The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 82

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

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This is episode number 82. you. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I'm doing a lot better. I'm not quite 100%, but I'm very close. Unfortunately, you know, my big orange cat, Stanley has become somewhat famous over the years. His brother Marcel, Jet Black, has mouth cancer. So all, you know, it's just, but we're going to fight this thing. and I had good news too, but I forgot it. It's thought my head.

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We got it early. That's good to hear. That's good to hear. It's always, like, two months after I moved in here, my cat that, Calico that I had for 15 years. She passed and had to, she's buried outside the window right here. So, yeah, it's always tough.

We got three running around here right now, and two of them are, two of them are aged, and one is barely over one years old. So the, it's a lot of, it's a lot of fun watching the older one, try to keep up with the younger one.

Well, Stanley, you know, we get kittens. Stanley is very, for whatever reason, takes care of them. He's very paternal. And he, you know, does everything that a mother cat would do with them, almost everything, I guess. And he really has, he stepped up. He really, you know, one of his little sisters is deaf. And he, in his little brain, realizes that. This cat sociology is very interesting. And it's, it never ends. I'll tell you, these cats have more intelligence, a lot of people I know. They certainly have more use than a lot of people I know. They're cleaner than most, a lot of people I know.

You know, these are valuable animals to me. I know it to you too. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's jump in. Picking up where we left off last time. Even sharper changes gripped the economic life of the country. Baccarin publicly announced at a Communist Party conference in 1927 that during war communism, we purged a Russian petty and middle bourgeoisie, along with leading capitalists.

When the economy was later opened up to free trade, petty and middle Jewish bourgeoisie took the place of the Russian bourgeoisie, and roughly the same happened with our Russian intelligentsia, which bucked and sabotaged our efforts. Its place has been taken by some areas of the Jewish intelligentsia. Moreover, Jewish bourgeoisie. Moreover, Jewish bourgeoisie, and intelligence here are concentrated in our central regions and cities where they moved in from western provinces and southern towns. Here, even in the party ranks, one often encounters anti-Semitic tendencies. Comrades, we must wage a fierce battle against anti-Semitism. You know, you could, one of the things that drives me crazy about the Communist Party back then

and to a great extent even today that their use of generalities somehow labels substitute for knowledge. Yeah, they purged the petty minibus. I don't know why they would purge that petty bourgeoisie. Petty means, you know, very, very small business. I don't know how in any way that threatens the party. Something tells me that petty bourgeoisie means something else. Leading capitalists, well, not really, because leading capitalists were building the society at the time. I think that's just a code for powerful Russians.

Now, free trade, of course, he's referring to the new economic policy, new economic program, which certainly did, he's right to say that it did benefit the Jews. To a great extent, he's right, at least in that respect. The intelligentsia, he's talking about intellectuals. Many of them by now were gone. Many of them were in exile. But of course, claiming that they're sabotaging things, it's always a great excuse when things fail later on. He is right to say that their place has been taken by the Jewish intellectuals that are almost always on the left, at least relative to us and certainly relative to Russians.

And, you know, Bukharin was a very different sort of writer. but the one thing you're going to note, you know, I've read Soviet communist writings since I was with 19. And it says something without saying anything. And the reason for that are these crazy generalities, these huge groups they put a label on. And it doesn't refer to anything empirically. They're not really making any empirical statements here. But, you know, I did my dissertation on Michael Oakesha. the great British Higilian conservative,

a late Neo-Higilian conservative from London School of Economics. And the thesis that I dealt with to a great extent, my doctorate dissertation is online somewhere. My website has a link to it, I think. Because this language has no bearing on anything, when a revolutionary party takes over, they have to force it to mean something. And the relationship between these abstractions, like petty and middle Jewish bourgeoisie, petty bourgeoisie, you know, that has to actually take reality somehow.

It's one thing when it's words on a page. It sounds great, right? Not in Marxism necessarily. Or any theory really sound, you can make it sound rational. You can make it sound wonderful. I can make anything sound wonderful. You know, I think that's when I was a professor, that's what I did. That was part of my job.

But when you then take over a country, society is a bit more complicated. You have to force these words, so to speak, onto a society that already exists. And in this case, it doesn't even like you. Trying to make words real is the cause of, I mean, the very abstract cause of political violence. And the minute a theory on paper is actually imposed. it gets really dirty. It doesn't have any bearing on anything. And somehow these intellectuals were very happy living in this fantasy world where these labels actually meant something.

And we've already, as far as anti-Semitism is concerned, they will never define that. There's been, well, they actually did, but they're all over the place on it, depending on who you read. Lenin was bizarre. I think we talked about that already. I've done several lectures on the question. Remember what we said about how the early party defined it. Anti-Semitism generally was defined as anything anti-Soviet. So anti-Semitism was a way to attract, to which money, to his sympathy,

and hence a sympathy of Western governments while destroying their political opponents within the boundaries of the empire. And it's just, it's maddening to read these guys, refer to things like, you know, they never, these aren't empirical statements. You know, the middle, you know, of course, in some case, like middle Jewish boys, which took the place, Russian Bushville. Well, that's certainly the case. They were killed.

The NEP did create a bourgeoisie, but the only ones who were ever dispossessed later on tended to be non. non-Jews. Remember, we said during the Stalin era, Jews were never targeted as such, only because they were so dominant in the early party. Stalin enforced all the anti-Semitic laws on the books like anybody else. He believed in global government. He believed in a global language. I have the citation for that somewhere. I've published it a few times.

So this little paragraph here has a lot going on. and so that's one thing you need to watch out for when you read it you know there is nothing profound about what he's saying here labels seem to take the place of actual empirical knowledge Marxists don't really have to know anything they need to have the right ideological slogans at the right time and they rearrange the same abstract concepts depending on what they're talking about and really I want to punch them out just drives me crazy You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive.

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Relatives or sympathizers in the Soviet apparatus warned about pending arrests or seizures. And if he lost anything, it was just capital, not life. Cooperation was quasi-official through the Jewish commissariat of the Savnarkham. The Jews until now had been a repressed people, and that meant naturally they needed help. Laren explained the destruction of the Russian bourgeoisie as a correction of the injustice that existed under the czars before the revolution. And we use the phrase mental gymnastics. Sometimes we use the phrase special pleading. and that's what you have here.

This is a way, this is a really weird way of admitting that Marxism is Jewish. Certainly, Soviet Marxism is Jewish. Okay, how do we explain? Someone's going to note, you claim to be anti-capital, private capital, and yet here are these Jews with all kinds of wealth, serving the party without having to give up anything. How do you explain that? other than saying this is a Jewish party and this is really just about power. They have to say something along the lines, well, they're Jews, and because the Tsar's hated them with such intensity,

we leave them alone because they are in actual revolutionaries, and we'll do this because we're correcting some kind of an injustice. Now, we've spent an awful lot of time explaining how ridiculous that statement is that the Tsarer's policy throughout the 19th century placed Jews in a privileged position, and we know that. And it came to bite them, came to destroy them. Privately, of course, they knew what the Jews were, especially in the second half of the 19th century.

But they had a lot of money. And as we said 100 times, the state was in a rough position. So this is how they explained it. This is how they justified it. And so even just uttering the fact that you were, and I think the whole existence of this Jewish commissariat, you know, it's a Jewish party. What did they need a commissariat for?

This was a very careful way of making sure you had Jews who were able to point out Jewish areas, Jewish regions. So in purges or attacks, you left these people alone. I know we've mentioned the gold mine. Remember we talked about the gold, the goldilina gold mine riots just before the revolution. The Ginsburg family, of course, controlled so much of the gold mining in the Russian Empire. but when the Soviets nationalized it, they just took the same Gidsberg family and put them in charge of it. Nothing changed, except they're working for the state, which was Jewish anyway.

So absolutely nothing changed. But now Ginsburg can be called a proletarian. That's the logic of this nonsense here. When NEP, the new economic policy was crushed, the blow fell with less force against Jewish NEP men owing to connections in Soviet ruling circles. Bukharan had been speaking in answer to a remarkable speech by Professor Y. V. Kalushnikov. It looks like Kalishnikov, but it's Kalushnikov, a publicist and a former cadet. In December 1926, the professor spoke at a meeting on the Jewish question at the Moscow Conservatory.

We have isolated expressions of hooliganism. It sources the hurt national feelings of the Russians. The February Revolution established the equality of all citizens of Russia, including Jews. The October Revolution went further with the Russian nation proclaiming self-renunciation. A certain... Yeah. Oh, geez. Can you imagine?

That's the first time I'm hearing that. Okay. Self-renunciation, yes, we'll destroy ourselves. Oh, my God. All right. It's just basically you're not allowed to be Russian anymore, just like, you know, the, quote-unquote, West is not allowed to. to be white anymore or a Christian anymore or. The Russian nation, the Russian nation apparently is an object.

I mean, it is real opt-a, but in this mind, the October Revolution was the entire Russian nation saying that we were in the wrong through history, so now we're going to renounce ourselves. So they're claiming this has nothing to do with us. The Russian nation said this. This is insane. This is maddening to read. A certain imbalance has developed with respect to the proportion of the Jewish population

in the country as a whole in the positions they have temporarily occupied in the cities. A certain imbalance. Just a certain imbalance. Just a little imbalance. We are in our own cities, and they arrive and squeeze us out. When Russians see Russian women, elders and children freezing on the street nine to 11 hours a day, getting soaked by the rain in their tents at the market, and when they see relatively warm-covered Jewish kiosks with bread and sausage, they're not happy. These phenomena are catastrophic and must be considered. There's a terrible disproportion in the government structure in daily life and in other areas. We have a housing crisis in Moscow.

Masses of people are crowding into areas not fit for habitation. At the same time, people see others pouring in from other parts of the country taking up housing. These arrivals are Jews. A national dissatisfaction is rising in a defensiveness and fear of other nationalities. We must not close our eyes to that. A Russian speaking to a Russian will say things that he will not say to a Jew. Many are saying that there are too many Jews in Moscow. This must be dealt with, but don't call it anti-Semitism.

Yeah, I can't. The pressure here is being very careful. He's essentially, you know, warning, he's been warning at the party, let alone, you know, former cadet, meaning he was a liberal anti-royalist. Hooliganism is one of these words that they use to describe this irrational because all anti-Semitism is irrational. This is, you know, disorganized violence lashing out at anybody. What he's saying here is really became national socialist. They called it propaganda, but this guy is saying it's real. That here you have, in the Russian winter, you have Russian people who have been kicked out of their houses by

by Jews who have no problem watching them on the street suffering. This is why, you know, I say these aren't a normal people. If it was an individual doing this, you say you're a sociopath. Now you have a group of people doing it. Well, what do you call it then? The assumption that they're just any old citizen. And there was no citizenship in USSR. There was no concept of that.

That was a bourgeois, bourgeois notion. Now, he's got to be careful. He can't say too much. But he's essentially going to the party saying, you know, maybe you got to watch yourselves. Clearly, I don't think he's a Jew given his last name. I could be wrong, but I don't think he is. But you have this sociopathy, Jew showing up, throwing people onto the street, using the state to do it, moving into their homes and seeing them out their window,

suffering in the snow and thinking that's perfectly okay. this sort of thing and he's he's playing it down because you know this is 1926 he's got to be very careful what he says so he's playing it down in other words it's much worse than that at the time what do you say to a group of people from all over the country the overwhelming majority of the jews living in in in the boundaries of the of the soviet union or you know within a little while anyway they think this is perfectly acceptable and they're doing it all the time this is normal policy they're not a normal people and you can't treat them as such any other any other group unless you're just bitter enemies and even then these are innocent they're not bitter enemies they're they're ordinary people

that could look at this and say this is justice this is good this is a positive thing and then tell themselves some story there were programs 50 years ago that the czar is somehow organized against us and and therefore the kids could freeze out there there there are not a normal people. There's there's a short circuit in there clearly is a short circuit and empathy that says so long as Jews are doing okay, if there was a Jew out there in this condition, it would be a different story. But a group of people who have no problem doing this right out their window is, you know, we can't treat them as they're just anybody else. You know, you had Turks, you had Armenians, you had Germans, all who in certain circles had done quite well.

Never had this kind of discussion because they weren't a sociopathic people. But Russian Jews and nothing but sympathy outside of the Soviet Union too. I've been saying this. They function like a mafia organization. But I don't know even if a mafia organization would permit this to happen, especially when it affects women and children. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area,

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understandinginsurance.i. foreslash underinsurance. Brought to you by Insurance Ireland. My favorite sentence there is a Russian speaking to a Russian will say things that he will not say to a Jew. They always invert basically like that sentence should be a Jew speaking to a Jew will say things that he will not say to a Gentile. Oh yeah. That's very true. But Laran regarded Kalishnikov's speech as a manifestation of anti-Semitism saying this speech serves as an example of the good nature of Sovietism. saying, this speech serves as an example of the good nature of Soviet power and its battle against anti-Semitism because Kulushnikov was roundly criticized by speakers who followed at the same meeting, but no administrative measures were taken against him.

Here it is, the frustration of the communist activist. Agurski writes, One would expect repression to swiftly follow for such a speech in the 20s and 30s, but Kallyshnikov got off. Maybe he received secret support from some quarters. but why look for secret causes? It would have been too much of a scandal to punish such a famous famous publicist who just returned from abroad and could have harmed a reverse migration that was so important for Soviet authorities. The 20s were spoken.

You want to deal with that? Nothing. Yeah, well, I don't know how to deal with it other than sarcasm. Clearly what the man said was perfectly normal, even in the Soviet environment. But the very fact that he even brought up this issue, and people are saying, my God, why is this guy not in prison? Oh, that shows you how merciful we, Jew, I mean, Soviets are that will allow you to say such clearly, you could go on a street and watch it. It's not like these are theories. He could point you to it.

And because we're such a wonderful people that we will not send him to the gulag. See, there's full freedom of speech in the USSR. The 20s were spoken of as the conquest by the Jews of Russian capital cities and industrial centers where conditions were better. As well, there was a migration to the better areas within the cities. G. Fedatov describes Moscow at the time. The revolution deformed its soul, turning it inside out, emptying out its mansions and filling them with a foreign and alien people. Well, that's interesting. George Fedatov. I read George Fedetov for many years. So many Russians at the time didn't get it. It's not deformed. That was the revolution. That was the revolution. It was from a foreign and alien people. Fedetov was an excellent writer. He was an Orthodox man. He wrote a lot of good things. This was a period of time where conservative Russians even were struggling with what the heck was going on. This was such a shock to everybody.

although by now it was becoming old hat, but deformed it so. This is what the American left said under Stalin, not realizing that, no, this was the revolution. This is what it was supposed to be. There's nothing distorted about it. It was alien. It was foreign, and it was not deformed. This was what the revolution was supposed to do.

A Jewish joke from the era, even from Berdicev, and even the very old come to Moscow, they want to die in a Jewish city. That's very sad. In a private letter, V.I. Vernotsky in 1927 writes, Moscow now is like Berdicev. The power of Jewry is enormous, and anti-Semitism, including in communist circles, is growing unabated.

It shouldn't shock anybody that in certain communist circles, Gentiles and Marxist circles who were told, these may be true believers, people who said, you know, we believe in workers' control over industry, Yeah, that they ever, that never was even considered. We believe in a certain level of equality. Each according to his ability, according to his need, these kind of slogans. And now they're looking at an oligarchy far worse than anything that they had seen before.

And Vernanke is a great historian. I've been reading him for many years. And somewhat of a Eurasianist, by the way. He eventually was kicked out of the country. This is where the so-called communist circles come from. Apparently, we were duped. This really, this wasn't what we sign up for, and eventually they're going to be themselves kicked out.

Laren, we do not hide figures that demonstrate growth of the Jewish population in urban censors. It is completely unavoidable and will continue into the future. He forecasted the migration from Ukraine and Bilorosia of an additional 600,000 Jews. we can't look upon this as something shameful that the party would silence. We must create a spirit in the working class so that anyone who gives a speech against the arrival of Jews in Moscow would be considered a counter-revolutionary. Working class. They wouldn't know what to do with a real worker if one fell on their head. They had no connection with where, you know, we're talking about factory workers here.

That's the core of, allegedly the core of Marxism. We know they have no conception of it. None of them came from this class. They distrusted this class. Sometimes they hated this class. We've already discussed why the proletarian was targeted, had nothing to do with their condition or anything else. Working class is one of these abstractions that mean absolutely nothing.

It's a plastic phrase that ultimately comes down to saying someone who fanatically supports the work of the party, wherever it is. And again, here we go. So anyone who talks about, and you know, if you're, if you're, if you're a Jewish family, this is a time to have babies. You get whatever you want. This is a perfect time. So there was an explosion of the Jewish population. That makes sense to me.

And so anyone who even talks about the arrival of Jews in Moscow because this is, you know, the capital hub to move there by now, even talking about it, even discussing it means you are a counter-revolutionary. Well, how does talking about, you know, a demographic change have anything to do? with being counter-revolutionary, being anti-Soviet? Well, this is kind of an accidental thing to say. We talked about Lenin on Saturday saying the same kind of thing. This is a tacit admission that the party was Jewish. Because if you say anything about the Jews, by definition, you're saying something about the party, hence you're counter-revolutionary. This was their kind of weird way of admitting to the world.

You know, it's hard living with cognitive dissonance. Now, sociopaths don't have to worry about that. But some, you know, you have plenty of individual Jews who had to deal with this. This is how they did it. They'd go roundabout and not think too hard about it. But ultimately, phrases like this, which you come across constantly in this era, are a way to admit to the world that, yes, this is a Jewish party. This is a Jewish revolution.

This is a Jewish movement. And the way they admit it is saying this. If you give a speech against demographic changes concerning only Jews arriving in the capital and anywhere else with power, that by definition means you're a counter-revolutionary. And for counter-revolutionaries, there is nine grams of lead. That much is clear. But what to do about anti-Semitic tendencies, even in our party circles, was a concern in the upper levels of the party.

According to official data reported in Provda in 1922, Jews made up 5.2% of the party. M. Agerski, quoting, but their actual influence was considerably more. In the same year at the 11th Communist Party Congress, Jews made up 14.6% of the voting delegates, 18.3% of the non-voting delegates, and 26% of those elected to the Central Committee at the conference. Sometimes one accidentally comes upon such data, a taciturn memoirist from Moscow opens Provda in July 1930 and notes, quote, The portrait of the 25-member Presidium of the Communist Party

included 11 Russians, 8 Jews, 3 from the Caucasus, and 3 Latvians. In large cities, close to areas of the former Pala settlement, the following data. In the early 20s, party organizations in Minsk, Gomel, and Teppsk in 22 were, respectively 34.8%, 21.1% and 16.6% Jewish, respectively. Lauren notes, quote, Jewish revolutionaries play a bigger part than any others in revolutionary activity. Thanks to their qualities, Jewish workers often find it easier to rise to positions of local leadership.

There's a few ways of dealing with this. First of all, these are official numbers. They were very interested in playing down numbers. I know these numbers are much higher. But again, you're talking about 1% of the population. You know, there's only so many Jews to go around, but you only need a fairly small number to have tremendous influence. You have, you know, allegedly, in 1920, 5.2% of the party, it's utter nonsense.

We spent a lot of time talking about Jews hiding their identities, not reporting themselves as Jews, plus the fact that the Soviets did not like the idea that people, especially abroad, were starting to notice these facts. at the same time, it seemed, now, and keep in mind, party membership doesn't mean a whole lot. That's the whole point of this paragraph. It's the positions of power that matter,

especially in, you know, in KVD very early, police institutions, the rule of the camps, the law, that kind of thing, judges these positions of power. Well, I don't really care about, party membership. It didn't matter. Jews didn't really have to be a member of the party.

You could be a communist, not be a member of the party, especially if you were part of that group. Now, we're talking about 1% of the population here in the West, where Jews were dominant. They ran the party. So let's say it's accurate. So 36% in Minsk, that's probably low. But even if it's correct, that means the party is inherently Jewish because that organized very well-onized, group of Jews will keep a lid on everybody else. And as we already know, they act in such a sociopathic way that Russians or Belarusians or Ukrainians will keep their mouths shut. Hence, the concern about any Semitism within the party. But there's no doubt in my mind these numbers are higher.

But we are talking about not necessarily quantitative issues, but qualitative ones. It just really takes a handful of Jews to take over an organization if they have plenty of money. And that's the point of this thing. It really doesn't matter. Party membership, especially at this point, doesn't make a whole lot of difference, especially since the numbers or Soviet numbers on everything are to be brought under suspicion. But remember, you're going to get this thrown at you, you know, how you'll trust the prov of the numbers on Jews. Jews don't want people to know that this is a Jewish movement.

So, of course, you're going to play them down. The Jews are expert at hiding their identity and not responding to census. We talked about this all the time. And yet, how do you explain? On 25 member Presidium, eight were Jews. 11 Russians, allegedly, although Jews who would change their name. Or similarly, people who said they weren't. And in fact, they were. It gets very complicated. And it was, oh, even before the

Bolshevik takeover, it was complicated. And we dealt with that at great length. The western Belarusian areas, and then, of course, eastern Ukraine, too, the western part of the empire, these numbers make a lot more sense. And they would explain the presidium numbers, and especially at the local level, where in these areas, you have completely Jewish party committees and everything else. Party membership doesn't mean a whole lot. Jews can make up, you know, let's say it's accurate. I'd say probably maybe probably more like 25, 20% of the voting delegates would say. the 11th, 11th Congress. That really, that's, that's all they need.

You could take over an entire movement that way. This 15%, let's say 20%, they have infinitely more money, infinitely more money than any of the Gentiles on that committee. They have far more connections. They have connections abroad. They could run circles around their Russian competitors, and they did see them as competitors.

And so it really didn't make any difference. But in the early revolutionary movement, we go through the names. We've gone through the names a hundred times. Those low numbers don't make a whole lot of sense. Now, the Pala settlement did include, of course, you know, Minskamel, these are all in Belarus. And these numbers make a lot more sense to me. Now, in central Russia, you're not going to get a whole lot. You know, there's really a handful of Jews that are beginning with.

Jews were always concentrated in the West. And so that's how you explain this to anyone who may. That's really Solzhenit's point of view. How do you explain this to somebody who throws these numbers at you? This is what Pravda says. Of course, we always believe what Pravda says. So that's how you answer it. There's a few different ways to go about it, and I listed them all.

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In the same issue of Pravda, it is noted that Jews at 5.2% of the party were in the third place after Russian, 72%, and Ukrainians, 5.9%, followed by Latvians, 2.5%, and then Georgians, charters, polls, and bilo-Russians. Jews had the highest rate of per capita party membership. 7.2% of Jews were in the party versus 3.8% for great Russians. Emmerzky correctly notes that in absolute numbers, the majority of communists were, of course, Russians, but the unusual role of Jews in leadership was dawning on the Russians. It was just too obvious.

For instance, Zinoviev gathered many Jews around themselves in the Petersburg leadership. Ergurski suggests this was what Laren was referring to in his discussion of the photograph of the prosidium of Petrograd Soviet in 1918 in his book. By 1921, the preponderance of Jews in Petrograd's CP organization was apparently so odious that the Politburo, reflecting on the lessons of Kronstadt and the anti-Semitic mood of Petrograd. decided to send several ethnic Russian communists to Petrograd, though entirely for publicity purposes. So, U. Go ahead. I said, there you go.

That's exactly what I said above. They're worried. I mentioned the Hungarian example, where you had 100 percent. Stalin said, we can't have that. Anyway, go ahead. So Uglinov took the place of Zoran Humberg as head of Gubkum. Kamarov replaced Trilisor and Semienov went to Cheka. But Zinov objected to the decision of Politburo and fought the new group.

And as a result, Uglinov was recalled from Petrograd and a purely Russian opposition group formed spontaneously in the Petrograd organization, a group forced to counter the rest of the organization whose tone was set by Jews. I'm one of the few people who spent a lot of time on the Leningrad affair after World War II. The Leningraders, as they were called, or became somewhat within the confines of the Stalin Soviet Union, the so-called Russian Party. The Leningrad purge is very little known and for very good reason. Ultimately, it was a way to destroy the siege of Leningrad. in World War II, the propaganda that these people were almost gods was everywhere. But the fact that they were all Russians and said, you know, if we were gods like this, how can we have to deal? Why are Russians in, you know, being exploited? The one place that,

that, you know, communism doesn't seem to apply for better or for worse. We even have our own, yeah, we don't have our own meaning. We don't have anything. Everyone else does, though. And the purge began. Just one thing that's going to get you sent to a camp is, being even in the confines of Marxism, a Russian so-called nationalist or someone who says that Russians as an ethnic group are being exploited, which they were. They would produce and far more would be taken from them and sent abroad than given to them. They were one of the only groups that would produce and all their products be sent to abroad or even outlying republics. And the Leningrad purge was Stalin's respondent very up

and the Jews are surrounding them. I had a lot to say that you know what? These Russians are starting to talk like Russian nationalists. Yeah, we're God. How come we're not treated this way? There were no Jews up there. Russians were up there.

And Stalin eventually sent them to the camps. There was a betrayal. But the West didn't know what to do with this. So it was ignored. Very few people know. about the Leningrad trial. I have, go back to Radio Albian, maybe this time last year. Yeah, I think this time last year I did an hour, at least an hour, on the Leningrad purge.

You're not going to find a lot of references to that anywhere. And even if you do, they're not going to really talk about it in any kind of realistic way. And but keep in mind, and that was hushed up for a while. I said before, Soviet Union was very image conscious, especially in this era. They had a lot of money coming in from the West, so-called anti-communist West. And, you know, they were kind of rebuilding without really the ability. They used to have the ability, but they were all gone. And so they needed Western assistance.

They were very concerned with their image. And you had a far healthier Western society. If it became clear that this was a completely foreign Jewish group that was destroying Russians and blowing up churches, this might be a problem for us. And so they brought people like that idiot who was running the Church of England, showing them all the churches that they allowed to exist saying, see, and he went back to England saying, I can't think of his name now, Dr. President of Canterbury,

saying, see, you know, he said there was perfectly full religious freedom in the USSR. Well, he said it, so it must be true. And that's where all these myths got started. But the idea that this was a Russian movement is absolutely absurd. But this paragraph explains some of these numbers. These numbers are after all of these shuffling occurred. They're very misconscious. They can't have it look like.

I mean, they changed their name for a reason. If they use their real name, can you imagine this the list of people who, of all the dictators? There was only one Jew that was Endropov who really didn't matter all that much. They were very careful to make sure you didn't have Jews, you know, or certainly Jews named Goldstein or Goldberg, something like that, in positions of power that people would know, people would recognize. But go to the police agencies, go to the camps, and you're going to see nothing but Jewish names, both those who were changed and both who kept the original ones. So Noviyev, of course, himself being a Jew. It's an obvious not his real name. But not only in Petrograd.

At the 12th Communist Party Congress, 1923, three out of six Politburo members were Jewish. Pullet Bureau members were Jewish. Three out of seven were Jews in the leadership of the Kumsumal and in the presidium of the All-Russia Conference in 1922. This was not tolerable to other leading communists, and apparently preparations were begun for an anti-Jewish revolt at the 13th Party Congress, May 1924.

Quote, there is evidence that a group of members of C.K. were planning to drive leading Jews from the Politburo, replacing them with Nogun, Trianovsky, and others, and that only the death of Nogun interrupted the plot. His death, literally on the eve of the Congress, resulted from an unsuccessful and unnecessary operation for a stomach ulcer by the same surgeon who dispatched Frunz with an equally unneeded operation a year and a half later. Well, I strongly doubt. I mean, there always was anti-Jewish thinking. Plans for a purge that more than likely this was a way to justify a purge of Russians. Yeah, you had plenty, plenty of Russians and even those outside the, you know, Latvians and Turks, whatever, who had enough of this, who had enough of this Jewish arrogance. they had power, direct political power, armed political power, the police agencies. It's the first time.

We're talking 1923, 24. This was still brand new to them. Yeah, they were pissing everyone off. This is what they do. They have no conception for all their alleged intelligence. They have no conception of thinking in the future. Everything is what they can grab at the moment. They didn't have to do very much to placate Russians, but they wouldn't even do.

dream of it. Now, I don't know about the doctors and later doctors plot and stuff like that, but, you know, there's, there's so many problems with this. There's been so much written, especially in Russian, on these questions. The most I'll say, there was no organization, however, but there were plenty of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, those, you know, certain parts of the Baltics, Far East, that had just had enough. They were, they were already pissing off their own people. I know, communists,

people who might actually have taken ideology seriously, who had now come to the realization that this isn't really,

the words that I've been reading aren't really what they mean. And I've been completely duped. And it's really hard to admit that you've been fooled or that this isn't

what you think it was or that you were used. And there is no accident that it is no accident that, five to ten years. Maybe there's continual purchase of the party. Don't get me wrong.

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For more, visit understandinginsurance. org slash underinsurance, brought to you by Insurance Ireland. I think we should stop right there because we're going to start getting into the check of GPU and their numbers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and this is what I've been saying. You get into these groups. Totally different story. Party membership, these, I don't, you know.

But as time went on, People began to realize, as matter what your ethnic background, if you wanted a career, if you wanted an education, you wanted anything, at least have a party membership card. It meant absolutely nothing. The Chinese party in the late 70s got to what? It was something like 60 million people, even more, who had a party membership card. How many of those 60 million actually fully believed in Marx and Mao? You know, it wasn't the case. people had a communist party card

because they realized it was necessary for them to function in society. Not necessarily all the time. That was late, Alexander Lukashenko, for example, one of my favorite world leaders in Belarus who functioned within the party. Never had a communist party. It was never a member of the party.

But that was very late in the game. At this point, people began to realize, especially Gentiles, Jews didn't have to worry so much, but Gentiles realized that if I wanted anything. If I want my kids educated, if I want a career, et cetera, I, probably my best bet is to join the party, even if I don't even know or care or even hate communism as an ideology. Yeah. I mean, if, you know, there's going to be three kinds of people when they see this kind of thing arise. There's going to be those who are going to try and get on the side of it,

those who are going to just try to completely ignore it, and those who are going to fight it. The biggest group is going to be the one in the middle, but the ones who, uh, there will be ones who will accept where it's going and be like, you know, survival calls and, um, you know, my survival instinct tells me to, um, you know, do what I need to do to get along and, um, you know, be on their side. And I think that happens a lot. Don't judge these people. Yeah.

Because these people already realized what, what's going to happen? They had little kids or something like that. they know what's going to happen to them. We all think, oh, we'd be fighters, we'd be out there with, we don't know that. We don't know that. We know what they would do. We know what they did to their enemies. We know how disgusting they were in terms of their enemies.

If you already, you know, you have a family, you have a lot going. You can't just get a rifle gone into the woods. You have plenty of people doing that. And no, they were never heard from again. There was a movement. I'm pretty sure we're going to talk about this in the future, trying to Russianize the party. You had an entire ideological movement. I mean, earlier Asianism almost was based on this notion.

That, you know what, matter how many Jews run this, there's only so many of them. And we can Russianize this party. Maybe Bolivism doesn't necessarily have to be communism. Alexander Dugan said that early in his career. I don't know if he says it anymore. Lamanov says it, or said it. He's dead now. Bolshevism doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish Marxism.

We can Russianize it. And those kind of people were useful for a while. They're eventually all wiped out, but they even had a whole journal, which I wrote about age, a million years ago. I was first learning to read the language. I don't remember before Google Translate. And when Google Translate early on was awful, especially in Russian, I had no choice. I had to learn it.

My kids were little. I remember that. Um, but, um, that, you know, that's, you know, you had a lot of, you're absolutely right. You had a whole different layer, set of layers of reactions. What are we going to do? It's really hard. Going into exile, you know, well, that was chosen by a lot of people. Uh, their exile organizations already abroad. Soviets hated them. You know, they were writing a lot and everything else. You had people who joined the party just for the survival sake, um, go along.

You had people who stayed who wanted to maybe move the party in their direction. You had tons of those people. And ultimately, right up until the end of the Khrushchevara, they never made it. They were either purged or you keep your head down. Plenty people kept their head down. Or if you lived in places like Armenia or Georgia, they were kind of left alone. I'm not saying that they weren't persecuted. They were sent to camps.

I'm not saying that. But because they were actually, they usually exceeded their quotas. Georgians and Armenians were known for that. Because they produced so well, this is much later in the empire, that they were kind of, they would give slogans about how wonderful Lenin was. And otherwise, you know, in the 50s and 60s, they were kind of left alone. They didn't do half, half badly. Of course, they usually did it on the backs of Russians.

But you had a situation in Georgia where, I mean, to this day, like 96% of Georgians live in Georgia. very rare to find that in any, this is worth for, I can think of, Armenians, of course, are a different story. It's not their fault. So there were lots of ways of surviving it. I've read so much, you know, biography and everything else. There's a million different, very specific ways. If you were very valuable to them, you have very specific.

But, you know, Solzhenitsyn talks about in his early work, the gulags weren't necessarily just people out there with pikes, you know. The gulags often were laboratories. computer science labs these were normal guys but they just were in prison but they had lab coats on well educated they were valuable to the state

they didn't trust them but was it the red wheel or um yeah the red wheel I think it starts off I get a mixed up sometimes starts off with a guy in a audio lab talking about how to bug phones and everything else

he was in prison he was in a gulag but if you're well educated you're not going to just get to send you off to you know, die in the, in the, in the, in the, in the tundra, they're going to use you that way. So there was a million different ways. Their life wasn't so bad. They were in prison, but their life wasn't so bad.

So there was a million ways, depending on your background, who you were, what you're going to do, your personality. But I'm telling you, I don't like judging the idea of these people didn't necessarily fight. You have to ask yourself, what would you do? A lot of Orthodox struggle with this, you know, would you sign the 1927 declaration, knowing full well that the party said, if you don't sign this, we're going to slaughter the rest of the priests here. be careful who you judge and make sure you understand what would you do in this situation if you knew what would happen to you and for possibly your family if you didn't sign of course you don't mean it we all know you didn't mean it there's no mens rea there so judging people because they went along

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