The Pete Quiñones Show - Pony Express Radio 08/13/26 - Abuela Occupied Congress

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

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Welcome to another episode of Pony Express Radio. You know, we really should start a competition between our various chapters to have like the best trailer for the regional conferences or what have you. You know, everybody needs to, you know, start a friendly competition amongst each other. But, you know, we're back to read the news once again on another episode. Mr. P. Quinonez is back once again. How are you, sir? Doing good, Red Hawk. How are you? Doing well. Doing well.

And Mr. Sonahaster is here from the new Ivy League. How are you doing, my friend? Doing good. I'll say challenge accepted. Big shout out to all my guys who worked on our event advertising and planning and everything. They're doing great. They don't get enough credit. Yeah, I mean, the regional events are popping off this time of year. I've heard nothing but excellent reviews of the South Central Forum that just happened over this past weekend. Actually, why don't you take some time now, sir, to actually shill the upcoming event.

Where could people buy their tickets? Well, if you're a member of the Old Glory Club, you should ask your regional liaison. This is our second annual event. We had our first one last year. It was a huge success. You don't want to miss these things. It's our speaker lineup is phenomenal. Both our guests who are traveling in from elsewhere, including Mr. Paul Fahrenheit,

Mr. Sandbatch, Mr. Jay Burden, and others, but also members of my chapter that I'm really excited to hear what they have to say. Last year, our event was quite a lot shorter. Most of you have probably heard about the East Coast Forum and how successful that was. that really lit a fire under all of us to see, oh, like, this thing can, these can be way bigger, you know, way more than we thought. So the event's going to run from noon to 10 p.m.

You know, obviously a lot of social time to, it's not going to be pedal to the metal the whole way, but I'm really excited for it. So please, I'm here to make sure you buy a ticket. And they're going fast. We have, you know, we're, I wouldn't say we're sold out, but we're, we're becoming aware of our limitations in terms of how many people we can, we can sell to you. So feel free, reach out to me, reach out to your regional liaison, and I'll see you there. Yes.

Yes, indeed. Excellent shilling for your event. I'm hearing nothing but amazing reviews from all of our regional conferences all over the country. And it really is quite important for people to meet in real life. We've been stressing this for years. And it's actually very amazing to see the progression or the progress we have made throughout these last couple of years of what we actually should be doing at these events. You know, I mean, at the very beginning, we were, you know, like, oh, maybe we need to stack it full of a bunch of speakers. But as time has gone by, we've actually cut down the amount of speeches at all of our conferences.

conferences. We're like, ah, you know what? We actually need more social time because that's really what all this is about. So I recommend everybody. At our event last year, everyone has something to say about every one of the talks it was given, but everyone talks about the two hours. We were all in the parking lot smoking cigars, right? And the speeches give you, give you something to talk about. Yeah, absolutely. It's just an excuse for everyone to get into a room, you know? But let me introduce the four. fourth member of our panel this evening. Mr. Jeff Dice is with us tonight. Jeff, good to have you back on the show. How are you, sir? Excellent. Thank you, gentlemen, for having me. Yeah, always a pleasure. Before we get into the stories for the evening, gentlemen, we, of course, need to keep the lights on here at OGC Central, so let's go through a list of our friends and sponsors. Of course, at the top, we must,

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Exactly. Exactly. It took me a couple days actually at the national conferences here to get fitted for mine because every time, you know, he was taking my measurements. Somebody taps on my shoulders. Like, oh, Red Hawk, we need you to do something else. So I was like, oh, okay. So I came back to him the next day. I was like, okay, where do we leave off?

Like, oh, yeah, we were taking your measurements of your trout. I'm like, oh, okay. All right, we're back to it. So, but you can immediately tell who's wearing one of these suits. And I do believe that summer sale on select items up to 50% off is still on. So please give our friend, Mr. Vindrillo, your support. And then finally, one more person that everybody in this chat should absolutely be giving their support to. It's our good friend, Mr. George Bagby.

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I just couldn't help but choose to talk about this one first. We have to talk about the Neocons, man, because boy, oh boy, have they been out in force this week? and the person who exemplifies this most is this despicable character here of Mr. John Padoritz. Okay. Let's listen in today on the neocons update on how the war in Iran is going and perhaps what should have been done differently and what these absolute geniuses have to say on this. So let's listen in. His poll numbers stink. The war's poll numbers stink.

The war's poll numbers are starting to stink among Republicans. he this is the major commitment of his first term and it's failing and so he and the Republicans are going into the midterm elections with absolutely no positive case to be made about the last two years of governance aside from the passage of the- who could have predicted this who could have predicted this oh man you know what guys I was told that by everybody that we were truning out that we were panicans that we weren't trusting Donald Trump that we were traders to the Republican Party. We're traitors to the Trump administration.

We're saying this very obvious point. We were saying this last June during Operation Midnight Hammer when apparently we destroyed Iran's nuclear capabilities for the next thousand years. And then we launched this other war in February. Oh, man, look at this now. These guys are sounding like full panikins. One big beautiful bill. Are we going to go?

Are we going to say something? Oh, yeah. I was just going to say the, um, these are born liars i mean they're their text their religious texts say it's okay to lie to us i mean this is not what he would you could compare this to things he was saying on you know april first of this year a month after it was and it's a completely different story i this all comes you know we want to talk about somalis we want to talk about diane's we want to talk about diana diaspora politics.

There's only, there's a final boss. There's the, the big boss of diaspora politics is the one we're not allowed to talk about. But I mean, that's why we're in this war. I think that wall is, is crumbling every day. You know, I think there's more, you know, you hear a hundred stories of, of talking to your boomer parents about any of a hundred, like the, the liberty or, or just the amount of money we send over that, you know, I really think we're, I'm going to see in my lifetime the culmination of that shift. Yeah.

Call me optimistic. No, I mean, well, the poll numbers certainly don't lie on that front, you know, that Israel's approval amongst all age demographics in the United States is on the decline. Of course, the smallest decline amongst the boomers, but they are getting there. But the writing is on the wall for these people. And we all knew this, talking about this in late February when we actually launched this war. This is a last ditch effort from the Israelis to squeeze every last drop of the can out of the American military machine for their own ends. We all know that this Iran war has absolutely nothing to do with a trade war with oil with China or cutting off Russian access to Iranian oil or all these other nonsensical claims that people were trying to make to just this obviously horrible decision that Donald Trump ran on.

Back in 2016, he was the only Republican on the stage who told everybody to their faces. No, we never should have gotten involved in the Middle East. We never should have gotten involved with Iraq. It was all lies. All of you people are corrupt. All of you people are in on it. We spend way too much time invested in these foreign wars. I'm going to focus here on the American people.

And then he even said it again, leading up to 2024. It's like, I was the only president who didn't start a new war. we can kind of like you know quarrel about that a little bit if airstrikes and you know if various places count as war but it regardless you know and then people were trying to tell us back in february oh no listen um actually uh donald trump in this one clip in 1989 said we had to take out the iranians so therefore you know we all knew what we were getting into when we voted for don't trump you know this we all knew this was on the table right you know such unbelievable frauds these people unbelievable and they're all going to creep right back in now i'm starting to see the exact same characters

who were all gung-ho about this war saying oh it's going to be done at five minutes are slowly starting to creep back in and try and weasel their way back into our spaces being like oh well actually guys it's not really being a panicking to say the iran war is bad for the poll numbers i actually still support the war and i think it's been really great for us and our operational objectives have been succeeded have been fulfilled please please please list what those objectives are sir but nobody can do that. It's just so infuriating. Any other comments before we listen to the rest of these clowns? I think it's interesting. I mean, first of all, virtually no one in the political class paid a price over Iraq and WMD and all of the unbelievable failures of 9-11. You know, this multi-trillion dollar,

so-called national security apparatus sitting around with its, you know what, in its hands, while I guess a bunch of Saudi rich kids were flying airplanes into fields or something like that. But the other thing is interesting here is that the neoconservatives, I think, have forgotten one of their own nostrums, which is basically that Americans aren't ideological. They're just like a winner. So the ideological idea of neoconservative foreign policy, remaking the world for democracy, remaking Afghanistan, remaking Iraq, we're going to be welcomed with open arms after we liberate what was basically, she's cobbled together by the British, you know, called Iraq, etc., etc.

And so they sold this in political circles, you know, the commentary magazine meets National Review, meets Hoover Institute. They sold all of this as an ideological thing, you know, flowing out of the whole 20th century of wars for democracy because as Hoppa points out, prior to the 20th century, nobody ever made any pretense that war was threatening other than land and spoils. It's only in the 21st century, Wilsonian liberalism, make the world safe for democracy, a bunch of neoconservative pushes in the U.S. federal government

to create house organs and then work with the media industrial complex to sell wars on almost an ideological basis. Now, that's just a front where, of course, actual interests call it the Israeli lobby or whatever you want to call it. But nonetheless, this ideological component was for the political class. The rank and file Americans, the populist amongst whom Trump so enormously prevailed in 2016, they just like a winner, whether that's NASCAR, whether that's, you know, the most buxom girl. you know, whatever it might be. It's not about ideology for them.

And what neocons forgot is at some point, if you keep losing, this shit actually gets unpopular. And somehow they lost sight of that. And, you know, they're all getting older now. You know, William Crystal sort of out of the picture with the bulwark and all that stuff. The elder Poet Horitz is gone. So there's really not a. a class coming up behind these, let's say, Boomer 65 and older neocons. There's not a bench.

There's not a deep bench that I can see. Even the National Review guys are irrelevant, I think. But even amongst the Stradlers, we could call the Claremont-Straussian end of con, Inc. They're trying to be populist and more pro-Trump with their foreign policy messaging, but they're also trying to play nice with these older ideas of America. American exceptionalism. And, you know, let's face it, even though we have friends like Ron Dodson, who writes for Claremont and the American line, they're still trying to have it both ways.

They're still trying to basically accept the tenets of post-war liberalism, which cannot be accepted. That's an absolute dividing line. And so that's, I think, where we have to focus with the under 40s. And I have a 20-year-old with roommates, so I have a good feel, I think, I like to think, for how him and his roommates and other college age kids and college kids on the right are viewing all this and they give exactly zero Fs about the Middle East zero negative Fs about the Middle East and I don't know that the neocons have a way out of that. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, Jeff. I mean, it seems like at least some of the legacy conservative institutions that are at least trying to have a foot in both camps.

I mean, they're only getting dragged to this position, literally kicking and screaming, you know, to get there. The other ones, you know, like your David French's of the world, are just going to firmly plant both of their feet in this dying position that appeals to absolutely nobody. Well, nobody under the age of 40 cares what any of these people think, or even, quite frankly, probably knows who any of these clowns are. Yeah, but somehow, this is the thing that our good friend, Jay Burton, has been tackling with quite recently on his excellent shows where he's, you know, going after some of the conservative ink characters there are still lurking about, you know, like your Seth Dillans and Jeremy Boreings or what have you.

The thing is, is like these people have no audiences. Nobody listens to them. Their companies are dying like the Daily Wire. But the problem is why it's still useful to be attacking these people is that even though nobody listens to them, they still have. positions, people in power still listen to them. They still have access to the levers of power. They still have access to the money. They still have ways of gatekeeping people like us out of these institutions and trying their absolute damnedest to prevent an insurgency from people like us who are not radical by any stretch of the imagination when 85% of Americans,

when polled, don't support this war in Iran. This is not an unpopular position that any of us are holding despite what anybody would say. No, we're what we've talked about this before. The things that we talk about on P.E.R. That people complain about are the mainstream or mainstream conversations. The only people who are upset about it are the people who still want to kiss ass to these people. Yeah, I mean, the bottom line here is, is that conservative Inc. does not want to accept the fact that their base in these terms that they would use.

The base of people that are trying to appeal to are more isolationist, more nationalist, more, let's say, woke on like the race question. They're more anti-Semitic, you know, quote unquote. And they're more protectionists with free markets.

And there are more hawkish on immigration than conservative institutions want to be. And so now they're caught into quagmire here. They're like, oh, well, the base of people that actually, you know, votes for us is way to the right on all of these issues. So they're stuck. Well, those people, the traditional conservative base, have more pressing concerns than international

policy. You know, on your point about choosing a winner, of course you want to choose the winner. The winner is going to put food on your table, right? I know you talked, you guys talked about that last week, the cost of living and all these things that are way more important to people than ideological purity or or even even legitimacy right the the worst things get the more people's people's concerns become narrower and more to hand right when your refrigerator's empty it doesn't matter why we went to war if the war bankrupted us if the war destroyed our

economy you know And also it doesn't matter how many times you try and fly to people by saying like, you know, we've done this game of we've won the war apparently 47 times now. But also we have like total control of the Strait of Hormuz, but we don't have control of the Strait of Hormuz. But ships are magically getting through. But also some ships are getting blown up. And, you know, it's just even though like the people who aren't paying attention to this stuff on a day to day basis like we are, you know, they get sense that something is not right here. Something is not up. You know, okay.

So this has been going on for six months and change. now and apparently we had the largest bombing operation in, you know, forever, apparently people keep telling us and we've killed all the top brass of this country. They really went out of their way to make sure we told everyone about that, that like, what was it, you know, a hundred of the 120 people in charge of the country got blown up in the first like 48 hours of this war, what have you? And that's like, oh, well, we're still at war apparently and gas prices are going up. And, you know, this just doesn't pass the smell test. well, you know, they'll just say that everything that you, you just spelled out there, or,

you're lying on purpose because you're trying to destroy everything that Trump is doing. Oh my God. Yeah. We're going to have to tackle with this just like forever for the rest of the administration, aren't we? It's like podcasters are the reason the president of the United States can't do what he was elected to do. In which case, it's like, why are any of us here then? You know, like what are we even doing here? It's like, why get involved in politics at all at this point, apparently, if, you know, like Candice Owens apparently could crater the entire administration's agenda. All right. Why don't we listen on to what these gentlemen have to say?

Which doesn't seem to have much in the way of electoral legs. Since you don't hear anybody on the campaign trail talking about the greatness of the one big, beautiful bill. and the tariffs are in question. The ballroom has been frozen. The ice is now sort of quieted down. It's public raids. His numbers on immigration are bad. His numbers everywhere are bad.

And in the end, this is all going to be the fault of refusing to do the right things to win the war. Wrong. Wrong. You see, guys, we just listed off all these reasons why Donald Trump is very unpopular right now. But you know what would have made them better if we had won the war? If only we had bombed Iran harder. Yeah, exactly.

But you got to understand. These guys are mostly talking to each other. This is almost like eavesdropping. They are much more skilled at politics than Trumpians, to put it mildly. I mean, look at what they've done. So they're already figuring out their lifeboat strategy from a sinking ship of Trumpism and deciding whether they're, you know, what their future strategy is. If that, you know, that may not be the Mondami's of the world, but it could easily be the Rama manuals or the, you know, any number of Democratic Party conceptions. So it is it's humorous to us, I suppose, because we see them.

I'd like to think we see them clearly for what they are. But the flip side is, is you have to understand that these are not stupid people. And they are absolutely willing to jump ship on Trump or anything else when it comes to their foreign policy interests. And they're not going to go down into the ship. We know that for sure. I don't think anyone would accuse these guys of being loyal. Yeah, no. I mean, or stupid either, just like Jeff said.

I mean, here's the other thing, too. It's like I feel like people in our thing are constantly worried about being like intellectually honest and consistent, you know, in our positions, you know, because number one, because we're generally honest people. But also, you know, you carry quite a bit of respect in our scene. you know, by being consistent in your views and what have you. But look in the comparison with these guys who have signed on for wars that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and not millions of people. And you think that they're going to have any moral qualms about lying to people.

Seriously, you know, they just don't care. Yeah, we get, we get accused of lying. And apparently by us, quote, unquote, lying, we're destroying Trump's administration while these fuckers, while, while, while Netanyahu lies and Trump listens to them and fucking launches a war that's basically destroying his presidency. Gee, I wonder who has more power. Let's listen on. sorts of ancillary benefits you can't entirely guess at, but surge of national pride, a sense that, you know, a country's monstrous regime has been ended and that the people there have been liberated from its

horrible yoke even if you don't quite know what's going to come next. Do you know what the Republican base wants to remove the horrible regime that we're living under and destroy, you know, they have a sense of national pride or what have you, the Democrats. How about that? How about wokeism? How about the DEI regime and the civil rights regime and the Nuremberg regime that we've been living under for almost 100 years at this point? You know, the things that are actually threatening this country. I was talking about this the other night with some of our guys on a different call. But I remember back during the Obama years when memes were first starting to make a major

circulation on Twitter. And they were having the first bit of like the Iran deal that was going on during Obama's second term. And one of the memes that was circulating around at the time was why did the chick across the road? It's because Iran's missiles can't reach that far. And really it's the same thing here in the sense of, I, Iran is literally zero threat to the United States in any way, shape, or form, period.

Their missiles can't reach us. We can easily just close our borders and not let any Iranians into the country. This is a very simple and easy problem to solve. But somehow, after 9-11, we have more Muslims in the country after 9-11 than we did before 9-11. Square that circle for me. And just freaking out about, oh, man, this great regime of Iran. It's like, listen, dude, the Democrats are more threatening to my life.

and to the lives of every American, then all of Iran put together. This is just ridiculous. The second sort of, you know, I live in a fairly liberal area, right? The sort of second wave of white guilt after GWAT that like,

you know, it was, war on terror was so bad. We need to bring them all over here and hug them to make it okay. It's, It's something that's kind of been in the cultural stew up here for a long time. I'm in, you know, I'm in very liberal New England. And maybe we'll talk later about H-1B, about demographic, that kind of thing.

But the living growing up being a young person in the war on terror era in a liberal area area was, you know, this is the worst thing we've ever done. And, you know, not just we need to civilize them here or there, but we need to let them all in with open arms, right? Yep. It's the same thing every single time when we start one of these conflicts, you know, whether it's in Somalia, whether it's in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan,

probably soon to be Iran here as well. Somehow we're going to, Libya, somehow we're going to get a new influx of these people into our country. How can we use this to bring more brown people over? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Or flood them into Spain, as it were, as well. Now, let's carry on, Mr. Podoritz. Restructuring of the Middle East so that we are less beholden to

or in bed with forces like gutter that are doing domestic damage to the United States in terms of their propaganda campaigns. I don't know what. But losing is the end of everything. Like this is, I literally don't know what he goes and tells the American people or that Republicans go and tell the American people that they should be brought back into the control of the Senate and hold the House, except that the Democrats are crazy socialists who are evil. And indeed, Abuel, say it is evil.

And many of the people who are running are extremists who are bad for America. Pause. Actually, he's kind of correct here in this regard. It's like, what do Republicans actually have to show for themselves going into the midterms? And you are seeing this right now with everybody who's campaigning. they're basically doing exactly what he's saying here. The only thing they really have to show up for themselves is, well, the Democrats are worse. And that only gets people to show up to vote for you so many times.

You can't be like Charlie Brown trying to kick this football. And we see it. And the poll numbers have already come out. I mean, we talked about this last week. You know, the poll numbers coming out in states like Michigan, where in the gubernatorial primary, you had a 600,000 difference in voter turnout between Democrats and Republicans. and 600,000 more Democrats showed up and voted in the primary than Republicans did. It's not looking good for November, guys.

Yeah, you notice, though, his tone changes. Now that things are not going the way they want, they treat Trump as this third party object, right? It's no longer short of us. It's they're observing objectively outside of Trumpism. and they're saying, gee whiz, this isn't working. What is this idiot thinking? He's not winning the war.

He's no longer their guy, in other words. And you can sense that shift in his voice. And when he says, well, the Democrats are really bad and evil, but that's not enough for Republicans to run it. What he can't bring himself to say because he knows what this means for his own interests is he can't bring up us them, right, friend and enemy. That can't be what he's trying to say because that would imply that he is on one side against the left with us on the right. And he will never say that. He will never be that.

So when you say the Democrats are evil, they are. And that's a lot. That's actually a lot to run on. Right. I mean, that that's not nothing to say that you've got to vote and there's this maniacal demon of a crazed caricature of a left-wing person in 2026, which is pretty crazed versus not that. And it doesn't matter that we're over here bungling wars in Iran. It doesn't matter that we're lying to our constituency. You know, it's one thing to abuse your base. It's one thing to ignore your base. It's another to hate your base, to actively hate your base. To actively hate your base in the in and and and and and so i won't lump podhuritz potteritz in with this because again it's not his base he sees himself as wholly apart from all this but you know with ted cruz he

he hates his base and and that's that's a sin that you can tell uh pot horitz is is not willing to sort to walk down that path in his analysis of this political landscape. He can't, he can't bring himself the friend, enemy, which is, which is the basis of all politics. Yeah. Excellent points, Jeff. Indeed. Well, the money shot is coming in this clip here, gentlemen. So let's listen a little bit further. But that's not a case for the Republicans. And right now, the Democratic candidate, for Senate in Texas is in the lead. Multiple polls. He has a small but measurable lead outside the margin of error of about 4%.

James Tala Rico. In Texas, the race in Iowa is a three-point race one way or the other. Not clear. Texas and Iowa lose. Republicans lose in Texas and Iowa. Abuel Saed can lose in Michigan to a Republican, and with enough other dominoes falling, Democrats can still take the Senate. This war ends with Iran, with the acceptance that Iran has some sway or control over the Strait of Hormuz. The war, we lost the war.

Point one way or another before, and I think it applies to all of us, I'm sure. If you had said, you know, people say, oh, well, the neocons got what they wanted, they got the one. No, none of us wanted this. If you would come to me and any of us, I'm sure, in late January and said, hey, we're going to go into Iran. What do you think? I go, great.

And they'd say, but we only have enough defensive missiles, enough defense batteries and maybe enough long range missiles. missiles for like an honest month of fighting and then we're out. I'd say, no. Oh, so you mean that thing that we were literally saying on this show and many other people were talking about leading up to the Iranian war a couple months beforehand. We were mentioning this after the Operation Midnight Hammer last year. This thing that was out in the open for everyone that United States has been supplying

munitions to the Ukrainians to fight their war in Russia. and the war that's going on, well, I'm going to call it a war, the ethnic cleansing that is going on in Gaza, the hands of the Israelis that Americans have also been supplying arms to. It's like, oh, yeah, all those missiles that you need to fight a war with Iran, yeah, we don't have many of those. And then these guys are like, oh, well, you know, if you had told us that we didn't have so many missiles, it's like, dude, I have no military background, and I fucking knew this. How the hell did you not? And we know why. look, I'm a fucking stupid podcaster. How is it that people, I get people who contact me and go, I'm on the inside.

I know that we, we do not have enough to, we don't have enough anti-missile systems to fight this. How come I'm a stupid podcaster, but these motherfuckers in their group chats, who's, what, they're just believing the people, oh, you mean the people that are paying you, the Jews, that are paying you, you listen to them and say, oh, this is winnable. I mean, this is going to happen in a weekend. It's going to be just like Venezuela. And I'm the stupid podcaster, right? You dumb motherfuckers, listening to the, listening to your fucking paymasters, what do you think

they're going to tell you? Yeah, the other thing, too, is like, you know, okay, so if we are the geniuses over here that knew this very obvious fact, you would think that in any semblance, of a meritocracy that we are allegedly told that America is, you know, all the way from the top down, right? That these guys wouldn't be let near the halls of power literally ever again for such an obvious, an open fuck up. But, you know, like we've said, oh, no, they're going to get all the, you know, jobs once again. They're going to slither off to something else. You know, these people are going to fail upwards like apparently everybody else does now in the United States, except for Heritage Americans.

Oh, well, there's just no accountability. Oh, yeah. None. And we lack kind of the means to hold them to account in a lot of ways. And then you got Trump, you know, kissing up to Mark Levin once again, you know, the genius Mark Levine, the top war strategist, Mark Levine, the well-known Trump supporter since day one, Mark Levine. As a matter of fact, Mark Levine was out canvassing for Trump.

He was having him on every one of his shows on Fox News. He was telling all of his friends to support Donald Trump. He went to all of his rallies, bought all of his MAGA merch. Mark Levin lost relationships with family members. He lost contact with, you know, sons and daughters, lost contact with some of his best friends. You know, some of his businesses were vandalized, you know, he got shot. And Mark Levine in a boxhole, man. Yeah, exactly.

You know, number one, Trump supporter, Mark Levine, who has sacrificed so much. Yeah. Unbelievable. All right. Let's listen to the rest of this. We're nearing the end. Yeah. No.

Don't do it. build up. I'm excited in the change in direction, but don't do it the wrong way. That's that's going to be a disaster. I just think that's that's that's that's axiomatic. I mean, you're you're you're insane, you know, you're insane to support a war that you're not prepared that you don't have the preparedness to fight. Oh, you mean the war that you guys were all pushing literally on the day of praising. Trump nonstop? Unbelievable.

No, you guys got exactly what you wanted and I get to eat crow. And if there was any justice in the world, you guys would not be allowed near the halls of power ever again. The Trump administration would throw all of you assholes immediately out and never take your advice on anything ever again. But we know that's not how this game is played. We know that's not how this machine is run. These guys are there.

And unfortunately, they're there to stay for the short term. You know, anybody else got anything to say about, you know, the current state of the war Iran, the neocon cope that we're having, the fact that these slithering snakes are, you know, just going to keep on doing what they're doing. And I also just love, you know, again, you still see people, even though when we have, we finally have mainstream news outlets like the New York Times saying, oh, well, you know, we're kind of running out of missiles and it doesn't really look like the Iranians are going to give us an inch here.

And, you know, just wait, just wait until the next deal that Trump absolutely needs for this war. because we're running out of strategic petroleum reserves. We're having major issues on a bunch of our aircraft carriers who stayed in the straight for way too long and haven't gone to port. We just cannot keep this up any longer. Eventually a deal is going to have to be made. It's probably going to be much, much worse than the MOU is, and all these guys are merely going to go back to,

well, we just need to bomb them more. We just need to bomb them more. And, you know, I mean, a person who has been ringing the alarm bells on this one, has been Tucker quite a bit on the possibility of a nuclear exchange. I think a lot of people kind of just like wave that off. It's like, oh, no, there's no possibility. There could be a nuclear exchange. You know, nobody uses nukes.

We didn't use nukes at all during the Cold War here. What? We're going to use nukes against Iran? Really is that a really, really going to do that? It's like, dude, I think you're foolish to think that nukes are not on the table at this point. I mean, people backed into corners do very desperate things. And it's looking like people are looking very, very desperate at this point to

wrap up this war and I hope I really really hope that the war isn't wrapped up with dropping nuclear bombs on people. All right suppose that is the end of this discussion here guys but you know the talk about the neocons doesn't really end there

alright because you know we were talking on this show a couple weeks ago about the late Lindsay Graham going the way of the dinosaur so to speak you know you think that given how unpopular he was and you know we could finally get rid of some of these people maybe wouldn't have such obvious nepotism and no they are literally going to give us

Lindsey Graham 2.0 so here's some news coming out of the Darlene Graham primary she's actually won the runoff and is advancing into the next stage so this is just so unbelievably on the nose I don't even know where to begin with this one okay did anyone even know who this woman was at all before before like, you know, Lindsay Graham's funeral and they just pull her out of the crowd and we're like, oh, it's what he would have wanted. We're going to put his sister in his seat. This, well, crazy.

Surely, you can have a distinguished, you know, older politician would have kind of trained his son for his whole life to kind of follow in his footsteps, right? Are you, are my hearing that he doesn't have someone waiting in the wings like this? He's got a Ukrainian rent boy. He's been training up, you know, just. for this moment look the you know rich beres pulled south carolina 80% of the people he pulled in south carolina who are you know who vote for lindsay graham didn't know that he was pro- iran war or pro- ukraine and i think it was 60% of them just believe he was you know just to confirm

the old bachelor this says i think this says more about the general public than it does our system. Well, I mean, you can't ignore how just out of control the system is and irreparable. But I mean, this is your argument against democracy, Rich Barris's polls. This is your argument against having people choose their leaders, quote unquote. Yeah. It really just is. Yeah.

It kind of just throws a complete monkey wrench in people's faces. When people are talking about, oh, we just need to vote harder. We just need a third party, guys. We just need to, you know, we just need to replace these people in the primaries, get our people in Washington, D.C., and we'll fix this entire rotten system, guys. Now, they will, this isn't going to be the last time either. You know, come on. They're going to appoint, you know, the next Mitch McConnell.

You know, we'll go right and slide right into that very safe seat. You know, he'll probably get it next. And they really can't get away with doing this with the same thing that we were talking about earlier with, you know, well, you got to vote for us because the Democrats are worse. We truly get the absolute worst Republicans. Well, they're so, so bad. And there just seems to be no way to primary to get rid of these people. Machine moves on. Well, that's at the end of the Lindsey Graham discussion either.

We just had to pull this up to because, you know, our. good friend cringe Walker was making the rounds on Twitter this week with one of the largest tweets his account it's ever had. It's actually pretty amazing how much it popped up. But he had a picture of the Francis Scott Key bridge that is still not made any progress since being knocked down a couple of years ago. And, you know, the tweet was something to the effect of this bridge is not scheduled to be rebuilt until 2030. Meanwhile, the Iranians have reconstructed every single bridge we have blown up since the start of the war. And then you have pictures like this where, you know, we could spend all the time we want

renaming Air Force bases after Lindsay Graham. Can't do anything for the American people, guys, but we've got to rename these military Air Force bases with Lindsay Graham. Historians in the future, I think, are going to mark civilizations based on how quickly they can repair a bridge. You see all the, for years,

all the documentary work coming out of Africa, like, you know, the Romans built this bridge or whatever, but then it collapsed hundreds of years later and we never figured out how to fix it. So we just like, you know, have a plank going across it, you know. How long did it take to build the Francis Scott Key Bridge and how long, you know, what did we have for technology then? Have we really progressed since that period or have we only kind of fallen down in our capability? Yeah. It really just shows you, I mean, we were talking about Tucker's 10 points that he had on a podcast last week about things Americans should aspire to and what Americans should be. And really the greatest point that was made in that entire, you know, 90-minute monologue was just the problems that are facing our country cannot be fixed by voting in a new president. It cannot be fixed by voting in a new president. It cannot be fixed by. by the next midterm election or what have you. The issues that we have in our system and in our country are so, so much deeper than just

surface level politics and showing up to the polling booth to vote every two years. And it's things like this where we just have so much regulation, so much corruption, such a lack of spirit in ourselves that, you know, it should be a point of national pride that we can rouse, you know, rouse, you know, 50,000 engineers and workers to put that bridge together in no time flat, like great Americans of old. You know, but everybody just walks around with this miasma and this malaise and everybody deep down knew right away that when that bridge went down. It's like, and I still hold this position, and I think time was going to prove me right,

that thing's never getting rebuilt, ever. You know, it's going to drag on just like this California high-speed rail nonsense has been going on for well over a decade, where they haven't laid even one inch of track and they've wasted billions upon billions of dollars in pork just to give to their friends. And it's going to be the same thing with that bridge. That thing is never ever getting rebuilt. No, it's it's all office job, like office jobs who where you sit at your desk all day, you know, you pretend to write an email, you pretend, you know, we don't get anything done.

You know, it's about kind of milking the system for as many billable hours as possible. and not Yeah Go get me started Yeah Yeah On every given week I probably do

15 minutes of actual work Yeah So I mean I think we all knew When when a bunch of sheets Took down this bridge That the odds

That it was going to be Immediately rebuilt Were pretty much zero And Anyone who knows anything especially about big city politics and Baltimore although it's not a gigantic city you could consider it to be it's inner city politics let's call it that this is going to be grifted it's it's like the highway it's it's like the highway um construction that you've been seeing for

five years that hasn't finished somebody's getting rich off of it somebody some contract was given to somebody's brother and it's being fed back to them and that's what this is going to be. It's going to be a cluster. And when they do get it rebuilt, when they do get it rebuilt, it'll probably fall right back down. I mean, that's about what I expect. You see the quality of, yeah, I mean,

you see the quality of the homes being built. You know, I can't imagine that the railroads and the, you know, the airplanes and the bridges are being built up to, you know, much higher, you know, but much better specs. you know, let's just say, you know, there's endless videos of people on Twitter showing, you know, Mexican made homes for Mexican work, right? And it's like, well, can you know, yes, yes. Okay. So, yeah, but anyway, so we got a renamed, you know, point base, Lindsey Graham, which, by the way, I mean, I've been told there's like military significance to

naming your, you know, Air Force bases like this, but come on, man, that's a garbage name. You know, you couldn't at least name it like Graham Air Force Base or something, you know, come on. Yeah. Anyway, all right. So moving right along, gentlemen, we're going to continue going. You know, we got to talk about this story too. You know, we're talking about all the great things that the Republicans have going into the midterms here, talking about, you know, the Iran war, talking about immigration. Well, why don't we look at, you know, the biggest issue facing the country right now? Because, you know, for all the issues that we have thrown and all the critical. We've thrown at Donald Trump on the show. All of it deserved. You know, he has done a good job of at least securing the southern border with border crossings. But what about legal immigration? Specifically, H-1B visas.

This has definitely been one of the top issues facing, you know, the Republican base, basically since Trump came back into office. But something very, very interesting was actually released this week. What you're looking at here is a county map of the United States mapped onto number of H-1B visas. you know, in the country. And you'll notice the darker areas of the map, whether it be dark blue or dark red, are the areas where we have most of the H-1Bs that are held. And, you know, interestingly enough,

take a look in the great state of Texas there. Quite a lot of deep red there. In fact, some of the most deep red areas. Also look in northwest Arkansas, where the Walmart headquarters is there. You're looking in places like Central Ohio. You're looking in places in Virginia, some places in Florida.

Well, hmm. Well, why don't we zoom in to Texas here and see what's going on with some of these districts? And lo and behold, some of our favorite characters. Look there. There's Chip Roy. Everyone remember Chip Roy. We got Brandon Gill's district in there, the guy who married Dinesh D'Suzza's daughter, you know, right there. So, of course, all the fastest growing areas in Texas for H-1Bs, all eight of them are run by the GOB.

initial thoughts on this fellas you know I'm I'm in the top right of the country right and um does despite not being in there you go right despite not being as dark

a place as it could be I do see it's something that that impacts me right I work in tech you know I live in the kind of town that these people are are settling in you know my town sends me a letter and says hey

just so you know, here's from the planning board. We're planning on demolishing this portion of park and city and we're putting in 300 apartment buildings or 300 unit apartment buildings. And like, oh, great, you know, there goes my property value. There goes the neighborhood. Right.

And well, it's very easy to black pill on this stuff. You also have to understand the tenuous position of the paper American, the H-1B recipient is in, because he lives as a slave to his sponsor, who's garnishing his wages, who at his whim could deport him back to hell on earth, right? And I have sympathy for anybody who doesn't want to live in hell on earth, but that doesn't mean you get to move in next door to me.

Yeah, it's just, it's really an unbelievable phenomenon. There's online searches where you can enter your zip code and check out the H-1B landscape near you. Now, I happen to live in the great state of Alabama in a nice, bucolic little college town of Auburn, SEC country. And so not surprisingly, the biggest H-1B employer by a long shot in my county is Auburn University. and you know, you can see all the, there's 700 some each one B's issued to the university over a period of about 10 years. And they're all pretty much low six-figure type salaries. You know, anybody in and around a major, especially at public university, I'm sure the private ones as well, will tell you that the graduate programs especially are entirely full of foreign students.

So people like my grandparents and my father paid lots and lots and lots and lots. lots of taxes to, you know, a few different states to support their state school systems and then their own children and grandchildren can't get in to various programs as a result of this. For example, the Econ graduate program at Auburn University is almost entirely Chinese. And one reason for that, not the only reason, but one big reason for that is that econ programs have become almost entirely really, really high-level math. stuff like vector calculus that is going to blow a lot of people out of the water in terms of being able to hack it. And this is not to say that, let's say, Chinese students are so brilliant. It's that they drill from a very young age in math, in a rope manner that makes them capable of handling this type of stuff. You know, by the time they're 22, 24, 25, whatever it might be.

But nonetheless, I don't think people in Alabama have spent the last, more than 100 years, almost 140 years since Auburn became a Methodist Land Grant University funding it so that it could produce Chinese PhDs, most of whom, not all, but many of whom go back to China. I would even go so far, and this is, I understand I'm deviating a little bit from the actual H-1B issue, but just, you know, immigration in general. I can even go so far as to point out that the Auburn tennis team is almost entirely non-U.S. Those scholarships are going to Chinese kids, Korean kids, Australian kids, South African kids, you name it. I mean, why shouldn't, let's say a top high school white kid from Alabama be able to get a frigging tennis scholarship to Auburn? Well, he can't. That's the short answer.

And if he were going to, he'd probably already know by, let's say, age 8 to 10. Not simply he was really good by the time he was 15 or something. I mean, it's become so hyper competitive to get a frigging D1 tennis scholarship simply because you're competing against tennis players all over the world and not just tennis players throughout the state of Alabama. That's absolutely monstrous. And, you know, when we talk about H-1Bs, it's so ironic to me. I mean, I come from background in economics, and economists are some of the biggest shills and cowards for H-1Bs.

And if anybody should know anything, it's, first of all, what kind of enterprise requires constant new inputs, of labor inputs, right? I mean, oh, our population has to grow constantly or else we won't get richer. Well, first of all, that's wrong and bad economic. Second of all, what matters is not the gross output of a nation or a people. What matters is the wealth per capita, right? India produces more wealth than Liechtenstein, right? Nobody would rather live in India than lincolnstein if they're being honest right it's wealth per capita that matters and the other thing is so irritating about these these cowardly open borders economists viewing human beings as widgets is that their whole fucking job is to show us the unseen right we all of us in this audience would say well gee

wish you you take a bunch of taxes from people by force you build a housing project and the local mayor says see, look what I did. There were no houses for these people, and now there's houses. And we all say, yeah, but here's what people could have done with those taxes, right? We all understand the unseen argument. That's the whole key to, let's say, market economics is understanding the unseen, the opportunity cost, the tradeoff. But yet somehow when it comes to H1Bs, there's never, even an attempt by these cowardly academics to show the costs of what, diversity and low trust creating across society, the friction, right? What does it mean when a multicultural population doesn't trust one another? What does that mean for contracts?

What does that mean for simple transactions on eBay motors or Facebook marketplace? What does that mean for rents? What does that mean for nepotistic, clannish hiring? What does it mean for traffic accidents. The inability and the unwillingness to even to even look at this and to view human labor as these fungible widgets, it is why, I think, in part, the economics profession is reviled and deservedly so. I mean, the failure to understand immigration and portrayed the true costs and tradeoffs is an absolute advocate. of duty by all economists. And it's because they're all culturally left. They all want open boards. And they just won't say it. So they reverse engineer ridiculous studies at Cato or something to justify.

End of rant. Sorry. You know, one of the things that free market economists will try to sell is the fact that because a business owner has self-interest in making money, that means that there are the things that they produce, well, you know, you can benefit from that. You can benefit from the jobs that are created. You can benefit from, the government can benefit from the tax, the taxes of taxing the employees, the taxing of the products,

all of this. The self-interest will somehow, their self-interest will somehow benefit you. But if their self-interest is just the bottom line and it's not your culture, then your culture is going to be destroyed. Your country is going to be destroyed. If everything... Their self-interest is extractive from us.

Right, right. If they're... Yeah, the classic Masonomics moment recently. You guys know George Mason, you know, an arm of the Cato Coke Empire. Brian Kaplan has some kind of comic book, the open borders guy, Brian Kaplan, that's called You Don't Have a Right to Your Culture. And I saw that and I was like, man,

that's a Masonomics moment. His next book is just going to be called Fuck You. Just absolutely unbelievably tone deaf. And yes, you don't have to ask about Brian Kaplan if you're asking the question. The answer is yes. But yeah, God, I hate talking. about economics but you know it's an important part of life it's an important part of um everyday

everyday transactions how you transact with other people how you act with other people and when it just what it's come to in this country because um it's become so we've allowed economics to deracinate us so much is that we just don't have a country anymore we have that famous open air strip mall that I don't know who came up with that term, but it's the most perfect term. We have an open-air strip mall, and all anybody is doing is, you know, we're looking for the lowest prices,

and they're looking for, they're looking to figure out how they're going to make, how they can have the fattest bottom line. And, you know, when it comes to the free market as well, you know, you have to understand that most employers, biggest expense is labor. So if you have free markets and you have people, it's why so many businesses,

it's why you never see Walmart saying it's closed the borders. It's why Publix doesn't say close the borders. It's why Target doesn't say close the borders. Because the more people who come here, the cheaper the labor they have, but also the bigger customer base they have. And that money is just going to be principal. it out of thin air given to these people and they're going they have a new customer base.

If we had 100 million deportations, I mean, it would, the stock market would be, you know, wrecked. And the, and a lot of these businesses would be wrecked. And you know what? At this point, fuck it. It has to be done. There's a, I have something to show on that topic in a second. But, you know, I'll say, Pete, you were just mentioning, you know, we hate talking about economics, but. it's the number one issue in the midterms right now is the economy is the fact that the prices are going up and the sale that the GOP con ink establishment is it's like well you guys just need to buckle up pull yourself up by your bootstraps and maybe your burritos wouldn't cost $20 if you know

you knew how to actually cook for yourself no just unbelievable you know levels of missing the point and deliberately um you know just being so like such disdain you know for your base and for the people who are the backbone of your nation to dismiss their very right opinions about the fact that you know we've printed money out of thin air and there's been 30% inflation in six years since COVID but you know one person who uh did understand uh this issue quite a bit uh was the late charlie kirk and uh here's an excellent clip that was going around uh over the last few days of a exchange that charlie had just a couple of weeks before his death why don't we play this role i don't want white people doing the roof because we're you know i got people complaining it's hot

outside. So why don't you educate me of what mass deportations would do to your industry? There'd be no one to work on the, to build back. We already, we've already seen it in Florida. So then allow me to provocatively then have me tell you how I hear it. Are you telling me everyone in this room is hiring illegal labor? Not everyone, but, uh, I know I have it in the past. Okay, so everyone is saying yes. So, and again, You guys can boom me off stage, and I want to respectfully have it. And if I'm wrong, come to the mic. So is everyone here in this room committing a felony?

Yes. Okay. Good to know. You have proven a very depressing point that we are not a nation that wants to have immigration policy. We just aren't. We're not. Like, we are not tough enough or strong enough to have mass deportations. We're just not.

And I thought that we were, maybe. maybe, but maybe we could have a couple months of it. And look, as far as the compassion thing, I look at it, why is it not compassion to send them back to their country of origin? Why do they have a right to come to our nation? A nation has a right to be able to invite, be able to reject people of their choosing. And as far as the Christian standpoint of it, in Deuteronomy, in Ezekiel, all throughout the scriptures, there's plenty of examples of repelling people from coming to your nation and prioritizing them in your homeland. You know, it really pains me to watch clips like this because it puts into perspective.

And I wrote about this in my article I wrote for the OGC, you know, just hours after Charlie Kirk was murdered. You know, I really didn't appreciate this guy that much when he was alive. And that really, it really sad. Same. Same. Same. Yeah, mea culpa, man. Yeah.

Yeah. I allowed myself, I allowed myself to be clouded by one issue. and I'm a fucking idiot for it. Yeah, yeah. Same here, Pete. Same here. And I'll tell you this much. Like,

we very well might never recover, you know, after that. It was just a complete and total victory for our enemies, both on the left and the right when this guy was murdered. And really is sad to see. But on that point that you were making earlier, Pete, about these guys running these businesses, It's like, you know, the way I'm seeing it at this point is that you really are never going to get around this issue that our economy, which is like completely faking gay at all of our levels. We all know this, right?

You're not going to be able to get it through the American people that we're going to get these mass deportations unless, like, people get paid for it. And what I mean by that is basically what it's going to have to take at this point is a broad announcement. across the country and enforced at the point of a gun basically, okay, everyone who's here illegally in the United States, you have one year to leave, or you're confiscating all of your assets and redistributing them to the taxpayer.

We're taking your house, we're taking all your Pokemon cards that your son has there, we're taking your car, we're taking your 401K, we're taking every last inch of, every last cent that's invested in the United States, and we're redistributing it amongst the American people. And more than that.

Yeah. Yeah. It's going to take, telling every single company down to the smallest business that's employing these people we're actually going to prosecute you yeah that too

and not in the gentle it's going to take 15 years and you're going to get a slap on the wrist kind of way in a very serious way right I think many many of us have worked trades and I don't know when I when I worked

landscaping by some miracle I wasn't working with illegals, right? Maybe that was because it was a long time ago. But there are real companies really hiring real Americans. They exist. And don't let the kind of excuses that we saw on this clip occupy your mind, right? These are people who are whether that's a choice. Do you know who who these people are, Haster? These people are who Cappy would call dude bros. That's who these people are. These guys are dude bros. These are guys who wanted to take the easy route and started their own landscaping company and wanted to cut down on labor as much as possible so they could buy

their $350,000 bass fishing boat. And it's like, dude, listen, your business should have, yeah, your business should have never existed. Okay. If there were a hundred million people less in this country, there wouldn't be a demand for the roofs that you're having for your roofing company. Okay. And there also wouldn't be the supply of labor for you. to undercut American workers with, okay? So tough fucking luck, dude, but I don't really care that Bob and Bobson's, you know, Joe Blow industry, you know, is going under because you can't find a young man to work for 15 cents an hour like you can with Pablo down the street.

Well, Pablo down the street is also perpetuating a scam, right? Yeah. Pablo down the street does very bad work. Oh, yeah. And so that roofing company. gets paid even more to come back a second time and a third time, whether it's him or it's a different company, he's cleaning up after a different company's shoddy work, right? On and on and on.

Talking about economy being fake. Yeah, I mean, this is another point that really needs to be hammered home, especially with people on the right. And I know a lot of people, this is actually pretty fitting here because we got Mr. Dice on the podcast tonight. But I know a lot of our guys come from, you know, first learning about, I feel like a lot of guys, a lot of guys get into our scene in politics. They've come through a libertarian pipeline because the libertarian party was seen as the acceptable form for you to actually address some

of the issues that the Republicans are just not going to be able to face. It's like, oh, well, you know, we can take the best things about economics. And if we just fix the economics of the country, you know, all the rest of our issues are going to be fixed. We all know now that this obviously isn't correct. And we are going to have to have a serious conversation about what capitalism means, what big business means, what quote, free markets mean, what stock, what the stock market means. And it really used to be drilled into people's heads that when somebody said like Ben Shapiro is like, well, the Americans are founded on the free market.

It's like, if you like ask somebody living in this country in 1776 what being an American was like, I don't think they would say, oh, being in American is believing in free markets and working hard. You know, it. Yeah. problem is libertarians putting saying you just have to fix the economics it'll it'll change people's incentives no demographics is destiny the left is right demographics is destiny that's it's it if you fix the demographics you can if you have good demographics you can figure out

the economy that's yep all right um okay any other final comments here fellows on the economy H1Bs all that stuff because the final story we have for the night we're really taking a dip into slop land so get your good takes out now. We delay the slop

any? Nope. We can delay it no longer. All right. Here we go. We knew it was coming. People saw it in the thumbnail. Okay. You know, but we aren't just going to take like the slop angle on this one. Trust me, all right. There is some legitimate, you know, statements to be made on this one.

But none other than our favorite Latina in Congress, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, was in the news this week. Okay. And it wasn't for, you know, reasons like, oh, I'm challenging, you know, the Senate on the legality of the Iran war or the fact that, you know, we're ethnically cleansing people in Gaza and we're helping the Israelis to do it. no, AOC is in the news because, well, she's freezing her eggs. And, you know, it really just shows you, again, we're going to have to have this conversation here. But this is like the platonic form of the modern millennial woman in the United States right here. It's like, okay, I'm 37, 38, however old she is. I am not going to choose to settle down and actually have kids in any way. instead I'm going to inject myself with hormones, go through a very evasive and expensive procedure to harvest my eggs to a point where maybe in the future I will meet Mr. Wright, Mr. Astronaut, Hunter, you know, a shark master guy, you know, Chad Thundercock. And then, you know, I will choose to have my babies. And then, you know, it didn't stop there with AOC getting in the news this week. So she first posts this clip from her living room of her injecting herself and being very very

open and very honest and, you know, talking about the issues facing modern women or what have you. She then proceeds to end her relationship with her five-year-long fiancé. So kick that guy to the curb. And then posted this clip shortly afterwards. And then after posting it, deleted it. Trash-talking her fiance. Let's listen in. By a loser, I mean someone who doesn't respect women, someone who doesn't respect you, someone who doesn't

treat you well, someone that doesn't support your growth as a human being. Again, it's like Maybe she shouldn't have been with a gay guy. All of this could have easily just come right from female dating strategy. No.

100%. It's exactly where this is coming from. No. But you know, one of the better comments that was made about this was like, well, she's running for president. And it's like, yep, pretty much. Pretty much. God, I can't stand this.

tax the rich, you know, that, how much do you think that dress and that purse a cost, you know, when she's at this like very expensive gala and oh my God, the hoop earrings, the hoop earrings. That was a story a while back how much that dress cost and it's in the five figures. Of course. Of course. Every time. So, so the real question is, will the first female president be single? Oh, good, good question. uh, probably president slam pig. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a swap segment. Yeah. It really is a slop segment. But you know, there, there is some, you know.

Was it at the labor secretary that was like that got run out of run out of office because like her interns were running trains on her in the office? She was drunk all the time. That's right. That's right. That was back under. the Biden administration or something? No, that was, this is like five, this is five months ago. Oh, God.

See, our ruling class is just so, like, they're just so not fit for purpose, man. You know, I would like to say unbelievable, but it's very believable. Yeah. We've been talking about legitimacy, right? A lot of the older generations they think of legitimacy as a very nethermacy as a very narrow thing. It comes from the TV, it comes from the radio, you know, it comes from paying lip service to particular institutions. I can't imagine being one of those people, like my parents age, whatever it is, that see these things we're talking about as the behavior befitting

of legitimate elites, right? And maybe we're caught in the American kind of egalitarian myth that we don't have elites, right, that we don't have an aristocracy. That, you know, George Bush might not have been the best politician, but he's the one I'd get a beer with, right? I think that idea is kind of poisoned a lot of the discourse. Yeah, I think you're definitely right. I mean, another person who's talked about this quite a bit, it has been Tucker talking about the WASP elite that actually used to run this country until very recently.

Now, I mean, but I think you're totally right, uh, Haster about, you know, this idea that, well, you even see in the protests, right? It's like no king's protests, you know, like they're, you know, everybody is just democratically elected. We have no people who are in charge and are better than other Americans. It's like, no, come on. Like every regime, every political formula has its elites, has its people in charge. Ours is no different.

And well, actually, let me rephrase. Ours is different in the sense that ours are some of the worst elites that have ever existed in the history of humanity. You know, like, has there ever been another civilization that murders hundreds of millions of its own offspring in the womb to the degree that the United States has in the past several decades? Which also is like the number one issue for women in AOC's age demographic. It will continue to be so. you know, it's, you know, they just passed that, um, uh, abortions up until birth in, Massachusetts, um, earlier this week, I believe was the state, it's one of the M's, Massachusetts or Maryland.

It was Massachusetts. Uh, Massachusetts. There you go. Um, but yeah, I mean, yeah, here we are to getting to the actual meet of the discussion. And we're not just talking about the slop, but, you know, unfortunately, um, uh, AOC is not just a one-off. Um, she's actually more representative of people in her age group than most people would think. There is a whole class of, you know, again, this is like, you know, let's get out your textbooks class. Let's go back to 2018 Manosphere 101 stuff here.

But yeah, all the predictions are in and they're not changing anytime soon that 50% of women come 2030 are going to be a single and childless in the United States. Now, a lot of them are getting these very cushy packages from these fake jobs that all of them are employed at to, you know, freeze their eggs, you know, because we just need more women in the workforce to drive down. There's no job faker than member of Congress. I mean, in the social media era, it's entirely performative. And you got to hand it to her here. I mean, what she's doing is speaking to her true constituency, which is national, not her district. Right. Her district might, is just simply an irritant that she has to use to sort of pretend and get elected.

But nonetheless, she represents, and she's put herself out as a figurehead. You got these old crone feminists like Hillary who were physically unattractive, just dislikable, and had to attach themselves to a man for money and power, which Hillary had to do with Bill. So she's very old news. And I'm sure she sees at the idea that these younger women are sort of enjoying what she imagines is the fruits, are the fruits of her wretched feminist endeavors. But now someone like AOC, she really embodies the central axioms of modern feminism, which are there can be no questioning of female choices in any arena, right?

Whether that's career, whether that's decisions about abortion, whether that's decisions about freezing regs, whether that's decisions about single motherhood, whether that's decisions about not being married, not, you know, living up to this script, which they all claim there's all the societal pressure to get married to have children. We know it's 180 degrees opposite. There's a tremendous amount of societal pressure to not get married and have kids. And we all know the boomer girl dad phenomenon. My little princess is much too good for you know, whoever this red-headed slub is here with AOC in this photo.

But, you know, nonetheless, I mean, she is really appealing to millions and millions and millions of American women. And not only young ones, there's a lot of older ones, even married, who really hate and resent men. I would say, you know, it's a real significant problem, this lack of family formation. And what she's doing is she's advertising as triumphant. She's glamorizing the idea that you don't need to have kids during your younger fertile years, and you don't need a man to have kids. And so she's valorizing one of the central tense of feminism, which is enormously destructive, of course, to society. But, I mean, you know, we all understand that feminism is a political mechanism, has destruction of society as a goal, certainly destruction of the family. So it's pretty interesting.

She's a little bit crafty, I would have to say. Yeah, she's no dumb, dumb, that's for sure. Yeah, the other thing I'll mention on this one, talking about the massive societal pressures to not start and not form families. Of course, we're talking about all the various feminist indoctrination, propaganda, the fact that women, every single woman on this country is put on a drug, basically when they turn 13 or 14 in the form of birth control and are expected to be on it for like the next 15 years of their lives until they decide you know oh I guess well it's time for me now to actually like you know have a kid like the biological urge has been suppressed for so long but then it finally like bursts out of like you know cracks in the hall of this feminist ship you know it's just absolute clown world but you know in addition to that not just the propaganda you know we're talking about the economic issues that are facing young men to start families because you know because, you know, everybody knows this just from a simple hypergamy is that women are not attracted to men who earn less than them.

And that's becoming more and more of an issue in our economy as we, you know, give legs up to women, legs up to foreigners. You know, corporate America is just completely unworkable for young men in this day and age. And then in addition to that as well, you know, this is something we kind of talked about last week where, you know, some of the issues where boomers just refuse to listen to some of the issues that young guys are. are facing. And again, I don't want to turn this into like, oh, it's okay to be a pussy and cry kind of deal. But I don't think there really has been another generation of men in the history of the planet who've had to deal with the open levels of misandry that we have in our countries today. I mean, it is everywhere. And it really does. And I can understand why it gets to people and it becomes very grueling. And guys get very black peeled and go for Elliott Roger. Like, I get it. Obviously,

like, no, we do not endorse violence on the show. But I understand how. people get to that position. Absolutely. I mean, the thing I wanted to add is that it's, it's easy to see a woman like AOC as the, as the villain here, right? But she, she has been completely sciopped into this lifestyle. And she's one of the lucky few

who has the expendable income for something like freezing your eggs and down the line IVF. It's, like you say, when, you know, a girl turns 13, like, here's your birth control. What they don't tell you is the physical and financial cost of this kind of lifestyle, right? I don't have the number off the top of my head, but, you know, it's not a small, like every child you have through IVF is a very high monetary cost. Oh, yeah, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars and it's like a nine times out of 10, it's not successful. right right and and they they tell all we tell all these girls you know just wait you know do your career

first you could have kids later right and if if by some miracle we have you know more than two women in the audience right every year you don't every year you wait to have your child is year you don't get to spend with them right don't don't fall for this it's it's It's a crazy culture, right? The only, you asked earlier, like, is there any, is there been a civilization that kills as many of its children as we do? Right. And the only one that comes to mind is like Carthage, you know, like,

there's a reason these people are hated and there's a reason their civilizations end the way they do, right? It's, I can only pray that the amount of political and social capital these people spend to maintain this regime becomes untenable and it collapses back into a normal human kind of culture, right, where people get together relatively young. They have children relatively young and in a healthy way. Amen. Amen to that.

So, I mean, I guess in conclusion in this one here, you know, I mean, unfortunately, AOC just happens to be the first woman in Congress. in a major political position in the United States to be very open about this freezing your eggs and dumping your man and all that stuff, but she certainly will not be the last. And the reason why she won't be the last is because there actually is a very large political base

that this is very appealing to. Again, we don't have to point out to the numbers, once again, about the huge bifurcation and political affiliation between the Zoomers as relates to men and women. It's like a, what is it, like a now, a 35-point split, basically between right and left among young zoomers,

which is like the widest gap among the sexes we've ever had. And it's probably only going to get wider. But for all of you guys out there in the audience, you know, just try your best. Do not let it get to you, man. I know it can be very black billing. The fact that every single institution, every teacher, every professor, every HR lady, every boss, basically,

It kicks out the ladder from under you, blames you for all of the world's problems. All the women have basically been propagandized into treating you as, you know, basically, you know, subversive at best, if not outright abusive. Now, the best way to get through it really is to find communities of men that you can get through these very tough times with and sort out some of these difficult issues. like it remains like things

relating to courtship or whatnot. You know what has to, it's almost like there should be a space. There should be a space, if you will. A third space. Yeah, yeah. There should almost be a space where guys are, you know, like swapping notes about these things, you know. And if you didn't have a space,

it's almost like the need for that space would have had to be created, you know. Hmm, trying to think putting a name on this one. Maybe a certain sphere, a manosphere, if you will. A man sphere. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, and despite the fact that that space, has definitely been on the decline for quite some time, mostly due to the fact that it's been injected with many foreigners and many nons, shall we say.

There really are still some very, very good guys to recommend and find in that space. And I would point all of our members of our audience to my good friend Ryan Stone, and perhaps even some of Roll Tomassi's earlier work as well, his earlier books, if you guys would like to. get maybe a different perspective on female behavior and why they are the way they are and how you as a man in 2026 can navigate this absolute mind field that is the modern dating marketplace so and also of course everyone join your local OGC chapters no nothing will make you feel better than actually having men that you can meet up with in real life to think the way you do and can help you in any manner of issues. that men are facing today because certainly nobody else is going to help you we're just going to

build it ourselves i was like it's i feel bad man you know like some of these young guys coming up these days who are raised by these single moms who are brought up in the school system who are told to go to therapy who are stuck watching like cable tv and stuff like this you know it's like these guys just have no chance man just no chance at all hey just some of us some let's make it yes indeed um all right Everyone join your local OJC chapters. All right, fellas, that is it for the stories tonight. Let's get on over to these super chats and start reading those. And then we will get out of here.

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To the chickens sends us two bucks. Anyone could update the Crowder crowd on this? on this on this on this issue of um you know uh the the minister stuff you know we do have to do a little bit of gloating definitely on that issue because a crowder is one of those guys who was attacking people like ryanstone was attacking roland tomasi for years on his platform with all this stuff and then he goes through a very very nasty divorce and all of a sudden uh you know doesn't talk about those guys much anymore i wonder why that might be public of course yeah yeah indeed indeed so no uh but no i i basically

know nothing of Crowder these days. Is he even like still around? Does he even watch him? I know nothing about him. I don't want to put that in my algorithm. Yeah, good, good point. Good point. Yeah.

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Absolutely correct. I'll say you forgot one. He's also on Book Club from Hell. which they just did an episode on the diaries of the Columbine shooters. It was very interesting. Really? Oh, wow. I wish I could have made it to the South Central Forum. The live Library of Mass Destruction was one I'll be thinking about for a long time. So drive time, we'll be out.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the live Library Mass Destruction at this year's conference was definitely my favorite of the conference this year for sure. That one was great. Yeah, definitely. big winners for sure. Those are those are smart guys that Christopher Sandbatch and capital issimo let me tell you. Um, Aramig discourse for 10 bucks, uh, says some clip shekels for people who can't count at friends. Well, uh, thank you very much, sir. We, uh, do indeed, uh, enjoy your money. Thank you. Um, uh, let's see, Tankie Caesar for 10 bucks. Got my first

OGC meeting next week excited. Well, you should be. And everyone in the chat should be excited to, to go to a local OGC meetup. You'll have a great time. Pete Budapest for 10 bucks. This is what they do. Get him a good guy to wage war, inflict max damage on their enemy, and then offload all the blame on the people who had nothing to do with it. It's called chutzpah.

Yeah, absolutely. Yep. But you only need to see how many Americans of that particular group actually fought in combat roles in World War II. Yeah. That really is. I've told the story before, you know, about how little eighth grade Red Hawk got in trouble when one of his nuns at the Catholic school he was attending yelled at me for daring to suggest in my eighth grade report about our trip to Washington, D.C., that we shouldn't have spent time at the Holocaust Memorial Museum. And instead, we should have went to the Museum of Natural History instead. And this is just 13 little old me, you know, not based in any way, just making the obvious connection in my brain. Like, why are we doing this? You know, we have. have nothing to do with this. I want to go check out the dinosaur bones and Teddy Roosevelt's taxidermy right across the field here.

This is dumb. Why are we spending three hours here? It's like, Red Hawk, you can't say that. I'm like, well, I just did. And that, you know, if ever there's a book, it's like, that's my origin story, you know, and then. And then. Anyway, um, Bolaro 393 sends us 10 bucks, but it was redacted. Maybe he said a naughty word in his super chat.

Pete Budapest again for a 10 bucks says, Neocan J. David Frum spent the Iraq war attacking anti-war conservatives and front page articles and immediately attacked the Tea Party as soon as Obama was elected. These people hate us more than anything. Absolutely true. Absolutely true. Yeah. Again, that really is just one of those things that is so difficult to get through to people, especially people of the boomer age in the mindset where. you know, this like small government kind of conservatism that people say, well, the people in power, you know, they're really just incompetent and they're really stupid. And don't they see like the policy proposals that they're proposing, you know, are going to have these negative externalities way down the road here. And don't they know all the issues? Yes, they know all the issues. It's done intentionally. They hate you. Okay. If it was an accident, if it was incompetence, things would go in our direction at least once. And they never do. Just by sheer law of,

Law of averages and raw numbers, we would have something go in our direction, but it never does. No. What these people have done to us is intentional. It's done by people who hate us. Never forget that. All right, moving on to Bolero 393 for 10 bucks. He says, brave and loyal Mark Levin has suffered the anti-Trump programs since he came down the elevator. 271,000 of his businesses and relationships have been destroyed.

hilarious. Well done. Well done, sir. It might be the super chat of the night. X-Runner 55, who is always in our gaming stream chats because he is a channel member at the standing back and standing by tier, always being sure to tell us to make sure we quick save before our battles. Thank you, X-Runner. For five bucks, he says, DEI, Baltimore mayor, Brandon Scott is grifting this hard. Lindsay Graham secretly hated a Navy Jag named for an Air Force base.

Oh, wow. I didn't realize that. I know that either. Yeah, naming an Air Force base after a Navy guy that's a, seems like a good way to piss people off. Huh. Yeah. Bliro 393 once again for five bucks.

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announcement that the, uh, Dallas International Airport is now having a feet washing stations and two ends of the terminals, you know, for all of the Muslim, uh, you know, uh, frequent flyers. No, they're going in and out of the airport. No. Just imagine 25 years ago hearing the phrase Muslim frequent flyers. Yeah. The level of betrayal. It's just off the charts.

Seasider sends us $10 in a salute as he does every week. Thank you, sir. You are a real American. Real Americans. Thank you. Pibu to pass again for $10 says, I've said for years, the surest way you know a bill will pass is when North Virginia resident Chip Roy

shows up in his cowboy boots and Yehaw finger pistol vowing to fight like it's root and tootin Texan man Texas Texas really does just give us the absolute worst politicians aside from Ron Paul you know like that man has there ever been like a good politician

that's come out of Texas man I certainly can't name any off the top of my head um let's see um Tal Hollingsworth for 20 bucks. I live in North Texas between the H-1Bs and Frisco and the proposed epic city.

I worked at BFOA and in tech before COVID. I'm not sure what that's referring to. These H-1Bs are not slaves. They live in fancy areas of Frisco traders all around. Yeah, I totally believe it. Totally believe it. It's like the top 10 restaurants in Silicon Valley are all Indian restaurants. Man,

infuriating. Sighthound Siege for the $5.1. 1 super chat. You can tell who, whose chat this guy's coming from. It's a heartfelt. Yeah, that is a heart felt.

Indeed. Suf OGC. There's a lot of Venezuelans in Florida. Nice people, but they give the vibe that they're more loyal to Venezuela than the U.S. In group preference. He had no shit.

Of course they are. Of course they are. We give a lot of, we give a lot of shrift to the kind of hyphenated American, to the Italian-American. to the Irish American, right? But there's something about the new arrival that, I don't know, a good friend of mine is 100% New Jersey Italian.

When he went to Calabria, he was, everyone mistook him for a native, and he had to explain he did not speak a lick of Italian. And yet he is, he is a very quiet American patriot that, you know, he loves to visit the homeland, but, But America, well, New Jersey, for what, you know, say what you will, is his home, right? It's like there, there used to be, there used to be people back then who, well, first of all, they were, they were immigrating to a country that was 91% white.

Okay. So that's the first thing as well. They were actually forced to, you know, take up the culture, forced to be proud, to be Americans. So it was aspirational. It was aspirational. Oh, yeah. There was a sense of pride.

It was an absolute sense of pride for, for those. people and of course you know throughout the ages of you know civil rights era politics where being white is something to be ashamed of you know again like something as innocuous as it's okay to be white is seen as like this amazing you know white nationalist dog whistle and you're just one step away from Adolf Hitler if you say something as obvious as no it's okay to be white something is just obviously true and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever now not a radical position at all and here we have

This is another clip we probably should have pulled up for today. But they got some fucking abuela who's been in this country for 39 years on one of these Democrat platforms today demanding amnesty. Doesn't speak a lick of English. And so what are we doing here, man? As a bleeding heart, right? Like, give me something to work with, man. Like, like, let me, give me something to empathize with. You know, you're, you've been here for almost 40 years and you've refused to, to, to,

speak the language, do you pay taxes? Like, you know, are you a member of your community outside of your racial group, right? Or do you still have, after 40 years, are you still more loyal to your country of origin than the country that's fed you and clothed you and all this stuff? Yeah, I mean, it's no different than all these corporations that send all their jobs overseas, take advantage of the American tax code, the American legal code, just the semblance that it's just, expected that people aren't just going to, oh, I don't know, walk into your shop and steal from you, you know, or the fact that like your Ford factory is going to be burnt down. You know, so you take advantage of all of the American goodwill from the top down,

whether it's the people that live in the communities, whether it's the tax code, whether it's the legal code, and then you just outsource everything overseas. Well, if I'm not mistaken, she was standing in front of a logo for a local church, which just, you know, we're going to have to deal with the church. problem here soon all of them yeah all even the one i'm a member of all of them yeah that's a that's another sad thing too pete uh part of this uh equation that absolutely cannot go and ignored uh unfortunately so yeah that's that's another huge problem too yeah uh all right moving on um let's go to uh x runner once again for five bucks uh he says there was a boomer contractor that would send his illegal hires to

NSA front gate at 9800 Savage Ave Fort Meade Maryland to avoid paying them. That's the there's a viral thing where a woman gets the bunch of illegals to root to do a roofing and then you know calls immigration on them and whether or not that that was real right that's the meme the meme power of that is strong now yeah Let's go to the only woman who listens to this show, Ms. Don Browning, for $20 Australian dollars. She sends us a super sticker of an anthropomorphic video game controller waving hands in the air with whoo-woo, written above it.

So, well, thank you, Mrs. Browning. We appreciate your patronage. Thank you. Lee Silver for five bucks. It says, don't fall for those big old commie knockers. They're designed to trap you. then put your butt in indentured servitude. Yeah, exactly.

Do not fall for the siren call. Gentlemen, don't do it. Also, the other thing that, you know, we, God, we didn't even talk about this because it's just so obvious. I was just like, again, there should just be zero women in positions of power ever. No circumstances. No women politicians. No women CEOs.

No women in charge of the hiring process. Like, just no, absolutely not. It's just so obvious. Look what we're doing here. Now, did Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson could have never envisioned the kind of people that are currently running this country. Now, we're going to make a public spectacle out of one of the most intimate parts of your life of reproduction, having sex and having kids.

And we're going to do it as so trivial as to set up my iPhone on a table and show my audience of millions of young women. Oh yeah, here I am injecting myself with hormones so I could freeze my eggs. Just like, what are we doing here, man? A good friend of many of ours once said things like this should be restricted to, restricted to the elite done in private with a sense of shame. And he might not have been talking about freezing your eggs, but that's what comes to mind, right?

When there's no, there's just no shame with these people. Yep, absolutely none. All right. Rich in the end here, Adrian Shepard sends us two bucks. Did the admin just forget about the Mexican cartel? I don't know. I mean, they say they're focusing on the biggest and the baddest, but I guarantee you there's still cartels chilling in our national parks. I guarantee you that some of these wildfires definitely have something to do with those characters too. I'll tell you that much. It doesn't pass the smell test. If we could just get away from the one hour due cycle and restore a kind of nationwide attention span, I feel like we could get a lot done, right? with stuff like cartels, stuff like organized crime in the United States. But no, that's not the sexy.

That's not the hottest new thing. That's not what everyone's talking about. No. More foreign wars. Yeah, indeed. All right. The American Southwest, our good friend, Thomas Wayne Riley, who is definitely running. I think it's definitely got to be between him and Christopher Samatch, who has the best accent

in the entire scene. But I think Mr. Thomas Wien Riley probably is the winner. dare I say. You can find him on Mondays contributing to American spirits and listen to his podcast as well, the American Southwest. For five bucks, he says, another great stream, gentlemen, thank you and salute. Well, thank you, sir. You are a real American. Real Americans. Yes, indeed, real American. All right. We actually have a member chat here. We don't get too many of these. But yes, if you guys are members, you do get to contribute in the chat, you know, jump the line, so to speak. So we,

We've got, no, I'm not grim from Red Hood, who is in the standing back and standing by tier, says, hmm, it seems like we need some sort of third place, almost like we need some sort of club and old glory club, if you will, locate your local OGC today. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Thank you. Very good. DJs for 10 bucks says no political solution the boomers are old and don't need to be won over it's down to us there are no normies anymore only cowards and those who are in on it looking more and more true by the day you know we're just going to have to build everything ourselves you know the doors will not be made open to us and then we also have to ask the question of ourselves like do we actually even want inside this club or we rather just create our own outside you know do we really really want to kick open the doors of the GOP and storm it or we'd rather just form something cooler

on the side you know these are all questions that need to be answered but anyway okay that is it for the super chance you joining the GOP i mean what are you gonna you're gonna have to have like a friggin hazmat suit from all the jizz that's flying around almost in it yeah uh man oh man uh all right um mr pete what do you have to promote sir um the the long series with Mr. Bagby continues. I think tonight was episode 19 of America's long march to its civil war. And we start talking about some of the most insane of the abolitionists and the reaction to them. So tune in, the Cignonia.

All right. Excellent. Pete is always putting out some excellent stuff. Everyone be sure to listen. Mr. Suna Haster, please do shill the event one more time. One more time. September, I didn't mention the date for the beginning. September 19th.

What kind of salesman are you, sir? I am not the guy for this. It's a little over a month away. September 19th, just outside of Boston, Massachusetts. It's our second annual fundraiser slash banquet. Really, I can't be, I can't communicate to you how impressed I am with everyone involved in planning this. the speaker list is top notch.

If you're a member of the OGC, you know a guy who has the link. If not, just send an email. If you're cool enough, send an email to new Ivy League at Protonmail.com. And if you're cool, we'll send you a link. It's going to be great, and I hope you can be there. All right.

Excellent. So those of you who are in OGC chapters, do please reach out to your regional liaisons and they will get you a ticket to the event. And those who are not, first of all, what are you even doing? Why even in your chat? Yeah, what are you even doing?

Get your head in the game. If you're not a OGC chapter member. But if you're not, do reach out to the email and, you know, if you guys pass the cool test, you also receive a link. And everyone should be going to these conferences. Like I said, you know, the national one is awesome every year that we put on and I'm excited that more and more of these regional ones are popping off so people who can't make it to the national one have an opportunity to meet with other guys in meat space and you know it's also good too because a lot of people are traveling to go to these things too it's not just you know local people as well you know I know a lot of guys who are going across the country just to go to these things which should really tell you something the caliber of these events that you know people you know can go all the across the country for the national

conference but the fact that people want to go even for these smaller regional ones really just shows you the quality of these events for sure and they're definitely worth it all right i just bought my tickets to another uh smaller event that um in a in a part of the country had never been to uh to a city i've never been to and uh really looking forward looking forward to recording back should be good yeah yeah and i and i will tell you that the o gc knows how to put on events and knows how to to take care of business because I've been to some non-OGC events and yeah, I will not be going back. All righty. And our other guests this evening, Mr. Jeff Dice, thank you, as ever for coming on the show, sir.

Always a pleasure to speak with you. Do you have anything to promote, sir? You know, I do. I am part of a dinner speaker series happening in the Atlanta area and a very nice state. If you follow on Twitter 1903, the date 1903 club, the genius behind that is our good friend Buchanan Brigade on Twitter. Some of you know him from OGC. So we're hosting a series of speakers. I'm going to be one of the speakers in December, actually right before Christmas. And I'm going to let you in on a little secret. We are planning a true gala. in celebration of the work and the man Paul Goughreed. Wow. That sounds awesome.

Which is going to be coming, you know, with Providence's help in the spring of 27th. 1903 Club GA is the Twitter handle. All right. Everyone be sure to check that out. That sounds really cool. Yeah. Very awesome. Look at us.

Expanding the kinds of parties and the kinds of events that we are up. putting up really really awesome stuff i continue to be impressed by all manner of people i meet for all different walks of life uh in this thing of ours you know we really do uh an amazing job of uh attracting really the cream of the crop um that the american man has to offer so really amazing stuff okay um you know i guess uh what more do i have to promote well um on sundays you guys can listen to mr charlemagne mr d and myself uh and dr d's cinema it's really one of my favorite things that I've been doing over the last couple of months, you know, taking a break from the political scene where it's just so easy to get pissed in Blackbilt. But we're watching old

movies on Twitter because Twitter doesn't care about copyright infringement. So we just stream the movie right to Twitter and we give some live commentary on it over this past weekend. We watched Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo and that was an excellent film. I'd never seen it before, but very, very good. I would highly recommend people listen in on that one. So if people want to Check that out. Check out Mr. John D's Twitter page and his Rumble channel where you can see the replays. Okay. That is it for us tonight, everyone.

We will be back for another episode, Pone Express Radio, next week. Everyone check out America's Spirits on Monday, Chapter House on Wednesdays, and we'll see you guys next week. Oh, my goodness. One guy flew in under the radar just as I was about to end the stream, my goodness. Darrell sends us two bucks with no text attached. All right. Well, thank you, sir. We appreciate it.

All right, everyone. We will be here back next week. Everyone have a good weekend.