The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 10

Episode Date: February 8, 2025

61 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson c...ontinue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 So thank you for the support. Head on over to freeman beyond the wall.com forward slash support and do it there. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 10 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyessen, Dr. Johnson. How are you doing today? Well, you know, among many other things, it occurred to me that this is part 10. We're on page 54 of a 656 page doc.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's the first thing. The second thing for our listeners is that I'm getting, when I bought this house, the roof, needed to be fixed and it's being fixed right now. And of course, at precisely when we begin recording these illegals, I think they're illegals, are out there right outside my office door. So far, so good. I haven't heard, I mean, window. I haven't heard anything. I hear them. I don't know what they're doing. But if you hear hammering, I'm not sure what we're going to do, but maybe we could treat it as a as a as a symbol of some kind yes yes it will be it will definitely be divine i think at this point we can uh or or this happening in yeah yeah hit in episode 10 um that
Starting point is 00:04:54 this that this would start happening yes but um i think it's just a matter of uh it's just a plain old matter of scheduling and um i told you i had had banging going on in this house about an hour ago. So, yeah. Right. The good kind or the bad kind? Oh, the bad kind. Yeah, yeah, the bad kind. Yeah, I say hammering, so there's no, there's no mix up. Okay. Okay. Be careful. All right. Chapter three. I'll start reading and we'll go and see and if the, if hammering or starts, we'll work through it and, laugh about it. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 All right. Chapter 3, during the reign of Nicholas I. With regard to the Jews, Nicholas I was very resolute. It was during his reign, according to sources, that more than half of all illegal acts relating to Jews, from Alexis Mikhailovich to the death of Alexander II, were published,
Starting point is 00:05:59 and the emperor personally examined this legislative work to direct it. Jewish historiography, has judged that his policy was exceptionally cruel and gloomy. However, the personal interventions of Nicholas I did not necessarily prejudice the Jews, far from it. For example, one of the first files he received as an inheritance from Alexander I was the reopening on the eve of his death, while on his way to Tegaron, Teganrog of the Velaide affair, the accusation against the Jews for having perpetuated a ritual murder on the person of a child. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that to a large extent,
Starting point is 00:06:42 the Jews were indebted to the verdict of acquittal to the emperor who sought to know the truth despite the obstruction on the part of the people he trusted. In another well-known case linked to accusations against the Jews, the assassination of Mrs. Slav, the emperor willingly turned to the truth after having, in a moment of anger, inflicted sanctions against the local Jewish population, he did not refuse to acknowledge his error. By signing the verdict of acquittal in the Velaherk case, Nicholas wrote that the vagueness of the requisitions had not made it possible to take another decision, adding, nevertheless,
Starting point is 00:07:21 I do not have the moral certainty that Jews could have committed such a crime or that they could not have. repeated examples of this kind of assassination with the same clues, but always without sufficient evidence, suggest to him that there might be a fanatical sect among the Jews, but unfortunately even among us Christians, there also exists sects just as terrifying and incomprehensible. Nicholas I and his close collaborators continued to believe that certain Jewish groups practice ritual murder. For several years, the emperor was under the severe grip of, calumny that smelled of blood.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Therefore, his prejudice that Jewish religious doctrine was supposed to present a danger to the Christian population was reinforced. You're going to see a bit of a shift in this era. There's always that naivete. But Nicholas I was a bit more realistic about Jewish texts, Jewish ideology, and the Jewish way of thinking. He severely limited the ability of the Jews to publish the Talmud in Yiddish or Russian. I think there was only one place he allowed for that to happen in the far west. This is the first time in roughly our era that ritual murder has shown up in Russia. I bet you I could find other examples.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This is, you know, with newspapers and everything, this is the first mention of it. I am not familiar with this case. It's very difficult to find information on it, matter what language I search in. I don't recall if it was an Ariel Tov's book or not, but we all know it's the same kind of thing. I know there's no doubt in my mind that there is a fanatical group of the Haredi that do this kind of thing. I've spoken to members, rabbis and notorious Carter about this. They reject the concept. The problem is that these accusations are common.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They all have the same pattern, and they've been made since ancient times. Now, things change with the mass media, the telegraph, which I don't know if that had been invented at this point, but we're in the middle of the 19th century, roughly. But things change when you have that. And this is what Russia had brought into itself with the partitions of Poland.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I think there were several million Jews in the Russian Empire at the time. But Nicholas I first, being a very strong monarchy, was incorruptible. among Russian monarchists, Nicholas the first is one of the favorites. He was extremely forthright. He was very simple in his way of life. He was very pious.
Starting point is 00:10:35 He tended to idealize Peter the Great a little bit. And he knew that the oligarchy, no matter what background they had, was his enemy. And that's where the so-called secret police came from. The point was to make sure that those with money aren't, especially, after the December's revolt, which was put down in between Alexander and Nicholas, which was very brief, but it left a mark on Russia. It had quite a bit of Jewish support. These were essentially liberal constitutionalists who wanted a secular, you know, a state trying to promote Constantine rather than Nicholas. Nicholas took over. And among monarchies, again, he's extremely
Starting point is 00:11:20 extremely important. Jews didn't like him for this for this reason. And you notice what's being quoted here. He didn't care who he offended. He didn't have a prejudice one way or another. It is possible that Jews can do something like this. But he's not so he approached this this objectively. Now so far the cases that have been brought have led to acquittals.
Starting point is 00:11:50 for the Jews accused, which does say something. I mean, Russia had a very fair system. I don't know. I like the Belize case, which I have a whole lecture about. I don't know if that was just or not. But when you read the Anglo-American literature on Nicholas I, it is almost uniformly negative. They just repeat Bolshevik propaganda,
Starting point is 00:12:17 liberal propaganda about him. And Solznytsin actually makes reference to that. He's made reference to it already. So more and more, Russian Orthodox, and I stress to the Orthodox part, elites are learning about what the Jewish mind really is. But Nicholas was not going to commit himself one way or another to the concept of ritual murder.
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Starting point is 00:14:20 Ask in store for details. The danger was understood by Nicholas and the fact that the Jews could convert Christians to Judaism. Since the 18th century, the high-profile conversion of the Judaism of Wozniznitsyn, a captain of the Imperial Army, had been kept in mind. In Russia from the second half of the 17th century onwards, groups of Judaizers multiplied. In 1823, the Minister of Internal Affairs announced in a report the widespread of the heresy of Judaism, in Russia and estimated the number of its followers at 20,000 people. Persecutions began, after which many members of the sect pretended to return to the bosom of the Orthodox Church while continuing to observe in secret the rights of their sect.
Starting point is 00:15:08 A consequence of all this was that the legislation on the Jews took at the time of Nicholas DeFerce a religious spin. The decisions and actions of Nicholas DeFerce with regards to the Jews was affected, such as his insistence on prohibiting them from having recourse to Christian servants, especially Christian nurses, for work among the Jews undermines and weakens the Christian faith in women. In fact, notwithstanding repeated prohibitions, this provision never was fully applied, and Christians continued to serve amongst the Jews. You could go back to the earliest days of the church or the earliest days
Starting point is 00:15:48 of Christian civilization in Byzantine or elsewhere and you'll hear this over and over and over again that there's a prohibition on Christians
Starting point is 00:16:02 working for Jews. It is so constant and repeated. It's proof in my mind that the treatment of Christians working or indentured to Jews
Starting point is 00:16:14 usually because of dead or or or something like that was abominable especially for women because if you know your Talmud you know that um the worst you can get caught i mean if you if you cheat on your wife with a with a gentile the most that you're going to get accused of is is bestiality uh not not adultery this is something that's you know you're you're seeing the the cliche and it's a very real cliche that i've i've seen with my own eyes of the wealthy Jew with the young Gentile blonde. That's not propaganda. I've seen it. It's such a common thing.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Jewish women kind of just have, you know, they don't have a, they don't have a reputation for attractiveness. So they just kind of throw up their hands. There's not much they can do if the, you know, an older Jew is powerful. We see this in the Weinstein case, you know. So there's a sexual element. It's not so much a religious element. element. No one's
Starting point is 00:17:15 fearful that they're going to be converted. Because remember, you don't have reform Jews at the time. That distinction comes later, especially in Eastern Europe, especially in Russia. These are all supposed to be fairly strict Talmudas. Because the Talmud doesn't
Starting point is 00:17:33 see Gentiles, as most of us know, the Goyim, the cattle, as human, they're not protected by the rules and the laws that would govern normal intercourse with humans. And that has more to do with anything else. Because there's almost nothing in any legislation passed by any government
Starting point is 00:17:55 talking about relations with Jews that doesn't mention that you may not hire or indenture gentiles. Sometimes they mention women specifically. Sometimes, in this case, they do. Sometimes they don't. but I think it's very, very clear what the issue is. And in Russia, and I'll repeat this, the bureaucracy was small, enforcing law in an empire this big with roads, which were always iffy under the best of conditions.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's hard. It's difficult. Everything was at the local level. And Jews can buy local government. They can get away with quite a bit. So it's very important to notice this, and because it's repeated all the time, the treatment had to have been terrible, and that's why it is such a constant in all of this legislation. The first measure against the Jews, which Nicholas considered from the very beginning of his reign, was to put them on an equal footing with the Russian population with regard to the subjugation
Starting point is 00:19:03 to compulsory service to the state, and in particular requiring them to participate physically in conscription, which they had not been subject to. to since their attachment to Russia. The bourgeois Jew did not supply recruits, but acquitted 500 rubles per head. This measure was not dictated solely by governmental considerations to standardize the obligations of the population. The Jewish communities were in any case very slow to pay the royalties, and moreover, Russia would receive many Jews from Galicia, where they were already required to perform
Starting point is 00:19:35 military service, nor by the fact that the obligation to provide recruits would reduce the number of Jews not engaged in productive work. Rather, the idea was that the Jewish recruit, isolated from his closed community, would be better placed to join the lifestyle of the nation as a whole and perhaps even orthodoxy. Taken into account, these considerations considerably tightened the conditions of the conscription applied to the Jews, leading to a gradual increase in the number of recruits and the lowering of the age of the conscripts. It cannot be said that Nicholas succeeded in enforcing the decree on the military service of the Jews without encountering resistance. On the contrary, all instances of execution proceeded slowly. The Council of Ministers discussed at length whether it was
Starting point is 00:20:21 ethically defensible to take such a measure in order to limit Jewish overcrowding, as stated by Minister of Finance, George von Kankran, all recognized that it is inappropriate to collect humans rather than money. The Caholam did not spare their efforts to remove this threat from the Jews or to postpone it. When exasperated by such slow progress, Nicholas ordered a final report to be presented to him in the shortest delays. This order, it seems, only incited the Caholam to intensify their action behind the scenes to delay the advancement of the matter. And they apparently succeeded in winning over to their cause, one of the high officials, whereby the report never reached its destination. At the very top of the imperial apparatus, this mysterious episode concludes
Starting point is 00:21:10 Jay Heson could not have occurred without the participation of the Kahal. A subsequent retrieval of the report was also unfulfilled, and Nicholas, without waiting any longer, introduced a conscription for the Jews by decree in 1827. Then in 1836, equality in obtaining medals for the Jewish soldiers who had distinguished themselves. This is the first time that that particular issue had come up. It was almost taken for granted that Jewish boys were not to be conscripted. Of course, they couldn't join voluntarily, given the nature of the cahal. Remember, it's still extremely difficult for the government or any government at the time to know how many Jews there were.
Starting point is 00:21:57 the Cahal went out of their way to mislead census officials or not cooperate with census officials. The fact they didn't have last names and the things like this, we've mentioned this before. You know, the numbers for taxation and things were always iffy, and that's deliberate.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And so as far as either taxes or conscription, the number of Jews, you know, there was always a certain quota that each region had to, you know, recruiting sergeant would come around and each group of villages had to supply one person. That's normally how it went in times of war. The conscription was usually for 20 years. But that changed depending on what was going on in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So it was very difficult to know how, you know, what the quota would be for any group of Jews. But the fact that Nicholas simply didn't care, he knew he was going to get. pushback for this. He didn't care. Turning these men, young, you know, 18 year olds into soldiers, you know, it might be the first time that any of these guys have ever come across honest work. Honest work for a cause bigger than themselves.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Conscription was such an outrage to the Jews because, you know, we're not fighting for not only a Gentile power, but the Gentile power. And even today, you still have riots in Jerusalem. Muslim from the Hasidics who don't recognize Israel, who refuse to be drafted. And as a war drags on over there, it's getting worse and worse, manpower-wise.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So the notion that these people should be forced to fight for essentially Rome in their minds for an Orthodox power that spreads orthodoxy explicitly was an outrage. And you see here they're doing anything they can. they're paying people off. They're lying about their numbers. They're lying about their locations. They're keeping a full report from coming to Nicholas. Nicholas is not stupid. He knew exactly why the report never showed up.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And he said, screw it. I am drafting you. We're doing it now. And that's the big difference between Nicholas and Alexander. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you. Even before you drive.
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Starting point is 00:25:49 like up to 70 euro off one pair of designer glasses. Offer ends on 7th of December 2021. 5. Conditions apply. Ask in store for details. Totally exempted from recruitment were the merchants of all guilds, inhabitants of the agricultural colonies, workshop leaders, mechanics and factories, rabbis and all Jews having a secondary or higher education. Hence the desire of many Jewish bourgeois to try to make it into the class of merchants, bourgeois society railing to see its members required to be drafted for military service undermining the forces of the community, be it under the effect of taxation or
Starting point is 00:26:27 recruitment. The merchants, on the other hand, sought to reduce their visible exposure to leave the payment of taxes to the bourgeois. Relations between Jewish merchants and bourgeois were strained, for at the time the Jewish merchants, who had become more numerous and wealthier, had established strong relations in governmental spheres. The Kahal of Grudna appealed to St. Petersburg to demand that the Jewish population be divided into four classes, merchants, bourgeois, artisans, and cultivators, and that each should have not to answer for the others. In the idea proposed in the early 30s by the Kahalam themselves, one can see that the first step toward the future categorization carried out by Nicholas in 1840, which was so badly
Starting point is 00:27:12 received by the Jews. The Kahulam were also charged with the task of recruiting among the Jewish mass, of which the government had neither recorded numbers nor profiles. The Kahal put all the weight of this levy on the backs of the poor, for it seemed preferable for the most deprived to leave the community, whereas a reduction in the number of its wealthy members could lead to general ruin. The Kahulam asked the provincial authorities, but they were denied, the right to disregard the turnover in order to be able to deliver the recruits, the tramp, recruitment, the tramps, those who did not pay taxes, the insufferable troublemakers, so that the owners who assume all the obligations
Starting point is 00:27:55 of society should not have to provide recruits belonging to their families. And in this way, the Kahulam were given the opportunity to act against certain members of the community. Well, this shouldn't be surprising. We're at an era where warfare is changing. Wars up until this point, roughly, were compared to today. low casualty events. We are coming to an era where things like, you know, science is being applied to weaponry,
Starting point is 00:28:29 which is never anything good. The machine gun is going to be developing soon, super accurate rifles, new tactics. And but so that was that was one issue. But conscription wasn't like, you know, it's not like the U.S. during Vietnam, that every healthy male 18 or over gets drafted. As I mentioned before, a recruiting sergeant would be given charge of a certain region. A village or a group of villages, depending on how big they are, had to provide one healthy male. So it would make sense for the... So we're not talking about mass conscription here. It's the very concept that the state could do this. So it shouldn't surprise you that the
Starting point is 00:29:16 kaha'al is giving over people that they didn't like in the first place. and this happened all the time, but we're still healthy and whatever to send off to get rid of them. And that's what they were doing. But depending on what was going on, that number could be increased. And you see,
Starting point is 00:29:35 the exact same thing happening. The American Civil War, you could buy your way out of conscription in the north. This was common. And unfortunately, it is true that it always fell onto the relatively poorer members of the population to do the fighting.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And nothing has changed. However, with the introduction of military service among the Jews, the men who were subject to it began to shirk and the full count was never reached. The cash taxation on Jewish communities had been considerably diminished, but it was noticed that this did by no means prevent it from continuing to be refunded only very partially. Thus, in 1829, Nicholas I first granted Grotna Grudna's request that in certain provinces, Jewish recruits should be levied in addition to the tariff imposed in order to cover tax arrears. In 1830, a Senate decree stipulated
Starting point is 00:30:34 that the appeal of an additional recruit reduced the sums owed by the cahal of 1,000 rubles in the case of an adult, 500 rubles in the case of a minor. It is true that following the untimely zeal of the government, governors, this measure was soon reported, while Jewish communities themselves asked for the government to enlist recruits to cover their arrears. In government circles, their proposal was welcomed coldly, for it was easy to foresee that it would open new possibilities of abuse for the caholum.
Starting point is 00:31:05 However, as we can see, the idea matured on one side as well as on the other. Evoking these increased stringencies in the recruitment of Jews by comparison with the rest of the population, Heson writes that this was a glaring anomaly in Russian law, for in general, in Russia, the legislation applicable to the Jews did not tend to impose more obligations than that of other citizens. Nicholas I. The first, keen intelligence inclined to draw clearly legible perspectives. Legend has it that the St. Petersburg-Moscow Railway was, as a result, mapped out with a ruler. In his tenacious determination to transform the particularist Jews into ordinary Russian subjects and, if possible, into Orthodox Christians, went from the idea of military recruitment
Starting point is 00:31:54 to that of Jewish Cantonists. The Cantonists, the name goes back to 1805, was an institution sheltering the children of the soldiers, lightning in favor of the fathers, the burden of service, which lasted 25 years. It was supposed to extend the sections for military orphans created under Peter the Great, a kind of school for the government which provided the students with technical knowledge useful for their subsequent service in the army, which in the eyes of civil servants now seems quite appropriate for young Jewish children or even highly desirable to keep them from a young age and for long years cut off from their environment. In preparation to the Cantonese Institution in 1827 decree granted Jewish communities the right to recruit a minor instead of an adult
Starting point is 00:32:40 from the age of 12, that is, before the age of nuptiality among the Jews. The New Jewish Encyclopedia believes that this measure was a very hard blow, but this faculty in no way meant the obligations to call a soldier at the age of 12. It had nothing to do with the introduction of compulsory conscription for Jewish children, as wrote erroneously, the encyclopedia, and as it ended up being accredited in the literature devoted to the Jews of Russia, then in the collective memory. The Ghalam even found this a profitable substitution and used it by recruits. the orphans, the children of widows, sometimes bypassing the law protecting only children, often for the benefit of the progeny of a rich man. Then from the age of 18, the Cantonists
Starting point is 00:33:28 perform the usual military service so long at the time, but let us not forget that it was not limited to barracks life. The soldiers married, live with their families, learned to practice other trades, they received the right to establish themselves in the interior provinces of the empire where they completed their service. But unquestionably, the Jewish soldiers who remain faithful to the Jewish religion and its ritual suffered from being unable to observe the Sabbath or contravene the rules on food. Yeah, this is interesting, and it often gets overlooked. For some reason, it gets forgotten about because you have someone who gets drafted,
Starting point is 00:34:08 or God forbid someone who gets killed, you now have, a child with just its mother. Now, normally in the peasant commune, there were methods for taking care of that. You know, it was, it was,
Starting point is 00:34:25 you know, traditional and compulsory for everyone else in the community to go in and take care of that family because it's no one's fault. But that wasn't always the case. So this whole concept was that you can, a young man who now is going to be struggling
Starting point is 00:34:45 because he's either literally or figuratively an orphan can go to what amounts to a boarding school in the civil service. It was somewhat, depending on the personality of the kid, it was somewhat of a privileged way to go. And of course, once they reach majority, they're able to go
Starting point is 00:35:04 into the army for a while. and yeah again Jews use this to their advantage but it was also a way and Mikhail knew this to you know take a young Jew and by the time he comes back all those years later he's not really a Jew anymore he can't do he's not really able to do this
Starting point is 00:35:32 you had clergy all over the army but you didn't have rabbis in fact what you were supposed to to get, at least in the Jewish case, was a very patriotic soldier who now has a pension and everything else, and it probably a very good education. But the very fact that this was actual productive, patriotic work, of all places, Russia did drive the cahal crazy, although they would. Again, all of this is
Starting point is 00:36:01 manipulation. And not to mention the fact that despite the wealth of these institutions, they have back taxes? Nicholas is not playing around. He's not going to go the way of Alexander. He knows that they lie. He knows that that's institutionalized. He knows that there's this intent, contempt for Gentiles in the Cahal. So anything that they can steal, anything that they can smuggle,
Starting point is 00:36:28 any lies that they can tell the taxman or anyone else is not only justified but considered praiseworthy. So in some cases, the Cahawahel. was willing to go with this Cantonese program for the sake of not having to pay a certain amount of taxes. It really depended on the cahol, it depended on the circumstances. And of course, it's shocking to us. But the Jews are going to Jew. This is the nature of what we were dealing with at the time.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And they realized very quickly that Nicholas was very different from what they had experience in the past. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28th to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favourite Liddle items all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast. Come see for yourself. The Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale, 28th to 30th of November.
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Starting point is 00:38:41 Trump on Dunbiog, Kosh Farage. Miner's place with Cantonists separated from their family environment, naturally found it difficult to resist the pressure of their educators, who were encouraged by rewards to successfully convert their pupils, during lessons of Russian arithmetic, but above all, of catechism, that were also rewarded for their conversion. Moreover, it was facilitated by their resentment toward a community that had given them up to recruitment.
Starting point is 00:39:08 But conversely, the tenacity of the Jewish character, the faithfulness to the religion inculcated at an early age, made many of them hold their grounds. Needless to say, these methods of conversion to Christianity were not Christian and did not achieve their purpose. On the other hand, the accounts of conversions obtained by cruelty or by death threats against Cantonists, supposedly collective drownings in the rivers for those who refuse baptism, such stories received public attention in the decades that followed, fall within the made a pure fiction. As the Jewish Encyclopedia published before the revolution, the popular
Starting point is 00:39:43 legend of the few hundred Cantonists allegedly killed by drowning was born from the information published in a German newspaper, according to which 800 Cantonists were taken away one fine day to be baptized in the water of a river, two of them perished by drowning. And don't be shocked if even now you come across historians who repeat this nonsense using the Jewish Encyclopedia as a source, this older version, I don't think, I can't say with 100% certainty, but I don't think it's in the more modern editions of the encyclopedia. But no conversion was done by force. No conversion can be done by force. You didn't have these underground Jews or anything like that. But this was to some extent, the point of all of this. And he mentions, and he's right to mention the fact that the Kahul gave them up, forced them into this.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And so, I don't know, maybe these aren't my friends, my family, after all. Now, the percentage of conversions, I simply don't know. They were not punished for being Jews throughout the system. As we've already mentioned, there's a whole special line of Jewish medals that Nicholas had struck for Valiant
Starting point is 00:40:58 service. But So the conversion that did happen, they occurred not by force, not in using secret Jewish rights afterwards, but they were legitimate. And we mentioned a few paragraphs ago, the rise of the Judaizers. Sometimes it's tough to tell the difference when the sources mention Freemasons, which were not tolerated under Nicholas, although they still existed. and the Judaizers. I don't know if there's a huge difference, especially at the time. Judaizers, going back to the time of the Muscovite Empire, we talked about some time ago,
Starting point is 00:41:46 were essentially a cult alchemists only in the elite of society. The higher levels of makes me the same way. So I don't know if there's a huge difference between the two, but calling a, what they used to call Protestants, especially Calvinist Judaizers. And there's a good reason for that. But whether they, depending on the author, associating matronery with Judaism, it's not totally illegitimate,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but I don't necessarily know in every case what they're, what or who they're referring to. The statistical data from the military inspection archives to the general staff for the years 1847 to 1854, when the recruitment of Jewish kentanists was particularly high, showed that they represented on average only 2.4% of the many Cantonists in Russia. In other words, that their proportion did not exceed that of the Jewish population in the country, even taking into account the undervalued data provided by the Kahalam during
Starting point is 00:42:44 the censuses. Doubtlessly, the baptize had an interest in exculpating themselves from their compatriots in exaggerating the degree of coercion they had to undergo in their conversion to Christianity, especially since as part of this conversion, they enjoyed certain advantages in the accomplishment of their service. Moreover, many converted Cantonists remained secretly faithful to their other religion, and some of them later returned to Judaism. In the last years of the reign of Alexander I, after a new wave of famine in Belarus, a new senator had been sent on mission. He had come back with the same conclusions as Derjavan a quarter of a century before. the Jewish Committee established in 1823, composed of four ministers, had proposed a study on what grounds it would be expedient and profitable to organize a participation of the Jews in the state
Starting point is 00:43:36 and to put down in writing all that could contribute to the improvement of the civil situation of this people. They soon realized that the problem thus posed was beyond their strength, that in 1825 this Jewish committee at the ministerial level had been replaced by a direct committee, the fifth, composed of the directors of their ministries who devoted themselves to studying the problem for another eight years. In his eagerness, Nicholas preceded the work of this committee with his decisions. Thus, as we have seen, he introduced conscription for the Jews. This is how he set a deadline of three years to expel the Jews from all the villages of the Western provinces and put an end to their activity of alcohol manufacturing, but, as under his predecessors, this measure experienced
Starting point is 00:44:23 slowdowns, stoppages, and was ultimately reported. Subsequently, he prohibited Jews from holding taverns and diners from living in such places and ensuring the retail side of alcohol in person, but this measure was not applied either. Another attempt was made to deny the Jews one of their favorite jobs, the maintenance of post houses with their ins and taverns, but again in vain because, apart from the Jews, there was not enough candidates to occupy them. Well, you could feel Nicholas's frustration because we, as we're reading this, you feel the frustration. How many times do they have to have reports all saying the same thing?
Starting point is 00:45:07 How many times do they have to ban Jewish activity in terms of distilling liquor only for it to fail over and over again? This is, I think, one of the reasons that conscription was introduced for them. they admitted, as we just read, that what the committee initially wanted to do was, quote, beyond their strength. They simply didn't have the resources to do it. And in post houses are part of the reason. When you have roads, like in Russia, especially when the countryside being so humongous, post houses for travelers were very important. It's extremely difficult to enforce this.
Starting point is 00:45:49 when you have so many of these in so many in so many different places as I've said before we're not just talking about an inn we're talking about places where all manner of illegal activity took place especially prostitution in other words
Starting point is 00:46:06 another word for having you know Gentile women serve serve the Jews maybe maybe her family owed quite a bit of money or something like that setting a deadline for the expulsed from the Jews from the villages. Again, this is never going to be 100% accomplished.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You know, slowdowns, stoppages, ultimately abandoned. So he just then put out a blanket prohibition. The only reason that there were not enough candidates is that there wasn't enough, there weren't enough Gentiles willing to invest in this, which could be a costly occupation, especially when you're in the middle of nowhere, the whole point of a posthouse is that it is in the middle of nowhere. So it does make sense you're going to have a tough time finding people.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Jews are perfectly okay with this because they circulated in a particular area, which made it very difficult to track them at any given time. But Nicholas is extremely frustrated. How many times have we gone through this same procedure since the murder of Paul, Zarpal.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And given what Russia is, Russia couldn't have been a tyranny because there was no way to enforce that. The only type of political violence was against the elite that despise the monarchy and as a 19th century wears on, that gets worse and worse. Elites are always the one that tries to get rid of a monarch.
Starting point is 00:47:39 The elites are always the one that tries to revolutionize society in their interests. So the oligarchy, especially as Mationary continues, it's corrosive work, Judaism, he's going to have to start dealing with this with greater and greater levels of severity, but this was only applied to the elites in the major cities because that really was the only way that any of this stuff could be enforced.
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Starting point is 00:49:39 Your five-star getaway, where every detail is designed with you in mind. Give the gift of a unique experience this Christmas. with vouchers from Trump-Dunbeg. Search Trump-Ireland gift vouchers. Trump on Dunbiog, Kosh Faragea. In 1827, a leasing system of the distilling activities was introduced throughout the empire, but there was a considerable fall in the prices obtained at the auctions when the Jews were discarded,
Starting point is 00:50:05 and it happened that there was no other candidate to take these operations, so that they had to be allowed to the Jews, whether in the towns or in the countryside, even beyond the area of residence. the government was, in fact, relieving the Jews of the responsibility of organizing the collection of taxes on liquor and thus receiving a regular return. Long before the merchants of the First Guild were allowed to reside in any part of the empire, all farmers enjoyed the freedom to move and resided in capitals in other cities outside the palest settlement. From the midst of the farmers came prominent Jewish men like Litman Fagin, also already mentioned, and Evsel Gunzberg.
Starting point is 00:50:43 he had held an alcohol manufacturing tenancy in a besieged, in a besieged Sevastopol. In 1859, he founded in St. Petersburg a banking establishment, one of the most important in Russia. Later, he participated in the placement of Russian treasury bonds in Europe. He was a founder of the dynasty of the Gunsburg Barons. Beginning in 1848, all Jewish merchants of the First Guild were allowed to lease drinking places, even where Jews had no right to reside permanently. The Jews also received the more extensive right with respect to the distillation of alcohol. As we remember in 1819, they were allowed to distill it in the provinces of Great Russia
Starting point is 00:51:27 until Russian artisans acquire sufficient competence. In 1826, Nicholas decided to repatriate them to the palest settlement, but in 1827, he conceded to several specific requests to keep distillers in place, for example in the state factories of erkuts erkuts. Vladimir Sovov quotes that the following quotes the following thoughts from Mr. Kotkoff. In the western provinces, it is the Jew who deals with alcohol, but is the situation better in other provinces of Russia.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The Jewish inkeepers who get the people drunk, ruin the peasants and cause their doom, and are they present throughout Russia? What is happening elsewhere in Russia where the Jews are not admitted and where the flow of alcohol is held by an Orthodox bartender or a Kulak? Let us listen to Leskof,
Starting point is 00:52:22 the great connoisseur of Russian popular life. Quoting, in the provinces of Greater Russia where Jews do not reside, the number of those accused of drunkenness or crimes committed under the influence are regularly and significantly higher than within the palest settlement. The same applies to the number of
Starting point is 00:52:38 deaths due to alcoholism. And this is not a new phenomenon. It has been seen. So it has been so since ancient times. And he's right. And I, and again, you can almost hear the frustration. By the way, this is a very early use of the word Kulak to refer to like a low-level oligarch. But now that Vladimir Slovia, that is not the philosopher. That's the historian, Vladimir Soloviav and Katkov was a conservative publisher at the time. We, from the very beginning, we see that Jews used alcohol, no matter where they are, to drive the peasants into debt, to be able to manipulate them, to be able to get them to sign things. And they flaunted the law wherever they could.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And it was relatively easy to do when it was hard to track them. those of us who were interested in organized crime end up talking about the Jews an awful lot know that during Prohibition the Jews were the dominant factor they liked using the Italians, they put them but the Jews were far more powerful all over the place. Jews founded
Starting point is 00:53:55 Las Vegas. The Jews were the first people to import heroin roughly around that same period of time in 1920s but of course in the history books they'll talk about Italians they love playing now of course
Starting point is 00:54:11 they claim that it's the Russian mafia where in fact it's exclusively exclusively Jewish and amazingly there is no RICO cases against them
Starting point is 00:54:21 you don't hear about these guys going to go into prison almost no one in the FBI speak Yiddish et cetera
Starting point is 00:54:27 et cetera and it's it's no different in this period of time we're talking about 100 years earlier
Starting point is 00:54:34 none of this is new and it didn't matter what the law said depending on where you are it's easy to flaunt it so once in a while the popular the populist took matters into their own hands
Starting point is 00:54:52 the problem with that is if that got too big now you have instability and I'll repeat again that the Jews were armed and were quite willing to defend themselves. Don't let anyone say otherwise. So it's very easy to see the frustration here.
Starting point is 00:55:14 We're not dealing. Remember, this is a Russian empire. It's not a nation state. St. Petersburg doesn't relate to the provinces like Washington, D.C., relate to New Jersey. It's a more or less decentralized system. I don't want to go so far as to say it's a confederation under a monarch, but it's not that far away from that. And so when Nicholas is trying to centralize things, it becomes extremely difficult,
Starting point is 00:55:45 and he didn't know how many of the elite who could carry this kind of stuff out were trustworthy, was trustworthy. Another huge frustration, which is why a very specific police force was founded to keep a watch on them. And it was only to see where Mason Ring had shown itself. Was anyone doing anything in secret? This, of course, is called a secret police and everything is awfully totalitarian in a system that was the very opposite of totalitarian. That's how the history books are written. You can't talk about
Starting point is 00:56:19 the suffering of the peasant without talking about the Jews and yet almost everyone writing on this subject refuses to mention them except as the eternal victim. However, it is true. Statistics tell us that in the western and southern provinces of the empire, there was one drinking place per 297 inhabitants, whereas in the eastern provinces, there were only one for 585. The newspaper, the Voice, which was not without influence at the time, was able to say that the trade of alcohol, the Jews, was the wound of this area, namely the Western region, and an intractable wound at that. in its theoretical considerations, I.G. Orchansky tries to show that the stronger the density in drinking places, the less alcoholism there was. We must understand that according to him, the peasant will
Starting point is 00:57:12 succumb to temptation, will succumb less to temptation if the flow of drinks is found under his nose and solicits him 24 hours a day. Remember, Derjavan, the bartenders trade night and day, but will the peasant be tempted by a distant cabaret when he will have to cross? several muddy fields to reach it. No, we know only too well that alcoholism is sustained not only by demand, but also by the supply of vodka. Orchansky nevertheless pursues his demonstration. When the Jew is interposed between the distiller and the drunken peasant, he acts objectively in favor of the peasant because he sells vodka at a lower price, but it is true that he does does so by pawning the effects of the peasant. Certainly, he writes, some believe, nevertheless,
Starting point is 00:58:01 that Jewish tenants have a poor influence on the condition of the peasants, but it is because in the trade of bartending, as in all the other occupations, they differ by their know-how, skill, and dynamism. It is true that elsewhere, in another essay of the same collection, he recognizes the existence of fraudulent transactions with the peasants. It is right to point out that the Jewish trade is grossly deceitful and that the Jewish dealer, tavernkeeper and usurer, exploit a miserable population, especially in the countryside. Faced with an owner, the peasant holds on firmly to his prices, but he is amazingly supple and confident when dealing with a Jew, especially if the latter holds a bottle of vodka and reserve. The peasant is often brought to sell his wheat, dirt cheap to
Starting point is 00:58:47 the Jew. Nevertheless, to this crude, glaring, arresting truth, or Chansky seeks attenuating circumstances, but this evil that eats away the will of the peasants, how to justify it. Now, I've read the Orchansky book, the set of essays. He is a Jew, and he's simply, he's objective enough where he just can't hide the truth. The tavern where the Jew dominated and owned was the, the locus of the worst elements of peasant life. And it was a simple den of iniquity. Nicholas was well aware of this.
Starting point is 00:59:38 He was well aware that there's alcohol, there's going to be all kinds of irrational decisions. He uses the word cabaret. We know exactly what he's talking about here. The exact same thing happened in the U.S. under the Jews during prohibition. And it's in this nothing has changed. We've already mentioned this goes back to ancient times.
Starting point is 01:00:02 There's certain fathers of the church that talk about this. There's a canon in, I forget which synod banning the clergy from ever going to a tavern. Now the definition of a tavern then is a little different from today, but it was always the Jewish, um, the Jewish notal point for control and domination. There's nothing specifically that pushes the Russian to vodka. The Jewish press will always say that they're drunks and everything else. No, this was brought to them.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Rockie didn't exist in Russia until Peter the Great. It was a supply chain that the Jews had put together and selling their product, farmers selling their product, dirt cheap, despite the fact that there were members of communes that they had to answer to, it didn't matter when there's a bottle of vodka there.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And the girls, the Gentile girls that they had there, and God knows what else they were doing, that's been lost to history, but not the logic, is a, you know, just continue to eat away at the mentality of the peasant.
Starting point is 01:01:14 So when industrialization, occurred and the peasant then goes from the countryside to the city, he's already halfway there. He's already halfway derationated. None of this would have happened without a Jewish influence. And lots of this was done with the circulation of Jews. It wasn't the same guy every time, but this tightly cohesive and centralized body of Jews was up against a very large but very decentralized Gentile system that under Nicholas was doing everything that couldn't stop this. It produced a lot of money. It produced a lot of liquidity for the system. It did, despite themselves, produced a lot of tax money, a huge amount of tax money. But everyone knew who mattered.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Gentiles knew that this was absolutely destructive. Even those who were profiting from it, knew how destructive this was. And the Jew is at the, was and is at the center of it using these sorts of institutions. If you go look at the Jewish control over the speakeas of American in the 20s of American Prohibition, there's no difference that I could see between that and what's going on here. This is just a constant in the Talmudic mind. Would you say that before the Jews really started to have any kind of influence in the culture of Russia, the singular culture of Russia, was it a singular culture? Was it a culture where, you know, even if it was regional? You knew what it was. It didn't have to be written down. You didn't need laws. It was just people who
Starting point is 01:02:54 shared, you know, something in common. And then you introduce a people into them. And it doesn't even have to be Jews with, you know, the way they operate with their manipulation, with the way they do commerce, everything like that. Any kind of culture that gets introduced. to a culture, especially a very simple people and agrarian people, that it's going to clash. It's going to cause problems. And you see people today arguing saying, oh, multiculturalism works perfectly fine. Look at the United States. It's like, well, I mean, how can you argue that when you have the obvious example here
Starting point is 01:03:38 of one people, a historic people, who when, when they encounter a people who are not who are advanced in their way of, I'm sorry, you know, there's no better word, manipulation. I mean, how could you even argue that introducing a foreign culture into a culture is actually a good thing? That's been the theme since I think the first word that I uttered in this, in this series. you had a fairly prosperous Russian
Starting point is 01:04:16 a Russian Orthodox society of course there were regional differences but Russia grew because these were very similar people they're speaking the same language they had the same religion they had the same calendar they had the same fan all this stuff similar but unidentical systems
Starting point is 01:04:32 in terms of economics that was the big regional side of it and then all of a sudden you introduce a cancer from a group of people who are aware that they're this destructive entity and that their whole mentality revolves around
Starting point is 01:04:50 how do we latch on to this host how do we keep him from dying while still being able to take advantage bleeding him slowly and as we mentioned the concept of the Messiah that once Jews reach critical mass
Starting point is 01:05:12 of power and influence, well, the Messiah, are you seeing it now? The Messiah must be coming. So now any incentive that they ever had to pull back is gone because pretty soon everyone's going to be our slave. That occurred in Poland. I'm not sure among your strict Jews in Russia at the time. You have it right now amongst Jews in America,
Starting point is 01:05:36 looking to people like Schneerson. And I'm going to be talking about that in my daily nationalist here in a little bit. It's, and as I said, I think the first day, I said that the Russian mind, the normal Gentile mind, especially the Christian mind, wasn't ready for what they had to face with this totally Machiavellian group of people who would do anything. Always at someone else's expense to turn a profit and to control. So it's not just they take over, but then they have to.
Starting point is 01:06:09 go out of their way to make sure that no one knows that they've taken over. So now they have to start controlling government agencies and everything else. It ends up being this cycle, this spiral of domination that's now reached. It's zenith in Zionism. That's on the front page even today. The connection between, you know, when the Jews reached a critical mass in the U.S., roughly around the time prohibition, American women, you know, instituted prohibition, mostly females. Now you had pornography issues for the very first time.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Court cases about that. Court cases about, yeah, of course, the violating the Volstead Act, the existence of organized crime becoming extremely powerful and extremely wealthy in the major cities. In every case, you had powerful Jews at every step of the way. They reached a certain level. and there used to be a reaction to this kind of thing. Of course, now there isn't or is there. I mean, you know, this may be changing.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But Nicholas was the first Russian leader to really know this and to really get his hands around this. But at his disposal, he didn't have the resources that a, you know, a 20th century state would have. This is not a state. This is an empire for better or for worse. And it didn't function like the modern nation. state does. And he was aware, not just at the local level with the peasantry, he was aware
Starting point is 01:07:40 how freemasonry and Judaism was affecting his own elite, and he had to take substantial action right up until the time of the revolution, which was also very Masonic and Judaic. This was this constant back and forth battle at one level or another. Nicholas was the first to really understand this in the 19th century. and this is why he is treated so harshly in the historical literature today. All right. We'll leave it there. We're at a natural stopping point.
Starting point is 01:08:14 We'll come back in a few days. As I do at the end of every episode, encourage you to go to the show notes of this episode. I have links. I have hot links to support Dr. Johnson's work. And I ask you to please do that. So Dr. Johnson, once again, thank you. The knocking was. at a minimum.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Oh, did you hear something? Yeah, it actually seemed charming at a certain point. Okay. Well, progress is being made. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. Talk to you in a few days. Talk to you soon, my friend. Bye-bye.

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