The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 72

Episode Date: September 20, 2025

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No pun intended. No pun intended with the stream. So yeah, I was at the onset of it. So I took half an oxy and was able to make it through my live stream. But yeah, I've been pain free for about two days now. And it seems to be X-rays seem to show it being clear. So, you know, just keep going forward. There's people who haven't had them.

There's people who haven't had them that you have no idea what we're talking about in terms of the severity of the pain that doesn't change. no matter what position you're sitting in or anything else. I can't describe it to you. It's the male version of childbirth. I mean, women get them too, of course. And it's not only is it the pain, but the nausea. I've only had one real serious bout with them. My father had them.

So they're absolutely a vile, vile aspect of our anatomy. or our diet. Yeah. Well, you know, I, I've always told people that I'm definitely not the kind of person to commit suicide. But, yeah, this is the kind of pain where you're like, you know, you're like, okay, well, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe it's time because you're just, it's just so unrelenting. Yeah, it doesn't matter. There's no, you can't do anything about it. It's permanent, no matter where you sit or how you stand.

It doesn't go anywhere. The noise is constant. And you've got to get to the ER or do something like that. The pain is just is beyond words. It was a nine, at least a nine for me. Yep. 100%. 100%.

I agree. So on that note. That note, here we go. Picking up where we left off last time. A Jewish deputy from the Lesser Rata attempted to ward off the growing tendency toward pogroms among Petliura's troops. Petlora's troops. We need to warn Ukrainians that you cannot found your state on anti-Semitism.

Leaders of the directorate should remember that they are dealing with the world's people, which outlived many of its enemies, and threatened to start a strutist. struggle against such government. Jewish parties quickly began to radicalize towards the left, thus inevitably turning their sympathies to Bolshevism. Now, I should note here that I think there's a lot of overlap between Orthodox nationalist listeners and people who are into this. I think there's quite a bit of it. But I released my last Orthodox nationalist was to clear up the Ukrainian situation roughly between 1917 and 1922 because it gets very complicated. And I started off by saying, you know, I was on this old's an instant thing. And there is such complexity that that I was talking

a hundred miles an hour, still didn't get the information out. I said, maybe I'll do a full show on it, just describing how it went, the basic structure of it, making some sense out of it. And so if this is very confusing and it should be. Please, it's out. Of course, it's out on Radio Albian now. Please go to it, listen to it, and hopefully it should help you in this era. This era has everything to do with what's happening in Ukraine today. That's why we're historians. We realize that, you know, nothing's ever really in the past. But I want to know beyond that. But Lura was a high-level freemason. directory was purely Masonic.

If there were any anti-Jewish actions, it was at the lower level. It had nothing to do with him. I quoted him. I've cited him a hundred times talking about how wonderful the Jews are. You know, that's what freemasonry is. And I also should note, if anyone has extra time, political leaders of Ukraine in this era,

If you look up their pictures, their official portraits, they seem to be going, there's a competition for who looks the coolest because they're in these like, you know, positions that we would consider cool, you know, you know, lounging and stuff like that, these looks into the camera. I've never seen any other group of leaders look like this before. I do recommend that. There's a huge competition there from these guys who looks the coolest. And there might be something to that because, you know, this is, photography became pretty normal around this point, even though it was the 19th century thing. And their own official portraits were, in fact, a form of propaganda, one way or the other. But we're at a point where the only chance that Ukraine had was under Hetman Skoropachian.

Now we're at the point of the directory. Ukraine was never the same again. And my position, my entire, you know, since I decided I was going to specialize in this many, many, many years ago, is that, yes, Russia, Ukraine or Moscow and Kiev, there are different ethnicities, although very similar, but they're different. Their languages overlap about 70% of the time. and if there's enough Ukrainians who have a, before the war anyway, there wasn't a huge amount of anti-Russian feeling, even in the West, that had to be created artificially. The only solution to the Ukrainian problem is what Belarus does.

It's what many leaders, including the Hitman himself, believed, what the great writer Gogol believed that, yes, Ukraine should be independent, at least the central and western parts of it, but in a very close brotherly relationship with Russia. Again, no different than Belarus. That was the only chance that Ukraine has or had, and the only man who supported that was the Hetman. Now, a lot of these guys were claiming to be,

Hetman to be, they were not. Pavlovskarapotsky was actually from Kostov background. that would be kind of a royal line the closest to a royal line that you would get in Ukraine is actually related to many there was another Ivan Skodapodzky

centuries earlier who he is related to the rest were just kind of self denominated the so-called phenomenon of adamantism but even you know as I'm trying to explain it

I went an hour and a half and it's still just such a level of complexity with so many moving parts I'm hoping if you go to that that you will there'll be at least some increase in understanding

of how complex it is but it does there is a certain it's not chaotic complexity doesn't mean chaos there is some sense to it and we're going to be talking about the Jews here and

the directory was a phylo-Semitic group. It was a because it was a Masonic group, at least at the higher levels. There were many Masonic lodges in Ukraine. The entire high level, which no real Gossack, you know, would have ever accepted. There were many of them.

And so, philosemitic mentality existed there. So whatever pogroms are going to claim, they claim programs all the time. But really, that's just another way of saying an anti-Semitic. communist resistance. Now, with the Bolsheviks are mostly Jews, well, certainly looks like a pogrom. We've been here many times before, but the only chance Ukraine had its survival, and I've mentioned it too, the white armies went to Skotapodhki for a loan. That's how successful this man was. He was rebuilding the Ukrainian economy. He had a pro-Russian yet independent

Ukraine recognized by most of the world rebuilding its school system and everything out the directory ruined all of that there was no good reason to overthrow this man he was a very good man probably had the coolest official portrait in my opinion but it's just the complexity makes it you know your eyes glaze over dealing with a lot of this but the simple point at this at this stage here is that the only chance Ukraine had for any kind of stable existence. And the whites were not helpful. They didn't like that. They didn't like an independent Ukraine at all.

Even if he was pro-Russian, he served in the Russian army, the guy. That wasn't enough. He wanted just a totally centralized Great Russia, which was a huge mistake. And it's one of the many reasons, many mistakes that the whites did that led to their defeat. So any of this nonsense, Jewish parties radicalizing to the left, no, they were there anyway. They had always been there and the directorate had nothing to do with it. You had a tremendous contempt for Jews in the old palest settlement for very good reason. But these were just anti-communist movements.

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incredible food and drink. My goodness, it's Christmas at the Guinness Storehouse. Book now at giddlestorhouse.com. Get the facts be drinkaware, visit drinkaware.com. Arnold Margoline, then Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, said that the situation in Ukraine was reminiscent of the world. times of Kemmelnetsky and Gunta. De Pazmanic bitterly noted that Zionists and Jewish nationalists supported the

directorates government for a while even when anti-Jewish pogroms raged across Ukraine. Quote, how could Jewish socialist forget about the pogromous attitudes of Petlora and other heroes of the Ukrainian revolution? End quote. How could they forget about the Jewish blood shed by descendants and disciples of Kemalnitsky, Gunta, and Zelizniak? And that's the end of the quote right there. Between December, 1918 and August 1999,

Patlura's troops carried out dozens of pogroms killing according to the Commission of International Cross around 50,000 Jews. The largest program happened on February 15, 1919, and Praskarov after a failed Bolshevik coup attempt. Quote, Jewish pogroms that went on nonstop from the very moment of Ukrainian independence became particular. ferocious during the period of the so-called directorate and kept going until the Ukrainian armed forces existed. Well, there you go. It's after a coup attempt. Now, the Red Cross, you know, I don't know, your Jews really can't use them as authorities because, you know, we know what they said in World War II. I can't really talk about it, but, but, you know, the directory was extremely agile. Let me put it that way, ideologically. They worked with whoever

they needed to. They didn't have the armed forces. In fact, they had a far inferior army to what the Hetman had. Many of the Hetman's troops simply left and went home when the directory came in. Of course, the Hetman himself had to flee the country, and I believe he died in Germany in 1945. I'm not sure about that, I think, in 1945. He died there. But these weren't this random, you know, I see a Jew on the street, I'm going to beat them up. That's not what's going on here. The communist movement was Judaic in one form or another. And any fight against them is going to look like a pogrom, but they were not.

S. Maslough writes, quote, true. In the Tsar's times, Jews were killed during pogroms, but they have never been killed in such numbers as now and what's such callous indifference. Sometimes during anti-Jewish pogroms by rebellious peasant bans, the entire Stettles were exterminated with indiscriminate slaughter of children, women, and elders. End quote. After the program is finished with their business, peasants from surrounding villages usually arrived on wagons, joined in looting commercial goods, often stored in large amounts in towns because of the unsettled times. All over Ukraine, rebels attack passenger trains and often commanded communists and Jews to get out. of the coach and those who did not were shot on the spot or checking papers of

passengers suspected Jews were ordered to pronounce cakerusa corn and those who spoke with an accent were escorted out and executed well let me put it this way you're familiar with the psychological phenomenon of projection right very much so yes you know the phenomenon is you have a vice or a problem internally that you can't deal with. You don't know how to deal with it. You're in denial about it. So rather than deal with it yourself,

you project it onto someone else. This goes for countries, this goes for ethnic groups, this goes for armies. I've been talking about this on my daily nationalists, especially, constantly, because everything that they're claiming

happened to the Jews here was actually going on, during the Civil War by Bolsheviks against Russian areas and will continue with far more vehemence after 1920. So it's almost a kind of deliberate misdirection. These people weren't singled out for no reason. Jews were overwhelmingly in favor of the Bolshevik regime. They were heavily armed. it wasn't indiscriminate

although I'm sure you know the masses may have done it that way but people finally got the message these are not friends and we know that they knew exactly what they were doing because if you were a carite or a Samaritan or one of these types of Jews that they had to be a Talmudist

everyone else was unaffected it was only the Talmudists that were affected and that goes for all of the thousands of times, repeat times that these people were kicked out of towns and cities and countries and empires. There's only that specific rabbinical group, no other form of Jew. So this is a kind of propaganda, which I think is a huge amount of projection, that the Western press was just writing down with big white eyes. Oh my God, really? and, you know, we still, it's still promoted us true today, to some extent, even by Soltonica.

American scholar Mueller thinks that, quote, the mass extermination of Jews in Ukraine and Bilo Rocia during the Civil War was by no means or results of articulated policy, but rather a common peasant reaction. Independent religious bands of Grigoryev Zelioni, Sokolov, Sokolov Zulovsky, Strzok, Angel, Tjotichinuk, Yatsyko, Wolnitz, Khosir Zirka, were particularly uncontrolled and because of this acted with extreme atrocity. However, Nestor Machno was different. No boy. The raging civil war provided fertile soil for the self-realization of Machno's criminals and

rebellious personality. We are not going to recount his villainous and clinical, clinically mad deeds in this work. yet it should be noted that he did not harbor anti-Jewish attitudes and that his anarchist communist followers loudly proclaimed their implacable hostility toward any form of anti-Semitism. At different times, a certain Aaron Barron was his chief of staff. Lev Zadov Zenkovsky was his head of counterintelligence. Volen Eckenbaum was head of Machno's adjut prop. Arshinov was his close advisor and one co-execkel.

Higin headed administration of Hiliapole, his capital. There was even a 300 strong separate Jewish company among his troops led by Taranovsky, and though at one point they betrayed Machno, nevertheless Taranovsky was later pardoned that even made the Machno's chief of staff. Quote, the Jewish poor joined Machno's army in masses, and allegedly Machno trapped and executed Adam and Grigoryev for the latter's anti-sempel. In March 1919, Machno executed peasants from Uspenovka village for a pogrom in the Jewish agricultural city Gorkio. However, despite his indisputable pro-Jewish stance, later in immigration in Paris, he was always in a Jewish milieu until his death.

His often uncontrollable troops carried out several Jewish pogroms, for instance, in 1918 near Akaterinislav, or in the summer of 19. at Alexandrovsk, though Machno and his officers rigorously protected Jewish populations and punished pogromists with death. You know, in the last 30 years maybe, Machno has massively increased in popularity in the academic world. They don't want to be seen strictly on the Bolivic side because of the Stalinist issue later on. They certainly aren't to be on the white side.

they created this kind of green side and one of the leaders of that was McNall now he wasn't Jewish as far as I know but this was part of his job he was allegedly an anarchist he claimed to be a Cossack even dressed up like one but he had no connection to it he was not whatsoever he was everything that the Cossacks hated

and he was well aware of the connection of the Jews to the Bolshevik or the Red Army. And by doing this, and he did this in the rear of the White Army, knowing that this is going to do a lot of damage to him, McNaw was a big part of the Red Victory. He didn't necessarily, well, he said he didn't necessarily agree with everything

that Lenin was talking about. And he probably didn't. He claimed to be some kind of an anarchist, again, claiming some semi-Cosec, a Kroog-like mentality, but he was no such thing. He was a mockery of it. And by doing what he did,

he did endless damage to the White Army. Talking about, you know, Jews and the Red Army, the Bolsheviks, you know, really talking about one thing in general. These attacks weren't done for no reason. These Jews were not helpless. These Jews were armed. They had been armed for generations now.

We talked about that months ago. They were not helpless accountants with glasses, you know, getting beaten up, which, you know, the literature would like to say. So over the last 30 years, you have this explosion of the green side, white, red and green, with Machno at the center of it. And, of course, what a shock. Machno was surrounded entirely by Jews and did their bidding. at every level. There's only one reason for that. And it's because he was well aware

that this would defeat the White Army and bring him by the victory of the Reds. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.

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The book aims to examine the role of Petlura's troops, the volunteer white army, and polls in the carnage of pogroms in the described period. Regular troops participated in pogroms in larger cities and towns as they marched, whereas independent bands acted in the hinterlands, thus effectively denying the Jews' safety anywhere. pogroms by Petlura's troops were particularly atrocious and systematic and sometimes even without looting, such as, for example, programs of Praskurov, Felchin, and Zitomir in February 1919, Ovirich in March, Trostanitz, Uman, and Novo Miragod, Grodod in May 1919. The worst pogroms by bands were in Smila, March 19199, Elizabethtrad, Radomschwi, Vapniarka, and Slovenko in May 1919, in Dubovka, June 1919 by Denikins troops in Fostov, September 1919, and Kiev, October 1919. In Belarus, there were programs by Polish troops,

for example, in Berosov and in the Bobrusk, Bruisk district, and by Polish supported troops in Bulak Balakovic, Turov, Petrkovov, Kapat Kewiczewski, and Gorad Yatitschi in 19, 1920, and 1921. Well, it's amazing. They can't get a break anywhere. I wonder why. Poles, Jews, Lithuanians, I mean, sorry, Poles. Ukrainians, Lithuanians, all these people. You know, this didn't happen for no reason, but no one seemed to notice how many Russians or Ukrainians were killed, or Poles were killed.

These were battles. These weren't pogroms. These were battles. Are you familiar with the phrase that the left likes to use Death Squad? Yes. It's extremely irritating. Only the left use it, and it's aimed usually at right-wing forces

under the military dictatorships of Latin America. Well, all they are, that's another word for the army, or at the most mobile units of the army, especially if they were successful. It's the same thing here. There's nothing special death squad. There were just armed forces.

It's the same thing in this case. The pogrom was just another battle. The Jews made their bed in this case. There were plenty of Polarmen. and there were plenty of Ukrainians and Russians killed in this in this respect. So no one had any sympathy for them at the time, the exception, of course, of Machno, the Reds, and the Western world. It's incredible how people get this picture in their minds of these towns with all these communities of Jews. and they picture like accountants and doctors and not the people committing like literal genocide right now over in Israel.

Yeah, and they were committing genocide at the time in Russia. Their friends were doing this in the Red Army. We're talking about almost near the end, you know, well, I should say the middle of the Civil War. they were bulldozing churches at the time. They were destroying peasant villages. And I think projection has a lot to do with it here. Jews are not innocent victims. They're not victims at all.

There's a reason that they were picked out. And yes, you're right. It's this image that people have of some peaceful Jew, you know, Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld was drinking his hand and a real cost that comes in and slits its throat. Oh my God, how could you possibly do that to Jerry? That's exactly.

And don't, it's funny, but it's probably what even many scholars have in their minds as to what happened. We know, I'll repeat it again, Jews were armed. They were extremely well organized, and they functioned as parts of the Red Army throughout. They weren't just neutral people. We're talking about the same area now as the All Paleil Settlement. every time that you had from Kimminski the great that he mentioned Ivan Gonta I have a picture of him over there

these were times of tremendous Jewish oppression of of non-Jews they just seem to have an inability to understand consequences you can't do this kind of stuff and expect nothing to happen and in class I distinctly remember this in class you go on and on about these pogroms apparently for no reason and in the background you have the exact same thing happening. The Jews are doing this to peasant villages and the church everywhere throughout the rest of Russia.

And of course, they're connected. He mentioned a little bit before. There was an attempt of Bolshevik coup, hence there's a pogrom. Well, that doesn't make any sense. When you say pogrom, it tends to imply it's just random. But it isn't. Because of this coup, they realized Jews were the ones who did it. And I have no doubt they went too far, but I don't think they went out and killed children.

You know, sometimes they went to it. Maybe if they had alcohol in them or something like that. But that wasn't the norm. Certainly on another directory. But the more important thing to realize is that the Jews were never, under any of these circumstances, ever innocent bystanders. They were not Jerry sitting there being funny and cracking jokes. And for no reason, one of these guys comes in and splits his throat because he's losing the war or something, whatever they came up with at this point.

Now, these are consequences for Jewish behavior. Ukrainian Jewry was horrified by the murderous wave of pogroms. During brief periods of respite, the Jewish population fled en masse from already pillaged or threatened places. There were indeed a mass exodus of Jews from Stettles and small towns into larger cities nearby or toward the border with Romania in a foolish hope to find aid there, or they simply aimlessly fled in panic as they did in Tettiv or Redomshi. Quote, the most populous and flourishing communities were turned into deserts. Jewish towns and Stettles looked like gloomy cemeteries.

Homes burnt and streets dead and desolated. Several Jewish townships were completely wrecked and turned into ashes. Vladarka, Bogoslav, a bunch of different, really, really difficult words to pronounce in other places. You don't have to bother you. Let us now examine the white side. At first glance, it may appear counterintuitive that Jews did not support the anti-Bolshevik movement. After all, the white forces were substantially more pro-democratic than Bolsheviks, as it was with Denikan and Rangel, and included not only monarchists and all kinds of nationalists, but also many liberal groups and all varieties

of anti-Bolshevik socialists. So why didn't we see Jews who shared the same political views and sympathies there? Faithful events irredeemably separated the Jews from the white movement. You did have Jews on various leftist movements that may have been anti-Bolshevik in their mentality, but not in their actions.

The Bolsheviks at this point, this is 1919, maybe 1920, the Bolsheviks were clearly their best bet. I mean, Rosa Luxembourg and people like that were condemning the Bolsheviks, but only later, only after Trotsky fled the country. So, you know, even today, all kinds of anarchists and weirdo communist groups, you have Jews and all of them. But here you have a life and death fight. So they went to the most militant and the most armed group.

which makes sense. It's part of why the Bolivics won. And he's right to talk about all of these, just this array of ideologies in the white fort. How could you win a war? How could you have a focus? When you have an army made up of all of these things, everything from cadet liberals to monarchists, it doesn't make any sense. And this is why people like Capelle, Keller, a whole bunch. bunch of others I've written about them at great length, formed their own white royalist units. At least then they had, I mean, they lost, but they had a certain focus. There was never any ideological focus in the whites whatsoever. And again, the constituent assembly, this magic word that they always throw out,

the Bolshek's didn't care about that. They didn't do exactly what they were going to do. They didn't exactly what they were doing it. There was no question about it. But throwing out a vague, no one's going to die for a vague constituent assembly or the right to vote in a future constituent assembly, multi-party, including communists. No, they need a cause that they can get behind. And the monarchy always remained popular. Keep in mind that so many of these generals were from the,

you call them, you know, white generals, they were part of the entente still, as if World War I was going on. and part of the provisional government. Not all of them, but they saw themselves as part of the Entente. Very naive of them, thinking that, you know, aid is going to come at any moment. But you had zero support from Jews to any white faction whatsoever. I'm sure you could find the occasional weirdo exception, you know, even today. But this wild kaleidoscope of ideological groups is, in my opinion, a huge part of the reason why they lost the war. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest.

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supported the white movement. On December 13, 1917, a merchant prince A. Alperin gave 800,000 rubles collected by the Jews of Rostov to A. Kaladin, the leader of Don Cossacks to organize anti-Bolshevik Cossack troops. I got to stop you right there. Yeah, that was please leave us alone money. They know that Cossacks were the creators of programs in the past. That's what the Don Cossacks did.

It had nothing to do with any ideological support. It's just leave us alone. They're paying protection money. Yet when General Alexa Scev, another white commander, was mustering his first squadron in December 1917 in the same city of Rostov and needed funds and asked, note asked, and did not impress. The Rostov-Nashivin bourgeoisie, mainly Jewish and Armenian, for money, they refused and he collected just a dab of money and was forced to march out into the winter with unequipped troops into his ice march. And later, all appeals by the volunteer army,

by the volunteer army were mostly ignored. Yet whenever the Bolshevik showed up and demanded money and valuables, a population obediently handed over millions of rubles and whole stores of goods. What? Sorry. When former Russian Prime Minister of the provisional government,

Prince G.E. Levov, begging for aid abroad, visited New York and Washington in 1918. He met a delegation of American Jews who heard him out but offered him no aid. Well, I don't know who these people are. who he's talking about here. It's pretty vague. The Bolsheviks didn't ask anybody anything.

But especially when they're talking about Jews, the Bolshek came in and said, we're your only hope. It is conceivable that in addition to protection money, giving money to the Cossacks may also be the Cossacks didn't want a, they just want an independent southern Russian country. They didn't want to take the whole country. to take over all of Russia. It was a huge problem. Now, I have an entire lecture on the ice march, which gets very complicated. It was a tremendous act of heroism. And in the wintertime, I have, it's a huge part of Russian military history. But when you have someone who actually had a national agenda against the Bolshevik shows up, all of a sudden there's nothing. And we hear

another bourgeois group, the Armenians. We haven't heard about them very much. How come they haven't been attacked? How come they haven't been just Jews? Of course, the Armenians were always pro-Russian. They were not the problem. They're pro-Russian now. They're pro-Russian then. They were pro-Russian 200 years earlier. So that just means it was ideology that mattered, not whether or not they were Jews. To be a Jew back then was to be anti-Russian, was to be a Bolshevik or something like that.

But I think it's very naive to talk about 800,000 rubles giving over to the Don Cossacks. And it wasn't something that was, you know, stolen from them. To organize anti-Bolshevik Cossack troops, that's absurd on its face. The Cossacks are cursed, they're spat on. by any jew who knows anything about history.

Yvongonta was a Cossack. Gimonitsky was a Cossack. The revolts were often against Jews in the Polish Empire. These were Cossacks. They would never give them a dime unless they had some other strategic issue in mind. Either it was just, don't kill us, or and or, we know that you're not going to fight for all of Russia. You have your little country way down the Don River,

that's it and this is something that affected the whites too the whites wanted to the cossacks sometimes didn't see the big picture because they were they were excellent um there of course they were all cavalry there were excellent fighters and we desperately need you and they didn't like leaving their their country you know their their region so to speak um and um and that caused a huge amount of problems. No, they fought for their own section and that was it. They had no national agenda. They had a Cossack agenda. Now, Alexiev is nothing to talk about. I mean, Alexiev was one of the people who forced Nicholas out. I think Alexiev was one of the people who wrote or dictated the fake abdication letter. He, you know, he supported the provisional state. So one of these, you know,

World War I guys who were just eventually wanted with Nicholas out. So they wanted the provisional government to win, not any kind of monarchy or anything else. But the difference is Alexiev was a, he had a full national idea that had this great Russia, singular great Russia. The Cossacks wanted their own territories and that's it. That's the difference. However, Pasmatic quotes a letter saying that by the end of 1918, more than three and a half million rubles were being collected in the exclusive Jewish circle with accompanying promises and reassurances of goodwill toward Jews from the white authorities. Despite that, Jews were officially prohibited to buy land in the Cherno Smorgaya Smoorskaya Gubernaia because of vicious speculations by several Jews, though the order was revoked soon after.

afterwards. Yeah, that's called protection money. Promises and reassurances. Yeah. And of course, they ruined even that. Here's another example from my sources. Again in Rostov in February 1918, when the white movement was merely nascent and seemed almost hopeless, an elderly Jewish engineer and manufacturer, i.e. Ang Gorodzky, who sincerely

considered himself a Russian patriot, literally pushed his reluctant students. son and two joining the white youth marching out into the night, embarking on their ice march, however, his sister didn't let him go. The Jewish Encyclopedia also tells us that the Jews of Rostov were joining Cossack guerrilla squadrons and the students' battalion of General L. Kornilov's army. You know, you're always going to have exceptions like this. You know, we know them now. We have friends, the two of us, have friends who are absolute exceptions to this. But all Also, it wasn't just the whites that seemed hopeless. The red seemed hopeless.

If this was just getting started and we've gone back a year or so, no one really expected the Reds to last long. They had their base in Petersburg, in a little bit in Russia, and that was about it. They had been defeated badly in, and of course, the Germans were still involved in this in parts of Ukraine, defeated the, defeated the Reds there. This isn't happening in a vacuum. So even if you were in a, you know, again, you do have legitimate Jewish patriots. I'm sure they weren't popular, you know, but partially they didn't think the red were going to win. And there was no guarantee that even if they did, no matter what they said that they were going to be any more, any better for their business than any other faction.

I think most people saw the chaos of this era. And don't forget and don't, don't, don't, always keep in mind PTSD here. For years now, Russians have only seen death and warfare, whether it be in World War I or now in their own backyard. They're seeing it constantly. So you see stuff like this. You see weird behaviors. They're a lot tougher than we are. course. But, you know, I, what I might do, I may just send you my article on the Ice March,

which is finished. And it could clarify some of these things. But yes, of course, you're going to have these exceptions. And I don't know, it's very difficult for me to picture KOSEC taking them in because in their constitutions, all of them, you have to be Orthodox to be a member. But, you know, when it's life, death anything's possible. In Paris in 1975, Colonel Loveton, the last surviving commander of the Kornilov regiment, told me that quite a few Jewish warrant officers were commissioned in Kerensky's times, were loyal to Kornilov during the so-called days of Kornilov in August 1917. He recalled one Katzman, a holder of the Order of St. George from the first Kutupov division. Yet we know that

many whites rejected sympathetic or neutral Jews because of the prominent involvement of other Jews on the red side, mistrust and anger was bred among the white forces. A modern study suggests that during the first year of its existence, the white movement was virtually free of anti-Semitism, at least in terms of major incidents and Jews were actually serving in the volunteer army. However, the situation dramatically changed by 1919. First, after the Allied victory in World War I, the widespread conviction among the whites that Germans helped Bolsheviks was displaced by a mythos about Jews being the backbone of Bolshevism.

On the other hand, after the white troops occupied Ukraine, they came under influence of obsessive local anti-Semitism that facilitated their espousal of anti-Jewish actions. Yeah, he's quoting someone here. Let's keep in mind. He's quoting a modern study. But the whites from the very beginning realized who their enemy was.

It wasn't necessarily my Jewish doctor up the street, but Jews in general had flocked to the red cause. It was a cliche then, and there's simply no getting around it. At the very least, you had the Jews around Makno. They weren't Bolsheviks, but they served the Bolshevik cause. people like this were a rarity

but it is an anti-Semitism and the study is correct to say it's on anti-Semitism when you're fighting a Jewish run Jewish-staffed Red Army it's not because they're Jews is because they're Bolsheviks

they're already showing what they're going to do to Russia if they win all over the place and the fact that the Jews can only think about themselves and their own situations as Russia is being bulldozed at the time just shows the mentality here, mentality that we're dealing with. So he is quoting, he says myth, that's not a myth, of course. But remember, the Germans, at the end of the war, the Germans couldn't help anybody.

The German banks were run by Jews who were taking money from Wall Street. Sutton goes through this in some detail from the Hoover Institute. So it's really the same group of people. There's no doubt we know who was supporting the Reds from the U.S. and everything else. So many captured Reds couldn't even speak Russian. You know, they were very Jewish. So, you know, and the Zionists were a different story. But I don't know if you're going to talk about them soon here in a little bit.

But I think the Zionists eventually went to, because they were, you know, followers of Hess to a great extent, that ends up supporting Lenin as well when it came right down to it. The White Army was hypnotized by Trotsky and Nkampkis, an agent of the Bolshevik Central Committee, and that caused the identification of Bolshevism with Jewry and led to pogroms. That's quoting somebody right there. The whites perceive Russia as occupied by Jewish commissars, and they marched to liberate her, and given considerable unaccountability of separate units, units of that nascent and poorly organized army strewn over the vast Russian territories.

And the general lack of central authority in that war, it is not surprising that, unfortunately, some white troops carried out pogroms, quoting AI Daniken, like some other leaders of the South Army, endorsed cadet, the constitutional Democrat Party and socialist revolutionary views and sought to stop the outrage as perpetrated by his troops. Yet those efforts were not effective. still you know these people still seem to be unaware of what bolshevik Jews are doing around the rest of Russia this is nothing I don't even know how you can have your constitutional Democrats even in existence anymore when you see who their enemy is now the author is right to say that it was you know nationed

basically poorly organized that's definitely true that never really changed stretched out over all of the vast Russian territories. That's also true. And general lack of authority, that's definitely true. And that never changed. Reds didn't have that problem. But there was no such thing as an anti-Semitic program. I'm sure, again, you always have the crazy exception.

Some drunk guy starts beating up a Jewish woman for some reason. I'm not, you know, but this was a war and Jews were the enemy. They were a huge part. I mean, we spent, for the last two months, talking about the Jewish connection to leftist violence. You'd have to be an absolute moron not to realize this at this point. Finally, Russians are realizing, but it is true that, I'll have to say, whites perceived Russia is occupied by Jewish commissary. Well, you know, Sultan Eaton will pretty soon give a little.

list of names of exactly who they are. We've already done that. Perceived. They definitely were. And they were just getting started. The difference between a battle and a pogrom here is razor thin. And I think it's mostly a journalistic distinction, especially in the Western world. Let's stop right here because we're getting, we're going to get like a, you know, say, hey, look, they did this and everything and then we're going to have a rebuttal by the top white general lampa about how a lot of this was exaggerated i think this is a perfect place to stop yeah yeah things you know when it comes to especially this this part of the country um things get very complicated this wasn't a simple white versus red two equal sides that is not how it worked the whites uh as it says they're right

were poorly organized. The commanders were very talented. That really wasn't the point. But they didn't have the institutions. They were spread out all over the place while the reds were largely focused. And especially now after World War I, Germans are no longer involved. Everything changes, especially in places like Ukraine. The money was flowing to the from Jewish sources in the U.S., so from the U.S. Sometimes through Germany now, it was just directly. But these were battles. These had nothing to do with just, you know, beating up Jews for no reason.

Yeah, and I'm sure that there were other groups who identities and ethnicities and that were touched by this. But, you know, you always have to ask the question is, how come this is the only group in history? that we're like forced to feel sorry for like you I mean every everywhere they went it was just abuse over and over again I mean you could say that you can say the same things about other groups that are you know that have moved through I mean I mean you can say it's just the the people don't understand how propagandized they've been I can't wait to talk to Kevin

McDonald because I've had people actually attack me and say, you know, there's no such thing as the concept of Jewish supremacy that doesn't exist. Like, are you fucking serious? Have you not ever known any? Got to know any? Yeah. Not from a Jewish area. And talk to them. And like have them get to be friendly with them for years and then just have open conversations admitting. Yeah, I mean, we feel like, we're better than you. I'm sorry. We just, that's the way we're raised. Oh, I guess my, I guess that's just anecdotal. Well, yeah, it's not much of an argument. But still, if you're from a, a Jewish area like I was, I think you were to some extent. You know, you, you had to socialize with you. I always got along with them on a personal level. That was strictly on a personal level.

as groups, especially my own town in Union County. You know, there was a very strict delineation between Italian and we were, I was Irishmen

were honorary Italians. We got along very well, but it was either Italian or Jewish. And, but that was only because, you know, the only reason that they didn't

want to commit outrages was if people would then hate them. You can't have this stuff in the press. So you couldn't talk like that. They believed it. But you couldn't talk like that. The Talmud talks about this at great length. Coming out and saying that we are the supreme race, that's something it's dangerous for them.

No one wants to, you know, or to act like that. It's getting harder and harder to hide, especially in 2025. And I always bring up the example of the Armenians. The Armenians are an excellent example because they were merchants overwhelmingly. They were Christians, but they were heretical. There were monophocytes. someone tried to tell me that they were in the Orthodox Church, they were not. They were monophysites at the time.

They're in communion with the Syriacs in the Indians and groups like that. They didn't accept the Council of Chalcedon. You had a handful of units. But were always treated very well. No problems, even though they were often very wealthy. They had the same mercantile reputation as the Jews, but they didn't take advantage. They were pro-Russian.

They recognized how well Russia treated them. They protected Armenia against the Islamic groups around them. Same thing for Georgians. The Georgians never really left Georgia. Armenians, and there was no pogroms against Armenians, except from Jews and Adeturk. But Armenians are the perfect counter-example. They had a very similar lifestyle,

and they weren't kicked out of it. anywhere. The difference has to be behavior and general mentality. Well, I mean, the Armenians have been abused and have been genocided, but by who? And by what leadership? I mean, there's a, there's a times of Israel article where they detail the Jewish leaders that were in Turkey, who were basically guiding the Turks at the time of the Armenian genocide. They can't help themselves. Every once in a while, they just brag about it. Yeah, it's true.

They can't. Every once in a while, it just spurts out. They don't want to say it, but it just comes out. But I guess to some extent, Armenians were a kind of competition, as were some of the old believers. The Armenians had the same crafty reputation, but not at the expense of other people. people, you know, not this massive, usurious organization. And so the only people who did abuse the Armenians were Jews or Jews and the Freemasons after the Turkish Revolution,

as you say. So they're an excellent counter example. And that's how you show that it's not just because they're Jews, which is what I was taught as a kid. You probably were. Most, of us were and but as we got older some of us said why and why not these other people and we got in trouble for it all right we'll pick up uh next time and i as i always do please go to the show notes and please go to the description of the videos uh donate to dr johnson's work and um yeah let him know how much you appreciate everything he's doing here so um as always dr johnson thank you very much talk to you in a couple days i'll see you my friend.