The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 7

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

59 MinutesPG-13Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is a researcher, writer, and former professor of history and political science, specializing in Russian history and political ideology.Pete and Dr. Johnson continue a project in which Pete reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together," and Dr' Johnson provides commentary.Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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I'm doing very well. I got to do something about my shoulder, but I'm in a good mood. It's like three degrees out and sunny. So this is like my perfect day. All right. It's three degrees and sunny. Okay. We just went over 40 here.

So it's, it's balmy compared to the way it's been recently. They're saying it's going to go up to the 20s. So, you know, I'm just going to deny that for now. We needed some melt-off here anyway. We had central Alabama shouldn't have ice and we had ice. So, all right.

But that is true. All right, let's get going. We're going to pick up right where we left off last time. So here we go. The regulation of 1804 in its article stipulating the expulsion of the Jews from villages of the western provinces naturally posed a serious problem to the government. Where were they to be transferred? Towns and villages were. densely populated, and this density was accentuated by the competition prevailing in small

businesses, given the very low development of productive labor. However, in southern Ukraine, stretched new Russia, vast, fertile, and sparsely populated. Obviously, the interest of the state was to incite the mass of nonproductive Jews expelled from the villages to go to work the land in New Russia. Ten years earlier, Catherine had tried to ensure the success of this incentive, by striking the Jews with a double royalty while totally exempting those who would accept to be grafted to new Russia. But this double taxation, Jewish historians mentioned it often, was not real, as the Jewish population was not censored,

and only the Kahal knew the manpower while concealing the numbers to the authorities in a proportion that possibly reached a good half. As early as 1808, the royalty ceased to be demanded, and the exemption granted by Catherine no longer encouraged any Jews to migrate. Just briefly, New Russia is, in essence, where the current war in Ukraine is taking place. And it's no coincidence that this is somewhat close to the, because it's on the Black Sea, it's close to the old, Khazar Empire. I have paper after paper. I'm actually looking for some place to publish it on the new Khazardia idea because something like that was going on here. I don't know what he means by low development productive labor or really if this expulsion ever really took place and how it took place if it did. I mean, they'll say it did regardless either way. But it goes so far to show just how angry they made people that the government, despite, you know, not wanting to do it for the sake of peace and to remove them from the villages, that is to say, from the rural areas.

And the only reason they were there was to take advantage of the peasantry. Of course, they're in urban people. They've always been an urban people. But so this is, we're getting into a very interesting part of Russ. in Ukrainian history here. This time, and for the Jews alone, more than 30,000 hectares of hereditary but not private, but non-private land was allocated in new Russia with 40 hectares of state land per family. In Russia, the average lot of the peasants was a few hectares, rarely more than 10. Cash loans for the transfer and settlement, purchase the livestock

equipment, etc., which had to be repaid after a period of six years within the following 10 years, The prior construction of an Izba log house was offered to the settlers in this region not only the peasants but even some owners lived in mud houses. To exempt them of all royalties for 10 years with maintenance of individual freedom in these times of serfdom and the protection of the authorities. The 1804 regulations having exempted Jews from military service, the cash compensation was included in the royalty fee. Yeah, this is anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic Tsarist Russia here. Look at the privileges that they're not going to take it. But these were the privileges that were offered and existed until the end, almost to the end, really, 1905, in the pale of settlement. But to this day, they'll tell you that this was a prison house of nations like Trotsky in London wanted to say.

I mean, yeah, of course, the pale of said they took all the tax break. and everything else, but working the land, out of the question. The enlightened Jews, few at the time, Notkin Levinson, supported the governmental initiative, but this result must be achieved through incentives in no way coercive and understood very well the need for their people to move on to productive work. The 80 years of the difficult saga of Jewish agriculture in Russia are described in the in the voluminous and meticulous work of the Jew V.N. Nikitin. As a child, he had been entrusted to the Cantonists where he had received his name, who devoted many years to the study of the

archives of the enormous unpublished official correspondence between St. Petersburg and New Russia. An abundant presentation interspersed with documents and statistical tables, with tireless repetitions, possible contradictions, and the reports made it sometimes very distant. times by inspectors of divergent opinions, all accompanied by detailed and yet incomplete tables, none of this had been put in order, and it offers for our brief exposition much too dense material. Let us try, however, by condensing the citations to draw a panorama that is simultaneously broad and clear. The government's objective, Nikitin admits, in addition to the colonization program of unoccupied lands,

was to give the Jews more space than they had to accustom them to productive physical labor to help guard them from harmful occupations by which, whether they liked it or not, many of them made the life of the peasant serfs even more difficult than it already was. The government, bearing in mind the improvement of their living conditions proposed to turn them to agriculture. The government did not seek to attract Jews by promises. On the contrary, it endeavored that there should be no more than 300 families, transferred each year. It deferred the transfer so long as the houses were not built on the spot and invited the Jews, meanwhile, to send some of their men as scouts. Initially, the idea was not bad,

but it had not sufficiently taken into account the mentality of the Jewish settlers, nor the weak capacities of the Russian administration. The project was doomed in advance by the fact that the work of the earth is an art that demands generations to learn. One cannot attach successfully to the earth people who do not wish it or who are indifferent to it. This is one of the most significant paragraphs we've come across so far. And what stands out is the fact that this proves without question that Tsar's Russia, at this fairly late date, was not an authoritarian state. The state didn't have much power, especially in the countryside.

They couldn't do this. The level of totalitarianism that you would have to develop, I mean, we have it, of course. It's typical in post-maternity. That's going to have to wait for the 20th century. The empire didn't have the resources to do anything like this or maintain it once it was done. These enlightened Jews that he's mentioned,

I guess didn't bother to tell the administrators or the czar himself that they're not going to work the land in an alien place. you know this is a third or fourth time we've mentioned these enlightened Jews from Germany and even Russia they seem to be telling them you know half truth

yeah they supported this there's no way that they didn't know that this was they knew this was going to fail I refuse to believe otherwise so these enlightened Jews who you know the good Jews in the minds of the administration at the time

that they were playing a game themselves There's the next line. I'll read it for you. The journalist Orchansky considered Jewish agriculture. It could have been a success, but only if Jews have been transferred to nearby crown lands of Belarus

where the peasant way of life was under their control before their eyes. Well, the place wasn't the problem. It was the people. And yes, what you just read, that you just can't transfer somebody there and give them a hoe and expect them to know what they're doing.

So much of that agrarian mentality has been lost. The peasant knowledge of the earth was extraordinary. It was beyond anything any scientist could talk about today, but in a practical, non-theoretical sense. So there's a lot going on here, but it has nothing to do with the place. It has nothing to do with the administration or the attitude or the incentives.

Jews are not going to work a land until they go where they think they belong. But, of course, Zionism was a very minor, if it even existed at all at this point, it was very small. Group of people. But the only place that they're going to work the land, I mean, you did have a couple of Jews who did this. Many of them converted, you know, I mean, legitimately converted. But it's a small percentage. and for all of this discussion with enlightened Jews elsewhere, any Jew who knew anything would say this isn't going to work for a whole bunch of reasons.

The religious is just one of them. The 30,000 hectares allotted to Jews in New Russia remained inalienable for decades. Apostiori, the journalist IG Orchansky considered the Jewish agriculture could have been a success, but only if Jews had been transferred to the nearby crown lands of Belarus. where the peasant way of life was under their control before their eyes. Unfortunately, there was scarcely any land there. For example, in the province of Grotna, there were only 200 hectares, marginal infertile land,

where the entire population suffered from poor harvests. At first, there were only three dozen families willing to emigrate. The Jews hoped that the expulsion measures from the western provinces would be reported if it had been foreseen in 1804 that its application would extend on three years, but it was slow to begin. The fateful deadline of January 1, 1808, approaching, they began to leave the villages under escort from 1806 onwards. There was also a movement in favor of emigration among the Jews,

the more so as the rumor indicated the advantages which were connected with it. The demands for emigration then flooded en masse. They rushed there, as it were, the promised land, like their ancestors who left Caldea and Canaan. entire groups left surreptitiously, without authorization, and some even without a passport. Some resold the passport they had obtained from their other departing groups, and then demanded that they be replaced under the pretext they had lost it. The candidates for departure were day by day more numerous, and all insistently demanded land,

housing, and substance. It's pretty clear what's happening here. the czarist government had heard enough about their manipulation of the peasantry. So they built this what is a very bizarre plan to settle them in various places with free everything, including exemption from the draft. I think they were exempt anyway. And remember, we've gone back a couple decades. This is now prior to, several years prior to the invasion of Napoleon.

they're going to take advantage of the benefits, but they're not going to work the land. We just read that the Jews were not part of any census. I don't know if that was really ever the case, maybe the very early or very early 20th century. So there's no way to check who's where and who's going where and why. They didn't have last names. There was no way to, you know, there was no, like today,

everything is under surveillance. They had nothing like that. then. Plus, the very long distances, bad weather in the swamps, which is with a problem here in this part of Belarus, there was no way, even if you could make this happen, by force, there's no way you could maintain it. No one knew what was going on. However, they figured, well, this may happen anyway, so we're going to take advantage of all these benefits but not work to land. We're going to get all this stuff for free and not do anything and see what happens. The influx succeeded the possibilities of reception of the support office of the Jews created in the province of Kersan.

Time was lacking to build houses, de Guels, and the organizations suffered from the great distances in this region of the steps, the lack of craftsmen, doctors, and veterinarians. The government was indiscriminate of the people. The good provisions and sympathy toward the migrants, but the governor Richelieu demanded in 1807 that the entrances be limited to 200, 300 families per year, while receiving without limitation those who wish to settle on their own account. In case of a bad harvest, all these people will have to be fed for several years in a row. The poorest settlers were paid daily allowances. However, the governors of the provinces allowed those over quota who wished to leave,

without knowing the exact number of those who were leaving, hence many vicissitudes along the way due to misery, sickness, death. Some quite simply disappeared during the trip. distances across the step between 100 and 300 kilometers between a colony in the office, the inability of the administration to keep an accurate count and establish a fair distribution meant that some of the migrants were more helped than others. Some complained that they did not receive any compensation or loans. The colony inspectors, too few in numbers, did not have time to take a closer look.

They received a miserable wage, had no horses and walked on foot. After a period of two years of stay, some settlers still had no. No farm, no seeds, nor bread. The poorest were allowed to leave wherever they pleased, and those who renounced their condition as farmers recovered their former status as bourgeois. But only a fifth of them returned to their country of origin, and the others wandered,

the loans granted to those who had been scratched off the list of settlers, were to be considered definitively lost. Some reappeared for a time in the colonies. Others disappeared without looking back or leaving a trace. the others pounded the pavement in the neighboring towns by trading according to their old habit. I've read about this in other sources, especially Russian language sources, and no matter who's writing about it, it just gets dumber and dumber. I have no idea what these people thought was going to happen. There's no way. I mean, even if they weren't Jews, there was no way this was going to work. there's not the slightest doubt in my mind

that these people were able to use their, you know, the inability of the state to track them to get more than one loan, all these different subsidies that no one else was getting at the time. Of course, they went back to their old habits. It's all that they were going to do and they were going to take advantage of this very dumb plan to be able to do it without having to pay any taxes,

without having to, you know, really have any social service whatsoever except to themselves. no one really knows because it's very difficult to tell who went where and and of course they took full advantage of it this the more you read about it you know even if it was a success it was going to fail miserably because once they get there what are they going to do they even know the first thing about working the land that was beneath them and you know chances are if somehow by magic this would have worked out perfectly they would have figured out a way to get to get Orthodox peasants or Catholic peasants to work for them and just not report it and, you know, bribe people. I think that's what would have happened if this would have been magically successful. That's the best case scenario here. If this would have all worked out, they would have figured out a way to get to go on to do the backbreaking work. The many reports of the office and inspectors provide insight into how the new settlers were operating. To train the settlers who did not know where to start or how.

how to finish, the services of peasants of the Crown were requested, the first plowing is done for the most part through hired Russians. The habit is taken of correcting defects by a hired labor. They sow only a negligible portion of the plot allotted to them and use poor quality seeds. One has received specific seeds but does not plow or sow, another when sewing, loses a lot of seeds, and same goes during harvest. Some, due to lack of experience, they break tools. or simply resell them. They do not know how to, I mean, the jokes write themselves. It's not funny, though.

No. They do not know how to keep the livestock. They kill the cattle for food, then complain that they no longer have any. They sell cattle to buy cereals. They do not make provisions for dried dung, so their isbas, insufficiently heated, become damp. They do not fix their houses so they fall apart. they do not cultivate vegetable gardens. They heat the houses with straw stored to feed the cattle.

Not knowing how to harvest, neither to mow nor to thresh, the colonists cannot be hired in the neighboring hamlets. No one wants them. They do not maintain the good hygiene of their homes, which favors diseases. They absolutely did not expect to be personally occupied with agricultural labor. Doubtlessly, they thought that the cultivation of the land

would be assured by other hands. That once in possession of great herds, they would go and sell them at the fares. The settlers hope to continue receiving public aid. They complain of being reduced to a pitiable condition, and it is really so of having worn their clothes up to the rope, and that is the case, but the inspection administration replies, if they have no more clothes, it is out of idleness,

for they do not raise sheep, and sow neither linen nor hemp, and their wives neither spin nor weave. Of course, an inspector concluded in his report, if the Jews cannot handle their operations, it is by habit of a relaxed life because of their reluctance to engage in agricultural work and they're an experience. But he thought it fair to add, agriculture must be prepared from earliest youth, and the Jews, having lived indolently until 45 to 50 years, are not in a position of transforming themselves into farmers in such a short time. The Treasury was obliged to spend two to three times more on the settlers than is expected,

and extensions kept on being demanded. Rishaldu maintained that the complaints came from the lazy Jews, not from the good farmers. However, another report notes that, unluckily for them, since their arrival, they have not been comforted by an even remotely substantial harvest. This is everything I said in between the paragraphs before,

not realizing that this was coming. Once you know the Jews pretty well, you know what's going to happen here. They'd come right out and say it. The Jews who were a part of this didn't expect to be occupied with agricultural labor. But that was the whole point. They were expecting to scam.

You know, it's like taking a mafioso from Brooklyn. They were going to take advantage of the plan. They weren't going to do anything to in return, which was the whole point. The whole point was to get them to farm. You know, no one told them that this isn't going to. I can't imagine at some point someone had to have said something that Jews can't do this. Religiously, it's out of the question.

And even if it wasn't a religious issue, they have no background in this. You're not going to go from being a parasite to now working the land for much less money. I don't care how many taxes you don't have to pay. It's just shocking. And every time I read about this, I'm still shocked about how stupid this was. I don't think Drew suffered really much at all. I think they just said so,

but they took advantage of everything, you know, complained all the time. And they got more money as a result. At any given moment, they could have, you know, went to Constantinople or whatever

and got subsidies if they absolutely needed it. So I don't think they suffered really. But this is, I can't get over the idiocy of this plan. In response to the many fragments, communicated to St. Petersburg to signal how the Jews deliberately renounced all agricultural work, the ministry responded in the following way. The government has given them public aid and the hope that they will become farmers not only in name, but in fact. Many immigrants are at risk, if not incited to work,

to remain debtors to the state for a long time. The arrival of Jewish settlers in New Russia at the expense of the state, uncontrolled and ill-supported by an equipment program, was suspended in 1810. In 1811, the Senate gave the Jews the right to leased the production of alcohol in the localities belonging to the Crown, but within the limits of the pale of settlement. As soon as the news was known in New Russia, the will to remain in agriculture was shaken for many settlers. Although they were forbidden to leave the country, some left without any identity papers to become inkeepers in villages dependent on the Crown, as well as in those belonging to landowners. In 1812, it appeared that of the 848 families settled there were, in fact, only 538. 88 were considered to be on leave, parties earning their living in Kerasan, Nikolaev, Odessa, and even Poland.

As for the others, they had simply disappeared. The entire program, the authoritative installation of families on land, was something unprecedented, not only in Russia, but in the whole of Europe. The government now considered that in view of the Jews now proven disgust for the work of the land, seeing that they do not know how to go about it, given the negligence of the inspectors, it appears that the migration has given rise to major disturbances, therefore the Jews should be judged indulgently. On the other hand, how can we guarantee the repayment of public loans

by those who will be allowed to leave their status as farmers, how to palliate without injury to the treasury, the inadequacies of those who will remain to cultivate the land, how to alleviate the fate of those people who endured so many misfortunes and are living on the edge. As for the inspectors, they suffer not only from understaffing, a lack of means, and various other shortcomings, but also from their negligence, absenteeism,

and delays in the delivery of grain and funds. They saw, with indifference, the Jews selling their property, there were also abuses in exchange of payment they granted permits for long-term absences, including the most reliable workers in a family, which could quickly lead to the ruin of the farm. Yeah, there's going to be injury to the Treasury. That we know for certain. Even after 1810 to 1812, the situation of the Jewish colonies showed no sign of improvement. Tools lost, broken, or mortgaged by the Jews, oxen again slaughtered, stolen, or resold, field sewn late with, late while awaiting warmth, use of bad seeds, and in too close proximity to houses, always on the one and same plot, no groundwork, sewing for five consecutive years on fields that had only been plowed once, without alternating the sewing of wheat and potatoes, insufficient harvest from one year to another, yet again without harvesting seeds, but the bad harvest also benefit the immigrants. They are then entitled to time off.

livestock left uncared for oxen given for hire or assigned as carriages they wore them down did not nourish them bartered or slaughtered them to feed themselves only to say later they had died of disease the authorities either provided them with others or let them leave in search of a livelihood they did not care to build safe pens to prevent livestock from being stolen during the night they themselves spent their nights down to sleep For shepherds, they took children or idlers who did not care for the integrity of the herds. On feast days or on Saturdays, they left them out to graze without any supervision.

Moreover, on Saturday it is forbidden to catch the thieves. They resented their rare co-religionist, who, with the sweat of their brow, obtained remarkable harvests. The latter incurred the Old Testament curse the Hedham. For if they show the authorities that the Jews are capable of working the land, they will eventually force them to do so. Few were assiduous in working the land. They had the intent while pretending to work to prove to the authorities by their continual needs, their overall incapacity. They wanted first and foremost to return to the trade of alcohol, which was reauthorized to their co-religionists. Livestock, instruments, seeds were supplied to them several times, and new loans for their subsistence were relentlessly granted to them.

Many, after receiving a loan to establish themselves, came to the colonies only at the time. of the distribution of funds, only to leave again. With this money to neighboring towns and localities in search for other work, they resold the plot that had been allocated to them, roamed, lived several months in Russia, agglomerations at the time intense moments of agricultural labor and earn their living by deceiving the peasants. The inspectors' tables show that half of the families were absent with or without authorization and that some had disappeared forever.

An example was the disorder prevailing in the village of Israel Levka in the province of Kersan, where the inhabitants who had come to their own account considered themselves entitled to practice other trades. They were there only to take advantage of the privileges. Only 13 of the 32 families were permanent residents, and again, they only sowed to make it seem legitimate, while the others worked as tavern keepers in neighboring districts. Now I have a theory about this. I haven't written on it quite yet.

We've already discussed that many members of the Senate and the committees that both Paul and Alexander empowered to look into the Jewish question, there was already close economic times with some Russian oligarchs with the Jews as middlemen, especially those of Polish backwomen. that were now part of the Russian Empire. The more I read about this, the more I think that no one could possibly believe this would work.

Because even if these people had the best of intentions, there's no way to track them. So it's very possible that this was simply a scam, that they may have worked out to get a large sum of money, that they had no intention of paying back and all of these grants and then getting peasant labor from elsewhere to help them, quote unquote, with learning how to farm and all of this were not paying taxes or anything else.

I'm willing to believe something like that only because it makes me less depressed about the whole thing. Clearly, this is a scam. Right here, they came to the colonies only at the time of the distribution of funds and then leave again. And in the previous paragraphs, it said, you know, well, they don't know what they're doing. So let's bring peasants in to assist them.

I don't know where you could just transfer them or where they came from. But so they had non-Jewish peasant labor. This was a huge scam. And it's almost, you know, so either this was the most naive plan that was ever created or this was something worked out with some of the elites in the Senate, the oligarchs in the Senate, and many of those who knew the situation in Poland, profited from the situation in the old Polish Empire,

and they whacked up the money between them. It's got to be one of those two things, and I think maybe it may well be the latter. Is it safe to say that when you look at people like Victoria Newland, Robert Kagan, this guy, who was just, not only Attorney General Secretary of State Blinken, Crystal, all of these guys, people whose families come from the Pala settlement, that they look at this and they're like, this is why we have

such animus for Russia. And when you look, it's like they can't even take into account that their behavior was what caused so much of this. Yeah, I think that so many of the neocons, Russian Jews initial followers of Trotsky but when that split with Stalin occurred wasn't ideological Stalin was did the same thing

Trotsky did Trotsky just didn't have a huge bureaucracy to work with like Stalin that they ended up becoming anti-Soviet but that was always anti-Russian Russia is the symbolic

Rome in the Talmudic mentality. It has to be destroyed. The Soviet Union didn't count. It wasn't a part of that. It was for most of its existence, as we'll read here later, a very Jewish enterprise.

But, you know, I have never done this. I know there's a few people who have mentioned it, taking some of these neocons and tracing their family tree, seeing exactly whether they part of the anti-Zarist revolution or either the Mensovics or anyone else. But there's no way, you know, I think that that Machiavellian mentality sees this kind of charity his weakness. Let's us assume it wasn't a scam and there was good intentions behind this. Because Alexander could only do what his advisor said.

That was the whole point of the committees. And the Senate was created by Peter the Great for that purpose. It was appointed and very wealthy men. that if it wasn't a scam, Jews saw this as just, you know, the weakness, the ignorance was contemptible. And we, normal people would see it as an attempt to work out the Jewish problem, however naive it was.

Machiavellian is going to see it as in tremendous weakness. We could do whatever we want to these people. And there's going to give us more privileges. to think that that you know Zaris Russia just inherently hated Jews for no reason yeah you're exactly right

it was you know anytime in the U.S. and the Soviet Union cooperated economically almost all the time I have paper after paper on that you've read Anthony Sutton three volume work explaining in detail you know the U.S the West in general with the U.S.

in particular built Soviet industry it created and then rebuilt it after World War II. But then once it lost its profitability in the late 60s and early 70s, then they wanted to go to Israel. And all of a sudden, this anti-Semitic nonsense

was, you know, the anti-Zionist stuff in Russia or in the Soviet Union came into prominence. So I think whatever battles, with the Soviet Union existed. It wasn't the Soviet, you know, Trotky was not, never became anti-communist by any means. He didn't like Stalin. Trotsky was to a great extent of Jewish nationalist,

as people like Moses Hess before him were. And, you know, it wasn't ideology that separated those two. So what was anti-Soviet, at least in certain circles, was in fact anti-Russian. You know, it's the things. that are happening to Russia today, now that it's taken the nationalist and Eurasian point of view, would never have even been dreamed of against the USSR. There were no sanctions on the Soviet Union. Joe Biden himself, with Richard Lugar and a few others, from 1972 to the early 80s,

was traveling to the USSR working out different agreements. Now with Putin, they don't want to talk to him at all. They call him a murderer and everything else. So in other words, the gulag was perfectly acceptable to them. Nationalist Russia, that's something else. That has to be destroyed. And it's these very same people today. You mentioned Blinken and all the... Yes, there's definitely a connection.

I don't know why Leo Strauss get to put into there. Strauss didn't write on this topic at all, but I think your instincts are right. I don't know about the exact family tree, but for them to say that Russia, the Russian Empire didn't

like, you know, Of course, they could construe this as persecution, and yet the Pala settlement was the most privileged part of the entire Russian Empire. It is true that when you read the biographies, as I've done of many of the Jewish revolutionaries in the very early days of the Soviet Union, they are traced back to the Pala's settlement.

Upper middle class, merchant families, that's where these communists came from. They had no connection to the working class at all. and Leninism, of course, had no connection with workers. That was just a pretext. That had nothing to do with anything, nothing to do with labor at all. So there's definitely a connection here.

And I think the contempt for Russia came from this refusal to understand them. You know, this, how can you come up with a plan so stupid and expect it to succeed? Of course, Napoleon is going to, you know, change things. but at this point, there was no chance of this ever being successful. The numerous reports of the inspectors note in particular and on several occasions that the disgust of Jewish women for agriculture was a major impediment to the success of the settlers.

The Jewish women who seemed to have put themselves to work in the fields subsequently diverted from it. At the occasion of marriages, the parents of Jewish women agreed with their future son-in-laws for them not to compel their wives to carry out difficult agricultural labor, but rather higher workers. They agreed to prepare ornaments, fox and hair furs, bracelets, headdresses, and even pearls for days of celebrations. These conditions led young men to satisfy the whims of their wives to the point of ruining their farming. They go so far as to indulge in possessing luxurious effects, silks, objects of silver and gold, while other immigrants do not even have clothing for the wintertime. excessively early marriages make the Jews multiply significantly faster than the other inhabitants.

Then by the exodus of the young, the families become too little provided for and are incapable of ensuring the work. The overcrowding of several families and houses too scarce generates uncleanliness and favors scurvy. Some women take bourgeois husbands and then leave colonies forever. Judging from the reports of the control office, the Jews of the various commons, colonies continually complained about the lack of the steps. So hard to make so hard it must be plowed with four pairs of oxen. Complaints included bad harvest, water scarcity, lack of fuel, bad weather, disease generation, hail, grasshoppers. They also complained about the inspectors, but unduly, seeing that upon examination the complaints were deemed unfounded. Immigrants complained shamelessly

of their slightest annoyances. They ceaselessly increased their demands. When it is justified, they are provided for via the office. On the other hand, they had little reason to complain about limitations to the exercise of their piety or of the number of schools open in the agglomerations. In 1829, for eight colonies, there were 40 teachers. They just figured the more they complain, the more money they're going to get. It's almost like they realize that they have the state over a barrel here.

There's not enough. The inspection office was very small, probably very easily bought off. They already had laborers, you know, Christian laborers brought in from elsewhere. They were doing most of the work. Yeah, they were unfounded because they didn't exist. You know, poor Jews suffered, but they suffered anywhere. I'm assuming the basic Cahal system was just reproduced.

I can't say that for certain though. And that may have been one of the problems with this with this. Remember, there's only, there's not that many people here. Yeah, the number of families was, given the Jewish population of the Russian Empire, was very small. So they're ceaselessly increasing their demands. They just saw that, you know, the Goyim, they'll do whatever we say, and we can still take advantage of them.

However, as pointed out by Nicotson, in the same step during the same period, in the same virgin lands, threatened by the same locusts, cultivations by German colonists, Mennonites, and Bulgarians had been established. They also suffered from the same bad harvest, the same diseases, but however, most of them always had enough bread and livestock, and they lived in beautiful houses without buildings, their vegetable gardens were abundant, and their dwellings surrounded by greenery. The difference was obvious, especially when the German settlers at the request of the authorities, came to live in the Jewish settlements to convey their experiences set an example. Even from a distance, their properties could be distinguished. In the Russian colonies, the houses were also better than those of the Jews. However, Russians had managed to get into debt with some Jews who were richer than them and paid their debts while working in their fields.

The Russian peasants, Nicotin explains, under the oppression of serfdom, were accustomed to everything and stoically endured all misfortunes. That is how the Jewish settlers who had suffered losses following various indignities were assisted by the vast living spaces of the step that attracted fugitive serfs from all regions. Chased by sedentary settlers, the latter replied by the latter replied by the looting, the theft of cattle, the burning of houses, well received, however, they offered their work and know-how. as reflective and practical men and by instinct of self-preservation, the Jewish cultivators preferred receiving these fugitives with kindness and eagerness.

In return, the latter willingly helped them in plowing, sewing, and harvesting. Some of them, to hide better, embraced the Jewish religion. These cases came to light in 1820, the government forbade Jews to use Christian labor. Well, this just gets better and better. So you have people who are fleeing something, you know, the law or something like that, classically, this step was where you would go. I mean, many Cossacks were recruited that way centuries earlier. But they suddenly become, Jews become very tolerant.

Oh, this is perfect. We'll put them to work. And we'll even make them Jews just so no one can track them anymore. And of course, the implication here is that there's other settlers in these areas that did fine. But, you know, that's to be expected. but you know the example I think of when you're reading this is Sammy the Bull Gravano who was second in command to John Gotti he went to the witness protection program after becoming a rat to his boss and he was sent to Arizona and he was kicked out of the witness protection program because he became a drug dealer

in other words that's that's what he does he's a criminal He's not going to get a job at Burger King and work for minimum wage after living the life he did before. It's actually a very good, you know, illustration of what's happening here. No, he, that's what he is. That's what he does.

He doesn't know anything else. And the exact same thing is happening here and the scam and the Machiavellian thinking that we know of in the Talmudic mentality of the Jews today, this is where it really shows itself in such sharp relief. and the very fact that the state was trying to do this to help them is irrelevant because charity is construed by them as weakness.

Meanwhile, in 1817, the 10 years during which the Jewish settlers were exempt from royalties had passed and they were now to pay by the peasants of the crown. Collective petitions emanating not only from the colonists but also from public officials demanded that the privilege should be extended for extended for a further 15. 15 years. A personal friend of Alexander I, 1, Prince Galitzin, Minister of Education and Religious Affairs,

also responsible for all problems concerning the Jews, took the decision to exempt them from paying royalties for another five years and to postpone the full repayments of loans up to 30 years. It is important to note on the honor of the authorities of St. Petersburg

that no request of the Jews, before and now, has ever been ignored. we've said this already but I want to remind people that this Prince Gulitzen was a high-ranking Freemason. In fact, Freemasonry at this point had deeply penetrated the elite, at least up in the far north where St. Petersburg is and in the Senate. Golitsyn was a hedonist and yet was placed in charge of the church through the synod. and of course being a freemation was half Jewish to begin with and this was the guy that was put in charge of this at least the ultimate guy that was put in charge of this project

so now you know I'm starting to think yeah maybe this was a scam from the beginning because this is how these people operate among the demands of the Jewish settlers Nicotin found one which seemed to him to be particularly characteristic experience has proven in as much as agriculture is indispensable to humanity it is considered the most basic of occupations which demands more physical exertion than ingenuity and intelligence and all over the world those affected to this occupation are those incapable of more serious professions such as industrialists and merchants it is the latter category in as much as it demands more talent and education which contributes more than all others the prosperity of nations and in all periods it has been accorded far more esteem and respect than that of the agricultures. The slanderous representations of the Jews to the government resulted in depriving the Jews of the freedom to exercise their favorite trade, that of commerce, and to force them to change their

status by becoming farmers, the so-called plebs. Between 1807 and 1809, more than 120,000 people were driven out of villages and were forced to settle in uninhabited places. Hence their claim to return to them the status of bourgeois with the right attested in the passport to be able to leave without hindrances according to the wishes of each individual. These are well-weighed and unambiguous formulas. From 1814 to 1823, the farming of the Jews did not prosper. The statistical table show that each registered individual cultivated less than two-thirds of a hectare, as they tried to cut off the harshest work in the eyes of the inspectors, they found compensation in commerce and other miscellaneous trades.

Well, what Nikitin is either saying or reporting here, this may have been the mentality at the time, but of course it's a line. A tremendous amount of intellectual knowledge, maybe not theoretical knowledge, goes into agriculture. It isn't just a physical, labor. I'm just talking about, you know, farming per se, but, but running a household dedicated to farming and being able, I mean, you have to be a businessman there too. And it's always

a struggle. But it's not more serious, as he said, to become an industrialist or a merchant. Maybe you have to be more scheming. Maybe you have to be more Machiavellian. Maybe you have to be more devious to be a merchant. But for him to say or report someone else saying that that's somehow intelligence and makes it superior to agriculture and therefore, the Jews couldn't possibly lower themselves to this. This is typical of the mentality of the elite, especially in the Masonic orders in St. Petersburg, and it reflects the mentality of the Jews too. We have three quarters of a page before we come to a natural stopping point,

and that should probably take this up to an hour. Sounds good. Half a century later, the Jewish journalist, IG Archanski, proposed the following interpretation. What could be more natural for the Jews transplanted here to devote themselves to agriculture to have seen a vast field of virgin economic activity and to have precipitated themselves there with their customary and favorite occupations, which promised in the towns a harvest more abundant than that which they could expect as farmers? Why, then, demand of them that they should necessarily occupy themselves with agricultural labor,

which undoubtedly would not turn out well for them, considering the bubbling activity that attracts the Jews in the city's in formation? The Russian authorities at that time saw things differently. In time, the Jews could become useful cultivators. If they resume their status as bourgeois, they would only increase the number of parasites in the cities. on record 300,000 rubles spent on nine Jewish settlements, a colossal sum considering the value of the currency at the time. It sounds like money laundering. Oh, yeah.

A huge money laundering operation. In Ukraine? That never happens. In 1822, the additional five years of royalty exemption had elapsed, but the condition of the condition of the, the Jewish farms still require new franchises and new subsidies. The state of extreme poverty of the settlers was noted, linked to their inveterate laziness, disease, mortality, crop failures, and ignorance of agricultural work. I think what Orchansky is trying to say in a kind of a roundabout way is that, you know, we've talked about the naivete of the elite here. There's also a possibility,

I think they all knew exactly what the Jewish mind is, what the Kahal really was. They existed by non-productive labor, usury, rents, and monetized commerce in a way that no one else had done at the time in Russia. That had to end. Unrest was going to happen. Mass indebtedness was going to happen. We can't have that. But how they get from that fact that's actually. absolutely true to we're going to make farmers out of them and they're going to work the land.

That's where I can't make that connection. And that's why more and more I'm starting to think this really was a scam from the beginning. Golitsyn was a part of it. That these subsidies were just another way to manipulate the guillium, despite the fact that you did have poor Jews who are, you know, doing this, suffer. But they were suffering anyway. Nevertheless, the young Jewish generation was gradually gaining experience in agriculture. Recognizing that good regular harvest were not in the realm of the impossible, the settlers invited their compatriots from Belarus and Lithuania to join them.

All the more since there had been bad harvest there, the Jewish families flocked en masse. With or without authorization, as in 1824, they feared the threat of general expulsion in the western part of the country. In 1821, as we have already mentioned, measures had been taken to put an end to the Jewish distilleries in the province of Shernigof, followed by two or three other regions. The governors of the Western provinces let all the volunteers go without much inquiry as to how much land was left in New Russia for the Jews. Let's be careful. We have to remind ourselves that the Kahul already was willing to excommunicate anyone who did well. actually farming the land with their two hands.

We've read that already for the reasons we've already said. It's almost funny. That's going to make us all look bad and they're going to think that we could all do it. So anytime you have a successful farm, we put successful in quotes, it's almost guaranteed Christian labor

and the Jews are somehow able to bribe or manipulate the inspectors and they go back to Petersburg and say, oh, yeah, this family's doing real well. So either way, It's a scam. From there, it was announced that the possibilities of recession did not exceed 200 families per year, but 1,800 families had already started the journey. Some straight in nature, others settled along the way. From then on, the colonists were refused all state aid, but with

10 years exemption of royalties. However, the Caholam were interested in getting the poorest to leave in order to have less royalties to pay, and to a certain extent, they provided those who left with funds from the community. They encouraged the departure of the elderly, the sick, and large families with few able-bodied adults useful to agriculture, and when the authorities demanded

a written agreement from the levers, they were provided with a list of signatures devoid of any meaning. Of the 453 families who arrived in a neighborhood at Akaterina Slav in 1823, only two were able to settle at their own expense.

What had pushed them there was the mad hope of receiving public aid, which might have dispensed the newcomers from work. In 1822, 1,016 families flocked to the new Russia from Belarus. The colonies were rapidly filled with immigrants to whom provisional hospitality was offered, confinement and uncleanliness, engendered diseases. Also, in 1825, Alexander I prohibited the relocation of the Jews. In 1824 and 1825, following further bad harvest, the Jews were supported by loans, but in order not to give them too much hope, their origin was concealed, they supposedly came from the

personal decision of an inspector or as a reward for some work. Passports were again issued so that the Jews could settle in towns. As for paying royalties, even for those settled there for 18 years, it was no longer discussed. So it's not just the state here. wasn't able to go to the Cahal and just heard them to New Russia. Now the previous paragraph says exactly what was going on. The elders, the wealthy elders that Cahal just wanted to get rid of a lot of people they didn't want around anymore.

Those who weren't productive, maybe those who weren't particularly devoted, families that were overpopulation, they were trying to deal with it by getting rid of them. In the meantime, they get all of these subsidies along the way. and of course eventually it was abandoned nothing was done God knows how many rubles were spent I think some Jews did get wealthy off of this and yet the mentality

throughout Europe continued that maybe we could make farmers out of them it's you know and of course as you know the kibbutz in Israel yeah that's okay although they do use often foreign labor for that too

but as far as a foreign land goes, especially of all places, officially Orthodox monarchy, Russia, working to land was absolutely out of the question. All right. We hit a perfect stopping point, and we'll pick it up in a couple days. On the next episode,

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So I encourage you to do that. Of course, sir. All right. We'll see you in a couple days. Thank you very much. All right, my friend.