The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 69
Episode Date: September 10, 202552 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson c...ontinue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonDr Johnson's CashApp - $Raphael71RusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonDr. Johnson's Pogroms ArticleThe Orthodox Nationalist: Karl Marx “On the Jewish Question” (1844)Pete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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I want to welcome everyone back to part 69 of our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenyson.
Dr. Johnson, how are you doing this fine Saturday?
I failed my auto inspection yesterday.
I sat there.
It was the brake calipers.
And I sat there like a normal person for like four hours, waiting for everything to get done.
I spent $1,000.
I can't believe it.
Now, it's normal wear and tear, but I just, I have never, I want to be back in Nebraska
where we don't have state inspections because if they did,
they'd be very few cars on the road over there.
So, you know, I was there for at least four hours.
And it, so it's, and I spent a small, what I think is a small fortune on these things.
Calipers are just normal wear and tear, though.
You know, their brakes.
So, yeah, so I guess I'm doing all right.
Yeah, I've only lived in one state where you had to do inspection, and that was Georgia.
I don't remember doing it in Florida, but in Georgia, but it was only emissions.
There was no safety inspection, like brakes and all that stuff.
So you basically knew you were going to fail if your check engine light was on.
I used to know some people, you know, to just get the sticker.
in the most corrupt possible way.
But I lost track with them when I lost my Facebook account.
So I had to go like a normal person.
I mean, I'm not a normal person.
So, you know, sitting there, I used to know a couple of guys that would just put the sticker on.
But yeah, got me thinking about Nebraska.
And now where you were there's not, right?
Oh, there's nothing.
Oh, in Alabama, there is nothing.
I mean, you're not going to, yeah, yeah, I mean, half the people I know their cars wouldn't be on the road.
Yeah, Alaska, there's a few others.
Minnesota, which I thought was weird, but they just pull you over.
Like, if your lights aren't working at night, you're going to get pulled over.
You've got to get them fixed, so I don't know.
I think there is nothing in Wyoming or like the Montana or the, the, the Dakotas or Montana.
But if you get a speeding ticket, the only reason you really get a speeding ticket, if you're out on the open road, is they consider that to be emissions related.
It's not really for a safety thing.
It's like, oh, you're polluting the air.
And then from what I understand, someone I know who got one, like, they'll let you pay at the next town or something like that.
The only time you need to get an inspection in Nebraska is if you bring the car in from out of state, so I had to do it once.
Or you build it yourself.
Apparently, that's a big thing.
Kit car, yeah.
Yeah, and that has to be inspected.
Or if you can't produce a title,
and they're just looking to see, you know,
what the hell it is.
But otherwise, you know, it's anarchy most of the time.
Wonderful.
Well, on that note, let's jump in a new chapter today,
chapter 16, during the Civil War.
And here we go.
Trotsky once boasted that during the Civil War, even traveling in his special
Revolutionary Military Council Railroad coach, he was able to find time to acquaint himself
with the latest works of French literature.
Not that he realized exactly what he said.
He acknowledged that he was able to find not just time, but room in his heart between
appeals to the revolutionary sailors, forcibly mobilized units of the Red Army, and a
thrown order to execute every tent soldier in a unit that wavered in battle.
Well, he usually did not stay around to supervise carrying out such orders.
Let's be clear.
The white army at no time had a railroad coach for the commanders.
Usually they suffered along with the men.
They were so outspent by the Reds, which of course begs the question.
they always had, you know, I've been saying this for a long time.
I don't care what anyone says.
I know the Western world did not assist the whites at all.
The only time, the only reason that they were even there
was to defend, we'll try to keep Russia in the war
and to protect their assets, like French in Ukraine,
of Britain in the oil producing regions down south and of course the Americans up north and
even in Siberia.
But the Siberians, they had no combat capability.
They were just like a mall copse as far as I can see.
But the, you know, Dineken says we didn't get a bullet.
We didn't get anything from the West.
Most of our supplies came from what was left over on the battlefield.
The supplies, ammunition was always critically low, 24 hours a day.
And here we have Trotsky in his railroad coach.
You know, they had a full professional staff.
They had full salaries.
You know, where was this money coming from?
And it's just, and I'm not even talking about, you know, the Germans, the Germans weren't financing.
New the end of the war, the Germans were not financing.
The Bolsheviks.
Germans couldn't finance anything.
near the end of the war.
Germany was still being used, though,
as part of the route for Jewish money coming from the big New York banks
into Russia to support either.
Trotskyites and Leninists, there were two factions.
They didn't, they sometimes disagreed.
Trotsky didn't like the Brecht-Latost-Latowski Treaty,
but they were not going to punch left of whatsoever.
So, but that shows you right away,
the huge difference between the two armies.
White generals suffered with their men no matter where they were.
And yet the Reds, the communists, the Bolsheviks were very, very well financed.
Orchestrating a bloody war on the vast plains of Russia,
he was absolutely untouched by the unprecedented suffering of her inhabitants, by her pain.
He soared aloft, above it all, on the wings of the international intoxication of the revolution.
The February Revolution was a Russian Revolution, no matter how headlong, erroneous, and pernicious it was,
it did not aspire to burn down the entire pre-existing life to annihilate the whole pre-revolutionary Russia.
yet immediately after the October Bolshevik revolution, the revolution spilled abroad and became an international and devastating plague,
feeding itself by devouring and destroying social order wherever it spread.
Everything built was to be annihilated, everything cultivated, to be confiscated, whoever resisted, to be shot.
The Reds were exclusively preoccupied with their grand social experiment, predestined to be repeated, expanded, and implemented all over the world.
That's an excellent point.
I like the idea that he's properly defining the word revolution.
In the political sense, a revolution is when a party takes over and wants to destroy everything of the old order.
They start off, they even change the calendar, year zero, year one.
There'll be nothing left.
All the old, you know, everything from the family to the workplace, everything will be destroyed and will be then rebuilt.
by the party. That's a revolution. The American revolution, that was just a war of independence.
There weren't a whole lot of big political differences there fundamentally.
And that's, but he's saying that that's what's happening in February. It was a Masonic revolution.
I guess to some extent they wanted to do that over a long period of time.
But compared to what happened in October, it was a very different story.
And a lot of their experiments, the first couple of years, you know, were totally repealed,
especially colentized stuff with this, you know, sexual revolution.
But that is the property.
You use the word revolution.
That's how you have to use it to destroy.
The society that we're taking over is so evil that we have to destroy every aspect of it, leaving nothing there.
And then we rebuild it and we restart it.
and we'll live in paradise.
That's the definition of revolution.
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For an easy, quick blow, the October coup snowballed into a fierce three-year-long civil war,
which brought countless bodies, calamities, countless bloody calamities to all the peoples of Russia.
The multinationality of the former empire and the cannon recoil from the Great War
complicated both the inhumane Bolshevik plot and its implementation.
Unlike the French Revolution, which unfolded on the territory of mononational France,
and did not see much foreign intervention apart from a short incursion of hostile troops,
and with all its horrors being a national affair from beginning to end,
the Russian Revolution was horribly aggravated by its multinational masses.
It saw the strong participation of Red Latvians, then Russian subjects,
former German and Austrian prisoners of war,
organized into full-blown regiments like the Hungarians,
and even large numbers of Chinese.
No doubt the brunt of the fighting for the Reds was carried out by Russians,
some of them were drafted on pain of death,
while others volunteered in a mad belief
that they would be fighting for a happy future for themselves.
Yet the Russian Jews were not lost in all that diversity.
The politically active part of Russian Jews,
Jewry, which backed the Bolshevik civic regime in 1917, not just as boldly stepped into the military
structures of Bolsheviks. During the first years after the October Revolution in the midst of
the internationalist frenzy, the power over this enormous land was effortlessly slipping into
the hands of those clinging to the Bolsheviks, and they were overwhelmed by the newfound
immensity of that power. They immediately began using it without a backward glance or any fear of
control, some without doubt in the name of higher ideals, while others in the name of lower ideals.
Obstinacy of fanaticism is some, in some, an ability to adapt in others.
At that time, no one could imagine that the Civil War would ignite enormous Jewish pogroms
unprecedented in their atrocity and bloodshed all over the south of Russia.
Well, I don't know what he means in that last section.
during the Civil War
so many of the opponents
of the whites were of Jewish background
I guess it appeared that way
but this is this is a reality of
warfare everyone knew who the two sides were
everyone knew that the Jews were
essentially were the Bolshevik revolution
and yeah you did have a huge
number of the old regimes, technicians, and officers in the Red Army, but they had also
hostages, which they were willing to shoot.
In my very lengthy article on the Civil War, which really started off to be just about St.
T-Con, but ended up being about the Civil War in general.
That's one of the reasons the whites were incapable of doing.
that. Because Trotsky didn't care, he wasn't a Russian. He didn't see himself that way.
He could wipe out whole groups of people. None of the white generals could do that.
They weren't, you know, they weren't capable of taking hostages. Even if they could, they
wouldn't have. The fanaticism, the level of fanaticism where
You have one ideological manifesto ruling everything.
The whites, of course, were a mess.
There were a patchwork all over the place.
Some monarchists, some not.
The monarchists were saying that, you know,
Bolivism could only be fought by its opposite,
which is orthodox royalism and nationalism.
So many errors.
You know, but at any given time,
well, especially in the last two years, the reds always outnumbered, outnumbered the whites.
And a lot of it had to do with the fact that the London was lying about his agenda.
Trotsky was too.
They weren't talking about, you know, burning down churches.
They weren't talking about collectivization or anything else at the time.
But as soon as that came into being, you had peasant uprisings everywhere.
everywhere and it didn't stop until 1941
and these peasant uprisings
they started occurring during the
during the Civil War
again another error of the whites was that they didn't
join up with them
of course they didn't have many supplies for them anyway
but they didn't connect with them
the agenda of the peasants was also all over the place
some were strict royalists some weren't
and of course, you know, they ended up getting mowed down because of how well equipped the reds were.
This was an ongoing thing consistently.
Even when the Civil War officially was over, the peasant uprisings were endless.
And this is a part of the reason why collectivization, everyone knew it had to be done.
But this is the only way that a totalitarian system could take power.
Because you notice how we defined revolution also implies totalitarianism.
If you could tear everything out, everything, every aspect of life down,
you're going to build every aspect of life up, which implies you're controlling it.
Totalitarianism means to control everything.
Everything is subject to legal regulation.
Everything is under the party.
Everything is for the party, no matter what it is.
how private you think it is.
And so revolution, totalitarianism, strictly speaking, they go together.
We can judge the true nature of the multi-ethnic war from the Red Pogrom during the suppression of the Kronstadt uprising in March 1921.
A well-known socialist, revolutionary, and sociologist, Petram Sorkin writes,
For three days, Latvian, Bashir, Hungarian, Tatar, Russian, Jewish, and international rabble crazed by alcohol and the smell of blood, raped and killed without restraint.
Or here is another recollection from ordinary witnesses.
During the Feast of the Epiphany in 1918, an Orthodox sacred profession stirred forth from the gates of the Kremlin in Tula and an international squad gunned it down.
Even with the ruthless international squads, the force of the warrants.
of the Red Guard alone was no longer sufficient. The Bolshevik regime needed a regular army.
In 1918, Lev Trotsky, with the help of Sklajansky and Yaakov Svrdlov, created the Red Army.
Quote, many Jews were fighting in its ranks. Some units were entirely Jewish, like, for example,
the Brigade of Joseph Furman, end quote. The Jewish share in the Command Corps, the Red Army became
the Jewish Air and the Command Corps, the Red Army became large and influential,
and this trend continued for many years, even after the end of the Civil War.
This Jewish involvement has been researched by several Jewish authors and encyclopedias.
So, yeah, so you can't talk to me about pogroms.
When you have, and these were some of the Zionist Corps,
these were the followers of Moses Hess, the Poli-Zion,
the so-called self-defense units,
then, you know, threw themselves into the war on the red side.
And so, you know, you had a almost an entirely Russian, although you did have some southern Turkic
and Asiatic units that were very, very loyal.
Even beyond the dawn, you had some Muslims who were fanatical fighters against
the Zionist, but for the most part, it was a Russian movement against a largely Jewish one.
And if you were there at the time, there was no way you could miss it.
So you shoot a bullet during the Russian Civil War on the white side.
That was a program.
I think you said Zionists there.
Did you mean to say Zionist?
You mean the self-defense corps?
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
Because they were well armed.
Zionists were part of this.
They were well armed, Poli Zion, too, the half-socialist, half-Zionist followers of Moses
Hess, as well as simply the communist gangs themselves.
We were sort of talking about the pogroms.
I don't know.
It has started in the Jewish mind many years earlier, and that's when their self-defense
groups began to form and began to train.
and they became, I don't want to say the core of the Red Army,
but they became part of the Red Army as the Civil War went on.
In the 1980s, Israeli scholar Aaron Abramovich used many Soviet sources,
including the 50-year anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces,
the Soviet historical encyclopedia,
volumes of directives of the Front Command of the Red Army
to compile detailed nominal rosters of highly ranked Jewish
commanders, exclusively Jewish ones, in the Red Army during the period from the Civil War
up to the aftermath of the Second World War.
Let's skip through the pages allocated to the Civil War.
This is a very extensive roster.
It begins with the Revoid and Soviet.
This is all names.
This is a humongous list of Jews.
Sometimes the names change, sometimes with names change, sometimes with names.
names not changed, that were at the high command, medium command, even, you know, lieutenants,
whatever.
All of a sudden, you know, the left loved ranks.
You know, when they were in the world, you know, the order number one was repealed.
They were as strict as anyone else.
This is an army of Jews just as officers.
And this is just a small selection.
And so I'm not going to torture you.
Thank you.
By having to go through the entire thing.
It's a long list of Jewish names.
I bet if I try it hard enough, I could find like a Jew in the White Army somewhere.
I'm sure there was one or two.
But this proves that the Red Army under Trotsky's command was.
was largely Jewish, and yet it was mostly Russians that suffered.
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Yeah, so there's about 20 names of commanders here.
I'm going to jump ahead.
Abramovich painstakingly lists numerous Jewish heads of staff
and members of their Rovoyan Soviets
in each of the 20 armies,
then the commanders' heads of staff
and military commissars of divisions.
The list of the latter, those in charge of the ideological branch of command,
was three times longer than the list of Jewish commanders of divisions.
In this manner, Abramovich describes brigades, regiments, and separate detachments.
He lists Jewish heads of political administrations and revolutionary military tribunals at all levels,
noting that especially large percentages of Jews can be found among political officers at all levels of the Red Army.
Jews played an important role in the provision and supply.
services. Let's name some of them. Jews occupied important positions in military medicine as well,
heads of sanitary administrations of the fronts, an army, senior doctors of units, and bodies of
troops. Many Jews, commanders of large units and detachments, were distinguished for their courage,
heroism, and generalship, but due to the synoptic character of this chapter, we cannot provide
detailed descriptions of the accomplishments of the Jewish Red Army soldiers, commanders, and
political officers, meticulously listing the commanders of armies, the researchers,
misses another Jew, T-Con Kvesh, who happened to be in charge of the fourth army of the
Eastern Front, then of the Eighth Army of the Southern Front, and later of the First Army of
the Turkistan Front.
So you have Jews saying that if you wanted to read every name of officers, commander,
in the Red Army,
it would take pages upon pages, upon pages, upon pages,
you know, and beyond.
Now, you notice also, we hear phrases like political officer.
You already have the idea of you can't have an autonomous army.
This is what happened when World War II Stalin had perfected it,
but it started here.
The commander had to have a political.
political officer attached to him, fanatical, probably Jewish, tightly connected to the party.
That's going to make sure that his decisions are in line with socialism and that he's ideologically
motivated in the right way. The last thing in the world these people wanted, regardless of
anything else was an autonomous army. And in World War II, a huge portion of the Soviet
army's casualties were self-inflicted because these people were shot trying to retreat
or disagreeing with someone in huge numbers. You had whole detachments, whole regiments,
that were ordered to shoot if anyone was the retreat. So, and that you could find that you
find that in painful detail in Yoakim Hoffman's book, Salon's War of Extermination,
that they took a large chunk out of their own army. But as far as the communists were concerned,
well, they weren't reliable anyway. So you're talking about just an absurdly large list
of Jews running this. Many brought in from New York. And I know I've said it before, but
This is why Stalin had to purge them because they were good for this kind of fighting.
But they, you know, a regular army, that was a different story.
And they were brought in without any military experience, some of them.
Trotsky. Trotsky never served in the army at any level whatsoever.
He's head of the Red Army.
You know, that's the symbol of the Soviet, especially the early Soviet Union.
is that you had people put in positions that they had absolutely no right to hold
so long as they were either Jewish or fanatically loyal to either Transkew or Lennon.
And yet the Red Army did rely on old imperial officers,
who most certainly had a political officer attached to them.
to get the fighting done.
But the political officer was meant to connect their work with the party, never, never to be
independent or to make independent decisions whatsoever.
Suvorov mentions those, I forget what they were called push brigades or something like that.
They were, it was basically a line of men that was behind a unit.
And if anybody tried to retreat or run away, they were, or if anybody fell behind.
behind. They just shot them.
Yeah. I've heard a bunch of different translations, push brigades.
And it was a big chunk of the military.
They shot a lot of Soviet soldiers of all backgrounds.
I'm talking about World War II now.
And, you know, Zubkov, no matter how, you know, he may be by himself a great strategist.
But he could not be, he could not be.
he could not be at all independent.
And even he was held under suspicion because he was so good.
So that goes for the rest of them.
And so you're reading here, political officers, what the hell does that mean?
That's what we're talking about.
It's a party member attached to a major commander to make sure that he doesn't have any ideas of his own.
The Russian Jewish Encyclopedia provides additional information about some commanders.
Here I would like to commend this encyclopedia in 1994 for in our new free times its authors performed an honest choice,
writing frankly about everything, including less than honorable things.
Drobgen-Gusef became the head of political administration of the Red Army and the chief of the entire Red Army in 1921.
Later, he was head of its Ist part, commission on the history of October Revolution and Bolshevist
party and a big figure in the common turn and was buried in the Kremlin wall in Moscow.
Mikhail Gaskovic Leskiewicz, Lasz, was a member of many Revoian Soviets, and later he was in
charge of the Siberian military district, and even later, the first deputy chairman of the
Revoian Soviet of the USSR, yet he was buried merely on the field of Mars in St. Petersburg.
it's essentially another list of names here yeah um with some descriptions i don't know if it's worth
it to go through it there's a couple of things of of interest this goes on for a while
uh yeah he's detailing it maybe we should just go through it i'll i'll i won't spend so much time on
the names um israel rosgone was the military commissioner of the headquarters of petrograd military
district then participated in the suppression of the cronstadt upright
Later, he was in charge of the right army in Bukhara, suppressing the uprising in Central Asia.
Still later, he worked in the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet.
I thought they represented, I thought they represented, that they were the peoples,
they represented the masses, they represented the workers and peasants.
And all these guys do is suppress, it suppress rebellions.
Apparently, that didn't connect in their minds.
Boris Goldberg was military commissar of the Tom Skaia of,
gubernaya later of the permskaya gubernaya still later at the privalshyski military district and even later
he was in charge of the reserve army and was acknowledged as one of the founders of the soviet civil
aviation remember that aviation and that technology they got from the west yeah the west was
already investing in um in the soviet economy um this is why Stalin had the best tanks in the
world in 1941 by far because they had Stalin had sent, actually they were Jews very obviously
to the Vickers plant.
They bought a bunch of them and went back and that became the foundation of Soviet armor from
there on in.
So the same thing happened here.
Modest Rubinstein spelled modest.
was deputy head of the Revojant Soviet of the Special Army,
and later he was head of political administration of an army group.
Boris Hippo was the head of the political administration of the Black Sea Fleet.
Later, he worked in the political administrations of the Baltic Sea Fleet.
The Turkestan Front was ahead of the political administration of the Central Asian Military District,
and later of the Caucasian Army.
Mikhailanda was ahead of the political division of an army later,
deputy head of political administration of the entire Red Army and still later head a political
administration of the by by low Russian and then of the Siberian military districts
Lev Berlin was commissar of the Volga military flotilla and later worked in the political
administration of the Crimean army and still later in that of the Baltic fleet you see in a pattern
here right everyone says political division these weren't necessarily
necessarily, you know, there were soldiers, sort of.
But these were ideologists connected to actual soldiers.
Political administration, again, as I said before.
And so it was their role.
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Yet how many outstanding characters acted at lower levels?
Boris Skundon, previously a lowly apprentice of Glockmaker Svardloff,
senior, successfully evolved into the military commissar of a division,
commissar of army headquarters, political inspector of front, and finally into deputy head
a political administration of the first cavalry army.
Avenir Kanukayev was commander of a guerrilla band, who later was tried before the
revolutionary tribunal for crimes during the capture of Azkobat and acquitted, and in the same
year of 1919 was made into political plenipotentiary of the turn.
Turk Commission of the all-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Soviet of People's Commissars of
Kaskar, Bukara, and Kiva.
Moses Vineski, Mishka Yaponchik, was a member of the Jewish militia squad of Odessa 1905 and later
a gang leader. He was freed from a hard labor camp by the February Revolution and became a
commander of a Jewish fighting brigade in Odessa, simultaneously managing the entire criminal
underworld of Odessa.
In 1919, he was commander of a special battalion, and later he was in charge of an infantry regiment of the Red Army.
His unit was composed of anarchists and criminals.
In the end, he was shot down by his own side.
Well, we've mentioned this before.
A true revolutionary group opens the prisons.
That was a case in France as well.
And this is obviously not a military man at all.
but I don't know how you can tell the difference between being a gang leader and being just an ordinary Jew,
especially one that's armed and fighting against the whites.
I think that the entire Jewish idea in Russia was up until this point was as a mafia group.
Military commissar Isaac Zalkovich was in command of a composite company of the Red Cadets
during the suppression of the Cronstadt uprising.
We can see extraordinary Jewish women in the higher Bolshevik ranks as well.
Nadezka Ostroveskaya rose from the head of Gubcom Party Committee of a Gubernaia,
the highest executive authority in a Gubernaya, of Vladimir Gubernaya,
to the post of the head of political administration of the entire 10th Army.
Rebecca Plastinina headed Gubrevcom and later the Gubcom of Archangel Gubernaya.
Is it proper?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you go on.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is it proper to mention here?
Cecilia Zeliksen Babrovskaya, who was a seamstress in her youth and became the head of the military
department of the Moscow Committee of the All-Russian Communist Party of Bolshev.
or take one of the theories of the revolution,
Eugenia Bosch, or her sister Elena Rosemirovich.
Or another thing.
The Soviets used a phrase core of red Cossacks.
Yet those were not Cossacks who embraced communist ideology,
but plain bandits who occasionally disguised themselves as whites for deception.
Those Cossack Corps were made of all nationalities from Romanians to Chinese with a full-blown Latvian,
cavalry regiment. A Russian, Vatali Pramakov, was in command, and its political department was headed
by I.I. Mintz by Isaac Greenberg in the second division, and S. Turovinsky was head of the
headquarters. A. Schillman was the head of the operative section of the staff. S. Davidson managed
the division newspaper, and Y. A. Rubinoff was in charge of the administrative section of the staff.
Since we began particularizing, let's look at the famous leaders of the Red Army at those never-fading names.
Vladimir Anzinoff.
Yeah, this is a whole list of names right here.
But I do want to comment on the Cossacks.
You'll hear or you'll read in every textbook that Nestor Machno, who's come up before, was a Cossack.
He never was.
He was never initiated into that.
He was not Orthodox.
Colac was a
the way they liked
to talk about themselves.
There were knights
and he was the very opposite of that.
And so this was
kind of the third front
that these fake Cossacks
in something they would wear the uniforms.
They'd show up to a Cossack white
or even just to a plain old white
gathering
and say we're going to go fight the communists together
and then turn on them.
You did have some, a little bit of diversity, but of course, these were all, you know, Russian, Ukrainian speaking peoples.
And, of course, had to be 100% Orthodox to be a member whatsoever.
So they used deception constantly here.
But you'll hear of the so-called Green Front, which I think is wildly exaggerated.
We've talked about that before, I think, or maybe on another show, that were these, you know, people like.
Nestra Machno who allegedly didn't agree with the Bolsheviks who also was was both a
headman of a of a Cossack corps as well as a as well as a you know I left this who wanted to fight
the whites and he did tremendous damage Macon did tremendous damage to the rear guard of the whites
he probably would have been you know purged as well but but the the the
fake red Cossacks, or that, you can't, Red Cossack doesn't go together. It's like,
like being a Catholic orangeman. It doesn't make any sense. It was simply for deceit.
Okay, I'm not going to read all these names, but I will read those, read the first sentence
in the last sentence. Since we began particularizing, let's look at the famous leaders of
the Red Army at those never fading names. It's like 15 or 20 names. Last sentence after the
name says, why couldn't they pull it off without Jews?
which are 4% of the population.
Now, if you ask, you know, if you ask a Zionist today or some kind of Jewish,
Jewish scholar, they'll tell you, well, because they have the highest IQs.
So obviously, that's how they're going to rise to the top.
Well, 4% is being generous, given the time period.
But so we're talking about, and in pretty,
much an entirely Jewish Red Army, bringing in Jews from all over the world, which was one of Trotsky's jobs.
And sometimes they changed the names. Sometimes they didn't.
It was a non-Russian. It was a violently anti-Russian group.
But Lenin was the man who gave the kind of the, he was a politician.
He would say that you're going to have land and we're going to have peace.
and he was lying through his teeth.
I've actually been through Lenin speeches at the time
saying that, well, you can't be a Bolshevik
and want to give peasants land.
That's private property.
They don't believe in private property.
So clearly there's some confiator.
They don't know what, you know, Bolivism is,
and we can't blame them for not knowing it.
This was a very new thing.
Or the propaganda was just that good.
And so whatever supporters they may have had were gathered in this very deceitful way,
they acted like they were going to, you know, they laid out whatever the,
whatever the audience wanted to hear London would say.
He didn't believe any of it.
And, you know, Trotsky was, you know, had this group of thugs at his disposal.
And I think that was how those two interrelations.
during the course of the Civil War and right afterwards.
Maybe address something here because I think some of our more Spurgy listeners
will take umbrage with you saying before that Lenin was part Jewish
but that his Jewishness had nothing to do with his revolutionary,
you know, had nothing to do with his beliefs.
And I think there's there are enough people who would spur out over that because, you know,
It's like, no, that's exactly why he was a revolutionary.
I don't remember saying that.
I don't remember saying that.
He had some Jewish blood in him.
That's true.
He was perceived, I think, the last name of Yulunov, he was perceived as basically a Gentile.
Clearly, he got along with Trotsky.
But his total, you know, his radically internationalist, I mean, the Jews,
Jewish was certainly a part of it.
But his family background's a mess.
They're from everywhere.
genetically speaking, he was a disaster area.
And that has something that absolutely has something to do with it.
The Judaism is certainly a part of it.
But he did not.
What I think what I said is that he was a minority.
He was a, at least at the time, a spokesman for a mostly Jewish group.
But he didn't see himself as a Jew, even though he had Jewish, Jews, Jewish, he always referred to the Jews as someone else.
You know, almost in the third person, he would refer to the Jews.
That's not the case with Tronsky.
There's always going to be a lot of controversy about that.
I know, I can spur out too on some of this stuff, you know, because what I do,
too. But Lenin didn't see himself as a Jew like Trotsky did.
Yeah, I think, I can't remember what book I read it in, but I think it was like right after October when they were trying to figure out who was going to be in charge.
Apparently, Lenin and Trotsky had a, there's reports that they had a conversation where Lenin told him that you're not going to be the head of Russia.
No Jew will ever be able to be the head of Russia even now.
Are you familiar with that?
Well, in the sense that he didn't want an obvious Jew to be the commander of a
or dictator of the entire Soviet Empire.
I could see that.
Yeah.
That's very, very bad optics.
There was one Jew who was, and that was the commander of the KGB just before Chenyenko.
He was only there for a short time.
Andropov, sorry.
He was the only Jew and the only Russian in terms of ethnicity that was ever a dictator of the Soviet Union was Gorbachev.
Because, you know, most of them were either Georgian, Ukrainian, or a mess that was Lenin.
All right, moving on.
Or take hundreds and thousands of Russian generals and officers of the former Imperial Army who served in the Red Army,
though not in the political sectors, they were not invited there, but in other significant posts.
True, they had a commissar with a gun behind them, and many served on pain of execution of their hostage families,
especially in case of military failures. Yet they gave an invaluable advantage to the Reds,
which actually might have been crucial for the eventual victory of Bolsheviks,
why just about half of the officers of the General Staff worked for the Bolsheviks.
Well, I mentioned that before. The Red took hostages, the White,
didn't have that capacity.
And so they were able to dragoon a lot of the former imperial officers, a handful anyway,
to do some of the strategizing.
But they had a gun to their head, sometimes quite literally, the entire time.
So they would never consider themselves to be like, you know, I got a Cornelov.
The Cornelov revolt, so-called terrified the left right after the February Revolution.
We cannot have an independent army whatsoever.
And we've seen this list of Jews who ran the political side.
That was parallel to the military side.
So the military side, you had plenty of Jews there too, but you also had former actual military officers.
Very few of these people had any military experience.
So people being put in charge of agriculture that didn't know what a farm was.
put in charge of, you know, mining.
They'd never seen a mine before.
Like I said before, if you, you know, if you're Jewish and a leftist at the time,
you just go to go to Russia during the Civil War.
You could be anything.
You could have any job you want.
You could be, you know, it was an incredible, destructive time.
But that's exactly what it was.
It was the Jewish hatred of Gentiles specifically.
The ultimate Goy, the ultimate Goyim, who were the Russians, especially the Eastern Slavs in general.
All right, let's do the next two paragraphs, and then we're going to start getting into the Cheka.
The second paragraph, I just read it, and it's, I want to get your take on it, but let's do this one first.
And we should not forget that initial and fatal susceptibility of many Russian peasants, by no means, all of them, of course, to Bolshevik propaganda.
Shulgin flatly noted, death to the bourgeois was so successful in Russia,
because the smell of blood inebriates, alas, so many Russians,
and they get into a frenzy like wild beasts.
Yet, let's avoid going into another unreasonable extreme,
such as the following.
Quote, the most zealous executioners in Checa were not at all the notorious Jews,
but the recent minions of the throne generals and officers, end quote.
As though they would be tolerated in there,
In the Cheka, in the Checa.
They were invited there with only one purpose to be executed, yet why such a quick temper?
Those Jews who worked in the Cheka were, of course, not the notorious Jews, but quite young and committed ones with revolutionary garbage filling their heads.
And I deem that they served not as executioners, but mostly as interrogators.
Yeah, this is a police force.
This is independent of the military apparatus.
you had older, you know, imperial officers in the, in the Red Army.
But as far as a Cheka goes, you know, in Czechos, I forget, I forget off the top of my head, it's for the defense of the revolution.
That's the name of it.
So this was a purely ideological matter.
And I'm telling you, the one thing that the Reds had over the whites was this single, simple, dishonest.
But single, simple, ideological focus that people can get behind.
And, of course, they didn't mean it.
But they realized, you know, there were just so much, their propaganda was so much better.
There was no such thing as white propaganda.
And I think there were, you know, and the monarchists had some of it.
But the main commanders like Danikin, they didn't have it.
They didn't understand it.
Nicholas II didn't understand it.
the Reds won at least in part because they knew how to psychologically approach a war
I mean how many Jews are there in the world I mean how many can they you know there were
a few million people fighting in this civil war well it may be reasonable because
this is where the overwhelming majority of the of the Jews lived of various ages but still
there's only so many of them.
And so, but the check, absolutely not, you're not going to see a whole lot of Gentiles there.
Red Army, you might, but that's the whole point of the political side of it, the political
officers.
All right.
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