The Pete Quiñones Show - Pony Express Radio - 03/19/26 - The Irish Question - w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

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So be sure to check out Tallman Books for all of your historical book needs. All right, gentlemen. Well, as mentioned, it was St. Patrick's Day this week. But we're here to talk about the Irish influence in America from the very beginning. One of the things that I wanted to contribute to this conversation is the Irish have always been trotted out as to be like, for some reason, you know, whenever we were in high school, whenever we were in college, this is always something that was rammed down our throats all the time about when they were trying to shove all the diversity nonsense in us. throughout the 2010s. You know, it's like, oh, well, you know, all these other groups, you know, whether it's blacks, browns, what have you, were treated just like the Irish.

Because when the Irish came to America, they were treated like shit. So you white people, yada, yada, yada, yada. You know, it always seems like the Irish have always been the low man on the total pole whipping boy as it relates to the concept of white race as in the American context. So, I don't know, Thomas, why don't you just, you know, take us away here, you know, about the first ways of Irish immigration into the United States. And how were they actually treated when they first arrived in America? Well, there's a few things contributing to that narrative.

There's a whole pastiche of factors, some of which are grounded in a rather tragic history, some of which owes the grievances based on sectarian hostility, which in America until recently was a very serious thing. and some of it too is you know the as the Nureberg system was implemented in earnest and these

Cold War social engineering imperatives became the top priority of the regime that's part of it too is finding a white ethnic group to say oh see you know these

people aren't you know black or brown but they were similar with oppressed by the same mechanisms. So it's all those things. I like the Irish a lot. I mean, once as a

kid, I kind of am Irish, you know, admittedly of the Protestant side, confessionally and culturally. And Chicago still has a very large Irish presence, kind of an

outsized presence. I mean, you go to places like Beverly or Bridgeport. There's those you know those are Irish communities and you know the South Side parade remains a big deal here and um we still get Irish immigration

you run into Irish guys and girls from the old country here you know I mean Chicago still has European immigration and not just from the old East block you know it's what Chicago is sort of an unusual place in various regards but

the first slaves in America were white I'm not talking about adventure disturbance I mean slaves. Thomas Salagoner this. So did it of all people, Jim Goad. He was kind of a silly guy, but he used to be a bit more serious. And

one of the things that put the book White Cargo on the map, which is a really great book, was Jim Goad cited it in one of his polemical texts that sold reasonably well.

And quite literally the first slaves who set foot on American soil were a couple hundred white children. And it's believed they were a combination of orphans from what was viewed as problematic classes. You know, this was after the first poor laws were passed, I believe. And, you know, a lot of children, as well as a lot of people who were considered to be constitutional incorrigibles, you know, prostitutes, people who were consistently homeless or without gainful employment, they'd find themselves in the colonies. And some people were just swept up

because they were young men with a strong back, you know, who were obviously needed. They do backbreaking labor, and they didn't have anybody to advocate for them. So they were simply Shanghai, but most of those people were ethnically Irish. So there probably was, it's difficult

you can come up with data on the raw numbers of white slaves from the 17th century until the time the practice basically ceased. But obviously it's difficult to conclude determine what these people's ethnic group was.

You can go by last names, obviously, but, you know, in some cases this can be discerned from the documentary record. In some cases, it can't. But it can be reasonably inferred that there was probably an outsized percentage of ethnically Irish people among these white slaves. Okay. And there was always bad blood across the sectarian. divide because a lot of the founding stock of America I'm talking about the

Yale men I'm not talking about rich men I'm not talking about men who had the benefit of a charter company contracts from the crown I'm talking about the yeo menary that built you know the South specifically but also had a discernibly outsized impact on North A lot of these people were Ulster Scots, whose conceptual horizon derived from the experience of the Ulster plantation, which in terms of its brutality was not unlike the experience people had in the frontier, you know, contra the Cheyenne. It was incredibly brutal. some of these early

ulster plantation sites they were walled in like fortresses almost because the understanding was that the indigenous element is going to assault and try to murder everybody and to be fair not without cause the the Scottish settler conquerors

are not particularly kind of these people you know so sort of baked in to the early American experience was a hostility across the sectarian divide. And then you add to that the Anglo-Saxon mythology of America. We talked with this a few weeks ago in Pete's pod. You know, this mythology of America, and you find this specifically stated, explicitly stated in the Federalist Papers,

particularly John Jay and Hamilton emphasize this. You know, the myth being, or the mythology being, we're in Anglesexan people, we're a Germanic race. We were subjugated by this corrupt monarchy that was essentially Latin in culture and race, and they imposed this unnatural Roman order on us. So we're reclaiming our birthright as it existed when, you know, Britain was an

Anglesaxon land. And, you know, we're the chosen people to realize that destiny, and here we are in this, you know, land of Providence's great bounty.

You know, and I don't need to point out the concrete particulars for people understand that that's a base of a profoundly anti-Catholic narrative. that's part of the early American identity is being anti-Catholic you know and that's why something's that's really interesting to me and it shows the conceptual illiteracy of the left you know the

the clan at its peak I'm talking the 1920s clan the post birth of a nation clan they were a sectarian organization like don't be wrong I mean they they believe the races should separately and they didn't believe in miscegenation obviously but this idea that they were obsessed with keeping blacks in line or something that wasn't what they were into they were a sectarian organization first last and always you know america must remain a protestant land and more specifically a dissenter protestant culture you know and um interestingly And again, this cuts to the historical illiteracy of the left. Trump's father was arrested for a fray sometime in the 1930s.

And basically what had happened is Trump's dad was this Protestant Dutch type, who was a builder and a leader. landlord in a New York City and he's getting leaned on by a bunch of Irish police who were doing muscle work for you know Irish labor concerns

so old man Trump calls in some clan support and they fight it out you know and presumably the right palms are greased and the case went away with a

you know a imperatively minor citation for a fray, but it shows you you the other left has no idea of the history of this country, even stuff that's almost within living memory. Otherwise, they would have made a huge deal about that.

But they just, they don't understand the actual conflict diets in America between populations. You know, and but that wasn't odd. You know, that situation Trump's father was in apparently.

Is sectarianism you know my my um my mom who was born immediately after war two she wasn't a bigot

she'd be she'd be nice to all kinds of people but I mean she'd casually say unfattering things about Catholics you know Kennedy being elected was a huge deal and uh it was a hell of a lot more significant

than some nobody like Obama being elected, for example, because there was no context to Obama being elected. An Irish Catholic, like Kennedy, from the East Coast, with deep roots and you know,

not just the not not just the East Coast establishment, but also the, you know, with his hands in Boston machine politics and stuff. You know, that

that would have been on even 20 years previously you know so that's um this kind of pastisha thing sort of conspired to create the you know oh and if in america up until the 1920s or 30s you know people would say that you know no N-words or irish woke on this premises it becomes ridiculous it becomes this this apocryphal victim story but it it does the emerge from real tensions and even you know again, I think Irish people are great, and the insular Celts are, are, um, that there's something of a standard bearer of the Aryan race, I think, okay? They're just incredible people.

So I'm not saying mean things about them, but they do have something of an inferiority complex, I think. And maybe that's changing. I don't know. when I was a kid and a teenager, when unfortunately the troubles were raging in Northern Ireland, you'd disembark at Union Station, and there'd be college-age guys and girls trying to hand you literature, you know, saying, you know, the British are genociting Ireland, you know, and Brits out of Ireland. And this was something people are very passionate about.

you know and being kind of like a redneckish prod with very anglophone parents that made an impression on me you know maybe more than it would have other kids

but that's no go ahead yeah it's it's interesting on that because at least when I was growing up yeah it's like what again like with this

you know diversity nonsense and some growing up and everything, but it always seemed like the, uh, the only basically, um, white group that you were allowed to say like, oh,

I've got some ancestry part of this. Like everybody always wanted to be, uh, saying like, oh, I have a little bit of Irish in me or some Irish ancestry, uh, in me or something like that.

It was like the same thing as well. Everyone was trying to get like, uh, claim that they were part Native American or something. Yeah. Oh yeah, I got like some indian blooded me. But nobody was ever clamoring to say,

oh, like I've got French in me or I've got some English or, you know something like that was always oh like well i'm a little bit irish and maybe that is true i mean i know a lot of people have like irish admixture um especially if you're you know ellis island coalition or you know family come from like new york or something like that but yeah it's interesting that i posted my i posted my 23 and me up and it's interesting because uh i'm actually like overwhelmingly like anglo-irish and uh i've also got um um You know, I'm basically, I'm a Huguenot, I'm Huguenot, Ulster, Irish, and I'm German.

And my German granny was of the Ostpruce kind. So people will claim I'm Polish, or they'll claim that I'm a, or they'll claim that I'm like a petty N-word. which is funny uh you know it's how to look at nature thomas you you mentioned kennedy yeah and his connections on the east coast um i would assume he had some pretty good connections back in the aisles considering joe was you know ambassador to to great britain oh yeah tremendously and even you know uh that old show it's i mean it's it's it's a pretty good show but i mean it's it's hokey gangster Tommy gun stuff, but, you know,

Bordewock Empire, I'm going somewhere with this. You ever watch Bordewark Empire? Yeah, very good show. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was a good show. Nucky Thompson, despite his very Protestant name, in the show, he's this Irish-American guy,

and he gets hold of a bunch of Thompson's that were slated for the Western Front, but of course, you know, the war ended. so he gets hold of him and he gets him to the to the IRA because that's something he you know he's making sure there's a a line of weapons and and and money going over there and that was a real thing um the reason why the reason why the provos the provos had armolites basically as soon as the us already got them that's why ironically you know and a lot of loyalist

murals uh it's massed gunmen with klaschnikovs and the provo's always holding armolites you'd think it would be the opposite but it's because the on the loyalist side there was it they always had trouble getting getting weapons you know so it was sort of this hodgepodge of different um platforms but the provos had they had armalites in the 60s you know um and that's because they had a lot of uh a lot of people here pulling for them and you know a lot of those people had money um

you know so I undoubtedly uh that's a total other story like Roosevelt um Roosevelt wanted to both antagonize the British and antagonized Joe Kennedy that's why he posted him to the UK and as I

think I mentioned in our World War II series Joe Kennedy was convinced Churchill might try to murder him owing to the fact that you know Kennedy was a solid opponent of the new dealers and he was absolutely opposed to making war on Germany, as was the Irish Republic. People conveniently forget that, you know. But yeah, I don't, I don't think the Jews have forgotten that. Well, no, but I'm talking about like Normie stories and stuff. Like they got, you know,

no, of course not. There's tremendous enmity there. I mean, that's why there is Ireland's been targeted for destruction in very discreet ways, as has the Russian Federation and Dural Islam. You know, there's, there's a particular animus there above and beyond the social engineering regime that is, you know, there's intended to be imposed on this entire planet. But, yeah, I'm sure I'm sure Joe Kennedy and, and as well, as JFK and his brothers had substantial contacts in the old country, that without doubt. You know what other TV show tried to shoehorn in? They actually tried to shoehorn in a northern Ireland,

like arc of a bunch of episodes, was Sons of Anarchy. That show is so unbelievably stupid. Like it, okay, it's like, I mean, for people who haven't seen this show, I thought it was a satire. Like I literally did. It's about this,

It's about this anti-racist liberal biker gang that gets mad about racism. And they name their gang after a Jewish feminist because they sit around reading Emma Goldman. And their ops are guys who try and get people into racism. It's like imagine, like imagine some like mentally defective Walmart Normie who like thinks he's Billy badass. But he also spends all day watching Rachel Maddow. like this is like this is like the infantile fantasy he like masturbates over it's like pc principle stuff but of the most infantile variety like you can't make this up and there's all these uh there's all these white in words like that's a great show something of energy it's

like bro anti-racist bikers really man really so it figures it figures uh it figures some like small hit writer would be like yeah and then and then there's northern island and then the bakers decide that they got to feed children in africa like anybody um if i ever i mean i'm pretty discriminating in the company i keep and i don't hang out with them cool people but uh if i'm forced into a situation like at some at some party or something or you know somebody's wife's birthday And some idiot sitel who sidled up to my table says he watches that show. I, like, refuse to speak to him. You know, you might as well say that like you suck a dick or something.

It's like, how could you possibly watch that garbage? But it, the other thing worse is people like the Sopranos. And like, that show is so fucking stupid. It's just like embarrassing. And it, I don't know. I mean, I, you know, like I said, I want people like I'm this big snob. It's not going to only sit around watching, you know, the prisoner or the original Alfred Ofricer Presents or something.

You know, I watch, I watch some junk food for the brain type shows, too. You know, like I said, I like, I like Boardwalk Empire. And, you know, I, what was it? You know, I, I'm not, I'm not saying that people shouldn't watch silly stuff, too. But if you, if you watch that kind of like, I find this. I find something particularly offensive and gay about this like PC principle kind of stuff, especially when it's coded for like really, really, really stupid people. I just do. I don't know. It's, it's cringy, man. It's so like, um,

it's in decent or something, like laughing at like a boardwalk empire. Boardwalk empire was also pretty good for showing the, um, the Jewish connection to, uh, to the Italian. It showed the tension, too, between them and the black folks, and I liked the subplot or the narrative arc of the guy played by Michael Pitt, who he's this disturbed World War I vet. And he carries around his Mark 7 trench knife, which is a ruthless knife. That's the coolest comment knife of all time. and it's clear there's only a very brief scene

where they show his experiences in the trenches and he clicks up with this guy he's rapy, this sniper who got shot in the face so he's horribly disfigured and he's got just this metal plate he looks almost like a Phantom of the Opera and so he's nod to that and the Juan Cheney

Phantom of the Opera is one of my very favorite movies but that that's not Hollywood if you stuff they they quite literally give you a a tin mask if you were maimed like that because obviously plastic surgery didn't really exist and you know in lieu of terrifying children or making people sick you you know you're done a mask and i've got sort of i'm not sort of i've got a fascination for world war one and there's something just incredibly horrific about it but also just fascinating

and that's when that's when modern warfare truly arrived in my opinion I mean arguably it was the Crimea the war between the states and the World War I was a game changer

across the entire spectrum but I that era too I mean obviously my my favorite decade is 1950s that you go out saying but I think the 19 teens the 1920s are sort of

are just sort of cool you know the optics and everything like that and I when I was stuck at the airport you know that's an opportunity for one's mind to wander and you kind of play a great many things prosaic and profound

but I heard of this fascination for airship travel, especially because I came across years ago, there was this GeoCities site that documented one of these, like all the, all the literature, promotion literature and everything else, like magazine spreads of the flight company or the carrier that the Hindenberg was part of. and it's just amazing and there was this luxurious dining room with obviously a picture of the furor on the wall and uh you know it was like something out of it's like something out of uh science fantasy or something you know just like floating on this airship it's almost like an alternative uh future you know or something um so when i was when i was straight at the airport i was like man i i wish i could float on an airship and not be dealing with this airport nonsense but you know air travel just used to be so much more interesting than it is today around as a little kid it was cool man you'd get they actually had good food you could they did give you like an actual meal um and they'd give you one or two options

they'd give you these eagle honey roasted peanuts they were a staple so much that colloquially people called them airline peanuts and they'd yeah, they'd make sure your drinks were fresh and stuff. And it was actually, like, I never, flying always kind of made me uncomfortable, even when I was a kid, but it was mitigated by the fact that it was, it was cool.

And now it's anything about cool, but I forgive the, forgive the random tangent about airships, but I, there's something just fascinating about that whole era. I mean, even more so, I guess if you were to pop up, posited in Chicago or Manhattan in in in

in 299 it would seem like you were on some alien civilization way more than if you found yourself in a different epoch I think because the trajectory of technology and everything else it just seems so different and so much of that technology and being a dead end and new modalities were configured that replaced them well you can understand you can understand why when you look at media of the time, like old, like Looney Tunes cartoons or something

where they try to predict what the future is going to look like, and it's just not really even remotely close to how it actually turned out. It's like they're thinking all what the future would be. No, it's fascinating. It's also, well, that's why the spruce goose, I guess you could say that some of these massive, like some of these massive aircraft,

like the C-Fide Galaxy were in part, like the DNA of the Spruse, Bruce Goose was in part in them, but it's the way Howard Hughes, and he had a better sense than a lot of these, a lot of these integrate innovators did, but he believed that essentially maritime commerce and naval warfare was just going to disappear because everything was going to be take to the sky. You know, and his one of his later drawings was of this massive, like basically a flying aircraft carrier, some utterly massive, aircraft and there were a dozen like air superiority fighters

that would disembark from these platforms on its wings and you know obviously that had some sort of nuclear capability nuclear cannons on it and stuff I mean it's something some like insane kid would come up with but it's like okay like to your point within that paradigm

it's like yeah that makes sense people thinking like oh no the ocean is going to be in the sky now and you know it's yeah it's really It's really interesting. But yeah, forgive me, we were supposed to be talking with the Irish. And I didn't mean to find this over to like a conversation. Yeah, exactly.

Well, I mean, we kind of alluded to this topic a little bit earlier in the discussion. But you hear this term get thrown around quite a bit, even to this day, about the various demographics that came and make up America and specifically the South. Thomas, can you explain to us the origins of the Scots-Irish? Yeah, well, as I said, the... Northern Ireland has a very complicated history and very deep heritage. You know, the Ulster cycle is something I highly recommend Anglophone people. You know, along with Arthurian lore and the King James Bible, that's sort of the cultural canon. So there's a significance to Northern Ireland beyond the sectarian.

divide and some of the more tragic aspects of its history you know there's a a lot of the the root if you want to think of it as a lot of the founding populations of Ireland and

the British Isles have at least partial origins there but we're talking about the Scots Irish or the Ulster Scots there was always Ireland essentially proved to be unconquerable, okay, owing to a number of reasons, including the fact that this hostile island, quite literally on Britain's flank, that was loyal to Rome, represented an existential threat, you know, particularly in eras when sea power was everything. you know there was there was it was imperative to dominate it and also there's just very little arable land in britain i mean britain's a rocky island you know it's the same it's the same

quagmire you know that the japanese have always had to endure i mean obviously uh britain's not volcanic like the japanese home islands are but you know uh the solution, as it were, to the problem that the English crown had was to deploy this colonizer Yeoman population in the form of the Scots to the Ulster, what was to become the Ulster plantation. And despite what you see in movies like Braveheart, the Scots and the English, their relationship is complicated. I think of it in some ways it's almost the relationship of the English to the people became the Ulster Scots. It's almost like that between the Japanese and the Koreans. It's an imperfect analogy.

But, you know, this settler population was primarily Scottish dissenter Protestants, who were always sort of the shock element of what became the British Empire later on. They were a warrior yeomanry cast. And there also were some

ethnically English people who settled the ulcer plantation as well. But the majority were ethnically, culturally, and confessionally Scottish. And this touched off a a centuries-long

conflict paradigm. And the, but it's interesting, okay, because there's it seems an odd, it seems an odd example when it seems

highly discreet and anecdotal, but there's something significant here. The only loyalist paramilitary group that was never compromised by special branch was Red Hand Commando. Red Hand Commando would tag their murals in Gallic.

They were the only loyalists who did that. And there's this brand of esoteric loyalism that emphasizes deep insular Celtic racial and ethnic roots, which isn't wrong. You know, I mean, Scottish people, I mean,

the Lowland Scots are descended from Picts, in part from Vikings and Danes, and in part from, you know, Celts. So there's a complicated relationship, that the Ulster Scots have to Ireland. And also, you know, there's a reason why I talk about the sort of dissenter, prod,

diaspora, like, colloquially, the wood pile. By the way, too, some idiot the other days in the comments section that I'm a moron for using the term peckerwood because that's a prison term for the 1980s. No, it's not. It literally dates to the well before the war in the States. look it up. But aside from that, I talk about the woodpile the aspera

or a combination of the centers being programmed in France, in the Benelux countries you know, elsewhere on the continent. There was a lot of migration of Huguenots, of Dutch,

of Swiss of Germans to places like South Africa two places like Ulster where they'd be welcomed but you know not just because they were brothers and sisters in the faith

and who you know were welcome in the congregation but these populations needed people who could fight and weren't afraid of death and weren't afraid of violence so there's an interesting ethnic mix within

northern northern Ireland's Protestants and again the majority are Ulster Scots or Scottish they're overwhelmingly culturally Scottish I mean that's the dominant cultural modality but the

you know the the novel and the film Resurrection Man Pete and I actually reviewed it that's one of my favorite piece of conflict literature from the troubles what the secondary antagonist is this he's this loyalist

hitter named Darkie Larsh and he's a Huguenot and his street name is Darkie because he's a sloorthy French guy but that wasn't

that wasn't uncommon you know you'd there'd be loyalists with clearly anglified German names or Huguenot names you know, just like you find in South Africa,

just like you find in Australia, New Zealand. You know, and that's something, that very, very strong dissenter and outsider faith, frankly, was one of the things that bound these people together. And that's one of the reasons I think we're an ill-understood people, just dissenters generally, but Ulster Scots, especially. Because on the one hand, we're not, we don't act like Mediterranean people do, you know, for example. But we are clannish, but in sort of a different way than, you know, people think of Greek people or Italian people or even our Irish Catholic brothers are.

you know um it's an odd it's an odd sort of a it's an odd kind of individualism and hostility to organizational models of authority that that's coextant with the kind of deep clannishness you know and people don't really understand that i think that's uh i think that's other to where we're the favorite target of the accusation of being racist. I mean, it's like a meaningless term obviously, but on the one hand, people look at us as,

okay, you're the constant individuals and things and, you know, you kind of come at people as they are, but then in very punctuated and in speckious ways, you know, it's like we put our own first and that rubs a lot of people

the wrong way. I mean, not that we care, but I think that's part of it, you know? Yeah, for sure. What do you think, Pete? I mean, I'm, my dealings, I grew up around the Irish. I grew up in an Irish neighborhood in the Bronx that was transitioning out of Irish. There used to be huge clan in the Highbridge section around Yankee Stadium.

And they eventually started moving to the North Bronx. And just being around them, they, you know, I mean, I, you know, my first crush was on an Irish girl because, you know, that's, that's what was there. And I just thought they were, they were insanely clanish. I mean, they would, they were the kind of people who would fight with each other all day. And then if someone just looked at one of them wrong, they all just jumped. jumped it. They all just jump to. Definitely like the flight, fight, don't they? Yeah. Oh, oh, fight and drink is, uh, I mean, that is not a, uh, that is not a stereotype

at all. But, um, yeah, I also growing up in New York, I had some dealings with the NYPD. I know that must be a shocker to most people. Um, so I'm dealing mostly, you're dealing mostly with Irish cops. And, um, yeah, I mean, I, honestly, they were, there were some of the best friends I ever had in my whole life. And most, a lot of the guys I went to high school with, I can think of one in particular. I'm not going to name them who became NYPD and then went on to even bigger and better things in the NYPD. And they always treated me as, you know,

like, like a brother. So, yeah, I've never had, I joke about the, I make as many jokes about the Irish as anybody else does. but you know i also make jokes about polacks and i make jokes about everybody because i grew up in a

time where race jokes were just racial jokes were just what you what you threw at each other and you know until someone until someone got mad and started throwing hands but um yeah i mean growing up where i did and being around the irish um you you just couldn't help but notice what was the um uh the whole thing is um about like How close Italians think they are that they wish they were as close to Irish Italian brothers were as close to each other as Irish brothers are. I like the Irish. It's my birthright to make fun of the Irish.

Like, you know, so, you know, but I mean, I, I, no, I, I mean, and like I said, I mean, in, in a real sense, you know, like I am Irish, just not in the way that, you know, we mean, we're talking about. Irish Catholics. But yeah, I, you know, it's all, um, well, and I grew up mostly, the ones I grew up around were Irish Catholics. I mean, if you grew up, if you were in America, and that's what we're talking about. That's why I think great book called the other Irish. And, um, you know, it's about the Ulster Scots in America, you know, because like we're not, we're not Irish in that sense, you know, it's, right. Yeah, you were dragged away, dragged away. And, uh, thrown on an island.

Another island. Yeah, well, if you want to, if you want to foobar or target area and then colonize it, you drop the ulster scuts there. You know, if they can't,

if they can't drink it or fuck it, they'll kill it. Well, what was your, I know you've had, you've had some mild criticisms of Albion's seed. what is there anything in there about the ulster about ulster and the irish that uh yeah it's

it's been a few years since i read it that's one of those books i refer to periodically it's been it's been probably three or four years since i've read it in its entirety i mean it's mostly about it's mostly about anglophone dialects and cultural habits and conceptual horizons and how those broke down and then for a For a small country and a small ethnos, there's a lot of diversity in England, especially you consider that the Dane Lock literally cut a swat through it. You know, like I told you, like I ended up in a... When I lived outside in the cost wall, it's like a week, which was incredible when I was a young man.

And then after walking endlessly, we came across this ancient, village and it was a bunch of super tall people who looked like Rutger Hauer or something it was like a bunch of people looked like our friend Anders you know and uh it was and you know it's there's many there's not one England you know is what I'm getting at and Albion Seed that's the main thrust of it it's very much an ethnocultural an anthropological study of Anglo-America, I'm sure that there's some treatment of the Irish and particularly the Ulster Scots.

And, you know, especially, no, I mean, basically, too, the high church cast are going to look at it that way, people like Robert Lee and, you know, the Virginia Planner aristocracy. I mean, they were, they were, their background was Anglo-Latin, you know. Stonewall, one of the reasons he was beloved by the man, despite his severity, and the fact that he, you know,

he was a teetotaler, and he didn't get chummy with anybody, but, I mean, he was, he was one of their tribe. You know, he was an Ulster Scott, Calvinist through and through. But, yeah, I mean, LBNC's a great book, but it's not, it doesn't deal in any, choice of stance of capacity with the subject matter we're on. Yeah. One of those ones that I know is quite beloved in our circles,

but if people want to know more about that, they can listen to the early episodes of American spirits where they delven to Albuyan Seed. Why don't we go over the waves of Irish immigration into the United States? Because it's definitely been one of the more consistent ones throughout the last several hundred years. I mean, I know one of the ones that talked about in our circles quite a bit is the fact that Abraham Lincoln imported a bunch of them to go fight in the Civil War.

So, I mean, Irish should have been coming here for a long, long time. Oh, yeah, they're, and like I said, the, I mean, the point of the first slaves in America were white and substantially Irish. I mean, the Irish have been here as long as as any heritage Americans have been. And it's also, it becomes confused as well because at least, I'm not trying to be crass or something. The old school terms involved where you talk about the lace curtain Irish and the shanty Irish, because there really was a class divide, you know, and on the East Coast especially.

I mean, even, I haven't hung around Boston since the early 2000s, like the very early 2000s. And even then, you know, you had a real obvious caste divide that seemed weird for America, you know, but be as it may, there were upper class Irish men and women who blended in essentially seamlessly with the Anglophone elite

and nobody looked askance at them or viewed them as inferiors or somehow not white or something you know so there is and I mean to be fair if you're talking about European immigration Western European immigration that remains insular over generations here.

The genetic distance between aristocrats and commoners is substantial. They're almost a different ethnic group, you know, which you want to look at that way. And not just terms of habit and sometimes language, but even in terms of their biological and genetic. and genetic profile so there wasn't there wasn't a single there wasn't a single Irish America

you know I guess that's what I'm getting at and um the big it's not a simple vacation but it's illustrative I think because it it was such a breach with precedence

and you know the advent of the advent of of high-speed travel you know, by sea rail and what was then nascent air travel.

You know, the 20th century changed everything and that's why immigration got essentially cut off completely with the 1924 Act. And that endured for 40 years. so we're basically talking about and I'm not

I don't know the meaningful inputs on the top of my head and immigration patterns aren't one of my primary concentrations but you had consistent immigration from Ireland really from

just after the Westphalian peace really until the first decade of the 20th century and then it abruptly stopped for 40 years for practical purposes that's what the 965 Act was so it's fascinating if you read the

the legislative history and the minutes from a Congress in session where you've got these proponents of the bill, including the always retest Teddy Kennedy, insisting up and down that the then extant racial and ethnic balance isn't going to be upset because this bill is narrowly tailored to preserve the status quo and

in terms of overall percentage is represented of these different populations. If it trades a real naivete and a real perfidy, depending on who we're talking about. But that was, I mean, don't get me wrong, Kennedy, Teddy, I mean, was a particularly grotesque character. And he was as bad as any, you know, as any arch race trader today that, parasitically you know subsists off the taxpayers but a the the cold war the the fix was in because of the Cold War okay there there would have been the racial core of America would have been undermined by way of immigration policy manipulation to realize the intended effect

You know, that was, that something's kind of lost in the, I try to discuss these things with Normies. It's not fucking social media anymore. But it's just these people, they've got these just simpleton's ideas. Like, as if the, like, the, the 1965 generation of Form Act, it was like a tax bill or something. Like, oh, there should have been base people who said, no, we won't vote that way. So you don't get it.

Like, this was going to happen because what was that stake? What the conflict diet was, was, you know, between billions of people living under a hostile competitor system and the free world, as it was called. I mean, and that actually had a context back then. And the conflict diet was to determine the configuration of globalism. you can't win that struggle if you say this system is only for white people. I mean, obviously. That's why the critical juncture was, you know, the Second World War because that's obviously what facilitated the aforementioned conditions.

But this idea that, you know, it's liberals or like an absence of based people or something who just weren't there to stop bad legislation. It's incredibly infantile that people think that way. It's not to say that there wasn't a better way to manage that situation. Obviously, there was, and obviously attempts at forced integration at literal gunpoint. I mean, that's preposterous. That's an absurd iteration of, self-defeating tyranny that's as that's as ridiculous as anything the soviets did to their population

you know i mean that's what and and that's the future feel it's something i try and emphasize the people when they claim everything sucks everything is lost that you know i mean it's like do you realize how catastrophically this regime failed like we're literally going to point guns at children and teenagers to force them into proximity to each other then when black people don't act like we want them to we're going to lock a million of them in prison like that's some like great big wind view i mean this this could not have failed more catastrophically you know it is always a um a white pill when um you uh some of us younger guys um have um have conversations with people who've been in this thing longer than we have. And it's really important

to be put in that perspective of, oh, just, we just live in such interesting times compared to now where I could actually talk to people who have some understanding as to why the situation we're in right now has so many problems. And the fact that, like, the regime right now is just burning credibility at an unprecedented scale. Yeah, we've got our problems, obviously. But it is important to have that context and I think a lot of young people miss out on that if they don't have this kind of communication between the generations which was something that was just way more common for anyone else in any period in history but now because of you know just modernity this communication between generations is something you actually have to

proactively seek out no no it's affirmative and I mean don't get me wrong I I make the point of I mean I'm blessed that I mean I'm blessed that I'm not I'm saying like some sentimental slob but i'm blessed i have friends like you guys and the fellas i mean i really am that's incredible you know what i i feel really loved and i i can't emphasize that i know if i how um how great that is no humbling that is but um it uh i uh you know and i wouldn't want to be a young person for a billion dollars being young is really tough man it's i mean aside my physical health being poor i my life is a freaking cakewalk compared to when i was 19 or or 22 or something being young is really really really hard man and these days it's it's particularly screwed up

you know i realize that and especially young guys uh looking to start families and stuff i mean that's always a challenge, but there's peculiar challenges these days. I realize that, and I don't minimize that. But in the other hand, the fact that there's, yeah, there's literally millions of people who look at the regime as a hostile actor and matters are openly discussed that, you know, 25 or 30 years ago would be considered just an utterly unacceptable perspective that's incredible and also just at street level I you know on the one hand like I was talking to my my barber retired so I'm not in front of the regular barber and I his sister-in-law or his cousin is this Colombian lady you know she's actually quite

attractive so it's nice I mean there's like funny one on there but it's if you're an old guy like me it's important to talk to women sometimes otherwise you get weird and it's appropriate she's like my age you know but so you're talking about um she was i was wearing a rock t-shirt she was like yeah she's like you remember when clark and belmont was always hopping and you know there's this whole subculture you know like pumpkin donuts days and stuff so we were talking about that you know and she's like yeah she's like you know i went there not long ago with a girlfriend and you know it's like any other neighborhood now and i'm like yeah and i mean she's right like on the one hand that kind of

rawness and greediness has disappeared from a lot of hoods but in the other hand in those days when I was going to shows and stuff I have to plot my movements to not get my ass kicked or worse because on sight you'd get hurt you know in a black hood and to be fair like I said before if you were some black guy like talking shit or causing trouble in a white hood something bad would happen to you like that's unthinkable today man like I wouldn't you know there's a grand total, Pelton and Little Village are, I'm not trashing those hoods.

I know people's from there and I like them and there's actually nothing wrong with being from there. That's your local. That, if you don't have business there, you really shouldn't go there. But other than that, there's nowhere I won't go, man, because nothing's going to happen. I mean, if you're a single woman, obviously, that's totally different.

But, you know, if you're a man, Nothing going to happen. You know, like Blackwoods aren't just going to move on you in attack mode just because. But, I mean, in 1992, you better believe they would. You know, there's a reason why Bush deployed the Marine Corps just back from combat in Iraq. And LAPD, L.A. County Sheriff's National Guard, FBI, they formed this, they formed this task force

to quite literally engage the Crips and the Bloods because they were going to assault they were going to assault downtown L.A. You know, and they said 187 all cops, we're going to waste white people. We're going to burn it the fuck down.

You know, and Southern Marines and this police and PMC task force went to war in the street. You know, it was a race for. That's unthinkable now. That that would never happen now. I've told youngsters about that and they think I'm exaggerating and then I pull it up on YouTube but I'm like, look, I mean, I didn't make this up. I don't make shit up and also I don't exaggerate. You know, but it was a

totally different planet back then, man. And I know a lot of people, I mean, don't get me wrong. The process of history is what it is. Sitting on a lot of around saying violence is always bad or we've always got to be afraid of war, that that's the wrong way to look at it. But you know, you also shouldn't glorify these things. And I, you know, black folks being in in race war mode and us being at each other's throats and me having to plot my movements unless I'm, you know, like five deep with some friends who are armed, I don't want to live like that, man. That's fucked up. I sense to them old. I didn't, I, I, I, I didn't think it was cool when I was 17.

It's not cool, again. You know, I, if that makes me a big pussy or whatever, fine, but I, people who talk that way didn't have to deal with it, I mean, to me. Yeah, very true indeed. You know, on the subject in the topic of criminality and violence and whatnot, I mean, I know I'm a movie,

there will be blood, as mentioned quite a bit in our circles, but also we were mentioning this a little bit at the start with our mention of Boardwalk Empire about the Irish connection to organized crime in the United States. Why don't we chat on that for a little bit and then we can power through some of these super chats and call tonight.

Irish gangs and whatnot. I mean, as I understand it, and Chicago is a totally different gangster ecosystem, some than on either coast. It's totally different. You know, I know on the East Coast, there's this true crime classic called the Westies.

Back when, I mean, now Hell's Kitchen is like any other boogie hood. I mean, probably actually, it's probably more upscale than a lot of places now. You know, until the early 90s,

Hell's Kitchen was a very tough place. I don't Irish whenever the majority there in terms of or they remember a plurality among the ethnic groups but they had outsized clout and um this book called the westies is fascinating like if you want uh if you need like a gangster fix of like real like real gangster shit you should read Dead City by Shane Stevens and read the Westies you know again the Westies is a I'm sure there's some capping in it but uh I mean they got the guys guys who it's about were all real guys, you know?

But I... And interestingly, one of, uh, the, uh, the Gotti crew, who's, uh, the real, um, kind of power behind which was, uh, Frank DeChico, in my opinion. They fucked with the Westies.

And that's one of the ways they got things done. It's because the Westies were feared and they, they were, they were kind of EBKs. Like they, they, they'd, they'd kill any. anybody. They didn't care. They were afraid of anybody. And like I said, I don't know the East Coast directly. I only know it from like gangster lid and stuff, but the Irish are a rap for being serious pipe hitters. And obviously here, just like in, you know, people talking about NYPD being deep with Irish, uh, Chicago PD is in Chicago Fire Department is deep as fuck with them. And I,

like I one of my buddies from law school I'm not going to drop his name because he's a big shot lawyer now but he like in Chicago if you my alma mater was John Marshall Law School

and the Corboy Scholarship if it's the scholarship and if you're a cop and you can you got the grades and you all said score to get into John Marshall Law School you get a free ride so my buddy was a was a cop and that's how he he got into John Marshall with a free full ride but he

he left the police force when we graduated and he uh he went on to work in this big high flying firm and then became a judge and that's like a not unusual trajectory you know here stuff like that but the in the outfit um you know Chicago outfit is it was always different than the East Coast Mafia. However, the kind of core element was Italians. And there were plenty of Irish who would be the equivalent of made guys in terms of their clout. And the percentage of action they controlled and stuff. But the Irish kind of more did their own thing here.

and especially on the south side until very recently like until my generation you still had I mean the color bang era is long gone and I mean

gang bang is totally different than it used to be and it for all practical purposes it's kind of ceased to exist you know I realize there's guys who like say like yeah we're BDS or GDs or vice lords

so I mean a lot of that a lot of that though is just kind of like wrecking crews that are like branding themselves when they're like the hood they're from or like what their dad or their uncle was into or whatever but um they're through the color bang era

there was there was white mobs here which people think is weird but I'm not talking and most of them were actually like white power coated you know it wasn't like wigger stuff but especially on the south side, you'd have a lot of guys who, you know, they might be clicked up with, um,

they might click up and say like the south side popes or whatever, but there's a discernible, there was a discernibly like ethnically Irish, um, branding sort of shot through it, you know, um, stuff like that. And then there's a, I'm not going to name her, but I knew, I knew this chick from the south suburbs because I knew this kind of hood Spanish chick from Desplanes and Desplains is the suburbs but it's kind of odd

and especially then it was in transition this Desplains chick, she wasn't my girlfriend or anything but we'd hang out and like kicking stuff and she was friends with this south suburban Irish chick who'd hang out with us sometimes and her brother was a very feared dude

and he didn't claim any particular mob, but it was someone a bunch of Irish guys who and their name just rang out. You know, there was a lot of that kind of stuff. You know, like I said, I was like a North Shore guy. I mean, I grew up in a real nice hood, and I didn't gang bang or anything like that.

You know, but I know a lot of people who were in that kind of world. these days you know to your guys point the Irish I mean there's Irish dudes in our faction and in like

Mike Hodry who are local but they're you know they're law-viting guys or at least they're dudes who don't gang bang and stuff and when I've been when I found myself in places like Beverly or like Bridgeport or back in the

day um rigleyville is a really interesting part of town and the old bar the barney stone is people who like any genetic chicago and can uh tell you about that uh i the old lady margo who in the barney stone um the girl who tend bar there for was this irish chick was a south irish chick named anne and anne literally lived above the barney stone and like Like when I get this up to like this was like 25 30 years ago. That was the blurring something like hang out. And I get, you know, if I, if I had old too much to drink, like Margot or Ann and the tell me like, yeah, go crash upstairs on Anne's couch. You know, and I did many times.

But obviously there was all a bunch of like Northside Irish always like getting out of that bar and out of like Anne's apartment. You know, dudes and girls who, you know, were like literally police as well as who were like out and up gangster. you know so like i got to a i got to know a cross section of the of the north side i was pretty well um but again like they that clansiness was there man you know they they'd be aware of when people outside of the outside of the tribe are on deck um but i realized they spun this into a longer story and it had to be but what i got from these guys and girls is like I said a lot of

a lot of unspoken familial connections a lot of neighborhood shit that outsiders wouldn't understand it's not like they were all gangbanging under the same set or something

or like they were reping like a folks or people mob or something it was like yeah we're the north side Irish from here and my dad is this guy my uncle's that guy and my grandma is this lady

who's also this lady's cousin. So I click up with these guys and this is what we're into, if that makes any sense. Definitely. I can't really relate in that extent. But, I mean, all the Irish folk that I ran into my days. I mean, I went to an Irish Catholic school when I was growing up. That's cool. So, yeah, definitely a lot of.

Did they think it was weird that you're a bird that can talk? Yeah, very. very indeed yes well you know you know what's odd is I went to a Kappa school that was almost 100% WASP yeah I mean that's like

they became yeah that then the desegregation days there was places like that here um two like a bunch of a bunch of white prod kids who ended up in

um in the Catholic system I mean we're we're fit on the ground here so i mean i didn't it was more in like outlined suburbs and stuff but um yeah that that's a weird phenomena that i well it's you know if you have a good prep school if then you're you're not really caring that that they're gonna have to go to mass everyone so no i the education is so good yeah yeah definitely attest to that um with um the high school i went to a catholic and they basically

took anybody they took anybody who could pay Oh, yeah, no, and I went to a Catholic college, man. I went to a little Chicago. I mean, I went there for a reason. I mean, part of it was in those days, you know, you needed library access. I mean, this was when internet was nascent. But they, you know, they had, they were not remotely woke. They had, you could study political theory in a dedicated capacity, you know, and the academic

of culture back then was very amenable to what I was into you know I know I I agree experience with the old man I think of I think back on um I think back in college fondly and like I think you're kind of a goof if you think about I mean high school was awesome anyway but I mean I I never think fondly like about high school like at all but like I I didn't like it at all and um you know I went to school I went to school when the priests would put hands on you and like smack the shit out of you? Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I got slapped by a nun once when I was in middle school and I didn't even deserve it. It wasn't actually me who was causing the problems with some other kid. But yeah,

anyway. No, I don't think it's weird for people outside the faith to go to a Catholic school. I mean, yeah, I and yeah, I've known plenty of guys and girls who weren't that that wasn't their heritage but they went to Catholic schools yeah that's not weird no I like Kaelic people man I mean people get the wrong idea because you know like like Pete said you know making fun of people's heritage it just is something we do especially if you're you know a cantangorous gen Xer but I you know I mean I mean shit man I Chicago is my home all the all the all my clothes is friends on the ground here and including the OGC guys who we all love I mean they're a bunch of

Catholic dudes man you know like I this speaks for itself I'm the oddball on deck you know and it's not it's not even a thing and like they nobody makes me feel weird or anything and I um yeah that might be one of the things I hate most in this entire sphere is the um various Catholic versus Protestant versus you know pagan debates we have in these circles it's just all of it is just horribly unproductive and just doesn't exist when you're actually in the real world. Well, that's why, yeah, I got to assume,

I got to assume these guys that don't leave their house or if they do, and that's what they're really like. It's like, wow, you're a bigoted dickhead. You know, like, I don't hang out with people like that. You know, no, you're absolutely right. And I, you know, that's what, like I said, obviously, if I don't know people well, I'm not going to come at them with ethnic or sectarian jokes.

But, I mean, among friends. I mean, I, you know, it's just part of how we relate, man. I mean, I take as much shit as I dish out, man. If you make fun of me, I mean, the fellas make fun of me all the time, you know, like, I, it's just part of the ongoing hazing of, you know, life as a, the male of the species. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's a part of masculinity that people just, like, forget, you know, it's like, that's how guys relate. It's like, that's how I know you're cool. If you're one of my dudes, like, I can make fun of you.

but if some guy in the street was to come up and say something nasty and like, okay, I'm going to beat the shit out of, you know? It's not a great... This past weekend, Thomas called me a... I said I wanted to go get some sleep, and Thomas called me a lazy spaniard and go and take a siesta. Yes, that is that he did. No, yeah, and, uh, yeah, it's all, uh,

it'd be, it'd be suss as fuck if, uh, you know, somebody took that the wrong way. I mean, admittedly, you know, you've got to be, you can't get overly familiar with people, but that's one of the nice things about, you know, going to the lake and seeing you guys and all the fellas. I mean, that's, that's legit one of the highlights of my year because it's like a big family reunion and, you know, like I, you know, I'm cool with all of them guys, man. It's, you know, we're like family. That's dope. speaking of being a lazy being a lazy Iberian

I'm feeling kind of faded man yeah yeah we're gonna wrap up here yeah let's get into super chats and then I'm gonna raise up yes sounds good I need I need Doug to put the access of the magic Google Doc in the chat here so I can look at all them super chats

and then we'll get rolling on that so up there we go perfect thank you all right scrolling up to the top we've got Adrian Shepherd sends us two bucks and he says triple seven mafia salute hail the OGC salute well thank you sir you are a real American thank you only all right moving on again he sends a another five bucks says how should Americans take pride in their own history slash war traditions given the events of the 20th century without becoming deracinated but uh but not sogged boy that's a five dollar super show that's like a whole stream i mean my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my hearted is nothing to do with

some hostile government fighting you know waging waging war on europe and alliance with the communists like i uh i were the i i were the bloodstained banner on my purse and every single day. That's my heritage. The government's got nothing to do with me. You know, like, why why don't you take, it didn't even like that? Like I said, like, my cultural canon is stuff like

the King James Bible and Arthurian lore, and, you know, the, the, the, the tradition of, you know, the, the, the Ulster Yeomanry, man. I think, you know, not to rag on this guy here, but I think this is,

another problem that a lot of young dudes have. And I imagine this is just something that happens in any time in place, not just ours, even though our time has some other issues. But guys, you're going to get through life or you're going to have some kind of inconsistencies or what have you. And like as it relates to, I don't want to use this as like gay leftist term, like your identity or something like this. But like, why are you going to have like your history or something be compromised by?

what's currently going on with, you know, Zog or something like that, man. I mean, like, that's... My history's my history, you know? Well, yeah, given to Caesar what Caesar is due, and I made the point of people, too, especially when people are like, they're taking down this monument that's like, I don't want Zod fucking with my heritage.

I don't want them dirtying it with their monuments or anything else. You know, it's nothing to do with them. You know, um, and this idea that you've got to live through you've got to live through regime institutions is bullshit somebody other people is telling me oh it's like a tragedy under the Boy Scouts

I'm like why are you fucking with the Boy Scouts you know I can name you like half a dozen of our people's institutions that teach you know youngsters like you know camping skills outdoors skills you know there's that community experience you know between um

you know the other kids and between the fathers you know we get together, let up, shoot. Like, why would you go through some regime institution for that? And just, like, kind of hope that it doesn't, you know, trying to socially engineer your kids away from, you know, their own heritage. Like, it shouldn't even come to that.

You shouldn't even bother with it. You know, you should secede. There you have it. Moving on. Christopher Burke sends us five bucks in a salute. Thank you, sir. You are a real American. Real Americans.

Yeah, there we go. There he is. We got Solid Snake, 1964, who was not the first super shower tonight. How dare you, sir. Unacceptable. Get your cardboard box out of storage and the sneak behind enemy lines, man. All right. He sends us $10, evening gents. I'm only a smidge Irish, with most of me being German and Norwegian by blood. But I must be making my Irish ancestors proud by being Catholic, loving Irish whiskey.

and my love of redheads. Well, who doesn't love a redhead, man? Come on. Hopefully, I didn't insult any actual Irish men than maybe listening. Ha-ha. Yeah, that's the other thing, too. I mean, Irish whiskey's great.

Everyone loves their Jameson, man. No, I'm bushmills. I only think pushmills. Really? You know, Jameson's good with... Jameson makes a really good Irish rover. Add a little bit of Bailey's to everybody.

yeah it's awesome but Jameson does it's it's it's it's it's um it it it it kicks like a mule man like when there's like bush mills is because it's so smooth like it's it's smooth than a prom queen's thighs and not nearly as risky

I like that well I got the movie reference yeah son of Haster since us five bucks uh oh no oh he says uh-oh, time to decide if I'm Irish or Italian or Slavic.

Well, I mean, it's just like deciding what kind of black person you were. Just say I'm black. I got a hammering. Sends us $10. Says, thank you guys. Well, thank you, sir. SkiBum 220. One of our top super chatterers, as always, sends us $50.

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Wolfgang sends us $15. Says, gee, having to catch the stream late, salute the OGC. Well, thank you, sir. Real Americans. And no, I'm not Grim from Red Hood, who's supporting a channel membership star next to his profile. So he's giving us some money every month to watch gaming content. Thank you very much, sir. For two bucks, he says, the Lucky Charms question.

Hey, man, Lucky Charms is a good cereal. All right. I ate that a lot when I was a little kid. You know, I, lucky Charms isn't bad. The cereal, that was my favorite, like, garbage cereal. it was called circus fun and nobody remembers it but it was so awesome um and it was literally themed after circuses like uh it was just so fucking dope like uh like circus animals and stuff like those animal yeah and it was totally surreal though it was like it was these like kind of

nightmarous looking clowns and uh like balls and like elephants it was horses coops, balls, bears, elephants, and lions. I remember the song. And like, when I bring it up, people think I'm on crack or something. I'm like, no, man, circus fun existed, and it was fucking delicious. I remember going to being taken to a circus when I was a kid. I mean, they've all, like, pretty much sense of a band now. I don't even think you can go to him anymore.

But I do remember when I was a child seeing, like, the whole elephants and a bunch of, like, tigers and the whole act and everything. But it's weird and it dirt as long as it did, man. Like, honestly, it's, like, even if it, even if neurotic shitwaves hadn't killed it it's it's odd it endured after about the 1950s you know um it uh then of course because i'm in westerner i'm all familiar with the inbred evil cousin of the circus the carnival um those are still around in some places yeah but no they're still around here but they've been totally sanitized like that

Yeah, I'm talking, like when the carnival come around, like me and my friends, we'd play the carnival games, because you could win, you could win a prize mirror. You could win a prize cocaine mirror with, like, motley crew on it. And those are, like, feathered roach clips. There was, like, there was, like, a seediness to it. There was, there's, there's, like, a hair metal in, and cocaine, like, heavily cut cocaine and, like, bad tattoos and mullet seediness to it that was glorious. Interesting. And the last movie that Thomas and I reviewed was Toby Hooper's Funhouse. Yeah, man.

That's my reason why I relate to that film. But it's also a dope movie. I was watching Hell Night the other day. You know, that was when Linda Blair was in full screen clean mode. And, I mean, she was an adult then. And that's when she was, like, kicking her with Rick James. And she'd become kind of a kind of like a bad girl, you know, like a bombshell type. of a girl but a hell night is pretty dope too it's not as good as the fun house but that's kind of an unsung

horror movie too i've been on a horror film kicks you might have noticed me all righty um moving on to our good friend millen sends us five bucks he says uh hey thomas doing some research on nixon do you cover him in any of your work other than the nixon episode in the cold war series with p Yeah, man. Nixon is a consistent, the Nixon administration and Nixon the man bears directly on my primary research concentration and concentrations. And yeah, the Nixon administration and the 1973 war is a major aspect of my manuscript. Which I'm sending off the manuscript April first.

I've got to get my, I've got to do my taxes and I've got to send the manuscript. I'm going to do those things the first week in April. Um, you know, and I, I plan to dedicate myself increasingly a long form. Like when this, when this books finally published, I've got a lot of other long form stuff already completed as well as sort of in my mind. So, yeah, I'm going to continue writing about the 20th century. I'm going to continue writing about how extant conflict paradigms derive in causal terms from the 20th century. and the next administration plays a huge part

on that. Well, in terms of the trajectory of domestic policy and the, you know, and in zeitgeist, as well as in terms of international affairs and things. I'm playing with the idea of writing a brief, I mean, apparently brief, like, you know,

two, 300 pages, sort of a revisionist history of the Cold War. And focus more on Cold War subject, matter and I want to write I want to do some writing on the epistemological

aspects of the end of the Cold War and the Islamic awakening specifically and how this has characterized the 21st century in power political terms you know and I like I've said I Osama bin Laden I'm not saying we should admire

Osama bin Laden or anything like that but he's he is the most significant revolutionary since since Ho Chi men and he they can't be denied you know so I I what I'm getting as yeah

I cover Nixon in the manuscript I'll I continue to cover in my content you know both written long and short forum as well as in my podcast and stuff um well we also I got the YouTube channel for some of that stuff

yeah I figured it's being long with it Yeah, we also have a three episodes that we did on Nixon and Watergate that are that are out there as a complete, complete file on my podcast channel. Boy, howdy. Yeah, definitely check that out. And then we got Donnie B. For 25 bucks. This is actually not an anthropomorphic super sticker. there we go so well thank you very much for that and that's us all caught up on the super chats

so we'll go through some promotions and we'll call it a night here so Pete where can people find your stuff now that they don't see you on YouTube much and what do you have coming up honestly the only thing I was putting on YouTube were the 200 years together episodes and they're all on Rumble so I had an Odyssey so you can just slide right on over there just released a third episode with George Bagby released that tonight

on the road to the road to the war between the states and we got into John Taylor of Caroline and the agrarians versus the the city folk yeah Bagby's awesome

man oh yeah very very good dude indeed Thomas where can people find more of your stuff and thank you for coming on as ever always a pleasure to talk to you yeah thanks for including me i always get a kick out of being included on o gc streams you should go to my website it's thomas seven seven seven seven seven dot com number seven h m as seven seven seven that's you can pretty much access all my all my content um my substack is real thomas seven seven 7 that substack.com

and you can also find me on YouTube. It's Thomas TV at number 7, H-O-M-A-S number 7V. So Thomas TV. You can you still find.

All right, perfect. Everyone definitely make sure to look that up. And then we got a last minute super chat from Volpe's persona, who is also supporting a channel membership star. Thank you very much. He sends As a salute.

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