The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 79

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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And Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I am joined by Stanley, who was sleeping next to me in his bed. I don't know if Susie Creamcheeds will be coming in, making an appearance. But if she does, I'm going to introduce her to everybody. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, I think everybody's looking forward to that. I know I am, even though I've just seen a picture so far.

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Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right, bud. All right. Page 401. Picking up where we left off last time. Of course, by the very end of the 20th century, we can easily reject these grim prophecies, if only as a matter of fact. Just as enough space has been found on earth for formerly Russian Jews, so a Jewish state has been founded and secured itself, while Russia still lies.

and ruin so powerless and humiliated. The warnings of the authors on how Russia should be treated already appear a great exaggeration, a failed prophecy. And now we can reflect on these words only in regard to the spiritual cord that so unexpectedly bound the two our peoples together in history. He's clearly talking about either the late 90s or the early 2000s for him to say that, you know, Russia's humiliated, et cetera, lives in ruin. It took Putin a few years to change all that.

So Solstinitin, you know, lived through the 90s and where Russia truly was humiliated. Quote, if Russia is not our motherland, then we are foreigners and have no right to interfere in her national life. quote, Russia will survive. Her renaissance must become our national concern, the concern of the entire Russian Jewry. And in conclusion, quote, the fate of Russian jury is inextricably linked to the fate of Russia. We must save Russia. If we want to save Jewry, the Jews must fight the molesters of the great country shoulder to shoulder with all other anti-Bolshevik forces. A consolidated struggle against the common enemy will heal the rifts. substantially reduce the current dramatic and ubiquitous growth of anti-Semitism. Only by saving Russia can we prevent a Jewish catastrophe.

Well, I understand what he means here. I like that first sentence. For Russia is not our motherland, it is not. Then we are foreigners who have no right to interfere in her national life. But if by some miracle, it has to be a miracle of God, absolutely a miracle of God, where the Jews would collectively repeat, the Talmud, but that would be a different story. And that would actually manifest in a change in behavior. You know, a huge portion of the contempt, the legitimate contempt throughout the years

would have no purpose. Now, again, only God could bring about a miracle that severe. And he's saying something somewhat similar, the Jews should also repudiate Bolshevism. And in In both cases, it's highly unlikely. Catastrophe. This was said 10 years before Hitler's ascension to power. 18 years before, here we go. Yeah, his boomer. I mean, he's silent generation, but there's a lot of boomerism that's going to be going on here.

18 years before his stunning sweep across the USSR and before the start of his program of Jewish extermination. Would it have been possible for Hitler to preach hatred of Jews and communists in Germany so easily and successfully? to claim Jews and communists are the same, if the Jews were among the most prominent and persistent opponents of the Soviet regime. The spiritual search of the authors of Russia and the Jews led them to prophetically sense the shadow of the impending Jewish catastrophe, though erring in its geographical origin and failing to predict other fateful developments, yet their dreadful warning remained unheard. Well, he's right. This was, I mean, you know, Hitler wasn't an ignoramus.

He knows war. He knew war from being in the trenches in World War I. And he really didn't want it. But it was because they were Bolsheviks or otherwise subversive on the left that his contempt started. And this is separate from their... But, you know, if the Talmud was repudiated, then Bolivism, would be repudiated and so would their business practices. So I think the Talmud is at the foundation of it.

Now, he's not saying that here. But he's hedging his bets. If the Jews of Russia at the time were to completely, as one man, reject Bolivism and fight it, that would be no, first of all, it would never have succeeded. and there would be no grounds for contempt based on that. And there would be no reason ever to invade it, which Hitler really didn't want to do. I think the sentence in there is, would it have been possible for Hitler to preach hatred of Jews and Communists in Germany so easily and successfully to claim Jews and communists are the same, I mean, which is basically something that no one wants to talk about in the modern day, that when,

You know, Hitler, he couldn't separate it because when you looked at communism and Russia, so much of the leadership was Jewish. Oh, or in Germany, for that matter. And Germany, especially, yeah, yeah. You know, those little statelets, he was elected to a brutal position. I know when I lectured on, I'll mindful say it now. when I lectured on the Third Reich when I was at university, I would start off saying this. Okay. I wouldn't say this was Germany.

I wouldn't say the time or the place. I'd say there's a country that has just lost a war. They've lost their best men. The economy has completely collapsed. A treaty has been imposed on them where they cannot industrialize. Everything is taken from them. They are humiliated in front of the world They don't have to be, but they are.

Riis have broken out into the streets between left and right. No one takes the politicians seriously, nor should they. Parts of your country have been torn off by this huge empire to your east. Your currency is worthless. Most of your industry doesn't function.

And I go on and on like that. And I say, okay, you'll just been elected, what do you do? And I'm sure I've broken brains with that one. Many of my students didn't know I was talking about the third right. The people who do have never looked at the third right the same way again. You have a country like that that he inherited, that he was elected to and make chancellor up, the condition it was in, where you had nothing, you had, you know, the Soviet Union was dying to destroy it. It was supposed to, the Versailles Treaty was supposed to turn the country into one big field. You have a, you had, you had badly wounded soldiers

lined up in front of clinics. There simply wasn't the material, the machinery to take care of them, or the money for that matter. Guys losing arms, guys losing legs. And this used to be the world's preeminent industrial power other than, other than Britain. That's what he took over. That's been my line for years. For decades, I've been saying that. You've just been elected. Okay, now what do you do? And of course, you know, it seems impossible. So it changes everyone's point of view as to the Hittlerian project in the 1930s.

And of course, I go on a lot more. There's a lot more things you could say about Germany in the 30s with the disaster that it was. And students don't really realize that, you know, especially freshmen, they don't know I'm talking about Germany. Now I'm talking about Germany when Hitler was elected. And they don't, they have no idea. They think it's just a normal country. And it certainly was not. Ready for huge savings?

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I mean, not only that, I mean, how many people realize that, like, you know, they complain about the night of the long knives? And, you know, there's a certain something there that, you know, these people that had helped you get to power. You're killing some of them and exiling others. But, I mean, they were already complaining that Hitler wasn't hardcore enough. He wasn't based enough. He was talking, he was making allies with people he shouldn't have been made allies with. And not to mention the fact that, I mean, you had a, that was basically an army in the street.

And you're living under a treaty that says, army can only have 100,000 men and they don't want to disband. I mean, people think that that Hitler took power and everyone just consolidated around him and was like, we're going to do anything you say, sir. They're hypnotized. Moving on. I'm not aware of anything else close to Russia and the Jews in the history of Russian-Jewish relations. It shook the Jewish immigration. Imagine how hurtful it was to hear such things coming from Jewish lips from within Jewry itself. On the part of Russians, we must learn a lesson from this story as well. We should take Russia and the Jews as an example of how to love our

own people and at the same time be able to speak about our mistakes and to do so mercilessly if necessary. And in doing that, we should never alienate or separate ourselves from our people. The surest path to social truth is for each to admit their own mistakes from each, from every side. that's one thing the Jews could never do. Sven and I went back, you know, before his own catastrophe, say that, you know, the Jews are a legitimate ethnic group. I don't care where they're from, ultimately.

And both subjectively and objectively, not necessarily in the Middle East, but they do have a right to their own state. Not in the way it's been done, certainly, and not at the expense of everybody else. and probably not in that neighborhood, but Jews have been a, should be a model. I'd love of your own people.

I mean, Jews are fanatical nationalists. They just hate it when anyone else is, unless that anyone else is serving their interest for a small period of time, like the Ukrainians today, or blacks in America or something like that, Uzbek's in Kazakhstan, as I've mentioned before. No, the ultimate.

nationalism is their own and they are fanatical even liberal jews tend to be heavily you know ethnically motivated uh we're just not allowed to be and they have to deal with that dissonance and uh and it's part of one of the biggest intellectual hurdles they have but as far as learning for mistakes no they haven't made mistakes except to you know not be jewish enough they're not capable of that kind of introspection. Having devoted much time and thoughts to these authors and having dragged the reader along with me,

I would like here to leave a brief record of their lives. Joseph Manasiewicz Beekerman, 1867 and 1942, came from a poor petty bourgeois family. He attended a cater, a cater, then a yeshiva, provided for himself from

the age of 15, educated himself under difficult circumstances. In 1903, he graduated from the historical philological faculty of the Imperial Nova Rocia University after a two-year exclusion gap for participation in student unrest. He opposed Zionism as, in his opinion, an illusory and reactionary idea. He called on Jews to unite without relinquishing their spiritual identity with progressive forces in Russia to fight for the good of the common motherland. His first article was a large tract on Zionism published in the Russian treasure, 1902, issue seven, which was noticed and debated even abroad. In 1905, he was deeply involved in the liberation movement.

He worked in several periodicals, son of the fatherland, Our Day, Rusko Bogotsvv, buoyant word, as an emigrant, he was printed in the Paris Vos Rosh deni when it was run by P.B. Sruv. Well, he's still, now he's quoted from Bikerman quite a bit.

And he's still a leftist. You know, he was fighting against the monarchy from 1905 onward. So he's a revolutionary, maybe in the Mensific sense, not in the Bolshevic sense. The Bolsheviks went way too far. You can't be burning down churches

and expect nothing to happen. This is why the Germans were seen as liberators when they came in, and with, especially in Ukraine. So, you know, progressive elements, liberation, movement, that means this means the left. But as far as Bolshevism, and of course, he's anti-Zionist, too, but that really wasn't a relevant issue in, at the time, we were still really in what in the mid-20s here that wasn't a huge issue um i don't know if he would think of it to think the same he died in 42 so would he have thought the same in 49 if you

live that long so i understand solzhenitin one to highlight these people but they're still not necessarily allies i suppose if if they're you know if if this is a life or death fight and he's on your side you're gonna you're gonna want to talk about him but um Otherwise, you know, he's still, you know, I leftist, he's still an opponent. Daniel Samoyevich Pasmanek, 1869 to 1930, was a son of Melamed, a teacher and a cater. I looked up cater real quick while you were speaking at elementary school. In 1923, he graduated from the medical faculty of Zurich University and then practiced medicine in Bulgaria for seven years. In 1890 to 1905, he was the freelance lecturer in the medical faculty at Geneva University.

He joined Zionist movement in 1900 and became one of its leading theorists and publicists. He returned to Russia in 1905 and passed the medical license exam. He participated in the struggle for civil rights for Jews. He opposed the Bund and worked on the program for Poile Zion. In 1906 to 1907, he was a member of the Central Council. Committee of the Russian Zionist Organization. He was a member of editorial boards of Jewish life and then of Rassvet. He wrote many articles for Evreski Mir Jewish World and the Jewish Encyclopedia. He published his medical works and specialized journals in German and French. Pasmatic was in Vienna

when World War I broke out in 1914 from where he, with great difficulty, managed to return to Russia. He joined the army and served in field hospitals until February 1917. He joined the cadets after the February Revolution. He supported General Cornelof and the White Movement. In 1918 to 1919, he was involved in the white government of the Crimea, was elected chairman of the Union of Jewish Communities of the Crimea. In 1990, he emigrated from Russia to France. In 1920 to 1920 and 1922 in Paris,

He, together with V. L. Bertsv, edited the white emigre newspaper, The Common Cause. Overall, he authored hundreds of articles and tens of books. The most notable of them include wandering Israel, the psychology of Jewry and dispersion, fates of the Jewish people, the problems of Jewish society, the Russian Revolution and Jewry, Bolshevism and Judaism, the Revolutionary Years in Crimea. What is Judaism? I think in this book, Solsternitin has cited from all of them at one time or another. His name has come up maybe more than anyone else. I get the impression that this man was more to the right than Beekerman was.

But when you say white movement, what does that mean? That does not automatically make you a monarchist. The white movement also would include defending the provisional government. which of course was, you know, preferable, of course, to the Bolshevik government, despite it being an evil group of people too. But he did absolutely expose the role of Judaism and in Bolivism and socialism. That's why most people haven't heard of him. These books are totally obscure to most people. especially the last few he exposed

that this is a Jewish movement and the fact that it's become a Jewish movement is a huge mistake for all the reason we've been talking about so he's really hard to dislike and we've been talking about him I've heard his name a hundred times since we've over the last month or so

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Terms apply for more info. Is sky.com.a.e. slash beads. Isaac Osopovich Levin, 1876 to 1944, was historian and publicist. Before the revolution, he worked as a foreign affairs commentator for the Russian Journal and for P.V. Struv's magazine, Russian thought. He emigrated first to Berlin. He was a member of the Russian Institute of Science, worked in the Rul, Ruski Zapiski, and in the historical literacy almanac Na Shuzoi in the foreign land. He regularly gave presentations, in particular on the topic of the rise of German anti-Semitism. He moved to Paris in 1931 to 1932. He was widowed and lived in poverty.

Among his works are emigration during the French Revolution and a book in French about Mongolia. During the German occupation, he registered according to his racial origins, as was required by authorities. He was arrested in early 1943 for a short time, was held in a concentration camp near Paris, then deported. He died in a Nazi concentration cap in 1944. Well, in 1944, of course, he died of typhus because by that time, you know, supplies were dwindling. You know, the Third Reich had, depending on when it was in 1944, a very short time left.

You know, did he really live in poverty? I don't know. but I understand why Sultanese wants to highlight these people. But the reason he highlights, the reason he could list them by name shows you how rare they are. Yeah, it's like the exception proving the rule. Yeah. Grigory, Gabriel Adolfovich Landau, 1877 and 1941, was son of the well-known publicist and publisher A.E.

Landau. He graduated from the law faculty of the St. Petersburg University in 1902. He wrote for periodicals from 1903, the newspaper Sunshine, Nash Den, Jewish Observer, Bodroslovo, Evresir, Vesnik European Herald, Northern Notes, and yearly Almanac Logos. He was one of the founders of the Jewish Democratic group in 1904 and the Union for Equal Rights for Jews in Russia in 1905. He was an outstanding cadet member of the Central Committee of the Cadet Party. In August 1917, he participated in the government conference in Moscow from December of 1917. He was a member of the Executive Committee of the Jewish Community of Petrograd. He emigrated to Germany in 191919. From 1920 to 1931, he was Ivy Gessen's deputy at rule. Apart from rule, he also wrote

for the magazine Ruskaya Meisel, the weekly Russia and the Slavs, the collection Shisla, I mean states, etc. He often lectured at emigre evenings in 1927 in the talk title, the Eurasian Delusion. He criticized Eurasianism as the movement contrary to the values of Russian history and leading to ideological Bolshevism. From Nazi Germany, he fled for Latvia, where he worked from, the Riga newspaper called Today. He was arrested by the NKVD in June 1941 and died in the Usulog camp near Solemask in November.

Among his works, the most influential were clownish culture in Nashdown, 1908, the article Twilight of Europe, 1914, when antedated, much of what would last bestow worldwide fame on Oswald Spangler, and later a book with the same title. Polish-Jewish relations on overcoming evil in the collection book the works of Russian scholars abroad, Berlin, 1923,

the Byzantine and the Hebrew, Ruskaya Missil, 1923, theses against Dostoevsky Shiaslaw, Volume 6. Epigraphs, much of what he wrote was dismissed by contemporaries. He was too conservative in spirit

to be accepted by progressive public, he was a sagacious thinker. I can't say I've read him, and I haven't read his thesis against Dostoevsky. I have a feeling what he was writing about. It was from Diary of a Writer. You know, Doste's got a lot to say about the Jews there. But he was a cadet, you know. And when the czar ruled, that was the liberal,

party that was a leftist party somehow during the civil war they became almost at least in london's mind became a conservative party they weren't they didn't like the czar either either these were not monarchist men um you know fleeing for latvia which is probably the stupidest idea you could have possibly had at the time of all places to go um the fact that he you know he was a cadet meaning he was anti-royalist. He was a liberal, but at the same time, he died in a gulag. They sent him there. So you've got to give him respect for that.

We could not find any substantial information about D.O. Linsky. He served in the White Army during the Civil War, or VC Mandel, active participant in Russian political life 1907 to 1918. He emigrated to Berlin and died in 1931. I don't know how literate, computer literate, Joseoniton was. Something tells me he wasn't very. And certainly he didn't have the access that we do. Had I read ahead, I would have done more work on that.

I'm sorry for that. I should have. But I think his point is made about these people. But the fact that he could list them by names, I mean, they still makes me laugh. But these were men of the left. who claimed to fame that they just didn't want to slaughter Russians and Orthodox people. That was what they were, you know, that somehow makes them, because they were all, you know, they didn't want to, the Bolshevism wanted to do that.

But the liberal groups didn't want to. They just wanted to brainwash them. So, you know, I suppose when you consider what Bolshevism was, these guys seem to be really great. but not in general terms. It's good to have them working for the white cause against Bolshevism, but I can't imagine that they were fighting for anything other than the provisional government. In other words, these guys were all Mensheviks. They were all the supporters of Kurenski.

Cornelov, of course, was supposed to be the representative of the Kurenski government. So, you know, that's not much of a resume. But I suppose it's better than, you know, wanting to just slaughter Russian Orthodox people and destroy the peasantry. But the fact that that's the standard is awful, is pathetic. And the Jews will never be able to ever look at themselves when it comes to this stuff, ever admit what they've done. And they'll bring up these guys. I hate these guys They'll bring them up

You know But they're not necessarily If their society were normal The monarchy ruled and everything else These guys would not be allies But when the Bolsheviks took over Lots of new allies We have

Not necessarily monarchists But we couldn't be Russians couldn't be pushing away Friends At the time I wonder what they're Jewish or otherwise But, you know, a few decades before, they would not be allies at all. These were all essentially liberals leftists of one kind or another who think that the Bolsheviks went too far.

And because Bolshevism is basically Judaism, it makes Jews look bad. That's what this all comes down to. They weren't monarchists, you know. As far as I know, they didn't convert to orthodoxy like Frank did and a handful of others that I know. you know, if they truly thought this way, that's what they would do. They would abandon their Talmudic life altogether and convert to the Orthodox Church. That would tell me something. You have a bunch of them in America.

And they're well aware. I mean, I learned about the Talmud from the great Don Rosenberg, who the Jewish convert, the Russian Orthodox Church abroad in New York City. He was one of my first, he was my first teacher. And he told me a lot. He was the first guy to tell me about the liberty. This is even before the internet came out or anything. You have plenty of them in America.

But at the time, you know, I guess their claim to fame is that they didn't want to murder every Russian Orthodox man they saw because it would make the Jews look. bad. That's essentially what it comes down to. However, you know, it didn't matter. I mean, the Bolshevik state continued until 1989. So, but, but Solton Eaton wants to highlight them. If someone were to say to him, well, they're not all like that, as if that's what he's saying, which is one of the stupidest arguments that any man could make, you know, it's just, you know, do I have to explain to you the difference between a group and an individual? And I do. quite often.

I'm not talking about individuals here, but he just wants to forestall that argument by enlisting these guys. And some of them, you know, they went to the gulag. You know, going to the gulag is, you know, that was a very Jewish thing. It was run by Jews. They sent him there, not him, the one before, this guy. I might say, Pazmanic. Right?

Or is it Well, anyway, I can't remember which one, but The guy I said who went to the gulag, you got to respect that. There's no question about it. And June sent him there. So that's something that's something that we can't ignore. And he's right to bring them up. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid,

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slander. That is absolutely not about becoming accustomed to anti-Semitism as claimed by some Jewish demagogues. The admission is vital for us. It is our moral duty. Jury has to pick righteous path worthy of the great wisdom of our religious teachings, which will lead us to brotherly reconciliation with the Russian people, to build the Russian house in the Jewish home so they might stand for centuries to come. I wish you would say who he's quoting here. You have to go all the way to the end of the chapter, or at least make them clickable. You know, there's an aspect of the Jewish psychology that can never understand wrongdoing. I've said this a hundred times, but it's shocking.

I've known about it for a long time. I know that even before I got into politics, I knew about it. Very difficult group of people. work with. So, but he's acting like you don't have to be afraid. Well, fear isn't the issue here. Russians have written and written and written and written and written on their role, introspection on their role in the Bolshevik Revolution, but you're not going to see this.

I'm not going to see this among Jews. It was not a Jewish movement. It had a small Jewish element to it. Everything else is Hitlerian, anti-Semitic nonsense. There were three authors quoted there, V.S. Mandel, D.S. Pesmanek, and D. O. Linsky. All three were quoted in that paragraph. But we spread storms and thunder and expect to be cradled by gentle Zephyrs. I know you will shriek that I am justifying pogroms.

I know how much these people are worth who thank themselves salts of the earth, the arbiters of fate, and at the very least the beacons of Israel. They, whose every whisper is about black hundreds and black hundreders, they themselves are dark people. Their essence is black, very obscene indeed. They were never able to comprehend the power of creativity in human history. It is imperative for us to make less of a display of our pain, to shout less about our losses. It is time we understood the crying and wailing. It is mostly evidence of emotional infirmity, of a lack of culture of the soul.

You are not alone in this world and your sorrow cannot fill the entire universe. When you put on a display only your own grief, only your own pain, it shows. Disrespect to others' grief, to others' suffering. Every once in a while you find one. You know, they'll write like this. That's Beacerman, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, but what I've heard of Beekerman so far, I've read him before years ago, he was in a collection of White Army

the other one too of white army essays I think I gave that book away hard copy but and he says a lot of you know it's what he said it must have said it there because it's very familiar to me that there's every once in a while you come across these guys you know they're one in a million but that just doesn't really matter it doesn't affect us they were right of course and this is why they're not

on the top 100 of your Jewish authors list today in the U.S. Well, it definitely goes to show that even when their own people are telling them to look in the mirror, they refuse to. Yes. So, I mean, they're not going to listen to us. It could have been said today and to all of us. These words cannot be obviated either by the middle. millions lost in the prisons in the camps and gulag, nor by the millions exterminated in the Nazi death camps. The lectures of the authors of Russia and the Jews that that year's National Union of Jews were met with great indignation on the part of emigrant in Jewry.

Even when explicitly or tacitly accepting the truth of the facts and the analysis, many expressed indignation or surprise that anyone dared to bring these into the open. See, yeah. I mean, this is, nothing has changed. How dare you? See, it was not the right time to speak of Jews, to criticize them, to determine their revolutionary misdeeds and responsibility, when juries just suffered so much and may suffer even more in the future, end quote. The collections authors were almost declared enemies of the Jewish people,

the abettors of reaction, and the allies of the pogromists. they're still thought of that way today. You know, amongst, let's just say American voters. Jews vote Democrat roughly 80% of the time. The other 20% are your fanatical Zionists who think that the Republicans will be more sympathetic to Israel than anyone else. And of course, they're right on that. But not for really any other issue. So, you know, you're talking about a tiny minority here.

And when one of them sticks his head up, you know, it's going to get, it's going to get shot off. Don Rosenberg, I mentioned, was Roy Cohn's, one of Roy Cohn's assistants in New York City. Roy Cohn, in fact, being a fag, was opposed to the gay rights bill in the early 70s in New York City. But he's not going to be seen as your typical Jew, not for a million years. And certainly not Don Rosenberg, who stopped being a Jew and in fact became a monarchist. That's why I'm a monarchist today is because of him. So that's a little different than what these other guys have been talking about. Don Rosenberg is a monarchist, nationalist, well, an anti-Semite.

yeah he would be called that the guys we've been talking about have not been or not the jewish tribune replied from replied them from paris a few months later quote the question of jewish responsibility for the russian revolution has hitherto only been posed by anti-semites oh god but now quote there is a whole penitent and accusative movement apparently quote we have not to we have to not only blame others, but also admit our own faults. Wow. Yet there is nothing new apart from the same old boring name counting of Jews among Bolsheviks. Too late.

Did Mr. Landau come to love the old statehood? Penitent Jews turned reactionaries? Their words are incompatible with the dignity of the Jewish people and are completely irresponsible. Especially offensive was this attempt to separate the popular anti-Semitism from the official one, attempting to prove that the people, the society, the country, the entire populist hates the Jews and considers them the true culprit responsible for all national woes. Just like those who connive the pogroms, they repeat the old

canard about the popular anger. Sometimes it descended into outright abuse. Quote, this group of Berlin journalists and activists, which has nearly disappeared from the Jewish public life by now, craves to put themselves into limelight again. And for that, they could think of no better way than to attack their own compatriots, Russian Jews. This, quote, tiny group of loyalists Jews are blinded by a desire to turn the wheel of history backward. They write indecencies, give comical advice, take on themselves the ridiculous role of healers

to cure national wounds. They should remember that sometimes it's better to stay quiet. this is what happens when when the Jews are confronted with this not from me not from you but from one of their own this is the the the tirade that you get so what's going on in their brain that causes this tirade I love that I love the name listing well there's no other way to do it the name listing that that's how you know who's in charge of what if I want to find on who's secretary of labor I got to go find the name they're just they're angry they know that you know they're basically right but they just don't want to be held to any responsibility here

although from the point of view of landau or anyone like that why stay jewish just convert at this point you're not jewish in their eyes i mean you're not a religious jew clearly why why do why stay jewish maybe they could have we don't really know he doesn't say but um but you see the anger this at this snarling irritation of the Jewish intelligentsia against some of these guys, Landau and others, this utter contempt and for saying what is pretty moderate, pretty basic statements. And we're just not allowed to list the names anymore, apparently. Well, you see it today, too. I mean, I have a friend Dave Smith who,

has been very critical of Israel. I mean, he doesn't take on the JQ or anything, but he's very critical of Israel. And Douglas Murray wrote an article in which he, in it, he said something like Smith, who is allegedly a Jew. Like, if you criticize Israel, you can't be a Jew. And this is being written by a British homosexual.

What a life. I mean, unbelievable. One sophisticated modern critic could find a better assessment for that collection than a severe hysteria. Both that attempt, quote, and their later journey are genuine tragedies, in his opinion, and explains this tragedy as a self-hatred complex. That's what do you mean. That's the hysteria that's going on in their minds, this cognitive dissonance that comes out in this vicious anger. and being called, you know, self-hating means you're weak, childish.

You know, you're not a Jew in the eyes of Jews when they start talking to you about like this. Or about you like this. Yet was Beekerman hateful when he wrote on his later tragic journey that, quote, The Jewish people is not a sect, not an order, but a whole people dispersed over the world, but united it in itself. It has raised up the banner of peaceful labor and has gathered around this banner as around the symbol of godly order.

I don't know how familiar with you or your listeners are within Turricarta and Rabbi David Weiss. I knew him. He was a friend of mine for a while. This is the big anti-Zionist Jewish organization, Orthodox Jewish organization. they went to the Iran Talmud, sorry, Iran Holocaust Conference. They were condemned by every Jew on the planet.

Their synagogue was burned down. And I think I've mentioned this before. I called them up. Oh, yeah, this is the JDO. JDL? No, the JDO. I could tell by the way that they were dressed and everything. So he did get a peek at them.

It's a miracle they weren't inside. So it would be the same thing. Now, at least they're of a very eccentric type of orthodoxy, but these other guys weren't. These guys were just plain old Jews. And Natura Carter is much larger than I thought they were. Because when the ADL tried to protest them right at their, before it was burned down, their big synagogue in Muncie, there was a huge number of them in the hats and everything else. I said, my God, where did these guys come from?

And I think a lot of these guys came from Jerusalem. And their whole line is, the Iranians are right. This country has to be taken apart piece by piece, for there to be any healing at all in the Middle East. Israel has no right to exist. Now, they'll also say that when the Messiah comes, it'll be a different story. But as of right now, Israel's nothing but a bane on the world.

on the world, and I've heard him say that a thousand times. But that's a fairly much larger organization than I thought that were. They became infamous over the years. But I knew a couple of them. I knew Feldman. I knew We protested together a couple of times in Washington, D.C. But in Turric Cartier has always put out some really good material on their point of view, what the Holocaust is.

what the programs were, and they were a huge part of my development many, many years ago. I was still with Willis Carter at the time. This happened. In fact, Rabbi Weiss spoke at one of our Barns Review conferences. I invited him to come over, and he had a big, excellent speech, and he had a big ovation. But at least there, you're an orthodox sect that goes back a long way. These guys don't even have that. You know, these guys should just convert and get it over with. However, it is not true that European or emigrate Jews did not at all hark to such explanations or warnings. A similar discussion had taken place a little earlier in 1922. In the reestablished Zionist publication at Osvet, the nationalist G.I. Schechtmann expressed his incomprehension

at how the intelligentsia of other nationalities could be anything other than nationalistic. An intelligentsia is invariably connected to its own nationality and feels its pain. A Jew cannot be a Russian Democrat, but naturally a Jewish Democrat. I do not recognize dual national or democratic loyalties. And if the Russian intelligentsia does not identify with its nationality, it is simply because until now, it has not had the opportunity or need to feel sharp pains over its national identity to worry about it.

But that has changed now. Now the Russian intelligentsia has to cast aside its aspersions to be a universal all-Russian intelligentsia and instead to regard itself as the great Russian democracy. Well, you see, today, that's the opposition to President Putin. And quoting Alexander Herzen here may be a bad idea because he condemned the monarchy long before the revolution. He's a 19th century figure and then figured I'm going to leave the country. I can't take it here anymore. And he went to Britain and he said, I want to go home.

I cannot handle the bourgeois mentality here. And he converted entirely. So now here's going to get read quite a bit as a liberal theorist. But not a whole lot in your typical university course. They're going to be talked about when he converted. When he changed entirely, when he actually went over there and lived. I think he lived in, I don't know if he lives in France too, but mostly in London. And he just, oh, oh, this is what the nationalists in Russia are talking about.

Oh, damn. All right, I can't. I don't like this either. And he came home and was a very different, no, near the end of his life. But so here's maybe a bad idea, but the great Russian democracy or the great Russian liberal, is really what they're talking about here. the bourgeois identity. This is, this is a regime.

This is, this is, you know, corporate capital today in 2025. And this is the opposition to, of Vladimir Putin, this is the opposition to Al-Qaiochenko. So, you know, maybe under Bolivism, they might seem like allies, but, but not today. We got one more paragraph, then we got a vibe shift. All right. It was difficult to counter.

The gauntlet was picked up by P. N. Milikov, though not very confidently. We remember, see Chapter 11, that back in 1909, he had also expressed horror at the unveiling of this stinging, unpleasant national question, who benefits? But now, this new awkward situation, and not a change in Milikov's views, when so many Russian intellectuals and emigration suddenly realized that they lost their Russia, forced Milikov to amend his previous position. He replied to Schachtmann, though in a rather ambiguous manner and not in his own highly popular post-ledni novosti, but in the Jewish Tribune with much smaller circulation to the effect that a Russian Jew could and had to be a Russian Democrat. Milikov treaded carefully, quote, but when this demand is fulfilled and there appears a new national face of Russian democracy, the great Russian,

Well, wouldn't Sheckman be first to get scared at the prospect of empowerment of ethnically conscious great Russian democracy with imperial ambitions? Oh, boy. Do we then need these phantoms? Is this what we wish to ruin our relations over? I don't know what he means. It's almost like now I hear the word. Is he saying that, okay, yeah, you're calling for, you're saying that, you're saying that. that every people should be nationalistic, but then they become nationalistic and that scares you?

Yes. That seems like what he's trying to say there. Yeah, then he becomes imperial. They become imperialist at this moment. And if Jews acted like any other minority group in the Russian Empire, nothing bad would have happened to them. I've listed them all, often very wealthy ones. I thought, no, but they, as we know, from reading this book from months ago, they, there's a reason that they were considered the enemy. There was a reason that they were, that, you know, that, that there was a great contempt for them, even today. Your average Russian has nothing but contempt for, for the Jew today.

I think now the Jewish population of Russia is 0.01% of the entire population. And there's a reason for that, by the way. You know, the Chabadniks are the only thing that that remains. And that's mostly an eastern Ukrainian thing, to whatever's left of it. So, yeah, I do think that's what he means. But of course, there's more to the story. It's, I get the impression that by intelligentsia, you know, and it's also neat to, and it said this elsewhere,

that intelligentsia often just means liberal. You're like your typical university profession. I don't know where they go. They tend to be left. I don't know why this is everywhere, even small schools, all that. So, yeah, empowerment of ethnically conscious great Russian democracy. I don't know where the democracy fits in there. But yes, then they have imperial ambitions.

In other words, they exist. Is that where you cut off? That's where I cut off. Okay, you seem to be, that seems to be abrupt. That's no problem. Well, that is, that's a good, that's a good place to stop because then we're, he's getting into the emigraves lived in an atmosphere of not just verbal tension. So he's going to get into some sensational, a sensational murder trial.

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