The Pete Quiñones Show - Reality Isn't What You Think It Is /w Stormy Waters - Complete

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

4 Hours and 44 MinutesStormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm.Pete and Stormy explored a topic that has demanded debate throughout history: the material vs the metaphysical/relig...ious.Links and Research Mentioned Stormy's Substack Stormy's Twitter AccountPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 which doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do. everyone but um so this will be the first one of the first episodes i'll drop in the new year and i thought we'd um start the new year off talking about you know something that we've talked about seeing and you mentioned it all the time that it seems like in the last few years that there's been a spiritual shift and some kind of spiritual metaphysical awakening for a lot of people um what when did you start seeing that. I wouldn't call it a lot of people. I would say a portion of it.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I mean, our guys. A bit of our people. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yes, that's the weird thing is it's our guys. It's only our guys. Which, this is what blew me away. So I was having a conversation with Space Age Maximilist. Great account,
Starting point is 00:02:53 by the way. They did a three-part series unconsciousness science with him and he's a legit rocket scientist. So if you ever want to drill down on any of the technical bits of what Pete and I are going to talk about. Like it's a good place to start. But he and I was, he and I were talking and I was telling him about like, hey, if you look back at any of these, like, ancient mystic traditions, I'm talking like anything from like
Starting point is 00:03:15 the, the Taoist tradition, which is going on near as makes no difference, 3,000 years old, 4,000 years old. The Egyptian mystic tradition, which is 6,000 years old. or the Greek tradition, which is roughly about three or four thousand years old, it's really old. It doesn't matter where you look. Or the Vedic text, which are equally as old as Egypt, ones, going back six, we're talking about like five, six thousand years. And I remember telling him, like, all of these guys say the same thing. They all say that only two and ten have souls.
Starting point is 00:03:59 two and ten have souls and he was like that's really funny like do you know where the mpc meme came from and i'm like no no i don't i mean it's accurate yeah the fortune obviously. Yeah, but it came about from a study that got widely circulated on 4chan. It was a meta-analysis. And a meta-analysis, to anybody that's listening, is about the gold standard that you can get. Right. So basically, instead of like a study that says, all right, this, you know, this study says, this is true. But what if we tweak the, like, experiment parameters a little bit? Like, what if it's, you know, you know, maybe it's true in this sense, but is it, like, what if we move a little bit to the left? It's still true over here, or over here, or over here?
Starting point is 00:04:54 And basically, a meta-analysis is hundreds to sometimes thousands of individual studies that are all variations of each other, right, to larger or lesser degrees. So if you want to prove something is true, like, you have to test it out in like every different direction. And so a meta-analysis is a combination of all these things. You basically compile, and with this, they actually commissioned these hundreds of studies. I think it's like 800 studies. And then you compile the data from all of them. And then you see if something's true or not.
Starting point is 00:05:32 But what do you know? Only 20% of people on this fucking planet have the capacity. have the capacity for critical thinking. And it goes a lot more than critical thinking, but one of the, the ability to project oneself into the future, which sounds kind of hokey. Like, what do you mean, project myself into the future?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Well, like, if I'm, you know, confronted with a, you know, a choice, a dichotomy, I have to say, okay, well, what, let me imagine myself opening door number A or going down path number A. Well, if I go down path number A, this is going to happen. And then this other thing will probably happen. And, you know, okay, well, that's path A. Let me project myself into the future of if I walk down Path B and all of these things will happen to me.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And which one's better? Well, I like Path B better. to do that simple thing, you have to project yourself into the future. You have to view yourself outside of your body. As in like, you're here and now right this second. Right? Like your immediate reactive self.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You have to just hop into your head and project yourself into these hypothetical futures. And what comes from that is also, empathy. You have to be able to see yourself outside of yourself, like what it's like in Pete's shoes, dealing with me, a guy who can't stay on topic at all, ever, or explain everything, anything in a reasonable time frame. Like, I empathize with that because I put myself in Pete's shoes. So that all comes from the same thing. And only 20% of the population has that ability.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And at the same time, the Egyptians and the Taoists are telling us, hey, only two and ten people have souls. Okay? What does that like mean in reality? And this came from, like a space I was doing with, um, with an account name Schwab, good guy, nice kid. Um, it, it was on, I think it was MK Ultra we were talking about. And like I was talking about a bunch of tests that I had to do that I found out were part of the gate program. And I was,
Starting point is 00:08:36 I didn't even go into the gate program or anything like that. And him and the four other hosts, were like that exact same thing happened to me. Like those exact, like every single thing you're describing happened to me. And then I was like, okay, well, let me stop being super rude and turn my phone on silent. We asked the listeners, there's something like 700 people listening. Like, you know, raise your hand, if anything, if any of what we're describing happened to you. And then every single fucking, every single account, like that little hand emoji. It was the fucking most surreal experience I've had in a very long time.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Well, sorry, the most surreal group experience I've had in a very long time. And then I realized, like, okay, well, what are the, like, the gate kids, like, basically what the gate program was, was to, to identify kids. in America with special with like the special sauce right like which you know this is this started right after the remote viewing program was super successful damn I don't I don't know which tangent to go down
Starting point is 00:10:00 because both those are super interesting let's stick on gay I had I had a few people contact me and say I've heard Stormy talk about the gate program if he could get more into that and we talked about it And I said that I missed it by a couple years. Yes. I wouldn't have been there.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I wasn't done every school. Yeah. It wasn't done every school. I'm sure it was done in my school. But I was a couple of years early for it. That's what the, that's what the thing was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Okay. So basically how it works is this. I didn't go to public, I didn't go to public school. So yeah. I'm sure they were gone to my school. So this is the gate program is like, let's say you had an intelligence program that turned out to be super duper duper successful. And it didn't involve any hardware or crazy spy planes or anything like that or any spies or any like that.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It just involved people. like just certain types of people. And that would make you wonder, like, okay, well, how many of those types of people exist in the population? So the remote viewing program, which if you guys, there was a movie that came out two years after, the program got declassified. And what the movie does is basically make the whole thing look really, really silly, which it's not. So basically, the narrative is like, oh, during this, you know, Cold War, everything was really, really crazy and everyone was really, really paranoid.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And we found out that the Soviet Union was using psychic spies. And because we were so paranoid and things were so crazy, we decided, well, fuck, we got to get psychic spies too. Shit. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th. Because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favourite Liddle items, all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast.
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Starting point is 00:13:44 program in the history of the United States, both civilian and military. So that means military intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency. It was more productive and more successful than the Corona program,
Starting point is 00:14:04 which was the CIA and the Pentagon's satellite program before the Apollo program. So before that John F. Kennedy did the speech, we're going to go to the moon now. And everyone got into the space race. We started, you know, shooting up rockets. And first we got like a guy into orbit.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And then we got a guy even further. And then eventually guys would go up to the moon. Before we got guy number one into orbit, we already had the satellites, zipping around the globe, taking pictures of shit, and then air dropping, literally, canisters of film through re-entry, and then would be picked up by boats at nighttime.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So the Soviet Union didn't know satellites existed. At least satellites that were taking pictures. It took all of Soviet manpower and technical power to put a fucking radio transmitter into space that beeped occasionally. The idea of the lift it would take was just unbelievable. So, Soviet Union wasn't hiding shit from satellites, because the idea of satellites taking pictures of them was fucking impossible. They couldn't think about. So if you're not hiding stuff from satellites, you would think that satellites would be pretty good at giving you intelligence. And that this other thing that they were doing turned out to be better.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And what were they doing? Well, turns out a guy. sitting in his desk in Langley, can close his eyes, quiet his mind, and through some relatively simple breathing techniques, that guy can go anywhere in the world. He can read you what's on the desk of name a KGB officer.
Starting point is 00:16:15 He could tell you what his office smells like, how cold it is, what color the curtains are. are they ugly? What else is on his desk? And without ever leaving Langley, and if you found out that all of a sudden, you come to the realization that a guy can close his eyeballs and relax and see inside your most secret of secrets, that makes every fucking American a national security threat. Because the last thing you want, is like some celebrity, Dune Acid, and then seeing inside of, you know, groom lake,
Starting point is 00:17:03 or some kid eating Cheerios, you know, on a Saturday morning, seeing inside, name another place. God forbid, like the fucking celebrity, he's got a platform. What if he says some shit on TV? You know, you could say, like, oh, this fucking guy is clearly out of his mind, and you probably institutionalize him. but that means your secret secret shit was just set on TV. Well, that's a problem. Really is a problem.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So all of those kids that could have those type of abilities need to be identified. We need to keep a fucking eye on that. We don't need to track them with little G-Men, like, looking in their window. We just need to know who they are. quantify that risk. And it turns out they're good at a lot of other shit besides just seeing stuff. We can get into that later.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But, I mean, you say Stormy, don't know what you're fucking talking about. That sounds insane. Yeah. Well, that's exactly what the PBS 60 Minutes reporter thought when Ronnie Reagan spat it out of his mouth talking about how the Pentagon's psychic spy program was the most successful program they had.
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Starting point is 00:19:41 Or where the, you know, satellite was that was, I mean, by the 80s we did have satellites. Some of them were nuclear powered. So like a broken satellite, now full of nuclear shit, losing, losing orbit soon to fall into the atmosphere and land somewhere, like knowing where that thing is going to land is important. And Ronnie Reagan explained it to her that they couldn't figure it out until the Pentagon guys and their remote viewers told them exactly what day it would happen, where it would happen, how it would happen, how it would happen down to a 200-yard radius. What do you know? So it may sound insane, but it's not. It was a very
Starting point is 00:20:40 real thing. This program ran from 1968 to 2004. At least that's when they told us it stopped, but usually when the government gets caught doing something, they just rename it and keep doing it. So that's probably happened. So like, what does it? What does it? What's interesting? What's interesting is the first time we ever got on the phone together, you brought this up and I told you, I said, I was reading about this on like 2013 and 2014. And the fact that when you read the declassified documents, these read as this happened, this is all true. This is the data. is there.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Oh, yeah. Each and every intelligence report, what they were working on, what they were looking at. And the hard part for most... I got the fucking training manuals. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And the hard part for most people to deal with this, you know, in the modern day is the fact that we are an incredibly materialist um, materialist thinking.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yes. Has just dominated, dominates the culture, dominates the zeitgeist. So when people hear this, they immediately think of the movie that you had referenced, the men who stare at goats, which was basically designed to throw everybody off of this. Because it had just been declassified,
Starting point is 00:22:20 and it made everybody look stupid in that movie until it didn't. But the problem with this is that, people think that their consciousness is a part of their physical body. They don't know how to separate it. And even people like, I remember some evolutionary psychologist, some evolutionist was talking to the Dalai Lama. And he was just basically talking down to the Dalai Lama and everything.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And just, yeah, oh, yeah. Well, you don't know the science. He's like, okay, well, explain the science. science of consciousness. That's what the Dalai Lama said. And the scientist got pissed because he can't. He can't explain
Starting point is 00:23:14 where consciousness comes from. Where it comes up. I mean, I've read every, not every theory. Every theory I can get my hands on. Oh, well, you know, it happened because when we were basically cavemen, somebody found the mushroom and then
Starting point is 00:23:30 they ate that. And that's when they started talking to themselves inside their head and then they thought oh god must be talking to me it's like okay well slow down a little bit how did this person come up with the concept of god where do these concepts come from i mean is it what what in our ideas come from them they think ideas come from them and that was another thing that we when the first time we talked about we talked was i remember there was this a website um Back in like 2016, they took all at the same time, a bunch of the torrent sites got taken down. And there was a torrent site that was called occult.biz.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And they didn't, I mean, they had a lot of occult stuff on there, but they had all this stuff. They had all of the Stargate. That's where I got all the Stargate information from. Interviews, they had interviews that I've since lost with people who were involved in it. And one of the things that I read was it started talking about where do your thoughts come from? And are you thinking your own thoughts or are they coming from somewhere else? And they just had this little exercise in it. It said, not everybody's going to be able to do this, but...
Starting point is 00:24:58 Two and 20. Stand back. You know, completely. shut down your thoughts and then look at your look at the thoughts that are going to come to you and tell me and and ask yourself where those thoughts are coming from and if you know how to do it you'll realize you're thinking you're not thinking these things these things are there are there are things coming from somewhere else yes and people don't want as soon as you say that it shut people shut down.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yep. So it's funny. Either one, they're not willing to, or they're, I'll let you go on a sec. One, they're not willing to accept it
Starting point is 00:25:45 because it just sounds like voodoo to them. Or two, or, and it sounds like voodoo to them, and they can't do it. Or two, they can do it, and it scares the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yes. Why would it scare the shit out of them? Because that means that God exists. Right. This is the, This is the fundamental thing. So that document you're referring to is called the Gateway Report. Anybody that's listening that is ready to turn this off because it sounds insane,
Starting point is 00:26:18 just type into your nearest search browser, The Gateway Report. The very first link that should pop up is CIA's reading room. Don't worry, it's not a trap. They have to, by law, publish every single thing that comes out via FOIA. And they do it in what's called reading rooms. If you want to go learn about the space program that I was talking about that had like satellites before the Apollo program, that's in the National Reconnaissance, NRO, their reading room. So it's not, just click the fucking link asshole. Just do that.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And when you do, you'll find out that not only is everything that Pete just said true, but that the Pentagon has known this since the 70s. That Gateway Report was commissioned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. You know, some unsurious motherfuckers, right, Pete? Some losers with nothing better to do. And the report was done for them by Stanford Research Institute. You know, our most prestigious research university. So the most prestigious research university in the nation, therefore the most prestigious research university in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:34 So Joint Chiefs of Staff, some losers and, you know, some loser university research laboratory. And it will break it down to you and very clear language that when you close your eyes and you say, hello, that voice that says hello back to you doesn't live inside your brain. It does not live between your ears. It comes from somewhere else. because the fundamental tenant, right, the thing that, so I, this brief sidetrack, I was born and raised in the church, baptized and confirmed. It did all my sacraments except for I haven't gotten married yet working on that.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And I haven't needed last rights yet, God forbid, yet for now. Eventually, I'll get there. None of us make it out of here alive. And then I, you know, went to school, got exposed to, you know, science and science knows everything. And I didn't really pay attention to school. I didn't really dig it until later on in life. For some reason, I was working really hard. I just started my first company and had a lot of disposable income,
Starting point is 00:28:49 but really no free time to think about anything. Because I'd come back, you know, and like from work and my brain would be running a million miles an hour. And the only thing I could do, I couldn't sit and watch TV. I was like too many I had to I started learning stuff I just started with history
Starting point is 00:29:07 and just kept right on going went into you know physics general relativity special relativity it did all of the Einsteinian physics
Starting point is 00:29:18 and got the quantum mechanics and it just got me further and further away from God until I got to the end of it right and I had some discretionary income at this point in time
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Starting point is 00:30:58 you'd have to tell me that all the physicists are fake. Because what these physicists are talking about, every textbook I ever picked up was telling me and framing these men is that they believed what Neil deGrasse Tyson believes. That is the scientific belief, right? You're not, you don't know science unless you believe the world looks like Neil deGrasse Tyson. You're a fucking biological robot in a meaningless universe. That's the science. So Google Translate had just come out and a phone app. So I got my phone, I opened up the camera,
Starting point is 00:31:36 or the Google Translate and camera, I hold it up to these letters. And my fucking jaw hits the floor. Because what I read was, I don't speak German, but the last thing I ever thought I would have read. Because here's Einstein and Niels Bohr or Einstein and Schrodinger
Starting point is 00:31:57 talking about God. It was the I was told these guys didn't believe in God, and believe in God is silly and unscientific. And Einstein's like, I see his signature everywhere. Whether I look in the smallest of the small or the largest of the large, he's there. The world, or sorry, the universe would be without him inconceivable in any imaginable way. The forces of nature are held together like a telephone pole on a pencil point. And without someone keeping it constant, all of this would fall apart.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And then he basically says the same thing about, because again, this is a guy that, you know, did the special relativity, general relativity, you know, thing. You know, basically dunked on Newton. And then after that, he went and discovered the atom. And quantum mechanics. So guys kind of having a run right now. He just got done digging into the big and the small. And I didn't know what to make of it.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And luckily, when we're ready for information, that information will always find us. You can call it a synchronicity. You can call it whatever the fuck you want. But out of just like complete randomness, I stumbled across the gateway report. and all of a sudden everything just clicked. I realized that the way I was raised
Starting point is 00:33:48 was a lot more accurate descriptor of the physical world around me than any of the science I had ever read. Because those two things can coexist. They are not mutually exclusive. Like evolution. It was like that idiot fucking scientist you were saying, trying to quiz the Dalai Lama. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:08 This is the best thing about You know Hermeticism Everyone thinks hermeticism is like some spooky religion or whatever like you're dumb. You don't know what you're talking about It's an analytical framework of looking at the world That kind of exposes a lot of the contradictions our brain creates for us like dichotomies or opposites Contradictions. They don't exist Opposites don't exist in nature so they're the only place they exist
Starting point is 00:34:38 They're in our head. Well, Stormy, what about hot and cold? All right. Loud and silent. These are opposites. No, they're not. They're just polarities. Hot and cold are two ends of temperature. Quiet and loud are two ends of sound. Evolution and creation. These are not opposite things. God can create life. You can build a perfect...
Starting point is 00:35:22 Oh, and we're just figuring out that DNA turns out to be a really good computer. I'm sure that surprises only humanity. I'm sure God is not surprised at all. He's like, yeah, fuckos. Thanks for, you know. So you build this perfect thing called life. And you watch it grow and you watch it become something worthy of putting a soul into.
Starting point is 00:35:49 They're not separate things. Evolution and creation are... They're not opposites, which, again, like, that's the Dalai Lama probably thought that fucking guy was hilarious. But I got drug back to faith, if you can call it faith, like by force.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And it was very disorienting. Very disorienting. and experience. Because I got there through science. I never stopped looking for the science of all of these things. And it turns out it's there. There's infinitely more peer-reviewed studies holding up my worldview than Neil deGrasse Tyson's worldview, fake scientist, Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Starting point is 00:36:37 When I say fake scientist, I mean literal fake scientist. The man has never published a single paper and not been cited. in any other paper. Scientifically, the man doesn't exist. He's a creation. He's an actor. But it seems to be someone's fucking prerogative to put a man pretending to be a scientist
Starting point is 00:36:57 on every platform that he can get a hold of. To convince you that you are a biological robot in a meaningless universe, you should consider why that would possibly be. But for remote viewing to operate, right? I have to sit at my desk here in Palm Beach. Let's say Pete's in Alaska and close my eyes.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And I can tell you what Pete's office looks like, what Pete's do it, what he's scribbling on his desk. For that to be possible, which it is, we have infinity evidence of, that means I both exist here in my desk. And I also exist in Pete's house. right that's a non-locality of consciousness the thing that when I close my eyes and I say hello the thing that says hello back to me doesn't have to be attached to my body at all it doesn't even have we don't have to occupy the same space at the same time so why would it be connected
Starting point is 00:38:14 to me when I die it doesn't have to be connected to me when I'm alive you know the Grass Tyson doesn't have a fucking answer for that but our government shirt did because they operationalize the technology, which is what they called tech consciousness. They called it a technology. They operationalized this technology for 40 fucking years, and likely still do today. So our own government thinks materialism is full of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They're just hoping you're dumb enough to believe that it's not. Let's go back to the... Oh, the emotional part. I skipped over that. I bet. Two in ten having a soul. So I just, I just released an episode before we started talking with an Indian gentleman who is, yeah, giant is, he's very honest.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I mean, honest to, I asked him, I said, well, if all this is true, why should I, why should I believe you? And he took that right in stride and said, you know, he really should. shouldn't. You really should get to know somebody before you. So what he's talking about is he's describing a people that are motivated by two things. They're motivated by sex and they're motivated by money. And they're probably, when you take into consideration, the groups, he doesn't only talk about Indians, he groups a whole bunch of other people in the world in this groups. And it's all obviously in the poorest, quote unquote poorest, but really it's just places where they can't. Without somebody else, they can't, they can't even come close to where we are, where the least
Starting point is 00:40:22 of us are. And when you take into consideration, you have to look at that and you have to, you have to look at the amount of people that he's talking about, a quarter of the, the world. Yes. And it seems like what he's describing is he's describing people who don't have a soul. He's describing beasts. This Black Friday game stream and go full speed with one gig, sky broadband. And watch unmissable shows like all her fault on Sky.
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Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. These are, these are not, these are humans in the, maybe that's even a bad word to use, but humans in the most primal sense, the most animal. holistic sense and bodies without consciousness all right will become vessels or vehicles for consciousnesses without bodies yeah we talked we talked about that too when when I was talking about my my forays into different forms of meditation and which I've which I've stopped doing I've I've replaced it with something else that we'll, and we can talk about a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Well, I get you a fight every day if you don't have to. Yeah. But, um, I talked about, I found the meditation, a meditation ritual of Edgar Case. Um, people can go up, go and look at Edgar Case, C-A-Y-C-C-E. And he's just a really good guesser. Yeah. Well, he was also somebody who pretty sure that he was a vessel for, he was a willing vessel for other entities. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And in doing the meditation that he described, I felt like I was being invaded by another entity. And I had to snap stop, and I was sick for a week after that. I had to pull right out of it because I felt like I was being invaded. And yeah, these are, people can say what they want about people's experiences. They're anecdotal, whatever. But the funny thing is, is there's more writing and records of things like what I'm describing than there is of, oh, look, we just found this intermediary form where, you know, a fish turned into, you know, a fish grew legs and walked up onto the land. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:44:20 No, actually, we have thousands and thousands upon thousands and hundreds of thousands of instances of people describing what I'm describing, more times than this fictional science that somebody decided to come up with so that they could so you didn't realize the things that you are actually capable of yes do you want to know what the least diverse um we'll call it membership organization or a group is At least diversity. Diversity people would be really upset about it. The gate program. Yeah, it's all white.
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's all one type of people. Not funny. That's weird. That's weird. It seems that, yeah, I don't know why that is. I have some ideas. Yeah, I don't think there's one one non-European white in the program.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Not a single one. Not a single one. Why is that? Well, okay. So we talked about, like, remote viewing. By the way, I'll give it to Pete in the show. Actually, I think I already gave it to Pete, but I'll give him some links instead to put in the show
Starting point is 00:46:01 notes. Every single thing that I'm talking about here, there's at least two to three dozen peer-reviewed studies. In serious journals, serious physics journals, serious physics journals, serious medical journals, psychology journals, tons, literally tons. I mean, some of the stuff that I'm going to talk about today has been replicated in laboratories, literally 70 different laboratories on four continents. It's a fucking thing. It just is. So one thing really briefly, the shortest tangent ever. There is more science on our side than their side. As in, if I were to stack up all the research, right, mine is a mile high and Neil deGrasseysons is an inch deep. So there's a good,
Starting point is 00:47:01 portion of our group of people that are materialists or that their priors, their materialist prevents them from engaging with what is happening in reality. Why is Julius Evela suddenly relevant in our sphere? Why is this? If you were to call Julius Evela a philosopher, a political theorist, he would beat the shit out of you, probably within an inch of your life. It'd be the worst thing you could call him. Julius Evela was a mystic, an esotericist. You didn't have fuck all to do with the political, except in the fact that what we think is a political conflict, is not a political conflict.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Like, why would a guy whose life's work with spirituality's work suddenly become relevant to us politically? Maybe because the conflict we're in is not a political conflict. Maybe that's why. So, I guess one way to put it would be, well, actually, let's backtrack into what these, what the world looks like and who inhabits it. All right. If, well, what P is describing a lot of, you may think that Pete's just a crazy person, and Stormy's just a crazy person, whatever, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But a whole bunch of other content creators that you enjoy. We are. Yeah, we are. Yes, yes, we are. And we're also completely harmless. So a whole bunch of other content creators that you've been. enjoyed, some of which have appeared on the show many times, some of which who shows that you probably watch. I've reached out to me privately and basically had similar stories to what Pete
Starting point is 00:49:27 had, except for Pete was meditating. He went to that state, almost to that state. where he would be where they are. And that would give them the opportunity to be where he is. But they reached out to me and all of them have described varying forms of sleep paralysis. Like when I was sleeping, in a dream, I woke up in the dream. And then I couldn't move. I was frozen. but conscious and something was standing over me or in my bedroom and it was trying to touch me
Starting point is 00:50:22 and stick its like arm or its hand like into my chest right or standing at the foot of my bed and I either started praying in my dream or I woke up and the number one thing they don't tell me this, but, you know, at this point in time, I've, I've been around so long and I've, I've done so many little forays into, into where they live. I kind of, um, I kind of know what it's like. And I'd ask them, like, oh, okay. Well, this is a dream, right? I'd like, yeah, it's a dream. It was a really terrible dream. And what does it mean? I'd be like, well, first off, it means It wasn't a dream at all. And like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:51:22 I'm like, well, when you woke up the next morning, did you feel exhausted and not like exhausted like you didn't get any sleep, but like you've been run over by a fucking train? Like more physically drained of life than you've ever been. You probably found it hard to walk. You probably really not. and disoriented.
Starting point is 00:51:49 They'd all say, yes. How did you know that? And I'd say, well, the same way I know that's not a dream, you weren't asleep. You were just in that place before you wake up all the way. And then that usually gets a lot of uncomfortable silence. And they'd be like, yeah, but I saw the thing like at the foot of my bed, like in the dream. Was he like, no?
Starting point is 00:52:23 No, you didn't. But you did see a thing at the foot of your bed. You just weren't dreaming. Because the thing about us, for some reason, is... You ever watch... You're a movie guy, right? Do you ever watch The Second Shining? No.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Fuck. It is really good. As in, like, you know, kind of one of those movies that, kind of spills the beans. Is it the Shining Part 2 or is it the... Yeah, it's like Dr. Sleep. Now it's Part 2. It's Dr. Sleep. But basically, what I just described,
Starting point is 00:53:17 minus the sleep, sleeping part of it. The same character. He's just a little bit grown up. But it basically describes why his dad got possessed, but also why all the little monsters that he encountered wanted him and not everybody else. Because remember, his mom didn't see them. And his dad got occupied, right?
Starting point is 00:53:56 He was desold, I guess you could say. But they all wanted him. And that's basically the larger theme of the second film, is that there are a portion of the kids. And the one diversity hire they did slip in there is that, the new young kid that our previous hero encounters is a black girl, which is nonsensical. But that, you know, these things that exist are all trying to drain something out of a portion of kids that or adults depending that only a small percentage of people are born with.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And there's a lot of truth in that because, like, we're kind of on the radar, I guess, you could say. All right, like, we're non-NPCs in, like, the literal sense, as in, like, we're, we imagine, like, NPCs versus us, like, we are playing in single player, right? That's what you think of when you think of NPCs. But that's the wrong way to look at it. The right way to look at it is, yes, there are NPCs. And yes, dear listener, if you're listening to this, you're probably not one of them. But you're playing verses. You're not playing, you know, single player storyline.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's a both and. Yes, there are MPCs. But also, you're not the only one playing. It's a much bigger game, I guess you say. So, like, the enemy gets a vote. And it's important to remember that because, like, I'm not the way to put it. And I'm sure there's a lot of listeners that are probably really freaked out right now
Starting point is 00:56:20 because they have had a similar experience as some of the content creators that I described. I won't put anybody on blast. But we'll say it's more than two. less than 10, but I don't talk to that many content creators. There's only a couple really good ones. But it's a lot. Kind of like the high percentage of our guys that seem to be in this little program.
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Starting point is 00:57:59 Pete, I asked you the very first time we talked and he was like the very first thing I ever asked you was if you feel like the last three or four years, you've been like, um, you felt like you're going through menopause. I think it's like my go-to description of it, right? It was like, how else do you described being, how else do you describe like as a man, you know, in a way where another man will feel comfortable admitting this to you because first off like admitting it is probably like it can be taken in a context that sounds very very very unmanly but i believe i asked pete like do you feel like you're a lot more emotional lately the last couple years and it would be a marked difference right like a noticeable difference between how you used to be before that like something
Starting point is 00:58:53 specifically changed i mean i was i was i was pretty cold for a long time and um just the other day i shared with you that document that i found of my um my great grandfather and um i was reading it out loud when i found it i was reading it out loud to my wife because i thought it was so amazing and everything and right in the middle of reading it i you know it's just just so the the people listening know it's the paperwork he filled out and the oaths he had to take when he came here from Galicia to become a citizen, the Austro-Hungarian Empire. And, like, I'm reading it to my wife, like, right in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I just break down crying. There's no reason for me to start break down crying. It's not something that I ever would have broke down crying. But, you know, it just right in the middle of it, completely choked up, can't finish reading it. It's like, here, you read this. Yep. And it could be like dumb stuff. Like you could just be texting a person and all of a sudden you just get choked up out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Because like even if it's not like you were reading a personal like family document because you'd be like, oh, it's that type of motion. But like it doesn't even have to be that. You could be just like talking to someone or like thinking of a text to something and it just comes out of nowhere and all of a sudden you're choked up in the middle of talking or the middle of typing. or whatever. You're reading things that never, like, you're not like crying at like Hallmark commercials, but like all of a sudden, like, you feel a thing.
Starting point is 01:00:40 For situations or things that you never would have before. You would have, you probably read a million fucking, I mean, you've been doing the ancestry deep duck for a long time. And it just, And the other thing is it kind of comes out of nowhere, as in like, the situation you're in is not emotional. It kind of just happens. And the thing about emotions is, well, they don't come from inside of you. Just like your thoughts.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Well, some of your thoughts do. But knowledge is emotion. All knowledge is conveyed to you through feeling. And some of our more technical autistic people are going to be like, absolutely not, what are you fucking talking about? I'll ask you like, okay, do you love your mom? You're going to say yes. You say it immediately.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You didn't think about it, did you? You didn't go, well, these are the things my mom does. She's really awesome. As soon as I said, your mom, you got like a warm and fuzzy, and it's a feeling. You know it instantly. And this is provable. As in like, we've got a ton of fucking studies for this too.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So I could take Pete to a museum. And I could take him in the back of the museum. And I could put an EKG on him. And I could put an EEG on him. All right. So I'm measuring brain waves and I'm measuring his heart. And in the back of the room, there's this big, giant, you know, thing with a big red curtain over it.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I say, look at the red curtain. And then I yank the curtain down and instantly his EEG and his EKG are doing the same thing if I were to just have his wife hold his hand or give him a hug or something like that. And you're like, okay, so what? Well, the word instantly, that's what? Because, see, underneath the curtain was a beautiful picture, beautiful painting. And Pete knew that painting was beautiful immediately. Okay, so what?
Starting point is 01:03:26 Well, when I mean immediately, I mean instantly. which is odd because it takes, you know, a portion of time for the light to bounce off that painting and go into Pete's eyeballs and for his eyeballs to then flip those two images, because they come in upside down, and then merge those two images to a single image, and then analyze that image. It takes you about a second to a second and a quarter, right, to see anything and understand it. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I could fucking swing a baseball bat at your face. And you'll duck instantly. But you're not thinking, oh, this is a bat. Look at the shape of this bat. It's moving really fast. Like, no, you're not understanding what's happening. Just there's something moving at your face really, really fast. Right?
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's different. But if I put a message on that baseball bat on a Post-it note and I swing it in your fucking face, then you're not going to be able to read it. You're not going to be able to understand it. I put a happy face on it, ironically, because you're about to get smashed in the face of the bat. You're not going to be able to see it. You're not going to know whether it's a beautiful happy face. or a frowny face
Starting point is 01:05:02 because there's not enough time. So somehow Pete's brain knew that that was a pretty picture before he possibly could have known it was a pretty picture. And we're about to experiment with this in the extreme. Because the knowledge
Starting point is 01:05:24 of what that painting was was transmitted to him instantly and it was transmitted to him through the form of feeling. Thoughts are going to jump in and glom on top of it afterwards. Those thoughts, they happen in your head, but that's the only thing that does. Because knowledge doesn't come from you. Comes from somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And you can apply this in a much more real-world example. The term women's intuition is a real thing. As in like, there's a reason that it exists in every single culture and all the oracles and all the soothsayers. And fortune tellers, they're all women. Oh, okay. But also,
Starting point is 01:06:18 this, what's the word? What are they, a placebo type effect, right? This word, women's intuition. It's a nonsense word. Because if you're to peel back to nonsense word, there's a lot of uncomfortable truths there. We don't like those. just like with placebo effect. It literally means in Greek unknown.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So the placebo effect is the unknown effect. Well, fuck you. You gave me fake medicine that told me it was going to cure my brain cancer and it was just tick tax. But now my brain cancer's gone. Like, fuck you. It's not the unknown effect. Don't act like you know what this is. Like you should be looking at this. Either tick tax cure cancer or you have some fucking explaining to do. the same thing with women's intuition because it's i mean i can point to 60 or 70 studies
Starting point is 01:07:16 women know things right one variation of the study is like let's just say oh this pete i'm going to put you into the study pete plans a surprise party for his wife he spends about a month on it He's got all of her friends, got balloons, got presents, got funny hats, noise makers, like everything. And it's at her friend's house. Well, air grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person.
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Starting point is 01:08:59 She doesn't know. And the second she opens the door and surprise happens, she's not going to feel happy. She's going to look like ghost white. Because unbeknownst to Pete and unbeknownst to partygoers and most importantly, unbeknownst to her, right? Some crazy ex-boyfriend has, you know, somehow like gotten into the back of the house and wants to do something bad to her. right she doesn't she has no way of knowing that that person exists and nobody else does either but the second that fucking door opens she knows something's wrong and every single person
Starting point is 01:10:00 that's listening to this has experienced this in their own life right well you're going to ask her like bitch i spent a fucking month what do you mean and she's going to say i don't know i want to home. I don't... And then she's going to struggle to put it into words. And you'd be like, what do you mean you don't know? And she's going to be like, I don't know. I can't explain it. Well, that's because she can't physically put it into words for you. Because emotion is really, really, really hard to pin down in words. That's why we come up with all these nonsense words for it, sad. Okay. Well, if I don't ask you, what is sad? Describe sad to me. You're going to have a really fucking hard time. Or happy. Like, okay, what does that mean? Happy? The only reason these words
Starting point is 01:11:00 exist is because we all roughly experience them the same way. So we don't have to explain the emotion to anybody else because it'd be a fucking damn hard time to do it. But Pete's wife knew immediately. And the same way, every person listening to this knows and can remember a time where they were sitting there by themselves, they thought, and then all of a sudden felt like someone was staring at them. Well, if I'm behind Pete, let's say I'm 50 feet behind Pete and I'm staring at him. He is going to know. Some of the hunters that listen to this,
Starting point is 01:11:50 you already know this. Because if you've been fucking tracking an animal for forever and you finally got it in your sights, you know not to focus on it. Because the animal knows. Well, how does it fucking know? How did Pete know that I'm 50 feet or 20 feet behind him? He didn't know I existed.
Starting point is 01:12:11 So the knowledge of me being the guy staring at the back of Pete's head somehow got transmitted from my brain to his. How the fuck did that happen? Because there's no way Pete should be able to know that. Like zero. We're not connected. I didn't fucking send him a message. I didn't make a sound. I just stared at him. Staring doesn't mean anything. Because if I was looking a foot to my left, Pete wouldn't have felt shit. And you can take this little thought experiment and do it in a real life experiment, which has been done many times, to the extreme. So let's say I take Pete to another place. I already took him to a fucking museum. Now I'm going to take him to a fucking football stadium. It's going to be empty. And there's a chair and then a desk with some wires. It's at the 50-yard line. all right so chair is facing in one direction he sits in the chair and i put the EEG machine on him again and i put the EKG machine on him again and then i hop in a little golf cart and i leave the stadium
Starting point is 01:13:36 i leave the parking lot i go eight miles in the opposite direction from him. That's beyond the curvature of the earth, seven miles, roughly. Right? And then I go up on top of a tower. And on the way, I picked up some random fucking guy, just so it's not me, right? So I take another guy, and bring him up the tower with me, and the top of the tower, there's a telescope with a big shutter on it. And I say, hey, look through that shutter. Or sorry, look through the telescope. The guy's going to look through the telescope.
Starting point is 01:14:29 And I'm going to say, I don't see anything. Like, no shit. Because the shutter hasn't opened. Keep looking. And he keeps looking. And all of a sudden the shutter opens. Just enough time for his eyes to focus. And that closes again.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And we will see instantly from eight fucking miles away. Pete's EEG machine and his EKG machine go nuts. How is that possible? I just described to you a real experiment that's been done two separate times on two different ends of the country. How is that possible? Did a connection spontaneously self-organize in mid-air to like just transmit that fucking random guy's knowledge that he?
Starting point is 01:15:25 that he was looking through a telescope at Pete transmitted eight miles into Pete's brain? Did that just suddenly, you know, did that pathway, that little communication tube does suddenly form out of existence? No. Well, how else did Pete instantly know? And that's faster than light and faster than sound
Starting point is 01:15:52 could travel over that eight miles. So a person that he doesn't know exist has no possible way of knowing exists at a distance so far away, not light or sound, could have reached him in time. How did he know? And did that pathway that allowed him to know that it instantly form? No, it didn't. I mean, it could. But what's more logical?
Starting point is 01:16:26 That it just self-organized? That instant, the shutter opened, or that it was always always? there and that Pete didn't know it was always there. And that guy looking through the telescope didn't know that they were always connected. How could that be? Well, back to what Pete said when he opened up this podcast. Well, what if your thoughts and your consciousness come from outside of you? Well, then that makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Okay, well, how does that happen? you mean to tell me we're all connected in a way but not really because we're all part of the same thing just to different degrees remote viewing telekinesis like all these things they're
Starting point is 01:17:39 all they're all I'm all just describing variations of the same thing all easy way I explain this is a sea sponge the sea sponge happens to be the perfect explanation or a perfect analogy to you and your existence in relationship to God. You're a sea sponge at the bottom of the ocean. Right. That sea sponge came from the ocean. It was created in the ocean. We'll say the ocean is God in this example.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It was created in the ocean. It's always existed in the ocean. And since it's a sponge, the ocean is inside of it. Because it's a sponge, it's full holes. Filled with ocean, by the way. So it is of the ocean. It is filled with the ocean. And where does it live?
Starting point is 01:18:54 Where is the sponge? Well, it's in the fucking ocean. So it is of the ocean. Operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person.
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Starting point is 01:20:17 That's you. And that means things like remote viewing or how Pete's brain could get either connected to me staring at him from 50 feet away or 20 feet away. Or eight-mile. miles away, or a thousand miles away, because I don't even need to look at him. The same experiment's been done by just focusing on him. A thousand miles away, two thousand miles away, doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Time and space only exists for you physically. Okay, well, how does that happen? Well, dear listener, are you aware of your big toe right now? focus on it. Can you feel it? Can you move it? It was always attached to you. I'm not talking chemically, like electrochemically like nerves. I'm talking about your intention. Like focus on your big toe. Now you can feel it. You didn't feel it a second ago, but now you do because you just change the coordinates of what you're focusing on because there's really no difference between what's happening inside your head,
Starting point is 01:22:11 so to speak, and what's happening inside your big toe, or my big toe, or Pete's big toe. It's all just a question of coordinates. We're all in the same motion. And turns out we can kind of create, we can move things around in the ocean.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Go on beat? That was a lot, sorry. Yeah, and I want to go back, I want to go back to remote viewing. Yes. And what I would call psychic spying, that kind of thing. So I haven't heard anybody talk about this.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I've heard people talk about this, but I've never heard. because no one talks about remote viewing and the remote viewing program and everything. So a buddy of mine this morning sent me a screenshot of an investigative reporter, Catherine Harage, on Twitter. We have some mutuals that Eric Prince follows her, a bunch of people follow her. And she had a whistleblower on from the CIA. And I put this to...
Starting point is 01:23:43 And when I saw the subject, they were talking about, I put this, something just came to me. Because the subject was Havana syndrome. You understand where I'm going? Yes. Havana syndrome, which has affected mostly intelligence assets and quote-unquote diplomats in, well, it started in Havana, but it's also been reported that. has happened in other countries and I finally put together this morning that what Havana syndrome what they may be experiencing is foreign powers thinking that there are
Starting point is 01:24:45 psychic spies there and working to interrupt them yes and stop that And I didn't put that together happen to guys on U.S. soil Mm-hmm. It has. Yeah. So, I mean, I know we can take this into a take this into another tangent, but. Do you remember when you said you got sick? You said you got sick after you felt invaded.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Mm-hmm. Did you look at the symptoms of Havana syndrome? I have what they're calling Havana syndrome. The symptoms. Yeah. Yeah. It basically describe feeling sick, being drained of energy. Well, do you know that a portion about 20%?
Starting point is 01:25:53 I can't remember that it was like 15 or 20%. I think it was 15% or something like that, 10% or 15% of the remote viewers, if they had any type of, like, because you can't, you don't really get to pick who gets it and who doesn't. Well, you can, you can, but some people just naturally have an affinity to it, the ability to be able to do it. But a subset of those people also have other personality disorders. right they're not good people right we all know some that are just perfectly normal people but just not good people right well i know exactly what you're describing i think i think the listener does too yeah well it turns out that a portion of these people um
Starting point is 01:27:05 after about a year or two in the program because they're doing it a lot. If your job is X, Y, and Z, and you're in the fucking military, guess what? You're doing a lot of it. I ask those guys on submarines, how many hours they work. Well, if, like, the nation needs you to, like, remote view something that is, like, mission critical, like, remote viewers were also used extensively in the Iran hostage situation. They were able to tell them exactly what room the hostages were being held on in a complex that was a university in a lot of rooms and they were basically working around the clock they're all taking shifts and a couple of them and this apparently had always happened but a couple of them would have psychotic episodes that would be permanent
Starting point is 01:28:09 I guess you can call it, what do they call it now? D.D. or dissociative identity disorder or split personality disorder is what we used to call it? They would develop split personality disorder. Well, you did some meditating. What happened to you? Somebody tried to get in there. right something someone some there you go that's a different personality yeah different personality funny that how that works yeah so they would develop
Starting point is 01:29:01 permanent this associative dissassociative dissentant dick fucking DID damn it um yeah so both the remote Don't viewers, when they're doing it, if they have any personality traits that I guess you could say are flawed, they seem to have, there seem to not be, there seemed to not be able to do what you did, Pete. And then say, nope, get out of here. So it can be a couple things. right so the men that stared at goats they weren't just remote viewing they were trying to cause physical harm
Starting point is 01:29:52 right in the end they actually blow up that goat remember yep with their brains this was an actual program I can't remember whether it was grill flame or sunbeam and go look these up
Starting point is 01:30:07 but we tried to extend and we don't know whether they were successful at it or not, but there are also reports. These are not from the program. These are separate reports from human intelligence sources, right? And documents that were smuggled out of the Soviet Union, which again, I have. I can drop you if you want to put them in the show notes later. Just remind me that the Soviets were able to do this. cause physical harm, both in laboratory animals and in humans. And knowing a little bit about how they operated their prisons,
Starting point is 01:30:56 particularly the guy, the head of the Soviet, I guess you could call it, like, commissars that went into the Spanish Civil War, that were basically running, because, I mean, you've done enough working with a Spanish civil war, or a Spanish Civil War. I got into an argument with a mutual friend of ours, the name of Astral. And he was like, yeah, no, the Spanish were, like, there was millions of Spanish communists.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Like, it wasn't like a Soviet Union gao from like start to finish. And I was like, no, no, it wasn't a Soviet Union gaop from start to finish. It was a proxy war, like Ukraine, right? And he's like, what do you mean, like Ukraine? And he's probably getting angry even listening to, this. Probably like, no, I didn't say that. I said this. I can already see him chimping out. That's not what I meant. I hear his voice right now. Yeah, 100%. But I was like, well, think about Ukrainian, right? We started that war on purpose. We controlled the government. We cooed the government.
Starting point is 01:32:02 We did a democracy switcheroo, right? Just like the Spanish got, the communist got control of the Spanish government through an election apparently, right? And immediately we began flooding it full of operatives and guns and money and try to take over the country. And then half of the country was like, no, you can't come take over our country. We don't recognize this election. Fuck you. And they're like, no, we won this election, fair and square.
Starting point is 01:32:39 So now we're going to fucking persecute the church. Does this sound familiar? It does to me. And just like all of our spooks are facilitating all the intelligence to the Ukrainian army, doing all the command and control and all the missions, right? And even our special forces guys, I'm sure are just doing the on-the-ground advising. I'm sure they are in no way taking part in any combat operations. I'm sure they're just there to advise troops in the field, you know, to just stand there and, you know, give PowerPoint presentations in between artillery barrages and, you know, in the trenches below the bullets, you know, to advise them.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I'm sure they're not shooting back at all. Well, one of the guys that was one of the Soviet advisors in the Spanish Civil War, the head advisor. right he went on after the Civil War to run a chemical and it's covered everything chemical biological and special weapons laboratory where they experimented on prisoners it's how they tested their poisons their biological agents and all of their other creative ways of hurting and killing people so at the time that like reading these reports and I'm reading about, you know, laboratory animals and participants, whatever. I'm just imagining, oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Like, this is like how they tested every other assassination program they had. Right? They develop it and develop it until they thought they had a fucking poison. They tested on animals when it looked like it was good on animals. And they brought people in. They were prisoners. And they tested it on them. And then if it worked, you got a new poison.
Starting point is 01:34:48 So if our intelligence guys are freaking the fuck out about it and trying to do the same exact thing, that means I would, safe to assume that they were successful in it. And it was more than just lab animals. So. Air grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your industry. and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.
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Starting point is 01:36:18 where not only can you remote view, but you can cause physical harm. And Pete, remember that treasure trove of scientific studies I sent you? Yep. It's something like, it was just like a tip of the iceberg of all of the fucking studies. And these are public. These aren't like classified studies. These are peer-reviewed studies happening in the unclassified world. And you know, as far back as the 70s.
Starting point is 01:36:49 A good chunk of those, I would say a solid quarter of them, or on remote healing. Why would the government be interested in the ability to remotely heal people? Probably because they were also interested in remotely hurting them. Because I mean one kind of necessitates the other, doesn't it? If I can remotely heal you, which surprise, kids, you can. Don't ask me how it works. I just know that it does work. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:29 I, like, these are just the rules down here. That's, that's been proven in Normieville, too. I mean, there are, yeah. Yeah, 100%. Like, we don't make the rules,
Starting point is 01:37:43 Pete and I, we just fucking live here. You know, God created them. This is another thing. It's not fucking, like, the biggest thing that upsets me the most about our guys. Especially when it comes to topic like this, because they'll all tell me how they're not materialists and how a religious guy. They're just religious guys or whatever. But then they'll tell me that this is all nonsense.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Right. Or some of them will tell me it's evil. Right. Or whatever it is. Like, I'm sorry. Like, magic exists. Like, we didn't make the rules. Hevela wrote three volumes on it.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Yeah. Oh, yes. There's another thing. I'm actually staring at them right now. Yes, Julius Ebalah's life work, his magnum opus, was none of the books you've fucking heard of. But if you search for it, you'll find it. It was out of print for a very, very, very long time
Starting point is 01:38:48 until somebody was finally brave enough to put it into print and then had to put out a bunch of posts and public letters and stuff about how they're sorry about doing it. Because they were attacked by Antifa. Antifa. Antifa cares a lot about magic, so okay, okay. But Julius Evela's magnumopis is a trilogy on magic. So Julius Evela and the U.R group. The U.R. group, you can look it up. It was a magazine published by a fraternal order, a very old one, going as far back as Giodano Bruno.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Geodano Bruno is the founder of Rosicrucian. Christian mystics. The Christian mysticism has taken forms in many, many, many different ways, and a lot of saints in the Catholic Church are mystics. I wrote our mutual friend last things because I did a show with him on the movie Constantine. And he got on trying to reconcile basically what I'm saying with Christianity, which is not very difficult. It just takes a paradigm adjustment.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Because when I tell you that all of these mystics, whether they're Sufi mystics, whether they're Taoist mystics, whether they're Vedic mystics, Egyptian or Greek mystics, and later Christian mystics. They are all describing the same things. And in fact, not only did these men never talk to each other and never communicate, they all live very ascetic lives, right? The Sufi Muslims in the 1300s were not like comparing notes with the Taoists, you know, know, maybe 200 monks on top of a fucking mountain, literally, in China, probably not swapping a lot of notes, or reading Sanskrit and you're swapping notes at the Vedics.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Not happening. But yet, across culture and across time, which is how we prove things, like Pete was talking about, you know, lack of a better term, demons. how they are all described no matter where you look throughout human history and when you look people are describing roughly the same thing and how some people will take that as in like oh man there's all just one religion bro it's all this a unified thing like everyone's just all part of the same thing man that's not at all what's happening right i said that you're a sponge the bottom of a fucking ocean.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Right? So just because various people, at various places and times, stuck their head underwater and talked a little bit about what the fucking ocean looks like doesn't mean that makes this a unified religion or whatever.
Starting point is 01:42:27 People can be wrong, but still be right about a lot of things. Right? Like describing what the bottom of the ocean looks like. what the topology looks like, right? What does the map look like? It doesn't mean there's like a universal thing. It just means that your reality is a lot more intricate than you originally thought it was.
Starting point is 01:42:54 All right. If all of the Sufi mystics and all of the Greek mystics, Vedic, and Taoists were all all describing clouds, you wouldn't have an issue with that. But yeah, no shit. Clouds are everywhere. Everyone sees clouds. Clouds exist. So what? They're describing clouds. And I would turn to you and say, they're describing clouds. You just don't see clouds because you're distracted, preoccupied. All right. So they are all just describing clouds. Doesn't mean there's some universal meteorology, it just means that at some point in time, each of these men saw a cloud and decided to write it down.
Starting point is 01:43:56 They're not telling you how the weather works or anything like that. I'm sure they all do in their own ways, but they're not all correct. In fact, all of them except for one group is correct. Because back to that thing about content creators. that you may or may not know, all describing to me the same thing about a certain type of not a dream that they had in my personal experience, which was a lot more. Well, there's been several, none of them fun, but they all started praying to Christ, and it ended.
Starting point is 01:44:42 and mine wasn't me being asleep and then being awake and thinking I was asleep and then waking up in the morning going wow what a crazy dream I just had mine went on for months and months in my real life and I tried everything believe me when I tell you everything except for one thing. Right? I said that I was a Christian as a young, young lad, and then moved away from the church. Right. But then discovered, oh man, wow, mysticism seems to be a lot real.
Starting point is 01:45:38 And God seems to be real. Right. But that doesn't make me much different than any of those fucking dumb cunct-at-burning man, like waving crystals around, does it? But I'm a Christian now again. Because what happened to me, what didn't happen when I was in bed asleep, and then the thing came to me. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest.
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Starting point is 01:47:09 Get the facts, be drinkaware, visit drinkaware.aweer. Right. Out-of-body experiences are something that may happen to some people accidentally and rarely. And usually it'll be confused with a dream. It'll usually happen when they're kind of in that state of about to fall asleep. Or just waking up.
Starting point is 01:47:37 But you can, you don't have to be and you can do it. And you can go all types of places and you can learn all types of things. But you're where they are. And everything up there, out there, whatever hates you. A lot. all of them and they all lie they all try and pretend to be something that they're not and they're just long enough to get close to you and when they see you or realize that you are seeing them right like remember this is intention right my eyeballs are still closed on a couch meditating I
Starting point is 01:48:37 I didn't go anywhere. My physical eyeballs didn't. So when I say like C, I mean intention. Intention operates the wheel. Intention is what the machine runs on. Intention is the currency of the realm, no matter what, however you apply it in every instance. But when you see them and they see you, you'd be kind of come very interesting to them.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Um, since I know this is probably going to go on YouTube, I'll refrain how I normally describe this. All right. So imagine like you're looking at your backyard. And all of a sudden, a blade of grass says, hey, you. Hey, N-word. Hey, you. All of a sudden, that blade of grass is now the most interesting fucking thing in the entire world. for you. You're going to want to know everything you can about that blade of grass. You're going to check on it every single day. You'll probably look at it all day. Like, whoa, this grass just called me a fucking, you know, a racial slur. It's interesting. And just like that, you are interesting
Starting point is 01:50:07 to them now. And they want to hang out and torment you and try and make you do terrible things to yourself mostly. And the only thing, like, I mean, what I mean everywhere, I mean everywhere. Every mirror I walk past. every darkened window, every shop window, every tinted car window that was reflective, every place I could see my reflection, there it was, right behind me, just letting me know, hey, buddy, here I am. It's a very horrible, horrible image. And the only thing that worked, I tried, like I said, everything, was Christ. Because after a while, you're like, I'm going to either A, go insane or B, kill myself.
Starting point is 01:51:27 One of these two things is happening. Like, this cannot go on forever. So when you realize after a while of it hurting you that you can hurt it, it's a very empowering thing and you keep doing it until it goes away and never comes back. And that's how I can do. definitively say that they only hate one thing. They're only scared of one thing. Only one thing hurts. You know, Taoists can say whatever they want, right?
Starting point is 01:52:05 Muslims can say whatever they want. Those Hindu freaks can say whatever the fuck they want. But only one thing hurts them. And that's Christ. So you can take that however you want. but knowing that has saved my ass many times. It's the most valuable piece of information you could possibly have. Because just knowing these things exist somehow puts you,
Starting point is 01:52:40 if you're not already on the radar, just on the radar. Like, if you only know that 20% of the population has the ability to change reality, actually let me backtrack a little bit. Because you're probably like, why the fuck would they give a shit about me? Consciousness, conscious or not conscious? Well, this is why. And this is probably one of the most well-documented experiments there is. At least that has to do with this.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I guess gravity would be a more documented one because every time you drop a ball, it falls down. So I guess that would be more. But this would be close. All right, so 70 different labs on four continents. Tons of peer-reviewed literature. So there is something called a quantum randomness generator. It's a QRG. It is the most scientifically accurate piece of machinery mankind has ever made.
Starting point is 01:53:50 We use it to do stuff like time atomic clocks in our supercomputers. It's pretty darn accurate, pretty important. Because randomness is a very very important. is a very difficult thing to do in absolutes. So if Pete were to say, hey, I'm going to flip a quarter, pick heads or tails. I'm going to pick tails every time because if I flip a quarter a million times, right, it's coming out 48% heads, 48 and some change, and 52% tails and some change. So that means there's a 2% higher likelihood that's going to be tails.
Starting point is 01:54:32 So even in flipping a quarter, you're not going to get randomness. And pretty much anything else in our world is very hard to get absolute randomness. The only time we see absolute randomness is in quantum particles. They pop in and out of existence. They do all types of weird shit. But they do it randomly. right absolute randomness at the fundamental base layer of our reality so that's what the quantum randomness generator measures and if you say hey i need a 50-50 probability distribution i need a
Starting point is 01:55:18 perfect binary zero or one it's going to spit you out 50-50 out to 27 decimal places it'll be 50.000000000000. I probably shortchanged you like 10 zeros, but it's really fucking accurate. So Dr. Dean Radin, who's probably one of the best, he was the guy that led when I said that the Pentagon, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, right, tasked Stanford Research Institute. with studying this thing called consciousness and where it comes from. The person that they went to was Dr. Dean Radin. Dr. Dean Radin was the director of the Stanford Research Institute for 30 years.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Right. He's not a fucking slouch. And he was the guy that came up with his experiment. So you take a quantum randomist generator. It's about the size of a garbage disposal, right? You can fit it under your counter in your kitchen. You can also fit it underneath a desk. And really, if I stick it under a desk, it also looks a lot like a garbage disposal. Wouldn't even fucking notice it.
Starting point is 01:56:44 That should I put like a sheet over or something like that? You're not even going to know it's there. So he would get postdoc students, which are basically slaves. And he would bring them in one at a time into a room. There's a lady in the clipboard at the door. And there was a timer for 60 seconds. And lady with the clipboard, said pick a number zero or one don't tell me you could tell me but whatever just don't
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Starting point is 01:58:26 Right. And visualize the number you pick. Either visualize the number zero or the number one. and hold that image in your head, focus on that zero or focus on that one for 60 seconds. And they did. One after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other. And, well, it turns out when you focus on the number zero or the number one, that 50-50 distribution is no longer 50-50.
Starting point is 01:59:04 it's not, let's put this way. If it was 49.99999999999999. That would be impossible. Everything we know about physics, quantum mechanics, like it or not, is the most accurate piece of physics we have because it itself is accurate to 27 decimal places. It's the most accurate thing.
Starting point is 01:59:35 we've got. And a 0.9999-999 or 0.000-1, whatever, right, let's say it's 10 zeros or 15 zeros and then the number one. All right. I've moved up 12 zeros. If I moved up six zeros, right? So I did 18 zeros and then one. So 50.15 zeros and then number one. That would be a six sigma event. That would be the chances of that happening are one in a trillion. I'm sorry, one in a hundred trillion. I can't remember which. It's late.
Starting point is 02:00:29 So if it was a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a decimal place, it would be one in hundreds and hundreds of trillion. But it didn't move up a fraction of a decimal place. did it. No, it didn't. It moved up one whole percentage point, which is, well, it's fucking impossible is what it is. Everything that we know about physics, every single thing we know about our reality says that that's impossible. And not only is it impossible, but it was done again and again and again and again hundreds of times. Actually, in this particular study, thousands of times. and the study was replicated in 70 other laboratories on four different fucking continents.
Starting point is 02:01:16 It exists. And what else is funny here is if you get two or three people in the room, let's say you get three people and they all get together and they all pick a number ahead of time together. And they go in that room and they all focus on the same number. Let's say they all pick one. They're all focusing and imagining and visualizing the number one. Well, you'd imagine that that would be 53, 47. Again, fucking impossible, but whatever.
Starting point is 02:01:54 It isn't. It's like 56, 44. So that means it's more than the sum total of each individual. It's nonlinear, right? It's cumulative, sorry, it's not cumulative, it's nonlinear. Right? So when you see that happens, that happening, what that's actually measuring is the physical fabric of reality.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Everything that you are, the chair you sit in, is made up of the same things that this thing is measuring. Right. And Adam is not very well described because an accurate description of an atom would be like a football stadium. right? And let's say I take a tennis ball and another tennis ball and I put the two tennis balls in the center of the football stadium at the 50-yard line. And then the electrons that go around the outside, atoms only made up with three things. Protons, neutrons, electrons. The electrons that orbit it, they would be about the size of a skittal, right? and not orbiting around the stadium, orbiting around the fucking parking lot.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Right? So 99.999% of atoms are empty space. There's no reason that Pete should not fall through his fucking chair right now and then fall through the floor beneath him and then fall through the earth and out the other end. Because there's nothing. There's almost entirely air. the only thing that makes his chair solid
Starting point is 02:03:47 is the randomness of those electrons zipping around the parking lot popping in and out of existence right those electrons make that atom solid even though the atom itself is not solid there's nothing fucking solid about it so the same thing that that quantum randomness generator
Starting point is 02:04:15 is measuring is the same thing that keeps Pete in his fucking chair. So when you say that these people, just regular people, tens of thousands of them, focusing on one thing or another thing, changes the behavior of those electrons, then you've got a big fucking problem. Because what you're telling me is that what you're telling me is that what he's, human beings focus on what they direct their intention towards fundamentally shifts the fabric of reality. What's happening? What can happen? Right? So that was hard for me to swallow. Because so far, up until that point, I thought I pretty much had things mapped out. Like, okay, yes, world looks like a lot more like the Bible.
Starting point is 02:05:17 I get it. But I wasn't supposed to have any say. You're not supposed to have any say. Well, because you don't. Individually, you don't. Some of you may have more than a say than others, but it's collectively. Right. So what that tells you is that like when you see a church and you see a congregation and prayer, all focusing their intention on the same exact thing, right? How the devil would look at that, is that's a weapon system. That is the other team's fucking guns. That can do things. That can derail what I've got going on.
Starting point is 02:06:24 But how do they have any say at all? They're just people. They're just souls. And the way it was explained to me, and I haven't had a better way of explaining it. So I just steal it. And the person who told to me is dead. so I don't have to give him credit
Starting point is 02:06:42 but he asked me he goes well man was created in God's image right I said yes duh
Starting point is 02:06:54 I didn't say duh I had a lot of respect for this man but I said yes and he goes well how is God created you in his image
Starting point is 02:07:07 does God have two legs and two arms and a nose and ears and mouth? I said, no, he doesn't. He says, okay. Well, how about the universe? God created the universe, right? And I said, yes.
Starting point is 02:07:28 He goes, well, how did he create it? And he said, he spoke it into existence. And I said, really? How, um, uh, if he doesn't have a mouth and doesn't have any ears, and there was no one else to hear him, did he really speak it into existence with words? I guess not. What did he do then?
Starting point is 02:07:57 Right? And I said he willed it into existence. And he said, okay, well, if you're created in God's image, but he doesn't look like you, not shaped like you, what else do we know about God? Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say,
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Starting point is 02:09:16 Well, he willed things into existence. And the guy said, kind of. Yeah, he created. He created the world around him. And he's like, do you think that man, when we say is created in God's image, do you think he's saying that we have a little bit of that? Not maybe individual enough to where it would matter, but that we have the ability to create our environment around us.
Starting point is 02:09:56 I said, I don't know. And he goes, well, you know, we're the only animal that does it any other way, right? Whether you create the way God creates or just creates, period, we're the only thing on the earth that shapes its environment to its will. right? If you want a clean backyard, you can either, you know, pray to God that it'll be clean if you get a whole bunch of people together. And they all really want your yard to be clean. They all focus their intention on it and pray on it. They invite him into the equation. Then it'll get clean. If you believe it and if they believe it. If they believe in God,
Starting point is 02:10:51 and they ask it to be done through God, it'll be done. Or the other way you could do it is you could get your ass up and stop being lazy and rake your leaves and clean your backyard. Either way, whether you do it the first way or the second way, we are the only creature on the planet that does it. And this is when I see destruction, Pete. I see Satan. I see evil.
Starting point is 02:11:30 everywhere. And you asked why, like, some people see it and other people don't see it. I think everybody sees it. Because, like, the guys that are on our side, right, the ones that will tell us every day that, you know, they're materialists or they don't, you know, they're not religious or whatever, I think they see what we see. I think they do. But if you admit that you see it to yourself, then you have to choose, right? Because if I admit that I see, like when I see destruction and chaos, that's being deliberately created on purpose or the inversion of God's order, turning, there's lots of ways.
Starting point is 02:12:42 that we see inversion today. I don't need to list them for everybody, everybody knows. But other people see it too. But if they admit that they see it, then they have to choose. Because if I admit that I see evil, like real evil on the spiritual sense, evil,
Starting point is 02:13:03 then that means if that exists, then it's opposite exists. And if his opposite exists, it means God exists. And if God exists, then he expects something for me. me. He's told me directly that he does. And that means that I then don't get to have just a life that I wanted. I have a different life now. Right? Because before I saw this and before I admitted that I saw it, the only thing I focused on or could focus on was me, right? Like, what does the average person, if I say, like, hey, man, what do you want to do with your life?
Starting point is 02:13:52 a regular person will just say, oh, I want to get this and I want to get that and then I want to have these things. You know, whether that be a family or whatever. You know, I want to have nice wife and kids and nice house. You always hear the word like I, a bunch, and then have a bunch. But if you see evil, then you admit that you see evil, well, that shit goes out the window, doesn't it? because now I know that God exists and he knows that I know and he knows that I know that I see evil, now I don't get to just focus on whatever I want to do, right? All the I want to have, I'm going to have this or this, because God is quite clear about what we're supposed to do if we see evil.
Starting point is 02:14:58 because to abide evil, he tells us directly, is to do evil. To see evil and say nothing and do nothing is evil. But if I don't admit that I see evil, that what I'm seeing is evil, that's just politics. I'm sorry, but carving the genitals off of... That's not politics, is it? Destoring churches isn't politics. People definitely go spend a lot more effort and energy rationalizing away evil than it would be to just accept it.
Starting point is 02:16:10 What happens if you accept it? Well, you're not the same anymore. No, the duty thing. People are afraid of change. Yeah. Duty. It's accountability because you're going to die. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 02:16:28 I'm constantly like, yeah, what the fuck? What did you do? Like you saw evil and you cared about the stuff you want? I don't know what your experience is with people. Because of your platform, you get communications from all types of people. Like, I'm constantly amazed. Pete's listenership is vast. he's he's got he's got informants everywhere yeah it's pretty it's pretty wild when people
Starting point is 02:17:15 contact me and go you know this person or somebody would be like i was at this party or a get together and i'm listening to people have a conversation and it was a conversation you had on an episode is like almost the exact same conversation that you had on an episode a week before. And they're like, there's no way. They're like, there's no way that it wasn't lifted from your show. And then they'll tell me who's having this conversation. I'm like, oh, fuck. That means, that means I have a responsibility in the things that come out of my mouth now.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Yeah. Fucking Mark Andreessen's posting about, uh, about, uh, the golden age and tariffs and how that funded the government. Did a long Thomas Carlyle post yesterday? Was it this morning? Yeah. It was funny because the only other time I've heard anybody talk about tariffs and how it used to fund the other, like the government or whatever.
Starting point is 02:18:23 And how that actually the tariff, it was actually the tariff policy that brought about the golden age. Was when you and I talked about it. Well, Mark, if you're listening, keep up the good one. Keep up the good work, man. And you want to know what? If he's listening, that tells us a lot about the caliber of listener that you have. And I think the big point it also says is that another thing I see going around is that what we do and what we think in our little sphere doesn't matter.
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Starting point is 02:20:43 And she's going to tell you, I can't explain it. I can't put it into words. I just have a really bad feeling. And if I were to ask you or any of our friends, like, okay. Because the very first thing I asked you was like, do you feel like, you know, anyways, we covered that. But what is that feeling? We have, this conversation is going to be ongoing.
Starting point is 02:21:16 Oh, yeah, shit. We're over two hours right now. It's actually, it's actually New York. years Eve and um and yeah we can pick this up and uh we'll pick it up soon you know we'll make this a series just like the other one where we'll just continue to bring topics to this and yeah there's so much start the conversation and see where it goes yeah and also let's let's wait for some feedback too because that can you know that can dictate a lot of what may people may want to hear Yes, I know there was a lot of attention about the gate program that was going on around our spheres.
Starting point is 02:21:58 So, yes. So hopefully listeners tell Pete what you think and if there's any specific thing that you want us to touch on. Because, I mean, Pete and I privately have had a lot of conversations about this type of stuff. Probably it represents, I'd say, like a large majority about what we actually talk about. because that's what actually matters. How often do we talk about politics? Yeah, very rarely in comparison to other things. But this stuff, I guess what I'd say is like this same reason I'm doing this on New Year's.
Starting point is 02:22:36 I don't go out and party much. Like New Year's has always been like a time for me for like to reflect, like to take really, really seriously where I'm at. Yeah. Me and Kelly are going to sit at home and, um, Just welcome in the new year and then go to bed and wake up tomorrow and right back at it. But one thing that I do want to cover the next time is maybe we'll talk a little bit about a movie that got panned by a lot of people called Padre Pio. And anyone who knows about Padre Pio, well, Shia LaBouf plays him in the movie. and Shia LaBuff came out of that
Starting point is 02:23:21 movie went into that movie as a you know God good idea he came out as a Latin Mass Catholic No way are you serious Yeah I have had a fucking TV in like a decade So I don't I don't know any of this stuff
Starting point is 02:23:42 Are you see yeah So Shia LeBuck isn't he like a Is he like a Is it transformed performers movies and yeah yeah but isn't he um you know he's an act is he jewish i don't know i don't think so i don't i haven't looked that up to see it well because if so then he's i hope i hope he's not not for any cynical reason but i've listened to some of your previous guests i uh is it hunger I can't remember the ostracization that...
Starting point is 02:24:21 Yeah, he had a Jewish mother and a Cajun father who was Christian. Yeah, I've heard from other people that were also raised Jewish that found Christ. A lot of unpleasant, like, familial stuff happens, right? Basically, you're kicked out of the family. or, you know, in the nicest way possible. So I hope that's not the case because that's really trauma. No, that was, that was Phyllos talked about how, you know, he found Christ when he was living in Israel. And, you know, he was basically told, yeah, you can't be here anymore.
Starting point is 02:25:02 Oh, God. Yeah, I hope that's, I hope that's not the case. But, yeah, he's real. Shilboff said he was, he was raised around both sides. He was baptized and Ba'Mitzfud. one of the camps he attended was Christian and then after doing this movie, he embraced the Catholic faith.
Starting point is 02:25:22 Probably the last movie he's ever going to do. He's got a couple other things coming out, but we'll see exactly what direction he goes in. He's big enough to produce them himself. Like, look at nobody wanted to fund the passion, and I believe the passion is one of the highest grossing films of all time. Yeah, made Mel Gibson like a billion dollars just because he decided he was going to finance it himself and do it himself. Oh, real quick, before I go, these are the lists of Catholic mystics.
Starting point is 02:25:59 You have Meister Eckart, who's the greatest, because he's the goat. But you have St. Gregory of Naiza. He's the father of Christian mysticism in the fourth century. He's one of the few saints that are revered by both the Orthodox and the Catholic Church. Padre Pio, right? The aesthetic mystic, like St. John of the Cross and St. Francis, aesthetic mystic is a certain type.
Starting point is 02:26:30 That's so far. I need to look into Padre Pio now more. St. Inundius. Go on, please. Padre Pio used to say, when Padre Pio used to say, when Padre Pio is, Pio needed to pray, he would say, bring me my weapon. That meant bring me my rosary. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:26:50 This seems to also be a theme, by the way, Pete. So you also have St. Ignatius of Loyola. He was an intense mystic, and he had a mystical experience on the battlefield. I believe he lost a limb and was not able to, um, to fight anymore, but he became the founder of the Jesuit order. And I mean, yes, the Jesuits have gotten very far off the path. But in the early church, they were like the Navy SEALs. Like every single one of them, like when they were going off to do missionary work,
Starting point is 02:27:30 they full on expected to die. Being a Jesuit, it would probably be about like in the middle ages, being a Jesuit is probably about the most dangerous job you could fucking have. St. Joseph of Cupertino, St. John of the Cross, St. Francis of a Sissy, known as the nature mystic. Everybody should look into why. St. Teresa of Avala, the prolific writer, and both a ton of her own documentation and third-party documentation. St. Bernard of Clairvaux. Everybody should recognize that name, especially Swiss.
Starting point is 02:28:10 St. John of Claw. Cooper Tino. This is another one that's extremely documented, both by the papacy at the time and four or five separate kings, three of which converted to Christianity. I'm sorry, converted to Catholicism after their experience with Joseph Cooperino because what he's known for is extreme levitation and biolocation. St. Joseph could, when I say extreme levitation, that would be an understatement. And by location means exactly what you fucking think it means. And there is an immense amount of documentation on Joseph of Cupertino, St. Joseph
Starting point is 02:28:59 of Cupertino. So it's not foreign, right? Mysticism was a big part of the church, but for some reason, was kind of a Christians used to have the prayer of quiet, which if you know anything about what they called the prayer of quiet, is functions in all, it's almost identical to like what Zen Buddhists would describe or practice as, as transcendental meditation. So like, come the beginning of the early 19, or sorry, the, early 1900s and late 1800s. It basically got from both Protestant and predominantly Catholic
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Starting point is 02:31:34 right, where you shift your focus matters. Right. It's not that movies are predictive programming. that's a perpetual conspirator thing, like, oh, they have to tell you what they're going to do before they do it. So that's why they make movies. I'm like, no, dummy. No.
Starting point is 02:31:58 They can't do it by themselves. The reason that they show it to you in movies isn't because they're going to do it. It's because they need you to do it. It's not predictive programming. They're not telling you. what's going to happen. They are painting an image for you because your brain with movies, when it logs memories of movies, it logs them the same as if those, it puts them in the same place as memories of things that actually happened to you. Right. Your brain in the moment,
Starting point is 02:32:41 your brain is in-dinguish inability to distinguish it from reality. So when they are showing you these things, they are basically directing hundreds of millions of people's intention on something. And it's not that it was always going to happen. They just needed to let you know, which is fucking idiotic. It's that it probably wasn't going to happen without your help. So be careful what you focus your mind on. Think about it consciously. And one last thing I'll say.
Starting point is 02:33:19 And I know it's getting late. But a lot of you have wives or girlfriends. So the reason I wanted to say this in the first episode instead of wait for the second episode is because it's important and it'll probably make the woman that you love a happier person because she probably carries a lot of guilt that you don't know about for not her fault. And I think Pete, you and I talked about this briefly when we first started talking. But women are kind of half in, half out of our world. like this other place, the spirit place or whatever, it's not a separate place. As above, so below does not mean what you think it means. It would be more accurately described in today's parlance as above is below.
Starting point is 02:34:14 Below is above. It's the same place. Right, like in Constantine, when he has to go to hell to go, like find stuff or whatever, if you notice, basically, he's in the same place. Right? It's just a layer of like his reality. Right. So hell is where he is.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Just like somebody kind of like peeled away the layer. Like it exists in the same place he exists. He just doesn't see it. Right. So women are vessels spiritually and physically. Right. They don't, in the hermetic sense, they're described as of the waters, right? So the reason that women have intuition, right, and the reason they're able to know things
Starting point is 02:35:12 better than men are, we're good at the will part. Think back to what I said about will and God. They're better at the knowing part. So it's because they're half in that water, that like river. So A, they're really susceptible to outside forces, invaders, like to what Pete was describing. And if you ask your girl and you say it in a very, you make her feel extremely safe and accepted because she's not going to kind of want to tell you these things. And you don't want to ask her what the things are specifically because she'll be too embarrassed and ashamed to tell you. But what psychologist joking, I say jokingly
Starting point is 02:36:12 because it's kind of a fucking sick joke. But what they call intrusive thoughts, women get all the time, literally all the time. And they're horrible thoughts. If a woman is a mother, let's just say the thoughts that she gets just randomly just pop into her head that she can't shake they're really really horrible thoughts for some reason when a woman becomes a mother they ramp up but so ask her if she has this and she'll be embarrassed to tell you and just make her feel extremely comfortable because and accepted and you know not judged negatively because women carry around a ton of guilt for thoughts that aren't theirs. And I mean that literally. So what you tell her, you don't have to ask her what specific thoughts are. Because by this point,
Starting point is 02:37:16 you'll already notice what I'm talking about, that she is very ashamed. And what you do is you say, all right, well, next time you get one of these, I want you to call it out as foreign. You know what to shout it out loud. But just in your head, Say, this isn't mine. Whose thought is this? Where is it coming from? This isn't my thought. And the second she identifies it as foreign, it's gone.
Starting point is 02:37:54 And I'll never come back. A different thought may come back. But she can banish that one just as fast as she banished the other one the second she admits. Or the second she calls it out as not from her, not hers. it goes away immediately. And that's because it's not from her. It's not hers. This is why I say intrusive thought.
Starting point is 02:38:21 It's kind of like a fucking joke. Right? Because what the psychiatrist can't tell you is where that thought is intruding from. And dear listener, if you've made it this far, I'm sure you have an idea. So just have that conversation with your check. you'll probably take a huge load off of her shoulders because she guarantees she carries around a large measure of guilt for some of the things that she, that pops into her head.
Starting point is 02:38:51 It may not be every day, may not be every week, but she'll know what the fuck you're talking about, and she'll probably get really embarrassed and a little defensive. So sorry to extend another five, ten minutes. It's already been very late, but have that conversation. see how it goes and alleviate a small bit of pain she'll probably be really thankful that you did yeah that's good stuff that's good advice all right cool well that also is a good way to end it
Starting point is 02:39:28 yeah perfect all right um yeah happy new year to happy new year to you and happy new year to everyone listening and um we'll be back for part two real soon i'm looking forward to it awesome man Have a good evening. All right. Part two. Been a while, man. Haven't talked to you. How are you doing?
Starting point is 02:39:52 Doing well. Doing well. Happy to be back. Yeah. I think we had some positive reactions from our first one, which was very encouraging. Yeah. I mean, there were some people who were sniping, but I mean, you can't please all the faggots all the time. No.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Too many faggots. Yeah. So, what were we talking about right before we started? We were talking about evil, how evil protects itself. Yeah. So, like, at the core of evil, if you're Satan, you can't attack God, so you have to attack creation. What is creation, right?
Starting point is 02:40:34 His logos or reality. You basically have to attack nature. Right. I guess you could say attack truth, but really truth is difficult to attack without, you know, jump off points. So you're going to, evil is going to have to function off of natural truths and then invert those truths, right? Inverting is perverting, really. So if you have to function, right, you basically have to lie. You can, at the core of any of the ways that we see it manifesting in society, at its base layer is a lie.
Starting point is 02:41:19 It could be a little lie or it could be a big lie. It doesn't matter. But because it's a lie, it metastasizes very fast. That old saying that a lie will make it around the world before the truth gets its pants on. And there's a lot of truth to that because a lie is is fit for purpose where reality is not. Reality's purpose is to, like nature's purpose is to exist. Right. But reality's, reality's purpose is to be a grounding stone. Like truth is meant to be a grounding stone.
Starting point is 02:42:01 A lie is meant to be chaos. and truth is stuck in one place, chaos goes everywhere. Yeah. But I mean like, oh, when someone lies, they usually have an objective, right? So therefore, the lie is tailored fit to a particular facet of the agenda. And I mean, this is also why God warns us so much about pride because it's not, his least favorite sin. It's not why he's warning us. He says very clearly that I don't make these laws for my benefit. They're for yours. So it's not like us, you know, the Ten Commandments or,
Starting point is 02:42:55 I mean, I hate to break it down as kind of obtusely as that, but none of those things on that list, including the worshipping of other gods, is for God's benefit. They're for ours. But with lies, they spread rapidly because they're fit for purpose, right? As in like they have an agenda. And they kind of fit like a lock-in key inside somebody's head. Like if I want to take something from you or I want to. to convince you to hurt yourself or whatever.
Starting point is 02:43:41 No matter what it is, it's going to be against nature. It's going to be against your nature or, you know, truth. The terms are almost interchangeable, really. So I'm going to tailor it for my audience, which means it's going to spread rapidly because it's made just for them. But when something spreads rapidly, inherently it undergoes problems of scale. So if a lie spreads very, very fast, you would think that that would be good for the lies sake anyways.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Look at how many people it's, let's say, infecting for lack of a better term. But what is actually happening is it's increasing exponentially the amount of areas that it needs to defend. right the farther and farther a lie spreads the more and more area it has to defend against right so it actually becomes weaker at scale and it knows this right inherently the liar knows that he is lying even though everybody else doesn't there's a built-in paranoia to a lie I'm there's an inborn paranoia to evil it it it's very feminine in its nature i don't mean that negatively you know for ladies i don't mean it like that i mean it it overreacts it is the same way a parent a guilty person always goes over the top in their defense, like before you even ask, right?
Starting point is 02:45:31 It, so not only does it need to defend itself, even when it might necessarily be strategically disadvantageous to do so. But really, it can't defend itself. So what it seeks to do is tie itself into everything else. It thinks it's building up support, but it's actually not. Right. So like the same lie will weave itself through institutions. Right. It'll weave itself through the church. It'll weave itself into, or try and weave itself into your day-to-day life. It thinks that the more act, the more it can anchor itself to the safer it is. But it's exactly the opposite of that. Right? Because if you tie yourself to everything, a loss in any front is a loss on all fronts.
Starting point is 02:46:29 So as a lie spreads, as evil spreads, it doesn't get weaker at scale. It doesn't get weaker. It gets more vulnerable at scale. Right. So that means you don't really have to tell the truth in all places. You only need to tell the truth in one place. and it's undone in all places. A loss in the church is a loss in the political. A loss in the political is a loss in the church,
Starting point is 02:47:07 is a loss in academia, is a loss in your workplace. Because it has to spread everywhere, it is weak everywhere, which is why it's always undone by the most unlikely of servants, the most simple of people. Well, what we're talking, what we're talking about is if,
Starting point is 02:47:33 if a lie can spread around the world and, you know, it spreads out really fast, what you do to combat that is you have to make the world smaller. And that's what the internet, and that's what social media is done.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Because they just can't lie anymore. As soon as they lie. There's too much area to defend. Yeah. As soon as they lie, somebody's all over it. Somebody's investigating it. Which is why, one of the things we learned from anyone who's ever read, actually sat down and read, not looked on Wikipedia.
Starting point is 02:48:15 It's actually read firsthand Joseph Gerbils, Gerbils, knows that he never told a lie. everything he said was true it was just he chose exactly what he needed to say when the book Germany Must Parish came out I mean I think he was the one who said this is this is the greatest gift they could give us we don't even need to we don't need to construct anything
Starting point is 02:48:44 all we need to do is show it to the German people and yeah I mean And now when they lie about something, I forget what was, I'm trying to think of one, but they're numerous in the last, especially in the last, I would say,
Starting point is 02:49:05 10 years, where they came out with a lie and immediately the autism just jumped right on it. And it was boom, it was just, the lie was destroyed, was uncovered within a matter of hours, in most cases.
Starting point is 02:49:19 Yeah, that really is reminiscent of how to one 24 played out. Like for the very first time, it actually seemed like they were on the back foot. But I... That... I... I don't think people have an understanding of, like, kind of how this...
Starting point is 02:49:45 What they're up against, I guess. And what tools they have at their disposal. There is a documentary... It was made in the 70s. to track it down for how often I use it as a reference point. But it really shook me. It's one of those images that stays with you for forever that you wish you could unsee. And it's BBC, which is funny considering, you know, knowing that the British intelligence had such a big role in the Iranian Revolution. It's kind of funny to see BBC on the ground shortly
Starting point is 02:50:29 after the revolution. This is like five or eight years after. And they're walking on the street and there's this woman, this old woman, who is just ecstatic, just happiest old lady in the world. And they asked the translator and the translator asked the old lady, like, why are you so happy from? Because there was like a bunch of people coming down the street. Like, is this, are you guys coming from a celebration. And she goes, no, we're coming from a hanging. My sons were distributing counter-revolutionary propaganda, and I turned them into the Revolutionary Guard, and they were hung. And she's ecstatic. And by this point in time, two other old ladies are next to her, and they're equally as ecstatic.
Starting point is 02:51:27 I didn't realize it at first. And she is like jabbering on and the translators trying to keep up. And she's basically saying that the other two women had turned in their sons as well. And they were also hanged. And at that point I kind of like stopped listening because that's when I noticed that I was basically watching. the same facial expressions, in perfect,
Starting point is 02:52:05 just synchronized perfectly, happening across all three women at the same time, like the same eyebrow raises, the same smiles, the same head turns, all at the exact same time. It was like the non-verbal communication version of a choir.
Starting point is 02:52:33 It was the same voice. And I rewound it and I put it on mute. And it's basically like I'm watching the same voice coming out of three different women simultaneously. And the only other time I saw that, again, was in a video that somebody had shared on acts. I think it was like 20, 22, or 22. It was when like the trannies were really when they would still put boots on the ground,
Starting point is 02:53:09 you know, like when they would counter protest and protest. And there are these, there's this one regular woman and she's being screamed at by three, just, four grotesque monsters. And I saw it again. And I think I shared it with a couple people in group chat. So if you're listening and you remember, you know, I'm sorry I did that to you. I made you watch it. But you're basically watching the same voice be spoken through many mouths simultaneously.
Starting point is 02:53:48 And I think that movies like The Exorcist and movies like Poltergeist or whatever do a great disservice to people trying to understand. really how this shit works. Because I think we established in the last episode I don't know if I touched on demons at all and how they operate. But they exist outside of time and space.
Starting point is 02:54:21 So it is as easy for a demon to be in one place as it is for him to be in a hundred or a thousand or a million. If you're outside of time and space future past, past,
Starting point is 02:54:39 present, it's all just one mushy thing. And being here or there doesn't really matter to you at all. You could, it is, like I said, it's easy to be in all of these places simultaneously. So we think of demonic possession as a one-to-one relationship, and that could not be further from the truth. It is the exact opposite of a one-to-one relationship, right? the same demon will possess hundreds of people, thousands of people simultaneously. And there's a funny thing about, I don't know anything about, about Warhammer 40K, except for, like, what I've overheard in group chats. It missed me.
Starting point is 02:55:36 I never got into it. but I had a couple of nones over my house once. There was like a book signing nearby, and a bunch of guys were going. And they asked if I was going and I was like, no, I didn't hear about it. And they were, they're like, oh, well, it's near you. You should go.
Starting point is 02:55:58 And so a bunch of them flew in. They were all in their hotel rooms. Like, you guys are being stupid. Just come hang out. And then we'll all go. over together. So when everybody's in my living room, one of them started explaining to me how these trans people were basically like this monster in Warhammer 40K. And I asked him what he meant, and he said, you know, I can't remember what he said, he said, Nergal was the character.
Starting point is 02:56:39 And I remember saying, like, excuse me, what did you just say? And he's like, oh, no, it's a, it's a character in 40K. And I was like, no, it's not. It's not a character in 40K at all. And he's like, no, yes, it is. He's very adamant about it. I went into my library and grabbed a book off the shelf and came back and opened it up. And I was like, no, it's not.
Starting point is 02:57:05 the name that you just said and what you are describing is a 6,000-year-old Samarian demon called Nergo. That is hermaphroditic and has a pension for castration. That's what you're describing to me. And the room kind of went quiet. And I was like, all right, well, so either that is a coincidence, a crazy coincidence, or the guys at Warhammer know a lot more about the stuff that I know about than they may have let on. So I had them all give me the lore. And one of them showed me, I'm going to use it as a job.
Starting point is 02:58:06 bump-off point because it, whether intentional or not, it does a great job of describing things that are otherwise very difficult to describe. One of them shared a YouTube video with me when he tried to describe the warp. I guess there's this place called the warp. And as he was describing it to me, I was like, just stop right there. What you're basically describing to me is probably one of the best analogies I've ever heard for what it means when someone like me will say as above so below. Right. It's basically like, oh, well, you know, all of these good energies or these good feelings will be in, you know, go in the warp and, you know, after enough of them, they start to accumulate.
Starting point is 02:58:57 And then that turns into a consciousness when it gets big, you know, and it just kind of pops into real life. I'm like, what you've just described is an agrigor. That's exactly what an igregor is. So Warhammer 40K, there's a lot of truth to it. And I think that's why people so instinctively go and pull from it, because it does fit our reality more than I think any of them really know. And I don't know much about the creators of it, but apparently they're well-versed and some of the very hard to find and very strange stuff that I am into. Because it's just,
Starting point is 02:59:38 there's too many coincidences. So a lot of the ways that these things function are very similar, right? As in like, they don't, a good way of describing a demon or how evil works,
Starting point is 03:00:05 like that is to describe them more like armies because that's really what they are. Like very rarely will it just be a person? And they're not exactly stupid either. They don't see very good. They do smell really good, as in like they have a good sense of smell for some reason. but they don't see great and they try and work smart and not hard
Starting point is 03:00:41 so it's not a coincidence that all of the people in power are evil if you're evil if you are a demon if you're Satan himself you don't want to possess janitors. You don't care. Your goal is to destroy creation. So you can have a million janitors
Starting point is 03:01:12 and not get yourself any further to that goal, but you get 20 politicians and now you're starting to get somewhere. Power is like, you know, demon bait. It really is. That would seem to lend itself to the theory that they're just basically empty vessels. And if you are in a position where you are really not supposed to hold any kind of ideology and you're just there for power, that pretty much opens yourself up. This was said, God does not warn us about pride the most because it's his least favorite sin. He warns us about it the most because it's Satan's favorite sin. It's the easiest door to get into the house.
Starting point is 03:02:21 It's practically unlocked. Because the second you start, let's say you just chalk up a couple victories, whatever they are, whatever you're doing. Right. It won't be long before you think that you are. are doing them. And those are your victories and you're responsible for them. And that will make you think about the thoughts you have in a much different way. Because all of a sudden, you know, you're the shit. Everything you think of is the greatest. Now you're paying a lot more attention to that little voice in your head, aren't you? And that's where he gets you. Every time. Because not all
Starting point is 03:03:16 those voices in your head are your own. You have no way of distinguishing. Pride is the easiest. It's the easiest way. You will basically throw open your front door just being really into yourself or really, you know, high on a series of victories, or your intellectual prowess in whatever it is. If there's one thing that I would urge people to police the most and recognize when they're doing it is pride. Pride is the easiest. All the others are situational, but it's pride that gets you. Because you can't distinguish what's you and what's not. So a lot of people, they find it very hard to believe that they're not just dealing with bad people. Or, confused people, right? Or, you know, people that don't understand the consequences of their
Starting point is 03:04:54 actions. And this is a question I got from a specific person, last things, if you're listening. I told you I wouldn't forget. But people have a hard time grappling with this because they see it as a whole bunch of discrete actors. making individual discrete decisions. Right? I believe, like, the source of the question was, in regards to, like, um, Jewish power. And how come each seemingly autonomous individual atomized unit
Starting point is 03:05:41 seems to break whatever it is that he touches? And he was saying he's like, there's no way that, you know, that can be like an organized thing. It just has to be like something in their nature that causes them to do this. And they're all just running on the same code. And all of these things are just disorganized, decentralized, decentralized, disaster. And the way I want to explain it is that even though you see a bunch of discrete actors on the game board, each being discreetly bad, you're going to come to a problem when you start seeing these meta-consequences occur. Like there's no secret, and this is the
Starting point is 03:06:46 problem a lot of people have with just this power structure in general. How does? Is there a secret meeting of all the academicians in the United States where they all get together and decide to subvert nature in a specific way? We would hear about those meetings, for sure. someone would get out. And how come what they're doing just happens to line up with all the things the doctors are doing, getting kids to castrate themselves? Did all the psychologists and therapists get a meeting too? Do they coordinate with that other meeting of all the academics?
Starting point is 03:07:45 Is there, you know, a quarterly journal that goes around? around to make sure everybody can stay on the same page. And how come everybody in Hollywood is also independently working towards the same goal? He couldn't understand it, except for like, this is just a fractal structure based on very simple broken code. And it's not, right? just because you see a bunch of discrete actors making individual decisions. That's just what you see.
Starting point is 03:08:36 It's what you don't see that matters. What a much more cohesive way of looking at it, and frankly, a lot more logical, is that you're seeing a bunch of independent discrete actors. acting under the influence of a singular unified consciousness. That's what you're seeing. And this consciousness, by its very definition, is outside of space and time. And that gets you back to that, the past, the present, and the future,
Starting point is 03:09:27 is all just one mushy mess to him. So he already knows what the long-term ramifications of each one of his actions are because it's as easy to examine the past and the present as it is to see these things in the future, which is the only way you would be able to do such a thing. because if you also notice that all of these unconnected independent, we'll call them bad things initiatives, all seem to converge, right?
Starting point is 03:10:10 Almost like they hit a critical mass to the point where by the time you realize that it's already too late because it is everywhere all at once. It is impossible for us to see things outside. of a human being's time scale, the timescale of our life. And we can't imagine anybody else being able to either. Same reason it drives me nuts when people say, like, oh, how come God lets bad things happen to good people? Well, to you, that may be how it looks,
Starting point is 03:10:56 but you don't see the thousands of, of consequences that come from that. And what those consequences look like, 100, 200 years in the future. You're only seeing the bad thing that happens in front of you now. And that's why a lot of the things...
Starting point is 03:11:23 I mean, it's like the number one Reddit atheist argument. It's like, why does God make a school bus full of nuns or orphans, whatever, crash over the side of a bridge? It's their inability to see things outside of their own life or outside of the consequences that are directly, you know, what will we say all the time, second and third order consequences?
Starting point is 03:11:51 Now do second and third order consequences throughout time. What's just a village, God doesn't see us just a village. He already can see the cathedrals that are going to go there. He already sees the city it's becoming, or going to become. He sees the end. And so does Satan. And we need to understand that such a consciousness exists. And a lot of people have a hard time with that.
Starting point is 03:12:29 Because just something that wants to destroy creation is hard for us to wrap our brains around. right like it would be like a bank robber that doesn't actually rob the bank he just lights all the money in the safe on fire right to us it's hard to understand like why would he be doing that he's already done all the effort of doing a robbery why would he possibly just wreck everything it doesn't make any sense why would you want to destroy the world like you have to live here? Like, no, he doesn't. And I've had a hard time explaining this to Zoomers, except for I came across a book and is like a kind of popular sci-fi book. It's called The Three Body Problem. And really the only useful tidbit I pulled out of it. I'm not a huge
Starting point is 03:13:41 science fiction guy. Well, I am, but not that kind. is that there is this alien race on a planet several thousand light years away. And it has recognized humanity and is mobilizing to destroy it. So what it does is it sends this quantum force, this invisible force, ahead of it instantaneously. right and what this does is it acts on everyone in the world subconsciously
Starting point is 03:14:28 right makes them unable to progress civilization makes them do extremely self-destructive behaviors nihilistic behaviors and it basically
Starting point is 03:14:43 freezes humanity's progress during that period of time that they are traversing the stars to come and destroy us. Because that's a long period of time, right? Like, you may be able to beat humanity up now, but by the time you get here, you may have a fucking problem. So the way it goes about doing that is it acts on everybody invisibly, psychologically, mentally, and has humanity adopt? or think that they came up with whichever extremely self-destructive ideologies and behaviors
Starting point is 03:15:31 that basically neuters the civilization's advancement. It begins to eat itself. And when I was describing that to someone, at the end of it, I was like, now you understand how Satan works. You can't imagine, you know, a conscious entity destroying everything. because what would be left? Nothing. What did you win?
Starting point is 03:16:03 What did you get? They have a hard time wrapping their brain around it. Like, that's the point. There's nothing left for anyone. You took God's most prized possession and you smashed it. But when you frame it in the terms of an alien civilization, people are able to understand it. Because that's exactly what Satan does.
Starting point is 03:16:30 That's exactly how he operates. It's exactly how demons work. I think it's easier for people to believe that, oh, they all just go to the same schools. They all just go to the same synagogues. That's where they're getting this from. Logically, that makes no sense. You can see, yeah, you can look at homogenous societies to teach all the same thing that have the same curriculum and people believe different things.
Starting point is 03:17:09 So how does that happen? How do you have a homogenous society that just all of a sudden one day decides that they're going to destroy it? That a mass of people, that the people in power, they just one day all go, oh, I mean, a lot of it has to do with greed. When you, reading 200 years together with Dr. Johnson, you start to realize that, well, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 03:17:46 these are Jews who are doing this, who are collectively, in many cases, especially the leadership, are targeting Christian groups and the indigenous groups to enslave them, whether it be with usury, whether it be with alcohol, whether it be with whatever it is.
Starting point is 03:18:13 And you realize it's like, well, wait a minute, how they get there? How are they allowed to do? Who's allowing them to do this? And it's like, oh, they were invited in. And I think that's what a lot of people don't understand, is they think that, oh, this just happens because these entities are so much stronger than us. No, they're invited in.
Starting point is 03:18:39 They're invited in by greed, and they're invited in by something that already mentioned. Pride. And people with pride. So, okay, so there's a group of people who have members of it, who historically have, subverted pretty much every culture they've gone into. How do they get there?
Starting point is 03:19:10 How do, how have they been able to, how have so many of them bought into the same, even if they're not trying to all subvert the same exact way, they're all subverting. Not all of them, of course, but all of the subverters are subverting. The ones in the group are subverting.
Starting point is 03:19:33 How does that happen? What do you? What evolution? That's what they're taught? No, I mean, Solzhenicin clearly shows it the average Jew was being, a poor Jew was being victimized just as much
Starting point is 03:19:56 as a Christian was in many cases in Russia, in Poland, in white Russia. Who were they being victimized by? Well, that's the question. That's the question, you know, and that's when you have to, you have to at least consider when E. Michael Jones says that this started at the foot of the cross. Yes. With a rejection of Logos, well, when you reject Logos, you open yourself up.
Starting point is 03:20:31 You become an open vessel because now you don't have the truth. and anything you can come in that's what he didn't really tie together he came so close but for a spiritual guy I'm surprised he missed it because that's exactly the case if you have no anchor
Starting point is 03:20:54 and really when I said like who specifically is doing the subverting right who is just I think it was Israel Tooff's book history of the Jewish people. That's extremely sad.
Starting point is 03:21:11 When you read it, it kind of takes you aback by learning the things that they would do to their own people. And it wasn't just like whoever had more power at the time or whatever that did it. it was strictly the priestly cast, right at that point in time, the Talmudic class, right? The rabbinical class that did it.
Starting point is 03:21:47 They effectively, I don't know how to else to describe it, but they ruled these communities with a barbarism that we would find, I don't know, in some demon-possessed tribe in the middle of Africa. I mean, if you talk to any of the African Christians, they will tell you. I mean, I mean, DE tells a really good story about his conversation with African Christians, and they're very frank about it. There is a lot of demons in Africa. You believe he says that they are like flies on horses. They're so... There's so many of them. And the type of barbarism that we would see in these tribes, we would see in the Stettles, the crime or the punishment for trying to read or learn another language was being boiled to death. Like this is what they were doing to their own people.
Starting point is 03:23:03 and there is a video. It's on Twitter. I was trying to find it. I'll have to attach it in the show notes. But what it is is about eight minutes long. It's this rabbi explaining the special relationship that educated theological Jews have with demons and how it's different than relationship than any person that's not Jewish has with them,
Starting point is 03:23:44 and how, you know, they give them special powers. And, you know, they can come into them at any time. It's really kind of wild. I almost wish I was able to pull it up and I could let Pete play it, because it's worth listening to a little bit of it, it really is that good. Maybe you can throw it in there in the edits, maybe in the intro, whatever.
Starting point is 03:24:14 But I don't have to go to the rabbi telling me, I could just go to Lex Wexner's 1989 interview with the New York Times, where he tells him all about the little demon that lives inside of his head that tells him what to do and how it's the demon, that makes him make such keen business choices. And the demon tells him to do all types of stuff that benefit him. And he has long dialogues with this demon. What's his name?
Starting point is 03:24:58 Edelson, there's an interview with him saying an almost identical thing. And you can actually look up all types of things. of interesting people, all generally of a certain type of people, but that at some point in time will tell you all about the little demon that lives inside their brain. So either it's just the schools, as Pete was saying, or it's just, you know, an ideology or the way that they were raised. listen to them when they tell you, right? What's his name?
Starting point is 03:25:59 Damn, I wish I knew we were going to get on this topic because I have a whole bunch of little interesting quotes. But some of them were brave enough to flat out tell you the difference between the God that Talmudic Jews or Kabbalistic Jews worship and how that's different from the God that you think that they worship. He's a different guy. They know he's a different guy.
Starting point is 03:26:26 They think it's hilarious that you don't. It's a unified consciousness, outside of time and space, whispering into the ears of millions of individual decentralized people across the planet. That's what it is. And it's much harder. I should go into this.
Starting point is 03:27:04 a little bit more. But let's, I can, I can wrap with that. Because it is a bit of a white pill at the end, because I mean, this is all very, very black pilling and I don't mean it to be. But I know that there was some other feedback we should probably touch on because I want to make sure everybody gets there. We can just touch on some of the, some of the questions and comments people had. What did we specifically, do you specifically,
Starting point is 03:27:36 address the the how evil and how lies spread and relate that specifically to how the quote unquote the left how those are in concert
Starting point is 03:27:56 well I mean funny enough it was your episode with Dr. Raphael Johnson about the the murder of the Romano that was a huge light bulb for me. I've had this conversation with a couple of other VAR guys.
Starting point is 03:28:22 Woes was one from Stonequire, which everyone should go check that podcast out. It's amazing. But he and I were having a conversation about when this started. And he was like, I'm of the firm belief that, Satan was let out of his prison sometime in the early 1900s, sometime in the last century. I was like, well, he's like, I can't prove it.
Starting point is 03:29:00 You know, I don't know how you could prove it. But it had to have happened then, because he's like, it's just like a total phase change. And it's everywhere all at once. And that's when I remembered that interview you did with Dr. Raphael Chonson, when he talked about some of the photos of the basement that the Romanovs were killed in and what was on the walls. So everybody thinks that, you know, when an animal or a person is sacrificed, they think it's the taking of the life. That is the sacrifice. right that that's the currency the thing that was alive and now we killed it for you it's not at all
Starting point is 03:29:56 what's happening it's the blood and god tells us in the bible it's the blood right so it's not the killing of a thing or a person it's the blood of a thing or a person this is why in genesis he tells you not to eat meat with the blood still in it. He's like, that's, you know, that life is for me. So the hierarchies exist everywhere in nature because nature is Logos. It is God. His Logos binds and it sets the parameters of our reality. And that's really what nature is. Nature is hemp. And the hierarchies that exist down here, authority down here is authority up there. Hierarchy up there is hierarchy down here.
Starting point is 03:31:22 They are the same thing. Right. So let's say I was some, I don't know, some occultist. and I wanted to I don't know summon a demon or a spirit if I do such a thing in T-shirts
Starting point is 03:31:52 and flip-flops depending on how powerful is spirit I'm going to get my life ruined and I'll probably die or I'll end up in the same asylum which is the same thing but let's say if I did it in a white
Starting point is 03:32:12 robe or a toga. And let's say I had a sword on my hip, a crown on my head, and I somehow managed to get a hold of enough lion's skin to make a belt. And I do the exact same thing. Not only am I not going to get destroyed, but I will find whatever it is that I summon quite cooperative. because it could be a fucking Burger King crown. It doesn't matter. They don't see that great, but they smell really good. That demon would be looking at Solomon. That's what he'd be looking at.
Starting point is 03:33:16 Authority down here is authority up there. A king down here is a king up there. There is an actual spiritual mechanism in monarchy because we make it so. Right. Our collective views of a person's authority is their authority. So I don't know what type of evil you could unleash into the world. But blood is basically spiritual. spiritual gold, right? If you had a currency, if there was a monetary unit that that world ran on,
Starting point is 03:34:09 or at least they ran on, it would be blood. So I don't know, like I said, the type of evil that you could unleash into the world by butchering a king and his queen and his children. and draining them of that blood. But I could imagine you could do a fucking lot. I don't know exactly how much blood it takes to release Satan. I was too I never asked. But I bet you there is enough there. And Dr. Raphael Johnson said that there were things written on the wall in blood. Am I correct?
Starting point is 03:35:00 Yes. Do you remember what they were? I don't. I don't. They were sigils. They were calling collect. Every demon's got a phone number, so to speak. So does every angel.
Starting point is 03:35:29 But yeah, the fact that the most noble blood left in Christendom was ritualistically drained and used in a sacrifice, in a dark, dirty basement covered with bloody sigils on the wall. And the birth of a ideology that would become a human meat grinder, into which millions upon millions, hundreds of millions of souls were fed into, and even the souls that weren't fed into the meat grinder physically, billions more would be deracinated and stripped of their Christianity
Starting point is 03:36:33 and their faith over the period of the next 60 to 100 years all from that moment I think is too much of a coincidence to overlook I don't know how you'd release the devil out of his tomb but I'd imagine it'd look something like that yeah and if blood is
Starting point is 03:37:06 power, if blood does exactly what you're describing, orchestrating the death of 60 million over a five to six year period, what can that unleash upon the world?
Starting point is 03:37:31 You're feeding something, right? Like you're making a deal with something. There's a, I know we talked about in the previous episode, consciousness, collective human consciousness's ability to influence and shape reality. But that's only certain groups of people.
Starting point is 03:38:07 Other groups of people don't have that. And most all of them don't know that they don't have it, except for one particular group. And that one particular group, at least the... Um, their magi class. I don't want to call them, you know, spiritual leaders because what they're doing is magic. It's not any type of spiritual vocation whatsoever. I mean, I can pick up a Kabbalah. I can pick up a Zohar and I can read you exactly where it comes from. And it was their passages. I don't know if I did this. in the first episode, did I? Where the Kabbalah actually comes from what it is? I mean, I can tell you right now. Well, I mean, oh, where it comes from and what it is?
Starting point is 03:39:20 I mean, I pulled up Shah Hoc's book, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, where he describes exactly what it is. But, yeah, I mean, I don't remember if you told, if you mentioned where the Kabbala came from. So go right ahead. Pull up the book. It's probably the most well documented so far. But the Kabbalah is basically ripped a whole hog
Starting point is 03:39:56 out of what's called the Greco-Egyptian magical papyri. It is a series of magical texts about 2,000 years old and written in blood. you notice that a lot by the way kind of a it kind of keeps coming up right Hollywood even tells you Hollywood even shares it with you is they don't have to that's what some people think oh if they have to share that no they don't have to they're bragging they're telling you in tales they're telling you in fiction much the way um certain writers that I've been reading lately have written books telling you how to do things like, oh, overthrow governments and things like that. It's funny.
Starting point is 03:40:52 People should, I've, I've gone back to starting to examine more fiction lately. Because there's a lot there that certain people will know they can't come out and tell you exactly what it is, but they can tell you exactly what you need to do to do a certain thing, but they will, They'll show you how to do it through fiction. That is very funny. So here we have, I should have bookmark these. Something I learned about, something I thought about too after we finished the last episode where towards the end we were talking about the rosary.
Starting point is 03:41:46 Yes. Notice how Hollywood has portrayed the rosary for the last 60 or 70 years. When you see someone praying the rosary in Hollywood, who's praying, in a Hollywood movie, who's doing it? Nuns. Or little old ladies. Yes. We could be, the fragile. I never actually thought about that.
Starting point is 03:42:20 Why? Because they want that association. They want that association with, oh, that's something that your crazy Catholic aunt does. That's not something that a man would do. What use would a man have for that? It's a way to discredit it without really people knowing that it's being discredited,
Starting point is 03:42:47 realizing that. Yeah, it makes you not. want to pick one up. Why would they want to do that? Maybe there's power in it. Yeah. I mean, Padre Pio seems to think it was a weapon. I was about to ask.
Starting point is 03:43:10 Yeah. Yeah. And what's that, how does that group go? He just says, he just bring me my weapon. Yeah, he, he needs it at a certain,
Starting point is 03:43:22 he needs it at certain times. And when you go back through history, you will see, when men, when Christians are in war, especially in the last five, six hundred years, there are priests, there are men praying the rosary. And the amount of times you will see you can read accounts of the battle being won by a small group over a larger army
Starting point is 03:43:50 while the rosary is being prayed for them. And then you'll read other accounts where the same army that's not happening and they get defeated. It's rather interesting. Padre Pia is one of the most well-documented mystics in modern times. Like scientific journals of all different types, traveled around to him and documented his ability to levitate, bi-locate, as an appear-in-two-place.
Starting point is 03:44:32 simultaneously funny that be able to move things through prayer and I mean where is where is my let's see if I can pull it up and and let's remind people Padre Pio didn't live in the 13th and 14th century no he lived in the 20th century he lived in Mussolini's Italy Yes, he did. Yes, he did. So there is, what I mean documentation. I'm not joking. I mean the type of documentation that you would find in pretty much any type of scientific inquiry in the 30s and 20s. Like these aren't stupid people. In fact, they were probably even more skeptical, more atheistic than they are now. Something very powerful happens when you throw in tension behind the name of God. Matthew book 21 verses 19 to 21. And he noticed a fig tree beside the road.
Starting point is 03:45:57 And he went over to see if there was any figs. But there was only leaves. When he said to the fig tree, may you never bear fruit again. immediately the fig tree dried and withered up. When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. How did the fig tree wither and die so quickly, they asked? To which Jesus replied, truly, I tell you, if you have faith and you do not doubt,
Starting point is 03:46:31 not only can you do what was done to this fig tree, but you can also say, this mountain. Go throw yourself into the sea, and it will be done. John 14. 12 through 14, truly, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to my father. And I will do what you ask, in my name so that my father may be glorified in the sun if you ask for me anything in my name i will do it and that's exactly what padre pio was doing he would tell you that he was not doing anything seven matthew seventeen twenty because you have so little faith he answered for truly i tell of you if you have faith the size
Starting point is 03:47:53 of the size of a mustard seed you can say to this mountain move from here to there and it will move nothing will be impossible for you so that brings me to a good point I hate to let that one not set but in those consciousness experiments because right now it probably all sounds like a dualistic mess You know, evil, the same as good, just different. It's not the case at all. There is a clearly defined, testable, I mean, like scientifically testable, imperative to the universe, to whatever it is that God is built. I don't think that I know or will ever know.
Starting point is 03:49:11 what exactly the universe is. But we are able to extract some rule sets out of it. So in those quantum randomness generator experiments, where the fluctuation of quantum particles were able to go in one direction or the other like bending physics, they also did similar experiments. And you have to control for a lot. So you have to do these experiments a lot of times.
Starting point is 03:49:51 It's the only way you can tease out the trends. So I'm going to use this. I'm going to fudge the numbers a little bit just to make it easier to tell. All right. Or else we're going to get into decimal place. and just numbers I won't be able to recall off the top of my head. Right. Let's say if you prayed for a month straight for $100,000 to come and find its way to your mailbox for whatever reason,
Starting point is 03:50:38 it won't be a zero chance. You will have made some impact. All right. So we'll just say it is N. value, whether it's 2% or 1%, it is a measurable impact. Right. But let's say that your neighbor was, your neighbor had cancer and her chemotherapy was costing so much money she was going to lose her house and be homeless.
Starting point is 03:51:23 and the remainder on her mortgage was $100,000. So let's just say that for the next month, you prayed every day for $100,000 to not show up in your mailbox, but to show up in the mailbox next door. And what do you think the chances of that would be? N, n plus, you know, 2, n plus 5? No, no, it's not. It's N times 12.4 something, something.
Starting point is 03:52:26 So when prayer is directed for the benefit of others with no benefit whatsoever to you, the person praying. For some reason, we do not know why the reason is, but no matter where you do similar studies wherever in the world, I think this has been replicated three times. So twice in the U.S. and once in Europe. So I can't say it works everywhere in the world. We haven't done it everywhere in the world yet. But what I can say is that for some reason, when conscious intention is put towards the selfless benefit of others, somehow the architecture, the structure of the structure of the universe we live in makes that more than 10 times more efficacious. So when you're praying for something other than yourself, for some reason it's 10 times
Starting point is 03:54:05 as powerful, more. And this is measurable. These are not just nonsense numbers. You can derive the chances, just like the lottery tickets. you can derive through rather complex but doable mathematics, the chances of anybody walking into a gas station at any moment in time and pulling a one in a trillion number. It's doable math.
Starting point is 03:54:37 So when there are fluctuations in those, it takes a bit of math, but it's easy to see. And the only thing you need to do is replicate. And after you've replicated a hundred times, a thousand times. Right. Each time you're becoming more and more and more sure that what you're seeing is signal and not noise. Right.
Starting point is 03:55:07 You're replicating to remove randomness. And then the outcomes are statistically undeniable. You have to admit that something is happening. you may not know what it is or why, but it seems that there is a trade wind in our universe. And it blows in only one direction. So you can blow against, you can try and sail against the wind,
Starting point is 03:55:40 and maybe you'll move a couple inches. But you flow with the wind at your back, and you'll move a couple miles. So there is a moral imperative, built into the very fabric of our reality. And what is our reality? Our reality is Logos. What is Logos?
Starting point is 03:56:06 Logos is God. There is no place in the universe. I can go where he is not. I can't go outside of the universe. So no matter where or how far I go, whether up or down or left or right, whether or forward in time or back in time, there's no point where he is not there because he physically is the ocean we all swim in. So when I say that there is a moral imperative to the universe, an easier way of saying that would be God is good. You do not live in a dualistic universe.
Starting point is 03:57:00 Evil is not the same as good. In fact, evil is much weaker than good. So the battle lines are pretty clearly drawn. And that's why a bunch of retorts. Which is why evil thrives off of the weak. And not the strong. Because there's so much more of them. There's so much more of them. And that's why a hundred,
Starting point is 03:57:37 a thousand anonymous retards on Twitter can change the course of, of the most powerful nation in the world, and thus change the direction of the world, because good is orders of magnitude more powerful. Truth is orders of magnitude more powerful. And when it's selfless, which is what I kind of think anonymous posting is, isn't it?
Starting point is 03:58:19 Right? When I see somebody steal my ideas, I can't get angry. I've already made that deal, right? I will get zero credit for this. Then why are you doing it? Because it's the right thing to do. It's only downside, really. What is the upside for somebody speaking out against the regime?
Starting point is 03:58:42 What is the upside for any of the things that we're doing now? I'd love for somebody to lay it out for me. Because from where I'm sitting, it's only professional risk, career risk, financial risk, social risk, familial risk. I would love for somebody to please tell me where the upside is in doing any of this. I haven't been able to find any. So then why do it?
Starting point is 03:59:17 Oh, and you'll get no credit for it. You know, when you talk about intention, the evil spirits have done a really good job of making that a bad word with the health and wealth preachers. Oh, God. And, you know, the, I forget what that, that course was that was popular in the 2000. It may as well be called the Satan. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:59:58 They've done a really good job of making it sound really, associating it with people who are evil and who are full of pride and full of greed and full of you and have no who know that what they're telling people what they're teaching people is not going to help them it's only it's not going to help their people it's only going to help them so you know even using a term like intention has had to be attacked and had to be denigrated because of the power that it actually has. Grant Cardone is a demon. He's a monster. That's what Grant Cardone is. The author of The Secret is a monster. He's literally inviting demonic possession into each and every person that reads that book.
Starting point is 04:01:07 right you're going to show them a door but not tell them what's inside you're going to have them sign on a dotted line when they have no idea what they're signing for you're evil you're a monster and grant cardin knows a bit of knows everything that i know i'm sure if not more i'm sure his library would be really fucking interesting to take a walk through and watch he's going to when he goes it's going to be messy and it's going to be he's not going to go nicely that's the unifying thing
Starting point is 04:01:54 that you see in all of them that use this for their own self-benefit in their own name I guess would be a way to put it who was somebody who pushed all of that who was somebody who had the Cardones of the world
Starting point is 04:02:14 and all of these intentioned people all of this on their show. And then it comes out that they hang out with Harvey Weinstein and hang out with Diddy and hang out with, what the hell was that guy's name was running the pedophile ring? It was a white guy, something God or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, John of God. Yeah, John of God.
Starting point is 04:02:39 Baby Farm, John of God. Oprah Winfrey? Who pushed all of this stuff? and then has associations. I mean, there's a picture of her which just basically looks like her handing off a young girl to Harvey Weinstein. I think we should take a look at St. Simon of Trent.
Starting point is 04:03:08 Go ahead. Everybody should familiarize themselves with St. Simon of Trent. If you think I'm lying or you think Pete is being hyperbolic, you tell me like demons don't exist. well what's his name
Starting point is 04:03:26 that did Passover's of blood uh Tooff Tooff Tooff Oriel Tooff Yeah Ariel Tooff Yeah the son of a
Starting point is 04:03:38 Was the son of a Habad rabbi maybe I know his dad was a rabbi Yeah I want to It would be very interesting To maybe one day do a conversation between myself and and hunger the die merchant
Starting point is 04:03:59 because it accidentally happened in a space where he was describing to me these strange rituals that he witnessed when he spent time in Israel. Ariel Tooff basically translated. Ariel Tooff is the son of Eliottooff, the former chief rabbi of Rome.
Starting point is 04:04:25 Oh, so nobody. A loser. And wasn't he, before he published a celebrated historian before he became public enemy number one? He was professor of medieval in Renaissance history at Barilin University in Israel. He came to prominence for his book Passover of Blood
Starting point is 04:04:53 and it was criticized and Tooff wrote, but was unrelated, what happened to him? Let's see. Second book appeared, and afterward Tooff responds to the critics. He said that the possibility exists that certain criminal acts disguised as crude rituals were indeed committed by extremist groups who are individuals demented by religious mania
Starting point is 04:05:23 and blinded by desire for revenge against those. Yeah, I mean, well, you mean like the Jews who started slaughtering Christians by the hundreds, which Kimmelnitsky had to put down in, what, 1648? Because they thought they had made it so that their Messiah was coming back, so they just decided to start killing everybody in the area. When was Simon of Trent 15 something?
Starting point is 04:05:53 Yeah, I'd have to, Simon of Trent is 1475. 1475. The Simon of Trent is a canonized saint who was a martyr, even though he was probably too young to know that he was being martyred at all. I mean, he was allegedly three years old. Yeah. luckily he was baptized or they might not have wanted him. So Simon of Trent was abducted.
Starting point is 04:06:30 He was stolen and was kidnapped. And he was taken away. And there's probably, I think there's four or five dozen well-documented cases in Ariel's Tov's book. But Simon of Trent was crucified upside down. and he was ritualistically the only thing I could describe it with is basically being poked with an ice pick
Starting point is 04:07:11 and drained of blood which was then both poured on the ground and drank by the participants of his ritual murder it was done on Passover some of the other murder
Starting point is 04:07:38 murders happen on similar dates, not Passover, but other religious festivals, religious festival days. And after Simon of Trent was drained of blood and messages were carved into his skin, he was thrown in a ditch about 15 miles away. And if it wasn't for the distinct characteristics of the child, he probably would. wouldn't have been recognized. Apparently, he had strikingly golden blonde hair. So, you know, baptisms were like a big thing. Then in medieval communities, right?
Starting point is 04:08:33 It's not like, you know, today if you get baptized, maybe your family and some family and friends would get together. The whole community would, you're basically, it's a celebration in these tiny medieval communities, right? Every birth is a celebration. Every marriage is a celebration for the whole community because it is. And every death was mourned by the community. So everyone was there for Simon of Trent's baptism.
Starting point is 04:09:10 Everybody there knew what Simon of Trent looked like, even the passing merchant that saw him in the ditch and got the authorities. When Simon of, when Simon of Trent was taken someone smart enough had a young girl follow the people that took him to the house
Starting point is 04:09:46 that he was ritualistically murdered in and when it was announced a couple days later that they found the body the young girl told the Lord and I believe at this point in time, investigators got sent from Rome,
Starting point is 04:10:15 and the perpetrators were found literally with the room and the upside-down crucifix covered in blood and the utensil. I mean, it's the most fucking open and shutcase in the world.
Starting point is 04:10:34 And you could say, oh, maybe they were railroaded, really? I believe Simon of Trent is... And two or three others are some of the most well-documented medieval legal cases that came out of medieval Europe. So there is a faction of people, if you can call them people, remember, people don't value blood. Spirits do. Blood is the life that they don't have. So I don't know anybody that has a hankering. for blood to the point where they need to ritualistically murder children and drain it from them.
Starting point is 04:11:34 I've never meant anybody like that. But apparently they exist because we keep on seeing it everywhere, except in non-Christian parts of the world. Then we don't see it. It's only in Christian parts of the world that are cohabitated by a specific group of people with a subsection of them with very, very strange religious beliefs. And they document them profusely in their texts. And there's very little difference in what they are saying
Starting point is 04:12:24 than what Lex Wexner said to the New York Times. Except Lex Wexner left out what he feeds. that little demon that lives inside of him. I believe you and Daryl Cooper did an episode on not just Jeffrey Epstein, but John Podesta and his brother. That was the first time I ever interviewed Daryl. We talked about how ridiculousness of something called Pizza Gate or anything surrounding it. Absolute. absolute conspiracy theory nonsense.
Starting point is 04:13:17 Just insane. And you would have to be insane to believe such a thing. But the one thing Darrell was having trouble understanding was why they do what they do to kids. Why kids? Why not teenagers? Why not?
Starting point is 04:13:50 age folks. It's not just the destruction of innocence because a person will never be closer to God than he is when he is firstborn. There is no opinions, thoughts, opinions of others that just lumped together like a pile of trash and form something called the ego, right, that someone's conceptualization of themselves, right? A person's personality,
Starting point is 04:14:43 or a person's idea of themselves. An infant is just pure awareness, just experiencing, world. Has no thoughts, no preconceptions, loves every face equally. An infant is the closest to God you will ever find on this earth, which another thing that happens. This part's kind of gross, and I don't like saying it, but it should be said to understand a lot. And you can take the most materialistic point of view, and this will still disturb you. Or you can take my point of view and not only will it disturb you, but you'll be able to explain a lot of shit. So when a
Starting point is 04:15:51 child before the age is where they hit puberty, right, before their hormones start to kick in, the level of neuroplasticity is, unlike any other time in life. But something very strange happens when you sexually abuse a child before the age of puberty. There's literally infinity scientific papers that you can peruse at your leisure about this. But it takes the neural pathways in the brain and it bifurcates them. it snaps them in half. If you imagine your brain is an antenna that's a wafer, right?
Starting point is 04:16:46 It snaps it in half. And another way of putting that would be like, let's say you have this beautiful house, and I cut it down the middle, and I put a for-rent sign on the other half. I've turned your lovely home into a duplex. And the reason why these sick motherfuckers, these vessels, do it ritualistically, which you and Daryl outline to a point where it's really indisputable that it is being done ritualistically. You do that so you can kind of time the open houses and pick who moves in. and you get to pick your neighbors. And if you look at things like, let's say,
Starting point is 04:18:11 homosexuality or transgenderism, and not just the desire that they all have to replicate themselves by sexually assaulting children before the ages of puberty, but you will find they themselves were sexually assaulted before the age of puberty. So all their little houses got chopped into duplexes,
Starting point is 04:18:40 and somebody else moved in. And you can actually do a line, you can overlap the charts, and you'll basically get one line, and not really, but nearest makes no difference, yes. The rates of sexual assault, early childhood sexual assault, The rates of that, which are drastically increasing, and the rates of disassociative identity disorder, D.I.D., also known as multiple personality disorder.
Starting point is 04:19:17 So you can take the entirely materialistic point of view and say, okay, well, in doing what they're doing to children, they are causing multiple personalities to have. And I could say, okay, well, where do that other personality come from? And you'll have a really shitty answer for me. All right. But I could take a person with this associative identity disorder that has one of, they've done this several times, where one of their identities is blind. And they will stick that person in a cat scan tube. tube, and they will see that the areas of the brain, that process vision, go dark,
Starting point is 04:20:14 which is impossible for a human being to do, personalities, or otherwise. You're seeing physiological changes in the human brain. So I guess that means it's a lot more than a fucking personality, isn't it? It's not a funny accent that they put on. So my explanation is able to explain a lot more things. But you have to make one assumption for it to explain all those things. And that is not only does evil exist, not only does Satan exist, not only the demons exist, but they're in your world here and now around you.
Starting point is 04:21:31 you may pass one on the street. One may be sworn into office for your state, county, or city. One may preside a satanic mass in the highest church in the nation. It would explain a lot more things. It would also explain, to bring it back to the original, a whole bunch of individual actors, individual people, in a completely uncoordinated fashion,
Starting point is 04:22:29 with no communication between each other, you know, carrying out discrete individual actions, accidentally creating this much larger thing, almost as if they are in constant coordination with each of, other, even though we know that they are not. Uncoordinated people are acting in a coordinated fashion. How does one explain such a thing? I haven't heard a good one. That's not the one I'm giving you now. So the thing about winning a fight is first recognizing that you're fucking in one. And no matter how much you don't want to be in a fight, how much that scares you,
Starting point is 04:23:37 and it fucking well should because now you know that there are stakes in a fight there are stakes if you lose it could be the hospital it could be broken bones lost teeth or in war it could be dead
Starting point is 04:24:02 or it could be the loss of your immortal soul every fight has stakes and whether you want to be in a fight you want to be in a fight or not, the other person gets to decide whether you're in a fight or not. Your only choice is what did you do next. Go ahead.
Starting point is 04:24:28 Yeah, and I was going to say it's hard for people to, if people can't recognize that they're in a fight, I mean, we're in a war. If there are people out there who don't recognize we're in a war, they're not going to recognize a fight. fight. Yeah. They think this is just politics.
Starting point is 04:24:51 I'm sorry. Find me a previous example of politics that involved castrating children. Find me a previous type of politics that burnt down churches. And the rival political faction rallied and just like literally celebrates themselves desecrating images of Christ or wearing t-shirts that say how great Satan is. Find me a political theorist that will explain this to me. I'll wait. Like where?
Starting point is 04:25:44 Oh, they're just confused. It's just the left, bro. They don't know any better. If we give them information, right? Or they just don't know the outcomes of their decisions. They're stupid. I hate the term Libtard. I hate it.
Starting point is 04:26:06 These people aren't stupid. They're not retarded. I mean, Janet Yellen isn't retarded. She's a very smart lady. All of her actions seem retarded to you because you think her job is to manage the economy correctly. And oh, she's just so dumb.
Starting point is 04:26:36 She keeps fumbling the balls. It's just butterfell. fingers. She's just so doofy. Or maybe you don't actually know what her job is. Oh, all these trans people seem to have a real problem with Christ. That's weird. They're probably just stupid. They're probably just confused. Oh, they're going to erect statues of Satan in capital buildings. They're so silly. It's so dumb. Oh, Satanism is so cringe. Oh, it's so gay. Oh, look.
Starting point is 04:27:26 The FBI is throwing women who pray silently outside of abortion clinics in prison for nine years. Oh, the left really just, they have no breaks, bro. The left is just insane. They're so stupid No
Starting point is 04:27:54 Traditional Catholics Right Going to Latin Mass Are at the top Of the FBI's list Oh they're so stupid Oh they just hate America No
Starting point is 04:28:24 The Stone Choir guys had the FBI Come after them Come and interview people around them. Traditional Catholic, Latin mass Catholics, are having the FBI spy on them. What is the political utility of any of this? Where is it in Schmidt or where is it in Leviathan or the Machiavellians? Where does it talk about tearing down God? Where is that in politics? They're not lib-tards. They're not stupid.
Starting point is 04:29:27 They're vessels for something much smarter and much older than you. And you need to give it the respect that it deserves because it was here long before you and it will be here long after you. And its only job is to hate you. That's it. It's all it does. It's what they all do. is to hate you and lie to you.
Starting point is 04:30:11 You could look at that book, what is it, the authoritarian personality. I can hold that book up. And I could like, I'm sure there's countless church fathers that have written what a healthy Christian society looks like, what a godly society looks like. And I would imagine that that book, the authoritarian personality picks apart each and everything.
Starting point is 04:30:45 I bet they don't miss a single thing that any of the church fathers said about what God wants a Christian society to look like. I will say one thing about the Stone Choir Boys. I think they hit it on the nose with why the regime hates white people.
Starting point is 04:31:07 because that's really the only thing is why white people. And their analysis of the IQ question and the time preference and moral continuity, there is only one race that has been able to propagate Christianity, not just preserve it, but also propagate it. The 80-IQ African, no offense. Africans. But, you know, those are the breaks. Within a generation or two generations, they revert back to their old thing or start merging the old thing in with the new thing. All of the people that were basically evangelized, all the people that, you know, all of the, um,
Starting point is 04:32:14 Wahakans that were carving people's heart out by the tens of things. thousands to one of their gods, which seemed to actually a funny thing about all these gods of all these peoples that we came across before Christianity. It seems that the center point of all of their religious interactions involved blood. So knowing that blood is the spiritual currency, it makes you think a little bit differently about the blood of Christ. and let's say how powerful it was enough to literally forgive the sins of countless millions of people.
Starting point is 04:33:23 It seems that all of these other people, the Mayans, the Incas, their gods were just hungry for blood. There's really only one people on the planet that have been able to propagate Christianity. So if you wanted to kill Christianity in a generation or two, you could just get rid of all the white people and then it's a fade of complete or you dilute them you mix them I don't know what it is but I think there's something more in the blood than just its spiritual currency
Starting point is 04:34:09 I've been really into DNA computing everyone should look it up it sounds insane it is insane to find out that your DNA one strand of your DNA has more computing horsepower, more memory storage capacity than our biggest supercomputer. Maybe there's a little bit more going on in our blood than we think.
Starting point is 04:34:50 I don't know what it is, but it seems that demons want it, and demon-possessed vessels want to destroy it. So I don't need to know what my enemy intends to do. I just need to know what he's doing in that knowing what he's doing, is going to be bad for me. Okay, so they hate Christ. They really dig Satan. They really like the castration, perversion, and bending of genders. Anybody that's even poked around at Satan at all will notice that he's a dude with tits. They seem to have a hankering for the blood. of unborn children, newly born children, prepubescent children, a desire to castrate and
Starting point is 04:36:14 invert those children, put satanic statues places, tear down churches, pervert, clergy's pervert the teachings I'm really fucking struggling to find a political utility in any of that shit but I know a whole bunch of people
Starting point is 04:36:48 on the timeline a whole bunch of people that say that they're on our team that will tell me that it's just political it's just politics they're just stupid they're libtarts they're dumb Yeah, the, um, when you go back, especially to, like, the Spanish Civil War, when you realize that they, the plan was to exterminate half of the Catholics in the country, they figured if they got rid of half, the other half would fall in line.
Starting point is 04:37:35 And you look at the way, you know, they did it throwing, throwing, putting the bodies in, putting the bodies in cemeteries, things like that. The disinterment of non-price of priests. Yeah, the disinterment of nuns and priests and just how bloodthirsty they were when it came to the clergy. And when Thomas pointed this out when we recorded talking about this, that in the span of the whole inquisition, which lasted probably, let's call it,
Starting point is 04:38:18 350 years, so 320 years, roughly. Probably best estimates, 3,000 people were found guilty and put to death. Not only of being heretics, that was really in the beginning, it just became a court after a while. double that were executed in the first six months of the Spanish Civil War
Starting point is 04:38:50 double that and you're less than, what is that, 10 a year? Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. 300 years? Yeah, but bloodthirsty, you know, bloodthirsty. But then you look at the Spanish Civil War and killing double that in the first six months from June 36 to December 36 and the amount of churches that had to be burned, seminaries that had to be burned,
Starting point is 04:39:27 all of these things that needed to be dealt with. Well, why? Why? Because you can just, you can defeat a people. and get them to fall online. You can take over a government and pretty much people will bend to your will.
Starting point is 04:39:57 Unfortunately, even some very... People who consider themselves be very pious. You will see them bending to the will of the zeitgeist. Why did this have to happen? Why did it have to happen that way?
Starting point is 04:40:15 And you look at the people who were doing it, and they were all acting as one. I mean, all of them, there was, there was very little dissent. Once you start really reading it, there was very little dissent in the ranks. And you can actually, you can actually name a couple people, two or three people on that side who spoke out against it. But the fact that you can name two or three people on that side shows you how little, how few people spoke out against it it was just part of what needed
Starting point is 04:40:54 to be done in order to bring in the new world that they wanted so there is a bunch of I can't remember if it was the previous owner of Mystery Grove or whatever I can't remember where I got to hear these
Starting point is 04:41:22 but somebody had gotten a hold of, not just journals, diaries of the white Russians, but also some of the unaligned populations who were basically forced to garrison troops of either side. because, you know, some of these towns would fall into the hands of the Reds one month, and then they'd be liberated the next month, only to be pushed back again. So a lot of the common people got to see, you know, basically both sides, both types of people. in the way that which they describe the Reds and not just the Reds, right?
Starting point is 04:42:25 So some of the, they describe it as like a demonic fever took over all of Russia because it's not, it wasn't just the Reds, but it would be like just common bands of criminals or people would become criminals. and they like neighbors would become just as horrible as the red guard I mean the people that have lived together for their entire lives peaceably like they described it like a mania happen to the balkan wars in the 1990s as well yeah neighbors I mean like because like in check That's what happened, right?
Starting point is 04:43:32 But they were like pogroming the Russian population there. Yeah, in Russia, yeah. But just specifically over the period of the revolution, these guys describe a madness that had taken over everybody, even the unaligned people. Right? Like something of a fucking movie, man. It is really chilling to read.
Starting point is 04:44:00 and then you find out what was happening in the Romanian prisons and how similar stuff was being rolled out on the ground in Spain. Daryl Cooper's stuff can be a bit much. And I mean that in the best way possible, as in like you'll get more detail than you want. But I urge everybody to listen to as much as they can stomach his series called the anti-humans and what was happening in the prisons.
Starting point is 04:44:44 I'm glad you qualified that with as much as you can stomach because I couldn't make it through it. Yeah, it's hard for good people to it's going to be hard for good people to deal with that. Don't listen to it with your kids anywhere in earshot or your wife.
Starting point is 04:45:05 Certain women are more vulnerable than we are. Like thoughts aren't just thoughts. And hearing, if you can make it two hours into that, I think I made it, if you make it three hours into that, you're a stronger man than I am. I couldn't, I tapped out. It is impossible to listen to what he recounts and continue to believe that you are in a political fight. And there's a reason why they want you to believe you're in a political fight. And this is why anybody that thinks that they're in a political fight tells other people that they're in a political fight.
Starting point is 04:46:03 Like first off, in the first episode, you and I did, Pete. I think we pretty much put a nail in the coffin of materialism. But yet there are materialists among us that think it's cool or that, I mean, deep down, inside, they're just resentful, right? They're just, maybe their dad was a pastor or whatever. Because it really doesn't make any sense at this point. If you're in this far in the game, and I mean, this is coming off the back of a Trump victory. I should sound more ecstatic. But I'm not, because I know this is when people are going to be laziest. And that terrifies me. people are going to think that we won.
Starting point is 04:46:54 In what world would you ever think that you defeated the fucking Antichrist by electing a president, by voting? In what world could you be so naive to think that the fight's over? Or the left is done, bro. They're demoralized. They're finished. It's not the left. You're not fighting a political fight.
Starting point is 04:47:25 And the risks of you losing aren't political. political. They're unfortunately eternal. And the reason why they work so hard, because if they were to just if they were to just do what they do and they didn't say fuck all, right? Like if all of a sudden they started burning down churches, erecting altars to the devil, to wearing, you know, Satan rules, t-shirts, whatever. And they were castrating kids. And they just didn't say fucking anything at all. And they just did it.
Starting point is 04:48:15 We would be fucking burning them at the stake. It would be the most evil thing we've ever seen. But since they couch it in a politics, in a fake politics, it if you accept the enemy's framing you've already lost there is a reason that this is being framed for you politically if you are to remove that framing you see this much more clearly right the political framing is there for their benefit and your detriment it hides what's actually happening. And it makes you
Starting point is 04:49:10 miss the way to actually fight it. It's deliberate. Right? If they frame it politically, the only actions that you will take and the only weapons
Starting point is 04:49:26 you think are available to you are political ones. Right? You've effectively stood on the big X painted on the floor for you. Idiot. if you know that everything they do and that the core of it is lies and lying to you, you have to discard everything in its entirety and work from your own first principles,
Starting point is 04:49:59 chief among them that this fight is political because it's not. Well, what happens if, you know, we're talking up political Ws, why would we not want to continue going the direction we're going? because it stops you from getting to the only place that these things actually fear. Right? The only thing that, the only man that the regime that Satan actually fears, if I were to sum it up in an archetype, it's not a warrior and it's not a mystic. It's the combination of the two.
Starting point is 04:50:50 Which is why I think that you can bribe, and I don't mean to use the word literally, but you can bribe a warrior with glory, honors, and prestige. You can pressure, silence, torture, subjugate a priest, a mystic. You can't fight back. But what do the two have in common, the warrior and the mystic? They both greet death as a friend, as in they are not scared of dying. They are not scared about the only weapon that the regime has against you, which is either to make your life miserable or to end it.
Starting point is 04:52:08 And the mystic and the warrior have completely different reasons for why they act the way they do. The warrior guy is not scared of dying because people die around him all the time. The mystic or the priest doesn't care about dying because he knows that this is like a short pit stop on a much longer journey and this is probably the grossest town he has to stop in
Starting point is 04:52:39 and it's all downhill or it's all uphill from there. If they can't bribe you, they can't threaten you with making your life worse or killing you or those close to you. You become invincible because really all that they have is the fear of those things and maybe in certain small instances metering them out.
Starting point is 04:53:17 But this is why, I think this is why the Spanish Civil War went the way it did, because really on the ground, if you were to just do it by the math, Franco should have his teeth kicked in. But if you listen to some of those accounts, like the men in the Castillo, I can't, I always pronounce that. incorrectly. How's the car?
Starting point is 04:53:47 There we go. All those guys, none of them cared about living, and I'm sure a lot of them knew that they weren't gonna. And you see this time and time again. Because once you take that away, it seems the most unlikely of things happen. Because if you are not scared of dying, we're scared of the bad things that can happen to you. You are either A, an insane person, which is possible, there's plenty of them among us, or you have faith. And what did Jesus tell us about having faith? And what would happen to are actions if we do things with the faith, the size of a P?
Starting point is 04:55:03 We can command mountains to move, and they will move. And that's why I think when you see situations like those men, if they knew that they were going to die and that it was basically for them a fate of complete, the only way that they would continue fighting and not run away is if they have faith. Unless we can summon that level of faith, I think we lose. Even though we may win the short-term political battle,
Starting point is 04:55:44 it's only four years. it's not really much in comparison to millennium or even a hundred years look what look what they've done in a hundred years right everybody talks about like oh the rights winning the rights winning is it is it have we made a hundred years of straight ws i don't think we have but they have it's been a hundred years of w's and we're winning for two days and now we're winning we've won We've beaten them. They're demoralized. They're finished.
Starting point is 04:56:31 They waited Franco out. And now his body gets torn out of the ground. And Neres makes no difference tossed in a ditch. So, I mean... I think that's... I know. I think we should be happy, but we're fighting the wrong way. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:57:01 That's where we end it. That's where we end it. Right there. The reality. The reality that Franco is not in his grave anymore. He's not in the, what is it, the Heroes thing? Oh, and I per, I'm fading fast. I said Al-Zakar.
Starting point is 04:57:22 It's Al-Qasar. It's Al-Qasar. But where Franco was buried and where they disinterred him from, was the field. I want to say it was the, But he won, he's now in, yeah, he's now in El Fargo,
Starting point is 04:57:50 in the, he was in the valley of the fallen. And they, I think they moved, um, Primo de Rivera's body as well out of there. So. Yeah,
Starting point is 04:58:07 but they won, bro. Yeah. You can't stop fighting these people. It's not, they won politically and they won militarily, but did they win? The way we win is by changing ourselves. That's it.
Starting point is 04:58:37 That's where we end this. All right, man. It's been a pleasure. Yeah. Yeah, as always, until the next time, let's see where the conversation takes us next time. It may not even be on this. You may have to come back to this at a later date.
Starting point is 04:58:58 Maybe we need something new to talk about and then come back to this. I think there's going to be something There's going to be something Whatever it is It's accelerating Have a good night man All right take care
Starting point is 04:59:14 Bye You good

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