The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 49

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

65 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson continue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonDr. Johnson's Pogroms ArticlePete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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after Johnson. I'm doing much better. Once I discovered on YouTube, a channel called Abandoned Media, and they have a very brief video, the most Jewish man in the world. And I am recommending you drop whatever you're doing and watch it.

It's like two minutes, but it is hilarious. And I can't believe it's still there. I mean, he has some other ethnicities and stuff. too. But that that will, if that doesn't make you laugh, then there's something wrong with you probably physically. Someone sent me the link to that yesterday morning and I immediately downloaded it from from YouTube being worried that it might disappear rather quickly.

I watched it like 17 times. If anyone who hasn't gotten it yet, this is, you know, I think the only reason it's on still is because he's spreading it out. He has the most British man, most Canadian man, most confrontation, most Italian man. And if they said, okay, he's doing everybody. So it's not a political site. So maybe he's going to get away with this. The one, as somebody who grew up in New York, I also really appreciated the most Italian man. That was a good one.

I think, yeah. And from central New Jersey, I also appreciated it. you know, that was my whole neighborhood. You're either Jewish or Italian or us. Well, some people will say that once you really get into neighborhoods like that, it's kind of hard to tell the Jews and Italians apart. That was very interesting. It might be worth a talk one day about how, you know, back then, you know, when I was a kid,

say early mid-80s, how they divided, you know, local responsibilities between them. You know, much stronger, you know, at least, you know, both groups had a very strong sense of self. And they ran specific aspects of the town. And I guess we were, because we own the funeral home, we were honorary Italians. I mean, Irish and Italians always got along anyway. And probably 60% of our business were Italians. So we were kind of absorbed into that.

you know, Jews had their own thing going in North Jersey. But I was given a lesson in ethnicity from babyhood. Yeah, yeah. You grew up in the metropolitan New York area. You were definitely growing up in multiculturalism. That is for sure. Yeah, Union County. Well, in multicultural, with the Italians and Irish,

that's a good sense of multicultural, especially for America. you know, but the old Italian or Irish neighborhoods have long since been destroyed. What's little Italy now, I think it's just one street. It used to be 50 square blocks. You know, and that was quite deliberate. All right. Onward, this is a subject that will always raises the ire of those. who belong to the tribe of those who call themselves Jews.

So we will move on with this. Thousands and thousands of pages have been written about the Bayliss trial. Anyone who would like to study closely all the meanders of the investigation of the public opinion of the trial itself would have to devote at least several years to it. This would go beyond the limits of this work. 20 years after the event under the Soviet regime, the daily reports of the police on the progress of the trial were published. They can be commended to the attention of amateurs. It goes without saying that the verbatim record of the entire proceedings was also published, not to mention the article is published in the press. Andre Usinski, a 12-year-old boy, people of a religious

institution in Kiev, is the victim of a savage and unusual murder. There are 47 punctures on his which indicate a certain knowledge of anatomy. They were made to the temple, to the veins and arteries of the neck, to the liver, to the kidneys, to the lungs, to the heart, with a clear intention of emptying him of blood as long as he was still alive. And in addition, according to the traces left by the blood flow, in a standing position, tied and gagged, of course. It can only be the work of a very clever criminal who certainly did not act alone. The body was discovered only a week later in a cave on the territory of the

factory of Zytezev, but the murder was not committed there. Well, I never cared for the longest time. It was sort of like the protocols to me. I didn't care that much for years and years and years about the ritual murder issue until Ariel Tov's book came out, which is something the Jews did not expect, you know, especially being a professor in Israel. But as we go along, now I have a paper that I'm still in the process of cleaning up that you are going to put on your site, you know, for everyone to be able to read. Because I could read Russian OK. I wrote it a couple years ago. Or right, I mean, I stress OK, you know, sort of. I was very impressed with the evidence for the prosecution.

Now, keep in mind, there was no such thing as ritual murder as a crime in Imperial Russia. It was a simple matter of murder, and it had different types of degrees like you would have in any normal judicial system. It turned out that it was the Jewish lawyer for the accused, Beelis, that brought it up. And it revealed as much about Jews as a whole. It almost symbolized. It crystallized everything we've been talking about in Jewish life in Russia up until this point. And it's very difficult in academia to even talk about it. Almost every of the reasoning of thousands of pages, most of them are unreadable.

They're all saying the same kind of thing. It's mostly Jewish authors, which is often the case in Jewish questions. I would think that a Gentile author would be terrified to publish anything that isn't just falling all over itself to venerate their social superiors. But one of the things that struck me when I first started reading these very same proceedings was how quickly they forgot about the kid. Now, this kid was loved by everybody. And I think that was part of the problem. He wanted to be a priest. everyone liked them

you know he was excellent in his studies in other words he was the perfect target you know a land without blemish that kind of thing but it was the Jewish lawyers that brought up the ritual part of it not the state

they thought somehow that would that would help their case most of these thousands and thousands of pages are nothing but propaganda And it shows you how the Soviet media worked that they would publish this stuff, but they'll editorialize afterwards, but they'll publish it in full. It's very typical of the Soviet media. They'll tell the truth about what's going on and then editorialize completely afterwards, or even within it.

you know, they're more trustworthy than the American press is, certainly. So this kid was, you know, dumped in a place where everyone's going to find him a few days later. He was alive throughout all of this, so he was tortured to death. His mouth was clamped throughout. Obviously, these guys, as we see here, knew exactly what they were doing. I guess at some point as a blood drained out, he passed out. But, yeah, they kept them in a standing position. But the, I mean, the local people kind of brought up the ritual aspects,

because that's the only thing that could explain the nature of these wounds. And so many of the witnesses were killed, including two of this poor mother, Ushin Skaia. No, that wasn't her name. I forget. she lost two other children who saw the kidnapping of this kid. Two of them, after eating cakes from friends of Beelis died. So obviously there were murder.

So many people were murdered or just disappeared. Witnesses wouldn't testify. This really was the very fact that they pulled out all the stops here suggests that they had a lot to hide. And this is what got me into this issue. I don't know a lot about some of the other cases. There's been a lot in Russian history and certainly Western European history. But this one in particular,

because it was put under the microscope of your typical modern legal system. And that's something, you know, the Jews themselves tried to make center stage. It wasn't supposed to be. It was a Jewish lawyer. I think you'll mention it here. a little bit that brought the ritual case because there was no such crime in Russian law as ritual murder. Savage murder. I guess we would translate a savage murder.

That was, I guess, something along the lines of first degree. But anyway, that's, you know, that's what got me into ritual murder. And then when Ariel Tooff's book came out, what, 10 years ago and he gives credence to some of this stuff. I mean, most Jews, you know, this is obviously oral teachings, but, you know, most Jews are not aware of it. but of course there's always going to be fanatics and especially when you connect that with the hatred of Gentiles especially in Russia and especially in Ukraine you know it's a perfect storm

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How did all this happen? The investigation into the murder was carried out by the criminal police of Kiev, a worthy colleague, obviously of the security section of Kiev, which had gotten tangled up in the Bogorov affair, and thus caused the law. of Stilippin. The work was entrusted to two nobodies in all respects similar to Kuliopko, Bogroff's curator, Michouk, and Krozovsky, assisted by dangerous incompetence. They cleaned the snow in front of the cave to facilitate the passage of the corpulent commissioner of police, thus destroying any potential indications of the presence of the murderers. But worse still, rivalry settled between the investigators. It was to whom the merit of the discovery of the guilty person would be attributed by whom the best version would be proposed. And they did not hesitate to get

in each other's way to sow confusion in the investigations but pressure on the witnesses to stop the competitor's indicators. Krosowski went so far as to put makeup on the suspect before introducing him to a witness. This parody of inquiry was conducted as if it were a trivial story without the importance of the event even crossing their minds. When the trial finally opened two and a half years later, Michouk had run off to Finland to escape the charge of falsification of material evidence. A significant collaborator of Krasovsky had also disappeared. And as for the latter, dismissed of his duties, he had switched sides and was now working for Bayliss's lawyers.

Oh, Lord. The snow thing, I had kind of forgotten about that part of it. Maybe it was incompetence, maybe it wasn't. Because at this stage, the minute they got Beelis in once they arrested him Jews and not just in Kiev got very upset I think they're very upset very quickly news traveled very quickly with this very cohesive group and the process of getting rid of people started they spent a fortune there was an entire committee for the defense of Beelis set up in I guess it was Kiev maybe even in the capital and more than one in different capitals in in europe um i've never read the um like the english language press at the time for if i did i've forgotten uh i'm sure it was a complete distortion of everything but the

the lengths that organized jewelry around the world went through to destroy this case you know, including, you know, bribery and murder. I just wonder if some of this incompetence wasn't really incompetence at all. And no one was going to switch sides like this unless they were given a, you know, Andre's mother was offered a huge, I think it was 50,000 gold rubles and safe passage out of the country if she copped to it, which of course was a failure. That was one of their first strategies. She couldn't possibly have done this. Now she's lost three children, you know, two, and they were clearly all murdered. And people forgot very quickly that there's a dead boy here, the best of, of, the best of Russian Orthodox young people, which is I think why he was killed.

You know, it's not just some guy who's going to be a baker or something. This is why, because he was a, a. pure boy. This was a perfect person, a perfect target. And I don't think that gets stressed to know because of what kind of kid he was. He was the best of old Russia. And God knows what he would have been like if he actually grew up became a priest and maybe a bishop or something like that. So this was really reading about this from even a purely objective point of view, which is very hard to find, is terrifying, knowing that in 1911, 12, 13, the length that they went through to destroy this trial, this case, and the people connected to him.

For nearly two years, we went from one false version to another. For a long time, the accusation was directed to the family of the victim, until the latter was completely put out of the question. It became clearer and clearer that the prosecution was moving towards a formal accusation against Bayliss and towards his trial. He was therefore accused of murder, even though the charges against him were downed. doubtful because he was a Jew. But how was it possible in the 20th century to inflate a trial to the point of making it a threat to an entire people? Beyond the person of Bayliss, the trial turned, in fact,

into an accusation against the Jewish people as a whole. And since then, the atmosphere around the investigation and then the trial became superheeded. The affair took on an international dimension, gained the whole of Europe, and then America. Until then, trials for ritual murders had taken place rather in the Catholic milieu. Grodno, 1816, Belish, 1825, Vilnius de Blonde's case, 1900. The Kutais case, 1878, took place in Georgia, Dubasar, 1903 in Moldova. While in Russia, strictly speaking, there was only the Saratov affair in 1856. Slaesberg, however, does not fail to point out that the Saratov affair also had also a Catholic origin

While in Bayliss's case, it was observed that the band of thieves, who was suspected at one time, was composed of Poles, and the ritual crime expert appointed at the trial was a Catholic, and the attorney, Sheplinski, was also Polish. Yeah, as this trial, you know, given the Jewish defense strategy of actually bringing up the ritual side of this, you know, he thought that this was going to be some sort of a weapon he could use. I mean, you had threats against a jury right in the courtroom. Now, I love the fact that, you know, the charges were false. Well, because he was a Jew. Obviously, he's doing that tongue in cheek. But you've had plenty of people who were saying that at the time. I have, I don't know if it's in here, but I have a quote from,

the Batinsky saying that how dare the Gentiles even question us? They have no right to question us. it just brought out the absolute worst in powerful Jews all over the planet but especially in Russia in Russia in Ukraine but yeah the names now both sides had experts

you had scholars in various areas and the names you know were interesting they clearly weren't Russian names maybe they could be but yes there were there were polls and so much that didn't have to be a part of the trial, the ritual side of things were brought brought up. The Jews themselves, I want to repeat, brought up the ritual claims, not the prosecution side,

not the Russian side. And that was actually a defense strategy, which didn't really work out, even though, I mean, it was like in America, it would be called a hung jury six to six. but in Russia that was sufficient to you know he certainly wasn't he wasn't called innocent but there just wasn't enough quote unquote direct evidence well that's that's what happens when witnesses were either dead or refused to testify or disappeared

God knows what would have happened otherwise plus the jury and I think this was the case inside the Charlottesville stuff in America in 2020 in many I think juries are threatened more than we realize. Not even directly, maybe indirectly. So it was Jews themselves, defense counsel for Bealus, that brought up the ritual side of things and had this incredible explosion on the world stage. Even to the point you have Jewish writers saying, okay, Zard Nicholas has signed his death warrant, as if he had anything to do with any of this. He didn't.

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Get the facts. Be Drinkaware. Visit drinkaware.a.e. The findings of the investigation were so questionable that they were only retained by the Kiev indictment chamber by three votes to two. While the monarchist right had sparked an extensive press campaign, Perrischiewicz expressed himself in the Duma in April 1911. Quote, we do not accuse the Jews as a whole. We cry for the truth about this strange and mysterious crime. quote, is there a Jewish sect that advocates ritual murder? If there are such fanatics, let them be stigmatized. As for us, we are fighting against many sects in Russia, our own.

But at the same time, he declared that, according to him, the affair would be stifled in the Duma by fear of the press. Indeed, at the beginning, at the opening of the trial, the right-wing nationalist Shulgin declared himself opposed to it being held and to the miserable baggage of the judicial authority. in the columns of the patriotic Kievan, for which he was accused by the extreme right to be sold to the Jews. But in view of the exceptionally monstrous character of the crime, no one dared to go back to the accusation in order to resume the investigation from scratch. On the other side, the liberal radicals also launched a public campaign relayed by the press and not only the Russian press, but that of the whole world. The tension had reached a point of no return, sustained by the partiality of the accusation, it only escalated and the witnesses themselves were soon attacked.

According to V. Rosanov, every sense of measure had been lost, especially in the Jewish press. Quote, the Iron Fist of the Jew falls on venerable professors, on members of the Duma, on writers, end quote. I don't want anyone to think that these two press campaigns were remotely equal. Yeah, the right wing newspapers, they did talk about it. but even they were very deeply divided. But that was a footnote compared to the massive avalanche that the Jews were financing, whether it be their own press or the press that they owned,

either directly or indirectly, even outside of Russia. You know, there weren't two equal sides here. And the only way, and, you know, throughout all of this, the poor boy gets forgotten about. You know, typical. You know, the Jews made this whole thing about themselves. They didn't give a damn that there was this dead gentiles. I was going to be a priest.

You know, that's a good thing. It's almost like a symbol of what was to come. But if I have a whole book on this, if, if Zorn Nicholas was murdered in a semi-ritualistic way, which he was, then the concept of ritual murder is a legitimate question. And you imagine my shock when Tooff's book came out. I can't imagine, you know, how the man was treated. I've read it more than once. It's

and he mentions the Beeler's case quite often. He says, yes, there are some good reasons to believe that ritual murder exists. But as far as what we're seeing so far, is there's reason to believe it precisely because of this hysterical reaction and the ritualistic side hadn't even been brought up yet. They were already going bonkers. The ritualistic side, that, you know, I mean, people thought it maybe. But as far as the state was concerned, they couldn't bring it up.

The judge in the case didn't want it brought up at all because, again, there's not a legal category. It was the defense that brought it up. But even if it wasn't brought up at all, they still would have had because how dare they bring a Jew to trial that not only murdered Gentile, but a virtuous Gentile who wanted to be a priest. His name got forgotten about throughout all of this. And it shows you the mentality that they tried to bribe the mother, you know, I think it was 40,000 gold rubles and free passage abroad. And they were going to sneak around to the country,

which just in and of itself shows you that they're, you know, there were smugglers from the beginning. You know, they're just a, it was just, you know, a massive crime syndicate in one of their strongholds. in Kiev in Ukraine. But the state apparatus in St. Petersburg, I think the majority opinion is that the ritual side of things wasn't relevant. Either they had no opinion or they didn't think it was.

But when you go over the patterns of the, you know, why did they kill them this way? You had two Jews showing up. The kids saw them in, you know, ritualistic, you know, investments. there was a small synagogue that they had built at that the brick factory, which by the way burned down shortly after all this. I'm sure there's just a coincidence. And then those two people disappeared.

So many people disappeared here. But you can't bring that up in Western society today. There's one area that, you know, other than, other than the Holocaust, which is one area other than that, that is just loaded with censorship. and fear it's this issue, especially this particular case. However, the ultimate attempts to get the investigation back on track had failed. The stable near the Zytezav factory, which was initially neglected by Krasovsky,

and then assumed to have been the scene of the crime, burned down two days before the date fixed for its examination by Hacy investigators. I'm sure that's coincidence. Total coincidence, yes. A brazen journalist, Brajul-Brasul-Brizzan. Bruskovsky conducted his own investigation, assisted by the same Krasovsky, now released from his official duties. It must be remembered that Bunch Brubich published a pamphlet accusing Brazul of venality. They put forward a version of the facts, according to which the murder was allegedly committed by Vera Shiberiak, whose children frequented Andrei Ushinsky, herself flirting with

the criminal underworld. During their long months of inquiry, the two Chervaryak sons died under obscure circumstances. Vera accused Krasowski of poisoning them, who in turn accused her of killing her own children. Ultimately, their version was that Yushinsky had been killed by Sherriac in person with the intention of simulating a ritual murder. She said that the lawyer Margolin had offered her 40,000 Rubles to endorse the crime, which he denied at the trial, even though he was subject at the same moment to administrative penalties for indelicacy. Well, I'm happy they brought it up here. I kind of forgotten what they mentioned or what they didn't mention.

But at one point or another, there were several versions that were created in the Jewish press. A gypsy murder? I don't know where they got that one from. of course, the Chirbiak, you know, his own mother. A gang of thieves, which I think the press largely, you know, there are men involved, but it was, you know, they weren't a gang until the press said they were. There were several others, you know, certain other individuals that they pointed to who were not Jewish.

But in the early days, you know, of the investigation, the press was doing everything it could to throw at least the public mind, any possible juror off as to what may have happened. But again, because of witnesses either being murdered or quickly disappeared, kidnapped or disappeared, whatever, the prosecution was really doomed from the start.

And sometimes I wonder if, you know, the jury just didn't say, look, let's at least put an effort in. Let's have, I guess, they didn't have the concept of a hung jury, but let's just, you know, break evenly just so we don't get murdered later on. Because it's like very Hillary Clintonish, the number of people killed or just disappeared. In this case is very, very, that list is very long. And they didn't want to be added to it.

So on the one hand, they could let him go. On the other, they at least could give a showing that, you know, six of them voted for. Trying to disentangle the innumerable details of this judicial imbroglio would only make the understanding even more difficult. It should also be mentioned that the medice of the revolution and the secret police were also involved. In this connection, mention should be made of the equivocal role and strange behavior during the trial of Lieutenant Colonel Jandamari Pavel Ivanov, the very one who, in defiance of all laws, helped Bograf already condemned to death to write a new version of the reasons which would have prompted him to kill Stolipin, a version in

which the full weight of responsibility fell on the organs of security to which Ivanov did not belong. The trial was about to open in a stormy atmosphere. It lasted a month, September to October 1913. It was incredibly heavy. 213 witnesses summoned to the bar 185 presented themselves, still slowed down by the procedural artifices raised by the parties involved. The prosecutor Vipper was not up to the standard of the group of brilliant lawyers, Grusenberg, Karabetshevsky, Malikov, Makulikov, Zarudny,

who did not fail to demand that the blunders he uttered be recorded in the minutes. For example, the course of this trial, he is hampered by Jewish gold. They seem to laugh at us. See, we have committed a crime, but no one

will dare to hold us accountable. Talking about the Jews in general. not surprisingly during the trial, Vipper received threatening letters on some were drawn a slip knot, and not just him, but the civil parties, the expert of the prosecution, probably also the defense lawyers, the dean of the jury also feared for his life. There was a lot of turmoil around the trial, selling passes for accesses to hearings. All of Kiev's educated people were boiling. The man in the street, him remained indifferent.

I tend to doubt that last part, unless again, this is also tongue-in-cheek because a boy was murdered. I don't know if he means indifferent to how this trial was going. There certainly was tons of outrage, whether they had different, you know, there weren't a whole lot of places to go to get rock-solid information. But this is an impressive list of lawyers. These are all private lawyers now. Oscar Grusenberg was the chief he had been involved in actual ritual murder cases before and he got many

Jewish murderers off in the past a few anyway that's why he was elite that's why they went for him this was your you know this was like OJ you know the dream team these were the best were the best we already talked about the Jewish control of the bar

by that point and Grusenberg was the one, as I mentioned, who brought up the ritual thing where he didn't have to. So out of 213 witnesses, 185 showed. And of course, they did everything. And now with a guy named Le Hipper, he ended up being a total non-entity. He was not the person who should have been doing this. But I can't imagine being in his position.

I'm not entirely sure what I would do. You know, I guess I'd just end up a martyr, I suppose. But I reject the idea that people were indifferent. People were outraged that this boy had been killed. I think what he means is that they were indifferent to what was going on in the courtroom. But this was being covered heavily in probably every language in Europe. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area,

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I mean, in the United States down in Atlanta. I mean, basically at the same time, you're dealing with the Leo Frank case is coming to light. Right. Spirit of the... Yes, and it's roughly the same time period. Spirit of the age. All right. Detailed medical examination was carried out.

Several professors spread their differences as to whether or not Yashinsky had remained alive until the last wound, and how acute were the sufferings he had endured. But it was the theological scientific expertise that was at the center of the trial. It focused on the very principle of the possibility of ritual murders perpetrated by Jews, and it was on this that the whole world focused its attention. The defense appealed to recognize authorities in the field of Hebraism, such as Rabbi Mays, a specialist in the Talmud. He must have been a joy to be around.

The expert appointed by the Orthodox Church, Professor I. Trotsky, of the Theological Academy of Petersburg, concluded his intervention by rejecting the accusation of an act of cold blood attributable to the Jews. He pointed out that the Catholic Church had never made such accusations that these were peculiar to the Catholic world. Beekerman later... The Orthodox Church had not... Go ahead, I'm sorry. The Orthodox Church hadn't made those. Yeah, it was the Catholic thing, is what they were saying.

Bikerman later recalled that in Imperial Russia, the police officers themselves, cut short almost every year rumors about the Christian bloodshed during the Jewish Passover. Otherwise, we would have had a case of ritual murder, not once every few decades, but every year. The main expert cited by the prosecution was the Catholic priest, Pranitis, to extend the public debate the prosecutors demanded the previous ritual murder cases be examined but the defense succeeded in rejecting the motion these discussions on whether the murder was ritual or not ritual only further increased the emotion that the trial had created throughout the whole world the judge was very clear the the ritual concept

again was first brought up by the defense the ritual concept was only permitted to come up relative to um Bielis's motivation and yet because of the nature of the defense strategy the ritual side of things became the core of it all I vehemently disagree with Troitsky

um rejecting the accusation not what he actually said was that he's not entirely sure rabbi may's you know the the prosecution were excellent cross-examiner's they eventually ended up saying we're not 100% sure.

It's conceivable, although unlikely, that such a thing could exist. So even though Vipper wasn't one of the greatest, when it came to this kind of thing, he had a mind such that he really could get to the heart of the matter very quickly. His cross-examination was first class, at least in this particular case. This army of experts that came out, ultimately the consensus was, that we don't think it exists, but given what's said in the Talmud, what's said in the Zohar view, these other things,

it is conceivable. That's some sect, that some whatever. But the newspapers at the time, whatever was happening in the courtroom, the Committee for the Defense of Abilis, and there were so many other, there were just so many organizations, like Leo Frank,

you know, helped create the ADL. in the U.S. We're doing everything they could to, you know, throw people off the trail. Yeah, you don't have a whole lot of Orthodox cases of this, although you do have a few. In fact, a few who are in the calendar of saints, but long enough ago where you didn't have a modern system like this

and not that many Jews in the country. this sort of thing and now what the police are saying here that you know if we if we really went after ritual murder we wouldn't we wouldn't do anything else the implication here that this happens a lot but we simply can't afford the chaos of bringing it up all the time you know um so um this is uh this is bringing out the worst but but i i do want to point out with well he he might not have been the best prosecutor his cross-examination of defense witnesses was actually pretty good. They didn't, you know, coldly reject, but they did say it was a possibility.

But it was necessary that a judgment should be pronounced on this accused and not another. And this mission went to a dull jury composed of peasants painfully supplemented by two civil servants and two petty bourgeois. All were exhausted by a month of trials. They fell asleep during the reading of the materials of the case, requested that the trial be shortened. Four of them solicited permission to return home before its conclusion and some needed medical assistance. Nevertheless, do you...

Well, first of all, I don't like the insult to the peasants. It was a representative jury that no doubt had been threatened by this point. He's making it sound like they're being irresponsible. I think they had been threatened individually and collectively. there were cases of that right in the courtroom, reminding them of the power that Jews have, you know, right there. And the press, of course, you know, made matters infinitely worse. No, a juror can't request that a trial be shortened, not in Russia, not in the U.S., but it's hard to blame these people, given what was going on outside the courtroom and the possibility that they may never be seen. again.

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Get the facts. Be drink aware. visit drinkaware.e. Nevertheless, these jurors judged on the evidence. The accusations against Bayliss were unfounded, not proved, and Baylis was acquitted. And that was the end of it. No new search for culprits was undertaken, and this strange and tragic murder remained unexplained. Instead, and this was in the tradition of Russian weakness, it was imagined, not without

ostentation, to erect a chapel on the very spot where the corpse of young Yoshinsky had been discovered. but this project provoked many protests because it was judged reactionary, and Rasputin dissuaded the Tsar from following up on it. The trial heavy and ill-conducted, with a white-hot public opinion for a whole year, in Russia as in the rest of the world, was rightly considered a battle of Tsushima. It was reported in the European press that the Russian government had attacked the Jewish people, but that it was not the latter that had lost the war. It was the Russian state itself.

It's sort of what I meant when there were a few writers who were saying that this is it. You know, somehow the state is involved here. The czar is personally bringing this about, you know, stupid things. Like he, you know, personally paid someone to make it look like a ritual killing. I mean, idiotic things. And they're not going to prison for lying. That doesn't happen. So they pretty much made up whatever they want.

The Jews tightly controlled the information. And the only real outlet were, you know, right-wing papers, ecclesial papers that were coming out. And they themselves, you know, there was a huge amount of money spent here. The stuff that was invented, I know in the German press and the, well, I shouldn't say the English and the French press were absurd. I'm not sure about the American press. Although I think the American press just took from the British press.

but it doesn't surprise me here that no it is somehow this case the very fact that you dared bring a Jew trial was the death warrant for the Russian state that is to say Tsar Nicholas that the Jewish nation had been attacked how dare you even accuse us of anything that this was worse than the alleged loss of the Russo Japanese war that you know if you thought that the so-called pogroms unified Jewish opinion. Well, now you have this. Very close to the start of World War I. And it's interesting because, yeah, it was a hung jury,

we would call a hung jury six to six. But keep in mind that, yes, he was acquitted, but there was no such thing then or now of calling him innocent. The evidence wasn't happening. bad against them. I've mentioned a lot of it already. But so many people had been murdered, you know, and they weren't followed up on, especially the children who actually saw him get kidnapped by Beelis personally, are gone. Someone came around, a Jew came around with cakes that look really good. Kids ate them and they were dead. I'm sure there's a connection

there. We talked about the mother already. There were. so many so many other issues of some of the policemen i don't know if it's incompetence or if they were being paid to be uh incompetent and there was no question there was you know financial pressure the british government was watching this very very carefully and i think we've shown in all of our work uh on this book that um you know the british government was heavily judeized and because of the rothschild family saw itself as a defender of Jews worldwide. And all of this stuff led ultimately to Britain,

despite them being on the same side, oh, that was a matter of convenience. In World War I, of course, Russians were anti-I. I mean, sorry, the English were as anti-Russians you can get. This all eventually developed into their support of the revolution, the loathing of the white armies, and their ultimate acceptance of Trotsky especially, Lenin secondarily, but Trotsky especially,

as I think Wilson said, the only true statesman in Russia. White hot public opinion, you know, that was very artificial. And it really showed, not so much, the state, the state in Petersburg, you know, they didn't, they had nothing to do with any of this. And somehow they're dragged into it, The way that the Jewish mind in all their neuroses processed it was that this is now a

Beelish innocence, according to them, means that the Russian state stands convicted. Now, the mental gymnastics you need to get there, I don't even know, but that's what the press was talking about. And you had Jewish writers and non-Jewish writers. This was a big left-right issue. It also exposed, though, the weakness of the Russian right wing, who really didn't have a solid opinion one way or the other. Some accepted it that he was a killer, at least, if not a ritual killer.

Some rejecting it. And all of it, though, was done in a state of fear. The worst thing that happened to Russia was the, and I think we've shown that at this point, the worst thing that happened to Russia was the destruction of the Polish Empire and the partitions of Poland that brought this huge number of Jews within Russia's borders. The country would never be the same again. This shows just how powerful the Jews had become and how wealthy they had become. And the state was as completely neutral as you would expect in these cases.

But the way that, you know, journalists, journalists or that that discipline is, you know, corruption just almost inherently, especially back then, dragging Nicholas into this and trying to connect the two and then making his own murder or at least a semi-ritoricualistic enterprise. So that's, you know, we know that for a fact. And showing the nature of the Russian government, they were actually hearings on the ritual nature of the murders of Tsar Nicholas under, you know, like 10 years ago in the Russian Duma. You imagine that happening in the U.S. So, you know, this was, how they got to that conclusion is another matter. but if anything brought both the Western world and the Jews to be purely revolutionary,

it was this, more so than the so-called pogromes. The chapter, the paragraph after the sentence, I'm going to read the two sentences. I'm going to read is about the Leo Frank case. I just want to prepare people that there's a lot wrong in this paragraph. but I will read. As for the Jews, with all their passion, they were never to forgive this affront to the Russian monarchy. The fact that

the law had finally triumphed did nothing to change their feelings. It never does. It would be instructive, however, to compare the bailist trial with another that took place at the same time 1913, 1915, and Atlanta, USA, a trial which

then made great noise. The Jew Leo Frank also accused of the murder of a child, a girl raped and murdered, and again with very uncertain charges. They were not uncertain. He was guilty. He was condemned to be hung in during the proceedings of cassation, an armed crowd snatched him from prison and hanged him. That's not true either. He had been condemned. He had been found guilty. He was condemned to be killed by the state and the governor, um, set aside his his death sentence.

And that's when the crowd went in and took him out and hung him. Okay. On the individual level, the comparison is in favor of Russia. But the Leo Frank affair had but little echo in public opinion and did not become an object of reproach. It's been a long time since I read in detail about the Leo Frank case. Can you briefly lay out the evidence for his gun? guilt? Well, the evidence for his guilt was he was seen with the girl the same day. The person who they tried to blame it on was not even in the building. When they tried to interview him, when they

tried to take him in the next day so that they could show him around, he was completely incoherent. He was shaking. He, you know, just every, every bit of evidence. And I've gone over this on my show with E Michael Jones, and I've also gone over it with a lawyer friend of mine who looked at the trial, and just every piece of evidence pointed to him. He was the only one. It was after hours. They were the only ones there. He was the only one who possibly could have done it.

Even the Ku Klux Klan said, yeah, the black guy didn't do it. It was this guy. So he was put on trial. He was found guilty. They sentenced him to death. Rich Jews from up north, the same ones, the same B'nai Brith, the same ADL, because he was actually, Leo Frank was actually the president. If I believe, check me on this, was the president of the Beney Brith in Atlanta. They poured the equivalent of $30 million into this trial and to propaganda in Atlanta.

And they still found him, they found him guilty. numerous, numerous appeals to try to get, try to get him out of prison and at least to try to get the death sentence overturned. None of them worked. Finally, some rich Jews bribed the governor, and he commuted his sentence. The governor was getting ready to get out of office. As soon as he left office, he went to New York and was sent on a world, like a cruise around the world, to get him out of the country and everything. I mean, it was, It was an open and shut case that was turned into a side show because he was the president of the B'nai Breth. Well, the one big difference, I mean, clearly there's a lot of similarities here and not just a time period.

But Bealus was not nearly a Leo Frank in terms of the Jewish hierarchy. You know, he owned a what was called at least a brickyard. So, but otherwise, and of course, there was rape involved in the Frank case. There wasn't with poor Andre. And there was no ritual accusations made against Frank. This was just a straight out rape and murder. Well, of course, that wasn't the case with. Was there accusations of ritual stuff with Frank?

No, there wasn't. But what I will say in social needs to defense here is that he may get a couple things wrong, but he's getting them wrong in the direction of assuming the best intentions. If he was getting it wrong by saying, oh, this, you know, everyone knew the Jews abandoned him because they knew he was, because they knew he was guilty, yada, yada. If he went in that direction, you could say that there's a bias here. But it seems like either social needs and just reading what is, his sources on this are at the time he's writing it, are probably just mainstream sources.

So, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean, he's basically parroting the mainstream line here that most, Jews who would actually listen to this and read this would be like, yeah, that's exactly what happened. Yeah, he was, the charges were uncertain. A lynch mob took care of him. So it's not like he's just, he's giving you what the mainstream says, which is completely untrue.

And honestly, the best, the best investigation into this with, it's a book with diagrams and court documents and everything into this was put out by the. the nation of Islam. Oh, again. Okay. Yeah. So, all right. Moving on, because we're almost done with this chapter. Well, because there was a black guy involved, I guess. So that was their excuse to talk about it. Because of the, you know, the Patsy that they pretended did it. Okay. Yes. Yeah. All right. There is an epilogue in the Beelis case. Threatened with revenge by extreme right-wing

groups. Beelis left Russia and went to Palestine with his family. that's a precursor to what we see today when one of them rapes or murders someone or commits commits espionage and just runs to Israel because they won't extradite. Yeah, so to speak. Yeah. In 1920, he moved to the United States. He died of natural causes at the age of 60 in the vicinity of New York. Justice Minister

Schlegglo Wow, I can't pronounce that According to some sources He had given instructions for the case To be elucidated as a ritual murder Was shot by the Bolsheviks Schleglovvv I think I should try to pronounce his name

Considering he was a martyr In 1919, the trial of Vera Sheberiak took place It did not proceed according to the aboard procedures of czarism, no question of popular jury, and lasted only about 40 minutes in the premises of the Checa of Kiev. A member of the latter who was arrested in the same year by the whites noted in his testimony that Vera Cheveriak was interrogated exclusively by Jewish Czechists, beginning with Soren, the head of the Blumstein Cheka. Commander Fairman

subjected her to humiliating treatment, ripped off her clothes, and struck her with a barrel of his revolver. She said, you can do whatever you want to me, but what I said, I will not come back on, I will not come back on it. What I said at the bail at the bailist trial, nobody pushed me to say it. Nobody bribed me. She was shot on the spot. You know, I wonder if that was, you know, I can't imagine the pain she was in.

And, you know, they don't tear her clothes off just a slapper. There clearly is that there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, missing here where she was sexually assaulted. But, you know, being shot, she may have been, that may have been a relief for her to some extent. They can't imagine her life after losing, what, now three children and being loathed by the Jews. She, you know, her life had to have been just absolutely, absolute misery from Tom to Barth. Air Grid, Operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up. the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and

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It was something they did all the time. It was pretty common. In 1919, Vipper, now a Soviet official, was discovered in Kaluga and tried by the... Moscow Revolutionary Tribunal. The Bolshevik prosecutor Kralinko pronounced the following words, whereas he presents a real danger to the Republic that there be one Vipper less among us. This macab joke suggested by R. Vipper, a professor of medieval history, was still alive. However, the tribunal merely sent Vipper to a concentration camp until the communist regime

by definitively consolidated. it. After that, we lose his track. Baylis was acquitted. I'm sorry, go ahead. This is a, oh, okay. Okay, go ahead. Okay, I didn't realize we're at the end. Go ahead. Bellis was acquitted by peasants. Those Ukrainian peasants accused of having participated in the pogroms against the Jews at the turn of the century and who were soon to know the

collectivization and organized famine of 1932 to 1933. A famine that journalists have ignored and that has not been included in the liabilities of this regime. Here is yet another of the footsteps of history, of these footsteps of history. Can you imagine being, you know, a tenured American university professor who pretends to specialize in this stuff? He is not permitted to mention any of this. He has to simply spout, and I guess he could rationalize it one way or the other. I suppose younger ones don't know any better because every other.

everything is censored now. But these people simply have to lie. And even then, they may not be sufficiently phylo-Semitic enough, especially on something like this. That's, you know, thanks to our listeners, my listeners, my readers, I don't have to live this kind of a life. I don't have to live in fear like these people do. Um, these two cases, well, of course, Andre and And then of course, the Leo Frank case, if you ever want to argue about the nature of Jewish control and the sheer power that no other group of people have ever done this. If you were an Arab or if you were a German or if you were an Armenian or if you were a poll in either case or any other group, you wouldn't have this kind of response. There is one group of people that do this. and these are slam dunk arguments when it comes to Jewish control and Jewish domination

to the point where Western governments were doing their bidding. Also, you know, that the Soviet Union was a Jewish enterprise, especially at this early stage. They must have, in terms of Vipar, he must have, you know, because he didn't have like background checks, especially back then in 1919, and so much had been destroyed. You know, he was working for the Soviet government in some, capacity.

And eventually someone said, oh, isn't he the guy in the, in the Belisca? But, you know, but I heard they merely sent it to a concentration camp. Of course, the Soviet concentration camps from the second they took over in, in late 1917. I hate it when people say that this is just a Stalinist thing.

It was created from the nanosecond they took over all the way up, and really only Gorbachev dismantled them. but yet, of course, none of these were trials at all. The trial that Bealus got was far superior to anything that anyone else got, especially his poor mother. But, you know, this will, this, there's no way you could write this stuff. I'm a little disappointed in Sultanateen, I have to say, because there was a lot of evidence against Bayliss that he doesn't mention,

you know he's pretty good on this he clearly so's doubt in the mind of the reader but there was a lot that i've mentioned that he he didn't and i'm glad i was able to will go back to my paper on that i will publish it in a few days i just have to clean it up there's some translation stuff that i have to do and take it i have a bunch of sources oh and don't forget also the provisional government looked into this case. There's a substantial literature there where they had to come to the conclusion that despite everything, they couldn't really refute the prosecution.

Of course, they didn't come out and say he was a ritual murderer. But clearly, you know, they couldn't refute what the prosecution was saying. And again, before we go, I want to repeat, the defense brought up the ritual part of this. The Jews brought up the ritual part of this. And because they brought it up, it created this furor, this tremendous outrage. And it was a hung jury.

It wasn't like it was unanimous. It would have in the U.S. But in all of this, we have to remember this poor kid who would have been a credit to Russia, was tortured to death by these Jews, some God-forsaken reason. And the only thing Jews cared about, They made it all about themselves. That's this group of people in a nutshell. All right.

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