The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 65

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

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I'm doing okay. I am very close to finally releasing my book on the Ukraine War. I have, you know, the biggest pain was switching all the hot links to actual hard copy, in my case, footnotes, which I didn't want to do. It was such a pain to do it, but I did it. And that's completed. I did the acknowledgements. I just had to go one run through the whole thing, and then it's published. And I will let everyone know when that happens.

And I have no doubt you'll have a link to it. Yes. But it's going to be very unique. How many pages? Well, it's 130 pages in normal, like eight and a half by 11, you know, normal sheets. So how do you squeeze that down to seven by nine or whatever it is? It'll be, so whatever that will be.

plus a lot of spaces that I don't have in the other one. So it should be somewhat substantial. But the only thing I have to do is go through it and, you know, one more time. And I use footnotes so I don't have a bibliography, both explanatory and for citations. I tried to minimize them as much as possible. I don't like it when articles are, you know, you have the, The references are longer than the actual article. That's been a trend recently.

I don't like that. If you don't believe me, you know, go look it up. So I will let everyone know when that's done. And I'm hoping that's, you know, I want to strike while the iron is hot. I'm assuming that it's more or less over, more or less. So more or less over, you know, as far as I can see, I don't, I don't take anything is going on right now seriously. Ukraine has nothing left to fight with.

So this is a time to release it finally. All right. Well, we all look forward to it. There's another book out there that's exhaustive on, you know, what caused Ukraine and how they led up to it. And it's like 700 pages. So I know you're going to come at it from a different, you'll have a different angle, too.

Because, I mean, that book is good. I read that book before it even came out. But this you'll have a you'll have a much different angle on it. So I encourage everybody to read it. Yeah, to say the least. Yeah. All right. Here we go.

The final decision belonged to Lenin. If he dared to decide in favor of the assassination when his power was still fragile, it was because he had foreseen both the total indifference of the allies, the King of England, cousin of the czar, had he not already in the spring of 1918 refused asylum to Nicholas II and the fatal weakness of the conservative strata of the Russian people. Yeah, we should stop right there. King of England, cousin of the czar, didn't care. Refused asylum to Nicholas II. That tells you all you want to know about who was running Britain and why. They allegedly were on the same side of World War I, which shows you how absurd that was,

total indifference of all the allies the weakness of the conservative strata of the Russian people that's that's another one the left had even though they were tiny in numbers they had they had our people there coming and going it's it's disgusting to read about it goloshaiken who had been exiled to Tobolsk in 1912 for four years and who in 1917 was in the urals was in perfect agreement

was Svardlov. Their telephone conversations between Yataterinburg and Moscow revealed that 1918 they were on first name basis. As early as 1912, following the example of Svardlov, Goloschekin was a member of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party. After the coup of of October, he became secretary of the provincial committee of Perm and Yakaterinburg, and later of the Ural Region Committee, in other words, he had become the absolute master of the region. The project of assassination of the imperial family was ripening in the brains of Lenin and his acolytes, while, on the other hand, the two patrons of the Ural's Golashikin and Bila Bila Boroidov, president of the Ural Soviet, simmered their own machinations.

It is now known that at the beginning of July 1918, Golashikin went to Moscow in order to convince Lenin that letting the Tsar and his family flee was a bad solution, that they had to be openly executed and then announced the matter publicly. Convincing Lenin that the Tsar and his family should be suppressed was not necessary. He himself did not, did not doubt it for a moment. What he feared was the reaction of the Russian people in the West. There were, however, already indications that the thing would pass without making waves. The decision would also depend, of course, on Trotsky, Kamenev, Ziv, Zavnikov, Bukharin,

but they were for the time absent from Moscow, and their mentality, with the possible exception, with the possible exception possibly of that of Kaminov, allowed to suppose none of them would have anything to say about it. Trotsky, as we know, approved of this without feeling any emotion. In his diary of 1935, he says that on his arrival in Moscow, he had a conversation with Svardlov. I asked incidentally, by the way, where is a czar?

It's done, he replied, executed. And the family? the family is well with him all of them i asked with a touch of astonishment all of them replied swerdloff so what he was waiting for a reaction for me i did not answer anything and who decided it i asked all of us here i did not ask any more questions i forgot about it basically this decision was more than reasonable it was necessary not merely in order to frighten to scare the enemy to make him lose all hope, but in order to electrify our own ranks

and to make us understand that there was no turning back that we had before us only an undivided victory or certain death. It's funny that they were worried about the Western reaction. The West was with them all the way

and financing part of this. This was a Jewish concern from top to bottom. London was not really in the picture. I think what Trotsky says here is true as far as it goes. It's not the Apatiyav House. Actually, that was a name given to it. Its owner actually was a gold merchant, a Jewish man, going back some time.

And this was more than just electrifying their ranks. This was the last Roman emperor. This was Everything that the Jews hated Brought together into one person And they hated even worse That he was popular It's really hard

You know And they knew they were unpopular anyway The Bolsheviks did And so it really didn't matter If they did one more unpopular thing It was considered an outrage That they did this To a great man

To a humble man a man who very humbly took this. But the scrollings on the wall, and there are photos of it strongly suggests this, that this is the death of the Persian king. And that's, again, code for the absolute empire of the Roman. from the Old Testament they're talking about really Balsazar

and a few other symbols I talk about in my book which I did not research again I apologize for that I forgot all about it and a few other things this was a deeply symbolic ritualistic action Rome is finally destroyed Rome was the very opposite of Judaism everything that Judaism is

Rome opposes. Rome as a concept, not a place. Rome as a political concept. The land versus the sea power. Land power versus the sea power. You know, the land power versus the merchants. Strong local nationalism versus the wandering Jew. This was everything. And so, and they were just killed. They were tortured to death. because they were shot initially, but they didn't all die. There's no doubt in my mind that the women were sexually assaulted many times when they were brought to the basement. I would take a lot of evidence to convince me otherwise. There is some evidence for that, even in their own writings. So it wasn't just, they weren't just going to shoot them. In their minds, this is all the problems that the Jews had to face in one family, really in one person.

All the nonsense about the pogroms and the alleged torture of the Jews, all of which was garbage. They all believed came from the monarchy, or even the Roman idea in general. And he was canonized decades later by the Russian Orthodox Church. in exile and then by the Moscow Patriarchate a bit later than that. And he's a very popular saint. I have several icons of him in here. So it was a ritual only in the sense that it was a destruction of Rome. There was no restrainer, as Paul says.

St. Paul says in the Bible, there's no restrainer of evil anymore. And our world, the exception possibly of, Third Reich, and even that had its own problems, has been on this downward slide ever since then. I mean, the Spanish flu came out right around this time, slaughtered a huge number of people. World War II was not too far off. And, you know, there was no strategic need for this. I've heard all of those explanations. Now, it had more to do with the Judaic.

rage and neuroticism than anything else. It is true that if he had escaped, he could have created a government in exile. I don't know, but the British certainly weren't going to help him. And I still, you know, there were cousins. You know, they were cousins. They knew each other a long time.

You know, the whole family actually was related. to the British royals and the German royals too and nothing and it's such an outrage that they but you know this is this is how we know they supported the Reds from the beginning the Reds and this is why

you know Lloyd George said things like Trotsky is the only real statesman in Russia so this murder strategically was it strategically that was a secondary concern this had more do with what the Bolshek revolution really was. It was a Jewish erasure of Rome.

M. Haifitz sought out who was able to attend this last council chaired by Lenin, without a doubt. Svardloff, Dzerensky, probably Petrovsky, and Vladimirski of the Czechoshtka, Stuchka of the Commissariat for Justice, perhaps V. Schmidt. Such was the tribunal that condemned the czar. As for Goloshaiken, he had returned to Yacetarenburg on July 12th, awaiting the last signal sent from Moscow. It was Ferdlov who transmitted Lenin's last instruction, and Yakov Uruvsky, a watchmaker, the son of a criminal who had been deported to Siberia, where was born the offspring, had been placed in July 19 at the head of Ipatiev House. This Yorovsky was maneuvering the operation and reflecting on the concrete means of carrying it out with the help of Magyars and Russians, including Pavel Medvedev and Pieter Mirmakov, as well as the best way of making the bodies disappear. Let us point out here the assistance provided by PL Voikov, the regional supply commissioner who supplied barrels of gasoline and sulfuric acid to destroy the corpses.

How the deadly salvos succeeded. each other in the basement of the Apatsev house, which of these shots were mortal, who were the shooters, nobody later could specify not even the executives. Afterwards, Yorovsky boasted of being the best. It was the bullet from my cult that killed Nicholas, but this honor also fell to Irmikov and his comrade Mouser. So these Jews are arguing, you know, who did it? It was such a badge of honor for them. again, Lenin was a secondary figure here. Trotsky was far more important at this point. Now, whether or not the murder electrified their ranks, I'm not sure.

Because you had leftists who thought this wasn't a great idea. They weren't necessarily in the Red Army, though. It put a lot of people off. But they didn't care how anyone really thought of them in this regard. They knew that they were unpopular. but they also had to worry about money from the West, which they were receiving, and they realized from the British example that it didn't matter. No one was going to care. It's like after World War II, Salon's worried that the West is going to be upset if he takes Hungary in Poland.

And no. No, they weren't. And they didn't care. The war started over, allegedly started over Poland. And Salon took it, and the West, you know, they didn't have a problem with it. forgave all of soviet debts from lenleese and the rest of it they think that the they have to create this world where the west of their enemies and at least as far as the elites are concerned it's not the case um and after the uh after the um emigration the end of the civil war

uh to america america departure some to nationalist china um that then ended up in either Australia or California, they then, you know, started writing about this more and more and started realizing what the Bolshek Revolution was and whose our Nicholas was. And so he canonized, you know, he sacrificed himself for, in a way, for the sins of the nobility, who allowed this to happen for the sins of the, I mean, Christ, of course, is the only one who, you know, sacrifices himself in that regard, but in a sense of the, symbolic way. He was the sacrifice for all of these corrupt people who allowed all this to happen,

including the churchmen who supported, it was the majority of them, of the bishops who supported the February Revolution leading to this. I guess they just took it for granted and they didn't realize how bad it was until it was gone. Gulleshaiken did not seek glory, and it is this idiot of Biela Boroidov who beat him. In the 1920s, every everyone knew it was him. The Tsar's number one killer. In 1936, during a tour of Rostovandon, during a party conference, he still boasted of it from the Rostrum, just a year before being himself executed. In 1941, it was Goloshaikin's turn to be executed. As for Yorovsky, after the assassination of the Tsar, he joined Moscow, worked there for a year alongside Derserinsky, thus shedding blood,

and died a natural death. In fact, the question of the ethnic origin of actors has constantly cast a shadow over the revolution as a whole and on each of its events. All the participants and complicities, since the assassination of Stolipin, necessarily collided with the feelings of the Russians. Yes, but what about the assassination of the Tsar's brother, Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich, who were his assassins? Andrei Markov, Gavril Miosnikov, Nikolay Zhukov, Ivan Kolpashikov, clearly all of them Russians.

Well, we could say the same about Rasputin. They were all Russian conservatives, quote unquote. And it was Rasputin who begged the Tsar to not go into World War I, predicting that he will never come out of it alive. His predictions tended to come true. A lot of things. For the same reason that it was the Tsarish generals who forced him out, forced the Tsar out in the first place. All of them were Russians too.

This is pure self-interest. But Mikhail Aksandrovich was not in power. It's a very different story, and they kill him for a very different reason. and same thing for Rasputin. These were allegedly the conservative Russians who hated the fact that Rasputin was pointing out the Masonic cult's penetration into the upper classes, including right into the court of Nicholas.

So I get his point, but it's a very different story. Mikhail was not the Roman emperor. Here, everyone must, how much, asked themselves a question. Have I enlightened my people with a little ray of good, or have I obscured it with all the darkness of evil? So that is that when it comes to the executioners of the revolution. And what about the victims? Hostages and prisoners by entire batches, shot, drowned uncrowded barges, the officers, Russians, the nobles, mostly Russians, the priests, Russians, members of the Zemstvost Russians, and the peasants fleeing enlistment in the Red Army,

taken up in the forest, all Russians. And this Russian intelligency of high moral, anti-Semitic, for it also, it was bad deaths and bloody basements. If names and lists of all those who had been shot and drowned in the first years of Soviet power could be found today from September 1918 onwards, if statistics were available, it would be surprising to find that the revolution in no way manifested its institution. international character, but indeed its anti-Slavic character in accordance, moreover, with the dreams of Marx and Engels. And it is this that it...

Now, what he means by that, what he means by that specifically is that in a lot of his journalistic writings, Karl Marx, I think I've mentioned this several times, Karl Marx, hated the Slavs, in particular, he hated Russia. He didn't just hate the government. He hated Russians in general, because... The Tsar's remained very popular in his lifetime. And the Tsar was the restrainer against revolution. That was the last power.

The Austria-Hungary was too fragile at that point to be the restrainer. It was Russia alone that had the size and the ability. We talked about how it was in 1848, 1849, it was, sorry, Nicholas I, that put the Austrian emperor back. on his throne after the Hungarian revolt dethroned him in Vienna. They didn't get thanked for that. In fact, they made war on him after that. But point being is that Karl Marx knew this, that there was something, in his words,

animalistic about the Slavs. Their slaughter is no problem by him. He loved the Crimean War. All of a sudden, he's so pro-British patriotic, you know, when he was a journalist. and Engels 2 had the harshest and most vicious language against the Slavs in general, in Russians, in particular. So mass slaughter was already built into this. Some people make the claim that Marxism was really for Western European countries, but there's a few problems with that.

Russia was also industrializing very fast, far quicker than anyone else. and a takeover there would permit his dream to come true, the destruction, the genocide of the Russian population. This goes right back to Marx, and his Jewishness has something to do with it, no doubt. But if you read his journalistic writings in this period, say from the Crimea on, he uses the harshest language, which, by the way, was fully acceptable in British society in 1848. And it is this that has imprinted this deep and cruel mark on the face of the revolution, which defines it best. Who has it exterminated, carrying away its dead forever, without return,

far from this sordid revolution and this unfortunate country, the body of this poor, misguided people. During all those months, Lenin was very much occupied with the climate of tension that had arisen around the Jewish question. As early as April 1918, the Council of the People's Commissars of Moscow in the Moscow region published in the Izvestia, thus for a wider audience than the region of Moscow alone,

a circular addressed to the Soviets on the question of the anti-Semitic propaganda of the pogroms, which evoked events having occurred in the region of Moscow that recalled anti-Jewish pogroms. No city was named. It stressed the need to organize special sessions among the Soviets on the Jewish question and the fight against anti-Semitism, as well as meetings and conferences, in short, a whole propaganda campaign. But who, by the way, was the number one

culprit who had to have his hands, his bones broken? But the Orthodox priests, of course. The first point prescribed, pay the utmost attention to the anti-Semitic propaganda carried out by the clergy, take the most radical measures to stop the counter-revolution and the propaganda of the priests. We do not ask ourselves at this moment what measures these were, but in reality, who knows them better than we do? Then point number two recommend to recognize the necessity to not create a separate Jewish fighting organization at the time a Jewish Guard was being considered. The point number four entrusted the Office of Jewish Affairs and the War Commissariat with the task of taking preventative measures to combat anti-Jewish pogromes. Yeah, these pogromes, of course, were complete inventive. inventions. In Lenin's mind, and he says this over and over again in his writing to the time,

and by the way, I did a lecture on this on Rado Abbey in three weeks ago, on the origin of the anti-Semitic laws, anti-Semitic laws in the early Soviet Union, that to be anti-Jewish is to be anti-Soviet. He said this over and over again. If I don't have a problem with the Jews, by definition, he was a counter-revolutionary, which made no sense on its face because there were so many wealthy Jews who did very well before and after the revolution. They controlled a huge amount of capitals we've shown in this book, but that's not the bourgeoisie he's talking about. They don't count.

And you imagine Jews still not trusting the fact that there were some Gentiles, whether be a handful of Russians or those from the Baltics, maybe those from the Southern Caucasus, etc. But that was too much for them. So they wanted to create their own ethnically pure fighting units, even though Bolshevism was a Jewish movement in and of itself. Even the handful that were there, that it still was too impure for them. Creating their own land of Bribzdan under Stalin. We'll talk about this later on, you know, to have their own homeland in an already Jewish-run USSR. It shows you the racial fanaticism that they had.

But they had to keep inventing this. Now, a pogrom could be a clergyman who realized that this movement, that this had taken over the government, was Jewish. And uttering that fact, and you had bishop saying it, and you had priests saying it, you had monks saying it, you had those who fled the country saying it, That was a pogrom as far as Lennon was concerned. There were no anti-Jewish pogroms at the time.

But the white armies were well aware of who was controlling the, of who the Reds really were, and why they were being financed by the West. At the height of the same year in 1918, Lenin recorded a gramophone on gramophone of special discourse on anti-Semitism in the Jews. He there denounced the cursed Tsarist autocracy, which had always launched uneducated workers and peasants against the Jews. The Tsarist police, assisted by landowners and capitalists, perpetrated anti-Jewish pogroms. Hostility towards the Jews is perennial, only where the capitalist cabal has definitely obscured the minds of the workers and the peasants. There are among

the Jews workmen, men of labor. They are a majority. are our brothers, oppressed as we are by capitalism. They are our comrades who struggle with us for socialism. Shame on the Kersarism. Shame on those who sow hostility toward the Jews. Recordings of this speech were carried all the way to the front, transported through towns and villages aboard special propaganda trains which crisscrossed the country. Grammophones spread this discourse in clubs, meetings, assemblies. Soldiers, workers, and peasants listened to their leaders harangue and began to understand what this was all about. But this speech at the time was not published by intentional omission. It only was so in 1926 in the book of Agorski Senior. You wonder who his

audience was. Because I spent quite a bit of time in my paper and my talk on these laws. This was essentially the first decree on combating anti-Semitism in the early Soviet Union. Who was he really talking to here? Did the average soldier give a damn? The average soldier didn't like Jews anymore than anyone else did. He saw them as as well you know, very wealthy upper middle class people, especially if they were from the western part of the empire. That wasn't going to electrify their side. That wasn't going to that wasn't going to, um, had no strategic value whatsoever. The only thing it could be is to the Jews in the Western world, to wealthy Jews in Russia itself, that this is about you.

You have nothing to worry about here. It doesn't matter how much money you have. You're not really. You're still a proletarian. He knows damn well that there weren't a whole lot of Jewish workmen, men of labor. They claim to be in some cases, but we've been through that already. they weren't. They lied about it. The majority of Jews he's trying to claim were workers. That is utter nonsense.

And we've gone through it in a great detail in our talks going back a couple of months now. There's not a single true statement in this or the other speeches and decrees that he made on the question. So this isn't for the average soldier. You know, totally get to roll their eyes at this. It's to show wealthy Jews that you are not the target here. We claim to be for the workers and inequality and all this stuff, but you are not concluded among those who are going to despoil. That goes only for others.

That's the only strategic purpose of this speech had and why he spread it everywhere and why everyone had to hear it, but he had a very specific audience in mind. On July 27, 1918, just after the execution of the imperial family, the Sovnarcum promulgated a special law on anti-Semitism. The Soviet of the people's commissarsarses declares that any anti-Semitic movement is a danger to the cause of the revolution of the workers and peasants. In conclusion, from Lenin's own hand, Lunasharski tells us, the So-Narkham directed all Soviet deputations to take radical measures to eradicate anti-Semitism. The insiders of pogroms, those who propagate them, will be declared outlaws, signed V. I. W. I. W. Leonov, Lenin.

If the meaning of the word outlaw may have escaped some at the time, in the months of the red terror, it would appear clearly, 10 years later, in a sentence of a communist militant, Larene, who was himself for a while, the commissar, the people, and even the promoter, of war communism to outlaw the active anti-Semites was to shoot them. In other words, outlaw was, it was taken literally. You're outside the law. You're not a citizen. You don't matter.

You are an enemy. Your very existence makes you an enemy. So killing them is not a problem. There's no due process. There's no nothing. You are literally outside of the law. and again I talk about that too and I want to remind everybody

and we'll actually Solzhen Easton spends a lot of time on this a bit later Stalin said the exact same kind of things Stalin was as phylo-Semitic as you can get as far as his ideology was concerned Stalin made the same kind of comments

use these same kind of slogans Stalin believed in that world revolution with a universal world language I don't know what that was going to be in his mind, but, you know, he has his reputation falsely as some sort of a weirdo, you know, national Bolshevik type, and he was nothing of the kind. He was identical to Lenin and Trotsky, both in terms of ideology as well as methods. And then there is Lenin's famous reply to Diemannstein in 1919.

Demonstein wished to obtain from Lenin that he retained the distribution of Gorky's track containing such praises to the address of the Jews that it could create the impression that the revolution was based only on the Jews and especially on the individuals from the middle class. Lenin replied, as we have already said, that immediately after October it was the Jews who had saved the revolution by defeating the resistance of the civil servants and consequently Gorky's opinion was perfectly correct. The Jewish Encyclopedia does not doubt it either. Quoting, Lenin refused to sweep under the carpet the extremely pro-Semite proclamation of M. Gorky,

and it was disseminated in great circulation during the Civil War in spite of the fact that it risked becoming an asset in the hands of anti-Semites who were enemies of the revolution. And it became so, of course, for the whites who saw two images merge, that of Judaism and that of Bolshevism. The surprising, short-sighted indifference of the Bolshevik leaders to the popular sentiment and the growing irritation of the population is blatant when we see how much Jews were involved in repression directed against the Orthodox clergy. It was in summer in 1918 that was initiated the assaults on the Orthodox churches in central Russia and especially in the Moscow region, which included several provinces, an assault which only ceased thanks to the wave of rebellions in the parishes. You see, without the Jewish element, let's say that this had been a revolutionary group that wanted, like the British roundheads or something like that, or the communist in the radical reformation, if it was a communist group of non-Jewish origin, there wouldn't have been this attack on the church. They could have used the church. The monasteries were already communal. peasant commune was the dominant form of social life in Russia. No, it was only the Jewish element that added this hatred for the church that they had to be slaughtered in huge numbers. I mean,

this was the second largest church in the world behind the Roman church, and their clergy after, you know, Stalin was reduced to almost to nothing. If it wasn't for their, you know, many clergy abroad, God knows what would have happened. Now, I've also read plenty of Western treatments of the revolution, and let's say, you know, Western papers, British and American, and they don't talk about this very much. There's the occasional mention of it, but even if they had reporters there, I don't know if they did or not, they weren't going to talk about it. There was no condemnation. This was nothing but support.

And precisely, this was some of the things that led the Western world to continue to support the Reds. And I said this before, but the Allies went to the whites and said, you know, if you eliminate anti-Semites from your ranks and never talk about the Jews again, maybe, maybe we'll support you. Oh, you have to have an amnesty, you know, with the Reds. You have to give back all your prisoners and everything else. So in other words, they'd have an army of like seven people after that. So they said all these stupid things, you know, these conditions that they knew that they could never. Oh, you had to pay all the debts of World War I and the Zaris debts. Well, Zaris debts were very few, but all the war debts and everything else you had to be responsible for.

Then maybe we'll change our minds. First of all, they wouldn't have changed their minds. and second of all they knew that there was no way the whites could ever accept these conditions that's the cynicism of the Western world they had nothing but contempt for the white armies in Western media treatments the white armies were monarchists

they weren't all a lot of them were but they weren't all but in the Western press at least in the English speaking ones that I know about the white army were, you know, landlords and billionaires who wanted to reinstall the czar and go back to, you know, 1900. The truth of the matter is that there were very few landowners in the ranks of the officer corps, a handful.

These were military men who came up that way. You know, they didn't need, they had that income. They didn't need any other. Yes, they were Orthodox for the most part. The Cossack certainly were. And the main, you know, with the Deneke, and Kunilov, these were not monarchists, really. At least at the higher levels. They wanted a republic.

And that drives me. They still saw themselves as fighting for the February Revolution against the October Revolution. They thought that Karinsky was the legitimate ruler, or at least that government was a legitimate government that they were fighting for. Now, there were plenty of white armies that were not. and were royalists. But in the main, the dominant officer corps, these are the same people who, I'm not saying Denekean did this,

but like Alexiev had died at this point. You know, these were some of the people who forced the czar to abdicate or fake his abdication. So in the main, it was not a monarchist movement. So everything they're saying here is just, I'm not sure, again, who he's, who he's appealing to.

But to this very day, the propaganda remains. These were all landowners. Well, by the time the war started, landowners were the peasantry. Well, I guess they were consistent there because they slaughtered the peasantry. So I guess he really hated the landowners. You know, that's what a Kuulak was. Stalinism was not the first group to use the word Kulak. That had been around for a while.

These were lower middle class peasants or just anyone. one they didn't like. So the peasants were the landlords. So all of this, these propaganda words, these these words that have numerous definitions, these vague pronouncements, everything that these guys are saying is absolutely false from a factual level. In January 1918, the workers who were building the fortress of Kronstadt rebelled and protested. The executive committee of the party composed exclusively of non-natives, had designated for guard duty instead of militia, Orthodox priests, while not a Jewish rabbi, not a Muslim mullah, nor not a Catholic pastor, not a Protestant pastor was put to use. Let us note in passing that even on this small fortified

island of the prison of the peoples, there were places of worship for all the confessions. A text entitled, Charge on the Jews, appeared even all the way to the pro, to the, to the, the Pravda, a call from the workers of Arkangelsk to Russian workers and peasants conscious of their fate in which they read are profane, defiled, plundered, exclusively Orthodox churches, never synagogues. Death by hunger and disease carries hundreds of thousands of innocent lives among the Russians, while the Jews do not die of hunger or disease. There was also during the summer of 1918, a criminal case of anti-Semitism in the Church of Basil the Blissful in Moscow. What met? After the takeover in 1918, in October of 1918, the Soviets dealt with rebellion

from then until the German invasion. It was constant. And this kind of talk was pretty normal, whether it be the peasants or from party cadres in the, you know, this was the party talking here. the Soviet cells, that kind of, or the local Soviets, didn't like what was going on. So you had people on the left that said this is ridiculous. This is slaughter for absolutely no reason. It doesn't help our side. It doesn't help our plan. These people actually believe that this was all about workers and equality.

And you're going to see right in Pravda, who, was under the St. Petersburg Soviet, connected with the revolution, but independent from it. Lone-Kronstadt rebellion, it never ended. And a lot of them were saying this exact same kind of thing. Yes, it was only Orthodox churches. Synagogues were not touched, and Jews were the ones who were doing it. Jews were dominant or in complete control, primarily of the punitive organs.

the Cheka, Agpoo, at all levels. And essentially the murder of Tsar Nicholas, how they were tortured, how they were sexually assaulted, the girls were. That was just a symbol what was going to do to Russia as long as they could. What madness on the part of the Jewish militants to have mingled with the ferocious repression exerted by the Bolsheviks against Orthodoxy, even more fierce than against their own other confessions. With this persecution of priests, with the outbursts of the press of sarcasms aimed at the Christ, the Russian pens also zealously attacked Demian Bedney, Ephraim Pridvorov, for example, and he was not the only one. Yes, the Jews should have stayed out of it. On the 9th of August 1919,

Patriarch Tikon wrote to the president of the V-T-S-I-K Kalanin with a copy of the Sov-Narkham president Ulyanov Lenin to demand the dismissal of the investigating magistrate Pittsburgh, Chip Pittsburgh, in charge of the affairs of the church, a man who publicly outrages the religious beliefs of the people who openly mocks ritual gestures, who in the preface to the book the religious plague, gave Jesus Christ abominable names, and thus profoundly upset my religious feeling. The text was transmitted to the small, Svnorcom, from which came the reply on September 3rd, classified the complaint of citizen Belavine, Patriarch Tikhon, without follow-up. But Kalinen changed his mind and addressed a secret letter to the

Justice Commissioner Krasikov, saying that he believed that for practical and political considerations replaced Chippsperchipisburg with someone else, given that the audience in the court is probably in its majority orthodox, and that it is therefore necessary to deprive the religious circles of their main reason for ethnic revenge. St. T. Kahn was, I have a paper that is coming out in the Barnes Review pretty soon. He was in custody for a good chunk of the Civil War. And yes, he's being a little bit naive here. But, you know, eventually he came around.

He understood what was happening. he knew what they had done to Zarnikilus but it didn't make any even from a strategic standpoint the Bolsheviks this is how you know

they were aided by the West they're outraging the overwhelming majority of the Russian population how can you hold on to power if you're doing stuff like this and the religious plague but he means a Christian plague

this is just a Talmud you know in an accessible I've not read that book. That's just a Talmud in a more accessible way. So, yeah, maybe some people said, yeah, we can't give them reason for any kind of ethnic revenge. It didn't really go anywhere because this continued all the way up, really, until Khrushchev and even beyond. But, you know, they were doing everything in their power to be as hated as they possibly could.

And you can't do that unless you have a substantial amount of, Jewish money and Western assistance. They're doing this in the middle of the Civil War, by the way. I think we should stop there. We're going to talk about the profanning of relics. And unless do you think... That's always a fun topic. Yeah, I think we should save it for next time.

What was I going to ask you? About the murder of the Tsar and his family and the overthrow. the overthrow of Rome, you know, like the final bullet in Rome in their minds. It's hard for me to believe that people will tell you, well, you know, most Jews have never even read the Talmud, or they don't really know anything about their history. Yet, I mean, this was, what, a watchmaker? This was done by people who they weren't rabbis. I mean, it's such, I use this example all the time. You know, most Americans, you know, want to invoke the Constitution and they believe in free speech

and they believe in everything that is supposed to be guaranteed in the Constitution, yet most of them never read it. It's not that you have to read and study something. I mean, you are, you're growing up in an environment where this is, what the dominant, this is, this doesn't even have to be spoken in most cases if you're somebody who believes in the metaphysical. Well, yeah, this was something that existed in every Jewish family, some more extreme than others. But this mentality from the book, Religious Plague, all the names that Jesus Christ is given, this is normal in every Jewish family. You don't have

to read the Talmud. I don't know how many people can actually claim to or read the entire thing and remember it, remember from page one to the end of the last volume. I don't know how that's even possible. And what I've read of it is painful, very painful from top to bottom to go through. That's not the point. It's a mentality. It's in the Jewish mind. This is what happens when you reject logos, as they did when they,

when the Pharisees murdered Christ and the Jews continue to defend that action and seek the destruction of Christianity wherever they go. This was pretty normal for them. And of course, T-Con was well aware of that. T-Con knew about all of this.

You had so many churchmen who were kind of playing nice if for no other reason than to try to appeal saying, you know, we're not necessarily your enemy. I mean, TECON didn't say that, but trying to play nice just for the sake of saving people. Now, the famous Patriarch Sergius later on had a gun to his head as an entire, you know, he said,

you know, if you don't give your church's full support to the revolution, we're going to shoot you, and we're going to shoot the rest of the Orthodox people in the USSR. So we did it. I don't know what any of us would have done in his spot. And they weren't just killed. I mean, they were tortured to death. T-Con miraculously died a natural death. But, you know, this was, this was the limit.

This was every Jew's dream come true. And the only difference is, is that when Trotsky had to flee the country, and he was more obviously Jewish than either Lenin or Stalin, you had a lot of Jews that mentally went with him. And so they became anti-Stalinist. Stalin was, of course, an anti-Semite in their minds. He was not. But then they became just anti-Soviet and became the neocons.

And I'm sure. I don't think he talks about that in here, but I've talked about that many times in the past. They're leftists on everything except anti-communist action. Of course, now, U.S. intervention is totally different ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. it was different prior to 1990. You know, I hate to see, you know, T-Con talking like this. These people were well aware of it. And yet, you know, they realized what could happen.

They realized what could happen to everyone around them. And the Jews were a, this was normal for them. It's happened many times in the past. This is not the first time that Jews had taken over an area and slaughtered Christians. that goes all the way back to the takeover of Jerusalem. God, and the Persian Empire, when the Persians retook it. This goes way back,

to go back to the classical period. You know, this is nothing new. But that's really what you're talking about. You're the Talmud. Yeah, I don't have to take Telmud courses by a rabbi to be Talmudic. I don't have to be a deep into, you know, a 33rd degree Mason, a member of the craft to be Masonic. you know, if you hate Christianity,

it doesn't necessarily mean you've read Foyerbach. You know, one has nothing to do with the other. This hatred for everything, what they considered Roman, and hence Christian in their minds, that wasn't necessarily rational, but it defined what a Jew was. And in every Jewish family, you could find it. You could find it today to some extent,

but certainly in Russia. And that's why you had Lenin saying any anti-Jewish thinking is, by definition, anti-Soviet, anti-communist. He knew the two went together. All right. We'll pick it up on the next episode. I encourage everyone to go to the show notes and to go to the description in the video and contribute to Dr. Johnson and his work. And, yeah, we will be back in a few days.

and pick this right up with the bullshitics. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. You take care of yourself.