The Pete Quiñones Show - The Discussions With 'Dark Enlightenment' (So Far)

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

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Come see for yourself. The Liddle New Bridge Warehouse Sale, 28th to 30th of November. Liddle, more to VIII. value. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cagnone show for the first time. Someone I've been talking to for a while. It goes by Dark Enlightenment. How are you doing, sir? It's a pleasure in an honor to be here. I'm a big fan of your show. I think I first heard of you on an episode of Tom Woods, and I followed you, and I must have listened to 30 Pete Cunernerner. Shows in a row, just

oh, and he's got this guy, and oh, man, I remember that. And it was a wonderful discovery and I love your program and it's really really good and uh in particular the stuff you've doing with thomas has been just absolutely outstanding so you know good job thank you so much yeah man thomas is a treasure i mean we he needs to be protected at all cost the information that he has um from now on i'm just gonna i'm gonna call you d e so um dee why don't you tell a little bit about your background so uh i'm in my say mid to early 40s, ish. So I was right at that age to be

radicalized by 9-11 and had a brief neocon phase. And then after about 03, when I saw what a rambling disaster, everything was turning into, I got turned on to Dr. Paul. Actually, in fact, no, I think I voted for, in the 2000 election, I think I voted for the Libertarian Party. So I'd been like a, you know, edgy anarchist in high school, like, you know, 97, 98. That'd be Harry Brown?

Yeah, Harry Brown. And then and then kind of took a neoconturned with the war, obviously. And then realized that was all BS. And got deeply into mold bug in 07. And I started reading Hans. Excuse me. And then kind of was like, wait a minute.

Hans just re-inded infid feudalism. What do you mean by that? You want to clear your throat? Yeah, sorry, I'm just, sorry, I muted for a second. So Hans-Serman Hopper, right? Like the democracy, the guy that failed, like blew my mind, right? It's just, just, whoa. And of course, his technical analyses, in fact, I was just listening to your discussion from last year of, gosh, what was it?

One of Hans's articles about, like, practical libertarian, like, the libertarian, for those who say libertarianism is neither left nor right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, like, like a government, a government. property owners that is primarily concerned with the intact family and the patriarchal system. Like, wait a minute. This is just feudalism. And I'm a right-wing Catholic guy. So I was like, well, that's cool.

Congratulations. Hans just reinvented, you know, monarchy yield feudalism. Like the judge of last resort, that's just the king. Okay, okay, bro, cool. We monarchists now. All right. And, uh, and, you know, you go through the logic. It's amazing how many people don't see that, you know, um, moldbug caught a lot.

of crap for reading democracy, the God that failed, and, you know, settling on monarchism, settling on, you know, one ruler, the, you know,

the person that makes the exception, who decides the exception. And so many people are like, well, how did he get that? How did he get, go back, go read it through those, through that lens and see what you think.

Right. Yeah. I mean, Curtis and, and, you know, obviously Curtis is brilliant. And, you know, your interviews with him have been great. Thank you. But, and, you know, I, I kind of got into this via Tom Woods.

I still, you know, I probably listened to, gosh, a thousand episodes to Tom. I mean, you know, hundreds and hundreds, at least. And he's still just high quality, brilliant guy. I really, his work on, you know, just wonderful. wonderful stuff. And I think that what you see as the years have gone by, right?

There's no such thing as a free market because it's conditioned like, oh, well, the free market will take care of this. What free market? We have a banking cabal that runs everything that effectively sets prices for everything via, you know, manipulation of interest rates and in manipulation of capital flows. There's no, there's no free market there. So what do you do

now? And that ultimately leads to you to asking, you know, mid-20th century questions, shall we say, and not being as upset with those guys as you've been taught to all your life. And I'll leave that there. But that's basically where I'm at is, you know, if, you know, there's this kind of Catholic idea of distributism of like making capital as widely spread as possible. But in any kind of conflict, right? Like if you have artisanal handmade widgets and the guy, you catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you even before you drive. The new Cooper plug-in hybrid range for Mentor, Leon, and Teramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2,000 euro.

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and he can produce a thousand of them of a day and you can produce 50 of them a day, you're going to get beaten. It's just that there's no other way around it. So you have to do some kind of production at scale, which means distributism out the window. And then so then what do you do there? And the question then becomes like, okay, which sort of right authoritarian government do you want?

And I'm happy with any kind of right authoritarian government. You know, if the ghost of Augusta was to come back, I would, I would do a jig, right? If, if others along those sorts of lines, they're infinitely better than what we have now. And I consider, you know, people who are solid hop, not left libertarians because they're just, they're just kindness with the extra steps. But, you know, any right libertarian, any monarchist, anyone who's, say, quote unquote, on the wrong side of history with the 20th century. they're generally allies of mine and I respect almost everybody who's willing to put in the intellectual work to find the truth out. And my particular interest, I was big into the neo-reactionary stuff. There's a gentleman by the name of Christopher Alexander, who's a Jewish-British-British architect who had a book that was big in knee-reactionary circles in 2011 or so called a pattern language.

talks about land development. And that's kind of where I went off and down a little bit of trail about that kind of stuff. And so I've kind of specialized in that and have done a lot of podcasts about that sort of thing. Why the suburb is doomed to fail and why our development pattern makes us poorer and it's a deliberate choice and a bunch of other stuff along those lines. But that's a lot of the stuff that you recommend that I talk about with, with Tim from our interesting times when we're talking about how the suburbs came into existence. Before we jump off on that, did you see it as I see it? I'm probably going to ask this to every former libertarian I ever talked to, is that a lot of libertarians are atheists.

but when you really talk to them, economics is their religion. They honestly believe that, like, economics can cure degeneracy. Economics can cure violence, you know, that every, you know, people are violent because, you know, of socioeconomic factors. Basically, economics can cure war. Every, that, if we just had the right economy. Yeah, and for a lot, and for a lot of those things, they're not in. entirely wrong and that economics can ameliorate a lot of that stuff. It absolutely can, you know, but once you accept that a couple things, not everyone is equal and not everyone wants to be free.

So if you've ever been to a libertarian medium, you know, right, it's literally like, if you're lucky, 10 dudes, but usually like five dudes, all of whom are a little bit autistic, every one of whom has an IQ of 120. And it's like, well, if society was composed entirely of 120 IQ plus, you know, autistic Asian and white men, then yeah, everything would work great. I mean, no one would ever have any children, but, but it would be peaceful and everything would be market-based. But that's not the way the world works. And once you accept it to that, you know, once you have read like the bell curve or gotten exposure to any of Jerry Taylor's work or I don't know, dealt with a woman. It just falls apart. Oh, you got, you had me right there at the ending.

Well, you know, the economics thing is sure, you know, so say that you had like hard currency. I always talking about my hard currency. There's only going to be 21 billion Bitcoin or 21 million Bitcoin. So is it going to end war? No, it's not. It could end war on a mass scale. You know, it's like what I'm seeing now. To me, the Russia invasion of Ukraine, well, first of all, to me, it's just the section that they invaded is just Russia invading Russia.

I mean, it's just them invading themselves. They just happen to be, that part of their country happens to be held hostage by somebody else. But, I mean, it's literally what we've seen in the, for most of the history of mankind before central banking. when a king actually had to pay for the wars is you have a local war you have a local land war and unfortunately like a lot of wars in history it's also a brother's war and but to look at it and you know watching everybody clutch their pearls over this it's like this is who we are i mean if you don't believe in the wig theory of history where everything's getting better and the progressives are like everything now is about morality and not about um practicality or consequentialism but then you have to look at something like this and be like, okay, you know, sure, economics could stop mass scale wars and endless wars, but you're still going to have things like this because you're still going to have things like rushing on its Ukraine because this is who we are. Right. Human beings have interests and those interests don't always agree and there's going to be conflicts. You know, it's just what happens. I don't understand what the, whatever when you know, oh gosh, this is the worst thing ever.

You're an American. Who cares? I mean, if we, you know, if the United States has to go into, you know, Mexico to stop cartels, which they've done. Or if, you know, have to go into Canada to basically stop communism, which may have to one day, because that's just going to get closer and closer here and just infect us in ways that we won't, we can't foresee now, then, and I'm kind of kidding about the Canada thing. people just have to really open up their eyes and start and get get off of this um you know what's what san franc i mean how many times have has the united states invaded Haiti i mean what a dozen

have a dozen a lot well i mean look look how much we get from Haiti like 10,000 migrants pouring over the border in one day oh i mean they're all going to be locked do you're lawyers and doctors Pete, you know, like, yeah. Like George Fett and all astronauts? Yeah, exactly. What he could have been. We just, then we can have murals every place the United States invades. You can, every place the global homo invades and the GAE invades will have, um, murals of

Haitians pouring over the border. I mean, people, you know, we're, we're making fun of this now, but this is the, this is literally insane. It's literally insane that we have to, we can make jokes about this. because this is what exists in reality. Well, and this is, this is where libertarians fall apart. Like,

you know, the whole libertarians are open borders. Like borders are illegitimate, bro. Like, no, the border is just a collective property of, you know, as Hans would say,

like the net tax payer collective ownership of the borders is, you know, like, it just is, right? You know, like you don't get to invade my house. And there's such things as externalities.

And so libertarianism deals very poorly with these sorts of things. And again, you know, I'm sure you've seen it, but basically, if you have an IQ below a certain threshold, you can't entertain hypotheticals. So, Pete, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning? Hungry. Okay, yeah.

You can entertain that hypothetical because you're not a moron. But there's substantial percentage of the population, and those unfortunately are not uniformly distributed across all ethnic groups, where. But I did eat breakfast this morning. But yeah, but how would you feel if you hadn't? You know, like they literally can't entertain that hypothetical. Yeah. And in a large numbers of Haitians literally can't entertain that hypothetical of like, but I didn't eat bread, you know, but I did.

And so the idea that like they're going to equally compete in a free market that is, I mean, rapidly, you know, low-skill labor is being replaced by robots and, uh, forced labor, you know, like, and judge labor from Spain, or not from Spain, but from Hispanic countries. Like this person's never going to compete. Never. In a million years, this person is never going to hold a economically viable job. And libertarians, too many of them.

Well, frankly, they're just wakes, right? You know, Thomas Jefferson, who, you know, is in many ways admirable, like, probably was smoking a little bit. You know, it'd be really cool, man. If everybody was equal. And then, oh, wow, you know, yeah, if everyone was like an autistic 170 IQ aristocrat, yeah, that would work, bro. But look outside. That's not how it works. And most people just, most libertarians, either they grow up and, like, realize that the world isn't that way.

And actually, you know, I've used this formulation before. Only, you know, libertarians are some very Anglo philosophy. Almost no one on the continent actually, you know. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design. They move you. Even before you drive.

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But no one outside of like Hans the territories or maybe Mediterranean mercantile or even begins the entertaining idea. But libertarianism, is just the natural ideology of armed white guys amongst themselves. So if you're a Duke and I'm a Duke, and we both have our own families and our own arms and our own bros, that with, hey, it's, you know, Pete's giving me a hard time. Fellas, let's go remind Pete that we have teeth too.

And then Pete goes, oh, T's giving me a hard time, boys, it's time to go saddle up. Then all of a sudden, we're, you know, there's 50 guys on either. side of this line going, do you really want to? And we're just going, oh, God, you know, that'd be expensive and a paining ass and I might get stabbed. So let's just figure out a way to work this out. And then you do.

And you don't interfere because why would I bother you? It's expensive and it's mostly irrelevant, right? Right. And there's no one, and there's no one really to profit from it. Right. No one's profiting from this. Exactly. And so the problem is, is that, you know, libertarians want to pretend that that everyone's the same.

And they're just not. And once you accept that, like libertarianism goes out the window or becomes a suicidal ideology. Talking about how people have different, different IQs, they can't, they just can't think. I mean, the way I look at it is they're very programmable. So, you know, you have this ideology of all men are created equal. We're going to have basically an open, open society. And then communism comes along, you know, in Europe. You start, it's being formulated.

And now it's a quote unquote coherent ideology. And social engineers, people with, you know, people with high IQs, but who are devious, who are not on our side, take that. And they use it to program the people with the 80 and 90 IQs because the people with the 80 and 90 IQs are going to be like, oh, yeah, why are those people up there with the 130s and 140s doing so well? Why shouldn't I be more like them? Oh, this ideology tells me that we're all equal and that we should all be on the same playing field. And if those people up there with the 130s and 140s don't agree, we should just kill them. I mean, that sounds like that's very hip.

historical and it also sounds like something that most people who are on the libertarian side or even the conservative side, the civic nationalist side, would not like yet they defend, yet they defend a system that allows it. Right. Well, and okay, so your race war in high school series has been both depressing and outstanding. And I have to thank you for turning down to particular book. It's a gold mine of resources. Rose Pinotche saw someone posting about it on Twitter. She pointed out and said, hey, find this book. And I'm like, it's $600. And then somebody in the private chat found a PDF of it. And it was like, all right, let's start reading this. Yeah. Anyway, but,

okay, so just use this neighborhood as an example. Okay. in mind two facts. This is a couple years ago, but current. I couldn't find it again if I tried, but I, I swear, I found a thing that said, the average like black gal was 1885 pounds at age 18. Now, this was like 2019 or 2018, but reasonably recent number.

Okay. Hispanic girls were like 165, white girls were like, 140 Asian girls were like 110. Okay. So if you have an environment like those Bronx schools where you're told you're equal, you're equal, the only thing that keeping you down is racism every day by the culture, by the news, by your teachers, everyone, right?

And you show up and you're poorer than your white classmates. the white girls are prettier than the black girls. The white girls are skinnier than the black girls. They have intact families. You don't. You work lower class jobs than they do. If you just have all of these inequities and the only explanation that you have

that you've been told at all is racism, that's just a disaster waiting to happen. Whereas if you were honest about these things, well, no, I mean, for these reasons, reasons and some biological, some cultural, these different outcomes happen, then you could, then you could actually come to some sort of motives of Vendee, maybe, but certainly not, you know, when, when you're told all the time that the only explanation is racism. It just doesn't make, it, it's just guaranteed to induce violent resentment.

Yeah, and that's where the social engineers, that, yes, the social engineers that are doing this. Right. And E. Michael Johnson has done some outstanding work on social engineering. Yes, he has. A big fan of his work, particularly, particularly slaughter of cities. But, right, I mean, just think about that for just a second. Okay, if the average girl, you average, we're not talking dead on bag average at age 18 is 1885 pounds. And you're constantly exposed to other women from other groups.

and you're told all the time that oh, secretly they like your group but they don't actually and they're slimmer and they're more feminine and they're and they bake and they do all this other stuff

that women are supposed to do and you're constantly told like oh no, the reason all of this stuff happened. Of course you're going to get this outstanding, ridiculous resentment. If you're told, oh, you guys are just the same and the only reason they throw you in jail in mass numbers is this

racism, not. Okay, well, you know, for reasons that are complicated due to biology and absent fathers and this and then the other, you know, whatever. If we had a, if we had a real academic establishment, right, you know, supposedly, you know, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge, at Co-Politoch University of Chicago, Caltech, right? It's the greatest collection of, you know, brains, knowledge, you know, the great libraries, communications, all of that stuff. If it was all like the modern university system, basically they suck up everybody with an IQ above 130, and they shuffled them into these places.

If they were really honest, they'd ask these questions, and they'd come to some kind of conclusion of like, okay, well, this is why this happens. And yet it never does. Why? Why? Why is, you know, there are certain, like, certain people who are alt-re with the establishment,

who've been writing journals for 30 years that should be, you know, high quality academic journals. But those academic journals aren't asking those actual relevant questions because they're more interested in social engineering than they aren't finding out the truth. Which is how you get people listening to this program is they're like, well, wait a second. This doesn't sound exactly right. And then they end up down the rabbit hole where they're listening to you and me. So if this lack of truth about key issues across the board causes major problems that are basically intractable, you really have no choice but to like secede from the system because the system is not going to let like Pete Quinonez on meet the press to tell. Like, you should.

You know, you produce a very high quality program. You should be the guy, you know, debating Luke Resert. And, you know, Luke Restor's just there because his dad was a good reporter, one upon a time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, and that's specifically where we're at right now. And, you know, we can jump into talking about, you know, building, building something parallel to it. because it's reached a point where they're just not going to allow it to happen.

There aren't going to be dissident voices aren't going to be allowed on, you know, you, I mean, I don't believe that Elon Musk is saving Twitter. I think it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be shortly we're going to see Twitter go back to the way it was. You know, I would like to have one of my old accounts back, but that would be, I mean, I don't even count on that. But what you do see is you see that people are, the people who are complaining the most about Trump are people who are. You catch them in the corner of your eye.

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is going to be allowed on the platform and not only counter to the narrative, because there are plenty of us putting information counters to the narrative out there, but people with, you know, large followings like, you know, E. Michael Jones is back on. Jared Taylor, we'll see if Jared Taylor gets back on there. You know, people who are saying, well, this didn't happen because of the free market. This happened because it was forced upon. on us and you know and some of them even name names and that's something that they just cannot allow because um you know somebody somebody made the point in a in a response to um a response to Elon Musk was that you know when when right wing you know right wing opinions are basically

normal their nature they come from nature people who consider themselves be right wing are mostly normal people. Left wing is so out, left wing thought, progressive thought especially, is so far out of the mainstream, out of the ordinary, away from nature,

that they need other voices to be suppressed so that people can believe that it's the norm. Yeah, no, that's completely true. Like a dude in the dress is, it's ridiculous. right i'm supposed to pretend that bruce jenner like do you all remember the

1976 olympics this dude's won the most difficult he was the greatest athlete in the world he won the tracathlons it's it's the hardest thing to do you have to be good at like literally 10 different things and they're and they're wildly different he was the greatest athlete in the world as a dude and i'm supposed to pretend he's a pretty woman now that he's in his 60s? No. You know, Steve Saylor had that, have that like,

nailed, oh, 20 years ago. And he was like, no, this guy's just a narcissist. And he had a whole taxonomy of these people. But because, you know, even knowing the name, Steve Saylor is enough to get you in trouble these days, but, you know, you don't want to talk about somebody that should be more widely respected. You mentioned Jared Taylor.

There's, and Steve Saylor is just one of the nicest people. He's going to have, if, if you're debatable. him he's going to be polite he's just going to give you the facts he's not there he's not a bomb throw he's not like me i mean he's or me yeah yeah he's just literally he's just literally a sweet guy who likes spreadsheets he doesn't lie that's all he is it's like well but but the math says this it's like well yeah but steve that's mean it's like well but the math says and it's

literally just you've gone but the math says but the spreadsheet like i i can look into the spreadsheet and see if someone mess with it, but, you know, basically this is the way it goes. And that's all that happened is, is, you know, those people, and I've made this point elsewhere, but, but it's worth repeating. Basically,

um, uh, Pat Buchanan, maybe even anyone, you know, Pap Buchanan was like a normal dude in 1992, right? Heck, even Donald Trump in 2016 was just like Bill Clinton in,

1996. Right. Anyone to the right of that? So basically all of political history up until, I don't know, 2011, when was the Obergefell decision? Right? Like everything up to

then is now like in the hate bunker and you're a Nazi. Right? Like if you believe that like, I don't know, Bruce Jenner's a dude and that children need a family and that it is child abuse to expose children to men and dresses and that people who do things like mutilate children

should at a bare minimum face a very steep line and have those children taken away versus now like in Canada it's normal like if you are a parent and you're one of your children gets brainwashed into thinking that the opposite gender the state will take away your children from you. That's how, that's, that's, that's madness. That is madness. And the problem we have is fundamentally conservatives believe in institutions and like, oh, well, you know, like this is, no, no, no, no. At this point, you know, the whole thing is illegitimate. It's a scam. Right. It's a scam. I was talking with a relative at Thanksgiving and, you know, he's a, you catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design.

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Moder Republican type and not very happy with the way the post-Trump party. And I pointed out like in 08, you know, a bunch of people who were against Bush's wars voted for, you know, a brown socialist who knew lots of, you know, who grew up in Muslim countries. And what do we get? We got a massive bailout. Like Goldman Sachs picked his cabinet. And he bombed more. people than George W. Bush. I mean, every American president up in my entire lifetime, and I'm in my mid-40s, has been a war criminal with the possible exception of Jimmy Carr.

I mean, how insane is that? Yeah. Like, they're literally all war criminals, all of them. And, you know, Oh, Nancy Pelosi just made $100 million for no reason whatsoever. Get out of here. Ridiculous. You know, I've made the longest serving Republican Speaker of the House was Dennis Hastert. And there was a shining moment there right after Bush won where there was 55 Republican senators, the House of Representatives, and a conservative Christian president. What did we get as conservative Christians? Oh, wait a minute. Nothing.

Not a Rowe-B-Wade repeal, not school choice. Nothing. Why? Well, because the Speaker of the House was a pedophile. And neither side will talk about it. Neither side will bring it up. If you bring it up, Darrell, Darrell Cooper from the Martyr Made podcast said recently, he saw someone bring that up in an interview recently. And someone was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. How do you forget about that? How do you forget that the third in line, you know, the second in line to the presidency, was a pedophile. Yeah.

I mean, and not just, not just that. But, I mean, how long has everyone known Paul Pelosi's a closet case? This was not on my 2020 bingo card.

I mean, it makes sense, I guess. But like, how compromise are these people? Who, you know, is our friend Ryan Dawson has done?

He's done outstanding work. Who exactly was on that plane? Mm-hmm. How many, people went. Have you ever, have you ever read the flight logs? Oh my gosh. It's really creepy.

Well, even when you look at the people who are on there, where you'll, one flight will have Jeffrey Epstein, Elaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and one female. There's no name. How do you have flight logs where you don't put someone's name on it? All you put is one female. I mean I can't be the only one who sees that and it's like

the FAA the FAA pours over these light locks yeah and they didn't say well what's the name of the female okay if I want to get on an airplane and go visit you

right In order to buy my ticket, they have to have my name, my ID number, a credit card with my name on it, that's effectively a second form of ID. I get to the airport. They check my ID not once, not twice, but three separate times when I check my bags, add security, and when I get on the airplane. Yeah. Yeah, but if you.

And I'm just a dude. who's like, like, I'm, I'm going to Florida to revisit my buddy. I'm not some, you know, like I'm not, you know, this is not, this is not some nefarious plot. It's like I'm doing what every American has done, you know, like, I'm going to Florida in January because it's warm and also my buddy lives there. This is not some nefarious like, I'm going to a private island where lots of really rich people hang out. Like, no, this isn't anything nefarious.

And yet, you know, IDs have to be checked multiple times and, and, and, and, you know, and, you And, you know, massive security state needs to come down on you and, God forbid, you accidentally forget to take out a pocket knife out of your pocket or something like that. But, but Jeffrey Epstein can get on a plane with a female. Come on. You know, and. And so, you know, why would everyone pick Trump? Because they were so sick of this system that was obviously screw. them that they picked a bomb thrower.

And it turns out that he wasn't so great, but that's a whole separate discussion. And so, you know, the system isn't going to reform itself. The system isn't going to save itself. You know, I still, in many respects, am, you know, that libertarian guy that, that, you know, came into this sort of space from, like, radical Second Amendment prepping type stuff like Western Rifle shooters or, you know, the high, wrote, you know, gun stuff and, um, uh, Mike Vanderbaw, things like that. Right.

And just to illustrate this one more time, right? So you're old enough and I'm old enough to remember that, that, uh, when, oh, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush are buddies, or H.W. Bush are buddies. They smoke a cocaine in Arkansas and they kill kids was like a crazy person thing that you only heard at like two in the morning in 1990. like Art Bell, right? Right? And then, you know, after it's too late to do anything about it,

they make a movie starring Tom Cruise saying, hey, yeah, that's get so crazy person was right back in 1994, saying that Bill Clinton and, you know, it was all cave, and that these guys actually do smuggle cocaine in, I mean, Arkansas. Like, you know, holy. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You know, like, you're admitting.

And so this system is going to fall apart because there's the $19 trillion or whatever, $20 trillion or however many trillion dollars of U.S. federal debt. There's the same again in private credit card debt and everything else because that's what people have been using to keep ahead or keep even is they're basically going into debt. But then there's all the unfunded liabilities. And it's just not going to get paid, man. It's just not. You know, so the libertarians are completely right about that.

the system just is going to fall apart. There's no way, none, that this is going to get paid off. So what do you do, right? Because obviously the ballot boxes, you can do. Right? Because everything up until now is just a complete black pill. And, you know, unfortunately people think, and especially libertarians are very, very guilty of this, as they have their way that they're going to get from A to B, from A to C.

Of course, they never talk about B, but they're going to get to C. And if you don't 100% agree with the way they're doing it, you're blackpilled, no matter how many, no matter how many solutions you're presenting them. So let's talk a little bit about solutions. Okay. I'm going to, you're familiar with the consultant's triangle? You could have something good, good, cheap, or fast? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Well, America, or actually rather, car dependent societies with adequate amounts of diversity. So you can, this can also apply to Canada and increasingly to places in England and Western Europe. But they force you into a trilemma too. Most people want to live someplace ideally, right? Ideal world. Pete lives close to work,

someplace that's affordable, and someplace that's safe. Right, your ideal world is like, if you have to work for somebody else, you roll out of bed at 645, you grab a cup of coffee and a shower, you walk downstairs, and it's a three blocks walk to your, you know, nice office.

you walk home at lunch and you know you walk home so get a little bit exercise you don't really have to spend any time out of your day uh and it's not that bad and it's safe and uh the other rents yeah you know a thousand bucks a month something reasonable well you've you've lived in new York City, you've lived in Atlanta, you've lived in other places. That's not how it works at all, right? Like, not at all. Like, so in New York, New York is a great example. There are really wealthy places in New York that are really safe, really, really safe. No problem whatsoever.

They're going to cost you probably at like a bare minimum, $450,000, $500 a year to live there. Sure. Absolutely. So you've got to have a huge amount of money. Right. Right. So. And then you can't really do anything against the system because you catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you. Even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon and Teramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade in boosters of up to two. thousand euro. Search Coopera and discover our latest offers. Coopera. Design that moves. Finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply. Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Trading as Cooper Financial Services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa. Savor sumptuous farm-fresh dining. Relax

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If you speak out too vocifically about something, you could lose that job that, that 450,000-dollar-year job that enables you to live on the Upper West Side and have your nice, easy commute into the final district and make huge amounts. money. So you destroy your life if you, if you say anything too interesting or too true in that sort of situation. Then you have some place like Atlanta where most people choose

someplace they can afford and someplace that's safe, particularly if you're like married and have kids. You do not want your children going to, you know, the race for in high school school, where there's a pretty decent chance that your kid's going to get stabbed on this way to the bus. You just, you're just not going to do that. And so you get Atlanta traffic, which, you know, I mean, forget the stakes. It's like people are commuting from four states into Atlanta. They're, you know, eastern Tennessee. I, uh, with a friend of mine.

Northern Alabama. Yeah. A friend of mine who worked who lived outside of Atlanta, uh, you know, lived more rural, but worked in Atlanta, but worked in Atlanta. Uh, we sat down and did the math on at one time and he spends, um, almost two months a year in his car going back and forth to work. Yes. I mean, that's not.

That's not a life. No. No, it's insane. And in fact, I mean, that's why this whole, this whole thing exists. The phenomenon of the podcast is, is, you know, someone who is reasonably intelligent, said, if I hear this freaking journey song one more time, I'm going to lose my mind. And so the podcast was born because, so you've got, you know, your buddy probably goes,

through an audio, like a big, like he can go through war and peace on his daily commute in like a month, you know, like in two weeks, you know, like at one time speed. We're not talking to a dude who listens at two and a half or twice speed with skip silence and the whole, you know, speeding everything up. We're talking about a dude who's like listening at one time speed going, it was the best of times. It was the worst of time. Like, he's going to go through that entire book, thousand pages and it's better than welcome to the Fox 100.7 where we still pretend this 1978 and you still have hair

you know like it's better than that and it's that's hellish you know and I suppose I did except that I have any notoriety at all it's because I have done the podcast thing and so I suppose I should be grateful that there's all these people who are stuck in traffic listening to me but it's insane it's absolute madness And then once he gets home, right, you've got these suburbs that are organized along this,

this kind of cul-de-sac street pattern. There's no central square. There's no pub for him to stop by after work. One of the best things about living in the big city, right, is you had a regular bar where you could go grab a drink after work and then walk home. Well, you know, the only, only quote-unquote collective place where this guy has anything is a mall. And if he starts talking about how they're all getting screwed and his ridiculously, that they're spending two months a day, you know, two months out of the year in his car,

and he hates it, and he never sees his family, and he only has one kid because he doesn't even have time to, you know, like, talk to his wife, let alone have more kids, you know, whatever. All these legit real grievances this friend of yours has, he's going to get trespassed out of the mall. So there's no public space. There's no way to organize. There's no, I mean, you know, and of course, because since it's not walkable, since everything requires a car, you know, if you want to have a meeting with 500 people, where are you going find a parking lot with 500 spaces.

You know, so that makes it impossible to organize. Or you could have that other option where it's affordable and it's close to work, but you're going to get stabbed. How do you organize in, you know, race warrant high school neighborhood? You knock on the doors. You know, hi, I'm Mr. Canonis. I'm your neighbor. You know, this thing is happening and, uh, we're getting screwed and, you know,

they're going to destroy the neighborhood. You know, you might get some people interested. Odds are pretty good, though. You know, if you do that for a week straight, you're going to get stabbed or robbed. So you're not going to organize. You can't because there's no coherent community and it's mutually hostile. So we have this trilemma of you can't organize because it would cost you your job that, you know, cost you the very nice life.

I mean, it would be very nice to make, you know, 500. thousand dollars a year and live on Upper West Side and have a chauffeur and all that other stuff make huge amounts money private planes to the Bahamas whatever um you know if you have a family like your poor poor buddy who's spending you know a month and a half or two months in the car every you know that's no life either how's how's he's getting screwed and but how's he gonna organize with people there's no what there's nowhere to organize it's been deliberately set up that way. And then lastly, you know, you could, you could move into, you know, the old neighborhood that you grew up in. It's, it's diverse and start rabble-dousing. But there's a pretty good chance

you get shot. And so under present conditions, there's just no way to fight back. So how do you secede? Because that's the only option you've got. And that's where I think something like colony makes sense. And, you know, COVID might be the thing that broke these people. Just like the internet was like, oh, well, this will be, this is a cool project and DOD is going to do a bunch of stuff with it and we'll be able to send orders and inventive it nuclear holocaust. It'll be great.

You know, the internet might be what breaks the system, but this COVID tyranny, as bad as it was, And I thank you personally for being very strong on this one. You know, you're, well, it's really what took my, it's really what made me start reading outside of libertarianism and going, yeah, I mean, not only does libertarianism not solve this problem because they don't have the power to or the will to. They're being openly mocked. And I don't mind being mocked if I know. I'm wrong, if I know I'm right, but I looked at what they were saying and it's like, well, yeah, yeah. You know, that's one problem that, in one of the biggest problems I had with libertarianism is I can't remember who I heard say it, but they said, if you believe that your ideology is an ideology

that's going to stop war, increase human flourishing, and basically be, you know, a thousand times better than what we have now, and you're not doing everything in your power to make it happen in the real world, then you're immoral. You're immoral. I mean, look at the progressives. I mean, the progressives are completely anti-human, but they're doing it. They believe what they're, you know, what they believe, they're like, okay, this is for all of mankind. and this is how we go forward into the future. And they're making it. And they're kicking our butts.

And so I just got to say that, you know, like your fourth, you know, like your willingness to stand up against this and not say, well, but my craft a company or whatever. Nope, nope. This is inhuman. It's evil. It's terrible. Here I stand. I can go no further.

You know, I really appreciate that. That's, it's, it's, we need more people who are willing to do that. And I got to give Tom Wood some credit to. He's been outstanding about this sort of issue. but regardless the remote work revolution okay a couple things are going to happen because of this that I just we're not even going to see the full effect

until probably next year the year after first of all those big office towers they're never going to be full again never I mean the commercial real estate is going to take a hit like you wouldn't believe and the margins were thin enough that know, taking a five, 10, even a 15 or 20% hit is going to make a lot of people lose a lot of money.

Property taxes, sales taxes, those are all down significantly. I don't know if they'll ever recover. So that's a lot of the benefits of like living in the big city. Like those are going to go away. And this digital revolution, you know, like, between. Between Netflix and like decent craft beer available at every store, why would you need to go to home? Right? Like you've got a television in the size of a wall that is like if that's your thing, like the football players are taller on your TV than they are in real life.

And these guys are all, you know, six six, three hundred pounds. And, you know, for for a thousand dollars, you can go down to Best Buy and you can get a television that's that, you know, the size of a movie screen. I mean, I think that's a really bad use of your time, but if that's you, I guess, go for it. So, right, we have all these options now. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design.

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You know, we're having this massive diesel shortage. Well, America runs on diesel trucks. If you've ever been on the highways at 2 in the morning, there's nothing but truckers and, you know, people with odd things going on. Well, those places aren't going to, those car dependent suburbs where everything is delivered to Walmart at 2 in the morning by a diesel powered, you know, big rig, that's not going to last. What it's going to last, and James Howard Kunst was talked about this quite a bit is, you know, the revivifying America's small towns. If you've got a small town with like a railhead or on some kind of river, you're going to be able to still get food cheap, right?

you know, food is bulky and you absolutely have to have it. So it's pretty unique in terms of logistics and stuff, you know, you need it on a fairly constant basis. It's bulky. You know, you're going to have to move to places that enable you to have, to not be dependent on diesel as much as, say, you know, the outskirts of Atlanta are. And this remote work revolution is going to let you do that. I'm going to sketch out a couple things that I think would be good ideas.

Find a small, first of all, find some bros. You know, find four or five or six trustworthy families where you're like, okay, these people know the score and they're willing to help prep. And, you know, like they're on the same page. They're not going to get jabbed. You know, if someone's, if someone's going to get jabbed, they'll, they fold it on their family. They'll fold on you. I wouldn't trust them, honestly.

They believe the regime narrative that they're never going to. That's a separate discussion. Okay. So you find some people that are trustworthy and, and not like a commune sort of thing, because that, that'll devolve. But, but you do a couple things in common. All right. All the guys should be lifting.

So maybe you get half a dozen guys and you throw up one of those like sheds that, you know, Best Buy Sell is for $10,000. Everybody throws a couple grand in and you throw in, uh, three grand for weights. You know, and you get a really nice weight set up. And, uh, you know, everyone's paying $100 a month anyway for gym membership.

So you cancel that. everyone pulls in the $500 a month. And in two years, you've paid for your gym and you've got this structure that's mostly paid off. And you know, it's 6 o'clock every morning everybody's working out. All right.

Everyone's in good shape. It's a capital good that everybody owns. You get the building. Well, you know, there's a pretty nice ones out there, these small little or maybe pre-manufactured steel building. I don't know what they cost anymore. It's been a while since I cost one of those out.

But you've got this space and, you know, all five guys, you know, everybody's got two kids. So there's 10 kids. And maybe Jimmy's wife, she's a schoolteacher, but she doesn't like what's been going on with, you know, the CRT and the schools. And, you know, the state's going to give you $1,500 a person, $1,500 a person, $1,500 a kid. kid to homeschool. So 10 kids, $1,500. It's $15,000. Your school teacher's salary was, you know, 25, but she doesn't need the second car with a car insurance and she's got more time at home and all of a sudden Jimmy's wife is teaching, you know,

at the Hoppean Academy, you know, in your weight room upstairs. And, and maybe, you know, Timmy's wife, is able to do a couple different subjects or whatever. You know, yeah, and your, your point about the homeschools being, you know,

taken over by people who are being outnumbered by public school kids is, is well taken. I'm just, uh, you just can't put your kids in public school right now. Oh, yeah. And I've said that over and over again.

And I'm like, yeah, homeschool, but that's not going to be, that's not going to save the future. Right. Yeah. Well,

lo and behold, right? You know, five days a week, it's like the weight room at 6 o'clock. And by 7.30, it's the school. And maybe two of you guys have, you know, remote jobs where you get a laptop job where you can just go into your office, you know, and maybe you guys build an office, you know, one other one of these shed type places. And you build an office with, you know, decent internet.

And it's quiet. And, you know, a couple of the, a couple of one of the guys, a couple of the guys get like one of those big panel vans and they commute into the nearest or near a small town or you're in a small town and you're able to, you know, have a couple of guys working in the nearby small town for not much wages, but but enough to keep a roof over their head. But, you know, they end up knowing a farmer and you guys buy it, do a group buy of a cow. right so our society is fake fake rich you know we're not as you know you've probably been reading about the coming collapse of the dollar for the last 25 years like I have um and and all those critiques have been accurate you know that they just managed to keep the system going through you know fiat and central banking and frankly to get a ban into the EU as military and the world's financial back.

But all of that stuff is necessary is still true. So if you have this alternative system where everyone, you know, like everyone goes in on a cow together, you have a relationship with that farmer. And maybe you can have,

uh, maybe you do something like, I don't know, got a couple IT guys and you'll maintain his spreadsheets for him in exchange for a deal on the beef. or maybe your guys that are working in town are able to collectivize certain things like driving together. Maybe everyone does the extreme coupon anything. Maybe everyone goes to Costco at the same time and one of these big vans. But we're not as rich as we think we are. And so things like heating water, I think some relatively boring.

but up until the 20th century really, heating water wasn't an individual activity. It was a communal activity. Laundromats were, because getting water hot is really energy intensive, really energy intensive. And so, heating 100 gallons of water,

collectively, was much more efficient than 10 people heating 10 gallons of water to do laundry. And so things like laundry and bathing were, collective activities up until the 20th century in America. And because we're not as rich as we think we are, a lot of those sorts of things are going to have to come back. So maybe you get a couple of speed queens. And in the gym, you've got power hookups for laundry and you do, everyone just does their laundry in the speed queen. People are going to have to understand that, you know, whatever,

Whatever else is going on. C.R.T. in the schools, the obvious mental incapacitated in the, in the White House, Congress being a complete joke. I mean, it's been a complete joke my entire life, but, you know, it's still even more of a joke now, right? That doesn't stop you from doing what's necessary in your own private life. And people need to stop caring.

So, I mean, pay attention to it. Just like you pay attention to, you know, a rabid dog that's chained up across. the street. Pay attention to it. But don't make that the focus of everything you're doing. So if there's things you can do to make yourself collectivize, maybe one of the guys, you know, did a couple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he can help you guys learn how to shoot. Maybe you've got enough land that, you know, you can put a couple cows on it and all of a security shack and everyone does, you know, if there's 10, 10 guys, maybe each guy does one night a

week where he's just going to have to suck it up and he does, you know, he gets home at five, grabs a bike, he takes a nap and from midnight to, you know, or, you know, 11 to 6, he's in the guard shack. Maybe, maybe those 10 families, all of you guys get together and purchase playground equipment for your kids. And it's behind a nice tall fence. So there's no one, who's trying to grooms to your kids, who's, you know, checking out the playground. But, you know, our enemies kick our butts not because they're better than us. They're obviously not. I mean, they're pathetic weirdos.

They kick our butts because they work together. And we need to start doing the same. I mean, that's really what people need to do. DE, you don't believe in individual Liberty? Liberty is a mutual contract between men who agree to respect one or another's property rights in order to have liberty. You have to have a manor-bund. It has to be mediated in order to have liberty.

It has to be defined within certain limits. I don't think individual liberty extends as far as the ability to sexually abuse children. and I think that that should be stopped. So, no, you do not believe in individual liberty as some people would believe it. Yeah, it's, the ideas that you're throwing out here, they're very basic. I mean, I even have, I mean, I can go further, you know, we can start approaching Dunbar's number. And, I mean, you can have your own finance. You can have your own banking.

You know, you can you can do what the Jews have been doing for how many, how many thousands, you know, for how many thousands of years and basically exclude everybody else from your, you know, from your, from your, from your, from your profits, from what, what, what, what, yeah, it's worked out well for them, you know, they run everything. So. Yeah. I mean, if you have, if you have 120 people and somebody wants to start a business and it's going to cost $50,000 and a hundred of those people.

give up $500 of their own money, that person doesn't have to go to the bank. Now that person can start the business, has the money to start the business. And $500 for a brother in the community, I'm not even going to expect to see that money back. Maybe if it's a service, you know, if it's an HVAC company, you know, and I need some HVAC work done, I'll pay for the parts. You'll take care of the labor. You can do things like that. But keeping money in the community, you know. being insular like that.

I mean, these are things people don't even think about, which can actually be done. And it doesn't have to operate like, you know, like the branch Divideons where you're all living in the same house. You just be living in the same general area. No. Well, so have I, I know you've heard this before, but have I explained, do you think I need to make the whole why the suburbs are doomed explanation real quick? Do you think, well, do you think Tim did a good job? I think he did an excellent job. Everyone should listen to that show.

But briefly, do it real quick. Do it real quick. Yeah. Briefly as I possibly can. There are blocks on Manhattan where there's more economic activity in that one block than whole countries elsewhere in the world. So putting in things like fiber and sewer and whatever is cheap. You can skim just a fraction of a percentage up the top. And they can have all the nicest stuff with absolutely no real problem to the running of that particular block. And big cities work that way by having just so much stuff going on that a little tiny percentage for things like streets and sewer and water and internet and what have you.

Easy. Farms and small towns work by concentrating all the stuff in one spot. So no one cares about the back 40 having really sweet internet or really good, you know, water pressure. It just doesn't matter because there's no water pressure out there. You put a barbed wire fence up and that's it. And all the resources of that farm kind of flow to that house. So if the suburbs require immense amounts of pipe and in streets and everything, but there's no return in investment, there's no capital accumulation in that suburb. It's just a pure deadweight loss.

And, you know, the episode that Tim did with Pete was excellent. And I encourage everyone to listen to that. But basically, there's no way that house pays you back. Right. You know, in Pete's tree acres outside of Atlanta, if it wasn't for the fact that people just say that this house is worth $350,000, what about that house makes it worth $350,000? Is there like a really great farm attached to it where you're going to it grow food? Is there a business underneath the apartment that, you know, returns money? Is it an

apartment in a building that's full of apartments that you, you know, you own? Is there, is there some sort of capital return to owning that house? Or is it a pure dead bit lost? Because in order to get food there, you have to have a truck that delivers food to the local Walmart and you have to drive your SUV, you know, from the house on Petrie Acres to Walmart and bring food back. And, you know, there's very little return on investment in any one of these places. And so that's why they're fundamentally not a place that can sustain itself because it's just a net capital alflow all the time. And as things get tighter,

that those margins are going to get smaller. So we need to find ways and places that return capital to us. And even if it's just like I'm not paying out anymore for food and it's staying internal. And this is why that laptop job is so important, right? Because then you can have that, you know, that source of capital from outside that comes in in substantial numbers to circulate internally. And once that money comes in, it shouldn't go back out again. So is the HVAC guy going to make as much as the laptop guy? Probably not.

But what he can do is you can do all the HVAC for all the different guys who are working in laptop jobs. And he can make a decent living, you know, maybe doing HVAC and then be a little plumbing or what. what have you within this Dunbar's Numeric community. Maybe there's a guy who's the farmer who has, you know, 20 had a cattle. And every year, you know, like everyone just gets their cattle from that guy. And as you accumulate capital, right, not only are you building trust in internal, internal relationships and, but you're not constantly paying out. And you think about how much time you would get back.

Let's just use this hypothetical example of this gym, it's put up in this pre-manufactured steel building and one of these, you know, shed type places. Okay. Oh, maybe the homeschool out grows. You get a new building. But upstairs, uh,

there's, you know, a couple of couches, some, some nice lights, uh, and, you know,

a good bunch of bookshelves and everything, uh, Hans Herman Hoppe ever wrote. It's just sitting there. And then you guys got a library. You got a, a base book library for all the fellas in the community. And, oh, hey.

You know, and everybody, you know, rather than everyone having to have copies of, you know, democracy that God that failed me, there's five copies. And, you know, Wednesday night, instead of watching hockey, not the hockey, you know, sad the way the NHL's gone woke, but I was, I would, I had hopes that the NHL would stay above it.

But maybe you guys all read democracy the guy that fails. Maybe everybody reads AA's book. You know, they, and, you know, if you have 120 families, right, that's enough to buy a politician at the statehouse level, or at least rent one. And you can do that, you know, if you cooperate. And maybe you could get things like homeschooling pushed. Maybe you could get something like, you know, actually the state's going to pay, you know, the state pays $10,000, say, for ease of math.

The state pays $10,000 per student for public schools. We're just going to give that $10,000 to the families. All of a sudden, if you have five kids in school, your wife's making $50 grand. Now, a bunch of that's going to get used on piano lessons and karate lessons and math textbooks and all that other stuff. But she doesn't need to work anymore. if she's getting paid to raise your kids. And before the libertarians say, oh,

that's immoral to use state money to, look, dude, your enemies use state money to, to convince children that they're the opposite sex, and then use state resources to mediate them. Either use the stick in front of you or get it used on you.

I'm sorry, that's just the way it goes. I mean, you had that one meme that was hilarious, but also painfully true of like, you know, the spike, baseball bat of state power, right?

Yeah. And the tranny picks it up and slams it and crushes the head of the guy with the Ancap shirt on because the guy with the Ancap shirt on is so morally, so morally consistent, you know, while, you know, half of them are, over half of them are atheists. So they're hanging on to this morality that has no basis in reality. But yeah, they get to remain consistent. They get to keep their identity and they get the in-group doesn't make fun of them for being a stateist. Yeah, that's all of that.

That sounds so much better than actually thriving and having a prosperous life and taking care of your family. You got to wonder if, and you got to wonder how many of these people who are like this. The acar-kists of the world. They don't have families. What happens when? I have people who contact me all the time and they're like, yeah, I used to think just like, you know, just like these ideologues on Twitter. Up until the time I had kids and then I was like, okay, I will do, I will do ungodly things to protect them. And you should?

Yeah. And you're not doing, you know, you're not being immoral. taking money from a system that spreads usury, sodomy and abortion all over the world. I mean, that's what USA stands for. Look at what they're doing in the World Cup right now, right? Like, not, you know,

the importance isn't like the sport of soccer or the little global community come together and enjoy this sport together. No, what, what are they doing? Like, they're making it all about Qatar is mean to the gays. How is that my problem? Yeah.

Why do I care? Don't go. Don't know. You know, it's like they'll always say things like, oh, well, don't put your money into it. You know, if I'm going to boycott Netflix had cuties on, so I'm not going to get money to Netflix anymore. Well, if you're so upset about, you know, the country of Qatar and the way they treat whomever, whatever is the choice minority this week, then don't participate. But their ego can't allow it. They just can't.

And then they go there and they want to make a spectacle of themselves. And, you know, maybe they get caned like Singapore does. I mean, they get thrown in a nice, you know, prison cell where they get buggered. Well, maybe you shouldn't have went. You know, sorry. And that right there is why you lose, right? Because they're willing to go to Qatar and make a mess and be obnoxious and absolutely. And they have the full backing of the, you know, the state department and probably have the DOD.

And so like if you see a chance to get a W right out there and get a bunch of money, right? Like the teachers unions are basically just money laundering operations for the Democratic Party, right? So like any dollar you take from the public school system is a dollar that is not being actively used for evil. Even if you just burned it, it would be a better use of your money than letting the public. systems have it. And you've got to start thinking like that, right? Like, like any amount of money that goes to Montanto out of your pocket is money going towards evil.

Any amount, like, so find the local guy, right? And get your beef from him. Get your veggies from him. You know, everyone should have a garden. You know, things, things like that. You know, we have all the knowledge in the world, you know, basically at our fingertips. So, you know, I guarantee there are people listening to this right now that have a thousand ebooks on all kinds of stuff.

How to farm, how to, you know, build anything. I know, you know, a lot. I haven't actually done full county, but, but you know, a lot. And, you know, let's get those libraries shared. Let's get, you know, like storage is effectively free. Why can't you just build a local server and have your own Netflix? Call it free Netflix. Call it, you know, the neighborhood.

You know, we've got, you know, we got all the good old movies on there. There's a legit copy. It's just, oh, hey, look. boom. Hey guys, you want to watch, you know, Godfather tonight? All right, we got it for free. You know, if that's, you could, you could collectivize all this stuff. You know, and it doesn't have to be, you know, this gigantic thing that costs tens of millions of dollars. You can start with something as simple as a gym. You know, if one of your guys has a garage that he's not using very much and all of you guys are paying $50 a month. and there's four of you. Just start as small as small.

You got a group of four guys that are each paying $50 a month for a gym. It's $200 a month. The nicest gym setup you've ever seen in your life is maybe $4,000 after inflation. So for three years, you take that $50 a month and you've got that gym setup paid off. And all of a sudden, you're working out together. and you know, there's four of you, and maybe you commute to work. But it's, you know, three days a week at 5.30 in the morning, you're in Jimmy's garage. And Jimmy, Pete, Tim, and Phil are getting their pump on.

And they're talking about, oh, you know, well, this is, you know, one of the ways that we've been robbed, and I briefly mentioned this, but just common spaces and ability to talk to each other and say, you know, what's going on? how much of how much of you know the the knowledge that's you know the red pill stuff that has kind of become a thing in the last 15 years how much of that stuff was just common knowledge a hundred years ago you know that you've been robbed of and all of a sudden you know like well you know Pete Pete pays attention to this stuff so you know in between sets Pete's going you know guys this is what's going on and then oh why didn't hear that on NPRs oh the NPR's going

lie to you, man. That's what they do. And then, lo and behold, three days later, the guy reads about FTC's and going, oh, dude, Pete talked about that. And, and you have this chance to build a community and knowledge and relationships that enable you to live a better life. You know, ultimately, this, the whole point of this exercise is so that our people live better lives. I mean, you know, right now there's a lot of downside risk. But, you know, increasingly there's not going to be any upside in the system. And so how do you head that off at the path? How do you live better lives inside, you know?

And you'd start doing it by collectivizing little stuff like this. And I'm not so so arrogant. I know all the different ways that this, you know, that you could improve your life depending on where you are with your physical geography, your resources and all of the stuff. I don't know. Maybe there's a small creek by your house and you guys build a small scale hydro plan and all the sudden electricity bills go down by two thirds.

That can be done out of, you know, an old washer, you know. But be thinking about these sorts of things because the system as is presently presently is doomed to failure. Yeah. I think most people know that. And yeah, I don't, I don't know how much I expect it to, you know, just like fall apart. I mean, things like this can keep going for a while. They're just going to get weaker and weaker.

Yeah. And I'll give you more dangerous and more dangerous as to get weaker and weaker. Yeah. Well, so like I'll give you an example, like the Jackson, Mississippi water crisis, right? Like, we all know why that happened. Yeah. But this is an example of, of, you know, the system just not working anywhere. This is a collapse.

You know, cities, like, if you go bankrupt personally, right? Like Pete's diner and hash, you know, hash joint where you serves eggs and bacon and hash browns, you know, gets destroyed in COVID and pizza as well, I'm bankrupt. And I'm going to do something else now that, you know, that diner joint, it'll be, you know, Muhammad's. falafel place because there's a commercial kitchen with seating and stuff and someone else to take it over and you know the resources will get reallocated and and you'll lick your wounds and go do something else places don't go bankrupt like oh well we're just going to fold up jackson mississippi and move somewhere else no it's just going to get worse in jackson it's just like it's going to go bankrupt by not providing things like water like sewer like traffic enforcement like

as they lose ability to do certain things, they're just not going to get done. And that's going to make things really difficult in some places and present a bunch of opportunities and others. And, you know, depending on where you are in your circumstances, those things are going to change. But you're seeing that collapse already happened. So like Memphis, for instance, Memphis tripled in size.

Physical size, like, you know, it went from, you know, one sheet of paper size to three sheets of paper sized. Well, maintaining the same population, because that's how much people spread out from 1970 to like 2010. And it's just falling apart because there's not enough people there to maintain that level of infrastructure. As these, you know, the sprawl kind of comes out, it just, it's inherently fresh. and it doesn't return on investment. So, you know, where you live and how you live, the circumstance is going to change for each individual person. So I don't have, I don't have like a, this is what you need to do, prescription. But I, just think about that.

Like, is, is, is living, you know, two months out of a year in your car a same way to live? Or is he going to take like a pay cut of, you know, 20,000? thousand dollars and work a laptop job yeah and be like oh well i'm never i'm never driving anywhere ever again in my life you know i'm going to spend time with my life and my kids you know unfortunately when i lived in the atlanta area in order to do that in order to not spend that two months out of my year in a car i actually moved closer to the city so that i would have even if i worked in the city, it would be a shorter drive, but I went and found a job outside of the city, so I never had to deal with. While somebody who was coming in the opposite direction, driving the same distance,

would be in their car an hour. I was in my car 10 minutes. So getting out of the, I solved one problem and introduced another. So really the only way to solve those problems is to get the hell out of cities and get that laptop job. It really is. I mean, and I mean, at this point, I talked to a lot of people who would rather make less money and live somewhere where they didn't have to deal with all of this

than keep making the kind of money they're making, being close to a city and just getting out. I mean, I'm in a fairly, I'm in a college town right now with a, you know, one-tenth of the population of the Atlanta area, but I mean, we're looking at something that's less, that's 5% of the population than where I am right now. So it's just trying to get smaller and trying to get smaller and smaller while being able to still be able to drive to a hospital pretty quickly and possibly get to an airport within two hours. Well, and those are all calculations. Digital scum that make.

And, you know, as long as that small town is like near a railhead or on a navigable body of water, who cares, right? Because, you know, a lot of those places actually have been ignored. You know, the entire upstate Niagara Canal Network is basically just a tourist trap now. But at one time, it was the vital economic heart of America. You know, if you think about it, the Mississippi basin goes from navigable from Great Falls, Montana to Pittsburgh and a substantial way up in Nebraska. There's actually a port in Oklahoma that goes down to the Gulf of Mexico. Between that inland ocean of the Great Lakes that goes literally halfway across the continent,

you have incredibly cheap water transportation between the Erie Canal and all these other places. So as long as you're on something, as long as you're near something that's just got like rail or water transport, that's the place that's going to thrive in the future. Is these all these places that are utterly dependent on diesel trucking and highways? You know, if the highways fall apart and aren't really well maintained, those big trucks don't very, very well when the roads aren't well maintained, they break really quickly. And that, you know, if the truck can't get to your Walmart because the roads are so bad, your Walmart's going to empty really damn fast. So find one of these places that's not so dependent on the way things got built from 1960 to 2010 or 2008. And start building these alternatives.

You know, half the battle is knowing you have a problem. If you're listening to this program, you're sufficiently self-aware to realize that things are not, you know, well in the kingdom of Denmark. And I hope I've given you some tools to kind of evaluate where you live and how you live so that, you know, you can actually get a positive return and investment. You know, is, is $20,000 a year worth all that time in the car? It wouldn't be to me, you know. It's certainly not any kind of, you know, your health goes down, you know, down. rapidly, you're eating nothing but McDonald's and get a Taco Bell and, you know, I spend any time, you know, how do you even, you know, have a social life? How do you have friends? How do you

have, you know, little alone with family? So, and that's pretty typical all over America, you know, it's not just, not just Atlanta. I mean, Atlanta's particularly bad, but that's Los Angeles and that's Seattle and that's Houston, Texas, and, you know, Orlando, Jacksonville. You know, There's a lot of these places. They're all terrible like that. And they're all designed, not just designed to make you politically impotent and suck your life away. And as much as fun as podcasts are,

they're not really much compensation for just spending 10 hours a week in a car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, and 20. And also, just because somebody has a podcast.

doesn't mean that they're not doing things in real life. Just letting you know. Just not going to let you know what. Those of us who are smart enough, even those of us who have been stupid enough to use their real names, I'm not going to let you know what we're doing in real life. So I understand if I make a comment and someone's like, hey, you don't know what I'm doing in real life. And I'll be like, well, maybe we'd talk privately and compare some notes.

But people need to. get off the internet and start doing things in real life. That's what I've been doing for the past. So it took the time this week to really look towards trying to improve my situation, the situation with the ones I love. So, you know, I do appreciate, I appreciate this message. I've had a white paper on what a colony would look like for a while now. and just haven't really, really, I've shown some friends and they've liked it and everything.

Did I, did I, are we sympathetic on that? Is there anything I missed? Yeah, yeah, we're pretty damn close. Yeah. I mean, I have a little more, a little more detail, like the thing I mentioned about finance and things like that. But, yeah. You know, it's one of those things that I'm going to clean up one of these days. I stole it from somebody else.

And I just, it was shared with me from another group from a telegram group. And I was like, oh, well, I'm going to rework this. and, you know, rework some of the language here, fix some of the spelling and everything. But, yeah. And, and, I mean, obviously, you know, men, collectively men, you know, from Vladivostok to Lisbon, this European development pattern of Dunbar's number were the villages and then neighborhoods and towns that were that same. Dunbar's number and then the iterative process of camps to villages to towns

to small cities to big cities you know like always the neighborhood stayed that Dunbar's number size this is how people were meant to live you can look at Alexander and you can see that same pattern from all the way from Vladivostok Russia to Lisbon, Portugal and even into

all the way up to say Chicago in the United States the older cities are like this you're going to be happier. You're going to be healthier. There's going to be a lot better things in your life. And you don't have to start with this, you know, huge thing. Again, it could start with something as small as the gym.

It could start with something as small as, you know, one of you guys has a van and your wives get together and you all go to Costco. Where you split a quarter of a cow from a farmer. It doesn't have to be, you know, all of these things. Ideally, it would be this is. is how people are meant to live. This is how God created is to live. But it can start small. And once you get the ball rolling, you just see how much better things, certain things are. So, you know, go do that. Alexander had an imperium, but he also had, he also had small imperiums within the

imperium. And that can, that's the way this needs, it looks like it's going to need to be built. It's going to be a need to be built from small and push its way out. And I think that's really the only way the only way out of this at this point absent a Caesar. And I don't, I don't even know that a Caesar who was willing to do what needed to be done could actually get done what needed to be done at this point because the snake has, the snake doesn't even have a head. So it makes a hydro look look uncomplicated, you know, I mean, there's a million and one different lavages of power and we control almost none of them. And, you know, and you might not think, so, you know, those laptop jobs, right? So if you're living somewhere techy, right,

and you're making 200 grand a year doing tech stuff in Austin, Texas or Silicon Valley or Seattle or Boston or something, and you say, you know what, I'll take a $50,000 a year pay cut. If you let me work remote and you move to rural Iowa, that $150,000 goes 10 times farther than it would in Boston. Yeah. I mean, 100%. It's just being, what are you willing to do in order to not only make your life better, but the lives of the people you care about, the people under your dead. It's just, it's, and I just don't know how anyone can live in a big city at this point. And even if they're making, you know, incredible money and think that it's, it's sustainable. It just seems you'd have to be blind to it, especially people who think like we do.

I think you'd have to be blind to it at this point. And, um, yeah, I just, people are going to have to drop that individual liberty thing and come together and, you know, understand that you can have your individual liberty in your house, but you're going to have to come together with people to protect that individual liberty, and you're going to have to sacrifice a little bit of it. Now, Hapa even talks about that. Hoppa even talked about it when he talked about his covenant communities was,

um you're going to you go ahead can i just hit hit on that for just one second yeah that okay liberty as such and you know like you've listened to you know glenbeck or whatever he used to be pretty good someone someone took him to the top of mountain and showed him what's up and he you know he he calmed down quite a bit oh he was great he was a big influence on me before i found libertarianism i used to listen to him when he was still on the radio oh yeah well he still is on the radio but when he was Just on the radio. We were talking about Soros, but somebody showed him what was up,

and he quickly went, oh, and probably didn't want to get, you know, have an accident of some sort. Anyway, if you listen to those guys, and for the most part,

like the people we want to reach are those guys, the John Hannity, Glenn Beck, whatever type listeners. They're always talking about freedom, liberty, freedom, liberty, freedom, liberty. And freedom to what is the question you got to have. Freedom, freedom to what? Freedom to be on your own land, you know, freedom to raise your family or freedom to, you know, mutilate children and

do non-reproductive sexual stuff. So freedom, freedom to what? And, you know, Americans love like the little house stories. That's just a story of, of, of, of, of a family. being unable to take advantage of the division of labor and being poor as a result, right? Like this whole individual homestead thing is stupid. And European people have always lived in villages that were like a spoke in a wheel as opposed to, you know, individual plots. It's not a healthy way to live. But freedom to do what? freedom to, you know, freedom is always, always been socially conditional, right?

In the middle of Wisconsin territory in 1857, you might live in the middle of the woods all by yourself. But if you didn't come to church for two or three months, someone would stop by and be like, hey man, what's going on? Oh, it looks like, you know, this dude's been abusing his nieces. Well, fellas, guess we're going to impose some order on this sort of, like, you know, freedom to do what? And, you know, you got to sleep sometime. And so in order to be secure, which is a prerequisite to being free, you have to be able to have some sort of security arrangement. that requires some other dude. You're like, yeah, okay, well, we'll do this mutual insurance thing.

And you'll watch over me while I sleep and vice versa. And your freedom is contingent on me agreeing. Like, this is within the bounds of what I'll mutually insure you for. And, you know, certain things beyond the pale. Like you're out of the collective insurance group, that mutual manner bond, that's the Anglo-Saxon core of liberty. And I think a lot of us have lost that. idea of like, well, some, this was all contingent on a group of guys getting to come in and saying,

okay, here's the basics. Here's the rules. And saying, within these rules, you're free. Outside of these rules, we're going to punish you. And too many libertarians, you know, Thomas Jefferson wanted to put hanged us and horsa on the seal of the United States. Those guys, they were part of a group, a group of free men, but they were not. individual free men. The idea of individual men being free is a is ridiculous because there's no political community with which to act in. There's just him by himself and you know as says uh um Sam and Amran always says one man no man you know you don't have access to the to the division of labor

you don't have access to uh you know your children got to get married someday where? I presume you want grandkids. If you want grandkids, you got to interact with other families. If you want access to division of labor, maybe you're a pretty good blacksmith, but you're a lousy farmer. Well, you got to eat.

So all of this whole hyper-individualism is a historical and kind of a sci-op, to be honest. I mean, communities are free. Communities are free, not men. Well, that is, yeah, I mean, it's, I've, the more I listen to that, you know, and I hear myself saying it in the past, you know, individual liberty, individual liberty. I guess I never really gave it, considered what that meant, you know, and I always, I always had this idea of what anarchy would look like, but what anarchy always looked like was a bunch of people around me who, who believes exactly. exactly what I believed. That's what it always was in my head.

It was always people who believed what I believed. Because if you have, if you don't have a support system or a structure or a safety net in place, which is something that you can only have when people agree, or if people are forced to do it like you have now, and it's really not a safety net, everything is going to fall apart. everything is, you're literally 24 hours away from your quote unquote civilization, just

falling apart and going into ruin. And, you know, the whole thing you were mentioning about, you know, in medieval times, if you haven't heard, you know, or in times past, if you haven't heard from somebody, you know, in a month or two, when you go there and you find out that they're, that they're abusing, like their children or whatever, that is something that needs to be handled. And if it's not, if you don't have a society where culturally that is ready, there's a way to handle this, well, then you're just going to, what do you, how can you stop it? Private property. Oh, I can't go on that guy. I don't care if that guy's, if he could be

abusing his children. But it's private property, bro. It's private property. He can do what he wants. And that's literally the argument that you hear. And I'm not only, this isn't only for libertarians. This is for anyone who's, you know, the civic nationalist, the, you know, the conservatives. And they literally don't, their idea of, oh, somebody is, somebody's abusing their kids is to call the police, you know, the same police that, you know, enforced drag queen's story hour. the same British police that let, you know,

thousands and thousands of girls get abused in Rotherham and all over Northern England, those police? Yeah. Yeah. The same police that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to operate, do whatever he wanted for decades. Yeah. What was his name in Belgium, Dutro? I mean, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, these police. These are the people that you want to rely upon. rather than your neighbor who is going, your neighbors who are going to get together and go, well, you need to put a stop to this. I'd much rather have that than a quote unquote court of law or a private law society or something like that. Yeah. Just, it's all, it just all seem once you start, once you start, once, I mean, all you have to do is look, even if you don't want to start seeing the world for what it is and, you know, see the world, how we see it. Look at the last two and a half years.

Where is your libertarianism now? Where's your civic nationalism now? Look at the regime in charge. There's nothing you can do to defeat that other than to figure out a way to mitigate it. Right. I mean, look at it. Okay, so I'm a hick who lives in the middle of nowhere. I don't really leave my home much.

I don't participate in politics much. If I know how Kamala Harris got her start, and I know how Kamala Harris got her start, and I know that you know how Kamala Harris got her start, then everybody knows. Every time some foreign dictatories shakes her hand, they know what she did for a living when she was Willie Brown's girlfriend. You know, every intelligence agency on the face of the planet knows. The Japanese know, the Chinese, no, you guarantee you the Israelis,

know, the French know, the British know, everybody knows. If I know it, everybody knows it. So you've got a system where, you know, I don't know who the Democratic majority leader is now, but you have a lady whose husband is apparently a long-term closet case who's probably been drinking a bottle of chardonnay a day for the last 25 years in charge of, you know, the most powerful woman in American politics. You've got a brain, you know, a clearly dementia patient president. You've got a vice president who's visibly dumb and got her start how she was that delicately. Her affections were available for sale.

Right. This is the system that's been set up. And, you know, the head of the Republicans, not that's not that long. ago was an actual known pedophile job molester. You think the cops that are set up by that system are going to be the kind of people that you want with guns in charge of anything in your society in a society that's decent? Are you crazy? Well, I think when I look back on some of the things that I thought in the past and I see what some people are saying now, I think that there are a lot of people who are crazy. There's a lot of people who are insane with how they want things.

to be run. How they want, you know, they have, they want things to be run a certain way, and then they have no, no plan on how to do it or to even get around the fact that the, the regime in power right now is their mortal enemy and wants them dead, which is why I think a lot of them just, you know, embrace the trans thing. And it's like, well, I want them to just, you know, Maybe if I embrace that, they'll like me a little bit, you know, and I don't want to hurt people's feelings. I'm, you know, done with people's feelings, you know, I don't want to start sound like Ben Shapiro.

Yeah, because Ben Shapiro is not my friend and not anyone listening to this as friend. But I don't really care about how people feel. I don't care the people who... The feds who are monitoring, he's their buddy, but... Yeah. Other than that. Yeah. I have no, I have no earthly idea why anyone would think that him.

And I don't know why anyone ever thought that Jordan Peterson was their friend. I mean, I, Mr. U.N. report. Yeah. I mean, I looked at the, I bought the guy's book and I looked at it. And I'm like, okay, so this is basically a self-help book for young, for millennials. I'm not a millennial, so I don't really get what the whole point of this is. I had a dad growing up,

I don't really need this book. And the, you know, I mean, yeah, I remember someone had said on, someone has said on Twitter, I really like the direction Pete shows going in.

I just question some of his alliances now. And I'm like, and like who should who should I be aligning with now who should who should be my friend who should I trust right now other people you're going to have other people pick your friends for you and is that individual is that individual liberty I would start people who don't lie to you that's a start that'd be nice yeah and people who don't you know people who don't go to other countries, especially a small one in the Middle East that's, and, you know, basically a socialist, ethno state.

And, you know, but, oh, I'm sorry, the only democracy in the region and, you know, our greatest ally. I mean, a fascist ethno state with a wall? Yeah. Like, like, genetic requirements for citizenship. Yeah, like, give people free, give people free, um, give people free houses where that sometimes they build and sometimes they just take from other people. gee I mean there was a there was a group in the in the mid 20th century who got accused of doing less than this less than this actually jabatinsky you know jabatiski was was like straight up like stole

all of his ideas from the he should not be named like plopped them down like the eargun is you know like a ram emmanuel right the former white house chief of staff his dad was in the year going you know, partially responsible for the King David Hotel bombing, if I'm not mistaken. Like, you know, these people are willing to use power and they run everything. So you can talk out there, but individual liberty.

Okay, but what are you willing to use power for? And even if it's just something as simple as like, hey, man, you know, kick in 50 bucks a month for the gym that we have set up in community and don't go to, you know, Globo Gym where they promote weird stuff. Yeah. Or, yeah, they'll kick in, they'll kick, they won't kick in 50 bucks for the gym because,

you know, it just seems to, I don't know, I don't want to just be around people who think like me and believe like I do and everything. We need to be out there talking to people and trying to convince, convince them of what? You know, it's just, it's like somebody on Facebook. Someone on Facebook was like, well, we just need to educate people on what, educate people who are addicted to KFC and porn? Educate people with what? Like, in your pocket, you have a supercomputer that has more power than the entire space

program that brought people to the moon. Every book ever written. And what do people do with it? Watch pornography and play Candy Crush. You're showing your age. You're showing your age with the candy crush thing. Okay. I'm an old man.

Okay. You know, like, but, but, But that's what people, okay, TikTok. Like, like, they order DoorDash and do TikTok. I don't know what the kids are doing these days. That's awesome. I got to get out of here. I got to go do some stuff.

I will have anything. Just a link to my telegram channel if you would be so kind. Sure. And, you know, I thank you so much for having me. Like I said, I'm a big fan of yours and all the work you've been doing. You know, it really takes some. intellectual courage, I think, which, you know, moral courage is the biggest deficit we have in the world right now. And anybody that's shown some, I can, I respect quite a bit. I really,

really respect all the work you've been doing. And I'm just really grateful that you thought it was worth talking to me. So thank you so much for having me, man. Well, I appreciate it. And I also appreciate your help. And, you know, just let everyone know that you've helped me get a couple guests on here that people have really, really enjoyed. So that has been, uh, that was work that you did for me and I appreciate it. Happy to help. Happy to help. Thank you. All right. Take care. Bye. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekingona show returning and a fan favorite, a listener favorite, Dark Enlightenment. How you don't, D? Well, that's a very flattering. The listeners of the Pete Quinn on his show or some of the smartest people I've ever run across.

So to know that I'm held in esteem is a bit flattering. But I just want to say thank you for having me back, Pete. It's a pleasure. And I am continually amazed at the high quality level of the show. You know, the Aristotelian talk with Jeremy was fantastic. The stuff with N Block was, I was listening to that just last night. I was riveted, you know, completely on-point with both those. I really, really enjoy the program.

and everyone should, you know, go to a free man be on the wall slash support and kick in five bucks because this is worth way more than your cable. I appreciate. I appreciate that. I will say when I, when these come out your episodes and I put them on Odyssey, those, I can, the amount of views I get when you're on the show on Odyssey is like triple, quadruple, what, like, normal gets, you know? So, you know, and then people are just like that, have that. on all the time. Our roundtable that we did with with Jose Niño and Charles. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. People are like, you guys got to do that like once a month.

Well, once a month might be a bit much. If you guys are kicking sufficiently into the donate page, Pete can start kicking me 10 bucks an episode. We'll start talking maybe. That's awesome. Well, I appreciate the kind words right back at you. And we're here today because let's talk about something practical, something that anyone who I bought a house in the last year, actually six months, and as I drive around and I was looking at the market, I started to notice things. I also started to notice things about the rental market because all of this is affected. And I know that one of the things that you concentrate on more than anything is property, is, is, real estate is land development, things like that. So I think we're seeing prices in the neighborhood of what we saw in the 2000s,

leaving up to the crisis doesn't necessarily mean a crisis is coming, but history does help to define how we look at things and how we can judge what's going on. And so, past, past this prolog, as they say, and if you see similar conditions, don't expect similar outcomes, human nature being what it is. And, you know, that no one can say, oh, this is, this, this is fine, you know, the dog and burning house meme. This is, this is probably bad. Yeah. We don't know exactly how to play out, but it's probably bad. Well, where to start.

Well, if somebody's looking at housing, say, I don't know. Let's talk about places that are historically high prices like California, New York, places like that. Why are they seeing, why are the prices just absolutely through the roof at this point? Well, if you would, I sent you a link to the Charles Hugh Smith article, but basically this is the minute put on my bowtie back for a second. Even though I'm no longer a libertarian. There's a lot of libertarian analysis that's very, very important, particularly when it comes to things like central banking. And we had, what, a good decade from 2008 to, what, 2020, where basically interest rates were near zero.

Yeah. Like, you know, like interest rates ought to be, you know, if you put, do your basic Austrian analysis, ought to be a function of how much savings there are. But there was no savings. No one had any savings. So why are these interest rates so low? you know, it's not like everyone's sitting on $15,000 in cash, you know, just looking to loan money out and money's super cheap. It's very, here you go. I just pulled it up on the screen.

Yeah. But maybe we could read it. I don't know. But basically, right, we had this completely artificial bubble created the everything bubble, right? That was the 2008, you know, totally government induced. And I believe Tom Woods did the best job in, I think it was. was meltdown? What caused that?

Yeah, yeah. And I remember reading that back in the day. And then, of course, once you understand both Tom and then Steve Saylor's analysis, Tom didn't really go into the racial aspect of it, but that was one of the major causes, right, of that. But we've had this 10-year period where basically, you know, people were just chasing returns and chasing returns. and there was no interest rate was zero. So, you know, CDs, just you could put money in the stock market or you could buy real estate. And that's it.

That's all the only places you could get any money back. And so we have this huge inflation of bubble and maybe, and Charles C. Smith, it's a great guy. But unless you understand both the financial side of this, of the money printer, and a couple other things. Mass immigration, particularly of non-whites, and the suburban housing experiment requiring more and more land than, you know, their old neighborhoods in New York City that I'm sure you remember in Queens, in Brooklyn,

in upper Manhattan, you know, where a thousand people could live pretty reasonably, you know, maybe not. Yeah, our rent, what I was, When I was growing up, my parents got an apartment in the Bronx. There's a two-bedroom, one bath, and it was still in a, I mean, it was a medium-bronx neighborhood. There are some really nice sections of the Bronx. There are some really bad sections of the Bronx.

This one was sort of in the middle. And, I mean, the two-bedroom, one bath, I think they got it in 1973. It was $211 a month, right. Right. Well, I mean, inflation since it's probably written that to $1,000. dollars, but still. But, so we have this perfect storm of increasing diversity, land use being what it is, that instead of having density with neighbors that you could actually live with,

you have, you have to, you know, price drive till you price out the undesirable elements, which is something that most people won't talk about, which, I mean, I will, and I'm one of the few people that will admit, like, at the root of the housing crisis is a racial problem and this Fed monetary policy. And the thing about it, why I'm so upset by it and why I wanted to talk is this is on purpose. This is not like something that like, oh, this just accidentally happened. Maybe in, you know, 2010 or 2011, you could go, oh, shoot, man, housing prices are going crazy because of these low interest rates.

We should do something about that. No, they let it ride for years and partly because, you know, boomers are. are wanting to retire. And boomers, you know, a millennial years ago talked about how boomers want mass immigration because it drives at the price of their housing. And, you know, they're going to retire with millions of dollars, right? Never mind if the millions of dollars won't buy you anything.

But they're all, these issues are related to stuff that we talk about on the dissident right. And only people who are willing to touch those third rails of race. immigration and financial chicanery and who's behind it are willing are going to actually so get to the heart of the problem so yeah i would say that um and i'll start reading this and then you can stop me and you can comment on anything um libertarian analysis is great um but they're not going to touch the underlying issues the under the underlying issues of race of immigration things like that um because it's just not acceptable. You're, you're not judging people as individuals and that kind of thing. So just the typical

de-radicalization that someone like me who was, you know, pretty much a racist my whole life, who, um, not racist, but, you know, saw that there were differences between, you know, every group and then became a libertarian and was like, oh, now I have to judge everybody. It's like a de-radical, I mean, becoming a libertarian is like de-radicalizing. They think, think they're like they're radicals. They're not radicals at all. I mean, saying that you want the government, you know, we need to abolish the government, you know, saying something that you're not going to be able to ever accomplish. That's not going to happen in your lifetime in the lifetime of your children, their children, children, children, children, children, you know, 400 generations.

That's not something radical. That's why you never see them get cracked down upon unless they do something stupid with guns or something like that, or they do something to fuck with the money. supply like, you know, put up Bitcoin ATMs and things like that. But, you know, the people who talk about the real issues of race and, you know, and demographics and immigration, they get fucked with, you know, so. Exactly. You know, all right, you want me to start reading us? Go for it. All right. So he's, he wrote, here's why housing is unaffordable for the bottom 90%. This is a direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that gave the wealthiest households the means to bid up housing to

the point it's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And you can just hear libertarians going, oh, boo-hoo, work harder, learn a code. The superficial conclusion that the reason why, the superficial conclusion that the reason why housing is unaffordable is a scarcity of housing misses a key dynamic in supply and demand. Who has too much money and where do they park it? The reality is obvious, but conventional analysts don't see it largely because it doesn't fit the approved narratives. Here's why housing is unaffordable to the bottom 90%. One, the U.S. economy is a bubble economy that funnels the vast majority of gains into the top 10% who own 90% of all income producing assets. Bubbles create astounding sums of unearned wealth and distribute it very asymmetrically.

the already wealthy who inherited assets or acquired them when they were cheap, reap most of the gains. Please examine the first two charts below to see how this works. The first chart shows that the top 10% owned between 85% and 95% of all income-producing assets, business equity, stocks, bonds, and other securities, and non-home real estate, i.e., second homes, and income-generating properties. The second chart shows that household net worth concentrated in the top 10%, soared far above GDP in the bubble economy, in effect creating $55 trillion out of thin air

and handing 90% of it to the wealthy. Recall that net worth is assets minus liabilities such as debt, so this is what's left after subtracting liabilities slash debts. The less wealthy tend to have fewer assets and more debts, so someone may hold hold title to a million dollar home, but if their mortgage is $900,000, their net worth is only $100,000. Also note that the family home doesn't generate income other than for the owner of the mortgage, to the homeowner, it is an expense, not an income source. Turning to the second chart, we see that if household net worth had tracked the general

economy's expansion, i.e. GDP, gross domestic product, it would be less than $90 trillion. Thanks to the bubble economy, it's $145.9 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve's database. That $55 trillion above the real-world economy's actual expansion is an artifact of the bubble economy, an artificial construct of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented manipulation of interest rates and monetary stimulus. Note that in the previous housing and stock market bubble, circa 2006-to-8, household net worth only exceeded GDP by $5 trillion. A nice chunk of change to be sure, but in order of magnitude smaller than the gargantuan $55 trillion in bubble wealth created in the current central bank everything bubble. As the chart below of housing bubbles 1 and 2 shows, the Fed's unprecedented stimulus inflated housing bubbles number one and number two,

the stock market bubble took off around 1995 with the introduction of the Netscape browser, and housing's assent lagged a few years beginning in the late 1990s. The chart is the Case Schiller National Home Price Index. But housing bubble number one really only took off after the dot-com stock market bubble popped, and the Fed aggressively lowered interest rates. The Fed funds rate fell from six point. 5% in summer 2000 to 1% in summer 2003. It remained at a historically low 3% well into 2005 when the housing bubble entered into

its rocket booster phase of euphoria. The Fed eventually normalized rates returning to 5% by mid-2000, but as the housing bubble began popping, the Fed quickly started cutting rates again, dropping the Fed funds rate to near zero by December 2008.16%. The wealth Yeah, go ahead. And there was another chart in the chat that

well, median house price versus rent or something will have to pull that up. It stayed that way for 10 years. Think about that for just a second. If you are a core millennial, right? I'm an old, like, I'm right on the edge of ex-millennial. I'm 40.

in my mid-40s. If you're 10 years younger than me, if you're 35 years old, right, you graduated high school in, oh, I don't know, 2003, 2004, 2005, something like that, right as you're getting your life started. For the first 10 years of your, like, you know, from 20 to 30 or from 25 to 35, when you're supposed to be establishing yourself, meeting a spouse, getting married, having your first kids, the economy completely screwed you.

0.168. Like, you know, at least at least in like completely corrupt oligarchies like a like Bahrain or UAE or whatever. Like they just admit like, hey,

like we're the ruling family and we're in charge. We're just like all the money is going to come to us and you're screwed. They admit that. But if you, you know, in America we're supposed to be like, oh, it's a free and democratic republic where my vote counts as much as Bill Gates is. How am I supposed to get a start in life when, you know, you're screwing with the money supply like this to the benefit of the oligar.

Yeah. And. Yeah. Because wages didn't go up. I mean, if wages kept pace with, you know, I mean, you know, wages remained flat. I've been effectively fled since the 70s. I think I saw this. I heard this the other day on a podcast.

And I can't remember which one it was, but it wasn't one of ours. It was more of a mainstream podcast. And it said that in 2000, the average median income was $30,000. And the average home price was $120,000. And as of 2020,000, The median income is 40,000 and the average home price is 410,000.

Sounds about right. Like, like, for four years of, you know, median, like, you know, the average house is four years of your median wage, right? Like, if you just paid off four years, you know, like, oh, hey, over 30 years, you can take 10% of what you make and 20% of what you make and pay it to its house. now it's what 10 times there's no way when I was living when I was still living in Atlanta there were houses there were neighborhoods that I knew where there were houses that were built in the 60s and 70s and I never really priced them or anything but you know I had a rough idea how much they cost they started building McMansions around them and you know little and they were little ones. Like there would only be five in like a cul-de-sac. And they were like, oh, starting at $900,000.

This isn't very far outside of Atlanta. You're maybe breaking the Atlanta city line by 10 minutes. So this isn't even the suburbs yet. And you're at $900,000. So the home price to income ratio, I just found a chart. from 1953 to 2023 to 2023 this is long-term trends.net And in the 50s it was around 6 and in the housing bubble it was around 7 or 8 and it's backed up to 7 or 8 now. And in the 50s and 60s, you still had restraints on the money supply through still having some semblance of a gold standard. Yes. Yeah.

So that's how I remember my family in Pennsylvania telling me that they bought their houses in the 60s for like $15,000 and $20,000. Yeah. Yeah. while they were on a coal miner's salary. Yeah. Yeah. And the wife didn't work. Yeah.

So, yeah. Yeah. It was 6.31 in 1953, got down to as low as, you know, 3.7 in the late 60s. And, you know, it's back above seven now. So anyway, please continue with the. Yeah. And I was going to mention those $900,000. or houses that were popping up, those were on like a quarter of an acre.

Yeah, there's a quarter of it. You're not getting any land with that. You're just, it's just a house. It's just like that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Part three of this.

The wealth created by the Fed's stock and bond bubbles flowed into housing. It is not a coincidence that the housing bubble, number one, expanded rapidly from 2000 onward. As the stock market bubble deflated, those. who reap the gains sought a new place to park their excess wealth, and with interest rates falling, due to the Fed, housing was the place to put that bubble-generated capital to work. Mortgage rates hit historic lows, and the resulting bubble was self-reinforcing, simply securing the purchase rights to an as-yet unbuilt house with a small down payment could generate astounding gains in a few months.

I remember being in South Florida and a friend of mine bought a house in January. And this was in 2000, this was at the ending of 2004. He had bought a house in January for $165,000 and in April sold it for $325. That's what that's what the market was doing back then. He doubled his money. Yeah. Just about. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. That's insane. Yeah. In four months. I bought a condo and I sold it two months later just because we weren't really, weren't really familiar with the neighborhood. And it turned out the neighborhood wasn't that great. So I just turned around like two months later and flipped it.

And we made 30% on the sale. Yeah. It was. Yeah. Right. But again, you know, what if you're a young person who's getting started? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, those days are gone until somebody does something, basically. All right. Financial fraud, oops. I mean, innovations added icing to the Fed's bubble cake. Lyer loans, zero-down payment mortgages, adjustable rate mortgages, deceptive packaging of toxic mortgages into highly rated mortgage-backed securities, et cetera, fueled the bubble's final blow off top. Massive sustained Fed stimulus inflated housing.

bubble number two, a bubble that went ballistic in 2020 as the Fed engaged an unprecedented stimulus, doubling its balance sheet to $9 trillion, dropping the Fed's fund rate from a meager 2.4% back to zero and boosting its portfolio of mortgage-backed securities to $2.6 trillion. Fed stimulus also inflated bubbles in stocks and bonds. As interest rates fell to near zero, bonds soared in value and the S&P 500 index of stocks rocketed from 666, ironic, in early 2009 to 3,380 in early 2020, a five-fold increase. The vast majority of these massive gains accrued to the top 10%, roughly 13 million households.

In parentheses, there are 131 million households in the U.S. So basically, yeah, 10%. The top 10% includes the financial nobility, billionaires in those words hundreds of millions, the top 0.01%, the financial aristocracy households worth 10 millions, the top 0.5%, the wealthy net worth in the many millions, the top 1%, and the upper middle class, the bottom 9% of the top 10%. Historically speaking, the upper middle class has often owned more than one property, a vacation cabin on the lake or beach, raw land held for investment, or a rental property, with interest rates locked by the Fed at unprecedented lows,

the 12 million households in this class who had seen their stock, bond, and property portfolios zoom to staggering heights, tap their newfound wealth and ample credit to go on a housing, real estate buying spree. Recall that housing was still affordable in the mid to late 1990s. Mechanics and librarians could still buy a modest home in a good neighborhood in the San Francisco Bay Area and many other now unaffordable metro areas. When the housing bubble number one finally popped, housing was very briefly affordable circa 2012. Five, many frugal investment savvy upper white middle class households acquired properties

when they were still affordable. It's not at all uncommon for families to own multiple property in addition to the family home. Vacation homes bought decades ago at low prices were converted to short-term vacation. rentals for part of the year, generating income when the family wasn't using the home. Nearby cabins were snapped up for investment rentals. The upper middle class also inherited properties and other assets. Assets, for example, houses, but decades ago for 30 or 40,000 have stored to 1 million

valuations in many metro areas or even 2 million in desirable neighborhoods. Selling a home for a million plus leaves more than enough capital to buy multiple properties in less pricey regions. Unfortunately for the upper middle class, the financial aristocracy and wealthy already owned the most desirable properties and the most desirable areas. So the upper middle class lowered their sites to what was still affordable, and this has driven gentrification, as those with excess capital and credit seek a place to park their wealth that will rise in value. Neighborhoods that were once affordable quickly became unaffordable at the bottom 90% as the top 10% bid prices to the moon.

7. The immense wealth created by the bubble economy hasn't just enriched a few billionaires. It's created an entire class of wealthy numbering in the millions. When 10 million households have the wealth and credit to buy houses beyond the family home they live in, that's a very large pool of buyers, buyers who have seen their initial purchases soaring in value, incentivizing additional purchases of housing. 8. Housing is priced in the margins, so a really low. relative handful of purchases can push the valuation of an entire neighborhood to the moon.

Compared to stocks and bonds, housing is illiquid. Transactions are few and take months to settle. The last five sales will adjust the valuation, parentheses via appraisals seeking nearby comparables of the surrounding hundred homes. Corporations and the super wealthy have always been on a massive buying sprees, sapping up hundreds or thousands. thousands of houses as rental properties. The $55 trillion in excess bubble wealth is always seeking a higher return. And as rents have soared, see the chart below, rental housing has been seen as a safe and profitable haven for the trillions of dollars floating around seeking a low risk return, low risk high return. As the last chart shows, the current housing bubble is far more

extreme than housing bubble number one. It took a much shorter period of time to reach a far higher heights of over-evaluation. This is why the bottom 90% can't afford a house. The bubble economy created $55 trillion out of thin air, and 90% of that went to the top 10%, a class historically attuned to owning real estate for income and investment. The bottom 90% skimmed a few bucks in the past 25 years of the bubble economy, but nowhere near enough to compete with corporations, the financial aristocracy, or the upper middle class. This is the direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of

unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that give the wealthiest households the means to bid up housing to the point it's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And I'll make sure to link this in the show notes so people can, if you're listening, you can at least look it over and everything. As more and more people are renting, right? You buy a house in a decent neighborhood, right? And you're just a middle class person and your mortgage is you can afford it. But one of those upper middle class people that had maybe had the wherewithal to get in, you know, to, you know, climb the ladder, as it were.

It moves out of that nice middle class neighborhood that, you know, your parents bought for $50,000, you know, $50,000 in 1987, right? and they take that middle class house and they start renting it. If you rent it out to Section 8s, it's guaranteed income. I mean, who cares? You don't live there anymore. Who cares if, you know, the people who live there that you rent to are terrible? I've personally, I've personally known many people who take advantage of that and get that Section 8 check every month.

Right. You're guaranteed the check. No, never going to be late. It's always on time. And, you know, it doesn't matter to you if, like, the people who live in your house are playing Ranchero Music 3 in the morning, you don't live there anymore. Who cares about, you know, like, you don't know your neighbors. You're not friends with them.

You don't have any solidarity with them. They're not your kith and kin that you care about. You moved up to the east side, you know, into the apartment in the sky. You made it. And it's, right? As that suburban model that requires vast sums of land and just eats land in huge chunks because the roads are huge and wide, the houses are far apart, right? Sprawls out more land is required. It costs more.

Materials cost more. All of this other stuff that I've talked about endlessly elsewhere. I don't really, I mean, I can recapitulate that if you want. want me to, but I don't feel I need to. You've get this doubling effective, like, okay, not only is a process more expensive, but

you've got to move. If you have a family and the guy next door moves out and puts in a bunch of Section 8 stuff and there's you know, cartel dudes with face tattoos playing Ranch Arrow at 3 in the morning,

you've got to move. If you've got to, if you've got to, kids, you got to leave that spot. You've got to go. You can't have your kids around those dudes. I mean, you'd be insane to have, have a white daughter living next door to a bunch of Section 8 cartel guys. It's insane. So you've got this, this, maybe you sell at a loss. Maybe, maybe you, you know, your quality of life is significantly degraded. Now, what, moving is awful. I hate moving. It's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you just, you just get done with a move. Yeah.

And it was, and even with, I wanted to die. I mean, I, like, literally, I've already, I've already decided I'm dying in this house.

Yeah. You just, you just don't want to do it. It's terrible. Um, and, and, you know, you weren't,

this was like, okay, um, I got a great wife. You got a great job. I can live everything where I want. I'm moving someplace. I'm excited about living.

It's going to be great. We're going to have all these positive things to come of it. And it was still a pain in the neck. It was still awful. I remember, you know, like we talk privately. Oh, go, I got to go find, you know, got to find an end table. Oh, shoot me now.

It drove 35 minutes to find the right end tables. I don't want to kill myself. Right. It's terrible. It's awful. And what you've got to do, you need, you know, you need certain things for your house.

Well, imagine going through that entire process. But instead of all these positive accruals of like, I'm going to live in some base homogenous, someplace safe, someplace where I'm going to get to do things that I want to do. And with all these, you know, awesome plans that you have that are frankly kind of cool, I look forward to visiting you someday. It sounds awesome. The idea that like you're forced out because like I can't.

can't live here. Right. Left behind in Rosdale, this is the book or imagine to call back to, you know, our series that we did on, um, uh,

race war in high school. Imagine you're one of those folks living in that neighborhood in Brooklyn. It was Brooklyn, right? Um, like the school was right on the border between Brooklyn and Queens. Yeah. I remember right?

Right. Imagine, right, imagine you're one of those in Brooklyn at the time. you've just got to leave. You're literally being chased out by, you know, insane, violent, non-white people wielding machetes. You got to take whatever loss you can and move. And it's going to cost you more time and it's stressful.

And, you know, all of these things, right, these all of these increased costs that just make it more and more and more difficult. And so, you know, many years ago when I was new to all these sorts of ideas, I was like, I got to tell these people about the truth. Like the bell curve is a thing. And that's why there's this problem here. And then, oh, my gosh, everybody knows. Lindsay Graham knows. Kamala Harris knows.

Everybody knows all of the true things that we talk about. And they base their policy on it. You think that the people who are facilitating the invasion of Appetusa right now don't know that like bringing 10,000 single African men into a little tiny island with like 7,000 people on it, a lot of whom are old folks, isn't going to cause a huge number of problems. Well, and probably mostly criminals being led out of a prison somewhere. Oh, yeah, of course, just like the Muriel Bolt left, right?

Like, we're, you know that, right? 80% of the Turkish refugees in Germany don't work. So why, right? The German state knows that. They publish the data. So why are they the one saying, oh, well, we need these people for the economy? No, you don't. You know that they don't work.

I mean, if 80% of the time, Pete, you're like a complete drunk jerk, but 20% of the time you're great as a neighbor, right? Yeah. Are you a good neighbor or not? I've had those neighbors. before. Right. And it's awful. It's terrible. You know, Atlanta is physically enormous.

And it's physically enormous because people have been moving one exit down the highway from bad neighbors for 50 years. Or no. Atlanta probably 70 years. Yeah, 70. Right. So,

at what point, you know, and that's what, what, one of the things that precipitate of the housing crisis in 2008, was the war in Iraq caused a massive spiking fuel prices. And people just couldn't afford the drive. You know, the drive until you qualify thing that happened in, you know, like, well, wait a minute, you know, something that's tenable, you know, living, living in in Bakersfield and driving to Los Angeles, it might be tenable at, you know, a dollar 20 gallon.

It is not at $3.50 or $4.75 or whatever it got up to back of the day. It's just, it's not tenable. And now we're looking at, you know, $4 and $5. again and these massive housing prices. And you have to ask yourself, you know, this is on purpose. When you flood the country with tens of millions of illegals, right? Is anyone in Eagle Pass, Texas? Like, oh, this is fine.

This is, we're going to be able to stay here. We're going to be able to build life here. Or are they like, we need to get the hell out of here. You know, look at what the COVID thing. It's going to be millions. And, I mean, not to get too paranoid. but it is precisely that middle class, upper middle class person with a million dollars

I mean, you know, oh my gosh, you know, what you or I could do with a million dollars. Right? But it is precisely the person that owns a diner or has a small business where they have access to capital that was the, you know, the Jeffersonian Yeoman class that was supposed to kind of carry this country and did. centuries. You know, not not that they had a million dollars

in 1780 or whatever, but you know, the petite bourgeoisie folks that owned a business, maybe had a house, had enough money to like vociferously complain to, you know,

a state representative or a local congressman and, and actually get listened to. because, you know, they were able to afford the, you know, three, four, five thousand dollars for the rubber chicken dinner and complain in his year. And you get enough of those people, right? You get 500 people, you know, the middle Alabama small restauranteurs association where you got 500 dudes who operate barbecue joints and hash houses and, you know,

family run pizza places and whatever. and each of these people's got a million dollars. And they can compete with like, you know, a dude with $500 million. You know, you get 500 people that, they own a real business. Well, what was the 2020 from, you know, quote was COVID? But like, oh, Pizza Hut can stay open. But, you know, Joe's pizza down on the corner, they have to close. Right?

It was just a gigantic transfer from local grocery stores, local businesses, small restaurants to, you know, the big guys. Amazon and Walma, you know, Walmazon took over. And this whole housing crisis, and that's not even just like an America thing, right? I mean, we could look at, you know, prices in South Beach, Miami, or New York or San Francisco, or what have you. It's happening in Toronto. It's happening in Vancouver. It's happening in Paris.

It's happening in England. It's happening in, you know, London. London, England, it's happening in Italy. It's happening all over the world because this is a policy of the globalists. I've seen ads for, you know, like a garage in Vancouver for

$500,000. A garage, like a garage, like a literal, you know. And so you have to ask yourself, wait a minute, if this is happening all over the world, every one of these places is getting hit by massive waves of immigration that not only bid up prices just because they're having more people,

but they force people out because it's intolerable to live. You know, can you imagine even imagine living in Lampedusa right now? I mean, could you even imagine? No. Would you even let your wife out of the house? No. Be planning your exit.

You'd have to leave. You'd have to leave. I mean, it's a wonderful place. I'm sure it's absolutely fantastic, like, you know, middle of the Mediterranean, beautiful, white beaches, gorgeous weather. I mean, old, beautiful architecture, I'm sure it's a paradise. And just like with Maui, right? Like all those folks are going to leave and someone's going to buy that property for a song because they're distressed.

And then, you know, Oprah Winfrey can be like, well, you know, actually get the riff, raff off my beach. Because she has enough juice with the people in charge to actually make it so that, so the nice happens. but what about what about the poor folks that got displaced what happens to them what happens to their kids well you you sent me that um thing in rock claw poland yeah they just took an apartment divided it into 25 nine foot by six foot bedrooms and they're charging everybody 320 a month u.s dollars yeah i mean Poland Poland which is you know so supposed to be based but You know, who are they in business with? They're in business with Global Homo.

Right. Yeah, Hungary. Now they get to live like Global Homo. Right. My friends over at the White Papers Institute, if you're actually interested in the integrity of policy, I can't recommend White Papers Institute, Hyman Alfon substack.

I mean, you know, you should be following Pete Substack, but there's many others out there that are awesome, and substacks have been a great platform for our people to tell the truth on. Hungary has one of the largest diaspora's in the world. They're importing foreign workers from Asia,

South Asia. Instead of going to local Hungarians and being like, hey, come back to come back to the homeland. Will we need workers come back? Right. They're importing. So even like Victor Orban, right? Like based Victor Orban.

Right. You know, oh, Greg Abbott's tough talking governor of Texas. He doesn't take no got. Why is he letting in tens of millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where? Asia, Africa, all over Central America. You know, how is that constitutional government? How is that protecting the rights, liberty, and property of Texans to let tens of thousands of people just trump across your land?

I wrote a substack yesterday saying, One of the most dangerous things in existence right now is the religion of civic nationalism, is that we have to stick to the Constitution. We have to do it. It's what we've done in the past and everything. And not realizing that all of those things were set up by a, you know, the Constitution was set up by a bunch of oligarchs so that they could subvert it. So that it could enrich them.

Do you know who the four richest people in America were in 1770s? Who? George Washington, John Hancock, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, and Philip Schuyler, Alexander Hamilton's father-in-law. I mean, you're people- I'm not sure that's the four. Yeah, it's a religion. It's a religion, and they will not, you know, people still haven't figured out that, you know, like, you know, oh, I'm a staunch conservative. What are you conserving? What are you conserving?

Bro, you can't conserve the girls' bathroom. Yeah, the New Deal regime. Is that what you're you're conserving the New Deal regime? Nuremberg by calling leftist Nazis owning the leftists by calling them Nazis? And right, birth rate citizenship, like birth rate citizenship guarantees that none of these people. Like you just destroy Texas. It might take 30 years. They might have to get married and have kids and those kids will be born.

But those kids won't grow. Like with the housing prices the way they are now, those people will be permanent renters. Will they ever be not be on Section 8? Of course not. Will they ever not be on SNAP? Will they ever not be on Medicare or Medicaid? Will they ever be productive taxpayers?

Will they ever be part of that pity board? Z that actually carries America, you know, the people with their own businesses who live, you know, without much state dependency. Of course not. Of course not. And their kids are going to vote accordingly. So what are you doing? This housing crisis that is preventing young people from getting married and having children

or living in a secure life or growing assets. This is a policy. This is on purpose. You know, I just saw, I put it in our private chat. I think, you know, the, national median rent versus annual household income as ratios. So like if they started at zero in 1985, by the time 2023 rolls around, rent goes up like 160% and housing,

goes up something like, this is on TikTok, so I don't know, like maybe you could forward it or put it in, but I don't know how to do any of this. I'm a complete boomer when it comes to technology. Which is kind of funny, but, you know, wages, household income is basically flat, right? and it started to creep up just a little bit in, you know, after the tariffs and Trump's, you know, rightful understanding of the way things are working. But, you know, incomes up 30 percent, housing's up 160 percent. How are people supposed to live? How are people supposed to live? And so ask yourself the question, well, they know what's happening.

you read the financial press, you read the right people, they know what's happening. So what's happening? Is this on purpose? Oh, it has to be. There's no other explanation. Yeah.

And so the market's going to correct? How? The guys that cornered the market, the top, you know, not even the top 10%, but the top, you know, 1%. You know, the local shop owner that had a million dollars. It was part of that 10%

had a house at the lake, had a decent place on the local pizza joint. You know, how's he going to compete with Bill Gates? How is he going to compete with Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk? He's not. So, you know, libertarians, sorry, you're going to have to do something that's like not market-based if you want to correct this imbalance somehow. right yeah because it wasn't a market-based thing in the first place you know who are the richest people in the world uh Elon Musk got all his money through a government basically he's

working for the military industrial complex right doing all the R&D for electric vehicles that the that the deep state wants getting paid for that right Starlink who's the major contractor for all of his SpaceX stuff. That's all NASA and other, putting aside whether or not any of that's real or not. Right. Like, he's working for the government. Jeff Bezos,

without not paying sales taxes and without being able to use the post office and government roads, Jeff Bezos goes out of business. Walmart, which is the major employer in like 45 of the 50 states, You can look it up. Without SNAP benefits, every one of their stores goes out of business. Without, you know, many of their employees, right, are on some sort of assistance.

You know, without some sort of government intervention, Walmart goes out of business. You know, health care is the other major, like health care and state university systems are the other, like, biggest employer in, you know, state X. is either Walmart. I think in Washington State it was Boeing. I remember looking this up four or five years ago. So it might have changed since then, but I doubt it. In four or five states, it was like the local health system, right? Which, of course, is just a pass-through for Medicare and Medicaid dollars with some private money sprinkled on top.

So what are you going to do, right? State universities, like they're a real, the private employer, please. You didn't get here because, oh, the free market or government, you know, like, this has all been a government operation from start to finish. We haven't had a free market since 1913 at a minimum.

Dude, you're missing the answer here. Just end the Fed and end the government, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so the people with all the money and all the guns and all the lawyers, they're going to just let you end it by saying, Well, I don't like that. But that's the moral thing. This is all about morals.

They're immoral and I'm moral. That makes me right. And that's all that matters. Okay. Yeah. You're moral, but your children aren't to be able to afford to have children. And you're never going to have grandchildren.

You might have a like a grand dog. Yeah, that's not. You're going to have like, you're going to have to live in your old age. And by the time. And by the old age surrounded by gang bangers, you're going to like beat you up and take your stuff because you can't afford

to move. Yeah. And by the time. they figure this out and start talking about it, if they do have grandkids, they're trans, grandkids are going to load them onto a box car. Yep.

So this housing crisis that, again, it's not just happening in the United States, it's happening in Canada, it's happening in Australia, it's happening in New Zealand, it's happening in, and I've talked to Ozzie's and New Zealanders about this. Numerous times. You know, like this is not

a new thing. This is all over the world. And, and Oh, the other thing that we didn't talk about, let's say that you're Chinese and you made, oh, I don't know, $300 million illicitly in China. And because China is actually a serious country, they do things to criminals in their country, like execute them. And you're like, I need to get the hell out of here. But because you're in Hong Kong, you've got some sort of relationship with the British. And so you're like, I'm going to take my money and go. and you go and you buy a $155 million apartment in Central London.

And that's how some of these places cost. Hundreds of millions of dollars for an apartment. That's insane. No one lives there. Why is that? Well, here's what happens. Mr. Lee takes $155 million of his dirty money. He buys an apartment in Central London for $155 million.

Cash. then maybe he does the same thing a couple other places. Maybe he's got a place in Miami, maybe he's got a place in New York. Right. All of a sudden, well, he's got these three houses. What does he do with it? Well, he's got $155 million asset just sitting there. He can borrow against that.

So he can borrow $110 million. Put that in the stock market, in dividend stocks, and live off that for the rest of his life. And all of a sudden, boom, whatever dirty money, he was made. making is clean. And never mind that, oh, well, ordinary English people can't afford to live in England and that they've been driven out of their home capital, their own capital. And there's all these empty houses in, you know, a huge chunk of Trump Tower was actually because of stuff like this, right?

You know, it's just the, just the place that, you know, these super wealthy live. Like, well, why can't you just say, actually, nah, we're not doing this. that in the middle of Manhattan. Sorry. You can live here. No one's saying you can't. But like human beings have to live like in the most expensive real estate in the world. We're not just going to leave it empty so that you can launder money. Because because ordinary people can't afford to live in New York anymore. Maybe Staten Island is the last place. Ordinary people can afford to live in New York.

But if you're not somehow state dependent, like receiving Section 8, snap and free healthcare and all that other stuff, How does an ordinary person live in New York? You have to be super wealthy to live in New York City anymore. I mean, am I wrong? No, I mean, I don't understand how anybody who, you know, hasn't lived there for decades and parents, you know, have their parents' house or, you know, I've had a rent control place passed down to them for, you know, from a generation ago,

how you can afford to live there unless you are, you know, the, child, you are the 1% or the child of someone in the 1%. And I don't even know how people the 1%, 1% really isn't that much anymore. It's really that top 0.5%. Because, I mean, all you have to do

is go to New York for a weekend and see how much stuff costs and you ask yourself the question, how do people live here? Yeah, they don't. That's the people are just, I don't know. People are waiting for it to get so bad that they're forced to react. And by the time you get to that, to there, you may not even have the, you may not have the strength to react.

You may not, I don't know what people are waiting for. I mean, I'm not, you know, saying, oh, people got to overthrow, overthrow this government and everything. but wake up to the fact that of what we're living through and where we're at in this moment in history and what it's going to take for you to fortify yourself and get through it. I think many people think that this can just go on, they can go on forever in this. Yeah, I mean, you can't. You can't explain to me how this is going to work.

Right. Like Texas, Tucker Carlson actually just had a really good interview with Ken Paxton, the AG of Texas. And Ken Paxton is the sort of civic nationalist that would be a decent person in a decent country, but is completely ill-equipped to deal with the realities, the world that we live in. And I urge the listeners to, you know, it's about 45 minutes long or something. I think you can probably find it on Rumble and listen at two times speed, which is what I did. But, you know, the oligarchy Bush clan, right, who've been CIA people for what, Prescott Bush was, right? Like, not just, and then, you know, HW was director of the CIA,

just happened to be in Dallas when Kennedy was shot. Scott Bush tried to overthrow the government. Yeah, that's right. I remember. Yeah. It's part of the business plot, wasn't he? Yep, business plot. Okay. All right. Yeah. So, not that FDR was great, but yeah. Anyway, skull and bones, right?

You know, the 2000. Hey, you know, eight election, eight election was, was, look at that one bones in from Yale versus another bones been from Yale. Who says if the business plot didn't, didn't go through it might have that. we might not actually be in a better spot. Who knows? I don't know.

I don't know, but nevertheless, right? We've got this, this oligarchical family that, uh, that aren't really from Texas, but, uh, Carl Rove, their homosexual, uh,

hatchet man goes after Ken Paxton for, uh, effectively, you know, he's opposing the Obama administration on civic nationalist grounds. And, uh, his boss,

Governor Greg Abbott doesn't do anything because Greg Abbott, you know, he'll wield himself all the way up to the wall wearing a Kippa, you know. But the left, it's worth listening to or worth watching because he just goes through, oh, well, the left captured this particular institution, the administrative judges so that they don't, don't commit, you know, they don't prosecute crimes or they don't, or the DAs, or this particular legal thing so that we couldn't do this. Or they took away all my campaign funds so I had to like almost bankrupt myself defending myself with lawyers or, you know, this, that or the other thing, right? Like, like Mark Stein, the former communist at National Review, he's been in a lawsuit for, I want to say 10 years against Michael Mann, the guy that did the hockey stick graph. you know like he said this was fraudulent BS in a blog post and this case has gone on for 11 years and Mark Stein's very famous famous phrase of the process is the punishment right this whole system is illegitimate right Peter I says the wrong thing on a podcast and all of a sudden we get sued

this the suit's completely frivolous it's nonsense it's totally total BS it doesn't matter they know that it's BS. The problem is they want to bankrupt you with lawyers so you have to sell your house or you're going to do all this other stuff. They want discovery.

They want, you know, look at the Charlottesville lawsuit. It was nonsense. Total nonsense. But the whole point was to just bankrupt people with lawyers. So if this system makes it impossible for your children to have a family, makes it impossible for you to live in safe home, makes it impossible you afford, you know, transportation, makes it impossible for you to

live a life where, uh, anything approximating what your ancestors led. Why do you still support it? Why do you, why do you think there are rules? There's just power, bra. Like, there's, there's, there's the people who have it and they want to use it on you in a malicious and evil fashion. Stop pretending that there are rules. I mean, I can't help, but let me find the article here. Justice Report, the news site associated with the National Justice Party, did a story on Section 8 in Texas, right, and people got stabbed. within like hours of the, you know, Section 8 housing being allowed in this neighborhood.

You know, so why? Yeah, in the studying blow to public safety, Texas lawmakers have now made it illegal for housing authorities to bar Section 8 tenants from branding in their neighborhoods. Welcome to Providence Village. predominantly the white town in North Texas, rife with black violence. Thanks to Republican politicians now has no way of stopping the tide of Section 8 tenants from destroying a once

safe community. I'm going to throw you a link here, Pete. But why is this legitimate? Why are we even pretending this is something that these people, like they're not playing by rules except we hate you and want you to die. That's the rule.

we we you know to quote the great Sam Hyde they want you dead and broke and they think it's funny yeah yeah yeah that's that's another thing I wrote you know I asked some questions in my substack yesterday it's you know for civic nationalist it's I'm trying to figure out what they what they think the end game is what do they think like should you be forced to live next to people who hate you Should people who hate you have a direct say in your life? How about in the way you're governed? Who are you content with sharing a polity? Why are you content with sharing a polity with people that hate you?

Why are you truly unaware that people hate you and what you did? What is it going to take to wake you up to that fact? Why wouldn't you want to be surrounded by people who think and act like you do? And I will add and look like you do. Why are the why is why are questions like that a threat to the civic religion? Use it an example. I would be perfectly happy. I prefer to live on some land by myself.

But, you know, if I got a little bit older and didn't want to mow the lawn and all that stuff, if I could live in a, you know, reasonably private condo with. you know, my kids are out of the house or whatever, and Pete Canones was on the other side on my white wall. You know, I'd have you over to grill out every other Tuesday. Like, oh, it's Tuesday. We're headed over to Canonaz's house to, you know, Canonis's condo to have a couple glasses of wine and grill some steaks. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. The problem is, is if you share a common wall with people who, I don't know, don't know how to

to change smoke detector batteries. And frequently, you know, like African immigrants who frequently like cook using charcoal. That could cause some real freaking problems, man. I'm calling it, I'm saying that

like our national religion now is smoke detector, smoke detector nationalism. It's like, I don't know if you saw the meme, but like, Enheeled the Grass Tyson saying I know why the caged hallway chirps. Yeah, yeah.

Did you see that one of the video of Kevin Samuels, rest in peace, shouldn't have taken the jab? Yeah, that was hilarious, but also terrible. I mean, what a great loss. What, yeah.

Yeah, like, what do you mean? The hallway just do that? How can you live next to someone who can't take basic precautions of like not making your, sure, your mutual dwelling? doesn't go up in a fire. I don't even think it's the question of how you can.

It's why would you want to? And what is it in this religion of this Nash, of this constitutionalism, America, whatever you want to call it, what is it that forces you to think that you have to, that you have to accept the fact that this person who can't change a fucking battery is that they should have any say in your life. Why would you want to be around?

What is, what is wrong with you that you've been, is it because you think you're going to be, people are going to think you're a hateful bigot? Who cares? They're going to think you're a hateful bigot no matter what? Yeah. What have the last 10 years taught you?

Have they taught you anything? I mean, I was thinking about this the other day. Now, 2013 was a pretty pivotal year because this year Barack Obama started his second term and Pope Francis came on board. And to me, that's the year that like everything was just illegitimate. Now, I don't know if Barack Obama stole the election or not. Frankly, I don't think there's been an honest election in Philadelphia since, I don't know, ever. But at least, at least in the 20th century. Like, there's never been an honest election in Philadelphia in the 20th century.

So, right? And this is one of those things where, to your point about the substack. Like, why should anyone in Philadelphia have the vote? Why should they choose anything? Look at their community. Look around. It's full of trash. Look at Kensington right now and tell me that anyone who lives in Kensington

should have a say in anything. Find the one dude who's on his mowed in that neighborhood and make him king of the block. Right? Like, find the one dude in that neighborhood who mows his lawn and keeps his house decent. And just hand him high, middle, and low justice. Like, yeah, you can shoot anybody you need to shoot or whatever.

Just make this community worth living in for decent people again. You don't understand. If we have the ability to choose who we associate with, China is going to march right in here and take us over. This is, you know, I'm not even, that's not even a straw man. People say that shit all the time. if there's a session and, you know, this, the country broke up in six or seven different pieces, China would march right in.

How is China not marching right in when you have a guy who's shitting himself in the White House and you have a trans military? Well, the Chinese have dirt on. Like China doesn't need to march anywhere. They own the White House. Clinton started selling the Democratic Party to the Chinese in the 90s. Does anyone else remember that? You know, a California senator had a Chinese spy being their private limo driver for years.

The Chinese own the West Coast Democratic Party. California, Washington, Oregon. They have huge intelligence gathering operations at every major university in America, a Confucius center. You think that they... Well, they need to physically conquer America. No, they don't. No, they don't. they've already they'll get it without firing a shot yeah i heard um this this baptist church down in

auburn was uh talking about how they were moving to a bigger place because they were growing and they're like yeah and you know this building we're going to use the money we sold from this building um you know we sold it to the chinese bible study that's been meeting here i'm like no you just sold this to china yeah yeah as chinese bible study uh is not buying the building. I'm sorry. Sorry to tell you guys. No. No, they're not. Well, and even if they are, you know, good, solid, let's just for a second assume that these are the persecuted minority of Christians in China, which is a real thing. Chinese Christians are horribly, horribly was treated. Um, what are they doing in Alabama? Like, bro, why are you here?

here. Like, we needed one other, like, strange, unassabled minority. Like, like, we kind of have the one we, the one we have is enough. Why are you here? Well, I think it's a lot, a lot come from China to study at Auburn, and then they, uh, they end up staying. Why? I don't. Why is Auburn being like, oh, it's okay. Well, like, we'll just have. Because it would be, it would be racist to, to say that certain people can't live in certain places. But it's not racist or evil to just price out, like, ordinary people from living in certain places. Like, oh, you're a middle class person.

You don't deserve to be safe when you sleep at night. Or it's not evil or racist to, if people want to be a citizen of your country to make them take a blood test. And, yeah. Can't get married by the approval of a religious. authorities. Yeah. Oh, and you can have a wall.

Yeah. And ethno, and, uh, tariffs and, um, yeah, my, my Holocaust, bro. Mahalha. Holocaust. Right. Well, that's, that's why, uh, the reason I wanted to talk about this and thank you very much for having me on and indulging in the discussion is, this is all on purpose.

It's being done deliberately. and as doing Thomas is so brilliantly explicated, it's the Nuremberg regime. The second you say, and I've seen this happen, right? The second you say, well, I, I just think that we should do something

to make sure that ordinary people should be able to, like, have a decent house and live decent. You know, within three steps of the argument, you get to, well, but that's the Holocaust. It's not, even it's not even

exaggeration. If you say, okay, well, we need to control immigration because it's driving up housing prices and it's making certain things unlivable. Or we need to not allow section 8, like in the article I just sent you.

You know, in Providence Village so we can, people can afford to live here and be safe. Like, well, that's racist. No, it's not. It's just, you know, investing on certain standard behavior. well, the disparate impact. Well, who cares about disparating if that's just the way people are?

What are you? Some kind of Nazi you think everyone is like determined, behaviors determined by genetics and no black people are capable of behaving decently? I didn't say that. But the odds are pretty good that they're not. So what? It's like I've told people. I've had a lot of black friends in my life.

And as individuals, I'm fun. Once they get into groups, that's where the problem starts. No matter how good, no matter how good they are. Everyone's got a cousin Pookie. It's going to be staying over at his Cudden House for the weekend. Cutting Pookie is going to have eight buddies that are all members of the Crips. And someone's going to invite a game member of the Bloods over and they're going to start shooting each other.

And lo and behold, you're going to start digging 45 slugs out of your wall. Or pardon me, nine millimeters, not 1978 anymore. You're going to start digging out. And then do you go, oh, well, this was fine? Or do you move? Or the easier thing to say this is, hey, look, decent, well-functioning black dude. Yeah, there was, there was a shooting. Solve your problems.

Solve your problems in your community and don't make your problems my problems. About 40 minutes out to me in a town called Dadeville, there was a shooting at a sweet 16 party a few months ago. this was like just before we moved up here. And, you know, it was all, it was the usual suspects. And of course it was. Yeah. Every single time it's that way. Yeah.

And you, when I went on, there was, there's a guy who knows like these YouTube videos and he goes around to like Alabama towns and he just like drives to German reviews them. And he like just all of a sudden did this special video where he was saying, you know, the reason that this happened is because of racism. The reason that these black people are killing each other is because of historic racism here. And I'm like, you stupid fucking Mexican. I mean, what the fuck are you even talking about? And that's what they go.

Their brains are, I mean, and this guy, this isn't a guy who's like openly lying, you know, who's just like going on there to propagandize. He's like being all emotional. And this is what his emotions bring out. His emotions bring out that the reason black people kill each other is because at some point in time they were slaves or their ancestors were slaves. Never mind that the, the never mind that the ancient Egyptians said they're these people are like this and it's literally the exact same. They're dumb. They're violent.

they're, you know, much, you know, like Arab slave traders are written about how they're much akin, you know, like Indian slave traders, like literally every, everyone from all over the world, Europeans, Arabs, subcontinental Indians, Egyptians, they've all had the same, the exact same. Yeah, it's, it's, it's really interesting when all, when a whole bunches of groups in different civilizations have the same opinion. about certain groups of people. And you're supposed to ignore that, like every single one of them was wrong. Yeah. Across thousands of years. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we're not, yeah, we're not talking about, oh, you know, from 1619 to 1865. No, we're talking about like thousands of years. And thousands of miles. Yeah. Every country, groups go into. Right.

People are like, we can't live with. them. And another group that same thing applies to us are Hebraic friends, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like, well, yeah, I mean, it's the old joke. You know, if I had, if I had a hundred and nine girlfriends who kicked me out of their house, I guess I, you know, I had a hundred and nine shitty girlfriends who were just, you know, they just hated me because of who I am. Yeah, that's it. You know, I'll close with this. I put this up on telegram a few days ago. number one, our places are nice. They suck.

Two, they'll never leave us alone. Three, they'll follow us everywhere we go. Four, they're completely unreasonable. And five, they're trying to make it impossible to tell the truth about items one to four. Yeah. That's the, that's the root of the housing crisis right there. Because the second somebody gets some money, like, you know how the media lies and tells, all these people that like, let's be honest.

Just, just like, like, I've seen better looking girls at like the checkout at Costco than are like beauty present winners in Africa. Like, straight up. Just like go to your local Costco. And, and, and, you know, in a decent, decent area, right? And she's going to be, you know, to find a girl that's just better looking than, you know, beauty pageant winners.

in Senegal or Congo or wherever. Right. Or Bolivia or whatever. Or Miss Bolivia is going to be like 97% you know, Iberian. Yeah. Right. Or German. Yeah.

Something like that. But the, they're told, oh, all these gorgeous women are interested in you. you just need to get there and they'll throw themselves at your feet. Of course, that's a lie and it's not true, but that's what they're told, right? And speaking of, like, people who are earning too late, I know you saw this and I hope you find this as hilarious as I did. You know, old Megan McArdle, right? I am finding it increasingly difficult to general explanations for El Salvador's crime decline other than, quote, absolute savagery works. Like, this is the problem.

Like, okay, Megan McArdle, childless woman who married a Jew, just been yamering on about freedom and markets and libertarianism for the 20 years or 25 years I've been following politics. You know, you've literally wasted millions of people's time. Like, all you've done is just lie. I don't even think she did it on purpose. I think she's just not capable of abstainment of the truth because she's a woman.

She's been married to a Jew who doesn't have any children. But this is what we're trying to stop. It's like, yes. Yes, Naïbe Bukeli is the greatest statesman in the Western Hemisphere, possibly the world. Why? Because he just said, hey, you have a face tattoo. You should probably be in jail. Like, if you have a gigantic 13 tattooed on your forehead, I'm just going to go with,

you're probably a member of a criminal gang. And we're going to throw you in jail. And they have up there, you know, that's, I mean, the guy is, the guy's cleaned up his country. I mean, the guys, I mean, you. I think somebody on his on his behalf made some claims about murder disappearing, but that doesn't happen when you have humans. But, I mean, the murder rate in El Salvador has just dropped.

You know, so I mean, what's the problem? Right. It's like people are safe. Ordinary decent people are safe now. No, it's, I mean, when I saw what he was doing, I'm like, and? that we should be doing that here. I wish we had someone who would do that here. He's like, oh, well, if somebody, once somebody does that,

there are going to be, you know, innocent people are going to be swept up in it and everything like that. It's like, I'm, I'm, okay, and innocent people, innocent people always get hurt. I mean, it's, that's how this works. And innocent people are going to get, like, speaking of innocent people getting hurt. I'm sure you saw the video of those two teens in Las Vegas running down that old man on the bicycle. I mean, you mean the two, the two obviously Hispanic teens that when they were booked, their race was put down as white?

Well, I think one guy was black and one guy was Hispanic with like a face tattoo. Okay. Okay. Like he has a tattoo on his cheek. Just throw him in jail. Just anybody with anybody with anybody with? the tattoo above the collarbone. They obviously make bad decisions. You know, is she like, you know, is the person with a tattoo like, you know, a dumb 19-year-old

white girl will be like, yeah, sweetheart, get that removed. Or is you like a dude with like teardrop tattoos on his next to his eye? Like, just take that guy and throw him in jail. Or make it possible so that you can write a law that says like, hey, decent people with families don't have to live around dudes with face tattoos. And that's the thing. why is housing costing so much? Well, because you're paying a premium to get away from people who will do things like randomly run down old men on bicycles.

And even then, that's no guarantee that you're going to be able to, like, avoid it. And this is the problem, is that ordinary decent Americans have been in, like, conservative types, have been gaslit into almost being kind of pseudo-libertarian because

they can't actually collectivize anything because that's Nazism of, of not being able to advocate for themselves and believing that there are individual solutions to collect the problems is nonsense. And so when Glenn Beck tells you, oh, we just need to go back to the Constitution and everything will work out. No, what you need to do is pass a law that says decent people deserve to live free. is free from impediment by undecent people as possible. And if you're this sort of dude

who's dumb enough to get a tattoo on your face, ordinary people should be like, yeah, I don't want to live around you. Well, you saw what, you saw Glenn Beck's latest, right? For me yesterday. Yeah, making the sign of the cross in front of a Jew.

You should know that that's not allowed. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm going to do it. Now I'm going to do it all the time. Now I'm just going to walk around doing it. Yeah. Well, he's an apostate who's, yeah, not a big fan of Mr. Beck.

But, and he knows exactly what we know. He knows everything we know. He just, someone sold him. He was getting down the rabbit hole back in like 2011, 2011, 2013, and someone showed him just, you know, the other side of the Zepritor film. It was told, this is how far you can go in no farther. And that's what he did. but but pretending that there's that right yeah how many problems could be solved if you just said hey look no no one with a face tattoo no one in ms 13 no one no you know no black man

between the ages of uh i don't know 12 and 50 yeah so right somebody commented it under one of my posts on twitter yesterday and he said um talking about you know just getting called fascist he said fascism possesses perennial appeal for a reason. It is ultimately the ideology of unvarnished nature. Accusing someone of being a fascist is to accuse them of being a human being unaccustomed to self-cuckery. Many more such cases will appear. Yeah. You're the ideology of water was wet and fired burns.

Yep. basically. And I like people who come at me and they're like they're like oh fascist. You know the fascist. The fascist would have killed you, right? And I'm like, so you've never heard of the Falunge in Spain, right?

Are you people retarded? Well, yeah, they are. That's the problem. They don't know. That literally I mean, Bidcon Quisling has been his name has been maligned to the point of, right?

He was a Lutheran. Oswald Mosley was Anglican. Yeah. Cajrani was Orthodox. Metaxus was Orthodox. Franco and Salazar were Catholics. Mussolini was a Catholic. The Arrow Cross Party was Christian. And this isn't me saying this.

This is Paul Gottfried saying this. Fascism is the liturgical Christian response to Bolshevist subversion. That's all it is. and you can't and for all those people who you know the the uh catholic types who want to just restore uh you know like distributism or whatever like i i get the idea it's very attractive here's the thing if you live in a world where your artisanal handmade widgets cost 10 times as much and take three times as long to produce as

the mass-produced widget down the street and the mass-produced widget down the street is 90 or 95% as good as your artisanal hand-produced widget, you're going to get buried. And you can't undo

the Industrial Revolution. You're never, you're never, like, look at what's happening in Ukraine right now. Well, our artisanal hand handmade artillery shells are morally superior to the mass-produced artillery shells of the Russians. How's that working out?

It's a production game, and it has been for 400 years. You know, England was able to win because they were to build more ships. The only reason the Soviets didn't lose World War II is we, the United States, produced tons and tons and tons of stuff and sent it to them by the truckload. We sent them 10,000 aircraft from Montana up through Canada, through Alaska, and all the way across Siberia. Literally halfway around the world, the long way. Like, that's some dedication. And it's literally just the stuff making stuff. The Chinese will beat the pants off of us in whatever war that, you know, a war over Taiwan,

because the Chinese can actually make things. The Russians are winning their war because they can make. things. And you know what? In China or Russia, they don't waste money on financial schemes and constantly

swapping properties back and forth because they constantly have a move away from people who have tattoos in their face and run down old men in the street. I'm pretty sure if you did that in China just randomly were a non-Chinese person who just randomly ran over

a old Chinese man in the street and then posted up on our social media, I'm pretty sure the Chinese, you wouldn't even make it to the courtroom. Now, China's a sociopathic, you know, bug people countries, so they do randomly just run each other over. But I'm pretty sure that if you were a non-Chinese person who just killed an old Chinese man who was well respected in his community, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be this whole hand-wringing about whatever caused him to, you know, do this. you know, there wouldn't be people, you know, to get back to your point about the dude who went to this thing in Alabama, you know, this Mexican guy who's here's, oh, gosh, this racist.

Why should I share a community? Why should I be forced to share a polity with someone who's too stupid to understand that is racial? Yeah. Why? You shouldn't. You shouldn't, I mean, you know, that's culture is everything. and there is no civic national. That's not a culture. That's just a, I don't even know what it was.

And until you deal with all of these problems, right? Until you deal with the racial incoherence, until you deal with the violence, until you deal with the usury and the central banking, right, people just aren't going to be able to live decent. And we're not talking like super extravagant homes or anything like that. We're talking a home for a family.

Yeah. And it could be, it could be, it could just be, you know, a three-bedroom apartment in Queens or a row house in Philadelphia. We're not talking, you know, lords of broad acres here. We're talking ordinary people living decent lives

in a decent place that they can afford. Yes. Well, let's end it. I'm going to go about my day. I always appreciate talking to you. Do you want me to plug your Telegram channel? Is there anything else? Yeah, I've got the two,

I'll send you both, one's app band, so if you're still foolish enough to, if you're still foolish enough to not download directly from Telegram, first of all, get off of Apple just because, but if you're still downloading directly, like download directly from telegram.org and install or use a fork or something like that.

But, you know, all the interesting stuff is app banned because someone said something spicy and true. Like, it's banned because it's true. It's not banned because if I was saying that the moon was made of green cheese, no one would bother banning me. It's because I've said true things that offend the regime. That's why I've been banned from things. Yep. Yep.

Telegram always get it off of a get it off their website and never get it off the app store app store will censor there'll be things people will be sending you things and you'll like I can't read it and then you'll you'll know why because you got it off the app store get it off their website every everything I have telegram downloaded on came off their website so I can see everything so all right Dee appreciate it always thank you thank you very much Pete well I mean people can back this up and start. Let's just get going and keep you waiting here. Everyone, I want to introduce you to Dark Enlightenment. And how are you doing today? Great, man. Thanks for having me. It's been a real pleasure getting to be your friend and get to know you and listen to your program.

And I've got to say, I've gone through probably at least 100 episodes of the Pete Kinarnie show. I think my first discovered you like last year on Tom Woods's show or something. And I forget exactly how I found you, but I did. And then I've just eaten it up and you've been kind enough to have me on multiple times and I really appreciate it. And I really love the program and it's kind of cool that we're buddies. I find that amazing. Yeah, I appreciate the kind words. I really do.

I enjoy your work a lot too. you are a fan favorite whenever you come on. I've made that astonishing, really. I do. I find that really weird. It's good to be here. Yeah, now that we finish jerking each other off. Well, you know, why don't we start with this?

I mean, the whole Prager thing is your origin story, you know, is a part of your origin story. I believe, I believe it's one of those things that, you know, you look at and you're like, Oh, that's what got me here. But then you look at it, you're like, this is really evil. But you want to start just talking about some current events and you want to talk about this? Yeah. So, Aaron McIntyre, actually, who's on the blaze. He's on Glenn Beck's network.

I think it's astonishing that that's a real thing. But you know, had a show yesterday, day before, something like that, talking about this whole Satanism in the Iowa State Capitol thing. And he did a fantastic job. well, dismantling the whole, but my first amendment requires us to let Satanists, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. And anyone who says it does is an enemy of civilization and not a conservative. They're a flaming communist who should be exiled from the public square at a bare minimum and put in summer camp. Most of them should be put in summer camp and everyone else should be, you know, barred from the public square.

and you know what are we talking about that privately about how it's just so absurd and anyone who you know wants to claim to be a libertarian or wants to live in an order liberty society like you can't have people whose whole idea of the good is there is no good you know let be evil thou my good as as as Milton put it right you can't have a society with something like that you can't have a society for some someone who thinks that something like abortion and you know like is a positive good and that they should be more of them and that it's a useful thing for society. Like, you know, I'm against it 100% and I, someone who like reluctantly comes to the conclusion that it's necessary in certain limited cases might be, you might be able to share a society with that person. Right?

The safe legal rare, you know, bullshit from, can we swear? I'm sorry. Yeah. Anyway, Clinton was lying when he said that. But,

but, you know, if someone who genuinely believe that, you might be able to share a society with that person. The people who think, like, oh, it's a positively good thing, and I celebrate it, and every abortion is wonderful, and I think abortion is great. And I think, you know, no, there's no, there's no society with that person. And any Hopian who, or any libertarian who thinks that you can is either a joke or evil. And I was just thinking about, like, how did I get here such that, and for those you don't know, I'm in my mid-40s, graduated high school in the late 90s.

90s. And I drove for a living for many years after that. So I got a lot of drive time, a lot of windshield time. This was before podcast, really a thing. And I was a late adopter. So I listened to a lot of different talk radio sports. You know, at one time, brother, I had like three or four different local stations, you know, like, oh, such and such as rush and such and such as, you know, Sean Hannity and whatever.

And to be honest with you. like Sean Hannity actively cultivates an audience that's stupid like Sean Hannity is stupid and he's listening to him makes you stupid and he wants his audience to be stupid so when you get somebody like Mark Living or Dennis Prager or

Michael Medved or anyone of the other notice with all three of those guys have in common besides being talk show host they are deliberately trying to cultivate that audience that's maybe a little bit more on the ball, supposed to like the 97 IQ carpenter guy

who's like, I love America and big trucks and war. Sean Hannity said so, right? I mean, there's nothing wrong with that guy that couldn't be fixed by fixing the source of information as the Trump's campaign shown. But for the most part, you know, certain talk show hosts cultivated, you know, an audience that was more interested in ideas. And to give you an example,

Dennis Prager who didn't graduate but attended Columbia for graduate school and was invited to write for National Review and other places in his early 20s has three different

set hours on his show where he'll talk about what he calls the ultimate issues hour you know like atheism God things like that and the male female hour, right? So he'll kind of do proto red pill stuff like that.

And he'll, and he'll do the happiness hour, right? So he's got, of the 15 hours a week, he's got on his program, he'll dedicate three hours to these kind of sort of, kind of edgy issues. And he doesn't do that because he wants people to have more information.

Dennis Prigger knows everything you and I know. He's a talk show host. Everyone who's an intellectual has known everything we know. all read the bell curve back in 1994. All of them did. If you didn't read the bell curve in 1994, then you're not an intellectual, period. And it's your job to read things like the bell curve or race war in high school,

which Pete and I read. You can check that out on the channel or any number of things, right? Or more recent book, Christopher Caldwell's Age of Entitlement. So Dennis knows all this stuff. And his job, I came to figure out later, and I figured it over time. was to provide a functioning liberal society that let his people get away with whatever it is they get away with, as much as they can get away with while providing a stable functioning society for them to pariside off of.

And that's essentially what the Levin's and the Prager's and the other. you know, Jewish toxo hosts, that's their job, is to provide enough of a rationale for conservatism to, you know, for society to function. You know, Ben Shapiro is not just stupid. You know, the dude graduated Harvard at like 20 or something. He's, he's going to college early, super smart guy. So why is he in favor of all this stuff that's not true? Why is he a talk show host? Yeah. There's the question.

Somebody who graduates Harvard at 20, why is he a talk show host? Right. You know, Michael Medved went to school with the Clintons. I can't remember which school he went to, but he's, you know, like, you know, why are these people in these places? And the answer, of course, is that their job from, the system is to corral the right-wing populist reaction

against this stuff, against the destruction of the country, against the needless of those wars, against the massive inflation. I mean, we're roughly the same age, give or take five, six years. Was $20 an hour good money when you first started working? If I had made $20 an hour when I first started working,

I would have easily been able to buy a house. It's not even survival wage now. So that's in one working lifetime. 30 years, $20 went from being, you know, like you could support a family on $20 an hour. Like you could work and your wife could stay home type money or wife could work part time kind of money. And now I just saw something, someone posted on Twitter. I can't remember who I'd love to give them credit. But someone did an inflation adjustment calculation of whatever, you know,

Bradgett paid or Bob Cratchett got paid in a Christmas Carol. And it was worked out to 1870, 1847 an hour inflation. So rather than engage in a systematic critique, right, of why has the value of money halved in, you're in my working lifetime, right? why are there $450 billion, half a trillion dollars has been spent on the new arrivals in America just since Biden took office.

Half a trillion dollars. The debt service is now more than the Defense Department. The three million illegal, like ask the average person who listens to NPR, right? How many illegal immigrants do you think came just in the Biden administration? Like, oh, you know,

A million maybe. No. It's three million or more, right? And that's destroyed the country. I mean, it has to be more than that. Oh, it's definitely more than that. But they'll admit to $3 million. Admit to at least $3 million.

Yeah. Right. I mean, it's probably, I would say, $5 million a year. It's probably $15 million in the last three years. Oh, probably. And again, right? You know, if you're a serious intellectual, if you're an honest person, you've read things like the age of entitlement, you read the bell curve, you've read Jared Taylor, you've read, you know, race war in high school, there's nothing and or, you know, the coming AI revolution. You think about these things. What are these, you know, 87 IQ mestizos from Wauca and Guatemala and El Salvador going to do in a world where there's AI everywhere? they're going to help libertarians and NCAPs build Ancapistan.

How? That's what that's what I understand. I mean, they're just not. Like this is the, this is the like borders are like a spook, man. It's just an imaginary line in the sand, bro. Yeah. You know, unfortunately there's a lot of that. It is.

and right like what did what did what did Han say those who embrace non-family-centered lifestyles must be

physically removed from society is that the correct quote I think that's the one that's stepping out to me it's pretty close yeah

right so wait a minute like you've got this mass invasion of military age men from South America and from you know into Europe

it's from Africa and Arabia like they're never you know between AI and the downward uh the downward uh the downward pressure on you know slipping another rung as middle class jobs become done by AI and then you know people who would have done those middle class jobs get pushed down the scale there's nothing for these people to do and a serious society would would address these problems the talk shows would talk about them. Right. This question that was just asked, I mean, I think it's a fair question, but Flash

asked is a fair to say that Connink is the gateway dose to this kind of circle for some people. And I would say, yeah, that sum, though, is very small, is that most people get stuck in there and they never leave it. Yeah, Scott says Bill Buckley worked for the CIA. That's the origin of Connick. Like, yep, that's true. But think about this. Okay. I don't know if I've ever told a red pill story to this audience, but it'll be very brief.

I graduate high school late 90s. And I did a job that had a lot of windshield time and kind of worked in Republican politics a little bit. You know, just volunteering and that kind of thing at my state. And I was very enthusiastic. about George W. Bush because, like, we'd been attacked, and I was like, oh, thank God, Al Gore didn't get elected. Things would be a disaster.

We need to go get them at your abs. You know, and, I had a lot of time to listen to a lot of different talk radio. And a lot of time, you know, I'm listening to NPR and I listen to Rush and I listen to sports. And, you know, when you're driving eight, ten hours a day, you get some time to, you know, you know, when the commercial breaks are and you skip them.

Right. And I remember the first two years of the Bush administration, we got nothing done. Like, there was 50 U.S. senators who were Democrats who were U.S. senators or Republicans, and the system said, oh, we can't do anything. 50 senators that you need 51 to pass things. So there was a complete waste, the first two years of Bush administration. In 2002, Republicans get 55 senators and the Supreme Court and the president, who was a conservative Christian evangelical. He's going to, we're going to repeal Roe v. Wade.

We're going to, you know, pass school choice. We're going to privatize Social Security. Let's go, right? We're going to, you know, we're going to do something. Ooh. And, of course, you know, all we got for that was a last. That was the unwinnable war that killed millions of Christians in Iraq and, like, destroyed their country. Now my cab drivers are all like Assyrian Christians, Kaldian Christians from Mosul who, like, got out with, you know, nothing.

And so, right, and then I helped with the Tea Party stuff. And, again, that got, we got nothing. And Connink, you know, it puts you in this box and gives you these pseudo-solutions because fundamentally they're liberals. Establishment conservatives are large L liberals. They are Lockhean liberals. The conversation, politically speaking, is between the left who says to conservatives, you are bad, Rawlsian liberals. And the conservative say to the liberals, you are bad,

Locky, and liberals. And they're both right, because they're both wrong. Liberalism, capital L liberalism, is impossible to salvage because the only way to make anything actually work in liberalism is to make an unprincipled exception, right, is to go to your Schmidt and say,

yeah, we're not doing that. We're saying, no freedom to do this thing. No freedom to, well, what if the child consents though, right? Like, nope. What about Satan? Public Satan? Nope.

Right? Any society has an official religion. This whole Satanism in Iowa, like, okay, the First Amendment, as interpreted, effectively mandates state atheism. Because it says no truth claim could be backed by. the force of the state. No truth claim, can we, can we, there's no truth claim in this society that is just assumed as valid. Every

truth claim is equally invalid because Pete can say, create the one unum damn and I can be like, I don't think that God exists at all and we could both be like, well, you're wrong and I'm wrong or whatever. And the effective

what has effectively happened due to positive law and frankly Jewish lies is no society or no no legal framework exists for us to just say no this is beyond the pale of what we're able to tolerate you know i'd be okay with the society and say yeah you have to be able to like believe the apostles creed and in the energy of scripture to hold office yeah there's a um a friend of mine sent me this it was an article it's up in winnipeg in canada and we know how screwed Canada is.

It's basically an article celebrating an LGBTQ plus reimagining of Handel's Messiah as a way to push back expectations. And, you know, they basically said nothing musically is altered, but we're swapping gender roles subverting them, said Poole, who is gay in conducting the concert. Well, I'm sorry, but in my libertarian paradise. I'm going to crush those people.

Yeah. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen in public. Right. Yeah. It's not going to happen in public. The people who did the Biden family Christmas, you know, dance thing, the LMNOP QR QR QR QR QR QR QRty thing with the strange,

you know, White House Christmas stuff. They should all be arrested. Yeah. The people tearing down the, you know, reconciliation monument at Arlington, right, like we're wanting to try that down. They shall be arrested. Yeah. I mean, deported, deported would be like, there'd be like conservative. It would be, yeah, I mean, deportation would be treating it nicely because a lot of people would like to go someplace else.

But if you just crush them, then people know. you're not going to do that in the future. Yeah. Well, and to, I kind of been rambling in. You're good. The problem is, right, there is no such thing as a secular society. This is one of Curtis Yarvins' great points. This is where I started breaking with the conservative, conservative ink.

Because I had the time to, like, work at, and I was a. single dude. I basically read at night and like listen to radio all day. And, you know, you can just see, right, that this whole idea of like, I have to tolerate Satanism. Well, that means just our religion is Satanism. If there's Satanist public memorials or Satanist public statues or we're tearing down Christian statues or tearing down the cross in San Diego or tearing down statues of Saints, St. Juno-Pedro-Sara in California, or attempted to down the sand of St. Louis in St. Louis, Missouri, or tearing down the statues of, you know, like, then we're just, our public religion is, you know, anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-male. That's just our public religion.

And you're going to have a public religion no matter what. This whole idea that, you know, positive law types who, oh, but the Constitution says, you know, well, if all truth claims are equally invalid or equally valid, then all truth claims are invalid. because if you can say the two and two and two is seven and we both have to be respected because of the First Amendment, then the First Amendment says you can lie, you can deceive people, and that's acceptable. Now, Thomas Jefferson, for all that he was a heretic and had lots of other bad ideas, I'm pretty sure, like he wouldn't have been okay with, and he was the most radical of all of them. I'm pretty sure, like, trannies in front of fifth graders would, old T.J. probably would have had you hung for that. I'm just going to guess. And certainly the men who fought the revolution, the average farmer who was in, you know, the Continental Army, they would have hung your really fast. There wouldn't have even been a discussion. And there's no, um, there's no way to reconcile. Certain visions of society.

All of our religious problems internally are, in fact, political problems. Bad people are in power. There's nothing, you know, Pope is a whole separate issue. But he's a bad person in power needs to be removed. All of our political problems are, in fact, a theological issue of, like, normal people think that they share base assumptions with the left, and they don't. Right? Leftists are evil, capital E, evil. And they're trying to destroy society. Because they hate Christianity.

They hate God. They hate white people. They hate men. They hate America. They hate Europe. They hate pretty much anything good in the world. If anything like established order or made things better or, you know, they hate it. They hate fossil fuels.

They hate all good things. And so society, you know, saying that the First Amendment, rather than saying that, you know, the Presbyterian, and the Methodist and the Baptist all can have like a church on Main Street and no one can say, well, you can't have a church here. It's not the same thing as saying like we have to have Satanists and Muslims and Buddhists and atheists be the moral arbiters of what's okay in our society. That's ridiculous. It's literally insane.

I just want to let everyone know. You can super chat on YouTube. You can super chat on entropy. It's Christmas time. If you, I'm not asking it. I'm not expecting anything from anyone. I know that people are spending money this time of year. So, yeah, if you want, only if you want to.

And yeah, but here, here's the thing, okay? All you have to do, once your eyes are open to this, you can go to any Dennis Prager type of person talk. Ben Shapiro talk when they're talking about liberty, when they sound like you're on their side, when they sound like they're on your side, ask what, you know, it's quibono every time. How, ask how they're benefiting from it.

And ask yourself this, how are they going to benefit from it? And is it really going to benefit you at all? or is it just playing to your principles? Does it sound really good and it sounds like your principles, but really if it happens, if whatever they're talking about, were to come into fruition, which it never does, how is it going to help you or is it going to benefit them? And then once you start asking that question,

you can start asking questions like, okay, if it's not benefiting me, it doesn't seem to be benefiting anybody around, me, it doesn't seem to be benefiting the United States at all, then who's it benefiting? Right. So Dennis Prager has his American Trinity that he's always talked about. He was pushing this many

years ago, but, you know, e pluribus unum, in God we trust, and what was the third one? Liberty? Let me look this up. But like, okay, but E pluribus unum, what?

like, which many are you talking about, Dennis? Am I supposed to, you know, 83 IQ Congolese that are literally incapable of making a living in America and are violent? Um, you know, like, like I'm supposed to just be pleurbous with them. And liberty, what, who's liberty? Like my liberty to say what I think?

Or, you know, there are more of these people, like they'll blaspheme our lord in public but if i say you know n-word in public right i'm gonna get fired what do you mean by liberty like liberty to do what you know about stuff in communism right like this is not and then you know in god we trust which god you know when when dennis prigress is god and i say god we you're using the word but we don't mean the same thing you know it's like what Israel Shahak talked about in Jewish history, Jewish religion, Jewish history is that

because the person in who's listening to the message from a preacher, a rabbi, doesn't matter, but he's specifically talking about rabbis, doesn't have to believe in the Kabbalistic spectrum of gods and their satanic kind of chance that they do and how they pray that Christians would die three times a day. But over centuries, what they're teaching their people actually starts to resonate in a way. And I compare it to the fact that most people walking around the United States do not, can't quote the U.S. Constitution, but they have an idea. They're walking around with the spirit of it, even though it's a dead, even though it's dead. There's nothing it can do. They're walking around with the spirit of it. And that's really bad because they're expecting

the Constitution to save them. In much the same way, you know, the average person who's sitting in who's sitting there listening to somebody talk who has very is a Satanist basically is teaching their people that's coming out and it's affecting them even though they don't know it does that make sense yeah and again or in McIntyre he made it great points the left is correct about the Constitution it is a living document it is whatever people who are are alive today say it is, right? Because this is the problem with Protestantism and liberalism itself. Texts do not interpret themselves.

They have to be interpreted. So they're always mediated by men. And that's what the tradition is for. And that's what a hierarchy is for is so that you can say, no, this is what this is what this text means. And, you know, you might be you and your Bible. a tree or you and your constitution under a tree but the people with guns and 90% of your neighbors or whatever are going to say nope no we think it means this and if you disagree this we'll shoot you look at what happened to you know um

randy weaver right he had an interpretation of the constitution it was perfect far more in keeping with what the original intent was but the people with the guns said no we don't think that the Constitution means that. And, you know, look what they did to him. David Koresh, for all of his thought flaws, was a guy who believed in the Constitution, believed in the Bible, and the people who, you know, like, so this is what that whole, like, oh, well, don't compete for power because competing for power is immoral, you know, libertarianism, self-looking ice can cone stuff is nonsense.

It's because if you don't have any power, if your ideology is like, use, power is immoral, so I'm going to cede power to the people who use power against me. It's totally self-defeating. I can't remember when you posted it, but there's that hilarious meme of like, you know, the stick of state power where the dude in the no step on snake hat or stupe on snake t-shirt, it's like,

nope, using this would be immoral and then he gets beaten to death by like the dude with multiple hair and face piercings. Yeah. I remember which meme you, when you posted that, but I remember it was a while ago, yeah. I saved that meme, though. And because the, right, so if Dennis Prager said, look, I'm a Jew, we've done really well here in America. And people should, and Protestants were really good to us.

We should, you know, appreciate that and promote like Protestant, was Protestant Christianity in America. and we shouldn't undermine that society, right? So Dennis will actually very famously got in trouble, got in trouble for people with like saying, you know, Keith Ellison shouldn't have taken his oath of office when he was, House Representatives, when he was in the House of Representing from Minnesota.

And he took his oath of office on the Quran, right? But Dennis will sit there and go, well, you know, I mean, there should be Muslims in America. Like, like, we shouldn't get to be able to keep them out. We shouldn't just say, yeah, no, Muslims. No Negroes in the, like, it's perfectly reasonable to say, yeah, you know, on average, just Negroes aren't capable of, like, actually debating stuff. They're too narcissistic. They're too stupid. They're too, unable to, too unempathetic to really be representatives in

a representative democracy. So, yeah, we're just going to keep them out, right? Like, show me one who's done anything other than, like, pass money out. Or just make a fool of themselves. John Lewis, Sheila Jackson Lee. I mean, there's not one in the entire, you know. And something that just occurred to me, I posted a little bit about on Telegram.

Everyone, I assume, because you've, you knew Obama was gay in like 2007, right? Yeah, I mean, it was obvious, right? from the start. Right. Okay. So I was also one of those guys just like, this dude's gay.

Everyone, guys, gay. Right. And now, you know, 20 years later, right now.

Yeah. So he first came to prominence in 2002. Do you know how Star Trek is indirectly responsible for President Barack Obama? No. Okay. Funny story. Actress Jerry Ryan,

who played 7 of 9 on Star Trek Voyager. I know. I know. Right. And Boston legal and other stuff. She was married to a fellow who's literally named Jack Ryan, you know. Yeah. Dartmouth,

Dartmouth, Harvard educated investment banker guy, you know, who was like, they divorced in the late 90s and his divorce, their divorce records of like, he liked taking me to weirdos sex clubs and like showing off the fact that I was like super hot. I was like, well, that's a little weird.

But like if I was married to Jerry Ryan, I'd show off like, to be honest, fam, right? Like, maybe not that way. That's a little weird. That's a little uncouth. It shouldn't happen.

But, like, they'd been divorced for years by that point. And those records got unsealed. And those records were used to humiliate him. And basically, cost him race. He dropped out. And then they put up, like, a token opposition of, I want to say, Alan Keyes, who's actually not a bad guy. I remember.

Yeah. anyway so Barack Obama cruises to easy election in the Senate and then he gives that big speech at 2004 convention or maybe yeah 2004 when they nominated John Kerry and it's basically like

oh this guy's going to be you know it was obvious anyone who was watching it knew that they were grooming him yeah so like they knew he was gay the CIA knew he was gay back in like and like and um

I mean, I knew about Larry Sinclair in 2006 or 2007. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Right. So would he have made the Senate election? Would all those blacks in Chicago have voted for him if they knew he was gay? Would he have won the presidential election if John McCain had known? Like if John McCain said, my opponent is a closeted homosexual who uses crack cocaine.

Right? And this is all, I mean, if you look in the right places, Larry Sinclair, other people would have told you, right? A serious media, right? A serious conservative media, Dennis Prigert, well, I don't know, believe in. No. If you were really about winning, really about, like, Barack Obama did more damage to this country than any president we've ever had. And all these people who would decry, oh, look what he's doing, he's trying to divide us by race. Like, no, he's, of course he's trying to divide us by race.

He was probably born in Kenya. he's a mulatto he's gay his wife might be a tranny like I mean of course he's going to destroy this country he hates you

he hates you because you're white and because you're Christian his father was a black radical Muslim bigamist we're supposed to just sit here and be like oh this is okay you know like Ilhan Omar shouldn't be in the house

because like oh she married your brother or whatever like fraud but like just because I don't think that people from like the least functional society on earth should come to this country and be like, you know what? You guys need to change. You need even more like us. Like, no,

you just be quiet. Just be glad that you live in a society that functions and be quiet. And not only should you like be kicked out of Maine and kicked out of Minnesota, kicked all these other places that they're, you know, making significantly worse. But like, you shouldn't even get to complain.

You're a Somali. Like, your people. do tribal warfare and pirates. That's all you do. You're literally some of the dumbest people on the face of the planet. But a serious conservative media, and this is where Dennis Prager is such an effective gatekeeper, why Ben Shapiro is such a defective gatekeeper? Because he says, oh, the second you start bringing up IQ or sex realism, you're a Nazi. And that's, that's the, you know, that's the N word for white people, right? Nazi. And I know you've been dealing with that lately of people, you know, calling you Nazi for like, wait a minute. Yeah, I care. Right. Yeah. Yeah, but it's, you know, it's also like, it's like, oh, am I? I don't know. Never really thought about it. Right. Like, do I, do I subscribe to the tenants of national socialism? I never, yeah. Say what you will at least, but at least as an ethos, right? I mean, yes, thank you. That's a good one. So good. Right? Right. I mean, it's an ethos. I'm like these

Iowa, Donnie. And that's the Cohen brothers, like some of the most honest, like, self-loathing juices you've ever seen. But, like, you know, like, so why are these people not talking about that? Why are they not talking about the fact that, like, you know, at least 15 million, 15 million people were in this country, probably a full 15 to 20% of this country. at least, at least is illegal immigrants or their descendants. Their average IQ is 90 something. And we live in a society where, you know, Stefan Moly, God bless him.

I don't know what he's up to these days. But, you know, he pretty conclusively proved. Like, you can't have a democracy in a society where, you know, the IQ falls below 92. So how are these people going to, you know, make their way in the world? If they can't understand a budget, you know, the school district, something as simple as like your local school district budget.

And they can't understand it. How are they going to vote for people? How are they going to participate in, you know, town meetings? How are they going to go to the local school board? You know, they're not.

This is not, you know, this is supposed to be a republic of Anglo-Saxon yeoman farmers with like a sprinkling of like, oh, you're Italian. I guess you can come in. you know, like, there's, there was no.

I mean, I guess every society needs a couple of, you know, high time preference, Mediterranean's, right? Well, that's what you want your, that's who you want, you know, guarding your borders is people who smell of cynicism and garlic. I mean, like, hey, what are you doing here? Like, what do you? I don't trust you. Why?

You look funny. Right. Like, that's what we want. Right. But like if conservative media was serious, you know, and Tucker Carlson and Jack Posobic just had a conversation at human events where they conceded 90% of what we were saying 15 years ago. Because without, you know, the collectivism stuff. Because that's just where things are at. You know, my first presidential vote was for Harry Brown in 2000.

But so I've known about Congressman Paul for. close to 30 years now. And, you know, if that was the kind of libertarians we were talking about, we could live in a libertarian society. You know, personally, Ron Paul is about as conservative as you get, right? Keeps himself in good shape. You know, married to the same lady for, what, 60 years, something like that. Mm-hmm.

You know, no vices really. doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't, I mean, this is the kind of guy that our society was built for. And you can't have a society of, you know, and Carlson admitted it like, like in the Great Depression, you know, we had a post-Civil war, we had all these other things. Look around. How are we going to, you know,

in a serious conservative media would actually talk about this stuff. And so if you ask yourself the question, why don't they? Why isn't Ben Shapiro as a graduate of Harvard being like, what is this ridiculous woman doing as the president of Harvard University? You know, Adams's used to be the president. People who are related to the president, Quincy's and Adams's and, you know, real serious people from real serious families used to be the president of Harvard University. What is this ridiculous, plagiarist lady doing here?

And not one of them, not one of these conservatives will say it's because she's black and all black academics are frauds. All of them. You know, Cornell West is broke despite the millions of dollars he's been given because lo and behold, right, he's been married like five times and has multiple children out of wedlock and spends like a drunken sailor and like, oh, so he's just black. Right. My brother, what you must understand is that I have no impulse control and no time preference because of the, uh, natural environment in where my people's come from where food just fell out trees. And so we didn't have to plan for winter or anything. So I just, you know, I seize it and I grabs it and I likes it. And you can put a PhD behind my name, but I'm still just a, you know, shucking and jiving.

Like, that's and a serious conservative move. Dennis Prager, if he was serious, about preserving the, you know, Protestant Wasp America with, you know, a little bit of Catholics and the occasional Jew would call that out, would be honest about that, would say, hey, we want more white people. We want more Protestants.

We want more, you know, we shouldn't just be open to everybody. But that's what they are. They're open to everybody because a coherent Protestant America with a sprinkling of Catholics could actually oppose these people's agenda. And that's the, problem. That's why Ben Shapiro, who knows everything I know.

Right. He's read the bell curve. Ben Shapiro knows. Ben Shapiro knows absolutely everything I know in terms of race and IQ and time preference and all of that. He knows all of it. So why is he lying about who could come to America and be successful? Well, still on YouTube. I don't know if I want to say that, but. well right the question answers itself right you know right yeah i mean he's getting something personal out of it but not only is he getting something personal out of it but his first and he proved this and that's probably the best thing that's happened in the last couple months is the revelation that a lot of people see have realized that these are people who

And maybe it's not necessarily, it wouldn't be a bad thing if it wasn't so damaging to other people. But they had their, they should as well alone, perhaps. Their first, their first loyalty is to their own tribe. And that's not a bad, that's not a bad thing. The only problem is, is basically since 1945, they've made it criminal for anyone else to believe that and to live like that. Right. And that's the unprincipled exception of like those people, particularly conservative Jews, are all about advancing conservative Jewish interests. They'll rail endlessly, Dennis Bringer.

Why are so many Jews far leftists? Look, Dennis, I don't know. But it seems to me that if 90% of the Jews are far leftist, it seems to me it's pretty good odds or 80% or whatever it is, that I should be able to say, you know, I don't really want any Jews in my country because eight out of ten of them are far left communist agitators. and the dentist will say, well, you can't keep Jews out just because, you know, we're all a bunch of communist subversives. Well, why not? It's my country, isn't it? You know, Tucker Carousson, again, to bring up Tucker, you know, like, my ancestors fought in the war of 1812. This is my country.

What are you doing here? Why are you, you know, like? Who voted? I mean, who voted that APEC would have more power than any lobbying group in this country, in this country, right. Who voted for that? Who elected Larry Fink head of the financial markets? Why can the ADL and the SPLC?

I'm reasonably good at this, I think. Why can't I open my own drive time talk radio show and compete and have advertisers and say the things I say that are true, not behind a pseudonym? Oh, because the SPLC and the ADL and all these other Jewish NGOs would destroy my life. And that's one of the reasons I so admire you, Pete, is you just said, I don't care. And Mene Frego, as they say, and did it anyway. But like, why? You know, if we're all about the marketplace of ideas, why isn't there a real marketplace? Who's telling the truth, right?

And this is that unprincipled exception that they're always indulging it of like, you know, oh, racism is bad. well, first of all, define racism. And secondly, why is it bad? You know, you're racist against honkeys. Why can't I be racist back? Well, because you're colonizers. Isn't that the word colonizer? Those white people are colonizers.

Yeah, what about the Irish? Well, they all left to other places. So they have to reciprocate and let a bunch of people into their country because they all went to other countries. you mean white European countries that wanted them there? Like the Australian, Australia and New Zealand and America and Canada that were like, please show up, we need the labor, please.

Before there was a welfare state. Yeah. You know, it's a complete, right? The only consistent thing, and I know you know this, for the audience probably knows all this is the only consistent thing is it is against white Christian Western civilization. Right. It's just against that.

And that's the problem with Dennis Prager is, is a man I greatly admired who died about 10 years ago, closer to 15 now. But Larry Oster, I found him through his links to, you know, when I was still an establishment conservative, John Derbyshire and Steve Saylor and stuff would link him. And he was an immigration guy from back in the 90s. And he was himself ethnically Jewish, but he was a convert to Christianity and I think genuinely a convert. But he would attack Jews as like as like Dennis Prager is at the same time insists on the mass immigration of Muslims. It's like, okay, well then Dennis Prager is a subversive and he needs to go and he needs to be like banned off the airwaves because he's using his platform on the airwaves, the public airwaves to like destroy the country. so maybe that shouldn't be allowed. I know that it's kind of subversive that she's doing it from Sweden,

but at least Barbara Lerner-Spector comes out and says exactly what she's doing. I mean, it's subversive, but it's openly subversive. There are people in this country who believe people who, you know, call themselves conservatives, good people who believe Dennis Prager is their friend. Yeah, I've actually, when I was in college, I went to go see him. And there were lots of really wonderful low church Protestant people, the type of people who built this country for whom this country was built, you know, who, you know, Dennis, they would go and they would hear Dennis preach at their church

and how ethical monotheism is the mission of America, and American Israel are the two nations in the world who's, you know, reason to the etre is. is spreading, you know, ethical monotheism. And so, you know, you should love Israel and Jews. Like, it's really terrible. They've been lied to you so much. But that's what these people believe.

And it's really, really terrible. I'm going to go over. We got like four super chats. Eric says, for $3 over an entropy, Pete, you stay. native motherfucker. Yeah. Then he says $3, another $3.

He says, no offense taken. Manoan, who's been in the comments here on YouTube, this is Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thanks for all the good content. $50 super chat.

That's, thanks. Thank you, Minowen. I appreciate that. And tunes. Thank you for your generosity. Yeah.

And tunes, $5 super chat says, I've referenced DE's model of our guy our guy way forward multiple times this year. Death to America, long live Americans. Well, I'm glad I'm proving useful. I can't even remember what that is, but run my mouth so much that. I was trying to remember too. Yeah, well, thank you, great much. And, and you know, folks, I've given to Pete in the past. I plan to give more to Pete in the future. Support the people that support you. If you're still

paying for cable, please stop. Find, find decent people who are another thing to do, you know, pocket half your cable bill and save, you know, spend it on food because you need to anymore. But, um, um,

Dr. Prepper here says, I per, yes, I prefer open subversion to insidious subversion. That's why I think wokeness, open as he, whiteism is better for us than going back to fresh prints. At least enemies are showing themselves. exactly right that is completely true better someone just say I'm going to punch you in the face and try to punch you in the face than someone who's like I'm your friend and stab you in the back and it is the James Lindsay's and the Chris Rufo's and who else was losing their mind about the people who are

openly you know pro-god and against this whole Satan of subversion like James Lindsay was losing you know clutching his skirts about that I can't remember who else was doing it but I mean there was Jenna Ellis that was the the lawyer Trump Isn't she Isn't she Bush's daughter? No, no. This is this is someone different. She was Trump's lawyer.

Okay. Let me, well, Jenna Bush. Tunes answered the question. He said, he said what he's talking about are when he says

the hour guy way forward, a shed weight room, community utilities, everyone works for a local business. Oh yeah, okay. Yep, that's right. You know, I'm glad that that's proved useful. And, right, because planes are going to start falling out of the sky, right? Like, nothing works anymore.

You know, your local hamburger joint, instead of being ready in five minutes, it takes 15. And then you go inside and you look at, you know, and it's, you know, a four foot 11 tall and three foot 11 wide. Mastisa from Guatemala and a couple of Negroes from Africa and a couple other people of various, you know, backgrounds who knows what, a couple, a couple Asians maybe running this hamburger place. It's like, oh,

15 years ago, it was a bunch of like one 30-year-old white dude who was a manager and a bunch of white high school kids. This place hummed like a, you know, well-tuned guitar. Yeah. Why is, you know,

something as simple as your hamburger stand isn't, It doesn't function anymore. It's not going to get better, folks. You know, I mean, I'd be happy to be wrong, but if someone can show me a place where things are going to get better, you know. Yeah. You know, it's just not.

So, hey, Ann, and since, this is Merry Christmas and Happy Yule. Jim Bowden. Hey, Jim, Merry Christmas. It says Merry Christmas from Sydney, Australia. You know, M&I 1 says, you mean coming to America was fiction? Yeah. America on track to be Brazil,

2035 to 2040 and South Africa by 2060. That could go a lot quicker. Yeah. Well, in the Brazil, like, I wish I was able to do memes because like the, the Brazil, we thought we were going to get, you know, these gorgeous beaches with all these, you know, women with firm

posteriors and brief bikinis, right? And, you know, the Brazil you're actually going to get is all these like shanty towns made of corrugated bar corrugated bar cardboard and like tin roofs with sewage running down the street. Like, you know, the Brazilian vindication of America. Like, oh, a multicultural rainbow of hot women in like, barely there are bikinis.

Sounds awesome. Actually, no. Right? You're going to get the favelas. Actually, it would be the, opposite of what of that it would be the dialectical antithesis of that right um but yeah i mean it's it's gonna take something new and it's going to take going through going forward i mean there's no i don't think there's any way to hold on to like this the idea of this government I mean the only reason to even

think about taking getting power in this government is as defensive and offensive I mean that's the that'd be the only thing that you the only reason you'd want to do it because you don't want this anymore. This has to go and this can't be fixed. It's It's designed in a way that it can't be fixed.

The cancer is, the cancer can't be reversed. Right. Well, I mean, you remember, I still love Tom Woods. I owe Tom Woods a great deal. I don't think I'd be here today without him and a few others, but any idea that libertarians had of like making the argument and then convincing people should have been shot in the head and drug out back after 2020. right like like I'm sorry most people are sheep they're going to take the vax they let themselves get locked down they let the election get stolen that the these are these are not people capable of being free yeah right and you still see libertarians out there who are advocating for self-governance they're advocating for that no people need to be told what to do people I mean

I mean, if it gets bad enough, you're basically going to have to impose your will on people. Because if you don't, they're going to take you down. And that's why leadership, and that's why, you know, it's more about leadership and finding the right people now than it is about, you know, changing people, changing, oh, if we can just get 10% of the population to change their mind on something. That's just not it anymore. that's not it. That's not it. Never was. Am I wrong? Nope. Yeah. It's just, it just doesn't seem that it's, well, it's if, right, like, okay, so Prager gets millions of dollars to write books. He gets a nationally syndicated radio talk show where he makes

millions of dollars, you know, people advertise with them all the time. you're just as good as he is. I'm better than Sean Hannanay. I wouldn't say that I'm as good as Rushland-Boa, but you know, you and I are both pretty good at this whole like yak and no microphone thing. If people were really capable of deciding for themselves

as the marketplace idea is really a thing, why am I not making $70 grand a year to talk to a microphone? Yeah. Right? I mean, And some of it, I mean, when you look at the, like the contracts that these daily wire people get, I mean, Stephen Crowder was like bitching and going crazy over what, 50 million over five years or something like that. Oh, yeah, set for life money. Yeah.

Now, now it turns out like there's, he's gay too, but like, yeah. Right. Right. But like, you know, and why will. you know, Matt Walsh, he otherwise like, right? He's a conservative Catholic dad. We have a lot in common in terms of like

our daily lives. But he knows where his bread is getting better. And so he won't tell the truth about certain things. He'll edge up to certain things. And the reason this happens and the reason the dissing the right became a thing is

once you admit and it doesn't take much. This is why Prager gate keeps so hard. Once you admit that there are like massive biological inborn differences between men and women that are not solvable, quote unquote, and

inherent. And those inherent differences lead to very different outcomes in terms of things like education, jobs, politics, you know, whatever, across the board. All fields of human endeavor, men and women are vastly different.

The second you admit that, you have no argument against race, IQ, or Jews. Wait a second. What about these people that are, you know, massively inbred, have their own religion, they're very tribal. They're all like first cousins or third cousins. You know, how can you prove Kevin McDonald wrong? If you admit that boys and girls are different,

all it takes is boys and girls are different. and someone of us, both sons and daughters, I can tell you, like, massively different, massively different, that once you admit that boys and girls are different, how do you stop people from going, well, blacks and whites and whites are different? Blacks and Asians are different. Because all the science is out there. And that's why they keep so hard of, oh, we'll talk about this, right? Dennis will say, women are men or women are vastly different.

we need to find a way to live together. Dennis will never say, you know, actually the 19th Amendment was a horrible idea, and anyone who supports it is a subversive communist and they should be, you know, like, yeah, of course they should. Like, look around. Letting women vote was a disaster. Yeah. I've been talking lately about how on Orrin McIntyre's show, Chris Rufo was like,

we need to get CRT out of schools. We need to get all this. We need to go back to, you know, to a real education in schools. And Orrin brought up, you know, well, we also have to get. of the Civil Rights Act. And Chris Rufo lost his mind. Yeah. Well, he did what you see

many Zionists doing right now. Chris Rufo pointed to a bunch of people on the left who didn't, who were against the Civil Rights Act and implied that if you were against a Civil Rights Act, you were on the left. Right. And you see Zionists doing that on Twitter all

day now is, oh, if you, if you're anti-Zionist or if you have anything bad, if you bring up the JQ, then you're a leftist. Yeah, you're a leftist. You're with the woke crowd. And then when you point out, well, who invent, where did this woke ideology come from? Well, no, it couldn't have come from, it couldn't have come from the tribe because they hate the people who are woke hate the tribe. And they get to play this fucking game. And you just wish that you, they were face to face. he can smack him in the fucking mouth. Well, yeah, and that's, well, notice that, you know, Dennis Pryker's pretty tall, actually. He's probably 6.3, 6, 4.

That's weird. Yeah, but like Ben Shapiro, right? Dude's 5'7 in lifts and maybe 125 pounds soaking wet. Of course, he's against violence as a way of deciding things. He's bad at violence, right? Like, you know, I'm not good at basketball. I wouldn't be the guy being like, you know, how we're. didn't decide everything, a basketball game.

Like, of course. Right? Like, Dr. Prepper here says, it says, yeah, anyone, you know, they do that all the time. Anyone to the right of me is actually a leftist because, and then they'll invoke horseshoe theory. Right. And it's like, oh, well, you've gotten so far right. You're on the left now.

And I'm sure you've gotten that person. How about fuck your mother? Yeah. How about that? how about you shut your mouth? How about you shut your lying mouth or people will shut it for you? How's that? You know?

And it's the unprincipled exception of people like Prager or Shapiro or any of these people. They will make you like, well, I don't know. Like, what about Satanism? Like, what about it? I don't think we should have it in public. Well, are you going to ban Judaism? Well, are you guys Satanists? Because like, I mean,

seems to me that there's a pretty good case that you and the Satanists have more in common than you and the Christians. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's it should be it should be very obvious. But the problem is is that the one thing that the regime was really good at doing was convincing people that this constitution and this this bill of rights is what, you know, is what. them is what makes them free. So anyone who comes along and defends that, they can, but here's the, and defends that, then they're on their side. The problem is, is that, you know, as Edward Bernay has talked about, you can take the First Amendment. And the First Amendment is the greatest propaganda tool ever known to mankind. Because not only does it give you freedom of

speech, it also gives freedom of the press, and the press can do whatever they want. The press can just become the greatest social engineers in the world, and they have all this freedom. And if you talk about, well, maybe we need to get rid of freedom of the press. Oh, you're against the cons. You know, maybe we need to get these people in, we need to check these people. Oh, you're just like Stalin who would, you know, would persecute anyone who any. You know what Stalin did?

He won and then he died in his bed. Just like Franco. Just like Franco did. Right. And, you know, freedom of the press. Like, okay, freedom of press to do what? Again, like liberty to do what? Every war in the 20th century.

Actually, past that. The Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq one. Every single one of them, if you look into them, there's a pretty good case to be made that every single one of them had some sort of false flag attached to it. Like the Spanish Empire was on his last legs, Spain was broke from a completely turbulent 19th century that it had seen what,

like three revolutions in Spain and the 19th century after. You had three carless revolutions within 20 years. Right. So they were going to go pick on the United States of America, a country 20 times its size, with money, and, like, who'd just finished conquering the frontier. They were going to blow up a battleship. Right. Sure. Right.

And then what did her say? You know, you give me the, you know, show me the, like, I'll give you the war if you show me the right story or whatever. And of course, the Lusitania, right? The Germans are like, don't sail on this ship. it's got a bunch of guns on it. Then, you know, the press goes, look at what they did do with our poor passengers. We need to go kill a bunch of Germans and 170,000 Americans go die in this useless war in Europe that shot the civilization in the head.

Never mind, you know, like World War II, right? All the stuff you've done with Thomas about that. Like, you know, literally, literally like an audio book worth of just, you know, a dozen hours or two dozen hours of Thomas going, breaking through all the different BS that's behind that. You know, the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I forget what the thing in Korea was. But, like, just look at what's happened. And again, if Dennis Prager or Mark Levine or any of each other people were,

I mean, Wicker v. Philburn is ridiculous. Like, oh, you can't grow wheat to, you know, like, yeah. Congratulations, Mark Lavin. I agree with you. Wicked v. Filberin is ridiculous. Now go after Shelley v. Kramer and Brown v. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Yeah. Right?

Because Wicker v. Filberin is ridiculous. but in terms of like what makes my daily life more difficult Brown v. Board hands down hands down Brown v. Board is the worst you know like or Charlie v. Cranber or whatever right so oh well that's that's a leftist racist

racist institute you know like like Earl Warren made like all these other decisions were really bad but this one or two times Earl Warren made good decisions so we should totally be conservative behind that and you know, Aaron McIntyre, who's great credit is going against this stuff.

But, you know, Chris Caldwell is completely right. You know, the shadow constitution of the Civil Rights Act is what has these people in their sights and they believe it. And that's where we need to say, no, actually. The Civil Rights Act is nonsense. Because it doesn't put any bound.

It puts all these constraints on the white Christian majority, on the decent people, and it has no bounds on the other side. There's no like, well, you know, if you're a, like, fentanyl abusing felon, porn actor who's passing off fake 20s, maybe you just get what you deserve. Maybe that's unfortunate. We'll send a card to your family, but, like, that happens when you do.

those things. Like, bad things happen to you when you do that and you die of drug overdoses. And it's unfortunate for you, but the world's a better place without you in it. But, I mean, it was just some guy who decided that he was going to do drugs. It was him alone. You know, it didn't harm anyone else. It had no repercussions on anything that's happened since then at all. It was just some guy who decided he was going to.

and take fentanyl. And then the press, you know, like, I'm sure you've seen the compilations, right? You know, like all the press talking, these are the exact same lines at 37 different local news stations, right? Like, so all of them said the exact same thing. But that wouldn't have happened if there was no government, don't you understand? The only reason that happened is because we have a government.

We just got to end the state, bro. I mean, like, I'm sorry, but those people are so childish and so ridiculous at this point. time. I can just like, oh, so, so you want government by Larry Fink? Like, the state's the only thing we have to be between us and Larry Fink. And from what I understand, that's what Javier Malay is doing in, um, doing in, in Argentina is he's privatizing everything and basically selling it to his friends. And guess who his friends are? Go ahead. Stop noticing, boy. Right. But, you know, Argentina used to be a first world country. Argentina used to be wealthy.

Yeah. 100 years ago, 100 years ago, Argentina was the second wealthiest country on the continent. Oh, third. Absolutely. Absolutely. In 1920, Argentina was doing great.

It was 60 to 80% German country at that point and just, I mean, doing wealth was just going to be a European country in South America. What happened? Yeah, it was basically Italian and German.

Yeah, and I forget exactly. It's been a number of years since I looked it up, but like there's that southern cone of Chile was like 70% Basque or something. Argentina was mostly Italian. Southern Brazil was German. Uruguay was still basically a functioning country, which is very small, but there was those four, you know, four functioning South American countries,

and they'd managed to mostly stay out of the First World War, and they were more prosperous than any country in the Americas, except for Canada and the United States, I think. And then what's not Cuba was up there, too, but Cuba was basically Castilian, right? Up until the revolution, Cuba was effectively, you know, it was much like Chile.

It was much like Chile was, yeah, and pretty much still is, yeah. Right. And so if Dennis Pricker knows these things, and I'm not saying Dennis Prater needs to, you know, do what I've done and scream, you know, naughty words all over the internet. But like, if he was genuinely interested in conserving a society, he'd conserve the raw material of that society. He would do things like tell women, like, you know,

actually the best thing you can do is, is get married and have kids. Like this whole like, oh, well, you can have a career and, like, no, you can't. No, you can't. Like, you can't raise small children and have a career. Sorry. Could you ever dealt with small children? You can't do it.

Like, being a mom is a full-time job until your kids are, you know, kindergarten aged, at least. You know, if you want to go back to work after all your kids are in school, you know, maybe. But, like, this whole idea of, of just, you know, Ben Shapiro knows everything I know about. Who breaks the law and who doesn't? Why doesn't Ben Spirer just say, yeah, actually?

It's because they're high time preference and inability to see future consequences and low IQ and inability to compete in the marketplace because they're too dumb to actually hold down a job. And, you know, whatever that makes them this way and no decent people should have to live around them because they're, you know, violent and they're violent and dumb. Yeah.

Right. You know, there was a kid who just got shot in the head in Oklahoma while he was out looking at Christmas lights with his mom. And I don't know if he's passed away at or not last I saw. He was in critical condition. And it was the usual suspects, right? You know, a 30-year-old guy had been convicted of multiple crimes and shot this poor kid in the head. And of course, he was like, why are we even pretending that there needs to be much of a trial other than like, oh, this guy did it.

Yeah. Like it, you know, why can't we like, oh, well, you don't normally do. Like, you get a week reprieve because it's Christmas time. But come next Saturday at noon in the town square, right, people who shoot kids in the head, we do one thing to them in this county. You know? Yeah. They go dancing on air. And that's it.

There's nothing to discuss. Why are we even talking about this? Right? How many billions of dollars would be spending in America's prisons on people that should have just been flogged or home? Right. Bob Tona,

Bob Tona sent a $25 super chat and said, I think the closer we get to boomers dying off, the less influence these conservatives will have as the myths of the civil rights movement and the hallibunga are taken to the grave. Anyway, Mary. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. Yeah, and we're already seeing it. You couldn't see that, like, 20% of Zoomers or something like that support Israel and like 85 to 90% of boomers support them. So he says Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thank you, Bob. Tunes just came in and said, long-term ancestral timeline, bug in or bug out. If you're going to bug out, where? man there's a lot there could do a whole four hour stream just on that yeah um goodness um I'm a big believer in mountains are good for white people um

so anywhere from northern Alabama to Maine along the Appalachian chain there um would be decent um anywhere in the Rockies.

Problem is those places are relatively poor. So if you can find yourself a laptop job, you know, by all means do it. You know, go someplace that's relatively white, relatively rural. You can get a little bit of land, grow some potatoes. Get to know your neighbors. Yep. Stay out of the big cities.

Stay out of the big cities. They are not going to function. Now, we're going to, they're going to have, just for reasons of geography and transportation, those places are going to be taken back at some point. But right now they're not, they're not viable. They're just not viable. It's not possible to live in Chicago for a decent person. Well, I think we're going to end it right there.

I want to thank everybody for showing up to this and everyone who's super chatted. That's frigging awesome. I really appreciate it. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. Yeah, love all of you. I try to put something out next week, maybe on the 30th on Saturday instead of Sunday. Because I know on Sunday people are going to be getting ready for,

their new year's celebration and don't feel like that's just cheesy to do get together with people you love and spend time with them take whatever chances you can to do that and um you know family's important people who share values with you um just as much so so yeah um you got a if i can i well first of all merry christmas and thank you so much for having me pete it's always a pleasure and i'm kind of astonish that you put up with me um your friendship your friendship means a great deal. Merry Christmas. But I would, if I could just part with one thing, I've kind of rambled today, and I'm guilty of that. But I would say this to people.

Your sources of information are vitally important. How many people did Pete save? How many people did other people on our side of the fence save from not taking the Vax and not getting heart attacks or cancer or strokes or what have you because they were able to tell people the truth. And as the information environment decrees further and you've got people who genuinely, you know, like on national television will be like, we was the charrokee and we will, you know, like,

they're not going to stop this. They're not going to, they're not going to be able to stop this. And those gatekeepers that people talk about as the boomers die off, they're going to start to fall apart. so good solid reliable sources of information who are honest with you and admit when they were wrong as Pete has done are going to be more and more valuable as time goes on and so support the people that support you

whatever that may be if you got three favorite YouTube shows if you love Aaron McIntyre and Pete and academic agent like kick everybody a few bucks because as time goes on, stuff like this, it's fun now. It could be really, really important in a year or two. So that's all I would say is the difference between me

and like a friend of mine who just stayed with Norman conservative media is, you know, I clicked on the wrong link one day and found like V-DARE or something. 20-odd years ago. And now Pete and I are talking. And you could be that V-Dare link for somebody. So, you know, support the people that support you. And it'll make a big difference. You never know.

I mean, I've yapped on the internet for a long time and over many hours. And I've heard my talking points in the mouths of like mainstream people. And it's been very, very strange to hear that. It's always weird to, it's always weird when you, when you find out that, there might be some people out there who are actually, on TV. And it's like, wait a minute. Is that, did they hear that on my show?

Yeah. Yeah, that is weird. And, and, you know, that's, that's all I gotta say is, is just support the good source of information, support people that support you. And, you know, thank you all very much for your kind of listening. And Merry Christmas. And, you know, thank you so much, Pete, for having me.

Thank you. Merry Christmas. And Merry Christmas, everyone. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekanino show and D.E. is ready to go. So, um, good, good. So Pete, I don't know if you saw, but we have now like redacted messages from, uh, I believe Francis Collins and other people basically admitting that like those of us were like, hey, this is a bio weapon. You guys are doing something weird. This was a lab. You're lying. This is proof now like completely vindicated. And now these people want to be like, well, it was a pandemic and we didn't know what we were doing,

please don't throw us in jail. No, I mean, that was to be expected, right? I mean, here's what we knew. We knew back then that one day this would come out. Maybe it would be 70 years, you know, on, they'd release it, maybe it'd be a couple years. Well, we also knew that no one was going to do anything because our people aren't in charge.

And, you know, they just get to walk. They get to say, we screwed up. And we were doing the best we can and, you know, don't, you know, but there's nothing you can do about it, basically. Yeah, right. Well, exactly. And that's the thing that I bring that up because in into Oklahoma, which is a small town outside of Oklahoma City, there was a guy who'd been to Charlottesville who had been elected to the city council. And he just got recalled after a massive effort by the left, hit piece by, um, NBC news and a whole bunch of other stuff.

The only place he got any, like, sympathetic coverage was like VDair, which that's a whole other thing that makes me super, super mad. But, right, this whole notion, you know, before we're recording, I was telling you that how your emphasis on elite there is basically the only thing keeping me from, like, crippling depression right now because, right, they're just in power. And so they get to do what they want. And this whole notion of like the democratic will of the people and knowledge of like no, no, no, no, the vast majority of people. And this is where something where the left is actually correct, right? The left, you know, the average leftist treats politics like their religion. They take it seriously. They will tell other people what to do.

And conservatives want to sit here and be like, well, I shouldn't tell other people what? No, no, no, no. Most people are slaves. They do not want to be free. Being free is work. I mean, think about all the reading you've done just on this show that if you hadn't done that reading, you wouldn't understand the world at all. I was thinking about it as it was preparing for the show today. Like, if I was to give someone like a six pack of like books that you had to read to understand just how the world works basically, right?

I was thinking about it. And it's all books that you've talked about. I was thinking, Uncle Ted, Neema's book. the bell curve race warren high school race war in high school might be one on the list um but like

that's thousands of pages of dense political reading that most people don't want to do um john calhoun disquisition on government like like conservatives are delusional and um it is precisely because they're so delusional

that we're censored because the second that they, because you and I, you both used to be conservative as and libertarians, the second you, like, actually tell them the truth, they go, oh, yeah, I guess it is that way. And then the next day,

they, you know, they, they listen to you, they accept it, and then you see them the next day, and they've completely forgotten about what you were talking about. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, they, they really get, off on being the victim. They get off on being the loser. And then they try to like take this moral stand by doing it. It's like, well, you know, you can't, you can't, I just want to be left alone. Don't you just want to be left alone? Well, actually, no. Actually, no, they don't want to just be left alone. And they don't want, well, they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave you alone.

You want to be left alone and you want to leave other people alone, but they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave other people alone, okay? Their entire existence is dependent on, like this is Calhoun, right? Like in any society, there's going to be the people that pay taxes and the people that receive taxes. And if they're the people that receive taxes, whether that's government workers or central bankers or underclass people or the teachers union or whatever, They're the people that are getting taxed, getting the tax money. No public employee ever pays taxes. Yeah. They're just taking money from the, when they pay taxes,

it's taken money from your wallet in your left hand pocket and putting in your right hand pocket. That's all. Yeah. So this. Go ahead. So this is what. If you can't understand this, and I mean, for the folks listening, congratulations, you know, I've, I've profited immensely from Pete's work and his friendship and it's a real honor. But, you know, for those of you who are just listening, don't think that like, oh, I'm just listening.

Now, this is really, really important. The message is the reading that Pete's doing here is basically a graduate course in how to unscrew up your mind. from the regime indoctrination for conservatives. And it might be the most important project in our entire sphere right now by doing things like reading Calhoun and Camp the Saints and all of this other stuff that Pete's talking about. Every single one of the series with Thomas, I've said this privately to Pete, but I'll say it publicly,

is like a college class. It's like a graduate, you know, upper level graduate college class of series of lectures with Thomas going over how World War I was nonsense or World War II. And you have to understand how all this stuff is nonsense before you can even begin to fight back. Because the second, right, what did they say about Mr. Blevins? And this NBC hit piece. The only people who would give Mr. Blevins a fair hearing is VDair. And VDare is like going away at the end of the month, tragically.

the second, like, oh, if this guy who's from Oklahoma and believes in the people of Oklahoma and the state of Oklahoma, if we let him have his thing, that's basically Hitler. That was the, that was the hit piece on NBC, you know, NBC News, right? So it's the regime, the Nuremberg regime justifying itself in this insane way that you have to believe nonsense. otherwise Moustache Man Well, here's what I will say And this is what people Have asked

Oh, you know, Thomas, Why do you have Thomas on all the time? What? The Nulte episodes. So we have two Ernst Nulte episodes released. And we recorded the third one last night And it's available to

So subscribers right now. It'll be, it'll be published by the time this comes out. People really need to listen to those episodes because what Nolte is describing is he's describing a people who existed and still exist. But specifically when he's talking about the 1920s and 1930s, he's talking about a people who their ideology was spreading all over the world. it had taken over Russia

it had taken over Spain and it was an ideology of not only killing the physical body but killing who you are and the soul it killed the human soul I mean everything about it they

they if you want to know a good picture of what they were and then you know the communists be like no that was the anarchist no same thing Same thing. Sorry. Look at the disinterring of the nuns in Spain. Look at them executing 6,000 priests, nuns, and seminarians in a six-month span. Twice the amount of people who were killed in the Inquisition over the span of 300 years. In the span of six months, they killed 6,000 priests, nuns, and seminarians burned down 8,000 churches. They tried to kill Spain. They tried to destroy Spain.

They did more damage to Spain than 700 years of Moorish occupation. Yeah. I mean, at least the Moors allowed them to still be Catholics. Or be Spanish, right? Yeah. So, I mean, people forget about this, but the Bavarian Socialist Republic was a thing in 1919. The German Navy almost completely over, you know, communist stuff. They weren't just, you know, I've been introduced to lots of thinkers thanks to Thomas

and I pride myself, you know, think of myself as reasonably well-unformed and well-read and compared to your average normally, I suppose I am, but I'm always learning stuff, always learning stuff when you guys talk. And, you know, I have this, you know, oh, we're going to read, pick up this book. And my thank you to Thomas stack of books is probably as tall as I am, you know. But it's because these people, you know, And what did they do to China? They destroyed China.

A 5,000-year-old civilization that was dependent on the family and this and right order, the Confucian idea of right order within the family and within the society of these are the duties parents have the children. These are the duties siblings have to each other. These are the duties you have to aunts and uncles or cousins. Well, in the one child, one child policy, China, there are no answers. uncles. There are no cousins. There is no, you know, traditional Chinese society. It's been destroyed by the communists. Russia, the reason they hate Vladimir Putin so much is that Vladimir Putin, for all of his faults or whatever, is turning Russia around and Russia is

recognizableably Russian again or at least you know trying and the idea that we can like compromise or come to some sort of modus Vivendi with people who think that it's normal to like burn churches and like rape nuns

I mean I feel dirty even using the phrase you know rape nuns it's viscerally it gives me the creepy crawlies man I hate it. It's so gross. It's so evil. It's so disgusting.

And the Republican Party and the establishment will compromise with the communists over the nationalists because they have a like a please eat me last type attitude. And they'll always lose. They will always lose. And that's why the elite theory of stuff is so important. Because all we need is like five guys who are in power in some fashion. Doesn't need to be Elon Musk.

Doesn't need to be Eric Prince. It can just be, you know, like Greg Abbott realizing that like, because he was, you know, a big, big ag guy in Texas for years, he didn't do anything about it. But he finally realized, oh, wait a minute, like Texas will be uninhabitable in 20 years. if I don't do something right now. Well, yeah, congratulations. Good job, buddy. Peter Brimel has been screaming about this for 25 years.

Good job. But, you know, I'm sure Greg Abbott would rather be, you know, the governor of Texas as an independent Texas, you know, the president of Texas than, like, the de facto sovereign of like three blocks around Austin because the rest of Texas has fallen to anarcho tyranny. Those are his choices. So.

And people are screaming for a, for someone to change all this. And they're like, and you mentioned somebody like a Greg Abbott who, I think you're just using him as an example. But you, you mention anyone. And it's going to be somebody who's already in the system. It's always, it's going to be a known entity. Caesar was a known entity. Binochet was a known entity.

Franco was a known entity. If you're going to scream because, oh, that's an insult. insider. It's always an insider. Napoleon was an insight. Like, these were all, like, you think that these guys were just generals and then like, like, like, they were like, hey, man, I'm really good at this military stuff. You should make me a general and let me take over your society. That never happened. Right. Like, these guys had been through the whole system. They'd been through, you know, in Cesar's case, he's been through the cursus honor room and done really well, you know, Napoleon.

was part of the revolution, but he was the best military commander, so that's how the cookie crumbles, you know? People don't want to accept the fact that these people are serious, and they're serious about destroying who you are. I mean, that's what this whole trans thing is. The trans thing is just a picture into what they want. They want to be able to say,

X is actually Y, 2 and 2 does not equal 4, and we're going to create this issue. We're going to create this problem. We're going to politicize it. We're going to make it so that if you don't bow down to it, you know, you're a bad person. You're a fascist. And they're basic, what they're doing is they're create, it's a picture of creating a Soviet man or a Soviet woman or a Soviet woman that is a man who thinks it's a woman.

whatever you want to call it. They're creating. It's not even like they want to destroy who you are. They want to destroy all human beings everywhere. Right. They're explicit goal. They're very, very clear about this.

They want everyone to be 10% Asian, 5% West African, 13% South American Indio, 5% Sami. a black blunder, a little bit of Russian, maybe some French. You know, they don't want there to be any culture in the world. They'll talk about, you know, oh, respect for indigenous, you know, whatever.

Like they're doing it in Australia right now, right? That the voice vote didn't pass. Voice to Parliament didn't pass thanks in large part to efforts of men like Blair Cottrell and Joel Davis and Thomas Sewell, nationalists to save their nation. but the big cities are doing it anyway. Well, okay. If the aboriginals are so important, then why won't you let the aboriginals just live like aboriginals?

Why do you have to, like, give them housing? Why do you have to, you know, you're destroying the aboriginal way of life, not that I think much of Australian Aborigines, but like if they're just so special and wonderful and they need to have a voice and everything and they need to be in charge of the government and they need to be this and they need to be that,

then like let them run around in the bush and eat cancaroos. Why even bother sending them to school? Like if being an aborigine is so great, right? If all non-white cultures are inherently superior and inherently better, like go let them be that. Why? Why like, oh no, you can't have television. You can't have computers. No internet for you.

You're aborigine and your culture is too important to be polluted by the internet and television and cars and whatever. else. No, they want to destroy everything. They're just using all these other things as a weapon of convenience to destroy all human societies. Thomas talked about in the unreleased episode, the one that will be out on Monday, the Potetsi prison experiments in Romania. And basically what these... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you, I have the book. the anti-humans, I have a samist dot copy because it's impossible to find. And if you understand what they were trying to do in Romania, they were trying to re-engineer humanity.

And they were trying to turn humanity into, it's very, you can turn somebody into a slave. I mean, you can, you can force someone to work your fields. You can't make them, you can't take them back to zero. And the whole goal was to take them back to zero to destroy and strip everything from them, everything from their minds,

to make them feel like the only thing that they could possibly do was embrace the state, embrace this, I don't even want to call it an ideology. Oh, it's pure Satanism. Yeah. That's all it is. It's pure evil.

And as interesting as the Nolte episodes have been, one of the things, and this is why we're so censored and so everything, been better than us, men braver than us, men smarter than us, all across the world. In France, in Spain, in Italy, in Germany, in, you know, in England, you know, fought this. They saw the stakes in Belgium, you know. read what Leon DeGrelle had to say about like um I put it up on my telegram but I was I was rereading um burning souls over Easter and and listening to your track and it made me cry man like there's a man who understood what the stakes were and he loved God and he loved life and he loved creation so much that he was willing to go like fight and die in this horrible hellscape of the eastern front for it and um

he was an exemplar of that reaction to just how evil communism was or is rather but all over the world there are people who saw it and fought against it and basically you know we're censored

because we're anti-communists because the Nuremberg regime exists to like disempower people who notice just how awful communism is that's the point Well, it's also to just take away everything that we have. And it has. It's taken, there are very few people that you can point to who are operating in societies that have been,

I don't even know if you can call them societies anymore, that have been taken over by this where people have a sense of, of their history. When it comes to being, you know, ontological ideas and philosophical ideas as such, the first thing

that people should go to is where they came from and who they came from. And that's been all but stripped in most places. and it's something that most people don't even give a second thought to. You know, we're, we live in this gigantic strip mall, and it's how you operate within the

strip mall culture is how you're judged. It's not judged by who you came from, where you came from. That's why I'm so glad to be surrounded by so many people who, you know, in my personal life now, whose families have been living in the same place and operating the same business and doing the same things for over 200 years. Because they know who they are, and they would never leave. There's no thought of them going somewhere else. And they're rightfully suspicious of outsiders. And that's just not allowed anymore. That's racism. That's fascism. That's, that's, that's backwards. These are just backwards people.

Yeah, well, the correct response to that is yes and. Yeah. I mean, if being someone who's forward thinking is being the kind of person that the people I grew up around in New York City who are completely deracinated from anything and, I mean, they're living in a city. How do you build a legacy in a city? How do you build a legacy in an apartment? where you're renting it's yeah it's tough

and I'm you know I could go on about at that length but the the important thing that people need to understand if you're listening to this right the regime hates you and I can't remember

if it was Matt from Kimberra who was Matt Erickson you know like you don't live in a society anymore you don't live in a culture anymore You don't live in a culture anymore. Was it Matt from two, or

Matt from Kingfield. Okay, Matt from Kingfield. You don't live in a society anymore. So you don't, you know, if you're one of those people, right, who all of your ancestors were gray, and you live in rural northeast Mississippi. And your family has lived in that same area for three, 300 years or 175 years, right?

The system's trying to destroy you. You don't live in a society anymore. That's bad. It's awful. There's all kinds of negative consequences to that. But conversely, you don't owe it. You don't owe the regime anything. You don't owe it the time of day.

and so instead of being worried about what the regime thinks or what the national news thinks or whatever, you just go on and being that person from rural Mississippi whose ancestors all wore gray and you keep your Confederate dollars because they're going to be worth something again someday if enough people believe it's so, right? And it might just be in your little corner of Northeast Mississippi where confederate dollars are once again legal tender but they might you know but the dollar is not going to be checking you know like so stop caring what the regime thinks live in it do you remember the late larry auster repeat does that name ring a bell not off the top of my head no

larry died about 10 years ago um he was a jewish convert catholicism christianity and then Catholicism on his deathbed wrote a blog called View from the Right and was pretty influential on me I found it via John Derbyshire and National Review of all places actually back in the early 2000s when National Review was still worth something

but after Obama was elected a second time he made a great point and I've tried to live by this and failed sometimes but it's worth saying that I no longer consider the regime legitimate. I'll pay the taxes and obey the law just because I don't want to avoid jail. But this is no longer a government

that I can respect, that I care about, whose good opinion matters to me, whose officers I will, you know, defer to in any meaningful way. Like, no, none of these people deserve any respect. None of these people deserve. until Greg Abbott does something to actually help Texans, he should be relentlessly mocked.

He should like fear going outside because stand up for Texas, you bleep-de-bleep bleep, you know, he should be more afraid of being turfed out and made fun of by the average Texan than whatever the regime thinks because the regime is, it doesn't matter. It doesn't, it doesn't,

well, not to say it doesn't matter in this instance of like I can't three in jail, but like in terms of legitimacy, they're not, they're not legitimate. They're not a government that anyone should respect. Yeah, they create the situations. They go out of their way to create the situations that would have you have to become reliance upon them, which is why people who aren't reliance upon them are demonized.

They seek to, you know, a farmer who can grow his own food, they seek to come up with every possible regulation to make their life miserable. If they own their own land, they continue to tax them. If they dare to sell raw milk, they will show up with a SWAT team. I've, I'm not exaggerating. seen video footage of SWAT teams.

Yeah, Farmageddon is a, it's, I think it was made by lefties, but that doesn't matter. It's still one of those documentaries that you want to see because you, you'll see exactly what, what they'll do to people who can provide for their, can provide for themselves, can survive on their own and not have to rely upon the government. That's why they love cities so much. They love cities so much because they get people to move there. impossible eventually somebody's going to get on uh you're either going to have a bunch of rich people who move there that they can they become tax cattle or you have a bunch of poor people who move there

who become tax feeders it's perfect it's the perfect kind of synchronicity for them and but weirdly the rich people who will live in cities will continue to vote for these people and the poor people who live in cities will continue to vote for these people but as soon as you get outside of those cities and you're like, oh, I can actually provide for myself. Huh. Well, like, those are, yeah, those are the people that they need to destroy. Yeah. Well, or just like the whole like the Constitution.

Look at what, uh, Michaela Scott or McKenzie Scott or whatever, Jeff Bezos' ex-wife. Look at the damage she's done with her billions and tell me bills of attained her or, a bad thing. Like, no, we're just taking that, like, you're, you can live in Malibu and have your private jet, but this whole like $100 million to things that destroy the country. No, we're just taking your money. Right. Like, yeah, they don't, people don't get, people will defend that because capital, because quote unquote capitalism. And it's, it's amazing how the same people who will tell you, well, that isn't real capitalism. You know, that's cronyism. As soon as you start attacking cronyism. They start saying, why are you attacking capitalism?

Um, will be because the same thing, dumbass. Yeah, because like I said, um, like I said last time. Um, like I said last time, right, nobody, um, got rich without government intervention. Jeff Bezos depended on the post office to, to be rich. If the post office didn't, didn't carry his stuff for cheap or free, um,

you know, he, he would, he would, he would have been able to, you know, so he's socialist roads. And,

you know, Walmart, right, they use socialist, socialist roads and, and, uh, EBT for their employees to cover their,

like, there's nobody who, in the system. And it's impossible otherwise. to give you just a quick example. Do you know where to C-130 is, Pete? Yep. Okay.

I think it's a really cool airplane. Not a jet. You know, 4-engine turbo prop can land on rough fields. Really great, you know, kind of rough field, short-field aircraft. One of those, a new one, is $100 million. Near enough, like 80 or 90, depending on. on, you know, like whatever, you know, like a fortune that would last like multiple lifetimes. Yeah.

And who gets that money? I mean, and does it really cost $100 million or is 75 of that being diverted somewhere else? And is, and 100% though, the money that that money is, which is technically tax money is just created out a thin. air, it's inflation at this point. It's going to be turned around and used against you. It's going to be used against you in some way. The people getting rich from this, they don't hate the government. So, I think there are people who get rich from the government who don't like the government at all. They're just taking it as an opportunity and maybe they're biding their time. There's just probably a couple out there. But for the most part, Daniel McAdams was telling me about a, that when he used

live in D.C. There was this community that didn't exist. And then he went there in the last couple of years, and this community just popped up. It's a community from Boeing. It's all people who lobby and work for Boeing. And it's the whole community. Well, why would they have their own community there?

Well, they used to have their own senator. I mean, you're old enough to remember Henry Jackson. It's one of the last good, you know, like he was no joke. the senator from Boeing. And that would actually be a little bit more honest, right? Like, if, if,

if, if, if, if, if, if, a NASCAR style suit with, like,

Rithion and, and, Donald Douglas and, you know, whatever, whoever else is, you know, behind him on his,

uh, as opposed to a three-piece suit, right? But, like, of course, there's an entire community full of people from Boeing. if you could live around a bunch of people that you, like, worked with and liked and, and, you know, again, there's no such thing as a private billion dollar corporation. There's just, I mean, go back and re-listen to the John C. Calhoun episodes.

Again, reread them. read it yourself, listen to them two or three times. There is no such thing as purely private economy. There's people in power and there's people out of power and there's people who are dependent on the state. If you have power and money that's somehow tied to the state apparatus, it can't not be. I mean, that's just how it works. the state apparatus is how we you know generate and allocate money and power

that's the point of the apparatus is to like hand out money and power to people yeah i mean i was telling you privately but like i can't believe i ever took thomas jefferson seriously after rereading calhoun yeah i mean thomas jefferson is it's it's platitudes it's wishes it's um it's fantasy. It's just, it's just flights of fancy. And, you know, it's one of those ways,

it's one of the reasons why once you really start studying and understanding power, you're like, all right, I don't hate Alexander Hamilton as much as I used to. Because he was one of the only ones who was realistic about the whole thing. He's like, this is going to turn, this is going to be a bank, this is going to be a bank attached to a state. Okay, that's what, that's what country has become. Let's just get it out of the way right from the start. Well, or just admitting that power was real. I mean, something as simple as, as power is real.

You're going to have to deal with it. And you're, right, you know, for up until, I would say, World War I probably, we were just a, you know, I mean, listen to Tom Luongo. Tom's, Tom's been banging on about this for, like, a couple years, right? The city of London ran America for 150 years. Yeah. I mean, you can make a pretty good case that, I mean, I don't know how tinfoil you want to get, but like the Federal Reserve, Ross trial, bank connection, J.B. Morgan, like, I mean,

you can make a pretty solid argument that they still do. And, you know, Jerome Powell, the Fed chair. right that we're all supposed to hate because end the Fed it's the most terrible you know we're about I remember hating the Fed chairman for years but Jerome Powell is like the one maybe we have a handful of people in Washington who's actually trying to preserve American sovereignty that might be completely out of his own self-interest of like there's no point of being you know king of the dung heap if the dollar goes to zero but um you know, what's the point of being Fed Chairman then?

But Jerome Powell is actually trying to divorce our system from the city of London. So, you know, Alexander Hamilton might have been a bad guy, you know, ran around on his wife, you know, dueled, drank excessively, whatever. but he was at least acknowledging that, like, you have to have your own bank to be sovereign. I don't like it, but it's true. Yeah, it's very easy to look at the Fed because, you know, money printing abilities, what they can do with interest rates, basically.

And, yeah, and you'll even get people who are, you know, big fans of the founders, he'll be like, well, Congress should be running that. That's what, that's what Congress is for. Sure, I agree. Should, should, would, could. Outs. It ought to be like this.

I mean, you just act like libertarians all day. But, you know, what is he doing now? What is, you know, as Luongo, yeah, I had somebody come into the, into the live chat on a live stream and, you know, just start arguing about, about, um, Powell, saying, Powell's not our friend and everything. I'm like, well, go listen to Luongo. I listen to Luongo. I just disagree with him.

And I'm like, that's great. That's, okay. At least that's honest. At least you went and listened to them. You can't get people with platforms that could actually get a message out there, you know, that possibly could, you know, I'm not a populist. I'm not, I don't want. you know, like, I think it would be really scary if 200 million people all of a sudden

decided that the Fed was, the Fed needed to be ended. Because when you have that, if you have that many people, you're leaning a little more towards what France was in the 1790s than what the United States was, what the revolution, the differences between the revolutions. And really, we don't want, we don't want the French one here. Maybe we're, maybe, we're, maybe, we're, Definitely don't want the Franklin one. We can maybe argue about the American one, but definitely don't want the French. Right. But just trying to get through people's goals that, okay, let's look at the, look at what the evidence is. Look at what he's talking about. You know, you shared this fortune article with me where he's talking about commercial real estate, something I was talking about in March of 2020 because I said, oh, all these people working from home, all these companies are going to figure, well, we don't need to pay for brick and mortar. I'm like, we're going to have a career. commercial real estate crisis at some point.

And, you know, it seems like he's locked into the fact that, yeah, there's some real bad commercial, there's some commercial real estate problems happening now. And, you know, what happens if we have a commercial real estate crisis? Oh, it's already there.

Yeah. It's impossible to avoid. There's articles in Forbes and Fortune, so this is not like, you know, team foil hat conspiracy dot uh you know dot biz um basically right and Donald Trump actually probably would would be one of the best people to be in office to understand this because he's built a you know billion dollar fortune off of commercial real estate but um you know two generations of three generations of his family involved in commercial real estate but

for ease of math, right? A big building in a core downtown of any big city in America, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, New York, Los Angeles, whatever, is going to be like $100 million. Right? And even really, really rich people don't like just spending $100 million straight up without any kind of return. So what they'll do is they'll spend $15 million in finance and rest, right?

Because the architects are going to cost, you know, a couple million bucks all by itself. The structural engineers are going to cost millions of dollars. The construction is going to cost millions of dollars. You know, the concrete guys alone are going to cost millions of dollars. So no one wants to just lay out this huge sum of money for no return. Or no return over time. So they talk to bank. banks, just like this is what that, uh,

Donald Trump had to go to, uh, you know, the half billion dollar fine or whatever that ended up getting, getting reduced. Um, that was over this sort of deal. Well, you know, they, they have a, like, this thing needs to be, you know, X percent occupied for this thing to pay off. And it's usually like 80% plus somewhere between 80 and 90.

They don't want it like 100% occupied because that leaves them with no flexibility all the time, but like, you know, mostly occupied. Well, all of these and a lot of local governments, right, they're dependent on the property tax revenue brought by these commercial buildings. Your businesses pay property taxes. If you own the building, you pay property taxes, right? So whoever owns that building that your office is in, you know, pays property taxes. And that goes to schools and roads and.

etc, et cetera, et cetera. Well, if none of these buildings are actually worth any money, you know, to use a $100 million building example, right, you've got $85 million financed. In order to pay off that $85 million financed, you have to have 80% occupancy of the building. Otherwise, you can't pay the bank back or the building is worth less money. And so the bank will say we have this building worth $100 million. We have 85% of it as part of our portfolio. It's an asset.

We can get loans. What if that building is only worth $70 million? Because it's not instead of being 85% occupied, it's 65% occupied. All of a sudden, the bank has a huge problem because they're not getting, you know, the landlord is not getting paid. So he's going to have a hard time making the note. And whatever the bank is done on the back end of like, we have this gigantic asset. And if they have to mark that down, huge numbers of banks in this country will just go belly up that fast, like instantly. Because they'll have taken a 5, 10, 15% cut in what their evaluation is.

And then the margins are too small for them to, you know, just weather that without having a major problem. And then what is the city going to do? You know, they're dependent on this tax revenue of XYZ tower. That's worth $100 million. They pay $250,000 a year in property taxes. What if they're only paying $175,000 in property taxes next year? what are you going to do then? Where are you thinking about the extra, you know,

75,000 bucks? You know, it's a gigantic mess. And this is, this is what libertarians ought to be doing. It's like spiking the ball in the end zone on this sort of stuff, as opposed to being like, as there is pronouns are this and like illegal Mexicans

should be allowed to have guns because everyone deserves to have guns, even though like crazy people who are like, all the time. Well, priorities, right? I mean, really, how many of them own commercial real estate? Of the libertarians, I used to know, none. No, I have not owned commercial real estate. No, I have an uncle who made a lot of money in commercial real estate for a lot of years, especially in the 80s, but that doesn't make me an expert on it. It doesn't make me, but I can still talk about it. I can still examine it, but this just isn't on

their radar. And it really it, I mean, take it to conservatives too, is it on their radar? They're not thinking about it. They're not thinking I mean, what is it? They could be talking about this or they could be talking about Michelle Obama's penis.

What would they rather be talking about? Be Mike. Good. Well, I mean, let's be honest. Talking about Big Mike is far more entertaining. It's entertaining, it's entertaining. It's entertaining, yes, but it's, you know, still, it's like, what are you doing?

You know, why are you going after TikTok? What is it? The enemy is within the gates. The enemy is inside. And they keep one of pointing out. They keep on the point outside. You know, they don't want to talk about, you never hear them saying, you know, when we get power, some of the things these people have done are criminal.

We really should try to, you know, penalize them for it. Take them to court. Throw them in jail. Why would they want to do that? They just want to be left alone. I just want to be left alone. Hey, if you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. I used to say that.

when I was a libertarian, just leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. And you realize how it's just, it's loser mentality. Because no one's going to say that unless they're losing. But not only is no one going to say that unless they're losing, it guarantees you to lose. Because if the guy that wants to be left alone is always going to lose to the guy that's like, I want to take your lunch money, I want to kick your grandma out of her house, and I want to screw your sister.

maybe he only gets two out of three, but he took all your lunch money and kicked your grandma out of your house. Why are there more people right now talking about Carl Schmidt than there were 10, 15 years ago? Because people see that friend, enemy is, it's so clear. It's so clear. And when you point that out to them, when you point that out to the people, who are losing and just want to be left alone and just want to win if we just get Trump reelected he's going to do everything yeah this pressure release yeah this pressure

release valve you know like like you know how QAnon was it was the pressure release valve for the first term what's going to be the pressure release valve for the second term you know if he if he does get elected where it's like oh we don't have to do anything anymore somebody's coming to save us no no no Well, Trump was president for four years. He had accomplished very little. And accomplished very little. Why?

Because he wasn't in power. And he was in power, but he wasn't using power. And then when you talk about using power, well, that's immoral. Right. Okay. Well, the great has the best answer to this question. I believe he calls it forced restication. It's like, no, you're just, you can.

go live in the middle of nowhere, even somewhere nice. Like you can have your little island in the Caribbean. It's just that, you know, there's a boat once a month. There's no planes. There's no satellite communications. And you're not in power anymore. But notably, you know, who did Carl Schmidt cite all the time in from America? Was it Calhoun?

Yeah. Right. Like the one serious thinker that like people cited in your in, you know, European universities was John C. Calhoun. Like this is. So it's not like for the for the people that want to be like, that's a foreign weird ideology. It's John C. Calhoun. It's translated. It's translating John Cacalhoun into German. That's what it is. I mean, there's there's, additional insights and I don't want to take anything away from Crush Midd. He was obviously genius.

But like, there are plenty of Americans who understood the way the game is played. You just haven't heard about them. You're not allowed to talk about them. You know, all those favorites, you don't want to be a fascist, do you?

You don't want to be called a fascist, do you? Well, I mean, if you, if being called a fascist means, like, I don't think that you should be able to, like, rape don't or sexually mutilate, children or systematically disenfranchised and

destroy the economics of American families. I'm a fascist. I don't care. I mean, if you want to be strict about it and be like, do you subscribe to everything Benito Mussolini wrote in the doctrines of fascism? No, I don't. But considering fascism has lost all meaning to the point where Paul Gottfried is a fascist, then, okay, I guess me and me and Paul Gottfried, the Jew can be fascist together. They're not serious.

I mean, and that's the problem is, is when you get to this point in, like, empire, you don't have a lot of serious people. So you look on the left, okay? Who are the serious political thinkers on the left right now? Are there any? There haven't been any for decades. I mean, like Gnom Chonsky, kind of,

but he's lost his basketball for years. And he's very dishonest, always has been. All this is is a machine rolling on, and this machine was designed to serve the managerial class. And the managerial class doesn't even have to be that smart. They just have to know how to keep the machine going. Somebody has to figure out, somebody has to step in and go, well, this machine, I'm putting a wrench in the gears. This machine can't go on anymore. But if you talk about that, if you talk about, let's face it, we both know this.

This form of government, whatever it is, cannot exist. Whatever the next thing is, it can't be this. You can't, when a car breaks down, you have two choices. Okay, you know the car is broken. You're either going to fix it or you're going to replace it. There gets a point with a car where you're like, I just can't fix this anymore. just going to replace it. We passed a replacement part like 75 years ago. It needed to be replaced then. And people are so into this civic religion of, well, what else could it be? If it's not going to be this, it's going to be fascism.

Okay, if whatever you think fascism is, if it dismantles this and gives you the ability to, I don't know, have a farm, have a family, be able to, you know, like some countries are doing now, and if you have five kids, you don't have to pay taxes ever again for the rest of your life. countries that are doing that are being called fascist. Is that okay?

No, but Kelly's being called the fascist for like throwing people who have the I commit crimes tattooed on their face. Like, hey, I'm just going to believe you when you say like I've murdered people. Like when you have the I murder people tattoo on your face, then he's just like, okay, I believe you that you murdered people. And guess what we do to murder people who murder people? We throw them in jail. and all of a sudden Nagu Bikili is a fascist for like, hey, I think ordinary people shouldn't have to be

like worried about like the demon tattoo face guy showing up with their, you know, their little bodega stand and like taking all their profits for years at a time. Like, okay, if that's fascist, right? If Victor Orban

and Paul Gottfried and Peter Brimelow and Naibu Buckele and, you know, Curtis Yarvan and Vladimir Putin are all fascists. The term has lost all meaning, and it should be mocked. When you come to a point in civilization and, you know, there were groups, there were groups in Europe in the 1920s and 30s who decided that, okay, there's a threat. This threat will end our civilization. It will destroy everything that our people stood for, that our families stood for, that our country stood for, this land. It will destroy everything.

It will ravage it like locusts. There will be nothing left. We need to do something and we need to do something. And it's going to be really, really drastic. Okay? That sounds like if you, if you've diagnosed a problem that well, then, well, you're going to do something, you're going to do things that people are going to look at and go, well, maybe you shouldn't be doing that. Well, maybe they shouldn't be raping nuns. Maybe they shouldn't be burning churches down. You ever seen what happens in a controlled, hard landing on an airplane or like with the train,

that has to slam on the brakes? Yeah. Or a big truck when they have to slam on the brakes. Like, it's ugly. There's a bunch of damage that's done. It's not good. Right. People get thrown around.

Stuff can throw around. Breaks, brake. Stuff smokes. Tires get shredded. But like, if the alternative is, like, driving off the cliff, you got to slam on those brakes and maybe, you know, bounce into a few trees here and there. If the alternative is end up at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. And that's basically our choice right now.

The problem with those situations, I was in an aborted landing once that really, I mean, it was one of the most frightening things I've ever been. And we were literally like 10 feet off the ground when the landing got aborted. And at least you know that you're in danger. The problem is you know it. At that moment, you know you're in danger. People don't feel like they're in danger yet. You know, when, you know, maybe in 10 years when boomers are going to be loaded onto box cars by their trans grandkids because of something they said on Twitter like, you know, two weeks ago, two weeks previous to now, maybe then they'll get it.

But I don't, you know, I don't trust people anymore. I don't trust the public to do anything. I know people, I judge people by talking to them. The masses are, I mean, wanting, advocating for the individual liberty of masses who don't, wouldn't be willing to even step up and speak about their individual liberty. Why are you wasting your time? No, these are the people who are, these are people who are equally the enemy. Okay.

But also, they're also people waiting to be led. you know, the proverbial, you know, there's a crown laying in the gutter right now. And now we're just waiting for someone to pick it up. But it's like, oh, no, that person is going to become a king. They're going to become a dictator. It's going to become totalitarian. They're saying the same thing. They're saying the same thing about Buckelly.

They're saying, I mean, guy, what, 87% of the vote? Yeah. So. Or Vladimir Putin. They've said to say they're not him for 20 years. Yeah. Like, look at that. Maybe 80% of the pop.

relation wants to live in a society that functions. And they don't care how it gets there. You know, I don't care. I would like to be able to go, you know, visit Big City, X, Y, Z, and go to a symphony. I'd like to be able to go to the opera. I'd like to be able to go to a concert and not encounter people who are on drugs and who might attack me. I would like. Same here, man.

I would like to be able to go, you know, buy raw milk from a guy that I know and not have him be attacked. I would like my society to not be invaded by tens of millions of invaders from all across the planet. But we're not in power right now. And the people that are don't care. And they don't play by rules. And they don't. I mean, you know, I mean, you and I haven't always agreed on everything, Pete. But like, between the two of us, right?

we can come to sort of modus vivendi and like if we have a real disagreement we'll we'll play by queensbury rules and neither of us one will you know cheap shots or you know but there's no they killed millions of people with covid millions of people were killed on a disease that was manmade in a lab with a cooperation of the united states government and the chinese communist party. And you're telling me, and no one's going to see any jail time, and no one's good, like, you, you have, and, and most people in America, if you say, hey, guess what? You know, the head of the NIH lied.

Francis Collins lied. And they have email proof, like, like actual, honest to God, proof that, like, these people lied and businesses were destroyed, tens of millions of people were thrown into poverty, you know, government balance sheets all across the world got to wreck, the economy. the economy got destroyed, millions of people got sick. You know, tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people have had this vaccine that has done major damage. We don't know, really, in terms of numbers.

And nothing's going to happen to these people until you decide that, like, oh, people who will do that to people and murder 60 billion babies in the womb and lie about the Nuremberger game, they might not believe in rules. I know this is a shock to you, Pete, but like, if you're willing to, like, millions of babies, you might be a bad person. Like, they're just bad people doing bad things. And until people understand that, until they can make the friend and enemy distinction and, like, go through the Pete Quinonez University of Crime Bank and listen to all the readings

you've done and all that, I don't think that they're going to be able to understand. And I think that's why you've been demonetized in YouTube and everything else because you're waking people out. Well, you will hear people say we're ruled by psychopaths. And then if somebody gets righteous anger and steps up and says, well, somebody needs to pick up that crown and do something about it, they're more scared of that person than the, I guess the devil they know. and until they get past that fear and until they get that kind of righteous anger amongst themselves, why would anybody step up? You know, the only good thing, to me, the only good thing populism is for, is for so that that person out there who wants to pick up that crown

gauges that there's a, he'll have enough support to do it. Notice I didn't say she, he'll have enough support to do it. and yeah yeah if you keep counter signaling that person they're not going to show up they're not going to show up look i know you i know you got to go so i'll let you um you want me to link to your telegram chat so people can go in and uh and read your musings that would be very kind of you thank you so much for having me p oh well thanks and uh see on the next thought crime syndicate where i think we just decide i think we just decided what to do for the next one and i think people will like it sounds good man all right later i want to welcome everyone back to the pecaniano show dark enlightenment's back

how you doing d i'm fantastic pete uh thank you so much for having me back it's always a pleasure to be here well we're going to read this article by um thomas e woods junior i've heard of that guy i i think i know I think I know who that guy is. It looks like this was written in 1997, actually. And, yeah, you had brought this article up. You had told me about a couple of years ago. So, you know, you had the idea of reading and commenting on it. Why?

Well, if I could just fanboy out here for just a second. Tom Woods, if you hear this, you're a hero. You're one of my personal heroes. I cannot state how much regard I hold you in and how highly I think of you and your scholarship and your stand for what is good, true, and right. And this essay in particular when I accounted it many, many years ago changed my life. Because it told me all kinds of things about the true nature of our conflict, that it's not just an economic thing or anything else. It's a religious conflict between good and evil. And I just,

the moral clarity and truth in this particular essay just blew my mind when I first read it like 20 years ago. And I think more people need to read it. And I know Tom is normally very, very measured, very just-the-facts, you know, very dispassionate. And I think that's a credit to him. But this essay in particular,

I think he gets a little bit more, maybe emotional or isn't quite so disinterested scholarly, I guess. And I think that that's actually a really important part of this is that, you know, our enemies, they're not just people that, like, we disagree with about a 20% tax versus a 30% tax.

They want bad things because they're morally bad people. And I just want to say, that Tom Woods had the courage to write this, you know, 30 years ago. And it reflects very well on him. And I learned a lot from it. And so I just think more people should be aware of it. All right. Sounds that's heartfelt.

All right. Let's get into it. I'm going to start reading. And you, like always do, stop whenever you wish. Christendom's Last Stand by Thomas E. Woods, Jr., 1997. Richard Weaver begins, Ideas Have Consequences by admitting that this is another book about the dissolution of the West.

American conservatives have frequently looked to the New Deal for the origins of this more general dissolution, but both of these giant leaps forward had precedents, had precedents, had precedents, earlier in U.S. history. The real watershed from which we can trace many of the destructive trends that continue to ravage our civilization today was the defeat of the Confederate States of America in 1865. Our so-called intellectual class insists that the war was fought over slavery pure and simple, an argument which the southern activist finds himself responding to with a depressing frequency. A similarly myopic approach to history would conclude that America's first war for independence was fought over a small tax on tea.

Astute observers on both sides of the conflict, in fact, recognized the war less as a clash between two systems of labor than between two kinds of civilization. Southern theologian James Henley-Thornwell described the two sides this way. Quote, The parties in this conflict are not merely abolitionists and slaveholders. They are atheists, socialist, communist, red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side, and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other.

In one word, the world is the battleground. Christianity and atheism, the combatants, and the progress of humanity is at stake. Doesn't that just describe the day to a T? Yeah, it's, uh, he could have written that yesterday, but with updates for language. you know, style and such.

But effectively, right? And this is why I kind of bothered Pete to get it in in June, because we have an alternate religion that is imposing itself on the public right now. Right. If we lived in a Christian country, there'd be banished to the sacred heart everywhere in every public space for the month of June. But we live in a devil country. We live in a demon country.

We live in an evil country. And so there are banners to the first sin of Satan all in our public spaces and our banks and all our major institutions, cow d'ao, to literal Satanism. And Henley Thornball saw this 150, 200 years ago. Yeah. When you look at the list, I just started my reading of The Last Crusade by Carol about the the Spanish Civil War. And this is the Spanish Civil War. Atheist, socialist, communist, red Republicans, Jacobins. Yep, it is. I was just thinking about that because I know you and I talked about Last Crusade is another book that changed my life, but we'll get into that at

someone later date. But no, this is vitally important to understand that these people haven't changed one bit since Thornwell wrote that in, what, 1854 or something? I can't remember when you read it, but he wrote it a long, long time ago. All right, I'm going to keep going. This assessment was quite common among Southern theologians. To the South, wrote Benjamin Morgan Palmer, is assigned the high position of defending before all nations the cause of all religion and of all truth. Looking back on the conflict, Robert Lewis Dabney, one of the most brilliant of the Southern

Presbyterian theologians, agreed that it had fallen to the South to defend eternal truths from the onslaught of an alien ideology. Quoting, Providence ordained that the modern rationalism should select as its concrete object of attack our form of society and our rights. Much of the conflict, in fact, can be summed up in what Richard Weaver identified as the two types of American individualism, each of which is endemic to a particular section of the country. Henry David Thoreau represents the philosophy of northern radicals. His is an aesthetic philosophy,

which refuses to recognize any authority to which the individual has not explicitly consented, and which in any case tends to shun collective affiliations of any kind. Does that sound like now? Sounds like a lot of libertarians,

even a lot of conservatives, I think would agree with that. They would think that any kind of collectivism would be, is socialism, is communism. Anticipating Thoreau, many modern political philosophers when speaking in favor of individual liberty have criticized not simply the state, but also the various intermediary institutions such as family, church, and community that stand between the individual and the state. This is certainly true in the case of Hobbes and Rousseau, who viewed with extreme suspicion any independent association that existed wholly outside of and prior to the central state. Rousseau feared that such associations by dividing the individual's allegiance would impair the functioning of the general will.

And John Stuart Mill is only one of the many classical liberals who consider the bonds of community and other such affiliations to be nearly as threatening to individual liberty as the state itself. But the cult of the individual that has flourished since the Enlightenment and which has celebrated man's progressive emancipation from the very very very, various corporate bodies that once commanded his allegiance can no longer claim the moral high ground. For what was supposed to have been mankind's most progressive enlightened century has yielded only disillusionment and alienation. And I would say mass slaughter. How many people died as a direct result? I mean, you can criticize the Civil War and certainly both of us are no fans of Mr. Lincoln or the way the Civil War turned out. and, you know, when I both spent, you know, a great deal of time talking about this.

But the result, right? Some guy once said, by your fruits, he shall know them. Right. And when our Lord talked about that in the Gospels, you can apply that. Like, what's the 20th century? You know, they lied us into every war in the 20th century after this, right? Yeah, Spain didn't blow up the main, okay? Spain had gone through.

How many civil wars had Spain gone through in the 19th century, Pete? Three. Plus the wars with Napoleon, which is effectively a civil war. Right? So there's three Carlos wars and the war with Napoleon, the occupation, the total destruction of Spain, the occupation of all Spain and Portugal. Right. So Spain, barely hanging on to its colonies, right? blows up the battleship of the most powerful country in the world at that time,

or the second or third most powerful country with, what, five times the people, 10 times the economy, right? Yeah. You know, the Lusitania, you know, World War II, we could go on and on and on. But for our own good, these red Republicans, these Jacobins, these secular saviors have lied us into all of these wars that have gotten tens of millions of people killed

and have lied about you know, oh, your social security, where is the fruit? Where are the large happy families? Where are the beautiful cities? Where are the, you know, gleaming roads that are in perfect repair? Where's the beautiful vistas with the nice, you know, roadside?

Where is all this, where's this utopia that, They promised us, you know, in onward Christian soldiers. Individualism has, yeah, and when you, if you would criticize individualism, people will say, well, no, we never real, that wasn't real individualism. Well, what, what was it? Oh, the only way it can be individualism is if a state doesn't exist? Well, that's not going to happen. So maybe stop

Maybe stop making stuff up. We can talk about the Easter Bunny for an hour if people want to or Santa Claus. And then you can talk about anarchy. No, no, no. The problem is you just don't believe in the tooth fairy hard enough. And the problem is with those Santa Claus people and the Easter Bunny people, because they're both religious fanatics.

But the Tooth Fairy, that Toothberry is real. Well, I mean, the tooth fairy does create an economic zone. Well, obviously, that's why the tooth fairy is real. Because the only thing is just economics. Yeah, because Santa Claus is just a socialist just giving you stuff. But with the tooth fairy, it's a fair trade. It's a fair trade. All right, I'm going to keep going.

Oh, and before we go on, Warren McIntyre put out an episode this week on his show talking about maybe you don't want the state to be smaller. Yes. Brilliant episode. Everyone needs to go listen to it. Yes. He talked about blue laws. For people who don't let know, blue laws would be like cancel alcohol on Sundays or you can't open any stores on Sundays.

And he talked about how those laws actually make the state smaller. and that is so foreign to most people who, you know, believe the state is Satan and radical individualism is Jesus, that, you know, they can't even begin to understand why blue laws would make the state smaller. Yes, and Tom will get into it later than society, but it is precisely because we've made individualism, the the load star of our society that the state has gotten so big because there are no more ethnic clubs or there's no more

fraternal lodges and there's no more churches and there's no more associations and there's no more you know Tom will get into this in the essay but but you know big government is not necessarily bad government a state that says

I was on with Jason Jason from 2-bit podcast a couple weeks ago, right? And Jason was kind enough to have me on. And one of the things that got brought up was Jillian Michael was talking about how she was leaving California and she was just really sickened by the legalization of pedophilia by homosexual men. And she's a half Arab, half Jewish, you know,

lesbian with adopted foreign kids. who are both, you know, black and Latino and blah, blah, boy. You know, she's laying out all of her cards. She's got all the cards in the Victim Olympics. A state that just says, that's really nice, Ms. Michaels, but you're like a foreigner and a pervert, so you just don't get to talk here, is much, much freer than a state that just says, oh, we're all individuals, right? this idea that the government,

you know, any use of morals enforcement by the government is inherently wrong because it somehow impinges on the individual's freedom is how we got here. You know, if we were to wind the clock back to 1997 when Tom wrote this

and didn't change any of the inputs, we'd end up where we're at. So you need to turn things around. You need to change certain things. And one of those things that needs to change, is this idea that the state is inherently immoral when it acts for the common good. Yeah, nothing makes a libertarian anarchist or radical individualist, classical liberals, head explode more than when you tell them that degeneracy grows the state,

that it expands the state at a, I mean, you're talking about you've just put the pedal on the floor. but no they don't want to hear that all you need is how much how much who you remember a few years ago Matthew McConaughey won that Oscar for Dallas Byers Club yeah right because the government

was you know deeply concerned about AIDS who was the villain in that movie Fauci that's right but the government right all of a sudden there was this, you know, crisis among degenerates that required massive state intervention.

And we needed to have all kinds of state sponsorship of, you know, research for this disease and state, you know, state intervention in medicine to get this made and the state intervention to get these people in hospice and state funding for Medicare, state funding for this and state funding for that. And, you know, a huge state outlay because they, these people, right, these people gave Anthony Fauci a bunch of power because they were sexually degenerate. No, but no, Fauci should have been working for a private company. If he was working for a private company, it would have been totally different. You know, if he was the only one who could

solve the problem, no, it's the monopoly. Don't you get that? It's the monopoly. It's not, it's not my actions. My actions only affect me. As long as I'm not hurting somebody or taking their stuff, what I'm doing to myself, that doesn't harm anyone else. Yeah, and my son still believes in the tooth fairy, but he's four. All right, let's keep going here. This kind of individualism coincides well with the design to the omnipotence state.

The central state also wants to liberate the individual from his traditional attack, not because they infringe on his liberty, but because they compete with the central state for his allegiance. In order to obtain absolute power, the centralizers seek to crush all competing source of authority. Historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions by claiming that only a strong central authority can adequately protect the individual. But in practice, from whom did the state protect the individual? from family members, wives from their husbands, children from their parents, from churches, from communities, and it is done so by increasing its own power at the expense of these institutions. What Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature.

Once these institutions have been destroyed, once they have ceased to perform their traditional roles, something will step into that vacuum, and that something is the absolute state. See, this is where people who are radical. Yeah. This is a place where radical individualists are going to hear those last two sets. They're going to interpret it the way they want. So when it says historically such despots have concealed their true intentions, it's like, oh, it's the despots. It's all the despots fault.

It doesn't matter if we get rid of churches and we get rid of civic organizations and we get rid of mutual aid societies. No. We've played your town with thorners. Yeah. No, no, that's fine. It's the despot's fault. But then Tom comes back and he, you know, says, um,

he blames, he says Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature. That's not something that I remember the Sheldon Richmond at the libertarianist to put out a book called them, what social animals owed to each other. And when that was announced, on Twitter, the amount of libertarians and anarcho-capitalists that went under it and said nothing, they don't even want to know what's in the book.

They just read the title. And they said, I don't owe you anything. Okay. All right. That's the game you want to play. If you want to play jungle ball rules, right? Try building a civilization. Try building a gigantic bank with beautiful.

parquet floors and fluted columns and towering glass skyscrapers when we're playing jungle bowl rules and we owe nothing to one another. And I can just like, hey, I know you've mixed all this concrete for this foundation, but I need it more and I don't owe you anything, so I'm just going to steal it. You sure you want to play that, you know, that game? but they have but they but they but they have four hundred dollar air 15s and i have a bunch of friends and they don't have any because they're individualists that's the probably see that's the thing you know i'm sitting here where i'm sitting and i know that if i get into trouble there are

people that i can call who will show up and who will help me and i'm talking about violence with of violence. How many people talking about individualism have that? How many people have gone out of their way to build the kind of social capital that these people would grab their guns and come and help protect me and protect mine? And I would do the same for them. How many of these individuals have that? Very good idea.

Yeah. Yeah. as they're hiding, you know, as they're hiding in their homes, you know, during, during COVID, tweeting about how brave they are because they didn't wear their mask in their living room today. The political science, go ahead. And actually, just a brief point about that. Okay, so all those, who are the people that resisted the COVID shot? Those were the people that were attached to intermediate institutions.

It was the people who had a strong attachment to their church. It was the people who had a strong attachment to something else in their life that could say, you know what? Someone at, you know, embroidery club or someone at my church or someone else, you know, said, this is nonsense and here's why. And then I looked into it and I found out it was nonsense. And, right, I was having a conversation with someone yesterday. and they didn't know that like the United States blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.

And they didn't know that not because they're ignorant person or they're deliberately ignorant. They just don't pay attention to news. So they pay attention to mainstream news and the mainstream news never talked about the fact that the United States made war on Germany. Right. So it is only the people that have these intermediate institutions in their lives. And it could just be like a group chat, but had a source of information, a source of solidarity, outside of the total state that were able to resist this.

So we've seen it in action. You know, and I would say that there were a lot of people who flying the libertarian individual banner, places like Reason Magazine and Cato, Cato, where that homosexual deviant David Boaz, who's burning in hell right now, died recently. You used to, well, never mind.

I won't talk about the things that have been told about people who worked at Cato, especially young men who worked at Cato, young college-age men who worked at Cato and David Boas. You know, they defended the regime. They came out with articles about the libertarian argument for, vaccine mandates. And the way they get around that is, oh, well, we just ran an opinion piece.

Okay. In my opinion, you know, you should have all your wealth confiscated. Your building should be salted, raised, and then salted. You know, there's prime real estate in Washington, D.C. that would be better used as a garbage dump. Rather than the Cato Institute, because Cato, right?

Because Cato isn't actually interested in building up. these intermediate institutions and actually making people free. No, they will write articles to tear them down and say that they're unnecessary. All we need is an economic zone, you know, with a little, you know, just cut about 20% of regulations and everything will be fine. You'll have some more individual liberty. The political scientist, J.N. Figgis, was particularly prophetic when he remarked earlier this century, quote, more and more it is clear that the mere individual's freedom against an omnipotent state may be no better than slavery.

More and more, it is evident that the real question of freedom in our day is freedom of the smaller unions to live within the whole. How many people won't let Texas be Texas now because, well, the trans-disabled lesbian in Austin isn't free in Texas. So we, we, the total state, must intervene on the behalf of the trans-disabled lesbian in your wheel. chair and make sure that people in Texas aren't able to live the way that they want because they decided as Texans like we like guns. So his most libertarians, radical individualism, and big government are two sides of the same coin. It has been part of the genius of southern civilizations who have recognized this all along.

Repeled by a philosophy that will lead to a combination of moral anarchy and political tyranny, John Randolph of Roanoke, Weaver's second type, would have none of Thoreau's pop theology of radical individualism. He acknowledges, good. Moral anarchy, anarcho tyranny, right? This is all, you know, truth. I'm no fan of Fons, or is von Balthasar, the Catholic theologian, modernist, terrible in many, many ways. But one thing that you did say that was really, really great is that truth is a symphony. If you hear something true, it might just kind of be the windward line off in a distance, but it's going to harmonize with the violin line that you hear somewhere else.

So I hope people will include a link in the show description to this essay. But when you read it, think about all the other true things that you've heard, whether it's Oren's book or Sam Francis or that we discussed a couple weeks ago on. thought crimes indicated if there's anything you get from this essay think of how many times you could say oh that could have been written yesterday or that describes think you know like think about all of this stuff that's consistent with what you know right um he he acknowledges with aristotle that man is a political animal and that it is only through his interaction and relationships with other people and through his membership and

society that he becomes truly human. Randolph's defense of state's rights, on the one hand, had a repudiation of arbitrary central authority, explicitly recognizes the individual status as a member of a corporate body, in this case, a state. Yeah, that's one thing that you'll hear some of the libertarians who don't want you to know that they're leftists, but the easiest way, I mean, there's tons of easy ways. to find out when a libertarians really just a leftist or progressive. States can't have rights.

Only individuals can have rights. Well, that's not the point of state's rights, is that you can only have rights as a member of a body. And this is something that C.J. Engel and I were talking about saying that rights don't come from nature. rights come from a historical, cultural model of who and where you came from. They're historically contingent. Right. Yeah.

You cannot have, as soon as you say rights are from nature, rights come from God, while they're universal. That means that every street shitter walking over the border has the same rights as you do. now and you can't say anything about it. Right. And I have no right. You know, I mean, my particular bailiff right of urban planning and city, like, so if I have no right to defend my hometown,

I have no right to defend my home. If I can't say that this is a town full of, you know, Scott's Irish people and there's the Catholic Church and the Presbyterian church and that's it. And if you're not Scotch, you know, if you're not Scots Irish were married to a Scots Irish person, you know, kindly move on down the road.

Yeah. Then I have, then I, then, you know, I have no right to, like, maybe what about my right to not have low trust foreigners, you know, traipsing through my yard because they felt like it, you know, they've got a right to be there, right? They live here too. What's your problem? Yeah. I mean, how can you have private property if you have, if rights are, or, um,

universal. Everybody has the rights of everything. You just fight over it. That's it. It's basically, if you believe in universal rights, you basically believe in you're a, you're a Darwinist. You believe that, you know, that I don't,

I don't have any, I don't have any legacy. I don't come from anywhere. I don't have a people. I don't have any. It's just everyone for themselves. Or, you have a cultural historical right that a group of people agree upon. And if you're not a part of that group, maybe you can marry into the group and you can adopt these beliefs.

But these beliefs aren't for anybody who's just walking in. And people just can't get that because, you know, we live in a democracy, bro. and people have rights and people are individuals. And the state, the existence of the state is just, I mean, you can't be, you can't have individual rights if the state exists, bro. Yeah, well, Hans talked about this in multiple times, but in democracy, the guy of sales, right? Like, the border is just merely the collective property line of the net taxpayers of a particular polity. And that the net taxpayers of a particular polity don't want. you to cross that mind for whatever reason.

They should be able to say, hey, keep out. And keep going. It is almost unnecessary to point out that over the past few centuries, it has been the rose brand of individualism that has flourished in Randolph's, which has suffered a precipitous decline. As Richard Weaver explained in 1948, quote, For four centuries, every man has been not only his own priest, but his own professor of ethics,

and the consequence is an anarchy, which threatens even that minimum consensus of value necessary to the political state. Today, of course, the message imbibed by our children and by all too many adults as well is that no moral court of higher appeal exists apart from individual whim. Bro, I just decided I'm a girl, and I'm going to put an address, and you have to let me change with your daughter, or you're a bigot. Yeah, I'm like 6'4 and 250 and fat and have a beard. But I'm a pretty girl, Pete. You have to let me change in the same changing room as your knees. I'm just going to take your word on that, and I don't want to see a picture. And this is the absurdity, right?

like, of course. I don't know those things, but like, no more cohort apart from individual whim. So we have this absolutely insane person. It's like, I am a pretty girl. And I am a six foot four man with a beard. And you have to let me into the same changing room as your 12-year-old daughter. Because my individual whim says so.

As long. as long as they're not hurting anyone. As long as they're not hurting anyone. But what happens after they hurt someone? Because they're really likely to hurt people. Because they're crazy and evil. What then? How about we just prevent them hurting people by saying,

yeah, nah, no, like you're not a pretty girl in a dress. You're just a crazy person who needs to be locked up for your own good and the good of society. But you're acting like the overwhelming majority of these people are on meds. Yeah, maybe they are. and if they're not, they should be. Maybe a dude who's 6'4, 250 pounds, who throws on a sundress

and then says, I'm a pretty girl who's 12. Maybe that's your first clue that this person is, in fact, crazy as shit and probably doesn't belong in normal society. Continuing. It is highly significant, therefore, that the U.S. Constitution makes hardly any reference to individuals at all. It views Americans, not as part of an undifferentiated mass, but as members of particular states with rights and traditions of their own.

The Bill of Rights, moreover, erroneously invoked by modern civil libertarians, was never intended to protect individuals from the state governments. Jefferson is far from alone in assisting that the only federal government, that only the federal government is restricted from regulating the press, church-state relations, and so forth. The states may do as they wish in these areas, and they know this. And that's why Roe v. Wade, that's why when the Dobbs decision was overturned, they lost their minds because they know it goes back to the state. And a state can be, well, you can't get an abortion here. And an abortion is an abortion is one of their sacred sacraments. But yeah, my friend Specter, the third rail, many years ago, you know, we were junk around, but he came up with an insight. The USA stands for usury, sodomy and abortion.

And it has for a long, long time. And when you have a society built on free money and sexual immorality, that's a society doomed to fail. Nine of the 13 original colonies, I think, had established churches. you know, men were hung for What was Maryland? Maryland. Yeah, it was Catholic. Men were hung for sodomy

in George Washington's Army. Thomas Jefferson thought that Sodomite should receive a death penalty. Thomas Jefferson, this is not, you know, arch reactionary, crypto monarchist Alexander Hamilton. This is old T.J. pot-smoking libertarian himself

thought sodomite should be executed right and if you didn't like you know the way of particular state and there were actual conflicts Tom talks for these and other books you're talking about but like you know if you were

from Rhode Island and you didn't like you know and this happened a lot actually you know particularly obnoxious people would be like well I'm a congregationalist and I'm going to go into Massachusetts the established Puritan you know, state and just be obnoxious and cause trouble. And they'd be like, well, we don't want you here. Leave.

You're deliberately being a pain in the ass. Go away. And if me, as someone who lives in a red state, I don't want like pornography billboards on the side of my street, on the side of the highway. You know, I don't want my child who's just now learning to read going, live nude

nud girls hey mom why's that lady did not have any clothes on when we're driving on the street I want to be able to ban that I don't care about your first man right to display pornography to small children on the side of the road

and millions of other parents should have the right to say yeah no no advertising strip clubs on billboards in our state well I mean that just means you're prude of some sort and you know you hate other people's freedoms you just want to yep and i have rights too why can't i live in the kind of society i want why why do sane people normal people historically the norm people why do they always have to give give way to red republicans and jacobids and crazy

people and perverts why is it always that i have to lose and you get to win and anytime i say hey, I object. You get to follow me home till you're sitting on my front porch blaring obscene music and showing my children pornography because technically speaking, being right outside the sidewalk in front of my house, you're in public so I can't just shoot you. Technically speaking, I didn't follow you home. No, everyone on my streets

should say, hey, cut that out or we're going to solve this problem. as a corporate body. We're going to engage some collective self-defense and stop you from acting this way. Sounds like fascism to me, Dee. Sounds like fascism.

Yeah, well, that's, I no longer really care about that sort of label. Call me that all day long. Yeah, it's like, and you're a fascist, and what are you going to do about it? I don't really, what do you? Kind of honestly disappointed.

There was a fascism test going around and the very good, you know, private group chat for the show. And I only scored like an 87. I don't know. Out of 100. I think I got an 80. I think I got an 83. Oh, wow.

I mean, I was hoping for a 90, you know, I was hoping for an A, but I'll take the B plus. Yeah. I'll be fine with the B. All right. For the first seven decades of its existence, the United States found its constituent parts very rebellious indeed. many Americans would have agreed with John Randolph of Roanoke about whom John Greenlift Woodier once wrote To be honest or too proud to feign,

a love he never cherished, beyond Virginia's borders line, his patriotism perished. Not only was John Randolph a great American, a great man, but like how absurd is it that we have military bases from Maine to Hawaii and from Florida to Alaska and that that someone from Hawaii, a congressional representative from Hawaii, a senator from Hawaii,

can vote on stuff that happens in Maine or someone in Florida can vote on stuff and that happens in Alaska or that some Alaskan can vote on something that happens in Florida. It's ridiculous. You know, maybe if you were in Alabama, you might have some say about what happens in Georgia and Florida and Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee because those could affect you. What do you care what happens in Idaho? Like if you care what happens in Idaho as someone from Alabama, there's something wrong with you.

Well, because what they accuse us of is what they're always guilty of. They accuse us of caring about what's happening, you know, what they're doing in their bedroom across the country while they're, you know, worried about what we're doing. You know, if I never have to go above the Mason-Dixon line again, I'll be happy. I'm fine where I am. But, yeah, they, you know, and another thing is they hate us because, you know, we believe in God. church to do this. They have their own God. They have their own church.

Yes. They have their, and they don't realize it. They don't realize that, like, if they find out that Alabama outlawed abortion, they're going to want to do something about it. Okay. Why? You live in New York. What do you care?

Why do you care what happens? in Alabama. They're just a bunch of dumb rednecks anyway. Why do you care? Well, they can't be dumb rednecks. Why can't they be dumb rednecks? I mean, if you think that they're a bunch of troglodyte and knuckle dragging hicks who, you know,

drive F-250s and, you know, smoke marlboro reds and dip and you go to even deals with her. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you care what these people do? Oh, because your religion compels you to you. Well, my religion compels

me to stop people murdering babies. Yeah, well. So, which religion is true? Well, there's only one way to solve that particular problem. And it ain't through argumentation ethics.

Nope. Oh, no. No. I caught you on a performative contradiction. I win. I win. Oh, wait a minute. Why are you pointing a gun at me? Oh, because no one in the real world gives a fuck about argumentation ethics. You have to be some autistic, you know, friggin, I'm not going to straw man them. But they, yeah, there's just, I mean, theory is fun.

Yeah, I like reading, I like reading theory. But I also exist. I exist in the real world. and in the real world there are people and there are people who you have to, you either respect their boundaries and you do what you can to help them if they need it or you are going to have chaos. and the best way to not have a problem with helping them or even having the local government force people to help them, but which you don't really need to do if you share a culture

and you share values, you share religion, you sound alike, you look alike. There was no problem in Sweden with their gigantic well. welfare state until they started importing, until they started emptying the prisons of Africa, and putting those people in there. Then it became a problem. Until there was a bunch of money. Economics aside.

Yeah, it wasn't a problem because they all looked alike. Well, they believed they were all in different Lutherans. They were all Swedish genetically, right? they all came from the same places, right? You could, if you've ever been to Europe, right? Then, yep, and live there a significant amount of time there.

Live there, yep. Then you can start to recognize, like, that guy's not just German. He's like Bavarian. You know, like pure Bavarian. phenotype is a thing. Right? Like, oh, that guy's a Saxon. Well, how do you know? I mean, we'll just look at the guy. He's from Saxony.

All of his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, great-grandparents, all of them were Saxons. And probably he came from this, and I'm not very good at it, but if you spend any significant amount of time in, you know, Europe and start to notice these things, you could notice like this guy's from this place and most of the time you're right right? One of the rules I have in my life is that no one no woman with

East Anglia Faye should ever be allowed to have political power and you can see it like kind of the pinch school mom look the Elizabeth Warren Governor Kate Brown of Oregon right like nope nope nope just no you look like you told

Goody Thompson you know said Goody Thompson was having sex with the devil. I'm just not going to let you have political power. Because that East Anglian school marmed stuff just leads to disaster, as Tom has elicited here. All right. Let's go. We got more to, I just checked. We got a good bit more here.

So, all right. Upon ratifying the Constitution, for example, several states explicitly reserve the right to withdraw from the new union, quoting, whatsoever the same shall be perverted to hurt injury or oppression, unquote, and all the states retain the spirit of resistance well into the 19th century. John Taylor of Caroline, repelled by the Alien and Sedition Acts, advocated succession as early as 1798. Madison and Jefferson drew up the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions, respectively, the latter of which suggested the doctrine of nullification whereby a state government could interpose between the people and the federal government

when the latter exceeds its legitimate constitutional authority. And Tom has a full book called nullification. You read all about it. After the Louisiana purchase and then again after Jefferson's 1807 embargo, former Secretary of State Timothy Pickering gained some temporary support for a plan by which New England and New York would succeed and form an independent country. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard. Yeah, right, yeah. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard as secessionist in character, but we now know that it was convened by moderate federalists who hoped to keep secessionist

sentiment at bay. The point remains, however, that secessionist sentiment was widespread and by no means was it confined to the South. and these are but a few of the lesser-known examples of the jealousy with which the states once guarded their sovereignty and independence. The nullification crisis of the early 1830s, for instance, has not even been mentioned. The secession of the southern states was virtually the last sign of life to emerge from a once vibrant federal system. For by the 1860s, such figures as Andrew Johnson and Ben Wade were prepared to dismiss as traitors, anyone who even applied, appealed to the Constitution, let alone advocated secession. And in spite of all the evidence to the contrary,

the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, that secession was unconstitutional. Not surprisingly, after the war, it became common to replace the old expression. The United States are with the United States is, or they replaced these United States with the United States. Most significance for our, significant for our purposes was the ratification by highly questionable means of the 14th Amendment. Now we can debate the original intent of this amendment, but it seems clear that it inaugurated a radically new stage in American constitutional history.

From the point of view of the federal essential government, the fundamental units of the federal union were no longer the several states, but the individuals of which those states were composed. Can I talk about this for a second? Sure. So just as an exercise, it's a useful thing to do. Copy and paste the text of the 14th Amendment into your word processor. And then do the same for the first 10 amendments. The 14th Amendment is like as much text as the entire Bill of Rights. I'm pretty sure.

I've done this a couple times and I can't, I don't have it offhand. But right, like it is verbose to the point of being absurd. and Chris Caldwell has talked about this in the age of entitlement. But basically, we live in this 14th Amendment state where everything is justified through this particular interpretation of the 14th Amendment, right? Like liberals and conservatives are arguing over good faith or bad faith interpretations of the 14th Amendment. You know, the reason that the Constitution had, like, in the very, very fine print that gay dudes can get married, quote unquote married, is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't

regulate who lives on your street as a neighborhood is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't prevent people from posting pornographic billboards in public is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't, the 14th Amendment has basically taken over the rest of the Constitution

as like the lens through which everything is interpreted. And everything bad, that we're dealing with, whether it's sexual perverts or an overreaching state or you know racial problems

or problems between sexes. All of these come down to like this weird interpretation of the 14th Amendment that like the 14th Amendment demands we'd shoot ourselves in the head on behalf of trans disabled lesbians and wheelchairs

or like America isn't real and you know, if you don't think that the 14th Amendment demands this interpretation, you like hate America, puppies, apple pie, and all things good in the world. And Oron talks about this in his book. But like the 14th Amendment has been so abused and so perverted that I think the only way to deal with it is just scrap the whole damn thing. And I don't, I'm not a lawyer and I wouldn't be the first person, the first person to add. ask of how to how to fix it. But you just can't allow this sort of egregious misinterpretation to continue because

it's been proven to be so open to abuse. Yeah. I just did this really quick. I did some quick copy and paste. I made a document. The first, the 14th Amendment is one page of this PDF with a little bit of the First Amendment at the bottom of the first page. The Bill of Rights goes through the second page

and one line on the third page. So basically the Bill of Rights is about four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment. So 10 amendments are four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment. Right. And all of it's been abused. Every single clock.

has been abused to the point of making it just something that we can't depend on it anymore. It has to be scrapped. Another good book, Tom Woods, and I think Kevin Gutsman, who killed the Constitution, shows how basically every, it goes through every, basically, all the Bill of Rights, and I think through all the amendments and shows which, president and how they basically destroyed them all. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So, yeah. Great, great book. Highly, highly recommended. All right. Let me see. Okay, where was I? We're composed. Okay. The architects of this

constitutional revolution were less than candid about what they were doing. The beginning of this process by which American federalism was destroyed was couched in the saccharine language of justice and rights. The states cannot be trusted to protect the individual Americans were told. Only the federal leviathan can do this. So once again, in the name of protecting individual liberty, the central state set out to crush an important intermediate institution. The state governments.

Well, how... Yeah. I got an argument many, many years ago with a prominent conservative guy who was decrying how awful the federal government was. And I pointed out to him, like, bro, without, you know, federal funds, your state government is broke. What are you going to do? Right?

The state governments are no, at present moment, are no more than pass-through entities for federal funds. Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP benefits, Section 8 housing, state highway transportation funds, right? Look at your state's budget. How much of that is federal funds? I guarantee you, guarantee you it's at least 30%. And that doesn't count like federal matching grants for local school districts that don't necessarily touch the federal budget or the state budget. I guarantee you at least 30% of your state budget is federal funds. So the states have effectively been erased as sovereign entities.

I mean, never let, you know, never mind the 17th Amendment and whatever else. But the state governments have been destroyed and they've been conquered and they're merely just passed through energy. of Leviathan. Yeah, I mean, I've tried to tell people this as somebody who, you know, has worked in an official capacity at one point that, you know, if your state has like emissions testing, it's not because the state wants emissions testing. It's because the federal government wants emissions testing in your state and has said, we will pull funds if you don't do emissions testing in your state.

Right, the 55 mile an hour speed limit. Yeah, all of that. Yeah, 55-mile an hour speed limit. Insurance, car insurance, seatbelt laws, all of that. All of it. Where are we going? Although a moderately conservative Supreme Court was able to keep at bay, the utter obliteration of the federal system, the 14th Amendment has since become Washington's favorite tool for imposing its will on what remains of the states. The human fight, the human rights that it seeks to protect grow stranger and stranger every year. The 14th Amendment was invoked a few years ago, as you know that will recall, to vindicate the inalienable human right of an unqualified overweight woman to attend an all-male military academy. Noted that that woman is now in Congress. That was Nancy Mace.

And she's a disgusting, disgusting person. But that was the Citadel. And it's like, this was written. 30 years ago. Right. Now we literally have, instead of women attending to Citadel, we now have, you know, men bathing with women, people in wheelchairs demanding that they be allowed into professional sports leagues.

I mean, there is literally no limit to which these people will stretch the meaning of words, and it is beyond satire. The British libertarian and Southern sympathize are. Lord Acton saw all this coming and expressed his profound anguish to Robert Ely in 1866. Quote, I saw in states' rights the only availing check upon the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction, but as the redemption of democracy. Therefore, I deem that you are fighting the battle for our liberty, our progress, and our civilization, and I mourned for the stake that was lost at Richmond more deeply.

then I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo. Well, look what happened. Germany is no longer sovereign. Italy is no longer sovereign. Spain is no longer sovereign. England is no longer sovereign. They're occupied by American troops. And anytime, I mean,

AFD is pretty moderate. But the German federal, you know, deep state, intelligence agencies are monitoring those people and throwing people in jail for saying that the, should be Germany should be German, right? My friend Mark Collette can't organize his political party, his patriotic alternative.

They've been erected by, rejected by the Electoral Commission like 10 times, right? So Lord Acton was completely correct here. They saved themselves at Waterloo, but that same Leviathan, which won at Richmond, has taken over England, France, Germany, Italy is taking over Poland right now, it's taking over Spain. But if there was a genuine popular revolt in Germany, you know, and they were playing El Slander Rouse as they did it, does anyone really doubt that the American troops stationed in Germany wouldn't just go out and crush those people? do you really think the American trips who were stationed in Germany, you know, who were there because of the Cold War,

which ended 35 years ago, that we're supposed to... They were never there for the Cold War. I mean, that... Sure, yeah, okay. But it was to keep Germany in line. It was to keep Europe in line. It was to keep Europe under Zionist control.

Right. Well, of course, you and I both know that. But, like, the ostensible reason, right, is like, oh, we got to have U.S. troops in Ramshund airbase because, like, fold the gap at stuff, bro. Like the German, brave German firebock will stop the Soviet tanks at the fold of gap and we'll fight shoulder to shoulder with, you know, the Bundeswehr to stop the communist menace. Well, okay, well, maybe if Germans, as Germans say, you know, we don't feel like having all

these people who are foreigners here who rape children and don't work and don't contribute and produce graffiti everywhere and have kids that they're destroying our country. We want them out. What is Ramstein going to be done? The U.S. Air Force will be used to bomb those people in Germany because Lord Acton was completely correct. All right, I'm going. Just as Northern Radicals sought to make the individual the fundamental political unit, so also did they attempt to make him supreme in the moral and ethical sphere. This is

particularly true in the case of the abolitionists, many of whom stated frankly that if forced to choose between their private beliefs on the one hand and the Holy Scriptures on the other, they would be compelled to jettison the Bible. What Southern theologians found especially alarming was the due to dubious method of argumentation which the abolitionists employed. They might have argued, to offer just one example, that biblical slavery might not be analogous to modern slavery. There were certainly a number of such arguments which, if not compelling, at least were based on relevant considerations. But the abolitionists tended instead to make vague appeals to the spirit of the New Testament. And the result of this kind of reasoning, the Southern Divines recognized, was the moral anarchy that

ensues when, as we ever put it, every man becomes his own professor of ethics. It is worth recalling that a good number of anti-slavery feminists took the next step and compared the status of the slave to that of the married woman. In fairness, a great many abolitionists were horrified by this line of argument, but having made their bed, they were now being forced to sleep in it. Dabney was rather amused at the spectacle of anti-feminist abolitionists, desperately trying to refute feminist claims when in fact the feminists were only using the abolitionist approach to biblical exegesis. Pete, have you ever taken a road trip to rural America?

Yeah. I mean, I live in pretty much. I live in pretty rural America. Okay. So I've done it a few times. An interesting exercise for you folks out there in radio land. Once you get like really rural. I've had this experience more than once.

Hit search on the dial, right? The rock station, pop station, and then you'll hit, you know, 809.7, low end of the dial, low power, and this is Bible hour, but Pastor John.

And today we're going through the Bible, you know, Gospel of John, chapter 2, verse 3. And he'll preach on that. for an hour. And the next thing you'll hit is 91.7 National Public Radio

for Upper Missoula Valley and then through the rest of the dial. And the only two radio stations you'll get in large parts of rural America are NPR and the Christian radio station.

This is very real. This is very real. you are not lying from a lot of things but dishonest isn't one of them the reason those two radio stations is the only stations you can get in large parts of America

is that they're both religious radio stations NPR is just religious radio for secular liberals I'll never forget you know many years ago I was sitting in my coming home from church and I like to listen to the enemy's radio and, you know, morning edition Sunday.

And they had their segment with their ethicist. And I was just thinking to myself, what the fuck do they have an ethicist for? Like, I just got back from church. If I really want to know what, if I have an ethical problem, I'll go see my pastor. And then I realized, wait a minute, none of these people have a pastor. NPR is their religion. Like, this is just religious radio for shitlips. And.

Right? So all of the disaster of the 19th Amendment, I mean, I've talked about it. You know, if you really want to understand how bad it was, talk to our mutual friend Charles Bedele, right? But like, this is the same impulse. These people are just secular progressives. It is just as much a religion as I declare that the KGV is the only valid time translation of the Bible. and anybody who uses anything other than the King James version is a heretic and an apostate. You must understand that this Bible is the word of God.

There's no difference. And the lie is that the NPR person will say, oh, well, we're not religious. We're just telling you the news. Bullshit. You're just as religious as the guy who thinks that, everything you ever needed to know was in the King James Bible. He's just honest about it. And you're lying.

Yep. I mean, it's 100%. I mean, everything you said was true. It's out here. Yeah. And it really is. It really is when you meet somebody who is a liberal, says they're a liberal, if you meet somebody who, if you meet a college professor,

they have NPR. When they start their car, NPR comes on. It's their religious station. 100%. Cannot argue with you at all. I'm going to keep going here. The South has never been fertile soil for religious liberalism. This is not to say that Southerners are guilty of the unforgivable sin of intolerance.

As Professor Eugene Genovese reminds us, a kind of tolerance is observed in both north and south, but it is a different kind in each place. In the north, where religion is more frequently considered a matter of mere individual preference and whim, the attitude is, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in ours. But in the South, where tolerance is not the same thing as indifference, people are more likely to say, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in his. Unitarianism, for example, utterly failed to take root in the South, and in 1860, only 20 of the country's 664 universalist churches could be found below the Mason-Dixon line. Resisting the spirit of the age, Southern Calvinists refused to adulterate the Christian faith with 18th century philosophies and refrained from turning Jesus Christ into a divine Barney the dinosaur.

Many Southern observers noticed that the Northern society in which individual conscience and rationalist philosophies has replaced Scripture as the generally accepted authority lacked a certain stability that was so conspicuous in the South. As Donald Davidson put it in the attack on Leviathan, quote, While the North has been changing its apparatus of civilization every 10 years or so, the South has stood its ground at a fairly safe distance. and happily remain some 40 or 50 years behind the times. The South has never been able to understand how the North, in its astonishing quest for perfection, can junk an entire system of ideas almost overnight and start on another one, which is newer, but no better than the first.

That is one of the principal differences out of many real differences between the sections. And it's, I mean, how true is it? You know my favorite thing about driving through a small town, small southern town is Pete? But is, you get out of the big cities and you'll drive through a small town in Alabama or Mississippi, which I've done. And I'll be like, man, we got a, we got a lot of diversity here. We got a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church, and a Methodist church. Hell, we even got a Catholic church.

That is my favorite thing. And right there in the middle of town, you know, for those of you who know me, right, I care very deeply about town planning and the way we, the structural way, which we live our lives, right? Right in the middle of town, you will have a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church, and a Methodist church. And maybe a Catholic church on the outskirts. The Catholic church is on the outskirts in our town. Yeah, of course it is. But like, right? that's that's that's that's diversity in the south is you got a presbyterian church for the scottish people methodist church for the welsh people maybe an anglican church but that's diversity we even have a seventh day adventist church here oh my heavens yeah we're diverse but they're all right on main street ain't they are all of them that's right the seventh day adventist one is right downtown right next

to the flower shop. All right, let me go. In his own assessment, Dabney was characteristically blunt. Quote, we might safely submit the comparative soundness of Southern society to this test, that it has never generated

any of those loathsome isms, which northern soil breeds, as rankly as the slime of Egypt that spawns of frogs. While the North has her Mormons, her various sects of communists, or free lovers or spiritualists, and a multitude of corrupt visionaries whose names and crimes are not even known among us, our soil has never proved congenial to the birth or introduction

of a single one of those inventions. The South has indeed stood firmly over the years against a series of deplorable trends in politics and religion, but her adversary is tenacious. Liberalism has no logical stopping point, no points of rest. Once, one traditional belief is institutional, or institution has been undermined? The liberal proceeds to his next conquest. The number of practices we are expected to tolerate, for example, seems to increase by the hour. The University of Massachusetts, apparently in all seriousness,

has added pedophiles to its list of protected groups under its non-discrimination policy. And that's now, like, yeah, 30 years ago, the University of Massachusetts was full of crazy, people and communists and well pretty other wacko leftists and now you can't

discriminate against you know LGBT LM and OP people yeah a useful exercise that liberals always fail is you ask a conservative in what society would you be a liberal and they'll say

I'd be a liberal in like Tsarist Russia in 1650. And you ask liberals, like, in what society, would you be a conservative? And they never have an answer. Because they're always chasing perfection on earth. Which, if you read your Bible, it's not possible. The same is true in the political arena.

The revolution that began in the 1860s has proceeded to this day with a cold and relentless logic. It was a vain hope that the left would be satisfied with undermining state and local authority. Now its target is national sovereignty. The old struggle between the local and particular on the one hand and the abstract and universal on the other is being carried out on this new level. Two years ago, while at Harvard, I attended an address by Jack Kemp, who could hardly contain his excitement as he described the ideal international order that he saw coming rapidly to fruition, what he called the world without borders. world without borders as the logical outcome of the process I have described in which the smaller

associations which once claimed men's allegiances having gradually and deliberately weakened. We have witnessed over the past decades, and especially since the end of the Cold War, the growth of transnational globalist elites for whom patriotic sentiments and national sovereignty are so many obstacles to be overcome in the construction of a new world order. in the course of building a centralized national government, it suffices to weaken the competing authorities of families, churches, local governments, state governments, and so on. And if you are a libertarian seeking to tear those down,

you are on their side. Well, what's the point of going to Paris and evening McDonald's? Yeah. What's the point of visiting Florence or Rome or Berlin? or Madrid and seeing strip malls. Right? Like, I want to go to Alabama,

and I want my local barbecue pit to be operated by either, like, the most Scots-Irish dude you've ever seen, or, like, a guy who's so cold black that, like, like, bends around him. I got both of those for you. Okay.

I'll have to come hang out. right right and i want that guy to be like like this is where we get the wood from and he can point to me the tree stand that his family has been using for the last 150 years to get their their oak to smoke the wood over right and i and while i'm eating his brisket i want him to trash north carolina barbecue as like completely inferior right mustard why you talk about mustard in my shop. Don't you know that white sauce is the one true way to barbecue. Don't you understand? I want that because and then I want to go to North Carolina and be like, have that guy go Alabama white sauce. Get out of you. Right. Like that's the point.

Right. This, this idea that Jack Kemp had that right, that everywhere could just have the same, you know, whoa, Burke, King, McDonald's, Wendy's. That's all the diversity we need. It's, it's, it's both anti-human and disgusting. It's stupid and evil. Yeah, and just to remind everybody, Jack Kemp was a Republican. So, yeah, there you are. Paul Ryan was his greatest disciple.

All right. But for those who would construct the unitary global state, there remains a persistent problem of national allegiance and loyalty. A few of the methods of choice employed by those who would absorb the United States into the United States. to a global regime include a policy of open immigration, which balkanizes the populace and makes resistance to central states' designs less likely, the promotion of multiculturalism intended to make children ashamed of their country and its history, and trade agreements like

NAFTA and GATT, which delegate legislative authority to unaccountable supernational bodies. Oh, and I'll just mention everything that we just mentioned there in those parentheses, a few of the methods of choice, Cato, the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine and those like libertarian kind of thing. And Cato, the reason I bring up Cato is politicians listen to Cato. They actually use Cato. They use them because Cato is a Cato is seen as a institute that wants to. an institution that wants freedom. So if I say, oh, wow, look at this. It says open borders.

It's from that Nostorasta, that fucking guy on Twitter. He just did this. He did this immigration, and it shows that immigrants were net positive, economically. None of this stuff. Everything here, they employ pro-NFTA. He wears a, you know, leather jacket, dude. And he's a rebel, man. I mean, you know, and, you know, I know a lot of people who call themselves like

conservative libertarians would call themselves right libertarians. They would argue that open immigration is the right policy because if not, you're using the police and that just turns everything into a police state. And you're, what do you like, you like the police? Are you a statist? Yeah. When the status is used on communist and trainees, yes. Yeah, when you use a state on your enemy, it's actually a good thing.

Oh, but at some point, if you grow the power of the state, then when you lose power, they can use that power. Yeah, they're doing that right now. So shut the fuck up. That's what they're doing right now. Okay. Why do I have to worry about the SPLC coming after me trying to destroy my, life and docks me and find where I live and toss and incite communist to firebomb my

my house right oh oh wait a second fucking morons yeah it's unbelievable and you know and I was there at one point I was a libertarian at one point but just wake up what I mean I'm fully I'm almost fully convinced that like 80% of the people who are still libertarians, just do it because it's an identity. They don't have an idea. They're not a Christian. They're not a husband. They're not a father.

They need an identity. And libertarian is their identity. Yeah. And if they stop being libertarian, they get that of the group chat. If they get kicked out of the, you know, Porkfest Facebook group, they'll have nothing. Yep. Madeline Albright, our new secretary of state, made a quite revealing remark in a recent

commencement address at Brandeis University. Because our country was founded on individual liberty, she claimed, and not on loyalty to family or clan, Americans are particularly suited for real global citizenship. Without these competing loyalties, Americans can be disinterested advocates for the entire human race. To Kumolam, anybody? Mm-hmm. There was a time.

This is a lady who claimed that killing 500,000 kids. by starving them to death in Iraq was worth it. It was worth it for her tribe. But when we want to talk about our tribe, well, that's not allowed. We can't even put a tribe together. I'm a Scott. If we put a tribe together, if we put a tribe together, there's Rico laws. Yeah, I'm a Scots, Irish redneck.

I literally can't advocate for my tribe because the last time we tried it, they literally named it, you know, like the KKK act after it. Like, wait, this is just, this is just, you know, this is just Celtic self-expression. What's your problem? The KKK is just, just us as a people advocating for our own interests. Why do you object to that, Madeline Albright?

Right. So this is, this is, this is a Jewish woman. Mahalachast. Mahalcost. Yeah, this is a Jewish woman claiming, right, that she gets to speak for the entire human race on behalf of Americans. Disgusting. There was a time, of course, when one was considered part of the lunatic fringe for suspecting that we were moving toward world government. Today, our rulers are amazingly frank.

Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, for example, recently remarked that the United States and Western Europe should enter into what he called and Articles of Confederation type relationship. Strobe Talbot looks forward to the day when nationhood, as we know it, will no longer exist, when we will all look to a single global authority. And who do you suppose will be staffing that? I can tell you who it will be, but you're going to call me anti-Semitic. Right. And right now, the EU and NATO, right, they're just Zog, supremac.

of Europe, like Thomas says. And, you know, if you haven't been listening to the stuff that Thomas puts out and the stuff that Thomas and people together, you're missing out, they're basically like graduate level college courses, you know, on a podcast. And I listen to all of them. But right, like until the nations of Europe can say, we no wish, no longer wish to be under the yoke of Zog, they're not free. We, and that's the only issue, you know. The Danish government did a study asking how much immigrants contributed to the economy and they found

it was like to the negative in hundreds of billions of Croker. There is no point. Why can the Danish government just say like okay well then these people want to go home? I guarantee you right? American troops would use

violence against the Danish government if the Danes sent all the Turks home. There is no point in multiplying examples. Let it suffice to say that recent trends towards global centralization provide ample reason for concern. Equally certain is that the global status do not particularly like places like the American South, and they detest all that she stands for. Like all centralizers, they prefer a subject population of atomized individuals with no particular attachments, people, in other words, who are content to eat Big Macs, vote in sham elections, and watch

Seinfeld. This really is dated. It would be naive to suppose, well, that's the only thing that really dates this is the Seinfeld reference. It would be naive to suppose that the South is not also cursed with this kind of apathy. But the growth of the Southern League and the continuing popularity of Southern partisan reminds us that many Southerners are prepared to defend their civilization. And a people that still possesses even a spark of resistance, a sense of history and tradition, and attachments of the locality, and a strong Christian faith, is a potential threat to the left's new order. Can I tell you about something that changed my life?

That was 1994, 1995 or something. It was in a small local bookstore in the Pacific Northwest. And I came across, I was already political conservative. it's in high school. It's kind of a nerd. So I spent only, you know, I'd work summers and basically all my money went to books. And I came across a copy of Southern Partisan Magazine. And I think the cover was, are you tired of the government?

We need to roll back the 60s. Not just the 1960s, but the 1860s. I remember looking at that cover going, huh? What? because of course I'd had the standard American education and but

Tom's completely correct here, right? That this is what has happened to us as a society is we can't even begin to discuss things in terms that were normal in 1840

and all time periods prior to that. One thing that's striking once you learn a little bit more is you realize that the man from say 8th century France and the man from

16th century New England or no 17th century New England could basically talk to each other could converse they were they were agrarian they were Christian they understood the world in the same basic terms and those same basic terms

extended from the fall of Rome all the way up until the middle 19th century. And until that point, there was a decisive break. And we, this liberalism that Tom Woods is talking about kind of took over. And so the vocabulary doesn't really match, right? But it is precisely that questioning of what, why can't I read the same books as my ancestors and come and understand them in the terms that they understood themselves

that has caused the problem. Why are they so afraid of me reading a book from 1550 or from 1,050 and understanding Thomas Aquinas as he understood himself? Why are they upset with me thinking the same way that someone in Alabama in 1850 understood himself? what's the problem with that? Those are my ancestors. Why shouldn't I understand

what my great, great, great grandfather thought of as himself when he put it on his diary, you know, what's wrong with that? Why do they hate it? And then that's a very, very revealing question. I think we know the answer, but, yeah. Indeed, Southerners have had too many strange philosophy shoved down their throats are ready to go quietly

in the face of this one. As former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan explained, speaking not of Southerners in particular, but of his supporters in general, we love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like New World Order, we release the safety caches on our revolvers. Make no mistake, the persecutors of the South hate her today for the same reasons they hated her in 1860. An 1868 article in the Pro-South Periodical, the land we love summed them up quite well. quote, her conservatism, her love of the Constitution, her attachment of the old usages of society, her devotion to principles, her faith and Bible truth. All these involved her in a long and bloody war with the radicalism which seeks to overthrow all that is venerable, respectable, and of good repute.

So the war between the states, far from a conflict over mere material interests, was for the South a struggle against an aesthetic individualism and an unreasonable. relenting rationalism in politics and religion in favor of a Christian understanding of authority, social order, and theology itself. The intelligent left knows this, and even the incurably stupid like Carol Mosley Braun, must at least sense it. For all their ignorant blather about slavery and civil rights, what truly enrages most liberals about the Confederate battle flag is its message of defiance. They see it in the remnants of the traditional society determined to resist cultural and political homogenization and refusing to be steamrolled by the forces of progress.

I've been a northerner for my entire 24 years, but when we reflect on what was really at stake in the late unpleasantness, we can join with Alexander Stevens in observing that the cause of the South is the cause of us all. Amen. I've been privileged by my work in Zidarsphere. to do a couple things. And one of those things that I've been able to do is to become correspondence with Dr. Michael Hill, who's been the chief of the lead of itself for the entirety of his existence coming up on 30 years now,

and I guess Tom wrote this back. But the thing that needs to be understood is that the people who are against us aren't against us because they have a minor disagreement. Or they have this slightly different interpretation of things. They're blowing up this minor discreet to a major fight. They are atheists, individualistics, race hustlers, communists, Zionist Jews, who seek to destroy not only you personally,

because you're listening to this program. And merely listening to this program is enough reason for them to want to see you destroy. but they seek to destroy it because they hate good things and God bless Tom Woods for having the courage and poor sight to see all this stuff 30 years ago 25 years ago when 30 years ago when he wrote this and God bless Michael Hill for continuing to bear the church of a free and independent south but that that same civil war that was brought to people

in places like Chickamauga and Gettysburg and Manassas and countless other places all across the south. That's brought to your doorstep right now by the same people and the same ideas. And they want you just as dead as the boys in gray who fell at all those different places. For the same reasons. They hate you. They hate you for going to church. They hate you for being married. They hate you for being straight.

They hate you for being white. They hate you for actually believing the Bible. They hate you for any number of reasons. And there's no getting along with them. There's no coming to some sort of reasonable motives of Vendi. There's no saying this is the Methodist side of the street, and that's the Presbyterian side of the street, like you see in small southern towns.

These people want to destroy everything. That is good, true, and beautiful. And that's why I do what I do. That's why I take the risk that I take. And anybody that wants to pretend that we can come kind of, you know, live with these people, I invite you to read this essay in its entirety and tell me where Tom was wrong. Because you can't. You know, I have this thing every once in a while you get on social media where if you're talking about I'll do,

or even about Adolf. You know, people will be like, they'll post a picture of Musslini hanging upside down or, you know, they'll tell you to follow your leader and blow your brains out like Adolf. Just understand. The people who defeated them, their forebearers are the people

who are in charge right now. The people who hung Mussolini upside down and killed them, those are the same, They're the same group of people, not literally because those people are dead, but they are the forebearers of the people who want to trans your kids, want to teach your kids about gay anal sex when they're in kindergarten. The same ones who basically started a war, basically got the world to fight against one country in the middle of Europe. They're the ones in charge right now. They are their ideological ancestors. And they view you, if you just want to be a dude who goes to church on Sundays

and lightly bans your Baptist friends about infat baptism while you go to your Presbyterian church or your Anglican Church in a small southern town, they view you as the same as the Nazis as confederates. They see you in a gray uniform. It doesn't matter which side you're fighting for, right? Said many times that all my heroes wore gray. They don't see a distinction between you and the Nazis or the Confederates or George Washington or El Cid or Charles Martel or Julius Caesar. They see you all as bad.

And I hate you. And they want you to die. and they want your children to be destroyed, and they want your church to be destroyed, and they want the beautiful buildings that your ancestors built or you maintain to be torn down. And they hate all good things. And they're proud of it.

And they, it's a crusade. They're on a crusade. It's a crusade for evil. And I would strongly use people to listen to Pete's readings of the last crusade. by Charles Carroll because it lays it out pretty starkly as well. For many, many years, Charles Spadio and I have bands back and forth

that we're at the moment now where we're basically spring 1936 in Spain. Everybody knows that something's coming. You just got to pick a side. So are you on the side of Order Liberty

let me quote here? You know, are you in the side of Fred Republicans, atheists, communists, bringing the side of order to liberty, regulated freedom. Which side are you on? I'm on my side, bro. I'm just on my side.

I'm an individual. I'll just fight this out. I'll just fight this out from my homestead. Good luck. Yeah. And those are the kind of people, the kind of people who say that. I don't want to wish bad.

upon anyone. But you're useless. You're less than useless because you know, you know, and you're just choosing to do everything you can to promote an ideology that this regime has been promoting since 1860. And it's just pathetic. It's just pathetic. Take it from somebody who used to do that. Take it from someone who used to promote it.

It's pathetic. And I repents of it every day. I'm embarrassed that ever promoted that. One of the reasons we're friends, Pete, and I don't mind, if you don't mind, like, the amount of money you've given up by not promoting this stuff is ridiculous. And I'm going to talk about my friend Pete here for just a second. understand, dear listener, that I am the most toxic thought criminal out there aside from a few buddies who co-host a podcast. I'm openly racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic.

You name the bad thing that I'm it. And because Pete saw that I was right about this, that, the other thing, when I reached out to him, he could have said, ew, don't touch me. You're gross. Oh, God. You're going to cost me a ton of money. No, he reached out his hand in friendship and said, oh, that's interesting.

You know, whatever you got to say. And then I told him a couple things I had to say. He said, that sounds right to me. And, you know, don't mind saying. I think that Pete and I are good friends now. Been a couple of years. But rather than protect his own income or his own prestige or his own, you know, standing within the community, Pete went after the truth.

at the cost of everything else. And that matters above all things. Go to the place, you know, freeman be on the wall slash donate, I think. Support slash support. Okay. I'm sorry. Right.

That's all right. I just said you, be a cash app privately, so I don't know. Right? But, okay, with all these forces, of all these evil people who want to use the centralized

safety to destroy everything. And you've just heard us talk about, again, someone I admire very, very much, Tom Woods, who has been a hero of mine for 20 years, draw the battle lines. When Pete could have pretended to be neutral

as so many people do, and ranked in not tens of thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe even millions of dollars. He said, nope, I'm going to choose the right side. And that cost him a lot of money and a lot of friends and a lot of other things. And he stood for you between your children and the people who want to turn them into homosexual trannies and wheelchairs who want them to be atheist, communist, red Republicans, jacobins.

And I think that you should do as I've done and support. Pete for that. Support the people that don't hate your children. Support the people that don't hate the possibility of you having children. I appreciate that. I mean, I appreciate that. It's just, you know, I'm not one of those people who can lie. I can't live a lie.

I've never been able to live a lie. So, you know, once I learn something and once I'm presented with more information, I changed my mind, you know, I have to change my mind and I have to talk about it. I have a platform. You know, I have, for better or worse, I have a platform that people listen to. And, you know, when I saw that, you know, it's nice to have hobbies. You know, one of my hobbies is become pipes at the OGC conference. Someone has become a good friend now.

Give me like 15 pipes. He's like, here I used to work at a pipe shop. He's like, and now I'm like just in heaven. trying all these different pipes and everything like that. Oh, yeah. It's awesome. It's a great hobby. I love to smoke pipes.

But it's a hobby. And it's not going to change the world. It's relaxing. Nicotine is proof that God loves this and wants us to be happy. Absolutely. But libertarianism is a hobby. That's all it is. It's not going to manifest itself.

it's no different than being really into RC cars or way you be for you know putting the chips in bottles it's a harm I mean yeah well it's not harm it's it could be harmful but the it's just it's a way to hang out with people yeah it's like Comic Con if you're like really into comic books or you I mean I know Comic-Con has expanded, weights, movies, TV show, everything like that. You know, if you're into that kind of stuff, and you go there and be around like-minded people, but stop pretending you're going to change the world.

Stop pretending you're, I mean, stop pretending you've got to change the world and go change your own life first. Well, one of the reasons I stopped being libertarian is I saw that, you know, it was 2007 and 2008, I can't remember when I stumbled on moldbug, but it was around that time. And I had read this Tom article is that I saw that there was no way for me to mandate everyone

understand liberty the same way I did without using force. And so libertarianism was pointless. And without the. ideas that are shown in this article, and I strongly, strongly urge everyone to, you know, just read it without our commentary and see how pressing it was. Tom Woods is a genius, and I don't, you know, that terms overused in our time. But I legitimately believe Tom Woods is a genius. He sees things that others do not see, and he shows people things that they otherwise would not have seen. But this article

opened my eyes to the fact that it's those intermediate institutions that are the most important things in our lives. These are circles of friends. It's our churches. It's our neighborhoods. It's our civic associations. It's our small governments. Like if you want the government to be small, you know, your city council seat costs $10,000.

Ten guys can come up with $10,000. You just go without lot of age for a couple years and you came up with $1,000 to make sure that you're city council seat isn't run by a communist. It's just a house race, a house primary race, like Jamal Baumann and a Latimer,

I think in New York City, where APEC put a thumb on the scale pretty hard. It costs tens of millions of dollars. Nothing you can do is going to change that as a normal human being. But you can act in that local sphere. You can support the church. and the Rotary Club and the Bowling League and all these intermediate institutions that stand between you and the ever hungry maw of the communist Leviathan. And if you don't understand that it's more important that your local municipality be able to pass a law that says no pornographic billboards than it is for the,

individual right of some weirdo who own strip clubs to be able to want to promote his billboards, then I'm sorry, you just lost the plot. You're not capable of being free. Simple as. Simple as that. Let's get out of here. It's getting a little late for me. I know it's still a little

little bit. Yeah. Still may be a little early for you. Just a couple of things real quick. Sure. Thank you. much for entertaining this particular whim of mine, Pete. I appreciate it very much.

That's a great article. It's a great article. And knowing Tom, you know, knowing Tom and reading this, as like, I mean, as soon as I read it, I'm like, yeah, that's Tom. Yeah, it's great. But again, I want to reiterate. Like, Tom Woods

is a hero of both personally for me and just generally. Read this without our commentary. I'm sure there'll be a link in the description. Read it twice. And finally, one thing Tom got wrong. And understand that our enemies, Madeline Albright's, the Bill Clinton's, the George Jeff Bushes, the Karl Rove's, whoever you want to name, they aren't just minorly disagreeing with you. This isn't a dispute about a 17% tax rate versus 27% tax rate.

These people want you to die. They want to tear down your churches. They want your children to be killed in a useless war, and the children survive at useless war. They want to turn trans. And they want to import tens of millions of foreigners to destroy your patrimony. They want to tear down every statute that's ever been erected.

They want to rename every street or every park. And they don't do it because, oh, they have a discreet. They do it because they're evil. They're positively on team Satan. And every time you go to battle with these folks, keep that in the back of your mind. Like, these folks aren't just... Roberta Kaplan just isn't somebody that...

Well, I might have a minor disagreement. No, she's on team Satan. She hates everything good, no. And then go... proceed accordingly, you know, with that knowledge. Cato with David Bowaz, right? Why are all these handsome, slim young men with clean-shaven faces working at Cato? Well, yeah.

But, I mean, it's individual liberty. Freedom and, you know, the freedom to escape responsibility and, you know, make the world the worst place for everyone else. but as long as you're doing okay, as long as you're having your fun, then, you know, what I do shouldn't affect you. Well, it does.

It does, and it has to stop. And it's going to stop one way or another. That's why I don't think people understand it. It's going to stop. The only question is, is are you going to like the way it stops? Because, yep, when things,

historically, when things like, When things get like this, the way they're stopped, well, your precious individual liberties, you're going to mean shit when that happens. And no one's going to care. No one's going to care. I'm going to die a moderate. Yeah. All right. As always, I will link to your telegram chat and everything.

and yeah, until I guess we'll talk on the next thought of crimson, I think you so much for having me. I appreciate you very much. And, you know, if you're listening, like don't skip anything Pete's producing because it's all gold, whether it's the readings or the individual shows or specials or whatever Pete's doing, please, both support me materially, but also just listen. because you've been lied to by almost everyone for your entire life. And Pete Kunun is that rarest of things.

Diogenes put it this way over 2,000 years ago. He was trying to find an honest man. And I'm very proud that Pete's my friend because Pete is that honest man. So listen to everything he says. not because he's a genius or because he's the perfect paragon of virtue or anything of that, but because Pete is an honest man. And he will bring you people that tell you the truth as best they know how. Whether that's me or Thomas 777 or Charles Padil or Jose Nino or whoever else Tom has on a guest or Pete has on as a guest.

I guarantee you Pete has never had on a guest that will lie to you And if I thought I'm lying, I would call them out And that's the most precious thing you can have So please, you know, support Pete But also listen to what he has to say Because he's doing his best to tell you the truth And there are very, very, very few people

In the world today who are trying to do that You know, I give Pete money not because he's my friend enough, but because he's honest man. And this matters to me very, very much. I risked everything to do what I do. And I'm here on this show because

Pete Canones is an honest man. So please give it a listen. Throw Pete some support. If everyone will listen to this give Pete five bucks a month, it would make all the difference in the world. I appreciate that. Thank you.

And until the next time, Take care of yourself, all right? My best to you and your family. Thank you, man. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. Dark Enlightenment returns. Seems like I talked to you a couple weeks ago, and I don't know if something happened. What's going on, man?

Yeah, the optics fairies got to it. Well, for good reason. Yeah. For a reason that we can excuse. Yeah, well, no, that's okay. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't congenial capable of keeping my mouth shut. So I suppose that's good for you folks that are out there that are entertained. But sometimes it's not a prudent thing.

But I'm doing all right. And the intervening time has given me some time to reflect. It's not quite in the news so much right now. But I know that there are a lot of pro-lifers out there who are sour on Trump. And where I live, it doesn't matter. He's going to win by 60, 70% no matter what. So I am free to vote third party and I'll find, you know, if the Constitution Party or American Freedom Party are on the ballot,

I'll vote for them. And the thing that people need to understand is this is all about power. And you can't build a pro-life culture. where abortion isn't a thing until you're willing to use power to make it happen. And that was, I sense, you know, if you want me to dial down, you know, our previous discussion, pro-lifers, I love you, I'm one of you. I've done the whole stand in front of the abortion clinic for, with the rosary for, you know, hours on end in the snow and in this, in springtime, and I participated in 40 days for life in multiple states.

I was from the pro-life club in college. you know, I've done the bit. I know people that, you know, were part of Operation Rescue. I wasn't quite alone enough myself, but I know people that were, you know, veterans of it. I have people that lost everything. And until you're willing to use power to make it happen so that pro-life becomes policy, you're going to lose. This is not, you know, Operation Rescue's great error was in thinking that, um, that you were,

This was a civil rights movement. You can link arms and stand in front of the abortion clinics and seeing we shall overcome and justice will fall like rain and all the babies will be saved. And that's just not the truth. The truth is the Jews wanted the civil rights movement, so they got it. And the Jews want abortion, so they got it. You know, I have my differences with the Michael Jones. But when he says that, you know, this is all about, you know, a fundamental Jewish value of abortion, he's right. the people that brought us abortion,

the people that brought us contraception, the people that brought us pornography, are all Jewish. So when you say, it's not a part of our Judeo-Christian values to have abortion in this country. It's like, hold on.

These are, these are acronyms. They cannot be the same thing. Judeo-Christian is a fake, made-up term that doesn't really mean anything. It's a post-war consensus term. You're not going to find that before the Second World War. Yeah,

what it is, is a Nuremberg regime approved term to denote that your Christianity is so toothless that you'll accept the constraints put on you by the Nuremberg regime. That's what it means. Yeah, I was having conversations with a conversation with my wife and a friend today. And I basically, I've gotten so frustrated with Christianity in general. I've like, you know, you're driving me away from this. And there's a reason why there have been long stretches in my life that I've stopped going to church. Because I can't stand to be around.

Because we're supposed to come together as the body of Christ. And I don't want to be with these people. These people want to be martyrs and they want to die and they want their kids to die. They want their kids to be raped. They want their kids to be, you know, destroyed and cut up in the streets, and they somehow think that that's something good. You know, you look at the way Christians are reacting to, like, Springfield, Ohio or Albertville, Alabama. And, you know, you would think that, yeah, I mean, you know, what I think when I see that is,

I think of a book that I read on my show earlier this year called Camp of the Saints. Mm-hmm. and these are not, these are people who are not compatible. You know, I've said this before. As much as we, you know, as much as we say, you know, Mexicans have to go back, you can talk to a Mexican. You can, you can tell a Mexican turn the music down and they'll listen to you. Because there's something somewhat of the same, somewhat of a, of a sliver of a cultural, Yeah, they're 60%

Spaniards, so there's enough there that you can be like, hey. But you don't know, unless you've lived around Haitians, you don't know what the hell's going on here. And I lived in South Florida for 19 fucking years, and they're everywhere. And you don't go near these people. Right. Well, and what do the Dominicans think?

Oh, they shoot on site. Right. The only reason there's the only reason there's anyone on Haiti left at all is the Dominicans know that if they just went full of ham and retook their entire island and drove the Haitians into the sea that the U.S. Marines would show up and kill them.

And the Dominican Republic's like chief act support is baseball players. This is not, you know, I mean, right? This is not a, you know, particularly, what did I call them on thought of Congress? into a lot of white supremacists. That these are not people that are, you know, white. But there are dead chickens that have been sacrificed to Satan all around highly of Florida. Don't go to.

Well, that's even another group. That's the Cubans that are into censoria. Right. So, I mean, in South Florida really is a cursed place. I was in South Florida last, not this past week, but the previous week. It's cursed. Yeah. You get in there.

and you and you want to get out as soon as possible. Well, because they've got demons everywhere. And this is the, this is the, the error that pro-lifers make. I suppose we should, rather than, you know, we're 20 minutes into the call here, but we're specifically trying to talk about the abortion pro-life, anti-abortion pro-life movement in the context of the current political thing. And they're just wrong about everything. if their idea of every human being is equal and that everyone is, you know, if they, if they just get baptized, they'll all be upper middle class white Christians, is not true.

There are such things as generational spirits and that there is such a thing as being too dumb to grasp the creed. And Haitians will tell you they're Catholic on Sunday morning and go to Mass, and then they'll go home. and sacrifice the chicken or your cat to a demon. And so the people that want to pretend, oh, these people are Catholics, they're revitalizing our churches. But they're not. They're there to grift off you.

They're there to steal. There's no way the pro-life movement can get anywhere when you're more concerned with building a society where every baby is valued. And that means that you work really, really, really hard to help people, to help your enemies. And you don't do anything for your friends, which is what the pro-life movement has done for the last 30 years.

Oh, we've got to help all these single moms. Why? Are they the sort of people that go to church and are conservative? or are they going to be, you know, uh, on the public fisc their entire lives? Are they going to be public charges their entire lives? Are they going to stop behaving in such way as to

be a drain on the public fisc and lower the tone of society? No. Well, the abortion movement is racist. Mara Ria saying you were a racist. Well, yeah. She was. Was she wrong? That's the question you have to ask yourself.

pro-life movement Donald Trump is a very flawed man there's a lot about him I don't like and I probably won't vote for but if you think that Kamala Harris who's probably had multiple abortions

let's be honest isn't going to throw all of you in jail David Deliotton the guy who proved that they're selling baby parts in California Kamala Harris was AG when he was hemmed up she tried to throw him in jail.

You think that, you know, her, the people who are saying, Kamala is a brat, who do you think that's aimed at? Childless millennials, women, of which there's an extremely large contingent who are fanatics, demonically fanatical pro-abortion people. You think empowering them is going to be good? You know, the bike. Biden regime went to pro-lifers' houses with guns and woke people up at, you know, four in the morning, raiding their house. Do you not remember that? Am I the only one that remembers that?

You know, the safe access to clinics acts or whatever it was, where one gentleman, the pro-life activist of, you know, eight kids or whatever, some dude who, you know, assaulted his son, so he pushed him out of the way. And all of a sudden, he's violating the safe act. So we got to show up at his house and the wee morning hours with, you know, eight FBI agents with guns. Scarrys kids have to death. Drag him off to jail. Put him through a trial.

I think he got acquitted, thank God. But, and when you win, you know, Donald Trump gave us the one thing that we needed. that is the federal Leviathan is no longer involved in abortion. Thank God. So now there's 50 different states that can all have their own policies. And the amount of pressure you would need to fix things in California or Illinois or whatever is so immense that it's never going to happen. But you can make Mississippi and Alabama and Idaho pro-life. So do that.

And the fact that the pro-life movement didn't have 50. state operations ready to go with funding and people is an indictment of the parole life movement. You got what she wanted for 50 years. You've been saying Roe v. Wade has to go. Well, it went. It was a bad law. It was stupid. It was poorly written. It was, it engendered all kinds of ridiculousness from the federal bench. I mean, any of you actually read Planned Parenthood would be Casey? It's, it's, you know, emanations and put numbers. It's It's woo talk fit for like a horoscope reading. It was issued from the federal bench.

So we got what we wanted. And then you proceeded to rack up L after L after L because you refuse to deal with the reality of Americans aren't very philosophically inclined. And most people don't think very hard. So they're kind of icked out by like the idea of a six-month pregnant woman getting an abortion. but a three-month woman getting three months pregnant woman getting an abortion is like, well, you know, how can you tell? And instead of saying, okay, well, we'll get a, you know, 12-week ban in place across every state and then work on everything else.

We'll work on changing the culture so that people can get married and have kids and have jobs. I can tell you where people aren't going to have kids, where people are going to have more abortions. Silicon, Alabama, and Springfield, Ohio. Because they're going to look at their car insurance bill that went up by 300%. And they're going to go, I can't afford anything. Most people aren't ideologically Christian. They don't show up to church every Sunday no matter what. They're kind of culturally Christian and a little bit indifferent.

And if you want them to live in such a ways so that they don't do things like murder babies, you're going to have to provide them with some incentives to actually get themselves back to church and not destroy their society. you have to get some clerics out there that say, you know what, this is a white country and white people deserve to have a country of their own. And having a constant stream of racial strangers and foreigners who aren't assimilated to our Republican way of life, small our Republican way of life, is a net drain on us and we should not have to pay for it.

But no. You know, my ancestors have been here 300 years and I'm supposed to just be like, oh, okay. Someone who just got off the boat from Africa is just as much as America. is just as much as American as me. Nonsense. The one thing that I did, I did find out today is that, yeah, you know who, you know who is having a baby boom? Every Haitian woman in Springfield, Ohio. Yep.

Yeah. So 20,000 becomes, you know, 30,000 and 40,000 really quick. and yeah, what do you do? What do you do? You love your, you love your neighbor. You forgive your enemies. Yeah, there is such a thing, you know, Augustine wrote about just war theory.

And Augustine believed that the reason to go to war was to win peace. I mean, is Springfield, Ohio? in peace at peace right now? No. No. And, you know, God forgive me for this, but the guy who,

you know, whose son guide, who I wish my kind of son had been killed by a six-year-old white man, well, wearing a sports cap of, you know, of a team. He and his wife,

he and his wife are teachers at the local school. Yep. Yeah. Okay, well, yeah, he might want that. but in my opinion he's too fat and any man that would wear a baseball cap inside of a team of a basketball American ball you know after your son had been killed by one like you're not salvageable you don't get to you might not care about your kid dying I care about my kids

dying and I care about the people I care about dying so you don't get to make that assessment for me I care about little old ladies And in fact, I'm going to stay here that I care more about the kids in the community than you do. Not often I can say that. But I for 100% care more about the kids in Springfield, Ohio, that went to his son's elementary school than he does. Because he doesn't want them to be safe. And I do. the when you think about the abortion thing it's the whole abortion history in this country

especially since row you you're you're not taking into account the fact that well it took the courts to overturn it what 50 years later when if every christian in this country would have said no. I mean, I'm an elitist. I'm an elite theorist. But I understand what happens when an overwhelming majority of the population says no and says no continuously. I mean, I know for a fact I've seen in my life church-going people who go every Sunday as soon as their daughter got knocked up, taking them to the abortion clinic. Of course.

I've seen, yeah, this is not me making this up. I can give you the names, but I'm not going to because, you know, why would I do that? And plus, I don't want to get sued just for, because everything's so litigious. The problem is you have to deal with reality as it is, right? To me, the only reason I'm still a Christian is that I believe that Jesus is the God of the copybook things. well as everything else that he is. And when he said, I'm the way, the truth in life,

he meant everything that's true is somehow contained in him. Because if we can't be honest about the fact that, I don't know, 50% approximately, what is it, 46% of black women have herpes simplex say, or whatever the sexually transmitted one is. Yeah, it's, it's right at 50%. I mean, it's insane. Right. So you can't make that population.

sexually continent enough to not need abortion or starving to death. Like even, you know, in Europe, at the height of Christendom, women left their babies exposed because they were starving. That's one of the things that Monasterius did is, you know, take in foundlings and they'd adopt them and they'd become brother so-and-so who didn't have, who never got married and never had kids, but was none of the less allowed to live. You know, single mothers in Christendom would give the baby up, the baby to be born, you know,

weaned, live in a monastery, become a brother so-and-so, and the mother would take vows and become a nun. Right? And so people would be, and a lot of the time, you know, babies starve to death. And this is something that's awful, and I don't like it,

but that's nevertheless what happened. and people would have kids and those kids would die. But the church's teaching on abortion doesn't, like all of a sudden make people, you know, snap, oh, we teach this. And all of a sudden people, you know, like 15-year-old kids aren't going to get horny. Because the church says, no, that's not what you have to deal with the reality. right you know with AI a thing is there going to be a single job available

for anyone with an IQ below I don't know 120 110 where is the cutoff well yeah I mean even the higher IQ libtards what are they going to do what percentage of the New York Times

is already written by ChapchipT half a third I mean you know why would they why would they even pay somebody to do slop like that, put in a couple of key words. The people who programmed it are already shitlibs. So, you know, it's just going to spit out shitlovery.

Yeah. So if the pro-life movement is going to get serious. And this is advice from two guys. You're pretty sympathetic to the pro-life movement. It's one of the three things we've won on in my lifetime, the other two being homeschooling and concealed carry rights. Those are the things that we acted like leftists on. Pete recently reissued both, like the complete series of our talk at Race War

and High School of the book. And I keep talking about this book because this book blew my mind and it's changed my life in the two years since that, you know, since I came on to talk about this. But the leftist always, always, always, got something that they wanted and then came back for another bite at the apple over and over and over again until they got what they wanted. So the pro-life movement, rather than saying, all right, we're going to get a 12-week ban in every state, you know, a state-by-state basis.

We're going to work really hard for that. And then we're going to work on, you know, maybe enforcing a, all doctors have to have, uh, admitted to privileges at a local hospital, you know, so to make sure that the doctors, you know,

employed by, employed by plan parenthood are actually doctors. So, you know, there's things you could do to, to move the ball forward. Football season started, so I can't help but use the metaphors, right?

But no, like, unless we can get a touchdown, immediately, we don't want to play. Well, while you're sitting there and arguing about, what's the best play, you don't get to trick play to get, and then we'll fool everybody, or then we'll go to, no, your opponents work for Satan, and they're perfectly okay with three yards in a cloud or dust every day, every play. They'll import tens of millions of welfare-dependent

people who might be against abortion for cultural reasons, but they don't care about, they don't actually care enough to, you know, vote for somebody else on religious grounds because they get free stuff. And to them, the free stuff is more important than abortion. So basically, every non-white population in America thinks their free stuff is more important than dead babies. Period. Sometimes it's 70% of them think that. Sometimes it's

90% think that. Sometimes it's 60%. But the vast majority of non-white people think their free shit is more important than dead babies. So unless you're against immigration, period, full stop. And for

massive, massive repatriation, you're never getting rid of abortion. You have a highly dependent population that is sexually incontinent and can't make a living in America on their own because they lack the requisite IQ and ability to plan for the future. You might think I'm a racist for saying that, but those are just the facts.

So if you want to build a pro-life America, you're going to have to make America white again. You'd have to make America fiscally consistent. conservative again. You're going to have to do things and use power to actually reward your friends and punish your enemies. When 17-year-old girls and 17-year-old boys do what 17-year-old children do, in 1957, there were jobs for that. You could be like, well, son, looks like you're getting married and getting a job, and he got married and he got a job. And I might have gotten divorced a few years later or whatever.

but a lot of those folks actually just stayed married. But there's nothing to do for that 17-year-old kid to do right now. Can you name a place where a 17-year-old kid get a job? I mean, you'd think maybe in the metal industry, but, you know, that kid just got replaced by a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, you're not going to get a 17-year-old white kid. I mean, that was, and this has been going on for a while because boomers won't retire. They, you know, and I'm really trying hard not to shit on boomers much anymore.

But, you know, when you go and take jobs because it's like, oh, I need to keep working and you take the jobs that a 17-year-old would normally take, and you're five times larger than any generation that's ever lived, well, teenagers aren't even going to be able to get jobs anymore because you're taking them all. Well, housing costs too much when I need a job. Why does housing cost too much? You only had two kids. Oh, right. The endless wave upon wave upon wave of immigration that have forced people further and further and further out and housing prices up and up and up and up. You know, the number one thing that keeps young people from having kids today is Eusuria's student loan debt and housing prices. You want to be really pro-life?

Take Harvard's endowment. Pay off white kids' student loans with it. And if they have a kid, give them 25, you know, give them 25. thousand dollars and you watch those you know Zoom or gals just have eight kids a piece it's not complicated

we've set up all the incentives to be wrong and the pro-life movement believes in the Nuremberg regime and the Nuremberg regime exists to take people who are part of the pro-life movement and politically disenfranchise them till they're dead that's what the point of the Nurembergene regime is

until you understand that and accept that and deal with that you're going to lose every single time. You can't make New York pro-life. You can't make California pro-life. Pretty soon you won't even be able to prove you pro-life in Texas, right? Because of the invasion. What are you concrete going to do if you really believe that it's a sacrifice to Moloch

and it's the most evil thing that anyone's ever done? I can make a pretty good case for that. What are you going to do in concrete steps that actually helps that stop? And I'm 100% pro-lifist. I'm an abolitionist. I'm one of those guys. I've done my time in front of the clinic. Golden signs protesting and saying the rosary.

But I recognize that in order to stop this, I have to have power to do it. People who agree with me and my friends need to be in a position where they can actually make a difference. And Lila Rose pays herself a very generous salary off of, you know, live action. Look at their tax forms, right? They're pulling $2 million and all about $150,000 goes towards salaries. So a lot of these pro-life national organizations raise money to raise money to raise money to raise money. They don't really do anything. They're pretty nice grifts as you get it.

But Lila Rose. It's like politics. It's just another jobs program. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a jobs program for people. Yeah. Showbiz for ugly people. as people say.

But you can't have a bunch of women who are against guns and care really badly by poor George Floyd in charge of a poor life movement. I'm sorry, the world is a better place without George Floyd in it. That doesn't make me happy to say. I'm not like dancing on his grave or anything like that. But if you don't think that the world is objectively a better place

without George Floyd or Michael Brown or Tamir Rice or what's your name from Kentucky you know then you're just wrong I can't remember right I mean there's so many right

if you can't accept that these people's interests are 100% against yours and you know you and I bandied in back and forth in private chats right that one graph by alternative hypothesis, right?

The lifetime negative impact of black people is like negative $850,000 per, like that's how much they take out of the system. Right. And Hispanics is like $650 or whatever and white people is like positive $150,000. I can't remember over the lifetime. You can't build a pro-life society that has spare resources to take care of people and offer, you know, poor single moms who are 16. or 14 a chance to have their baby and get on with their life in a society that's overrun

with people who aren't productive and vote for communism. What are you going to do? I'm really mad at Donald Trump because he's not as pro-life as I want him to be. He got you the one thing that actually gives you a W in the last 50 years. I mean, were you been to the march for life? Washington, D.C. is not like a cold northern city, but we could get pretty miserable. in January. Were you just happier, like going and freezing in the rain and slushy snow of Washington, D.C.

every January 20th? Happy to be a beautiful loser because then you were doing something. You were going to the March for Life. Okay, well, now that you've got it, what are you going to do? Well, we wanted to go to the March for Life. It's not a party. It's a political movement. You're trying to get something out of it.

What are you going to do? you know, as a Catholic, it deserves me, but white evangelicals are the only reason we aren't living in a communist dystopia right now. So how about we live, build a society where white evangelicals hold political power, and then everyone else gets to live in a decent place? Well, I mean, I know white evangelicals that talk about that, and as soon as they talk about it, other white evangelicals come after them and, um, you know, a huge, use them of, well, basically just regurgitate every Nuremberg regime talking point to them, and every pejorative that has been against it in the last 80 years.

Yeah, of course. And that's because these people, their regime evangelicals is our friends at the Contramundum talk about. David French basically apostatized because he adopted. adopted a black girl. And he got roasted on Twitter for it of like, bro, what are you doing?

This is a status symbol for you. You thought you'd be president because you went to Iraq as a lawyer and awarded yourself a bronze star. And you thought you were going to, you know, get to be senator or something. And it didn't work out for you. And you got made fun of viciously on Twitter.

Rightfully so. And so now he's like writing from your time and how everyone that he used to be is like a horrible person. It's like, well, maybe so, David. But maybe they just understand the way the world actually works better than you do. It's ridiculous to think that a population that is already addicted, to drugs and pornography and isn't productive is just going to turn around

and see the light on the evils of abortion on their own. Like, oh, you know, I was totally, you know, smoking a J on my way to my, you know, waged, low-wage job. But then I saw a sign that said abortion equals murder, and I totally changed my mind.

It doesn't work like that. I mean, it is. What are you going to do with that person to make them see the light? You can remove them from power. You could say, uh, yeah, this whole democracy thing not really working. Uh, you can't talk now. Or are you going to just continue to let that person live their life and when they screw up, you know, like, and then they have their baby and they do a bad job as a parent,

you're going to go to the rescue center and give them all kinds of stuff and help them, and then they're going to do it again, and again, and again. And I'm not against, you know, pregnancy resource centers or anything like that. I've given time and money to both those sorts of organizations. But you have to deal with the real world. you have to be honest about what's actually happening. And if you're not capable of doing that, then politics isn't your game. I'm sorry.

Well, we have, everyone just acts like they're completely defeated, like that there's nothing that they can do. And then they're like, you know, they're always looking to somebody else. It's like you say, well, you know, you really have to, you really have to, um, get together with people, you know, people of like mind and, you know, well, what are you doing? Well, about fuck you. That's what I'm doing.

That's my kite. Like maybe, maybe I don't talk about that publicly. Yeah. You know, you want to, you want to find out, you want to talk. Let's get face to face. Leave our phones. You know, leave our phones somewhere and go for a walk. Yeah.

But until then, fuck you. Right. You know, it's like, I mean, and we're not talking about like violence, like raising up, you know, raising up militias or anything like that. We're just talking about strategy. Why would you be, why would you be talking out loud about your strategy? The only reason you want somebody else to talk out loud about their strategy is because you're talking out loud about your strategy that will never work. And the only person who ever says, well, what are you doing? Are people who are doing things that are absolutely useless?

I don't care. I mean, I don't care. I don't care what my former libertarian friends are doing and everything. If they want my advice on something, they can ask. I have no problem helping anyone, anyone, as long as you're respectful, as long as there, no problem at all. We'll fucking bend over backwards to help you. And I can confirm that because Pete's done the same for me. Like, this is not. but, you know, for a lot of these pro-life people, and a lot of them are, you know, childless women in their 40s and 50s, who, you know, were raised right, and so they have this empathy for this sort of thing. But, sweetheart, ma'am, I love you. You're a wonderful person. It's really good of you to care for these babies. But until you can make the friend-enemy distinction of, like, Our enemies are not fit to wield power, and they're going to commit abortion. And you want to go jump on a grenade and save our enemies.

It's not going to work. It's just going to make more enemies. Okay? It pains me to say that. I genuinely feel bad. I really genuinely don't like it. But it is true that until you have a regime in power, that does not care what the, you know, does not care about the post-Gernberg consensus, right?

You're always going to lose because any time you try and do anything, stop the abortion Holocaust, you're using, you're playing on the enemy's field. They're going to beat you every single time. Because stopping abortion, oh, you must hate black people, you're racist. You're basically hit. Until you can break out of that frame and say, I mean, he had some good points, had some bad points. I wouldn't have invaded Greece.

Maybe he should have taken that six weeks. Instead of saving Mussolini, he should have driven from Moscow. But, you know, overall, he was a pretty effective guy. Until you can actually discuss the world as it actually is, you're going to lose. And if you're a pro-lifer in Ohio, and I think there was one. like nice sweet evangelical lady who was part of the pro-life Ohio movement who, you know, over this October 7th, right? Like the people who run pro-life Ohio, you know, were Jews and they got her fired.

If you're a pro-lifer in Ohio, what's happening in Springfield should horrify you. Not because little kids are getting killed or cats get eaten or whatever, but because it's entrenching demonic abortionists in power in Springfield for the next 50 years. you will lose in Springfield, Ohio for 50 years. If you don't get a handle on this and be honest about it. I can't show my face because the people who are listening to this who are hostile would destroy my life and starve my kids. If they're the sort of people that would destroy people's lives over a political disagreement,

what makes you think you can reason with them? You think another argument about, you know, when a baby's insult, matters to these people? It doesn't matter. Not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk in the world, but he debated some pro-abortion woman and went around on telegram and she's bringing up all these

super, super edge cases. What about, you know, the 10-year-old or the 5-year-old that got pregnant and this, did it do-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I hope, you know, what about these? And there was not a fact or, you know, Charlie Kirk said, and what about facts and logic, you know, and, you know, he got the better of her in debate, right? But this is not a woman who's reachable

with reason. You just have to take away her franchise, pat her on the head, and put her at the kids' table. Until you're willing to do that pro-life movement, you're going to lose. Until you want to say, look, ladies, if you want to vote, you've got to have at least two kids.

You know, who'd be in favor of that? Anne Coulter. Anne Coulter doesn't think women should vote. But if you want women to vote, you have to have two kids within marriage. You want public assistance. You got to be made. married. You want government

housing? You got to be married. Because right now all the people who think abortion is great. Treat you, you, pro-lifers. They treat the men in your life's wallet like a pizza

that's been given to them for free that they get to cut up. And they fight over what's in your wallet. And they take it from you. And you're expected to just hand you over your wallet every April 15th. or quarterly if you're self-employed. Oh, boy, that's a fun one, isn't it?

Pete, right in both sides of social security for yourself and you know you're not going to get any. Yeah, it's about the driest left that ever heard from you. Ah. So, right? If you really want to build a pro-life culture in the United States of America, you're going to have to get power and use it to boost the people that are pro-life.

You have to change the culture. You have to destroy the local public school because that's just a cat lady factory. You're going to have to get it so that you're going to have to get your clergyman to a point where they don't advocate civilizational suicide every Sunday in the public.

We need a new welcome our new brothers and sisters from Congo or Guatemala or Haiti. You're going to have to do something that requires both the long game and pragmatic realism about where we're actually at. You're going to have to get rid of every Jew in any position of any kind of power whatsoever. You're going to have to stop posting Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro, or Nat Hentoff, or any of these people,

as like pro-lifers that you agree with. They don't. Abortion, as E. Michael Jones has pointed out, is a fundamental Jewish value. Because Talmudic Judaism is just Satanism. That's all it is. And anybody that wants to sit here, well,

what about, no, they're not your friends. You're going to have to listen to people like Andrew Torba and Andrew Isker. And Stephen Wolfe and Courtney Mahler and, you know, real, solid Christians who are dealing with the world as it actually is.

Or you're going to lose. It pains me to be as, brutal about this sort of thing as I am, but I got 20 years of doing this and or more, actually, and when you constantly cede the ground, seed the frame to the enemy and allow the enemy to set the rules, you lose. That's the truth. When, you know, all pro-life bills will say, well, you know, abortion was illegal in all 13 colonies and was illegal in the United States, you know, everywhere up until such a time.

You know who was in charge then? white Christians. That's who was in charge. That's who wrote those laws. Those are those people who filled that society. You're not going to get those pro-life laws back until you make those people in charge again. Maybe not the majority population,

or the majority population, but they have to be the ones in power. You know, and you keep saying that, you know, you have to want power. That doesn't mean that you have to run for office. That just means that you have to be, you may have to organize to have the right people.

run for office, to have your friends run for office. You know, I've said recently that I would, you know, I want to have like my friends in the, you know, in the Trump administration, and it's not because we agree on everything politically. It's because we're friends. I'll give me the perfect example. We share values. I'll give me a perfect example. If one of our guys in your county is the county health inspector or start to the county public health department.

And every second Tuesday of the month, they go by the local abortion clinic and they inspect the place top to bottom. How long do you think that place is going to remain open when they get a $300 fine for the slightest, you know, a pen being out of place for the wrong spot? Hmm? If one of our guys is in charge at the county health department and, oh, hey, look at that. We're not vaccing everybody in this county. It's not a public health matter. The cold is not an urgent public health matter. But I'll tell you what isn't there's a public health matter.

Making sure everybody who's at this clinic is properly licensed. Oh, you're not properly licensed? Dr. Abortion is so-and-so? Oh, well, you don't have admitting privileges to the local hospital? I'm sorry, you can't practice here. Kermit Gossnell is a pretty awful horror story for those of you who might remember he kept literally kept babies in pieces

in jars and stuff was a black doctor in Philadelphia not qualified remotely to be a physician but that's all of these people I mean he was in a particularly egregious case

but do you think like real good competent physicians like sign up to murder babies who does that evil people do that wicked people do that.

Incompetent people do that. You're not going to get, you know, cream of the crop from Harvard Medical School or John Hopkins or any place like that to be abortionists. Just make sure that they're, you know, inspected on a regular basis. Make sure that all the nurses have their

license requirements met. Make sure that the people who actually have children can support them. Make sure the economy is structured so that, you know, mom can stay home and dads can go to work. Make it so that housing doesn't cost 10 times what it did. You know, Peter and I have talked about housing a lot. Maybe if people lived in coherent neighborhoods again and their neighbors were people that they went to church with and were of a similar ethnic background and they'd known each other

for all their lives, maybe they could, you know, mom could go to work. for a couple, and the kids could go next door to people that were basically family. And they wouldn't need to have, you know, go to daycare with people that they don't know. So pro-life is a totality thing. It's not just a, oh, we're just against abortion. You have to have affordable family formation. You have to have housing that works for families. You have to have jobs in an economy that works for families.

You have to have food that families can afford. I guarantee you that there are families that are desperate that have gotten abortions in the last two years because of food prices. Think about that. In America, people have been driven to have murder babies because food got so expensive. I just spent $200 on groceries today. I was late to this recording. For Suffet,

should have cost me $80 three years ago. You think that's not a pro-life issue? How is having more people come here who are completely dependent on taxpayer funds? Drive up rents because they're getting thousands of dollars from the government. Get free food. Get free health care. Don't have to have car insurance.

Don't get their houses, inspected so that there's only, you know, one person per bedroom, but there's 20 people living in a three-bedroom house. How can a normal person compete with that? How much money would you have in your pocket, Pete? If I paid your rent, your grocery bill, your medical costs, and for your transportation. Life would be good. That's for sure.

I mean, would you have, you'd have no major expenses left. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to build a pro-life regime in America, you're going to have to do things like, I don't know, pay for the young white people of America, the young white people of Ohio, of Alabama, of wherever, give them that largesse instead of foreigners who hate you

and will always, always, always vote against your interests. You know, the Trump campaign is here, oh, we're going to get a majority of black males. absolutely not. You might get more. But you're not going to get the majority. Because the entire Democratic Party since 1965 or whatever

since the 60s has been based off of giving them free stuff. Well, they shouldn't want free stuff. If you read Thomas Sowell, please. Most black people in the inner city are illiterates. They don't care what Thomas Sowell has to say. They don't care what Walter Williams. has to say.

Well, well, if you listen to Alan Keyes' natural law argument against Barack Obama about gay marriage, he totally destroys him. Well, yeah, he did. It was embarrassing. But you think that the black people of Chicago even know who Alan Keyes is or that they're capable of listening to an argument between two professors? They don't care. They're going to have to have pro-life policies imposed on them.

They're on, what, generation four, five of total welfare deputies? They've never lived outside of government housing. They've never been to a doctor that they paid for. They've never bought their own groceries. And you're going to make this person into an independent yeoman Republican who's pro-life overnight by making an argument? Are you crazy? I understand that abortion is a horrifying subject and it's awful to think about

and it's fissually off-putting. I understand all of that. But emotion goes to the left. Because you can make the argument. What about the poor babies? But they can also always make an argument. What about the poor child who's been, you know, is eight years old and was raped by your father and is pregnant with triplets and doesn't speak English from Guatemala.

And she came here from a boat from Africa. Like, they can always outdo you in that department. the left is based off emotion, you're always going to lose. And I keep repeating this because I want, listeners to this program probably know the score already. But when you're arguing with pro-life people in your life, keep hammering this. You will always lose if you don't deal with reality. And that's all I'm asking you to do. As my friend Boisroy says, all I'm asking is that you engage with reality.

And the reality is a lesson until. You acknowledge that our society is structurally against, set up against the family, and in particular, against white people having families. And until you rectify that, you're going to lose. So there's things you could do government policy-wise to fix these. but you need to be in power first before you do it. And until you're willing to actually exercise that power, until you're willing to put your differences aside

and actually accomplish things, all you're doing is wasting your time and money. You know, there are multiple people. I have talked to you on different podcasts who should be both vastly higher paid than they are, but should be running institutions. And they're not because they are, we're foolish not to get on a podcast with me.

And I'm radioactive. Because I'm, you know, racist, fascist, homophob, etc., etc., etc. You want to be a pro-life? Put Keonotas in charge of Kato Institute. Then, you know, we'll still some real pro-life policies happen. Put, you know,

put Andrew Isker in a position to run a seminary. put people who actually understand the way the world works in positions of power and influence, you know, put James Edwards in charge of Southern Baptist Convention. Then you'll see some real change. Until you're willing to actually do it, all you're doing is wind. And if that's what you want to do, fine.

But you don't get to tell me what to do. And until you want to engage with you, reality, you're just talking. And those of us who actually want to accomplish something have a perfect right to tell you to be quiet. Yeah. I mean, the fact that more people aren't talking about how Springfield is basically a city that unless they just basically bring in bus after bus,

after bus, after bus, and take these people to, I mean, moving 20,000 people isn't easy, but you can do it if you want to. Unless you're willing to get them out of there, that city is basically now Port-au-Prince in the Middle East, in the Midwest. Yeah. I mean, that's it. That town is gone. That town is now a Haitian town.

And, you know, if you want to go down to South Florida and talk to, like, the Cubans and the blacks, the American blacks, you know what they, you know what both of those people have in common down there? Both of those groups have in common down there? They just like Haitians. They look at Haitians and they're like, what are they doing here? I mean, who allowed them to come in? And I don't want to make this all about one group, but it is. I mean, you're literally talking about the funniest thing that I saw this week, not funny, but Scott Adams. Scott Adams was upset because somebody contacted him and told him that the, you know, he's like,

why are you lying to me and telling me the average IQ in Haiti is 62? And he's like, and he does this Scott Adams thing. He goes, so I went to debunk them. And I said, there's no way that they have an IQ of 70. That it has to be, it has to be somewhere, you know, in a higher range. And he goes, and I found out that, or he said it has to be something different than like 70. And he's like, I found out I was right. It was 62.

What do you do with that? Yeah. What do you do with that? I mean, they're not, the interim police chief of Silicaaga, who you can imagine what he looks like. Somebody said he looks like a retired rapper has said he's not going to, he's not going to arrest any of these people because he can't communicate with them. He said, and any of his police who do are going to be written up. And you think this isn't a plan. You think this happened by accident?

These people hate you. They took tens of thousands, millions of your dollars extracted at the point of a gun, and they brought these people here to destroy you and kill you. And even when you give them money, speaking in South Florida, Tyreek Hill, star wide receiver for the Miami Dolvins, right? He gets out of a game like last Sunday,

two Sundays ago maybe he gets pulled over by bike cops because he was doing 120 in a 40 zone and the bike cops, God bless him with these tough Latino guys and there I'll roll down the window because this window's superintendent

no am I roll down your window he was right I need to be able to see you man and you can watch the tape up on YouTube or wherever this is a dude who was driving

like at Lamborghini or some ridiculous like half a million dollar car right he's been given fame and fortune and everything that goes with it to go with the Queen song right and he and a co-worker of his

who got out of the car to almost start a fight with the cops over him getting arrested Callais Campbell one of his teammates instead of being like oh maybe I shouldn't have been doing 120

in a 40 phone or even a 6th, like 120, but there's no road in America where you're not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit. You know, one and a half times the 80 miles an hour, which is probably the highest speed limit in America. There's no place in America where that isn't a massive ticket. A take your license away sort of ticket.

And this guy proceeds to act a complete fool, act belligerent, then arrested. Okay. I think his house burned down because he didn't have, you know, I'm pretty sure it's Tyreeks Hill's house to burn down. Pete, did you look that up? Because he didn't have proper smoke detectors.

Right? Of course, right? The ceiling bird chirps. This man has been given everything. Is he polite? Is he grateful? She's like, man, I should be, you know, think. God for all these white people who love to watch football.

They give me everything. I should be really, really grateful to them. No, he's a complete dirtbag. He's an entitled piece of crap. And instead of wanting to live in a society where stuff like that doesn't happen, pro-lifers will say, well, but abortion disproportionately affects black people. We've got to stop it. It's racist.

So what? Let's be honest with ourselves. and say, yeah, you know what? The black American population, not exactly known for their ability to live with others. And that's caused untold amounts of abortion in this country, not just because the abortions that they get, but the nice middle-class couple,

they can only afford two kids to send a private school because they live near Atlanta, and they can't send their kids to Atlanta public schools because they die. And so that 35-year-old mom of two who works, you know, her birth control failed and she got an abortion because her and her husband can't afford another kid. And a little 17-year-old Janie, right, who was sexually assaulted by people that shouldn't have been around her in the first place, her mom and dad quietly take her to the abortion clinic because they know what color of the baby is going to be

and it's not the one that they wanted for their grandkid. I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's what's happened. And until pro-lifers can deal with the realities in front of their face and be honest that abortion is here. It was on a couple weeks ago with Great Tim Kelly, and he put it this way. In modesty and dress and feminism, which is a transgender movement, led to pornography, which led to abortion, or which led to contraception, which led to abortion, which led to contraception, which led to abortion, which led to transgenderism.

You have to reject all of it. And you have to be honest enough with yourself to do. It's going to take a long time to reverse all these ill effects. It's going to take years of hard, patient work of rebuilding a culture that is actually capable of being pro-life. Our culture right now is not capable of being pro-life because we live in the degenerate society. And until you're wanting to do the hard, work that it's going to take to change that every time you give into the regime framing,

you make it that much harder to change course, make it impossible to change course. You know, I mean, when Donald Trump says, if Kamala Harris wins, uh, Israel will be destroyed. Okay, well, you just gave me a good vision to vote Kamala. But if you're not willing to actually deal with reality, you're going to lose. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I got to button it up for tonight, man. I'm sorry with a bit delay.

But, I mean, am I wrong? I'm pretty quiet. This is pretty much just been me ranting all night. No, I mean, it's, I mean, I'm at my wits. And it's like, you, people really need to start understanding. now that they can't wait until they have to start planning for this stuff now to happen in their area.

Especially if they live in a really nice area. Especially if they live in a rural nice area. I mean, 20,000 Haitians in the span of 18 months, your town is gone. That's two divisions. That's like the 801st, you know. And one of the reasons,

I keep bringing that up and I brought that up. It's because it's the same thing as the abortion thing. It's like you're just not going to do anything about it. You're not, you're just not. You're, if you're not willing to do it about that, what do you suppose, I mean, people are, people who have to leave, like the only place their family's ever lived. I mean, look at like, like, CJ Engel, like a sixth generation Californian and Andrew Isker like a sixth generation

Minnesotan they're like leaving why it's just it's been taken over I had to leave I know you

yeah I mean well we're not gonna tell it to say anything about what from where and to where I won't because yeah but I

but yeah yeah and you had to leave you were from the greatest city on the place of the planet yeah why why why couldn't you

you know in what we know circumstances otherwise but why couldn't you peep from Queens who took your like why

weren't you able to get married to a girl down the block who you know in all your life you went to the same parish you went to the same high school that was you know you know

the girl next door you get married you live in an apartment two blocks from where your folks lived you went to the same church does 2,200 murders a year yeah because

2200 murders a year. That's right. And until the people who, in the pro-life movement, accept the truth about the JQ, the reality of race, the reality of women, not being fit to hold any kind of political power, and as long as they accept framing of the enemy,

they will continue to lose continuously. There's no way to win if you're playing by the enemy's rules. If you want a world where every child is welcomed, then you're going to have to work to disempower the Jews, repatriate all the immigrants, and remove the franchise from women, period. And that's, you can like it or not,

but that's what's going on. And until you're willing to be honest about that, babies will continue to get slaughtered by the tens of millions. You know, the Nuremberg regime supplied Stalin with 10,000 aircraft from Montana that flew all the way through Canada, all the way through Alaska, and all the way, like halfway around the world, like 10,000 miles. And enough material for 40 divisions from around through the Caucasus. Stalin himself says that they would have lost without all the stuff that the Americans gave these people. No Stalin, no Mao, no Mao, no Ho Chi Minh, no Pol Pot,

no one child program in China that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions. No Nuremberg, no, no, no, no, no J dominated America. No New Deal regime that's responsible for, tens of millions of abortions. You know, this is a serious, serious thing where the people in charge effectively worship Satan and sacrifice babies to Molok for political power.

Until you're willing to treat it like that and not an excuse to virtue signal, you're going to lose. You have to reward your friends and be indifferent to your enemies. If New York wants to go to Satan, it pains me to say this. It's a beautiful city.

I wish, uh, I gotten to see it when it was still something. But that's not my problem. I can't care about that. I can care about my patchy dirt. And the pro-life movement has to care about their people and only their people. Or they'll lose.

Make sure every kid in your church can have three kids and then get back to me about the poor, benighted Haitian immigrants. I don't see why people think that they shouldn't be taking care of their own when they look around and every other group is taking care of their own. Why? Just because somebody told you that white people are evil, why do you believe them? Why do you care? Why do you care what they have to say? The same people that have sacrificed 60 million American babies to Satan tell you you you're evil for caring about your people as opposed to the people that sacrificed babies to Satan.

huh? Like, what? Kamala Harris is a prostitute who murders babies. She tries to people who stop that, tries to throw them in jail. She sells baby parts. Why do you care what anybody who's on her side of anything thinks about anything at all? Well, they call you a racist. So what? Forty-six percent of black women have herpes. You think you're going to get them to stop behaving in a vulnerable way just because you told that it was wrong. Haitian immigrants are driving with,

they're killing old people by a little old lady who was just putting her trash out by driving, just driving all over the road drunk at 10 a.m. You think you're going to breach that person with an argument? They have an IQ of 67. I'm not saying we should be pro.

Margaret Sangha was a goal. She was an evil person. She was a servant of the devil. But when she says, oh, I want to kill all the stupid people, you can't be like, well, we need to be very, very pro the stupid people because that's the moral thing to do.

Like, no, you need to be pro good people. And eventually they'll find a way to take care of the stupid people. But you can't let me. Do you know who the wealthiest person in Haiti is? I believe it's the one billionaire in the island who's Jewish. Can't remember his name. Gilbert, Gizio, a Sephardic Jew from Aleppo in what is now Syria. Yep, just like Heim Sabin,

not Heim Seban, Oh, Heim Seamus, he's Jewish. The guy who owns New York Times is a, Carlos Slim. Carlos Slim is a Lebanese. I don't think he's Jewish, but he's, he's, uh, of Syrian or Lebanese extraction. The entire elite in those countries is low trust, you know,

gold chain race. And because there's no, how are you going to find a guy to run the DMV with an IQ of 67? That's the average. Half or dumber than that. All right. Let's wrap. I got to get.

Good night. I get some sleep. Yeah. No. Thank you, man. I'll make sure to, I'll make sure to link to your telegram chats and everything. And,

yeah, thank you. Thank you. I mean, I know that we, uh, we bounced around a little bit. But I hope people understand that all of these things are related, you know.

And I brought up Augustine because Augustine said that Christians can go to war when there's, with the intention to make peace, with the intention to bring order. I mean, and I'm not asking people to be violent. politics is war by other means. But if you look around and you think that we have peace and we have calm and we have order, then there's something wrong with you. And there's something equally wrong with you

if you call yourself a Christian and you think that somehow you martyring yourself and your kids and basically martyring, making the decision to martyr every other Christian in this country because, oh, we're not supposed to do anything. We lose down here.

All our treasures stored up in heaven. Well, again, it's one of the reasons why there have been long stretches in my life where I just avoided church. Not because I didn't believe in the doctrine. and not because I didn't, but because I just didn't want to be around the people. Just didn't want to be around these people. Pathetic.

I mean, they're really, really pathetic. That's it. That's what I got.