The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Episodes 61-70

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

8 Hours and 46 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Here are e...pisodes 61-70 in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to welcome everyone back to part 61 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenysohn. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I forgot to take the garbage out, you know, on Garbage Day, and it's full. So now I don't want to throw anything away. I'm living in paranoia here. Oh, and besides that, I'm doing my daily nationalist Radio Albion on the president of Mexico. It's shocking how little there is about her from our people. people out there.
Starting point is 00:00:32 But it's her, her biography and her family's biography, it's like if I, it's like I wrote it. It's so cliche. I mind, you know, I almost didn't believe it. She's like half Ashkenazi, half Sephardic, right? Something like that. Yeah, an uncle or something. But her family was involved in some of these events. there was an article on her on Jacobin awful,
Starting point is 00:01:04 this romanticizing her and her grandparents was going back and forth, back and forth. Parents, no, grandparents were going back and forth from the U.S. to the Russian Empire and they gave no explanation as to why. And we've already discussed that. They have been going back and forth for financing, bringing men over and everything.
Starting point is 00:01:24 So her family is actually involved in some of this stuff. Oh, I mean, I'm so shocked that she just, you know, didn't come out of nowhere, you know, the family came over here, worked 24 hours a day for five years and then bought a city, you know, like Hartford, Connecticut, you know, the story in Hartford, Connecticut. Two brothers came over here. For five years, they worked without fail and without rest. and then they bought Hartford, Connecticut while Americans were off fighting World War II. Yeah, well, I know you're shocked, but I just want you to take a deep breath.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Don't let this get to you. You know, we've been at this a long time. Just be cool. All right, all right. Flood pressure meant, okay, I'm good, I'm good. All right. Yeah, all right, if you say so. Pick it up where we left off last time.
Starting point is 00:02:24 As early as in the beginning of March, the prudent Venever had warned the Jewish public. Quote, apart from love for freedom, self-control is needed. It is better for us to avoid highly visible and prominent posts to not hurry to practice our rights. End quote. We know that Venever and also Dan, Lieber, and Branson, at different times, have been offered minister positions, but all of them refused, believing that Jews should not be present in Russian government. The attorney Venever could not, of course, reject a sensational appointment to the Senate, where he became one of four Jewish senators, together with G. Blumenfeld, O. Rosenberg, and I. Gurevich.
Starting point is 00:03:06 There were no Jews among the ministers, but four influential Jews occupied posts as deputy ministers. V. Gurevich was a deputy of Avkentiev, the minister of internal affairs. S. Lurie was in the Ministry of Trade and Industry, S. Schwartz, and A. Ginsburg Naumov in the Ministry of Labor. And P. Rutenberg should be mentioned here, too. From July, A. Galpern became the chief of the administration of the provisional government after Vianabukov. The director of First Department in the Ministry of Affairs was A. Mendelstam. The assistance of the head of the Moscow military district was second lieutenant sure from may the head of foreign supply department at general staff was a mickleson the commissar of the provisional government in the field construction
Starting point is 00:04:02 office was nam glasburg several jews were incorporated by churnoff into the central land committee responsible for everything related to allotting land to peasants of course most of those were not key posts having negligibly small influence when compared to the principal role of the executive committee whose ethnic competition would – ethnic composition would soon become a hotly debated public worry. Well, in this first section here, they're worried about being exposed, and this happens all the time. One of my favorite papers I've written was on the Soviet People's Republic of Hungary right after World War I
Starting point is 00:04:45 and it was 100% Jewish Stalin said can you at least get you know have a meaningless like presidency that has no power but the media focuses on and get a non-Jew in there and it took a while
Starting point is 00:05:03 but they found one guy I forget his name starts with an S and they kind of Sandos or something like that and they stuck them there my God, even we've been talking about in
Starting point is 00:05:18 Seinbaum's family and you know from the old Russian Empire where they came at Cuba and Mexico their communist parties were heavily Jewish at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I can't even conceive of that but it's absolutely true. Lithuania is a different story of course, there's was was totally Jewish but they come out here and say it. We don't want to be present in Russian government. We don't want people to notice us.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I guess enough people were worried. Well, enough people knew their real names. They didn't like this idea. But it's often been said that, you know, the provisional state was kind of a Masonic state, and the Bolshevik one was Jewish. No, they both were. But if they had to refuse posts,
Starting point is 00:06:11 because this is a huge concern. They know, you know, it's still a fairly healthy society, especially at the workers and peasants, and anything can happen to them if they push too hard. So, yeah, so they put them in lower-level positions, but given the fact of their cohesiveness and over-organization, they ran the place. You know, they keep saying, you know, Lenin was a tiny minority in his own party, and he was aware of that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 To some extent, Kerensky was too. And, of course, they couldn't admit it, but there was a lot of pressure on them. And then this concept of the Central Land Committee, these people know zero. How many times, how many hours have we spent on the land trying to make them farmers? And now they're in charge of agriculture. And it gets worse with the Bolsheviks. People who know nothing about farming, hate farming, hate farmers, now are not only in charge of it, but are claiming to be the representatives of the soldiers,
Starting point is 00:07:35 workers, and peasants, republic. but among Jews that's why it says this is a hotly debated public worry well not anymore but at the time it certainly was you know this was a as much of a Jewish cultist state as anything else but but but the freemasonic lodges were also very heavily involved they were kind of irrelevant as far as the bolsheviks were concerned because they had gone beyond it
Starting point is 00:08:04 um there weren't even necessary although I think Trotky had joined a lodge but joining the lower level staff that makes a lot of sense for them from their point of view and at the time well in 1900 this is 1917 but in 1900
Starting point is 00:08:25 the Jewish population the Jewish male population of the Russian Empire was 1.1% of the total so you add women And it's, you know, roughly double that. So around 2%. So clearly, this isn't a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:08:46 They are the revolutionary group. The other revolutionary sect. And it's a shame that the Tsar didn't get rid of him when he could have. But as we said many times in the past, he was stuck. You know, he was in a terrible position as far as the Jews were concerned, getting bad advice from a lot of people. also people who were in Masonic lodges Nicholas hated the lodges
Starting point is 00:09:08 and everything about them but that's where we are here this is a very Jewish government despite and it's it's very Jewish government even though they were trying to hide that fact and they were aware they were subjectively aware that we have to hide
Starting point is 00:09:24 the Jewish nature of this government at the August government conference dedicated to the disturbing situation in the country apart from the representatives of Soviets, parties, and guilds, a separate representation was granted to the ethnic groups of Russia, with Jews represented by eight delegates, including G. Sliusburg, M. Lieber, and Friedman, G. Landau, and O. Grusenberg. The favorite slogan of 1917 was, expand the revolution. All socialist parties worked to implement it. I. O. Levin writes, quote,
Starting point is 00:09:58 There is no doubt that Jewish representation in the Bolshevik and other parties, which facilitated, expanding the revolution, Mensheviks, socialist revolutioners, etc. With great respects to both general Jewish membership and Jewish presence among the leaders greatly exceeds the Jewish share in the population of Russia. This is an indisputable fact. While its reasons should be debated, its factual veracity is unchallengeable, and its denial is pointless. End quote.
Starting point is 00:10:29 A certainly convincing explanation of this phenomenon by Jewish inequality before the March Revolution is still not sufficiently exhaustive, end quote. Members of central committees of the socialist parties are known. Interestingly, Jewish representation in the leadership of Menshevik, the right and the left socialist revolutionaries and the anarchists was much greater than among the Bolshevik leaders. At the Socialist Revolutionary Congress, which took place in the end of May and beginning of June 1917, 39 out of 318 delegates were Jewish and out of 20 members of the Central Committee of the party elected during the Congress, seven were Jewish.
Starting point is 00:11:06 A. Gautz was one of the leaders of the right-wing faction, and M. Natinson was among the leaders of the left socialist revolutionaries. What a despicable role awaited Nathanson, the wise mark, one of the founders of Russian Narad Nishdov. Populism. During the war, living abroad, he was receiving financial aid from Germany. In May 1917, he returned to Russia in one of the extraterritorial trains across Germany in Russia, he had immediately endorsed Lenin and threw his weight in support of the latter's goals at dissolving the constituent assembly. Actually, it was he who had voiced the idea first, though Lenin, of course, needed no such nudge. Well, it should be pointed out that between, let's say, March of 19, summer of 1917 and 1921,
Starting point is 00:12:02 Those numbers will increase. Now, it's normally said that the Civil War ended in 1921. The White Armies had been defeated. However, there was an endless and very violent uprisings of the peasants everywhere and constantly all over Russia. And I think that should be included as a Russian Civil War. some of these same people are welcome the Germans in 1941
Starting point is 00:12:35 so going back and forth we talked about this last time from Britain to the Russian Empire the U.S. the Russian Empire they're bringing more Jews over there's only so many of them now I think what this guy means So, yeah, it's denial is pointless, meaning you can't deny that these were, and to say that it greatly exceeds a due share in the population, that's a bit of an understatement.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But what he means by the trying to say what the reason is, well, they're trying to justify it. This happens all the time. But whatever Jews were there were because the Tsar, you know, created the pogroms or something like that. that's still being said today yeah all the names are known you know it's not like this is some and I think I've said this before
Starting point is 00:13:35 but you know you debate this stuff with with people and you say okay listen if you don't think that this is true if you don't think that the Bolsheviks and the Mensviks were a overwhelmingly Jewish organization I'll send you all their names
Starting point is 00:13:50 and when you see that, you know, from Jewish sources, I mean, from their own, there's no denying it, you'll change your mind, right? And of course, they never will, because it has nothing to do with the truth of the matter. Oh, and I should note that the right-wing faction, that's relative to Marxism. So the left-wing faction wanted to slaughter, let's say, a thousand priests a day, the right-wing wanted to slaughter 25 priests a day. Local government elections took place in the summer. Overall, socialist parties were victorious, end quote, Jews actively participated in the local and municipal work in a number of cities and towns outside of the former Pala settlement, end
Starting point is 00:14:33 quote. For instance, socialist revolutionary O. Minor became head of the Moscow city Duma, member of the Central Committee of the Bunde-Wanstein-Rachmiel, of the Minsk Duma, Menshevich-I-Polonski, of the Akaterinislav Degchertgov, of the Saratov Duma, G. Schrader had become the mayor of Petrograd, and A. Gensberg Namov was elected a deputy mayor of Kiev. Now, I want to point out that these elections, no right-wing party was allowed to compete. That goes for the assembly itself. And these elections were known for a very low turnout, partially for that reason. You had just a handful of people voting these people in
Starting point is 00:15:22 and of course the fraud the intimidation factor was everywhere I know for the constituent assembly election the one that they had it was in the
Starting point is 00:15:32 it was in the low 40s 40% I could be wrong it's something like that I've written on that before too so these these weren't normal elections no one was elected here
Starting point is 00:15:45 and anyone who wanted to vote had a choice among different shades of Jewish socialism. But most of these persons were gone with the October coup, and it was not they who shaped the subsequent developments in Russia. It would become the lot of those who now occupied much lower posts, mostly in the Soviets.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They were numerous and spread all over the country. Take, for instance, Kinchuk, head of the Moscow Soviet of workers' deputies, or Nassimovic and M. Trilisser of the U. Urquotst Soviet. The latter would later serve in the central executive committee of the Soviets to Siberia and become a famous Czechist. All over the provinces, quote, Jewish socialist parties enjoyed large representation in the Soviets of workers and soldiers' deputies, end quote. They were also prominently presented at all Russian Democratic conferences in September 1917, which annoyed Lenin so much that he had even demanded surrounding.
Starting point is 00:16:50 the Alexandrinsky theater with troops and arresting the entire assembly. The theater superintendent, Comrade Nashitir, would have to act on the order, but Trotsky had dissuaded Lenin. And even after the October coup, the Moscow Soviet of soldiers deputies had among its members, according to Bucharan, dentists, pharmacists, et cetera, representative of trades as close to the soldiers profession as to that of the Chinese emperor. and that's the key fact these people knew nothing
Starting point is 00:17:22 about the life of the laborer and certainly knew nothing about the life of the peasant and I kind of kicked myself in establishment history books say oh well Bolivics had support amongst the urban proletariat no they didn't they never did
Starting point is 00:17:40 we already discussed this or in this particular case they had no choice they had to go with one or the other and beyond all that they weren't telling the truth if they were going to campaigning is not quite the same as we have today
Starting point is 00:17:56 but when they were looking for votes they're not going to say that we're going to burn down all the churches I'm not going to say that openly so so people didn't know really what they were voting on and they were crafting their message to whoever whatever group they were talking to
Starting point is 00:18:17 So, you know, that's the situation that he had, you know, Chinese emperor that's exactly right. They didn't know the first thing. They were not soldiers. They were not workers. They were not peasants. They were from the upper class of the merchant classes in Poland, in New York, and Ukraine, wherever else they were brought into the Russian Empire. They had no connection to Russia. let alone any of these other professions.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But above all of that, above all of Russia, from the spring to the autumn of 1917, stood the power of one body, and it was not the provisional government. It was the powerful and insular executive committee of the Petrograd Soviet, and later, after June, the successor to its power, the all-Russian central executive committee, it was they who had, in fact, ruled over Russia. While appearing solid and determined from outside, in reality, they were being torn apart by internal contradictions and interfactional ideological confusion. Initially, the executive committee of the Petrograd Soviet of workers and soldiers' deputies
Starting point is 00:19:27 unanimously approved the order number one, but later was doubtful about the war, whether to continue destroying army or to strengthen it. Quite unexpectedly, they declared their support for the freedom loan, thus they had incensed the Bolsheviks but agreed with the public opinion on this issue, including the attitudes of liberal Jews. The presidium of the first all-Russian CEC of the Soviet workers and soldiers' deputies, the first governing Soviet body, consisted of nine men. Among them were the social revolutionaries,
Starting point is 00:20:00 Agatz and M. Gendelman, the Menshevik, F. Dan, and the member of the Bund, M. Lieber. In March at the All-Russian Conference of the Soviets, Gendelman and Steklov had demanded stricter conditions by be imposed on the the Tsar's family, which was under house arrests, and also insisted on the arrest of all crowned princes. This is how confident they were in their power. The prominent Bolshevik L. Khamenev was among the members of the Presidium. It also included the Georgian Sakjan, one Khrushinsky, most likely a pole, and Nikolski, likely a Russian. Quite an impudent ethnic composition for the governing organ of Russia in such a critical time?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Well, the conclusion is obvious. This had nothing to do with Russia, but they had to put themselves out there. This is a Russian, they keep using the phrase, or Russian assembly, or Russian committee, which they had to have known was, you know, was, I guess to them funny. But as we get closer to the murder of the royal family, you know, there was some, much, you know, I have a book out on the topic I did for the 100th anniversary, and they didn't just kill them. You know, they sexually assaulted the girls. They did all kinds of crazy things that no one knows about. And it's extremely upsetting. And that he was handed over
Starting point is 00:21:39 to them by, at some point, by his own generals. who then found themselves in a situation where they had to deal with order number one and the right wing was unorganized the Cossacks I guess were the closest thing you could find at this point these elections were purely for leftists
Starting point is 00:22:01 you didn't have you know there was no attempt to to get rid of these people here is one time where a pogrom would have been useful, but of course, it was nowhere to be found. Apart from the CEC of the Soviet of Workers and Soldiers Deputies, there was also the All-Russian Executive Committee of the Soviet of Peasants' Deputies elected in the end of May.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Of its 30 members, there were only three actual peasants, an already habitual sham of the pre-Bulsatic revolution. Of those 30, D. Pasmanic identified seven Jews, quote, a sad thing it was, especially considering Jewish interests, and they had become an eyesore to everybody, end quote. Then this peasant organ put forward a list of its candidates for the future constituent assembly. Apart from Kerensky, the list contained several Jews, such as the boisterous Ilya Rubanovich, who had just arrived from Paris, the terrorist Abram Goetz, and the little-known Gurevich.
Starting point is 00:23:05 In the same article, there was a report on the arrest for desertion of warrant officer M. Goldman, the head of the Mogulov, Guburnaya, a peasant Soviet. I don't know off the top of my head who these actual peasants were. I don't know if he gets into it. I should know this. Of course, it had nothing to whatever they, whatever they were, whether they were real peasants, actual real peasants, or just, you know, lunatics or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know, of course they had zero power. They were there to just put fun. as a, you see, we really are a peasant, a peasant group. But this just adds more and more evidence to the fact that all of their titles, all of these long, of the old Russian committee of the Soviet of Petrograd and Moscow, these long things that they were meant to deceive, they were meant to manipulate. And he's right to say that the Petrograd Soviet was really the ruling element that was divided
Starting point is 00:24:12 it wasn't elected by anything we could imagine the constituent assembly was simply too weak and Kerensky was torn between the two everyone knew he had a brain that he was going to go at some point but
Starting point is 00:24:27 maybe he didn't know but you know he just you're talking about a very weak system really wasn't much of a government at all except for that But that's really all they were.
Starting point is 00:24:42 They had a Soviets in a few cities, Odessa and Petersburg, and that was the, that's what they controlled at the time. Of course, the actions of the executive committees could now be solely explained by their ethnic composition. Not at all. Many of those personalities irreversibly distanced themselves from their native communities and had ever had even forgotten the way to their chittels. All of them sincerely believe that because of their talent, and revolutionary spirit, they would have no problem arranging workers, soldiers, and peasants matters in the best way possible. They would manage it better simply because of them being more educated and smarter than all this clumsy
Starting point is 00:25:24 hoipolloy. I'm not going to say anything. If I start talking, I'm not, just keep going. Yet for many Russians, from commoner to a general, this sudden eye-striking transformation and the appearance among the directors and orators at rallies and meetings in command and in government was overwhelming. V. Stankovitch, the only officer socialist in the executive committee, provided an example. Quote, this fact of the abundance of Jews in the committee alone had enormous influence on the public opinion and sympathies. Noteworthy, when Kornilov met with the committee for the first time,
Starting point is 00:26:02 he had accidentally sat in the midst of the Jews in front of him, sat two insignificant and plain members, members of the committee, whom I remember merely because of their grotesquely Jewish facial features. Who knows how that affected Kornilov's attitudes towards Russian Revolution? Well, of course, pretty soon, you know, they're going to send him to jail. He will be freed, and he will be one of the leaders of the early white armies. I have a whole lecture on the ice march. It was very early down to the Cossack, the Cossack areas. And, yeah, I got to remember this, the grotesquely, too much.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, the Russian Jews in particular had that look. Like, you know, the guy with the hands, that's a very Russian look. Like the happy merchant? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cornelov was well aware of all of this. But on the other hand, he was still allied with the Entente. He still had to deal, or he thought,
Starting point is 00:27:13 I mean, he was very naive. He honestly thought throughout the West is going to come to rescue him. Look, all the sacrifices Russia made for Britain and France during the war. Oh, they're going to come rescue us. Don't worry about it. So he had to control what he said and what his men did.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And he continuously, no matter what, matter how many times he was betrayed, matter how you know how they delayed they refused to do anything for him he he still thought up until the day he was killed that um that the entom was going to come and rescue him he you know that's as far as it went and that's one of the things that was one of the things that killed him and it's one of the reasons that uh his faction at least uh lost the lost civil war you know a lot of people have to be constantly reminded that propaganda has to have true Propaganda really can't be outright lies.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It rarely works when it's just outright lies. And a lot of those propaganda posters that had Jewish faces on them, when you see pictures of, especially the Soviet, the early Soviet, they're not far off. Oh yeah There's no doubt And that's especially the case In the Eastern European Appearance It was similar in the West
Starting point is 00:28:38 But in the east it was even more pronounced Yet the treatment of all things Russian By the new regime was very telltailing Tailtelling Here is an example of the days of Kornilov In the end of August 1918 Russia was visibly dying Losing the war with its army corrupted
Starting point is 00:28:57 and the rear in collapse. General Kornilov, cunningly deceived by Karenski, artlessly appealed to the people, almost howling with pain. Quote, Russian people, our great motherland is dying, the hour of her death is nigh, all whose bosoms harbor a beating Russian heart, go to the temples and pray to God to grant us the greatest miracle of salvation for our beloved country, end quote. In response to that, the ideologist of the February Revolution and one of the leading members of the executive committee, Gimmer Sukhanov chuckled in amusement. Quote, what an awkward, silly, clueless, politically illiterate call. What a lowbrow imitation of Sousdalshina.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Sousdalshina refers to resistance and Sousdal to the Mongol invaders. I hate to say it, but that's not very, very far off. I mean, we might say that about him for different, very different reasons. But the Jews, really different. that he was a loose cannon, as naive as he was, as awkward and silly and politically illiterate, maybe so, that it's not too far away. Because throughout his life, he said, I have no ideology, which wasn't exactly true. I'm going to, Russia is going to be governed by the constituent assembly, which I will restore when we win the war. That means what was he
Starting point is 00:30:20 fighting for then? He was only fighting against the Bolshevich. Yes, it sounded pompous and awkwardly without a clear political position. Indeed, Kornilov was not a politician, but his heart ached. And what about Sukanov's heart? Did he feel any pain at all? He did not have any sense of the living land and culture, nor had he, nor he had any urge to preserve them. He served to his ideology only, the international, seeing in Kornilov's words a total lack of ideological content. Yes, his response was caustic, but note that he had not only labeled Kornilov's appeal and imitation, he had also derogatorily referred to Sousdalshina to Russian history, ancient art, and sanctity.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And with such disdain to the entire Russian historical heritage, all this international ilk, Sukhanov, and his henchmen from the malicious executive committee steered the February Revolution. Yeah, Soussahina is, you know, it's a just much longer word for Goyim. And it was not the ethnic origin of Sukhanov and the rest. It was their anti-national, anti-Russian and anti-conservative attitudes. We have seen similar attitudes on the part of the provisional government, too, with its task of governing the entire Russia and its quite Russian ethnic composition.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yet did it display a Russian worldview or represent Russian interests, if only a little? Not at all. The government's most consistent and patriotic activity was to guide the already unraveling country, the Kronstadt Republic, was not the only. place which had seceded from Russia by that time, to the victory in war, to the victory at any cost, with loyalty to the allies. Sure, the allies, their government, public and finances, put pressure on Russia. For instance, in May, Russian newspapers cited the morning post from Washington, quote, America made it clear to the Russian government that if Russia makes a separate
Starting point is 00:32:19 peace with Germany, the United States would annul all financial agreements with Russia. Prince Lavov, Prince Georgi Lavov, led the Russian provisional government during the Russian Revolution's initial phase from March of 1917 until he relinquished control to Alexander Kerensky in July 1917, upheld the sentiment. Quote, the country must determinately send its army to battle, end quote. They had no concern about consequences of the ongoing war for Russia, and this mismatch, this loss of sense of national preservation, could be observed almost. at every meeting of the Provincial Government Cabinet, almost in every discussion. So the only real big problem that the Allies had with the Bolsheviks was their treaty to pull the Russian Empire out of the war. That was their big issue.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So their intervention was there to try to convince that they didn't do any damage to the Soviet. It was right there in Petersburg. They could have destroyed it in two seconds. They didn't. while the war was still going on and we went on to the very end of 1918 you know
Starting point is 00:33:31 and sometimes you forget when you're studying this stuff that the war is still going on Russians are still being killed and they were quote losing the war because of things like the presidential government's order number one but that's the only reason that there was any bad blood
Starting point is 00:33:50 between the Allies and the Soviets was that. And once the war was over, though, that went away. There were simply ridiculous incidents. Throwing millions of rubles left and right and always keenly supporting cultural needs of ethnic minorities, that sounds like just graft and just millions of dollars being, millions of rubles being sent overseas to me. Sounds like Ukraine now. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, start that again. Throwing millions of rubles left and right and always keenly supporting cultural needs of ethnic minorities, the provisional government at its April 6th meeting had rejected the request of the long-established great Russian orchestra of Vivian Andreev to continue getting paid as before from the funds of the former His Majesty's personal chancery. The funds were confiscated by the provisional government itself. The petition was turned down despite the fact that the requested some 30,000 rubles, a year was equivalent to the annual pay of just three ministers' assistance, deny, why not to spend your so-called Great Russian Orchestra? What kind of name is that?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Taken aback and believing that it was just a misunderstanding, Andrea petitioned again. Yet with an unusual for this torpid government determination, he was refused a second time to at the April 27th meeting. Yeah, this is a very small issue, the orchestra. But he brings it up just to highlight how violently anti-Russian this was, that even the very inexpensive orchestra as specialized in Russian classics will not be financed at all. It seems to be almost out of nowhere, and a very minor thing, and yet it's just used here as an example for that reason. So when you take that and you expand it into everything Russian in the country,
Starting point is 00:35:46 you see where all this comes from. Milyakov, a Russian historian and minister of the provisional government, did not utter a single specifically Russian sentiment during that year. Similarly, the key figure of the revolution, Alexander Kerensky, could not be at any stage accused of possessing an ethnic Russian consciousness. Yet at the same time, the government demonstrated constant anxious bias against any conservative circles and especially against Russian conservatives. Even during his last speech in the Council the Russian Republic pre-parliament on October 24th, when Trotsky's troops were already seizing Petrograd building after building, Kerenzky emphatically argued with the Bolshevik
Starting point is 00:36:27 newspaper Rabashiput, Workers' Way, and the right-wing, Novaya Rus, New Russia, both of which Kerenzky had just shot down, shared similar political views. You know, when my first book came out, I got a letter from the Russian Imperial Union order in New York that was the official royalist you know the relatives of Nicholas
Starting point is 00:36:54 what was left of them um uh that was the official organizer of everything and in that letter which I still have one of the things they said is that
Starting point is 00:37:06 you know you not being a Russian at all have a very Russian heart in the sense that these people have you know they might be Russian ethnically, some of them. But that didn't mean anything. They took it for granted.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So that means strangers, like Sarah from Rose and me, Vladimir Moss, people like that, are going to help rebuild it to some extent. It was the greatest compliment that, in fact, especially from the organization itself, which was the official group, I was a big deal to me. I was a young man. I was 30, I think, when I got that. That was a big boost. The darned incognito of the members of the executive committee was, of course, noticed by the public.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Initially, it was the educated society of Petrograd that was obsessed with this question, which several times surfaced in newspapers. For two months, the committee tried to keep the secret, but by May, they had no other choice but revealed themselves and had published the actual names of most of the pseudonym holders. except for Esteklov, Nakamkis, and Boris Osopovich Bogdanov, the energetic, permanent chair of the council. They had managed to keep their identity secret for a while. The latter's names confused the public by similarity with another personality, Bogdanovich, Bogdanovich Malinowski.
Starting point is 00:38:35 This odd secrecy irritated the public, and even ordinary citizens began asking questions. It was already typical in May that if, during, a plenary meeting of the Soviet, someone proposed Zinoviev or Khamenev or something, the public shouted from the auditorium demanding their true names. Yeah, that's how deep the divide was. These were leftists, but not necessarily Bolsheviks, realizing that, you know, they changed their name so as not to, you know, it's not an entirely Russian-led party. and now you have ordinary people demanding their true names.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He is shutting down newspapers all the time, in the name of the free press, of course. But that's exactly it. They were doxed, and I think this was the one and only time that occurred, officially. Concealing true names was incomprehensible to the ordinary man of that time. Only thieves hide and change your names. Why is Boris Katz ashamed of his name, and instead calling himself Kampkov. Why does Lurie hide under the alias Larin?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Why does Mandelstam use the pseudonym Laiadov? Many of these had aliases that originated out of a necessity in the past underground life, but what had compelled the likes of Shotman, the socialist revolutionary from Tomsk, and not him alone, to become Danilov in 1917. Certainly the goal of a revolutionary hiding behind a pseudonym is to outsmart someone, and that may include not only the police and government. In this way, ordinary people as well are unable to figure out who their new leaders are. Well, we know why.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And this is, you know, remember, they were very image conscious, not just amongst, you know, in front of Russians, but especially in front of the West who was financing them. You know, you had a much healthier society both in the West and in the East. and if this was just a Jewish ethnic cult you know Western financing might might be endangered especially the good press that they were getting so they changed their names to make it appear like this was a Russian revolution and Russians are behind
Starting point is 00:40:53 we all know that but it took a while for the fact that they were doxed by the provisional government you know shows you just you know letting realize they had to go they had to go anyway but this was just one more step that's going to force Kerenzky and his friends out. Intoxicated by the freedom of the first months of the February Revolution, many Jewish activists and orators failed to notice that their constant fussing around prosidiums and rallies produced certain bewilderment and wry glances.
Starting point is 00:41:25 By the time of the February Revolution, there was no popular anti-Semitism in the internal regions of Russia. It was confined exclusively to the areas of the Paloist settlement. for instance Abraham Kogan had even stated in 1917 quote we loved Russia despite all the opposition from the previous regime because we knew that it was not the Russian people behind it but czarism but after just a few months following the February revolution resentment against Jews that suddenly flared up among the masses of people and spread over Russia growing stronger with each passing month and even the official newspapers reported for instance on the exasperation in the waiting in the waiting lines in the cities. Everything had been changed in that twinkle of the eye that created a chasm between the old and the new Russia, but its cues that had changed the most. Strangely, while everyone has moved to the left, the food lines have moved to the right. If you would like
Starting point is 00:42:22 to hear Black 100 propaganda, then go and spend some time in a waiting line. Among other things, you will find out that there are virtually no Jews in the lines. They don't. They don't don't need it as they have enough bread hoarded. The same gossip about Jews who tuck away bread rolls from another end of the line as well. The waiting lines is the most dangerous source of counter-revolution. The author, I like that. Yeah, that's a good one. The author Ivan Naushevin noted that in the autumn of Moscow, anti-Semitic propaganda fell on ready ears in the hungry revolutionary cues. Quote, what rascals? They worm themselves onto the very top. See how proudly they ride in their cars?
Starting point is 00:43:07 Sure, not a single Yid can be found in the lines here. Just you wait. And all of this, because the provisional government or elements within it, published their real names. We know why they did it. Now people are starting to realize why they did. This was a Jewish movement. Now, tomorrow on Radio Albion, my lecture on the early
Starting point is 00:43:35 Leninist legislation, well, his decrees against anti-Semitism is my, is a subject. And I go through all of these in detail and explain where it where it comes from, and this is part of it. They realize that any exposure as to who we really are means more and more of these people. I mean, they were burning down churches. They were, you know, they were doing very well, of course. They always did very well. And you notice that, you know, words like proletariat or bourgeoisie had absolutely no meaning. Nor were they were supposed to have any.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Jews were almost inherently proletarians, no matter how many billions they may have had. And that's typical of the day. And all of this comes from the doxing. All it took was one article, one speech, one piece, one piece that exposed. their their real names. I don't know if you know this, but when I did the Barnes Review, where I was the editor for a while under Willis Cardo, Willis never allowed pseudonyms, ever. And I've never used a false name ever in my life.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So, but of course, that was for a very different reason than what we have here. Of course, there was always, you know, the Jews were always distrusted. Everyone knows, you know, the Jews were thrown out of Moscow, maybe four or five times, up into this point. Kiev many times up into this point going back, you know, centuries. But I think by popular anti-Semitism, he's referring to like actual pogrom action, which is not the way to define that, but I think that's what he's referring to. Jews were never trusted wherever you went. You know, I come from a fairly heavily Jewish area
Starting point is 00:45:33 And I went to a college where that was a very Jewish not entirely my university of Hartford Was was heavily Jewish by comparison with other places And, you know, I can't I know them well You know, of course, that's not a personal matter But yet there was you know, popular anti-exemptive I think that's all he means is, you know, violence, you know, peasants just, you know, pitchforking somebody. But the waiting in lines is the best form of counter-revolution.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Well, there were no lines under the Tsar. There were no lies up in, lines even in Kiev and Rus. That didn't exist. The only time the economy collapsed was when the Tsar went away. Any revolution releases a flood of obscenity. envy and anger from the people. The same happened among the Russian people with their weakened Christian spirituality. And so the Jews, many of whom had ascended to the top, to visibility and what is more, who had not concealed their revolutionary jubilation, nor waited in the miserable lines,
Starting point is 00:46:42 increasingly became a target of popular resentment. Many instances of such resentment were documented in 1917 newspapers, below are several examples. When, at the Apraxan market on Senate, Naya Square, a horde of goods was discovered in possession of Jewish merchants. People began shout, plunder Jewish shops because yids are responsible for all the troubles. And this word yid is on everyone's lips. A stockpile of flour and bacon was found in the store of a merchant, likely a Jew in Paltova. Paltava. Bacon? The crowd started plundering his shop and then began calling for a Jewish pogrom. Later, several members of the Soviet of workers' deputies, including Drobness, arrived and attempted to appease the crowd. As a result, Drobness was beaten.
Starting point is 00:47:32 In October and at Katerinislav, soldiers trashed small shops shouting smash to bourgeois, smashed to Yids. In Kiev at the Vladimir Ski market, a boy had hit a woman who tried to buy flour out of her turn on the head instantly. The crowd started yelling the Yids or beaten the Russians and a brawl ensued. Note that it had happened in the same Kiev where one could already see the steamers, long-lived free Ukraine without Yids and Poles. By that time, smashed the Yids could be heard in almost every street brawl, even in Petrograd, and often completely without foundation. For instance, in a Petrograd streetcar, two women called for disbanding of the Soviet of workers and soldiers deputies filled according to them exclusively by Germans and Yids. Both were
Starting point is 00:48:20 arrested and called to account. Now, that's why, um, And I mentioned my lecture coming up on Lennon's decrees, you know, fighting anti-Semitism. This is exactly why. Lennon knew that he was essentially a spokesman for a Jewish movement. And this stuff was already, I mean, people kind of knew. I don't think Americans, if they knew how many Jews were, they would do anything. But something like the slaughter in Gaza and In Yahoo, that might be a different story. It would take more for your typical.
Starting point is 00:48:55 American, but not back here. There was never any love, never any love for them. And everything that they said, you know, how do you remove Jewish merchants from the bourgeoisie? That's exactly what a bourgeois is. They were the ultimate expression of that.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And yet in the twisted minds of the Leninists, the Marxists, I shouldn't even say the Marxist, because in Judean Frogger, Marx says the same thing. How can you possible? exempt the Jewish billionaires from your contempt of capitalism. And you had people who didn't like, essentially down with the rich, but it also means down
Starting point is 00:49:39 with Jews. That's why all of these laws had to be passed. People had to be sent to prison. People had to be murdered because it didn't take much for something like this to happen. Newspaper Ruskaya Volia, Russian Freedom, reported, right in front of our eyes, semitism in its most primitive form re arises and spreads. It is enough to hear to conversations in streetcars in Petrograd or in waiting lines to various shops or in the countless fleeting rallies at every corner and crossroad. They accuse Jews of political stranglehold of seizing parties
Starting point is 00:50:13 and Soviets and even of ruining the army, of looting and hoarding goods. Many Jewish socialists agitators in the front units enjoyed unlimited success during the spring months when calls for a democratic peace were tolerated and fighting was not required. Then nobody blamed them for being Jewish. But in June, when the policy of the executive committee had changed towards support and even propaganda for the offensive, calls of smashed to Yids began appearing and those Jewish persuaders suffered battering by unruly soldiers time and time again. Yeah, he's referring to the end of, coming to the end of World War I.
Starting point is 00:50:51 No one would blame them for being Jewish. That wasn't the issue whatsoever. But, you know, one of the funniest, it's maddening on one hand and hilarious on the other when Jewish authors try to explain why anti-Semitism exists, especially in this era. You know, they can't, they know why anti-Semitism existed in Russia in 1925. There was a lot of good reasons for it. It wasn't accusations. It was simply the reality that they had.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So they can't say that. So they have to come up with crazy, you know, primitive tribalism, backwards peasants. Whatever it took, that was actually the Soviet official Soviet line on Pravda was. Anti-Semitism is growing in mid-1920s Soviet Union because so many peasants were being brought into the cities to work. and because they're backwards by definition that's where you're getting your that's where this comes from that was their
Starting point is 00:51:57 official explanation nothing what they did not the fact that they ran this revolution nothing because everyone's standing in lines the economy collapsed not because the church was violently persecuted none of that that was it
Starting point is 00:52:13 is because ignorant peasants were coming into the cities and going into the factories that was their best explanation but, of course, it's the explanation that you better say or else. And I'm going to do these next two paragraphs, and we'll end it there. Okay. Rumors were spreading that the executive committee in Petrograd was seized by Yids. By June, this belief had taken root in the Petrograd garrison and factories.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That is exactly what soldiers shouted to the member of the committee Voitinsky, who had visited an infantry regiment to dissuade the troops from the looming demonstration conceived by Bolsheviks on June 10th. V.D. Nabokov, hardly known for anti-Semitism, joke that the meeting of the foreman of the pre-parliamentary in October 1917 could be safely called a Sanhedron. Its majority was Jewish. Of Russians, there were only Accentiev, Me, Peshikonov, and Tchaikovsky.
Starting point is 00:53:15 His attention was drawn to the fact that Mark Vishniak, was who was present there also. Yeah, he's referring to himself, Nabokov. That's what he's not talking about, Jolzhen, obviously. But stuff like this was said all the time. This is part of the reason the Bolsheviks were so worried about their image.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You know, same thing, the Hungarian party. The Hungarian people's republic was so, I mean, it was absurdly Jewish, all the way down to your, you know, traffic cops. that were replaced and Stalin said
Starting point is 00:53:54 you've got to do something about this we can't have because the West was still now they wouldn't worry about it but the West is going to see this is just a Jewish cult this has nothing to do with labor or workers or farmers or anyone else
Starting point is 00:54:06 no one they don't care about this they can't have that and there were enough people in the West talking like that at the time after World War II that's going to cease but that's why this, you know, that's why this legislation had to be passed and why people had to be murdered.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Well, the next episode should probably finish up this chapter and then we will be moving on to, let's see what the next chapter after this is called alongside the Bolsheviks. Oh boy. Yeah. So I think what a lot of people are waiting for, I hope. I hope they're getting a lot out of this chapter because this chapter is rich with information that you're not, you're just not going to find anywhere else. Yeah, it's an obscure time, the time between February and October, what was happening? You know, the Jewish numbers in the reds weren't all that high.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I mean, they were dominated by them, but by the time in a few months, because of this, this immigration from abroad, it was overwhelming. you know, so all, a lot of stuff was, was happening. And Lenin and the party was, was checking public opinion with stuff just what we talked about. How far can we push before we get pushed back? And what are we going to do about it? And as Lenin said, well, we're going to kill them. Propaganda is not going to work on everybody. So the liquidation of the peasantry had been conceived precisely in this era and was put into practice when the Bolshek.
Starting point is 00:55:46 took over. All righty. Until the next time, I will encourage everyone to go to the show notes and to the descriptions on the videos and donate to Dr. Johnson. Keep him, let's keep him unemployed and keep him studying and keep him working and cranking out all this information that I think that from all the feedback I'm getting is, you know, this is going to be one of those series that people are going to listen to for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I agree. I agree. Thank you. Thank you. Talk to you in a couple days. Thank you, Dr. Jay. All right. Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to part 62 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. Dr. Johnson, how are you today? I just discovered that the song Lawyers Guns and Money from Warren Zivon
Starting point is 00:56:39 is about the mercenaries fighting in the Congo in 1964. I'm embarrassed. I didn't know that. It's not really obvious in the lyrics, but there's a couple of videos out there showing these guys. A lot of them, former German infantry, a very neglected topic, you know, it's like with Rhodesia and everything else. And I discovered it yesterday. So it's an embarrassing thing, but like, you know, the communist meetings of Pol Pot, I'm condemning myself. you know, within the circle. And I apologize for not knowing that.
Starting point is 00:57:22 It's terribly embarrassing. I didn't know that. But it's really weird that he would write a song about that, of all things, in the 70s. It's actually a very good song. But yesterday, I discovered what it was really about. And it's just, I feel terrible. I learn something new all the time. You know, when you see that when you find out that is,
Starting point is 00:57:46 Israel was arming the, uh, the white population in Rhodesia and that the Soviet Union was arming the black, uh, population in Rhodesia. You realize, um, well, yeah, the Soviet Union wasn't, um, wasn't always very pro-Jewish. As a matter of fact, they went, um, pro-Israel, at least, they, they went out of their way to, uh, sometimes to fight against them just. proxy-wise is for just seems like just to do it. Well, things get complicated in Africa. I never got too deep into a lot of that stuff
Starting point is 00:58:28 because every country is really not really a country in sub-Saharan Africa. They're always subdivided into a million different ethnic groups, different religions that normally would be slaughtering each other, enslaving each other. which is, you know, part of the reason that they're always struggling, but things get very complicated. And South Africa is no different. Everything that we predicted, me and you, I was actually interested in that issue in college, 1990, 91, everything we predicted that would happen in South Africa actually happened even worse than we thought it would.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. All right. Let's go to another horrifying time picking up where we left off. Yep. Last time. By autumn, the activity of Jews in power had created such an effect that even Erskine sparks, the illustrated supplement to the surpassingly gentle Rusco Slovo, Russian word, that would until then never dare defying public opinion in such a way, had published an abrasive anti-Jewish caricature in the October 29th issue, that is, already during fights of the October coup in Moscow. the executive committee of the Soviet of workers and soldiers deputies actively fought against anti-semitism. I cannot rule out that the... Really?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Shocked. I cannot rule out that the harsh refusal to accept the well-deserved pleckinoff into the CEC in April 1917 was a kind of revenge for his anti-Bund referral to the tribe of Gad, which was mentioned in Lenin's publications. Indeed, I cannot provide... any other explanation. On July 21st, the first all Russian Congress of Soviets had issued a proclamation about a struggle against anti-Semitism, about the only resolution approved by the Congress unanimously
Starting point is 01:00:29 without any objections or arguments. When in the end of June 28th and 29th, the re-elected Bureau of the CEC had assembled, they had heard a report on the rise of anti-Semitic agitation, mainly in the Northwestern and southwestern Gubernayas. A decision was made immediately to send the delegation of 15 members to the CEC with special powers there, subordinating them to the direction of the Department on the Struggle Against Counter Revolution. Well, that says it all. Sometimes I don't think that they, at the time, they realized the full implication of what they were saying.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That was also Lenin's argument. over and over again at the time Lennon wrote that to be anti-Semitic is to be anti-Soviet. To be anti-Soviet is to be anti-Semitic. And being an anti-Semite, however they defined it, you know, we've spoken about that before, Lenin's definition of the term. And of course, you know, it's on the rise in those places
Starting point is 01:01:41 the former Palo Settlement in St. Petersburg because that's where their power was growing. It's a full and open admission that this was a Jewish movement. And I did a whole show, as you know, on the laws and the decrees that Lennon put out. You know, actually small articles that eventually took the force of law saying what I've, you know, to be. anti-Semitic is to fight the revolution which is a very odd thing to say
Starting point is 01:02:17 if it wasn't an almost entirely Jewish a revolution now it's somewhat of a myth that they got shot initially the prison terms were a little you know they were they weren't very long
Starting point is 01:02:33 during wartime they were shot but at this point where you're dealing with a lot of chaos they really weren't any trial what's going on. So it was simply assumed that if you criticize the Jews, politically speaking, there's no way you could be supportive of Lenin, the revolution, Trotsky, and the Soviets. So at this point, it wasn't in law yet, but it will be very soon once Lenin takes over in October.
Starting point is 01:03:09 on the other hand bolsheviks who advanced their agenda under the slogan down with the minister's capitalists not only did nothing to alleviate this problem they even fanned its flames along with the anarchists despite the fact that the latter were headed by one blakeman they claim that the executive committee was so exceptionally lenient toward the government only because capitalists and jews control everything Isn't that reminiscent of Naranaya Voya, the People's Will Terrorist Organization of 1881? And when the Bolshevik uprising of July 3rd through 4th broke out, it was in fact targeted, not against the already impotent provisional government, but against the Bolsheviks' true competitor, executive committee, the Bolsheviks sly exploited the anger of soldiers towards Jews by pointing them to that very body. see there they are yeah it's it's they don't really have principles they'll use it of course they were vehemently opposed to any anti-jewish thinking whatsoever but if they can use it at the moment to um hurt their enemies they will you know um you have you have Ukrainians claiming to be
Starting point is 01:04:27 national socialist fighting for Zelensky I mean there's no principles with these people And we still have the problem, and we've talked about it months ago, actually, that the Bolsheviks have to try to dance around the issue that some of the most powerful capitalists and concentrations of capital were under Jewish control. So how can you be anti-capitalist and not point out the Jews? They clearly were a disproportionate chair of the millionaires of the old society. And this is part of the reason why the laws had to be passed. and keep in mind that the Bolsheviks on the one hand the executive committee or the Soviet
Starting point is 01:05:09 and Petersburg on the other they didn't disagree on much there was a lot of personality problems and they would someone if one of the other powers did something didn't like they would say that this was against socialism they were very very similar and it's funny that they mentioned
Starting point is 01:05:30 the anarchists because as we know Mikhail Bakunin was, we talked about this too, one of the many early leftists who said that Karl Marx was on the Jewish payroll, on the Rothschild payroll, and that Jews have created so much misery in society. In fact, if you're for listeners who don't know what we're talking about, you go back to that, I don't even remember when it was now, a couple of weeks ago, all the founders, whether be anarchism, socialism, Marxism, all had a problem with the Jews. They talk just like we do.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Prudhon, it blows me away. The founder of energy actually created the name anarchism. But because the Jews were very powerful, anarchists were going to have a problem with them. So, and yeah, it's also a Jewish movement. Bleakman, I don't know who that is. She's not one of the major names. But it was the anarchist who initially pointed out Marx's background. That's why he was thrown out of the first international.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And anarchism became a very eccentric competitor to Marxism. But of course, as the years went on, it became just another Jewish expression and absurd, but Jewish expression. But when the Bolsheviks had lost their uprising, the CEC had conducted an official investigation and many members of the Commission of Inquiry were Jews from the presidium of the CEC. And because of their socialist conscience, they dared not call the Bolshevik uprising a crime and deal with it accordingly. So the commission had yielded no result and was soon liquidated. During the garrison meeting arranged by the CEC on October 19th just before the decisive Bolshevik uprising, one of representatives of 176th Infantry Regiment, a Jew, warned that those people on the street,
Starting point is 01:07:29 screamed the Jews are responsible for all the wrongs. At the CEC meeting during the night of October 25th, Gendelman reported that when he was giving a speech in the Peter and Paul Fortress earlier that afternoon, he was taunted, you are Gendelman. That is, you are a Yid and a rightist. When on October 27th, Gautz and his delegation to Kerenz tried to depart to Gatchina from the Baltisky Rail Terminal, he was nearly killed by Salis. who screamed that the Soviets are controlled by Yids.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And during the wine pogroms on the eve of the glorious Bolshevik revolution, the calls slaughter Yids were heard also. Well, from either one of the two sides mentioned, either the Soviets on the one side or the or the Leninist on the other, that's the pot calling the kettle black. They were both heavily Jewish. And when they say rightist, just be careful. They're talking about right wing relative to socialists.
Starting point is 01:08:29 not right wing like we use the we use the term um so um but if they could use it against their opponents they will they knew that no one really liked them they knew that they dominated this movement it was for their own interests but occasionally when it suited their interest they would they would they would use it um that didn't happen very much and certainly didn't happen after uh october but this was one of the ways that uh really a stalemate in the July days of 1917. And yet there was not a single Jewish program over the whole year of 1917.
Starting point is 01:09:11 The infamous outrageous pogroms in Kalusha and Turnipole were in fact the work of frenzy, drunk revolutionary soldiers retreating in disorder. They smashed everything on their way, all shops and stores, and because most of those were Jewish-owned, the words spread about Jewish pogroms.
Starting point is 01:09:28 A similar program took place, place in Stanislavov with its much smaller Jewish population and quite reasonably it was not labeled a Jewish pogrom. Yeah, these silly thing. I mean, the Jews tried to call these programs. They need them. They need them for the sake of their own cohesion. But all it was, was a couple of drunken, I think it was sailors. I could be wrong. The smashing stores in general. They weren't targeting Jews, but because some of them were Jewish owned, it got the label of the program. They were looking for programs everywhere. It was very important to them. They couldn't have it be too large, but they needed it. Jews need a certain level of anti-Jewish
Starting point is 01:10:15 thinking at any given time. It's the only thing that keeps them together. That goes back to the Kahal, where, you know, poor Jews were said, if you leave the Kahal, the Gentiles are animals. He'll kill you. They hate us for no reason. They kept them in line. So there has to be a certain level of even semi-violent anti-Semitism out there to keep the Jews unified. And sometimes even that doesn't work. But still, as we all know, this was a Jewish movement. But these so-called programs have nothing to do with politics.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It has a lot to do with alcohol. Already by the midsummer of 1917, the Jews felt threatened by the embittered population or drunken soldiers, but the ongoing collapse of the state was fraught with incomparably greater dangers. Amazingly, it seems that both the Jewish community in the press, the latter to a large extent, identified with the former, learned nothing from the formidable experiences in 1917 in general, but narrowly looked at the isolated manifestations of pogroms. And so, time after time, they missed a real.
Starting point is 01:11:23 danger. The executive power behaved similarly. When the Germans breached a front in Turnipal in the night of July 10th, the desperate joint meeting of the CEC of the Soviet of workers and soldiers deputies and the executive committee of the Soviet of peasants deputies had taken place. They had acknowledged that should the revolution perish, the country crumbles down in that exact order, and then named provisional government a government for salvation of the revolution and noted in their appeal to the people that dark forces are again prepared to torment our long-suffering motherland. They are setting backward masses upon the Jews. Yeah, they're motherland.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Yeah, but one significant thing, the collapse of the state, especially suddenly, is a problem for them. It wasn't a problem in 1991, but the society was much less healthy. people knew, and we're talking about the revolutionaries being Jewish. If the state goes away, you know, Bolsheviks could count on really a handful of Russians as supporters, you know, throughout most of their existence, less than 1%. Partially because of its ethnic background, they knew that they didn't have popular support. They knew that people hated them, and they knew why. They lived with cognitive dissonance all the time, but I guess that's pretty normal for them. They need a strong state, though, because eventually they start believing their own propaganda about pogroms.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Without a strong state, we are vulnerable, even with self-defense organizations. On July 18th at a panel session of the state Duma, in an extremely small circle, Representative Maslanikoff spoke against. the executive committee and among other things spelled out the real names of its members. On the very same, they hate that so much. Yes, they do. On the very same evening at the factional meeting of the CEC, they beat an alarm. This is a case of counter-revolution. It must be dealt with accordingly to the recently issued decree of the Minister of Interior
Starting point is 01:13:45 Affairs, Sarateli, on suppression of counter-revolution. The decree was issued in response to the Bolshevik uprising, though it was never used against Bolsheviks. In two days, Maslanikov made excuses in an article in the newspaper Wretch speech. Indeed, he named Stecklov, Kaminov, and Trotsky, but never intended to incite anger against the entire Jewish population in any way attacking them. I had absolutely no wish to make Jewish people responsible for the actions of these individuals. So this is clear proof. They changed the their names because they needed to disguise the ethnic nature of the Bolshevik Party as well as the
Starting point is 01:14:25 of the Soviets, the Soviets in Petersburg. But we've talked about this before. I forget what newspaper it was. We talked about it a few weeks ago that published the real names of these people, which is sort of a doxing, but in this case it's an ethnic doxing. I think at this point people kind of new, but in 1917, victory is going to be given to those who had the most money and those who had the most cohesion, the most focus. That was going to win, not numbers. Then in mid-September, when all the gains of the February Revolution were already irreversibly ruined, on the eve of the by now imminent Bolshevik coup, Y.A. Kantorovich warned and
Starting point is 01:15:16 wretch about the danger that the dark forces and evil geniuses of Russia will soon emerge from their dens to jubilantly perform black masses. Indeed, it will happen soon. Yet what kind of black masses of beastial patriotism and pogrom-loving truly Russian national identity? In October in Petrograd, I Trumpledor had organized Jewish self-defense forces for protection against pogroms, but they were never needed. Indeed, Russian minds were confused, and so were Jewish ones. Remember, the Rick was the, the wreck. I can't do the guttural like you have in the Semitic languages.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I can't do that without sounding ridiculous. So we just say wretch, which is funny. That was a liberal. That was the cadet publication. It was going to be shut down pretty damn. soon. So you had even there, you had some worry that this is
Starting point is 01:16:20 a Jewish movement. Using the phrase, black masses, I don't think he meant bestial patriotism. I think this was someone of an admission. You wouldn't use that phrase to refer to truly Russian national identities to the nationalist, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:40 engaging in programs. It doesn't make any sense. There's no connection there. I think they were, he was admitting something. And this was a way to admit it without admitting it. And I love the Jewish self-defense forces. Well, they've, A, already existed, and B, the Bullsviks are very well armed. The Red Army didn't come out of nothing.
Starting point is 01:17:05 So, you know, that was just more, you know, self-congratulation than anything else. Yes, Russian minds were confused, but there's good reason for that. This is an extremely confusing and complex time in Russian history. Several years after the revolution, G. Landau, looking back with sadness, wrote, Jewish participation in the Russian turmoil had astonishingly suicidal overtones in it. I am referring not only to their role in Bolshevism, but to their involvement in the whole thing. And it is not just about the huge number of politically active people, socialists and revolutionaries, who have joined the revolution.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I am talking mainly about the broad sympathy of the masses it will. was met with. Although many harbored pessimistic expectations, in particular, in anticipation of pogroms, they were still able to reconcile such a foreboding with an acceptance of turmoil which unleashed countless miseries and pogroms. It resembled the fatal attraction of butterflies to fire, to the annihilating fire. It is certain there were some strong motives pushing the Jews into that direction, and yet those were clearly suicidal. Granted, Jews were not different in that from the rest of Russian intelligentsia and from the Russian society, yet we had to be different. We, the ancient people of city dwellers, merchants, artisans, intellectuals. We had to be
Starting point is 01:18:24 different from the people of land and power from peasants, landowners, officials. Yeah, it's an interesting statement here. Landau, obviously, a Jewish name. You didn't really have broad sympathy. And I don't know, masses are such a dehuman. I hate that word. There's a use for it, but not in this context. They were, however, sick of the war. That's for sure. And they wanted some level of stability.
Starting point is 01:18:59 It isn't like the Bolsheviks were going on the rostrum and saying that we're going to burn down churches and take everything, we're going to steal everything from the farms. They weren't saying this. They were saying the opposite. They were, you know, they never told the truth about. their agenda in public. This is part of the reason, not the whole reason, this is part of the reason why the West liked them so much. They saw a strong state, but a westernized strong state in the Bolsheviks.
Starting point is 01:19:28 There maybe have been five people in the West at this point who knew what a Bolshevik really was. It was the ethnic connection that mattered a lot more. So I think he's exaggerating a little bit there. but this comment would only be true if the society was healthy and it was I mean especially compared to ours
Starting point is 01:19:50 especially compared to what you know in the 60s and 70s it still was a fairly healthy society it was suicidal because people were starting to know they knew Sultan Easton talks about this at great length in
Starting point is 01:20:03 the archipelago and not just there in essays all over the place that people begin pretty quickly to realize that the institutions that tormented them, they all seem to have something in common. Their names
Starting point is 01:20:18 weren't Russian names. And at this point, many of their pseudonyms had been exposed. There seemed to be sometimes a Russian name or a Georgia name put in charge. That's not who ran the group. And I think that's what he
Starting point is 01:20:34 means by suicidal. Today, or I don't have to say today, in 1991, the Jews took over entirely yet again, created a very different kind of pure oligarchy, and there really wasn't much of an organized revolution against them, except from the old Soviet, the elderly Soviets, you know, the so-called coup of 1991, who at that point were very anti-Jewish, which is a whole separate, very complex issue. But I think that's what he means, that That we have to do this really fast.
Starting point is 01:21:12 We have to nip this in the bud now or else we're going to be in very serious trouble. And let's not forget those who were different. We must always remember the jury was, is very heterogeneous, that attitudes and actions very greatly among the Jews. So it was with the Russian jury in 1917. In provinces and even in the capital, there were circles with reasonable views and they were growing as October was getting closer. The Jewish stance toward Russian unity during the months when Russia was pulled apart not only by other nations, but even by Siberians, was remarkable.
Starting point is 01:21:52 All over the course of revolution, Jews, together with Great Russians, were among the most ardent champions of the idea of Great Russia. Now, when Jews had gotten their equal rights, what could they have in common with different people on the periphery of the former empire? And yet, the disintegration of a United Country would fracture Jewry. In July, the 9th Congress of Constituent Constitutional Democrats, Vinaver and Nolde, openly argued against territorial partition of peoples and in favor of Russian unity. Also in September, in the National Section of the Democratic Congress, the Jewish Socialists spoke against any federalization of Russia
Starting point is 01:22:31 and that they had just had joined the Centralists. Today they write in an Israeli magazine that Trumpledore's Jewish detachments backed the provisional government and had even foiled the Kornilov's mutiny. Perhaps. However, in rigorously studying events in 1917, I did not encounter any such information. But I am aware of opposite instances. In early May, 1917, in the thundering patriotic and essentially counter-revolutionary Black Sea delegation, the most successful orator calling for the defense of Russia was Jewish sailor Botkin. You know, this reminds me of when the Iraq war began in 1990.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And I see that war as one from 1990 really to, you know, 2011 or to the, you know, the killing of Hussein. I think it was just one, one war. All of a sudden, you see these people who were, I. Obviously, I saw it in an airport one time, someone who was very obviously Jewish wearing the American flag on his lapel. All of a sudden, these were the same people that were torching ROTC centers and universities during Vietnam now because their interests are being supported by American military action. Suddenly they're patriots. And I remember how angry it made me at the time.
Starting point is 01:24:02 This wasn't Royal Russia. This wasn't Orthodox Russia. Now, keep in mind that the federalization idea that will be promoted by the Bolsheviks during the Civil War, that was a way to get the support of the various nations that comprised the Federation. The Great Russia idea, and you could interpret that however you want, that was promoted by the white armies. It was a big problem. It caused a lot of problems in Ukraine, especially. So, again, this was just, they changed their opinion depending on their self-interest.
Starting point is 01:24:41 But Lenin would use, you know, as today, Ukrainian nationalism and pretended to support it as a way to defeat the white army. And, of course, the minute he was secure in power, of course, that all ended. So it was phony. But that's really what he was talking about here. but there was a huge debate over this. But they both believed in tight centralization. They just had very different ways of expressing it. De Pesmanich had published the letters of millionaire steamship owner Shulam Bespelov
Starting point is 01:25:18 to the Minister of Trade and Industry, Chikovsky, dated as early as September 1915. Excessive profits made by all industrialists and traders lead out, lead our motherland to the imminent wreck. He had donated half a million rubles to the state and proposed to establish a law limiting all profits by 15%. Unfortunately, these self-restricting measures were not introduced as rush-to-freedom progressives, such as Konovalov and Ryabushinsky, did not mind making 100% war profits. When Konovalov himself became the Minister of Trade and Industry, Shulam Bespelov wrote to him on July 5th. 1917, excessive profits of industrialists are ruining our country. Now we must take 50% of the
Starting point is 01:26:08 value of their capitals and property, and added that he is ready to part with 50% of his own assets. Konovov paid no heed. Yes, they were quite noble. In August, at the Moscow All-Russian State Conference, O'O. Grusenberg, a future member of the Constituent Assembly, stated, these days the Jewish people are united in their allegiance to our motherland, in unanimous aspiration to defend her integrity and achievements of democracy, and were prepared to give for her defense all their material and intellectual assets to part with everything precious, with the flower of their people, all their young. I still think of that guy, this very obviously Jewish guy, with the American lapel pin.
Starting point is 01:26:57 whenever I read something like this, it's the exact same phenomenon. The Tsar is gone. Their church has been dethroned. It's a revolutionary government. Everything is changing. And Jews are making incredible profits. I mean, even limiting them doesn't, they're still going to be, you know, today would be billionaires. Yeah, all of a sudden, it's their motherland.
Starting point is 01:27:25 You didn't have an Israel that existed at the time. time. So it was the most phony kind of patriotism that was based exclusively on self-interest. United in their allegiance to our motherland. This is, you know, that has nothing to do with Russia. That's for sure. These words reflected the realization that the February regime was the best for Russian Jewelry, promising economic progress as well as political and cultural prosperity. And that realization was adequate. The closer got to the October coup and the more apparent the Bolshevik threat, the wider this
Starting point is 01:28:07 realization spread among Jews, leading them to oppose Bolshevism. It was taking root even among socialist parties, and during the October coup, many Jewish socialists were actively against it. Yet they were debilitated by their socialist views, and their opposition was limited by negotiations and newspaper articles until the Bolsheviks shut down those newspapers. Oh, that's true. The revolutionaries had many factions. Lenin saw this as a handicap. The whites never saw it that way, or they didn't understand it. Eventually, they will shut it down. There'll be one movement, one party, one army, one everything. But you had leftist Jews,
Starting point is 01:28:53 various types of socials, anarchists all over the place that had problems with Bolsheviks, et cetera. Some of these people were eliminated when the revolution actually occurred. Some of them just joined. You know, it was over. Some immigrated elsewhere. They were all still leftists.
Starting point is 01:29:14 You know, it wasn't like a patriotic opposition here. Bolivism was a tiny, really, you know, at the time, a bizarre cult around Lenin and Trotsky, very Jewish, completely foreign controlled, a foreign financed, and when you knew their real views, they were very extreme. London was no different than Stalin. In policy, in his ideology, they believed the exact same things.
Starting point is 01:29:41 The only difference was that Stalin had a much greater, much stronger economy and far more, you know, far better technology to work with. you know, Lenin was still this confusing, almost anarchy. And he died, you know, just a few years later. So, yeah, Jews were all over the place on the left. It's still against the case now. But Lenin, you know, essentially, you know, the ultimatum was,
Starting point is 01:30:07 we've taken over, you have a choice of what you're going to do. You know, that doesn't remove the fact that the Bolshevik movement was Jewish. But, again, so we're liberals. so were the some of the anarchists, et cetera. It is necessary to, sorry, it is necessary to state explicitly that the October coup was not carried, was not carried by Jews, though it was under the general command of Trotsky and with energetic actions of young Grigory Chednovsky during the arrest of provisional government and the massacre of the defenders of the Winter Palace.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Broadly speaking, the common rebuke that the 170 million people could not be pushed into Bolshevism by a small Jewish minority is justified. Indeed, we had ourselves sealed our fate in 1917 through our foolishness from February to October through December. The October coup proved a devastating lot for Russia, yet the state of affairs even before it promised little good to the people. We had already lost responsible statesmanship, and the events at 1917 had proved it in excess. in excess, the best Russia could expect for an inept, feeble, and disorderly pseudo-democracy
Starting point is 01:31:24 unable to rely on enough citizens with developed legal consciousness and economic independence. Yeah, the Bolsheviks weren't known as being very good statesmen, although I think it was, it wasn't Wilson, it was the Prime Minister of Britain who said, it was Lloyd George who said that Trotsky was the only statesman in Russia. the Bolshevik behavior in the Winter Palace and what they did, you know, spreading feces on things and just this animalistic hatred, that was, you know, part of the nature of the party. This was about power. You know, Lenin was a very poor philosopher. He was there to justify all of this.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And keep in mind, as I keep saying, Lenin was a minority. He was a essentially, I mean, he was partly Jewish. but he wasn't a full Jew like a lot of these other people when the Soviets actually were established Soviet Union took over and many of the people purged right away many of them were Jews you know that's true they all hated Russia they all hated the monarchy and the most frustrating thing very frustrating is that there was no organized armed right-wing power here
Starting point is 01:32:42 nowhere it had massive support throughout the country, peasantry, Siberia. It didn't exist. No one fought back. And the army, of course, it was in such a bad state. They had been propagandized beyond belief by Lenin.
Starting point is 01:32:59 There was no, you know, the white army was certain fragments of the white army was the best that they can do. And it wasn't enough to defeat the Reds. After October fights in Moscow, representatives of the Bund and Puele Zion, had taken part in the peace negotiations, not an alliance with the junkers of the Bolsheviks, but as a third independent party. There were many Jews among junkers of the Engineers School who defended the Winter Palace on October 25th.
Starting point is 01:33:28 In the memoirs of Sunigob, a palace defender, Jewish names appear regularly. I personally knew one such engineer from my prison experience. And during the Odessa City Duma elections, the Jewish bloc had opposed the Bolsheviks and won, though only marginally. I love how he calls it his prison experience. During the constituent assembly elections, more than 80% of Jewish population in Russia had voted for Zionist parties. Lenin wrote that 550,000 voted for Jewish nationalists. Most Jewish parties had formed a united nationalist of candidates.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Seven deputies were elected from the list, six Zionists and Gruzenberg. The success of Zionists was facilitated by the recently published Declaration of British Minister of Foreign Affairs Balfour on the establishment of Jewish National Home in Palestine, which was met with enthusiasm by the majority of Russian Jewry. Celebratory demonstrations, rallies, and worship services took place in Moscow, Petrograd, Odessa, Kiev, and many other cities. Prior to the October coup, Bolshev, Bolshev was not very influential among Jews, but just before the uprising, Natinson, Kamkoff, and Steinberg, on behalf of the left socialist
Starting point is 01:34:47 revolutionaries, had signed a combat pact with Bolsheviks, Trotsky, and Kaminov. And some Jews distinguished themselves among the Bolsheviks in their very first victories, and some even became famous. The commissar of the famed Latvian regiments of the 12th Army, which did so much for the success of the Bolshevik coup, was Semyon Nakimson. Jewish soldiers paid a notable Jewish soldiers played a notable role during preparation and execution of the armed uprisings of October 1917 in Petrograd and other cities and also during suspension of mutinies
Starting point is 01:35:23 and armed resurgence against the new Soviet regime. The Balfour Declaration was like a bomb dropped on all of this. Now, of course, it didn't happen until much later, but the concept seemed to be in the minds now of elite the elites of England that this might happen we're coming to the end of World War I which means we're coming to the end of the Ottoman Empire
Starting point is 01:35:48 now it didn't happen the British wanted to control the entire area there were plenty of Jews in Palestine that the state of Israel was you know essentially put on top of but remember all of these Jews
Starting point is 01:36:06 whether they supported the Bolsheiks or not were all leftists they all were one variant of leftists or another. The Polet Zion, as we've mentioned before, that was essentially the Moses Hess faction. These were as violently anti-Russian as any of the rest of them. But if there's a concept that maybe we're going to be able, at least some of us are going to be able to leave for the Middle East,
Starting point is 01:36:29 that's going to change things. And it did upset Lenin, you know, Lenin being essentially a frontman at this point. But the Balfour Declaration, this was huge at the time. The minute it was put out, there was a huge split among the Jews, even revolutionary Jews. It is widely known that during the historical session of the Congress of Soviets on October 27, 2 acts, the decree on land and the decree on peace were passed. But it didn't leave a mark in history that after the decree on peace, but before the decree on land, another resolution was passed.
Starting point is 01:37:04 It declared it a matter of honor for local Soviets to prevent Jewish. and any other pogroms by dark forces. Programs by red forces of light were not anticipated. So even here, at the Congress of Workers and Peasants' Deputies, the Jewish question was put ahead of the peasant one. Yeah, there was a flurry of decrees. Some of them took, some of them didn't. This is even before the war began, the Civil War began.
Starting point is 01:37:37 you had German forces in different parts of Russia after the, you know, the Bresseltov's treaty that Lenin had negotiated. Extremely unpopular. That was something that turned the tide against the Jews to some extent, but it was too late by then. But again, they knew that they were unpopular. I don't care what faction they were a part of. They agreed on far more than they disagreed on. but now, you know, the Tsar's gone. The church isn't the official church anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:14 We have a tremendous amount of control, at least in the cities. We're making huge profits. Do we want to go, you know, farther than this? Well, the Jews are known for going farther than that. They're known for this. They're known for never being satisfied. And, of course, it happened. Remember what the Soviet Union really was.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Up until the 1970s, up until the 1970s, the creation of a, you know, if you don't have a market economy, in their mind, anyway, you have a planned economy. Other methods of organizing the economy existed in Russia. You know, the commune, guilds, all that, that was immediately destroyed. That was part of Russian prosperity. It wasn't a capitalist country for the most part. Although you did, you know, it was industrializing very, very rapidly. I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought.
Starting point is 01:39:11 What was I talking about? What I say? You were talking about how it wasn't a capitalist. You were talking about through the 1970s, up until the 1970s. Yeah, well, the Jews, you know, well, at this point, yeah, I lost it. Sorry about that. But it became absolutely imperative. for them to
Starting point is 01:39:39 stomp out any anti-Jewish action whatsoever. Even in the white army. I mean, everyone knew what the Jews were, of course. But you only had, like, Dietrich's faction or a capels faction, the more orthodox groups who were more than aware of what the Jews were. These were the royalist parts of the white army.
Starting point is 01:40:03 The Cossacks certainly knew. But the Cossacks didn't think in all right, terms, they thought it in their own areas, which turned out to be a huge error on their part. And part of the reason the whites lost the war where the Cossacks were hard as hard as nails. But after the ice march, when I have a paper on that too, you know, Cornelov, who was killed on that march, was very, very upset by the fact that the Cossacks didn't think, and we need to build an anti-communist movement. It has to be all-Russian and yes the Cossacks fought the reds all over the place and succeeded for the
Starting point is 01:40:43 most part they were always hard they were always combat experienced um always oppressed during the the um the Soviet era but they only considered their own section southern russia they wanted the independence of their own region and that was it it was very hard to get them to think about um anything else i know what it was you know uh the fact that russia wasn't Russia anymore. You know, what I was saying was Monarch's gun,
Starting point is 01:41:15 high profits are being made, is still a revolutionary government, the church is not official anymore. You know, this is Russia. To them, it's not rusted to any normal person. So you're going to have divisions there. But
Starting point is 01:41:32 when Lennon talked about the white forces, and he said, Jews always need a little bit of anti-Semitism. They refer to even the more non-anti-Jewish whites as black hundred clergy, you know, pogromous. And they really weren't. Some of them, some of them certainly knew what was going on, but not all of them. And so Lennon presented the whites as just this fanatical anti-Jewish movement. well, in effect, they were because that was the Bolshevik movement
Starting point is 01:42:09 and the left in general was completely Judaic. And more than anything else, I've said 100 times. Unity over all things, not just in terms of command, but in terms of ideology. White forces were
Starting point is 01:42:27 all over the place. It was so it's so frustrating to read. 30 years I've been reading about this in Russia and English, in English, and Ukrainian. They made so many mistakes, which, you know, today, you know, I mean, who are we to judge them? But even at the time seemed to be absolutely absurd. Plus the fact that the Bolsheviks were not honest as to what they wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Lennon believed in a command economy. It was hard to put that in a practice at the time. That's what war communism was. But the economy completely collapsed. hence the new economic policy, which didn't last long. Stalin was unable to, you know, since he had established himself and with far more power, was able to create the command economy. But Trotsky and Lenin were all in favor of it.
Starting point is 01:43:19 As I said in my book, the Russian Soviet experiment, the purpose, the Bolshevik takeover from the Jewish point of view was to take all of the productive capacity in the Russian Empire for themselves. That's what a command economy is. The party owns everything. The party controls everything. Workers were exploited beyond anything in the factories of Britain at the time.
Starting point is 01:43:49 The exploitation, they had no days off. Sunday was abolished pretty quickly. I know the late, late Lenin or early Stalin. So there was only, I think there was a five-day week in Stalin's world. There were no days off, no time off. They were exploited beyond more than our words can say, which was no problem for them.
Starting point is 01:44:14 That labor was not the issue. It was control. And the fact that it was a Jewish movement to take over this required, of course, required pseudonyms, but also required these laws against anti-Semitism. And the white armies, again, frustratingly, were all over the place on this. I think I said this before, but I think the British at one point said to Colchak, if you eliminate the anti-Semites in your group, we'll give you some assistance.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And in my article on the topic, I said, yeah, well, that means that there'll be an army of seven. because everyone knew all these pro-Semitic things that he had to do apologize to the Jews and put Jews in strong command positions disarm all these ridiculous things that the British were trying to say
Starting point is 01:45:12 which is another way of saying we're not going to support you in any way Jews were always at the center but even the White Army was so fractured on all of these issues and Jews were no different everyone knew what the Jew was
Starting point is 01:45:26 whether or not that was a major part of the of the army itself was a separate matter Dietricks it was Capel it was the mainstream groups you know
Starting point is 01:45:38 Danikin and Colchak maybe not you know Colchak went to his grave thinking that the allies would eventually side with him and bail him out even though that they were already financing the red the red
Starting point is 01:45:53 the Red Army and he just had this naeufte that I can't explain in any way except maybe the war he had fought in World War I there was some level of PTSD there that led him to believe that we fought we're all on the same side
Starting point is 01:46:11 here but you know on the Jewish question it was dominant only in certain parts of the white army itself but like everything else wherever the Soviets went
Starting point is 01:46:27 whatever they took over there were mass killings and we don't have a market economy they created a they destroyed all actual socialism I go into great detail in my book on that subject all kinds of the communes the Artels the brotherhoods
Starting point is 01:46:43 these were ancient socialist institutions you know that it's not a legitimate socialist movement the first thing they do is destroy those. It was simply a matter of controlling all forces of production from one place, which is a banker's dream, of course, controlling all forces of production and living off it. Every one of the Bolshevik leaders, Jewish or not, were millionaires at the time of their death.
Starting point is 01:47:18 No one more so than Trot. I think Trotky, in today's money, would have been a billionaire. And he was killed in Mexico. He had two bank accounts that were finally uncovered and they were ridiculous. And this was all stolen from Russian labor that they pretended to represent. It's shocking. Even when I was in college, I kind of took it for granted that they, oh, they supported labor.
Starting point is 01:47:42 They wanted a labor society. The way they went about it was wrong. And they had no interest in labor at all. They had no connection to them. They didn't even know them. Jews were, Jews had no, were completely alienated from any of that. And once Zionism, well, once Israel wasn't established, you know, not until the end of World War II, then they had to remain focused on, on Russia.
Starting point is 01:48:09 And they were all revolutionaries, for the most part. It's to what extent they were willing to go, how far they were willing to go. And many of them were simply waiting for who won. You know, you had plenty of Jews who went to exile. because they were either anarchists or more moderate or something, but they all hated the monarchy, and they all hated Russia. Because even the Poli-Zion, we've heard that group a few times now. That's essentially Moses Hess, the combination of Zionism and Jewish nationalism and socialism.
Starting point is 01:48:42 The deeply occultish, all that was almost a Masonic cult itself as Trotsky was. So that's the level of complexity we're dealing with here. level of complexity of this era it's really hard to put it all you know make a coherent list of things all right we will uh begin chapter 15 on the next episode alongside the bolsheviks i encourage everyone to go to the show notes and to go to the description on the videos and donate to dr johnson and um yeah i'm sure that everyone is benefiting from this uh every Everyone I've heard from has said they are benefiting from this. So go pay your tuition on this college course, this college course that you will not get in college.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. Talk to in a few days. All right, ma'am. I want to welcome everyone back to part 63 of our reading of 200 years together. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing? I'm going to be conventional today. I'm going to say, well, you know, Pete, I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:49:52 one very well because frankly I am and can't believe we've come this far and this is chapter 15 this is what our listeners our friends have been waiting for for God knows how long and I definitely encourage people to you know take you whatever however you're seeing this or hearing this to repost it in different places this is the stuff that everyone is everyone talks about and it's very important that everyone talk about it and have someone like charlesonneton backing us up it was a wonderful thing he did before he died just before he died all right chapter 15 alongside the bolsheviks this theme the jews alongside the bolsheviks is not new far from it how many pages already written on this subject the one who wants to demonstrate that
Starting point is 01:50:50 the revolution was anything but russian foreign by nature invokes Jewish surnames and pseudonyms, thus claiming to exonerate the Russians from all responsibility in the Revolution of 17. As for the Jewish authors, those who denied the Jews sharing the revolution, as well as those who have always recognized it, all agreed that these Jews were not Jews by spirit. They were renegades. We also agree on that.
Starting point is 01:51:16 We must judge people for their spirit. Yes, they were renegades. but the Russian leaders of the Bolshevik party were also not Russians by spirit. They were very anti-Russian and certainly anti-Orthodox. With them, the great Russian culture reduced to a doctrine into political calculations, was distorted. Well, there's one thing I want to say, in no way, and I've read countless Russian authors in the original talking about this, there's no way I could list them all. and none of them talking about the Jews and Bolshevism ever say that therefore the Russians are exonerated. They realize that ethnic Russians do have a share in this, permitting them to do what they did.
Starting point is 01:52:07 You know, becoming degenerate, at least at the nobility. No one has ever said that. Now, Solzhenitsyn here is talking about the Russian press. How many thousands of pages? Well, for your average norming in the U.S., he has never come across this. Professors, alleged specialists in this, have never come across it. It's, you know, it's censored. It's not in libraries.
Starting point is 01:52:38 If they find it, they find it by accident. They're not going to find it on Google. So in Russia, however, it's extremely common. You find it everywhere. but he's right to say that, yes, there are thousands and thousands of pages on the Jewish connection to Bolivism. It's absolutely absurd now, ridiculous, for Jews to try to deny it or anyone to try to deny it. And as Michael Jones will say, the very nature of, you know, Khazar Judaism is to be renegade. They weren't renegade.
Starting point is 01:53:12 The whole spirit was as a renegade. That's what the rejection of Logos leads to. That's what the Jews were and are wherever they go. The question should be asked in another way, namely, how many scattered renegades should be brought together to form a homogenous political current? What proportion of nationals? As far as the Russian renegades are concerned, the answer is known. Alongside the Bolsheviks, there were enormous numbers and unforgivable number. But for the Jewish renegades, what was by the enrol.
Starting point is 01:53:44 and by the energy deployed, their share in establishment of Bolshevik power. Another question concerns the attitude of the nation towards its own renegades. However, the latter was contrasted ranging from abomination to admiration, from mistrust to adherence. It has manifested itself in the very reactions of the popular masses, whether Russian, Jewish, or Lithuanian, and life itself much more than in the the briefings of historians. And finally, can nations deny their renegades? Is there any sense in this denial? Should a nation remember or not remember them?
Starting point is 01:54:26 Can it forget the monster they have begotten? To this question, the answer is no doubt. It is necessary to remember. Every people must remember its own renegades. Remember them as their own. So that, there is no escape. Yeah, that's good as far as it goes. But, you know, we've been through the numbers before.
Starting point is 01:54:48 All of our listeners know what the numbers are in terms of their radically disproportionate element, at least in leadership positions. But there's no way that something like this could function without a Russian, Ukrainian, whatever it is, element. But there were foreigners, not just among Jews, but from, you know, Western Europe, from the U.S. We talked about in our discussion of Shinebaum in Mexico that the party in Mexico was founded by an Indian, Japanese guy, and a bunch of Jews. You know, so it's not merely Jews, but it certainly was, it certainly was foreign and keep something very important in mind. The average, I want to say the average Russian at the time, the average literate Russian at the time, I think would, I think, would struggle to tell you what a Bolivist is. And that's their own fault because the Bolsheviks would never tell the truth about what they believed in. In 1917, Lenin's agenda, which he put out in front of everybody, was a lie. He believed in none of it. No more than he believed in Ukrainian nationalism, which he tried to promote briefly to destroy its connection to Russia. So, depending on the audience, Bolshevism was whatever Lenin needed it to be.
Starting point is 01:56:18 He and Transky knew exactly what it was, and that goes even worse for Englishmen and Americans. I also want you to keep in mind that in America, not so much in Britain, in America, there were like eight people who knew anything about Russia. It really was at the end of World War II that you started having people who specialized in Russian history. there were no Russian history was something you didn't study in the US in the early 20th century there were Harvard I think had a Russian language program you had very few people in government who knew anything about it God knows in Congress the military who knew anything about it this was a huge black spot so how much more would Bolivism be
Starting point is 01:57:07 We've already discussed all the factions or semi-factions of the far left, all of them Jewish, you know, on their leadership levels, making it even more complicated. So you think of the average literate Russian, and I'm not sure he knew what Bolshevism was really all about, not until the Civil War began. And then, deep down, is there an example of renegade more striking than Lenin himself? However, Lenin was Russian. There is no point in denying it. Yes, he loathed. He detested everything that had to do with ancient Russia, all Russian history and a fortiori Orthodoxy. From Russian literature, he had retained only Sharnashev and Soltakov Sherdrin Turgenev with his liberal spirit amused him and Tolstoy, the accuser, too. He never should have. showed the least feeling of affection for anything, not even for the river, the Volga, on whose
Starting point is 01:58:12 banks his childhood took place, and he did not hesitate a lawsuit against his peasants for damage to his lands. Moreover, it was he who pitilessly delivered the whole region to the appalling famine of 1921. Yes, all this is true, but it was we, the Russians, who created the climate in which Lenin grew up and filled him with hatred. It is in us that the Orthodox faith has lost its vigor, this faith in which he could have grown instead of declaring it a merciless war. How can one not see him as a renegade? And yet, he is Russian, and we Russians, we answer for him. His ethnic origins are sometimes invoked. Lenin was a mestizo issued from different races. His paternal grandfather, Nikolai Vailashevsky, was of Kalmik and Shuvash blood. His grandmother,
Starting point is 01:59:02 Anna Smirnova, was a Kalmik. His other grandfather, father Israel, Alexander of his name, baptism, Davidovich Blank, was a Jew, his other grandmother, Anna Ivanova Gropov, was the daughter of a German and a Swede, Anna Bida Ested. But that does not change the case. For nothing of this makes it possible to exclude him from the Russian people. We must recognize him, we must recognize in him a Russian phenomenon on the one hand, for all the ethnic groups which gave him birth, have been implicated in the history of the Russian Empire, and on the other hand, a Russian phenomenon, the fruit of the country we have built. We Russians in a social climate, even if he appears to us, because of his spirit
Starting point is 01:59:48 always indifferent to Russia, or even completely anti-Russian, as a phenomenon completely foreign to us. We cannot, in spite of everything, disown him. Well, maybe that's going too far. London was obviously a foreigner We've We've spoken about this I think it was last week People loved to believe that Lenin and Stalin were Jews They were not
Starting point is 02:00:12 I did mention the The grandfather Here Israel Blanc That's pretty much as close as he got But because it wasn't obvious In his appearance or in his name He was very useful
Starting point is 02:00:29 as the head of this movement, which was heavily Jewish. You know, the whole question of ethnicity, ethnic nationalism has been my obsession since I was, you know, I grew up in a town heavily ethnic between Italians and Jews and us. I don't have a drop of Russian blood in me as far as I know, but I'm Russian Orthodox and an expert in Russian Ukrainian history. history. And I've had major people, as we've talked about before, Russian imperial union
Starting point is 02:01:06 order saying that I have, I understand Russia more than most Russians do at an intuitive level, not merely at an intellectual level. That's been said of me before. It was also said of Sarah from Rose, who was Anglo-Saxon as far as I know. I'm an Irishman. So to some extent, I know St. John Maximovic said this too. that one of the, the only kind of positive thing about the revolution is you had so many Russian Orthodox exiles that the faith was spread all over the planet. People who had no connection to it before were coming across it. Now, the problem there was that the exiles, unlike the Jews, were extremely closed off. It's, it was difficult to me. They didn't speak English, even if they could,
Starting point is 02:01:59 they were wary of outsiders. I had to kind of be patient. And I know other people have come across this as well because everyone I came across was a native. I had to be patient until they accepted me. So all the newspapers were in Russian. But still, people like myself, I'm not comparing myself to them,
Starting point is 02:02:26 but Sarah from Rose, that whole bunch of people, So many abbots now, so many bishops that have German names, who have, you know, Anglo names, that we've had to, you know, take the torch, so to speak, take the baton, while so many, with V at the end of their name in Russia, just refuse. and, you know, it's kind of odd being, you know, a specialist in an area where you are not a member of the ethnicity. But so many people have mentioned this to me that I can't, you know, I'm not going to deny it anymore. But it's true, you know, masonry had deeply infiltrated the Russian nobility. The sexual revolution had taken over, which we were with Peter the Great's purpose in, St. Petersburg, the wealthy, the church had been silenced in the 18th century. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've,
Starting point is 02:03:48 before the war. I mentioned St. John of Cronstadt. He's your archetypal result of that. So even from the Petrine era, the very beginning of the 18th century, being Russian in St. Petersburg was a negative.
Starting point is 02:04:07 That's why he shaved off beards. You couldn't wear Russian dress. He used Roman style architecture. So that would mean someone like me would be far more Russian than anyone over there at the time, you know, regardless of my of my ethnic background. Alexander Dugan always said that Russia is a civilization, far more than it is just an ethnicity or race. It's obviously an ethnicity, but Russian culture is based on the church. I can't think of pretty much anything, culturally speaking.
Starting point is 02:04:47 even to the cuisine that isn't connected to the church or the calendar at one form or another. So if you're going to destroy the church, the Russian culture ends up being purely symbolic. You know, you read Tolstoy once in a while or something, and that's pretty much as far as it goes. It becomes a symbolic, you go to the Russian tea room in New York City. That's all it is. making matters worse we have the entirely Jewish mafia in America being called Russian
Starting point is 02:05:20 including by a very important guy on YouTube social media with a tremendous following Michael Francis who worked with them and he keeps calling them Russian none of them have Russian names but he keeps calling them Russians
Starting point is 02:05:38 they weren't one Jew after another and what was their headquarters the Odessa in Brooklyn, a bar. They were, you know, and they spoke Russian, I guess most of them, but, you know, that's the complexity we're dealing with here. And it's a culture, and the church was at the center. You can convert to Russian Orthodoxy. You can't convert to an ethnicity. But over time, especially when you live the life I do, you try to cut yourself off from the world as much as humanly possible,
Starting point is 02:06:13 You can become immersed into, you know, Sobarnost, Subunopravna, whatever you want to call it, and live that way. But it is a struggle. So these Russians, and Sultan Ethan talks about it in his other books, I think all of his other books. All of these guys who just were Licksbittles when it was clear that the Red were going to win the war. Oh, I was with you all along. You know, they joined the party just to get a good job. you know, they spouted all the slogans.
Starting point is 02:06:46 They did what they were told. And believe what they read in Pravda, you know, and tossed in places like that. So it's the same situation over and over again. But the ethnic part of it, because of the Russian dispersal, because of the revolution, has been, has been shown that the church really is the core of it. And because you convert to that, they have converts to essentially Russian civilization. What about the Jewish renegades? As we have seen during the year 1917, there was no particular attraction for the Bolsheviks
Starting point is 02:07:28 that manifested among the Jews. But their activism has played its part in the revolutionary upheavals. At the last Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, London 1907, which was, it is true, common with the Mensheviks, of 302 to 300,000. 105 delegates, 160 were Jews. More than half. It was promising. Then after the April 17 conference, just after the announcement of the explosive April thesis of Lenin, among the nine members of the new central committee were G. Zonaviev, L. Kaminov, I.A. Sferdloff, at the sixth summer Congress of the RKP, the Russian Communist Party of Bolsheviks, the new name of the RSDLP,
Starting point is 02:08:12 11 members were elected to the Central Committee, including Zinoviev, Svardloff, Trotsky, Yuritsky. Then at a historic meeting at Karpakov Street, Karpofka Street, in the apartment of Himmer and Flaxerman on October 10, 1917, when the decision to launch the Bolshevik coup was taken, among the 12 participants were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kaminov, Svanov, Sv, Svardloff, Yurikov. It was there that was elected the first Politburo, which was to have such a brilliant future and among its seven members also the same, Trotsky, Zonov, Kaminov, Sakonikov, which is already a lot. Diaspastmanic clearly states, there is no doubt that the Jewish renegades outnumbered the normal percentage. They occupied too great a place among the Bolshevik commissioners. Yeah, and I want to say they weren't renegades. That's the whole point. We discussed that going back to 1905.
Starting point is 02:09:15 They used the pogroms to create this false sense of, well, a mythical world that created their tremendous cohesion. That didn't go away. This was a Jewish movement. You did have some of the more extreme, you know, Hesedom who were worried about the atheism and stuff. But, you know, that didn't really matter. This was a Jewish movement, supported. by Russian Jews overwhelmingly, especially once the Reds won. Of course, all this was happening in the governing spheres of Bolshevism and in no way
Starting point is 02:09:52 foreshadowed a mass movement of Jews. Moreover, the Jewish members of the Politburo did not act as a constituted group. Thus, Kaminov and Zenov were against a hasty coup. The only master of the work, the genius of October's coup de force, was in fact Trotsky. He did not exaggerate his role in his lessons of October. This cowardly Lenin, who he had been hiding out, made no substantial contribution to the putch. Basically, because of his internationalism and following his dispute with the Bundes in 1903, Lenin adhered to the opinion that there was not and never would be such a thing as a Jewish nationality, that this was a reactionary action which disunited the revolutionary forces.
Starting point is 02:10:36 In agreement with him, Stalin held the Jews for a paper nation and considered their assimilation inevitable. Lenin, therefore, saw anti-Semitism as a maneuver of capitalism, an easy weapon in the hands of the counter-revolution, something that was not natural. He understood very well, however, what mobilizing force the Jewish question represented in the ideological struggle in general. And to exploit, for the good of the revolution, the feeling of bitterness particularly prevalent among the Jews, Lenin was always ready to do so. from the first days of the revolution however this appeal proved to be oh so necessary lenin clung to it he who had not foreseen anything on the plain of the state had not yet perceived how much the cultivated layer of the jewish nation and even more so its semi-cultivated layer which as a result of the war was found scattered throughout the whole of russia was going to save the day
Starting point is 02:11:31 throughout decisive months and years to begin with it was going to take the place of the russian officials massively determined to boycott the Bolshevik power. This population was composed of border residents who had been driven out of their villages and who had not returned there after the end of the war. For example, Jews expelled from Lithuania during the war had not all returned after the revolution, only the small rural people had returned, while the urban contingent of the Jews of Lithuania and the young had stayed to live in big cities of Russia. Yeah, we also discussed, and believe it or not, in the Mexican case,
Starting point is 02:12:09 Seinbaum comes from her grandfather and uncle were from that part of the world prior to the revolution. And there was a Lithuanian Soviet war roughly around this time, and they had to leave. There was a brief Lithuanian People's Republic. it wasn't entirely Jewish, unlike the Hungarian and some of the German, but it was about the names, the names were maybe a quarter from what I could see. Some were very obvious. Some were clearly, and I looked them all up, and they're not pseudonyms, for the most part. But again, that has more to do with separatism and their opposition to Russia than, bolivism. So it's not just that people didn't know what bolshevism was. People used it. I mean, Lenin's organization, Trotsky's organization, and the money they received was such
Starting point is 02:13:13 that regardless of their low level of support in the population, ridiculously low levels of support, they were always well funded. And as I've written before, they were willing to use methods of warfare that no one else is willing to do. The Red Army was commanded by so many Russian officers from the imperial era that had their families taken hostage. Well, the whites didn't do anything like that. So, even though there was a small number,
Starting point is 02:13:49 methods like this, and Jewish money, foreign money coming in, created a what was artificially large movement. And even the Red Army during the Civil War had plenty of foreign in it in it too. Many of them were. You talked about, you know, Tronsky going back and forth,
Starting point is 02:14:08 Seinbaum's family, going back and forth, you know, starting a movement here, starting movement there, getting money from here, getting money from there, signing a contract here to make sure that they had the money. White, there were soldiers. They had no capability of this. And so that just adds to the complexity here. I think at this point
Starting point is 02:14:32 people were starting to learn exactly what Bolshevism was but they had to see it they had to witness it because even the Cossacks at first were kind of neutral until they saw what they did
Starting point is 02:14:45 with their own eyes during the Civil War in the southern part of Russia so so many Russians Ukrainians and Cossacks they had to see for themselves and then they were able to to some extent mobilize
Starting point is 02:14:59 But the mobilization was nothing like the Bolsheviks were capable of doing, like the Jews were capable of doing. And it was precisely after the abolition of the Pala settlement in 1917 that the great exodus of Jews from its boundaries into the interior of the country ensued. This exodus is no longer that of refugees or expelees, but indeed of new settlers. Information from a Soviet source from the year 1920 testifies in the city of Samara in recent years, tens of thousands of Jewish refugees and Espelis have established themselves. In Erkutsk, the Jewish population has increased reaching 15,000 people. Important Jewish settlements were formed in Central Russia, as well as on the banks of the Volga and the Urals. However, the majority continue to live in subsidies from social welfare and other philanthropic
Starting point is 02:15:46 organizations. And here are the Izvestia calling for the party organizations, the Jewish sections, and the Departments of the National Commissariat to organize a vast campaign for the non-returned to the tombs of the ancestors and for the participation in the work of production in Soviet Russia. Put yourself in the place of the Bolsheviks. They were only a small handful that had seized power, a power that was so fragile in whom great gods could one have confidence. Who could be called to rescue?
Starting point is 02:16:21 Simon Demonsten, a Bolshevik from the very beginning, and who, who, since January 1918, was at the head of the European Committee, specifically created within the Commissariat of Nationalities, gives us the thought of Lenin on this subject. Quote, the fact that a large part of the Middle Jewish intelligentsia settled in Russian cities has rendered a proud service to the Revolution. They defeated the vast sabotage enterprise we faced after the October Revolution, which was a great danger to us. They were numerous, not all, of course, far from it, to sabotage this sabotage, and it was
Starting point is 02:16:55 they who, at that fateful hour, saved the revolution, end quote. Lennon considered it inappropriate to emphasize this episode in the press, but he remarked that if we succeeded in seizing and restructuring the state apparatus, it was exclusively thanks to the pool of new civil servants, lucid, educated, and reasonably competent. It's really hard to separate the individual from the ethnic group here. Jews really functioned as one unit. They may have disagreed. They may have been like the old Soviet types.
Starting point is 02:17:31 They may have been Mensovics. But the Red Army and the very early Soviet government absolutely depended on them. And they were paid well. You know, they didn't have to work very hard in the beginning. The dying was done by others, of course. But that's, you know, you said that. You know, you said, I think it was a week ago, two weeks ago, you said it seems that all of these movements lead to Jews not working, not having to work. We were talking about Israel.
Starting point is 02:18:06 We're talking about the acid in Jerusalem. And again, what Bolshevism ultimately became, and no one was talking about central planning at this point. But central planning implies ownership of all productive capital in the country. And this is how Lennon Trotsky became extremely wealthy men. I've said that they acted like a mafia group, and they did. They were skimming consistently. They didn't believe in revolution as a way to protect the workers. They despise the workers.
Starting point is 02:18:48 This was a form of enrichment. and this is kind of a new argument that literature doesn't talk about it too much for obvious but not even the Russian literature talks about it too much is that Jews leaving where the massive pale of settlement which they could do anyway but now it was I guess official
Starting point is 02:19:07 and taking up residence in these cities immediately becoming the backbone of the far left even if not Bolshevik they became Bolshevik when they realized that they had no other choice the Bolsheviks thus appealed to the Jews from the very first hours of their takeover, offering to some executive positions to others' tasks of execution within the Soviet state apparatus. Oh, that word. And many, many answered the call and immediately entered. The new power was in the desperate need of executors who were faithful in every way. And there were many of them among the young secularized Jews who thus mingled with their colleagues. and others. These were not necessarily renegades. There were among them, some without political party affiliation, persons outside the revolution who had hitherto remained indifference of politics. For some, this approach was not ideological, it could be dictated only by personal interest.
Starting point is 02:20:05 It was a mass phenomenon, and from that time, the Jews no longer sought to settle in the forbidden countryside. They endeavored to reach to capitals. Quote, thousands of Jews joined the Bolsheviks in crowds, seeing them as the most fierce defender, of the revolution and the most reliable internationalists. The Jews abounded in the lower levels of the party apparatus. So remember, I mean, there's only so many Jews there. And it became a problem,
Starting point is 02:20:32 which is why Trotsky and so many others had to go abroad and bring them back. So not just the Jews from the pale of settlement, but throughout Europe and even the U.S. had to be brought back. It wasn't just the domination of the leadership. it was also within the lower levels, especially of the media and the punitive organs, like De Cheka. The Jew who obviously could not have come from the nobility, the clergy, or the civil service,
Starting point is 02:21:03 found himself among the ranks of the personalities of the future of the new clan. In order to promote the Jews' commitment to Bolshevism at the end of 1917, while the Bolsheviks were still sketching out their institutions, a Jewish department within the Commissariat of Nationalities began to function. The department was, since 1918, transformed into a separate European commissariat. And in March 1919, at the 8th Congress of the RKP, the Communist European Union of Soviet Russia, was to be proclaimed as an integral but autonomous part of the RKP.
Starting point is 02:21:38 The intention was to integrate this union into the common turn and thereby permanently undermine the Bund. especially European section within the Russian telegraph agency was also created. Rostah. D. Shubb justifies these initiatives by saying that, quote, large contingents of the Jewish youth joined the Communist Party, following the pogroms and the territories occupied by the whites from 1919 onwards. But this explanation does not hold the road.
Starting point is 02:22:09 For the massive entry of the Jews into the Soviet apparatus occurred toward the end of the year 1917 and during 1918. There is no doubt that the events of 1919, C. Chapter 16, strengthened the link between the Jewish elites and the Bolsheviks, but they in no way provoked it. Another author, a communist, explains the particularly important role of the Jewish revolutionary in our labor movement by the fact that we can observe what the Jewish workers highly develop the traits of character required of any leading role, traits which are still in draft form among the Russian workers, an exceptional energy, a sense of solidarity, a systematic mind. I think that by now, people who've been listening to this from the beginning,
Starting point is 02:22:55 know that the word ethnic cohesiveness has been one of the core links in this entire story. But that solidarity needs to be created, even if it has to be invented, the pogroms and everything else. They have to create at least some level of anti-Semitism so that they remain, just like the, the shuttle used to function. That's how they kept poor Jews within it. You know, so this was the core idea. And the whites were accused of programs that, of course, never happened. And this was a way of any Jews who eventually, of course, you had a class between Stalin and Trotsky, you had a bunch of Jews leaving. And following Trotsky, we've talked about that already before he was asked.
Starting point is 02:23:53 They eventually became neo-conservatives. But, you know, what we just read here, there's no getting out of it. And Jews, this will never happen, of course, but Jews have to take stock of themselves. They have to reflect on who they are that they created this level of misery and pain and agony. in the world and they took what was a very healthy prosperous society
Starting point is 02:24:19 run by the monarchy that I'll put up against any European power in terms of prosperity, wages, whatever you want, religiosity and destroyed it solely for their own profit.
Starting point is 02:24:33 They're going to have to and they'll never take stock of themselves. They'll never reflect. They demand that of everybody else. They'll never do it. Every once in a while you come across one
Starting point is 02:24:41 who realizes this. Maybe one is listening right now. But the Jewish mentality is such that it really can't take stock of themselves. They can't reflect on what they've done. There's no question here. And I've come across mainstream writers in the Russian language who agree with all of this.
Starting point is 02:25:03 There's no getting out of it anymore. You just, you have to lie if you want to deny that this was a Judaic movement. And the Bund, of course, this wasn't necessary anymore because the Bolsheviks were now, the Jewish left. What was a Bund there for? So you had personal problems, you had turf issues, no real issues in terms of ideology. There was no ideological issues between Lenin and Stalin, at least not before Trotsky left. Then all of a sudden everything Solent did was wrong.
Starting point is 02:25:38 But prior to that, he was, you know, there were all the same minds. ideologically speaking which is which is impressive you can't say that about the whites but but jews you know however you want to slice it in russia this was their movement it would not have existed if the russian empire hadn't taken those chunks of poland during the late 19th century and then in the partitions after the destruction of the polish empire Few authors deny the role of organizers that was that of the Jews in Bolshevism. D.S. Pazmanek points out, The appearance of Bolshevism is linked to the peculiarities of Russian history,
Starting point is 02:26:22 but its excellent organization, Bolshevism, is due in parts of the action of the Jewish commissioners. The active role of the Jews in Bolshevism did not escape the notice of observers, notably in America. Quote, the Russian Revolution rapidly moved from the destructive phase, to the constructive phase, and this is clearly attributable to the edifying genius inherent to Jewish dissatisfaction. In the midst of the euphoria of October, how many were not? The Jews themselves admit it, with their heads held high, their action within Bolshevism. Well, that first sentence bothers me a little bit.
Starting point is 02:27:02 A few authors deny organizers for the Jews. Well, in America, they certainly do deny it. I know this from personal experience. When I was a professor for 20 years all over the country, I never pushed an agenda, unlike my colleagues who did all the time. Because I truly believe that if all the systems were given a rational and objective description to people, ours would win. And, of course, the stuff is going to come up, but I'm not going to lie about it. Yes, this was a simple fact.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Here are the names. And that was enough to get you into trouble because, of course, that's not true. Or that's just Nazi propaganda or whatever it is. Truth wasn't relevant. Now, I wasn't removed from a few places for that, but I got into trouble for it. As I mentioned to you before, only one Jewish professor came to my defense at that point. But, you know, truth is no defense in these cases. But in the U.S., tenured professors dealing with Russian-Ukrainian history, they will deny that the Jews controlled Bolshevism.
Starting point is 02:28:18 It's not an issue that they bring up. The only people who might specialists who are actually of Jewish background, they may get away with it. But in that case, they're not even saying it as a negative. They're saying it as a positive because so many professors love the red victory in them and the civil war. So, and because Russia's always front-page news, Russia is the center of the world. This stuff is of crucial importance. Let us remember, just as before the revolutionaries and liberal radicals had been quick to exploit for political purposes and not for charity, the restrictions imposed on Jews.
Starting point is 02:28:57 Likewise, in the months and years that followed October, the Bolsheviks, with the utmost complacence, complaisance, used the Jews within the state apparatus and the party to, not because of sympathy, but because they found their interests in the competence, intelligence, and the particularism of the Jews towards the Russian population. On the spot, they used Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese. These were not going to be sentimental. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:25 The Jewish population in its mass showed a suspicious, even hostile attitude toward the Bolsheviks. But when, as a result of the revolution, it had acquired complete freedom which fostered a real expansion of Jewish activity in the political, social, and cultural spheres, a well-organized activity to boot. It did nothing to prevent the Bolshevik Jews from occupying the key positions, and these made an exceedingly cruel use of this new power fallen into their hands. Yeah, they were suspicious of any power.
Starting point is 02:29:56 That first sentence has to be put in context. You know, they're not hostile to a group of people who say that we're going to ban all manifestations of anti-Semitism. People didn't know that about them. You know, Jews were, Bolivism was the Jewish political expression at the time for the most part. The far left was the Jewish expression at the time. You know, any Jew that was a right winger who was a royalist will eventually convert it to Orthodoxy,
Starting point is 02:30:30 which there were several, including my teacher, Don Rosenberg, back in the 80s. but those were extremely rare. From the 40s of the 20th century onwards, after communist rule broke with international Judaism, Jews and communists became embarrassed and afraid, and they preferred to stay quiet and concealed the strong participation of Jews in the Communist Revolution.
Starting point is 02:30:54 However, the inclinations to remember and name the phenomena were described by the Jews themselves as purely anti-Semitic intentions. In the 1970s and 1980s, under the pressure of new revelations, the vision of the revolutionary years was adjusted. A considerable number of voices were heard publicly. Thus, the poet Nehume Korsavin wrote, if we make the participation of the Jews in the revolution a taboo subject, we can no longer talk about the revolution at all. There was a time when the pride of this participation was even prized. The Jews took part in the revolution
Starting point is 02:31:29 in an abnormally high proportions. M. Agorski wrote on his part, participation of the Jews in the revolution in the civil war has not been limited to a very active engagement in the state apparatus. It had been infinitely wider. Similarly, the Israeli socialist T. Soril Nikoff asserts, at the beginning of the revolution, the Jews served as the foundation of the new regime. Again, you're not going to hear, I mean, I haven't been an academic in a while. The last time with probably 2017, maybe I'm missing something. I don't think so. I still think that, at least in the U.S., this isn't something that's going to be discussed.
Starting point is 02:32:18 Now, prior to the 40s, the Soviet state claimed that it was the October revolution of the Russian people. That's what created our legitimacy. Afterwards, it was their victory in World War II. And it's something, unfortunately, that Vladimir Putin continues to support from the old Soviet nationalist point of view, you know, the Eurasianist point of view. That's the one thing I disagree with him on heavily, even though I'm a big fan of his. But that's still the central core of his generation. He's 72 now. That generation, you know, was not around many Jews, was hostile to.
Starting point is 02:33:06 towards the Jews. Jews had removed themselves from the USSR roughly by the 1970s because the USSR was supporting Syria and Iraq and any anti-Zionist movement. This was a big problem. And of course, the whole Jackson Vannock Amendment and everything else. But World War II, at least at this point, is what kept Jews connected to the system. We'll talk about this a bit a little bit later, but also in each, and we'll talk to you know,
Starting point is 02:33:38 about the great myth that Solomon was his anti-Semite. He wasn't. He was surrounded by Jews. The purge was of people who really weren't
Starting point is 02:33:48 modern state bureaucrats. They were revolutionaries. Same thing goes for the army. These were guys that were very good in revolutionary guerrilla context, but not in a modern army.
Starting point is 02:34:00 That's why he removed so many people. He didn't kill them. He removed all of these people. And since so, many of them were Jews, it looks like he was anti-Semitic. Now, I've mentioned this before, but that's the problem that intellectuals have in the U.S. So you have to call Stalin anti-Semitic. Either that, or you have to admit that Bolshevism in the beginning prior to, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:28 the World War II was Jewish. So him getting rid of the revolutionaries and keeping on the the truly military, the Zhukovs, is that basically, because of the icebreaker thesis, is that he's going to invade Europe and it would be better he needs. Yes. Yeah, strong military minds. I came across that for the first time in Yolkham Hoffman's
Starting point is 02:34:54 Stalin's War of Extermination, which is the best similar icebreaker thesis, extremely well done. and that's the first time he goes through at great length what these purges were Icebreaker Yes, Suvorov does in a couple of books actually Yeah, the men that he got rid of Were great for a revolutionary style war
Starting point is 02:35:19 Civil War, a guerrilla war But not, yeah, if you're going to invade Europe These are not the men for it You need actual normal military guys like Zukov And you had a lot of young guys coming through the academies that were willing to take that role. Yeah, most of them were Jews, it's true, but that's why he purged it. That's why that all occurred.
Starting point is 02:35:43 What was good in 1918 wasn't good in 1941. And it's precisely because he was going to invade Central Europe that he needed a fully professional army and fully professional civil service. But there are also many Jewish writers who, up to this day, either deny the Jews' contributions, of Bolshevism or even reject the idea rashly or this is the most frequent, consider it only reluctantly. However, the fact is proven. Jewish renegades have long been leaders in the Bolshevik party, heading the Red Army, Trotsky, the VTSIK, which is the all-Russian central executive committee, Svredlov, the two capitals, Zinoviev and Kaminov, the common turn, Zinoviev, the profantern, Drizzo-Lozovsky, and the Komsomel, Oscar Rifkin, and later Lazar Shotskin,
Starting point is 02:36:39 who also headed the international communist youth. It is true that in the first Sovnarkham, there was only one Jew, but that one was Trotsky, the number two, behind Lenin, whose authority surpassed that of all the others. And from November 1917 to the summer of 1918, and the real organ of the government was not the Sov-Sov-Narchum, but was what was called the little Sov-Sov-Norke, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Caroline, Proshian. After October, the V-T-I-K, Presidium, was of equal importance to that of the Sov-Norcomkum, and among its six members were Svaridloff, Kamenev, Voladarski, Svetloff, Nakamkis.
Starting point is 02:37:27 Keep in mind, remember, those of us who have personal experience in dealing with Jews at the organizational level, they don't have to have a majority to run an organization. All they need is the
Starting point is 02:37:43 greatest level of cohesion. They could be a small minority and still run the organization. And this is something that they depended on throughout every there's only so many Jews. And yet this state and party, the apparatus was
Starting point is 02:37:59 massive. So it was just enough. Some of them were completely dominated, but not all of them. But that's irrelevant. They were still Judaic, even though there weren't necessarily all Jews. They thought like Jews. Last paragraph. M. Agorski.
Starting point is 02:38:21 M. Agorski. And when I say that, it sounds like one thing, but it's M. Agorski. rightly points out, for a where it was not customary to see Jews in power, what a contrast. A Jew in the presidency of the country, a Jew in the ministry of war, there was there something to which the ethnic population of Russia could hardly accustom itself to. Yes, what a contrast, especially when one knows of what president, of what minister it was. At this point, it's pretty clear to anyone who wasn't benefiting from the Bolsheviks
Starting point is 02:39:02 what this movement really was. It wasn't a movement anywhere. They were in power. They were in power. Yeah, there's civil wars going on, but these Jews hated them. Now, they knew this before. We've been through it a thousand times since in all the episodes here. We've proven it a million different ways.
Starting point is 02:39:19 They hated them. They were in it for themselves. They didn't care about workers. God knows they didn't care about peasants. because they were in power, yes, but they were in power precisely against your typical Russian worker, your typical Russian peasant, who now is going to suffer beyond belief
Starting point is 02:39:39 because they were in power. There's a reason they weren't accustomed to Jews in power. It was a nightmare come true. We know exactly what happened. None of this stuff is secret. Everything's been declassified, especially since 1990. there's no secrets anymore
Starting point is 02:39:57 get whatever you want I could read Russian okay I can't speak it I've read something everything's out in the open not a whole lot you could do about it if you want to deny it but they saw a Jew in power
Starting point is 02:40:09 it wasn't just like you know my dentist up the street this was someone who had an ideological and religious hatred of your average Russian that's the problem all right we hit a natural stopping point
Starting point is 02:40:23 and we'll pick up the next one, we'll pick up from there on the next episode. So, um, as I do at the end of every episode, please go and go to the show notes and go to the description of the videos and please donate and pay your tuition to Dr. Johnson for this, uh, very long and very exhaustive college course that, um, I haven't heard any complaints about yet. well i yeah i i could make i can make complaints my own mind about myself um i'm my own worst critic which is probably a good thing but then you know i deal with similar but different topics on radio albion and my uh patreon which of course you know is all on the show notes which i truly
Starting point is 02:41:15 appreciate thank you yeah of course all right see in a couple days thank you all right man That's part 64 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you today? Where exactly was Lars Ehrlich on 9-11? I mean, are we, are we positive that he had no connection to it? I've been a drummer for many years, and he is, he is awful. I hate him. They should have hired Dave Lombardo the minute he was free.
Starting point is 02:41:52 But I think he had said me, being in Israeli, I think he was connected to it. No one has ever answered my question. Where was he when the towers came down? Well, I thought he was Danish. Oh, right. Well, yeah. Now, he's a, he's a Jew. His father was a Jew.
Starting point is 02:42:11 Tennis player, wealthy, excellent manager, terrible drummer. What's funny is he has, if you, are, First of all, on YouTube, there's a whole bunch of videos of him live, their cuts live, where he just makes the most catastrophic mistakes, like right in the middle of his song. I've seen those. And what he's playing is not what the audience hears, especially where some of the faster bass drum stuff, which I don't think he did in the first place. I've also seen some of those They have no faith in them And when I saw
Starting point is 02:42:56 Dave Lombardo filled in for a couple of days And they were a totally different band They could actually They don't have to worry about it It was amazing I still don't know But still being a Jew I don't
Starting point is 02:43:07 I think I think maybe There's there's some work to be done there Yeah I saw a slayer On the South of Heavens whore in Lombardo is just an absolute he's a fucking menace on the stage I mean it's just it's hard to ignore what he's doing up there
Starting point is 02:43:26 absolutely well thrash has always been a very drum-centered genre or subgenre and he created it it was the first album in 83 show no mercy and he created the entire thing so and I always used to think that what
Starting point is 02:43:44 a terrible job would be to have to replace him and of course I know that he's been, and the guy now, Paul, who's, who's, it was a good, good drummer, but my God, he was in so over his head in the beginning, he's improved a lot, you know, at the end, I saw him in, uh, their last show in Pittsburgh, and he was struggling. Um, but then I see a YouTube later, a few months later, he was getting, getting, um, he was able to do certain things again. So I think he just, it just comes with time. Lars Ulrich also has this strange delivery when he's talking and what's funny is the first time, one of the first times I had my friend Jose Nino on my show who you've been on his show. Yeah. Somebody goes, hey, when did you, when did you get Lars Ulrich to come on the show? Because if you listen to Jose's delivery, it's sort of like Lars Ulrich, and I can't think of a worse insult. And Jose is like one of my, you know, oldest friends in this whole thing.
Starting point is 02:44:52 He's got like California, a very, very severe California accent. Yeah. But my God, you know, he should be the manager. You get Dave in there. It'd be a totally different thing. Yeah, that would be something. I assume there's videos on YouTube of Dave playing with the Metallica that I've never seen. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:11 Well, I've, when I had a Facebook account, I posted. them and then reposted them many times and you can see the band is totally different you know I'm old enough where I call Ride the Lightning the new one but I haven't paid much attention to him over the last 15 years
Starting point is 02:45:31 or so partially because of Lars you're not missed so much and yeah but in the very beginning you know I don't think I don't think it was necessarily him he was a terrible player and but he is a very good manager and he he owns the metallic name which has something to do
Starting point is 02:45:52 with with how the band is run yeah all right i'm sure people are upset that we talked about music up until this point so i could talk about laurs all day so consider yourself lucky well i think people could listen i think people could listen to you complain about laris all day too i think most most of the people um you know there was that meme going around for the longest time where people would put up a picture of Cliff Burton and said, and the meme would say it should have been Lars. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I hate to say it. But, you know, the one, the one standout is kill.
Starting point is 02:46:28 Well, anyway. Yeah. All right. Picking up where we left off in the, uh, alongside the Bolsheviks chapter. The first major action of the Bolsheviks was by signing the peace separate separated from the breast Levos, Levosk. to cede to Germany an enormous portion of the Russian territory in order to assert their power over the remaining part. The head of the signatory delegation was Ayov, the head of foreign policy, Trotsky.
Starting point is 02:46:58 His secretary and attorney, Izalkin, had occupied the cabinet of Comrade Neratov at the ministry and purged the old apparatus to create a new organization, the commissariat for foreign affairs. giving away not only a huge portion of Western Russia but the big money-making areas the most industrialized areas the Bolsviks weren't popular to begin with and this made them even more
Starting point is 02:47:27 or even less popular I should say now I don't necessarily disagree with them pulling out of the war but certainly not a not a that price. And of course, they got it back in World War II at the end of World War II. But it, and this was how in the West, Lennon was seen as a German agent for such a long time
Starting point is 02:47:55 for this, for that very reason. During the auditions held in 1919 in the American Senate and quoted above, the Dr. A. Simons, who from 1907 to 1918, had been the dean of the Methodist Episcopal Church of Etragrad, made an interesting remark. Quote, While they did not mince their words to criticize the allies, Lenin, Trotsky, and their followers never expressed, at least I have never heard the slightest blame on Germany. And at the same time, when I spoke with official representatives of the Soviet government,
Starting point is 02:48:28 I discovered that they had a desire to preserve friendly relations with America as far as possible. This desire was interpreted by the Allied chancellaries as an attempt to detach America from its partners. Moreover, if the Soviet regime collapsed, they expected our country, the United States, to serve as a refuge for the Bolshevik demons who could thus save their skin, end quote. The calculation is plausible. Is it not even certain? It may be supposed that Trotsky himself, strengthened by his recent experience in America, comforted his companions with this hope.
Starting point is 02:49:05 But where the calculation of the Bolshevik leaders was more ambitious and well-founded, it was when it dealt with the use of the great, it was when, it was when it dealt with the use of the great American financiers. Trotsky himself was an incontestable internationalist and one can believe him when he declares emphatically that he rejects for himself all belonging to Jewishness. But judging by the choices he made in his appointments, we see that the renegade Jews were closer to him than the renegade Russians. His two closest assistants were Glasman and Sirmooks, the head of his personal guard, Dreitzer. Thus, when it became necessary to find an authoritative and ruthless
Starting point is 02:49:46 substitute to occupy the post-war, the post-at-the-war commissariat, Judge of the Lack, Trotsky named without flinching Ephraim Skalanski, a doctor who had nothing of a soldier or a commissar, and the Sklatsky, as vice-president of the Revolutionary Council of War would add his signature above to one of the Supreme Commander, the General S.S. Kaminoff. You know, Jews say this all the time. We talked about it with Shinebaum, despite the fact that so many of her political allies and financiers were Jews, you know, because there's so many in Mexico.
Starting point is 02:50:27 And you're starting to see the very beginning of the neocon movement once they turned on the Soviet Union when they went to that, you know, very country and then it came to America. So while the Bolsheviks were still heavily Jewish, almost everybody that Trotsky promoted within his circle was a Jew. So clearly he thought that way. He was an internationalist. He was no Zionist. Put it that way.
Starting point is 02:50:55 And the Soviet Union was an enemy of Zionism, except under Stalin. That changed later on. You know, the USSR created Israel, first of all that they switched play U.S.S.S.R. switch places later, but by saying that, yeah, it's true, but he's just no Zionist. The Jewish question still was a huge issue for him. And, but I think that just means that he wasn't a Zionist. He surrounded himself pretty much 100% with Jews at the top, any of the medium. levels. Trotsky did not think for a moment of the impression that the appointment of a doctor
Starting point is 02:51:40 or the extraordinary promotion of a Sklyansky would make on the non-commissioned members. He could not care less. And yet, it was he who had declared, quote, Russia has not reached a maturity necessary to tolerate a Jew at its head, end quote. This famous sentence shows that the question concerned him all the same when it was formulated about him. yeah so so political maturity is defined as um the ability to accept jews running your country and i know i've heard this before but all right anyway well they're so successful uh yeah they're smarter than us yeah there was also this well-known scene the inaugural session
Starting point is 02:52:24 of the constituent assembly is opened on january 5th 1918 by the dean of deputies sp s p chesstov but Sverdlov, with utter imprudence, snatches the bell from him, chases him from the tribune, and resumes the meeting. This constituent assembly so long awaited, so ardently desired, that sacred son that was about to pour happiness onto Russia, it only takes a few hours for Svredloff and the sailor,
Starting point is 02:52:52 Jelaznyakov, to wring its neck. The Pan-Russian Commission for the election of the Constituent Assembly had previously been dissolved, and its organization had been entrusted to a private person, the young Brodsky. As for the assembly, so ardently desired, its management was handled by Yuritsky, who was assisted by Drobkin, who was set up to be new chancellery. It was thus, by this kind of operation, that the new type of Jewish government was sketched. Other preliminary actions, eminent members of the constituent assembly, personalities known to the whole of Russia, such as the Countess Panina an immense benefactress were arrested by an obscure personage, a certain Gordon,
Starting point is 02:53:38 according to the newspaper Den the day. Gordon was the author of some wicked patriotic articles that appeared in the Courier of Petrograd, then went on to trade in cabbage and chemical fertilizers before finally becoming Bolshevik. Now that's more normal than you would think. It's like, you know, a jewelry merchant being a member of the Communist Party, you know, it doesn't make sense, but of course it does when we're talking about this as a Jewish movement. The constituent assembly was something prior to the Bolshevik takeover, which only leftist parties could run for office. Turnout was like 20%. No one cared. Of course, only leftists were elected. It wasn't taken seriously.
Starting point is 02:54:28 either is either abolished, sometimes it's hard to tell even in Soviet history, whether they abolish it or they just change his name. But then, at this point, now we're talking about a few months after, I mean, the Civil War is raging, but the, a few months after October, now it's just being stuffed with Jews. And I'm assuming that every last one was a Bolshevik or at least someone very close to it. Another thing not to be forgotten, the new masters of the country did not neglect their personal interest. In other words, they plundered honest people. Stolen money is usually converted into diamonds. In Moscow, Skljanski is said to be the first diamond buyer. He was caught in Lithuania during the baggage verification of Zinoviev's wife,
Starting point is 02:55:15 Zlada Bernstein-Lilina, jewelry was found, worth several tens of millions of rubles. And to say that we believed in the legend that the first revolutionary leaders were disinterested idealists? in the checka a trustworthy witness tells us himself having passed it passed in its clutches in 1920 the chiefs of the prisons were usually Poles or Latvians while the section in charge of the fight against traffickers the least dangerous and the most lucrative was in the hands of the Jews and this is why you know you start reading things like this over years and then you come to the conclusion that very few academics have come to that is that the Bolsheviks had nothing to do with labor.
Starting point is 02:56:01 Communism had nothing to do with labor. They used those words in a very eccentric way, very idiosyncratic way, but that's not who they're really talking about. You know, the way that words like proletarian and bourgeois were completely twisted and redefined in Russia, both under Lenin and Stalin is almost funny if it wasn't didn't lead to so many deaths because you had billionaires being called proletarian so long as they supported the party but I think I said this before but you know when Lenin was was killed that he had two one in Switzerland one I think in New York he had two
Starting point is 02:56:44 bank accounts he would have been a billionaire in today's money and I think that's the case for all these other people the whole point of the revolution from the Jewish Jewish point of view was to create a planned economy which means that you own everything
Starting point is 02:57:05 you can't plan the whole economy unless you own it you have to have control over it those two things have to go together and then and of course just like any mafia organization you skim from the top other than the positions at the front the stage. There existed in the structure of Lenin's power, as in any other conspiracy,
Starting point is 02:57:25 silent and invisible figures destined to never write their names in any chronicle. From Genetsky, that adventurer Lenin liked, up to all the disturbing figures gravitating in the orbit of Parvus. The Eugenia Sumenson, for example, who surfaced for a short time during the summer of 1917, who was even arrested for financial manipulation with Germany and who remained in liaison with the Bolshevik leaders, although she never appeared on the list of leaders of the apparatus. After the days of July, Raskiavolya published raw documents on the clandestine activity of Parvus and his closest collaborator, Zorobov, who occupies today in the social democratic circles
Starting point is 02:58:06 of Petrograd, a well-placed position. We're also found in Petrograd, Mr. Binstock, Levin, Perazich, and a few others. Well, Parv was He was a major liaison between major Western banks and the Communist Party. He, among others, but he was in a very important person in making deals and signing contracts
Starting point is 02:58:34 as to how the money from the West is going to come in. He was very important in the transference of money from Schiff and all these other people. Or also Samuel Zayor. Acts, the brother-in-law of Zinovyev, his sister's husband, the boss of the subsidiary of the Parvus Pharmacy in Petrograd, and the son of a wealthy maker of the city who had given the Bolsheviks in 1917 a whole printing house. Or belonging to Parvist team itself, Samuel Picker, Alexander Martinov, whom had formerly polemicized Lenin on theoretical questions, but now the
Starting point is 02:59:07 time had come to serve the party, and Martinoff had gone into hiding. Let us mention some other striking figures. The most illustrious for massacres in Crimea, Rosalia Zalkin Zamlachka, a real fury of terror. She was in 1917 to 1920, long before Kaganovich, Secretary of the Committee of the Bolsheviks of Moscow, along with Visigorsky, I Zelensky, and I. Piatnitsky. When no one, when one knows that the Jews constituted more than a third of the population of Odessa. It is not surprising to learn that in the revolutionary institutions of Odessa, there was a great number of Jews.
Starting point is 02:59:52 The president of the Revolutionary War Council and later of Zvnarcombe of Odessa was V. Yudovsky, the chairman of the provincial party committee, the gomarnik. The latter would soon rise in Kiev to be chairman, or is that Kiev? I've been told it's Kiev, although I've never had chicken kev, so. Yeah, I always say Kiev. Yeah, let me start that again. The latter would soon rise in Kiev to be chairman of the provincial committees, revolutionary committee, party executive committee, then chairman of the regional committees.
Starting point is 03:00:27 And finally, secretary of the Central Committee of Belarus, member of the military region revolutionary war council of Belarus. And what about the rising star, Lezar Kaganovich, the president of the provincial committee party of Niji Novgorod in 1918. In August September, the reports of mass terror operations in the province all begin with the words in the presence of Kavanovich, Kaganovich being present, and with what villages? There is a photo which was inadvertently published and which bears this caption, quote, photograph of the prosidium of one of the meetings of the Leningrad Committee, that is, to say, of the Petrograd Soviet after the October Revolution.
Starting point is 03:01:09 the absolute majority at the Presidian table is constituted of Jews. I think I have to keep repeating as we're going through this, that the Bolsheviks knew, as their nature and policies were becoming better known, especially in the rural areas, they had to figure out ways to smash any knowledge of who they are or what they're doing. Total press control, total economic control, the anti-Semitism law, and they didn't really have to be Jews
Starting point is 03:01:46 if anyone did this kind of thing to their country they'd be unpopular but the fact that they're a hostile minority that in the past many years ago I'd been treated well and had done very well financially which shows you that there's a revolutionary core to them as you Michael Jones talks about quite often
Starting point is 03:02:07 they had to start really worrying about more than anything else, the punitive institutions. They had to smash really any knowledge or understanding about who's running this and why. Reviewing all the names of those who have held important positions and often even key positions is beyond the reach of anyone. We will cite for illustrative purposes, illustrative purposes, a few names, trying to attach them with a few details.
Starting point is 03:02:36 Here is Arkady Rosengoltz. Among the actors of the October coup in Moscow, he was afterwards a member of the Revolutionary War Councils of several Army Corps, then of the Republic. He was Trotsky's closest assistant. He then occupied a number of important posts, the Commissariat of Finance, the Workers and Peasants Inspectorate, an organ of inquisition, and finally the commissariat for foreign trade for seven years. Semyon Nakimson, who on the eve of October, was commissioner of the notorious Latvian skirmishers, was the fierce commissioner of the military region of Yaroslav. He was killed during an insurrection in the city. Aw. Samuel Zwilling, who, after his victory over the Orenberg Ottoman, Dutov, took the head of the Orenberg District Executive Committee. He was killed shortly thereafter.
Starting point is 03:03:29 I'm picking up a trend here. Zorick Greeneberg, Commissioner for Instruction and Fine Arts of the Northern Commune, who took a stand against the teaching of Hebrew, the right arm of Lunasharski. Here in Yevgenia Kogan, wife of Kibishev, she was already in 1917, secretary of the party committee of the region of Samara. In 1918 through 19, she became a member of the Volga Military Revolutionary Tribunal. In 1920, she met at the Tashkent City Committee, then in 1920 in Moscow, where she became Secretary of the City Committee and then Secretary of the National Committee in the 1930s.
Starting point is 03:04:11 And here is the Secretary of Kuyveshev, Semyon Zhokovsky. He goes from political sessions to political sections of the Army. He is sometimes found in the Propaganda Department of the Central Committee of Turkestan, sometimes a political leader of the Baltic fleet for the Bolsheviks, everything is at hand, and finally at the Central Committee. Or there are the Bailenki brothers, Abram at the head of the personal guard of Lenin during the last five years of his life, Gregory, who moved with the Krasnaya-Presnia district committee to the position of head of Adjaprop at the common turn.
Starting point is 03:04:52 Finally, he has found at the Higher Council of the National Economy, the Workers and Peasants and Spector at the Commissariat of Finances. Diemannstein, after passing through the European Commission and the European section, is at the Central Committee of Lithuanian Belarus, at the Commissariat of Instruction of Turkestan, then head of the political propaganda of Ukraine, or Samuel Filler, an apothecary apprentice from the province of Kersan, who hoisted himself up to the, up to the prosidium of the Checa of Moscow, and then of the RKI. Anatoly Isaac Coltun deserted and emigrated immediately after, then returned in 1917.
Starting point is 03:05:32 He is found both as a senior advisor in the Central Control Commission of the VKP and in charge of the party of Kazakhstan, then at Yoroslav, in Ivanovol, then back to the Control Commission, and then to Moscow court. And suddenly he is in scientific research. The role of the Jews is particularly visible in the R.SFSR organs responsible for what constitutes the crucial problem of those years, the years of war communism. Supplies. Let's just look at the key positions. Moise Frumpkin from 1918 to 1920, member of the College of the Commissariat of Supply of the RSFSR and from 1921 in full famine, deputy commissioner. He is also chairman of the board of trustees of the Food Fund, and he has and has an assistant, I. Raphaelov, Ayakov, Iakov Brandon Borgsky, Goldzinski, returning from Paris in 1917 and immediately becoming a member of the Petrograd Supply Committee and from 1918 onwards a member of the commissariat. During the Civil War, with extraordinary powers from the VTSIK for requisition
Starting point is 03:06:49 operations in several provinces, Isaac Zelensky in 1918 through 1920, in the supply section of the Moscow Soviet, then member of the College of the RSFSR supply commissariat, later in the Secretariat of the Central Committee and Secretary for Central Asia. Semyon Voskov arrived from America in 1917, actor of the October coup in Petrograd, in 1918, Commissioner of Supply for the immense region of the North, Miran Vladimir Scheinfel since October 17 is head of the supply service for the city of Petrograd, then member of the College of the Supply Commission of the RSFSR. In 1921, commissioner for supply of Ukraine, then for agriculture. Gregori Zussmanovich, commissioner in 1918 at the supply of the
Starting point is 03:07:41 army in Ukraine, Moisek Kalmanovich, late 1917, commissioner of the supply of the supply of the the Western Front, in 1919 through 1920, Commissioner of the Supply of the Bilo-Russian SSR, then on the Lithuanian Belarus SSR and chairman of a special commission for the supply of the Western Front at the summit of his career, President of the Administration Council of the Central Bank of the USSR. So what's the point of this very long paragraph? when I first started reading about this in college it struck me even before I really knew the Jewish question that took a few more years
Starting point is 03:08:24 that London was putting people in charge of things they had no right to be in charge of there were only so many Jews to go around but you had a collapsing economy because you had people who really didn't know had to organize a national economy had been put in charge of it. I did a whole, I have a paper published
Starting point is 03:08:48 and a lecture on the Kazakhstan issue which you mentioned here all Jewish party control. There was no Kazakh in it and it led to the destruction roughly of a third of the population. All they really
Starting point is 03:09:04 knew what to do is to steal it wasn't nailed down and shoot anyone who who said anything against it that's what all of this came none of these people had any experience in any of these areas this is one of the reasons
Starting point is 03:09:23 why Stalin ended up purging a lot of these people it certainly had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jews but his mentality was that okay this is okay for the early part of a revolution not for running a modern state because they did have no competence. Everything collapsed in the USSR. Every promise that Lenin made went nowhere.
Starting point is 03:09:49 He didn't deliver on anything. Ultimately, everything was based on the gun and Russians started noticing that they all tend to be Jews. And besides all that, that these are like mid-level positions too, and they're moving Jews from place to place, you know, one seemingly less competent than the other, again, because there's only so many Jews around.
Starting point is 03:10:15 It was almost a sign of loyalty. This is why things went so badly. It was based on force. Plus the fact, they didn't have to worry all that much because they were getting financial assistance from the West. They were getting food assistance from the Wilson administration. This is why they could afford. to go after the peasantry early on, which they did.
Starting point is 03:10:38 Because they're, you know, you had famines everywhere now. Because, you know, they couldn't separate actual, you know, they're supposed to be businessmen, but they couldn't separate their hatred of the goium from actually running these things. And so they simply stole the so-called requisition army, stole whatever, what wasn't, whatever they could from the farmers, from the barns, anything they could. and so no one wants to you know they'll plant for themselves but that's it and but and that's why starting now you had tremendous investment from western europe and the united states
Starting point is 03:11:16 they had none of these guys were capable of building any kind of an economy let alone an industrial one and yet over the next 20 years 25 years you had a building of an industrial economy that all came from Western investment. But that doesn't make any sense. The West is supposed to be anti-communist, right? So that means the entire history has to be rewritten. It's proof that Marxism is wrong because there's no way that this could happen.
Starting point is 03:11:46 Although Marx was financed by Rothschild sources and stuff like that, they absolutely were dependent on foreign sources of capital and competence for a long time. same thing for Stalin's purge of the army Some of these guys It's okay for a guerrilla campaign You know fighting the whites But fighting the Germans That's we need a professional corps
Starting point is 03:12:12 And so he retired a lot of these people They were good years ago But they're not none of them Trotsky didn't have any military training He's head of the Red Army That set the tone for everything else That comes under him and everything was done either through Western aid or just simply by violence
Starting point is 03:12:32 and this is one of the big reasons the whites lost the whites were not capable of this kind of thing and even the Red Army was being financed by the West at least in part at least before the war ended I should say initially you know possibly to get Russia back into the into the war which wasn't going to happen and afterwards to guard, you know, their investments. But it had nothing to do with, you know, all of these people could have been overthrown in 10 minutes,
Starting point is 03:13:04 as Lenin Entrotsky said, if the West wanted to. They could have very usually overthrown. You know, there was a handful of revolutionaries in a couple of cities. They had no basis in the population, no popularity, and yet they refused. And increasingly, people are starting to know this is what Bolshevism is. There's nothing to do with labor or equality or anything like that. This is what Bolshevism is.
Starting point is 03:13:34 And the West thought that was certainly better than a very strong, powerful Russia under a monarchy, who, of course, they despise from the beginning. So that's the complex answer to what's the point of all of us here. now of course you had Russians and Ukrainians and Latvians and other all over the world in various positions but the real powerful ones in economics and agriculture bizarrely enough and in policing went to went to Jews for very obvious reasons this was a Jewish movement so when Stalin purged them he wasn't anti-Jewish he was he was surrounded by Jews it was because
Starting point is 03:14:21 anyone who he would purge from this era would be a Jew it was a Jewish movement nothing changed under Stalin of course we'll talk about that here in a little bit but this group of people were not exactly competent to build any kind of an industrial economy the West will do that for him
Starting point is 03:14:44 which makes such a mockery of Leninism and Marxism recently published documents of the way in which the great present revolted 1921 in western Siberia broke out, the insurrection of Isham. After the fierce requisitions of 1920, when the region had, on January 1, 1921, fulfilled the required requisition plan by 102%. The supply commissioner of the Tumen province, Endenbaum, instituted an additional week to finalize it, the first to the 7th of January, the week before.
Starting point is 03:15:18 Christmas. The commissioner of requisitions at Isham received, add to the others, the official direction, quote, requisitions must be carried out without taking into account the consequences confiscating, if necessary, all the grain in the villages, and leaving the producer only a ration of famine, end quote. In a telegram signed by his hand, Indianbaum demanded, quote, the most merciless repression and systematic confiscation of the wheat that might still be there, end quote. In order to form the brigades of requisition were recruited not from the consent of Ingembam, thugs, and subproletarians who had no scruples in bludgeoning the peasants. The Latvia and Matvey Loras, a member of the provincial commissariat of supply,
Starting point is 03:16:07 used his power for his personal enrichment and pleasure, having taken up his quarters in a village. he had 31 women brought in for himself in his squad. At the 10th Congress of the RKP, the delegation of two men reported that, quote, the peasants who refused to give their wheat were placed in pits, watered, and died frozen. And this is proof that Lenin and Stalin were the same, ideologically speaking.
Starting point is 03:16:33 The only difference is that Stalin had a much more firm grasp on power and a much larger bureaucracy. and better technology to work with. You know, the Soviet Union had been established for a while by the 1930s. Nothing's changed. This is they tried to do exactly what he did. All the Jews know how to do with agriculture is either to steal or to shoot, not plant. The same people who refuse to be farmers are now being placed in charge of agriculture policy.
Starting point is 03:17:10 It's, and I'm sure he's not alone in. in Matvei Lorth, he's not alone in this kind of corruption. All of them enrich themselves. Why wouldn't they? They hate these people. And they mentioned subproletarians. I should note, remember, the Reds emptied the prisons. Wherever they went, the mental institutions.
Starting point is 03:17:33 And that's the so-called Lupin proletariat, the poor of the poor, people who had no chance. And they were very easy to convince. to do some of their nasty work for them, too. And that went right into the Stalin era. Unfortunately, you know, Tsarist Russia had to create a prison system. It took a long time. But when the Reds took over, they emptied it. And so did the French Revolutionaries, actually, too.
Starting point is 03:18:03 And so you already had an army of criminals at their disposal. But again, there's only somewhat you could do with people like that. You had plenty of mental institutions. You know, Chekhov writes about them in the late 19th, 30th, 20th century, but they were emptied. And that suited them just fine. So requisitions, that's simply either stealing or shooting. That's all they knew how to do. That's all the Bolsheviks wanted.
Starting point is 03:18:35 And so why are they going to plant in the future then? Especially if they're getting aid from the U.S. and from Germany. which they were in huge amounts they would talk about the famine that was that was imposed on us because of drought or something like that even though they're doing this kind of thing that brought the famine about in the first place the existence of some individuals was only learned a few years later thanks to obituaries published in the isvestia thus comrade isaic Samolevich Kiselsstein died of tuberculosis. He had been an agent of the Czechic College, then a member of the Revolutionary War Council
Starting point is 03:19:16 of the 5th and 14th armies, always devoted to the party and the working class. And oh, how many of those obscure workers of all nationalities were found among the stragglers of Russia. Bolshevik Jews often had, in addition to their surname as underground revolutionary pseudonyms or modified surnames. Example, in an obituary in 1928, the death of a Bolshevik of the first hour, Lev Mikhailovich Mikhailov, who was known to the party as Politicus. In other words, by a nickname, his real name, Ellinson, he carried it to the grave.
Starting point is 03:19:52 What prompted an Aaron Ruplovich to take the Ukrainian surname Territut? Was Aronovic Tarkas ashamed of his name, or did he want to gain more weight by taking the name of Pietnitsky. And what about the Goncharovs, Valisenko, and others? Were they considered their own families as traitors or simply as cowards? Well, we've answered this already a few weeks ago. The Reds, even at this point, were very concerned with their image abroad. and especially the creation of a negative image of the whites.
Starting point is 03:20:37 They can't have everybody in their government have a Jewish name. And that's the main reason they took pseudonyms. You wouldn't take a pseudonyms after the revolution, if you're just trying to hide something, but they all did, even afterwards. They were trying to hide the Jewish nature of this movement. movement, taking, you know, very Russian names like Mikhailov. Observations made on the spot have remained.
Starting point is 03:21:06 I.F. Najeevan records the impressions he received at the very beginning of Soviet power in the Kremlin, in the administration of the Savnarkum, reigns, disorder, and chaos. We see only Latvians and even more Latvians, Jews and even more Jews. I have never been an anti-Semite, but there was so many it could not escape your attention. and each one was younger than the last. Yeah, they created many anti-Semites here. And Latvians, they used some from Central Asia. London was promising them independence, or at least autonomy.
Starting point is 03:21:41 The whites refused to do that. And so they sided with the Reds, not realizing what was in store for them. So that's why you get a lot of those on the fringes of the old Russian Empire supporting the Bolsheviks. One thing you don't have is actual rights. Russians. Seems to me that what creates quote-unquote anti-Semites is somebody noticing that something that is harming people is overrepresented by Jews and then asking why. And then you get attacked for being an anti-Semite because we're a successful and wealthy people and you're just jealous. Yeah, you don't get an answer. So now you start wondering. Then you start seeing people get arrested for that
Starting point is 03:22:30 in this era in the EU, certainly, you know, over the next few years in the USSR, because most people are going to be asking that. Damn, they're Jews everywhere. Sultan Ethan mentions it. And the regime condemns him in their reviews of Gulag Archipelago. He mentions, you know, people start noticing, geez, all of the police services have these Jewish. names at their heads, not even at their heads, everywhere. You know, pattern recognition became illegal in the USSR, under Lenin and Stalin, and Khrushchev even. So even if you weren't an anti-Semite before, that was somebody being forced on you now.
Starting point is 03:23:20 Yeah. Corlenko himself, as liberal and extremely tolerant as he was, was, he who was deeply sympathetic to the Jews who had been victims of the pogroms, noted in his notebooks in the spring of 1919, quote, among the Bolsheviks, there are a great number of Jews, men and women, their lack of tact, their assurance are striking and irritating, end quote. Quote, Bolshevism has already exhausted itself in Ukraine, the commune encounters only hatred on its way. Once he has constantly emerged among the Bolsheviks, and especially the Czechos, physiognomies, and that exacerbates the traditional feeling still very virulent of
Starting point is 03:24:01 judaophobia. From the early years of Soviet life, the Jews were not only superior in number in the upper echelons of the party, but also more remarkably and more sensitively for the population to local administrations, provinces, and townships, to inferior spheres, where the anonymous mass of the strike breaker had come to the rescue of the new, and still fragile power, which had consolidated it, saved it. The author of the book of the, the author of the book of the Jews of Russia writes, quote, one cannot fail to evoke the action of the many Jewish Bolsheviks who worked in the localities in subordinate agents of the dictatorship and who caused innumerable ills to the
Starting point is 03:24:43 population of the country. And he adds, including the Jewish population. Well, that's nonsense. You know, they have still be victims. he still needs to consider them as victims when someone especially in places like Ukraine someone came across a Jew
Starting point is 03:25:02 it was assumed that they were on the far left Bolshevik and maybe even a part of the government they usually were right there was no getting out of it and that's why these laws are passed starting from right now
Starting point is 03:25:17 in this era all the way up to today in the EU to keep people from talking about it. The omnipresence of the Jews alongside the Bolsheviks had during these terrible days and months, the most atrocious consequences. Among them is the assassination of the imperial family of which, today, everybody speaks, and where the Russians now exaggerate the share of the Jews who find it in this heart-wrenching thought and evil enjoyment. As it should, the most dynamic Jews, and they are many, were at the height of events and often at the command posts, thus for the assassination of the Tsar's family, the guards were Latvians, Russians, and Magyars, but two characters played a decisive role.
Starting point is 03:25:58 Philip Golesh, you're going to be able to pronounce this better than I can, and Yakov Yorovsky, who had received baptism. Why don't we end here? Okay. Because now he's going to get into a substantial section on the nature of the ritual murder of the royal family. Okay. So this is actually a great place. I just pronounced it a Goloshkin who was by the way
Starting point is 03:26:26 the guy who was put in charge of Kazakhstan who committed genocide there and his successor also a Jew by the way so this is a pretty substantial break because the murder of the the Tsar convinced a lot of people
Starting point is 03:26:46 you know what these people really were it wasn't just a murder it was torture, it was sexual assault there were guards there who couldn't watch especially the young girls and no, Anastasia didn't escape unfortunately she was probably raped
Starting point is 03:27:03 like the rest of them were and yes it was a very Jewish concern and I have a book out on the topic and maybe before Saturday I'd like to review it just a refresh my memory so we can go over some of this stuff and I could I could add more more detail that sounds
Starting point is 03:27:26 great that'd be great I'm sure everybody would appreciate the info um yeah so we will come back with this uh that's rather disturbing I I know people who won't talk about this in public because they they like have figured out the stuff that was written on the walls they think they figured out the stuff that was written on the walls and they're scared to talk about it in public And yet Putin had legislative commissions concerning this issue. And the information that was revealed there was extraordinary. They were not pleased. The Jews were not pleased with him for that.
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Starting point is 03:28:35 part 65 of our reading of 200 years together by alexander solzhenison dr johnson how are you today i'm i'm doing okay um i am very close to finally releasing my book on the Ukraine War. I have, you know, the biggest pain was switching all the hot links to actual hard copy, in my case, footnotes, which I didn't want to do. It was such a pain to do it, but I did it. And that's completed. I did the acknowledgments. I just had to go one run through the whole thing, and then it's published.
Starting point is 03:29:15 And I will let everyone know when that happens. and I have no doubt you'll have a link to it but it's going to be very unique How many pages? Well, it's 130 pages in normal like eight and a half by 11 you know normal sheets
Starting point is 03:29:36 So how do you squeeze that down to seven by nine Or whatever it is It'll be so whatever that'll be Plus a lot of spaces that I don't have And the other ones so It should be somewhat substantial. But the only thing I have to do is go through it and, you know, one more time. And I use footnotes, so I don't have a bibliography, both explanatory and for citations.
Starting point is 03:30:05 I tried to minimize them as much as possible. I don't like it when articles are, you know, you have the references are longer than the actual article. that's been a trend recently. I don't like that. If you don't believe me, you know, go look it up. So I will let everyone know when that's done. And I'm hoping that's,
Starting point is 03:30:28 you know, I want to strike while the iron is hot. I'm assuming that it's more or less over, more or less. So, more or less over. You know, as far as I can see, I don't take anything that's going on right now seriously.
Starting point is 03:30:45 Ukraine has nothing left to fight with. So this is a time to release it finally. All righty. Well, we all look forward to it. There's another book out there that's exhaustive on, you know, what caused Ukraine and how they led up to it. And it's like 700 pages. So I know you're going to come at it from a different,
Starting point is 03:31:08 you'll have a different angle, too. Because, I mean, that book is good. I read that book before it even came out. but this you'll have a you'll have a much different angle on it so I encourage everybody to read it yeah to say the least yeah all right here we go the final decision belonged to lenin if he dared to decide in favor of the assassination when his power was still fragile it was because he had foreseen both the total indifference of the allies the king of england cousin of the czar had he not already in the spring of 1918 refused asylum to Nicholas II and the fatal weakness of
Starting point is 03:31:47 the conservative strata of the Russian people. Yeah, we should stop right there. King of England, cousin of the czar, didn't care. Refused asylum to Nicholas II. That tells you all you want to know about who was running Britain and why. They allegedly were on the same side of World War I. which shows you how absurd that was. Total indifference of all the allies. The weakness of the conservative strata of the Russian people, that's another one. The left had, even though they were tiny in numbers, they had our people there coming and going.
Starting point is 03:32:31 It's disgusting to read about it. Goloshecken, who had been exiled to Tobolsk in 1912 for four years, and who in 1917 was and the Urales, was in perfect agreement with Sferdlov. There are telephone conversations between Yacaterinburg and Moscow revealed that 1818, they were on first-name basis. As early as 1912, following the example of Svardlov, Goleshchen was a member of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party. After the coup of October, he became Secretary of the Provincial Committee of Perm and
Starting point is 03:33:07 Yakaterinburg, and later of the Ural Region Committee, In other words, he had become the absolute master of the region. The project of assassination of the imperial family was ripening in the brains of Lenin and his acolytes, while, on the other hand, the two patrons of the Ural's, Golashikin and Bila Bila Boreadov, president of the Ural Soviet, simmered their own machinations. It is now known that at the beginning of July 1918, Golashikin, went to Moscow in order to convince Lenin that letting the Tsar and his family flee was a bad solution, that they had to be openly executed and then announced the matter publicly. Convincing Lenin that the Tsar and his family should be
Starting point is 03:33:51 suppressed was not necessary. He himself did not doubt it for a moment. What he feared was the reaction of the Russian people in the West. There were, however, already indications that the thing would pass without making waves. The decision would also depend on. The decision would also depend on of course, on Trotsky, Kamenev, Zivonyev, Ukharin, but they were for the time absent from Moscow and their mentality, with the possible exception possibly of that of Kaminov, allowed to suppose none of them would have anything to say about it. Trotsky, as we know, approved of this without feeling any emotion. In his diary of 1935, he says that on his arrival in Moscow, he had a conversation with Svredlov. I asked incidentally, by the way, where is a czar?
Starting point is 03:34:39 It's done, he replied. Executed. And the family? The family is well, with him. All of them. I asked with a touch of astonishment. All of them, replied Swerdloff. So what? He was waiting for a reaction from me. I did not answer anything. And who decided it? I asked. All of us here. I did not ask any more questions. I forgot about it. Basically, this decision was more than reasonable. It was necessary. Not merely in order to frighten, to scare the enemy, to tell. to make him lose all hope, but in order to electrify our own ranks and to make us understand that there was no turning back, that we had before us only an undivided victory or certain death. It's funny that they were worried about the Western reaction. The West was with them all the way and financing part of this. This was a Jewish concern from top to bottom. London was not really in the picture. I think what Trotsky says here is true, as far as it goes.
Starting point is 03:35:46 It's not the Apatio House. Actually, that was a name given to it. Its owner actually was a gold merchant, a Jewish man, going back some time. And this was more than just electrifying their ranks. this was the last Roman emperor this was everything that the Jews hated brought together into one person
Starting point is 03:36:15 and they hated even worse that he was popular it's really hard you know and they knew they were unpopular anyway the Bolsheviks did and so it really didn't matter if they did one more unpopular thing
Starting point is 03:36:29 it was considered an outrage that they did this to a great man, to a humble man, a man who very humbly took this, but the scrollings on the, on the wall, and there are photos of it strongly suggests this, that this is the death of the Persian king. And, you know, that's, again, code for, for, you know, the absolute empire of the Roman,
Starting point is 03:37:06 you know, from the Old Testament they're talking about, really, Balsasar. And a few other symbols I talk about in my book, which I did not research again. I apologize for that. I forgot all about it. And a few other things. This was a deeply symbolic, ritualistic action. Rome is finally destroyed. Rome was the very opposite of Judaism. Everything that Judaism is, Rome
Starting point is 03:37:35 opposes. Rome as a concept, not a place. Rome as a political concept. The land versus the sea power. Land power versus the sea power, you know, the land power versus the merchants. Strong local nationalism versus the wandering Jew. This was everything. And so, and they were just killed. they were tortured to death because they were shot initially but they didn't all die
Starting point is 03:38:04 there's no doubt in my mind that the women were sexually assaulted many times when they were brought to the basement I would take a lot of evidence to convince me otherwise there is some evidence for that
Starting point is 03:38:21 even in their own writings so it wasn't just, they weren't just going to shoot them. In their minds, this is all the problems that the Jews had to face in one family, really in one person. All the nonsense about the pogroms
Starting point is 03:38:41 and the alleged torture of the Jews, all of which was garbage. They all believed came from the monarchy, or even the Roman idea in general. And he was canonized decades later by the Russian Orthodox Church in exile
Starting point is 03:39:02 and then by the Moscow Patriarchate a bit later than that and he's very popular saint I have several icons of him in here so it was a ritual only in the sense that it was a destruction of Rome there was no restrainer as Paul says St. Paul says in the Bible
Starting point is 03:39:25 there's no restrainer of evil anymore. And our world, the exception possibly of Third Reich, and even that had its own problems, has been on this downward slide ever since then. I mean, the Spanish flu came out right around this time, slaughtered a huge number of people. World War II was not too far off. and, you know, there was no strategic need for this.
Starting point is 03:40:00 I've heard all of those explanations. Now, it had more to do with the Judaic rage and neuroticism than anything else. It is true that if he had escaped, he could have created a government in exile, I don't know. but the British certainly weren't going to help him and I still you know there were cousins
Starting point is 03:40:26 they knew each other a long time you know the whole family actually was related to the British royals and the German royals too and nothing and it's such an outrage that they
Starting point is 03:40:45 but you know this is this is how we know they supported the Reds from the beginning. The Reds, and this is why, you know, Lloyd George said things like Trotsky is the only real statesman in Russia. So this murder strategically, was it strategically, that was a secondary concern. This had more to do with what the Bolshek revolution really was. It was a Jewish erasure of Rome. M. Heifitz sought out who was able to attend the last council chaired by Lenin, without a doubt. Svardloff, Dejirinsky, probably Petrovsky, and
Starting point is 03:41:27 Vladimirski of the Cheka, Stuchka of the Commissariat for Justice, perhaps V. Schmidt. Such was the tribunal that condemned the Tsar. As for Goloshaiken, he had returned to Yakaterinburg on July 12th, awaiting the last signal sent from Moscow. It was Sferdlov who transmitted Lenin's last instruction, and Yakov Uruvsky, a watchmaker, the son of a criminal who had been deported to Siberia, where was born the offspring, had been placed in July 19 at the head of Ipatiev House. This Yorovsky was maneuvering the operation and reflecting on the concrete means of carrying it out with the help of Magyars and Russians, including Pavl Medvedev and Piotr-Urmikov, as well as the best way of making the bodies disappear.
Starting point is 03:42:21 Let us point out here the assistance provided by P.L. Voikov, the regional supply commissioner who supplied barrels of gasoline and sulfuric acid to destroy the corpses. How the deadly salvos succeeded each other in the basement of the Apatyev house, which of these shots were mortal, who were the shooters, nobody later could specify, not even the executives. Afterwards, Yorovsky boasted of being the best. It was the bullet from my cult that killed Nicholas, but this honor
Starting point is 03:42:50 also fell to Irmikov and his comrade Mouser. So these Jews are arguing, you know, who did it? It was such a badge of honor for them. Again, Lenin was a secondary figure here. Trotsky was far more important at this
Starting point is 03:43:08 point. Now, whether or not the murder electrified their ranks, I'm not sure. Because you had leftists who thought this wasn't a great idea. They weren't necessarily in the Red Army, though. It put a lot of people off. But they didn't care how anyone really thought of them in this regard. They knew that they were unpopular, but they also had to worry about money from the West,
Starting point is 03:43:35 which they were receiving, and they realized from the British example that it didn't matter. no one was going to care it's like after world war two Salon's worried that the West is going to be upset if they take if he takes Hungary and Poland and no
Starting point is 03:43:50 no they weren't and they didn't care the war started over allegedly started over Poland and Salon took it and the West you know they didn't have a problem with it forgave all of Soviet debts from Lenleys and the rest of it they
Starting point is 03:44:06 they think that the they have to create this world where the west of their enemies, and at least as far as the elites are concerned, it's not the case. And after the emigration, the end of the Civil War,
Starting point is 03:44:25 to America, America's departure, some, to nationalist China, that then ended up in either Australia or California. They then, you know, started writing about this more and more, and started realizing, what the Bolshev revolution was, and whose or Nicholas was. And so he canonized, you know, he sacrificed himself for, in a way, for the sins of the nobility,
Starting point is 03:44:52 who allowed this to happen for the sins of the, I mean, Christ, of course, is the only one who, you know, sacrifices himself in that regard, but in a symbolic way, he was the sacrifice of, for all of these corrupt people who allowed all this to happen, including the churchmen, who supported, it was the majority of them of the bishops who supported the February Revolution leading to this. I guess they just took it for granted and they didn't realize how bad it was until it was gone. Goloshaiken did not seek glory, and it is this idiot of Biela Borodov who beat him. In the 1920s, everyone knew it was him, the Tsar's number one killer.
Starting point is 03:45:35 In 1936, during a tour of Rostof Andon, during a tour of Rostovand, during a party conference, he still boasted of it from the Rostrum, just a year before being himself executed. In 1941, it was Goloshaikin's turn to be executed. As for Yorovsky, after the assassination of the Tsar, he joined Moscow, worked there for a year alongside D'Jurinsky, thus shedding blood, and died a natural death. In fact, the question of the ethnic origin of actors has constantly cast a shadow over the, over the revolution as a whole, and on each of its events. All the participants and complicities, since the assassination of Stolipin, necessarily collided with the feelings of the Russians.
Starting point is 03:46:21 Yes, but what about the assassination of the Tsar's brother, Grand Duke Mikhaila Alexandrovich, who were his assassins? Andrei Markov, Gavril Miosnikov, Nikov, Nikolai Zhukov, Ivan Kolpashikov, clearly, all of them Russians. Well, we could say the same about Rasputin. They were all, you know, Russian conservatives, quote unquote. And it was Rasputin who begged the Tsar to not go into World War I, predicting that he will never come out of it alive. His predictions tended to come true in a lot of things.
Starting point is 03:47:00 for the same reason that it was the Tsarist generals who forced him out forced the Tsar out in the first place all of them were Russians too this is pure self-interest but Mikhail Alexandrovich was not in power you know it's a very different story
Starting point is 03:47:26 and they kill him for a very different reason And same thing for Rasputin. These were allegedly the conservative Russians who hated the fact that Rasputin was pointing out the Masonic cult's penetration into the upper classes, including right into the court of Nicholas. So I get his point, but it's a very different story. Mikhail was not the Roman emperor.
Starting point is 03:47:55 here everyone must oh how much ask themselves a question have i enlightened my people with a little ray of good or have i obscured it with all the darkness of evil so that is so that is that when it comes to the executioners of the revolution and what about the victims hostages and prisoners by entire batches shot drowned uncrowded barges the officers russians the nobles mostly russians the priests russians members of the zemstvus russians and the peasants fleeing enlistment in the Red Army taken up in the forest, all Russians. And this Russian intelligency of high moral, anti-Semitic, for it also, it was bad deaths and bloody basements. If names and lists of all those who had been shot and drowned in the first years of Soviet power could be found today from September 1918 onwards, if statistics were available, it would be surprising to find that the revolution in no way manifested its international character, but indeed it's anti-Slavic character in accordance, moreover, with the dreams of Marx and Engels. And it is this that it... Not what he means by that, but he means by that specifically is that in a lot of his journalistic writings,
Starting point is 03:49:10 Karl Marx, I think I've mentioned this several times, Karl Marx hated the Slavs. In particular, he hated Russia. He didn't just hate the government. He hated Russians in general, because the Tsar's remains. very popular in his lifetime. And the Tsar was the restrainer against revolution. That was the last power. The Austria-Hungary was too fragile at that point to be the restrainer.
Starting point is 03:49:40 It was Russia alone that had the size and the ability. You know, we talked about how it was in 1848, 1849, it was Tsar Nicholas I, that put the Austrian emperor back on his throne. after the Hungarian revolt dethroned him in Vienna. They didn't get thanked for that. In fact, they made war on him after that, but point being is that Karl Marx knew
Starting point is 03:50:05 this, that there was something, in his words, animalistic about the Slavs. Their slaughter is no problem by him. He loved the Crimean War. All of a sudden, he's so pro-British patriotic, you know, when he was a journalist. And Engels 2 had the harshest and most vicious language against the Slavs in general, in Russians, in particular.
Starting point is 03:50:32 So mass slaughter was already built into this. Some people make the claim that Marxism was really for Western European countries. But there's a few problems with that. Russia was also industrializing very fast, far quicker than anyone else. And a takeover there would permit his dream to come true, the destruction, the genocide of the Russian population. This goes right back to Marx. And his Jewishness has something to do with it, no doubt.
Starting point is 03:51:12 But if you read his journalistic writings in this period, say from the Crimea on, he uses the harshest language, which, by the way, was fully acceptable in British society. in 1848. And it is this that has imprinted this deep and cruel mark on the face of the revolution, which defines it best. Who has it exterminated, carrying away its dead forever, without return? Far from this sordid revolution and this unfortunate country,
Starting point is 03:51:41 the body of this poor, misguided people. During all those months, Lenin was very much occupied with the climate of tension that had arisen around the Jewish question. As early as April 1818, the Council of the People's Commissars of Moscow in the Moscow region published in the Izvestia, thus for a wider audience than the region of Moscow alone, a circular address to the Soviets on the question of the anti-Semitic propaganda of the pogroms, which evoked events having occurred in the region of Moscow that recalled anti-Jewish pogroms. No city was named.
Starting point is 03:52:16 It stressed the need to organize special sessions among the Soviets on the Jewish question and the fight against anti-Semitism, as well as meetings and conferences, in short, a whole propaganda campaign. But who, by the way, was the number one culprit who had to have his hands, his bones broken? But the Orthodox priests, of course. The first point prescribed, pay the utmost attention to the anti-Semitic propaganda carried out by the clergy,
Starting point is 03:52:42 take the most radical measures to stop the counter-revolution and the propaganda of the priests. We did not ask ourselves at this moment what measures these were, but in reality, who knows them better than we do? Then point number two, recommend to recognize the necessity to not create a separate Jewish fighting organization at the time a Jewish guard was being considered. The point number four entrusted the Office of Jewish Affairs and the War Commissariat with the task of taking preventative measures to combat anti-Jewish pogroms. Yeah, these pogromes, of course, were complete inventions.
Starting point is 03:53:17 In Lennon's mind, and he says this over and over again in his writings of the time, and by the way, I did a lecture on this on Rado-Albion three weeks ago, on the origin of the anti-Semitic laws, anti-Semitic laws in the early Soviet Union, that to be anti-Jewish is to be anti-Soviet. He said this over and over again. If anyone had a problem with the Jews, by definition, he was a counter-revolutionary
Starting point is 03:53:49 which made no sense on its face because there were so many wealthy Jews who did very well before and after the revolution they controlled a huge amount of capitals we've shown in this book but that's not the bourgeoisie he's talking about they don't count and you imagine Jews still not trusting the fact
Starting point is 03:54:14 there were some Gentiles whether it be a handful of Russians or those from the Baltics, maybe those from the southern caucuses, etc. But that was too much for them. So they wanted to create their own ethnically pure fighting units. Even though Bolshevism was a Jewish movement in and of itself, even the handful that were there, that it still was too impure for them. Creating their own land of Bribzdan under Stalin. We'll talk about this later on. You have
Starting point is 03:54:45 their own homeland in an already Jewish-run USSR. It shows you the racial fanaticism that they had. But they had to keep inventing this. Now, a pogrom could be a clergyman who realized that this movement, that this had taken over the government, was Jewish. And uttering that fact, and you had bishop saying it, and you had priest saying it, you had monks saying it, you had those who fled the country saying it, that was a pogrom. As far as Lennon was concerned, there were no anti-Jewish pogroms at the time. But the white armies were well aware of who was controlling the, of who the Reds really were, and why they were being financed by the West.
Starting point is 03:55:34 At the height of the same year in 1918, Lenin recorded a gramophone, on gramophone, a special discourse on anti-Semitism in the Jews. He there denounced the cursed Tsarist autocracy, which had always launched uneducated workers and peasants against the Jews. The Tsarist police, assisted by landowners and capitalists, perpetrated anti-Jewish pogroms. Hostility towards the Jews is perennial, only where the capitalist cabal has definitely obscured the minds of the workers and the peasants. There are among the Jews workmen, men of labor. They are a majority. party. They are our brothers, oppressed as we are by capitalism. They are our comrades who struggle
Starting point is 03:56:17 with us for socialism. Shame on the Kersarism. Shame on those who sow hostility toward the Jews. Recordings of this speech were carried all the way to the front, transported through towns and villages aboard special propaganda trains which crisscrossed the country. Grammophones spread this discourse in clubs, meetings, assemblies. Soldiers, workers, and peasants listen to their leaders harangue and began to understand what this was all about. But this speech at the time was not published by intentional omission. It only was so in 1926 in the book of Agorski Senior. You wonder who his audience was.
Starting point is 03:57:00 Because I spent quite a bit of time in my paper and my talk on these laws. This was essentially the first decree on on combating anti-Semitism in the early Soviet Union. Who was he really talking to here? Did the average soldier give a damn? The average soldier didn't like Jews anymore than anyone else did. He saw them as wealthy, upper middle class people,
Starting point is 03:57:27 especially if they were from the western part of the empire. That wasn't going to electrify their side. That wasn't going to that wasn't going to I had no strategic value whatsoever the only thing it could be is to the Jews in the Western world to wealthy Jews
Starting point is 03:57:48 in Russia itself that we're this is about you you have nothing to worry about here doesn't matter how much money you have you're not really you're still a proletarian he knows damn well
Starting point is 03:58:05 that there weren't a whole lot of Jewish workmen Men of labor They claim to be in some cases But we've been through that already They weren't They lied about it The majority of Jews
Starting point is 03:58:16 He's trying to claim We're workers That is utter nonsense And we've gone through it In a great detail In our talks going back A couple of months now There's not a single true statement
Starting point is 03:58:30 In this or the other speeches and decrees that he made on the question. So this isn't for the average soldier. You know, totally get to roll their eyes at this. It's to show wealthy Jews that you are not the target here.
Starting point is 03:58:52 We claim to be for the workers and inequality and all this stuff, but you are not concluded among those who are going to despoil. That goes only for others. That's the only strategic purpose that this speech had and why he spread it everywhere and why everyone had to hear it. But he had a very specific audience in mind.
Starting point is 03:59:10 On July 27, 1918, just after the execution of the imperial family, the Sovnorcom promulgated a special law on anti-Semitism. The Soviet of the people's commissarsars declares that any anti-Semitic movement is a danger to the cause of the revolution of the workers and peasants. In conclusion, from Lenin's own hand, Lunasharski tells us, the Sonarkham directed all Soviet deputations to take radical measures to eradicate anti-Semitism. The insiders of pogroms, those who propagate them, will be declared outlaws, signed V.I. Wulianov, Lenin. If the meaning of the word outlaw may have escaped some at the time, in the months of the red terror, it would appear clearly. Ten years later, in a sentence of a communist militant, Lareen, who was himself,
Starting point is 04:00:02 for a while, the commissar, the people, and even the promoter of war communism to outlaw the active anti-Semites was to shoot them. In other words, outlaw was, it was taken literally. You're outside the law. You're not a citizen. You don't matter. You are an enemy. Your very existence makes you an enemy.
Starting point is 04:00:26 So killing them is not a problem. There's no due process. There's no nothing. you are you are literally outside of the law and again I talk about that too and I want to remind everybody and we'll actually Solzhenitsyn spends a lot of time on this a bit later
Starting point is 04:00:44 Stalin said the exact same kind of things Stalin was as philosemitic as you can get as far as his ideology was concerned Stalin made the same kind of comments use these same kind of slogans Stalin believed in a world revolution with a universal world language I don't know what that was going to be in his mind
Starting point is 04:01:06 but you know he has his reputation falsely as some sort of a weirdo national Bolshevik type and he was nothing of the kind he was identical to Lenin and Trotsky both in terms of ideology as well as methods
Starting point is 04:01:24 and then there is Lenin's famous reply to Demonstein in 1919. Demonstein wished to obtain from Lenin that he retained the distribution of Gorky's track containing such praises to the address of the Jews that it could create the impression that the revolution was based only on the Jews and especially on the individuals from the middle class. Lenin replied, as we have already said, that immediately after October, it was the Jews who had saved the revolution by defeating the resistance of the civil servants, and consequently, Gorky's opinion was perfectly correct.
Starting point is 04:02:00 The Jewish Encyclopedia does not doubt it either. Quoting, Lenin refused to sweep under the carpet the extremely pro-Semite proclamation of M. Gorky, and it was disseminated in great circulation during the Civil War, in spite of the fact that it risked becoming an asset in the hands of anti-Semites who were enemies of the revolution. And it became so, of course, for the whites who sought to. two images merge, that of Judaism and that of Bolshevism. The surprising, short-sighted indifference of the Bolshevik leaders to the popular sentiment
Starting point is 04:02:36 and the growing irritation of the population is blatant when we see how much Jews were involved in repression directed against the Orthodox clergy. It was in summer in 1918 that was initiated the assaults on the Orthodox churches in Central Russia and especially in the Moscow region, which included several provinces, an assault which only ceased thanks to the wave of rebellions in the parishes. You see, without the Jewish element, let's say that this had been a revolutionary group
Starting point is 04:03:05 that wanted, like the British roundheads or something like that, or the communist in the radical reformation. If it was a communist group of non-Jewish origin, there wouldn't have been, this attack on the church. They could have used the church. Bonasteries were already communal.
Starting point is 04:03:33 The peasant commune was the dominant form of social life in Russia. No, it was only the Jewish element that added this hatred for the church that they had to be slaughtered in huge numbers. I mean, this was the second largest church in the world behind the Roman church. and their clergy after, you know, Stalin was reduced to almost, almost to nothing. If it wasn't for their, you know, many clergy abroad, God knows what would have happened. Now, I've also read plenty of Western treatments of the Revolution, and let's say, you know, Western papers, British and American, and they don't talk about this very much. there's the occasional mention of it but even if they had reporters there
Starting point is 04:04:25 I don't know if they did or not they weren't going to talk about it there was no condemnation this was nothing but support and precisely this was some of the things that led the Western world to continue to support the Reds and I said this before but the Allies
Starting point is 04:04:42 went to the whites and said you know if you eliminate anti-Semites from your ranks and never talk about the Jews again, maybe, maybe we'll support you. Oh, you have to have an amnesty, you know, with, with the Reds. You have to give back all your prisoners and everything else. So in other words, they'd have an army of like seven people after that. So they said all these stupid things, you know, these conditions that they knew that they could never.
Starting point is 04:05:08 Oh, you had to pay all the debts of World War I and the Zaris debts. Well, the Zaris debts were very few, but all the war debts and everything. everything else. You had to be responsible for. Then maybe we'll change our minds. First of all, they wouldn't have changed their minds. And second of all, they knew that there was no way the whites could ever accept these conditions. That's the cynicism of the Western world. They had nothing but contempt for the White armies. In Western media treatments, the White armies were monarchists. They weren't all. A lot of them were, but they weren't all. But in the Western press, at least in the English-speaking ones that I know about,
Starting point is 04:05:52 the white armies were, you know, landlords and billionaires who wanted to reinstall the czar and go back to, you know, 1900. The truth of the matter is that there were very few landowners in the ranks of the officer corps, a handful. These were military men who came up that way. They didn't need, they had that income. They didn't need any other. Yes, they were orthodox for the most part. The Cossack certainly were. And the main, you know, the Dineken, Kuhnilov, these were not monarchists, really, at least at the higher levels.
Starting point is 04:06:38 They wanted a republic. And that drives me. They still saw themselves as fighting for the February Revolution against the October Revolution. They thought that Karinsky was the legitimate ruler, or at least that government was a legitimate government that they were fighting for. Now, there were plenty of white armies that were not and were royalists, but in the main, the dominant officer corps, these are the same people who, some of the, I'm not saying Danikin did this, but I think Alexiev had died at this point. You know, these were some of the people who forced the czar to abdicate or fake his abdication. so in the main it was not a monarchist movement
Starting point is 04:07:22 so everything they're saying here is just I'm not sure again who he's who he's appealing to but um but to this very day the propaganda remains these are all landowners well by the time the war started landowners were the peasantry well I guess they were consistent there
Starting point is 04:07:40 because they slaughtered the peasantry so I guess he really hated the landowners you know that's what a kulak was Salonism was not the first person, first group to use the word Kulak. That had been around for a while. These were lower middle class peasants or just anyone they didn't like. So the peasants were the landlords. So all of these propaganda words, these words that have numerous definitions,
Starting point is 04:08:09 these vague pronouncements, everything that these guys are saying is absolutely false from a factual level. In January 1918, the workers who were building the fortress of Kronstadt rebelled and protested. The executive committee of the party composed exclusively of non-natives, had designated for guard duty instead of militia, Orthodox priests, while not a Jewish rabbi, not a Muslim mullah, nor not a Catholic pastor, not a Protestant pastor, was put to use. Let us note in passing that even on this small fortified island of the prison of the peoples, there were places of worship for all the confessions. A text entitled, Charge on the Jews, appeared even all the way to the Pravda, a call from the workers of Arkangelsk to Russian workers and peasants conscious of their fate
Starting point is 04:09:05 in which they read are profane, defiled, plundered, exclusively Orthodox churches, never synagogues. Death by hunger and disease carries hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, among the Russians, while the Jews do not die of hunger or disease. There was also during the summer of 1918, a criminal case of anti-Semitism in the Church of Basel the Blissful in Moscow. What Matt? After the takeover in 1918, in October of 1918, the Soviets dealt with rebellion from then
Starting point is 04:09:40 until the German invasion. It was constant. and this kind of talk was pretty normal whether it be the peasants or from party cadres in the you know this is the party talking here the Soviet cells that kind of um or the local Soviets didn't like what was going on so you had people on the left that said this is ridiculous um this is slaughter for absolutely no reason it doesn't help our our side doesn't help our plan. These people actually believe that this was all about workers and equality. And you're going to see a right in Pravda.
Starting point is 04:10:25 Who was under the St. Petersburg Soviet connected with the revolution, but independent from it. Clown in Kronstadt rebellion. It never ended. And a lot of them were saying
Starting point is 04:10:40 this exact same kind of thing. Yes, it was only Orthodox churches. Synagogues were not touched. and Jews were the ones who were doing it. Jews were dominant or in complete control primarily of the punitive organs, the Czech, Akpoo, at all levels. And essentially the murder of Tsar Nicholas, how they were tortured, how they were sexually assaulted, the girls were, that was just a symbol what was going to do they were going to do to Russia as long as they could. What madness on the part of the Jewish militants to have mingled with the ferocious repression
Starting point is 04:11:19 exerted by the Bolsheviks against orthodoxy, even more fierce than against their own other confessions? With this persecution of priests, with the outbursts of the press of sarcasms aimed at the Christ, the Russian pens also zealously attacked Demian Bedne, Ephraim Pridvorov, for example, and he was not the only one. Yes, the Jews should have stayed out of it. On the 9th of August 1919, Patriarch Tikon wrote to the president of the V-T-S-I-K Kalanin with a copy of the Sov-Narkum President Ulyanov Lenin to demand the dismissal of the investigating magistrate Pittsburgh, Chip Pittsburgh, in charge of the affairs of the church, a man who publicly outrages the religious beliefs of the people who openly mockingly
Starting point is 04:12:11 mock ritual gestures, who in the preface to the book The Religious Plague gave Jesus Christ abominable names and thus profoundly upset my religious feeling. The text was transmitted to the small Sovnorkum, from which came the reply on September 3rd, classified the complaint of Citizen Belavine, Patriarch Tikhon, without follow-up. But Kalinin changed his mind and addressed a secret letter to the Justice Commissioner Krasikov, saying that he believed, that for practical and political considerations replaced Chippsperchipisburg with someone else, given that the audience in the court is probably in its majority orthodox, and that it is therefore necessary to deprive the religious circles of their main reason for ethnic revenge.
Starting point is 04:13:00 St. T. Con was, I have a paper that is coming out in the Barnes Review pretty soon. he was in custody for a good chunk of the of the Civil War and yes he's being a little bit naive here but eventually he came around he understood what was happening he knew
Starting point is 04:13:26 what they had done to Tsar Nicholas but it didn't make any even from a strategic standpoint the Bolsheviks this is how you know there were aided by the West, they're outraging the overwhelming majority of the Russian population. How can you
Starting point is 04:13:41 hold on to power if you're doing stuff like this? And the religious plague, he means a Christian plague. This is just a Talmud, you know, in an accessible and I've not read that book. That's just a Talmud in a more
Starting point is 04:13:57 accessible way. So maybe some people said, yeah, we can't give them reason for any kind of ethnic revenge. that didn't really go anywhere because this continued all the way up, really, until Khrushchev and even beyond. But, you know, they were doing everything in their power
Starting point is 04:14:19 to be as hated as they possibly could. And you can't do that unless you have a substantial amount of Jewish money and Western assistance. They're doing this in the middle of the Civil War, by the way. I think we should stop there. We're going to talk about the profaning of relics, and unless do you think... That's always a fun topic.
Starting point is 04:14:43 Yeah, I think we should save it for next time. What was I going to ask you? About the murder of the Tsar and his family and the overthrow, the overthrow of Rome, like the final bullet in Rome in their minds. It's hard for me to believe that people will tell you, well, you know, most Jews have never even read the Talmud, or they don't really know anything about their history. Yet, I mean, this was what, a watchmaker? This was done by people who they weren't rabbis. I mean, it's such, I use this example all the time.
Starting point is 04:15:34 you know, most Americans, you know, want to invoke the Constitution and they believe in free speech and they believe in everything that is supposed to be guaranteed in the Constitution, yet most of them never read it. It's not that you have to read and study something. I mean, you are, you're growing up in an environment where this is what the dominant, this is, this doesn't even have to be spoken in most cases if you're somebody who believes in the metaphysical. Well, yeah, this was something that. that existed in every Jewish family, some more extreme than others. But this mentality from the book, Religious Plague,
Starting point is 04:16:15 all the names that Jesus Christ is given, this is normal. In every Jewish family, you don't have to read the Talmud. I don't know how many people can actually claim to it or read the entire thing and remember it, remember from page one to the end of the last volume. I don't know how that's even possible. and what I've read of it is painful very painful
Starting point is 04:16:36 from top to bottom to go through that's not the point it's a it's a mentality it's in the Jewish mind this is what happens when you reject Logos
Starting point is 04:16:51 as they did when the Pharisees murdered Christ and the Jews continue to defend that action and seek the destruction of Christianity wherever they go. This was pretty normal for them.
Starting point is 04:17:08 And of course, T-Con was well aware of that. T-Con knew about all of this. You had so many churchmen who were kind of playing nice, if for no other reason, then to try to appeal saying, you know, we're not necessarily your enemies. I mean, T-Cun didn't say that, but trying to play nice just for the sake of saving people.
Starting point is 04:17:31 Now, the famous Patriarch Sergius later on had a gun to his head his entire, you know, he said, you know, if you don't give your church's full support to the revolution, we're going to shoot you, and we're going to shoot the rest of the Orthodox people in the USSR. So we did it. I don't know what any of us would have done in his spot. And they weren't just killed. I mean, they were tortured to death. T-Con miraculously died a natural death. But, you know, this was, this was the limit. This was every Jew's dream come true. And the only difference is, is that when Trotsky had to flee the country, and he was more obviously Jewish than either Lenin or Stalin, you had a lot of Jews that mentally went with him. And so they became anti-Stalinist, Stalin was, of course, an anti-Semite in their minds.
Starting point is 04:18:32 He was not. And then they became just anti-Soviet and became the neocons. And I don't think he talks about that in here, but I've talked about that many times in the past. They're leftists on everything except anti-communist action. Of course, now, U.S. intervention is totally different ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. It was different prior to 1990. You know, I hate to see, you know, T-Kong talking like this. These people were well aware of it, and yet, you know, they realized what could happen.
Starting point is 04:19:13 They realize what could happen to everyone around them, and the Jews were a, this was normal for them. It's happened many times in the past. This is not the first time that Jews had taken over an area in slaughtered Christians. That goes all the way back to the takeover of Jerusalem. the Persian Empire and the Persians re-took it. This goes way back to the classical period. You know, this is nothing new.
Starting point is 04:19:40 But that's really what you're talking about. You know, Talmud. Yeah, I don't have to take Talmud courses by a rabbi to be Talmudic. I don't have to be a deep into, you know, a 33rd degree Mason, a member of the craft to be Masonic. You know,
Starting point is 04:19:58 if you hate Christianity, it doesn't necessarily mean you've read Foyerbach. You know, one has nothing to do with the other. This hatred for everything, what they considered Roman, and hence Christian in their minds, that wasn't necessarily rational, but it defined what a Jew was. And in every Jewish family, you could find it. You could find it today to some extent, but certainly in Russia. And that's why you had Lenin saying any anti-Jewish thinking is, by definition, anti-Soviet, anti-communist.
Starting point is 04:20:40 He knew the two went together. All right. We'll pick it up on the next episode. I encourage everyone to go to the show notes and to go to the description in the video and contribute to Dr. Johnson and his work. And, yeah, we will be back in a few days and pick this right up. with the Bolsheviks. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, Dr. Johnson.
Starting point is 04:21:05 You take care of yourself. I want to welcome everyone back to part 66 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? Am I crazy or is Donald Trump starting another war against Venezuela? Did I just dream that? I mean, how many wars is he going to, you know, we, people, I mean, I don't vote, but people voted for him on the basis of being the peace president.
Starting point is 04:21:35 How many fronts is the, you know, overstretched and poorly manned U.S. military going to fight on? I don't know. It's very worrying. It may just be a scare tactic, but I thought when I woke up this morning, I said, I just dreamed it. I just dreamt it. But no, it's true. the Navy's, you know, a whole bunch of ships off the coast. I'm sure there are people who are going to respond with more information than I have,
Starting point is 04:22:09 but it always seems weird to me. So if it was just over oil, their oil is amongst the dirt, considered the dirtiest on the planet. And I think there's only two refineries in the country that can actually refine it properly. And one of them, I think, is in Texas and owned by, Coke industries. But yeah, it just seems odd when, you know, we have our own oil. And even if we get Saudi oil, Saudi oil is clean and naturally cleaner by a great measure than Venezuela.
Starting point is 04:22:46 So I always, I just assume there's a personal thing going on there. Well, I mean, if there's, you know, designating the narco groups as terrorists, I have no problem with that. I have no problem with using military force in our own region against groups like that. I have no problem with that. It has a hundred time zones away. It's a totally different story. But it turns out, I think, designating them as terror groups was just an excuse. And, of course, there are no real cartels in Venezuela.
Starting point is 04:23:25 so they had to invent them. The cartel of the Sons, which does not exist, is officially one of the main reasons that the Navy is there. It's sort of like the invasion of Afghanistan that had nothing to do with 9-11 whatsoever. It's almost like they're trying to be as absurd as possible, seeing what happens. All right.
Starting point is 04:23:47 Pick him up where we left off last... Sorry, what? No, no, no. I was just oi-veying. Oh, I thought he said, wait. but oe vee yes i agree all right where we were last time and what about the profanation of relics how could the masses understand such an obvious outrage so provocative could the russians the orthodox have done such things they asked each other across russia all that it is the jews who have plotted it it makes no difference to those who crucified christ and who is responsible for
Starting point is 04:24:23 the state of mind, if not the Bolshevik power, by offering to the people's spectacles of such savagery. You know, it's interesting. They went out of their way to make themselves incredibly unpopular. You know, the Tsar and the church were trusted popular institutions as far as Russians are concerned. Of course, they always have problems with them. Like, we have problems with people we love. But to deliberately go out of their way to alienate these people. in the worst possible way they clearly didn't care about their popularity
Starting point is 04:25:03 they knew that no one liked them so now pretty soon they're going to take over totally after the end of the Civil War then they have to pass a million laws to make sure that no one talks about it especially about the Jewish connection but you know we talked about a few weeks ago
Starting point is 04:25:21 the founders for example Anarchism Bakunin and Jay Prudholm or Jay Prudholm who were vehemently opposed to a Jewish power
Starting point is 04:25:37 and Jewish control and these were and even Karl Marx was done the Jewish question you know the left early on at its kind of modern founding was well aware about what the Jews were
Starting point is 04:25:55 This is also unnecessary If this movement actually cared about workers or peasants This would be the last thing they would do No, this shows the incredibly irrational hatred The contempt that the Bolsheviks had And you know just from this alone That it's a Jewish ethnic movement And of course the West had no problem with any of this
Starting point is 04:26:20 S. Bulgakov, who followed closely what happened to Orthodoxy under the Bolsheviks, wrote in 1941. In the USSR, the persecution of Christians surpassed in violence and amplitude, all previous persecutions known throughout history. Of course, we should not blame everything on the Jews, but we should not downplay their influence. We're manifested in Bolshevism, above all, the force of will and the energy of Judaism. The part played by the Jews in Bolshevism is, Alas, disproportionately great. And it is above all the sin of Judaism against Ben Israel. And it is not the sacred Israel,
Starting point is 04:26:59 but the strong will of Judaism that, in power, manifested itself in Bolshevism and the crushing of the Russian people. Although it derived from the ideological and practical program of Bolshevism, without distinction of nationality, the persecution of Christians found its most zealous actors among Jewish commissioners of militant atheism, and to have put a Gubelman, Ayerslavsky, at the head of the Union of the Goddess, was to commit in the face of all the Russian Orthodox people an act of religious effrontery.
Starting point is 04:27:32 I have a whole lecture out. I don't know. I think the paper is in very rough form about Gubelman. It was called the godless five-year plan, and it was Jewish from top to bottom. Now, Sergei Bulgakov, the priest, known, I mean, for the time, vaguely liberal, I don't want to stress that too much, vaguely liberal, had no choice. But, I mean, he was honest. He's, you know, regardless of what his political views were, you know, this is a Jewish movement. This was, this is why, you know, they figure, you know, they're in a war, they're in a civil war, and this is what they spend their time on. clearly this is a hearts and minds kind of thing
Starting point is 04:28:22 and this is what they do this is how they waste their energy by alienating as many people as humanly possible it's just just in this kind of action you know that Marxism Leninism is not what it says it is that you can't take anything they say
Starting point is 04:28:43 at face value and anyone except for the Jews themselves, those who supported Lenin, anyone alive at the time, and even Winston Churchill agreed with this assessment. You know, only in recent years has, you know, propaganda and laws, especially in the EU, smashed any kind of discussion about this.
Starting point is 04:29:11 I mean, you can't say this on a university campus. You will be removed, whether a student or a, or, a professor, especially if you talk about it a lot. But back then, it was a normal thing to say. It was undeniable. It's still undeniable today. You're just not allowed to talk about it.
Starting point is 04:29:35 But for someone like Bogokov to talk like this, it's, you know, and he was not a far leftist. I'm not saying that. But you have all of these people, whether on the far left or just, you know, liberals talking about the Jews. this way, there's no question. And we're still debating this point, whether or not Bolivism was a Jewish movement or not. There is no debating this point anymore. And it's one of the reasons this book is so valuable. Another very ostensible effrontery, this way of rechristening cities and places.
Starting point is 04:30:07 Custom, in fact, less Jewish than typically Soviet. But can we affirm that for the inhabitants of Gashina, the new name of their city, Trotsk, did not have a foreign residence? likewise for Pavlosk, now Slutsk. Yuritsky gives its name to the square of the palace, Vorovsky to the St. Isaac Place, Voladarsky to the prospect of the founders, Nakimson to the St. Vladimir prospect, Rochal to the barge of the Admiralty,
Starting point is 04:30:40 and the second class painter Isaac Brodsky gives his name to the so beautiful St. Michael Street. I want to recommend the work of Vladimir Moss in Britain. We've had our disagreements in the past. He is a monarchist, but his work on what we call the new martyrs, those murdered by the Jewish communists. His work on that, he has volume after volume, after volume. He goes person by person, by person, bishops, priest, prominent layman. and he has a much stronger stomach than I do.
Starting point is 04:31:17 It isn't just these people were thrown in the gulag or murdered. So many of them were tortured to death in bizarre ways, something that a normal person would never even think of to cause pain. And so this was even beyond neurotic hatred. It was even beyond the rejection of logos. The Jews were a manifestation of evil. And it finally dawned on so many Russians in exile that that's the case. This is different from any evil that had shown itself before.
Starting point is 04:31:53 Everything seemed to have been just a precursor. This was a different phenomenon. This was a level of evil that a lot of people, a lot of good people, weren't prepared for. Notice everything that you've said so far that they're alienating the people that they're doing, making, I mean, this is what they're doing now and openly and on camera. And they're filming. I mean, the only thing that's changed is technology. Right. They can no longer stand each other. Their heads were turning. Through the immensity of Russia, it flashes by. Elizabeth, Elizabeth grade becomes Zenov-Zinovizk. And let's go boldly. The city where the czar was assassinated takes the name of the assassin.
Starting point is 04:32:43 It is obvious that what that was present in the Russian national consciousness as early as 1920, the idea of a national revenge on the part of Bolshevik Jews since it even appeared in the papers of the Soviet government. It serves as an argument to Kalinin. Well, revenge in the Jewish mind. That's a delusion from the, you know, when we started talking about modern Russia, let's say with Tsar Paul and Alexander I, Alexander I, the first, the Russian government bent over backwards to settle the Jews, to have them live a normal life, spent a fortune on them, any anti-Jewish acts was done at the local level, and usually for very good reason, the czars stopped the pogrom such as they were. you know people went to prison over it
Starting point is 04:33:43 so what revenge you know it that kind of mythology took on a life of its own by this point that the monarchy somehow created these pogroms and the pogromes were done for absolutely no reason and the pogroms were Russians against defenseless Jews it's one lie attached to another one
Starting point is 04:34:04 you have a delusion on a foundation of sand But over time, when you hear it enough, and everyone around you says the same thing, it becomes an obvious truth in the Jewish mind because they were a separate people, often not even speaking Russian, this took on almost a mythic character that was absolutely true and beyond denial. there was nothing to take revenge on. It was pure delusion. They had to, you know, they rationalized it. But whenever Jews took power over Christians, this is what they did. Of course, Pasmannock's refutation was right. For the wicked and narrow minded, everything could not be explained more simply.
Starting point is 04:34:54 The Jewish Gahal had decided to seize Russia, or is it the revengeful Judaism that settles its accounts with Russia for the humiliations undergone in the past. Of course, we cannot explain the victory and the maintenance of the Bolsheviks. But if the program of 1905 burns in the memory of your family, and if, in 1915, we're driven out of the Western territories, with the strikes of a whip, your brother is by blood, you can very well, three or four years later, want to avenge yourself in your turn with a whip or a revolver bullet. We are not going to ask whether communist Jews consciously wanted to take revenge on Russia by destroying, by breaking the Russian heritage, but totally denying this spirit of vengeance, would be denying any relationship
Starting point is 04:35:39 between the inequality of rights under the Tsar and the participation in Jews in Bolshevism, a relationship that is constantly evoked. It's kind of a worrisome paragraph, but I think all he's doing here is he's speaking from the, Sultan Eastern is speaking from the Russian point of view. Now, of course, this is Pazmonic at first, but everything from, of course, is Solzhenitsyn. This is how the Jews thought of things. And when this list of alleged crimes by the Russian government, the way that they put it, happened for no reason. You can't give a reason.
Starting point is 04:36:26 Context is their biggest enemy Because context makes everything Very complex And complexity doesn't work You can't have slogans And simple explanations With any kind of complexity There was no pogrom of 1905
Starting point is 04:36:43 The Jews created it It was their behavior They were attacking churches even then They weren't driven out of Western territories for no reason and they were subsidized and they tried to give them free land and on and on and on
Starting point is 04:36:59 but in their minds you know, Solzhen Eastern speaking from that neurotic point of view that all this happened to us for no reason and it's weird how it never happened in any other minority in Russia and never the Armenians or the Tartars or the Germans just us
Starting point is 04:37:17 well that means that they must be jealous of us and so they justified what they're doing as some kind of revenge and you hear people like Gary Hamburg at Notre Dame who I always single out as an idiot
Starting point is 04:37:28 denies that Bolivism was Jewish loudly as a virtue signal and then says well to the extent that it was it was only because
Starting point is 04:37:39 of Zaris anti-Semitism and he doesn't understand context either and he says this stuff very proudly and very loudly because
Starting point is 04:37:48 you know he needs people to know you know, I'm on board. That's the whole concept of virtue signaling. A virtue signaling comment is, I used to call it a membership slogan. You say something to let people more powerful than you know that you're no threat, that you're on board, you're with them. And he'll even shoehorn this stuff into a lecture about, you know, something else.
Starting point is 04:38:15 Just to let everybody know where he stands. I don't know whether he knows he's, he's, he's, full of it or not, or he simply doesn't have access to the information because of the censorship, like we do, but I've always said that's the price you pay for tenure as having to say this, this nonsense. The fact that this is still being taught by people like Gary, you know, professors at every major university, you know, you're not getting an education, you're simply getting the Jewish point of view repackaged as factual history. It just didn't happen this way.
Starting point is 04:38:55 Whatever happened existed because of Jewish behavior. There was nothing to take revenge on. And there was always a handful of Jews who realized this at the time. We've cited a few of them in the past that knew that this was from Jewish behavior. But again, no one wants to muddy the waters. There's always a simple explanation. The goreum are evil. The Jews are just better.
Starting point is 04:39:21 and more intelligent, and the goy and react by violence. And that's why this is all going on. And this is how I am Beekerman confronted with the fact of the disproportionate participation of the Jews and the work of barbaric destruction to those who recognize the right of the Jews to avenge past persecutions refutes this right. The destructive zeal of our co-religionists is blamed on the state, who, by its vexations and persecutions, would have pushed a Jews into the revolution? Well, no, he says, it is to the manner in which an individual reacts to the evil suffered that he has distinguished from another.
Starting point is 04:39:58 And the same is true of a community of men. Later in 1939, taking in the destiny of Judaism under the black cloud of the coming new era, the same Beakerman wrote, the great difference between the Jews and the world around them was that they could only be the anvil and never the hammer. You see how irrational, even if it was true, even if, their, the Jewish point of view was correct, they were taking this out on innocent people by the thousands and eventually the millions. It was pure, it was collective punishment.
Starting point is 04:40:33 So even if it were true, it's still irrational. It still doesn't make any sense. And it still alienated the people who they were claiming they were serving. You can't say that we're for the Russian workers and then do things like this. Everything they did. That's how the left works. the left works either by deceit or at the barrel of a gun. Leftism, whatever part, you know, whatever faction comes into existence at the barrel of a gun or by deception, sometimes both. It's such a bizarre and unnatural ideology, not speaking generally, that no one would voluntarily, not without a lot of propaganda and a lot of violence, accept it and be ruled by it or agree with it.
Starting point is 04:41:18 the Bolsheviks were aware that the mass, especially at the peasantry, were vehemently opposed to them. There were a lot of them were old believers, a lot of them were, or simply orthodox. And they actually believed in a communal way of living, but a very ancient form of communal living. One connected with natural law, you would think that any socialist was, oh, this is a great idea. We could just build on that. No, no, no, no, they had to have that completely destroyed. There's many different forms of social. I mean, there's national socialism and Christian socialism.
Starting point is 04:41:57 There was a Christian socialist party in the Austro-Hungarian Empire that was anti-Jew, you know, anti-Semitic, and talked about central bankers and everything else. You know, that we talked about, it was only until this era where, because Marx was financed so well, that socialism was entirely Marxism, maybe anarchistic. One of the two, materialists and all that, didn't have to be. A normal person, let's say in some weird way, this was a Russian, actual Russian revolution. The last thing they would do is destroy already existing socialist institutions. They would finance them.
Starting point is 04:42:40 They would support them. No, the first thing they did was destroy them. and that's, you know, my book, the Soviet experiment. That's one of my many arguments that revolution had nothing to do with workers or peasants. All of this stuff proves it. If you're dedicated to serving their interests, this isn't what you're going to do. They knew they were unpopular, so they had to liquidate a whole lot of people if they were going to stay in power. I do not intend to dig here in this limited work.
Starting point is 04:43:12 the great historical destinies, but I am expressing a categorical reservation on the point. Perhaps this was so since the beginning of time, but as of 1918 and Russia, and for another 15 years, the Jews who joined the revolution also served as hammer, at least a large part of them. Here in our review comes the voice of Boris Pasternak. In his Dr. Javago, he writes, It is True, after the Second World War, thus after the cataclysm, which came down, crushing and sinister over the Jews of Europe and which overturned our entire vision of the world. But in the novel itself, it is discussed the years of the revolution. He speaks of this modest, sacrificial way of remaining aloof, which only engenders misfortune of their fragility
Starting point is 04:44:00 and their inability to strike back. Yet did we not both have before us the same country at different ages, certainly, but where we live the same 20s and 30s, the contemporary of those years remains mute with astonishment. Pasternak would thus not have seen, I believe, what was happening. His parents, his painter father, his pianist mother, belonged to a highly cultivated Jewish milieu, living in perfect harmony with the Russian intelligentsia. He himself grew up in a tradition already quite rich, a tradition that led the Rubenstein brothers, the moving Leviton, the subtle Gershusen, the philosopher is Franken Chestoff, to give themselves to Russia and Russian culture. It is probable that this unambiguous choice, the perfect equilibrium between life and service,
Starting point is 04:44:54 which was theirs, appeared to Pasternak as the norm, while the monstrous gaps, frightening relative to this norm, did not reach the retina of his eye. I want to note that I have a book out on the Orthodox tradition in Russian literature, which I put out a long time ago. I cringe at a few lines here and there. It was a long time ago. And I have an essay on Pastornak. I would have to go and reread.
Starting point is 04:45:25 It's been a little while. But I think everything that Chiltern He's saying here is true. Frank, of course, he mentions Frank, who was a Jewish convert. and who became a conservative in Russian history and argued against the Jewish point of view in a lot of these things. He was not the easiest person to read, but you do have exceptions like that amongst the Jewish intellectual world. On the other hand, these differences penetrated the field of view of thousands of others. Thus witness of these years, Beekerman writes, the two visible participation of the Jews in the Bolshevik in the Bolshevik Saturnalia attracts the eyes of the Russians and those of the whole world.
Starting point is 04:46:13 No, the Jews were not the great driving force of the October coup. The latter, moreover, brought them nothing since the February Revolution had already granted them full and complete freedom. But after the coup de force took place, it was then that the younger lake generation quickly changed horses and launched themselves with no less assurance into the infernal gallop of Bolshevism. I think, you know, we may have a bit of a disagreement with him here. I think they were the driving force. Um, um, so, you know, uh, and I wonder if this, this new translation that's coming out, if this is what they're going to stress, if they're going to say, well, he said things like this, that means your point of view. What we're talking about is absolutely, uh, correct. What he seems to be
Starting point is 04:47:02 arguing here is that after October, they realized that this is where the power and the money is going to be, so they joined up. That's not true. I mean, Solzniptons already mentioned this, that it's not true. They were the driving force, and yet they had people like Lenin at the top, not only because he was, you know, he was an important writer, and, you know, certainly, a great organizer, but he also didn't have an obviously Jewish last name. Obviously, it was not the Melamedes that produced this, but the reasonable part of the Jewish people let itself be overwhelmed by hotheads, and thus an almost entire generation became renegade, and the race was launched.
Starting point is 04:47:51 G. Landau looked for the motives that led the younger generation to join the camp of the new victors. He writes, here was the rancor with regard to the old world, and the exclusion of political life and Russian life in general, as well as a certain rationalism peculiar to the Jewish people, and willpower which, in mediocre beings, can take the form of insolence and ruthless ambition. Some people seek an apology by the way of explanations. Quote, the material conditions of life after the October coup created a climate such that the Jews were forced to join the Bolsheviks. This explanation is widespread. Forty-two percent of the Jewish population or Russia were engaged in commercial activity, they lost it, they found themselves in a dead-end
Starting point is 04:48:34 situation, where to go. In order not to die of hunger, they were forced to take service with the government without paying too much attention to the kind of work they were asked to do. It was necessary to enter the Soviet apparatus where the number of Jewish officials from the beginning of the October Revolution was very high. Yeah, I mean, they went from one to another. There was still merchant activity going on. Certainly. in the new economic program, new economic policy, whatever it is,
Starting point is 04:49:04 that spirit was dominant. They controlled and completely dominated the NEP. But whether or not they worked for the Cheka or were selling something off a push cart, they did well either way.
Starting point is 04:49:20 And I have the feeling that having power, like being a Chekker's officer or something, was far more appealing than selling trinkets from a store. They had no way out. Did the tens of thousands of Russian officials who refused to serve Bolshevism have
Starting point is 04:49:39 somewhere to go to starve? But how we're living the others? Especially since they were receiving food aid from organizations such as the joint, the ORT, financed by wealthy Jews from the West. Enlisting in the Czechos was never the only way out. There was at least another, not to do it, to resist. The result, Pasmatic, concludes, is that Bolshevism became for the hungry Jews of cities a trade equal to the previous trades, Taylor, broker, or apothecary. Yeah, it's kind of what I just said.
Starting point is 04:50:15 The food aid is always interesting, you know, the West, not just wealthy Jews, but the West in general was propping up the early Soviet government. But what he's talking about here is, you know, he's kind of making fun of this justification. Material life was such that they had to join the Bolsheviks, as if Bolsheviks were separate from Jewish life. You know, and also we've shown that we don't really know what Jews were doing. We talked about that for the last few months that, yeah, they may claim to be, a tailor or something, but there's evidence that they really weren't. They were just saying that for the sake of certain benefits. They were very much a mafia-style organization.
Starting point is 04:51:10 And what they claimed to be doing professionally, what they actually were doing, are two very different things. But if this is so, it may be said 70 years later, in good conscience, for those who did not want to immigrate to the United States and become American, who did not want to immigrate to Palestine to remain Jews, for those the only issue was communism. Again, the only way out? It is precisely this that is called renouncing one's historical responsibility. Other arguments have more substance and weight. Quote, a people that has suffered such persecution, and this throughout its history, could not in its great majority
Starting point is 04:51:51 not become bearers of the revolutionary doctrine and internationalism of socialism, for it gave its Jewish followers the hope of never again being pariahs on this very earth and not in the chimerical Palestine of the great ancestors. Further on, during the Civil War already and immediately afterward, they were stronger in competition with the newcomers from the ethnic population, and they filled many of the voids that the revolution had created in society. In doing so, they had for the most part broken. with their national and spiritual tradition, after which all those who wanted to assimilate,
Starting point is 04:52:26 especially the first generation, and at the time of their massive apparition, took root in the relatively superficial layers of a culture that was new to them. I'm not sure if that's true, you know, breaking with the so-called national and spiritual tradition. You know, Trotsky talks about this a lot. He saw it as, and Moses Hess, really, as the completion of their national and spiritual tradition. tradition. They may not have been doing the rituals anymore. But as far as Tikunulam is concerned, they were manifesting Judaism at its highest level. We were healing the world. We were ridding the world of monarchy and Christianity. Moses has said that's when paradise is going to come down to us,
Starting point is 04:53:14 is when that happens. So, breaking with, and again, there were, you know, a hand, handful of very spiritual decent Jews who didn't like this, who knew it was going to cause nothing but trouble. But they certainly weren't persecuted. Now, later on, that might have been the case. But at this point, so many Jews saw this as the manifestation of the spiritual tradition, the completion, the zenith, not abandoning it. One wonders, however, how it is possible that the centuries-old traditions of this ancient culture have proved powerless to counteract the infatuation with the barbaric slogans of the Bolshevik revolutionaries. When socialism, the companion of the revolution, melted onto Russia, not only were the Jews,
Starting point is 04:54:02 numerous and dynamic, brought to life on the crest of the devastating wave, but the rest of the Jewish people found itself deprived of any idea of resistance and was invited to look at what was happening with a perplexed sympathy, wondering, impotent. What was going to result from it. How is it that in every circle of Jewish society, the revolution was welcomed with enthusiasm, an inexplicable enthusiasm when one knows of what disillusionments composed the history of this people? How could the Jewish people, rationalist and lucid, allow itself to indulge in the intoxication of revolutionary phraseology? There's a certain sarcasm here. But, you know, deprived of any idea.
Starting point is 04:54:46 of resistance. Of course, that's obviously not true. He's laying out, you know, the idea that that's simply impossible under the circumstances. It's kind of what I just said. This is, this is Judaism in action. In every circle of Jewish society, the revolution was welcomed, not just welcomed, but with enthusiasm. And it's not inexplicable at all. They realized that something had changed. This was different. at no other time had the Jews taken over since Khazadia with such violence and such vehemence the Jews had to hold together that was the core of Bolshevism that's how it worked that's how it got the sympathy of the West
Starting point is 04:55:38 that's how it was financed we've been saying from the beginning that the Jewish mind mind is, you know, even a religious mind, is perfectly consistent with materialism and historical determinism. We've been saying that for quite a while. If Spinoza has anything to say about it, and I've written quite a bit on Spinoza, I think, I like him. I always thought that he was misunderstood. But if he's significant and he was normally considered a determinist, well, how is that, you know, well, he was also thrown out of the synagogue, but the point being is that he, he, he, he's was a symbol of Judaism for for centuries. Moses has talked about him all the time. So it's the same thing. This wasn't, you know, allowing themselves to indulge.
Starting point is 04:56:30 The intoxication comes from their entire so-called spiritual history. The revolutionary phrase, especially, you know, he says phraseology specifically. That means propaganda. That comes directly from the Jews. You know, those bureaus were run 100%. by Jews. It wasn't imposed on them. They created it.
Starting point is 04:56:52 D.S. Pasmanic evokes in 1924, those Jews who proclaim loudly and clearly the genetic link between Bolshevism and Judaism, who openly boasted about the sentiments of sympathy which the mass
Starting point is 04:57:08 of the Jewish people nourished towards the power of the commissars of the commissioners. At the same time, Pesmanich himself pointed out, the points which may at first be the foundation of rapprochement between Bolshevism and Judaism. These are the concern for happiness on earth and that of social justice. Judaism was the first to put forward these two great principles. We read in an issue of the London newspaper Jewish Chronicle of 1919 when the revolution had not yet cooled down,
Starting point is 04:57:39 an interesting debate on the issue. The permanent correspondent of this paper, a certain mentor, writes that it is not fitting for the Jews to pretend that they have no connection with the Bolsheviks. Thus, in America, the rabbi and Dr. Judah Magnus supported the Bolsheviks, which means that he did not regard Bolshevism as incompatible with Judaism. He writes again the following week, Bolshevism is in itself a great evil, but paradoxically, it also represents the hope of humanity. Was the French Revolution not bloody? It is well, and yet it was justified by history. The Jew, as I idealistic by nature, and it is not surprising. It is even logical that he believed the promises of
Starting point is 04:58:20 Bolshevism. There is much room for reflection in the very fact of Bolshevism and the adherence of many Jews to Bolshevism, and the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism in many respects join those of Judaism, a great number of which have been taken up by the founder of Christianity. The Jews who think must examine all this carefully. One must be foolish to see in Bolshevism, only its off-putting aspects. All the same is not Judaism above all the recognition of one God, but this in itself is enough to make it incompatible with Bolshevism, the denier of God. Yeah, that's a very naive statement.
Starting point is 04:59:03 That's Sultan-Etsin talking here. That quote from the Jewish Chronicle is over. I've heard that many times that how can a Jew be a Bolshevik? How could they be controlling this thing? Bolivism was officially an atheist and materialist. And, of course, the answer to that is that apparently you don't know anything about Judaism. You assume that they are the followers of the Old Testament, which is absolutely nonsense. It is perfectly consistent.
Starting point is 04:59:32 But this cut – now, I've heard this before. In fact, it rings a bell. I've heard this even when I was in college that, well, it was bloody. But, you know, so was the French Revolution. We all love that, right? I mean, you know, the Jew is such a lover of justice that how could he possibly resist being a part of the Bolshevik revolution? Oh, stop worrying about their off-putting aspects. Worry about what they say that they're going to do.
Starting point is 05:00:02 Yeah, the truth of the matter is that national socialist states actually did the things that the Bolsheviks promised. they were going to do with, as far as the workers and peasants were concerned. They actually did it, and they did it fairly quickly. This is why they were so successful. But Bolivism was just that. It was promises that it gave to the Gentiles, but the Jewish inner core knew exactly that was nonsense. They knew exactly the esoteric meaning of those promises.
Starting point is 05:00:35 Happiness on earth and social justice. Well, for whom? And that question is unanswered. It's not even asked anymore. there's a Russian book called Jewish happiness I always thought that was an odd title but it comes directly from this pure happiness
Starting point is 05:00:55 on a utopia of social justice that's the foundation of Judaism and hence you know that that explains why there was any flirtation with Bolshevism at all on the point of the Jews they were fooled they were they were they were bamboozled by it.
Starting point is 05:01:16 But the connection with the French Revolution always made me laugh. And it comes up quite a bit. You know, Lenin and Trotsky didn't deny it. They talk about the use of terrorism. Early on, they talk about the use of bank robbery, killing people. You got to remember, when you're an atheist and a materialist, well, if you're an atheist, you have to be a materialist. What's a human being? A human being is just a blob.
Starting point is 05:01:44 It's matter in motion. It's just nerve endings. There's nothing special about them. So, killing them for the sake of social justice is not really a big deal, especially when you don't like them. Remember, whenever anyone tries to tell you, you know, the right windkill people and, you know, death squads and all that nonsense, well, you could say, well, yes, of course, in the course of a course of a world. war, you're going to have excesses. Those are aberrations. But the concept of cleansing society, of destroying whole strata, that's part of the
Starting point is 05:02:24 ideology of Bolivism. You know, from St. Petersburg to Hanoi, that's what Bolivism is, and they don't shy away from it. Mass murder is an aspect of Bolshevik ideology. You have to eliminate. your enemies. You have to get rid of these people when the Bolsheviks refer to the people or the workers or the peasants. I'm not talking about everybody.
Starting point is 05:02:52 They're talking about the party. They're talking about their supporters. And in some cases, they're just talking about the Jews. So, you know, but, you know, it's the funniest part is it has to be foolish to see Bolivism only in its off-putting aspects, you know, but I'm willing to say that the 1919 article is probably completely representative of your typical Jew in 1919 in the West. Still on the search for motives for such a broad participation of Jews in the Bolshevik
Starting point is 05:03:31 adventure, I, Beekerman writes, we must be four of the facts to spare the future of our people. If we did not know that of all the contagions, the worst is that of words. Why was the Jewish consciousness so receptive to this infection? The question would be too long to develop here. The causes reside not only in the circumstances of yesterday, but also in the ideas inherited from ancient times, which predisposes Jews to be contaminated by ideology, even if it is null and subversive. I did a lecture on the, as I mentioned before, on the, on the first laws and decrees against anti-Semitism that Lenin put out. And I quote a few major people who were alive at the time, so-called historians who were alive at the time. And it's almost funny if it didn't
Starting point is 05:04:24 lead to the murder of millions that they're trying to under, where is all this anti-Jewish thinking coming from? Where's all this anti-Semitism coming from? It's not that we're burning down their church. It's not that we're killing them. It's not that we're controlling the secret police. No, they have one theory after another, and they get funnier and funnier because they're so ridiculous. It's such very poor special pleading. The person I'm talking about is, was actually a Mensovic who fled, who by the way, fled the USSR because they weren't anti- Gentile enough. And, and, Jointrotsky, and actually, that paper is, I could finish that paper, I could send it to you.
Starting point is 05:05:08 You could publish it right on your, right on your site. But, you know, it's almost funny to see the gymnastics, the mental gymnastics, the Jews had to do to try to figure out, why does everyone hate us so much, you know, as they're sending Christians to the gulag? I wonder why that is, and they theorize about it. And that's actually being taken seriously by academics in the universities today. Espochakoff also writes, The face that Judaism shows in Russian Bolshevism is by no means a true face of Israel. It reflects, even within Israel, a state of terrible spiritual crisis, which can lead to beastiality.
Starting point is 05:05:50 I think Michael Jones calls that what happens when you reject Logos. Right, precisely. As for the argument that the Jews of Russia have three, thrown themselves into the arms of Bolsheviks because of the vexations they have suffered in the past, it must be confronted with the two other communist shows of strength that occurred at the same time as that of Lenin in Bavaria and in Hungary. We read in I-Levin, quote, the number of Jews serving the Bolshevik regime is in these two countries very high. In Bavaria, we find among the commissaries, the Jews, E. Levine, M. Levin, Axelrod,
Starting point is 05:06:30 the anarchist ideologist Landauer, Ernst Toller, the proportion of Jews who took the lead of the Bolshevik movement in Hungary is of 95%. However, the situation of the Jews in terms of civic rights was excellent in Hungary, where there had not been any limitation for a long time already in the cultural and economic sphere. The Jews occupied such a position that the anti-Semites could even speak of a hold of the Jews. We may add here the remark of an eminent Jewish publisher of America, he writes that the Jews of Germany, quote, have prospered and gained a high position in society. Let us not forget in this connection that the ferment of rebellion that was at the origin of the coup de force, of which we shall speak again in Chapter 16, had been introduced by the Bolsheviks through the intermediary of repatriated prisoners stuffed with propaganda. Yeah, Hungary is a great example.
Starting point is 05:07:30 Marxism in America You know Michael Collins-Piper used to say Well, early on it was either Jewish or Irish But they prospered in The Russian Empire too It's not just Hungary
Starting point is 05:07:49 These were The limitations On Jewish movement Or universities Were formalities They prospered completely there. They prospered pretty much everywhere, but that has nothing to do with their hatred of those who were trying to support them. In fact, if anything, it made them seem weaker. So, yeah, the Hungarian example, I've been doing this for so long. I have the paper on that, too, on the Hungarian situation. And that's the situation where Stalin said, you know every single one of you is a Jew you need to find a non-Jew and make him
Starting point is 05:08:38 president of the people's you know because president would have no power and it would be run by Bella Cohen or Bella Cohen who actually ran things and it took him a while and they finally found someone made him president and that was the spokesman for the for the for the society thank God it didn't last long the great Miklos Horthy took over who was a good man and a good ruler but I'm glad he mentions this
Starting point is 05:09:09 because Hungary was almost an extreme case because it was pretty much 100% to the point where Stalin was really worried this is one place where it says and they were treated extremely well there so all this nonsense about anti-Semitism leading to mass murder
Starting point is 05:09:27 and revenge and that revenge takes the killing innocent people. It just doesn't make any sense, even if it were true, is nonsense. But that's why it's not just the manipulation of history. They also have to have laws in place that protect them against anyone talking like this for too long. You know, the speech codes on campus from, that was from, you know, my era in the early 90s. Now they take far more substantial action against them. simply, you're simply gone if you say anything like this. I don't know if I could have gotten
Starting point is 05:10:06 my education if I was younger. You know, I, you know, I made it, I mean, I didn't, I didn't talk about this stuff all that much. I couldn't. But I did ask questions once in a while. But even that, I don't think that would work today. I think, and now with the, the Trump attempts to shut down any discussion of Judaism at all unless it's, you know, worshipful over Israel is going to make it worse. So, but they, Jews were prosperous in all of these places. Russia treated them extremely well.
Starting point is 05:10:47 And we've, we've proven that. We've discussed that from the very beginning. Hungary, you know, so these limitations, that was either from their own behavior or something that was only a formality. But they needed to use it. They needed to justify this to the world. They needed to make sure that people thought in the West
Starting point is 05:11:05 that they had reason to be angry. But I'll repeat myself here. Even if what they say is true, that still doesn't justify the murder of millions. One last paragraph. What brought all these rebels together and later, beyond the seas, was a flurry of unbridled,
Starting point is 05:11:26 revolutionary, internationalist, an impulse towards revolution, a revolution that was global and permanent. The rapid success of the Jews and the Bolshevik administration could not be ignored in Europe and the United States. Even worse, they were admired there. At the time of the passage from February to October, Jewish public opinion in America did not mute its sympathies for the Russian revolution. Well, that's really easy to do when the press is simply repeating what they've been told. over there. I've read, you know, the early American media, I mean, you know, a sample of it from this era.
Starting point is 05:12:11 And it was not particularly anti-Bolshevik. I don't think they really understood what Bolshevism was. I don't think they connected it with, you know, communism. All they cared about was that the Tsar is gone. and the only time they worried This is the same thing with Woodrow Wilson The only time they worried is if they wanted to export that Oh, now they're acting like czars
Starting point is 05:12:37 That was the famous quote from Woodrow Wilson Then all of a sudden you have a problem with it Only if they act like Russians, do they have a problem with it But in and of itself The press was fully in support of the revolution Both of them But it took a while for there to be any real understanding of Bolshevik ideology, I think one of the first, I mean, as far as
Starting point is 05:13:03 American presidents, it was Nixon, who I think was the last man who had a firmly independent understanding of global politics. I think he was the last president who actually knew in detail. And his work on Bolshevism was actually really good. And that's how he kind of made his, became famous in the alter his case. Now, you know, they don't know anything. But this is a new thing for them. And Russia was always this big black spot on the map. So they were quite willing to believe anything they were told on what this revolution was, that it was a Russian revolution, not a Jewish one. And they got the sympathy, not just of the Jews, but Bolshevism. Or, and later
Starting point is 05:13:52 on, just straight out Marxism and communism, that was the wave of the future. That was, you know, Western intellectuals fell in love with it. You always had reactions against it. But, and this was, you know, in government and in media, this was the wave of the future. This is both, you know, socialism, this is how it's going to be. This is an inevitable conclusion to world history. This is what the Enlightenment is. is leading to that was extremely common in intellectuals especially in western europe slightly
Starting point is 05:14:30 less so in in america but the press either through ignorance or through malice refused to talk about the evils what was going on the the destruction of of russian life there and the mass murder there they clearly hated the white armies they said that they were just monarchists and Russian nationalists or something like that and there's always an anti-Semite and therefore he's evil
Starting point is 05:14:56 that's pretty much the point of view that you had in the New York Times the early, very early version of the New York Times so it was very easy to be sympathetic
Starting point is 05:15:07 when that's only the information you were getting and the Russians who went into exile it took them a while to learn English well enough to explain
Starting point is 05:15:18 themselves actually took them quite a while originally everything they did was in Russian and remember at this point a lot of people in the West didn't think it was going to last though it's so unstable there's not that many of them they only held
Starting point is 05:15:35 St. Petersburg and a few other areas so worrying about Bolsheism wasn't a big deal at the time and I think it was common to think that it was this wasn't going to last very long. So that's pretty. That was pretty. And the only thing, the other thing that the press had a problem with was the treaty that gave, you know, that drew a Brezlovsk that took Russia out of the war and gave Germany a substantial part of Western Russia. That had nothing to do
Starting point is 05:16:13 with Marxism, had nothing to do with their behavior. But oh my God, this is a pro-German thing to do. It was an outrage. So the condemnations of the Bolsheviks for that, again, had nothing to do with Bolshevism. That was another, there was a handful of reasons why you did have some anti-Bolshevik thinking at the time, but none of it had anything to do with socialism or communism or the evils that they were promoting over there. All right. I'm going to end it right there. Natural break. Pick up in a couple days. I encourage everyone to go over to the show notes and to go over the description of the videos. Donate to Dr. Johnson, sign up for Patreon, do what you've got to do to keep Dr. Johnson unemployed and working for us.
Starting point is 05:16:54 I appreciate you, Dr. Johnson. Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Any time. I want to welcome everyone back to part 67 of our reading of Alexander Solzhenitson's 200 years together. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing this fine Saturday? It is a fine Saturday.
Starting point is 05:17:14 I'm looking over and it is 65 degrees in my long. office, despite it being on the second floor. It is sunny. The corn next door is ready to be harvested probably in another month. It's just everything feels right. So let's get this done before something ruins it. Yeah. It's been high 50s, low 60s in the morning here.
Starting point is 05:17:41 It's been getting up to 80 during the day, but it's definitely not Alabama weather, you know, that you're, you know, July Alabama weather, so yeah, it's really nice. All righty, picking up where we left off. Meanwhile, the Bolsheviks were conducting their financial operations diligently abroad, mainly via Stockholm. Since Lenin's return to Russia, secret supplies had come to them of German provenance through the Nia Bankin of Olaf Ashberg. This did not exclude the financial support of certain.
Starting point is 05:18:18 Russian bankers, those who, fleeing the revolution, had sought refuge abroad but had transformed there into volunteer support of the Bolsheviks. An American researcher Anthony Sutton has found, with half a century of delay, archival documents. He tells us that, if we are to believe a report sent in 1918 to the State Department by the U.S. Ambassador in Stockholm, Among these Bolshevik bankers is the infamous Dimitri Rubinstein that the Revolution of February had gotten out of prison, who had reached Stockholm and made himself the financial agent of the Bolsheviks. We also find Abram Zhivotovsky, a relative of Trotsky and Lev Kamenev. Among the syndicates were Denisov of the Ex-Bank of Siberia, Kamenka,
Starting point is 05:19:14 of the bank Azov Don and Davidov of the Bank of Foreign Trade. Other Bolshevik bankers, Gregori Leasin, Schifler, Schifter, Iakov Berline, and their agent, Isidore Kohn. Yeah, we've been, we've been forgetting about Jewish bankers within the boundaries of the old Russian Empire. Some of them were leaving, but they were transferring money to the Reds and continued to do so once they left. They weren't fleeing the Bolsheviks. They were fleeing the war.
Starting point is 05:19:55 But now, I think this is the first time we're mentioning Anthony Sutton. When I read his three-volume work on concerning how the U.S. built Soviet. Russia. I shouldn't say, sorry, the Soviet Union. I was never the same. I mean, this was one of those books. It's a voice set. He had another one that he published later. It's one of these books that just altered my perception. It was many, many years ago. And the fact that, first of all, it proved that communism is false, because that would be impossible. Any communist and his power would not have the support of banks or industrialists abroad. That's laughable in Marx's own theory.
Starting point is 05:20:50 But in this three volume, one of the reasons is three volumes is because he is so detailed, you know, he has receipts, he has everything you can imagine, there is no denying that in every sector, you know, financial is one, but from mining, you know, coal especially, electricity, auto, you know, all the foundational industries that you would need to rebuild a country. Every one of them came from a Western, usually an American corporation, who saw an opportunity to make a huge profit there. At the same time, you had Bolshevik members of the party. coming over to universities and institutes in Britain and the U.S. learning about how to do it and then gets sent back.
Starting point is 05:21:48 What kind of a, clearly, it's not an anti-communist situation here. That never stopped. That never ended. So by the time you get to someone like Nixon, who did have a firm understanding of Bolshevism, and then Ronald Reagan, as we all know, they were powerless. It's very hard to tell an American billionaire where he could make money and where he can't. Reagan used to complain about the fact that he's trying to ban sales of back then, the high-tech computer stuff, to the USSR, but he couldn't.
Starting point is 05:22:30 You know, there was no, there were no sanctions on it. So, I mean, this shows you something. this is one of the major reasons why the whole history of the 20th century has to be rewritten I said it before I'm going to say it a million times again Henry Ford built the largest Ford plant in the world in Karcoff in western Ukraine under the you know under Stalin and almost everything that the Soviet automotive you know they branched out but it all came from that one that one factory
Starting point is 05:23:08 Now, Marxism suggests that that would be impossible. That can't be. What kind of a Cold War can you have when you have trade like that at its most fundamental levels where presidents are powerless to stop it? You know, the Russian American Export Bank, all these other institutions are developed over the years. And, you know, the one thing, the one thing where sanctions were temporarily placed Russia was, of course, about the Jews, the Jackson-Vanic Amendment, forcing the Soviets to permit emigration of Russian Jews to Israel.
Starting point is 05:23:52 That's what caused the first set of sanctions and the only set of sanctions, and that was lifted. So, clearly, what we've been told about the Cold War of the U.S., let me could say where the U.S. fought the Soviets and Korea and Vietnam. I said, well, sure. You know, the U.S. is going to fight any empire that's growing that large. It didn't matter what the ideology was. Yeah, they're worried about being kept out of the trade deals. That has nothing to do with Marxism or Bolshevism or Lenin. I mean, Nixon went over and supported the Chinese right in the middle of his mass slaughter of Chinese people, they both in the greatly forward and then the cultural revolution afterward. They exploded their first nuclear weapon in 1964.
Starting point is 05:24:46 No one got upset. Iran has peaceful nuclear power, and then they should be bombed back into the stone age. Not nuclear weapons, nuclear power, two very different things. The world is completely different when your opponent is on the left of the political spectrum versus on the right, vaguely speaking. the communists got, you know, the communists were backed by the U.S. I think the only really until the empire was threatening to get too large for the American mind to handle.
Starting point is 05:25:24 And they couldn't allow all of Asia to come under, so then why would they need the U.S. then? But that has nothing to do with ideology. And this is at the same time Marxists are taking over American universities, you're taking over things like psychology. You know, so talk about the anti-communist West is absolutely laughable. And I think we're just getting into some of that stuff right here. These had left Russia.
Starting point is 05:25:51 Others in the opposite direction left America to return. They were the revenants. All of them revolutionaries, some from long ago, others of recent date, who dreamed of finally building and consolidating the new world of universal happiness. We talked about it. We talked about it in Chapter 14. They were flocking across the ocean from the port of New York to the east or from the port of San Francisco in the direction of the west. Some former subjects of the Russian Empire, others purely and simply American citizens, enthusiasts who even didn't know the Russian language. Listen, you can't overestimate
Starting point is 05:26:29 the intellectual side of this. How many American and British intellectuals really thought that the Soviet Union was the wave of the future, even under Stalin, especially after the victory in World War II, he had such a tremendous reputation. All of his debt, all Stalin's debt was canceled. Can you imagine? Capital is canceling debts on the Soviet Empire. So you had enthusiasm. Yeah, they didn't know anything, but they had all of their very idiosyncratic understandings. what they thought Bolshevism was.
Starting point is 05:27:07 It's got to be better than the U.S. And that went straight up until, of course, the Vietnam War where the U.S. was struggling, although it's self-imposed. And maybe, I don't know, maybe the Soviet system is better. Without bothering to mention that the U.S. never had sanctions
Starting point is 05:27:26 on trading with the Soviet Union. Who was then sending that same stuff to North Vietnam? And the only victims there were, of course, American boys and the South Vietnamese where the ARVN held on and fought to the very last man
Starting point is 05:27:42 while the U.S. pulled the rug out from under them in, you know, 74, 75. It's tragic. And I love how he says, a new world of universal happiness. That's exactly in some cases how it was Bertrand Russell and people like that, although he went back and forth on that
Starting point is 05:28:00 issue. A lot of people went back and forth on that issue. both under Lenin and under Stalin. It's, you know, you can't really overstated. I thought it was just a faction many years ago. No, no, it was a huge portion of the American intelligentsia that saw the Soviet Union this way. Well, remember, Walter Durante, the New York Times went to Ukraine during the Holodomar, and he said, oh, they're hungry, but they're not starving.
Starting point is 05:28:33 So this experiment must go forward. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, yeah, that's certainly not the only time they did it. The New York Times did that in China too. If I'm not mistaken, I think he finally had his Pulitzer Prize posthumously taken away for that. I'm not 100% sure. There was a move among Ukrainians to do that. I don't know if it actually went through or not. In 1919, A.V. Turkova Williams wrote in a book published then in England, quote,
Starting point is 05:29:08 There are a few Russians among the Bolshevik leaders. Few men imbued with Russian culture and concerned with the interests of the Russian people. In addition to foreign citizens, Bolshevism recruited immigrants who had spent many years outside the borders. Some had never been to Russia before. There were many Jews among them. They spoke Russian badly. the nation of which they had become masters was foreign to them, and moreover, they behaved like invaders in the conquered country, end quote. And if, in Tsarist Russia, Jews were excluded from all official posts, if schools and state service were closed to them, on the other hand, in the Soviet Republic, all committees and commissariats were filled with Jews. Often they exchanged their Jewish name for a Russian name, but this masquerade did not deceive anyone. Well, it may have deceived a few people, but, you know, the number of people who, you know, we're writing about this at the time, and, you know, we're going to get into some of that now. I mean, we know, you know, congressmen, senators who started to realize this, back at 1919, I guess you could talk a little bit like that in the, in the U.S., and in Western Europe.
Starting point is 05:30:20 Of course, today, if you talk about it, you go to prison, especially in the EU. But, yeah, that paragraph, just what you just read from Williams, that's precisely, and, you know, she was a witness. That's it. That's the summary of everything we've been talking about. That same year, 1919, at the Senate hearings of the Overman Commission and Illinois University professor P.B. Dennis, who arrived in Russia in 1917, declared that in his opinion, quote, an opinion that matched that of any Americans, Englishmen, Frenchmen. These people deployed in Russia
Starting point is 05:31:00 in extreme cruelty and ferocity in their repression against the bourgeoisie. The word is used here without any pejorative nuance in its primary sense, the inhabitants of the boroughs. Or, among those who carried out murderous propaganda in the trenches and in the rear, there were those who, one or two years before 1917 and 1918, still lived in New York.
Starting point is 05:31:24 Yeah, in Brooklyn. Yeah, what Solzhenitin is kind of correcting here, the definition of a proletarian and a bourgeois was never stable. The bourgeois Z was whoever the Soviet said was one. Certainly, you know, a former organized in a collective, you know, not a collective, in the commune, which is an ancient institution, is not a member of the bourgeoisie, but when they were being slaughtered, of course, they had to have been. So they stretched the definition. And I guess really indirectly, people like Schiff or any of the Soviet bankers were
Starting point is 05:32:16 considered proletarians. Remember, the party was the vanguard of the proletariat. and they were there to set up the dictatorship of the proletariat. Therefore, the dictatorship in the Soviet Union was the working class, the working man, regardless of who actually made it up. And it was a level of just self-deceit that is extraordinary. And I don't want to act like there aren't plenty of professors who still don't buy, you know, who still
Starting point is 05:32:54 think that there are plenty of them I think that's kind of going away I mean they know that that's not true now but that was you know the dictatorship of the proletarian murdered people who were part of the bourgeoisie
Starting point is 05:33:10 no matter what class they were in it didn't make any difference it was whoever their enemies were now the original definition of bourgeoisie is someone who lived in a city but it came to mean the merchant classes and it came to mean those who became wealthy that way either in banking or in trading
Starting point is 05:33:34 so it's hilarious that you know the Jews enemy was the Jews in truth that's what the Jews were but they can never say that it's almost a mockery of language and that's why the propaganda had to be so severe and the violence had to be so severe, and people who were pointing this out had to go to the camps to make sure that they didn't have to hear it again. The last thing I wanted to do was hear how ridiculous the use of these words was.
Starting point is 05:34:04 In February 1920, Winston Churchill spoke in the pages of the Sunday Herald. In an article entitled Zionism Against Bolshevism, Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People, he wrote, Today we see this company of outstanding personalities emerging from clandestinity from the basements of the great cities of Europe and America who grabbed by the hair and seized by the throat the Russian people and established itself as the undisputed mistress
Starting point is 05:34:30 of the immense Russian empire. Keep in mind here with Churchill. He was always a phylo-Semite. I love how he used the word the basement, like the basement dweller. um we still use that with you know your mom's basement or something like you know making fun of somebody um he was heavily in debt as was his father to various jewish bankers um but he was a um he supported zionism not bolivism so he thought he had a way out that way but Winston
Starting point is 05:35:09 Churchill says something like this um and he talked about the Jews in this regard all the time back then, you know it's true. He'd be the last one to try to bespurch the name of Jews. So he claimed he was, you know, they should be Zionists, not Bolshevists, but they were in the USSR, basements of the great cities of Europe and America. I mean, you know, that's pretty funny. There are many known names among these people who have returned from beyond the ocean. Here is M. Grusenberg, who had previously lived in England, where he had met Sun Yitzin,
Starting point is 05:35:50 then lived for a time in the United States in Chicago where he had organized a school for the immigrants, and we find him in 1919, General Counsel of the R.SFSR in Mexico, a country on which the revolutionaries found the great hopes Trotsky would turn up there. Then in the same year, he sat in the central organs of the common turn. He took service in Scandinavia, Sweden, He was arrested in Scotland. He resurfaced in China in 1923 under the name of Borodin with a whole squad of spies. He was the principal political advisor to the executive committee of the Qumintang, a role which enabled him to promote the career of Mao Zetong and Zhu Lai.
Starting point is 05:36:34 However, having suspected Borodin-Gruzenberg of engaging in subversive work, Shanghai Sheck expelled him from China in 1927. what was that like just that's like a meme right there well you got kicked out of another country how did he get kicked how does a revolution how bad does a revolutionary have to be to get kicked out of china by jenghai shek by jenghai shek returning to the USSR he passed unharmed the year 1937 during the war with germany we find him editor-in-chief of the soviet information office alongside Drizzolysovsky, he will be executed in 1951, about the Bolshevik Jews executed in the 1930s, the Infra chapter 19.
Starting point is 05:37:25 Yeah, that's fun. Don't forget, the Kuman Tang back then, it wasn't like the nationalist party that fled to Taiwan. At the time, prior to World War II, in the 20s, it had a left wing and it had a right wing. It was a huge party. So you can have support from Marxists and nationalists at the same time, since Japan was the enemy. Of course, that's going to change much later. Among them also, Samuel Gerski, who became one of the leaders of Belarus, arrested in 1938, he served the sentence of deportation.
Starting point is 05:38:02 He is the father of the late Emma Gerski, who prematurely disappeared and who did not follow the same path as his progenitor, far from it. Let us also mention Solomon Slepich, an influential member of the common turn, he returned to Russia by Vladivostok, where he took part in assassinations. He then went to China to try to attract Sun Yat Sen in an alliance with communism. His son Vladimir would have to tear himself, not without a clash, from the trap into which his father had fallen in his quest for the radiant future of communism. Stories like this, and some even more paradoxical, there are hundreds of them. Yeah, Sunyat Sen was somewhat of a liberal. He certainly was anti-royalist, but he was no Marxist. But this is kind of like, you know, if someone, I'm from New Jersey. I'm from Union County, New Jersey. If somehow, because we have similar political views, a guy from the Congo shows up and says, oh, you know, come back, we need you to run our agriculture department.
Starting point is 05:39:07 and I get there and I have no idea what I'm doing I don't know the language I don't know the all I know is that I'm I guess I must be a proletarian now and of course they ran it into the ground it was all about them sucking it dry everything anything they any value they could
Starting point is 05:39:25 uh not having created it themselves of course um and that's what this is like you know just dragging people Akerski is from Brooklyn you know um and and then you know doing doing all of this because you know say this is outrageous you can get these guys solely for being Jewish leftists and then putting them wherever sticking them whenever or whatever office you need them for regardless of the fact that they
Starting point is 05:39:58 know zero about it demolishers of the bourgeois what unquote Jewish culture also turned up Among them, the collaborators of S. Demonstein in the European Commissariat, the S.R. Dubkovsky, Agorski, already mentioned, and also Cantor, Shapiro, Kaplan, former emigrant anarchists who had returned from London and New York. The objective of the commissariat was to create a center for the Jewish communist movement. It seems redundant. In August 1918, the new communist newspaper in Yiddish, Emis, the truth, announced, quote, the proletarian revolution began in the street of the Jews. A campaign was immediately launched against the Edders and the Talmud Torah. In June 1919, countersigned by Essergerzky and Stalin, the dissolution of the Central Bureau of the Jewish Communities was
Starting point is 05:40:53 proclaimed, which represented the conservative fraction of Judaism, the one that had not sided with the Bolsheviks. It is nonetheless true that the socialist Jews were not attracted primarily to the Bolsheviks. Now, however, where were the other parties what had become of them? What allowed the Bolshevik party to occupy an exclusive position was the disintegration of the old Jewish political parties. The Bun, the Zionist socialist, and the Zionists of the Poli had split up and their leaders had joined the victor's camp by denying the ideals of democratic socialism, such as, M. Race, M. Frumkina Esther, A. Weinstein, M. Litvanov. Yeah, we talked about this a few weeks ago. Their disagreements were fairly minor.
Starting point is 05:41:42 They were all Marxists at one form or another. You know, the Mensovics, for the most part, were. So, you know, saying, oh, just, you know, okay, we disagree on a few issues, but I'm still going to support you guys. And then, of course, I get some crazy, you know, high office for some reason. As a result, yeah, it was too tempting. But this is exactly the same group of people as Stalin was going to get rid of. Is it possible? Even the Bund, this extremely belligerent organization to which even Lenin's positions were not suitable, which showed itself so intransigent on the principle of the cultural
Starting point is 05:42:19 and national autonomy of the Jews? Well, yes, even the Boond. Quote, after the establishment of Soviet power, the leadership of the Boond and Russia split into two groups in 1920, the right, which is in, which is in its majority, emigrated, and the left, which liquidated the Bund in 1921, and adhered in large parts of the Bolshevik Party. Among the former members of the Boon, we can cite the irremovable David Zaslovsky, the one who for decades would put his pen at the service of Stalin, he would be responsible for stigmatizing Mandelstem and Pasternak. Also, the Lepleski
Starting point is 05:42:56 brothers, Israel and Grigori, one from the outset, would become an agent of the Cheka and stay there for the rest of his life, the other would occupy a high position in the NKVD in 1920. Then would be Deputy Commissar of the People, President of the Small Sovnarcum of the RSFSR, then Deputy Attorney General of the USSR, 1934, 1939. He would be a victim of repression in 1939. Solomon Kotler immediately promoted First Secretary of Orthborg of Vologa, of Tavar, of the Regional Committee of Oral. Oral, or also Abraham Heifitz, he returned to Russia after February 1917, joined the Presidium of the Bunn's main committee in Ukraine,
Starting point is 05:43:45 was a member of the Central Committee of the Bund. In October, 1917, he was already for the Bolsheviks end. In 1919, he figured in the leading group of the common turn. You know, I guess maybe you could see Stalin's point of view. Yes, he did purge the party, but he wasn't anti-Jewish. But this army of Jews that they
Starting point is 05:44:06 got from all over the world, they had no right to be there. They were good to fill in during the revolution immediately afterwards. But as far as building a modern socialist state, they were not suited to it at all. Same thing for the military command. This is
Starting point is 05:44:22 exactly why Stalin purged the party. And because they were almost exclusively Jews, it looks like this is an anti-Semitic repression. So you're a scholar writing in the U.S. in the 70s or 80s, and you have a choice to make. Do I am I, will I just be forced to admit that Bolshevism was Jewish
Starting point is 05:44:50 or do I just say Stalin's an anti-Semite? And of course, they all chose the latter. you one of the two, that he deliberately chose Jews to get rid of. No, it was nothing but Jews to get rid of. They were the Revolutionary Corps. You see, these people had no, none of them had any right at all to be in the positions they were given. You know, there's only so many Jews in the world.
Starting point is 05:45:15 So many Jewish leftists in the world. And these guys went from place to place to place, wherever they were needed. You know, they weren't statesmen, the very opposite of that. And Stalin said, well, that might be okay. in 1919, but it's not okay in 1939. To the leftists of the Bund joined the left of the Zionist socialist and the Serp. Those entered the Communist Party as early as 1919. The left wing of the Poles-Zion did the same in 1921.
Starting point is 05:45:46 In 1926, according to an internal census, there were up to 2,500 former members of the Bund in the party. It goes without saying that many, later on, fell under the blade. quote, under Stalin, the majority of them were victims of ferocious persecutions. Beekerman explains, quote, the Bund, which had assumed the role of representative of the Jewish working masses, joined the Bolsheviks in its most important and active part. Jewish working masses, yeah. In his memoirs, David Asbel tries to explain the reasons for this ascension by reflecting
Starting point is 05:46:25 on the example of his uncle Aaron Isaacovich Weinstein, an influential member of the boon that we mentioned above, quote, he had understood before all others that his party, as well as the other socialist parties, were condemned. He had understood also another thing to survive and continue to defend the interests of the Jews would be possible only by joining the Bolsheviks. I mean, from the Jewish point of view, I mean, strictly from the Jewish point of you. You could understand. They had a legislation that banned any negative reference, any insult to the Jews, let alone attacks or physical violence. And they were the major core of defeating Hitler in just a few years. So if you're a Jew, clearly, the USSR is that's, you know, they were, they were gods to these people. And it was only much later that they came out with a theory that Stalin was anti-Semitic. He was surrounded by Jews.
Starting point is 05:47:32 His daughters married Jews. I mean, it was, it's absolutely absurd. And, of course, we're going to get into that much later in this book. You will explain in detail. Solomon was not anti-Jewish whatsoever. He was no different than Lenin or Trotsky in any respect. But from the Jewish national point of view, it just made sense. This was the Messiah starting to show himself.
Starting point is 05:47:59 For how many of them the reasons, one, survive, two, continue to defend the interests of Jews were decisive. Tentatively, both objectives were achieved. It will note also that after October, the other socialist parties of the SR and the Mensheviks, who, as we know, had a large number of Jews in their ranks and at their heads, did not stand up against Bolshevism either. Scarcely aware of the fact that the Bolsheviks had dismissed this constituent assembly, which they had called for, they withdrew, hesitated, divided themselves in their turn, sometimes proclaiming their neutrality in the Civil War. Other times their intention to temporize. As for the SR, they downright opened to the Bolsheviks a portion of the Eastern Front and tried to demoralize the rear of the whites.
Starting point is 05:48:46 Yeah, so you had Jews in any real leftist movement from moderate liberals all the way to all the way to Bolsheviks. And those who fled the country, well, there were some who did so. They went with Stalin. I'm sorry, they went with Trotsky. And, you know, during the purges of what they thought was of Jews. or they became what we call neocons today they ended up being so opposed to Stalin there's any of these big anti-Semite
Starting point is 05:49:30 that we needed some golem like the U.S. to hammer away at them. They eventually became that front, that group of people. For a long time, I didn't think that there was a direct link between those two but there actually is it just eventually you know it started off just being anti-Stalin he's an anti-Semite we have to
Starting point is 05:49:52 and then it just coalesced into this the Soviet Union is rotten so long as it's a Stalinist system and the U.S. seems to be fighting it in Korea and Vietnam therefore the U.S. now is our best bet but we also find Jews
Starting point is 05:50:11 among the leaders of the resistance to the Bolsheviks in 1918. Out of the 26 signatures on the open letter of prisoners on the affair of the Workers' Congress written at Taganka Prison, no less of a quarter, or Jewish. The Bolsheviks were pitiless toward the Mensheviks of this kind. In the summer of 1918, R. Abramovich, an important Menshevik leader, avoided execution only by means of a letter addressed to Lenin from an Austrian prison by Friedrich Adler, the one who had shot down the Austrian Prime Minister in 1916 and who had been reprieved. Others, too, were stoic.
Starting point is 05:50:46 Grigory Binstock, Simon Weinstein, arrested several times. They were eventually expelled from the country. Yeah, the confrontation with Stalin didn't mean that they were all socialists of one kind or another. They were all leftists of one kind or another. This wasn't a principled stand whatsoever. They were, you know, there was facts. There's always going to be factionalism. Some decided us to make the jump and not worry about it.
Starting point is 05:51:13 Others said, you know, Stalin might not be in our interest, after all. Because, again, people confuse the purge of the old Bolsheviks with the confuse with the purge of Jews. The fact that the old Bolsheviks were Jews. But it goes down to, it comes down to Stalin's motivation. No, it was to, you know, these half-revolutionaries from, You know, New York City, or from the, you know, the basements of Paris, as he says, they're not competent to run a country. They may be competent to create a revolution and defend it, but not to run. Same thing for his purge of the military.
Starting point is 05:51:58 These were revolutionary, civil war type leaders. No, no, no. If there's going to be a war, there has to be a meritocracy here to some extent. So it had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish, but people get confused either deliberately or indelibly because the old Bolsheviks were almost all Jews. But that's why the purges occurred. In February 1921, in Petrograd, the Mensheviks certainly supported the deceived and hungry workers. They pushed them to protest and strike, but without any real conviction. And they lacked audacity to take the lead of the Kronstadt insurrection. However, this did not
Starting point is 05:52:37 in any way protect them from repression. We also know a lot of Mensheviks who joined the Bolsheviks, who exchanged one party label for another. They were Boris Mogadov. He became head of the political section of the 10th Army, then Donbos, secretary of provincial committees of Poltova, Samara, instructor on the central committee. Abram de Borin, a true defector,
Starting point is 05:53:01 he rapidly climbed the echelons of a career of red professor, stuffing our heads with dialectical materialism, and historical materialism. Alexander Gweckbarg, member of the Soviet Revolutionary Committee, public prosecutor at the trial of the Ministers of Kolchek, member of the College of the Commissariat for Justice,
Starting point is 05:53:20 then president of the Little Sav Narkham. Some of them held out for some time until their arrests, such as I, Laikovetsky, Meiski, the others, in great numbers, were reduced very early to silence from the trial of the imaginary unified Menshevik Bureau
Starting point is 05:53:37 of 1931, where we find Gimer Sukhanov, who was the designer of the tactics of the executive committee in March 1917. A huge raid was organized throughout the union to apprehend them. There were defectors in the SR. Lakov-Lifchitz, for example, vice president of the Sharnagov-checa in 1919, then Karkov, then president of the Kiev Cheka, and, as a at the height of a rapid career, vice president of the Ukrainian GPU. There were anarchist communists, the most famous being Lazar Kogan,
Starting point is 05:54:16 special section of the armies, assistants to the chief of the army of the Veshika in 1930, senior official of the Gulag, and in 1931, chief of the White Sea shipyard of the NKVD. There are extremely sinuous biographies. Ilya Kit Vitenko, a lieutenant in the Austrian army, taken prisoner by the Russians and from the moment the Bolsheviks are in power takes his ranks at the Cheka.
Starting point is 05:54:43 Good boy and then in the army and in the 1930s was one of the reformers of the Red Army and then in the whole for 20 years. You know, I don't want to be repetitive, but these biographies are laughable. You know, if you were a leftist Jewish professor, say, at Rutgers in 1920, all you had to do was fly to the USSR and you could be a dictator of a little section you could run a bureau you could even run the army or a part of the army
Starting point is 05:55:15 and how do you go from an anarchist to being the head of the gulag these people didn't have principles you know it was you know it was Jewish interests primarily I think anarchists are kind of ridiculous the way that they are in the U.S. anyway you know, most anarchists are communists.
Starting point is 05:55:37 There's a handful of others who are more individualists. But it's real, and I've noticed, and I have some personal experience with this, the anarchists in academia, they run their departments with an iron fist. I'll mention any names, but he, they'll, you know, anarchy is just a, just this negative attack against what they think the society is, against white people against what they consider a white nomination and it's the same thing here you know they're anarchists for a while
Starting point is 05:56:10 and then when oh my god all these jobs are opening up he ends up running the gulag my god and the shipyard what the hell do he know about that you could do whatever you wanted if you were a Jewish leftist at the time
Starting point is 05:56:22 the sky was the limit you know who knows what job you can get if you went over there and what about the Zionists Let us remember in 1906 they had posited and proclaimed that they could not stay away from the Russians' fight against the yoke of the autocracy, and they had actively engaged in said battle. This did not prevent them in May 1918, when the yoke still weighed so heavily, to declare that, in matters of Russian domestic policy, they would henceforth be neutral, very obviously in the hope of avoiding the risk that the Bolsheviks would accuse them of being counter-revolutionaries. And at first, it worked. Throughout the year, 1918, and during the first six months in 1919, the Bolsheviks left them alone.
Starting point is 05:57:07 In the summer of 1918, they were able to hold the all-Russian Congress of Jewish communities in Moscow, and hundreds of their communities had their Palestinian week. Their newspapers appeared freely, and a youth club, the heraldets, was created. But in the spring of 1919, local authorities undertook to ban the Zionist press here and there, and in the autumn of 1919, a few prominent figures were accused. accused of espionage for the benefit of England. In the spring of 1920, the Zionist organized a pan-Russian conference in Moscow. Result, all the participants, 90 people, were interned in the Buturka prison.
Starting point is 05:57:46 Some were condemned, but the penalty was not applied following the intervention of a delegation of Jewish syndicates from America. Yeah. The Vesheka Presidium declared that the Zionist organization was countered, revolutionary and its activity was now forbidden in Soviet Russia. From this moment, began the area of clandestinity for the Zionists. This whole thing, the deception has so many layers. Sometimes it breaks a lot of people's brain.
Starting point is 05:58:18 We had the Balfour Declaration, which was done already. Therefore, Britain was dedicated to the Zionist idea. But Britain also backed the Red Armies whenever they could. allowed the Tsar to be murdered. Britain was certainly no enemy and was investing in the USSR, clearly no enemy of Marxism. So for ideological reasons,
Starting point is 05:58:42 they had to act like being a spy for England was a terrible thing, when in reality, so much of the revolutionary movement came from there. You know, certainly prior to 1905, London was the headquarters of the revolutionary movement. And I love the fact that the Americans, the Jews have so much power that the Jews in America can commute sentences in the USSR, just with a protest letter going back and forth.
Starting point is 05:59:13 So that means the Jews knew precisely what was going on in the Soviet Union. They knew exactly what was happening to people. And then, but don't forget later, Zionism became the official ideology of the Soviet Union. It was Stalin founded the state of Israel. Stalin's people, Gromiko and others, and the UN, defended the foundation of the state of Israel. It wasn't until much later that, you know, the U.S. gave them a much better deal than the Soviets could. And it was a different story then. But for a while, for a couple of years after 1948, this was Stalin's project, especially after Bureau Bidjdan failed.
Starting point is 05:59:55 So just, you know, it's almost like we have to map out the deceit. on a piece of paper. It's so, it's so, uh, it's so absurd. M. Heifitz, who is a thoughtful man, reminds us very well of this. Did the October coup not coincide exactly with the Balfour Declaration, which laid the foundations of an independent Jewish state? Well, what happened? A part of the new Jewish generation followed the path of Herzl and Jabotinsky, while the other, bigger, yielded to temptation and swelled the ranks of the Lenin Trotsky-Stalin band, exactly what Churchill feared. Hurtsle's way then appeared distant, unreal, while that of Trotsky and Bagritsky
Starting point is 06:00:35 enabled the Jews to gain immediate stature and immediately become a nation in Russia, equal and right and even privileged. Yeah, the British controlled, you know, Palestine. The chances of them, other than a massive invasion in war with Britain, of creating a state was out of the question. That's not going to be permitted until the, you know, when the British Empire fell apart after World War II. Also defector, of course, and not least,
Starting point is 06:01:02 Lev Mechlus of the Poles Zion. His career is well known, and Stalin's secretariat in the editorial board of the Pravda at the head of the Red Army's political sector in the state defense commissariat and commissioner of state control. It was he who made our landing in Crimea in 1942 fail. At the height of his career,
Starting point is 06:01:22 in the org borough of the Central Committee, his ashes are sealed in the wall of the Kremlin. Of course, there was an important part of the Jews of Russia who did not adhere to Bolshevism. Neither the rabbis, the lecturers, nor the great doctors, nor a whole mass of good people fell into the arms of the Bolsheviks. Turkova writes in the same passage in her book a few lines later, quote, The predominance of the Jews among the Soviet leaders put to despair those of the Russian Jews who, despite the cruel iniquities suffered under the Tsarist regime, regarded Russia as the motherland,
Starting point is 06:01:57 and led the common life of all Russian intelligentsia refusing in communion with her any collaboration with the Bolsheviks. But at the time, they had no opportunity of making themselves heard publicly, and these pages are naturally filled not with their names, but with those of the conquerors, those who have bridled the course of events. You know, it's not unfair to say that before the Civil War started, the Bolsheviks could count on maybe 2% of the entire old Russian Empire's support. Top heavy with Jews, no doubt. But that means that there was plenty of Jews outside of it.
Starting point is 06:02:36 But the question is, why were they outside of it? They were all on the left. They all hated the monarchy. They all had pretty much the same agenda, which is why it was so easy for so many of them to jump ship and join them, even if they didn't agree on everything. It gave them immediate power, immediate privilege, and domination over Guillaume, who they hated.
Starting point is 06:03:01 This, it isn't like that it changed them. They were always like this. Now they have the power to act on it. Two illustrious terrorist acts perpetrated by Jewish arms against the Bolsheviks in 1918 occupy a special place. The assassination of Yuritsky by Leonid Kinnigisser and the attack on Lenin by Fannie Kaplan. Here, too, though, the other way around was expressed a vocation of the Jewish people to be always among the first. Perhaps the blows fired at Lenin were rather the result of
Starting point is 06:03:32 SR intentions. But as for Kennegeser, born of hereditary nobility by his grandfather, he entered the school of officer cadets in 1917. By the way, he was in friendly relations with Sergei Yesonan. I admit full well, Mark Aldenov's explanation, in the face of the Russian people in history, he was moved by the desire to oppose the names of Yuritsky and Zinoviev with another Jewish name. This is the feeling he expresses in a note transmitted to his sister on the eve of the attack, in which he says he wants to avenge the peace of Brestlovak, that he is ashamed to see the Jews contribute to install the Bolsheviks in power
Starting point is 06:04:13 and also avenge the execution of his companion of the school of artillery at the Checca of Petrograd. Well, that treaty was a whole, separate matter. You know, they gave away huge chunks of Western, or the old Western Russian Empire to the Germans. It caused a lot, regardless of your background, it caused a huge amount of, it made them even less popular than they were before. And it wasn't until World War II that, of course, Stalin got it back. It should be noted, however, that recent studies have revealed that these two attacks were perpetrated under suspicious circumstances. There was strong presumption that Fannie Kaplan did not shoot Lenin at all, but was apprehended to
Starting point is 06:04:56 close the case, the convenient culprit, by chance. There is also a hypothesis that the Bolshevik authorities themselves would have created the necessary conditions for Can I Gisser to fire his shot. This I strongly doubt, for what provocation with the Bolsheviks have sacrificed their beloved child, President of the Checa. one thing however is troubling how is it that later in full red terror when that when was attained the force by force of arms through the entire country thousands of innocent innocent hostages totally unconnected with the affair the whole kennigesser family was freed from prison and allowed to emigrate we do not recognize here the bolshevik claw or would it be the intervention of a very long arm to the highest ranking soviet instances A recent publication tells us that the relatives and friends of El Kanagissar had even drawn up an armed attack plan against the check of Petrograd to free their prisoner
Starting point is 06:05:55 and that all, as soon as they were arrested, were released and remained in Petrograd without being disturbed. Such clemency on the part of the Bolshevik authorities may be explained by their concern to avoid ill feelings with the influential Jewish circles in Petrograd. The Kanagissar family had kept its Judaic faith and, Leonid's mother, Rosalia Eduardovna, declared during an interrogation that her son had fired on Yuritsky because he had turned away from Judaism. But here is a Jewish name that has not yet obtained the deserved celebrity. Alexander Abramovich Valenken, hero the clandestine struggle against the Bolsheviks. He was a volunteer in the hussars at the age of 17. In 1914, he was decorated
Starting point is 06:06:40 four times with the cross of St. George, promoted to officer then on the eve of the revolution, he became captain of cavalry. In 1918, he joined the clandestine organization union for the defense of the homeland of liberty. He was apprehended by the Cheka at the time when, as the organization had been discovered, he was delaying the destruction of compromising documents. Focused, intelligent, energetic, uncompromising toward the Bolsheviks, he infused in others the spirit of resistance. Executed by the Bolsheviks, it goes without saying. The information about him came to us from his comrade in arms in the underground in 1918, and also from his cellmate in 1919,
Starting point is 06:07:19 Vyodorovich Clementev, a captain in the Russian army. These fighters against Bolshevism, whatever their motivations, we venerate their memory as Jews. We regret that there were so few, as were too few the white forces during the Civil War. Now, he is one of the exceptions that we've talked about a few times. He saw Russia as being very good to the Jews, as he had every reason to believe. Either was drafted or joined the army, went up the ranks, and was treated very well.
Starting point is 06:08:00 He became a patriot of a sort. And so when the Bolfix took over, there was no way he was going to, especially after the treaty. You know, how many men died to take that area? to push the Germans out and now we're giving it away I thought I thought our side won you know but even without that
Starting point is 06:08:22 there were a handful of Jews that were that were legitimate patriots and there's always going to be exceptions so everywhere we go there's a few you know Jews like that we have them in this country he didn't convert as far as I know
Starting point is 06:08:39 but but his military experience brought him to a very patriotic point of view. And I have the feeling that it was the treaty that that kind of set him off as a firm enemy of the Leninists. So this is just one of the exceptions. We mentioned that. We haven't put any name to it.
Starting point is 06:09:03 Well, this is a name we could put to it. Awesome. All right. Natural break. We will come back in a couple of days with part 68. or is this 68 no this is 67 part 68 this is unbelievable all right as i do at the end of every episode please go to the show notes and please go to the description in the videos and all the links to how you can donate to dr johnson are there please show him how much you appreciate all the work
Starting point is 06:09:33 he's doing here and um as i always do um i thank you dr johnson i'm learning as much as the audiences and all of this. Well, I'm having a great time. This has been a great idea and a great experience. As you see, a lot of this is off the top of my head because I know way too much about this. I need to stop myself or else we should be going for hours and hours and hours. And it's just been got so many paper ideas and book ideas are coming out of this,
Starting point is 06:10:03 as if I need another book to work on. But this has been a blast for me, too. But unfortunately, I do need financial support from our friends. And so do you. I do. But, yeah, this is, I could be sitting here reading this by myself and people would get a lot out of it. But I think what makes this invaluable and what is going to make this timeless and something that people will be watching and listening to probably 20, 25 years from now and beyond is the fact. that you're here to provide all this background.
Starting point is 06:10:42 And, you know, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for doing this with me. Oh, you're more than welcome. Talk to you in a couple days. All right, my friend. Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to part 68 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison.
Starting point is 06:10:58 Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? You know, I need to get more sleep. I work a long day, very intellectually taxing day. and then I go like, you know, watch videos about cassowaries for like three hours or whether or not an emu can kill you. Is that what the kids mean by doom scrolling? I don't think that's it. But if I didn't do that, I'd get far more sleep than I do presently.
Starting point is 06:11:31 Yeah, I have a tendency to fall down the history. of this certain weapon like, you know, like, oh, this Peter Peter 32, 1905 or 1908 and then I just start I have to, I watch one video and I have to watch every single one of them.
Starting point is 06:11:55 Yeah, yeah, I've done that. Doom scrolling is not about anything in particular. Right. It's just about, you know, usually the shorts or the TikTok shorts and going through them because they're so brief. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 06:12:09 Yeah, I know that, but, but it feels like it, though. It feels like that's what they meant, reading about cassowaries or, you know, all these little videos for whether or not, you know, they can kill you, but, um, um, didn't the Australians fight a actual, I think the Australians fought a war against them, the great emu war. Yeah, well, I'm thinking about the cassowary, the actual living dinosaur. Okay. you know um yeah so so i don't think that's it but but i know if i met one i know exactly what
Starting point is 06:12:44 to do well that that that's the benefit of it i mean i'm i'm sure that um i'm sure we're safe here but you never know what's going to escape from a zoo or yeah they're in zoos an arab prince's house that's right i try to mike thysons house Right. Pick it up where we left off last time. A very prosaic and entirely new phenomena reinforced a victory of the Bolsheviks. These occupied important positions from which many advantages resulted, notably the enjoyment in both capitals of vacant apartments freed by their owners, former aristocrats, now on the run. In these apartments could live a whole tributary flock of the former pail of settlement.
Starting point is 06:13:34 This was a real exodus. GA Landau writes, The Jews have climbed the stairs of power and occupied a few summits. From there, it is normal that they brought, as they do everywhere, in any environment, their relatives, friends, companions from their youth. A perfectly natural process. The granting of functions to people who are known, trusted, protected, and simply begging for your favors.
Starting point is 06:13:58 This process multiplied the number of Jews in the Soviet state apparatus. We will not say how many Zinoviev's wife, how many Zinoviev's wife, Lilina, thus brought parents and relatives, nor how Zinoviev distributed positions to his own. They are the focus, but the influx not to have been noticed at the moment was enormous and concerns tens of thousands of people. The people transmigrated en masse from Odessa to Moscow. It is known that Trotsky himself gratified his father, whom he moderately loved, of a Sofgas in the suburbs of Moscow. This is how they dominate the Ivy Leaks, for example, and why the Ivy Leaks have this unearned reputation of the places where geniuses go.
Starting point is 06:14:48 Because they generally only hire each other. They dominate these, many departments. And they will bring in, especially at the teaching, you know, faculty. level, they'll make sure to bring in one after another, after another, after another. You know, the more elite the university is, the more corruption you're going to find, the more you're going to find people like Angela Davis or Maya Angelou or any of these people. And I did have something on this many years ago about just this endless self-promotion. You know, in the IQ ranking of the world, Israel's is like 44th or something.
Starting point is 06:15:36 Russia's eighth. Iran is seventh, depending on who you look at. You know, it isn't there necessarily their IQ level intelligence. It's their ability to network and no one can network like them. You're not going to win in a network war against the Jews. These migrations can be followed throughout biographies. So that of David, not to be confused with Mark Asbel. In 1919, still a kid, he left Chemigoff, where he was born to come to Moscow, where his two aunts already lived.
Starting point is 06:16:13 He first lived in the house of one of them, Ida, a wealthy merchant of the first guild, whose husband had returned from America. and then with the other, Leolia, who was housed in the first house of the Soviets, the National, with all the best of the Soviet Union. Their neighbor Ulrich, is that Lars, who would later become... Yeah, that's what I thought of. He is a Jew, by the way.
Starting point is 06:16:38 He is a Jew. No shock there. Their neighbor Ulrich, who would later become famous, said jokingly, why don't we open a synagogue in the National where only Jews live. A whole Soviet elite then left St. Petersburg to settle in the second house of the Soviet, the metropolis, in the third, the seminary, Bodhemsky Street, in the fourth,
Starting point is 06:17:01 Mochavaya Wozzejanka Street, and in the fifth, Chermet Tieski Street. These tenants received from a special distribution center abundant parcels, caviar, cheese, butter, smoke sturgeon, were never lacking. on their tables. We are in 1920. Everything was special. Designed especially for the new elite, kindergartens, schools, clubs, libraries. In 1921 to 22, the year of the murderous famine of the Volga and the help of TARA. In their model school, the canteen was fed by the ARA Foundation and served American breakfast, rice pudding, hot chocolate, white bread, and fried eggs. And no one remembered that the day before, it was vociferated in the classrooms that the bourgeois should be hung high
Starting point is 06:17:53 on the lantern. The children in the neighboring houses hated those of the Soviet houses and at the first opportunity went after them. Well, what have I been saying from the beginning? What have I been saying for 20 years about what the Soviet Union was and what Marxism truly is? The ARA refers to the American Relief Association, which Woodrow Wilson sent it to action to feed the elite of the USSR. So what we have is that you have all of this housing suddenly becoming available because their non-Jewish occupants have been kicked out, and then they're now brought in. And they seem to have no problem with it.
Starting point is 06:18:41 This is perfectly acceptable. And this has everything to do. This is why when we say the early Soviet Union was a Jewish government, but this is what we mean. And it was done at every level. And they had to bring them in from all over the place. But including the U.S., Germany, anywhere they could. And we talked about it, we talked about President of Mexico.
Starting point is 06:19:11 how they even went to, you know, brought more Jews into Cuba and Mexico to create the Communist Party. But this is at the exact same time while they're torching churches and they're murdering priests. And as the famine is beginning, farmers are starting to, well, many farmers are being killed by not giving into the grain requisition units were sent out and it really didn't matter because the ruling class had the ARA. They had the U.S.
Starting point is 06:19:52 They had the Western Europe. Murderous famine in the Volga I don't know what the TARA is but whatever it is it's a foreign relief organization or Jewish relief organizations. Or it doesn't matter. Not to mention wealthy Jews
Starting point is 06:20:07 throughout Europe taking care of them. There was no way if you were a Jew of any political knowledge whatsoever, anywhere in Europe, you knew in 1920 this was a Jewish government. It had nothing to do. The words like bourgeois and proletarian were meaningless. Not in maybe even in theory, but certainly in practice. The Jews alone have the right.
Starting point is 06:20:37 And Moses Hess was the one who brought all of this together. the fact that they had no problem with this the fact they had absolutely no problem with moving in or even murdering the tenants of the original house and simply taking over and of course the children of the neighboring houses hated those because they tend to be obnoxious I've been on a couple of cruises
Starting point is 06:21:05 and I was a very young man my parents took me on and the Jews were, the Jewish kids were extremely obnoxious. You always knew who they were. Many of them got kicked off, which is actually, you know, contemporary, I guess. But this was, this was a formation of a government. It wasn't just building, you know, the Department of Agriculture or whatever. It was creating an entirely Jewish culture.
Starting point is 06:21:35 And they're building synagogues. They weren't torching synagogues. They were actually building them, usually with foreign money. And they were already trading with Western Europe and the U.S. And this is, you know, the greatest slaughter of our time is just getting started here. And this is what the Jews are doing. Because the Jews were at the foundation of it from the start. So this paragraph is extremely important because it gives a strong evidence what I've been arguing for a long time.
Starting point is 06:22:16 The NEP came. The tenants of the national then moved into cozy apartments or pavilions that had previously belonged to aristocrats or bourgeois. In 1921, spend the summer in Moscow, where you suffocate? No, you are invited to an old mansion now confiscated in the outskirts of Moscow. There, everything is in the state, as in the days of the former owners, except that high fences are erected around these houses, that guards are posted at the entrance. Wives of the commissioners began to frequent the best spas of the West. We see the development owed to the scarcity of food, of misery, and the concealment of foodstuffs, a secondhand trade and a whole traffic of goods. Having bought for peanuts an entire lot of commodities from emigrating merchants, Aunt Ida and Uncle Mika sold them under the table,
Starting point is 06:23:06 and thus became probably the richest people in all of Moscow. However, in 1926, they were sentenced to five years imprisonment for economic counter-revolution, to which we added at the end of the NEP 10 years of camp. Yeah, the NEP, of course, is the new economic policy, which permitted limited market sales, both for agriculture and for anything, but especially for agriculture,
Starting point is 06:23:32 because they realize that even in the short term, this government was going to fall unless they could feed people. And not just Jews either, believe it or not. They need to need others. There's just a tiny handful of Jews in this country. And so it was a market reform. You did have economic growth.
Starting point is 06:23:57 You did have trading in the countryside. But it was soon to end, as it suggests here, where a far more tighter war communism comes into existence and then of course eventually collectivization but that's what the NEP is and the fact that this entire thing
Starting point is 06:24:21 isn't this how mafia organizations function this is exactly how they're depicted in every movie I've ever seen and every history book I've ever read this is how they're depicted I am not out of line by saying that the Jews operated as a sort of a mafia group in Russian society from the very beginning. Nothing changed here except now the Tsar is gone and they can take over and this is what they do. Let us also quote, when the Bolsheviks became the government, all sorts of individuals from the Jewish subproletariat joined them, wishing to get their share.
Starting point is 06:24:57 And as free trade and private enterprise were forbidden, many Jewish families saw their daily lives. greatly modified. The middle-aged people were mostly deprived while the younger ones rid of all spiritual ballast by having social careers were able to maintain their elders, hence to the excessive number of Jews in the Soviet state apparatus. Note, the author does not justify this process by calling it a unique issue, but he notes with grief the aspect that counts. This destructive process did not meet the resistance it would have required in the Jewish milieu. On the contrary, it found their voluntary executionants and a climate of sympathy, executives and the climate of sympathy.
Starting point is 06:25:39 It is thus that many Jews entered the Soviet ruling class. But this process, however a cult it was, go unnoticed by the disadvantaged Russian social strata. And how could the man in the street react, either by Jirs, Rosa of the Tsarvnakos, the husband of Kaika of the Cheka, or by funny stories from those that flooded Russia as early as 1918. This Vesotsky tea, Brodsky, T, Trotsky, Russia, and in Ukraine it gave hop, harvest workers, all Jews are bosses.
Starting point is 06:26:17 And they began to whisper a new slogan, the Soviets without the Jews. Yeah, among many other things. so many works I've read on the Jewish history of this era written by Jews they have no clue as to why anyone would dislike them they come up with all kinds of all their backward workers coming into the cities just that they're ignorant they're you know we're doing well our restrictions are lifted and therefore they hate us things like that but ultimately coming down to the fact that it's irrational to to hate us
Starting point is 06:27:03 keep in mind this is also the era where lenin is laying down the anti um or the uh the very strict laws against uh anti-semitism so you know is it going to go unnoticed no no it didn't go unnoticed especially by the poor. Just one more nail in the coffin of the ridiculous communist idea that had anything to do with the workers at all.
Starting point is 06:27:36 And by the way, later, these kind of jeers were taken as pogroms later on to strengthen the anti-Semitism laws of the empire.
Starting point is 06:27:53 Everything became a pogrom then. You called the Jew a name in the street, even if he desperately deserved it. Did it a couple of times. It became a pogrom. And in the Western press, a program breaks out in Kiev, or something like that. And anything to give them the excuse to strengthen it. And during wartime, now it's true that the, for those laws against anti-Jewish, anti-Jewish thought, jeering would be included in this. It wasn't just, you know, ideological anti-Semites. No, it was just, this was,
Starting point is 06:28:34 this became deeper and deeper over time and got even deeper under Stalin. When I keep saying, this had nothing to do, Stalin was complete, was his phylo-Semitic as everybody else he was surrounded by a lot of these same Jews some of them were purged it's true but I've said before there was reason for it
Starting point is 06:29:00 this was a revolutionary era early Stalin was very different it was building a state a lot of these people are useless when building a state and if you haven't heard it before this explains a lot of his Stalin's purges
Starting point is 06:29:17 the military. Yeah, these were revolutionary era officers who were very good in that kind of warfare but in terms of fighting Germans or fighting Chinese, it's absolutely out of the question, or Japanese, I should say. They were absolutely
Starting point is 06:29:37 out of the question. They call it anti-Semitic because of all of these Jews. I'm sick of them already. But they went And so far is that, you know, the word of pogrom, of course, like all the other words that they used at the time, totally lost meaning. These deers, these examples that you have here and the mockery and everything else, tells me by the poor, by actual proletarians, which the communists hated and despised and didn't understand, these were considered programs. These people had to be removed. And these bourgeois people, by the way, now we're considered proletarians in Soviet ideology.
Starting point is 06:30:23 The Stalin sent 12 main officers to Spain during the Spanish Civil War to help the Republican government. I want to say 11, but it's at least 10 of them were Jewish. And upon return, all 12 of them were executed. were they all executed yeah they were all disposed of the bulk of the bulk of his purchase from the military were simply retired although although it might be true because Stalin whenever you had any foreign connections that's why sultan is ended up in the gulag because he was taking POW you had any connection with a foreign country you lived there for a while you couldn't be trusted anymore so and that's exactly why solzincetian didn't actually do anything
Starting point is 06:31:18 this goes for a whole lot of people plus the fact that the gulags became a huge part of the soviet economy the gulags it did exist at this point they weren't as systematized as they were later on but they did they built things they built canals and they built bridges and they did they did things like that like Bridge on the River Kwai kind of work but yeah purging of that
Starting point is 06:31:48 and the war that was going on in Spain was precisely this revolutionary kind of a war but that's not regular warfare in the sense that it would be against Japan or or Germany or anybody else
Starting point is 06:32:02 two very different kinds of officers revolutionary officers versus actual regular state officers promoted by merit two very different groups of people. And the purge, generally speaking, they were just retired. But those sent abroad, yeah, there may be some truth to that. They may have been executed.
Starting point is 06:32:23 I'm not 100% sure. But because they were tainted from any foreign connection, especially as far away as Spain, if they weren't executed, they were sent to the Gulag. The co-authors of the book of Russian and the Jews became alarmed in 1924. It is clear that not all Jews are Bolsheviks and all Bolsheviks are not Jews, but there is no need today to prove the zealous participation of the Jews and the martyrdom imposed on the insanguinate Russia by the Bolsheviks. What we must, on the contrary, is to try to elucidate in a calm manner how this work of destruction was refracted in the consciousness of the Russian people. The Russians had never seen any Jews in command before. They now saw them today at every step, infested with a ferocious and unlimited power.
Starting point is 06:33:17 This concept that not all Jews are Bolsheviks, not all Bolsheviks are Jews, that's usually you get, that's the first argument you get from a normie. And it's completely irrelevant. It has nothing to do with anything. It's a huge proportion. There were plenty of Jews that benefited from it that were necessarily members of the party. I think all Jews in Russia benefited from it at the time. So why that is a go-to argument. That stupid argument is a go-to thing for people criticizing us.
Starting point is 06:34:01 I don't know. It doesn't mean anything. No one's claiming that. No one has ever claimed that. Yes, it was a Jewish government, but it doesn't imply. that all the Jews were Bolsheviks, two very different things. To answer the question of Judaism's responsibility in the emergence of Bolshevik Jews, we must first consider the psychology of non-Jews, that of all these Russians who suffer directly
Starting point is 06:34:24 from the atrocities committed. The Jewish actors of public life who wish to prevent any new bloody tragedy to save the Jews of Russia from new programs must take account of this fact. We must understand the psychology of the Russians who suddenly found themselves under the authority of an evil, arrogant, rude, self-confident, and imprudent brood. This is all quoting. This isn't Solzhenycin talking. Right. It is not for the purpose of settling accounts that we must remember history, nor to
Starting point is 06:34:56 reassume mutual accusations, but to understand how, for example, it was possible for important layers of a perfectly correct Jewish society to have tolerated an enormous participation of Jews on the rise, 1918, of a state that was not only insensitive to the Russian people foreign to Russian history, but which, moreover, inflicted on the population all the outbursts of terror. You know, we hear, I grew up with Jews and Jewish organizations using, you know, churches and everything else as a way to, that we had to reflect on ourselves. how could normal Germans have accepted Hitler
Starting point is 06:35:37 like Hitler you know you to the point where they were claiming he was hypnotizing them with a wand you know or that he was using a spell that's how that's how desperate they got to come up with something they did it during the Serbian war
Starting point is 06:35:53 Serbs have to have to look inward they do it all the time but not only because of what's going on what happened in the Soviet Union, which is far more evil, it's going on in Gaza, but both of these, and I think Gaza may be getting people to start thinking, you know, maybe, maybe this is the only time they've done this. Remember, this is at a time of extreme deprivation for Russians and certainly Russian Orthodox people. The war, I guess, you know, he's talking about
Starting point is 06:36:26 1918, the Civil War was raging, had a few years left, but we know one thing that the Jews will never take stock of themselves. They have no idea how to look inward. They have no conception of what it is to take responsibility for evildoing because they're incapable of it in their minds. The presence of Jews alongside the Bolsheviks raises questions not because it would induce a foreign origin to this power. When we speak of the abundance of Jewish names in the Revolutionary Russia, we paint a picture of nothing new. How many Germanic and Baltic names have figured for a century and a half to two centuries in the Tsarist administration? The real question is, in what direction did this power work? D.S. Pazmanic, however, gives us little reflection. It gives us this reflection.
Starting point is 06:37:19 Let all the Russians who are capable of reflecting ask themselves whether Bolshevism, even with Lennon in its head would have triumphed if there had been in Soviet Russia a satisfied and educated peasantry owning land. Could all the sages of Zion gathered together, even with a Trotsky at their head, be able to bring about the great chaos in Russia? He is right. They could never have done so. I don't know if he's being sarcastic because they were. They were landowners. Literacy, however you might define that, was through the roof. this point. Spending on education, starting in the reign of Nicholas I first was massive. You did have a satisfied, educated, peasantry owning land. You did. So that means they have to
Starting point is 06:38:08 tell another lie and say that they didn't. I mean, I've had to go into classes. And when I was teaching, it was a textbook would say something completely different than I was saying. and textbook usually would say that Russia is in such a bad state because somehow this revolution had to have occurred that I guess it's because people were bad off that's what historians today are like and that's how bad off they are they had to have been starving and everything
Starting point is 06:38:37 well there was nothing of the kind Russia was feeding the world at the time I'm talking about prior to the war and I love this reference to German Baltic names What the hell does that have to do with anything? The Germans and the Baltz in the administration were extremely loyal to the Tsarist cause, even today. Anyway, it's just a silly thing. They have to lie about history to justify what happened later on.
Starting point is 06:39:09 But the first to ask the question should be the Jews more than the Russians. This episode of history should call out to them today. The question of the mass participation of the Jews in the Bolshevik administration and the atrocities committed by the Jews should be elucidated in a spirit of far-sighted analysis of history. It is not admissible to evade the question by saying it was the scum, the renegades of Judaism. We do not have to answer for them. D.S. Chorman is right to remind me of my own remarks about the communist leaders of any nation. They have all turned away from their people and poured into the inhuman. I believe it. But Pazmanic was right to write in the 20s. We cannot confine ourselves
Starting point is 06:39:53 as saying that the Jewish people do not answer for the acts committed by one or the other of its members. We answer for Trotsky as long as we have not disassociated ourselves from him. Now to disassociate oneself does not mean to turn away. On the contrary, it means rejecting actions to the end and learning from them. You watch Happy Days as a kid? Yep. Do you remember when Fonzie couldn't say, couldn't say he was wrong Yeah He sounded like he had
Starting point is 06:40:21 Remember that episode That's what this is like They're trying to come up with something They can't say that they were responsible So they'll come up with all kinds of You know all kinds of gymnastics Even even those who are saying things that are positive But it could come out and say
Starting point is 06:40:38 That they're wrong It's just like Fonji He couldn't It couldn't come out And to this day And same thing goes with right wing You know Right wing
Starting point is 06:40:50 Neal Khan Jews in America The Ben Shapiro's That type They refuse Even they won't They won't answer for any of this I have never come across A Jew that was willing
Starting point is 06:41:05 Or a group Jew somewhere that was willing To answer for Trotsky And not just Trotsky An army of people that we're talking about here And of course Of course, Arthur Fonzorelli was played by Henry Winkler, who just happened to be Jewish. That is very true.
Starting point is 06:41:24 However, he gets a pass from me because he's cool. I've studied Trotsky's biography extensively, and I agreed that he did not have any specifically Jewish attachments, but was rather a fanatical internationalists. Well, I mean, does this mean that a compatriot like him is easier to incriminate than the others? But as soon as his star rose in the autumn of 1917, Trotsky became, for far too many people, a subject of pride, and for the radical left of the Jews of America, a true idol. What can I say of America? But of everywhere else as well. There was a young man in the camp where I was interned in the 50s, Vladimir Gershini, a fervent socialist, an internationalist who had kept a full conscience of his Jewishness. I saw him again in the 60s after our release, and he gave me his notes.
Starting point is 06:42:16 I read there that Trotsky was to Prometheus of October for the sole reason that he was Jewish. Quote, he was a Prometheus, not because he was born such, but because he was a child of the Prometheus people, this people who, if it was not attached to the rock of obtuse wickedness by the chains of a patentate latent hostility, would have done much more than he did for the good of humanity. I remember Prometheus is another word for Lucifer It's that being that That revolted from the gods And Try to make man completely self-sufficient
Starting point is 06:42:56 Which is what You know This is what the sickle on the Soviet flag is The sickle of the scythe of Saturn Separating heaven from Earth that there was no connection between there was no heaven or if there were
Starting point is 06:43:12 there was no connection with it but boy if he if you know I also have studied Trotty's biography and it's amazing the wild coincidence that he has surrounded himself
Starting point is 06:43:24 with so many Jews I couldn't number them no matter how long no matter how long I lived here but that's why Prometheus Lucifer they have a very very similar sometimes I use the words in my writings on this subject simultaneously.
Starting point is 06:43:41 It's the same exact concept. Prometheus tried to hate God or hated the gods. And so by giving man fire, among other things, he would make man not need gods anymore. So Prometheus Lucifer is a phrase I use quite a bit. All historians who deny the participation of Jews in the revolution tend not to recognize in these Jews their national character. Those, on the contrary, and especially Israeli historians, who see Jewish hegemony as a victory of the Judaic spirit, those ones exalt their belonging to Jewishness. It was as early as the 20s when the Civil War ended that arguments were made to exonerate the Jews. From what?
Starting point is 06:44:30 I.O. Levin reviews that. them in the collection Russian and Jews. The Bolshevik Jews were not so numerous as that. There is no reason why a whole people should respond to the acts of a few. The Jews were persecuted in Tsarist Russia. During the civil war, the Jews had to flee the pogroms by seeking refuge with the Bolsheviks, etc. And he rejected them by arguing that it was not a matter of criminal responsibility, which is always individual, but a moral responsibility. And this is normal. I've heard this, you know, a million times.
Starting point is 06:45:05 You know, we can give someone a list of names and it won't move them. Special pleading is very hard. Special pleading is a tough position to be in, and I can never do it. I don't think you could ever do it. But the arguments were made. to exonerate the Jews, you know, again, you ask from what? Yeah, they were, they only supported the Bolsheviks because they were treated very badly by Tsarist Russia.
Starting point is 06:45:39 Well, we spent 60 episodes showing how that's not the case. In their imagination, it was the case. But it seems that Russian Jews lived in this, in this make-believe world. Whether, whether you were an international, nationalist or not, that that was irrelevant. Moses Hess would say that was irrelevant. They created a world where they were constantly under,
Starting point is 06:46:06 under threat from Gentiles. That's not an argument. But the constant Jewish demands for everyone else that they don't like to look inward and to change. As a white man, I have to change, we need to change our point of view. Remember those tweets after George Floyd. And, of course, Jews were pretending to be white at that point.
Starting point is 06:46:35 This kind of argument was not permitted. And it wasn't a few. This electrified the Jewish world in Europe, in Western Europe, Central Europe, and in the old Russian Empire. They absolutely electrified them. The only thing that caused someone of a rift was Trotsky, being murdered.
Starting point is 06:46:59 That didn't mean that Sullen was not surrounded by Jews consistently. And as, you know, we'll get to at some point, in the early 70s, the Jews pulled back from the Soviet Union. It wasn't profiting them anymore. The Israelis were doing really well, warfare-wise. And that's where Jackson Vannock came from. And then as we get this national Bolshevism, Soviet. patriotism, which is how Putin was raised, it was a sort of a non-Jewish Soviet Union, even though in Dropov was a Jew.
Starting point is 06:47:42 So, you know, it's, it's, this is special pleading, and this is moving the gold post and every other fallacy you could think of. Pasmatic thought it impossible to be relieved of moral responsibility, but he consoled himself by saying, Why should the mass of the Jewish people answer for the turpitudes of certain commissioners? It is profoundly unjust. However, to admit that there is a collective responsibility for the Jews is to recognize the existence of a Jewish nation in its own.
Starting point is 06:48:15 From the moment when the Jews cease to be a nation, from the day when they are Russians, Germans, Englishmen of Judaic confession, it is then that they will shake off the shackles of collective responsibility. What does that mean? What is becoming, that would mean conversion to Lutheranism as a German or Orthodox as Russian, right? Judaic confession, he's assuming that this is a religious issue, not an ethnic one. I have the feeling he's deliberately, now he knows it's not true. He's talking to Gentiles now.
Starting point is 06:48:52 Englishmen of Judaic confession. Well, Disraeli was a Jew, prime minister of England. He converted, of course, and he was well aware of this dishonesty. No, it was, they were going to be as cohesive as before, but they wouldn't be as obviously Jewish, you know, and it goes with the Soviet practice of changing your name. All these name changes. See, in Hollywood, you see it everywhere. to avoid any actual responsibility. Now, the 20th century has rightly taught us to recognize the Hebrew nation as such, with its anchorage in Israel,
Starting point is 06:49:33 and the collective responsibility of a people, of the Russian people too, of course, is inseparable from its capacity to build a morally worthy life. Yes, they are abounding, the arguments that explain why the Jews stood by the Bolsheviks, and we will discuss others very solid when we talk about the civil war. nevertheless, if the Jews of Russia remember this period only to justify themselves, it will mean that the level of their national consciousness has fallen, that this consciousness will have lost itself.
Starting point is 06:50:03 The Germans could also challenge their responsibility for the Nazi period by saying they were not real Germans. They were the drugs of society. They did not ask for our opinion. But this people answers for its past, even in its ignominious periods. How to respond?
Starting point is 06:50:21 by endeavoring to conscientize it, to understand it. How did such a thing happen? Where lies our fault? Is there a danger that this will happen again? Yeah, I'm not going to say anything here. We know why there's really no responsibility. But again, it's something else that's imaginary in the Jewish consciousness. It is in this spirit that the Jewish people must respond to their revolutionary assassins
Starting point is 06:50:50 as well as the columns of well-disposed individuals who put themselves at their service. It is not a question here of answering before other peoples, but before oneself, before one's self, before one's conscience and before God, as we Russians must answer, both for the pogroms and our incendiary peasants, insensible to all pity, and for our red soldiers who have fallen into madness and our sailors transformed into wild beasts. What is he talking about? You know, he just settled. This is so...
Starting point is 06:51:19 All right. I know he's not a boomer. He doesn't have to be a policy. Yeah, I know. I know what it is. I know what it is. He's like he's a politician here. I have spoken of them with enough depth.
Starting point is 06:51:31 I believe in the red wheel. And I will add an example here. The Red Guard, A.R. Basov, in charge of escorting Shengariev, this man passionate of justice, a popular intercessor, began by collecting money from the sister of the prisoner as a tip and to finance his transfer from the Peter and Paul. fortress of the Marienzky Hospital, and a few hours later, in the same light, he leads the hospital some sailors who coldly shoot down Shengaryov and Kokokin in this individual so many homegrown traits. Answer yes, as one answers for a member of one's family.
Starting point is 06:52:09 For if we are absolved of all responsibility for the actions of our compatriots, it is a very notion of a nation which then loses all true meaning. I'm not going to stand by him on this one especially when it's his own words that in the past that that has shown that there's not much to be responsible for that the revolutionary movement was almost exclusively Jewish
Starting point is 06:52:36 and this is where this all came from you can't just start murdering people as a group and expect nothing to happen there were any pogroms at all that's what they were but he is right though in terms of the abstract concept of responsibility you know we're a member of a nation it's not just the present it's also the future in the past that we always have to deal with but Russians have nothing to absolutely nothing have nothing to apologize for or to look at
Starting point is 06:53:16 themselves for or look inward for at any point anything that they did in ukraine especially um was done for very very good reason they were driven they were driven to the wall and we spent 60 whatever episodes explaining exactly how that was done it is it's tiresome it is it is very it is very boomerous to say something like that um but I'm not sure what he means by it exactly. You know, let's just take it his faith value. He's well aware of peasants don't just start killing people for no reason. It's indiary peasants.
Starting point is 06:54:04 What, for what, for fun? Yeah, it's easy to say that Russians went along with the party later on because there was no other option. if you wanted a career you had to join the party you got to go okay you can give that to them or people
Starting point is 06:54:22 especially important people who joined the party because they didn't want anyone hurt in their family that's another thing you got to give them
Starting point is 06:54:31 that one too that's not the same thing that's not what we're talking about here but you know these any kind of violence was in direct response
Starting point is 06:54:43 to the constant violence from the Jewish quarter in Kiev, in Odessa, throughout Ukraine, throughout the panel settlement. And we've been dealing with this, and he's been dealing with this in this book for pages and pages and pages. I don't know. All right. Next episode is our new chapter, chapter 16, during the Civil War.
Starting point is 06:55:10 I will, as I always do, please go to the show notes or please go to the description. in the videos and all the links to support Dr. Johnson are there. Please do that. And yeah, once again, Dr. Johnson, thank you. This is another chapter down and that much more education and information to go forward with. And if I do say so myself, they haven't changed so many parallels to today. well that's why we study history especially in this case i can't go a paragraph in this book without seeing obvious parallels it's the same mentality this is how nations are nations develop a
Starting point is 06:56:02 consciousness they develop various defense mechanisms it's how they function that's how you can tell one nation from another most of the time and of course they're going to act the same way it's worked but it's it's very sad that right now you know the semester's already started you have um students being told in american and british universities that um the bolshek revolution had nothing to do with Jews. There were slightly more Jews than normal in it, but that's only because of Zaris anti-Semitism. That's how it's stated. That's how it's still stated.
Starting point is 06:56:48 But thank God there are people like us out there. And you giving me this platform to tell the truth. And it's just, which is a huge deal. I have the freedom that those professors don't have. Well, yeah, this is the only way truth is getting... I don't know if you noticed something. Netanyahu is not going around CNN and MSNBC and trying to get his message out there.
Starting point is 06:57:22 He's going on podcasts. That should tell... That should tell people. I have noticed that. Zonski was doing the same thing a few months ago. But remember, this is why Stalin had to be created into an anti-Semite. And almost a Russian national socialist. They had to create this image of him, which is completely false.
Starting point is 06:57:50 I fell for it many years ago. It sounds right. It sounds intuitive. But they needed to be victims too. Well, we're victims too of this. I mean, you know, Stalin, all of his purges were about us. It's all about us. So how come it could be a Jewish USSR when
Starting point is 06:58:08 When Stalin took over in very shortly after the Civil War was over And a decade after that started purging Jews Well, he was purging old Bolsheviks There were all Jews So of course it's going to look like it's anti-Semitic But it's not He had no choice He's going to purge old Bolsheviks
Starting point is 06:58:34 They're going to be Jews. That was the nature of the old Bolshevik movement. He didn't persecute them as Jews. That wasn't the point, and he never said that. Lenin's anti-Semitic legislation was still on the books, and he told Western newspapers that all the time. Yeah, so it's that there was, you know, that's a myth that has to die. It's taken a long time to die. but I think the entire 20th century historical world is imaginary as far as American professors
Starting point is 06:59:09 or journalists are concerned. That has to be completely rewritten and this is what my career is for better or for worse. All right, Dr. Johnson. Thank you very much. All right, my friend. I want to welcome everyone back to part 69 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing this fine Saturday?
Starting point is 06:59:35 I failed my auto inspection yesterday. I sat there. It was the brake calipers. And I sat there like a normal person for like four hours, waiting for everything to get done. I spent $1,000. I can't believe it. Now, it's normal wear and tear, but I just, I have never, I want to be back in Nebraska. where we don't have state inspections
Starting point is 07:00:04 because if they did there'd be very few cars on the road over there so you know I was there for at least at least four hours and it so it's
Starting point is 07:00:19 and I spent a small what I think is a small fortune on these things calipers are just normal wear and tear though you know their brakes So, yeah, so I'm, I guess I'm doing all right. Yeah, I've only lived in one state where you had to do inspection, and that was Georgia. I don't remember doing it in Florida, but in Georgia, but it was only emissions.
Starting point is 07:00:50 There was no safety inspection, like brakes and all that stuff. So, you basically knew you were going to fail if your check engine light was on. I used to know some people, you know, to just get the sticker in the most corrupt possible way. But I lost track with them when I lost my Facebook account. So I had to go like a normal person. I mean, I'm not a normal person. So, you know, sitting there. I used to know a couple of guys that would just put the sticker on.
Starting point is 07:01:19 But, yeah, got me thinking about Nebraska. And now where you were there's not, right? Oh, and Alabama, there is nothing. I mean, you're not going to, yeah, yeah, I mean, half the people I know their cars wouldn't be on the road. Yeah, Alaska, there's a few others. Minnesota, which I thought was weird, but they just pull you over. Like, if your lights aren't working at night, you're going to get pulled over. You've got to get them fixed, so I don't know.
Starting point is 07:01:52 I think there is nothing in Wyoming or like the Montana, or the, the, The Dakotas or Montana. But if you get a speeding ticket, the only reason you really get a speeding ticket if you're out on the open road is they consider that to be emissions related. It's not really for a safety thing. It's like, oh, you're polluting the air. And then from what I understand, someone I know who got one, like they'll let you pay at the next town or something like that. The only time you need to get an inspection in Nebraska is if you bring the car in from out of state. so I had to do it once.
Starting point is 07:02:28 Or you build it yourself. Apparently, that's a big thing. Kit car, yeah. Yeah, and that has to be inspected. Or if you can produce a title, they're just looking to see, you know, what the hell it is. But otherwise, you know, it's anarchy most of the time.
Starting point is 07:02:49 Wonderful. Well, on that note, let's jump in. New chapter today, Chapter 16, During the Civil War, and here we go. Trotsky once boasted that during the Civil War, even traveling in his special Revolutionary Military Council Railroad Coach, he was able to find time to acquaint himself with the latest works of French literature. Not that he realized exactly what he said. He acknowledged that he was able to find not just time, but room in his heart between appeals to the revolutionary sailors,
Starting point is 07:03:24 forcibly mobilized units of the Red Army and a throne order to execute every tent soldier in a unit that wavered in battle. Well, he usually did not stay around to supervise carrying out such orders. Let's be clear. The White Army at no time had a railroad coach for the commanders. Usually they suffered along with the men. They were so outspent by the Reds, which of course begs the question. they always had you know I've I've been I've been saying this for a long time
Starting point is 07:04:01 I don't care what anyone says I know the the Western world did not assist the whites at all the only time the only reason that they were even there was to defend would try to keep Russia in the war and to protect their assets like the French in Ukraine or Britain in the in the oil producing regions down south and of course the Americans up north and even in Siberia
Starting point is 07:04:31 but the Siberians they had no combat capability they were just like the mall cops as far as I can see but the you know De Nican says we didn't get a bullet we didn't get anything from the west most of our supplies
Starting point is 07:04:49 came from what was left over on the battlefield supplies ammunition was always critically low 24 hours a day and um and here we have the trotsky in his in his railroad coach you know they had a full professional staff they had full salaries you know where was this money coming from and it's just um and i'm even talking about you know the the germans weren't financing knew the end of the war the germans were not financing the Bolsheviks. The Germans couldn't finance anything near the end of the war. Germany was still being used, though, as a part of the route for Jewish money coming from
Starting point is 07:05:34 the big New York banks into Russia to support either. Trotsky and Leninists, there were two factions. They didn't, they sometimes disagreed. Trotsky didn't like the Brecht-Latost-Latowski Treaty. but they were not going to punch left of whatsoever. So, but that shows you right away. The huge difference between the two armies, white generals suffered with their men no matter where they were, and yet the Reds, the communists, the Bolsheviks were very, very well-financed. Orchestrating a bloody war on the vast plains of Russia, he was absolutely untouched.
Starting point is 07:06:20 by the unprecedented suffering of her inhabitants, by her pain. He soared aloft, above it all, on the wings of the international intoxication of the revolution. The February Revolution was a Russian Revolution, no matter how headlong, erroneous, and pernicious it was, it did not aspire to burn down the entire pre-existing life to annihilate the whole pre-revolutionary Russia. Yet immediately after the October, Bolshevik revolution, the revolution spilled abroad and became an international and devastating plague, feeding itself by devouring and destroying social order wherever it spread. Everything built was to be annihilated, everything cultivated, to be confiscated, whoever resisted, to be shot. The Reds were exclusively
Starting point is 07:07:05 preoccupied with their grand social experiment, predestined to be repeated, expanded, and implemented all over the world. That's an excellent point. I like the idea that he's properly defining the word revolution. In the political sense, a revolution is when a party takes over and wants to destroy everything of the old order. They start off, they even change the calendar, year zero, year one. There'll be nothing left. All the old, you know, everything from the family to the workplace, everything will be destroyed and will be then rebuilt by the party. That's a revolution. The American Revolution, that was just a war of independence. There weren't a whole lot of big political differences there fundamentally.
Starting point is 07:07:55 But he's saying that that's what's happening in February. It was a Masonic Revolution. I guess to some extent they wanted to do that over a long period of time. But compared to what happened in October, it was a very different story. and a lot of their experiments the first couple of years were totally repealed especially colentize stuff
Starting point is 07:08:19 with this sexual revolution but that is the property you use the word revolution that's how you have to use it to destroy the society that we're taking over is so evil that we have to destroy every aspect of it leaving nothing there
Starting point is 07:08:36 and then we rebuild it and we restart it and we'll live in paradise. That's the definition of revolution. For an easy, quick blow, the October coup snowballed into a fierce three-year-long civil war, which brought countless bodies calamities, countless bloody calamities to all the peoples of Russia. The Mulsia nationality of the former empire and the cannon recoil from the Great War complicated both the inhumane Bolshevik plot and its implementation.
Starting point is 07:09:10 Unlike the French Revolution, which unfolded on the territory of mononational France, and did not see much foreign intervention apart from a short incursion of hostile troops. And with all its horrors being a national affair from beginning to end, the Russian Revolution was horribly aggravated by its multinational masses. It saw the strong participation of Red Latvians, then-Russian subjects, former German and Austrian prisoners of war, organized into full-blown regiments like the Hungarians, and even large numbers of Chinese.
Starting point is 07:09:40 No doubt the brunt of the fighting for the Reds was carried out by Russians. Some of them were drafted on pain of death, while others volunteered in a mad belief they would be fighting for a happy future for themselves. Yet the Russian Jews were not lost in all that diversity. The politically active part of Russian Jewry, which backed the Bolshevik civic regime in 1917, not just as boldly stepped into the military structures of Bolsheviks. During the first years after the October revolution in the midst of the internationalist frenzy, the power over this enormous land was effortlessly slipping into the hands of those clinging to the Bolsheviks, and they were overwhelmed by the newfound immensity of that power.
Starting point is 07:10:23 They immediately began using it without a backward glance or any fear of control, some without doubt in the name of higher ideals, while others in the name of lower ideals. Obstinacy of fanaticism is some in some and abysm. ability to adapt in others. At that time, no one could imagine that the Civil War would ignite enormous Jewish pogroms unprecedented in their atrocity and bloodshed all over the south of Russia. Well, I don't know what he means in that last section.
Starting point is 07:10:56 During the Civil War, so many of the opponents of the whites were of Jewish background. I guess it appeared that way. but this is this is a reality of warfare everyone knew who the two sides were everyone knew that the Jews were essentially were the Bolshevik revolution
Starting point is 07:11:18 and yeah you did have a huge number of the old regimes technicians and officers in the Red Army but they had also hostages which they were willing to shoot in my very lengthy article on on on the civil war
Starting point is 07:11:41 which really started off to be just about Saint-Tcon but ended up being about the civil war in general that's one of the reasons the whites were incapable of doing that because Trotsky didn't care he wasn't a Russian he didn't see himself that way he could wipe out whole groups of people none of the white generals could do that they weren't they weren't capable of taking hostages even if they could
Starting point is 07:12:15 they wouldn't have the fanaticism the level of fanaticism where you have one ideological manifesto ruling everything the whites of course were a mess there were a patchwork all over the place place. Some monarchists, some not. The monarchists were saying that, you know, Bolshevism could only be
Starting point is 07:12:42 fought by its opposite, which is orthodox royalism and nationalism. So many errors, you know, but at any given time, well, especially in the last two years, the Reds always outnumbered, outnumbered the whites. And a lot of it had to do with the fact that the London was lying about his agenda. Totsky was too. They weren't talking about, you know, burning down churches. They weren't talking about, um, collectivization or anything else at the time. But as soon as that came into being, you had peasant uprisings everywhere, everywhere. And it didn't stop until 1941. And these peasant uprisings, they started occurring during the, uh, during the civil War. Again, another error of the whites was that they didn't join up with them. Of course, they didn't have many supplies for them anyway, but they didn't connect with them. The agenda of the peasants was also all over the place. Some were strict royalists. Some weren't. And of course, they ended up getting mowed down because of how well equipped the Reds were. This was an ongoing thing consistently. Even when the Civil War official,
Starting point is 07:14:02 was over the peasant uprisings were endless and this is a part of the reason why collectivization everyone knew it had to be done but this is the only way that a totalitarian system could take power because you notice how we defined revolution also implies totalitarianism that you're going to tear everything out everything every aspect of life down you're going to build every aspect of life up which implies you're controlling it. Totalitarianism means to control everything. Everything is subject to legal regulation. Everything is under the party.
Starting point is 07:14:43 Everything is for the party, no matter what it is, how private you think it is. And so revolution, totalitarianism, strictly speaking, they go together. We can judge the true nature of the multi-ethnic war from the Red Programme during the suppression of the Kron that uprising in March 1921. A well-known socialist revolutionary and sociologist Petram Sorkin writes, for three days, Latvian, Boschir, Hungarian, Tatar, Russian, Jewish, and international rabble crazed by alcohol and the smell of blood, raped and killed without restraint.
Starting point is 07:15:22 Or here is another recollection from ordinary witnesses. During the Feast of the Epiphany in 1918, an orthodox sacred profession stirred forth from the gates of the Kremlin and Tula, and an international squad gunned it down. Even with the ruthless international squads, the force of the Red Guard alone was no longer sufficient. The Bolshevik regime needed a regular army. In 1918, Lev Trotsky, with the help of Sklyansky and Yaakov Sferdlov, created the Red Army. quote, many Jews were fighting in its ranks. Some units were entirely Jewish, like, for example, the Brigade of Joseph Furman, end quote.
Starting point is 07:16:05 The Jewish share in the command corps, the Red Army became large and influential, and this trend continued for many years, even after the end of the Civil War. This Jewish involvement has been researched by several Jewish authors and encyclopedias. So, yeah, so you can't talk to me about pogroms. when you have and these were the some of the Zionist Corps these were
Starting point is 07:16:31 the followers of Moses Hess the Poli Zion the so-called self-defense units then you know threw themselves into the war on the red side and so
Starting point is 07:16:48 you know you had a almost an entirely Russian although you did have some southern Turkic and Asiatic units that were very, very loyal. Even beyond the dawn,
Starting point is 07:17:04 you had some Muslims who were fanatical fighters against the Zionists, but for the most part, it was a Russian movement against a largely Jewish one. And if you were there at the time, there was no way you could miss it. So you shoot a bullet during the Russian Civil War on the white side. That was a program. I think you said Zionists there. Did you mean to say Zionist?
Starting point is 07:17:31 You mean the self-defense corps? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Because they were well armed. Zionists were part of this. They were well-armed, Poliz Zion, two, the half-socialist, half-Zionist followers of Moses Hess, as well as simply the communist gangs themselves. We were sort of talking about the pogroms.
Starting point is 07:17:54 I don't know. It has started in the Jewish mind many years earlier, and that's when their self-defense groups began to form and began to train. And they became, I don't want to say the core of the Red Army, but they became part of the Red Army as the Civil War went on. In the 1980s, Israeli scholar Aaron Abramovich used many Soviet sources, including the 50-year anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces, the Soviet historical encyclopedia, volumes of directives of the front command of the Red Army, to compile detailed nominal rosters of highly ranked Jewish commanders, exclusively Jewish ones, in the Red Army during the period from the Civil War up to the aftermath of the Second World War.
Starting point is 07:18:44 Let's skim through the pages allocated to the Civil War. This is a very extensive roster. It begins with the Revoian Soviet. this is all names these are all this is a humongous list of Jews sometimes names change sometimes with names not changed
Starting point is 07:19:05 that were at the high command medium command even you know lieutenants whatever um all of a sudden you know the left love ranks you know when they were in the world you know the order number one was was repealed they were as strict as anyone else
Starting point is 07:19:23 this is an army of Jews just as officers and this is just a small selection and so I'm not going to torture you thank you by having to go through the entire thing it's a long list
Starting point is 07:19:44 of Jewish names I bet if I try it hard enough I could find like a Jew in the White Army somewhere. I'm sure there was one or two. But this proves that the Red Army under Trotsky's command was largely Jewish, and yet it was mostly Russians that suffered. Yeah, so there's about 20 names of commanders here. I'm going to jump ahead. Abramovich painstakingly lists numerous Jewish heads of staff and members of the Revoian Soviets in each of the 20 armies, then the commanders, heads of staff, and military commissars of divisions. The list of the latter, those in charge of the ideological branch of command, was three times longer than the list of Jewish commanders of divisions.
Starting point is 07:20:36 In this manner, Abramovich describes brigades, regiments, and separate detachments. He lists Jewish heads of political administrations and revolutionary military tribunals at all levels, noting that especially large percentages of Jews can be found among political officers at all levels of the Red Army. Jews played an important role in the provision in supply services. Let's name some of them. Jews occupied important positions in military medicine as well, heads of sanitary administrations of the fronts, an army, senior doctors of units, and bodies of troops. many Jews, commanders of large units and detachments, were distinguished for their courage, heroism, and generalship,
Starting point is 07:21:14 but due to the synoptic character of this chapter, we cannot provide detailed descriptions of the accomplishments of the Jewish Red Army soldiers, commanders, and political officers. Matriculously listing the commanders of armies, the researcher misses another Jew, T.con Kveshschen, who happened to be in charge of the Fourth Army of the Eastern Front, then of the Eighth Army of the Southern Front, front and later of the first army of the Turkestan front. So you have Jews saying that if you wanted to read every name of officers, commanders in the Red Army, it would take pages upon pages, upon pages, upon pages, upon pages, you know, and beyond. Now, you notice also we hear phrases like political officers. you already have the
Starting point is 07:22:10 idea of you can't have an autonomous army this is what happened when World War II Stalin had perfected it but it started here the commander had to have a political
Starting point is 07:22:23 officer attached to him fanatical probably Jewish tightly tightly connected to the party that's going to make sure that his decisions are in line with socialism
Starting point is 07:22:37 and that he's ideologically motivated in the right way. The last thing in the world, these people wanted, regardless of anything else, was an autonomous army. And in World War II, a huge portion of the Soviet army's casualties were self-inflicted. because these people were shot trying to retreat or disagreeing with someone in huge numbers. You had whole detachment,
Starting point is 07:23:12 whole regiments that were ordered to shoot if anyone was a retreat. So, and that you could find that in painful detail in Yolkim Hoffman's book, Salon's War of Extermination,
Starting point is 07:23:28 that they took a large chunk out of their own army. But it as far as the communists were concerned, well, they weren't reliable anyway. So you're talking about just an absurdly large list of Jews running this. Many brought in from New York. And I know I've said it before, but this is why Stalin had to purge them because they were good for this kind of fighting. But, you know, a regular army, that was a different story.
Starting point is 07:24:03 and they were brought in without any military experience, some of them. Trotsky. Trotsky never served in the army at any level whatsoever. He's head of the Red Army. You know, that's the symbol of the Soviet, especially the early Soviet Union, is that you had people put in positions that they had absolutely no right to hold so long as they were either Jewish or fanatically loyal to. either Transcue or Lennon, and yet the Red Army did rely on old imperial officers who most certainly had a political officer attached to them to get the fighting done. But the political officer was meant to connect their work with the party, never to be independent or to make independent decisions.
Starting point is 07:25:03 However, Suvorov mentions those, I forget what they were called push brigades or something like that. They were, it was basically a line of men that was behind a unit. And if anybody tried to retreat or run away, they were, or if anybody fell behind, they just shot them. Yeah, I've heard a bunch of different translations, push brigades. And it was a big chunk of the military. They shot a lot of Soviet soldiers. of all backgrounds I'm talking about World War II now
Starting point is 07:25:36 and you know Zoukov matter how you know he may be by himself a great strategist but he could not be he could not be at all independent
Starting point is 07:25:52 and even he was held under suspicion because he was so good so and that goes for the rest of them. And you're reading here, political officers. What the hell does that mean? That's what we're talking about. It's a party member attached to a major commander to make sure that he doesn't have any ideas of his own. The Russian Jewish Encyclopedia provides additional information about
Starting point is 07:26:18 some commanders. Here I would like to commend this encyclopedia in 1994 for in our new free times its authors performed an honest choice, writing frankly about everything, including less than honorable things. Dravken Gusef became the head of political administration of the Red Army and the chief of the entire Red Army in 1921. Later, he was head of its Ist part, commissioned on the history of October Revolution of Bolshevist Party, and a big figure in the common turn and was buried in the Kremlin wall in Moscow. Mikhail Gostovic Leskevich Leskiewicz was a member of many Revojans Soviets, and later he was in charge of the Siberian military district, and even later, the first deputy chairman of the Revozov, Revoian Soviet of the USSR,
Starting point is 07:27:11 yet he was buried merely on the field of Mars in St. Petersburg. It's essentially another list of names here with some descriptions. I don't know if it's worth it to go through it. There's a couple of things of interest. This goes on for a while. Yeah. He's detailing it. Maybe we should just go through it. I won't spend so much time on the names. Israel Rosgon was the military commissioner of the headquarters of Petrograd Military District and participated in the suppression of the Kronstadt uprising. Later, he was in charge of the Red Army in Bukhara, suppressing the uprising in Central Asia. Still later, he worked in the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet.
Starting point is 07:27:53 I thought they represented that there were the people's, they represented the masses, they represented the workers and peasants. And all these guys do is suppress, it suppress rebellions. Apparently, that didn't connect in their minds. Boris Goldberg was military commissar of the Tomskaya, gubernaya, later of the Permskaya Gubernaya, still later at the Privalshyski military district. and even later he was in charge of the Reserve Army and was acknowledged as one of the founders
Starting point is 07:28:28 of the Soviet Civil Aviation. Remember, that aviation and that technology they got from the West, because the West was already investing in the Soviet economy. This is why Stalin had the best tanks in the world in 1941 by far
Starting point is 07:28:49 because they had Stalin had sent, actually they were Jews, very obviously, to the vicar's plant. They bought a bunch of them and went back, and that became the foundation of the Soviet armor from there on in. So the same thing happened here. Modest Rubinstein, spelled modest, was deputy head of the Revojant and Soviet of the Special Army, and later he was head of political administration of an army group. Boris Hippo was the head of the political. administration of the Black Sea Fleet. Later, he worked in the political administrations of
Starting point is 07:29:25 the Baltic Sea Fleet. The Turkestan Front was ahead of the political administration of the Central Asian Military District and later of the Caucasian Army. Mikaalanda was ahead of the political division of an army later. Deputy head of political administration of the entire Red Army and still later had a political administration of the bylo-Russian and then of the Siberian military districts. Lev Berlin was commissar of the Volga military flotilla and later worked in the political administration of the Crimean Army and still later in that of the Baltic fleet. You see in a pattern here, right?
Starting point is 07:30:06 Everyone says political division. These weren't necessarily, you know, there were soldiers, sort of. But these were ideologists connected to actual soldiers. political administration, again, as I said before. And so it was their role, and it was their role in World War II as well. Yet how many outstanding characters acted at lower levels? Boris Skundin, previously a lowly apprentice of Glockmaker Svredloff, senior, successfully evolved into the military commissar of a division,
Starting point is 07:30:43 commissar of Army headquarters, political inspector of front, and finally into deputy head of political administration, of the First Cavalry Army. Avenir Kanukayev was commander of a guerrilla band, who later was tried before the Revolutionary Tribunal for crimes during the capture of Asgabat and acquitted, and in the same year of 1919, was made into political plenipotentiary of the Turk Commission of the all-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Soviet of People's Commissars of Kaskar, Bukara, and Kiva.
Starting point is 07:31:19 Moses Vineski, Mishka Joponchik, was a member of the Jewish militia squad of Odessa in 1905 and later a gang leader. He was freed from a hard labor camp by the February Revolution and became a commander of a Jewish fighting brigade in Odessa, simultaneously managing the entire criminal underworld of Odessa. In 1919, he was commander of a special battalion, and later he was in charge of an infantry regiment of the Red Army. his unit was composed of anarchists and criminals. In the end, he was shot down by his own side. Well, we've mentioned this before. A true revolutionary group opens the prisons.
Starting point is 07:32:01 That was a case in France as well. And this is obviously not a military man at all. But I don't know how you can tell the difference between being a gang leader and being just an ordinary Jew, especially one that's armed. and fighting against the whites. I think that the entire Jewish idea in Russia was, up until this point, was as a mafia group. Military commissar Isaac Zalkovich was in command of a composite company of the red cadets during the suppression of the Kronstadt uprising. We can see extraordinary Jewish women in the higher Bolshevik ranks as well.
Starting point is 07:32:43 Nadezka Ostrovskaya rose from the head of Gubkom, party committee of a gubernaya, the highest executive authority in a gubernaya, of Vladimir Gubernaya to the post of the head of political administration of the entire 10th Army. Rebecca Plastinina headed Gu brevcom and later the gubgum of Archangel Gubernaia. Is it proper? Yeah. Yeah. I think you go.
Starting point is 07:33:14 Okay. Yeah. Is it proper to mention here, Cecil. Zelia Zeliksen Babrovskaya, who was a seamstress in her youth and became the head of the military department of the Moscow Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party of Bolsheviks. Or take one of the theories of the revolution, Eugenia Bosch, or her sister Elena Rosemirovich. Or another thing. The Soviets used the phrase, core of red Cossacks.
Starting point is 07:33:45 Yet those were not Cossacks who embraced communist ideology, but plain bandits who occasionally disguised themselves as whites for deception. Those Cossack Corps were made of all nationalities from Romanians to Chinese with a full-blown Latvian cavalry regiment. A Russian, Vatali Pramakov, was in command, and its political department was headed by I.I. Mintz by Isaac Greenberg in the second division, and S. Turovinsky was head. head of the headquarters. A. Schillman was the head of the operative section of the staff. S. Davidson managed the division newspaper and Y.A. Rubinoff was in charge of the administrative section of the staff. Since we began particularizing, let's look at the famous leaders of the
Starting point is 07:34:34 Red Army at those never fading names. Vladimir Ansinoff. Yeah, we'll stop right there. A whole list of names right here. But I do want to comment on the contract. You'll hear. You'll hear. or you'll read in every textbook that Nestor Machno who's come up before was a Cossack. He never was. He was never initiated into that. He was not orthodox.
Starting point is 07:35:02 Coulsac was a the way they liked to talk about themselves. There were knights. And he was the very opposite of that. And so this was kind of the third front that these fake Cossacks in something they would wear the uniforms they'd show up to a Cossack white
Starting point is 07:35:21 or even just to a plain old white gathering and say we're going to go fight the communists together and then turn on them you did have some a little bit of diversity but of course these were all Russian, Ukrainian speaking peoples and of course had to be 100% Orthodox
Starting point is 07:35:40 to be a member whatsoever so they used deception constantly here but you'll hear of the so-called green front which I think is wildly exaggerated we've talked about that before I think or maybe on another show that were these
Starting point is 07:35:58 people like Nestramachna who allegedly didn't agree with the Bolsheviks who also was both a headman of a Kalsak Corps as well as a as well as a you know I left this who wanted to fight the whites
Starting point is 07:36:17 and he did tremendous damage Macdon did tremendous damage to the rear guard of the whites he probably would have been you know purged as well but the fake red Cossacks or that's you can't red Cossack doesn't go together
Starting point is 07:36:34 it's like like being a Catholic Orangeman it doesn't make any sense it was simply for deceit okay i'm not going to read all these names but i will read those uh read the first sentence in the last sentence since we began particularizing let's look at the famous leaders of the red army at those never fading names it's like 15 or 20 names last sentence after the name says why couldn't they
Starting point is 07:36:58 pull it off without jews which are four percent of the four percent of the population now if you ask you know if you ask a zionist today or some kind of jewish uh you know you know you Jewish scholar, they'll tell you, well, because they have the highest IQs. So obviously, that's how they're going to rise to the top. Well, 4% is being generous, given the time period. But so we're talking about pretty much an entirely Jewish Red Army, bringing in Jews from all over the world, which was one of Trotsky's jobs. and sometimes they changed the names, sometimes they didn't. It was a non-Russian, it was a violently anti-Russian group.
Starting point is 07:37:49 But Lenin was the man who gave the kind of the, he was a politician. He would say that you're going to have land and we're going to have peace. And he was lying through his teeth. I've actually been through Lenin speeches at the time. saying that, well, you can't be a Bolshevic and want to give peasants land. That's private property. They don't believe in private property. So clearly there's some confi either they don't know what, you know, Bolshevism is,
Starting point is 07:38:21 and we can't blame them for not knowing it. This was a very new thing. Or the propaganda was just that good. And so whatever supporters they may have had were gathered in this, in this very deceitful way, they acted like they were going to, you know, they laid out whatever the, whatever the audience wanted to hear London would say. He didn't believe any of it. And, you know, Trotsky was, you know, had this group of thugs at his disposal. And I think that was how those two interrelated during the course of the Civil War and right afterwards.
Starting point is 07:39:02 maybe address something here because I think some of our more spurgy listeners will take umbrage with uh you saying before that Lenin was part Jewish um but that his Jewishness had nothing to do with his revolutionary um you know had nothing to do with his beliefs and I think there's there there are enough people who would spurg out over that because you know it's like no that's exactly why he was a revolutionary I don't remember saying that. I don't remember saying that. He had some Jewish blood in him.
Starting point is 07:39:40 That's true. He was perceived, I think, the last name of Yulunov, he was perceived as basically a Gentile. Clearly, he got along with Trotsky, but his total, you know, his radically internationalist, I mean, the Jewish was certainly a part of it. but his family background's a mess. They're from everywhere. genetically speaking, he was a disaster area. And that has something that absolutely has something to do with it. The Judaism is certainly a part of it.
Starting point is 07:40:16 But he did not. What I think what I said is that he was a minority. He was a, at least at the time, a spokesman for a mostly Jewish group, but he didn't see himself as, as a Jew, even though he had Jewish Jews, he always referred to the Jews as someone else. You know,
Starting point is 07:40:41 almost in the third person, he would refer to the Jews. That's not the case with Tronsky. There's always going to be a lot of controversy about that. I know, I can spurge out too on some of this stuff, you know, because it's what I do. but Lenin didn't see himself as a Jew like Trotsky did.
Starting point is 07:41:08 Yeah, I think, I can't remember what book I read it in, but I think it was like right after October when they were trying to figure out who was going to be in charge. Apparently Lenin and Trotsky had a, there's reports that they had a conversation where Lenin told him that you're not going to be the head of Russia. No Jew will ever be able to be the head of Russia even now. are you familiar with that well oh in the sense that he didn't want an obvious jew to be the
Starting point is 07:41:39 commander of a um or dictator of of of the entire soviet empire i could see that yeah that's very very bad optics there was one jew who um was um um um the former the commander of the kgb um just before He was only there for a short time, Andropov, sorry, he was the only Jew and the only Russian in terms of ethnicity that was ever a dictator of the Soviet Union was Gorbachev. Because, you know, most of them were either Georgian, Ukrainian, or a mess that was Lenin. All right, moving on. Or take hundreds and thousands of Russian generals and officers of the former. Imperial Army, who served in the Red Army, though not in the political sectors, they were not
Starting point is 07:42:37 invited there, but in other significant posts. True, they had a commissar with a gun behind them, and many served on pain of execution of their hostage families, especially in case of military failures. Yet they gave an invaluable advantage to the Reds, which actually might have been crucial for the eventual victory of Bolsheviks, why just about half of the officers of the general staff worked for the Bolsheviks. Well, I mentioned that before. The Reds took hostages. The whites didn't have that capacity. And so they were able to dragoon a lot of the former imperial officers, a handful anyway, to do some of the strategizing.
Starting point is 07:43:12 But they had a gun to their head, sometimes quite literally, the entire time. So they would never consider themselves to be, like, you know, I got a Cornelov. The Cornelov revolt, so-called, terrified the left. right after the February Revolution we cannot have an independent army whatsoever and we've seen this list of Jews who ran the political side that was parallel to the military side to the military side you had plenty of Jews there too
Starting point is 07:43:48 but you also had former actual military officers very few of these people had any military experience So people being put in charge of agriculture that didn't know what a farm was, put in charge of, of, you know, mining. They'd never seen a mine before. Like I said before, if you, you know, if you're, if you're Jewish and a leftist at the time, you just go to go to Russia during the Civil War. You could be, you could be anything. You could have any job you want. You could, you could be, you know, it's, it was an incredible, destructive time.
Starting point is 07:44:23 But that's exactly what it was. It was the Jewish hatred of Gentiles specifically, the ultimate Goy, the ultimate Goyim, who were the Russians, especially the Eastern Slavs in general. All right. Let's do the next two paragraphs, and then we're going to start getting into the Cheka, the second paragraph I just read it, and it's want to get your take on it. But let's do this one first. And we should not forget that initial and fatal susceptibility of many Russian peasants, by no means all of them, of course, to Bolshevik propaganda. Shulgin flatly noted, death to the bourgeois was so successful in Russia because the smell of blood inebriates, alas, so many Russians, and they get into a frenzy like wild beasts. Yet let's avoid going into another unreasonable extreme, such as the following.
Starting point is 07:45:15 The most zealous executioners in Cheka were not at all the notorious Jews, but the recent minions of the throne of the throne generals and officers. end quote as though they would be tolerated in there in the checka in the cheque they were invited there with only one purpose to be executed yet why such a quick temper those jews who worked in the cheque were of course not the notorious jews but quite young and committed ones with revolutionary garbage filling their heads and i deem that they served not as executioners but mostly as interrogators yeah this is a police force um this is this is this is independent of the military apparatus. You had older, you know, imperial officers in the, in the Red Army, but as far as a check it goes, you know, in Czechistan, I forget, I forget off the top of my head, it's for the defense of the revolution. That's the name of it. So this was a purely ideological matter.
Starting point is 07:46:22 And I'm telling you, the one thing that the Reds had over the Reds had over the Reds had over the whites was this single, simple, dishonest, but single, simple, ideological focus that people can get behind. And, of course, they didn't mean it, but they realized, you know, there were just so much, their propaganda was so much better. There was no such thing as white propaganda.
Starting point is 07:46:49 And I think there were, you know, and the monarchists had some of it. But the main commanders like Danikin, they didn't have it. They didn't understand. understand it. Nicholas I second didn't understand it. The Reds won, at least in part, because they knew how to psychologically approach a war. How many Jews are there in the world? I mean, how many can they, you know, there were a few million people fighting in this civil war? Well, maybe it's reasonable because this is where the overwhelming majority of the Jews lived of various ages.
Starting point is 07:47:26 But still, there's only so many of them. And so, but the check, absolutely not, you're not going to see a whole lot of Gentiles there. Red Army, you might. But that's the whole point of the political side of it, the political officers. All right. We'll pick this up getting into the check on the next episode. As I do at the end of every episode, go to the show notes and go to the description of the videos. there are links to Dr. Johnson's
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Starting point is 07:48:37 And thank you, Dr. Johnson. We'll talk in a couple days. Thank you, my fan. I want to welcome everyone back to part 70 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? If I hear the phrase dancing is really at least one more time, I'm thinking I'm going to scream. Not that I disagree with it.
Starting point is 07:49:01 I mean, I fully agree with the whole theory. And I'm working on that for a daily nationalist tomorrow. But it comes up so much. And the fact that no matter what you say to people, you could give the names, you could give their Mossad connections, it just doesn't penetrate. They can't believe this stuff. and this has been going on since, well, 24 years tomorrow. And it's a huge frustration. Or they'll just nod, you know, and say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 07:49:35 And then they'll say something else when they're in a different group of people. But unfortunately, the dancing Israelis are the key to the Israeli connection to 9-11. Well, people will just call it a conspiracy theory. because one or two people, two or three people getting together to plan something isn't a conspiracy, even when it's right in front of your nose. I mean, I don't know what to say anymore. Any crime is conspiratorial, no matter who does it. It's just the wrong people being included is what they're talking about.
Starting point is 07:50:17 Yeah, yes, of course. All right. I think people probably have been waiting for this. We're going to talk about the Cheka today. So let me clear my throat real quick. And here we go. The Cheka, Extraordinary Commission, Cheka, was established in December 1917. It instantly gained strength, and by the beginning of 1918, it was already filling the entire populace with mortal fear.
Starting point is 07:50:46 In fact, it was the Cheka that started the Red Terror long before its' beginning was officially announced on September 5th, 1918. The Cheka practiced terror from the moment of its inception and continued it long after the end of the Civil War. By January of 1918, the Checo was enforcing the death penalty on the spot without investigation and trial. Then the country saw the snatching of hundreds and later thousands of absolutely innocent hostages.
Starting point is 07:51:13 Their mass executions at night are mass drowning in whole barges. Historian S. P. Melganov, who himself happened to experience perilous incarceration in Czech prisons, unforgettably reflected upon the whole epic story of the Red Terror in his famous book, Red Terror in Russia, 1918 through 1923. There was not a single town or a district without an office of the omnipotent All-Russian Extraordinary Commission, which from now on becomes the main nerve of state governance, and absorbs the last vestiges of law. There was not a single place in the Russian Federation
Starting point is 07:51:53 without ongoing executions, a single verbal order of one man, Dersinsky, doomed to immediate death many thousand people. And even when an investigation took place, the Czechists followed their official instructions, quote, do not look for evidence incriminating a suspect in hostile speech
Starting point is 07:52:16 action against Soviet power. The very first question you should ask him is about the social class he belongs to. And what is his dissent, upbringing, education, and profession? It is these questions that should determine the suspect's fate. The words of M. Latzis in the bulletin red terror on November 1st, 1918, and in Pravda on December 25, 1918. Melganov notes, Lazzis was not original here. He simply rephrased the words of Robespierreise. in convent about the mass terror to execute the enemies of the fatherland that is sufficient to establish their identities, not punishment, but elimination is required. Directives from the center are picked up and distributed all over Russia by the Czechos weekly, and Melganov cites the
Starting point is 07:53:04 periodical profusely. Quote, Red Sword is published in Kiev. In an editorial by Lev Craney, we read, old foundations of morality and humanity invented by the bourgeoisie do not and cannot exist for us. A. Certain Schwartz follows. The proclaimed red terror should be implemented in a proletarian way. If physical examination of all servants of czarism and capitalism is a prerequisite for the establishment of the worldwide dictatorship of the proletariat, then it wouldn't stop us. How do you show it a servant of czarism or capitalism? since those two were often opposed you know
Starting point is 07:53:48 that this is and these people noticed that the leaders even at the lower levels of the Czechic organization were not Russian they certainly were not Russian Orthodox these were Jews and I think what happened at the end of World War II
Starting point is 07:54:07 was a certain projection on their part because I'm hearing the same words that were said about the Germans but in fact it's really true about them more than anyone else they're not equals just asking what class they're from
Starting point is 07:54:28 well what if they don't tell the truth I love the dissent his descent to his upbringing that's very loaded but there is no revolution like this that could ever happen that can't have a cheque attached to it they all have to have
Starting point is 07:54:49 whether I don't care if they're from the British on down the glorious revolution on down these left revolutions have to have imposed by violence and they're imposed by violence via a group like the like the Cheka there were no trials there was nothing like this. And of course, clergy and everyone else, servants of czarism, I don't, you know, these
Starting point is 07:55:15 were slogans. They were great when they were picked up by the Western press. But how do you, how do you demonstrate who's a servant and who isn't? And, you know, although the Russian Empire prior to the war was industrializing very rapidly, it was never a capitalist state. you really didn't have a free market there by any means. So there's the simply attaching labels to things that don't make any sense. The only thing that it does do is justify their power. It was a targeted, pre-designed, and long-term terror. Melganov also provides estimates of the body count of that unheard of swing of murders.
Starting point is 07:55:59 Precise numbers were practically not available then. Yet I suppose these horrors pale into significant. insignificance with respect to the number of victims that compared to what happened in the South after the end of the Civil War. Denikins, the General of the White Army in command of the Russian South Russian Front, rule was crumbling. New power was ascending, accompanied by a bloody reign of vengeful terror of mere retaliation. At this point, it was not a civil war. It was physical liquidation of a former adversary.
Starting point is 07:56:30 There were waves and waves of raids, searches, new raids, and arrests. entire wards of prisoners are escorted out and every last man is executed. Because of the large number of victims, a machine gun is used. They execute 15 to 16-year-old children and 60-year-old elders. The following is a quote from a Cheka announcement in the Kuban region. Cossack villages and settlements, which give shelter to whites and greens, that's Ukrainian nationalists, will be destroyed. The entire adult population, executed and all property confiscated.
Starting point is 07:57:01 After Rangel, the white general, left, Crimea was dubbed the All-Russian Cemetery. Different estimates suggest a number of murderers between 120 and 150,000. In Sevastopol, people were not just shot but hanged, hanged by dozens and even by hundreds. Nakamov prospect, a major street, was lined with the corpses of the hanged. People arrested on the streets and hastily executed without trial. Terror in the Crimea continued through 1921. the whites didn't have this capacity they weren't capable of this level of
Starting point is 07:57:39 this was not retaliation by any means although the whites were superior in terms of their command these are some brilliant men that ran them they didn't have the they didn't have the equipment and even though they had money the West refused to sell them anything
Starting point is 07:57:56 even though they had it in their hands in the north the British had destroyed all their ammunition under the excuse that the Germans will get to it in the South they sold it on credit actually with the Americans they sold it on credit to the Bolsheviks
Starting point is 07:58:15 and the deal was that they'll you know certain natural resources will be you know will eventually be exported to pay it off although after World War II all of the debts were cancelled so it's amazing the only time
Starting point is 07:58:31 the capitalists the banking class will cancel a debt is after someone like Hitler is defeated and then you know it's fine and all of this was considered the wave of the future by the Western intellectual class not by everybody but by a huge portion of it a lot of this stuff was not known at the time but was not being circulated
Starting point is 07:58:56 but even if it were the left has no problem with this kind of behavior this is the purifying I mean every Marxist takeover has to do the same thing you know we have to if this is a true revolution in other words remember last time revolution is the total upending of society nothing is left no stone is on another stone everything has to be completely remade from zero if that's going to be the case how can you not have a checka
Starting point is 07:59:28 how can you have you know trials and I this was I wrote my first book the third Rome based on the anger that I got from Western scholars justifying this or really not talking about this or even if they did
Starting point is 07:59:48 not talking about the Jewish nature of this and I eventually lost it and I said this is what I I have to write, I have to put this out. You know, I've been doing it for a long time prior to that. And that book was essentially an outline of my career, my future career, what I was going to do. And there's some truth to that. But the fact, yeah, I already couldn't use a rifle because there were too many victims.
Starting point is 08:00:16 15, 16 year old, well, if there's no trial, you really can't tell how old they are. but the Russian Revolution to this day is romanticized by the left in the Western world the only place, like in the 70s and 80s the only place where Marxism was taken seriously wasn't Britain and France, Italy, America. But no matter how deep we dig into the history of Cheka,
Starting point is 08:00:45 special departments, special squads, too many deeds and names will remain unknown covered by the decomposed remnants of witnesses and the ash of incinerated Bolshevik documents. Yet even the remaining documents are overly eloquent. Here is a copy of a secret extract from the protocol of a meeting of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee
Starting point is 08:01:05 of the All-Russian Communist Party of Bolsheviks, dated by April 18, 1919, obtained from the Trotsky Archive at Columbia University. Yeah, when you talk about these bureaus, you have to take a deep breath first because they're all so long and pompous. Take a deep breath so you don't run out of breath as you're saying it. The Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the only Russian Communist Party of Bolshevik. And that's not the longest one.
Starting point is 08:01:32 They have far longer ones in the future. Absolutely insane. Attended. I love that. Yeah. Attended. Lenin, Kirstensky, Stalin, Trotsky. Heard.
Starting point is 08:01:44 Statement of Trotsky that Jews and Latvians constitute a huge percentage of officials in the frontline Chequess, frontline and rear area executive commissions and central Soviet agencies, and that their percentage in the frontline troops is relatively small, and that because of this, strong chauvinist agitation is conducted among the Red Army soldiers with certain success, and that, according to Trotsky's opinion, it is necessary to redistribute the party personnel to achieve a more uniform representation of officials of all nationalities between front line and rear areas decided to propose Trotsky and Smilga to draft an appropriate directive of the central committee to the commissions responsible for the allotment of cadres
Starting point is 08:02:26 between the central and local Soviet organizations and the front. Yeah, it's a reference to Ivar Smilga, who was from the Baltics. he he he um he um he um fled the ussr with with trotsky as things you know went sour for him um but i'm not a hundred percent sure what trotky says here is does that mean that he wants more jews in the front lines meaning you know like cops that are doing the arresting or or having you know um having the appearance of that um clearly of course you know chauvinous agitation well that doesn't make any sense
Starting point is 08:03:10 if this is a fact and they're admitting it's a fact they just don't like the fact that a lot of these guys who have to carry out these orders many of whom have hostages in Moscow or St. Petersburg are finding out about it
Starting point is 08:03:28 so I think I think he means that maybe we can get more a vaults in here or polls or something like that so as to make it look like this isn't entirely a Jewish idea, but a Jewish offensive.
Starting point is 08:03:48 So they fully admit that this was completely a Jewish thing at the top levels, that people are starting to notice this, including like Latvians and certain Estonians and everything else are going to play a part in the Civil War. You know, whatever he means, he's clearly worried about people realizing that this is a Jewish movement. And maybe we can get others to put to the front. I think that's what he means. Yet it is hard to believe that the meeting produced the intended effect.
Starting point is 08:04:26 A contemporary research for the first who approached the problem of the role in place of Jews and other ethnic minorities in Soviet machinery, study declassified archive documents and concluded that at the initial stage of activity of the punitive agencies during the Red Terror, national minorities constituted approximately 50% of the central Czechos apparatus, with their representation on the major posts reaching 70%. The author provides September 25th, 1918 statistical data. Among the ethnic minorities, numerous Latvians, and fairly numerous polls, the Jews are quite noticeable, especially among major and active Cheka officials, meaning commissars and investigators. For instance, among the investigators of the Department of counter-revolutionary activities,
Starting point is 08:05:13 the most important Cheka department, half were Jews. Yeah, and it isn't like these Latvians or Poles or Estonians believed in collectivization or the total destruction of religion. They were told that they will receive almost independence once the Reds finally take over and the war is over. That's why they were fighting for very different reasons. They weren't necessarily Bolsheviks. And the most blatant example of that was in Ukraine,
Starting point is 08:05:52 where Lenin wrote paper after paper saying that, we fully support Ukrainian nationalism not chauvinism necessarily but we support Ukrainian nationalism because the czar hated it or something like that and then when they took over and the war was over it was smashed immediately
Starting point is 08:06:14 so they were stupid to go along with it but Jews active Bolsheviks on the one hand and those on the fringes of the empire on the other who were doing some of the fighting that were fighting for very different reasons. He lowered the service records of several Chequess of the very first call. This is from the Russian Jewish Encyclopedia. Veniamen Gerson was in the Chekker from 1918 and from 1920.
Starting point is 08:06:42 He was a personal referent to Zürzzynski. Israel Leplowski, a former member of Bun, joined the Bolsheviks in 1917 and worked in the Chekhov from 1918. He was the head of the state political directorate, formerly from the Checa in 1922, of the Poldosk Gubernaia, and later of the special department of Odessa. And he climbed all the way up to the post of head of the OGPU, joint state political directorate, the successor to the Checa of the USSR. are later he occupied posts of narcom of international affairs of bilo rosa bilo rosa and Uzbekistan wow zinov's belarus yeah yeah i should just say that i say Belarus you know it's okay okay zanovi katznelson became a checkist immediately after the october revolution later he was a head of special departments in several armies and then of the entire Russian front.
Starting point is 08:07:49 Still later, we can see him in the highest ranks of the Cheka headquarters. And even later at different times, he was in charge of the Cheka of the Archangel Gubernaya, the Transca Caucasian Czechia, the North Caucasus GPU, the Karkov GPU. He also was deputy to the Narcom of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and deputy head of the entire Gulag. You notice one aspect of this here, and you'll see it as we go further. Of course, the Jews don't have a homeland, and it certainly wasn't Russia, even Soviet, even the USSR. So they move from place to place so they can have absolutely no connection with anyone underneath them. They're always an alien, and the people under them are always strangers.
Starting point is 08:08:42 so they get sent all over the entire empire. They don't know the first thing about these areas. All they know how to do is to, you know, shoot people without a trial. And certainly London wasn't going to worry about, you know, if you shot too many people without trial, that wasn't going to be a huge problem for him. You know, you had the denotification of Germany after World War II, but of course nothing was the case after the end of the Cold War. You did have the anti-bathization of Iraq and they're going to do it again in Syria.
Starting point is 08:09:29 But these people, they're just sent from place to place to place to place. They're always a stranger. They're always an alien. So they have no connection with the people that they rule over. Solomon Mogolevsky was chair of the Ivano-Vosnesk Tribunal in 1917, then in charge of Cheka and Saratov. Later, we find him again in an army tribunal, and after that he was in succession, deputy head of the Bureau of Investigations of the Moscow, Checa, head of Foreign Affairs Department of Checa headquarters, and head of Checa in Transcaucasia. Did Ignatzi Vizner contemplate the scale of his actions when he investigated the case of Nikolay Goumilev? Not likely.
Starting point is 08:10:15 He was too busy. He served in the special section at the Presidium of Checa headquarters. He was the founder of the Bryansk Cheka, and later he was an investigator in the case of the Cronschadt uprising and a special plenipotentiary of the Presidium of the Checa GPU on cases of special importance. It always strikes me that these people have military posts Despite never having seen a battlefield in their entire lives Ever, ever, ever They didn't have TV back then so they couldn't even see it on TV You see a lot of military posts
Starting point is 08:10:49 But what it was, these guys were the political component Every officer, as I said before Had a Bolshevik shadow To make sure that his commands were done In accordance with the party and so that means that the command, even at the mid-level, of all of this stuff, was always very unstable. And, of course, the whites could have taken advantage of that. There's these massive peasant uprisings that were occurring all over the place.
Starting point is 08:11:23 They weren't linked up. It just was, you know, the Soviet Jews had a sense of organization and power and Machiavellianism that the whites and their allies all over the place didn't have. And even reading about it today, we know how it turned out, but even reading about it today, it's tremendous frustration. Lev Lev Lev Lev Velsky, former member of the Bund, was in charge of the Checa at the Simbarsk Gubernaya in 1918 to 1919, later of the Special Department of the Eighth Army,
Starting point is 08:11:57 still later of the Checa of the Ostrachan Gubernaya. beginning of 1921, he was an envoy plenipotentiary of the Central Checa in the Far East, and later, from 1923, an envoy plenipotentiary of the OGPU in Central Asia. Still later, from the beginning of 1930, he worked in the Moscow OGPU. And even later in his career, he was Deputy Narcom of Internal Affairs of the USSR. Or consider Nahum Nelianid Ettington, active in the Checa beginning in 1919, later heading of the Chequah of the Smolensk Gubernaya. Still later, he worked in the GPU of Bashkiria.
Starting point is 08:12:36 It was he who orchestrated the assassination of Trotsky. Isaac Semyon Schwartz, in 1918 to 1919, he was the very first chair of the all-Ukrainian Cheka. He was succeeded by Yakov Lifshitz, who, beginning in 1919, was head of the Secret Operations Division, and simultaneously a deputy head of the Chequah of the Kiev Gubernaya. Later, he was deputy head of the Chekka of the Shernigov Gubernaya and still later of the Karkov Gubernaya. And even later, he was in charge of the operative headquarters of the all-Ukrainian Checa. Still later, in 1921 to 22, he ran the Cheka of
Starting point is 08:13:17 the Kiev Gubernaya. So you see what I mean. They're sent very quickly from place to place. You know, so they have, you know, they don't, there's no connections between them and anyone else. They don't want anyone developing any, uh, uh, sentimental connections with anyone, uh, or any cliques to form. It was a, it was a strategic idea. But you notice, too, that none of these people had any experience or education in law enforcement or military stuff. And yet they were given these positions. It's, it's, I don't know how the whites lost. I know why.
Starting point is 08:13:58 I just don't know how. It was just, and really one of the main reasons, as we all know, is that the West supported the Bolsheviks and not the whites, not at any time, not ever, not ever, ever. Let's look at the famous Matvei Berman. He began his career in a district checka in the North Urals. In 1919, he was assigned as deputy head of the Cheka at the Yakadarindberg, Gubranaia from 1920, head of Cheka of Tomsk, Gubernaya,
Starting point is 08:14:27 from 1923 of the Buryat-Mongol. and Gubernaya from 1924, deputy head of the OGPU of all of Central Asia, from 1928, head of the OGPU of Latavostok, from 1932, head of the entire Gulag and simultaneously a deputy Narcom of the NKVD, which was a successor to the Czech IGPU from 1936. His brother Boris was in the state intelligence organ since 1920. In 1936, he served as deputy head of foreign intelligence section of the NKVD. Boris Pozern, a commissar of the Petrograd Commune, substantially contributed to matching images of a Jew
Starting point is 08:15:08 and that of a Czechist in people's minds. On September 2nd, 1918, he co-signed the proclamation on Red Terra with Zinoviev and Zerzinski. The encyclopedia missed one Alexander Loselovich, or Iosovic, secretary of the Petrograd Cheka, who had co-signed the Red Terror execution,
Starting point is 08:15:29 list with Gleb Boykie in September 1918. Yeah, yeah, there are signatures here. You know, this isn't secret. I remember once the Soviet Union fell, there was some attempt in the early 90s to mix everything up. There was some destruction of records, but not much of it. But by now, it's all, none of this is secret. You could find all of this out, even if you don't speak Russian.
Starting point is 08:15:58 You could find all of this out. There's no question who is running the show here. And I like how Sholzhenitsyn doesn't say that, you know, Jews right and everything. They're 90% of the checker. No, here, here's who they are. And I guarantee you. Now, I've looked up in my, almost everyone here at one time or another. And most of them are from the upper classes.
Starting point is 08:16:24 It came from well-to-do families. And again, making. a mockery of Marxism, because that doesn't make any sense. You know, Marxism was an ethnic movement, as Winston Churchill said. Yet there were others, even more famous individuals. For instance, Yaakov Agronov, a Czechist, phenomenally successful in conducting repressions, he invented Taganskv's conspiracy through which he had killed Gumilev. He directed cruel interrogations of participants of the
Starting point is 08:16:59 crunched that uprising, or take notorious Yaakov Blumpkin, who participated in the assassination of the German ambassador in 1918, he was arrested and later amnestead and then served as Traskid secretariat and later in Mongolia, Transcaucasia, the Middle East, and was shot in 1929. And there were numerous personnel behind every Cheka organizer, and hundreds and thousands of innocents met them during interrogations, in basements, and and during the executions. There were Jews among the victims, too. Those who suffered from the massive communist onslaught on the bourgeoisie were mostly merchants.
Starting point is 08:17:41 In the Malayaka district, a merchant, Yushkevich, was placed on a red-hot cast iron stove by members of a communist squad for failure to pay taxes. From the same source, some peasants who defaulted on the surplus appropriation system were lowered on ropes into water wells to simulate drowning, or during the winter they froze people into ice pillars for failure to pay revolutionary taxes. The particular sort of punishment depended on the imagination of the executioners. Similarly, Coralenko described how two millers named Aronoff and Merkin were extrajudicially shot for not complying with absurd communist mandated prices on flour. Or here is another example. In 1913, former Kiev Governor Sukovkin
Starting point is 08:18:28 advocated innocence of Bayliss's of Baylis. When the Reds came, he was arrested. Thousands of Jews in Kiev signed a position on his behalf, yet the Cheka had him shot nevertheless. Yeah, that's a reference to the ritual murder case. There were a lot of Gentiles, not by any means all, and I don't know if there was pressure put on him. but even when Jews were saying
Starting point is 08:18:58 don't shoot this guy they shot him anyway and there's another piece of evidence that this is a Jewish movement and I you know yeah I'm sure there's no doubt that as the NEP was to collapse in the future
Starting point is 08:19:15 you have some merchants who were getting too independent or refused refusing to pay taxes in this case but they were a tiny minority of those who were repressed. How then can we explain the Russian populace generally regarded the new terror as Jewish terror? Look how many innocent Jews were accused of that.
Starting point is 08:19:35 Why was the perception that Czechos and Jews were all but the same so widespread among both the reds and the whites alike and among the people in general? Who's responsible for that? Many. And the white army is also responsible as we discussed below. Yet not the least among these reasons is because the Czechos themselves, who facilitated this identification by their ardent service on the highest posts in Cheka.
Starting point is 08:19:59 These guys were caricatures of what a Jew is. Remember, they just learned Russian maybe a generation earlier. They probably spoke it with an accent. It was very clear who was dominating them. The White Army's propaganda, if they really pressed on the Jewish issue, it would have been great. but they never really did. They had a few things, a few leaflets and things like that, just spread around.
Starting point is 08:20:29 But, you know, so many of the, you know, De Nican was so worried about Western pressure, you know, their opinion of him that he didn't want to talk about the Jews very much. None of the white generals really wanted to talk about the Jews very much. major ones that we know about every day. Wanted to talk about the Jews because some of these guys, Cornelov, some of these men still were waiting for the allies at the end of the war to come and bail them out. And it never happened. And they still were waiting for it.
Starting point is 08:21:15 So they figured, well, if we talk about the Jews too much, if we make a Jewish issue out of this, which they should have, the British and their French. will be angry at us and they won't help us. Well, they weren't going to be helped anyway. And in my book, the Soviet experiment and other papers, I've written this naifte of the generals of the White Army was just, the major generals of the White Army was just, it's almost, you know, it's almost like they were simping.
Starting point is 08:21:46 There was no rationality for it. You know, they knew it wasn't going to happen, and yet they did it anyway. And it was embarrassing for these men. I mean, these were military men. These weren't governors. But as far as the Soviets go, they didn't have just military men. Their army was political, was it was ideological.
Starting point is 08:22:07 It was everything put together. They never had a doctrine of defense. No such thing in the Marxist world. Everything is offense. It's all one and the same. So that's a big deal. They're not military men in the traditional sense of the term, but the whites were. You know, they were just, it's just a shame.
Starting point is 08:22:33 The whole thing is such a shame. And if one Jew gets called a name during this time, they call it a pogrom. And Russians have to look inward at themselves and try to change. And the same thing was happening then as it is now. It's absolutely awful. Today we hear bitter complaints that it was not only Jews who clung to the power and why any particular clemency should be expected from the Jewish Chekis. True.
Starting point is 08:23:05 These objections, however, cannot alter the harsh certitude. The incredibly enormous power on an unimaginable scale had come into the hands of these Jewish Chekis, who at that time were supreme by status and rank, representatives of Russian jury no matter how horribly it sounds. and those representatives, again, not elected by their own people, were not capable of finding enough self-restraint and self-scrutinizing sobriety to come around, check themselves, and opt out. It is like the Russian cautionary proverb, ah, don't hurry to grab, first blow on your fingers. And the Jewish people, who did not elect those Chekis as their representatives, that already numerous and actively city-dwelling community weren't their prudent elders among them,
Starting point is 08:23:52 also failed to stop them. Be careful, we are a small minority in this country, yet who listened to the elders in that age? Well, it didn't matter. Small minorities make history, as long as they're cohesive and fanatical. You only really need a handful. You could always buttress your numbers
Starting point is 08:24:14 with hostages or mercenaries, like the Reds did. numbers aren't important. It's your level of fanaticism and cohesiveness, and that's the one thing that the Jews had. G. Landau writes, loss of affiliation with a social class overthrew the fine structure of Jewish society
Starting point is 08:24:35 and destroy the inner forces of resistance and even that of stability, sending even them under the chariot of triumphant Bolshevism. He finds that apart from the ideas of socialism, separatist nationalism, and permanent revolution, we were astonished to find among the Jews what we never expected from them. Cruelty, sadism, unbridled violence, everything that seemed so alien to a people so detached from physical activity. Those who yesterday couldn't handle a rifle, today were among the vicious cutthroats.
Starting point is 08:25:09 Yeah, it's amazing. When it's in their interest, my God, they become amazing fighters. You see how the Israeli army could, well, not anymore, but was in the past, defeating enemies far larger than they. Thank God those days are over. But when it comes to their own interest, when it comes to their own cohesiveness, they become, I mean, the Mossad, I mean, let's face it, it's probably the best intelligence organization on the planet. And it has to be because there's so few of them. And, you know, Leonard was able to, you know, using Lenin, having his picture up there, well, he wasn't necessarily. only a Jew. He didn't have a Jewish name. He wasn't, you know, he had a Jewish,
Starting point is 08:25:55 he had a Jewish grandparent, I think. I forgot where he lands on that, or at least was half Jewish. He wasn't obviously so. Trotsky was obviously so. And that kind of distracted people's attention from the Jewish nature of all of it. But for Jews, Jews had lied about themselves for so long that they couldn't believe that, oh, we're capable of this kind of thing. But, yeah, they've always been like that. They just didn't have the opportunity until now. Here is more about the aforementioned Rebecca Plastanina Maizel from the Archangel Guberniaccheca. Infamous for her cruelty all over the north of Russia, she voluntarily perforated napes,
Starting point is 08:26:43 naps and foreheads. I never know how to pronounce napes or if it's napes or naps. and personally shot more than 100 men, or about one Baca who was nicknamed a bloody boy for his youth in cruelty, first in Tomsk, and then as the head of the Cheka of the Irkutsk Gubernaia. Plastinina's career carried her up right to a seat in the Supreme Court of the RSFSR, which she occupied in the 1940s. Some may recall the punitive squad of Mandelbaum, in Archangel in the north of Russia, others, the squad of Mishka Jopanchik in Ukraine. Pretty sure she's not a lawyer.
Starting point is 08:27:28 And yet she sits on the Supreme Court, typical of this era in the USSR. What would you expect from peasants in the Tambovah Guburnaya if during the heat of the suppression of the great peasant uprising in the central Russian black earth region, the dismal den of the Tombof Gubcom, was inhabited by masterminds of grain allotments, secretaries of G. G. G. G. Schlichter, and by the head of the Propaganda Department, E. G. Schlichter, whom we remember from Kiev in 1905, was there as well, this time as the commissioner of the executive committee of the Gubernaia.
Starting point is 08:28:07 Y. Golden was the Foodstuffs Commissioner of the Tembuff Gubernaya. It was he who triggered the uprising by exorbitant confiscations of grain, whereas one N. Margolin, commander of a grain confiscation squad, was famous for whipping the peasants who failed to provide grain, and he murdered them too. According to Kakurin, who was the chief of the staff to Kukashvsky, a plenipotentiary representative of the Czech of headquarters and the Tambarf Bernaya during that period was Lev Levin. Of course, not only Jews were in it, however, when Moscow took the suppression of the uprising into her own hands, in February 1921, the Supreme Command of the operation was assigned to Ephraim Skzgonsky,
Starting point is 08:28:54 the head of the interdepartmental anti-banditry commission, and so the peasants notified that with leaflets were able to draw their own conclusions. What difference does it make if they whip them for debt as they did
Starting point is 08:29:12 in the Dejaven Commission we talked about a long time ago? or if they whip them now, whether they're in this, among, they work for the state or they're just, you know, powerful, wealthy bankers. What difference does it make? It's the exact same thing, especially back then. And I am shocked by the fact, and I shouldn't be, but I am, that every time there is, and there were endless uprisings, the Jews can't make sense out of it how could they possibly be upset that we're taking everything they have
Starting point is 08:29:50 don't they realize we're creating paradise here I mean there's something in the there's a neurosis there that doesn't have a name and I've come across this many many times they can't make sense out of it it seems to be obvious every once in a while you'll find a Jew who will say okay we know why
Starting point is 08:30:11 they were starving people but by and large they they didn't really have a whole lot of conceptual conflict here they really wondered why it has to be some foreign must be foreign capitalists or something like that or monarchists somewhere
Starting point is 08:30:32 that are causing these uprisings they couldn't put two and two together which is such a shocking and ridiculous way of thinking and yet these are the people who again having no connection with agriculture or the distribution of grain or grain or anything in the rural world except by exploitation these are the people who now control you they despise you and there's no way you could win
Starting point is 08:31:00 because even if you went along with what they said you're going to starve you can't win either way and and when you know one of these guys were shot when there was an organized uprising they look around going what did we do i don't there's something in that jewish mind at the time that needs needs i you know i thought about it for many years one day i'll come up with a name for it and what should we say about the genocide on the river don when hundreds of thousands of the flower of Don Cossacks were murdered. What should we expect from the Cossack memories when we take into consideration all those unsettled accounts between a revolutionary Jew and a Don Cossack?
Starting point is 08:31:47 In August 1919, the voluntary army took Kiev and opened several Czechos and found the bodies of those recently executed. Shulgin composed nominal lists of victims using funeral announcements published in the reopen Kiev-Lionin. One can't help noticing that almost all names were Slavic. It was the chosen Russians who were shot. Materials produced by the Special Investigative Commission in the south of Russia provide insights into the Kiev-Cheka and its command personnel based on the testimony of a captured Cheka interrogator. Quote, the head count of the Checa staff varied between 150 and 300.
Starting point is 08:32:28 Percentage-wise, there was 75% Jews and 25% others, and those in charge were almost exclusively Jews. Out of 20 members of the commission, the top brass who determined people's destinies, 14 were Jews. All detained were kept either in the Cheka building or in the Lukianov prison. A special shed was fitted for executions in the building on Institute Street 40. On the corner was Lavash Gavkaya Street, where the main Checa office of the Gubernaia had moved from Akaterina Skaia Street, an executioner and sometimes amateur Chekis escorted a completely
Starting point is 08:33:10 naked victim into a shed and ordered the victim to fall face down on the ground. Then he finished the victim with a shot in the back of the head. Executions were performed using revolvers, typically cults. Usually because of the short distance, a skull of the executed person exploded into fragments. The next victim was similarly escorted inside and laid down nearby. When number of victims was exceeding, the capacity of the shed, new victims were laid down right upon the dead and were shot at the entrance of the shed. Usually the victims went to their executioner without resistance. What the hell does this have to do with workers or labor?
Starting point is 08:33:49 This has nothing to do with it. That's not what this movement was. They used the verbiage of it. I know right the second, some idiot in front of a university classroom is talking about the uprising of Russian workers against the czar the Bolsheviks were as flawed as they might be dedicated to improving the lot of workers and peasants I mean they really say that because the Bolsheviks say it and they wrote it down therefore it must be true you know sometimes it's really hard to get a it's hard to argue with people like this there's nothing to grab
Starting point is 08:34:29 on to. There's nothing rational to grab onto here. We know why they say what they say. They don't know why. And especially the younger ones who came of age, younger professors who came of age in the world of censorship, they may not know. The older ones, when I was in grad school, they knew. There was one incident where professor of political science had too many shots and he admitted to me that he knew that he wasn't telling the truth. basically and that the provost said that you professors can't go out with students anymore it was a minor scandal but the older the younger ones now they don't know why they think this this has nothing to do with workers or labor this is the
Starting point is 08:35:24 is bad enough that the cream of Russian infantry was slaughtered in World War I now we have this, you know, and the whites didn't have a chance, unfortunately. Let's do one paragraph, and then we're going to get into the Cronstadt uprising, so it sort of changes. This is what the people were whispering about, or take another incident, witnessed by Remezov, whom it is hard to suspect of anti-Semitism giving his revolutionary democratic past. Recently, there was a military training nearby at the academy, and one red army. Army soldiers said, comrades, let's not go to the front. It is all because of Yids that we fight. And someone with a briefcase asked him, which regiment are you from? And the soldier again,
Starting point is 08:36:10 Comrades, let's not go to the front. It's all because he yids. And that one with a briefcase ordered shoot him. Then two other Red Army soldiers came out and the first one tried to flee, but he didn't make it to the corner as others got him and shot him. His brain spilled over and there was a pool of blood. Well, that's why this is such a great book. And that is in English because this, you know, adds, you know, a tremendous, you know, all of these accounts of how this was actually done and how irrational the entire thing was and that no one was ever taken to account for it.
Starting point is 08:36:51 It's just, you know, this is a very depressing part of, of history. you did have I mean those who would say let's not go to the front there were people who actually believed that socialism
Starting point is 08:37:06 had something to do with labor that labor could be their treatment could be improved whatever that they were idealists of some kind or another
Starting point is 08:37:15 and eventually they got the they started to realize that this is not the case these guys don't care at all about labor none of these things
Starting point is 08:37:26 had anything to do with workers or improving there. And we talked about how a few, I guess last month, but how in the 1905 rebellion, they were forcing strikes at gunpoint in Moscow and elsewhere. They didn't want to strike. They made them strike. Any other they didn't have to work, so I guess that's a benefit.
Starting point is 08:37:52 And that these are the people who claim to speak for labor. for workers, not just in the Soviet Union, but in the entire world. Of course, there's going to be a reaction to it in Western Europe. Of course there's going to be. And you can go to prison in the EU for talking about this stuff. And we all know plenty of people who've been there. Bringing this stuff up in Germany, bringing this stuff up in Britain is considered incitement. And off you go.
Starting point is 08:38:23 you were just mentioning this basic historical truth and this is only the beginning this is just the start it's extremely you know this demonic is the only term if it was strictly human
Starting point is 08:38:39 and there were just utilitarians okay it doesn't make sense there was a more spiritual element to it a demonic element to it that the hatred of logos the hatred of what monarchy and what monarchy represents and how that worked itself out in policy.
Starting point is 08:38:59 You can't compare this at all to say something like the American Revolution or the NS Revolution in Germany. There is no comparison. You can't connect the two things. This is the perfection of what they started in France. The bourgeois revolution became the so-called workers' revolution,
Starting point is 08:39:24 although workers had absolutely nothing to do with it. And people shouldn't be fooled. There were whites who were escaping to Germany and hooking up with a national socialist and telling them exactly what was happening there and who was doing it. There was no jealousy because Jews have money or anything like that.
Starting point is 08:39:47 No. Or, oh, because they've won how many? Bell Prizes? Yeah, I mean, all right, sure. But that's like, to me, that's like Academy Awards. It's like you're just giving it to whoever you like, you know, but. Exactly right. Yeah. So you're, the National Socialist knew. They knew, they knew who was doing this, who was, who was committing all of this murder, this mass murder in Russia. They knew who, they knew about the Balfour Declaration and how if the United States got into because the United States got into the war, the Balfour Declaration, and that's why they lost
Starting point is 08:40:27 and that's why they were starved. They knew all of this stuff. It wasn't two authoritarian groups fighting against each other. Now, this was just basically, this was a war for civilization. And one group wanted to destroy all of civilization. And the other group wanted to destroy who was destroying civil who wanted to destroy civilization it's that friggin it's it's not that simple but it's a good start if you want to start understanding exactly what happened yeah your typical mainstream conservative like you know the crisis magazine type or even the early neocons like hana arendt they'll talk about those two movements as as totalitarian um they're they're pretty much the same. And they, you know, it's simply not the case. One's a reaction to the other. What's
Starting point is 08:41:19 going to happen in Western Europe, of course, there's going to be a reaction to finding out about this stuff. They're coming for us because the world revolution is right in Marxism. It's not just there. All revolutions have to be exported. The Civil War has to be exported. And yet, you did have the extreme of refugees that were coming out of the new USSR telling people about it. And especially after the Civil War was over, you had refugees taking, you know, all over the world at this point, who were telling everyone about it. And, of course, the U.S. continued to invest in the early Soviet Union, invest in their electric, their automotive. of, again, Henry Ford, I'll never understand his largest truck plant was in eastern Ukraine. Closer than that's, in fact.
Starting point is 08:42:18 And that became the foundation for Soviet all Soviet automotives, including trucks. There's profit to be made. You know, this was a huge market. They didn't have access to it before, but they do now. and somehow that's okay, even from the socialist point of view, that's okay. You know, so using these words, these labels, this is almost a childlike. This is, you know, attaching labels to things. That's a, that's not knowledge.
Starting point is 08:42:52 It's a substitute for knowledge. Yeah, I just finished a couple episodes. I think we have to do another on Marx and what he really taught. Dialectical materialism, what it was about, what he was about, what he, believed. If you, if you understand dialectical materialism and then you look at exactly what they're doing, you realize that there's, there's nothing in common. To call this Marxist, all you've done is taken a term and you're using it for no other reason than it you're trying to, it's basically a diversion. It's something to make people believe you're doing something other than what you're doing
Starting point is 08:43:28 because what they're doing, it has nothing to do with dialectical materialism. This isn't about one's labor and how it you know and how it translates into reality yeah there were no no uh working class was ever so violently exploited as the soviet especially when they started you know they there was no days off they got rid of sunday they got rid of holy days they got rid of fasting days of course it was an atheist state um but um i don't know if we did a show on you know you've you've you've come across right wingers who talk about the Hegelian dialectic like they know what they're talking about sure well i mean my friend thomas is a hegelian and he knows exactly what he's talking about but people use hegelian dialectic and they use it very loosely they use it very loosely
Starting point is 08:44:17 so i i wrote a paper years ago um trying to set the record straight i did lecture on it uh at least one I've been a Higelian, you know, much of my life. And once I could penetrate it, which is so, you know, it takes a long time to be able to penetrate him. He's so difficult, almost deliberately so. But I have a paper, I think it's not that long on what it means, what the dialectic actually is in Hengel's sense. And it has nothing to do with what your typical, you know, patriot, conservative thinks, things it has to do with. That might be worth a show just in and of itself.
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