The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 36

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

63 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson continue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonDr. Johnson's Pogroms ArticlePete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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So thank you for the support. Head on over to freeman beyond the wall.com forward slash support and do it there. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to part 36 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? you know i heard that um whoopey goldberg said that communism wasn't a bad thing and i heard i heard someone say that well it would make sense because she's so fat now

the communist system she would absolutely lose weight she would have no choice as far as their food policy goes so that's probably you know maybe a good thing in her particular case i would love to see that i would love to see her you know trying to down Stalin and the way they cackle on that friggin' show. I only know it from parodies. I've never actually watched it. All right, here we go. Picking up where we left off yesterday.

And it was there that the very powerful banker, Jacob Schiff, appeared. One of the greatest of the Jews, he who could realize his ideals, thanks to his exceptional position in the economic sphere. From his earlier years, Schiff took care of business affairs. He emigrated from Germany to New York and soon became head of the bank, Cube, Loeb, and Company. In 1912, he is in America, the King of Rail, owner of 22,000 miles of railroads. He also has a reputation as an energetic and generous philanthropist.

He is particularly sensitive to the needs of the Jewish community. Schiff was particularly keen on the fate of the Russian Jews, hence his hostility towards Russia until 1917. According to the Encyclopedia of Judaica, in English, Schiff made a remarkable contribution to the allocation of credits to his own government and to that of other countries, particularly pointing out a loan of $200 million to Japan during the conflict opposing it to Russia in 1904, 1905. Outraged by the anti-Semitic policy of the Tsarist regime in Russia, he eagerly supported the Japanese war effort. He constantly refused to participate in lending to Russia and used his influence to deter other institutions from doing so, while granting financial aid to the self-defense groups of Russian Jews. But while it is true that this money allowed the Bund and the Poli-Zion to supply themselves with weapons,

it is no less likely that they also benefited from other revolutionary organizations in Russia, including the SR, who at the time practiced terrorism. There is evidence that Schiff in an interview with an official of the Ministry of Finance of Russia, G.A. Velankin, who was also one of his distant relatives, acknowledged that he contributed to the financing of the revolutionary movement in Russia and that things had gone too far to put an end to it. I think we could all agree at this point that without Jewish money and without Jewish participation, there wouldn't have been anything even remotely close to a Soviet Union or a Russian revolution, whether or not World War I occurred.

Schiff is one of these guys that proves that the revolutionary movement and the Zionist movement really weren't opposed. The only thing they did really was they emphasized different things. but in Russia it was pretty clear that Marxism, less so anarchism, oddly enough, but anarchism to some extent, but Marxism was absolutely an ethnic movement. I think even in the West it was understood that way. I also find it interesting that wherever you go in Europe at the time, railroads were a very Jewish concern, no different than prostitution or alcohol. was the same thing in Austria-Hungary with the Rothschild.

They took a tremendous interest in rail. You know, it was essentially rewriting the entire topography of the country. It was in and of itself revolutionary. So, but again, this shows you that the mythology that was pouring out of the media in Russia has actual real, military, diplomatic, moral effects because the foreign policy of, I mean, this man was more powerful than some governments. It actually had a direct effect

on how countries approached and dealt with Russia. I do want to mention that the loan of 200 million, well, you know, yes, he was loaning money to the Japanese. Russia was a creditor nation like it is now. but in military affairs short-term loans were required and they were paid off pretty quickly

so it isn't like Russia was indebted it's almost the today it's almost the mirror image of the US owns nothing it's so deeply in debt Russia has some of the I think has the greatest gold reserves on the planet the U.S. has zero gold.

There might be pieces of paper that represent gold. There's pieces of paper that say this gold belongs to Germany, and whenever Germany wants a piece of it, they can't send it back. That was an embarrassing story. So Russia was always an abyss. Russia is one of the few countries then and now. That could be totally altarctic, completely self-sufficing, like a cat.

and everything they need just in their very few countries could do that. Russia is one. So foreign trade, unless it was for the benefit of a small minority, like we've been talking about in the past, isn't all that necessary to it. But oil and gas is, well, a very small percentage of the Russian economy domestically, maybe 10%, 9%. It's much bigger as far as exports are concerned. And that was very much the same here. I said last time, a few times now, that we're in a situation where the Russian economy was doing very well. Peasant proprietors were the norm.

The commune was very popular. Factory legislation. I mean, wages blew everyone else away. Taxes were very low. Everything was local. So, you know, and continuing to rise, population was. rising. With the discovery of oil, of course, you know, that changed everything.

But this is why it's so strange. How do you form a revolutionary movement when things are going very well? And this is, this was the Jewish puzzle. And all of this goes into creating it. Without Japan, there would have been no revolution of 1905, without World War I, would have been no 1917. And that's just one

one feature. There were many other variables that they had to use. You know, I always wondered what Russia would look like, had this stuff never happened. And it's very depressing to think about.

It would have been one of the world, would have been the world's dominant, dominant country. Maybe China too. So Russia was in such good shape. And yet if you read your typical textbook, I mean, I remember I was,

been lecturing on this for years and students say, you know, the book says that they were in terrible shape. This is the mythology that has to be created. Otherwise, the revolution doesn't make any sense. And if the revolution doesn't make any sense, someone has to explain that. And no one really wants to explain that. However, in Russia, Barangio Ginsburg continued to intervene in favor of equal rights for the Jews. To this end, in 1903, he visited Vitt at the head of the Jewish delegation. The latter, who had already dealt with the Jewish question when he was Secretary General of the government, replied to them then that the Jews should be granted equal rights only gradually, but in order for the question to be raised, Jews must adopt a completely different behavior. That is to say, to refrain from interfering in the political life of the country. It is not your business. Leave it to those who are Russian by blood and civil status. It is not for you to give us lessons. You should rather take care of yourself. which someone with power would stand up and say that today. Ginsburg, Sliusberg, and Kulashir agreed with this opinion.

Other participants did not, particularly Winnever, who objected, The time has come to grant equal rights to all the subjects. The Jews must support with all their strength those are the Russians who fight for it, and thus against the power in place. But remember, equal rights is kind of misleading. There are restrictions on many groups of the population, depending on what their function was. We all know we've been through the restrictions on the Jews, which were not enforced and why they weren't enforced, especially the percentages and universities and things like that.

But even with that, they still became a very powerful financial aspect of the empire. Now, when you just read that line, it reminded me of Rabbi Weiss from Natura Carter. who's been a friend of mine for, I haven't spoken to him in a long time. You've gone to demonstrations against Israel together. And he always started off by saying Jews should be politically neutral in different countries,

be the best neighbors they possibly can, and not interfere, worry about themselves and not interfere with what goes on outside. That was always their position. So when I read this, it reminded me of that. There's very few. I'm sure there's other groups like that that accept that point of view.

Rabbi Weiss, one of his big arguments over the years, the JDO burnt down his synagogue, is that one of the reasons that Zionism is evil is that it requires Jews to take over the foreign policy establishment of at least some of the great powers. otherwise it can't work. But beyond that, remember, political interference, well, that's terrorism. A lot of these guys are going to die because a Jewish organization is going to murder them. Again, they're creating a revolution out of nothing. And when you have terrorism, I mean, I don't know what the subconscious would be. There must be something wrong.

There must be something I'm not seeing. A lot of that uncertainty, you know, terrorism has a, It really is a psychological form of warfare more than anything else. But as I said before, you had murder after murder after murder of bureaucrats, sometimes innocent people by the leftist groups as well as bank robberies, which was Stalin's big thing, roughly around this time. A lot of people were getting shot. There were always attempts on the emperor.

And Jews were at the core of the war. Jews were at the core of all of that. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person, so together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community.

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Have your say, online or in person. So together, we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community. Find out more at airgrid.com. I.E. 4. Northwest. From the Japanese War, from the beginning of 1904, the Russian government sought financial support from the West, and in order to obtain it, was willing to promise an extension of the rights of the Jews. At Plev's request, high personalities came into contact with Baron Ginsburg on this subject, and Sliusberg was sent abroad to survey the opinion of the greatest Jewish financiers.

As a matter of principle, shift declined. all bargaining over the number and nature of the rights granted to the Jews. He could enter into financial relations only with a government that recognizes to all its citizens the equality of civic and political rights. One can only maintain financial relations with civilized countries. In Paris, Baron de Rothschild also refused. I am not prepared to mount any financial operation whatsoever, even if the Russian government brings improvements to the fate of the Jews.

Vitt succeeded in obtaining a large loan without the help of Jewish financial circles. Meanwhile, in 2003 to 1904, the Russian government had undertaken to lift certain provisions limiting the rights of the Jews. We have already mentioned them in part. The first step in this direction, and the most important, had been during Plev's lifetime,

and by way of derogation of the 1882 regulations, the lifting of the prohibition on Jews settling in 101 densely populated localities, which were not considered cities despite significant industrial and commercial activity, particularly in the grain trade. Secondly, the decisions are promote a group of Jews to the rank of avowed attorneys, which had not been done since 1889. After the assassination of Plev and the era of confidence inaugurated by the short-lived minister of the interior,

Svita Poulos, Polk Mierski, the process continued. Thus, for Jews with higher education, the lifting of restrictive measures taken in 1882 took place, including the right to settle in areas previously prohibited to them, such as those of the army of Don, of Kuban, of Terek. The ban on residence in the borderstrip of 50 versts was also lifted. They reestablished the right, abolished under Alexander II, after 1874 to reside throughout the whole territory of the empire for the brass of the army of Jewish origin would exemplary service records. On the occasion of the birth of the heir to the throne in 1904, amnesty was decreed on the fines, which would be fallen to Jews who had evaded their

military obligations. Well, it hasn't come up in a while with all our shows, but the Jews functioned in Russia largely as a organized crime, a mafia organization. They evaded taxes. They had all these methods of getting around it. They refused to respond to the census. They were big into smuggling. So many of the laws or restrictions were completely ignored, and the state wasn't capable of doing much about it. It's one of the reasons that there was such popular anger against the Jews.

Because, well, if the state can't do it, then it's up to us to do it. every one of these restrictions came after a policy trying to subsidize them and assist them went nowhere and instead they thanked the country with violence and exploitation so there's a reason that they were they were prohibited to live in in certain places you know they took over the alcohol trade they were revolutionaries. They brought in prostitution. It's always the same list of crimes. They were completely maccuvian in their competition,

something that again, even now Russians weren't used to, and it wasn't part of the Russian mentality. And with amnesty, this is something that a monarchy can do, that, of course, in a republic they could never do, because the republic is essentially an oligarchy. And to think, that that fines and debt can be just wiped out because the state says so is almost inconceivable to us. But this is what happens when the state is more powerful or the crown is more powerful and more popular

than the most powerful financial circles put together. And, you know, the first sentence here, you know, they didn't need Jewish financial circles. But the very fact that Russia would even attempt it in this, you know, again, very short, short-term loans, they were a creditor nation, shows you that there was no war permitted without Jewish assistance. Because obviously someone like, like Zor Nicholas would rather not, and his financial ministry, rather not go to Jewish banks. But the financial war, they didn't have any choice. No, off the top of my head, they went to, they went to Gentile sources. and frankly the

economy was in such good shape they probably simply could have gone into debt and had that paid off in a very short time whether they really needed external loans but warfare had become so complex and so expensive at this point especially because this war was so far away

you know what is like eight time zones away from Moscow whatever it was that going to the Jews, at least at first was seen as a necessity. No war was possible at the time without Jewish finance. And there were very few alternatives to that. And an autarkic nation, something that Russia was building at the time. You saw it, you know, to some extent, in the third right, too. Although Germany could never be an autarkic nation.

they need too much from the outside. You know, we're in an era where foreign trade doesn't mean that much as far as the Russian economy is concerned. So, but this was the least they can do, the least negative thing. They were at war with Russia. They said they were at war with Russia. And as far as they were concerned, the revolutionary movement, the Japanese Navy, it's all the same thing. And it's all based on these lies and these myths that the press was promoting. and to this day continues to promote about the, about Russia, about the Tsar, but about Russia in general.

But all these concessions came too late. In the note of the Japanese war that surrounded Russia, they were henceforth not accepted, as we have seen, neither by Western Jewish financiers nor by the majority of Jewish politicians in Russia, nor with strong reason by Jewish youth. And in response to statements made by Sviotipolk Mirsky, when he took off, promising relief in both the palest settlement and the choice of an activity, a declaration of more than 6,000 people the signatures had been collected by the Jewish Democratic group.

We consider all efforts to satisfy and appease the Jewish population by partial improvements in their condition as futile. We consider as null-in-void any policy of gradually lifting the prohibitions weighing on us. We are waiting for equal rights. We make of it a matter of honor and union. injustice. It had become easier to weigh on a government entangled in war. It goes without saying that in a context in which cultivated Russian society had only contempt for power, it was difficult to expect Jewish youth to manifest massively its patriotic enthusiasm. According to the data provided by General

Khrupkin, the Minister of War, then Commander-in-Chief of the Eastern Front, in 1904, the number of insubordinates among the Jewish conscripts doubled compared with the year 1903. More than 20,000 of them have evaded their military obligations without good cause. Out of 1,000 conscripts, more than 300 were missing. While among the Russian conscripts, this number fell to only two per 1,000. As for the Jewish reservists, they deserted en masse on the way to the area of military operations. I don't even know why the Defense Department even bothered. Who would be surprised by this?

Why even, why even bring it up? I mean, they could have even used it as a bargaining chip. You know, it was almost dangerous to draft Jews. This problem wasn't the case with Muslims or Catholics in the empire. Not the case at all. You have most of the Muslim groups were pretty loyal. You know, Crimeans being chief among them, but, you know, Islamic groups. But why even bother?

This is dangerous when an entire unit, you know, desserts, you know, they're going to support somebody else. You're talking about huge numbers during this war. A lot of people don't know much about it. I have a paper on it. I've mentioned. You know, at this stage, the Zionists were absolutely right. Russia should have made it, and it's easy to say this all these years later,

but in all the Russo-Turkic wars, Russia really defeated them badly. You know, there should have been some kind of population transfer, some kind of Havara agreement, you know, for lack of a better phrase, because they were nothing but a problem in Russian society and clearly the Russian military. Why they bothered drafting Jews is a mystery. Employers, did you know you can now reward you and your staff

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Spend Anywhere card when with Options Card, you can have both. With Options Card, your team gets the best of both worlds. They can spend with Ireland's favorite retailers or choose a spend anywhere card. It's simple to buy and easy to manage. There are no hidden fees, it's easy to use and totally flexible. They can even re-gift or donate to a good cause. Make your awards more rewarding. Visit OptionsCard.i.e. Today. An American statistics suggests indirectly that from the beginning of the Japanese war, there was a wave of mass emigration of Jews and military service age. During the two years of war, the figures for Jewish immigration of the United States increased very sharply for people of working age, 14 to 44 years, and men. The former were 29,000 more than what they were expected compared to other immigrant categories. the second 28,000 more compared to women.

After the war, the usual proportions were found. The Kievan newspaper reported at the time that from 20,000 to 30,000 Jewish soldiers and reservists had gone into hiding or fled abroad. In the article, Military Service and Russia of the Jewish Encyclopedia, we could see a comparative picture of insubordination among Jews and Christians, according to official figures, the proportion of the former compared with the latter is 30 to 1 in 1902 and 34 to 1 in 1903. The Jewish Encyclopedia indicates that these figures can also be explained by emigration, deaths not taken into account or miscalculations.

But the inexplicable absence in this table of statistical data for 1904 to 1905 leaves no possibility of obtaining a precise idea of the extent of the insubordination during the war. As for the Jewish fighters, the Jewish insubordination. Cyclopedia says that there were between 20 and 30,000 during the war, not to mention the 3,000 Jews serving as doctors. And it points out that even the newspaper, Nueve Vremia, although hostile to the Jews, recognized their courageous behavior in combat. These statements are corroborated by the testimony of General Denneken. In the Russian army, the Jewish soldiers, resourceful and conscientious, adapted well, even in times

of peace. But in times of war, all differences were self-effacing. individual courage and intelligence were also recognized. A historical fact, the heroism of Yosoph Trumpledor, who, having lost a hand, asked to remain in the ranks. In fact, he was not the only one to distinguish himself. You figure that group of Jews, which I think is probably a minority in this case, who didn't desert, were very different in terms of their mentality and how they view themselves as compared to the Jews who did desert. Clearly, if you're willing to fight for Russia at this level of bravery, and of course,

that bravery was found all over the place, he said the same thing about the Muslims, but, you know, these people may not have been self-conscious Jews. They may have been more Russian in their mentality. There's always a minority. Yeah, clearly they had to speak the language, you know, if they're going to be in the norm. It was like they were, separate units. But I think these were fairly small in number, but the Jews that were willing to fight were not exactly the Jews that were throwing bombs at the emperor. Even though they were a minority, you still had some of them.

And Daniken, of course, who was one of the chiefs of the white army, you know, mentioned this more than once. He said the same thing about Islam. You know, so, but that's that, you know, the big issue. is that minority of Jews clearly, you know, must skip school during the Talmud lessons. At the end of this war lost by Russia, President Theodore Roosevelt agreed to mediate talks with Japan. Vita, who led the Russian delegation, evokes this delegation of Jewish big shots who came to see me twice in America to talk to me about the Jewish question. These were Jacob Schiff, the eminent lawyer, Lewis Marshall,

and Oscar Strauss, among others. The position of Russia had become rather uncomfortable, which imposed a more conciliatory tone on the Russian minister than in 1903. Vita's arguments raised violent objections on the part of Schiff. 15 years later, Krauss, one of the members of this delegation,

who in 1920 became president of the Benet Brith Lodge, said, if the Tsar does not give his people the freedoms to which it is entitled, the revolution will be able to establish a republic that will allow access to these freedoms. I know I've said this before, but it was not an unequivocal defeat for the Russian Empire. I say this for a bunch of reasons. The main reason that Russia had to pull out largely was the revolution itself.

The revolution was fed by mythical stories about Russian humiliation. At this point, and I don't know how Theodore Roosevelt could have ever been a mediator. he was so anti-Russia to begin with at the Portsmouth talks, but Japan was on its last legs. They were the same very much in terms of losses, casualties in general, but Russia was not exhausted. Japan was absolutely exhausted. I said last time that one of the commanders committed Hadekeedi because he lost the war. It was not seen, and there was some civil unrest in Japan because it was. not seen as a victory in Japan.

But unfortunately, the revolution is what forced the emperor to pull men back. And then, you know, the Americans came in and they, and even, even the treaty itself was not at all humiliating for Russia. They both got concessions, things that they wanted. The goals of the war, as far as the Japanese, were concerned, were not met. And most people would face a total defeat for Russia. The same thing for Crimea. In neither case is that true. During the same weeks, a new danger began to undermine Russian-American relations.

On his way back to Vita, T. Roosevelt asked him to inform the emperor that the trade agreement, which had long-bound 1832, his country to Russia, would suffer if it applied confessional restrictions to American businessmen going to its territory. This protest, which, of course, was a matter of principle concerned in practice a significant number of Russian Jews who had emigrated to the United States and had become American citizens. They returned to Russia, often to engage in revolutionary activities, henceforth as merchants who were not subject to any professional or geographical limitation. This landmine could only explode a few years later. For several years, Stuttgart had published Oswebos-Den-E

magazine and the great mass of cultivated Russians scarcely concealed its sympathies for the illegal organization, Union for Liberation. In the autumn of 1904, a banqueting campaign was held in all the major cities of Russia, where impassioned and premonitory toast were called for the overthrow of the regime. Participants from abroad also spoke in public, such as Tan Bogoros. The Japanese war was really a gift as far as the revolutionaries were concerned. you know the media who wasn't even there most of the time was very difficult to get out there was just writing whatever you know they were writing articles before a battle would uh would occur um and as i've said before the there's nothing that hurts a government like a lost war um it it delegitimizes almost everything

that they do but here we have a situation with tough guy theodore Roosevelt demands that Russia permit these emigrays to go back to Russia. They weren't businessmen. I don't know how to the extent he was aware of that, he probably was to go in and continue to form their, their revolutionary circles or they're going to be trade restrictions. That's a, that, you know, this absurdity that, you know, so much of, of Jewish power came from outside, both Britain and, and the U.S. Now, Russia really didn't need a lot of this trade, especially in the grain trade, because they were the U.S. and Russia fed the world at the time, depending on harvest and everything.

But, you know, these, they emigrated for a reason. And they were forced, you know, to go back. They were left this. They caused nothing but trouble. And, you know, can you imagine having an enemy, you know, you're forced to live. with an enemy because someone says you're going to lose your job if you don't. And this is the absurdity of the takeover, the Jewish power in both London, Washington. Political unrest had penetrated all layers of the Jewish community.

The latter was engulfed in this bubbling without distinction of classes or parties. Thus, many Jewish public men, even of patriotic sensibility, were part of the Union for Liberation. Like all Russian liberals, they proved to be defeatist during the Japanese. war. Like them, they applauded the executions of the ministers Bogolopov, Scipiagin, and Plev. And this entire progressive Russia pushed even the Jews in this direction, unable to admit that a Jew could be more on the right than a left-wing Democrat, but feeling that he should, more naturally yet, be a socialist. A conservative Jew? Ugh. Even in an academic institution such as a Jewish historical ethnographic commission, in these tumultuous years, there was no time to

serenely engage in scientific research. It was necessary to make history. The radical and revolutionary movements within the Russian Jewish community have always been based on the idea that the problem of equal rights. The fundamental historical question of the Jews of Russia would be solved only when one could cut once for all, the head of the the Medusa and all the serpents that spring from it. During these years in St. Petersburg, the Jewish Defense Office developed its activities with the aim of fighting anti-Semitic literature and disseminating appropriate information on the legal situation of Jews in order to influence mainly the opinion of liberal Russian circles.

Slausberg points out that these activities were largely subsidized by the international EK0. But it was not so much Russian society that it was a close. question of influencing. The Bureau did not open branches in Russia, not even in Moscow, Kiev, or Odessa. On the one hand, Zionist propaganda absorbed all the energy of the most cultivated youth. On the other, Bund propaganda mobilized a greater part of the educated youth. Zliusberg insisting that the Bund be condemned, whenever objected that he should not quarrel with the Bund, it disposes of energy and propaganda power. However, the Bureau soon maintained a strong relationship built on reciprocal information and mutual aid with the American Jewish Committee,

chaired by Jacob Schiff, then Louis Marshall, the English Jewish Committee, Claude Montefior, Lucene Wolfe, the Alliance in Paris and the Support Committee of the German Jews, James Simon, and Paul Nathan. This is very, it's extremely depressing. Can you imagine today, in today's Tel Aviv that wealthy Orthodox people open up a Christian defense office that regularly attacks the government and takes the government to court for various anti-Christian measures, you know, Christian Palestinians or whatever. Can you imagine that actually existing and functioning? It's almost inconceivable.

It's strange that Zionists, you know, you figure that the ultimate goal of Zionists is to leave the country. And yet they still wanted to leave behind. a revolutionary government in Russia, the destruction of the monarchy. So now you had Zionists and socialist

essentially being one and the same. And I guess that means that once they go to Palestine, they're going to have a very sympathetic government to finance them, which is exactly what happened because, you know, it was the Stalin government is what first recognized and financed

Israel in 1948. It's where their weapons came from, to where most of their people came from. But this, when I talk about the network, the web of Jewish power, this is exactly what I'm talking about. These guys were forcing a revolution. We all know what equal rights really meant in practice. It meant utter Jewish domination. These Jewish organizations were killing minister after minister after minister. Bombs were going off all over the place. the press was completely controlled, except by a couple,

there were some right-wing publications. Your average Russian was at least very confused about what was going on. This is why the great saints like John of Kronstadt, roughly around this time, you know, went to nationalism, went to the black hundreds and said this is, you know, you have to fight for Russia. No one else is doing it. The monarchy never grasped,

the concept of propaganda. That was a Jewish thing, it was a Bolivic thing, and they were absolutely diabolically genius when it came to propaganda. Here is the testimony of M. Kroll. The heart of our group was the press office, whose mission was to disseminate through the Russian and foreign press serious information about the situation of the Jews in Russia.

It was AI Brodo who undertook this task. He accomplished it perfectly, under the conditions of the Russia at that time, this kind of work required a great deal of prudence was to be carried out in the greatest secrecy. Even the members of the defense office did not know by what means or by what channels he had succeeded in organizing such and such a press campaign. A large number of articles published in the Russian or foreign press at the time, often with great repercussions, have been communicated to the newspapers or magazines, either personally by Brotto or through his intermediary.

Providing serious information to launch this or that press campaign, it is a bit chilling, especially in light of what happened in the 20th century. In today's language, it is called skillful manipulation of the media. In March 1905, the Defense Bureau convened in Vilnius the Constituent Congress of the Union for the Equal Rights for the Jewish People in Russia, but it quickly proceeded to its self-dissolution and joined the direction of the Union for the, integrity of rights, the expression, integrality because it was stronger than that of equal rights, had been proposed by Winiver.

Today, we evoke it under a hybrid form, such as the Union for achieving integral equality of rights. The upshot so far in Sultan Eaton's mind is that it was Judaism as a whole, not a faction, not a group, not a fringe element. but Judaism as a whole in Russia was the revolutionary movement. We talked about where the Western press is getting the nonsense from, well, here's the answer. Again, can you imagine in Tel Aviv having an orthodox thing of sending, you know, crazy articles to different countries around the world, to the Syrians, say, or the Iranians. And yet, that was tolerated here for the most part.

to say that Russia at the time was some sort of a tyranny, is absurd, absolutely absurd. They were still punishing people by sending them into exile rather than any kind of prison. And the reason why equal rights simply meant that the Jewish bankers can absolutely dominate the currency and undersell everybody in Russia because they had this network of power. They always had access to liquidity. They could always undersell, whether it be money or anything else that they're selling, the Gentiles. This was the problem. But beyond all that, because Judaism as a whole now hated Russia, what would a Russian government do?

Especially after everything that we've talked about, since we started here, the Russian government was well aware of what the Jews were. And yet, you know, trying to settle them on the land, all the stuff we talked about, all these subsidies, and they didn't work. they hate the Gentiles so much. You know, it's putting the state in an awful position. The state couldn't take action against the revolutionary movement because it was being pushed by the capitalist. That's why one of the reasons Marxism is so absurd because it was a capitalist who created all this.

Capitalists built the Soviet Union. It wasn't a threat to them. The same people who, you know, same Jews especially, who dominated the minds, dominated the minds after Lenin took over. over and they were considered proletarians could you believe that these words didn't mean anything capitalist powers forced this on russia and again it's easy to you know talk a hundred years ago you know like we could have known that at the time but altarchy being completely self-sufficing this should have been the policy jews should have been resettled in uh in uh in uh we

within the Turkish Empire under, and I'm sure some deal could have been worked out. The black hundreds had that as their position. A lot of anti-Jewish groups in Europe had that as their position, like the Havara Agreement, you know, just one out of many. So, you know, this was forced on Russia by the capitalist powers. It was wanted that this new union brings together all Jewish parties and groups, but the Bund denounced this Congress as a bourgeois. However, many Zionists could not remain in their splendid.

isolation. The pro-dromes of the Russian Revolution led to a split in their ranks. And some of these factions did not resist the temptation or participate in the great things that unfolded before their eyes. But in so doing, they exerted an influence on the strictly civic orientation of the Congress agenda. The idea was making its way not only to fight for civic rights, but also with the same energy for national rights. Sleusberg fought against the influence of the Zionists who wanted to withdraw the Jews from the number of citizens of Russia and whose demands were often formulated only for demagogic reasons. For the Jewish community in Russia has in no way been limited in the expression of its national life.

Was it appropriate to raise the question of national autonomy of the Jews when none of the nationalities living in Russia possessed it, whereas the Russian people themselves, in their Orthodox part, were far from being in the expression of their religious and national life? but at that time, Demagogy assumed a very special significance in the Jewish backstreet. I don't know what Jewish backstreet means. I guess it means the broader population.

But I'm willing to say at this point that the biggest problem of the elite Jewish financiers, Rothschild shift, and 10 million others, is that Russia was the only major empire that had a fully state run, well, they really didn't have a central bank. They had finance ministers, and it was fully state run.

They weren't, Jews weren't permitted to control the currency at any level whatsoever. We know what was going on. I'm not sure. Germany, after you, that may be an exception off the top of my head.

I don't know. Although Jews were extremely financially powerful there. Russia, was at least one of the few remaining powers that refused to let the banks take over their currency, and hence their economic and fiscal life. And I think maybe that's really what's behind this equal rights nonsense. Thus, in place of the notion, clear in the eyes of everyone, of equality of rights, which certainly had not yet happened, but seemed no longer to lag behind political developments, The slogan was issued for the integrality of rights of the Jews.

What was meant by this was that, in addition to equal rights, national autonomy was also recognized. It must be said that those who formulated these requirements did not have a very clear idea of their content. The creation of Jewish schools was not limited by any law. The study of the Russian language was required, insofar as it was not a question of haters. But other more civilized countries also,

impose the use of state language and relations with the administration as well as in schools. Thus, there was no national autonomy for Jews in the United States, but the obtentionists' union for the obtention demanded national and cultural self-determination on the territory of Russia, as well as a substantial autonomy for the Jewish communities, and in the same breadth, the secularization of these to tear them away from the religious influence of Judaism, which suited both the Zionists and socialists. Later, this was called national personal autonomy, accompanied by the requirement that the Jewish cultural and social institutions be financed

by the state but without it interfering in their functioning. And how can we imagine the self-management of a nation scattered territorially? The Second Congress of the Union in November 1905 took the decision to convene a Jewish National Assembly of Russia. What number is that 15, is that 15, the 15th Assembly about this? Oh, oh, at least, at least. And that's just at the national level. Yet again, you know, and of course, and each time, the, there are more and more Jews and phylo-Semites on it. So they get less and less useful.

Therezavin was right then and he was right in 1905 and he's right today. But when I first, I read this in the original, I think, a long time ago, and I had to read this paragraph like three times. There was so much here. The arrogance, they wanted a state subsidized, autonomous state within Russia. And sometimes, I think my thought at the time was, is this what the Zionists were talking about? maybe the concept of going to Palestine maybe in the future. But could you be a Zionist but just saying that, you know, it wouldn't be on the old territory,

what they claim is the old territory of the least, but building their own Zion in Russia. Because that was, you know, the new Khazadia idea, had, you know, was centered on that. That's what Zionism should be. The Khazar Empire, the, based on the resurrection of Rabbi Schneierson, and all this nonsense that they promoted,

that the Ukrainian Jews promoted, the oligr. To some extent, I'm wondering, is this what they were talking about? And when you have a state, an autonomous state, you had military, you had your own banks, not speaking Russian, of course. They wanted an enemy camp financed by Petersburg within Russia, near where the old pale of settlement was, which is a little bizarre,

on the Black Sea, where Khazaria used to be. Of course, no other group was asking for this. No other group had this. And it's just, this is what they meant by equal rights. This is precisely what they meant. And I'm sympathetic to some extent of the non-territorial,

especially in a country like the U.S., where you have ethnic group spread everywhere. It might be a problem in practice, but in theory, I don't mind it. But this was a, you know, the fact that they demanded subsidies for it, while also demanding that the Russian government have no say in how it's run, given everything that's happened, this would have been a violent, well-armed enemy camp with ties to Britain and the U.S., the biggest banks in the world, right in the heart of South Russia. This is what equality of rights meant. All the other stuff is just rhetoric. And I'm pretty sure you're not going to find this in your typical survey history of Russia in

this era. This is what equal rights meant. And to some extent, this is what Zionism meant. All these ideas, including the national personal autonomy of the Jews of Russia, were expressed and continued in various forms until 1917. However, the Union for the Integrality of Rights proved ephemeral. At the end of 1906, the Jewish people's anti-Zionist group succeeded. Winnevar Sliusburg-Kulisher Sternberg on the grounds that it refused the idea of a Jewish National Assembly. Shortly afterwards, it was a turn of the Jewish People's Party, S. Dubnov, religious and cultural nationalism, notably the right to use a Jewish language

in public life throughout the country, but with what. what means how. Then the Jewish Democratic group, Bramson Landau, close to the labor, close to the Labor Party. The Union for the Integrality of Rights was also accused of having rallied to the KD, and consequently was no longer being able to represent the Jewish population of Russia. The Zionists regarded the secularists as partisans of assimilation, and the socialists as bourgeois. In short, at the beginning of 1907, the Union ceased to exist. union may have gone out of existence, but the idea absolutely remained. These divisions were not fundamental ones.

They were a matter of, you know, various details of policy, maybe personality. But this was the mentality of Jews at the time. Okay, if we can't take over the government, we're just going to create our own. I still can't, I still can't get over. The pomposity, the arrogance. They loathe Gentiles to such an extreme degree. That KD, of course, is a liberal so-called cadet party. When the Duma was established, they got a lot of seats there that you can't even connect with them because they're unclean.

Again, I have no idea what they mean by assimilation or secularists or anything else, but these were not fundamental divisions. I think we should end here only because there's something very new in the next paragraph but my you know every time I read this my head is just I'm just reeling and no one knows this no one knows these demands

everyone says you talk about in a university classroom I've heard it myself equal rights for Jews oh my God they didn't have equal rights with everybody oh they had Jim Crow laws or something. You know, these poor people. I watch Seinfeld. They're the funniest people.

You know, but of course, that has no bearing on anything. The definition, how people use words, the definitions of these, especially for a very deceitful mafia-style group like the Jews in Russia at the time, there's always double meanings and triple meanings. Just like, no different than any Gnostic sect, Freemasonry or anything else And Freemasonry being Essentially Judaism for non-Jews

Was doing its work Within certain levels of the Russian wealthy Not all of them, but some of them especially in St. Petersburg The city itself was a Gnostic experiment And You know, this is just the whole thing is so extraordinary By Jewish language, I'm pretty sure they mean Yiddish. I don't think anyone spoke.

Hebrew at the time, maybe there were some in Jerusalem who did. Not 100% sure. But you've had, since the mythology about the Kishina of program, you have a massive shift in the Jewish mentality. They're able to say in public what they've always said in private. Yeah, the

Kahala's gone, but these type of organizations have replaced it. and it's it's uh it's something i don't think that normie hearing this for the first time could absorb it i might as will be speaking bulgarian to them uh we try to explain this as somebody uh professor of history will not comprehend it wouldn't penetrate uh but but that that's that's what they meant by equal rights if you go back to page 211 the first uh par the first sentence that during these years in St. Petersburg, the Jewish Defense Office, developed its activities with the aim of fighting anti-Semitic literature and disseminating appropriate information on the legal

situation in Jews in order to influence mainly the opinion of liberal Russian circles. This is basically the same thing we have today, except it's what they're trying to, their influence is in, quote, unquote, conservative American circles. They're doing the same thing over and over again. this always happens and well unfortunately this time they were able to take over the country and punish everybody who you know they thought did them wrong and you just have to wonder you know if they get their way now what happens i mean they have they have nukes and they're willing to incinerate babies sure absolutely they are yeah we're you know we're you know

what are we up against now? You know, and these are just questions because you look at history and it's like, okay, they did this and this is what happened, you know, you know, tens of millions dead, which seems to be some kind of, you know, there was an ethnic animosity component to it. Well, what's happening now when they have much more political power and wealth? Well, what do we do? When it comes to Western journalists,

academics, the one thing that they can't do, the one quality that they can't have is the ability to recognize patterns. You know, color revolutions say it's the same thing over and over and over and over again. And they're not, you know, they can't see patterns. They live in a world of cognitive dissonance. Nothing makes someone sounds, an intelligent person sounds stupid than special pleading, trying to make exceptions. Well, you know, trying to explain all this away. Usually it's just name-calling and censorship. But this is at the heart of the Russian Empire, the Orthodox Russian Empire in 1905. They're doing it. You know, there's a reason that they were, you know, considered Antichrist, the forebears of Antichrist.

These were violent, whether it be Zionists or other ones. these were violent cults and yes you're right I want to say it again Zionists in Israel incinerate babies when they deliberately attacked all the hospitals

in the south of Beirut last year in their invasion of Lebanon when they attacked all the medical tents of the United Nations UNI FIL interim in Lebanon I forget what it stands for

but deliberately killing UN people, deliberately going after their... Yeah, this is what they're capable of. And this is what normal people couldn't do that. But when you were raised with the Talmudic mentality, that now, apparently, they could say openly, but I'm thinking, I can't believe back then they were, and they weren't going to come out and say, we're going to incinerate babies, but they did.

And then they projected that onto the Germans. They projected that onto South Africans. They projected that onto whoever they hated at the moment. So there's always a psychological component to this. But yes, it is terrifying. And the power, the technology, the weaponry is different, but the arrogance is identical. Yeah, there's a Senator Randy Fine. I believe his name is Randy Fine from Florida, who Trump appointed to

fill one of the vacant seats there. I think Marco Rubio's seat maybe. I don't know. I can't remember. This guy has actually been on tape before on video saying, we Jews have been kicked out of every country we've ever been in. Somebody on Twitter showed him a, you know, posted a picture of a, you know, a torn apart baby and, you know, said, how does this make you feel? And he says, well, we need more of those. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's all I need to. to hear. Was that a project veritas thing? Because Project Veritas thing? Because Project Verit? No, no. No, this was just wide open. This is just wide open. I mean, they'll, I got Senator Don Bacon from Nebraska, some guy who, um, has taken over a million dollars from A-PAC. I mean, a senator, not a senator,

a congressman from Nebraska that no one's ever heard of, Don Bacon from Nebraska. I got him to, I asked him the question. I said, here's a hypothetical, Congressman. One of these two countries doesn't exist anymore. Israel or the United States, choose. And he said, read the book of revelation and get back to me. Yeah, that says a lot more. If you would have just said Israel, it would have been less impactful than that. And of course, Protestant evangelicals, the core of Israeli power, at least in the U.S., much couldn't happen. And unfortunately, Trump has fallen under their spell.

He's kind of backed off Iran a little bit. But, you know, what they did to the average, you know, when the Mossad, the CIA overthrows these governments, say in Libya or Syria, they're well aware what's going to happen. They're well aware that their militias are going to take over and annihilate whole areas. That's the, you know, that's, that was the point to render these. countries impoverished and uncertain because prior to that they were doing very well Syria Libya on the on the verge of becoming first world countries at the time the wars broke out Iran has been a first world country for a long time course has never been colonized and that's the threat not military power because they're connected but they need the

world impoverished and they like you know Spartans on the on the city on the hill looking down on everybody the biggest disappointment in the Trump phenomenon has been the obsession with Israel what he said about Gaza I know with early this year about you know wiping them out and then and then selling condos there very flippantly offhandedly it you know and and you know I always thought that Trump that Donald Trump knew the Jews from the inside very well because he came of aid. I mean, he made his money in New York City real estate. The only Gentile to really do that very well in recent years.

He has to know the Jews. They were their competition. And yet, I don't know if he thinks that they're going to like him and the media is going to back off. Clearly, that hasn't been the case. It's grotesque. But that one line you said, they're willing to incinerate babies. is the core of all of this then and now. Very, very different group of people than anyone else.

Yeah, you know, if you read Ariel Toff's book, I'm sure you know the one I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, I did a show on it. Yeah, they will scream that that is fiction, that none of this ever happened and everything. And I just look at the way they treat babies now, And I'm like the way they treat children now. And I'm like, oh, really?

Huh. So just because now you can do it at a distance or from 10,000 feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm shocked that Toaf's book was able to even get published. So it blew my mind.

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