The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Ivan Ilyin's 'On Resistance to Evil by Force' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Pt. 29

Episode Date: August 29, 2026

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If not, here's a show. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of On Resistance to Evil by Force by Ivan Eileen. Dr. Johnson, I gave you the... the week off. How are you doing? Well, thank you, sir. I'm going through in my head. I'm going through in my head the books that I'm working on.

I think it's fine. Peter the Great, China, something that just came up. I wrote so much on the Iranian situation that there's definitely a book there. And then there's my revision of the Nicholas's second stuff you know I know there's more

I just can't think of it off top my head because I'm my brain is this is what I do all day long you imagine but you know what this is what I love to do and I'm getting so much support from your listeners and my friends and everybody

it's people are thirsting for knowledge for real knowledge about this stuff and we're just going to continue to increase insignificance as time goes on. Awesome, awesome. I just want to put a message out there personally that apparently two weeks ago, Spotify stopped uploading my videos to Spotify, and I'm dealing with them right now, trying to get them to update the RSS feed and yada yada.

so no, I have not stopped uploading stuff to Spotify. Spotify is fucking with me. So that's why if you listen on Spotify, you're not going to get it. And stop listening on Spotify. They're worse at stealing data than Facebook is. They report everything back to the U.S. government, to the global American empire. They're a terrible fucking company. Apple is 10 times better and that's not saying much.

That's right. If you're on an iPhone, get pocketcasts or something like that. And if you're on an Android, get a podcast addict. Stop messing with Spotify. Don't give them your money. They hate you. Yeah, they sure do. I didn't even know you were uploading there in the first place.

But it is substantial. It is large. It is well known. Now they give you a reason. No, but they say that they, what I'm assuming is, they said that they need a human to go over my content. And what I'm assuming is, is that AI flag something, their AI flags something. Oh, oh, something else happened. I used to have, I used to notice some rats, harm, they never came close to the house.

That suddenly disappeared. just the other day in my garage I saw a six foot snake skin I'd never seen one before it was hanging off the thing and there's only really two the racers around here

and there's one other they're harmless you know I'd rather not deal with them but they're harmless snakes I had the feeling I know what happened to the rodents I have a sensation I have just speculation.

That's what's going on. We used to get field mice in the house. We have a six-foot rat snake that goes from the field next door to under the house. And every once in a while I see him and I just tell him, hey, you know, can you, you know, just, I'll leave you alone. Just keep taking care of the mice. He was hanging out by my car the other day. He was just like, he was staring up into the engine of my car. I'm like, is there a leak or something?

Is this a mechanic snake? Or what the hell's going on here? Well, you know, I've mentioned the sociology of the cats in their hierarchy here. Now, my scully, who is a dilute tortoise shell, beautiful animal, very athletic, like a cheetah. She's in the basement, and she's the one who brings in the mice and puts it down. And whoever's the closest cat gets it. Now, Stanley has tried very hard to teach them. Here's what you do.

You break the neck. That's it. These aren't toys. They're not toys. You think the kittens listen? No, they want to play with it. They want to whack it around. They want to throw it in the air.

You know, and Charred apart. Leave it on your bed. Leave half of it on your bed. You know. Yeah. Well, that came very close to that, in fact.

The guts hanging out. You know, they are not, you know, And Stanley, how they ever they communicate, these aren't toys. I've watched him show in front of all the cats how to kill them. Stanley is a master mouser. And, you know, the kittens now, they don't need to eat them, so they just want to play and whack them around it. It can be funny.

They tend to lose the mice once in a while. It gets away. How with seven cats to get away, but that shows you their competence. But I think Stanley's just finished trying to get him to do anything. But Scully, however, is Stanley student and really took to it. And they're earning their keep. I'm very happy about that. Oh, by the way, I mentioned that about Spotify,

and I immediately get a text from my buddy Andy Edwards. There's a couple great books out, Pro Bar and King of Dogs, by the way. He's talked about King of Dogs on my show before. and I have to have months to talk about Crowbar, but he just told me, yeah, now Spotify's updating again. They have my most recent episodes just in like since we started this, like in the last six minutes. Oh, wow.

Oh, they're updating, they updated the software. Yeah, well, no, they let it, they allowed my podcast, my episodes to upload again. So, yeah. Yeah, hopefully they think we're just eccentric Russia specialists, you know, or at least I am, and they don't have to worry about it, you know. Yeah. All we do is talk about, all we do is talk about history here.

That's right. All right. Let's pick up where we left off last time. Okay. This is a rather long chapter, so we're going to, might be here for a couple more episodes. Yeah. Thus, every external crime is like a test or a touchstone for all who perceive it.

By its very execution, a test of spiritual maturity of those present, their devotion to goodness, their strength in goodness, the sensitivity of their conscience, their love for their neighbor, their ability to tolerate and condone the triumph of evil. Anyone witnessing a crime experiences a certain temptation and seduction, for in every crime evil provokes all those around it, compelling them to speak out and reveal themselves, to take a decisive stand against evil or in favor of evil. It is impossible to evade this test for anyone who evades and turns away, thereby speaks out in favor of evil. It is precisely this acuteness of the problem that gives every crime a tragic character,

not only for the villain, but for all who perceive it. This is another one of those very powerful paragraphs in a book loaded with powerful paragraph. Every act of evil that we all see that we have anything to do with, you know, that we perceive in our town or whatever it is, it seems like victory for the enemy. It seems like a victory for demonic forces. But in fact, it's a defeat. Because assuming the society is even vaguely healthy, it forces us to confront it. It forces us to look inside.

It forces us to elite the best of us anyway, to take stock of ourselves and to do battle against it. In fact, every victory is really a defeat for a healthy society because the more evil that you perceive, the more that the good arms themselves, so to speak, metaphorically speaking. Unhealthy societies, of course, it's like a body that doesn't have any white cells. There's nothing to fight the infection,

nothing to fight the invasion, and it dies. Demons love this spiritual age that they're trying to create. And as we said before, we're living in an age where people are really, they know that something's wrong, as Edmund Burke said in the 18th century. They know that something's badly wrong, but putting their finger on precisely what it is is often beyond them. And that's what we're here for. And that's why our books sell well.

That's why we get a lot of people listening to this, especially mainstream people. it's the you know I'm almost tired of it it's the same it's almost like a shuffle you know I say something it's rejected and then a month later

I hear it you know being promoted in the mainstream the most recent one is I know it's off the subject but the most recent one is how the US hides its casualties I've been talking about that for a decade and finally

the US just did it was so blatant and stupid about it that now even mainstream sources are right it's a way for like the new yorker in the atlantic get to trump but it's become mainstream even mainstream white ringers what right wingers either listen to us or know someone who listens to us uh and people like us and they talk about this so once once we do all the legwork they then talk about it later as if they have discovered it um i don't know is that a form of flattery or or i'm i'm i'm i'm I'll take it as a form of flattering. Yeah, I think it is.

I think you might be nice. There's a lot of people who aren't going to give you any credit for, and, you know, it's, do you care, yeah, it comes down to you, do you care about credit or do you care about,

you know, seeing the, seeing the kind of change you want in society that you want and the message, you know, messages going out further. So, I don't know. Yeah.

It's a continued, it's a refurb. that we are doing the right thing and that we're influential, even though they don't want to admit it. Moving on. The overwhelming majority of people approach a crime in a state of inner unpreparedness. Their own personal internal struggle with evil is unfinished and is unfinished. Oh boy.

Yeah. Sorry about that. And from this precarious equilibrium, they are forced to perform an external act of will, which sharply places them on one side and often forces them to be. the long-term or eternal consequences of this act. This is why most people find themselves at a loss in the face of a crime, and this confusion is all the greater, the more daring and self-assured the villain, and what plausible motives don't come to the aid of those drawn to safe passivity. Aversion to violence, pity for the villain,

false humility, I myself am a sinful man, an excuse for one's lack of authority, a duty to preserve oneself for the family, a reluctance to become an informer, the wise maxim when in doubt, abstain, and much more. All this serves one purpose, to justify and embellish their religious and moral desertion. This is precisely why those who have not lost their conscience often feel such gratitude and even delight towards the one who takes the burden of temptation upon himself and frees them with his act of suppression from the unpleasant duality and subsequent remorse. Being unprepared, this is such a common thing. Another word for unprepared might be weakness.

And the regime knows how to keep us constantly off balance. Yeah, we have the castle doctrine in Pennsylvania. But if anyone actually carries it out, you're going to be in court for years. You could go broke. And they may still get convicted. Even self-defense is is, is, is challenged. I mean, who can deal with that? And yet, some of us may have no choice one day in a case of a home invasion. But whenever, and he's, I guess he's back a little bit talking about Tolstoy. here. Look at this great, brilliant writer. He says, I don't have to do anything, you know, because I can't, I can't resist. That's a Christian thing to do. That's wonderful. And the false humility is another wonderful. I've heard this before. How can I judge someone when I'm a sinner

sinner myself? Which doesn't make any sense. It makes absolutely know what they're doing has nothing to do with your sins in the past. In fact, if anything, it gives you more authority. Um, you know, sometimes when the state, actually, well, you know, not the natural law says when the state either cannot or will not carry out its law enforcement, um, uh, duties, then that falls to the best people in the area. Um, and that's what the lack of authority means. The regime hates any kind of vigilanteism. Now, we know that that could go way out of hand. But in any situation, like in Detroit, for example, where the city doesn't have power in a lot of areas, no-go zones all over Europe today. You know, that's a, you know, the people have to defend themselves. And, of course, that's a whole separate issue, especially where races are concerned and where any kind of self-defense is concerned. so he's really talking about he's talking about us he's talking about you know an individual matter um and that comes from being unprepared you know and he said from the very beginning of this book

no you can't fight evil unless you yourself are struggling to be a virtuous man now it doesn't doesn't mean you can't you may have no choice but to confront it i keep going back to the guy with the knife uh the kid you know i don't care how sinful i am I don't care the fact that I don't, I'm not a policeman, that I don't like violence, anything that, whatever those things, it's ridiculous not to intervene there. And that kid's family should and will blame you,

as much as the psycho who's doing it. And then when you see, when you come across someone who says, know that it's wrong. You shouldn't intervene in these cases and give some nice philosophical discussion about it. You say the gratitude and delight you feel. And that's part of the reason

why some of these so-called pacifists end up becoming popular. Because it's not the entire thing, but because it lifts the burden of actually having to do anything. Citizenship means nothing to them. because, you know, the battle with evil, with criminality, you know, the police are the last resort. They're not the first resort, they're the last resort.

Because they only come when a crime has already been committed. It's the people that keep it from being committed. The locals. You know, your lady is always watching everybody. That comes from something. it comes from an old tradition it used to be

that when you've done something wrong even your neighbors would whack you not just the parents you still see that in some old Italian neighborhoods I've seen that black neighborhoods are kind of like that sometimes

I've heard but the you know so a strong community is very hard for an outsider to commit evil against therefore evil requires atomism it requires individualism

and if you are insecure and you don't even know who you are let alone whether I have the authority to fight evil you're not going to do a damn thing now when Tolstoy comes around oh isn't this wonderful not only is it do I don't have to do anything but the criminal himself it's not even his fault and I'm only angry because they're black or something like that

you know Tolstoy wouldn't talk like that obviously but Today's pacifist is talking like that, so-called Christian socialist and Christian anarchist, that there wasn't a Christian socialist party in Austria. That was national socialist, in fact. So I think they've destroyed the concept. And they're always pacifists, except for the revolution, anyway. They're pacists when it suits them. But not only do you don't have to do anything, but it's not the criminals' fault.

And it's racist to even think about it. It's racist to even leave an area because it's violent. And the violence is being done by black. I've heard it all. And when you come across this first time, especially you're an isolated individual who does have a conscience and its conscience is keeping you awake at night. Oh, good.

I don't even have to think about it. I'm not going to do anything. And now listen, Tolsoi tells me I don't have to do anything. Wonderful for them. All this means that evil not only invades all souls with a bold temptation, a call, and the poison of example, but demands from the majority a spiritually insufficient heroism, vision, spiritual maturity, and outward resolve. It poisons souls not only with its explosion, but also with the poisonous consciousness of one's own betrayal, which it evokes in weak souls, and which in itself is tantamount to a half victory for evil.

This is why he who compels and suppresses is doing a faithful deed, precious for the entire inner struggle against evil in all people. He, as it were, receives that sword of great dissection between good and evil, of which the mysterious words of the gospel speak. I came not to bring peace, but a sword, all in Matthew, Mark, and Luke's gospel. Yep. He heroically reveals the opposition between good and evil, draws a clear and precious line between them, helps people recognize this line and maintain it in their inner world,

saves himself and others from the guilt of complicity and self-contempt, restrains the violent outpouring of evil, and delivers people from overwhelming temptation. He affirms within himself and reveals to others the power of goodness, which naturally seeks holistic existence in external action, and not only creative but also reflective, and it is understandable why people bearing in mind this dividing distinguishing and protecting function of the good rational force mentally turns to the bright image of an angel and specifically a guardian angel you know the conscience is our you know the central part of of of our soul it's our heart it's that's what's going to be judged uh and refusing to intervene when we could have

that will be brought up so to speak in the judgment day your your your your conscience will be exposed no excuses no nonsense uh sense of what the judgment is um and for those who you know we live in an era where sociopathy and people approaching sociopathy are becoming increasingly common you have people who don't even see these things as evil um if you remember back in the clinton era everyone was talking about crimes going down uh and i and i and i and i I reminded them that, you know, big city police departments have had their police forces slashed in this era. That used to be, it used to be 45,000 policemen in New York City. That isn't anywhere near the case anymore.

City governments can't afford it. And that doesn't mean that there's less crime being committed. All that means is that there's no one to take any action against it. Or arrest records show crime. it's gone down. No, it's there's fewer policemen. That's the issue. But again, he's going over this concept that the very existence of evil forces us to look inside. We know that we're sinners. That has absolutely nothing to do with our taking action against something that we know is evil within our own world.

And we have certainly plenty of examples of that, depending on where you live. And the guardian angels also this voice assisting the conscience and bringing this up. And hopefully that good men who do nothing will not sleep at night. And then come across something that will, you know, this is why I'm not sleeping at night. Natural law says, I have to take action.

where the state cannot or will not, hopefully in concert with others. And mentioning, finally, after all these pages, I came not to bring peace but a sword, the sort of division, sort of violence. Again, Christ was not a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination. Certainly neither were the apostles. They were killed because they were overwhelmed. There were nothing.

They were one man, a handful of followers, nothing what they could do. Christ allowed himself to be killed because that was, you know, the nature of our salvation. It had nothing to do with pacifism. And I've actually heard people saying, I'm such a sinner, how dare I take action against others? Or even judge others. We haven't even started talking about the concept of judgment. How dare you judge me? In other words, how dare I point out something about,

you that you're doing incorrectly, you're doing this morally wrong. You would rather not have anyone mentioned. I am daring. I'm telling you. And I've done it before. I assume you've done it before. It doesn't make you popular. But I've done it many times before, actually.

Right, my own family. And it's just a matter of personality. but if a man is weak he needs other men near him that could build him up this is the power of a healthy community which is why the regime for so long that's on everything in its power to destroy

everything from the extended family to the ethnic community you've read the slaughter of cities by E. Michael Jones the ethnic community was the central institution in places like Philadelphia in New York City and Boston. It was deliberately destroyed by the regime.

And the only one left was the Jewish one, which of course is very cohesive. And the blacks in the projects who are very cohesive. That's it. Everyone else has been cast to the suburbs where this kind of action is really unheard of. You won't take any action.

You call the police, you know, and that's pretty much the end of it. But when it comes to you taking action, how many of your typical Americans or bourbon fathers will actually do it? And thank God, I never had to in a violent way, you know, with my kids or anything like that. But, you know, what would you do?

And that's what you have to think about and develop in your own mind because we are surrounded by evil constantly. I remember in 2020 that make-believe the overdose of George Floyd as they called killing black gangs were coming into the suburbs

they were attacking if you remember they were attacking restaurants and screaming and yelling white people were just sitting there now maybe others fought back and it just wasn't you're not going to put that on the news but in the footage I saw

these fat black girls would be coming in screaming about how evil white people are in a restaurant in the sub suburb and the white people just be sitting there. I saw a video recently of a black guy stealing stuff at a mall from a kiosk of very expensive cell phones. And no one did a thing. And that's one of the ways you can tell that we live in a, you don't mean, unhealthy but dying society. The white blood cells aren't there to take action. and the white blood cells that are there

get labels attached to them. Many of them go off to prison for daring to take action. It's a, it's, you know, this is one of the, this is one of the,

it's why I use the word touchstone. It's one of the central, criterion, if not the central criteria, of how to tell a healthy society from an unhealthy one. It's how we deal with stuff like that. When there's no community,

crime is everywhere and therefore the regime is on all it's all it can to destroy community except for those races that it finds useful for the moment it is clear that if evil did not possess an aggressive tendency or did not express itself in external actions then resistance to it through physical suppression would be unnecessary and impossible it is precisely the aggressiveness of evil and its need to express itself in external actions that makes counter-attacks against it necessary. It would be in vain to counter this by citing the fact that the external acts add nothing to malice and, in the presence of the latter, is immaterial. The one who desires evil is related to the doer of evil, as the one who restrains himself

is related to the one who does not restrain himself, as the one who does not dare is related to the one who dares, and the one who does condemn evil, even if only with a corner of his soul, is related to the one who approves of it, as the one who has not yet been confirmed in evil is related to the one who has given himself over to it. All other things being equal, the guilt of the latter is much greater and his maliciousness is greater under all circumstances. It is also futile to think and say that an evil act is caused precisely by external opposition and real historical reality, The situation is precisely the opposite. This is a continuation of what he's said before.

For those who are weak, and we all have these moments of weakness, I tend to be personally, be very excitable and impulsive when it comes to stuff like this, which may or may not be an advantage depending. You know, I've been in so many protests where I've been the first one to get up in front and fight them verbally. Something that I turned out to be pretty talented at. But at the same time, doing that, it's more my anger at them more than my desire to see them convert. and that's where I was incorrect many years ago. Evil, by its very nature,

it's a bit like, again, it's like cancer. It spreads violently. This is what a, what does a virus do? A virus attacks the cell and forces it to work for it, and then get others to work for it, to be metaphor. That's exactly what the virus does. It hijacks it, is a better word. Would it be, I mean, that's not morally evil.

but it's a good metaphor for actual moral evil in a human world the fact that people are people will rather see their neighborhood burn than be called a racist on the internet says that this society is on its last length and you know those people if we're able to ever ever win this in the end and of course God coming back we will

give me the first ones come running up and say, yeah, I was with you all along. And we know better. And it's not just a matter of our personal war with evil. That's ongoing. That's never going to end. And it's very clear that someone who refuses to take action may be even more guilty

than the one, especially a low IQ person, than one who is forcing evil onto others. So and then over time this happens repeatedly it becomes the norm. You know, the proof of this is

in 2020, again, a very, very bad year for us where you had mainstream journalists and academics who were calling for the destruction of police departments. could you imagine if they got their way in certain some places they did in certain some places they they put so many shackles on the cops that in portland is one by the way where many of them simply quit you had people all over the place these twisted uh evil doors

saying that we have to get rid of the police um and if that doesn't prove of the illness of the sickness that infects this society, this isn't going to goad even weak people into action, then nothing will. I used to say, I remember the bailouts, I vaguely remember the bailouts of Chrysler. That was long as a kid.

But after 2008, the collapse, I remember reading, I was getting my car service, and I was reading in the waiting room about the bailout that was going on. I remember thinking myself, this is now public knowledge that we're being forced to bail out big companies as we're losing our job, getting our houses repossessed, whatever it is.

Sometimes it's the same company. You know, it becomes you're all getting bailed out. If that doesn't create a huge movement against them, that nothing will. That might be the end. And of course, it didn't. And it, you know, I thought there'd be more of a reality. action. But, you know, I can be naive that way sometimes. Throughout human history, the best people have perished, violated by the worst in various

eras and communities, until the best dared to offer a systematic and organized rebuff. This has always been the case, and it always will be. The radical evil that dwells within man triumphs until it is restrained and until it is contained. And wherever this restraining and restraining force does not arise within the individual, it must and does come from without, from others in the form of external resistance and the fear of suffering it evokes through fear of pain, St. Augustine. External alien force is necessary for a person to lean, to learn to maintain the correct social boundaries in their behavior, so that this boundary gradually becomes their own, internally supported and voluntarily accepted. Then fear will transform

into respect and strengthen their sense of duty, while suffering will prompt them to turn inward and discover its source in their own imperfections. Coercion and restraint are necessary to awaken and strengthen a defective soul, a sense of justice and morality, each of which, in its own way, leads to true morality or, in its own way, brings it closer. You can tell I'm getting tired when you see stuff like that. at the time. The very act he's saying here at the end,

the very act of doing battle itself helps purify your own battle against evil personally. When you see it externalized, you realize how horrible that must be internalized. I never got into pornography like a lot of guys did for a whole bunch of reasons. The main reason is because I read a lot about it. And what I read about were doing all these directors who abandoned that industry and wrote books about it, the torture that they put these girls through. It is disgusting.

It is vile. There is no way. Even if I were tempted, there is no way I could get into that now. So, in other words, it's, you know, it's our, this is a very battle against. that has helped purifying. It would be that issue or a million others. The stuff that I saw when I was at the fighting the abortion clinics in Hartford in 1990, in 1991 in downtown Hartford,

I saw how the women are being dragged in there. Almost every couple, the woman is being dragged in there. It changed me completely. It wasn't just you're opposed to abortion on some, you know, and an abstract, you know, pro-life thing. But you actually saw it in front of you, how evil it is. And the woman's sense of maternity kicks in at that last minute and tries to get, get out of it.

Almost every time, almost every time. When I was there, doing the so-called sidewalk counseling thing. I used to, you know, we had like maybe 30 of us, 20 of us. so the very act of taking action also helps you not only in terms of learning but evil then looks so vile that the war against it internally is a little bit easier and he says here coercion and restraint necessary to awaken and strengthen defect of soul i certainly had one then i have one now a sense of justice and morality that will lead to true morality or at least bringing in closer.

And that is certainly the case. And because evil is, in essence, one thing, although it takes many, many forms, you know that evil that we see in front of our faces is the very same temptations we deal with all the time internally. And when you see how wicked and disgusting it is out there, we realize internally that by giving into it, that's what we're accepting. There's almost a form of purification. You know, it's a way to, you know, it's a way to reduce our own sinfulness.

And I think this is very important. This is the first time he's mentioning this. I think it's the first time he's mentioning this. But so a healthy community can fix defective souls this way. And I invited a lot of my friends to go to that thing back when I was in college in Hartford, University of Hartford. And yet, it changed them, too. Seeing it like that. I said, now watch.

Never the same again. And it's, you know, that's part of our purification. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is the first time he's mentioned that. Taking action itself is a way to pure. So long, however, as our motives are good. They're not going to be perfect. none of us are perfect, so long as they're good. And we were struggling to make sure this is about the right thing, not about ourselves.

This taming and re-educating process, transforming the humanoid animal into a social and disciplined being, has been going on for millennia. The more social and discipline this animal is, the more accessible it is to spiritual culture, and the more accessible it is to the work of inner self-education. The very idea of the possibility of resistance through non-recentral resistance, is bestowed upon humanity and proves applicable when and insofar as the general ancestral process of taming the beast within man through threat and punishment, the Old Testament, creates an accumulated and settled results of taming and discipline, a kind of existential minimum of legal consciousness and morality, opening hearts to the realm of love and spirit,

the New Testament. However, the new teaching by no means condemns abolish the or rejects threatened punishment, both the sword and God's servant are still necessary to punish him who practices evil, Romans 3.4. Besides this path, a new, higher, and gracious path has already been established, not the only one, but the primary one. That is God's path, which does not condemn, but rather comprehends and sanctifies the former path, the path of Caesar. It is precisely where the beast is tamed and the devil and the soul is suppressed, that the ability, the inclination, and the objective social possibility awakens to nurture souls with the word of reason and the deed of yielding love. But where this is absent, the word falls upon barren

stones and wasted kindness is trampled by ferocious beasts, Matthew 7.6. Therefore, the storm, sending fear and suffering, is still necessary. Well, the one thing, I guess it's kind of a minor thing. I do disagree with his Old Testament comprehension. Threat and punishment are always there, as well as love and spirit. There's plenty of love and spirit in the Old Testament,

too, if you read the prophets. You know, I think that's a minor issue, but that irritated me slightly. But this is one of these things. It's a continuation of the last two paragraph.

And he sees Caesar, that is to say, the monarchy, as a moral force. This isn't just a matter of administration. This is how the beast is tamed. And the beast is tamed through, not just through the fear of punishment, but once you realize how much easier your life is if you don't go down that path in the first place. It's not just because, and, you know, the minute, You live in a society where people just don't do things because they're afraid of being punished. Rather, a healthy society, you don't do things because it's a wrong thing to do.

That's the key distinction. And Aristotle's thought, true virtue is when you do the right thing because it's pleasurable to you. Of course, that's, you know, often never the case. But you would be very advanced in virtue if the right thing was always the pleasurable thing in your mind. And it takes this kind of discipline to get to that point. I don't know if anyone actually gets to that point. But keep in mind throughout all of this, always keep an eye on your own motivations.

As I said before, there's been so many demonstrations where I'm just angry. And I'm just letting off steam with these people. Rather than, and it was funny if you were there. Rather than converting them or talking to them, you know, in a normal way, putting out, you know. But those people who were talking about the abolition of the police department, whenever they were forced to, I read a few papers on this from the academics, and they said, rather than coercion, they, if you remember this or not, they wanted to empower psychology.

that would send psychologists and counselors to deal with crime rather than actual armed policemen. That was actually taken seriously for a while. Now, in a healthy society, maybe that wouldn't be crazy, but it's not a healthy society. What happened in El Salvador over the last few years shows you the absolute necessity for a state of emergency and the use of extreme violence to save the society. Once society, once that's gone, then you can rebuild. The El Salvador case was interesting because once the gangs were removed, society was able to rebuild the society.

They didn't need anyone to tell it. People were coming out of their homes. They had their old festivals again. They didn't have to worry about giving 75% of their take to the crime lord locally. That happens almost naturally. but that kind of extreme violence has to be done if if the president of El Salvador didn't take action in the extreme way he did

there wouldn't be in El Salvador today it would be essentially carved up among various gang factions and then that would be their base to use against everyone else around them that's exactly where they were going therefore you can't talk about habeas corpus I don't want to hear but that's for peaceful times this is now a war a war for a very existence therefore that needs to be dropped and the army militia policemen has to be given every power possible

within reason to destroy them then of course they're you know restrained by the same president once it's over and then society can rebuild how do you build an economy uh in that kind of a situation you can only build anything that lasts once those people are gone and people feel secure again. That was during the so-called Biden administration. Biden tried to put sanctions on El Salvador for this, condemning them violently for taking action against, because maybe some innocent people may be thrown in jail. That was at least the claim. I think a lot of people were getting jipped on their drug cut, but, you know, the left has always had this love affair with criminals. and you guaranteed wherever

you know the drug war is one I have I've had some friends challenged me on the Philippines but it's been one elsewhere too certainly in Afghanistan you're going to get condemnation and of course El Salvador is the other place China in the

1840 to the extent that the opium wars were the result it can be one. That's to have a healthy society to begin with. And you have to take state action. I remember Duterte in the Philippines said, you know, if you're an addict, I give you permission to kill your dealer,

which made me laugh. He certainly did a lot of damage to the drug trade when he was mayor of devout. But when you're driving, drowning in this. You have to take extreme measures. Just like when you're drowning personally in sin, you have to take extreme measures against yourself. You have to go away for a while. You go to a monastery, whatever you need to do. And it's, you know, this is, this is, this is what he's trying to say here, and it's very important. And a lot of people don't want to deal with it or even

talk about it. Well, we're coming up to a natural, it looks like you put a natural break here, and this next section goes on for a while. So let's call it here. Come back on the next episode. Pick it up from right here. And what I will do at this time is to remind people to go over to the show notes and to go over to the descriptions in the video and donate to Dr. Johnson's work. He will appreciate it. He has said it. He says it. He says it every episode. And I don't think that most people understand just how appreciative we are of the support that we get that. allows us to be able to do this, I mean, all day where you know, you wake up and read and take notes and plan out, you know, the next thing that you're going to do. I do it and Dr. Johnson does it five times, probably five times a volume I do as his study goes and probably understands it

better than I do. I'm just saying, I'm just being honest. Um, you're, um, you're, I appreciate the flattery there. Yeah, you're, yeah, I know, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. And in the fact that I'm very specialized in, in one area. Correct. Um, that, yeah, so in that sense, uh, that's the only way this can be done. This isn't a part-time job. This isn't a hobby. This is a vocation. Of course, not everyone in the world is going to have this vocation. You know, we're doing the right thing, and then you could be involved by assisting those who do have the vocation. All right. We will talk in a couple days. Thank you very much, as always. Talk to them, my friend.