The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 52

Episode Date: July 12, 2025

53 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson c...ontinue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonDr. Johnson's Pogroms ArticleThe Orthodox Nationalist: Karl Marx “On the Jewish Question” (1844)Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:24 The Pekingona Show.com. Everything's there. I want to welcome everyone back to part 52 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. Dr. Jay, how are you doing today? Well, I'm about 90% over. I think it's COVID my third time around. It has to be. It feels the exact same way, just much less severe.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You know, where I can't concentrate for as long. But I think I'm about 90% there. I haven't skipped anything. I haven't missed anything. I fought through it. I guess my body's used to it by now. But, but,
Starting point is 00:04:06 but I'm I'm back to work like normal I think today you know I see at 90% is about where I am so it sucks it was about about a week and a half yeah I get sick I get very frustrated with it yeah glad to have you back even at 90% they're you're better than most people at 50% you're better than most people at 100%. Yeah, it's like Judge Judy used to say, you know, on my worst day, I'm better than you on your best day. On that note, we will continue. But the very next day, it was a whirlwind, as if all the newspapers had waited for that. From the liberal Hacha Gazeta, is this the right moment to talk about this?
Starting point is 00:04:59 And the right-wing newspaper Nouveauvremia to the organ of the Democratic Democratic Constitutional Party wretch where Milikov could not help exclaiming Jabotinsky has succeeded in breaking the wall of silence and all the frightening and threatening things that the progressive press and the intelligentsy have sought to hide from the Jews now appear in their true dimension but later on argumentative and cold as usual Milikov goes on to the verdict it begins with an important warning Where does it lead? Who benefits from it? The national face, which, moreover, we must not hide, is a step toward the worst of fanaticism. Thus, the national face must be hidden. Thus, the slippery slope of aesthetic nationalism will precipitate the intelligentsia towards its degeneration, towards a true tribal chauvinism engendered in the putrid atmosphere of the reaction reigning over today's society. He's saying this to Jews.
Starting point is 00:06:04 He's saying this to the most tribal and chauvinistic group of people on the planet. You know, there's got to be the cognitive dissonance with these writers, either then or now. It's got to be extraordinary. How much of this was actually believed. But, you know, what self-interest certainly allows you to rationalize a whole lot. But cognitive dissonance is no way to live. But P.B. Struve, with an almost juvenile agility in spite of his 40 years, retaliates as soon as March 12th in the columns of the slovo to the professorial speech of Milikov.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And above all, to the sleight of hand, where does it lead? Who benefits from it? Who will draw the chestnuts from the fire? This is how people will be silenced, whatever they say. for 100 years or more. This is a falsifying process that denotes a total inability to understand that a speech
Starting point is 00:07:06 can be honest and have weight in itself. Our point of view is not refuted on the merits, but confronted on the polemic mode to a projection. Where does it lead? A few days later, he wrote again in the Slovo, quote, it is an old process
Starting point is 00:07:22 to discredit both an idea that does not share and the one who formulates it, insinuating perfidiously that the people of the Nouvelo Vremia or Ruskoi Namia will find it quite to their liking. This procedure is, in our opinion, utterly unworthy of progressive press. Then as to the substance, national questions are nowadays associated with powerful, sometimes violent feelings, to the extent that they express in everyone the consciousness of their national identity,
Starting point is 00:07:56 these feelings are fully legitimate, and to stifle them is a great villainy. That is it. If they are repressed, they will reappear in a denatured form. As for this, asemitism, which would be the worst thing, it is in fact a much more favorable ground for a legal solution of the Jewish question than the endless struggle between anti-Semitism and phylo-Semitism. There is no non-Russian nationality that needs. All Russians to love it without reservation, even less that they pretend to love it. In truth, asemitism, combined with a clear and lucive conception of certain moral and political principles and certain political constraints, is much more necessary and useful to our Jewish compatriots
Starting point is 00:08:43 than a sentimental and soft phylo-Semitism, especially if this one is simulated. And it is good that the Jews see the national face of Russian constitutionalism in democratic society. and it is of no use to them to speak under the delusion that this face belongs only to anti-Semitic fanaticism. This is not the head of the Medusa, but the honest and human face of the Russian nation, without which the Russian state would not stand up. And again, these lines in Slovo's editorial team, harmony implies recognition and respect for all the specificities of each nationality. That's a lot of verbiage to say very little. I'm not 100% sure what he's what he's trying to say here. This is a cadet newspaper, so they're not trying to be objective.
Starting point is 00:09:35 We talked about asemitism the last time, but the last thing that you can call any of the constitutional Democrats or cadets, or they had a bunch of different nicknames is national. I guess it was pretty much normal at the time, you know, compared to what we have today. and by Russian nation, Russian state, I'm not sure, you know, from a fairly liberal writer, what they're talking about. These are you talking about the monarchy? You know, yeah, you know, harmony implies recognition, you know, all that. You know, we hear that every day.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But this was a whole lot of verbiage. And maybe it's just a translation. But I'm not 100% sure what he's going for here. Heated debates continued in the newspapers. Within a few days, a whole literature was formed on the subject. We assisted in the progressive press to something unthinkable even a short time ago. There is a debate on the question of great Russian nationalism. But the discussion only reached this level in the Slovo.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The other papers concentrated on the question of attractions and repulsions. The intelligentsia turned its anger towards its hero of the day before. Jabotinsky also gave voice and even twice. Quote, The bear came out of his lair, he lashed out, addressed to P. Struv, a man who was, however, so calm and well balanced. Jabotinsky, on the other hand, felt offended. He described his article as well as that of Milikov as a famous batch. Their languorous declamation is impregnated with hypocrisy and sincerity,
Starting point is 00:11:21 cowardice and opportunism, which is why it is so incorrigibly worthless. And to ironize in quoting Milikov, thus, the holy and pure Russian intelligency of old felt feelings of repulsion at the encounter of the Jews. Bizarre, no? He criticized the holy and pure climate of this marvelous country in the zoological species of Yorthus Judaophagus intellectualis. The conciliatory Winnever also took for his rank the Jewish footmen of the Russian palace. Jabotinsky fulminated at the idea that the Jews should wait until was resolved the central political problem, i.e. the Tsar's deposition.
Starting point is 00:12:05 We thank you for having such a flattering opinion of our dispositions behave like a dog with his master, on the celebrity of faithful Israel. He even concluded by stating that never before the exploitation of a people by any had ever been revealed, dealed with such ingenuous cynicism. It must be admitted that this excessive virulence hardly contributed to the victory of his cause. Moreover, the near future was going to show that it was precisely the deposition of the Tsar, which would open the Jews to even more possibilities than they sought to obtain and cut the grass under the foot of Zionism in Russia, so much and so well that Jabotinsky was also deceived on the merits.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You know, he was, of course, you know, one of the early Zionists, you know, one of the early Zionist leaders, right? Violent man, violent temper. You know, he should be more worried about figuring out a way to get to the Middle East or Madagascar or wherever he wanted to go, rather than worry about Russia. In fact, the whole point of Zionism here seems to be, let's destroy the, you know, ultimate goy, the czar, and then maybe we'll have an easier time leaving. You know, if they want to leave the country, what do they care? You know, there's this internally, internal hatred that they can't get away from.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That the fact that he would actually utter the phrase exploitation of a people by another, he knows his nation lives that way. You know, if you had no presuppositions whatsoever, and you came across, you live close to a Jewish community. No presuppositions. You would end up being very hostile to them. It's only propaganda and lies and storytelling that forces that, again, a more cognitive dissonance. I'm not really seeing what I'm seeing.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Jabotinsky is an extremely violent individual. I mean, the creation of the state of Israel, as fake as it is, required tremendous violence. He is a Machiavellian. But he just, I don't know if this is just all projection, or, you know, you would figure with all their money and wealth,
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Starting point is 00:16:17 Ask in store for details. Much later. And with the retreat of time, another witness to that era, then a member of the Bund, recalled that in the years 1907 through 1914, some liberal intellectuals were affected by the epidemic, if not of open anti-Semitism, at least a-Semitism that struck Russia then. On the other hand, having gotten over the extremist tendencies that had arisen during the first Russian revolution, they were tempted to hold the Jews accountable whose participation in the revolution had been blatant. In the years leading up to the war, the rise of Russian nationalism was present in certain circles where, at first sight, the Jewish problem was only a short time before perceived as a Russian problem.
Starting point is 00:17:03 This is why, or I shouldn't say this is not the only reason, but one of the reasons why Bolivism was a purely totalitarian ideology. It was so top-heavy with Jews. They knew they were unpopular. They knew that they resonated with only a handful of people. they knew that they had been lying about their agenda up until this point anyway. They knew how Jewish this movement was and how alien it was to your typical Russian. And this is why they had to have the anti-Semitism laws and totally controlled press and everything else. And it's true. I mean, even during World War I, you had an economy that was growing.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The war wasn't going badly. for Russia at the time, especially when Nicholas took over personally. You had a surge of patriotic spirit, which, of course, Jews can't handle. Their utter enemy is the nationalism, a group of people in which they live, especially, especially Russia. And, you know, the Boone, of course, was a Jewish organization, but it's out of that organization that the other extreme left parties came from. So, yeah, Jews being held accountable, that was the worst possible thing that they could hear.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I will say this. They keep mentioning Asemitism. Even people who don't understand the Jewish question or have read Jewish history like I have, after October 7th, they recognize that these Jews that were absolutely losing their minds. on social media, they were perfectly fine if you were 100% with them or 100% against them. But if you were neutral to it, that upset them more than anything. What do you mean? Neutral to what? Neutral to what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like if you, like on October 7th. Yeah. It's like, oh, if you were just like, well, I mean, that's over there. That's not my problem. Why does this have anything to do with me? Right, right. I see what you mean. Okay. They were more hostile to you if you took to people who took that attitude than they were to people who are like, well, you asked for this. You know, what do you expect after 75 years? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:31 In 1912, Jabotinsky himself, this time in a more balanced tone, reported this judicious observation of a prominent Jewish journalist. As soon as the Jews are interested in some cultural activity, immediately the latter becomes foreign to the Russian public, who is no longer attracted to it. a kind of invisible rejection. It is true that an international demarcation cannot be avoided. It will be necessary to organize life in Russia without external additions, which in so large a quantity perhaps cannot be tolerated by the Russians. To consider all that has been presented above,
Starting point is 00:20:08 the most accurate conclusion is to say that within the Russian intelligentsia we're developing simultaneously, as history offers many examples, two processes that, with regard to the Jewish problem, were distinguished by a question of temperament, not by a degree of sympathy. But the one represented by Struve was too weak, uncertain, and was stifled, whilst the one who was trumpeted with his phylo-Semitism in the collection of shield enjoyed a wide publicity and prevailed among public opinion. There is only to regret that Javitinsky did not recognize Struve's point of view as its fair value.
Starting point is 00:20:48 As for the 1909 debate in the Slovo columns, it was not liable. limited to the Jewish question, but turned into a discussion of Russian national consciousness, which, after the 80 years of silence that followed, remains today still vivacious and instructive. P. Struve wrote, just as we must not russify those who do not want it, so we must not dissolve ourselves in Russian multinationalism. V. Golubov protested against the monopolization of patriotism and nationalism by reactionary groups. We have lost sight of the fact that the victories won by the Japanese have had a disastrous effect on the popular conscience and national sentiment. Our defeat not only humiliated our bureaucrats,
Starting point is 00:21:33 as public opinion hoped, but indirectly the nation as well. Oh no, not indirectly, not indirectly, quite directly. Russian nationality has vanished. Nor is it a joke that the flourishing of the word Russian itself, which had been transformed into authentically Russian. The progressive intelligentsia has let these two notions go, abandoning them to the people of the right. Patriotism, we could only conceive in its quotation marks, but we must compete with reactionary patriotism with a popular patriotism. We are frozen in our refusal of the patriotism of the black hundreds, and if we have opposed something of it, it is not another conception of patriotism, but of universal ideals. And yet, all our cosmopolitanism has not allowed us
Starting point is 00:22:24 until today to fraternize with the Polish society. I think this is an early conception of unconscious racism. I think one possible reason for that is that they don't necessarily speak Polish or that they've been enemies for a very long time. What do they care? When? or the other. Nationalism as a cultural and ethnic matter is totally incompatible with liberalism. It's incompatible with, you know, things like the untrammeled free market or or any typical libertarian point of view. It's a communal idealistic way of thinking. The concept of this Soviet patriotism, which developed years after Stalin, which is still, you know, unfortunately my big disagreement with Putin
Starting point is 00:23:19 in his lionization of the Second World War, which is popular there. I mean, I get why he does it, but not a huge fan of it. You have to be very careful in how any of these people are defining the term. We're nationalists, generally speaking, ethnic and religious in my case
Starting point is 00:23:44 and there can't be anything. I mean, this is a communal ideology. It's not an individualistic one, therefore, it can't be a liberal one. It's that simple. A. Pagodin was able to say that after V. Soloviov's violent indictment of the Danylovsky book, Russia and Europe, after Gradovsky's articles were the first manifestations
Starting point is 00:24:08 of this consciousness, which, like the instinct of self-preservation, awakens among the people when danger threatens them. Coincidentally, at the very moment when this polemic took place, Russia had to endure its national humiliation. It was forced to recognize with pitiable resignation, the annexation by Austria of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was equivalent to a diplomatic Su-Sina. Fatality leads us to raise this question, which was formerly entirely foreign to the Russian intelligentsia,
Starting point is 00:24:43 but which life itself imposes on us with a brutality that forbids all evasion. In conclusion, the Slova wrote... Well, I don't know. They're spelling it. It's the Tushina, meaning that the naval battle, which the Russian was a surprise attack. Russians didn't lose it for a whole bunch of reasons. I think he's exaggerating. when he's talking about that that was identical to Bosnia or to Govina, which, I guess, ultimately came out of the Treaty of Berlin and it progressed from there.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That's a wild exaggeration. You know, the only reason that the Turkish Empire existed at the time was because of the West, especially the British. The British kept it alive for the repayment of debt. they took over the finance department and everything else. But I would recommend Russia and Europe by Mikhail Danylowski and as well as Leontyev, a student, and I have many papers on those floating around. They're excellent.
Starting point is 00:25:58 They're excellent works. But to consider the Bosnian case to be a national humiliation like a minister, military defeat. Well, remember, the Russian-Japanese War, the Japanese didn't get very much. Their goals were not achieved during that war. And losses were about the same.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And as I said before, in Japan, it was seen as a defeat for the Japanese. One of the general even committed suicide. You know, ritual suicide, because he failed completely. It's just how the liberal press was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:26:38 that made this invention of this awful defeat same thing for crimea um there were defeats but it wasn't a defeat over you know uh in total um but again liberals are about the last people on the planet that should be talking about national identity since they rejected um out of hand you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you even before you Drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range. For Mentor, Leon and Terramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2,000 euro. Search Coopera and discover our latest offers. Coopera, design that moves. Finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited, subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply. Volkswagen
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Starting point is 00:28:28 Like up to 70 euro off one pair of designer glasses. Offer ends on 7th of December 2025. Conditions apply. Ask in store for details. In conclusion, the Slovo wrote, a fortuitous incident triggered quite a journalistic storm. This means that Russian society needs national awareness. In the past, it had turned away not only from a false anti-national policy, but also from genuine nationalism without which a policy cannot really be
Starting point is 00:28:56 built. A people capable of creation cannot but have its own face, meaning was certainly a nationalist. A constructive nationalist possessing the sense of the state is peculiar to living nations, and that is what we need now. Just as 300 years ago, history tells us to reply, to say, in the dark hours of trial, if we have the right, like any people worthy of the name, to exist by ourselves. I remember, and within the empire itself, you take Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians, was a huge majority of the country. Others, especially the Christians, like Armenia and Georgia,
Starting point is 00:29:39 asked to be a part of the empire because they're surrounded by Islamic enemies. Many others, many other tribes, were fiercely loyal throughout, even during the Russian Civil War. So, you know, there was no attempt to force orthodoxy on them or anything else. but yes there is a definite distinction between the ethno nation
Starting point is 00:30:07 which is a result of all the sufferings and struggles of a people just like a family you know that creates this identity creates traditions you know it's ways of survival mechanisms of survival which what tradition is and the state that it may not even be politicized when it's politicized of course in Russia it created the monarchy you know for something that large for something surrounded by enemies. And it was a national monarchy despite the fact that not every single human being in the empire was a Slav. And yet, even if apparently the year 1909 was rather peaceful, one felt that the storm was in the air. However, certain things were not lost sight of M. Slavinsky.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Attempts to russify or, more exactly, to impose the Russian-Russian model on Russia, have had a disastrous effect on living national peculiarities, not only of all the non-sovereign peoples of the empire, but also and above all of the people of Great Russia. The cultural forces of the people of Great Russia proved insufficient for this. For the nationality of Great Russia, only the development of the interior, a normal circulation of blood, is good. Alas, even today, the lesson has not been assimilated. Necessary is a struggle against physical. theological nationalism when a stronger people tries to impose on others who are less so a way of life that is foreign to them. But an empire as this could not have been constituted solely by physical
Starting point is 00:31:45 force. There was also a moral force. And if we possess this force, then the equality of rights of other peoples, Jews as well as Poles, do not threaten us in any way. Well, that's an incredibly stupid statement. Remember, this is going on in the cadet press, the liberal press. You can't equate Jews and polls here. One's a normal group of people, the others that have a normal group of people. Russification is largely a myth. I think it happened at the local level, but certainly not from Petersburg.
Starting point is 00:32:19 That served no one's interest. It was stupid. There were attacks on Ukrainian separatism, certainly. that's not the same thing as Russification. This is not a country. This is an empire. So the political system is going to be very different. But you can't just throw, this is almost like an Asimitism. You can't just throw Jews and Poles like they're equivalent together, you know, as an afterthought like they're doing here.
Starting point is 00:32:48 We know what the equality and rights of the Jews would be. They would be far worse than the situation was at the time. there's a pure Jewish oligarchy they would have repealed all the rights of peasants to hold their land the reason why they had the communes was so that no one could take them
Starting point is 00:33:08 they're inalienable it's one of the great things about feudalism in general even though it wasn't futile it's the only thing the peasants care about Jews are not the same as everybody else no one's talking about Armenians or Georgians
Starting point is 00:33:25 here. Jews are a completely separate category, and as we've been talking about from the beginning, don't function like any normal group of people. In the 19th century already, an a fortiori at the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian intelligentsia felt that it was at a high level of global consciousness, universality, cosmopolitanism, or internationality. At the time, little difference was made between all these notions. In many fields, it had almost entirely denied what was Russian national. What was Russian? National. From the top of the tribune of the Duma, one practiced at the pun, Patriot, Escariat. As for the Jewish intelligentsia, it did not deny its national identity. Even the most extreme of Jewish socialists struggle to reconcile their ideology with national
Starting point is 00:34:15 sentiment. At the same time, there was no voice among the Jews from Dubnov to to Jabotinsky, passing by Winnever, to say that the Russian intelligentsia, who supported their persecuted brothers with all their souls might not give up on his own national feeling. Equity would have required it, but no one perceived this disparity. Under the notion of equality of rights, the Jew understood something more. Thus, the Russian intelligentsia solitary took the road to the future. I don't think there was any struggle of Jewish socialists to reconcile anything. I think it was perfectly normal. It was a Tikun Olam. I think it just
Starting point is 00:34:58 made perfect sense to them. They were, I assume they're talking about Jewish national sentiment. Not Russian. That wouldn't even be a question here. I assume they mean Jewish nationalism. Moses has took care of that problem long ago.
Starting point is 00:35:16 There was no doubt. You could even observe some of the holidays and be a total atheist and materialist, as most of the Jews were. There was absolutely no, no, um, no struggle there. The Jewish intelligence, you had no time that it deny its, it's, uh, it's national identity. Um, however, to be a Russian is to be Orthodox. That's a, you know, you can't talk about almost everything in Russian culture, uh, derives from, from the church, uh, and so it's on to the language and the cuisine and everything
Starting point is 00:35:52 else, even the calendar, there's no getting out of that. There is no Russian culture outside of Orthodoxy. But with the Jews, it was no problem. The way when they, in this era, thanks to people like Marx and Moses has, being a Jew and being an extreme socialist made perfect sense. There was no struggle there. But they wanted everyone else to deny who they were. Now, it is true that Lenin, like, you know, promoted Ukrainian nationalism for a while, for a while like the U.S. does now because it hurt Russia.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Russia was always exploited during the existence of the Soviet Union. Russian nationalism was the only one that was consistently persecuted, even in their own country. That's why Soviet Russia doesn't make any sense at all. And the only prison of nations was actually the USSR. The outside republics along the fringes, Sometimes they were left alone, you know, like the Armenians who did very well. So, but at no time, at no time did the Jews ever dream of denying anything Jewish about them
Starting point is 00:37:09 because it was so fluid to begin with. And I think after the Belize case, after the so-called pogroms and everything else we've been talking about the last few weeks, this is what held them together. This is what held them together. That's what being a Jew was. Therefore, being a Russian liberal, it is to deny Russian identity entirely, which is why this whole debate is so stupid.
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Starting point is 00:39:36 The idea we had of our perspectives, of our interests, the impetus we gave to the search for solutions to our problems, all this, we incorporated into the idea that they were getting of it themselves. We have adopted their version of our history and how to get out of it. Understanding this is much more important than calculating the percentage of Jews who tried to destabilize Russia, all of whom we did, who made the revolution or participated in Bolshevik power. I think we can go back to Gabriel D'Isovan's first commission under Emperor Paul and then very early years of Emperor Alexander I, where, I mean, he had no presuppositions.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He's one of these guys who, if anything, may have been a little phylo-Semitic and was sent, if you remember, was sent to Belarus, heavy Jewish areas like Go Mel, to try to figure out why do the peasants hate these people? Why is there so much violence? And he found out. He was barely out of his carriage, and he saw it. He saw the manipulation, the hatred of these peasants, the manipulation of alcohol monopoly. The fact that they were plugged into this huge international credit agency, really, this huge bank.
Starting point is 00:41:00 They always had access to it, the underselling their dishonesty, things that the Russian merchants didn't do. I mean, you had about a 50-50 split at this point with. Russian versus Jewish merchants, if that. Debt means control. Debt means that you default, land or homes, go to you. This is how they ended up controlling huge chunks of territory, largely through manipulative means. And as much money as the Jewish merchants were getting from at that time,
Starting point is 00:41:37 the trade in grain, the peasants were not getting any benefit. And they dare talk about exploitation. Nothing has changed up into this point. They may have changed the language. Of course, the Kahul system was gone. A handful more spoke Russian for the first time. They took liberalism and leftism in general as their basic core vehicle, but it's just a vehicle. That's the only thing that changed.
Starting point is 00:42:09 As far as Jewish behavior was concerned, I mean, even mainstream writers. And I was shocked to see this when we talked about Kim Il-Nitsky many, I don't know, months ago, last year, I think, the Jews in the Polish Empire. You even have mainstream historians who can't get out of the fact that Jews were awful in their behavior. They were so manipulative to a group of people
Starting point is 00:42:34 who really weren't aware of what was happening. Their moral code was completely different. and they took advantage of that. Huge amounts, huge amounts of land they controlled through usury and all the different methods, all the different tricks that they used. Nothing really has changed at this point. The ideology, everything else is just a vehicle.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I think Marxism was their ultimate vehicle because it permitted the complete total ownership and control of the economy from one spot. Central planning just meant you owned, the party owned everything. The party owned everything. You distribute whatever it wanted to. It had nothing to do with labor. Had nothing to do with labor.
Starting point is 00:43:23 The proletariat, we talked about why they were chosen as a group. Have nothing to do with their well-being. For the most part, the proletariat disliked the Jewish mind, disliked the merchants. It wasn't like he was in the city voluntarily. and certainly in the countryside they despised the city so this is how they had to function and by this time
Starting point is 00:43:50 it just became you know you still had a fairly healthy society here compared to ours it was a very healthy society and say 1911 1912 it was very healthy you even had plenty of of Russian liberals who knew deep down what the Jews really were but of course I had a lot of money they were
Starting point is 00:44:08 promoting liberal journals and liberal journalists. No different than today. Huge amounts of money to revolutionary groups from Jews, even outside of the country, especially from Britain. We talked about the Rothschild family here. But remember, liberalism, Marxism, these are various vehicles that the Jews used. And it didn't matter whether you were so-called religious, Zionist, socialists, You could all be on the same side.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Their press created a whole mythos about Russian world. That these are just incorrigibly evil people. They'll accuse us of crazy crimes like ritual murder or kill us for no reason except that they're jealous about how well we're doing. Equal rights would just mean that they could completely dominate the country. There has to be limits on them.
Starting point is 00:45:05 because they're not, it's like, it's like trying to say equal rights with the mafia. You can't do that. Most people don't think like those guys do. And I said from the very beginning, the Jews in Russia
Starting point is 00:45:18 acted far more like a criminal syndicate than they did like a normal ethnic group. And no other ethnic group had to deal with this kind of thing, which is more evidence to that end. They functioned like a criminal syndicate. There was always a handful of, of legitimate conversions to orthodoxy.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Maybe we've more than a handful. But the only thing that Jews care about is cohesion. We know that. And we should actually take lessons from that. Numbers don't matter. Majorities don't make history. Fanatical, determined minorities do. That's what changes history.
Starting point is 00:46:00 The masses, if you want to call them that, are usually inert. You know, they'll go along with whatever. But as Goumalov called it, the passionaries, this handful of fanatics, that's what makes history. And so we should remember that. Numbers don't really matter. You know, things can change very quickly. You had only one person.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I might be wrong. St. John of Cronstadt had predicted. the Soviet Union or something very much like it. There may have been a few others. Maybe just asking years ago, sort of indirectly, but no one knew what was coming. No one knew what these people were going to do
Starting point is 00:46:46 when they took power. And, of course, today we know. But this was a stupid debate from these people, people who were not really, you know, Russian deep down. I have no Russian ethnicity in me whatsoever, but I'm far more Russian than these people. I'm certainly more Orthodox than these people. They were trying to destabilize, they were trying to destroy the monarchy. They were trying to make Russia just like any other
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Starting point is 00:49:16 disciples of Bakunin and Prudon? Um, oh, I mean, anarchists. Who was an anarchist at the time? I mean, even Slovia have had certain elements like that, uh, in him. You still had plenty of Slavophiles. You know, but remember Pruthon's central idea centered around the family. I guess anarchists don't read. The family was central. Pruton despised the Jews because of their war against the, you know, he was, of course, a Frenchman. You know, people following, you know, Slovia would be a pretty decent example, I guess.
Starting point is 00:49:59 He was a Hegelian of sorts. But once the once instability got out of control, it was really hard to get away from the necessity of the state. The Slavophiles had their height. Subboranos had their height in in 1840s to the 1860s. But that was a bit before terrorism took over. So, you know, the Silver Age poets even
Starting point is 00:50:37 Bele and Bloch there were certain healthy elements there they even use the words of Bournos sometimes in their writing wasn't always good but there were certainly
Starting point is 00:50:49 healthy elements in it I spent a huge amount of time many years ago on the silver so-called silver age in Russian literature at the turn of the century but at this point although that was
Starting point is 00:51:05 then of course you had the old believers now you had enough many of the old believers did want a republic which was incredibly stupid and short-sighted i'm not saying all of them did but i've read a lot of their documents at the time uh even up until now i have a book out on them and you figured they would be the best in that regard they still hold to the idea of the of the spiritual community um and a great new martyr um Andrew of I can't think of it in South Russia. Not Omsk. I can't think of his name off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He was a bishop in the Russian church, was also an old believer. I've done much on him years ago. I can't think of his name. He was Archbishop in Uhtk. I can't think of it. I haven't thought about him for a while, but there were a number of people who realized this was a spiritual ideal, but the timing was a different matter. You can't talk about, you know, this kind of spiritual anarchism when you're at war, even internally.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Udemoski, that's it, Andrew Udemoski. He's a great writer. He probably would be your best example. He was a semi-old believer, semi-official, who is very interesting to read. I don't know how much of this stuff exists in English. He tries to combine the two. And he says, he says, so much of these problems
Starting point is 00:53:06 comes from the old believer'sism comes from what Peter did in the beginning of the 18th century which is connected to that that you had two you know senses of Russian identity that were both considered right wing at the time you know you had the Slavophiles and you had Nicholas
Starting point is 00:53:21 the first Nicholas the second tried to synthesize them both but as we know he was surrounded by by traitors who forced them out and who forged a abdication. So you had many in the church who were writing this way.
Starting point is 00:53:47 St. Andrew would be your best bet. He was someone of a semi-anarchist. There was always an anarchist vision in the old believers. But they also, some of them were realists too, depending on how extreme they were. And especially since, you know, Andrew was within the, sort of within the official church while being an old believer, of course, that whole thing had been taken care of,
Starting point is 00:54:15 the Edinaveri and all that. I tried to synthesize it. It didn't work that well, but it did show the old believers were still part of the official church to some extent, a handful of them anyway. You even had in the Russian Orthodox Church outside of Russia in America
Starting point is 00:54:29 for a while, up in Erie. So that vision, was around. And don't forget the Cossacks. Deep down, the Cossack military circle was, as they may have accepted the monarchy, but they were autonomous, and they believed in their own autonomy and their own independence more than anything else. It does mean they rejected the monarchy, but they wanted to do their own thing within that context. And a huge number of the Cossacks ended up serving.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Zara Nicholas, most of them were totally at war with the Bolsheviks during the Russian Civil War, although many of them were also very short-sighted. They really only cared about their own, you know, sectional independence, not realizing this is a huge nationwide war that's going to eventually destroy you. I've been dealing with this for a very long time. The old Cossack-Kroog idea is still around. So there were, there were, semi- anarchist ideas there too.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So, you know, I think there were a lot in the Silver Age, just were anarchistic by their, by the very existence. But some of them were, some of them were Nietzschean, you know, I can't help it, though, you know, as much as I, you know, I like reading them as crazy as they were. at least most of them were non-nominalists. They were platonists. In fact, symbolism couldn't be anything other than platonic. So it was still very popular. But wasn't popular. Was this kind of garbage?
Starting point is 00:56:14 But wasn't popular? Was this Jewish domination of society through a central planning board? They never talked about it until that had actually happened. Collectivization? Well, that had been discussed beforehand, but only secretly. If they said it openly, there was, you know, minuscule support for them to begin with. If they had said that openly, it would have been awful. And what they would have done to the church, of course, they weren't talking about that either.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So that's why, as I said before, once they took over, they needed to destroy. They couldn't just neutralize. They had to destroy their opposition and either exile them or kill them or send them in the prison, which is what Bolshevism was throughout months of its existence. I would encourage people who are listening to go to Radio Albion and the episode that Dr. Johnson dropped on June 4th of this year, title Carl Marx on the Jewish question. You're going to get a lot out of that, and if you understand exactly the information that's in there, you're going to listen to it more than once. because it's really important to not only see how the Jewish question was approached from people who would be on the historic right, but this covers how people on the historic left and even the radical left approach the Jewish question.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I know that was, I've been getting a lot of emails and stuff about that. I don't know why it took me so long to get into it. I've been reading Karl Marx's early stuff since college, and the Udayan Fragha is right in there. There's a few other things. He's responding to somebody, so I talked about that person, too. It's not very long, but my God, you don't expect this coming from Karl Marx. They just kind of pretend it didn't happen. Marxists just think it was as capital and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:58:16 They just kind of pretend that he never said any of that stuff. but he wasn't shy. He knew exactly what the concept of the Jews was at the time and that the Christians were just going to be turned into the same thing. Because remember, you have to have capitalism before socialism. So you have to Judaize everybody before a revolution can occur. Russia was probably a bad example of that. But when everyone is out for money, when everyone's out for profit,
Starting point is 00:58:49 When everyone doesn't really care about God anymore, they're Judaized. They become, you know, Calvinist, as Judaized as you can get, let alone the rule of Freemasons over Western and Eastern societies. Yes, I'm very proud of that. I'm very happy with it. I do recommend you, you listen to it. Yeah, the quote, there's a quote on that Prudon has that I think most people, who would promote Prudone don't want you to hear.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Prudone, just go listen to that episode. You're going to want to listen to it more than ones you might even want to take some notes because, yeah, it wasn't only people on the historic right, the people who, the historic traditionalists, the Orthodox, Catholics. No, when it came time for revolution from the left, they understood. They understood
Starting point is 00:59:58 the role. So, yeah. All right, I'm going to encourage everyone to go and go to the show notes and go to the comments in the videos. And please donate to Dr. Johnson. Keep him working. He's working on two books right now. At least. At least two books. So I don't even know. I couldn't name them more right now. I've been out of it for the last week. Yeah, it's true. Go keep him unemployed so that he can finish us up and
Starting point is 01:00:38 keep doing what we're doing together. So thank you, Dr. Johnson, and I'll see in a couple days. All right, man. I appreciate it. Bye-bye.

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