The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Episodes 81-90

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

8 Hours and 49 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Here are e...pisodes 81-90 in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. This is episode 81. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? Well, did you tell everyone while we were not doing this for a couple weeks? I didn't want to tell you no. I didn't want to say anything without your permission, so go ahead. I was in the hospital for four and a half days with all kinds of things that I've been putting off for years. and I finally just, you know, everything gave in at once.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And I'm back. I'm like 75, 80%, you know, I normally don't get sick, so I let everything go. Although in this case, you know, for a decade. So I'm better off. I'm ready to get back to work. And that's the reason for my absence. But I have to tell you something. And I don't know how many listeners understand this.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I think that I had a glimpse into hell and there was a specific reason I was very briefly put on beta blockers I don't have a huge it's not really a heart thing necessarily but
Starting point is 00:01:12 and I wouldn't call these nightmares these were metaphysical these were these were total dissolution these were so frightening that despite my extraordinary capacity to describe things I can't describe things
Starting point is 00:01:27 I can't describe them to you. These were the nightmares. I don't even, their nightmares is a very weak term for them. Beta blockers are known for that, but maybe not that severe. So I said it's a toss-up. If I was going to die,
Starting point is 00:01:42 maybe it would be, I'd have to think about it. But it was a horrible, horrible chemical that they gave. Now I'm on something else. But beta blockers are straight from hell. for what the the um you know i hated going to sleep and everything it was uh i'm i'm convinced that i saw something i wasn't near dead none of this was life threatening or anything but
Starting point is 00:02:06 beta blockers uh um the nightmares were beyond extraordinary let me put it that way can only imagine and speaking of hell speaking of hell we're at the worst part of this book Soviet Union in the 1920s as close as a normal person it's going to get this was a depressing demented decade until Lenin's death
Starting point is 00:02:32 in 25 or so and this was a period of all these social experimentation. The Jews had total free reign it was a horrible error so and that's where we pick up
Starting point is 00:02:50 I guess All right. Here we go. Back at it. Chapter 18 in the 1920s. The 20s in the Soviet Union was an epoch with a unique atmosphere, a grand social experiment which intoxicated world liberal opinion for decades. And in some places, this intoxication still persists. However, almost no one remains of those who drank deeply of its poisonous spirit. the Western press was making up all kinds of crap Alexander Colentai was introducing the first sexual revolution at least in the Christian era and just easy divorce easy abortion
Starting point is 00:03:35 the society fell apart to such an extent that they had to stop all that and social experimented well they're experimenting on people but the Western press was saying this was a wave of the future and you had, you know, to this day, yeah, of course it's still persisted. It persists in universities, everywhere else. This was an error of liberation. Even when all the evidence came out that it was exactly the opposite of that, it doesn't affect anybody. Truth doesn't matter here.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's the support of Jewish power. And this was complete Jewish power. And any time they're going to take over completely, this is what's going to happen. The uniqueness of that spirit was manifested in the ferocity of, of class antagonism, in the promise of a never-before-seen new society, in the novelty of new forms of human relationships, in the breakdown of the nation's economy, daily life and family structure, the social and demographic changes were, in fact, colossal. The great exodus of the Jewish populations of the capitals began, for many reasons,
Starting point is 00:04:39 during the first years of communist power. Some Jewish writers are categorical in their description. thousands of Jews left their settlements in a handful of southern towns from Moscow, Leningrad, and Kiev to find real life. I wonder what that means. These were staffing all of the new political positions, all the new offices. Of course, you know, the state was already ten times bigger than ever was in the Tsarist era. It's tough to build a totalitarian society in Russia. is large, but new technologies were emerging. Of course, the West was giving it all away, or at least selling it to a discount to the Soviets.
Starting point is 00:05:20 There was no threat to any capitalist interest. They were trading as brisk as you could possibly imagine with these people. Banks were set up shop. Class antagonism was more of an excuse than anything else. I mean, Soviet Union was an oligarchy. So both party and ethnic, class antagonism. but that was just rhetorical more than anything else but real life was to get you know to take part of this and and if you were a Jew at the time um unless you just were disgusted by this and there were a bunch
Starting point is 00:05:55 that that were overwhelmingly this was as close as jews paradise as they they can get and they were rushing in to take these new jobs and um and people people started to notice this that people are going away to prison and disappearing, and all these names don't sound like Russian names who were involved in shipping these people away. Beginning in 1917, Jews flooded into Leningrad and Moscow. According to the Jewish encyclopedia, hundreds of thousands of Jews moved to Moscow, Leningrad, and other major centers. In 1920, 28,000 Jews lived in Moscow. By 1923, about 86,000. According to 1926, USSR census, 131,000, and in 1933, 226,500, Moscow became fashionable. They used to say half seriously in Odessa.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, it didn't become, you know, I don't like it when they use the passive voice. It didn't become fashionable. They made it fashionable. Lurie Lorin, a fanatical and zealous Bolshevik leader during war communism, writes that in the first year, is not less than a million Jews left their settlements. In 1923, about half of Ukraine's Jews lived in large cities, pouring as well into parts of Russia formerly off limits to Jews, so-called prohibited provinces, from Ukraine and Belarusia, into Transcaucasia and Central Asia. The magnitude of this flow was half a million, and four-fifths of them settled in RSFSR. One in five of the Jewish migrants went to Moscow.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, so it's a Russian Soviet Republic. Yeah, this, you know, and we talked about this already, the so-called forbidden provinces. Now, they went, they went wherever they wanted. It was, no way to keep track of them. And this is prior to the Rev. I'm talking about, you know, the Tsarist era, even the early white era. But, you know, that was hypothetical more than anything else. But that's, this is what's behind all of this.
Starting point is 00:08:08 is that they're seeing opportunity here. Then only can they come in and take over and take over the wealth of other, kick people out of home and then move right in. These are sociopathic peoples. They had no difficulty with the idea that, you know, the old nobility, despite so many of them supported them initially, and they all get kicked out of their houses. They didn't, they were no, it wasn't an official nobility in Russia for the most part.
Starting point is 00:08:31 But, you know, these either people were killed or set in exile or sent into the camps, which did exist at the time and they moved right into their houses, no problem and not to mention political power, not to mention totally new economic connections, especially with the West. Western capital was flooding to the country and makes such a mockery of Marxism
Starting point is 00:08:56 because Marxism would say that such a society would be a threat to capitalism. Now, quite the contrary. Capitalists saw opportunities and capital came pouring in even right up until and within and afterward, the Great Depression. Emma Gorski considers Lauren's numbers to be substantially undercounted and points out that demographic change affected interests, importance of the Russian population. During war communism, with its ban on private trade and limitations on craftsmen
Starting point is 00:09:30 and those of certain social origins, there arose a new social category. the deprived, deprived of civil rights. Many, quoting, many Jews were deprived of civil rights and numbered among the deprived. Still the, quote, migration of the Jewish population from Bilo-Rosia into the interior of the USSR, mainly to Moscow and Leningrad, did not slow. The new arrivals joined relatives or co-ethics who offered communal support. It's a slight of hand referring to civil rights. There are no civil rights in Marxism. It's a metaphysical concept.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I've been reading Karl Marx since I was 18. He completely rejects these metaphysical ideas. There's no such thing as civil rights. That was absolutely a nonsense phrase to any Marxist at any level, at any point in its history. So I don't know who these Jews are. I love how this guy writes in the abstract, making it seem like this wasn't a Jewish movement but saying that they were deprived of civil rights
Starting point is 00:10:37 you see the fraud here there were no civil rights to begin with Marxism had no room for that there was no conception of it it was a materialist system civil rights don't make any sense in a materialist system you know as a society and ideology based entirely on
Starting point is 00:10:54 you know atoms in the void and nothing else there's no soul there's no essences there's no humanity there's no only Darwin and so it's funny I don't know the original whether this was written in Russian or Yiddish or what but the phrase civil rights made me smile
Starting point is 00:11:13 because there is no such thing in Marxism so he could say something like that and everyone will gasp oh my God poor Jews but the concept was totally foreign to Marxism at any time in any level at any point and that's history from Karl Marx to today according to the 1927
Starting point is 00:11:31 U.S.S.R. Census, 2.2,211, or 83% of the Jewish population lived in cities and towns. 467,000 lived in rural districts. Another 300,000 did not identify themselves as Jews, and these were practically all city dwellers. About five out of six Jews in the USSR were urban dwellers, constituting up to 23 to 40% of the urban population in Ukraine and Belarusia, respectively. What does that mean? Another 300,000 did not identify themselves as Jews. Either they didn't identify literally or they didn't write it down in the census. But if that's the latter is the case, then it was a lot more than 300,000.
Starting point is 00:12:18 We spent months talking about how they evaded census counts and everything else. I don't know if they mean literally like writing it down or Jews. I don't know why they wouldn't, or that they actually said we just weren't, and we were counted in there. These numbers are estimates at most. And Jewish cities and towns, that's not interesting. They're always, they're city dwellers. The only reason they'll ever live in rural districts is to take advantage of the peasantry and run, whether it be brothels, you know, you can find them in the bars and alcohol, beyond the law. But the cities, I mean, that's where the political power was going to be.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And they were always an urban people anyway. So the 83% that sounded pretty much normal at any time in Russia or Soviet history. Most striking the provincial capitals in major cities was the flow of Jews into the apparatus of the Soviet government. Orshanazidzzydsky in 1927 at the 15th Communist Party Congress reported on the national makeup of our party. By his statistics, Jews constituted 11.8% of the Soviet government of Moscow, 22.6% in Ukraine, 30.3% in Karkoff, the capital. 30.6% in Belarusia, 38.3% in Minsk. If true, then the percentage of Jews in urban areas about equal that of Jews in the government. These numbers are false. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:55 They're told, and it's a big deal for them to downplay the Jewish element to it. Jews were a privileged caste here. Now, I don't know the difference between being in a government, meaning having an office, literally and figuratively having an office, and simply having political power in the communist state. So there can also be another slight of hand. Make up of our party, well, that's one thing, because a party in the state, were always two different things. 11.8% of the Soviet government.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, the eyewitnesses of the day and went to exile said this is a nonsense number. Of course, you know, the famous Georgian said, you know, he followed orders. The overall percentage of Jews in Russia at the time was 1.5%. Males, anyway. So I'll challenge these numbers,
Starting point is 00:14:53 but even as they stand, Jews have a lot to answer for but I think they're much higher and I don't know it's hard to tell whether he means just the party or the party in the state how he's defining
Starting point is 00:15:04 political power or whatever now he's all over because he says the party then he says Soviet government well I'm not sure which what he means but these numbers are much higher
Starting point is 00:15:15 but you know the Soviets were always very image conscious and they didn't like this notion you know Stalin said the same thing to the Hungarians I said my God every name is Jewish. You've got to get a creative presidency that has no power and find
Starting point is 00:15:28 some guy who's not a Jew and stick him there. And it took him a long time, but they found one. Sandals, I think, his name. And they stuck him there. He didn't do anything. So they're very concerned about this kind of thing. And they were
Starting point is 00:15:44 anti-Jewish movements. The exile movement was very anti-Jewyic and for very good reason. And I guarantee you that they laughed at these numbers at the time. Solomon Schwartz, using data from the work of Lev Singer, maintained that the percentage of Jews in the Soviet government was about the same as their percentage of the urban population, and it was significantly lower in the Bolshevik party itself.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Using Orshana Kedzi's data, Jews at 1.82% of the population by 1926 were represented in the apparatus at about 6.5 times their proportion in the population at large. Solomon Schwartz I've dealt with him myself this is the same guy who had to leave the Soviet Union because he was afraid that they weren't killing enough
Starting point is 00:16:33 non-Jews, enough anti-Semites he was one of the leaders of the creation of the anti-Semitic laws and everything else he was he was of course at the time he was there but I think he is absolutely full of it he can't you know say that the Soviet Union wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:49 you know opposed to anti-Semitism enough and then turn around and say oh yeah but they totally dominated everything he can't say that so he's absolutely going to um he has every motive to to downplay these these numbers so 6.5 that may be but i guarantee it's much higher much higher than that and we know some of this because when solon purged this same generation the number of jews were so overwhelming these numbers can't be literally true not to mention the fact that we've talked about again
Starting point is 00:17:26 how the Jews have been able to hide their identities they change their names they move from place to place they're moving all over the place that's been the theme here is that they're moving all over the place no one knows who's who yet this is still a very new society so and they know what they're doing in terms of acting as this mafia organization they don't want their names known for cosmetic reasons if for nothing else still
Starting point is 00:17:52 being in Jew at this time. This was a promised land. It's easy to underestimate the impact of the sudden freedom from pre-revolutionary limits on civil rights. Quote, earlier power was not accessible to Jews at all, and now they had more access to power than anyone else, unquote, according to I. Beacerman. The sudden change provoked a varied reaction in all strata of society. Schwartz writes, quote, from the mid-20s, there arose a new way. of anti-Semitism, which was, quote, not related to the old anti-Semitism nor a legacy of the past. I wonder why. Quote, it is an extreme exaggeration to explain it as originating with backwards workers from rural areas as anti-Semitism generally was not a fact of life in the
Starting point is 00:18:41 Russian countryside. No, it was a much more dangerous phenomenon. It arose in the middle strata of urban society and reached the highest levels of the working class, which before the revolution had remained practically untouched by the phenomenon. Quote, it reached students and members of the Communist Party and the Qamsamal and even earlier local government in smaller provincial towns where an aggressive and active anti-Semitism took hold. I can't.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Why would that even happen? I'm shocked. Yeah, I'm no clue. There's gambling. I know. But this is against Solomon Schwartz. And he's responding to the official state explanation. And the official state explanation was that you have backwards workers from the countryside.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Because all Goli, Ameri, Semites, you know, they're born that way. And when they came into the cities as the earlier, you know, the very beginnings of industrialization, Western investment took place, they were kind of out of place. They were totally lost And somehow that means You're going to be an anti-Semite There was never any good reason for, obviously So you can prosecute it But Solomon
Starting point is 00:20:01 will say that You know, he's not entirely wrong Because, you know, you could see The tremendous power that Jews had How they use it without any responsibility whatsoever To this day, they won't take responsibility for anything And wherever wherever they went
Starting point is 00:20:18 especially in the punitive organs because they were always being watched even at this early date they were building a totalitarian system at least in the major cities but Swartz kind of became famous at the time by rejecting the official
Starting point is 00:20:33 explanation and but he stopped short because he can't he can't say he probably knows but he can't say he can go so far as to say no it's something different It's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's totally irrational. And then that's it. It puts a period there. Of course, we know exactly why. The persecutions of the church, mass killings, the camps were developed and functioning, even as a proportion of the economy already. There weren't quite called gulagia yet, but there were supposed to be re-education camps. All this stuff was already done. So, and the punitive organs were all heavily Jewish at the top.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Solzhenitsyn says this Everyone's Russian liberals were saying this Russian liberals say it and even now But he can't say that This guy can't say that They have to maintain the myth That anti-Jewish feeling or thought or action Is inherently irrational
Starting point is 00:21:33 And it's because we're superior to them And they hate it And so they're going to irrational Like a cornered animal They're going to lash out So you know Bekerman And we already, we dealt with him before.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He was one of these guys who says, you know, it's kind of our fault. But Schwartz, not in a million years. And I read his stuff, you know, because he was there at the time, of course. And I know he's full of it. And he does too, but he can't, you know, he can't, he can't, he has to maintain the myth. And that's what he does in all of his writings. And he was the guy, despite all of the attacks on anyone who said anything, bad about the Jews, it was never enough.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He wanted something in the Constitution that said, you know, not just in general hatred of one group, no, that Jews rule the society, that's a good thing, and anyone who contradicts it or complains about it goes to the camps. That's what he wanted. And he says that openly. Then he leaves the country at some point. It's saying that, you know, anti-Semitism is everywhere. It's even in the Jewish party apparatus.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's not even know how he's defining that. and in his books he gives these stupid examples everything's a program to him you know it's all the same but they like that today but he talks about a factory he was called name um dude got slapped by somebody
Starting point is 00:23:00 I did a whole lecture on this not too long ago um I didn't want to deal with Schwartz we came up all the time and um and that was all pogroms to him and he would exaggerate it and people went to jail for it and even the word Jew even today
Starting point is 00:23:18 you can't say Jew if they say Jewish people or Jewish man or Jewish woman you can't say Jew didn't say jid there or anything like that so that's what he's talking about and he eventually left the country saying
Starting point is 00:23:30 you know it's going to be a slaughter of course it never was everyone the slightest word against the Jews led to prison especially this era but he was a He wanted this in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Not that anyone gave a damn about a piece of paper then, but that was his whole thing. To him, the Soviet Union was an instrument of Jewish power and nothing more. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that from the beginning of the 20th century, quote, through official Soviet propaganda, writes that anti-Semitism in that later part of the 20s was a legacy of the past. The facts show that it arose mainly as a result of colliding social forces in large cities, end quote. It was fanned by the, quote, widely held opinion that power in the country had been seized by Jews who formed the nucleus of the Bolsheviks, end quote. Beekerman wrote with evident concern in 1923 that, quote, the Jew is in all corners and on all levels of power,
Starting point is 00:24:39 end quote. Quote, the Russian sees him as a ruler of Moscow at the head of the capital of Neva and at the head of the Red Army, a perfected death machine. He sees that St. Vladimir Prospect has been renamed Nakimson Prospect. The Russian sees the Jew as judge and hangman. He sees Jews at every turn, not only among the communists, but among people like himself, everywhere doing the bidding of Soviet power. Not surprising, the Russian comparing present with past is confirmed in his idea that power is Jewish power, that it exists for Jews and does the bidding of Jews. I love how he throws in Beekerman.
Starting point is 00:25:18 He's quoting the Jewish Encyclopedia, and you can't expect anything else from them. It's actually pretty reasonable as far as Jewish encyclopedia goes. Then he throws in Beekerman, obviously a Jewish name, saying the Jews in all corners, all levels of power. Lots of people, you know, say that at the time. Jews say that at the time. So, but, you know, it's almost like the encyclopedia,
Starting point is 00:25:41 is semi-admitting these things but by putting in words like perception or conceived of it's kind of a barrier you know there's not coming out and admitting it but they're kind of emitting it
Starting point is 00:25:53 and you know what the Jewish Encyclopedia would have to explain then is why Lenin over and over again said that the reason that anti-Semitism has to be destroyed and again I've said this before
Starting point is 00:26:09 but anti-Semitism they're not Semites. They're Khazars. They're a mixed group of people. They have no connection with Middle East. God knows the Old Testament. But we say that just because it's a common word. But it irritates the hell out of me. But they have to explain why Lenin said anti-Semitism is criticism of the USSR. Criticism of the USSR is criticism of Jews. He said that so many times it became like a bumble sticker at the time. Stalin said that early in his. reign too. Later on it was a different story when Zionism developed and the Soviet started supporting Syria and Iraq, a little different then. But in this era, Lenin, I quoted Lenin in speeches that are based entirely on that concept. If you were anti-Semite, by definition, you were anti-Sovian. If you're anti-Soviet. If you're anti-Soviet, by definition, you're an anti-Semite. And the Jewish encyclopedia has to explain Lenin's statements in many different media to that effect.
Starting point is 00:27:13 No less visible than Jewish participation in government was a suddenly created new order in culture and education. The new societal inequality was not so much along the lines of nationality as it was a matter of town versus country. The Russian reader needs no explanation of the advantages bestowed by Soviet power from the 20s to the 80s on capital cities when compared to the rest of the country. One of the main advantages was a level of education. and range of opportunities for higher learning.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Those established during the early years of Soviet power in capital cities assured their children and grandchildren future decades of advantages vis-à-vis those in the country. The enhanced opportunities in post-secondary education and graduate education meant increased access to the educated elite. Meanwhile, from 1918, the ethnic Russian intelligentsia was being pushed to the margins. And that wasn't just a matter. Again, it was pushed.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You know, like this was, it's just to happen. It fell from the sky. This was official policy. It came into its own under Stalin. And some idiots call him a Russian nationalist and nonsense like this. Never heard of the Leningrad purges, which were violently anti-Russian. Not just pushed to the margins. I mean, almost literally.
Starting point is 00:28:35 But it's a metaphor saying that they're totally exploited. They're not allowed to have power in their own country. which now didn't exist since it was a sunk into the USSR and the one group of people that the that Lenin personally and then the party more generally distrusted was the Russian, the ethnic Russian because there were so many of them at the time and they were considered untrustworthy.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Again, the Jews have to explain why. If it wasn't a Jewish society, why would they worry about, you know, even Russian members of the party were constantly being launched because, you know, Russians are born, anti-Semites. We have to watch them all the time. We can't really trust them. And so when Stalin got rid of this generation,
Starting point is 00:29:20 because they were professional revolutionaries, they really weren't, you know, they were bureaucrats of a sort. We've talked about this before. And he needed to replace them with professionals, not just, you know, revolutionaries and Jewish nationalists and all kinds of weirdos who saw an opportunity for power. he needed to actually run an industrialized country
Starting point is 00:29:41 despite an industry coming from the West and I had nothing to do with that they were Jewish or not but that means the entire thing was Jewish we talked about why Stalin being called an anti-Semite and well what a scam it is because your typical
Starting point is 00:29:56 academic today can say yes Stalin was an anti-Semite because so many of the people who he threw out of power were Jews it's not a coincidence of well they could say that or they could say that well, the party was Jewish, the state was Jewish. So when you purge anybody, any faction is going to be massively Jewish.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So either you admit that or you say the Stalin was an inter-Semite. So, of course, you're going to go with the latter. And God knows, education was ideologically stilted, just like American college educators today. you are you're held to ideological standards if you questioned anything you were you were doing Darwinism or anything like that you were thrown out God knows what else it's like you know they had this
Starting point is 00:30:47 literacy campaign well literacy to read what you know their propaganda Darwin and all this stuff and that's about it so you know literacy is just an abstraction that was high literacy in all the cities in SARS Russia but the Soviets are given these accolades for that
Starting point is 00:31:03 but the point is to be able to read what there's no such thing as abstract literally so that's what's happening here so they're you know be careful when they use these phrase post-secondary education well that what that came I don't care what fields you were in you had to tow the line you weren't allowed to talk you say you went into literature or something like that you couldn't talk about Dostiski anymore there was a whole new slew of Soviet writers who were financed by the state. And these were the new people you were reading and studying.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Socialist realism took over within a few years. We'll get to that, I guess, at some point. And so, you know, again, they call it culture. This is an anti-culture. It's like our postmodern anti-culture. The culture, you know, there was no such concept. It was simply political power coming from a very arrogant, Jewish rule in a couple of cities
Starting point is 00:32:06 way out of proportion to their numbers and the hatred and so many of the exiles hundreds of thousands of exiles also the same thing that the hatred was palpable and if it wasn't for the existence of Christians or Russians they just kill each other so they always needed this mythic enemy
Starting point is 00:32:27 of the Russian or the Tsarist or their black hundred clergy as Lenin called to maintain peace among themselves but this is how they maintain power again in the 20s it still was unclear whether they were going to stay in power the peasantry wanted nothing to do with them
Starting point is 00:32:47 and well they grew the food they were in constant rebellion so it wasn't obvious that the Soviet was going to be maintained the only reason that they were was cash and fuel and capital and everything else from the Western powers. In the 20s, students already enrolled in institutions of higher learning
Starting point is 00:33:08 were expelled based on social origins policy. Children of the nobility, the clergy, government bureaucrats, military officers, merchants, even children of petty shotkeepers were expelled. Applicants from these classes and children of the intelligents were denied entry to institutions of higher learning in the years that followed. As a nationality repressed by the czar, regime, Jews did not receive this treatment. Despite bourgeois origin, the Jewish youth were freely accepted in institutions of higher learning. Jews were forgiven for not being proletarian.
Starting point is 00:33:43 No, they were called proletarians. The word had no meaning anymore. We talked about this too. Now, Jacob Schiff was called a proletarian. It was denuded of all meaning at this point. A proletarian was not a worker. These guys didn't know any workers. Proletarian was. A proletarian someone who backed the regime in one form in one way or another, whether it be abroad or or in the USSR itself. We're forgiven by whom? It's such a silly statement. Now, they were, you know, to the extent that they supported the party, no matter what
Starting point is 00:34:17 their origin was, they were considered proletariat. According to the Jewish encyclopedia, with the absence of limitations based upon nationality for entry to institutions of higher learning, Jews came to make up 15.4% of all university students in the USSR, almost twice their proportion of the urban population at large. Further, Jews owing to a high level of motivation quickly bypassed the unprepared proletarian factory workers who had been pushed forward in the education system and proceeded unhindered into graduate school. In the 20s and 30s and for a long time after, Jews were a disproportionately large part of the intelligentsia. Yeah. Actually,
Starting point is 00:35:00 factory workers were not pushed forward. I mean, every once in a while you would have a bright kid or something, but, you know, we're also talking about, you know, the Jews simply took it over. And you don't need, you know, 15%, that's way more than enough to take over a place and to threaten anyone who may not even talk about Judaism, but anyone who may question the system, question Lenin's policies, question the totalitarian rule of one part, stuff like that that's enough you know and they were well organized they were they were they were armed of course um they did everything together they they weren't they didn't act as an individual
Starting point is 00:35:41 by any means um so you know i said from the very beginning in my book on ussr the last thing anyone gave a damn about was factory workers actual real proletarians in marxism they were exploited beyond belief um right over through the entire existence of the no capitalist state exploited factory workers like the Soviet Union. And it was perfectly consistent with the rule of the party, which is why, just because they use these terms, these naive professors of history who just take them at their word without any criticism as to why they're using these words and what they really mean, not just in theory, but in practice, too. and how to, you know, so the theory kind of went by the wayside pretty quickly, not that they ever believed in the first place, but it was, you know, in classical Marxism, a proletarian was someone who had nothing but their body to trade for a small wage in the cities. That's what a proletarian was, someone who owned nothing but his own body, his own labor power. Now, we went through a great detail why that's, you know, Marks may have said that, but I don't think even he fully believed it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 They were just a very easy, easy target. They did not function as juiced. They didn't operate as an organization. They operated as individuals totally lost in drowning in an urban world that they had no understanding of. According to G. Aronson, wide access to hire and specialized education led to the formation of cadres of doctors, teachers, and particularly engineers and technical workers among Jews, which naturally led to university faculty posts in the expanding system of higher education
Starting point is 00:37:34 and in the widely proliferating research institutions. In the beginning of the 1920s, the post of the state chair of science was occupied not by a scientist, but a Bolshevik official, Mandelstam-Liyadov. lie it of why don't we why don't we um pause here because now that what's going to happen from here on in is the economic stuff um and we talk about people like bucar and everything else this is a natural break um but um again everything all of these fields is specialized education sort of but it had to be based on ideology uh whether you actually believed it or whether you actually believed it or you sort of believed it, or whether you were totally fanatical,
Starting point is 00:38:24 Marxism was a way to justify anti-social behavior. It still is. Because you could always justify it. You know, it's really a maccabalian. You could justify it. I serve the workers, and therefore, I'm going to rob a bank. I'm going to shoot a clergyman or something like that. It's just anti-social behavior.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But now they can dress it up in this ideology. And, you know, we're going to come across this claim that Jews were an oppressed group of people, but we know better. This very book has gone through painstaking detail that Jews, the 19th century, were a privileged group of people. They had rights, they had privileges, they had incomes, that Russians didn't, ordinary Ukrainian orthodox people didn't. And for them to claim any kind of oppression is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And again, they need that because that's part of the myth. That's part of the whole story as to why the Soviet Union exists. I mean, you know, people like Schwartz, you know, were so, we're so incredibly outrageous in their claims that there was a unintended honesty to them. We knew how that, it wasn't just Schwartz. I mean, he spoke for a large number of Jews. that's what the USSR was to them that's why you can't bring this up in academia it destroys the entire history of the 20th century
Starting point is 00:39:56 everything would have to be rewritten if it came to be understood that that's not what the Soviet Union really was it privileged a certain group of people that privilege group changed over the years especially you know when the Jews finally disengaged from the USSR in the late 60s when Israel started to, you know, defeat the Arabs, supported by the Soviet, supported by Moscow, by the way, which would put the party in a very weird position, and when Jews now were being sponsored by the West, so one and only time that any sanctions were put in the Soviet Union was, well, Jimmy Carter did a little bit after the Afghanistan invasion, but it was because they wouldn't let Jews go to Israel. um so um i think i misread something up here um about the factory workers going to school i think i misread
Starting point is 00:40:55 that i think he meant that the jews were were bypassing um the factory workers because the factory workers had no you know talk about being lost you know this was this was a massive shift the factory factory workers were imported were kept under watch but you know and I'll say it again and I goes we'll get to this at some point but Henry Ford building the largest truck plant in the world in the midst of the
Starting point is 00:41:23 depression in Soviet Ukraine you know profit seems to come you know there's a reason Henry Ford was so wealthy that he was willing to throw all his views towards Jews to the wind for a massive profit which he received there was no native auto industry. There would have been if there was no, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:44 if the Zarisvass was continued to develop, it was industrializing rapidly. And it wasn't an industrialized state by the start of the war. It was overwhelmingly rural, but so was Germany. You know, and so was Britain. And so was the U.S. Still overwhelmingly rural. In fact that you got a few big cities where the factories were
Starting point is 00:42:07 that is the same everywhere. people think that Britain was this one huge factory. No, it was still a rural society, just like the U.S. was, just like Prussia was. So, yeah, I think I misread that, but that's what's happening here. And I can't, I don't know how, you know, Jews can deal with cognitive dissonance because it serves their interests. I don't think normal people can deal with cognitive dissonance. And so somehow, you know, lashing out at anti-Semites or, you know, kind of makes up for this
Starting point is 00:42:40 and so they'll write books on the USSR and never mention the Jews or talk about them only as you know victims and unfortunately how ridiculous it ends up sounding
Starting point is 00:42:53 just given what we've seen so far leaving the Jews out of developing USSR is it's like leaving the Jews out of the development of Israel it doesn't make any sense or leaving talking about Tibet and never mentioning Buddhism
Starting point is 00:43:07 you end up sounding absurd and that's exactly what modern uh history writing in the west sounds like today well it's good to have you back and i'm glad you're uh you're healing up yeah and rome's a good part and a romeone's shirt to boot like really uh yeah yeah i've been a fan of there since i was well since 1983 when subterranean jungle came out it's rare for me because i don't i don't like band that don't have a standout musician. Ramon's never had a particularly standout musician, but they're still one of my favorite bands anyway.
Starting point is 00:43:45 They're one of the few exceptions in that, in that realm. There has to be one musician that stands out. But the Ramones is always an exception in that regard. It's the songs. That's it. It's the vibe. They have a vibe. Well, keep in mind, too, that Ramon's very anti-communist.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Johnny. Yeah, Johnny, too. Johnny was very... I'm sorry, I didn't mean Markle, maybe, but Johnny especially. They were at the Berlin Wall, you know, and everything. Joey was a lefty. Johnny used to wear a shirt,
Starting point is 00:44:21 kill a commie for Mommy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they had some anti-commoner songs over the years. Yeah. But I think I have the feeling of a lot of thing from John. Yeah, yeah. That's a great song.
Starting point is 00:44:34 The Dead Kennedry's had, what was a song? Holiday in Cambodia. Holiday in Cambodia. And it's making fun of these college leftists by saying, oh, I have an idea. Why don't we take you over to Cambodia? We'll see how free they are. And that's, I love that song. And it's the most punk thing you can do to make fun of the left as they make fun of the right and, like, kill the poor and songs like that.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So that was in a band and everything. I played TBGBs in 1980. Eight or 89, so, yeah, I have a, we need to talk about that off air. Yes, yes, maybe not today, but definitely, yeah, I've lived an interesting life. All right, everyone, go over to the show notes and go over to, go over to the description of the videos, and please donate to Dr. Johnson. I'm sure he's also dealing with some medical bills, too. Yeah, throw him some shekels and keep him flush. I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I know you say it every time, and it's a big deal. No problem at all. We'll pick it up, and we'll get back into the swing of things. It looks like we're back in the swing of things today. You were, you were really, right? Yeah, you were on fire today. But give it another couple of days, you get back to 100% and we're going to fire through this 1920s because this is hell on earth for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:46:04 This is what a listener has been waiting for, I think, because this is one thing to get really. All the other crap we've been dealing with, it finds its height, it's zenith now. All the social, you know, the Jewish power has now exploded. Been festering for a long time. Now it exploded. And this is, now we live in a society
Starting point is 00:46:23 where Jews had untrammeled power and no one to tell them otherwise. And that's where we're, that's where we're reading about. Yes, sir. All right. see you in a couple days thank you very much all right my friend bye bye i want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by alexander solzhenycin this is episode number 82 dr johnson how are you doing today i'm doing a lot better i'm i'm not quite 100% but i'm very
Starting point is 00:46:53 close uh unfortunately you know my my big orange cat stanley has become somewhat famous over the years, um, his brother Marcel, uh, Jet Black has mouth cancer. So, um, all, you know, it's, it's just, um, but we know, we're going to fight this thing. And, uh, I had good news to, but I forgot it. It's thought my head. However, we do. I know I mentioned this before. We have, um, huge announcement at Radio Albion, something big is coming. Um, I think next month, maybe the middle of next month. But, yeah, it's Marcell. At one time was the head of security for Black Feline Lives Matter.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But once he realized, I have three black cats now, once he realized what it really meant, he resigned his position. So he's one of us. And I don't know how much this is going to cost me, but I don't, I don't care. He's one of the best cats I've ever had. Yeah. But we got it early. We got it early. That's the good thing.
Starting point is 00:48:00 He has a fighting chance. We got it early. That's good to hear. That's good to hear. It's always like two months after I moved in here. My cat that, Calico that I had for 15 years, she passed and had to, she's buried outside the window right here. So, yeah, it's always tough. We got three running around here right now.
Starting point is 00:48:27 and two of them are, two of them are aged, and one is barely over one years old. So the, uh, it's a lot of, it's a lot of fun watching the older one try to keep up with the younger one. Well, Stanley, you know, we get kittens. Stanley is very, um, for whatever reason, um, takes care of them. He's very, um, paternal. And, uh, he, you know, does everything that a mother cat would do. with them almost everything, I guess.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And he really has, he stepped up. He really, you know, one of his little sisters is deaf. And he, in his little brain, realizes that. This cat sociology is very interesting. And it never ends. I tell you, these cats have more intelligence to a lot of people I know. They certainly have more use than a lot of people I know. They're cleaner than most, a lot of people I know.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You know, these are valuable animals to me. And I know to you too. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's jump in. Picking up where we left off last time. Even sharper changes gripped the economic life of the country. Bukharan publicly announced at a Communist Party conference in 1927 that during war communism,
Starting point is 00:49:43 we purged a Russian petty and middle bourgeoisie, along with leading capitalists. When the economy was later opened up to free trade, petty and middle Jewish bourgeoisie took the place of the Russian bourgeoisie, and roughly the same happened with our Russian intelligentsia, which bucked and sabotaged our efforts. Its place has been taken by some areas of the Jewish intelligentsia. Moreover, Jewish bourgeoisie and intelligentsia are concentrated in our central regions and cities, where they moved in from western provinces and southern towns. Here, even in the party ranks, one often encounters anti-Semitic tendencies. comrades we must wage a fierce battle against anti-semitism you know you could one of the things that drives me crazy about the the communist party back then and to a great extent even
Starting point is 00:50:39 today that their their use of generalities somehow labels a substitute for knowledge yeah they purged the the petty minibussov I don't know why they would purge the petty Bucciwese. Petty means, you know, very, very small business. I don't know how in any way that threatens the party. Something tells me that petty bourgeoisie means something else. Leading capitalists, well, not really, because leading capitalists were building the society at the time. I think that's just a code for powerful Russians. Now, free trade, of course, he's referring to the new economic policy, new economic program, which certainly did, he's right to say that it did benefit the Jews, to a great extent he's right, at least in that respect.
Starting point is 00:51:26 The intelligentsia, he's talking about intellectuals. Many of them by now were gone. Many of them were in exile. But, of course, claiming that they're sabotaging things, it's always a great excuse when things fail later on. He is right to say that their place has been taken by the Jewish intellectuals. to that are almost always on the left at least relative to us and certainly relative to Russians and you know Bukharin um was a very different sort of sort of writer um but the one thing you're going to note you know I've read Soviet communist writings since I was with 19 and
Starting point is 00:52:13 it's it says something without saying anything and the reason for that are these crazy generalities, these huge groups they put a label on. And it doesn't refer to anything empirically. They're not really making any empirical statements here. But, you know, I did my dissertation on Michael Okshaw, the great British Higilian conservative, a late Neil Higelian conservative from London School of Economics. And the thesis that I dealt with to a great extent,
Starting point is 00:52:46 my doctoral dissertation is online somewhere. website has a link to it, I think. Because this language has no bearing on anything, when a revolutionary party takes over, they have to force it to mean something. And the relationship between these abstractions, like petty and middle Jewish bourgeoisie, petty bourgeoisie, you know, that has to actually take reality somehow. It's one thing when it's words on a page. it sounds great right not in narxism necessarily or any theory really sound you can make it sound rational you can make it sound wonderful I can make anything sound wonderful you know I think that's a professor that's what I did that was part of my job but when you then take over a country society is a bit more complicated you have to force these words so to speak onto a society that already exists and in this case it doesn't even like you trying to make words real
Starting point is 00:53:47 is the cause of, I mean, the very abstract cause of political violence. And the minute a theory on paper is actually imposed, it gets really dirty. It doesn't have any bearing on anything. And somehow these intellectuals were very happy living in this fantasy world where these labels actually meant something. And we've already, as far as anti-Semitism, is concerned. Now, they will never define that. There's been, well, they actually did, but they're all over the place on it, depending on who you read. Lenin was bizarre. I think we talked about that already. I've done several lectures on the question. Remember what we said about how the early party defined it. Antisemitism generally was defined as anything anti-Soviet. So anti-Semitism was a way to attract, Jewish money, Jewish sympathy, and hence a sympathy of Western governments while destroying their political opponents within the boundaries of the empire.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And it's just, it's maddening to read these guys, refer to things like, you know, they never, it's these aren't empirical statements. You know, the middle, of course, in some case, like Middle Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, a place, Russian Bushville. Well, that's certainly the case. They were killed. the NEP did create a bourgeoisie but the only ones who were ever dispossessed later on tended to be non-Jews. Remember, we said during the Stalin era, Jews were never targeted as such only because they were so dominant in the early party. Stalin enforced all the anti-Semitic laws on the books like anybody else. He believed in global government.
Starting point is 00:55:42 He believed in a global language. I have the citation for that somewhere. I've published it a few times. So this little paragraph here has a lot going on. And so that's the one thing you need to watch out for when you read it. There is nothing profound about what he's saying here. Labels seem to take the place of actual empirical knowledge. Marxists don't really have to know anything.
Starting point is 00:56:06 They need to have the right ideological slogans at the right time, and they rearrange the same abstract concepts depending on what they're talking about. And really, I want to punch them out. It just drives me crazy. Bukharan described a situation that was obvious to all. Unlike Russian bourgeoisie, the Jewish bourgeoisie was not destroyed. The Jewish merchant, much less likely to be damned as a man of the past, found defenders. Relatives or sympathizers in the Soviet apparatus warned about pending arrests or seizures. And if he lost anything, it was just capital, not life. Cooperation was quasi-official through the Jewish commissariat of the Savnarkum. The Jews until now had been
Starting point is 00:56:49 a repressed people, and that meant naturally they needed help. Laran explained the destruction of the Russian bourgeoisie as a correction of the injustice that existed under the czars before the revolution. Now, we use the phrase mental gymnastics. Sometimes we use the phrase special pleading and that's what you have here this is a way this is a really weird way of admitting that Marxism is Jewish
Starting point is 00:57:23 certainly Soviet Marxism is Jewish okay how do we explain someone's going to note you claim to be anti-capital private capital and here are these Jews with all kinds of wealth serving the party without having to give up anything. How do you explain that?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Other than saying this is a Jewish party and this is really just about power. They have to say something along the lines, well, they're Jews, and because the Tsarists hated them with such intensity, we leave them alone because they are natural revolutionaries and we'll do this because we're correcting
Starting point is 00:57:58 some kind of an injustice. Now, we've spent an awful lot of time explaining how ridiculous that statement is. that the Tsarist policy throughout the 19th century placed Jews in a privileged position and we know that. And it came to bite them, came to destroy them. Privately, of course, they knew what the Jews were,
Starting point is 00:58:18 especially in the second half of the 19th century. But they had a lot of money. And as we said 100 times, the state was in a rough position. So this is how they explained it. This is how they justified it. And so even just uttering the fact that you were, And I think the whole existence of this Jewish commissariat, you know, it's a Jewish party.
Starting point is 00:58:38 What did they need a commissariat for? This was a very careful way of making sure you had Jews who were able to point out Jewish areas, Jewish regions. So in purges or attacks, you left these people alone. I know we've mentioned the gold mine. Remember we talked about the gold, the gold, the Lina gold mine riots just before the Revolution. The Ginsburg family, of course, controlled so much of the gold mine. in the Russian Empire but when
Starting point is 00:59:09 the Soviets nationalized it they just took the same Gidsberg family and put them in charge of it. Nothing changed except they're working for the state which was Jewish anyway so absolutely nothing changed but now Ginsberg can be called a proletarian that's the logic of this nonsense here.
Starting point is 00:59:27 When NEP, the new economic policy was crushed, the blow fell with less force against Jewish NEP men owing to connections in Soviet ruling circles. Bukharan had been speaking in answer to a remarkable speech by Professor Y. V. Kalushnikov. It looks like Kalishnikov, but it's Kalushnikov, a publicist and a former cadet. In December 1926, the professor spoke at a meeting on the Jewish question at the Moscow Conservatory.
Starting point is 01:00:01 We have isolated expressions of hooliganism. It sources the hurt. national feelings of the Russians. The February Revolution established the equality of all citizens of Russia, including Jews. The October Revolution went further with the Russian nation proclaiming self-renunciation. A certain... Yeah. Oh, geez. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:00:22 That's the first time I'm hearing that. Okay. Self-renunciation, yes, we'll destroy ourselves. Oh, my God. All right. Go ahead. It's just basically you're not allowed to be Russian anymore, just like, you know, the the quote unquote West is not allowed to be white anymore or Christian anymore or the Russian nation the Russian nation apparently is an object I mean it is is real opt but but in this mind the October Revolution was the entire Russian nation saying that we were in the wrong through history so now we're going to renounce ourselves so they're claiming this has nothing to do with us the Russian nation said this this is this is insane this is maddening to read a certain imbalance has developed
Starting point is 01:01:04 with respect to the proportion of the Jewish population in the country as a whole in the positions they have temporarily occupied in the cities. A certain imbalance. Just a certain imbalance. Just a little imbalance. We are in our own cities, and they arrive and squeeze us out. When Russians see Russian women, elders and children freezing on the street nine to 11 hours a day, getting soaked by the rain in their tents at the market, and when they see relatively
Starting point is 01:01:30 warm-covered Jewish kiosks with bread and sausage, they're not. not happy. These phenomena are catastrophic and must be considered. There's a terrible disproportion in the government structure in daily life and in other areas. We have a housing crisis in Moscow. Masses of people are crowding into areas not fit for habitation. At the same time, people see others pouring in from other parts of the country taking
Starting point is 01:01:54 up housing. These arrivals are Jews. A national dissatisfaction is rising and a defensiveness and fear of other nationalities. We must not close our eyes to that. A Russian speaking to a Russian will say things that he will not say to a Jew. Many are saying that there are too many Jews in Moscow. This must be dealt with, but don't call it anti-Semitism. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:02:19 The pressure here is being very careful. He's essentially, you know, warning, he's been warning at the party, let alone, you know, former cadet, meaning he was a liberal anti-royalist. And hooliganism is one of these words that they use to describe this irrational because all anti-Semitism is irrational. This is, you know, disorganized violence lashing out at anybody. What he's saying here is really became national socialist. They called it propaganda, but this guy is saying it's real that here you have, in the Russian winter, you have Russian people who've been kicked out of their houses by, by Jews. who have no problem watching them on the street suffering.
Starting point is 01:03:09 This is why, you know, I say these aren't a normal people. If it was an individual doing this, you say you're a sociopath. Now you have a group of people doing it. Well, what do you call it then? The assumption that they're just any old citizen. And there was no citizenship in USSR. There was no concept of that. That was a bourgeois, bourgeois notion.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Now, he's got to be careful. He can't say too much. but he's essentially going to the party saying, you know, maybe, maybe you've got to watch yourselves. Clearly, I don't think he's a Jew given his last name. I could be wrong, but I don't think he is. But you have this sociopathy, Jew showing up, throwing people onto the street, using the state to do it, moving into their homes, and seeing them out their window, suffering in
Starting point is 01:03:57 the snow, and thinking that's perfectly okay. This sort of thing, and he's playing it down because he's, he's playing it down, because he's said, you know, this is 1926, he's got to be very careful what he says. So he's playing it down. In other words, it's much worse than that at the time. What do you say to a group of people from all over the country? The overwhelming majority of the Jews living in the boundaries of the Soviet Union, or, you know, within a little while anyway, they think this is perfectly acceptable. And they're doing it all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:31 This is normal policy. They're not a normal people. and you can't treat them as such any other group unless you're just bitter enemies and even then these are innocent they're not bitter enemies
Starting point is 01:04:41 they're ordinary people that could look at this and say this is justice this is good this is a positive thing and then tell themselves some story there were programs
Starting point is 01:04:50 50 years ago that the czar is somehow organized against us and therefore the kids could freeze out there they are not a normal people there's a short circuit in there
Starting point is 01:05:03 There clearly is a short-circuit and empathy that says so long as Jews are doing, okay, if there was a Jew out there in this condition, it would be a different story. But a group of people who have no problem doing this right out their window is, you know, we can't treat them as they're just anybody else. You know, you had Turks, you had Armenians, you had Germans, all who in certain circles had done quite well, never were, never had this kind of discussion because they weren't. sociopathic people. But Russian Jews, and nothing but sympathy outside of the Soviet Union, too, I've been saying this they function like a mafia organization, but I don't know even if a mafia organization would permit this to happen, especially when it affects women and children. My favorite sentence there is, a Russian speaking to a Russian will say things that he will not
Starting point is 01:06:03 say to a Jew. They always invert basically like that sentence should be a Jew speaking to a Jew will say things that he will not say to a Gentile. Oh yeah. That's very true. But Laran regarded Kalushnikov's speech as a manifestation of anti-Semitism saying this speech serves as an example of the good nature of Soviet power in its battle against anti-Semitism because Kalushnikov was roundly criticized by speakers who followed at the same meeting, but no administrative measures were taken against him. Here it is, the frustration of the communist activist. Agurski writes, one would expect repression to swiftly follow for such a speech in the 20s and 30s, but Kalishnikov got off. Maybe he received secret support from some quarters, but why look for secret causes? It would have been too
Starting point is 01:06:56 much of a scandal to punish such a famous publicist who just returned from abroad and could of harm to reverse migration that was so important for Soviet authorities? The 20s were spoken. You want to deal with that? Nothing, nothing. Yeah, well, I don't know how to deal with it other than sarcasm. Clearly what the man said was perfectly normal, even in the Soviet environment. But the very fact that he even brought up this issue and people are saying, my God, why is this guy not in prison?
Starting point is 01:07:30 all that shows you how merciful we do i mean soviets are that will allow you to say such clearly you could go in a street and watch it it's not like this these are theories he could point you to it and because we're such a wonderful people that we will not send him to the gulag see there's full freedom of speech in the uss are the 20s were spoken of as the conquest by the views of Russian capital cities and industrial centers where conditions were better. As well, there was a migration to the better areas within the cities. G. Fedatov describes Moscow at the time. Quote, the revolution deformed its soul, turning it inside out, emptying out its mansions
Starting point is 01:08:15 and filling them with a foreign and alien people. Well, that's interesting. George Fedotov. I've read George Fedotov for many years. So many Russians at the time didn't get it. it's not deformed That was the revolution That was the revolution
Starting point is 01:08:33 It was from a foreign and alien people Fedentov was an excellent writer He was an orthodox man He wrote a lot of good things This was a period of time Where conservative Russians even Were struggling with what the heck was going on This was such a shock to everybody
Starting point is 01:08:49 Although by now it was becoming old to happen Deformed it so This is what the American left said under Stalin not realizing that, no, this was a revolution. This is what it was supposed to be. There is nothing distorted about it. It was alien. It was foreign.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And it was not deformed. This was what the revolution was supposed to do. A Jewish joke from the era, even from Berdicev, and even the very old come to Moscow, they want to die in a Jewish city. That's very sad. Yeah. In a private letter, V.I. Vernat. In 1927 writes, Moscow now is like Berdicev.
Starting point is 01:09:32 The power of Jewry is enormous, and anti-Semitism, including in communist circles, is growing unabated. It shouldn't shock anybody that in certain communist circles, Gentiles and Marxist circles who were told, you know, these may be true believers, people who said, you know, we believe in, you know, workers control over industry, yeah, that they ever, that never was even considered. we believe in a certain level of equality to each according to his ability according to his need these kind of slogans and now they're looking at an oligarchy
Starting point is 01:10:06 far worse than anything that they had seen before and Vernanke is a great historian I've been reading him for many years and somewhat of a Eurasianist by the way he eventually was kicked out of the country this is where the so-called communist circle
Starting point is 01:10:23 come from. Apparently, we were duped. This really, this wasn't what we sign up for, and eventually they're going to be themselves kicked out. Laran, we do not hide figures that demonstrate growth of the Jewish population in urban centers. It is completely unavoidable and will continue into the future. He forecasted the migration from Ukraine and Bilorosia of an additional 600,000 Jews. We can't look upon this as something, that the party would silence. We must create a spirit in the working class so that anyone who gives a speech against the arrival of Jews in Moscow would be considered a counter-revolutionary. Working class, they wouldn't know what to do with a real worker if one fell on their head.
Starting point is 01:11:12 They had no connection with where, you know, we're talking about factory workers here. That's, that's the core of, allegedly the core of Marxism. We know they have no conception of it. None of them came from this class. They distrusted this class. Sometimes they hated this class. We've already discussed why the proletarian was targeted, had nothing to do with their condition or anything else. Working class is one of these abstractions that mean absolutely nothing. It's a plastic phrase that ultimately comes down to saying someone who fanatically supports the work of the party, wherever it is.
Starting point is 01:11:50 and again here we go anyone who talks about and you know if you're if you're if you're a Jewish family this is a time to have babies you get whatever anything you want this is a perfect time so there was an explosion of the Jewish population that makes sense to me
Starting point is 01:12:02 and so anyone who even talks about the arrival of Jews in Moscow because this is you know the capital had been moved there by now even talking about it even discussing it means you are a counter-revolutionary well how does talking about you know
Starting point is 01:12:19 demographic change, have anything to do with being counter-revolutionary or being anti-Soviet? Well, this is kind of an accidental thing to say. We talked about Lenin on Saturday saying the same kind of thing. This is a tacit admission that the party was Jewish. Because if you say anything about the Jews, by definition, you're saying something about the party, hence you're counter-revolutionary. This was their kind of weird way of admitting to the world. You know, it's hard living with cognitive dissonance. Now, sociopaths don't have to worry about that.
Starting point is 01:12:52 But some, you know, you have plenty of individual Jews who had to deal with this. This is how they did it. They'd go roundabout and not think too hard about it. But ultimately, phrases like this, which you come across constantly in this era, are a way to admit to the world that, yes, this is a Jewish party. This is a Jewish revolution. This is a Jewish movement. And the way they admit it is saying this.
Starting point is 01:13:18 if you give a speech against demographic changes concerning only Jews arriving in the capital and anywhere else with power, that by definition means you're a counter-revolutioner. And for counter-revolutionaries, there is nine grams of lead. That much is clear. But what to do about anti-Semitic tendencies, even in our party circles, was a concern in the upper levels of the party. According to official data reported in progress, in 1922, Jews made up 5.2% of the party. M. Agerzky, quoting, but their actual influence was considerably more. In the same year at the 11th Communist Party Congress, Jews made up 14.6% of the voting delegates,
Starting point is 01:14:06 18.3% of the non-voting delegates, and 26% of those elected to the Central Committee at the conference. Sometimes one accidentally comes upon such data. A taciturn memoirist, from Moscow opens Provda in July 1930 and notes, quote, The portrait of the 25-member Presidium of the Communist Party included 11 Russians, 8 Jews, 3 from the Caucasus, and 3 Latvians. In large cities, close to areas of the former Pala settlement, the following data.
Starting point is 01:14:38 In the early 20s, party organizations in Minsk, Gomel, and Tepsk in 1922 were respectively 34.8%, 21.1% and 16.6% Jewish, respectively. Lauren notes, quote, Jewish revolutionaries play a bigger part than any others in revolutionary activity, thanks to their qualities. Jewish workers often find it easier to rise to positions of local leadership. There's a few ways of dealing with this. First of all, these are official numbers. They were very interested in playing down numbers. I know these numbers are much higher. But again, you're talking about 1% of the population.
Starting point is 01:15:21 You know, there's only so many Jews to go around, but you only need a fairly small number to have tremendous influence. You have, you know, allegedly, in 1920, 5.2% of the party, it's utter nonsense. We spent a lot of time talking about Jews hiding their identities, not reporting themselves as Jews, plus the fact that the Soviets did not like the idea that people, especially abroad, were starting to notice these facts. at the same time it seemed now and keep in mind party membership doesn't mean a whole lot that's the whole point of this um paragraph it's the positions of power that matter especially in you know you in kvd very early um police institutions the rule of the camps um the law that kind of thing judges these positions of power well i don't really care about party members membership. It didn't matter. Jews didn't really have to be a member of the party.
Starting point is 01:16:20 You could be a communist, not be a member of the party, especially if you were part of that group. Now, we're talking about 1% of the population here in the West, where Jews were dominant. They ran the party. So let's say it's accurate. So 36% in Minsk is probably low. But even if it's correct, that means the party is inherently Jewish because that organized, very well-armed group of Jews will keep a lid on everybody else. And as we already know, they act in such a sociopathic way that Russians or Belarusians or Ukrainians will keep their mouths shut. Hence, they're concerned about any Semitism within the party.
Starting point is 01:17:01 But there's no doubt in my mind these numbers are higher. But we are talking about not necessarily quantitative issues, but qualitative ones. It just really takes a handful of Jews to take over an organization if they have plenty of money. And that's the point of this thing. It really doesn't matter. Party membership, especially at this point, doesn't make a whole lot of difference, especially since the numbers or Soviet numbers on everything are to be brought under suspicion.
Starting point is 01:17:28 But remember, you're going to get this thrown at you, you know, how you'll trust proff the numbers on Jews. Jews don't want people to know that this is a Jewish movement. So, of course, you're going to play them down. The Jews are expert at hiding their identity and not responding to, census. We talked about this all the time. And yet, how do you explain on a 25 member Presidium, eight were Jews. Eleven Russians, allegedly, although Jews who would change their name.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Or simply people who said they weren't. And in fact, they were. It gets very complicated. And it was, oh, even before the Bolshevik takeover, it was complicated. And we dealt with that at great length. The western Belarusian areas, and then, of course, eastern Ukraine, too, you know, the western part of the empire, these numbers make a lot more sense, and they would explain the Presidium numbers, and especially at the local level, where in these areas, you have completely Jewish party committees and everything else. Party membership doesn't mean a whole lot. Jews can make up, you know, let's say it's accurate. I'd say probably maybe probably more like 20% of the voting delegates, let's say. the 11th, 11th Congress.
Starting point is 01:18:47 That really, that's, that's all they need. You could take over an entire movement that way. This 15%, let's say 20%, they have infinitely more money, infinitely more money than any of the Gentiles on that committee. They have far more connections. They have connections abroad. They could run circles around their Russian competitors,
Starting point is 01:19:10 and they did see them as competitors. And so it really didn't make any difference. But, you know, in the early revolutionary movement, we go through the names. We've gone through the names a hundred times. Those low numbers don't make a whole lot of sense. Now, the Pala settlement did include, of course, you know, Minskumel, that these are all in Belarus. And these numbers make a lot more sense to me. Now, in central Russia, you're not going to get a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:19:37 You know, there's really a handful of Jews that are beginning with. Jews were always concentrated in the West. And so that's how you explain this to anyone who may. That's really Solzhenitsyn's point of view. How do you explain this to somebody who throws these numbers at you? This is what Pravda says. Of course, we always believe what Pravda says. So that's how you answer it.
Starting point is 01:19:56 There's a few different ways to go about it, and I listed them all. In the same issue of Pravda, it is noted that Jews at 5.2% of the party were in the third place after Russian, 72%. And Ukrainians, 5.9%, followed by Latvians 2.5%. and then Georgians, charters, polls, and bilo-Russians. Jews had the highest rate of per capita party membership. 7.2% of Jews were in the party versus 3.8% for great Russians. Emma Gerski correctly notes that in absolute numbers, the majority of communists were, of course, Russians, but the unusual role of Jews in leadership was dawning on the Russians.
Starting point is 01:20:39 It was just too obvious. For instance, Zinoviev gathered many Jews around themselves in the Petersburg leadership. Erskis suggests this was what Laren was referring to in his discussion of the photograph of the Presidium of Petrograd Soviet in 1918 in his book. By 1921, the preponderance of Jews in Petrograd CP organization was apparently so odious that the Politburo, reflecting on the lessons of Kronstadt and the anti-Semitic mood of Petrograd decided to send several ethnic Russian communists to Petrograd, though entirely for publicity purposes.
Starting point is 01:21:17 So, U. Go ahead. I said, there you go. That's exactly what I said above. They're worried. I mentioned the Hungarian example, where you had 100 percent. Stalin said, we can't have that. Anyway, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:21:31 So Uglinov took the place of Zorin-Humberg as head of Gubkum. Kamorov replaced Tril. Trilliser and Semyonov went to Cheka, but Zinoviev objected to the decision of Politburo and fought the new group. And as a result, Uglinov was recalled from Petrograd and a purely Russian opposition group formed spontaneously in the Petrograd organization, a group forced to counter the rest of the organization whose tone was set by Jews. I'm one of the few people who spent a lot of time on the Leningrad affair after World War II. the Leningraders, as they were called, were or became somewhat within the confines of the Stalin-Soviet Union, the so-called Russian Party.
Starting point is 01:22:22 The Leningrad purge is very little known and for very good reason. Ultimately, it was a way to destroy the siege of Leningrad in World War II. The propaganda that these people were almost gods was everywhere. but the fact that they were all Russians and said, you know, if we were gods like this, how can we have to deal? Why are Russians in, you know, being exploited? The one place that, that, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:48 communism doesn't seem to apply for better or for words. We even have our own, we don't have our own meaning. We don't have anything. Everyone else does, though. And the purge began. There's one thing that's going to get you sent to a camp is being, even in the confines of Marxism, a Russian so-called nationalist
Starting point is 01:23:07 or someone who says that Russians as an ethnic group are being exploited, which they were. They would produce and far more would be taken from them and sent abroad than given to them. They were one of the only groups
Starting point is 01:23:21 that would produce and all their products be sent to abroad or even outlying outlying republics. And the Leningrad Purge was stolen. Collins responded very up, and the Jews are surrounding them. I had a lot to say that, you know what?
Starting point is 01:23:39 These Russians are starting to talk like Russian nationalists. Yeah, we're God. How come we're not treated this way? There were no Jews up there. Russians were up there. And Salon eventually sent them to the camps. There was a trial. But the West didn't know what to do with this.
Starting point is 01:23:57 So it was ignored. Very few people know about the Leningrad trial. I have, go back to Radio Albion, maybe this time. last year. Yeah, I think this time last year I did an hour, at least an hour on the Leningrad Purge. You're not going to find a lot of references to that anywhere. And even if you do, they're not going to really talk about it in any kind of realistic way. And, but keep in mind, and that was hushed up for a while. I said before, Soviet Union was very image conscious, especially in this era. They had a lot of money coming in from the West, so-called anti-communist
Starting point is 01:24:31 West and you know they were they were kind of rebuilding without really the ability they used to have the ability but they were all gone and so they needed Western assistance they were very concerned with their image and you had a far healthier Western society if it became clear that this was a completely foreign Jewish group that was destroying Russians and blowing up churches this might be a problem for us and and so they brought people like that idiot who was running the Church of England, showing them all the churches that they allowed to exist, saying, see, and he went back to England saying, I can't think of his name now, Dr. President of Canterbury, saying, see, you know, he said there was perfectly full religious freedom in the USSR.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Well, he said it, so it must be true. And that's where all these myths got started. But the idea that this was a Russian movement, is absolutely absurd, but this paragraph explains some of these numbers. Now, these numbers are after all of these shuffling occurred. They're very in misconscious. They can't have it looked like. I mean, they changed their name for a reason.
Starting point is 01:25:46 If they use their real name, can you imagine this, the list of people who, of all the dictators, there was only one Jew that was Endropov, who really didn't matter all that much. They were very careful to make sure you did. didn't have Jews, you know, or certainly Jews named Goldstein or Goldberg, something like that, in positions of power that people would know, people would recognize. But go to the police agencies, go to the camps, and you're going to see nothing but Jewish names, both those who were changed and both who kept the original ones. So Noviyev, of course, himself being a Jew.
Starting point is 01:26:23 So Noviah's not his real name. But not only in Petrograd, at the 12th Communist Party Congress 1923, three, three out of six Politburo members were Jewish. Three out of seven were Jews in the leadership of the Kumsumal and in the presidium of the All-Russia conference in 1922. This was not tolerable to other leading communists and apparently preparations were begun for an anti-Jewish revolt at the 13th Party Congress May 1924. Quote, there is evidence that a group of members of C.K. were planning to drive leading Jews from the Politburo, replacing them with Noggan, Trayonovsky and others, and that only the death of Nogun interrupted the plot.
Starting point is 01:27:09 His death, literally on the eve of the Congress, resulted from an unsuccessful and unnecessary operation for a stomach ulcer by the same surgeon who dispatched Frunz with an equally unneeded operation a year and a half later. Well, I strongly doubt. I mean, there always was anti-Jewish thinking. plans for a purge that more than likely this was a way
Starting point is 01:27:38 to justify a purge of Russians yeah you had plenty of Russians and even those outside the Latvians and Turks whatever who had enough of this who had enough of this Jewish arrogance I mean they had power
Starting point is 01:27:55 direct political power armed political power the police agencies it's the first time we're talking 1923 24 this was still brand new to them yeah they were pissing everyone off this is what they do they have no conception for all their alleged intelligence they have no conception of thinking in the future everything is is what they can grab at the moment they didn't have to do very much to to placate russians but they wouldn't even dream of it um now i don't know about the doctors and and later doctors plot and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:28:30 But, you know, there's, there's so many problems with this. There's been so much written, especially in Russian, on these questions. The most I'll say, there was no organization, however, but there were plenty of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, those, you know, certain parts of the Baltics, Far East, that had just had enough. They were already pissing off their own people. I know communists, people who might actually have taken, ideology seriously who had now come to the realization that this isn't really the words
Starting point is 01:29:05 that I've been reading aren't really what they mean and I've been completely duped and it's really hard to admit that you've been fooled or that this isn't what you think it was or that you were used and there is no accident that it is no accident that I don't know another five to ten years maybe there's continual purges of the party Don't get me wrong. Stalin was just, you know, the best organized. In 10 years, you're not going to hear about any of these guys anymore. I think we should stop right there because we're going to start getting into the check of GPU and their numbers.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and this is what I've been saying. You get into these groups, totally different story. Party membership, these, I don't, you know, but as time went on, people began to realize, as matter what your ethnic background, if you wanted a career, if you wanted to know, education you wanted anything at least have a party membership card it meant absolutely nothing um the chinese party in the late 70s got to what it was like something like 60 million people even more who had a party membership card how many of those 60 million actually
Starting point is 01:30:14 fully believed in marks and Mao you know uh it wasn't it wasn't the case um people had a communist party card uh because they realized it was necessary for them to function in society not necessarily all the time that was late Alexander Lukashenko for example one of my favorite world leaders in Belarus who functioned within the party never had a communist party card
Starting point is 01:30:38 was never a communist member of the party but that was very late in the game at this point people began to realize especially Gentiles Jews didn't have to worry so much but Gentiles realized that if I want anything, if I want my kids educated if I want a career etc., probably my best bet
Starting point is 01:30:56 is to join the party even if I don't even know or care or even hate communism as an ideology. Yeah, I mean, if, you know, there's going to be three kinds of people when they see this kind of thing arise. There's going to be those who are going to try and get on the side of it, those who are going to just try to completely ignore it, and those who are going to fight it. The biggest group is going to be the one in the middle, but the ones who are there will be ones who will accept where it's going and be like, you know, survival calls.
Starting point is 01:31:35 And, you know, my survival instinct tells me to, you know, do what I need to do to get along and, you know, be on their side. And I think that happens a lot. Don't judge these people. Because these people already realized what was going to happen. They had little kids or something like that. They know what's going to happen to them. We all think, oh, we'd be fighters. if we'd be out there with what we don't know that you don't know that we know what they would do we know
Starting point is 01:32:01 what they did to their enemies we know how disgusting they were in terms of their enemies if you already you know you have you have a family you have a lot going you can't just get a rifle got into the woods you have plenty of people doing that and no they were never heard from again um there was a movement i'm pretty sure we're going to talk about this in the future trying to russianize the party. You had an entire ideological movement. I mean, earlier Asianism almost was based on this notion. That, that you know what, matter how many Jews run this, there's only so many of them. And we can Russianize this party. Maybe Bolshevism
Starting point is 01:32:39 doesn't necessarily have to be communism. Alexander Dugin said that early in his career. I don't know if he says it anymore. Lamanov says it, or said it. He's dead now. That I mean, Bolivism doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish Marxism, we can Russianize it. And those kind of people were useful for a while. They eventually all wiped out, but they even had a whole journal, which I wrote about age, a million years ago. I was first learning to read the language.
Starting point is 01:33:10 I don't remember me. Before Google Translate, and when Google Translate early on was awful, especially in Russian, I had no choice. I had to learn it. My kids were little. I remember that. But that's, you know, that's, you know, you had a lot of, you're absolutely right. You had a whole different layer, set of layers of reactions.
Starting point is 01:33:30 What are we going to do? It's really hard. Going into exile, you know, well, that was chosen by a lot of people. There are exile organizations already abroad. Soviets hated them. You know, they were writing a lot and everything else. You had people who joined the party just for survival sake. Go along.
Starting point is 01:33:48 You had people who stayed who wanted to maybe move the party in their direction. tons of those people and ultimately right up until the end of the Khrushchevara they never made it they were either purged or you keep your head down plenty of people kept their head down or if you lived in places like Armenia or Georgia
Starting point is 01:34:09 they were kind of left alone I'm not saying that they weren't persecuted they were they didn't were sent to camps I'm not saying that but because they were actually they usually exceeded their quotas. Georgians and Armenians were known for that because they produced so well, this is much later in the empire, that they were kind of, yeah, they would give slogans about how wonderful Lenin was. And otherwise, you know, in the 50s and 60s, they were kind of left alone.
Starting point is 01:34:37 They didn't do half, half badly. Of course, they usually did it on the banks of Russians. But you had a situation in Georgia where, I mean, to this day, like 96% of Georgia is live in Georgia. Very rare to find that in any, this is worth for it. of Armenians, of course, a different story. It's not their fault. So there were lots of ways of surviving it. I've read so much, you know, biography and everything else.
Starting point is 01:35:02 There's a million different, very specific ways. If you were very valuable to them, you had very specific. But, you know, Solzhenitsyn talks about in his early work, the gulags weren't necessarily as people out there with pikes, you know. The gulags often were laboratories, computer science labs. These were normal guys, but they just were in prison. but they had lab coats on well-educated they were valuable to the state they didn't trust them but was it the red wheel or um yeah the red wheel i think it starts off i get a mixed up sometimes starts off with a guy in a audio lab talking about how to bug phones and everything else he was in prison he was in a gulag but if you're well-educated you're not going to just get sent you off to you know die in in the in the tundra they're going to use you that way so there was a million different ways their life wasn't so bad but They were in prison, but their life wasn't so bad.
Starting point is 01:35:54 So there was a million ways, depending on your background, who you were, what you're going to do, your personality. But I'm telling you, I don't like judging the idea of these people didn't necessarily fight. You have to ask yourself, what would you do? A lot of Orthodox struggle with this, you know, would you sign the 1927 declaration? Knowing full well that the party said, if you don't sign this, we're going to slaughter the rest of the priests here. Be careful who you judge and make sure you understand what would you do in this situation. knew what would happen to you and very possibly your family if you didn't sign. Of course you don't mean it. We all know you didn't mean it. There's no mens rea there. So judging people because
Starting point is 01:36:33 they went along is wrong because I have the feeling some of these people judging would probably do the same thing if they knew what was going to happen to them if they didn't. All right. Encourage everyone to go over to the show notes and go over to the description on the videos. Donate to Dr. Johnson's work here. We're glad he's feeling a lot better and go over there and help him out. I'm sure he's got some bills to pay
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Starting point is 01:37:17 together by Alexander Solzhenison. This is episode 83. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? Have you heard that Rush, my favorite band since 1984, is going back on the road? It's a disaster already. I'm totally against that they hired. Is Dave Lombardo playing drums? Well, Dave Lombardo should be with Metallica and what's his face should be management. But anyway, they hired this girl, very attractive, of course, with apparently no fat girls play any instruments. And, They hired a keyboard player, so now there's four people. It was just a, I don't know if they did it.
Starting point is 01:37:53 It was this politically correct thing. And apparently it's not going well. They haven't gone out yet. And they're flooding the press, whatever PR firm they're using. Ticket prices are so high and it's an outrage. Well, ticket prices have been ridiculous for a long time. That's not news. I have the feeling that because of this nonsense, tickets aren't selling.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I ain't going. I'm boycotting this whole thing. I go to all their pages and say, boo. on it, very loudly. 1984, I've been, this is a travesty. I need to vent about this because it's pissing me right off. But the fact that they're already realizing it's a problem
Starting point is 01:38:29 and saying, oh, it's ticket prices. Like this is a new issue. No, people are this aren't, this isn't the band. And hiring this woman, young, attractive, of course, and I have the feeling it has nothing to do with her ability, although she's played with some big name people. Mike Portnoy wanted to do it. You have people like Terry Bozio and Simon Phillips.
Starting point is 01:38:53 No, no, that's who they go with. I don't even think she was a Rush fan before this. So this is not going well. And it's a shame to see these guys end up like this. You know, it was over. Neil Peartadadadadad died. They were going to do solo things. I guess they got bored.
Starting point is 01:39:15 And they're trying to put Rush back. If they use a different name, I'd be good. So it's an outrage, and it's ruined a lot of, I'm wearing my rush shirt today. My wife got it from me. But this thing has, it's pissed me right off. It's a cash grab. And I think, I think Neil is rolling in his grave.
Starting point is 01:39:39 To correct you, you keep saying that this woman is playing keyboard. She's playing drums. No, no, no, no. No, they hired a keyboard player. drummer. Okay. Okay. I didn't hear. I didn't hear that part. Okay. Yeah. No, I know she is. I just had to look that up. Yeah. No, she, they, but they're hiring a keyboard player. That's why I got into them a first place. I got into them when I was a kid because I saw this guy with a big nose playing like four instruments at once. So now you're not going to do that. Um, no, her drummer, her last name starts with her name. But, you know, I'm sure their wives love that. She's going to be a lot of fun on the tour bus. But, um, you know, you know, there's there's top-notch drummers their age that would be perfect Mike Portnoy's been preparing for there's a guy who has a channel on YouTube he's played every single rush song perfectly he has all the equipment and we wouldn't even need to pay the guy but no they have to go for the PC option
Starting point is 01:40:33 and then hiring a keyboard player and god knows what else maybe backup singers who knows it really it's got me it's got me irritated very irritated well yeah it just looks like you're typical You know, you would think that they would have enough money considering that I think Gettie was pretty much in charge of a lot of the business. And considering his background, you would think he'd be a good businessman. But maybe this is just more of a cash grab. I think that's what it is. And I don't think of a lot of guys my age who you think would be your typical fan are buying. So they came up with that stupid excuse.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Yeah, I'll just listen on the platforms. I won't know. Going to a concert now is just having a bunch of people with their phones in the air. Yeah, that's true. I've been to a few recently, but that's not one I'm doing. That's not rushed to me. That's a management company who needs some money. All right, picking up where we left off last time. The check of GPU had second place in terms of real power after the party. A researcher of archival material. whom we quoted in Chapter 16 reports interesting statistics on the composition of the Cheka in 1920, 1922, 23, 24, 25, and 27. He concludes that the proportion of national minorities in the apparatus gradually fell towards the mid-20s. Quote, in the OGPU as a whole, the proportion of personnel from a national minority fell to 30 to 35 percent
Starting point is 01:42:08 and to 40 to 45 percent for those in leadership. These figures contrasts with 50 and 70% respectively during the Red Terror. However, quote, we observe a decline in the percentage of Latvians and an increase in the percentage of Jews, end quote. The 20s was a period of significant influx of Jewish cadres into the organs of the OGPU. The author explains this, quote, Jews strive to utilize capabilities not needed in the pre-revolutionary period, With the increasing professionalism and need for organization, Jews, better than others, were able to meet the needs of OGPU and the new conditions. For example, three of Zerzinski's four assistants were Jews, Gia Goda, V.L. Gerson, and M. M. Lutsky. And all four of them, extremely bloody men, that would blow anyone in the Third Reich or anywhere else out of the water, maybe except for mouse people.
Starting point is 01:43:05 there's a lot going on here the Soviet Union was unique in the sense that there was a party and then there was a state two very different things and they always worried about keeping those two things apart Cheka was connected to the party and they tended to be relatively independent they were they were an arm of the party later on we talk about the army which is you know connected to the state and army of military intelligence and the rest of it
Starting point is 01:43:40 and sometimes they clashed it's kind of like the securitante and the army in romania in the eighties securitate was a party uh almost a personal um police force the army was different the army was run by different people and um very different types of people when you talk about the checker that the whole point of it was in defense of the revolution is is with the russian in defense of the uh you know the games of the revolution or something um this was a very jewish institution and from the communist point of view it made a lot of sense for lenin trotsky because they were ruthless they didn't care they had no problem murdering uh russian peasants who they hated to begin with um what is it with latvians
Starting point is 01:44:24 uh we see them as the the second minority all the time um but um they were uh they were finally absorbed into the USSR in under Stalin, like in 40, but they were like semi-independent at this point. But anyway, and the Jews, Latvians were always there, Jews, Latvians
Starting point is 01:44:46 and Tartars, maybe. But Jews dominated. And it didn't really matter. The numbers don't matter. And you just need a handful of them in an organization like this and they run it. We already mentioned that. You know, they tend to take over and run the business. But when it came to violence,
Starting point is 01:45:02 Especially at this time and in this place, they were very good at what they did, unfortunately for humanity, unfortunately for civilization. And the second largest church in the universe, which was Russian Orthodox Church, after Rome, was absolutely decimated by the time World War II broke out. And that takes a lot of work. there was very little left when Germany invaded Ukraine and places south was a little bit better off but in the heart of Russia it was it was pure genocide and done on purpose and it seemed to be you know from the point of view of any communists and I say this in my book why you know it's one thing to be an atheist but this brutal torturous persecution of the truth church. That's from the Jewish side of things. Non-Jewish socialists, you know, they might have liked them or not believed in it, but they wouldn't have acted like that. It was a huge waste of resources, and it made the party extremely unpopular, among many other things. Of course, starvation didn't make them very
Starting point is 01:46:12 popular either, but this certainly didn't help. So many Orthodox institutions, going back to the Middle Ages, already functioned on basic, you would think, socialist principles. You had so many artels, labor artels in the cities, A, R-R-T-E-L, Russian word, the urban version of the commune. The commune, of course, in the countryside, was dominant. These were essentially Christian and idealist socialist institutions. They were cooperative, put it that way.
Starting point is 01:46:41 That's the first thing that they destroyed. The Brotherhood of the Holy Cross was almost a semi-monastic labor union, kind of. And they had branches everywhere, destroyed. You would think that a socialist would want to maintain these. No. And this is how we know that socialism really wasn't the issue. Workers weren't the issue. Peasant certainly weren't the issue. These institutions were to be destroyed. No, Marxism to them meant power. It meant the rule of a certain minority group. And we could use
Starting point is 01:47:12 as many hangers-on as we can have, but we'll never trust them. And as I said last week, it's no accident. I don't think the dictators, with the exception of Andropov in very late in Soviet life, were basically non-Jews. Lenin's always going to be, Lenin had some in the Blanc family, of course, but he wasn't perceived as a Jew. Let's put it that way.
Starting point is 01:47:37 He wasn't perceived in public as a Jew. That's no accident. But under him, of course, Trotsky was just as powerful as Lenin was. It was man. you know, 50% 70, Jesus, during the Red Terror. Yeah, that's the height of it. So this is an extremely important paragraph.
Starting point is 01:47:58 But the key issue is there was a concern of maintaining a party, which was different from the state. And there was a clear line there. And whether the Jewish issue mattered there, the Communist Party was Jewish, the state, maybe less so. And that may have had something to do with it. never thought about it too much, but that's where we seem to be headed here, and that's the point of this paragraph.
Starting point is 01:48:25 In the 20s and 30s, the leading Czechos circled over the land like birds of prey, flying quickly from cliff to cliff, from the top ranks of the Central Asian GPU, off to Belarusia and from Western Siberia to the Northern Caucasus, from Karkov to Orenberg, and from Oral to Vinica, there was a perpetual whirlwind of movement and change. And the lonely voices of those surviving witnesses could only speak much later, without precise reference to time, of the executioners whose names flashed by them. The personnel, the deeds, and the power of the Cheka were completely secret. Yeah, secret then, not secret now. For the 10th anniversary of the glorious Checa, we read in a newspaper a formal order signed by the omnipresent Unschlicht from 1921, department head of Cheka from 1923, member.
Starting point is 01:49:18 of the Revonsové from 1925 Department Narcom of the Navy. In it, Yagoda was rewarded for particularly valuable service for sacrifice in the battle with Counter-Revolution, also given awards were M. Triliser distinguished for his devotion to the revolution and untiring persecution of its enemies, as well as 32 Chekhas who had not been before, had not been before the public until then. Each of them with a flick of a finger could destroy any one of us. Among them were Yaakov Agronoff for the work on an all important political trials. And in the future, he will orchestrate the trials of Zinoviev, Kamenev, and the Industrial Party trial, and others.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Zenovi Katsnelson, Matvi-Berman, transferred from Central Asia. to the Far East, and Lev Belski transferred from the far east to Central Asia. We talked about this before, how these guys, and you know, you schlicht, I think it's unshlicht, I think that's how you say it. Oh, that's not a Russian name. These people are still relatively unknown. This is a, at the time, say 1920s, this was a unique institution. And it could only exist in the modern world. Because in order for this, organizations like this to function. You need technology. You need urban planning. You need, you need, you need modern methods of bureaucracy. You need modern weapons. You need, you need modern methods
Starting point is 01:50:56 of surveillance. None of these existed prior to majority. No one has suffered under something like this before. And living under, part of the issue was, of course, they couldn't kill everybody. They couldn't arrest everybody. But it didn't matter. One of the things that Stalin mentioned about his, I think there's Stalin-A-Barrie mentioned about method concerning that was it really didn't matter. The great thing, every once in a while just arrest someone for no reason or because we had a rumor or something like that, everyone else is going to shut up at that point. They love the idea of arbitrariness because they put everyone else on edge all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Keeping people off balance was very important. But at this point in Soviet history, it was just a whirlwind, as he said, it's a really great word for it. but I love how they bring these guys he goes from okay the defense of the revolution or against counter revolution check it means then he goes to
Starting point is 01:51:53 the deputy of the Navy what the hell do you know about the Navy he was nobody he you know and we've seen this before they take these guys they put them in all kinds of places I love it when they put them in charge of farms they don't even know where food comes from
Starting point is 01:52:07 and they're making decisions in terms of agriculture no wonder they were starving well they weren't starving but much of the country was. I also want to point out that at this point, Russia was Soviet Union, now I guess Russia was gone. Soviet Union was being fed by the West. Woodrow Wilson initially set up an entire system where Colonel House, of course,
Starting point is 01:52:32 so much American grain was sent to the U.S.S. One of the reasons they could go after the peasantry and not worry about it. So they were being fed at least for a while by the Midwestern Americans. And the fact that American businesses were heavily invested in the Soviet Union, starting in the, starting, you know, in the say in the early 30th, they did it in the 20s, definitely, but heavy in the 30s, during the Depression, would be desperately needed that in the U.S. There's something, you know, capitalist or, you know, capitalist and Marxists, despite the nonsense at root are the same. They have all the same assumptions about human nature and human beings and about what makes people happy and what doesn't. I also want you to keep in mind that, you know, these purges, gulag, everything, that wasn't Stalin's thing. That was Lenin and Trotsky's thing. One of the things that the socialists will do and have been doing for a long time is say that all the tyranny in the USSR was Stalin. Stalin distorted everything.
Starting point is 01:53:33 As if everyone else was okay or, you know, they wanted to defend Lenin. Lenin had lived or had been totally different. Lenin was doing Lenin and Trotsky were doing the exact. We're doing the exact same thing that Stalin did later on. The only difference is Stalin had better technology. She was more secure in his position. The party was larger, et cetera, et cetera. You know, the U.S. and the West had built a industrial economy slowly but surely.
Starting point is 01:53:58 He had a lot more to work with than Lennon or Trotsky. He formalized the camp. The Gulloch existed under very early in the USSR. I've said in my book, I'll say it now. ideologically and even method there was no substantial difference among Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, or any of his other guys.
Starting point is 01:54:19 They were almost identical. There's nothing special about Stalin except maybe his time period and what he had to work with. They were very, very similar in terms of all of this. So don't act like Stalin was different. I know there's a lot of Russians who love Stalin. They're nationalists. They think Stalin was a national.
Starting point is 01:54:38 So many. And I've been railing against this. for a long time. A lot of Russian Orthodox over there have been too. But that's very common. They liked the idea that Russia was, Russia, in big quote, was strong and feared and everything. Oh, well, I think they are now. But there's this nostalgia. And I have the feeling that comes from the 1990s. Because frankly, Soviet Union was Zanidu compared to the 90s. People were dying, again, of starvation. And I guess who was running the country at the time? who was running the, you know, they destroyed Russia in the 20s and 30s.
Starting point is 01:55:14 They destroyed Russia again in the 90s. Different systems didn't matter, same group of people. And I always found that fascinating. But that's what's happening here. But the more important point is that there was always a dual system. Same thing for, you know, the Eastern Bloc in general. It was a party on one side that was usually separated from the state. And that sometimes calls problems.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Sometimes it didn't. The army was very different from the Cheka or the KGB or whatever. Sometimes they clashed. So, anyway. There were several new names. Lev Zalin, Lev Meyer, Leonid Bull, dubbed Warden of Zolofki, Simeon Gendon, Carl Polker. Some were already known to only a few,
Starting point is 01:56:02 but now the people would get to know them. In this Jubilee newspaper issue, we can find a large image of Slick Mishinsky with his faithful deputy Yagoda and a photograph of trilliser. Shortly afterward, another 20 Chekhas were awarded with the Order of the Red Banner, and again we see a motley company of Russians, Latvians, and Jews, the latter in the same proportions, around one-third. Some of them were avoiding publicity. Simeon Schwartz was director of the Ukrainian Cheka,
Starting point is 01:56:33 a colleague of his Yvese Shirvind, directed the transport of prisoners and convoys throughout the USSR. Naturally, such Czechos as Grimmeril Haifitz, a spy from the end of the Civil War to the end of World War II, and Sergei Spigelglas, a Chequess from 1917, who, though his work as a spy, through his work as a spy, rose to become director of the foreign department of the NKVD, and a two-time recipient of the honorary title of Distinguished Chequist work out of the public eye. Careers of others like Albert Stroman Straub, were less impressive.
Starting point is 01:57:12 He conducted interrogations of scientists during the Academy trial in 1929 through 31. But finally, you see somewhat of a Russian name here, although Albert certainly isn't. But my God, you know, these are, these are, and people knew at the time. Exiles were sneaking things in. So even if they were, the media was, of course, tightly information was tightly controlled the exiles knew better and they were getting information to everyone in russ they they knew what was happening and they knew who was running things every one of these people simian schwartz you know he's the guy we talked about him before that
Starting point is 01:57:50 he left the us so on good terms because he didn't think that they killed enough uh anchy semites which is exactly what he said uh he was a murderer himself direct ukrainian checker that's where the Union of the Russian people was the largest. Of course, Jewish community was the largest as well. He was a, the man was a killer. And he's talking, of course, when he went to the way, he, like a victim. This is how it goes. I would always go.
Starting point is 01:58:16 The total lack of Russian names and the cognitive dissonance of your typical American who wants to learn about this stuff or academic who does know better, reading these, talking about the Russian Revolution with these names. I wonder if Carol Polker is related to the Romanian poker. I don't know. That stuck out to me, maybe. I'm not sure. But, you know, it's elsewhere in Germany under Weimar.
Starting point is 01:58:48 You know, the Germany is being torn apart in Bavaria. And, of course, we talked about Hungary. These were far more Jewish than even the USSR. And there were a couple of offsuits. It was Bavaria and then one up north. industrial city up north that went, became, you know, People's Republic during the late Vimar era, very, I mean, you couldn't get, you couldn't get more Jews there. You know, it was purely ethnic and everyone knew it.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Hungary was just so blatant, it was ridiculous. Soviet Union was too big for that. But still, Jews can get a judge. If you were a Jew at this time and had any interest in leftist politics at all, you could fly to the Soviet Union, you could become an admiral, I guess. You could become a policeman, you could become the head of an agricultural community, you could do anything you wanted. And Lenin, knowing that he was in a minority, you know, he was powerful, but, you know, he had to work with Trotsky. And they were different in a few different ways.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Not ideological, this is strictly, you know, in terms of experience and personality, ideological in terms of violence. So they were identical. But, you know, when Trotky, when it's exile, that's when all this started. That's when the beginning of the neocon started. He tried to pretend that I'm different. I wanted democracy and freedom and everything. Of course not. He was active right now.
Starting point is 02:00:11 He was signing off on all this stuff. He was no different. In exile, though, he tried to create an image of himself. Probably in today's money would be a billionaire. You know, he had two bank accounts. One in Mexico and one in Switzerland was finally uncovered. Um, so, um, that's when this, this all started. This is all Stalin's fault. No, this is what was happening here. It was Dudaic from the core. I, I, Lenin, um, you know, Lenin was very
Starting point is 02:00:43 powerful. Um, of course, as was Trotsky. He had to, you know, but he didn't have to, really answer to anybody, but he was not a member of the tribe in that matter, at least, at least not publicly. He wasn't perceived that way. Let's put it that way. David Asbel remembers the Naham, the Nahamins. a family of Hasidic Jews from Gommel. Asbel himself was imprisoned because of snitching by the younger family member Lev. The revolution threw the Nakamans onto the crest of a wave. They thirsted for the revenge on everyone. Aristocrats, the wealthy, Russians, few were left out. This was their path to self-realization. It was no accident that fate led the offspring of this
Starting point is 02:01:24 glorious clan to the Checa, GPU, NKVD, and the prosecutor's office to fulfill their plans, the Bolsheviks needed rabid people, and this is what they got with the Nakhimans. One member of this family, Roginski, achieved brilliant heights as deputy prosecutor for the USSR, but during the Stalinist purges was imprisoned, as were many, and became a cheap stool pigeon. The others were not so well known. They changed their last name to one more familiar to the Russian ear and occupied high places in the organs.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Yeah, this is your, this is a, they're a walking stereotype. This is what we're talking about here. First of all, the fact that they were Hasidic and supposed to be, you know, they're Kabbalis. That was no barrier whatsoever. They had no reason to take revenge on innocent people. That was just an excuse. It's like when people talk about oil prices going up because something happens in the Persian Gulf. That doesn't really have any effect on oil prices.
Starting point is 02:02:26 No, that's a great excuse, though. for oil companies to raise prices. And that's all this is. They, you know, they're using this. And you hear, I can't tell you the debates
Starting point is 02:02:35 I've been in with idiots who will say, well, it's okay that they were killers because, you know, they were taking revenge on anti-Semites. That's why they were part of all this. And we all know,
Starting point is 02:02:45 but the opposite is true. Any event, their false conceptions of the pogroms, anything that they could use, was just an excuse for them to take their hatred of the Goyam out. They didn't need to do anything. These are innocent people as far as they were concerned.
Starting point is 02:03:01 But they needed this kind of emotional purpose and justification. And Western media was writing this stuff down like it was nothing. But I've debated people before on the issue of religious Jews and the USSR. No religious Jew ever had a problem. They had plenty of party members who were religious Jews, so-called religious Jews. It is not really much of a religion. remember the soldiers in sardisees in christ's time were completely materialist it didn't matter and really the pharisees weren't that far behind once you reject logos anything is possible
Starting point is 02:03:42 as he michael jones would say and of course changed their name oh god changing their name that's the one last one last piece of the puzzle there oh me drive me crazy my lord to the Russian ear. See, this Slavic brother became truly a father of Russians, a warplane built with funds of farmer mutual aid societies, that is, on the last dabs of money extorted from the peasants, was named after him. No doubt, farmers could not even pronounce his name and likely thought that this poll was a Jew. Indeed, this reminds us that the Jewish issue does not explain the devastation of revolution, albeit it places a heavy hue on it. As it was also hued by many other unpronounceable names from Polish Jürzinski and Ismont to Latvian
Starting point is 02:04:35 Vatsets, Cetus. And what if we looked into the Latvian issue? Apart from those soldiers who forced the dissolution of the Russian Constituent Assembly and who later provided security for the Bolshevik leaders during the entire Civil War, we find many high-place Latvian Bolsheviks. Gecker suppressed the uprising of Yaroslavluburnaya. Among others, there were were Ruzatik, a bunch of names here. One of those who suppresses to some of our Czechos, Petere, Latsis, and an honorary Czechos, Lithuanian Iusus. This thread can lead directly to 1991, Pugo.
Starting point is 02:05:15 And what if we separate, yeah, and what if we separate Ukrainians from Russians as demanded by the Ukrainians these days? We will find dozens of them at the highest post of Bolshevik hierarchy from its conception to the very end. No, power was not Jewish power then. Political power was internationalists, and its ranks were to the large extent Russian, but under its multi-head internationalism,
Starting point is 02:05:41 united in an anti-Russian front against a Russian state and Russian traditions. All right, let's break this down a little bit. I have read Russian immigrant literature until it was coming out my ears, from the church on down, including some liberal people like Brodsky. Everyone at one point asked the question, why did this happen?
Starting point is 02:06:06 Especially when you realize how well the USSR was doing, sorry, the Russian Empire was doing right after, you know, right up until 1914. And nobody, no one says the Jews took over. No one said, no one's that stupid. Everyone knows that masonry and Judaism was a huge part of this. but that only begs the question. Russian monarchists and nationalists all over the world
Starting point is 02:06:31 said it only begs the question. Yeah, we know that they're murderers and everything else. Now, what happened to Russia, though? How was this permitted? And they go into the decay of the penetration of masonry into the elite, penetration of masonry and that kind of thought, either in a lodge or a Masonic point of view in the nobility.
Starting point is 02:06:56 You know, the Jews, you know, these kind of things, Stolipin's individualism, everyone has a different point of view, but, but no one's, and the Jews were able to fill in that vacuum. The Russian elite were decaying, and I have a paper out, actually, I sent it to E. Michael Jones, I think it was in cultural wars, sexual revolution that took place within the St. Petersburg nobility around the turn of the century. And St. Petersburg was kind of built that way, you know. prostitution was rife. Even Gogol writes about that in Nesky Prospect, one of my favorite works of Russian literature. Very depressing. And, you know, St. Petersburg itself was revolutionary. And you did have intermixing of men and women that you didn't have before. Tolstoy writes about it, for example, in Anna Karinna. So, you know, it isn't as if these monarchies will say the Jews Jews are Jews. They don't. No one says it. No one's that stupid. The Jews, however, were quick
Starting point is 02:08:02 to take advantage of this. They're very sensitive to this kind of thing. Where's the money going in the future? What's going to happen? It's like, you know, why they're, you know, why they abandoned the Soviet unions, for example, in the late 60s, early 70s. They saw the writing on the wall, so to speak. Why they're abandoning Israel now and moving to Dubai. They're good at that. So that's what that's what he's talking about here. Yeah, Jews were predominantly a huge part of this revolution, and the revolution took the course it did because of Jewish influence. But that also begs the question. Why were they in power in the first place?
Starting point is 02:08:39 How was it that even the army, you know, wrote the abdication letter and forced it on Nicholas, who did not voluntarily abdicate? That's the real issue. Why is it that the white armies, many of them weren't monarchists at all? and how was that how was that ever the case so those are the big issues that exile writers talk about when they
Starting point is 02:09:03 because everyone has a paper why the Russian Revolution happened or a book with that title or something like that you know and they all you know
Starting point is 02:09:11 yeah they all know the Jews even liberals knew the Jews were powerful and et cetera but but how it was that they ever got to that position in the first place
Starting point is 02:09:21 that was a much bigger question and I think that's what Sultan Easton is talking about here. A lot of other things happened. Now, it's true. The Jews were always well off. They did very well. There were some poor Jews who, you know, kicked out of the kaha'al or whatever it was.
Starting point is 02:09:39 But we have been reading this book since I was, what, 12 or something? And we have read quite a bit as to how well the Jews did under the Tsar in Russia. But that wasn't the point is how well they did. They didn't have the power that they wanted. And, yeah, they were a engine of the revolution. But you can't just ride in an engine. You have to have a lot of other pieces of a car to go. And that was, you know, the decay of essentially the Russian idea.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Starting, I think, with the revolution of Peter and the decay of the monarchy in the 17th century. I'm sorry, the 18th century, the rise of the old believers. We can go on and on. But so, yes. saying Jews, Jews, you know, that's, yeah, it's true, but it doesn't beg, it really begs the question. And that's what, that's what he's getting on here, I think. In view of the anti-Russian orientation of power and the multinational makeup of the executioners, why in Ukraine, Central Asia, and the Baltics, did the people think it was Russians
Starting point is 02:10:43 who had enslaved them? Because they were alien. A destroyer from one's own nation is much closer than a destroyer from an alien tribe. And while it is a mistake to attribute the ruin and destruction to national chauvinism, at the same time in Russia in the 20s, the inevitable question hanged in the air that was posed many years later by Leonard Shapiro. Why was it, quote, highly likely that anyone unfortunate enough to fall into the hands of the Cheka would go before a Jewish interrogator or be shot by a Jew? I have a paper in the Barnes Review.
Starting point is 02:11:19 I strongly recommend our listeners look at it. I was Willis Cardo's publication. Hired at a grad school I was to as the editor. And I just got a publication on the Soviet Union in Kazakhstan. The Jewish party and Jewish dictator of Kazakhstan. And then his Jewish successor. These Jews didn't know the first thing. If you go back, I did a lecture on it.
Starting point is 02:11:43 It's a picture of Borat in a. Radio Albion, a few months ago, a picture of bore out in front of a Kazakh flag. And, of course, these guys didn't know anything about Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan was mostly nomads at the time. Some settled work in the cities, but nomads were totally destroyed. Kazakh population was cut by a third. And for those two Jews ran pretty much autonomously. And this is why he mentioned.
Starting point is 02:12:15 in Central Asia, I think, you had a huge famine deliberately manifest in Kazakhstan, only one the Soviets took over it. In this case, Soviet meant Jew, and it was very obvious. He was eventually purged at one point. Why I can't think of his name is a mystery, but I wrote on him for a long time. But those two Jews, one in succession, placed in charge of Kazakhstan, destroyed that country. in fact nomadism was destroyed agriculture was destroyed
Starting point is 02:12:49 and huge numbers of Kazakh left the country finally Kazakhs actually Kazakh became a minority in their own country
Starting point is 02:12:58 because of that it was really it's an unspoken un talked about genocide and it really was and you have a few other people talking about it
Starting point is 02:13:08 but I've been you know I had a period where I published a lot on it and it's in the barn review and I have that lecture on Radio Albion, and it's very important. And he mentioned Central Asia, and it does remind me of that. It was Jewish to the core. And that's very important to point out at this point.
Starting point is 02:13:24 But it took just a bit later. We were too early. But a few years, that's going to start happening. And Kazakhstan only recently has been able to recover from them. Yet the majority of modern writers failed to even acknowledge these questions. Often Jewish authors thoughtlessly and meticulously comply and publish vast lists of Jewish leadership at the time. For example, see how proudly the article Jews in Kremlin, published in journal Aleph, provides a list of the highest Soviet officials, Jews for 1925. It listed eight out of 12 directors of Gospank.
Starting point is 02:14:06 The same level of Jewish representation was found among top trade union leaders, and it comments, quote, we do not fear accusations. Quite opposite. It is active Jewish participation in governing the state that helps to understand why state affairs were better than then now. Let me say that again. I'm sorry. Quite opposite.
Starting point is 02:14:27 It is active Jewish participation in governing the state that helps to understand why state affairs were better than than now when Jews at top positions are as rare as hen's teeth. unbelievably that was written in 1989 you know you should be proud that we we sometimes stumble over our words because our brains move a lot faster than our mouths do um when i was a professor i i students always said i spoke too fast too quickly and uh i can't i can't talk any other way especially you know we just so full falling over our words it's it's a it has to do with our brains um well i think i think we should stop there but there's still a lot to say
Starting point is 02:15:09 it's important to note that Jews are top positions in 89 he might be right I already mentioned you know once Israel started winning victories against the Arabs especially six-day war Junkapur all that stuff
Starting point is 02:15:25 defeating both Egypt and Syria lots of Soviet Jews but who's supplying Egypt and Syria and Iraq USSR plus the fact that the industry was already becoming unprofitable post-World War II Reconstruction.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Now we're talking about the early 70s, mid-70s. Being anti-communist somehow became fashionable for one reason, because the Jews wanted to leave. Okay, the money isn't here anymore. Israel has this in with the Americans. We have this flow of money. This is where we're going. That's the future for us.
Starting point is 02:16:06 and because the Soviets wouldn't let them leave because so many of them were high-ranking people there were people who had a lot of state secrets the Soviets said we're not going to spend a fortune educating these people then having them go to Israel and give their information to the Americans so they wouldn't let them go
Starting point is 02:16:25 plus the fact that you know Jews were so pretty important if they left bureaucracies would collapse same thing in Romania elsewhere so they went to the Americans Jewish power and the U.S. and said, we want to leave. We're not Soviets anymore. We want to go to Israel and be a part of the American experience.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Obviously, there's more money there. And the first time ever the U.S. put sanctions on the U.S.S.S.R. First time ever. And they were very weak. They occurred again after the invasion of Afghanistan, but that didn't last. Now, so long as Jews were in power and slaughtering Christians, they got all the investment from the West they wanted.
Starting point is 02:17:04 The minute they wanted to leave and couldn't, the Jackson-Vanic Amendment, I think it was 74 or something like that, all of a sudden there were sanctions on, for the first time, nothing like they have on Putin today, but, and that's when they, that's when they separated. And I have an article coming out on Soviet Union in the 70s, which is very understudied just when you talk about the Jews. In 1989, I think he was right. Yeah, they were rare. They were gone. They were in the U.S. or New York, the promised land, or Israel, which is kind of a secondary promised land. So, yeah, it's hilarious to have him say, the majority of modern writers failed to even acknowledge
Starting point is 02:17:52 these questions. Some of them don't know that they're questions. You know, they live in a censored bubble. You know, others, maybe older guys, they know, but they're not going to have a leave their cushy tenured position, but they don't have to do much work and make six figures to talk about this. Sometimes, you know, it's hard to blame them. I've talked to people about the, I've talked to these guys about this. Some people know, I can never name them. I think they're all retired now, but some of them knew.
Starting point is 02:18:25 But what are they going to do? They can't really do anything about it. This is in the past. Especially after a couple shots, by the way. I used to be out of the drinker way back then. But they started talking like this. So, yeah, the Gulf Bank, that makes me laugh too. They dominated most of the Soviet Union up until the 70s.
Starting point is 02:18:48 And then when the Soviet Union collapsed, all of a sudden they're everywhere again. Because now their asset stripping. Now they're, I think, 0.1% of the Russian population, but still in Ukraine, I think there may be more like 1% of the Ukrainian population, but of course dominate the list of billionaires and millionaires and run the government in Kiev. It just struck me because I was in grad school in the 90s that all of a sudden, you know, you didn't hear about Jewish names. Now all of a sudden they're everywhere because the Soviet Union is gone. Now they're anti-communists, but they're anti-communist because now they could ask that strip with American assistance, go to Israel, go to the U.S., you know, have to be a citizen of the world. Now it's Dubai. Now it's a United Arab Emirates, seems to be the future.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Keep in mind, the Iranians flattened Israel. And that's why I think, you may know better than me, but I think the ban on pictures or videos, being put on social media about burning buildings and stuff like that or is that ban still on? Which one? Ban on what?
Starting point is 02:20:02 The ban on social media pictures or videos of what's happening when the Iranian is destroyed much of this. Oh, they're just, yeah, nothing king. If anything gets out, it's, you know,
Starting point is 02:20:17 it's on phone cameras or something like that. I mean, they have really done a good job of, you know, At the beginning of this, they had their own telegram channel where they were uploading their own atrocities for whatever reason they wanted to do that. But now, you know, it's like most people don't know that like 40,000 businesses in Israel have closed since the quote unquote 12-day war. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:20:47 Iran won that. Iran's okay. Israel was on fire for a long time. time. And I don't know about rebuilding. So now, I just, if you go to my radio Albion page, I just did a lengthy lecture on Dubai. Dubai is everywhere. Everyone wants to go there. It's on every advertisement. I'm seeing it everywhere. I can't get away from it. Okay, the Jews have something to do with that. And that's why. Dubai is being colonized. 30 years ago, it was a fishing village. Millionaires and billionaires from Israel are moving to Dubai. UAE is about as Muslim
Starting point is 02:21:20 as I am at this point. and they're taking over they're making a deal with the devil they're going to be screwed now UAE is going to be a target for the Iranians UAE has made their deal they're as Zionists as anybody else
Starting point is 02:21:35 and there's there's factions that don't like it but they're colonizing some of the Emirates directly and they're moving to Dubai Zelensky has a very expensive condo there that he just bought
Starting point is 02:21:49 maybe very recent a couple years ago through an intermediary a lot of these elites have have mansions condos
Starting point is 02:22:00 townhouses there this is where they're fleeing to and yes huge numbers of businesses closing massive out migration from Israel
Starting point is 02:22:09 and as I think I was the first one to expose massive desertion from the army not that many you know army guys there
Starting point is 02:22:18 how many How many Jews are there that could actually are at the age and physical condition to serve in the Army? Well, after their eighth tour, they're done. Oh, you want to hear something crazy that's going on right now? I've pretty much been, I'm pretty much staying off of X. It's just, it's just total slop. Yeah, Twitter's just total slop. But I've been going on Facebook lately, and Facebook is one Hasbara post after another.
Starting point is 02:22:47 and something I noticed today was they're doing these AI images of what they are calling Palestinians and Hamas and or taking random pictures from the internet and giving the giving applying a name and saying yesterday the IDF killed this terrorist from Hamas and then you go and look up the name and the name doesn't exist yeah it's just this complete propaganda push and you know it's well because Israel is paying people $7,000 a post to do things like this. Yeah, yeah, they've been doing that for quite some time, but it's gone into overdrive now. And I think a lot of them are based in America as well as in, as in Israel.
Starting point is 02:23:30 Israel's not a safe place. Oh, India. India is where a lot of these accounts that are doing this are Indians. And, and, and I tell you that you're going to start seeing a lot more from the United Arab Emirates. but we're at an age I was there at the beginning of the computer revolution so were you I could spot AI
Starting point is 02:23:52 AI still hasn't reached the point where I'm fooled by it boomers might be fooled by it I think boomers are boomers will read a caption of a picture and believe it which could be anything they didn't Vietnam
Starting point is 02:24:04 all these pictures they had a caption that described it it could be any damn thing but they read the caption and they think that's what it is they may be fooled by it but we know from so many different sources. That that war decimated Israel. The Iron Dome was completely destroyed. Iran
Starting point is 02:24:22 showed itself extremely powerful and very impressive. Not that you would hear about it anywhere else. However, AI is now taking over, apparently, as a way to make it look good. The U.S. did the same thing, maybe not so much AI, but U.S. did the same thing in Afghanistan. I remember a video I saw on YouTube, the thing was U.S. helicopters destroy a Taliban drug lab. Of course, Taliban was not involved in drugs whatsoever. U.S. was. Now, it was a nighttime goggles, a green, you know.
Starting point is 02:24:57 It could be any building. It was just a building. I don't know who the heck it was. But the boomers all accepted it. Another one was a firefight with ISIS. This was also in a part of Afghanistan. Now, I watched this video. there were Americans shooting
Starting point is 02:25:15 I didn't see anyone else I didn't see any return fire I didn't see anything it was just a bunch of Americans in a trench so this method has been used this is propaganda
Starting point is 02:25:26 I mean all countries do this during wartime it's true but the Israelis and the Americans are at a different level and now with AI I can picture these
Starting point is 02:25:34 you know 75 year old boomer which are oh my God could they believe anything they see so but that's just you know the Afghanistan
Starting point is 02:25:44 understand stuff. I used to laugh. All the ISIS crap. I mean, I knew ISIS was phony. I mean, they're an actual group, but they're 100% American. And kosher. The Charlie's Angels picture in the desert,
Starting point is 02:26:00 I'll never, and they people bought it. They had their own fleet of oil tankers overnight. You know, it was obviously supported by very powerful people. So, So I think with that kind of thing, yeah, there's a certain element who wants to believe it, certain elements that's not smart enough. They're not critical thinkers. But I wonder today. I'm a little bit more optimistic than I would have been like, say, five years ago that there's plenty of people who are going to know this is AI. AI hasn't quite gotten to the point yet where it's perfect. Maybe it never will. There's always something off about it. I know an AI picture. So that's where we are as far as that goes. But it's very powerful. powerful aspect of propaganda that me and you didn't know that much about, say, a decade ago.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Yeah, there was actually a picture and it was going around and it was being spread as truth. And I'm sure, I mean, obviously the people who made it and the first people who spread it knew it was AI and that it was bullshit. But I saw people spreading this, people with like big accounts. It was supposed to be a picture of Diaryasan, Yassan, not Diary Yassin, but. Baba Yar. And it had, it has a bunch of, it was a trench. And it has a bunch of people of, of allegedly Jews who were in this trench. And like, you can see little kids whose bodies are half into the, into the side of the trench. So it's like completely uncanny. And it's like, and people are spreading this like, it's real. And I'm like, do you even know what the whole
Starting point is 02:27:37 narrative is? There's no trench. Where's the friggin, you know, where's the cliff? You know, this alleged cliff and everything. It's like, come on. Come on. The Jews tried to promote the idea, because, you know, the ISIS will never attack an American, Saudi, or Israeli target. Never. Not in a million, any ally of the EU will never, never touch. Never fight for the Palestinians. In fact, fight against them. They tried to fix this with a picture of a guy halfway into a ditch that he was supposed to be digging. He says, an Israeli spy killed by ISIS. Now, I'm not. looking at this picture. It went around, still on the line somewhere. This guy doesn't have a piece, it doesn't have a drop of sweat on him. His orange jumpsuit. Now, which, what terrorist group has a, has standardized jumpsuits for its prisoners? They had the best laundry I ever seen. All these things, not a drop of sweat on him, not a drop of dirt on him. He was this Photoshopped into that picture, Photoshop, something by the way created by Stalin. And people bought it. Oh, see, look, look, they do with Israel. How do you? How do you? How do you? How do you
Starting point is 02:28:43 First of all, this guy could be anybody. He doesn't have any sweat or any, and he's supposed to have been digging this thing in the desert for however long it takes to dig, you know, hours. It israeli spot. Who knows who the heck it was? It was a terrible photo shop jump. All those early ISIS videos were bad.
Starting point is 02:29:00 The Osama bin Laden videos were bad. Sometimes I think they'd do it on purpose, see how far they can go. But that's where we are. And I get kicked off of Facebook groups by pointing this out. It's the most obvious thing in the world, but there's a boomer element out there that that has trouble absorbing this kind of thing, the hell with them. Well, let's leave it on that.
Starting point is 02:29:28 I couldn't. I mean, I echo that sentiment 100%. I mean, I, and, you know, it's one of those things where as soon as you, as soon as you say, you know, screw the boomers, like really cool boomers. boomers who know exactly what's going on will be like, hey, you know, I know, it's like, yeah, yeah, it's like the woman when you tell a woman, you know, the average height of a woman is five foot four and she'll scream, I'm five foot six. And it's like, really got, come on. Come on, you know, relax. I'm, I'm, I'm very lucky. My parents weren't boomers. All my friends were. My parents were born in the 30s. They were kind of like early, late silent generation.
Starting point is 02:30:09 So there, there was nothing in my family at that level. Boomers just, yeah, it does refer to an age group. But certainly when you, I'm referring to a group. I'm not referring to individuals. Yeah, it's a mentality. It's a, too. It's truly a mentality. Right. We almost use it kind of with almost older normie. Put it that way. Correct. All right. Everybody go to the show notes and go to the description on the videos. Donate to Dr. Johnson. Start getting your Christmas present ready for Dr. Johnson or you can go give them a Halloween treat of some sort. Send them some Bitcoin or something like that. And yeah, we'll be back in a few days to pick up where we'll start talking about the Army, get into the Red Army. That's why we stopped this, because at this
Starting point is 02:30:57 point there was a change in subject. But talk to you in a couple of days, Dr. Johnson. Thank you. All right, my friend. Thank you. See you then. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. And this is episode number 84. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? You know, I'm glad you asked me. I'm in a good mood. Not just because it's dick chaining,
Starting point is 02:31:21 but I'm in a good mood because this is the first time, I think I'm 100% since the hospital stay. I lost a lot of weight. I'm going to keep it off. I think I feel better than I have in a long time. And so I do appreciate you being patient. I was gone for a long time, or what seemed to be a long time to me, really only five, six days, but I'm 100% now, Marcel, Stanley's brother is, he's doing all right.
Starting point is 02:31:57 He can only eat. I have to feed him by hand. I'm feeding him the squishy stuff if cat owners know what I'm talking about. It comes in a tube. You have a lot of fun with that. He can't really, he has all these, you know, two tumors in his mouth. and he has a his operation is
Starting point is 02:32:14 coming up we'll see I mean you know guarded guarded optimism but either way whatever happens
Starting point is 02:32:24 he's going to be happy and comfortable no matter what what actually occurs medically speaking well that's good to hear I know that's a little depressing but you know
Starting point is 02:32:36 he's a family member he was with me 11 11 years now well no worries about putting up with uh putting up with your absence uh you dealt with me when i had my uh my trials a month ago so um yep right but all right picking up where we left off last time and away we go regarding the army one israeli scholar painstakingly researched and proudly published a long list of Jewish commanders of the Red Army during and after the Civil War. Another Israeli researcher published statistics obtained from the 1926 census to the effect that
Starting point is 02:33:19 while Jews made up 1.7% of the male population in the USSR, they comprised 2.1% of the combat officers, 4.4% of the command staff, 10.3% of the political leadership, and 18.6% of military doctors. They had already developed the idea of the political commissar, or it was in its infancy, that every officer in the Red Army was assigned a party member, often Jewish, to make sure that his actions were party approved. I had the feeling they couldn't have possibly liked each other, but this was something that was starting here. And they weren't military men at all, but because the party feared, like Zuka, popular military men who were not Jewish, as you see, you know, 2.1% of the combat officers, yeah, the men on the field were not Jewish. And I have the feeling that political leadership, not just in the party, but the early commissar system was already developing. and the military doctors is to be understood. I think the 10.3% is probably higher.
Starting point is 02:34:44 And what did the West see? If the government apparatus could operate in secret under the Communist Party, which maintained this conspiratorial secrecy even after coming to power, diplomats were on view everywhere in the world. At the first diplomatic conferences with Soviets in Geneva and the Hague in 1922, Europe could not help but notice that Soviets, delegations and their staff were mostly Jewish, 50. I don't know if that's a footnote or if that's, yeah, they're not doing the hot
Starting point is 02:35:16 links this time, I guess. Okay. Due to the injustice of history, a long and successful career of Boris Yefimovich Stern is now completely forgotten. He wasn't even mentioned in the great Soviet encyclopedia of 1971, yet he was the second most important assistant to Chisharan during Geneva, during Genoa Conference and later at Hegg conference, and still later, he led Soviet delegation during longstanding demilitarization negotiations. He was also a member of the Soviet delegation of the League of Nations.
Starting point is 02:35:50 Stern was ambassador in Italy and Finland and conducted delicate negotiations with the Finns before the Soviet Finnish War. Finally, from 1946 to 1948, he was head of the Soviet delegation at UN. And he used to be a longstanding lecturer at the high diplomatic school. At one point during anti-cosmopolitan purges, he was fired. But in 1953, he was restored at that position. Yeah, we're going to get to the so-called Stalinist anti-cosmopolitan purges and how Jews thrived and thrived and thrived in the Stalin years. I also want to note about the early Red Army. I've said this before, but we'll get into it in more detail, I think, over the next few weeks. This wasn't a normal army.
Starting point is 02:36:37 This was a revolutionary army. This was to fight a civil war. In terms of building up a normal army, like anywhere else in the world, this is what Stalin worried about. This is why he purged so many officers because they were from that crowd. Very few of them were Jews. But they were very good guerrilla fighters. They were good in the civil war. But in terms of fighting someone like Germany or Japan, they, you know, they didn't have the training.
Starting point is 02:37:08 They were ideologues. We needed actual military men. You know, we hear these numbers like, you know, 2.1% or 10.3%. But wherever, especially when it comes to the police services, camps, Jews always dominate. It doesn't matter what the numbers really are. When it push comes to shove, the most important posts, and especially the punitive organizations, you have Jews everywhere. And that never stopped until maybe when Khrushchev fell. An associate of Chicheren, Leon Hikis, worked for many years at the Narcomat of the Foreign Affairs.
Starting point is 02:37:57 In 1937, he was sent to a warmer place as ambassador. to the embattled Republican government of Spain, where he directed the Republican side during the Civil War, but was arrested and removed. Fyodor Rothstein founded the Communist Party in Great Britain in 1920, and in that very year, he was a member of the Soviet delegation and negotiations with England. Two years later, he represented RSFSR at the Hague Conference.
Starting point is 02:38:25 As Litvinov's right-hand man, and he independently negotiated with ambassadors to Russia in important matters. Until 1930, he was in the presidium of NKID and for 30 years before his death, a professor at the Moscow State University. What careers these Jews have? It's absolutely incredible. Yeah, I love it. He's a founder of the Communist Party, but also then the ambassador.
Starting point is 02:38:49 This guy was neither British nor Russian. We've seen already in a separate show, we did Jews founded the Communist Party in Cuba. and Mexico, just wherever you go, yeah, I'm sure the Communist Party was, you know, 90% Spanish-speaking non-Jewish. Oh, oh, and I did a paper, the Communist Party of Indonesia, was founded by a Dutch Jew because it was a Dutch colonial. I'd be everywhere you go. That actually got very, very big. So, yeah, it's a little funny if it wasn't so bloody. We all saw. Now, all of us love Francisco Franco. Franco was, when I was in college, I had a frame picture of him.
Starting point is 02:39:35 My father did for me on my wall. And people always, kids always wonder what the hell. Who the hell's that? I would explain to them in great detail, especially after I read Stanley Payne's biography. And, yeah, Stalin was financing the Republican side. Well, most of the West was financing the Republican side. And it was only Germany and Italy that was financing the Republican side. the right side.
Starting point is 02:40:02 And on the other side of the globe in southern China, M. Grusenberg-Boroden had served for five years when the December 1927 Canton Rebellion against the Kuomintang broke out. It is now recognized that the revolt was prepared by our vice-consul-Abram Hasis, who at age of 33 was killed by Chinese soldiers. Isvestia ran several articles with obituaries and photographs of comrades and arms under Kwebyshev, comparing the fallen comrade with highly distinguished communists like Fermanov and Fruz. We just, anywhere in the world. Anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 02:40:44 And at some point, the United States cut Shankajek off. I can't remember the names involved. Maybe our listeners do. Jews involved in that. And of course, Mao was able to then take over and slaughter, I don't think anyone knows, 30 million people, and then became the student or the teacher of, oh, well, I shouldn't even say that because Pol Pot, Mao said to Pol Pot that he had more experience than he did. I should be a student of yours. So you have Pol Pot coming directly from Mao. That's what this leads to. And it simply didn't matter to them. how many how many of these Chinese glory were going to be killed you know we hear Chinese Communist Party Cuba and there's Jewish names up and down and it's just it's funny but not in a in a in a comic sense I just looked up in my bookmarks I have a bookmark from
Starting point is 02:41:47 the forward it's a article I've read a few times a Jew and Mao's China and basically it describes how when Mao was coming to power, 80% of his foreign advisors were Jewish. And they brought, and they, it's by the forward. So they're bragging about it. Oh, yeah, Jewish forward, right, right. I thought you meant the forward. Yeah. No, the Jewish forward.
Starting point is 02:42:09 No, the Jewish forward. Yeah. It's that old, it's that old, um, the old trope of is this article the daily, daily forward or the daily stormer? Because why are you, why are you giving us this information? Well, it's great because they bragged about all the Jews in, uh, Biden's administration. So when I did the, when I wrote on that, it was, oh, I have a Jewish source for this.
Starting point is 02:42:29 Who's going to argue with them? They said, how wonderful this is. So they're not, they're not shy. Now, in the future, maybe they won't be so confident. But yeah, this is, you know, once they feel comfortable, they, they can do things, I can do things like that. But it's no shock. And the Rockefeller Foundation is a group that came in to enforce the one child policy.
Starting point is 02:42:49 Now, India has overtaken China. I mean, most of China is empty. They're not overpopulated, but now they're struggling with reproduction because they're a first world country, and they've been for a long time. That's what happens. And that was the Rockefellers were brought in for that. I thought the Chinese were pretty good at eliminating people, but that whole one-trial policy came from the West as well. In 1922, Gorky told the academic Epatyev that 98% of the Soviet trade mission in Berlin was Jewish. and this probably was not much of an exaggeration. A similar picture would be found in other Western
Starting point is 02:43:29 capitals where the Soviets were ensconced. The work that was performed in early Soviet trade missions is colorfully described in a book by G.A. Solomon, the first Soviet trade representative in Tallinn, Estonia, the first European capital to recognize the Bolsheviks. There are simply no words to describe the boundless theft by the early Bolsheviks in Russia, along with covert actions against the West, and the corruption of the soul these activities brought to their effectors. My Lord. Shortly after Gorky's conversation with the Patiev, he, quote, was criticized in the Soviet press for an article where he reproached the Soviet government for its placement of so many Jews
Starting point is 02:44:11 in positions of responsibility in government and industry. He had nothing against Jews per se, but departing from views he expressed in 1918, he thought the Russian should be in charge, end quote. and Pravda's twin publication Dar Amas, Pravda in Yiddish, objected strongly. Do they, Gorki and Shalom Ash, the interviewer, really want for Jews to refuse to serve in any government position? For them to go out of the way? That kind of decision could only be made by counter-revolutionaries or cowards. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:44:47 You know, I tend to agree with how he would put it. We're not talking about individuals here. I've had many Jewish fans growing up. I lived in a fairly heavily Jewish area in central New Jersey, Union County school. And, of course, I went to the University of Hartford, which was disproportionately Jewish. Yeah, I had some problem with people there, but we're not talking about individuals here. We're talking about a collective. We're talking about their collective impact.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Hence, my dentist, for example, would not, you know, I'm not talking about him. I have to actually explain to grown men. the difference between individuals and groups. But this idea that Russians should be in charge, this is something that they smashed. I mentioned many times already, the Leningrad purge. Very few people talk about that. I've been talking about that for a while, which came from World War II, where Jews and the party began to be alarmed because these 100% Russians were defending the famous siege of Leningrad. and all that became very famous and they started talking about Russians should be in charge
Starting point is 02:45:58 and there was a massive attack on them and many of them were either sent to the camps or disappeared or or sent to prison or humiliated or whatever happened to them I have a paper on that too which I'd love to send you I should probably send you that anyway um for you to post um but this the Russian question in quote is it never ends only really in the 70s you know and then you got to the point where in the 80s Russian nationalists
Starting point is 02:46:30 you know orthodox people had sympathizers in the party unfortunately they tended to rely on those sympathizers in the party near the very end these were these were paid he was like Putin's era when he was a young man that's how radically things changed roughly somewhere in the
Starting point is 02:46:49 in the Breznava era and later So in the 80s you had the explosion of groups like pomming it, although I, you know, I knew the leader that I've asked you live in, that they were iffy. But once the Jews kind of disconnected, you had Russian nationalism became the norm, or Soviet patriotism as they were disguised it. Putin comes straight out of that. Guys, his age came straight out of that. At this era, though, very different story. Russians were the most persecuted group, Russians and Ukrainians, for different reasons. So, Ukraine, it was a peasantry. Russians, it was everybody in the early history, first half of the Soviet Union. Because nationalism remains, especially a nation as large as that, remains the enemy of both capitalism and Marxism wherever you go.
Starting point is 02:47:47 And Lenin was obsessed with the issue. Stalin was big on the issue Russians were not allowed to have much power in their own country when it all possible and Russia as a nation which was sunk into the Soviet Union was exploited for all the other poor republics
Starting point is 02:48:06 so that became one of the big issues and then things changed in the 70s and 80s In Jews and the Kremlin the author, using the 1925 annual report of NKID, introduces leading figures and positions in the central apparatus. Quote, in the publishing arm, there is not one non-Jew. And further, end quote. And further, with evident pride, the author, quote,
Starting point is 02:48:36 examines the staff in the Soviet consulates around the world and finds there is not one country in the world where the Kremlin has not placed a trusted Jew, end quote. If he was interested, the author of Aleph could find no small number of Jews in the Supreme Court of R.S.F.S.R. of the 1920s in the procurator's office, N. R.K.I. Here, we can find already familiar, A. Goykbarg, who, after sharing the lesser Sovnarcum, worked out the legal system for the NEP era, supervised development of civil code of our SFSR and was director of the Institute of Soviet Law.
Starting point is 02:49:20 My Lord. You know, law in the USSR was very different than law in the West. The only thing that mattered was the promotion of the proletariat, meaning the power of the party. You know, the law also, you know, the Constitution provided full freedom of religion. But that obviously, or freedom of succession too, really. but obviously that was just those are just words on a page. Words on a page
Starting point is 02:49:46 don't mean very much, especially when you're dealing with this. But yes, this is another place where you're going to find Jews everywhere in the law. Now, I never looked too much into the so-called Supreme Court. I mean, I'm not sure how significant it was. They didn't have an army attached to them, so it really didn't matter. But you have Jews everywhere. It's still a Jewish domain in the West.
Starting point is 02:50:11 and the legal profession, especially among the academics in the U.S. It's just no shock there. You say RSFSR. You're talking about just the Russian Soviet Republic. So, you know, legal system for the NEP era and then everything. So it continually changed whenever they needed it at the, just for the convenience of the party. So law, you know, I don't, citing a law didn't mean a whole. a lot citing evidence in a court didn't mean very much courts did what they were told and um you're
Starting point is 02:50:48 kind of like kind of like normberg you know evidence really didn't matter um and there was really no set procedure not until uh recent recent years to to enforce it this was simply uh soviet legality socialist legality with you know lenin used to mock it calling it uh bourgeois legalism that we have to follow some law for everybody. That's not how it works. Not how a revolution works. That's not how a revolutionary works. Law is what we needed to be at any given moment. It is much harder to examine lower provincial level authorities and not only because of their lower exposure to the press, but also due to the rapid fluidity and frequent turnover of cadres from post to post from region to region. And we've noticed that.
Starting point is 02:51:37 this amazing early Soviet shuffling of personnel might have been caused either by an acute deficit of reliable men as in Lenin era in the Lenin's era or by mistrust and the tearing of a functionary from the developed connections in Stalin's time yeah this is interesting I you know when I first got into the USSR and I read you know many many books on you know I was just a 1819 I was blown away by this and we've talked about it already these guys especially these Jews they go from place to place but they have no expertise in any of it
Starting point is 02:52:18 at least the doctor went to medical school you know we hope but these other people they come in from Brooklyn and now they're head of agriculture in Kazin or something like that and then they become head of the Air Force you know that's what we've been
Starting point is 02:52:36 been seeing this whole time. Yeah, you know, reliable. That might mean Jew, but not necessarily. I think both are true. Reliable men and distrust. I mean, how many Jews are there? I mean, you can't, you know, so you're looking at, you know, if something has 20% Jews, that's really impressive. That means they control it entirely. And, you know, they're not, especially if everyone else is Russian. But this is, and of course, the other issue, too, is the party didn't want anyone getting to know local people. And maybe sympathizing with them. So they were always moving around. Some military
Starting point is 02:53:14 organizations are like that. Some even state police are like that. But you did have, you know, the deficit of Jews. There were only so many Jews in the world. And these guys, you know, I just, I'm shocked about how these, no wonder the economy was a total disaster. It's not just their policy. It's just that these
Starting point is 02:53:30 Jews were put in places. You imagine everything we've talked about, Jews and agriculture. You had Jewish names all over agricultural policy in the USSR. They're overseeing collective farms. They've never seen a farm before. And then the next time they're in the Navy, then they're in a diplomatic corps, and then they're working on the nuclear bomb. It's just shocking. No, I've never come across this elsewhere. I mean, there's a lot of shuffling in other countries, but not like this. Here are several such career trajectories. Lev Mariusen was
Starting point is 02:54:06 secretary of gubcum of oral gubernaya later chair of sauv narcos of tardar republic later head of the department of k of ukraine later chair of board of directors of gas bank of ussr and later deputy narcum of finances of you of the ussr my god morris bolotsky was head of politt todd dell of the first Cavalry Army, a very powerful position. Participated in suppression of the Kronstadt uprising. Later, in NKID, then later, the first secretary of North Ossession, Upgum, and even later, was first secretary of K.K. of Kyrgyzstan. A versatile functionary, Grigory Kaminsky, was secretary of Guvgum of Tula Gubernaya,
Starting point is 02:55:02 later, Secretary of C.K. of Azurban, later, chair of Colc Center, and later, Narcom of Healthcare Service. Abram Komenzky was Narcom of State Control Commission of Donetsk Krivoy, Royal Republic, later deputy Narcombe of nationalities of RSFSR. Later, Secretary of Gupkum of Donetsk later served in Narcomat of Agriculture, then director of Industrial Academy, and still later he served in the Narcomat of finances. There were many Jewish leaders of the Kamsamaul. This is really extraordinary. You can't have a functional country like this.
Starting point is 02:55:51 There was no skilled civil service that you would need no matter what kind of system you have. You need a professional civil service, at least any kind of a modern state or even an empire. But look at these jobs. I guarantee you none of these guys had any particular expertise in any of them. And they go from, I love the one that goes from agriculture to industry, you know, without expertise in either one. The agriculture ones really blow me away. And this is part of the reasons why people starve.
Starting point is 02:56:25 They didn't starve. But others starved. The ascendant career of Ephem Zetland began with the post of the first chairman of C.K. R.K.S.m., fall of 1918, after the Civil War, he became Secretary of C.K. and Moscow Committee of R.K.S.M. Since 1922, a member of Executive Committee of K.I.M., Young Communist International. In 1923 to 24, a spy in Germany. Later, he worked in Secretariat of Executive Committee of Communist International, still later, in editorial office of Provda, and even later he was head of Bukharan's secretariat, where this latter post eventually proved fatal for him. The career of Isaiah Corgan was truly amazing. In 1917, he was a member of the Ukrainian Rada, parliament, served both in the central and lesser chambers and worked on the draft of legislation on Jewish autonomy in Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:57:24 since 1920 we see him as a speaker as a member vkb in 1921 he was a trade commissioner of ukraine and poland in 1923 he represented german american transport society in the u s a serving as a de facto soviet planet potentially he found that in shared amtorg american trading corporation his future seemed incredibly bright but alas his future seemed incredibly bright but alas at age of 38 in 1925, he was drowned in a lake in the USA. What a life he had. The American Trading Corporation, you know, it was very clear, and they had many of these, as well as the German-American transfer, a whole bunch of these, where American and German investment could be streamlined into the Soviet Union. Everyone who knows the Soviet Union
Starting point is 02:58:22 cares about one thing, that's industry. They wanted to industrialized and make the entire planet, as Lenin said, in one big factory. And they tried to do that through the collective farm system too. Only capitalism was able to do that in reality today with GMOs and everything else. I don't know if he's intimating that he was murdered or he actually just didn't swim. But at least in this guy's case, he seems to be fairly consistent that he's dealing with foreign trade in the sense that he's bringing investment from the so-called anti-communist west into the USSR. Keep in mind that even Hitler, when he was re-arming, had to do a lot of it in the Soviet Union.
Starting point is 02:59:09 Stalin had his own agenda, but both Mussolini and Hitler sold their most advanced ships without weapons to Stalin. They just got renamed. If you look at Joe Kham Hoffman's, Stalin's War of Extermination, that he goes into great detail. asked all this. They kind of, you know, they had to do this. But the U.S., Germany, France, Great Britain, they created, first of all, they assisted the Red Army. Then they financed the early years with food aid of the Soviet Union. Then they industrialized it. They had so many Soviet students in, you know, universities, Ivy League and elsewhere, learning engineering and everything else. and they went back. So you can't talk to me about a Cold War. You can't really talk to me about, and it continued.
Starting point is 03:00:00 Even the computer system, computer era. I remember Reagan struggling to stop this, but he couldn't. There were never any sanctions. It didn't matter how many people were in the gulag. Only Putin gets sanctions. So, you know, when you talk to me about a Cold War or the anti- this is such a mockery of Marxism. Marxism says this is impossible.
Starting point is 03:00:24 there's no way capitalists were going to assist their enemies. Well, they didn't see themselves as enemies. I think the Soviets saw the West as enemies in some sense, but the West didn't see the Soviets as enemies. You know what happened. Look at the reputation of Joe McCarthy. Part of the thing that Joe McCarthy was going to talk about was all the corporations who invested in the Soviet Union then and now,
Starting point is 03:00:47 then in the 50s. And I think that's part of the reason why they went after him. And being anti-communist, it was brutal. during a Vietnam War I'm sorry anti-communism was to be found among a certain group
Starting point is 03:01:00 sometimes you know they took the credit like Nixon or or Reagan but the just for the U.S.
Starting point is 03:01:08 or was not anti-communist in general yeah sometimes the empire got too large that's true but they would have
Starting point is 03:01:16 attacked you know in Korea or Vietnam matter what kind of empire was there didn't matter
Starting point is 03:01:21 it was Marxist or otherwise despite the fact that in, you know, they murdered Diem in Viedom and in the 70s absolutely sided with North Korea against General Park in Korea. So even that is iffy. It's just, you know, there was a big difference sometimes, as I've said before, between the regime and the state, just like between the party and the state in the USSR. are. Now, the regime is the ruling class, which is international. Everything from military to, to, you know, industry to services to, you know, the people who show up at Bilderberg meetings. The state usually plays along, but every once in a while, you get someone like Nixon, sometimes Reagan and Trump that separate from it. And then there's a war that happened in Vietnam, absolutely. So I really question this is, so the point of Currigan's, life was to make sure that Western investment in everything, whatever they needed, which was everything, and their expertise was coming into the USSR to build it into a modern power.
Starting point is 03:02:36 And that's who actually built it into a modern power. This was Western capital and Western labor. Let's glance at the economy. Moses Rikimovich was deputy chair of Supreme Soviet, of Supreme, of Soviet, of Supreme. Soviet of the national economy. Ruvim Levin was a member of Presidium of Gospeland, Ministry of Economic Planning of USSR and Chair of Gospon of RSFSR. Later, Deputy Narcom of finances of USSR.
Starting point is 03:03:07 Zachary Katzenellenbaum, that's the most Russian name I've ever seen in my life. I know, I know. I feel like doing a dance. Katzen Nellenbaum. Yeah, that's, that's Russian. was the inventor of the governmental loan for industrialization in 1927 and therefore of all subsequent loans. He also was one of the founders of Soviet Goss Bank. Moses Frumpkin, this is comical. This is just comical at this point.
Starting point is 03:03:39 It is, but he was a big deal. Yeah. Moses Frumkin was Deputy Narcom of foreign trade from 1920, from 1920, but in fact he was in charge of the entire Narcomat. He and A.I. Vainstein were long-serving members of the panel of Narcomat of finances of USSR. Get ready. Vladimir off Scheinfenkel. I say, get ready.
Starting point is 03:04:07 I mean. I take it ready for it. I know it's all coming. I have to pause. Okay. I know you do. Vladimir off Scheinfinkel was Narcom of Provon, of. Ukraine, later, Narcom of agriculture of Ukraine, and even later he served as
Starting point is 03:04:24 Narcom of finances of RSFSR and deputy Narcom of finances of the USSR. You know, people focus on the huge man-made famines, you know, like in the 30s, but keep in mind all over the USSR, there were regular famines. And the party knew that the peasants hated them from day one, especially when They started blowing up churches for no obvious reason. Lenin saying that these were black hundred clergy, whatever it was. That, and there were always riots and stuff like that. Throughout all of this, remember, there were also armed rebellions everywhere.
Starting point is 03:05:05 Sometimes small, sometimes large. Some didn't even make it into the Western press. All put down with violence that I couldn't even think of because I'm a normal person. In that regard, and to be head of the bureaucracy dealing with agriculture in Ukraine is certainly nothing at this era, nothing that's to your credit. That's like being Minister of Economic Stability in 1994. You know, this is, and he sees him going from place to place. How could he possibly know? He has no specialized knowledge in any of this stuff.
Starting point is 03:05:45 but by far the most important person in this paragraph is Moses Frumkin he's one of the people who brought a lot of money from the big banks in not just Rothschild but from the U.S. too into France into the U.S.S.R.
Starting point is 03:06:07 They were trading in the gold market at the time. It's part of the reason why they were shutting down churches because they were finding anything with gold in it and melting it down, and they were selling it. They tried to, you know, so in other words, they were a part of various markets.
Starting point is 03:06:24 You know, I didn't think communists did this kind of thing, but this is what they were. And they were fully accepted. It didn't matter whether they were recognized by a country. They were trading with them. You can't trade with a country and send your people there. And even if you don't recognize them, of course you recognize them.
Starting point is 03:06:42 De facto be recognizing. So these guys are serious, and chair of Goss Plan, the beginning of the central planning system. This is just of Russia. But, you know, of course, these are all connected agencies. But again, they're passed around from place to place. It's really, and so whatever expertise they had usually got lost because they were given a new job two seconds later. If you are building a mill, you're responsible for a possible flood. A newspaper article by Z. Zangville described celebratory jubilee meeting of the Goss Bank Board of Directors in 1927,
Starting point is 03:07:28 five years after introduction of Shervonets, and explains the importance of Shervonuts and displays a group photograph. The article allows Loudshinman, the chairman of the board, and Katzen Nellenbaum, a member of the board. Scheidman's signature was reproduced on every Soviet chevonne, and he simultaneously held the post of Narcom of domestic commerce from 1924. And hold your breath, my reader. He didn't return from a foreign visit in 1929. He preferred to live in bloody capitalism.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Yeah, I held my breath. Yeah, I didn't see that one coming either. you don't hear about the shiverinets very often it was but you know they kept they stuck with the ruble and you have domestic commerce
Starting point is 03:08:25 during the NEP was one thing but later on you didn't really have any domestic commerce that wasn't ruled by the party Gulf Bank Gulf's plan that were connected you know when you get down to it the plan system was extremely complicated. And as, you know, the West
Starting point is 03:08:43 exploded in technology, computers, it was very hard for an institution like that to keep up. And as a Soviet Union got older, those who wanted to maintain the focus on heavy industry
Starting point is 03:08:58 tended to win. And even though Khrushchev said otherwise, you know, heavy industry, the only, you know, the West built the heavy industry. You know, heavy industry, meaning the foundational industries, the industries that you need to make anything else in the future. So, steel, you know, power, that kind of thing. But I have the feeling he, this guy might not be the only guy who, uh, um, decided to live
Starting point is 03:09:28 where he could make a lot more money in, in probably in New York somewhere. Speaking of mid-level Soviet institutions, the well-known, economist and professor B. D. Bruscus asks, did not the revolution open up new opportunities for the Jewish population? Among these opportunities would be government service. More than anything, it is obvious the large number of Jews in government, particularly in higher posts, and most of the Jewish government employees come from the higher classes, not the Jewish masses. But upper class Jews required to serve the Soviet government did not gain, but lost in comparison what they would have had in their own businesses or freely pursuing professions. As well, those who moved through
Starting point is 03:10:14 the Soviet hierarchy had to display the utmost of tact to avoid arousing and dissatisfaction. A large number of Jewish public servants, regardless of talent and qualities, would not lessen anti-Semitism, but would strengthen it among other workers and among the intelligentsia. he maintained. There are many Jewish public servants, particularly in the commissariates, devoted to economic functions. Yeah, let me comment on this, because I've come across this elsewhere, the idea that, you know, this is right now, 22, 23, this is an impoverished country. Why are Jews sticking with it? And that's clearly, he's not the only guy that Latin, you know, the guy who defected in previous paragraph. but and he's right in terms of dollars and cents they would have they were better off in the actual under the under the monarchy but the power that they have here the rent that they're able to charge here the destruction of the goyam the murder of the czar chief goyem chief goy of them all um seeing the church is destroyed i think that is very much a a um a form of compensation.
Starting point is 03:11:33 They may have had money. They may have had influence in their own community and under the Tsars, but now they have the possibility of ruling and entirely the most Christian society of Eastern Europe. And I think that more than compensates for the problems that they had. And once, you know, the U.S. and everyone started investing heavily,
Starting point is 03:11:57 profits went up. They called this economic growth. you know, and I guess technically it was, but there was no market relations here. You know, so, yeah, they didn't make as much in dollars and rubles, but they had a lot more things that they didn't have under the monarchy. Laren put it more simply. The Jewish intelligentsia and large numbers served the victorious revolution readily, realizing access to previously, previously denied government service. Yeah, they don't care about government service.
Starting point is 03:12:36 Yeah, that's nothing to that. They care about the fact that now they could charge rents, rent in the economic sense of the term, that they could extract resources from these positions. Now, government service in Israel may be a different story. But in this system, which they saw is pretty much their own, although on foreign territory, government service wasn't the issue.
Starting point is 03:12:58 It's what I said before. This is a power that they had to hurt the goyam, to hurt their enemies, Jewish or otherwise, and to charge rents. That's the big deal here. G. Pomerant, speaking 50 years later, justified this. Quote, history dragged Jews into the government apparatus. That's like how they were forced into finance, too, huh? Yeah, yeah, history. What, history?
Starting point is 03:13:22 I just saw history outside in the hallway. I waved to him. Yeah. Jews all they wanted to do was till the land till the land and um you know the king the kings wouldn't let them so the kings forced them into charge yeah the kings forced them to charge interest charge them interest charge their people interest but a total crock of fucking shit yeah sorry but that kids are being taught that right now in universities all over the country yeah history dragged jews into the government apparatus jews had nowhere else to go
Starting point is 03:13:57 besides to government institutions, including the Cheka, as we commented earlier. The Bolsheviks also had no place to go. The Jewish Tribune from Paris explains there were so many Jews in various Soviet functions because of the need for literate, sober bureaucrats. Well, they're just better than everyone else. Of course, government, this was a totalitarian system. There was nothing else but government institutions. So what's that stupid statement?
Starting point is 03:14:24 I know where to go besides government institutions. That's all there was. it was in construction now but there was nothing else technically and certainly in a few years it would be absolutely nothing else if the entire economy is being planned from Moscow
Starting point is 03:14:40 that implies that the party owns and controls every aspect of economic life so it's hilarious for them to still they still use the language of victimization history drag the Jews into the government apparatus History, they personify it.
Starting point is 03:14:59 Whenever you read anyone using a passive voice like that, personifying an abstract concept, you know that they're hiding something. You know, he knows better. Pomerance is highly literate, Jewish writer. Anyone who uses language like that is hiding. He knows. We're going to do one more paragraph and then we have a natural. stopping point we do however yeah however one can read in jewish world a parisian publication that quote there is no denying that a large percentage of jewish youth from lower social elements
Starting point is 03:15:40 some completely hopeless failures were drawn to bolshevism by the sudden prospect of power for others it was the world proletarian revolution and for still others it was a mixture of adventurous idealism and practical utilitarianism all of these things they're not they're not they don't conflict um to what extent ideology mattered at all was was is up in the air of course you had plenty of doctrinaire marxists but you also had those who used that as a as a springboard into other things um and yes i'm glad that they mentioned that these even the revolutionaries in the 19th century all them were from the upper classes. Again, another mockery of Karl Marx.
Starting point is 03:16:28 I mean, look at the left today. Who is their enemy? Who do they hate more than anybody else? The white working class. I love it when Marxist talk like that, you know, assuming that they even do, you know, working class, you mean working class that you hate, the working class is just voted for Trump, especially the white males. Don't talk about the working class to me. We know what happened in the Soviet Union. We know what happened in every socialist country, except maybe Yugoslavia for a while. Idealism doesn't make any sense. Of course, it's a materialist system.
Starting point is 03:17:02 Utilitarianism. Well, Russell Kirk always used to say that Marxism was a form of utilitarianism. The basic bottom line is that there are more workers than there are owners. So, you know, this is what I said earlier. This gives them far more than just a salary, a bigger salary. It gives them tremendous power. And they're creating an empire of their own. They can't really say so openly.
Starting point is 03:17:31 But I have plenty of PDFs right now of Jewish publications, Pittsburgh Jewish News and so many others forward that brags about this. This is our country. We're bringing this. We're bringing the world into a new world, you know, the future. You know, and they list all the Jews that are involved. We should be pleased with this. and that always is being repeated
Starting point is 03:17:54 that's why we always use Jewish sources when we come up with our arguments and stuff about this stuff so you know and he says the very next sentence is not all we're drawn to Bolivism or meaning some variant
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Starting point is 03:20:08 All right, my friend. Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. This is episode 85. Dr. Johnson. How are you doing today? I'm extremely busy. I'm putting the final touches on this book on the Russo-Ukrainian War. You know, it's hard putting out a book on current events, even though most of it is history now, but anything could happen.
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Starting point is 03:21:02 All right, let's go. Of course, not all were drawn to Bolshevism. There were large numbers of peaceful Jews whom the revolution crushed. However, the life in the towns of the former Palo-Settlement were not visible to ordinary non-Jewish persons. Instead, the average person saw, as described by M. Haifitz, arrogant, self-confident, and self-satisfied adult Jews at ease on red holidays and red weddings. We now sit where Tsars and generals once sat, and they sit beneath us.
Starting point is 03:21:35 These were not unwaveringly ideological Bolsheviks. The invitation to power was extended to millions of residents from rotting Stettles to pawnbrokers, tavern owners, contrabandists, seltzer water salesmen. and those who sharpen their wills in the fight for survival and their minds and evening study of the Torah and the Talmud. The authorities invited them to Moscow, Petrograd, and Kiev to take into their quick, nervous hands, that which was falling from the soft pampered hands of the hereditary intelligentsia, everything from the finances of a great power, nuclear physics, and the secret police.
Starting point is 03:22:13 Well, to be sure, it would be idiotic to say that Every single Jew supported the revolution, although I think the overwhelming majority did. It's also true to say that their ideological motivations may not have been pure, although Lenin and Trotsky demanded, especially in the Red Army, a complete, firm, monolithic ideology. They were willing to kill many people in order to gain cohesiveness ideologically. that is one of the reasons that they were victorious overwhelmingly what he's saying here is that it really didn't matter
Starting point is 03:22:54 you know Marxism was was a pretext it always has been for these people it's power the line you know we sit where generals and even the Tsar sat well hard reading that's what they wanted that's what they've always wanted
Starting point is 03:23:12 I'm not so sure they considered it they're a country because it's not, you know, Israel, but it came very close to it. And, yeah, they were, you know, they clearly were sought out for power positions. And it's the finance, from finances for great power, nuclear physics, and the secret police. Well, keep in mind, they weren't a great power at the time, quite the contrary. But thanks to trade with the West, they will be in the future. they couldn't resist the temptation of esau the less so since in addition to a bowl of pottage
Starting point is 03:23:50 they were offered the chance to build the promised land that is communism there was quote a jewish illusion that this was their country end quote many jews did not enter the whirlwind of revolution and didn't automatically join the bolsheviks but the general national inclination was one of sympathy for the bolshevik cause and a feeling that life would now be incomparably better. Quote, the majority of Jews met the revolution, not with fear, but with welcome arms, end quote. In the early 20s, the Jews of Belarusia and Ukraine were a, quote, significant source of support for the centralization of power in Moscow over and against the influence of regional power, end quote. Evidence of Jewish attitudes in 1923 showed the overwhelming majority
Starting point is 03:24:41 he considered Bolshevism to be a lesser evil, and that if the Bolsheviks lost power, it would be worse for them. Yeah, there may be some truth to that. How many of these Jews were reading Lenin and Trotky and Marx? Some of them probably were reading Moses Hess or Feuerbach, but it really didn't matter. I mean, many Jews had supported the provisionals, you know, anything but the Russian monarchy, which at this point, they, had created this imaginary dragon in their minds.
Starting point is 03:25:17 That's simply how it works, especially when you hear the same things from your people every day, and to justify his murder and what they did, they have an incentive now to make him this monster. And he was anything quite the opposite of that. The only monstrous element was the red forces. So, yeah, I think, I can't. imagine any Jew saying that if the Bolsheviks lost power, we were in trouble. It's kind of like Netanyahu.
Starting point is 03:25:49 If his coalition falls apart, he goes to jail. He gets arrested for war crimes, something like that. He has to go into hiding, whatever it is. He can't flee to Israel. He's already there. So, you know, that's what's, yeah, the mentality here, he's speaking in generalities, but I think he's for the most part, correct. Now a Jew can command an army.
Starting point is 03:26:11 These gifts alone were enough to bring Jewish support for the communists. The disorder of the Bolshevism seemed like a brilliant victory for justice, and no one noticed the complete suppression of freedom. Large numbers of Jews who did not leave after the revolution failed to foresee the bloodthorceiveness of the new government, though the persecution, even of socialists, was well underway. The Soviet government was as unjust and cruel then as it was to be in 1937 and in 1936. But in the 20s, it did not raise an alarm or resistance in the wider Jewish population since its force was aimed not at Jewry. Oh, I think they noticed the suppression of freedom just didn't affect them so much.
Starting point is 03:26:55 And it is true that, again, especially in the 20s, theological uniformity was everything. So the anarchists, the anarchists are, you know, they're useful as a battering ram, and that's about it. they went off to the camps or escaped various forms of socialism that rejected bolivism although I don't know how that would work and I think bolivism is really the only way it's the only trajectory of any kind of socialism internationalist and materialist socialism because you can't have a market so you have to have a totalitarian system of some kind but I do want to note, and I've said it before, I don't care, that it's very common to hear people thinking, saying that Stalin distorted the message of Lenin, that Stalin was different. He created this, this Goulog camp system.
Starting point is 03:27:49 His purges, that's why the Soviet Union became unjust, not realizing that Lenin was the exact same way. Trotsky was the exact same way. Everyone in power was the exact same way in the 20s. but, of course, with much less technology and much less security and power. In the early 20s, it was still unsure. You had peasant uprisings everywhere. The Red Army, you know, it was very, very uncertain, which is why the political commissars came into existence to make sure that these colonels and generals weren't thinking independent thoughts.
Starting point is 03:28:25 I don't know if they foresaw the bloodthirstenists or not, but it didn't affect them. it might in the future, but certainly not as Jews. No one was ever attacked merely or a persecution or repressed because they were a Jew. A Jew may be repressed because they're part of a group that does something stupid or whatever it is. It says something wrong, but never as Jews. When Leskof in a report for the Polensky Commission, one by one refuted all the presumed consequences for Russians from the removal of restrictions on Jewish settlement in Russia,
Starting point is 03:28:59 he couldn't have foreseen the great degree to which Jews would be participating in governing the country and the economy in the 20s. The revolution changed the entire course of events, and we don't know how things would have developed without it. It's funny. You get another commission. I forgot we used to laugh at that, one after another, after another, after another, after another. When in 1920, Solomon Luria, a professor of ancient history in Petrograd found that in Soviet, internationalist and communist Russia, anti-Semitism was again on the rise, he was not surprised. On the contrary, quote, events substantiated the correctness of his earlier conclusions that the cause of anti-Semitism lies with the Jews themselves, and currently with or in spite of the complete absence of legal restrictions on Jews, anti-Semitism has erupted with a new strength
Starting point is 03:29:52 and reached a fever pitch that could never have been imagined in the old regime. so many Jews just couldn't make that connection they deliberately were in denial and when you're in denial you don't know you're in denial or else it wouldn't be denial but once in a while you'll find a very easy logic here of course you're going to have anti-Jewish thinking of course you are
Starting point is 03:30:17 look at what you're doing look at who's in charge but note too that even Peter Herzl, founding Zionism, said he understood anti-Semitism. Now, he didn't blame himself or Jews for anything, but it's just because we're aliens here. We don't really belong here. It makes sense. It would be the same thing if, you know, the reverse for the case. That's why we need to leave. Now, I don't know if some of that mentality may have seeped in. Zionism was looked at with disfavor at the time, always looked at with this favor until, of course,
Starting point is 03:30:56 1948, 49, 50, and that was about it. Then, you know, Stalin loved the idea of Israel as an ally of the U.S.S. But see here, complete absence of legal restrictions on Jews. What he means is Jews can now engage in their most depraved thoughts and justify it by this pseudo-history, which is being taught right this second in any university you choose. so he's not even justifying anti-semitism.
Starting point is 03:31:28 He understands it, though, and it kind of makes sense to him. It's a shame. But that's the end of it. He's certainly not going to blame himself or Jews in general. He's just simply making a logical point. Russian, more precisely little Russian, anti-Semitism of past centuries than the early 20th century, was blown away with its seeds by the winds of the October Revolution. Those who joined the Union of the Russian people, those who marched with their religious standards to smash Jewish shops, those who demanded the execution of Bayliss, those who defended the royal throne, the urban middle class, and those who were with them or who resembled them or who was suspected to be like them were rounded up by thousands and shot or imprisoned.
Starting point is 03:32:15 Well, come on, we already talked about this. the Union of the Russian people always reacted they reacted to the actions of Jews they didn't just decide one day to go and smash a Jewish shop because it's fun they had done something the pogroms usually began
Starting point is 03:32:32 with a march like this they got shot at by very well-armed Jews in their defense organizations and then a battle broke out so and of course you know from from the assassination of Alexander the second on.
Starting point is 03:32:51 I'm not sure if we could put a class. I was under the impression that not just the urban middle class, but you had tons of the working class in Ukraine that had joined as well. It was one of the biggest, I think in my first book, which I sometimes cringe at today a little bit, my first book, Union of the Russian people at one point reached 400,000. The Communist Party was, you know, just a handful at the time. It was a representative organization, but it had its strength in Ukraine because this is where all the Jews were. It wasn't prejudiced.
Starting point is 03:33:26 They knew the Jews on a day-to-day basis. So, you know, they didn't march with religious standards to smash you with shops. They smashed you with shops after they got shot at by the, you know, by Jews and those sympathetic to them. Among Russian workers and peasants, there was no anti-Semitism before the revolution. This is attested to by leaders of the revolution themselves. The Russian intelligentsia was actively sympathetic to the cause of the oppressed Jews, and children of the post-revolution years were raised only in the internationalist spirit. I will disagree with that first comment.
Starting point is 03:34:05 It was relatively common. I think he might mean doctrinaire. you know, I mean, his personal relationships were usually negative, but whether that turned into an ideology is another matter. Strip of any strength discredited and crushed completely, where did anti-Semitism come from? Where? I have no idea. We already described how surprising it was for Jewish, Russian emigreys to learn that anti-Semitism had not died.
Starting point is 03:34:37 They followed the phenomenon in writings of the, socialist, E.D. Koskova and S.S. Masloff, who came from Russia in 1922. In an article in the Jewish Tribune, Kaskova states that the anti-Semitism in the USSR is not a figment of the imagination, and that in Russia, Bolshevism is now blending with Judaism. This cannot be doubted. Yeah, that's huge. For the Jewish Tribune to say that. She even met highly culture Jews who were anti-Semites of the new Soviet type. A Jewish doctor told her, Jewish Bolshevik administrators ruined the excellent relations he had with the local population.
Starting point is 03:35:18 A teacher said, Children tell me that I teach in a Jewish school because we have forbidden the teaching of the Ten Commandments and driven off the priest. There are only Jews in the Narcomat of Education. In high school circles from radical families, there is talk about the predominance of the Jews. Young people in general are more anti-Semitic than the older generation, and one here is everywhere. They showed their true colors and tortured us. Russian life is full of this stuff today.
Starting point is 03:35:49 But if you ask me who they are, these anti-Semites, they are most of the society. So widespread is this thinking that the political administration distributed a proclamation explaining why there are so many Jews in it. Quote, when the Russian proletariat needed its own new intelligentsia, mid-level intelligentsia, technical workers and administrative workers,
Starting point is 03:36:12 not surprisingly, Jews who before had been in the opposition, came forward to meet them. The occupation by Jews of administrative posts in the new Russia is historically inevitable and would have been the natural outcome, regardless of whether the new Russia had become constitutionally Democrat,
Starting point is 03:36:29 socialist revolution, or proletarian. Any problems with having Aaron Moisevich to Aaron Moisevich tankilevich sitting in the palace of Ivon Petrovich, Ivanov, need to be cured. Yeah, one, you know, typical Jewish name. You know, the one classic Russian name, Ivan Petrovich, something like that. Damn, I don't even know where to start with this. The first half of this is true.
Starting point is 03:37:05 Jews had gone so far that ordinary Jews who were kind of okay ended up being, you know, looked that suspiciously. It's very rare in English, anyway, to hear about this. You know, you look at your typical survey history of the USSR. They don't really talk about this very much. The anti-Semitism was crushed by these laws that Lennon passed, that Lennon decreed, and that was the end of it. But we're really talking about one group of people.
Starting point is 03:37:37 We're talking about Gentile members of the Communist Party and Jews who are a little worried that this is making them look back. Now, regardless of the numbers that we cited before, clearly, you know, Jews are, especially in Ukraine, they ran the show. If you are a true Marxist, if you accept this, and you're a Gentile, and you say, wonderful, we have taken over, and then you see a group of people highly privileged, ruling it almost as an ethnic fiefdom, well, this isn't Marxism. And the fact that they may or may not even be Marxist, but they love it because it's materialist and it smashes or gives justification to destroy. the Orthodox Church and Gentile people and society in general. Now, saying it's most of society, that might well be true. We all know why. Now, as far as their explanation, I keep forgetting about this.
Starting point is 03:38:43 It's very bad. We all know that. The argument is, well, the old intelligentsia did not, you know, we need to staff, and I said this before, we need to staff a new modern country, a revolution. It didn't matter which background it is. We needed a new modernized Russia. The only group of people who are competent enough and have experience in these fields somehow are the Jews. That's essentially what they're saying. When anyone uses the word inevitable, I have a huge problem with the word inevitable because that says, well, we have nothing to do with it. It's inevitable, meaning that we didn't do it ourselves is simply the march of history or something. that happens a lot with technology people use the word inevitable it's a terrible word to use
Starting point is 03:39:36 especially when you're justifying something I have no reason to believe that Jews had any more or less experience in administrative positions especially technical ones than your average Russian or anyone else we spent a long time talking about how Jews lied about their occupations.
Starting point is 03:40:00 They used universities, not for education, but for agitation. Their concern really wasn't, you know, really wasn't, this is just a romanticization. Really,
Starting point is 03:40:17 when it comes down to it, saying, I don't know, maybe Jew wrote this, maybe Jew didn't, that Judaism is modernity. and hence Ivan Petrovich
Starting point is 03:40:31 could never do it because Russians aren't modern. Russians are savage they're Asiatic hordes or whatever they the word that Lenin and even Marx used so it was not historically inevitable and we know why that Jews were in those positions
Starting point is 03:40:51 but for the very fact that the Soviet Union need to issue a proclamation that justified it you know, talk about when we were in an argument with somebody, just say that. The Soviet government had to justify
Starting point is 03:41:06 the huge number of Jews in government positions. The only citizens around were government positions. And this was their argument. And it's uncorkly inevitable. So there's no question. This is, this makes it absolutely 100% true and as
Starting point is 03:41:22 certain as gravity that this was a Jewish movement. And when you have the Jewish Tribune saying that Bolivism is now blending with Judaism and that cannot be doubted and then wondering where the anti-Semitism is coming from, that's it. And this is a reason why Sultanistan was condemned.
Starting point is 03:41:47 He had been condemned before that for many other reasons, but why he was condemned in the West and it took so long to get this thing in English. and all the rest of it. Kuskova Parries. Quote, in a constitutional democratic or SR Russian, Russia, many administrative posts would have been occupied by Jews, but neither the cadets nor SRs would have forbidden teaching the Ten Commandments and wouldn't have chopped off heads.
Starting point is 03:42:12 Stop Tankelevich from doing evil, and there will be no microbe of anti-Semitism. I don't know. the socialist revolutionaries and the liberals they were revolutionaries as well they were more towards the French in 1848 revolution but they always chopped off heads remember these kind of governments can only be forced on people and they would be occupied by Jews not just because it's inevitable
Starting point is 03:42:44 but because Jews were always supporting anything that wasn't royalist has nothing to do with with talent or ability or experience. It's that they were more reliable, ideologically speaking, than anyone else. So this is a terrible argument. And, you know, forbidding the Ten Commandments, oh, gee, I thought Jews loved the Old Testament. No, anything in reference to religion was gone. And yes, I think the SRs would have done that. And so with the cadets.
Starting point is 03:43:16 The Jewish emigrate community was chilled by Maslow's. findings. Here was attested SR with an unassailable reputation who lived through the first four years of Soviet power. Quote, Judeophobia is everywhere in Russia today. It has swept areas where Jews were never before seen and where the Jewish question never occurred to anyone. The same hatred for Jews is found in the Vologda, Archangel, and in the towns of Siberia and the Urals. He recounts several episodes affecting the perception of the simple Russian peasant, such as the Tumann produce commissar Indenbom's order to shear sheep for the second time in the season because the Republic needs wool.
Starting point is 03:44:00 This was prior to collectivization, no less. These actions of this commissar caused the Isham peasant uprising. The problem arose because it was late in the fall and the sheep would die without the coats from the coming winter cold. Masloff does not name the commissars who ordered the planting of millet and fried sunflower seeds or issued a prohibition on planting malt, but one can conclude they did not come from ordinary Russian folk or from Russian aristocracy or from yesterday's men. From all this, the peasantry could only conclude
Starting point is 03:44:31 that the power over them was Jewish. So too did the workers. Several workers' resolutions from the Urals in February and March of 1921 sent to the Kremlin, quote, complained with outrage of the dominance of the Jews in central and local government. The intelligentsia, of course, does not think the Soviet power is Jewish, but it has noted the vastly disproportionate roles of Jews in authority when compared to their numbers in the population. This is one hell of a paragraph.
Starting point is 03:45:02 I mean, this says so much here. You know, I think many years ago I mentioned some of those worker resolutions. Now, what he's saying is in central Russia and in the far east, There weren't a whole lot of Jews. So their lack of experience, it doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't deaithophobic. I like that word, by the way. But they'd had no personal experience with it. We started this with the Emperor Paul and the Dershavin Commission.
Starting point is 03:45:37 And he was, they were kind of epilohsemitic even. He goes over there and he sees what the Jews are doing to the peasants, the fraud, the scams for simple people and who trusted everybody and came back to, you know, Paul and then later Alexander saying, this is outrageous. Now I know why they're getting murdered out there. But what he's saying here, and I have, he's certainly true, that, that everyone is noticing. How can you not notice it? Now, I've already mocked many times these Jews who have never seen a sheep in their life, who have never seen a farm in their life, who have never seen a farm in their life who even the soviet the the tsarist government tried very hard to get them to farm
Starting point is 03:46:23 and refused we went through that in great detail but indian bomb was placed in charge of these agricultural areas he knew nothing he knew nothing about planting but he was still giving orders as if he did now i want to mention that the revolt he mentions in this thanks to him turned out to be probably the largest you had I mean Soviet power almost Soviet power was in panic there were hundreds of thousands of peasants
Starting point is 03:47:02 who were at war unfortunately they never really got together and Soviets used poison gas and they simply didn't have the weapons or the organization, the Red Army did. Well, they killed a lot of them. From then on, there was never any, you know, peasants and Soviets were two different worlds.
Starting point is 03:47:29 And then collectivization, of course, destroyed them further. And that's because of this stuff. We've talked, I've said hundreds of times, these Jews placed in charge of agriculture, really? They have no clue what they're talking about. And they wonder why everyone's starving. What they're saying that peasants were lazy? You know, anything but take responsibility. And of course, they did conclude the power over them was Jewish because it was.
Starting point is 03:47:56 Because his name was Indenbaum. And I guarantee you he was surrounded with a circle of underlings, also with Jewish name. The Yisham peasant uprising was really shook the Soviet system. I don't know how much the West knew about it. but it was huge and it showed the Soviet in the words they knew that they didn't represent anybody but themselves they knew that they were destroying the country
Starting point is 03:48:25 and they didn't care their policies never changed in fact they got worse with the introduction of collectivization but the Lenin estate didn't have the power or the security or the men or the technology to begin collectivization although they started that the foundations were laid that had to come a little bit later And if a Jew approaches a group of non-Jews who are freely discussing Soviet reality, they almost always change the topic of conversation, even if the new arrival is a personal acquaintance. Masloff tries to understand, quote, the cause of the widespread and better hatred of Jews in modern Russia, and it seems to him to be, the identification throughout society of Soviet power and Jewish power.
Starting point is 03:49:06 You know, I've said this before, but, you know, they're of repeating. say a lot of things more than once. Could people forget? And I forget. But overwhelmingly, scholars in the Western world, especially in the EU, writing on the October Revolution, rarely mention the Jews at all. And today, you know, at 54 years old, I realize just how absurd those books are. I use the same slogan every time. And I've seen, said it to them, some of them, you know, talking about October Revolution and what happened afterwards without talking about the Jews is like talking about Tibet, in fact, claiming to be an expert on Tibet and refusing to mention Buddhism or not knowing anything about Buddhism, or not
Starting point is 03:49:57 even knowing that it's a Buddhist society. That's pretty much the same thing. And so their books are hollow. Yeah, there's some, you get some, I get some good information out of it, just, you know, dates and times and stuff like that. But how do you not mention the Jews? Jews. They were central. They were central to all of this, as we see here. We can list all the names for them if we want. And yet, you know, it's just like, you know, I want to write a history on, I want to write a history on Ukraine and never mention the Cossacks, or even not know they exist. It's absolutely, that's the absurdity that this accumulation of literature has reached Although, I have to admit, there are a handful of mainstream academics who do mention them.
Starting point is 03:50:47 Himka, I think, is one in his very huge history of Ukraine, and I've read many times, there are a few who mention that Jewish behavior, for example, under Polish rule, was indefensible. Of course, they condemn Kimminsky and all that, but so you do have a handful. but not many so and I think for a young professor writing on this stuff or is someone just starting out
Starting point is 03:51:19 as a writer anywhere they want to get into this stuff yeah they don't want the trouble so somehow they have to create a history of the 1920s USSR without mentioning the Jews which is I don't know borderline hilarious
Starting point is 03:51:33 The expression Yid power is often used in Russia and particularly in Ukraine and in the former palest settlement, not as a polemic, but as a completely objective definition of power, its contents, and its politics. Soviet power in the first place answers the wishes and interests of Jews, and they are its ardent supporters, and in the second place, power resides in Jewish hands. Among the causes of Judeophobia, Masloff notes the quote, tightly welded ethnic cohesion they have formed as a result of their difficult thousand
Starting point is 03:52:08 years old history. Oh, yeah. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to selecting staff at institutions. If the selection process is in the hands of Jews, you can bet the entire staff of responsible position will go to Jews, even if it means removing the existing staff, end quote. And often that, quote, preference for their own is displayed in a sharp, discourteous manner, which is offensive to others. end quote in the jewish bureaucrat soviet power manifests more obviously its negative features the intoxicating
Starting point is 03:52:43 wine of power is stronger for jews and goes to their head i don't know where this comes from perhaps because of the low cultural level of the former pharmacists and shopkeepers maybe from living earlier without full civil rights you imagine thinking that way living without full civil rights they were a privileged group of people they they did better than your typical russian peasant any day the week. The hell are they talking about? But Masloff is correct. Tightly welded ethnic cohesion. Now, they haven't been around for thousands of years, but they still maintain that. He's absolutely correct in staff and institutions. It still goes on today. They're a little bit more polite about it. But they always will choose their own under the assumption that he's simply
Starting point is 03:53:31 better. Or he's a relative or something like that. But without any kind of social sanction, they can be discourteous and sharp and everything else and then wonder why they're hated afterwards. The Jews, you know, it's simply no different than giving, like say, we gave the Mexican government completely over to the cartels. You know, it would be a very similar thing, a similar type of government after this. They were a little more than a mafia-style organization, specializing in smuggling and avoiding the census. Prior to the revolution and now, they don't care. This is about them.
Starting point is 03:54:15 Of course, you had plenty of doctrinaire Marxists among Jews, but many of them. Marx was a Jew. He was a materialist. It gave him a justification to destroy Christianity, et cetera. But to say stupid things, like a pharmacist and a shopkeeper has a low cultural level. I mean, talk about, and then because they live without full civil rights, therefore they're going to burn down a church. It's simply stupid, but for the most part, he is correct. Was it yesterday that I played that video for you of Congressman Randy Fine saying that, yeah, Jews have been kicked out of every country they've ever been in, and we've never done anything wrong?
Starting point is 03:54:58 That's exactly what he said. First of all, I was shocked that he even mentioned it. and secondly that he would say I think he said none of it was our fault or something like that but we knew they think that but to come out and say that and have everyone clap for him afterwards
Starting point is 03:55:16 and I guarantee you they were evangelical Protestants in the audience and some Jews but that's really the only support they have left I've quoted Congressman Fine and many other outrageous things in the band he is absolutely grotesque But yes, it's the exact same phenomenon.
Starting point is 03:55:34 Nothing has changed. Yeah, I can't remember if it was Leo Pinsker or another one of their philosophers who said, basically said that if they don't have their innocence, if they can't proclaim their innocence, the jig is up. They have to be innocent of everything that's ever, they've never done anything wrong, basically, ever. We saw that, we saw that at a great expense in the Bellis case. You just mentioned it. I have the feeling many Jews knew that the case was pretty good against him. So they formed organizations, international organization, raised millions of dollars to defend him. And had he been convicted, of course, it's not a ritual murder.
Starting point is 03:56:18 There was no such thing in the Russian law, but of a disregular murder. I had the feeling they had a plan to get him out, get him out of the country or something like that, and then say this was just pure anti-Semitism. Because in the West, at the time, as that trial was going on, I know the Western press. I've seen the Western press at the time well over a century ago where they were vehemently condemning the crap that these journalists were writing about Baylis, making stuff up, you know, just this poor man who was dragged off the street or whatever they said. And so in the Bellis case, we saw that to a great extent. Of course, Dreyfus in France as well. Well, you know, Leo, somebody said this morning, you know, how when black mothers come out and say, my boy didn't do nothing, my boy didn't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 03:57:13 Yeah, didn't do nothing. Yeah, that when it comes down to it, this group right here are the original dindus. We never, we didn't do nothing wrong, ever. Ever. That's true. The Parisian Zionist Journal, Sunrise, wrote in 1922 that Gorky essentially said that the growth of anti-Semitism is aided by the tactless behavior of the Jewish Bolsheviks themselves in many situations. That is the blessed truth. I'm pretty, Gorky wasn't Jewish.
Starting point is 03:57:47 And Gorky wasn't speaking of Trotsky, Zinov, or Kamenev. He was speaking of the typical Jewish communists who occupies a position in the academia, and petty and mid-level Soviet institutions where he comes into contact with large swaths of the population. Such individuals occupy leading frontline positions, which naturally multiplies their number in the mind of the public. DePasmanic comments, quote, we must admit that many Jews through their own actions provoke acute anti-Semitism. All the imprudent Jews filling the communist ranks, these pharmacists, shopkeepers, peddlers, dropouts, and pseudo-intellectuals, are indeed causing much evil to Russia and Jewry.
Starting point is 03:58:32 Hardly ever before inside of Russia or outside of Russia have Jews been the subject of such an active and concentrated hostility. It has never reached such an intensity nor been so widespread. This elemental hostility has been fed by the open and undeniable participation of Jews in destructive processes underway in Europe, as well as by the tales and exaggerations about such participation. A terrible anti-Semitic mood is taking hold, fed exclusively
Starting point is 03:59:01 by Bolshevism, which continues to be identified with Jewry. Well, Pasmanic, for the most part, you know, is correct. He is a Jew. But even for one of them to say, yeah, what is it with pharmacists and shopkeepers?
Starting point is 03:59:16 What do they hate them so much? They keep coming up as a cause of all of this. But I love dropouts and pseudo-intellectuals because they have mountains of them. them. And the argument is that their outrageous behavior at the mid and low levels, like a clerk at the DMV, someone like that who threw his accent, because they, you know, didn't speak Russian. Some, you know, some had a heavier accent than others. You know he's a Jew and, or probably announced it. And, um, they just, they just pissed everyone off almost deliberately. They, they, Somehow, you know, they transferred the old idea that they were going to be rescued by the Messiah by saying that this is the Messiah. Part of the reason, again, why Zionism was looked down upon at this time, because we're, wait, we're creating it right here. I think many Jews didn't believe that, or maybe at the time they didn't, and then he did it later.
Starting point is 04:00:17 But admitting this, as that Pasmanic does, geez, you know, we're at a point here, page 429 in our copy, that you have Jews all over the place. And the best argument we can make comes from Jewish sources. We use them wherever possible. And, you know, they're saying far more than I think they even realize that 100 years later, We're going to be using this to show the world what the Jew is. Yeah, it isn't just Gaza. The same mentality existed then and destroyed one of the most prosperous countries in the planet. Ukraine's same thing.
Starting point is 04:01:09 Ukraine had the West, in this Jewish oligarchy, not taken over. You have a high- IQ population, the most educated population, the highest percentage of advanced degrees of any country in the world, they would be an absolute center of electronics and industry, everything else. But now they're a fourth world country because of the very same people took over. Whatever the ideology is, it's pretty much the same for whoever is victimized by it. And, of course, in Ukraine, there's the same laws against Judeophobia as they have. in the USSR at the time.
Starting point is 04:01:49 But those laws couldn't be enforced if hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people were saying, maybe not in public, but they also say that this is making us look bad. And that's probably the big motivation. In 1927, Mikhail Kozikov shot in 1930 after the food workers trial, wrote in a private letter to his brother overseas about the, quote, Judeophobic mood of the masses among non-party and party members. It is no secret that the mass of workers do not love the Jews. And Shulgin, after his secret trip to the USSR in 1928, says,
Starting point is 04:02:30 no one says anymore that anti-Semitism is propaganda planted by the Tsar's government or an infection limited to the drugs of society. Geographically, it spreads wider each day, threatening to engulf all of Russia. The main center today seems to be moscow. Moscow. Anti-Semitism is a new phenomenon in Great Russia, but is much more serious than old anti-Semitism in the South. Anti-Semitism of the South of Russia was traditionally humorous and mitigated by anecdotes about Jews. Yeah, and they say the South, they mean Ukraine, the old pale of settlement. You had Jews under the Tsars in Moscow, everywhere, but not in enough numbers to do much.
Starting point is 04:03:15 people. And, you know, even in the church services, the Jews are mentioned in the negative all the time. So they knew it just wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't transferred into personal experience every day to the point where they just, just couldn't take it anymore. And what Shulgan is saying here is that, you know, all the old stupid excuses, Shogun is deaf, I don't think it's a Jewish name. All your stupid excuses that you've used in the past. Now, this has been proven untrue. Tsar's government, this nonsense.
Starting point is 04:03:53 Because now we see the real reason. Now, even now, you'll have plenty of, you know, pretty much everyone in academia will use this stupid excuse. I've heard it. I've dealt with it. I've fought it. But this book, this whole section we're reading now is so extraordinary because it's blowing all of their arguments out of the water.
Starting point is 04:04:18 I still can't get over the fact that the Soviet government had to issue a circular. I don't know if it was to everyone internationally or just the society or just the media justifying the fact that there were so many named Jews in all these positions. That blows me away. That's all the information you need against somebody.
Starting point is 04:04:42 Jews need to I know this is impossible, but miracles do happen. Jews have to take responsibility collectively for their role in the U.S.S.R. They demand this of Germans, they demand this of the Serbs, they demand this of Russians, they demand this of everybody, but there's one group of people who really desperately need to look at themselves is jewelry. But their mentality is such that they simply can't. you'll find a Jew once in a while. I've met a few of them.
Starting point is 04:05:16 They tend to convert to other religions, but, and they, after that, you know, most of the converts I know can't stand Jews anymore. And there's a reason why they converted, but,
Starting point is 04:05:29 you know, I think it's a pipe dream. I think that mentality simply prevents the overwhelming majority of Jews from really thinking about themselves. If anything, you know, I used the word projection a lot,
Starting point is 04:05:41 the psychological, the neurotic defense mechanism, and they do this all the time. They can't handle the vices in themselves, so then they project it onto people around them. And that's to be funny. It's really easy to see in Jewish discussion all over the place. Laran brings up an anti-Jewish slogan allegedly used for propaganda purposes by the white guards.
Starting point is 04:06:06 Quote, Russians are sent to Narum, a location way up far in the north, and Jews to the Crimea, a vacation spot. The Soviet authorities eventually became seriously concerned with the rise of anti-Semitism. In 1923, the Jewish Tribune writes, albeit with skepticism, quote, the commissariat of internal affairs has established a commission to study the question of protecting the Jews from dark forces. Yeah, the checker wasn't enough. In 1926, Kalinin and other functionaries received many questions about Jews and letters, and it meetings. As a result, Laran undertook a study of the problem in a book Jews and anti-Semitism in the USSR. From his own reports, queries, and interviews taken we can
Starting point is 04:06:51 presume from communists or communist sympathizers, he enumerates 66 questions from those the authorities received, recording them without editing the language. Among these questions. Where are the Jews in Moscow coming from? Why is authority predominantly Jewish? How come Jews don't wait in line? How do Jews arriving from Berdicev and other cities immediately receive apartments? There is a joke that the last Jew left Berdicev and gave the keys to the city to Kalinin. Why do Jews have money and own their own bakeries, et cetera? Why are Jews drawn to light work and not to physical labor? Why do Jews in government service and in professions stick together and help each other while Russians do not?
Starting point is 04:07:38 they do not walk to work at everyday jobs but are concerned only with their careers why do they not farm even though it is not it is not allowed them why are jews given i'm sorry it's now allowed them which is hilarious i'm sorry which even though it's now allowed them yeah that's a funny question why are jews given good land in the crimea while russians are given inferior land why is party opposition 76 percent jesus Jewish. There's translators note here that says the opposition to the general line of the party within the party itself. Why did anti-Semitism develop only against Jews and not against other nationalities? That's a question I ask all the time and people get pissed when I asked
Starting point is 04:08:26 that question. What should a group adjutop leader do when he tries to counter anti-Semitic tendencies in his group and no one supports him? Oh, my God. All right. Let me finish up and we'll, I think we have a stopping point right here. Laren suspects that these questions were dreamed up and spread among the masses by an underground organization of counter-revolutionaries. As we will see later, this is where some special, this is where some official explanations came from. But he fixates on the unexpected phenomenon and tries to address scientifically the question,
Starting point is 04:09:05 How could anti-Semitism take hold in the USSR in those strata of society, factory worker students, where, before the revolution, it was little noted? His findings were anti-Semitism against the intelligentsia. Among the intelligentsia, anti-Semitism is more developed than in any group. However, he maintains a dissatisfaction rises not from the large number of Jews, but from the fact that Jews presumed to enter into competition. with the Russian intelligentsia for government jobs. The obvious development of anti-Semitic attitudes among city clerks and workers by 1928 cannot be explained by excessive numbers of Jews claiming jobs. That's a quote.
Starting point is 04:09:53 Among the intellectual professions, anti-Semitic tendencies are felt in the medical sphere and in engineering. The army has good political training. There is no anti-Semitism there, even though the command staff of the Red Army has a significantly higher percent of Jews than are present in the country as a whole. Well, because they'll kill them. Yeah, I, you know, these questions are beautiful. I, you know, I've read this book many times before.
Starting point is 04:10:19 Somehow this escaped me. I forgot about them. These are, we could ask these today. But, of course, my favorite is what to the group at the prop leader. These are official, you know, meetings to radicalize an area. what should they do when he tries to counter anti-Semitic tendencies in his group and no one supports him you wouldn't ask that question unless it's happened before unless it happens all the time and as a defense mechanism they say oh this must have been dreamt up by a some underground kind of
Starting point is 04:10:53 revolutionary group this can't be serious this can't be real um and um uh you know the intelligence You know, then he, okay, do you want to finish the, the different groups, or is that too long? Yeah, let's, let's, uh, let's do that. Yeah, there's only a couple more. Okay. Okay. Antisemitism among the urban bourgeoisie. Quote, the root of anti-semitism is found in urban bourgeoisie, Philistianism.
Starting point is 04:11:26 But the battle against anti-semitism among the bourgeoisie, it is mixed in with the question the destruction of the bourgeoisie in general. The anti-Semitism of the bourgeoisie will disappear when the bourgeoisie disappears. Lordy. Antisemitism in the countryside. Quote, we have almost completely pushed out the private trader of the peasant's grain. Therefore, among the peasant masses, anti-Semitism is not showing itself and has even weakened amongst its pre-war levels.
Starting point is 04:11:57 Now it appears only in those areas where Jews have been resettled on the land, allegedly from Koolocks and former landowners. Anti-Semitism among the working class. Anti-Semitism among the workers has grown noticeably stronger in recent years. By 1929, there could be no doubt of its existence. Now it occurs with more frequency and intensity than a few years ago. It is particularly strong among the backwards parts of the working class, women and seasonal workers.
Starting point is 04:12:26 However, an anti-Semitic mood can be observed among a broad spectrum of workers, not only among the corrupted fringe. And here, economic competition is not a factor. It arises even where there is no such competition. Jews make up only 2.7% of the working class. In the lower level professional organizations, they try to paint over anti-Semitism. Difficulties arise because attempts to hide anti-Semitism come from the active proletariat itself. Indeed, anti-Semitism originates with the active
Starting point is 04:13:01 proletariat. In many cases, party members and members of Kamsimal demonstrate anti-Semitism. Talk of Jewish dominance is particularly widespread and in meetings one hears complaints that the Soviet authority limits itself to battle with the Orthodox religion alone. Read the next paragraph because it's hilarious. What savagery? Antisemitism among the proletariat? How could this occur in the most progressive and politically aware class in the world? Laren finds that it arose because, quote, no other means remained for the white guard to influence the masses besides anti-Semitism. Its plan of action moves along the rails of anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 04:13:44 This was a theory that was to have frightening consequences. Now, that's a great place to stop. Yes. These questions are absolutely extraordinary. A very fact that they're admitting here that this Jewish party claims to be the representative of the working class historically is barely
Starting point is 04:14:05 you know they had no workers they have no connection with the workers they didn't know workers but this
Starting point is 04:14:11 this this even within you know their workers they claim to be representative
Starting point is 04:14:15 of these people but we know they're not we've talked about this going back to the revolution of 1905
Starting point is 04:14:20 um but these workers hate them and it doesn't matter backwards but I love these generalities women
Starting point is 04:14:30 in seasonal workers. I don't know what's backwards specifically about them. But no, they say it's even broader than that. Economic competition is always a terrible excuse, unless, of course, the competition is unfair. Every one of these explanations is incredibly stupid. But even in the stupidity, I mean, these people aren't stupid. Their explanations are stupid. They're struggling so hard to say anything, no matter what. to take the blame off of themselves. They're admitting a lot more than I think they realize.
Starting point is 04:15:07 But these answers to those questions, basically, I think these are summary, is absolutely extraordinary. Now, I think the equation is quoted about the army because they were already starting the political commissar thing. The political commissar was usually Jewish, not always, and he followed the officer around. No officer could possibly like that.
Starting point is 04:15:28 So I think Angie Simmons grew pretty fans. there. But these explanations, you know, remember, as I've said, Lenin said many, many times, anti-Semitism is inherently counter-revolutionary. It's inherently anti-Soviet. To be anti-Soviet, to be counter-revolutionary is to be an anti-Semite. And sometimes I wonder if Lenin really realized the implications of that statement, which he made 100 times.
Starting point is 04:16:01 and others did too less powerful than it and Schultzhenitsyn's response is pretty funny you know how could this possibly occur everything that they wanted they have you know this is supposed to be
Starting point is 04:16:15 they're building a paradise right this is they're supposed to be doing but obviously that's not the case the worst explanation though is no other means remain for the whites to influence a mess besides anti-Semitism that was it nothing else not the burning
Starting point is 04:16:31 down of churches, not the starvation, not famine. They needed to talk about Jews. Well, in all those cases, Jews do come up. But these are just, I guess for Jews or supporters at the time, liberals at the time, anywhere in the Western world, they worked so long as you didn't have to think about it too much. That was probably the majority of people. If you thought about it for more than five seconds, you realize how stupid they are. You know, when you listen to some of the modern lunatics that we've talked about today, the Randy Fines and the Mark Levins. When you read this sentence here, it says talking about anti-Semitism in the countryside. Now it appears only in those areas where Jews have been resettled on the land, allegedly land taken from Kulox and the former
Starting point is 04:17:18 owners of the land and now settled by Jews. I mean, there are people in this country who are looking around and they're going, I can't afford a house. I can't, I mean, everything seems to be falling apart around me, and we're sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Israel, and our politicians are going to conferences held by Jews and basically saying that you're, you can't, you don't care about the United States. You don't care about America unless you support Israel. You don't care about this unless you support Israel. You're not MAGA unless you support Israel.
Starting point is 04:17:58 You're not America first unless you support Israel. and then they wonder why people and then they wonder why people are like going you know asking the Jewish question that always gets asked at this point in fucking civilization in any nations in any nation that has them in it there gets to this fucking point where people go why are they dominating and why are we put on the back burner why did my family you know my family didn't come here in the 1600s but I have friends that are like look my family came here in the 1600s, you know, 150 years before this was even, you know, America. Why the fuck are these people in line in front of me? And why are all the politicians who are supposed to be serving me, don't care about me, look down upon me and call me a fucking anti-Semite if I start asking these questions? Well, I don't mind being called an anti-Semite. But for many people in the public eye, yeah.
Starting point is 04:19:00 they can't be they can't afford um i never thought i lived to see the day that ordinary people would be asking questions like this um let alone people of of influence asking questions like this um Netanyahu uh is is probably the the one of the causes um he's created intersemites all over the planet but um that has bled over into other things economics um and looking at you know people like fine now what conference was that you told me about that what's the name of the conference oh the um the jewish the jewish conservative i have to look it up okay yeah so is it basically a jewish conservative uh conference and yeah it's like jewish republican jewish republican coalition yeah jewish republican coalition it was in it was in las vegas
Starting point is 04:19:59 hilariously. Yeah, right. Well, Bugsie Siegel. The point being, of course, they're trying to come up with solutions, damage control. But talking like fine. No, I've heard fine say crazy things before.
Starting point is 04:20:18 But this is something else. He was losing it. There's panic. There's tremendous panic. It's not like they can run to Israel now. That would be a rough, rough thing. Dubai is too expensive for even a congressman, maybe. They're struggling.
Starting point is 04:20:39 And now what they might do in retaliation, that's a separate issue. And that could go in any direction. But Candice Owens, I can't believe it. She's talking about it every day. And that little midget demon, what's his face? Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro Jordan Peterson
Starting point is 04:21:00 are being raked over the coals by ordinary mainline conservatives like her we're living in wonderful times remember
Starting point is 04:21:13 the Soviet Union collapsed almost overnight in peacetime no war going on it just imploded no one predicted that or, you know, no one in power predicted that.
Starting point is 04:21:30 A few years earlier, a few months earlier, no one, everyone thought it was, you know, going to reform and stay there forever. And it felt the pieces. Things can change rapidly. And all our listeners need to keep that very much in mind. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 04:21:49 Please go to the show notes and go to the descriptions and the videos and donate to Dr. Johnson's work. I hope you're getting a lot out of these last couple episodes because these last couple episodes are really starting to paint the picture of, you know, when we talk about how, yeah, the Bolsheviks were not all Jews, but they had overwhelming influence and leadership positions. And when people tell you they don't, here's the evidence they do, they did, with names, with people, with Jews who are writing articles about why is everybody so anti-Semitic. Oh, because so many of these people are Jewish and everyone's noticing. So they're lying to you, whether they're lying to you on purpose or they just don't, out of ignorance. I tend to like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But, you know, it's sometimes it gets so ridiculous. You just have to believe that they're just lying because, you know, you see that a lot.
Starting point is 04:22:48 Special pleading. Yeah, yeah. All right, Dr. Johnson. Talk to you in a few days. Thank you. All right, my friend. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. This is episode 86. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today?
Starting point is 04:23:09 I feel like I'm 86. No, I took a turn slightly for the worse. But, you know, I have a habit. Whenever I get sick, even if it's mild, I tend to either watch or read things repetitively. usually quite random things and this time it was the um rhodesian bush war so if i say anything weird it's it's from that you know it's a long way to nook and boar or anything like that that's that's where it's from uh when i had covid it was it was more extreme because i was totally out of it for a while but in the beginning but um but for some reason i latch on to something what i don't feel
Starting point is 04:23:50 well, and it becomes a comfort video. In this case, it's been combat footage, well, two things. Combat footage in the, right, in Rhodesian Bush War, as well as the crisis in the Congo, specifically when, you know, the white mercenaries from South Africa and elsewhere, Congo Mueller and all those people. So I've been having a blast with this. Of course, then I have to read about it and I have to come to understand what happens there. So it's not like it's been a waste of time.
Starting point is 04:24:18 I have a book that is this close from being finished And I was able to work a bit last night on it It's almost it's almost I have to pick out a cover essentially at this point On the Russo-Ukrainian War of 2022 It needs to be done God knows what the regime is putting out the crap they're putting out In the double day in the big university publications Publishing Houses these days
Starting point is 04:24:46 So I'm extremely proud of it. I never, I never slaved over a book so much, ever as over this. Obsessing over every term. I'm going nuts in my old age. So, but in this case, I think it's a good thing. It's a good nuts, not a bad nuts. When you were saying, you could just blurt something out, it reminded me that Seinfeld episode where, um, Seinfeld, when Kramer got kicked in the head and he was just, he was like, he like, yo, yeah, ma. And they're like, it's just like, yeah you know when i was from new jersey you know hey they didn't have accents you guys have accents but it was funny i don't care there was all kinds of symbolism and i i don't care it was
Starting point is 04:25:30 genuinely funny yeah and and it would have been terrible if they would have turned out in the last episode to be heroes but no they were presented as the pieces of shit that the pieces of shit that they actually were that's right yeah that's right um but But the premise of Seinfeld, it wasn't a show about nothing. It was a show about all the unwritten rules of human conduct that we really don't think about. Like how many dates do you have to go on for an in-person breakup? Or how close do you have to stand to someone to speak to that kind of thing? You don't really even think about them.
Starting point is 04:26:07 But that was Jerry Seinfeld's comedy. And that's what made it some interesting to me. All right. Let's get cracking. picking up where we left off last time. Lauren's views on the anti-Semitism of the time were to find echoes later in other authors. S. Schwartz provides his own variant on anti-Semitism as being the result of a vulgar perception of Jews as the main carriers of the new economic policy. But he agrees. The Soviet government, not without basis, saw an anti-Semitism a possible tool of the counter-revolution.
Starting point is 04:26:45 in 1968 the author adds quote after the civil war anti-semitism began to spread gripping layers of society which were free of this tendency before the revolution now that we've we've been over this before uh he's referring of course to solomon schwartz who in 1968 was was um was out left the soviet union um i love how he said you know, not without bases. In other words, you know, they're not just making this stuff up. But I think the reason he left, I mean, he was such a fanatic, that he wanted something, you know, something banning anti-Semitism in the Constitution. And he didn't get it.
Starting point is 04:27:40 There were things, you know, I think intimidations of like that, equality of other different peoples of the U.S. stuff like that, but not specifically about Jews, and that outraged him. And then he just went on to exaggerate. Everything was a pogrom to him. And he was just used as one of the words, but he was there through the beginning. So he has some value, but he is a wild exaggerator, which, of course, the Jews are not known for. I specifically like that it says that anti-Semitism didn't exist in society before the revolution, which completely contradicts other Jewish writers.
Starting point is 04:28:27 Yeah, yeah. And, you know, the whole thing comes down to Jews being incapable of seeing their own behavior, especially in the punitive organs of the point. party, you know, the Czech, et cetera, how that could possibly have turned people against them. Their names everywhere, not just in Soviet Union, but in Eastern Europe after the war, too. You know, their names were everywhere. Not everyone changed their names.
Starting point is 04:29:00 And they still, it doesn't, it doesn't connect. That's why I try and argue with them when Willis Cardo used to last. about this all the time trying to argue with them is it simply impossible. They just go around in circles and they go back to, they either start screaming or they go right back to the beginning again. That's what he used to say, and it's true. Against this, it was necessary to engage not an academic discussion, but to act energetically and forcefully. In May 1928, the CK of the VKPB issued an adjutop communication about, quote, measures to be taken in the battle with anti-Semitism, end quote. as was often the case in implementation of party directives related documents were not publicized but circulated among party organizations the battle to create an atmosphere of intolerance of anti-semitism was to be taken up in educational programs public reports lectures the press radio and school textbooks and finally authorities were quote to apply the strictest disciplinary measures to those found guilty of any anti-semitic practices end quote
Starting point is 04:30:07 Sharp newspaper articles followed. In Pravda's article by a highly connected Lev Sasnovsky, he incriminates all kinds of party and educational officials in anti-Semitism. An official in Kiev openly fires Jews with the connivance of the local district party committee, defamatory anti-Jewish graffiti is widespread, etc. From a newspaper article, quote, without the growing battle against anti-Semitism, there are demands to solve the problem by increasing repression on those carriers of anti-Semitism and those and on those who protect them, end quote. Clearly it was GPU speaking through the language of a newspaper article.
Starting point is 04:30:54 I don't know what he means by openly fires Jews. Was he saying that they should be unfairable? Again, you know, I feel like I'm saying the same things over and over again, although this has been repetitive. so far, but for those maybe who've just joined us, I don't know, Lenin over and over again said that to be anti-Semitic is to be anti-Soviet, to be counter-revolutionary, is to be anti-Semitic and vice versa. He said it over and over again, which was a strange admission, the fact that the Jews did dominate the party, and especially the organs of propaganda and, and police, you know, this kind of thing, which they were very, very good at.
Starting point is 04:31:44 They made so many enemies, and instead of being able to look at themselves, they'd simply kill more people or throw more people in prison. After Laren's report, the issue of anti-Semitism was included into various educational curricula, while Laren himself continued to research the ways to overcome anti-Semitism decisively. Quote, until now we were too soft, allowing propaganda to spread. Locally, officials often do not deal with anti-Semitism as rigorously as they should. Newspapers should not fear to point attention to the Jewish issue to avoid dissemination of anti-Semitism, as it only interferes with the fight against counter-revolutionary sabotage.
Starting point is 04:32:28 Antisemitism is a social pathology like alcoholism or vagrancy. too often when dealing with communists we let them off with mere censure if a person goes to church and gets married then we exclude him without discussion anti-semitism is no less evil yeah that last sentence is interesting hmm um
Starting point is 04:32:50 sometimes uh what he I think he means in the middle part of this is that newspapers didn't want to mention it at all didn't want to give it any kind of coverage but the definition of anti-Semitism Got so low like it is now. It's so loose that someone gets picked on at work.
Starting point is 04:33:10 You know, someone gets into an argument with a Jew. That was a pogrom. And if you read people like Solomon, we've talked about, he exaggerates that into an anti-Semitic act. And it gets included. The fact that it was within the party, back when I first read this I was a little surprised and I think as I've said before
Starting point is 04:33:39 if you had actual committed Marxists here Gentiles who believed in some version of equality however they interpreted it they see the Jews as a cast with far more power than they deserve that be able to keep their wealth you'll know about Trotsky's millions
Starting point is 04:34:05 stuff like this then okay well shouldn't be shouldn't the revolution be taken against them even in the late 19th century you had you had revolutionary groups who were condemning Jewish power because they had so much capital
Starting point is 04:34:20 this is why in Central going back to the early Middle Ages I mean there are church canons let's say that jews are not permitted to um higher christian servants if you want to talk about exploitation they can get away with it they're going to get away with it and what exploitation means here i'll leave to the you know listeners imagination so um no doubt it was growing in the party too as the ussr this is uh continuing this is all quotes um quoting from lauren's paper As the USSR develops towards socialism, the prognosis is good that Soviet anti-Semitism and the legacy of pre-Soviet relationships will be torn out by the roots.
Starting point is 04:35:09 Nevertheless, it is absolutely necessary to impose severe controls on intellectual anti-Semitism, especially in the teaching profession and civil service. So in other words, anyone who can make a historic argument or make an argument from pure logic and not low IQ. Yeah, that's the worst. Yeah, that's exactly what they worry about. They fear exposure. There's something misfiring in their brains, but at some level, they realize that if the veil is lifted, they're in serious trouble, even from their own friends, even from their own party members, comrades, so to speak. But the very spirit of the brave 20s demands stronger language. The nature of modern day anti-Jewish agitation in the USSR is political and not nationalistic.
Starting point is 04:35:57 agitation against the Jews is directed not just against Jews, but indirectly against the Soviet power, or maybe not so indirect. Quote, anti-Semitism is a means of mobilization against Soviet power, and those against the position of Soviet authorities on the Jewish question are against the working class and for the capitalists. Any talk of Jewish dominance will be regarded as counter-revolutionary activity against the very foundation of the national policy of the proletarian revolution. Parts of the intelligentsia and sometimes the white guards are using anti-Semitism to transmit bourgeois ideology.
Starting point is 04:36:39 I have, you know, I've said it all before at this point. I think the listener, even with basic common sense, knows how absurd this is. You know, the basically right here, he's just saying that, yeah, this is a Jewish movement. Right. And there's this, there's this Michelin going around named Richard Poe who wrote a book that all of the, all of the people who don't want to be seen as mean, or interviewing him and quoting. He wrote a book saying that MI6, like British intelligence, created communism and then blamed it on the Jews. Yeah, he doesn't seem very bright.
Starting point is 04:37:25 I thought I thought you're going to say the Jesuits at some point, you know. I get this book thrown in my face all the time, and here is a Jew writing in the 20, you know, is he writing in the 20s here? I think, I believe he is, who's saying, yeah, this was all Jewish, and if you speak against Soviet power, it's anti-Semitism. Yeah, and he's following Lenin in that regard. He's following Trotsky in that regard. they all mentioned it. Well, maybe Trotsky and Lenin were working for British intelligence. They must have been.
Starting point is 04:38:00 Or the Jesuits. Well, it's always, it's always Rome. Everything goes back to Rome now. Come on. We know. Yes, that's it. A white guard whispering campaign, clearly there is planned agitation by secret white white guard organizations.
Starting point is 04:38:18 Behind the Philistine anti-Jewish agitation, secret monarchist organizations are leading a battle against Soviet power. And from the central organs of anti-Soviet emigration, including Jewish bankers and Tsarist generals, an ideology is transmitted right into our factories, proving that anti-Jewish agitation in the USSR is class-based, not nationality-based. It is necessary to explain to the masses that encouragement of anti-Jewish feelings in essence is an attempt to lay the groundwork for counter-revolution. The masses must regard anyone who shows sympathy to anti-Semitism as a a secret counter-revolutionary or the mouthpiece of a secret monarchist organization. There are conspiracies everywhere.
Starting point is 04:39:02 That's from, that's from Soljanese and himself. That's right. Quote, the term anti-Semit must take on the same meaning in the public mind as the term counter-revolutionary. I just wonder if they, is this a form of confession? Or do they not realize what they're saying? saying here? Because they're coming out and saying that this is a Jewish movement. Especially when you have alleged anti-Semitism within the party.
Starting point is 04:39:41 However, I will say that the exile organizations knew this very well. They knew it from the beginning, and they continue to, you know, lecture and talk about this stuff, well, right up to the present day that, yeah, there's, there's both a class and a nationality issue going on as far as the Jews are concerned. Masons are concerned. They're always quick to point out. You cannot entirely point to the Jews. That's, that's ridiculous. That's a historical, this anti-intellect. That's false. However, their role in these punitive organs, especially in the 20s and 30s, was so overwhelming that they made more enemies than, than you can imagine.
Starting point is 04:40:29 So anyone fleeing, able to flee the country, knew what was going on, and Sultan Eastern was one. Yeah, just to, well, now, all of this is coming from the article written by, what's his name, Lauren, and it was written in 1928, it's in 1928 in Pravda, just for, because I mentioned it before. All right. Yeah, yeah, and this is, and this, that means it's official doctrine, but it's come from the very top for, for quite a while. Well, and also anyone who says that, you know, British intelligence is responsible for
Starting point is 04:41:12 communism, that means that the Jews who are here bragging about the fact that, you know, they, anything against a revolution is against Jews. That means that they're pretty low IQ if they've been tricked by British intelligence. So you either have to give up, you know, inventing communism or the whole high IQ
Starting point is 04:41:32 myth. Just pick one, whichever one you won't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not this guy, let's not give this guy anymore airtime. Okay, okay. The authorities had seen through everything and named everything for what it was.
Starting point is 04:41:48 counter-revolution, white guards, monarchists, white generals, and, quote, anyone suspected of being any of the above. For the thick-headed, the revolutionary order elaborates, quote, the methods of fighting anti-Semitism are clear, at a minimum to conduct open investigations in sessions of people's tribunal against anti-Semitism at local levels under the motto explanations for the backward workers and repressions for the malicious. There is no reason and why Lenin's decree should not apply. Now, I think here we get into, now I have a paper on this.
Starting point is 04:42:24 I would have sent it to you. I will send it to you to put along with this. You can make like a workbook that goes with these lectures on Lenin's decrees and laws concerning anti-Semitism, and he starts now from July 27th, 1918. Under Lenin's decree, that from July 27, 1918, active anti-Semites were to be placed outside of the law. That is, to be shot even for agitating for a pogrom,
Starting point is 04:42:52 not just for participating in one. The law encouraged each Jew to register a complaint about any ethic insult visited upon him. Oh, that's wonderful. That's not going to be used as a weapon at all. That wasn't used as a weapon at all. Yeah. My Lord. That's not even in the decree.
Starting point is 04:43:15 decree. I read Lenin's decrees. That was just added later as time went on, but I also want to point out for those who still hold to the Stalin myth that he was, no, he, he, he maintained and enforced these laws with the same level of violence as, as Lenin did. Don't be fooled by that. Now, some later author will object that the 27, July 27 Act was ultimately not included in the law and was not part of the Criminal Code of 1922. Though the Criminal Code of 1926 did include an article about the, quote, the instigation of ethnic hostility and dissension, there were no specific articles about acts of anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 04:43:59 This is not convincing. Article 59-7 of the Criminal Code, propaganda or agitation intended to incite national or religious hatred or dissension, was sufficient to send one to prison, and the article provided for confiscation of the proper. of perpetrators of widespread disturbances and under aggravated circumstances, for instance, class origin, death. Article 59-7 was based on the RSFSR Penal Code of February 26, 1927, which widened the definition of instigation of national hatred, making it equal in seriousness
Starting point is 04:44:39 to dissemination or preparation of storing and storing of literal. I don't know why anyone would make that argument to begin with. Consider it like an executive order in the U.S. It didn't necessarily have to be part of the criminal code. Lennon said it. Lennon wrote it and it was no doubt it was carried out. So whether or not it was part of anything, it stood by itself as a command. There was no question about it. And this is just horrible, Marxism. Marxism, under true Marxism, no one's going to care about anti-Semitism. When you're thinking about Marx, I mean, look at what Marx wrote.
Starting point is 04:45:27 I mean, this is just, could it be any more obvious that this is just an ethnic movement? Well, I tell you what Marx wrote later in his career, along with Engels. that no revolutionary movement can win until the Tsarist system is destroyed, and that there is something in the East Slavic blood that creates counter-revolutionaries. They have to be destroyed, which is why Marx was a big fan of the Crimean War on the European side, fought all the anti-war demonstrations, including socialist ones. you know, it always had a strong Jewish tint to it. And we discussed a long time ago of all these leftists,
Starting point is 04:46:19 every Prudhon and Bakunin, the founders of the anarchist movement, who all said the same thing. They all knew what the Jew was. And that Marx became the dominant revolutionary because he was financed by the Rothschild family, according to Bakunin's account. And because of that, he got kicked out of the first international.
Starting point is 04:46:42 The Rothschild, too, despised Russia, and not just the government, but the people. And Russia, as a nation, suffered incredibly under Marxist rule. It just doesn't seem to have anything to do with dialectical materialism at all. Not when you understand, like, that labor, you know, basically man is reduced to pure labor. Well, you know, I have a book on a subject. I have a book on the Soviet experiment. And in the introduction, I have a list of arguments I'm going to make. And one of them is that this movement, wherever it's taken power, never gives a damn about labor.
Starting point is 04:47:28 It does not concern labor. Labor was mercilessly exploited throughout the existence of the USSR. are. It was certainly about power. It's no accident that Karl Marx was a Jew, although we talked about the Udayan Fragha, the Jewish question article. He understood, but that didn't change anything. That was very early in his career. His early poetry, too, when he was a young man, was just apocalyptic. The end of the world is coming, and we're going to be the agents of it. that he had some Luciferian bent, just like Bakunin did, actually. Dialectical materialism, you know, I had, I've written on it.
Starting point is 04:48:18 I had to read it in grad school until it was coming out my ears. I understand it. Yeah, and I say in this book, too, I say, you know, why would the Soviets even bother? You had working socialist institutions in Russia. They just weren't materialists. They were, you know, the peasant commune, the Artels, Brotherhood of the Holy Cross, a bunch of other things, the very communal group of people. And they worked. These were the first things to be destroyed and to be replaced by a mocking, almost a mocking counterfeit.
Starting point is 04:48:53 So the mirror was replaced by a collective farm, which never worked. You know, so they would go out of their way to destroy actual socialist institutions. Why attack the church at all? The only reason the church went after the communists is that they attacked the church in the first place. You know, that's the Jewish side of things. That's what made it, you know, alerted people. There's something more going on here.
Starting point is 04:49:19 They wasted all their, and they made a lot of enemies. Why would they do that? Unless there was just this deep hatred for Christ's Christianity. And specifically, Russia, which Karl Marx promoted, even in his later lifetime. Storing books. How familiar is that prescription contained in the related law 58-10? Many brochures on anti-Semitism were published, and finally, February 19, 1929, Providde devoted its lead article to the matter. Quote, attention to the battle with anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 04:49:55 A 1929 revolution of C.K. of Communist Party of Bailorussia stated that, quote, quote, counter-revolutionary nature of anti-Semitic incidents is often ignored, end quote, and that organs of justice should, quote, intensify the fight, prosecuting both perpetrators of the law and those who inspire them, end quote. The Secretary of the C.K. of K. of Komsomal said, quote, most dangerous in our condition are secret anti-Semites who hide their anti-Semitic attitudes. end quote so you don't even anyone is an anti-seman anyone could possibly be an answer oh you're an anti-Semite no I'm not oh you're just hiding it that's like that's like subconscious racism
Starting point is 04:50:42 yeah well you know um Pinsker and lately Josh Hammer said it's in the European DNA which Russians aren't I heard that which Russians aren't Europeans so um those who are familiar with Soviet language understand it is necessary to cut off suspected ways of thinking. This recalls Gregory Landau, speaking of Jewish opponents, quote, they suspect or accuse other groups around them of anti-Semitism. Anyone who voices a negative opinion about Jews is accused of being an open anti-Semite, and others are called secret anti-Semites, end quote. Now that is one hell of a statement. We should all put that to memory.
Starting point is 04:51:27 I mean, this is now getting down to negative opinions, glances. They can't even be fired, as we already saw. That's open anti-Semitism. And people like Solomon would say that these are, if not pogromes, they're the incitement of a pogrom. That's how extreme they had to go. They were searching for antisemitism.
Starting point is 04:51:54 And they were all secret royalists and black hundred clergy or capitalists, which, you know, those two don't go together. But, and it was just a matter of applying labels to people rather than actually knowing anything about people. In 1929, a certain I Zilberman in daily Soviet jurisprudence, number four, writes that there were two few court trials relating to anti-Semitism in Moscow province. In the city of Moscow alone, for the year, there were only 34 cases. That is, every 10 days, there was a trial for anti-Semitism somewhere in Moscow. The Journal of Narcomust was read as an instruction manual for bringing such cases. Well, oftentimes, as we know, that these cases didn't go to court that were dealt with on the spot, especially when you had plenty of peasant uprisings and things like that.
Starting point is 04:52:51 now I haven't read there have been a few the peasant uprising is going on everywhere this time remember and you know the party was always under siege in different
Starting point is 04:53:03 parts of the of the USSR the peasantry was at war with them and I've read so many of their manifestos and sometimes I bring it up sometimes they don't but yeah that they put Jews in charge of our
Starting point is 04:53:19 farming and of course we're not allowed to farm anymore you know, the beginning of collectivization was getting started and they just couldn't carry it out necessarily, you know, with war going on, well, low-level war going on, I should say. But remember, it was constant. And I guarantee, now the claim made in this book so far is that Russian peasants far away from Ukraine, so, you know, south central, even to the east of up to the Euro Mountains. didn't really know that many Jews. That might be true. But they knew a lot of Jews now.
Starting point is 04:54:00 And it was never a good mix. And it got infinitely worse when they were put in charge of collectivizing their agriculture, which led to even more starvation. I mean, it's hard to think of it even as just mismanagement that there was some purpose to this, especially when the West was feeding them
Starting point is 04:54:21 anyway, they were getting food aid all over the place. They were getting investment from all over the place. You know, this whole thing, this whole situation makes a mockery of Marxism. The capitalist powers are supposed to be violently opposed to the USSR, and they were anything but, as we all know. Could the most evil anti-Semite have thought up a better way to identify Jews with Soviet power and the opinion of the people? It went so far that in 1930, the Supreme Court of RSFSR ruled that Article 597,
Starting point is 04:54:56 quote, should not be used by members of national minorities seeking redress in conflicts of a personal nature. In other words, a judicial juggernaut had already been wound up and was running at full speed. If we look at life of, you got something? no i i i not anymore i i i just i've you know i i've i've said it all at this point so let's keep going if we look at life at the life of the regular not commanding jewish folk we see desolation and despair in formerly vibrant and thriving stettles jewish tribune reproduced report by a special official who inspected towns and stettles in the southwest of russia in in 1923, indicating that as the most active inhabitants moved into cities, the remaining
Starting point is 04:55:49 population of elders and families with many children lived to large extent by relying on humanitarian and financial aid from America. I think there's some truth to that. Remember, the Jewish population was continuously growing. And we talked about before in the previous Jewish system, the Kahal, there was always, you know, poor levels, poor Jews, poor Jewish families that were held together and kept loyal by the only mythology, that if you leave here, they're going to kill you because Gentiles are animals and all that stuff. But at this point, I think, well, 23 is early.
Starting point is 04:56:36 I think a lot more of these people, the Shettles is a Jewish town or a town that's mostly Jewish. But, yeah, elders, too, you know, your most active being your, you know, middle-aged guys, younger guys, whether it be a military, all of a sudden, they want to fight, you know, military service and everything in the bureaucracy, leaving everyone else behind. And Jewish organization in which there were thousands in America, Great Britain, elsewhere, were, you know, all aid was pouring in from all over the place. It was such a disaster economically. Didn't have to be that way. But these revolutionaries had no idea how to run an economy. Indeed, by the end of the period of war communism, 1918 through 1920, when all trade or any buying or selling were prohibited under threat of property, confiscation, and fines, the Jews were helped by Jewish charities like Joint through the all-Russian public committee for assistance to victims of pogroms and destitute Jews. Several other charities protected the Jewish population later at different times, such as the SC, Society of Craftsman, which after the Revolution moved abroad, E.K.O. PO, the Jewish Committee for Assistance to Victims of War, and E.K.O., the Jewish Colonizing Society. What does that mean?
Starting point is 04:58:03 I can't answer you. I haven't come across that unless that's a Zionist organization. In 1921 through 22, Soviet-based Jewish charities functioned in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Despite intervention and obstacles from YevSex, Jewish communist organizations, quote, Joint provided Soviet Jews with extensive financial and other assistance, whereas SC, quote, was dedicated to establishment and development of Jewish industry and agriculture in the south of Ukraine during first half of 19. I'm not going to say that there weren't actual victims. There were plenty of Jewish victims here. They were usually indirect.
Starting point is 04:58:49 But, you know, this was also a period of time where, yeah, you had, you know, allegedly a religious-based charity. There were no, you know, Orthodox charity for being shut down all over the place. Not Jewish ones. The first Soviet census provides insight into Jewish life during the liberalized NEP period. 40% of Jews were classified as active, not dependents. Of those, 28% were public servants, 21% craftsmen, 19% industrial workers, including apprentices, 12% merchants, 9% peasants, 1% military men, and 10% were classified as others. Among public servants, Jews were well represented in,
Starting point is 04:59:36 in trade-related occupations. For instance, in Moscow business organizations, 16% of the clerks were Jews, in credit and trade organizations, 13%, 30% according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. In public organizations, 19% in fiscal organizations, 9% in Sovdeb's 10%,
Starting point is 04:59:57 with virtually no presence in police force. The percentages were correspondingly higher in the former pale of settlement areas, up to 62% in the state trade of Bailorussia, 44% in Ukraine, 77% in category of private state servants. The flow of Jewish workers into industry was much slower than government wished. There were almost no Jews among railroad men and minors. They rather preferred the professions of Taylor, Tanner, topographer, woodworker,
Starting point is 05:00:29 and food-related specialties and other fields of consumer industry. To recruit Jewish workers into industry, history, special professional schools were created with predominantly foreign funding from Jewish organizations abroad. Now, we've been through this already. In the Tsarist era, in the late Zaris era, the Zara, the Zara census, you know, had numbers somewhat like this. And you can't take them seriously because they were simply not telling the truth about
Starting point is 05:01:01 what they did. they were they were smugglers you know they lived on passive income so to speak they would claim that they were these things to get various subsidies and stuff like that remember a few months ago we were talking about this at great length and I don't know if this is out of habit or what but so always treat these numbers with a little bit of a grain of salt yes this is true
Starting point is 05:01:35 with the early Soviet government they didn't know if it was going to last or not it was heavily Jewish in composition but they're also very careful and of course as time went on it changed completely but early on you know I remember this is in
Starting point is 05:01:54 this is a chaos this is a civil war was barely over and you had low level battles going on all the time Jews were very worried about being exposed as as rulers here. You know, we talked about the Solzhenitsyn talks about the fraud. All these Jews claiming to be carpenters and stuff like that,
Starting point is 05:02:15 and they weren't. You know, they were traders. And I don't know what this 10% others meant means. But, you know, I, it might be, these numbers might be useful. But, you know, I just have a little, I'd be very critical in ever using these numbers, like in a paper or something like that. It was the time of NEP, which improved economic conditions of Jewish population within a new Soviet framework. In 1924, Moscow, 75% of the perfume and pharmaceutical trade was in Jewish hands, as well as 55% of the manufactured goods trade. 49% of the jewelry trade,
Starting point is 05:03:03 39% of the small wear trade, and 36% of the wood depots. Starting business in a new place, a Jew usually run down prices in private sector to attract client's hell. Sombart talks about that at length in his book. Precisely. Precisely, yep.
Starting point is 05:03:22 The first and most prominent NEP men often were Jews. To a large extent, anger against them stemmed from the fact that they utilized the Soviet as well as the market systems. Their commerce was routinely facilitated by their links and poles in the Soviet apparatus. Sometimes such connections were exposed by authorities, as in the case of the famous paraffin affair, 1992. During the 1920s, there were abundant opportunities to buy up belongings of oppressed and persecuted former people, especially high quality or rare furniture. S. Ettinger noted that the Jews made a majority of NEP men and new riches, which was supported by impressive list of individuals who failed to pay state taxes and dues in Izvestia in 1929.
Starting point is 05:04:17 Yeah, even, yeah, I like this line about former people. We know exactly what they're talking about. this is again right just after after the war and the Civil War I'm talking about so many of these other guys had been killed have been driven from the country been driven from the area and Jews had no problem their pogroms were severe
Starting point is 05:04:41 and state run and moving into their homes in Moscow and the fact that he says abundant opportunities to buy up belongings of oppressed and persecuted former people, people who were made outlaws outside the law. We talked about that already.
Starting point is 05:05:02 That would include clergy, overt supporters of the white movement, certainly royalists, anyone like that, anti-Semites, you know, high-quality refer, whatever it is. There was many more things than that. but the NEP was massively a Jewish affair and even there, even in a government where they kind of saw themselves
Starting point is 05:05:32 well represented, they still didn't pay tax. That's old habits, you know? However, at the end of NEP, authorities launched an anti-capitalist assault against financiers, merchants and manufacturers, many of whom were Jewish. As a result, many Jews turned into Soviet trade servants and continued working in the same spheres of finance, credit.
Starting point is 05:05:58 You mean they weren't taken out and shot? They didn't have their money confiscated either. A steamroller of merchandise and property confiscations, outright state robbery and social ostracizing, outclassing people into disenfranchised Lishanets category, was advancing on private commerce. Quote, some Jewish merchants attempting to avoid discriminating and endlessly increasing taxation,
Starting point is 05:06:27 declared themselves as having no occupation during the census. Nevertheless, virtually the entire Jewish male population in towns and stettles passed through the torture chambers of GPU during the campaign of gold and jewelry extortion in the beginning of the 1930s. Such things would be regarded as an impossible nightmare and Tsar's Russia. Many Jewish families to avoid the stigma of being Lishinitz moved into large
Starting point is 05:06:53 cities. In the end, only one-fifths of Soviet Jews lived in the traditional Jewish settlements by the 1930s. So he's making one very clear point here. Here we go again with the line to the census. That was like a profession and of itself in the Jewish world. So many wealthy Jews, again, we talked about the gold mine, we talked about the silver millionaires, silver sugar millionaires in Ukraine who were Jewish, some of them. Well, they didn't, you know, they didn't go to camps.
Starting point is 05:07:32 They were simply brought into the state apparatus having roughly the same job. That didn't happen all the time. But, you know, they also were a bit worried. There were, taxes were very, very high. They weren't going to pay it. I have the feeling a few of them got slaps on the wrists. A few of them got worse than that.
Starting point is 05:07:56 But they simply went from a private trader to a state trader or something in EO bureaucracy having to do with credit and trade or anything else. At a fairly low level, because we've already talked about the leaders of those bureaucracies coming doing anything you know going from one place to another um you know these people um these people did not do all that badly um and but again remember we're at a period of time where no one was sure if this government was going to last uh it was very it seemed very fragile at the time and it was with uprisings all over the place um although trade was you know back and forth with with the west even this didn't didn't affect
Starting point is 05:08:49 anything um you know putins had had uh restrictions on him practically since he was born and uh and these people they could slaughter whoever they want and it and it doesn't bother anybody um but um they they simply traded their their private sector stuff for or something along the lines of a public sector version. I don't know if they made the same amount of money or more money. They could charge rents. I don't know. I don't know to that great detail at this point,
Starting point is 05:09:26 but that's the point he's making here. Socioeconomic experiments by the Soviet authorities, including all kinds of nationalization and socialization, and not only devastated the middle classes, but also hit badly the small merchants and craftsmen. Due to general lack of merchandise and solvent customers, as well as low liquidity and exorbitant taxes, many settled merchants had no other choice but to close down their shops. And while the most active left for cities, the remaining populace had nothing else to do but aimlessly roamed decrepit streets, loudly complaining about their fate, people, and God. That reminds me of Schmooley that that that character.
Starting point is 05:10:11 caricature, saying that on Yom Kippur, as we repent of our sins against God, will God repent of his sins against us? Right. Right. Well, we know what the Talmud says that God reads the Talmud standing. In other words, it is superior to him. How are they defined God anymore? It is apparent that Jewish masses have completely lost their economic foundations.
Starting point is 05:10:41 It was really like that in many shuttles at that time. To address the problem, even special resolution of Sov Narcum was issued in 1929. Well, you got to keep in mind here, this was a time of severe upheaval. Everybody was like this. There was no group within the boundaries of the USSR that wasn't feeling this. They had gone from, you know, a very strict war communism to NEP and back to the Soviet system again with this great rapidity. What are they going to do next, you know? And this was while they're continuing to fight, blaming, you know, fate, you know, fate people in God for the peasant uprisings, many of whom blame the Jews for their situation that were right in many cases.
Starting point is 05:11:39 Um, food was very expensive for this reason. Something tells me that party members weren't, weren't paying a whole lot, but, but many other people were. Um, so this is a time, it's going to stabilize, but this is a time of upheaval for everybody. And of course, all the Jews can think about is themselves. Why don't we, uh, why don't we stop there? Yeah, I was going to say he's going to get into, like some outside, um, people looking at it from the outside and saying, what they're giving their opinion. So this is a good place to stop.
Starting point is 05:12:14 Yeah. This has been great. I need to look up. I forgot all about the paraffin affair. I'm embarrassed to say. I don't know what that is. I'm going to find out. We're going to talk about it a little bit next time.
Starting point is 05:12:28 I look forward to that. Yeah, I was wondering about that too because I've never heard of that either. So, all right. Go over to Dr. Johnson's. go over to the show notes go over to the description please donate to dr johnson um i was actually at an event this weekend and there were a couple people who said that they felt really bad that they hadn't donated to you yet because they're getting so much out of this but to expect those donations forthcoming so um people are seeing the wonderful people yeah yeah people are seeing the value in
Starting point is 05:12:59 this and um you know they will uh they will show their thanks and we appreciate them i i most certainly do all right talk to you in a couple days thank you dr johnson all right my friend bye i want to welcome everyone back to our reading of alexander solzhenyson's 200 years together this is episode 87 dr johnson how are you this fine afternoon well i don't know i got some bad news from the surgeon as far as marcel goes the tumor are so big that if he took it out, you would have to take the entire lower jaw out. Well, I can't pitch.
Starting point is 05:13:44 How do you be a cat without a lower jaw? Whether it's cancerous or not is irrelevant. His blood work is perfect. He's happy. He's eating. He's running around. I mean, he's his old self. But it's also very slow growing.
Starting point is 05:14:04 I'm just kind of getting used to it. We have some pain medication for when he eats. You know, it just makes eating easier for him. But he's not in pain as a matter of course. So I visited him this morning and the surgeon went, you know, this surgery would be so aggressive. Dogs do better with it than cats do. A lot of cats just shut down, stop eating. I don't know how they could be, you know, the entire, not just a piece of it.
Starting point is 05:14:36 The entire lower jaw, I said, no. There's no way we're doing that. And so how long it takes, I don't know. He wasn't sure. But in the meantime, he gets more attention than any cat I've ever known. And he's extremely happy. So, you know, his blood work is perfect. In other words, everything is fine until, I guess, at some point, it won't be.
Starting point is 05:15:06 So that's Stanley's brother Who used to You know And they have sibling rivalries They still you know Scruff each other get out of the way Kind of thing So
Starting point is 05:15:22 So that that sucks It really does He's 10 and a half And he's been with me for a long thing He's a very very good boy Beyond that Now remember I promised everybody, I would look up the paraffin affair, which we didn't know. There's
Starting point is 05:15:45 probably a good reason we didn't know it. It's really the kerosene affair. I thought it had something to do with candles. But no, no, this is one of the reasons the new economic policy was shut down. I finally found a Russian source that deals with it. Every name is Jewish. You see, private entrepreneurs, they didn't have legal access to resources. I mean, this wasn't, yeah, they were allowed a certain freedom of trade, but that was pretty much it as far as contract law goes. So they became agents of the state in possession of scarce materials.
Starting point is 05:16:27 They sold goods belonging to one Soviet organization to another one, infighting the price as they went. the prophets were then shared with the state officials who then and I'm reading about this and of course you know the high profits would be hidden with these numerous sales in the paraffin case tried in 1922
Starting point is 05:16:51 and Levin Rivosh Kaikin Abramov every one Jew Now, there was a shortage of kerosene, which was a staple good, and they had illegally purchased it abroad.
Starting point is 05:17:12 We talked about their Jewish interest in smuggling, and they simply moved it from place to place where there was very high demand. They all knew each other, of course, at increasingly inflated prices. The final price was 2.3 million rubles per pood. A pood back then was like 37 pounds. And they agreed to divide the profits among them. Actually, no, it was it was three million was the final price. And they were taken to court by the state and people got convicted. But it gave, and it was Jewish.
Starting point is 05:18:03 And this, we talked about the anti-semitism coming from the party. Well, here we go. You know, the NEP lasted, what, two and a half years, barely. And the people who benefited were Jews up and down wherever you went. Soviet propaganda at the time, because they were going to phase it out because of this stuff. and the paraffin affair was just one of them. Remember, there was a huge shortage of this stuff. People needed it.
Starting point is 05:18:33 The propaganda really made them out to look, you know, your typical NEP, the netmen, the new capitalist, all of this, to look terrible. You know, there were rapists, and they had, they had, you know, Jewish-looking guy with five blonde women around them. Started to look like our stuff. I don't even think they put it together, but that's where some of the anti-Jewish thought in the party came from. Every one of these scams, because they were all scams, and it started right from the very beginning. The minute they were allowed to trade freely, they just ran with it. And it was one scam after another. and now by the way
Starting point is 05:19:26 I don't know their conviction was overturned which I find interesting I don't know what happened with their money but you know this is a very obscure case but it really shouldn't be because it answers those two questions
Starting point is 05:19:47 you know one of the reasons the NEP was removed we had a whole lot of people arguing against it. The propaganda's hilarious. Coming out of the, you know, official party publications, the Netman started looking more and more Jewish because they were, even though it was put out often by Jews too.
Starting point is 05:20:12 And, you know, so both, you know, why the NEP was canceled as well as where this anti-Semitism in the party came from. And that's what it was. You didn't have a normal, you know, it was like the 1990s in Russia. You didn't have a regular legal structure for any kind of contract law that actually didn't exist. So, well, that's perfect for these people who've been doing this kind of thing for a very long time. This is why they dominated the NEP.
Starting point is 05:20:49 And it's part of the reason why it ended. and and why, you know, we'd be talked about Jews that were badly affected by the communist regime. Well, this might be part of it. The Gentile communists sort of looking at these Jews, I don't think they're really, I don't think they're really communists. So anyway, that's the short version of the paraffin or the kerosene. controversy in in Russia I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not all right picking up where we left off last time g simon a former emigrant came to USSR in the end of the 1920s as an American businessman with a mission to investigate shortages of Jewish craftsmen's in
Starting point is 05:21:48 tools. Later, in Paris, he published a book with an emotional and ironic title Jew's rule over Russia. Describing the situation with Jewish manufacturing and trade, its oppression and destruction by Soviets, he also shares his impressions. Quoting many conversations, the general mood of the populace is pretty gloomy. Quote, many bad things, many crimes happen in Russia these days. but it's better to suppress that blinding hatred. They often fear that the revolution will inevitably end in the Russian manner, i.e., by mass murder of Jews.
Starting point is 05:22:29 A local Bolshevik Jews suggests that, quote, it's only the revolution that stands between the Jews and those wishing to aggrandize Russia by the rape of Jewish women and the spilling of the blood of Jewish children. You know, it's like telephone games, you know, when you're like high school girls. you make one statement and then she tells her friend and then by the end of it it becomes so exaggerated and distorted
Starting point is 05:22:54 and when you only hear that point of view you don't get into arguments with people that's the only point of view you hear over generations you start to believe it despite everything that we've gone over in this book about how privileged they were during the Tsarist era
Starting point is 05:23:11 the Tsar's bent over backwards spent a fortune trying to make them into normal people but I think the Zionists should have told them we're not normal people we're not Europeans we're not Christians
Starting point is 05:23:26 we don't live in your world and it's just a shame with all these stupid commissions and everything else that it took so long well it was probably too late for them to grasp what they were talking about but even now with the NEP
Starting point is 05:23:43 in the mid-20s we're even in the party, they're starting to get they're starting to get upset. You know, they had scams that I could I could barely figure out because they're so complex and contrived. Who would come up with this? You know, but this is
Starting point is 05:24:03 the reference to, just like in the Cajal, the reference to they're going to murder you if you step out of line, if you step out of the Cajal, is still alive. and this mythology that they truly believed was the only point of view they heard. A well-known economist B.D. Britschus, who in 1920 provided a damning analysis of the socialist economy, he was expelled from the country in 1922 by Lenin, published an extensive article,
Starting point is 05:24:34 quote, Jewish population under communist power in contemporary notes in 1928, chronicling the NEP and the former pale of settlement areas of Ukraine, and by Luhrushia. The relative importance of private enterprise was declining, as even the smallest merchants were deprived of their political rights. They became disenfranchised licentists and couldn't vote in Soviet elections, and thus their civil rights. In contrast, Hans Craftsmen still enjoyed a certain semblance of rights.
Starting point is 05:25:08 Quote, the fight of Soviet authorities against private enterprise and entrepreneurs is in large part a fight against the Jewish populace. Because in those days, quote, not only almost the entire private city enterprise in Ukraine and Belarusia was represented by Jews, but the Jewish participation in the small capitalist upper class in capital cities of Moscow, St. Petersburg and Karkoff had also become very substantial. Brutskis distinguished three periods during the NEP. 21 to 23, 23 to 25, and 25 to 27.
Starting point is 05:25:47 Quote, development of private enterprise was least impeded by communists during the first two and a half years when Bolsheviks were still overwhelmed by their economic debacles. The first communist reaction followed between the end of 1923 and the spring of 1925. Wholesale and shop trade in the former pale of settlement was destroyed with only a small flea market, when only small flea market trade still permitted. Crafts were burdened by taxation. Artisans lost their last tools and materials. The latter often belonged to their peasant customers, to confiscations. The concept of Jewish equality virtually turned into fiction as two-thirds of Jews lost their voting rights.
Starting point is 05:26:31 Yeah, voting rights for what? It wasn't exactly competitive elections, but I've read Burchas before. He's from Lithuania. it's actually a pretty famous series of books he wrote on the on the USSR early on on but this is this is you know capitalism in the wild west in his first period which as we've already well we all know benefits only one group of people as it went on and as those kind of scandals began to erupt they canceled the NEP by, as he says, increasing taxation
Starting point is 05:27:12 to the point where they couldn't, you know, they couldn't really function anymore. And they either, you know, simply left the country or they became part of the bureaucracy, pretty much doing the same kind of thing just now in an official capacity. Because Yevsec, the Jewish section of the Communist Party, quote, inherited specific hatred,
Starting point is 05:27:36 toward petty bourgeoisie cultivated by earlier Jewish socialist parties and saw their own purpose in fighting it, its policy in the beginning of NEP was substantially different from the general party line. During the second part of NEP, the Yvesek attempted to complete the dismantling of Jewish bourgeoisie, which began with war communism. However, information about bleak life of Jewish population in the USSR was leaking out into the Jewish press abroad. Quote, Yevsec's attempted to blame that on the Tsar's regime, which allegedly obstructed Jewish participation in productive labor, that is, by communist definition, in physical labor. And since Jews still prefer unproductive labor, they inevitably suffer. Soviet authorities had nothing to do with this.
Starting point is 05:28:27 Yeah, to be a member of the party, whether you or Gentile, required a level of resistance to cognitive dissonance, that was superhuman, and the ability to just do these gymnastics to justify yourself. Well, that gets easier in a one-party state, although I've always found it interesting. Also, I mentioned this when I did my paper on Jewish settlement in the Far East. You know, it was a heavily Jewish party, and yet even within it, they needed their own section, as if to say that even though we're in power, any interaction with the Gentiles a problem, that we need our own little world, even in totally, you know, as Jewish as the party was. Now, I'm willing to accept this idea. But I think this has more to do with the
Starting point is 05:29:32 the Jewish behavior during the NEP more than anything else you know the Jewish bourgeoisie didn't suffer very much under under the USSR we've already we've been through this already War communism of course was
Starting point is 05:29:53 a far more centralized system as much as they possibly could during the Civil War well okay that that makes sense NEP came afterwards and then through taxation, they canceled it, and now we have the planning and everything else. Also, as a detail, spelling czar S-C-Z-A-R makes no sense whatsoever linguistically. It drives me crazy.
Starting point is 05:30:19 But Bruches objected claiming that in reality it was opposite. Quote, the class of Jewish craftsmen nearly disappeared with the annihilation of petty Jewish manufacture. Indeed, professional, the Jewish classes grew and became diversified, while excessive numbers of petty Jewish businessmen slowly decreased under the Tsar because of the gradual development of ethnic Russian enterprise and deepening business connections between the palest settlement and inner Russia. But now the Jewish population again was turned into a massive petty middleman. I would...
Starting point is 05:30:57 Sorry. Just before, a little bit before we came on, an hour before we came on, I was on one of my favorite Russian language pages, the Union of the Russian people. My favorite authors are there. And there's a lengthy paper talking about all the different ethnic groups, even fairly small in number, the Czechs, the Germans, Armenians. who did very well financially
Starting point is 05:31:26 within the old Russian Empire even some of the Tartars you know he lists them all even sometimes by name and as if to say you know the Jews weren't just picked out for no reason it was their behavior had nothing to do with their success
Starting point is 05:31:46 or anything else it's all of these other traitors didn't fight Russian customs they weren't anti-Russian. Many of them became, like the Germans and the Armenians and the Tartars, became incredibly loyal, as the Civil War showed. You know, you had colonies from all over Europe in different parts of Western Russia all doing fairly well, which says something about the nature of the Tsarist Empire. But the only group that ever, you know, was singled out with Jews. And it has something to do.
Starting point is 05:32:22 They were all, you know, these were merchant peoples. They did well. Some of them had government jobs, like in the German case. No one single them out. Jews and Jews alone. And that's where you get them. There is no other explanation other than their behavior, their contempt, their hatred, which drives their cohesiveness, and their Machiavellian just drive for anything resembling power.
Starting point is 05:32:50 So, yeah, it's been a while since I've read Rootsk, because it's been many years, actually. And this is turning up a lot of stuff. He was pretty famous in the anti-communist movement many years ago, even before my time, once this stuff got translated into English. During the third period of NEP, from spring of 1925 to autumn of 1926, large tax remissions were made for craftsmen and street vendors, village fares were relieved of taxation while activities of state financial inspectors supervising large businesses were brought under the law. The economy and well-being of the Jewish population started to recover rapidly. It was a boom for Jewish craftsmen and merchants specializing in agriculture.
Starting point is 05:33:41 Petty manufacturing grew and successfully competed for raw materials and resources with state manufacture in the western provinces. At the same time, a new decree granted political and therefore certain civil rights to many Jews. The second communist assault on private enterprise, which eventually resulted in the dismantling of NEP, began at the end of 1926. Quote, first, private grain trade was prohibited, followed by bans on raw skins, oil seeds, and tobacco trade, private mills, creameries, tanneries, and tobacco houses were expropriated. Fixed prices on shop merchandise were introduced in the summer of 1927. Most craftsmen couldn't work because of shortage of raw materials.
Starting point is 05:34:32 See, by this point, the Soviet state was more or less secure, despite the peasant uprisings. As we moved towards 1930, most people were. worldwide and domestically, okay, the Soviets apparently aren't going anywhere. We don't know how they did it, but they're not going anywhere. But part of the reason, we've already been over, part of the reason why the NEP was eliminated. The other reason, of course, was because they were now secure. And they were, you know, farmers were planting. Farmers were willing to trade.
Starting point is 05:35:16 they were doing far better than they had, certainly in the previous few years. They never did as well as they did them to the Tsars at any point. But relatively speaking, they started doing very well. They hated the system, and pretty soon they're going to be reminded as to why. The state of affairs and the Stettles of Western Russia alarmed international jury. When I use that term, I get in trouble. For instance, Pasmatic wrote in 1922 that Jews as people are doomed to disappear under Bolsheviks and that communists reduced all Russian Jewry into a crowd of paupers.
Starting point is 05:35:59 However, the Western public, including Jews, did not want to hear all this. The West saw the USSR in good light partly because of general left-leaning, the general left-leaning of European intelligentsia, but mainly because the world in American jury were now confident in a bright future and security of Russian Jews and skillful Soviet propaganda only deepened this impression. Benevolent public opinion was extremely instrumental for Soviet leaders in securing Western and especially American financial aid, which was indispensable for it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait just one second. I thought the West was anti-communist.
Starting point is 05:36:37 I thought the Bolsheviks were a threat to capitalists in the Western world. you getting financial aid now okay i'm sorry keep going it's okay starting over again benevolent public opinion was extremely instrumental for soviet leaders in securing western and especially american financial aid which was indispensable for economical recovery after the brave after their brave war communism as lennon said at the party congress in 1921 quote as the revolution didn't spread to other countries we should do anything possible to secure assistance of big progressive capitalism and for that we are ready to pay hundreds of millions and even billions for our immense wealth, our vast resources, because otherwise our recovery would take decades, end quote.
Starting point is 05:37:27 And the business went smoothly as progressive capitalism showed no scruples about acquiring Russian wealth. The first Soviet international bank, Romscom Bank, was founded in 22. It was headed by the already mentioned Olaf Ashberg, who was reliably delivering aid to Lenin during the entire revolutionary period and by former Russian private bankers Schlezinger, Kalishkin, and Ternovsky. There was also Max May of Morgan Guarantee Bank Trust in the U.S. who was of great assistance to the Soviets. Now they developed a scheme along Raskom Bank to directly purchase goods in the U.S.
Starting point is 05:38:07 despite the feudal protest from the Secretary of State, Charles Hughes, who asserted that the kind of relationship, meant a de facto recognition of the Soviet regime. A Ruscombank, Swedish advisor, Professor G. Kassel, said that it is reckless to leave Russia with all her resources alone. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It is a de facto recognition of the USSR. They realized that, you know, as rapidly industrializing as Russia was prior to 19,
Starting point is 05:38:43 14, a lot of that was gone, and a lot of that talent was gone. They were dead. They were in prison. They were underground. They were in America. But remember, none of this stuff ever ended. This continued right up to the computer revolution in the late 70s. And I like the idea here.
Starting point is 05:39:05 And this happened. Ronald Reagan said the same thing. I love it when, you know, I make a big distinction. between sometimes the state and the regime or the ruling class don't always agree like in Vietnam or or Nixon or Trump here's one of these cases where the state pulls back from other banks and everything else that that are extremists as powerful as they are and say what are you doing we we know Congress knew what the Soviets were doing the prison camps the mass murder of dissidents, the one party state, the destruction of churches, and the people
Starting point is 05:39:51 who were investing in the USSR, we're well aware of that too. But, you know, prophets to profits, they saw Russia as the ultimate trophy. We talked about that already. There were several English politicians saying that. You know, the czar, his control over the currency, you know, this directed growth, that has to go. They're saying the exact same thing now about Putin. That has to go, which means we move in there and we colonize it. There's only one of two options.
Starting point is 05:40:31 Either the state takes a strong role in developing, the national socialist way, like in South Korea, you know, vaguely under Putin and Lukashenko, where it's not state ownership, but it's safe direction versus the Lenin and Stalinist way, which is total state ownership and state direction. Two very, it creates two very different types of systems. In both cases, the capitalists are not, or those who own capital, it's not a capitalist system at that point. The capitalists are always seen as untrustworthy. And which is, you know, it's a part of our tradition. Aristotle placed, you know, the merchant at the very bottom of the
Starting point is 05:41:17 moral scale. They may be necessary, but they're still at the bottom of the moral scale. They're useful, but they can never be trusted. And whether it be national or regardless, that's what, that's what really, you know, that's the difference between the two systems. And, but, but they couldn't resist the profits here, and the fact that, you know, GE, the big mining concerns in the U.S., they built the Soviet Union from the ground up. They built the workers' paradise. And this is why the history of the 20th century has to be totally rewritten. Concessioners flocked into the USSR where they were very welcome. Here we see Lenin's favorite, Armand Hammer, who in 1921 decided to help rebuild ural industry and procured a concession
Starting point is 05:42:10 on asbestos mines in Alapayevsk. Lenin mentioned in 1921 that Hammer's father will provide two million stones of bread on very favorable terms, 5% in exchange for your old jewelry to be sold in America. And Hammer shamelessly exported Russian art treasures in exchange for the development in a pencil manufacturing. Later in the times of Stalin and Khrushchev, Hammer frequented Moscow continuing to export Russian cultural treasures, church utensils, icons, paintings, China, et cetera, in high volumes. Yeah, the Jews had no use for this. They hated it.
Starting point is 05:42:54 They destroyed some of it. But they were also used in this case, from one Jew to another. and it was the ultimate blasphemy. If you've ever seen the movie The Social Network about the founding of Facebook, the Winklevox Twins were played
Starting point is 05:43:11 by an actor named Army Hammer. And yes, that is Armand Hammer's great-grandson. That's run. I forgot about him. He's been in a few things. Yep. However, in 1921 to 22, large sums were donated
Starting point is 05:43:27 by American Jewry and distributed in Russia by the American Relief Administration for assistance to the victims of bloody pogroms for the rescue of towns in the south of Russia and for the peasantry of the Volga region. Many ARA associates were Jews. Yeah, this was a creation of Wilson. This is why the Soviets knew they didn't have to worry about a rational economy right away. They didn't go hungry. the peasantry did they weren't cold you know because of a lack of a fuel or anything else
Starting point is 05:44:03 the peasantry was um and of course this was beyond recognition this is uh almost like the relationship between the u.s and Israel and um and of course the state this wasn't directly a state organization but it might as well have been but with all the destruction of World War I the Civil War the peasant uprisings they're going to donate money for buddy pogroms
Starting point is 05:44:36 that didn't happen at that era anyway, the post-Soviet era just did not happen and something tells me that the peasantry got zero I have to think this next paragraph is complete sarcasm by Solcheon
Starting point is 05:44:53 another novel idea from the 20s, not so much an idea originating among Jews, as one dreamed up to appeal to them, was Jewish colonization of agricultural land. It has said their history of dispersion had denied them possibilities in agriculture and forced them to engage in money lending, commerce, and trade. Now at last, Jews could occupy the land and thereby renounce the harmful ways of the past to their labor productively under Soviet skies and thus putting to flight the unflattering myths which had grown up about them. Yeah, you know, when you're as great of a writer of Solzhenitin, you can put sarcasm like
Starting point is 05:45:37 that where, you know, people, you know, Normies read this and they go, I don't, I can't tell is he being serious? And he could always point to that. See, I'm not an end to somebody. You know, the whole, of course, it's, it's, it's sarcasm. The entire, what was it, you know, first half of the book refuted that whole thing. So, yeah, he's being funny, and writers like him could get away with this kind of thing. Soviet authorities turn to the idea of colonization partially to improve productivity, but mostly for political reasons.
Starting point is 05:46:11 This was sure to bring a swell of sympathy but more important financial aid. Burschus Breitz, the Soviet government needing credits, search for support among the foreign bourgeoisie and highly valued its relations with the foreign Jewish bourgeoisie. However, toward 1924, the donations stopped pouring in, and even the Jewish-American charity Joint Committee was forced to halt its work in Europe. To again collect large amounts of money, as they had through the American Relief Administration in 1922, they needed to create, as they say in the U.S., a boom.
Starting point is 05:46:47 colonization became the boom for Jewish charities. The grandiose project for resettling 100,000 Jewish families on their own land was, apparently, mostly a public relations ploy. The committee for the state land trust for Jewish laborers, Zomzet, was founded in 1924, followed by the all-Soviet volunteer land society of Jewish laborers, OZet. I remember as schoolchildren, this is Solzhenyson talking now. I remember a school children were made to join and pay membership dues by bringing money from home to ODD, Society of Friends of the Children
Starting point is 05:47:27 and OZET, in many countries sister organizations to OZet sprung up. That tells you how important that myth is to Jewish PR, that oh, we would love to be farmers. But as you all know, and as every academic knows, we weren't allowed to have land or to farm it because if we were given that opportunity, we'd be farmed, we'd have everything growing.
Starting point is 05:47:56 And, you know, there's no way that this was organized with a straight phase. Knowing full well the history of the matter, of course, the entire thing was the public relations ploy. By boom, I think he means this, you know, this economic growth spurt. But since propaganda is really all that matters in this case, whether it worked or not, they could still say it worked. There's nothing more absurd than the Volunteer Land Society of Jewish Laborers. There are words in there that should never be put together. And how many hours did we spend talking about the Tsarist plans for settling Jews on land, paying for everything, bringing in even during the days of serfdom, bringing in serfs to teach them?
Starting point is 05:48:45 how to do this? How many hours do we spend on this over and over and over again? 50 episodes. Oh, yeah. I mean, over and over and over again to the point where we were saying the same things. Yeah, would you say, how many? I would say 40 to 50 episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:49:06 That was a huge theme in the first half of the book, the pre-Soviet part of the book. But they're still using it. so yeah it's a PR ploy under johnson's law that you know um americans really don't know anything brits don't know anything about russian history so we could we could say this stuff they're not going to say anything um because there's too few few people to refute it and of course it's true it was immediately clear that the assistance of the soviet government in the passage of poor jews to the land was a matter of international significance. Through this, the foreign proletariat could judge the power and solidity of the Soviet
Starting point is 05:49:51 government. This development had the active participation in financial support of the powerful American joint, the Jewish Chronicle of London, October 16th, 1925. Quote, the Crimea has been offered as replacement for Palestine. Why send Jews to Palestine? Oh, this is so good. Why send Jews to Palestine, which is so unproductive, and which will mean so much sacrifice and hard work, when the rich land of Ukraine and fruited fields of the Crimea are smiling upon suffering. This is so damn good.
Starting point is 05:50:25 So I can't believe this. Moscow will be the benefactor and defender of Russian Jewry and will be able to seek moral support from Jews around the globe. As well, the plan will cost nothing as American Jews are covering all the expenses. it's um we've been through this so many times but um we all know that what what crimea refers to and even that part of ukraine it refers to new gazaria i've written on the movement um several others others have two uh i've been writing on it for for many years i think that that that plan is out of the question now but it wasn't in fact um kulmoyski and a whole bunch of the Jewish oligarchs in Ukraine were, you know, as I mentioned before,
Starting point is 05:51:16 building these huge Jewish cultural centers in Dinepra and places in the east. And as I said, and I didn't need to be context for this, but using the body of Rebbe Schneerson, the Messiah for, you know, Shabod and so many other Orleans. Orthodox Jews, what do we need Jerusalem for? And since he was the Messiah to many, I don't know, maybe millions of Orthodox Jews, you know, the whole point, the issue against Zionism was always that it can only, from the Jewish point of view, was we can only go to Israel when the Messiah is here. Well, the Messiah is here. and this was the concept of New Kazagya, and this is why Kolomoisky and the other billionaires created these huge, the menorah center, for example, the largest Jewish cultural center on the planet.
Starting point is 05:52:22 It didn't take the Russian emigre press long to recognize the Soviet maneuver. P. Struve in the Parisian journal Renaissance wrote, quote, this entire undertaking serves to bind Jewry, both Russian and international, to communist power and definitely mark Jews with the brand of communism, end quote. In a lead editorial from the Berlin rule, quote, it's true, the world identifies the Bolsheviks with the Jews. There is a need to further connect them with shared responsibility for the fate of hundreds of thousands of poor. Then you can trick wealthy American Jews with a threat. The fall of Soviet power followed by America.
Starting point is 05:53:01 Pogrom, which sweeps away the Jewish societies they found it. Therefore, they will support Soviet power at all costs, end quote. In a faithful irony, the Bolshevik Bluff met American Enterprise and the Americans fell for it, not knowing what was going on in the USSR. Well, that's, you know, in using different words, I've said that probably a thousand times in my career. that Americans don't know. Rather than try to understand Russia or jury or nationalism for that matter, they create it in their minds. It's an enemy.
Starting point is 05:53:43 So we have to project all of our faults onto it and create essentially this non-existent entity. You hear Lindy Graham talking about Russia. I don't even know. Where's he getting this stuff from? Over time, it's just been constructed out of absolutely nothing. This has happened a few times before in American history. Even World War I propaganda with the hen, you know, with a baby hanging from the bayonet, that kind of thing. This is, this is, I have said this so many times, the Americans fell for it, meaning the government as well as a rich capitalist, Jew and non-Jew, but especially the non-Jew, because they didn't know what was happening.
Starting point is 05:54:27 they didn't have any historical background. They read it in the paper, and they said, oh, my God, this is great. And then they fell for it. Actually, the world Jewish community was excited by hope in the rehabilitation of Jewish agriculture. In September 1925 at the All-German session, the Jewish bourgeoisie under the leadership of the director of the German National Bank, Heilmar Schacht, decided to support the project. Leon Bloom founded the Jewish construction fund in France, which sent tractors to the settlers. The Society for Aid for Jewish Land Colonization was founded in New York. In countries around the globe, all the way to South Africa, money was collected for the colonization plan from social Democrats, anarchists.
Starting point is 05:55:15 And so they say, ordinary workers. Oh, my God, yeah, ordinary workers to give land to Jews in, uh, in the USSR. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, you know, the only way in the Jewish mindset that they would ever work the land systematically anywhere is if they thought it was their society, if they thought it was their promised land, which is why there is agriculture, although usually surf labor, using surf labor, and, you know, the kubitum and things like that in Israel. if they thought this was remotely possible again this is yet another admission this is a Jewish society now they can work they couldn't do it under the czarish no way
Starting point is 05:56:06 but now they can because this is their society but there's also the variable that says they've been so used to their lifestyle as usurers middlemen smugglers
Starting point is 05:56:22 essentially organized crime all these organized crime guys the last thing they want to do is work that even if they thought it was their society they're not about to go out there with a with a backhoe and the tiny handful
Starting point is 05:56:43 we talked about it was always a tiny handful that might have but this was such a ridiculous propaganda effort it assumed rightly at the time that Americans knew zero about Russia, Jews, or Russian history concerning the Jews. It's unfortunate that the emigres, the Orthodox Church abroad and wherever they were at the time, and the anti-communist emigres, were, they weren't writing in English at the time. And, yeah, yeah, there were smuggling things back in,
Starting point is 05:57:14 but they didn't get their message out to a broader society like the Jews were. And for a long time, that was a huge problem. They were very, very, and you can't really blame them. Russian immigrant circles were very closed, terrified of penetration from Soviet, you know, KGB, NKB, NKBD, whatever. Again, you can't really blame them for this. It takes a while for them to get to trust you. The problem with that is that they usually just keep writing for themselves, their own language. and for in Russian to be smuggled into the USSR.
Starting point is 05:57:58 As far as convincing Americans, it would take another generation where things started being translated. He had guys like Sarah from Rose, eventually guys like me who were taking that stuff and now making sure that as many English language users know about it as possible. But at the time, they were awful. I mean, at the time the left was so much better at propaganda. I think that's not the case anymore. But the right in the 20s, it changed rapidly.
Starting point is 05:58:33 But they still were, they were so much better at propaganda than the Gentiles were seemingly innocent of that kind of thing. Again, that was to change. But the emigres, you know, it took a while for them to really matter in the Western world. The editors of the American Magazine Morning Journal posed the question, as had many others, is it ethical for Russian Jews to colonize land that was expropriated? The Jewish Chronicle recalled that most of the former landowners were in prison, shot, or exiled. They were answered by the leading American jurist Louis Marshall and chairman of the World Joint Committee who claimed the beneficent right of revolutionary expropriation.
Starting point is 05:59:20 Indeed, during the years 1919 to 1923, more than 23,000 Jews had settled in former estates near the towns and villages in the former Palais settlement. By spring, 1923, no more of this land remained available, and the first small groups of Jews started to form for resettlement to the free step land in southern Ukraine. This movement picked up in speed after 1925. The International Jewish Agro Joint was formed by Marshall with the banker Paul Warb. as the director. Here are our chroniclers of the history of communism declined to issue a denunciation of class enemies and instead approve of their efforts. Yes, he was all of a sudden, Paul Warburg is a member of the proletariat.
Starting point is 06:00:06 You know, a poor priest was being sent to the camps for being alive with the bourgeoisie, but Paul Warburg is considered an ally of the working class. I mean, this is the world that they lived in. labels mattered not not reality now we've been through this already they could expand this all they want yes jews came into a certain ownership of land that they weren't out there with a backhoe um they were they used it as as grounds for speculation they used it you know they certainly had uh serf labor using it just like they do and or actually tilling it like they do and at least in some places in the occupied territories.
Starting point is 06:00:53 You know, so, yeah, they could have land. That doesn't mean that they've suddenly become farmers. The agro joint concluded an agreement with Comzat about the contribution of tractors, farm machinery, seed, the digging artesian wells, and professional training for Jewish youth. E.K.O. assisted as well. At a 1926 session of Osset, Kalin spoke out forcefully against any plans of Jewish assimilation and instead proposed a wide-ranging program for Jewish autonomy known in the West as the Kalinan Declaration.
Starting point is 06:01:31 The early plans called for resettlement to the south of Ukraine and northern Crimea of approximately 100,000 families, or 20% of the entire Jewish population of the USSR. The plans contemplated separate. Jewish national regions as well. Many remain jobless and nevertheless declined the opportunity to work. And only half of all Jews who agreed to resettle actually took up residents in the villages
Starting point is 06:01:55 they were supposed to resettle in. That's the exact same line he used or was used by Shultzhenitsyn and others at the other part of the book where the Tsars were doing this. Now, the agenda was very different, of course. New Qazaria was a sort of a thing
Starting point is 06:02:16 if not a subconscious thing but yeah they could say the expansion of Jewish agriculture that doesn't mean any of them are working you can't take what essentially was a mafia organization
Starting point is 06:02:29 for years and all of a sudden if they're going to be working the land pulling weed it's it's out of the question and as we said I think last time claiming to be
Starting point is 06:02:40 carpenters and welders and welders and things like that, that sometimes was true, but not always. You know, they used these job titles, these labels to gain certain benefits, and that's about it.
Starting point is 06:02:54 It's like getting a no-worker, no-show job out of a large, a large construction project. But this line is exactly what was said before. 50% who agreed to resettle, that's now, so a percentage,
Starting point is 06:03:10 of a percentage, took up residence there. They still may have had a certain interest in it, if there was no private property there, but they still may have had, you know, been able to speculate on it to some extent. But even in this case, I mean, the cleaning declaration was an early aspect of Kazania. It's no accident that this is where they were going. Now, a bit of Bijdan, which will be talked about later under Stalin, is a separate issue that has nothing to do with Gazda or Middle East, and it fails, as we all know. But that phrase, that was in the parentheses there, that must have been said eight times
Starting point is 06:03:57 in this book in one form or another. I think we should stop right there. We go into talking about how American Zionists are going to react to this. My God, this is this is intense. Yeah. Yeah. I apologize for interrupting when I was reading that one paragraph, but it was just so telling of how, you know, it just basically sounds like today. I mean, this is, you know, you talk about the capitalist takeover in the 1920s.
Starting point is 06:04:31 you had you also had it in the 1990s as soon as as soon as everything fell apart the cat the quote unquote capitalist moved in there again except this time with the with the sole goal of basically raping everything yeah and and assets tripping at that point as far as soviet industry was was concerned they weren't going to refurbish anything um so Yeah, it's how many times, even just the number of times either one of us have said, oh, my God, that's the exact language used today, almost word for word. You know, this is, this is just, it doesn't really, the society, you know, Jews are Jews no matter what. And despite the Jewishness of communism and the party in the USSR, it was a ethnic movement, although with plenty of Gentiles in it, useful idiots. they still know they we needed our own thing you need to be isolated from you but abysdong was actually sort of a part of that mentality that's how far we're willing you know in a jewish party well there's a handful of Gentiles here that's too much it's like all these rich Jews when they take a cruise on Christmas because even now with the with the secularization of Christmas
Starting point is 06:05:58 they still can't take it. And the Christmas cruises are, to this day, if you live in New Jersey, you know, this is kind of an old cliche, you know, Jews go on, get out of the country or go on the water or something like that. When Christmas comes around, they simply can't handle it. All right. Everyone go over to the show notes or go over to the description of the videos and support Dr. Johnson's work.
Starting point is 06:06:27 He's got links to a Patreon. over there, Bitcoin address, multiple ways you can support his work. Please go do that. And, yeah, this is one long chapter. And we're not even close to being finished yet. I mean, there's just so much here. So support Dr. Johnson's work because it ain't easy research in all this before we hit the air. Yeah.
Starting point is 06:06:52 Well, I mean, I don't really do it. This is all off the top of my head. all of it, because this is my field. If I can't do it off the top of my head at 54 years old, then maybe I should find something else to do. No, no, I don't really prepare because I know there's going to be something terrifying here that I'm going to end up talking about for, you know, 10 minutes and go off in a million different tangents because, you know, this is.
Starting point is 06:07:22 This is the most intense period in Russian history. um and uh even talking about it when you know the truth of the matter it's just sometimes it's just too much it's stressful yeah go support dr johnson and um i will talk to in a couple days dr johnson look forward to it thank you all right my friend see you then i want to welcome everyone back to our reading of alexander solcien's 200 years together this is episode 88 dr Johnson. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? Actually, I'm doing exceptionally well.
Starting point is 06:08:02 I'm kind of back to normal. We were talking about Burma, which is where Johnson's law came from when I was studying it for the very first paper I ever wrote when I was at the Barnes Review many years ago. And now it's kind of back in the news again. So I have a new paper coming out entitled, Will Someone Just Shoot, Onsuki, You Ready. So, you know, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 06:08:26 It's just, I'm sick of her. And she causes so much trouble for that country. And it's a, you know, a national socialist government. Years ago, they called themselves that. The military government, the Slork government, I have their flag somewhere. Believe it or not. It looks like Taiwan, but it's not. And she is such a puppet.
Starting point is 06:08:49 And now the civil war is raging. And God, well, someone just knock her off. my lord that's that's the subtitle is a good thing the burmese don't have an apache here or else you might be in a lot of trouble yeah yeah um that's yeah that's definitely going to be this i you know she's just yeah and it shows you it's the military government so evil why haven't they just dumped her by now but um she's not even a burmese citizen hmm all right let's move on episode 88 Incredible that we got here. Indeed.
Starting point is 06:09:27 However, American Zionists subjected to the OZET plan and saw in the, quote, propaganda for the project of widespread Jewish agricultural colonization in the Soviet Union, a challenge to Zionism and its idea for the settlement of Eretz Israel, end quote. OZet falsely claimed its plans did not contradict at all the idea of colonization of Palestine. I think I haven't I haven't checked this out since we did it last time I think you're talking about the colonization of Crimea and we discussed this whole thing the they didn't call it that but essentially the new Khazaria project in its earlier manifestations great hope was placed on Crimea there we go there were 455,000 hectares hector given over to Jewish colonization in Ukraine and Belarusia 697,000 hectares set aside in Crimea for that purpose. According to the 10-year plan for the settlement of Jews in Crimea, the Jewish proportion of the population was to grow from 8% in 1929 to 25% in 1939.
Starting point is 06:10:37 It was assumed that the Jews would substantially outnumber the Tataris by that time. Quote, there shall be no obstacles to the creation of the Crimean ASSR, a Northern Crimean Autonomous Jewish Republic or Oblast, end quote. So 700,000 hectares, which I just discovered not that long ago, was actually a metric system term. I could have sworn it was imperial. That's, you know, so you multiply roughly by three. That's how many acres.
Starting point is 06:11:11 Well, where did that land come from? Crimea is not very big. Peasants were just thrown out of it. God knows what they did. As we know, that's not really a big problem. I've already discussed, and I have paper after paper out on the new Khazaria idea, which concerns, you know, much of, you know, southern Ukraine and Crimea that has nothing in common with the rest of Ukraine. And Putin's invasion, thank God, the Almighty, the Lord of Host, that had put the kibosh on that permanently, I think.
Starting point is 06:11:47 The settlement of the Jews in the Crimea provoked the hostility of Tatar's. Are they giving Crimea to the Jews? And dissatisfaction of local landless peasants. Laren writes, quote, evil and false rumors are circulating throughout the country about removal of land from non-Jews, the expulsion of non-Jews, and the particularly strong support the authorities have given to Jewish settlers, end quote. It went so far that the chairman of the C.I.K. of the Crimea, ASSR, Vely Ibrahimov, published an interview in the Simferopol paper, Red Crimea, September 26, 1926,
Starting point is 06:12:30 which Lauren does not quote from, but which he claims was a manifestation of evil bourgeois chauvinism and a call for a pogrom. Well, the land came from somewhere, and it's exactly what they did. they threw out, God knows how many peasants and when people complained I mean there were plenty of Russians there too Russians and Tartars Tartters were known for their
Starting point is 06:12:53 tremendous loyalty to Russia you know not in the Middle Ages but as time went on and they still are you know they voted massively to join Russia a few years ago but and then when someone complains about it it's a call for a program
Starting point is 06:13:11 and I have the feeling it was actually registered as a pogrom that to complain about Jewish, and again, it's more admission that this is a Jewish movement, that to complain about Jewish colonization and hence the removal of Russian and tartar farmers, who God knows how long they've been there, is itself bourgeois chauvinism, which is another word they use for nationalism, and not even that, a call for a program Now prior to the war Russo-Ukrainian war
Starting point is 06:13:44 there was a Mossad finance movement to settle and now you know they're going to the UAE
Starting point is 06:13:55 since Crimea is out of the question to settle a bunch of Jews there and and it didn't go very far There weren't that many, but they took over. They created their own, you know, sections.
Starting point is 06:14:16 But it didn't go, you know, the war interrupted at all. So, and of course, the referendum, which they were opposed to. So this has been going on for a long time. And it shows you that even with a Jewish party or a heavily Jewish party, they still didn't see the USSR as their country. It had to be purely Jewish. But this is, you think we'd be used to this by now? The absurd reactions they have to things. They throw people off the land.
Starting point is 06:14:49 They settle these Jews who don't know what a farm looks like, who have never held a hole or a scythe in their entire lives. Of course, they were going to be hiring a surf labor, no doubt, if that ever went through. and if you know any any you know this is not a good idea is bourgeois chauvinism and a call for a program and in fact an anti-Semitic act you would figure we'd be used to that but i'm not ibrahimov also promulgated a resolution in projects which were a quote not yet ready for publication also not quoted by laran for this laran denounced
Starting point is 06:15:28 Ibrahimov to the Central Control Commission of C.K. of VK.P.B. recounting the incident with pride in his book. As a result, Ibrahimov was removed and then shot, after which the Jewish colonization of Crimea gained strength. As was typical for the communist regime, the closed trial of Abramov resulted in a political conviction for connections with a Kulak bandit gang, officially for banditry. A certain Mustafa, the assistant to the chair of the CIC, was also shot with Ibrahimov as a bandit. Now, I want to take this opportunity to point out that this was under, this was under Lenin.
Starting point is 06:16:18 Maybe the very end of his life, but this was under Lenin. Stalin did not create this stuff. All of this nonsense, all of this shit. suiting for no reason, on behalf of the Jews, no less, Stalin simply was able to perfect it because he had far more resources at his at his disposal. This sort of thing was done long before Stalin. And I say this only because it's a very common theme, especially for academics saying that Stalin ruined the socialist experiment. It would have been wonderful. But Stalin, that Royalist Russian nationalist and all this other nonsense was such a tyrant. That's kind of the
Starting point is 06:17:05 official concept right now. But this and a trillion other things that we've discussed show that this exact same kind of thing was done under Lennon and Trotsky. Rumors of the effective assistance given to the Jewish settlers did not die down. The authorities tried to counter them. A government newspaper in 1927 wrote, the generous assistance to Jewish settlers is coming from Jewish community organizations without mentioning they were Western organizations and not from the government as is rumored. To refute the rumors, Schlichter, the young brawler from Kiev's Duma in October 1905, now Narcom of agriculture in Ukraine, toured over the south of Ukraine.
Starting point is 06:17:49 Rumors that the Jews were not working the land given to them but were renting it out or hiring farm laborers were met with, quote, we haven't observed this behavior, but the Jewish settlers must be forbidden to rent out their land, and the unhealthy atmosphere surrounding the Jewish resettlement must be countered with the widest possible education campaign. Yeah, education and huge quotes. No, this is not the first time we've come across this. In the czarist era, we came across many times where Jews were settled, you know, voluntarily in a certain agricultural area, given excellent land that actual farmers would have, would have lined. And of course, either they speculated on the land, they borrowed money based on it. They certainly took all the government subsidies that
Starting point is 06:18:37 this evil Tsarish regime was handing out, or they were hiring what amounted to be serfs. Now I don't care what Schlichter says They're not renting it out They're simply using surf labor Because the people who And they probably were people who had been on the land already That now were removed And had nowhere to go
Starting point is 06:19:01 Unless they were sent somewhere else or whatever But if you remember In the Tsarist era There was a program that the evil Tsarist government created Where Peasants would be used to teach the Jews how to work the land, even what land is so far into them. And they turned out to be served labor or worse. And this is really no different than that. They're not renting
Starting point is 06:19:30 it out. They don't have individual title to it. So technically, he's correct. They're not renting it now, but they're simply using locals to do the work. And because, this kind of work, or really any kind of work with their hands, it's just out of the question, it's beneath them, even in what they thought was going to be a purely Jewish piece of the Soviet Empire. The article allows one to judge about the scale of events. It states a 630 Jewish households moved into Kersan province between the end of 1925 and July of 1927.
Starting point is 06:20:09 In 1927, there were 48 Jewish agricultural settlements in Ukraine with a total population of 35,000. In Crimea, 4,463 Jews lived in Jewish agricultural settlements in 1926. Other sources implausibly claim that by 1928, 220,000 Jews lived in Jewish agricultural colonies. Similarly, Laren mentioned 200,000 by the end of 1929. Where does the order of magnitude discrepancy come from? Laren here contradicts himself saying that in 1929, the share of Jews in agriculture, was negligible, less than 0.2%, and almost 20% among merchants and 2% in population in general. Well, keep in mind, London was dead at this point. In 25, 27, he had this horrible death.
Starting point is 06:20:59 He thought he was being electrocuted and, you know, demons were coming to get him. But, yeah, they may have lived in agricultural colonies. But leadership at the top was, I don't want to say chaotic, but there was no one person quite yet in charge. And they took advantage of this. But Laren is trying to defend this idea. But he's also trying to be semi-honest about it. So that's why he contradicts himself.
Starting point is 06:21:27 No, I notice this all the time, you know, when I was a young man and I started reading about Russian history, these big survey history books that certain things just didn't add up in their descriptions. They couldn't be correct. And it's the same thing here. They try to be somewhat honest. but they also have an agenda so what they did is what they did in the Tsarist era they you know
Starting point is 06:21:52 speculated on it they use slave labor surf labor whatever whatever it was they use it for God anything but working on it and you know and you could see why Zionists didn't like the idea now today you have the whole
Starting point is 06:22:10 the new New Khazaria idea idea, which is now gone from Kolomoisky, was that the promised land truly is Crimea and southern Ukraine, which is why he built that massive menorah foundation in the big synagogue and everything, this massive multi-billion dollar thing, not in Crimea, but very close to it. It was the same kind of idea. But the promised land was going to be actually Khazardia, or at least a piece of it, you know, Khazars didn't really work either. I mean, the Jewish elite didn't work. They charged tolls on, you know, that was the same kind of thing.
Starting point is 06:22:55 They were known for their brutality. It was a slave system. And, you know, who could have predicted this? Now, the actual number we probably will never know. Maybe it's around 4,000. I don't know. But clearly, this is not working out, just like in, and, you know, and the number. czar service. It's not going to work out then. It's not going to work out now. And thanks to Putin,
Starting point is 06:23:16 it didn't work out when Kulamoyski was in charge of Ukraine. Mayakovsky saw it differently. Quote, a hard toiling Jew tills the rocky land, end quote. However, the program of Jewish land colonization for all practical purposes was a failure. Really? Wow. I'm shocked. I get a little room. For many of the settlers, there was little motivation to stay. It didn't help that the resettlement and the building project had come from on high, and the money was from Western organizations.
Starting point is 06:23:53 A lot of government assistance for Jewish settlers didn't help. It was little known that tractors for neighboring collective farms were ordered to till Jewish land. Despite the flow of 2,000 to 3,000 resettling Jewish families, by the end of the five-year work, Jewish settlements in Crimea, listed only around 5,000 families instead of the pre-planned 10 to 15,000. That's still a lot. The reason was as settlers frequently returned to their place of origin and moved to the cities of Crimea and other parts of the country.
Starting point is 06:24:27 The mass departure of Jews from agriculture in the 1920s and 30s resemble similar Jewish withdrawal from agricultural colonies in the 19th century, albeit now there were many new occupations available in industry and an administration. a prohibited field for Jews in Tsarist Russia. Yeah, well, administration, not anything, you know, not normal trades. You know, we've been through that, we've been through that already. Yeah, of course, he's going to make that connection. He talked about it at length.
Starting point is 06:24:58 But I guess the party must have thought, I mean, the party is heavily Jewish anyway. They must have thought that non-elite Jews, knowing that their people were, in essence, running the country especially now that Lenin had died would see it as as their country and hence till the land like they did
Starting point is 06:25:22 or sort of kind of what they did in Israel with the kibbutzum but even that didn't work you know they you know it's just they think they could they could change people which by the way is the Marxist idea that the human nature is completely
Starting point is 06:25:38 malleable coming from Rousseau and many others, but, you know, when it comes to this kind of thing, it clearly isn't. They're not used to it. They don't like it. And for centuries, they look down on it. They're not going to now start doing it. You know, there were too many Russians and tartars around anyway, even in their own party. Eventually, collectivization arrived. Suddenly, in 1930, Semyon Demonstein, for many years the head of the Jewish section of CK and VKPB, a staunch communist who bravely put up with all
Starting point is 06:26:12 Soviet programs in the 20s, came out in the press against universal collectivization in national regions. He was attempting to protect the Jewish colony from collectivization, which he had been warned about. However, collectivization came, not sparing the fresh shoots of Jewish land stewardship. At almost the same time, the Jewish and non-Jewish, Kolkazzois, Kolkazes, were combined under the banner of internationalism, and the program of Jewish settlement of Ukraine and Crimea was finally halted. I'm noticing in the next paragraph that they're talking about Bidabizdan, and that surprises me because that, you know, there came a little bit later.
Starting point is 06:26:57 I wasn't expecting it. I have a lengthy paper out on it, which I can also send you. but now we're just starting the era of collectivization. This is where the millions were slaughtered. Russian peasants, not necessarily in Siberia, not in, well, actually in Siberia too, not in Ukraine, though, had their communes going back to the, practically the beginning of time. But these were not that. these were just random people thrown together, usually in large numbers, and given, you know, targets and they didn't know each other. There was no, it's a collective, not a community. There's a big difference between a collective and a community.
Starting point is 06:27:48 A community is organic. A collective is not. And Jews were heavily in charge of this. And again, having no clue, you know, what goes into farming or what you do. and it was forced peasants resisted more
Starting point is 06:28:07 more warfare more uprisings and more famine so now I think we'll get into that a bit later I think with when Stalin is firmly in power but
Starting point is 06:28:20 the beginning of collectivization were talked about under Lenin I want to make that very clear but collectivization was so radical it wasn't so much halted, but it was just simply forgotten about. The principal Soviet project of Jewish colonization at Biro Bidson, a territory nearly the size of Switzerland, between the two branches of the Amur River near the Chinese border, it had been described variously. In 1956, Khrushchev bragged in conversations with Canadian communists that the soil was rich,
Starting point is 06:28:55 the climate was southern. There was much sun and water, and rivers filled with fish in vast forests. The socialist Vestnik described it as covered with wild taiga, swamp land made up a significant portion of the territory. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, a plain with swamps in places but a fertile land along the Amur. Now, I don't know how in depth you're going to get into this. I, you know, I always wondered, and most, a lot of people do.
Starting point is 06:29:28 why all the way out there in the middle of you can't get any more obscure than the area but of Beeston just on the Chinese border why in heaven's name would that be the place
Starting point is 06:29:43 and I discovered the reason and I am the very first person to discover the reason I discovered in both American and in Russian journals dealing with mining very obscure one is from the
Starting point is 06:29:57 the 40s, that the prediction was there was a huge amount of gold here. No one gave a dam about the soil being rich or anything else. And the Chinese could get their hands on it, or we can get our hands on it. Well, who knows more about gold than Jews? Now, God knows they weren't going to be the miners. But that's why Bilibistan was chosen. It failed because it wasn't. Both Soviet and American expeditions were wrong.
Starting point is 06:30:38 Now, there is a small mine there. It's owned by a Chinese company. I think it's still an action. And there's still a small. There's a handful of Jews out there. The Jewish population never was more than, what, 10% of the population anyway. You had all kinds of Asians out there. So they were in their glory.
Starting point is 06:30:57 It was no Russians, but, or very few Russians. But that's the, that's the reason. That's the reason why it was done. And it was just such a bizarre, a bizarre thing. And it was such a difficult thing to do. I mean, why? Why? And you're talking to the guy who discovered why?
Starting point is 06:31:24 Because I've searched in every language and no one else had mentioned this. that mining expeditions said that this was going to be the, it's like the gold rush in California, 1848. This was going to be the incredibly wealthy area. Still didn't. It was such a bizarre place that it's still, you know, but had it actually been this explosive, it maybe would have succeeded a little bit. Now, it is a beautiful part of the world. the wildlife out there, they're not used to any of this. None of us are. But that was the initial
Starting point is 06:32:05 impetus. Later on when it was actually became policy, it was a Stalinist idea. And it was supposed to be a Jewish outpost. But why there? And that's the reason why? And it turned out to be completely false, which is at least part of the reason why it failed. So you hear it here. You're talking to the guy who discovered it. The project came about in 1927 from the Comset, a committee of the CIC, and was intended to, quote, turn a significant part of the Jewish population into a settled agricultural people in one location, from Kalinan. Also, the Jewish Autonomous Republic was to serve as a counterweight to Zionism, creating a national homeland with at least half a million population. One possible motive behind the plan, which cannot be excluded, to wedge a loyal Soviet. population into the hostile Cossack frontier.
Starting point is 06:33:03 Ozat sent a scientific expedition to Birobidzin in 1927 and before large settlements of Jews began arriving, in 1928 started preparations and building for the settlement using laborers from the local populace and wandering work crews of Chinese and Koreans. Well, that's going to make them real popular out there. Yeah, it just was There's still actually There's a synagogue out there that still functions I don't know the exact number of Jews
Starting point is 06:33:34 There's I know there's been every once in a while I come across an article on them The handful that are left But I'm not saying that They're having this loyal population in Chinese That is relevant That's not the main reason But it is an important reason
Starting point is 06:33:49 A lot of people have speculated Very good scholars have speculated But the main reason is as I've explained it, because in and of itself, I mean, of all places, and even if there was this huge mind, I can't imagine it working, you know, they had to go out there and somehow hack their way to a civilization in very difficult terrain. Technically, I guess it would be, I guess it would be southern Siberia. So the whole thing, that's why I dig, I just began digging, no pun intended, until I found something, because the whole thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Older residents of the area, Trans-Bicol Cossacks exiled there between the 1860s and the 1880s
Starting point is 06:34:38 and already tested by the hardship of the frontier woods, remember being concerned about the Jewish settlement. The Cossacks needed vast tracts of land for their farming methods and feared they would be crowded out of lands they used for hunting and hay harvesting. The ComZat Commission report was a preliminary plan for the possible gradual resettlement of 35,000 families, but reality was different. The CIC of VKPB in 1928 assigned Bidobizan for Jewish colonization in preparation of first settler trains began immediately. Quote, for the first time ever, city dwellers from Ukraine and Belarusia,
Starting point is 06:35:18 without any preparation for agricultural labor were sent to farm the land. They were lured by the prospect of having the status of Lishinets removed. Can you imagine just being thrown out there? I mean, of course, everything was free. You know, Zard Nicholas II, others had the same idea with Siberia, Russians who wanted to move out there,
Starting point is 06:35:42 everything was free. Certain parts land is wonderful. you know the wildlife can be brutal but I don't think the Cossacks had to worry too much although calling them Cossacks as iffy Cossacks didn't normally
Starting point is 06:35:58 farm these were much later Zaris designated probably from the Urals I guess there were a few of these they weren't Cossacks in the sense that I would never call them that for many reasons
Starting point is 06:36:14 they were actually created by of the state, the czar state that is. And, but there certainly aren't farmers either. They're, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're raiders. They're like orthodox bikers, I've said many times before. But I don't think, you know, they had to wait. So what, I guess if, at very, at the very best, given what they knew at the time, these Jews would use Chinese, Korean, there's a whole bunch of,
Starting point is 06:36:45 of other ethnicities that no one it's ever heard of before out there as surf labor at best to create some kind of a some kind of a life the mining issue of course is the dominant one they certainly weren't going to be out going out there with picks um but again even they're getting equipment out there uh was was going to be a very very difficult thing and so no preparation can you imagine they're jews So the whole thing was very absurd. And this is, I guess it's some of the reason why Stalin was considered anti-Semitic, even though this was a Jewish concept. Oh, and by the way, the Bidubist on flag is the rainbow.
Starting point is 06:37:30 Just figured I'd throw that in there. Except it's horizontal, not curved. The Kamsamal published the monthly OZET and pioneer delegations traveled around the country collecting for the Birobe and Biodobizan through resettlement. The hastily dispatched Jewish families were horrified by the conditions they met upon arrival. They moved into barracks at the Tikuncaya Railroad Station in the future town of Biodo Bidzon. Among the inhabitants were some who never left the barracks for the land, living off the
Starting point is 06:38:05 loans and credit they managed to obtain for making the move. Others less nimble lived in abject poverty. During the first year of work in Bido Bidzon, only 25 huts were built, only 125 hectares were plowed, and none were planted. Many did not remain in Bidon. 1,000 workers arrived in the spring of 1928, and by July, 25% of all those who arrived in 1928 had left. By February, 1929, more than half of the population had abandoned Bidon. from 1928 to 1935, more than 18,000 arrived, yet the Jewish population grew only by 6,000. By some calculations, only 14% of those Jews who resettled remained in 1929.
Starting point is 06:38:52 They returned either to their homes or moved to Karbrowsk or Vladivostok. So I wrote this a long time ago. I wrote that the resources that were sent along with them, there were few, but they were substantial. They were sent with enough timber, graphite, copper, iron. Everyone thought, legitimately it had tremendous potential. At the time, China was in such a state of disrepair. And, you know, economically speaking, they weren't going to do much about it, especially in the distance, very sparsely populated far north. the you know as I said the official propaganda didn't make a whole lot of sense
Starting point is 06:39:38 you know of all places the far east the border of China this Jewish renaissance Yiddish never Hebrew Yiddish renaissance was supposed to take place I mean there was also a sense if it grew large enough security buffer against China although I don't know how a tiny handful of Jews would act as a buffer against anyone but it was the official position the Soviet government at the time.
Starting point is 06:40:07 Actually, the mining issue goes back to the late 19th century. American mining firms were exploring the Far East for gold, and several American firms, it should report in 1905 that stated that that precise area, there's a huge gold vein that when cultivated, would make whoever owned it extremely powerful. several reports were submitted to Moscow in the 1920s the lowest estimate was 8 million tons that was the reason that was the main reason
Starting point is 06:40:40 there were not only a tripwire for any action against the gold mines they could act almost as a international alarm system for Jews internationally if anything ever happened to them Charles Janine was the point man of the American mining interest of the USSR and even the Tsar's empire before that he was also in contact
Starting point is 06:40:59 this same man with Meyer Rothschild who was somewhat connected with this idea. Let me read from someone else here. In June of 1918, the British firm Hooper Speaking Company, acting for Orth Goldfields, requested the war trade board in Washington permit them to export dredge parts from the U.S. to Siberia.
Starting point is 06:41:21 The situation outlined by the firm was typical of several on which Zennian was involved. Company operated two dredges in Colchon, each of Siberia, with G.S. Dyer of Oakland, California, in charge. Both dredges were of American manufacture, one made in Yuba, California. The district was free of German influence and remote from Bolshevik armies. The dredge parts in question would be shipped from San Francisco to Kobe, Japan, then to a lot of Ostokk, and then there. And then Charles Janine from San Francisco would handle all the arrangements.
Starting point is 06:41:51 I had forgotten entirely that Rothschild was a part of this to some extent. Now, it's also true that Chinese miners were expelled from the area. So, you know, now when Japan, they didn't realize that Japan conquered the area. Any action from Japan or nationalist China would create this international outcry that would mobilize governments the world over if anything happened to the Jews there. It was pretty diabolical. The companies at different times were Booker's company in Milwaukee, the American Goldfield. development company, Orsk Goldfields, Goldchand, Gold Dredging Company,
Starting point is 06:42:33 Lentgoy a mining company, Lena Goldfields, we've talked about already, Tihui mining company, the Ion Corporation and Karga Goldfield. Now, most of these, of course, were foreign. And some of them made the statement to the American government and elsewhere that the Russians, quote unquote, will become big players in gold production and in fact even dominate the field. That is why they chose this speck of southern Siberia to be the Jewish state. Now, I found something from January 6, 1912.
Starting point is 06:43:12 I won't quote it, but essentially saying this is going to be incredible. Hundreds of millions of tons of gold, they're saying this was the elite, as I listed, the elite of the mining world. By the way, this is the same mining companies that help the Soviet Union build their own mining, not just out there, but in, More populated parts of the empire. But once they got everything out there, they found very little gold. I mean, they found a little gold, but not in large amounts. This was estimated by, again, that elite group, those were the top mining firms in the world. But even by 1939, 25% lived outside of cities.
Starting point is 06:43:54 They simply refused to work the land. We all know. We all know that. they use local mining experts but Soviet Union had gotten rid of its its best miners and technicians the brain drain from the from the Civil War and afterwards
Starting point is 06:44:11 they needed to bring the West in so mining is one of many areas where Western Capital helped create the USSR in this case it failed but ultimately its foundation was 1934 under Stalin So, you know, in terms of numbers, it was a total, total, total disaster. The Soviet government could pay for everything, land, transportation, farming implements, all of that were free.
Starting point is 06:44:40 I said the same thing, you know, Zarniglas. You know, but I think there were a tiny handful of Jews that had surf labor farming the land out there. They simply didn't know how. There were 18,000 Jews. A few years later in the reason at this point, and then half of those are leaving. And, of course, as we all know, preparations were terrible. The housing stock was even worse than the Soviet norm. Transportation was spotty at best.
Starting point is 06:45:13 In 1941, there were 100,000 people in the autonomous area. Jews made up no more than 16% of that figure. And that was the peak. That was the highest point of their Jewish presence. in that area. So of 100,000 people, 16% was our highest. In 1959, it was 9%, 1970, it was 7%. By the fall of the Soviet Union, there were about 9,000 Jews in the area of Bribistan.
Starting point is 06:45:45 Argentina, Lithuania, the U.S., they were the biggest foreign donors to help build socialism in the Far East. At the time, it wasn't such an obscure issue. And every Jew knew about it. Every Jew was debating its merits. at the time you know they wanted to make the place seem like paradise in their propaganda
Starting point is 06:46:04 but even there there were a few takers Soviet propagandists had to figure out a way of communicating the idea that this would be a promised land once the gold mines get going and Soviet jewelry could dictate the price
Starting point is 06:46:20 of gold to the world now yeah 1926 was the first to express the former proposal for Biro Bist on a project, but also said that outside of the mining, the land was unsuitable, you know, for most people. You know, and it just goes to show whether it be Crimea or Bidivistan, even though Jews dominated the party in many ways, they still, it wasn't enough for them. They still needed their own totally racially pure center. you know, what is the big promoter?
Starting point is 06:46:58 Lazare Kaganovich, the man who slaughtered, God knows how many, the man who dominated the purges, one of the most prolific genocidal maniacs in history.
Starting point is 06:47:09 You know, Stalin was no, were not anti-Jewish by any means. He, he was a big promoter of the idea. So,
Starting point is 06:47:19 you know, and that's, you know, I could keep going on. I don't want to, you know, take up too much. much time, but I wanted to bring up my paper and talk about it, because it is such a bizarre
Starting point is 06:47:32 experiment that failed miserably, but that is the reason, and I am the very first. I'll repeat myself here. I am the very first to discover the real cause to the point where all those mining companies, and I mentioned, you know, they went so far as to say, whoever's in this area, they're going to be able to dictate the world that there's so much gold here whoever controls it can dictate the the world's gold price kind of like how the beers dictates the diamond price in southern Africa Lauren who devotes no small number of reasoned and impassioned pages to the building of Jewish agriculture sniffs that an unhealthy fuss had been raised about bit of bids on a utopian settlement of a million Jews
Starting point is 06:48:19 resettlement was practically presented as a national obligation of Soviet Jews, Zionism turned inside out, a kind of back-to-the-provence movement. While international Jewish organizations provided no finances for Bidobizan, from the beginning, considering it too expensive and risky for them, more likely the Western Jewish organizations, Agrojoint O.R.T. and E.K.O. could not support the distant project beyond the Urals. It wasn't a Jewish plan, but a scheme of Soviet authorities eager to tear down and build life an new in the country.
Starting point is 06:48:55 To the extent that it ever reached your typical Jew in, you know, Kiev or Gomel, whatever, it was popular because it was a place to escape if the Soviet Union turned on them, or if it was overthrown. No, it's not its main purpose. The so-called religious elements, the synagogue system, they were perfectly fine there. There were synagogues everywhere at their peak. They were not penalized for observing the Sabbath or feast days, anything else. I've seen police reports of rabbis performing all the services, even out in public on holy days.
Starting point is 06:49:33 Nothing's ever done. The Soviet was atheistic for everyone but them. But, of course, Judaism is perfectly consistent with atheism. Now, we already talked about this irrational anti-Semitism within the party. And that's another reason that being so far away, might be a nice nice place
Starting point is 06:49:56 to escape because Crimea was too was too close so there was after 1945
Starting point is 06:50:06 there was a small boom of immigration roughly I don't know 40% of the Soviet economy was destroyed
Starting point is 06:50:14 mostly by Stalin himself so escaping European Russia was not the worst idea in the world
Starting point is 06:50:19 so if an anti-Jewish government could invade the USSR, living near the borders might not be such a great idea. You know, and it was, you know, this was, and what they created, the propaganda, I've seen some of it. You know, this is the paradise. This is maybe where the Messiah may come. You know, but remember, there was 100% freedom of movement for Jews in the USSR, the only group that had this privilege. Their internal passports throughout the Soviet era allowed them to go wherever they please
Starting point is 06:50:55 So there is no way No way that anyone would consider Stalin to be anti-Jewish He was a part of this However, the key issue Was that Yiddish was the Jewish language never Hebrew And this is why Hebrew began to die out If it wasn't for the establishment of Israel largely by Soviet pressure in 1948, that language may well have died out.
Starting point is 06:51:27 Let me see. This next section on the Yvesek is only about a page long. You want to knock it out? Or do you want to wait for the next episode? Well, we've been going. How long have you been going now? 45 minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 06:51:46 From the October revolution to the end of the 20s, the lives of ordinary Jews were affected by the actions of Yevsecs, members of the Yevsec, the Jewish section of the CK of VKPB. Besides the Jewish commissariat, an active Jewish organization grew up in the VKPB, as well from 1918, local organizations were formed in the Gubernayas. They created an environment fanatically inspired with the idea and ideas of communism, even more so, than was Soviet authority itself, and at times, these organizations even oppose Soviet projects. For example, at the insistence of the Yevsec, the Jewish commissariat decreed Hebrud to be a language of reaction and counter-revolution in early 1919, requiring Jewish schools to teach in Yiddish. The Central Bureau of the Yevsek was part of the CK of VKPB, and local Yevsecs operated in the former Palis settlement. quote, the purpose of the YevSex was communist education and Sovietization of the Jewish population in their native language of Yiddish.
Starting point is 06:52:53 You know, I don't read ahead. I don't know what's coming. This is all off the top of my head. But it's incredible how many times the next paragraph has what I just said. But Hebrew, because of the Old Testament, all this stuff, even though it had been modernized, yeah, it was supposed to die out. Yiddish was a revolutionary language, Hebrew, the reactionary one. From 1924 to 1928, responsibility for all Jewish education and culture was under the Jewish bureaus of the Republic-level administrative bodies, but these were abolished for excesses
Starting point is 06:53:30 and forced Yiddishization and more power accrued to the Yvesek. The activities of the Yves'ks in the 20s were contradictory. Quote, on one hand, they carried out active action. adjutop work and communist education in Yiddish and mercilessly battled against Judaism, traditional Jewish education, Jewish social structures, independent Jewish organizations, political parties and movements, Zionism, and Hebrew. On the other hand, it opposed assimilation with its support of the Yiddish language and a Yiddish culture and organizations of Jewish education, Jewish scientific research, and activity to improve
Starting point is 06:54:09 the economic status of Soviet Jews. In this, quote, the Yevsek often held a more radical position than even the Central Party bodies. Now, I know we all know this, but everyone listening or reading has to keep in mind that at this point was the height of the slaughter of Orthodox clergy and the burning down and destroying of churches. Tens of thousands of clergy were sent to the camps. and died in forced labor, especially way up north. Here's the, here's, you know, this stuff is being subsidized, and yet the Orthodox are being slaughtered. And as I said, the religion, so-called religion was not, was not banned.
Starting point is 06:55:05 Yeah, sometimes they didn't like it, but it certainly was consistent with Soviet ideas. And so they kind of left it alone. It was some of the more radical Jews themselves, as we read here, that fought it. But it continued to have full freedom. And God knows how many rubles they got in subsidies while Orthodox churches and monasteries were burning all over the empire. The anti-Zionist Yevsec was made up to a large degree of former Bundes and socialist territorialists, who were thought of as traitors or neophyte communists in VKPB. The purpose of the YevSSEC was to develop communist influence on Russian Jewry and to create a Jewish Soviet nation isolated from world Jewry.
Starting point is 06:55:53 But at the same time, its actions paradoxically turned it from a technical apparatus, urging the Jewish population to build socialism into a focal point for Jewish life in the USSR. A split arose in the Yveseck between supporters of forced assimilation and those who thought it works was a, its works, its work was a necessary means of preservation of the Jewish people. Does any of that make sense? How, how, to develop communist influence on Russian Jewelry? Well, you know, we've been over this already. This is ridiculous. And they were not isolated. Preaching to the choir. Yeah, what are they talking about here? And how in the hell would Yiddish mean assimilation
Starting point is 06:56:41 doesn't sound like Russian or Ukrainian to me and then at the same time then they say this is a necessary means of the preservation of the Jewish people well the Soviets never said that about anybody else this is just
Starting point is 06:56:57 this is absolutely bizarre yeah it's true so many of the the Soviet Union especially in the era of decolonization once the state of Israel turned on them. They got a much better, I mean, you know, Soviet Union was still practically burning.
Starting point is 06:57:16 And after World War II in the U.S., you know, who's going to make them a better deal? So, Zionism, as time went on, became more and more attractive. But to create a Jewish-Soviet nation, I don't know if that's propaganda for the outside world. I mean this was a huge hugely Jewish project Now of course we can't say entirely so Jews were a massive part of this You can't separate the two So I don't know what these people are talking about
Starting point is 06:57:50 The only thing I could see Is that once the Zionist idea began to build It was still post-Balfour declaration There was still a movement to go to the Middle East. Clearly after World War II, you know, things changed. And the Soviet Union was pretty much consistent,
Starting point is 06:58:18 consistently anti-Zionists, except for that period of time, after World War II for the, under the Stalinists, under Stalin. I don't think, I don't think he thought they would lose so many people that it was going to be very, small project, but, you know, urging the Jewish population to build socialism into a focal
Starting point is 06:58:42 point for Jewish life in the USSR. But, you know, this, you know, I could see this. I'm wondering, what year is this? This is almost, I'm thinking this was almost a, a propaganda operation for Westerners. Oh, Jews must not control the USSR if this is what they're doing. you know, that's the most sense I could make out of this, out of this garbage. The book of Russian Jewry observes with sympathy that the activity of the Yvesec still carried a clear and expressly Jewish stamp under the banner of the proletariat. For instance, in 1926, using the slogan to the countryside, the Yvesec came up with to the Stettel. This activity resonated widely in Jewish circles in Poland and in the U.S. the author further calls it a many-faceted Jewish nationalism and communist form.
Starting point is 06:59:36 That's in quotes. But in 1926, the CP halted the activity of the Yevsec and turned it into the Jewish Bureau. In 1930, the Jewish Bureau was closed along with all national sections of the VKPB. After that, the activity of the Yevsecs continued under the banner of communism. Quote, Russian Jewry lost all forms of self-expression, including communistic forms. Oh, boy. The end of the Yevsec symbolized the final dissolution of the Bund movement to allow a separate nationalistic existence even if it went against strict social democratic theory.
Starting point is 07:00:13 However, after the Yevsec was abolished, many of the former Yevsecs and Jewish socialists did not come to their senses and put the building of socialism higher than the good of their own people or any other good, staying to serve the party government apparatus. And that overflowing service was evident more than anything. whether statistically or using a wealth of singular examples it is obvious that Jews pervaded the Soviet power structure in those years and all this happened in the state that persecuted freedom of speech freedom of commerce and religion not to mention it's denigration of human worth and and the church the traditional church of the of the of the uh Russian Ukrainian
Starting point is 07:00:57 peoples um and any church wherever they went, Judaism, in this sense anyway, was, what, Russian Jewelry lost all forms of self-expression. This was their self-expression. They were not harmed in any way. It was only when Jews separated from the Soviet Union, like say in the very late 60s, early 70s, did the USSR really start you know, wondering that maybe, maybe, you know, Zionism is a, it really is a bad idea and Jews aren't our friends. And it fell shortly after that, although end up of head of the KGB was a Jew. It's not exactly a Jewish name, but he is, was. This is just, you know, I think what they were looking for is some place where Jews can be 100% of the population. Anything else was
Starting point is 07:02:06 a pogrom to them. The people who abolish the sex were Jews. You know, all Yiddish speakers. It didn't just abolish itself. They said, you know, Stalin, Stalin. Stalin. was surrounded by Jews and we'll get to get into this later in the book which this is probably one of the best sections we get into the Stalinist era that the man was surrounded by Jews his daughters married Jews he um and Jews thrived and prospered um throughout the the Stalinus are up to 19 1953 um it was a far better time uh for them than much later when they when they simply left and then took over the country again in 1991. So this is really, it's contradictory, it's confusing.
Starting point is 07:03:07 And, and, you know, Jews are receiving tons of money and subsidies. It's all these people talked about half the time. And what was going on with the Orthodox, a handful of Catholic churches too, especially because they had a foreign head. you know, we're being burned to the ground. This is, and they think that a pogrom is when, is when they can't have a racially pure area. This is, this is the mentality here in early, early 30s, USSR Jews, Soviet Jews. All right.
Starting point is 07:03:46 We'll pick up right from this break on the next episode. I encourage everybody to go over to the show notes and go over to the description. in the videos and uh donate to dr johnson's work um it looks like he's finishing up one book and i think he's working on four or five others at the same time i don't even know i couldn't tell you that's hardly an exaggeration either maybe it's not so so please go donate to dr johnson's work and um we'll be back in a couple days with uh part 89 thank you dr johnson talk to you soon my friend I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson.
Starting point is 07:04:32 Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I discovered something recently. If you look up the band Suicidal Tendency on YouTube, even if you specify an album or a song or say it's a band, you get all of this, you're not alone, hear all the phone numbers before you get. So, you know, my profile now must think I have this problem. Thus by looking, so it really, and the same thing goes for Google. So when you guys, you know, just be prepared for this.
Starting point is 07:05:09 I tried to make it. It's a band. Here's a song. Here's the album. It didn't matter. Those two words were in it. And that's all the, the system cared about. So be careful.
Starting point is 07:05:19 I wonder what happens if you try to pull up the band's up. The what? The band death. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one of those bands years ago, I never, I never got into them. Not just there's anything wrong with them, but you can't get into everyone, you know. There's always going to be bands that fall by the wayside for whatever reason. A lot of my friends were fans, you know, but, you know, you can't, you know, there were so many, especially back then.
Starting point is 07:05:46 Are they still around? Are they still touring? The guitar player died like 25 years ago. I don't know if they're I don't know that they can even tour without Chuck so yeah it's uh yeah but um I've been forner Farner Farner is touring with zero original members that's that makes no sense whatsoever absolutely ridiculous Boston is touring with one guy you know Tom mm-hmm well Brad Dump died I mean he well he yeah he unfortunately killed him yeah had suicidal tendencies one of the great one of the great vote
Starting point is 07:06:23 vocals, a vocalist in all rock music, as we all know. I've been on a, um, all of the catalog, Judas Priest, um, journey lately. Yeah, I have phases. I go just like that. It depends on what's going on, uh, what I'm into. I had an overkill one because they're from New Jersey. They're awesome. And, uh, that, that ended. And I'm kind of in between now. So, uh, well, I started with suicidal. It's been so long since I listen to them. And yeah, so now apparently my profile in Google has that mentioned. So Overkill is the bands I've seen more than any other live. Yeah. Oh, I've seen them before too. I've seen them at Capitol Theater. Did I see that? I don't know. At LaMores in Brooklyn,
Starting point is 07:07:11 I'm probably dead. I don't remember. Way back when. I saw so many bands there. Really? 20 times. Yeah. I saw him with Exodus one time. All right, we can talk about music all day. Maybe we'll do that one day and just we'll advertise it as a 200 years together episode and then just talk about music. I think people are entertained by it. I think people like it. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 07:07:38 Beekerman and Pazmanic paint a very gloomy picture of the state of the Jewish culture in the USSR in 1923. All is torn up and trampled underfoot in the field of Jewish culture. All foundations of a nationalist Jewish culture. is shaken, and all that is scared is stomped into the mud. S. Dubnoff saw something similar in 1922 and wrote about rueful wreckage and a picture of ruin and the progress of dark savages destroying the last remnants of a bygone culture. I mean, it's not like they were directly targeted, but I don't know what Jewish
Starting point is 07:08:14 culture means. You know, I don't know who he's talking about. There's all these different groups. they're you know they're acting as if they were they're being attacked they were not but I guess so many Jews realized that you know the money the power was with with Soviets or on the left and that's where they all went but and this is this was you know Zionists were depending on which group you're talking about Zionists were always iffy with the USSR You know, Stalin tried to square that circle.
Starting point is 07:08:50 He was the force that founded Israel, even at the UN, as I've said many times in 1948, but then he realized that so many of his best people are leaving. That didn't really worry the Soviet Union until the late 60s and early 70. However, Jewish historiography did not suffer destruction in the first 10 years after the revolution, as it is attested to by the range of allowed publications. Government archives, including those from the Department of Police, opened after the revolution, have given Jewish scholars a view on Jewish participation in the revolutionary movement, pogroms, and blood-libble trials.
Starting point is 07:09:36 The Jewish Historical Ethnographical Society was founded in 1920 and published a two-volume material on the history of anti-Jewish pogroms in Russia. The society later came under attack from the Yevsek, and it was abolished in 1929. The journals, the Jewish news, and the Jewish Chronicle were shut down in the mid-20s. S. Dubnov's Jewish antiquity remained in publication, even after he left the USSR in 22, but was closed in 1930. The Jewish ethnographical museum functioned from 1916, but was closed in 1930. And it was closed by Yvesic. was closed by other Jews
Starting point is 07:10:18 I don't off the top of my head know the reason you could probably speculate and be correct but you know I don't know if worrying about you know so-called pogroms you know it's endless victimization
Starting point is 07:10:31 from them at the same time they're destroying the Russian nation the Russian church and any manifestation of Christianity anywhere except those those handful of groups that they, if they controlled, I don't know if this is deflection or
Starting point is 07:10:53 they're so narcissistic collectively that doesn't even bother them. Everything revolves around them. I think the latter may at least in part be true. In the 1920s, Jewish culture had two divergent faiths, one in Hebrew and one in Yiddish. Hebrew was strongly repressed and forbidden as authorities sought as a carrier of religion and Zionism. Before the consolidation of Soviet power in the years 1917 to 1919, there were more than 180 books, brochures, and journals in Hebrew, mostly in Odessa, but also in Kiev and Moscow. The feeling that the fate of Hebrew was connected with the fate of the victorious communist revolution held in the early 20s among young people attempting to create a revolutionary literary, literary tribune. under whose banner they hope to unite the creative strength of world Jewry. However, at the insistence of the Evsec, Hebrew was declared a reactionary language,
Starting point is 07:11:53 and already in 1919, the People's Commissariat of Education had forbidden the teaching of Hebrew in all educational institutions. The removal of all Hebrew books from libraries had begun. Yiddish culture fared much better. Yiddish was the language of the Jewish masses. According to the 1926 census, 73% of Jews listed Yiddish as their mother tongue, and other source cites a figure of 66%. That is the Jewish population could preserve its culture in Yiddish. Soviet authorities used this. If in the early years of Soviet power and Bolshevism, the opinion prevailed that Jews should
Starting point is 07:12:36 discard their language and nationality. Later, the Jewish Commissariat of the Narcomat of Nationalities, the Yevsec and the Jewish sections of the Republican Narcomatso of education began to build Soviet culture in Yiddish. In the 20s, Yiddish was declared one of the official languages of Bilo-Rusia. In Odessa of the 20s and even the 30s, it was a language of many government institutions with Jewish hours on the radio and court proceedings in Yiddish. Well, you know, I know we belabor this point so often, but this is yet one more piece of evidence about how Jewish the party was.
Starting point is 07:13:17 Again, remember, I had a discussion with someone recently that I had made the argument that Yiddish contains many Turkic elements. And I was challenged on that. And I realized that, you know, there's many dialects and variants of Yiddish all over the place. In Ukraine, you will, you do have Turkic elements. not up north. It's more heavily dramatic. But the fact that, you know, you already have an official language here, this internationalist movement, and the fact that in Ukraine, you had entire government institutions where it was spoken almost exclusively.
Starting point is 07:14:08 So, but to this day, I mean, I have a sense, and it's going to come up, of what in the hell Soviet culture is you know socialist realism I guess it's something that they had to invent from the ground up
Starting point is 07:14:25 and it's just like Soviet patriotism which sometimes Vladimir Putin falls into that was typical of his generation although you know he came up in the generation where Jews had abandoned
Starting point is 07:14:42 the Soviet Union, and so you had a much more room for Russian nationalism, and people don't understand why so many nationalist groups had looked to the party for assistance. But at that time, in the 80s, it made a certain amount of sense. But Soviet culture was so artificial and absurd, and clearly, the Jews had a enormous role in its creation. A rapid growth in Yiddish schools began in 1923 throughout the Soviet Union. Beginning in 1923 and continuing through 1930, a program of systematic Yiddishization was carried out, even forced upon Jewish schools in the former pale of settlement. Many schools were switched to Yiddish without considering the wishes of parents. In 1923, there were 495 Yiddish schools with 70,000 Jewish children. In 1928, there were 900
Starting point is 07:15:37 schools and in 1930, they had 160,000 children. This can be partially explained by the fact that Ukrainians and Belarusians at this time received full cultural autonomy and saw Jewish children as potential agents of Russification. Jewish parents didn't want their children in Ukrainian or Bilovacian schools and there were no more Russian schools. They had no choice but to go to Yiddish schools. They did not study Jewish history in these schools. Instead, there was class war, and the Jews. Just as in the Russian schools, there was no study of Russian history or any history, only social sciences. Throughout the 20s, even those few elements of a specifically Jewish education were gradually driven out of Soviet Jewish schools. By the early 30s,
Starting point is 07:16:24 the autonomously functioning system of Soviet Jewish schools had been officially done away with. Yeah, the key phrase there is, there were no more Russian schools. That's the one ethnic group that was attacked. Lennon and Stalin wrote on destroying any sense of Russian, the true Russian culture, which revolves around the church. You can't have Russian culture without the church. And keep in mind, too, that the Soviets also tried to simplify and manipulate and change many aspects of the language. the Russian that I learned, whenever that was 20 years ago, I struggle with some of the much older, even 200 years ago, the orthography and everything else. It's very different. The Soviets did this all over the place. You know, because they, even though it was the language of the Russian people in general, it still had, because like everything, it had connections with the church and theology. So, you know, the Chinese did it with their characters, too.
Starting point is 07:17:38 So it is more, it is simpler now. But the phrase, there were no more Russian schools, that's the key element. That's the genocide we're talking about here. I think they did study Jewish history, just, you know, within the Soviet context, which I don't think anyone had a problem with. that was in power at the time. From 1918, there were independent Jewish schools of higher education. Enu, Jewish People's University, until 1920 in Moscow, PENU and Petrograd, which became Petrograd
Starting point is 07:18:19 IVEZ, Institute of Higher Jewish Learning, one of whose founders and later rector was Semyon Lazinsky, boasting a number of distinguished scholars among faculty and large number of Jewish graduates. Supported by joint Ives functioned until 1925. Jewish divisions were established at Educational Science Departments at Bailorussian University 1920 and at second Moscow State University 1926. Central Jewish C.P. School teaching in Yiddish was established in 1921. Jewish educational system included special educational sciences science technical colleges and more than 40 industrial and agricultural training schools so as russian schools are shut down they're building and of course subsidizing specifically jewish schools of all types
Starting point is 07:19:14 um you know with the yiddish language but it just shows you who's in charge here Jewish culture continued to exist and even received no small encouragement, but on the terms of Soviet authorities. The depths of Jewish history were closed. This took place on a background of the destruction of Russian historical and philosophical sciences, complete with arrests of scholars. So many of them were forced to leave. Solzhenitsyn, I think, despite everything, they could have killed them, but he was too well known. They just dumped them off in the West. But he's now hitting the point very hard. But again, I'm not sure what Jewish culture is. Because Jewish atheists, and I think
Starting point is 07:20:08 the overwhelming majority of Jews are atheists in one form or another, they could still use all the so-called religious things, you know, Yom Kippur and all that. but as a form of ethnic consolidation and solidarity, not necessarily religion. And that's a key distinction to keep in mind here. Jewish culture of the 20s could more accurately be called a Soviet proletarian culture in Yiddish. And for that kind of Jewish culture,
Starting point is 07:20:44 the government was ready to provide government. And for that kind of Jewish culture, the government was ready to provide newspapers in theater. Forty years later, the Book of Russian Jury gives a less than gloomy assessment of the cultural situation of Jews in the USSR in the early Soviet years. In Moscow, the worldwide Jewish telegraphic agency, ETA, continued to exist into the 40s as an independent unit, the only such agency in the Soviet nation that did not come under TASS, sending communications abroad, of course subject to Soviet censorship.
Starting point is 07:21:20 Newspapers were published in Yiddish, the main one being the House Organ of the Yvesek, the Moscow, Der Amos, from 1920 to 1938. According to Dementstein, there were 34 Yiddish publishers in 1928. Yeah, I like the censorship. The Jews completely dominated the censorship boards in the USSR. I don't like making a huge distinction between the party and the state on the one hand and Jews on the other. They were so intertwined by this point. It's very hard to separate them.
Starting point is 07:22:03 Again, there's only so many Jews in the world. And this really only applies to Belarus, Ukraine, and parts of Western. the western part of the empire. But because of the freedoms that Jews were given far more than anyone else, they were setting up shop all over the place now. So people who had no connection with them before, now were learning what they were really like up close. Yiddish literature was encouraged, but naturally with a purpose,
Starting point is 07:22:42 to turn Jews away from an historical Jewish past. to show before October as a gloomy prologue to the epoch of happiness and a new dawn, to smear anything religious and find in the Soviet Jew the new man. Even with all this, it was so attractive to some prominent Jewish writers who had left the country that they started to return to the USSR. Poets David Goffstein, always suspected of harboring nationalist sentiment, and Laib Vitko, easily accommodated to Soviet environment, and became a prolific poet, returned in 1925.
Starting point is 07:23:19 Perez-Marcich easily understands the needs of the party in 1926. Moses Kolbach and Dernister, the real name of the latter was Pinkos Kaganovich. He later wrote the novel Mashpur family characterizes the most un-Soviet and liberal work of Jewish prose in the Soviet Union, returned to 1988. David Berglson returned to 1929. he paid tribute to those in power, the revolution has a right to cruelty, where he, Marquish, and Vitgo were to experience themselves in 1952. Well, this tells you a lot of what, you know, this is something else we should bring up in argument. Jews abroad saw the USSR as in some sense the promised land.
Starting point is 07:24:11 This was a place where we can flourish. so you have people who had kind of went into self-exile now returning. You had Jews who had never stepped foot in that part of the world moving to the Russia or the Soviet Empire, realizing that they could probably, I don't know, they could be head of the Air Force in a couple days the way they seem to run the offices here. And that's very, that's extremely, I think Jewish history, what they may mean, is the religious sense of the term. The fact that Jews were always persecuted for no reason,
Starting point is 07:24:51 I think that was always part of the curriculum. But always, of course, you know, it's going to be in a very secular, done in a very secular way. But again, as I've said before, the so-called Jewish religion is, as Moses has proved and spent his life proving, fully consistent with the doctrine of the Soviet Union. The bourgeois Hebrew culture was suppressed. A group of writers headed by H.N. Beulik left for Palestine in 1921.
Starting point is 07:25:23 Another group of Hebrew writers existed until the mid-30s, occasionally publishing in foreign journals. Some of these authors were arrested and disappeared without a trace while others managed to escape the Soviet Union. Regarding Jewish culture expressed in Russian language, YevSex interpreted it as the result of government directed efforts to assimilate Jews and Tsarist Russia. Among those writing in Yiddish, a split between proletarian writers and companions developed in the mid-20s, like in Soviet literature at large. Majority of mainstream writers then switched to the Russian language. Yeah, I mean, if they wanted to sell books, that's what they had to do. The concept of assimilation was absolutely out of the question.
Starting point is 07:26:13 you know, it's one of these things where sometimes they would speak either Hebrew or Yiddish at home and Russian, depending on where they live. But I love the idea of where was it up here, the concept of, yeah, Jewish culture of the 20s could more accurately be called a Soviet proletarian culture in Yiddish. There were so few Jews that could actually be called proletarians. it just goes to show that these in my book on the topic of the Barnes Review published my book on the topic goes to great lengths to show that these terms are absolutely meaningless bourgeoisie proletariat these were manipulated solely for political expediency as we always talked about it before here and so be very careful when they use these terms the Western press would just hear you know probably propaganda coming out of the USSR and they write it all, oh, okay, you know, without any criticism or anything. But of course, Stalin got rid of some of the old Bolsheviks. We've talked about that. We'll talk about it a little bit, I don't know, I think in the near future. And since the Bolshevik movement was so Jewish back then, it appeared to be an anti-Semitic
Starting point is 07:27:32 movement, but it certainly was not. The Jewish chamber theater in Yiddish and Moscow flowered since 1921 at a high artistic level with government aid. In 1925, it was transformed into the state Jewish theater, Gosset. It traveled through Europe and became an unexpected representative of Soviet power in the eyes of world Jewry. It made fun of pre-revolutionary ways and religious life on the Stedal. Michels excelled as an actor and in 1928 became the director. The history of the Hebrew's theater, Gabimah, which began before the revolution, was much more complicated. Originally supported by Lunasharski, Gorki, and Stenslovsky, it was persecuted as a Zionist nest by the Yevsec, and it took a decision by Lenin to allow it to exist.
Starting point is 07:28:27 Gabima became a government theater. It remained the only outpost of Hebrew in the USSR, though it was clear it had no future. The theater critic A. Kugel said it had departed from Jewish daily life and lost its Jewish spirit. In 1926, the troop went on a European tour and did not return, disappearing from history soon after. You know, when you read Sultan Eatson's, you know, semi-fiction, like the Red Wheel or Cancer Ward, a lot of his characters clearly are with you know Jewish names or otherwise described with Jewish features are like this they're they're simply they conformed they did whatever it was necessary to you know sell books and they didn't really care so
Starting point is 07:29:18 much about ideology so long as it meant you know dead Gentiles or more Gentiles in in the gulag and you know talent was not important what mattered was your connections with the party and your willingness to conform
Starting point is 07:29:38 no different than your typical white male professor in academia right now he conforms himself sometimes to an extreme degree so he will be accepted within academia as a whole because they're watching him
Starting point is 07:29:53 He's not going to get tenure if he seemed to be reactionary in one way or another. So remember, anything that gets shut down by Yevsevsech is a Jewish group. So this isn't, you know, the party Jews saw Jews outside of it sometimes is, you know, but this is, remember, a small minority cared about Hebrew, really. It was almost dead, I was almost a totally dead language until the foundation of Israel and 1948 kind of resurrected it, although I think the Jews in Jerusalem always maintained it. But I'm not sure about that, but there were a tiny minority as well. So it's Jews deciding, you know, what Jewishness is, what essentially is their country. By contrast, the government Yiddish theater was a real boon for Jewish theater arts in USSR. In the early 30s, there were 19 professional Yiddish theater groups, with a training school
Starting point is 07:31:00 at Gosset in Moscow and Jewish dramatic art studios in Kiev, Minsk, and Moscow. Here it is worth remembering the posthumous treatment of the ill-fated Jewish Goghsevich. His book episodes published in 1926, satirizes revolution era Jewish bourgeois. He died in 1927 and in 1928, the Soviet censor bans his play Simca, the rabbit-hearted based on his earlier book. As an anti-Boisois work, it should have been fine, but taking place in a Jewish setting and making fun of the stupidity, cowardice, and greed of its subjects, it was banned because of fears that it would cause judaophobic feelings. All right, that's my comment on that.
Starting point is 07:31:52 In the meantime, what was the condition of Zionist organizations in the USSR? They were fundamentally incompatible with communist authority and were accused of international imperialism and collaboration with the entente. Because of their international standing, the Soviets had to deal carefully with them. In 1920, the Evesec declared a civil war on the Jewish. street against the Zionist organizations. Repression of Zionism deepened with the ban on Hebrew. However, anti-Zionist pressure did not exist anywhere and was not sufficiently severe. That is, long-term imprisonment and exile were relatively rare. In the spring of 1920, right-wing
Starting point is 07:32:31 Zionists were frightened with the rest, but on May 1st were amnestied. The dual policy of the crime, keep in mind, keep in mind that you know, even when these groups were banned or forced to disband or even members arrested didn't mean very much. This was not the case with Orthodox people. Anyone deemed a Russian nationalist. Long-term imprisonment was the norm. But when it comes to the Jews, you know, they'll tell you, see, the Soviets were anti-Jewish too. You know, it was Jewish, Jews, imprisoning Jews for short time and amnestied, even right-wing Zionists. It can be, you know, yes, they are incompatible to a great extent.
Starting point is 07:33:21 Although Moses Hess is someone, I don't know, he was widely read at the time. I think he was. But maybe he wasn't even permitted. But even when these guys got arrested and sent to jail, it was for a very short time or amnestyed right away. But it's important to note, as he does here, that they had to tread lightly. You know, they needed, they were very image conscious. They were powerful Jews that had supported them in England.
Starting point is 07:33:57 And, you know, being some repressive, quote unquote, against the Jews may lead to a reaction from them. So they had to be very careful what they can do. And that was part of the reason. Well, the Russians, of course, they didn't give a damn. You know, they can be wiped out. It didn't matter. But the Jews, of course, had full control of so many institutions in the West at this point. Remember, too, that Zionist groups were a tiny minority. Really was only after World War II that it really took off.
Starting point is 07:34:28 The dual policy of the Kremlin was apparent in its discussions with representatives of the World Zionist Organization. Shisharan did not dismiss out of hand. It's the latter's solicitations as the Soviets were not yet ready to denounce Zionism once and for all, as had the Yvesek. The more so since, from the beginning of NEP, lessening government pressure gave Zionist groups breathing space. Interestingly, Zürzinski wrote in 1923 that the program of the Zionists is not dangerous to us. On the contrary, I consider it useful. and again in 1924, principally we can be friends with Zionists. The Central Zionist Bureau existed in Moscow from 1920 to 1924.
Starting point is 07:35:16 In March of 1924, its members were arrested and only after much pleading from within the country and from overseas was exile to Central Asia replaced with exile abroad. In 1923, only two officially permitted Zionist organizations remained. Poit de Zion and the legal portion of the youth organization, Gekaus, whose purpose was agricultural colonization of Palestine. They saw experience with collective farms in the USSR's preparation for this. They published a journal from 1924 to 1926. Even the left wing of the Zionist Socialist Party,
Starting point is 07:35:55 Zerai Zion, youth of Zion, adopted a sharper tone vis-à-vis the Bolsheviks. And when the arrest in 1924, through those shortened duration, became more widespread, they went underground. The underground movement was finally dispersed only in the 1920s, in the late 1920s. Well, I think Dersinsky's opinion was a pretty common one. Poli-Zion, if you remember, our earlier discussions, was a group that had Moses Hess as their center, for the most part. But when the Soviets pleaded for the establishment of Israel in 1948, they did establish what was more or less collective farm system, the kibbutz and others. And they always had pictures of Stalin in their workshops and everything else.
Starting point is 07:36:50 And those didn't come down until, so I've heard, those didn't come down until the 1970s. Jewish blood will not oil the wheels of revolution, an organizational slogan of the movement. conveys the sense of the underground Zyre Zion with its significant youth organizations in Kiev and Odessa. Regarding the government, they formally recognized Soviet authority, but at the same time declared opposition to the dictatorship of the Communist Party. Much of its work was directed against the Yevsec. In particular, they agitated against the Crimean Resettlement Plan, seeing it as disturbing their national isolation. From 1926, the party weakened and then disappeared. There was a wave of arrest of Zionists from September to October of 24. Some of those arrested were tried in secret and given sentences of three to ten years in the camps.
Starting point is 07:37:46 But in 1925, Zionist delegates were assured by the C.I.K. of VK.P.B. Sminovich and the Subnarkham, Rikov, and the GPU, that they had nothing against Zionists as long as they did not arouse the Jewish population against Soviet power. And I think that was the key. That really, that says it all at this point. I think the worry, yeah, there were some Jews that worried about simply the, you know, the pure dictatorship of one party, despite its substantial Jewish elements, there may come a day where that can turn on them. And we've already seen, you know, members of the party not liking Jews very much, Gentiles, of course, not liking Jews very much. Gentiles, of course, not liking Jews very much because the privileges they received, among many other things.
Starting point is 07:38:39 I guarantee you that these three to ten years in the early camps, yeah, and here we go, Lenin created those. Stalin didn't create those. It's in 1924. You know, Lenin was on his way out, but they certainly predate Stalin. So, again, the number of Jews in these groups was fairly small, but the ideology is what they worried about. And it wasn't until after World War II, the Soviet victory over Germany, did minds change there. And actually, in the early years, the first year or two of Israel, it was elements in the U.S. that were far more worried about its establishment and recognition than Stalin, because they were very upset that it may turn the Arabs against them,
Starting point is 07:39:38 and they had oil interests there and everything else. For the Soviets, it didn't matter. They were a backward people, as they were officially called. Deep Hasmanic suggested in 1924 that Zionist, Orthodox, and nationalist Jews should be in the front ranks of those fighting alongside Soviet power in the Bolshevik world. worldview, but there was no united front and no front rank. In the second half of the 20s, persecution of the Zionists was renewed in the exchange of prison sentences for exile abroad was sharply curtailed. In 1928, authorities dissolved.
Starting point is 07:40:16 That until then, quasi-legal Poliz Zion and liquidated the legal Gakalus closing its farms. almost all underground Zionist organizations were destroyed at that time. Opportunities to leave declined sharply after 1926. Some of the Zionists remained in prison or were exiled. Yeah, I think the opportunities to leave, I think that was connected to Russians. Jews, being the smugglers that they always were, had no problem with it. But not only were they not leaving, you know, But you had many Jews migrating to the USSR from all over the world.
Starting point is 07:41:04 But destroyed, all that means is that they were liquidated. They were killed, murdered. The worst that ever happened to them was that they went into exile. The mass attraction of young urban Jews to communists in Soviet culture and programs was matched with no less stubborn resistance from religious Jewry and older Jews from the former pale. The party used the rock of the Yves'iq to crush and suppress the resistance. One only has to be in a Jewish city such as Minsk or Vibtipsk to see how all that was once worthy in Judaism, respected and worthy of respect, had been turned upside down, crushed with poverty, insult,
Starting point is 07:41:49 and hopelessly in how those pushed into higher places. are the dissolute, frivolous, arrogant, and brazen. That's all a quote. Bolshevik power, quote, become the carrier of terrible ruin, material, and moral in our Jewish world. The mass of Jewish Bolsheviks on one hand and of Jewish NEP men on the other
Starting point is 07:42:13 indicate the depth of the cultural collapse of Jewry. And if radical healing from Bolshevism among the Russian people is to come from a revival of religious, moral, and nationalist life, then the Jewish idea must work for that also in their lives, end quote. So when the Russians would do this, I mean, they had been broken by this point, they were simply shot, and I have quotes from Lenin and the early Stalin giving instructions in this regard.
Starting point is 07:42:46 but but there is a good point here there were a certain number of Jews who realized that regardless of the power that Jews have in the Bolshevik state that they're making some ridiculously stupid economic decisions that there is famine everywhere and it's their own fault putting Jews in charge of a group of collective farms is is suicide that you did have poor Jews, Jews that were affected by this, by these stupid and ridiculous decisions, just like anyone else. So there was some reason to oppose it, despite the fact that it was, you know, the F. Second. It did ruin a lot of people.
Starting point is 07:43:39 But all they care about is the Jews that were ruined. Russians were ruined en masse. But there was some legitimate reason for Jews, not necessarily just older ones. And I think that division is exaggerated. And we've actually talked about that in the 1905 Revolution 2. We did that, was that 10 years ago? We did that. There was some legitimate, yeah, there's some legitimate reason to say that this is not going well.
Starting point is 07:44:11 And work they did, but indicators vary as to. degree of intensity and success. A near contemporary considered, quote, Jewish society turned out either to have no rudder and no sale or was confused and in this confusion spiritually turned away from its sources, in contrast to Russian society where there was still some resistance, albeit clumsy and unsuccessful. I'm not sure if he's referring to peasant uprisings, which were almost exclusively Russian Ukrainian
Starting point is 07:44:45 especially Russian especially in the distant areas of the empire he might be but anything Russian anything specifically Russian was banned and
Starting point is 07:45:01 completely destroyed in the way that we normally use the word destroyed clumsy and unsuccessful that's probably true it was desperate and these are the reasons why when Germany invaded you had so many millions of Russians and Ukrainians saying thank God for this liberation, at least for a while.
Starting point is 07:45:27 From the end of the 20s to the beginning of the 30s, the Jews abandoned their traditional way of life on a mass scale. In the past 20 years, Russian jury had gone further and further away from its historical past, killing the Jewish spirit and Jewish tradition. That's all a quote. And a few years later, on the very eve of World War II, quote, with the ascension of Russia of the Bolshevik dictatorship, the fight between fathers and children in the Jewish street had taken a particularly bitter form.
Starting point is 07:45:59 Yeah, keep in mind, that's not necessarily because the older generation was against Soviet power. you could be in favor of Soviet power and yet still condemn many of the things, economic things that they were doing. Every Jew realized that they were in charge here. And again, when someone says Jewish tradition, I think that they just mean like the various rituals. I mean, no synagogue was ever shut down. They would really have to be, you know, doing something insane for that to happen. but that's a matter of policy. I mean, you have fathers and sons debating things now,
Starting point is 07:46:42 but that doesn't mean they reject the American system of government. You know, they certainly supported it. And even the state policy of atheism didn't bother them. Again, because the overwhelming majority of Jews then and now are atheists. and their, again, that's perfectly, their system, their religion is perfectly consistent with it. That doesn't mean they accepted every aspect of it and every decision that was made in Moscow. It was recently there was a case where a Jewish guy had kidnapped and tortured some woman out West, and that was highlighted on Twitter, and a couple of the very activist Jews on Twitter said,
Starting point is 07:47:28 well, he's not a real Jew because he's not religious. And the question I wanted to ask was, okay, then tell me how many Jews died in the Holocaust. Taking stock a half century later, M. Agerski reminisces in Israel that the misfortunes that befell Jews after the revolution to a large degree were brought on by the renunciation by Jewish youth of its religion and national culture. The singular, exclusive, influence of communist ideology. The mass penetration by Jews in all areas of Russian life and of Soviet leadership in the first 20 years after the revolution turned not to be constructive for Jews, but harmful. Finally, an author in the 1990s writes, quote, Jews were the elite of the
Starting point is 07:48:19 revolution and on the winning side. That's a peculiar fact of the Russian internationalist socialist revolution. In the course of modernizing, Jewry was politically Bolshevized and socially Sovietized. The Jewish community as an ethnic, religious, and national structure disappeared without a trace. Jewish youth coming to Bolshevism were intoxicated by its new role in influence. For this, others too would have gladly given up their nationality. But this turning from the old ways internationalism and atheism was not the same as assimilation to the surrounding majority, a centuries-old Jewish fear. This was leaving the old, along with all other youth, to come together and form a new Soviet people. Only a small stream was truly assimilationist
Starting point is 07:49:08 in the old sense, like these people who converted to Orthodox Christianity and wish their own dissolution in the Russian culture. We find one such example, an attorney Y. Gurevich, legal defender of Metropolitan Vendman, during his fatal trial in 1922. you know despite the fact that the the church was in effect outlawed i mean it existed in certain place very hard to to shut down everything it was just so so large um you still had this trickle of of conversions but as i said a long time ago if you want to talk about assimilation in the true sense and become russia well they would have to be orthodox a Russian who's an atheist and claims to be a defender of Russian culture.
Starting point is 07:50:01 It doesn't make any sense. Russian culture is by its very structure. The letters in the alphabet, the cuisine, even the pattern of the Rusniki and all these other things, they all have religious elements to them. And the same thing goes for Ukraine, whose culture in the West was different, closely related, but different. But you did have always had a trickle of conversions. Remember, the Soviet Union always kept kind of a handful of churches open. So when they brought churchmen from the West over, they could see.
Starting point is 07:50:45 They'd have priests up there with big smiles. And Stalin essentially created his own church in 1944, creating the Moscow Patriarchate, which, you know, it's hard to get there, you should hear when they, when Stalin died, the obituaries they wrote about what a Christian man he was, it's sickening, but that was the only kind of legal orthodox there was. And they continue to exist throughout the rest of, even though, you know, persecutions were consistent. So, but when you say the ethnic, religious, national structure disappeared without a trace, well, so much of that wasn't necessary anymore. You know, ethnicity, these are structures of survival, as I've termed, that's my term, for why nationalism is so important. But given the fact that they were running a show to a great extent, a lot of these things weren't needed. this was this was their country no obviously not every single jew is going to agree
Starting point is 07:51:57 uh with that no our country is only in uh in israel because i honestly believe that they were the same people who you know wrote the psalms but um uh to you know i think the typical jewish point of view was that we don't need these anymore that's when we were in exile well i don't think we're in exile anymore i think we've created our own promised land. What is your take on this quote here from the book in English? It is The End of Lies, Rufeland and the Jews in the 20th century by Sonia Margulina, that
Starting point is 07:52:36 Jewry was politically Bolshevized and socially Sovietized. Oh, yeah, we just, yeah, we said that here. It makes me chuckled just a little bit because Bolivism and, in the Soviet world was to a great extent their creation. It was, you know, so I hate the idea of separating the party from jewelry because they were just so significant. And it didn't matter. They don't have to be a majority.
Starting point is 07:53:08 They just have to have just enough. And they're so fanatically cohesive. They could take over the whole thing without, you know, necessarily being a majority. of course it goes both ways but we talk about you know so-called bolshevik culture which is almost sound ridiculous to say that it's an anti-culture
Starting point is 07:53:31 like you know the American culture is an anti-culture that was as much of Jewish as anything else yeah of course the old the old timers are going to be worried you know they could turn on us or something even even party members don't like us Gentile party members don't like us, anything could happen. But I think the key element is that they were intoxicated by their new role and influence.
Starting point is 07:53:58 They're not giving up their nationality. That was never the case. Again, depending on how you define nationality, they were always the separate people, even in a country run by a huge number of their co-religioners. They still wanted a separate state, Crimea, but it would be as well. done where they could make sure that only Jews, only Jews live. All right. Two paragraphs when we come to a natural break.
Starting point is 07:54:27 Okay. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes of Jewish workers in the party and government apparatus of economic, scientific, and even military organizations and institutions that most did not hide their Jewish origins, but they and their families quickly absorbed Russian culture and language and being Jewish lost its cultural content. Yes, the culture which sustained them suffered Soviet men was created, but the decades which followed showed that a remnant of Jewish self-awareness was preserved and remained. Even in the flood of the internationalism of the 20s, mixed marriages between Jews and Russians or Jews in any non-Jew, as measured from 1924 to 26, were only 6.3% of the total marriages for Jews in the USSR, including 16.8% in RSFSR, but only 2.8% in Bilo-Rusia and 4.5% in Ukraine.
Starting point is 07:55:23 According to another source on average in USSR, 8.5% in RSSR, FSFSR, 21%, in Bialurcia, 3.2%, and in Ukraine, 5%. Assimulation had only begun. Yeah, and that was the whole thing. That's just what I said. There was no conception of them. there was no demand for them to give up their nationality, whatever that might be, however that might be defined. You know, that's the, that's a clear issue.
Starting point is 07:55:58 I don't even know what cultural content means in this regard. I don't know what about what Russian culture that they're absorbing. I get the language part of it. I guess it's just, you know, food and things like that, ways of speak jokes. I don't know. But certainly Russian culture is orthodox. at its foundation. So it's being used in a very sloppy sense here.
Starting point is 07:56:24 You know, well, this is Jewish encyclopedia, but the lack of mixed marriages was, tells you everything. The same thing for the U.S. today. All righty. We will pick up on episode 90 in a couple days. I want to encourage everyone to go over to the show notes. and go to the description on the video and donate to Dr. Johnson's work.
Starting point is 07:56:53 All the links are there that you can do that at. And yep, that's it. As always, thank you, Dr. Johnson. This was a good one. I appreciate it. No, thank you. And I know when my book on the Ukraine War comes out, you're going to promote the hell out of it,
Starting point is 07:57:08 and I appreciate that in advance. Not a problem, definitely. Definitely people need to, I was going to say people are getting half the story, but they're not even getting half the story. Yeah, that's right. We want to talk about a couple days here now, so. Yep. I'll talk to you.
Starting point is 07:57:25 Take care. All right, my friend. Bye-bye. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of Alexander Solzhenitson's 200 years together. Episode 90. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? You know, we mentioned this already, but I was just, you know, it bothers me that for, shower, washer, and dryer and refrigerator, there's an app for it.
Starting point is 07:57:48 I can't imagine what use that is, or what kind of information is being sent to God knows who. But it's just, it's something that it doesn't really serve much of a purpose as far as I can see. So it, I have to admit, it bugs me a little bit. Although, to be honest with you, I never minded, you know, if, you know, our opponents are listening in. You know, I love that idea because, you know, this is probably the only truth they ever hear. I never had any problem with that, you know. I always thought that was a wonderful thing if someone's tapping in, law enforcement or whatever. I said, well, good.
Starting point is 07:58:29 Thank God. I don't say anything, you know, illegal or wrong. And that's probably the only good things, only intelligent things they hear all day. So I have no problem with it. Yeah. No, when we bought the house, it came. with like a generation old stuff that isn't quote unquote smart and um perfectly happy with that and we just replaced we had to replace a dishwasher and just replaced it with the next generation
Starting point is 07:58:58 of the same model nothing nope i don't need any of that i mean it just i don't know just seems like more stuff to more stuff to break you know yeah more moving parts uh it's it's ridiculous but thank God I have nothing to do with any of that stuff well I have the refrigerator but my wife takes care of the laundry thank God so I don't have to worry about it but it does seem ridiculous to me all right picking up where we left off last time page 451 of 656 we're actually going to get this done one day I well I mean I believe it when I see it
Starting point is 07:59:38 All right, here we go. And what was the status of the Jewish religion and the new conditions? Bolshevik power was hostile to all religions. During the years of the hardest blows against the Orthodox Church, Jewish religious practice was treated with restraint. Really? In March, 1922 Dharamos noted that the Department of Agitprop of the Central Committee would not offend religious feelings. In the 20s, this tolerance did not extend to Russian orthodoxy, which the authorities considered one of the main enemies of the Soviet order, end quote.
Starting point is 08:00:19 Nevertheless, the confiscation of church valuables extended to synagogues as well. E. Yaroslavsky wrote in Izvestia an article titled, What Can Be Taken from a Synagogue? Often rabbis will say there is nothing of value in a synagogue. Usually that is the case. The walls are usually bare, but minores are often made of silver. These must be confiscated. Three weeks before that, 16 silver objects were taken from Jewish preaching house on Spasso-Gleneshevsky Avenue and in the neighboring coral synagogue, 57 silver objects and two of gold.
Starting point is 08:00:59 Yaroslovsky further proposes a progressive tax on those who buy costly seats in the synagogue. Apparently, this proposal went nowhere. Sorry. Yeah, I bet you people don't realize that you buy seats there. I forget about that from time to time. You know, you know someone doesn't know what they're talking about or who does virtue signaling when they say, a lot of neocons are like this.
Starting point is 08:01:26 They'll say the Soviets tried to destroy the Orthodox Church. They shut down churches and synagogues and Islamic. places of worship and all that you know you know they don't know what they're talking about or they're trying to very few synagogues were damaged taking a menorah is no big deal
Starting point is 08:01:51 and yeah that was a period of desperation during the famines early on they weren't demolished they weren't sent to the camps you know and half the time
Starting point is 08:02:07 you know, a lot of them were already part of the Soviet state. And that, you know, it implies that they treated, because I never considered Judaism to be a religion. I barely consider Islam to be a religion. It's, you know, it's an ethno political doctrine with some religious symbolism, which really holds them all together. You know, they have their, you know, metaphysics and stuff like that, but, you know, you have a handful, I think, of the most extreme, you know, rabbis who may, who may believe in God, but for the most part, it's material, even, even, you know, in Christ's day, the Sadducees were, were materialist.
Starting point is 08:02:50 There was no God there. What they did was for public consumption, as we know, and the New Testament says it all the time, especially the Pharisees. That was just to, you know, gain popularity. God is often themselves. God is often the unsoft or the or the Nietzschean flux that, you know, they have to imprint their ideas on as they fix it. You know, God is the demiurge which created a faulty earth. They don't worship that God by any means, but their job is to fix it and to repair it, as we all know, coming straight from the Kabbalah. any religion that has God reading the Talmud, you know, their sacred text standing.
Starting point is 08:03:40 In other words, he is inferior to the words of the text of the Talmud. Well, you know, there is no God there then. These are not the Israelites of old. We are the Israelites of old. We are, you know, the defenders of the Old Testament. We are the ones, our church fathers have, we're the only ones who have the right. to interpret the Old Testament, the prophets, and the historical books and the rest of it, because the Kabbalah had completely misinterpreted them completely out of existence.
Starting point is 08:04:16 And keep in mind that, you know, the Talmud has the prophets burning in hell along with Christ because they, well, their whole world was criticizing Israel, sometimes in the most vehement sense. I mean, Christ, you know, followed their lead. in doing the exact same thing. The prophets were extremely harsh. So, but as far as this goes, the synagogue were not damaged. They were not repressed. I'm sure some of the Kabbalists weren't that happy with the pure materialism,
Starting point is 08:04:53 but that didn't lead to any kind of real, real, real, any kind of clashes. But Sultan Eastern is right. this is probably the worst that happened. However, functionaries from the YevSec demanded of authorities that the same policy applied towards Christianity to be carried out towards Judaism. In the Jewish New Year, 1921, the Yevsec orchestrated a public trial of the Jewish religion in Kiev. The Book of Russian Jewry describes this in other show trials in 1921 and 1922.
Starting point is 08:05:28 There was a court proceeding against a hater, a traditional elementary school with instruction in Hebrew in Vitebsk against a yeshiva, a Jewish school for study of the traditional text, the Talmud, the Torah, and the rabbinical literature, in Rostov, and even against Day of Atonement in Odessa. They were intentionally conducted in Yiddish, as the Evsec explained, so that Jewish Bolsheviks would judge Judaism. Yeah, so in other words, they, in public, they would, use Yiddish, but to the extent that anything was closed down because they were using Hebrew.
Starting point is 08:06:10 And that was the real issue. The Soviet, the progressive language according to Soviet Jews, remember, Yevsek is Jewish, is Yiddish, certainly not Hebrew. Hebrew is reactionary and would remind people maybe of the, of, of, of the old ways, and they can't have that. Religious schools were closed by administrative order, and in December 1920, the Jewish section of the Narcumad of Education issued an encyclical about the liquidation of haters and yeshivas. Nevertheless, large numbers of haters and yeshivas continued teaching semi-legally or completely underground for a long time after that. In spite of the ban on religious education,
Starting point is 08:06:58 as a whole, the 20s were rather a liberal period for Jewish religious life in the USSR. It seems that any decree to close down a yeshiva was propaganda. It was just to say, see, we go after Jews too. It's not just the Christians here. But it was never really enforced. They continued to function. The Hebrew issue was the only one. And it was a period of actually.
Starting point is 08:07:28 in fact, and it shall be to get to this a bit later, that it's a period of growth for this kind of Jewish teaching at the time. But always keep in mind, this is the F sect. These are Jews, judging Jews. And so, yeah, they may say it might be on paper that they're shutting this down or shutting that down. No one went to the camps or anything like that, but it was only on paper. And they continued to function normally. At the request of Jewish laborers, of course, there were several attempts to close synagogues, but this met with bitter opposition from believers. Still, during the 20s, the central synagogues were closed into Vitebsk, Minsk, Gommel, Karkov, and Brabursk.
Starting point is 08:08:16 The central Moscow synagogue of Maroseca managed to stay open thanks to the efforts of Rabbi Mays in the face of Zerzinski and Kalinan. In 1926, the choral synagogue in Kiev was closed, and children's Yiddish theater opened in its place. But the majority of synagogues continued to function. In 1927, 1,34 synagogues and prayer halls were functioning in Ukraine, and the number of synagogues toward the end of the 20s exceeded the number in 1917. So, again, this is all on paper. This would be something like the Soviets going to,
Starting point is 08:08:55 the Orthodox Church and saying we demand that you do the liturgy in modern Russian rather than Slavonic or going to the Catholics and saying we demand you do it in modern Russian rather than Latin that seems to be the issue here the language seemed to be the main problem but when they shut down
Starting point is 08:09:23 Orthodox parishes which by now now hundreds, if not thousands, were in the early 20s already, had been shut down in the precinct, God knows where. This is one of the things that caused the rebellion of the peasantry. They did everything in their power to keep them open. And as a result, many of them were shot. They shot back. There was a firefight.
Starting point is 08:09:48 Something tells me that was not the case with synagogues. And clearly here, as I said, they, they. grew in numbers. The Jewish population grew in this period of time in the central Jewish areas in Belarus and Ukraine. Authorities attempted to institute living synagogues based on the model of the living church imposed upon the Russian Orthodox Church. A portrait of Lenin was to be hung in a prominent place of such a synagogue. The authorities brought in red rabbis and communized rabbis. However, they failed to bring about a split among the believers, and the vast majority of
Starting point is 08:10:28 religious Jews were decisive against the living synagogue, bringing the plan of Soviet authorities to naught. Russian Orthodox people know what the living church was. It was a bit of a joke. It was a church structure created by the Soviets. It was very liberal in many things. of course things were done in modern Russian you know bishops didn't have to be celibate it was against monasticism you know fasting wasn't wasn't necessary and they had
Starting point is 08:11:04 liberal bishops you know that were that were placed in charge of it unfortunately the patriarch of Constantinople recognized and accepted the living church and in fact condemned St. Ticon, you know, the patriarch, and the overwhelming majority of the Orthodox people in Russia for not supporting it. And just like in this case, the living church was a miserable failure. I will point out, too, that the Communist Party also founded several right-wing anti-communist churches, Orthodox churches. The Gregorians were one of them. And they were very good at this. And that's how they figured out who was who, and they'd have a bishop go out there and condemn the Soviets in public. And, of course, that's how they knew who they needed to go after.
Starting point is 08:11:59 So remember, these Jews were masters at this kind of thing, as far as psychology goes. And so they had, they tried, they manipulated both sides. But at this point, the true church had, was, depending on the year, was either dead. an exile or underground, the so-called catacomb church, which became quite large, actually, over the next few decades. And sometimes they'd be found out, but we have, you know, underground synods, underground bishops. And in the 90s, they came out from underground. They had tremendous authority. But, of course, the first thing they did is reject the current Moscow Patriarcharchic, because it does come from.
Starting point is 08:12:46 the Stalinist era in 1944, and unfortunately that's what caused tremendousism continuing to this day because you have, you know, you had hundreds of thousands of people, maybe more, coming out from underground. They have names like, you know, the true Russian Orthodox Church, this kind of thing. The numbers were far larger than anyone realized. But the living church was a miserable failure. no one went and and people kind of knew what was going on the fake right wing ones were briefly successful but it was just very strange that they were openly preaching these things you know like we know when someone goes into a forum one of our forums and starts preaching violence we know what he's doing we know who he's working for we know that he's a he's a fraud and we kick him out
Starting point is 08:13:40 immediately. And this was kind of the same mentality here. And so that was eventually abolished, too. So I don't know if they did this with the synagogues, but that's what the Soviets were doing to manipulate religions. But the living synagogue, you know, it was just a very liberal synagogue. It was perfectly normal, but of course it was in everything was in Yiddish. So, you know, it was not nowhere near the same thing. I don't know if you still had to pay for a seat. But, you know, this was just, it was totally politicized. And, you know, sitting dogs are politicized to begin with. But this was so blatant and so ham-handed that that failed as well. At the end of 19, at the end of 1930, a group of rabbis from Minsk was arrested.
Starting point is 08:14:33 They were freed after two weeks and made to sign a document prepared by the GPU agreeing that One, the Jewish religion was not persecuted in the USSR, and two, during the entire Soviet era, not one rabbi had been shot. Authorities tried to declare the day of rest to be Sunday or Monday in Jewish areas. School studies were held in the Sabbath by order of the Yevsec. In 1929, authorities tried the five-day work week and the six-day work week with the day of rest upon the fifth or six-day respectively. Christians lost Sunday and Jews lost. the Sabbath. Members of the Yevsec rampaged in front of synagogues on holidays, and in Odessa broke into the Brodsky Synagogue and demonstratively ate bread in front of those fasting and praying.
Starting point is 08:15:22 They instituted community service days during sacred holidays like Yom Kippur. During holidays, especially when the synagogue was closed, they requisition Talas, Torah scrolls, prayer shawls, and religious books. Import of Mata from abroad was sometimes a lot. allowed and sometimes forbidden. In 1929, they started taxing Mata preparation. Laren notes the amazing permission granted to bring Mata from Konigsberg to Moscow for Passover in 1929. You'll have mainstream authors, you know, they will, you know, speak very honestly about the persecution of the Orthodox Church. But of course, they have to then cherry pick and list this kind of thing, as if it mattered. None of it mattered.
Starting point is 08:16:08 amazing permission, meaning I can't believe they're allowing this to happen. Well, they didn't really see Judaism as religion, and they certainly saw them as allies, plus the fact that so many members of the party probably knew half the congregants there. And yes, sometimes we forget. I go into some detail on this in my book, the Soviet experiment, that Stalin had ended Sunday. So it was a labor shortage. You know, he was industrializing with Western capital. And, you know, labor exploitation was gone through the absolutely, absolute roof. The rest day, you know, was also on paper. And, of course, they tried to do the same thing with Jews. But again, that was on paper. As far as the Christians were concerned, that it was not on paper. They absolutely went through with. it. So mainstream writers will list all of this saying, you know, it wasn't just the, see, this proves that it wasn't a Jewish party, not saying that, number one, the Yvessek was doing all of this.
Starting point is 08:17:20 And even when they did anything, you know, arrests, whatever, it didn't go anywhere. And signing the document here, Jewish religion was not persecuted, okay, that's true. And during the era, so entire Soviet era, so what, from 1920 to 1930? Not one rabbi had been shot. That's probably true as well. In the 20s, private presses still published Jewish religious literature. In Leningrad, has seeds managed to print prayer books in several runs, a few thousand copies each, while Katznelson, a rabbi from Leningrad, was able to use the printing house Red Agitator. During the 1920s, Jewish calendars were printed and distributed in tens of thousands of copies. The Jewish community was the only religious group in Moscow, allowed to build religious buildings.
Starting point is 08:18:17 A second synagogue was built in Vichelis-Slavis alley near Sushesky embankment and a third in Cherkazov. These three synagogues stayed open throughout the 30s. and the 30s were, you know, the persecution, the Orthodox Church went through, you know, it was went in waves. Stalin did not stop the persecution at any point, but there comes to a point where there was really no one left. The underground church was really all there was. But the Jewish community was the only religious group in Moscow allowed to build religious buildings. Why would that be? The only reason that that could possibly be is that the party was Jewish.
Starting point is 08:19:11 And this went throughout the Stalinist era as well. I have paper after paper after paper and my book as well. Stalin was not nice to the Orthodox Church at any point in time. He was not a royalist, like some idiots want to argue, including academics. But sometimes the persecution would lessen largely because the main main. people were already dead or in exile. And the persecution was consistent. And then under Khrushchev, it went up again because a new generation was coming around.
Starting point is 08:19:47 So they reduced the world's second largest church. The Roman church was the largest, of course, to almost nothing by the time the Germans invaded in 1941. The first thing the Germans did was permit, well, among other things, was to permit the reopening of these churches. And it's one of the things that made them so popular in Ukraine especially, but also Belarus and elsewhere. But young Jewish writers and poets gleefully wrote about the empty synagogues, the lonely rabbi who had no one to teach and about the boys from the villages who grew up to become the terrible red commissars. and we saw the Russian members of Kamsamol rampaging on Easter Sunday, knocking candles and holy bread out of worshippers' hands, tearing the crosses from the cupolas, and we saw thousands of beautiful churches broken into a rubble of bricks, and we remember the thousands of priests that were shot and the thousands of others who were sent to the camps. In Orthodoxy, they were called the New Martyrs. The new martyrs, sometimes new mortars of the Soviet yoke.
Starting point is 08:21:03 These are people who refused to give in. They fought the police, whoever was trying to take over the church. Were they Russians? You know, the artwork at the time, and even some of the photographs of the time, show people who do not look Russian to me. Those in charge of destroying the Orthodox Church were absolutely not Russian. They did not have Russian names. and they were very enthusiastic about all of this.
Starting point is 08:21:31 And I should note, the same thing is going on in Ukraine today. You have an entirely Jewish government who, on some ridiculous pretext, that any Orthodox Church connected to Moscow, well, they're all connected to Moscow in one way or another, is going to be shut down. They can come up with any reason. It's just whenever Jews get power at a certain level, that's one of the first things that they do.
Starting point is 08:21:57 is trying to destroy the church whenever they can, and by any means, by any means necessary. Thousands of priests were shot, sent to the camps. I think those sent to the camps really wished that they had been shot, especially if they were sent up north. And it's something that Sultanated, of course, knew firsthand. In those years, we all drove God out. Now, why did he say that? We all drove. You know, there's, I read the literature, you know, Russian language literature on, on why this happened.
Starting point is 08:22:33 Why did the revolution occur? Why were the white armies unsuccessful? Why did people go along with it, you know, after, after the fact? And, you know, you have, you have a hundred, you know, thousands of answers to this. But the we, you know, there's a group of a very pious, very good Orthodox people who say, you know, we didn't do enough. The upper classes were totally secularized by 1900. We should have done more. So many of us just simply took it for granted.
Starting point is 08:23:08 You know, there's always going to be there. The church is always going to be there. You know, it's not like the communists at the time. We're going around saying this is what we're going to do when we take power. They would never say that in public. That was an esoteric doctrine just they knew. And that because they took it for granted, because that many
Starting point is 08:23:28 maybe they're simply falling away that's why this was allowed to happen and they don't all believe that but that was a common concept amongst the emigrades in the 30s right up until the end of the USSR and that's why he used that we all drove God out
Starting point is 08:23:44 because all of Russia bears a certain responsibility for that not him personally but that's not what he means and to a great extent, you know, Tsar Nicholas, as he said just before he was murdered, he said, you know, if I have to be the sacrifices for all of Russia, then that's what I'll be. And so to a great
Starting point is 08:24:08 extent, the new martyrs, that blood was a means to atone, so to speak. And there is many churchmen in Russia who hold to that view today. From the early Soviet years, the path for Jewish intelligentsia and youth was open as wide as possible in science and culture, given Soviet restrictions. Olga Kameneva Trotsky's sister patronized high culture in the very early Soviet years. Already in 1919, a large number of Jewish youth went into moviemaking, an art praised by Lenin for its ability to govern the psychology of the masses. Many of them took charge of movie studios, film schools, and film crews. For example, B. Shumyatsky, one of the founders of the Mongolian Republic, and S. Dukulski, were heads of the main department of the movie industry at different times.
Starting point is 08:25:04 Impressive works of early Soviet motion cinematography were certainly a Jewish contribution. The Jewish Encyclopedia lists numerous administrators, producers, directors, actors, scriptwriters, and motion picture theorists. Producer Ziga Vertov is considered a classic figure in Soviet cinema, mostly non-fiction. His works include Lenin's Truth, Go-Sovietz, Symphony of Donbass, and the last three songs about Lenin. It is less known that he also orchestrated desecration of the holy relics of St. Sergis of Rodenas. In the documentary genre, Esther Shub, by Tendentious, Cutting, and Eccas.
Starting point is 08:25:46 editing of fragments of old documentaries produced full-length propaganda movies, the fall of the Romanoffs, 1927, and others, and later glorifying ones. Other famous Soviet names include S. Yutkevich, G. Kaczynssev, and L. Traubberg. Ehrmler organized the experimental movie studio. Among notable others are G. Rochold, the Skottenens, Y. Risman, hard labor camps, craving of earth, among others. By far, the largest figure of Soviet cinematography was Sergei Eisenstein. He introduced the epic spirit and grandeur of huge crowd scenes, tempo,
Starting point is 08:26:32 new technique of editing and emotionality into the art of cinematography. However, he used his gifts as ordered. The worldwide fame of Battleship Potemkin was a battering ramp, for the purposes of the Soviets, and in its irresponsibly falsified history, encouraged the Soviet public to further curse Tsarist Russia. Made up events such as the massacre on Odessa Steps scene, and the scene where a crowd of rebellious seamen is covered with tarpa, tarpaulin for execution, entered the world's consciousness as if they were facts.
Starting point is 08:27:05 First, it was necessary to serve Stalin's totalitarian plans, and then his nationalistic idea. Eisenstein was there to help. Well, I don't know what Shultzhenitsyn means by his nationalistic idea. I think he's going to clarify that as we go on. But even during the Civil War, these young Jews, they'd go into moviemaking, and they were aware of the propaganda value here. The right wing never understood that, or at least not until too late.
Starting point is 08:27:43 I watched a couple of these, the one on Dmitri Donskoy, who was a saint, was a very pious man. You know, it was well done, but, of course, the church was completely vilified throughout. I'm saying, why, they're going to make Dmitri Donskoy, you know, a prince of a great prince, a canonized man. How do they think? Well, they just totally secularized them. And I watched a couple of others over the years. They remind you of how Star Trek looked in terms of how they, the original series. That's what, that's what reminded me of.
Starting point is 08:28:25 But let me define a phrase here that's going to come up. Socialist realism. Socialist realism was the official aesthetic of the USSR and all communist countries. prior to the establishment of socialism art was a cry for help we were alienated things like fantasy and all of this this was an oppressed people
Starting point is 08:28:52 projecting their desires onto onto film now that paradise is here well no one needs to do that anymore so everything has to be purely realistic why are we going to have these flights of fans fancy. This is the workers' paradise. So everything had to be pretty normal and pretty
Starting point is 08:29:15 boring. Realism meant we depict people as they are. Literature was seen to have changed, you know, the mentality. And I get from the Soviet point of view, it would make sense. Well, we've created paradise. So why would we create fantasy movies? We are the fantasy or anything like that. So we just depict things as they are, which of course was utter propaganda, another nonsense, but that's the purpose of socialist realism.
Starting point is 08:29:51 There is nothing that we're reaching for. You know, a little bit of four about Coral Mark, so many others, an oppressed, alienated man is always projecting something, including God. They were atheists, of course. But that's only because they're oppressed. They're creating in their own minds and escape.
Starting point is 08:30:12 Well, they don't have to do that now. So now we have pure realism. And that's what socialist realism is. You know, there are some deviation. And it was pure propaganda. But you're not going to see. There's no reason anymore to have, flights of fancy
Starting point is 08:30:35 in poetry or anything else that's why you can have a whole movie about a factory and that's how much of it when that's what
Starting point is 08:30:45 socialist realism is it's just normal life everything as it is but of course it really wasn't like that but as the Soviet leadership thought it was
Starting point is 08:30:55 we are the fantasy we are the purpose of history it's all been accomplished so that means our literature is going to do is going to explain that to people.
Starting point is 08:31:06 I don't know if you saw this this week, but this Sarah Hurwitz person who used to write speeches for Obama, she said in front of a Jewish, like, foundation, you know, one of these Jewish conferences that, you know, when we taught, when we taught the goyam that about the Nazi genocide, that wasn't supposed to used against us for Gaza well yeah well she they someone found another one that is just a classic I'm you I mean I think we've talked about this before the forced into finance meme you know Jews you Jews couldn't because we couldn't own land we we had to you know they didn't want us to own land so they just let us run their money and everything you know so oh we were forced into finance, this same woman said that they were forced into Hollywood.
Starting point is 08:32:10 She made some argument about how, oh, because we were kept out of the legitimate arts and they didn't want us in the legitimate art community, we just started making movies. Well, it seems like making movies is kind of something that they jumped into. And the text that we see here, yeah, I mean, is it shocking that, you know, pretty much Russian Jews were the ones who took over Hollywood. Yeah, and yeah, of course. And that's exactly where they were from. And the agenda was very similar.
Starting point is 08:32:43 It's that we could say the same thing for Weimar Germany, something that, you know, it was shocking. It was, you know, G and PG movies make the money. But it doesn't matter. It isn't about money with these people. It's about propaganda. They know that these movies with, you know, black, snow white or whatever. it is. They know that these things are going to fail. It's true that they're testing the waters. They have income. They're already millionaires. They have income from many other sources.
Starting point is 08:33:13 They can, it is, they will lose money. They know that they're going to lose money. It doesn't matter. The agenda is far more important. They're already multimillionaires. It doesn't matter what happens. And people don't realize everything or they're just about profit for them. Now, yeah, to some extent, but it's also even more powerfully about ideology about their propaganda about humiliating white people, whoever it is that they're trying to humiliate. The first thing that they do, 1919, they rush to start making movies. And Lennon wrote about this at the time, he wrote about this even earlier, and he wrote about it later, right up until his death, how important the movies are, stage plays are, for propaganda. you know, you're, you know, people, people start thinking that this is reality.
Starting point is 08:34:08 You know, socialist realism was almost meant to convince people that this is really how it is. And you see it with their statues, you know, a man and a woman, very muscular man, strong woman, they have a frown in their face, holding the sickle, you know, classic, that's classic socialist realism, you know, strength, but they're just, they're just people. everything that all the other arts from the ancient Greeks to now was striving for have been accomplished with us we are the apagy we are the completion of world history
Starting point is 08:34:44 we are the completion of the Enlightenment and the Jews rushed in to promote this yeah they did take orders they usually took orders from other Jews but if you go to Lenin's collected works which are all online a million different places
Starting point is 08:35:00 places. He has many essays on the importance of cinema and anything like that. Stage plays literature for propagandizing people. And that's extremely important to them. And the Jews were, you know, pretty much had a monopoly on it. Though the Jewish Encyclopedia lists names in the arts by nationality, I must repeat, not in the nationalism does one find the main key to the epoch of the early Soviet years, but in the destructive whirlwind of internationalism, estranged from any feeling of nationality or traditions. And here in the theater, but close to authorities, we see the glorious figure of Meyerhold,
Starting point is 08:35:44 who became the leading and most authoritarian star of the Soviet theater. He had numerous impassioned admirers, but wasn't universally recognized. From late recollections of Tirkova, Vaizamaskaya, Meyerhold appeared, years as a dictator subjugating both actors and playwrights alike to his will by his dogmatism and dry formalism. Komisar Shavskaya sensed that his novelty lacks creative simplicity and ethical and aesthetical clarity. He clipped actors' wings, paid more attention to frame than to portrait.
Starting point is 08:36:23 He was a steady adversary of Mikhail Bulgakov. Of course, the time was such that artists had to pay for their privileges. Many paid, including Kachalov. A whole bunch of people. God, I can't. The talented producer of chamber theater and a star of that unique early Soviet period. In 1930, Tyroff denounced Prompartia in the party newspapers. You know, I have to remember, socialist realism was very,
Starting point is 08:37:00 very specific. You can't have actors or directors or anyone else going off and doing whatever they want. Therefore, you know, the producers, the main director, you know, they're taking orders from that bureaucracy. And really, there's no one with greater authority on this than Shultz needs it because he was obviously a literary man. And, you know, some of these people he had come across personally. And so, yeah, director, had to be a dictator because there was a specific reason why this thing, whether it be a stage play or a movie, is being made. And every actor, everyone, you're creating sets, directors of photography, all of them needed to know exactly what was going on. Therefore, it was a totalitarian,
Starting point is 08:37:48 a mini totalitarian system, even right there in the production studio. Artists Mark Shagel emigrated in 1923. Majority artists in the 20s were required to contribute to Soviet mass propaganda. There are some Jewish artists distinguished themselves, beginning with A. Lizitsky, who greeted the revolution as a new beginning for humanity. He joined a number of various committees and commissions, made first banner of all Russian Central Executive Committee, which was displayed on the Red Square in 1927. by members of the government.
Starting point is 08:38:26 He made the famous poster Strike Whites with the Red Wedge, designed numerous Soviet expositions abroad from 1927, and propaganda albums for the West, USSR, build socialism, etc. A favorite with the authorities was Isaac Brodsky, who drew portraits of Lenin,
Starting point is 08:38:45 Trotsky, and others, including Voroshulov, Frunz, and Budanyi. After completing his portrait of Stalin, he became the leading official portrait artist of the USSR in 1928. And in 1934, was named director of the All-Russian Academy of Arts. You know, I don't know about you, but I would not want the job of being Stalin's portrait painter. You know, if you're doing something, if you do something wrong, or if it doesn't look exactly what he wants, God knows what's going to happen to you. but I like the phrase
Starting point is 08:39:22 a new beginning for humanity you know we know what the Talmud says about the non-Jews this is a new beginning for Jews this was seen as a Jewish victory I mean everyone in this list with a handful of exceptions are Jews and it's also
Starting point is 08:39:45 so this is what this is what they're talking about This is our beginning. And, you know, most of us who, you know, people who are listening to this could probably picture your typical Soviet propaganda poster in their head. It has a very specific look to them. You see a lot of memes about it. And this was a beginning of it. These were the people who put that together. Classic realism.
Starting point is 08:40:11 I also like the idea that they're going off to the West and showing this off. You know, no problem. you know, the West couldn't do it in the USSR. But they were touring the Western world with all this stuff. This is a new beginning for humanity, not defining what humanity is. This is the workers' paradise. And this is at the beginning of the period of time where a huge portion of Western intellectuals began to think this is the wave of the future. and especially after World War II
Starting point is 08:40:46 this most certainly is the way of the future and intellectuals all over the Western world started thinking this and this is why, you know, to this day if you support Mao and a university no problem, you can write books and you get promoted, get tenure, it doesn't matter you start, I mean I got in trouble for supporting Franco or the government in El Salvador, let alone someone like
Starting point is 08:41:12 Hitler or you know not musulini I always make fun of but despite the fact that the communist you know murdered God knows
Starting point is 08:41:23 a really countless number doesn't matter to this day it's accepted and this was the beginning of it the West you know there was a whole Smithsonian just did a whole exhibition
Starting point is 08:41:34 on Rosa Luxembourg you know like it's like she's like you know know, and always, you know, just absolutely gushing about her. And it started then. Obviously, you couldn't do that in the USSR. So this was, you know, and if anyone knows about this, it should need to be, and he talked
Starting point is 08:41:58 about it at great length and many other publications, too. During the early years after the revolution, Jewish musical life was particularly rich. At the start of the century, the first in the world, Jewish National School of Music in the entire world, which combined both traditional Jewish and contemporary European approaches, was established. The 1920 saw a number of works inspired by traditional Jewish themes and stories, such as Youth of Abraham by M. Nesson, the Song of Songs by A. Crane, and Jewish Rhapsody by his brother G. Crane. In that age of restrictions, the latter and his son, Julian, were sent into
Starting point is 08:42:38 eight-year studying trips to Vienna and Paris to perfect Yulian's performance. Jews were traditionally talented in music and many names of future stars were for the first time heard during that period. Many administrators from music appeared also such as Matias Sikolsky Greenberg, who was chief inspector of music at Department of Arts of Ministry of Education and a senior editor of ideological music and Revolution. Later in 1930s, Moses Greenberg, a prominent organizer of musical performances, was director of state publishing house and music and chief editor of the Department of Music Broadcasting at the State Radio Studio. There was the Jewish Conservatory in Odessa as well. Leonid Utesov, Lazar Weisbane, thundered from the stage. Many of his songs were written by
Starting point is 08:43:33 A. Dijk-Tel. AP German and Y. Haidt wrote the March of Soviet Aviation. This was the origin of Soviet mass singing culture. Yeah, when it's applied to music, you get things like the March of Soviet Aviation. As I mentioned before, you know, a movie about a factory. Well, it's the same thing here. And Soviet music, which was Jewish music, they were, they were, you know, they were one in the same really at the time, you really couldn't deviate from
Starting point is 08:44:07 socialist realism, was meant to put forward the idea that the world would be a factory. And order was tremendous. Of course, they did some traditional Jewish melodies, too, and nothing, you know, Russian folk songs usually were banned, well, that was very hard to enforce, but not the case here. I'm not familiar with the Jewish Rhapsody or any of these things. What they promoted in the West was a totally different story, a tonality. And I strongly recommend E. Michael Jones Dionysius Rising, which I read in grad school, which he put out a long 90, 91, it's on Ignatius Press,
Starting point is 08:44:52 where he deals with music and revolution. And that really, you know, filled out my knowledge of the issue. and how important it is for propaganda. But he's just going through all the art forms and showing this, first of all, it's Judaic. E. Michael Jones will explain in great detail the psychological elements of how it affects, and he's specifically Western people to disorder and to reject Christianity to reject. I mean, but Coonan, the anarchist said, I mean, he thought that Beethoven alone could start a revolution because of the tremendous excitement and power of the music.
Starting point is 08:45:33 So just like anything else, music was now a former propaganda, and it was Judaic. All right, the two paragraphs to the break. Okay. Year after year, the stream of Soviet culture fell more and more under the hand of the government. A number of various state organizations were created such as the state academic council, the monopolistic state publishing house, which choked off many private publishing firms and even had its own political commissar, certain David Shermor Shernomornikov in 1922 to 23, and the State Commission for Acquisition of Art pieces de facto power over artist's livelihood. Political surveillance was established. The case of A.G. Glazinov, rector of the Leningrad Conservatory, will be reviewed below. of course jews were only a part of the forward triumphal march of proletarian culture in the heady atmosphere of the early soviet epoch no one noticed the loss of russian culture and that soviet culture was driving russian culture out along with it strangled and might have been names
Starting point is 08:46:41 one of the great in when you read sultan's novels he has at least one character that's a licksbiddle a talentless guy guy, could be a painter, could be a writer, who because he supports the regime, gets the money, gets the attention, is called a genius. And there are others who, you know, Russians who, of course, reject socialist realism, who not only don't get any chance to publish or anything else, but end up in the camps. So Sultan Isan had a particular hatred for that. And if there's, you know, one place where that's imitated, it's the U.S. People who are considered genius, people who are considered talented, and the people who are actively repressed in the arts, not necessarily put in a camp, but forbidden
Starting point is 08:47:37 to earn a livelihood. It's very similar. The Soviets is just more ham-handed about it. And so this created, as far as artwork we're concerned, it could be painting, could be literature, could be anything else. people with minimal talent who were promoted because they supported the regime and true geniuses
Starting point is 08:48:00 who ended up, God knows where, sometimes in exile, who didn't get anything. And of course, Solton Eastern had a particular hatred for that group of people. And he had plenty of characters in his book that,
Starting point is 08:48:15 that, you know, he's very clear they became well known only because either they were, They added the Jewish name. They supported the Soviet Union, and they kept this socialist, realist vulgarity throughout their career. And that's the only reason that they're promoted. All right.
Starting point is 08:48:34 We'll pick this up. I think on the next episode, we're going to finish the chapter. This has been the longest chapter in the book so far. And it should be. And this kind of thing, we're just getting started here. This gets heavier and heavier and heavier. We're not even into the Stalinist area yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 08:48:53 All right. Everybody go over to the show notes and go over to the description in the videos and donate to Dr. Johnson's work. He's working on 17 books at the same time right now. So we need to keep him flush so he can get those done. But as always, thank you, Dr. Johnson. And I'll talk to you in a couple days. All right, my friend. time.

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