The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 33

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

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Yeah, my wife is working out in the yard. You have a beautiful yard now, and that means that she is in an extraordinarily good mood, despite her pain, arthritis. is. And so that means I'm in a good mood. So let's, you know, this is, this is going to be something different. If there's anything different about me, that's probably why. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, we're just waiting to, we're waiting for the action in the backyard. The yard is all set. Everything's planted. Everything's watered. Everything's strawed. Ready to go. Just waiting.

It's a good thing. Yeah. All right. Picking up where we left. off last time. And what about Russian folklore? The Dal Dictionary encompasses Great Russia and the Western provinces and Ukraine. Editions before the revolution contain a large number of words and expressions formed on the root of jid, Judeo. Significant detail in the Soviet edition of 1955, the entire topography of the page containing these words was revised, and the whole lexical niche between Jirki and Jigolo has been entirely, had been entirely suppressed. However, good. So why would they do that?

Why don't you tell everybody, since they're wondering? Well, I'm just, I'm just spitball in here. But it might be, it might be, because of the utter domination of the Jewish element in the revolution. at all points, at least up to the 1970s, and the fact that any kind of anti-Semitism was punishable by at least a stretch of time in the camps, they didn't want to give anyone any ideas.

That's probably why. But I'm just spitball in here. I've got to ask you a question about that. Maybe we'll see if we have some time at the end. All right. Continuing. However, amongst these expressions quoted by Dahl, There are some which are inherited from the Slavonic Church, where the word jid was by no means pejorative.

It was the name of a people. There are also some that come from Polish and post-Polish practice within the pale of settlement. Still, others were introduced into the language at the time of the troubles in the 17th century, at a time when in greater Russia there was almost no contact with the Jews. These inheritances are also reflected in the dictum. that Dal mentions in their Russian form, but we can guess under the latter the southern form, and what is certain is that they did not leave

the bowels of the ministry of the interior. And then, let us not compare these sayings with others. Oh, how the people created malicious adages against the Orthodox clergy. Not one almost is favorable to it. A witness of Maripal, and he is not the only one, it is a well-known fact,

tells us that among them, before the revolution, there was a clear distinction between the two words Ivri and Yid and Yid. The Evri was a law-abiding citizen whose morals, conduct, and behavior towards others did not differ in any way from the surrounding environment, while the Jid was the Jidover, the swindler. And it was not uncommon to hear, I'm not a jid, I'm an honest, Evry, I do not intend to dupe you. Such words put into the mouths of Jews, we find them in literature, and we have also read them in the pamphlets of the populists. You know, Chris Rock has a very similar stand-up routine where he makes the same distinction among black people. I think most people have heard it by now. Chris Rock is definitely

someone that base people can listen to and laugh. Of course, these aren't ethnically. You know, the Hebrew section isn't an actual reality. But Yiddish. The semantic differentiation we must never lose sight of when interpreting sayings. All this is the trace of an old national quarrel on the territory of the west and southwest. For neither in Central Russian nor in the North and East, not even during the general shock of October 1905, there weren't any anti-Jewish pogroms. If there was indignation, it was against the

revolutionary intellectuals in general, against their jubilation and ridicule the manifesto of October 17th. But this does not prevent, in the eyes of the whole world, the pre-revolutionary Russia, not the empire, but Russia, to bear forever the seal of infamy, that of the pogroms and the black hundreds, and it is indelible, encrusted in minds for yet many centuries to come. The anti-Jewish pogroms have always and exclusively broken out in southwestern Russia, as it was the case in 1881, and the Kishinif program in 1903 was of the same nature. Yeah, this is the most famous or infamous of all of the programs. This comes up even like your ordinary Jew in the street is going to know,

about this. 1905, 1906 was the first, well, I shouldn't even say that, probably the second attempt at a Russian revolution. Of course, it didn't overthrow the monarchy, but it did force Tsar Nicholas to lay out, well, it turned out to be a disastrous policy, an elected legislature. Well, of course, the monarchy still had tremendous power. the Duma, which also comes from the Russian word for thought, for thinking, turned out to just be, at least in the beginning, turned out to be a seat of constant descent. It's often the case that in these elections, there were four of them, four specific Duma elections up until the end.

the left, as they always do, lied about their point of view. They would never go to the common population and say, we hate, Nicholas, we hate, you know, we're going to collectivize agriculture there. We're going to impose a Masonic dictatorship. You know, they count their language in very different, in very flowery verbia, depending on what their audience was. the peasants didn't want to hear any of this but of course the Jewish influence and the Duma was tremendous

it was a mistake but it's hard to blame Nicholas for this we didn't know how it was going to work out but the one thing about the Duma to remember is that it just shows that the monarchists and the real Russian nationalist didn't

were still struggling to organize they never grafts the concept of propaganda of laying out a program this is why you should defend the crown. The crown itself was usually above that kind of thing, which is true. That didn't mean his supporters couldn't do it. This is also the era of the rise of the Black Hundreds, which was a self-defense organization founded mostly in Ukraine.

And most of this stuff occurred in today's Ukraine, in and around the Odessa area on the Black Sea, where Jews were concentrated, probably the most concentrated part of the entire empire in the Odessa region, you know, eastern and central Ukraine. This is mostly where they

occurred, but the violence, the terrorism of some of these Jewish groups is one of the reasons that this broke out. And there were plenty of monarchists who didn't like the idea of Duma. It was a mistake, but the only thing it really did was it gave the left an outlet. And yet,

At the same time, the right really struggled to put a program together. It's very depressing. Let us not forget that at the time the population of Bessarabia was largely illiterate. That in Kishaniv, there were 50,000 Jews, 50,000 Moldovans, 8,000 Russians, in fact, mainly Ukrainians, but the difference was not noted, and a few thousand others. What were the main forces responsible for the pogroms? The delinquents of the pogroms were mainly Moldovans. The Kishinaev pogrom began on April 6th, the last day of the Jewish Passover, and the first day of the Orthodox Passover. This is not the first time we observed this tragic link between the anti-Jewish pogroms and the Passover of Christians in 1881, 1882, and 1889 in Nikolaev, and it fills us with extreme pain and anxiety.

Let us use the one document that is based on a rigorous investigation carried out right after the events. This is the indictment issued by the local court prosecutor, V.N. Gorimikin, who did not call a single Jew as an accused for which he was harshly vilified by the reactionary press. As we shall see, the court first sat in closed session to not exacerbate the passions, and the indictment was originally published abroad in the emigrated press organ of Stuttgart, the Stuttgart release. The document begins with an account of the usual clashes between Jews and Christians has happened in recent years at Easter and the animosity of the local population toward the Jews. It says that two weeks before the Passover, rumors circulated in the city,

announcing that there would be, during future holidays, aggressions against the Jews. A newspaper, the Bessarabits, the Bessar Arabian, had played a role of blaster in publishing day after day throughout the last few weeks incendiary articles strongly anti-Jewish, which did not go and noticed among small clerks, pencil pushers, the entire little people of Bessarabia. Among the last provocative articles in the newspaper was the one about the murder of a Christian child in the village of Dubassery, allegedly carried out by Jews for ritual purposes, and another rumor ran that a Jew had murdered his Christian servant when she had actually committed suicide. And the police of Kishchev, what did it do? Did not give any particular consideration to the rumors, and despite the fact that in recent years,

there has been regular infighting between Jews and Christians. The Kishinaw police did not take any serious preventative measures. It only reinforced the patrols for the holidays in the places where the crowd was going to be the dentist by adding men recruited from the local garrison. The chief of police gave no clear instructions to, his officers. In the Barnes Review, I published a lengthy paper on the pogroms. I have it probably floating around the web in various places.

You could post it. I could send it to you, too. I have it. But, oh, good. These rumors often were promoted by the Jews themselves. They, unlike many of the Russian nationals, were excellent at psychological warfare and propaganda. This area was the densest

in terms of the population of Jews. They at this point had angered pretty much everybody. We'll get here in a minute why he picks out the Moldolvans as the at least the initiators here. But rumors were started by the Jews. I uncovered, and I think Shult and Eastern will talk about this too.

All of these pamphlets that Jews were sending around to each other, once they were translated, It's about attacking Easter processions. You know, this was their territory. This is, I mean, it was, I think they're in the, the land of the old Khazar Empire. How relevant that is, I'm not sure. They are very close to the Black Sea anyway. The Jews had huge numbers.

They were very militant. They were well armed, as I've said many times before. And not really until the black hundreds were formed or the Union of the Russian people, which still exists. one of my favorite websites in Russian out there. Tremendous scholarly work, Mikhail Mazad of, one of my favorite authors, is ahead of it now, at least intellectually, operates in Russia with no problem. But this is the reason that it was a Ukrainian movement,

Russo-Ukrainian movement. But prior to the founding of the Union of the Russian people, it really was nothing. And of course, it's going to be noticed by the Jews, by the leftists. But for so many years, this program was lied about. They invented story after story. And every generation has just got worse and worse and worse.

How many people were killed for no reason? Babies raped. All that boilerplate atrocity, porn kind of stuff that they're very, very good at. But as the years have gone on and, and Selzin was my, this book was my inspiration to look into these things more deeply. the press at the time, including all backgrounds, had a very different story as to

what happened. And these parts of the Russian Empire were Jews were there in large numbers near the Black Sea. They usually were the aggressors for any number of reasons.

Zionism was not large enough of a movement. Although I think the Black Hundreds were the first group to really say they need to get out of here. And I don't care where they go. We'll force them into Palestine if we need to. But, but, and then the police, you know, remember, we talked about the police in these cities.

It was never a regular thing. It's not like the police we have today. There still really wasn't much of a prison system. This kind of thing, this sort of violence, is what forced the government to create one. We're probably in the midst of it here. But nothing like you had in the West at the time or definitely in the West today. So the empire or any normal healthy society wasn't prepared for this kind of activity. You know, the terrorism, the rumors, you know, rumors can be very dangerous.

You know, things got around, even before social media, things got around very quickly, although I have the tendency to think, again, it wasn't that the rumors came from the Jews themselves. They were by far the most cohesive group. and they were and they certainly were armed and motivated. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design.

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Repeated brawls every year for the Passover, rumors of such a content, and the police fold their arms. One more sign of the state of decline of the governmental machinery. For there are two things. either we let go of the empire, how many wars, how many efforts have been made to unite for obscure reasons, Maldavia with Russia, or we safeguard the good order which must reign over its entire territory. On the afternoon of April 6th, the streets of the city is invaded by people in celebration, with many teenagers wandering among the crowd, as well as angry people. The boys start throwing stones at nearby Jewish houses,

throwing harder and harder, and when the commissioner and his inspectors try to arrest one of them, They get stones in their turn. Adults then get involved. The police took no firm measures to stop the disorders, and these led to the sacking of two Jewish shops and a few sheds. In the evening, the disorders subsided. No assault had been perpetrated against the Jews that day. The police had arrested 60 people during the day.

However, on the early morning of April 7th, the very agitated Christian population began to assemble in various parts of the city and in the suburbs, in small groups which were, invoke Jews to clashes of increasing violence. In the same way, from the first hour on the new market, more than a hundred Jews had gathered armed with stakes and pickets, rifles even here and there, who fired a few shots. The Christians had no firearms. The Jews said, Yesterday you did not scatter the Russians, today we will defend ourselves. And some held bottles of vitriol in their hands, which they threw at the Christians they met. Pharmacies were

traditionally held by Jews. Rumors spread throughout the sea. city, reporting that the Christians were being assaulted by the Jews, they swell from mouth to mouth and exasperate the Christian population. One transforms were beaten into were slaughtered. One carries that the Jews have sacked the cathedral and murdered the priest. And now, in various parts of the town, small groups of 15 to 20 persons, each chiefly workmen with teenagers in their lead, who throw stones into the window panes, begin to plunder the shops, the premises, the dwellings of the Jews, smashing everything inside. These groups are gradually enlarged by the passers-by. Towards 2, 3 o'clock in the morning, disturbances spread in a more and more extended radius.

The houses where icons or crosses have been exposed in windows are not affected. In the sacked premises, everything was totally destroyed. The goods ejected from the shops to be trampled or stolen by individuals who escorted the attackers. They went so far as to sack the houses of prayer of the Jews and throw down the sacred scrolls in the street. Drinking places, of course, were sacked. The wine was poured into the street or drunk on the spot by the bandits. Well, that last sentence should tell you a lot. Despite the fact that the state had a monopoly over vodka, really any alcohol distilling, anything that was strong,

Qavas wasn't strong enough to be considered alcoholic but the Jews still maintained a strong underground like prohibition style control over that especially in Ukraine this didn't come from out of nowhere this came entirely from

Jewish behavior Jews were extremely aggressive in this regard you know you can't start the story like mid-sentence rumors rumors can change just like anything else talking about media manipulation on either side the very fact that there was media there that were defending the Christians

that's that for us that's you know when does that ever happen but these are and we all know how the Israelis respond to people throwing rocks apparently it's some sort of a they shoot them so rocks for some reason in the Jewish mind is the worst possible thing the Gaza Strip or the or the West Bank. He also notes that

the Christians didn't have weapons and there were no gun laws in Russian Empire. I think maybe certain cities may have had them but in the countryside it was you know, it didn't exist but Jews were armed and as time goes on

now of course that the Jewish encyclopedia is going to tell you that this was all just you know we had to defend ourselves that just wasn't the case. We've already been through, This is what happens when you have an empire who has now for over 100 years tried to deal with the Jewish problem and have failed, spent a fortune,

seeing this Jewish group getting more and more powerful for doing nothing, a criminal enterprise within the empire. And the empire, because of the money, because of the need for stability in these parts of the world, not to mention foreign pressure, yeah, there's restrictions on them, thanks to Alexander III. But again, you know, they function like a mafia.

These restrictions didn't necessarily have teeth in certain place, especially down the southern cities like Odessia and even in Belarus for that matter. So because of the absolute failure of dealing with it, having one commission after another, all this money being treated extremely well only to become the heart of the revolution. the endless terrorism that Jewish-dominated groups perpetrated, this is what happens. This is what happens. And what do they do? They throw rocks. And just like, you know, Solzhenitsyn is talking about in the Gentile press, in the Jewish press, which was the one that was believed in the Western world,

for no reason the government or some organized body, started shooting up Jewish synagogues for, you know, for fun or because they were jealous or something like that. That was the story that became the official one in the French and the British and certainly the American press. You know, I have so many writings on the absurd statements by Western politicians. You had, William Randolph Hearst was talking about slaughtering Russians because of the Belize case, because of the so-called pogroms. In fact, I have it in my paper. Politicians who get these ridiculous stories

that they're just being slaughtered for no reason talk about invading the Russian Empire. The deep hatred for Russia and Russians started during the Crimean War and reached a crescendo at the end of the empire. The only time there wasn't hatred was during the Soviet era. And now you have it again from 2009.

one with the Putin administration in 2000 with the Putin administration. Now that Crimean war hatred of Russia has returned, I have way too many papers arguing that the anti-communism, which did not exist, was anti-Russian. This was the key element of the neocan movement, since they were Jews from, descended from those coming from the Russian Empire, supporting Trotky to the point where they didn't care who they had to support, they were going to destroy the Soviets starting in the 70s. They only became prominent in the 1970s. It was a very Jewish movement. But that came from the mythic exaggerations and stories precisely from these kind of cases, which is why this is

very important, even today. The inertia of the police, owing to the absence of a proper command, caused these crimes to be penetrated with impunity, and this did not fail to encourage and excite the evildoers. The police forces left to their own devices, far from uniting their efforts, acted according to their instinct, and the subordinate policeman were mostly mute spectators of the program. However, a phone call was made to the local garrison to call for reinforcements, but whenever the soldiers went to a certain point,

they could not find anybody there, and in the absence of new instructions, they remained inactive. They were scattered in the city in isolated groups with no clear objective and no coordination with each other. They only dispersed the excited crowds. This garrison was not the most efficient, and moreover it was just after Passover many officers and soldiers were on leave. The inertia of the police engendered new rumors saying that the government would have allowed to attack the Jews since they are enemies of the country, and the pogrom unleashed, inebriated, became. and venomed. The Jews, fearing for their possessions and for their lives, lost all composure. Fear

made them go mad. Several of them armed with revolvers proceeded to counterattack to defend themselves. Ambushed on street corners behind fences, on balconies, they began to shoot looters, but awkwardly, without aiming at their targets so that it did not, so that it did nothing to help them and only aroused in the pogrom troublemakers had terrible explosion of rage. The crowd of plunderers were, was seized with rage, and where the shooting had resounded, it came at once to tear everything apart and be violent toward the Jews who were there. A shot was particularly fatal to the Jews. The man who snatched a young Russian boy, little Osteopov, from one, two o'clock in the afternoon, the blows of the Jews became more and more violent, and by five o'clock they were accompanied by

a series of murders. At half-past three in the afternoon, Governor von Robin, completely overwhelmed, passed an order to the chief of garrison, General Beckman, authorizing the use of arms. Beckman immediately had the city canvas, and the troops who had ventured out walked in good order from that moment on. From that moment on, the troops were now able to carry out mass arrests, and energetic measures were taken at nightfall. The program was under control. Now, be very careful here. I know what it sounds like he's endorsing the Jewish point of view. You'll see this in the next paragraph as well.

He's not. He will explain what's behind these. This is the official description, which he's repeating here. This is what most of us are taught. Whenever we take a Russian history course in college or something, this is what's in every history textbook. Well, actually, it's usually worse than this, because, you know, the Jewish position tends to be that the government of Tsar Nicholas, you know,

wanted this to happen and helped the violence long, and that somehow the Union of the Russian people were an official body and there were nothing of the kind. They were condemned by so many in the Russian government, but they were very popular. At their height, the Union of the Russian people, Black Hundreds had, at their height, just in Ukraine had a half million members. Think of all the liberal groups in Moscow and St. Petersburg. There were a tiny fraction of that. And it came from Jewish arrogance and Jewish violence. So what you're going to read here in a little bit, the next two paragraph, this is just the official description. This is not Schulzen-Eason's point of view.

The act stipulates the death toll. There were 42 deaths, including 38 Jews. All the bodies bore traces of blows by blunt objects, clubs, shovel, stones, and some blows of axes. Almost all were wounded in the head, some in the chest also. They had no traces of bullets, no evidence of torture or rape either. This was confirmed by doctors' expert opinions and autopsies, as well as the report of the medical legal department of the Central Administration of Bessarabia. There were 456 wounded, including 62 among the Christians. Eight were wounded by bullets. Of the 300,000, 94 Jewish wounded, only five were seriously injured. No trace of abuse except for a one-eyed man whose healthy eye had been ripped out. Three quarters of the men assaulted were adults. There were

three complaints of rape, two of which were prosecuted. Seven soldiers were wounded, including a soldier who had his face burned with vitriol. Sixty-eight policemen received minor injuries. There were 1,350 homes ransacked, almost a third of the houses in Kvriol. Kishniv, an enormous figure, the equivalent of a bombing. As for the arrest, there were 816 on the morning of April 9th, and in addition to the investigations into the murders, 664 persons appeared in court. In some authors, the figures of the victims among the Jews differ from the official statistics, but the gap is not very large. The book of the Jews of Russia estimates that there were 45 Jews killed, 86 seriously wounded, 1,500 houses and shops looted and destroyed.

Beekerman puts forward the figure of 53 dead, but maybe not all Jews. The recent Jewish Encyclopedia states 49 people were killed, 586 wounded, more than 1,500 houses and shops looted. So that's the official point of view. That's actually a very moderate official point of view. I have never, prior to becoming a scholar in this area, I never heard. anyone say that Russians were killed in the programs.

I distinctly remember being taught very early in college that that this is one of the reasons that the czarist government had to go. This was the reason the revolution happened. They hated that killed Jews for absolutely no reason. Now that didn't make a lot of sense to me at the time.

I didn't have the knowledge to respond. But now this is what now, Socializ is going to give the details, and the devil, of course, is always in the details. This is the official description, but we sense what is hiding behind it. We are told only one person, one Jew with one eye, has had the other ripped out. We learned a little more from Coralenko in his essay House No. 13.

This poor man was called Mir Weissman. To my question, wrote Coralenko, did he know who did this? He answered with perfect serenity that he did not know, but that it kid, the son of his neighbors, had boasted that he had done it with a lead weight attached to a string. We see then that the perpetrators and victims knew each other rather well. Coralenko resumed, it is true that what I advance, I hold of the Jews themselves, but there is no reason not to believe their sayings. Why would they have invented these details?

And in fact, why would the family of Bensian Galanter mortally hit on the head invent that the murderers had placed nails all over his body? was not the family of the nisense, a necessin accountant sufficiently tried. Why would it add that he had been rinsed in a puddle before being massacred? These details are not fiction. You know, even today, even today, we, Americans don't know the difference between propaganda and actual fact.

They believe, you know, Pentagon press releases as if it's, you know, detailed scholarship. You remember when ISIS, which is a complete creation of the U.S. and Israel came out. I remember, that's about 10, maybe more than 10 years ago, maybe 2011 and 12, the stories that were, the deeds that were ascribed to them were so absurd. You hear the same thing about stuff in North Korea. You know, baby raping, slave markets, right out in the open. Just things that didn't make a whole lot of sense. You know, chopping women's hands off for the tiniest, tiniest little thing.

And I got immediately suspicious. This doesn't make sense. There have been Islamic groups of all different types in these areas. They've never done anything like this in recent memory. And why are they wearing black in the desert, for Christ's sake? What was always my favorite about, you know, it's completely, it's a Hollywood. production. I know that now, but people still buy it. People still buy this nonsense. They're, crying as they're reading the newspaper. I don't think people back then were aware. I mean,

propaganda was just, it's an infant industry. And one of its early manifestations in a mass press that eventually went to Britain and the U.S. was over this stuff. And people, you know, didn't understand what this stuff isn't true. But now it's gotten to the point where propaganda porn, atrocity porn, is so boilerplate. It's the exact same language. They just fill in the blanks for different countries. And there's always the enemies of the U.S. that are doing things like this.

The minute you start hearing these extreme forms of torture and just the most heinous kind of behavior done like it's no big deal, you should get immediately suspicious. What would be the point of this? We talked about the North Korean defectors making up the most ridiculous stories that would cost a fortune to torture someone in these ways. But I don't think people were aware of this kind of psychological warfare at the time. But to those who were far from the events, so the agitators of public opinion,

these horrors were not enough. What they remembered was not tragedy, misfortune the dead, but rather had to exploit them to strike the Tsarist power. And they resorted to terrifying exaggerations. To overcome reactions of horror, to try to see clearly in the versions built up in the months and years following, would it not be minimizing the tragedy, and to attract many insults? But to me, it clearly is a duty because we took advantage of the program of Kishiniv to blacken Russia and mark her forever of the seal of infamy.

Today, all honest historical work on the subject demands a distinction between the horrible truth and the treacherous lies. The conclusion of the incident is the following. The disorders have reached the magnitude described only because of the inertia of the police deprived of an adequate command. The preliminary investigation did not find any evidence that the disorders had been premeditated. And I said this before, but it's very important to reiterate, for all the nonsense, that Zaris Empire was some sort of a tyranny. They didn't have regular law enforcement. They were not used to this kind of thing.

They really didn't know what to do. Today, we have riot squads. They practice, you know, South Korea has an entire mobile combat unit that does nothing but a quench riot. Back then, you know, this only comes with the unnatural distortions of social life that the Jews bring. You know, there was always, you know, peasants' unrest in various places and things like that. But this is of a different order.

These huge urban riots, the police didn't react because they really, at this point, they didn't have the manpower. They certainly didn't have the training and having to call in the army. And they're not shooting Russians. That's very, it's a lot to ask, especially of a conscript. they may defend themselves. So they just simply weren't ready for this kind of thing. The court system was so overwhelmed. This was meant for a normal peaceful Russia.

But now all of a sudden that that system doesn't work. And it was a huge problem for the government, who, if anything, was way too lenient to the left throughout all of this. Being sent to Siberia, as I said before, is not a big deal. some of these communists wrote their best books out there there was no prison and they easily found their way back over the border you know it was a very a porous kind of system

so that was really if he wants to go that route as of right now yeah he's right but you know this wasn't it was very different in London or Paris or Berlin but in but in Russia tradition, family, the church, these private entities took care of a lot of that stuff.

You didn't need a formalized police force for it. You still had the whole medieval idea that fines, usually fines or restitution is what, you know, outside of murder or something like that or the way to solve to solve crimes. You didn't have it enough such where you had, you know, criminal law. You had it now, but it was only in the, its infancy. And I think that's what Solton Isson getting to here. These clues, no further investigation found them either. But so be it. The Office for the Defense of the Jews, which we have already mentioned, was attended by such eminent Jews. There's a list of

them here, Steliosberg and Posner, probably the most commonly known. As soon as the news of the program of Kishnev reached it, it excluded from the outset all possible causes of from that of a conspiracy fomented from above? Who gave the order of organizing the pogrom? Who took the direction of the dark forces that perpetrated it? As soon as we learned of the climate in which the killings of Kishnev took place, we did not doubt that this diabolical undertaking had been concocted by the police department and carried out at his command.

Although, of course, the wretches kept their project secret, wrote Kroll in the 40s of the 20th century. But as convinced as we are that the... the killings of Kishnav were premeditated in high places with the tacit agreement and perhaps at the initiative of PLEV, we can unmask these high-placed assassins and expose them to the light of the world only on one condition if we have the most indisputable proofs against them. That is why we decided to send the famous lawyer Ziridni to Kishiniv. He was the most suitable person for the mission we had entrusted to him. He undertook to reveal the hidden springs of the Kishiniv. He undertook to reveal the hidden springs of the Kishnav massacre, after which the police, to divert attention, arrested

a few dozen thieves and looters. Recall that in the aftermath of the pogrom, 816 people were arrested. Zerudni gathered information and brought back material of exceptional importance. That is to say that the chief person in charge, the organizer of the program, had been the head of the local security, K. Lewendal, a gendarme officer who had been appointed to Kishinaw, shortly before the program. It was at his command that the police and the troops openly lent to hands of the assassins and looters. He would have totally paralyzed the action of the governor. It is known, however, that in Russia, neither the police nor the troops were under the orders of the Okrana. This stuff, these lies, it wasn't just, you know, they were defaming an entire people.

that it had foreign policy implications for the West. Presidents and prime ministers would reference this when they're talking about various policies, including their support of the revolutionary movement. That's why these are extremely important. I'm the first one on our side to really start tearing these apart in English, anyway, as been done in Russian before, because they're extremely important.

they're relatively ignored. So many of the, after Crimea, the Russophobic mentality came from this. So there was an immediate connection between, you know, British foreign policy, French foreign policy and the Jews of the, you know, the late imperial, late imperial Russia. Notice what they're doing here is they're building a conspiracy theory. That, you know, if someone like me would do something like this, you'd be attacked in public. They're building this whole very complicated structure.

There's this narrative with all these moving parts. And of course, the point of which is to say that nothing's their fault. And the horrible royal government is just out to slaughter Jews for no good reason. That said, exceptionally important material which denounced the guilty with absolute certainty was never published either at that time or later. Why? But because, if it had been so, how could Lewendahl and his accomplices escape punishment and dishonor? This material is known only by hearsay, a dealer named pronin, pronoun, and a notary named Pissarievski would have been found several times in a certain cafe, and on Lewendal's instructions, would have planned the pogrom. And it was after these meetings that all the police and the troops opted for the pogrom.

The prosecutor, Gorimkin, examined the charges against Lowndahl and declared them unfounded. The journalist Crucivain, whose incendiary articles had really favored the program, was stabbed in Petersburg two months later by Pinhaus Dashefsky, who wanted to kill him. The authorities during this time continued the investigation. The director of the police department, A.A. Lupikin, with his liberal sympathies, he was unsuspecting. in the eyes of the public, was quickly dispatched to Kishchev. Governor von Rodden was dismissed, along with several other senior officials from Bessarabia. A new governor was appointed, Prince S.

Urosov, soon to be a prominent KD, and would sign the appeal to the rebellion called Viborg's appeal. A bulletin from the Minister of the Interior PLEV was published in the messenger of the government of April 29. in it he stated that his indignation at the inaction of the authorities of kishenov he called on all provincial governors city governors and police chiefs to vigorously halt all violence by taking all possible measures the phrase prominent kd he's referring to a liberal party in uh in the duma um they were called cadets uh for you know in short uh the viborg appeal viborg is in finland it was

when the monarchy had enough of the duma who was you know who went totally in on the pogrom thing the monarchy had to go um they went into so many of them went into exile and that's where the byborg appeal was was written um but the fact is that once the czar was overthrown he did not abdicate that's a whole separate story he did not it's a myth uh it's a forgery but once the czar wasn't there anymore. The provisional government engaged in a huge investigation as to Tsarra's policy. I really only came across this when I was writing my first book. And you have a group of people now. These are the people who just overthrew the monarchy.

They have every reason to find him to be an evil man. We were in the right. This doc is extraordinary. They were very honest men. They found nothing. corruption almost non-existent this is this is this is a provisional government here completely cleared Rasputin of any wrongdoing

this is not well known in the West but you know monarchists know all about it and it's substantial so many of the and the programs are mentioned that there was nothing you know there was nothing from the state that would encourage any of this, especially in a part of the world,

in a part of the empire that was very wealthy, they could not afford, they needed this tax money, they needed this income. You can't have constant unrest, which is very expensive in very wealthy areas. That's why the state was put in this terrible position. They couldn't have it, even if they may have sympathized, not so much with the killing, but with any kind of uprising against the Jews, they needed this. Not to mention the very powerful international pressure, especially from Britain.

I think Schultz needs to get to mention this at some point maybe in the future. I don't remember if I got it from here or somewhere else, but the investigative committee completely exonerated the royalist government of everything that the very same people were accusing him of just a few years earlier. It's very extraordinary. and no one knows about it because it would destroy the entire liberal myth about it and the programs are just one thing but everything that these very same liberals that created them or the masons that created the masonic provisional government was accusing the monarchy of they then when they look deeper

realized that it wasn't true they admitted that it wasn't true so you that means a lot that means far more than if the monarchists are going to say that. It's a almost total exoneration. When I first came across it, I couldn't believe what I was reading. I said, these guys were really honest at least that everything that they had accused wasn't true. And the programs were a part of it. They had nothing to do with any of that. That was never the case. They didn't talk like, you know, I'm talking about it, where the Jews were usually the aggressors. but that there was no policy that these other, you know, these Jews that created this whole conspiracy theory were promoting. But that conspiracy theory eventually became official Western history in Britain and the U.S.

And the fact that it's still being taught today is very depressing. And it's one of the reasons I got into this. I got so upset that this nonsense is being promoted either out of labor. laziness, out of conformism, out of ignorance or whatever, and that any attempt to write the wrong is met with derision. It's extremely irritating, but Solzhenitsyn's weight behind a lot of this helped quite a bit. I'm going to do one more paragraph, and then the rest of it will say we'll be able to finish the finish on the next episode, this chapter. All right. The Orthodox Church also expressed itself.

The Holy Senate issued a bulletin inviting the clergy to take measures to extirpate feelings of hostility toward the Jews. Some of the hierarchs, notably Father John of Kronstad, who were very much listened to and revered by the faithful, appealed to the Christian people, expressing their disapproval, their exhortations, their appeals for appeasement. They have substituted for the Christian holiday a sanguinary and satanic orgy, and Bishop Antony Kropovitsky declared, The punishment of God will befall the wretches who have spilled blood related to that of the God men, to his pure mother, the apostles, and the prophets, so that you know how much of the divine spirit cherishes the Jewish people,

still rejected today, and know that what is his wrath against those who would want to offend him. A text on the subject was distributed to the people. The long exhortations and explanations of the church, however, were not unrelated to an archaic state of mind, frozen for centuries and to be surpassed by the formidable evolutions in progress. Let me clarify here. If there were two churchmen who knew the Jewish question inside and out, it would be at the time St. John of Kronstadt and Metropolitan Anthony Kropovitsky. Krabavitsky actually led the largest exile group after the revolution, which we call the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia today, which eventually wound up in New York. He was the first metropolitan of that. If anyone knew the Jewish question, it was those two. It wasn't so much that

the Jews were innocent or the, it was that they spilled blood on Easter. They spilled blood on Holy week and after that they forced, you know, bloodletting of all periods of time in the Easter and that, you know, it didn't seem to be, it wasn't directed at anyone. It wasn't like there was one person who caused trouble. It was just random violence in their minds. Now, John of Cronstadt is a first-rate source for what the Orthodox Church's position was on the Jews. And it was very much, well, it was identical to ours. But the violence, but the violence is a According to them did absolutely nothing. It just brought down the way to the state against them.

John of Kronstadt was a member of the Union of the Russian people. He blessed their banners. They had meetings at his place. So don't think that this was in any philosemitic kind of way. Like you would hear that today. No, that was violence at the wrong time and bloodletting of Russians and Jews, many of whom were probably innocent, was outrageous, especially during the Easter season.

So that's what this is about here. All right. We will finish this chapter on the next episode. I want to, again, ask people to go to the show notes, and especially in the videos, which are on YouTube, Rumble, and Odyssey. And look in the show notes there, click on the links. and go support Dr. Johnson and the great work that he's doing. And thank you, Dr. Johnson, always.

You're welcome, my friend. I'll talk to you next time. Yes, sir.