The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 17

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

58 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson c...ontinue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 So thank you for the support. Head on over to freeman beyond the wall.com forward slash support and do it there. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 17 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. Dr. Johnson. How are you doing today? I'm dealing with health insurance bureaucrats, which even under the best of conditions, it's a terrible thing. So once I'm through with that, I should be all right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, dealing with, and they're nothing more than just an apparatic of the government bureaucracy. So it's the same thing as dealing with someone like that. And despite the frustration, you know, it's not their fault. So you always show them great respect because they don't, you know, they're not making policy. Correct. All right. Picking up where we left off last time. And we're off.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And so, a new social force arose in Russian Jewry, which did not hesitate entering the struggle against the union of capital and synagogue, as expressed by the liberal U.I. Gesson. That force, nascent and for the time being weak, was the Jewish periodical press in the Russian language. Its firstborn was the Odessa magazine, Rasmet, Dawn, published for two years from 1859 to 1861 by the above-dmentioned O. Rabinovich. The magazine was positioned to serve as a medium for dissemination of useful knowledge, true religiousness, rules of communal life, and morality. It was supposed to predisposed Jews to learn the Russian language and to become friends with the national scholarship. Razvet also reported on politics expressing love for the fatherland and the intervention to promote the government's views with the goal of communal living with other peoples participating in their education and sharing their successes,
Starting point is 00:05:26 while at the same time preserving, developing, and perfecting our distinct national heritage. The leading Razzvet publicist, El Lavanda, defined the goal of the magazine is twofold. Quote, to act offensively and offensively, defensively against attacks from the outside, when our human rights and confessional religious interests must be defended, and offensively against our internal enemy, obscurantism, everydayness, social life troubles, and our tribal vices and weaknesses. You see the blatant contradiction there.
Starting point is 00:06:05 The fact that this was, it only was published for two years to tell you quite a lot, it sounds like a Jewish patriotic publication until you get down to the end where essentially everything Russian, what they would call, obscure entities,
Starting point is 00:06:23 any kind of, anything that they consider anti-Judeic, It's, of course, the entire Roman heritage is, you know, when I first read that, you know, they had us in the first half. I didn't believe for a second when I first read that this was supposed to be a patriotic publication, and then they admit it near the end. But it was only around for two years, despite being extremely significant. The last direction to reveal the ill places of the inner Jewish life aroused a fear in Jewish circles that it might lead to a new legislative, might lead to new legislative repressions. So the existing Jewish newspapers in Yiddish saw the Rosvitz direction as extremely radical. Yet the same moderate newspapers by their mere appearance had already shaken the patriarchal structure of the Jewish community life maintained by the silence of the people.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Needless to say, the struggle between the rabbinite and Hasidic Judaism went on unabated during that period, and this new 1860s struggle of the leading publicists against the stagnant foundations of daily life had added to it. Gesson noted that in the 1860s, the system of repressive measures against ideological opponents did not seem offensive even for the conscience of intelligent people. For example, publicist A. Covner, the Jewish Pizarov, could not refrain from tipping off a Jewish newspaper to the Governor General of Novorosich in the 1870s Pissarov was extremely popular among Jewish intellectuals. You notice that that's their main problem. It's that maybe in the mission statement, as we've read of this newspaper to expose the vices and virtues of their community, that's what they're worried about.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's what they're terrified of. But these vices would have to be pretty substantial for them to think that it's going to lead to repressions. And there's nothing... You hear Chuba back there? Chubba Purdy. Hey Chubba. I'm sorry, I can't play with you right now.
Starting point is 00:08:45 that was their main problem. That was their main fear. Exposing themselves to the world is one of the reasons they came out against this publication in general. M. Aldenov thinks that Jewish participation in Russian cultural and political life had effectively begun at the end of the 1870s and possibly a decade earlier in the revolutionary movement. In the 1870s, new Jewish public. El Lavanda, the critic S. Venguev, the poet N. Minsky, began working with the general Russian press, according to G. Aronson, Minsky expressed his desire to go to the Russo-Turkish war to fight for his brother's Slavs. The minister of education, Count Ignatiev, then expressed
Starting point is 00:09:39 his faith in Jewish loyalty to Russia. After the Russo-Turkish War of 1877 to 1878, rumors about major auspicious reforms began circulating among the Jews. In the meantime, the center of Jewish intellectual life shifted from Odessa to St. Petersburg, where new writers and attorneys gained prominence as leaders of public opinion. In that hopeful atmosphere, publication of Rosfit was resumed in St. Petersburg in 1879. In the opening editorial, M. I. Kulisher wrote, Our Mission is to be an organ of expression of the necessities of Russian Jews for promoting the awakening of a huge mass of Russian Jews from mental hibernation. It is also in the interest of Russia. In that goal, the Russian Jewish intelligentsia does not
Starting point is 00:10:28 separate itself from the rest of Russian citizens. Yeah, I don't believe him for two seconds. I'm also not certain about his desire to go fighting the Turks, especially since in Istanbul, the Jews were doing very, very well, and were the main bankers, and they ruled both the medical and legal establishments of the Ottoman Empire, even at that point. So I think a lot of this is propaganda aimed at Russians, not Jews. Alongside the development of the Jewish press, Jewish literature could not help but advance first in Hebrew, then in Yiddish, and then in Russian, inspired by the best of Russian literature. Under Alexander II, there were quite a few Jewish authors
Starting point is 00:11:17 who persuaded their co-religionists to study the Russian language and look at Russia as their homeland. Naturally, in the conditions of the 1860s and 1870s to Jewish educators, still few in numbers and immersed in Russian culture, could not avoid moving toward assimilation in the same direction, which under analogous conditions led the intelligent Jews of Western Europe to unilateral assimilation, within the dominant people.
Starting point is 00:11:43 However, there was a difference. In Europe, the general culture level of the native peoples was consistently higher, and so in Russia, these Jews could not assimilate with the Russian people, still weakly touched by culture, nor with the Russian ruling class who rejected them. They could only assimilate with the Russian intelligentsia, which was then very small in number, but already completely secular, rejecting, among other things, their God. Now Jewish educators also tore away from Jewish religiosity and being unable to find an alternative bond with their people,
Starting point is 00:12:17 they were becoming completely estranged from them and spiritually considered themselves sorely as Russian citizens. Solely as Russian citizens. Yeah, whatever that might mean. This is a Jewish, this is a Kulisher, a Jew writing about how inferior Russians were to the rest of Europe and by extension to the, the Jews, which is certainly not the case, especially in St. Petersburg. And so already we've gone from, you know, a patriotic press to Jews are now in charge of uplifting Russia from its doldrums or orthodoxy and monarchy to what Europe was soon to become and what Britain already was.
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Starting point is 00:15:02 all this contributed to a closer contact of the Jewish ghetto with the surrounding world. Moreover, by the 1860s, up to one-third of Odessa's Jews could speak wrong. Russian. The population there grew quickly because of massive resettlement to Odessa of both Russian and foreign Jews, the latter primarily from Germany and Galicia. The blossoming of Odessa by the middle of the 19th century presaged a prosperity of all Russian jury toward the ends of the 19th to the beginning of the 20th century. Free Odessa developed according to its own special laws, differing from the all-Russian statute since the beginning of the 19th century. It used to be a free port, and was even open to Turkish ships during the war with Turkey. The main occupation of Odessa's
Starting point is 00:15:47 Jews in this period was the grain trade. Many Jews were small traders and middlemen, mainly between the landowners and the exporters, as well as agents of prominent foreign and local, mainly Greek wheat trading companies. At the grain exchange, Jews worked as stockbrokers, appraisers, cashiers, scalers, and loaders. The Jews were in a dominant position in grain commerce. By 1870, most of the grain export was in the grain export was in the grain. their hands. In 1910, 89.2% of grain exports was under their control. In comparison with other cities in the Pala Settlement, more Jews of the independent professions lived in Odessa, and they had better relations with educated Russian circles and were favorably looked upon and protected by the
Starting point is 00:16:31 high administration of the city. And Pirogolf, the trustee of the Odessa School District from 1856 to 1858, particularly patronized the Jews. A contemporary observer had vividly described this Odessa's clutter with fierce competition between Jewish and Greek merchants, where, in some years, half the city from the major bread bigwigs to the thrift store owners lived off the sale of grain products. In Odessa, with her non-stop business commotion bonded by the Russian language, it was impossible to draw a line to separate clearly a wheat merchant or a banker from a man of an intellectual profession. Well, you're already seeing the outlines of the Jewish revolutionary movement here. The fact that it was a, quote, open city that was allowing Turkish ships during the war with Turkey.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And again, the Jews were major players in the Ottoman Empire. So you exactly what was going on here. Capitalism and what later, you know, Marxism, Leninism, are at their foundations very, very similar. their assumptions, their view of history, everything else, their view of nationalism, and all the rest. And so it's precisely because of this bustling, free trade world there,
Starting point is 00:17:57 that the Russians there lost their identity, some of them. And even before the revolution, Odessa, and this caused one of the so-called pogroms against them. they were getting heavily armed there. They, the mayor, Jewish mayor, raised the, at the time, the Marxist flag over the mayor's office, causing, again, more violence. Again, it was clearly a Jewish movement, and it comes directly from this. This is what assimilation essentially meant to many Jews, and this is exactly the social background that the bulk of the early Bolsheviks came from.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Thus, in general, among the educated Jews, the process of adopting all things Russian had accelerated. European education and knowledge of the Russian language had become necessities. Everyone hurried to learn the Russian language and Russian literature. They thought only about hastening integration and complete blending with their social surroundings. They aspired not only for the mastery of the Russian language, but for the complete russification and adoption of the Russian spirit so that the Jew would not differ from the rest of citizens in anything but religious. The contemporary observer M.G. Morgolis wrote,
Starting point is 00:19:18 Everybody had begun thinking of themselves as citizens of their homeland. Everybody now had a new fatherland. Members of the Jewish intelligentsia believed that for the state and public good they had to get rid of their ethnic traits and to merge with the dominant nationality. A contemporary Jewish progressive wrote that Jews as a nation do not exist, that they consider themselves Russians of the Mosaic faith. faith. Jews recognize that their salvation lies in the merging with the Russian people. You know, this kind of talk, it depends on who they're addressing.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Morgulis, which can be a Jewish name, he's going too far. This was a small minority of Jews who somehow thought that they could merge with the dominant nationality. We read at the beginning of this paragraph, all things Russian. Well, not. all things, and certainly not religion, which was at the foundation of all things, of all things Russian. To think that the only difference was in the synagogue attendance versus church attendants is, it may be wishful thinking for someone who now was quite alienated from his own people, but again, I think that's a small minority. It didn't take long for this movement to become Bolshevik later, or Mensovic later. It is perhaps worth
Starting point is 00:20:44 naming here Veniamen Portugolov, a teacher, a doctor and publicist. In his youth, he harbored revolutionary sentiments, and because of that, he even spent some time as a prisoner in the Peter and Paul Fortress. From 1871, he lived in Samara. He played a prominent role in development of rural health service and public health science. He was one of the pioneers of therapy for alcoholism and the struggle against alcohol abuse in Russia. He also organized public lectures. From a young age, he shared the ideas of Nerodnix in the villages, preaching on the moral right to revolt against the established order about the pernicious role of Jews in the economic life of the Russian peasantry. These ideas laid the foundation for the dogmas of the Judeo-Christian
Starting point is 00:21:32 movement of the 1880s, the spiritual biblical brotherhood. Portugalov deemed it necessary to free Jewish life from ritualism and believe that Jewry could exist and develop a culture and civilization only after being dissolved in European peoples. He had meant the Russian people. Yeah, this, again, it depends on who he's speaking to. The Nadnodniks, yet some of them spoke about the Jews, many of them were Jew. Again, keep in mind Marx's early writings on the Jews, where he fully admitted what they were. But that kind of attitude, that mercantile attitude, especially free trade, according to Marx,
Starting point is 00:22:16 was necessary for the later Bolshevik revolution. But this spiritual biblical brotherhood, again, it didn't affect many people, but it was an outgrowth of what we spoke about with Alexander I in the Masonic Bible Society. Judeo-Christian, of course, as we all know, is a misnomer, it's a contradiction. But this is what,
Starting point is 00:22:38 come straight out of masonry in its various sects that came afterwards. A substantial reduction in the number of Jewish conversions to Christianity was observed during the reign of Alexander II as it became unnecessary after the abolishment of the institution of military cantonists and the widening of Jewish rights. And from now on, the sect of Skaria, the Jew, began to be professed openly too. Now that's, we spoke about that very early on, I think one of the first episodes, we talked about the Judaizers in Russian medieval Novgorah, this semi-nostic sect that's deliberately misinterpreted by Russia specialists and academics out there today. Again, this is just another form of freemasonry, you know, a Judaic Protestantism. that was, you know, again, it didn't affect many people, but numbers don't matter in these
Starting point is 00:23:42 situations. What matters is cohesion. What matters is money and cohesion. So that's what he means by Sakaria, the Jew. Such an attitude on the part of affluent Jews, especially those living outside the pale of settlement and those with Russian education, toward Russia as undeniably a homeland is noteworthy. And so it had to be noticed and was, in view of the great reforms, Russian Jews were, without exaggeration, patriots and monarchists and adored Alexander II. M. M. M. M. M. M. Maviev, then Governor General of the Northwest Cray, famous for his ruthlessness toward the Poles, patronized Jews in the pursuit of the sound objective of winning the loyalty of a significant portion of the Jewish population to the Russian state. Though during the Polish uprising
Starting point is 00:24:35 of 1863, Polish Jewry was mainly on the side of the Poles. A healthy national instinct prompted the Jews of the Vilnius, Countess, and Grudna, governmental areas to side with Russia because they expected more justice and humane treatment from Russians than from the Poles, who, though historically tolerating the Jews, had always treated them as a lower race. This is how Y.A. Taitel described it. The Polish Jews were always detached from the Russian Jews. They looked at Russian Jews from the Polish perspective.
Starting point is 00:25:12 On the other hand, the Poles in private shared their opinion on the Russian Jews in Poland. The best of these Jews are a real enemy. Russian Jews who had infested Warsaw, Lutz, and other major centers of Poland, brought with them Russian culture, which we do not like. For anyone to say that all Jews, and he says this explicitly here, were monarchists. and pro-Russian is knowingly lying. It may be true that they had a high, that they had great esteem for Alexander II.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It served their interest to do that. But that doesn't make them monarchists at all. And I'm also iffy about this alleged separation between Polish and Russian Jews since technically parts of the old Polish Empire we're now under Russia. It really is the same group of Khazars, the
Starting point is 00:26:10 Uskanazim. So I have a lot of problem with the view. And these are all quotes. This isn't Sultan Eaton talking here. You know, and Jews supported Russia of the monarchy whenever it was, when it serves their interest, which clearly now
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Starting point is 00:27:59 Get the facts be drinkaware, visit drinkaware.comware.com. In those years, the Russification of Jews on its territory was highly desirable for the Tsarist government. Russian authorities recognized socialization with Russian youth as a sure method of re-education of the Jewish youth to eradicate their hostility toward Christians. Still, this newborn Russian patriotism among Jews had clear limits. The lawyer and publicist I, G, or Shun. He said that to accelerate the process, it was necessary to create conditions for the Jews such that they could consider themselves as free citizens of a free civilized country. The above-mentioned Lev Lavanda, a Jewish scholar, living under the jurisdiction of the governor
Starting point is 00:28:47 of Vilnius, then wrote, I will become a Russian patriot only when the Jewish question is resolved conclusively and satisfactorily. Here we go. A modern Jewish author who experienced the long and bitter 20th century and then had finally emigrated to Israel, replied to him looking back across the chasm of a century, quote, Levant does not notice that one cannot lay down conditions to motherland. She must be loved unconditionally, without conditions or preconditions. She is loved simply because she is the mother.
Starting point is 00:29:18 This stipulation, love under conditions, was extremely consistently maintained by the Russian Jewish until. Algencia for 100 years, though in all other respects, they were ideal Russians. I have the feeling some of this nonsense is being spouted because we're going to be getting into as a Jewish revolutionary movement grew and their terrorism grew, especially after the murder of Alexander II, they wanted to create the narrative that these poor innocent Jews were attacked by Russian nationalists. They were ideal Russians. No, I think the basic attitude you laughed at
Starting point is 00:30:02 of Levin de, the publisher of Dawn newspaper, Russian patriotism. It just means whoever serves my interest will get my loyalty. It's like if you remember after 9-11 and now the U.S. was going to be militarily going after more enemies of Israel, all of a sudden you see these Jews with the American lapel pin. Remember when that was fashionable.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But the minute that's no longer the case, or if foreign aid is cut or something, that's all going to go away. Now, the guy is right here. But if Jews, who are very cohesive anyway, are free citizens of Russia, they're always going to be able to amass the wealth from their international connections and be able to dominate others, which then creates contempt from peasants, from other townsmen. We already talked about the enmity between Greek merchants and Jewish merchants in Odeska, and I'm not even talking about the old believer merchants who were somewhat powerful, even still. So here we have within two paragraphs, completely contradictory ideas about what the Jews thought the motherland was. And yet in the described period,
Starting point is 00:31:25 only small and isolated groups of Jewry became integrated into Russian civil society. Moreover, it was happening in the larger commercial industrial centers. Leading to the appearance of an exaggerated notion about victorious advance of the Russian language deep into Jewish life, all the while the wide Jewish masses were untouched by the new trends, isolated not only from Russian society, but from the Jewish intelligentsia as well. In the 1860s and 1870s, the Jewish people en masse were still unaffected by assimilation, and the danger of the Jewish intelligentsia breaking away from the Jewish masses was real. In Germany, Jewish assimilation went smoother as there were no Jewish popular masses there.
Starting point is 00:32:07 The Jews were better off socially and did not historically live in such crowded enclaves. However, as early as the end of the 1860s, some men, members of the Jewish intelligentsia began voicing opposition to such a conversion of Jewish intellectuals into simple Russian patriots. Peretzmolensky was the first to speak on this in 1868. The assimilation with the Russian character is fraught with national danger for the Jews, that although education should not be feared, it is necessary to hold on to the Jewish historical past that acceptance of the surrounding national culture still requires preservation, percivation of the Jewish national character and that the Jews are not a religious sect but a nation.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So if the Jewish intelligentsia withdraws from its people, the latter would never liberate itself from the administrative oppression of the spiritual stupor. The poet I. Gordon had put it this way. Be a man on the street and a Jew at home. Just in the last few paragraphs, the last four paragraphs, how many contradictions in what the Jews were allegedly doing, how we read. Some were saying that they were all monarchists, that they were ideal Russians, that they were assimilating,
Starting point is 00:33:28 which is another way of saying we're no longer Jews. And then we have this nonsense that it could accept the surrounding national culture. I don't know what accepting means. I don't think that means being a part of it. I guess it means tolerating it while still preserving the Jewish national character. Now, ultimately, that's what assimilation meant, is that you were still Jewish, of course, and you operated for Jewish self-interest more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You spoke the language of the nation, but that was all, again, pure self-interest. Be a man in the street and a Jew and home, well, there were Jews everywhere. it just was a different mask depending on circumstances. And this cacophony of ideas that we've read from these various Jewish and non-Jewish authors shows exactly the different masks that they were wearing.
Starting point is 00:34:26 There was no acceptance of Russian culture because the foundation of it was Orthodoxy. What do they mean by culture here? They talk about the food? You know, Orthodoxy and the crown and the peasant commune, everything that the Jew is not is the core of a Russian
Starting point is 00:34:43 culture. So what they were in the process of doing is subverting that and claiming that somehow this was tolerating or accepting the culture that surrounded them. The St. Petersburg journals Roszvitt and Ruski Evri, which translates to Russian Jew, had already followed this direction. They successfully promoted the study of Jewish history and contemporary life among Jewish youth. At the end of the 1870s and the beginning of the 1880s, cosmopolitanian. and national directions in Russian Jewry became distinct. In essence, the owners of Rosvitt had already abandoned the belief in truth of assimilation. Rosvitt unconsciously went by the path. Of the awakening of ethnic identity, it was clearly expressing a Jewish national bias. The illusions
Starting point is 00:35:33 of Russification were disappearing. The general European situation of the latter half of the 19th century facilitated development of national identity. There was a violent Polish uprising, the war for the unification of Italy, and then of Germany, and later of the Baltic Slavs. The national idea blazed and triumphed everywhere. Obviously, these developments would continue among the Jewish intelligentsia, even without the events of 1881 and 1882. Yeah, again, even that one publication, Rastved or Dawn, has been, has been all over the place. and I think they started off by telling a lie that this is going to be a patriotic publication, and then they revealed their true faith later on.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Cosmopolitan in national direction. Well, in the Jewish mind, you're a cosmopolitan when you're talking about policy of your host, whatever country you live in, but you're a nationalist when you're talking about the Jews. This has been consistent in their existence. You know, this is how like someone like Moses Hess was able to completely assimilate both Marxism and Zionism at the same time, because there's two different audiences for the Jewish mind to worry about. Naguoyim, of course, and each other. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your air.
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Starting point is 00:38:45 Russian society was concerned with Brofman's publications, which were taken quite seriously. So positive views towards Jews living in Russia were okay so long as they didn't know anything about them. The minute people read Broffman
Starting point is 00:39:00 who used, if we remember, the legitimate, real, verifiable minutes of the various meetings of the Khaal and different parts of the empire, and their contempt and their hatred for the Russians around them, the desire to exploit them. Then, of course, everything.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And they were seeing that in their own cities. It didn't matter what point of view you held, if you were Jew. You were building a financial empire at the expense of everyone else because they thought differently than everybody else. They would never charge interest on each other, but they will towards Russians. They won't undercut each other, but they'll undercut Russians.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And they had this massive financial pool to dip into at any given time, this international, Turkey especially, because it was this closer near Ukraine and Odessa, of course, is on the Black Sea. People are seeing that this is true and how they acted. It wasn't just a book. We're seeing how it's happening. And so, again, the revolutionary movement is coming out of this.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So this talk about is any kind of assimilation, being ideal Russians. This was just for show at the time. And by the national ideal, I think they mean Zionism, which already had existed both in Germany and Russia, despite it only being a minority faith at the time. And then, you know, again, in the Soviet Union, the same thing. you could claim to be internationalists, but of course they're Jews. It depends on the audience. It depends on who they're talking about. So the point is, if you had positive views of Jews so long as you didn't know anything about them.
Starting point is 00:40:56 All this coincided with the loud creation of the Alliance Israelite Universal in Paris in 1860. Its goal was to defend the interests of Jewry all over the world. Its central committee was headed by Adolf Kremu. Insufficiently well-informed about the situation of Jews in Russia, the alliance took interest in Russian Jewry and soon began consistently working on behalf of Russian Jews. The alliance did not have Russian branches and did not function within Russia. Apart from charitable and educational work,
Starting point is 00:41:30 the alliance, in defending Russian Jews, several times addressed Russian government directly, though often inappropriately. For example, in 1866, the alliance appealed to prevent the execution of Izgaburadai, who was convicted of politically motivated arson. However, he was not sentenced to death at all, and other Jews implicated in the affair were acquitted even without their petition. In another case, Kriygh protested against a resettlement of Jews to the Caucasus, and the Amur region, although there was no such Russian government plan whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:42:10 In 1869, he again protested this time against the non-existent persecution of Jews in St. Petersburg. Kremu had also complained to the President of the United States about similarly non-existent persecutions against Jewish religion by the Russian government. Nevertheless, according to the report of the Russian ambassador in Paris, the newly formed alliance, with the mosaic tables over the earth as its emblem, had already enjoyed extraordinary influence on Jewish societies in all countries. All this alarmed the Russian government as well as Russian public. Yaakov Braffman actively campaigned against the Universal Jewish Alliance.
Starting point is 00:42:50 He claimed the alliance, like all Jewish societies, is double-faced. Its official documents proclaim one thing while the secrets of one say another, and that the task of the alliance is to shield the Jew-Rewrish. to shield the Jewry from the perilous influence of Christian civilization. As a result, the society for spreading the enlightenment among the Jews in Russia was also accused of having a mission to achieve and foster universal Jewish solidarity and caste-like seclusion. At the expense of everyone else, Jewish organizations began to explode at this period of time.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They're so over-organized that in each country, there's, even an association that is called something like the association for Jewish organizations. They're so heavily organized because of their small numbers. Organizations is extremely important. Rothman knew what was going on here. This is all what we've been talking about from the beginning. Of course, they're saying one thing in public. Like when they call themselves white back in from remember in 2020,
Starting point is 00:43:57 and then, of course, hating white people when, you know, we weren't around. or even in a different post, everything is double-faced. That's how they function. Their entire existence is making war on logos. Their entire existence comes from the rejection of Christ as the Messiah. So they have one enemy, and that is the Orthodox Church and the monarchy that protects it, Rome, in a very broad sense. And they set their face of destroying it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And this is where more and more Russians begin to learn, finally, about what the Jews in Russia really were. Fears of the Alliance were also nurtured by the very emotional opening proclamation of its founders to the Jews of all nations and by the dissemination of false alliance documents. Regarding Jewish unity, the proclamation contained the following words, Jews, if you believe that the alliance is good for you, that while being the parts of different nations, you nevertheless can have common feelings, desires, and hopes. If you think that your disparate effects, good aspirations, and individual ambitions could become a major force when united and moving in one direction and toward one goal,
Starting point is 00:45:14 then please support us with your sympathy and assistance. Later in France, a document surfaced containing an alleged proclamation to Jews of the universe by Adolf Kramu himself. It was very likely a forgery. Perhaps it was one of the drafts of the opening proclamation not accepted by the alliance founders. However, it resonated well with Brofman's accusations of the alliance having hidden goals. We live in alien lands and we cannot take an interest in the variable concerns of those nations until our own moral and material interests are endangered. The Jewish teachings must fill the entire world.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Heated arguments were exchanged in this regard in Russian press, ISA, Asca. Ex-A-S-Skof concluded in his newspaper, Rousse, that the question of the document under discussion being a falsehood is rather irrelevant in this case because of the veracity of the expressed hearing Jewish views and aspirations. This is an extremely important point. Already we're seeing these organizations inventing acts of persecution. the alleged Russian in a few paragraphs earlier
Starting point is 00:46:30 the alleged Tsarist attempt to resettle Jews of course it never existed but you'll still read about them in textbooks today so they're already doing this and then yeah it's I've always found it easy to discover a forgery because phrases like Jewish teachings must fill the entire world
Starting point is 00:46:52 they don't talk like that and Aksonkov, who was one of the greatest philosophers of the Russian 19th century leader of the Slavophile movement, he has it right. Yeah, this is, you know, this is whoever wrote it didn't, you know, it's like someone who knows a little bit about Judaism trying to write something. Like the protocols are like that. They're full of all, full of all of these, you know, massively negative statements that they would never make. but it doesn't matter because yeah these are forgeries and they're bad forgeries but at their essence they do reflect exactly what the Jews are doing and what these organizations are trying to do the pre-revolutionary Jewish encyclopedia writes that from the 1870s fewer voices were heard in defense of Jews in the Russian press the notion of Jews allegedly united under the ages of a powerful
Starting point is 00:47:52 political organization administered by the alliance Israelite universal was taking root in Russian society. Thus, the foundation of the alliance produced in Russia, and possibly not only in Russia, a reaction counterproductive to the goals that the alliance had specified. If the finders of the alliance could have foreseen the sheer scale of condemnations against the idea of worldwide Jewish solidarity and even the accusations a conspiracy which had erupted after the creation of the organization, they might have
Starting point is 00:48:25 refrained from following that route, especially considering that the alliance did not alter the course of Jewish history. After 1874, when a new military charter introducing the Universal Military Service obligation in Russia came into force, numerous news articles, article on draft evasion by Jews began feeling resentment against the Jews in the Russian society. The alliance israelite universal was accused of intending to care about young jews leaving russia to escape conscription enforced by the new law so that using support from abroad the jews would have more opportunities than other subjects to move out of the country the question would arise once again precisely a century later in the 1970s cremew replied that the mission of the alliance
Starting point is 00:49:13 was the struggle against religious persecution and that the alliance had decided henceforth not to assist Jews trying to evade military obligation in Russia. Rather, it would issue an appeal to our co-religionists in Russia in order to motivate them to comply with all the requirements of the new law. It's absolutely shameless, but you notice how the rhetoric has changed. Just a few paragraphs ago, we were talking about these Jews wanting to be parts of Russia and ideal and becoming patriots and now we have this ridiculousness of we're just trying to have Jews follow the law. You know, this two-facedness. It was so blatant and so obvious. You didn't need the internet back then to understand it. But all of that rhetoric that we talked about a few paragraphs ago is
Starting point is 00:50:05 gone. Once people learned about what the Jews were, once they began to organize with very wealthy and very powerful and well-armed organization that came into existence at the expense of everyone else especially, you know, they're smuggling, the crime, the alcohol. Once that was known, Braffman's revelations,
Starting point is 00:50:29 people started to learn and understand what's really going on, but no one's talking about assimilation anymore. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans.
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Starting point is 00:52:09 Besides crossing the border, another way to evade military service was self-mutely. MUTilation. General Deneken, who was quite a liberal before and even during the revolution, described hundreds of bitter cases of the self-mutilation he personally saw during several years of service at the military medical examination board in Volan governmental area. Sorry, people, I have a problem with that word right there pronouncing it. Such numerous and desperate self-injuries are all the more striking, considering that it was already the beginning. beginning of the 20th century. And just so you know, this is the same General Danikin, who eventually became the leader of the
Starting point is 00:52:49 White Army. As previously mentioned, the influx of Jews into public schools, professional schools, and institutions of higher learning had sharply increased after 1874 when a new military charter stipulating educational privileges came into force. This increase was dramatic. While calls to restrict Jewish enrollment in public education institutions were heard from the Northwestern Kray, even before, in... 1875, the Ministry of Public Education informed the government that it was impossible to admit
Starting point is 00:53:20 all Jews trying to enter public educational institutions without constraining the Christian population. It is worth mentioning here the G. Aronson's regretful note that even D. Mendeliev of St. Petersburg University showed anti-Semitism. The Jewish Encyclopedia summarizes all the 1970s period as a turnaround in attitudes of a part of Russian intelligentsia, which rejected the ideas of the previous decade, especially in regard to the Jewish question. And these are the same people who will tell you and be all serious about it, that this has nothing to do with Jewish behavior, nothing to do with Jewish exploitation and financial practices, and the lying and the cheating and the smuggling and everything else.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Jewish terrorism was just getting off the ground. Revolutionary movement was always Jewish at its root. We talked about that a few paragraphs ago that politically motivated arson. This guy was supposed to be executed, but he was never sentenced to death. In fact, many of his friends were acquitted. This is already starting.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And they ended up killing a lot of people. This is why there's a turnaround. It didn't just come out of nowhere. The more people learned, the worst of God for the Jews. An interesting feature of that time was that it was the press, the rightest one, of course, and not governmental circles that was highly skeptical and in no way hostile towards the project of the full emancipation of the Jews. The following quotes are typical. How can all the citizenship rights be granted to this stubbornly fanatical tribe,
Starting point is 00:55:05 allowing them to occupy the highest administrative posts? Only education and social progress can truly bring together Jews and Christians. introduce them into the universal family of civilization, and we will be the first to say words of love and reconciliation to them. Civilization will generally benefit from such a rapprochement as the intelligent and energetic tribe will contribute much to it. The Jews will realize that time is ripe to throw off the yoke of intolerance, which originates in the overly strict interpretations of the Talmud. until education brings the Jews to that thought, it is necessary to live not only at the expense of Russian society, but also for the good of the society,
Starting point is 00:55:50 no discussion could be held about granting them more rights than those they have now. Even if it is possible to grant Jews all civil rights, then in any case they cannot be allowed into any official positions where Christians would be subject to their authority and where they could have influence on the administration and legislation of a Christian country. It's no different than Israel today not allowing Arabs to serve in the army. You can't promote your enemies. You can't have your sworn enemies taking positions of power because all they're going to do is support more enemies of yours and promote them.
Starting point is 00:56:32 No different than higher education in the U.S. is so Jewish, especially in the Ivy Leeds, they're promoting second rate Jewish intellects at the expense of everyone else When you grant just simple Jewish civil rights Like after revolutionary France Where Jews just became treated like any other citizen What you're going to get in less than a generation
Starting point is 00:56:57 Is a Jewish oligarchy Owning a huge chunk of the land Through usurious loans Because they have access to that kind of money and the dominance of the trade. We already see they dominated the grain trade outside of Russia from Ukraine with the Black Sea and elsewhere, even the Baltic. That's what happens when they are completely emancipated.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So you have a few people saying maybe the call wasn't so bad after all. I've been told that there are Arabs, there are Arabs serving in the IDF, and that there are Arabs in the Knesset, 15%. Well, there are Israeli citizens, but it's a huge problem. Arabs in the, or at least in the officer corps, there are citizens. They do, you know, they can vote and things like that. They do have a representation in connection to connect it all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:54 But in terms of security structures, that's a very different story. It's one of the reasons why the IDF today is so extremely overstretched. There's not enough of them for all these new plans that they have. But it's the same concept either way. The idea is the same. You can't have your opponent in positions of power. And as more and more people learned what the Jews were, ideologically speaking, nationally, ethically speaking, it just made sense. You can't allow them to dominate any institution.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And there's something else has to be done with them. They have to leave society. The attitude of the Russian press at that time is well reflected in the words of the prominent St. Petersburg newspaper, Gullos. Russian Jews have no right to complain that the Russian press is biased against their interests. Most Russian periodicals favor equal civil rights for Jews. It is understandable that Jews strive to expand their rights towards equality with the rest of Russian citizens. Yet, some dark forces drive Jewish youth into the craziness of political agitation. Why is that only a few political traits do not list Jews among defendants, and importantly, among the most prominent defendants?
Starting point is 00:59:14 That and the common Jewish practice of evading military service are counterproductive for the cause of expanding civil rights of Jews. One aspiring to achieve rights must prove beforehand his ability to fulfill the duties which come with those rights, and avoid putting himself into an extremely unfavorable and dismal position with respect to the interests of state and society. You would think the Russian press at the time would be far more conservative. But right up into the war, the right-wing, your royalists and your nationalists, they're just not, maybe that hasn't changed, but they just were terrible at propaganda. The left was able to publish rings around them, partially because of Jewish money, maybe mostly because of Jewish money. And that propaganda was something in lying and deceit came naturally to the left in general and to Jews in particular. the right-wing Russian press was relatively small
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Starting point is 01:01:55 A few more paragraphs. Yet the encyclopedia, I'm sorry? I said I see now. This is the end. Yeah. Yet the encyclopedia notes, Despite all this propaganda, bureaucratic circles were dominated by the idea that the Jewish question could only be resolved through emancipation. For instance, in March 1881, a majority of the members of the Commission for arranging the Jewish way of life, tended to think that it was necessary to equalize the Jews and rights with the rest of the population.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Raised during the two decades of Alexandria reforms to bureaucrats of that period were in many respects taken by the reforms triumphant advances. And so proposals quite radical and favorable to Jews were put forward on several occasions by governors, governors general of the regions constituting the Pailest settlement. All of the committees that we spoke of from Dershavan on down, all saying the same thing about, especially the early ones, about Jewish exploitation, all of this is ignored. It suggests to me that many of these people were in business with prominent Jewish interests. I can't imagine if they're involved in a grain trade at all, how they could avoid it. So either they shielded themselves from this knowledge, or they just had to deal with cognitive dissonance. They knew this wasn't good for Russia, but they made money from it. And they had the empirical evidence about how bad things could be with Jewish exploitation from the Djaven Committee on down, but decided to completely ignore it.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Let's not overlook the new initiatives of the influential Sir Moses Montsefior, who paid another visit to Russia in 1872 and the pressure of both Benjamin Disraeli in Bismarck on Russian state Chancellor Gorsakov at the Berlin Congress of 1878. Gorshachov had to uneasily explain that Russia was not in the least against religious freedom and did granted fully, but religious freedom should not be confused with Jews having equal political and civil rights. Yet the situation in Russia developed towards emancipation, and when in 1880 the Count Loris Melikov was made the minister of the interior with exceptional powers, the hopes of Russian Jews for emancipation had become really great and well-founded. Ammancipation seemed impending
Starting point is 01:04:13 and inevitable. And at this very moment, the members of Naradneva Volja assassinated Alexander II, thus destroying in the bud many liberal developments in Russia, among them the hopes for full Jewish civil equality. Sliostberg noted that the Tsar was killed on the eve of Porum. After a series of attempts, the Jews were not surprised at this coincidence, but they became restless about the future. The people's will, Rodnaevoyah, as you mentioned, was one of the first openly terrorist organizations. The two men who murdered the czar, or who pulled the trigger, were not Jews. And I think that was quite deliberate. But the people's will, whatever that might mean, was a Jewish organization.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And we'll see when Alexander III, after the murder of Alexander the 2nd, what Alexander the 3rd is going to do. And I think enough people, given the terrorism then went into full swing for a while, although Alexander III, because he was very strict, did stop it for a while. You know, they murdered a patron of theirs. Just showing the contempt. It didn't matter what they did for them. Their contempt for the monarchy for Russia. Alexander the second, if you figure he would be the last person,
Starting point is 01:05:38 that they would execute. But it shows the depth of the hatred and how bad things are going to get. And this is what caused the rift and the pogroms, which are usually started by the Jews against Russian. More Russians were killed in them than Jews. Jews were better armed than the Russians who often weren't armed at all. I have an article on that the news. nonsense of the programs. But that's why they came into existence. And as more money and more power
Starting point is 01:06:04 flow to them, the more arrogant they became and the more open their hatred for Russians became, including straight out violence. All right. That is the end of chapter four. In a few days, we'll come back and pick up in chapter five. So as I do at the end of every episode, check the description of the video you're watching or where you're listening in podcasts. There are links to support Dr. Johnson's work because this is what he does full-time. And the reason why he has this knowledge is because your donations allow him to do this full-time. That's very true. Let's keep him doing that.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So I will see in a few days, Dr. Johnson. Thank you very much. All right, my friend. See you soon.

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