The Pete Quiñones Show - Reading Solzhenitsyn's '200 Years Together' w/ Dr Matthew Raphael Johnson - Part 96

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:48 Everything's there. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenison. This is episode number 96. Dr. Johnson, how are you doing today? You know, cats were permitted, full rain, any orthodox monastery. I think in the first millennium of Catholic monasteries, too, they could go anywhere, they could do whatever they wanted, they weren't held back, you know, whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Dogs were kind of associated with wolves, and they had very specific jobs. but cats were seen as the spiritual element in the cats and certain birds the spiritual element in the in the ancient world I think and the cats had an ability to see things that even some humans couldn't and that's why they were given free
Starting point is 00:02:48 it wasn't just to kill mice it was it was still the case today there's no monastery without a cat that does whatever the heck he wants and um cats are the spiritual uh spiritual pet how you doing i'm doing good man you know back from vacate back from vacation and uh yeah my cat was uh was hospitalized while i was gone and uh i trusted the vet to get him back in back in health and he is in perfect health and he's screaming at the door right now so at the age of 15 that's beautiful yeah and um i have someone here who went and visited him every day so he knew he wasn't abandoned and um you know someone who's
Starting point is 00:03:37 known known him as long as i have since the time i brought him home so um you know we were able to go and visit family and visit friends while you know a vet that i trust very much took care of him and got him back to the point where when I picked him up today, it was like, I mean, he was better, well, I say better than he's been in years as far as health-wise. He just looks great. So it's like he had a spa. It's like he had a spa vacation. Yeah, well, you know, that's what they think they deserve. Um, you got him as a kitten? I got him when he was like one. Oh, okay. So almost a kitten. Yeah. All right. let's get going here on page 495 we're going to be finishing this pretty soon dr johnson yep yep we have to come up with
Starting point is 00:04:29 another book and i have a whole bunch of ideas i'll let you know about them yep we will talk about that here we go an important event in jewish life in the ussr was the closing of the yevsec at the central committee of the all-russian communist party of bolsheviks in 1930 though in accord with the soviet blueprint this blocked any separate development of a Jewish society having national, cultural, and individual Jewish autonomy. From now on, Jewish cultural development lay within the Soviet mainstream. In 1937 to 38, the leading Yevsecs, Demenstein Litvakov, Esther, and their associates Kui, Siddarski, and Shemirsky, who in the words of Y.U. Margulina, in the words of Y. the service of the authorities carried out the greatest pogrom against Jewish culture,
Starting point is 00:05:25 were arrested and soon executed. Many Yev-Sex occupying governing positions in the central and local departments of the society for settling, toiling Jews on the land, OZet, and in the Jewish community, Jewish cultural and educational structures also fell under the juggernaut. In 1936 to 39, the majority of them were persecuted. The poisonous atmosphere of the 1930s now reached these levels too. During open meetings, they began to accuse and expose prominent Jewish communists, who at some time before were members either of the Bund or of the Zionist Socialist Party
Starting point is 00:06:05 or even Polo-de-Zion, all of which were crippled under the Soviet regime. Was there anyone who passed the Bolsheviks did not try to criminalize? Who have you been before? In 1938, their M.S. was clear. closed also. Yeah, this is, you know, it's Jews attacking other Jews, for one thing. But, you know, settling Jews on the land still makes me chuckle. I'm sure they had three or four commissions and committee meetings beforehand to see if that
Starting point is 00:06:35 could be done. Of course, it wasn't done. They certainly lied about it. You know, Jews own their own land. You can't own your own land in the Soviet Union if you believe in collectivization. But they didn't like the idea. You can see it one of two ways. Either, you know, the Bolshek party was not Jewish.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And they're trying to get rid of any Jewish element. Or it is, you know, it is so Jewish that it's just part of the mainstream now. And so you don't need a yes sec or anything else. And the latter is what Solzhenits is arguing, what I argue, what you argue. but you see it's very easy to come up with a thesis that Stalin just was anti-Jewish anti-Semitic and we know that's not the case absolutely not the case what about education right up to 1933 the number of Jewish schools and Jewish students in them increased despite the early 1920's critique of nationalist overzealousness in the actions of the Yevsex on the forced transition
Starting point is 00:07:52 of Jewish education into Yiddish. From 1936 to 1939, a period of accelerated decline and even more accelerated impoverishment of the schools in Yiddish was noted. After 1936 to 37, the number of Jewish schools began to decline quickly, even in Ukraine and Belarusia. The desire of parents to send their children to such schools had diminished. Education in Yiddish was seen as less and less prestigious. There was an effort to give children an education in the Russian language. Also, from the second half of the 1930s, a number of institutions of higher learning, lecturing in Yiddish began to decline rapidly. Quote, almost all Jewish institutions of higher education and technical schools were closed by 1937 to 1938. Yeah, I mean, by this point,
Starting point is 00:08:44 remember, Hebrew was pretty much, I don't want to say completely dead, but more abundant. It was close to being dead. So it's one thing, if you could speak it in Yiddish, but Hebrew was out of the question. Yiddish was something more local. Yiddish is something connected to the Khazar Empire. So that's what really was going on here. And most people, not Sultan Yitzin, but most people, tend to underestimate the language issue at the time.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's like the language issue in Ukraine or in Ireland, or in a lot of places. You know, the differences between Yiddish and Hebrew were great, two very different languages. And Yiddish was strange because it really wasn't standardized. You had Yiddish all over the place, you know, in Germany and Ukraine was more connected to the Khazars than it was in northern Europe. So you had all kinds, it wasn't just dialects, it was different, almost different languages. But Hebrew was out of the question because the Soviets associated it with some kind of religion, even though they should have known better at the time.
Starting point is 00:10:04 At the start of the 1930s, Jewish Scientific Institutes had the academies of science of Ukraine and Belarusia were closed. In Kiev, the Institute of Jews, the Institute of Jews, Jewish proletarian culture fell into desolation. And soon after the arrest followed, Mikhail Conan of the Leningrad Institute of Philosophy, Literature, and History was executed. Ayacol Rabrebrev, formerly of the Petrograd Institute of the Higher Jewish Studies, who in the 1930s headed the Jewish section of the public library, was sentenced to eight years and died in the transit camp. Persecution spread to writers in Yiddish. Moishe Kolbach was persecuted in 1937, Kelluk Axelrod in 1940,
Starting point is 00:10:47 Abram Abchuk, a teacher of Yiddish and a critic in 1937. Writer Groltzbozov was persecuted in 1938. Writer I. Karak and critic K.H. Dunitz were persecuted also. Still, literature in Yiddish was actively published until the end of the 1930s. Jewish publishers were working in Moscow, Kiev, and Minsk. yet what kind of literature was it? In 1930s, the overwhelming majority of works were written stereotypically in accordance with the unshakable principles of socialist realism. Literature in Yiddish from the 1930s up to June 1941 was marked by the cult of Stalin.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Unbridled flattery for Stalin flowed from the bosom of Jewish poetry. Isek Fedder managed to light up even official propaganda with lyrical notes. These monstrous sayings are ascribed to his pen. You betrayed your father. This is great. And I say Stalin, but envision the son. Most of these writers who zealously tried to please Stalin were arrested 10 years later. But some of them, as mentioned above, had already drawn this lot.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's unfortunate that in 1944, Stalin asked how many of the Orthodox bishops are still alive. and it was a certain number and, you know, give me the three that are the most malleable and they did. And then the hench created the Moscow Patriarchate
Starting point is 00:12:24 of the Russian Orthodox Church there, which is what still exists. Now, I don't want to make an immediate, you know, those guys are long dead. But it's painful to listen to or to read their, they have the Journal of Moscow, Patrick York, in 1953 at Sondon's death, the worshipful, I mean, worshipful writing, I mean, it went beyond just praise.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It was almost like he was Christ himself, coming down to save orthodoxy, save religion from the Nazis. And it seems like, you know, that didn't help them. to a great extent. But there weren't, there wasn't anyone left to persecute. Or either, unless they were underground, all over the world in, I said this before, all over the world in the diaspora of exile or dead. So that's some of the most painful things. I see they're doing that here with the Jews had to do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:13:35 the Jews would absolutely do the same thing after 1945 for very obvious reasons and Israel was founded by the Stalinist in 1948 on the on the grounds that he saved the world from from Hitler so we talked about that already too but you know it just got to the point where Socialist realism was so, as he says, stereotypical, that it was boring. But this is what you had to do if you want to get a job, if you wanted to function. There were tons and tons of Jews around Stalin, always, everywhere. At the local level, everywhere. Everyone was being persecuted, not just them.
Starting point is 00:14:26 But you could see how, and everything you've read so far, you could see why someone would say, oh, he must have not liked the Jews very much. No, there were Jews everywhere. Abolishing the institutions didn't mean he wanted to abolish, I mean, he knew what the Jews were, their connection to orthodoxy early on, but he didn't want a separate movement. So, you know, that's really the big issue. The worshipfulness, though, that they use, they abuse the language. and they abused whatever freedom they had to worship Stalin right up until the end of the of the so-called Cold War is manifest and there's not much in the journal of the Moscow Patriarchate
Starting point is 00:15:22 there is absolutely there's almost almost nothing of theological value to be found there Similarly, the ideological press of official communist doctrines signified for many Jewish artis and sculptors a complete breakup, quite often tragic with the national Jewish traditions. Still, what culture in the USSR was not touched by this. So it comes as little surprise that the overwhelming majority of Jewish theaters devoted much attention to propaganda performances. This included all 19 aforementioned professional Yiddish theaters and numerous independent collections. studios, and circles. Concerning Hebrew culture which preserve the national traditions, it was by now conclusively banished and went underground.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It has already been mentioned that the Zionist underground was crushed by the beginning in the 1930s. Many Zionists were already rounded up, but still many others were accused of the Zionist conspiracy. Take Pincus Dashevsky from Chapter 8. In 1933, he was arrested as a Zionist. Krasny was not a Zionist, but was listed as such in his death sentence. He was former minister of Petlura's directorate, emigrated, but later returned into the USSR. He was executed in 1939. Wolf Averbuk, a poet a Zionist from his youth, left for Israel in 22, where he collaborated with the communist press. In 1930, he was sent back to the USSR where he was arrested.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I don't know how you could be banished to Israel in 1922 as a legal state it didn't exist at the time but what you had in the Middle East was the Hasidic rabbis in Jerusalem who absolutely despised Zionism until of course the Messiah comes absolutely despised Zionism and Israel was imposed on top of them
Starting point is 00:17:33 Salad didn't like factions to refuse to deal with the fact that he went he was equal opportunity it wasn't because there were Jews he hated factions and he wanted one unified Soviet party communist party
Starting point is 00:17:53 so I guess he means he left for the Middle East in 1922 I think is what he's talking about Most of the semi-legal catered schools and yeshivas were shut down and around that time. Arrests rolled on from the late 1920s in the Hasidic underground. Yaakov Sakharaya Maskalik was arrested in 1937. Slavin was arrested in 1939. By the end of 1933, 237 synagogues were closed, that is, 57% of all existing in the first years of Soviet authority.
Starting point is 00:18:27 In the mid-1930s, the closure of synagogues accelerated. From 1929, the authorities began to impose excessive tax on matzah baking. In 1937, the commission on the questions of religions at the Central Executive Committee of the USSR prohibited baking matzah in Jewish religious communities. In 1937 to 38, the majority of clergy of the Jewish religious cult were persecuted. There were no rabbis and the majority of still functioning synagogues. In 1938, a hostile rabbinical nest was discovered in the Moscow Central Synagogue. The rabbis and a number of parishioners were arrested, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:19:07 The rabbi of Moscow's Schmul Lieb medallia was arrested and executed in 1938. His son, Moisha Medalia was arrested at the same time. In 1937, the rabbi of Saratov, Ayasov Bugatan, was arrested. keep in the early 19th that these weren't shut down because there were Jewish institutions um you know uh or even religious institutions many of them under cruschev were revived you know the the in fact the persecution of orthodoxy under our cruistive increased under under cruistive for whatever was left but most of these synagogues were
Starting point is 00:19:56 but you know by the time of the war someone's was wiped out anyway it's you know but it was because yet they were using you already mentioned in a previous paragraph someone was a part of the Petluria's directorate they're speaking
Starting point is 00:20:18 you know the maxobah matzo baking is is often done in the religious context of Hebrew it was seen as just another faction so Jews were I don't think you know Jews were not persecuted
Starting point is 00:20:34 not as such anyway they were and these were revived as much as possible after the war what could be revived The orthodoxy, on the other hand, was a different story. That had already been so destroyed that there was nothing left, really, by the Kushaf era. In the early 1930s, when the Jewish religion was restricted in the USSR,
Starting point is 00:21:02 the closing of thousands of Orthodox Christian temples and the destruction of many of them rolled along throughout the entire country. They especially hurried to liberate Soviet Moscow from the church, Boris Iofin was in charge of that reconstruction. In that bitter and hungry year of devastating breakdown of the country, they promoted projects for a grand palace of Soviets in place of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Izvestia reports, quote,
Starting point is 00:21:31 so far 11 projects are presented at the exhibition, particularly interesting among them are the works of architects Friedman, B. Iofen, Bronstein, and Ladovsky. Later, the arrests reached, the architects as well. Yeah. I was going to say here, the concept of Zionism was essentially to Stalin's years Jewish nationalism.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I don't think he realized at the time just how powerful of the movement that's going to eventually be. It was small. Keep in mind. It was very small. It wasn't until, of course, World War II in Hitler that it really developed. And because Stalin was, you know, the founder of the Israeli state in the U.N. and elsewhere, even when the U.S. was iffy about it. I have a paper out on that, which I should send you if I haven't already. So it's not quite the total destruction burning down of Orthodox temple. It was very different. It was done for very different reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But of course, the war, the invasion, destroyed everything in this path. The move towards settling the toiling Jews on the land gradually became irrelevant for Soviet Jews. The percentage of Jewish settlers abandoning lands given to them remained high. In 1930 to 32, the activity of foreign Jewish philanthropic organizations such as agro joint OKG and ECO in the USSR had noticeably decreased.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And although in 1933 to 38, it had still continued within the frameworks of new restrictive agreements, in 1938, the activity ceased completely. In the first half of 1938, first the OSET and then the committee for settling the toiling Jews on the land, the Comzat, were dissolved. The overwhelming majority of remaining associates of these organizations, who were still at liberty, were persecuted. By 1939, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine decided to liquidate the officially created National Jewish Districts and Burroughs. Artificially created national Jewish districts and boroughs. But again, it wasn't because
Starting point is 00:24:00 they were Jews. Now, the Bedibisdon idea, which is the next paragraph, things change. Nonetheless, the idea of a Jewish colony of Barobisdon was not a abandoned in the 1930s and was even actively advanced by government. In order to put spirit into the masses, the authorities staged the second All-Union Congress of the OZet in Moscow in December 1930. By the end of 1931, the general population of that oblast was 45,000 of only 5,000 Jews among them. Although whole villages with homes were built for their settlement and access roads were laid. Sometimes by inmates from the camps nearby, for example, the train station of Barobisdon was constructed in this manner. Yet non-Jewish colonization of the region went faster than Jewish
Starting point is 00:24:50 colonization. We already, I think we discussed this, what, a month ago? About they thought that, you know, the goal was going to be found there. It turned out to be a bad tip. So that's why it died and I was the one who discovered that you know why all the way out there you know southern Siberia and the Chinese border why that far away and it was because there was a gold some gold that was to be found there that was found there there there is a small Chinese own mining company there working it but that's all there is keep in mind that in bed of bish done there were synagogues built but with state money so they they he knocks it down in one place he rebuilds it in some some other place the concept is that you know
Starting point is 00:25:48 jews certainly thought and again Jews were all over you know solemn administration at the time that um you know it's very it's not a simple issue it's a very complicated issue that then Jews would be able to directly control the price of gold from this area. That's how big the American, and even the pre-revolutionary mining surveys had stated it, they could control the price of gold from one spot. It was a flop. It wasn't much gold found there. And that's the reason it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:26:24 In order to set matters right, in autumn of 1931, the presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the RSFF. Decreed that another 25,000 Jews should be settled in Barabidsdon during the next two years, after which it would be possible to declare it the Jewish Autonomous Republic. However, in the following years, a number of Jews who left exceeded the number of Jews arriving, and by the end of 1933, after six years of colonization, the number of settled Jews amounts at only to 8,000. Of them, only 1,500 lived in rural areas, i.e. worked in Kolkosis, that is, the Jews comprised less than one-fifth of all Kolkos workers there. There is also information that the land in the Jewish Kolkosis was fairly often tilled by hired Cossacks and Koreans. Yet again, yet again, my lord. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 The Oblast could not even provide enough agricultural product for its own needs. uh yeah once the gold didn't work out um it it no one wanted to go there but but even if it did um it was such a difficult place to go i mean you're what three thousand miles at least 3500 miles away from from moscow uh it was one hell of a trip and it was a totally different world i i you know you so you can't call solan anti-jewish if he wants to create a jewish autonomous Republic. That doesn't make any sense. And he recognized, Stalin recognized it failed. And in 1948, of course, Stalin and the Communist Party was absolutely essential in establishing the state of Israel. Nevertheless, in May 1934, when the non-Jewish population had already reached
Starting point is 00:28:23 50,000, Barobizdan was loudly declared a Jewish autonomous oblast. It still did not qualify for the status of republic. Thus, there was no national enthusiasm among the Jewish masses which would ease the overcoming of the enormous difficulties inherent in such colonization. There was no industry in Barobizdan, and the economic and social structure of the settlers resembled that of contemporary Jewish towns and Stettles in Ukraine and Belarusia. This was particularly true for the city of Barrow-Bistan, especially considering the increased role of the Jews in the local administrative apparatus. I think you had a handful of Chinese, you had some Koreans, you had a handful of Russians.
Starting point is 00:29:08 They tried to create, the land, you know, it's very mountainous. So, you know, farming isn't necessarily an important part of the economy. To this day, it's really never been settled. it's a beautiful place though but you know try to get Wi-Fi that's a different story but every once in a while I come across an article about the Jews
Starting point is 00:29:35 who have stayed all this time and I want to complete want to remake it you know this is our state and it's a mainstream publication like Time Newsweek something like that and there's this you know guy there's you know this rabbi
Starting point is 00:29:52 who wants thought it was a great idea and wants to get to continue and maybe that sounds better and better as things get worse for Israel but again without the gold nothing made any sense about it and of course yet again
Starting point is 00:30:15 for the 40th time those who were in the collective farm system who were Jewish would not work they hired these things out to surf labor amongst the Korean or Russian population or the Cossack population
Starting point is 00:30:31 but I don't know if you even call them Cossacks out there I question that they were recognized by the state as Cossacks so which it doesn't make any sense but but it is a rough place to live Jews are not interested in that
Starting point is 00:30:50 and it's so remote and so far away and it's just it just it wasn't what they were told it was going to be culture and Yiddish had certainly developed in the Autonomous Oblast there were Jewish newspapers radio schools a theater named after Kaganovic its director was the future author E. Kazakovich
Starting point is 00:31:14 a library named after Sholam Alakam a museum of Jewish culture and public reading facilities. Peretz-Marcich had published the Exaltzant article, A People Reborn in the Central Press. In connection with Barobisdon, let's note the fate of the demographer Ilya Weissblitz. Vice Blit.
Starting point is 00:31:38 His position was that the policy of recruitment of poor urban Jews in order to settle them in rural areas should end. There are no de-class-A individuals among the Jews who could be suitable for Bureau Bizton. He was arrested in 1933 and likely died in prison. So, again, I'll repeat myself. You can't claim that Salin, again, he was quoting somebody, by the way, as old Deneaton was, when he talked about the closures of the of the synagogues. That wasn't him writing. And he has a footnote. I don't know who it is,
Starting point is 00:32:15 but um so how much that that was true i don't know but you can't claim that he's anti-jewish and then create and finance a whole uh yiddish world with synagogues all over the place um and call it the jewish autonomous republic and then you then be called anti-jewish but you have to admit it's a rough spot to make anything work yet the central authorities believe that the colonization should be stimulated even further. And from 1934, they begun a near-compulsory recruitment among Jewish artisans and workers in the Western regions, that is, among the urban population without a slightest knowledge of agriculture.
Starting point is 00:33:03 The slogan rang out, the entire USSR builds the Jewish autonomous oblast, meaning that recruitment of non-Jewish cadres is needed for quicker development. The ardent Yevsek-Demonstin wrote that we do not aim to create a Jewish majority in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast as soon as possible. This would contradict the principles of internationalism. That's very interesting. That's an interesting comment there. It is. They're so used to being a minority, their entire social world and way of thinking was structured around it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I know what Willis Carter used to say that if we didn't exist or if they didn't have the goyam to hate they start killing each other but yeah I don't know if that's true or not that they never aimed for that but there even you know there's I think it's
Starting point is 00:34:03 I thought my head I don't know I think it's like 500 500 to a thousand who's still there and even in Jewish circles it's not talked about very much. Again, because Talon was seen as an anti-Jewish figure. But despite all these measures, during the next three years, only another 11,000 to eight or nine thousand Jews were added to those already living there. Still, most of the newcomers preferred to stay in the Oblast capital closer to its railroad stations
Starting point is 00:34:35 and looked at railroad station and looked for opportunities to escape. Yet as we know, the Bolsheviks may not be defeated or dispirited. So, because of dissatisfaction with a com set in 1936, the Central Executive Committee of the USSR decided to partially delegate the overseeing of Jewish resettlement in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast to the Resettlement Department of the NKVD. In August of 1936, the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR proclaimed that, quote, for the first time in the history of the Jewish people, their ardent desire to have their own homeland has been realized and their own national statehood has been established, end
Starting point is 00:35:18 quote. And now they began planning resettlement of 150,000 more Jews to bureau bids on. Yeah, it's all of this, you know, this is not, this is not easy. This is very complex, although it seems that way. When you deliver it over to the NKVD, think a little harsher. but Jews were all over the NKVD but again, everything in Burabir's done had to be in Yiddish religious stuff was fine
Starting point is 00:35:52 as long as it was done in Yiddish and but again I think I mentioned this before a month ago, a couple months ago but if you look up the flag about Ibizdan, the Autonomous Oblasts flag. If you look it up online, it should be very familiar to you.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It's just a, it's a rainbow. Looking back at it, the Soviet efforts to convert the Jews to agriculture suffered the same defeat as the Tsarist efforts a century before. My Lord, what is it with these people? I'm shocked. In the meantime, I mean, they never, they can't learn from history. it's impossible for them to learn from history yeah but even good men and the czarist terror didn't you know couldn't couldn't do it why they just can't seem to learn that the
Starting point is 00:36:47 jews have no interest in this they're not going to do it and they certainly aren't going to do it all the way out there in the meantime the year in 1938 approached comzette was closed ozat was disbanded and the main yevsec in moscow and the administration administrators of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast were arrested. Those Bureau bids-on Jews who could left for the cities of the Far East or for Moscow. According to the 1939 census, a general population of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast consisted of 108,000 people. However, quote, the number of Jews there remained secret. The Jewish population of Bureau Bistan was still low, end quote.
Starting point is 00:37:30 presumably 18 Jewish Kolkkoza, how do you pronounce that? You know how to pronounce it. Kolkoses, yeah. Kolkoses still existed of 40 to 50 families each, but in those Kolkoses, they conversed and corresponded with the authorities in Russian. Yeah, and they really had no choice in that matter. But given that it was on the border with China, it didn't take advantage. of the Chinese Cossack and a handful of Koreans that did the surf labor for them.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They weren't out there with a hoe till in the land, you know, although I'm sure you could find the occasional, you know, exception that wasn't the case. They never stopped being Jews. And if there's, you know, such a random, again, because I discovered the real reason for the Barobistan experiment. and I'm the first I guess I'm the first one who had at least in English there's all these theories out there about why why is it so far away when in fact and then I come across this in a mining journal
Starting point is 00:38:47 that this part of Siberia is loaded with with with with gold both before and after the revolution in English and in Russia And, you know, and, but the number of Jews remaining secret because it was a failure. And they didn't want to admit it. Yet, what could Barobidson have become for Jews? Just 45 years later, the Israeli general Benny Pellid emphatically explained why neither Birrobidzon nor Uganda could give the Jewish people a sense of connection with the land. Quote, I simply feel that I am not ready to die for a piece of land. then Russia, Uganda, or New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:39:33 The sense of connection after thousands of years of estrangement was restored by Israel. Benny's birth name is Benjamin Weidenfeld. Because, of course, they all change your name so that they can sound more Middle Eastern. because most of them are from Europe. Yeah. Yeah, and the handful of Jews that remained, just like they are everywhere else, made themselves very unpopular
Starting point is 00:40:12 because they did treat locals or people who they brought in as serfs, nothing more than serfs. And they didn't stop being Jews just because they were shipped a billion miles away to the Chinese border. All right. The migration of Jews to the major cities did not slow down in the 1930s.
Starting point is 00:40:38 The Jewish Encyclopedia reports that, according to the census in 1926, there were 131,000 Jews in Moscow. In 1931, there were 226,500. And in 1939, there were 250,000 Jews. Quote, as a result of the massive resettlement of Ukrainian Jews, their share among Moscow Jewry increased to 80%. End quote. In the book on the Russian Jewry, 1968, we find that in the 1930s, up to a half million Jews were counted among government workers, sometimes occupying prominent posts primarily
Starting point is 00:41:15 in the economy. That's 500,000 government workers. The author also reports. that in the 1930s, up to a half million Jews became involved in industry, mainly in manual labor. Yeah, yeah, sure. On the other hand, Laren provides another figure that among the industrial workers, there were only 2.7% Jews or 200,000, or 2.5 times less than the first estimate. Yeah, okay, you know, because it just wasn't true. But every once in a while, you know, they do, they, they, it's like the old, you know, the old chettle system.
Starting point is 00:41:57 where if you have troublemakers, if you have people who are just not going to make it, if they just don't, you know, think properly, you ship them off to do something to the army. Remember that whole discussion with under Nicholas I first? And so I think there were a handful doing this kind of manual labor, but they weren't exactly representative of your typical Jew,
Starting point is 00:42:23 or of Judaism in general, I should say. The flow of Jews into the ranks of office workers grew constantly. The reason for this was the mass migration to cities and also the sharp increase of the educational level, especially of Jewish youth. The Jews predominantly lived in the major cities, did not experience artificial social restrictions so familiar to their Russian peers. And it needs to be said, they studied devotedly, thus preparing masses of technical cadres for the Soviet future. I'm okay I got to read that a few times to get that to get that straight you know it's very easy you know Johnson's law says to lie about how many Jews were involved in manual labor well it's very very obscure topic how many people
Starting point is 00:43:14 could even know to or even know how to look it up they can say whatever they want and they're going to be they're going to be believed but I they still remained. And remember, the census issue was always very sensitive one for the Jews, whether it be Soviet or Tsarist. You know, I think there are other, they didn't like responding to the census. They didn't like, you know, anything like that. But I guess they saw the USSR as something, not a Jewish state necessarily, especially those who used Hebrew. But at least, you know, it was wonderful because it got rid of the czar estate, which was the worst thing imaginable. So Jews all over the world supported it.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And if I had to give up Hebrew, that was fine. We have a natural break after the second upcoming paragraph. Looks like it to me. Okay. Let's glance into statistical data. Quote, in 1929, the Jews comprised 13.5. percent of all students in the higher educational institutions in the USSR. In 1933, 12.2%. In 1936, 13.3 percent of all students and 18 percent of graduate students, with their share of the total population
Starting point is 00:44:40 being only 1.8 percent. From 1928 to 1935, the number of Jewish students per 1,000 of the Jewish population rose from 8.4 to 20.4 per thousand Belize. of Ruscians that were, there were 2.4 students, and per thousand Ukrainians, 2.0. And by 1935, the percentage of Jewish students exceeded the percentage of Jews in the general population of the country by almost seven times, thus standing out from all other peoples of the Soviet Union. G. V. Kosterenko, who researched Stalin's policies on Jews, comments on the results in the 1939 census, quote, after all, Stalin could not disregard the fact that at the start of 1939,
Starting point is 00:45:31 out of every thousand Jews 268 had a high school education, and 57 out of 1,000 had higher education. Among Russians, the figures were respectively 81 and 6 per 1,000. It is no secret that highly successful completion of higher education or doctoral studies allowed individuals to occupy socially prestigious, positions in the robustly developing Soviet economy of the 1930s. However, in the book on Russian Jewry, we find that without exaggeration, after Eshoff's purges, not a single prominent Jewish figure remained at liberty in Soviet Jewish society, journalism,
Starting point is 00:46:15 culture, or even in the science. Well, it was absolutely not like that, and it is indeed a gross exaggeration. Still, the same author, Gregori Aronson, in the same book, only two pages later, says summarily about the 1930s that the Jews were not deprived of general civil rights. They continued to occupy posts in the state and party apparatus, and there were quite a few Jews in the diplomatic corps in the general staff of the army and among the professors and the institutions of higher learning. Thus, we enter into the year 1939. Then how could Stalin have possibly been anti-Judaic?
Starting point is 00:46:52 You know, Aronson is obviously a Jewish last name. You know, clearly he wasn't. They didn't have privileges that they never had before. They had privileges in the Tsarist era as well, as we discussed in great detail that the average Russian didn't have. And, you know, speaking of the previous paragraph, one of the problems, once Israel was founded, I don't think the Soviets fully understood,
Starting point is 00:47:22 what it would mean and how big it would become because you can't train a Jew once Israel went to the U.S. after World War II for obvious reasons then you want these huge numbers of Jews in the 70s going over there you can't train Jews in these
Starting point is 00:47:44 in these fields and highly in fact sensitive fields military, military things, scientific things that are specific to the Soviet Union, only to have them go to Israel, which was a U.S. ally. And that's where the Jackson-Vannock Amendment came from and all this stuff. And that again was, it proves that they were anti-Judaic, anti-Semitic. But by the time of like the Sixth Day War, at that point, point, early 70s, the Russian, sorry, the Soviet Communist Party was very different from what had taken over in 1917. In fact, they had nothing in common whatsoever. Jews had, were
Starting point is 00:48:35 abandoning, they were fleeing the sinking ship, going elsewhere. And it was really the U.S. and the U.S. allies where they, you know, where they were going to, places like a especially either either New York or or Israel itself and eventually every once in while you know you had so you have like even in central Europe do a commons parties there you had some thinking very much like our thinking like you know how dare they we've done all these wonderful things for them and they go and abandon us and go to an American ally so although the laws were still on the books They couldn't have been in force very much, you know, because anti-Zionism became a serious, almost an official doctrine in the 1970s in the USSR.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Well, I think in that next to the last paragraph when it says here, it is no secret that highly, quote unquote, quoting highly successful completion of higher education and doctoral studies allowed individuals to occupy a socially prestigious position. and the robustly developing Soviet economy of the 1930s. Well, robustly, that's, that word's doing a hell of a lot of work there. Secondly, I mean, what I hear all the time is, is that you're just jealous because we're successful. And I'm looking at this and I'm saying, no, this is nepotism. It's just like Indians. They get, someone gets into a big position. and even if they don't like most indians don't even like each other and they get each other jobs they they they they want their
Starting point is 00:50:26 indians from indian from the subcontinent okay yeah they don't even like each other and they get each other jobs just do the same thing it's nepotism everybody oh well how could the how could um it's it's all just success that 457 jews which i'm not making up a number this is a number that um kamala harris's been used were working in the Biden White House. Well, I mean, if they're 2% of the population, you're, it just explain that. You're not going to explain that in any other way than nepotism and power. It's not that they're the most qualified. Yeah, the other option, the only other option you have is to say that they're simply superior.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. But if you look at, but if you look at the Biden White House and the effects of the Biden White House and how the Biden, no, they're not, they're not superior because they're not successful. The only thing they're successful in is getting a job. They can't do the job. Or when they do the job, they purposely do the job to fuck white people and to fuck Americans. Because, I mean, well, what other, what, what's the other explanation? The only other explanation is they're they can get the job because somebody gets them the job and they're really shitty at doing the job either that or they're purposely fucking us over so that their own
Starting point is 00:51:57 people can benefit there's only two options as far as i'm concerned well the power the power of the ivy leagues and their um um prestige is fake and it comes from the fact that jews dominate here they dominate from this for the same reason as you said um They do very little work. They have grad students take care of most of their research. Lauren Summer being one of the worst, as we all know, who helped collapse two economies, who was part of the collapse of the U.S. economy in 2008, the Russian economy in the 90s. Again, still considered a highly prestigious economist.
Starting point is 00:52:43 No one ever gets fired from. this stuff um you know yeah of course you're going to assist one another i've seen it myself i've seen it myself uh it's it's um uh now i've come across jews who believe they're simply superior we have the higher IQ we deserve it but of course they can't really promote that consistently if i IQ or intellectual superiority was the only matter within then what happens to to to the blacks well they can't have that so so you know it gets a little bit twisted here but you're exactly right it is nepotism and this is why Stalin was not anti-judeic never not in his life he didn't like factions
Starting point is 00:53:30 and there were Jews who were doing most of the works against Jews the handful of the handful of the um um synagogues that were closed were closed by Jews because they were not speaking the proper language because they were promoting something they didn't like and there's no doubt and then you mentioned the Biden White House most of my statistics where I quote from are from Jewish sources
Starting point is 00:54:03 and they're bragging about it they think this shows how successful we are and how wonderful we are I don't have to go to our sources we could go right to Jewish sources and they'll admit so that they're a total domination of all this stuff. I have a list of the Jewish leaders in banking and finance, and it's 17 pages.
Starting point is 00:54:32 There's a little bit of overlap. It's 17 pages. And I got most of that from Wikipedia. so it's you know I guess but but not they're comfortable up until a point I don't think they're as comfortable anymore they can simply rule openly I don't know if that's the case right now in late 2025 thanks to Netanyahu because people are noticing these these things I get stuff sent to me all the time the noticing is continuing not just about Israel but about Jews and society all the time people are starting to notice and that's a wonderful thing you know i got into i was i was at an event and apparently somebody there who was jewish knew who i was and decided that they were going to openly uh start arguing with me and you know they asked me questions like um oh so do you think murray rothbard the libertarian was you know and i thought to myself i didn't say
Starting point is 00:55:43 this because I knew things would get out of hand. But I thought to myself, you mean Murray Rothbard, the anarchist? You mean Murray Rothbard, who was not a heritage, whose family did not found this country, and then came to this country, and then started advocating to destroy the government and tear the government completely down so the government could disappear. So the government would be out of the hands of the people of the progeny of those who built it, built it. that Murray Rothbard, what are you telling me here? What do you, what do you, you know, this is a person who was like, oh, somebody was dipping Alp, which is one of those nicotine packets that Tucker Carlson did. And before we even, before he even decided to, before he even
Starting point is 00:56:32 decided to like confront me, he goes, you know, you shouldn't have Alp. Alp is disgusting. Alp is dirty. It's been known to, it's been tested to be, you know, that there's something wrong with it. And then when he, like, I found that I didn't know this guy was Jewish, but then when he started, you know, started going at me, I found out. And I'm like, oh, there's nothing wrong with Alp. You just think Tucker Carlson's an anti-Semite. Tucker Carlson owns Alp. So that's why you're a tat. Motherfucker. You're a libertarian. Motherfucker. You know, it's like, you know, oh, no, it's the leftist Jews. It's the left. I'm one of the good ones. It's the leftist Jews. It's only the leftist Jews. You know, honest conversation. Just try to
Starting point is 00:57:22 have an honest conversation. I just want to have an avidus conversation once without, without them saying, oh, it's not, oh, oh, it's not like there's always Jews there, you know, it's like, well, tell me when it, tell me when it wasn't, especially in the last 100 years. Okay. I mean, come on. It's like, let's have an honest conversation. conversation here about without you, without you going, oh, it's the Zionist. Oh, it's the, there's something about Judaism that causes people to act like this. Let's have the conversation about what it is. I'm as familiar with your scripture, the Bible, as you are. The one that you don't even believe is real. You don't believe the God of it is real. You just use it as a
Starting point is 00:58:08 fucking real, you use it like a real estate portfolio. Right. this is what's promised to me. I mean, I mean, come on. Just have an honest conversation. I don't want to kill you. I don't even want to confront you. All you have to do is have an honest conversation.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's it. But they honestly got that. They actually believe that. They believe that we would do that. But if we had any kind of power, that's the first thing we would do. I have the feeling that's a little bit of projection there on their part. Well, I mean, I think the last two years,
Starting point is 00:58:41 proves that yeah for the for the world to see i think the only way you get the honest conversation is to be friends with somebody i've had friends from high school i've i've had friends from high school i've i've had friends you know i'm i'm a nice guy i'm not going to you know we can have intelligent conversations about it um you know uh but that's pretty much the only way you can't just go up to it can't be set up um you know like the old crossfire way or debate for an election. It's never going to work that way. You have to be known to each other.
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