The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 77

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

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Not quite sure what to do with it after that. It flapped its wings. They let go. They went on the windowsill, and I just pushed it out, and I'm pretty sure it was fine. I looked back, and Susie Cream Cheese is taking the whole thing. in. You know, she's like being taught how to do this stuff. She's killer in training. And, but so, so when a mouse comes in, I pity any mouse that comes into this house. We've had, I think, 10 so far, not recently, but the bird, that's a one in a million, one and a million shot.

It was like the Dobs and fly. So that was the excitement just about an hour. hour ago. Awesome. Awesome. It's going to be great watching her, watching her grow up. Yep. All right, picking up where we left off last time. The Jews acutely realized the need to defend themselves, in part because the post-war Europe and America were flooded with protocols of the elders of Zion suddenly and virtually instantly. There were five editions in England in 1920, several editions in both Germany and France, half a million copies in America were printed by Henry Ford. The unheard-of success of the protocols, which were translated into several languages, showed how much the Bolshevik Revolution was believed to be Jewish. English researcher Norman Cohn wrote,

In the years immediately after World War I, when the protocols entered mainstream and thundered across the world, many otherwise entirely sensible people took them completely seriously. The London Times and morning post of that time vouched for their authenticity, although by August 21st, by August 1921, the Times published a series of articles from its Istanbul correspondent Philip Greaves, who sensationally demonstrated the extensive borrowing of the text and the protocols from Maurice Jolie's anti-Nopolion III pamphlets, the dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu 1864. At that time, the French police managed to confiscate every single copy of the infamous pamphlet. The protocols came to the West from a Russian overtaken by the Civil War. A journalistic fraud produced in the early 20th century in 1900 and 1901, the protocols were first published in 1903 in St. Petersburg. The mastermind behind them is thought to be P.I. Rukkowski, the 1884 to 1902,

head of the Foreign Intelligence Unit of the Police Department, their production is attributed to Matvey Golanviski, a secret agent from 1892 and son of VA Golavinsky, who was a member of Petrovskyi-Protrashvsky Circle. The latter was a Russian literary discussion group of progressive-minded commenter, intellectuals in St. Petersburg, organized by Mikhail Petrachevsky, a follower of the French utopian socialist Charles Foyer.

Among the members were writers, teachers, students, minor government officials, army officers, while differing in political opinions, most of them were opponents of the Tsarist autocracy and the Russian serfdom. Among those connected to the circle were Dostoevsky. Still new theories about the origin of the protocols appear all the time. Although the protocols were published and republished in 1905, 1906, 1911, they had little success in pre-revolutionary Russia. They did not find broad support in Russian society. The court did not give support to distribution either. After many failed attempts, the protocols were presented to Nicholas II in 1906, and he was very impressed. His notes on the margins of the book included, what a foresight,

what precise execution. It is definitely them who orchestrated the revolutionary events of 1905. There can be no doubt about their authenticity. Authenticity. But when the right-wing activist suggested using the protocols for the defense of the monarchy, Prime Minister P.A. Stalepin ordered a secret investigation into their origins. It showed they were a definite fabrication. The monarch was shocked by Stolleepin's report, but wrote firmly, removed the protocols from circulation. You cannot defend the noble cause with dirty means. And since then, Russian rulers' dismissal of the protocols of the elders of Zion came into force. No reference to the protocols was allowed, even during the Bayliss trial.

All right, well, most of the listeners know my opinion of this, and it's not really much of one. I actually went through the writings of those who were around major Jewish figures at the time, the Zionist Congress of 1902, Isaac Levinson, Schulman, M.A. Ginsburg, Abraham Mapu, Alfred Doblin, Honest Seegers, I don't know, Joseph Roth. They were the main ones, and their writings are not secret. None of them sound like the protocols, not even close to it. The first one, of course, was first line as Congress was Theodore Herzl, Jacques Bahar and people like that, Samuel Pinellas.

and it's just like I've said many times if I'm a Jew and someone says this is how my elite intellects write I'm going to be offended not what's in it but by that statement alone it's awfully written I am familiar with Jewish political writing at that period and it has no connection whatsoever to what's written in the protocols. The first and second Zionist Congress, frankly, they didn't agree on a whole lot. But really is a telltale giveaway, is the fact that it really doesn't bring up the major issues that the Jews were talking about at the time. It doesn't use any ancient Greek authorities because the author didn't know them.

it didn't bring up you know um um uh they were really their own authorities it didn't bring up um uh you know their future plans

except in the most crude possible way um and you know it's simply it can't be you know it's their writings at the time regardless of what they really meant

were quite sophisticated the learned elders they certainly existed and I mentioned a few of them and their writing is excellent. The person who wrote these didn't really know much about Judaism except from maybe a purely political point of view. But the truth is, of course, in general, what they were saying was true. But I didn't need protocols for that. No one needed protocols for that. Russia had plenty of writers, just asking included that was saying the same kind of things. Evola wrote on it quite a bit. This is kind of the

flat earth of the of the of the era. It's used to to hit us over the head with like a cudgel. People who oppose the theory of evolution get the flat earth thing that comes out of nowhere. I have a paper that I haven't published. It's called the McLevin of historical fakes, you know, the fake ID he has. You know, but they're also right. Maurice Jolie, the dialogues in hell, which was an attack on Napoleon III. It's an imaginary discussion between Montesquieu and Machiavelli. And Montesquieu, of course, represents justice, etc.

And it's pretty obvious. The plagiarism is pretty blatant. But there, it's meant to be crude. you know, Jewish writing, especially at that level, the Zionist Congresses, you know, they had a specific, even though they didn't agree on much, they had very specific, you know, issues involved. And none of it seemed to come up in the protocols. All these capital letters, whole sentences in capital letters, no one, you know, one of the ways I could spot a historical fraud pretty easily just by the fact that people don't, condemn themselves as evil in their own writings. It's it's loaded with these, you know, contradictions, make-believe formality, vague language, insults, bad history, non-existent economics,

high school level rhetoric. Any truth it contains is purely coincidental. If anyone claimed that I wrote something and produced a paper at that level, I'd be outraged. You know, this is supposed to be the intellectual elite of Jewish life talking like this. And it's not as common as it used to be, but in debates about the Jews, the protocols comes up, but only from them, whether I'm talking about a leftist or someone else, they say, hey, you probably believe in that. I say, I do not. Yes, some of the things that they point at are generally true, but I'm not sure why, you know,

why that got so much promotion since there were so many very competent writers saying the exact same thing about the Jews, including Jews, in a much more sophisticated way. So no one needed that. And it's a little embarrassing. I mean, you know, Nicholas was right. You know, yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, of course, there's some truth in it.

You know, to some extent, this was part of the agenda. But the elites at the Zionist Congresses didn't agree on a whole height of the law. So this was this was a this was a bit of an embarrassment and I know some people don't like that, don't like me talking like that, which that's too bad. I'm independent for a reason. And, you know, it's never to defend them. That sort of mentality is always there. Don't get me wrong. That sort of mentality is always there, but not in their elite writings.

And I think we've mentioned some of this before. But, you know, like, you know, you know, Sto Leapin, you know, you can't, as I think we said, you know, you can't defend a noble cause by dirty means. So Russia's, Russia generally dismissed it. It's a bit of a, you know, it's a shame. But if I was to create something like this, it would be, you know, I, at least I would know how to do it. you know the fact that they don't bring up any of their own sages Elcaro anyone like that but but more than anything else

you know there's it's not real all the fake quotes that you see from like Lenin fake quotes from Hitler from from Stalin you know you can go there's a whole page on fake quotes there's actually a book out on a fake quote and they're really easy to spot because every one of them, almost every one of them,

is self-condeming. We're going to slaughter this one. We're going to murder that one. We're going to, you know, it's like a bad action movie villain. And that's exactly how, what the protocol puts out. And after a while, I got sick and tired of people beating me over the head with it

as a way that you probably believe in this nonsense. Kind of like, you know, we were debating evolution and they bring up the flat earth. You know, it's very similar kind of, you know, they don't fight fair. They love this kind of thing. You're not going to learn much from it. However, finding the actual elders of Zion at the time, I mentioned a few of them, and finding their works, well, that's different.

See what they had to say. I mentioned a few works about the Jewish political future, written, roughly around that time. I can think of them off the top of my head now. And I said, well, yeah, I have them listed here. No one mentions that in the protocol. And, you know, other things like that. They, you know, it just, it wasn't written, certainly wasn't written by, by Jews. It was written by some sort of knew a little bit about Jews, but didn't like them, had a good reason not like them, but really didn't know how to, how to write like them. And ever since then, it's been it's been a problem um i'm just surprised it it had the currency it did that it got that this is

this is what the elite elders this is how they wrote are you kidding me their writings aren't secret you know they the stuff that they wrote at the time is available at least for most of them as far as i know and they didn't write like that now again i'm not saying that that sort of thing isn't in the back of their minds. Maybe it is. That's a different story. But in terms of, you know, and writing it down, yeah, they do think like that many times.

It's in the back of their minds, but they're certainly not going to write it down. For a long time, the Talmud wasn't written down. Or when it was written down, they use, you know, code words and symbols and things like that if it fell into the wrong hands. So I could go on and on and on about it. It's just, I think it's a little bit of an embarrassment. But I will say, again, that sort of crude thinking does exist.

It does exist in the mind of many Jews. Now, they're not going to call themselves evil, but they certainly will realize that they're taking over and they've done things that might be evil. But, you know, it's for Jews, so it doesn't matter. when I read when I first read them it was I was shocked I said people bought this so again the Jewish sages at the time who were at these conferences their writings are out there you could compare them anyway that's that's my that's my opinion and you had so many other great writers in Russia and Western Europe talking about the Jews no one needed the protocols to learn about what they were actually planning and what they thought of themselves and what

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You know, I could see it used as almost like a primer. For people who, you know, couldn't read, who don't have the, who couldn't read the level of scholarship of, of, of the actual learned elders, you know, who knew Plato and Aristotle. They knew Maimonides. They knew Cairo. It's difficult reading. This could be used, you know, this is kind of a summary of it in crude terms. I could see it being used as that.

Because in essence, that for the most part is true. I mean, the economics is terrible. Some of it doesn't make sense. And it's one thing that, and it's odd that, you know, who are they talking to? The learned elders are talking to each other? talking to each other or a conference they know they know this stuff are ready and they certainly don't need anyone lecturing them about economics and and taking over various industries so but I maybe they had a limited use as you know if this is your this is

your first you know you could you grasp it and absorb it quickly oh wait a minute okay maybe it's not real but do they really think like this and then you start reading more and you get to our stuff, oh my God, really they do. I could see it as a sort of a primer for people just getting started because so often these people, they wrote in a way that, you know, your college freshman would struggle with. So maybe that's the use that it had. And I think the White Army had that in mind. But as any kind of work of scholarship or something you could, you know, anything more than that? No. After the Bolshevik victory, the selling of protocols was banned in Russia and became a

criminal offense. But in Europe, the protocols brought in by the white emigration played an ominous role in the development of right-wing ideology, especially national socialism in Germany. Oh, boy. Exposure of the protocols as forgery and general denial of identity between Bolsheviks and Jews constituted a major share of liberal emigrant journalism of the 1920s and 1930s. We see several prominent Russians. There are Milikov, Radicev, Bertsev, and Kartashev. A. V. Kartashev, historian of religion, Orthodox theologian and at the same time, a public figure,

wrote about the unacceptability of anti-Semitism for a Christian in the pre-revolutionary collection shield, which I have often cited. In 1922, in emigration, he wrote the foreword to Wai'L. W. Yu Dulevsky's book on the Protocols. In 1937, Burtsev, too, asked him to write a forward for his book. Kartashev wrote in it, A man with common sense, goodwill, and a little scientific discipline cannot even discuss the authenticity of this police and journalistic forgery,

though certainly a talented forgery, able to infect the ignorant. It's unfair to continue. supporting this obvious deceit after it has been so unambiguously exposed, yet it is equally unfair to do the opposite, to exploit the easy victory over the protocol's authenticity to dismiss legitimate concerns. A half-truth is a lie. The whole truth is that the Jewish question is posed before the world as one of the tragic questions of history, and it cannot be resolved either by savage pogroms, or by libel in lies, but only by honest and open efforts of all mankind. Pogroms and slander make a sensible and honest raising of the question more difficult, degrading it to outright stupidity and

absurdity. They confuse the Jews themselves, who constantly emphasize their oppressed innocence, and expect from everybody else nothing but sympathy and some sort of obligatory Judeophilia. Kartashev certainly regarded debunking of this sensational apocrypha as a moral duty, but also thought that in washing out the dust of protocols from the eyes of the ignorant, it is unacceptable to impair their vision anew by pretending that this obliterates the Jewish question itself. Yeah, you see what I mean? Throughout the 20th century, you had modernist theologians in the Orthodox world who equated our understanding of Bolivism as, you know, mostly,

Jewish to the acceptance of the protocols. That's why this is damaging. It's why people will say, you know, your rejection of evolution and Darwin means you accept the flat earth. Now, I've heard that straight out on social media said to me, it's just a weapon. Of course, they realize it doesn't, they don't go together. But for people who aren't quite as intellectually honest as, as we try to be, the protocols just allowed them to say, okay, see, the protocols are nonsense, therefore, therefore,

their whole agenda is nonsense. And Jews are not involved, or at least only partially involved with Bolshevism and everything they say is, and the whites are wrong. And this has allowed liberals, especially, you know, moderate liberals, that type, to avoid and sidestep the question of the Jewish domination of Bolshevism. We all know, not just the Jewish domination, of Bolshevism, but the revolutionary movement in general, including its opponents on the left. And we talked about it in 1905, 1906, we talked about it even in Dostoevsky's time. Dostoevsky talks about it in detail in his diary of a writer in the 19th century, so late 19th century.

So, you know, the protocols is a weapon that our enemies tend to use. Now, I don't know what Cartashev really is, is refers to. I've read him before a long time ago. But I guess by legitimate issues, I don't know what he means. I don't recall precisely where he stood on that issue. But you have a lot of phylo-Semitism because, you know, you can't be a major public, you get major works published in a major publisher unless you're phylo-Semitic in America. And so you have these authors very piously.

I've responded to some of this stuff over the years with long letters that I know get attacked and all that. And of course, you know, they bring up the protocols and their response. They always do. Now, the last one I did was mostly about race. But you know what? It came up anyway. So this was just a way, almost like a sob, like a cough drop for them to soothe their bad conscience. yes, you know,

Jews everywhere in this movement. Oh, wait, look, these people believe the protocols. So, okay, all right, all right, let's calm down now. We know it's not true. And they could keep going. It was almost a way to deal with their cognitive dissonance, which most modernist orthodox have 24 hours a day. And that's something I wouldn't wish on anybody.

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A good half of Russian Jew re-lived in the newly independent states. New states trumpet their nationalism all the louder, the less secure they feel. These Jews feel themselves besieged by a hostile, energetic, and restless popular environment. One day it has demanded that there be no more Jews percentage-wise in the institutions of higher learning that in the army, the next, the air of everyday life becomes so tense and stressful that Jews can no longer breathe. In the self-determined nations, the war against Jews is waged by the society itself, by students, military, political parties, and ordinary people. I. Beakerman concluded that in leading the charge for self-determination, Jews were preparing the ground for their own repression by virtue of higher dependence on the alien society. The situation of Jews in Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania is literally tragic. Yesterday's oppressed or today's oppressors. What is more extremely uncouth oppressors, entirely unashamed of their lack of culture. This is one of the reasons during the Russian Civil War that the Western powers intervened, at least in the northern part, after the war was over.

Now, before the war was over, it was different. But after, so 1919, early 1919, part of their agenda was to defend these new republics, which economically, same thing occurred in the 90s. were almost immediately colonized by Germany and Sweden, Estonia especially. And they are, because they're so small, they're very dependent. Now, Jews, of course, were not oppressed by anybody. But I think, you know, when you have any kind of nationalism, there's nothing wrong with, you know, Lithuanian nationalism, nothing, nothing whatsoever. You find a lot of it in Belarus. that's not the point

and there is this weird rivalry between Belarus and Lithuania for that. They take up a lot of the same a lot of the same space but it can't be based on this you know my problems with Albanians, and Muslim Albanians anyway in the Kosovo issue

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to fly there I heard that from somebody I'm on a list I can never go there Anyway But it's very similar These tiny little countries Are used as ways to

hurt the larger one And same thing happened in 1991 In 1992 It had nothing to do with the Jews The Jews of course dominated these societies In terms of finance But any kind of ethnic nationalism

Even at that small scale they will notice that they do have a rival far more nationalist than themselves, and they may have to do something about it. Now, given the fact that they were under very close Western control, I don't know how much was done about it, because the West was not going to permit anything to be done to their social betters. But that was just a way self-determination, nothing. sense. These countries, you know, even Ukraine, you know, I'm finishing up, by the way, I should note my book on the Ukrainian War, the Russo-Ukrainian War of 2022. I'm finishing up. It's going to be out soon. And it's very difficult to see how an independent Ukraine would actually function.

As large as it is, it is still going to be dependent on somebody. It's going to be dependent on somebody. it's going to have all the Cossacks all the movements opposed to Russia in the past they all had to go to somebody the polls sometimes the Turks

Maseppa went to the Swedes I did my lecture on Skodipatsky who we've mentioned before on my Orthodox Nationalist show they condemned him because he was supported

by the German army in 1918 so what you know the other contenders for the power were dependent on either the Soviet Union or the entente. But that's how it is for countries like this. You know, so that was really the big issue. This was, and as far as the Jews were concerned, they continued to dominate finance and everything else. But it's always a balancing act.

You know, how much nationalism do you really want to promote? because nationalism usually means very strong families. It means low crime. It means, you know, comes from a place of social trust. And you start, you know, you begin having, you start looking at your opponent. Now, Jews need the opposite. The Jews need total chaos to thrive. And, you know, this is a reason why they pump pornography into the West Bank.

And they still do it. E. Michael Jones, back in 2001, led off his speech at our Barns Review Conference by mentioning that. What do you think they're bringing them freedom? No, we know what they're doing. We know what they're doing that. So this is a complicated issue. And it's going to be irrelevant pretty soon because in 1940, Stalin will reabsorb them. So it transpired that the breakup of Russia also meant the breakup of Russian Jewry as the historical paradoxically, the history paradoxically, showed that the Jews were better off in the United Russian Empire despite all the oppression. All the oppression. Yeah, all of it.

So now in these splintered border countries, Jews became the faithful guardians of the Russian language, Russian culture, impatiently waiting for the restoration of the Great Russia. Schools that still teach in Russian became filled with Jewish children, to the exclusion of learning the languages of the newly formed states. In these tiny countries, the Russian Jew accustomed to life in the open swaths of the great empire feels uncomfortable, squeezed, and diminished in his social status despite all the civil rights and autonomy. Indeed, our people's fate is bound up with the fate of the great Russia. All right. I got to say something here. Now, this isn't from Solstinistan. This is a quote.

You know, his quotes are long, and sometimes you forget that it's a quote. as far as I think it's still I, Bikerman, Ivann Bikerman. The Jews, given their survival strategies, we all know, wherever they are, they're going to find the minority that they could use against the majority culture, wherever they go. In Kazakhstan, the handful of Jews there created the Uzbek political movement. When I read that, I could, you know, wherever they go, it's the same thing here. They didn't give a damn about Russian culture or anything else, but Russians were a fairly small minority.

I shouldn't say fairly small. That's not true. But they were a minority in these places. So, as I said, so as, you know, these forms of nationalism, Lithuanian, Estonian, so they don't get too, too, too, strong and fight Jewish interests, they now are suddenly going to be very interested in the Russian language. They didn't give a damn about Russian culture because Russian culture is orthodoxy. It was just a contrarian aspect of this.

And in promoting the conflict between the Russians who were left behind and Native Estonians, you know, they could take advantage of that. So don't think, you know, this is, no one actually believes this nonsense except for this guy. Faithful guardian of the Russian language, Russian cult is utter nonsense. Unless you're saying it sarcastically, it just so happens that Russians were a minority here. I mean, look how quickly Jews suddenly supported Ukrainian nationalism. Of all things. Of all things.

One of the most anti-Jewish nationalisms of all. They're right up there with the Palestinians in the Cossacks here. You know, this is the Cossack territory. They're willing to do it to serve their interests of fighting a much larger power that they despise. And on a smaller level, it's the case here. So don't take this too seriously. Anyone who believes that to this extent is an idiot. But yes, it's true technically, but not for the reasons he thinks.

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politics was strong, especially in Paris, in particular regarding Zionism. Quote, in July 1922, the League of Nations recognized the World Zionist Organization as the Jewish agency, which first and foremost represented the interests of Zionists, and secondly of non-Zionists, and also provided support to the European Jews. Beekerman accused the Zionists of seeing a fragmented Russia as an ideal. This is why the organization of Russian Zionists called itself not Russian, but Russo-Ukrainian. This is why the Zionist and related Jewish groups so assiduously fraternized with the Ukrainian separatists.

No, nothing changes. It's really amazing. I think I just said that, but relative to today, you know, that Jewish money goes into the Azov battalion. Well, we know the real reason. I mean, some of their leadership is trained in Israel. and I've written on that before. But when I first heard that, when this all started, I couldn't believe.

Really? You know, they have no principles except for power. They're willing to do it for now. I mean, they've all been destroyed quite a while ago, but they're willing to do it. Zionist-related Jewish groups fraternized with Ukrainian separatists. Of course, they did. And in Russia, of course, they will join with anyone else who wants to split the country up. Of course, we know logically Jews, even from their point, if we were better off in United Russia, but in their fantasy land, these pogromes, everything else made it impossible for them to function.

You know, in their upper middle class lives, crying about how awful it was, while the typical Russian peasant, while doing fairly well, couldn't dream of that kind of a life. Maybe we didn't want that kind of a life. And certainly in Ukraine, where the peasant commune was not nearly as strong as it was in the rest of Russia. So it's this section, this few paragraphs here, this goes forward explaining the Jewish mentality. I don't even think Beekerman realizes it, realizes what he's admitting here. Plus, I love the fact that the League of Nations said that the Zionist agency represents Jews, whether there's Zionists or not. I find that very funny. But of course, settlement, you still had some settlement in Palestine here at this point.

We're in 1922, 23. It's going to take another World War, though, to create Israel. And it will be the Soviets who were the first to fashion it and recognize it at the UN. After the Civil War, Soviet Russia sent into a heavy silence. From this point on for decades to follow, all independent voices were squashed, and only the official line could be heard. And the less was heard from Russia, the louder was the voice of emigration. All of them from anarchists to monarchists looked back in pain and argued intensely, who and to what extent was to blame for what had happened. Okay, I got to stop him here.

I think he means intellectually. although the Smeistat was just getting started. Now, while peasant uprisings were at their peak around this time, they're going to continue straight up to the German invasion. They never stopped, and they were everywhere. You had people starving all over the place because of this ridiculous policy, collectivization, which Lenin began in Stalin completed. Their old ways of farming were destroyed.

They had to become engineers. See, London's idea was that the world should become one large factory. That's the final zenith of the Enlightenment. That's the final gnosis of what the Enlightenment was all about, a mechanism. So that means it isn't so much that they give it damp as peasants, but they don't need as many of them. Once they realize that these things can be eventually automated and that we're going to bring the factory. factory systems, factory methods into farming. You see that in the U.S. today.

Anything concerning GMO is right in that line. People who know nothing about farming are controlling GMO crops because they know something about chemistry and they know something about genetics. So, yeah, intellectually, only the official line could be heard after 1923 or so. So many had been killed. But peasant uprisings physically never stopped until 1941.

Discussion developed within emigrant jury as well. In 1923, Beekerman noted, quote, Jews answer everything with a familiar gesture and familiar words. We know we're to blame wherever we, whenever something. goes wrong, you'll look for a Jew and find one. 90% of what is written in the contemporary Jewish press about Jews and Russia is just a paraphrase of this stereotype. And because it's impossible that we're always to blame for everything, Jews take from this the flattering and at first glance quite convenient conclusion that we're always in everywhere in the right. But I don't know. I don't even know what he's saying here. They don't say that about

themselves. And certainly not at the time. However, consider, before the revolution, the Jewish society passionately argued that a revolution would save the Jews, and we still ardently adhere to this position. When the Jewish organizations gather resources in the West to aid their co-ethnic suffering in the USSR, they denounced, belittle, and slander everything about pre-revolutionary Russia, including the most positive and constructive things. See, the Bolshevik Russia has now become the promised land, egalitarian, and socialist. Many Jews who emigrated from Russia settled in the United States and pro-Bulchavic

attitudes spread quickly among them. The general Jewish mood was that Bolshevism was better than the restoration of monarchy. It was widely believed that the fall of Bolshevism in Russia would inevitably engender a new wave of bloody Jewish pogroms and mass extermination. And it is on this basis that Bolshevism is preferred as the lesser evil. you know, he's acting like there's this huge separation between jury and Bolivism. And there's not. It's true, you had many leftist groups similar to the Bolsheviks, but still in opposition to them. Some of them, you know, stayed and just made their peace.

Some of them did go into exile. The anarchists, you know, really couldn't make their peace with this. And coming to America, you know, they were the founders of every, you know, you know, Jews, this mass immigration of all of these leftists, of whatever type, completely altered American society. The Jewish mafia, especially in the 30s, well, the 20s during Prohibition, and in the 30s, they created later on, they created Las Vegas. you know, the communist movement was at its inception was very Jewish. You had other Gentile socialists before in 19th century, but, you know, they became very influential. Unfortunately, the white movement in settling in the U.S. was not nearly as influential.

Religiously, maybe, but that's about it. many Jews emigrating from Russia, the U.S., but the Jews overwhelmingly, and this was even more of the case after World War II, but at this point, there was a mentality, not quite literally, but that the Soviet Union was the promised land. If you weren't a Zionist,

I always thought that, you know, Israel, this little tiny country is always in trouble. You know, I think, now it's they tried to make eastern ukraine the promised plan that didn't work crime you it's not going to happen it's new york it's it's at least the eastern part of the united states right now uh that's what's that's you know there that's far more power there than you have in this little little country in in in israel uh so um you know and of course they do denounce belittle and slander everything about pre-revolutionary russia refusing

to see or to consider all the things and how they were actually treated by the monarchy. We've been through in this show for months now going through it, you know, at nauseam about how well they were treated, the money that was spent on them. They needed to create this fantasy land of these pogroms for no reason, which were, you know, completely in the imagination much of the time. that was their their starting point and that created a school of thought that exists in the academy today the frankfair school was a part of this train of thought they were Jews you know the neocons coming from trotty with different story but still the end result is the same and this notion fall of bolshev would lead to to bloody Jewish programs. Yeah, I, you know what?

It's kind of hard to say no to that. That would happen, you know, but it would simply be in retaliation for what the Jews and the Czechia had been doing up until that point. And that's why you had all sort, regardless of where they were on the spectrum, all types of spectrums,

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that's fine. Good. I'll lend this as I always do. Go to the show notes and donate to Dr. Johnson. go to the description of the videos and donate to Dr. Johnson, keep him flush, keep him unemployed, so that he can continue to educate us on this book and this subject that as a friend of mine, as a good friend of the show has said, was just laid out there waiting to be picked up and studied by somebody. And finally, you know, it's happening in a way that not only can people now understand what's in the book,

but even understand the history and the culture and the people who are part of this history. The most important part is always the people. Yeah, and that's sort of what my job is, and that's why this is working so well and why I'm having such a good time. Yeah, yeah, this is great. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. So I'll see in a couple days. All right, my friend, bye-bye.