The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 91

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

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The Pekignana Show.com. Everything's there. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenycin. This is episode 91. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? this book this book is going to kill me this book on the ukraine war it's going to be out tomorrow you know uh maybe even today um i got up at 11 uh this morning because i was just working at it and and making sure everything was you know it's just uh um i am so sick of it i'm telling

you man i am so sick of this thing that's that's what i know i have to publish something when i'm so sick of it i don't even want to look at it that's okay now it gets published yeah writing about something i i couldn't imagine trying to write about something that's ongoing because so much you know happens yeah well i yeah and and i have to be you know there's there's books out already on it um same thing for the iraq war and everything else um but you know i make it very clear you know this is you know there's a lot of history in there and There's a lot of things, we know, weaponry and stuff like that. So, yeah, I understand.

This is the first time I'm actually doing a book about an ongoing event. So, you know, the U.S. is never going to give up trying to hurt Russia for some reason. But this gambit failed badly. And two million Ukrainian men were. were killed and it's it's a crime it's someone has to pay for this well i mean i think with the reading we're doing we know why we at least we have partial reason why uh the u.s wants to destroy russia yes all right let's pick up what we left off last time all right a vicious battle for the dominance within the party was waged between trotsky and Stalin from

1923 to 1927. Later, Zinoviev fought for first place, equally confident of his chances. In 1926, Zinov and Kaminov, deceived by Stalin, united with Trotsky, the United Opposition, that is, three of the most visible Jewish leaders turned out on one side. Not surprisingly, many of the lower-ranked Trotskyites were Jewish. Agorski cites A. Seliga, exiled with Trotsky in the Europe. Quote, indeed, the Trotskyites were young Jewish intellectuals and technicians, particularly from left bundists. Quote, the opposition was viewed as principally Jewish, and this greatly alarmed Trotsky. In March of 1924, he complained to Bucharin that among the workers, it is openly stated, the kikes are rebelling,

and he claimed to have received hundreds of letters on the topic. Bukharin dismissed it as trivial. Then, quote, Trotsky tried to bring the question of anti-Semitism to a Politburo session, but no one supported him, end quote. More than anything, Trotsky feared that Stalin would use popular anti-Semitism against him in their battle for power. And such was partially the case against Uglanov, then secretary of the Moscow Committee of the CP. Quote, anti-Semitic cries were heard, end quote, during Uglinov's dispersal of pro-Trottsky demonstration. in Moscow, November 7th, 1927. You know, so much of today's left comes from this very battle.

Trotky, in their imagination, represents the best of the USSR. You know, he should have taken power. It would have been a wonderful, would have been a utopia by now, despite the fact that they were identical when it came to basic policy. Now, when he was in exile, of course he's going to criticize the party in Stalin for, you know, for a lot of things. But if he were in power, he would have done the same thing. It has to be made very clear that Trotsky and Stalin were basically identical when it came to ideology and even policy. When he was head of the Red Army, I mean, there was no doubt.

Now, as far as the Jewish issue at this point, well, and actually, I learned this from, well, from many others, but but from Shultanitin, too, we'll get into this issue that, you know, he, Stalin did not use this, this so-called anti-Semitism. He continued to enforce Lenin's decree. So I just I just we need to destroy the myth that Stalin was really that different from Lenin. The different differences that Stalin, you know, was in a much better position and much more secure position than Lenin was. Maybe Stalin considered playing the anti-Semitism card against the United Opposition, but his superior political instinct led him away from that. He understood that Jews were numerous in the party at that time and could be a powerful force. against him if his actions were to unite them against him. They were also needed in order to maintain support from the West and would be a further use to him personally. He never parted from

his beloved assistant Lev Meckles and from the Civil War at Saritzen, his faithful aide, Moses Rukimovich. I noticed how you started reading more slowly at that point. You know, the very concept of support from the West, it isn't like they were ignorant as to what was going on in the USSR under Stalin. They simply lied about it. Intellectuals began their long march through the institutions, as they call it, taking over universities and the rest.

The media already was dominated by Jews. And of course, he's also talking about the, the major financial institutions in London. But it does make a mockery of Marxism. You know, Marxism says if, you know, the communists come to power someplace, the world's going to unite against them. The capitalist is going to unite against them, which in a superficial way kind of makes sense.

But nope, they saw an opportunity, not an enemy. Well, what I saw in that half a sentence was that, the West knew that this movement in Russia was Jewish, which they will not, which no one will admit now. Yeah, the closest you can get is Churchill, the world crisis. He does mention, well, not in that book, Communism or Zionism, I think, is the article. You know, it was very well-known. Churchill mentions it publicly. Even under Stalin, it didn't matter.

And keep in mind, despite the Jews, you know, Trotsky's movement was almost entirely Jewish. There were many, many, many Jews close to Stalin in the party, regardless, who were in opposition to Trotsky. So Stalin was not this anti-Semitic lunatic, like is depicted. But as Stalin's personal power grew towards the end of the 20s, a number of Jews in the Soviet apparatus began to fall off. It was no accident that he sent eunects to take photographs among the Jewish delegates at a Workers and Peasants Conference during the height of the struggle for party dominance. Yaroslovsky writes in Pravda, quote, incidents of anti-Semitism are the same whether they are used against the opposition or used by the opposition in its fight against the party. they are an attempt to use any weakness, any fissures in the dictatorship of the proletariat. There is nothing more stupid or reactionary than to explain the roots of opposition to the

dictatorship of the proletariat as related to the nationality of this or the opposition group member or that opposition group member. At the same party Congress, the 25th, where the united opposition was decisively broken, Stalin directed Ord-Kand-Kids to specifically address the national question in his report to the Central Committee as if in defense of Jews. Statistics from the report were discussed earlier in this chapter. Quote, the majority of the apparatus is Russian, so any discussion of Jewish dominance has no basis whatsoever. End quote. At the 26-party conference in 1930, Stalin declared great Russian chauvinism to be the main day.

of the national question. Thus, at the end of the 20s, Stalin did not carry out his plan, purged of the party and government apparatus of Jews, but encouraged their expansion in many fields, places, and institutions. Yeah, this is, this is key. This is a key issue, a key statement. Yeah, it's true that the Trotskyites were very, very Jewish. It's not a coincidence. but great Russian chauvinism is nothing more than Russian nationalism.

Russians weren't allowed to even be a part of even the mismanagement, the Communist Party of their own country. So this kind of removed the idea that Stalin was this nationalist. Now he used some of the symbols during the war, but it went away as soon as the war was over. over. So don't let, you know, the war, that was, that was something he just had to do. It was just a matter of rallying the population.

So he knew by doing that, that he, you know, this party was not particularly popular. He didn't really have a right to rule. The only way he can get people behind him is if he used things that he was vehemently against, you know, especially, you know, as the population was going down from, the collectivization, the workers were, in these factories were worked almost to death in the early era of industrialization. You know, the funny thing is, if the czarists had remained, Russia would have been a firmly industrialized power.

You can be an industrialized power without being liberal, without being a part of the global regime. You can be industrialized without having this liberal democracy, even though he was quite representative. And on the local level, there was tremendous democracy largely on an ethnic basis. So at this point, they were nowhere near what the Tsarist government was in terms of output and everything in 1913.

At the 25th Congress in December 1927, the time had come to address the looming peasant question. What to do with the presumptuous peasantry, which had the temerity to ask for manufactured goods in exchange for their grain? Molotov delivered the main report on this topic, and among the debaters were the murderers of the peasantry, Schlichter and Yaakovlev Epstein. A massive war against a peasantry lay ahead, and Stalin could not afford to alienate any of his reliable allies, and probably thought that in this campaign against a disproportionately Slavic population, it would be better to rely on Jews than on Russians. He preserved the Russian majority in the Guzbollah.

The commanding heights of the Jewish majority. I'm sorry, he preserved the Jewish majority in the Gussblen. The commanding heights of collectivization and its theory included, of course, Laren. Lev Kritzman was director of the Agrarian Institute from 1928. As assistant to the president of the Gospin, in 1931 through 33, he played a faithful role in the persecution of Kondrativ and Shayanov. Yakov, Yaakov Lev Epstein, took charge of People's Commissariat of Agriculture in 1929. Before that, he worked in propaganda field. He was in charge of the head department of political education since 1921. Later, in the Agitprop Division of Central Committee and in charge of

press division of Central Committee. His career in agriculture began in 1923 when during the 13th Party Congress, he drafted resolutions on agricultural affairs. And thus, he led the great change, the imposition of collectivization on millions of peasants with its zealous implementers on the ground. A contemporary writer reports, for the first time ever, a significant number of young Jewish communists arrived in rural communities as commanders and lords over life and death. Only during collectivization did the characterization of the Jew as the hated enemy of the peasant take hold, even in those places where Jews had never been seen before. There's no denying it. We've talked about this before as far as Jews being placed in Jews who would despise agriculture.

How many hours have we spent on that in the Tsarist era? And now, despite having zero background in the issue, never formed a day in their life, they're placed in charge of collectivization. Collectivization was a very nasty process. People were thrown together. There were tons of peasant rebellions, and they were put down with extreme violence. Of course, the West knew all about it. And this was the model that was done in every other communist country in the world after World War II.

Russia's population was going down. I mean, sorry, the Soviet Union's population was going down at this point. And these Jews, you imagine, you're a farmer, you're barely eking a living thanks to the Soviet. And now these, some 20-year-old Jew armed, you know, comes in and starts telling you, okay, you've got to pack up. you know we're shutting down you know it's it's uh it's it's extraordinary to even think about what that was like um there was a massive uh essentially mass murder of the peasantry at this point they were totally against this remember the collective is very different from the communal like uh the collective is just random unrelated people the state forces that

The communal, of course, is what Russia had for centuries, which the Soviets destroyed. The collectivization was, you know, creating these units, often very large units. Even the Chinese tried to, you know, have the collective raising of children, everything else. Stalin tried that too. You know, as we mentioned, Sunday was abolished.

And so many of these peasants ended up rebelling. And so you had essentially a massive civil war going on before the German invasion in 1941. But, you know, I love to seeing these guys, these Jews who wouldn't know a hoe from a and either propagandists or writers. And Stalin puts them in charge of farming. It's having no clue whether they're. talking about. In other words, it's strictly political. And this was the beginning of true genocide in the Soviet system, and it's something that is inherent to Marxism in general. Of course, regardless of the percentage is used in the party in Soviet apparatus,

it would be a mistake to explain the ferocious anti-peasant plan of communism as due to Jewish participation. A Russian could have been found in the place of Yakovlev Epstein, That's sufficiently clear from our post-October history. I don't know why he's talking like that. I don't know who he's. He's trying to please somebody. I mean, he's maybe he's technically right. But there was a reason why Epstein was put in that spot.

They were aware that they hated the peasantry, and the peasantry hated them going back millennium. So, yeah, it is. You're right. It's just, you know, trying to placate somebody. I'm not really sure who he's talking to there. But, you know, yeah, you could have put a rush in there. But he deliberately placed a Jew there,

knowing full well the Jewish hatred of the peasantry and of agriculture. So, yeah, that's, I don't like that at all. The cause and consequences of decoulicization and collectivization were not only social and economic. The millions of victims of these programs were not a faceless mass, but real people with traditions and cultures cut off from their roots and spiritually killed. In its essence, decolicization was not a socioeconomic measure, but a measure taken against a nationality. The strategic blow against the Russian people who were the main obstacle to victory of communism was conceived of by Lenin, but carried out after his death. In those years, communism with all its cruelty was directed mostly against Russians.

It is amazing that not everything has perished during those days. Collectivization, more than any other policy of the communists, gives it the lie to the conception of Stalin's dictatorship as nationalists, i.e. Russian. This is, this paragraph, this paragraph is tremendous. So much of what was happening is summarized here. The Kulak, the Russian word for Fist, it refers to, you know, anyone, essentially, it didn't really have a definition. If you can hire somebody at harvest time, you were at Kulak. That's essentially what it was. It wasn't, you know, wealthy landlords.

you know like they would love love you to believe um i also you know i discovered that that koolock uh and it's much older of uh use of the word could also mean a dumbbell an idiot um and i found that in a russian dictionary i was consulting once uh it's not used that way anymore but so um but as i said already said this is not really an economic issue it's it's a social issue um and the point of course cutting them off from their roots that that's the point people without roots don't rebel there's no basis on which to rebel um traditions and culture are the foundation for it and um this this you know this part of this sentence here the strategic blow against the Russian people who were the main obstacle to the victory of communism.

And you have people out there talking about, you know, the Russian communism, the Russian, you know, Soviet Russian, which is a contradiction in terms. And he is absolutely correct. He's also correct to, you know, make sure that Lenin is part of it, because he did start this. let him with around long enough you know and a Russian nationalist movement for Stalin was terrifying and this is why Stalin

always remained pro-Jewish because of course the Jews thought the same thing and yeah he's you know so many and this is also the nationalist in Russia today

I am constantly battling you know Stalin is seen as a positive figure by you know some of the national bolsheviks and stuff I don't know if that's fading or not but a while ago it was it was pretty regular and I just don't

you know this this makes a mockery of it yeah you can you could talk about a national bolivism but only you know in the 70s and 80s when the Soviet Union was on its way to collapse, but certainly not now. The party at its height was Judaic

and its main focus was, again, I should have to include Ukraine too. Any concept of these roots, these spiritual roots especially, had to be destroyed for this to work. The collectivization, the way it was conceived, you can't have national, you know, you can't have traditionalist people, which, of course, the peasants were. And this is why so many of them were murdered. This is

why you had a civil war going on. And the West was aware of it. It didn't matter. They still invested heavily in the USSR. You know, they invent things about Putin. She's a nationalist of a sort. But they had real issues with Stalin and they didn't care. You know, it makes such a mockery of the traditional history of the 20th century. The entire history of the 20th century has to be rewritten, and this is part of the reason why. Regarding the Jewish role in collectivization, it is necessary to remember that Jewish communists participated efficiently and diligently. Quoting a third wave immigrant who grew up in Ukraine, I remember my

father, my mother, aunts, uncles, all worked on collectivization with great relish, completing five-year plans in four years and writing novels about life in factories. In 1927, Nizvestia declared, there is no Jewish question here. The October Revolution gave a categorical answer long ago. All nationalities are equal. That was the answer. However, when the dispossessors entering the peasant huts were not just commasars but Jewish commasars, the question still glowered in the distance. Yeah, there's so many works of art from the time. One of my favorites is Easter Sunday where it's a painting and, you know, the church is packed and you see with obviously a Jewish man trying to break it up with, you know, with a handful of others. and of course they did

that was pretty regular they did it all the time there's no collectivization killed so many people and it was deliberate there was a war going on in essence and there was no peasant

at the end of this and this is why the Germans were welcomed and they messed it up they should have taken this more seriously I don't think they got the best intelligence they had a terrible guy working in Ukraine, Koch, the SS, who was a disaster.

I frankly think he was working for Stalin. But this concept, great relish, you know, they hate these people. Communism had nothing to do with economics. They weren't working in the factory. They weren't collectivized. They were above that. They were treated very well. And, you know, frankly, Trotsky didn't really have a problem with it.

Now, as the Vestia article in 1927, you know, all nationalities are equal. We could write that on paper. But there was one nationality that was exploited beyond belief, and that was the Russian. At the end of the 20s, writes S. Ettinger, in all the hardship of life in the USSR, to many it seemed that Jews, were the only group which gained from the revolution. They were found in important government positions. They made up a large proportion of university students. It was rumored that they received the best land in the Crimea

and have flooded into Moscow. Half a century later, June 1980, at a Columbia University conference about the situation of Soviet Jewry, I heard scholars describe the marginalized status of Jews in the USSR are, and in particular, how Jews were offered the choice of either emigration or denying their roots, beliefs, and culture in order to become part of a denationalized society. Bah, that was what was required of all peoples in the 20s under the threat of Solofki prison camp, and immigration was not an alternative.

The golden era of the 20s cries out for a sober appraisal. Yeah, and more than that, more than just the 20s. I couldn't handle being an academic today. I've grown so much in terms of knowledge. I couldn't listen to this. I'd be fighting all the time because this is your typical academic point of view. Jews, the anti-Semitism that occurred, you know, there was, and this has to be understood. I think it started in the 70s.

There was a Stalin genocide denial movement, mainstream academic. You had a few writers who, just at that time, put out things. It wasn't Stalin's fault. You know, so, it was almost, and you have people who do the same thing as far as Hitler goes, and they go to prison, but it's perfectly acceptable to deny this in Stalin's era. That became an academic fad. I don't know if it still is. But it was an academic fad in the 70s, maybe in the early 80s.

A whole bunch of things came out saying Stalin was not this mass murderer. You know, it was, you know, and Jews were, of course, being murdered too. And frankly, there's simply no evidence for any of this. Solzhenitin is absolutely right. And so right now, mainline histories. of the Soviet Union are pretty much worthless. Those years were filled with the cruelest persecution based upon class distinction, including persecution of children on account of the former life of their parents,

a life which the children did not even see. But Jews were not among these children or parents. The clergy, part of the Russian character, centuries in the making, was hounded to death in the 20s. Though not majority Jewish, too often the people saw Jews directing the special ecclesiastical departments of the GPU, which worked in this area. Yeah, and Solznytsin has written this before. There was no question about it.

This is one particular area where the Jews dominated entirely. It was throwing the clergy in prison. And by prison, I mean the camps. Solzhenitsyn talks, even in the Gulag archipelago, he talks about. The church was almost entirely wiped out. And it's because of this Jewish enthusiasm for it. Of course, you know, like it says in the first paragraph here, the Jews were not among these children or parents. No, they, while being personally often very wealthy, were considered proletarians because they were the heart of the party.

Yeah, of course, there's only so many, you know, in the world, which is why they're getting these. crazy positions having no background but you don't need a majority you know jews are so cohesive that you don't need a majority for them to take over you need a handful and since anti-semitism was illegal even very minor acts and words were illegal you couldn't say anything about it so as far as the persecution of the church the destruction of monasteries and all that that was entirely Jewish. And they'll never, ever take responsibility. They'll never, you know, Jews are just incapable of looking at themselves objectively.

And it's very depressing. A wave of trials of engineers took place from the end of the 20s through the 30s. An entire class of older engineers was eliminated. The group was overwhelmingly Russian with a small number of Germans. Study of Russian history, archaeology, and folklore were suppressed. The Russians could not have a past. No one from the persecutors would be accused of having their own national interest. It must be noted that the commission was prepared the decree abolishing the history

and the philology departments at Russian universities was made up of Jews and non-Jews alike. Goikbar, Glarin, Radik, and Robsdien, as well as Bukharin, M. Pokrovsky, scores of the blah blah blah yeah it was signed into existence by lenin in march 1921 the spirit of the decree was itself an example of nationalist hatred it was the history and language of the great russians that was no longer needed during the 20s the very understanding of Russian history was changed there was none and the understanding of what a great Russian has changed there was no such thing and this is one of the worst parts of the revolution um remember the definition of a revolution

is that all aspects of society are overturned. No, I mean, everything, which takes, of course, the totalitarian system to do it. The American Revolution is, it's not a revolution. It was simply a movement for independence. No, a revolution tries to start everything from zero.

The French started that with, you know, year one, Pol Pot did the same thing. Every single aspect of human life was overturned and, you know, given to the party to control. And, of course, at this, you know, at this point, there was the beginning of the technology here to do it. The camps were up and running. Many of the camps built, by the way, by Western corporations. That's in, what's his name's book? I forget which volume.

But, you know, Stalin knew and his Jewish friends knew that rebellion comes from having roots. There's social trust if you're going to create a movement. And without shared roots, there is no trust. There is no reason to sacrifice except to avoid getting shot. But, you know, this decree abolishing Jews and non-Jews alike, okay, you know, that's true. But the Jews were a huge part of it, disproportionate, obviously. And when he says, the spirit of the decree is itself an example of nationalist hatred. I think you're referring to Jewish nationalism there.

but but again Lenin created this it was brought to fruition by Stalin and this is a true definition of genocide it's not just the murderer of people it's the attempted destruction of an entire culture keeping people ignorant on purpose people talk about you know the increase in literacy in the USSR well the czaristera 19th century had high literacy rates. But, you know, it went up in the Soviet era. And, well, to read what? To read their propaganda and their nonsense. This is what children were taught. In collectivization, you had collective schools where they were taught all of this. And if to the extent that there is a Russian history, it was a bad one. We know how white men

kids are taught about their own history in the U.S. and how it, you know, the murder of Indians, murder of slaves, whatever it might be, and completely cut them off from any, this is a long-standing tactic. And it seems that the only people who are allowed to have a history are Jews on the one hand, on the other hand, those who they favor at the moment. And what was most painful, we Russians ourselves walked along this suicidal path. The very period of the 20s was considered the dawn of liberated culture, liberated from czarism and capitalism. Even the word Russian, such as I Am Russian, sounded like a counter-revolutionary cry, which I well remember from my childhood. But without hesitation, everywhere was heard and printed Rusupiati.

Pravda published a following in a prominent place. in 1925 by V. Alexandrovsky, not known for any other contribution. Ruse, have you rotted, fallen, and died? Well, here's to your eternal memory. You shuffle your crutches scraping along. Your lips smeared with soot from icons. Over your vast expanses, the raven cow, a cause. You have guarded your grave dream. Old woman, blind and stupid. Yeah, that's, it's a poem. And it's not a very good poem. There's nothing really symbolic about it.

Excuse me. You know, it's vicious, clearly. You know, soot from icons, blind and stupid. That's not exactly how you write poetry, but it's this proof of this contempt. And if it's in Pravda, it's official policy. It's utter contempt for Russians. and specifically Russian Orthodox. And it led to the murder of millions, as we all know.

V. Bloom in Moscow evening could brazenly demand the removal of history's garbage from the square, city squares. To remove Minen-Pazarski monument from the Red Square, to remove the monuments to Russia's thousand-year anniversary in Novgorod and a statue of St. Vladimir on the hill in Kiev, quote, those tons of metal are needed for raw material. The ethnic coloring of the new names has already been noted. Yeah, we had a whole battle about monuments in public parks in this country. I think we all know about that. But they always had a reason.

You know, we need the metal or some nonsense like that. they always have this stupid reason. It's like the current Ukrainian so-called president shutting down Russian, well, Ukrainian Orthodox churches because they have some connection to Russia. He has to give some reason. And therefore, they're subversive.

And there have been fights. There have been battles. But these guys know they're going to be drafted or worse if they fight back. It's just disgusting. Swept to glory by the political changes and distinguished by political shamelessness, David Zazlovsky demanded the destruction of the studios of Igor Grebar used to restore ancient Russian art, finding that reverend artist fathers were trying again to fuse the church and art.

Russia's self-mortification reflected in the Russian language with the depth, beauty, and richness of meaning were repatriated. placed by an iron stamp of Soviet conformity. We have not forgotten how it looked at the height of the decade. Russian patriotism was abolished forever, but the feelings of the people will not be forgotten. Not how it felt to see the Church of the Redeemer blown up by the engineer, Javelkin, and the main mover behind that was Kaganovich, who wanted to destroy St. Basil's Cathedral as well. Russian Orthodoxy was publicly harassed by warrior atheists, led by

Gubelman Yaroslavsky. It is truthfully noted, quote, that Jewish communists took part in the destruction of churches was particularly offensive. No matter how offensive the participation of sons of Russian peasants in the persecution of the church, the part played by each non-Russian was even more offensive, end quote. This went against the Russians saying, quote, if you manage to snatch a room in the house, don't throw the God out. You know, I have a whole paper out.

I don't even know where it's published on Gububov and Erislavski. He was the head of the godless five-year plan going to peasant villages and now, you know, collectives and preaching to them, you're trying to be essentially atheist missionaries and, you know, mocking, you know, they ripped open the graves of saints and stuff like that. and blowing up these beautiful churches. So you had Russians, even if they weren't particularly, you know, religious, this was still a stupid thing to do. This is just, you know, the Judaic insanity.

I do not believe that this was, somehow this revolution was entirely Russian. I don't think this would be happening. I don't think there would be, there would be, there certainly would be no, I think if Russians somehow overthrew the Tsar at the height of their power and popularity and prosperity, somehow it would be some liberal system, some liberal democratic system, something like the U.S. or Britain at the time, this fanaticism, blowing up, you know, shutting down art studios, some old man, You know, this was Gubberman, Yeroslowski, but on Stalin's orders.

Stalin, you know, was well aware of this. Now, I've read a few books by Gubberman, Yaroslowski. They're written very fast. They're clearly written on orders. Not a whole lot of citations. But the point was propaganda. You know, you couldn't read the church fathers, but you had, Gubelman's book there on the shelf.

That's why you have an increase in literacy in the USSR. And there was, yes, the attempt, Dershavin, of course, a Jew, wanted to destroy St. Basil's Cathedral, but Stalin, you know, that would have been too much. There's too many people who know that. It's so central to Russian identity. Maybe people in the West would be worried about it. But remember, Westerners, Western governments had no problem with this they continued to trade there was no sanctions ever placed on on the soviet union

never happened not once this era um so Stalin would would he'd have a few pet churches around and he'd bring i know i mentioned this before but he'd bring the um you know religious people over the you know the world council of churches people over um and say see there's full religious freedom here and you'd have a priest say yes there's full religious feet have religious freedom here. These idiots would then go back and say, oh, this talk about the persecution of the church's nonsense. I met the clergy over there. And it happened all the time. The Archbishop of Canterbury was particularly stupid in this era because he was one of the ones that Stalin invited over and, you know, showed this Potemkin village. And, you know,

And, you know, the media wasn't talking about any persecution. So it was just rumor at this point. And he preached from the pulpit. There is no, there's full religious freedom in U.S. and so on. It's right in their constitution. You know, because it's on paper. It must be a reality.

But the elites were aware that the camps were run by clergy, Orthodox people, dissidents of all stripes, and the Gulag archipelage. Archipelago, as Sultanesean termed it, was growing and growing and growing and growing to the point where it became, I don't know, produced maybe 10 to 12 percent of the, of Russian output, I mean, sorry, of Soviet output, depending on who you read. But Jews were particularly excited about the destruction of churches and the murder of clergy. In the words of A. Voronell,

The 20s were perceived by the Jews as a positive opportunity, while for the Russian people, it was a tragedy. True, the Western leftist intellectuals regarded Soviet reality even higher. Their admiration was not based on nationality, but upon ideas of socialism. Who remembers the lightning crack of the firing squad executing 48 food workers for having caused the great famine rather than Stalin? The wreckers in the meat, fish, conserves, and produce trade. Among these unfortunates were not less than 10 Jews.

What would it take to end the world's enchantment with Soviet power? Doris Sturman attentively followed the efforts of B. Brutzkus to raise a protest among Western intellectuals. He found some who had protests, Germans and rightists. Albert Einstein hot-headedly signed the protest, but then withdrew his signature. without embarrassment because the Soviet Union had achieved a great accomplishment and Western Europe will soon envy you. The recent execution by firing squad was an isolated incident, quote unquote. Also, quote, from this, one cannot exclude the possibility that they were guilty, end quote. Romain Roland

maintained a noble silence. Arnold Zhvig barely stood up to the communist rampage. At least he didn't withdraw his signature, but said the settling of accounts was an ancient Russian method. And if true, what then should be asked of the academic luff in Russia who was prompting Einstein to remove his signature? You know, after the Vietnam War was over, Joan Baez, who of course was one of the most vehement, you know, musician, but vehement anti-war, a pro-north people, she went over there a few others and came back and said oh boy maybe we were wrong in fact there are a whole bunch of people who went over there and came back even even on guided tours we were wrong this is this is we were on the wrong side here um it didn't really matter

but the communist dictatorships have been given a pass you know there is no so you come in saying that you're you know you're a Marxist you're a Maoists despite killing you know 40 million people you know it's okay you don't get fired for that you get tenure for that but a national socialist totally different story to say the least. In fact, it's illegal in places like Germany, most of the EU. You know, what would it take to end the world's enchantment with Soviet power? Well, I know what it took. It was the refusal to let Jews emigrate to Israel.

That occurred in the 70s, but that's what it took. You know, it's just absolutely... Then all of a sudden, the Soviet Union was bad because it wouldn't let Jews emigrate to Israel. Now, of course, there were some intellectuals even leftist ones who knew what was going on. Einstein was, you know, this has happened all over the place. The Soviet Union was the wave of the future. however national socialism which actually you know worked especially economically worked very well was just the most evil disgusting thing ever and it had not to be destroyed but everyone

involved in it had to be murdered no one has paid for this kind of thing uh no one has been called to account for this um western intellectuals there's a whole there's several books on them. I have a paper on it, of course. I have paper on all this stuff. I have a lot to answer for. You know, who's that idiot? The linguists from MIT.

I'm terrible with names. Chomsky. Chomsky. He supported Mao. He supported Paul Pot. It doesn't matter. Hasn't affected his reputation. at all.

Yeah, there's an Einstein quote that sounds kind of strange, but when you understand that he was saying it in the 20s, you get it. He said that nationalism is an infantile disease. It's the measles of mankind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

He'll read Moses Hess and say, that's perfectly acceptable. You know, there's always. The human mind, I'm telling you, what these people were able to rationalize and justify. It's almost impressive how they can do this. At least John Baez and a few others said, okay, I was wrong. Of course, only after it was over, only after the damage was done. But the enchantment was Soviet power. Well, when you have a Jewish media, a national socialist world,

in matter how prosperous it became, is going to be, you know, reporting it's going to be the most evil thing, and military action must be taken against it. That wasn't the case, of course, with the left anywhere. And, you know, claiming this was an isolated incident. I love this idea. they start creating, inventing history. This is an ancient Russian method.

You know, whatever it took to justify it, the universities went over to the USSR. This is one of the reasons I say that Cold War was largely mythical. The regime took over all these other institutions. You had the World Council of Churches. Same thing. thanks to the Archbishop of Canterbury

this was but only in early 70s when Israel started winning these wars and Soviet Jews wanted to emigrate only then with their protests everywhere it's a totalitarian system

they weren't saying this in the 30s or 50s but that was the one time that there was some minor um sanctions and then again with the invasion of Afghanistan um but prior to that all the mass murders not a problem we only have a few paragraphs left in this long and detailed chapter no the west never envied us and from those isolated incidents millions of innocence died, we'll never discover why this brutality was forgotten by Western opinion. It's not very readily remembered today. Today, a myth is being, yeah, today a myth is being built. Yeah, well, yeah, he's writing this and he's saying he has no way. Okay. Today, a myth is being built

about the past to the effect that under Soviet power, Jews were always second-class citizens, or one sometimes hears that, quote, there was no persecution in the 20s that was to come later. It's very rare to hear an admission that not only did they take part, but there was a certain enthusiasm among Jews as they carried out the business of the barbaric young government. Quote, the mixture of ignorance and arrogance which Hannah calls a typical characteristic of the Jewish parvenu filled the government, social and cultural ill. elite. The brazenness and ardor with which all Bolshevik policies were carried out, whether confiscation of church property or prosecution or persecution of bourgeois intellectuals gave

Bolshevik power in the 20s a certain Jewish stamp. End quote. They had a completely unearned self-confident. Ideologically and theoretically, you know, Marxism, the philosophy of the matter in terms of you know hundreds of journals dedicated to Marxism that you know especially in English and elsewhere in all of this you're not going to find any any any criticism any any problem but you know they captured philosophy they captured history Karl Marx once you kind of get it with him there's certain aspects of it were they they're very difficult. But once you get it, it's very easy to interpret it about anything. You have to lie to yourself. But it is easy. I'm not saying Marx is easy. He's not.

But once you grasp it, it becomes a very easy ideology to impose on anything. you know, nationalism does have its list of theoreticians that are not well-known and they never created a really a systematic ideology until recently. I think I've done that. I've tried to do that anyway. Hegel, I guess, was the closest thing. But, you know, this is how they capture these institutions. intellectuals are on the left, rednecks are on the right.

And it just didn't matter. You know, cognitive dissonance was a small price to pay. And remember, a sociopath can never experience cognitive dissonant. In the 90s, another Jewish public intellectual writing of the 20s said, quote, in university halls jews often set the tone without noticing that their banquet was happening against the backdrop of the demise of the main nationality in their country i'm sorry i just have to stop and contemplate our own our own situation during the 20s jews were proud of fellow jews who had brilliant careers in the revolution but did not think much about how the

career was connected to the real suffering of the Russian people. Most striking today is unanimity with which my fellow Jews deny any guilt in the history of 20th century Russia. That was by, you're quoting somebody. G. Shormack in a book published in Russian called Shulgin and his apologists. Yeah. How healing it would be for both nations if such lonely voices were not drowned out, because it's true. In the 20s, Jews in many ways, serve the Bolshevik Molok, not thinking of the broken land and not foreseeing the eventual consequences for themselves. Many leading Soviet Jews lost all sense of moderation during that time, all sense of when it was time to stop. Okay, I don't like separating Jews from Bolsheviks,

as if there was a Bolshevik party without them. It's just not true. The Bolsheviks came from the Bund. It was, you know, again, given their fairly small numbers, they couldn't be dominant in every place in every party committee but that's irrelevant to some extent to some extent they were Bolivism and yeah

we could repeat this Jews often set the tone without noticing that their banquet was happening against the backdrop of the demise of the main nationality in the country I'm pretty sure that they knew they did notice and that was the problem

and I mentioned this before but the Leningrad purge very little known purge right after World War II was a massive purge of anyone in the party that was pro-Russian that had a, you know

not even Russian nationalists but protested against the exploitation of Russia all the other republics essentially lived off Russia And when bringing that up, there was a whole list of them were removed. And I haven't published on that, but I have a lecture on that at Radio Albion.

But there's no way a Jew is going to, you know, your typical Jew is not going to admit to this stuff. They certainly won't institutionally admit to this stuff. they have no conception that they're ever at fault. And, of course, they're going to deny any guilt. You know, and in EU, you may get sent off to prison, even bringing up the issue. All right. We're done with the 20s, and we're going to be entering the 30s in the next episode. So, as I do at the end of every episode, please go over to the show notes and to the

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