The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 42

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

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And I could complain for an hour that I have to go an extra mile farther to go to the CVS because the right age shutdown. The tiniest little things. It's like, it's like I can't equate the fact that, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, in a very good position compared to your typical Arab on the Gaza Strip, maybe I shouldn't complain so much, but I'd do it anyway. How you doing? Yeah, I'm doing good.

The Mises Institute had a revisionist history conference a couple weekends ago. It was actually the weekend that my organization was having our event. And two speakers, they still haven't uploaded the video from. One is Ron Unz. Because apparently somebody asked Ron Unz about that happening in this thing that happened in the 1940s during the war that we're supposed to, now we're supposed to bend the knee forever over. Yes, that thing, that event.

Yeah. And Alana Mercer, who, are you? Are you familiar with Alana Mercer? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, for some reason, I have a copy of her video. For some reason, they didn't upload hers. And she talked about the fact that basically there's parts of Gaza that are going to be uninhabitable

when you take into consideration the soil and the ground has been so contaminated with not only debris from the shells and debris from the, from the, from the, the buildings, but debris from human, from, you know, 10,000 human bodies that will never end, animals that will never be recovered that are like permanently a part of that, you know, the soil and the ground now. Yeah, but that that won't stop me from complaining about the fact that I have to drive an extra mile, you know, grumbling all the way to the car. Like it's such an appra, you know, that that won't stop me. A very, very odd conception of proportion I have. Yeah. Leftists about 10 years ago, it was very popular whenever you complained about something. Leftists would say, oh, it sounds like first world problems.

Yeah, well, I only know that from the Weirdo Yankevick song. Very good song, by the way. Big Weird Al fan. And he did have had a first world problems. On the very last album he ever put out, I think, I have the feeling he refuses to put out any more albums and he was always

G-rated I have the feeling that someone in the record industry wanted him to do something and he said no and he still tours but there's got to be a reason he's refusing to put on any any albums people are dying for it and I think

I'm just there's something about this his reasoning doesn't make sense they want him to do something or say something or to talk about something or sing about something. And he's refusing, and that's why, you know, he's just, he just goes by his reputation now. Yeah. And I know a lot of people would think that Weird Al Yankovic is part of a tribe, but no, he's a Pollock.

Oh, he is. Yeah. All right. Picking up where we left off last time. On the 20th and 21st of October, far from Sub-Sidavis, far from Sub-Sidav. subsiding, the pogrom gained frightening momentum. The plunder and destruction of Jewish property, the acts of violence and the killings were openly perpetrated, and with complete impunity, day and night. Point of view of the Polai Zion on the evening of the 20th, quoting,

the university was closed by the army, while inside it we had barricaded ourselves in the event of an assault by the troops. Detachments of self-defense no longer went into town. In the latter, on the other hand, self-defense had organized itself spontaneously, powerful detachments of townspeople, equipped with weapons of opportunity, hatchets, cutlasses, limes, defended themselves with determination and anger equal to those they were victim of and succeeded in protecting their perimeter almost completely. Like I said last time, let's be clear. Calling this a pogrom, giving the impression that these are defenseless Jews is just beyond

outrageous. Jews were better armed than anybody else. They had their militias. They had their units. Even trained. They had better weapons than anyone else. They started this whole thing. And then I like this, you know, detachments of townspeople.

In other words, people who live there, this sounds a lot like direct democracy to me. that they're telling the Jews we're not going to tolerate this. It doesn't matter how many people you have living here. I don't know how many Jews were brought in from the outside. They were a third of the population roughly. But, you know, and then all of a sudden they're going to pretend that they're terrified. The police and the army were nowhere to be found, at least for a while.

It's the population that had enough. of them. This is not a pogrom in the normal sense you use the term. This was a battle and the Jews ended up losing it because you still had enough healthy people in Ukraine at the time. On the 20th, a group of municipal counselors headed by the new mayor, the former Krasinovsky, who noted his powerlessness in the face of what was happening in the university, where even weapons were being gathered and had reigned on the 18th, went to General Kalboski. urging him to take all power in his hands to the extent that the military command alone is capable of saving the city. The latter explained to them that before the declaration of the state of siege, the military

command had no right to interfere in the decisions of the civil administration and had no other obligation than to assist it when it requested it. Not to mention that the firing of the troops and the bombs thrown at them made it extremely difficult to restore. order. He finally agreed to intervene. On the 21st of October, he gave orders to take the most energetic measures against the buildings from which shots were fired and bombs were thrown. On the 22nd, order to take down on the spot all those guilty of attacks on buildings, businesses, or persons. As early as the 21st, Colm began to return to different parts of the city. From the 22nd, the police insured the surveillance,

of the streets with the reinforcement of the army. The street cars began to circulate again, and in the evening, one could consider that order was restored to the city. The number of victims was difficult to define and varies from one source to another. The Kuzminsky report states that, according to information provided by the police, a number of people killed amounts to more than 500 persons, including more than 400 Jews. As to the number of injuries recorded by the police, it is 289. of which 237 Jews.

According to the data collected from the cemetery guardians, 86 funerals were celebrated in the Christian cemetery, 298 in the Jewish cemetery. In the hospitals, were admitted 608 wounded, including 392 Jews. However, many had to be those who refrained from going to hospitals fearing that they would later be persecuted. The Jewish Encyclopedia reports 400 deaths among the Jews. According to Apollai Zion, based on the list published by the rabbinette of Odessa,

302 Jews were killed, including 55 members of self-defense detachments, as well as 15 Christians who were members of these same detachments. Among the other deaths, 45 could not be identified. 179 men and 23 women were identified. Many deaths among the vandals, no one counted them, nor cared to know their number in any event. it has said that there were not less than 100. And for the Soviet work already quoted,

it did not hesitate to put forward the following figures, more than 500 dead and 900 wounded among the Jews. They just couldn't believe that someone was going to fight back. And the town, townsmen as a whole, didn't really have firearms necessarily. Some of them did. They were using whatever they could. could. We don't know who was a member of the detachment and who wasn't. And these so-called Christians

who were a part of these, I guarantee you were Protestants, because this was a part of Ukraine. You had some Mennonites there. You had some more radical Protestant sects that had been settled there to work the land. Actually, we mentioned that before. Because I guarantee you, no orthodox were a part of this. Their self-defense detachments were, were, even, you know, revolutionary or Zionists for the most part self-defense refers to the Zionist ones but but they they weren't able to handle it was you know wasn't so much you know the police the army they weren't involved nearly as much as a people were and these people knew exactly who was they weren't just grabbing people randomly I don't

think there's any evidence of that they knew they lived there they were doing exactly they were fighting this mini civil war right in their town, which shouldn't surprise anybody. It was a Jewish movement. This leftist revolutionary group and they were allied with the Zionists

at the time. We're communists who wanted to slaughter as many Christians as they could, which of course they eventually did. I don't know what the true number is, but when you have the self-defense detasements who were better armed than anybody and they still took the bulk of

of the casualties. I guess they needed some more training, but what did they expect? What did they expect after? They started this. This was, they were, they've been killing Russians for years. They were heavily armed. They're, this is a revolutionary group.

They're killing people all over the place. They were part of the revolution of 1905. And then the people finally, finally organized to fight back. And this becomes the key of, program. It's just an outrageous thing from these people. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest.

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Our lowest ever price. Availability subject location, new customers only, 12 month minimum term, standard pricing thereafter, Robbins sold separately terms apply for more infoes east guy at a slash beads. One should also mention by way of illustration the hot reactions of the foreign press. In the Berlin or Tagablot, even before the 21st of October, one could read,

thousands and thousands of Jews are massacred in the south of Russia. More than a thousand Jewish girls and children were raped and strangled. On the other hand, it is without exaggeration that Kuzminsky summarizes the events. By its magnitude and its violence, this program surpassed all those who preceded it. He considers that the main person in charge is the governor of the city, Newdhart. The latter made an unworthy concession by yielding to Professor Shipkin's demands by withdrawing the police from the city and handing it over to a student militia that did not yet exist. On the 18th, he did not take any measure to disperse a revolutionary crowd that had gathered in the streets. he tolerated that power would go to the ramifications of Jews and revolutionaries.

Did he not understand the reprisals in the form of a program would follow? His negligence could have been explained if he had handed power over to the army, but that did not happen during the entire period of the troubles. This did not, however, prevent him from broadcasting during the events fairly ambiguous statements and later, during the investigation, to lie to try to justify himself. Having established the evidence, the evidence of criminal acts committed in the exercise of his functions, Senator Kuzminski had Newdhart brought to justice. I think we've covered this, but it seems to be a miscommunication.

You had army units there, and you had the local police. The local police couldn't handle this. They weren't designed to handle this. But who had jurisdiction where? who could make arrests, who can use deadly force, that hadn't been worked out. Because 1905 was the start,

you know, the first real substantial Jewish revolutionary movement that they're killing people, they're armed, and they weren't ready for this at all. And that was really the confusion. The army did get the rack together and fought back.

I don't know what kind of units these were. And, you know, the age, of the boys here, I have no clue. But you don't know what I just refer to as soldiers. They're in the army because there was no other law enforcement. Because the police were just not ready for this. The police, you know, they were not heavily armed at all. And then especially with the universities and the huge Jewish population, they had no chance.

So, and plus the fact that, you know, and plus the fact that, you. you had confusion in the mayor's office, let alone in Petersburg or anywhere else, Kiev or Odessa. And it was the same set of events here. The Kiev program was, you know, it's pretty much the same thing. But this is a heavily Jewish part of the world at the time. I think at this point, something like 70% of the world's Jewish population were living in, you know, what used to be called the Pala settlement, including parts of,

including parts of, um, Belarus. So, you know, they, they started a fight that they weren't willing to finish. Um,

and when they lost, they called it a program. I still, I'm never going to be able to get over the arrogance here. Um, on their part. They started this. They were the ones who started the shooting.

and they knew the police couldn't handle it. Campus security sure is how couldn't handle it. But the biggest issue was communication between the police and the army, who had jurisdiction where and why. Not to mention the loyalties, at least in the Odessa case. In Odessa, it was, you know, you had a leftist mayor. So in Kiev, it was a slightly different story, but people in the city government, their loyalties were questionable.

So there was a lot of confusion at the top. This was something very new, and that's why it occurred the way it did. With respect to the military command, the senator had no power to do so, but he indicates that it was criminal on behalf of Calbars to yield on October 18th to the demands of the municipal Duma and to withdraw the army from the streets of the city. On the 21st, Calbars also uses equivocal arguments. in addressing the police officers gathered at the governor's house. Let us call them by name.

It must be acknowledged that in our heart, we all approve of this program. But in the exercise of our functions, we must not let the persecution we may feel for the Jews transpire. It is our duty to maintain order and to prevent pogroms and murders. That's quoting, unquoting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting that they're saying, okay, We know that they deserve this, that they started this.

But this cost the city of fortune. I forget the exact numbers, like three million rubles. This was a huge chunk of the Russian mercantile economy could be found in these areas. The state did not want these kind of, they didn't want any unrest at all. So they had to rely on the professionalism of law enforcement to take action. and to stop even those who were fighting back to the Jews against the Jews just for the sake of peace. You know, the country couldn't afford it. The senator concluded his report by stating that the troubles and disorders of October were provoked by causes of undeniably revolutionary character

and found their culmination in an anti-Jewish pogrom solely because it was precisely the representatives of that nationality, which had taken a preponderant part in the revolutionary movement. but could we not add that it is also due to the longstanding laxity of the authorities over the excesses of which the revolutionaries were guilty? But as the conviction that the events of October were the sole cause of Newt Hart's actions, his provocations, immediately after the end of the disorder, several commissions were formed in Odessa, including the university, the municipal Duma, and the Council of the Bar Association. They were actively engaged in collective documents proving that the pogrom was the result of a provocation. But after examining the evidence, the senator discovered no evidence, and the investigation did not reveal any facts demonstrating the

participation of a single police officer to the organization of the patriotic manifestation. The Senator's report also highlights other aspects of the year 1905 and the general era. On 21st October, as rumors spread throughout the city that bombs were being made and weapons were were being stored in large quantities within the university compound, the military district commander proposed to have the buildings inspected by a committee composed of officers and professors. The rector told him that such an intrusion would violate the autonomy of the university. Gee, I wonder if you had anything to hide. Since the day it was proclaimed in August, the university was run by a commission composed of

12 professors of extremist orientation. Shepkin, for example, declared at a meeting on October 7th, when the hour strikes and you knock on our door, we will join you on your Potemkin. But this commission itself was made under the control of the student's Soviet coalition who dictated its orders to the rector. After the rejection of Kalbar's request, the inspection was carried out by a commission composed of professors and three-mead-incipal counselors, and of course, nothing so suspicious was discovered. Facts of the same nature were also be observed in the municipal

Duma. There, it was the municipal employees who manifested claims to exercise influence and authority. Their committee presented to the Duma, composed of elected representatives, demands of an essentially political character. On the 17th, the day of the manifesto, they concocted a resolution, quoting, at last, the autocracy has fallen into the precipice as the senator writes. Quoting again, it is not excluded that at the outset of the troubles,

there might have been inclinations to take the whole of power. Well, I think what he means, and the senator is right for the most part. He's clearly, he's writing as a professional. Obviously, they had something to hide. The universities were not places of learning anymore. I know in typical Anglo-American texts,

Jeffrey Hoskins and other writers like that, they act like, you know, shutting the universities down, which just shows you how oppressive it was. But at this point, universities were not, you know, it was ideological. It didn't matter if you were a biologist. It was about ideological manipulation, and that was it. I mean, a lot of them had been left us to begin with. Even some of the seminaries had been in the, you know, and keep in mind that Freemation had penetrated some of the some of the what was left of the Russian nobility and that was well aware

you know people who and Nicholas the second knew this you know Alexander the third could keep control of that faction in his family Nicholas had a much tougher time Nicholas believed in consensus which was increasingly hard to do but but you know what even more mind-boggling is that this revolutionary movement is because in granting The manifesto, and some of it occurred before, but in granting the manifesto, it was a signal for more violence. We talked about this already. The manifesto in granting the Duma and certain rights, at least formalizing certain rights, meant that the Tsar, maybe not had fallen, but had weakened. He was not an absolute ruler anymore.

I don't think he ever was, the Charter of their nobility under Catherine. the second, it probably wasn't absolute any at all, didn't have the power, didn't have the enforcement power to be. Anyway, I think in theory maybe. But this is because the czar gave in and they were giving in to demands that, you know, your wealthier liberals wanted, but the Jews were of a completely different type. And I think a lot of the frustration that created the violence against the Jews, you know, it was legitimate

came from the fact that he hadn't done anything wrong he had given in to certain things he will eventually abolish it but I also like the idea that you know there was no lack of professionalism in police because the patriotic movement that says in the earlier paragraph did not have

any officials within it which is you know I would have been if I was there I noticed how he's avoided the phrase, the Union of the Russian people, but it was created at this point. The Union of the Russian people or the Black Hundreds came out of this violence. We have to do something. They're going to do this all over the place. And I mentioned once Kerensky took over, their investigation into a lot of this stuff showed nothing but professionalism at the state that everything

it could to keep the peace. But what do you expect when you have an armed group of Jews? They have the entire university in their back pocket, even the municipal Duma maybe, even bureaucrats they may have had in their back pocket, convinced that they're, you know, that they're facing this man-eating monarch because of their propaganda. And worse than that, the foreign press, and this is, you see how disgusting they were already, you start hearing the 6 million figure a lot at this era because that was roughly the population of the area that they're that they're either going to be killed or their held prisoner or that

they're suffering or whatever it is not mentioning how privileged they were that comes up quite a bit in the American, especially the American Jewish press, even the American mainstream press. The Pittsburgh Jewish news mentioned it quite often. but yeah thousands slaughtered that was in the press in the English language in German I'm not sure about French

but thousands slaughtered for no reason the Tsar responds by shutting down education that was pretty much the the so-called journalism in the English-speaking countries and in parts of Germany too Air Grid Operator of Ireland's electricity grid

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revolutionary movement. This spirit of 1905, the spirit of the whole liberation movement, which has manifested itself so violently in Odessa, also broke out in these constitutional days in many other cities of Russia, both in and outside the Pala settlement. The pogroms broke out everywhere on the very day when was received the news of the proclamation from the manifesto. within the palest settlement pogroms were held in kremenshug shemagov vizza kishinev a bunch of cities in west russia yeah katerina slav elizabeth grad oman oma and many other towns and

villages the property of the jews was most often destroyed but not looted where the this is quoting where the police and the army took energetic measures the pogroms remained very limited and lasted only a short time Thus at Kamenetz-Poldsk, thanks to the effective and rapid action of the police and the army, all attempts to provoke a pogrom were stifled in the bud. In Sharsoni's and Nikolaev, the pogrom was stopped from the beginning. And in a southwestern town, the pogrom did not take place for the good reason that adult Jews administered a punishment to the young people who had organized an anti-government demonstration after the proclamation of the imperial manifesto of the 17th of October.

Okay. Okay, I've heard of that too. I think they're in a tiny minority, but you didn't have a small minority of Jews saying, we're doing really well. What are you doing? Now, obviously, it didn't work for long. And I have no problem with the police stopping the reaction.

It's not a program at all. But it's essentially, it's a battle between on two sides, two armed sides. If they, you know, would do the same. to the revolutionary movement. Odessa was unique because of just how Jewish it was. Maybe Gommel is another one, Kishnev is another one. But there was no other places that were quite that Jewish. But word traveled fast, and it became known even to just the ordinary person

that the revolutionary movement, no matter what, and the monarch didn't do anything wrong here. He just issued this manifesto for the doom and every. supposedly what you want and you take that as a sign of weakness and you create using the war with Japan as an excuse and so the frustration

of your typical person was just and you could feel it I could feel it it's so ridiculous but the one thing that they weren't were programs these were self-defense measures the Jews were armed in all of these same cities

the pale of settlement as far as the Jews were concerned was an armed camp and you know they were they were getting news back to them from the West oh my god I didn't realize 5,000 people were slaughtered in Odessa I didn't realize that because it's a lot of the same people on both sides even in the US in both sides of Europe that are writing these articles they didn't get those those figures from nothing so and as it got more and more lurid as it got you know, larger numbers, you had even greater cohesion. But in this case, you did have a couple of, I guarantee you, they were older, you know,

shopkeepers who said, enough is enough. You know, we're doing well right now. It's interesting. I was doing just some cursory research into the word pogrom, and they're trying to figure out it's a Yiddish word, was it inspired by a Russian word that meant destruction? and I immediately thought of the word, the term, Nakhpah, because Jews will immediately look at the, if you bring up the Nakhp, you're bringing up Arab propaganda,

you're bringing up anti-Semitic propaganda. Yeah, no one's allowed to have their own word. They have to have their own word for what happens to them. If you come up with a word, if somebody, if their victims come up with a word, then, yeah, it needs to be shattered down because they're the only ones who are allowed to have a word to describe the destruction that is brought upon them, quote unquote. For all the slaughters of the Soviet Union, there really isn't any word because purchase doesn't count. That was very specific to the government. These were just mass murders.

There's no word there. And it's kind of a shame. We have the Holodomor from the Ukrainian, meaning starvation. I guess to some extent. And of course, at the time, we're fast forwarding years ahead now, even to this day, if you go to, there's plenty of Jewish leftists who say that that didn't happen.

It's propaganda from Ukrainian nationalists. They're not saying that today, but they were saying that 10 years ago. Because you've got to remember, the typical Jewish point of view, the war has changed it a little bit, but typical Jewish point of view is that both sides are wrong. They're both Orthodox Slavs. We hate them both.

This war was such a godsend to them because it really doesn't matter. Ukraine associated with the Cossacks. And of course, Russia being what that is in the Jewish mind, they can't lose here. But Holodomor, other than that, there is no term. And yes, they get extremely irrationally angry about it. You know, not a Showa. and, you know, and many of them have no idea what the truth actually is because they have no access to it. They have a conception, maybe, by caricature, sort of, but they have such a stereotyped image in their head about who's arguing this way. They probably have never come across a legitimate criticism of either pogroms or anything else. But you hear the word pogrom being used.

for other things, but only once in a while. Programs are very specific to this era, in this part of Russia, and the stereotype is that Russian monsters, for utterly no reason, with the help of the government, started killing Jews because they were jealous, or they were jealous of Jewish success or whatever it was, and got maybe a million were killed.

that's the you know Jews were never armed they were never organized they were all accountants you know dragged out of their home for no reason little kids were raped all the all the nonsense that's when you say pogrom

that's the image that that pops up and and that's part of the reason why they like their own words because you don't use it in any other context when you do use it that's what that mental image is is brought out and it's usually an irrational reaction for that reason it's picture thinking

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24 pogroms took place outside the palest settlement, but they were directed against all the progressive elements of society, and not exclusively against the Jews. This circumstance puts in evidence what pushed people to organize pogroms, the shock effect provoked by the manifesto, and a spontaneous impulse to defend the throne against those who wanted to put down the Tsar. Pogroms of this type broke out in Rostov-on-Dahn, Tula, Yaroslav, a bunch of other cities. The Tadars participated actively in the pogroms of Kazan and Phaedosia, In Ver, the building of the Council of the Zemsvah was sacked. At Tomsk, the crowd set fire to the theater where a meeting of the left took place.

200 persons perished in the disaster. In Saratov, there were disturbances, but no casualties. The local governor was none other than Stolopin. On the nature of all these pogroms and the number of their victims, the opinions diverged strongly, according to the authors. The estimates that are made today are sometimes very fanciful. For example, in a 1987 publication, in the course of the programs, we count a thousand killed in tens of thousands of wounded and maimed. And as echoed by the press at that time, thousands of women were raped very often under the eyes of their mothers and children. Yeah, they love that lurid, and they're still using that same boilerplate for anyone they don't like.

but I still object to the use of pogrom here the, you know, Nicholas was popular. His wife was popular. Some of, not all of his policies were popular, but some of them were. And Russians were fiercely patriotic and to have a specific group of people with a few, you know, wealthy allies,

especially because they were wealthy. These weren't poor people fighting. You know, the poor were overwhelmingly Russian or Ukraine. It was completely outrageous. They were fighting back for the first time ever. And it would take the severity of World War I to make that, you know, the left can actually win. But wherever the left goes, leftists are revolutionaries. They believe in imposing their view by violence.

liberal democracy that's all been in capitalism that's always imposed by violence always at the barrel of a gun Marxism obviously always imposed at the barrel of a gun that's how they are and they're deceitful about it

they rarely when they're speaking to the crowd especially at this era you know socialists Democrats were not letting people know their full agenda they weren't saying that we're going to ban

the church and all this stuff that would have been the last thing they can do they should do so it was also deceptive. This was simply the population, direct democracy here, fighting back, and these means of fighting back against a violent minority were also themselves popular. The repression of them was not.

People wanted peace, of course. But wherever the left reaches a certain critical mass, they are violent. This is what they believe in. Everything they believe is usually unnatural. then and now, that means they have to force it by violence and deceit. And violence and deceit go hand in hand.

So any time there was any attempt at fighting back, you see this on the campuses today. I've won plenty of arguments on campus when I was a student. And it's a miracle I didn't get thrown out because they would all say, I don't feel safe with him around. That was the common... Now, I had a couple of professors on my side.

when I was young and very naive, I was passing out copies of the spotlight, the University of Hartford, which was pretty Jewish in 1992, I think, thinking that, oh, this is a university, it's free speech here, right? Spotlight of all things. I was very naive,

but what they ended up doing is saying, we don't feel safe with him. One guy, just doing something pretty normal, and in fact, especially if they lose an argument, which they did often, They, and of course, in the pre-internet days, it was a little different, but that was their, you know, it's all deception. We need to get rid of this guy. How do we get rid of them?

We could frame him for a crime or say that we don't feel safe or something like that. And that's the same thing here. Any attempt to fight back against their own tactics, using their own tactics, is treated as a pogrom. Conversely, G. Sliusberg, a contemporary of the events and with all the information, wrote, quote, Fortunately, these hundreds of pogroms did not bring about significant violence on the person of the Jews, and in the overwhelming majority of cases, the programs were not accompanied by murders. As for the women in the elderly, the rebuttal comes from the Bolshevik fighter Dementstein, who declared with pride, quote, Jews who were killed or wounded were for the most part some of the best elements of self-defense.

They were young and combative and prepared to die rather than surrender. End quote. As for the origins of the pogroms, a Jewish community and then the Russian public opinion in 1881 were under the tenacious hold of a hypnosis. Undoubtedly and undeniably, the pogroms were manipulated by the government. Of course. Petersburg guided by the police department. After the events of 1905, the whole press also. presented things as such. And Sliusberg himself in the midst of this hypnosis abounds in this sense.

Quote, for three days, the wave of programs has swept over the pale of settlement and according to a perfectly identical scenario were planned in advance. You know, sometimes it's shocking that there's any response to them. You know, they live in their own little world. It's worse now, the information bubble with all the censorship. But they just quote each other because they're not aware of any possible argument against them and they're very arrogant and they're they're into themselves at such an extent it just seems maniacal for anyone to oppose them but now you see you know linden trotky realizing that they had to kill a lot of people because there's a lot of russian orthodox people there was a lot of patriots here

no matter what was going on, they were going to fight for the state. So this was built in to the Soviet system. We have to wipe these people out, especially in rural areas. Remember, this is mostly urban. If they're patriotic in urban areas, they were far more so in rural areas. And they were wiped out to a great extent. And that was a political necessity, at least from their point of view. Of course, there's no word for it.

but Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, they were identical. There were no differences in their method or their ideology. The only differences were in circumstances and the resources they had at their disposal. The Soviet government had been established under Stalin. There was a big bureaucracy there. Lenin wasn't quite that, you know, it was still pretty weak in the beginning. Otherwise, they were exactly the same. The people who would become Bolsheviks for watching this,

stuff very carefully, realizing that, okay, you know, it's going to take a lot to take over. We're going to have to end up eliminating a huge chunk of the population. And Mao sought the same thing in China. That's just how the left is. And this strange absence in so many, many authors, if only one would attempt to explain things differently. Many years later, I Frumpkin acknowledged at least the pogroms of 1905 were not only anti-Jewish, but also counter-revolutionary.

And no one even asked the question, and if the root cause were the same and should be sought in political events, the state of mind of the population. Are not the same concerns expressed in this way? Let us recall that the crowd had here and there demonstrated against the strikers before the proclamation of the manifesto. Let us also recall that a general strike of the railways took place in October, and that the communications had been interrupted throughout the country. And in of this, so many programs broke out at the same time. It should also be noted that the authorities ordered investigations in a whole series of towns and the sanctions were imposed on police officers convicted of breaches of duty. Let us recall that during the same period, the peasants

organized programs against the landowners all over the place, and that they all proceeded in the same way. Without doubt, we are not going to say that these programs were also contrived by the police department and that they did not reflect the same uneasiness among all the peasants. It seems that one proof, only one of the existence of a scheme exists, but it does not point in the direction of power either. The minister of the Interior, R.N. Durnovo, discovered in 2006, that an official in charge of special missions, MS. Kamesarov had used the premises of the police department to secretly print leaflets calling for the fight against Jews and revolutionaries. It should be emphasized, however, that this was not an initiative of the department,

but a conspiracy by an adventurer, a former gendarme officer who was subsequently entrusted with special missions by the Bolsheviks to the Cheka, to the GPU, and was sent to the Balkans to infiltrate what remained of the Rangel army. Yeah, this was a leftist tactic when the peasants would uprise after the founding of the Soviet Union. They would have, you know, provocative agents within the peasants. This was, and the revolutionaries, little did they know what they were fighting. They didn't realize that what they were fighting is a revolutionary movement that's going to take over and slaughter a huge chunk of the population and crash the economy.

The Soviet economy never reached the pre-revolutionary levels. I mean, Russia was feeding the world. rain and riot at this point. Russia couldn't, the Soviet Union couldn't feed itself ever after the revolution, after the so-called revolution took place. So slaughter, starvation, I mean starvation and famine as a weapon as a tactic, they didn't realize how right they were. But police officers, yeah, this was an infiltrator.

That was happening all over the place. But they'd realize how right they were. There comes a point where if they're killing other police officers systematically, you can't be neutral anymore. It's not a neutral situation. It's a civil war. In a civil war, your enemy doesn't have due process rights. You kill them. And this is why there's never been any war on drugs.

What war has, you know, the enemy soldiers, every enemy soldier getting a lawyer? It's not a war. And they were still under this same handicap. a handicap that the Jews and the revolutionaries of all types were not fighting. They could do whatever the hell they wanted. And as I've said a hundred times, the law enforcement was not substantial. They were not used to this. And the population seeing this essentially was doing the police's job for them.

Now, it could go too far. That's always the case. But I'm noticing that, you know, children tended to be spared. It wasn't just stealing and trying to get wealthy off this stuff. It was punishment. The state really wasn't in a position to do much here. And Russians were law-abiding, but it got to the point where there is no neutrality. When you're talking about a Jewish revolutionary group that even at this point was talking about slaughtering people

and neutralizing the counter-revolutionary forces and the church and everything else, not quite as loudly as later on, but that's what they were fighting. I think the bulk of them didn't know that. But even people like St. John of Cronstadt was aware of what this was. They weren't fighting just some leftist weirdos. They were fighting evil.

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which to workers and peasants, overwhelmed by misery, devoted to the nobles and the capitalists, and as henchman, Lori Lorraine, tried to explain this by class struggle. Only the rich Jews would have been targeted, whereas the facts prove the contrary. It was precisely they, who enjoyed the protection of the police.

But even today, it is everywhere the same version of the facts. Let us take the example of the Encyclopedia Judaica. Quote, from the beginning, these programs were inspired by government circles. The local authorities received instruction to give freedom of action to the thugs and to protect them against Jewish detachments of self-defense, end quote. Let us take again the Jewish Encyclopedia published in Israel in the Russian language, quote, by organizing the pogroms, the Russian authorities sought two, the government wanted to physically eliminate as many Jews as possible, end quote. All these events, therefore, would not have

been the effect of the criminal laxity of the local authorities, but the fruit of a machination carefully guarded by the central government. However, Leo Tolstoy himself, who at the time was particularly upset with the government and did not miss an opportunity to speak ill of it, said at the time, I do not believe that the people pushed a, push to people to the pogroms. This has been said for Kishiniv as well as for Baku. It is a brutal manifestation of the popular will. The people see the violence of the revolutionary youth and resist it. Well, I think we should end there because there's a slight change in tone, but it's interesting. I had forgotten that about Tolstoy.

He's saying what I said, it's a brutal manifestation of the popular will. This is direct democracy in action. Yet the Bolsheviks were a tiny, tiny percentage of the population. I can't even believe this is a debate. The state had absolutely zero interest in creating unrest in areas that were making a lot of money. Not to mention they knew how they were going to be treated by the British and the French. and how they're being lied about constantly. Something that Nicholas said openly.

I know I'm being lied about in Britain. Remember, Queen Victoria was his wife's grandmother. So, you know, he did. Of course, they also spoke English to each other because she was raised over there for a while. Their diaries, love letters, the two of them, Nicholas and Alexander, were in English. So he knew exactly what was being said about it.

This is all complete deceit. But to have Tolstoy say something like this, this is, I had forgotten about that. But I love it. The brutal manifestation of the popular will. This is what the people have decided. You guys talk about the people all the time. But apparently this isn't what you mean.

It's only the people, people who are on your side, your friends. and I think, you know, the early media reports about, you know, 6,500,000, all these lurid rapes and everything else, that's not accepted as much anymore, but it's still a wildly exaggerated number. And they never say that the Jews were armed. They never say that the revolutionary movement was already armed and being financed by the British at this point.

both internal and external enemies were being financed by the British, especially its banking establishment. Even, you know, the founder of anarchism, you know, Mikhail Bakunan said Marxism is a Jewish play thing. It comes from the Rothschild family. That's why he got kicked out of the first international by Marx. So did PJ Prudon, the founder of one of the other founders of a very different kind of anarchism in France. They knew this. This was becoming increasingly well-known. So, but what these people were fighting, little did they know what they actually really were doing battle with.

And once the revolution occurred and the slaughter started, all of a sudden, you know, so now, now Lenin had to completely make up stories to justify himself and cover everything, I'll blame everyone else, bringing in naive people. You know, in the West, the intellectual fashion was that the USSR was the wave of the future. So, but still, even today, these wildly exaggerated numbers do circulate. The Jewish encyclopedia is probably the worst. I'm not 100% sure. But context is their enemy. They refuse to talk about the context. This is just because the people, the people couldn't possibly be opposed to them.

They were all liberals. They all wanted to be, you know, British parliamentarians. therefore they have to be manipulated by either churchmen or the state, which was completely ridiculous. The fact that that's even a debate now, for many reasons, is completely ridiculous. Workers and peasants, they didn't have any workers on their side. Their strikes were forced. They'll talk about the workers that were fighting for them. There were no workers fighting for them.

They had no connection to them. They didn't understand them. They didn't like them. It was just a rhetorical symbol more than anything else. everything is deceit and you have to spend a lot of time. You know, it's a full-time job penetrating that, that fog that they've created. The falsified version of event, it's so easy to just accept it. Very difficult to fight it.

And once you realize it's true, well, there's no going back. And as I do often, I remind people that if you have been paying attention since October 7th, you will see that nothing changes. It just, the propaganda, the context, the not allowing context, it's all the same. And, you know, people, I think less and less people are falling for it. Now, well, fewer and fewer people are falling for it now. So, yeah, the, yeah. Why is it such an impulse to use less when you should use?

fewer. I have no idea. But the, when you see, you know, they had some polls recently showing that less than 50% of Americans are supporting Israel. And in the in the zoomer category, it's like 20%. It's, I mean, they, this is why they're panicking. As they, as they always do. It's, it, it, it's a time, it's an amazing time to be alive because as you're reading this and you think about it, if you're a resident of Odessa and you're watching what's happening, you know, you have to believe, maybe not, but if you're conscious, if you're, you know, someone of a more cultured person, that you're watching history unfold. And it's very important history. And I think anybody who's really been paying attention since October 7th,

should be able to realize that they're watching a history unfold, and they're watching a, um, they're watching a change happen before their eyes. And the reason why you're seeing threats of anti-Semitism bills and all of these things is because they know they've been found out. The invasion, the invasion by Hamas,

it was not a false flag. That's nonsense. I fought against that from day one. Um, It's not true. That invasion of Israel was the most brilliant thing they could have done. I don't think even they realized the domino effect that that would have. So initially, Netanyahu was unpopular because he was doing, you know, he was, his, the settlers,

the Shas party and these other groups and his coalition, they didn't like homosexuals. You know, they were trying to increase the population. And so the American left, especially American Jewish left, this day. didn't like them and then trying to shut down the Supreme Court. But then the invasion occurs. And I guess the IDF or just, you know, the ruling class in Israel in general said, well, we don't have to worry. We slaughtered people all the time and got away with it. They overplayed their hand. They didn't realize that this stuff is going to be videotaped. Their invasion of Lebanon, starting October, November last year, they delivered.

targeted hospitals. They destroyed the UN mission there. They're using precision weaponry. These aren't mistakes. They know exactly what they're doing. The point of the invasion was, you know, they didn't really get what they wanted. It was to terrorize the population. There's no hospitals working in Gaza as of right now. They destroyed the hospitals in South Lebanon quite deliberately. They're not using these dumb 2,000 pound bombs like they used to. These are precision strikes. they're deliberately destroying any attempt to treat the wound and at some point because Netanyahu was making himself unpopular to begin with suddenly and I can't believe I'm saying this

it became somewhat fashionable to be anti-Israel they pushed too far they just assumed that we'll be covered over again didn't help that that Netanyahu's killed what 200 journalists which you know okay they're not all bad But, you know, that doesn't help him either, deliberately targeting these people. So they tend to, for all their alleged intelligence, they never know when to pull it back. And they've been doing this for years. But this is all brought about by the invasion of Hamas against an overstretched, undermanned IDF.

And as far as I'm concerned, they're winning. they brought in the Houthis they brought in Hezbollah they're forcing the Israeli army to be there would be in three places at once they always were struggling with being overstretched there's no South Lebanon army anymore that was destroyed by Hezbollah Hezbollah is a first class military organization

and yes it's been exposed and when they're attacking UN centers it's really hard how do you censor that They destroyed the UN mission in Lebanon because they knew too much. They were seeing too much. Since when do you do that? Since when do you attack Red Cross sites where they were doing it all the time with precision weaponry? You can't get away with it anymore.

Come on, Dr. Johnson. You know that every single one of these things that they have destroyed has been acting as a human shield. There's been a boogeyman hiding behind them. and, you know, like that, you know, any baby that's incinerated is because some Hamas fighter is hiding behind them. You realize that famous, and this is not being hyperbolic, I mean, Jewish journals have written on this, the neurosis that is inherent in these people. It's so out of control that they, they honest, at this point, I think they actually believe. what they're, most of them believe what they're saying. Well, there's a lot of inbreeding.

There's no doubt about it. Israel's in serious trouble. But the fact that all of a sudden, now Jews are trying to do damage control. We're seeing that. They're trying to blame this. This is just Netanyahu. That's their big line, which is nonsense.

But, you know, yeah, among younger people, there is very little support for Israel. what with the last pillar of support they have are these damn Protestants, these evangelicals with their BS conception of the Bible, which they have no conception of that's that's their last group of support as the evangelicals. Other than that, they're, they're,

you know, and Israel would last two minutes without American, without American backing. All righty. As I do at the end of every show, go support Dr. Johnson. Go to the show notes. Go to the videos.

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