The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 85

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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The Pekingona Show.com. Everything's there. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. This is episode 85. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? I'm extremely busy. I'm putting the final touches on this book on the Russo-Ukrainian War. You know, it's hard putting out a book on current events,

even though most of it is history now, but anything could happen. But I think it's going to be evergreen in many ways. Of course, no one is saying what I'm saying. My lamp just went out. Damn thing. So, you know, it's always, it's always nerve-wracking. When you finally say, okay, I'm done, it's going out. That's just going to be in a few days because I'm sick of it.

Awesome. Awesome. All right, let's go. Of course, not all were drawn to Bolshevism. There were large numbers of peaceful Jews whom the revolution crushed. However, the life in the towns of the former Pala settlement were not visible to ordinary non-Jewish persons. Instead, the average person saw, as described by M. Haifitz, arrogant, self-confident, and self-satisfied

adult Jews at ease on red holidays and red weddings. We now sit where Tsars and generals once sat, and they sit beneath us. These were not unwaveringly ideological Bolsheviks. The invitation to power was extended to millions of residents from rotting schedels to pawnbrokers, tavern owners, contrabandists, seltzer water salesmen, and those. those who sharpen their wills in the fight for survival and their minds and evening study of the Torah and the Talmud. The authorities invited them to Moscow, Petrograd, and Kiev to take into their quick nervous hands, that which was falling from the soft pampered hands of the hereditary intelligentsia,

everything from the finances of a great power, nuclear physics, and the secret police. Well, to be sure, it would be idiotic to say that every single job, Jew, every single Jew supported the revolution, although I think the overwhelming majority did. It's also true to say that their ideological motivations may not have been pure, although Lenin and Trotsky demanded, especially in the Red Army, a complete, firm, monolithic ideology. They were willing to kill many people in order to gain cohesiveness ideologically. and that's one of the reasons that they were that were victorious

overwhelmingly what he's saying here is that it really didn't matter you know Marxism was was a pretext it always has been for these people it's power the line you know we sit where generals and even the Tsar sat well hard reading that's what they wanted that's what they've always wanted

I'm not so sure they considered it their country because it's not, you know, Israel, but it came very close to it. And, yeah, they were, you know, they clearly were sought out for power positions. And it's the finance, from finances for great power, nuclear physics, and the secret police. Well, keep in mind, they weren't a great power at the time, quite the contrary. But thanks to trade with the West, they will be in the future. they couldn't resist the temptation of esau the less so since in addition to a bowl of pottage they were offered the chance to build the promised land that is communism there was a jewish illusion that this was their country end quote many jews did not enter the whirlwind of revolution and didn't automatically join the bolsheviks but the general national inclination was one of sympathy for the bolshevik cause and a feeling that life would now be incomparably better. Quote, the majority of Jews met the revolution, not with fear, but with

welcome arms, end quote. In the early 20s, the Jews of Belarusia and Ukraine were a, quote, significant source of support for the centralization of power in Moscow over and against the influence of regional power, end quote. Evidence of Jewish attitudes in 1923 showed the overwhelming majority consider Bolshevism to be a lesser evil, and that if the Bolsheviks lost power, it would be worse for them. Yeah, there may be some truth to that. How many of these Jews were reading Lenin and Trotky and Marx? Some of them probably were reading Moses Hess or Feuerbach, but it really didn't matter. I mean, many Jews had supported the provisionals, you know, anything but the Russian monarchy, which at this point

they had created this imaginary dragon in their minds simply how it works especially when you hear the same things from your people every day and to justify his murder and what they did they have an incentive now to make him to this monster

and he was anything quite the opposite of that the only monstrous element was the were the red forces So, yeah, I think, I can't imagine any Jews saying that if the Bolsheviks lost power, we're in trouble. It's kind of like Netanyahu. If his coalition falls apart, he goes to jail. He gets arrested for war crimes, something like that.

He has to go into hiding, whatever it is. He can't flee to Israel. He's already there. So, you know, that's what's, yeah, the mentality here. he's speaking in generalities, but I think he's for the most part, correct. Now a Jew can command an army. These gifts alone were enough to bring Jewish support for the communists. The disorder of the Bolshevism seemed like a brilliant victory for justice,

and no one noticed the complete suppression of freedom. Large numbers of Jews who did not leave after the revolution failed to foresee the bloodthorceiveness of the new government, though the persecution, even of socialists, was well underway. way. The Soviet government was as unjust and cruel then as it was to be in 1937 and in 1950. But in the 20s, it did not raise an alarm or resistance in the wider Jewish population since its force was aimed not at Jewry. Oh, I think they noticed the suppression of freedom just didn't affect them so much. And it is true that, again, especially in the 20s, The theological uniformity was everything.

So the anarchists, the anarchists are, you know, they're useful as a battering ram, and that's about it. They went off to the camps or escaped, various forms of socialism that rejected Bolshevism. Although I don't know how that would work. And I think Bolivism is really the only way, it's the only trajectory of any kind of socialism, you know, internationalist and materialist socialism. because you know you can't have a market so you have to have a totalitarian system of some kind but I do want to note and I've said it before I don't care that it's very common to hear people thinking saying that Stalin distorted the message of Lenin that Stalin was different he created this this Goulog camp system he his purges that's why the Soviet Union became

unjust not realizing that Lenin was the exact same way Trotsky was the exact same way. Everyone in power was the exact same way in the 20s, but of course, with much less technology and much less security in power. In the early 20s, it was still unsure. You had peasant uprisings everywhere. The Red Army, you know, it was very, very uncertain, which is why the political commissars came into existence to make sure that these colonels and generals weren't thinking independent thoughts. I don't know if they foresaw the bloodthirstiness or not, but it didn't affect them. It might in the future, but certainly not as Jews. No one was ever attacked merely or a persecuted or repressed because they were a Jew. A Jew may be repressed because they're part of a group that does something stupid or whatever it is.

It says something wrong, but never as Jews. When Leskopf in a report for the Polensky Commission, one by one refuted all the presumed consequences for Russians from the removal of restrictions on Jewish settlement in Russia, he couldn't have foreseen the great degree to which Jews would be participating in governing the country and the economy in the 20s. The revolution changed the entire course of events and we don't know how things would have developed without it. It's funny. Yet another commission. I forgot we used to laugh at that, one after another, after another, after another, after or another. When in 1920, Solomon Luria, a professor of ancient history in Petrograd found that

in Soviet internationalist and communist Russia, anti-Semitism was again on the rise. He was not surprised. On the contrary, quote, events substantiated the correctness of his earlier conclusions that the cause of anti-Semitism lies with the Jews themselves and currently, with or in spite of the complete absence of legal restrictions on Jews, anti-Semitism has erupted with a new strength and reached a fever pitch that could never have been imagined in the old regime. So many Jews just couldn't make that connection. They deliberately were in denial. And when you're in denial, you don't know you're in denial, or else it wouldn't be denial. But once in a while, you'll find a very easy logic here. Of course you're going to have anti-Jewish

thinking. Of course you are. Look at what you're doing. Look at who's in charge. But note too that even Theodore Herzl, founding Zionism, said he understood anti-Semitism. Now, he didn't blame himself or Jews for anything, but it's just because we're aliens here. We don't really belong here. It makes sense. It would be the same thing if, you know, the reverse for the case. That's why we need to leave. Now, I don't know if some of that mentality may have seen. deeped in. Zionism was looked at with disfavor at the time, always looked up with this favor, until, of course, 1948, 49, 50, and that was about it. Then, you know, Stalin loved the idea of Israel as an ally of the U.S.S.R. But see here, complete absence of legal restrictions on Jews. What he means is Jews can now engage in their most depraved thoughts and just by this pseudo-history, which is being taught right this second in any university you choose. So he's not even justifying anti-semitism. He understands it, though. And it kind of makes sense to him.

It's a shame. But that's the end of it. He's certainly not going to blame himself or Jews in general. He's just simply making a logical point. Russian, more precisely little Russian, anti-Semitism of past centuries than the early 20th century, was blown away with its seeds by the winds of the October Revolution. Those who joined the Union of the Russian people, those who marched with their religious standards to smash Jewish shops, those who demanded the execution of Bayliss, those who defended the royal throne, the urban middle class, and those who were with them or who resembled them or who was suspected to be like them were rounded up by thousands and shot or imprisoned. Well, come on, we already talked about this.

The Union of the Russian people always reacted. They reacted to the actions of Jews. They didn't just decide one day to go and smash a Jewish shop because it's fun. They had done something. The pogroms usually began with a march like this. They got shot at by very well-armed Jews. and their defense organizations and then a battle broke out um so and of course you know from from the assassination of Alexander the second on um i'm not sure if we could put a class

i you know it's under the impression that not just the urban middle class but you had tons of the working class in ukraine um that had joined as well that was one of the biggest i think in my first book which i sometimes cringe that today a little bit My first book, Union of the Russian people at one point reached 400,000. The Communist Party was, you know, just a handful at the time. It was a representative organization, but it had its strength in Ukraine because this is where all the Jews were. It wasn't prejudice. They knew the Jews on a day-to-day basis.

So, you know, they didn't march with religious standards to smash Jewish shops. They smashed Jewish shops after they got shot at by, the you know by jews and and those sympathetic to them among russian workers and peasants there was no anti-semitism before the revolution this is attested to by leaders of the revolution themselves the russian intelligentsia was actively sympathetic to the cause of the oppressed jews and children of the post-revolution years were raised only in the internationalist spirit i will disagree with that first uh that first comment it was uh it was relatively common i think he might mean doctrinaire you know i mean his personal relationships were usually negative but whether that

turned into an ideology is another matter stripped of any strength discredited and crushed completely where did anti-semitism come from where i have no idea we already described how surprising it was for jewish russian emigreys to learn that anti-semitism had not died they followed the phenomenon in writings of socialist, E.D. Koskova and S.S. Masloff, who came from Russia in 1922. In an article in the Jewish Tribune, Kaskova states that the anti-Semitism in the USSR is not a figment of the imagination and that in Russia, Bolshevism is now blending with Judaism. This cannot be doubted. Yeah, that's huge. For the Jewish Tribune to say that. She even met highly culture Jews who were anti-Semites of the new Soviet type. A Jewish doctor

told her, Jewish Bolshevik administrators ruin the excellent relations he had with the local population. A teacher said, children tell me that I teach in a Jewish school because we have forbidden the teaching of the Ten Commandments and driven off the priest. There are only Jews in the Narcomat of education. In high schools, circles from radical families, there is talk about the predominance of the Jews. Young people in general are more anti-Semitic than the older generation, and one here is everywhere. They showed their true colors and tortured us. Russian life is full of this stuff today. But if you ask me who they are, these anti-Semites, they are most of the society. So widespread is this

thinking that the political administration distributed a proclamation explaining why there are so many Jews in it. Uh-oh. Quote, when the Russian proletariat needed its own new intelligency, mid-level intelligentsia, technical workers and administrative workers, not surprisingly, Jews who before had been in the opposition came forward to meet them. The occupation by Jews of administrative posts in the new Russia is historically inevitable

and would have been the natural outcome, regardless of whether the new Russia had become constitutionally Democrat, socialist revolutionary, or proletia. any problems with having Aaron Moisevich to Aaron Moisevich tank alevich sitting in the palace of Ivan Petrovich Ivanov need to be cured yeah one you know typical Russian uh typical Jewish name the other one classic Russian name Ivan Petrovich something like that damn I don't even know where to start with this. The first half of this is true. Jews had gone so far that ordinary Jews who were kind of okay

ended up being, you know, looked that suspiciously. It's very rare in English anyway to hear about this. You know, you look at your typical survey history of the USSR. They don't really talk about this very much. The anti-Semitism was crushed by these laws that Lennon passed. London decreed, and that was the end of it. But we're really talking about one group of people. We're talking about Gentile members of the Communist Party

and Jews who are a little worried that this is making them look back. Now, regardless of the numbers that we cited before, clearly, you know, Jews are, especially in Ukraine, they ran the show. If you are a true Marxist, if you accept this, and you're a Gentile, and you say, wonderful, we have taken over, and then you see a group of people highly privileged ruling it almost as an ethnic fiefdom, well, this isn't Marxism. And the fact that they may or may not even be Marxist, but they love it because it's materialist and it smashes or gives justification to destroy the Orthodox Church and Gentile people and society in general.

Now, saying it's most of society, that might well be true. We all know why. Now, as far as their explanation, I keep forgetting about this. It's very bad. We all know that. The argument is, well, the old intelligentsia did not, you know, we need to staff, and I said this before, we need to staff a new modern country, a revolutionary society. It didn't matter which background it is.

We needed a new modernized Russia. The only group of people who are competent enough and have experience in these fields somehow are the Jews. That's essentially what they're saying. When anyone uses the word inevitable, I have a huge problem with the word inevitable because that says, well, we have nothing to do with it. It's inevitable, meaning that we did.

didn't do it ourselves is simply the march of history or something. That happens a lot with technology. People use the word inevitable. It's a terrible word to use, especially when you're justifying something. I have no reason to believe that Jews had any more or less experience in administrative positions, especially technical ones, than your average Russian or anyone else. We spent a long time talking about how Jews lied about their occupations. They used universities not for education, but for agitation. Their concern really wasn't, you know, really wasn't, this is just a romanticization. Really, when it comes down to it, saying, I don't know, maybe Jew wrote this, maybe Jew didn't.

that Judaism is modernity, and hence Ivan Petrovich could never do it, because Russians aren't modern. Russians are savage, they're Asiatic hordes or whatever they, the word that Lenin and even Marx used. So it was not historically inevitable, and we know why that Jews were in those positions. but for the very fact that the Soviet Union need to issue a proclamation that justified it. You know, talk about when we were in an argument with somebody, just say that. The Soviet government had to justify the huge number of Jews in government positions. The only citizens around were government positions. And this was their argument.

And it's historically inevitable. So there's no question. is this makes it absolutely 100% true and as certain as gravity that this was a Jewish movement. And when you have the Jewish Tribune saying that Bolivism is now blending with Judaism, and that cannot be doubted. And then wondering where the anti-Semitism is coming from, that's it. And this is a reason why Sultan Isan was condemned. He had been condemned before that for many other reasons.

but while he was condemned in the West, and it took so long to get this thing in English and all the rest of it. Cuscova Parries, quote, in a constitutional democratic or SR Russian, Russia, many administrative posts would have been occupied by Jews, but neither the cadets nor SRs would have forbidden teaching the Ten Commandments and wouldn't have chopped off heads. Stop Tankalovich from doing evil,

and there will be no microbe of anti-Semitism. I don't know. The socialist revolutionaries and liberals, they were revolutionaries as well. They were more towards the French and 1848 revolution, but they always chopped off heads. Remember, these kind of governments can only be forced on people. And they would be occupied by Jews, not just because it's inevitable, but because Jews were always supporting anything that wasn't royalists. has nothing to do with with talent or ability or experience. It's that they were more reliable, ideologically speaking, than anyone else.

So this is a terrible argument. And, you know, forbidding the Ten Commandments, oh, gee, I thought Jews loved the Old Testament. No, anything in reference to religion was gone. And yes, I think the Sars would have done that. And so with the cadets. The Jewish emigrate community was chilled by Maslow. of his findings. Here was attested SR with an unassailable reputation who lived through the first four years of Soviet power. Quote, Judeophobia is everywhere in Russia today. It has swept areas

where Jews were never before seen and where the Jewish question never occurred to anyone. The same hatred for Jews is found in the Vologda, Archangel, and in the towns of Siberia and the Urals. He recounts several episodes affecting the perception of the simple Russian peasants, such as its human produce commissar, Indenbom's order to shear sheep for the second time in the season because the Republic needs wool. This was prior to collectivization, no less. These actions of this commissar caused the Isham peasant uprising. The problem arose because it was late in the fall and the sheep would die without the coats from the coming winter cold. Masloff does not name the commissars who ordered the planting of millet and fried sunflower seeds

or issued a prohibition on planting malt, but one can conclude they did not come from ordinary Russian folk or from Russian aristocracy or from yesterday's men. From all this, the peasantry could only conclude that the power over them was Jewish. So too did the workers. Several workers' resolutions from the Urals in February and March of 1921 sent to the Kremlin, quote, complained with outrage of the dominance of the Jews in central and local government. The intelligentsia, of course, does not think the Soviet power is Jewish, but it has noted the vastly disproportionate roles of Jews in authority when compared to their numbers in the population. This is one hell of a paragraph.

I mean, this says so much here. You know, I think many years ago I mentioned some of those worker resolutions. Now, what he's saying is in central Russia and in the far east, There weren't a whole lot of Jews. So their lack of experience, it doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't judaithobic. I like that word, by the way. But they'd had no personal experience with it. We started this with the Emperor Paul and the Dershavin Commission.

And he was, they were kind of epilohsemitic even. He goes over there and he sees what the Jews are doing to the peasants, the fraud, the scams for simple people and who trusted everybody and came back to, you know, Paul and then later Alexander is saying, this is outrageous. Now I know why they're getting murdered out there. But what he's saying here, and I have, he's certainly true, that, that everyone is noticing. How can you not notice it? Now, I've already mocked many times these Jews who have never seen a sheep in their life, who have never seen a farm in their life, who have never seen a farm in their life, who even the Soviet, the Tsarist government tried very hard to get them to farm and refused.

We went through that in great detail, but Indymba was placed in charge of these agricultural areas. He knew nothing. He knew nothing about planting it, but he was still giving orders as if he did. now I want to mention that the revolt he mentions in this thanks to him turned out to be probably the largest you had I mean Soviet power almost Soviet power was in panic there were hundreds of thousands of peasants who were at war unfortunately they never really got together and Soviets used poison gas and they

simply didn't have the weapons or the organization the Red Army did well they killed a lot of them from then on there was never any peasants and Soviets were two different worlds and then collectivization of course destroyed them further and that's because of this stuff

I've talked I've said hundreds of times these Jews placed in charge of agriculture really they have no clue what they're talking about and they wonder why everyone's starving what they're saying that peasants were lazy you know anything but take responsibility and of course they did conclude the power over them was jewish because it was because his name was indenbaum and i guarantee you he was surrounded with a circle of underlings also with jewish name the isham peasant uprising uh was really shook the Soviet system. I don't know how much the West knew about it, but it was huge.

And it showed the Soviet. In other words, they knew that they didn't represent anybody but themselves. They knew that they were destroying the country, and they didn't care. Their policies never changed. In fact, they got worse with the introduction of collectivization. But the Lenin estate didn't have the power or the security or the men or the technology to begin collectivization, although they started. of the foundations were laid, that had to come a little bit later.

And if a Jew approaches a group of non-Jews who are freely discussing Soviet reality, they almost always change the topic of conversation, even if the new arrival is a personal acquaintance. Masloff tries to understand, quote, the cause of the widespread and better hatred of Jews in modern Russia, and it seems to him to be, the identification throughout society of Soviet power and Jewish power. You know, I've said, I've said this before, but, you know, they're repeating. I say a lot of things more than once could people forget, and I forget.

But overwhelmingly, scholars in the Western world, especially in the EU, writing on the October Revolution, rarely mention the Jews at all. and today, you know, at 54 years old, I realize just how absurd those books are. I use the same slogan every time, and I've said it to them, some of them. You know, talking about October Revolution and what happened afterwards without talking about the Jews is like talking about Tibet. In fact, claiming to be an expert on Tibet and refusing to mention Buddhism or not knowing anything about Buddhism or not even knowing. that it's a Buddhist society. That's pretty much the same thing. And so their books are hollow. Yeah, there's some, you get some, I get some good information out of it, just, you know, dates and times and stuff like that. But how do you not mention the Jews? They were central.

They were central to all of this, as we see here. We can list all the names for them if we want. And yet, you know, it's just like, you know, I want to write a history on, I want to write a history on Ukraine and never mention the Cossacks, or even not know they exist. It's absolutely, that's the absurdity that this accumulation of literature has reached. Although I have to admit, there are a handful of mainstream academics who do mention them. Himka, I think, is one in his very huge history of Ukraine, and I've read many times. there are a few who mention that Jewish behavior, for example, under Polish rule, was indefensible. Of course, they condemn Kimminsky and all that, but so you do have a handful, but but not many.

So, and I think for a young professor writing on this stuff, or is, you know, someone just starting out as a writer anywhere. I don't even want to get into this stuff. Yeah, they don't want the trouble. So somehow they have to create a history of the 1920s USSR without mentioning the Jews, which is, I don't know, borderline hilarious. The expression, Yid power is often used in Russia and particularly in Ukraine and in the former pale of settlement, not as a polemic, but as a completely objective definition of power, its contents, and its politics. Soviet power in the first place answers to which.

and interests of Jews, and they are its ardent supporters, and in the second place, power resides in Jewish hands. Among the causes of Judeophobia, Masloff notes the, quote, tightly welded ethnic cohesion they have formed as a result of their difficult thousands-years-old history. Oh, yeah. This is particularly noticeable when it comes to selecting staff at institutions. If the selection process is in the hands of Jews, you can bet the entire staff of responsible position will go to Jews, even if it means removing the existing staff, end quote. And often that, quote, preference for their own is displayed in a sharp, discourteous manner, which is offensive to others.

End quote. In the Jewish bureaucrat, Soviet power manifests more obviously its negative features. The intoxicating wine of power is stronger for Jews and goes to their head. I don't know where this comes from, perhaps because of the low cultural level of the former pharmacists and shopkeepers, maybe from living earlier without full civil rights? Can you imagine thinking that way? Living without full civil rights, they were a privileged group of people. They did better than your typical Russian peasant any day of the week. The hell are they talking about?

But Masloff is correct. Tightly welded ethnic cohesion. Now, they haven't been around for thousands of years. But they still maintain that. He's absolutely correct. The staff at institutions. It still goes on today. They're a little bit more polite about it.

But they always will choose their own under the assumption that he's simply better. Or he's a relative or something like that. But without any kind of social sanction, they can be discourteous and sharp and everything else and then wonder why they're hated afterwards. The Jews, you know, it's simply no different than giving, like say, we gave the Mexican government completely over to the cartels. You know, it would be a very similar thing, a similar type of government after this. They were a little more than a mafia-style organization, specializing in smuggling and avoiding the census. Prior to the revolution and now, they don't care. This is about them.

Of course, you had plenty of doctrinaire Marxists among Jews, but many of them. Marx was a Jew, he was a materialist, it gave him a justification to destroy Christianity, et cetera. But to say stupid things, like a pharmacist and a shopkeeper has a low cultural level. I mean, talk about, and then because they live without full civil rights, therefore they're going to burn down a church. It's simply stupid, but for the most part, he is correct. was it yesterday that I played that video for you of Congressman Randy Fine saying that yeah no Jews have been kicked out of every country they've ever been in and we've never done anything wrong that's exactly what he said first of all I was shocked

that he even mentioned it and secondly that he would say I think he said it none of it was our fault or something like that yeah um Well, we knew they think that, but to come out and say that and have everyone clap for him afterwards, and I guarantee you, they were evangelical Protestants in the audience and some Jews, but that's really the only support they have left. Congressman Fine, I've quoted Congressman Fine and many other outrageous things in the band. He is absolutely grotesque, but yes, it's the exact same phenomenon. Nothing has changed. Yeah, I can't remember if it was Leo Pinsker or another one of their philosophers who said, basically said that if they don't have their innocence, if they can't proclaim their innocence, the jig is up.

They have to be innocent of everything that's ever, they've never done anything wrong, basically, ever. We saw that at a great expense in the Belis case. We just mentioned it. I have the feeling many Jews knew that the case was pretty good against him. so they formed organizations international organization raised millions of dollars to defend him and had he been convicted of course not a ritual murder there was no such thing uh in the russian law but of a disregular murder i had the feeling they had a plan to get him out get him out of the country or something like that and then say this was just pure anti-semitism because in the west at the time um as that trial was going on i know the western press i've seen the western press at the

time, well over a century ago where they were vehemently condemning the crap that these journalists were writing about Bayliss, making stuff up, you know, just this poor man who was dragged off the street or whatever they said. And so in the Bellis case, we saw that to a great extent. Of course, Dreyfus in France as well. Well, you know, Leo, somebody said this morning um you know how when black mothers come out and say my boy didn't do nothing my boy didn't do nothing wrong yeah didn't did the yeah that when it comes down to it this group right here are the original dindus we never we didn't do nothing wrong ever so ever that's true the the parisian zionist journal sunrise wrote in 1922 that gorky essentially said that

the growth of antisemitism is aided by the tactless behavior of the Jewish Bolsheviks themselves in many situations. That is the blessed truth. I'm pretty, Gorky wasn't Jewish. And Gorky wasn't speaking of Trotsky, Zinov, or Kamenev. He was speaking of the typical Jewish communists who occupies position in the academia, Presidia, and petty and mid-level Soviet institutions where he comes into contact with large swaths of the population. Such individuals occupy leading front-line positions which naturally multiplies their number in the mind of the public. Deep Hasmanic comments, quote,

We must admit that many Jews through their own actions provoke acute anti-Semitism. All the imprudent Jews filling the communist ranks, these pharmacists, shopkeepers, peddlers, dropouts, and pseudo-intellectuals are indeed causing much evil to Russia and Jewry. Hardly ever before inside of Russia or outside of Russia have Jews been the subject of such an active and concentrated hostility. It has never reached such an intensity nor been so widespread. This elemental hostility has been fed by the open and undeniable participation of Jews in destructive processes underway in Europe, as well as by the tales and exaggerations about such participation. A terrible anti-Semitic mood is taking hold, fed exclusively by,

Bolshevism, which continues to be identified with Jewry. Well, Pasmatic, for the most part, you know, is correct. He is a Jew. But even for one of them to say, yeah, what is it with pharmacists and shopkeepers? What do they hate them so much? They keep coming up as a cause of all of this. But I love dropouts and pseudo-intellectuals because they have mountains of them. And the argument is that their outrageous behavior at the mid and low levels,

Like a clerk at the DMV, someone like that, who threw his accent, because they, you know, didn't speak Russian. Some, you know, some had a heavier accent than others. You know he's a Jew and, or probably announced it. And they just, they just pissed everyone off almost deliberately. They somehow, you know, they transferred the old idea that they were going to be rescued by the Messiah by saying that this is. the Messiah part of the reason again why Zionism

was looked down upon at this time because we're creating it right here I think many Jews didn't believe that or maybe at the time they didn't and then he did it later but admitting this as that

Pasmanic does geez you know we're at a point here page 4 29 in our copy that you have Jews all over the place. The best argument we can make comes from Jewish sources.

We use them wherever possible. And, you know, they're saying far more than I think they even realize that 100 years later, we're going to be using this to show the world what the Jew is. Yeah, it isn't just Gaza. The same mentality existed then. and destroyed one of the most prosperous countries in the planet. Ukraine's same thing. Ukraine had the West, in this Jewish oligarchy, not taken over.

You have a high IQ population, the most educated population, the highest percentage of advanced degrees of any country in the world. They would be an absolute center of electronics and industry, everything else. But now they're a fourth world country. because the very same people took over. Whatever the ideology is, it's pretty much the same for whoever is victimized by it. And, of course, in Ukraine, there's the same laws against Judeophobia as they had in USSR at the time. But those laws couldn't be enforced if hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people were saying it.

Maybe not in public. But they also say that this is making us look bad. And that's probably the big motivation. In 1927, Mikhail Kozikov shot in 1930 after the food workers trial, wrote in a private letter to his brother overseas about the, quote, Judeophobic mood of the masses among non-party and party members. It is no secret that the mass of workers do not love the Jews. And Shulgin, after his secret trip to the USSR in 1928, says, no one says anymore that anti-Semitism is propaganded by the Tsar's government or an infection

limited to the drugs of society. Geographically, it spreads wider each day, threatening to engulf all of Russia. The main center today seems to be Moscow. Antisemitism is a new phenomenon in Great Russia, but is much more serious than old anti-Semitism in the South. Antisemitism of the South Russia was traditionally humorous and mitigated by anecdotes about Jews. Yeah, and they say the South, they mean Ukraine, the old pale of settlement. You had Jews under the Tsars in Moscow, out of everywhere, but not in enough numbers to do much. They irritated people. And, you know, even in the church services, Jews are mentioned in the negative all the time.

so they knew it just wasn't uh it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't transferred into personal experience every day to the point where they just just couldn't take it anymore um and what shulgan is saying here is that you know all the old stupid excuses shulgin is definitely i don't think it's a jewish name um all your stupid excuses that you've used in the past but now this has been proven untrue czar's government this nonsense because now we see the real reason. Now, even now, you'll have plenty of, you know, pretty much everyone in academia will use a stupid excuse. I've heard it.

I've dealt with it. I've fought it. But this book, this whole section we're reading now is so extraordinary because it's blowing all of their arguments out of the water. I still can't get over the fact that the Soviet government had to, issue was circular. I don't know if it was to everyone internationally or just a society or just the media justifying the fact that there were so many damn Jews in all these positions. That blows me away. That's all the information you need against somebody. Jews need to, I know this is impossible, but miracles do happen. Jews have to take responsibility.

collectively for their role in the U.S.S. arm. They demand this of Germans. They demand this of the Serbs. They demand this of Russians. They demand this of everybody. But there's one group of people who really desperately need to look at themselves is jewelry. But their mentality is such that they simply can't. You'll find a Jew once in a while. I've met a few of them. They tend to convert to other religions but um and they they after that you know most of the converts i know can't stand jews anymore and there's a reason why they converted but you know i i think it's a pipe dream i think that mentality um simply prevents the overwhelming majority of jews from really thinking about themselves if anything uh you know i used the word projection a lot the psychological

um the neurotic defense mechanism and they do this all the time they can't hand handle the vices in themselves. So then they project it onto people around them. And that's to be funny. It's really easy to see in Jewish discussion all over the place. Laren brings up an anti-Jewish slogan allegedly used for propaganda purposes by the white guards. Quote, Russians are sent to Naram, a location way up far in the north, and Jews to the Crimea, a vacation spot. The Soviet authorities eventually became seriously concerned with the rise of anti-Semitism.

In 1923, the Jewish Tribune writes, albeit with skepticism, quote, The Commissariat of Internal Affairs has established a commission to study the question of protecting the Jews from dark forces. Yeah, the checker wasn't enough. In 1926, Kalinin and other functionaries received many questions about Jews and letters in at meetings. As a result, Laren undertook a study of the problem in a book Jews and anti-Semitism in the USSR. From his own reports, queries and interviews taken, we can presume, from communists or communist sympathizers, he enumerates 66 questions from those the authorities received, recording them without editing the language. Among these questions.

Where are the Jews in Moscow coming from? Why is authority predominantly Jewish? How come Jews don't wait in line? How do Jews arriving from Berdicev and other cities immediately receive apartments? There is a joke that the last Jew left Berdicev and gave the keys to the city to Kalinin. Jeez. Why do Jews have money and own their own bakeries, et cetera? Why are Jews drawn to light work and not to physical labor?

Why do Jews in government service and in professions stick together and help each other while Russians do not? They do not walk to work at everyday jobs. but are concerned only with their careers why do they not farm even though it is not it is not allowed them why are jews given i'm sorry yeah it's now allowed them which is hilarious i'm sorry which even though is now allowed them yeah that's a funny question why are jews given good land in the crimea while russians are given inferior land why is party opposition 76% jewish there's translators note here that says the opposition to the general line of the party within the party itself why did anti-semitism develop only against jews and not against other nationalities that's a question i ask all the time and people

get pissed when that when i asked that question what should a group adjutop leader do when he tries to counter anti-semitic tendencies in his group and no one supports him oh my god All right, let me finish up and we'll, I think we have a stopping point right here. Laren suspects that these questions were dreamed up and spread among the masses by an underground organization of counter-revolutionaries. As we will see later, this is where some special, this is where some official explanations came from. But he fixates on the unexpected phenomenon and tries to address scientifically the question, how could anti-Semitism take hold in the USSR in those strata of society, factory worker students, where, before the revolution, it was little noted. His findings were

anti-Semitism against the intelligentsia. Among the intelligentsia, anti-Semitism is more developed than in any group. However, he maintains a dissatisfaction rises not from the large number of Jews, but from the fact that Jews presumed to enter into competition with the Russian intelligentsia for government jobs. The obvious development of anti-Semitic attitudes among city clerks and workers by 1928 cannot be explained by excessive numbers of Jews claiming jobs. That's a quote. Among the intellectual professions, anti-Semitic tendencies are felt in the medical sphere and in engineering. The army has good political training and there is no anti-Semitism there, even though the command staff of the Red Army has a significantly higher percent of Jews than are present in the country as a whole.

well because they'll kill them yeah these questions are beautiful I you know I read this book many times before somehow this escaped me I forgot about them these are we could ask these today but of course my favorite

is what to the group at the prop leader these are official you know meetings to to radicalize an area what should they do when he tries to counter anti-Semitic tendencies in his group and no one supports him. You wouldn't ask that question

unless it's happened before, unless it happens all the time. And as a defense mechanism, they say, oh, this must have been dreamt up by a some underground kind of revolutionary group. This can't be serious. This can't be real. And,

you know, the intelligence. You know, then he, okay, do you want to finish the different groups or is that too long? yeah let's let's uh let's let's do that yeah there's only a couple more okay so um anti-semitism among the urban bourgeoisie quote the root of anti-semitism is found in urban bourgeoisie philistianism philistianism but the battle against anti-semitism among the bourgeoisie it is mixed in with the question of the destruction of the bourgeoisie in general

The anti-Semitism of the bourgeoisie will disappear when the bourgeoisie disappears. Lordy. Antisemitism in the countryside. Quote, we have almost completely pushed out the private trader of the peasant's grain. Therefore, among the peasant masses, anti-Semitism is not showing itself and has even weakened amongst its pre-war levels. Now it appears only in those areas where Jews have been resettled on the land, allegedly from Kulox and former landowners. anti-semitism among the working class anti-semitism among the workers has grown noticeably stronger in recent years by 1929 there could be no doubt of its existence now it occurs with more frequency and intensity than a few years ago it is particularly strong among the backwards parts of the working class women and seasonal workers however an anti-semitic mood can be observed among a broad spectrum of workers not only among the corrupted fringe and here economic competition is not a factor. It arises even where there is no such competition. Jews make up

only 2.7% of the working class. In the lower level professional organizations, they try to paint over anti-Semitism. Difficulties arise because attempts to hide anti-Semitism come from the active proletariat itself. Indeed, anti-Semitism originates with the active proletariat. In many cases, party members and members of Kamsimal demonstrate anti-Semitism. Talk of Jewish dominance is particularly widespread, and in meetings, one hears complaints that the Soviet authority limits itself to battle with the Orthodox religion alone. Read the next paragraph, because it's hilarious. What savagery? Antisemitism among the proletariat? How could this occur in the most progressive and politically aware class in the world? Laren finds that it arose because, quote, no other means

remained for the White Guard to influence the masses besides anti-Semitism. Its plan of action moves along the rails of anti-Semitism. This was a theory that was to have frightening consequences. Now that's a great place to stop. These questions are absolutely

extraordinary. Very fact that they're admitting here that this Jewish party claims to be the representative of the working class historically is barely, you know, they had no workers. They have no connection with the workers. They didn't know workers. But this, this, well, even within, you know, their workers, they claim to be representative of these people, but we know they're not.

We've talked about this going back to the Revolution of 1905. But these workers hate them. And it doesn't matter what, backwards, but I love these generalities, women and seasonal workers. I don't know what's backwards specifically about them, but no, they say it's even broader than that. Economic competition is always a terrible excuse, unless, of course, the competition is unfair. Every one of these explanations is incredibly stupid. But even in the stupidity, I mean, these people aren't stupid. Their explanations are stupid.

they're struggling so hard to say anything no matter what to take the blame off of themselves they're admitting a lot more than i think they realize but these answers to those questions basically i think these are summary um is absolutely extraordinary now i think the the equation quote about the army because they were already starting the political commissar thing the political commissar was usually Jewish, not always, and he followed the officer around. No officer could possibly like that. So I think anti-Semitism grew pretty fast. There. But these explanations, you know, remember, as I've said, Lenin said many, many times. Anti-Semitism is inherently counter-revolutionary. It's inherently anti-Soviet. To be anti-Soviet,

to be kind of revolutionary is to be an anti-Semite and sometimes i wonder if lennon really realized the implications of that statement which he made a hundred times and others did too less powerful than him um and schultzhenitin's response is pretty funny you know how could this possibly occur uh everything that they wanted they have you know this is supposed to be they're building a paradise right this they're supposed to be doing but Obviously, that's not the case. The worst explanation, though, is no other means remain for the whites to influence a mess besides anti-Semitism. That was it.

Nothing else. Not the burning down of churches. Not the starvation, not famine. They needed to talk about Jews. Well, in all those cases, Jews do come up. But these are just, I guess, for Jews or supporters at the time, liberals at the time, anywhere in the Western world, they worked so long as you didn't have to think about it too much. That was probably the majority of people. If you thought about it for more than five seconds, you realize how stupid they are. You know, when you listen to some of the modern

lunatics that we've talked about today, the Randy Fines and the Mark Levins, when you read this sentence here, it says talking about anti-Semitism in the countryside, now it appears only in those areas where Jews have been resettled on the land, allegedly land taken from Kulox and, you know, the former owners of the land, and now settled. settled by Jews. I mean, there are people in this country who are looking around and they're going, I can't afford a house. I can't. I mean, everything seems to be falling apart around me. And we're sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Israel. And our politicians are going to conferences held by Jews and basically saying that you're, you can't, you don't care about the United

States. You don't care about America. you support Israel. You don't care about this unless you support Israel. You're not MAGA unless you support Israel. You're not America first unless you support Israel. And then they wonder why people, and then they wonder why people are like going, you know, asking the Jewish question that always gets asked at this point in fucking civilization. In any nations, in any nation that has them in it, it gets to this fucking point where people go, why are they dominating and why are we put on the back burner? Why did my family, you know, my family didn't come here in the 1600s, but I have friends

that are like, look, my family came here in the 1600s, you know, 150 years before this was even, you know, America, why the fuck are these people in line in front of me? And why are all the politicians who are supposed to be serving me, don't care about me, look down upon me and call me a fucking anti-Semite if I start asking these questions. Well, I don't mind being called an anti-Semite, but for many people in the public eye, yeah, they can't afford it. I never thought I lived this either day that ordinary people would be asking questions like this, let alone people of influence asking questions like this.

Netanyahu is probably the one of the causes. He's created anti-Semites all over the planet. But that has bled over into other things. Economics and looking at, you know, people like fine. Now, what conference was that? You told me about that. What's the name of the conference? Oh, the Jewish, the Jewish conservative.

I have to look it up. Okay. Yeah. So is it basically a Jewish conservative conference? Yeah, it's like Jewish Republican, Jewish Republican coalition. Yeah, Jewish Republican coalition. It was in, it was in Las Vegas hilariously. Yeah, right.

Well, Bugsie Siegel. The point being, of course, they're trying to come up with solutions, damage control. But talking like fine. No, I've heard. find say crazy things before. But this is something else. He was losing it. There's there's panic. There's tremendous panic. It's not like they can run to Israel now. That would be a rough, rough thing. Dubai is too expensive for even a congressman, maybe. They're struggling. And now what they might do in retaliation, that's a separate issue. And that could

go in any direction. But Candice Owens, I can't believe it. She's talking about it every day. And that little midget demon, what's his face? Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, are being raked over the coals by ordinary mainline conservatives like her. We're living in wonderful times. Remember, the Soviet, Union collapsed almost overnight in peacetime. No war going on. It just imploded. No one predicted that or, you know, no one in power predicted that. A few years earlier, a few months earlier, no one, no one, everyone thought it was, you know, going to stay, reform and stay there forever. And it felt the pieces. Things can change rapidly. And all our

listeners need to keep that very much in mind yeah yeah all right um please go to the show notes and go to the descriptions and the videos and donate to dr johnson's work um these last co i hope you getting a lot out of these last couple episodes because these last couple episodes are really starting to paint the picture of you know when we talk about how yeah the bolsheviks were not all jews but they had overwhelming influence and leadership positions And when people tell you they don't, here's the evidence they do. They did with names, with people, with Jews who are writing articles about why is everybody so anti-Semitic.

Oh, because so many of these people are Jewish and everyone's noticing. So they're lying to you, whether they're lying to you on purpose or they just don't out of ignorance. I tend to like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But, you know, it's sometimes it gets so ridiculous. you just have to believe that they're just lying. Because, you know, you see that a lot. Special pleading.

Yeah, yeah. All right, Dr. Johnson. Talk to in a few days. Thank you. All right, my friend. See you then. I'm going to be. You know,