The Pete Quiñones Show - Pony Express Radio 07/23/26 - How I Learned to Love the Surveillance State

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

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I love the flak camera data centers. The flak camera data centers are my friends. We'll be getting into that later. But of course, we are back here for another episode of Pony Express Radio. I am, of course, Mr. President Red Hawk, joining me once again to discuss the slop in the news stories of the week. Mr. Pekrononez is back once again. How are you, sir? Doing good.

Doing well. Excellent, excellent. And if anybody here is a channel member of the standing back and standing by, You will know this next character who's joining us this evening. This is Doug who frequents us on our various gaming streams. We have a whole cast of characters that we hang out here with in the OGC. But he just had to come on today because he has quite a bit to say on a certain topic that we're going to get to in the show. But say hello to everyone, Doug.

Happy to be here. Yes, we're happy to have you as well. All righty. So before we get into the various stories of the week, as ever, we must get through our list of sponsors and friends of the show. So at the very beginning, people know that it is July. We're in the middle of White Boy summer right now.

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Here's a, this is like the reported number that they have right now, you know, over 100,000 of these things throughout, you know, many parts of the United States, mostly in the eastern coast and your metro areas or what have you. But what actually are these flock cameras? I mean, we have like security cameras on traffic stops all the time. You know, these have been used for a long time to, you know, figure out who was actually guilty at the scene of like a car crash, you know, who was actually a fault for insurance company purposes. So it's like, well, what's the big deal? Why are these so dangerous? Why are these new? Well, we're going to get into that here. So flock is just one of these companies, one of these like AI Tech Bro, Dubrow, douchebag companies, you know, that just came out of nowhere with a bunch of taxpayer money, no doubt.

And these guys, basically what these flock cameras do is that they take a picture every single time a vehicle drives by. They capture a picture of your license plate. Okay. This is different than, you know, oh, just like watching the intersection to see when a car actually gets into an accident or something like that. And then we determine afterwards who's at fault. this is actually recording, you know, which car passed this area at which time, and I'm plotting them on a map, basically, and complete violation of the Fourth Amendment as far as I'm concerned on that point,

because the police are now just, they don't need a warrant to see where you go. Oh, this car went through this traffic lay at this time and went to this traffic lay at another time, and this one and another one, and they could just track your movements entirely without a warrant. And, of course, American people are really upset about this. So opening thoughts on this gentleman. Well, I mean, what I would say is, and this is something that I would never condone, because, you know, I think it's important that companies keep making tons and tons of money. But, you know, like, I've heard things about, and I decry this.

I hate it. like people taking like multiple balloons and putting them in front of flock cameras. And every time that happens, basically the company has to send somebody out to check and not only remove the balloons, but they have to check the camera. And it costs like thousands of dollars every time that happens. So please don't do that. You know, that would definitely hurt the company. You know, this company where any time on social media, somebody with an account over a thousand followers says something bad, you know, criticizes the company that you have the street shitter who owns the company threatens to sue them.

So, you know, it seems like they may be having some problems or this guy is just really highly strung. mind you, know that nothing is going to happen to this guy because the government wants this. Yes, your government wants this. Yes, this administration has no problem with these things. They're not going to come down upon these companies. They're not going to say it's an invasion of privacy because it's a private company, bro, and they can do whatever they want. So just know, don't ever.

ever, ever do that. Because every time somebody blocks one of these cameras, it costs thousands of dollars for them to come out and they have to check the camera and remove whatever somebody's put in front of it. Don't do that. Yeah, it's very unfortunate that there was a group of people that believe they called themselves the net runners in London that they had very similar safety cameras installed. and despite the fact that these terrorists hate, hate community safety, they went out and were cutting them down, which is not advisable as these cameras are often insured, but it did cost the city enough money to eventually they gave up on the project.

And it would be terrible if such a company looking after Americans' best interest was forced to go bankrupt, trying to unblock their cameras from balloons. Yeah. One of the things I really wanted to inject in this conversation is, especially for a lot of the younger guys who weren't there, you know, during the great scare after 9-11 or what have you, and then we had the whole Edward Snowden and WikiLeaks and whatnot like this. I mean, we know that the government has been spying on people for a very, very long time in a myriad of different place. And we also know that this increase in. and spyware and whatnot has not made us safer in any way. Okay. All the stuff as it relates to TSA hasn't prevented a single airplane hijacking or death, anything like that. It's just making all of our travel horrible and is just a, God, do you guys remember last year when during they were trying to pass that big beautiful bill?

They were trying to take out the provisions for TSA, you know, the Trump administration. It's like, oh, we have to force it back in because it's an institution that we must protect, basically a jobs program for a bunch of negresses, you know, to be working and patting people down or what have you. But it's just very, very frustrating that people still fall for these arguments of, well, these flock cameras will help us with things like ask deportations, for example, or cut down on crime or what have you. But it's like, we'll be talking about that. Yeah, we absolutely will be talking about that. But it's like, guys, we know how this game is played. We are living in an anarcho tyranny here.

the administration, this one, or the next one, or the ones after that, okay? They already have all the tools that they need right now to fix the crime in all of our major cities. We know who's committing the crime. There are guys who have rap sheets 200 miles long with like 300 different defenses, right? But we know how to fix the problem here. What? You think crime is like a brand new invention in 2026 or something? Like we don't know how to deal with that as if humanity hasn't been dealing with crime for hundreds of thousands of years.

Really? this is just clown world to say that we actually need these to feel safer. And in addition to that, right, we saw what happened after most recently in 2020, the great riots all throughout the country. We had thousands upon thousands of hours of video footage of people burning down businesses, just assaulting people, shooting people, people got killed. None of these people were brought to justice in any way. But come January 6th, the entire intelligence apparatus was hunting down all the people, who took a stroll into the Capitol and completely upended and destroyed their lives. Okay?

We know how this game is played. Why are people still like trying to justify this and saying, oh, we're going to get mass deportations this way? It's like, guys, you are out of your mind if you think that installing these flock cameras around every street corner is somehow going to up the amount of mass deportations that we're going to get. Austin was a early adopter on this, and as soon as they installed them, crime went up. just we know what happens here guys we know how this game is played this is just another one of these ridiculous AI Dubro Tech companies that is hyper inflated because they get all these like government kickbacks or what have you to install these various cameras and these various programs okay they're just trying their absolute best to keep this economy up on stilts basically

but defendant for falling apart we'll get to that shortly as well it's just it's just so shameful seeing people try to get us locked into an even more intrusive surveillance date. I mean, like, seriously, what's going to happen if, you know, we decide, the government decides, oh, we're going to have another COVID-style lockdown, or we're going to start hunting down people who post things on the Internet. We can plot out their entire movements with these flock cameras and we don't need a warrant for it. Just none of this is good, none of it whatsoever. Quick correction. Chat caught it for me. I said it was the net runners in London.

they were in fact the blade runners in London were responsible for destroying the wonderful safety system they were trying to put in. Harrison Ford and Ryan Gosling were on the case as well. All right. So anything more that we have to say on these flock cameras before we tie it into a couple other stories that this is all wrapped up in? I mean, the reason these exist and the reason why your government, is not going to say anything about it is because of it started with the Patriot Act

and people were like save us, save us from the Muslims who are going to fly planes into our buildings and they're going to keep doing it no, you can do whatever you want I mean we have it because

people live in fear mind you and we're and we're ruled by psychopath had to, you know, I'll leave it at that. Mind you, Flock is very paranoid about their privacy. They don't put their name up on their building, so they are identifiable. They have harsh security ensuring that none of the employees can be filmed. So they get privacy.

Yeah, of course they do. Of course they do. Yeah, the other thing here, too, is that if I was to take a charitable interpretation of this, right, But when people say, oh, we need to cut down on crime in our cities, we need to cut down on illegal aliens, we need to cut down on all these various issues that they claim are going to help with these cameras, right? The hard reality is that technology isn't going to fix the actual problems with the country. It's not going to enforce new social order, social norms, or bring back communities or bring back families or bring back Christian morality or any of these things that are actually going on. that's actually sick with the people of the country, we're not going to be able to tech our way out of this.

We actually are going to have to do the hard work and build up our communities and build up our networks of trust, literally from the ground up, because they've been basically ripped out root and stem. There's, you know, I don't want to actually live in a world where, yeah, I just had the click of a button,

I could find some guy who's guilty of a crime and immediately thrown me in the prison. even though that would provide me a little bit of security in some way, the other thing that provides me security is just having a Glock in my house, basically. Like, I'd much rather live in that world than this, this,

you know, digital pinopticon, you know, going from Bentham, right? No, no, I don't like it.

Not in the American spirit whatsoever in blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment. And no doubt it will be abused by the people who will, if not in this regime, certainly the next regime or the next people who come. into power rather. And for our audience's reference, this wonderful map that you see on screen can be found at deflock.org, where you too can put in your address and find out where your flock cameras are

and ensure that you're safe. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely. Contribute to the database. It's like, do you remember where I'm, God, what was it? Was it Waze, I think, was the one back of the day where you could drop like where a cop is sitting, like on the corner and warn people. It's like, hey, there's a cop here and a speed trap, you know?

You know where, you know where Waze is run out of? Is it Israel? Tell me it's not Israel. No. Well, why don't we get into the next topic then? There you go. Brought a very nice stuff to L.D. to the next topic.

So, man, this one, we were talking before we went live on this one. It's like, well, can we even really be mad anymore? Can we even really be surprised anymore that this kind of stuff is happening? just so blatantly in the open. Okay. And of course, we're talking about the merging of the United States and Israeli intelligence services. So here we go. Okay.

Doug, you wanted to go off on this one. The floor is yours, sir. Oh, shit. I was muted. Oh, damn, you were muted. Yeah. Yeah. Restart.

Restart. So, side note, every year, because the, founders believed that we had standing armies were tyrannical every year we go through the charade of reauthorizing the military so that we can pretend that it's not a standing army for the sake of I'm not even sure what so let's just get right into reading it so this is section 219 United States Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative so this is the first part and we'll get to the second part in a moment the Secretary of Defense Subdustanake executive agent as such a term is defined, blah, blah,

responsible for synchronizing cooperative efforts between United States and Israel to expand and accelerate bilateral defense technology, research, development, testing, evaluation, integration, industrial cooperation. So first thing is this is, there's a plenipotentiary is going to be created that will have power to direct this entire industrial cooperation, as they like to say. I'm sure they'll find Jonathan Pollard. He would be eligible for this still, wouldn't he? I think he still has a U.S. citizenship. They could just get him to do it because this was his old job anyways.

So what is he going to do? Identify jointly developed or Israeli origin technologies with operational utility for potential integration in the United States systems and programs of record. Ensuring collaborative research initiatives involving government, private sector, and academic institutions in Israel is done in a manner that protects sensitive technology information and national security interests of the United States and Israel, facilitating the transition of technologies from research and development into procurement and acquisition pathways. That's important. We'll get back to that. Establishing frameworks for joint ventures, licensing agreements in the United States-based,

co-production or manufacturing partnerships with Israeli industry, coordinating with relevant Department of Defense components, including a bunch of different people, promoting joint training exercises and information sharing mechanisms to ensure operational readiness to deploy jointly developed technologies. The synchronized cooperative efforts may be carried out through the following domains, counter-unmaned systems, including aerial maritime and ground platforms,

anti-tunneling and subterranean threats, missile and air defense technologies, artificial intelligence, quantum machine learning, and autonomous systems, directed energy and advanced sensing, cyber defense, electronic warfare, digital resilience, biotechnology, manufacturing, medical defense, network integration, data fusion, contested logistics, defense industrial-based cooperation, manufacturing, co-production, other emerging technologies, as jointly agreed by the United States and Israel. retry genapair tree. Right, which that last one's rather important because what is an emerging technology? Well, if you're doing research on something, it's an emerging technology. So everything.

So what this is going to do is this is just going to allow Israel into every single research department and it'll get into DARPA. It'll get into academic agency institutions. We're noted there as well. So there is going to be no such thing as U.S. national secrets on the research side, because Israel is going to have full access to them. What does Israel give us in return for this? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Another important part to mention in that is I talked about the procurement, transitioning into procurement and acquisition pathways,

joint ventures and licensing agreements. Well, Israel doesn't produce anything but sand. I mean, that's changed a little bit in the most recent years as they're starting to spool up some more in-house production for various things. But for the most part, they got out of those pornography companies. You know, like, come on. For the most part, what Israeli defense industry looks like is Boeing makes something. They slap a star of David on it and they call it Israeli. So what's going to end up happening here is they're going to middleman the entire,

the military industrial complex. So instead of the U.S. giving Israel money, who then uses that money to buy U.S. goods, Israel's just going to have full control of the manufacturing and production process, including inside of the United States, where any of their large defense contractors already have factories. So we're just going to give Israel control over our military factories, and then they're going to sell it back to us. This is just so unbelievable. Excuse me. This is just so absurd on his face. Like if I was playing a map game or strategy game, if I was playing Warhammer,

if I was playing Siv, playing Rome Total War, anything like this, right? And this like diplomatic deal came across my desk. There's literally nobody that I would ever agree to with this, like ever, under any circumstances. This is just completely an utter clown world. Like, oh, yeah,

we're going to give a country that the majority of the American population absolutely despise that just dragged us into another, useless war for them, which the Israelis just announced this week that, no, we want nothing to do with the American operation, special operation in Iran. It's like, oh, great. So the Israelis won't even want to die for Israel. It's just, it's amazing. Just understand that we can't get our own intelligence agencies to share information.

Yet now Israel is going to have access to all. of it. Oh, that's part two. We haven't gotten to part two yet. Okay. Okay, so part two. That comes out of the, this is section 219 of the National Defense Authorization Act, which we just read. Over here, this is going through the Senate currently. This is the Intelligence Authorization Act. And now you may be saying, what do these two have to do with each other? Well, last year, the Intelligence Authorization Act never passed. This This is very similar to the National Defense, although just for intelligence, it's authorizing their budget. What they do is they pass the National Defense Authorization Act, and then it goes into reconciliation,

and then they just add in the Intelligence Authorization Act, and then they blindly pass that. So this is not going to get voted on. This is just going to get inserted sometime later. And within here we have Section 622, the United States Israel Intelligence Sharing Enhance. So the first part's just a bunch of gibberish about how Israel is our greatest ally, and it's really important, and we have to make sure that they have access to all of our intelligence at all times. So now we get down to the important part, which is intelligent. Intelligence sharing with Israel.

In general, the president acting through the director of national intelligence and, as necessary, the Secretary of Defense, shall, subject to applicable law and the protection of intelligence sources, expand and enhance intelligence sharing with the government, Israel. Scope of intelligence sharing. Intelligence sharing carried out under this subsection shall include the sharing of information relating to cybersecurity threats, terrorism, sanctions, invasion, plans, and intention of state and non-state actors. Adversarial technology proliferation, missile threats, unmanned aerial systems. cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, it goes on and on, limitations on reduction of intelligence theory. In general, intelligence sharing

and related security information exchanges with the government of Israel shall not be suspended, reduced, or otherwise material limited, except on the basis of a specific and identifiable national securities concerned determined by the president, such as the protection of intelligence sources

and methods, counterintelligence, risks, or other significant security considerations. So basically nothing because the president of any administration is a slave to Israel. So basically nothing. Correct. And importantly, we already do intelligence sharings with many countries, such as famously Five Eyes, which is Five Eyes are all the Anglo Nations. So we at least have something in common with them.

But Five Eyes does not dictate that basically they shall have access. to information unless you can find a reason not to give it. We're just very free with the back and forth. And in fact, they recently cut off Canada because they've been giving too many things to the Chinese. And so now we're just going to, we basically are on a shall issue

intelligence to Israel unless somebody can go to the president himself and have him sign a directive. Was a history of giving our secrets who, who, Israel has a history of giving our secrets to our biggest enemies, the Soviet Union, China, whatever, whomever. Right.

So already an unreliable ally with secret information already. And this is what's just so amazing about this, right? It's like the identical national security concern determined by the president. We already know back from the Trump first administration about how the intelligence services over here already just lied to the president on like what is going on in the Middle East, for example, like how many troops we have over there. So we know that the deep state and the national security apparatus could easily just not tell the president about any of these things and he would never know about this stuff

to actually go against like Israel poking their nose around certain places. In addition to that as well, like, do we seriously think that as soon as we open up this Pandora's box to Israel is that they're not going to immediately find a way to, you know, like put bugs basically on every single one of, you know, the, the, they're going to find backdoors to get into all of our shit, basically. And there's no way to think that they won't. Well, no reason to think not. The NSA already collects it all. So now the NSA is just going to hand that database over to Israel. And I mean, these are the people who famously, illegally spied on the Trump campaign. So we know that the nominal laws don't really restrict what they can

and can't do. But at least there's nominal restrictions on it. This is legalizing Israeli blackmail against our politicians and other Americans. And it also takes away, if you did have a president that wanted to exercise their Article 2 powers, this basically, when it comes to intelligence, they are completely locked out of saying we can't share this with them. Well, they, article 2, now anything that the any article uh any article to power that a president would seek to take when it comes to our intelligence to say no we cannot share this with them that he would have to go to he he or she probably in the in the future would have to go to congress and explain to them why and congress is going to be sitting there with their pockets full of of jewish money going yeah

no fuck off no no way is all the blackmail in the world on these various politicians who are complete and told the degenerates as we know. So, yeah. This is detrimental to our friends because despite all of our consternations, there are many patriots inside of the intelligence apparatus and the Pentagon and what have you, who have been fighting tooth and nail to resist the efforts of Israeli takeover. And in their bureaucratic fights, they're now about to just get completely bulldozed. Like there's no opportunities for George Kennons.

There's no opportunities for Joseph McCarthy's. That's all gone. Yeah. The other thing I have to say about this, too, is the arguments I'm seeing from people to downplay this basically because, you know, we were mentioning right at the start about how using the term merging isn't quite what the bill here actually, you know, has in mind, right? And then people try to walk things back and say like, oh, well, you see, none of this actually matters because the Senate isn't actually going to pass this, even though it went through the

House and excuse B and excuse A and excuse Z, all through the lines here. I mean, just think about this in the actual broader geostrategic sense of what is happening right now in the world. Israel knows. They've said it themselves. Netanyahu has said it himself on TV saying that they are losing the younger generations in the United States. Everybody knows this. Look at all the polls, look at all the memes, talk to any person in the United States under age 40, and all of them, all of them basically want us to cut all military aid to Israel, stop funding them, stop associating with them, stop being allies with them. And the Israelis, they're not stupid.

They see this coming down the pipeline. And do you think that just, you know, all of a sudden, you know, they just decided today, they're like, oh, well, you know, we actually need to merge the intelligence apparatuses of Mossad and America. you know, it's a Wednesday, we just, you know, we just need to do this right now. It's like, no, they see where the pieces on the board are. They need to get this in now. So in the future, when a new administration comes along,

who is voted in by an increasingly aggravated base in America who's upset with Israel, that this is a way that they're going to get around people sending them money. The foxes are already in the hen house is what they're trying to do. Well, right, because as I mentioned earlier, particularly under the National Defense Authorization Act, the Arno Milchin Act, Israel is going to be progressively small at first, but progressively take over the entire military industrial complex. Not that they'll ever be actually producing things, but they will have many companies

and subsidiaries who, according to that, are going to basically get priority on research and procurement contracts, and then they can rehire the white guys to make the stuff for them and slap their logo on it. And then the U.S. is going to have to buy those products from Israel. So instead of us giving them free stuff, we have to go begging with our checkbook to get it from them. While they're selling it to China and while they're selling it to every country that hates us. Yeah. I mean... Because they're open to do that. Because this open. opens them up to do that.

This isn't panicking. We're reading the fucking thing here. I mean, any, any truester who is, I mean, I, yeah, and the worst,

I mean, and I'll say this, again, I know I've said it before. The worst thing about the truesters is, is not that they truest. I have no problem with that. But part of truesting is attacking us

who sit here, read it, know exactly what it says, and we go, this is, this is exactly what it's setting up. And then they have to attack us, where you can introduce all you want, and I don't, I don't need to attack you. I think you're retarded, but I mean, I think a lot of people are retarded. I mean, I have people in my family who are retarded. It doesn't mean I don't want to see them ever again, but it's the fact that you have to attack us because that's part of whatever deal you've made in your group chats or whoever you're taking money from.

That's the other thing, too. This is like the cynical part of me that's saying this is like other people who are allegedly on the online right and who a year ago, if they tried to say on their timelines that, oh, well, you see, the United States should actually go to war with Iran. Okay. And on top of that, we should merge our security apparatuses in the military industrial complex with Israel. if anybody had said this on their timelines a year ago, they would have been immediately laughed out of the room and kicked out of any circle. But because these idiots have basically put themselves into their own little retarded feedback loop group chats, basically. It's like, oh, no, you see, like, if anyone's freaking out about this, actually, those people are panicans.

Those people are black pillars. Those people are anti-Trump. And you don't want to listen to those people. It's just these fucking faggots are trying to take out their competition. That's exactly what all this shit is. they are hedging their bets. So when this thing does pass and into the future, when the next administration comes in and puts all of us basically in the crosshairs, we were just talking about these flock cameras five seconds ago, okay?

Do you think that there's not going to be some intelligence sharing going on between these flock cameras, tracking everybody's movements, tracking, you know, I mean, we've already had issues with Twitter verification that they were sent through a Mossad-based company, were they not? I think there was something to that degree, you know, when you send up a verification on Twitter or what have you. and they do a background check on you. It's like, come on, guys. They put two and two together here. Think ahead.

I don't know about you, Patriots, but I celebrated our wonderful federal holiday on June 19th when the Rosenbergs were executed. The horrifying thing about this National Defense Authorization Act is that that would no longer be possible. Because if this was around when the Rosenbergs were doing what they were doing, Israel would have simply taken the nuclear secrets and sold them to the Soviet Union.

and it all would have been perfectly legal. And as we know, legalizing crime doesn't make it more moral and it doesn't make the perpetrators any less culpable. In fact, it meets the people who legalize the crime are themselves culpable

for every crime committed under it. And so I would see the politicians responsible for this deserve no less than the Rosenbergs. Here, here. I mean, again, like how many times do we have to talk about George Washington? in the farewell address and not getting entangled in these foreign alliances.

This is just so unbelievably beyond the pale. Do you think the founding fathers would have wanted to attach our military secrets to the fucking French or the British? You know, God. Every Republican in the House, except for the guy that they spent $35 million to unseat, voted yes for this. Every Republican, every Republican, but the exception of the exception of the, 101. But oh, he

isn't strong enough on the borders and we don't have a country. We basically don't have a foreign policy anymore if this goes through. I mean, because how can we? How can we? This is a country that

no matter what you think, no matter what you want to believe, they hate us. And they want to destroy us. They want to destroy the West. They want to destroy, I mean, there really isn't a West anymore, but they want to destroy Christendom, which is the West. That's why they flood it with evil fucking people who will rape your fucking,

when they're not raping your daughters, they flood the fucking West with people who will. And then make it illegal for you to say, anything about that. George Washington would have been of horde to see us do something like this with the British, who are Anglo brothers,

or France, as you mentioned, who are at least a white Christian country. We're doing this with a bunch of nons in a desert shithole. It's just so unbelievably beyond the pale, and it's so frustrating to me when people try and,

you know, again, like, try and downplay how bad this actually is, especially for all of us here on the online right, who are trying to make, you know, in roads and is saving our country, right? We're like the only serious people, right? The fucker Republican Party is just selling us out everywhere we go, right? I mean, people should know better about these things. And to see people who, again, like I was mentioning, if any of them were taking the same positions, even like six months ago or a year ago that they're taking today, would be immediately laughed out of the room and called all kinds of names, deservedly so.

but now there are people who are just going on they're saying well you see actually this doesn't merge our militaries entirely and Israel is only slightly sticking their cock in our ass they're not going full thrust no come on guys what's going on you guys are blackpilling okay they're not actually fully ramming us

in our anus no God I hate these people so much man you know and notice you're even seeing you know a couple of them backpedaling now we're not going to fucking

forget. No, I certainly won't be. No way. Absolutely not. These people are going to try and slither their way back in like the snakes that they are. I'm trying to be like, oh, well, guys, you know, but we see which way the wind is blowing now. And now that the midterms are over. And now we've, that the Republicans have just taken it up the ass because we started this retarded war for the Israelis. Now, we can't get mass deportations done. The administration is about to grind to a halt. well let's go back into the base guys and the online right guys to try and save what little of our credibility we have left it's like fuck you dude fuck you yeah and again like well this is gonna be a good transition unless you have anything more you want to read from this dog i think we got the gist of it no i think we're good all right well want to we transfer into the mass deportations uh stuff because

this was the line that we heard from people uh dating back all the way to operation midnight hammer dating back to what was going on with Venezuela, dating back to this latest exchange with Iran. It's just, well, guys, you see, if we give them the foreign policy wins, we're going to get the domestic policy wins, too, thinking that these things do not have any connection whatsoever, which is obvious bullshit. You only have so much political capital you could spend. I was listening to Richard Barris and Mark Mitchell the other day, and they were going over some of the new polling data as it relates. to like the Magna Coalition or what have you. And it just shows that the only people who have actually increased their support of the Magna Coalition

are basically Fox News Boomers. And then everybody else under the age of 50, a lot of people have just jumped ship. Because we didn't sign up for this. We didn't sign up for a new war for Israel. It's just, it's so obvious. Anyway, so the political capital, basically, to get mass deportations done has taken a serious dent,

especially because we've wasted all this capital on a retarded war for the Israeli. that we're now basically stuck in because, you know, Donald Trump and the administration refuses to have this thing look like a loss for them because it is a loss. We've covered it on the show many times. Like we basically got our asses handed to us in this war because we can't get rid of them. We cannot make the Iranians actually come to the table without having a ground invasion force and we're not going to do that.

So basically we're screwed. We can blow up all we want. It doesn't matter. All they need is a couple thousand dollar drones and they can blow up some oil tankers and just the balance of power here. is just ridiculous. It's not even what have you. But why am I talking about this kind of stuff? Well, talk about this because we have the new numbers as it relates to the deportations.

We're going to read this right here. New ICE data dump reveals the agency has carried out 356,000 deportations so far in fiscal year 2026, which began October 1st. That averages out to roughly 1,260 per day. Ice currently has 65,000 in people in ICE detention, almost 40,000 of whom 60% have criminal convictions or pending criminal charges. The data also confirms Borders Tsar Tom Holman's recent statements that June saw a record-setting number of immigration arrests with 43,000 arrests, which is much higher than January and February when the surge in Minnesota was in effect.

July is on place to potentially break the June record. So this is the thing that's so frustrating about this, right? Because it's like, okay, well, we're looking at this. It's like, wow, amazing. The ICE numbers and the deportation numbers are up quite a little bit. It's like, well, they are up from definitely where they've been in recent numbers, but is this actually on pace for where we want to be and what we actually need done in this country? So let's just see. We're halfway through the year here, basically, 356,000 deportations. That's not even a million a year. So, I mean, if we want to sit around and pat ourselves on the back and say, oh, well, we've got these deportations that are ramping up quite a bit. And then if you look at the comparison with the deportations that we had last year

versus the ones that we've gotten this year now because we passed that one great big beautiful bill and ICE now has more funding than entire European countries' armies is what we were heard. That was the line that people were throwing at us last year is that ICE now is one of the most heavily armed militaries in the entire world thanks to this bill and has it had a increase in deportations to match that?

I don't think anybody who's serious can really make that argument here. And basically what this comes down to, like what I was talking about political capital, right? Is that the base actually wants mass deportations. That was Trump's number one electoral mandate was to secure the demographics of the United States and deport all of the legal immigrants. But again, we were covering this during the election, right?

It's like no matter how many times CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, and all these people tried to twist their polling a little bit to say, oh, well, what kind of immigrants do you want to deport it? It was still the vast majority of Americans wanted all illegal immigrants deported. Not the ones with just criminal records. All illegals deported. That's almost 50 million people at least basically at this point. Okay.

That was what they were elected to do. They cannot do that now because the world economy is teetering on the edge of a knife because of this retarded war for the Israelis in Iran that the Israelis just announced this week, no, we are not interested in fighting along with the Americans and is risking Israeli lives. American-Iranian special operation. They literally just said Israel doesn't want to die for Israel. Fuck you guys. You lie us into a war.

The world economy is teetering on the edge of a knife. And now because they actually make the mass deportation numbers that we need in this country to get where we want to be, they have to start raiding work sites. They have to start deport in punishing businesses that employ illegal immigrants. And guess what? That is going to make the economic situation untenable. They will not do it. The Trump administration does not want.

the housing market to crash, does not want the AI tech bubble to burst, does not want the economy to take a huge dip. It's just like these are all connected issues, okay? And it's just so frustrating to people who say like, oh, well, with these people you win. If we give them the win on foreign policy, we'll get what we want domestically. That never happens. It has never happened. Went on a nice rant there. Yeah. Take it away, gentlemen. I mean, broken record here over here. Yeah, ice needs to be out.

the people they need to be deporting are the most violent people and tracking them down. Because the only way to get these people to leave is to make life unlivable for them here. You have to, I can't believe I'm saying this again. You have to make it so that businesses make it illegal for businesses to hire these people, to the point that you take the business away from them and you auction it to somebody else. You make it, you make it illegal for anyone to house them to the point where we're going to take your apartment, we're apartment building, we're going to take your house. We'll, we'll, we'll friggin nationalize this stuff.

We'll give it to the city or whatever. You have to cut all aid to them. If somebody is bleeding out and they're illegal and they go to the fucking hospital, you say, no, you cannot be. That's the only way this gets done. It's the only way this gets done. Yeah, ice needs to be out there gathering up people that you know will not leave no matter what. But you must make, if you want mass, they have to self-deport. And the only way you're going to do that is to make life unlivable for them.

To basically make it so that any, create a culture that when anyone sees them, they look upon them as a leper. They treat them like lepers. You have to cut them off. You got to cut them off of all government sponsors. You have to cut them off of the hospitals. You have to cut them off of the schooling. You have to cut them off of business loans. You have to tax remittances.

You have to do all of these things, okay, to actually get to where we need to get to. I am done with people pissing on me and trying to tell me it's rain. This has been happening for months now. It is amazing that the southern border is more or less completely close. It is amazing that we are getting basically, you know, 750,000 deportation. a year if I'm going to be charitable. Okay. It's cool that we're getting those.

All right. It's cool that some of our guys have got employment and ice and are learning some tactics on how to deport people and conduct immigration raids or what have you and all that stuff. Okay. All that stuff is awesome, but it's entirely insufficient from where we need to be. Okay. It's just like, you know, and also, yeah.

I mean, here, just start with this. No remittances. I mean, it's the only thing that this government will not fucking tax. They tax everything. If you want to build on your own land, you have to get a fucking permit. But they won't, they won't tax remittances. They won't tax them 95% or 100%. I mean, come on.

Give me a fucking break here. They don't want these people out of here. This just basically seems like a show at this point. they keep trying to do this walk the tightrope thing where they want to appeal to the actual base of the Republican Party who are boomers who all their money is trapped in asset bubbles. And I'm sorry, but all these asset bubbles have to pop if we were ever going to actually fix the problems underlying our economy. This economy is fake. It's artificial. It's propped up by cheap labor in foreign countries and those that we import over here.

It's propped up by bullshit financial markets that don't. produce any actual real products and it's just people funneling money away to avoid it being taxed in one way or another okay the entire economy is fake and they don't want it to fucking crash and burn because then people are going to say oh well trump crash the economy and it's like now if you actually sat down with people and said that listen here i mean this is why a lot of us have to have sung quite a bit of praise for rupert low to be honest because the guy just tells it like it is like listen here we're in a really bad way we're going to have to suffer a little bit, but we're going to have to buckle down. We're going to have to take on

this heroic journey as men, and we're going to have to deal with the hard times and these problems that need to be addressed. And the Republican Party refuses to do that. All their donors will lose a great big chunk of their money if this economy takes a tank. And it has to. The economy has to crash in order for the issues to actually be fixed. We cannot live this way anymore. We cannot live this way of every 10 years the business cycle comes through and we have a giant burst in the economy. Okay. We had a huge one in the 90s with the dot-com bubble. We had a huge one in 2008 with the great financial crisis. We had another one that was brought on by COVID, which was entirely made up just so they could

rig an election in 2020. And so a couple of boomers could eke out a few more months because of a bad flu season. And now we're on the teetering edge of another one of these bursts. They're coming quicker and quicker now. Okay. Another one of these bubbles are about to burst with this giant AI inflation, you know, which like people can listen to my streams I've done with Aaron Clary and Chad Elkins on his channel, the Elkins accounting. where we've talked about AI in great depth. And like, listen here, man, at the very, very least, it's amazing when you listen to these boomers.

I think like 85% of jobs are going to be replaced by AI in a couple of years. I'm looking at this. Like, have you guys ever used AI once? It's like, are you kidding me? What does, like, Ford Motor Company need AI for? What does, like, your local, like, tax office need, like, fucking AI for? Like, this is just ridiculous how everybody is injecting this shit in here. It's like, I go to fucking Hilton honors, like, for the hotel service,

and they're talking about like AI or something ship. It's like, why? Why? What do you need this stuff in here for? And it's just to artificially inflate all these ridiculous dude bro tech companies that are just getting fat on government contracts and the government dime. It's like this bubble's going to burst. There'll be like two or three companies that make it out in the end. And they will probably have a very niche application and use and very particular fields.

Okay. It's just so frustrating because we know the actual problems that are basing the young people in this country who are the future voter base of, you know, Democrat or Republican. And it's just very, very aggravating to see how the left is just prime. It's just like prime time for them to come in and fight on all of these issues that actually affect real people. You know, even though the leftists, you know, if Kamala Harris was president right now, right, she would be giving Israel everything she wants to, okay?

Like, let's not to loot ourselves at that. But it's, this is a very easy rhetorical tactic for the left to come in in the midterms and in the next election coming up just to say, well, look, what happened? You put the Republicans in charge and they give all of our money away to Israel. We start another war and the economy sucks. Vote for the left. And it's like, you know,

the Republicans do it to themselves, man. They do it to themselves. While you gentlemen were talking, I whipped out that nifty little device that got me banned from the Holocaust Memorial, my calculator. And just to put these numbers in perspective, let's be very generous.

356,000. Let's say that's only half a year. It's not. There's only a few months left in fiscal year, but we'll say it's half. That's $712,000 every year. And the Bureau of Labor Statistics captured $45 million coming in under a Biden. So $45 million divided by $712,000, 63 years is what it would take to deport just the Biden wave. We're so back, baby. You know, you know because we're being negative on a live stream, That means that Trump can't do his job, right?

Oh my God. Yep. The OGC has such amazing power. We have cratered the Trump administration's ability to mass deport more people, guys. We're truing it out and being panicking on a live stream. That means that Trump cannot do his job. Yeah. What a fucking joke, man.

Absolute fucking joke. It's like, again, you know, I'm happy. I'm happy that all these people are no longer in my country. Okay. There's just not remotely enough of them. And it's like, listen here, man, we all knew what time it was. We all knew what time it was before the election in 2024. We knew what needed to be done.

There was an opportunity that we had where we could have done what needed to be done. And unfortunately, the Trump administration had many opportunities to pull the trigger and they didn't do it. And now it's too late. Now it's too late. The political capital has been squandered on this war. We just tried to get out of it. and apparently we got dragged right back into it because, you know, through a combination of the fact that we can't stop the Israelis from constantly bombing the Lebanese

because just Israel gets whatever the fuck it wants at all times and the domestic situation over here where the last people who were actually supporting the Trump administration on this war were turning tail and running because they're just all-on-out Zionists. I'm like, oh my God, you're going to try and make peace with the Ayatollah. You're going to try and make peace with the Iranians? mind you Israel is not rejoining us

in this endeavor such a joke it's literally like the small little guy who nobody likes goes into a bar punches a guy in the face and then immediately runs away

and hopes for his friends to figure out the situation you know meanwhile he steals the friend's credit card and pays for his drinks on that guy's tab you know

so maddening yeah But hey guys, you know, we got a simp for the administration a little bit more. And, you know, if we suck their dicks and become the Trump defense force on Twitter a little bit harder, then maybe we'll get what we want. Instead of actually organizing a real life and getting power, which is the only thing these people ever respond to. It's how Franco won. Everyone sent him very nice letters, and then he won. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, all those all those podcasters in the, in the space.

feign out over Franco. Oh, man. Luckily, luckily Franco didn't listen to him and just did what he needed to do. Yeah. Well, as, as frustrating as all of this is,

okay, we still have another story to discuss. All right. And these are the new numbers, new economic numbers as relates to the American job market. This one was a doozy when I saw this. Number one, I didn't know the not part,

like the labor force participation rate was so low already like as it is but then like when i saw these numbers it was like how it's creeping up it's like holy fuck you know the the number is that high already and it's gone even more i just take a look at this graph here right so this is not in labor force participation rates right and we're looking at that is hundreds of millions of people on the left hand side of this graph right here and of course on your on your other axis there you've got the years so if you look back now from basically till 1970 1980 you know the line is pretty stable line dips up a little bit from between 1980 and 1990 we get to the dot com bubble in the mid 90s and the in the graph starts to shoot up we start to get them a little bit higher and

higher and higher okay 2001 after september 11th it goes up even higher again okay war in iraq war in ighanistan we get to the 2008 financial crisis okay here we go line goes up even more you'll notice how it's just a never-ending trend of the line going up right in this regard there's like no dips like basically anywhere, right? We get all the way up to 2020. Our huge spike because of COVID-19, it dips down just slightly afterwards because a couple more people were allowed to get back

into the workforce after being told that you can't go to your job because grandma, who's 99 and a half, is going to die from a flu unless you, you know, stop going to your job, apparently. And then the line dips down just a little bit, but then we get to today. The Warren Iran kicks off. The Trump administration comes back in the office.

We're not addressing any of the major economic crisis going on in the United States. And now the number of labor force people not in the labor force, 100 million people, which is by like, you know, the official statistics of the United States, you know, like, well, of course, we got to see what the census says in the end, right? But that's like approaching one third of the population of the United States. You know, like that's what, like 25, 30 percent, you know, of the population of the United States is just not looking for work, not not working in the labor force just crazy so 100 million people right and now we're at above COVID levels yeah somebody um someone in the chat mentioned that um yeah and we need all these

illegals and h1bs when like people who are supposed to be here have don't have a job I mean, this is this is a control demolition. They're doing this on purpose. There's no other. There's no other answer. Yeah. Can you just think of a more perfect line ever of

we have 100 million immigrants in this country, either illegal or otherwise, and then we have 100 million people out of the workforce? I don't know what you all are complaining about. Line go up. Look at that. It's great. up yeah exactly also again it's just the more how many rocks make them out in here guys you know

we're seeing all this evidence you know we just saw new statistics that were coming out just the other day that it's now four and ten uh people in between 20 and 30 are living with a parent it's like 40% of our young population are living at home because they can't afford rent they can't afford a house the housing market we have more people age 40 buying homes than people age 20 for the first time ever. It's just insane. I hear reports and stories from all of our guys through various OGC chapters

who are struggling to find jobs, go through four rounds of interviews, and then get told, oh, well, you're not having this. You're not getting this job. But look, guys, the stock market's at an all time high. Fuck, fuck all of you. And then you'll have people say, well, you know,

you just got to give Trump time to get done, do what he goes to. I mean, the midterms are coming up. I mean, I'm not 100% convinced that, you know, they're going, the midterms are going to be as bad as they historically are for the incumbent. But if it is, I mean, well, what you're basically like, say the Republicans lose the house, you're going to have two years of hyper lawfare and all sorts of committees being called to bring this person in front of. what are you going to be able to get done? I mean, I mean,

except more foreign ventures. Or it, or it's just more of the same. Yeah. And if it's more of the same of what we're having now, I mean, even if gains are made and the country is better

in 2028 than it was in 2024, whoever gets elected can reverse that all like on the first day. yeah we we know what and by the and by the let me just say one more thing from somebody that I trust who's been down to the border of the southern border the southern border is not closed

and most of the people who are walking over it are Chinese I'm not one of these China hawk people I mean I know China's a dangerous fucking country if they decide they want to be worse than they are right now. Yeah, we're going to get to China later here. But the border, the border is not closed. If the admin continues on this track,

they are going to lose the midterms because of all this bullshit. And if they lose the midterms, there's a good chance that Trump could get impeached. You'd be the first president removed from office. And I don't know about you. I don't actually want that. That would be not great for us. And I can't think of anything more treacherous.

to Trump than walking him into this death trap. Again, it's just the same things we've been saying all the time with this, man. It's like we're not pointing out these things because we like have like some case of like TDS like some like faggity leftists or something like that, right? We're doing this because we know, we see the mistakes being made and everybody else is just interested in blowing smoke up people's asses in order to get one inch closer to Washington, D.C., so they get get their ego stroked. and maybe get some kind of permanent job at one of these, like, think tanks.

It's just so shameful, so shameful how people are behaving. But just like for their own ego and their own self-interest and their own wants to be influencers or what have you or to be important, they're just pushing this thing along. The mistakes are here. We can all see them. They are easily avoidable. We can do the hard things that need to be done to save this country,

to save the youth, to save the people of this country, that actually matter. And we just keep stepping on landmines time and time and time again to the point where we're just standing here like, okay, like, the TDS arguments are actually starting to make even more and more sense now. It's like, no, originally I wouldn't really give a shit if Don Jr., like, you know, basically through fraudulent means, like pumped and dumped a shit coin basically. Like, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't really give a shit about that kind of stuff.

I wouldn't really care that the administration is charging $50,000 just to get into a meeting with Donald Trump. And it's like, okay, like, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't really give a shit about that. Like, if you were actually doing things in my interest, I understand, like, wheels need to be greased and people, you know, there has to be some corruption in the system. But, man, like, when you really look down to it, this Trump administration, as it relates to, like, embezzling money and being, like, corrupt is, like, really, really high. And it's really, really up there. And it's like, you know, I wouldn't care if we were actually getting things that we wanted. But now it's like the chickens are going to eventually come home to roost on this one, whether it's after these midterms and potentially an impeachment comes or in 2028 afterwards. It's like, you know, it's going to be really, really hard to be here, be like, on the Trump defense force at that point because it's like, well, dude, like, what did you do?

We handed you the electoral majority that Republicans up to the point in 2024 haven't seen since Nixon or Reagan. It's like we deliver that to you. We worked so hard. You know, like people have given up everything for Donald Trump in the last 10 years since he descended the golden escalator. You know, people have lost their families. They've lost their marriages. They've lost their jobs. They've lost their social connections.

Some people like Charlie Kirk have fucking died. And it's like people have given everything to the Trump administration over the last 10 years. And it's like, what are we getting for it at the very end? It's so frustrating. And again, we're not saying this because like for some, like, for some, like, like, you know, die in the wool, like secret, like, lip tards or something like this, you know, and like, and we want to be part of Trump derangement syndrome. It's just like, guys, like, this guy is going to leave the scene sooner as opposed to later, you know, like, whether it's through the midterms, whether they can inch their way by and just like, I don't know, like lazily, like, you know, basically lame duck his way through the rest of this presidency and then we get into 2028 and then he's gone basically for forever from the political scene. it's like time is running out man

if you aren't sounding the alarms about this your decimus brutus encouraging caesar go to the senate today yeah exactly yeah i i mean i just i i don't the only explanation that i have the only i have two explanations for

um why people are still like is so insanely trusting the plan that they're willing to attack other people and threaten other people or say that the administration needs to crack down on podcasters

which basically means to arrest them or to destroy them financially is what is what you know one particular scumbag you know implied yeah debanking

yeah debanking podcasters but the but the um but the um the only two things i could think is is they're in this for themselves there it's complete self-interest or they're so fucking scared of like trunes and leftists that they're they just have to hang this is where this is like their only hope which to me is delusional you're just

you're delusional if you think you're somebody i mean batman's not fucking the bill the billionaire superhero there's no fucking billionaire superheroes you have to fucking do this yourselves unless you're just such a fucking complete grifter that like red hawk said you want you're trying to get a position in a think tank somewhere or whatever or whomever or you're just you know your friend your friends won't be friends with you anymore. This scumbag who like, you know, that Tucker had on and Orrin had on this, I mean, this is a guy who is basically being paid to be hyper online and act like, like a Twitter troll in real life and say stupid shit like,

well, you said that this could possibly start World War III. And because World War III hasn't started, why should anybody listen to what you have to say? Fuck you. Fuck you, you scumbag piece of shit. The guy is so low IQ, too. I mean, the craziest thing is, oh, aren't these people supposed to have high IQs? He's a fucking idiot. He's a fucking idiot.

Inbred, Sheddle, scum. Behind closed doors, the power player knows. that this ship is going down and they're trying to loot the treasury as quickly as they can before it does. It's certainly what it looks like, you know, from where I'm sitting. And you know, like, I mean, listen,

like from the perspective, again, like I was saying earlier, it's like, listen, Donald Trump didn't have to set foot in this political arena. Okay, he didn't have to do this. He didn't have to become president. He could have just kept his job as Celebrity Apprentice on NBC,

and enjoy the rest of his life appearing in Zoolander movies and getting quoted by other famous like celebrities and whatnot, okay? You know, and I understand from like this guy's perspective of my businesses have been destroyed, my families have been attacked,

I've been subpoenaed by Letitia James and I just had to pay out millions of dollars to E. Jean Carroll who literally just lied about me in New York because New York is so corrupt, they're coming after me. Yeah, I'm going to get mine. Yeah, we're going to pump a shit coin. Yeah, we're going to have Melania write a book.

Yeah, we're going to have a really shitty movie come out, you know, and try and make a bunch of money that way. We're going to do a bunch of insider training. We're going to get ours. We're going to secure our family's legacy. And then we're just going to get out. And it's like, you know, from that perspective, I can understand. But also, that doesn't mean I have to agree with it, especially when I'm not actually

getting what I want. Now, eventually, again, I keep saying this, man. It's like, you know, there will be a day. And that day might be coming sooner than people think. Donald Trump will not be in the position that he's in to secure his legacy. And that might come right after November in the midterms as the Republicans get a huge beating and then we start getting impeachment inquiries again. Or it might come in 2008 when he actually has to leave office.

And then it's just open season at that point. You can go right back to law fair or Letitia James or whoever coming right up your ass once again. I mean, we know what these people are like. They're never going to stop. And then when that moment finally comes, comes if the legacy of the second Trump administration is, oh, well, we ran on not starting a new war, we ran on mass deportations, we ran on fixing the economy, and we went 0 for three on all of those. And then it's going to be in the position where I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this?

Am I supposed to be like, oh, Trump is like so great? Or am I going to have to be the guy who is left here to pick up the pieces and try and start in Americans first movement? And like, what are we going to do? you know if it's just like i can actually see where some people are coming from in the republican party who are still trying to be like you know not necessarily cuddled right up to trump because like after 2028 like what are you going to do you know is there going to be anyone to appeal to you know with with trump basically like the actual like people part of his base like we're not getting

what we wanted we're not getting what we voted for we're not getting what we expected you know the donor class boomers are getting all the wealth in the economy right now and all the Israelis are getting everything that way they want in the Zionists by starting another new war meanwhile the average American is getting screwed on all ends of the spectrum we're importing illegals to work our jobs we're importing Indians legally to work our jobs we're outsourcing our jobs to other countries we're bringing in AI to make it harder for people to work in white collar work gas is going up energy is going up utilities are going up there's crime all over the place none of people are being deported

it's like who's gonna stand on that legacy at that point it's just and it all could have been avoided it all could have been avoided so many times over it's just very very frustrating and it's very sad

the good news is we have a bunch of white men who are young healthy eager radicalized don't have a lot of free time because they can't get a job have a lot of free time because they can't get a woman and nothing to lose yeah very true you know the white pill here is that we're all we have and we're also all we need so and and

those guys you're talking about there Doug the people we're talking about will be the first ones to try to get them arrested or turn them in or um you know yeah they're just scum oh yeah Absolutely. But victory is inevitable. History is on our side. Yeah, at least there's that. At least there is that. The question just becomes like, how hard is the road going to be? And it looks like it's going the harder way, unfortunately. All right. Why don't we move on to our final story? Again, like, now, we're going to get on this one again. It's just we're focusing on the wrong things here, guys. We're focusing on the wrong things of the administration.

We got to talk about this address that the president had last week. They were actually talking about this while we were on stream last week, talking about Lindsey Graham. We had Kevin Deanna on the show. But the President Trump made this great big announcement showing that he has proof of the 2020 rigging that was going on during the election and that the Chinese, the Chinese had access to over 280,000 voter registrations all throughout the country. It's like this was the big problem with the 2020 election.

And it's like, okay, where to start with this? Okay. Again, we are not some scumbag shit eating, you know, leftists here who, you know, want to say like, oh, 2020 actually wasn't stolen or anything like that. No, it's stupid. They obviously rigged the election. They obviously did it to get Donald Trump out of power. They changed a myriad of various election laws to the point where any normal person would say, oh, that's obviously cheating. but then the Democrats can sit back on their heels and say,

well, actually, we changed the laws, so everything we did is actually legal. So, I mean, to any normal semblance of playfair or election integrity, all of us would say this is cheating, but the Democrats change the laws so they make their cheating legal. So, but like we were saying earlier, as Doug was pointing out, the legality of a law does not change the morality of it. Anyway, so we all know the 2020 election was stolen, okay?

Do I believe that the Chinese had access to voter roles and voter registrations in some way or another. Yeah, I believe that too. Do I believe that maybe they had a hand in, you know, rigging votes in certain directions and certain key races? Yeah, I'm open to that idea as well, okay? But my biggest problem with this is, once again, we are not addressing the great big elephant in the room.

And the great big elephant in the room here is that no matter how little or how great in effect the Chinese had on our foreign elections, okay, the biggest threat is the fucking. Democrats that are stuffing ballots and throwing them in the mailbox or literally importing them via helicopter in races like with, God, what's that fucking Spencer Pratt? The Democrats are the problem here. It's not the fucking Chinese. It's not the fucking Russians. Not the fucking Canadians. It's not anybody else. But the fucking Democrats that are bringing our elections in the United States. So why are we talking about the goddamn Chinese

here? Why are we focusing on this? And also, if this is like so amazing and so groundbreaking or what have you. Does anybody think for a fucking second that any of the Republicans in the House or in the Senate are one inch closer to signing the Save Act because the Chinese have been found to be involved with our elections? It's like what this looks like to me is a bunch of winging and whining once again calling for the Deu Saks Machina to come in and say, well, we need secure elections. It's like, motherfucker, you're the people in charge. You have to do this. You have to be the ones to secure the elections. You have to be the ones to secure the voter rules. This is like literally, step one to maintaining power going into the midterms here and in the presidential election going forward. If people on the truester side want to talk about how, oh, well, we actually need years and potentially decades to fix all the problems in this country, like, okay, I can be somewhat sympathetic to that. I'm all four diversity of tactics. I've said it multiple times before. I could be open to that argument. But at the very least, if you're going to tell me that we need years and decades to fix the problems that are going on this country, the number fucking one thing

you need to solve is secure the elections, prevent the Democrats from cheating, prevent the Democrats from importing more voters. This is basic step, literally number one, and they cannot get it done. They cannot pass it. And while this seems like to me is more signaling towards China for us to go have another foreign adventure of some kind, even though we just got our asses handed to us in Iran, so frustrating again we have we we we know what needs to be done here but we're signaling it in a way that again it's just whinging go ahead p what what's what do they say is the whole rationale for all of these adventures outside of the country and not getting anything done domestically why do we arrest maduro but not not arrest um waltz the governor the governor of minnesota

because he can't, he's not willing to do anything domestically. But if he says, oh, look over there, you know, you can, it's easier for him to say it was a foreign power than to say, you know, than to nail it down as something in this country, because apparently a president cannot do anything in this country. You can't, you know, you can't arrest the mayor of Minneapolis. You can't arrest the mayor of the governor of Minnesota. You can't roll into whole neighborhoods and just arrest, start arresting criminals.

You can't do anything. So, oh, look over there. And, you know, at least we're, you know, we know, we know, we know the election was stolen in 2020. and we know it was the Democrats because they bragged about it in Time magazine. But no, because we can't get anything done here, aren't willing to get anything done here. Our hands are tied by the judges. No, look over there.

There, those guys, those guys. Well, if China stole our elections, the very minimum, we should stop handing out visas to them, right? Yeah, yeah, stop having their students. students in our country and like just again it's just it's the same thing I've been talking about before it's just again trying to make an argument to appeal to the rules and it's like dude like I swear to god we just need to stick the populist delusion and every single person who's running for politics just stick that book in their hand now this is just like required reading for you okay you can't

just sit here on the line asking for the ref to come in with the red card to intervene on your behalf basically. It's like you guys literally are the people in charge. You are the sovereign who makes the exception. Well, we, uh, instead of appealing to a foreigner's book, we can appeal straight to our great American patriot, Sam Francis, who wrote

an entire essay on this called Beautiful Losers. Who constantly appeal to proceduralism is why they're not able to get anything done. Not that the Democrats ever do, they just do shit. But, you know, we as the beautiful losers, conservatives, we have to

do what the rules say and the rules say we lose. Pretty much, man. Yeah. Again, like, the other thing too is that if you fixate on China in this regard, this gives room for the Democrats to counteract and say that, oh, well, the Chinese were actually only evolved in this very narrowly defined outcome

as it relates to this election. Like, let's just say, for example, like China had a hand in rigging the, you know, state election of like Washington or something, you know, or like Seattle. Like the mayor election in Seattle or something. The Chinese are on the Pacific. They have a lot of influence in Vancouver.

Seattle's right there. Let's just go with that for the sake of the argument. Okay. Let's say like in that very niche circumstances, the Chinese were responsible for this. Okay, that's obviously bad. But then the Democrats can just go back and say, well, here's a very basic maneuver that doesn't actually address the issues with voter rules and

the broader scope of fixing American elections on the local and the federal level. But, you know, they said that China's involved. So we're going to do a performative thing of making sure China doesn't do this again. And there you go, problem solved. It's like, no, no. This is this is not how these things work, man. This is not how these things work at all.

You can't just appeal to. And this is also like how you know about this because Trump, Trump had this great big fucking speech on Thursday. Okay. CNN and NBC made a big deal to not show it on TV or what happened. you, not stream it or what have you. And that basically was the talk for like 24 hours. The rest of this just fell completely flat on its ass, like a fucking lead balloon. Nobody's talking about it. Nobody cares about it. It's not in the news cycle anymore. When literally like the president of

the United States came on national television and said our number one of our number one geopolitical rivals is responsible for wreaking our elections. And nobody gives a shit. And why does nobody give a shit? Because we know it's bullshit. We know it's bullshit deep down. Okay. The Democrats are the fucking problem. It's not the fucking Chinese. Even the SAVE Act, everyone obsesses over the SAVE Act, if that's going to fix everything. Okay, well, what's your plan for the SAVE Act when California ignores you? What are you going to do then? Well, if you do have a plan for that, you should probably just do that right now, unless you're telling me that election frauds legal.

And if it is illegal, then you can do that right now, actually. You don't even need the SAVE Act. You can just stop them. You just need the will to do so. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, and again, it's just we're talking about all these grand things, right? We're talking about all of these, you know, initiatives that all the plan trussers are still telling us are right around the horizon, guys. Like the mass deportation is about to kick in.

We're about to deport 35 million people within the next year. We're going to stop this war and Iran. We're going to fix the economy. We're going to deport all these people. We're going to get these tariffs going. And then you look at it on the face of it and Trump hasn't defied a single judge. It's like, what are we doing here? What are we doing here?

Well, I mean, I think the problem is, is again, I will say that we're talking about it. And us talking about it instead we were taking Trump's power away to do anything. Regardless of the podcasters of the problem. Speaking of judges, though, regardless of what your opinions may or may not be on Lincoln and FDR under their rule, Supreme Court justices were terrified of being arrested and then ruled in their favor. That's what we need. We need all these judges to be absolutely terrified of defying the president. Yep. I don't care what it takes. Like they can have car accidents. They can have CP on their hard drives. Find something. How about just importing a bunch of Haitians into

Amy Coney Barrett's neighborhood. They could go on play dates with her kids. How about that? Into her house. Yeah. But you know what it happened, right? If he did decide to, if he did decide to go full Lincoln,

you know, a bunch of lawyers, Whitsteins and Berg's just start going crazy. And, you know, then they'll just back down. I think they would be happier in Israel. That too.

Somebody in the chat says the deep podcaster state. Yeah, exactly. That's who's running it. Yes. Candice Owens has a magical microphone through which she can control the entire state apparatus. We must learn this power from her. Yeah, exactly.

We need to have a Osama bin Laden-style raid on Candice Owensin's residence, and take her microphone from her because apparently it has the power to control the largest country in the most powerful country in the face of there. Bananas. Absolutely bananas. All right. I've had enough of these topics today.

I've had enough talking about the stuff. Let's get through these super chats and go. Anyone else have any final things to say? Well, just, well, you know what? I do have one final thing that I will say. Just can't do you right now here. Okay. talking about all these issues that we're facing with our country.

We're talking about the economy. We're talking about immigration. We're talking about the foreign wars. We're talking about Israel more than likely being fully integrated with our intelligence services. Wonderful. But when it all comes down to it, it's like, what are we going to do? Just sit and roll over and die? No, we're not.

We're men of the OGC. This is why these in-person networks are just so important. Imagine in the future the next administration comes along and the ADL gets asked. access to flock camera information after they cross-referenced your verification on Twitter. We find Joe Blow here lives in Tennessee in Nashville, and his Ford F-150 went through this intersection on Johnny Cash Highway or whatever the hell they got over there. And he also went through this one at this time. You're going to need a group of guys to have your back.

group of guys who can support you through these hard times, people you can find employment with, find shelter with, find camaraderie with. We're all we have, but we're also all we need. You know, we're either, we're in this together,

or we're certainly going to all hang separately. So everyone should join their local OGC chapter. All right, let's get through these super chats, guys, and call on a night. So, scrolling right up to the top, we have our good friend, Mr. Salon Snake,

1964, you know, for some reason, you know, like, everybody always talks about, like, you save things into your phone and then all of a sudden you get a bunch of ads for it and what have you, even though you didn't type it in. Recently in my YouTube feed, I've been getting a lot of recommendations for, like, Metal Gear Solid Clips, and, like, the only game I've ever played in this franchise was Metal Gear Solid 5, Phantom Pain. And it's like, why are all these, like, you know, Metal Gear Solid stuff getting thrown in my YouTube feed at this point?

And I think it's honestly because my phone is listening to me, say, Solid Snake, you know, every week when he's superchats us. So it's your fault, sir. It's your fault that I'm getting clips of a big boss and Osolot, dueling it out with each other. But anyway, Solid Snake, 1964, has once again stuck behind enemy lines to get the first Super Chat in. He says, Evening Jens. Thankfully, I think my town is too poor to afford flock cameras, so I'm good on that front. I prefer my phone spying on me anyway. See? Look, like the, yep, see, he's in on it. Salute. But you are a real American, sir, so you get a real American.

Real Americans. I love that. I love that. Good part of the soundboard. It's a good one. All right. We got Jezza for 20 bucks says, thanks guys. Well, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Seasider sends us 10 bucks and a salute as he does every week. Thank you, Cisider. You're a real American. Real Americans. Yeah, real Americans. City break dancer, man. Somebody I always look forward to reading out their super chat names on here. Thank you. For five bucks, he says, about to meet my newborn nephew tomorrow. Can't wait to tell him all about section 219.

I let him know he better pull himself up by his bootstraps. Oh, man. Well, city break dates are man. You are not a boomer, sir. So I can tell he's not a boomer because the superchat wasn't sent in all caps. So you're not a boomer. Don't become one, sir. The American Southwest, our good friend, Mr. Thomas Wayne Riley.

You guys can see him on Mondays on American Spirits. And if I do dare say, Mr. American Southwest has the most charming accent of anyone in the entire scene. So my hat's off to you, sir. And it's just a great man all around in general. Great guy. For five bucks, he says, can't listen tonight, but I look forward to hearing this tomorrow. Godspeed, gentlemen.

Will Godspeed to you, sir. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's see. We got Bobby Bob for 20 bucks, says, we will be in oppressed, persecuted minority. This is unavoidable, and the boomers will cheer it on. That's why OGC is needed.

Stay strong. Stay together. yes I mean the theme of the national conference this year was together or separately of course playing off that famous Benjamin Franklin quote at the signing of the Declaration of Independence no it's true it's true joining the local chapter guys they're growing all the time I'm amazed you know in the various like meetings I'm in every week listening to what our guys are doing in their local areas it's it's amazing stuff it's very white feeling you know I wouldn't you know like all of us here like like Pete myself Charlemagne, Doug, Albaran Quinn, everybody you see here on the OJC network, right? It's like, we wouldn't be in this thing if we actually didn't believe in it. It's like, I can tell you this right now.

We're not making billions off this. I'll tell you that much. You know, we're not in this for the money. I'll certainly tell you that. So I am hopeful for the future when I see our guys and what a bunch of smart, smart, intelligent white guys can do

when they're all together in one room. that's where my hope is for the future. It's certainly not in Washington, D.C. Ballaro 393 for $10. Trump and the GOP should have had a constitutional amendment ready to repeal the 14th, even if it's just anchoring at this point.

It's at least a litmus test, and it beats just winding on truth social. Well, I mean, winding on truth social is basically all the Trump administration does at this point. So, maddening. But, all right. Do you guys have any final thoughts

before we wrap it up this evening? No, I'd just be repeating myself. All right. All right. Very good. Despite everything that we talked about, I've never been more white-billed. The network is rowing.

The things that our guys are achieving is absolutely incredible. And the normies are tired of this. They are done. The alt-right sufficiently radicalized the normies. They did that. We are so there. The historical currents are with us. It's amazing.

Yeah, yeah, that is that is very true. No, I mean, just the, the, the most white-pilling thing about this whole space that we occupy, okay, is that our enemies basically need to have the cheat codes for unlimited money, unlimited propaganda, and unlimited military arms, and they are still losing on this front. And that's what's really amazing is that when it really comes down to it, we truly only have to win once, the right wing, really only needs to win once. and eventually just through either sheer dumb luck or through the law of averages and the law of numbers, we will eventually get there. And I'm becoming more and more convinced of that as the days go by,

as I see the quality of character that we are attracting in our orbit and that I contrast that with every other right-wing organization or, God forbid, like any of the left-wing ones. It's like, no, I agree with Doug here. I actually am very hopeful. for the future, you know,

despite what they come. I do have a question for Doug. Is that Trafficant in your, it most certainly is, sir. That's so fucking based. Appropriate for tonight's conversation as well.

Absolutely. All right. And we got one final super chat under the wire here. We got Volpus persona, frequent super chatter, frequent guy in the chat, sends us a salute for five bucks. Thank you, sir.

You are a real American. Real Americans. Yes, yes indeed. Real American. All right, cool. Mr. Pete, where can people find more of your stuff and anything you have to promote, sir? Actually, just got finished listening to your most recent thought crime syndicate episode earlier today. So people should be listening to that.

But what else do you have to promote? Oh, the Pekanino Show and Pete Substack. Um, that's it released, um, Mr. Bagby and I have, we took a little hiatus from the, uh, road to the Civil War series and, uh, we're picking it back up. Even got another, even got another episode on top of the new one I just dropped tonight. Get ready to go.

Man, I mean, the workload that you put out, Pete, it's like nothing else. People really should be subscribing and listening. And, uh, every time you get to talk to George Bagby is a treat, man. Like that man is just an absolute wealth of knowledge. It's crazy. I learned something new every time I talk to Bagby. Even like where we're in person, we're just like walking past each other, like an event or something. You know, if we have like any like two minutes to sit down and actually talk about something,

I will learn something new from that, man. It really is amazing. He is, he really is one of the best of us. That's for damn sure. Yeah. Here we go. We got Kurt Rescher for five bucks coming in the last second. Greetings from Hoosierland.

Keep up the great work. Well, we're not stopping any time soon. So thank you very much. sir. All right, Doug, you got nothing to promote. You're not doing anything. Nope. All right, well, thank you for coming on the show, sir.

And if you want to hear more of Doug and his base takes, you should be subscribing to the OGC and becoming a channel member at the Standing Back, Standing By tier, where you guys can listen to myself, Mr. Charlemagne, Mr. Doug here, Mr. Mandrell, Mr. Alvaron Quinn, as we play Warhammer, and our current campaign right now, is us destroying the evil Chinese. So that's a fun one.

You know, you just got to be on your toes. So sometimes we do these streams at scheduled times. Sometimes we do them at wee hours of the morning. You just never know. You've got to be on your toes. So be subscribed over there. For myself, I appeared on my good friend Jack Napier's channel with Red Evening last Friday.

So you guys can go listen to that. I was also on recently with Mr. Captain Capitalism himself, Aaron Clary and my good friend Mr. Chad Elkins. He'll listen to that show from last week where we were talking about AI and the tax industry and whatnot. And then also I will be making an appearance soon on Timeline Earth. Our good friends over there at TLE, the number one men in news. So be sure to listen to that pretty soon. I'll be recording with Berto tomorrow.

Oh, nice. Yeah, we're recording on Monday. TLE, isn't that Burden show? Yeah, yeah. Oh, uh-oh. Uh-oh. They're not going to say in that. So, all right, well, be on the lookout for that.

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