The Pete Quiñones Show - Pony Express Radio 10/01/26 - Shadow of Intent - w/ Joey Oliver

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

110 MinutesNSFWRed Hawk, Pete, and Joey Oliver talk about the headlines.Joey's Book American History Z: Gen Z's Journey to the Far RightJoey on YouTubeJoey on Twitter/XOld Glory Club YouTube ChannelOld Glory Club SubstackOld Glory Club WebsitePete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

The Vetus Dominium Club is proud to announce this October, at a grand hall in the heart of Virginia, we shall again gather for the East Coast Forum. The Fairfax Resolves of 1774 declare that our ancestors brought to Virginia as conquerors, the laws, privileges, and advantageous of their native land, which have descended to us, their posterity. These words echo through history to remind us that our rights are carried in our blood, and must be actively preserved. The challenges our country faces are great. Our resolve is greater.

Nill desperandum, never despair. On October 17th in Charlottesville, join the Orr Glory Club as we gather to light the path to triumph. We will see you there. I like how our chapters are having competitions with ads for their regional conferences and whatnot. it's nice you know so we had the new Ivy League here not too long ago and here we have Vetus Dominium punching back you know the left hook I like it I like this kind of stuff

and also I mean I do have to say you know those of you who are members in the chat have been to our events you will know that gentleman he's got quite a voice quite the gift of the gab so I think he did a pretty good job with that ad right there and I don't want to spoil too much but that's going to be a fun event they got a pretty cool venue picked out dare I say so If you guys want to join the East Coast Forum, please do reach out to your local regional liaisons. And we can get you guys tickets to the event. Our regional conferences are always a blast. I recommend everyone to be there.

And yes, chat, I know we are late, but we are indeed not fake. And we most certainly are not gay. But welcome back to another episode of Pony Express Radio. We had to take last week off. We'll probably talk about it a little bit on the show. The thumbnail kind of betrays it a little bit. But we kind of just had to celebrate by playing Haley. amongst ourselves and our secret servers because 343 and the dreaded Halo Studios was finally destroyed.

A great moment in video game history. And you know what? We're just like, ah, no, we don't really want to talk about the news anyway, to hell with this. You know, let's go hang out. But anyway, Pete, how are you, sir? Welcome back. Uh-oh, we lost them. They took them out.

It's good to be back. I'm sure that, you know, a lot of people aren't happy about that. But here I am. they're just like ah you know we're sick and tired of the show it's over you know we want to go on forever no no we're here to suffer uh for the behalf of the audience Pete we're stuck in here we're stuck here together anyway and we got our good friend mr joey oliver right when coalition is here with us this week how are you doing my friend good man glad to be here thanks for the invite yeah damn we're happy to have you on before we get into the topics for this week of course we need to

keep the lights on here at OGC Central. So from the top, as ever, I think the official day of fall, falls finally in the air, the leaves are starting to change colors or what have you. So white boy summer has come to an end, but you do need to be prepared for white boy winter, which is coming up. Everyone knows the white man gets a strength from the cold. And the best way to up your strength for the cold days ahead is through Axios for both fitness and coaching.

Link of course is in the description where those boys will whip you into shape. On top of that, if you guys need your, caffeine fix. You must head over to Fox and Sons Coffee. For all of you coffee drinkers out there, be sure to give our guys some love. One product, of course. We are big fans over here. OGC. is tobacco.

We are pro-digit tobacco on this program. And with that, we must endorse our good friends over at Alp nicotine pouches. Link again is in the description. The only product that gets me through tax season, dare I say. In addition to that, we were talking about our local regional

events and regional conferences, and even our national ones. You can always tell who is wearing an MS. Vindrillo suit. They really are the sharpest dressed men at any of our conferences. So definitely be sure to check that out. MS. Vindrill, link is in the description. And then finally, you must give patronage to our good friend, Mr. George Bagby, for his publishing house Tall Men Books. If you were looking for some fantastic American history books, I was fortunate enough to pick up some of these, actually, at the Wisconsin event not too long ago where Mr. Bagby was in attendance. He's been working very, very hard to bring these books that you cannot get anywhere else,

mind you. He's worked tirelessly to bring these books back into print, so you must head on over to Tall Men Books if you were interested in all manner of American history for the 19th, 18th, 20th century, all of it. Some really cool stuff in there. Alrighty, fellas. So, a theme for this week, you know, the midterms are coming up. We are about one month away.

It's like it's like 32 days away from the midterms. That's definitely going to be part of the major conversation we have tonight. And the first place we have to start. I was making illusions earlier to why we were gone last week as a moment in video game history. But, you know, this week, the GOP, specifically Sarah Huckabee Sanders, declared war on all gamers everywhere this week with this horrendous ad that was going. I mean, it is quite funny, though, some of the memes with Brad, this character. that we've seen in the aftermath, but let's first watch what the GOP is looking.

I'm sure the Arkansas men are loving this ad and are really excited to go vote for the Republicans in one month's time. Let's watch. You want some of this? Get that. Come on. Me, Brad. Brad has turned relaxing into a full-time profession. But you, you actually work hard.

You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work. That's why I launched a welfare-to-work requirement. Almost there. Now, more Arkansases are working than ever before. Even Brad. You know, there's so many places to start with this, number one. I mean, the first thing you can tell is just the aesthetics are way off with any modern games. For sure you can just tell it was immediately made by a boomer, right?

But aside from that, we obviously have to talk about the main elephant in the room here, right? We've talked about this on the show many times before, the concept of the acceptable target, right? We all know why Sarah Huckabee Sanders chooses to pick the young white guy as the perpetrator of welfare fraud and sitting on his ass and being lazy in this ad. We all know the statistics. We all know which demographics in the United States are the ones most likely to abuse the welfare system. We all know which ones are not working. We all know these things, but the Republican Party is obsessed with catering to every single minority under the sun and despises, despises with a hatred passion of a thousand burning suns the people they are meant to be representing in this system. They hate their base of young white men.

They hate them so much. It's perfectly on display here. We all know it's not the young white guys who are using the welfare system. We all know it's immigrants. We all know it's black people. We all know it's every other shit. Yep, yep. Thank you.

Thank you. Sure. You know, in the background. Initial thoughts, gentlemen, on this character here, acceptable targets. Please take it away Mr. Oliver. Well, you know, I mean, the obvious hypocrisy in the response from kind of the MPC, Normy, GOP types like the Joel Berry's where they say, we can't do identity politics because we'll piss off the identities that have already formed.

So we instead have to attack the apparently neutral group that is white people. And obviously, I mean, that can get recited about, you know, ad infinitum. But what bothers me so much about so much of the current discourse is the inversion of reality that we see. So it's not like they portray like some, you know, middle-aged Mexican woman or whatever. even moderately aligned to reality. It's the least likely demographic to be on welfare. Is there demonstration for who's on it? And you see this applied throughout so much of the political discourse. And I just cannot stand it. It's so beyond infuriating just being

marginally incorrect. That's that's what really bothers me, you know, amongst the other basic things of this. This will probably be a theme with me tonight. But I have been, I haven't told that Trump getting elected is a repudiation of the GOP doing this. We have a new GOP. No, we don't. The regime exists. The regime hasn't gone anywhere.

The regime has been there for 100 years. the regime that gives all the Gibbs to Browns. It's not, it's right there. And then, I mean, do we even need to talk about the end of the first Trump term? Who did he pardon? Oh, not the J6ers. Every fucking rapper that, you know, somebody whispered in his ear about. Man, that's the most brown-coded thing I've ever heard.

The thing that's also very frustrating about this, right, is that, you know, You know, Joey, you were mentioning Joel Berry, right? And one of his responses to this was, oh, well, you know, white guys, you kind of just have to accept that this is how politics is played right now, but you can't form an ethnic block in your own interest. So you kind of just have to take it on the chin. You know, be the tough guy, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and say, you know what, it's okay for the GOP to make fun of me in this way

because all these other groups here are just too precious for us to alienate, So we just have to throw the white guy under the bus, and that's how we're going to get these other groups on board. It's like, fuck you, man. On the conservatives. They need to go. They all need to go. Every single one of them. Yes.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fairnight, indeed. Yes. They take young white men, they take them for granted. They know that any self-respecting white guy, you know, I mean, everybody's talking about this with the Gen Ziers. either fascists or their trunes, basically, right?

No, it's like they take for granted that these guys, like, oh, well, of course they can't vote for the Democrats. They're going to have to vote for us. They've got nowhere else to go. So, of course, we can shit on these guys. Of course we could tell them, you know, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Of course we can tell them, oh, you guys are all lazy welfare bums who are living in mom's basement.

You know, are we going to talk about the, I don't know, the discrimination these guys have been fighting against their entire lives as it relates to the education system as it relates to the hiring practices. We were covering on the show a couple weeks ago, the August job numbers and job growth in the United States, where it was something like 95% of all jobs generated in the United States in the August, aside from the agricultural industry, which is all run by illegal foreigners anyway.

It was given to women in the United States. It's like, oh, yeah. Exactly. They did. They did. Trump himself did. There's clips of it. You can see it right now. Oh, yeah, it's great. Women love me.

It's like, well, that's cute that women love. love you dude but if you actually want to have any semblance of a society uh you know there's there's just literally no argument whatsoever for putting women in the workforce if you want your country to survive there's just literally none yeah yeah and i think a lot a lot of these conversations you really notice the my heart part on this quite a bit but you notice the theological devotion that the republicans and broadly all liberals have at this point where they could never even entertain a question like that because their premise is that this egalitarianism is intertwined with reality in a way that like to even propose something like that is to violate natural law

through their own lens. And I think that those sorts of questions and issues when when they're brought up in terms of the functionality of their ideas genuinely scares them. And I mean, With an advertisement like this, as I said, who are the only net contributors to the entire system? What is it basically just white and Asian guys at this point? Where is the aside from obviously the sinister actors, what is the calculation even into how this translates into success? I don't see any strategy besides these people are a acceptable. target and there actually is something to this as a as a young white guy myself we do seem to be more immune to the to the hate i think if any other demographic received 10% of the hate we did i mean

there'd probably be blood in the streets so they just keep keep expecting that that docility to remain but i think a lot of us are at the point where we say there's an element of self-respect here and you know, keeping your dignity intact that I just don't really care. I'm not going to go along with it to preserve whatever nonsense they want to, they want to keep, you know, keep bad. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a topic when we get into one of our stories coming up here is pretty soon about dignity and self-respect. But, you know, this is one of the things that I've tried to inject in this conversation

quite a bit. You know, we've talked about boomers for a long time over the last couple months on this show for a multitude of reasons because they just keep sticking their foot in their mouths as it relates to the biggest issues that are facing the Republican Party as it relates to the midterms, number one being the cost of living and number two being the Iran War, as we've mentioned on the show for over a year at this point, how this is a bad idea and it's not going to look good in the midterms and you're really going to have to climb uphill for the rest of Trump's presidency. In addition to that, if you are going a big fan of J.D. Vance, you sure are making it almost impossible for him to win the election in 2028, let alone even a primary. if this is what you're leaving with him at this point. But the very frustrating thing about this is just like you were saying, Joey, he's like, these young guys have been told literally since they were out of the womb, that they are responsible for all of the woes that are befallen every single group

in the entire world aside from themselves. You guys are responsible for all the problems that women have. You guys are responsible for all the problems of Mexicans, all the blacks, everybody in the Middle East, all the Jews, everybody in the entire world, their faults are laid at the feet of white man. And this really is something that you should stress to boomers when you talk to them about, you know, the differences that the young people have in this time than it wasn't their age. It's like you actually had some semblance of a culture when you were growing up that was actually there for your interests, okay, as white men.

You know, there were people in the workforce who would actually train you in a job. There was barriers to entry that were almost non-existent for things like, oh, well, I bought my house for $15,000 and I made that money busing tables at the local cafe. And if I could do it, you could do it too, you know, all this kinds of stuff. Okay. The country is openly hostile to you if you are a white man in the United States. Everywhere. Your women have been taken away from you, then brainwashed into hating you. Your political party that is supposed to represent you, hates you, and wants to toss you as something.

side for any other special interest group that just walked over the border five minutes ago or, you know, has rich, has deep pockets somewhere halfway across the world. Okay. And it's like, okay, well, you know, this is just supposed to be our reliable voting block literally for forever, you know, you can't go anywhere else because the Democrats are going to destroy the country. It's like, well, the Republicans are destroying the country too. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we worried about Democrats for? I have been told that the left has been destroyed. Woke is dead.

Yeah. Yeah. I've been told that, oh, we have to, we have to vote. We could talk about that later. Yeah. Dr. Steve Terley just joined the show. The unstoppable rise of the new conservative age is coming, guys.

There is one thing I want to add on to that that is particularly frustrating to me that I've noticed. even though some boomers that would maybe consider themselves conservative, whatever that even means at this point, but underlying their perspective, especially on this topic, it's still tethered to this idea that, well, if you were really talented, you would have overcome these hurdles. And that I think probably stands as the most sinister roadblock for them to actually, you know, mobilize into doing anything or even advocate for it. Because it implicitly tells them that you have to be basically accommodating for your mediocrity because you're conceding that you haven't been able to overcome those hurdles. and their perspective on it is there's always going to be hurdles, therefore the hurdles I have maybe placed differently than yours, but they are the same in kind and in degree. It's just maybe in a different location.

That has to break for them to understand that very talented people are genuinely being locked out, as you said, in a way that is not recoverable and not surmountable in almost every single category. Absolutely. It's a very, very good point. Now, it's almost like this. People will often talk about the, kind of like the big dicking that people get into in the sense of everyone,

the boomers are constantly trying to one up their own kids or their own family members. It's like, well, you know, if I could do this and you could surely do it. It's like, well, I mean, maybe, but we're also playing different games. It's like, I'm playing chess and you're playing checkers, you know, pretty much. So maybe there are some things that we could have comparisons with. Maybe there's other things that are different. Maybe there's other things that are slightly different and just require a little bit of tweaking compared to the issues that you were facing in your time.

But instead of having like an exchange back and forth and some suggestions and listening to the other side, actually having a dialogue between each other and crucially giving other people a one-up in certain positions that aren't as accessible to boomers in the sense of things like, oh, assisting people with the housing market or the job market or hiring amongst like, you know, nepotistically, you know, quote unquote, right? Something that every other group is just expected to do, right? But it's like frowned upon basically for people like us, right? Now, and the other problem in getting back to this ad as well is that basically the entire thing that is trapped in the minds of boomer conservatives is this idea that if we were just complete and total egalitarians,

but we just had smaller government, everything would be okay, which is obviously not true. Okay. The country is tearing on the edge of a knife as it relates to the demographic replacement of white Americans in their own country. The official numbers float between 52 and 55%. I think if you're, you know, even just walk outside and go to any public place in America, you know those numbers are bullshit, right? Yeah, you know, it's just ridiculous.

Okay. Yeah. It's just, it's all just very, very frustrating dealing with this kind of stuff. And, you know, I wish it wasn't the case, but it just seems like every single day, Vox Day is just proven more and more right. It's like the day of the pillow is really how it's only going to be, you're going to see change in the Republican Party and the GOP. It's just the only way.

You know, these people just have to be removed. And then one quick thing before I hand it over to you, Joey, is that one other thing about this too uh Sarah Huckabee Sanders has a work today in her fucking life dude don't don't give me this bullshit for a fucking second man you know people talk about you know like men and women sports and what have you women in politics is more insulting in every single way great point yeah I am I think there's there's so much there of course another particularly disgusting element of this is the fact that they take pride in these

sorts of displays of degradation. They hate youth, I think, out of pure jealousy. And that's, it's almost like it's like how elderly women have that sort of jealousy reflex. You see it reflected, I think, overall in the generation. That's where a lot of that distaste comes from. But a lot of these people are just patently unimpressive. Even the ones that I've seen success, exceed, of course, there's outliers, but their method of success was just stumbling into it. Like they started working at Microsoft in 1995 and retired in 2008 and their stocks were all a sudden worth like 35 million and the highest they ever got to is like senior manager of some small division. It's just like total accidental success. Sam Hyde has a great point in that

he said basically, if they were so fucking smart, then why didn't they buy 10 of those houses that they ended up making 900k on but none of them did of course they only bought one um and and huckabee sanders is again another example of this manufactured elite and there are so many of these people that enter the power realm that being politics they didn't do anything that preceded their status this is why military success was often a prerequisite to leadership in the ancient world because it was, it was competence proven and, um, and bestowed you with a level of prestige that otherwise couldn't be replicated just through like winning, winning an election. The old saying of,

of fame is the perfume of heroic deeds. I get so demoralized when I see people like this, or even someone like Brandon Gill, who I think is, and I'm not meaning to take shots necessarily, but the point is that they are being hoisted up as a figure only because they fit that role well, not because they have built the foundation that would garner that respect and that prestige. And you see that with the boomer generation throughout. And the grossest thing is that they act as if they were self-made. And it's just like at this point, I mean, you're referencing the day of the pillow. I don't even think there's any utility in arguing, even having a discussion at this point.

It's a it's a waiting game now. Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, that is. Yeah, the older generation, the fact of how much wealth they've accumulated and how much they have socked away. and they're definitely not passing it down to their children. You know, I mean, everyone knows somebody who is. But, you know, you see so many people like the Joel berries of the world,

when they talk about how, oh, you shouldn't be proud of anything that your ancestors did, basically how I hear that is, is like, if you want to inherit your dad's business, you should be buying it off of him. Yes, yes. Because you're, well, you don't have a right to that. You don't have a right to be proud of anything. You definitely don't have a right to own what your, what your dad built. You didn't build that.

They're fucking Barack Obama. Totally. They're literally Barack Obama. These people are fucking scum. And I mean, you know, I, when I think about them, I have really, really bad thoughts that I don't want to have. But these people are the, the, it's just so frustrating. I mean, it's like you guys were talking about earlier.

It's just so frustrating that each one of these people thinks that they are basically like, you know, Wall Street dude bros who are excellent financiers. But it's like, dude, you know, you grew up in a time where land was cheap and labor was expensive when a quarter of the entire working population of the planet was wiped out in the Second World War. It's like in America was hardly touched by this. So it's just it's just so unbelievably frustrating for these people to act as like these amazing, crazy financial wizards.

And it's just not the freaking case, man. And then taking joy and watching their progeny just slip away. Well, and you even look at the, I guess the criteria of their achievements. And they managed to, broadly speaking, they managed to accumulate that wealth by undergoing basically no risk. And I think that is also a marker

of their misunderstanding about the nature of reality. They think that you can have all that positive payout without any of the stakes required to do it in any other context. But, you know, one thing that I, and I'm curious what you guys would think about this, because I grew up, and maybe this is part of my personality dispositionally, but I wanted to have the kind of the self-made ethic in the sense that like I didn't want to be, not because I didn't respect him or anything, but I didn't want to be like my dad or in that way because I wanted to kind of be my own person.

And I think that is reinforced across the board, as in it should be the, it's like seen as the highest path. But I don't think it is at all. And I think once that generation goes, like you were saying, Pete, we need to reintegrate our, not just our appreciation for our past,

but see nobility in, something like, you know, passing your business on down to your kid, even if there's some 140 IQ Chinaman that could do it marginally better, doesn't matter. Like, there should be, that should be an obligation in a sense, just as the descendant and the receiver would have an obligation back. But, you know, there's something actually pretty beautiful in my eyes about being, you know, the 20th generation blacksmith, you know, my father and his father beforehand. I'm like there's a romantic element of that that we've totally just gotten rid of.

And it's sad to see because you should be able to take pride. Obviously it shouldn't formulate your entire perception of yourself to the sense, in the sense that now you don't need to do anything supplementary. But the point is, is like we shouldn't degrade that. We should want to foster that passing of tradition, obviously. I mean, these things are so obvious when you think about it. Yeah, it really is that, you know, as much as we do harp on the boomers for, you know, things like radical individualism, it really isn't their fault in the sense that this was the spirit of the age. This was the culture was forced upon them.

And, I mean, me, I'm a millennial. We definitely got a triple dosage of this. And I could speak to my own perspective growing up. And I know a lot of other guys who felt the same way is that, you know, it was frowned upon. like in your social group it was frowned upon in all the media you watched it was frowned upon even like the expectation that your own parents had of you to go and work in the same kind of business the same kind of shop as your dad did the expectation was go to college go work in New York go work as a finance bro go

work in some kind of white collar gig or something like that and you know it's I'm really the fault of like our parents either in that regard for trying to send all their kids to college because that's literally what everybody was saying there was no internet back then there was no alternative you know uh means of acquiring this kind of of information you know most people just went on autopilot and that's what the autopilot was telling people at the time the advice that we can give now to a lot of the young people is basically like you basically just have to ignore all the adults basically because they don't know what they're doing they don't know what they're doing they grew up in totally um they grew up in circumstances they're

so unbelievably different to what yours are now you know it's important to maintain, you know, a great chain of being throughout the generations, but I'm sorry. Like, I'll take an example like the women, for example. Just basically ignore everybody over the age of 35 as it relates to dating right now. Oh, totally. Well, the, you know, the whole thing, the closer you get to a city, the more deracinated you become. So, like, if you really want to see people who, like, they're, they're carrying on what

what their family did, their dad teaches them the business, and then they just pick up on it. They live on the land that their families live for 200 years, you have to go rural. Basically, what the social engineering regime has done in the last 100 years is you gotta go and be in the right zip code. There's certain zip codes that show that you're a success.

And if you don't live in that zip code, you're not a success. And, you know, your family farm, your family property, where all your relatives are buried, how much is that worth now? You should be selling that. So you could go buy, you could go buy something in the suburbs of some frigging city that's fucking overrun by frigging nons. Because you need to be as close to nons as possible.

You know why? Because you're going to have to support them. Your taxes are going to have to. So this is all part of the social engineering regime. When I meet somebody and they're like, yeah, I do exactly. You know, my dad had, you know, my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler now. My dad was a watchmaker. And I'm a watchmaker now.

When I like watch like documentaries about like these old European companies where like literally they've been doing the same thing for 200 years, I'm like, this is so foreign to us. Because we've been so engineered into becoming, you know, just little widgets for, you know, the people who run this government and the people who own this government, that it's... Each of us are rugged individuals that have no group identity whatsoever. We got to our position purely by our own merit. It has nothing to do with the broader culture as a whole, a healthy society giving people like up.

Because, you know what? In a healthy society, there was running. in our interests, yes, everybody could hypothetically live lives the way the boomers did if the country is actually run in our interests, right? And we didn't have all these artificial barriers that were being set up by people who hate us to, you know, oppress other people like ourselves, you know, the actual inheritors of this country. But one of the other things I want to piggyback off what you're saying, Pete, I think one of the other things is really important in this conversation when you're talking to boomers like this, and especially when you're

talking about things like, oh, going into a family business or something like that, I think one of the things that really one shot a lot of like millennials and zoomers being raised by business owner parents is that there was kind of like this expectation when the boomers were growing up that, you know, you would just pick up kind of things like this via osmosis, you know, just being around country. Like, I'll give a great example of this, okay? I know basically fuck all about cars. I know basically nothing, okay? And my dad actually knows like quite. a bit about cars and stuff like this and he learned a lot about cars because when he was a kid everybody just wanted to like you know get out go enjoy themselves go to the record store pick up a rolling

stones album or something and you knew a guy and you knew a friend and there was no internet at the time there was no you know vast um you know space with the entire infinite with the entire accumulation of human knowledge to you know basically uh give you a hyper focused interest you know to that degree so people who growing up in our age, we didn't actually pick up these kinds of things through osmosis. We didn't pick up things that most people at their age would have picked up. We wouldn't have picked up things like, you know, what the music of everybody was listening to because everybody had iTunes. They could listen to literally anything that they wanted or something about like the latest

thing that was going on in the movies or something that was going on with cars or something like this because you could hyper focus on a certain thing because you had access to it to the way that nobody else could in the world. So this expectation that, oh, you would just take things in from the wide. or culture, well, the internet kind of destroyed that and all this rugged individualism did as well. That's a great point. And I think there are so many elements of society that have been stripped away that we don't even understand their importance. Like, if you think about it like this, if some hit song, let's say it has like 10 tracks on it, like in that there's like, you know,

vocals, drums, whatever. If you start taking. away things. Let's say you start taking away the baseline. Is it still a great song or you know, you take the guitar fill away? At what point does it cross over into no longer being what it once was? And I think that that's happened to a great deal with regard to our culture. And because it has been taken for granted for basically all of history, you know, whether the medium has changed, it obviously has, but whether it's shared music taste from the radio or from the campfire. It's like once that goes away, we don't have a totalizing view of how this works. So these components are gone and obviously there's negative effects and we can't even identify

what the negative effects are because we don't even know what it did in the first place. And like, I don't know. I mean, a lot of people have brought this point up. So I don't know who it's directly attributed to. But like this is truly the most complex and expansive social engineering experiment ever. We have no idea. Like we are walking into the fog right now. We have no idea how these things affect us. And it's genuinely scary. And I feel like we missed out on so many things that would have really kind of connected the dots for so many people previously. I mean, I've said before, and I think I believe this, like I would probably rather live in a village on the English countryside in the 12, 1,300s or whatever compared to now because things were oriented in a way in which

the, I guess, more spiritual side of what you need as a human were provided for you, thus giving you a more complete, you know, experience in life. Whereas now, I am totally devoid of it, totally devoid of all tradition, habit, everything, and we don't even know it. And we don't even know what the effects of it are. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you just look at something as basic as family formation, you would absolutely want to live in, you know, 12th century England compared to today.

Well, just for something as simple as that, you know, something that has been so radically upended and changed in the last 100 years compared to the last 100,000 years that human beings have been around. Well, you know, it's crazy. Ted Kaczynski answers the chat again. Yeah, really? Totally. I'm curious what you guys think about this.

Growing up, I had, I don't know how it applied to you, but I remember the parents in the neighborhood or whatever, you know, I guess broadly speaking, were very against the idea of young love. Like you were about to go to college, somebody had a girlfriend, and they'd say, well, basically, foregone conclusion, you guys are going to break up and, you know,

you'll date other people. And I thought that that was just the nature of reality. And then recently, I remember kind of thinking about it and realizing that's an extremely novel circumstance. Like the idea that when you're 18, all of a sudden you just get, you know, assuming somebody goes to college, right, you just get ripped apart and sent, you know, with a whole new collection of people. And basically the girls go to what is essentially just a whore mill at this point. Like, it's so bizarre, and yet I was led to believe that that was just kind of how things were. And that's one thing that really discussed me looking back on us. And it was really the mothers, that mothers of the daughters that pushed it of this,

like, you need to go out there experience. We all know what that means, right? But anyway, like, there's so many facets of life that I've noticed growing up that though it seemed like just the way things were, in actuality, were completely new circumstance that really hasn't even been replicated before on a large scale. Yeah, excellent points all around. Good discussion. You guys are getting your money's worth in the chat tonight.

But we must move on here. And the next part that we should move on to, keep the anger flowing here. Keeping up our discussion on the midterms, all right. Um, let's, why don't we listen to a good friend of the show, Mr. Mark Mitchell. People know him as a people's pundit, you know, um, guy who formerly, uh, was working for Rasmussen, uh, before they booted him for being two-based, uh, in the last year. Um, he's going to talk to us about something that you've seen in the last week here. This argument has been coming up about, um, a one Vivek Ramoswamy.

We'll get more to him shortly here. But the idea being that, oh, well, the real time to fight, the Republicans was during the primaries, okay? Primary season, okay, is how are we going to fix the Republican Party and unsee all of these troublemakers and what have you? Pay no attention to the fact that, you know, the primary for Darlene Graham was past to the point that she won her seat by like 75%. So, I mean, yeah, that's a great track record for getting rid of some of the most odious members of Congress, right? But let's hear what Mark Mitchell has to say, describing this chart he has in front of us here. They want people to support Susan Collins

who just voted against the SAVE Act. They're like, no, you have to vote Susan Collins in or Democrats will destroy the country. And the arguments I hear are like, well, the Democrat wouldn't vote for the SAVE Act either. And it's like, I know that's a problem. But if the Democrats in or Susan Collins in, and neither condition are you getting the SAVE Act.

It's just not going to happen. but if the Democrats in in six years you could unseat them three times more likely than unseating Susan Collins in a primary and then in six years you could get your vote for the sayback that's the way it works under our political system and so uh you know I guess you just have to like not fall prey to the scare tactics and at the end of the day what we're talking about here is like maybe there's a little bit of accelerationism like maybe things maybe the pot of water that the frog is in is just not hot enough for the political change that we need. But I for one don't mind seeing Republicans sweat for a little bit, you know,

because I was certainly sweating under Biden. Like it was not a fun time and, uh, no accountability. That's the problem. We don't have any accountability for this stuff. So I thought that was a pretty good slide. I thought it was an interesting analysis. I haven't seen anybody else cover it.

Uh, but it pretty much blows a hole in that argument. Like screw those people. every single one of these arguments is a false dichotomy basically too i just absolutely hate it one last peruse well so that's the same that's the same stream where there was a super chat and it was the same as one of these scumbags on twitter or even in some of the group chats i'm in who came to mark mitchell and said why are you lying accusing everyone of lying when all it is is projection because they're lying about everything.

Why? I mean, oh, oh, Trump turned everything. Everything's being turned upside down. That's why you still have to vote for the lester of two evils. Everything's being turned upside down. We're winning. That's why you, that's why you have to vote for the brown guy. The Iran war was going to be over in two weeks, two weeks to slow the spread of Iranian.

missiles, Pete. Okay. You know, wasn't it going to affect the midterms at all. Yeah. What do you complain about the Iran war? They've been at war with us for 47 years.

It's not like they're still frigging, you know, Stephen, what's his name? Stephen, the Jew. Miller? Yeah, Stephen Miller. Isn't it amazing? Isn't it amazing how you guys knew exactly what I was talking about?

He still has tweets. up to say, if you don't, if you don't vote for Trump, we're going to war with Iran. Yeah. Let's take a look at this chart here a little bit more and actually describe what Mr. Mitchell was breaking down here for us. So basically what you're looking at here in the yellow bar right there is GOP incumbents ousted during the primaries. And then you'll see in the blue line is seats flipped to Republicans in the general election. So the argument here basically, you have a three to one better chance of removing a problem. GOP person in power, if the Democrat takes their seat and then you have the next round

next time because people don't like to vote for people who were losers last time. It's much easier to get your way in because you're not fighting the entire system. I mean, we just looked in the case here with Ken Paxton when John Cornyn received $100 million from the GOP and then they refused to give Paxton a red cent. And it took Donald Trump, like getting his arm pulled, basically, just to even give Paxton the endorsement here. So this is basically the argument here. I mean, I could see definitely some valid points for this one.

I can see valid points the other way. But to just say here and completely ignore the side of the discussion and try and say like, oh, well, you see Ohio people are stuck with Vivek because people didn't actually vote in the primaries. And so now you have to vote for Vivek because reasons, right? It's like, no, this is ridiculous. We all know it's extremely difficult to get rid of some of these incumbents. I mean, look what happened with Lisa Murzowski up in Alaska where she literally lost her primary and then she organized a campaign to have herself be the written-in nominee

during the election day and got herself re-elected. What are we talking about here? We all know that one of our guys, for example, okay, who has no connections in with Washington, who has no connections in with the GOP establishment, who has no connections in with even like their local political party and understands, you know, how to canvas and how to gather votes and how to campaign or what have you. You mean to tell me that it's just so easy as, oh, just, just show up guys or you're just complaining on the internet you just need to show up and go for your um um your local race and you could unseat these people through the marketplace of ideas like get the fuck out of here man come on that's so dishonest it's a level of dishonesty i think that can only

be attributed to one one uh at least spearheaded by one particular group of people because it's just to say shameless um is uh is maybe the understatement of of of the the decade. But yeah, I, uh, it's, it's hard. Like I, I do go back and forth in terms of, in terms of what is the right move because, I mean, you can make an argument procedurally that it's, it's better to, for the right to remain in power. But like at this point, I don't think, uh, I don't think my own, uh, dignity can allow me to, um, bend the knee here. Because what, what the, I guess, mainstream GOP is really saying when they tell you, you know, just do what we say or disregard whatever issue that you're making a bigger deal

than maybe otherwise would be is they're just saying, bend to my will, accept my dominance in this regard and shut up about it. And I don't know. I just can't do that for much longer. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And again, you know, this isn't like a retarded argument that everybody needs to go switch to the Democrat party and start voting for Democrats.

Okay. That's obviously now any of this is. And also there's a good counterpoint to this as well saying like, you know, accelerationism probably isn't necessarily the wind that people might think it is because, you know, you look to places like South Africa, for example, where there's still liberals even there, right? So, yes, there are definitely some holes to poke in this. But I think just looking at the numbers itself, you know, of how to get rid of GOP people. I think in a lot of these seats, especially in the state level, at the state level, I mean, it's really too much of a difference between, you know, a Dem or Republican in some of these districts. I mean, especially ones that flip back and forth basically every two years. I don't know. Maybe it would be strategic to actually have some of these people lose. I mean, the example he was giving right here, like Susan Collins, for example, it's like, dude, are you kidding me?

Susan Collins literally is a Democrat. Literally. She's just got to R next to her name. This is like, what? I got to vote for her because like a Democrat would be worse. It's like she's literally fucking Democrat. Dude, if you're not voting for you're turning out, man. Yeah.

You're truning out. I mean, it's amazing to me that some of the same people who were defending Bo French are now telling you to vote for Vivek. Yeah, we might as well get into that discussion. Because, I mean, this whole fucking thing about, how, oh, if you talk about Jewish power, that's brown-coded and you're a third-world-dest. But no, we need you to vote for the fucking literal third-worldest in friggin Ohio. Go fucking embarrass yourself, white man.

Go be a, go be, go cuck to the fucking, to the NEPO, not to the NEPO baby, but the fucking. Skinner. Yeah, I mean, talking about, talking about Jews is, is safe edgy, Pete, I've been told. I mean, literally, fuck every single one of these people. Go fuck yourselves. You motherfuckers, all you care about is you think you're going to,

oh, I'm going to be the next administration. I'm going to be making millions in it. I'm going to be getting in. I mean, I know some of you are already working for an NGO and your little fucking group chats and you get together and you attack people. You attack good people too. You can go fuck yourselves.

Go find yourselves exploring to go somewhere else because I don't want anything to fucking do with you. Go exploring. But fuck you, man. Fuck all of you. Oh, oh, Bo French needs to be, both French needs to be defended for what he said. Now go

fucking, now go vote for the jeet. Go vote for the fucking anchor baby. Go vote for the guy who says you're a piece of shit, white man. You don't fucking work as hard because you're watching saved by the bell. You were, you were hanging. Fuck. All

you motherfuckers. Fuck all of you. Let's go. It really is just so frustrating when the same people will try to attack people like us who rightly bring out, bring attention to the extreme power that the Jewish lobby has, not just in America in general, but particularly in the Republican Party. Okay. And people will try and say this like, oh, what are you brown?

What are you third worldist? What are you thinking that, you know, oh, I mean, we talked about this on the show. many times, okay? Think whatever you will about the situation going on in Gaza in Israel right now in the sense of, you know, quote unquote, taking sides or what have you, or lying awake at night thinking about the Palestinians or what have you, you know, and stuff like this. But just from the simple fact of where I'm standing, man, like, dude, it's just not good for our souls, okay? It's not good for our souls that my money is being stolen from me to make bombs that drop on little girls, okay? It's just not good for our soul, okay? And it would be bad if it was

happening in Gaza, it'd be bad if it was happening in some place in Africa, it'd be bad if it was happening in China or something else, okay? It's just not good for our souls, okay? I don't want to be a part of this, okay? That doesn't make me like some brown sympathizer and thinks that all the Palestinians want to, I should ship them all over here and have them become my next door neighbor or something, okay? And then that's when these guys would come bounce right back in and say, oh, well, actually, I'm a super based racist right winger and I want to kill every single brown person on the planet. We should glass Iran into radioactive vapor because

there's brown people over there, right? Oh, but guys, make sure to vote for Vifak Ramoswami. Fuck you, guys. Fuck you. We're so dishonest. It's unbelievable. Couldn't agree more. Exactly. So we actually have pictures of Vifak here. We've got to get into that

discussion here because we must once again, just like how we did that stream, the week after Lindsay Graham died going through his whole record because people need to be reminded of this. Okay. I guess we got to remind people of Vivek Ram Swami's record once again, too. It's like before we even get started here, okay, do we have to once again go back into this guy's record of how his dad never got his American citizenship and his mom was here

on a student visa and then he got, he's an acre baby, his little ankle baby for his parents, okay? And then ran a fake pharmaceutical scam company and defrauded investors of billions of dollars and that's how he got his money. okay like oh great wow the pinnacle of the american dream and american hard work and stick to itiveness okay defrauding investors of a fake pharmaceutical drug and then it has the audacity to come over here while while worshipping is for pagan monkey gods i was saying oh yeah you know working is for the goyam this is the way jews make money yeah yeah yeah unbelievable yeah they

they think lonesome characters they they will tell you that america actual Americans are just stupid for being for valuing honesty and having genuine morality they see a way to undercut us scam us whatever and if Americans go along with it because they're dispositionally honest people that assume that everybody has the same moral code or just idiot suckers i it's it's so i mean i fucking hate these people yeah yeah so horrible But let's listen to Vivek here at America Fest 2025, sponsored by Turning Point Action. Criticizing the woke left. Now let me get to the harder part. There's a different vision of American identity that's emergent in certain corridors of the online right. And it says that

your identity as an American is based on your lineage. That how long you have been in the country, your lineage and your genetics tied to the blood and blood and soil of the country determines how American you are. It is the idea of a heritage American that says the truest form of an American is somebody who is a descendant of the American Revolution period or before. And I will tell you this idea of the heritage American, we ought to have this discussion. It's becoming more popular. I think the idea of a heritage American is about as loony as anything the woke left has actually put up. There is no American who is more American than somebody else.

The American quality, it's not like the left, they believe in this non-binary stuff. There's no non-binary American. It is binary. Either you're an American or you're not. Exactly. Yeah, God, I'll never get tired of the train noise. Never get tired of it.

The natural predator, silent. You'll never know when it strikes. Yes. No, I mean, yeah, this guy's a trans-American, you know, is what this is, okay? I also love here about how, you know, this notion of heritage American that your ancestry and your belonging to a nation is attached to your heritage and to your blood. It's only found on a certain segment of the online right.

You mean literally the way that people have conceptualized themselves as being part of a nation since the fucking time people can write? Are you out of your fucking mind? Oh, it's this small segment of strange fringe radicals that are just on the online stage. We've got to make sure to gate these people out. Of course, nobody in India thinks this way. Nobody in Israel thinks this way, God forbid. Nobody, the only people who are expected to think the way that Vivek is speaking are conveniently all the countries that are majority white and less and less so every single day.

You notice how all the people saying these sorts of things implicitly are the ones that would benefit from such a removal of a distinction. Kevin DeAnne has been talking about this recently in that the motives that are actually at play always serve, you know, the call for this shattering of distinctions of hierarchy, really, of classifications is always a method to subsume that power structure and reformat it to orient them, you know, at a higher position. but I mean it's it's sort of difficult to contain my rage when I hear shit like this because what it is actually saying is I get to have my actual identity and I get to have yours and you don't get any and I just I this is such a a non-starter for me I mean I would almost be to the point where this language itself should be a crime to talk about the American heritage in this way. I mean, it is, because it's a, it is removing, I mean, I am a genuine American and it is removing. It is removing my ability to tether myself again to an identity lens, which is fundamental

to me actually having a fulfilling complete life. It's literally the worst thing. Yeah, it's the worst thing in the world you could do to somebody is take away their home from them, take away their heritage, take away their ancestry, and then have the audacity to say that actually it's for me and not for you. I find it insulting this guy's even in my country and that his wealth hasn't been completely confiscated. I totally, totally agree. Yeah. It's like, it's like Thomas talks about, I mean, this is a guy who does not want you to live historically. Joey brought up Kevin Deanna, and Kevin Deanna did an episode.

he had Tom Woods on. It's a great episode. Everyone should listen to it. It's really, really good. But, you know, he talked about in his opening to that episode, he was talking about Huey Long, and he's like, if you want to know what kind of why, you know, if you look at Huey Long, he was one of the most effective politicians in doing what he's doing. And he said, there's really only one politician right now you can look at, and he's acting

like Huey Long. And that's a mom, Domney, Domey, in New York. and you know he's this is the kind of guy that you know like the the classical liberals you know these these guys who really need to be put up against the wall um they hate him but he's effective why because that's the way politics is done and if like somebody to the right of bernie Sanders suggests you do you know you were to operate that way they're going to just compare you to momdomy because they just want you to lose they just they literally have no problem with mom dam but i don't even know how to pronounce the guy's name mondami taking over because and they can

never complain about it because they don't want anyone rising up to meet him where he's at another politician anyone they don't want any policy any local politician they don't want a president to operate like that and this is the way politics is done. It's because they hate us. They truly do hate us. They really do. It has gotten to the point where if you don't realize

that like every you can only trust the people that like you know. You definitely can't trust people who are paying you. Oh my God. Pete, this is so important for people to just get drilled into their heads. Okay.

They have it completely ass backwards as how to politics works. is that we, the voters, need to be loyal to the politicians. And that is a complete and total inversion of what it actually is. Okay. The politicians are loyal to us. My support for you is contingent on you actually doing something for me. Okay.

It is not honorable to be a slave begging for scraps at the table and just unconditionally giving your support to these people because reasons are what have you. I really need this needs to again be stressed. Okay. The GOP fucking hates you. It hates all of us. They want us gone. They're going to blame all of us for the loss that is coming in these midterms right here.

That doesn't mean that you can't use the GOP to your means. It doesn't mean that people shouldn't be infiltrating their local GOP cabinet positions, their local Senate positions shouldn't be running for office and politics and things like this. But you have to, have to, have to, have to, if you're going to choose that this is going to be, your tactic and how you can help us out. I mean, the people like us on the stream right here, we can't do that. Our profiles are too big. We've said too many naughty words online. We'll never be able to run for an office as such. They'll immediately throw us out of the room immediately. Okay, if you're a guy who's listening to this, who doesn't have a social media profile,

who's a clean cut dude and knows how to hide his power level and wants to go infiltrate, okay, you can do that. But you have to have it as part of your operating system that this is a hostile environment I'm entering into. These people will gladly purge me, completely ruin my life without a second's notice, okay, if they sense that you are there to destroy what it is that they have built, okay? There is no politician in this government that you can trust that has your best interest at heart. And if you're getting paid to promote this administration,

you're getting paid by somebody who hates you. Because they're 100% on the side of the administration. You may feel special because they make you feel special. Oh my goodness, you're a good writer. You're so good at talking on the internet. Here, here's some money. They're fucking using you, you scumbag. Exactly.

Get a fucking job at McDonald's if you want fucking money. If you need money that bad. Don't get fucking used by people that hate you. You fucking morons. And what's also ridiculous about it is the, this probably varies, but for many of these guys, the amount of money there is like basically nothing. They're selling their school for like nothing. You could go on fucking welfare like Brad and you would make more.

Literally. I mean, the, the, just the, the. the underlying moral framework that so many of these people have, you know, I was thinking about this because if you recall probably 2015 up through, I mean, current day, but the claim that MAGA was a cult really bounced off of so many of the most interesting right-wing voices because those people really understood the dynamic you were referencing, which is that so long as Trump proceeds with the plan that we all believe in and we all expect, our loyalty falls with him. But as that separates, we divorce ourselves.

And that divorce happened. And those people that were once, really the premier layer of MAGA, all jumped ship. And so those stewards really were not in a cult. but anybody left if they're not just, you know, working for other means. It's, it is entirely a cultish devotion. And there's no debate to that now. Yeah, it really is crazy. The kinds of water that people are carrying for the regime.

I mean, we were talking about the Iran War. That's just the biggest example because all of these usual suspects were up in arms during Operation Midnight Hammer saying, oh, you guys are just panicans, you guys are truning out, you guys are ridiculous, this isn't going to launch into a full-blown war. Everybody who's been around for five minutes

actually understood what was going on and knew what was coming and knew what was coming down the road and we're trying our absolute best to prevent the train wreck that we know is coming in the next month here. All of us were completely ignored. We were all tossed aside

when we were all right. And the worst part about this too is that we are going to, to be used as the scapegoats to purge out of the system when this inevitably falls. It was you guys with your blue Yeti microphones that have more power than the present of the United fucking states. But the judges, the judges won't let him do anything. Yeah.

Yep. Go talk to Buckele, man. Like, fuck it seriously, dude. Like seriously. Both Joey and I have been to El Salvador. It's wonderful. It's incredible. It's like, I'm just so tired.

Yeah, I'm so tired of people pissing on me and calling it rain. Okay. This is just ridiculous, man. Have some fucking self-respect for yourself. It is. What you notice, I think, is that that sort of calculation of basically optimize the situation, no matter what costs, you know, you have to pay with regard to your self-respect or your dignity. It's essentially materialism extrapolated to the political realm in the sense that these people have no line because their entire understanding is relative to their material circumstance.

So they are happy to flip flop and attach themselves to whoever because so long as they can keep moving forward in some regard, you know, it's like line go up applied to politics. And they look at us like fucking aliens when we say, no, I actually have a, I have a principled line here that I won't cross. And if that comes at some material expense to me, so be it. I mean, they can't even comprehend. How could you possibly, you know, forfeit something like that on principle. Are you crazy? It's just wild to see how like bankrupt they are in so many different regards. I mean, like, if I was some of these characters who were saying that there's absolutely no way we're going to go to war with Iran or this is going to be over in a month or it's like I wouldn't even be able to show my face, dude.

I know. I would like, you know, or like people who are like making public bets on like which way the, um, uh, the midterms are going to go or something like this and when they're going to be proven wrong. I'm like, dude, like, have you no shame? Seriously. Well, somebody like Will Chamberlain doesn't have any shame. And, you know, he's out there saying, oh, it'll be their regime will fall in a month. And then, you know, it's 10 months later and someone calls him out for it. And he doesn't care.

That's the way these guys are. These guys who were taking the money. And you're just Jews. You're just acting like Jews. What the fuck, man? That's the most insidious part. We've talked about it on the show many, many times. That's literally how they get you.

They get you to become them. That's how they do it, man. It's crazy. Man, this is a good show tonight. We're doing good job. Well, speaking of the midterms, okay, why don't we listen to, you know, we were talking about this,

how we're going to be blamed for all of this stuff. We've been predicting this for over a year. Our good friend Jay Burton and Stormy, we were talking about the GOP Samson option, probably like 10 or 11 months ago now, and boy, oh boy, that take is aging like fine wine. But why don't we listen to two of our favorite individuals from conservative ink telling us about,

Oh, oh, man, the great big problems of the wolf brain. God, look up. You know what? It's fucking insulting that fucking pin that Mark Levin has got on his fucking jacket right there, that giant American flag. Fuck you. Fuck you. Oh, my God.

Anyway, let's listen to these two fucking losers. When we look at the Fox survey, Iran is a 4% issue with the American people. So whatever happens in the midterms, it doesn't appear that Iran's going to drive. anything one way or another. What's your take on this? I think that's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, it's not going to drive anything one way or another. Lull! It's totally irrelevant. What are these freaks talking about? Totally irrelevant. Yeah, of course, you know, the United States siphoning off money to give back to our homeland, to our people, you know, of course that has nothing to do with the midterms coming up. It's not the number one issue that people are talking about

when you go out in the street and taco amongst normies, about the surging gas prices and the cost of living and groceries are expensive, and people can't really find jobs or anything like this. You know, oh, no, it has no effect on us whatsoever. Not at all. Not all the lost political capital that we squandered on a war for Israel. No, no, has no effect whatsoever. You're ridiculous.

You're ridiculous, Goyem. You should definitely support our war. By the way, I found out where a lot of that boomer money went. I think a lot of it went to Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro. Go on YouTube and look up a Ben Shapiro video where he talks about if you want to get into watches, he talks about some of the watches he's owned. He's talking about watches. Some of the watches he says he's owned cost $50,000 and $60,000.

That's where the money's gone. I mean, come on. I don't really mean this flippantly or derogatorily necessarily, but I genuinely don't know who the remaining audiences of these people are. Like, that's a curiosity that I cannot, like, well, who are the, yeah, I can answer this for you by quoting a one George Costanza. Of course, they'll watch it. It's on. Oh, right. But those are the characters.

I would imagine that if you're going to tune, into Shapiro on YouTube and or wherever he is like you have to at least be politically engaged enough to be seeking out pundits rather than if you just sit on the couch and flip on TV and so it's so bizarre to unless you're Jewish I guess it's so bizarre to me that there are people at this point with everything that's happened and obviously I understand the reality of the masses but I would think that if you were in that category you would at least partially have distinguished yourself from the regular MPCs. I mean, is there a single soul that tunes into Shapiro and hears his squeal through their

headphones and goes, that's right. Yep, that's exactly right. And isn't also wearing a yarmica? Is there one person like that? There's certainly a lot of people who agree with him on basically everything as it relates to who they should be voting for and everything like this. All right. All right, guys.

This talk is very third world. This is in Brown. We need to stop. just just go vote for Vivek that's that's not third world this they're brown coded yeah i mean if if there is any way that we could describe what the modern day left is in the united states okay it is just if we could point it down to one thing okay what's the thing that they will hold on to to their dying days okay they will drop the trans stuff when it's not important to them they will drop all the environmental shit they'll go right for you know drill baby drill because we got

to increase money to the donor class for data centers and everything like this. We'll we'll drop all the climate change bullshit. We'll drop all the gay stuff. We'll drop all the trunes. The one thing that they will not drop is the anti-white stuff. That is and therefore the left is anti-white. Okay.

That is what they are. Okay. The advancement of foreigners at the expense of white people in the United States. Okay. And guess what these fucking guys are doing right here. They're doing the exact same thing. They're supporting foreigners to, to replace us in our own land, to extract our money and bring it over to their own little ethnic

blood feuds half a world away. Totally. Just be, it's just so obvious for people who constantly are screaming about and trying to out edge somebody else to try to discredit people like us, well, who actually have principles on these things, who actually aren't going to be, you know, people who are just on our knees, with two hands sucking off Vivek at the voting booth. Okay? Just my God, trying to say like, oh, I want to kill all brown people in the entire world

and then go vote for Vivek is fucking insane, dude. Unbelievable. Completely ridiculous. Well, you know what? I think, again, like the most bothersome element of all this is the, white people just don't have this degree of blatant, shame. or if they do, it's a learned behavior. It's not inherent to them.

But you have this hamster on your show and you say that the Iran war is basically irrelevant. I mean, that is the inversion of the truth. It's not an honest premise with a dishonest conclusion. It is so in your face that I almost feel like people, to a degree, see that degree of dishonesty and assume that there's no way somebody could be so brazen, therefore there must be truth to it. Yeah. The chutzpah, some might say. Yeah. Yeah. Pete, you got anything on that? I'm just, I, Pete's going to explode unless we get people off the screen. Yeah, I mean, whenever I see these people on the screen, I'm sure my face looks just like garbles when he's told the background that the photographer is like in a picture of him.

All right. Let's get on to our final topic here of the evening. We've bounced around this a few times tonight because some of our discussions have, they're very intertwined tonight. Sometimes we have stories that just perfectly wrapped up. up in a nice bow and this is one of those weeks um let's talk about bow french okay so this has definitely been popping off over the last couple of weeks we definitely haven't had shows recently because a bunch of us were traveling or celebrating the destruction of halo studios which um you know of course is worth it but you know so both french definitely made a stink no pun intended here um you know with this tweet here saying i heard u t graduation this year looked like this i didn't believe it the problem is now obviously far worse than anyone imagined. Okay.

Now, Bo French, he's running for railroad commission in Texas, okay? A state where the demographic reports going around now is that the state is now 40% white. You know, fucking Texas, man. No, like crazy. Okay, the amount of demographic replacement that has been going on in Texas. And not just from illegals jumping over the southern border, but it actually is legal immigration in places like Dallas that literally look like Mumbai, you know, as evidenced right here in this picture.

Okay. And one of the things I really want to inject in this conversation is that, you know, I definitely understand people's position of, oh, I want to burn it all down with the GOP. They are completely undeserving of my vote in this election cycle. They've done everything they can to not fix the cost of living. They make fun of me at every turn. They advance the interests of all these other special interests in foreign groups. They mock me when I want a good paying job. They mock me when I think that we probably shouldn't have women in the workforce. be advancing them in positions in the workforce above myself and things like this. I understand people's rage and whatnot. But I would caution people that there actually are genuine people who are sympathetic to our cause and to our positions who are trying to fight the good fight. And they definitely should get our support. So if you are in Texas, I mean, again, we don't make endorsements on the show for obvious reasons.

We don't tell people to vote. But vote French needs support. of all the races, him and Ken Paxson are probably the most interesting ones to watch here. And hopefully, at least from where I'm standing, are absolutely the ones that I hope Republicans win in this election cycle. Because if these two guys lose, the GOP establishment will have all the ammunition it needs to go back to neoconism 2.0, basically. Purge all these infiltrators throughout the Trump administration or the Trump era rather of the last 10 years and go right back to business as usual. Okay, big business, selling out American jobs, replacing people at home, launching more Forever Wars.

You know, they would love nothing more than to just go right back to that. So that's what I wanted to inject into this discussion. Can I just mention that Beau French is running for railroad commissioner? That was actually the position Huey Long had before he became governor. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And also, Bo French is running for railroad. Commissioner. Do you know what the name of his opponent is?

Some lefty character who was like a homo activist or something like that. John Rosenthal. Every single time. Many such cases. Well, I live in Austin actually and

I can tell you. I can tell that I think that 40% number might even be high. But without indicting the normies necessarily, for those who act as if these sorts of stances and these flavors of politics that we express are just inapplicable, they need to understand that the idea of moderate is entirely relative on the context of your reality.

And the current liberal paradigm positions, you know, leftism being the complete, I mean, it's obviously anti-white, but it's cloaked in this eradication of distinctions, you know, literally open borders. But their perception of what the right is is just classical liberalism. So a moderate through that, like those boundaries, okay, sure, pick your average liberal. But what I think a lot of us have concluded is that we know where this goes under the current liberal framework. It goes to South Africa. It goes to Brazil. It's not sustainable. So to think that we can just temper it, and color in the lines to try and make a little bit of progress,

it's inconsequential if you know that at the end of the day, this leads to death, destruction, devastation, and really eradication. I just have no sympathy for that angle anymore that we just need to temper it down. The problem is that we have a different foundation that is incompatible with this liberal worldview. But I mean, I'm not okay with just tucking my tail and letting things progress as they are.

I mean, I used to work at Tesla at the Gigafactory in Austin. It's overrun. I mean, it's absolutely overrun. And that's been expanded into the neighborhoods. and like what's going to happen when Texas is 20% white? Do you think they're going to listen to us then? I mean, we are converging against the diminishment of our ability to even have a voice. And if we keep letting this go on, we've sealed our fate.

And if you think whites are just going to be a hated majority, wait till they become a minority. I mean, obviously there already are, but I mean, an exaggerated minority. I mean, people don't understand where this goes. Yeah. No, I mean, the situation is bleak, especially if you are to look at an electoral map. I mean, if Texas goes, I mean, that's literally Gigi, literally. And it's really not looking good in this, you know, Senate race is coming up right here. I know the polls are pretty much neck and neck.

but I don't know. I mean, I've heard from people down in Texas that are saying like, you know, voters might not be enthused, but they're reluctantly going to vote for Paxton just because Tala Rico is just so fucking terrible. We'll see if that's the case.

But this is definitely the, these two races right here are definitely the ones that I am most interested in, you know, coming up on, you know, one month down to the wire here. And remember that, you know,

the people telling you to vote for Vivek, they would pretty much vote for anyone in this picture. Totally. Napoli. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, one of the other things I wanted to mention with the Vivek thing that it just came back to me now, which is also so insane about this, is like, if you're trying to tell me that, you know, like, oh, we really have to vote for the right to, you know, save Trump and save the Trump administration because we're really loyal to Trump. How does voting for Vivek exactly square with that circle when he's running for governor of us? state. Now, it's like that. And why is he running for governor? Why is he running for governor? Because he wants to be president. Yeah, that too.

And what happens? And he, he gets, he runs for president and somehow he gets the nomination. And then these same people are like, well, you know, you have to vote for the Indian to be president. Sure, he might bring in a billion fucking Indians. But I mean, it's better than, it's better than the other. What would happen if you brought? right in the other guy, you know?

I mean, Jesus. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's like, hey, did you know if we, if we just surrender to the enemy that they'll put us under the guillotine instead of maybe getting shot in a last stand and bleeding out over the course of an hour? Isn't that so much better? It seems like a tri-comperson, but it's genuinely how their worldview perceives a dilemma like this.

And it's as if we're speaking a different language, at least that's how I feel, given the the disparity in the in the principles and disposition think about what we're saying here the problem nobody ever wants to talk about the big picture because probably maybe most people aren't even smart enough to talk about the big picture but the big picture here is the problem is voting yeah yeah we vote every two years we vote every you know and then you have the big one every four years the problem is voting if people people people are are not as ideological as you out there who think you're the, you know, these really smart people.

I'm a principled right winger. Go vote for Vivek. It's voting. It's, look, Donald Trump had one mission after Charlie Kirk got shot. Make it illegal to be leftist, be a leftist in this country. Yes. That's it.

And it failed. And you know how you failed? Yeah. You know how you know it failed? And you know how you know he's not at war. And oh, you just have to be loyal. You can disagree with him on everything. You just have to remain loyal.

Oh, you know, the guy who said that, really, really Canadian health care. Seek it. Fucking do it. You know how you know he didn't do it? Because everyone's scared. Oh, you got to vote from a vague of the left. Is this going to be? Oh, I thought he destroyed the left.

Yeah. I thought they were on their last legs. I thought they were done, you know, we're about to have the thousand year American Empire, you know, the last forever here. I mean, it's just, no, we constantly talk about this on this show, right?

Is that the issues that we are facing, you know, as a people, as a nation, they are beyond the realms of being fixed in one election cycle. Yeah. They are probably even beyond the realms of being

fixed. The way the system is currently constructed as it is. This is one of these things that we're constantly talking about with conservatives here and why we get so upset with them is that all of their positions, all of their views are entirely manufactured by their enemies who hate them. And we have to fight in this tight little, neat little box in this regime, in this system that was built to prevent positions that we hold from ever gaining any serious. power period.

The bureaucracy exists to make it illegal for right-wing positions to win out. The system is literally constructed to prevent us from getting what we want. So this idea of, oh, we're just going to fight for votes from various squabbling inter-ethnic groups for forever, basically. And that's eventually how we're going to get what we want. It's like, what are you living on Mars? Seriously. And I understand why a lot of people don't want to confront that reality because it is an extremely harsh reality and it leads to some very, very dark places, historically speaking, in most cases.

Hopefully we can avoid those. We try our absolute best with the things that we do here to make sure that that position never comes about. But this idea of something like the Constitution, for example, okay, this is always something that the boomers are always hung up on. It's like, oh, we got to protect the Constitution or what have you. It's like, oh, you mean that document that has been changed five major times since the founding of the country, most of which actually done by various presidents in their own lifetimes? Okay. It's like, what is so annoying about this supposed devotion to principles is it's transparently fraudulent?

They only apply it when it's. serves their greater religion of liberalism as, you know, a concept. You saw this same type of faux display of virtue and principle when Joel Webbin did his recent episode in which he said, given the incentives of democracy, given universal suffrage, mass democracy, you seed a practically insurmountable advantage to the left. you refuse to promise handouts and buy votes. And he framed that as being socialism. Obviously, it's not like the Marxian dictatorship of the proletariat.

He meant it as in these are, this is the current dynamic and we have to play if we actually want to win. And you saw these same fucking cucks come out on X and go, America will never be socialist. We destroy communism here. socialists as we were born. Absolutely. And then you see Trump talk about $5,000 checks and they clap like seals. Or you see Vance talk about $9,000 to single mothers per year and they clap like seals. It is so baseless and just devoid of any substance. And yet as soon as there's some sort of dilemma in which the real right can capitalize on a, you know, gap in the current structure of the political dynamic.

They run to cover the left's fucking ass, just like that fat, dipshit Eric Erickson when he comes out and he goes, oh, racism has no place in America or whatever the fuck he said. And then you see the true intention all along when he, grovels over the fact that he got to go on ABC, a show that he's been watching since he was a kid, because that's their entire dynamic. They're talentless people who want legitimacy through the current existing institutions.

They're not conservative by any means, whatever that itself even means. And at the end of the day, they will do everything they can to stop us. because like you said, it is functionally illegal to be genuinely right wing. And we know this because these beliefs are the inherent reflex of people. This is how everybody has naturally felt and governed themselves up until post-World War II. The term, and I'm sure you all know this, the term ethno-nationalist didn't even, even begin to circulate until the 1980s because it was redundant. It's literally how societies work.

It's literally what a country was. Every country was at the nationalist. They have to put as big of a rampart against these ideas because once you get a slight taste of them, you revert back to your basically genetic coding. This is how people are supposed to orient themselves. And I said, I got the honor, by the way, Pete, you know this, of Rod Dreher calling my book, or at least implying that it was the mind comp of my generation. I saw that. Yeah.

And I'm so proud of you. And he basically said, you know, that we were the radicals. But again, I guess he didn't really read the book because at the end of the book, what I said was, we will be framed as the radicals. But in actuality, this liberal hologram is more of a radical political project than probably anything that humans have ever performed. 100%. We are simply grounding ourselves back in the foundations that connect humans to humanity. It is them.

Even those that claim to be the big tough guy conservatives that stand up to racism. It is them who are the radicals, not us. They have to have this entire social engineering regime that costs trillions upon trillions of dollars at the point of a gun, at forced integration, all of the schooling, all of the media companies, all of your major professional sports, all of your universities, all of your jobs, the HR regime, the foreign wars we get brought into, all of this, all of this, just to fight basic human nature. Yes, exactly.

And they can't even tell you why racism is bad, by the way, through a non-Christian lens. Like, it makes no sense. They don't even know. Yeah, it's. Kai Makata in the comments here makes a good point. Reissue the book and put that quote on the cover, the mind com for the Zumer generation, Roger. Yeah, we might have to, actually.

hilarious. I have a hard-backed version. Amazing. Well, anyway. So, okay, well, we do have one brief audio clip here, Bo French doubling down his positions. He's not going anywhere. So based for him, why don't we listen to that really quick? And then we can get out of here. I believe that we should be prioritizing Americans, not foreigners. And so the problem as I see is that there are, and I think a lot of people would agree with this, that too many of our institutions are prioritizing people who are not. All cruises fire at wind. Burn the mongrel hides. I like that he uses the term foreigners instead of trying to say legal.

That's so good. That's a rhetorical trick we've been talking on this show for a long time. It's like that's just what you have to say, man, because everybody knows when an American is. Everybody knows deep down. just say foreigner. If you seed ground when you're talking about immigrants or immigration, they can immediately go and say,

well, actually legal versus legal. It's like, no, fuck you. You're a foreigner. Get out of here. Fuck you. I don't care. Well, all right.

Let's get through these super chats and then we'll call on night. It's a good episode tonight, fellas. Covered a lot of ground. Well done. From the top, as ever, our faithful super chatter, Solid Snake, 1964, who has once again snuck behind enemy lines.

beneath his cardboard box to be the first super chatter as he is every week he says evening gents i was lost with no pony express i was going stir crazy without my weekly slop jk i hope you guys had a good and productive trip yes yes it was a good time we had a fun time uh going to our various conferences and our various events uh meeting up with fellow friends and you too should be meeting up with fellow friends in your local area join the real american um yes and you are a real american sir time for 10 bucks says hail victory hail victory indeed sir um our good friend thomas wayne riley the american southwest uh for 10 bucks says i am brad spark this movie nice i don't watch tv but i know what commercials look like these days because of cfb uh this um this is the one time

they don't use the modern commercial actor they don't want to win yeah absolutely acceptable targets we talk about it for a long time uh ski bum 220 for 20 bucks he says uh is the forest passage by yunger uh still good advice in our time specifically his discussion about um anirac um the an arc the anarch yeah yeah i think um i think it's definitely applicable to the situation we're going through there you go if you have an endorsement from pete that's an endorsement from all of us um manny you'd sushi for two bucks he says they cry out in pain as they redeem you sir i think he deserves the train uh for that yeah we'll give you the train still my favorite it's always my favorite it's so good i'm still i still want to get together and raise money so that we can build super um you know the the the fast trains the um like the bullet trains called those the bullet trains in india i think it'd

it'll be a great it'll help it'll be a population control mass extinction event yeah exactly but isn't it kind of hilarious that beau french is running for railroad commission you know what a delicious yeah oh it's beautiful amazing uh rocks with vox for 20 bucks says we need more trains especially in tex Yes, we do. Don Browning, the only woman who listens to this show. Thank you very much, Mrs. Browning. She sends us 20 Australian bucks, and as ever, she sends us a super sticker like every week,

and this time is a cyberpunk hippopotamus, ready to take us out. So thank you, this is Browning. We appreciate it. Mountain State Farm for 10 bucks says, Iran has nothing to do with the economy, stupid. Lamau. Yeah.

just crazy absolute chutzpah I mean we've talked about this before on the show many times but that definitely is one of the white pills going for us right now for sure is that the days of Israel as it relates to the American public are going down by the freaking day man and not soon enough they've just dug themselves a hole they will not be able to get out of

air make discourse for 10 bucks says always remember a nation's power is not measured in culture, wealth, or history as measured by how many immigrants per square meter can fit inside it. God, man, oh man. Unbelievable. You can, I bet you could go out onto the street in like a college town or something. And I just spent a bunch of days in Savannah where SCAD is there, Savannah College of Art and design. So you can imagine just how shit lived that

friggin' town is. And I bet you could say that and you could get people to agree with it. Yeah, I'll certainly. Unironically. Yeah, it's like, yeah. I think we do forget just how I mean, at least in

my demographic, just how lefty some people really are. And a good deal of them too. I mean, it's just absurd. Especially, I don't not to get off on it, but like the, the reaction to this Cornell 7 thing. I mean, it re, it has the same flavor of the George Floyd B.L.M. posts. Yeah, it really, it really is crazy. Just, yeah, and I really do feel for, you guys. I mean, I'm a couple of years older than you, Joey. But, yeah, it's like, I really do feel

bad for you zoomer guys. There's a right to the, to the, um, feminism question because it's like, you guys weren't even born yet. You just never had a chance. It gets worse. This was announced as we were as we started. Do you know who Hockel appointed as prosecutor for this? Oh, was it Latitia James? Yeah.

No way. Oh, my Lord. Dude, they're going to, they're going to charge them on. I mean, it's a civil case at the moment. They reopened it, though, right? Wow. That's where of all the good men gone? I feel for those guys, man.

I mean, it really is like, listen, you know, we talk about this many, many times that the number one issue that we are facing is definitely the demographics issue. But a very, very hard number two on that list is the feminism problem. Absolutely. So, like, man, oh man, that, that, it's rough. Everybody go read my buddy Ryan Stone, go pick up his books, you know, on this topic. Anyway, rocks with Vox for $10. Says, con-ink podcasters are cheap whores. Yes, yes indeed they are.

Facts. You know? The other thing, too, is just that it really just is so amazing, you know, when you're around the scene for a long enough time, just how many people will just take the money, man? And it's such a minuscule amount, too. It's just crazy. It's not even 30 shekels.

No, it really is. It isn't too. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing, man. But people really just want their egos inflated so much. And, you know, again, this is another red pill maximum, a red pill truth. You know, I mean, I really do thank finding the atmosphere like every day. I really do, you know, because there's so many good mental models in there for people.

And, you know, just killing your ego is just so unbelievably important, especially if you were going to try and make a living in this scene, man, it will just completely rip you apart and make you do the stupidest and most disheartedly. honest and dishonorable shit imaginable just kill your ego and in addition to this you know aside from you pete because you put on like amazing content every single day um there's absolutely no way that i would ever do this as a full-time job ever like there's never going to be a time where you know i'm not also working like a real time job there's just no way it'll literally just drive you insane no have to keep yourself around it have to um all righty and take breaks which i will be taking

next month or so. So you guys will all be missing me. I mean, this is literally like one of the only times I talk about like current events. I mean, we're mostly just talking about history on the show. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. Mountain State Farm for 10 bucks. Boomers. Boomers love Mark Levine. I know a boomer who listens to Mark Levine religiously every morning. It's disgusting. The psychosis over the boomers will be studied for decades. Yeah, I mean, it's very true, man. It's literally just he's got the prime time spot on Fox News. I know so many people who were religious Tucker Carlson supporters and watchers. And the second that he got fired from Fox News, they just completely threw him out the window, didn't follow him

to his network and got completely plugged him with Mark Levin, because he took his prime time slot. And that's just how it goes, man. It's evil, but it works. You know, you really do have to give it to our enemies, you know, in that regard. Um, X runner, 50. for five bucks says boomers grew up huffing leaded gas fumes eating lead paint chips and toys made of lead oh no no um many you'd sushi again for 10 bucks uh your your universe has no meaning to them they will not try to understand they will be tired they will be cold they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door jean rispiel the camp of the saints yes indeed well one one thing that people every day. Yeah, one thing that

most people that haven't read that book, the guy who says that is actually in favor of the invasion. And we need to understand that, like there are people that understand what is happening. I mean, obviously, it goes without saying, with regard to Jews, but there's other people that know what is happening

and they egg it on and they are glad to see it, even if it comes with their own expense. I mean, Kevin to Anna talking about how really spite being one of the most powerful political forces is true. It's very true indeed. Absolutely. Well, the one good thing about the guy who said that he did meet his end shortly after that. Infernal mournance for two bucks.

Polls are to shape public perception, not reflect it. True. I mean, definitely quite a few of them are. That's for damn sure. I mean, the one thing that I will just like throw in people's faces is the absolute worst thing for people to be using is the fucking poly markets and betting markets, you know, as an indication for, you know, political outcomes. Like, dude. I mean, come on. I mean, come on.

And yeah, look who runs them to. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like, you know, you guys are, you do bros are constantly complaining about the influence that sports betting has had on all of your sports and what it has done to. it. You don't think they're doing that with politics, too. Get out of here, man. Totally. And politics is even more corrupt than sports.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, X runner again for two bucks. The GOP is conformist. Conformity is very feminine. That's very true as well. Very true. There's, I mean, we didn't really talk about this, but the response that Sarah Huckabee had to that ad, she doubled

down afterwards saying, ah, it appears that some people are very upset with my ad. Next thing they'll be telling me is that Brat should have been eating cookies instead of Cheetos. Go work. It's like, bitch, like, watch how you're talking to me. I really, really hope these people get what they deserve in the end. I really do.

Yeah, absolutely. It's like, you know, sometimes you just, where's the Sean Connery clip, you know? Oh, yeah. Man, oh, man. You know, just the audacity woman. Kidding me? Um, you know, just entirely artificially propped up in your position because your dad shills for Israel to such a degree that you are allowed to be involved in politics. You've never worked a day in your life, never worked a real job.

And you're a woman in a man's field. Also, so derogatory to people who could literally snap you in half with their bare hands. It's just a complete inversion of how the world was run up until the last like 100 years. crazy. Yeah. But it's progress. Yeah, true. Volp his persona for five bucks.

I'm braiding, Brad isn't working, ma'am. What do we do now, double down? Yeah. And then finally we got Mr. Paul W. Hall who sends us 10 bucks and a salute. Thank you, sir. You are a real American. Real Americans.

All righty. Excellent. Okay. Well, that's the last of the superchats. Well done, fellas. This is a fun show. Pete, where can people find more of your stuff? Pete and the show just dropped episode number 22 of my series with Mr. George Bagby on the road to America's Civil War. So we talked about the compromise of 1850 and Chauncey Calhoun, my favorite, maybe my favorite political thinker.

I think he's the greatest American political thinker ever. It's certainly up there for sure. Yeah, I'm excited about these. So check it out. Okay, cool. Mr. Oliver, thank you for coming on the show. Your links are in the description, including the link to your book, which I myself have a copy of, and everybody as well should get a copy.

But where can people find more of your stuff? My YouTube channel, the Right Wing Coalition, is where I put most of my stuff out. I occasionally write an article for American Renaissance and for Arctose Journal. You follow me on Twitter at the right wing coalition as well. And yeah, if you want to get the mind conf of Gen Z, American History Z, Gen Z's journey to the far right. You can get on Amazon, Arctose, my publisher's website, or I think Barnes & Noble as well. All right. Excellent.

For myself, check me out on Sunday with, Mr. Charlene and Mr. D where we are doing our movie streams because we can watch copyrighted products on Twitter and they don't give a shit at all. So if you want us to just join us talking about some old classics,

definitely go over there. And then also next week, next Wednesday, I will be making appearance on Drive Time Movie Night with Capitalis Mel and Michael Paul. I have no idea what we're watching. But it's just the way the show goes. So come by.

The second half of Federer on roof that Thomas didn't yeah yeah yeah God he was really upset about that when I was I was talking to recently he was so funny he's like I don't know what they were trying to do with that man you know but it was great um all right um and then uh yes so uh everybody um subscribe to the o gc sub stack watch chapter house on mondays or no chapter house on wednesday's american spirits is on mondays um and then pony express here on thursdays everyone go to the old glory club.com to join your local OGC chapter, and we will see you guys soon.