The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Episodes 21-30

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

9 Hours and 1 MinutePG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Here are episodes 21-30 in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

I want to welcome everyone back to part 21 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenysohn. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I'm doing very well, but I can't guarantee the behavior, the cats. They're just waking up and anything can happen. So, especially with the kittens. So just steal yourself because it's just, it's chaotic action. I, we got a kitten recently and I am well aware. I was reminded of what having a kitten is like.

All right, here we go. Starting chapter six in the Russian Revolutionary Movement. And right up front, there's a bunch of names here right at the beginning that I'm going to, I'm going to stumble over. So please forgive me, you Russian speakers who have contact. You could, if there's a list, you know, you could just skip over them and say, you know, if it gets too bad, yeah, there's a ton of names here that's very, that's very possible. They could always just see the text. Okay. All right.

In the Russian Revolutionary Movement, in the Russia of the 60s and 70s of the 19th century, when reforms moved rapid. there were no economic or social motives for a far-reaching revolutionary movement. Yet it was indeed under Alexander II from the beginning of his reforming work that this movement was born as to prematurely ripened fruit of ideology. In 1861, there were student demonstrations in St. Petersburg. In 1862, violent fires of criminal origin in St. Petersburg as well, and the sanguinary proclamation of young Russia, Molodoya Russia in 1866, Karakazov's gunshots, gunshot,

the prodromes of the terrorist era, half a century in advance. Let's stop right here. That first sentence tells you everything you need to know. Russia, in this era, was doing extremely well. it had the most advanced factory legislation in the world the urban artel had you know thousands of independent workers in the cities

there was no more serfdom peasants were governed by their own democratic communes Russia was feeding the world economic growth both agriculturally and in terms of well in population growth too was going through the roof incomes all over the place were increasing of course as always

the lowest tax rate in the European world minimal I don't think or zero debt and and yet you have this revolutionary movement you also had Jews and that answers the question

and it was also under Alexander the second one the restrictions of the rights of the Jews were so relaxed that Jewish names appeared among the revolutionaries. Neither in the circles of Stankov, Herzn, or Ogoriov, nor of that of Petrakevsky, there had been only one Jew. We do not speak here of Poland. But at the student demonstrations of 1861, Mikuls, Wutin, and Gwen will participate, and we shall find Wutin in the circle of Nakayev. The participation of the Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement must get our attention. Indeed, radical revolutionary action became a more and more widespread form of

activity among Jewish youth. The Jewish Revolutionary Movement is a qualitatively important component of the Russian Revolutionary Movement in general. As for the ratio of Jewish and Russian revolutionaries over the years, it surprises us. Of course, if in the following pages we speak mainly of Jews, this in no way implies that there was not a large number of influential revolutionaries among the Russians. Our focus is warranted by the subject of our study. In fact, until the early 70s, only a few small number of Jews had joined the revolutionary movement and in secondary roles at that, in part no doubt because there were still very few Jews among the students. One learns, for example, that Leon Deutsch at the age of 10 was outraged about

Karakazov's gunshot because he felt patriotic. Similarly, few Jews adhered to the Russian nihilism of the 60s that, nevertheless, by their rationalism, they assimilated easily. Nialism had played an even more beneficial role in Jewish student youth than in Christian youth. Let's define the term. Nialism was a term that became very popular in Russian culture, and not just because of Georgianna of either. It doesn't mean that they believe in nothing despite the Latin.

A nihilist in the Russian context was someone like Piassadav. It was essentially what we would call today a positivist. Someone who claims quite dogmatically that science is the only way to knowledge. So that's not touched by the nihilo in nihilism. and the only way to get knowledge is through observation so your typical

very stereotypical laboratory scientist and there's no reason to believe anything else you know it's not that they

they don't talk about spiritual things or anything else because they think it's nonsensical and you can't really experiment with it therefore

it doesn't exist that's what we mean by anilist in the Russian context. So they were essentially a materialist, atheist, nominalist, or at least deists, you know, and believer in the future progress of the scientific method. However, as early as the 70s, the circle of young Jews of the rabbinical school of Vilnius began to play an important role, among them V. Joklsen whom we mentioned later, and the well-known terrorist A. Zundalevich, both brilliant pupils

destined to be excellent rabbis, A. Lieberman, future editor of La Pradovda of Vienna, and Anna Einstein, Maxim Romm, Finkelstein. This circle was influential because it was in close contact with the smugglers and permitted clandestine literature, as well as illegal immigrants themselves, to cross the border. Mostly coming from Great Britain, by the way. It was in 1868 after high school that Mark Natinson entered the Academy of Medicine and Surgery, which would become the Academy of Military Medicine. He will be as an organizer and a leading figure in the revolutionary movement, soon with the young student Olga Schleisner, his future wife, whom Tika Mirov calls the second Sophia Parovskaya, although at the time she was rather the first. He laid the foundations of a system of so-called pedagogical circles, that is to say,

of propaganda, preparatory, cultural, and revolutionary work with intellectual youths in several large cities. These circles were wrongly dubbed Chikovskyists named after one of their lesser influential members, N.V. Chikovsky. Natanson distinguished himself very quickly and resolutely. from the circle of Nakayev, and he did not hesitate subsequently to present his views to the examining magistrate. In 1872, he went to Zurich with Pierre Lavrov, the principal representative of the current of Pacific propaganda, which rejected the rebellion. Natinson wanted to establish a permanent revolutionary organ there. In the same year, he was sent to Shenkirsk in close exile,

And through the intercession of his father-in-law, the father of Olga Schleiser, he was transferred to Voronish, then Finland, and finally released to St. Petersburg. He found there nothing but discouragement, dilapidation, inertia. He endeavored to visit disunited groups to connect them, to weld them, and thus found that the first land and freedom organization and spending hundreds of thousands of rubles. I think it's safe to say that given how well that Russia was doing, the very fact that they didn't have a prison system, they don't have a, what we would call a regular police force, the czar was popular, and under him, every institution was democratic and self-governing. Russia was doing very well and yet these Jews who personally were doing very well it's very rare to find a Jewish revolutionary who wasn't from the upper classes

so what was the problem the problem is that you know Jews once they were set free from their Kahul and anything else and got you know education in the West and whatever else they were doing, certainly connected with Great Britain, could not,

you know, they couldn't abide by a very strong, prosperous Orthodox Russia with a monarch, a very strong monarchy that controlled its currency. There was no objective reason to overthrow anything. The Jews, however, had a completely

different mentality. They hate Christianity. They hate the Third Rome. and they certainly hated Alexander III. If there were no Jews in Russia, 1872, there would have been no revolutionary movement. Among the principal organizers of Russian populism, Natinsen is the most eminent revolutionary. It was in his wake that the famous Leon Deutsch appeared. As for the ironclad populist Alexander Mikhailov, Mikhailov, he was a disciple of Mark the Wise.

Natinson knew many revolutionaries personally. Neither in order nor a writer, he was a born organizer and dad with an astonishing quality. He did not regard opinions and ideology. He did not enter into any theoretical discussions with anyone. He was in accord with all tendencies, with the exception of the extremist positions of Chukov, Lenin's predecessor, placed each and everyone where they could be useful. In those years when Bekhov, Coonan supporters and Lavrov supporters were irreconcilable, Natanson proposed to put an end to discussions about the music of the future and to focus instead on the real needs of the cause.

It was he who in the summer of 1876 organized a sensational escape of Pieter Kripotkin on the barbarian, that half-blood who would often be spoken of. In December the same year, he conceived and set up the first public meeting in front of the Cathedral of Our Lady of Kazan at the end of the mass on the day of St. Nicholas. All the revolutionaries gathered there, and for the first time, the red flag of land and liberty was displayed. Natanson was arrested in 177, sentenced to three years detention, then relegated to Yakudia, and dismissed from revolutionary action until 1890. Well, there were two major names dropped here. Bakunin is the first one. My second one is

Kropotkin. These are the two major leaders, writers, organizers in the anarchist movement. Anarchism, as silly as it is in this context, was very much a Russian phenomenon. Bakunin, I don't know if this is going to come up later. Bakunin was well aware. And he, he, as vile as he was in a lot of different ways, he's the one who attacked Karl Marx of simply being a mouthpiece for the Jews, for the, for the Rothschilds. A lot of the leftists don't want to deal with this. But, but Coonan said that Marxism is a Rothschild front, you know, the head of the, you know, another revolutionary, a revolutionary group. Kupotkin was a little different.

And Bakunin also, by the way, I dedicated a book to Lucifer as the first real revolutionary. He's not a good guy. But these are the two, probably the two biggest names and anarchism at the time. And obviously, you know, Leninism and anarchism are very different, very different ideologies. You notice here, at the end, land and liberty always made me laugh. Land. Well, peasants were already in control of the land. the point of the reforms.

So I'm not sure what they, you know, they constantly refer to the landlords, like they're in Britain. People still talk about that. The peasants were in full control of the land after 1861, and that got even deeper as time went on. So they deliberately then did something to get arrested.

They took out the red flag after the liturgy and at the cathedral showing that that was the target. The fact that this was an Orthodox country was offensive to these people. There was no objective economic foundation for any kind of revolution, especially one so radical as the anarchist one.

There were a number of Jews in the circle of the Chikovskists in St. Petersburg, as well as in the branches in Moscow, Kiev, Odessa. in Kiev, notably P.B. Axelrod, whom we had already mentioned, the future Danish publisher and diplomat Gregori Garevich, future teachers Semyon Lorry and Leiser Lowenthal, his brother Namin Lohenthal, and the two commoner sisters. As for the first nihilist circle of Leon Deutsch in Kiev, it was constituted exclusively of young Jewish students. After the demonstration in front of the Cathedral of Our Lady of Kazan, three Jews were tried, but not Nat and Sin himself. At the trial of the 50, which took place in the summer of 1877 in Moscow, several Jews were charged with spreading propaganda among factory workers. At the trial of the 13th and 93, there were 13 Jews accused. Among the early populace, we can also cite Lusuf Optekman and Alexander Katinsky, who were highly influential.

I want to note, too, the word populism comes up. I don't like that being used in the Russian context. It has nothing to do with, I remember one day at the Barnes Review, Willis Cardo came into my office. Oh, there was a populist movement in Russia. What about, I said, I said, Willis, listen, this is not, this has no connection with what we would call populism. This was just a revolutionary movement that thought that somehow they could organize the peasants against the system, despite they're not being any good reason to join them. We'll see some more comic versions of that. They had no connection with the common people.

I don't think they particularly cared for the common people, but they pretended to, and that's where populism comes from. It's a terrible word to use in this case, but the war's going to come up again and again. and to be clear that this was a nihilistic movement. Natanson's idea was that revolutionary should involve the people, peasants, and be for them like lay spiritual guides. This march to the people, which has become so famous since then, began in 1873 in the Dolgishinian Circle, where no Jews were courted. Later, the Jews also went to the people. The opposite also happened in Odessa P. Axelrod tried to attract Jolie Obov in a secret revolutionary organization, but he refused. At the time, he was still a culturcer. In the mid-70s, there were only about 20 of these populists, all or almost all Lavrov and not Bukunin. Only the most extreme were listening to calls for the insurrection of Bacunin, such as Doy, who, with the help of Stefanovic,

had raised the Chilgoidin revolt by having pushed the peasants into thinking that the Tsar, surrounded by the enemy, had the people saying, turn back all these authorities, seize the land, and establish a regime of freedom. It is interesting to note that almost no...

The only way they can get listened to is to lie. It's to say, oh, no, the czar they know how loyal these people are so they have to go to them and say oh no the czar wants you to revolt i'm one of you i mean i mean the two the people movement it's called was really hilarious uh it went nowhere so you have these urban jews who have probably never seen a peasant before who just see them as ignorant totally you know underestimating them in every way they dressed up in peasant garb which probably was generally out of date, tried to speak the vernacular of the peasant. Of course, these are Jews. They probably still had an accent. They looked ridiculous. And they realized that the minute they started talking subversive, they'd get into the village and end up getting arrested. They just get handed over to the first, you know, get the hell out of here. So when that happened, they had to come up with a plan. Now we have to say, oh, no, we, there's

We know all about what's going on in Petersburg. We know you love him and we love him too. He wrote a letter saying, you guys have to kill the nobility. But his inner circle won't let that be released. That was a tactic that they used over and over again. It didn't go anywhere. They didn't believe them. These people had no idea how ridiculous they must have appeared to the peasants.

they completely underestimated their intelligence. So it says all of the stereotypes that these Jewish leftists had about the peasantry trying to actually go to them and talk to them was really, it's a comedy. And they ended up, you know, they ended up probably getting beaten up. They weren't killed, but they were beaten up

and roughed up and kicked out. You know, with this, like we would call today, someone going to the rednecks with a, with a Brooklyn accent would be something like what this was. So it really was, it's a comic failure. But it was, that, that tells you a lot about the Jewish mentality, how arrogant that they thought that, well, we could just tell those people anything. They're like children. And it didn't quite work that one.

It is interesting to note that almost no Jewish revolutionary launched into the revolution because of poverty, but most of them came from wealthy families. In the three volumes of the Russian Jewish Encyclopedia, there is no sure. shortage of examples. Only Paul Axelrod came from a very poor family, and, as we have already said, he had been sent by the Kahal to an institution solely to supplement the established quota. From there, very naturally, he entered the gymnasium of Mogilev, then the high school of Najin. Came from wealthy merchant environment. It came from wealthy merchant environments. Natanson, Deutsch, Aptecman, whose family had many Talmudist doctors of the law, including all his uncles, Kaczynski, Garevich, Simeon Lurie, whose family, even in this milieu, was

considered aristocratic. Little Simon was also destined to be a rabbi, but under the influence of the Enlightenment, his father, Gertzlory, had entrusted his son to college to become a professor, the first Italian Marxist Anne Rosenstein, surrounded from childhood by governesses speaking several languages, the tragic figures of Moses Ravinovich and Betty Kaminskaya Felice Schieftel, Joseph Gutzov, members of the Black repartition,

among many others. And then again, Christina Kasha Grinberg, of a wealthy traditionalist merchant family, who in 1880 joined the will of the people. Her dwelling house clandestine meetings, she was an accomplice in the attacks on Alexander II and even became in 1882 the owner of a clandestine dynamite factory that was condemned to deportation. Neither did Fannie Morinnis come from a poor family.

She also participated in the preparation of the attacks against the emperor Alexander II and spent two years in the prison of Kara. Some came from families of rabbis such as the future doctor of philosophy, Leobov Axelrod, or Ida Axelrod, There were also families of the petty bourgeoisie, but wealthy enough to put their children through college, such as Azeke Oranchic, after college, he entered the School of Engineers of St. Petersburg, where he soon abandoned to embark in revolutionary activities, Alexander Bebergal, Vladimir Bogoraz, Lazarus Goldenberg, the Lowenthal Brothers, often mentioned as made in the biographies of the aforementioned of the Academy of Military Medicine, notably in those of Natinson, Birberghal, Isaac Pavlovsky, future counter-revolutionary, M. Rabinovich, A. Katinsky, Solomon Chednovsky, Solomon Aronson, who happens to be involved in these circles, among others. Therefore, it was not material need that drove them, but the strength of their convictions. I think, I'm pretty sure he's being, he's being circled.

here when I wrote a book published by the Barns of View actually called the Soviet experiment

and it's unique because it starts off saying I'm going I'm going to show you that class the workers

the proletariat had zero to do with the agenda of Lenin and Trotsky that was a pretext

the point all of this was to figure out some way to destabilize what at the time was a relatively popular monarchy, a relatively popular church despite the old believers. Get rid of them and take the wealth of this massive area for themselves. Don't forget there's one key element here. As far as revolutionaries outside of Russia, Russia was seen as

as the ogre. Russia single-handedly destroyed revolutionaries. I mean, you know, in 1848, it was Nicholas I first that put the emperor who had been driven out of Vienna back on the throne. He didn't get thanked for it. In fact, you got a war out of it, but Karl Marx says this. Engel says this. We could go on and on talking about the Marxists, how they despise the Slav. and in particular

the Eastern Slav of the Russian Orthodox these people were slated for annihilation this comes straight out of Marx and Engels and very uncharacteristic they get all emotional about it

and stuff they love the Crimean War they hated the anti-war movement that was developing in England over the Crimean War but class equality the proletariat

that had absolutely nothing to do with their hatred of the Russian monarchy and church, and therefore the Soviet system was not about to concern themselves with the workers who they didn't know, didn't understand, and didn't like. It is not without interest to note that in these Jewish families, the adhesion of young people to the revolution has rarely, or not at all, provoked a break between father and sons, between parents and their children. The fathers did not go after the sons very much. The fathers did not go after

the sons very much, as was then the case in Christian families, although Gessia Gelfman had to leave her family a traditional old alliance family in secret. The fathers were often very far from opposing their children. Thus, Gors Lurie, as well as Isaac Kaminer, a doctor from Kiev, the whole family participated in the revolutionary movement of the 70s, and himself, as a sympathizer, rendered great service to the revolutionaries. Three of them became the husbands of his daughters. In the 1990, he joined the Zionist movement and became the friend. Is that, should be the 1890s? Oh, it has to be. Yeah. In the 1890s, he joined the Zionist movement and became the friend of Ahad Ham. Neither can we attribute anti-Russian motivations

to these early Jewish revolutionaries as some do in Russia today. In no way. It all began with the same nihilism of the 60s. Having initiated itself to Russian education and to Goy culture, having been imbued with Russian literature, Jewish youth was quick to join the most progressive movement of the time, nihilism, and with an ease all the greater as it broke out with the prescriptions of the past. Even the most fanatical of the students of a yeshiva immersed in the study of the Talmud, after two or three minutes of conversation with a nihilist, broke with the patriarchal mode of thought. He, the Jew even pious, had only barely grazed the surface of Goy culture. He had only carried out a breach in his vision of the traditional world, but already

he was able to go far, very far, to the extremes. These young men were suddenly gripped by the great universal ideals, dreaming of seeing all men become brothers and all enjoying the same prosperity. The task was sublime to liberate mankind from misery and slavery. And in order to convince someone of that, you know, one of the great things about positivism and this nihilistic mentality is that it was very simple. You just get rid of your differences among people saying the only thing we really know is what we can observe.

We don't have to worry about God. We don't have to worry about the moral order. That was a big one. That's why it doesn't take very long to, you know, you could go to the Jewish owned bars and brothels. and not have to worry about confessing later. It was a big deal to be able to say something like that. You know, monasticism in the Russian Empire was a shadow its former self,

thanks to Peter the Great and Catherine, although it was reviving tremendously at this period of time. You know, it's very easy to convince somebody, especially, you know, a young man, his hormones are going crazy. it won't take long to get him to join you if he thinks he's going to get late remember there was no interaction between men and women generally

prior to the sexual revolution it rarely happened unmarried women were not hidden away but they were you couldn't just go wandering off with a strange boy these people of course were all sexual revolutionaries and I tell you that we all know the one thing that the Jew doesn't believe in is the brotherhood of man but all of these very simple

we know we roll our eyes to this stuff today but at the time it's not something that you heard every day going to you know the Russian Orthodox Church is hard it's difficult we're in Lent right now it's always a struggle we're always falling you know the standards are very high how wonderful would it be to live a life doesn't have any standards So it doesn't take long to convince the weaker young men that maybe there's something to this

and they could go home and maybe Russian literature was full of this stuff. Dostoevsky made fun of it all the time. We believe in the brotherhood of man. How can you be against that? And that's it. But of course, the agenda behind it was far deeper. And there played the role of Russian literature. Pavel Axelrod in high school had as his teachers, Turgenev, Belinsky,

de Brolyobov and later LaSalle, who would make him turn to the revolution. Abtachman was fond of Chernshevsky. Let's go through the list. Look at the text. Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Lizar Goldenberg, too, had read and re-read all of these. And Rudin, who had died in the barricades, was his hero. Solomon Chudnovsky, a great admirer of Pissarev, wept when he died.

The nihilism of Semy and Lurie was born of Russian literature. He had fed on it. This was the case for a very large number. The list would be too long. I want to remind everybody that speaking of Russian literature, I have a book that I wrote many years ago on the topic, the orthodox ideal in Russian literature. Right now it's on sale at Lulu, which is just a vendor. I published it I don't know

about 9 million years ago and a lot of Gogol and this kind of thing Russian literature was one place where the traditionalist orthodox ideal was very much still alive Google of course I've been dead by this point

but if you're interested in the orthodox understanding of literature that book might help although I was very young when I wrote it But today, a century later, there are a few who remember the atmosphere of those years. No serious political action was taking place in the street of the Jews, as it was then called, while in the street of the Russians, populism was rising. It was quite simple.

It was enough to sink and merge into the movement of Russian liberation. Now this fusion was more easily facilitated, accelerated by Russian literature and the writings of radical publicists. By turning to the Russian world, these young people turned away from the Jewish world. Many of them conceived hostility and disdain to Judaism of their fathers, just like toward a parasitic anomaly. In the 70s, there were small groups of radical Jewish youths who, in the name of the ideals of populism, moved more and more away from their people, began to assimilate vigorously and to appropriate the Russian national spirit. Until the mid-70s, the socialist Jews did not consider it necessary to do political work with their fellow. men because they thought the Jews have never possessed land and thus cannot assimilate socialist

ideas. The Jews never had peasants of their own. None of the Jewish revolutionaries of the 70s could conceive of the idea of acting for one's own nation alone. It was clear that one only acted in the dominant language and only for the Russian peasants. For us, there were no Jewish workers. We looked at them with the eyes of russifiers. The Jew must assemble. completely with the native population. Even artisans were regarded as potential exploiters, since they had apprentices and employees. In fact, Russian workers and craftsmen were not accorded any importance as an autonomous

class. They existed only as future socialists who would facilitate work in the peasant world. Assimulation once accepted, these young people, by their situation, naturally tended towards radicalism, having lost on this new soil the solid conservative roots to their former environments. I mean, a revolutionary has to look and sound like a Russian. You know, I think that's mainly what's being said here. You can't preach this as a blatant foreigner who can barely speak Russian.

The fact that these occurred in the revolutionary movements developed in you. and Talmud schools of course that's no shock there were aspects of it that irritated the older generation but that's pretty much universal

assimilation meant that we can present ourselves as Russian remember there was no Zionism I shouldn't say that there was Zionism at the time but it was very minor only the most radical Jews were interested in They wanted to completely remake the goyous society under their control.

That was as close as they were going to get. So I think that's what he means by saying you can't act in one's nation alone. There were so few of them relative to one of Russia. But you had to look and sound like a Russian in order to pull this all. We were preparing to go to the people, and of course to the Russian people. We deny the Jewish religion, like any other religion. We considered our jargon an artificial language and Hebrew a dead language. We were sincere assimilators, and we saw in the Russian education and culture salvation for the Jews.

Why then did we seek to act among the Russian people, not the Jewish people? It comes from the fact that we had become strangers to the spiritual culture of the Jews of Russia and that we rejected their thinkers who belonged to a traditionalist bourgeoisie from the ranks of which we had left ourselves. We thought that, when the Russian people would be freed from the despotism and yoke of the ruling classes, the economic and political freedom of all the peoples of Russia, including the Jewish people, would arise. And it must be admitted that Russian literature has also somewhat inculcated the idea that the Jewish people were not a people, but a parasitic class. Also came into play the feeling of debt owed to the people of Great Russia, as well as the faith of the populist rebels and the imminence of a popular and the impenance of a popular and

insurrection. In the 70s, the Jewish intellectual youth went to the people in the hope of launching with its feeble hands, the peasant revolution in Russia. As Abtickman writes, Natinsen, like the hero of the mystery of Lermontov, knew the hold of only one thought, lived only one, but burning passion. This thought was the happiness of the people, This passion, the struggle for liberation. Aptuckman himself, as depicted by Deutsch, was emaciated of small stature, pale complexion, with very pronounced national features. Having become a village nurse, he announced socialism to the peasants through the gospel.

Let's be clear. He's also an instrument is writing this from the point of view of the Narodnik, of the People's Will organization. This is, at a minimum, what they were telling themselves, or at least what they were telling the public. Of course, a lot of this isn't true, but he's putting their position first before anything. It was a little under the influence of their predecessors, the members of the Delgoucian Circle, which inscribed on the branches of the crucifix in the name of Christ, liberty, equality, fraternity, and almost all preached to gospel that the first Jewish populace turned to Christianity, which they used as a support point and as an instrument.

Apdickman writes about himself, I have converted to Christianity by a movement from the heart and love for Christ, not to be confused with the motives of Tan Borgeras, who in the 80s had converted to Christianity to escape the vexations of his Jewish origin, nor with the faith of Deutsch, with the feint of Deutsch, who went to preach the Molokanis by presenting himself as a good orthodox. How bad did I pronounce Molokanus? Yeah, I'll live.

Probably as good as I would. Okay. But adds Abtachman, in order to give oneself to the people, there is no need to repent. With regard to the Russian people, I had no trace of repentance. Moreover, where could it have come from? It is not rather for me, the descendant of an oppressed nation, to demand the settlement of this dealing, instead of paying the repayment of some. I am not sure which fantastic loan, nor have I observed this feeling of repentance among my comrades of the nobility who were walking with me on the same path. Again, this is from the point of view of the revolutionaries.

These were atheists. They didn't convert to anything. But if you're going to try to develop a peasant revolution, You at least have to know the basic vocabulary. If there's two, if there's, if there's, if there's two groups of people that were completely opposite, it was your urban Jew and the Russian peasant. They had zero in common, but they had lungs and heart and brain, that was, that's probably it.

So, of course, they didn't literally convert. And of course, there's no, no care or interest whatsoever in, in, you know, the Old Testament, that was never the issue. The Talmud was way too long for them to worry about. The Jews are going, and they weren't saying this at the time, but in Germany they were. Moses has, the Jews are going to be their own Messiah. That sounds a lot better than the minute regulations of the Talmud. That doesn't mean the spirit of the Talmud wasn't operating here. So keep in mind, he's, Solzhenitsyn is laying out their public persona,

most of which isn't true, but converting to Christianity, you have to put that in quotes. Let us note in this connection that the idea of rapprochement between the desired socialism and historical Christianity was not unconnected with many Russian revolutionaries at the time and as justification for their action and as a convenient tactical procedure. V. V. V. Floreowski wrote, I always had in mind the comparison between this youth who was preparing for action. and the first Christians. And immediately after the next step, by constantly turning this idea into my head, I have come to the conviction that we will reach our goal only by one means, by creating a new religion. It is necessary to teach the people to devote all their forces to oneself exclusively.

I wanted to create the religion of brotherhood, and the young disciples of Floreski tried to lead the experiment by wondering how a religion that would have neither God nor saints would be received by the people. Well, one thing we know is that they had to use the old vocabulary. This kind of nonsense, it didn't, you know, it didn't really go anywhere. But how it would be received, well, it depends on, you know, there's no way you could talk to a peasant, low nobility, you know, lower ranks, nobility at the time, without being Orthodox. Unless you put things in an Orthodox way. This was, as he says, a tactical procedure.

not going to get anywhere unless you, you know, put yourself forth that way. They say stupid things like, oh, no, we're orthodox. We're going back to the early generations of Christianity. You have the liberation theology, kind of nonsense. So that's what's happening here. His disciple, Gamma, from the circle of Dalgushin, wrote even more crudely, We must invent a religion that would be against the czar and the government. We must write a catechism and prayers in this.

spirit. The revolutionary action of the Jews in Russia is also explained in another way. We find that exposed and then refuted by a. Jrabbenikov, there is a view that if, through the reforms of the years 1860 to 1863, the Pala settlement had been abolished, our whole history would have been, have unfolded otherwise. If Alexander II had abolished a Pala settlement, there would have been neither the Bund nor Trotson. then he mentioned the internationalist and socialist idea that flowed from the west and wrote

if the suppression of the palest settlement had been of capital importance to them all their struggle would have reached towards it now they were occupied with everything else they dreamed of overthrowing czarism and one after the other driven by the same passion they abandoned their studies notably the Academy of military medicine to go to the people every diploma was marked with the seal of infamy as a means of exploitation of the people. They renounced any career, and some broke with their families. For them, every day not put to good use constitutes an irreparable loss, criminal for the realization of the well-being and happiness of the disinherited masses.

And yet, they wanted for nothing. And I think pretty soon we're going to see the role of Great Britain in financing a lot of these selfless revolutionaries. But in order to go to the people, it was not a lot of the people. necessary to make oneself simple, both internally for oneself and practically, to inspire confidence to the masses of the people, one had to infiltrate it under the guise of a workman or a mouchik. However, writes Deutsch, how can you go to the people be heard and be believed when you

are betrayed by your language, your appearance, and your manners? And still, to seduce the listeners, you must throw jokes and good words in popular language. and we must also be skillful in work of the fields, so painful to townspeople. For this reason, Kutinsky worked on the farm with his brother and worked there as a plowman. The Lowenthal brothers learned shoemaking in carpentry. Betty Kamenskaya entered as a worker in a spinning mill to a very hard position. Many became caregivers. Deutsch writes that, on the whole, other activities were better suited to these revolutionary Jews,

works within factions, conspiracy, communications, typography, border crossing. So this is like when an actor has an upcoming role and the role is working in a factory, well, they go and work in a factory. This is the exact same kind of thing. They're putting on an act. But because they got beaten up the last time they did this, now we have to try to convince these people who aren't as dumb as we thought that we really are, just like them.

They're going to get rid of the accent. And I think that's a great analogy. They're actors that are researching a role, and that's exactly what's happening here. The march to the people began with short visits, days of a few months, a fluid march. At first, they relied only on the work of agitation. It was imagined that it would suffice to convince the peasants

to open their eyes to the regime and power and the exploitation of the masses, and to promise that the land and the instruments of production would become the property of all. In fact, this whole march to the people of the populace ended in failure, and not only because of some inadvertent gunshot directed against the Tsar, which obliged them all to flee the country and to hide very far from the cities, but above all, because the peasants perfectly deaf to their preaching, were even sometimes ready to hand them over to the authorities. The populists, the Russians, hardly more fortunate, like the Jews, lost the faith in a spontaneous

revolutionary will and in the socialist instincts of the peasantry and transformed the impenitent, transformed into impenitent pessimists. I think pessimism just means, okay, if they're not going to go along, we're going to have to use more coercive methods of convincing. clandestine action, however, worked better. Three residents of Minsk, Lozav Goetsov, Sal Lefkhov, and Sal Grinfest succeeded in setting up a clandestine press in their city that would serve the country as a whole. It survived until 1881. It was there that was printed in gold letters to leaflet on the execution of Alexander II.

It printed the newspaper The Black Repartition, and then the proclamations of the World. will of the people. Deutsch referred to them as peaceful propagandists. Apparently, the term peaceful embraced everything that was not bombing, smuggling, illegal border crossing, and even the call to avoid paying taxes, appeal to the peasants of Lazare Goldenberg. Many of these Jewish revolutionaries were heavily condemned, heavily even by the measures of our time. Some benefited from a reduction of their punishment, like Semy and Lurie, thanks to his father who obtained for him a less severe regime in prison. There was also public opinion which leaned towards indulgence. Aptichmann tells us that in 1881, after the assassination of Alexander II, they lived relatively

freely in the prison in Krasnaya, where the director of the prison, a real wild beast, was suddenly tamed and gave us all kinds of permissions to contact the deportees and our friends. then we were well we were received in transition transit prisons not as detainees but as noble captives the prison director came in accompanied by soldiers carrying trays with tea biscuits jam for everyone and as a bonus a small glass of vodka was it not idyllic we were touched i've read over the years quite a bit of this movement's literature and the secondary literature that that goes along with the one thing that doesn't don't on on them is that these people are doing very well, especially compared to the West. You don't have, you know, you don't have surf conditions. You don't have, you had far more populists in the legitimate sense. Popular government, I mean, peasants in the commune, that was their government.

That was what they came across every day. Everyone had a voice. Yeah, that was socialist, although not in a materialistic way. They just figured, well, we can go and take that concept and as long as we make it, you know, secular and we control it, it'll be fine. And it just doesn't work that way. And pretty soon they're going to, they're going to just reject the whole thing and start from scratch. I think this is a natural stopping point, you know, start getting. I was just thinking that. Yeah, I think that's true.

All right. So we'll end it right here. As I always do, remind you to go to the show notes on any platform. They'll be there, and there'll be links where you can support Dr. Johnson's work. And maybe go to his page and reach out and thank him for this. And thank him also with a little donation or set up something monthly. and I'm sure he would appreciate it as we all do when we're trying to do or we're trying to do this as much as we can and as put out as much as much material as we could possibly can do you agree I agree yes indeed yep all right

thank you very much dr. Johnson and I will see you in a couple days on Wednesday bye-bye I want to welcome everyone back to part 22 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Jay, how are you doing today? You know, I've been listening to a lot of craft work recently, and I don't have really an explanation for it, but I was wondering why anyone would go see them live. They're on tour, believe it or not. There are four guys on a stage behind desks. They don't move. You don't know what they're doing. They don't interact with each other or the audience. The song sounds just like the album. Why would anyone pay money to go and see that? So, how are you doing? Doing good. I'm wondering

if, um, is just to be in the, some people just want to be in the presence of greatness. Yeah, maybe that's it. Because yeah, I mean, I've been to probably hundreds of concerts in my lifetime and yeah if they were just standing there no one thought that that was a good show if they were you know if people if they were just gazing down at their shoes yeah

yeah well they have a desk four of them in a row and there's a desk that glows and they're doing something and that's it for an hour and a half well selling out place I don't know. I don't understand. I don't have no problem with them. I mean, they're, but, you know, it's, I don't know why you would spend money for that. I don't know what you're spending money on. Big problem in my mind right now.

Well, then let us make the, uh, the next hour that people are with us, uh, more entertaining than that. I will, I will, uh, it will make me feel better. All right. Here we go. Pick it up from where we left off last time. The biographies of these early populists reveal a certain exultation, a certain lack of mental equilibrium. Leo Deutsch testifies, Leon Zlatpulski, a terrorist, was not a mentally balanced person. Aptachman himself, in his cell after his arrest, was not far from madness as his nerves were shaken. Betty Kemenkaya, from the second month of detention, lost her mind. She was transferred to the hospital.

Then her father, a merchant, took her back on bail. Having read in the indictment that she would not be brought before the court, she wanted to tell the prosecutor that she was in good health and could appear, but soon after she swallowed poison and died. Moses Rabinovich, in his cell, had hallucinations. His nerves were exhausted. He resolved to feign repentance to name those whom the instruction was surely already acquainted with in order to be liberated.

He drew up a declaration promising to say everything he knew and even upon his release from prison to seek and transmit information. The result was that he confessed everything without being released and that he was sent to the province of Urquitzk, where he went mad and died barely over the age of 20. Examples of this kind are not lacking. Lyser-Sukerman emigrated to New York and put an end to his life. Nam and Lohenthal, after having immigrated to Britain, was sent into the dizzying downward spiral of a nervous breakdown to which he added an unhappy love.

He swallowed sulfuric acid and threw himself into the river at the age of about 19. These young individuals had thrown themselves away by overestimating their strength and the resistance of their nerves. These were the people who were going to liberate Russia or so they say. This was the mentality. The terrorist movement was so Jewish.

And even at the time, it was known as an ethnic movement. This is why there was so much anger. Now it makes me smile that they off themselves that way. But it also gets me angry that the empire was forced to slowly but surely

create some kind of a rudimentary prison system for these people. But, but, you know, Jews themselves will admit to you that they have a thing, that they are, they are on balance, far more so than any other ethnic group. So forcing the empire to do this, you know, Jews have a lot to answer for. They're never going. You're never going to. no one's ever going to force them to, but the nature of the Jewish revolutionary movement, which really was the revolutionary movement,

especially its most extreme examples. And then, of course, the terror of especially the first half of the Soviet Union. People have a lot to answer for. And it turns out that these not only are from the upper class and, of course, Jewish, but clearly, mentally unbalanced. I mean, I suppose to be. a terrorist, you kind of have to be a little out of it, especially in a society that wasn't

harming you. Think of the mentality here. They weren't being harmed. In fact, they were being, they had privileges that no one else had. So terrorism? It was just this burning contempt for orthodoxy, the monarchy, the concept of Rome, and the Goyim. That's really what this comes down to. And it's, it's, it's absurd that Jews do things that no other group would do under these circumstances. And even Gregory Goldenberg, who in cold blood, had defeated the governor of Karkov and asked his comrades as a supreme honor to kill by his own hand the czar, but his comrades feeling popular anger had apparently dismissed him as a Jew. Apparently, this argument often prompted populace to designate most often Russians to perpetuate attacks.

After being arrested while carrying a charge of dynamite, he was seized by unbearable anguish in his cell of the Trubetskoy Battalion. His spirit was broken. He made a full confession that affected the whole movement, petitioned that Aaron Zendulovich could come share his cell, who showed more indulgence than others toward his actions. When it was refused, he committed suicide. Let's repeat this here. Because the terrorist groups were so Jewish, they realized, especially for high-profile attacks, you couldn't have Jews doing every one.

So they had to go search for the nearest Gentile to do it, so there isn't this popular anger against them. That's how Jewish these movements were. Others who were not directly involved suffered, such as Moses Edelstein, who was by no means an ideologist who had slipped, for a price, clandestine literature. He suffered much in prison, prayed to Yahweh for himself and his family. He repented during the judgment, I did not imagine that there could be such bad books. Or S. Aronson, who, after the trial of the 193, disappeared completely from the revolutionary scene.

another point is worthy of noting it was the facility with which many of them left that Russia which had long ago intended to save in fact in the 70s emigration was regarded as desertion in revolutionary circles even if the police seek you go underground but do not run away tan bogoros left to live 20 years in new york lazar goldenberg goitrotitman also left to New York in 1885, where he gave classes on the history of the revolutionary movement in Russia. He returned to Russia in 1906 after the amnesty to leave again rather quickly to Britain, where he remained until his death. In London, one of the Vayner brothers became the owner of a furniture workshop, and Mr. Aronson and Mr. Ram became clinical doctors in New York. After a few years in Switzerland, I Goetzov went to live in America, having radically broken with a

Socialist Movement. Lyser Lowenthal emigrated to Switzerland, completed his medical studies in Geneva, became the assistant of a great psychologist before obtaining a chair of histology in La Seine. Semyon Lurie also finished his studies in the Faculty of Medicine in Italy, but died shortly after. Leubov Axelrod remained for a long time in immigration where he received a degree of Doctor of Philosophy from the University of Berlin. Later, he inculcated dialectical materialism to students of Soviet graduate schools. A. Katinsky also entered the faculty of medicine of Byrne, but died the following year from a galloping consumption. Gregory Gory Goryov made a fine career in Denmark. He returned to Russia as the country's ambassador in Kiev, where he stayed until

1918. You imagine being a member of a group so privileged that you can commit terrorist acts in one country, immigrate to another with ease, no problems with money or anything else, and be treated like this. No one got arrested. No one got in trouble. There were, you know, Trotsky, no problem. Went to, went to Brooklyn, raised all kinds of money, bought a few hundred Jews back.

you know, they had no problem these are terrorists, these are people who were known for never underestimate the role that especially Britain played in the revolutionary not just in terms of funding I mean going back even to this era 1870s and 80s training

given asylum supporting even giving money to terrorist killers who would escape there. And the U.S. was the same way. It's no different than the Black Panthers and the terrorists of the American late 60s who are still professors at American universities.

Angela Davis, who is not an academic, is it somehow a professor at UCLA. And she killed people. She killed. She was part of a plot to kill a judge. And he was killed. Most people haven't even heard of it. this and she is

worshipped she's not a PhD in philosophy I've read her stuff she has no academic understanding whatsoever but it doesn't matter so it's not just you know the the privilege of the left the Jews and their allies but how they're

treated they're treated as as sick as they are as mentally unbalanced as they are back then and now they're treated as heroes and so it's not merely a Jewish thing though mostly. People like Angela Davis, so many of the Black Panthers, are venerated. They're making hundreds of thousands a year teaching. Can you imagine them teaching anybody?

That's the privilege. That's how leftist the system is. And that the Jews want for no matter what's going on, they want for nothing. Teaching at American University. I don't, you know, and because the British were so pro-revolutionary, the American press was just for, repeating what they were told. And to this day, all these myths and stories about how heroic these people are, are still circulating. All this also shows how many talented men there were among these revolutionaries. Men such as these endowed with such lively intelligence, when they found themselves in Siberia, far from wasting or losing their reason, they opened their eyes to the tribes which surrounded them, studied their language and their customs, and wrote ethnically. studies about them. Leon Sternberg on the Gileaks, Tan Bogoros on the Chuchas, I want to say Chuchis,

Vladimir Yockelsen on the Yuccagirs, and Norm Guker on the physical type of the Lakuts. Some studies on the Buriats are due to Moses Kroll. Some of these Jewish revolutionaries willingly join the socialist movement in the West, Thus, V. Jockelsen and A. Zundelovich during the Reichstag elections in Germany campaigned on the side of the Social Democrats. Zendelovich was even arrested for having used fraudulent methods. Anne Rosenstein in France was convicted for organizing a street demonstration in defiance of the regulations governing traffic on the street. Turgenev intervened for her and she was expelled to Italy where she, was twice condemned for anarchist agitation. She later married Afturite, converted him to socialism,

and became herself the first Marxist of Italy. Abram Valt-Lessin, a native of Minsk, published articles for 17 years in New York in the socialist organ of America Vorworts and exerted a great influence on the formation of the American labor movement. The road was going to be taken by many others of our socialists. that road. You know, these people were killers.

They were terrorists. It was so easy for them to leave the country. Where is all this money coming from? These guys are supposed to be

in a Siberian prison of some kind. You know, it takes money to do ethnographic studies. You can't just, you know,

right in the snow. With campaigning? And fraudulently so? it's an obnoxious group of people here they're obnoxious because of their mental

unbalanced but because they really believe that they're the mouthpiece for history history is coming to an end we've uncovered her secrets that's where their arrogance comes from nothing ever happens to these people

killers you know and there was no all over Europe and all they did was act just as obnoxiously wherever they went as they were in Russia. But, you know, these people should have been immediately arrested and condemned for murder, or at least sent back to Russia.

No way. And I think part of it is Jewish power. The other part of it is Jewish power over the press. Because a lot of this was not being reported or if it was, it was justified. It sometimes happened that revolutionary immigrants were disappointed by the revolution. Thus, Moses Veller, having distanced in a moment, himself from the movement, succeeded thanks to Turganov's intervention with Loris Melikoff to return to Russia.

More extravagant was the journey of Isaac Pavlovsky, living in Paris as illustrious revolutionary. He had connections with Turganov, who made him know Emil Zola and Alphonse Daudet. He wrote a novel about the Russian nihilist that Turgenev published in the Vestner Evropi, the messenger of Europe, and then he became the correspondent in Paris of Novoyevremia, the New Times, under the pseudonym Ayakovlev, and even as Deutsche rites, he portrayed himself as anti-Semite, sent a petition in high places, was pardoned, and returned to Russia. That said, the majority of the Jewish revolutionaries blended in, just like the Russians,

and their track was lost. With the exception of two or three prominent figures, all of my other compatriots were minor players, writes Deutsch. A Soviet collection published the day after the Revolution under the title of historical and revolutionary collection quotes many names of humble soldiers unknown to the revolution. We find there are dozens, even hundreds of Jewish names. Who remembers them now? However, all have taken action. All have brought their contribution. all have shaken more or less strongly the edifice of the state.

Let us add, this very contingent of Jewish revolutionaries did not fully join the ranks of the Russian Revolution. All did not deny their Judaism. A. Lieberman, a great connoisseur of the Talmud, a little older than his populist fellow students, proposed in 1875 to carry out a specific campaign in favor of socialism among the Jewish population. With the help of G. Gerevich, he published a socialist magazine in Yiddish called M.S. Pravda in Vienna in 1877. Shortly before, in the 70s, A. Zendelovich undertook a publication in the Hebrew language, also entitled Truth. El Shapiro hypothesizes that this publication was the distant ancestor of Trotsky's the Pravda. The tradition of this appellation was durable. Some, like Vault Lassine, insisted on the convergence of internationalism with Judaic nationalism. In his improvised conferences and sermons, the prophet Isaiah and Karl Marx figured as authorities of equal importance. In Geneva was found the Jewish free typography intended to print leaflets addressed to

the Jewish working class population. I think most of us would agree that the overwhelming majority of Jews either don't believe in God or some kind of a deist or something like that. That's not a contradiction. I always see Judaism as an ethnic group and really a revolutionary movement, this alien force. And even amongst the so-called Hasidic, God doesn't have the same meaning as it does for normal people. So there certainly is no problem. There's no contradiction with being a so-called Orthodox Jew. and being an atheist and materialist revolutionary. It's just that this ritualism, you know, is more about organizing and creating cohesion than anything else.

And we hear here for the very first time the concept that Jewish nationalism on the one hand and internationalism on the other are not only not contradictory, but it makes a lot of sense. That's been the Jewish survival strategy from day one. internationalism, meaning breaking down the different ethnic groups, nations, and states, while at the same time promoting and fanatically being a part of this very cohesive Jewish nation. That's been, you know, that's been the central, you know, if you could summarize Jewish political work, it would probably be that. You might as well mention Moses Hess here too.

It's all the same kind of movement. These aren't contradictory. Judaism is far less a religion than it is political agitation, ethnicity, with all this other stuff being purely symbolic. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The so-called mystic Kabbalah found its greatest expression in some form of socialism, if not Marxism, than anarchism or something else. There is no problem here.

There's no contradiction here. And I think that's what he's getting out with this paragraph. Specifically, Jewish circles were formed in some cities. A statute for the organization of a social revolutionary union of the Jews of Russia, formulated at the beginning of 1876, showed the need for propaganda in the Hebrew language, and even to organize between Jews of the Western region, a network of social revolutionary sections, federated with each other and with other sections of the same type found abroad.

The socialists of the whole world formed a single brotherhood, and this organization was to be called the Jewish section of the Russian Social Revolutionary Party. Heson comments, The action of this union among the Jewish masses has not met with sufficient sympathies, and that is why these Jewish socialists, in their majority, lent a hand to the common cause, that is to say to the Russian cause. In fact, circles were created in Vilnius, Grosnome, Minsk, Divinsk, Odessa, blah, blah,

Rostov-Andan, down the line. In the very detailed founding act of this social revolutionary union of all Jews in Russia, one can read surprising ideas statements such as nothing ordinary has the right to exist if it has no rational justification. By the end, go ahead. No, no, it's fine. Go ahead. That statement is bizarre beyond belief. Yeah, wow. That's one of many.

By the end of the 70s, the Russian revolutionary movement was already sliding toward terrorism. The appeal to the revolt of Bakunin had definitely prevailed over the concern for instruction of the masses of Lavrov. Beginning in 1879, the idea of populist presence among the peasants had no effect. The idea that dominated in the will of the people gained the upper hand over a rejection of terror by the black repartition. Terror, nothing but terror, much more a systematic terror, that the people did not have a voice in the matter that the ranks of the intelligentsia were so sparse did not disturb them. Terrorist acts, including against the Tsar in person, thus succeeded one another. terrorism seems in this particular case it seems to be almost an outlet

for this Jewish hatred for a country that frankly had been very nice to them these are again upper class people who would travel the world with no problem no want of money it's almost you know releasing a pressure cooker just a little bit or the small door

and the dam kind of thing it's to spread the idea that the state can't protect you to create chaos and a fearful population is very suggestible by the time and within another couple of decades government officials were being murdered on a regular base and of course government if any of these were these were minor bureaucrats ordinary people and this was almost exclusively Jewish but they would find the occasional gentile criminal and hand them a pistol just so they all can't get back to them they had no support

no one liked them certainly amongst the the peasantry at the time people knew uh it was jewish the going to the people thing is such a joke and um and it really goes back you know by the revolutionaries hatred i mean jews despise agriculture and certainly the the christian peasantry and that's why they were liquidated almost right away. Gentiles aren't people. They're cattle. And there's no problem in killing them. But even here, other than their own contempt, there is no justification for this. If the Jews didn't exist in Russia, none of this would be happening.

According to Leo Deutsch's assessment, only 10 to 12 Jews took part in the growing terror, beginning with Aaron Gopst executed, Solomon Wittenberg, prepared an attack on Alexandria the 2nd in 1878, executed in 1879. Isaac Aaronchick was involved in the explosion of the imperial train condemned to a penal colony for life, and Gregory Goldenberg already named. Like Goldenberg, a Zendelovich, a brilliant organizer of terror, but who was not given the time to participate in the assassination of the czar, was arrested very early. There were also another quite active, there was also another quite active terrorist, Mladutski. As for Rosa Grossman, Christina Grinberg, and the brothers Leo and Savelli Slopholzki,

they played a secondary role. In fact, Saveli, as of March the 1st, 1881, was a member of the executive committee. As for Gessia Gelfman, she was part of the basic group of the actors of March 1st. there are many books in English on the revolutionary movement and none of them are allowed to mention any of this you have a a almost exclusively Jewish movement you're writing a book on it and you can't talk about the fact that it's a almost exclusively Jewish movement that means a book has got to be nonsense from

from start to finish you know it's like writing a book on Tibet without ever mentioning Buddhism you know it's it shows you how useless And I don't believe, especially younger professors, I don't think they have any clue. How would they ever come across this stuff? Everything in their world is censored and sanitized. Everything from Google to their own libraries. You know, coming across something like this,

it would have to be absolutely accidental. And I know, because I read most of these books, even when they do mention that it's somewhat of a Jewish movement, they justify it. that because Russia were demonically anti-Semitic for no reason, and the pogroms occurred for no reason, this is a special pleading that people are forced into. And I think you could see why there's no way I could function any longer in the academic environment. Before I read the next sentence, can you, I know you did it on the last episode, but for people who may have skipped it,

give a definition of what would be described populism at this time in Russia? Oh, normally populism, the way it's used today is somewhat of a right-wing phenomenon. Willis Cardo's political party was the populist party. You know, rejecting the elite, especially the Jewish elite, the people who go to Bilderberg meetings that I call the regime. That's not the case here. And it confuses a lot of people. calling it populist. I don't know if it's deliberate or just, you know, using the same name. It has nothing to do with being popular or the population. Just because these people said they were speaking for some abstraction called the people, which they were not, and they were aware that they were not. They were called populace. What these people were was the very opposite of how we normally use a term. And it's a shame that they get called that.

The closest they could come to any sense of normal populism is that they said in their circulars and pamphlets that they were speaking for, the Russian people. And they knew as they're writing this, it's a lot. Then it was the 80s that saw the decline in dissolution of populism. Government power took over, belonging to a revolutionary organization, cost a firm eight to ten years of imprisonment. But if the revolutionary movement was caught by inertia, its members continued to examine. exist. One can quote here Sophia Ginsburg. She did not engage in revolutionary action until 1877. She tried to restore the will of the people, which had been decimated by arrests. She prepared just after the Yulinov group an attack on Alexander III. So and so was forgotten

in deportation. Another was coming back from it. A third was only leaving for it, but they continue the battle. Before I forget, I want to mention, you know, one of the great monarchist and Orthodox writers of this or slightly after this was Ticumidov. Ticumidov is one of the few Gentile members of this organization and it didn't take him long to realize what this really was

and not only did he abandon him but he exposed it and everything that Shultzhenitsyn, I think he may even be cited here, everything Shultzhen is saying here he said is absolutely true. You know, many generations earlier, he became a monocuses. There was a whole bunch of guys like this, and that it was exclusively Jewish.

He was one of the very few. And everything that we're saying, everything that Zolzhenitson says, he commits, and he was on the inside. And he's still a very famous right wing, at least among orthodox and royalist circles in Russia and in the West. Thusly was a famous deflagration described by the memorialists, the rebellion in the prison of Yakutsk in 1889. An important contingent of political prisoners had been told that they were going to be transferred to Verkoyansk and from there, even further, to Shredni Kolmisk, which they wanted to avoid at all costs. The majority of the group were Jewish inmates. In addition, they were informed that the amount of baggage allowed was reduced. Instead of five poods of books, clothes, linens, five poods, also of bread and flour, two poods of meat plus oil, sugar and tea, the whole, of course, loaded on horse or reindeer, a reduction of five poods in all.

The deportees decided to resist. In fact, it had already been six months that they had been walking freely in the city of Yakutsk, and some had obtained weapons from the inhabitants. while you're at it might as well perish like this and may the people discover all the abomination of the Russian government perishing so that the spirit of combat is revived among the living when they were picked up to be taken to the police station they first opened fire on the officers and the soldiers answered with a salvo condemned to death together with N. Zotov

were those who fired the first shots of the vice governor El Kogan Bernstein and A. Gossmann. Condemned to force labor in perpetuity, the memorialist himself O. Minor, the celebrated M. Gautz, and also A. Gurevich, and M. Urloff, Mr. Bromsen, Mr. Fondaminsky, Mr. Uffland, S. Routin, S. O. Estrovich, Sophia Gurevich, on and on and on. The Jewish Encyclopedia informs us that, for this mutiny, 26 Jews and six Russian were tried. So now there's no question. We come across anyone who denies this.

We simply can show them. There is no question. There is no debate. There is no discussion. Revolutionary terrorism in the old Russian Empire was almost exclusively Jewish. You go to prison in Germany for saying that, probably a longer term than you would in Britain or elsewhere. And there's a reason for it.

You know, when the Soviets liberated, quote-unquote the camps after World War II and then stuck Germans back in there they had to create this horrible story and it wasn't just you know how I call whatever whatever it was called at the time they had to create this and exaggerate it wildly not only to cover up

Jewish crimes that were going on at the moment but going all the way back to the 1880s the Holocaust became something that was meant to override all of this stuff. It became the central event

of the last 200 years, the very definition of what it is to be Jewish and part of the purpose early on was to avoid having to talk about this kind of thing. Peasants, people hated Jews. They didn't hate them 100 years earlier, but they began

to hate them now. all just for their own contempt they they you know again they were treated very well these are upper class people you could see by all their travel and education there was nothing to make war on Russia was very good to them and Russia economically at the time was growing

extremely rapidly the lowest tax rate they had no debt no inflation and we could go on and on lowest cost of living best paid industrial labor the factory acts that we mentioned before and their response was to destroy it

because this was the bull war of the Orthodox monarchy or of monarchy in general in the entire world especially in the European and in the Christian world that's why it had to be destroyed it was almost like they simply couldn't handle the fact that you had a popular

and successful, royalist Christian government that they had to live with it. This contempt, this hatred of the people around them, like the Jewish Soviets later on, killing often for the sake of killing, it goes, that is the best I can do to explain it because they had no obvious reason to do any of this. Again, no Jews, no terrorism in the Russian Empire. that same year 1889 mark natanson returned from exile and undertook to forge in place of the old dismantled populist organizations a new organization called the right of the people natanson had already witnessed the emergence of marxism in russia imported from europe and its competition with populism he made every effort to save the revolutionary movement from decadence and to maintain ties with the liberals the best liberals are also

semi-socialists. That's quoting. Not more than before did he look at nuances of convictions. What mattered to him was that all should unite to overthrow the autocracy, and when Russia was democratic, then it would be figured out. But the organization he set up this time proved to be amorphous, apathetic, and ephemeral. Besides, respecting the rules of the conspiracy was no longer necessary. As Isaac Gourvich, very eloquently pointed out, because of the absence of conspiracy, a mass of people fall into the clutches of the police, but the revolutionaries are now so numerous that these losses do not count. Trees are knocked down and chips go flying. As I've said in the past, my very first book, I wrote when I was in, I was 30, 29, Russia at this

time was very democratic, in the normal sense of the term. the basic units of government that affected everybody the Artel the commune the county government the Zemstva these were

not only democratic but they often functioned through unanimous decision of course there were jury trials and the monarchy although hereditary at this point was extremely popular and especially Alexander III

was an actual populist which is why they needed him killed, which is why they needed Alexander the 2nd killed. So when they used the word democratic, and this was the beginning of the alteration of this term, you know, when the left uses Democratic today, they just mean people who support globalism.

It has nothing to do with people who are elected. If they're just the wrong person, they'll just cancel the election, like in Romania. Democratic People's Republic, clearly they're not using it in the same way either democratic or people always be very careful when a group refers to this abstract people there is no such thing as an abstract people there is a nation or jews or russians or serbs but the people like in the u.s means absolutely nothing it's a complete abstraction uh Mao when i read Mao for the first time many many years ago

he uses the word people all the time but he slaughtered 34 40 million of them, clearly they weren't the people. So when these people use that term, they're referring to the revolutionary movement and those who sympathize with them. That's the people. The fracture that had occurred in the Jewish consciousness after 1881, 1882 could not but be reflected somewhat in the consciousness of the Jewish revolutionaries in Russia. These young men had begun by drifting away from Judaism, and many had returned to it. They had left the street of the Jews and then returned to their people. Our entire historical destiny is linked to the Jewish ghetto. It is from it that our national essence is forged.

Until the pogroms of 1881 to 1882, absolutely none of us revolutionaries thought for a moment that we should publicly explain the participation of the Jews in the revolutionary movement. But then came the pogroms, which caused among the majority of our countrymen an explosion of indignation. And now it was not only the cultivated Jews, but some Jewish revolutionaries who had no affinity with their nation, who suddenly felt obliged to devote their strength and talents

to their unjustly persecuted brothers. The pogroms have awakened sleeping feelings. They have made young people more susceptible to the sufferings of their people and the people more receptive to revolutionary ideas. Let this serve as a basis for an autonomous action of the Jewish mass. We are obstinately pursuing our goal, the destruction of the current political regime.

Now, if you could figure the logic there, you probably are unbalanced yourself. Everything that they're saying here, and the same crap is being repeated in every history classroom in universities across the world. They actually don't understand why people don't like them. everything we've been reading about they have no clue it's way beyond this this this narcissism

it's extremely malevolent and malignant it is it is literally demonic now we've talked about the pogroms already very few Jews were killed Jews usually were the ones who started it

the possible procession I forget what year this was in Odessa that was attacked by Jews They did this all the time, heavily armed, all these young people. They created these pogroms, and mostly it was Russians who were killed by these very well-armed and weirdly trained Jews. So many of these people later on, a couple generations later were the ones who created the militias in Palestine since they had experience in this matter.

So the pogroms that they provoke that did not kill a lot of them. and if they were, it was purely retaliation, this is how they were going to build their revolutionary movement. And because the right at the time didn't have a press, you know, it was kind of like today, they're just, they weren't organized, the Union of the Russian people, which, by the way, was mostly Ukrainian organization. Because that's where, you know, many of the Jews were. This was a self-defense group, if anything else, who wanted them removed to, to Palisian.

fine, I guess, later on in their existence. But not only do they not have any idea why people would hate them, but they created in their minds, like the Holocaust, they created this pogrom idea and lied about it, lied through their teeth, which was taken immediately by the British press, and hence the American press,

and they weren't persecuted. And what the hell, even if that were true, what does it have to do with the state the state was the only entity that stopped it they had no interest in in unrest in these fairly wealthy parts of of the empire these were trading cities um so again the holocaust later took the same role as a pogroms there it is the essence of of what it is to be a jew which is why they can't take it when you even mention it except in in worshipful tones but this is the mentality here this meant mentality has to be explained, and I think Schulteneycin is trying to do it. We're trying to do it. And this is the kind of thing that you're, for a good reason from their point of view, not allowed to talk about. But behold, the unexpected support to the anti-Jewish pogroms brought by the leaflets of the will of the people, Leo Deutsch expresses his perplexity in a letter to Axelrod, who also wonders, the Jewish question is now, in practice, really insoluble for a revolution. What would one do, for example, in Balta, where the Jews are being attacked?

To defend them is tantamount to a rousing hatred against the revolutionaries who not only killed the Tsar, but also support the Jews. Reconciliation propaganda is now extremely difficult for the party. This perplexity, P. Lavrov himself, the venerated chief, expresses it in his turn. I recognize that the Jewish question is extremely complex, and for the party, which intends to draw itself closer to the people and raise it against the government, it is difficult in the highest degree. Because of the passionate state in which the people find themselves and the need to have it on our side, he was not the only one of the Russian revolutionaries to reason this way.

In the 80s, a current reappeared among the socialists, advocating directing attention and propaganda to specifically Jewish circles, and preferably the ones of workers. But as proletariat, there were not many people among the Jews. Some carpenters, binders, shoemakers, the easiest was certainly to act among the most educated printers. Isaac Gorvich recounts with Moses Gorgine, Leon Rogeler, Joseph Vresnik. In Minsk, we had set ourselves the task of creating a nucleus of educated workers. But if we take, for example, Belotsk or Grodna, we found no working class.

the recruitment was too weak I probably don't have to say this but just in case we have some like newcomers here the Jewish elite these fairly wealthy Jewish men didn't give a damn about Gentile workers they had no interest in them

they were vaguely aware that they were going to create a system where they would be worked to death which is exactly what the Soviets did but they figure the mentality was you know Karl Marx defined a proletarian as someone

who was no longer in their village having moved to the city to find work and was working in a factory and thus was severed from the

tradition of the countryside you know religion and the family and everything else sometimes young men were there alone just to find work even more specifically

a proletariat didn't own anything. The formal definition is a someone in an urban factory that owned nothing and therefore the only thing he could offer is his body working somewhere. So the concept was these are the best people to go to. Not because they cared about their well-being, but because they might be the most alienated part of the population. The, it's the nature of, of, of, uh, it's the nature of, urban industry industry in the russian empire was growing very very fast and um so you have a rush to the cities to find work people leaving the commune leaving which they knew that they couldn't

penetrate i mean leaving all that tradition uh all the vices that the jews themselves created you know the taverns the prostitution everything else the brutal work even though urban labor was the best treated in europe in russia it was still grueling um in many places. This is the group that we could propagandize. This is the group that we can turn. For the most part, it failed. But they figured the best chance of success

is precisely with this group of people. And I think Marx was very similar in that regard. It had nothing to do with their well-being. Jews didn't give a damn. They were often the factory owners. But because of their condition, actually what a proletarian is, is if there's one, and this is what capitalism does.

Karl Marx said this over and over again. Capitalism is a revolutionary movement because it forces these things. Karl Marx was clear that free trade was essential because he figures that free trade will break down differences among nations, leveling nations off, creating just this eternal, you know, urban proletariat everywhere that had no country, had no loyalty because of their condition and this is why and the only reason why they cared about the working class had nothing to do with you know um as the soviets prove as every socialist country proves um there was not only no improvement in their in their life they were work to death um right up

until the the 70s in in the Soviet Union they were somewhat aware of this um uh at the time but this is why suddenly now they think the proletarian as as Mark You know, I think at this point Marx had just died. That's why the proletarian was the target. And that's why we're talking about it here almost for the first time. Now, today, I guess really it was the 70s, the postmodern movement. The left doesn't care about labor. It used to be their symbol.

The Jewish communists would talk about workers. Again, they didn't care, but now they don't talk about them at all. In fact, they hold them in utter contempt. And we know that, for example, Donald Trump, the populist movement all over Europe, the working class is a huge part of it. Now, of course, they were always that way. But it's important to note that's the theory from Marxism on down, specifically the Jewish theory as to why the working class in the cities, proletariat in the formal definition of the term, was the target of Jewish propaganda. I'm looking forward, and I'm thinking that this is a place to stop and pick up at the next paragraph for the next episode. Yeah, we're getting into somewhat of a new topic, but we're starting to see, you know, the revolutionary movement was kind of all over the place.

You don't just have followers of Marx. You had a whole bunch of different kinds of socialism, a lot of the utopians that Marx hated and condemned. And the anarchist movement of Bakunin, I've mentioned this before, but Bakunin had condemned Karl Marx because he was being financed by the Rothschild. His movement was, everything he did came from this London banking elite. He was one of the first real hardcore leftists to point this out. This is why you shouldn't follow this guy. We know who he's working for.

He has all this money. He doesn't work. He has all this cash. He forms all these. groups and Bakunin said you can't you can't trust them anarchists generally didn't look to the proletariat sometimes they would but they were far more general in their approach anarchism is incoherent at least Marxism has its own logic such as it is but anarchism doesn't and anarchism that's an ideology you know I don't mean chaos but but that's that was the nature of the the targeting

And when you hear in my book, the Soviet experiment, which I recommend you buy from the Barns Review, actually, published it, that's really one of the the theses of the book, is that the working class, their well-being had zero to do, nothing with Soviet policy at any time. That's not what this movement was about. And the Jewish nature of it is one of the reasons why that was the case. all righty as always please check out the show notes on the episode and there are links there where you can support dr johnson's work so that he can keep uh keep the research up and keep bringing us all of this information which i think is enriching everyone from considering i get emails every day saying how much everybody's enjoying this and how much people more than enjoying it they almost feel like they need it and

they're getting an incredible education out of it. Most people are calling this a like a year long college course. Yeah, I've heard that before. Radio Albion as you all know is where essentially it's a series of lectures.

I've been told this for a long time on topics mostly on stuff like this. Radio Albion, the Orthodox Nationalist is the name of the of the series. It's been, it's been on since 2008 or something. And, and that's where, you know, to learn more, to hear me, and, and, you know, it's approach to, it sounds like any university lecture. That's the only way I know how to, you know, talk about these things. And, and that's where you go. And, of course, I'm allowed to do it because of, well, people like you personally, Peter, because you promote me and all the people who've donated and helped me over the years. So I can't thank you enough.

All right. Until, until Saturday. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. All right, my friend. Talk to you soon. I want to welcome everyone back to part 23 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I'm doing extremely well.

I got to tell you, last night I had, I was on two radio shows. Both, you know both of them. Dark Enlightenment and Jose Nino and they went extremely well talking about vaguely these general same topics and dark enlightenment has always been he's been a fan of mine

since the Voice of Reason days in the 2000s he's and I didn't know that so there were two amazing shows and I endorse especially Dark Enlightenment but I endorse both of those both of those outfits

all right i'll make sure yeah i'll i'll throw some of those links in the chat if i remember all right let's get going here picking up on page one forty five the creation of these circles was not done openly it was necessary to conspire either to organize the meeting outside the city or to hold it in a private apartment in the city but then systematically beginning with lessons of russian grammar or natural sciences and then only by recruiting volunteers to preach socialism to them. As I. Martar explains, it was these preliminary lessons that attracted people to the revolutionary circles. Skilled and wise, capable of becoming their own masters,

those who had attended our meetings had received instruction there, and especially mastery of Russian for language as a precious weapon in the competitive struggle of petty commerce and industry. After that, our lucky guys freed from the role of hired laborers and swearing to their great gods that they themselves would never employ hired labor had to have recourse to it due to requirements of the market or once formed in these circles the worker abandoned his trade and went away to take examinations externally well let's for people um to catch people up here uh we're talking about the development of early Bolshevism because now the left is targeting, the Jewish left, is targeting what

we define what a proletarian was last week. And this is almost a formalized education for some of them. The Jews themselves, many times not speaking Russian, and needed to learn it, but more importantly, the Russian proletariat, it looks like that they're being... taken away I mean to the extent it never worked at all and recruitment was always very bad but by not having to work anymore remember this was the upper class

of the Jewish population that was doing most of this work and they went after the proletariat in the cities because he was separated from his village and was perceived as vulnerable continuing the local Jewish bourgeoisie disliked the participation of young people in the revolutionary circles, for it had understood, faster and better than the police, where all of this would lead.

Here and there, however, things advanced with the aid of socialist pamphlets and proclamations provided by the printing press in London. The young revolutionaries themselves drafted social democrat formulations on all programmatic questions. Thus, for 10 years, a slow propaganda led little by little to the creation of the Bund. Well, the older Jews didn't like this, not because of the ideology, not even because of the violence, but because, you know, the Russian population then was almost a total opposite of your typical American today. They were healthy, and they would react vehemently to the realization that these Jews are killing people, well-off Jews are killing people. notice it's in London this is the beginning of

the anti-Russian not the anti-communist not the anti-revolutionary point of view in fact on my show I'm going to put together tonight the whatever there wasn't much anti-communism in the Cold War from the U.S.

but it certainly was anti-Russian communism was practically adopted in the U.S. but without the London printing press with the full knowledge of the authorities the revolutionary movement would have been in some serious trouble Russia was developing rapidly its standard of living was very high

she was you know eventually I don't know if it's right now or very shortly after this period they discovered oil the population was exploding London was terrified and especially their ultimate nightmare that probably kept the elites up at night was the alliance between Germany and Russia. That would be the end

of the British Empire. So financing the revolutionary movement from the very beginning practically, we're at the very start of this and connection with the Jews and the Rothschilds in London, this is where it begins. But even more than police,

persecution. It was the emerging immigration to America that hampered our work. In fact, we trained socialist workers for America. The concise recollections of Isaac Gervich on the first Jewish workers' circles are enameled by Obiter dicta such as Schwartz, a student who participated in revolutionary agitation, subsequently immigrated to America. He lives in New York, as well as in a meeting in Joseph Resnick's apartment. There were two workers present, a carpenter and a joiner. Both are now in America. And two pages later, we learned that Resnick himself, after his return from exile, went to live in America. Conversely, a young man named Gurchfeld, who came from America to do revolutionary work, is currently a doctor in Minneapolis and was a socialist candidate for the post of governor.

one of the most active members of the first of Abramovich circle, a certain Jacob Jvirin, after serving his 12 months in the Cresty prison, immigrated to America and now lives in New York. Schmulevich, Kievel, in 1889, was forced to flee from Russia. He lived until 1896 in Switzerland, where he was an active member in the Social Democratic Organizations. Then he moved to America and lives in Chicago. Finally, the narrator himself, in 1890, I myself left Russia, although a few years earlier

we were considering things differently. To lead a socialist propaganda among the workers is the obligation of every honest, educated man. It is our way of paying our historical debt to the people, and since I have the obligation to make propaganda, it follows very obviously that I have the right to demand that I be given the opportunity to fulfill this obligation. Arriving in New York in 1890, Gourvich found their

Russian Workers' Association of Self-Development, consisting almost exclusively of artisans from Minsk, and in order to celebrate the Russian New Year, they organized in New York, the ball of the Socialists of Minsk. In New York, the local socialist movement predominantly was Jewish. So the first wave of Jewish immigration,

we're in the 1880s. a chunk of it, a large chunk of it, came from revolutionary circles. This is why Trotsky had to come to the U.S. and bring some of these guys back for the Civil War and immigrated via Canada. Of course, they were well treated. They made a lot of money. Of course, they took over the media. They did very well in journalism and other things.

This was a place to go to make money in the 1880s. and so it was a revolutionary class that was leading this immigration and within just a couple of decades maybe a little bit more maybe by the 20s Jewish organized crime was

enormous they were the ones who introduced in the 20s the heroin trade they looked to blame the Italians it's not true the heroin trade a generation after that they built Las Vegas

and on the other side of that the left pornography the tavern culture that we've spoken out was just brought to was brought to the U.S. Now whether this was a strategic move

to the U.S. just to make money and then go back or was it really to stay that's a separate issue but Trotsky it was so large that Trotsky felt it necessary to come back to go to Brooklyn and take a few hundred back to war-torn Russia with him.

As we can see, from the time the ocean did not constitute a major obstacle to the cohesion and the pursuit of the revolutionary action carried out by the Jews. This living link would have so striking effects in Russia. Yet all Jewish young people had not abandoned the Russian revolutionary tradition far from it. many even stood there in the 80s and 90s. As D. Shubb shows, the pogroms and the restrictive measures of Alexander III only excited them even more strongly for combat. Then it became necessary to explain as well as possible to the little Russian people

why so many Jews participated in the revolutionary movement. Addressing uneducated people, the popular pamphlets gradually forged a whole phraseology that had its effects until 1917, including 1917. It is a booklet of this kind that allows us to reconstruct their arguments. Hard is the fate of the Russian, the subject of the Tsar. The government holds him in his iron fist, but still more bitter is the lot of the indigent Jew. The government makes fun of him, pressures him to death. His existence is only a life of famine, a long agony, and his brothers of mystery and toil. The peasants and the Russian workers, as long as long as,

long as they are in ignorance, treat him as a foreigner. There followed, one after the other, didactic questions. Are Jewish capitalists enemies of the working people of Russia? The enemies are all capitalists without distinction, and it is of little importance to the working people to be plundered by such and such. One should not concentrate their anger on those who are Jews. The Jew has no land. He has no means to prosper. If the Jews did not devote themselves to the labor of the land, it is because the Russian government has not allowed them to reside in the countryside. But in their colonies, they are excellent cultivators. The fields are superbly enhanced by the work of their arms.

They do not use any outside labor and do not practice any extra trade. They like the hard work of the land. Are destitute Jews harming the economic interests of Russian workers? If the Jews do business, is it out of necessity, not out of taste? all others are closed to them and one has to live, they would cease with joy to trade if they were allowed to leave their cage. And if there are thieves among them, we must accuse the Tsarist government. The Jewish workers began the struggle for the improvement of their conditions at a time when the Russian working people were subjected. The Jewish workers before all others have lost

patience. And even now, tens of thousands of Jews are members of Russian socialist parties. They spread the hatred of the capitalist system in the Tsarist government through the country. They have rendered a proud service to the Russian working people, and this is why Russian capitalists hate them. The government, through the police, assisted in the preparation of the pogroms. It sent the police in the army to lend the helping hands of the looters. Fortunately, very few workers and peasants were among them. Yes, the Jewish masses hate this irresponsible Tsarist government, because it was the will of the government that the skull of Jewish children must be smashed against the walls, that Jewish women, elderly and children alike,

be raped in the streets. And yet, he lies boldly the one who treats the Jews as enemies of the Russian people. And besides, how could they hate Russia? Could they have another country? Now, that was a brief reconstruction of the pamphlets. I've seen some of these. the PDFs online some of the real old ones the people who wrote them had to be aware that it wasn't true there is not a word or a phrase in here that's true you have to laugh

they weren't allowed to work the land they weren't allowed to after everything we've been through with all the money spent on trying to resettle them but when they were allowed they were great cultivators I mean, every single thing was a lie. And you can imagine my position personally, as a specialist in this area, hearing university professors, even those who may have been personal friends of mine, saying this kind of thing, lecturing, like they've just discovered something extraordinary in the textbooks and everything. Now, even some of them will say, okay, this is a bit of an exaggeration. but any

any leftist movement among the Gentiles was recruited in many cases by semi-literate proletarians who were promised a great job and oh my God how can we ever do this

to the Jews you know we all love Seinfeld right the same attitude came from this guy this was this was their campaign garbage the British government accepted it is true the American government

accepted it is true German is probably not but you know it depends on who you talk to but this is a list of slogans that was created at the time every syllable a lie

we've already we've been reading about why these are all lies for the last however long it's been and I refuse to believe that these guys didn't know they were lying

they had to they figure well they're going and their cattle they'll believe anything, so long as we go, like Jerry Seinfeld with a big smile and flatter

them, but this was informing British and American policy because Jews, not just Marxists, but Jews were saying this all over the place, and now this bunch is immigrating to the United States.

And I assume England, too, for at least for a while. This is the foundation of the early Marxist movement. Totally Jewish in Russia. And this was a garbage that they were telling people. So you tell me about followers of the left, you know, communist workers in the factory. If any existed, it was from this garbage.

And it's just a, it's a depressing reality that this is still being taught in some places. So many of the troops that we hear nowadays are in here, like Jews weren't allowed to own land or work the land. I mean, you almost, you almost see, oh, they were forced into, finance, you know, the people hated them, the governments hated them so much that they wouldn't allow them to have regular jobs, but they'll let them take care of their money. It's just ridiculousness that persists to the state. Yeah, these are the tropes. This is a list of tropes that the ADL and your typical university professor are still,

is still spouting, and it came from this movement. There are amazing resurgences in the revolutionary tradition. 1876, A. Birbegall had been convicted of taking part in the demonstration on the square in front of Our Lady of Cazan, and it was there that his eldest daughter, a student of graduate studies of St. Petersburg, was apprehended on the spot in Cazan on the anniversary of their demonstration 25 years later in 2001. In 1908, member of a group SR, she was condemned to the penal colonies for the attack on the Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich. In fact, over the years, Russian revolutionaries increasingly needed the input of the Jews.

They understood more and more what advantage they derive from them, of their dual struggle against the vexations on the plane of nationality and against those of an economic order as a detonator for the revolution. In 1883 in Geneva, appears what can be considered as the head of the emerging social democracy, the liberation of a labor group. Its founders were, along with Plekinov and Vera Zazulich, L. Deutsch, and P. Axelrod, when Ignatsov died in 1885, he was replaced by Engerman. In Russia comes to life a current that supports them. constituted of former members of the dismantled black repartition, they considerably exceeded those of the will of the people. They will be called liberationists. Among them are a number of

young Jews, among whom we can name the two best known, Israel Goldfond, the future and famous Parvos, and Rafael Soloveitchik. In 1889, Soloveitchik, who had traveled through Russia to set up revolutionary actions in several cities was arrested and tried with other members of the liberation of labor group, which included several Jewish names. Others who belonged to this social revolutionary trend were David Golden Dock, the future well-known Bolshevik Riazanov, who had fled Odessa in 1889 and had taken refuge aboard the escape military service, to escape military service. Remember, we're in the era of Alexander III.

he was able to blunt the force of a lot of these groups given the nature of Russian law enforcement the size of the empire communication, the roads, everything, the weather that wasn't an easy trickle though this is mostly an urban movement so there was some enforcement there we could see right now so they were somewhat dormant

somewhat It will explode later after Alexander's untimely death because he died young, unfortunately. But we see almost exclusively Jewish. You have the Gentiles in like the positivist movement, the scientific materialists types and basic liberals. A lot of them, you know, looking to the West, a lot of them with investments over in Western Europe,

they saw Russia as backward they accepted the Western conception of the linear history leading to the British style parliament and capitalism as the ultimate development of a people Jews had gone They were always part of that too

but Jews had gone much farther left than that terrorist groups the most extreme terrorist groups who very soon are going to explode after the death of Alexander III and they're going to end up killing a lot of people. And you notice that was Jewish

and this was just coming into their own, but Alexander III. And again, this was a great time for Russian workers as well as peasants. And the development, there was a tremendous optimism in the country. But you notice,

I think we talked about this already, but the Lady of Kazain demonstration, which was a way of mocking the church now in public, in Russia at that time. So it's not like that didn't warn people what they were going to do with the church when they took over. Well, they rarely talked about that in public. But I think we'll get to that at some point here.

Death of Alexander III is going to be a radical turning point for this. So as of right now, they're under somewhat control, but any control, even basic law enforcement against these Jewish revolutionaries was considered anti-Semitic and it just galvanized them to further action, because how dare you? Nevertheless, what remained did the will of the people after its collapse was a fairly large group. Among them were, it's a list of 11 Jewish names here

that I'm not going to read. Yes, thank you. Thus, a certain amount of energy had been preserved to fuel the rivalries between small groups. The will of the people, the black repartition, liberation of labor, and theoretical debates. The three volumes of the historical and revolution

collection published in the 20s in Soviet Union, which we use here, offer us in an interminable and tedious legoria, an account of the cut and thrust allegedly much more important and sublime than all the questions of universal thought and history. The detail of these debates constitute a deadly material on the spiritual fabric of the Russian revolutionaries of the years 80 through 90, and it still awaits its historian. But from the 30s of the Soviet era onward, it was no longer possible to enumerate with pride and detail all those who had their share in the revolution. A sort of taboo settled in historical and political publications. The role and the name of the Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement ceased to be evoked.

And even now, this kind of evocation creates uneasiness. Now, nothing is more immoral and dangerous to silence anything when history is being written. It only creates a distortion of opposite meaning. If this can be read in the Jewish Encyclopedia, quoting, to account for the genuine importance of the Jewish component in the Russian Liberation Movement to express it in precise figures does not seem possible, one can nevertheless, based on various sources, give an approximate picture.

Heston informs us that of the 376 defendants accused of crimes against the state in the first half of 18, 179, there were only 4% Jews, and out of 1,054 persons tried before the Senate during the year 1880, there were 6.5% of Jews. Similar estimates are found among other authors. Well, this is important to note what he's been saying here. As far as the Soviets are concerned, it's claimed that Stalin was some sort of an anti-Semite. it's actually a very popular opinion not just in the U.S. but in Russia today and it simply isn't true but picture yourself like an American historian

trying to figure this out Stalin purges the old Bolsheviks the revolutionary era they were really only good for the revolutionary era same thing goes those are as military commanders they were civil war commanders they weren't for a full army So, but you notice that these purges of the old Bolsheviks, there's a huge number of Jews.

So either, he only has, he only has two choices. Either you say that Bolshevism was Jewish in that era, or you have to say that Stalin was an anti-Semite. And obviously, they're going to pick, they're going to pick the latter. And that's the source of that, of that myth. and as far as crimes against the state, well, that's a huge number of people. That would include a lot of things that might necessarily not have a political component to it.

I also think Jews had a far superior system. We've actually touched on this before to hide them, get them out of the country. I mean, there were smugglers. So this percentage is still far greater than their percentage in the population. but I don't want to read too much into this as time goes on

of course that number is going to increase but we'll just leave that here for now but there's a lot of reasons why it's fairly low that terrorist actions remember this could be liberals this could be anybody this could be right wingers crimes against the state

that's a whole list of crimes and so let's and then he's going to explain this is going to go way up but you'll hear Jews mention these statistics saying what liars we are about the Jewish concept of the Jews ran the revolutionary movement. But there were many different forms of the revolutionary movement. However, from decade to decade, the number of Jews participating in the revolutionary movement

increases. Their role becomes more influential, more recognized. In the early years, the Soviet rule, when it was still a matter of pride, a prominent communist Lory Lorraine said, in Zaris prisons and in exile, Jews usually constituted nearly a quarter of all prisoners in exiles. Marxist historian M.N. Pukrovsky, basing himself on the workforce on the various congresses, concludes that, quote, the Jews represent between a quarter and a third of the organizations of all the revolutionary parties. The modern Jewish Encyclopedia has some reservations about this estimate.

In 1903, in a meeting with Herzl, Witte endeavored to show that, while representing only 5% of the population of Russia, 6 million out of 136 million, the Jews had in their midst no less than 50% of revolutionaries. Let me point something out. You saw the estimated population of the Jews in Russia was 6 million. This is why in the Western press for the first time, I know I've said this before, but the 6th, million figure starts to appear. It was based on this population estimate. I think there's other numerical reasons for it,

but this is the initial six million figure where it came from. Now, as the Soviet Union developed, and let's say in the early 30s, what he was trying to say before, there was a very good reason

not to stress the Jewish nature of the old Bolsheviks. especially when national socialism was developing various right-way and nationalist parties in Europe. Stalin didn't exactly want to put that out front. It was a matter of pride in maybe the early 20s, but not in the 30s. Oh, and Hurtzl, that's Theodore Hurtzl, one of the founders of Zionism. General N. Satukin, commander-in-chief of the Siberian region compiled statistics on January 1st, 1905, a political prisoner is under surveillance for all of Siberia and by nationality. This resulted in 1,898 Russians, 42%, 1,678 Jews, 37%, 624 polls, 14%, 167 Caucasians, 85 Baltic, and 95 Baltic, and 95,000.

other nationalities. Only the exiles are counted there. Prisons and penal colony convicts are not taken into account, and the figures are only valid for the year 1904, but this, however, gives a certain overview. There is, moreover, an interesting precision in connection with those who went into hiding. 17% of Russians, 64% of Jews, 19% of other nationalities. It's what I meant before. I think Jews were far better off in that department. I mean, the Cahal wasn't there anymore, but they were very used to hiding their numbers. They're used to smuggling. They have contacts, many contacts, out of the country.

So all of a sudden, within, what, 10, 15 years, you have this massive jump in the number of Jews, not just part of the Revolutionary Movement, but getting arrested for it. Here is the testimony of the Shulguin in 1889. relating to the student demonstrations of St. Petersburg reached Kiev. The long corridors of the university were teeming with a crowd of young people in effervescence. I was struck by the predominance of the Jews. Were they more or less numerous than the Russians? I could not say, but they predominated incontestably, for it was they who were in charge of this tumultuous melee in jackets. Sometime later, the professors and the non-striking students began to be chased

at lecture halls. Then this pure and holy youth took false photographs of the Cossacks beating the students. These photographs were said to have been taken on the fly when they were made from drawings. Not all Jewish students are left-wingers. Some were on our side, but those ones suffered a lot afterwards. They were harassed by society. Shulgwayne adds, the role of the Jews and the revolutionary effervescence within universities was notorious and unreligious. to their number across the country. This is part of what assimilation did. They're not assimilated culturally by any means,

but they're not wearing their traditional garb anymore. So it's often very hard to tell who's who. But I think it was pretty obvious at the time by how people spoke and how they dress in other ways that this was a Jewish movement. They were already in the process of taking over the universities and notice this may be one of the first, at least among leftists, the first attempts to use doctored photographs, which, you know, were accepted by the press

in England and America without criticism to make the Tsarish government look bad. Miljikov described all of this as legends about the revolutionary spirit of the Jews. They, government officials, need legends, just like the primitive men, rhymed prose. Conversely, G.P. Fedettov wrote, The Jewish nation, morally liberated from the 80s onwards, like the Russian intelligentsia under Peter the Great, is in the highest degree uprooted, internationalist, and active. It immediately assumed the leading role in the Russian Revolution. It marked the moral profile of the Russian revolutionary with its incisive and somber

character. From the 80s onward, the Russian and Jewish elites merged not only in a common revolutionary action, but also in all spiritual fads, and especially in the passion for non-rootedness. In the eyes of a contemporary, simple witness to the facts, Zenaida Altsynskaya, who corresponded from the town oral with Fyodor Khriechkov, this Jewish youth of the beginning of the century appeared as follows. With them, there is the art and love of fighting, and what projects vast bold they have something of their own a halo of suffering something precious we envy them we are vexed that the russian youth is not the same already already due to these um you know largely make-believe jewish suffering during the pogroms they have this aura of suffering this is this is

they were already creating that the holocaust or what the soviet said the you know the holocaust made it far worse, but it was the same idea, whether Holocaust or programs, that they are the suffering race, and we've made it, and we've made money despite all of that, and that created a fighting spirit. I want to uproot the concept of the, especially young Jews at the time, of being, you know, very meek, stereotypical. no they had they had fighting organizations they were armed that's why the pogroms are the stuff of mythology

actually this came up with with both radio shows yesterday it's a very important concept that people are interested in these were not meek people they were incredibly arrogant people and the more that they convinced themselves that they were the victims of suffering the more arrogant they became Emmergursky states the following hypothesis. Participation in the revolutionary movement was, so to speak, a form of assimilation

suitable than the common assimilation through baptism, and it appears all the more worthy because it also meant a sort of revolt against one's own Jewish bourgeoisie and against one's own religion, which counts it for nothing for the revolutionaries. However, this proper assimilation was neither complete nor even real, many of these young men in their haste tore themselves from their own soil without really taking root in Russian soil and remain outside these two nations and two cultures to be nothing more than this material of which internationalism is so fond of. But as the equal rights of the Jews remain one of the major demands of the Russian Revolutionary Movement, These young people, by embarking in the revolution, kept in their hearts and minds the idea they were still serving the interests of their people. This was the thesis that Parvus had adopted as a course of action during his entire life, which he had formulated, defended, and inculcated to the young people. The liberation of the Jews from Russia can only be done by overthrowing the Tsarist regime.

especially the Tsar as the protector of orthodoxy. To a great extent, you know, it's no accident that our conception of the Antichrist is similar, if not identical to the Jewish concept of the Messiah. The revolutionary mind said that Jews themselves comprised that that Messiah. It's perfectly consistent with the Kabbalah. So, but when you advocate for equal rights for Jews, whatever that means, they were a privileged group in Russia, that could only benefit this Jewish bourgeoisie. They were very dependent on it for money and for financing. And I don't believe, but I suppose it's possible, but I don't believe that the people, whatever they mean by that, was really on the minds of these people.

I think the ideology and Jewish interests as an ethnic conception that was primarily on their minds I don't I don't really believe I mean it's true that they were very alienated

from the entire country as we read here especially the peasantry who they knew zero about so it's possible that they start believing this nonsense about how terribly oppressed they are and yet their view views on the peasantry. Their views, you know, the goyam. I mean, that's the ultimate goyam on the farm, which they looked at it with utter disgust. The proletariat was their primary target. So I don't really believe they considered even remotely the interests of the majority of the Russian population. They abandoned the peasantry after the two-the-people movement failed, and they went for the most alienated group they could find, very else.

like the Jews between two nations, the proletariat, too, in Marxist thinking, was also between two nations, the international proletariat as well as Russia itself. But again, that recruitment didn't go very well either. There was no support for any kind of revolutionary, like we would call vaguely the Bolsheviks in Russia. It never got out of the single digits, and I'm pretty confident about that. This thesis found significant support for a particular layer of Jewish society. Middle-aged people, well-off, set, incredibly estranged from the spirit of adventure, but who, since the end of the 19th century, fed a permanent irritation against the Russian mode of government.

It was in this ideological field that their children grew up before they ever even received the sap of Judaism to subsist from. An influential member of the Bund, Mr. Race, points out that at the turn of the 19th and 20th century, the Jewish bourgeoisie did not hide the hopes and expectations at place in the progress of the revolutionary movement. It, which it once rejected, now had the bourgeoisie's favors. And that's what I said before. They were not really opposed. The bourgeoisie meant a very different group of people. It wasn't just all capitalist.

the Jews who financed, again, all upper class people, that was okay. It was by capitalists, the capitalist owning, ruling class, that was Gentile almost by definition. Jigershuni explained to his judges, it is your persecutions that have driven us to the revolution. In fact, the explanation is to be found both in Jewish history. and in Russian history at their intersection. Let us listen to G.A. Landau, a renowned Jewish publicist, he wrote after 1917, quote, there were many Jewish families both small and middle class in which the parents, bourgeois themselves, saw with their benevolent eyes something proud.

Always quiet, their offspring being marked by the seal and fashion of one of the social revolutionary ideologies in vogue. They also, in fact, leaned vaguely in favor of this ideology, which protested against the persecutors, but without asking what was the nature of this protest or what were their persecutions. And it was thus that, little by little, the hegemony of socialism took root in Jewish society. The negation of civil society and of the state contempt for bourgeois culture and of the inheritance of past centuries, and inheritance from which the Jews had less difficulty to tear themselves away from since they already had, by Europeanizing themselves, renounced their own inheritance.

The revolutionary ideas in the Jewish milieu were doubly destructive, and for Russia and for themselves, but they penetrated the Jewish milieu much more deeply than the Russian milieu. There was a neurotic short circuit. You see it in the left today. a neurotic short circuit in their in their in their brains where um they can't comprehend consequences their so-called persecutions never existed until the left has started killing people starting attacking churches started attacking the the state and the monarchy that's what they don't understand it didn't just happen these things happened for specific reasons and it was often just the common people

which gets me suspicious what they mean when they say the people the common people who took their anger out on them yeah it was an overwhelmingly Jewish group that killed Alexander II leftist terrorism was a very Jewish phenomenon even though they use Gentile killers hopefully to distract attention

but they don't and how many of them actually believed it and how many of them just use it strategically consequences, you know, the question of, and it says right here, why did this happen? Did they wake up one morning and all of a sudden they're going to start persecuting Jews when treating them extremely well before, like we've been reading in this whole book? It's a neurosis at this point, and it's still around today, and it's still dominant in the left today. A jeweler from Kiev, Marshaq, who even created some pieces to decorate the churches of the city,

testifies that while I was frequenting the bourgeoisie, I was contaminated by the revolutionary spirit. Moreover, this is what we see with the young Bogroff, that energy, that passion which grows in him during his youth spent in the bosom of a very rich family. His father, a wealthy liberal, gave full liberty to his young terrorist son. and the Goetz brothers, also terrorists, had for grandfathers two Muscovites rich on Croesus Goats, on the other hand, and on the other, Vesotsky, a multi-millionaire teammaker, and these, far from retaining their grandchildren, paid to the SR hundreds of thousands of rubles. Many Jews have come to swell the ranks of the socialist, continues Landau, in one of his speeches in the Duma. A.I. Gukov quotes the testimony of a young SR, among other causes of her disenchantment. She said that the revolutionary movement was entirely monopolized by the Jews, and that they saw in the triumph of the revolution, their own triumph. The enthusiasm for the revolution has seized Jewish society from the top to the bottom, says I.O. Levin.

It is not only the lower strata of the Jewish population of Russia, that has devoted themselves to the revolutionary passion. But this movement could not fail to catch a large part of the intellectuals and semi-intellectuals of the Jewish people. Semi-intellectuals who, in the 20s, constituted the active executives of the Soviet regime. They were even more numerous among the liberal professions, from dentists to university teachers,

those who could settle outside the palest settlement. Having lost the cultural heritage of traditional Judaism, these people were nonetheless foreign to Russian culture, and any other national culture. This spiritual vacuum, hidden under a specifically assimilated European culture, made the Jews already inclined to materialism by their trades as tradesmen or craftsmen very receptive to materialistic political theories. The rationalist mode of thought peculiar to the Jews predisposes them to adhere to doctrines

such as that of revolutionary Marxism. So we've heard over the last two episodes, I think, exclusively from Jewish sources, both at the time and later, later scholars, that the revolutionary movement was Jewish. The upper classes, you know, the older generation who you would think would be opposed to terrorism was quite in favor of. They might not do it themselves, but, you know, I don't think this. is uncommon to be very proud of their sons and the pogroms and what they believed to be the persecution of the state somehow galvanized them into action this is why the the Jews had to provoke the Orthodox as much as possible attacking the Easter procession which was in the 20th century because these pogroms this is what and the belief that the state had something to do with it, this galvanized all segments of the of the Jewish population.

Propaganda coming from Britain and America in all languages was flooding the country. They actually came to believe it, especially the older generation. Revolution was a Jew, it had nothing to do with class. And while it's true, they weren't exactly, you know, he said it at the time. There's much in the Kabbalah that they did adopt

they were stateless people there was no Zion not a large Zionist group yet not even close the revolution was their state the revolution was their culture and the cult of a victim hunt and when they take over

of course there's no victims anymore except themselves so this is all classes all layers of the Jewish population they had spent the last generation taking advantage of the state taking over the liberal professions, dominating the merchant trade, and then now, after the murder of Alexander II, they use all that influence now to attempt their take over the country. It took a while, but the millions of bodies they left behind come precisely from this mentality. It was a Jewish movement, but I don't want to leave, I wanted to say this before, and I forgot, I don't want to leave out the Freemasons that had penetrated the urban nobility, the upper reaches of the nobility, both because of their business dealing for Jews, as well as Freemation Ring, which was all over the place, despite the fact that it was technically illegal, especially under Alexander III, the two prongs, at this stage, the two prongs of the revolutionary movement. But as far as violence is concerned, that was entirely Jewish. And you're not really seeing a whole lot of, you know, Karl Marx never really explained what he wanted to create.

He never laid out his future idea, which is very interesting. I never heard of any other political theorists say, I'm not going to tell you what's going to happen afterwards, just the purely negative. And they're kind of the same way here. I don't think they could have said. I don't think they really knew 100%. They knew that Balthasar, as was written in the Apatia of House after the murder of Nicholas Sassanke, had to go. Orthodoxy needed to be destroyed. the bulwark against revolution

was the Russian Empire. Karl Marx said this over and over again. Karl Marx and Engels, they hated the Slavs more than any other group of people. That was purely racial. It exploded during the Crimean War, and that propaganda continued. So these revolutionaries were being covered for

in the West, Britain in America and France, less so in Germany. And they had support all over the civilized world. The entire thing is a lie, and it is completely ethnic, because even masonry is heavily influenced by the Kabbalah. So you had these two prongs at the time, but as far as activism was concerned, it was Jewish. I think we're going to end it right there, and then we can finish the rest of this chapter on the next episode.

But I wanted to ask you to address something. In the episode we did previous months ago talking about the pogroms and basically that they're a fiction, they're a narrative. You had put in there a quote from a 1903 St. Petersburg newspaper and it basically was showing that like the some of the newspapers in Russia were reporting that these weren't programs. And they're saying, well, they're saying, well, you say the newspapers were a lot of the newspapers were controlled by Jews, but yet these newspapers over here are saying this. And yeah, I told the person, I said, yeah, but the Western newspapers aren't picking up the ones who are calling it fake, saying that this is, saying that this isn't what it is. So it just people, I think people need to understand that the internet, you know, we've talked.

about in this series already, how operating out of Istanbul, operating the money coming from England. Well, who was that money coming from? I don't think people understand that these were international people that once they had access to information from the outside, money from the outside, they could control a narrative around the world. So this is why years ago, because of these problems these questions it's not the most well-known issue the Jews know all about it

but I wrote a lengthy paper on it and I could send it to you you could post it on your page it was in the Barnes Review was in a bunch of other places and the inspiration came from

Schulze of Neitzin actually even some of the media citations came from Schultzhenitsyn. Thank God for the web, because so much of this stuff from many years ago is available online. Of course, you have different forms of media. It's far more

diverse media back then than you have in the U.S. today. If you had a religious media, you had some conservative organizations that put out well-known publication. We mentioned Katkov not too long ago. He was a journalist. But in the big

Big cities, especially in Western Russia, it was a huge Jewish influence and ownership over the press. And that's where this, that's, that's where some of that stuff comes from. But, and that that was exactly because it was Western, because it was Jewish owned, that's where the Anglo-American world got their news from. And this continued straight up until, straight up until the revolution. because most of the programs occurred in the far west the wealthier parts of the Russian Empire the last places are wanted any trouble they really required

more or less compliant media to exaggerate these claims I have a list in that paper I think that's what he must be referring to I have a list of newspaper articles some from the Baltic some If I remember, it's been a long time saying many different things about the pogroms, but certainly nothing like the Jews today believe what happened.

Because even when it was adopted by the West, it just got bigger and bigger and bigger. God knows the number. You know, what Jews would say today, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands. The six million figures I mentioned many times before was connected to this. But places like Odesta, it was a Jewish media, period. Knishev for the most part, Kiev for the most part. It's also very wealthy parts of Western Russia and the Jews predominated. That, in general, where you're going to get.

And everywhere else in the empire, to the extent that they took their news from there. Unless I had someone right on the scene, they were dependent on the local press for what they reported in their own towns. but you had plenty of organizations at the time that rejected this that saying that they're exaggerated the bodies we've counted the bodies most of them are Russians it's a handful of Jews here

the Russians were not armed etc etc that the Jews were we found pamphlets that say we're going to attack this procession defend your Jewish people destroy and that's where most of these things came from all right

We'll pick up and finish this chapter on the next episode. As always, I'm going to point everyone to the show notes on these episodes so that they can go and support Dr. Johnson's work. Thank you. Yep, of course. Dr. Johnson, I appreciate it. Talk to you in a couple days. Thank you. All right, my friend.

Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cunynez Show. This is 200 years together with Dr. Matthew Raphael. Johnson. How are you doing, Dr. Johnson? I'm doing fine, except for, you know, there's cat hair everywhere. You get one, you get one Turkish Angora, and that's it. White hair all over the place. My God. And the more your brusher, the more hair comes out, the more, I mean, it just never

ends. It really, it doesn't seem logical, but it's everywhere. Before we started this, I went to the curtains back there because they were separated, and It was our orange cat and she was looking out and it was broken. And then I looked and I'm like, I'm going to have to take those curtains down and clean them because she's just been leaning up against them. And, yeah, I know the feeling. Yeah. She's a beautiful animal, though. But, you know, she gets away with everything.

Plus, she can't hear. You know, so, you know, she can do what she wants. She sleeps better than any of us, all of us put together. I guess if you're deaf, yeah, you can do that. Life. She loves the vacuum cleaner. None of the other cats could figure it out. All right. Let's get going here. We left off on page 149, and this will finish up Chapter 6 today. The co-author of this collection, V.S. Mandel, remarks, Russian Marxism in its pure estate, copied from the original German, was never a Russian national movement. And Jews in Russia, who were animated by a revolutionary spirit, for which nothing could be easier than assimilated. a doctrine exhibited in books in German, were naturally led to take an important part

in the work of transplanting this foreign fruit on Russian soil. F.A. Steppen expressed it thus. The Jewish youth boldly discussed, quoting Marx and support, the question of the form in which the Russian Muzik should possess the land. The Marxist revolution began in Russia with the Jewish youth inside the pale of settlement. Developing this idea, V.S. Mandel recalls the protocols of the elders of Zion, this stupid and hateful falsity. Well, these Jews see in the delusions of the protocols the malicious intent of the anti-Semites to eradicate Judaism, but they themselves are ready in varying degrees to organize the world on

new principles and believe that the revolution marks a step towards the establishment of the heavenly kingdom on earth and a tribute to the Jewish people for its greatest glory, the role of leader of the popular movements for freedom, equality, and justice. A leader who, of course, does not hesitate to break down the existing political and social regime. And he gives us an example a quotation from the book of Fritz Khan, the Hebrews as a race and people of culture. Quoting, Moses, 1,250 years before Jesus Christ, proclaimed the rights of man. Christ paid with his life the preaching of communist manifestos in a capitalist state. Then, in 1848, the star of Bethlehem rose for the second time, and it rose again above the roofs of Judea.

Marks. Well, I'm going to let that last part just go, because it is so, it is so bizarrely stupid. But about the protocols. I have an article I wrote years ago, and I haven't published it. My opinion is that the reason the Jews hate the protocol so much, and I can't blame them for this, is that it implies that their elders, their highest intellectual elites, would put out something that badly written. That's what I think their big issue is. It would be mine. If you read Jewish political writings at the time, including about the future, you know, it is the total.

opposite of that it doesn't even mention any of the major issues that were that were discussed at these at these congresses but despite how crude it is and obviously you know not real it does it does you know reveal a few things although given what this is early 20th century whole lot of people, especially in Russia, who didn't already know the basics that this document laid out. No one really needed the protocol. I have, you know, I put writings from the protocols up against actual Jewish writing at the time. Of course, there's no, there's no similarity whatsoever, but I want to, okay, I can't let that last two sentences go. You notice they say Christ, not Jesus.

They mentioned Jesus in the first part, but not the second part, where it's more important. This is just another way. Fritz Khan is merely blaspheming one more time this way. He knows what he's saying, and he knows how ridiculous it is. So Fritz Khan was not one of the elders of Zion. but at the same time and I'm just wondering what what the Solzhenitin family is going to do

when they put out their official version of this or they're just going to leave this out or are they going to rewrite it or are they going to have a million footnotes and explain it all away or something like that but regardless

using phrases when I analyze Moses Hess in a few other places. He uses phrases like, you know, heavenly kingdom. That's just a metaphor. It has nothing to do with the spirit. It has nothing to do with heaven,

maybe a kingdom. And the closest it comes to being accurate is for its greater glory. But to be that superficial to believe that, and this is being taught in a bunch of places that Moses writes of man. Commandments were a series of duty. Christ was no, no communist.

in the sense that any of us know what communism is. But at the time, the early 20th century, I think the plan, the revolutionary movement, that this was Jewish, I think this was well known, I think their plan, people who knew, who wanted to know, in public honesty have knew, Nicholas II knew, Alexander the third knew, the Jewish agenda, its connection to the revolutionary movement,

the fact that it really wasn't a religious movement at all I think that was well known to people who wanted to know so any of these documents like the protocols really weren't necessary but I just have to put out whoever wrote this thinks that this this badly written book is actual the elites of Zion it does make me laugh a little bit

thus of this common veneration for the revolution emerge and distinguish certain currents of opinion in Jewish society all desperately unrealistic, childishly pretentious, thereby irresistibly aspiring to a troubled era, and not in Russia alone, but encompassing the whole century. With what casualness and what gravity at the same time, with what beautiful promises Marxism penetrates into the consciousness of cultivated Russia. Finally, the revolution has found its scientific foundation with its cortege of infallible deductions

and inevitable predictions. Among the young Marxists, there is Julia Sederbaum, Martov, the future leader of the Mensheviks, who, together with his best friend Lenin, will first found the union for the struggle for the liberation of the working class, all of Russia, only he will not enjoy the same protections as Lenin. Exiled in the merciful country of Minasin, he will have to serve his three years in the tough region of Turacan. It was he, too, who, together with Lenin, designed the ISCRA and set up a whole network for its dissemination. Yeah, remember, your old-school Marxists, they claim to be scientists, not social scientists. This was science, because they were materialists, and hence everything, including our thoughts, are material, or have a, or derived directly from material things.

So this was inevitable point of a vanguard party is to move it along a little bit. In fact, the rise of the party itself is inevitable. But I don't know why all of Russia. No, the working class, in the socialist way of thinking, working class referred to the proletarians, the proletariat. We already talked about why they were targeted. most of Russia was agrarian most of Russia was either

old believer very strict orthodox or orthodox and in charge of the land by now landlords were history for the most part I think by the time World War I started the Russian peasantry owned

96 to 97% of the arable land and 100% of it in northern and eastern Russia and that no other country can match that. So they had no intention, you know, giving land to the peasants. Well, isn't that private property? They're opposed to private property.

They don't, you know, they hurt them into the worst possible solution or collective farms. We're random groups of people. It's not a community. It's a collective. There's a big difference between those two. The collective is just random people thrown together. a community is something natural and organic run by Jews who had no idea

what a what a what a tractor was or how to use a horse to plow the only hoe that they knew were in in their in their in their in their taverns knew nothing and this is why the agriculture and the Soviet Union was in such bad state it never even came close to reaching the level

that it that it reached under under the arts especially in this period of time. This was someone of a golden age in Russian history. Russia was doing extremely well which is why the revolutionary movement needed a major war. Something that Rasputin said, if you enter this war, Nicholas, you'll never come out of it. I don't know if Nicholas thought himself trapped or whatever, but they needed a huge war and all that trauma

to be able to create some kind of revolutionary, but without the war they would have just been pranks in the universities. But even before collaborating with Lenin to found the all-Russian Social Democrat Party, Martov then exiled to Vilnius, had set up the ideological and organizational foundations of a Jewish joint labor union for Lithuania, Poland, and Russia. Martov's idea was that, from now on, propaganda within the masses should be favored as work within the circles, and for this, make it more specifically Jews. and in particular translated into Yiddish.

In his lecture, Martov described the principles of the new union. We expected everything from the movement of the Russian working class and considered ourselves as an appendix of the Pan-Russian Workers' movement. We had forgotten to maintain the link with the Jewish mass who does not know Russian. But at the same time, without suspecting it, we hoisted the Jewish movement to a height unmatched by the Russians. Now is the time to free the Jewish movement from the mental oppression to which the bourgeoisie has subjected it, which is the lowest and lowest bourgeoisie in the world, to create a

specifically Jewish workers' organization, which will serve as a guide and instructor for the Jewish proletariat. In the national character of the movement, Martov saw a victory over the bourgeoisie, and with this, we are perfectly safe from nationalism. In the following year, Plekinoff at the Congress of the International Socialists described the Jewish social democratic movement as, quote, the vanguard of the working class army in Russia. It was later, it was the latter, which became the Bund, Vilnius 1897, six months before the creation of the Social Democrat Party of Russia.

The next stage is the first Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Party, which takes place in Minsk, where the Central Committee of the Bund was located in 1898. The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that out of eight delegates, five were Jewish, the envoys of a Kiev newspaper, the Workers' Gazette, Eidlman, Vigdorchik, and of those of the Bun, Kramer, Muttnick, and Katz. Within the Central Committee of the Party of three members, which was constituted at this Congress, entered A. Kramer, and B. Eidleman. Thus was born the Social Democratic Labor Party of Russia in a close relationship with the the Bund. Let us add, even before the creation of Iskra, it was to Lenin that the direction of the newspaper of the Bund had been proposed. Keep in mind that the Social Democratic Labor Party that eventually became or split between

the whites and the Reds or the provisional state of Kerensky or the Mensviks and the Bolsheviks, I should probably say. It sounds very moderate. The revolutionary Social Democratic Labor Party was the early name of the Bolshevik party. We just called it that because it's so much easier. But we see it here. There's no doubt it was created by Jews who probably never came across a working man in their lives and couldn't talk to them even if they did.

The Jewish mass didn't speak Russian. I don't know how there could be any fellow feeling there whatsoever. You have to be very careful how they word things. You know, the Jewish bourgeoisie was not treated. I mean, it was. The Judaism itself was the huge part of the bourgeoisie in Russia. They, in fact, created the concept of the bourgeoisie, not just in Russia, but all over the world. They created that alienated, always on the move, you know, free trade ideology.

Free trade, remember, and Karl Marx is absolutely essential. because before you can say that the workers have no country you have to break down those countries and the best way to do that is through free trade this is one of the important reasons why capitalism has to come before

come before any kind of socialism I do not believe I don't think I'll ever believe maybe there's a few outliers but that Russian proletariat were ever seen as anything more than cannon fodder there couldn't be any

fellow feeling between the two. The only way there could be that if they thought that the Russian worker had been so durationated at this point, they weren't Orthodox anymore, and they're just, you know, ciphers. Maybe there could be something there, but they barely spoke the same language. They had no connection in any way, socially, economically. We know what class these people came from. but I I like this one sentence and you paused when you wrote when you read it

in the national character of the movement quoting Martov saw a victory over the bourgeoisie and with this we are perfectly safe from nationalism it's very odd

it's a national character and yet we're safe from nationalism he isn't talking about Jewish nationalism there it's Jewish cohesion that's going to break down ethnicity around them. It's Jewish nationalism alone that will be the core of this movement

because nationalism was their biggest threat. I mean, the Orthodox Church, monarchy, Russian nationalism. By this point, essentially one thing, that was the fear. And to have this workers' movement, you know, essentially, if they're speaking English, you know, it's a secret core. They couldn't really talk to anybody. The national character of the movement meant that over time, the Russian worker or the Russian citizen,

will become derationated enough that they don't have to worry about it. They, of course, will remain nationalist no matter what. The fact that the boon was created in Vilnius is not surprising. Vilnius was the Lithuanian Jerusalem, a city inhabited by a whole cultivated Jewish elite, and through which transited in provenance of the West, all the illegal literature heading to, St. Petersburg and Moscow. But the Bund, despite its internationalist ideology, became a factor of national unity of Jewish life, even though its leaders regarded against nationalism as if it were the plague, like the Russian Social Democrats who succeeded in watching out for it until the end.

While subsidies flowed from abroad consented by the wealthy Jewish milieu, the Bund advocated the principle that there is not a single Jewish person and rejected the idea of a universal Jewish nation, claiming on the contrary that there exist to its antagonist classes within the Jewish people. The boon feared that nationalistic dispositions might obscure the class consciousness of the proletariat. However, there was hardly any Jewish proletariat in the strict sense of the term. The Jews seldom entered factories, as F. Cohn explains, they considered it disgraceful not to be their own master, albeit very modestly, as an artisan or even an apprentice when one can nurture the hope of opening one's own workshop. To be hired in a factory was to lose all

illusions as to the possibility of becoming one's own master. And this is why working in a factory was a humiliation, a disgrace. Another obstacle was the reluctance of employers to hire workers whose day of rest was Saturday and not Sunday. As a result, the boom declared Jewish proletariat both the artisans and small traders and clerks was not every employed worker or proletarian according to Marx and even commercial intermediaries. To all these individuals, the revolutionary spirit could be inculcated. Then they had to be joined to the struggle against the autocracy. The Bund even declared that the Jews are the best proletariat in the world. The Boone never renounced the idea of strengthening its work among Christian workers.

Not suspected of sympathy for socialism, G.B. Slyosburg writes in this regard that the enormous propaganda deployed by the Bund and some of its interventions have done harm, and in particular an immediate damage to Jewish trade, and their startup industries. The Boon was turning against the employing instructors, the very young apprentices, kids of 14 to 15 years old. Its members broke the tiles of more or less Jewish opulent houses. addition on Yom Kippur, young people from the Boon went into the great synagogue, interrupted the prayer, and started an incredible party with beer flowing abundantly. Remember, this is reading from their propaganda. The left, both then and now, the way we understand the left, never provides its ideology openly. It's never done that.

It comes from the, you know, it comes from the, you know, free nations. from the nature of Judaism here in Russia because if they laid out everything that they were going to do no one would they'd be out of the country so you know they talk about giving land to the peasants giving the factory to the to the worker this kind of thing now I suppose some individuals may have thought that but the elites that they've mentioned here never thought that

that you know that wasn't going to happen the party never once what I said before through the history of the Soviet Union in the early or later part did nothing to alleviate the cause of either the workers peasants in fact made their life

absolutely miserable in every possible way and one of the reasons which you just read is that there weren't any Jewish proletarians and it isn't just that working in a factory was it was humiliation because they're the aristocrats of the world

how dare you make us work this was this was a part of being Jewish to think that they had rejected any kind of Jewish nationalism or thought that Jews were Jews were divided as is nonsense and for many of these men the way that they thought not necessarily in their propaganda

so the very definition of the bourgeoisie the owners of capital was were actual Russians and Ukrainians Christians you know it's like how

Lennon defined the word you know a capitalist it was any farmer who could own who could rent out labor for a couple of days that was it

which they almost all did you know you have wealthy Jewish elites in New York that were members somehow of the working class in his mind but you know low level you know priests and and

small landowners they were the the capitalist they completely redefined all of these things they twisted every possible definition they're not going to say that at first but in terms of their policy

that's exactly what they did the word I was looking for was Kulak you know the Kulak you was he you know it was a mockery turned out that Kulak was anyone

especially Christians who opposed the USSR. It didn't matter what class they were in. Same thing goes for your higher level capitalist class. Yeah, I think these young Jews were irritated

by their fathers and grandfathers. But what do they think their money came from? I mean, Karl Marx was no fan of the Jewish bourgeoisie either, which was Judaism. You didn't have Jewish workers. You got, no, you didn't have Jewish farmers. they were a more or less unified group stratified only by income and wealth that they possessed.

So twisting these definitions, when we read this stuff, remember, he's quoting propaganda leaflets and papers and things like that, not actually what they were going to do, not their policy, and not what they really thought. But in spite of its class fanaticism, the Bund was increasingly based on a universal current, equally characteristic of bourgeois liberally. It was increasingly understood in the cultivated world that the national idea plays an essential role in the awakening of self-consciousness in every man, which obliged the theoreticians of the proletarian circles themselves to raise more broadly the national question. Thus, in the Bund, assimilationist tendencies were gradually supplanted by nationalist tendencies. This Jabotinsky confirms, as it grows, the Bund replaces a national ideology with cosmopolitanism.

Abram Amsterdam, one of the first important leaders of the Boond, who died prematurely, tried to reconcile the Marxist doctrine with the ideas of nationalism. In 1901, at a Congress of the Bund, one of the future leaders of the year 17, Mark Lieber and I Goldman, who was then a young man of 20, declared, so far we have been cosmopolitan believers, we must become national. Do not be afraid of the word. National does not mean nationalist. May we understand, even if it is 90 years late. And although the Congress has endorsed a resolution against the exultation of the national sentiment, which leads to chauvinism, he also pronounced himself for the national autonomy of the Jews, regardless of the territory inhabited by them.

Which is what we've said so far. Let them say whatever they want in public, especially when they're speaking in Russian or in English. yes the Jews were different Jews were separate we may have disagreements but we're not going to tell the going about that you know Jabotinsky was one of the most fanatical

Jewish nationalists of the time that we've mentioned there was always this now I when when London took over London and Trotsky they they use nationalism usually against almost always against Russia Stalin the same way Russian nationalism is what they fear

They use Ukrainian nationalism against Russian. They use the Baltics, even Islamic. They promoted these forms of nationalism to control Russia. They did this all the time. In fact, Russia was just mercilessly exploited throughout the existence of the Soviet Union. While they, of course, maintain their sense of self, you don't have to be religious to be a Jew. That wasn't even the issue. Jews all over the world were back.

of the USSR, in the 30s, especially after World War II, no matter what their religious beliefs were. Yeah, sovenism, that's exactly what being a Jew was. And it was very hard for them to speak in public without contradicting themselves. They can't just come out and say, we're aristocrats and you're not. So they had these kind of weird tension in their thinking,

also proclaiming for himself autonomy of the Jews, regardless of territory. In other words, they were this special. pan-national group. It was cosmopolitanism for everyone else, unless they needed them. This slogan of national autonomy, the boon developed it for a few years, both in its propaganda and its campaign of political banquets of 1904. Although nobody knew exactly what could mean autonomy without the territory, thus every Jewish person was given the right to use only his own language in his dealings with the local administration and the organs of the state. But how?

for should not this right also be granted to the nationals of other nations. It should also be noted that in spite of its socialist tendencies to Bund in its Social Democrat program pronounced itself against the demand for the restoration of Poland and against constituent assemblies for the marches of Russia. Nationalism, yes, but for oneself alone. Thus, the Boond admitted only Jews in its midst, and once this orientation, was taken, and although it was radically anti-clerical, it did not accept the Jews who had denied their religion.

The parallel Russian social democratic organizations, the Bund, called them Christian, and moreover, how could they be represented differently? But what a cruel offense for Lenin to be so catalogued among the Christians? Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what he means there, and I'm not sure if he means

denying the religion as a belief in God. that couldn't be because it's basically an atheist institution it's Jews that weren't Jews anymore that had assimilated so much that they didn't identify with other Jews so I think the word religion there may be going a little far it's not just you know you know taking off your your hat your fedora no it's it's it's these Jews who assimilated to the point that they weren't Jews anymore and hence didn't serve Jewish interests

they were just ordinary citizens that was that was the problem and unless Lenin was more Jewish than we when we think I'm not sure why he would be called the Christians and you see the contempt they have for that word

the Christian in their slang was that anyone who you know when a Jew would leave the ethnic not identifying himself as a Jew anymore though he might as well be Christian I think that's where this slang

came from. Lenin did have Jewish background, as we know, but the thrust, the anti-religious thrust was mostly aimed at overwhelmingly at orthodoxy, especially Russian orthodoxy. The Bund thus embodies the attempt to defend Jewish interests, in particular against Russian interests. Here, too, Slausburg acknowledges the Bunn's action has resolved. resulted in a sense of dignity and awareness of the rights of Jewish workers. Subsequently, the Boone's relations with the Russian Social Democratic Party were not easy. As with the Polish Socialist Party, which at the time of the birth of the Boond, had an extremely suspicious attitude towards it and declared that the isolationism of the Boon places it in an

adversarial position in relation toward us. Given its increasingly nationalist tendencies, the Boon could only have conflicting relations with the other branches of Russian social democracy. Lennon thus describes the discussion he and Martoff had with Plekinoff in Geneva in September 1900. GV. shows a phenomenal intolerance by declaring that the Bund in no way is in no way a social democratic organization, but that it is simply an exploiting organization that takes advantage

of the Russians. He says that our aim is to drive this Bund out of the party, that the Jews are all all without exception chauvinists and nationalists, that the Russian party must be Russian and not turn itself in bound hand and foot to the tribe of God. G.V. has stuck to his positions without wanting to reconsider them, saying that we simply lack knowledge of the Jewish world and experience in dealing with it. From what ear Martoff, the first initiator of the Bund must have heard this diatribe? Yeah, this isn't Lenin talking. He's talking about a conversation. He overreaching. He's

overheard between Martov and Plukonov in Geneva. So what he's saying is that even within socialism, Jews are exploiting those around them. And if they got rid of them, of course,

as this guy says, there would be no revolutionary movement. It would be tiny. But even within socialism, they knew that there was a secret core that didn't speak Russian, didn't speak any of the line, Polish, didn't speak, He didn't speak German, speaking Yiddish, out for itself. And of course, as we all know, the Bolshevik Party, when it took over, was overwhelmingly of this group of people.

So now it's a little naive to think we could kick them out. They were the revolutionary movement. But it just shows, even within, you even had, you even had within the revolutionary movement itself, people were very suspicious. They're not working with us. and maybe some of these men actually were worried about what they thought a proletarian was, where, of course, we know damn well the Jew was not. In 1898, the Boone, despite his greater seniority, agreed to join the Russian Social Democratic Party, but as a whole with full autonomy over Jewish affairs.

It therefore agreed to be a member of the Russian Party, but on condition that it did not interfere in its affairs. Such was the agreement between them. However, at the beginning of 1902, the Boone considered that autonomy so easily obtained that the first Congress of the Social Democratic Party was no longer enough for it, and that it now wanted to join the party on a federal basis, benefiting of full independence, even in program matters. Regarding this, it published a pamphlet against the ISCRA. The central argument, Lenin explains, was that the Jewish proletariat is a part of the Jewish people, which occupies a special place. among the nations. At this stage, Lenin sees Redden and feels obliged to clash with the Bund himself. He no longer calls only to maintain pressure by avoiding a fragmentation of the party into

several independent formations, but he embarks on a passionate argument to prove, following admittedly Kautzky, that Jews are by no means a nation. They have neither common language nor territory, a flatly materialistic judgment that Jews are one of the most authentic nations, the most united found on earth, united in it, it is in spirit. In his superficial and vulgar internationalism, Lenin could not understand the depth or historical roots of the Jewish question. The idea of a separate Jewish people is politically reactionary. It justifies Jewish particularism, and all the more reactionary were Zionists to him. Lenin saw a solution for the Jews only in their total assimilation, which amounts to saying,

in fact to cease outright being Jewish. Keep in mind, you know, during the Civil War, you really had two factions. You had Lenin on the one side. That took a lot of German money, which wasn't German, actually came from Jewish banks in the U.S. And then you had Trotky, who was working with people like Jacob Schiff.

And if Lenin hadn't died so early in 25, the same split would have happened with him is what happened with Stalin and Trotsky is one of these people who saw the Bund as something absolutely essential but what Lenin is talking about here it is superficial but he was so fearful

that the party being small cannot afford to be splitting up into groups and he would say whatever was necessary to keep that from happening yet he was a little naive on this what percentage Jew London was. I mean, there's always debates on that for some reason, but that's what he's doing. Lenin is saying this because he's fearful of any split within his party, because there aren't

many of them. They have to maintain unity, and he wasn't going to let anything, ethnicity or otherwise, split it in pieces. And I think that was motivating him here. In the summer of 1903 at the Second Congress of the Social Democratic Party of Russia in Brussels, out of 43 delegates, there were only five of the Bund, however, many Jews participated, and Martzoff, supported by 12 Jews, among them Trotsky, Deutsch, Martinov, Leadov, to name but a few, spoke on behalf of the party against the federal principle demanded by the Bund. The members of the Bund then left the Congress, which permitted Lenin's proposed statutes in paragraph 1 to prevail, and then also left the party, after the split of the Social Democrat

Party into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks. The leaders of the Mensheviks were Axel Rod Deutsch, Martoff, Lieber, Trotsky, as well as Dan Abramovich, Pleckinoff, remaining on the sidelines. And keep in mind, Trotsky is doing the same thing. You know, he had no problem with the Bund. He was very much allied with it. But he agreed with Lenin at this point, no divisions. Divisions are impossible. Because this is, you know, at 1903, the czarism was at its height.

It was popular. very successful economically. So this was a big worry. It didn't matter. So Lenin and Trotsky were of one mind in this regard. It had nothing to do with Trotsky's Jewishness. It's just that the revolution came first. On the street of the Jews, as it was then called, the Bun quickly became a powerful and active organization.

Until the eve of the events in 1905, the Boone was the most powerful social democratic organization in Russia with a well-established chaperatus, good discipline, members, flexibility, and great experience conspiring. Nowhere else is there a discipline like in the Bun. The bastion of the Bund was the Northwest region. However, formidable competition arose with the Independent Jewish Workers Party, which was created in 1901, under the influence and the exhortations of Zubatov. It persuaded the Jewish workers and all who would listen that it was not the

social democratic ideology that they needed but struggle against the bourgeoisie defending their economic interest to them. The government was interested in their success. They could act legally. Their authority would benefit, would a benevolent referee. The head of this movement was the daughter of a Miller, the intrepid Maria Vilbushvich. The supporters of Zubatov enjoyed great success in Minsk with the Jewish workers. They were passionately opposed to the members of the Bund and obtained much by organizing economic strikes. They also acted, not without success, in Odessa, but just as throughout the country, the frightened government foiled Zubatov's project, likewise with the independents.

Sheevich was arrested in 1903, sentenced to a fairly short sentence, but then came the news of the Kishenev program, and the independents had their hands tied. Meanwhile, the Bund was receiving help from foreign groups from Switzerland first, and then from Paris, London, the United States, where action groups, groups had reached sizable proportions. Organized clubs, Rotarian action groups, association of aid to the work of the Bund in Russia, this aid was mainly financial. From 1901, the Boond renounced economic terror lashing out on employers monitoring factories because it obscured the social democratic consciousness of the workers and they pretended equally of condemning political

terror. This did not prevent Gorsch Lechert, a cobbler who was a member of the Bun from shooting at the governor of Vilnius and to be hanged for it. The young Mendel Deutsch, still a minor, also fired shots whose significance marked the apogee of the movement of the Jewish masses, and already the Boon was wondering if it should not go back to terror. In 1902, the Berdicev conference endorsed a resolution on organized revenge. But a debate broke out in the Boond, and the following year, the Congress formally annulled the decision of the conference. According to Lenin, the Boond in 1903 went through terrorist temptations, which it then got over. It's not too common you hear about the Independent Jewish Workers Party.

It was fairly short-lived, and from what Cholson-Eason describes, they seem to be just simply more Judaic, that they could maintain their wealth. But the bourgeoisie was everyone else who had any kind of wealth. And I don't know what Jewish workers. He already had a problem. There weren't Jewish workers. There weren't Jewish workers in factories. So who were they talking about? This is propaganda? Or are they calling, you know, these upper class boys workers solely because they were members of a bond

of the party or something? and Sultan Easton seems to suggest that in getting rid of this small organization that maybe that was a mistake the state shouldn't have done that because that would have isolated Jews in a far greater way and then of course the the Echishinev thing we'll get to a little bit later it's that came probably next week whenever it comes up again but again it's something that they desperately needed to create units unity. The pogroms solved the problem. Lenin's problem. Jewish unity and the only really

route that they had to get rid of the autocracy was this revolutionary movement. No one else was advocating for it. And terrorism, economic or otherwise, became a way of life. Terror, which had already manifested itself more than once in Russia, enjoyed a general indulgence, an indulgence which was in the air of the time and which, with the increasingly widespread custom of holding, just in case a firearm, as it was easy to obtain one via smuggling, could not fail to arouse in the minds of the youth of the pale of settlement the idea of forming their own combat regiments. But the Boond had active and dangerous competitors. Is it a historical coincidence or the time it simply come for the Jewish national consciousness

to be reborn? In any case, it is in 1897 the year of the creation of the book, just a month prior, the first Universal Congress of Zionism took place. And it was in the early 1900 that young Jews pioneered a new path, a public service path at the crossroads between Iskra and Benaimoisha, the sons of Moses. Some turning right, the others heading left. In the programs of all our groupings, which appeared between 1904 and 1906,

the national theme held its proper place. We have seen that the socialist Bund had not cut it off, and it now only had to condemn Zionism, all the more firmly in order to excite national sentiment to the detriment of class consciousness. It is true that the numbers of the Zionist circles among the youth gave way to the number of young people adhering to the revolutionary socialist parties. Although there were counter-examples as a publisher of the Jewish socialist La Pravda of Geneva, Gurevich, had reconverted to devote himself entirely to the issue of the Jews settlement in Palestine. The ditch dug between Zionism and the boon was gradually filled by such and such a new party, then another, then a third. Poli Zion, Zeri Zion, the Zionist socialists, I can't pronounce that word, each combining in its own way Zionism and socialism.

I think to say that Zionism in this, at this period of time, and the various explicitly Jewish socialist groups, superficial to say that they were upon. Their agenda could be the same, but why live amongst the Goyim when you don't have to? Goyim, of course, are there to be used, but then you had to deal with actual ethnic Russian revolutionaries, which there weren't many of them, for Ukrainians or Baltic or whatever, and you have people who already mentioned who are suspicious of these purely Jewish groups speaking Yiddish within the socialist party. party and its various factions. They end up just taking them over for the most part. But Moses Hess was just probably the best known

a scholar writer who combined both. And this was pretty much the dominant idea amongst Jews now. The only difference was location. Lenin, of course, had a problem with it for very obvious reasons.

But it wasn't in his interest to alienate Jews, to say the least, at this point, in the revolution's history. It is understandable that between parties so close to one another, a fierce struggle developed, and this did not facilitate the task of the Bund, nor did the emigration of the Jews from Russia into Israel, which gained momentum in those years. Why emigrate? What sense does this have when the Jewish proletariat must fight for socialism side-by-side with the working class of all countries, which would automatically solve the Jewish

question everywhere. The Jews have often been criticized in the course of history for the fact that many of them were usurers, bankers, merchants. Yes, the Jews formed a significant attachment, creator of the world of capital, and mainly in its financial forms. This, the great political economist Werner Sambart, described it with a vigorous and convincing pen. In the first years of the revolution, this circumstance was, on the contrary, attributed to the Jews, as an inevitable formation on the roads of socialism. And in one of his indictments in 1919, Keralenko found it necessary to emphasize that the Jewish people, since the Middle Ages, had taken out of their ranks the holders of a new influence, that of capital. They precipitated the dissolution of economic forms

of another age. Yes, of course, the capitalist system in the economic and commercial field, the democratic system in the political field, they're largely indebted to the constructive contribution to the Jews, and these systems, in turn, are the most favorable to the development of Jewish life and culture. In other words, what Kirillenko is saying is that Jews are inherently revolutionary, always seeking a new formation that suits their interests. That's why they precipitated the dissolution of economic forms of another age, specifically the Middle Ages, which was, you know, the most Christian age of all of them.

but the point is they are inherently revolutionary, which was E. Michael Jones's has been E. Michael Jones's thesis in his books on the question. So, yeah, they can make anything work, but we live in a state now where they have actually created the basic parameter, the software that we all run from. But, and this is an unfathomable historical enigma, these systems were not the only ones that the Jews favored. As ESS. Mendel reminds us, if we refer to the Bible, we discover that the very idea of a monarchy was invented by no other people but the Hebrews, and they transmitted it to the Christian world.

The monarch is not chosen by the people, he is chosen by God, hence the right which the Christian peoples have inherited from the coronation and an anointing of the kings. One might rectify by recalling that the pharaohs long ago were also anointed and also bearers of the divine will. For his part, the former Russian revolutionary, A. Valt-Lessian, remembers the Jews did not accord great importance to the revolutionary movement. They put all their hopes in the petitions addressed to St. Petersburg, or even in the bribes paid to the officials of the ministries, but not in all the revolution. This kind of approach to the influential spheres received on the part of the impatient Jewish youth, the Soberka, known since the Middle Ages and now infamous as, as Chatland, someone like G.B. Slavisberg, who worked for many years in the Senate and the Ministry of

the Interior, and who patiently had to solve Jewish problems of a private nature, thought that this avenue was the safest with the richest future for the Jews, and he was ulcerated to note the impatience of these young people. That's not mutually exclusive. It's not mutually exclusive. You could, you know, pay the bribes and think, oh, the revolutionary movement is very small. It's Jewish, but it's very small. We can't count on it. And this is prior to World War 1. That changed everything. This is just making do with where you are. Of course, they were

wealthy. A revolution would mean that they would be more powerful. But at this period of time, we're in 1903, something before. The revolutionary movement was tiny. It was marginal. and wealthy Jews are not going to, before the war anyway, bet anything on this group of fanatics who went around killing people. That's all he's saying here, is they're not mutually exclusive options. Yes, it was perfectly unreasonable on the part of the Jews to join the revolutionary movement, which had ruined the course of normal life in Russia, and consequently, that of the Jews of Russia. Yet in the destruction of the monarchy and in the destruction of the bourgeois order, as sometime before, in the reinforcement of it,

the Jews found themselves in the vanguard. Such as the innate mobility of the Jewish character, its extreme sensitivity to social trends, and the advancement of the future. It will not be the first time in the history of mankind that the most natural impulses of man will suddenly lead to monstrosities most contrary to their nature.

That ends with a punch in the future. face, doesn't it? It does. It does. Tolzaneson seems to think you know, he's connecting the Ashkenazim in Russia with the Jews of the Old Testament. Maybe that's why he uses the word Hebrew. That he knows that they're two

totally separate groups of people. But at the very least, their public pronouncement then and now is that, you know, we are the ancient nation. Of course, we know that that's not true. You know, the moniker was created by a very different group of people. And when I read, actually, actually within the Talmud itself,

those painful weeks when I went through it, yes, they condemn so many figures in the Old Testament, especially the prophets. The monarchy was created by a very different, both religious and ethnic group of people in the ancient world that has pretty much nothing to do. with the people who are creating this revolution. Sultan Easton seems to be on the fence here.

But, you know, when you're talking about the Old Testament, modern jewelry, they have nothing in common. Well, we are finished with this chapter, and I believe the next chapter, and if you're watching this, look at all the footnotes in here. This is incredible. Over 123 footnotes for that chapter alone. Chapter 7, the birth of Zionism.

And in the first, Jabotsinsky is mentioned in the first paragraph. Yeah. A different kind of revolutionary movement in this case. Yeah. All right. Well, I get, like I end every episode, please check the show notes and the links. I have links to Dr. Johnson's Patreon, to his personal page. And I have Radio Albi on there.

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Like I mentioned before, I'm dying to see what the Solst in the family was going to put out this book in English, what they're going to do to it. I sent you the announcement. They condemn conspiracy theories and stuff like that. I'm very anxious to see what they do to the text, how they get around all of this stuff. Because, you know, it's going to be published on a Jewish publication and everything else. I'm dying to see how they mutilate Solzhenitsyn. All right, Dr. Johnson, until episode 25. Thank you.

All right, my friend. Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to part 25 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? It's getting warm, which means I'm going to have to do things like mowing the grass. So I'm all right. I'm slightly irritated, but I'm going to delay it as long as I can. I did the first mowed nine days ago, and it already has to be mowed again.

That's painful. Yeah, yeah, especially in Alabama, where we've actually, three days ago, we started turning the air conditioning on. Well, I turn the air conditioning on when it goes over 65. I would last two seconds in Alabama or point south. All right, we're starting a new chapter today. Chapter 7, The Birth of Zionism. So here we go. How did the Jewish conscience evolve in Russia during the second half of the 19th century? Towards 1910, Vladimir Jabotinsky describes the evolution in his somewhat passionate manner.

At first, the mass of Jews opposed the Enlightenment, the fanatic prejudice of an overvalued specificity. But time did its work, and as much Jews, historically fled humanist culture, as much they aspire to it now. And this thirst for knowledge is so widespread that it perhaps makes us, Jews of Russia, the first nation in the world. However, running towards the goal, we passed it. Our goal was to form a Jew who, by staying Jewish, could live a life that would be that of the universal man, and now we have totally forgotten that we must remain Jewish. We stopped attaching a price to our Jewish essence, and it began to weigh on us. We must extirpate this mentality from self-contempt and revive the mentality of

self-respect. We complain that we are despised, but we are not far from despising ourselves. I don't think that self-loathing is a real issue, but I think this first paragraph is extraordinary. Not only you know, Jabotinsky was a murderous thug but his goals were in all that all that terrible. He talks about the universal man, which in the

Kabbalah refers to Adam Cadman. It's my opinion that Antichrist is either meaning he's not a literal man but one of the many names

for him is a universal man. And, you know, I think it's, I think it's a falsehood to talk about, you know, Zionism is right-wing and everything else as left-wing in Jewish life. They were all over the place. I don't know what he means exactly by the first nation in the world. Does he mean the first existing nation or the first in the sense of primary? Oh, and keep in mind, too, when he refers to the Enlightenment, he's not talking about, you know, 16th, you know, the 17th century of Europe, he's talking about the transition of Jews from the Cahal to, you know, being a part of Russian life or, you know, semi-assimilated. That's what he's talking about.

It's just another Jewish supremacist, a screed typical of him. This description reflects a general trend towards assimilation, but not all aspects of the picture. As we have already seen in Chapter 4, in the late 60s of the 19th century, the publicist and man of letters, Smolenskin, had spoken out vigorously against the tendency to assimilate Jewish intellectuals, as he had observed it in Odessa, or as it had spread in Germany. And he at once declared war on both, bigots and false devotees who want to drive out all knowledge of the House of Israel. No, one must not be ashamed of their origins. One must cherish their national language and dignity. However, national culture can only be preserved through language, the ancient Hebrew. This is all the more important because Judaism derived of territory is a particular phenomenon, a spiritual nation.

The Jews are indeed a nation, not a religious congregation. Smolenskin advanced the doctrine of progressive Jewish national. Well, that's what I said. You know, Zionism, this kind of Jewish nationalism, which exists in every Jewish movement, no matter what it is, they could be all over the place. Even the two pillars, the Masonic two pillars

of mercy and justice, the Kabbal on one side and the Talmud and the other. But I think when he says, drive out all knowledge I think what he's talking about is anything beyond the Talmud

so he may include the Kabbalah he may include liberalism and Marxism that that we're developing in fact were the really essence of the

European Enlightenment and I think that's what he means here and again I said this before but assimilation be very careful they're not you know it you really have to be very careful how you define that term to assimilate seems to mean that you shed anything that makes you a particular race or ethnicity that's not the case here i don't think anyone ever advocated that here it's just that you're not

you know wearing the the fedora and the black coat all the time um and that's pretty much it they realized that they could do more damage and gain more power as looking like people who live in the broader society rather than staying in the cahal. But that's what I think he means by knowledge. And of course, very few Jews, very few Jews knew Hebrew at the time. Throughout the 70s, Smolenskin's voice remained practically unheard of. At the end of this period, however, the liberation of the Slavs from the Balkans contributed to the national awakening of the Jews of Russia themselves. But the pogroms of 1881 to 1882 caused the ideals of Haskellah to collapse.

The conviction that civilization was going to put an end to the persecutions of another age against the Jews, and that these, thanks to the Enlightenment, would be able to approach to European peoples, this conviction was considerably shaken. The experience of the pogroms in the south of Ukraine is thus extrapolated to all of the Jews of Europe. Among the Jews of Russia, there appeared the type of repentant intellectual of those who aspired to return to traditional Judaism. You note that they refuse to take any responsibility. They believe in the lives of these, of the pogroms that they usually provoke and that killed far more Russians or Ukrainians than anybody else. So, you know, what happens is that, you know, newspapers print a false fact or a bunch of false facts. Then they repeat them over and over again.

Then in other contexts, that same false fact shows up. And then academics use those false facts in the building of theory and schools of thought. That's how a lie ends up becoming just completely taken for granted, almost impossible to dislodge. It's not just repetition, but the context of the repetition. And that's what's going on here with the program. The last thing any Jew will do is take responsibility for their role in creating these, and the fact that very few Jews were armed during these so-called pogroms. But they just needed any sense of victimization to mobilize their people behind.

It was then that Lev Pinsker, a well-known doctor, and publicist, already 60 years of age, gave the Jews of Russia and Germany a vigorous appeal to self-imaccipation. Pinska wrote that faith in emancipation had collapsed that it was now necessary to stifle every ounce of hope in brotherhood among peoples. Today, the Jews do not constitute a living nation. There are strangers everywhere. They endure oppression and contempt on the part of the peoples who surround them. The Jewish people is the specter of a dead wandering among the living. One must be blind not to see that the Jews are the chosen people of universal hatred. The Jews cannot assimilate to any nation, and consequently cannot be tolerated by any

nation. By wanting to mingle with other peoples, they have frivolously sacrificed their own nationality, but nowhere have they obtained that the others recognize them as native-born inhabitants equal to them. The destiny of the Jewish people cannot depend on the benevolence of other peoples. The practical conclusion thus lies in the creation of a people on its own territory. What is needed, therefore, is to find an appropriate territory, no matter where in what part of the world, and that the Jews come to populate it. This is this unbelievable delusion, this tremendous malignant narcissism where, you know, I think what they mean by brotherhood among peoples is that Jews ruling over a completely

durationated Europe. And that's what happens now. That's what's happening today. But they don't define these things the way the way we do. But these are the most privileged some of the most powerful and wealthy, tiny little minority in all of Europe. And because they don't rule over it with an iron fist like they do today, they think that they're a specter of dead wandering among the living. This mordland over-dramatization is just, it defines almost Jewish neuroticism, in my opinion.

Moreover, the creation in 1860 of the Alliance was nothing but the first sign of Jewish refusal of a single option, assimilation. There already existed among the Jews of Russia, a movement of palestinophilia, the aspiration to return to Palestine. conforming, in essence, to traditional religious salutation next year in Jerusalem. This movement gained momentum after 1881 to 1882. Stretching out its efforts to colonize Palestine so that within a century, the Jews can finally leave the hospitable land of Europe. The slogans that the Enlightenment had previously broadcasted

inciting to fight traditionalism, Hasidism, and religious prejudices gave way to a call for reconciliation and the union of all layers of Jewish society for the realization of the ideals of Palestine for the return to the Judaism of our fathers in many cities of Russia circles were formed called circles of the lovers of Zion Kovavi Sion Yeah I think it was a big problem

that Palestine of course was occupied by others and it wasn't so much that the Balkanslavs have been liberated from Turkish control that was not good news for the Jews but that it's quite possible that with the breakup of the the gradual breakup of the Turkish Empire that Palestine might be available

and of course that turned out not to be not to be the case so and remember this isn't necessarily religious it sounds it by saying that you know we should fight citizen and traditionalism no this is quite secular

in fact I know Rabbi Weiss of Natura Carter, who's an old friend of mine, I haven't spoken to him in many years, said that the basic argument is there's no Zionism until the Messiah comes. And therefore, you have to be a secular Jew to believe in this, despite the fact that there's Orthodox Jews, you know, who are Zionists all over the place. But this is part of the reason why you have all these freeloaders, huge numbers of Hasidic Jews in Jerusalem that were there prior to this state. of Israel and continue to reject the state of Israel, except, well, they're on welfare from the state, but they don't show up for the draft. They won't do anything else like that. There's, uh, they riot all the time. Um, but at least the excuse is that religious Jews can accept a secular Israel because that can only be established in that place, um, until the Messiah

shows up, Adam Cadman or whatever you want to call it, the Antichrist. And it was thus that an idea joined another to rectify it, going to settle elsewhere, yes, but not anywhere, in Palestine. But what happened in Palestine? The First Crusade resulted in the virtual disappearance of the few Hebrews who remained in Palestine. Nevertheless, a tiny Jewish religious community had succeeded in surviving the collapse of the crusader state and the conquest of the country by the Mamalukes

and the invasion by the Mongol hordes. Over the following centuries, the Jewish population was somewhat replenished by a modest migratory flow of believers from different countries. At the end of the 18th century, a certain number of Hasidim emigrated from Russia. In the middle of the 19th century,

there were 12,000 Jews in Palestine, whereas at the end of the 11th century, there were 25,000. These Jewish towns in the land of Israel constituted what was called the yeshuv. All their inhabitants, men, were only studying Judaism and nothing else. They lived on halika, subsidies sent by Jewish communities in Europe. These funds were distributed by the rabbis, hence the absolute authority of the rabbis.

The leaders of the yeshuv rejected any attempt to create the country in the country, even an embryo of productive work of Jewish origin. They were studying exclusively the town, but nothing else. and on a fairly elementary level. The great Jewish historian Gretz, who visited Palestine in 1872, found that only a minority studied for real, the others preferred to stroll the streets, remained idle, engaged in gossip and slander. He believed that this system favors obscurantism, poverty and degeneration of the Jewish population of Palestine, and for this he himself had to undergo harem.

This is like the tenth time, maybe even more. that I've made a comment and the content of that comment shows up in the very next paragraph I haven't read this in years but that's exactly what I just said this group that predates the establishment of the state of Israel

basically in Jerusalem they're still there they study Talmud and absolutely nothing else and either of course today it's just welfare from the Israeli state but back then it was it was you know these donations from from uh jews abroad in eighteen eighty two in karkov palestinopal students founded the bilium circle they proposed to create in palestine a model agricultural colony

to set the tone to the general colonization of palestine by the jews they undertook to found circles in several cities of russia later they created a first settlement in palestine but were confronted to the hostility and opposition of the traditional yeshiv the rabbis demanded that according to ancient custom the cultivation of the earths be suspended one year out of seven i don't think i have to say it i don't think i have to say it but i might say it anyway them talking about a agricultural colony after everything we've gone over about the the free lands and everything that the russians gave gave the jews one of their first proposals is to engage in agriculture so long as it's on their terms and in what they consider their

promised land. And this confrontation right here that you just read, this is still going on. That's why most of the, you know, the more extreme, like Satmar and those groups in Brooklyn, Manhattan continue to oppose Zionism, far more than the press will admit. Pinsker supported the advocates of the return to Palestine. In 1887, he summoned the first Congress of Palestinians in Catovich, then in Druskinniki, and the second in 1887. Propagandists began to cover the palest settlement, speaking in synagogues and public meetings. Deutsch testified that after 1882, P. Akserot himself contributed to Palestinianophilia.

Of course, Smolenskin is one of the passion. Apostles of the return to Palestine. Bubbling and lively, he connects with Anglo-Jewish political actors, but he comes up with the opposition of the Alliance, who does not want to promote the colonization of Palestine, but rather to direct the migratory wave towards America. He then describes the tactics of the alliance as betrayal of the cause of the people. His premature death cuts his effort short. We note, however, that this movement towards Palestine was rather weakly received by the Jews or Russia. It was even thwarted.

The idea of a political revival of the Jewish people brought a small handful of intellectuals behind it at the time, and it soon came up against fierce adversaries. The conservative circles, the rabbinit, and the Zadikam saw in this current towards Palestine and attack on the divine will, an attack on faith in the Messiah who alone must bring the Jews back to Palestine. As for the progressive assimilationists, they saw in this current a reactionary desire to isolate the Jews from the rest of enlightened humanity. Well, I think we know that that's a bit of an exaggeration. I always thought, you know, Israel always seemed to be a distraction. The promised land, as far as Jews are concerned, is either Britain or the U.S., in a secular way.

The other option is, of course, New Khazardia, which I don't think can happen now. It's supposed to be in Crimea and in that region, but that's not going to happen either. But the Israeli situation is completely unsustainable. Enough Jews, you have a huge out migration of Jews going elsewhere. And so something else is going to have to happen. and the U.S. may get to be a victim of yet another migratory attack. But as far as Russia at the time was concerned, them assisting in the migration of Jews to the Middle East or wherever was probably the best option. But of course, we're saying this in 2025.

They didn't know what would happen, of course, way back then. The Jews of Europe did not support the movement either. Meanwhile, on site, the success of the return was revealed to be too mitigated. Many colonists discovered their incompetence in the work of the land. The ideal of rebirth of the ancient country was crumbling into petty acts of pure benevolence. The colonies survived only because of the subsidies sent by Baron Rothschild, and in the early 1890s, colonization went through. a serious crisis due to an anarchic system of land purchase and a decision by Turkey, the owner of Palestine, to ban the Jews of Russia from disembarking in Palestinian ports.

It was at this time that the publicist thinker and organizer Asher Ginsburg became known under the eloquent pseudonym of Ahad Ham, one of his people. That's the pronunciation for those who are just listening. the definition of Ahad Ham is one of his people for those just listening. He strongly criticized practical palestinophilia as it had been constituted. What he advocated was before striving for a renaissance on a territory to worry about a rebirth of hearts, an intellectual and moral improvement of the people, to instill at the center of Jewish life, a living and spiritual aspiration, a desire for national cohesion,

revival and free development in a national spirit, but on the basis of all, men. This will later be called spiritual Zionism, but not religious, and this is important. I think what he means is all Jews. He's not talking about every living person, but by intellectual and moral improvement, you chuckle at that, but then the next line gives the definition to be more Jewish, to be more cohesive, to be, have everything revolve around Jewishness. You know, Judaism has always been a secular matter, at least, you know, post-Kazardia. You know, the religious elements, to me, have always just been, you know, symbols of their national cohesiveness. So this was a firmly secular nationalist movement, which in and of itself, in my personal opinion, is not a terrible thing.

Of course, there are people living in Palestine at the time. I think every ethnic group understanding itself as such should have. have its own territory if it wants it. The problem with it, and I said this before too, and Rabbi Weiss used to say this all the time, in order for something like Israel to function, the state of Israel to function, there has to be plenty of Jews in at least one or two of the great powers to control its foreign policy to make sure that arms, weapons, money, support, media control. continues to flow to it.

Given the neighborhood that Israel's in, if it wasn't for a Soviet, then later British and American assistance, I don't know if the, I don't think it'd be in Israel at all. Without leaving a colony in different parts of the world, Israel as such, you know, which should give them an impression

that it's just not a viable or rational solution. Now, a simple, you know, like what Notary Carter wants, A Jewish community that lives in harmony with everyone around them doesn't want to exploit anybody. Of course, he's in a tiny minority. He's the one, by the way, who went to Iran for the Holocaust revisionist conference. He got 15 years ago now. So he had his synagogue burned down.

I've spoken at length to him about this stuff. But that's not what it is to be a Jew, unfortunately. spiritual Zionism is just to be separate, but within the country of origin, whatever country you're living in at the time. But I think that's all they mean by intellectual and moral improvement is to be more cohesive, Jewish interests above everything. That same year, 1889, in order to unite among them, those who were dear to the idea of the rebirth of national feeling, Ahad Ham founded a league, or as it is called, an order, but named Moisha, the sons of Moses, whose status resembled strongly those of the Masonic lodges. The applicant made the solemn promise of strictly executing all the demands of order.

The new members were initiated by a master, the big brother. The neophyte undertook to serve without reserve the ideal of national rebirth, even if there was little hope that this ideal would be realized anytime soon. It was stipulated in the manifesto of order that national consciousness takes precedence of religious consciousness, personal interests are subject to national interests, and it was recommended that a feeling of unreserved love for Judaism placed above all other objectives of the movement. Thus was prepared the ground for the reception of political Zionism of Herzl, of which Ahad Ham absolutely did not want.

He made several trips to Palestine. in 1891, 1893, and 1900. Regarding colonization, he denounced an anarchic character and an insufficient rootedness in tradition. He severely criticized the dictatorial conduct of Baron Rothschild's emissaries. Yeah, talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I'm not sure of which a hot-harm absolutely didn't want.

I guess because Herzl wanted the actual physical, like the transfer agreement where what's his name HOM was you know didn't think it was

proper for that but his movement it seems almost you know the Jews are so overorganized even if there's like 10 Jews in an area they have 50 organizations

they're the only group that has a large wealthy group that brings together all their organizations you know the what is it called in America

the Council of Jewish Organizations. That's how over-organized they are. But it seems that the Sons of Moses was really redundant. That's what it was to be Jewish. And this was a creation of a fanatical sect holding the broader society in which they live in contempt, to matter how wealthy they were to matter how well they did. But again, in and of itself, it's not a horrible thing. It's just that it comes at the expense of everyone else.

You know, it's a shame that many of our people can't think like this. This is how Zionism was born in Europe, a decade behind Russia. The first leader of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, had been, until the age of 36, he only lived to 44, a writer, a playwright, a journalist. He had never been interested in Jewish history or a fortiori in the Hebrew language and character. as a good Austrian liberal, he considered the aspirations of the various ethnic minorities of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to self-determination and national existence to be reactionary and found it normal to stifle them. Fanatical Jewish nationalists says it's terrible that other people be fanatical nationalists.

Sounds familiar. As Stefan Zieg writes, Herzl cherished a dream of seeing the Jews of Vienna enter the cathedral in order to be baptized, and seeing the Jewish question resolved once and for all by the fusion of Judaism and Christianity. But anti-Jewish sentimentist developed in Austria-Hungary in parallel with the rise of Pan-Germanism, while in Paris, where Herzl resided at the time, the Dreyfus affair broke out. Herzl had the opportunity to witness the public degradation of Captain Dreyfus, convinced of his innocence, he was deeply shaken and changed his course.

If separation is inevitable, he said, well, let it be radical. If we suffer from being without a country, let us build ourselves a homeland. Herzl then had a revelation. It was necessary to create a Jewish state. As if struck by lightning, Herzl was enlightened by this new idea. Anti-Semitism is not a fortuitous phenomenon subject to particular conditions. It is a permanent evil. It is the eternal companion of the eternal errant, and the only possible solution to

the Jewish question is a sovereign Jewish state. To conceive such a project after nearly 2,000 years of Diaspora was what imaginative power one needed, what exceptional audacity. However, according to S. Vig, Herzl's pamphlet entitled to Jewish State received from the Viennese bourgeoisie a welcome perplexed and irritated. What's gotten into this writer, so intelligent, so cultivated, and spiritual? Our language is German and not Hebrew. Our homeland, beautiful Austria, Herzl, does he not give our worst enemies arguments against us? He wants to isolate us. Consequently, Vienna abandoned him and laughed at him.

But the answer came to him from elsewhere. It burst forth like a thunderbolt so sudden, charged, with such a weight of passion and such ecstasy, that he was almost frightened to have awakened around the world a movement with his dozens of pages, a movement so powerful and through which he found himself overwhelmed. His answer did not come to him, it is true, from the Jews of the West, but from the formidable masses of the East. Herzl, with his pamphlet, had inflamed this nucleus of Judaism, which was smoldering under the ashes of the stranger. Michael Jones tells a story about Austria at the time.

The Rothschild dynasty financed their railroad expansion, roughly around this time. and of course the work was was grueling and that was a particularly nasty accident where a whole bunch of people were killed that was one of the first times that it became public knowledge that the Rothschilds not just in Austria but in Britain too were profiting massively off of this huge government contracts but of course doing none of the work and and making none of the sacrifices for the first time the Rothschild name became a huge problem. We're talking about maybe a little bit before this. He says the revolution of 1848 really derived from this very same problem. Maternick was essentially a son of the Rothschild. That's the only reason he was able to escape Vienna for a while. So from 1848 to this period of times, in 1880s, about 40 years, you know, groups like

the Christian Socialist Party developed. people became more and more educated about the Rothschild's Jewish banking, but just how privileged these people were. So it's no, you know, so that might be one of the reasons that Herzl said what he said. The Zionist moving as small as it was ever existed at all. But it always makes me laugh. They say, you know, our home is Vienna. Well, it's not really their home, but why are we going to ruin a good thing for a very difficult project that's going to require huge sacrifices financially and otherwise. So I think that might be the practical argument at the time against

Zionism in the Middle East. Henceforth, Herzl gives himself body and soul to his new idea. He breaks off with those closest to him. He only frequents the Jewish people. He who, even recently, despise politics, now founds a political movement. He introduces to it a spirit and a party discipline, forms a framework of a future army and transforms the Zionist Congresses into a true parliament of the Jewish people. At the first Congress of Basel in 1897, he produced a very strong impression on the Jews who were meeting for the first time in a parliamentary role,

and during his first speech, he was unanimously and enthusiastically proclaimed, leader and chief of the Zionist movement. He shows a consummate art to find the formulas of conciliation, and conversely, the one who criticized, his objective, or merely blame certain measures taken by him, that one is the enemy not only of Zionism, but of the entire Jewish people. The energetic writer Max Nordau, Sudefeld, supported him by expressing the idea that emancipation is fallacious, since it has introduced seeds of discord into the Jewish world. The emancipated Jew believes that he really has found a homeland when all that is living in vital in Judaism, which represents a Jewish ideal, the courage and the ability to advance. All that is none other than Zionism. Yeah, I think that's, again, another neurotic

exaggeration. I don't think there were a whole lot of Jews who actually believed that Austria or Germany or Russia or whatever was their homeland. They all had this sense that one day Antichrist will arrive and establish his empire in Jerusalem. This is a very important. This is precisely why they won't farm anywhere. And now even in Israel, they're not very good at it, but at least that was the first thing they did. They realized that's our soil, according to them. So now we can form the land, or at least trying to. So I think that's, I think they exaggerate what assimilation is or emancipation

is for the sake of justifying what they want to do. I also think that they're more thoughtful Jews realized, especially with the Rothschild scandals in, you know, around 1847, 1848, that there's going to be a reckoning. You know, Kimminski was always in the back of their mind.

You know, we are dominant group. We do have tremendous amount. We are taking the profit without doing any of the work in the Austrian Railroad. Maybe, they probably may not say this consciously, but maybe there is, you know, a reason why we are hated in certain places by

certain people and therefore Zionism might be a necessity. I don't know how much of that will be in their conscious thoughts because they can't take responsibility, but keep in mind too that despite the harsh language that Herschel used, he also said he understood why anti-Jewish feelings exist. You know, he called this terrible evil, but he realized we're aliens. we don't belong here. We don't think the same way these other people do. And so in a sense, he realized that that anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic feeling is, it's somewhat justified. That's why we have to get the hell out of here. At the first Congress, the delegates of Russian Zionism constituted

one-third of the participants, 66 out of 197. In the eyes of some, their presence could be regarded as a gesture of opposition to the Russian government. To Zionism had adhered. all of the Russian Kauvevi-Zion, thus contributing to the establishment of global Zionism. Thus, Zionism drew its strength from the communities of oppressed Jews in the East, having found only limited support among the Jews of Western Europe. But it also followed that the Russian Zionist represented for Herzl, a most serious opponent. Ahat-Ham waged a fierce struggle against Herzl's political Zionism, alongside the majority the Palestinians, strongly criticizing the pragmatism of Herzl and Nordau,

and denouncing what he called their indifference to the spiritual values of Judaic culture and tradition. He found Chimerick the hope of political Zionism to found an autonomous Jewish state in the near future. He regarded all this movement as extremely detrimental to the cause of the spiritual rebirth of the nation. They do not care about the salvation of Judaism in perdition because, they care nothing about spiritual and cultural heritage. They aspire not to the rebirth of the ancient nation, but to the creation of a new people from the dispersed particles of ancient matter. If he uses and even emphasizes the word Judaism, it is almost evident that it is not in the sense of the Judaic religion, but in the sense of the spiritual system inherited from

ancestors. The Jewish encyclopedia tells us that Ahad Ham, that in the 70s, he was more and more imbued with rationalism and deviated from religion. If the only vocation for Palestine is to become the spiritual center that could unite by national and spiritual ties, the dispersed nations, a center which would pour out its light on the Jews of the world, of the whole world, would create a new spiritual bond between the scattered members of the people. It would be a less state of the Jews than an elite spiritual community. Yeah, in their mind, of course, It's one and the same. They are elite.

And by spiritual, of course, they mean something completely different. For people who know the Kabbalah, I'm pretty sure, just in these few lines that he was quoted, Ham was quoted, there's at least three or four references to it. Dispersed particles of ancient matter, pour out its light. These are all directly taken from the Kabbalah. But I guess this is, this is, we're starting to see a political, an ethnic manifestation of Tikuna Lam. An elite spiritual community, of course, are Jews who can rule over everyone else who then works for them because, you know, Christians are idolaters, and therefore they have no rights, they have no standing. So I think it's a false dichotomy, but there may be a bit of an opposition here. at least, at least practically between the Kabbalah and the Talmud.

Ultimately, it's not really in opposition, but it depends on what you stress. You know, he is a rationalist, and he sees Jews as a race that just for that reason deserves to be preserved and have it be the fanatical core of people who support it. But you notice how he has state, in the near future italicized.

And that's true. He's not against political Zionism. It's just it's not going to happen anytime soon. They needed Hitler for that. Discussions agitated the Zionists. Ahad Ham strongly criticized Herzl, whom Nordau, supported by accusing Ahad Ham of covert Zionists. World Zionist congresses were held every year. In 1902, took place the one of the Russian Zionists in Minsk, and the discussions resumed.

This is where Ad Ha'ad Ham read his famous exposition, a spiritual rebirth. Zionism no longer met with enmity from the outside. Herzl expected this as soon as the program of the Zionists would take a concrete form, and as soon as the real departure to Palestine began, anti-Semitism everywhere would end. But long before this result was reached, stronger than others, the voice of those who feared that the taking a public position and the nationalist sense of an assimilated Jew would give anti-Semites the opportunity to say that every assimilated Jew hides under his mask and authentic Jew, and capable of blending

into the local population. And as soon as an independent state was created, the Jews went everywhere to be suspected and accused of civic disloyalty, ideological isolationism, which their enemies had always suspected and accused them of. It doesn't take a separate state for them to be, you know, disloyal. They didn't like the societies in which they lived. They were, they did have ideological isolationism. And this, you know, this assimilated Jew hides under the mask of an authentic Jew. The words here are very interesting.

you can be both assimilated and authentic, but it just depends on how you define those words. And I have the feeling these debates at the time, right up until World War I, had a lot to do with how they're defining these very terms. In reply, at the Second Zionist Congress 1898, Nordau declared, we reject with disdain the name of party.

The Zionists are not a party. They are the Jewish people themselves. those who, on the contrary, are at ease in servitude and contempt, they keep themselves carefully apart unless they fight us fiercely. As one English historian observes, yes, Zionism has done a great service to the Jews by restoring them a sense of dignity, and yet it leaves unresolved the question of their attitude towards the countries in which they live. In Austria, a compatriot of Herzl, Otto Veninger, argued with him,

Zionism and Judaism are incompatible with the fact that Zionism intends to force the Jews to take upon themselves the responsibility of a state of their own, which contradicts the very essence of every Jew. And he predicted the failure of Zionism. When I first read that years ago, it made me laugh that the sacrifices are too much financially. We want to take advantage of an already established state. We don't have to follow its laws or anything. We could profit heavily from an order. But if we have to create a state of our own, that's going to be way too much work.

I think that's a very funny. And then he goes so far as I say, it's the essence of the Jew to live that way. I think it's, I think that was very funny when I first, when I first read it, that it's just too much work, too much responsibility.

We're doing well here, taking advantage of everybody else. In Russia in 1890, I am Beekerman argued strongly against science, Zionism as an idea deemed quacky, inspired by anti-Semitism, of reactionary inspiration and harmful by nature. It is necessary to reject the illusions of the Zionists and without, in any way, renouncing the spiritual particularism of the Jews, struggle hand in hand with the cultural and progressive forces of Russia in the name of regeneration of the common fatherland.

At the beginning of the century, the poet N. Minsky had issued this criticism. Zionism marks the loss of the notion of universal man. It lowers the cosmopolitan dimensions, the universal vocation of Judaism to the level of an ordinary nationalism. The Zionists, speaking tirelessly of nationalism, turn away from the genuinely national face of Judaism and, in fact, seek only to be like everyone else, not worse than others.

Of course, you know, they see their nation as the first nation and superior in every way to everyone around it. You know, their spirit, everyone else is matter to be just one nation among others. But he seems to think that Zionism requires every Jew in the world to move to the Middle East. We know that Israel can never have functioned that way. This isn't an ordinary nationalism.

The universal man is Adam Cadman. It is the end of days. and the only place that that could take place, of course, is in Jerusalem. Again, all of this seems to be based on the timing that it hasn't, the right time hasn't occurred yet. This isn't a good time. But, of course, later on, before World War I, which, of course, they couldn't, didn't know about World War II, definitely. Then you're going to start, and they didn't have much support at this point. For them to say that we are the Jewish people is ridiculous.

They were a minority of Jews. all over Europe. It is interesting to compare these sentences with remark made before the revolution by the Orthodox thinker S. Bugakov. The biggest difficulty for Zionism is that it is not able to recover the lost faith of the fathers, and it is obliged to rely on a principle that is either national, cultural, or ethnic, a principle on which no genuine great nation can rely exclusively. But the first Russian Zionists now, now it is from Russia that most of the founders of the state of Israel and the pioneers of the state of Israel came out, and it was in Russia that were written, the best pages of Zionist journalism, were filled with an irrepressible enthusiasm for the idea of returning to their people, the lost homeland, the ancient land of the Bible and their ancestors to create a state of unparalleled quality and to have men of exception.

quality grow there and this impulse this call addressed to all to return to physical work the work of the earth does not this appeal echo the exhortations of tolstoy the doctrine of asceticism all streams leads all streams lead to the sea that goes right back to to to uh um what's his name saying that founding your own state is way too difficult. It's way too much responsibility. And if there are only Jews here, who are we going to take advantage of? You know, we'll start slaughtering each other. I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that especially in Western Europe, Jews

were dominant. They were doing extremely well. But they had to have known at some level, maybe a subconscious level, that that is what it was going to cause an explosion like Kimunitsky. Kilnitsky is a huge part of, especially Eastern Europe, the Jewish mind. The pogroms kind of took over, of course, the Hitler took over after that, kind of outshone Kim Mniewski, but that that's always on its way because of what we do. I think this is a constant part of the Jewish subconscious, and it's part of what makes them

very neurotic people. All right. We have a natural break there. So we'll pick up the rest of this chapter on the next episode. As I do at the end of every episode, I encourage people to go to the show notes on this, YouTube, Rumble, Odyssey. And there are links to where you can donate to Dr. Johnson there to keep him working. And as I always say, to keep him unemployed. so he can keep us educated.

Thank you. No problem. I will see you in a couple days. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. Bye, bye. I want to welcome everyone back to episode 26 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenysohn. How are you done, Dr. Johnson? I'm doing well.

The weather is back to normal around here, like 50 degrees, so I'm in a much better mood than I normally would be. I'm not looking forward to late spring, though. We're at that point where it's 70 degrees during the day and getting down to 35 at night. So that fun time where you have the AC on during the day and you may have a space heater at night. What a life. All right. Picking up where we left off in episode 25, we're talking about the rise of Zionism. But in the final analysis, how can a Zionist behave toward the country in which he resides

for the time being? For the Russian Zionists who devoted all their strength to the Palestinian dream, it was necessary to exclude themselves from the affairs that agitated Russia as such. Their statutes stipulated do not engage in politics, neither internal nor external. They could only weakly, without conviction, take part in the struggle for equal rights in Russia. As for participating in the National Liberation Movement, but that would be pulling the chestnuts out of the fire for the others. Doesn't that sound great? You know, unfortunately, they were a small minority at the time,

both in Russia and in Germany. But this was the initial conception of Zionism that we're going to be as neutral as humanly possible. There is no point in subverting these countries anymore. since we're going to be leaving them. It's no wonder why groups like the Union of the Russian people, the Christian Socialist Party in Austria, really, you know, took to Zionism.

It seemed to be a perfectly humane, rational, and intelligent way out. If they had more members, if they had a greater support, I think our history would be a lot different. And I think it's also interesting that the Rothschilds family, Sassoons, et cetera, all their interrelated webs of domination were financing both sides. I mean, clearly, they weren't in contradiction to each other.

I know they used to get angry at Rothschild for, you know, favoring one over the other. But, and you notice in their work at this stage, very early stage in Zionism, they don't seem to notice that people live there. you know, they just talk about moving there as if this is going to be no problem. But it was only later that they came to realize we need outside support. I mean, we can't depend on Rothschild for everything. You know, and so that means they had to be,

and the anti-Zionist Jews noticed this pretty quickly, that we have to be involved in politics, if for no other reason, then to make sure that the aid and the assistance and the weapons, whatever else they need, continues to flow. That also implies they have to dominate the foreign policy of at least some of the more powerful states. But at this stage, this sounds wonderful. Just be good neighbors. We're going to be leaving. No point in angering anybody. But unfortunately, they were a small

minority. Such tactics, Drew Jabotinsky's fiery reproaches. Even passing travelers have an interest in the inn being clean and tidy. And then in what language should the Zionists display their propaganda. They did not know Hebrew in any way who would have understood it. Consequently, either in Yiddish, either in Russian or in Yiddish. And this brought closer once more the radicals of Russia and the Jewish revolutionaries. Evidently, the Jewish revolutionary youth jousted with the Zionists. No one know. The solution of the Jewish question does not lie in the departure out of Russia. It is in the political fight for equal rights here. Instead of going to settle far beyond the seas, we must make use of the possibility of affirming ourselves here in this country.

And their arguments could not avoid shaking more than one by their clarity. In the Bolshevik circles, the Zionists were denounced as reactionary. They were treated as the party of the darkest, most desperate pessimism. Well, the Bolsheviks were a heavily Jewish party at this point. We've already gone over that. they say pessimism because at this stage it takes a lot of optimism to believe that despite your small numbers

you're going to be able to subvert entire empires Christian empires which of course they succeeded in doing even prior to Zionism coming to fruition in 1948 so if you're a if you knew about the Jewish question at the time living in Europe clearly you're going to

favor the Zionist argument. Now, later on, that changed under Stalin. And you could understand why people like, you know, Lenin would think that it's a bad idea. You know, one of the proofs that the Jews ran these communist countries is once Israel was founded initially by Stalin, I think, Remico, at the UN, you had a lot of Jews who wanted to go. but that meant the party was going to be losing

all of these central members the bureaucracy was going to be losing all of these members Romania had a huge problem with it so there's no denying that these were Jewish entities if they were so worried about Jews wanting to leave to go to Israel but it wasn't really until the 1970s I recently did a show on this

that the Jews separated from the USSR and favored the Zionist option over the revolutionary one for a whole bunch of different reasons. But it's understandable why the Zionists and the communists would be at odds. Inevitably, intermediate currents were to emerge. Thus, the Zionist party of the left, Poelae-Sion, workers of Zion, it was in Russia that it was founded in 1890. combined socialist ideology with political Zionism. It was an attempt to find a median line between those concerned exclusively with class

problems and those concerned only with national problems. Profound disagreements existed within Poli-Zion on the question of participation in revolutionary action in Russia. And the revolutionaries themselves were divided, some leading toward the social Democrats and other toward the social revolutionaries. Other Sarai-Syan groups, ideologically close to non-Marxist socialist Zionism, began to form from 1905 onwards. In 1904, a split with Paoli-Zion gave birth to a new party, the socialist Zionists, breaking with the ideal of Palestine. The extension of Yiddish has a spoken language to all Jewish masses, this is quite sufficient, and we scorn the idea of national autonomy.

Zionism begins to take on a bourgeois and reactionary tint. What is needed is to create from it a socialist movement to awaken revolutionary political instincts in the Jewish masses. The party strongly supported the social and economic content of Zionism, but denied the need to revive the land of Judea, culture, Hebrew traditions. Granted, Jewish emigration is too chaotic. It must be oriented toward a specific territory, but there is no essential link between Zionism and Palestine. The Hebrew state must be based on socialist and non-capitalist foundations. Such an emigration is a long-term historical process. The bulk of the Jewish masses will remain well into the future in their current places of residence.

The party has approved the participation of the Jews in the political struggle in Russia. That is to say, is the struggle for their rights in this country. As for Judaism and faith, they despise them. well just as Zionism was a small minority at this point a Jew who believes in God then and now is very very hard to find or they define God in such a bizarre way they use the term deliberately to fool people but it's the end self in the in the Kabbalah but when you know the first generation in 1948 they were indebted to the USSR and so things like the kibbutzim were done on on socialist models i've seen pictures of these with pictures of Stalin up and it was really they were they stayed up for for a long time um the so-called class concern and the national concern really weren't all that different i think moses was probably the best known guy to combine them generation earlier

for talking about the early 20th century but given everything that we've learned about the Jews' relationship to agriculture they ended up once the initial war was over

relying on Arab labor for the actual hands-on work in the fields I don't think they really ever even in Israel itself despite the mythology ever really became farmers, agriculturist. I mean, for the most part, they were growing oranges and grapes and things like that. It wasn't like they were growing wheat, very different, you know, vineiculture,

more than actual your typical agriculture that we think of as agriculture. But it seems like they're talking here of a solution where Jews can stay just long enough to destroy the country and then possibly leave, or have a group that leaves and a group that stays behind, which is exactly ultimately what happened. The problem, I think, that many Jews had, and it wasn't, whether it was spoken or not, I don't know, and certainly not so blatantly, is if there's a state, which is 100% Jewish, the only way they can exploit others is outside the country. What are they going to do if there's no Gentile?

around and if you know anything about Jewish history especially modern Jewish history they'll kill each other even within their different factions they'll kill each other but it's true initially Israel was founded as a socialist state and because of these security issues it is a completely statist economy that relies on external assistance you know from its very existence so in many ways it doesn't matter how the economy is organized It's suffering very badly now, but it is a state-run, if not an entirely state-owned economy, because everything has to be geared towards the security issues. All this mishmash had to generate a socialist Jewish group called Renaissance,

which believe the national factor is progressive by nature. And in 1906, the members of this group who had broken with the Zionist Socialist Party constituted the Soviet Socialist Workers Party, the Serp. They were called Serpoevish or Semoyevich, for they demanded the election of a Jewish national Shem, same, intended to be the supreme organ of Jewish national self-government. For them, Russian and Hebrew were, in their capacity of languages of use, equal. And by advocating autonomism within the Russian state, the Serp, socialist, was distinguished from the Bund, also socialist. In spite of the disagreements that divided the Zionists among themselves, a general shift of Zionism towards socialism took place in Russia, which attracted the attention of the Russian government.

Until then, it had not interfered with Zionist propaganda, but in 1903, Interior Minister Plev addressed the governors of the provinces and to the mayors of the big cities, a bulletin stating that the Zionists had relegated to the background the idea of leaving Palestine and had concentrated on the organization of Jewish life in their places. of residence, that such direction could not be tolerated, and that consequently any public propaganda in favor of Zionism would now be prohibited, as well as meetings, conferences, etc. Plyv was very much aware of the Jewish question. He was a target of assassination many times. it doesn't the way that we define Zionism we usually define it as this national movement for Jews to leave the countries that they live in the so-called exile and they go to the

Middle East as if they have any connection over there they do not but that's that's what we think of it as this is an odd again this is very early this is an odd way to think of it they're thinking that that we can build whatever that was right here wherever we live and I'm very tempted to say that sounds like Kazadia because a huge portion of Russia's Jews lived I mean the pale of settlement essentially is not entirely of course it's so big but it does include within itself

the northern part of the Kaza Empire to think that Jews were ignorant of this you know I have a I have a big problem with it but as far as appealing to Western audiences then and now, this notion that they're the people of the Old Testament was very important in getting Gentile support. But the very fact that they didn't know Hebrew, that they had this strange post-Kazars, Yiddish, you know,

Turkic German mess of a language. I think Germans used to call it gutter German, but it had pieces of everything. I think mostly it's a Turkic language, as the initial Khazars were. shows that they had absolutely no right to go back there. And that the group of people who agreed with that statement or the Orthodox still in Jerusalem

who wanted nothing to do with Zionism for a whole bunch of reasons. Clearly, they didn't interfere with Zionist propaganda because it offered a solution, a solution that should have been considered years earlier. But it doesn't make sense to us today to think of Zionism as something that you can do right wherever you live. No, there has to be a connection between Khazdia and this version of Zionism,

which, of course, we know now is pretty essential, although I think Putin spoiled that party pretty badly. But there are sometimes I do think that places like New York or the U.S., Britain, that these are really the promised land as far as. the Jews were concerned. But there was a whole faction today, Kolomoisky, I've talked about this until I'm blue in the face, of using Rabbi Schneerson, the so-called Messiah,

to build new Qazdia in Ukraine and have that be the true homeland of the Jews, prior to the war, of course. I have a paper out on this. I've spoken of this of great length. that Schneerson was the centerpiece of this new variation of Zionism. That's why Kolomoisky built this massive, the largest Jewish structure, the biggest synagogue, the Venice Cultural Center in the world in Dnieper, in eastern Ukraine. Again, irrelevant now, especially since Komoisky is arrested and he lost his citizenship. whatever happens with that in the future, I don't know.

But it does seem odd to it. Pliv was well aware of what was happening. And the last thing he wanted to see was Jewish nationalism, socialist or otherwise, being built in the Russian Empire. He was well aware of what that would lead to. He had no problem with it when it meant, oh my God, they're going to leave Russia. that's why they didn't interfere with it but this again as an early stage

they were still working out some of the kinks but given today in 2025 the position of Israel is very precarious and Netanyahu has done a lot of damage to the entire idea but despite the fact that Ukraine has been depopulated in certain areas

the idea of Nukuzadia while it still exists isn't as attractive as it used to be. Remember, when Zelensky was first installed by the U.S. as president in 2019, people who know me, know my work, I have this on Patreon and a few other places. In his inaugural address,

he talked about building that Ukraine is going to be a what he called big Israel. What he meant was it's going to be a security state that exists pretty much as the Israelis do. I know what that really means. It's a version of New Kazadia

that there's going to be the entire thing would be a totalitarian. He even said there's going to be armed guards in the grocery store and in the movie theater. The only reason that he would even think of that, and he said that in public, is that he knows that his Jewish millionaires, billionaires, who run that country,

they're in serious trouble. They're losing. This, of course, was prior to the war. and the only way that they could hold on the power is to create this totalitarian security state the Atlantic Council, which is essentially the research arm of NATO, even came out with a roadmap of how this could be done written by what's his name Spiro from

who was the ambassador to Israel under Obama. So there's versions of this that are still around. I guess you could call that a form of Zionism, but I think it's more accurate to call it Nucosadia. And I think that this is a very early version of that right here. Made aware of this, Herzl, who had already solicited an audience with Nicholas II in 1899, went immediately to St. Petersburg to ask to be received by Plyv. It was just after the Kishinev program, which occurred in the spring, of which Pliv had been

strongly accused, and which had therefore attracted him the blame and invectives of the Russian Zionists. Plev made Herzl understand, according to the latter's notes, that the Jewish question for Russia is grave, if not vital, and we endeavor to solve it correctly. The Russian state wishes to have a homogenous population, and it demands a patriotic attitude from all. We want to assimilate, but assimilation is slow. I am not the enemy of the Jews. I know them well. I spent my youth in Warsaw, and as a child, I also played with Jewish children. I would very much like to do something for them. I do not want to deny that the situation of the Jews in Russia is not a happy one. If I were a Jew, I too would probably be an opponent of the government. The formation of a Jewish state accommodating several million immigrants would be extremely desirable for us. That does not mean, however, that we want to lose all our Jewish citizens. Educated and wealthy people, we would gladly keep them. The destitute without education, we would gladly let them go. We had nothing against Zionism as long as it preached emigration, but now we note great changes in its goals. The Russian government sees with a kindly

eye the immigration of Zionists to Palestine, and if the Zionists return to their initial plans, they are ready to support them in the face of the Ottoman Empire. But it cannot tolerate the propagation of Zionism, which advocates a separatism of national inspiration within Russia itself. This would entail the formation of groups of citizens to whom patriotism, which is the very foundation of the state, would be foreign. According to N.D. Lubimov, who was then director of the minister's cabinet, Plev told him that Herzl, during the interview, had recognized that Western bankers were helping the revolutionary parties of Russia. Zliosberg, however, thinks that this is unlikely.

All right. Let me try to unpack a little bit of this here. Keep in mind that this isn't a word-for-word recitation. These are notes that Herschel took at the time. The Russian state wishes to have a homogenous population. That's the key phrase. You can't have nationalist Jews or Jews being Jews really in any way. way and have it make sense, have it become a part of anything homogenous.

Plev is not the enemy of the Jews, and he's right and everything he said here. I don't know what he means, and I have the feeling that he's being misquoted, that, oh, we know how miserable they are. And I guess he's talking about the pogrom, which, of course, was not provoked either by the state or by Russians. I don't know, and I don't believe for a minute, he said that, oh, yeah, I would be against the government, too. But, of course, the other key phrase is the formation of a Jewish state with several million immigrants would be extremely desirable for us. Extremely desirable.

Well, that's an understatement, of course. I think, though, assuming he actually said this, it's very naive of him to think, well, the wealthy ones can stay. Well, that's exactly the problem. He was still under the impression, well, what wealthy Jew can be a revolutionary, having no idea that connection. I mean, it took a while for a lot of people to realize that the class was nonsense. They didn't care about the poor. We talked about the proletarian and why they chose that group of people had nothing to do with making their lives better. but it almost didn't seem to be a necessity of him to say,

well, we can't have a national group building a national life in Russia. And in the process, he's actually saying, well, because you're hostile. You've always been hostile. I know what we have done. And consider how history would have been different if Russia would have intervened with the Ottoman Empire, which at this point it had defeated many times in battle. and convince them to carve out a peace for Jewish immigration. And I'm not really sure what the Zionists were talking about,

separatism within Russia itself. I don't know if they meant the pale of settlement. You know what Stalin tried to do with Bit of Biz done. I have a paper on that too. You know, a thousand other fantasy projects that leaders had come up with, Jews and otherwise. I don't know about this last comment here in the parentheses. Plyv, I think eventually came to know that the Western bankers were helping revolutionary parties.

I'm not 100% sure. But if it is true, then that would make his entire, you know, wealthy Jews can't be revolutionaries or can't be enemies. utter nonsense. So I think, you know, given what I know about Plyv, I don't believe a lot of this is 100% accurate. But those two key phrases, a homogenous population, which is the only way any society could function,

and that it would be very desirable for Jews to leave. The wealthy ones, I don't know. I don't know if that was an aside. I don't know really what he, I would like to have seen him expand on that. Keep in mind, these are Herzl's notes taken, probably after the fact. And so you could do what you want with this, but this is not a word-for-word recitation at all. Plythe made his report to the emperor. The report was approved, and Herzl received a letter of confirmation in the same vein.

He felt that his visit to Plev had been a success. neither of them suspected that they had only 11 months left to live. Yeah, Plyiv was murdered by Jewish revolutionaries. Turkey had no intention of making any concessions to the Zionists, and the British government in that same year of 1905 proposed that not Palestine, but Uganda, be colonized. In August 1903 at the 6th Congress of the Zionists in Basel, Herzl was the spokesman for this variant, which of course is not Zion but which could be accepted

on a provisional basis in order for a Jewish state to be created as quickly as possible all the top of my head I don't know why Uganda was considered of course it was a British colony what was special about it where that would be a place that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

and there's a lot of resources there I've heard this before I never got into it in depth, but of all the British colonies, Uganda, I'm not, I'm still a little foggy as to why there. This project provoked stormy debates. It seems that it met with some support in the issue of for new immigrants discouraged by the harsh living conditions in Palestine.

The Russian Zionists, who claimed to have more than all the need to quickly find a refuge, fiercely opposed a project, headed by M. M. Ushilkeen, founder of the Billiam group and later the right-hand man of a hot ham of the B'nai Mojshel League, they recalled that Zionism was inseparable from Zion and that nothing could replace it. I'm not sure exactly how many Jews really believe that. How many Jews believe that there's this perfect genetic and religious generation to generation, from King David to these Jews speaking Yiddish in Russia. I have no way of knowing that.

No one has any way of knowing that. There's a lot of reasons why that part of the world would be. It's very strategic. There's a part of me that says, I think this is how they're going to appeal to Gentiles. You know, we are the people of the Old Testament. This was at a time where the new Protestant translations of the Bible were coming out. Many of you know what I'm talking about.

That suggested, Schofield is what I'm talking about, which I believe is a 19th century production. And that was gaining ground amongst Protestants, of course, in Britain and the U.S., at least in English-speaking countries. It's such a simple and simplistic and superficial way to understand the chances of that, either theologically or ethnically or ethnically. They would be so inbred by that point. There's no way that could be. We know the foreign racial elements that came from both Babylonia and then their move north to Khazadia. Very different group of people in both senses of the term. They were, theologically, they had abandoned the Old Testament pretty much, you know,

they adopted the magical and mystical ideas. The Talmud was written. the Old Testament was history, but I think the same goes for ethnicity. So I think maybe Zion itself was simply a part of their self-delusion and propaganda, plus the fact that it was a very important part of the world, and to colonize it would be economically significant. Which one dominated the minds of these people. There's no way of knowing, but what

percentage of Jews actually believed that they really were the descendants of David and Solomon, there's no way to know, but I think it's an interesting question anyway. Congress nevertheless constituted a commission to travel to Uganda to study the land. The seventh Congress in 1905 heard its report, and the Ugandan variant was rejected. Overcome by all these obstacles, Herzl succumbed to a heart attack before he knew the final decision. But this new dilemma provoked a new rupture in Zionism.

They split the so-called territorialists, led by Israel Zangville, to which joined the English delegates. They established their International Council. The latter held its meetings, receiving subsidies from Jacob Schiff and Baron Rothschild. They had given up demanding Palestine and nothing else. Yes, it was necessary to carry out a mass colonization by the Jews, but wherever it was. Year after year in their research, they reviewed a dozen countries. They almost selected Angola, but Portugal is too weak. It will not be able to defend the Jews,

and therefore the Jews risk becoming the victims of the neighboring tribes. The Angola option doesn't get a lot of press. When I wrote my paper on Stalin's Bidobisdan project, I'm the very first one to realize why this project was chosen, where it was. I found in a Russian mining journal roughly around this time, maybe a little bit later, maybe in the 20s, as well as some mining company in Alaska

had come to the conclusion that there was a huge gold vein precisely in that part of the Russian far east on the Chinese border where Bilibistan is. and I think that's probably why even though Christianity was illegal in USSR they still couldn't stand being with Gentiles and so they needed this state now it turns out that once the mining companies moved in

it was nothing what they thought it would be these forecasts were simply incorrect no one has mentioned that before I was the first one to mention it first one to find it. But that's why these weird places, what the hell is going through their minds? So I'm thinking the exact same thing is happening either in Angola or Uganda. There's something that they think that was there, whether it be in the mining department or slave labor, whatever they thought would benefit them in some way. Good of Bizdon, I think, is very clear now that, you know, they would be monopolizing.

Soviet Union had tremendous gold reserves, but. If this was going to be the biggest vein ever, which people were talking about, both in Russia and in the U.S., then they would be the mediators of this gold production. God knows, using slave labor, probably prison labor, to do it. There is a mine there to this very day, but it's very small. I think the Chinese own it. So these aren't random places. I simply don't know off the top of my head what they thought was in Uganda or in Angola of all places. you know, so far away from everything.

And I love the assumption that, you know, okay, we're going to move in there, but, you know, the colonial master, you better, you better, you know, protect us because no one likes us. At this point, Portugal was in no position to do much of anything in that part of the world. And it's so obscure and so far from everything unless there's some connection with South Africa. And the gold diamond mines there. I don't want to speculate, but Angola is fairly close by.

So that might have something to do with it. But they seem to be random, weird places. But I think if we look deeper, they really aren't. But given the publication of the Schofield Bible and all this stuff, there was something about, and plus their own mythology, their self-identification, even if they're totally secular. And these were all completely secular movements. There was something about Middle East, and keep in mind, as I mentioned before, there were many Orthodox Jews living in Jerusalem, who, by the way, wanted nothing to do with Israel then and now.

So, and these people were Talmudis, Kabbalists, whatever. So even they had no real connection with the Old Testament despite living in that city. So that's my take on these weird places. there were other options I know I've heard of. I remember I had a long conversation with Michael Collins Piper four guy years ago about this. He had discovered a few others equally bizarre and obscure, one in Latin America.

I don't remember now, but there was something there. You know, they wouldn't have chosen these. They didn't like throw a dart at a map. But I also think it's interesting that Schiff and Rothschild were financing both the revolutionaries and the Zionists in their minds they didn't see

much of a difference and I think that's that's you know it didn't occur to me immediately but both groups and for the most part

I think the communist at the time the communist stereotype was that your Zionist was non-communists but were nationalists as if you know

those two things in the Jewish world are not mutually exclusive but they may think they are even today they call the Jewish nationalists in Israel, you know, Jewish fascists, whatever it is. And therefore, you know, we have to stop them because these were Jewish movements,

financed by Jewish billionaires. And, you know, and apparently killing Plyv was a terrible idea and ended up harming them to a great extent because I think what Hurtl heard was probably correct you know a lot of us you know we're not enemies we don't like what they do

they deserve to be away and in a place where they can't exploit anybody and until that happens there's going to be a huge problem so in other words he's talking about it as a personal issue he's not the enemy

politically religiously okay maybe he is of course you have to be an enemy at the Talmud. He talks about his personal experience. This isn't a personal matter. This is an aggregate matter. This is about ethnicity. This is about a group, not about people. And this was one of the healthier aspects of Churchill's approach because he realized. He said, this isn't going to be solved. We don't belong here. We don't, you know, people hate us, and that's terrible. But that's because we don't belong here. We're aliens.

Being a secular Jew, he didn't worry so much about the theological elements of exile. We have to get out of here. But what makes the most sense is to claim that we have this connection to Jerusalem, that part of the Middle East, and have that be the core goal. And, of course, things got complicated after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. And then the British occupation, Jewish terrorism, after that. And it was really only the first, the initial foundation from Stalin, and then making a much better deal with the U.S. later that it was ever able to work, although maybe, and I'm

saying that maybe we're seeing the end of that. You have huge Jewish outmigration from Israel right now. The Jewish security forces are so overstretched. They were overstretched to begin with. now Netanyahu wants to take whole chunks of Syria and colonize that I mean how many Jews are available for this kind of thing the Jewish military hasn't won anything there so these other ideas may possibly

become relevant again I'm assuming these Jews are going either to England or to the U.S. where they dominate completely and and also keep in mind that with Pleve he also has to worry about the British. The British were completely Rothschild dominated at the time. He was aware of this. He could not appear to be a direct enemy of the Jews, lest he had to deal with the British Empire.

And that was hostile enough, especially in Central Asia. So they were even ready to accept territory within Russia, even if they could create an autonomous entity with an independent administration. This argument, a strong country must be able to defend immigrants on the premises of their new residents reinforced those who insisted on the need to quickly establish an independent state capable of hosting mass immigration. This was suggested, and would suggest later, Max Nordau, when he said that he was not afraid of the economic unpreparedness of the country that is of Palestine for the reception of newcomers. However, for this, it was necessary to be to beget the better of Turkey and also find a solution to the Arab problem. The adherence of this program understood that in order to implement it, it was necessary to have recourse to the assistance of powerful allies. Now this assistance, no country for the moment, proposed it.

To arrive at the creation of the state of Israel, we must go through two more World Wars. Yeah, the Arab problem. Finally, they're mentioned here. I've read a lot of this Zionist stuff and proto-Zionist stuff in Russian and the fact that there's people living there doesn't really seem to occur to them very often. It's true that wherever they pick,

it's going to be a huge problem. Bit of Bizdon. I mean, that's like a, I don't know how many hours it is to get out there. It's like 10 time zones with almost nothing. tiny little town at the time. It was extremely difficult to establish anything. The same thing goes for Israel, who we know is the state of Israel today, or Angola or Uganda. This may have something to do with the fact that it was a minority of faith at the time. But I think Russia at

the time may have been in a position to speak to the Ottoman Empire about this. The Turkish Empire had very strong Jewish influences at the upper levels from its very inception the conquest of Constantinople and then right up until its collapse elite Greeks and Jews ran its

finances, ran its medicine the Fannar district in Istanbul was this very alienated group of people Jews did very well in the Turkish Empire so I can imagine

to them coming, you know, going to Jews and Turkey saying, why are we going to move? Same thing for Russia. Despite their exaggerated mythology of the pogrom, Jews were doing well there. That's why I don't believe actually Plyv said that statement. This doesn't make any sense. I think that was

strictly his later additions to this alleged conversation. But you notice something else. It can't be a mass exodus because we need recourse to the assistance of powerful allies in other words i don't care if you have schiff and rostrild in your corner you're building something out of nothing jews who are used to a very different life especially a life really where they don't work very much now they're going into the middle of nowhere but might as well be the middle of nowhere and building a state surrounded

wherever they go by hostile groups yeah yeah the Jews found a solution to the Arab problem all right and there's a few Jewish authors who talk about the poisoning of the wells the use of poison gas in the first the wars of 47, 48, 49

to drive the Arabs out some of the worst abuses you can imagine so yeah that I guess was a solution I don't know how things things would have been if the Ottoman Empire remained. But by World War I, you know, the Ottomans, you know, didn't do very well. The Russians knocked him out of the war very quickly, just like Austria. I think it was led by Germans for the most part at the time.

And it was going to collapse, you know, shortly thereafter. So now Jews don't really have a reason to be a part. I mean, they were a part of the new Jewish, Turkish state too. that were part of the genocide and everything else but it was a lot to ask you know we've spent what the last 166 pages talking about the Jews won't work

the last thing they're going to do is plant crops that's for that's for underlings we're the aristocrats of the world we don't do that we're the mediators of the world as I used to say we don't do stuff like that so not only you know the Arab problem you can't just slaughter them all although that certainly was a consideration,

you need them to work. Wherever you go, Ugandan's Angolan, can you imagine the various tribes there, you know, we need them to work because we're not going to do it. And Herzl,

he had to have been aware of that fact. That even in what they call the promised land, they're not going to, you know, they're not used to working with their hands at all, but that's the nuts and bolts of building a society out of nothing.

That's absolutely essential. I don't care how much money have. You didn't have the mentality, the ethnic mentality to do anything about it. It eventually worked, of course, to a great extent, but it came out of warfare more than anything else. So, you see the last line of that paragraph, we need powerful allies, but no country at the moment proposed it. Well, that will change with Joseph Stalin. we have a few minutes here you you mentioned the schofield bible um there's a certain section on the right you know what would call themselves you know the dissident right um

whatever emerged out of the alt right who say the scofield bible had nothing to do with this two thousand years ago there was a crucified kike and a bunch of jews started a religion to subvert the whole world so that they could take it over. And that Christianity has been this grand plan since the beginning to destroy the strong pagan gods and turn everybody into love your neighbor weaklings so that the Jews could take over the world like they've done now. You know, well, that's very difficult to reply to because I can't believe that there are people who really believe it.

These are the same people, by the way, that will say how awful that Christian monarchs were for destroying pagan societies. Well, it's got to be one of the other. Either they're weak or they're too strong. Which one is it? They talk about this. I know these people.

I've spoken to these people. I don't know how numerous they are, but you have to be beyond historically, literate to accept it. I'm no expert on the Schofield Bible thing, but clearly it had an influence, especially in Britain, on how the Middle East was perceived. But from the moment the Jewish elites put Christ to death, they were at war with this new

religion. There isn't a shred of evidence whatsoever that the Jews were anything other than extremely hostile wherever they went from you know when the Persons conquered the area the Jews in their in their train slaughtered every Christian they could find Middle East that is

I forget it was 60,000 something like that which at the time was a huge number wherever the Jews have gone they've done everything they can to not just destroy Christianity but support the enemies it's one of the reasons that Islam was able to Islam now Islam is this might work for Islam because there are tremendous connections theologically and in terms of the basic mentality between Judaism and Islam.

I've spoken on that some years ago. I don't remember every detail now, but there's a lot of connections. And if you control for the current problems with the state of Israel in the 20th century, Prior to that, Islam and Judaism did fairly well together. You know, I said the Turkish Empire had a Jewish ruling class, especially in its finance and legal elements. And it's medicine, too. And we could talk about Spain. We could go everywhere.

There isn't, you know, the Talmud. Have these people never heard of this? The invective, the, I can't, you can't refute something. something that's so stupid. It's like someone's claiming that the sun doesn't exist. You know, I don't, I'm not sure how to deal with these people. The illiteracy, the deliberate, either they really aren't that stupid or they need to believe this for some reason, possibly a sexual reason, as you Michael Jones has said about it.

No, I'll tell you what the reason is. It's because politics is so taken over, and once you realize how, you know, Yaki said that we live in the age of total politics and absolute politics, everything has taken over our life. Politics has taken over every aspect of our life. And if they see their enemies as the Jews, how can they worship one? Yeah, and these people, I have to, you know, trying to explain to them that the you know, Old Testament

of which Christ rejected a peace of has nothing to do with the Jewish synagogue down the street from them that they're totally and completely opposed that Christianity was the only defender of the best of the Old Testament. They think a Jews, a Jew's a Jew, no matter where they are or what they are. Again, it's the same level of illiteracy.

Early Christianity was Greek. Christ was raised in Nazareth which was a part of Decapolis there was no way if he, you know, Carpenter, there was no way he wasn't working in that area. It was a very Greek area. There was no question that he knew Greek culture. This is why the Bibles

of Christian literature was either in Greek, overwhelmingly in Greek, or in, you know, other local languages, Syriac. You know, he spoke to Pilate in Latin. He clearly was a part of Greek culture. This was the initial Christianity with the Greek influence at the time was huge. Decapolis, which is, yeah, Nazareth was a Hebraic enclave. But overwhelmingly, the early years of Christianity were very Greek. Now, theological debates early on were done in that language.

St. Justin Martyr, who was murdered in 100 or earlier than that, 98, there's a lot of debate over that. He was a Platonist. He agrees with me 100%, which is why he's in my book on anomalism. This is a, you know, it was initially, very quickly, it was a Greek, a Greek religion. It wasn't just Greek,

of course. But this is where the literature, how the literature was written down, the language that was used very, very early on. But I don't want to overload their brains with things like that. But again, for someone to believe that Christ is a Jew in the same sense that Rabbi Schneerson is a Jew, I don't know if I can convince him of anything. All right. Well, let's wrap it up right there. Next episode, we will be starting chapter 8, titled at the turn of the 20th century, and as I do at the end of every episode, please check the show notes, especially on the video platforms, and I have links there to where you can support Dr. Johnson's work, keep him unemployed so that he can keep studying and bring us this, I would say this has gotten to the point where it's beyond a college level course on exactly. exactly what happened in Russia, you know, with this group of people, once this group of people showed up. Thank you, my friend.

Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 27 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. How are you doing today, Dr. Johnson? About as well as you. I'm dragging a little bit But that's okay I'm a professional I'll rough it

I'll push through We can do an hour We can make it Sure Yep All right Starting chapter 8 today At the turn of the 20th century

It appears that after six years of reflection And hesitation The Tsar Alexander the third Irrevocably Chose as of 1880 to contain the Jews of Russia by restrictions of a civil and political nature, and he held this position until his death. The reasons were probably, on the one hand,

the evident part played by the Jews in the revolutionary movement. On the other hand, the no less evident fact that many Jewish youths shunned military service, only three quarters of those who should have been enrolled, served in the army. One noticed the ever-increasing number of Jews who did not respond to the appeal, as well as the increasing amount of unpaid fines related to these absences. Only $3 million out of the $30 million were returned annually to the funds of the state. In fact, the government still had no accurate statistics of the Jewish population, its birth rate, its mortality rate before the age of 21.

Let us remind that in 1876, because of this absenteeism, there had been a restriction of the favor accorded to certain persons, by virtue of their family situation, which meant that only the sons of Jewish families were now subjected, like the others, to general conscription. And as a result, the proportion of Jewish conscripts had become greater than that of non-Jews. This situation was not corrected

until the early 1900s under Nicholas II. I don't think it's probably. I think it's definitely. But these were the reasons. I said at the very beginning that Jews in Russia, especially at this time really anywhere act like a organized crime organization but God even the Italian mafia in America

responded to the draft clearly they they despise the Russians they live among or live near they don't want to speak the language except to manipulate them they have nothing in common with them and that's of their own doing you know they're still involved in smuggling the manipulation of peasants with alcohol

and a million other things criminal, semi-criminal and just sheer usurious and exploitative from the beginning the fact that even now the 20th century they still don't know how many live here

that they're hiding from the census just like they're hiding from everything else. It has a lot to do with taxes and they don't mention here that the tax arrears which because it's a monarchy you can cancel tax arrears. You can cancel loans like with the redemption payments when the land was given to the peasantry.

You can't do that in the republic. It's a banker state. You can't do that now. Someone's paying but because, especially with someone like Alexander III, whose office is more powerful than any banking clan in the country and even them put together

hence there's no reason to be corrupt. He can cancel whatever he once. And usually when a new monarch was either elected or took the throne, they canceled debt. It's right in the Old Testament. Leviticus 25 at a certain period of time that all debts are canceled. That's almost the responsibility of a Christian monarch. One of the many things of the Old Testament that the Jews absolutely despised.

Only in a republic, only in a merchant republic can our debt's just eternal, except in death and even then sometimes. So there's a million things here that show that the Jews acted like a criminal syndicate that they, and it didn't matter where they were, because Russia was such a Christian country. They defined themselves as that. That to be Russian is to be Orthodox,

and hence there's nothing a Jew can assimilate to. And any normal definition of that word, they're going to be enemies. There's going, and even there, even with this knowledge they're still a privileged cast somehow they're a privileged cast

for the most part in Russia doing better financially than anybody else by manipulating everyone around them and because of pogroms that they started more Russians were actually very few Jews were killed at all in the storytelling of theirs they've come to that's just their excuse

to hang together and despise the state and somehow in some twisted logic seek to overthrow the ultimate symbol of Rome, the ultimate enemy of the Talmud in the entire world at this time, which was the Tsar of Russia, and in particular, someone like Alexander III. As far as public education was concerned, the Tsar's wish, which he had formulated in 1885,

was that the number of Jews admitted to institutions outside the Paloist settlement was in the same ratio as the number of Jews in the total population. But the authorities pursued two aims simultaneously, not only to slow down the growing flow of Jews towards education, but also to fight against the revolution, to make the school, as it was called, not a pool of revolutionaries, but a breeding ground for science. In the chancellaries, they were preparing a more radical measure which consisted of prohibiting access to education to elements likely to serve the revolution, a measure contrary to the spirit of Lamanosov, and profoundly vicious prejudicial to the state itself, it was to deny the children of disadvantaged strata of the general population, the sons of cooks, admissions of college. The formulation, falsely reasonable, falsely decent,

was, leave the school of principles free to accept only children who are in the care of persons who can guarantee them good supervision at home and provide them with all that is necessary for the pursuit of their studies. Furthermore, in higher education establishments, it was planned to increase the right of access to classes. I think there's certain elements of propaganda here because it wasn't the lower classes that were the problem. Jews were not, by and large, they were not institutes of higher learning for the sake of education. That wasn't their purpose. Education to serve what?

A country that they loathed? you know there were plenty of people at the time that didn't want jews in the army at all let alone becoming officers it was just a way to give back the the tax uh and it was only you know not that many people there's there's a hundred million people in russia 80 million people you know the draft it wasn't like you know in in late 60s u.s it wasn't of everybody over over 18 that was healthy it was one person out of a series of villages it wasn't it wasn't done on mass They had enough people to feel the very, very large army without, you know, without this, this massive draft. And they didn't, they didn't have the centralization to do that anyway.

That's the only reason. But education to them, and there's nothing unreasonable about saying that we need people who are going to actually use this for education, not as a, not as a basis for revolution. You know, you always hear in protests, the students, college students, are always at the same. center of it. This was something that started here. This is something that started with Jewish influence, taking students who were, you know, at that age, you know, very full of themselves, very naive, easily manipulated. And now you see a pattern of the people who they think or thought were easy to, to, that they thought were impressionable, women, especially students of all kinds, proletarians, and convince them to support.

their causes and to do so violently. So this was a matter of the upper class, not the lower class. We talked in the very beginning of this about how Freemasonry had infiltrated the ranks of the upper level of the nobility. Now, there was no formal ranks of nobility, really. There were ranks of the bureaucracy, just like in the U.S. You have, you know, G7, G8, G9. You had that in Russia that had a military rank, and even they were uniform.

forms, very different from the West. You could be a colonel, so to speak, but not really be in the Army. That would just be a rank in the bureaucracy, something like that. I guess you have that in Kentucky in the U.S., the rank of colonel for non-military purposes. But you didn't have a nobility, but still your people are large landowners, high levels of people in the bureaucracy, even the military, that Freemasonry had penetrated it post the post-Peter world

the post-Catherine world and it took a long time even Alexander the 3rd because he didn't live long enough unfortunately to root that out it was very difficult to do despite the resources that the that the Tsar had he still was one man

and by World War I as great as our Nicholas the second was he really he really couldn't trust lot of people around them. Those ideas had penetrated so deeply. If Alicanda the third couldn't do it, really no one else is going

to be able to do it. Did you get rid of it? And that served the Jews very well. Remember what masonry is. Especially at the upper levels, it's just Judaism for non-Jews. It's just a dumbed-down version of the cabala for especially in the, you know, the

Orient style lodges that existed in the east. Not just, you know, your York nonsense in places like Britain in the U.S. This was far more serious in Germany, Italy, and Russia, Grand Orient and all of its offshoot. That was more Kabbalistic and more Judaic

at its core than, and of course, it also went with great amounts of money. They didn't just go pick anybody. They weren't picking cooks. But these kids, especially non-Jews, with money, were coming from some of these families.

This is where nihilism came from. Turgenev mentioned is it in his fathers and sons, very famous book. One of the greatest works of Russian literature is, you know, actually I have an essay on it in my book on Russian literature. So it's a complicated set of issues, but the upper classes are always the first to become revolutionary. It's never the lower classes, and we have that in America right now.

This measure provoked a strong outrage in liberal circles, but less violent and less lasting than the one that was instigated in 1887 by a new measure, the reduction of the number of Jews admitted to high schools and universities. It was originally planned to publish these two provisions within the framework of the same law, but the Council of Ministers opposed it, arguing that the publication of a general decision accompanied by restrictions for the Jews could be misinterpreted. In June 1887, therefore only a part was promulgated, the one that concerned non-Jews, measures aiming to regulate the contingent of pupils in secondary and higher education, measures directed in fact against the

common people. As for the reduction of the quota of the Jews, it was entrusted to the Minister of Education, Villanof, who implemented it in July 1887 by a bulletin addressed to the rectors of school boards. He fixed for the secondary and higher schools the numerous clauses of the Jews at 10% for paleless settlement, 5% out of it, and 3% in the two capitals. There's something else I should mention, and that is that in the beginning here, the admission of Jews in any of these sort of institutions was as high outside of the pale as inside, meaning that there was no enforcement. Jews weren't forced to live in this humongous area, where they had lived, by the way, for a very long period of time.

they lived where they pleased especially given the fact that they didn't know how many there were or even who they were in many cases so I should have mentioned that before but the Pallas settlement was places where Jews wanted to be remember it was it was a humongous area

and a fairly wealthy area compared with central and eastern parts of the empire so if anyone says they were forced to live there you say well that's what they wanted to be and clearly they weren't. There was no way to enforce it. And the proof is that Jews were everywhere

and were in institutions outside of the pails as much as they were on inside, in the inside. Following the example of the Ministry of Public Instruction, other organizations began to introduce quotas of admission into their institutions, and some were closed down to the Jews. Some of the higher school of electricity, the St. Petersburg School of Communication, and most strikingly, the Academy of Military Medicine,

which temporarily prohibited, but for many years its access to Jews. This numerous Claustis law, which had not been established during the 93 years of massive presence of Jews in Russia, and which was to continue for 29 years, practically until 1916, struck the Jewish Society of Russia all the more painfully because in the years 1870 to 1880, there had been a remarkable impulse of the Jews to enter schools and colleges, a phenomenon which Sliusberg in particular explains is not due to the realization of the masses of the necessity of education, but rather due to the fact that for a Jew without capital, figuring out how to deploy one's forces in the economic field was very difficult

and due to the fact that conscription became compulsory for all, but that there were dispensations for the students. Thus, if only well-to-do Jewish youth had studied before, a Jewish student proletariat was now being created, among the Russians, now as in the past, it was favored, it was the favored social class that received higher education among the Jews. In addition to the wealthy, young people from the underprivileged classes began to study. Keep in mind that most of these institutions didn't have tuition. This isn't like, you know, in the U.S. If you were good enough to pass the entrance

exams and everything else you had to do, it was, you know, a scholarship, so to speak, was almost insured. And this was obvious for the military academies. I'm very anxious to learn why specifically, and I forgot about this, that military medicine in particular, was banned. They didn't just pick this out of a hat. There has to have been incidents on the battlefield where Jewish doctors refused to, or you know, something like that, or use poison or whatever. They wouldn't just pick that one in particular out unless there was a specific problem with it. so now not only do you have jews going into higher education for the sake of the revolution you also have them there to avoid the draft so now you have two anti-social reasons

um to do it you know they didn't want warfare which given you know how long russes borders are they were always involved in one way or another they didn't want warfare to be dysgenic They didn't want their higher IQ people being killed. It wasn't for everybody. But regardless of what the law may have said, lower class students who passed the entrance exams were always involved in higher education. That was the norm. But given their upbringing and given levels of literacy or what they wanted to do, their influences, you didn't have a lot of people who from that,

world. You didn't have a lot of proletarians coming into a higher education. They really didn't know that much about it. So you have a whole bunch of reasons why Jews were in higher education. The only one that was passable, as Sultanizin suggests, is that for Jews who weren't as wealthy as others who were not established merchants, it's almost like someone going in

to get a business degree, but, you know, that didn't exist. That's not even an academic subject today, in my opinion. But economics is, but business isn't. I have the feeling it was more to meet other Jews and create, you know, and to network more than it was to learn anything. So that was probably the only semi-justified reason to go into higher education. The rest were very antisocial, and that's what Alexander III was worried about. we would like to add that in those years there had been a turning point in the whole world and in all fields of culture toward a no longer elitist but generalized education and the jews particularly intuitive and receptive have been the first to feel it at least instinctively but how can we find a way to satisfy without causing friction without clashes the constant and increasing aspiration of the jews to education in view of the fact that the indigenous population in its mass remained fairly asleep in basketball

how to avoid prejudice to the development of either side. Of course, the objective of the Russian government was to struggle against a revolution. For among the student youth, many Jews had been noticed by their activism and their total rejection of the regime in place. However, when we know the enormous influence exerted by Poboda Nostov during the reign of Alexander III, it must be admitted that the aim was also to defend the Russian nation against the imbalance that was to occur in the field of education. that this is what testifies the baron Mordes von Hirsch, a big Jewish banker who visited Russia and to whom Poboda Nostov expressed his point of view. The policy of the government is inspired not by the idea that the Jews are a threat,

but by the fact that rich in their multi-millennial culture, they are more spiritual and intellectually powerful than the still ignorant and unpolished Russian people. That is why measures had to be taken to balance the low capacity, of the local population to resist. And Pobit Nostev asked Hirsch, known for his philanthropy, to promote the education of the Russian people in order to realize the equal rights of the Jews of Russia. According to Sliosburg, Baron Hirsch allocated one million rubles to private schools. Yeah, I don't, I'm not sure how seriously that should be taken.

Popadonestyev didn't believe that Jews were intellectually superior. No normal person believed that. It was more that they had more of an incentive to go to universities. Of the reasons we've already discussed, it's not a matter of capacity. Because I didn't see this in the original Russian release, I don't remember. It's not a matter of capacity. It was a matter of incentive. It certainly wasn't a matter of money.

But back then, sons would generally, follow the field of their fathers, you know, overwhelmingly for the most part. That was a more traditional way to go, only changing really in the middle of the 20th century, maybe after the war. But so I think that's the issue. It's not capacity. It's just, you know, possibly breaking away from whatever field they're in and to go to, you know, a military academy or to a college, some specialization beyond what they're doing.

I don't think it's a matter of capacity. here at all. It's, you know, I think that might be an exaggeration. That's a typical Jewish propaganda line. We're simply superior people. They don't put it that way. But it has more to do with why Jews wanted to go to an institution of higher learning, to university, some kind, their incentives, not their ability.

Like any historical phenomenon, this measure can be viewed from various angles, particularly from the two different angles that follow. For a young Jewish student, the most elementary fairness seemed flouted. He had shown capacities, application, he had to be admitted, but he was not. Obviously, for these gifted and dynamic young people, to encounter such a barrier was more than mortifying. The brutality of such a measure made them indignant. Those who had hitherto been confined to the trades of commerce and handicrafts were now prevented from accessing ardently desired studies that would lead to a better life.

Conversely, the native population did not see in these quotas a breach of the principle of equality, on the contrary even. The institutions in question were financed by the public treasury and therefore by the whole population, and if the Jews were more numerous, it meant that it was at the expense of all, and it was known that, later on, educated people who enjoyed a privileged position in society. And the other ethnic groups, did they also have to have a proportional representation within the educated layer? Unlike all the other peoples of the empire, the Jews now aspired almost exclusively to education, and in some places, this could mean that the Jewish contingent in schools exceeded 50%. The numerous clauses was unquestionably instituted to protect the interests of Russians and ethnic minorities,

certainly not to bully the Jews. In the 20s of the 20th century, a similar approach was sought in the United States to limit the Jewish contingent universities, and immigration quotas were also established. But we shall come back to this. Moreover, the matter of quotas put today in terms of no less than has become a burning issue in America. Yeah. Remember, education in Russia, absolutely, and certainly in Central Europe, it wasn't an individual matter. That first argument that starts with for a young Jewish student, that's kind of how a post-modern American would view education. This was a social matter.

This was an ethnic matter. Education wasn't just so you wouldn't have a better life. It was Hegelian. It was so that you can, you know, join a guild, be a part of a specific field that benefits the society. Having Jews networking the way that they do, like their absolute domination of the American Ivy Leaves, is bad for everybody.

But, of course, the U.S. is Judaic, so no one's going to challenge that. They would love for you to believe that they don't. dominate the Ivy Leagues, and that's why it has a, you know, they're not, they're not places of brilliance by any stretch of the imagination. State universities are usually superior in that department. I've known so many people in American Ivy Leagues who say the classes are a joke, assuming they have, they go to classes, especially for grad student. Small private schools even are far superior in that regard. Their reputation comes from the huge percentage of Jews, but it's just a matter of networking. It's always been, um, You know, whites and Jews have very similar average IQs. That's not the issue. But, of course, we know with other races that's far from the case. So this was a form of social protection.

It had nothing to do with what individuals wanted. And Jews were going into university education also for their own ethnic reasons. They were doing perfectly fine. and the fact that there was no tuition as I said before means that Russians are paying for Jews to seek a society

that were their dominant and that was a problem and of course bringing up for the U.S., yeah, that was no problem and they still have them even if they're technically illegal they're still going to do it because that's the official ideology

but so quotas were to protect the society It had nothing to do with what individuals wanted. Notice that you will hear people complain about, like, WASP legacy students getting accepted in to Yale, Harvard, places like that. But people are completely blinded to the fact that Jews will just get hired in those places and make sure the Jews get accepted into them, just like with the Nobel Prize and their committee and things like that. Yeah, this is huge, especially in the law schools. You know, Jews absolutely dominate the Ivy League law schools all over the east.

And even elite schools outside of that. And, of course, they're completely, you know, separatists in their thinking, then and now. They hire each other. And I think that's the, when it came to, you know, improving their life, so to speak. I think that networking and plugging in to that international society had more to do with them going into a university, paid for by the Guillaume, by the way, then actual their own personal improvement.

And the Russian government understood that at the time. Finally, you're starting to notice that Russians are waking up from their naifte about the Jews and taking some action. And for Nicholas I first and especially, Alexander the third and Nicholas II, those three took some serious action, which is why they're attacked constantly by Anglo-American historians today. In practice, there have been many exceptions to the application of the numerous clauses in Russia. The first to avoid it were girls' high schools. In most high schools for

young girls, the quotas were not current, nor in several public higher education establishments. The conservatories of St. Petersburg and Moscow, the school of painting, sculpture and architecture of Moscow, the Kiev School of Commerce, et cetera. A fortiori quotas were not applied in any private establishment, and these were numerous and of high quality. For example, at the Karpitchenikova high school, one of the best high schools in Moscow, a quarter of the students were Jewish, there were numerous at the famous Polovanovkaya High School in Moscow, and the Androyeva Girls School in Rostov, where my mother was a pupil there, were in her class more than half of Jewish girls.

Business schools under the Ministry of Finance to which Jewish children were eager to register were initially open to them without any restriction, and those which took place after 1895 were relatively light. For example, in commercial schools and the Payless Settlement financed out of private funds, the number of Jews admitted depended on the amount of money allocated by Jewish merchants for the maintenance of these schools, and in many of them, the percentage of Jewish students, was 50% or more.

That's a very important paragraph because even in private institutions, there was no tuition, but there had to be a body, like church schools. You know, it was a church itself that financed these. You didn't have to pay. There had to be a body that would put up the money

for the number of students that they were able to handle. Here, within the Pala Settlement, near Kiev and places like that, it was these Jewish merchants that were putting up the money. So, of course, they're not going to have Goyim all over the place. They're not going to allow that. And so those restrictions only existed within state schools financed by either tax money or things like tariffs and indemnities or anything else.

So within the pale of settlement, you had the absolute Jewish domination, which the state really didn't do anything about because it really didn't. It could have, but these were private. They didn't want a precedent where any private institution can be dominated. But as time went on, these schools became hotbeds of revolution. The state even tried to do something about that. Of course, if the Jewish merchant is going to be putting up the money, it's going to be a Jewish school. And 50% of course is many times the proportion of Jews in a specific area, the percentage of Jews in a specific area.

place like Odessa. Yeah, it's very high. That makes more sense. But all over, Russia and Ukraine, where Jews were in huge numbers, Belarus for Jews existed in huge numbers. Private schools was a Jewish domain because Jewish merchants were putting up the money and not just local, but the entire Jewish empire throughout the world were putting up the money. They always had a very easy source of liquidity wherever they went. Because again, this was an ethnic concern, not an individual concern. If the official standard was strictly observed at the time of admission to the secondary classes, it was often largely overstepped in the larger classes. Slusburg explains this notably by the fact that Jewish children who entered high school pursued it to the end, whereas the non-Jews often gave up their studies before completion. This is why, in large classes, there were often much more than 10% Jewish pupils. He confirmed that they were numerous, for example, at the Poltava High School.

Out of 80 boys, eight were Jewish. In the boys' school in Maripo, at the time when there was already a local Duma, about 14 to 15% of the pupils were Jewish, and in girls' high schools, the proportion was even higher. In Odessa, where Jews constituted one-third of the population, there were in 1894, 14% in the prestigious Richelieu High School, more than 10% in the gymnasium. in the gymnasium number two, 37% in gymnasium number three. In girls high school, the proportion was of 40% in business schools,

72%, and in university, 19%. It just depended on what and what their, you know, the Kahal didn't exist anymore, but it doesn't mean that there wasn't a strong, completely separatist ethnic mentality.

I mean, there is now, for the most part. That separatist ethnic mentality was overwhelmingly revolutionary. You know, for the 9,000th time, I'll say the revolutionary movement came from sons of the wealthiest, or at least the upper middle part of the merchant classes, those who live on usury and not working,

living off rents, in the economic sense of the term. Business school, 72%. That's not a shock. Their power came from their access to liquidity, but it also came from their cohesion. It was cohesion above all else. And the survival strategy, as we all know, is to promote chaos in their host society, ethnically,

bringing in as many foreigners you possibly can, and at the same time maintaining a fanatical level of cohesiveness for their own people. That's how they were able to overcome and continue to be able to overcome their small numbers. and simpleton looking at these numbers will say oh my god they're so superior to us we need to worship these people and you have plenty of people who believe that protestants especially we know it's not true and i have never come across in the in the thousands and thousands of books in russian and in english that i've gone through in this era i have never come across this particular group of statistics before or the fact well that's not true i have but not the argument

that these private schools were being financed by those locally and so in Jewish areas they were financed by Jewish merchants and therefore the network was very obvious and Goyim by the thousands were rejected this was their this was part of their sense of cohesiveness

that has nothing to do with money eventually it had a lot to do with a revolutionary movement but a revolutionary movement has to be financed and it's just starting to seep in to at least the royal court, if not the Senate and elsewhere, that this is a huge problem for the country. To the extent that financial means permitted it, no obstacle prevented this thirst for education. In a number of secondary schools in the central Russian provinces, there were few Jewish

peoples at that time, and parents took the opportunity to send their children there. The wealthiest parents had their children homeschooled. They prepared for examinations to enter the next grade, and, though, us reached this way the senior year. In the period between 1887 and 1909, Jewish children were free to pass the school leaving examinations, and they graduated as equals those who had followed the curriculum. A majority of external pupils were Jewish, a family like that of Jacob Marchock, a jeweler with no great fortune, the father of the poet, whose five children had a higher education, was not uncommon before the revolution. Yeah, think of Central Russia as, you know,

Moscow in the center and points east up until the Ural Mountains. So maybe draw a circle 200 miles around Moscow, but stop at the border of the pale of settlement. And that's central Russia. It was mostly agrarian. It was one of the most orthodox parts of the country, the north slightly more. You had huge peasant ownership of land at this point. it was really the core

of the great Russian society you didn't have tons of Jews there and there you had more of a proportional you know the Jewish target was where they dominated or where they had a much higher proportion which would be in the far western areas. The Pala of Settlement

was there was their Khazaria at this point. No one was forced to live there but it's a place where their dominance was increasing which meant that the revolutionary movement was increasing Moreover, private establishments were opened everywhere, whether mixed for the Jews and Christians or for the Jews only. Some of these establishments enjoyed the same rights as public establishments.

The others were authorized to issue certificates entitling them to enroll in higher education establishments. A network of private Jewish settlements was established which formed the basis of a national type education. The Jews were also oriented toward higher education establishments abroad, A large part of them on their return to Russia passed examinations before the state commissions. Sliusberg himself observed that in the 80s, at the University of Heidelberg, that the majority of Russian listeners were Jews, and at that time, among them, did not have their bachelor's degree. One can rightly wonder whether the restrictions dictated by fear in front of the revolutionary moods of the students did not contribute to feeding said moods. if these were not aggravated by indignation at the numerous closest and by contracts maintained abroad with political emigrants. What happened in Russian universities after the publication of the bulletin, there was no sharp fall, but the number of Jews decreased almost every year from 13.8% in 1893 to 7% in 1902.

The proportion of Jews studying at the universities of St. Petersburg and Moscow remained no less than the imposed 3% norm, throughout the period of validity of the said standard. You keep in mind that many elite Jewish families were sending their children to schools in Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. All at the top of my head, I don't know, there were certain restrictions there, but I don't know to what extent. I think Russia's had the strictest, and for very obvious reasons. They were also going to schools in France.

So Jewish education was, like everything else, completely worldwide, and not just an effect of great wealth, but the cause of greater wealth in the future. Minister Delianov acceded more than once to the request submitted to him and authorized admission to university beyond the numerous clauses. This was how hundreds of students were admitted. Delianov's flexibility will succeed later the rigidity of Mr. Bogolopov, and it is not excluded that this, This may have contributed to making him the target of terrorists. Sliusberg gives this overview. The percentage in the Superior Courts of Medicine for Women outweighed that of the Academy of Military Medicine and that of the University and all the Jewish girls of the Empire poured in. Several hundred Jews were enrolled in the School of Psychoneropathy,

neuropathology in St. Petersburg, where they could enter without a baccalauret. And so there were thousands over the years. It was called the School of Neuropathology, but it also housed a faculty of law. The Imperial Conservatory of St. Petersburg was filled with Jewish students of both sexes. In 1911, a private mining school opened in Katerina Slav. Well, it wouldn't shock anybody that neuropathology. This is, you know, essentially both psychology and psychiatry today would be entirely Jewish. The Russian Empire financed female education more than elsewhere.

Especially under Nicholas II, the money spent on building more. both high schools and universities was increasing by huge numbers every year and disproportionately for women. Unfortunately, it's also the case that Jewish women were just as involved in the revolutionary movement as Jewish men were. And, you know, they were actually, it was quite fashionable, Jews being very impressionable, females being very impressionable. They want to do what's fashionable.

So they were, and they were very effective because at the time, you know, women were not perceived as, as, you know, revolutionaries or guerrillas as I later became assassins. They were much, you know, they were used in, you know, in spying, you know, because they could get closer to people far more than men can. They were very, they were involved in assassination, especially poison, which was a female method of, of, of, murder. And when you connect law with psychiatry, you have just a perfect storm of Jewish revolutionary thinking. And regardless of state quotas, worry, it was very difficult for anyone to do anything about this, given the nature of the Russian Empire, given the power of the Jews in various places. And we all know that the left was far better. at propaganda than the right was at the time.

And a revolution can't just be physically violent. It also has to try to capture the mind. So having a dual law psychology school was absolutely deadly. And it's no surprise that it became a hotbed for revolutionaries. And we've already noticed that those who pointed this stuff out were often murdered. as we mentioned a few paragraphs ago remember this is an era and it was under control under Alexander III

but it started up again when Nicholas II took over Jewish terrorism was everywhere if you were a bureaucrat even a low level cops or anything else you were in danger of being shot or blown up at a moment's notice and this is of course

no one's going to talk about about this in mainstream life, but Jewish Revolutionary Terrorism was constant and a constant threat. Lots of people were, lots of Guillaume were murdered, especially in the big cities. And that was a constant threat as well. So the state had every reason to worry about what was coming out of these universities and how they were going about their revolutionary action. The universities were a central aspect of this. And it was for the safety of the safety of the society, but the state took action. But there was only so much they can do. Enforcement was always a problem. And unless it was right in the center of a big city, the state had limited

options. And often it became a matter of the local population. Hence, in places like Ukraine, you had the growth of the union of the Russian people and organizations like that. Admissions of specialized schools, such as that of health officers, was done with great freedom. J. Tidal says that at the Saratov School of Nurses of High Quality, very well equipped, Jews from the Paleo-Settlement were admitted without limitation and without prior authorization issued by the police for the displacement. Those who were admitted thus received full rights. This practice was confirmed by the governor of Saratov at the time, Stolopin. Thus, the proportion of Jewish students could rise to 70%.

In the other technical schools to start off, Jews from the Palo Settlement were admitted without any norm, and many of them continued their studies in higher education. From the Palo Settlement also came a mass of external pupils that did not find their place in university and for whom the Jewish community of the city struggled to find work. To all that is should be added that the number of establishments where the teaching was delivered in Hebrew, was not limited. In the last quarter of the 19th century, there were 25,000 primary schools with 363,000 pupils in the Pala settlement, 64% of all Jewish children. It is true that in 1883, the old Jewish establishments of the state were closed due to having no use. No one went there anymore. But note, the opening of these institutions was once interpreted by the Jewish publicists as an act and a ruse of the adverse reaction, and today their closure was also the act

of adverse reaction. What he's trying to say there is that the Jews abandoned some of these older schools. Hence, they were shut down because no one went there anymore. To this day, Jews will say, well, they will shut down because they were Jewish. This was a reaction to the state. No, the Jews themselves shut it down. But this is very typical of how they interpret things. Then and now.

In summary, the admission quotas did not hinder the Jews. aspirations education. Nor did they contribute to raising the educational level of the non-Jewish people of the empire. They also aroused bitterness and rage among the Jewish youth. But this, in spite of the prohibitions, was going to constitute an intelligentsia of Vanguard. It was the immigrants from Russia who formed the nucleus of the first intellectual elite of the future state of Israel. How many times we read in the Russian Jewish encyclopedia that notices sons of small craftsmen, sons of small trader, son of merchant, and further on, completed university. The university diploma initially conferred the right to reside throughout the empire and to serve

in the administration, later access to education and academies, universities, and public schools was once again limited. Graduates of the Faculty of Medicine, doctors and pharmacists, were allowed to reside anywhere, whether they practiced their profession or not. And like all those who had completed a higher degree, they could even devote themselves to commerce or other trades, be members of the merchant corps without having previously spent five years in the first guild in the palest settlement, as was required of other merchants. The Jews, holding the title of Doctor of Medicine, could practice their profession in any district of the empire, hire a medical secretary and two aides among their co-religionists by bringing them from the palest settlement.

The right to reside in any place, as well as a right to trade, was attributed to all those who practiced paramedical professions without having completed a higher education, dentists, nurses, midwives. As from 1903, a requirement was added that these persons should mandatorily practice their field of specialization. I want to point out that despite the Jewish angle of things, this shows you how seriously the Russian Empire took education, that those with various degrees, and you notice how this is organized it's not as strictly well organized with these boundaries between

degrees and gymnasium high school university those lines weren't nearly as strict as they are today it has more to do with your ability and who you were working under than anything else

but you notice the privileges that anyone with a good education received in Russian society and the very fact so that's a huge point to make, contrary to all the mythology about how Russia was at the time. It was a very literate society, especially for those who actually needed it. And this also meant that the Russian Empire was growing tremendously, intellectually, economically, industrially, scientifically,

and without a floating currency, a strong state sector, strong state influence, and one of the best protections for workers, especially under Alexander III, than anywhere else in the world, including Britain. It was Germany and the Russian Empire that maintained those standards. This is something that the British Empire had a huge problem with. So it's not just the Jews themselves that were causing trouble. It was the British trying to influence this as well, attempting to overthrow the monarchy, which is what they wanted at least since the Crimean War, if not if not before um russia and germany because of their tremendous growth at the time both together or even both separately um were a huge threat to the jewish empire in london

and this is how things are going to develop this is why so much of the revolutionary movement jewish and otherwise was located in london and so many of the russian oligarchs almost all Jewish were kicked out of the country or fled, most of them ended up in London before they went to Israel. And many of them lived in London, which as far as they were concerned was one and the same. So you had a British angle to all of this, but not only does this show the tremendous literacy of Russian society,

how seriously they took education, but how rapidly the Russian Empire was growing and what that meant as far as European politics was concerned. let me ask we've reached a natural stopping point so I wanted to ask you a question because we have a couple minutes left

have you ever considered the state of Israel to be just a continuation of Bolshevish Bolshevist Russia Well you mean the Soviet Union Well I mean there comes up to a point where Jews lose

their influence in the so in the soviet union uh the the amount of influence they had definitely in the in the late teens early in the late teens and 20s so is that a point are they spilling over there i don't know if i'd go that far despite the fact that um there were plenty of things that zionists and and the bolsheviks or socialists of various kinds had in common they were two separate movements. We talked about at some length how, and I've been dealing with this on my own show for the last month or so,

that it was roughly the late 60s, early 70s, where the Jews separated from the USSR for a whole bunch of reasons. And because how, you know, the tremendous subsidies Israel was getting from the U.S. emigrating out of the Soviet Union to Israel and the U.S. became the thing to do. We talked about the Jackson-Vannock Amendment.

The only time there were sanctions placed on the USSR was concerned Jewish immigration. So it was more of a nationalist movement than any kind of international revolutionary movement. Yes, a lot of it was the same group of people. But by the 1970s, you know, Jews were almost inherently a revolutionary movement. what form that revolution takes, whether it be like the oligarchs, the Bolsheviks, how the Jews ran

the hippie movements, et cetera, in the late 60s using the Vietnam War. These were different movements, all with the same goal. Capitalism and socialism have most things in common, especially late capitalism and Bolivism. They function

a lot of the same ways. Intellectually, they have a lot of the same foundations. And while it's true, that the Soviet Union did establish the state of Israel. Given the time period, despite even the U.S. was helping the Soviet Union rebuild and all that by 1948,

the U.S. just cut a much better deal with the Jews and the U.S. and the Rothschilds in London together. Yeah, the Soviets couldn't possibly match that. Keep in mind that the Soviet Union was backing what I've considered the national socialist states in Syria and Iraq. for a long time, even to this day before the fall of Assad.

And so Zionists then really did have a problem with the USSR. Finally, you have a situation where Jews, it became fashionable to oppose the Soviet Union, but only in this era where the Soviets were falling behind. Their infrastructure was not like it was. 1970s was rough, and you see the cracks in the, which I titled my talks on this, cracks in the monolith in 1970s and high-tech light industry consumer products the west was blowing the soviet side of the water in other areas not so much like military technology they held their own in fact may have been slightly superior but in a lot of these high profit

high margin areas the jews were leaving the ussr they always had a nose no pun intended for where the future money was and it wasn't going to be the USSR but the same revolutionary mentality that established the USSR was the same revolutionary mentality that used quote private property in the 1990s

to bleed the country dry really the same group of people the same mentality but different methods Zionism though was more of a national movement and because, you know, they were willing to make sacrifices. That first generation was willing to make the sacrifices

that would never make for any other society in building, however violent and genocidal it was in the late 40s, to build the so-called Zion stream. And it was always a struggle because they don't have a right to be there. They've made enemies everywhere. So it's not quite the same. and both the early Soviet Union as well as Israel does have American support, Western support.

The industry of the USSR was purely from the West. They didn't have that capacity at the time. They did under the Tsars, but not in the 20s and 30s. So, of course, I could draw plenty of similarities. Like saying that it's a continuation of the Soviet Union is, that's hard for me to agree with. It's revolutionary wherever it goes Because that's in the Jewish mind The Jewish genetics is to be revolutionary

To reject logos Tecun Olam, regardless of what they use They'll use whatever tools they have at their disposal Whether it be oligarchy bolivism American liberalism It just doesn't matter It has the same result and has the same purpose So in that sense, of course

But that's not saying anything Because wherever the Jews function politically, it is revolutionary. But the problem in an entirely Jewish society is that there's really no one to exploit. So you have Arabs doing most of the work on the kibbutzum early on, American tax money. Keep in mind that the settlers in the West Bank used to be in the Gaza

strip before they get kicked out. And now parts of Syria, East Jerusalem, settlers don't work. just like the Orthodox in Jerusalem they don't work at all they're financed by the Israeli state and wealthy Jews outside the country so there's a million ways I could I could connect these movements

but the mentality behind them is quite different despite them all being revolutionary right so it's just a continuation it's just one long thread of the revolutionary spirit that Dr. Jones talks about Yeah. And he makes that argument. I've made that argument that this is just inherent to the Jewish mind. But once it's just Jews in what they think is their homeland, that mentality is going to change a little bit. One of the reasons that the West sword of turned on Netanyahu was that he had these Jewish nationalists in power, so-called extremists, that were engaging, you know, anti-homosexual stuff. in Israel, among Jews, not elsewhere. And when you get, the West called them racist and all this.

And the left finally, you know, took him the task for this. And this is why it became fashionable to reject Netanyahu even before the war started. There was huge demonstrations and riots in Israel against Netanyahu. But that's only among Jews. Everything else we're talking about is where Jews are a minority in a society that hate. But Israel is a different story. So exploitation takes on a very different kind of tone. They just need, they exploit Americans, they exploit Arabs. But domestically, it's mostly Jews. That was the whole point of Israel in the first place. So, you know, it's a lot of the same people.

It's a lot of the same mentality. But the methods are extremely different. And the one big, big difference is that they go from a minority. to a self-conscious majority in a state that they've created for their own purposes. So in that sense, no, it's not a continuation, but I understand the nature of the question. All righty. This is the point where I tell and remind everybody to go to the show notes, especially if you're looking at the videos. There's links there where you can support Dr. Johnson's work and keep him unemployed so that he can keep us educated.

Thank you, my friend. Of course, and talk to you in a couple days. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 28 of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I don't know about you, but I am definitely excited to continue. And we're actually making progress here, page 172. You know, I thought it would be another three months before we got here.

but, you know, I'm actually seeing progress. Yep. And, yeah, we're, people are estimating, people are like doing pools in some of the chats I'm in to see how many episodes this whole thing is going to be. That's actually, yeah, I'm not sure if I would take that bet. I don't know. Yeah, somebody said, well, if we keep at this pace, it'll be 109, which would be ironic. So.

Well, that wouldn't be. be a, that wouldn't be an example of irony, but, um, I get what you mean. And, uh, boy, let's, let's, let's shoot for that. Let's try to shoot for that as much as you can. All right. Although I think Maldives just became 110. Oh, I haven't caught up with that. All right. All right. But I think 109 is still more, more infamous. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's iconic at this point. Yeah. Okay. All right. Here, here we go. Continue in reading. Restrictions also affected the bar, the independent body of lawyers set up in 1864. This profession paved the way for a successful career, both financially and personally,

and to convey one's ideas. Advocacy by lawyers in court were not subject to any censorship. They were published in the press, so that the speakers enjoyed greater freedom of expression than the newspapers themselves. They exploited it widely for social criticism and for the edification of society. The class of solicitors had transformed themselves in a quarter of a century into a powerful force of opposition. One should remember the triumphal acquittal of Vera Zasolich in 1878. The moral laxity of the lawyer's argumentation at the time strongly worried Dostoevsky, he explained in his writings. Within this influential brotherhood, the Jews quickly occupied a preponderant place, revealing them

to be the most gifted of all. When in 1889, the Council of the Sworn Attorneys of St. Petersburg published for the first time in its report the data concerning the numbers of Jews in this trade, the great St. Petersburg lawyer, A.J. Passover, renounced the title of member of the council and was no longer a candidate for election. I want to point out the Sulitz trial. she tried to murder the police chief of Petersburg and I think the evidence was pretty overwhelming

she was in correspondence with Karl Marx Jew of course and she was acquitted and what Joel Zanetson is trying to get to here was that it was the left was so powerful from the power of the Jews and had taken over the legal professions at such an

extent that they could get someone like her off and not in a good way, in a bad way. And, yeah, and Dostoevsky, you know, made a comment about the Sophos in ancient Greece, because that's exactly how they functioned. I bet you this Passover name is a literal translation from the original Russian as something else, but it's still pretty funny. But especially in Moscow, St. Petersburg, in Kiev, definitely, Kiev, definitely, Odessa, the legal profession was like the banking profession. Of course, clearly the two are related in many ways, and that had become essentially a Jewish fief. But the Zasulich acquittal really was an outrage.

and but again how once of a tyranny could Russia have been if such a thing is possible if someone like that could be who is a dedicated revolutionary who believed in murder as a way of life and because she was female could get away with a lot you know even today in America women convicted of major crimes get about 25% of what a male with the same record and the same crime would get. Back then, it was even worse. So she was, she was acquitted

from, you know, the blatant assassination showing you that the legal profession at this point was Judaic and was backing and supporting the revolutionary movement overwhelmingly. In the same year, 1889, the Minister of Justice, Menasin, presented a report to Tsar Alexander III, it was stated that the bar is invaded by Jews who supplant the Russians. They apply their own methods and violate the code of ethics to which sworn-in attorneys must obey. The document does not provide any clarification. In November 1889, on the orders of the czar, provision was made supposedly provisionally and consequently able to escape the legal procedure, requiring that the admission to the number of those avowed and delegated authorities of non-Christian

confession, will be henceforth and until promulgation of a special law in the subject possible only with the authorization of the Minister of Justice. But as apparently neither the Muslims nor the Buddhists availed themselves in large numbers of the title of lawyer, this provision proved to be de facto directed against the Jews. From that year onwards, and for another 15 years, practically no unbaptized Jew received this authorization from the minister, even such brilliant personalities and future advocates as M. M. M. Winnever or O. O. Grusenberg. They remained confined for a decade and a half in the role of law clerks. Winnever even pleaded more than once in the Senate and was very much listened to. The clerks, in fact, pleaded with the same freedom

and success as the attorneys themselves here. There were no restrictions. So so far in what we call modern Russia, you know, the late imperial period, we have Jews taking over, even if they're not a majority, but essentially using the educational system to promote revolution and their own self-interest. Now we have them taking over the legal profession for their own self-interest and promoting the revolution. And this is the cause of these restrictions. But I probably don't have to say that in every single textbook, it will say in English or any other language. It will say that for no reason, because of the blind hatred of Jews, they were limited and there were quotas and there were restrictions all over the place, at least in those two

areas, just because they were Jews. But it seems that in terms of Russian Jews, wherever they went, they took it over, they used their connections, their network, their money, and they bent it and perverted it for their own agenda, which was some variant of the leftist revolution, because as I said last week, Zionists at this point were still a fairly tiny minority. In 1894, the new minister of justice, N.V. Moraviev wanted to give this temporary prohibition the value of permanent law. His argument was as follows. The real danger is not the presence in the body of lawyers of a certain number of people of Jewish faith who have rejected, to a large

extent, the notions contrary to the Christian norms, which pertain to their nation. But it is, in fact, that the number of such persons become so great that they are likely to acquire a preponderant importance and to exert an adverse influence on the general level of morality and on the activities of that corporation. In the bill, it was advocated that the proportion of non-Christian solicitors be limited to the in each jurisdiction to 10%. The Tsar's government rejected the project, but as Mr. Kroll said, this idea did not meet the condemnation it deserved in the Russian public opinion and within the society of jurists of St. Petersburg. Only a few people protested vigorously. The rest, the vast

majority, were clearly in favor of the draft at the time of its discussion. This gives an unexpected insight into the state of mind of the capital's intelligentsia in the mid-90s. In the St. Petersburg jurisdiction, 13.5% of the attorneys were Jews, while in Moscow less than 5%. The prohibition for the clerks of solicitors to become themselves avowed was felt all the more painfully because it followed limitations in the scientific careers in the service of the state. It would not be lifted before 1984, a 1904. In the 80s, a limitation on the number of Jewish jurists was introduced in the provinces of the Pala settlement so that they did not have a majority within the juries. And that was something that helped spring Zasulich, as we mentioned before.

And, you know, evidence didn't seem to matter in these cases, like the Belis case in Kiev, near Kiev, the ritual murder case. we had a similar problem 13.5% in Petersburg that's a huge number that weren't that many Jews living there and but now juries it's the same thing and you consider you know what's the tellment but at this point in Russian history intellectuals especially you know orthodox intellectuals they knew what the talmud was they had access to it at least in a bridge form which is really the only one way a sane person could read it. And it's essentially their version of school narcissism. They're these debates and arguments. They hedge around the law, as Michael Hoffman likes to term it. Their masters are finding loopholes. This is part of what the Talmudic mentality creates.

Equivocation, especially in terms of definition and the usage of words, it's like any written law became a huge problem in the hands of the Jews, because they could make it, say, whatever you want, and if you don't have an intellectual audience, you know, the ordinary person, the ordinary juror, this can sound very convincing. This was a matter of national security. Zasulich should have been executed. There's no doubt. But because of all of these problems, she was able to be set free, acquitted.

and she became a major figure in the very early period of the Bolshevik movement, as I mentioned, in regular correspondence with Carl Marx, of course, before this, but she was not a minor person. Everyone knew that. So when you consider the mentality that the Talmud, if you're steeped in it, that mentality that is going to create seems perfect for the law, but only the kind of law where law is not something that you respect, but something that is subject to manipulation and equivocation and fallacious reasoning.

And that was bad enough where it actually became a matter of national security. It was also from the 80s that the hiring of Jews and the judicial administration ceased. There were, however, exceptions to this. Thus, J. Title, who had been appointed shortly after his university studies, remained there 25 years. He finished his career ennobled with the civil rank of general. It must be added that Cheglo Vitov forced him to retire of his own free will. In the exercise of his duties, he often had, he, the Israelite, to administer odes to Orthodox witnesses, and he never met any objection from the clergy.

J.M. Halpert, also an official in the judicial administration, had acceded to the high-ranking position of deputy director of the Ministry of Justice into the rank of secret advisor. Halpern sat on the Palin Commission in the capacity of expert. Before that, the first prosecutor of the Senate had been G.I. Trottenberg and his deputy, G.B. Slithsberg, had initiated himself to defend the rights of the Jews. He was also first prosecutor of the Senate, S.J. Woutin, but he was baptized and consequently was not taken into account. The religious criterion has never been a false pretense for the Tsarist government, but has always been a real motive.

It was because of this that the old believers, ethnically Russian, were ferociously persecuted for two and a half centuries, as well as later, the Dukhobors and the Molokans, also Russians. Yeah, so the Jews can't talk about any racial issue here. There's been great Orthodox writers who at one point were Jews, and, quite legitimately were discussing with what they found. Donald Paul Rosenberg was one of the best. There's a few others, a handful of others. And the old believers, for those of you who don't know, I'm very sympathetic to them.

It's an Orthodox body who rejected not only the alterations to the liturgy under the error of Zara Alexis, but also condemned the Petrine State and the empire of Peter the Great and his, successors as being that of the antichrist because at the whole point of Russia in their minds was as the third Rome, the last defender of orthodox civilization. The old believers took over, I would say, more than half of the Russian peasantry by this period of time.

And they, of course, they were monarchists, but they were monarchists in the old Muscovite tradition, not the, not the Petrogradian tradition. An early book of mine is called Sobarnosti, essays on the old believers, which I published quite some time ago on Diapara Press. So these others are a little more bonkers, Malakhanes, the so-called milk drinkers and Dukabors, they're a bit more on the Gnostic side, but clearly it's not a racial matter. And they saw, if there was a legitimate baptism, a legitimate conversion of a Jew, he wasn't a Jew anymore. And also remember, keep in mind always that Jew was defined as someone who accepted the Talmud and nothing else. If you were a Karite, you weren't a Jew in any legal sense of the term. A Jew was almost by definition a Talmudist.

And so, and this was the case in a lot of the 109, almost all of those, especially from the Middle Ages onward, the only people who were ever affected were those who accepted the Talmud and hence the rabbis. Those outside of that, although of course a tiny minority, largely because the Talmud has destroyed them, that small minority was never affected by any of this. The baptized Jews were numerous in the service of the Russian state. We will not discuss it in this book. Let us quote under Nicholas I, the Count K. Nesselrod, who had a long career, at the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ludwig Chiglitz, who received the barony in Russia,

Maximilian Hine, brother of the poet and military doctor, who ended his career with the rank of state councillor, Governor General Bessac, General of the Suite of His Majesty Adelbert, the colonel of the horse guard Mevis, the here's diplomats, one of whom was minister under Alexander III. Later, there was the Secretary of State Peretz, grandson of the tax collector Abram Perrits, generals Kaufman Turkestansky, and Krulyov, the squire Solomon, director of the Alexandrovsky High School, Senators Gredinger, Posen, in the police department, Gurevich, Vissereraniov, among many others. Was the conversion to Christianity, especially to Lutheranism, in the eyes of

some considered as easy. Are all the tracks open to you at once? Sliusberg observed at one point an almost massive denial on the part of young people, but of course seen from the Jewish side, this appeared to be a grave betrayal, a bonus to the abjuration of his faith. When we think of the number of Jews who resist the temptation to be baptized, one gains a great respect for this unhappy people. Yeah, when I mention converted Jews, I'm referring to two different things. I'm referring to an actual legitimate conversion, not something out of convenience. And number two, a conversion to orthodoxy. Orthodoxy, especially in Russia, was a very difficult, is a very difficult religion to follow.

The fasts are very strict. And you're standing, you know, there are no pews or anything. You're standing in church for hours and hours and hours, both Saturday night and Sunday and many feast days as well. So I would be suspicious of someone who would, especially if they're not a German Jew, that would convert to what of the Protestant sense, because by comparison, it's very, very easy. You know, and some of them, you don't have to do anything. That would be a little bit more, you know, that would be, they're half, you know, the Protestants were half Judaic anyway. But Orthodoxy, that's a different story. And anyone who would serve under Alexander III, who was more than aware of the Jewish,

who was more than aware of the Talmud, he had to have been properly vetted, and it was up to the parish clergyman or the abbot of the monastery, depending on where they convert and the bishop under whom these institutions functioned, it was up to them to make sure this wasn't just a matter of convenience. But given the sacrifices that you would have to make to be orthodox, that wasn't, as it says here, that wasn't really an easy thing to do. Making matters worse, your life was forfeit. If it was a legitimate conversion, your life is forfeit. You know, the old tradition in some Hasidic sex, they have a funeral for you, again, showing you that hatred. And there, it's not a matter of God, or it's just that you're not a Jew

anymore. And for a people who is very sensitive to how few they are, losing, especially people at this rank, or who because of that reach of this rank, that's a big deal for them. Their whole world revolves around how to compensate for fairly small numbers. So when they mention Lutheranism, that's not really what I'm talking about when I say conversion. As far as I know, I can't think of any conversions to the old belief. That's a very difficult thing to do by the Jews, but I'm sure they existed somewhere. But going to Protestantism, which is much easier by comparison, there might be a little

bit of some leeway to be suspicious. Formerly, it was with candor. We divided people into two categories, ours and others, according to the criterion of faith alone. This state of mind, the Russian state, still reflected in its dispositions. But at the dawn of the 20th century, could it not have thought a little and wondered whether such a procedure was morally permissible and practically effective? Could we continue to offer the Jews' material welfare at the cost of the cost of the time? of denying their faith. And then what advantage could be derived from Christianity.

Many of these conversions were for pure convenience. Some justified themselves by luring themselves. I can thus be much more useful to my people. For those who had obtained equal rights in the service of the state, there no longer existed any restrictions of any kind whatsoever, which prevented them from gaining access to hereditary nobility and to receive the highest rewards. The Jews were commonly enrolled

without difficulty in genealogical records. And even, as we see from the census of 1897, 196 members of the hereditary nobility counted Hebrew as their mother tongue amongst the nobility in their personal capacities and the civil servants. They were 3,371 in the same case. There even was, among the Brodsky,

a family of modest artisans, marshals of the nobility of the province of Akaterinislav. just a couple of points here Hebrew is interesting because very few Jews in Russia spoke Hebrew even at the foundation of Israel in 1948 it was a dying language if Israel hadn't been found

and made that by force their official language it would have died out entirely so I don't know what that means they're Hebrew I think that might be symbolic but if you if they're a legitimate conversion versus an illegitimate conversion

If you work with these people, like you work in a bureaucracy together or something, it won't take long for you to realize which one's which. Because if legitimate conversion, they're not going to be talking about the Jews at all. If anything, like Don Rosenberg, who was one of my first teachers, you know, they'll point out far more than the average Gentile at the time knew about what a Jew is. And the things that repelled them from Judaism, even asking them why did you convert, that might just that question alone if they answer it straightforwardly can give you a clue so 196 members remember the hereditary nobility that largely came from the 18th century

part of that that wasn't really a hereditary nobility but again it proves that it was the so-called religious belief not the ethnicity or the race that mattered as far as the Russians were concerned again it was up to a number of people to decide whether or not a conversion was real or not because it is a terrible insult to bring someone into the faith and give them communion and everything else and have it be completely phony and someone would have to be responsible for that

someone who was just taken in by it or God forbid even bribed. But clearly there were legitimate conversions that had nothing to do because again the religion is difficult one and it's an actual religion there's a God here and everything. It's not just a matter of

ethnic promotion, like much of Judaism is. But if, like it says above, I could thus be much more useful to my people, well, how hard would it be to tell someone who's acting in Jewish interests while having converted versus one who acts like a normal Russian Orthodox Russian man? That shouldn't be that difficult to do. And under Alexander III, and even Nicholas, I can't imagine that that would be difficult to do something about where it becomes very clear. I don't know that 100% sure.

I don't know of any specific confrontations that way. Not to mention, I could also, I'm using my imagination here, but the fact that there had to have been Jews who just held the revolution in contempt, the murder, and realized that the only reason that their restrictions on them is because of these lunatics, these Jewish fanatics. That quite possibly may have been. been a first step in a legitimate conversion. You're always going to have divisions. I don't

care how much they stress cohesiveness. Jews knew, whether consciously or subconsciously, why they were discriminated against it in many ways. They had to have known that. They know what they're responsible for. So Jews that were more clear thinking had to have at some point said, these are the people who make it harder for me. And I don't accept the revolutionary movement. Now, of course, we're only talking about a small group of people, but clearly the Jewish hatred for that small group of people was limitless. And I'm sure they, I can't think of a whole lot of the top of my head, but they had to have existed.

I think every Jew knew why they were discriminated against, whether or not they wanted to accept it or deal with it, or they were just in psychological denial. That's another matter. But from the 70s of the 19th century onwards, Jews. News who sought positions in the administration of the state began to encounter obstacles, and this became worse from 1896 onwards. It must be said that few were those who aspired to this kind of routine and poorly paid activity. Moreover, from the 90s, the obstacles also affected the elective functions.

In 1890, a new Zemstva ordinance was issued, according to which the Jews were excluded from the self-management of the Zemstva. in other words outside the urban areas of the provinces and districts it was planned to not allow the jews to participate in the electoral meetings and assemblies of the zemstvus these did not yet exist in the western province the motivation was that jews who usually pursue their particular interests do not meet the demand for a real living and social connection with local life at the same time to work in the zemstva as an independent contractor to the title of what was called the outsider element, element that would introduce into the Zempsva several years in advance, the explosive charge of radicalism was not forbidden to Jews. And there, they were many. Let's be clear what a Zemstva is. That, although it had existed prior to Alexander II, it was a bicameral, self-governing ruling body at the county level.

so you would have a number of peasant communes involved in it. And it tended to end up on the liberal side of things. But this would be a place where Jews would love to have taken over. And I have the feeling that at least in certain places, the Zemstava became a liberal force. It was even called the Zempsba movement, was another word for the liberal movement. because you had certain former nobles

possibly financed by Jews running for election in these things. Remember, other than the monarchy and the local governors, everything, all local government was fully elective. Even the abbots of monasteries. And it used to be that parish clergy were all elected and stanching for bishops.

That changed under the Petrine State. But the only government that really affected your common person for any real length of time was either the county government a local government or the the guild and commune depending on what life you had and so

there would only be an attempt to ban and a successful attempt to ban Jews from this if there wasn't a concerted attempt to take it over and because that really directly affects ordinary Russians on a day-to-day basis like the commune would or the Artel would in the city that would have done a tremendous amount of damage and keep in mind too with all these things

all of these restrictions were extremely popular with the common Russian the common Ukrainian and the common Belarusian the only time you met opposition was like someone in the Russian Senate which is mostly appointed these were elites maybe even oligarchs

who had business dealings with them and when they say not in the Western they mean within the pale. The pale was starting to fall apart as something that really mattered. It just got more and more porous as time went on as Jews became more and more powerful. But it's very important to notice that in 1890 they stopped the Jews from taking over this very important, what we would call a county government today. The restrictions in the Zemstfos did not affect the Jews of the central Russian provinces

because the great majority of them resided in the cities and were more interested in urban administration. But in 1892, there appeared this time a new provision for cities. The Jews lost the right to elect and to be elected delegates to the Dumas and to the municipal offices, as well as to hold any office of responsibility or conduct their economic and administrative services. This represented a more than sensible limitation. As delegates, Jews were admitted only in cities of the palest settlement, but here, too, subject to a restriction, no more than one-tenth of a number of the municipal Duma, and again, on assignment for the local administration that selected Jewish candidates,

an annoying procedure to say the least. Particularly for bourgeois family men, as Leosberg rightly points out, what a humiliation for them in relation to their children, how after that can they remain loyal to such a government? There has been no harder time in the history of Russian Jews in Rome, Russia. They were expelled from all positions they had conquered. In another passage, conquered. In another passage, the same author speaks with ambiguity of the bribes received by the officials of the Ministry of the Interior to act in favor of the Jews. This was to soften

somewhat the rigor of the times. You know, again, they had to have known at some level in their psyche the reason for all this. They were never loyal to any real Gentile government. The closest they ever came was in Britain, I think. They could never be loyal to a fairly strictly Orthodox government with a Orthodox emperor actually would be the continuation of the Roman Empire or a continuation of the Byzantine Empire dedicated to defending orthodoxy and destroying its enemies, which is the job, essentially the job description. um being the restraining force for antichrist when of course antichrist is the is the jewish messiah um so but there was always been this tendency in the jewish psyche i mean subconsciously

they know but they don't understand consequences i suppose there were plenty of them that would just think that oh my god they hate us for no good reason how humiliating my god i hate all these people refusing to understand as to why you know they could never you know go to their own people who have done this, caused these problems and condemn them, that was out of the question, but rather they would deflect it onto the Gentiles. It was a classic Jewish neuroticism. But I never, I don't get used to it, that short circuit of the Jewish psyche where Jews as a group are engaged in a policy that's destructive, and then Jews as a group get restricted for that very reason. They can't make that connection in their brains, although subconsciously, of course, they have no choice. And I think a lot of Jewish neuroticism, because they're famous for that, comes from that, comes from that total inability to understand consequences.

Yes, the Jews of Russia were undoubtedly bullied, victims of inequality and civil rights. But this is what reminds us of the eminent cadet VA Makalikoff, who found himself in the emigration after the revolution. The inequality and rights of the Jews naturally lost its acuteness in a state where the enormous mass of the population, 82%, that on which the prosperity of the country depended, the peasantry, dull, mute, submissive, was also excluded from common law the same for all, and it stayed in the same situation after the abolition of serfdom, for it also military service was inescapable, secondary and higher education inaccessible, and it did not obtain that self-induced. administration, the rural Zemstva, which it much needed. Another emigrant, D.O. Linsky, a Jew, even bitterly concluded that in comparison with the leveling up of the Soviets, when the entire population of Russia was deprived of all rights, the inequality and the rights of the Jewish population before the revolution appears like an inaccessible ideal.

We have gotten use of saying, the persecution of the Jews in Russia, but the word is not fair it was not a persecution strictly speaking it was a whole series of restrictions of bullying vexing admittedly painful even scandalous well i'm not you know i think that at least some of that is solstinitin speaking um now the cadet refers to um that's not an actual like a military cadet that's just a nickname for one of the more establishment liberal parties and that became dominant in the federal Duma under Nicholas I second after 1905

and they tend to be of course being liberals they don't have much of a connection with the with the peasantry and is strictly or usually very urban calling the peasantry again that the whole prosperity

of the country depends dull mutant submissive well there certainly aren't liberals they lived under their own law and they wouldn't have it any other way they lived under completely self-governing

either communes or Artels and did have representation in the Zamstva they were known to be quite trude but they certainly were royalists they were extremely hard working and I once

read substantially on how peasants were viewed by urban people when these urban people actually went to live among them for a while and you should hear them the tremendous overwhelming knowledge that the real Russian Orthodox peasant had of the land

and of farming was beyond anything any agronomists could ever understand one of the most common compliments I guess you could call it is that urban people were convinced that peasants can talk to animals because you know their draft animals with horses or even pets

you know cats and dogs for various tasks, they were just extensions of the peasant. They understood the natural world with such a tremendous level of such a tremendously deep grasp. There's nothing that these people couldn't do. They knew more than, yeah, even they may have been just, you know, like semi-literate, but that didn't mean anything. When it came to farming, when it came to everything involved in that kind of life, they were absolutely extraordinary people, even their medicine. Yeah, their population was exploding. They had a, you know, normal 75 years, you know, kind of like ours, life expectancy.

This is, they're, they're extraordinary. Well, common law, same for all. Well, that's not the medieval way. Laws depend on what role you have in the society. You know, a peasant can't be held to the same law as someone who works as a merchant. It doesn't even make sense. Those are two very different kinds of lifestyle. A common law then would have to be so vague that it really wouldn't matter.

The laws that pertain to functions in society, that's the natural law. That's the ancient understanding, going back to ancient Greece onward. Only the modern world came up with the one law. But laws that actually mattered, that was a matter of who you were. And who you were always had an organization, usually an elective organization, organization that oversaw it, you know, a guild, so to speak, and the commune was just one of them, strictly agrarian. So for them to say dull and submissed this, this is typical urban mentality. And, of course, the cadets were liberals.

They didn't understand any of this. And although when they did come across an actual peasant and lived there, I mean, wasn't just, you know, their ideal in their head when they actually worked with them and things like that, they ended up with a completely different point of view as to who these people were. It was the ultimate street smart level when it came to their work. They were considered utter geniuses when it came to soil and working with animals to the point where it was almost superhuman. And that was many years ago when I went through the literature on that particular subject. I never wrote anything on it. I've mentioned it a few times.

but this common BS nonsense that the peasants were just dull and mute that is that's essentially what it is submissive well they accepted the government they believed that it was representative and especially in a religious and ethnic level it was 18th century a very different story but all the things that were very positive I mean the peasants control the land the peasants control you know they they were totally self-governed in their own systems. It was very hard for any law at a higher level to penetrate

the commune. They usually were too large. You had rebellions all the time just for this very reason. It wasn't against the monarchy. But generally a law wasn't a law unless the commune or the Artel accepted it.

And of course, as we all know, enforcement was always very difficult at that level. And this is a period of time where the peasants became the landowners. The nobility was dying out. They had moved to the cities. Many of them had been corrupted, but certainly not all of them.

We talked about the Masonic connection. And the old belief, which was a very literate movement because their entire world revolved around the old books, dominated the peasantry. So it was a very literate part of society, though specifically in Old Slavonic, the ancient books, which they knew at a tremendous. level. You can't be an old believer and not be literate. It doesn't work that way. Now, they had

elective, the old believers had elected everything, you know, clergy, bishops, everything else, going back to old Muscovite tradition. So I get upset when I hear these liberals, like Lakoff talk about this, you know, essentially mocking the people that feed them every day. And keep in mind, too, at this period of time, let's say the turn of the 20th century, Russia was feeding the world. It was this back and forth between the U.S., you know, the Midwest in the, in America and Russian wheat, rye, grain, et cetera, that fed the entire world. Russia was slightly larger in that respect, but it was only, it was limited because, you know, there was a lot, not a lot of that was going on in Siberia, but in the central regions of Russia, the production was extraordinary, despite all the negatives that go along with that soil and weather. and problems with, you know, communications and roads and everything else.

Russia was feeding the world at this point. And when the Soviets took over, they were putting urban people in charge of agriculture, who knew precisely zero about it. The party early on was sending these Jews to create the collectives. They didn't know the first, not only didn't they didn't know the first thing about farming, but they hated it. And they certainly hated the peasantry, which is why the only thing really that the Soviets, especially in the first half of the empire,

could ever deliver and produce was famine. And it's precisely this mentality, you know, trying to turn agriculture into just another mechanized form of production. This is what caused the deaths of millions of people. They didn't understand this about the peasantry. They had this nonsense Judaic conception of the goyum, that, you know, and the ultimate Goyim was either the monarchy on the one hand or the peasants, the Orthodox peasants on the other.

They hated both sides of that. And the fact that it was essentially unified for a long, especially in the Muscovite era, but even under Alexander III, they were still unified in a lot of different ways. And especially the Slavophile movement, they had a very eccentric approach to all of this. You know, and Dostoevsky certainly agreed with this understanding. But the rejection of what a peasant really was, the total lack of understanding is what caused millions of deaths in the 20th century and putting people like him or these Jews in charge of agriculture

who knew nothing, nothing, nothing about it is what caused famine, having no idea what production is in that world. These are the people who put together the collective farms. and were sent to steal anything that wasn't nailed down in the peasant communes, which, of course, they eventually destroyed. You would think that a socialist movement would love the peasant commune, because it was a form of Christian socialism. No, they can give a damn about any of that.

It was about control and destroying the church, far more than it was. You know, you had legitimate, successful socialist enterprises and all the guilds and the communes, even the monasteries. and yet, well, you would think that an actual socialist would like that and nurture it. No, that's the first thing they did was destroy it, because it had nothing to do with labor or the peasantry. But this mentality, the cover story for this coming bond review, I don't know if I mentioned that, is applying this very same insight to the starvation tactics used by the Jews in Kazakhstan. on the governor's appointed by Stalin in that unfortunate part of the Soviet Union were Jews

and their contempt for the population there led to not just massive famine but the population almost fell by half and it's the exact same mentality you put these people in charge of of all things agriculture that's what you're going to get and it comes from this mentality that you don't mute submissive these all sound like insults to me and certainly to a liberal they would be and even in modern academics

that you have peasants were loyal because they didn't know any better well then they don't know very much about the peasantry if that's the case it is unfortunate though that the Jewish elites were able to manipulate them but even as time went on and the reforms especially in Alexander the 2nd

that era that that was it's, you know, that became more and more difficult from the Jewish point of view. But the peasantry was Russia to a great extent. The peasantry and the urban artel, this, this orthodox common population, this was the, this is what, this is what Zarnigalus swore himself to when he first took over because he despised that, same thing for Alexander, despised that arrogant urban point of view looking down on all of these people. And this is why Alexander the third created, the peasant land-owning and land-holding class

that exists at nowhere else in Europe. Around this time, I mean, we've come to a natural stop, and we have a little bit of time. I just wanted to ask you this. From 1880 to about 1900, it appears that there was a, not a mass exodus, but a good deal of Jews from Palo's settlement,

and from Russia had made their way to the United States. Is that correct? Yeah. In fact, I think we spoke about that last time. Was it maybe Saturday or last Wednesday? I think we mentioned that fact. Yeah. And then, you know, people have asked in the past, they're like, well, so when do you think

things really started going wrong, you know, in this country? And I said, well, you know, you can obviously point to the war between the states. but in 1905, the quote-unquote pogrom in Odessa, the United States sanctions Russia. Okay, so why would the United States be sanctioning Russia for a pogrom in the in Odessa in 1905? It seems like it didn't take them less than 20 to 25 years to start having undue influence on the government itself. Yeah, I'm willing to say in that case, sanctions were not. all-encompassing. It's nothing, you know, they'd have any sanctions on the USSR, but they had sanctions on Russia prior to it and, of course, after it. That, I'm willing to bet, came

from pressure from London. God knows the information that they were getting. Americans were getting, coming straight out of London, and to a lesser extent, Paris. London was already a Jewish fief as it was, and the Rothschild's dominated finance. the American banking elite came straight from London, Jewish or no, and I think it was pressure from Britain and bad information because the sanctions or even just the condemnations that Britain placed on Russia and the fact that it housed the revolutionary movement in London for the most part, that had been going on for some time. And don't forget what the propaganda that came out of Britain during the

Crimean War, you know, say, roughly 50 years earlier, roughly. That's where, you know, the anti-Russian, Russophobia that we still deal with today had its beginning there. That the Russian Tsar was Antichrist, Gog and Meghagog, all this stuff. Tsar Gogh was their name for Nicholas I for a while in the London press, that Russians weren't European, that they were savages, all this. this comes from the Crimean era and one of the accusations

was that they don't like Jews they hate Jews for no good reason we in London of course love them and that propaganda had been leaking in and then came in and to a great extent into the US so I'm going to point the finger

to Britain in that regard but the flood of propaganda and I have read this to some great extent about what, you know, just blatant, anti-Russian stuff that was this absolutely mindless during the Crimean War, which Karl Marx, by the way, was very much a part of. He vehemently condemned the anti-war movement in Britain

because Britain wasn't doing well in that war. And you did have anti-war protests that Karl Marx absolutely condemned with every bone in his body because pretty much most of the Judaic socialist movement at the time including people like Engels who wasn't a Jew saw the bulwark against revolution was Moscow

or Russia I should say over and over again they said the same thing now the Rothschild said it over and over again get rid of Russia we won't have any problems you know Austria is very divided Turkey's on its last legs the chaos in the Balkans it's

it's Russia they're too large and when oil was discovered that was that's they freak out. Population was exploding. So I want to blame the British for that, as brief as those sanctions were, only on specific things. My opinion on the matter is prohibition. You know, I had a phase where I studied a lot of organized crime stuff. Prohibition was the start of really the dominance of Jews over organized crime.

in the 20s. And not just that, but the importing of heroin for the first time into the U.S. came from Jewish organized crime. It wasn't, you know, Murder Inc. was a Jewish body. Lucky Luciano later on was very much enthralled to Meyer Lansky. And even before that, Rothstein. they were more powerful than the Italians although the Italians get all of the attention

the Jewish mob was simply simply had more money, they had more power and I would say the Jewish especially then the very early forms of pornography that you can find in the 20 early 30s was Jewish from Rothenburg and then all of a sudden you have this explosion

of First Amendment cases. First Amendment wasn't a big issue prior to the 20s in the U.S. Not a whole lot of cases, especially Supreme Court cases, but all of a sudden, pornography becomes a problem. The same mafia that thrived during prohibition and didn't go away when liquor was legal were deep into porn and girls at the time. I mean, actually, they went together.

That's when I think they came to become a wealthy and very powerful part, a negative part of the American landscape. as an organized force. I'm not saying that they weren't powerful before, but they came into their own as this anti-social force during prohibition because I don't think there's a lot of difference between Jewish power, let's say, in Russia

in this period of time, and how an organized crime syndicate would work, say, in America in the 20s. Because they were ethnic. And whether you like it or not, Normie has to be told that the Jews were far more powerful than the Italians were in that regard, in that era. And they had more money.

They were more bloodthirsty. You know, the Italians, families weren't touched for the Italian mafia. Policemen weren't touched. The Jews, a very different story. They didn't care. They'd kill anyone who got in their way. It's the most powerful mafia in America today. And people couldn't even name one person.

There's no real enforcement. but and they're they're from Russia as well that's why they get to be called the Russian mafia though none of them have Russian names so I think that's when they came into their own then of course FDR I shouldn't even have to say this flood of Jews went into the federal government but again I'm not I'm not against what you said but I think that was a very early manifestation of Jewish power what's interesting is If you, I've probably watched the Godfather part two, 10, 20 times, and they sort of give that away. If Michael wants power, if Michael wants to be able to do what he, what he has to do, he has to get rid of Hyman Roth, who is the, is a stand-in for Meyer-Lansky.

Right. Because Hyman Roth is controlling everything and is standing in his way to even, like, take over a casino in, in Las Vegas. Well, Las Vegas was certainly a Jewish, you know, Bugs. Segal was absolutely their, their creation. But if you watch The Sopranos, wonderful show, you know, that's where I'm from, I know the area very well, who's Hesh? Here's a Jew who gets treated like a made man. I mean, even better than a made man.

He was in on every decision. He was telling Tony what to do, Tony Soprano what to do. And no one, in all the comment, no one asked, who is this? guy. How is this Jew functioning like a made guy? You see it in every mob movie. There's a Jew or two that just have inexplicable amounts of power. I would recommend, if you haven't seen it, is Boardwalk Empire. Yep. I watch every episode for it to back. As far as that, I love it. And it went off the air too early. I'm a big fan of the whole cast,

really. That was pretty accurate. And how Luciano was essentially a student of Lansky and Rothstein. There is nothing wrong. And when Luciano became prominent, the first thing that the old boss has said is, my God, this guy's working for the Jews. He's the one who created a commission and everything else. That was with Jewish money.

Yeah, in that show, Lansky was still fairly young. But you could tell he was making it. He was moving very, very quickly up the ranks. You don't need to be a man. a guy in the Italian sense to have power over the Italian mafia. Hesch in the Sopranos, it's clearly either subconsciously or they deliberately inserted him in. There's no explanation as to the power that this man has.

But it is a recognition, all of these. It's a recognition, a cultural recognition of the fact that Jewish organized crime has always been more powerful than the Italians or the Irish. It pisses me off that they're called Russian mob today. even though it's all Jewish but there's one group you still have these 90 year old Italians getting arrested for gambling or something stupid like that

in Brooklyn but the very powerful and wealthy Jewish mafia in that same part of the world the outer boroughs, nothing happens to them all right we'll pick this up on Saturday

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Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to Part 29 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. How are you done today, Dr. Johnson? you know, it's taken me all these years to realize that space force is an actual thing. It's not like an onion, onion thing. It's, you know, initially I thought it was like a comedy, you know, because they were using the Star Trek logo and things. I thought it was just like an onion parody. But I just realized it really is.

It's a thing. And do you know what they call themselves? You know, like Air Force guys, they're airmen, Navy guys are sailors. Army guys are soldiers. You know what they call themselves? they call themselves guardians like hey guardian get over here now i'm thinking to myself what are the chances let's say let's say i actually knew somebody what are the chances of me ever calling anyone guardian and i thought about it for a while and the chances are absolutely zero

how you're doing they're doing good there was a movie a few years ago called guardians of the galaxy maybe that's where they came up with it. Yeah, I really thought it was just like, I thought it was Donald Trump trolling. What was it, 2019? Yes. And my God, it's a real thing. They have uniforms and everything.

Somebody sent me actually an official pin for Space Force. I have a, like a lapel pin kind of thing. I guess they're technically, they're like, you know, how the Marines relate to the Navy, space relates to the Air Force. so why making a separate branch then would be necessary is a little I don't think the Air Force was all too happy about it just a very odd I just wasn't sure if it was humorous or not

but calling yourself guard first of all that's very pretentious to have you know that's your name that's your title guardian and how anyone could ever use it in a non-sarcastic way is a mystery it's very comic book it's very comic book All right, picking up where we left off. However, the palest settlement over the years was becoming more and more permeable.

According to the census of 1897, 315,000 Jews were already residing outside its boundaries, that is to say, in 16 years a ninefold increase, and this represented 9% of the total Jewish population of Russia, apart from the Kingdom of Poland. Let us compare there were 115,000 Jews living in France and 200,000 in Great Britain. Let us consider also that the census gave undervalued figures in view of the fact that in many cities of Russia, many craftsmen and servants serving authorized Jews did not have an official existence being shielded from registration. Neither the top of the finance nor the educated elite were subject to the restrictions of the pale, and both were established freely in the central provinces and in the capitals.

It is well known that 14% of the Jewish population practice liberal professions, not necessarily the intellectual type. One thing, however, is certain. In pre-revolutionary Russia, the Jews occupied a prominent place in the intellectual occupations. The famous pale of settlement itself did not in any way prevent a large fraction of the Jews from penetrating more and more into the provinces of central Russia. I distinctly remember in college being told early, like freshman year, maybe sophomore year, being told that the pale of settlement was like a prison, Jews weren't allowed to leave it, and it was like a corral or a ghetto for them. And I remember the professor, you know, pompously talking about how awful it was.

And it took me many years to realize what a lie that is. So you still have academics who probably today don't have access to any other point of view given the nature of censorship that they're still talking about they have no access to any alternative piece of information except maybe this book

who actually believe this nonsense. But I think the most interesting thing, first of all, the low numbers in France 200,000, that's it. And they ruled so, you know, the Rothschild family, everything, and almost half that in France? These are minuscule numbers. But 14% of the Jewish population that the Russian government knew of were in the liberal professions, meaning, you know,

a lawyer, accountant, that kind of thing. So even, you know, those kind of stereotypical Jewish professions, even that was too much work for them. That means, Let's say these numbers are accurate, the number of Jews there, they just simply refused to work. I thought that number would be a lot higher. No, it was a syndicate, which is why they hid their numbers. But we've been saying since the beginning that, you know, so much of the Jewish mind politically is focused on compensating for small numbers. but even I didn't realize that there were only 100,000 in France and yet their power, their influence was so extraordinary.

This is absolutely remarkable. The so-called artisanal trades where the Jews were the most numerous were the dentists, the tailors, the nurses, the apothecaries, and a few others, trades of great utility everywhere where they were always welcomed. In 1905, in Russia, more than 1.3 million Jews were engaged in artisanal activities, which meant that they could live outside the pale. And it must not be forgotten either that nowhere in the laws, it was stipulated, for example, that the craftsman who exercises a trade has no right to engage in commerce at the same time. Moreover, the notion of doing business

is not defined by law. For example, deposit selling with commission. Is it trade? Thus, in order to exercise any form of trade, even large-scale trading, to engage in the purchase of real estate and the development of factories, one had to pass as artisan or dentist. For example, the artisan Nemark possessed a factory of 60 workers. Typos thus opened their own printing press. And there existed yet another way. Several people regroup and only one pays the fee of the first guild. The other is pretending to be his clerks, or even to be a adopted in the central province by retired Jewish soldiers. The adopted father received the pension in return.

In Riga, thousands of Jewish families lived on the timber trade until they were expelled due to false attestations. At the dawn of the 20th century, Jewish settlements were found in all Russian cities of some importance. This is precisely how organized crime operates. Their entire world, at least in the east, and this was a lot. a case in the West too, although they had far more power there, is lying about their numbers, lying about their intentions, lying about their jobs, lying about their loyalties. It's a, you know, it's a criminal sort of, you know, mafia style enterprise, you know, fake employees, having all this stuff go under a dentist, you know, this nonsense. And then when they get caught and they get kicked out,

which any normal society would do, they scream oppression. Now, I know this is elementary for people like us, but you just never get used to this, you know, criminality. Criminality as a way of life, almost an ethnic imperative. Jay Tidal testified that the construction of the Samara-Orenberg railway line resulted in the influx of a large number of Jews to Samara. The supervisors of this railway were Jews. Varshavsky Gorvich

For a long time they were also the owners They occupied the control stations As well as a large number of subordinate jobs They brought their families from the pale of settlement And thus a very numerous Jewish colony was formed They also took the export of wheat From the rich province of Samara to foreign countries It should be noted that they were the first to export eggs

From Russia to Western Europe All these activities were carried out by so-called artisans and title enumerates three successive governors of the province of Samara as well as Chief of Police, who previously in 1863 had been excluded from the University of St. Petersburg for having participated in student disorders who closed their eyes to these so-called artisans. Thus, around 1889, there lived in Samara more than 300 Jewish families without a residence permit, which means that in Samara, in addition to the official figures, there were in fact around 2,000 Jews. Stories come to us from another end of Russia at Vyazma.

The three pharmacists, the six dentists, a number of doctors, notaries, many shopkeepers, almost all hairdressers, tailors, shoemakers, were Jewish. All those who appeared as such were not dentists or tailors, many traded, and no one prevented them from doing so. Of its 3,500 inhabitants, Vyazma also had about 2,000 Jews. so this means that if you're reading a book dealing with Jews in Russia

and it says such and such a Jew was a dentist or a medical professional or whatever chances are they really weren't those things they may have had the education or whatever but they use it as a cover for other things just like any organized crime

group would do you never know sometimes they practice sometimes they didn't it's kind of like how they approached You know, it comes down to the fact that anything that may benefit the broader society when they're in so-called exile, that the Goyim, especially, I mean the ultra-Goyim or Russians, loyal Russians to the emperor, anything that would benefit them, even indirectly, they can't do. This is their entire world, and I don't think much has changed. Maybe you have a few more dissenters now, but their entire world is deceit. So you read about them in these, you know, and they're described as one of these professions, and you don't know if that's true. That was simply a cover story. You know, you know, smugly didn't go away. The alcohol issue didn't go away. You know, and of course, the Pail of Settlement was humongous. It was like Western Europe almost in size. Very wealthy. But not even.

even from its foundation, and I think we've already proven that a hundred times here. Was it a place that Jews couldn't leave? It's absolute nonsense. Well, I think the argument that some may make is that, okay, so if the German diaspora that was in Russia at the time had all of these restrictions imposed upon them, they do anything they could to subvert them as well. Right, and we've talked about this before. and you know how many times have we heard this how many times have someone shot back at it as if these restrictions were just out of nowhere and for no reason in fact talking about the the germans or armenians are always a good one they were considered like semi-christians in the russian world who did very well germans did as well as the jews did without any of these restrictions um suggesting that there's something different about the Jews I mean we can't even talk

we can't even talk about education without talking about these numbers of Jews you know I distinctly remember too in college and grad school people talking about quotas on Russian universities only a certain number of Jews could go of course the last thing they'll do

is I did ask why I didn't really get an answer you know as a student I remember that why why were these here were their quotas on Armenians or Arabs. And it was okay. I mean, I wasn't being confrontational. I didn't get in trouble

or anything. But no one's going to ask that unless you already were kind of, you know, hip to the whole thing about what the Jew is. And I love the fact that, you know, so what I'm trying to say is these came into existence really due to Jewish behavior. We talked about in the beginning the privileges that the Jews received that no other group in the Russian Empire had. And everything was immediately subverted for their own

for their own ends. There's a professor who I particularly hate at Notre Dame. I think he's still there. Hamburg, is his name. Who tried to refute the idea that early Bolshevism was Jewish. And he said, well, it wasn't. He said, it's nonsense history.

And even if it was, They're just responding to Russian anti-Semitism. And he, you know, he did his hand like this, like he just made some extraordinary point. And, you know, for someone even to use that, you know, like Russian Jews are semites, for someone to be that ignorant, I'm pretty sure he's in the history department. And this is so common because, you know, to this day, he doesn't really know the numbers or the percentages or anything. He has no access to that. Even if he did, he'd probably run screaming. but it all comes down to refusing to ask the question why.

Official anti-Semitism, you know, they can't even go to school without subverting it. It's like they have no right to defend themselves. These things didn't come from nowhere. These kind of restrictions are quite costly. But it always reminds me of the great Empress Elizabeth, one of the few shining lights of Russia in the 18th century with a very few shining lights and when she threw the Jews out I think we covered it briefly she issued a decree to throw them out prior to the Polish Empire collapsing and businessmen begged her please don't we're going to lose all this money and she said I don't care this isn't about money And, of course, in a republic, or so-called democracy, that could never happen, because it is all about money. Only in a country where the monarchy is stronger than private enterprise, which is a specifically eastern concept in the West that can never happen.

When a monarchy is stronger than the oligarchs, you're going to get rational policies, and they're going to say, I don't care, has nothing to do with money, you guys will live. It was one of the reasons that the monarchy was so popular. One of the reasons that any of these restrictions existed was because of a strong monarchy. That was more powerful than the Jews, which is why they had to go as far as the Jews were concerned. All the factory legislation, you know, it didn't matter if it was expensive. Workers need this. In a republic, that could never happen. This is why Russia and Germany, two strong monarchies were the main countries for

from labor legislation in the middle, the end of the 19th century, Alexander III in particular. And it's the same thing for the Jews. The only chance of them getting kicked out, they were kicked out of republics too, but a monarchy didn't have to worry about these income issues. And so it was costly to restrict them. It was costly to get rid of them.

But it was worth it. because wherever they went, chaos followed. And that continues to this day. Any of these restrictions, costly restrictions, it doesn't come out of nowhere. They don't come out of nowhere. It's written in chaos and blood and the neurotic Jewish, almost automatic knee-jerk need

to repress any society that's not their own. In the region of the Army of the Don, where several restrictions were imposed on Jews in 1880 and where they were forbidden to reside in Cossack villages and suburbs of the cities, there were nevertheless 25,000 keepers of inns and buffets, barbers, watchmakers, tailors, and any delivery of quantity of goods, no matter the size, depended on them. Well, wait a minute. Let's be clear. The entire reason for the Cossack's existence was to smash. the Jewish slave trade. Later on, it was to smash the Jewish oligarchy in Poland.

If there's one place a Jew doesn't want to go, it's a Cossack village. And I guarantee you that they were using intermediaries. I mean, they may have been a silent partner. The Cossacks were one group of people that guaranteed want nothing to do with the Jews. Severe restrictions. They're lucky that they were able to walk out of there.

Again, it shows you the arrogance. think they could do this. But I believe that, not in the village itself, but in the outskirts, you know, they had to be very, very careful. The system of restrictions on the rights of the Jews with the whole range of corrections, reservations, and amendments thereto had been built up stratum after stradum over the years. The provisions aimed at the Jews were scattered in the various collections of laws promulgated at different times, badly harmonized among themselves, badly amalgamated with a common laws of the empire. The governor has complained of it. We must try to penetrate the mysteries

of the innumerable derogations, special cases, exceptions of exceptions, which swarmed the legislation on the Jews to understand what journey of the combatant this represented for the ordinary Jew and what puzzle for the administration. Such complexity could only engender formalism with its succession of cruelties thus, when a head of a family, domiciled in a central Russian province lost his rights of residence after his death or as a result of a change of profession, his whole family lost it with him. Families were thus expelled after the death of the head of the family, with the exception of single persons over 70 years of age. However, complexity did not always play in disfavor of the Jews. It sometimes

played to their advantage. Authors write that it was the police commissioners and their deputies who were responsible for settling the endless wavering in the applications of the restrictive measures, which resulted in the use of bribes and to the circumvention of the law, always favorable to the Jews. There were also perfectly workable legal solutions. The contradictory nature of the innumerable laws and provisions of Jews offers the Senate a broad spectrum of interpretations of legislation. In the 90s, most of the provisions appealed by the Jews were annulled by the Senate. The highest dignitaries often closed their eyes to non-compliance with anti-Jewish restrictions.

As G. Slayersberg testified, for example, ultimately, Jewish affairs depended on the head of the police department, Pieter Nikolayevich Dumavo. The latter was always open to the complainant's arguments, and I must say, to be honest, that if the application of any restrictive regulation were contrary to human charity, Duonovo would look into the matter and resolve it favorable. well this shouldn't surprise anybody anybody who's been following these discussions how many commissions that we've been talking about how many laws how many laws on laws how many cases how many interpretation of cases and cases on cases have we dealt with

just with this one small group of people so the fact that by now um jews have been in large numbers in russia were coming up on 100 years here that there's going to be this tremendous complexity and when he says that that sometimes serves Jewish interests that made me smile because this is their turf their you know

the Talmudic mind is always trying to you know split hairs on everything it's part of their mentality and when that didn't work they simply bribe people so now would they be restrictions or something else

Now, because of how many decades have gone by, it actually works against the state because there's so many of them, and they're probably contradictory at all levels of government, that now they're very difficult to enforce. Again, bribery took care of anything else. It also shows you that despite Russia being a strong monarchy, they were very interested in following the law. Only in extreme cases could they nullify something. usually something like a debt, you know, they would wipe out or something like that, you know, offering the serfs. You know, these things could only be done very strong monarchy. You know, the U.S. had this civil war. Alexander II just signed a document.

But regardless of that power, they still were very concerned with the law. But in this case, it was so complex and contradictory that now it's working in the Jewish. favor. This is a Jewish home field advantage, no doubt. Rather than the new laws, it was the provisions tending to a harder application of the old laws, which were felt most painfully by the broad sections of the Jewish population. The process, discreet but irreversible, by which the Jews gradually penetrated into the provinces of central Russia, was sometimes stopped by the administration, and some duly orchestrated episodes went down in history.

This was the case in Moscow after the retirement of the all-powerful and almost irremovable Governor General V.A. Dolgorukov, who had regarded with great kindness the arrival of the Jews in the city and their economic activity. The key to this attitude obviously resides in the person of the great banker Lazar Salaminovich Poliakov, with whom Prince Dolgorokov had friendly ties, and who, evil tongues affirmed, had opened to him his bank, had opened to him and his bank an unlimited line of credit. That the prince had need of money, there was no doubt about it, for he had yielded all his fortune to his son-in-law, while he himself loved to live it up and also had great

spendings. Consequently, El Poliochov was covered year after year with honors and distinctions. thanks to this, the Jews of Moscow felt a firm ground beneath their feet. Every Jew could receive the right of residence in the capital without actually putting himself at the service of one of his co-religionists, a merchant of the first guild. I think people who have been following this discussion are starting to see a little bit of a repeat of the Polish situation.

E. Michael Jones talks about it with the Churchill family in Britain. when you're a powerful man Gentile especially a powerful man that doesn't know a whole lot about the Jewish issue like obviously this guy didn't in the beginning

and you realize that because you're powerful this is essentially what a rent is Jews need you and so the credit that they're willing to extend is pretty extraordinary you know unlimited almost

it says here and so then the temptation would be just to not care. They're not going to be careful with their finances or even care about their finances with this unlimited credit. The temptation is to say, okay, you know, Lazard, just take care of that stuff for me. And of course, you know that when Poliakov was talking to him, he was the nicest man, flattering, you know, whatever he needed to hear.

This is precisely how they operated in the Polish Empire. so the ingredients seem to be the guy has to be generally ignorant of the Jewish issue he has to be powerful he has to come in contact with a powerful Jew in wherever city he lives in and the Jew has to be charming enough

to create this connection oh don't worry about those financial problems I'll take care of it don't worry about it and now you have a guy both literally and figuratively, indebted to powerful Jews in the city. That seems to be how it works.

So the temptation is always going to be, otherwise he was a good man. But the temptation is always going to be, I don't have to worry anymore. So I'm not going to be strict about my finances or keeping accurate book. He's taken care of that. This has been, that was a Polish method of Jewish control. And we see in certain places it's happening here. Of course, Russia is not Poland, especially politically, and both under Alexander III and Nicholas II, they were more than aware of the Jewish question. But this is just one example about how they're able to approach a powerful man and handle his economic affair.

This is exactly what they did in the Polish Empire. You know, when you bring up the way Jews manipulate the currency and the way they operate and the way they operate, and the way they operated in Europe. Inevitably somebody is going to say, well, they were invited in by Gentiles to do this, as if that excuses the Jewish behavior. Yeah, well, that's where the ignorance comes in. You invite them in because you really aren't sure,

or that, or you're totally desperate, and you just need the money. One of those two reasons. Jesus Leosberg informs us that Dolgorukov was accused of yielding too much to the influence of Poliakoff, and he explains Poliakoff was the owner of the Moscow mortgage lending, so neither

in the province of Moscow nor in any neighboring province could any other mortgage bank operate, i.e. granting advances on property mortgage funds. Now, there was no nobleman possessing land that did not hypothesate his possessions.

Such was the defeat of the Russian nobility at the end of the 19th century, and after that, of what use could it still be for Russia. These noblemen found themselves in a certain dependence on banks to obtain large loans, all sought the favors of Lazar Poliakoff. I thought they were oppressed. I thought they were confined to the bail of settlement.

Here they're ruling the financial world, not the currency. And we're supposed to believe these professors who say how awful it was. Well, you know, anyway, keep going. Under the Magistry of Do you know how to pronounce that name properly so I can stop butchering it? Dogorukov. Okay. Under the magistrate of Dogorukov, around the 90s, there were many recruitments of Jews in the body of merchants of the First Guild. This was explained by the reluctance of Muscovite merchants of Christian denominations to pay the high entrance fees of the First Guild.

Before the arrival of the Jews, the Muscovite industry worked only for the eastern part of the country, for Siberia, and its goods did not run westward. It was the Jewish merchants and industrialists who provided the link between Moscow and the markets of the western part of the country. Title confirms that the Jews of Moscow were considered the richest and most influential in Russia. Threatened by the competition, German merchants became indignant and clues Dolgorokhov of favoritism toward the Jews. But the situation changed dramatically in 1891. The new Governor General of Moscow, the Grand Duke Sergei Alexandre, Alexandrovich, an almighty man due to his position and dependent on no one due to his fortune, took the decision to expel all the Jewish craftsmen from Moscow without any preliminary inquiry

as to who was truly a craftsman and who pretended to be a craftsman. Whole neighborhoods. Let me stop you right there. Go ahead. Let me stop you right there. This is exactly what I've been talking about. Alexandrovich is independent. he doesn't need Jewish money

therefore he's going to be far more objective than anybody else and if he actually made a distinction or tried to see who was a craftsman and who wasn't let's say he started an investigation what that was going to happen then first of all the Jews will probably take it over he's dealing with master manipulators they're going to be able to manipulate everybody

and God knows who they were going to be able to bribe so it wasn't possible to do that. So, in other words, in a healthy society, and it was healthy at the time in Russia, especially compared to Britain at the time, in a healthy society, so long as you're not in direct thrall to Jewish money and you're capable of thinking objectively, you're going to come to a decision like this. And so here's a powerful man that they couldn't really approach because he had his own money kind of like you know the emperor you can't really you know he he has a tremendous power he can't be bribed or how do you bribe the emperor and say same thing

for a guy like this so given his position and his fortune i forget precisely where it came from but um he didn't have to listen to anybody it's an objective um situation where he's able to think clearly, unlike his predecessor, knowing enough about the Jews to realize that any investigation, that's all they need is not a commission, any investigation is going to be totally hijacked and manipulated, and just add to all of the complex laws on the question anyway, he just said, you're gone. I'm going to read that first part again for people who want to rewind at this point. But the situation changed dramatically in 1891, the new governor general of Moscow, the Grand Duke, Sergei Alexandrovich, an almighty man due to his position and dependent on no one due to his fortune, took the decision to expel all the Jewish craftsmen from Moscow without any preliminary inquiry as to who was truly a craftsman and who pretended to be a craftsman.

Whole neighborhoods, Zariadi, Marina Rocha were empty to their inhabitants. It is estimated that as many as 20,000 Jews were expelled. They were allowed a maximum of six months to liquidate their property and organize their departure, and those who declared that they did not have the means to ensure their displacement were shipped in prison vans. At the height of the expulsions, yeah, at the height of the expulsions and to control how they were executed, an American government commission, Colonel Weber, Dr. Camster, went to Russia.

The astonishing thing is that Sliusberg brought them to Moscow, where they investigated what was happening, how measures were applied to stem the influx of Jews, where they even visited the Bouturka prison incognito, where they were offered a few pair of handcuffs, where they were given the photographs of the people who had been sent in the vans, and the Russian police did not notice anything. These were the Kree love Moors. They visited again for many more weeks, other Russian cities. The report of this commission was published in 1892 in the document.

documents of the American Congress to the greatest shame of Russia and to the liveliest relief of Jewish immigration to the United States. It is because of this harassment that Jewish financial circles, Baron de Rathschild, in the lead, refused in 1892 to support Russian borrowing abroad. There had already been attempts in Europe in 1891 to stop the expulsion of the Jews from Moscow. The American Jewish banker Seligman, for example, went to the Vatican to ask the Pope to intercede with Alexander III and exhort him to more moderation. Why? He think that they're all Christians are Christians? I mean, could he really have been that eager? You just think, well, they're all Christians. It doesn't matter. All right. The guy doesn't understand schisms at all.

In 1891, a part of the expelled Jews settled without permission in the suburbs of Moscow. But in the fall of 1892, following the measures taken, an order was made to expel from Moscow, soldiers of the retired contingent and members of their families not registered in the communities. It should be noted that in 1893, the large Russian commercial and industrial enterprises intervened to soften these measures. Then from 1890, there was almost no registration of Jews in the First Guild of Moscow Merchants. I think we need to enroll the Grand Duke here into the pantheon of heroes because his measures, and I'm sure he was more than aware of what was going to happen.

But he had every reason to do what he did. And, you know, they were lying when they said, oh, we don't have, you know, these wealthy Jews, we don't have any money to move. Yeah, sure. So he had, you know, had them kicked out physically. So we all know what happened. They went directly to powerful Jewish bankers in the U.S., say, go to the, or I'm sure they did the same in Britain too.

Have your government pressure, because this is outrageous. How dare they? We've done nothing wrong. And I should note that the Russian borrowing was short-term and was very, Russia was a creditor nation, you know, just like today. So borrowing, I'm not sure he, you know, who he thought he was dealing with. But Russia is very much like, Alex Androvic to me, you had a strong monarchy, they had full control over the currency and really weren't borrowing very much. I mean, very short-term stuff, like every country has to do. So they didn't

have a whole lot of leverage. And of course, throughout all of it, the Americans visit, I'm sure, very pompously walking around, these savages, how dare they? Don't they know that these are the chosen people? And so, and of all people, Alex End of the Third, he's the last person that's going to be moved by this he was you know Alexandrovich was very much

a type of of Alexander what the Pope was going to do I really yeah that's I remember reading that the first time and I completely I forgot about it

but Jews had a lot of weapons at their disposal and they knew once you have someone like the Grand Duke here doing one what he absolutely has to do. I mean, he took an oath to protect his society and his city. And this follows that completely. And you know the stories that they were telling. Oh, my God,

we were hung in prison by chains and they were stabbing us with ice picks. You know, of course, and Western media is writing it down, you know, no criticism. You know, that's what they were saying. And no one asked why. These are very, very powerful people lying through their teeth about it. But the fact that they were almost immediately able to get the U.S. Congress to send people. The British were outraged, you know, Rothschild. They didn't have tons of leverage, though. You know, Russia's one of the few, especially the empire at the time, one of the few places in the world that could be totally, totally self-sufficient.

There wasn't tons of international trade. They had everything they needed. The U.S. may be one of those countries, too. so they didn't have a lot of leverage over Russia so this was very frustrating but I don't know if this Moscow expulsion would count as one of the 109 or it has to be actually an independent political unit

so I think we need to enroll him as one of our people posthumously In 1893 a new aggravation of the fate of the Jews arose the Senate first noticed the existence of a bulletin issued by the Minister of the Interior in force since 1880, the Charter of the Charter of Jewish Freedom, which allowed Jews who had already established themselves outside the Pala settlement illegally, however, to remain where they

were. This bulletin was repealed, except in Coralyn and Livonia, where it was retained. The number of families who had settled over the last 12 years amounted to 70,000. Fortunately, thanks to Durno, life-saving articles were enacted, which, in the end, prevented the immense catastrophe that threatened. In 1893, certain categories of Jews were expelled in turn from Yalta, for the summer residents of the Imperial family was not far away, and they were forbidden any new settlement there. The always increasing influx of the number of Jews in the city of Yalta, the appetite for real estate threatens this holiday resort of becoming purely and simply a Jewish city. Here could have been at play after all the terrorist attacks in Russia, the security of the

imperial family in its residence in Lovadia. Alexander III had every reason to believe he was only one year away from his death that he was cordially hated by the Jews. It is not possible to exclude motive the idea of avenging the persecution of the Jews, as can be deduced by the choice of terrorist targets. Scipiagan, Plev, Grand Duke, Surge. This did not prevent many Jews from remaining in the Yalta region, judging from the inhabitants of Alushta, wrote in 1909, complaining that the Jews, buyers of vineyards

exploit to foster their development the work of the local population, taking advantage of the precarious situation of said population and granting loans at exorbitant rates, which ruined the Tatar's inhabitants of the site. Okay, well, clearly we're talking about Crimea and places close by. Alexander III again Not an idiot All of a sudden Jews are buying land like crazy

And it is a very beautiful part of the world I mean you can't deny it All of a sudden There is this huge influx of Jews to the area Well Given the fact that terrorism in Russia Was almost exclusively a Jewish concern Although because of Alexander's

Enforcement It had been minimized It would change after his death and terrorism just was out of control then but despite the fact that these were very wealthy people the fact that they were being exposed for what they were

as a reason why they hated Alexander they hated the monarchy and they hated his as a group of people who they murdered they murdered a whole bunch of people in other words

keeping them away and you know obviously when this policy is discussed they don't mention anything about the Jewish role in terrorism but buying all this property in and around where the summer residence

was was a way to kill him and I like how this aside that yeah when they moved in they immediately ruined the tartars from you know as if it's just like you know spreading of smallpox wherever they go

and tartars by the way then and now were fairly loyal You know, they're not ethnic Russians, but they're very pro-Russian, always have been. And this is definitely in this hour, and certainly now. So that was just kind of like an aside, a fun thing that they can do while they're there. So, yeah, this was how they operated.

One of the proofs that Jews would just do anything to get rid of the monarch, that he was enemy number one. You know, the Jews could have gone, like we talked about going to the Pope. they could have gone to the Holy Center they could have gone to the Metropolitan because they didn't have a patron at this time and went there but I have the feeling they would get anywhere

they already had an inn with the Pope of Rome because the Ross Child family was his banker I think at this point on Ross Childs were handling a lot of like Gil Florentines used to

handling paper finances so he had an in there you didn't have an in a Russian church I guess that's the closest we can do why they didn't go to the Patriot of Constantinople now that I think about it is interesting they definitely had it in there unless at the time

I mean you know still Turkish territory still it's very fascinating but this was an assassination plot you can't convince me otherwise and okay well we can't We can't buy up everything.

There's poor oppressed people who could buy up an entire region. So we'll ruin the Tartars, the loyal group of people, just for, you know, that'll be the silver medal in all this. But there was also another thing in the favor of the tireless struggle against smuggling. The right of residents of the Jews in the Western Frontier Zone was limited. There was, in fact, no further expulsion, with the exception of individuals caught in the act of smuggling. According to memorialists, there's this smuggling, which could. insisted in passing the frontier to revolutionaries in their printed works, continued until the First World War.

In 1903, 1904, a debate ensued. The Senate provides that the provisional regulations of 1882 shall not apply to the frontier zone, and that accordingly, Jews residing in that area may freely settle in the rural areas. The Council of the province of Bessarabia then issued a protest informing the Senate that the entire Jewish population in the border area, including those where Jews had illegally settled there, was now seeking to gain access to the countryside where there were already more Jews than needed, and the border area now risked becoming for the Jews the promised area. The protest passed before the council estate, which, taking into account the particular case

of rural localities, squarely abolished the special regime of the border area, bringing it back to the general regime of the pale of settlement. This softening, however, did not find significant echo in the press or in society, no more than the lifting in 1887 of the prohibition of Jews to hire Christian servants, nor did the 1891 Act introducing into the Penal Code a new article on responsibility in the events of an open attack on part of the population by another, an article that the circumstances of life in Russia had never required, but which had been sorely lacking during the pogroms of 1881.

For greater caution, it was now introduced. I think that at this point, we've shown that there is a huge difference between intelligence and deviousness. You know, again, I go back to organized crime, which this is very much like. These guys are brilliant in their area. They're not educated. They're often incredibly ignorant, but they're devious, very different from intelligence. And the Jews show a pretty much short-sighted thinking, but deviousness was their primary virtue, because everything that they were in public was a lie.

Then and now, especially now. the problem that the Jews faced at the time is that it was a very healthy society with a popular monarch who unfortunately I mean history would have been completely different if Alexander didn't die a fairly young man he died of natural causes sort of came from the train wreck

was a kidney thing he was a firm populist yeah Jews hated him just for just for what he was let alone for what he did I love that they mentioned We're very close to Khazaria here, by the way, historically. And, you know, this was an organized crime ring. And the very fact that there was a huge debate over whether they should be allowed to live in border areas.

Well, if there's one group of people who seem to be drawn to borders, it's Jews. Smuggling regardless of the law just came very natural, naturally to that. Off the top of my head, I don't remember exactly what they were doing. you know I don't know if they were trying to get Russians hooked on opium like they they had done the Sassoon family had done with the Chinese I've never heard of anything like that but clearly they were doing something illegal the Russians didn't even know how many there were you know they they were masters at this devious hate-filled absolutely hate-filled way of life but you have whole governments now saying they can't live near the border. This was a criminal syndicate. And we live in an era today where I think we've mentioned this already with the Jewish mafia, the so-called Russian mafia, if there's anything that pisses me off, it's amazing,

Russian mafia, they don't have Russian names, isn't that weird? To this day, rules whole areas with zero enforcement I don't know if you've read Friedman's Red Mafia I read that years ago and even as a Jew he says what there's no action against these people it's because we live in an unhealthy

society and a healthy society there's going to be there's going to be action these people were revolutionaries now you can't tell me that everything that we read about the Jews when they went to the you know leftist revolution that they gave a damn. The last group of people

that they cared about was the Russian peasant. They hated them. That's high level volume in their mind. And they were treated accordingly after the revolution. We talked about

why they went after the proletarian. It had nothing to do with their interest. It's just that they were an easy target. I think that's what, you know,

there's a reason that Karl Marx or even Lenin never talked about what kind of society is going to exist once we get what we want. It was always negative. It was always condemning what exists.

You know, Karl Marx is probably the only major political theorist that didn't give a description of what's supposed to happen afterwards. Very odd. And it's because, you know, they can't do that. Yeah, Soviet Marxism was real Marxism, especially given the fact that Marx hated, hated, hated Russia's. Wherever Jews go, I mean, they don't like Ukrainians either, but this concept of the third Rome, the Baxon of orthodoxy against revolution, Russia was the warrior against revolution throughout the 19th century. Karl Marx and every other leftist revolutionary. I have paper after paper on this, saying if Russia goes, we can win. If Russia stays under the monarchy, we can't win.

and they've intervened many times to protect other monarchies who've never appreciated it like in Austria from revolution so revolutionaries just meant a way that they can take over the wealth of a society it's like again consider an organized crime group

and say the mafia decides that they're going to get political and they say we want a revolution so we could give power back to the people well no one's going to believe that It's a criminal group. Just like we wouldn't believe them if they said that, we shouldn't believe the Jews then. My book, The Soviet Experiment, published by the Barnes Review, is a lengthy essay explaining this in detail. That nothing, I don't care what language they used, I don't care the theory that they had.

The revolution, Marxism in general, had nothing to do with labor, had nothing to do with farmers, had nothing to do with the peasantry. If anything, it was destroying a society that they hated. Nothing in the Soviet Union ever served the interest of labor. And that goes for any society. No unions were permitted. Actual communal enterprises were destroyed. The minute they took over, that's not what they're talking about. This was a Jewish movement.

It was about ushering in the age of the Messiah by destroying especially in Russia the ultimate target, which would be the emperor himself. And so that's what we're seeing here. We're seeing just this criminality. Even when you talk about legitimate professions, but we don't know if that's true. We've just read that they're lying about who they were.

They're lying about being in these professions. They were either smugglers. Whatever required the least amount of work to maintain a very strong, income. And these people had the nerve when the Grand Duke was kicking them out of Moscow. Oh, we can't. We don't have the money. Well, this guy obviously knows you're lying. But this is what a healthy society is going to do. And you see the weapons that they were forced to pull out using other countries. Again, that's really no different than the opium wars against China, the Crimean

war, the war today against Russia, this is essentially the same process. The fact that the Jews were, you know, with the Sassoon family in particular, were the ones running the opium trade in China.

Under the British flag, you know, under, you know, the India companies, such as they were at the time, East India Company, that, you know, there's still an organized criminal gang. and just like we wouldn't believe

if the mafia said we want to start killing presidents because we want power to the people you wouldn't believe this. This was for their interest and this is why they can never say what society is going to look like once we take over. I think Engels mentioned a few things. There was a line

here and there but this Jewish revolutionary, this is to destroy the last resistance to their Messiah which would be the Russian crown and to kill as many of these people as possible had nothing to do with the peasantry

who they almost exterminated and yet to this day you go anywhere even some of our own people talking Marxism is so concerned with equality which by the way never mentioned in Marxism by the way but I think we're learning here that this all comes down to their devious nature

the fact that they can live an entire double life and have no cognitive dissident I mean, they are neurotic people, but it really is remarkable. And to some extent, you've got to be envious of this ability. And the only thing that's changed now is that their power is so thoroughgoing that they don't have to be as sneaky. But they knew that it was risky, especially in a very healthy society, despite the Masonic takeover of some of the upper nobility. It was still a healthy society And so

That's why they needed World War I No war, no revolution And it was so weird for them As wealthy people Talking about, you know, liberating the workers That they had no contact with That they knew nothing about And actually having people to this day

Believe it And of course treating them like absolute garbage After they took over so yeah that was Marxism that was socialism at least in that leftist you know materialist sense so this this all derives from their incredible ability at acting a charming when necessary wearing many faces having many personalities depending on what's what's needed and I don't know the bulk of Americans I don't think will ever fully understand what they're dealing with.

All right. We'll leave it there and come back for episode 30 next week. I'm having a good time. I'm having a good time. Yeah, this is great. This is great. We haven't had a negative comment on this yet. Not a negative one.

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the battery powered ones I got to go out and do it after this show so I'm not sure how it's going to go but it absolutely has to to get done. The packet was lost in shipping, as pretty much everything is in USBs these days. So it's going to bring, it's going to bring back some memories, I think. Yay, summer.

I lucked out today. I was supposed to mow the lawn today, but it started branding. So I get to put it off until tomorrow. That is lucky. All right. Jumping in, picking up where we left off last time. And again, let us repeat. limitations on the rights of the Jews never assumed a racial character in Russia. They applied

neither to Karites, nor to the Jews in the mountains, nor to the Jews of Central Asia, who, scattered and merged with the local population, had always freely chosen their type of activity. The most diverse authors explained to us, each one more than the other, that the root causes of the restrictions suffered by Jews and Russia are of an economic nature. The Englishman Jay Parks, the great defender of these restrictions, nevertheless expresses this reservation. Before the war of 14 through 18, some Jews had concentrated considerable wealth in their hands. This had led to fear that abolishing these limitations would allow the Jews to become masters of the country. Professor V. Leontovic, a perfectly consistent liberal, notes, until recently, we seem to be unaware that the restrictive measures imposed on Jews,

came much more from anti-capitalist tendencies than from racial discrimination. The concept of race was of no interest to Russia in those years, except for specialists in ethnology. It is the fear of the strengthening of the capitalist elements which could aggravate the exploitation of peasants and of all the workers, which was divisive. Many sources prove this. Let us not forget that the Russian peasantry had just undergone the shock of a sudden mutation, from the transition of feudal relations to market relations, a passage to which it was not at all prepared and which would throw it into an economic maelstrom, sometimes more pitiless than serfdom itself.

Yeah, using these Western European words, including market relations or serfdom, it's, it distorts them a little bit. Other than in the 18th century, for very specific reasons that we've dealt with. Serfdom was not a terrible institution. It was necessary. The only thing peasants really care about is land, and it guaranteed that. And they were freed.

They really, it only affected like, there's only 30% of the peasantry was peasant in any kind of feudal system, maybe 40%. So many of the rest have been freed long before. In 1861, it didn't apply to everybody, but they were they the commune was empowered

and their land holdings were you know through discussion and it usually had to do with the size of the family how much you needed and these things were always so that's not exactly a market relation around this time though

you Vita Sturipin you know that changed just before the war but you notice besides that I've said that the carrites would never be involved with any of these restrictions the Jews of the mountains I don't know what they're talking about unless they're Samaritans Jews of Central Asia also Karaites to a great extent they were kind of cut off from Jews everywhere it was Talmudis and it's very clear you know the Jews would love everyone to believe

that you're just jealous or that they're so much better than you. You hate them. You blame all your problems on them. They don't control anything. You're crazy. But in all the famous 109 places, and I've looked at so many of them over the years in detail, it's shocking how similar it all is. Unfair, competitive practices, prostitution, various types of, you know, what we would call pornography.

You know, white slavery, that comes up now and again, abuse of Christian servants, people working for them, abuse of employees. But for the most part, you know, what we consider the market today in this cutthroat competition, that's very recent. And that comes from, as Jews themselves will tell you, from the Jewish mentality that really came into its own around this time. the guild system specialization you know advertising that didn't exist and wherever the Jews went

they brought a lot of these you know underselling dumping you know these terms that we use now that came from one place and time after time after time after time this is the complaint

and it always seems that the Gentiles didn't know what they were getting into. Jews had been mastering these Machiavellian tactics that did not exist in the Christian world. I don't know about it in other places, but it's shocking how consistent. It's the same thing. The accusations were over the last 1,500 years. And of course, it's identical here and it's identical now. V. Shulgin writes in this regard as follows. The limitation of the rights, of the rights of the Jews and Russia was underpinned by a humanistic thought.

It was assumed that the Russian people, taken globally, or at least some of their social strata, was, in a way, immature, effeminate, that it allowed itself to be easily exploited, that for this reason it had to be protected by state measures against foreign elements stronger than itself. Northern Russia began to look at the Jews with the eyes of Southern Russia. The little Russians had always seen the Jews, whom they knew well in the day, of their coexistence with Poland under the guise of the pawnbrokers who suck the blood of the unfortunate Russian. The restrictions were designed by the government to combat the massive

economic pressure that put the foundations of the state at risk. Parks also detects in this vision of things a part of truth. He observes the disastrous effect, which the faculty of exploiting one's neighbor may have, and the excessive role of inkeepers and usurers in the rural areas of Eastern Europe, even if he perceives the reasons for such a state of affairs in the peasant's nature more than in the Jews themselves. In his opinion, the vodka trade as the main activity of the Jews in Eastern Europe gave rise to hatred and among the peasants even more than among the others. It was he who fed more than one pogrom, leaving a deep and broad scar in the consciousness

of the Ukrainian and Belarusian peoples as well as in the men. memory of the Jewish people? Well, you know, those memories, you know as well as I do, that they're very different and they're not interpreted even remotely in the same way. But what Chilgain is saying here is very odd. I, um, that it can be easily exploited, but we've gone through that. Any Christian population, or really anyone that doesn't have experience with Jews is going to, you know, not be prepared for what happened.

I don't have time to get into it now, but the Jewish kosher abattoir in Postville, Iowa. I was one of the few people to talk about it. The Jews went in, completely destroyed the town. I have a paper on that. The people that were living in this little town, rural America, had no idea. They thought the Jews were like Jerry Seinfeld. So it's not specific to Russia. I'm not sure what he really means here.

Now, we've already discussed that peasants were anything but stupid. They were knowledgeable and they could be very devious. You know, they knew their interests. But tactics, and again, the other thing that keeps showing up over and over again is alcohol. What they do, you know, it's not just taverns. We talked about that too. There's a lot that went on in taverns. That was the locus of prostitution, both rural and urban.

They were out to destroy the family. There was no problem for them. The Jewish connection to pornography is overwhelming on both sides of Europe and the U.S. But, and the use of alcohol is another one, especially, I'd say the last 7, 800 years, alcohol comes up increasingly. I'm not sure about, I don't remember about the Roman ones, but even in the late Roman Empire, they're everyone saying, you know, even Republicans were saying the exact same things about Jews as everyone else.

The alcohol is something that really came into its own in Russia. And that was just another form of manipulation that no one is prepared for. And talking about southern Russia, what you mean roughly Ukraine in the Caucasus, because most of Ukraine was under the polls, prior to the partitions of Poland they know the Jews extremely well

that's why the Cossacks came into existence Central regions not so much and even certain parts of the northern regions and in Siberia they weren't aware there was no serfdom in the north or in Siberia ever at any time and whatever existed in Ukraine came from the Poles

but there's nothing humanistic about it. You know, I remember, Karl Marx, the whole anti-capitalist thing, it doesn't exist now because socialism has been taken over by these people. There's been a lot of versions of socialism

that were not Judaic and that were not materialist. But the Udayan Fragha, I've got to do something on that. I've read it many times. And, I mean, if you're going to oppose capitalism, especially finance capitalism, and somehow

claim that the Jews are not the dominant player, then either you're lying or you just shouldn't have any opinions at all about this because you're an idiot. And Karl Marx wasn't afraid to talk about it. So, you know,

that's something that Marxists, I think, would rather forget. Same thing for the anarchist under Bakunan. Marx changed his tune later with Rothschild money, at least according to the anarchist movement. So there's a lot

going on here. But I don't think there was anything specifically effeminate or weak about the peasantry that they needed protection it's true every society needs protection from the Jews but what we've been reading for the last 30 episodes

suggests mostly there have been failures to do it every attempt to try to make them into normal people has failed because they're not normal people has nothing is not a racial matter as we've already discussed that has simply to do with their behavior their survival strategies in the culture that built was built in the kaha'al and even as early as a kuzar

empire. We read in many authors that the Jewish innkeepers lived very hard, without a penny, that they were almost reduced to begging. But was the alcohol market as narrow as that? Many people grew fat with the intemperance of the Russian people and the landowners of Western Russia and the distillers and the drinking housekeepers and the government. The amount of revenue can be estimated from the time it was entered as national revenue. After the introduction of a state monopoly on spirits in Russia in 1896 with the abolition of all private debits and the sale of beverages by excise tax, the Treasury collected 285 million rubles in the following year to report to the 98 millions of the direct tax levied on the population. This confirms not only was

to manufacture of spirits a major source of indirect contributions, but also that the spirits industry revenues, which until 1896 only paid four COPECs of excise duty per degree of alcohol produced, were much higher than the direct revenues of the empire. Now, this comes up every once in a while in discussions in this topic. What I say is that there's, you know, the difference between a country like Russia or Germany or even the Byzantine Empire, we have a strong centralized monarchy, I mean, strong relative to the time period is that the monarchy was strong enough to take action even when there was a lot of money involved. Nicholas II tried to eliminate this trade, especially just before the war

and even as the war began. Now, if this were the West, there'd be no way that the government could take action. It wasn't the same in prohibition where you had this huge amount of income. It was a very different story. And that came for actually, That was the first thing that when women were given the vote, and it's probably the first thing they did was demand prohibition. But, and that was popular at the time. Here, you have a strong monarchy saying, I don't care how much money is being made.

I don't care if it hurts our income. This is hurting us. And when the war started, it ended. It was very difficult to enforce, and I don't think it was. But the intent was certainly there. But what was it at the time, the Jewish participation,

at the time that, let me start that again, but what was at that time the Jewish participation in this sector? In 1886, during the works of the Palin Commission, statistics were published on the subject. According to these figures, Jews held 27%, the decimals do not appear here. The numbers have been rounded up everywhere. Of all distilleries in Eastern Europe, 53% in the Pala settlement, notably 83% in the province of Padoz. in that of Grudna, 72, in that, notably 83% in the province of Hedolsk, 76% in that of Grudna, 72% in that of Kersan. They held 41% of the breweries in European Russia, 71% in the pale of settlement,

94% in the province of Minsk, 91% in the province of Vilnius, 85% in the province of Grudna. The proportion of manufacturing and sales points in Jewish commerce is 20,000,000,000. 29% in European Russia, 61% in the Palos Settlement, 95% in the province of Grodna, 93% in Mogulov, 91% in the province of Minsk. It is understandable that the reform was established, which established a state monopoly on spirits, was greeted with horror by the Jews of the Palos settlement. As it should have been, but we've talked about the inability, especially when it comes to the Jews, of the state, especially in rural areas, to enforce anything.

Russia was too big, and the bureaucracy was too small. People think the Russian bureaucracy was huge and overwhelming. It was tiny when you control for population and the size of the country compared to Britain or France. And that's why taxes were so low in Russia. But wherever Jews existed in any numbers, they dominated this trade. so the destruction and you know

there was a lot of usury done out of taverns actually in America one of the arguments for prohibition initially was that the tavern keepers were were loan sharks

that a lot of cash on hand and it was almost you know certainly what else can you could you use back then so wherever the Jews existed in any numbers they completely dominated that trade and I bet you

these numbers may even be higher because the Russian state never could quite get a handle on how many Jews were in the Russian Empire. And that was because the Jews didn't want to be counted for very obvious reason. So the state monopoly was a blow to them. But whether that actually worked out in practice up until the war is another matter. It is incontestable. The establishment of a state monopoly on Spurred stelt a very severe blow to the economic activity of the Jews. Jews in Russia. And until the First World War, it ended at that time, this monopoly remained the favorite target of general indignation, whereas it merely instituted a rigorous control of the amount of

alcohol produced in the country and its quality. Forgetting that it reached the Christian tenets in the same way, see the statistics above, it is always presented as an anti-Jewish measure. The introduction at the end of the 90s of the sale of alcohol by the state in the pale of settlement has deprived more than 100,000 Jews of their livelihood. Power meant forcing the Jews to leave the rural areas. And since then, this trade has lost for the Jews the importance it once had. Well, the point I was making before was that only a strong monarchy could do this. The Western, you know, republics and democracies could never do it.

Jews simply were too powerful, especially now. But only in a monarchy. can you simply take a whole sector over? And it was a popular measure too. So that's really the point I was trying to make before. There was an attempt to strictly limit it, especially when the war started. Again, how successful, I'm not sure.

But if it wasn't successful or it couldn't be enforced in a rigorous way, Jews were also at the heart of it. It was indeed the moment from the end of the 19th century when Jewish emigration from Russia grew remarkably. Is there a link between the emigration and the establishment of the state monopoly on the sale of spirits? That is difficult to say, but the figure of 100,000 quoted above suggests so. The fact is that Jewish emigration in America remained low until 1886 to 1887. It experienced a brief surge in 1891 to 1892, but it was only after 1897 that it became

massive and continuous. Thanks, Tsar. And it's very important that organized crime which was heavily Jewish really came into its own when Prohibition was passed in the early 20s organized crime was Judaic. I mean the Italians existed

Lucky Luciano was heavily Judaized and the later mafia was you know created by him and he was under Lansky and was financed by him but so on the one hand

a strong state could limit alcohol sales especially in times of emergency on the other hand in America prohibition was a huge benefit and you had millions made by Jewish organized crime figures

which really were mainstream in Jewish society at the time unlike the Italians so it benefited them that way too and that's why I think that once there was an attempt to ban it during the war in Russia it Jews were simply doing what they did in the U.S. after prohibition or during prohibition.

The provisional regulations of 1882 had not prevented further infiltration of Jewish spirits into the countryside. Just as in the 70s, they had found a loophole against the prohibition of selling elsewhere than home by inventing street commerce. It had been devised to circumvent the law of May 3, 1882, which also forbade the commerce of vodka by contract issued with a Jew, leasing on the slide to set up an end there, one rented a land by oral and not written contract in order for the taxes to be covered by the owner, and the proceeds from the sale of drinks went to the Jews. It was through this and other means that the implementation of Jews in the countryside could continue after the categorical prohibition of 1882. As Leersberg writes,

it was from 1889 that began the wave of expulsions of the Jews outside the the villages of the Pala settlement, which resulted in a pitiless competition generating a terrible evil, denunciation. In other words, Jews began to denounce those among them who lived illegally. But here are the figures put forward by P.N. Milikov, if in 1881, there were 580,000 Jews living in villages, there were 711,000 Jews in 1897, which means that the rate of new arrivals and Burts far outweighed those of evictions and deaths. In 1899, a new committee for Jewish affairs, the 11th of the name. Oh my God. Yeah, right. With Baron Luxor von Hildebrand at its head was set up to revise the provisional regulations. This committee wrote Milikov rejected the proposal

to expel from the countryside the Jews who illegally established themselves there and softened the law of 1882. Let's have a new commission. That'll solve the problem. The 11th. While recognizing that the peasantry, which is not very developed, has no entrepreneurial spirit and no means of development must be protected from any contact with the Jews. The committee insisted that the landowners have no need for the tutelage of the government.

The limitation of the right of the owners to manage the property as they see fit, depreciate depreciates said property and compels the proprietors to employ, in concert with the Jews, all sorts of expedients to circumvent the law. The lifting of prohibitions on Jews will enable landowners to derive greater benefit from their assets. But the proprietors no longer had the prestige, which might have given weight to this argument in the eyes of the administration. Yeah, I think what he means by entrepreneurial spirit, I think that's the Jewish spirit. Russian peasantry, especially in the central regions, the north, even some of the southern regions too, they stressed cooperation and community over competition.

And my very first book, The Third Rome, I make the argument that Russia became what it became because in a good chunk of the country, you had a short growing season. you had rough soil not Ukraine of course but elsewhere and therefore cooperation made a lot more sense in bad times which were somewhat common and that's why the nobles had to

have their granaries all of these kind of monasteries did it too have all kinds of reserves that means a person like that or a people like that having to deal with Jews for the first time in a sense yes they should be protected. But that goes for anybody. Anyone who's not used to it should be protected. A country like the U.S. today did not protect the people of Postville from this awful invasion and exploitation, which got a distance. I haven't thought of the Postville case in a long time. I think I'm the, am I the only one who wrote on it? I might be that town is destroyed now. But of course, in a Judaic society, that's perfectly normal and perfectly acceptable.

so but he's right at least the peasantry was involved it was was orthodox was a communal cooperative you know they were a single person the way that they acted unanimity was what they wanted is how they functioned the jews come in and the only thing they could be seen as is is an enemy because they were it was in 1903 through 1904 that the revision of the regulations of 1882 were seriously undertaken. Reports came from the provinces, notably from Zviotapolk Mirsky, who was Governor General and soon to become Liberal Minister of the Interior,

saying that the regulations had not proved their worth, that it was imperative that the Jews should leave towns and villages where their concentration was too high, and that, thanks to the establishment of a state monopoly on beverages, the threat of Jewish exploitation of the rural population was removed. These proposals were approved, by Sapiegan, the minister, who was soon to be shot down by a terrorist, and in 1908, endorsed by Plev, soon assassinated in his turn. A list of 101 villages have been drawn up and published, to which

57 others would soon be added, in which the Jews acquired the right to settle and purchase real estate and to lease it. In the Jewish Encyclopedia dating before the revolution, we read the names of these localities, some of which are already quite important, were soon, to spread. There is a whole list of names here that I'm not going to read. Outside this list and Jewish agricultural settlements, Jews did not get the right to acquire land. However, the regulations were soon abrogated for certain categories, graduates of higher studies, pharmacists, artisans, and former retired soldiers. These people were given the right to reside in the countryside to engage in commerce and various other trades.

This is another form of naifte, where you have this claim that, okay, if we somehow take the ability of Jews to sell alcohol away, they won't exploit anyone anymore. A lot of these libertarians say that, you know, when you legalize drugs, all drugs, that somehow the cartels are going to go away. and I say, you know, it's not true. The mafia didn't go away when Prohibition was overturned. These are extremely wealthy organizations.

They won't go away and they haven't gone away all of the places where it's been legalized. Back then, maybe they have someone of an excuse. I don't know what he means by, maybe it's just in these areas. The rights to land. Well, they were granted land many, many, many times. God knows how many commissions ago. that wasn't that wasn't the question they they were so I don't really know you know and and at this point all these commissions and laws and both at the local level the national level were so complicated that I don't know if they could or not I don't know if they could what they could do or not everything was so contradictory given the fact it was just one commission after another after another after another in the beginning they were all saying the same thing one of the first things that the Dershavin commission said um a hundred years earlier

was that Jews use alcohol to manipulate peasants into signing things that they wouldn't sign otherwise. Now today you could argue that in court. Back then it was very difficult to prove. And then the Jews would go around saying

that, oh, Russians are so ignorant, they're alcoholics. As if they had nothing to do with it. So at this point, the laws and regulations and attitudes at all levels were so concerning the Jews

were so complex and contradictory it's very difficult to tell what they could and couldn't do but that's exactly the kind

of environment where the Jewish mind the Talmudic mind really thrives finding loopholes and this

was perfect for them while the sale of spirits and the various other kinds of farming including that of the land

were the main sources of income for Jews there were others including notably the ownership of land

among the Jews the aspirations to possess the land was expressed by the acquisition of large areas capable of harboring several types of activities rather than by the use of small parcels, which are to be developed by the owner himself. When the land, which gives life to the peasant, reaches a higher price than that of the purely agricultural property, it was not uncommon for a Jewish entrepreneur to acquire it. Let me make something clear. That first line, the sale of spirits and the various kinds of farming

that of the land were the main sources of income for the Jews it's not true they refused to farm even when they were given land I don't know what it means when they say various kinds of farming including that of the land I don't know where else you would farm unless they're talking about tax farming they mean it metaphorically but farming was not a main source of income unless they're talking about Jews acquiring land and bringing in the goyum to work it for them while they work in the tavern

in the bar. Maybe that's what they mean, but Jews did not farm in old Russia. As we have seen, the direct leasing and purchasing of the land by the Jews was not prohibited until 1881, and the purchasers were not deprived of their rights by the new prohibitions. This is how, for example, Trotsky's father, David Bronstein, possessed in the province of Kersan, not far from Elizabeth God, and held in his possession until the revolution an important business, an economy as it was called in the south. He also owned later on the Nadejda mine in the suburb of Krivoy Rogue. On the basis of what he had observed in the exploitation of his father, and as he heard it, in all farms it is the same, Trotsky relates

that the seasonal workers who had come by foot from the central province, to be hired were very malnourished. Never, never meat nor bacon, oil but very little, vegetables and oatmeal, that's all. And this, during the hard summer work from dawn to twilight, and even one summer an epidemic of hameralopia was declared among the workers. For my part, I will argue that in an economy of the same type in Kuban, with my grandfather Schwerbach, himself a member of a family of agricultural workers the day workers were served during the harvest meat three times a day i'm going to dismiss everything that trotky said there i'm not sure how the owner of a mine is exploited and trotky if he's if he's saying that this is a bad thing

the seasonal workers well he helped create a system that was 50 times worse with workers like that now i've never read um i mean there's a there's a um i mean i know i know he must have written somewhere. There's a footnote for it. But I think Trotsky is really full of it as far as how teary-eyed he must have been over it. But a new prohibition fell in 1903. A provision of the Council of Ministers deprived all Jews of the right to acquire immovable property throughout the empire outside urban areas, that is to say, in rural areas. This limited to a certain extent the industrial activity of the Jews, but, as the Jewish Encyclopedia points out, by no means their agricultural activity. In any case, to use the right to acquire land, the Jews would

undoubtedly have delegated fewer cultivators than landlords and tenants. It seems doubtful whether a population as urban as the Jewish population was able to supply a large number of farmers. In the early years of the 20th century, the picture was as follows. About two million in hectares, which are now owned or leased by Jews in the Empire and Kingdom of Poland, only 113,000 are home to Jewish agricultural settlements. Although the provisional regulations of 1882 prohibited the Jews from buying or leasing out of towns and villages, devious means were also found there, notably for the acquisition of land intended for the sugar industry. In other words it doesn't make any any difference um whether they were forbidden or not mean they were granted

huge tracks of land exploited everyone around them stole all of the the subsidies produced nothing um owning land was just simply another another matter of exploitation they got around it anyway and it wasn't even in the whole empire yeah jews dominated the sugar industry which was mostly centered in Ukraine, Beats, sugar beets. At the time, Jews were not farming. Any income that they received

from the ownership of land was from some sort of exploitation or speculation. They owned it. If the area developed, they could sell it for a profit. But you've noticed something. In the reigns of Alexander, the third, and Nicholas II, which is the era that we're talking about

now, if these are two men who fully understood the Jewish issue, absolutely understood the Jewish issue, but realized that they could take action, but they had to watch what they do, not just because of the British, not just because of the French, that's just because of Jewish power, not just because of what they can do, but also their enforcement mechanisms. Jews, Jewish leftists were murdering people right and left, especially after Alexander of the third's death. Under the reign of Nicholas II, they murdered thousands of people.

Sometimes there's ordinary people, low-level bureaucrats, policemen, whatever they can do. They were a terrorist group. Stalin got his start in the bank robberies in the southern part of the empire. The Bolsheviks, the left, the Jewish movement showed what it thought of the country, what it thought of the people around them by murder. exploitation, theft, they functioned like an organized crime syndicate. I've said that before, and I'll continue to say it, because in a real way, that's what they were. Thus, the Jews who possessed large areas of land were opposed to the agrarian reform of Stylopen,

which granted land to the peasants on a personal basis. They were not the only ones. One is astonished at the hostility with which this reform was received by the press of those years, and not only by that of the extreme right, but by the perfectly liberal press, not to mention the revolutionary press. The Jewish Encyclopedia argues the agrarian reforms that plan to seed land

exclusively to those who cultivated it would have harmed the interests of a part of the Jewish population, that which worked in the large farms of Jewish owners. It was not until the revolution passed that a Jewish author took a look back and already boiling with proletarian indignation wrote, the Jewish landowners possessed under the Tsarist regime more than 2 million hectares of land, mainly around Ukrainian sugar factories as well as large estates in Crimea and Belarus,

and moreover, they owned more than 2 million hectares of the best land, Black Earth. Thus, Baron Ginsburg possessed in the district of Jenskoy 87,000 hectares. The industrialist Brodsky owned tens of thousands of hectares for his sugar mills, and others own similar estates so that in the so that in total the Jewish capitalists combined 872,000 hectares of arable land. By the time World War I broke out, and I've proven this, I've written on this until I can't write anymore, peasantry overwhelmingly owned something like between 92 and 95% of the land of Russia, depending on who you read. That's the number. They owned it

either within the commune or personally. This is why when the Bolsheviks took over in certain areas, the peasantry and the Cossacks were their worst enemies. This is why the peasantry had to be liquidated in various places. But you had a limited market. The Stilippan reform that allowed peasants to own land on a personal basis. everything that I've seen says the maximum that took advantage of that is like

7 to 10 percent and that I think is very high most peasants were very satisfied and very secure in their communal arrangements because that was an entire institution that was the institution that made rules and laws for the majority of the population so and that was something

that the Jews didn't like any land that the Jews, own was worked by someone else. They were absentee landowners. It wasn't worked by Jews unless were being punished for something. They didn't know how to farm. We've been through that in the past, but Russell was unique, maybe even unique in world history of having a peasant class that were owners. The competition that they had were people like Baron Ginsburg. After the landownership came the trade of wheat and cereal products. Let us remember that the export of grain was chiefly carried out by Jews. Of the total Jewish population of the USSR,

not less than 18% before the revolution, more than a million people, were engaged in the trade of wheat, bosses and members of their families alike, which caused a real animosity of the peasants towards the Jewish population, because the big buyers did everything to lower the price of the wheat in order to resell it for more profit. In the western provinces and in Ukraine, the Jews bought in bulk other agricultural commodities. Moreover, how can we not point out that in places like there's five Russian city names that I'm not going to pronounce, the old believers, workers, and industrious never let trade go by other hands.

Beekerman believes that the prohibition of Jewish merchants to operate throughout the territory of Russia fostered apathy, immobility, domination by the Kulaks. However, if Russia's trade in wheat had... become an integral part of world trade, Russia owes it to the Jews. As we have already seen, as early as 1878, 60% of wheat exports from the Port of Odessa were by Jews. They were the first to develop the wheat trade of Nikolaev, Kurson, Rostofan, Dhan, as well as in the provinces of Oril, Kursk, and Shernagov. They were well represented in the wheat trade in St. Petersburg, and in the northwest region, out of 1,000 traders of cereal products, there were 9,000.

I should mention that in communal ownership of land, you know, communes could be anywhere between 20 and a hundred families, depending on the region. They certainly owned the land, but they did it communally. That's very much a part of the Russian mind. That was not exploitation. They were very secure. No one could just come in and buy. No one could take it from them. this was something that irritated the capitalist they would redistribute once in a while

land as people came and went as people died someone was killed in a war he had to take care of the family it was a very just very humane institution that's why there were very few that took advantage of the single ownership because they were going up against these people he does mention old believers and i don't know if i've mentioned this or not but the old believers because of their pariah status in much of the empire. It was a little different now. That was changing by now. They created a very strong merchant class,

but it's one of the few merchant classes that was not exploitative. All of their profits went back to the community. They were completely shocked by Jewish behavior. They were good. They knew their interests. They knew how to negotiate. They were competition. but personal profit was absolutely out of the question.

It was a very strict, very communal and cooperative movement. There's a lot to be said for old believer merchants. I have a book out on the old believers. I've always been very sympathetic to them because they're Orthodox in every way. So if Jewish merchants had competition, it was from the old believers. That existed in large numbers, mostly in the outskirts of the empire. Empire, various parts of Siberia, the northern parts, and near the Caucasus Mountains, near the Black Sea. And many of them went to Turkey as well. By now, there wasn't really any persecution

against them, but they had created an identity. But by the beginning of the 19th century, I was thinking about this the other day, I'd say a third of the Russian peasantry were old believers, of one form or another. However, most of our sources do not shed light on how these Jewish merchants behaved with their trading partners. In fact, they were often very hard in practice procedure that today would be considered, we would consider illicit. They could, for example, agree among themselves and refuse to buy the crop in order to bring down prices. It is understandable that in the 90s farmers cooperatives under the leadership of Count Hayden and Bechtdeyev were set up in the southern provinces for the first time in Russia and a step

ahead of Europe. Their mission was to thwart these massive monopolistic purchases of present wheat. Let us recall another form of commerce in the hands of the Jews. The export of wood came second after the wheat. From 1813 to 1913, these exports were multiplied by 140. And the communist laranists fulminated. The Jewish proprietors possessed large forested areas, and they leased a part of it, even in the provinces where the Jews were not normally allowed to reside. The Jewish Encyclopedia confirms it. The Jews acquired the land, especially in the central provinces, chiefly to exploit the forest wealth. However, as they did have the right to install sawmills in some places, the wood left abroad in the raw state for a dead loss

for the country. There existed out other prohibitions, access for export of timber in the ports of Riga, Ravel, Petersburg, the installation of warehouses along the railways. The Jews also, as we've said a hundred times, were completely obsessed with cohesion. Once they got powerful and owned tremendous amounts of resources, they were able to gather together, like any monopoly, and set prices, manipulate the market. They were the mirror image of the old believers. Oh, believers were a positive kind of cohesiveness. The Jews were a negative kind of cohesiveness.

I mean, it was a sin to exploit your neighbors. For the Jews, it was demanded that you exploit your neighbors. Again, this is something that comes up over and over again in the complaints against them, is that they support one another solely to pool their resources to exploit and even gain more wealth at the expense of everybody else. and this is something that it says he were talking about bringing down prices, setting prices. They acted like an oligarchy would or even a monopolist would. And my former anarcho-capitals libertarian self would be like, oh, we just need a free market.

In a free market, everyone can compete. I mean, this is ridiculous, that people think that a free market can actually exist. Can you imagine these people without government restrictions? Yeah, they would be slaves. They'd be slaves to the most powerful drug dealer in the neighborhood. I mean, well, not only. People form group. It's not only that.

They'll make the argument that monopoly only exists because government exists. Outside of a government and regulations, monopoly can't exist. That's all that would exist. Yeah. Yeah. It begs the question. How was it that the state was able to do this or had the drive to do this? They had to be powerful already and simply privatize the state. If they're going to be concerned with egotism and self-interest, well, when a conglomerate buys off the state, uses the state for its own purposes, well, on what basis are they complaining? The state just ends up being their bodyguard. It's very naive. That libertarianism is based on the naive proposition that the state and the private sector are sealed off from each other, that they're two very different things. In 2025, they're not. That's why I use the term regime with the capital R, because the traditional language to describe various sectors and interests,

that it doesn't work anymore. It's a unified power structure where the lines have been blurred between private and public and all the combinations. Yeah, the state is controlled by these people. That's also in their interest. So they're right, in a sense, but what they don't understand, it was only in places that had a strong monarchy or a strong state, say, military government, that these were broken up.

And because the state was stronger than these oligards. In the West, of course, state is the oligarchy. The state is dependent on them for, you know, servicing their debt. You know, the state is in debt to these people. So who's, who's the strongest actor? It's a very naive understanding. A lot of conservatives, the Republican types, believe in this nonsense without really

understanding how political economy is today. Such is the picture. Everything is there. and the tireless dynamism of Jewish commerce, which drives entire states, and the prohibitions of a timorous, sclerotic bureaucracy that only hinders progress, and the ever-increasing irritation these prohibitions provoke among the Jews, and the sale of the Russian forest exported abroad in its raw state as a raw material, and the small farmer, the small operator, who, caught in a merciless vice, has neither the relationships nor the skills to invent

other forms of trade. And let us not forget the Ministry of Finance, which pours its subsidies on industry and railways and abandons agriculture, whereas the tax burden is carried by the class of the farmers, not the merchants. One wonders under the conditions of this new economic, of the new economic dynamics that come to replenish the treasury and was largely due to the Jews, was there anyone to worry about the harm done to the common people? The shock suffered by it from the break in its way of life in its very being. You know, there's a reason that liberal parties in Russia over the last 30 years, 25 years, get at most, despite all the subsidies they get from Washington and the media that they control, they can't get any more than 5 to 7% of the vote. And that's because of the 1990s.

The 1990s should cure libertarians of their delusions. I mean, the typical ordinary libertarian because the state did collapse. The state did get out of the way. And what happened? Essentially organized crime groups became the state. They created organizations that dominated huge sectors of the economy just to liquidate it. That's why Putin was so popular.

He took over and his agenda was to arrest these people, to break them, It was only in the resuscitation of the state, which he had done most by 2002, 2003, when I was alone in praising him, that the oligarchy was broken. It took a while, and there's still some of it left, but he broke it. That didn't happen in Ukraine. It happened in Belarus, and it happened in Russia. It was only the state that was able to save the country. The Soviet Union collapsed suddenly. that means the people who are already the strongest already had the connections and the power

were able to monopolize huge parts of industry and everything else and that was of course the overwhelmingly Jewish oligarchs that's what happens when the state gets out of the way here you have an example of a rapid collapse of the state a very strong state and that's what you got so I don't know what these people are talking about I think that Putin understands that the greatest enemy of Russia is liberalism. It will, liberalism will destroy Russia. And that's why, even though it only gets five to seven percent, every once in a while there may be a liberal that,

a liberal voice that rises up that has to be silenced. And I don't, I don't apologize for that. Because liberalism is the death of a potless. there's no question yeah i've been saying that for a long time for half a century russia has been accused from the inside as well as from the outside of having enslaved the jews economically and having forced them to misery it was necessary that the years passed that this abominable russia disappear from the surface of the earth it will be necessary to cross the revolutionary turmoil for a jewish author of the thirties to look at the past over the bloody wall of a revolution

and acknowledge, quote, the Tsarist government has not pursued a policy of total eviction of the Jews from economic life, apart from the well-known limitations. In the countryside, on the whole, the Tsarist government tolerated the economic activity of the Jews. The tensions of the national struggle, the Jews did not feel them in their economic activity. The dominant nation did not want to take the side of a particular ethnic group. It was only trying to play their role of arbiter or mediator. Besides, it happened that the government was intruding into the economy on national grounds. It then took measures which, more often than not, were doomed to failure. Thus, in 1890, a bulletin was diffused under which the Jews lost the right to be

directors of corporations that intended to purchase or lease lands. But it was the childhood of the art of circumventing this law, remaining anonymous. This kind of prohibition in no way impeded the actual. activity of Jewish entrepreneurs. Quote, the role of the Jews was especially important in foreign trade where their hedge money was assured and their geographical location near borders and their contracts abroad and by their commercial intermediary skills. As regards to the sugar industry, more than a third of the factories were Jewish at the end of the century.

We have seen in previous chapters how the industry had developed under the leadership of Israel Brodsky and his son, Lizar, and Leon. At the beginning of the 20th century, they controlled directly or indirectly 17 sugar mills. Goparin Moses, in the early 20th century, had eight factories and three refineries. He also owned 50,000 hectares of sugar beet cropland.

Hundreds of thousands of Jewish families lived off the sugar industry, acting as intermediaries, sellers, and so on. When competition appeared and the price of sugar began to fall, the syndicate of sugar producers in Kiev called for a control of production and sale in order for prices not to fall. The Brodsky brothers were the founders of the Refiners Union in 1903.

I think this is a, it's an actual place to stop, sort of, because we're talking about a different industry in the next paragraph. But this Jewish rule over these areas had nothing to do with the state whatsoever. it occurred despite the state. So again, more errors from the libertarian or really the individualist individualist mentality despite these people, and only despite

these people. Russia at this period of time, Alexander III, Nicholas II, was growing very rapidly. And the only reason you didn't have inflation was because the state maintained control over the gold and hence the currency which was something that drove the Rothschild's crazy the state was always more powerful

than even these Jews and these economic actors all put together when Bolsheviks took over essentially just meant that all the wealth of the empire went to this very tiny group that's what the revolution was for war communism

and then eventually central planning. Well, if you have central planning, you then have to own everything. The party owned every productive little bit of the Soviet Union. The party early on was heavily Judaic, usually coming from wealthy families, and Stalin, as we'll talk about in this book,

didn't change anything. It was the exact same thing. It's one of the reasons that they had to pass the anti-Semitism law, which was enforced right up until the 80s, 1980s. But despite all of this, peasant production, this was all going through the roof at the time.

Industrialization, sometimes foreign, but often Russian, was going through the roof at the time. These monopolists, yeah, they were a part of it, but they were just a part of it. Russia was feeding the world at the time. The Soviets could never do that. The Soviets couldn't feed themselves at any point. the massive overproduction of wheat

and grain and oats barley in old Russia was extraordinary so that's all in my book on the Soviet experiment the Barnes Review published that one of the theses is that that's all the revolution was a tiny click mostly Jews

that then through central planning took over the entire country. It was a totalitarian system. You can't have central planning and not be a totalitarian system, meaning that all aspects of life were under party control. And so it had nothing to do with labor, had nothing to do with the peasants. Labor was exploited beyond belief, beyond anything that we could even understand. Certainly everything that that capitalists were ever capable of. But anytime one of these people says, oh, that wasn't real socialism, then say, oh, well, America isn't really real capitalism. Anyone can say that.

It's stupid. They have to take responsibility. But that's the system that the left advocates and keep in mind throughout the Western world. And during the Stalinist era, really up until the late 60s, intellectual after intellectual, all the thousands of intellectuals in the West were saying this was the wave of the future. That's why the U.S. was heavily invested in the U.S.S.S.R. built their economy, knowing full well what was going on. New York Times was covering over for Stalin's crimes because it was also run by Jews. Stalin wasn't. But he was surrounded by them.

That's all that revolution was. It had nothing to do with labor. We talked about why they picked the proletariat and what was different about it. The peasants, they couldn't do that with, though they were liquidated. massive numbers, and not just in Russia, but Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and it was Karl Marx himself that said the enemy of Marxism, of revolution, is Russia and Russians. I have a lot of papers on this. The condemnation, Karl Marx and his followers, that Russians are savages and have to be destroyed, have to be liquidated. That comes straight from the middle of

of the 19th century, not just from the Bolsheviks. It was always this Marxist, revolutionary, and Judaic mind that said the ultimate goyam that have to be destroyed are Russians and Eastern Slavs in general. That's what the revolution was. I don't think I'm ever going to be able to get over people arguing that their behavior of exploitation of, oh, they're just smarter than those people. so they have a right to rule over them. It's not that they're smarter.

They're just more devious. They don't care about the idea of a people, except their own. And even in those cases, they abused their own in the Stettel. Sure. Well, Willis Carter always used to say, Willis Carter always used to say that if somehow we would, all disappear and there are only jews left in the world they'd slaughter each other within a month yeah i i've always wondered and had my opinions about why they kept the people in gaza and the

people in the west bank because they need an enemy they need an enemy nearby right very neurotic people That's there, so much of their identity is negative. It's, we are superior to them. We are the aristocrats of the world. The Hasidics always called us mud. In other words, they're not, there's no soul. That's common in, in Judaism and Kabbal as well as the Talmud, that, that we don't have a soul. We're simply here for labor, and it should be in limited numbers.

And that was put into practice in the USSR. Yeah, there's many forms of. socialism that actually worked. They weren't materialists. They weren't based on all that nonsense. But that's not the socialism that Karl Marx and Lennon and everyone else at that time was talking about. Pierre Joseph Prudhon had a very different attitude towards this. The family was at the center room. Karl Marx was able to completely silence all these other forms of socialism that were very

Christian in their orientation. Russia, the Brotherhood of the Holy Cross, I have several lectures on them. If you want to talk about socialism, there's Christian an idealistic version that was very successful because it wasn't opposed to private property. So, and when the communists would run, kind of run for elections after 1905, they absolutely, and when to Lenin and his people would make public statements, he would lie through his teeth about what he wanted, giving land to the peasants. Well, you don't believe in private ownership of land. So what are you talking about giving land to the peasants for. Food was their

weapon. That's why they could end up controlling all the land during the revolution because they decided who got fed and who didn't. And Trotsky would admit this in exile, but he was the architect of it. That's what the revolution was. There are many other forms

of socialism. But when we use the word socialist today, people immediately think Marxism, Leninism. Those are evil, Judaic ideologies and mentality. If you read early Marxist, early poetry, you see the demonism there.

And you notice that so many of these people come from the upper classes. They're not poor. Marxism for them, or Leninism, I should say, was the way that Jews finally could take over because they are the superior people. It's not uncommon, especially in the Ivy League that they say, well, we're just,

their IQ isn't higher than than white people or, or Asians, but on average. But they're cohesive. They support one another because they have this eternal enemy. And that's what Judaism really is in terms of the day-to-day functionality. All right. We'll be back in a few days for episode 31. As always, please go to the show notes.

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