The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 28
Episode Date: April 19, 202558 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson c...ontinue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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I want to welcome everyone back to part 28 of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson.
Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today?
I don't know about you, but I am definitely excited to continue.
And we're actually making progress here, page 172.
You know, I thought it would be another three months before we got here.
But, you know, I'm actually seeing progress.
Yep.
And, yeah, we're, people are estimating.
People are like doing pools in some of the chats.
I'm in to see how many episodes this whole thing is going to be.
so that's actually yeah i'm not sure if i would take that bed i don't know yeah somebody said well if we
keep at this pace it'll be 109 which would be um ironic so well that wouldn't be that wouldn't be an
example of irony but um i get what you mean and uh boy let's let's shoot for that let's try to shoot
for that as you can all right although i think maldives just became 110 oh i haven't caught up
with that. All right. All right. But I think 109 is still more, more infamous. Yeah, it's,
iconic at this point. Okay. All right. Here we go. Continue in reading. Restrictions also
affected the bar, the independent body of lawyers set up at 1864. This profession paved the way for a
successful career, both financially and personally, and to convey one's ideas. Advocacy by lawyers
in court were not subject to any censorship.
They were published in the press, so that the speakers enjoyed greater freedom of expression
than the newspapers themselves.
They exploited it widely for social criticism and for the edification of society.
The class of solicitors had transformed themselves in a quarter of a century into a powerful
force of opposition.
One should remember the triumphal acquittal of Vera Zasoluch, Zasulich, in 1870.
The moral laxity of the lawyer's argumentation at the time strongly worried Dostoevsky, he explained in his writings.
Within this influential brotherhood, the Jews quickly occupied a preponderant place revealing themselves to be the most gifted of all.
When in 1889, the Council of the Sworn Attorneys of St. Petersburg published, for the first time in its report the data concerning the numbers of Jews in this trade,
the great St. Petersburg lawyer, AJ Passover,
renounced the title of member of the council
and was no longer a candidate for election.
I want to point out the Sulech trial.
She tried to murder the police chief of Petersburg,
and I think the evidence was pretty overwhelming.
She was in correspondence with Karl Marx, Jew, of course,
and she was acquitted.
And what
Solzhenitin is trying to get to here
was that it was the
the left was so powerful
from the power of the Jews
and had taken over
the legal profession to such an extent
that they could get someone like her
off and not in a good way,
in a bad way.
And yeah, and Dostoevsky
made a comment about this office in ancient Greece
because that's exactly how they functioned.
I bet you this
Passover name is a literal translation from the original Russian.
It's something else, but it's still pretty funny.
But especially in Moscow, St. Petersburg, in Kiev, definitely, Kiev, definitely,
Odessa.
The legal profession was like the banking profession.
Of course, clearly the two are related in many ways, and that had become essentially a Jewish fief.
But the Zasulich acquittal really was an outrage.
and but again how once of a tyranny
could Russia have been if such a thing is possible
if someone like that could be who was a dedicated revolutionary
who believed in murder as a way of life
and because she was female could get away with a lot
you know even today in America women convicted of major crimes
get about 25% of what a male with the same
record and the same crime would get. Back then it was even worse. So she was, she was acquitted from,
from, you know, the blatant assassination showing you that the legal profession at this point
was Judaic and was backing and supporting the revolutionary movement overwhelmingly.
In the same year, 1889, the Minister of Justice, Menacein, presented a report to Tsar Alexander
to the third, it was stated that the bar is invaded by Jews who supplant the Russians.
They apply their own methods and violate the code of ethics to which sworn in attorneys must obey.
The document does not provide any clarification.
In November 1889, on the orders of the czar, provision was made supposedly provisionally
and consequently able to escape the legal procedure, requiring that the admission to the number
of those avowed and delegated authorities of non-Christian confession will be hence
forth and until promulgation of a special law in the subject, possible only with the authorization
of the Minister of Justice. But as apparently neither the Muslims nor the Buddhists availed
themselves in large numbers of the title of lawyer, this provision proved to be de facto directed
against the Jews. From that year onwards, and for another 15 years, practically no unbaptized
Jew received this authorization from the minister, not even such brilliant personalities and future
advocates as M. M. M. Winnever or O. O. Grusenberg. They remained confined for a decade and a half in the role
of law clerks. Winnever even pleaded more than once in the Senate and was very much listened to.
The clerks, in fact, pleaded with the same freedom and success as the attorneys themselves
here, there were no restrictions. So so far in what we call modern Russia, in the late imperial period,
We have Jews taking over, even if they're not a majority, but essentially using the educational system to promote revolution and their own self-interest.
Now we have them taking over the legal profession for their own self-interest and promoting the revolution.
And this is the cause of these restrictions.
But I probably don't have to say that in every single textbook, it will say in English,
English or any other language. It will say that for no reason, because of this, the blind hatred
of Jews, they were limited and there were quotas and there were restrictions all over the place,
at least in those two areas, just because they were Jews. But it seems that in terms of Russian Jews,
wherever they went, they took it over, they used their connections, their network, their money,
and they bent it and perverted it for their own agenda,
which was some variant of the leftist revolution,
because as I said last week,
Zionists at this point were still a fairly tiny minority.
In 1894, the new minister of justice, N.V. Moraviev,
wanted to give this temporary prohibition the value of permanent law.
His argument was as follows.
The real danger is not the presence in the body of lawyers
of a certain number of people of Jewish faith,
who have rejected to a large extent the notion,
the notions contrary to the Christian norms, which pertain to their nation.
But it is in fact that the number of such persons become so great that they are likely to acquire
a preponderant importance and to exert an adverse influence on the general level of morality
and on the activities of that corporation.
In the bill, it was advocated that the proportion of non-Christian solicitors be limited
in east jurisdictions to 10%.
The Tsar's government rejected the project.
but, as Mr. Kroll said, this idea did not meet the condemnation it deserved in the Russian public opinion and within the society of jurists of St. Petersburg.
Only a few people protested vigorously. The rest, the vast majority, were clearly in favor of the draft at the time of its discussion.
This gives an unexpected insight into the state of mind of the capital's intelligentsia in the mid-90s.
In the St. Petersburg jurisdiction, 13.5% of the attorneys were Jews.
while in Moscow less than 5%. The prohibition for the clerks of solicitors to become themselves avowed
was felt all the more painfully because it followed limitations in the scientific careers in the service of the state.
It would not be lifted before 1984, a 1904. In the 80s, a limitation on the number of Jewish jurists was introduced in the provinces of the Pala settlement,
so that they did not have a majority within the juries.
And that was something that helped spring Zasulich, as we mentioned before.
And, you know, evidence didn't seem to matter in these cases.
Like the Belize case in Kiev, near Kiev, the ritual murder case.
We had a similar problem.
13.5% in Petersburg, that's a huge number that weren't that many Jews living there.
and but now juries it's the same thing and you consider you know what's the tellment but at this point
in russian history intellectuals especially you know orthodox intellectuals they knew what the
tellment was they had access to it at least in a bridge form which is really the only way a sane person
could read it and it's essentially their version of school anesticism there are these debates and
arguments. They hedge around the law as Michael Hoffman likes to term it. Their masters are finding
loopholes. This is part of what the Talmudic mentality creates. Equivocation, especially in terms
of definition and the usage of words, it's like any written law became a huge problem in the
hands of the Jews because they could make it say whatever you want. And if you don't have an
intellectual audience, you know, so the ordinary person, the ordinary,
juror, this can sound very convincing.
This was a matter of national security.
Zasulich should have been executed.
There's no doubt.
But because of all of these problems, she was able to be set free, acquitted.
And she became a major figure in the very early period of the Bolshevik movement,
as I mentioned, in regular correspondence with Carl Marx, of course, before this.
but she was not a minor person.
Everyone knew that.
So when you consider the mentality that the Talmud, if you're steeped in it,
that mentality that is going to create seems perfect for the law,
but only the kind of law where law is not something that you respect,
but something that is subject to manipulation and equivocation and fallacious reasoning.
And that was bad enough where it actually became a matter of national security.
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It was also from the 80s that the hiring of Jews and the Judicial Administration ceased.
There were, however, exceptions to this.
Thus, Jay Tidal, who had been appointed shortly after his university studies, remained there 25 years.
He finished his career ennobled with the civil rank of general.
It must be added that Shaglovitov forced him to retire of his own free will.
In the exercise of his duties, he often had, he, the Israelite, to administer odes to Orthodox witnesses,
and he never met any objection from the clergy.
J.M. Halpern, also an official in the judicial administration, had acceded to the high-ranking
position of deputy director of the Ministry of Justice and to the rank of secret advisor.
Halpern sat on the Palin Commission in the capacity of expert. Before that, the first
of the Senate had been G. I. Trottenberg and his deputy, G.B. Slithberg, had initiated himself to
defend the rights of the Jews. He was also first prosecutor of the Senate, S.J. Woutin, but he was
baptized and consequently was not taken into account. The religious criterion has never been a false
pretense for the Tsarist government, but has always been a real motive. It was because of this
that the old believers, ethnically Russian, were ferociously persecuted for two and a half centuries,
as well as later, the Ducobors and the Molokans, also Russians.
Yeah, so the Jews can't talk about any racial issue here.
There's been great Orthodox writers who at one point were Jews,
and quite legitimately were discussed with what they found.
Donald Paul Rosenberg was one of the best.
There's a few others, a handful of others.
and the old believers, for those of you who don't know, I'm very sympathetic to them.
It's an Orthodox body who rejected not only the alterations to the liturgy under the error of Zara Alexis,
but also condemned the Petrine State and the empire of Peter the Great and his successors as being that of the Antichrist,
because at the whole point of Russia in their minds was as the third Rome, the last defender of
of Orthodox civilization.
The old believers took over, I would say,
more than half of the Russian peasantry
by this period of time.
And they, of course, they were monarchists,
but they were monarchists in the old Muscovite tradition,
not the Petrogradian tradition.
An early book of mine is called Sobarnasti,
essays on the Old Believers,
which I published quite some time ago
on Diapara Press.
So these others are a little more bonkers.
Malakhanes, the so-called milk drinkers and Dukabors,
they're a bit more on the Gnostic side.
But clearly, it's not a racial matter.
And they saw, if there was a legitimate baptism,
a legitimate conversion of a Jew, he wasn't a Jew anymore.
And also remember, keep in mind always,
that Jew was defined as someone who accepted the Talmud and nothing else.
if you were a Karite you weren't a Jew in any legal sense of the term.
A Jew was almost by definition a Talmudist.
And so, and this was the case in a lot of the 109, almost all of those, especially
from the Middle Ages onward, the only people who were ever affected were those who accepted
the Talmud and hence the rabbis.
Those outside of that, although of course a tiny minority largely because
as the Talmud has destroyed them.
That small minority was never affected by any of this.
The baptized Jews were numerous in the service of the Russian state.
We will not discuss it in this book.
Let us quote under Nicholas I, the Count K. Nesselrod, who had a long career at the head
of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ludwig Chiglitz, who received the barony in Russia,
Maximilian Hein, brother of the poet and military doctor who ended his career with the rank
of state councillor, Governor General Bessack, General of the Suite of His Majesty Adelbert,
the Colonel of the Horse Guard Mevis, the Hears diplomats, one of whom was minister under Alexander
III. Later, there was the Secretary of State Perrets, grandson of the Tax Collector Abram Perrets,
generals Kaufman Turkestansky, and Kruliov, the Squire Solomon, Director of
of the Alexandrovsky High School, Senators Gredinger, Posen, in the police department,
Gurevich, Vissereraniov, among many others.
Was the conversion to Christianity, especially to Lutheranism, in the eyes of some considered
as easy? Are all the tracks open to you at once?
Sliusburg observed at one point an almost massive denial on the part of young people,
But of course, seen from the Jewish side, this appeared to be a grave betrayal, a bonus to the abjuration of his faith.
When we think of the number of Jews who resisted temptation to be baptized, one gains a great respect for this unhappy people.
Yeah, when I mention converted Jews, I'm referring to two different things.
I'm referring to an actual legitimate conversion, not something out of convenience.
And number two, a conversion to orthodoxy.
orthodoxy especially in russia
was a very difficult
is a very difficult religion to follow
the fasts are very strict
and you're standing
you know there are no pews or anything
you're standing in church for hours and hours and hours
both Saturday night and Sunday
and many feast days as well
so I would be suspicious of someone
who would especially if they're not a German Jew
that would convert to what of the Protestant sense,
because by comparison,
it's very, very easy.
And some of them, you don't have to do anything.
That would be a little bit more,
that would be, they're half,
you know, the Protestants were half-Dudeic anyway.
But Orthodoxy, that's a different story.
And anyone who would serve under Alexander III,
who was more than aware of the Jewish issue,
who was more than aware of the Talmud,
he had to have been properly vetted.
And it was up to the parishion.
clergyman or the abbot of the monastery, depending on where they convert and the bishop,
under whom these institutions function, it was up to them to make sure that this wasn't just a
matter of convenience. But given the sacrifices that you would have to make to be orthodox,
that wasn't, as it says here, that wasn't really an easy thing to do. Making matters worse,
your life was forfeit. If it was a legitimate conversion, your life is forfeit. You know,
the old tradition in some Hasidic sects, they, they, they,
have a funeral for you. Again, showing you that hatred. And there, it's not a matter of God,
or it's just that you're not a Jew anymore. And for a people who's very sensitive to how few
they are, losing, especially people at this rank, or who because of that reach of this rank,
that's a big deal for them. Their whole world revolves around how to compensate for fairly small
numbers. So when they mention Lutheranism, that's not really what I'm talking about when I say
conversion.
As far as I know, I can't think of any conversions to the old belief.
That's a very difficult thing to do by the Jews, but I'm sure they existed somewhere.
But going to Protestantism, which is much easier by comparison, there might be a little
bit of some leeway to be suspicious.
Formerly, it was with candor.
We divided people into two categories, ours and others.
according to the criterion of faith alone.
This state of mind, the Russian state, still reflected in its dispositions.
But at the dawn of the 20th century, could it not have thought a little and wondered whether
such a procedure was morally permissible and practically effective?
Could we continue to offer the Jews' material welfare at the cost of denying their faith?
And then what advantage could be derived from Christianity?
Many of these conversions were for pure convenience.
Some justified themselves by luring themselves.
I can thus be much more useful to my people.
For those who had obtained equal rights in the service of the state,
there no longer existed any restrictions of any kind whatsoever,
which prevented them from gaining access to hereditary nobility
and to receive the highest rewards.
The Jews were commonly enrolled without difficulty in genealogical records,
and even, as we see from the census of 1897,
one hundred and 96 members of the hereditary nobility counted Hebrew as their mother tongue,
amongst the nobility in their personal capacities and the civil servants,
they were 3,371 in the same case.
There even was, among the Brodsky, a family of modest artisans,
marshals of the nobility of the province of Akaterina Slav.
Just a couple of points here.
Hebrew is interesting, because very few Jews in Russia spoke Hebrew.
Even at the foundation of Israel in 1948, it was a dying language.
if if Israel hadn't been found and made that by force their official language it would have died out entirely
so I don't know what that means they're Hebrew I think that might be symbolic but if you if they're a legitimate conversion
versus an illegitimate conversion if you work with these people like you work in a bureaucracy
together or something you could it won't take long for you to realize which one's which because if if the if
conversion, they're not going to be talking about the Jews at all, if anything, like Don Rosenberg,
who was one of my first teachers, you know, they'll point out far more than the average Gentile
at the time knew about what a Jew is and the things that repelled them from Judaism, even asking
them why did you convert? That might, just that question alone, if they answer it straightforwardly,
can give you a clue. So 196 members, remember the hereditary nobility that largely came from
the 18th century. Prior to that, there wasn't really a hereditary nobility. But again, it proves
that it was the so-called religious belief, not the ethnicity or the race that mattered as far as
the Russians were concerned. Again, it was up to a number of people to decide whether or not
a conversion was real or not, because it is a terrible insult to bring someone into the faith and
give them communion and everything else and have it be completely phony. And someone would have to be
responsible for that. Someone who was just taken in by it, or God forbid, even bribed. So, but, you know,
clearly there were legitimate conversions that had nothing to do because, you know, this, again,
the religion is a difficult one. And it's an actual religion. There's a God here and everything.
It's not just a matter of ethnic promotion like much of Judaism is. But if, like it says above,
I could thus be much more useful to my people, well, how hard would it be to tell?
someone who's acting in Jewish interests while having converted versus one who acts like a normal Russian Orthodox Russian man.
That shouldn't be that difficult to do.
And under Alexander III, and even Nicholas, I can't imagine that that would be difficult to do something about where it becomes very clear.
I don't know that 100% sure.
I don't know of any specific confrontations that way.
Not to mention, I could also, I'm using my imagination here,
But the fact that there had to have been Jews who just held the revolution in contempt, the murder,
and realized that the only reason that there are restrictions on them is because of these lunatics, these Jewish fanatics.
That quite possibly may have been a first step in a legitimate conversion.
You're always going to have divisions.
I don't care how much they stress cohesiveness.
Jews knew, whether consciously or subconsciously, why they were discriminated against an individual.
many ways. They had to have known that. They know what they're responsible for. So Jews that were
more clear thinking had to have at some point said, these are the people who make it harder for me.
And I don't accept the revolutionary movement. Now, of course, we're only talking about a small
group of people. But clearly the Jewish hatred for that small group of people was limitless.
And I'm sure they, I can't think of a whole lot of the top of my head, but they had to have
existed. I think every Jew knew why.
they were discriminated against.
Whether or not they wanted to accept it
or deal with it,
where they were just in psychological denial,
that's another matter.
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But from the 70s of the 19th century onwards, Jews who sought positions in the administration
of the state began to encounter obstacles, and this became worse from 1896 onwards.
It must be said that few were those who aspired to the United States.
this kind of routine and poorly paid activity.
Moreover, from the 90s, the obstacles also affected the elective functions.
In 1890, a new Zemstvah ordinance was issued,
according to which the Jews were excluded from the self-management of the Zemstva.
In other words, outside the urban areas of the provinces and districts.
It was planned to not allow the Jews to participate in the electoral meetings and assemblies of the Zemstvos.
these did not yet exist in the western province.
The motivation was that Jews who usually pursue their particular interests do not meet the demand
for a real living and social connection with local life.
At the same time, to work in the Zemstva as an independent contractor to the title of
what was called the outsider element, element that would introduce into the Zemsfa several
years in advance, the explosive charge of radicalism was not forbidden to Jews, and there
they were many. Let's be clear what a Zemseva is. That, although it had existed prior to
Alexander II, it was a bicameral, self-governing ruling body at the county level. So you would
have a number of peasant communes involved in it.
and it tended to end up on the liberal side of things,
but this would be a place where Jews would love to have taken over.
And I have the feeling that at least in certain places,
the Zempsvah became a liberal force.
It was even called the Zempsva movement,
was another word for the liberal movement,
because you had certain former nobles,
possibly financed by Jews,
running for an election in these things.
Remember, other than the monarchy,
and the local governors.
Everything, all local government was fully elective.
Even the abbots of monasteries.
And it used to be that parish clergy were all elected and stanching for bishops.
That changed under the Petrine state.
But the only government that really affected your common person for any real length of time was either the county government,
a local government or the guild and commune, depending on what life you had.
And so there would only be an attempt to ban,
and a successful attempt to ban Jews from this,
if there wasn't a concerted attempt to take it over.
And because that really directly affects ordinary Russians on a day-to-day basis,
like the commune would or the Artel would in the cities,
that would have done a tremendous amount of damage.
and keep in mind too with all these things
all of these restrictions were extremely popular
with the common Russian
the common Ukrainian and the common Belarusian
the only time you met opposition
was like someone in the Russian Senate
which is mostly appointed
these were elites
maybe even oligarchs
who had business dealings with them
and when they say
not in the Western they mean within the pale
the pale the pale was
starting to fall apart as something that really mattered.
It just got more and more porous as time went on as Jews became more and more powerful.
But it's very important to notice that in 1890 they stopped the Jews from taking over this very important,
what we would call a county government today.
The restrictions in the Zemstvus did not affect the Jews of the Central Russian provinces
because the great majority of them resided in the cities and were more interested in urban administration.
But in 1892, there appeared this time a new provision for cities.
The Jews lost the right to elect and to be elected delegates to the Dumas and to the municipal offices,
as well as to hold any office of responsibility or conduct their economic and administrative services.
This represented a more than sensible limitation.
As delegates, Jews were admitted only in cities of the palest settlement,
but he or two, subject to a restriction, no more than one-tenth of a number of the municipal,
Spalduma, and again, on assignment for the local administration that selected Jewish candidates,
an annoying procedure to say the least. Particularly for bourgeois family men, as Sliusberg rightly points
out, what a humiliation for them in relation to their children, how after that can they
remain loyal to such a government? There has been no harder time in the history of Russian Jews in
Russia. They were expelled from all positions they had conquered. In another passage,
conquered. In another passage, the same author speaks with ambiguity of the bribes
received by the officials of the Ministry of the Interior to act in favor of the Jews. This was to
soften somewhat the rigor of the times. You know, again, they had to have known at some level
and their psyche the reason for all this.
They were never loyal to any real Gentile government.
The closest they ever came was in Britain, I think.
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with a Orthodox emperor actually would be the continuation of the Roman Empire
or a continuation of the Byzantine Empire dedicated to defending orthodoxy
and destroying its enemies, which is the job, essentially the job description.
being the restraining force for Antichrist, when of course, Antichrist is the Jewish Messiah.
But there was always been this tendency in the Jewish psyche.
I mean, subconsciously, they know, but they don't understand consequences.
I suppose there were plenty of them that would just think that, oh, my God, they hate us for no good reason.
How humiliating.
My God, I hate all these people.
Refusing to understand as to why they could never, you know, go to.
their own people who have done this caused these problems and condemn them, that was out of the
question. But rather they would deflect it onto the Gentiles. It was a classic Jewish neuroticism.
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for that very reason. They can't make that connection in their brain.
chains, although subconsciously, of course, they have no choice. And I think a lot of Jewish
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Yes, the Jews of Russia were undoubtedly bullied, victims of inequality and civil rights.
But this is what reminds us of the eminent cadet VA Makalikov, who found himself in the
emigration after the revolution. The inequality and rights of the Jews naturally lost its
acuteness in a state where the enormous mass of the population, 82%, that on which the prosperity of the
country depended, the peasantry, dull, mute, submissive, was also excluded from common law,
the same for all, and it stayed in the same situation after the abolition of serfdom.
For it also, military service was inescapable, secondary and higher education inaccessible,
and it did not obtain that self-administration, the rural Zemstva, which it much needed.
Another emigrant, D. O'Linski, a Jew, even bitterly concluded that, in comparison with the leveling up of the Soviets,
when the entire population of Russia was deprived of all rights,
the inequality and the rights of the Jewish population before the revolution appears like an inaccessible ideal.
We have gotten use of saying,
the persecution of the Jews in Russia, but the word is not fair. It was not a persecution,
strictly speaking. It was a whole series of restrictions, of bullying, vexing, admittedly, painful,
even scandalous. Well, I'm not, you know, I think that at least some of that is Solzhenitsyn
speaking. Now, the cadet refers to, that's not an actual like a military cadet. That's just a
nickname for one of the more establishment liberal parties.
And that became dominant in the federal Duma under Nicholas II.
Second after 1905.
And they tend to be, of course, being liberals, they don't have much of a connection with
the peasantry and is strictly or usually very urban, calling the peasantry, again,
that the whole prosperity of the country depends, dull mutant submits,
well there certainly aren't liberals they lived under their own law and they wouldn't have it uh any other way
they lived under completely self-governing either communes or artels and did have representation in the
zemstva um they were known to be quite trude but they certainly were were royalist they were extremely
hard working and i once um read substantially on how peasants
were viewed by urban people when these urban people actually went to live among them for a while.
And you should hear them.
The tremendous, overwhelming knowledge that the real Russian Orthodox peasant had of the land and of farming was beyond anything any agronomists could ever understand.
One of the most common compliments, I guess you could call it, is that urban people were convinced that peasants can talk to animals.
because, you know, their draft animals,
whether horses or even pets,
you know, cats and dogs for various tasks,
they were just extensions of the peasant.
They understood the natural world
with such a tremendous level of such a tremendously deep grasp.
There's nothing that these people couldn't do.
They knew more than, yeah,
even if they may have been just, you know, like semi-literate,
but that didn't mean anything.
When it came to farming, when it came to everything,
involved in that kind of life.
They were absolutely extraordinary
people, even their medicine.
Their population was exploding.
They had a normal 75
years,
you know, kind of like ours
life expectancy.
This is, they're
extraordinary. Well, common law, same for all.
Well, that's not the medieval way.
Laws depend on what role
you have in the society.
Now, a peasant can't be
held to the same law as someone
who works as a merchant, it doesn't even make sense.
Those are two very different kinds of lifestyle.
A common law then would have to be so vague that it really wouldn't matter.
Laws that pertain to the functions in society, that's the natural law.
That's the ancient understanding, going back to ancient Greece onward.
Only the modern world came up with the one law.
But laws that actually matter.
that was a matter of who you were
and who you were
always had an organization
usually an elective organization
that oversaw it
a guild so to speak
and the commune was just one of them
strictly agrarian
so for them to say dull
and submissed this is typical
urban mentality
and of course the cadets
were liberals they didn't understand any of this
and
although when they did come across
an actual peasant
and lived there.
I mean,
it wasn't just,
you know,
their ideal in their head
when they actually worked with them
and things like that,
they ended up with a completely different point of view
as to who these people were.
It was,
it was the ultimately,
the ultimate street smart level
when it came to their work.
They were considered utter geniuses
when it came to soil
and working with animals
to the point where it was almost superhuman.
And that was many years ago
when I went through the literature,
on that particular subject.
I never wrote anything on it.
I've mentioned it a few times.
But this common BS nonsense
that the peasants were just dull and mute,
that's essentially what it is.
Submissive, well, they accepted the government.
They believed that it was representative.
And especially in a religious
and ethnic level, it was.
18th century, a very different story.
But all the things that were very positive,
I mean, the peasants controlled the land.
the peasants control
they were totally self-governed
in their own systems
it was very hard for any law
at a higher level to penetrate
the commune they usually were
too large
you had rebellions all the time
just for this very reason it wasn't against the monarchy
but
generally a law wasn't a law
unless the commune or the
artel accepted it
and of course as we all know
enforcement was always very difficult at that
level. And this is a period of time where the peasants became the landowners. The nobility was
dying out. They had moved to the cities. Many of them had been corrupted, but certainly not all of them.
We talked about the Masonic connection. And the old belief, which was a very literate movement,
because their entire world revolved around the old books, dominated the peasantry. So it was a very
literate part of society, although specifically in Old Slavon.
the ancient books, which they knew at a tremendous level.
You can't be an old believer and not be literate.
It doesn't work that way.
Now, they had elective, the old believers had elective everything.
You know, clergy, bishops, everything else, going back to old Muscovite tradition.
So I get upset when I hear these liberals, like Michaelakov talk about this, you know,
essentially mocking the people that feed them every day.
And keep in mind, too, with this period of time, let's say,
turn of the 20th century,
Russia was feeding the world.
It was this back and forth between the U.S., you know, the Midwest in the, in America,
and Russian wheat, dry, grain, etc.
That fed the entire world.
Russia was slightly larger in that respect, but it was only, it was limited because,
you know, there wasn't a lot, not a lot of, not a lot of that was going on in Siberia,
but in the central regions of Russia, the production was extraordinary, despite,
all the negatives that go along with that soil and weather and problems with, you know,
communications and roads and everything else.
Russia was feeding the world at this point.
And when the Soviets took over, they were putting urban people in charge of agriculture,
who knew precisely zero about it.
The party early on was sending these Jews to create the collectives.
They didn't know the first, none of them didn't know the first thing about farming, but they hated
it. And they certainly hated the peasantry, which is why the only thing, really, that the Soviets,
especially in the first half of the empire, could ever deliver and produce was famine. And it's precisely
this mentality, you know, trying to turn agriculture into just another mechanized form of production.
This is what caused the deaths of millions of people. They didn't understand this about the
peasantry. They had this nonsense
Judeaic conception
of the goyum
and the ultimate goyum was either
the monarchy on the one hand
or the peasants, the Orthodox peasants
on the other. They hated
both sides of that and the
fact that it was essentially unified
for a long, especially in the Muscovite era, but even
under Alexander III,
they were still unified
in a lot of different ways.
Especially the Slavophile movement, they had
a very eccentric approach to all of this.
And Dostoevsky certainly agreed with this understanding.
But the rejection of what a peasant really was,
the total lack of understanding is what caused millions of deaths in the 20th century.
And putting people like him or these Jews in charge of agriculture
who knew nothing, nothing, nothing about it is what caused a famine.
Having no idea what production is in that.
that world. These are the people who put together the collective forms and were sent to steal
anything that wasn't nailed down in the peasant communes, which of course they eventually destroyed.
You would think that a socialist movement would love the peasant commune because it was a form
of Christian socialism. No, they can give a damn about any of that. It was about control and
destroying the church far more than it was. You know, you had legitimate, successful socialist enterprises
and all the guilds and the communes, even the monasteries.
And yet, well, you would think that an actual socialist would like that and nurture it.
No, that's the first thing they did was destroy it because it had nothing to do with labor or the peasantry.
But this mentality, the cover story for this coming bond review, I don't know if I mentioned that,
is applying this very same insight to the starvation tactics used by the Jews in Kazakhstan.
on. The governor's appointed by Stalin in that unfortunate part of the Soviet Union were Jews.
And their contempt for the population there led to not just massive famine, but the population
almost fell by half. And it's the exact same mentality. You put these people in charge of
all things, agriculture, that's what you're going to get. And it comes from this mentality.
that don't mute submissive
these all sound like insults to me
and certainly to a liberal they would be
and even in modern
academics
that you have peasants were loyal
because they didn't know any better
well then they don't know very much
about the peasantry if that's the case
it is unfortunate though
that the Jewish elites were able to manipulate them
but even as time went on
and the reforms especially in Alexander II
that era
that was
You know, that became more and more difficult from the Jewish point of view.
But the peasantry was Russia to a great extent.
The peasantry and the urban artel, this, this orthony common population, this was the,
this is what Zarnigalus swore himself to when he first took over because he despised that,
same thing for Alexander, despised that arrogant urban point of view looking down on all of these people.
And this is why Alexander III created the peasant land owning and landholding class that existed nowhere else in Europe.
Around this time, I mean, we've come to a natural stop and we have a little bit of time.
I just wanted to ask you this.
From 1880 to about 1900, it appears that there was a not a mass exodus, but a good deal of Jews from Palis settlement and from Russia.
had made their way to the United States. Is that correct?
Yeah, in fact, I think we spoke about that last time. Was it maybe Saturday or last Wednesday?
I think we mentioned that fact. Yeah. And then, you know, people have asked in the past, they're like,
well, so when do you think things really started going wrong, you know, in this country? And I said, well,
you know, you can obviously point to the war between the states. But in 1905, the quote unquote
Pogrom in Odessa, the United States sanctions Russia.
Okay, so why would the United States be sanctioning Russia for a pogrom in the
United, in Odessa in 1905?
It seems like it didn't take them less than 20 to 25 years to start having undue influence
on the government itself.
Yeah, I'm willing to say in that case, the sanctions were not all-encompassing.
It's nothing, you know, they'd have any sense.
sanctions on the USSR, but they had sanctions on Russia prior to it and, of course, after it.
That, I'm willing to bet, came from pressure from London.
God knows the information that they were getting.
Americans were getting coming straight out of London and to a lesser extent Paris.
London was already a Jewish fief as it was.
And the Rothschild dominated finance.
the American banking elite came straight from London, Jewish or no.
And I think it was pressure from Britain and bad information because the sanctions or even just the condemnations that Britain placed on Russia.
And the fact that it housed the revolutionary movement in London for the most part, that had been going on for some time.
Don't forget what the propaganda that came out of Britain during the Crimean War,
you know, say roughly 50 years earlier, roughly.
That's where, you know, the anti-Russian Russophobia that we still deal with today had its beginning there.
That the Russian Tsar was Antichrist, Gog and Megh, Gog, all this stuff.
Zar Gogh was their name for Nicholas I for a while in the London press.
that Russians weren't European,
that they were savages, all this.
This comes from the Crimean era.
And one of the accusations
was that they don't like Jews.
They hate Jews for no good reason.
We in London, of course, love them.
And that propaganda had been leaking in
and then came in to a great extent into the U.S.
So I'm going to point the finger to Britain in that regard.
But the flood of propaganda,
and I have read this to some great extent
about what, you know, just blatant,
anti-Russian stuff that was just absolutely mindless during the Crimean War,
which Karl Marx, by the way, was very much a part of.
He vehemently condemned the anti-war movement in Britain
because Britain wasn't doing well in that war.
And you did have anti-war protests
that Karl Marx absolutely condemned with every bone in his body
because pretty much most of the
Judaic socialist movement at the time
including people like
Engels who wasn't a Jew
saw the bulwark against revolution
was Moscow
or Russia I should say
over and over again they said the same thing
now the Rothschild said it over and over again
get rid of Russia we won't have any problems
Austria is very divided Turkey's on its last legs
the chaos in the Balkans
it's it's Russia they're they're too large and when oil was discovered that was that's they freaked out
population was exploding um so i want to blame the the british for that as brief as as those
sanctions were only on specific things um my opinion on the matter is prohibition you know
I had a phase where I studied a lot of organized crime stuff.
Prohibition was the start of really the dominance of Jews over organized crime in the 20s.
And not just that, but the importing of heroin for the first time into the U.S. came from Jewish organized crime.
It wasn't, you know, murder ink was a Jewish body.
Lucky Luciano later on
was very much in thrall
to
Meyerlansky
and even before that
Rothstein
they were more powerful than the Italians
although the Italians get all of the attention
the Jewish mob was simply
had more money, they had more power
and I would say the Jewish
especially then the very early
forms of pornography
that you can find in the 20 early 30s
was Jewish from Rothenburg
and then all of a sudden you have this explosion
of First Amendment cases. First Amendment wasn't a big issue
prior to the 20s in the U.S. Not a whole lot of cases
especially Supreme Court cases but all of a sudden
pornography becomes a problem. The same mafia
that thrived during prohibition
and didn't go away when liquor was legal
were deep into porn and girls at the time.
I mean, actually, they went together.
That's when I think they came to become a wealthy and very powerful
part, a negative part of the American landscape
as an organized force.
I'm not saying that they weren't powerful before,
but they came into their own as this anti-social force
during prohibition.
because I don't think there's a lot of difference between Jewish power,
let's say, in Russia in this period of time,
and how an organized crime syndicate would work, say, in America in the 20s.
Because they were ethnic.
And whether you like it or not,
Normie has to be told that the Jews were far more powerful than the Italians were in that regard,
in that era.
And they had more money.
They were more bloodthirsty.
You know, the Italians, you know,
Families weren't touched for the Italian mafia.
Policemen weren't touched.
The Jews, very different story.
They'd kill anyone who got in their way.
It's the most powerful mafia in America today.
And people couldn't even name one person.
There's no real enforcement.
And they're from Russia as well.
That's why they get to be called the Russian mafia,
though none of them have Russian names.
So I think that's when they came into their own.
Then, of course, FDR, I shouldn't even have to say.
this flood of Jews and went into the federal government.
But again, I'm not, I'm not against what you said,
but I think that was a very early manifestation of Jewish power.
What's interesting is if you, I've probably watched the Godfather part two,
10, 20 times, and they sort of give that away.
If Michael wants power, if Michael wants to be able to do what he,
what he has to do, he has to get rid of Hyman Raw,
who is the Meyer is a stand-in for Meyer Lansky because Hyman Roth is controlling everything and is standing in his way to even like take over a casino in in Las Vegas.
Well, Las Vegas was certainly a Jewish you know, Bugsie Siegel was absolutely their their creation.
But if you watch The Sopranos, wonderful show, you know, that's where I'm from.
I know the area very well.
Who's Hesh?
here's a Jew who gets treated like a made man
I mean even better than a made man
he was in on every decision
he was telling Tony what to do
Tony Soprano what to do
and no one in all the comment
no one asked who is this guy
how is this Jew functioning like a made guy
you see it in every mob movie
there's a Jew or two that just have
inexplicable amounts of power
I would recommend if
you haven't seen it is boardwalk empire.
I watch every episode for it.
As far as that, I love it.
And it went off the air too early.
I'm a big fan of the whole cast, really.
That was pretty accurate.
And how Luciano was essentially a student of Lansky and Rothstein.
There is nothing wrong.
And when Luciano became prominent, the first thing that the old boss has said is,
my God, this guy's working for the Jews.
He's the one who created a commission and everything else.
That was with Jewish money.
Yeah, in that show, Lansky was still fairly young,
but you could tell he was making it.
He was moving very, very quickly up the ranks.
You don't need to be a made guy in the Italian sense
to have power over the Italian mafia.
Hes in the Sopranos,
it's clearly either subconsciously or they deliberately inserted him in.
There's no explanation as to the power that this man has.
But it is a recognition, all of these.
It's a recognition, a cultural recognition of the fact that Jewish organized crime has always been more powerful than the Italians or the Irish.
It pisses me off that they're called Russian mom today, even though it's all Jewish.
But there's one group, you still have these 90-year-old Italians getting arrested for gambling or something stupid like that in Brooklyn.
but the very powerful and wealthy Jewish mafia in that same part of the world, the outer boroughs, nothing happens to them.
All right, we'll pick this up on Saturday.
And as I do at the end of every episode, I encourage everyone to go to the show notes, especially I have hot links in the videos and on the podcatchers.
So you can support Dr. Johnson's work and keep him unemployed so that he can keep us educated.
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it. Thank you, Dr. Shea.
Bye-bye.
