The Pete Quiñones Show - *Special Report* Trump/Vance/Zelenskyy Showdown w/ Bird from Timeline Earth

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

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Find out more at airgrid. dot ae. forward slash northwest. Don't talk about that bird. How you doing, man? Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm doing very well.

I'm glad to be alive. I don't know if you heard. Oh, what did you get AIDS? No. I haven't gotten AIDS yet. Though I do live in Miami.

I totaled my car. do you want to know how please yeah i mean i assume it's going back and forth to the res i hit yes i hit an 11 foot long alligator probably 700 pounds alligator in my humble 22 hrv and it uh i don't i i i'm we're still not sure to this to this day if it went under the car or if it was so heavy that we just hit it and it just stayed in front of the car. And so my car is completely totaled. But I'm happy to be alive. I say skeptically.

How's the alligator doing? He walked away. Unbelievable, huh? They really are dinosaurs. Yeah, that's, I was telling a couple of people, yes, just last night about the same story. And all of them were like, did you keep the alligator? People, I don't, people do not.

have a concept of how powerful an 11-foot-long 700-pound alligator is. You wouldn't, there's nothing like it on the American continent. Yeah. That's quite the story. Well, at least you're okay. You know, that's good. Glad to be all right. Your better half was with you.

Yes, we're all good. You know, and that alligator really spared us because I hit it. on a curve, so I didn't know it was coming. I hit it dead on because at that point you just have to decide, am I going to plow into this thing or careen off into, you know, the canal? And I chose to just hit the thing. And when I did it, I've never been in an accident where the airbags deployed before. This is important for anybody listening who has not, so that you don't experience the same thing that I did. When the airbags go off, it's like a black powder charge or something that puffs them out. And so we hit the thing and immediately there's black smoke everywhere

and the smell of fire. And I'm thinking my engine was on fire. So me and my lady hop out of the vehicle while the thing is still right there, like not realizing. And I turn around and he's walking away with that classic alligator grin on his face. It's probably four feet away for me. His head was probably four feet away for me, walking away. So do not, if you hit something, your engine might not be on fire. So do not jump out in case you are also confronted by a nearly 12 foot long alligator. I was lucky to be spared. I've been that close to an alligator, and it is in the wild, and it is quite an experience.

You don't realize how quickly your heart rate can go up 50 beats a minute. one time I had I was hiking in the Everglades and you're walking for a while and there's a particular noise that if you are a hiker in Florida you never want to hear it's a low gulping noise. I'm not going to do an impression of it here, but I've learned how to do one. This is the sound of a baby alligator croaking. Um, so me and my lady are hiking and you hear this sound. It's a gentle little croak. But it's one of those things. where I imagine like if you're in California and you start to feel that ground shake, you look at one another and go, we got to find cover. When you hear that croak,

you got to run because right behind that croak is going to be an eight foot long, angry mom, and you're in her house, and you got to run. They have to be some of the most awe-striking and terrifying animals on Earth. Yeah, and they're deceptively fast. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

All right. I have America's number one newsman on the on the show. I don't have any music queued up, but what do you got for me, bud? Well, it was a good week to be called on. A lot happened. I thought nothing ever happens. Well, so this is the struggle that I've been dealing with. Thank you for bringing that up.

The struggle that I've been dealing with is that now so much is happening every day. that I am suffering from the weave. I can't hold on to anything. My zone is totally flooded. Every single day, I wake up, and the first thing I do is I'll scroll through X. I'll check my numbers, my follow count, and then I'll look on my timeline, and it's like, Donald Trump kicked Vladimir Zelensky right in the balls, and everybody's talking about that. and people on their left are going, how could he do this?

And people of the right are going, why didn't he do this sooner? And then you turn over, and Christopher Rufo is reporting that furries have taken over the NSA. And then you turn again, and it's just a dizzying spell of different things that are going on right now. We have the most relevant news. I assume this is live right now, so I'm sure that as people are tuning into this, You've already seen the clip, but we might as well get to the opener here is pull up the clip of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, meeting Vladimir Zelensky in the Oval Office. This is a seven or so minute-long clip of their meeting. And from what we are getting now live as we're talking is this ended in total disaster for Zelensky. I have seen reports that already at least one reconstruction deal for the energy grid in Ukraine has been pulled. Donald Trump has pulled a deal. So Zelensky's behavior has cost Ukraine a whole lot. And, you know, this is, I just want people, one thing I want to point out because I think, number one, it's true. Number two, I think it's an important narrative. J.D. Vance here is playing the tough guy. So it is what it is. It's very obvious that's what's happening. If you watch Donald Trump, he's directing the conversation with his eyes. This is a classic business meeting. I really want people to pay attention here to the compassion that Donald Trump has, because this is something that I have never seen in a previous administration. The compassion that Donald Trump displays with the tough love attitude, the current narrative is these guys hate Zelensky. I don't think it's a good

narrative. I also don't think it's true. I think Donald Trump is, it's clear from this, this treatment that we got. I've never seen anything like this kind of a debate in public. Donald Trump not only wants to end the war, but he is not moved by Zelensky or who Zelensky represents. And that is something that needs to be paid attention. This is a guy who's compassionate to end a war. And it is not clear to me that he gives any concern about the fact that Zelensky is basically an intelligence agent for Zionists. So it doesn't back down. J.D. is there pummeling him. He rudely interrupts J.D. about three words into the answer Jadie is giving to Zelensky's question. I really think this will be the

interview that is played back over and over again for years to come as the turn. of Zelensky being a hero to Zelensky being a villain is completed as part of this deal that's being worked out with Russia to replace him. If you remember, Zelensky already set this up when he said, I'm willing to step down for peace. So he already knows what's coming. Watch, either they're going to kill the guy or they're going to replace him with somebody who can get the deal done here. You might as well play it now. Well, I'll make people upset and hold it out a little bit longer. What do you say to people that this was all staged? Now, I could see that you have Vance there for a certain reason, because maybe Vance is going to, and maybe they're playing

good cop, bad cop, okay? But the people who are going to say, you know, this is scripted. Zelensky's an actor and he's reading from a script, and so is Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. I think it's like you, actually, you had tweeted this. I'll ape your line here. I think it's retarded. I think it's people who live in total fairyland. Nothing about this, nothing about what happened here needed to be scripted. Now, I think we can extend a benefit of the doubt maybe to the people who go, this was scripted, and I'll tell you why. Because Zelensky, everything that Zelensky said is the same line that I have heard every talking head, pro-Ukraine talking head use, over and over. It was the exact same conversation we've always heard, which goes, here's the problem,

here's my version of the history. So what do you say about Russia? J.D. doesn't even get three words into answering that question. And Zelensky goes, have you ever even been to Ukraine? Which is always the second question. Always the second question. And of course, he already knows the answer to it. J.D.'s never been there. So J.D. pivots again, and it turns into this mess. But both of them immediately realized what Zelensky was doing. So when people go, this is scripted, the only benefit of the doubt I can extend to that. Employers, rewarding your staff?

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is something that the entire previous administration ignored, didn't talk about. this is to call something like this scripted it becomes meaningless when there are new ideas being introduced into this and now there are deals that are being

cancelled because of it so you know when people say scripted they either mean they already knew what the outcome of this was going to be in which case it's an asinine points to make prove it or they mean it was scripted in the sense that they already know

the outcome and I think something that indicates that is JD's been tweeting for quite a while Russia's superior position in this war and a lot of the kickback that JD was getting from Hanania and others totally perplexing kickback was is this really a wise way to be speaking in the middle of a negotiation to which the obvious answer is

everybody at the negotiating table already knows the state of war and that was what JD basically responded directly to Hanania, he said, yes, I'm sure it was my tweet that made everybody realize what Russia's position was. So that, in combination with the arrogance of Zelensky, which is pointed out by Trump, what cards does Zelensky actually hold here? How dare he argue? So all of this gets developed and, you know, the person who's calling it scripted, this is the same kind of reaction that I also saw yesterday where libertarians were taking the victory last. And, you know, the person who's victory lap about the fact that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are just as corrupt as every other

prior person in their position, as if it has anything to do with it. It's just like victory lapping for hollow points. So I don't really have any time for it. To call it scripted sort of defeats the purpose of what scripted means. The last administration was scripted. That is nothing like this one. So that's what I would say fully to answer the question about what people who call it scripted mean to me. All right. Let's play this and let's see if it plays. I might have to share it from another source. Yep.

I saw that that it wasn't going to. So then I have at the ready another source. What a pro. Yeah, you know, I'm good like that. All right. Here we go. this thing over with you see the hatred he's got for Putin it's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate he's got tremendous hatred and i understand that but i can tell you the other side is exactly in love with you know him either uh so it's not a question of alignment

i have to i'm aligned with the world i want to get the thing set i'm aligned with europe i want to see if we can get this thing done you want me to be tough i could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen, I'd be so tough, but you're never going to get a deal that way. That's one of the ultimate Trumpisms right there. Yes. Yeah. Well, there's a few in this. Yeah.

It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Hey, guys. One more question. I would respond to this. So look, for four years of the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin. And then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country.

country, the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the President of the United States' words mattered more than the President of the United States' actions. What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy. That's what President Trump is doing. Can I ask you? Sure. Yeah?

Yeah. Okay. So he occupied it. occupied it our parts, big parts of Ukraine, part of East and Crimea. So he occupied it on 2014. So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump, and God bless,

now President Trump will stop him. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. him. He just occupied and took. He killed people. You know what the contact line? 2015. 2014. Yeah, yeah. So he killed... I was not here.

That's exactly right. Yes, but during 2014 until 2022, you know, the situation is the same. The people have been dying on the contact line. Nobody stopped him. You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversations, my bilateral conversation, and we have a little conversation. and we signed with him, me, like a new president in 2019, I signed with him the deal. I signed with him, Macron and Merkel, we signed ceasefire. CIS fire, all of them told me that he will never go. We signed him gas contract, gas contract.

Yes, but after that, he broken this ceasefire. He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. Just pause it for a second here. So, employers, did you know, you can now reward you and your staff, with up to 1,500 euro and gift cards annually, completely tax-free, and even better. You can spread it over five different occasions.

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you may know better answer to than me is we understand with J.D.'s visit to Europe that the emphasis on who is going to be taking care of Ukraine and who is going to be heading NATO is shifting

in responsibility to the Europeans. It's clear also here that Zelensky is expressing he has no belief that the Europeans will back him because they didn't previously back him. My question, I guess, Pete, maybe you know more about this than me is, is he right about that? Does Europe really have any interest in defending Ukraine so long as the United States isn't paying for it? I don't think so. They don't have the money to do it. I mean, London is out of gold. I mean, they don't even have backing for what they're lending. out now. So who has it Germany? Who's going to do this? I mean, this is all, like,

if you go on certain websites, you can see they're posting all of the quotes that are coming out of Germany stands with Ukraine. Okay, you can say that all you want, that all that is is hopes and prayers, you know, thoughts and prayers. I mean, they don't have the money to do this. They don't have the will to do this. The only one that may have the will to even try it is England because they need those minerals because they don't, they have no, their wealth is gone. The wealth is gone from the city of London. So they need something to back up what they do as far as banking goes. That's the only one I can think of, but I think it's bullshit. I don't, I don't think Europe is going to stand for this at all. I mean, you could say, oh, well, if he takes Ukraine, then he'll take the

rest of Europe. Really? I mean, you're the same people who're saying he's not even beating Ukraine right now. And you think he's taking the rest of Europe? Okay, what do you, they know they're lying. So I don't take this seriously at all. Is it, is it that they know they're lying or is it that they know they can't back up their own sovereignty? Well, I think some of them know they're lying. I think there are, AA had a, played an audio from, I can't remember who it was. I think, it was something EU related, where they actually sounded like they thought, oh, we can still win this. Ukraine can still win this if they do this. When you say back up their own sovereignty.

Is that what Keir Stormer was saying? Or was that what Boris, whatever his name is was saying, has been saying for a long time? Both. But when you say back up their own sovereignty, what do you mean? Well, I don't know. I guess that before I answer that, the next question is, is Europe really? interested in whether or not parts of Ukraine are owned by Russia. But I guess are they really interested?

You said they couldn't back it up because they don't have the money, but do they even have an ideological concern? I don't know why they would, considering Russia has held parts of Ukraine before. You know, it's only, it seems like it's only since Putin took power that they have, they care about Ukraine. I mean, when Ukraine was totally controlled by the Soviet Union, well, we don't speak bad, poorly of the Soviet Union. You know, so, yeah. So I guess then to answer that is right now, I guess there's a perception that Ukraine has sovereignty.

And right now, a lot of the EU representatives are, I mean, this is their main thing is preserving Ukrainian sovereignty. And the big line is, I forget again, who it was that said it, but. They were basically going, we will back you, Ukraine. If you want to keep going to war, we will back you in doing that. I think it was Stormer. And the reality of that is that he's not telling the truth. They will not back him if the United States lessens its relationship with Ukraine and stops paying for the war effort. They're just lying.

They will not back Ukraine at all. And therefore, they accept the territories that will be taken by Putin. And then I guess I wonder if he was to move in and wrap up on the rest of Ukraine, they probably would not move to stop that or even care either. Well, I mean, that might be a different story, but I don't think he wants the rest of Ukraine. I mean, Ukraine is two countries when you break it down. In the east, you have Russians. They're ethnic Russians. In the West, you have retarded Ukrainians.

You have pale of settlement Ukrainians. You have Galician Ukrainians. They're historically psychotic, retarded. You can't control them. He doesn't want them. Why would he want to control the people who, why would he, why would he want control of land that contains a people

that is deranged? Yeah, he already has Chechnya. that's true. He doesn't need to. He already has Dagestan. Chesnia seems to be on his side because of some, maybe some eschatological beliefs that they have, but they'll,

that's for a totally different episode. So, yeah, just to bring it back to what we're watching here, all of that to say, Zelensky knows that if, If the United States doesn't care, nobody cares. So it's perplexing the position that he takes here where he's acting as though he's got other people in his corner. No, it's, he's, if he honestly believes this, he's, if he thinks he's going to go into our White House and bully, you know, Trump, who's been dealing with bullies his whole life and has had to learn how to be a bully. well, I mean the manlet is retarded.

Didn't, and he didn't bring a translator, which I think is perplexing because he's a horrible English speaker and he doesn't understand English idioms. And I just don't understand that. Don't get it at all other than that it's sheer total arrogance. Yeah. Well, keep going to this? I do. I want people to pay attention to the number of words after he finishes this long,

annoying spiel we've heard before. How many words J.D. Vance gets into his response before Zelensky interrupts him and how immediately the tenor of the conversation changes. You are speaking about. What do you mean? I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you're not... Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower. problems. You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? I have been to,

I have actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Are, do you disagree that you've had where has any of this been said by a previous administration or anyone working in the previous administration? If you notice back there when, um, after Zelensky said his last sentence, he whispers something under his breath. And some people are picking up that it was a Ukrainian word for bitch. Yeah, I would not be surprised. Yeah, I tagged a friend of ours who has a Ukrainian wife to see if he can verify that.

All right, ready? I rolled it back just a bit. Yep, go for it. To bring it into this conflict. Do you have been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? I have been to, I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?

A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, every day. everybody has problems. Even you, but you have nice ocean, and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the fusion. God bless. You don't know that. God bless. You are not going to work. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're no position to dictate that. You're in a very brief pause here. Just again, just again, if you watch any any Ukrainian

NAFOTards do this kind of thing. It always goes history and their version of history and then it goes, you've never been here, so what do you know? And then it always goes if you don't do what we say,

you're going to feel it eventually. It's always the same lines. Yeah, it's pure propaganda. It's basically Hasbara, Israeli Hasbro where it's like, oh, well, look at what we're dealing with over here. If we don't deal with these terrorists, you're going to eventually deal with them.

Well, yeah, we're going to deal with them if you're, if HIAS is, if the Hebrew Immigranade Society is sending them into Europe and the United States. Sure, yeah. Yeah. I understand. Totally emotional blackmail that just doesn't work. Yeah. And it's just, it's all threats.

You know, it's like that Barbara Lerner Specter thing. If Europe doesn't learn to become multicultural, it's not going to, it's not going to survive. Is that a threat, bitch? What are you doing? Yeah. It comes from a perspective where the person saying it is under the impression that they're in agreement. Like this kind of thing used to work in the Biden administration. It doesn't work now.

This is a guy who has a cordial relationship with Vladimir Putin. This is not, you're not talking to people who have this grand mythos about the evil USSR that still exists anymore. Employers, did you know, you can now reward you and your staff with up to 1,500 euro and gift cards annually, completely tax-free. And even better, you can spread it over five different occasions. Now's the perfect time to try Options Card. Options Card is Ireland's brand-new multi-choice employee gift card, packed with unique features that your staff will love. It's simple to buy, easy to manage, and best of all, there are no extra fees or hidden catches. Visit Optionscar.I.E. Today.

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They didn't like Zaris Russia. The early Soviet Union. The very early one. Yeah, before 1954. Yes. What we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good. We're going to feel very good and very strong.

You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he happens to be right about it. From the very beginning of the war, you're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards. Right now you don't care. You're playing cards. You're playing.

You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. That's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said they should have. Have you said thank you once? No, in this entire thing, you said thank you.

You went to Pennsylvania and campaign for the opposition in October. That's something people don't. That's something that J.D. said that. I had completely forgotten about. So, Lensky came to the United States and campaigned for the Biden, for the re-election of not Biden, but it was Kamala Harris at the time.

Yeah, he did that. I totally forgot about it too, but it's evident that the people, that they didn't forget about it. And that's what's good about it. You got to love somebody like Trump who never forget somebody who slides them. Go back a little bit and I watch Trump's face because I think after J.D. says that,

Trump does that like, he's right, you know, like that like realization. All right, let's do that. With the lives of millions of people, you're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. That's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said. They should have.

Have you said thank you once? A lot of times. No, in this entire meeting, have you said thank you? Even today. You went to Pennsylvania and campaign for the opposition in October, offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country. Please.

You're saying that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you can speak. He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country's in big trouble. Can I answer? No, no. You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.

I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone. And we are thankful. I said, thanks.

You haven't been alone. We gave you this stupid president, 350. What? We have been alone. It's crazy. I'm so disrespectful. How much support has he gotten from? There's no way Ukraine could have made it past.

Beyond material, there's an extensive foreign legion. I mean, this guy is a piece of shit. Yeah. There are retards from this country who went over there to fight with this, to fight for Zog. I think you mean heroes. What? I think you mean heroes like Rod.

Ryan Routh and Malcolm Nance. Don't get me started. Don't do that. Don't do that, bird. I rolled it back a little bit. Let's play that again. I said,

tanks. You have a bill in this cabinet. We gave you, stupid president, $350 billion. We gave military equipment. And you met a brave, but they had to use our military.

If you didn't have our military equipment, you invited, If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. In three days. I heard it from Putin in three days. This is another NAFO thing. Oh, this is all Putin talking points. Yes.

Oh, it is. You just want to punch him right in the head. I'm sure he just wanted to punch him right in the head. You know, it's unbelievable levels of disrespect from a guy with no negotiating position. I'm telling you, dude, this. will go down as a this will when every documentary about this conflict comes out this will be a scene a major scene this is something maybe less in two weeks of course yes it's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this i tell you just say thank you i said it all the excited except

american people except that there are disagreements and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out of the american media when you're wrong we know that you're wrong. But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on. That was a... I think it's... That's right there. What he says are there. I think it's great that everybody can see what is going on. That is the stake through the heart,

if you'll mind the heavy-handed reference. Yeah. All right. Let me keep going here. You have to be thankful. You don't have the cards. You're buried there. People have died. You're running low in soldiers.

Listen, you're running low in soldiers. It would be a damn good thing. And then you tell us, I don't want a ceasefire. I don't want a ceasefire. I want to go. And I want this. Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you, you take it. So the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.

Of course, we want to stop the war. But you're saying you don't want to ceasefire. I want a ceasefire. I want a ceasefire. Because you'll get a ceasefire faster than any green. Ask how people about ceasefire. What they think? It wasn't with me.

That wasn't with me. That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person. That was your, that was with Obama. It was your president. Excuse me. That was with Obama who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. Yes. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.

Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. You got to be more thankful because let me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us, you have the cards. But without us, you don't have any cards. One of questions to my... It's a vice president.

I'm sorry. It's going to be a tough deal to make. Because the attitudes have to change. What if Russia breaks is fire? What did Russia... Remember it? I mean, there was a part right there where he was like, you know,

he sounded like De Niro and Goodfellas. No, no, no. You're being very disrespectful. Very disrespectful. respectful. It's top form. I'm in awe. I'm totally in awe.

And again, I just want to point out the compassion. He could have kicked him out right away. That's what I would have done. I would have kicked him out right away. He let him go on. And he ended up making an ass of himself, an even greater ass of himself.

He doesn't even have to be in the room. Him and Putin could make the deal. He doesn't have to be in the room. let me present this. It's just unbelievable. Let me present this because I thought this was something that was pretty insane. While this is all going on, the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States is in the room, and somebody got her reaction. Oh, no.

Yeah, you should have put him up there with a translator or something. Is it Jeffrey Sachs next to her? Who's that next to her? Oh, let me see. It looks like Jeffrey Sachs. Jeffrey Sachs would have been like, look, you have to do a little better here. You have to act a little. You have to act more.

No, that's not Jeffrey Sachs. It looks like it would be funny. Stack the front row with all of the, like his worst critics. Oh, man, that would be brutal. That's like Putin. Put Vindman up there. Putt and the dog in. It's like Putin bringing the dog in with Merkel was there knowing that Merkel's scared of dogs.

It was a glorious day. I mean, this was the death of Nafo. I mean, that's the best way to put it. The North American fellas are now going to be labeled international criminals and they're all going to be put in jail. Oh, that's been my hope all along. That's crazy. I was hope. My hope was that it was all a pay.

op because then their names would be somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I used to tell them that. I used to tell them that online all the time. I'd be going back and forth to my Twitter. I'm like, you better hope there isn't a list somewhere. And if there is, you better hope someone burns it because this is going to come back on

you guys. You guys have been frigging promoting basically what was turned out to be a genocide. Yeah. Good luck with that, guys. and they're so, you know, do you have any of them, like, oh, I'm getting your account, your account's going to be deleted, I'm getting your account's going to be destroyed, five minutes, five minutes, and then like five minutes, they'd block me. I mean, children, children, but children who are promoting this.

I mean, I don't, it's hard to know numbers, but people that I respect, you know, or, saying like over a million Ukrainians. Yes, I've seen the million number also. Yeah. I remember Scott Ritter saying sometime in the middle of last year that there were reports

that there were a lot more dead and they were being buried in unmarked graves and their commanding officers were just collecting their paychecks. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, from that performance, by that I mean the propagandistic nature,

of the performance from that performance. It's clear at this point you simply can't believe anything associated with this guy. No information coming from anything he's associated with. If you didn't already realize that. Did you hear Tucker on that episode? He released a couple weeks ago where he said he was in a town in Switzerland that was one of the richest towns in Europe. And it was all Ukrainians shopping at the jewelry stores.

and just, you know, spreading wealth all over the place? Well, you know, I was shocked to find out the level of, and I'm tilting my head, like I'm on the office when I say this at the camera, the level of Ukrainian American wealth and influence in this country. Yeah, that's a, I'm staring at you intensely. on the old glory club live stream last night we came up with um i think we've come up with another euphemism of galicians because he met is he men just kept talking about all the psychopaths that come out of galicia that's you know yeah and i made the point galician american influence is

stunning i made the point that um my both of my my grandmothers through my mom's side's parents came here from Galicia. Oh, wow. Look at that. A year apart from each other. And 1910 and 1911. And I always, I wondered growing up why my grandmother was such a raging anti-Semite. Well, I also, I think that makes you Galician by maternity. Well, I mean, they're, you know, it's just, they're just ethnic polls.

So, yeah. The Galician network. Yeah, this is a stunning thing. This will be remembered forever as probably one of the worst diplomatic blunders that stupid country ever could have had. So, there's that. I mean, all over Ukraine. And really, you know, as I've been saying, you know, for a couple of years now, all this is, you know, and Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson puts it perfectly.

said all this is is something that a bunch of people in our government who shouldn't be in our government who have an ethnic animosity because of a program that happened in 1652 and a bunch of these people can trace their families to like within a 10 mile radius of Levovove. They hate Russia. They hate Ukrainians. and they managed to figure out a way to get Russians and Ukrainians killing each other. And I will say Russian and Ukrainian Christians killing each other. Right.

And people say, well, well, Putin didn't have to invade. Yeah, put yourself in the position that he was in. And see, you can say that from your fucking, and I'll be really boomer here, from your parents' basement. You can fucking say that. but be the fucking leader of a country that has 10,000 nukes and, you know, has, you know, and it basically has a group of their ethnic cohorts in another country just south of them who are being murdered and targeted for almost, you know, eight years at that point and see if you finally aren't like, okay, this is the final straw. We have to do something.

maybe it was a bad decision and maybe it was and it turns into a fucking catastrophe but I mean sometimes you just have to make a decision that's really fucking hard yeah you know again I gotta give a great credit

to the administration for its compassion I would have the first day I would have saw him out the door I would have given Putin what he wants ended it fuck them fuck the last administration just end it on the many nights of Christmas the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee, Christmas nights at gravity.

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Yeah. I would have given Russia all the oblasts. I would have given him Crimea. That I still would have taken 50% of Ukraine's minerals to pass back. And I would have saw him out the door. This is a deeply compassionate regime. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, they tried. Yeah, but one thing I was recording with my buddy Dark Enlightenment before this. And one of the things I pointed out to him is that for all the talk of Trump being this incredible Zionist, basically by turning his back on Ukraine, he's turned his back on international jury. Because, I mean, that's who this whole thing is for. I don't know if I can go that far with you because of the other subject matter we might talk about, but it certainly is the case that this project of theirs is now being put to an end. Yeah. Yeah, so. Do you want to get into the other related topic?

Yeah, you know, there, I'm glad I gave this 24 hours before. I really started talking about it because talking to other people, they've made me see it in different ways. But you can go ahead. You're America's number one newsman, and everyone's always interested in what you have to say about something. Well, the other most important piece of news, and I agree with you that there is a lot of ways to look at this.

But the other most important piece of news this week regards Vivek Ramoswamy's feet. no that's not not true that's a lie i mean i mean but come on when you saw that you had to have and and the people who were going well you know there are a whole the whole asian culture takes their clothes takes their feet off when they go into yeah they either wear slippers or socks they don't go around bare you know it's and can i just say and even in the listen i'm trying to be compassionate myself i was so moved today by don't behavior that I'm trying to be compassionate myself. Maybe it is like a Southeast Asian thing to just straight up go barefoot during interviews, but I will lay some of the blame at the people

framing the image to show his feet because we don't need to. I could have gone the watching the whole interview without thinking about his feet, but they wanted us to see his feet. And I mean, I'm glad they did. I'm glad that we got. Well, it's true. They're trying to keep this guy out of Ohio. Everybody is in agreement. This guy cannot go any further,

but he just has too much money to be kind of stopped. That's the problem. That's what I said last night. Zeman said if it wasn't for the money, this guy would not make it past the primaries. But he's going to have so much money behind him. It's going to be really hard to defeat him. Well, and I just want you.

you don't know in case you're curious on weakie feet his feet have been rated 2.71 now what who is backing this guy narrator he didn't want to know that I'll spare you I'll spare you the comparative numbers of others to give you an idea I'll spare you of that who is backing this guy is this guy entirely backed by wealthy Indians or is there some secret third option of who's backing him. Well, I mean, his initial company, the company that he had, what was that called,

Rugpole Incorporated? I think so. They were backed by JD Vance money and Peter Thiel money, well, which is basically the same thing at that point. So, I mean, you can just go off of that.

But it's a fake, now, you know, I've got issues with both of the two that you just named, but not seemingly in the same way ideologically as why Vivek bothers me. I mean, do you feel the same way, or do you just kind of view them all as they're being the same issue?

Well, you know, someone asked me, someone asked me recently, they said, well, if you had to have a next door neighbor who was Indian or someone of a certain tribe that you have a, you talk about often, who would it be? And without even hesitation, I'm like, oh, the tribe member. I completely agree.

Yeah, I don't really. There's an Indian community in Atlanta that I used to drive by all the time is basically one of those apartment complexes and they basically took over the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, you could smell it a mile away. There you go. You are, through that, you are handing on exactly the issue that I have is that Peter Thiel doesn't want me to be Peter. deal and Vivek Ramoswamy doesn't want me to have a house.

Yeah, well, I mean, he doesn't want you to have a job. He wants, he wants, like, you know, infinity pagets to come over here and, you know, do what, take, yeah, take over your house and, you know, so that you, they become owners, you become a renter and mostly from that. They'll never take over my job. They'll never want my job. Yeah, they'll, they can never be the number one newsmen. No one, have you noticed that there?

I mean, are there? any prominent Indian news people on TV, even in the mainstream media? Oh, great question. No. Because they just don't come off as trustworthy. What about, yeah, no, no, what about that one podcast co-host with Crystal Ball, Thagger and Jetty? Is that guy in the- Yeah, I don't like him. I don't know.

I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't know. He's not American. I just got in. I was just qualified as American recently. I got in before they closed the border, really. I don't know.

I don't think so. I think you're right. I don't think there is. I don't think there is. So what's the other subject that you? The real subject. Well, I guess there's two. I don't know how interested you are in the Manessay, FBI, CIA, sex chat.

As a matter of fact, let's talk about that because, I mean, that is, I don't know that. I still have another subject after that if you want to do that, which is, due to the release of some files, but we can do this first. Yeah, go ahead. Well, no, you definitely know more about this than me. This is one of those things that skews me out too much to where I couldn't really research it. I couldn't really look it up. All I know is Rufo leaked NSA and CIA, and I believe the FBI is in on this chat.

It's called Intel Link or Intel. anyone in the Intel community, it's available. It's some kind of private Slack channel where they talk about, it's just, I mean, there was, so there's this whole chat network, and there was a private chat room that was, that was about transgender sex, genital castration, artificial vaginas, pissetishes, polycules, gang bangs, other explicit material, furriedum, and you read some of this stuff, and it strikes you as incredibly sexless.

And so as I was reading this, I was suffering from a kind of uncanny valley, this feeling of these, I mean, total scum. Every single person here is an intelligence agent, and is like a gross trune. And that combination together terrifies me. And so I'm reading this completely sexless blog. And I think Rufo did everybody a little bit of a favor here because if you go to Rufo's

original post where he talked about this on February 24th, it begins exclusive at Grossman, Hannah, and I obtained logs from the end. NSA's secret transgender sex chat room in which NSA, CIA, and DIA, not FBI, employees discussed all the things that I named. That's the tweet. You go through the thread, and there's a lot of highlights Rufo made that that highlighted the prominence of a certain organization, if you will, and its representation within the intelligence. community, especially in the transgender chat rooms. Do without what you will.

What do you think about all of this, Pete? Which one are you talking about? There was a group two to four thousand years ago. And what if I give you my 40-minute Putin explanation of how we got from Moses to the transgender sex. So, so. And it would be a, it would be a fucking straight line. It would. There's no branches on that tree.

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That's it right there. And it is, it's, you know, what Orrin McIntyre, you know, it's, Orrin McIntyre tapping the sign. It's not rocket science. they're evil and they want to dittle kids. That's it. That's it. That's the takeaway is it was shown that some of the most powerful people in this country,

people that can pick your name randomly and target you and put you in jail or send officers to kill you and nothing will happen to them are deviant, child, monsters and, you know, basically Unix. And they can read all your tax messages. Yeah, they have access to everything you do. And they're basically Unix. And I thought Orrin McIntyre, when he was talking to Jay Birdon the other day, pointed something out that basically, if we look back in history at the end of Empire,

Unix always end up having undue political influence. Yes. China, Rome. ancient Greece, you're right? That's a very wise observation. These are the eunuchs. Yeah. So do with that information what you will, people.

I guess they are investigating this deeper. I know Tulsi Gabbard, I think, is taking the helm on this one. So we'll see what comes out of it beyond just this. Something tells me that whatever information we're given won't actually distinctly threaten the intelligence apparatus, which that same notion will tie us into what we can talk about after this. But before we end on this. I want to say about Tulsi is, you know, it came out a couple of what years ago that Tulsi was, she wasn't on the no-fly list, but she was on a watch list for when she traveled.

These are the people who decide who goes on those lists. These are the people, if they don't make the ultimate decision, they're the ones who gather the intel, quote unquote, to pass it up the line. And what do you think up the line looks like? You think up the line is any different? What I'm interested in seeing is I want to know the positions of some of these people. I want to know like where they are in the NSA,

where they are in Department of Homeland. I want to know who in this, who was the highest ranking of, the highest ranking, I guess, position, who had the highest ranking title in this group. Well, you know, I, and I actually think I'd like to see something like the reverse of that. I'm really interested to see how many people participating in this chat room were low-level, you know, I guess you'd say they have a light executive function in that they're not in management. They are the individual contributors.

I'm really interested to see if it's actually from the bottom, which is where a lot of the direct impact on individuals, the blackmail is siphoned. So, yes, I'd like to see institutionally on top what orders are being given and who's involved. But I really want to see how many regular agents, how many people in, I don't know, their finance department or their HR department or things like that. These functions that you know in the government have very, very weak oversight. That's the stuff that I'm really interested in here. And I hope Tulsi pulls that information out. And I also think we are more likely to get that kind of information because it won't structurally threaten the intelligence agency.

So we'll see. I guess we'll see. But my question to you, Pete, is before we cycle off of this, what do you say to the people who um who caution us that uh this information in the manner that it was uh revealed by hannah grossman's reporting what do you think about the claims of the invasion of privacy uh in relation to these workers and their their chat rooms there was a couple of perplexing tweets going around about um you know are you comfortable with the ability for these investigators to just be able to kind of publicly shame you.

What do you think about that? Well, I mean, if they're working for the government, if they're being paid by the American people, I don't think that they, and they're on, they're using a server that is being paid for by the American people, they don't have an expectation of privacy. Yeah, and I think, you know, the obvious problem. point here is it's just entirely it ignores the

you know the political stakes we we uh there was a mandate issue to Donald Trump in this administration to do this kind of stuff I don't so care about free expression of government employees or really

anybody else I mean the goal is clear out as much of the administrative state as possible and replace you know fewer positions altogether so there's more management, replace them with people who are, you know, it's a purge. We're replacing these people with people who are going to work for us. And I think at this stage, we just, you know, we need to stop moralizing about it and even engaging in the moralization of it and acknowledge, this is politics, grow up, we're doing what we were given a mandate to do, and we're going

to change the country forever. So it was really unusual to see people ostensibly who are on our side issuing this kind of like concern. And I think you need to take a closer look at people who issue concerns like that about really what their priorities are. Do they want to win or do they want to feel like the vibes? Because I want to win. Yeah. It's towards the whole.

Okay. So I guess we can use that to transition into the next subject because I think that's a good one. Do people want to know that Tom Hanks was diddling kids? Or do people want to know that billionaires who do business internationally were being blackmailed and committing treason against the American government? It's slop versus like, I mean, if you want to know about Tom Hanks, well, you're a slot monster and you go fuck yourself. Yes. Yeah. I couldn't care less in that sense. I mean, I'd like him to be prosecuted, but I couldn't care less.

Well, if you want to know whether Reed Hoffman, well, I mean, you know, they were diddling kids. I want to see them come to justice too. I agree. But what's really, but that is being used to ignore the fact that people like, say, a Reid Hoffman was basically in tears thinking about Trump coming to, coming into power. And Reed Hoffman is a client, was a client of Jeffrey Epstein. And what did he do? Why was he so scared? Was he scared because he, was he trembling?

Because, oh, people might find out I was diddle. I did old a kid. Or because they use this blackmail to get him to do something that could get him the fate of the Rosenbergs. There's a lot of connect. You know, you asked me to do a little bit of research on this. and I, um, there's a lot of connections that I was really surprised about. Let's, let's also not forget something really puzzling here is there's a grander story in that

there were two sets of files that we had expected on day one would be fully and totally released. It wasn't just Epstein. It was also the JFK files. And the only reason why I think, uh, that both of those sets of files haven't been fully released is for the same reason, which I guess, we can sort of get into. If you'll recall, it was mid-January, when Donald Trump issued an executive order, this might have been day two or three,

where he directed that all of the JFK files be disclosed. And the intelligence agencies responded by beginning the investigation, and very quickly they discovered something like, it was over 2,000, new records related to JFK's murder. So they said they were going to transfer the files over. They had 15 days to do it under Trump's orders,

and they've since passed that. There's a new informal target of March 9th, so we'll see if they keep track of that, just to get that out of the way. Now, obviously, you know, if you know, the granddaddy of JFK conspiracy theories, which is the handshake between LBJ and Aahood Barak. That's certainly a theory worth investigating.

I think it ties into the Epstein stuff. So obviously the first part of the... The first question you asked me was... On the many nights of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee Christmas nights at gravity. This Christmas, enjoy a truly unique night out at the Gravity Bar. Savour festive bites from Big Fan Bell,

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and they handed out these phase one binders, white binders, that contained information. As far as I've understood by everybody who's talked about what's in them, information that has already been leaked in the past, and even some information that has been leaked unredacted in the past is redacted in the newly released DOJ Phase 1 document. So how did you feel about they're calling it Phase 1 gate? How did you feel about that photo opportunity? Well, I mean, I agree with Dave Smith. If you want to be transparent about a massad, you know, raping kids op,

maybe not send a bunch of Zionists and Jews over there to get the, gather the information and give them and then do a photo op with them, which they swear isn't a photo op. Oh, no, everybody was there to take pictures of Zelensky or Starmer. Oh, my God. We're just, you know, no, no, screw you. I mean, put the whole thing online. Just put it online.

That's all you have to do right now is just put it online. I mean, Ryan Dawson, they won't. Ryan Dawson has since 2006 been investigating this here. I think he wrote his first article about this in 2005 or 2006. He's combed through like the, there's so much stuff that's public about this that is already out there that they didn't release. Like, you can go and read testimonies of what people said and, you know, what women said happened to them. And all of this stuff is out there. And but, you know, the things that I think people are interested in is, like, solid proof.

Like, because there's video. We know that the brownstone in New York was hooked up for video and hooked up for audio. I don't want to see those videos. You're talking about the townhouse they raided back in 2019? Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to see those videos. I don't want to hear the audio.

All I'm interested in is who the hell was a traitor. Who did what? Who was on the labels? Yeah. Who did what? Because they had been blackmailed and who was doing the blackmailing? Who was behind the blackmailing? I think, you know, anyone with a brain in their head knows who knows who Jalaine Maxwell's dad is and knows what his ties were and knows how, and maybe even knows how he met his final, you know, how he shuffled off this moral coil.

So, go ahead. I think Maxwell is how he met Ehud Barak. I mean, that's certainly how he met Yulain. The, the, so the interesting thing that I found. out about the videos is obviously there's been a bunch of foias that have been you know they've sued

the FBI to get these tapes because they want to see whose names are on the tapes and the FBI this was very recently the FBI was arguing that they can't release these records because they

will interfere with ongoing law enforcement proceedings Now, there aren't, there are not ongoing law enforcement proceedings. Galane's in court. That's not what the FBI is concerned with. They are concerned, they stated that they were concerned in the case of a potential retrial of Galane Maxwell or other co-conspirators that they wouldn't be able to release any of

these tapes. So again, it's not it, it's not an ongoing investigation. It's they, the FBI argued that they can't release the tapes because of a potential thing that isn't currently happening, a retrial. And that's why they're still holding on to them. Now, it was, you know, Bondi, I don't know what happened in the room where they passed that binder out, but my assumption is based on the totally idiotic 14 or 15 alt media operatives that were sent in there all tweeted the exact same thing at nearly the exact

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able to release even more damning material. It was Bondi, who knew? When she was looking, she didn't see any smoking guns. And that's what tipped her off. So she's re-investigating. I, you know, I don't even know what can be said. It certainly sounds like something that you would say. But I don't really know if it's true. And what's really frustrating about it is there is no oversight committee who is looking into what is going on right now. You've got, and this goes, by the way, this also goes for the JFK files too. Not to keep pushing on that, but these two things are concurrent and related. There's about 3% of JFK files, probably the most sensitive thing, because it's, hasn't been released. These 3% of remaining files they found, they haven't been released because of

the quote, the effect to compromise national security, interfere with law enforcement, or affect foreign relations. It's the same thing they rolled out for why they can't release or they weren't able to release under a FOIA previous Epstein documents. It's a key in on the affect foreign relations element of that. So both with the JFK files and the Epstein files, you've got Chuck Grassley, who runs the Senate committee on the judiciary. This guy hasn't issued any statements confirming any reception of new documents in the case of the JFK stuff, hasn't confirmed any interest to investigate what's going on in relation to the FBI and the Epstein files. Nothing.

Hasn't said a thing. It's a weekday that we're doing this. Hasn't said a thing. And then you have Jim Jordan, who runs the committee, the Judiciary Committee in the House. And Jim Jordan's office is more interested in Rick Rowling people about the full documentation. You also have the National Archives, and the National Archives holds these files. They've not confirmed any reception or review of any of the new JFK documents that are causing a stall. And they haven't said anything because they haven't said anything about these supposedly to be received FBI documents in relation to the Epstein files.

So they're not saying anything either. So, you know, Bondi is out here saying that more information couldn't be released because of the victims and compromising ongoing investigation. It's just all very puzzling. What active investigations are going on that require secrecy, we knew when Galane Maxwell was being investigated. So it rings totally hollow to me. Every excuse that we've heard so far just rings totally hollow to me. Well, and they've, up until this point, they've always found a way around this. Like, you know, you'll say, oh, Glane Maxwell was convicted of trafficking.

So, okay, well, who was she trafficking to? Oh, she was trafficking into Jeffrey Epstein. Well, that's convenient. Of course. Right. What was she trafficking into Jeffrey Epstein and for what purpose? I mean, who's behind this? Who gave this?

how did this guy who basically was like a substitute teacher all of a sudden get access to one of the most expensive buildings, townhouses in New York, and now is advising billionaires on their money? How did this all happen? How do he build his own ranch? How do he build his own ranch and basically pay? a payoff senator to get

like zoning stuff restricted. I mean, it's well, you know, remember what Alex Acosta said. Can we just nuke New Mexico already? Can we nuke New Mexico already? Because everything bad, everything in New Mexico seems to be bad. Poor Gene Hackman. Cursed.

Bad and cursed, yeah. Well, you remember what Alex Acosta said about Epstein, right? He belonged to intelligence. Yeah, he belonged to it. He, He said, I was told he belonged to intelligence. Okay, which intelligence? If you believe that the CIA and the Masada basically

for the same thing for, for, they work in tandem. I remember Lieutenant Karen, uh, Lieutenant Colonel Karen Kuatkowski, she goes on Judge Knapp show all the time. I remember her talking about how like in the early 2000, she was one of the people who, if a foreign delegation showed up to the Pentagon, they would get somebody to, to escort them in, you know, and show them around or, you know, just get them to where they were. She said, Massad would just walk in. Israelis would just walk in.

It's two family members looking at one another. Yeah. It's just like, hey, hey. Hey, good to see you. Good to see you. Listen, it could be the FBI. I brought hummus. I want to defend the possibility that it could be, you know, the part of that, that, that, I mean, there's a lot of, that.

I mean, there's a lot of speculation on Epstein's operation who was entangled with. There's Massad, CIA. There's, you know, unit 8200. Can I let to say that? Anyway, there's also... Yeah, I say it all the time. It's also FBI. There's also the FBI.

I really do think the FBI... They're fighting to keep name sealed. I mean, that is clear. And it's probably... because there was, I don't, I don't remember who reported it, but there was a, it was reported that, I don't remember who reported this, maybe you do. Epstein had shared his blackmail material with the FBI, and that could be one reason why they want to keep those details under wraps, because it was part of a way for them to leverage various important people in the country.

This is kind of a mockingbird sort of thing. So there's that. Also, the possibility, of course, that it's just to cover up to protect very valuable informants. And then there was also... You remember when Epstein got the plea deal? That was the first time that he was pulled in. Yes.

It was very lenient and bizarre, and it looked like a cover-up. And that's... You got back to Acosta. Remember, he said that it was... you know, it is very poor judgment. And he said that straining, not to say something more meaningful than that. So there's all that. And then, of course, yes, Robert Maxwell, of course, has got the Mossad connections.

And it is a really classic, like, honey trap. Mossad is known for classic honey traps. That's how they control a lot of the Arab royalty. and again it was it was Maxwell who had him

meet with Galayan and Maxwell is the one who fosters Epstein's relationship with Ehud Barak

and then like Ahud Barak and Epstein they invest in a lot of these tech companies together they're all tied in to the same money-making apparatus.

And then the main thing, you know, unit 8200, it was carbine that they were all investing in. It was this health technology thing. So they're all interconnected. So it's certainly the case that the FBI's got a reason to cover up. And it's certainly the case that like high level Israeli Zionist politicians, um, the bureaucrats, tech investors, all of them. have a lot of interest in covering this stuff up. And then it's obviously it's,

you know, that mega group like Wexner and the Bronfman's Steinhart. This is where everybody should really go and listen to what Whitney Webb has been doing on this. It's really great research. Everyone should go listen to what Ryan Dawson is doing on it because Whitney Webb is just repeating everything Ryan Dawson has ever researched. Thank you.

There you go. I'll have to go and watch Dawson stuff on this too. There's a lot of interrelated things. So explain to me, Pete, if you can, what is the, I mean, what do you think is most likely? Is this all just one cover-up? Are there different cover-ups going on? I mean, I think it's a little too easy to say that it's all one cover-up. You know, that's the, I think that's the easy.

way out. I think things are usually more complicated than that when it comes to all of these, you know, the tentacles. And yes, I'm using that for a reason. Yeah, I, you know, people have make this point about did you know that Miriam Adelson gave Donald Trump a hundred million dollars? And I'm always like, yeah, do you know that Timothy Mellon gave him 170 million? And Elon Musk gave him 250 million and how many times have Saudi families bailed him out when he was bankrupt? Yeah, it seems like a lot of people have hands in the pies here. Employers rewarding your staff? Why choose between a shop voucher or a spend anywhere card when with options card you can have both.

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When you're looking, when you take into consideration what's happening in Ukraine, which hurts international jury, when you take into consideration shutting down USAID, which is a big source of their funding, that seems to hurt these people. When you look at what he's saying over and over again about Gaza, about, oh, yeah, we're going to take it over. That basically takes all the ideology away from it. It's like this isn't the, this isn't like the holy land that's promised to Israel anymore. This is like, oh, no, we're going to build casinos here.

People don't seem to get that. And also, you know, it's also, you know, the sound. The Arabs believe that that's their land. He's basically taking these two parties out ideologically and being like, no, no, it's going to be like an Indian reservation in the United States. We're going to build casinos and maybe we'll give, you know, this, this. He doesn't seem to be 100% on the side of Zionism as people would expect them to be because of $100 million, which just is my friend Storm. He says, that gets you access to the White House. maybe this is his

maybe this is the way of paying back and paying those people who like Edelson and her husband back in the 2016 for you know what they've given to him you know what they've donated to him did you see the

the Q theory on why the documents haven't all been released in full let me let me try and guess this one hold on Let me see So they tease that And it gets Remember every cue theory is always

Remember that every cue theory is always That Donald Trump's going to do The means to do the right thing Well I mean the last cue theory I saw had to do with something about Preserving Jesus Christ's bloodline So no I don't I'm not even going to try and guess So go ahead

Well it was, of course, that, well, they just got the FBI directorship under control with Cash Patel. So the reason why they haven't released stuff yet, of course, is because now Patel is getting a solid group of agents together so you can round up all the suspects before they know they're being investigated. You know, what's the craziest thing about that? is that is exactly what a good law enforcement department would do.

Yeah, yeah, but it's not, but it's not going to do that. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing about every Q theory is that would be what a smart and right-wing organization would do. But it's never that. It's unbelievable. I mean, you got to give it to them. They want it so bad. It's when they started, you saw that one about this would preserve, Trump's out there trying to preserve Jesus, the bloodline of Jesus Christ.

Yeah, the Marevindian, yeah, of course. I mean, that's some Dan Brown shit, man. It's like literally, who's right in those tweets? Is Dan, you see that bored? It's pause Baws is writing those tweets Oh I wish he would tell us it was him Oh god that was so good

So um that the I mean the long story short Is that neither of these files are being released And it's probably because what would be released Would be damaging to our foreign relations with Israel I mean that's why Yeah Because cutting off the money

Cutting off the money supply is one thing. Cutting off Ukraine is another the one he's doing with Gaza is really odd to me because that one seems like they'd be pushing back on that really hard and maybe that's what everything that's going on in the West Bank.

And yes, I do know that the West Bank and Gaza are not the same thing people. So yeah, don't fucking comment to me in some emails. Maybe I mean knowing that that if, here's a question, I'll throw back at you, Bird. Would, if the American people found out that this was a Mossad up and that people were raping kids for, for Israel,

do you think that, do you think that would change the, I mean, and I'm not a populist either, I'm an elitist, would that even change the, the general population's opinion of Israel? or are they so far gone? Oh, I don't know. I mean, half of the country already has sort of a negative opinion. I don't know if it would. I guess the next level of your question is to answer the question, would it make a functional difference to the people who benefit?

And I don't think it would. I don't think that that kind of a revelation would rise to the level of a revolt, and so I don't expect any reason why there wouldn't be a change in business as usual. Sure, you could get a lot more representatives. Okay, so let's just do the math. Out of all of the representatives in the House, people in the Senate, what percentage of those people would take a genuinely anti-Israel position, probably less than 2%, maybe 2%, just a wild ballpark guess.

You got 300 people, yeah, maybe six or seven of them would take a genuine anti-Israel position on something, something that would actually structurally harm Israel. I can see if we really believe the idea that the general population is voting for those representatives out of the field of representatives that they are allowed to choose from. if it really mattered, then the powers that be would just tweak who the American people are presented with. So I don't think it would make a single difference at all structurally if information like that would be revealed. But I do think that it would allow for, because I do think it would be genuinely scandalous to the American people, maybe to the point of greater protests or something to that effect.

And that would be exactly what the regime would want because protests, all they do is, functioned to burn off people with, you know, energy and strong opinions on things. So I think it would totally work in their favor. I don't think that's how you damage our relationship with Israel at all. I think it's got to be a top down. And it can come through internal influence, potentially. But, yeah, I don't think a general revelation to the American public would do a thing at all. Okay, so what if it was released that, you know, Israel, Massad, whomever, Israeli intelligence, you know, Mossad is sort of a boogeyman and people can straw man the hell out of that. But just saying Israeli intelligence was responsible for not only Epstein and everything he was doing

and that everything he was doing was for the benefit of Israel. and they found out that, you know, Israeli intelligence was, if not behind or helped plan the JFK assassination. Say there was like a political turn. Well, can I just say, I just don't think they would ever release anything like that about the JFK assassination? Because I think that would be a genuine challenge structurally. Well, what I was going to ask you is, if that were to happen, would you see wealthy Jews in this country

turn on Israel for the sake of their own self-preservation? Oh, wow, I don't know. Well, what do you think? Because here, here, because here's, I'll just on a smaller level. So, like, you had basically the woke that, you know, what we call this woke ideology, all this stuff that, you know, was on that, was on that Slack channel and everything.

They came out of, you know, another straw man, boogeyman, the Frankfurt School and places like that. And it's, they admit, you can look, I mean, the first transgender clinic in the world was run by, by, by Hershfeld out of, out of Weimar. This is a, this is something that was created by Jews. And when it came back to bite them in the ass, sort of like immigration is coming back to bite them in the ass, you saw a whole bunch of left-wing Jews all of a sudden become right-wing. When they saw, you know, ones who formerly supported, you know, progressive causes, when they saw people after October 7th, you know, kids getting out on college campuses and, you know, basically saying these are colonizers because Jews, are white, they turned on a dime and they adapted, just like they always have.

You know, I'm reading 200 years together on my show with Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson, and just into chapter four, we've already seen how, depending on what the, what the Tsar was doing and what kind of proclamations he put down, the Jews would have one attitude or they change it. They're fluid. They just, they're looking. to survive. So I'm wondering if you wouldn't see the same thing, that they'd be willing to sacrifice Israel just so that they could survive, especially if they're in this country and they

do literally are worth a billion dollars, and it's not a billion dollars of international juries money where they're just walking around as a bank account. Well, can you like to find what you mean by survive? I think I could come up with my idea of. it if I knew what you meant. Well, I mean, one thing that we know about Jews is you rarely see Jews come out and, you know, criticize Jewish behavior or criticize what Israel's doing. You know, it's always somebody else's fault that they would come out and say, yeah, that they would actually turn on their fellow Jews and be like, yeah, what they did was

completely wrong, and I have to wash my hands of Israel. I could never support Israel ever again. And, you know, to be like, I'm one of the good ones. That is certainly already happening. Yeah, that is certainly already happening. But I don't, I do, what I wonder is, you, the apparatchiks could talk like that. But I guess we'd need to know what, what is really that the binding myth of the elite class preserving these kinds of interests is, and who's in the. that class.

I mean, at this point, I think the, I don't know if it's a myth. I think it's just survival. That's pretty much what you've seen throughout history. And then when something happens, when they have a chance to get power, they immediately take it. When they have a chance to get influence, they immediately take it. And when, you know, attacks start happening, they go into survival mode, change their names and convert to Christianity.

All sorts of things. I mean, this isn't me. This isn't a, and this isn't a conspiracy theory. This is documented in like Jewish encyclopedias. I don't, I don't see that the revelation that Epstein was like an Israeli Mossad operation and that JFK was killed, at least in part by Zionists. I don't see that that would threaten the, I don't see that that would threaten the survival of Jews and the existence of Israel. Okay.

That's, that, that's the opinion, one of the opinions I was asking for. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I just, I mean, I think Americans are, I think Americans are so fucked that they, that you're probably right. I mean, they, they lost results in their home. Does the average American, does the average American even get to have the say? in those questions. I think the answer is clearly no. Well, I mean, I think elites are in charge,

but I think elites also know how to read the tea leaves. One thing elites don't want is a revolution. Yes. Unless they guide it. That would be really interesting, which they may be able very well to do, but that's a really interesting question that we would probably need an entire episode to just think about is, would those conditions set a revolution? and really every revolution is sort of just a recycling of who the new elite are. So that could be a valid way for the regime to preserve itself.

I guess the real question is, well, because if the regime is preserving itself, then Israel may not be at risk in that case anyway. The real question is would it cause chaos? Would it cause a breakdown in the current system? I think the answer to that is no. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, that's a good, I mean, that's an opinion that I think is educated because you live through 20, you live through the financial crisis like I did.

You live through 2020 like I did. You live through J6 like I did. You've lived through all this where the American people just don't care. They don't care. Yeah. And our structural, our structural politic is made in such a way that there, I can't personally imagine the conditions that would have to occur where the federal government would, or the state governments, would lose control in a way that would threaten the existence of Jews in this country or Israel. I just don't see it. Again, that I could be, someone could definitely, I'm open to that, but it really would require a lot of thought about that. I don't think so, just offhandedly. Yeah, I'm trying to find this tweet by Martyr Made by Darrell that I shared.

It was a tweet that he made back in, I think it was in August of last year. It was sometime last year where he basically said that one of the reasons why he, why Jay-6, he's not going to get upset even if the J6 protesters were trying to overthrow the government is because when Epstein ended up dead in jail, that should have been the final straw. And if they're not going to do anything at this point, then, you know, whatever. Yeah.

The tolerance level to overthrow something like the current federal system is just, it would have to be so low. You'd have to have the military defecting. Guys like you and me, I mean, we are, a lot of us really would be passive in that kind of an exchange of power, you know? That's, I think, is we'd all be watching it unfold on TV. Well, and I'm not even talking about, like, taking up arms. I'm talking about, like, you know, like, oh, we're going to march on Washington. Like, demanding your lawmakers, even change everything.

say this cannot, this cannot stand anymore. Yeah, he said, I support J6 protesters because what happened with Epstein was reason enough to overthrow the government and I'm not going to quibble over the details of how it gets done. I wouldn't feel cheated out of justice if an inmate escape death row only to get hit by a bus. You know, I mean, and it doesn't necessarily have to be for the sake of any, you know, agents listening, talking about overthrowing the government. I don't think that that's wise. I don't think arms revolution in this country's even could even work.

Totally impossible, yeah. Yeah, so I never. Who would you be revolting against? It would look exactly like the Floyd protests, just a total waste of time. Yeah, there's no head of the snake. So, you know, I mean, even demanding, I mean, like having, like calling, quote unquote, and I know these are basically impotent, but like constitutional conventions to say, look, we need to, you know, like large swaths of influential people doing that.

It's just not going to happen. It's not going to happen. So, you know, whatever Donald Trump is doing, you know, I'm fine. I'm perfectly fine with him trying to dismantle the managerial state. But while he's trying to do that, I'm going to be over here doing my own thing. You know, I'm going to be over within the law. I'm going to be doing my own thing to make, you know, myself and the people I care about as prosperous as possible.

Yeah, and in the meanwhile, the other thing, the other context to the whole conversation is the regulatory bureaucracy is being dismantled before our eyes, and we are entering a new phase of this country. And the kind of question, what relationship does the American opinion of Israel, have to do with how Israel ensures its own survival is going to be decentralized in a manner that will make it even less related public opinion to the survival of that country and the funding that goes to it. So this is the case of Israel really is a sovereign country. Nothing outside of it I don't think at this point really fundamentally threatens its existence as a state currently in the form that it is with the system that it has.

At the same time, to go way back to the beginning of this, the way that our federal government treats the apparatchiks of that project is also changing. And so we may find out later that these kind of things, occurred that maybe JFK, oh, maybe there was some Mossad connection. By the way, I don't think any of this stuff would ever be communicated on office copy anyway, so it's gone to the grave with people. But we may learn one or two names that connects to Israel, have a lot of money, and we're involved in it. And we may even learn that LBJ turned a blind eye to something, or I don't think we'll ever learn

that LBJ did it. But I think, first of all, this information, there's no reason to release it and there's a lot of reason to continue slow walking it and so even if it does get released a lot of the juiciest stuff would never have been written down anyway would never have been found in any investigation anyway so we might get to the point where

even if the response to the release in full would fundamentally have been a threat in a liberal democracy to Israel's existence, whatever our country is turning into, severely decentralizes public opinion's ability to shift public policy further than it already was displaced. So, yeah, I think we're entering a new era, and, you know, I don't say it joyfully, but the conditions have already been set as we go into this next phase. And yeah, I just don't think, I think we may have some impact in ways we don't expect on things coming, but all this stuff is just matters of the past.

Oh, by the way, our friend who I tagged says, um, Suka definitely means bitch in Russian and Ukrainian. So yeah, that's a, yeah, that's a, yeah, I believe it. The wee, the wee little, the wee little man, um, calling J.D. Excellent. Yeah. I mean, just a child. I mean, just a child. And let's never forget.

He's just an actor. He's just an actor. He's an actor. That's generous. He's a comedian. He's a comedian who was on a show playing somebody who got elected to be pre. I mean, it's fucking retarded. It's like a terrible, like, I know there are some made for next.

movies that are like decent made for Netflix shows, but like 10 years ago when you had the made for Netflix stuff where you turned it on, you're like, oh, this is cringe as hell. That guy's whole story arc is cringe as hell. Yeah. I can't wait until we don't see him anymore. And this might be the last time. It would be a lot funnier if there weren't, you know, probably like a million and a half people dead because of him.

Yeah. Of course. I mean, of course. like at some point in that final conversation and I call it say final because I really do think that he had to have realized that this is it I've already I can't go back now I've I've just ruined whatever semblance of a relationship there was yeah it's it's over for him and it's over for us all right um plug away well um I am the proprietor of America's number one news tracking podcast in America. America made. We are TLE, Timeline Earth. You can find us on any

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