The Pete Quiñones Show - Pete's Twitter Space on the Arrest of Pavel Durov w/ Zman

Episode Date: August 25, 2024

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So this is what we know about Duraugh right now. According to TF1, which is the French television network, he faced a warrant in France based on a preliminary police investigation. The French authorities reportedly claim that telegrams lack of content moderation and unwillingness to cooperate with law enforcement made Derov and accomplished to drug trafficking, money laundering, and the sharing of child pornography, yada, yada, yada, yada. We know why this is happening, right?

It's happening because the West is under occupation and has been for 80 years. It's that simple. It doesn't get any more difficult than that. So the, let me see if I can, let me see if I invite someone here, possibly. All right. So we know that we've been under occupation. We know that if you're not doing it for them,

then you're, you're an outsider. if you're doing any of these things that he's accused of for them, you're just, you know, they're your patron. So what does he have to do? Okay, he's left Russia. Apparently he's become a citizen of the UAE or at least a legal resident of the UAE. There's only one thing he can do.

He has to go back. He has to call Putin. and make amends. Russia is the only one that is standing up against these fuckers. And anyone who's commenting on this

who sees it as anything other than a... I'm trying to invite someone else here. Anyone who's commenting on this who sees this as anything other than the Nuremberg regime

and the fact that we've been under occupation for 80 years is they're just out of the game. They don't know what's going on. Putin, you say what you want about Putin. I see people post pictures of Putin with rabbis all the time. He's not even playing a game when he does that. He's in charge there, okay? He's the only one who can pull him out of this. he needs to go back and he needs to make, he needs to make what good with Putin.

Putin is the one, Putin is the guy who can bring him, who can bring him home, can get him out of this. Anyone who thinks, anyone who thinks otherwise than this is just, I don't know what they're thinking. I mean, this, okay, sure. going to say, I mean, Elon can't travel out of the, out of the country now. Yeah, I mean, that definitely makes sense, but understand what's happening and understand the one person who can fight for him, and that's Putin. And I know they have a history. I know that he's accused Putin of things before, and I know that's why he lives in the UAE. But come on.

It's the only way. It's the only way. It doesn't help that he's Russian. We know that. It doesn't help that he's, you know, somebody who doesn't appear to be a part of this whole, you know, this whole cabal. He just, it's, that's all this is.

I mean, anybody who would like to step up and speak, you know, you can let me know. I'm trying to invite Zeman in here to see what he thinks. I don't know if he even has the ability to speak right now. But I think that when you examine these situations, a situation like this is very simple. he's a guy who created something that apparently they wanted a backdoor into they tried to they've tried to bribe engineers to get backdoors into it and they haven't been able to get a back door into it I assume they probably have a back door into it I'm not one of these people who is a

who's Pollyanna about things like this but the one thing the one thing that we do know is that the one person who could pull him, who could potentially pull him out of this would be Putin. Now, I don't know that Putin can get him all the way out of it, but, you know, I mean, having Putin fighting for you is, I mean, I'd rather have Putin fighting for me than Joe Biden.

when Putin trades for something, he gets the better part of the trade. I mean, it's nonsense to believe that this is, that anyone other than Putin would be the one you'd want to call on this. So, I mean, that's really all. The more I look at it, so if I pull this up, if we want to look at what he and Putin have a fall. out over. Let me pull this up so you can see what they would have to, what they would have to mend fences about. So I'm looking for this here.

On 21st October 2014, Duroff was dismissed as CEO of EK. Company claimed it was acting on his letter of resignation a month earlier that he failed to recall. Dharov then claimed the company had been effectively taken over by Vladimir Putin's allies. suggesting his ouster was the result of both his refusal to hand over personal details of users to federal law enforcement and his refusal to hand over the personal details of people who were members of a VK group dedicated to the Euro-Maidan protest movement. Dharov then left Russia and stated that he has no plans to go back and that the country is incompatible with internet business at the moment. Okay, well, that's great. but we make amends make omens make omens buy your way back in you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you even before you drive the new cooper plug-in hybrid range

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I think, I posted this up a little early. earlier is that I think the French grabbed this guy because they want to use them as a bargaining chip for something. I don't think it probably, I mean, this is just a pretense, you know, the telegram being used for criminal activity or something like that. The French have a very weird relationship with the Russians. It goes back a long way. It goes back to Napoleon.

And, you know, the Macron has been making all kinds of weird noises for a year. really. And, you know, the Russians decided to not talk to him anymore because, you know, they figured out that all the decisions are made in Washington, so why talk to Flunkies like Macron or Schultz in Germany or really anyone else? So, you know, he took that personally, he got offended. But there was rumors back when the Russians laid siege to Mariupil and they had all these guys bottled up in the Azavsal steel plant, this huge, just massive facility. I mean, it had seven, underground stories, you know, four or five stories high, you know, just enormous facility. And they had all these guys bottled up.

And the Ukrainians, with help from Europeans, made all these daring efforts to try and rescue people in this facility. And there was, I think, all total was a few hundred guys. And it was mostly Azov guys. But there were rumors then. And I remember reading on Ukrainian channels that there was French officers there in that facility that got caught up in there. And it was a whole bunch of rumors about it.

And then it went away. And then when the Russians released who, you know, they finally captured these guys and they sent the Azov guys over to Turkey and the whole story kind of disappeared. And you know, it just went away. But then the French started making noises about

putting troops in. That was six months ago or something like that. And the Russians blew up a facility, a French facility in Ukraine full of, supposedly full of French foreign Legion, but no one was really sure. You know, the Germans admitted that French have, you know, contractors and

officers there. So my hunch is, is what's happened somewhere along in this war is the Russians got their hands on some guys, French people, who are contractors, spies, something, you know, Merks, you know, people important enough where the French government

want to try and get them back. And so, hey, you snatch a Russian guy and say, you know what, now we got a guy we can trade. Because you saw what happened. The Russians got some important guys back. They got the arms dealer back. They got, oh, what the heck was the other guy? The spy.

I mean, they got some important people back. And what did they do? I mean, they grabbed the big lesbian basketball player and they got their arms dealer back. I mean, the French probably think the same thing. That's my hunch that that's what's up to. Because I just can't imagine that we'd go after this guy just for the fact

that telegram might be used for something shady. It just seems stupid, especially since he is a Russian national. Now, it's possible. There's lots of idiotic decisions being made in the West all the time, so it wouldn't surprise me. But my hunch is this has something to do with something like that. There's something going on here because there's a lot of desperate things going on around this whole Ukraine war.

There's a lot of weird stuff happening. So that's my two cents. That's my bit of conspiracy theory. One of the things I see here, I was on his Wikipedia earlier, And I don't remember seeing this, but I don't think it was put in just in the last couple minutes. Well, it may have been because they have the arrest in here, but it mentions that he was naturalized. It says Duraev was naturalized as French in October 2021 and now has European Union citizenship. And then they add in in August 2024.

But I read this like a half hour ago, and here's my conspiracy. conspiracy theory. I didn't read that he was naturalized as quote unquote French in August 2020. August 2021. It talked about how he's an expat in the UAE. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, this thing is so bizarre. Why would this guy be stopping in Paris to fuel up? I mean, he has to understand. I mean, he's a sophisticated guy. He has to understand what's going on in the world. If you're a Russian of any status, all, even if you're on the outfit Putin. I mean, unless you're working for a Western government, you know, you got to know there's a target on you. I mean, not only for, you know, kidnapping like this, but to just get murdered. You know, just kill you.

So you would think it would be much more careful, but, you know, it's an odd thing. The thing I don't understand is everyone knows that, like, Putin is the master, the master at these moves where he um people want to think that he they think they're going to get the better of him in like a trade of some sort and i mean if he's on the ass with Putin then you know like i said earlier he needs to make up with Putin really fast and yeah i mean that's his only his only option i mean is you know he Putin's one of the only people in the world who is successfully fighting, you know, Western global homo. So what would they expect from Putin?

I mean, they're not, Putin's not going to trade. Putin's not going to give them. I mean, who could they ask for in, in exchange for some billionaire, some internet billionaire? Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, these guys are such blockheads. I mean, if you remember back in 2022, the British went out. after Abramovich, the Jewish oligarch, who's technically a Russian citizen, but he's been living in the UK, he owned one of the big soccer teams,

Man United or something like that. And, you know, they stripped him of the team, and they took a bunch of his money. They seized his yacht. And they, like, oh, we're going to stick it to Putin. Well, Putin hated this guy. Putin had to be sitting in the Kremlin laughing. Like, oh, great. I have a list of people you can go ahead and ruin.

You know what are these people thinking? But, you know, they have this weird, it's the damnedest thing with our rulers is that they've convinced themselves that, you know, that Russia is Mordor and Putin is that is the eye of Soron. And, you know, it's just all bad. And anything associated with it is bad. You know, so if it's Russian, it has to be on the bad guys team. They just can't think any more. There's no sophistication at all. There's no nuance to their view of things.

You know, I mean, normal people like this, like us, understand that this telegram guy, he's on a little shaky ground with the Russians because, you know, he's a bit of a zealot when it comes to, you know, a free speech. And look, you know, the telegram is full of Ukrainians. Most of the information I get about the damn war comes off of Ukrainian telegram channels. So, you know, it's not as if this guy is, you know, a Russian patriot or a zealot. But they can't see that. They just see he's a rich Russian guy and he boo, Russia bad, and they snatch him.

And I think that's probably as far as it goes. Or there's some, you know, who knows? I mean, it could be completely true. Maybe this guy is into some sort of shady stuff. Maybe he hangs out with the Tate brothers. You know, I doubt it, but you never know. So you think that there's any chance that this is a warning to Elon? Yeah, you know, that's funny.

I was thinking the other day about, I'm surprised that somebody hasn't made a move on Musk yet, because I have a feeling he's fairly naive about his security. And I mean, Trump was fairly naive about his security, too. You know, I mean, if I were, if I, you know, I guess I'm just a paranoid guy, but if I was in, if I was in his entourage, I would have been, I would have taken more precautions than these guys are taken. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of surprised they haven't come after Musk a little tougher. And, you know, because they have, you know, they've got the regulators on them. but you know

when you have billions and billions of dollars you can buy a lot of friends so but you know I don't know I'm not really sure how to read this because my suspicion is is that this has nothing to do with speech and has everything to do with France its view

of itself vis-a-vis the Russians or some the Russians got some important guy they want to trade or something like that I mean that's my hunch right now but I mean hey who knows I mean in Britain, they just put another guy in jail for waving the British flag. He was walking around and waving the British flag to put him in jail because he's those who walked past the mosque.

I mean, it's getting crazy over there. Well, what's interesting is Charles Haywood was talking about the, he was in his review of the book that came out about Elon last year. He mentioned that he thought that if things got worse and by worse, I would assume that we have a Kamala Harris presidency. And Trump is out of the way that Elon would probably have to resort to. If he wants to keep doing the things he does, he'd probably have to resort to building his own private military. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of that going on.

That's not outside the realm of possibility. Eric Prince is back on the scene talking a lot, you know, talking a lot about security and in other countries. I mean, it's just a matter of time before it comes home to here. It already has. I, you know, the private militias, private armies, we're already seeing it. I know a guy in my readership is in that world. And he actually had done work. If I told you the person's name, you know, it would, you would know who it is. And basically he says, look, this is, we're same contractor, same guys that get sent to Iraq, it gets sent to, you know, these various outposts to do private security work.

you know, for the government, contractor work, because it's a mix of military guys, intelligence guys, CIA guys, any guys who got field experience out there doing security, whether it's military or intelligence. They're getting plenty of work because there's lots of rich guys now who are willing to hire these companies and provide them security. And, you know, these guys are living like warlords now. And a lot of them, you know, they've got armed men all around their compounds.

And, you know, they're not doing that because they feel as if they're in a high trust society. I think they all understand that they can't trust the rest of the billionaires. You know, there's going to come a point in which they're going to start warring with each other, start sending assassins to each other. I mean, look, I'm actually all for that. I hope they all start doing that because the revolution comes then. But, you know, it's already happening. And it's going to become even more grotesque, I think, at some point in the near future.

Because, you know, when Trump got shot, I think that really woke up. I mean, I think that really terrified a lot of important people. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's all headed here right now. And, you know, for a guy like Musk, you know, he has to, I mean, it's weird in a way because he often seems rather quite naive about how the world works. So, you know, but on the other hand, you know, he could be getting radicalized pretty fast, too. I mean, look, that's what happened with Trump. It happened with Robert F. Kennedy.

I think Robert F. Kennedy came into this election race with one mindset, and he, He came out the other end, a radicalized guy. You know, he's a different guy just for, you know, going through the process. And it may be happening with Musk, too. Did you know, those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about? They're right here at Beacon South Quarter. That designer's sofa you've been wanting. It's in Seoul, Boe Concept and Rocheburoix.

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Oh, okay, good. Well, what do you think about the fact that, here would be my question. When you see stuff like this happening and they're targeting certain people, if Trump gets elected, he's, you know, president-elect, does he build his own security force, his own team? Does he, I mean, at this point, I think he almost has to, because I think if he gets elected,

if we know on election that it's Trump, I think we see not only violence, but I think we could see the actual regime violence to try to get him to stop, to try to keep him out. You know, it's funny. One part of me says that they're kind of running out of steam. But then the other day, I see Pelosi screaming and hollering, you know,

using this phrase, any means necessary. You know, whatever we have to do to stop Trump. And look, that kind of rhetoric is the kind, it's designed to trigger lunatics. It's designed to get people upset. It's designed to get people who are in positions to, you know, do important things to think, you know, why, maybe you're right. do have to act. And, you know, because look, I've said that the shenanigans in the 2020 election was largely a result of thousands and thousands of people hearing this rhetoric about

we have to do something and whatever it is, we have to do it. It's simply acting on it, you know, coming up with their own schemes to stuff ballot boxes and all the other stuff. And, you know, it doesn't really take that much to change an election. A few thousand votes in a lot of places. So I think, I think, yeah, I mean, I do, it's crazy, though. the part I struggle with, to be honest, is that as a normal well-adjusted person, Trump would be so easy to disarm just with a little flattery. If the regime simply welcomed him in and said, you know what, we had our difficulties, but you won fair and square, and we'll meet you halfway.

He would go along with a lot of stuff they want and put his stamp of approval on it. So I struggle with that reality, that he would do that. And yet at the same time, these people could be so stupid as to wage war on him. him and actually try and set off a civil war of sorts in the country. You know, my rational brain says they can't be that dumb. But, you know, every time I say that, they turn out to be that dumb. You know, it's interesting. You said that where you could just take him down with flattery.

The best argument I ever heard that Oswald was the lone shooter is that there was so much that they had that they could blackmail J.F.K. on why did they need to kill him? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good argument. I've always thought that Mossad killed Kennedy. They had to, I mean, look, let's face it, JFK did not like Israel very much. His father was a real big fan of Hitler. I think the reason that it's never been released is that everybody, if they were released

all the rest of the details, everyone all know that it was the Israelis. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess the only thing left to, you know, on this, on this Deraa, thing is, you know, just, I guess we're just waiting to find out what the real intention is. When you hear, when they finally, and it probably won't happen until Monday, like read charges or something like that, or release him on his own recognizance as with the charges, something like that. What, you know, what are they? I think then you can, I mean, if they're what is being said like, you know, supporting child child pornography and things like that, then they're going for, they're going for the throat. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.

All I can say is he needs to get on the phone with Putin, have a nice long discussion, talk about how, you know, how much they have in common, and how he's made some mistakes in the past. And, yeah, what are you going to do here? What are we going to do here? Yeah, you know, up to this point, and I have to say, I've always been. I mean, look, I'm a ethnic Slav. I'm an ethnic Russian, you know. So, you know, I have somewhat of a bias here.

But I've always, you know, the Russians are always really dumb until they need to be really smart. You know, it's a weird history with the Russians. They can do amazingly boneheaded things, but then somehow or other, when they have to, they get smart and then things start to turn the other direction. And throughout this whole thing, I keep, you know, when it was originally going on,

I think, man, the Russians really are not playing this right. And they weren't. They made a lot of mistakes. They got themselves into a war. I don't think they wanted. But they turned this around. And what they have been doing to the West is really, it's, it's, it's Bismarck level diplomacy.

They brought the Chinese on side. They're bringing the Indians on side. I mean, these are two enormous economies. They're bringing, you know, the global south with all its down. natural resources that the Chinese want to exploit, the Indians want to exploit. They're bringing these people on their side. And what are they doing? They're doing it through restraint in a lot of ways.

I mean, they could be carpet bombing in Kiev and Leviv, and they could be doing a lot, they could get a lot rougher than they are. But they've been extremely careful about this stuff. And they keep avoiding provocation. So when they, you know, new weapons get sent in, there's curse concurion or a terrorist attack. And everybody knew that the terrorist attack in Moscow, everybody understands that that was sponsored most likely by the British. that they're the ones behind it or Washington,

but a combination of the two. They keep holding back, holding back. And I think it's making the West crazy. I think it's making, you know, because all these guys just assume, because the way that they think about things is so narrative-driven. They come up with the story,

and then they say, all right, we'll set off this narrative, I do the first move, and they just expect that to happen. They never have a plan B. They never think beyond the first move. And of course, the scenario doesn't happen.

You know, the miracle weapons never turn out to be a miracle. Trump did it now. He's definitely did it now. And it turns out he didn't. Oh, you know, the lawsuits, this will do this or this will do this to Putin. You know, they keep doing this over and over and they can't get what they want because the world doesn't seem to work or seem to want to comply with their fantasy. And so they're getting nuttier and nuttier. And that's what got to be thinking about this whole thing with Doro of is that it just, it seems. like a desperate move. Hey, we're going to

snatch this guy and we're going to basically use him as a hostage. Come in me, look, hostage taking is a long tradition in the world. You know, that's just the way it was. You know, you grab a hostage and you auction them back off. So I think there's something like that to this. And I could be proven

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So that's a little way. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, who knows if it's true. I mean, that's one of the really weird things about this age is that the only thing we can be sure is whatever comes out of official outlets, that's not the truth. You know, it's some, it might be close. It might be some different version of it, but I call it regimeology. You know, it's like the old days when, you know, the Kremlin would, you know, their organs would put out certain stories and people would spend, you know, weeks trying to figure out what it really meant. You know, they'd look at comparing photos and, you know, different styles and stuff to try and figure out what's going on behind the scenes. We have to do the same damn thing with our own government because these people lie so much.

You can't believe anything they say at this point. And which is sad because, you know, look, this could literally be all this to it. This could be something, some bonehead decision to say, well, you know, there's, this. content we don't like he's not doing anything about it so we're going to we're going to push him around a little bit that could be true or it could be something more nefarious and

you know what the lesson I learned out of the Bush years is I kept saying to myself there's no way these guys can be this crazy and this stupid and yet they were they were this crazy they were crazier and they were dumber than they appeared

to be and I kept I keep telling myself I keep reminding myself don't allow your normalcy, don't allow your sensibility to cloud your judgment about these these lunatics because they are capable of anything. Well, until we have more information,

you know, what they're going to allow to come out, all the rest of this would just be mental masturbation and speculation. So thanks for stepping by, Chris, and thanks for everybody for joining in. Tune into my live stream tomorrow at 4 Eastern YouTube. It should be live on X as well. Thanks for us. Take care. Take care, everybody. Good night.

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