The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Episodes 51-60

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to welcome everyone back to part 51 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzheneson. I'm going to ask you this, Dr. Johnson. I already know the answer. How are you doing today? Well, I'm under the weather. I'm definitely sick. I rarely get sick. So when it happens, I have no idea what to do.
Starting point is 00:00:24 But I wasn't going to, I was thinking of canceling. I said, nah, I don't do stuff like that. Um, so, um, I have no, you know, it's just your typical virus, I guess. I don't, I don't know. And, um, but I'm getting stuff done. And, um, we have to, we have to get through this. We're at 51 now. We have to get through this. We can't be taken any time off. No. No. Let's, uh, let's, uh, let's start right now because we're going to get into a little, uh, talking a little bit about czarism here. So, uh, picking up where we left off at the. end of episode 50. Moreover, Russian society would have ceased to be itself if it had not brought
Starting point is 00:01:06 everything to a single burning question. Tsarism. Still czarism. Always czarism. But the consequence was this. After the days of October, the pogroms in 1905, concrete aid to the Jewish victims was brought only by the Jews of Russia and other countries. And Berdyev added, are you capable of feeling the soul of the Jewish people? No, you are fighting in favor of an abstract humanity. You know, I've written on Berdyev for many years. He is one of the great existentialist philosophers. I don't really know what he's talking about here. There needs to be a little bit more context to what he's writing. His phylo-Semitism went back and forth like a lot of these guys did. So, and of course,
Starting point is 00:01:57 half the revolution that changed a little bit, but, yeah. This is confirmed by Sliusberg. In politically evolved circles, the Jewish question was not politically in the broad sense of the, was not political in the broad sense of the term. Society was attentive to manifestations of the reaction in all its forms. In order to correct this misjudgment of Russian society, a collection of articles entitled Schitt, shit, looks like shit to me, the shield was published in 1915. It took on globally and exclusively the defense of the Jews, but without the participation of the latter as writers. These were either Russian or Ukrainian, and a beautiful skewer of celebrities of the time
Starting point is 00:02:46 was assembled there, nearly 40 names. The whole collection was based on a single theme, Jews in Russia. It is univocal and its conclusions and its formulations denote in some places a certain spirit of sacrifice. A few samples. El Andreev Quote, The prospect of an approaching solution to the Jewish problem brings about a feeling of joy close to fervor, the feeling of being freed from a pain that has accompanied me all my life,
Starting point is 00:03:17 which was like a hump on the back. I breathe poisonous air. M. Gorky. The great European thinkers, consider that the psychic structure of the Jew is culturally higher, more beautiful than that of the Russian. He's the Bolshevik, of course. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He then rejoiced at the development in Russia of the sects of the sabbatists and that of the new Israel, P. Malianzavich. The arbitrariness to which the Jews are subjected is reproach, which, like a stain, covers the name of the Russian people. The best among the Russians feel it as a shame that pursues you all your life. We are barbarians among the civilized peoples of humanity. We are deprived of the precious right to be proud of our people. The struggle for the equal rights of the Jews represents for the Russian man,
Starting point is 00:04:11 a national cause of prime importance. The arbitrariness subjected to the Jews condemns the Russian to failure in their attempts to attain their own happiness. If we do not worry about the liberation of the Jews, quote, we will never be able to solve our own problems, end quote. So in that section, he's saying that our pride as Russians is based on the Jews, and whether they are treated well or not. But of course, they're never treated well in Goy society. So it's very bizarre what these people, I mean, Gorky, you expect that crap out of him? But anyway, the rest are, you know, everything seems to be based on, you know, Russians aren't civilized because the Jews don't rule it. It's really what I'm taking from some of this.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Quote, if we remove everything that hinders the Jews, we will see an increase in the intellectual forces of Russia, a Kamukova. Quote, on the other hand, our close spiritual relationship with the Jewish world and the domain of the highest spiritual values, on the other, the Jews may be the object of contempt of hatred, L. Andreev. It is we, the Russians, who are the Jews of Europe, are border. It is precisely the pale of settlement. D. Mershkovsky. What do the Jews expect of us? Our moral indignation?
Starting point is 00:05:41 But this indignation is so strong and so simple that we only have to scream with the Jews. This is what we do. By the effect of I am not By the effect of I am not sure which misunderstanding Berdyev is not one of the authors of the shield But he said of himself that he had broken with his milieu From his earliest youth and that he preferred to frequent the Jews No whatever that means
Starting point is 00:06:06 All of the authors of the shield define anti-Semitism As an ignoble feeling as quote A disease of consciousness obstinate and contagious. That's by Kulikovsky Hanakim addition. But at the same time, several others note that the methods and process of anti-Semites are of foreign origin.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Milikov said that. Quote, the latest cry of anti-Semitic ideology is a product of the German industry of the spirit. The Aryan theory has been taken up by our nationalist pressed, Menshikov. The ideas of Gobino, Kokachin, the doctrine of the superiority of the Aryans in relation to the Semites is of a German manufacturer, C. Ivanov.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's interesting. I guess, you know, there was always, you know, Komiakov in the 1860s, or even before then, had the Kushite versus Iranian division of peoples of the world. and Iranian is really just Aryan That was much before then I don't know if this is just to deflect criticism It's not our fault, this is the Germans' fault But you notice, of course, none of these people are going to say
Starting point is 00:07:28 What did the Jews do to earn this? It's a feeling, it's like a disease. Disease is something that you catch. You know, it has nothing to do with anyone's behavior It's just something that you have to just get rid of and not think about it's this is absolutely absurd they're doing everything in their power and these are mostly jews by the way they're doing everything in their power to avoid you know the question what do the jews do what what how they provoke this kind of thing what sort of people
Starting point is 00:08:05 are these no nothing has changed today of course but when you start connecting it um or using the disease metaphor. And really, that means it has no connection to behavior at all. It's just random. It's funny, though, there was no hatred of the Arabs in Russia. There was no hatred of Armenians. You know, there are Christians, but heretical Christians, certainly. You know, no other group, not even the Germans who did very well.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Only the Jews were treated this way. But for us, with our hump on our backs, what is the, change. Invited by the Progressive Circle at the end of 1916, Gorky devoted the two hours of his lecture to rolling the Russian people in the mud and raising the Jews to the skies, as noted by the Progressive Deputy Mansreif, one of the founders of the Circle. A contemporary Jewish writer analyzes this phenomenon objectively and lucidly, quote, we assisted to a profound transformation of the minds of the cultivated Russians, who, unfortunately took to heart the Jewish problem much more greatly than might have been expected.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Compassion for the Jews was transformed into an imperative, almost as categorical as the formula, God, the Tsar, the fatherland. As for the Jews, quote, they took advantage of this profession of faith according to their degree of cynicism, end quote. At the same time, Rosanov spoke of, quote, the avid desire of the Jews to seize everything. So at least you have some some reference to their behavior but I don't know what this Jewish writer is but he is telling the truth here
Starting point is 00:09:53 God's Zara Fatherland has been replaced in the minds of Russian intellectuals with how are the Jews being treated powerless people can't make that happen extremely powerful people make that happen
Starting point is 00:10:09 all of this shows the immense power that the Jews had over Russian society, which I think is not even a tenth of what it has over American society or British society at the time. Then before trying to pass it off to the Germans, you know, but this is, so Rosanna finally, he notes that this, you know, avid desire the Jews to seize everything. okay, you know, so at least there's some common sense here.
Starting point is 00:10:48 In the 20s, V. Shulgin summed it up as follows, quote, at that time, a quarter of a century before the revolution, the Jews had taken control of the political life of the country, the brain of the nation, if we accept the government and the circles close to it, found itself in the hands of the Jews and was accustomed to think according to their directives. despite all the restrictions on their rights, the Jews had taken possession of the soul of the Russian people. But was it the Jews who had seized the Russian soul, or did the Russian simply not know what to do with it? Still in the shield, Marezhnovsky tried to explain that phylo-Semitism had arisen in reaction to anti-Semitism,
Starting point is 00:11:35 that the blind valorization of a foreign nationality was asserted that the absolutization of the no led to that of the yes. And Professor Baudouin de Courtney acknowledged that many, even among the political friends of the Jews, experienced repulsion and acknowledged it in private. Here, of course, there is nothing to do. Sympathy and antipathy are not commanded. We must nevertheless rely, not on effects, but on reason. Well, he certainly is telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You know, but reason was the one thing that was not involved in any of this. Now, Solzhenitsyn was very sympathetic to the old believers, like I am. I have a book out on the topic. And that was the wicism in Russian society, the two different kinds of royalists. You muscovite type and your St. Petersburg type. I think that's what he means when he says they don't know what to do with it or what it was. This massive, you know, what happened in the 18th century in Russia, it was unparalleled. You had forced westernization.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You had, you know, these female rulers. But, of course, it was foreign Masonic men, you know, the, like Lord Byron, who actually ran the country from behind. the scenes who hated Russian, who hated Orthodoxy. Catherine II, who didn't really speak Russian. And, you know, it was a bad faith
Starting point is 00:13:19 conversion. The only good section of the 18th century was Elizabeth. But otherwise, there's not a legitimate monarch in that in that whole thing. The Petrine Revolution was just that. And that builds on the schism that occurred under Zara Alexis.
Starting point is 00:13:37 in the previous generation because that's you know they were that's the right it's the simplest way I could put it as I've already put it the St. Petersburg type and then the Muscovite type Muscovite type is very medievalist I tend to find myself in that in that camp most of the time the Slavophiles well the Slavophiles didn't like the old believers either which is odd
Starting point is 00:14:01 because that would be very much an old believer matter and the St. Petersburg type, which included Nicholas I, who was a great man, that was more your civic type. I'm not saying that they didn't have an ethnic component. They did. They didn't make the extreme distinction that we make today. But I think maybe, I think what it comes down to is he doesn't realize what Russia was at its best
Starting point is 00:14:35 there was no agreement on it that's because of czar Alexis that's because of czar Peter forced westernization and now here we see oh the blind valorization of a foreign nationality
Starting point is 00:14:50 was asserted well if you can do that with the Western world a hundred years earlier or more a little bit more then you can do it with the Jews now
Starting point is 00:15:03 you know, Russia had been through hell. People don't realize the revolutionary changes that took place in Russia in the 18th century. I got so much stuff out on it and how the monarchy had been reduced to almost nothing. Even though you had plenty of, you know, the overwhelming majority of the population were monarchists. By the time of Zarniklaus II, that had changed. You know, Alexander and Nicholas had brought it back to which previous. level. The old believers were equalized with the Orthodox Church even before 1905.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But that's maybe I'm being too rational about it. What I just said before, you know, the brain of the nation. So you had the Russian state, you had Russian patriots, then you had the Jews. That was it. Now, I think maybe Shulgin's comment, he said in the 20s. he means the 1920s I think but yes I believe he believe I believe he means the 1920s if he means the 1920s then then yeah that that that's true but there was no Russian nation Russia was subsumed and terrorized under the Soviet Union Lenin hated Russians Stalin
Starting point is 00:16:23 hated Russians and they were exploited mercilessly for the benefit of everybody else that's a whole separate set of issues. Nationalism was selectively accepted if it was like the Ukrainian or Baltic or Georgian or something like that. The only one that was never allowed, the only one that never had its own party really or its own press was Russia.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's kind of like England in the UK. So I have a lecture in a paper out on the the Leningraders, the purges of the pro-Russian party after World War II. These were the people who, you know, defended Leningrad from the German invasion. They were Russian nationalists, and Stalin could not have that. He got rid of all of them. It's a little-known purge that he did right afterwards and got rid of some of his best people.
Starting point is 00:17:23 so Russia was tormented and split many times starting from Peter the Great all the way to all the way to well maybe you know all the way to the end of of World War II so I'm still I'm focused on Sultan Easton comment maybe the Russians didn't know what to do with it but I still say by this period of time the reign of Nicholas II had brought it all together and had he survived and had he had, you know, successors, Russian history would have been extremely different in ways we couldn't even imagine, which is precisely why the Bolshevik Revolution had to happen when it did. Plus, World War I created such brutal disruption and chaos. They bring order out of chaos. And so that's, you know, and don't forget, that masonry, which is a very Judaic in many ways, penetrated some of the great noble families
Starting point is 00:18:29 at the time all the way up to the revolution. The confusion that reigned in the minds of those days was brought to light with greater significance and reached by P.B. Strufe, who devoted his entire life to breaking down the obstacles erected on the path that would lead him from Marxism to the rule of law, and along the way, also obstacles of other kinds. The occasion was a polemic, fallen into a deep oblivion but of great historical importance, which broke out in the liberal Slovo newspaper in March 1909 and immediately won the entirety of the Russian press. Everything had begun with a Shurikov affair, an episode whose importance was inflated to the extreme,
Starting point is 00:19:11 an explosion of rage in a small literary circle accusing Shurikov, author of a play entitled The Jews, and well-disposed toward them to be anti-Semitic. And this was because at a dinner of writers, he had let himself go on to say that most of the literary critics of St. Petersburg were Jews, but were they able to understand the reality of Russian life? This affair shook many things in Russian society. The journalist Leobisch Bosch wrote about it.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It is the two Kopeck candle that set fire to Moscow. Well, you know, that, that irrefisbosch, that irrationality, that kind of hysteria, that happens today, of course. I, unfortunately, have not read this play. I probably should. But he claims to be phylo-Semitic. But it doesn't matter anyway, because he says everything could be interpreted through their lens. And since they are not really Russians, they don't really speak Russian most of the time.
Starting point is 00:20:12 How can they possibly understand the reality of Russian life? and this is what and you know we've already read just a few paragraphs above that that in private some of these liberals they're dealing with the Jews were negative they just couldn't say it they couldn't maintain their positions and say it of course in the Soviet Union you could get your head chopped off for that for any anti-Semitism but London passed that and that was a constant cases in that area
Starting point is 00:20:47 but even the political friends of the Jews experienced repulsion and acknowledged it in private not in public this guy said something he wasn't supposed to say that they control the literary criticism
Starting point is 00:21:01 of St. Petersburg maybe not Moscow Moscow tended to be very Russian but in St. Petersburg and Kiev maybe and so it really doesn't matter what you're right everything is going to be interpreted through their eyes, and they're not Russians.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Considering that he had not sufficiently expressed himself on the Sharkov affair in a first article, Jabotinsky published a text entitled Asemitism in the Slovo newspaper on March 9, 1909. He stated it in his fears and his indignation at the fact that the majority of the progressive press wanted to silence this matter, that even a great liberal newspaper he was referring to the Russian news, had not published a word for 25 years on the atrocious persecution suffered by the Jewish people, since then the law of silence had been regarded as the latest trend by progressive phylo-Semites. It was precisely here that evil resided in passing over the Jewish question. We can only agree with this.
Starting point is 00:22:01 When Sherikov and Arabegin assure us that there is nothing anti-Semitic in their remarks, they are both perfectly right. Because of this tradition of silence, one can be accused. of anti-Semitism for having only pronounced the word Jew or made the most innocent remark about some particularity of the Jews. The problem is that the Jews have become a veritable taboo that forbids the most trivial criticism and that it is to them that are the big losers in the affair. Here again, we can only agree. There is a feeling that the word Jew itself has become an indecent term. There is here an echo of a general state of mind that makes its way
Starting point is 00:22:40 among the middle strata of the progressive Russian intelligentsia. We cannot yet provide tangible proofs of it. We can only have a presentiment about this state of mind. But it is precisely that this that torments him. No proofs, just an intuition. And the Jews will not see the storm coming. They will be caught unprepared. For the moment, we see only a small cloud forming in the sky
Starting point is 00:23:05 and we can hear a distant but already menacing role. It is not anti-Semitism. It is only asymmetism. But that also is not admissible. Neutrality cannot be justified. After the pogrom of Kishenev, and while the reactionary press pedals, the inflamed toe of hatred, the silence of the progressive newspapers about one of the most tragic questions of Russian life is unacceptable. I think what he means, I remember this the first time I went through it,
Starting point is 00:23:35 that many liberal papers because Jews were so powerful they didn't know what to say about things they weren't Jews themselves necessarily maybe they'll say the wrong thing or they won't be sensitive enough to certain things the word Jew versus Jewish people
Starting point is 00:23:54 was a big one it actually came up several times before and that there's this fear that you're not going to be able to get a job and any literary criticism or anything if you irritate um if you irritate the jews and um i think that's what's that's what's uh that's a problem here now jews will not see the storm coming well that's interesting they didn't see el kimonyetski coming they thought the the
Starting point is 00:24:27 messiah was coming they never learn they never learn from their from their history I think in his mind is something purely negative, but at least he's giving a somewhat rational explanation for it. And that is the fear of the Jewish friends of saying the wrong thing because the entire Jewish mentality there and now is based on finding offense in things and throwing people always off balance. It's a tremendously powerful thing. In the editorial of the same issue of Slovo were formulated the following reservations about Jabotinsky's article. Quote, the accusations made by the author against a progressive press correspond, in our opinion, to the reality of things. We understand the
Starting point is 00:25:15 sentiments that have inspired the author with his bitter remarks, but to impute to the Russian intelligency of the intention, so to speak deliberately, of sweeping the Jewish question under the rug, is unfair. The Russian reality has so many unresolved problems that we cannot devote much space to each of them. Yet, if many of these problems are resolved, this will have very important effects, including the Jews who are citizens of our common homeland. And if the editorialist of the Slovo had then asked Jabotinsky why he did not defend one or the other of those fools who uttered, quote, the most innocent remark about some particularity of the Jews, was Jewish opinion interested only in them? Did they take their part?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Or was it enough to observe how the Russian intelligentsia got rid of the anti-Semites? No, the Jews were no less responsible than the others for this taboo. You see, this is how Jewish power works. No other power works this way. Ethnic or otherwise. This is, this book is utter proof to what we deal with today. And even worse, what they deal with in Britain is nothing new. It's this fake victimhood
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know, I remember years ago And I was in college And even in high school You say some racial remark And you were thrown out of a school or something Well, how powerless could they be? How powerless could they be If even one little thing could
Starting point is 00:26:56 Of course they're powerful. They're culturally dominant I didn't know how to articulate way back when. But it's the same thing here. And I said 100 times that the czarists didn't build their own propaganda apparatus. The White Army never built their own propaganda apparatus. The church was doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And they certainly did it abroad after the revolution. But I don't think the czar fully understood the importance of propaganda. Tabatinski, he did. Another article in the same paper helped launch the discussion. The agreement, not the fusion of V. Golubov. Indeed, the Shurikov affair is far from being an isolated case. At the present time, the national question is also of concern to our intelligentsia.
Starting point is 00:27:54 In the recent past, especially in the year of the revolution, our intelligentsia had sinned very much by cosmopolitanism. But the struggles that have been fought within our community and between the nationalities that populate the Russian state have not disappeared without leaving traces. Like the other nationalities in those years, the Russians had to look at their own national question. When nationalities deprived of sovereignty began to self-determine, the Russians felt the need to do so as well. Even the history of Russia, we Russian intellectuals, we know it perhaps less well than European history. Universal ideals have always been more important to us than the edification of our own nation. But even according to Vladimir Soloviev, who is, however, very
Starting point is 00:28:37 far removed from nationalism, before being a bearer of universal ideas, it is essential to raise oneself to a certain national level. And the feeling of raising oneself seems to have begun to make its way into our intelligentsia. Until now, we have been silent on our own peculiarities. Remembering them in our memory does not constitute a manifestation of anti-Semitism and oppression of other nationalities. Between nationalities, there must be harmony and not fusion. Yeah. Internationalism and cosmopolitanism are two different things. Even though the Marxist used the word internationalism, internationalism applies that nations exist, and it's how they interact, that they're entities that exist on the world stage. Cosmopolitanism says there are no
Starting point is 00:29:25 nationalities, so it's just one universal reality. But Toloviyev is saying that unless you know what your own people are, you can't reject all of that and claim to be a cosmopolitan. I mean, we know now, of course, it's just forced on kids in school and everything else. Slovia was no expert on Russian history. Sergei Shloviov was. But I guess what we've heard from liberal Russians from then until now are just, You know, slogans about how evil czarism was or how terrible whites are owning slaves in the American South. You know, and unconscious racism and all that crap.
Starting point is 00:30:12 But that doesn't constitute knowledge. That's the opposite of knowledge. That's a short circuit in the brain. That's the result of propaganda, almost a trauma reaction. So I think, I think. These are liberals here. That's what he means by this sinned with cosmopolitanism. Alexander Herzen was an early 19th century Russian liberal,
Starting point is 00:30:45 or a westernizer, I should say, who once he went to the West, once he lived in England, suddenly became a Russian nationalist again. A tendency tends to happen. It changed him. In the abstract, it seems one thing. When you see it in front of your face, maybe this isn't what I want. Universal ideals have to be based on something.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So Slovia, you know, is believed in nations, certainly. But an international order. Now, of course, this was all before World War I, before World War II, you know, before the USSR you know you give them some breaks for that but of course the very fact that you know
Starting point is 00:31:39 they're they're making the same apologies that we have to make just you know making reference to one's own nation doesn't mean you hate everybody else every nation has its own peculiarities
Starting point is 00:31:53 the Jews especially you know it's like that many you know I don't if you've seen the most interesting Jew in the world. You know, however you view, there's a lot of truth to that, objective truth to that. Jews in the comments are laughing, saying, yeah, yeah, I guess so. You know, when you put it that way, it's a different story.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I think it just comes down to fear. Liberals needed Jewish money. Didn't want to piss them off. didn't want to say the wrong thing weren't quite sure of how to report on this stuff so they kind of didn't say anything I think that's been the thesis so far
Starting point is 00:32:36 well you know how all this works if you're talking about the Jews controlling the alcohol manufacturing and you know the way they promoted it to the peasants and you're
Starting point is 00:32:53 saying good job you know that was good capitalism there guys you know you you the advertising was great you guys made a buck off of it and um you know you had control of that that's fine as soon as you say as soon as you talk about that but you say well maybe they were taking advantage of people who you know were less educated than them less worldly than them and they um you know they actually they you know could have known they they knew they actually knew that these peasants had a um a tendency towards liking alcohol. They probably shouldn't have done that. You're in another, you're in another country
Starting point is 00:33:32 that has a way of doing things, has customs, and you've just broken the custom. But if you say that, then you obviously want to kill them all. That's exactly right. There's this hysteria attached to it. There's some kind of short circuit. I've been dealing with you've been dealing with it your whole life. I've been dealing with my whole life. Jews, really not blacks, especially, blacks and Jews, I don't know about anyone else, but homosexuals, that if you criticize them rationally, you hate them personally, and I am sick and tired of having to say, this isn't personal, this has to do with your aggregate effect on society, not the guy I went to school with, not my dentist, not the guy who lives down the street.
Starting point is 00:34:25 This is not a personal matter. One has nothing to do with the other. I actually have to explain to adults the difference between groups and individuals. And there's anyone who knows what a group is, it's the Jews. The editorial team of the newspaper may have taken all these precautions because it was preparing to publish the following day, March 10th, an article by P.B. Struve, quote, the intelligency on the national face, which had coincidentally arrived at the same time, then that. that of Jabotinsky, and also dealing with the Shurikov case. Struv wrote, this incident, which will soon be forgotten, has shown that something has moved in the minds,
Starting point is 00:35:06 something has moved in the minds, has awakened and will no longer be calmed, and we will have to rely on that. The Russian intelligentsia hides its national face. It is an attitude that imposes nothing, which is sterile. Nationality is something much more obvious, and at the same time, something subtle. It is the attraction and repulsion of the mind and to become aware of them. It is not necessary to resort to anthropometry. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I can't pronounce that word. Or to genealogy. Anthropometry. Okay, good. They live and palpitate in the depths of the soul. One can and must fight to make these attractions, repulsions, not to be brought into law, but political equality does not require from us national indifference. These attractions and repulsions belong to us.
Starting point is 00:36:01 They are our goods, the organic feeling of our national belonging. And I do not see the slightest reason to renounce this property in the name of anyone or anything. Remember, this wasn't something he wrote, the Cherukov caves. It wasn't the play itself. It was something he said later. And I don't even think in writing. I mean, people today are taught that there is no such thing as nationality, unless you're Jewish or black or Ukrainian. It's a very typical Soviet policy.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Whoever works for us will permit some kind of national assault to them. That we're all just individuals. We're all the same under the skin. We know that that's not true. But how can, you know, of course, Struve is not a, not a Jew, but how can Jews acclaim any kind of, they were ruling the intellectual life of at least a chunk? I think it's an exaggeration to say that they were the brain. It wasn't true. I've been reading stuff from this era for many, many years.
Starting point is 00:37:14 There's all kinds of nationalist stuff and royalist stuff. And, you know, but still, the Jewish question comes up in each and every one of these things. not the Germans, not the Arabs, not the Armenians, not the Georgians, not the Yossetians, not the Turks, but the Jews, the only ones who have this particular feature. But now, you know, the kids are taught that there is no such thing as ethnicity. There is no such thing as any kind of, what's the slogan that they use is more difference within group. between them or between them and within them, I should say. Whatever it is. It just doesn't matter. It's an arbitrary border.
Starting point is 00:38:02 That isn't true, of course. And then, of course, as the economic elites have demanded globalism from at least this era, if not before. Of course, they hate any kind of nationalists have been the only enemy of capitalism. I'm Marxism. Capitalists invested heavily in the USSR. No, nationalism. was the the enemy. And so, of course, you're going to be raised in a society that says it doesn't exist, or it's a bad thing, or it leads to warfare.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So, you know, a lot of this stuff in Russia was just getting talked about for the first time. He didn't have hate crime laws, obviously, in Zarath, Russia at the time. and not that wasn't until, you know, the Mulsivik. So you could talk about this rationally and fully. And it was interesting back. It's not interesting now because, first of all, Jews control most of the discussion about them. And secondly, you know, the non-Jews, when they dare talk about something like this, they're scared to death. For the same reason we've already said.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yes, insist, shrews. It is essential to draw a border between the legal. the political domains in the realm where these sentiments live, especially with regard to the Jewish question, it is both very easy and very difficult. The Jewish question is formerly a question of law, and for this reason, it is easy and natural to help solve it, to grant the Jews equal rights.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yes, of course. But at the same time, it is very difficult because the force of rejection towards the Jews in different strata of Russian society is considerable, and it requires great moral force in a very rational mind, too, despite this repulsion, resolved definitively this question of right. However, even though there is a great force of rejection
Starting point is 00:39:55 toward the Jews among large segments of the Russian population of all the foreigners, the Jews are those who are closest to us, those who are the most closely linked to us. It has historical... Does he mean the Qazars? Does he mean the Qazars? All right. And remember, this is in Solzhenitsyn talking.
Starting point is 00:40:16 This is Struve writing. Right, right. This is not Solstinian. Right. It is a historical paradox, but it is so. The Russian intelligentsia has always regarded the Jews as Russians, and it is neither fortuitous nor the effect of a misunderstanding. The deliberate initiative of rejecting Russian culture and asserting Jewish national singularity does not belong to the Russian intelligentsia, but to this movement known as Zionism. I do not feel any sympathy for Zionism, but I understand that the problem of Jewish nationality does indeed exist, and it poses itself, and even poses itself more and more. It is significant that he places national and Jewish in quotation marks.
Starting point is 00:40:56 He still cannot believe that the Jews think of themselves as others. There does not exist. Yeah, that's, in the parenthesis, in the parentheses, that was socializing. There does not exist in Russia other foreigners who play a role as important. important in Russian culture. And here is another difficulty. They play this role while remaining Jews. One cannot, for example, deny the role of the Germans in Russian culture and science, but by immersing themselves in Russian culture, the Germans completely blend into it. With the Jews, that's another matter.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I don't know what he's, you know, part of Russian identity very early on, we talked about this to, oh, God knows how many years ago when we started this thing. Um, the Svatoslav, um, destroying the Khazars Khanate, the slave raids, the, um, the tolls that they charged at the Volga, you know, it, there was always a contempt for this, this, this, this, this Jude, I mean, they're, they're Kazars, especially if no other place than in Russia. So even talking about Semites, when you're right next to, literally right next to Kazaria, doesn't make any sense to me. Clearly these are Khazar Turks or, you know, mixed Turks, whatever they, whatever else is down
Starting point is 00:42:31 there. But, no, Russian Jews don't see themselves as Russians. unless, of course, it benefits them for the moment. You know, they play an important role, that's for sure. It doesn't mean it's a good role in Russian culture, but it also comes from the fact that they could buy it. That they simply had the power. What are they talking about equal rights for
Starting point is 00:43:01 when you have people like this saying that they control the cultural discourse, or at least are number two in the cultural discourse here? and we know that the peasants hated them you know that many of the Russian Russian speaking merchants hated them they've dealt with them before especially in the western part of the country you know
Starting point is 00:43:22 people who have actually dealt with them one on one and it's hard you know some of these liberals I mean Kant even didn't like them of all people Kant didn't like them but you know he's still a beacon of the enlightenment um you know it's hard to believe that a lot of
Starting point is 00:43:44 these guys maybe didn't believe what they were saying um yeah there was a lot of foreigners within the russian empire russia wasn't a country it was an empire russia is an empire the russian empire is something something different um but this nonsense that this russian society has always viewed jews as closest to them is utter nonsense i mentioned the kazaria thing because that was some of Russia's very early sense of self-identity came from its wars with Khazaria. The exact opposite is true. And he concludes, we must not deceive our national feeling or hide our faces. I have a right, like any Russian to these feelings.
Starting point is 00:44:26 The better it understood, the less there will be misunderstandings in the future. Yes, oh, if we had woken up, as much as we are, a few decades earlier. the Jews, they had awakened long before the Russians. I think this is a good place to stop for the day. Yeah, yeah, we're to keep going with Shroove. It's already close to an hour. All right. Yeah, this is perfect.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah, and you're not feeling well. So, yeah, I am not. At least we got something recorded. Good. All right. I encourage everyone. Go to the show notes. Go to the description of the videos.
Starting point is 00:45:04 and donate to Dr. Johnson, please keep him not working, having to get a job so that he can keep studying and he can keep educating us. So, as always, thank you, Dr. Johnson. I appreciate it. Thank you, my friend. No problem. I want to welcome everyone back to part 52 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Dr. Jay, how are you doing today? well I'm about 90% over I think it's COVID my third time around it has to be it feels the exact same way just much less severe um you know where I get I can't concentrate for as long but I think I'm about 90% there I haven't skipped anything I haven't missed anything I fought through it um I guess my body's used to it by now um but um But I'm back to work like normal. I think today, you know, I see, yeah, 90% is about where I am. So it sucks.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It was about a week and a half. Yeah. I get sick. I get very frustrated with it. Yeah. Glad to have you back even at 90%, you're better than most people. 50% you're better than most people at 100%. Yeah, it's like Judge Judy used to say, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:31 on my worst day, I'm better than you on your best day. On that note, we will continue. But the very next day, it was a whirlwind, as if all the newspapers had waited for that. From the liberal Hacha Gazeta, is this the right moment to talk about this? And the right-wing newspaper Nouveauvremia to the organ of the Democratic constitutional
Starting point is 00:47:01 party wretch, where Milikov could not help exclaiming Jabotinsky has succeeded in breaking the wall of silence and all the frightening and threatening things that the progressive press and the intelligentsy have sought to hide from the Jews now appear in their true dimension. But later on, argumentative and cold as usual, Milikov goes on to the verdict. It begins with an important warning. Where does it lead? Who benefits from it? The national face, which, moreover, we must not hide, is a step toward the worst of fanaticism.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Thus, the national face must be hidden. Thus, the slippery slope of aesthetic nationalism will precipitate the intelligentsia towards its degeneration, towards a true tribal chauvinism engendered in the putrid atmosphere of the reaction reigning over today's society. He's saying this to Jews. He's saying this to the most tribal and chauvinistic group of people. people on the planet, you know, there's got to be the cognitive dissonance with the, with these writers, either then or now, has got to be extraordinary, how much of this was
Starting point is 00:48:17 actually believed. But, you know, what self-interest certainly allows you to rationalize a whole lot. But cognitive dissonance is no way to, no way to live. but P.B. Struve, with an almost juvenile agility in spite of his 40 years, retaliates as soon as March 12th in the columns of the slovo to the professorial speech of Milikov. And above all, to the sleight of hand, where does it lead? Who benefits from it? Who will draw the chestnuts from the fire? This is how people will be silenced, whatever they say, for a hundred years or more.
Starting point is 00:48:55 This is a falsifying process that denotes a total inability to understand that a speech can be honest and have weight in itself. Our point of view is not refuted on the merits, but confronted on the polemic mode to a projection. Where does it lead? A few days later, he wrote again in the Slovo, quote, it is an old process to discredit both an idea that does not share and the one who formulates it, insinuating perfidiously that the people of the Nouveauvreys that, or Ruskoi Namia will find it quite to their liking. This procedure is, in our opinion, utterly unworthy of progressive press. Then as to the substance, national questions are nowadays associated with powerful, sometimes violent feelings, to the extent that they express in everyone the consciousness
Starting point is 00:49:48 of their national identity, these feelings are fully legitimate, and to stifle them is a great villainy. That is it. If they are repressed, they will reappear in a denatured form. As for this, asemitism, which would be the worst thing, it is in fact a much more favorable ground for a legal solution of the Jewish question than the endless struggle between anti-Semitism and phylo-Semitism. There is no non-Russian nationality that needs, all Russians to love it without reservation, even less that they pretend to love. of it. In truth, asemitism, combined with a clear and lucive conception of certain moral and political principles and certain political constraints, is much more necessary and useful to
Starting point is 00:50:36 our Jewish compatriots than a sentimental and soft phylo-Semitism, especially if this one is simulated. And it is good that the Jews see the national face of Russian constitutionalism in democratic society. And it is of no use to them to speak under the delusion that this face belongs. only to anti-Semitic fanaticism. This is not the head of the Medusa, but the honest and human face of the Russian nation, without which the Russian state would not stand up. And again, these lines in Slovo's editorial team,
Starting point is 00:51:09 Harmony implies recognition and respect for all the specificities of each nationality. That's a lot of verbiage to say very little. I'm not 100% sure what he's trying to say here. This is a cadet newspaper, so they're not trying to be objective. We talked about Asemitism the last time. But the last thing that you can call any of the constitutional Democrats or cadets, or they had a bunch of different nicknames is national.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I guess it was pretty much normal at the time, you know, compared to what we have today. and by Russian nation, Russian state, I'm not sure, you know, from a fairly liberal writer, what they're talking about. These are you talking about the monarchy? You know, yeah, you know, harmony implies recognition, you know, all that. You know, we hear that every day. But this was a whole lot of verbiage. And maybe it's just a translation. But I'm not 100% sure what he's going for here.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Heated debates continued in the newspapers. Within a few days, the whole literature was formed on the subject. We assisted in the progressive press to something unthinkable even a short time ago. There is a debate on the question of great Russian nationalism. But the discussion only reached this level in the Slovo. The other papers concentrated on the question of attractions and repulsions. The intelligentsia turned its anger towards its hero of the day before. Jabotinsky also gave voice and even twice, quote,
Starting point is 00:52:50 The bear came out of his lair, he lashed out, addressed to P. Struve, a man who was, however, so calm and well-balanced. Jabotinsky, on the other hand, felt offended. He described his article as well as that of Milikov as a famous batch. Their languorous declamation is impregnated with hypocrisy and sincerity, cowardice and opportunism, which is why it is so incorrigibly worthless and to ironize in quoting Milikov, thus the holy and pure Russian intelligency of old felt feelings of repulsion at the encounter of the Jews. Bizar, no? He criticized the holy and pure climate of this marvelous country in the zoological species of Yorthus Judaophagus intellectualis. The conciliatory
Starting point is 00:53:45 Winnever also took for his rank the Jewish footmen of the Russian palace. Jabotinsky fulminated at the idea that the Jews should wait until was resolved the central political problem, i.e. the Tsar's deposition. We thank you for having such a flattering opinion of our dispositions behave like a dog with his master, on the celebrity of faithful Israel. He even concluded by stating that never before the exploitation of a people by any had ever been revealed with such ingenuous cynicism. It must be admitted that this excessive virulence hardly contributed to the victory of his cause.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Moreover, the near future was going to show that it was precisely the deposition of the Tsar, which would open the Jews to even more possibilities than they sought to obtain and cut the grass under the foot of Zionism in Russia, so much and so well that Jabotinsky was also deceived on the merits. You know, he was, of course, you know, one of the early Zionist leaders, right? Violent man, violent temper. You know, he should be more worried about figuring out a way to get to the Middle East or Madagascar or wherever he wanted to go rather than worry about Russia. In fact, the whole point of Zionism here seems to be, let's destroy the, you know, ultimate glory, the czar.
Starting point is 00:55:08 and then maybe we'll have an easier time leaving. You know, if they want to leave the country, what do they care? You know, there's this internally internal hatred that they can't get away from. That the fact that he would actually utter the phrase exploitation of a people by another,
Starting point is 00:55:33 he knows his nation lives that way. You know, if you, if you had no presuppositions whatsoever and you came across, you live close to a Jewish community, no presuppositions, you would end up being very hostile to them. It's only propaganda and lies and storytelling that forces that, again, a more cognitive dissonance. I'm not really seeing what I'm seeing. Jabotinsky is an extremely violent individual. I mean, the creation of the state of Israel, as fake as it is, required tremendous violence. He is a Machiavellian.
Starting point is 00:56:18 But he just, I don't know if this is just all projection, or, you know, you would figure with all their money and wealth, they should be figuring out a way to leave, which would be great for everybody. Much later, and with the retreat of time, another witness of that era, then a member of the Bund recalled that in the years 1907 through 1914, some liberal intellectuals were affected by the epidemic, if not of open anti-Semitism, at least a-Semitism that struck Russia then. On the other hand, having gotten over the extremist tendencies that had arisen during the first Russian revolution, they were tempted to hold the Jews accountable whose participation in
Starting point is 00:57:04 the revolution had been blatant. In the years leading up to the war, the rise of Russian nationalism was present in certain circles where at first sight the Jewish problem was only a short time before perceived as a Russian problem. This is why, or I shouldn't say this is not the only reason, but one of the reasons why Bolivism was a purely totalitarian ideology. It was so top-heavy with Jews. They knew they were unpopular. They knew that they resonated with only a handful of people. They knew that they had been lying about their agenda up until this point anyway. They knew how
Starting point is 00:57:39 Jewish this movement was and how alien it was to your typical Russian. And this is why they had to have, you know, the anti-Semitism laws and you know, totally controlled press and everything else. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I mean, even during World War I, you had an economy that was growing. The war wasn't going badly for Russia at the time, especially when Nicholas took over personally. You had a surge of patriotic spirit, which, of course, Jews can't handle. Their utter enemy is the nationalism, a group of people in which they live, especially, especially Russia. And the Boone, of course, was a Jewish organization, but it's out of that organization that the other extreme left parties came from.
Starting point is 00:58:32 so yeah Jews being held accountable that was that was the worst possible thing that they could hear yeah i will say this they keep mentioning asemitism even people who don't you know understand the Jewish question or have read Jewish history like I have after October 7th they recognize that these Jews that were absolutely losing their minds on social media, they were perfectly fine if you were 100% with them or 100% against them. But if you were neutral to it, that upset them more than anything. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Neutral to what? Neutral to what happened. Like if you, like on October 7th. Yeah, it's like, oh, if you, yeah, if you were just like, well, I mean, that's over there. That's not my problem. why does this have anything to do with me? They were more hostile to you if you took to people who took that attitude than they were to people who are like, well, you asked for this.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You know, what do you expect after 75 years? Yeah, yeah. In 1912, Jabotinsky himself, this time in a more balanced tone, reported this judicious observation of a prominent Jewish journalist. As soon as the Jews are interested in some cultural activity, immediately the latter becomes foreign to the Russian public. who is no longer attracted to it, a kind of invisible rejection. It is true that a national demarcation cannot be avoided.
Starting point is 01:00:10 It will be necessary to organize life in Russia without external additions, which, in so large a quantity, perhaps cannot be tolerated by the Russians. To consider all that has been presented above, the most accurate conclusion is to say that within the Russian intelligentsia, we're developing simultaneously, as history offers many examples, two processes that, with regard to the Jewish problem, were distinguished by a question of temperament, not by a degree of sympathy. But the one represented by Struve was too weak, uncertain, and was stifled, whilst the one who was trumpeted with his phylo-Semitism in the collection of the shield enjoyed a wide publicity and prevailed among public opinion.
Starting point is 01:00:55 There is only to regret that Jabotinsky did not recognize Struve's point of view as its fair value. As for the 1909 debate in the Slovo columns, it was not limited to the Jewish question, but turned into a discussion of Russian national consciousness, which, after the 80 years of silence that followed, remains today still vivacious and instructive. P. Struve wrote, just as we must not russify those who do not want it, so we must not dissolve ourselves in Russian multinationalism. V. Gulliubov protested against the monopolization of patriotism and nationalism by reactionary groups.
Starting point is 01:01:38 We have lost sight of the fact that the victories won by the Japanese have had a disastrous effect on the popular conscience and national sentiment. Our defeat not only humiliated our bureaucrats, as public opinion hoped, but indirectly the nation as well. Oh, no, not indirectly, not indirectly, quite directly. Russian nationality has vanished, nor is it a joke that the flourishing of the word Russian itself, which have been transformed into authentically Russian. The progressive intelligentsia has let these two notions go, abandoning them to the people of the right. Patriotism we could only conceive in its quotation marks, but we must compete with reactionary
Starting point is 01:02:20 patriotism with a popular patriotism. we have frozen in our refusal of the patriotism of the black hundreds and if we have opposed something of it it is not another conception of patriotism but of universal ideals and yet all our cosmopolitanism has not allowed us until today to fraternows with the Polish society I think this is an early conception of unconscious racism I think one possible reason for that is that they don't necessarily speak Polish or that they've been enemies for a very long time. What do they care?
Starting point is 01:02:58 What way or the other? Nationalism as a cultural and ethnic matter is totally incompatible with liberalism. It's incompatible with, you know, things like the untrammeled free market or or any typical libertarian point of view. It's a communal, idealistic way of thinking. the concept of this Soviet patriotism, which developed years after Stalin, which is still, unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:03:32 my big disagreement with Putin in his lionization of the Second World War, which is popular there. I mean, I get why he does it, but not a huge fan of it. You have to be very careful in how any of these people
Starting point is 01:03:49 are defining the term. We're nationalists, generally speaking. on ethnic and religious in my case and there can't be anything i mean this is a communal ideology it's not an individualistic one therefore it can't be a liberal one it's that simple a pagodin was able to say that after v solov's violent indictment of the danilevsky book russia and Europe, after Gradovsky's articles were the first manifestations of this consciousness, which, like the instinct of self-preservation, awakens among the people when danger threatens them.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Coincidentally, at the very moment when this polemic took place, Russia had to endure its national humiliation. It was forced to recognize with pitiable resignation, the annexation by Austria of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was equivalent. to a diplomatic Su-Shinna. Fatality leads us to raise this question, which was formerly entirely foreign to the Russian intelligentsia, but which life itself imposes on us with a brutality that forbids all evasion. In conclusion, the Silva wrote...
Starting point is 01:05:07 Well, I don't know. They're spelling it. It's the Tushina, meaning that the naval battle, which, the Russian that was a surprise attack, Russians didn't lose it for a whole bunch of reasons. I think he's exaggerating when he's talking about that that was identical to Bosnia
Starting point is 01:05:27 or to Govina which I guess ultimately came out of the Treaty of Berlin and it progressed from there that's a wild exaggeration you know the only reason that the Turkish Empire existed at the time was because of the West
Starting point is 01:05:47 especially the British. The British kept it alive for the repayment of debt. They took over the finance department and everything else. But I would recommend Russia and Europe by Mikhail Danylowski and as well as Leontyev, a student, and I have many papers on those floating around. They're excellent works. and um but but to consider you know the bosnian case to be you know a national humiliation like a military defeat well remember the ruse of japanese war the japanese didn't get very much
Starting point is 01:06:27 they their goals were not achieved during that war so um and losses were about the same and as i said before in japan it was seen as a defeat for the japanese one of the general even committed suicide um you know ritual suicide because he he failed completely it's just how the liberal press was talking about it that made this invention of this awful defeat same thing for Crimea there were defeats but it wasn't a defeat over you know in total um but again
Starting point is 01:07:05 liberals are about the last people on the planet they should be talking about national identity since they rejected um out of hand. In conclusion, the Slovo wrote, a fortuitous incident triggered quite a journalistic storm. This means that Russian society needs national awareness. In the past, it had turned away not only from a false anti-national policy, but also from genuine nationalism without which a policy cannot really be built. A people capable of creation cannot but have its own face, meaning with
Starting point is 01:07:41 was certainly a nationalist. A constructive nationalist possessing the sense of the state is peculiar to living nations, and that is what we need now. Just as 300 years ago, history tells us to reply, to say, in the dark hours of trial, if we have the right, like any people worthy of the name, to exist by ourselves. Remember, and within the empire itself, you take Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians, it was a huge majority of... of the country. Others, especially the Christians, like Armenia and Georgia, asked
Starting point is 01:08:17 to be a part of the empire because they're surrounded by Islamic enemies. Many others, many other tribes, were fiercely loyal throughout, even during the Russian Civil War. So,
Starting point is 01:08:34 you know, there was no attempt to force orthodoxy on them or anything else. But yes, there is a a definite distinction between the ethno nation, which is a result of all the sufferings and struggles of a people, just like a family, you know, that creates this identity, creates traditions, you know, it's ways of survival,
Starting point is 01:08:56 mechanisms of survival, which is what tradition is, and the state that it might not even be politicized. When it's politicized, of course, in Russia, it created the monarchy, you know, for something that large, for something surrounded by enemies. and it was a national monarchy despite the fact that not every single human being in the empire was a Slav. And yet, even if apparently the year 1909 was rather peaceful, one felt that the storm was in the air. However, certain things were not lost sight of M. Slavinsky. Attempts to russify or, more exactly, to impose the Russian model on Russia, have had a disastrous effect. disastrous effect on living national peculiarities, not only of all the non-sovereign peoples of the
Starting point is 01:09:45 empire, but also and above all of the people of Great Russia. The cultural forces of the people of Great Russia proved insufficient for this. For the nationality of Great Russia, only the development of the interior, a normal circulation of blood, is good. Alas, even today, the lesson has not been assimilated. Necessary is the struggle against physiological nationally, when a stronger people tries to impose on others who are less so a way of life that is foreign to them. But an empire as this could not have been constituted solely by physical force. There was also a moral force. And if we possess this force, then the equality of rights of other peoples, Jews as well as Poles, do not threaten us in any way.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Well, that's an incredibly stupid statement. Remember, this is going on in the cadet. press, the liberal press. You can't equate Jews and Poles here. One's a normal group of people, the others that have a normal group of people. Russification
Starting point is 01:10:51 is largely a myth. I think it happened at the local level, but certainly not from Petersburg. That served no one's interest. It was stupid. There were attacks on Ukrainian separatism, certainly. That's not the same thing as Russification.
Starting point is 01:11:08 This is this is not a country, this is an empire. So the political system is going to be very different. But you can't just throw, this is almost like an as a-semitism. You can't just throw Jews and Poles like they're equivalent together, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:22 as an afterthought like they're doing here. We know what the equality and rights that the Jews would be. They would be far worse than the situation was at the time. It's a pure Jewish oligarchy. You know, they would have, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:37 repealed all the rights. of peasants to hold their land. The reason why they had the communes was so that no one could take them. They're inalienable. It's one of the great things about feudalism in general, even though it wasn't futile. It's really the only thing the peasants care about.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Jews are not the same as everybody else. No one's talking about Armenians or Georgians here. Jews are a completely separate category, and as we've been talking about from the beginning, don't function like any normal group of people. In the 19th century already,
Starting point is 01:12:13 an a fortiori at the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian intelligentsia felt that it was at a high level of global consciousness, universality, cosmopolitanism, or internationality. At the time, little difference was made between all these notions. In many fields, it had almost entirely denied what was Russian national,
Starting point is 01:12:34 what was Russian, national, from the top of the Tribune, of the Duma, one practiced at the pun, Patriot Iskariot. As for the Jewish intelligentsia, it did not deny its national identity. Even the most extreme of Jewish socialists struggle to reconcile their ideology with national sentiment. At the same time, there was no voice among the Jews, from Dubnov to Jabotinsky, passing by Winiver, to say that the Russian intelligentsia, who supported their persecuted brothers with all their souls, might not give up on his own national feeling.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Equity would have required it, but no one perceived this disparity. Under the notion of equality of rights, the Jew understood something more. Thus, the Russian intelligentsia, solitary, took the road to the future. I don't think there was any struggle of Jewish socialists to reconcile anything.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I think it was perfectly normal. It was a Tikunulam. I think it just made perfect sense to them. They were, I assume they're talking about Jewish national sentiment, not Russian. That wouldn't even be a question here. I assume they mean Jewish nationalism. Moses has took care of that problem long ago. There was no doubt you could even observe some of the holidays and be a total atheist and materialist, as most of the Jews were.
Starting point is 01:14:02 there was absolutely no no struggle there the Jewish intelligence you had no time did it deny its its national identity however to be a Russian is to be Orthodox that's a you know you can't talk about almost everything in Russian culture derives from from the church it's on to the language and the cuisine and everything else
Starting point is 01:14:30 even the calendar there's no getting out of that. There is no Russian culture outside of orthodoxy. But with the Jews, it was no problem. In this era, thanks to people like Marx and Moses Hess, being a Jew and being an extreme socialist, made perfect sense. There was no struggle there. But they wanted everyone else to deny who they were.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Now, it is true that Lenin, like, you know, promoted Ukrainian nationalism for a while, like the U.S. does now, because it hurt Russia. Russia was always exploited during the existence of the Soviet Union. Russian nationalism was the only one that was consistently persecuted, even in their own country. That's why Soviet Russia doesn't make any sense at all. And the only prison of nations was actually the USSR.
Starting point is 01:15:26 The outside republics along the fringes, sometimes they were left alone like the Armenians who did very well but at no time at no time did the Jews ever dream of denying anything Jewish about them because it was so fluid to begin with
Starting point is 01:15:48 and I think after the Belize case after the so-called pogroms and everything else we've been talking about the last few weeks this is what held them together. This is what held them together. That's what being a Jew was. Therefore, being a Russian liberal, this is deny Russian identity entirely, which is why this whole debate is so stupid. And your position on the Jewish question is one of the main issues of where you
Starting point is 01:16:17 stood on the political spectrum at the time. The Jews did not obtain equal rights under the czars, but, and probably partly for this very reason, they obtained the hand and the fidelity of the Russian intelligentsia. The power of their development, their energy, their talent penetrated the consciousness of Russian society. The idea we had of our perspectives, of our interests, the impetus we gave
Starting point is 01:16:40 to the search for solutions to our problems, all this, we incorporated into the idea that they were getting of it themselves. We have adopted their version of our history and how to get out of it. Understanding this is much more important than calculating the percentage of Jews who tried to destabilize,
Starting point is 01:16:58 Russia, all of whom we did, who made the revolution or participated in Bolshevik power? I think we can go back to Gabriel D'Urjavins' first commission under Emperor Paul and then very early years of Emperor Alexander I, where, I mean, he had no presuppositions. He's one of these guys who, if anything, may have been a little phylo-Semitic. and was sent, if you remember, was sent to Belarus, heavy Jewish areas like Gomel, to try to figure out why do the peasants hate these people? Why is there so much violence? And he found out.
Starting point is 01:17:38 He was barely out of his carriage, and he saw it. He saw the manipulation, the hatred of these peasants, the manipulation of alcohol monopoly. The fact that they were plugged into this huge international credit agency, really, this huge bank, they would always have access to it, the underselling, their dishonesty, things that the Russian merchants didn't do. I mean, you had about a 50-50 split at this point with Russian versus Jewish merchants, if that. Debt means control. Debt means that you default, land or homes, go to you.
Starting point is 01:18:24 This is how they end up controlling huge chunks of territory. largely through manipulative means. And as much money as the Jewish merchants were getting from at that time the trade in grain, the peasants were not getting any benefit. And they dare talk about exploitation. Nothing has changed up into this point. They may have changed the language. Of course, the Kahul system was gone.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Some more, a handful more spoke Russian for the first time. they took liberalism and leftism in general as their basic core vehicle but it's just a vehicle that's the only thing that changed as far as Jewish behavior was concerned I mean even mainstream writers and I was shocked to see this
Starting point is 01:19:14 when we talked about Kim Ilniewski many I don't know months ago last year I think the Jews in the Polish Empire you even have mainstream historians who can't get out of the fact that Jews were awful in their behavior. They were so manipulative to a group of people who really weren't aware what was happening.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Their moral code was completely different. And they took advantage of that. Huge amounts, huge amounts of land they controlled through usury. And all the different methods, all the different tricks that they used. nothing really has changed at this point the ideology everything else is just a vehicle I think Marxism was their ultimate vehicle because it permitted the complete total ownership and control of the economy from one spot central planning just meant you owned the party owned everything the party owned everything you distribute whatever wanted to it had nothing
Starting point is 01:20:19 to do with labor had nothing to do labor the proletariat we talked about why they were chosen as a group have nothing to do with their well-being, for the most part, the proletariat disliked the Jewish mind, disliked the merchants. It wasn't like he was in the city voluntarily, and certainly in the countryside, they despised the city. So this is how they had to function, and by this time, it just became, you know, you still had a fairly healthy society to hear. Compared to ours, it was a very healthy society. Say 1911, 1912. It was very healthy. You even had plenty of Russian liberals who knew deep down what the Jews really were. But, of course, I had a lot of money. They were promoting liberal journals and liberal
Starting point is 01:21:11 journalists. No different than today. Huge amounts of money to revolutionary groups from Jews even outside of the country, especially from Britain. We talked about the Rothschild family here. But remember, liberalism, Marxism, these are various vehicles that the Jews used. And it didn't matter whether you were so-called religious,
Starting point is 01:21:35 Zionist, socialist, you could all be on the same side. Their press created a whole mythos about Russian world. That these are just incorrigibly evil people. They'll accuse us of crazy
Starting point is 01:21:50 crimes like or ritual murder or kill us for no reason except that they're jealous about how well we're doing equal rights would just mean that they could completely dominate the country there has to be limits on them
Starting point is 01:22:04 because they're not it's like it's like trying to say equal rights with the mafia you can't do that most people don't think like those guys do and I said from the very beginning the Jews in Russia acted far more like a
Starting point is 01:22:19 criminal syndicate than they did like a normal ethnic group and no other ethnic group had to deal with this kind of thing which is more evidence to that end they functioned like a criminal syndicate there was always a handful of legitimate conversions to orthodoxy maybe we've more than a handful but the only thing that Jews care about is cohesion
Starting point is 01:22:44 we know that and we should actually take lessons from that numbers don't matter majorities don't make history fanatical determined minorities do that's what changes history the masses
Starting point is 01:22:59 if you want to call them that are usually inert you know they'll go along with whatever but as Gumel have called it the passionaries this handful of fanatics that's what makes history
Starting point is 01:23:15 and so we should remember that numbers don't really match matter. Things can change very quickly. You had only one person. I might be wrong. St. John of Kronstadt had predicted the Soviet Union or something very much like it. There may have been a few others. Maybe just asking years ago, sort of indirectly, but no one knew what was coming. No one knew what these people were going to do when they took power. Of course, today we know. But this was a stupid debate from these people. People who were not really, you know, Russian deep down. I'm not, I have no Russian ethnicity in me whatsoever, but I'm far more Russian than these people.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I'm certainly more Orthodox than these people. They were trying to destabilize, they were trying to destroy the monarchy. They were trying to make Russia just like any other European liberal power. and we know what that leads to. The Jews, however, took it to the next level, once World War I started,
Starting point is 01:24:28 and the revolution began in 1917. Let me ask, who in Russia at this time would have been disciples of Bakunin and Prudon? Oh, I mean, anarchists. Who was an anarchist at the time? I mean, even Slovia have had certain elements like that in him. You still had plenty of Slavophiles.
Starting point is 01:24:56 You know, but remember Pruthon's central idea centered around the family. I guess anarchists don't read. The family was central. Pruton despised the Jews because of their war against the he was, of course, a Frenchman.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You know, people following, you know, Slovia would be a pretty decent example, I guess. he was a Hegelian of sorts but once instability got out of control it was really hard to get away from the necessity of the state
Starting point is 01:25:33 the Slavophiles had their height subordinos had their height in from the 1840s to the 1860s but that was a bit before terrorism took over So, you know, the Silver Age poets, even Bele and Bloch, there were certain healthy elements there. They even use the words of Bournos, you know, sometimes in their writing.
Starting point is 01:26:07 It wasn't always good, but there were certainly healthy elements in it. I spent a huge amount of time many years ago on the silver, so-called silver age in Russian literature, of the turn of the century. But at this point, then, of course, you had the old believers. Now, you had enough, many of the old believers did want a republic, which was incredibly stupid and short-sighted. I'm not saying all of them did.
Starting point is 01:26:37 But I've read a lot of their documents at the time, even up until now. I have a book out on them. And you figured they would be the best in that regard. They still hold to the of the spiritual community. And the great new martyr, Andrew of, I can't think of it in South Russia. It was an almsk, not almsk. I can't think of his name off the top of my head, who was kind of an, he was a bishop in the Russian church, was also an old believer.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I've done much on him. years ago, I can't think of his name. He was Archbishop in Utk. I can't think of it. I haven't thought about him for a while, but there were a number of people who realized this was a spiritual ideal, but the timing was a different matter. You can't talk about, you know, this kind of spiritual anarchism. when you're at war even internally
Starting point is 01:27:53 you know Udemoski that's it Andrew Odomoski was a great writer he probably would be your best example he was a semi old believer semi official
Starting point is 01:28:11 who is very interesting to read I don't know how much of this stuff exists in English he tries to combine the two you know and he says he says so much of these problems comes from the old believer'sism comes from what Peter did in the beginning of the 18th century
Starting point is 01:28:31 which is connected to that that you had two you know senses of Russian identity that were both considered right wing at the time you know you had the Slavophiles and you had Nicholas the first Nicholas the second tried to synthesize them both
Starting point is 01:28:47 But as we know, he was surrounded by traitors who forced them out and who forged a abdication. So you had many in the church who were writing this way. St. Andrew would be your best bet. He was someone of a semi-anarchist. There was always an anarchist vision in the old believers. But they also, some of them were realists too, depending on how extreme they were. And especially since, you know, Andrew was within the, sort of within the official church. But while being an old believer, of course, that whole thing had been taken care of the Edinaveri and all that.
Starting point is 01:29:38 I tried to synthesize it. It didn't work that well, but it did show the old believers were still part of the official church to some extent, a handful of them anyway. You even had in the Russian Orthodox Church outside of Russia and America for a while, up in Erie. So that vision was around, and don't forget the Cossacks. Deep down, the Cossack military circle was, as they may have accepted the monarchy, but they were autonomous,
Starting point is 01:30:09 and they believed in their own autonomy and their own independence more than anything else. It does mean they rejected the monarchy, but they wanted to do their own thing. within that context. And a huge number of the Cossacks ended up serving Zara Nicholas. Most of them
Starting point is 01:30:25 were totally at war with the Bolsheviks during the Russian Civil War, although many of them were also very short-sighted. They really only cared about their own sectional independence not realizing this is a huge nationwide war
Starting point is 01:30:40 that's going to eventually destroy you. I've been dealing with this for a very long time. the old Kossack Krug idea is still around. So there were semi-anarchist ideas there too. So, you know, I think there were a lot in the Silver Age just were anarchistic by their very existence. But some of them were, you know, I can't help it, though, you know, as much as I I like reading them as crazy as they were.
Starting point is 01:31:20 At least most of them were non-nominalists. They were platonists. In fact, symbolism couldn't be anything other than platonic. So it was still very popular. But wasn't popular, was this kind of garbage. But wasn't popular. Was this Jewish domination of society through a central planning board? They never talked about it until that actually happened.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Collectivization? Well, that had been discussed beforehand, but only secretly. If they said it openly, there was, you know, minuscule support for them to begin with. If they had said that openly, it would have been awful. And what they would have done to the church, of course, they weren't talking about that either. So that's why, as I said before, once they took over, they needed to destroy. They couldn't just neutralize. They had to destroy their opposition and either exile them or kill them or send them on the
Starting point is 01:32:15 prison, which is what Bolshevism wants throughout months of its existence. I would encourage people who are listening to go to Radio Albion and the episode that Dr. Johnson dropped on June 4th of this year, title Carl Marx on the Jewish question. You're going to get a lot out of that. And if you understand exactly the information that's in there, you're going to listen to it more than once. because it's really important to not only see how the Jewish question was approached from people who would be on the historic right, but this covers how people on the historic left and even
Starting point is 01:32:58 the radical left approach the Jewish question. I know that was, I've been getting a lot of emails and stuff about that. I don't know why it took me so long to get into it. I've been reading Karl Marx's early stuff. college, and the Udayan Fraga is right in there. There's a few other things. He's responding to somebody, so I talked about that person, too. It's not very long, but my God, you don't expect this coming from Karl Marx.
Starting point is 01:33:32 They just kind of pretend it didn't happen. Marxists just think it was as capital and nothing else. They just kind of pretend that he never said any of that stuff. But he wasn't shy. he knew exactly what the concept of the Jews was at the time and that the Christians were just going to be turned into the same thing because remember you have to have capitalism before socialism so you have to Judaize everybody before a revolution can occur
Starting point is 01:34:00 Russia was probably a bad example of that but when everyone is out for money when everyone's out for profit when everyone doesn't really care about God anymore they're Judaized. They become, you know, Calvinist, as judiized as you can get, let alone the rule of the Freemasons over Western and Eastern societies. Yes, I'm very proud of that. I'm very happy with it.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I do recommend you listen to it. Yeah, the quote, there's a quote on that Prudon has that I think most people who would promote prudone don't want you to hear Prudone Prudon just go listen to that episode you're going to want to listen to it more of the ones you might even want to take some notes because
Starting point is 01:34:57 yeah what it's it wasn't only people it wasn't only people on the historic right the people who the historic traditionalists the Orthodox Catholics No, when it came time for revolution from the left, they understood. They understood the role.
Starting point is 01:35:21 So, yeah. All right, I'm going to encourage everyone to go and go to the show notes and go to the comments in the videos. And please donate to Dr. Johnson. keep him working he's working on two books right now at least uh yeah at least two books so um go keep i don't even know i could i couldn't name him more right now i've been out of it for the last week okay yeah it's true um go keep him unemployed so that he can uh finish us up and um keep doing what we're doing together so um thank you dr johnson and i'll see in a couple days All right, man, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to part 53 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenieson. How are you doing today, Dr. Johnson? You know what? I'm doing very well, and partially because finally, I was able to talk to Sven Longshanks on the phone. Oh, wow. Because of his probation, he has a list. And it took me a while to get on there.
Starting point is 01:36:39 And we had a long conversation yesterday morning and a little bit this morning. And I tell you, he is, he is an inspiration. I mean, it's like he never, you know, he's in very good shape. He is going to be done with all of this stuff and right back in action by November. I think his probation is up, but he's one of the happiest guys that I've ever I've ever spoken to.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And I was expecting to, you know, have to be a counselor to him a little bit. But, you know, prison in Wales is a little different than prison in the U.S., especially in the cities. And it was almost like a college experience for him. You know, he had all his medical stuff taken care of. And it was, you know, I wasn't expecting any of this.
Starting point is 01:37:44 But he is in, he's in very good shape. And he'll be, he'll be back with us very soon. That's good to hear. I'm glad he's out from under all of this. And I'm glad he's in good, good spirits. Yeah. Prison. I wasn't expect, wait, you know, let me tell you something else.
Starting point is 01:38:00 So he, um, You also wanted to thank, I don't know who's listening, but he wanted to thank everyone who's kept up with him. Like, obviously, it was me. Grandpa Dan was the guys from R.A. in Britain, Revolutionary Alternative, or national, whatever it is. I can't think the group. National alternative. Patriotic alternative. That's it.
Starting point is 01:38:22 PA in Britain. I don't know if anyone else was doing it. But if you guys helped him out, sent the money, contacted him at any point in the last few years, he wants to thank you person. that's awesome good to hear good to hear think he'll be on the on radio i'll be on again soon i i i don't want i don't want to say one way or the other okay understood all right start starting a new chapter today let's start off it's good that we started off with good news and um starting a new chapter today so we will jump right in all right chapter 12 during the war 1914 to 1916.
Starting point is 01:39:04 The First World War was undoubtedly the greatest of the follies of the 20th century. With no real motives or purposes, three major European powers, Germany, Russia, Austria, Hungary, clashed in a deadly battle which resulted in the first two not recovering for the duration of the century and the third disintegrating. As for the two allies of Russia, seemingly victors, they held out for another quarter of a century and then lost their power of domination forever. Henceforth, the whole of Europe ceased to fulfill its proud mission of guiding humanity, becoming an object of jealousy and incapable of keeping it,
Starting point is 01:39:41 keeping in its weakened hands its colonial possessions. I can't disagree with a syllable there. The only cause was Britain's fear of a Russo-German alliance, which would have knocked Great Britain out of out of the dominant position she had. She is, Britain is the ultimate cause of the war. The proximate cause of the war, of course, is Austria-Hungary.
Starting point is 01:40:17 By not so much the assassination doesn't make any sense. He was a pro-Slavic Franz Ferdinand was a pro-Slavic royal You know The Austrians Give up a list of conditions That no normal country in the world could have ever met
Starting point is 01:40:44 But Serbia, having suffered so badly during the Balkan wars Said yes to anyway But Austria-Hungary invaded regardless And it took three times They were defeated the first two times They should have given them a clue That they weren't going to do well in this war
Starting point is 01:41:03 And the third time with German assistance Finally, they were subdued And they dragged Russia in in Balkans That was the weak point that the British saw That they could sort of bring The Dramanics and the Slavs into contention And it worked unfortunately and it's
Starting point is 01:41:24 but other than that it had no purpose it had no motive Europe has never recovered from that and World War II just piled on you think of the dysgenic nature of the slaughter
Starting point is 01:41:38 entire classes of military academies in France and Turkey and Britain and Russia wiped out the best of the best it is a tragedy beyond belief I can't believe any of these boys they were boys
Starting point is 01:41:57 there were no women there ever could tolerate trench warfare for very long let alone the fact that poison gas was used you were guaranteed to be injured and the condition that Germany was in afterwards it just
Starting point is 01:42:14 it was absolutely mindless but it was in the interests of not just the British, but the left, and the revolutionary parties in general. None of the three emperors, and even less Nicholas II and his entourage, had realized in what war they were plunging. They could imagine neither its scale nor its violence. Apart from Stelipin and after him, Dernovo, the authorities had not understood the warning addressed to Russia between 1904 and 1906. Yeah, it's, you should note, I mean, given how science had progressed, I don't know how science ever really came out of there on the offensive, you know, the development of all of these weapons of war. I mean, you saw it with, you know, Franco-Prussian, but not at this scale. The machine gun, poison gas, the tank late in the war, the first air war, the slaughter. No one knew that this war was going to be the slaughter that it became and that the mindless slaughter. that it became.
Starting point is 01:43:22 And so, you know, certain people can be forgiven, but I think he's going to mention at some point here, Rasputin, who did say to Zarnikoulos, if you mobilized, in other words, if you enter into this war, you will not survive it. You won't come out of it. And like many of his predictions, it was absolutely correct. Let us consider this same war with the eyes of the Jews. And these three neighboring empires live three quarters of the Jews of the planet, and 90% of the Jews of Europe,
Starting point is 01:43:58 who were on top of that living in the area of future military operations of the province of Kovna, then Livonia, up to Austrian-Galicia, then Romania. And the war placed them before an interrogation as pressing as it was painful, could all, living on the front steps of these three empires, preserve their imperial patriotism until these conditions? For if, for the armies that were advancing, behind the front was the enemy. For the Jews established in these regions, behind the front lived neighbors and co-religionists. They could not want this war. Could their mindset shift brutally towards patriotism?
Starting point is 01:44:38 As for the ordinary Jews, those are the pale of settlement. they had even less reason to support the Russian army. We have seen that a quarter century before, the Jews of Western Russia had helped the Russians against Napoleon. But in 1914, it was quite different. In the name of what would they help the Russian army? On behalf of the Pala Settlement? On the contrary, did the war not give rise to the hope of a liberation?
Starting point is 01:45:04 With the arrival of the Austrians and the Germans, a new Pala settlement was not going to be established. the numerous clauses would not be maintained in the educational establishments. I said before that the left, of course, any time the left takes over, it's at the barrel of a gun. But they tend to take over during periods of warfare because there's tremendous trauma. People are very suggestible. There's tremendous chaos. And this was chaos like no other.
Starting point is 01:45:35 I mean, in the name of what would they help? Well, you could ask anybody that. in the name of what and it pisses me off to no end the people talk about nationalism well most of these were international empires empires that had many nations uh within them i also should note that this calls for war were mostly from parliaments monarchs you know i mean you know nicholas and and vilhelm were cousins monarchs were a lot more iffy it was the the parliaments that were screaming for for war um not realizing of course what was going to to happen. This is, this is how it benefited the, the revolutionary movement. Europe would
Starting point is 01:46:14 never be the same again. This is a total watershed in, in European history. And to use the word like this genic, it just, it just doesn't give, you know, sometimes it's extremely upsetting to read the casualties like at the psalm and places like that, or the best European manhood were slaughtered for no reason. It is precisely in the western part of the Palis settlement, that the Bund remained, retained influence, and Lenin tells us that its members are in their majority Germanophiles and rejoice at the defeat of Russia. We also learned that during the war of the Jewish Autonomist Movement, Vorwarts, adopted an openly pro-German position. Nowadays, a Jewish writer notes finally that if one reflects on the meaning
Starting point is 01:47:01 of the formula, God the Tsar, the fatherland, it is impossible to imagine a Jew, a loyal subject of the Empire, who could have taken this formula seriously. In other words, in the first degree. But in the capitals, things were different. Despite their positions of 1904 to 1905, the influential Jewish circles, like the Russian liberals, offered their support to the autocratic regime when the conflict first broke out. They proposed a pact. The patriotic fervor, which swept Russia, did not leave the Jews aside. It was the time when, seeing the Russian patriotism of the Jews, Pereshkovich, Perishovic, embraced the rabbis. As for the press, not Novi Vremia, not but the liberal press, half Jewish, according to Vida,
Starting point is 01:47:47 the same one who expressed and oriented the joltz of public opinion, and who in 1905 literally demanded the capitulation of power, it was from the first days of the war, moved by patriotic enthusiasm. Quote, over the head of Little Serbia, the sword is raised against Russia, the guarantor of the inalienable rights of millions of people to work and to life, end quote. At an extraordinary meeting of the Duma, quote, the representatives of the different nationalities and different parties were all on this historic day inhabited by the same thought, a single emotion made all the voices tremble,
Starting point is 01:48:21 that no one lay a hand on St. Russia. We are ready for all sacrifices to defend the honor and dignity of Russia, one and indivisible. God, the Tsar, the people, and victory is assured. we Jews defend our country because we are deeply attached to it end quote that's hard for me to to completely believe um i could see why liberal parties might have um went that way but it was all also in their interests now again there was no way in the supply problems the russians had were everywhere nothing was worse than the turks and the austrians they all had had severe supply problems.
Starting point is 01:49:04 That's the proof that no one expected this level of slaughter, the sheer mass of men that had to be mobilized. But as far as a dues were concerned, this war, which came out of nothing, suddenly made them attached to Russia, I don't believe. Even if behind this, there was a well-founded calculation, the expectation of a gesture of recognition in return, the attainment of equal. rights, even if it was only once the war was over, the government had to, by accepting this unexpected ally, decide to assume, or promise to assume, its share of obligations. And in fact,
Starting point is 01:49:45 did the achievement of equal rights necessarily have to come through the revolution? Moreover, the crushing of the insurrection of Stilipin had led to a decline in interest in politics in Russia, as well as Jewish circles, which at the very least meant that there was a move away from the revolution. As Chulgin declared, combating the Jews and Germans simultaneously was above the forces of power in Russia. It was necessary to conclude a pact with somebody. This new alliance with the Jews had to be formalized. It was necessary to produce at least a document containing promises, as had been done for the polls. But only Stilippin would have had the intelligence and the courage to do so. Without him, there was no one to understand the situation and take the appropriate
Starting point is 01:50:29 decisions. And from the spring of 1915, even more serious mistakes were made. The liberal circles, including the elite of the Jewish community, also had in view another consideration that they took for a certainty. From the year 1907, again, without urgent necessity, Nicholas I second had allowed himself to be dragged into a military alliance with England, thus putting around his neck the rope of the subsequent confrontation with Germany. And now, all the progressive circles in Russia were making the following analysis. The alliance with the democratic powers and the common victory with them would inevitably lead to a global democratization of Russia at the end of the war and consequently the definitive establishment of equal rights for
Starting point is 01:51:10 the Jews. There was, therefore, a sense for the Jews of Russia and not only for those who lived in Petersburg and Moscow to aspire to the victory of Russia in this war. There was a very deep ironing, though, in having Russia as part of the Entente. It made no political sense. Russia and Germany In fact, I'm going to talk about that Tonight, the Orthodox Nationalist and from a philosophical point of view are natural allies,
Starting point is 01:51:39 not just because they were related monarchs, but because they had similar systems, they had similar values, similar economies even. So, yeah, for, to allow Russia to be brought into there was a lot of French investment
Starting point is 01:52:00 in the Russian Empire at the time which is kind of it came not by way of England it came by way of France and of course they didn't realize what was going to happen at least these you know the people in the Zuma at the time had no idea what was going to happen elite circles may have had an idea
Starting point is 01:52:18 that yes okay oh wait wait Russia's in in alliance with England there may be hope after all because remember the The revolution of 1905, 1907, that had been crushed. The economy was growing tremendously up until that point. As I've said before, oil was discovered in the southern part of the country.
Starting point is 01:52:42 That's one of the things that set the British off. You have this massive country that's now industrializing that has a lot of assistance from both Germany and France, huge population, and now oil? And the Rockefellers went in, and they tried to buy it up. They certainly owned it afterwards. A lot of the equipment was Rothschild-based. And that has something to do with the alliance of Russia with the rest of the entente.
Starting point is 01:53:16 And that goes, you know, Turkey was a central power too. That kind of makes some sense. but it comes down to whoever was opposing Austria-Hungary as they tried to crush Serbia and again it's one of the most heroic stands of any army in the world that an exhausted army it took the Hungarian Austrians three times
Starting point is 01:53:41 three separate invasions to take the Serbs and bring them to heal but as far as the left was concerned They think that this would lead to something later. They didn't realize how good it was going to be for them. But these considerations were counterbalanced by the precipitated, massive expulsion of the Jews from the area of the front, ordered by the general staff at the time of the Great Retreat of 1915. That the latter had the power to do so was the result of ill-considered decisions taken at the beginning of the war.
Starting point is 01:54:14 In July 1914, in the heat of the action, and the agitation which reigned in the face of the imminence of conflict, the emperor had signed without reflection as a document of secondary importance, the provisional regulation of the field service which gave the general staff unlimited power over all the neighboring regions of the front, with a very wide territorial extension and this without any consultation with the Council of Ministers. At the time, no one had attached any importance to this document because all were convinced that the Supreme Command would always be assured by the emperor and that there would be, there could be no conflict with the cabinet.
Starting point is 01:54:53 But as early as July 1914, the emperor was persuaded not to assume the Supreme Command of the armies. As a wise man, the latter proposed the post to his favorite, the fine speaker, Sukomlenov, the minister of defense, who naturally declined this honor. It was the great prince Nikolaevich, who was a appointed, and the latter did not consider it possible to begin by upsetting the composition of the general staff, at the head of which was General Yanushkovich. But at the same time, the provisional regulations were not altered, so that the administration of a third of Russia was in the hands
Starting point is 01:55:35 of Yanushkiewicz, an insignificant man who was not even a military officer by profession. I think the Germans did something like that, too, as far as expelling the Jews from the front, And I think it had something to do with their, you know, usurious rates for supplies. The Jews were, unfortunately, had to be relied upon for a lot of this. But at the, you know, merchant level, at the local level, Jews were, you know, gouging the Russians. And, of course, no one knew where their loyalties lay anyway.
Starting point is 01:56:13 So I think it wasn't just the Russians that did that. I think the Germans did it too, but I may be mistaken. From the very beginning of the war, orders were given locally for the expulsion of the Jews from the army areas. In August 1914, the newspapers read, The Rights of the Jews, telegraphic instruction to all the governors of provinces and cities to stop the acts of mass individual expulsion of Jews. But from the beginning of 1915, as testified, the Dr. D. Pesmanic, a medic on the front during the war, suddenly throughout the area of the front and in all circles close to power spread the rumor that the Jews were doing espionage. During the summer of 19, Yanukovic, precisely him, tried to mask the retreat of the Russian armies, which at that time seemed appalling.
Starting point is 01:57:03 By ordering the mass deportation of the Jews from the front area, arbitrary deportation, without any examination of individual cases, it was so easy to blame all the defeat on the Jews. I don't think that was the case at all. That had been an ongoing policy. The only time the Russians really took the offense was when Nicholas took over the army. That's when the breakthrough occurred and Germany then found itself in a severely difficult situation. Then, of course, the entry of the U.S. at the end of the war changed everything. So I think he's being a little bit of, he's exaggerating just a bit there. These accusations may not have come about without the help of the German general staff,
Starting point is 01:57:54 which issued a proclamation calling on the Jews of Russia to rise up against their government. But opinion supported by many sources prevails that in this case it was Polish influence that was at work. As Leosberg wrote, just before the war, there had been a brutal explosion of anti-Semitism, Quote, a campaign against Jewish domination and industry and commerce, when war broke out, it was at its zenith, and the polls endeavored by all means to tarnish the image of the Jewish populations in the eyes of the Supreme Command by spreading all sorts of nonsense and legends about Jewish espionage. Immediately after the promises made by Nikolai Nikolaevich in the appeal to the polls of August 14th, the latter founded in Warsaw the Central Committee of the
Starting point is 01:58:40 bourgeoisie, which did not include a single Jew, whereas in Poland, the Jews represented 14% of the population. In September, there was a pogrom against the Jews in Slovak in Slovakie. Then, during the retreat of 1915, the agitation, which reigned in the midst of the army, facilitated the spread of the calumnies made up by the Poles. Pesmanic asserts that he is in a position to prove that the first rumors about the treason of the Jews were propagated by the Poles, a part of which was actively assisting the Germans. Seeking to avert suspicion, they hasten to spread the rumors that the Jews were engaged in espionage. In connection with this expulsion of Jews, several sources emphasized the fact that Yanukovych himself was a poll converted to orthodoxy.
Starting point is 01:59:29 I think we've already established that there was no obvious principle other than British self-interest, but no moral principle was involved at all. with this war. We've also established the Jews hated Russia and the Tsar, probably more than any other place, any other group of Guiam. So I guess that would be a very mild reason for them to want to fight the Russian war effort. But then they'd be on the same side as Vienna and Berlin and the Ottoman Empire, which, again, that was no, as far as the Jews are concerned, that was no better.
Starting point is 02:00:13 So they really didn't have much of a reason to support one side or the other. So they ended up just profiteering instead. He may have undergone the influence, but we consider these explanations insufficient and in no way justifying the attitude of the Russian general staff. Of course, the Jews in the front area could not break their ties with the neighboring villages, interrupt the Jewish posts and turn into enemies of their co-religionists. Moreover, in the eyes of the Jews and the palest settlement, the Germans appeared as a European nation of high culture,
Starting point is 02:00:44 much different from the Russians and the Poles. The black shadow of Auschwitz had not yet covered the earth and crossed the Jewish conscience. At that time, the Times correspondent, Stephen Graham, reported that as soon as the smoke of a German ship appeared on the horizon, the Jewish population of Libava forgot the Russian language and began to speak German. If they had to leave, the Jews preferred to go to the German side,
Starting point is 02:01:08 which is hilarious because they also did that at the end of World War II. When the Russians were advancing on camps, they left with the Germans. The hostility displayed by the Russian army and then their deportation could only provoke their bitterness and cause some of them to collaborate openly with the Germans. In addition to the accusations against the Jews living in these areas, the Jews were accused of cowardice and desertion. Father George Chavelsky, chaplain of the Russian army,
Starting point is 02:01:39 was attached to the staff, but often went to the front and was well informed of all that was going on there. He wrote in his memoirs. From the first days of the war, it was repeated with insistence that the Jewish soldiers were cowards and deserters
Starting point is 02:01:51 and local Jews spies and traitors. There were many examples of Jews who had gone to the enemy or fled, or Jewish civilians who had given information to the enemy, or in the course of their offenses, offensives had delivered to them Russian soldiers and officers who had lingered on the spot, etc., etc. The more time passed, the more our situation deteriorated, the more the hatred and the exasperation
Starting point is 02:02:15 against the Jews increased. Rumors were spreading from the front to the rear. They created a climate that was becoming dangerous for all Jews in Russia. Sergeant Lieutenant M. Lemke, a socialist who was then in staff, recorded in the newspaper he was secretly keeping reports from the Southwest Front. In December 1915, he noted in particular, there is a disturbing increase in the number of Jewish and Polish defectors, not only in the advanced positions, but also in the rear of the front.
Starting point is 02:02:43 In November 1915, one even heard during a meeting of the Progressive Block Bureau the following remarks noted by Milikov, which people gave proof of its absence of patriotism, the Jews. I don't know what they expected. You can't expect anything else. if the Jews had any loyalty it would probably be to London which of course Russia was aligned with
Starting point is 02:03:09 but the very fact that the Germans had already in the most short-sighted policy in the history of diplomacy started financing revolutionary movements and we've already mentioned the circular for the Jews of Russia to overthrow their government
Starting point is 02:03:31 or whatever it was, you know, there was some connections being made now with the Germans. So I know at the time there was tremendous divisions, you know, who was pro-British. And you could be pro-British without being pro-Russian, despite the fact that they're in the same coalition. So it was, it got very confusing at this point. But you can't expect patriotism out of them. and I'm willing to bet that the Jews of Germany were doing the same things there that the Jews of Russia were doing at the Pell of Settlement
Starting point is 02:04:08 but if they had one country that they were focusing on because of the Rothschildance it was Britain as their as our ally in Germany and Austria-Hungary the Jews could occupy high-level positions in the administration without having to abjure their religion and this was also true in the army. While in Russia, a Jew could not become an officer if he did not convert to orthodoxy,
Starting point is 02:04:34 and Jews with higher levels of education were most often completing their military service as simple soldiers. One could understand that they did not rush in to serve in such an army. In spite of this, Jews were decorated with the cross of St. George. Captain G.S. Dumbadza recalled a Jew, a law student, who received this declaration four times, but refused to enter the school of officers in order not to have to convert, which would have caused his father to die of grief. Later, he was executed by the Bolsheviks. I'm not sure that that's enough to push the Jews towards the German side.
Starting point is 02:05:15 The Israeli army, the IDF operates that way. Arabs can't serve as soldiers or sailors. and for the same reason that Russia kept them out of the officer schools. They knew way too much about how the Jews were functioning. But that's kind of a very, kind of a minor issue that I don't think was sufficient to push the Jews one way or the other. I think between Germany and Russia, the Jews were working together, of course, for revolution and selling out the governments that they lived under at the same time
Starting point is 02:05:55 I mean, after all, the more goreum that would kill, the better just like the war today in Ukraine. But, you know, the Russians were the last ones to hold out as to, you know, Jews in the army. It was out of the question as high-level officers. But we even know that there were a few high-level officers in Hitler's army later. but
Starting point is 02:06:22 there may have been false conversions I can't speak to that one way or the other but Russia was the last one to hold out and of course once the Ottoman Empire fell the new Turkish government was very Masonic and Judaic
Starting point is 02:06:38 but but that's a whole separate matter so yeah later he was executed by the Bullsviks yeah I understand your after there, yeah. That's just the irony. But the, I was going to say, yeah, there are Arabs that serve in the IDF currently, and the Hasbores love to post pictures of them, but they don't tell you that they're basically
Starting point is 02:07:02 servants. They're not handing them right. They're not handing them Ghaliles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, yeah, they're service workers. For all that, it was, it would be unreliable and implausible to conclude that all these accusations were mere fabrications. Chevelski writes,
Starting point is 02:07:22 The question is too vast and complex, but I cannot help saying that at that same time, there was no lack of motives for accusing the Jews. In times of peace, it was tolerated that they be assigned to civilian tasks. During the war, the Jews filled the combat units. During the offensives,
Starting point is 02:07:38 they were often in the rear when the army retreated. When the army retreated, they were at the front. More than once, they spread panic in their units. It cannot be denied that the cases of espionage of going over to the enemy were not rare. We couldn't avoid finding suspicious that the Jews were also perfectly informed of what was happening on the front. The quote, Jewish telephone sometimes worked better and faster than all the countryside's telephones. It was not uncommon for
Starting point is 02:08:07 the news of the front to be known in the small hamlet of Baranovichy situated near the general staff even before they reached a Supreme Commander and his general staff. Lemke points out the Jewish origins of Shevelski himself. A rabbi from Moscow went to the staff to try to persuade Shevelski that the Jews are like the others. There are some courageous, there are some cowards, there are those who are loyal to their country, there are also the bastards, the traitors, and he cited examples taken from other wars. Quote, although it was very painful for me, I had to tell them everything I knew about the conduct of Jews during this war.
Starting point is 02:08:48 we were not able to reach an agreement. It's very hard to wrap my brain around Jews fighting for anyone other than their own state or a country allied with their own state. So it would make some sense that there would be, you know, Jewish officers in the British Army on high levels, the diplomacy and all that. But Germany, Russia, Austria, Hungary,
Starting point is 02:09:16 that's, you know, I'm not sure. for what they're fighting for, exactly. Their purpose could only be one of espionage or to damage their host countries. Here is yet the testimony of a contemporary. Abraham Zisman, an engineer, then assigned to the evacuation commission, recalled half a century later, quote, to my great shame, I must say that the Jews who were near the front behave very despicably, giving the German army all the help they could. There were also charges of strictly economic of strictly economic nature against the Jews who supplied the Russian army. Lemke thus copied the order of the general staff signed by the emperor on the very day of his
Starting point is 02:09:58 taking office as supreme commander. This order had therefore been prepared by Yanashkevich. Jewish suppliers abused the orders for bandages, horses bred given to them by the army. They received from the military authorities documents certifying that they had been entrusted with the task of making purchases for needs of the army. but without any indication of quantity or place. Then, the Jews have certified copies of these documents made and distributed to their accomplices, thus acquiring the possibility of making purchases all over the empire.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Quote, thanks to the solidarity between them and their considerable financial resources, they control vast areas where are bought mainly horses and bread, which artificially raise prices and makes more difficult the work of the officials responsible of supplies. Yeah, I mentioned that already. even right down to your typical, you know, merchant selling bread at, you know, which is one of the reasons that so many of them were removed. Clearly, that wasn't enforced all the time. But, yeah, this was something, you know, extremely important that, and I, the Germans, you know,
Starting point is 02:11:07 I guess learn their lesson here. But I'm, I also know, I mean, we know that the early NS movement was talking about the Jews doing this exact same thing. with the the german army the only time it shifted was when it became clear when the jews telephone which was very effective uh when it became clear that the germans were supporting uh the leninus um and those aligned with them trotsky was a different story uh they you know they came together later on but uh for no other reason than to get to get rid of remove russia from the war which really was, it's one of the reasons that the communists, at least in some circles in the West, were seen as just German agents.
Starting point is 02:11:56 They certainly weren't. They just received assistance from them. And the assistance really came from British and American banks via institutions in Germany. So you can't even say that it was directly from the Germans. So as the war dragged on, there was a bit of a tilt, maybe even a great tilt. Hilt towards Germany once it became clear that they were assisting the revolutionaries. But all these facts cannot justify the conduct of Yanashkevich and the general staff. Without making an effort to separate the good wheat from the chaff, the Russian High Command launched an operation, as massive as it was inept for the expulsion of the Jews.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Particularly striking was the attitude toward the Jews of Galicia who lived in the Austro-Hungarian territory. From the beginning of the First World War, tens of thousands of Jews fled from Galicia to Hungary, Bohemia, and Vienna. Those who remained, suffered greatly during the period of the Russian occupation of this region. Bullying, beatings, and even pogroms, frequently organized by the Cossack units, became the daily lot of the Jews of Galicia. This is what Father Chavezky writes. In Galicia, hatred toward the Jews was still fueled by the vexations inflicted under the Austrian dominance of the Russian populations, in fact, Ukrainian and Ruthenian, by the powerful Jews.
Starting point is 02:13:19 In other words, these same populations were now participating in Cossack arbitrariness. In the province of Kovno, all the Jews were deported without exception, the sick, the wounded soldiers, the families of the soldiers who were at the front. Hostages were required under the pretext of preventing acts of espionage, and the facts of this kind became commonplace. I think what he's trying to say is that this was a self-fulfilling prophecy. If that's true, if there was some bullying, whatever it is, there were lots of people who were struggling like that during the war.
Starting point is 02:13:54 If the Jews perceived themselves to be unfairly treated by the Cossacks, especially, that's their whole purpose for existence, yeah, then they will then oppose the Russian Empire. I think that's what Solzhenitsyn is getting at here. that even if the Jews were behaving badly, removing them made things much worse. This deportation of the Jews appears in a stronger light than in 1915, contrary to what would happen in 1941. There was no a mass evacuation of urban populations. The army was withdrawing. The civilian population remained there. Nobody was driven out, but the Jews and they alone were
Starting point is 02:14:37 driven out, all without exception and in the shortest possible time, not to mention the moral wound that this represented for each one. This brought about the ruin, the loss of one's house, one's property. Was it not, in another form, always the same pogrom of great magnitude, but this time provoked by the authorities and not by the populace? How can we not understand the Jewish misfortune? To this, we must add that Yaniskevich, like the high-ranking officers who were under his command, acted without any logical reflection in disorder, precipitation, incoherence, which could only add to the confusion. There exists no chronicle nor account of all these military decisions, only echoes scattered
Starting point is 02:15:21 in the press of the time, and also in the archives of the Russian Revolution by I.V. Heson, a series of documents collected at random without follow-up, and then as Lempka copies of documents made by individuals. This scattered data, nevertheless, allows us to form an opinion on what happened. Some of these provisions foresee expelling Jews from the area of military operations in the direction of the enemy, which would mean in the direction of the Austrians across the front line, to send back to Galicia the Jews originating from there. Other directives foresee deporting them to the rear of the front, sometimes at a short distance, sometimes on the left bank of the Denepper, sometimes even beyond the Volga.
Starting point is 02:16:05 Sometimes it is the cleansing, it is cleansing the Jews of a zone of five verses from the front. Sometimes we speak of a zone of 50-vers. The evacuation timeframes are sometimes five days with authorization to take away one's property, sometimes 24 hours, probably without this authorization. As for the resistors, they will be taken under escort. Or even, no evacuation, but in the events of retreat, treat take hostages among the significant Jews, especially the rabbis, in case Jews denounce either Russians or Poles, who are well disposed in regard to Russia.
Starting point is 02:16:42 In the event of execution of these by Germans carry out the execution of the hostages, but how can we know verified that there were executions in German-occupied territory? It was truly an incredible system. Other instruction, we do not take hostages. We just designate them among the Jewish population inhabiting our territory. territories. They will bear responsibility for espionage in favor of the enemy committed by other Jews. Or even, avoid at all costs that the Jews be aware of the location of the trenches dug in the rear of the front so that they cannot communicate it to the Austrians through their co-religionists. It was known that
Starting point is 02:17:17 Romanian Jews could easily cross the border, or even, on the contrary, obliged precisely civilian Jews to dig the trenches, or even order given by the commander of the military region of Kazan, General Sandetsky, known for his despotic behavior, assemble all the Jewish soldiers in marching battalions and send them to the front, or conversely, discontent provoked by the presence of Jews in the combat units, their military ineptitude. I don't think it's ineptitude. I just think it was a total lack of interest. We know what kind of soldiers, Jews can be.
Starting point is 02:17:57 They're Khazars, remember. it was just that they weren't going to fight for for the Russians especially under under these conditions it looks you know but without a paper trail it becomes very difficult to decide who did what and when the polls were involved the Germans were involved and the Russians were involved and because of the size of the front he's already seen here crossing the border was was pretty easy um but you know assemble all the Jewish soldiers marching battalion sent him to the front well what good would do? How is, how is that, how is that, how is that, how is that, how is that going to help the Russians at all? Um, so what I think what Solton Isson is getting at here is that, that these were
Starting point is 02:18:41 self-defeating policies, understandable, but self-defeating. There is a feeling that in their campaign against the Jews, Yaneshkovich and the general staff were losing their minds. What exactly did they want? During these particular difficult weeks of infighting when the Russian troops retreated, exhausted and short of ammunition, a flyer containing illistic questions was sent to the heads of units and instructed them to assemble information on the moral, military, physical qualities of Jewish soldiers, as well as their relations with local Jewish populations. And the possibility was considered of completely excluding Jews from the army after the war. We also do not know the exact number of displaced
Starting point is 02:19:24 persons. In the book of the Jewish-Russian world, we read that, in April 1915, 40,000 Jews were exposed from the province of Corland, and in May, 120,000 of them were expelled from Kofno. In another place, the same book gives an overall figure for the whole period amounting to 250,000, including Jewish refugees, which means that the deportees would hardly have accounted for more than half of this digit. After the revolution, the newspaper Nouveauvremia published information according to which the evacuation of all the inhabitants of Galicia dispersed on the territory of Russia 25,000 persons, including nearly 1,000 Jews. These are numbers that, for the moment, are too weak to be probable.
Starting point is 02:20:10 Yeah, again, there is no paper trail here. And remember, they weren't expelled. They were simply removed a distance from the front. That was the concern. but end of 1915, beginning of 1916, that changed, you know, Jews were clearly looking to Germany because they were the conduit of money to the revolutionaries. On the 10th and 11th of May, 1915, the order was issued to put an end to the deportations and these ceased. Jabotinsky drew the conclusion of the expulsion of the Jews from the zone of the front in 1915
Starting point is 02:20:46 by speaking of a catastrophe probably unprecedented since the reign of Ferd-Gers, and Isabella in Spain in the 15th century. Shout out to my people. But is there not also something of a move of history, in fact, that this massive deportation itself and the indignant reactions it provoked would make a concrete contribution to the much-desired suppression
Starting point is 02:21:14 of the palest settlement? Leonid Andreev had rightly observed this famous barbarity of which we are accused of rests entirely and exclusively on our Jewish question and its bloody outbursts. Again, while this policy is understandable, it was also very short-sighted. Especially when they realized that the Germans, well, maybe they didn't realize that the Germans were approaching the Jewish population somehow as allies. and for no other reason, of course, and to get Russia out of the war, not realizing what that was going to create later on. The Germans were going to rue for the rest of its existence.
Starting point is 02:22:03 But it wasn't barbarous. Lots of people were removed from the front. It wasn't like they were sent to Siberia. It was just away from where the fighting was. These deportations of Jews were resonant on a planetary scale. From Petersburg during the war, Jews defending human rights transmitted information. information about the situations of their co-religionist to Europe. Among them, Alexander Isayevich Brow distinguished himself by his tireless activity.
Starting point is 02:22:31 A.G., wow, Shaipinov relates that Gorky had sent him documents on the persecution of the Jews in Russia. He brought them to the United States. All this information spread widely and rapidly in Europe and America, raising a powerful wave of indignation. This is also part of the reason why the Western powers, and specifically the U.S. and the British, didn't send a penny or a bullet to the white armies in the Civil War. That's, this is part of the reason why. This was part of the propaganda reason why. And so you had, you had enemies on all fronts as far as Russia was concerned. you had the Germans trying to trying to
Starting point is 02:23:24 knock them out of the war through revolution and the British and the Americans denouncing, they're supposed to be allies, denouncing their policies here and so when the civil war occurred there was no way the white armies were sometimes they were perceived
Starting point is 02:23:42 as royalists, sometimes they weren't you did have royalist armies in the civil war but this is why there was no way they were going away system whatsoever. They saw at least Trotsky's forces as the wave of the future
Starting point is 02:23:57 and once Trotsky and Lennon started working together I mean there was the same movement of course but they had two different tracks one was a train other one was a ship then the Reds became as a British said there was a prime minister
Starting point is 02:24:16 at the time who said Trotsky is the only statesman in Russia. I'm looking at this and I'm thinking that we should stop right here because we're going to start talking about American involvement in this and get into Jacob Schiff and this is probably a good time to stop. Yeah. Yeah, I may have something to say about that. I'm not sure. I'm assuming so. All right.
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Starting point is 02:25:09 Thank you. All right, ma'am. I want to welcome everyone back to part 54 of our read-in. of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenysohn. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I don't know why people love summer so much. People talk about it like it's this sacred season. And the bugs, the huge air conditioning bills,
Starting point is 02:25:36 the ridiculous oppressive heat, you can't do anything without air conditioning. I don't, you know, it's like people who think that Jimmy Hendrix was the greatest guitar player of all time. They believe that because they're told that. And they grew up believing that. And if you say anything, they're going to flip out. I'll never understand.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Or people who think the Beatles were great. Or God knows, Bob Dylan or any of these guys, any of these people were told or classic geniuses. I don't get it. I'm sick of summer already. Well, yeah, I'm definitely a fall spring. person unfortunately fall and spring in the south lasts about two weeks each so um you know you're dealing with uh summer mostly and then uh you'll get a a winter a little winter break
Starting point is 02:26:33 but then two or three weeks of just wonderful weather in the spring and in the fall so um but you know you make up for it by being around people who um you know share if they don't they don't really share your values down to the you know down to the minutia level but they definitely just want to be left alone and we'll leave you alone and if they need help they'll ask yeah i mean i'm from new jersey you know a southern sympathizer i mean ideologically speaking from new jersey which is weird as it is but you know culturally and comitologically, I could never handle it down there. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 02:27:22 All right. Let's pick up where we left off last time. Okay. Sort of a new, sort of a new, like a little break here and switching topic just to hair. And if the best among the representatives of the Jewish community and the Jewish intelligents, he have feared that the victory of Germany would only reinforce anti-Semitism. And for that reason alone, there could be no question of sympathies toward the
Starting point is 02:27:47 Germans or hopes for their victory. A Russian military intelligence officer in Denmark reported in December 1915 that the success of an anti-Russian propaganda is also facilitated by Jews who openly declare that they do not wish to victory of Russia and its consequence. The autonomy promised to Poland, for they know that the latter would take energetic measures with a view to the expulsion of Jews from within their borders. In other words, it was Polish anti-Semitism that was to be feared, not German anti-Semitism. The fate which awaited the Jews in a Poland, which had become independent, would perhaps be even worse than that which they underwent in Russia. If I were a Jew at the time, I could make an argument, you know, which one are you going to root for?
Starting point is 02:28:36 I think there'd be no doubt, though, overall, Russia was the worst. I mean, at least Germany was Protestant. You know, they have that to go on, and that's easier to manipulate than Orthodox or Catholic areas, even though there was a Catholic South, despite the purges and everything, and culture come. Poland, of course, knew the Jews firsthand. This is, you know, this is the area where the Jews were, Ashkenazi Jews, were located in very large. numbers. This wasn't prejudice. This was stuff they all had a direct experience with it. I think, but I still think that Russia would be at the bottom of their, or that I should say the
Starting point is 02:29:22 top of their hate list, just for orthodoxy if nothing else. And the polls, you know, at one time treated them very well, but at this point, you know, they were exposed. They were exposed all over Europe. And so I could make an argument for all three as being the worst option. So I bet you had factions among Jews, which one do we want to win? But I think the money was on Germany, at least for a while. The British and French governments were somewhat embarrassed to openly condemn the attitude of their ally. But at that time, the United States was increasingly,
Starting point is 02:30:08 engaged in the international arena. And in the still neutral America of 1915, sympathies were divided. Some of the Jews who came from Germany were sympathetic to the latter, even though they did not manifest it in an active manner. Their dispositions were maintained by the Jews from Russia and Galicia, who, as a socialist Ziv, testified, wished for it could no longer be otherwise, the defeat of Russia, and even more so by the professional revolutionists, Russian, revolutionists, Russian, Jews who had settled in the United States.
Starting point is 02:30:40 So this was added the anti-Russian tendencies in the American public. Very recently, in 1911, the dramatic breakup of an 80-year-old U.S. Russian economic agreement took place. The Americans regarded the official Russia as a country that was corrupt, reactionary, and ignorance. You know, there wasn't a whole lot of trade to begin with. You know, Russia really didn't need anyone else. I said it before, but really the only, maybe the only two countries that could be totally autarkic
Starting point is 02:31:11 would be the U.S. and Russia or the Russian Empire. And clearly we see that nothing has changed. People didn't know anything about Russia. They believed the nonsense coming out of the press about the endless pogroms and all this garbage that we've exposed here on this program and that Solzhenitsyn has exposed as absolute lies, and the violence of the English-speaking press against the Russians, it just was so bizarre that Russia was a member of the allies. It didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 02:31:52 I think the French were slightly more sympathetic than the Anglo-American bloc was, but it was something so unnatural for Russia and Germany to be fighting. especially since at different times, the Russian Empire assisted greatly in the unification of Germany. And in 1848, 1849, put the young friends Joseph back into power after the Hungarian separatists had dethroned him. There would be no Austrian-Hungarian empire if Russia didn't intervene. Not that it helped them, because they would immediately turn around and attack Russia at any point. So, but, but that's, you know, again, that's a, that's a separate matter. Germany, you know, seemed to be a very, they had far more in common than the, than Russia ever had with the Anglo-American bloc.
Starting point is 02:32:53 It still doesn't make sense to me. Of course, World War I doesn't make sense to me. This quickly translated into tangible effects. As early as August 1915, we read in the reports of Milikov, that Milikov was holding meetings of the progressive bloc. The Americans pose as a condition of aid to Russia, the possibility for American Jews to have free access to Russian territory. Always the same source of conflict as in 1911 with Teddy Roosevelt.
Starting point is 02:33:22 And when a Russian parliamentary delegation went to London and Paris in early 2016 to apply for financial aid, it was faced to a categorical refusal. The episode is told in detail by Shengaria, in the report he presented on June 20th, 1916 to the Military and Maritime Commission of the Duma after the return of the delegation. In England, Lord Rothschild replied to this request, quote, You are affecting our credit in the United States.
Starting point is 02:33:51 In France, Baron Rothschild declared, quote, In America, the Jews are very numerous and active. They exert a great influence in such a manner that the American public is very hostile to you. Then Rothschild expressed himself even more brutally, and Shengariev demanded that his words not be included in the record. This financial pressure from the Americans, the rapporteur, concludes, is a continuation of a policy that has led them to break our trade agreement in 2011, but of course, to that was added the massive deportation to Jews undertaken in the meantime.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Jacob Schiff, who had spoken so harshly of Russia in 1905, now declared to a French parliamentarian sent to America, we will give credit to England and France when we have the assurance that Russia will do something for the Jews. The money you borrow from us goes to Russia, and we do not want that. Milikov evoked the protests of the Duma Tribune of millions and millions of American Jews who have met a very wide echo in American opinion. I have in my hands many American newspapers that prove it. Meetings ending with scenes of hysteria, crying jags at the evocation of the situation of the Jews in Russia. I have a copy of the provision made by President Wilson establishing a Jewish day throughout
Starting point is 02:35:10 the United States to collect aid for the victims. And when we ask for money to American bankers, they reply, pardon, how is that? We agree to lend money to England and France, but on condition that Russia does not see the color of it, the famous banker Jacob Schiff, who rules the financial world in New York, categorically refuses any idea of a loan to Russia. This is, first of all, this demonstrates that Jews control credit, at least at that level, all over the globe at the time. If you remember a few episodes ago, Vita tried to approach the Rothschild's fur alone, because you really didn't have any other options, all short term, of course. I mean, Russia was a creditor nation, and, of course, was refused.
Starting point is 02:35:58 he had to figure out a way to finagulate, which is why he tended to be phylo-Semitic, if for no other reason than to permit credit, because wars are expensive. Even a creditor nation is, you know, it's extremely expensive, especially navies, are very expensive. But the other thing it shows is that there was no assistance ever to the white armies during the civil war, none,
Starting point is 02:36:32 because anyone who was capable of giving financial assistance already said the Jews are the only thing that matters. And I had forgotten completely about a Jewish day. I don't know if that was just a one-time thing or what. But even back then, President Wilson, it was so dominated and their financial tentacles were so extraordinary that they established a Jewish day to collect aid as if, you know, Jews were poor and had no money. And again, it just goes to show that Russia just stuck out like a sore thumb in the allies.
Starting point is 02:37:10 They shouldn't have been there. And it's something that the British created to make Germany and Russia fight each other using Austria-Hungary and, excuse me, in the Balkans, which was again diabolically brilliant and I guess the closest we're going to get to the true cause of the war in general but this paragraph alone exactly shows the absolute financial power of the Jews and there's no way around it you know if you want to finance a war you had to go to them
Starting point is 02:37:43 and therefore you had to do things that made them happy had nothing to do with profit there were already millionaires you know back then was a big deal you know, Russia certainly would repay and repay early. The propaganda created all this, the nonsense, the lies coming out of the Jewish and the Gentile press created this hysteria. We see this hysteria and crying and everything else. Nothing changes.
Starting point is 02:38:11 It's the same story over and over again. And it has to be looked at skeptically no matter who you are. The Encyclopedia of Judaica written in English, English, confirms that Schiff, using his influence to prevent other financial institutions lending to Russia, pursued this policy throughout the First World War and put pressure on other banks to do the same. For all these upheavals provoked by the deportations, both in Russia and abroad, it was the Council of Ministers who had to pay for the broken pots, even though the staff did not consult it and gave no attention to its protests. I have already quoted a few snippets
Starting point is 02:38:46 of the passionate debates that were agitating the cabinet on this subject. Here are a few others. Kruvishin was in favor of temporarily granting the Jews the right to settle in all the cities of Russia. Quote, this favor granted to the Jews will be useful not only from a political point of view, but also from an economic point of view. Up to now, our policy in this field made one think of this sleeping miser on his gold, which does not benefit from it and does not allow others to do so, end quote. But Ruklov replied, this proposal constitutes a fundamental and irreversible modification of legislation which has been introduced throughout history with the aim of protecting the Russian heritage from the control of the Jews and the Russian people of the deleterious
Starting point is 02:39:30 effects of the neighboring of the Jews. You specify that this favor will be granted only for the duration of the war, but we must not be in denial. After the war, not one government will be found to send back the Jews to the palest settlement. The Russians are dying in the trenches and meanwhile while the Jews will settle in the heart of Russia, benefit from the misfortunes endured by the people of General Ruin? What will be the reaction of the army and the Russian people? And again, during the following meeting, quote, the Russian population endures unimaginable hardships and suffering,
Starting point is 02:40:03 both on the front and the interior of the company, while Jewish bankers buy from their co-religionists, the right to use Russia's misfortunes to exploit tomorrow this exanguinated people. Yeah, and it goes to show that there were still plenty, of healthy mainstream voices in Russia at the time. You still have it today. I think, remember, this is about the deportations of Jews from frontline areas. They were deported because they clearly supported the Germans and were profiteering,
Starting point is 02:40:39 gouging for various supplies that the army needed. They clearly were an enemy people. They always have been an enemy people. and they had every rational reason to do it. But even if they didn't have that policy, that was just a pretext. They were going to do the exact same thing, the bankers would.
Starting point is 02:40:59 They'd have the same attitude because this goes back, you know, 40 years, Russia, the ignorant anti-Semites creating these pogroms from the government on down for no good reason because they're jealous. And, yeah, there weren't that many Jews in, in the military and we've already discussed that
Starting point is 02:41:21 you know the ones that were there were awful because it wasn't their country they're not going to fight for a country that isn't theirs or doesn't benefit them some way and this last line Russian population indoors magical hardships and World War I was
Starting point is 02:41:36 horrible and the Jewish bankers were reaping the benefits it would take massive press control to keep that information from getting out. This is why when the Bolsheviks took over, one of the first pieces of legislation was banning any criticism of the Jews and the death penalty being the highest penalty for that. But the ministers acknowledged that there was no other way at. The measure was to be applied
Starting point is 02:42:06 with exceptional speed in order to meet the financial needs of the war. All of them, with the exception of Ruklov, signed their name at the bottom of the bulletin, authorizing the Jews to settle freely, possibility of acquiring real estate throughout the empire, with the exception of the capitals, agricultural areas, provinces inhabited by the Cossacks, and the Yalta region. In the autumn of 1915 was also repealed the system of the annual passport, which had hitherto been compulsory for the Jews who were now entitled to a permanent passport. These measures were followed by a partial lifting of the numerous closest in educational establishments and the authorization to occupy the functions of litigator within the limits of the representation quotas.
Starting point is 02:42:49 The opposition that these decisions met in the public opinion was broken under the pressure of the war. Well, we've already demonstrated over the last few weeks that Jews were everywhere. They went wherever they wanted. There was no enforcement of any of this stuff. The numerous clauses may be, you know, the elite universities and stuff. Cossack areas would be a very dangerous move on the Jews part. There's always going to be exceptions.
Starting point is 02:43:17 But Jews really didn't have the restrictions on locality like Jews today will tell you. Historians today will tell you. Someone with that much money and that much power at home and abroad, they could live wherever they want to help they want. And of course, people notice these things. People absolutely notice these things. And Russia was still, I mean, it was. It was cracking under the pressures of a war like that with these massive casualties, but was still a healthy country when it came to essentially a cancer within their own society.
Starting point is 02:44:03 Thus, after a century and a quarter of existence, to pale a settlement, Jews failed and disappeared forever. And to add insult to injury, as Leosberg notes, This measure so important in its content, amounting to the abolition of the pale of settlement, this measure for which had fought in vain for decades of Russian Jews and the liberal circles of Russia went unnoticed because of the magnitude assumed by the war. Streams of refugees and immigrants were then overwhelming Russia. The Refugee Committee set up by the government also provided displaced Jews with funds to help settlements. until the February Revolution, the Council on Refugees continued its work and allocated considerable sums to the various national committees, including the Jewish Committee.
Starting point is 02:44:49 It goes without saying they were added to this funds, that were added to this funds, it goes without saying that were added to this, the funds contributed by many Jewish organizations that had embarked on this task with energy and efficiency. Among them was the Union of Jewish Craftsmen, created in 1880, well established and already extending its action beyond the Pala settlement. The UJC had developed a cooperation with the World Relief Committee and the Joint Committee for the distribution of funds for aid to war-affected Jews. All of them provided massive aid to the Jewish populations of Russia. The joint had rescued hundreds of thousands of Jews in Russia and Austria-Hungary. In Poland, the UJC helped Jewish candidates for emigration or U. settled as farmers. Because during the war, Jews who lived in small villages had been driven, not without coercion by the German occupier to the work of the land.
Starting point is 02:45:49 Yeah. There was also the Jewish prophylactic society founded in 1912. It had given itself permission not only to direct medical aid to the Jews, but also the creation of sanatoriums, dispensaries, the development of sanitary hygiene in general, the prevention of diseases, the struggle against the physical deterioration of Jewish populations. Now where in Russia there existed yet organizations of this kind. Now in 1915, these detachments were organized in the Jewish emigrants all along the route and at their place of destination, supply centers, flying medical teams, countryside hospitals, shelters, and pediatric consultations.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Also in 1915 appeared the Jewish Association. for the assistance of war victims, benefiting of support from the Committee for Refugees and the so generously endowed by the State Zemgore Association of the Union of Zemstvos and the Union of Cities. As well as credit for America, the JAAWV set up a vast network of missionaries to help the Jews during their journey
Starting point is 02:46:54 and their new place of residence with rolling kitchens, canteens, clothing distribution points, employment agencies, vocational, training centers, child care establishments, schools, what an admirable organization. Let us remember that approximately 250,000 refugees and displaced persons were taken care of. According to official figures, the number of these was already reaching 215,000 in August 1916. And there was also the political bureau near the Jewish deputies of the Fourth Duma, which resulted from an agreement between the Jewish popular group, the Jewish People's Party, the Jewish Democratic group, and the Zionists during the war it deployed. considerable activity. In spite of all the difficulties, the war gave a strong impulse to the spirit
Starting point is 02:47:38 of initiative of the Jews whip their will to take charge. During these years, the considerable forces hidden hitherto in the depths of the Jewish consciousness matured and revealed to the open, immense reserves of initiative in their most varied fields of political and social action. In addition to the resources allocated by the Mutual Aid Society's JAWV benefited from the millions paid to by the government. At no time did the Special Conference of Refugees reject our suggestion on the amount of aid. 25 million in a year and a half,
Starting point is 02:48:12 which is infinitely more than what the Jews have collected. The government paid here the wrongs of the general staff. As for the sums coming from the West, the committee could retain them for future use. You know, there's absolutely nothing that can happen that the Jews will not make completely about themselves. I'm almost certain that of all of the groups
Starting point is 02:48:37 in Europe and Russia at the time it's probably the Jews that suffered the least and and the only Russia was was assisting them and I hope that they were assisting everybody not just them but it became a liberal
Starting point is 02:48:59 celebrity cause to get them resettled in times of war because they suffered so badly they suffered so badly at the hands of the evil Russians they raised a huge amount of money and God knows how much of it was actually spent on any kind of assistance
Starting point is 02:49:23 chances are they end up lending that out at interest but it made me laugh when he came across where was it this thing settling them on the land I guess the Germans didn't get the memo at this point that they're not going to
Starting point is 02:49:43 they're not going to do that no matter what you do you can't force someone as it says coercion here to work the land that has no desire to do it but but the only reason the only reason that this was done
Starting point is 02:50:02 one of the reason that this was done was to satisfy the British was to satisfy the Rothschild family was to satisfy the major banks both in in Britain and the U.S. And it shows you the tremendous amount of power that they had and they had this power without any
Starting point is 02:50:25 corresponding responsibility. But that's, you know, Judaism in a nutshell. I can't hear you. It is thus that with all these movements of the Jewish population, refugees, displaced persons, but also a good number of volunteers, the war significantly altered the distribution of Jews in Russia. Important settlements were established in towns far from the front, mainly Nizny Novgorod, a bunch of towns. But also in the capitals. But also in the capitals.
Starting point is 02:50:59 Although the abolition of the pale of settlement did not concern St. Petersburg and Moscow, these two cities were now practically open. Often, they would go there to join relatives or protectors who had settled there long ago. In the course of memoirs left by contemporaries, one discovers, for example, a dentist of Petersburg named Flaka. Ten-room apartment, footmen, servant, cook, well-off Jews were not uncommon, and in the middle of the war, while there was a shortage of housing in Petrograd, they opened up opportunities for Jews from elsewhere. Many of them changed your place of residence during those years, families, groups of families that left no trace of history except sometimes in family chronicles of a private
Starting point is 02:51:39 nature, such as those of the parents of David Aspel. Quote, Aunt Ida left the coldness and solemnness of Shernigov at the beginning of the First World War to come and settle in Moscow. The new arrivals were often of a very modest condition, but some of them came to influential positions such as Posnansky, a clerk in the Petrograd Military Censorship Commission, who had the upper hand over all secret affairs. Remember, we talked about many episodes ago about the Jews not responding to the census. Russians were still very iffy about how many Jews lived in the country and who they were and what they did.
Starting point is 02:52:23 Even their occupations, you know, they would claim to be. craftsmen as I laughed at the association for Jewish craftsmen above because most of the time that's not what they were. It was a way to collect the subsidy. It was nice to live in an creditor nation like the Russian Empire that was feeding a good chunk of the world and industrializing very rapidly at this point because they had the money around. You know, Russia is in the same position today. Russia is still a creditor nation. But it's interesting to note that I wrote a paper on this quite a while ago that the credit rating agencies, you know, pores, S&P, you know, always had Russia at like a B rating, despite
Starting point is 02:53:14 the fact that they had no death. The debt that they had, they paid off early. And it's only because all of that stuff was politicized, just exactly like we're talking about here. All of this is connected to the need for credit. There was really nowhere else to go. And that's a central issue. It was not like it was even 50 years ago where you could finance a war. World War I, the massive, the mobilization, the weaponry, the training, just a huge numbers of men. The airplanes, later the tanks. were extremely expensive. It was nothing like the Napoleonic era.
Starting point is 02:54:00 So there was no way you could finance any of this without going to the Jews. And it looks like there were really, there were no other options. Meanwhile, the general staff mechanically poured out its torrents of directives, sometimes respected, sometimes neglected, to exclude Jews under the banner of all activities outside armed service, secretary, Baker, nurse, telephonist, and telegram. telegrapher, telegrapher. Thus, in order to prevent the anti-government propaganda is supposed to be carried out by Jewish doctors and nurses, they should be assigned not to hospitals or country infirmaries, but to places not conducive to propaganda activities, such as, for example, the advanced positions, the transport of the wounded on the battlefield. In another directive, expelled the Jews out of the Union of Zemsfus and the Union of Cities and the Red Cross, where they concentrate in great numbers to escape their armed services,
Starting point is 02:54:54 as did also, we note in passage, tens of thousands of Russians. Use their advantageous position for propaganda purposes, as did any liberal, radical, and socialists who respected themselves, and above all spread rumors about the incompetence of the high command, which corresponded to a large extent to reality. Other bulletins warned against the danger of keeping the Jews in positions that brought them into contact with sensitive information. in the services of the Union of Zemsvus of the Western Front in April 1916, all the important branches of the administration, including those under the defense secrecy,
Starting point is 02:55:34 are in the hands of the Jews, and the names of those responsible for the registration and classification of confidential documents are cited, as well as that of the director of the Department of Public Information, who, by his functions, has free access to various services of the Army at the rear or the front or in the regions. And nothing good could come of that. They were able to weasel their way in, not in combat positions, but in other but equally powerful positions.
Starting point is 02:56:07 Tsar Nicholas was at the point where he just didn't care what the British were going to say. They had to be removed, period. They had to be removed. And just like in the Vietnam War, you know, it's the same, we keep saying this, it's the same thing over and over again, the same attitude, the same rejection, the same ideology. Jews were a organized crime group that despised, a parasite that despised their home country,
Starting point is 02:56:35 which, frankly, had been very good to them, financially and every other way. And they were promoting revolution at this point. I know I've said this before, but the dislocation, this orientation, the alienation, the suffering that comes from a massive war is just what the left needs to, with so long as they have control over the press, they could talk about incompetence and all this, to promote their agenda and even take over. And that's, if World War I didn't happen, Sir Nicholas would still be in power, would have been in power to the rest for the rest of his life. War creates exactly those chaotic conditions.
Starting point is 02:57:18 The Russo-Japanese War wasn't severe enough. I mean, it was, you know, the front was huge and all that stuff, but it was nothing like World War I. And they used that disorientation to possibly reprogram the healthy elements of Russian society in a way that they like, reformatting their mentality. Now, of course, that didn't work on the peasants. We know that from when the Bolsheviks took over. but also remember, too, that even the liberals, in private, knew what the Jews were.
Starting point is 02:57:56 You had some liberals who were not revolutionaries, and they knew that the Jews were. Wherever they went, at least in Russia, they caused trouble. Now, in the Turkish Empire, for example, there wasn't the case. I'm talking about a few centuries earlier. They assisted them because Islam essentially is an outgrowth of Judaism. I've written on that too. The similarities are too close to be a coincidence. It wasn't quite their country,
Starting point is 02:58:29 but they worked very hard for the interests of the Ottoman Empire, because the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans oppressed the Orthodox and Catholic populations, Croatia, Serbia, Greece, etc. And that was all it took for the Jews to work very hard for them. that's not the case here and any time a Jew at this especially at Royal Russia was not going to in a position of power it was not going to end well
Starting point is 02:59:00 however there is no evidence that the ranting of the general staff on the necessity of chasing the Jews from the Zemgur had any tangible results always well informed Lempke observes that the directives of the military authorities on the exclusion of the Jews from the Zemgore were not welcomed A bulletin was published stating that all persons of Jewish confession who are dismissed by order of the authorities shall be reimbursed for two months with salary and travel allowances and with the possibility of being recruited prior prioritarily in the establishments of the Zemgore at the rear of the front. The Zemgore was the darling of the influential Russian press.
Starting point is 02:59:40 It is thus that it unanimously declined to reveal its sources of financing. In 25 months of war on September 1st, 19164 million rubles granted by the government. Equipment and supplies were delivered directly from state warehouses, compared with only 9 million collected by Zemsfus towns collects. If the press refused to publish these figures, it is because it would have emptied it of its meaning the opposition between the philanthropic and charitable action of the Zemgore and that of a stupid, insignificant, and lame government. Yeah, that's precisely it. There are professors who allegedly specialize in Russian history are telling students maybe right now that Russia under the czars of the totalitarian state, controlled the press, propaganda, supporting the monarchy, was everywhere, church was everywhere, and we're seeing here that the exact opposite was true.
Starting point is 03:00:40 You know, this is one area where censorship would have, made a lot of sense. All governments, I think, without exception, maybe Russia is the only exception, have a pretty massive censorship program during wartime. But when Jews are already in these positions, that's very hard to do. There is a case to be made for censorship, especially in times of stress like this, and especially where Jews are involved, where one of the first things they buy when they start making their money is is the is the media none of the things that we've talked about before that come out of wartime uh are possible without a tightly controlled press and still and even during the civil war monarchists didn't really grasp how
Starting point is 03:01:32 important their own propaganda is to put out the facts of the matter uh they were very slow in that respect. And it's very frustrating to read about to this day. Economic circumstances and geographical conditions meant that among the army suppliers, there were many Jews. A letter of complaint expressing the anger of the Orthodox Russian circles of Kiev, driven by their duty as patriots, points to Solomon Frankfurt, who occupied a particularly high position, that of a delegate of the ministry of agriculture to the supply of the army in bacon. It must be said that complaints about the disorganization caused by these requisitions were held all the way to the duke were heard all the way to
Starting point is 03:02:15 the duma also in kiev an obscure agronomist of the zemsfa of the region zelman koppel was immortalized by history because of having ordered an excessive requisition just before christmas 1916 he he deprived of sugar a whole district during the holidays in this case a complaint was also lodged against the local administration of the zemsfus does anything change change? I think that phrase was supply the army with bacon, which of course, observant Jews can't have. But if there were any, if there was any, you know, by this time, all the supply issues had been solved. In the beginning of the war, supply issues were everywhere and every country. Both Germany and Russia really suffered with it. And no one expected it to be this huge
Starting point is 03:03:07 and to be this massive slaughter. The Jews stepped in for their own self-interest and financed some of it, but that then just gave them control over the army and army supplies, which has something to do with their behavior on the battlefield. And that's one of the reasons, I'm sure of it, why Zorn Nicholas personally took over the army
Starting point is 03:03:31 and became the supreme commander of the Russian army roughly around this time, maybe a little after, at the front, and he moved to the front. He went to the front. I think this has something to do with it. We're going to do the next two paragraphs and then knock off because after that, we're going to start talking about the monarchy and respute.
Starting point is 03:03:53 Oh, good. Okay. In November 1916, the deputy N. Markov stigmatizing in the Duma, the marauders of the rear and trappers of state property and national defense designated as usual, the Jews in particular in Kiev, once again, it was Sheftel, the member of the municipal council who blocked the warehouses and let rot more than 2,500 tons of flour, fish, and other products that the town kept in reserve, while at the same time, the friends of these gentlemen sold their own fish at grossly inflated prices. It was V.I. Demschenko elected from Kiev to the Duma, who hid masses of Jews, rich Jews,
Starting point is 03:04:34 and he enumerates them to make them escape military service. It was also in Saratov, the engineer Levi, who supplied through the intermediary of the Commissioner Frankel, goods to the military industrial committee at inflated prices. But it should be noted that the military industrial committee set up by Gushkov were behaving in exactly the same way with the Treasury. So in a report of the Petrograd Security Department dated October 1916, we can read in Petrograd, trade is exclusively in the hands of the Jews who know perfectly the taste, aspirations, and opinions of the man on the street.
Starting point is 03:05:11 But this report also refers to the widespread opinion on the right, according to which among the people, the freedom enjoyed by Jews since the beginning of the war, arouses more and more discontent. It is true there still exists officially some Russian firms, but they are in fact controlled by Jews. It is impossible to buy or to do anything without the intervention of a Jew. Bolshevik publications such as Kura, I can't pronounce his name, book at the time in Petrograd did not fail to disguise reality by alleging that in May 1915 during the sacking of German firms and shops in Moscow, the crowd also attacked the Jewish establishments, which is false and it was even the opposite that happened. During the anti-German riot, the Jews, because of the resemblance to their surnames, protected themselves by hanging on the front of their shops to placard. This shop is Jewish, and they were not touched. The Jewish trade was not to suffer in all the years of the war.
Starting point is 03:06:14 I'm not sure. I'm not sure if that happened. I think there was some attacks on the Jews. They were very noticeable. but no Jew is going to allow product to rot as we see in the previous paragraph and not sell it unless there's a very specific reason for it and that we're doing everything they can to make sure that Russia, the Russian army was not properly supplied.
Starting point is 03:06:45 And again, this is a result of all the pressure that the British and the Americans put on, their so-called allies put on Russia. Jews in Britain, Jews in the U.S., you know, in 1918 when the U.S. got involved, were not doing this. Jews in Germany were split, but in Russia, they had already very quickly dominated all of these areas. And it's part of the reason why Russia struggled so much, at least in the first half of World War I. The Jews realized that having Russia lose would possibly mean the end. of the monarchy and the creation of a government that they can control. That was their ultimate wet dream, and that was going on here in 1916.
Starting point is 03:07:32 Of course, the war still had two more years to go. But that first half of the war for Russia, these problems, people make fun of the supply issues, you know, not enough uniform, not enough weaponry. Of course, Germany had the same problems. France had the same problems. They eventually solved them. but in the Russian case it was very specifically done
Starting point is 03:07:55 to harm the Russian war effort and when they took over in the Bolshevik revolution you didn't have these problems now you had the inefficiency of central planning of course that wasn't deliberate you know
Starting point is 03:08:13 this was this was a specific this was exactly what people like us today and then say that Jews would do in these positions of power. They hate us. They hate Russia. They hate the monarchy. They hate Christ. They hate orthodoxy. There's no way they're fighting for us, except for the occasional weirdo on their fringes. And even in positions of power, in things like, you know, supply and
Starting point is 03:08:39 logistics, they can't be trusted. And there's no, no question about it. They drove up prices in Petersburg and in Moscow so much of the and it's why the revolutionary movement had such a Jewish flavor to it especially in the Bolshevik party of course the Bund was Jewish by definition but Lenin had a policy of defeatism
Starting point is 03:09:02 which means we need Russia to lose this war and we have to destroy anyone who wants to rally behind the flag even for you know even just for a liberal point of view that has to be eliminated and Jews were the perfect group for this. This was their, this was, we're getting to the point where this is their time.
Starting point is 03:09:22 The Russian monarchy, we're talking October, 1916. The Russian monarchy has exactly one year left. All right. We'll come back for part 55 in a couple days. I want to remind everybody, as I do at the end of every episode, please go over to the show notes and go over to the description in the video sections on YouTube, Rumble, and Odyssey, and there are links to ways
Starting point is 03:09:50 that you can support Dr. Johnson there. Please go and do that. I appreciate it, as always. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. Speak to you in a couple days. Thank you. Yep. I want to welcome everyone back to part 55
Starting point is 03:10:05 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solshinisen. Dr. Johnson, how are you today? You know what bothers me? a lot and this has been coming up in my life a lot and it's becoming to the point where it's a some kind of a pet peeve when people join the military they're in for a short time they sit behind a desk and once they leave they call themselves a veteran I have a huge huge huge problem with that when I was growing up the veteran was a combat veteran
Starting point is 03:10:40 whether it be a medic or a rifleman or or in the air not just somebody who was working a computer in Missouri when a war was going on. The word veterans been been completely denuded of any meaning, and it irritates the hell out of me. I'm like, the only guy in my family has never been, never, didn't join the military. And my father didn't really want me to. And to hear these people, especially these women, claiming to be veterans, you know, because they did the accounting at a base somewhere. It irritates me to no end.
Starting point is 03:11:21 The veteran to me is a combat veteran by definition. Yeah. Yeah. You just did an episode with three of my friends, one who's in the military and two who've been out for some time over 10 years. And we talked about young guys today. And if they were to go in, if they wanted to go into the military,
Starting point is 03:11:42 military, how to do it, the easiest way to get the most from it to, you know, if you're looking for to come out and have the home loan and the college tuition and everything, how to sign up for it, or if you just want to go into combat arms or something like that, we talked about that too. So we, you know, all three of us come from the belief that any war that you go and fight, you're definitely going to fight for Zog, but this is also, this, this is also a way to get some training and some things that maybe possibly, you may need in the future, but it's also a way to get set up financially. So, well, see, especially for the Marines, you know, that's what
Starting point is 03:12:33 they specialize in. My son went in, but, but, um, and my father, of course. but he had no choice in the matter. But I agree with you. It's just this concept of these, you know, five-foot little Muppet women claiming to be veterans because they were in the Army in Florida for a while. I don't. Got a problem with that.
Starting point is 03:12:58 A lot of them are 5 foot 300 pounds, too. Well, I'm not even talking about them. Oh, boy. Don't even get me started there. All right. Picking up where we left off last. time. We're going to, we stop where we did because we were going to get into Rasputin, and I know that's a big topic for you, someone you like, you want to talk about.
Starting point is 03:13:21 So picking up. However, at the top of the monarchy in Rasputin's morbid entourage, a small group of rather shady individuals played an important role. They not only outraged the right-wing circles, it is how in May 1916, the French ambassador to Petrograd, Maurice Paleogog, a paleologue, noted in his diary, quote, a bunch of Jewish financiers and dirty speculators, Rubinstein, Manus, etc., have concluded an agreement with him, Rasputon, and compensate him handsomely for services rendered. On their instructions, he sends notes to ministers, to banks,
Starting point is 03:14:02 or to various influential personalities. I completely disagree with the anti-Rasputin thing. I haven't looked back on my Rasputin research over the years over the last 10 years but, you know, generally speaking, you either love him or you hate him
Starting point is 03:14:22 but all he really wanted to do is get back to Siberia. Anything that was given to him was forced on him. You know, he thought that he could play a role in And, you know, with his poor Alexei. But beyond that, you know, he didn't like power.
Starting point is 03:14:47 He didn't like being in the palace. And he lived as humbly as he possibly could. But so many rumors, sometimes promoted by normally intelligent people, have spread that it's really hard to get away from them. And I had to read, especially in Russian, I had to read and read and read until I finally developed some kind of rational opinion on the matter. It's not an easy topic because you're cutting through so much nonsense. But this is one of the things that when the monarchy fell in 1917, February of 17, the extraordinary investigative commission came to the conclusion, among other topics. that this stuff about Rasputin was false. They had no interest in saying that.
Starting point is 03:15:42 They had every interest in agreeing with it all. Some of them, some of these same people pushed it in the first place. Why would you need? He can't, who couldn't render any services? It, you know, sending notes to ministers to banks. that's not going to mean anything he just you know he didn't want to be there
Starting point is 03:16:12 he knew he had a role to play but the concept of power or being a part of anything like this absolutely made him shudder and there's a lot of brilliant great Russian Orthodox people who hate the guy and I was always kind of in the middle
Starting point is 03:16:31 and there's a few websites in Russia that show, I mean, there's some that wanted to be canonized and never have the icons of them and stuff. He was an interesting spiritual writer, but over and over again, he just said, can I go home? So, anyway. Indeed. If in the past, it was Baron Ginsburg who intervened openly in favor of the Jews. This action was henceforth conducted secretly by the upstarts who had gathered, clustered around Rasputin.
Starting point is 03:17:03 There was the banker D.L. Ruben's. He was the director of a commercial bank in Petrograd, but confidently made his way to the entourage of the throne. He managed to fortunes of Grand Duke Andre Vladimirvich, made the acquaintance of Rasputin through A. Verrobava, then was decorated with the order of St. Vladimir. He was given the title of State Counselor, and therefore of Your Excellency. But also the industrialist IP Manus, director of the Petrograd Wagon Factory, member of the Putsilov Factory Board, the board of two banks, and the Russian transport company, also a state counselor. Rubinstein attached to Rasputin, a permanent secretary, Aaron Semenovitch, a rich jeweler, diamond dealer, illiterate but very skillful and enterprising. But what did Rasputin need of a secretary, he who possessed not?
Starting point is 03:18:01 nothing. This Semenovic, the best among the Jew, would have scribbled the Staritz on his portrait, published in immigration a little book boasting about the role he had played at the time. We find that in all sorts of gossip without interest of fabrications, he speaks to the hundreds of thousands of Jews executed and massacred by the Order of Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich, but through this scum and those surges of boastfulness, one can glimpse real facts, quite concrete. Who killed hundreds of thousands of Jews? On the order of Grand Duke, Nikolai?
Starting point is 03:18:44 He's got to, we've got to read further. For example, the dentist affair for most Jews, which had broken out in 1913, a veritable dentist diploma factory had been elaborated, which fled. Moscow. Their detention gave the right to permanent residence and dispensed of military service. There were about 300 of them, according to some, according to Semenovich, 200. The false dentists were condemned to one year in prison on the intervention of Rasputin. They were pardoned. I don't I don't see any footnote there. I have never come across this except in this book. But this dentist affair, it shouldn't really be a big deal because we've talked weeks ago
Starting point is 03:19:29 about how the Jews were always faking what they were doing so they could have residency in certain areas they weren't carpenters they weren't farmers they weren't they were you know they wanted the paperwork that goes with it and even the subsidy that goes with it
Starting point is 03:19:45 why would resputin give a damn um if these if these frauds were pardoned or not in fact in his in his writings we know of he was kind of hard on the Jews you know now in Siberia where he's from he had very little connection with them but in Petersburg of course that changed during the war the Jews sought protection from Rasputin against the police or the military authorities
Starting point is 03:20:13 and Semenovic proudly confides that many Jewish young men implored his help to escape the army which in time of war gave them the possibility of entering the university there was often no legal way but Semenovic claims that it was always possible to find a solution. Rasputin had become the friend and benefactor of the Jews and unreservedly supported my efforts to improve their condition, quoting Semenvich. By mentioning this article of these new favorites, one cannot fail to mention the unparalleled adventurer,
Starting point is 03:20:48 Manasev, he was in turn an official of the Ministry of the Interior and an agent of Russian secret police in Paris, but should not prevent him from selling a broad secret documents from the police department. He had conducted secret negotiations with Capone. When Sturmer was appointed prime minister, he was entrusted with exceptional secret missions.
Starting point is 03:21:13 Well, first of all, I have not come across any evidence that he was this all-powerful being that could have Jews, you know, free from Army service. I have never, again, I've never come across that in any other publication, whether in Russian or in English, on Resputin, except for this one. You know, he, it took him a while to know what the Jews were because he didn't have experience with it, you know, in Siberia. and second of all
Starting point is 03:21:52 the Father George Gapon again we've mentioned him before he was the very you know I don't know if he was a liberal priest or whatever he led the supposed to have led the Bloody Sunday March in St. Petersburg
Starting point is 03:22:09 that kicked off the 1905 revolution so that's who that's what this Gapoleon is. Rubenstein barged into public life by buying out the newspaper Nouveau Vremia, hitherto hostile to the Jews. Irony of history in 1876, Suverin had bought this paper with the money of the banker of Warsaw Cronberg, and at the beginning, well oriented toward the Jews, he opened its columns to them. But at the beginning of the war between Russia and Turkey, Nouveauvremia, suddenly changed
Starting point is 03:22:45 course, went to the side of the reaction. And as far as the Jewish question was, concerned no longer put a stop to hatred in bad faith. In 1915, Prime Minister Gremkin and the Minister of the Interior Gvostov, Jr., in vain, prevented Rubenstein's buyback of the newspaper. He achieved his aims a little later, but we were already too close to the revolution. All that did not serve much. Another newspaper on the right, Grazdanen, was also partially bought by Manus. S. Melgunov nicknamed the Quintet, the small group which treated his affairs in the
Starting point is 03:23:29 antechamber of the Tsar through Rasputin. Given the power of the latter, it was no small matter. Dubious characters were in the immediate vicinity of the throne and could exert a dangerous influence on the affairs of the whole of Russia. Britain's Ambassador Buchanan believed that Rubinstein was linked to the German intelligence services. This possibility cannot be ruled out. Now, that might be true. But again, this depiction of Rasputin as this all-powerful creature, you know, once the extraordinary commission after the Tsar fell or was removed, it showed that, you know, Rasputin had no money. Actually, Zarnikil personally had a few million dollars. You know, Trusky had a couple of billion when he was axed.
Starting point is 03:24:22 So given his position, he was, he was not a particularly wealthy man. He spent so much of his own money. Nicholas II on the front, on hospitals and everything, I did his wife. But, but yeah, people, dubious characters influencing the affairs of the throne. Yeah, that is true. One of the hardest things that any monarch has to do is control their own court. That's something that Alexander III did extremely well. Basil II in the Byzantine Empire did that extremely well. It takes a very specific type of personality.
Starting point is 03:25:04 So, but the concept of Rasputin being connected to the Germans was a complete fabrication because he was opposed vehemently to the war. war, Russia being involved in World War I. And he said, you know, he begged, you know, Zarnikl's not to do this. And he went back and forth to Siberia, you know, several times. He was called back once in a while. You know, he was treated as a very intelligent man of the people, which he was to a great
Starting point is 03:25:36 extent. But because he was against the war, the rumor started that he was. was a German spy. In fact, anyone who was opposed to the war had that attached to them. So, yeah, but the Jews in particular, any of it, a Rubinstein, yes, it may well have been possible, but there's no evidence that Rasputin was. The rapid penetration of German espionage into Russia and its links with the speculators of the rear forced General Alexiev to solicit from the emperor during the summer of 1916, the authorization to carry out
Starting point is 03:26:14 investigations beyond the area of competence of the general staff, and thus was constituted the commission of an inquiry of general batuition. Its first target was the banker Rubinstein, suspected of speculative operations with German capital, financial manipulation for the benefit of the enemy, depreciation of the ruble, overpayment of foreign agents for orders placed by the general stewardship, and speculative operations on Wheaton, the region of the Volga. On the decision of the Minister of Justice, Rubinstein was arrested on July 10, 1916, and charged with high treason. I might be wrong, but this is the same General Alexiev who had a hand in the overthrow of Tsar Nicholas. That's not an uncommon name, but there wasn't Alexiev involved in that.
Starting point is 03:27:11 And we see this today, you know, with the inability. to, in the U.S., the inability to audit the Pentagon. This is nothing compared to what, and I've been writing about that for years, that you can't audit something, I think the last few times, not the last time, but previously, it was Ernst & Young from New York City. They actually were in the Twin Towers. They were assigned that job. and you could for certain little agencies, but not for the entire thing.
Starting point is 03:27:47 And they said, you can't, you can't audit something that doesn't have any records. There's nothing to audit. And if you go back at my read, you know, I would suggest, and I could actually send this to you, and you could put it on show notes, my stuff on Rasputin, as well as my earlier stuff on the Pentagon. This is, this is absolutely nothing new. but trying to manipulate it was hard to manipulate the the Russian economy because the currency was under the control of the monarchy
Starting point is 03:28:21 but the Jews were removed from the front lines for this very reason overpayment etc but them trying to mess with the value with the ruble and everything else that was just warfare in another direction it was from the empress and person that Rubinstein received the strongest support. Two months after his arrest, she asked the emperor to send him discreetly to Siberia not to keep him here so as not to annoy the Jews. Speak of Rubinstein with Protopov. Two weeks later, Rasputin sent a telegram to the emperor saying that Proto Popov implores that
Starting point is 03:29:02 no one come to disturb him, including counter-espionage. He spoke to me of the detainee with gentlemen. gentleness as a true Christian. Another three weeks later, the Empress, another Rubenstein is dying. About Rubenstein, he is dying. Send immediately a telegram to the northwest front for him to be transferred from Scov under the authority of the Minister of the Interior, that is, of that good and gentle Christian of Proto Popov. And the following day, I hope you sent the telegram for Rubinstein, he's dying. And the next day, have you arranged for Rubenstein to be handed over to the Minister of the Interior. If he stays in Skullf, he will die. Please, my sweet friend.
Starting point is 03:29:44 On the 6th of December, Rubinstein was released, 10 days before the assassination of Rasputin, who had just enough time to render him a last service. Immediately afterward, the Minister Makarov, whom the Empress detested, was dismissed. Shortly thereafter, he will be executed by the Bolsheviks. It is true that with the liberation of Rubinstein, the investigation of the case was not finish. He was arrested again, but during the redeeming revolution of February, along with other prisoners who languished in the Tsars Gauls, he was freed of the Petrograd prison by the crowd and left ungrateful Russia, as had the time to do so Manis and Samanovich. This Rubinstein, we will still have the opportunity to meet him again. For us who live in the 90s of the 20th century,
Starting point is 03:30:34 this orgy of plundering of state property appears as an experimental model on a very small scale. But what we find, in one case or another, it is a government both pretentious and lame that leaves Russia abandoned to its destiny. This gets very confusing with what Rasputin's role was with all of this. Was he genuinely dying?
Starting point is 03:30:58 Of the top of my head, I don't know. But that's very typical of the Empress, who was extremely I mean she was very emotional and the whole female part of the royal family took a crash course in nursing and went right to the front I mean they were they were veterans in the true sense they were right there offering you know first aid and whatever they could they spent a fortune
Starting point is 03:31:25 on on making sure that they got what they what they could And it's the post-revolutionary governments who said this. Half the time, when I see something like this, something written by Rasputin, my first thought is that it's not, that it's a forgery. So much of the stuff that this era was a forgery. And he wants to talk about plundering state property. It's nothing compared to what the post-Petrine era was, meaning after the death of Peter the Great, were in this list, the long list of illegitimate monarchs, ruled secretly by Masons,
Starting point is 03:32:04 people like, you know, Helpsman and Byron, that was an orgy of plundering. Now, what he's saying here, I think, though, is that the Jews were a huge part of this orgy. Rasputin was not involved in, in, in plundering state property, he hated the idea of property. So I guess if we have an occasion to meet him again,
Starting point is 03:32:35 then maybe he wasn't dying, maybe he just fooled people. I don't know, but these two paragraphs get a little bit confusing to me. Educated by the Rubinstein case, the general staff had the accounts of several banks checked. At the same time, an investigation was opening as the sugar producers of Kiev, Hepner, Sekinovsky, Babushkin, and Dobry. They had obtained permission to export sugar to Persia. They had made massive shipments, but very little merchandise had been reported by the customs and had reached the Persian market.
Starting point is 03:33:08 The rest of the sugar had disappeared, but according to some information, it had passed through Turkey, allied to Germany, and had been sold on the spot. At the same time, the price of sugar had suddenly risen in the regions of the southwest where Russia's sugar industry was concentrated. The sugar deal was conducted in an atmosphere of rigor and intransigence, but the Batyushin commission did not carry out its investigation and forwarded the file to an investigative judge of Kiev, who began by expanding the accused, and then they found support alongside the throne. Now, this is true. We've talked about this before. The sugar industry, well, from sugar beats, mostly in Ukraine were under Jewish control
Starting point is 03:33:55 those four names are Jewish names scams like this and it isn't like they had any love for the Kaiser or for Germans but their number one enemy was Russia so they had to elicit the help with their number two enemy
Starting point is 03:34:14 or number three enemy whenever it could the enemy my enemy is my friend has always been a huge deal to the Jews. But these were some of the wealthiest, most powerful Jews of the Russian Empire. And this commission,
Starting point is 03:34:30 even specialists in Russian history, don't talk about it. For a very good reason. We know why. So it's pretty clear, even if some of this stuff is exaggerated or whatever, it doesn't matter. It's pretty clear that Jews, given their position
Starting point is 03:34:45 of power, were really messing with the Russian ability to wage war, a war which should never have happened that Russia should never have been involved in, but once it started, it's not like you could put the genie back in that bottle, you know, they made sure that that hopefully collapsed the Russian government
Starting point is 03:35:10 through all of these tactics. And if anyone can do it, the Jews can do it. As for the Batyushin Commission, itself, its composition left much to be desired. Its ineffectiveness in investigating the Rubinstein case was highlighted by Senator Zavatsky. In his memoirs, General Lekomsky, a member of the staff, recounts that one of the chief jurists of the commission, Colonel Rezanov, an indisputably competent man, was also found to be quite fond of menus, good restaurants, boozy dinners, another, Orlov, proved to be a renegade who worked in the secret police after 1917, then went to
Starting point is 03:35:47 whites and in emigration would be marked by his provocative conduct. There were probably other shady figures on the committee who did not refuse bribes and had capitalized on the release of the detainees. Through a series of indiscriminate acts, the commission drew the attention of the military justice of Petrograd and senior officials of the Ministry of Justice. Look what they tried to do to Djerjaven. When all of these commissions first started under Emperor Paul, just, you know, Right at the almost the dawn of the 19th century,
Starting point is 03:36:22 they were trying to bribe anybody they could to keep that from being released. It was anyway. Now, with much more power and with a lot of social chaos going on, there's no doubt that they did this. I don't know, Colonel Reis enough, because, you know, you had military ranks in the bureaucracy
Starting point is 03:36:44 as well as in the military. so sometimes that there's a parallel there they're not necessarily military men I don't see the problem with liking good restaurants and boozy dinners is he trying to say he's an alcoholic I guess so I don't drink but I don't
Starting point is 03:37:03 see that as a huge deal and so but a lot of this stuff was cut through by the post-revolutionary investigative commission which largely absolved Tsar Nicholas and Rasputin as as people and even the government as a whole
Starting point is 03:37:22 these were private sector actors who were doing everything they could to destroy Russia and of course they almost were all Jews However there was not only the staff to deal with the problem of speculators in relation to the activities of the Jews in general
Starting point is 03:37:39 on January 1916 acting director of the police department Kaffov signed the classified defiance directive, which was addressed to all provincial and city governors and all gendarmerie commands. But the intelligence service of public opinion soon discovered the secret, and a month later, on February 10th, when all business ceased, Kajze read out this document from the Tribune of the Duma. And what could be read there was not only that the Jews make revolutionary propaganda, but that, in addition to their criminal activity of propaganda, they have set themselves two important objectives to artificially raise the price of essential commodities and withdraw from circulation common currency. They thus seek to make the population lose confidence in the Russian currency, to spread the rumor that the Russian government is bankrupt and that there is not enough metal to make coins. The purpose of all this, according to the bulletin, was to obtain the abolition of the palest settlement because the Jews think that the present period is the most favorable to achieve their ends by maintaining the trouble in the country.
Starting point is 03:38:51 The department did not accompany these considerations with any concrete measure. It was simply for information. Yeah, and there's no reason to not believe this. We've already, I think, last week, or the last show and the one before it, so that the Jews were leaning towards Germany and any conflict against Russia. Now, here we're in the middle of the war. It's a great time and a huge war, nothing like the Russo-Japanese War, a massive war that's taking all the headlines,
Starting point is 03:39:25 that people aren't going to notice these kind of things. And this is very typical of the Jewish propaganda. The Russian economy did fairly well throughout the war. And it continued to grow, unlike many others. But spreading rumors was a Leninist stock in trade, especially at the front lines. You know, sending leaflets out there. There's no point to you fighting anymore, et cetera. So they did the same thing during the Civil War.
Starting point is 03:39:59 But artificially raising prices, all of this kind of thing. Again, these are acts of war. This is ground for execution. Here is the reaction of Milikov. The method of Rostopchin is used with the Jews. They are presented to an over-excited crowd saying, they are guilty, they are yours, do what you want with them. During the same days, the police encircled the Moscow Stock Exchange,
Starting point is 03:40:26 carried out identity checks among the operators, and discovered 70 Jews in an illegal situation. A roundup of the same type took place in Odessa. and this also penetrated the Duma Chamber, causing a real cataclysm what the Council of Ministers feared so much a year ago was happening. Quote, in the current period, we cannot tolerate within the Duma a debate on the Jewish question, a debate which could take on a dangerous form and serve as a pretext for the aggravation of conflicts between nationalities, end quote. But the debate really took place and lasted several months. The most lively and passionate reaction to the Bulletin of the Department
Starting point is 03:41:04 was that of Shinagaryov, he had no equal to communicate to his listeners all the indignation which aroused in his heart, quote, there is not an ignimony, not a turpitude which the state has not been guilty toward the Jews, which is a Christian state, spreading calumny over a whole people without any foundation. Russian society will be able to cure its evils only, only when you will withdraw that thorn, this evil that gangrens the life of the country, the persecution of nationalities. Yes, we hurt for our government. We are ashamed of our state.
Starting point is 03:41:47 The Russian army found itself without ammunition in Galicia, and the Jews would be responsible for it. As for the rise in prices, there are many complex reasons for this. Like economics? I was listened to a podcast once. It was two Jewish libertarians, and they both admitted that all economics is, is two Jews having a conversation. Or at least a group of Jews having a conversation.
Starting point is 03:42:18 I read that again, quoting, as for the rise in prices, there are many complex reasons for this. Why, in this case, does the bulletin mention only the Jews? Why does it not speak of the Russians and even others, end quote? indeed prices had sort all over Russia and the same goes for the disappearance of coins quote and it is in a bulletin of the department of police that no one can read all this nothing to object yeah this was you know um these are people who were uh anti-russian to begin with um this kind of hyper emotional not even fact he didn't make one fact he didn't state one fact he didn't state one argument
Starting point is 03:43:02 it'll be bad to persecution of nationality well that's bad for the war effort yes we're ashamed like that's not bad saying things like this I don't know about Russian army running without ammunition in Galicia is very possible
Starting point is 03:43:20 the Jews to be responsible for it and yes there are complex rises for the prices we already discussed these very powerful Jews in Germany and in Russia were involved in this. But it was nothing, unfortunately, that all the nations involved in World War I
Starting point is 03:43:41 were suffering with at the time. Easy to write a bulletin in the back of an office, but very unpleasant to respond to a raging parliament. Yet this was what its author, Kaffov, had to resolve. He defended himself. The bulletin did not contain any directive. It was not addressed to the population, but to local authorities for information and not for action. It aroused passions only after being sold by timorous civil servants and made public from the Rostrum.
Starting point is 03:44:11 How strange, continues Kaffov. We are not talking here of our confidential bulletins, which have also probably been leaked, thus as early as May 1915, he had himself initialed one of this order. Quote, there is a rise in hatred toward Jews in certain. categories of the population of the empire, and the department demands that the most energetic measures be taken in order to prevent any demonstration going in this direction, any act of violence of the population directed against the Jews, to take the most vigorous measures to stifle in the bud the propaganda that begins to develop in certain places, to prevent it
Starting point is 03:44:48 from leading the outbreaks of pogroms. And even a month earlier, at the beginning of February, this directive sent to Pultava reinforced surveillance so as to, quote, be able to prevent in time any attempt to pogrom against the Jews, end quote. And to complain, how is it that the bulletins such as these do not interest public opinion, that those they are allowed to pass in the utmost silence? it seems that these last few paragraphs I think we're done with Rasputin now but these last few paragraphs you know there's been no factual statement made
Starting point is 03:45:34 they're simply saying that this is a bad thing that there's hatred against Jews and there's a pogrom I think pogrom during a war like this would be very difficult you know most of the men were under arms and drafted and at the front or in training but there clearly was contempt for them even though the Jews were spreading their tentacles throughout the media
Starting point is 03:46:00 people knew from past experience that these price rises didn't never happen before Russia's currency was famously stable for centuries in fact only when you have only when bankers take over you know the huge loans necessary for a war where again the war that Russia should never have been involved in do you get these kind of fluctuations chances are it was very artificial it was controlled it eventually was dealt with and even with though with that rise
Starting point is 03:46:39 of inflation if you adjust for it there was an increase in prosperity within the Russian within the Russian Empire, of course, until 1917. And people all of a sudden, you know, we've had Jewish terrorism for the past 40, 50 years here, killing thousands of low-level civil servants, whatever, you know, attempts on the monarch. The only time these guys want increased surveillance is when it comes to the Jews.
Starting point is 03:47:12 so either these people are Jews themselves or they're involved or they're indebted to the Jews or they're involved in other business deals with them because they had to some extent monopolize some of the high-level capitalism of the of the empire at the time in his heated speech shingadiyov immediately warned the duma against the danger of engaging in debates on the boundless ocean of the Jewish question but that was what happened because of the publicity reserved for this bulletin. Moreover, Shengariev himself pushed clumsily in this direction, abandoning the ground for the defense of the Jews to declare that the real traitors were the Russians, Sukhomenalov, Meisadov, General Gagoriev, who had shamefully capitulated at Kofno. There may be some truth to that, but it's not an either-or question. They're not mutually exclusive. they all could be treasonous.
Starting point is 03:48:15 They all could be doing the wrong thing. You know, one has nothing to do with the other. This provoked a reaction. Markov objected that he had no right to speak of Sukomilanov, the latter being for the moment only accused. The progressive bloc was successful in the Sukhominole of affair, but at the end of the provisional government, it itself had to admit that time had been wasted,
Starting point is 03:48:40 that there had been no treason here. Maasadov had already been convicted and executed, but some facts may suggest that it was also a fabricated affair. Markov limited himself to adding that he had been hanged in the company of six Jewish spies. What I did not know, Masadov had been judged alone, and that here is one to six, that was the report. Among certain proposals contained in the program that the Progressive Block had succeeded in putting together in August 1915, the autonomy of Poland seemed somewhat fantastical insofar as it was entirely in the hands of the Germans. The equality of rights for peasants did not have to be demanded of the government because Stolipin had made it happen and it was precisely the Duma which did not endorse it,
Starting point is 03:49:28 positing precisely as a condition the simultaneous equality of the Jews so much so that the gradual introduction of a process of reducing the limitations of rights imposed on Jews. even though the evasiveness of this formulation was obvious, nevertheless became the main proposal of the program of the block. The latter included Jewish deputies, and the Yiddish press reported the Jewish community wishes to progressive block a good wind. There is definitely a pattern here that the left hated the idea of all of these autonomous Jewish peasant communities, as well as that handful of those who were now allowed to go and have property in their own right
Starting point is 03:50:13 that wasn't very popular but there were a few that did it and then at the same time they want the equality of the Jews which means the creation of a far more powerful oligarchy the people in the Duma which is why it's so useless
Starting point is 03:50:33 it was such a if anything is an embarrassment to Russia it was that These four Dumas. We all know what total emancipation would mean. There's a reason. We talked about this so many times. There was a reason for these limitations. We saw what happens in the universities,
Starting point is 03:50:54 what they were doing in the law schools, how they were, you know, they didn't want to be lawyers. They wanted to manipulate the law for their own purposes, for the revolution or for the revolution or for Zionism or for whatever they were interested in. The state, the six Jewish spies, the state under Zarnikos was the only thing
Starting point is 03:51:16 that was keeping Russia together at the time. And so these very same people who hated the idea of peasant proprietorships. I mean, peasants owned at this point 96% of the land, either communally or individually, the Russian Empire. And that includes all of Russia, that includes all of Russia, you know, from east to west. And they didn't like this. And then they advocated more for the emancipation of Jews, which in practice would mean that they would be buying up a lot of this land, pushing them off the land, getting them involved.
Starting point is 03:52:01 Just like the Jochiavan Commission said a century ago. And with all this going on, we're talking about, what, 15? The czar had two years left, a year and a half left. But this Duma was an absolute wreck, and it had no right to be there. And now, after two years of an exhausting war, heavy losses on the front and a feverish agitation in the rear, the extreme right waves its admonitions. Quote, you have understood that you must explain yourself before the people over your silence about the military superiority of the Germans, your silence about the fight against
Starting point is 03:52:39 the soaring prices, and your excessive zeal to want to grant equal rights to the Jews. That is what you are demanding of the government at the present moment in the midst of war, and if it does not meet these demands, you blow it off and recognize only one government, the one that will give equality to the Jews. But we are surely not going to give equality now, just now that everyone is white-hot against Jews. In doing so, you only raise public opinion against these unfortunates. I have in my very first book,
Starting point is 03:53:15 German generals in World War I who were very impressed with the Russian military man, with the Russian command, especially when Nicholas took over personally. I don't know what extreme right people these are. That could refer to a lot of different people. But I guess now they're saying, even if the monarchy, if the monarchy does something we don't like, we're going to be against the monarchy and we're going to want a republic
Starting point is 03:53:40 or something like that. But what they're saying, and so during military superiority, you know, the Russians had knocked two powers out of the war. They knocked Austro-Hungarians and the Turks and we're going back
Starting point is 03:53:59 and forth with the Germans, who of course were split. in the western east from front so I don't know military superiority I don't know what they're talking about there they had just as many losses as the Russians did so and again I don't know specifically who he's talking about here
Starting point is 03:54:22 and why someone on the extreme right would talk about the military superiority to German and the storing prices and everything else but they're certainly right about the Jews anyway. Deputy Friedman refused to claim that the people are at the height of exasperation. In the tragic context of the oppression of the Jews, however, there is a glimmer of hope, and I do not want to ignore it. It is the attitude of the Russian populations of the interior provinces
Starting point is 03:54:52 toward the Jewish refugees who arrive there. These Jewish refugees receive help and hospitality. It is the pledge of our future, our fusion, with the Russian people. But he insists that the responsibility for all the misfortunes of the Jews rests with the government, and he lays his accusations at the highest level. Quote, there was never a pogrom when the government did not want it, end quote. Through the members of the Duma, I am addressing the 170 million inhabitants of Russia.
Starting point is 03:55:22 They want to use your hands to lift the knife on the Jewish people of Russia, end quote. So this was replied, do the deputies of the Duma only know what is thought of in the country? Quote, the country does not write in Jewish newspapers. The country suffers, works. It is bogged down in the trenches. It is there, the country, and not in the Jewish newspapers, where work John Doe's obeying mysterious guidelines, end quote.
Starting point is 03:55:51 It was even said, quote, that the press is controlled by the government is an evil, but there is an even greater evil, that the press is controlled by the enemies of the Russian state, end quote. Yeah, I had Foxy. Fox Mulder Johnson I had in my hand here. I guess he must have missed it because he wanted to come and be on camera. So I missed some of it. It's a long-haired, very small Norwegian forest cat, very beautiful animal. So the state did not control the press in Russia. Of course, any Jewish refugee on a personal level was never. treated poorly. How many times I have to tell people this is not a personal matter.
Starting point is 03:56:38 We're talking about the collective, their aggregate effect on a society, not them as people. The guy who lives up the street from me or my dentist or my father's accountant who treated me with nothing but respect my entire young life, that's not that. This is how the Jews are in general. but no program broke out I think it was very difficult to do on the circumstances where all the able-bodied men
Starting point is 03:57:10 were heading to the front and of course there was trench warfare in the east just like there was in the West showing how ridiculous mindless this war was and I wish to God that Nicholas would have
Starting point is 03:57:27 heeded Rasputin's advice and to state out. As Shingarayov had since, the liberal majority of the Duma was now, no longer interested in prolonging the debate on the Jewish question, but the process was
Starting point is 03:57:43 on and nothing could stop it. And it was a never-ending series of speeches that came in the middle of the other cases to be dealt with for four months until the end of the fall session. The right accused a progressive block. No, the Duma was not going to tackle the problem of
Starting point is 03:57:59 rising prices. You were not going to fight with the banks, the unions, against strikes in the industry, because that would be ten amounts of fighting against the Jews. Meanwhile, the reformist municipality of Petrograd, quote, gave the town supply to two Israelites, Levinson and Lessman, the first the meat supplied, the second the food shops, although he had illegally sold flour to Finland. Other examples of suppliers artificially inflating prices are given. None of the deputies took it upon himself to defend these speculators. Which suggests to me that they knew it was true.
Starting point is 03:58:35 That inflation was used as a weapon of war domestically as well as from Germany and elsewhere, Jews really around the world to harm the Russian war effort. Having Jews as part of that war effort, you know, the meat supply and food, you know, knowing what they've been. knowing what they've done, knowing who they're connected to. It's just they must have really been able to talk a good game. We're getting into, there's a couple paragraphs here where they're going to talk about the numerous clauses. So I think we should end it right here and pick up with, looks like there's a new idea starting here. Yeah, this section has been very all over the place to me. there's no real resolution to the issue,
Starting point is 03:59:33 Rasputin. So Zanitin is not giving really an opinion. He's just laying out the information as he understands it. But he does say, I mean, you know, if I put my mind to it, I'm sure I could very easily show that the Jews were involved in inflation in 1915, 1916, which was part of the reason
Starting point is 03:59:57 eventually you had strikes and everything else but remember what strikes are in the past even just in past 20 years in Russia here we're talking about you had they were they were wanting to strike a gunpoint
Starting point is 04:00:12 yes it's true the labor laws which were very generous were and this is a case all over the place the eight hour day was eliminated you had 12 and 12 sometimes especially for strategic industries no one like that but people understood it um but you know wherever the jews
Starting point is 04:00:35 had reached a point of power here that czar nicholas a handful of others and one of them was resputin was was fighting by himself to keep the country together because you did have a military men who were the um alexievs i already mentioned and a few others who were going to be a big part of his being forced out now he did not resign he didn't abdicate that that's a forgery i go through that in my book um on the ritual murder of the royal family um very kind you know it's it's in in russia no one really believed that was a real thing um it's very poorly done figured out well no one's going to know you know but um but otherwise this was a very uh uh a a very difficult and very confusing set of paragraphs,
Starting point is 04:01:30 partially because you're dealing with Russia now plunged into a massive war that it did not start, that it had nothing to do with, and the only reason that they were involved was they had certain obligations to the Slavs, the Orthodox Slavs of the Balkans. And that's pretty much it. they were going to gain nothing else from this and there was no way that the czar could have ever known that the war was going to be this nasty
Starting point is 04:02:02 and this brutal with the poison gas and the airway on this this this shocked everybody in Europe the trenches and everything else none of this was expected the mass slaughter was not expected this was a new wave of warfare and you see notice in World War II it really didn't happen
Starting point is 04:02:23 There was a specific desire to get away from it, if possible, because there was nothing, no hell like fighting in those trenches. I've watched enough shows and read enough on it. They're filled with water. There's dead bodies. It was, it was, it was beyond belief. And the PTSD that these poor guys must have had was off the chart. it really was that was a real crime here but the Jews and the left use this war
Starting point is 04:02:57 to their own advantage as they always do no war no revolution all right we will pick up from here on the next episode please go over to the show notes and go over to the videos and the description section and every way that you can possibly donate to Dr. Johnson
Starting point is 04:03:16 is there so please do that and we'll be back on couple days. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 56 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? When was it ever the case that that grass grows three inches a day? I mean, I just mowed the lawn and I looked out there and it needs to be mowed again. This is, you know, is this some sort of a mutant species. I don't know what's happening, but I have no choice. I have to do it. I have an excellent lawnmower, by the way. I'm very happy with it. One of the battery operated ones.
Starting point is 04:04:02 Yeah, I actually had to put it on my schedule to mow the lawn for tomorrow morning, and I think the last time I moat it was Friday morning. So I'm not happy. I miss my riding mower, though, with the two sticks, not the, not the steering wheel. I had my own house. The space age 360, zero turn. I loved it. I loved it. It was like a go-kart. I tend to think the reason men like that is just because it has some kind of sci-fi thing to it,
Starting point is 04:04:38 and you can pretend like you're in a sci-fi movie and you're going through space or something like that. Well, it's very intuitive. It seemed very normal. I didn't even have to think about it, how to move the two. the two bars. It was excellent. And it actually came with the house when I bought it back in
Starting point is 04:04:57 2003. I have a tractor. I only have a half an acre. So, yeah. I have a half an acre. So I can't justify it. All right. Ready to go?
Starting point is 04:05:14 I wish. Yes, sir. Here we go. Here we go. After that, it is impossible. that the question not come up for discussion, so current during these years of war, of the numerous clauses. As we have seen, it had been reestablished after the revolution in 1905, but was
Starting point is 04:05:32 gradually mitigated by the common practice of day school in high schools and the authorization given to Jews who had completed their medical studies abroad to pass the state diploma in Russia. Other measures were taken in this direction, but not the abrogation pure and simple. In 1915, when the palest settlement was abolished, P.N. Ignatyev, Minister of Public Instruction in 1915, 1916, also reduced the numerous clauses in higher education institutions. Let's remind the audience what the numerous clauses is, and was, it was a quota on Jewish acceptances into really any upper-level institution. Medical school, law school, in particular, And it came into existence because the minute you had a certain number of Jews, a certain critical mass, they immediately began to agitate for revolution.
Starting point is 04:06:35 They didn't even seem to care about what the school was all about. That was just a basis for violence. And, of course, you know, the first thing they do, they get rid of professors. They don't like to get rid of students. they don't like with incredible arrogance that's where this came from and it didn't take many of them
Starting point is 04:06:55 it had nothing to do with being upset or being jealous like the Jewish encyclopedia would say this that numerous clauses came from from bloody experience and as we saw in the 1905 revolution that's all the universities
Starting point is 04:07:12 were in the areas affected there were just base camps of these violent you know, proto-Bosovic revolutionaries. And then the spring of 1916, the walls of the doom echoed the debate on this issue at length. The statistics are the Ministry of Education
Starting point is 04:07:33 as examined, and Professor Lavachev, deputy of Odessa, states that the provisions of the councils of minister, authorizing the derogatory admission of children of Jews called up for military service have been arbitrarily extended by the Ministry of Education to the children of Zemgore employees, evacuation agencies, hospitals, as well as persons declaring themselves deceitfully, dependent on a parent called up for military service.
Starting point is 04:08:02 Thus, of the 586 students admitted in 1915 in the first year of medicine at the University Odessa, 391 are Jews, that is to say, two-thirds, and that only one-third remained from other nationalities. At the University of Rostafandan, 81% of Jewish students at the faculty of law, 56 at the Faculty of Medicine, and 54% at the Faculty of Sciences. And the Jews would love you to believe, but that's because they're so much smarter than anyone else. You know, the Slavs are animals, and of course we're going to dominate these institutions. No, the real reason is because once they get into a position in the administration, they will favor other Jews. that's been going on. Harvard Law School is very much like that.
Starting point is 04:08:49 Regardless of what they score on their LSATs or what their grades may have been. You know, in Harvard, you had, what's his name, that Jew with the Jew fro, he's always on TV. Ignatio? No, in the law school. Oh, in the law school. Oh, Dershowitz. He was hired with tenure,
Starting point is 04:09:18 which I have never heard of before in my life. You have to earn tenure. It takes six years to get it. He was hired with tenure built in, you know, many years ago. This is how the system works. The Ivy Leagues are very Judaic,
Starting point is 04:09:37 which is where the reputation comes from. And, of course, on the far left of the political spectrum. And these numbers, as far as Russians are concerned, are dangerous. How many Jewish doctors are going to treat a Russian nationalist? Will it be different if they treat, like, say, an Orthodox priest? What is their role in that regard?
Starting point is 04:10:05 Even shows today, like Family Guy, they seem to imply that Jews are superior in all of these areas. It's a very Jewish show. Most of them are. But these numbers, from everything we've learned so far, these numbers are dangerous for the Russian state. If you get this huge number of lawyers sent out, you won't get another conviction for terrorism ever again. If it's leftist revolutionary terrorism,
Starting point is 04:10:36 unfortunately, the Tsar only had a year left. Gorovich replies to Levicev, this is proof that the numerous clauses is useless. What is the use of the numerous clauses when even this year, when the Jews benefited from a higher-than-normal arrangement, there was enough room to welcome all Christians who wanted to enter the university? What do you want? Empty classrooms? Little Germany has a large number of Jewish teachers, yet it does not die of it. Markov's objections.
Starting point is 04:11:07 Objection. Universities are empty. universities are empty because Russian students are at war and they send to the university's masses of Jews escaping military service. The Jews have overwhelmed the University of Petrograd and thanks to that will swell the ranks of the Russian intelligentsia. This phenomenon is detrimental to the Russian people, even destructive, because every people is subject to the power of its intelligentsia.
Starting point is 04:11:35 The Russians must protect their elites, their intelligentsia, their officials, their government. The latter must be Russian. And he was absolutely correct. The fact that he could, if there'll be a time in just a couple of years, men like him won't be able to make this argument under any circumstances. We're coming to the end of Russia, an independent Russia at all. And he's absolutely right. Jews are, of course, evading military service, getting away with it, and then sending their kids to the very institutions that would enforce those kind of laws on anyone. So as the Russian boys are being tormented in the trenches at the front in ways that neither
Starting point is 04:12:23 of us can imagine, Jews, as always, are taking advantage and filling the ranks of these revolutionary institutions. It's no accident. You know, Lenin takes over, London Trotsky take over. at least some of Russia in October of the following year. And, you know, one of the first laws they pass is, is, you know, you can't talk about the Jews anymore. You have to talk about even the word Jew rather than a Jewish person or the Jewish people was highly frowned upon. I don't know if there were any cases about that.
Starting point is 04:13:03 But, but Solzhenitin will say, we'll get to this part much later, but they were. thousands of cases violating the anti-Semitism laws which aren't as you know not that far away from what we're dealing with in Western Europe
Starting point is 04:13:21 in Central Europe too now it's true I want to make a point here Russia does have those laws but they actually believe I have a paper on this concerning one of my favorite authors Nazadov um
Starting point is 04:13:39 They actually are about incitement. You actually have to say, you know, to this crowd, let's go and kill these people or something like that. Now, the other laws are like that, but that's not how they're enforced. If something is done in a scholarly way, in an intelligent way, then it's not a problem. And some of his books were brought to the, I have a paper. I could actually send it to you. I published some time ago on the Nazadov case where Jews tried to get him shut down and they failed because he first of all he was doing it from a scholarly point of view he wasn't trying to get them hurt in any way he was using on mostly Jewish sources which actually did impress the people involved so Russia doesn't have doesn't Russia has similar but not identical laws concerning all that stuff.
Starting point is 04:14:42 We have Holocaust revisionist conferences over there all the time. But, you know, the only law that exists is about actual physical incitement based on ethnicity or really anything else. You know, you can't say that's not how they're enforced in Western Europe. We all know that. But in Russia, it's actually very strictly enforced that way. you can't say let's go have a pogrom to a bunch of drunken guys and they go out and they start smashing things up that's a that would be a separate charge then it's taken seriously anything that's scholarly anything that's serious anything that's meant to provide knowledge is exempt from any kind of censorship in in Russia well it makes sense right you want order you don't want chaos and that would just be that would be chaos, and you don't know who's getting hurt. Russians could be getting hurt in the process.
Starting point is 04:15:44 So, I mean, anybody who would criticize Russia for that has never led or managed met. Let's put it that way. Yeah, you know, every once in a while I get some idiot who says, well, they have the same laws over there. I certainly object to one of the laws passed by the diet, I'm sorry, the Duma, about rejecting certain truths about the Red Army in World War II I reject I think that's a stupid thing it was passed by the
Starting point is 04:16:19 Dumas signed by signed by him but even there a scottily approach is always exempted they really mean incitement you know I do I do reject that
Starting point is 04:16:35 I've criticized Putin on that as much as I can. It's a huge area of disagreement. No one's a bigger Putin fan than I am. And yet his focus on the great patriotic war, it's popular. He's a politician. You know, it's a popular thing to do. And although those celebrations over there are for political purposes,
Starting point is 04:17:02 not really historical purposes. Anyway, so that is the case. You, you know, we have, we have those kind of conferences in Russia all the time. They debate the Jews right on the floor of the Duma. It was impossible in the U.S., in the press, impossible for any of that to occur in any Western country, but it's done every day. You know, the Jewish question is wide open in Russia. That used to be the case in Ukraine, too, until 2004-2014, where they shut all of that. down. Now you have four political parties all saying the same thing. I mean, they're identical.
Starting point is 04:17:43 Every other party has been shut down and their assets have been confiscated. But it's still called a multi-party democracy, essentially to one party state. We know that. There's a handful of oligarchs who run it. But it was the case, even worse in Ukraine, or better in our case, than it was in Russia. But Russia, it's a live issue. You could talk about it. it all the time. The letter, I think with, I forget the letter that has a thousand signatures about the Jews. This stuff is being talked about daily. There aren't many Jews in Russia. They're less, they're far fewer than 2% of the population. But they are well organized. They don't treat Putin like a, like a subject like they do in the U.S. They treat them as
Starting point is 04:18:29 someone that they have to placate. They have to deal with. because so much of his popularity 20 years ago was sending these Jewish oligarchs to prison. If he had shot them all, he would have been more popular. So, and then, and that's, that's very connected to the, you know, with the intelligentsia, it's a broad term. It refers to your public intellectuals as well as your academics.
Starting point is 04:18:56 I think, I, I bridge that, bridge that gap between those two things. We all know who, you know, the intelligentsia in America is ridiculous. Maya Anzalu, who I just realized the other day was dead. But in Russia, you do have serious debates about this stuff on street corners. The only thing that's not permitted is actual true incitement. You have people who talk about the Holocaust in the most scholarly way are being attacked in Western Europe for incitement. They're not inciting anything. They're just making scholarly statements.
Starting point is 04:19:34 from the U.K. to Germany. So he's absolutely right, though. This massive, the Jews escaping military service, they're not going to fight for the Russian Empire. Then they send these same kids to flood the universities. Now that they have control over the administration, while Russian boys are being shot at in the trenches, and this is going to be one of the ways that they take over.
Starting point is 04:20:02 even if the Bolshevik revolution never occurred, this would still have to be dealt with at one level or another. They were building a state within a state precisely with these, and that's what the numerous clauses was passed to fight. Universities are empty. What is Guravich saying? Are they too stupid?
Starting point is 04:20:27 Do they want to be there? No, of course, they're at the front. Russia's best was at the front, not, you know, that's why it would be empty of the one. So, so it was a stupid argument, but it just goes to show that even in the Duma, this kind of thing, then as today, can be debated. And it looks like in this case that Gervitz lost. Well, what's going to happen is, is that in the comments under this somewhere, somebody's going to post a link to a picture. of Putin with a yarmulka on at the whaling wall because that's what spurgs do yeah i've seen that i don't you know he's a flipping politician this is what these guys do he supports
Starting point is 04:21:17 hamas you know he supports hesbalah always has um you know i've seen it's hard to find um But that's, in his mind, that was a way to deal with, to go to the great patriotic war idea. But I do think it's blasphemous, as Michael Hoffman taught us all, because the whaling wall is not the temple. There was nothing left of the temple, according to Christ, when he said nothing was left of it. No stone was on another. But a picture doesn't tell us anything anymore. Um, his policies, uh, tell us, uh, tell us what we need to know. Pictures are for people who want to avoid the debate, not be involved in it.
Starting point is 04:22:07 So let them post it if they want. Six months later in the autumn of 1916, Friedman harped on about this by asking the doom of the following question. Thus, it would be better for our universities to remain empty. It would be better for Russia to find itself without no intellectual elite. rather than admit Jews in two great numbers? On the one hand, Gurevich was obviously right. Why should the classrooms have been left empty? Let each one do what he has to do.
Starting point is 04:22:38 But in asking the question in these terms, did he not confront the suspicions and bitterness of the right? Therefore, we do not work together. One group to make war, the other to study? Here's an aside from Solzhenison. My father, for example, he interrupted his studies at Moscow University and joined the army as a volunteer. It seemed at the time that there was no alternative to not go to the front would have been dishonorable. Who among these young Russian volunteers and even among the professors who remained in the universities
Starting point is 04:23:11 understood that the future of the country was not only played on the battlefields. No one understood it neither in Russia nor in Europe. Yeah, and there was a tremendous martial tradition there. as ridiculous as the war as World War I was it was something that had to be fought once Russia was in the middle of it and it isn't like they're not going to come home some of them not won't but a lot of them will
Starting point is 04:23:42 they have a huge population the circulation and rotation of soldiers was tremendous they wouldn't be empty under any circumstances God forbid they have smaller classrooms Would they have a shortage of lawyers in Russia at the time? You know, there's no such thing as a shortage of lawyers. But yeah, this is exactly, that's what Solzhenitsyn is saying here.
Starting point is 04:24:10 If you're called up, you go. And that's what was taken very seriously in Russia. See, World War II, as, you know, as NS as I am, you know, and I know it's not Hitler's fault, he invaded the Soviet Union, Russia, quote unquote, because Stalin was planning on invading Western Europe or Central Europe. And he was. There's no doubt about that anymore. There's no question about that anymore. There's too many studies on it. But still, he invaded Russia. It was much easier for Stalin to make propaganda out of that. than anything, but it's just, you know, in this case, it's just, there's a war going on, we have to fight, at least for the honor of the country, if for no other reason. But this isn't much of an argument. The Gervis argument is stupid. You're still going to have thousands of men coming home.
Starting point is 04:25:09 Are they going to be rotated? You know, you have 160 million people living in Russia. He just would like classes to be filled to the brim with Jews and nothing else. And if that's the case, law won't even be an issue. It'll just be revolution. You know, I think I've always said that universities in America, for example, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a utopia for the left. That's what the left wants the society to be, you know, a total, you know, a complete totalitarian system where white people have no rights whatsoever. Everything is, you know, if you use their web servers, they monitor. or everything you do. All the years I was a professor,
Starting point is 04:25:52 I told students this. I said, be really careful. If you use their servers, I don't think you have a choice. In many cases, they're watching. It's a cookie that they put up,
Starting point is 04:26:03 put on your computer. And that's just the beginning. All these, you know, re-education camps and everything else. I was sent to one when I was in grad school. But that's,
Starting point is 04:26:15 that's a kind of in miniature, what they would love society. to be. And of course, you know, they tend to get what they want, at least up until recently. In the spring of 1916, the debate on the Jewish question was suspended on the grounds that it provoked undesirable agitation and public opinion. But the problem of nationalities was put back on the agenda by an amendment to the law on townships Zemsfos. The creation of this new administrative structure was discussed during the winter of 1916 to 17 during the last months of the existence of the Duma.
Starting point is 04:26:49 And then one fine day, when the main speakers had gone for refreshments or had returned to their penance, and then, and that there was little left for the sitting than half of the well-behaved deputies, a peasant of Viatka named Tassaroff managed to sneak into the tribune. Timidly, he spoke, striving to make the members of the House understand the problem of the amendment. It provides that, quote, everyone is admitted, and the Jews. that is, and the Germans, all those who will come to our township, and to those, what will be
Starting point is 04:27:22 their rights? These people are going to be registered in our township, but they are going to take places, and the peasants, no one takes care of them. If it is a Jew who runs a township administration and his wife who is secretary, then the peasants, then what are their rights? What is going to happen? Where will the peasants be? And when our valiant warriors return, and what will they be entitled to, to stay in the back, but during the war, it was on the front line that they were. The peasants. Do not make amendments that contradict the practical reality of the peasant life. Do not give the right to the Jews and Germans to participate in the elections of the township Zemsvus, for they are people who will bring nothing useful.
Starting point is 04:28:04 On the contrary, they will greatly harm and there will be, they will greatly harm and there will be disorders across the country. We peasants, we are not going to submit. submit to these nationalities, end quote. That's interesting because he kind of just snuck in. And sometimes I forget about this incident. And people listen to them. This is why, well, not the only reason, but one of the reasons why Rasputin was, at least for a while in the good graces of the royal family.
Starting point is 04:28:38 They needed that connection to people like this. now Germans in the Russian Empire were very loyal he's just talking about there's a war going on and they're fighting them the German Russo Germans I guess whatever you call them were a big part of of Russian life and like Vita
Starting point is 04:29:01 you know these were and they were Orthodox as well most of them Themstva don't forget this was a a small legislature at the county level was very important and was instituted by Alexander II as part of his reform
Starting point is 04:29:18 but what he's laying out here let's just say the revolution never happened if Russia went back to normal after the war was over this is a nightmare you would have now the entire you had so many men leaving the Jews would simply fill everything
Starting point is 04:29:39 they would come back and they would be second-class citizens. Jews despise the peasantry. We know that through the policies of the USSR. All the redneck stuff that you hear about today, these boys would have come home and have been ordered around by Jews who wouldn't go to the front under any circumstances. That's why they were filling the business schools. Oh, not business schools, the economic
Starting point is 04:30:09 schools the law schools and god forbid the medical schools and so as i said before the revolution never occurred this would this would be a problem that the zon would have to deal with and the um peasant commune as well as the artels in the cities and the monarchy itself that would be that would be the only things keeping rusher together um so to ignore the numerous clauses was just to uh was just incredibly stupid and very short-sighted liberals liked it because they thought they figured you know this is virtue signaling and that you know the jews would promote our agenda little did they know um but this guy was right so just be careful with the german talk i mean you know that was during the war in the middle of a war actually um and he you know he but he is talking about about the Jews specifically taking over everything since the war was going on. You had millions of Russian boys at the front. Of course, you had older people who were still home.
Starting point is 04:31:26 And in the chaos of the war, it was very easy to get away with things. So, you know, he wasn't even supposed to be there. But again, this was the role of Rasputin for a while. you know you get to you know Petersburg was designed to be isolated be isolated from the population that's why the Slavophiles hate the Russian nationalists tend to hate it
Starting point is 04:31:47 Moscow is the capital Kiev is the capital not not Petersburg it was meant to be isolated deeply Gnostic city as I've written about many times before it's one of my many books that I'm working on
Starting point is 04:32:04 so he's right and I forget about this timidly as he spoke it's hard to find information on this in English other than in this translation of Solzhenitsyn's book but this was the typical mindset
Starting point is 04:32:21 of the Russian peasant he is not stupid he can be very widely he had to be and his biggest enemy was the Jew the state guaranteed his land and 97% of the Russian peasants own the land or either through a commune or personally that they worked on. No other country in Europe could even come close to that.
Starting point is 04:32:44 This is why the standard of living was so high and we continued to grow during the war. But this is your typical mentality. The Jews would love you to believe that peasants were too stupid. You know, when the collective farms were created under Lennon, and yes, it did happen under Lennon for a while, you had these Jews being sent who've never seen a farm before who were making agricultural policy well I guess if Woodrow Wilson is sending us grain
Starting point is 04:33:12 we don't have to worry about food we can eliminate huge numbers of them and if any group of people suffered in the first half of the USSR's existence it was the peasantry because they refused to accept the Soviet Union they were the only ones who were telling the world
Starting point is 04:33:27 that this was a Jewish phenomenon you had some intellectuals but they were left that had been either killed or left the country by that point. This is why, this is the typical mentality of the peasant, and it should be taken very seriously. Depending on who you read, they're just ignorant rednecks, you know, in Russia. And that is not the case. You had a high level of literacy.
Starting point is 04:33:51 This man had to have been literate. And if you imagine coming home from this nasty war and having Jews, controlling huge parts of your life. You're fighting for the Tsar and the monarchy that they hate. What's going to happen to you? And this is, it's extremely important. And he says, we peasants, we're not going to submit. Well, they weren't kidding.
Starting point is 04:34:18 Because from October of 1918, practically to World War II, to the German invasion, you had pretty much a constant civil war of the peasantry against the Soviet government at one level or another, one place or another, at one level of intensity or another, it never ended. And so they weren't kidding, and they refused to submit. He was absolutely right. But in the meantime, the campaign for equal rights for Jews was in full swing. It now enjoyed the support of organizations that had not previously been concerned with the issue,
Starting point is 04:34:55 such as the Vostev Central Workers Group, which represented the interests of the Russian proletariat. In the spring of 1916, the Workers Group claimed to be informed that the reaction is openly preparing a program against the Jews throughout Russia. And Cosmas Vosdev repeated this nonsense at the Congress of Military Industrial Committees. In March 1916, in a letter to Rozyenko, the Workers Group protested against the suspension of the debate on the Jewish question in the Duma, and the same group accused the Duma itself of complacency toward the anti-Semites. Quote, the attitude of the majority at the meeting of March 10th is de facto to give its direct support and to reinforce the policy of anti-Jewish pogroms led by the power.
Starting point is 04:35:42 By its support of the militant anti-Semitism of the ruling circles, the majority in the Duma is a serious blow to the work of national defense. They had not agreed that they had not realized that in the Duma it was precisely the left who needed to end the debate. The workers also benefited from the support of Jewish groups who, according to a report by the Security Department of October 1916, had overwhelmed the capital and without belonging to any party are pursuing a policy violently hostile to the power. I probably, he means state power, but, or the monarchy, I should say, but I probably
Starting point is 04:36:21 don't have to say this, but the workers group represented. Zero workers. We've talked about this in many, especially in the Odessa violence, workers had their demands written by these urban Jews. Workers were totally unaware of this, would reject a lot of it, would take legitimate issues, and then in a short span of time, turn it into this Marxist nonsense. None of them accept it as true.
Starting point is 04:36:55 1905, it was full of that stuff. Workers group had nothing to do with labor. The Soviet Union had nothing to do with labor. We said 100 times why the proletariat was singled out, because they were alienated, moving into the city. But even that, they needed force to get strikes. They needed force to get people to do things for them. And they knew that when they took over, whether it be Bolshevism or whatever, that they were going to have to constantly use force to get their war. way. So this workers group had nothing to do with labor. That was just a pretext, as we've come
Starting point is 04:37:31 across this 100 times by now. And the power in all this? Without direct evidence, it can be assumed that within the ministerial teams that succeeded each other in 1916, the decision to proclaim equal rights for the Jews was seriously considered. This has been mentioned more than once by Proto Popov, who had already succeeded, it seems, in turning Nicholas II in this direction. Proto Popov also had an interest in going quickly to cut short the campaign that the left has set in motion against him. In General Glabachev, who was the last to direct the Department of Security before the revolution, writes in his memoirs, in the words of Dobrovolski, who was also the last minister of justice
Starting point is 04:38:19 to the monarchy. The bill on equal rights for the Jews was already in the months that preceded the rebellion, and in all likelihood, the law would have been promulgated for the 1917 Easter celebrations. Well, by promulgated, I think he means that Tsar Nicholas would accept it. The Duma never really produced anything. Its powers were very vague. It was just a revolutionary body, although there were certainly some good right-wingers within it. Keep in mind that, you know, at this point, even when Russia was victorious in World War I, and they had many good years in knocking all these countries out of the war,
Starting point is 04:39:05 Bruselov and all this stuff, when Nicholas took over, it didn't matter. Nicholas was surrounded by traitors. So many of these men celebrated the fall of Tsar Nicholas. and the creation of the provisional government, as did maybe two-thirds of the bishops in the Orthodox Church, which a lot of Orthodox people don't want to deal with. So it's a deeply Masonic concept.
Starting point is 04:39:30 The masonry had penetrated so many of the upper classes in different areas. But it's possible that he doesn't say that it would have been promulgated by Nicholas. He says it just would be promulgated. I think what he means is maybe, this wouldn't happen at all. Zahar would be gone, and hence equal rights for Jews would be de facto,
Starting point is 04:39:57 and then later de jure, but it doesn't matter. He doesn't mention Nicholas here at all. Nicholas was clear on the Jewish question. He was well aware of what was going on concerning them, as was his wife, as was Rasputon, contrary to the nonsense we talked about on Saturday. But in 1917, the U.S.S. Easter celebrations were to take place under a completely different system.
Starting point is 04:40:22 The ardent aspirations of our radicals and liberals would then have come true. Everything for victory. Yes, but not with that power. Public opinion, both among the Russians and among the Jews as well as the press, all were entirely directed towards victory, were the first to claim it, only not with this government, not what this czar. All were still persuaded of the correctness of the simple and brilliant reasoning they had held at the beginning of the war before it ends because afterwards it would be more difficult
Starting point is 04:40:54 and by winning a victory by winning a victory over victory on the germans to throw down the czar and change the political regime and that is when the equal rights for the jews would come yeah that seems to you know essentially mirror what i what i just said um public opinion that's a very very abstract claim you're already seeing the Jews taking over institution after institution like they do everywhere the left doing the same thing being well funded not only internally but also externally by the Jews of Britain the Rothschild family and shift in the US Nicholas remained popular until the end we have examined in many ways the circumstances in which took place 120 years of common life between Russians and Jews within the same state. Among the difficulties, some have found a solution over time. Others emerged and increased in the course of the years prior to the spring of 1917. But the evolving nature of the process is in motion visibly taking over and promised a constructive future. And it was at that moment that a blast disintegrated
Starting point is 04:42:08 the political and social system of Russia, and thus the fruits of evolution, but also the military resistance to the enemy, paid for with so much blood, and finally the prospects for a future of fulfillment. It was the Revolution of February. All right. Keep in mind that February was the Revolution of Kerensky. October is the, on the old calendar,
Starting point is 04:42:32 October is the Bolshevik one, which was very easy for them because the provisional government made that very easy for them. There's clearly a connection. You know, Kerenzky was a socialist of some type. But despite the propaganda against Nicholas, and especially Rasputin got hit so hard, like how Trump's being hit, you know.
Starting point is 04:43:00 It was so hard and so constant. The core of the country still remained with him and with the monarchy. The war, of course, was a huge fact. in a lot of this and the Jews are going to take advantage of anything where Russian boys are going to be away and it's all men of course are going to be away
Starting point is 04:43:22 doing something that they would never do in a million years they would do for Israel they wouldn't do for their enemy um and um but but let's just say that that February never happened Russian soldiers come back let's say
Starting point is 04:43:40 I don't know whenever 1918 19191919 whenever it would have ended. I'll say Germany was exhausted. Versailles, I don't think it would have happened. But Russian men would have to deal with a very, even more Jewish legal profession, even a more Jewish medical profession. They were trying to shut down the debate
Starting point is 04:44:03 on the so-called emancipation of the Jews, which would have allowed them to dominate everything, clearly. Full emancipation would mean the numerous clauses would be gone. you know, that's, that's part of the purpose of it. So they would support each other, bring each other in. You would have completely ethnic, and parts of Western Russia especially, these universities producing lawyers and scholars
Starting point is 04:44:28 and the so-called intelligentsia would be either Jewish or heavily influenced by them because they kicked, you know, they kicked their opponents out of universities all the time. I know a thing or two about that, although they weren't particularly Jews in my case but regardless
Starting point is 04:44:50 Zara Nicholas would have had to deal with this very kind of unnatural bizarre problem with these Khazars having sneaked their way in and I don't know how they could have remained you know they weren't really a part of the Entente the British hated them the whole point was to protect
Starting point is 04:45:09 British interests and get Germany and Russia to fight each other. And he certainly would have survived the war if February never happened. And if you read in my book on the ritual murder of the royal family of Russia, Nicholas and his family, his abdication was totally fraudulent. It was written by generals. I have them all listed there. Things don't make any sense.
Starting point is 04:45:41 I can't go through it. I don't want to get into it now, but, you know, was written by a typewriter, which, of course, you would never do. It has to be in the handwriting of the monarch. The seal was wrong. There were so many problems with it. And a lot of people in Russia, you know, all over the place politically, but, you know, believe that that was completely fraudulent. and Nicholas was surrounded by enemies, by traitors, by frauds as a lot of good people. It's like Josiah in the Old Testament, you know, King Josiah. And that was the problem. And it's sad.
Starting point is 04:46:28 This is, our world would be almost unimaginable had February and October never happened. These are the seismic shifts in global power. However, I'll repeat again, the provisional government did eventually. At least they had the honesty to completely absolve Rasputin, the royal family, the military of corruption, of any kind, of any kind. And people around them may have, but that wasn't necessarily. the fault of Nicholas. They didn't want to come to that conclusion, but they did.
Starting point is 04:47:09 And through the investigative commission, which is one of their big priorities, let's get to the bottom of this while we still have the records. This is a huge argument for anyone who's interested in defending the monarchy is that their own enemies said that they can't find anything really that they did wrong. Other than, of course, getting involved. in in World War I
Starting point is 04:47:34 and Rasputin was the only person one of the only people who were you know fighting that idea these other you know right wingers Dumas and elsewhere were screaming for it and remember the monarchs were iffy about it it was the parliaments
Starting point is 04:47:51 and the Dumas and the diets that were screaming for war and the media especially Nicholas didn't care about if he was popular or not but he was anyway yes he was not as strong as his father but he wasn't this weak will person
Starting point is 04:48:08 that the regime has depicted him that is simply not true I have tons of firsthand accounts of ambassadors saying the exact opposite about him he did have a very open mind on certain things but once he found a solution
Starting point is 04:48:23 once he found what he wanted he was extremely stubborn about and so So this is, you know, it's only only occurred to me recently in the last few years that there would be, I hate to use the phrase, a deep state that Nicholas would have had to deal with with this huge number of Jews that were taking advantage in these four years of Russian boys, you know, student age going away and they would be able to take over the legal profession almost entirely. Shutting down that debate meant we don't want it was going to happen. We don't want to talk about it. And it took one peasant, just like Rasputin, it took one peasant to come in and say, we're not going to, we're not going to deal with this. We're not going to accept this, no matter what you do.
Starting point is 04:49:10 The peasants were always, even most of the old believers, a good chunk of the old believers, accepted Nicholas over any possible Masonic Republic and certainly over any atheistic, atheistic system. So our world would be almost inconceivable. had these two massive, seismically powerful events never occurred. I guess we start the next episode on getting into February and then we go beyond there. But, I mean, it's funny. I remember years ago calling somebody a Menshevik, and a buddy of mine just goes, why don't you just call them a Jew?
Starting point is 04:50:01 I don't like, well, I mean, it's like, well, it's what the painful part of it. The painful part of February was that you had a huge chunk of the military establishment, high-rankered, and they're not soldiers, but generals who were scheming against Nicholas. And the acceptance of this by a huge portion of the Orthodox Church, which is an outrage to me. You did have a few loyal bishops. If you buy my book, I have all their names in there. And all there are the Russian language sources. I get all this from.
Starting point is 04:50:41 And I forget exactly the title of the book, the main title, off the top of my head. But it comes from his diary, you know, surrounded by frauds and deceit or something like that. and he absolutely was a lot of good rulers are like that keep in mind through all of this that Russia was not doing badly wasn't even doing badly in the war
Starting point is 04:51:09 Austria-Hungary was on its last legs Turkey certainly Germany was in serious trouble but given the size of Russia it had a lot more people to deal with it was tougher to get things to the front and everything but those problems were solved a few years in But, you know, February, it was a socialist movement, it was a Masonic movement, but I think it existed largely to pave the way for the Reds.
Starting point is 04:51:39 It didn't seem have, you know, remember many of the generals in the white armies were fighting for the Karenski government. That's, you know, they weren't all monarchists. The white movement was, you know, the provisional government movement. You had some people who were loyal to them. And some people who weren't, you had plenty of monarchists of groups within it, of course. Cornelov was an obvious case, so he was not loyal to Karinsky. But part of their problem was their utter refusal to come up with a cohesive political program. The left had one, and that's a huge reason why they were eventually able to motivate other than, you know, if you retreat, you get shot,
Starting point is 04:52:27 which is a Soviet tactic a Trotskyite tactic that they eventually came they came out victorious and I'll be saying this until the day I die the white armies never got a penny they never got a bullet they never got a tray
Starting point is 04:52:48 they never got anything from the Western powers the Reds did on a regular basis when the British left the Baltics they intervened to defend the Baltics and when they left they threw all their supplies into the ocean
Starting point is 04:53:11 the French and the South they sold on credit all their leftover supplies to the Bolsheviks on credit nothing they did nothing for them and i am sick and tired of people believing that the western powers were anti-communist i mean you know there was certainly anti-russian violently anti-russian but they were never anti-communists under any circumstances all right until we start chapter 13 in a couple of days
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Starting point is 04:54:03 Thank you very much, my friend. I want to welcome everyone back to part 57 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. What's new, Dr. Johnson? Well, I had to give my daily nationalist in a little bit early Radio Albion needed it early this week.
Starting point is 04:54:25 They rarely asked for that, but I just did it. And it was on something that irritates the hell out of me, and it's that constant prediction of World War III. I can't read an article anywhere that doesn't have some mention of it, that it's coming. Every little thing that happens, World War III is coming. It never happens. And they've been saying this for decades,
Starting point is 04:54:48 and I finally did an entire hour-long show on it and why it's nonsense and the purpose of it all and it's just something I read I can't read an article that doesn't have that in there somewhere it's so transparently meant as almost clickbait you know to get people
Starting point is 04:55:07 to suck people into your narrative somehow I'm just so sick and tired of it so I just did an hour there so we're going to do an hour here so let's see if I could keep it together well yeah I mean I could throw us something out there that you can you can disagree with um i always felt like i always felt like the cold war was world war three as as a as a unit yeah from 45 yeah yeah you know it's global um
Starting point is 04:55:36 but you know marxism was never the the target the u.s and and the soviets did as where we're cooperating as much as anything else you remember the west created the ussr the West created its industrial base and then recreated it after World War II. There was a point where it just simply got too large. And, you know, with the fall of China, and that caused some problems. But Marxism was never the issue. You know, Marxism was one of the official ideologies of the Western regime. So that was never the issue.
Starting point is 04:56:14 It was definitely anti-Russian, though, which is a totally different story. All right. New chapter, chapter 13, the February Revolution. The 123-year-old history of unequal citizenship of the Jewish people in Russia from the act of Catherine the Great in 1791 ended with the February Revolution. It bears looking into the atmosphere of those February days. What was the state of society by the moment of emancipation? There were no newspapers during the first week of the revolutionary events in Petrograd. And then they began trumpeting, not looking for the ways to rebuild the state, but vying with each other in denouncing all the things of the past.
Starting point is 04:56:59 In an unprecedented gesture, the newspaper of the Constitutional Democrats, cadets, Retch announced that from now on all Russian life must be rebuilt from the roots. A thousand year life, why all of a sudden from the roots? And the stock market news announced a program of action. Yank yank all these weeds out. No need to worry that there might be some useful plants among them is better to weed them all even at the price of unavoidable innocent victims. Was this really March 1917 or March 1937? The new minister of foreign affairs, Milukov,
Starting point is 04:57:37 bowed and scraped. Up to now, we blushed in front of our allies because of our government. Russia was a dead wait for our allies. Well, keep in mind, this comment, proves it that this is as revolutionary as anything else. A revolution is by definition when everything socially is torn out from its roots and remain on a different foundation.
Starting point is 04:58:00 That's what a revolution is. Where no stone is left unturned. A new ban is going to be created. People don't pay as much attention to the Kerensky revolution as they do. The Bolsheviks for obvious reasons. Kerensky, well, highly Masonic and leftists, didn't really have a unifying ideology behind it.
Starting point is 04:58:22 They were still willing to fight World War I. They were still in the middle of it. This certainly pleased the Entente, French and the British. But because it didn't have much of an ideology, it didn't last. That wasn't the problem with the Bolsheviks. It didn't take long for this to collapse entirely. but it seems that this revolution was necessary for the Bolshekine to take place because they did do a lot of damage.
Starting point is 04:58:57 They also, though, released a lot of responsibilities, as I said before in these investigations, which the Karenski government commissioned, that the Tsarist government was a just one, that all their claims against it weren't real. The corruption was almost non-existent. and they say this. I mean, you know, this is one of the reasons that London had a big problem with them.
Starting point is 04:59:23 Their investigative commissions backfired entirely to the extent that they were honest, and they had access to far more stuff than we do. And as I said before, the abdication was forged. It wasn't a real thing. It wasn't by Nicholas at all. It was written by some of his generals. He was surrounded by people who wanted him gone. and the most depressing things I said before
Starting point is 04:59:50 is that a huge portion of the bishop of the church accepted this as somehow from God that the Masonic Revolution is somehow part of God's plan and it was not it was an evil matter this government had no more legitimacy than the Soviet one did things changed a little bit
Starting point is 05:00:08 in October of this year but it was depressing to see how many people signed on to this revolution within the church itself And I have written about this at great length, and the handful of royalist bishops that remained did speak up against it, but they were a small minority. It was extremely, that's one of those depressing parts of this whole thing. Rarely in those beginning days was it possible to hear reasonable suggestions about rebuilding Russia. The streets of PetroGyde were in chaos. The police were non-functional and all over the city.
Starting point is 05:00:44 there was continuous disorderly gunfire. But everything poured into a general rejoicing, though for every concrete question, there was a mess of thoughts and opinions, a cacophony of debating pens. All the press and society agreed on one thing, the immediate legislative enactment of Jewish equality. Fyodor Soliogob eloquently wrote in the Bergevier Vedamosti,
Starting point is 05:01:09 the most essential beginning of the civil freedom, without which our land cannot be blessed, The people cannot be righteous. National achievements would not be sanctified. Is the repeal of all religious and racial restrictions. You know, I've read Soligob many times. He came to regret this, these statements. There were as many people mourning it as were excited by it.
Starting point is 05:01:34 But it's hilarious to see that the one thing, the sole reason or the sole object that they agreed on was about the Jews. it's only the only group that ever benefited from this were the Jews and this would culminate of course in October the equality of Jews advanced very quickly the March 1st one day before the abdication a few hours before the infamous order number one which pushed the army to collapse v. Makulikov and M. Ajimov two commissars of the Duma committee delegated to the Ministry of Justice. Justice had issued an internal ministry of justice directive ordering to enlist all Jewish
Starting point is 05:02:16 assistance to attorneys at law into the Guild of Judicial Attorneys. Already by the 3rd of March, the chairman of the state Duma, M. Rozyonko, and the prime minister of the provisional government, Prince G. Levov, signed a declaration which stated that one of the main goals in the new government is a repeal of all restrictions based upon religion, nationality, and social class. Then on the 4th of March, the defense minister Gukov proposed to open a path for the Jews to become military officers, and the Ministry of Education, Malianov, proposed to repeal the percentage quota on the Jews. Both proposals were accepted without obstacles. On the 6th of March, the Minister of Trade and Manufacturing, Konovolov started to eliminate national restrictions in corporative legislation, that is, a repeal of the law for. permitting purchase of land by companies with Jewish executives. And you read this, you start to realize that this whole thing really was about the Jews and that the generals and the high-level bureaucrats that were part of the overthrow of
Starting point is 05:03:28 Zard Nicholas either owed them money or were somehow in business with them somehow. from here on in Russia, even as it's sunk within the Soviet Union a bit later, never reached its previous output in terms of agricultural goods or anything else. It never reached the levels of the Soviet, sorry, of the Russian Empire, right up until World War I. the workers were treated infinitely better, infinitely better than they were under the USSR because the Soviet Union had nothing to do with the labor or the proletarian. That was just a convenient excuse. And, of course, it was so heavily Jewish.
Starting point is 05:04:17 But this was a necessary step. The Jews were so organized already. They very quickly took advantage of this. And regardless of any debates over this stuff, and these guys were going to regret this. There's so many of the people who signed on to the February revolution were either murdered or were forced to flee in October, realizing what they had done. Oh, and I should mention order number one. That was the so-called reform of the army, which came from Kerensky. It tried to eliminate ranks. This is in the middle of World War I. Soldiers didn't
Starting point is 05:04:57 have to listen to officers. They had these soldiers, committees that took the place of officers. It destroyed morale. This led to the Cornelov revolt, which got pushed him into the opposition. Of course, he was one of the leaders of the white armies during the Civil War. So order number one was a complete disaster. I think it was meant to be a complete disaster.
Starting point is 05:05:22 And to do something this stupid in the midst of a war like World War I, just shows you how this was a suicide pact and the Jews were this wasn't nearly as Jewish as the October Revolution was but it certainly benefited them as much but it allowed them just enough time to build their positions
Starting point is 05:05:44 so as to be the four the main backers of the Leninist Revolution just a few months later these measures were quickly put into practice by March 8th in Mosul in Moscow, 110 Jewish assistance were raised to the status of attorneys at law. By March 9th, in Petrograd, 124 such Jews. By the 8th of March in Odessa, 60.
Starting point is 05:06:10 On the 9th of March, the city Duma of Kiev, not waiting for the upcoming elections, included in its body five Jews with voting power. Can you imagine this? They were just being put into power. They were just being thrust into positions of power because that's how powerful they were. They weren't elected. They were just placed into the city of Duma. In Kiev, of course, there were many Jews there. So this was a massive windfall for the Jews in general. But this is no shock. This is what they always do when they get power. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:06:44 And here, on March 20 at the provisional government made a resolution prepared by the Minister of Justice, A. Kerensky, with the participation of members of the Political Bureau of Jewish deputies in the fourth state Duma, legislated an act published on March 22nd that repealed all restrictions on the rights of Russian citizens, regardless of religious creed, dogma, or nationality. This was, in essence, the first broad legislative act of the provisional government. At the request of the political bureaus of Jewish deputies, the Jews were not specially mentioned in the resolution.
Starting point is 05:07:21 Yeah, that was a way to sneak this in, talking about, you know, a vague thing, regardless of religious creed, nationality, whatever, this solely had to do with the Jews. And the Jews were the ones that said, make sure you state it that way. There's no more resentment towards us. But I think many people understood. But in order to repeal all the restrictions on Jews and all of our laws in order to uproot completely the inequality of the Jews, G.B. Slausberg recalls, it was necessary to make a complete list of all the restrictions. And the coalition of the list of laws to be repealed required great thoroughness and experience. This task was undertaken by Sliosberg and L.M. Bramson. The Jewish Encyclopedia says, quote, the act listed the
Starting point is 05:08:06 statutes of Russian law that were being abolished by the act. Almost all those statutes, there were nearly 150, contained some or other anti-Jewish restrictions. Subject to repeal were, in part, all prescriptions connected to the pale of settlement, thereby its factual liquidation in 1915 was legally validated. The restrictions were removed layer by layer, travel, habitation, educational institutions, participations in local self-government, the right to acquire property anywhere in Russia, participation in government contracts, from stock exchanges, hiring servants, workers, and stewards of a different religion, the right to occupy high positions in the government and military service, guardianship, and trusteeship. Recalling a cancellation of
Starting point is 05:08:50 an agreement with the United States, they repealed similar restrictions on foreign who are not at war with the Russian government, mainly in reference to Jews coming from the United States. These were the people who then eventually were the backers of the October Revolution later, just proving that those who were claiming to represent the proletariat had no connection with them whatsoever. These were wealthy merchants, either from the payroll of settlement or elsewhere, who were building their fortunes
Starting point is 05:09:24 and who needed a purely Jewish government or almost purely Jewish government to maintain none of these people were dispossessed by the Soviets we talked about that with the Lena Goldmines the Ginsburg, whatever his name was who was just given a different position equally powerful within the Soviet system
Starting point is 05:09:42 these are the people who ran the Soviet system now it's true some of them were not happy with it some of them were exiled it's true but this was the building up of Jewish power, and regardless of whether it was state-run or in this case private organizations after the October Revolution, many of them maintain their powers just with a different title. The promulgation of the act inspired many emotional speeches. Deputy Friedman of the state Duma asserted, for the past 35 years the Jews have been subjected to oppression and humiliation,
Starting point is 05:10:17 unheard of and unprecedented, even the history of our long-suffering people. All of it was the result of state-sponsored anti-Semitism. Attorney O.O. Grusenberg stated, If the pre-revolution Russian government was a vast and monstrous prison, then its most stinking, terrible cell, its torture chamber was carted away for us, the six million Jewish people. And for the first time the Jewish child learned about the usurious term interest in the state school, like hard labor camp prisoners on their way to kin,
Starting point is 05:10:51 All Jews were chained together as despised aliens. The drops of blood of our fathers and mothers, the drops of blood of our sisters and brothers fell on our soul. They're igniting and enlivening the unextinguishable revolutionary fire. This typical neurotic overreaction, Oscar Grusenberg, if we remember, was the main defense attorney in the Belize case. Jews were just the opposite. They were always a privileged, extremely wealthy, and powerful part of the Russian Empire, at least from the time they became part of that empire in the late 18th century when Poland was, parts of Poland were absorbed. But to talk like this, no one in their right mind could believe it.
Starting point is 05:11:43 But in the West, especially in the English language countries written in the U.S. in Canada, this was taken as truth. And this is why any opposition to this revolution was despised by the Western governments. And in opposition to order number one, Kournilov, and eventually became the white armies, roughly at the time when the October Revolution took place and civil war started. Again, part of the reason why the Western governments didn't give a penny to these people, because many of them were in opposition to Kerenzky, even though technically the white armies were the provisional government's armed forces.
Starting point is 05:12:24 But after order number one, they weren't. They weren't necessarily monarchists either, although you didn't have plenty of monarchist units. But for the very same reason, but the provisional government didn't last long, the white army itself never really had any unity in terms of what its future for Russia was going to be if they won. and that cost them dearly.
Starting point is 05:12:47 Rosa Georgievina the wife of Vinaver recalls. The events of the March of the 1917 Revolution coincided with the Jewish Passover. It looked like this was a second escape from Egypt. Such a long, long path of suffering and struggle has passed and how quickly everything had happened. A large Jewish meeting was called, at which Milikov spoke.
Starting point is 05:13:10 At last, a shameful spot has been washed away from Russia, which can now bravely step into the ranks of civilized nations. Venevar proposed to the gathering to build a large Jewish public house in Petrograd in memory of the meeting, which was to be called the House of Freedom. I guess there weren't any, I guess, what would you call that, the first Holocaust Memorial kind of? Yeah, something like that. They've already mentioned the six million. They've been talking about that number for a very long time.
Starting point is 05:13:43 Three members of the state, Duma, M. Bomash, E. Gurevich, and N. Friedman published an open letter to the Jewish people. That now, our military misfortunes could deal grave damage to the still infirm free Russia. Free Jewish warriors will draw new strength for the ongoing struggle with the tenfold energy extending the great feet of arms. And here was the natural plan. The Jewish people should quickly reorganize their society. The long, obsolete forms of our communal life must be renewed on the free, democratic principles. I'm not sure what he means there in that last sentence.
Starting point is 05:14:19 That reminds me a little bit of what eventually became the Soviets. I don't know if there's, I think there might be an indirect connection there at least. But I love how they define civilized as how they treat the Jews. Jews are the marker of whether a country is civilized or not. I don't know what a large public house is. This was just a museum of sorts. It was simply a publicly financed temple to the Jews, in essence. They also defined the word freedom as whether or not the Jews were showing you that their voice was the only voice here.
Starting point is 05:14:59 And people who knew what the Jews were all about were increasingly fearful of saying anything, lest they were forced to be free in one way or another. the author journalist David Isman responded to the act with an outcry our motherland our father land they are in trouble with all our hearts we will defend our land not since the defense of the temple has there been such a sacred feat of arms you see it's hilarious because now the czar's gone therefore it's a Jewish society that's exactly what the lifting of the restrictions means yeah it's ours now yeah and so we're going to fight for it well not really they're just going to support it more and from the memoirs of sliosburg the great fortunes who have lived to see the day of declaration of emancipation of Jews in Russia and the elimination
Starting point is 05:15:51 of our lack of rights everything I have fought for with all my strength over the course of three decades did not fill me with the joy as it should have been because the collapse had begun right away and 70 years later one Jewish author expressed doubts to quote Did that formal legislative act really changed the situation in the country where all legal norms were precipitously losing their power?
Starting point is 05:16:16 Many Jews, I shouldn't say maybe even a majority, but some of these people realize now the economy is in trouble. Now the currency is in trouble. The banking system's in trouble. Yeah, they could loot, you know, they could asset strip. It was easier now for foreign companies to invest in Russia. but without the monarchy and without the social trust that goes into an economy
Starting point is 05:16:42 no one really knew what the agenda of the your ordinary person didn't know what the agenda of Kerensky really was and so a lot of confidence in the economy was lost so a handful of these guys started realizing maybe we shouldn't be all that happy about this we answer in hindsight from great distance one should not downplay the significance of what was achieved then the act suddenly and dramatically improved the situation of the Jews
Starting point is 05:17:07 as for the rest of the country falling with all its people into an abyss that was the unpredictable way of history i don't think it was unpredictable at all yes and that i've been talked about for some time the most abrupt and notable change occurred in the judiciary if earlier the the batutions commission on bribery investigated the business of the obvious crook d rubinstein now the situation became reverse the case against Rubinstein was dropped, and Rubenstein paid a visit to the extraordinary investigatory committee in the Winter Palace and successfully demanded prosecution of the Batyushin's commission itself. Indeed, in March, 1917, they arrested General
Starting point is 05:17:55 Batushin, Colonel Rezanov, and other investigators. The investigation of activities of this commission began in April, and as it turned out, the extortion of bribes from the bankers and sugar factory owners by them was apparently significant. Then the safes of Volga Kama, Siberian, and Junker Banks previously sealed up by Batushin were unsealed in all the documents returned to the banks. Seminovich and Manus were not so lucky. When Seminovich was arrested as Secretary to Rasputin, he offered 15,000 rubles to the prison convoy guards if they would let him make a phone call.
Starting point is 05:18:33 yet the request was, of course, turned down. As for Manus, suspected of being involved in shady dealings with the German agent Kulashenko, he battled the counterintelligence agents who came for him by shooting through his apartment door. After his arrest, he fled the country. The situation in the extraordinary investigatory commission of the provincial government can be manifestly traced by records of interrogation at late March. Proto Popov, who asked how, how he was. he came to be appointed to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and in response, he mentioned the
Starting point is 05:19:09 directive issued by him. The residence rights of Jews were significantly expanded in Moscow. Asked about the priorities of his ministry, he first recalled the foodstuffs affair, and after that the progressive issue, the Jewish question. The director of the Department of Police, A.T. Vasiliev didn't miss an opportunity to inform the interrogators that he helped defend the sugar factory were owners, Jews. Grusenberg called me in the morning in my apartment and thanked me for my cooperation. Rosenberg visited me to thank me for my efforts on his behalf. In this way, the accused tried to get some leniency for themselves. This is another reason why you had some powerful Jews increasingly disillusioned with February, because the one good thing that occurred
Starting point is 05:19:59 in this period was the investigative commissions they were going through records in an open manner and all the stuff that Jews had been doing all the bribes, all the corruption was now made clear. This wouldn't have happened if the Zarkin or some other government existed.
Starting point is 05:20:19 At least they were honest about this. Now they exonerated the monarchy but the same time they did that they almost despite themselves, almost by accident, were uncovering scandal after scandal after scandal. The food stuff incident had to do with, you know, charging all this money for the army. In other words, a lot of this stuff showed the reason
Starting point is 05:20:45 why Jews were restricted to the extent that they were restricted at all, why they were removed from the front and things like that. It really was, it wasn't really predicted. It was kind of an accident when this, you know, they weren't going to repress this stuff. Those at the investigative commission were told to be as open as possible. And that ended up being a huge mistake. Again, part of the reason why October had to happen.
Starting point is 05:21:08 This became intolerable to them. A notable aspect of the weeks of March was an energetic pursuit of known or suspected Judeoophobes. Oh, no. I am so shocked. The first one arrested on February 27th was the Minister of Justice. He was accused of personally giving the order to unjustly pursue the case against Baylis. In subsequent days, the Bayliss accusers, the prosecutor, Vipper, and Senator Sheplinsky were also arrested. However, they were not charged with anything specific, and in May
Starting point is 05:21:44 1917, Vipper was merely dismissed from his position as the chief prosecutor of the criminal department of the Senate. His fate was sealed later by the Bolsheviks. The court investigator Mashkevich was ordered to resign, for during the bailist trial, he had sanctioned not only expert witness testimony against the argument on the ritual murder, but he also allowed a second expert testimony arguing for the case of such murder. The Minister of Justice Karenski requested transfer of all materials of the Bayliss case from the Kiev Regional Court, planning a loud retrial, but during the stormy course of 1917, that didn't happen. The chairman of the union of the Russian people, Dimitri Dubrovin, was arrested and his archive was seized. The publishers of the far right newspaper Glinka Janshefsky and Poliubovina were arrested too.
Starting point is 05:22:40 The bookstores of the monarchist union were simply burnt down. Any concept of the rule of law was gone. This is what a revolution does. When a revolution says it's going to rip up everything by the roots. But what's the status of law in this case? And to the extent that people got used to this kind of thing, it just made the Bolshevik case more easier for it. So the attacks and the physical assault, these people were arrested, not for any particular charge. They were punished very briefly under the provisionals, and the Soviets ended up killing them if they didn't get out
Starting point is 05:23:15 on time. But burning down bookstores and this kind of thing, this happened long before, or at least you know, roughly just a little bit less than a year before the Bolsheviks took over. So there's nothing specific about the Bolsheviks. This was a Jewish government as much as a Leninists were. That's what the provisional government was. Solzhenitsyn's argument is that this was not the liberation of the Jews, but that both revolutions were increasingly permitting Jews to take over the country. country, and to destroy any concept of the rule of law whatsoever?
Starting point is 05:23:55 I don't think it's odd that whenever Jews basically take control of the government, whether it's obvious or not, whether it's behind the scenes, or whether it is flagrant like this, that the rule of law disappears. We haven't had rule of law in the United States for a very long time. Sure. That's right. For two weeks, yeah, yeah. For two weeks, they hunted the fugitives and mark.
Starting point is 05:24:21 and Zemzlovsky doing nightly searches for two weeks in St. Petersburg, Kiev, and Kursk. Zemislovsky was hunted for his participation in the case against Belis, and Markov, obviously, for his speeches in the Senate Duma. At the same time, they didn't touch Pradeshkevich, one assumes because of his revolutionary speeches in the Duma and his participation in the murder of Rasputin. An ugly rumor arose as Stolipin took part in the murder of Yolos and in Kremlinchuk, a street that had previously been named after Stolipen was renamed after Yolos. Over all of Russia, there were hundreds of arrests, either because of their former positions
Starting point is 05:25:08 or even because of their former attitudes. You know, I talked about Poroskiewicz before. he still has this reputation as a right winger but he came to be accepted by the provisional government partially because of his murder of Rasputin and that as time went on he just went along with whoever was in power
Starting point is 05:25:30 as the monicus government showed signs of cracking he started all of a sudden became a revolutionary he wasn't the sort of he wasn't a slavophile some of those people were just opportunistic whoever was in power they were going to support and people were being arrested solely for any and you see the Belis case
Starting point is 05:25:54 terrified the Jews we've heard it's like three or four times just in a couple paragraphs that anyone involved in the prosecution even though he wasn't prosecuted for ritual murder because there was no such law
Starting point is 05:26:10 because there was a rule of law under the under the monarchy, just for murder. And it was the Jews themselves. It was the person we've already spoken to. Oscar, what's his name, Guzenberg, who demanded that the ritual murder thing be used in his defense. Not Margar, not any of these people,
Starting point is 05:26:30 not any of the prosecutors. The Belize case was so terrifying to them that the minute they had power, these people were targeted. They should have gotten out of there as soon as possible. But again, I don't think, Since the newspapers were in such a disarray, I'm not sure if they were aware what was going on around them, at least in the early few weeks. It should be noted that the announcement of Jewish equality did not cause a single pogrom.
Starting point is 05:26:57 It is worth noticing only for the comparison to 1905, but also because all through March and April, all major newspapers were constantly reporting the preparation of pogroms and that somewhere the programs had already supposedly begun. Rumors started on March 5th that somewhere either in Kiev or Poltava province, Jewish pogroms were brewing, and someone in Petrograd put up a handwritten anti-Jewish flyer. As a result, the Executive Committee of Soviet Workers and Soldiers deputies formed a special visiting commission, led by Raffes, Alexandrovich, and Sukhanov. Their task was to delegate commissars to various towns with the first priority to go, into the regions where the black hundreds, the servants of the old regime, are trying to sow ethnic antagonism among the population.
Starting point is 05:27:51 In the newspaper, Izvestia S-R-S-D, Soviet workers and soldiers' deputies, there was an article incitement to Pogrom, quote, it would be a huge mistake, tantam out to a crime to close our eyes to a new attempt of the overthrown dynasty, because it is them who organized the trouble monarchists. In Kiev and Poltava provinces, among the underdeveloped backwards classes of the population at the moment, there is an incitement against Jews. Jews are blamed for the defeats of our army, for the revolutionary movement in Russia, and for the fall of the monarchy. It's an old trick, but all the more dangerous because of its timing. It is necessary to quickly take decisive measures against the pogrom and instigators. After this, the commander of the
Starting point is 05:28:37 military district general Kodorovic issued an order. All military units are to be on high alert and be ready to prevent possible anti-Jewish riots. This was in the middle of the war, and they were mobilizing military forces solely to protect the Jews. Now, no one was saying that the defeats of the army, I mean, there were as many victories as defeats, by the way, but the Jews did leave the revolutionary movement in Russia and cause the fall on the monarchy in many ways it's not a trick
Starting point is 05:29:10 it was true they just didn't want this coming out and I think because of how the news was being to the extent it existed at all you know they're inventing stories of programs yet again I don't think some of these people knew what was happening they should have gotten out
Starting point is 05:29:28 some of them did some of them were able to join the whites during the Civil War and eventually went into exile Unfortunately, some didn't move that quickly. This clearly was a Jewish movement in February as much as it was in October. Anybody who said anything about the Jews, even under the February Revolution, was targeted. And this was given the same priority as the war, the massive war that they were involved in at the same time.
Starting point is 05:29:59 That shows you the obsession and the dominance of the Jews and the high-level Freemasons in this time. Long after this, but still in April, in various newspapers, every two or three days they publish rumors of preparations for Jewish pogroms, or at the very least about moving of piles of program literature by railroads. Yet the most stubborn rumors circulated about a coming pogrom in Kisheniv. That was to happen at the end of March, right between the Jewish and Russian Orthodox Passover's, as happened in 1903. And there were many more such alarming press reports. One even said that the police in Mogulov was preparing a pogrom near the headquarters of Supreme High Command. Not one of these proved to be true. One need only get acquainted with the facts of those months to immerse oneself in the whole February atmosphere
Starting point is 05:30:54 of the defeated right and the triumphant left of the stupor and confusion of the common folk to dismiss outright any realistic possibility of anti-Jewish pogroms. But how could ordinary Jewish residents of Kiev or Odessa forget those horrible days 12 years before? Their apprehension, their weary caution to any motion in that direction was absolutely understandable. If the press was irresponsible before, now it's tripled and quadrupled. They were making up stories. They were saying whatever they could to justify the destruction of anyone on the right wing, right wing being defined as monarchist. anti-Kazar, anti-Judaic,
Starting point is 05:31:39 Slavophile, etc. The only nationalists that was permitted was Jewish. And so making up stories of pogroms, which were iffy in the first place, of the six million Jews that were allegedly in Russia at the time, that justified then, within the few weeks, still in April. This is, you know, two months.
Starting point is 05:32:02 this was a priority of the system proving again this was a Jewish-led movement it benefited the Jews more than anybody else and they were a huge part of it and yet still this was the priority of the state while they were involved in World War I and of course later on the Bolsheviks were going to pull their government out of World War I
Starting point is 05:32:28 which irritated some people but remember order number one did completely disintegrate the army not because the army was a problem or anything like that but order number one and the endless propaganda now from the provisional government two soldiers that you don't have to listen to your officers anymore you can shoot them whenever you want
Starting point is 05:32:49 and we also know that these the pogrom literature was written by the Jews themselves this was a huge part of their and the same thing happens today of course The well-informed newspapers were a different story. The alarms raised by the newspapers by enlightened leaders of the liberal camp and half-baked socialist intellectuals. One cannot call this anything except political provocation. Provocation, however, that fortunately didn't work.
Starting point is 05:33:17 One actual episode occurred in the Bessarabian Bazaar in Kiev on April 28th. A girl stole a piece of ribbon in a Jewish shop and ran away. The store clerk caught up to her and began to beat her. crowd rushed to lynch the clerk and the store owner, but the police defended them. In another incident in the Rogoshevsky district, people angered by exorbitant prices smashed to stores, including Jewish ones. This is what emancipation meant. I mean, to a great extent, they were free before.
Starting point is 05:33:50 They were still a wealthy and, to say the least pampered minority. But now without the monarchy and without the social unity, that the monarchy and the church even created. Now they could do whatever they want. And they were so well organized and so heavily armed, they could defend themselves. But they didn't even have to, because under Kerensky,
Starting point is 05:34:13 the police were there to support them. The very fact that a Jew can run after a girl and be there, the confidence that nothing's going to happen to me, including people won't even bother because our revolution has already occurred, it shows you what they thought about it. And this is just an ordinary, ordinary peddler. Where and by whom was the Jewish emancipation met with hostility?
Starting point is 05:34:41 Those were our legendary revolutionary Finland and our powerful ally, Romania. In Finland, as we learned in Chapter 10 from Jabotinsky, the Jews were forbidden to reside permanently, and since 1858, only descendants of Jewish soldiers who served here in Finland during the Crimean War were allowed to settle. The passport law of 1862 confirmed that Jews were forbidden entry into Finland and temporary habitation at the discretion of a local governor. The Jews could not become Finnish citizens.
Starting point is 05:35:11 In order to get married, a Jew had to go to Russia. The rights of Jews to testify in Finnish courts were restricted. Several attempts to mitigate the restriction of the civil rights of the Jews in Finland were not successful. And now, with the advent of Jewish equal rights in Russia, Finland, not having yet announced its complete independence from Russia, did not legislate Jewish equality. Moreover, they were deporting Jews who had illegally moved to Finland, and not in a day, but in an hour, on the next train out. One such case on March 16th caused quite a splash in the Russian press. But Finland was always extolled for helping the revolutionaries, and liberals and socialists stopped short of criticizing her.
Starting point is 05:35:53 Only the Bund sent a wire to very influential Finnish socialists, reprimanding them that this medieval law was still not repealed. The Bund, the party of the Jewish proletariat, expresses strong certainty that you will take out the shameful stain from the free Finland. However, in this certainty, the boon was mistaken. Remember, Finland was, the way the Russian Empire was structured, certain nations were freer than others. It's just dependent on circumstances. Poland and Finland had their own constitutions. Yeah, there was an appointed governor with very limited powers.
Starting point is 05:36:32 Finland was essentially independent, but technically was a part of the Russian Empire. But there weren't that many Jews in Finland. Ones that were there were looked at with hostility. This may have influenced foreign policy in Finland in the following decades, but because that they were allowed great independence under the monarchy and Judaism really didn't have a huge base there they didn't control the press or anything else that weren't going to fall for the nonsense of the Kerensky
Starting point is 05:37:07 a revolution in essence Finland was now an independent country at least de facto but they knew enough about the problem that they weren't propaganda they weren't subject to the same propaganda that Russians were. And this was one bright spot in the entire thing. Because Finland had a reputation, like, you know, the Vyborg, you know, exile duo members went there in Finland to
Starting point is 05:37:34 condemn the monarchy, as we talked about before. It had a good reputation among revolutionaries, so people were split as to whether to condemn them or not. They were Finnish socialists, but they were of a very different sort than you had in Russia. It's a very different society there and they were isolated enough
Starting point is 05:37:57 from the Jewish problem but not so much they didn't understand what was really going on, especially after the revolution. So Free Finland was de facto but again
Starting point is 05:38:10 here's more proof that they define freedom as to whether or not Jews can dominate the society. That's what freedom is. Shameful stain on Free Finland but to the extent that Finland was ever really a part of the Russian Empire they were but they were almost completely independent to their detriment as it turns out and a huge alarm was raised in the post-February press
Starting point is 05:38:35 about the persecution of Jews in Romania they wrote that in Jassy it was even forbidden to speak Yiddish at public meetings the all-Russian Zionist student congress Gekover proposed to passionately protest the civil inequality of Jews in Romania and Finland, which is humiliating to the world Jewry and demeaning to worldwide democracy. I mean, they take, they're in power for five minutes, and they're already meddling in other countries.
Starting point is 05:39:06 You know, I mean, I understand Finland, Finland, but Romania, I mean, this is why people like A. Z. Koo, we know the name A.C. C. C. C. I mean, they just, why that whole movement developed in the first place. At that time, Romania was weakened by major military defeats. So the Prime Minister Bratianu was making excuses in Petrograd in April saying that most of the Jews in Romania migrated there from Russia. And in particular, that prompted Romanian government to limit the political rights of Jews. He promised equality soon. However, in May, we read, in fact, nothing is happening in that direction.
Starting point is 05:39:47 In May, the Romanian communist Rakovsky, reported that the situation of the Jews in Romania is unbearable. They ran the universities at this time. And the economy. The Jews were blamed for the military defeat of the country. They were accused of fraternizing with Germans in the occupied parts of the country. If the Romanian government was not afraid to anger their allies in the Entente, then one would fear for the very lives of the Jews.
Starting point is 05:40:17 I guess Romania wasn't large. enough or significant enough to, same with Finland, to get the same treatment that a huge country like Russia would. Jews were extremely obnox. They were very much like they were in the old Polish Empire in Romania.
Starting point is 05:40:33 They dominated trade. They dominated the universities. And this is why the early, you know, Iron Guard movements were founded. Not too long after this. And Jews in Romania were getting the idea what was happening in Russia.
Starting point is 05:40:49 means that we could do the same thing here, and the Romanian government wasn't going to, the monarchy wasn't going to tolerate it. But it didn't get the attention that the Russians would, or the Ukrainians would, because it was relatively small and didn't play a massive role in Russian military effort. The worldwide response among the Allies of the February Revolution was expressed in a tone of deep satisfaction, even ecstasy among many. But in this response, there was also a short-sighted calculation that now Russia will become invincible in war. In Great Britain, in the USA, there were large meetings in support of the Revolution and the rights of the Jews. I wrote about some of these
Starting point is 05:41:35 responses in March 1917 in chapters 510 and 621. From America, they offered to send a copy of the statue of liberty to Russia. Yet, as a situation in Russia continues to deteriorate, they never got around to the statue. On March 9th in the House of Commons of the British Parliament, the Minister of Foreign Affairs was asked a question about the situation of the Jews in Russia. Does he plan to consult with the Russian government regarding guarantees to the Russian Jews for the future and reparations of the past? You imagine. You imagine the arrogance. The answer showed the full trust that the British government had for the new Russian government.
Starting point is 05:42:18 From Paris, the president of the international Jewish Union congratulated Prince Levov and Levovov answered, from today onward liberated Russia will be able to respect the fates and customs of all its people, forever bound by a common religion of love of their homeland. People actually were saying this stuff and believing it. The newspapers Berevch and many others reported on the sympathies of Jacob Schiff, a well-known leader of North American circles that are hostile to Russia. He wrote, I was always the enemy of Russian absolutism,
Starting point is 05:42:57 which mercilessly persecuted my co-religionists. Now let me congratulate the Russian people for this act, which they committed so perfectly. And now he invites the new Russia to conduct broad, credit operations in America. Indeed, at the time, he provided substantial credit to the Karenski government. Later, in emigration, the exiled Russian right-wing press published investigative reports attempting to show that Schiff actively financed the revolution itself.
Starting point is 05:43:30 Perhaps Schiff shared the same short-sighted Western hope that the liberal revolution in Russia would strengthen Russia in the war. Still, the known and public access Schiff, who has, has. who had always been hostile to Russian absolutism had even greater effect than any possible secret assistance to such a revolution. We have to decode some of this. By Russian absolutism, he's referring to not just the monarchy, but Russian nationalism and orthodoxy in general.
Starting point is 05:44:01 This was a Jewish movement, financed by the same people who then went the next step and were financing the Bolsheviks. and this shows you where their massive financial support for the Bolsheviks came in whether it was to Trotsky or to Lenin and the desire now that they figured the British are saying that this market is now ours we can invest everywhere the Rothschilds were moving in
Starting point is 05:44:31 Russians were going to have any control of their economy and really nothing changed after October except that the war destroyed much of what the communist government had built and then people like Schiff moved in to kind of like Black Rock was supposed to be doing with
Starting point is 05:44:52 Ukraine after the war, which they've backed off from now. They're going to profit massively from rebuilding. So it was the West that created the workers' paradise even after October, even after the Civil War was over. They knew what the Soviets were doing to the peasants, and that to them was no problem. These were the same backward people that they mentioned before, these non-progressive inert elements of the population that could be destroyed. Because after all, since Russia never really produced the food that they were able to produce under the Tsar, never, right up to the very end of the abusive state, it didn't matter whether we had peasants or not, because people like Woodrow Wilson was.
Starting point is 05:45:36 sending in food aid by the ton so we don't really have to worry about that and no one's going to hold them accountable and the press in the West believe whatever they were told about how stupid they believe whatever they were told and that's how it got into the history books to this very day I think we should stop right there
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Starting point is 05:46:40 You know, I lived in Nebraska for like five years. I got my PhD from there. I got a lot of fellowship from there, which is why I ended up out there. Warren Buffett jokes on him. But he paid, he pretty much owns the place. And I saw a news report where there was a steer, a bull, sitting in the passenger seat in Nebraska of a car, the horn sticking out. Of course, it was a convertible truck.
Starting point is 05:47:11 And it got pulled over. You didn't get pulled over for that. It got pulled over for like very minor, like not signaling or something like that. I said, that's perfectly normal for that state. Nebraska is the weirdest state on the planet. I'm sorry, the weirdest state in the country, I guarantee you the weirdest place in the planet.
Starting point is 05:47:29 That's nothing. uh compared to what normally goes on there's a there's a town where they have wooden cutouts of people because they think that would increase the population they have a random a total random chef boy or d statue in omaha it's not even near anything it's just it's just showed up there um warren buffett himself is a nut job wandering around town hoping that someone and shoots them. You know, the whole political situation, you know, no political parties at the state level.
Starting point is 05:48:09 You know, the biggest, the biggest attraction is stonehenens made out of cars. There's a speed limit. There's a speed limit for horses on the, on the six miles an hour. I don't know how well enforced that is. They're not allowed to go on the sidewalk, though. They have,
Starting point is 05:48:27 Budweiser actually made a tomato beer. I don't know if they sell it anywhere else, but it's actually a Budweiser product. But I've seen many years ago in the beer refrigerator, the place, and a lot of states have weird stuff, but Nebraska has a million and a half people. I used to walk by the governor's mansion. I lived like a half a block away from them,
Starting point is 05:48:54 an apartment building. It's just, you know, everyone's, a while you'll see a clown walking in downtown in the in the yellow you know uh lines and no one says anything because you know what it's normal there it just it was one weird weird thing after another there's another town well of course there's it's only town in the country i think now it has a population of one that's benawi the woman uh mrs eyler she's the mayor She is the librarian. She's the bartender.
Starting point is 05:49:34 She actually pays taxes to herself, which is true. And a population of one when her husband died. Manawi's way up north. This is, you know, this kind of thing. No one really looks twice at it. And the museums of weird things, like the Johnson's Museum of the Yard, the Museum of Shadows, all over the place in that state. There is nothing boring about Nebraska.
Starting point is 05:50:03 It is the weirdest place to live ever. It got to the point where, because I used to walk to school, and these Indians would be doing war drums on the newspaper, remember the newspaper machines that used to have. And it got to the point where I didn't even notice it anymore. It was so common. You know, it was just a place where endless weirdness,
Starting point is 05:50:30 would happen and people people didn't natives didn't even give it a second look I had to get used to it you know you never know what you're going to see in anywhere in Nebraska
Starting point is 05:50:44 these towns there's a town that has three statues per person and they're not even a famous people they're of random people the bar of the chef borough did one in Omaha got me let
Starting point is 05:50:58 because it was no It's not like near an Italian restaurant. It was just somewhere. It had no relevance there. And this is normal here. This is perfectly normal here. I'm very proud to have gone to university. The weirdest place, you never knew what was real and what was in your imagination in that state.
Starting point is 05:51:20 All right. Just know that if I stop reading, I'm probably either laughing at clown or statues to nobody's. Right. Very common. I'm going to try and read this. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 05:51:39 If we're ready, I'm going to try and get really serious here. All right. Do your best. I'm super serial here. All right. Picking up where we left off last time. The February Revolution was run by clowns. Okay, no, hold on.
Starting point is 05:51:53 All right, let me start over here. Down the middle of the street on the yellow line with the big shoes. And it weren't in the way of anybody. But I must have seen it maybe 10 times in the five years I was there. Like it was, you know, where's he coming from? Where's you going? There's no circus in town. This is living in, living in Nebraska is, is a, was a bizarre experience.
Starting point is 05:52:22 I had to get there off my chest. Okay. All right. I'm going to try and read. Okay, all right. Here we go. Picking up. Let me see how much of this chapter we have left. I think we might be able to finish us today. Okay. I can't believe we're over 300, page 300. That's incredible.
Starting point is 05:52:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never thought to see you that day. Here we go. Yeah. All right. The February Revolution itself often consciously appealed for support to Jews, an entire nation enslaved. eyewitness testimonies that Russian Jews were very ecstatic about the February Revolution are rife. Well, again, he's tongue-in-cheek here. Obviously, he doesn't think that the entire nation is enslaved.
Starting point is 05:53:13 Unless he's talking about, you know, what came later, you know, but they were never at any point enslaved or even inconvenienced in old Russia or after the February Revolution. yet there are counter witnesses too such as gregory arinson who formed and led the sovietz the soviet of workers deputies of vizk which later had a member which later had as a member y v tarl a future historian he wrote that on the very first day when news of the revolution reached v tepsk the newly formed security council met in the city duma and immediately afterwards arinson was invited to a meeting of representatives of the Jewish community, clearly not rank and file, but leaders. Apparently, quoting, apparently there was a need to consult me as a representative of the new dawning era, what to do further. I felt alienation from these people, from the circle of their interests and from the tense atmosphere, which was at the meeting. I had a sense that the society belonged mostly to the old world, which was retreating into the past. We were not able to eliminate a certain mutual
Starting point is 05:54:25 chill that had come from somewhere. The faces of the people I was working with displayed no uplift or faith. At times it appeared that these selfless social activists perceived themselves as elements of the old order. You know, there was nothing, this was a Masonic revolution. This was like something along the lines of a more radical French revolution. They had honest people. And we talked about the investigative committee who exonerated the monarchy, you know,
Starting point is 05:54:55 So clearly there were honest people there. And maybe that's part of what he's talking about. They weren't willing to lie about it. And they had access to more documents than any of us could ever have. Who knows what's been destroyed in the meantime? But I think that line above, maybe a translation issue, appealing support for Jews by saying that you're an entire nation enslaved. It's not like Jews weren't involved,
Starting point is 05:55:21 but it wasn't an ethnic movement like the Bolsheviks were. But, you know, the immense civics were Marxists of a type, socialists of a type, you know, there were nowhere near Leninism, but they had such ideological diversity that they weren't allowed around long enough to really develop policy. And what they did do had to do with the war. They're in the middle of World War I. So as far as them ruling Russia, you can't really say anything about it. So there was nothing that inspired loyalty about Kerensky or the February bourgeois revolution at all. That is a precise witness account. Such bewilderment, caution and wavering predominated among religiously conservative Jews, one assumes not only a Vitebsk.
Starting point is 05:56:15 The sensible old jury carrying a sense of many centuries of experience of hard ordeals was apparently shocked by the sudden overthrow of the monarchy and had serious misgivings. Yet in the spirit of the 20th century, the dynamic masses of every nation, including Jews, were already secular, not changed to traditions, and very eager to build the happy new world. The Jewish encyclopedia notes a sharp intensification of the political activity of Jewry, noticeably even against a backstorm of stormy social uplift that gripped Russia after February 1917. You know, I've written just a ridiculous amount on this era. I don't even remember half the stuff I've written. My book on the Soviet experiment is mostly early USSR. It was such a complex and difficult era. But one of the things that Lenin said is that, of course, the February Revolution was necessary.
Starting point is 05:57:17 and he said I can almost quote him directly he said nowhere else in the world is there this level of freedom as the Russians have after February 1917 and of course he says
Starting point is 05:57:34 we're going to take advantage of this this is why we can function this is how we can function we're going to take advantage of that and organized and keep in mind there's was never overthrown. It was his own people. These generals who wrote the fake
Starting point is 05:57:53 abdication note, you know, he remained popular consistently. It was part of the reason why you had endless peasant uprisings. The civil war really didn't end in 1921. It ended really in 1945, the German invasion. You know, the German invasion actually took part in what was already an ongoing war of the peasants against the Soviet government. You always had plenty of monarchists there. They couldn't say so openly many times, but Nicholas remained popular until the day he was murdered. Myself, having worked for many years on the February press and memoirs of the contemporaries
Starting point is 05:58:36 of the February, could not fail to notice this sharp strengthening, this gusting. In those materials, from the most varied witnesses and participants of those events, there are so many Jewish names, and the Jewish theme is very loud and persistent. From the memory of Rojjanko, from the town governor Balk, from General Globajov and many others, from the first days of the revolution in the depths of the Tavrinsky Palace, the number of Jews jumped out at me. Among the members of the Commandants Office, the interrogation commissions, the pamphlet merchants, and so on, V.D. Nabakov, who was well disposed towards Jews, wrote that on March 2nd, at the entrance of the Tavrishki mini park in front of the Duma building, there was an unbelievable crush of people in shouting at the entrance of the gates some young Jewish-looking men were questioning the bypassers. According to Bulk, the crowd that went on the rampage at the Astoria, an elite hotel in St. Petersburg, on the night of February 28th, consisted of armed soldiers, sailors, and Jews. I would indulge some emigrant irritability here as they used to say, well, that's all the Jews. Yet the same was witnessed by another neutral observer, the Methodist pastor, Dr. Simons, an American who had already been in Petrograd for 10 years and knew it well. He was debrief by a commission of the American Senate in 1919.
Starting point is 06:00:09 Quote, soon after the March Revolution of 1917, everywhere in Petrograd, you can see groups of Jews, standing on benches, soapboxes, and such, making speeches. There had been restrictions on the rights of Jews to live in Petrograd, but after the revolution, they came in droves and the majority of agitators were Jews. They were apostate Jews. You know, that always irritates me. You know, a lot of normie conservatives say stupid things like that.
Starting point is 06:00:35 Although I have cited him, he is a good source of information in my book and things like that. But apostate, apostate from what? This was their religion. I guess he means apostate in the sense that these aren't religious Jews at all. But that didn't make any difference as far as your connection to liberalism or Bolivism was concerned. One had nothing to do with the other. I mean, some of the more extremists. didn't like it, but only because they thought they'd be a nasty reaction against them, not because they were opposed to it.
Starting point is 06:01:11 So, you know, and that that became kind of a common theme Americans to this day in the Senate, now how they have no concept of what's going on in Russia. And I've dealt with some of the laws that they've passed the Captive Nations Act in the 50s where they misspell everything. It's absolutely clueless. They're not apostate Jews, they're Jews. And by the way, exactly what we were talking about in the Jewish question with Karl Marx. Marx says that is the Jewish religion.
Starting point is 06:01:46 That's the essence of the Jewish religion. They weren't apostate from anything. A certain student, Hanuk, came to Kronstadt a few days before a planned massacre of 60 officers who were named on a hit list. He became the founder and chairman of the Kronstadt's Committee of the Revolutionary Movement. The order of the committee was to arrest and try each and all officers. Somebody had already prepared and disseminated false information, triggering massacres first in Kronstadt, then in Svierborg.
Starting point is 06:02:14 It was because of the uncertainty of the situation when every fabrication was taken for a hard fact. The baton of the bloody Kronstadt affair was carried by the dropout psychoreologist Dr. Rochal. Later after the October coup, later after the October coup, S. G. Rochal was appointed the commandant of the Gachina, and from November, he was the commissar of the whole Romanian front, where he was killed upon arrival. Yeah, don't get it into your head that the provisional government wasn't bloody. They absolutely were. It's just when compared to the Bolsheviks, they seem absolutely peaceful and like hippies by comparison. But they were as bloody as anyone else, given the power that they had. You know, how much of Russia did they really control?
Starting point is 06:03:04 That's, you know, that's an open question. The Reds really didn't end up controlling all of their territory until late Stalin, the late Stalin era. So I do think it's an interesting question. If the provisional government took over, the war ended, how would they then rule from there on in? I don't know of any literature on that topic, but it would be an interesting. contention, but they just weren't around long enough to become infamous. A certain Solomon and Kaplan spoke on behalf of the newly formed revolutionary militia of the Vassilievsky Island in the future of the latter would become the bloody henchmen
Starting point is 06:03:50 of Zinoviev. The Petrograd Bar created a special commission for the examination of the justice of imprisoning persons arrested during the time of the revolution. Thousands were arrested during this time in Petrograd, that is, to virtually decide their fate without due process, and that of all the former gendarme and police. The commission was headed by the barrister Goldstein, yet the unique story of the petty officer Timofé Kirpysnikov, who triggered the street revolution, was written in March 1917 and preserved for us by the Jew Jacob Markovitch Fishman, a curious historical figure. I, with gratitude, relied on this story in The Red Wheel.
Starting point is 06:04:35 The Red Wheel is a great novel from Solzhenitsyn. I love how he says, the Jew, Jacob Fishman. Like, we needed to be told that he's a Jew. But the Jews, just by reading this, if nothing else, they saw this as a very convenient period of time where they can mobilize to take it to the next level, which is what happened in October, one form or another.
Starting point is 06:05:07 I know I said this before, but it is a stain on the Russian church that the majority of business went along with this. Yes, they did not persecute the church, as far as I know, at least not systematically, but that the majority of bishops went along with this so-called overthrow of Zara Nicholas
Starting point is 06:05:29 is something that really, there were plenty of royalists too, but they were a minority. And it, I mean, you know, who could defend Russian orthodoxy more than me? But this was a terrible, a terrible thing. And their excuses for supporting it were stupid. And I actually deal with that at some length as well. Elsewhere. The Jewish Encyclopedia concludes,
Starting point is 06:05:54 Jews for the first time in Russian history had occupied posts in the central and regional administrations. On the very heights in the Executive Committee of the Soviet of Workers and Soldiers, deputies, invisibly ruling the country in those months, two leaders distinguished themselves. Nakamkis, Steklov, and Gomer Sukhanov. On the night of March 1st to March 2nd, they dictated to the complacently blind provisional government, a program which preemptively destroyed its power for the entire period of its existence. Reflective contemporary G.A. Landau thus explains the active participation of the Jews in the revolution. Quote, the misfortune of Russia and the misfortune of the Russian jury is that the results of the first revolution, 1905, were still not processed, not transformed into a new social fabric.
Starting point is 06:06:50 No new generation was born when a great and backbreaking war broke out. And when the hour of disintegration came, it came upon the generation that from the very beginning was a kind of, of exhausted remnant of the previous revolution. It found the inertia of depleted spirituality lacking an organic connection to the situation and chained by spiritual stagnation to the 10 years ago bygone period. And so the organic revolutionism of the beginning of the 20th century of the first Russian revolution in 1905 had turned into the mechanical permanent revolution of the wartime era. End quote.
Starting point is 06:07:27 I'm going to say, I'm going to say one thing. There was nothing organic. meaning natural, about 1905, February, or October. All of these were artificial, and all of these were pulled off by people with minimal connection to your typical Russian worker, typical Russian peasant. There was absolutely nothing organic about it, nothing natural about it. Through many years of detailed studies, I have spent much time trying to comprehend the essence of the February Revolution and the Jewish role in it.
Starting point is 06:07:59 I came to this conclusion and can now repeat it. And can now repeat. No, the February Revolution was not something the Jews did to the Russians, but rather it was done by the Russians to themselves, which I believe I amply demonstrated in the red wheel. We committed this downfall ourselves. Our anointed czar, the court circles, the hapless high-ranking generals,
Starting point is 06:08:21 obtuse administrators and their enemies, the elite intelligentsia of the Octobrist Party, the Zemstva, the cadets, the revolutionary Democrats, socialists, and revolutionaries, and along with them, a bandit element of army reservists distressingly confined to the Petersburg barracks. And this is precisely why we perished. True, there were already many Jews among the intelligentsia by that time. Yet that is in no way a basis to call it a Jewish revolution. One may classify revolutions by their main animating forces, and then the February revolution must be seen as a Russian national revolution
Starting point is 06:08:58 or more precisely a Russian ethnic revolution. Though if one would judge it using the methodology of materialistic sociologists, asking who benefited the most or benefited most quickly or the most solidly and in the long term from the revolution, and then it could be called otherwise Jewish, for example. But then again, why not German? After all, Kaiser Wilhelm initially benefited from it. But the remaining Russian population got nothing but harm in destruction. However, that doesn't make the revolution.
Starting point is 06:09:28 non-Russian. The Jewish society got everything at fought for from the revolution, and the October Revolution was altogether unnecessary for them, except for a small slice of young cutthroat Jews who, with their Russian internationals' brothers, accumulated an explosive charge of hate for the Russian governing class and burst forth to deepen the revolution. It's unfortunate that it's extremely difficult to tell what percentage of the ethnic Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian populations supported the abolition of the monarchy. I'm very low to say that it was a majority. You know, when I talked about these bishops, I don't think the clergy supported it whatsoever, lower clergy.
Starting point is 06:10:16 The monks certainly didn't, but the bishops certainly did. It's the same thing. That's another group of people who, but it seems that the Jews were the only ones who benefited because it permitted them a period of time to mobilize and then take over in October. You know, there was no support for the provisional government because there was nothing to support. You know, Karenski was one personality among many. and any any German support for the overthrow of the monarchy is incredibly short-sighted because they had no I mean it's easy for us to say now
Starting point is 06:10:59 but they had no idea what was going to happen they had no idea what was going to replace it the empire that was going to come out of it it was deeply Masonic it was deeply elite the peasants didn't make this revolution your typical worker didn't make this revolution even the high-ranking officers you know the very high-ranking officers around Nicholas may have most of them did but you know like we would call brigadier generals
Starting point is 06:11:29 and colonels and stuff certainly didn't but when the Civil War broke out you had a lot of these mid-level you know one star two-star three-star generals you know division level army level running different factions it was quite chaotic like Capel you had you had
Starting point is 06:11:50 strongly monarchist and orthodox faction while the initial mainstream was in support of the constituent assembly which was it's not a principle technically remember the whites were in the army of the provisional government
Starting point is 06:12:07 sort of that's at least where they how they were perceived in the West but I think he's right to a great extent the Jews benefited by far the most but only in that this was a stepping stone for something else
Starting point is 06:12:24 so how having understood this was I to move through March 1917 and then April 1917 describing the revolution literally hour by hour I frequently found the many episodes and the sources that had a Jewish theme yet would it be right to simply pour
Starting point is 06:12:42 all that on the pages of March 1917, then that easy and piquant temptation to put all the blame on Jews on their ideas and actions to see them as the main reason for these events would easily skew the book and overcome the readers and divert the research away from the truly main causes of the revolution. Yeah, that's a title of a book. But it has to be said that no one, at least no one normal would ever say the Jews were the exclusive cause of these things, that it was entirely 100% of Jewish phenomenon. That's extremely rare to find in politics anyway. It was disproportionate, maybe even, you know, they were extraordinarily well-represented, but no one, you know, saying all of them, all the blame,
Starting point is 06:13:33 you have to be pretty stupid to say that. It's just not true. And so in order to avoid the self-deception of the Russians, I persistently and purposely downplayed the Jewish theme in the Red Wheel, relative to its actual coverage in the press and on the streets in those days. The February Revolution was carried out by Russian hands and Russian foolishness, yet at the same time its ideology was permeated and dominated by the intransigent hostility to the historical Russian state that ordinary Russians didn't have, but the Jews had. So the Russian intelligentsia, too, had adopted this view. This intransigent hostility grew especially sharp after the trial of Belis, and then after the mass expulsion of the Jews in 1915. And so this intransigence overcame the moderation. Yet the executive committee of workers and soldiers' deputies, which was formed within hours of the revolution, appears very different. This executive committee was, in fact, a tough shadow government that deprecrow.
Starting point is 06:14:35 the liberal provisional government of any real power, while at the same time criminally refused to accept responsibility for its power openly. By its order number one, the executive committee rested the power from the military and created its support for itself in the demoralized garrison of Petrograd. It was precisely this executive committee, and not the judiciary, not the timber industrialists, not the bankers, which fast-tracked the country to her doom. In the summer of 1917, Joseph Goldenberg, a member of the executive committee explained to the French diplomat Claude and Ney, quote, the order number one was not a mistake. It was a necessity. On the day we executed the revolution,
Starting point is 06:15:17 we realized that if we did not destroy the old army, it would crush the revolution. We had to choose between the army and the revolution, and we did not waver. We chose the latter and inflicted, I dare say, a brilliant blow. So there you have it. The executive committee quite purposely destroyed the army in the middle of the war. And that's precisely what Cornelov said. Now, if you read the press at the time, they're saying that this is an overdue reform of the military, patriotic reform. That's how the American press talked about it, you know, getting everything from the system
Starting point is 06:15:53 in Russia. They realized that it was the army and the army alone that could reverse all of this. order number one we talked about that already I explained it already you know they tried to get rid of ranks to a great extent soldiers didn't have to listen to officers
Starting point is 06:16:11 there were officers committees it just you know it was to destroy any kind of chain of command it was pretty radical and of course it was eventually reversed but by that time it was too late
Starting point is 06:16:24 Kunilov ended up in opposition to the provisional government precisely because of order number one. Cornelov wrote substantially. In fact, Cornelov wrote to Karenski explaining how, what a disaster this is, and in person,
Starting point is 06:16:44 well, he also said it in person. Kornilov, Kerensky said, yeah, I tend to agree, then tried to have him arrested the next day. Partially, that's because you had numerous centers of power. How much power Kerensky had versus the Soviets? And the Soviets, you know, they were Bolsheviks of a type. Many of them revolted against the early Soviet Union. The ideological differences were probably minimal. That's hard to tell sometimes. I think some of
Starting point is 06:17:20 the local Soviets actually believed Leninist propaganda. I actually wanted to give land a peasant, which, of course, he had no intention of doing. when that didn't happen, they got angry. Something along those lines. But I think the Soviets, really only in urban areas, very Jewish, had any real power. And that power was dispersed. So the army had to be defang. Order number one was, you know, it was diabolical, but it was a pretty brilliant way to do it.
Starting point is 06:17:58 And for the most part, it was carried out, at least in, carried out at least within the army. It didn't last very long. But I want to remind everybody, too, and this may not necessarily be relevant to this particular issue. But the level of PTSD this country had by now, or all of Europe had by now, because of World War I, was extraordinary. No one saw a war like this coming. the mass of casualties, a poison gas, machine gun, the introduction of the tank later on, the air war for the first time, trench warfare, the stagnation, the attrition.
Starting point is 06:18:45 And I try to keep that when I was writing, and I continued to write my stuff on this. I'll send a few to you. You could publish a couple of articles I have on this stuff on the site. I try to keep that in mind. Now, of course, they're a much stronger, healthier group of people than, let's say, Americans today. But I don't want to ignore that fact. Plus the fact, you know, Lenin would never, Lenin wasn't telling people what he wanted to do.
Starting point is 06:19:16 The Soviets kind of weren't. That was for the esoteric for the initiates. Yes, Lenin believed in collectivization. He wasn't going to talk about it, though. that became war communism. He couldn't say that in public. He wasn't going to talk, he's going to burn down the church.
Starting point is 06:19:38 He couldn't say that in public either. But that eventually happened. And I think the white armies had an idea that Leonard was full of it. And certainly when Trotsky came back from, actually was from Canada, with this group of New York Jews and financiers, that's really where the anti-Christmas.
Starting point is 06:19:57 came in, but Lenin was going to do the same. Anyway, don't put all this on Stalin. Lenin and Trotsky were just as vicious in every way, shape, matter, reform. They just had a much weaker system to work with. So I try to keep
Starting point is 06:20:14 the shock that Russians were living under. Not just World War I, events is going to be the Civil War II. Russians live, they're like Afghani. They live under a constant state of war from, and mass casualties from 1914, pretty much, to 1945. Because the peasant uprisings were often huge all over the country. The American press wouldn't talk about it. So I also want to keep that in mind when I write about it when I discuss it.
Starting point is 06:20:46 But, you know, the British press didn't seem to have a huge problem with order number one, despite the fact that, you know, Russians and the British were allies in World War I. The war is still raging here. You know, they bought the nonsense. This is just a reform. No one realized what it was except Cornelo because he saw it in practice. He refused to implement it. But you see an admission here.
Starting point is 06:21:14 We did it to destroy the army. Well, they didn't say that at the time. And Kerenzky wasn't alone. You know, the Soviets were interested in this too. which is another way of saying that their forces at this point, let's say spring of 1917, were very weak. Just one committed general with a solid few divisions.
Starting point is 06:21:38 Could have destroyed all of this, but they couldn't get their act together, partially because it was some of the high command that got rid of Nicholas in the first place. Is it legitimate to ask who were those successful and fatal for Russia leaders of the executive, Committee? Yes, it is legitimate when actions of such leaders abruptly changed the course of history. And it must be said that the composition of the Executive Committee greatly concerned
Starting point is 06:22:01 the public in the newspapers in 1917, during which time many members of the committee concealed themselves behind pseudonyms from the public eye. Who was ruling Russia? No one knew. Then, as it turned out, there was a dozen of soldiers who were there just for show and weren't very bright, they were kept out of any real power or decision-making. From the other 30, though, of those who actually wielded power, more than half were Jewish socialists. There were also Russians, Caucasians, Latvians, and Poles. Less than a quarter were Russians. I've seen many estimates all over the spectrum from kind of liberal to monarchists about Russians who actually supported the extreme left
Starting point is 06:22:53 and it's very low and they tried to have elections for the constituent assembly I think it was a handful showed up. A participation was was nil and I get partially because the Dumont didn't really do much and all right wing parties were banned
Starting point is 06:23:11 at this point which is one of the things that both of the Karenski government and the executive committee the Soviets, workers, soldiers, deputies, all of this, they were united, any kind of right-wing party, including the octobers, were gone. They were banned. So, any election they had was absolutely farceful. And there was nothing about these committees or Soviets that was elected at all, not by any definition.
Starting point is 06:23:40 Of course, they would say they were. But, you know, and yet they still had a lot of power. And at that level, they were extremely Jewish. So the germs, so to speak, the cells, the outline of the future Soviet Union was already starting to show itself. The moderate socialist, V.B. Stankovic noted, what really stuck out in the composition of the committee was the large foreign element, totally out of proportion for their part of the population in Petits. or the country in general. Stankovic asks, was this the unhealthy scum of Russian society? Or was the consequence of the sins of the old, or was this the consequence of the sins of the old regime, which by its actions violently pushed a foreign element into the leftist parties? Or was this
Starting point is 06:24:35 simply the result of free competition? And then there remains an open question. Who bears more guilt for this? The foreign born who were there or the Russians who could have been there but weren't? For a socialist, that might be a case to look for, that might be a case to look for a guilty party. Yet wouldn't it be better for all, for us, for you, for them, to avoid sinking into that mad, dirty torrents altogether? Well, unfortunately, I'm in that dirty torrent for, you know, 24 hours a day so far as the research issue was concerned. But you can't point to just one. You know, there were many. I've read a billion articles.
Starting point is 06:25:16 roughly on what caused the fall of, you know, what caused 1917, the various elements. And it's certainly the right-wing point of view, too. And one of them is certainly the subversion of the nobility, such as they were. That masonry had penetrated very deeply. I have a paper out somewhere. I think it's in, I don't know. Barnes Review, one of these journals. on the sexual revolution, which had occurred roughly around the turn of the century,
Starting point is 06:25:51 amongst the high-level nobility, something that, you know, Nicholas II, if you knew about it, this thought was disgusting, something that Alexander III would have crushed. It's not to say that Nicholas was weak by any means. He wasn't, but this Alexander III was particularly strong. Yeah, the guilt here, if I was pressed, It's the nature of the war that they were able to take advantage of and the extreme levels of casualties.
Starting point is 06:26:28 But foreign-born, you have this huge amount of foreign money coming in. This was not a Russian phenomenon at any level in the sense of your ordinary Russian. They had absolutely nothing to do. They paid for it, but they had nothing to do with it. But the very fact that so many of the bishops were in favor of this provisional government, at least at first. I mean, I have quotes after quote from these guys, that this is a,
Starting point is 06:26:51 this is God's gift to us, and they rule in God's name and all this garbage. These were Freemasons. Kerenstki was. Crenzky was very high. I think he was 32nd degree. Masons were, you know, a masonry really, you know,
Starting point is 06:27:08 had roots in, even though it's a Western phenomenon. You know, it was like Judaism for Gentiles. That's how it was seen. And that's another version of the, remember we talked about the Judaizers early on in this book. You know, Mates Me was kind of like that. It never quite went away because it was secret, you know, and they were wealthy. They can get away with it.
Starting point is 06:27:38 You know, any right-wing government has to ban all of this entirely, but that's really hard to do. the Jews of course are front center in all of this there's no question about it the partition of Poland which introduced millions of going hating the Talmudists into Russia was the worst thing that could have happened
Starting point is 06:28:03 to the empire I think by now we all agree on that and that Russia from the beginning was unprepared to deal with this. It's to Russia's credit, though, that the Russian nobility didn't do what the Polish nobility did.
Starting point is 06:28:20 There's two very different systems. The Tsar was far too powerful for that to be the case. Remember, the Polish system of Jewish rule really was that the monarchy had no power. Well, you can't say that about Russia. I think it is, to Russia's credit,
Starting point is 06:28:35 that they really didn't go down that road. Maybe by now, you had many Russian elites who were in debt to Jewish bankers. for like the Winston Churchill phenomenon where his whole family was in debt to to the Jews Jewish bankers for their absolutely
Starting point is 06:28:51 dissolute living, especially his father. E. Michael Jones talks about that too. But I said this before, but without a war and a war like this. I guess if Franco-Prussian war was as close as you were going to get, but even that doesn't come close to what World War I was.
Starting point is 06:29:11 And we're coming near the end. You know, well, we're in the middle of World War I. You know, we're talking about millions of casualties with no end in sight. And for no obvious reason, that's, you know, that's the shock here. And so you have multi-layered PTSD. There wasn't a family in Russia that didn't have a son. Of course, no women. Although you had an occasional nurse who got clipped
Starting point is 06:29:43 but didn't have a son who was killed or mutilated. And there certainly wasn't the resources to deal with the mutilated kid when he came home. Certainly not in provisional state. And God knows not with the Bolshevik state where the economy just collapsed. And beyond that, Western money, Western support, Western propaganda, especially from Britain. That didn't help either. So basically, this British need, the need of this Darwinian, British elite, colonialist, industrialist, their need to get Russia and Germany to fight each other.
Starting point is 06:30:29 It was the ultimate cause, many steps back of what happened here. And they had no problem with it. They had no problem with February. They had no problem with October. They had a little problem with October because, you know, they had a separate peace with Germany. That caused a little, that's one of the reasons that there was some intervention in the northern part of Russia. The only thing they really cared about was keeping Russia in the war. The Treaty of Brezhletovsky was, you know, it was unpopular because it gave a lot of Russian terrorists.
Starting point is 06:31:09 way, but at least it got Russia out of the war. That was the only reason the British had a problem with the October Revolution, and that's why British and French troops were in Russia. There were other reasons, too. It had nothing to do with Bolsheviks. They were allies. And
Starting point is 06:31:26 so, I mean, I can't stress this, the nature of this war enough, but ultimately the war comes from Britain. Yes, The proximate cause was Austria's invasion of Serbia. But there was no reason for Russians and Germans to ever go to war.
Starting point is 06:31:52 And the British knew that. I've always interpreted World War I. Of course, there was an esoteric element, get rid of the monarchies and everything else. That's certainly true. But as far as the British ruling class was concerned, we have to have these people kill each other because we could be able to compete with one of these powers not in the far east not in Central Asia
Starting point is 06:32:17 there's a lot of money to be made there we're just getting started and the result of course was millions of deaths and mutilations an entire generation slaughtered and shocked and traumatized out of their minds and without that
Starting point is 06:32:37 none of this would have happened none of this February or October would never have happened as I said before no war no revolution all right next chapter is going to be during 1917 and
Starting point is 06:32:52 looks like that's going to be a long one so it looks like we might be on that one for a few episodes okay all right so yep as I always end these go over to
Starting point is 06:33:04 the show notes and go over to the descriptions of the videos. Every way that you can possibly donate to Dr. Johnson is there, and please do that. And, yeah, just want to thank everyone who keeps, you know, commenting on this and saying how much they love it and, you know, it keeps us going. And let's keep Dr. Johnson going by donating to him. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. I want to welcome everyone back to part 59 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson.
Starting point is 06:33:44 Dr. Johnson, how are you today? You know, I was the biggest Black Sabbath fan in high school. You know, I was a musician. But, you know, Ozzy Osbourne, for all of the, you know, it's very surprising. He doesn't know anything about music. He doesn't know how to read music. He never wrote a song. He has excellent, excellent taste of musicians, that's for sure.
Starting point is 06:34:08 But Tony Iommi and Gieser Butler created him. That's the only reason that he exists. It's the only reason he ever was able to have a solo career or anything else for that matter. I had to just get that off my chest again. I've been saying that since this obsession occurred. Did you know Ozzy died? Yeah. I'm, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 06:34:26 I'm being sarcastic because it's flipping everywhere. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah, you know, and this guy, you know, he, he he um he's not a musician let's put it that way deal could could sing rings around the guy but he had very little to do with putting the songs together those you know
Starting point is 06:34:49 those Sabbath albums that was Tony in music and geezer and lyrics and to some extent Bill but he was as a long for the ride he would have died as a drug addict in the in the 70s if Tony didn't create that band. And everything, all the stories I've heard points to the fact that the reason they even let him sing is because he was just this weirdo who would like run around the town and like pull, he'd have like a, be holding a leash in his hand and be pulling along like a stuffed bunny. or something like that.
Starting point is 06:35:33 I don't know. Like the lunatic. Well, Tony went to school with him and he just said that he was a nuisance and a pain. He was your younger. I mean, you know, he could hit the notes. I mean, in the beginning, anyway. That's just why Tony, when the band was set up on stage, Tony was in the middle. This was him.
Starting point is 06:35:55 This was his band. And, you know, he could hit the notes and everything. But to think that he had anything to do. with the creation of what was heavy metal. I mean, they did create heavy metal. Like the Ramon's created punk is not true. You know, he was there. He sang it.
Starting point is 06:36:15 He was adequate for what they needed at the time. I agree. Agree. All right. Starting a new chapter here, chapter 14. Ready to go? Again, it's important. And what I used to say, Willis Cardo was the Ozzy Osborne of
Starting point is 06:36:31 the nationalist movement I used to say that all the time because he wasn't a scholar he didn't pretend to be one he didn't call himself one he wasn't really a writer but he knew how to identify them he could tell
Starting point is 06:36:46 you know that's why I was hired obviously Michael Collins Piper all the other you know he had a lot of great people go through there over the years and Ozzie was the same way he had great musicians everyone from Rudy Sarzo to Tommy Aldridge to Jake Lee
Starting point is 06:36:58 he could he had an excellent he had he he he could spot a great musician without being anything close to a musician himself that was the one thing that he he could do well apparently there was this yeah well apparently there was this whole big thing about how on the on the blizzard of Oz album like Lee curse like the drummer wrote most of those songs yeah yeah so yeah yeah i've heard about that have you i don't don't look him up today he was he's huge he looks like like a mess, assuming he's still alive. Maybe those are old videos, but he looks terrible. It's like Tommy Aldridge. Tommy Aldridge still looks the same, just older. Lee Kirstleck,
Starting point is 06:37:43 I don't think, has kept up with playing or anything else. That was a great band, though. Yes, sir. All right. Chapter 14, during 1917. In the beginning of April, 1917, the provisional government had discovered, to its surprise, that Russian finances are ready for for some time in quite bad shape, we're on the brink of complete collapse. In an attempt to mend the situation and stir enthusiastic patriotism, the government loudly announced the issuance of domestic freedom loan bonds. Russia was in the best financial shape before the war started. Not just in terms of income.
Starting point is 06:38:22 It was a creditor nation. It was feeding the world. Oil was flowing. The population was growing. But it had a tremendous amount of equality, thanks to the peasant land ownership. Of course, the war hurt that to some extent. But once 1917 hit, there's no confidence in the economy at all. A lot of foreign investment, mostly French, though, and they're going to pull out.
Starting point is 06:38:53 So they just didn't have any trust in it. So, and the Soviet Union, from, from this point until the Putin era, they never reached the economic development level of the late Tsarist Empire. Now, Putin's recovered it, of course, didn't take very long, but that's how bad off these governments were that they never approached. I mean, they always needed food aid, always. And yet Russia was drowning in wheat and grain. in that era. It just, so talking about economic collapse and it's going to do so again and again and again over the next couple of years at least, none of this came close to happening.
Starting point is 06:39:39 I mean, there were some localized famines, that's true, because of a drought and things like that. The government had ways of responding to that very quickly. There weren't mass death events. but they never they never came close to what czarish russia had achieved by say 1912 rumors about the loan had began circulating as early as march and minister of finance terashenko informed the press that that there were already multi-million pledges from bankers to buy bonds quote mainly from the jewish bankers which is undoubtedly related to the
Starting point is 06:40:21 abolition of religious and national restrictions. End quote. Indeed, as soon as the loan was officially announced, names of large Jewish subscribers began appearing in newspapers, accompanied by prominent front page appeals, quote, Jewish citizens subscribe to the freedom loan, and every Jew must have the freedom loan bonds, end quote. In a single subscription drive in a Moscow synagogue, 22 million rubles were collected. During the first two, days, Jews in Tiflas subscribed to 1.5 million rubles of bonds. Jews in Minsk to half a million in the first week. The Saratov community to 800,000 rubles of bonds. In Kiev, the heirs of Brodsky and Clara Ginsburg each spent one million. The Jews abroad came forward as well. Jacob Schiff,
Starting point is 06:41:13 one million. Rothschild in London, one million. In Paris on the initiative of Barron Ginsburg, Russian Jews participated actively and subscribed to several million worth of bonds. At the same time, the Jewish Committee in Support for Freedom Loan was established and appealed to public. Could you believe this? The nanosecond, and with the collapsing economy, by the way, the millisecond, czar Nicholas is removed. You have millions upon millions upon millions coming in from Jewish elite. they had no idea what was going to happen
Starting point is 06:41:52 it was a very unstable situation we'll talk about here in a minute it was just a lot of the wealthier Jews they were willing to lose the money if it meant maybe supporting this kind of this no one knew
Starting point is 06:42:06 no one had any clue about how this was actually going to work out like we do but this was a you know we talked about last time this was a Jewish government but it wasn't just a matter of lifting the restrictions they were in a restricted group of people in very specific areas maybe
Starting point is 06:42:24 that was her own fault but this had more to do with the fact that the czar was gone that they were building a new secular society that a variant of socialism had had taken over
Starting point is 06:42:39 that's all they cared about you know people what we'll tell you you know these Hollywood movies that flop because they have to stick black people in it Little Mermaid and this crap, you know, they know they're going to lose money. They know that, you know, they do this all the time. They ruin TV shows.
Starting point is 06:42:56 They know they're going to lose advertising revenue. It doesn't matter. They're millionaires already. They have income from all kinds. They don't care. The IMF was sending, I've been saying this, God, almighty, since my kids were little. The IMF had been sending loans to a broken Ukraine since, um, Since 2004, they know they're never going to see it again.
Starting point is 06:43:21 But it doesn't matter. If it means keeping them away from Russia, they'll do it. So at that level, with these millionaires and billionaires today, they're willing to take a loss, sometimes a big loss, for a further, more important goal. It's not all about profit. you know it's not like these guys in Hollywood just the other day discovered what the population wants to see they've always they know that these things are going to flop it's not the point it's the lay a foundation they're investing in debt well that's what a bond is they're investing in debt
Starting point is 06:44:04 in an economy that's in serious trouble and is very unstable and has no direction still by the way in the middle of a war, which we could forget very, very easily, April 1917, but it didn't matter. None of that mattered. The Tsar was gone. These were not freedom loans. These were celebration loans as far as the Jews were concerned. However, the government was very disappointed with the overall results of the first month of the subscription. For encouragement, the list of major subscribers who purchased bonds on 25,000 rubles or more were published several times in the beginning of May, in the beginning of June, and in the end of July. Quote, the rich who did not subscribe were shamed.
Starting point is 06:44:47 What is most striking is not the sheer number of Jewish names on the list, assimilated Russian Germans with their precarious situation during the Russo-German War, were in the second place among bondholders, but the near absence of the top Russian bourgeoisie, apart from a handful of prominent Moscow entrepreneurs. I don't know why he says Russo German. He means World War I. And that's a shame by itself
Starting point is 06:45:14 because the Germans were very loyal. They were very pro-Russia. Many of them were like semi-Russianized. You know, names like Witte. I mean, we've, you know, we've come across many German names. These were some of the most loyal monarchists in Russian politics.
Starting point is 06:45:37 So, but because of the anti, this artificial anti-German feeling, which the press at the time was promoting in Russia, it was all the short-sighted nonsense, you had very loyal people possibly living somewhat of a thesis as a precarious situation. It's a shame. In politics, left and center parties burgeoned and many Jews had become politically active. From the very first days after the February Revolution, central newspapers published an enormous number of announcements about private meetings, assemblies, and sessions of various Jewish parties. Initially, mostly the Bund, but later, Paul Zion, Zionists, Socialist Zionist,
Starting point is 06:46:19 territorialist Zionists, and the Socialist Jewish Workers Party. By March 7th, we already read about an incoming assembly of the All-Russian Jewish Congress. Finally, the pre-revolutionary idea of Dubnov had become widely accepted. However, because of sharp differences between Zionists and Bundus, the Congress did not materialize in 1917, nor did occur in 1918, either because of the Civil War and antagonism of Bolshevik authorities. In Petrograd, Jewish People's Group was re-established with Venever at the helm. They were liberals, not socialists. Initially, they hoped to establish an alliance with Jewish socialists. Vinever declared, quote, we applaud the Bund, the vanguard of the revolutionary movement.
Starting point is 06:47:07 end quote. Yet the socialist stubbornly rejected all gestures of rapprochement. The rallying of Jewish parties in Petrograd had indirectly indicated that by the time of the revolution, the Jewish population there was already substantial and energetic. Surprisingly, despite the fact that almost no Jewish proletariat existed in Petrograd, the Bun was very successful there. Or anywhere. It was extraordinarily active in Petrograd, arranging a number of number of meetings of local organization in the lawyers club and then on
Starting point is 06:47:42 April 1st in the in the in the Tennishev school there was a meeting with a concert in the Mikhailovsky in the Mikhailovsky theater then on April 14th through 19th the all Russian conference of the bun took place at which a demand to establish a national and cultural Jewish autonomy in Russia was brought forward again after conclusion of speeches all the conference participants had sung the Boond Anthem Oath, the Internationale, and La Marseille. How does that pronounce?
Starting point is 06:48:16 Le Marseille. I don't know how to pronounce that. Now it's bullshit either way. Yeah, it's French stuff. And, as in past, Bund had to balance its national and revolutionary platforms. In 1903, it struggled
Starting point is 06:48:31 for the independence from the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, and yet in 1905, it rushed headlong into the all-Russian revolution. Likewise now, in 1917, the Boone's representatives occupied prominent positions in the Executive Committee of the Soviet of Workers and Socialist Deputies. At least, you can read that, yeah, you can read that. Okay. A Soviet is the Russian term used for an elected, at least in theory, counsel. And later among the Social Democrats of Kiev, by the end the 1917, the Bund had nearly
Starting point is 06:49:08 400 sections countrywide totaling about 40,000 members. I've said it before, and I'm going to say it a million times, probably till the day I dropped it. None of these people, none of these parties, Jewish and a handful
Starting point is 06:49:24 of Russians that were involved, claiming to represent labor had any interest in them. They didn't benefit from the revolution whatsoever. They were far more oppressed under their rule than they ever were in in czarism. Their bosses, if they politically were correct, were just simply promoted in the Soviet state
Starting point is 06:49:51 and called proletarians, believe it or not. When my book came out, the Soviet experiment, one of the main arguments in it is demonstrating, and we've done a lot of that here, actually, just what I'm saying, demonstrating that, that the Soviet Union, Lenin himself, Trotsky, more than anyone, Trotsky, certainly these Jews, these upper-class Jews from Poland and Pell Settlement, didn't really know any workers, didn't care about workers, were threatened by workers, I mean, actual guys working in a factory, certainly peasants were out of the question. Guys work in machinery. Not only that, of course, they were some of the substantial opponents of the Marxist system, not as much as a peasants were. The only way that they can get them to work is if they either lied to them or, as we talked about before in 1905, forced them to go on strike. you know
Starting point is 06:50:59 it's extremely suspicious how this group who clearly has no interest in the Goyam who runs the factories suddenly they're their spokesman overnight and given their treatment
Starting point is 06:51:11 of them later on it's clear and yet today open up your first textbook on the history of the USSR is it was at worker state oh it might have failed
Starting point is 06:51:21 it might have had problems but it was still aimed at labor. And that was never the case. Not at one point was ever the case. And he hints at it here that there was no such thing as a Jewish proletariat. That would be humiliating for them. These were essentially Jewish nationalist organizations. I shouldn't say that. These were Jewish organizations who wanted to take revenge on their imagination. the pogroms and everything else and destroy the ultimate symbol of old Rome and that is of course
Starting point is 06:52:04 our Nicola 2nd who was the inheritor who was Roman Empire you know going way way back the last Roman emperor so that's all they cared about we talked about why the proletariat was chosen this is extremely important it was because they were workers
Starting point is 06:52:21 or they were oppressed these were oppressors they were chosen because they were vulnerable they could be manipulated and then the Jews can go in public and say how noble we all are supporting these people and Marxism was just a very convenient platform
Starting point is 06:52:42 for them to use to take over Marx was very frustrating it was only on the extreme left really Marxism and even most of the anarchists. You don't get a view of what the future is going to be. Marxism is entirely a criticism of what they think capitalism is, as are being paid
Starting point is 06:53:05 money by capitalists to publish it. And in some cases, you know, Marx, especially in the early writings, Marx was correct. It was tremendously exploitative. On our show, on the Jewish question, we talked about how necessary free trade was. in a broad sense for Marxism it was one of the stages on the way to socialism it was an earlier version of a revolution
Starting point is 06:53:33 that will soon be supplanted by the Bolshevik revolution but it was still absolutely necessary especially in Western Europe Marx went back and forth he hated Slavs as did as did Engels and I have paper after paper
Starting point is 06:53:50 lecture after lecture quoting them on how much they hated Slavs. And not just, you know, the Tsar, but Slavs in general, especially the peasantry. This was the bulwark against revolution, Russia, you know, Eastern Slavs, I should say. And this is why Marx was a huge support of the Crimean War. And you would think he would be anti-war, but no, he attacked the anti-war protesters in Britain during Crimea, who said this is a war. And going very well, Russia is beating us.
Starting point is 06:54:25 And I think it was called the snowball riot. And Marx was very upset by this. You know, you have to be very careful when reading these people. What do they mean by these terms? What really does a proletarian, is a proletarian? What really is a, what's really an enemy of the people? What's really, when they refer to the people or the masses, who specifically are they talking about? it isn't everybody
Starting point is 06:54:51 clearly I mean they killed enough people we know it isn't everybody they eliminate a lot of people so who are they really talking about and who is this you know who are they speaking to when they're writing
Starting point is 06:55:04 in the last few years I've just been focused on that understand that when they write and even when they speak like even in campaigns although Bolsheviks didn't really campaign they didn't run for election most of the time but people very close to them
Starting point is 06:55:19 who ran for a little election, they didn't give out their agenda right away. They gave very bland kind of standard, you know, liberal opinions. Only later when they take power, will they show the world what their agenda is all based on deceit. You have to be very careful. And the whole purpose of being a scholar, this is what a scholar is, is to read this stuff and tear it apart, realizing that they don't mean what they say.
Starting point is 06:55:46 you rip a you rip a the veil off the noble rhetoric of these people and expose what's really underneath which is the last thing that today's academics in American universities are are going to do academics for the most part to this day take them at their word and it's just something they have to do it's ideologically convenient and it maintains them and they're very easy easy jobs. Developments in Poli-Zion were no less amazing. In the beginning of April, they also held their all-Russian conference in Moscow. Among its resolutions we see on the one hand a motion to organize the all-Russian Jewish Congress and discussed the problem of emigration to Palestine. On the other hand, the Polay-Zion conference in Odessa had simultaneously announced the party's uncompromising program of class warfare. Through the efforts of Jewish revolutionary democracy, the power over destinies of the Jewish nation was, rested from the dirty grip of wealthy and settled Jews, despite all the resistance of bourgeoisie to the right and the bun to the left.
Starting point is 06:57:02 Do not allow the bourgeois parties to bring in the garbage of the old order. Do not let the hypocrites speak. They do not fight but sweated out the rights of our people on the bended knees in the office of anti-Semitic ministers. They did not believe in the revolutionary action of the masses, end quote. Then in April 1917, when the party had split the radical socialist Poli Zion moved toward the Zionists, breaking away from the main social democratic Poli Zion, which later would join the third international. And remember, this doesn't even mention so far the Masonic groups, the other smaller leftist sex all over the place. those groups you know the masons had penetrated the upper classes of late imperial russian society
Starting point is 06:57:53 to what extent i mean there's been studies on it it's kind of hard in academia to talk about that but but it has been done in academia actually though um and certainly in russian it's been done but that's an entirely separate uh group of people pola zion always remind there there is a there was a masonic lodge with that name or something very close to it, because Zion is always in their nomenclature throughout, throughout Russian, throughout everywhere, the more radical freemations. That's a whole separate category that, you know, because of their secret of nature, it's hard to get a lot of solid information on.
Starting point is 06:58:34 But here, he's just talking about the Jews, because really what he's getting at is that Jews and Marxist revolutionaries were overwhelmingly one of the people. the same, one in the same people. Now, you notice they condemn wealthy and settled Jews. That's interesting, because that's exactly, it sounds like something straight out of Marxist on the Jewish question. You know, but that kind of language will go away after October. Like the two above-mentioned parties, the SJWP also held its statewide conference at which
Starting point is 06:59:12 it had merged with the socialist Zionist forming the United Jewish Socialist Workers Party Farinicta and parting with the idea of any any extraterritorial Jewish nation with its own parliament and national autonomy. Farinicta appealed to the provisional government asking it to declare equality of languages and to establish a council on the affairs of nationalities which would specifically fund Jewish schools and public agencies. At the same, same time, Ferrynickda closely collaborated with the socialist revolutionaries. However, it was Zionism that became the most influential political force in the Jewish milieu. As early as the beginning of March, the resolution of Petrograd's Zionist
Starting point is 07:00:00 Assembly contained the following wording. Quote, the Russian jury is called upon to support the provisional government in every possible way to enthusiastic work, to national consolidating, and organization for the sake of the prosperity of Jewish national life in Russia and the national and political renaissance of Jewish nation in Palestine, end quote. And what an inspiring historical moment it was, March 1917, with the British troops closing on Jerusalem right at that time. Already on March 19th, the proclamation of Odessa Zionists stated, quote, Today is the time when states rearrange themselves on national foundations.
Starting point is 07:00:41 woe to us if we missed a historic opportunity end quote in april the zionist movement was strongly reinforced by the public announcement of jacob schiff who had decided to join zionis quote because of fear of jewish assimilation as a result of jewish civil equality in russia he believes that palestine could become the center to spread ideas of jewish culture all over the world end quote in the beginning of may zionis held a large meeting in the building of Petrograd Stock Exchange, what Zionist hymns performed several times. In the end of May, the All-Russian Zionist Conference was held in the Petrograd Conservatory. It outlined major Zionist objectives.
Starting point is 07:01:25 Cultural Revival of the Jewish Nation. Quote, social revolution and the economic structure of Jewish society to transform the nation of merchants and artisans into the nation of farmers and workers. An increase in emigration to Palestine and mobilization. of Jewish capital to finance the Jewish settlers. Both Jabotinsky's plan on creation of a Jewish legion in the British Army and the I-Trumpel Dorf's plan for the formation of a Jewish army in Russia, which would cross the Caucasus and liberate Eritz Israel, the land of Israel,
Starting point is 07:02:01 from Turkish occupation, have been discussed and rejected on the basis of the neutrality of Zionists in World War I. I didn't know that Zionism had hymns but it's very important that World War I has a year and a half left and the Turkish Empire's on its last legs and if they're going to be able to squeeze in somewhere there
Starting point is 07:02:32 this is a time and they have such power, such influence among the Rothschilds and powerful Jews in Britain that they could make that happen it didn't happen
Starting point is 07:02:44 right away but if there was that might be a reason for the uptick and interest in Zionism among Jews but you know your shift
Starting point is 07:02:56 is talking about yes we want and by the way this comes straight out of the Jewish question from Karl Marx this is what they mean by
Starting point is 07:03:05 the transformation of a nation of merchants and artisans, a nation of farmers and workers, in their own state. They would never do that for, for Royal Russian. But for their own state, even domestically, even in New Qazaria, they would do it. But in and of itself, of course, remember, you know, so Jacob Schiff says, I'm worried about assimilation if given the emancipation. So no one could ever win with them.
Starting point is 07:03:38 they got what they've been complaining about for a long time, and now there's more complaints. And that was a fear. That was an unfounded fear. But, yeah, I know you laugh when they say we're cultural revival, you know, farmers and workers. That's only funny if it concerned a state run by going. Now, they're talking about now this is becoming their state, both domestically and certainly, if the British are able to
Starting point is 07:04:10 wheel and deal with the especially Russian Jews to get them to Jerusalem and of course the plan to create this army all of a sudden they want to fight and possibly Turkey was
Starting point is 07:04:26 you know the Ottoman state at the time was very weak it had been weak for a long time it was artificially propped up you know okay that was very unrealistic but they'd be crossing the caucuses well caucuses is the fundamental nodal point of the Khazar Empire
Starting point is 07:04:47 so in a sense now you see somewhat of a merger between and Schiff is financing all this between certain elements of Zionism and and socialism that the state of Israel will then be a shift says
Starting point is 07:05:07 a center to spread the ideals of Jewish culture all over the world. No, it turned out that Jews in locally, the countries in Europe and in the U.S., they were the people who spread all of this through media and everything else. But before that could be done, the revival of the Jewish nation,
Starting point is 07:05:31 I didn't realize they needed to be revived. They were extremely coherent. at this point. So you have two forces going on, both the, what we would call a social nationalist idea, because you have both nationalism and socialism going on. It's okay for them, but not for anyone else. And then the possibility of immigrating to Palestine. This actually became an issue in the 1970s.
Starting point is 07:06:03 I've spoken about this at great length The only time there were ever any sanctions on the Soviet Union was concerning Jewish immigration to the Middle East Even then Communist states were so Jewish at the higher levels Any kind of mass immigration meant there were You know there was no one to run to bureaucracy Which is why they had to stop it
Starting point is 07:06:27 So there's a lot going on in this this paragraph. But the historic opportunity, yeah, you could picture Zionists being very excited about all of this. It didn't work out. You know, a new Turkey took over who was very, you know, phylo-Semitic and Masonic, but it simply didn't happen. But those are the two elements and both elements are being financed by Jacob Schiff. The Zionist conference decreed to vote during the oncoming local elections for the parties not farther. to the right than the people's socialists, and even to refuse to support constitutional Democrats like DePasmanic, who later complained, quote, it was absolutely meaningless.
Starting point is 07:07:14 It looked like the entire Russian jury, with its petty and large bourgeoisie, are socialists. His bewilderment was not unfounded. The Congress of Student Zionist Organization, Gekover, with delegates from 25 cities and all Russian universities had taken place in the beginning of April in Petrograd. Their resolution stated that the Jews were suffering not for the sake of equality in Russia, but for the rebirth of Jewish nation and the native Palestine. They decided to form legions in Russia to conquer Palestine. Overall, quote, during the summer and fall of 1917, Zionism in Russia continued to gain strength. By September, its members numbered 300,000, end quote. That's not the worst thing in the
Starting point is 07:08:01 world. That would have taken that many away from the revolutionary movement. You know, I have no problem with the creation of a Jewish state somewhere. They're an ethnic group. They have a right to their own state like any of us do. It's, you know, the power that they wield and what they do to the local population and their claims to, you know, all this stuff, the reason, the reasoning for being there and the Khazar issue and all the, that's a big problem. They have no claim to the Middle East. That doesn't mean they don't have a claim somewhere. And that somewhere was never really decided until the end of World War II. And that was decided and completely false pretenses. Well, what we came to learn was, even after they
Starting point is 07:08:48 get their own country, they have to have a diaspora to control other nations and to get resources from other nations so they basically don't have to work so the people in Israel don't have to work yeah I said that what was that a couple months ago I think it came up
Starting point is 07:09:11 that they all can't go to Israel Rabbi Weiss used to say you know the anti Zionists you know Hasidics in Jerusalem that you know this was a secular movement first of all
Starting point is 07:09:27 an ethnic movement. And in order for little Israel function, there has to be a substantial diaspora that's able to take control of the foreign policy, or at least the Middle Eastern foreign policy, of some of the more powerful countries. Especially, you know, after World War II,
Starting point is 07:09:47 it was the U.S.S.S.R was in no position. So there has to be that still, that level of control because, yeah, it can't function otherwise, the so-called Talmud students in Jerusalem don't work. The settlers don't work. Their economy, and we don't know. It's not just American aid, German reparations, and everything else.
Starting point is 07:10:11 It's also the Rothschild family. It's also BlackRock. So many other private organizations sending money to that country. The whole thing turns out to be just a scam. It's no different than if the Gambino family founded their own country somewhere. how would they create it? You know, they're not going to till the fields. So, and that metaphor, I know it's come up many times, and I think it works.
Starting point is 07:10:40 It is less known that in 1917, Jewish Orthodox movements enjoyed substantial popularity second only to Zionists and ahead of the socialist parties, as illustrated by their success during elections of leadership of reorganized Jewish communities. Is that they wanted to go back to the Stettel system? Is that what that is that, is that desire, is that what they were desiring? Well, they were all, they were just excited, that's all. How am I killed? There were rallies. The Jews are together with the Democratic Russia in both love and hatred, public lectures, the Jewish question, and the Russian Revolution.
Starting point is 07:11:21 Citywide assemblies of Jewish high school students in Petrograd and other cities, aside from the general student meetings. In Petrograd, the central organ of Jewish students was established, though not recognized by the Bund and other leftist parties, while many provincial committees for the assistance to the victims of the war, for example, to Jewish refugees and deportees, ceased to exist because at this time, democratic forces needed to engage in broader social activities, and so the central Jewish Committee for providing such aid was formed in April. I'm going to stop you right there.
Starting point is 07:11:58 I'll stop you right there. Victims of the war. Victims of the war. You had thousands of boys coming back with no arms or legs, all kinds of shell shock and blindness from the gas, and their victims of the war are those who had an inconvenience because they were removed from the front lines. that says everything you need to know about this group of people in may the jewish people's union was established to facilitate consolidation of all jewish forces to prepare for the convocation of the
Starting point is 07:12:34 all-russian jewish union and to get ready for the oncoming elections to the constituent assembly in the end of may there was another attempt of unification the steering committee of the jewish Democratic Alliance convened the conference of all Jewish Democratic organizations in Russia. Meanwhile, lively public discussion went on regarding convocation of the All-Russian Jewish Congress. The Bund rejected it as inconsistent with their plans. The Zionists demanded the Congress include on their agenda the question of Palestine and were themselves rejected by the rest. In July, the All-Russian Conference on the Jewish Congress preparation took place in Petrograd.
Starting point is 07:13:16 Because of social enthusiasm, Venevere was able to declare that the idea of a united Jewish nation dispersed among different countries is ripe, and that for now on the, and that from now on the Russian Jews may not be indifferent to the situation of Jews in other countries, such as Romania and Poland. The Congress date was set for December. If you remember, I had speculated on this concept before. Zionism doesn't necessarily have to be and the British ended up colonizing the area the Turks made it very difficult at the end of World War I it wasn't going to happen I don't care what Javatinski says
Starting point is 07:13:59 and his army was ridiculous but you could still have given the total I mean the overorganization of the Jewish population that were so organized because there were few of them but another version, it seems, of Zionism was you can have one single cohesive Jewish nation dispersed among many countries
Starting point is 07:14:26 and that too is a form of Zionism, not necessarily just going to the Middle East. You could have another version, as I've written about more recently, in New Kazadia, which I think now is impossible, based around Rabbi Schneerson, in eastern Ukraine, having no connection, because they don't have any connection with Middle East. Snerson and this, you know, the massive, you know, the largest Jewish community centers, the largest synagogue, the largest Jewish centers in the world were built by the oligarchs in eastern Ukraine. This was going to be in the new center of the Jewish nation. of course this was before the war so and we talked about that
Starting point is 07:15:17 it's not necessarily Zionism means that we leave that maybe but Zionism means at least in part that domestically we are a state within a state and then all the other major countries were states within a state there
Starting point is 07:15:34 and we function together as one single unit that too is Zionism What an upsurge of Jewish national energy it was. Even amid the upheavals of 1917, Jewish social and political activities stood out in their diversity, vigor, and organization. The period between February and November 1917 was the time of blossoming of Jewish culture and health care. In addition to the Petrograd publication, the Jews of Russia, the publisher of the Jewish Week had moved to Petrograd, publication of the Petrograd Torgblot in Yiddish had begun. Similar publications were started in other cities.
Starting point is 07:16:15 The Tarbett and Culture League, a network of secular Hebrew language schools, had established dozens of kindergartens, secondary in high schools, and pedagogic colleges, teaching both in Yiddish and in Hebrew. A Jewish grammar school was founded in Kiev. In April, the first All-Russian Congress on Jewish Culture and Education was held in Moscow. It requested state funding for Jewish schools, a conference with a society of admirers of Jewish language and culture took place. The Habima Theater, the first professional theater in Hebrew in the world, opened in Moscow. There was an exposition of Jewish artists in a conference of the Society on Jewish Healthcare in April in Moscow.
Starting point is 07:16:58 These Jewish activities are all the more amazing given the state of general governmental, administrative, and cultural confusion in Russia, It's easy when you have all this money, when you have all these myths about pogroms, you know, Russians were doing nothing of the kind at this period of time, having no idea what was coming to them, was heading for them. The Jews were, this was, this is why the Jews dominated. This is how the Jews dominate because they're so over-organized. And they're starting with the kids, as you see all these kindergartens and, and, and, you see all these kindergartens and, and, you know, and everything else to create these Talmudic fanatics at a young age. And they get their way as they always do. A major event in the Jewish life at the time was a granting of official permission for Jewish youth to enlist as officers in the Russian army. It was a large-scale move. In April, the headquarters of the Petrograd Military District had issued an order to the commanders
Starting point is 07:17:58 of guards military units to immediately post all Jewish students to the training battalion at Nizhny Novgorod with the purpose of their further assignment to military academies. This is virtually mass-scale promotion of young Jews into the officer ranks. What could go wrong? Already in the beginning of June, 1917, 131 Jews graduated from the accelerated military courses at the Konstantinovsky Military Academy in Kiev's officers. In the summer, in 1917, Odessa, 160 Jewish conditions. were promoted into officers.
Starting point is 07:18:36 In June, 2,600 Jews were promoted to warrant officer rank all over Russia. Don't think they're going to the front, though. No, they're building not just a state within a state, but you can't have a state within a state without an army, within an army. We talked about order number one and what a disaster it was. You know, Kerenzky's idea, the Cornelov revolt. and of course with that level of chaos the Jews took advantage and made it even more cohesive
Starting point is 07:19:10 they definitely listened to their officers this was something that the Jews financed and promoted the war only had a year left it was accelerated to get more Jews as many Jews as humanly possible into the army it was seen as their army at the time you know Kerensky was a high level freemason however how many went to the front I don't know
Starting point is 07:19:31 I don't think it was that many. But it was just czarism and orthodoxy that they despise. Once that was gone, everything changed. Nothing to do with the freedom to do it. It was that now they have to defend it. And this, of course, became the core of what we know as the Red Army later. There is evidence that in some military academy, these junkers used in Tsarist Russia for cadets and young officers,
Starting point is 07:19:56 met Jewish newcomers unkindly, as in the Alexandrovsky Military Academy, after more than 300 Jews had been posted to it. In the Mikhailovsky Military Academy, a group of junkers proposed a resolution that, quote, although we are not against the Jews in general, we consider it inconceivable to let them in the command ranks of the Russian army. End quote. The officers of the Academy disassociated themselves from this statement, and a group of socialist junkers 141 strong, had expressed her disapproval, quote, finding anti-Jewish protests shameful, for the Revolutionary Army, end quote, and the resolution did not pass.
Starting point is 07:20:33 When Jewish warrant officers arrived to their regiments, they often encountered mistrust and enmity on the part of the soldiers for whom having Jews as officers was extremely unusual and strange. Yet the newly minted officers who adopted new revolutionary style of behavior gained popularity lightning fast. I see, that line I don't fully understand what that means. They were quite unpopular. you just had order number one that pretty much dissolves the army that was the purpose was to dissolve the chain of command now the jews are being minted in these accelerated programs order number one is no more now you really have to obey your officers in this case
Starting point is 07:21:16 on the other hand the way jewish junkers from the military academy in odessa behaved was simply striking in the end of march two hundred and forty jews had been accepted and see the academy barely three weeks later on April 18th, Old Style, there was a 1st of May parade in Odessa, and the Jewish junkers marched ostentatiously singing ancient Jewish songs. Did they not understand that Russian soldiers would hardly follow such officers? What kind of officers were they going to become? It would be fine if they were being prepared for the separate Jewish battalions. Yet, according to General Denikin, the year 1917, saw successful formation of all kinds of national regiments, Polish, Ukrainian, Transcaucasian, the Latvian units were already in place for a while, except the Jewish ones. It was the only nationality not demanding national self-determination and military.
Starting point is 07:22:10 And every time when in response to complaints about bad acceptance of Jewish officers and army formation of separate Jewish regiments was suggested, such a proposal was met with a storm of indignation on the part of the Jews and the left and with accusations of a spiteful provocation. Newspapers had reported that Germans also plan to form separate Jewish regiments, but the project was dismissed. It appears, though, that new Jewish officers still wanted some national organization in the military. In Odessa, on August 18th, the Convention of Jewish Officers decided to establish a section, which would be responsible for connections between different fronts, to report on the situation of Jewish officers in the field.
Starting point is 07:22:51 In August, unions of Jewish warriors appeared. By October, such unions were present. at all fronts and in many garrisons. During the October 10th through 15th, 1917 conference in Kiev, the all-Russian Union of Jewish Warriors was founded. Although it was a new revolutionary army, some reporters still harbored hostility toward officer corps in general and to officers epaulets in particular. For instance, A. Alperovich whipped up emotions against officers in general in Bergev Vedamosti stock exchange news as late as May 5th. They didn't see this as a Russian army.
Starting point is 07:23:34 They saw it as a revolutionary army and they had to be in it to make sure that if someone they don't like takes over, it's not going to be able to use the army to shut down leftist protest. That's what this was all about. It was simply infiltration. This was the beginning of the Red Army. We're going to do this next paragraph, and then there's a natural cutoff right there. Okay.
Starting point is 07:24:00 Various sources indicate that Jews were not eager to be drafted as common soldiers even in 1917. Apparently, there were instances when to avoid the draft sick individuals passed off as genuine conscripts at the medical examining boards. And as a result, some district draft commissions began demanding photo ideas from Jewish conscripts. an unusual practice in those simple times. It immediately triggered angry protests that such a requirement goes against the repulsion of national restrictions and the Ministry of Internal Affairs forbade asking for such IDs. Yeah, of course not. They weren't going to be drafted as common soldiers.
Starting point is 07:24:40 Can you imagine? I suppose it would be willing to be drafted that way if they had Jewish officers, but there was no way to know that at the time. The Jews had become genius at dodging the draft. straight up until the Vietnam War which was sort of the American leftist revolution that we're still suffering under started then
Starting point is 07:25:02 but this is yeah they see it here this was a new revolutionary army and hence it's a Jewish army we have to make sure that if someone we don't like takes over if
Starting point is 07:25:20 Kerensky is replaced by someone else, or if there's a military coup, there's going to be a lot of Jewish officers and Jewish soldiers that can fight back. That's the point here. That's the purpose here. We're seeing how the Civil War developed here in very, it's very early stages. All right. We'll pick it up in a couple days and come back with episode 60. I think this is 59, so the next one will be 60. Excellent. All right. Go to the show notes and go to the description on the videos and all the links to support Dr. Johnson are there. Please do that. And, you know, that's your way of thanking him for this information, this ongoing information, which may turn into 200 episodes together at this rate. We shall find out. But please go take care of Dr. Johnson and show him how much you appreciate the work he's doing here. Thank you very much. I appreciate you. Thank you, sir. I'll talk to you in a couple days.
Starting point is 07:26:23 All right, my friend. I want to welcome everyone back to Part 60 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Sultzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you this fine Monday afternoon? Well, it's okay up here. I did the lawn yesterday, which means, you know, probably tonight's going to have to be done again. what strikes me about what we've been talking about here the early Bolshevik revolution almost completely Jewish the fall of the Soviet Union almost completely Jewish
Starting point is 07:27:02 and that as the second aspect of it is going to be a topic I'm going to be addressing very soon you know why did the Jews separate from the USSR in the 1970s which they did there's certainly an economic reason but there are other reasons too and once they separated
Starting point is 07:27:23 what was left became a fairly patriotic like where Putin came out of a non-Judeic they weren't really Marxist anymore and that's when they got into a lot of trouble it makes me laugh the only time that the
Starting point is 07:27:44 there were ever any sanctions on the USSR was over the Jewish question, their immigration, the Jackson-Vannock Amendment. But it strikes at both sides of the revolution. The revolution ends end, the 20s and the 90s, are both loaded with Jews from top to bottom. All right. Let's continue picking up where we left off last time. In the beginning of April, the provisional government issued an order by telegraph. to free without individual investigation all Jews previously exiled as suspects of espionage.
Starting point is 07:28:22 Some of them resided in the now occupied territories, while others could safely return home, and yet many deportees asked for permission to reside in the cities of the European part of Russia. There was a flow of Jews into Petrograd, Jewish population of 50,000 in 1917, and a sharp increase of Jewish population in Moscow, 60,000. That's a huge number. That means they had the, there was a possibility of completely dominating the economy. The only thing that saved the U.S., sorry, the Tsarist Empire here was the royal control over the currency. I think the only real competitors they may have had were the old believers who moved into the merchant trades on a very different foundation.
Starting point is 07:29:14 their profits back into their into their people they also had a very strong sense of persecution and a strong sense of identity um old believer merchants is almost a you know a common thing i have a book on this topic by the way on the old believers in general and um that's probably the only company you know 50 000 at in 1917 in st petersburg um that's more than enough to to to control many elements of what was going on. I don't think they made a huge difference, whether it was the Council of Soviet, whether it was the Mensovics, or the Bolsheviks, or anyone in between, they had one agenda. And if anyone listened to my, well, I recorded it Saturday night.
Starting point is 07:30:07 It won't come on until Thursday. on this very topic and that might be worth to listen but these numbers are huge for the time but don't forget if there was they were able to live wherever they wanted before this you know I've been reading Lenin a lot of Lenin recently and just the dishonesty
Starting point is 07:30:33 all the stuff we've been talking about with the pogroms and everything else he just ramps it up and uses all these very vague abstractions, the Russian worker. He's talking about the party, but rather than say the party, he means the Russian worker. He says the Russian worker. There were no Russian workers involved. Lennon was aware at this point, well, in another few months anyway, that he was a tiny minority in the Bolton. party and probably was at the time
Starting point is 07:31:11 he had to tread very carefully whatever he wrote in the Jews he sounded like an idiot because it was all special pleading um you know um the Leninist writing on the Jewish question is is um
Starting point is 07:31:25 it's almost funny if it didn't lead to so many people being murdered and that's exactly what they were doing at the time uh when this from from from this point the takeover in civil war And right up practically until the 1970s, it was a concerted destruction of Russia in particular. But they would use nationalisms like the Baltics or Ukraine.
Starting point is 07:31:54 They would create those when it suited them, just like now. You know, the regime doesn't care about Ukrainian nationalism. It's just convenient right now. so on Thursday on Radio Albion listen to my my show we you know clearly it's based on some of the stuff we've been talking about in a summary way and um uh it's that you know it's you know uh basically it comes down to the time the topic is everyone talks about the laws that London passed against anti-Semitism but don't really ever cites them I'm talking about it all the time, in fact. But no one mentions that they say, well, I go through them all. From essentially 1918, 1919, when they were first promulgated, to just after Lenna's death. And what they meant and how they were interpreted later on.
Starting point is 07:32:53 That's what I'm talking about here. Because, you know, they knew that they were taking over, but they couldn't have anyone talking about it. Here, they were just not in that position yet, even though, Jews were everywhere in the Mensovic government, but not quite like it was from November on. Russian Jews received less numerous but highly energetic reinforcement from abroad. Take those two famous trains that crossed hostile Germany without hindrance and brought to Russia nearly 200 prominent individuals, 30 in Lenin's, and 160 in Natinson Martov's train, with Jews comprising an absolute majority.
Starting point is 07:33:36 The list of passengers of the extraterritorial trains were for the first time published by V. Berksov. They represented almost all Jewish parties, and virtually all of them would play a substantial role in the future events of Russia. Hundreds of Jews returned from the United States, former emigrants, revolutionaries, and draft escapies. Now they all were the revolutionary fighters and victims of czarism. By order of Kerenzky, the Russian embassy in the USA issued Russian passports to anyone who could provide just two witnesses to testify to identity, literally from the street. The situation around Trotsky's group was peculiar. They were apprehended in Canada on suspicion of connections with Germany. The investigation found that Trotsky traveled not with flimsy Russian papers, but with a solid American passport, inexplicably granted to him despite his short stay in the USA.
Starting point is 07:34:30 And with a substantial sum of money, the sorts of which remained a mystery. A mystery. On June 22nd at the exalted Russian rally in New York City, directed by P. Rutenberg, one-time friend and then a murderer of Gapon, Abraham Kagan, the editor of Jewish newspaper forwards. Wow, they're still around. Yep, they are. The editor of Jewish newspaper forwards addressed Russian ambassador. Ambassador Backmetev on behalf of two million Russian Jews residing in the United States of America. We have always loved our motherland.
Starting point is 07:35:09 We have always sensed the links of brotherhood with the entire Russian nation. Our hordes are loyal to the red banner of Russian liberation and to the national tricolor of the free Russia. He had also claimed that the self-sacrifice of the members of the Naradneyevogia, literally the people as well, a terrorist left wing revolutionary group in czarist Russia, best known for his assassination of Tsar Alexander II, known as the Tsar Liberator for ending serfdom, was directly connected to the fact of an fact of increased persecution of the Jews and that people like Zundelovich, Dyche, Gershouni, Lieber, and Abramovich were among the bravest. I don't even know.
Starting point is 07:35:55 sometimes, I don't know what to do with paragraphs like this. It really depends on my energy level at the time. Of course, you know, the Bolsheviks hadn't taken over yet. This is still the provisional era. World War I is still going on. The trains that brought the, you know, Jews were in 1900, Jewish males were 1.1% of the population of the Russian Empire. Given what was asked of them in the early Soviet era,
Starting point is 07:36:31 you know, there weren't enough Jews to, so, and there certainly weren't enough Russians to fill these roles. They didn't trust them anyway. So they were busing them in, so to speak, from all over the place. Trotsky showed up. I think I mentioned the Canada thing. Of course, he got the passport from a Schiff, associate was paid for and everything
Starting point is 07:36:57 he came with a bunch of I don't know a small army of Jews from Brooklyn he worked at a of course a newspaper it was like Mark's worked at a mainstream newspaper when he was when he was alive writing articles I mean these guys were always in the media loved by the media
Starting point is 07:37:13 and even writing for it Martov, of course, who was the kind of the semi-theoretician of the Mensifix, also a Jew. But, you know, there's so much, there's so much error. There's so much evil here. There's so much sickness here. And the frustrating element is that I know that there are. people out there making a lot of money claiming to be experts on Russian history who'll deny all
Starting point is 07:37:52 of this or claim that it's irrelevant and attack me personally or professionally as a result of this when the evidence is so blatant can you imagine writing a history of the Russian revolution and not mentioning any of this stuff it's absurd what are you getting you end up getting the same kind of mordland emotional stuff that Leonard was writing about the Jews at the time. Lenin took the stuff from the Jewish press and just repeated it in his own in his own work.
Starting point is 07:38:28 I cited, I don't know if there's an English version, but Solomon Schwartz, who was there at the time, who eventually split, he actually split with the Soviets because they didn't kill enough Christians, that the anti-Semitic laws weren't harsh enough. and it is absolutely true
Starting point is 07:38:45 and he fled with Trotsky and created what eventually would be the neoccon movement this obsession with the Soviet Union but only the Stalinist and post-Stolomist Soviet Union which they claimed was very different from what had come before
Starting point is 07:39:02 even though their policies were exactly the same in every way I have tried to figure out how Trotsky differed from Lenin differed from Stalin and I can't maybe personalities, you know, and while Trotky claimed to be an internationalist, he had Jews everywhere around him.
Starting point is 07:39:23 That can't be a coincidence. And it's just this whole thing, the evil that we're seeing unfold here really has an effect on normal people, sensitive people, and normal people. And so they had begun coming back, and not just from New York, judging by the official introduction of discounted railroad fare. for political immigrants traveling from Vladivostok. At the late July rally in Whitechapel, London, it was found that in London alone,
Starting point is 07:39:53 10,000 Jews declared their willingness to return to Russia. The final resolution had expressed pleasure that Jews would go back to struggle for the new social and democratic Russia. Destinies of many returnees, hurrying to participate in the revolution and jumping headlong into the thick of things, were outstanding. Among the
Starting point is 07:40:13 returnees were the famous V. Voladarski, M. Yuritsky, and U. Laren. The latter was the author of the War Communism Economy Program. It is less known that Yakov Svardlov's brother, V, looks like
Starting point is 07:40:28 essentially Benjamin, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Was also among the returnees. Still, he would not manage to rise higher than the deputy Narcom, people's commissioner of communications, and a member of Board of Supreme Soviet of National Economy. Moisei Kartanonov, or Karatanov, Lenin's associate in emigration,
Starting point is 07:40:52 who returned to Russia in the same train with him, quickly gained notoriety by assisting the anarchists in their famous robbery in April. Later, he was Secretary of Perm, Saratov, and Svredloff, Gubkums, and the Secretary of Ural's Bureau of the Central Committee. Semyon Diemannstein, a member of the Bolshevik group in Paris, would become the head of the Jewish commissariat at the People's Commissariat of Nationalities, and later the head of Yvesek at the All-Russian Central Executive Committee. He would, in fact, supervise the entire Jewish life, even though it was called the All-Russian Central Executive. Yeah. Amazingly, at the age of 18, he managed to pass qualifications test to become a rabbi.
Starting point is 07:41:38 and became a member of the Russian Social Democratic Workers Party. All this in, of course, one year. Similarly, members of the Trotsky's group had also fared while, the jeweler G. Melanansky, the accountant Freeman, the typographer A. Minkin-Mensen, and the decorator, Gomburg Zorin, had respectively headed Soviet trade unions, Pravda, to dispatch office of banknotes and securities, and the Petrograd Revolutionary Tribunal.
Starting point is 07:42:08 and these are the people who when they wrote claimed to be speaking for the Russian workers none of these people had any connection with them whatsoever I can't stress that enough they weren't the only actual workers were those of Russian background there were a handful of them but it's easy to forget that
Starting point is 07:42:31 the Bolsheviks had to bust in huge numbers of Jews and almost exclusively Jews from the U.S. Britain and elsewhere to help staff this revolution. They simply didn't trust Russians enough. You know,
Starting point is 07:42:53 the anarchist, of course, the anarchists are going to be persecuted because they don't really, in the bank robbery, that's fine. You know, they take their cut, but that's it. The minute they took over, they were gone. You know, you can't really trust them anyway. They were useful during a civil war in a few places. and that's it. This is, you know, this was a alien government in every way,
Starting point is 07:43:16 an anti-Russian government in every way. It was very, very Orwellian, calling themselves the all-Russian Central Committee, while none of them being Russians. And, of course, the fact that almost all of them changed their names suggests that they needed to show that this wasn't a, or they wanted to show. They were very image conscious.
Starting point is 07:43:40 Bolsheviks were very image conscious, especially in the beginning. Actually, throughout the Soviet Union, they were very concerned with what the West thought of them. And, you know, putting Lenin up in the front
Starting point is 07:43:52 was important because he wasn't obviously Jewish. He had such a mess of an ethnic background. But he wasn't, he wasn't, you know, Edelstein or something like that. Putting him out in front, front was one of the ways of saying, oh, see, this isn't, this isn't a Jewish government, despite all of the ambassadors from England and Netherlands, writing back saying that this is an ethnic movement.
Starting point is 07:44:21 And these are the people who spoke in the name not only of the workers, but the peasants. You imagine these people marching off to a peasant commune. They've never seen a farming before. They hate it. This is this. That's Goyim work. And, of course, while it was a socialist form of a traditional Christian form of family-based socialism, which the commune always was, you would think they'd be happy with that. Well, no, because they're not, I don't care about any of that. It was a Christian thing that had to be destroyed. And instead, they began talking about the collective farms, what it could be called collective farm.
Starting point is 07:45:06 the total opposite of the communes. Collect the farms were huge and random families were thrown in and of course everything collapsed. Within the next few years the Russian economy will go to zero
Starting point is 07:45:27 so to speak. The economy was doing extremely well right up until 1914 and even after 1914 these guys take over for a short time and it gets to the point where they need aid from the West
Starting point is 07:45:43 for everything. I thought the West was anti-communist. They were very anti-Russian. But they lived on American aid for a long time. Woodrow Wilson was a huge part of that. I can only imagine being a Russian farmer at the time
Starting point is 07:46:07 seeing this bunch take over what the hell is going to happen to me or a Russian worker they didn't give a damn about the Russian worker they then were pressed and the exploitation was beyond belief from here on in so obviously
Starting point is 07:46:22 exploitation and hence Marxism wasn't the issue it's my theory and I did it in my book the Soviet experiment it was a way collect or you know the command economy
Starting point is 07:46:40 central planning essentially implies ownership you know they owned everything you can't plan everything unless you own it or control it that that was a way to enrich jewelry beyond you know taking the labor of Russian workers for generations in the past
Starting point is 07:46:56 and when these guys died you know when Trotsky was was axed he was what today would be considered a billionaire same thing for all of these guys they stole they had gold they had gold rubles they had everything they were incredibly wealthy men because they were part of this
Starting point is 07:47:18 revolution it had nothing to do with labor it had nothing to do with workers the proletariat the real proletariat suffered beyond belief under these people. And somehow we have to convince, you know, normies of that.
Starting point is 07:47:41 And frankly, the entire history of the 20th century has to be rewritten right right from the bottom up. Well, I think you upset some low-Ikew Spurgs there by saying Lenin wasn't Jewish because it seems that some people have to feel like they have to convince people that Lenin and even Stalin were Jewish because I don't know why. Yes, Donald definitely wasn't. He went to the Orthodox Seminary for a while. At DGU, the first three letters of his name in English does not mean Jew. The Georgian word for Jew would be Israeli.
Starting point is 07:48:21 So coming from Israel, Israel some kind, their pronunciation of it. DGU has no connection. So that's not true. Lennon wasn't Jewish, but he had Jewish in his background. Possibly a Jewish father, or at least in Grand Prix, he had it in his background. But he never identified that way, unlike Trondke. Names of other returnees after the February Revolution are now completely forgotten, yet wrongly so, as they played important roles in the revolutionary events. For example, the Doctor of Biology, Yvonne Zalkind, had actively participated in the October
Starting point is 07:49:02 coup and then, in fact, ran Trotsky's People Commissariat of Internal Affairs. Semyon Kogan-Semkhov became the political commissar of Ischief's weapons and steel factories in November 1918, that is, he was in charge of the vindictive actions during suppression of major uprising of Ishvesh workers, known for its large, in many thousands, victims' toll in a single incident on the Sobernia Square in Isfesh, 400 workers were gunned downed. You would think I would know. Go, yeah. Yeah, let me stop you there.
Starting point is 07:49:37 This is supposed to be the spokesman for the proletariat. November, 1918, they'd been in power roughly a year. Sort of. The Civil War had just begun. They had some of the cities. They had Odessia. They had Petersburg. whenever any labor would stick up their heads and complain, they could gun down.
Starting point is 07:50:02 The arts government didn't do that, at least not without provocation. In this case, they were gunned down. I don't know how anyone could believe that these people had any concern with workers whatsoever. Socialism was just a pretext for them to take the products of their labor. Tobinson Krasnoshchekov later headed the entire Far East as the Secretary of the Far East Bureau and the head of local government. Gersfield Stashevsky, under the pseudonym Verkovsky, was in command of a squad of German POWs and turncoats, that is, he laid foundation for the Bolshevik international squads.
Starting point is 07:50:39 In 1920, he was ahead of the clandestine intelligence at the Western Front. Later in peacetime, he, on orders of Checa Presidium, had organized intelligence network in the Western Europe. he was awarded the title of Honorary Czechist. Among returnees were many who did not share Bolshevik views, at least at the time of arrival, but they were nevertheless welcomed into the rank of Lenin and Trotsky's party. For instance, although Jakob Fishman, a member of the Military Revolutionary Committee of the October coup, had deviated from the Bolshevik mainstream by participating in the left socialist
Starting point is 07:51:16 revolutionary insurrection in July 1918, he was later accepted into the Russian Communist party of Bolsheviks and entrusted with a post in the military intelligence administration of the Red Army. Or take Yefam-Yarchuk, who had returned as an anarchist syndicalist but was delegated to the Petrograd Soviet to reinforce the Kronstad Soviet. During the October coup, he had brought a squad of sailors to Petrograd to storm the Winter Palace. The returnee, I'm not pronouncing that. I can, I can, I can, Eichenbaum, the brother of the literary scholar, was a consistent supporter of anarchism and the ideologist, the ideologist, of Machno, a Ukrainian separatist anarchist movement. He was the head of the Revolutionary Military Soviet in the Machno army. We know that Machno was more of an advantage than the detriment of Bolsheviks, and as a result, Volun was later merely forced to emigrate together with a dozen or other anarchists. The academic establishment will tell you that there were three sides to the Russian Civil War.
Starting point is 07:52:31 The whites, the reds, and what they call the Greens. There is a kernel of truth to that. The Greens would be Nester Machno, who pretended to be Kalsaki was not. They could still call him one, though. Nester Machno was probably the best known of that. he had a lot of misgivings about what london was saying but he worked for them anyway eventually any of these people you know would have been purged regardless and um but but that's just a way for them to not support the what they can't support the reds clearly
Starting point is 07:53:09 that would be supporting Stalin most many of them do but they really have trouble with it because coming out and saying the reds were right but they certainly can't support report the whites. So they created this third force that they call the Greens, which they claim the peasants were involved in, which was not true. Well, the whites certainly failed to
Starting point is 07:53:33 connect with the peasant, endless peasant uprisings. But so did these guys. These guys didn't know the first thing about peasants, just like Machino didn't know the first thing about a Cossack. And that's a creation really. There's a kernel of truth to it. But for the most part, it's a creation of the academic establishment that there was this third side that, you know, non-Marxists in the academy that liberals, I should say, can accept and not have to feel bad about supporting the red. They're liberals.
Starting point is 07:54:09 They're not Marxists. And so this green side is a way to support or to fight the whites without having to, you know, give in to supporting the Redge because of course they weren't exactly liberal and it's there's a lot of books on it now I've read them all
Starting point is 07:54:28 and beyond that you know they do say that a lot of these guys were not necessarily Bolsheviks it really didn't matter a lot of them were so
Starting point is 07:54:43 pseudo intellectual they would write about workers and peasants they had no idea what was going on in Russia at the time but they eventually got with the program. Some of them were eliminated, but not all of them, not the majority of them. And so the Jewish interest was the main one. Now, over the years, I have read everything I could in Russian and English on these different groups, subgroups,
Starting point is 07:55:13 on the far left at this period of time and trying to find a difference among them a significant difference that would matter is very difficult so I have the feeling that they're based more on personalities and agendas rather than actual ideological goals one of the reasons that the Reds won and it's an important reason was that Lenin and Trotsky
Starting point is 07:55:46 enforced total theological uniformity these are our goals and you better go along with the program the whites really didn't have a program white generals were all over the place or all dispersed among the empire
Starting point is 07:56:01 all fighting on different fronts some were royalists some were more liberal some were against the monarchy some were very orthodox some weren't they had no firm agenda.
Starting point is 07:56:15 There was nothing to fight for. So at a minimum, they're fighting for a negative. We're going to die to make sure that the Soviets don't, the Reds don't take over. That's not as good as having a positive program to fight for, like Orthodoxy. That would have had full support in that case. The best Russian white generals. Capelle, Dietrichs, my two favorites. again, German names
Starting point is 07:56:42 They were the strictest orthodox And the strictest Royalist And they did extremely well Despite being more minor Having smaller armies Because they had a full agenda That people understood
Starting point is 07:56:59 People were born and raised with So by the time the Civil War was over They realized that that kind of royalist they had to be destroyed they had to be killed and the peasants that supported them
Starting point is 07:57:16 pretty much all the time some were old believers and peasants were heavily old believers so that that was a whole separate issue but had to be liquidated because the best performing
Starting point is 07:57:28 of the white armies were those under the strictest royalist generals like Dietrichs who was a very very good man The expectations of returnees were not unfounded. Those were the months marked by a notable rise to prominence for many Jews in Russia. Quote, the Jewish question exists no longer in Russia.
Starting point is 07:57:50 End quote. Still in the newspaper essay by D. Aisman and Sura Alperovic, the wife of a merchant who moved from Minsk to Petrograd, had expressed her doubts. So there is no more slavery, and that's it. So what about the things that Nicholas of yesterday did to us in Kishinov? In another article, David Isman thus elaborated his thought, quote, Jews must secure the gains of revolution by any means, without any qualms, any necessary sacrifice must be made. Everything is on the stake here, and all will be lost if we hesitate. Even the most backward parts of Jewish mass understand this. No one questions what would happen to Jews if the counter-revolution prevails, end quote.
Starting point is 07:58:31 He was absolutely confident that if this happens, There would be mass execution of Jews. Therefore, quote, the filthy scum must be crushed even before it had any chance to develop. In embryo, their very seed must be destroyed. Jews will be able to defend their freedom. I just said that without realizing it was going to be in the next, in the very next paragraph. The Talmudic mentality, you know, you don't have to be a student directly at the Talmud to have a Talmudic mentality. You know, Jews still were a very separate group of people
Starting point is 07:59:06 And that way of thinking Especially, you know, the superiority Gentile women as prostitutes, Gentiles as animals, occasionally useful animals But now they didn't really have to worry What people thought of them. You know, in the past, you know,
Starting point is 07:59:24 You know, they couldn't carry out, you know, the best of the Gentiles should be killed. Well, you really really can't do that in Russia before this because, you know, people would turn on you. Here, they don't have to do that. There was no question as to who these people were, which is why there had to be this list of laws and decrees from Lenin that Stalin went out of his way to enforce and mention it to an Israeli, sorry, an American Jewish journalist against anti-Semitism. And the definition of anti-Semitism back then, Lenin actually said, I still remember, I just did it, so
Starting point is 08:00:06 Lenin said, anti-Semitism is spreading enmity against Jews. Now, that's the opposite of a definition. That doesn't tell me anything. Essentially anything that Jews don't like. But the main thing was that you can't talk about them essentially being in control of the red government. They were the workers. The workers fought for Lenin. The workers fought for Yeah, there may have been a handful of holdout to, who, you know, like the monarchy, well, you know, they're just, they need to be educated. But otherwise, the workers fought for us. It's almost a type of manifesting. I think if they say it enough times, it's going to be true.
Starting point is 08:00:50 But we remember in the 1905 revolution, they had to go into the factories with rifles and force them to, to strike. That's the only way they would get them to do it. Again, they were paid fairly well. Russian workers were paid very well, especially in relation to Western Europe. So that mentality has not gone away. And you notice what he says. Nicholas of yesterday did it to it.
Starting point is 08:01:19 Nicholas killed us in Kishnan. They really believe that. Jewish intellectuals believe that. Lenin believed. Lenin said it. That's how bad it got, this twisted mentality. Of course, we were innocent victims. We did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 08:01:37 But Nicholas signed a document and sent henchmen out to go kill Jews for no reason. They really truly believe that. And it's being preached today, every day on the history channel, the stupid, you know, historians on YouTube and all these guys. But there is no basis for any of that in, the actual evidence. That's one of the main reasons. This book is so wonderful. Once it was translated into English, now I read it in the original, these pieces of it, in the original when it first came out, and people were talking about it. But he's uncovering stuff
Starting point is 08:02:17 that no one had before. The Union of the Russian people had a lot of this information, but Solzhenitsyn went a step further, and plus he Solzhenitsyn. This is a huge crisis. for them you couldn't have picked a better book for us to go this long on because because for those two reasons at least crushed an embryo and even their very seed it was already pretty much a bolshevik program though expressed in the words of the old testament yet whose seed must be destroyed monarchists but they were already breathless all their activists could be counted on fingers so it could only be those who had taken a stand against the unbridled, running wild Soviets, against all kinds of committees and mad crowds, those who wish to halt the breakdown of life in the country,
Starting point is 08:03:07 prudent, ordinary people, former government officials, and first of all, officers, and very soon the soldier general Kornilov. There were Jews among those counter-revolutionaries, but overall, that movement was the Russian national one. What about press? In 1917, the influence, of print media grew. The number of periodicals and associated journalists and staff was rising. Before the Revolution, only had a limited number of media workers qualified for draft deferral, and only those who were associated with newspapers and printing offices who were established in the pre-war years. They were classified as defense enterprises despite their
Starting point is 08:03:47 desperate fight against governmental and military censorship. But now, from April, on the assistance of the publishers, press privileges were expanded with respect to the number of workers exempt from military service, newly found that political newspapers were henceforth also covered by the exemption, sometimes fraudulently, as the only thing needed to qualify was maintaining a circulation of 30,000 for at least two weeks. Draft privileges were introduced on the basis of youth for the political emigrants and those released from exile, everything that favored employment of new arrivals in the leftist newspaper.
Starting point is 08:04:23 At the same time, rightest newspapers were being closed. Malenkaya Gazeta, Narania Gazeta, were shut down for accusing Bolsheviks of having links with Germans. When many newspapers published the telegrams fraudulently attributed to the empress and the fake was exposed, it was an innocent joke of a telegraph operator lady, for which, of course, she was never disciplined, and so they had to retract their pieces. Versaiev Vest Vedomosti, for instance, had produced such text, quote, it turned out that neither the special archive at the main department of Post and Telegraph where the Royal Telegraph were stored nor the head of the Office of Telegraph
Starting point is 08:05:04 contain any evidence of this correspondence. See, they presented it as if telegrams were real, but all traces of their existence had been skillfully erased. What a brave, free press. These revolutionaries always talk about, this is the same in the color revolutions today. It's happening right now. they talk about a free press
Starting point is 08:05:26 or I think the phrase now is independent press which is synonymous with the press controlled by corporate entities who are overwhelmingly liberal ideologically the Jews had penetrated the media in Russia for a long time and
Starting point is 08:05:44 the royalists I mean the orthodox did okay on a religious foundation but not on a political one John of Cromstack came the closest, but there was no real organs, not until the Civil War, not until well, Dietrich's.
Starting point is 08:06:03 Did you have an explicit militant organization fighting for the monarchy? They had, I said this before, but they just had no conception of propaganda. The end of Nicholas's reign, he still you know there was no he should have been organizing
Starting point is 08:06:24 I know it's easy for us to say now but he should have been organizing royalist groups all over the place he was of a popular man youth groups and everything else now the nationalist movements in Europe in the 30s they actually did that
Starting point is 08:06:42 they had realized Nicholas's mistake he came from a very much older vision of royal politics it was orthodox It was strictly orthodox It was ethnic But otherwise Politics were
Starting point is 08:06:58 You know Ideologies were vulgar That was only for the left And so you had No despite the popularity Despite all of Nicholas's achievements And the royal family in general You never had
Starting point is 08:07:14 Until the Civil War Any kind of militant organizations Around the country around the country defending it and fighting for it simply didn't happen so rather than rather than that it came out in pogroms but if they had actual militant organizations you wouldn't have programs pogroms wouldn't have happened they wouldn't have been as wild and crazy the black hundreds of course you know the russian people or there were two very different things came out in 1905 1906 they had 50,500,000 members.
Starting point is 08:07:49 That was the closest you can get. And the royal government did not support them. Stolipin didn't like them at all. And during the war, yeah, you know, saying that there's a connection with the, Alexander was German. And hence, maybe she's in bed with them. And so they would shut down actually good newspapers for stuff like this. You know, in this intervening period, before the Bolshevik takeover,
Starting point is 08:08:25 they were building their press foundation. And they had no real opposition. It was terrible. The frustration, you know, now, after the Civil War was over, an exile, you had book after book after book. I have them all here on Russian royalism and everything. but not before then it's it's a shame i don't know what else to say about well we uh we finished up a little early so let me ask you a question and get your take on this uh you had already mentioned
Starting point is 08:09:00 the talmud and i try not to bring the talmud up too much because a lot of people use it as try to bludgeon people with it and but what a lot of people will say is Well, most Jews have never even read the Talmud. And, you know, what I try to express to people is that most don't have to. If your recent ancestors have read the Talmud, you will be influenced by, if you grow up in a home where if you're not one of, if you don't grow up in one of these completely atheistic Jewish homes, and even if you do, and it's to a certain extent, Talmudism is just there. It's going to be, the kind of attitude is going to be passed on just as, I mean, you know, you have people who are atheists who are more moral and act more along the line with the Bible than a lot of Christians do. There's just going to be an influence there that will survive over generations just because it becomes part of your culture. Yeah, I was kind of, you know, a little while ago I mentioned that concept.
Starting point is 08:10:16 You don't have to be a Talmud scholar to be Talmudic. You don't have to be in a lodge to be Masonic. You can still have those, it's in the air. It is in the culture. It is how they're raised. They're raised to believe that they are superior, that they're intellectually given. God. They are essentially, you know, collectively God. You know, some, God is this very vague, especially amongst the Hasidic, God's this very vague flux, you know, spoken about the Sephiroth and stuff like that in other contexts, but in the Kabbalah. God is really nowhere to be found there. That's not quite atheism.
Starting point is 08:11:06 and Moses Hess, his whole purpose was to connect socialist materialism with basic Talmudism and he was successful. Now, I've read large chunks of the Talmud when I was in grad school, which was, I haven't mentioned that before. The Sassino edition we had there, still remember, it was in the basement, the B section. starting with B beautifully, beautifully bound, took up a whole shelf. And when the web came out
Starting point is 08:11:46 and I learned about it, I went to the book of the Sanhedron, a few others that would get come up in like, you know, like Michael Hoffman's stuff. And of course, there's a lot of cold words in there. You have to know what the code words mean. So even reading a page took forever. That's why Michael Hoffman's book,
Starting point is 08:12:04 Judaism discovered. um is is brilliant because he can he could synthesize that down into a normal way and he could he agrees with us you don't have to be reading talmud every day a normal person can't read talmud every day um but you know you don't have to do that to be talmudic you know it comes down to the concept that these people non-jews aren't really human they're mud we could use them as a golem whenever we need them sometimes they're useful sometimes
Starting point is 08:12:36 they're not. We can't do anything that we really piss them off, so we would be hurt by it. But in the times of the time of the Russian Civil War, that had all changed. It wasn't like you had these rabbinical Jews, you know, protesting against the Reds. It never happened. They were supportive. They saw the basics of Talmudism manifest in the Red Army. in a very, you know, very simple sense.
Starting point is 08:13:09 So they don't like the Zionists very much. That's true. But the Zionists at this point were almost completely irrelevant. Not until World War II did they ever really matter again. But this was a Jewish movement, a Jewish government, a Jewish press. And you had Jewish supporters. in Western Europe preaching to the Gentiles.
Starting point is 08:13:39 You know, we're just like you. We love our motherland, as we heard before. Because the only principle they have is power, that they are God, that our taking over is something. We will become God that way. Adam Cadman is the Antichrist. I mean, that's the ultimate, the new man.
Starting point is 08:14:03 We need some Gentiles around, of course. So, an overwhelming majority of Jews are atheists. It really doesn't matter one way or the other. Their ideology is not affected by it. Again, Trotsky pretended to be an internationalist saying that it didn't matter, but, of course, everyone he hired,
Starting point is 08:14:27 everyone that was around him was a Jew, which is obviously not a coincidence. But it was that Jewish fanaticism, that neuroticism, that paranoia, that served them very well. Not to mention Western support, tons of Western support, media support, and a firm agenda, which, of course, most of it wasn't even real. What they said they were going to do was not what they did. And the White Army really was all that was left, and it was so dispersed, even though it was larger. they were all over the place ideologically some of them you know
Starting point is 08:15:09 initially it started because Kunilov saw himself as fighting for the provisional government against the Bolshevik that's what you know the initial white army the Cossacks didn't think that but the Cossacks thought they were fighting for their own independence in South Russia you know it was a it was a
Starting point is 08:15:24 kaleidoscope that's not what you want during a civil war the Reds are an excellent example of how to win one of these I'll repeat myself again the whites never ever got a penny not a bullet
Starting point is 08:15:40 not a dime from the Western powers never ever they were entrusted they were too Russian there were too many monarchists in it and as a British used to say there are too many anti-Semites in it
Starting point is 08:15:58 I think there was one attempt I think it was Daniken General Danikin a British representative there said okay we'll support your movement
Starting point is 08:16:10 if you purge it of all anti-Semines so they'd have like three people left you know oh and by the way you're going to have to you'll have to have
Starting point is 08:16:24 all of the debts of the previous government when you take over to start paying that now you know designed to be rejected. They supported the Reds
Starting point is 08:16:36 definitely once they were winning, once they became, you know, the truth is when the interventionists came to try to keep Russia in the war against Germany. And then after that, trying to protect the ammunition stores, they could have smashed the Petersburg
Starting point is 08:17:00 Soviet in two seconds. And they knew that. They didn't. Trotsky says this. Lenin says this. The West could have smashed this government in embryo, and they refused. Now, I don't think they knew a whole lot about what Bolshevism was. So, you know, capital didn't care. Capital was heavily, capital was starting to invest already in the new Russia, the new Soviet Union. And the back and forth between the Jews, both sides of the east and the west, was already taking place. And, of course, you have the most short-sighted attempt to kick Russia out of the war by financing the revolutionaries by the Germans, you know, the world's most short-sighted policy ever.
Starting point is 08:17:57 and then, of course, they were exhausted, and Germany was just a conduit then from Jewish loans, from New York and London. So it was a complete disaster, and you're seeing the foundations of this here. You're seeing the foundations of it with everything we've been reading about over the last week or so. Well, the next section we have here is, looks like it'll be a little longer episode. I think we have another break like four and a half to five pages from this. So we'll come back in a couple of days and get through another part of this section. This is actually one of the longer chapters in the book. So people are going to have to wait for what they've been anticipating the whole time.
Starting point is 08:18:47 Well, this is part of it. This is the immediate predecessor to it. Right. Yeah. Well, let's end this here. encourage you to go to the show notes and to go to the description of the videos and all the links there for how you can support Dr. Johnson's work. And please do that. If you haven't done, you know, if you can't get to Patreon and support him, give him a one-timer. And yeah,
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