The Pete Quiñones Show - The Discussions With 'Dark Enlightenment' (So Far) - Part 1

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cignoness show for the first time. Someone I've been talking to for a while. It goes by Dark Enlightenment. How are you doing, sir? It's a pleasure and an honor to be here. I'm a big fan of your show. I think I first heard of you on an episode of Tom Woods, and I followed you.

And I must have listened to 30 Pete Cunionioner shows in a row. Just, oh, and he's got this guy. And, oh, man, I remember that. And it was a wonderful discovery. And I love your program, man. It's really, really good. And in particular, the stuff you've doing with Thomas has been just absolutely outstanding. So, you know, good job.

Thank you so much. Yeah, man. Thomas is a treasure. I mean, he needs to be protected at all costs, the information that he has. From now on, I'm just going to call you DE. So, DE, why don't you tell a little bit about your background? So I'm in my, say, mid-early 40s-ish. So I was right at that age to be radicalized by 9-11 and I had a brief neocon phase.

And then after about 03, when I saw what a rambling disaster, everything was turning into, I got turned on to Dr. Paul. Actually, in fact, no, I think I voted for, in the 2000 election, I think I voted for the libertarian party so i'd been like a you know edgy anarchist in high school like you know 97 98 that'd be harry brown yeah harry brown and then um and then kind of took a neocon term with the war obviously and then uh and then realized that was all BS and um got deeply into moldbug in 07 and um i started reading hans excuse me um and then kind of was like, wait a minute, Hans just re-inded feudalism.

What do you mean by that? You want to clear your throat? Yeah, I just, sorry, I muted for a second. So Hans-Rubman-Hoppa, right? Like, the democracy, the guy that failed, like blew my mind, right? It's just, just, whoa. And of course, his technical analyses. In fact, I was just listening to your discussion from last year of,

gosh, what was it? One of Hans's articles about, like, practical libertarian, like the libertarian, for those who say libertarianism is neither left nor right, they are delude. Yeah. But anyway, like, like a government of property owners that is primarily

concerned with the intact family and the patriarchal system, like, wait a minute, this is just feudalism. And I'm, I'm a right-wing Catholic guy, so I was like, well, that's cool. Congratulations. Hans just reinvented, you know, monarchy yield feudalism. Like, the judge of last resort, that's just

the king. Okay, okay, bro, cool. we monarchists now all right and uh and you know you go through it's amazing how many people don't see that you know um moldbug caught a lot of crap for reading reading democracy the god that failed and you know settling on monarchism settling on you know one one ruler um the you know the person that makes the exception who decides the exception and so many people are like, well, how did he get that? How did he get, go back, go read it through those, through that lens and see what you think.

Right. Yeah. I mean, Curtis and, you know, obviously Curtis is brilliant. And, you know, your interviews with him have been great. Thank you. But, and, you know, I, I kind of got into this via Tom Woods. I still, you know, I probably listened to, gosh, a thousand episodes to Tom. I mean, you know, hundreds and hundreds.

at least. And he's still just high quality, brilliant guy. I really, his, his work on, you know, just wonderful, wonderful stuff. And I think that what you, what you see as you, as the years have gone by, right, is like, there's no such thing as a free market. Because it's conditioned, like, oh, well, the free market will take care of this. What free market? We have a, a, a, a banking cabal that runs everything that effectively sets prices for everything via, you know, manipulation of interest rates and in manipulation of capital flows. There's no, there's no free market there. So what do you do now? And that ultimately leads to you to asking, you know, mid-20th century questions, shall we say, and not being as

upset with those guys as you've been taught to all your life. And I'll leave that there. But that's basically where I'm at is, is, you know, if, you know, there's this kind of Catholic idea of distributism of like making capital as widely spread as possible. But in any kind of conflict, right, like if you have artisanal handmade widgets and the guy who's you're competing against, whether in the marketplace or, you know, like an actual war, right? if his widgets are mass produced and they're 80% as good as yours and he can produce a thousand of them of a day and you can produce 50 of them a day, you're going to get

beaten. It's just that there's no other way around it. So you have to do some kind of production at scale, which means distributism out the window. And then so then what do you do there? And the question then becomes like, okay,

which sort of right authoritarian government do you want? And I'm happy with any kind of right authoritarian government. You know, if the ghost of Augusto was to come back, I would do a jig, right? If others along those sorts of lines, they're infinitely better than what we have now. And I consider, you know, people who are solid hop, not left libertarians because they're just, they're just kindness with the extra steps. But, you know, any right libertarian, any monarchist, anyone who's, anyone who's, say, quote, unquote, on the wrong side of history with the 20th century, they're generally

allies of mine, and I respect almost everybody who's willing to put in the intellectual work to find the truth out. And my particular interest, I was big into the neo-reactionary stuff. There's a gentleman by the name of Christopher Alexander, who's a Jewish-British-British architect who had a book that was big in knee reaction circles in 2011 or so called a pattern language talks about land development and that's kind of where I went off and down a little bit a trail about that kind of stuff and so I've kind of specialized in that and have done a lot of podcasts about that sort of thing why the suburb is doomed to fail and why our development pattern is makes us poor and it's deliberate choice.

and a bunch of other stuff along those lines, but that's a lot. Yeah, a lot of the stuff that you recommend that I talk about with Tim from our interesting times where we're talking about how the suburbs came into existence. Before we jump off on that, did you see it as I see it? I'm probably going to ask this to every former libertarian I ever talked to. is that a lot of libertarians are atheists. But when you really talk to them, economics is their religion. They honestly believe that, like, economics can cure degeneracy.

Economics can cure violence. You know, that every, you know, people are violent because, you know, of socioeconomic factors. Basically, economics can cure war. every that economics got yeah and for a lot and for a lot of those things they're not entirely wrong and economics can ameliorate

a lot of that stuff it absolutely can you know but once you accept that a couple things not everyone is equal and not everyone wants to be free so if you've ever been to a libertarian medium

you know right it's literally like if you're lucky 10 dudes but usually like five dudes all of whom are a little bit autistic every one of whom has an IQ of 120 um and it's like well if society was composed entirely of 120 to 120 IQ plus you know autistic Asian and white men then yeah everything would work great I mean no one would ever have any children but but it would be peaceful and everything would be market based and but that's not the way the world works And once you accept that, you know, once you have read like the bell curve or gotten exposure to any of Jerry Taylor's work or, I don't know, dealt with a woman, it just falls apart. Oh, you got, you had me right there at the ending.

Well, you know, the economics thing is, sure, you know, so say that you had like hard currency. I always talking about hard currency. There's only going to be 21 billion, or 21 million Bitcoin. on. So is it going to end war? No, it's not. It could end war on a mass scale. You know, it's like what I'm seeing now. To me, the Russia invasion of Ukraine, well, first of all, to me, it's just the section that they invaded is just Russia invading Russia. I mean, it's just them invading themselves. They just happen to be, that part of their country happens to be held hostage by somebody else. But I mean, it's literally what we've seen in the, for most of the history of

mankind before central banking when you actually, when a king actually had to pay for the wars, is you have a local war, you have a local land war. And unfortunately, like a lot of wars in history, it's also a brother's war. And but to look at it and, you know, watching everybody clutched their pearls over this, it's like, this is who we are. I mean, if you don't believe in the Whig theory of history where everything's getting better and the progressives are like everything now is about morality and not about practicality or consequentialism, then you have to look at something like this and be like, okay, you know, sure, economics could stop mass scale wars and endless wars, but you're still going to have things like this because you're still going to have things like rushing on its Ukraine, because this is who we are. right human beings have interests and those interests don't always agree and there's going to be conflicts you know it's just it's just what happens well i don't understand what the whatever when you know oh gosh this is the worst thing ever you're an american who cares i mean if we you know if the

united states has to go into you know mexico to stop cartels which they've done or if you know have to go into Canada to basically stop communism, which may have to one day, because that's just going to get closer and closer here and just infect us in ways that we won't, we can't foresee now, then, and I'm kind of kidding about the Canada thing. People just have to really open up their eyes and start, and get, get off of this, you know, what's, what San Francisco. I mean, how many times has the United States invaded Haiti? I mean, what, a dozen have a doesn't a lot well i mean look look how much we get from haiti like 10,000 migrants pouring over the border in one day oh i mean they're all going to be locked do lawyers and doctors

pete you know like yeah but like george fentanyl astronauts yeah exactly what he could have we just then we can have murals every place the united states invades you can uh every place a global homo invades and the g ae invades will have um murals of hathians pouring over the border. I mean, people, you know, we're making fun of this now, but this is the this is literally insane.

It's literally insane that we have to, we can make jokes about this because this is what exists in reality. Well, and this is, this is where libertarians fall apart. Like, you know, the whole libertarians are open borders. Like, borders are illegitimate, bro. Like, oh, the border is just a collective property of, you know, as Hans would say, like,

the net taxpayers collective ownership of the borders is you know like it just is right you know like you don't get to invade my house um and and there's such things as externalities and so libertarianism deals very poorly with these sorts of things and again you know if if i'm sure you've seen it but basically if you have an IQ below a certain threshold you can't entertain hypotheticals so Pete how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning hungry okay yeah you can entertain that hypothetical because you're not a moron but there's substantial percentages of the population and those unfortunately are not uniformly distributed across

all ethnic groups where but I did eat breakfast this morning but yeah but how would you feel if you hadn't well you know like they literally can't entertain that hypothetical yeah and in a large numbers of patients literally can't entertain that hypothetical of like what I didn't eat bread you know but I did and so the idea that like they're going to equally compete in a free market that is I mean rapidly you know low-skill labor is being replaced by robots and

forced labor you know like and drudge labor from Spain or not from Spain but from Hispanic countries like this person's never going to compete never in a million years this person is never going to hold an economically viable job and and

libertarians too many of them well frankly they're just wakes, right? That, you know, that they're, you know, Thomas Jefferson, who, you know, is in many ways admirable, like, probably was smoking a little bit. You know, it'd be really cool, man. If everybody was equal. And then, oh, you know, yeah, if everyone was like an autistic 170 IQ aristocrat, yeah, that would work, bro. But look outside. That's not how it works. And, And most people just, most libertarians, either they grow up and, like, realize that the world isn't that way. And actually, you know, I've used this formulation before.

Only, you know, libertarians are some very Anglo philosophy. No one, almost no one on the continent actually, you know, believes this sort of stuff. But it was Hans being an honorable exception. But no one, no one outside of like Hans the territories or maybe. Mediterranean mercantile or even begins the entertaining idea. But

libertarianism is just the natural ideology of armed white guys amongst themselves. So if you're a Duke and I'm a Duke and we both have

our own families and our own arms and our own bros that with, hey, it's, you know, Pete's giving me a hard time. Fellas, let's go remind Pete

that we have teeth too. And then Pete goes, oh, these give me a hard time, boys, it's time to go saddle up. Then all of a sudden, we're, you know, there's 50 guys on either side of this line going, do you really want to? And we're just going, oh, God, you know, that'd be expensive in a paining ass, and I might get stabbed. So let's just figure out a way to work this out. And then you do. And you don't interfere, because why would I bother you?

It's expensive, and it's mostly irrelevant, right? Right. And there's no one, and there's no one really to profit from it. Right. No one's profiting from this. Exactly. And so the problem is, is that, you know, libertarians want to pretend that, that everyone's the same. And they're just not.

And once you accept that, like libertarianism goes out the window or becomes a suicidal ideology. The, talking about how people have different, um, different IQs, they can't. They just can't think. I mean, the way I look at it is they're very programmable. So, you know, you have this ideology of all men are created equal. We're going to have basically an open, open society. And then communism comes along, you know, in Europe. You start, it's being formulated.

And now it's a quote unquote coherent ideology. And social engineers, people, with, you know, people with high IQs, but who are devious, who are not on our side, take that and they use it to program the people with the 80 and 90 IQs because the people with the 80 and 90 IQs are going to be like, oh, yeah, why are those people up there with the 130s and 140s doing so well? Why shouldn't I be more like them? Oh, this ideology tells me that we're all equal and that we should all be on the same playing field, and if those people up there with the 130s and 140s don't agree, we should just kill them.

I mean, that sounds, it sounds like, that's very historical. And it also sounds like something that most people who are on the libertarian side or even the conservative side, the civic nationalist side, would, would not like. Yet, well, they defend, yet they defend. a system that allows it right well and okay so your your um race war and high school series has been um both depressing and outstanding and i have to thank you for turning me under that particular book it's a gold mine of of resources rose pinocche saw someone posting about it on twitter she pointed out and said hey find this book and i'm like it's six hundred dollars

And then somebody in the private chat found a PDF of it. And it was like, all right, let's start reading this. Yeah. Anyway, but, okay. So just use this example, this neighborhood as an example. Okay. Keep in mind two facts. This is a couple years ago, but current.

I couldn't find it again if I tried. But I swear, I found. a thing that said the average like black gal was 185 pounds at age 18 now this was like 2019 or 2018 but

reasonably recent number okay Hispanic girls were like 165 white girls were like 140 Asian girls were like 110 okay so if you have an environment

like those Bronx schools where you're told you're equal, you're equal, you're equal, the only thing that keeping you down is racism every day by the culture, by the news, by your teachers, everyone, right? And you show up and you're poorer than your white classmates. The white girls are prettier than the black girls, the white girls are skinnier than the black girls

they have intact families you don't you work lower class jobs than they do like if you just have all of these inequities and the only explanation that you have that you've been told at all is racism that's just a it's just a disaster waiting to happen

whereas if you were honest about these things well no I mean for these reasons some biological some cultural this these different outcomes happen, then you could actually come to some sort of motives of Vendee, maybe, but certainly not, you know, when, when you're told all the time that the only explanation is racism. It just doesn't make, it's just guaranteed to induce violent resentment. Yeah, and that's where the social engineers, that, it's the social engineers that are doing

this. Right. And E. Michael Johnson has done some outstanding work on social engineering. a big fan of his work, particularly, particularly slaughter of cities. But, right, I mean, just think about that for just a second. Okay, if the average girl that you average, we're not talking dead on bag average at age 18 is 1885 pounds. And you're constantly exposed to other women from other groups. And you're told all the time that, oh, secretly, they like.

your group, but they don't actually, and they're slimmer, and they're more feminine, and they're, and they, you know, they do all this other stuff that women are supposed to do, and you're constantly told, like, oh, no, the reason all of this stuff happened, of course you're going to get this outstanding, ridiculous resentment. If you're, you know, if you're told, oh, you guys are just the same, and the only reason they throw you in jail in mass numbers is, is, is this racism, not. okay, well, you know, for reasons that are complicated due to biology and absent fathers and this and then the other, you know, whatever. If we had a real academic establishment, right, you know, supposedly, you know, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge, a co-polyton University of Chicago Caltech, right?

It's the greatest collection of, you know, brains, knowledge, you know, the great libraries, communications, all of that stuff. if it was all like the modern university system basically they suck up everybody with an IQ above 130 then they shuffled them into these places if they were really honest they'd ask these questions and they'd come to some kind of conclusion of like okay well this is why this happens and yet it never does why

why why is you know there there are certain like Certain people who are alt-re with the establishment who've been writing journals for 30 years that should be, you know, high-quality academic journals. But those academic journals aren't asking those actual relevant questions because they're more interested in social engineering

than they aren't finding out the truth, which is how you get people listening to this program. They're like, well, wait a second, this doesn't sound exactly right. And then they end up down the rabbit hole. where they're listening to you and me. So if this lack of truth about key issues across the board causes major problems that are basically intractable, you really have no choice but to, like, secede from the system, because the system is not going to let like Pete Crenonez on Meet the Press to tell

you should. You know, you produce a very high quality program. You should be the guy, you know, you know, debating Luke Russert and, you know, Luke Restor's just there because his dad was a good reporter one upon a time. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, well, and that's specifically where we're at right now.

And, you know, we can jump into talking about, you know, building something parallel to it because it's reached a point where they're just not going to allow it to happen. There aren't going to be dissident voices aren't going to be allowed on, you know, you, I mean, I don't believe that Elon Musk is saving Twitter. I think it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be shortly we're going to see Twitter go back to the way it was, you know, I would like to have one of my old accounts back, but that be, I mean, I don't even count on that. But what you do see is you see that people are,

the people who are complaining the most about Trump are people who are aligned with the regime, aligned with the regime in charge. And their biggest concern is that anything that goes counter to the narrative is going to be allowed on the platform and not only counter to the narrative, because there are plenty of us putting information counters to the narrative out there, but people with large followings like E. Michael Jones is back on. Jared Taylor, we'll see if Jared Taylor gets back on there. You know, people who are saying, well, this didn't happen because of the free market. This happened because it was forced upon us. And, you know, and some of them even name names. And that's something that they just cannot allow. Because, you know, somebody, somebody made the

point in a, in a response to, um, a response to Elon Musk was that, you know, when, when right wing, you know, right wing opinions are basically normal. Their nature. They come from nature. People who consider themselves be right wing are mostly, mostly normal people. Left wing is so. Left Wing thought, progressive thought especially, is so far out of the mainstream, out of the ordinary, away from nature, that they need other voices to be suppressed so that people can believe that it's the norm. Yeah. No, that's completely true. Like, a dude in the dress is ridiculous, right? I'm supposed to pretend that Bruce Jenner, like, do you? y'all remember the nineteen seventy six olympics this dude has won the most difficult he was the greatest athlete in the world he won the greatest male zicathlon just but it's it's the hardest thing to do you have to be good at like literally 10 different things and they're and they're wildly

different he was the greatest athlete in the world as a dude and i'm supposed to pretend he's a pretty woman now that he's in his 60s no You know, Steve Saylor had that, I have that, like, nailed, whoa, 20 years ago. And he was like, no, this guy's just a narcissist. And he had a whole taxonomy of these people. But because, you know, even knowing the name Steve Saylor is enough to get you in trouble these days. But, you know, you don't want to talk about somebody that should be more widely respected. You mentioned Jared Taylor.

And Steve Saylor is just one of the nicest people. He's going to have, if you're debating him, he's going to be polite. He's just going to give you the facts. he's not there he's not a bomb throw he's not like me i mean he's or me yeah yeah literally he's just literally a sweet guy who likes spreadsheets and he doesn't lie that's all he is it's like well but but the math says this it's like well yeah but steve that's mean it's like well but the math says and it's literally just but but the math says but the spreadsheet like i i can look into the spreadsheet and see if someone mess with it but but you know basically this is the way it goes

and that's all that happened is, you know, those people and, you know, I've made this point elsewhere, but, but it's worth repeating. Basically, um, uh, Pap Buchanan maybe even anyone

you know, Pap Buchanan was like a normal dude in 1992, right? Heck even Donald Trump in 2016 was just like Bill Clinton in 1996. right anyone to the right of that so basically all the political history up until i don't know 2011 when was the obergapel decision right like everything up to then is now like in the hate bunker and you're a nazi right like if you believe that like i don't know bruce jenner's a dude and that um children need a family and that um it is child abuse to expose children to um

men and dresses and that people who do things like mutilate children should at a bare minimum face a very steep fine and have those children taken away versus now like you know in Canada it's normal like if you are a parent and you're one of your children gets brainwashed into thinking that the opposite gender the state will take away your children from you that's how that's that's that's that's madness. That is madness. And the problem we have is fundamentally conservatives believe in institutions and like, oh, well, you know, like this is no, no, no, no. At this point, you know, the whole thing is illegitimate. It's a scam. Right. It's a scam. I was talking with a relative at Thanksgiving and, you know, he's a moderate Republican type and not very happy with the way the post-Trump party. And, you know, I pointed out like in O.A. a bunch of people who were against Bush's wars voted for a brown socialist who grew up in Muslim countries and what do we get? We got a massive bailout. Goldman Sachs picked his cabinet

and he bombed more people than George W. Bush. I mean, every American president up my entire lifetime and I'm in my mid-40s has been a war criminal with the possible exception of Jimmy Carr. I mean How insane is that? Yeah.

Like they're literally all war criminals, all of them. And, you know, Oh, Nancy Pelosi just made $100 million for no reason whatsoever. Get out of here. Ridiculous. You know, I've made... The longest serving Republican Speaker of the House was Dennis Hastert. And there was a shining moment there right after Bush won where there was 55 Republican senators, the House of Representatives, and a conservative Christian president.

What did we get as conservative Christians? Oh, wait a minute. Nothing. Not a Rowe Rube Wade repeal, not school choice. Nothing. Why? Well, because the Speaker of the House was a pedophile. and neither side will talk about it neither side will bring it up if you bring it up um darrell darrell cooper from the martyr made podcast said recently he said he saw someone bring that up in an interview recently and someone was like oh yeah i forgot about that how do you forget about that how do you forget that the third in line you know the second in line to the presidency was a pedophile

Yeah. I mean, and not just, not just that. But I mean, how long has everyone known Paul Pelosi's a closet case? This was not on my 22 bingo card. I mean, it makes sense, I guess. But like, how compromised are these people who, you know, is our friend Ryan Dawson has done? He's done outstanding work. Who exactly was on that plane? How many people went? You know, have you ever, have you ever read the flight logs? Oh my gosh. It's really creepy. Well, even, even when you look at the people who are on there, where you'll, one flight will have Jeffrey Epstein, Elaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and one female. There's no name. How do you have flight logs where you don't put someone's name on it? All you put is one female.

I mean, yeah. I can't be the only one who sees that, and it's like, the, the FAA goes, pours over these light locks. Yeah. And they didn't say, well, what's the name of the female? Okay. If I want to get on an airplane and go visit you, right? In order to buy my ticket, they have to have to have. have my name, my ID number, a credit card with my name on it, if it's effectively a second

form of ID, I get to the airport. They check my ID not once, not twice, but three separate times when I check my bags, add security, and when I get on the airplane. Yeah. Yeah, but if you, and I'm just a dude who's, like, like, I'm, I'm going to Florida to visit my buddy. I'm not some, you know, like I'm not, you know, this is not, this is not some nefarious plot. It's like I'm doing what every American is done, you know, like, I'm going to Florida in January because it's warm. And also my buddy lives there. This is not some nefarious like, I'm going to a private island where lots of really rich people

hang out. Like, no, this isn't anything nefarious. And yet, you know, IDs have to be checked multiple times. And, and, and, I mean, massive security state needs to come down on you and God forbid you accidentally forget to take out a pocket knife out of your pocket or something like that, but Jeffrey Epstein can get on a plane with a female? Come on. You know, and, and so, you know, why would everyone pick Trump?

Because they were so sick of this system. that was obviously screwing them, that they picked a bomb thrower. And it turns out that he wasn't so great, but that's a whole separate discussion. And so, you know, the system isn't going to reform itself. The system isn't going to save itself. You know, I still, in many respects, am, you know, that libertarian guy that, that, you know, came into this sort of space from, like, radical Second Amendment prepping type stuff like Western Rifle shooters or, or, or, you know, the high road, you know, gun stuff and Mike Vanderbaw, things like that, right? And just to illustrate this one more time, right?

So you're old enough and I'm old enough to remember that when, oh, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush are buddies, or H.W. Bush are buddies. they smuggled cocaine into Arkansas and they kill kids was like a crazy person thing that you only heard it like two in the morning in 1993 like um like art bell right right and then you know what after it's too late to do anything about it they make a movie starting tom cruise saying hey yeah that skits so crazy person was right back in 1994 saying that bill clinton and you know it was all cave abe and and that these guys actually do smuggle cocaine into me to Arkansas like uh You know, holy, oh my gosh, you know, like you're admitting. And so this system is going to fall apart because there's the $19 trillion or whatever $20 trillion or however many trillion dollars of U.S. federal debt. There's the same again in private credit card debt and everything else because that's what people have been using to keep ahead or keep even is they're basically going into debt. But then there's all the unfunded liabilities.

And it's just not going to get paid, man. it's just not you know so the libertarians are completely right about that that the system just is going to fall apart there's no way none that this is going to get paid off so what do you do right because obviously that's a question right because everything up until now is just a complete black pill and you know unfortunately people think especially libertarians are very very guilty of this as they have their way that they're going to get from a to be from A to C. Of course, they never talk about B, but they're going to get to, they're going to get to C. And if you don't 100% agree with the way they're doing it, you're blackpilled, no matter how many, no matter, no matter how many solutions you're presenting them.

So let's talk a little bit about solutions. Okay. I'm going to, you're familiar with the consultant's triangle? you could have something good good cheap or fast yeah yeah okay okay well America or actually rather car dependent societies with adequate amounts of diversity so you can this can also apply it to Canada increasingly two places in England and Western Europe but they force you into a a tri-limit too most people want to live someplace idea right ideal world Pete lives

close to work someplace that's affordable and someplace that's safe right your ideal world is like if you have if you have to work for somebody else you roll out of bed at 645 you grab a cup of coffee and a shower

you walk downstairs and it's a three blocks walk to your nice office you walk home at lunch and you know you walk home so get a little bit exercise you don't really have to spend any time out of your day

and it's not that bad and it's safe and you know the rents you know a thousand bucks a month something reasonable well you've you've lived in New York City you've lived in Atlanta you've lived in other places that's not how it works at all right like

Not at all. Like, so in New York, New York is a great example. There are really wealthy places in New York that are really safe, really, really safe. No problem whatsoever. They're going to cost you, probably at like a bare minimum, $450,000 a year to live there.

Sure, absolutely. So you've got to have a huge amount of money. Right. Right. So. And then you can't really do anything against the system because if you speak out too vociferously about something, you lose that job that at $455,000 your job that enables you to live on the Upper West Side and have your nice, easy commute into the final district and make huge amounts of money. So you destroy your life if you, if you say anything too interesting or too true in that sort of situation. Then you have some place like Atlanta, where most people choose someplace they can afford and someplace that's safe, particularly if you're like married and have kids. You do not want your children going to, you know, the race war in high school school, where there's a pretty decent chance that your kid's going to get stabbed on this way to the bus. You just, you're just not going to do that. And so you get Atlanta traffic, which, you know, I mean, forget to stakes.

It's, it's like people are commuting from four states into Atlanta. They're, you know, eastern Tennessee. I, uh, with a friend of mine who worked, who lived outside of Atlanta, uh, you know, lived more rural, but worked in Atlanta, but worked in Atlanta, uh, we sat down and did the math on at one time and he spends, um, almost two months a year in his car, going back and forth to work. Yes. I mean, that's not a, that's not a life.

No. No, it's, it's, it's, it's insane. And in fact, I mean, that's why this whole This whole thing exists. The phenomenon of the podcast is, is, you know, someone who is reasonably intelligent said, If I hear this freaking journey song one more time, I'm going to lose my mind.

And so the podcast was born because, so you've got, you know, your buddy probably goes through an audio, a big, like he could go through war and peace on his daily commute in like a month, you know, like in two weeks, you know, at one time speed. We're not talking a dude who listens at two and a half or twice speed with skip silence and the whole, you know,

speeding everything up. We're talking about a dude who's like listening at one time speed going, it was the best of times, it was the worst of time. Like, he's going to go through that entire book. A thousand pages. And it's better than welcome to the Fox 100.7 where we still pretend this 178 and you still have hair.

You know, like, it's better than that. And that's hellish, you know, and I suppose I did except that I have any notoriety at all. It's because I have done the podcast thing. And so I suppose I should be grateful that there's all these people who are stuck in traffic listening to me. But it's insane. It's absolute madness. And then once he gets home, right, you've got this, these suburb. that are organized along this kind of cul-de-sac street pattern,

there's no central square. There's no pub for him to stop by after work. One of the best things about living in the big city, right, is you had a regular bar where you could go grab a drink after work and then walk home. Well, you know, the only, quote-unquote, collective place where this guy has anything is a mall. And if he starts talking about how they're all getting screwed

and it's ridiculous that they're spending two months a day, you know, two months out of the year in his car, and he hates it and he never sees his family and he only has one kid because he doesn't even have time to, you know, like talk to his wife, let alone have more kids, you know, whatever, all the, all these legit real grievances this friend of yours has, he's going to get trespassed out of the mall. So there's no public space. There's no way to organize. There's no, I mean, you know, and of course, because since it's not walkable, since everything requires a car, you know, if you want to have a meeting with 500 people, where are you going to find a parking lot with 500 spaces? you know so that makes it impossible to organize or you could have that other option where it's affordable and it's close to work but you're going to get stabbed how do you organize in you know

race warrant high school neighborhood you knock on the doors you know hi i'm mr canones i'm your neighbor uh you know this this thing is happening and and uh we're getting screwed and you know they're to destroy the neighborhood, you know, you might get some, some people interested. Odds are pretty good, though. You know, if you do that for a week straight, you're going to get stabbed or robbed. So you're not going to, you're not going to organize. You can't because there's no coherent community and it's mutually hostile. So we have this trilemma of you can't organize because it would cost you your job that, you know,

it costs you the very nice life. I mean, it would be very nice to make, you know, $500,000 a year and live on Upper West Side and have a chauffeur and all that other stuff, make huge amounts money, private planes to the Bahamas, whatever. You know, if you have a family, like your poor, poor buddy who's spending, you know, a month and a half or two months in the car every, you know, that's no life either. How's he's getting screwed in, but how's he going to organize with people? There's no what, there's nowhere to organize. It's been deliberately set up that way. And then lastly, you know, you could move into, you know, the old neighborhood that you grew up in. It's diverse and start rabble-rous.

But there's a pretty good chance you get shot. And so under present conditions, there's just no way to fight back. So how do you secede? Because that's the only option you've got. And that's where I think something like a colony makes sense. And, you know, COVID might be the thing that broke these people. Just like the Internet was like, oh, well, this will be, this is a cool project, and DOD is going to do a bunch of stuff with it,

and we'll be able to send orders and inventive it a nuclear holocaust. It'll be great. You know, the Internet might be what breaks the system. But this COVID tyranny, as bad as it was, and I, I got to thank you personally for being very strong on this one. You know, you're, well, it's really what took my, it's really what made me start reading outside of libertarianism and going, yeah, I mean, not only does libertarianism not solve this problem because they don't have the power to or the will to, they're being openly. mocked. And I don't mind being mocked if I know I'm right, but I looked at what they were saying and it's like, well, yeah, yeah. That's one problem that, in one of the biggest problems I had with libertarianism is I can't remember who I heard say it, but they said, if you believe

that your ideology is an ideology that's going to stop war, increase human flourishing, and basically be a thousand times better than what we have now and you're not doing everything in your power to make it happen in the real world then you're immoral

you're immoral I mean look at the progressives I mean the progressives are completely anti-human but they're doing it they believe what they are you know what they what they believe they're like okay this is for all of mankind and this is how we go forward into the future and they're making it and they're kicking our butts and so

I just got to say that you know like your fourth you know like your willingness to stand up against this and not say well but my craft company or whatever nope this is inhuman it's evil it's terrible uh here I stand I can go no further you know I really appreciate that that's it's we need more people who are willing to do that. And I got to give Tom Wood some credit, too. He's been outstanding about this sort of issue. But regardless, the remote work revolution. Okay.

A couple things are going to happen because of this. That I just, we're not even going to see the full effect until probably next year, the year after. First of all, those big office towers, they're never going to be full again. Never. yeah i mean the commercial real estate is going to take a hit like you wouldn't believe and the margins were thin enough that you know taking a five 10 even a 15 or 20 percent hit is going to make a lot of people lose a lot of money

um um property taxes sales taxes those are all down significantly i don't know if they'll ever recover um so that's a lot of the benefits of like living in the big city like those are going to go away and this digital revolution you know like between Netflix and like decent craft beer available at every store why would you need to go to home right like you've got a television the size of a wall that is like if that's your thing like the football players are taller on your TV than they are in real life. And these guys are all, you know, six, six, three hundred pounds. And, you know, for, for a thousand dollars, you can go down to Best Buy and you can get a television

that's, you know, the size, size of a movie screen. I mean, I think that's really bad use of your time. But if that's, if that's you, I guess, go for it. So, right, we have all these, these options now where life can be lived more privately. And not only can it be lived more privately, circumstances are going to force you to live it more privately. You know, we're having this massive diesel shortage. Well, America runs on diesel trucks. If you've ever been on the highways at 2 in the morning, there's nothing but, uh, truckers and, you know, people with odd things going on. well those those places aren't going to those car dependent suburbs where everything is delivered to

Walmart at two in the morning by a diesel powered you know big rig that that's not going to last what it's going to last and james harvard kinsler's talked about this quite a bit is you know revivifying america's small towns if you've got a small town with like a railhead or on some kind of river you're going to be able to still get food cheap right you know food is bulky and you absolutely have to have it so it's pretty unique in terms of logistics

and stuff you know you need it on a fairly constant basis it's bulky you know you're going to have to move to places that enable you to have to not be dependent on diesel as much as say

you know the outskirts of Atlanta are and this remote work revolution is going to let you do that I'm going to sketch out a couple things that I think I think would be good ideas find a small first of all find some bros

you know find four or five or six trustworthy families where you're like, okay, these people know the score and they're willing to help prep and, you know, like they're on the same page. They're not going to get jabbed. You know, if someone's

if someone's going to get jabbed, they'll they fold it on their family, they'll fold on you. I wouldn't trust them, honestly. They believe the regime narrative that they're never going to, that's a separate discussion. Okay. So you find some people that are trustworthy and and not like a commune sort of thing because that that'll

devolve but but you do a couple things in common all right all the guys should be lifting so maybe you get half a dozen guys and you throw up one of those like sheds that you know best buy sells for ten thousand dollars everybody throws a couple grand in and you throw in uh three grand for weights you know and you get a really nice weight set up and uh you know everyone's paying $100 a month anyway for gym membership so you cancel that everyone pulls in the $500 a month and in two years you've paid for the gym and you've got this structure that's that's mostly paid off and uh you know it's six o'clock every morning everybody's working out All right, everyone's in good shape.

It's a capital good that everybody owns. You get the building. Well, you know, there's a pretty nice ones out there, these small little or maybe pre-manufactured steel building. I don't know what they cost anywhere. It's been a while since I've costing one of those out. But you've got this space and, you know, all five guys, you know, everybody's got two kids. So there's 10 kids.

And maybe Jimmy's wife, she's a schoolteacher. but she doesn't like what's been going on with, you know, the CRT and the schools and, you know, the state's going to give you $1,500 a person, $1,500 a kid to homeschool. So 10 kids, $1,500, $1,500, it's $15,000. Your school teacher's salary was, you know, $25, but she doesn't need the second car with a car insurance and she's got more time at home and all of a sudden

Jimmy's wife is teaching, you know, at the Hoppian Academy, you know, in your weight room upstairs. And and maybe, you know, Timmy's wife is able to do a couple different subjects or whatever. You know, and your point about the homeschools

being, you know, taken over by people who are being outnumbered by public school kids is well taken. I'm just you just can't put your kids in public school right now if you don't feel and I've said that over and over again and I'm like yeah homeschool but that's not going to be that's not going to save the future right well lo and behold right you know five days a week it's like the wait room at six o'clock and by 730 it's the uh school and maybe two of you guys have, you know, remote jobs where you've got a laptop job where you can just go into your office, you know, and maybe you guys build an office, you know, one other one of these shed type places. And you build an office with, you know, decent internet and it's quiet. And, you know, a couple of the, a couple of one of the guys, a couple of the guys get like one of those big panel vans. And they commute into the nearest or near a small town or you're in a small town and you're able to, you know, have a couple of guys working in the nearby small town for not much wages, but, but enough to keep a roof over their head.

But, you know, they end up knowing a farmer and you guys buy it, do a group I have of a cow, right? So our society is fake, fake rich, you know, we're not as, you know, you've probably been reading about the coming collapse of the dollar for the last 25 years like I have. And all those critiques have been accurate, you know, that just managed to keep the system going through, you know, fiat and central banking and, frankly, to get a ban into the U.S. military and the world's financial back. But all of that stuff is necessary, is still true. So if you have this alternative system where everyone, you know, like everyone goes in. and then run a cow together. You have a relationship with that farmer. And maybe you can have a,

maybe you do something like, I don't know, got a couple IT guys and you'll maintain his spreadsheets for him in exchange for a deal on the beef. Or maybe your guys that are working in town are able to collectivize certain things like driving together

maybe everyone does the extreme coupon anything maybe everyone goes to Costco at the same time one of these big vans but we're not as rich as we think we are and so things like heating water

might seem some relatively boring but up until the 20th century really heating water wasn't an individual activity It was a communal activity. Laundromats were, because heating, getting water hot is really energy intensive, really energy intensive. And so, heating 100 gallons of water collectively was much more efficient than 10 people heating 10 gallons of water to do laundry.

And so things like laundry and bathing were collective activities up until, the 20th century in America and because we're not as rich as we think we are a lot of those sorts of things are going to have to come back so maybe you get a couple of speed queens and in the gym you've got power hookups for laundry and you do everyone just does their laundry in the speed queen people are going to have to understand that you know whatever whatever else is going on in the schools, the obvious mental incapacitated in the, in the White House, Congress being a complete joke. I mean, it's been a complete joke my entire life, but, you know, it's still even more

of a joke now, right? That doesn't stop you from doing what's necessary in your own private life, and people need to stop caring. So, I mean, pay attention to it, just like you pay attention to, you know, a rabid dog that's chained up across the street. Pay attention to it. But don't make that the focus of everything you're doing. You know, so if there's things you can do to make yourself collectivize,

maybe one of the guys, you know, did a couple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he can help you guys learn how to shoot. Maybe you've got enough land that, you know, you can put a couple cows on it, and all of a sudden you got a security shack. and everyone does, you know, if there's 10, 10 guys, maybe each guy does one night a week where he's just going to have to suck it up and he does, you know, he gets home at 5, grabs a bike, he takes a nap and from midnight to, you know, or, you know, 11 to 6, he's in the guard shack. Maybe, maybe those 10 families, all of you guys get together and purchase playground equipment for your kids and it's behind a nice tall fence. So there's no one who's trying to grooms to your kids who's, you know, checking out the playground. But, you know, our enemies kick our butts not because they're better than us.

They're obviously not. I mean, they're pathetic weirdos. They kick our butts because they work together. And we need to start doing the same. I mean, that's really what people need to do. DE, you don't believe in individual liberty? Liberty is a mutual contract between men who agree to respect one or another's property rights in order to have liberty, you have to have a mannerbund.

It has to be mediated in order to have liberty. It has to be defined within certain limits. I don't think individual liberty extends as far as the ability to sexually abused children and I think that that should be stopped so Nellie do not believe in individual liberty as some people would believe it

Yeah it's The ideas that you're throwing out here They're very basic I mean I even have I mean I can go further You know we can start Approaching Dunbar's number And I mean you can have your own finance You can have your own banking.

You know, you can do what the Jews have been doing for how many, how many thousands, you know, for how many thousands of years and basically exclude everybody else from your, you know, from your, from your, from your profits, from what, what, what, what. Yeah, it's worked out well for them, you know, they run everything. So. Yeah. I mean, if you have, if you have 120 people and somebody wants to start a business and it's going to cost $50,000. and a hundred of those people give up $500 of their own money, that person doesn't have to go to the bank. Now that person can start the business, has the money to start the business,

and $500 for a brother in the community, I'm not even going to expect to see that money back. Maybe if it's a service, you know, if it's an HVAC company, you know, and I need some HVAC work done, I'll pay for the parts, you'll take care of the labor. You can do things like that.

But keeping money in the community, being insular like that. I mean, these are things people don't even think about, which can actually be done. And it doesn't have to operate like, you know, like the branch Divideons where you're all living in the same house. You just be living in the same general area. No.

Well, so have I, I know you've heard this before, but have I explained, do you think I need to make the whole why the suburbs are doomed explanation real quick? Do you think Tim did a good job? I think he did an excellent job. Everyone should listen to that show. But briefly as I possibly can.

There are blocks on Manhattan where there's more economic activity in that one block than whole countries elsewhere in the world. So putting in things like fiber and sewer and whatever is cheap. You can skim just a fraction of a percentage out the top and they can have all the nicest stuff with absolutely no real problem to the running of that particular block. And big cities work that way by having just so much stuff going on that a little tiny percentage for things like streets and sewer and water and internet and what have you. Easy. Farms and small towns work by concentrating all the stuff. in one spot so no one cares about the back 40 having really sweet internet or really good you know water pressure it just doesn't matter because there's no water pressure out there you

put a barbed wire fence up and that's it and all the resources of that farm kind of flow to that house so if the suburbs require immense amounts of pipe and in streets and and everything but there's no return in investment there's no capital accumulation in that Suburb is just a pure deadweight loss. And, you know, the episode that Tim did with Pete was excellent, and I encourage everyone to listen to that. But basically, there's no, there's no way that house pays you back, right? You know, in Pete's Tree Acres outside of Atlanta,

if it wasn't for the fact that people just say that this house is worth $350,000, what about that house makes it worth $350,000? Is there like a really great farm attached to it, where you're going to grow food? Is there a business underneath the apartment that, you know, returns money? Is it an apartment in a building that's full of apartments that you, you know, you own? Is there some sort of capital return to owning that house? Or is it a period of debt a loss?

Because in order to get food there, you have to have a truck that delivers food to the local Walmart and you have to drive your SUV, you know, from the house on Petrie Acres to Walmart and bring food back. You know, there's very little return on investment. in one of these places. And so that's why they're fundamentally not a place that can sustain itself because it's just a net capital outflow all the time. And as as things get tighter, that those margins are going to get smaller. So we need to find ways and places that return capital to us. And even if it's just like I'm not paying out anymore for food

and it's staying internal, like, and this is why that laptop job is so important, right? Because then you can have that, you know, that source of capital from outside that comes in, in substantial numbers, to circulate internally. And once that money comes in, it shouldn't go back out again. So is the HVAC guy going to make as much as the laptop guy? Probably not. But what he can do is you can do all the HVAC for all the different guys who are working in the laptop jobs.

And he can make a decent living, you know, maybe doing HVAC and then be a little plumbing or what have you within this Dunbar's Numeric community. Maybe there's a guy who's the farmer who has, you know, 20 head of cattle. And every year, you know, like everyone just gets their cattle from that guy. And as you accumulate capital, right, not only are you building trust in internal relationships and, but you're not constantly paying out. And you think about how much time you would get back. let's let's just use this hypothetical example of this gym that's put up in this

pre-manufactured steel building in one of these you know shed type places okay oh maybe the homeschool outrose you get a new building but upstairs uh there's you know a couple of couches some some nice lights uh and you know a good bunch of bookshelves and everything uh hans herman hopper ever wrote it's just sitting there. And then you guys got a library. You got a base book library for all the fellas in the community. And, oh, hey. Uh, you know, and everybody, you know, rather than everyone having to have copies of, uh, you know, democracy that God that failed me, there's five copies. And, you know, Wednesday night, instead of watching hockey, not the hockey, you

know, sad the way the NHL has gone woke, but I was, I would, I had hopes that the NHL would stay above it but maybe you guys all read Democracy the guy that fails or maybe everybody reads

AA's book you know they and you know if you have 120 families right

that's enough to buy a politician at the statehouse level or at least rent one and you can do that, you know, if you cooperate. And maybe you could get things like homeschooling pushed. Maybe you could get something like, you know, actually the state's going to pay, you know, the state pays $10,000, say, for ease of math.

The state pays $10,000 per student for public schools. We're just going to give that $10,000 to the families. All of a sudden, if you have, have five kids in school, your wife's making 50 grand. Now, a bunch of that's going to get used on piano lessons and karate lessons and math, textbooks and all that other stuff, but she doesn't need to work anymore if she's getting paid to raise your kids. And before the libertarians say, oh, that's immoral to use state money to, look, dude,

your enemies use state money to convince children that they're the opposite sex and then use state resources to me to do. them either either use the stick in front of you or get it used on you i'm sorry that's just the way it goes i mean you had that one meme that was hilarious but also painfully true of like you know the the spike baseball bat of state power right yeah and the the tranny picks it up and slams it and crushes the head of the guy with the an cap shirt on because the guy with the ANCAP shirt on is so morally, so morally, um, consistent, you know, while, you know, half of them are, over half of them are atheists. So they're hanging on to this morality

that has no basis in reality. Um, but yeah, they're, they get to remain consistent. They get to, they get to keep their identity and they get the in group doesn't make fun of them for being a statist. Yeah, that's all of that. That sounds so much better than actually thriving and having a prosperous life and taking care of your family. You got to wonder if, and you got to wonder how many of these people who, you know, are like this, the asarchists of the world, they don't have families.

What happens when, yeah, I have people who contact me all the time and they're like, yeah, I used to think just like, you know, just like, these ideologues on Twitter up until the time I had kids and then I was like okay I will do I will do ungodly things to protect them and you should yeah and um you're not doing you're not being immoral taking money from a system that spreads the usury sodomy and abortion all over the world I mean that's what USA stands for look at what they're doing in in the World Cup right now right like not you know the importance isn't like the sport of soccer or the little global community come together and enjoy this sport together no what what are they doing like they're making it all about Qatar is mean to the gays how is that my problem yeah why do I care what don't how does it don't don't you know you know it's like they'll always say things like oh well don't don't don't put your money into it you know if I'm I'm going to boycott Netflix had cuties on, so I'm not going to get money to Netflix anymore.

Well, if you're so upset about, you know, the country of Qatar and the way they treat whomever, whatever is the choice minority this week, that don't participate. But their ego can't allow it. They just can't. And then they go there and they want to make a spectacle of themselves and, you know, maybe they get caned like Singapore does. I mean, they'll get thrown in a nice, you know, prison cell where they get buggered. Well, maybe you shouldn't have went, you know, sorry. And that, and that right there is why you lose, right? Because they're willing to go to Qatar and make a mess and be obnoxious and absolutely.

And they have the full backing of the, you know, the state department and probably have the DOD. And so, like, if you see a chance to get a W right out there and get up. bunch of money, right? Like the teachers unions are basically just money laundering operations for the Democratic Party, right? So like any dollar you take from the public school system is a dollar that is not being actively used for evil. Even if you just burned it, it would be a better use of your money than letting the public school systems have it. And you got to start thinking like that, right? Like any amount of money that goes to Montanto out of your pocket is money going towards evil any amount like to find the local guy right and get your beef from him get your veggies from him

you know everyone should have a garden you know things things like that um you know we have all the knowledge in the world you know basically at our fingertips so you know i guarantee there are people listening to this right now they have a thousand ebooks on all kinds of subjects how to farm how to you know build i do uh yeah you know a lot i i haven't actually been full county but but you know lot and um you know what let's get those libraries shared let's get you know like storage is effectively free why can't you just build a local server and have your own netflix call it freedom flicks call it you know the neighborhood you know we've got you know we got all the good old movies on there there's a legit copy it's just oh hey look boom hey guys you want to

watch uh you know godfather tonight all right we got it for free you know if that's you You could collectivize all this stuff. You know, and it doesn't have to be, you know, this gigantic thing that costs tens of millions of dollars. You can start with something as simple as a gym. You know, if one of your guys has a garage that he's not using very much, and all of you guys are paying $50 a month, and there's four of you. Just start as small and small. You got a group of four guys that are each paying $50 a month for a gym.

it's $200 a month the nicest gym setup you've ever seen in your life is maybe $4,000 after inflation so for three years you take that $50 a month and you've got that gym setup paid off and all of a sudden you're working out together

and you know there's four of you and maybe you commute to work, but it's, you know, three days a week at 5.30 in the morning, you're in Jimmy's garage. And Jimmy, Pete, Tim, and Phil are getting their pump on. And they're talking about, oh, you know, well, this is, you know, one of the ways that we've been robbed, and I briefly mentioned this, but just common spaces and ability to talk to each other and say, you know, what's going on how much of how much of you know the the knowledge that's you know the red pill stuff that has kind of become a thing in the last 15 years how much of that stuff was just common

knowledge a hundred years ago you know that you've been robbed of and all of a sudden you know like yeah well you know Pete Pete pays attention to this stuff so you know in between sets Pete's going you know guys this is what's going on and then oh why didn't hear that on NPRs oh the NPR's going to lie to you, man. That's what they do. And then, lo and behold, three days later, the guy reads about FTX and going, oh, dude, Pete talked about that. And you have this chance to build a community and knowledge and relationships that enable you to live a better life. You know, ultimately, the whole point of this exercise is so that our people live better lives. I mean, you know, right now there's a lot of downside risk.

but uh you know increasingly there's not going to be any upside in the system and so how do you head that off at the past how do you how do you live better lives inside you know and you'd start doing it by collectivizing little stuff like this and and i'm not so so arrogant as to think that i know all the different ways that this you know that you could improve your life depending on where you are with your physical geography your resources and all other stuff I don't know. Maybe there's a small creek by your house

and you guys build a small scale hydro plan and all of a sudden electricity bills go down by two thirds. That can be done out of, you know, an old washer, you know. But be thinking about these sorts of things because the system as is presently presently constituted is doomed to failure. Yeah. I think most people know that.

And, yeah, I don't, I don't know how much I expect it to, you know, just, like, fall apart. I mean, things like this can keep going for a while. They're just going to get weaker and weaker. Yeah. And I'll give you more dangerous and more dangerous as to get weaker and weaker. Yeah. Well, so, like, I'll give you an example, like the Jackson, Mississippi water crisis, right? Like, we all know why that happened.

Yeah. But, but this is an example of, of, you know, the system just not working anymore. This is a collapse. You know, cities, like, if you go bankrupt personally, right, like Pete's diner and hash shop, you know, hash joint where there's eggs and bacon and hash browns, you know, gets destroyed in COVID and pizza as well, I'm bankrupt and I'm going to do something else now. That, you know, that diner joint, it'll be, you know, Muhammad's. a lotful place because there's a commercial kitchen with seating and stuff and someone else to take it over and you know the resources to get reallocated and you'll lick your wounds and go do something else places don't go bankrupt like oh well we're just going to fold up jackson

mississippi and move somewhere else no it's just going to get worse in jackson it's just like it's going to go bankrupt by not providing things like water like sewer like traffic enforcement like it like as as they let lose ability to do certain things they're just not going to get done and that's going to make things really difficult in some places and present a bunch of opportunities and others and you know depending on where you are in your circumstances the those things are going to change but you're seeing you're seeing that collapse already happened so like Memphis for instance Memphis tripled in size, physical size.

Like, you know, it went from, you know, one sheet of paper size to three sheets of paper sized, well, maintaining the same population, because that's how much people spread out from 1970 to like 2010. And it's just falling apart because there's not enough people there to maintain that, that level of infrastructure. as these this sprawl kind of comes out it just it's inherently fragile

and it doesn't return on investment so you know where you live and how you live the circumstance is going to change for each individual person so I don't have I don't have like a

this is what you need to do prescription but I just think about that like is is living you know, two months out of a year in your car, a sane way to live? Or is he going to take like a pay cut of, you know, $20,000 and work a laptop job? Yeah.

And be like, oh, well, I'm never, I'm never driving anywhere ever again in my life. You know, I'm going to spend time with my life and my kids. You know. Unfortunately, when I lived in the Atlanta area, in order to do that, in order to not spend that two months out of my year in the car, I actually moved close. to the city so that I would have, even if I worked in the city, it would be a shorter drive, but I went and found a job outside of the city, so I never had to deal with, you know, while somebody who was coming in the opposite direction, you know, driving the same distance would be in their car an hour. I was in my car 10 minutes. So getting out of the,

I solved one problem and introduced another. So really the only way, to solve those problems is to get the hell out of cities and get that laptop job. It really is. I mean, at this point, I talked to a lot of people who would rather make less money and live somewhere where they didn't have to deal with all of this than keep making the kind of money they're making being close to a city and just getting out. I mean, I'm in a fairly, I'm in a college town right now with a one-tenth, of the population of the Atlanta area.

But, I mean, we're looking at something that's less, that's 5% of the population than where I am right now. So it's just trying to get smaller and trying to get smaller and smaller while being able to still be able to drive to a hospital pretty quickly and possibly get to an airport within two hours. Well, and those are all calculations. Digital scuba have to make. And, you know, as long as that small town is, like, near a railhead or on a navigable body of water, who cares, right?

Because, you know, a lot of those places actually have been ignored. You know, the entire upstate Niagara Canal Network is basically just a tourist trap now. But at one time, it was the vital economic heart of America. You know, if you think about it, the Mississippi basin goes from navigable, from Great Falls, Montana to Pittsburgh and a substantial way up in Nebraska there's a there's an actually a port in Oklahoma that goes down to the Gulf of Mexico um between that inland ocean of the Great Lakes that goes literally halfway across the continent you you have incredibly cheap water transportation between the Erie Canal and all these other places.

So as long as you're on something, as long as you're near something that's just got like rail or water transport, that's the place that's going to thrive in the future. Is these all these places that are utterly dependent on diesel trucking and highways, you know, if the highways fall apart and aren't really well maintained, And those big trucks don't very, very well when the roads aren't well maintained. They break really quickly. And that, you know, if the truck can't get to your Walmart because the roads are so bad, your Walmart's going to empty really damn fast.

So find one of these places that's not so dependent on the way things got built from 1960 to 2010 or 2008 and start building these alternatives. You know, half the battle is knowing you have a problem. If you're listening to this program, you're sufficiently self-aware to realize that things aren't, things are not, you know, well in the kingdom of Denmark. And I hope I've given you some tools to kind of evaluate where you live and how you live so that, you know, you can actually get a positive return in investment. You know, is that $20,000 a year worth all that time in the car?

It wouldn't be to me, you know, it's certainly not any kind of, you know, your health goes down, you know, down rapidly. You're eating nothing but McDonald's and, you know, a Taco Bell and, you know, I spend it any time, you know, how do you even, you know, have a social life? How do you have friends? How do you have, you know, let alone with family? So, and that's pretty typical all over America, you know. it's not just not just Atlanta I mean Atlanta's particularly bad but that's Los Angeles and that's Seattle

and that's Houston Texas and you know Orlando Jacksonville you know there's a lot of these places they're all terrible like that and they're all designed not just designed to make you politically impotent and

suck your life away and as much as it let as much fun as podcasts are that they're not really much compensation for just spending 10 hours a week in a car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, and 20.

And just, and also, just because somebody has a podcast doesn't mean that they're not doing things in real life. Just letting you know, just not going to let you know what, those of us who are smart enough, even those of us who have been stupid enough to use their real names, I'm not going to let you know what we're doing in real life. So, you know, I understand if, uh, you know, you know, I understand if, uh, you know, If I say, if I make a comment and someone's like, hey, you don't know what I'm doing in real life. And I'll be like, well, maybe we would talk privately and compare some notes.

But people need to get off the internet and start doing things in real life. I've been, that's what I've been doing for the past, took the time this week to really look towards trying to improve my situation, situation with the ones I love. So, you know, I. I do appreciate. I appreciate this message. I've had a white paper on what a colony would look like for a while now. And I just haven't really, really, I've shown some friends and they've liked it and everything. Did I, are we sympathetic on that? Is there anything I missed you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're pretty damn close. Yeah. I mean, I have a little more, a little more detail, like the thing I mentioned about finance and things like that. But yeah, you know, it's, you know, it's one of those things.

that I'm going to clean up one of these days. I stole it from somebody else, and I just, it was shared with me from another group from a telegram group. And I was like, oh, well, I'm going to rework this and, you know, rework some of the language here, fix some of the spelling and everything. But, yeah. And, and, I mean, obviously, you know, men, collectively men, you know, from Vladivostok to Lisbon, this European development pattern of Dunbar's number were the villages and then neighborhoods and towns that were that same Dunbar's number and then that you know the iterative process of camps to villages to towns to small cities to big cities you know like always you know the

neighborhood stayed that Dunbar's number size this is how people were meant to live you can look at Alexander and you can see that same pattern from all the way from Vladivostok Russia to Lisbon, Portugal and even into all the way up to say Chicago in the United States, the older cities are like this, you're going to be happier. You're going to be healthier. There's going to be a lot better things in your life. And you don't have to start with this, you know, huge thing. Again, it could start with something as small as the gym.

It could start with something as small as, you know, one of you guys has a van and your wives get together and you all go to Costco where you split a quarter of a cow from a farmer. it doesn't have to be you know all of these things ideally it would be this is how people are meant to live this is how god created is to live but it can start small and once once you get the ball rolling you just see how much better things certain things are so you know go do that you know Alexander had an imperium but he also had a he also had small imperiums within the imperium and that can that's the way this needs, it looks like it's going to need to be built. It's going to be a need to be built

from small and push its way out. And I think that's really the only way, the only way out of this at this point absent a Caesar. And I don't, I don't even know that a Caesar who was willing to do what needed to be done could actually get done what needed to be done at this point because the snake has, the snake doesn't even have a head. So it makes a hydro look, look uncomplicated. You know, I mean, there's a million and one different lavers of power and we control almost none of them. And, you know, and you might not think so, you know, those laptop jobs, right? So if you're living somewhere techie, right, and you're making 200 grand a year doing tech stuff in Austin, Texas or Silicon Valley or Seattle or Boston or something, and you say, you know what, I'll take a $150,000 a year pay cut. If you let me work remote, and you move to rural Iowa, that $150,000 goes 10 times farther than it would in Boston.

Yeah, I mean, 100%. It's just being, what are you willing to do in order to not only make your life better, but, you know, the lives of the people you care about, the people under your stead, it's just, it's, and I just don't know how anyone can live in a big city at this point. And even if they're making, you know, incredible money and think that it's, it's sustainable. It just seems you'd have to be blind to it, especially people who think like we do. I think you'd have to be blind to it at this point. And, yeah, I just, people are going to have to drop that individual liberty thing and come together and, you know, understand that you can have your individual liberty in your house, but you're going to have to come together with people to protect that individual liberty. And you're going to have to sacrifice a little bit of it. Now, Hoppa even talks about that. Hoppa even talked about it when he talked about his covenant. communities was um you're going to you go ahead can i just hit hit on that for just one second yeah

okay liberty as such and you know like you've listened to you know glenbeck or whatever he used to be pretty good someone someone took him to the top of mountain and showed him what's up and he you know he he calmed down quite a bit oh he was great he was a big influence on me before i found libertarianism i used to listen to him when he was still on the radio oh yeah well he's still is on the radio but when he was just on the radio we were talking about Soros and somebody showed him what was up and he quickly went oh

and probably didn't want to get you know have an accident of some sort anyway if you listen to those guys and for the most part like the people we want to reach are those guys the John Hannity Glenn Beck

whatever type listeners they're always talking about freedom liberty freedom liberty freedom liberty freedom to what is the question you got to have freedom freedom to what freedom to be on your own land you know

freedom to raise your family or freedom to you know mutilate children and do non-reproductive sexual stuff so freedom freedom to what and you know

Americans love like the little house stories that's just a story of a family of being unable to take advantage of the division of labor and being poor as a result right like this whole individual homestead thing is stupid um in european people have always lived in villages that were like a spoke in a wheel as opposed to you know individual plots it's not a healthy way to to live but freedom to do what freedom to uh you know freedom is always, always been socially, socially conditional, right? In the middle of Wisconsin territory in 1857. You might live in the middle of the woods all by yourself.

But if you didn't come to church for two or three months, someone would stop by and be like, hey, man, what's going on? Oh, oh, it looks like, you know, this dude's been abusing. his nieces. Well, fellas, guess we're going to impose some order on this sort of, like, you know, freedom to do what? And, and this, you know, you got to sleep sometime. And so in order to be secure, which is a prerequisite to being free, you have to be able to have some sort of security arrangement that requires some other dude, being like,

yeah, okay, well, we'll do this mutual insurance thing. And you'll, you'll watch over me while I sleep. and vice versa. And your freedom is contingent on me agreeing. Like, this is within the bounds of what I'll mutually insure you for. And, you know, certain things beyond the pale. Like, you're out of the collective insurance group, that mutual manner bond, that's the Anglo-Saxon core of liberty.

And I think a lot of us have lost that idea. Like, well, some, this was all contingent on a group, A guy is going to come in and saying, okay, here's the basics. Here's the rules. And saying, within these rules, you're free. Outside of these rules, we're going to punish you. And too many libertarians, you know, Thomas Jefferson wanted to put hang this and horsa on the seal of the United States. Those guys, they were part of a group, a group of free men, but they were not individual free men.

The idea of individual men being free is a, is ridiculous. because there's no political community with which to act in. There's just him by himself. And, you know, as Sam and Amaran always says, one man, no man. You don't have access to the division of labor. You don't have access to, you know, your children got to get married someday. Where? I presume you want grandkids.

If you want grandkids, you got to interact with other families. If you want access to division of labor, you know, maybe you're a pretty good blacksmith, but you're a lousy farmer. Well, you got to eat. You know, so all of this, this whole hyper individualism is a historical and kind of a sciop, to be honest. I mean, communities are free. Communities are free, not men. well that is yeah i mean it's i've the more i listen to that you know and i hear myself saying it in the past you know individual liberty individual liberty um i i guess i never really gave it

considered what that meant you know and i always i always had this idea of what anarchy would look like. But what anarchy always looked like was a bunch of people around me who believes exactly what I believed. That's what it always was in my head. It was always people who believed what I believed.

Because if you have if you don't have a support system or a structure or a safety net in place, which is something that you can only have when people agree or if people are forced to do it like you have now and it's really not a safety

that everything is going to fall apart everything is everything is you're literally 24 hours away from your quote unquote civilization just falling apart and going into ruin and you know the whole thing you were mentioning about you know in medieval times if you haven't heard you know or in in times past if you haven't heard from somebody you know, in a month or two, when you go there and you find out that they're, that they're abusing like their, you know, their children or whatever, you know, that is something that needs to be handled. And if it's not, if you don't have a society where culturally that is ready, there's a way to handle this, well, then you're just going to, what do you, how can you

stop it? You know, private property. Oh, I can't go on that. I don't care if he could be abusing his children, but it's private property, bro. It's private property. He can do what he wants. And that's literally the argument that you hear. And I'm not only, this isn't only for libertarians. This is for anyone who's, you know, the civic nationalist, the, you know, the conservatives. And they literally don't, their idea of, oh, somebody is, somebody's abusing their kids is to call the police.

the same police that enforced drag queen story hour the same British police that let you know thousands and thousands of girls get abused and rather them in all over Northern England those police? Yeah yeah the same the same police that allowed Jeffrey Epstein

to operate do whatever he wanted for decades yeah what was his name in Belgium Dutro I mean yeah Yeah, these police, these are the people that you want to rely upon rather than your neighbor who is going, your neighbors who are going to get together and go, well, you need to put a stop to this.

I'd much rather have that than a quote, unquote, court of law or a private law society or something like that. Yeah, just, it's all, it just all seemed once you start, once you start, I mean, all you have to do is look, even. even if you don't want to start seeing the world for what it is and, you know, see the world, how we see it. Look at the last two and a half years. Where is your libertarianism now? Where's your civic nationalism now? Look at the regime in charge. There's nothing you can do to defeat that other than to figure out a way to mitigate it.

Right. I mean, look at it. Okay, so I'm a hick who lives in the middle of nowhere. I don't really leave my home much. I don't participate in politics much. If I know the Kamala how Kamala Harris got her start and I know how Kamala Harris got her start and I know that you know how Kamala Harris got her start, then everybody knows. Every time some foreign dictatories shakes her hand, they know what she did for a living when she was Willie Brown's girlfriend. You know, every intelligence agency in the face of the planet knows.

The Japanese know, the Chinese, no, the Chinese, no. You guarantee the Israelis know, the French, no, the British know. Everybody knows. If I know it, everybody knows it. So you've got a system where, you know, I don't know who the Democratic majority leader is now, but you have a lady whose husband is apparently a long-term closet case, who's probably been drinking a bottle of chardonnay a day for the last, 25 years

in charge of the most powerful woman in American politics you've got a brain clearly dementia patient president you've got a vice president who's visibly dumb and got her start

how she was that delicately her affections were available for sale um right if this is the system that's been set up and you know the head of the republicans not that long ago was was an actual known pedophile job molester you think the cops that are set up by that system are going to be the kind of people that you want with guns in charge of anything in your

society in a society that's decent are you crazy well i think When I look back on some of the things that I thought in the past and I see what some people are saying now, I think that there are a lot of people who are crazy. And there's a lot of people who are insane with how they want things to be run, what how they want, you know, they have, they want things to be run a certain way. And then they have no, no plan on how to do it or to even get around the fact that the regime in power right now is their mortal enemy and wants them dead, which is why I think a lot of them just, you know,

embraced a trans thing. And it's like, well, I want them to just, you know, maybe if I embrace that, they'll like me a little bit, you know, and I don't want to hurt people's feelings. I'm, you know, done with people's feelings, you know, I don't want to start sound like Ben Shapiro. Yeah, because Ben Shapiro is not my friend. and not anyone listening to this as friend.

But I don't really care about how people feel. I don't care the people who... The feds who are monitoring, he's their buddy, but... Other than that. Yeah. Other than that. Yeah, I have no... I have no earthly idea why anyone would think that him,

and I don't know why anyone ever thought that Jordan Peterson was their friend. I mean, I... Mr. U.N. report. Yeah. I mean, I like looked at the, I bought the guy's book and I looked at it and I'm like, okay, so this is basically a self-help book for young, for millennials. I'm not a millennial. So I don't really get what the whole point of this is. I had a dad growing up, I don't really need this book. And the, you know, I mean, you know, I remember someone had said on, um, Someone has said on Twitter, I really like the direction Pete shows going in. I just question some of his alliances now. And I'm like, who should I be aligned with now? Who should be my friend?

Who should I trust right now? You're going to have other people pick your friends for you? and is that individual, is that individual liberty? I would say people who don't lie to you. That's a good start. That'd be nice. Yeah. And people who don't, you know, people who don't go to other countries, especially a small

one in the Middle East that's, and, you know, basically a socialist, ethno state. And, you know, oh, I'm sorry, the only democracy in the region and, you know, our greatest ally. I mean, a fascist ethno state with a wall? Yeah. Like, genetic requirements for citizens. Yeah, like get and give people free and give people free, um, give people free houses or that sometimes they build and sometimes they just take from other people. Gee, I mean, there was a, there was a group in the, in the mid-20th century who got accused of doing

less than this, less than this actually. Jabotinsky, you know, Jabotinsky was like straight up like stole all of his ideas from the he, you should not be named and just plopped them down. Like the Irgun is, you know, like a Rahm Emanuel, right? The former White House chief of staff, his dad was in the yeargoon, you know, partially responsible for the King David Hotel bombing, if I'm not mistaken. Like, you know, these people are willing to use power and they run everything. So you can talk out there, but individual liberty.

Okay, but what are you willing to use power for? And even if it's just something as simple as like, hey, man, you know, kick in 50 bucks a month for the gym that we have set up in community and don't go to, you know, Globo Gym where they promote weird stuff. Yeah. Or, yeah, they'll kick in, they'll kick, they won't kick in 50 bucks for the gym because, you know, it just seems to, I don't know, I don't want to just be around people who think like me and believe like I do and everything. We need to be out there talking to people and trying to convince, convince them of what? You know, it's just, it's like somebody on Facebook. Someone on the Facebook was like, well, we just need to educate people on what? Educate people who are addicted to KFC and porn.

Educate people with what? Like, in your pocket, you have a supercomputer that has more power than the entire space program that brought people to the moon. Every book ever written. And what do people do with it? Watch pornography and play Candy Crush. you're showing your age with the candy crush thing I'm an old man okay

you know but that's what people okay TikTok they order DoorDash and do TikTok I don't know what the kids are doing these days that's awesome I got to get out of here

I got to go do some stuff you have anything. Just a link to my telegram channel if you would be so kind and sure. And you know, I thank you so much for having me. Like I said, I'm a big fan of yours and all the work you've been doing. I, you know, it really takes some intellectual courage. I think which, you know, moral courage is the biggest deficit we have in the world right now. And anybody that's shown some, I can, I respect quite a bit. I really, really respect all the work you've been doing. And I'm just really grateful that you thought it was worth talking to me.

So thank you so much for having me, man. Well, I appreciate it. And I also appreciate your help. And just let everyone know that you've helped me get a couple of guests on here that people have really, really enjoyed. So that has been, uh, that was work that you did for me. And I appreciate it. Happy to help. Thank you.

All right. Take care. Bye. I want to welcome everyone back to the Piquino's show, returning, and a fan favorite, a listener favorite, Dark Enlightenment. How you doing, D? Well, that's very flattering. The listeners of the Pequino's show are some of the smartest people I've ever run across, so to know that I'm held in esteem is a bit flattering. But I just want to say thank you for having me back, Pete.

It's a pleasure, and I am continually amazed at the high-quality level of the show. So, you know, the Aristotelian talk with Jeremy was fantastic. The stuff with the end block was, I was listening to that just last night. I was riveted, you know, completely on point with both those. I really, really enjoy the program. And everyone should, you know, go to a free man be on the wall slash support and kick in five bucks because this is worth way more than your cable. I appreciate that.

I will say when I, when these come out your episodes and I put them on Odyssey, those I can the amount of views I get when you're on the show on Odyssey is like triple quadruple what like normal gets you know so yeah and then people are just like

that have that dude on all the time our roundtable that we did with with Jose Niño and Charles that was a lot of fun yeah people are like you guys got to do that like once a month well once a month might be a bit much. If you guys are kicking sufficiently into the donate page and Pete can start

kicking me 10 bucks an episode. We'll start talking maybe. That's awesome. Well, I appreciate the kind words. Right back at you. And we're here today because let's talk about something practical, something that anyone who I bought a house in the last year, actually six months. And as I drive around and I was looking at the market, I started to notice things. I also started to notice things about the rental market because all of this is affected. And I know that one of the things that you concentrate on more than anything is property, is real estate, is land development, things like that. So I think we're seeing prices in the neighborhood of what we saw in the 2000s leading up to the

crisis doesn't necessarily mean a crisis is coming, but, you know, history does help to define how we look at things and how we can judge what's going on. So, um, past past this prolog, as I say, and if you see similar conditions, don't, you know, expect similar outcomes, human nature being what it is and, you know, that, no one can say, oh, this is, this, this is fine, you know, The dog and burning house meme, this is probably bad. We don't know exactly how to play out, but it's probably bad. Well, where to start? Well, if somebody's looking at housing, say, I don't know,

let's talk about places that are historically high prices like California, New York, places like that. Why are they seeing, why are the prices just absolutely through the roof at this point? well if you would i i sent you a link to the charles hugh smith article but basically this is you know put on my bowtie back for a second um even though i'm no longer a libertarian there's a lot of libertarian analysis that's very very important particularly when it comes to things like central banking and we had what a good decade from 2008 to what 2020 where basically interest rates were near zero yeah like like you know like you know like

Like interest rates ought to be, you know, if you put, do your basic Austrian analysis, ought to be a function of how much savings there are. But there was no savings. No one had any savings. So why are these interest rates so low? You know, it's not like everyone's sitting on $15,000 in cash, you know, just looking to loan money out and money's super cheap. It's, it's absurd.

I just pulled it up on the screen. Yeah. But maybe we could read it. I don't know. But basically, right, we had this completely. the artificial bubble created the everything bubble, right? It was the 2008, you know, totally government-induced. And I believe Tom Woods did the best job in, I think it was meltdown, what caused that.

Yeah, yeah. And I remember reading that back in the day. And then, of course, once you understand both Tom and then Steve Saylor's analysis, Tom didn't really go into the racial aspect of it, but that was one of the major causes, right, of that. but we've had this 10-year period where basically you know people were just chasing returns and chasing returns and there was there was no interest rates was zero so you know CDs just you could put money in the stock market or you could buy real estate and that's it that's all the only places you could get any money back and so we had this huge inflation of bubble and

and Charles C. Smith, it's a great guy, but unless you understand both the financial side of this, of the money printer, and a couple other things, mass immigration, particularly of non-whites, and the suburban housing experiment requiring more and more land than, you know, their old neighborhoods in New York City, that I'm sure you remember in Queens, in Brooklyn, in upper Manhattan, you know, where a thousand people could live pretty reasonably, you know, I mean, maybe not.

Yeah, our rent, when I was growing up, my parents got an apartment in the Bronx. There's a two-bedroom, one bath, and it was still in a, I mean, it was a medium Bronx neighborhood. There are some really nice sections of the Bronx. There are some really bad sections of the Bronx. This one was sort of in the middle. And, I mean, the two-bedroom one bath, I think they got it in 1973. It was $211 a month rent. Right.

Well, I mean, inflation since it's probably ridden that to $1,000, but still. But so we have this perfect storm of increasing diversity, land use being what it is that instead of, instead of, instead of having density with neighbors that you could actually live with, you have, you have to, you know, price drive till you price out the undesirable elements, which is something that most people won't talk about, which, I mean, I will, and I'm one of the few people that will admit, like, at the root of the housing crisis is a racial problem and this fed monetary policy. And the thing about it, why I'm so upset by it and why I wanted to talk is this is on purpose.

This is not like something that like, oh, this just accidentally happened. Maybe in, you know, 2010 or 2011, you could go, oh, shoot, man, housing prices are going crazy because of these low interest rates. We should do something about that. No, they let it ride for years and partly because, you know, boomers are wanting to retire. And boomers, you know, Molyneux years ago talked about how boomers want mass immigration because it drives at the price of their housing. And, you know, they're going to retire with millions of dollars. right never mind the millions of dollars won't buy you anything but uh they're all these issues are related to stuff that we talk about on the dissident right and only people who are willing

to touch those third rails of race and immigration and you know financial chicanery and who's behind it are willing are going to actually so get to the heart of the problem so yeah i would say that um and i'll start reading this and then you can stop me and you can comment on anything. Libertarian analysis is great, but they're not going to touch the underlying issues, the underlying issues of race, of immigration, things like that,

because it's just not acceptable. You're not judging people as individuals and that kind of thing. So just the typical de-radicalization is someone like me who was pretty much a racist my whole life, who, not racist, but, you know, saw that there were differences between, you know, every group and then became a libertarian and was like, oh, now I have to judge everybody. It's like a de-radical. I mean, becoming a libertarian is like de-radicalizing. They think they're like they're radicals.

They're not radicals at all. I mean, saying that you want the government, you know, we need to abolish the government, you know, saying something that you're not going to be able to ever accomplish. That's not going to happen in your lifetime in a lifetime of your children, their children, children, children, children, children's children. you know, 400 generations, that's not something radical. That's why you never see them get cracked down upon unless they do something stupid with guns or something like that, or they do something to fuck with the money supply, like, you know, put up Bitcoin ATMs and things like that. But, you know, the people who talk about the real issues of race and, you know, and demographics

and immigration, they get fucked with, you know, so. Exactly. No. All right. You want me to start reading us? Go for it. All right. So he wrote, here's why housing is unaffordable for the bottom 90%. This is a direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that gave the wealthiest households the means to bid up housing to the point. It's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And you can just hear libertarians going, oh, boo-hoo, work harder. Learn a code. Um, the superficial conclusion that the reason why housing is

unaffordable is a scarcity of housing misses a key dynamic in supply and demand. Who has too much money and where do they park it? The reality is obvious, but conventional analysts don't see it largely because it doesn't fit the approved narratives. Here's why housing is unaffordable to the bottom 90%. One, the U.S. economy is a bubble economy that funnels the vast majority of gains into the top 10% who own 90% of all income-producing assets. Bubbles create astounding sums of unearned wealth and distribute it very asymmetrically.

The already wealthy who inherited assets or acquired them when they were cheap, reap most of the gains. Please examine the first two charts below to see how this works. The first chart shows that the top 10% owned between 85% and 90% and 90% of the top 10% and 95% of all income-producing assets, business equity, stocks, bonds, and other securities, and non-home real estate, i.e., second homes, and income-generating properties. The second chart shows that household net worth concentrated in the top 10% soared far above GDP in the bubble economy, in effect creating $55 trillion out of thin air and handing 90% of it to the

wealthy. Recall that net worth is assets minus liabilities such as debt. So this is what's left after subtracting liabilities slash debts. The less wealthy tend to have fewer assets and more debts. So someone may hold title to a million dollar home, but if their mortgage is $900,000, their net worth is only $100,000. Also note that the family home doesn't generate income other than for the owner of the mortgage, to the homeowner, it is an expense, not an income source. Turning to the second chart, we see that if household net worth had tracked the general economy's expansion, i.e. GDP, gross domestic product, it would be less than $90 trillion. Thanks to the bubble economy, it's $145.9 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve's database.

That $55 trillion above the real-world economy's actual expansion is an artifact of the bubble economy, an artificial construct of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented manipulation of interest rates and monetary stimulus. Note that in the previous housing and stock market bubble, circa 2006 to 8, household net worth only exceeded GDP by $5 trillion, a nice chunk of change to $1,000,000. to be sure, but in order of magnitude smaller than the gargantuan $55 trillion in bubble wealth created in the current central bank everything bubble. As the chart below of housing bubbles 1 and 2 shows, the Fed's unprecedented stimulus inflated housing bubbles number one and number two, the stock market bubble took off around 1995 with the introduction of the Netscape browser and housing's assent. lagged a few years beginning in the late 1990s. The chart is the Case Schiller National Home

Price Index. But housing bubble number one really only took off after the dot-com stock market bubble popped and the Fed aggressively lowered interest rates. The Fed funds rate fell from 6.5% in summer 2000 to 1% in summer 2003. It remained in a historically low 3% well into 2005 when the housing bubble entered into its rocket booster phase of euphoria. The Fed eventually normalized rates returning to 5% by mid-2000, but as the housing bubble began popping, the Fed quickly started cutting rates again, dropping the Fed funds rate to near zero by December 2008.16%.

the well three yeah got um and there there was another chart in the chat that um a median house price versus rent or something we'll have to pull that up it stayed that way for 10 years think about that for just a second if you are a core millennial right i'm i'm an old like i'm right on the edge of extra millennial i'm 40 in my middle 40s. If you're 10 years younger than me, if you're 35 years old, right, you graduated high school and, oh, I don't know, 2003, 2004, 2005, something like that, right as you're getting your life started for the first 10 years of your, like, you know, from 20 to 30 or from

25 to 35 when you're supposed to be establishing yourself, meeting a spouse, getting married, having your first kids, the economy completely screwed you. 1.168 like like you know at least at least in like completely corrupt oligarchies like a like Bahrain or UAE or whatever like they just admit like hey

like we're the we're the ruling family and we're in charge we're just like all the money is going to come to us and you're screwed they admit that but if you know in America we're supposed to be like oh it's a free and democratic republic where my vote counts as much as Bill Gates is how am I supposed to get a start in life when you know you're screwing with the the money supply like this to the benefit of the other garden yeah and yeah because wages didn't go up I mean if wages kept pace with you know I mean you know wages remained flat I've been effectively flat since the 70s I think I

I saw this, I heard this the other day on a podcast and I can't remember which one it was, but it was, it wasn't one of ours. It was more of a mainstream podcast. And it said that in 2000, the average median income was $30,000 and the average home price was $120,000. And as of 2022, the median income is $40,000 and the average home price is $40,000. And the average home price is $120,000. 410,000. Sounds about right. Like, like, like, for four years of, you know, median, like, you know, the, the average house is four years of your median wage, right?

Like, if you just paid off four years, you know, like, oh, hey, over 30 years, you can take 10% of what you make and 20% of what you make and pay it towards housing. Now, it's. what 10 times there's no way when i was living when i was still living in atlanta there were houses there were neighborhoods that i knew where there were houses that were built in the 60s and 70s and i never really priced them or anything but you know i had a rough idea how much they cost they started building mcmansions around them and you know little and they were little ones like there would only be five in like a cul-de-sacolice

sack. And they were like, oh, starting at $900,000. This isn't very far outside of Atlanta. You're maybe breaking the Atlanta city line by 10 minutes. So this isn't even the suburbs yet. And you're at $900,000. So the home price to income ratio, I just found a chart. from 1953 to 2023 to 2023 this is longterm trends.net and in the 50s it was around 6 and in the housing bubble it was around 7 or 8

and it's backed up to seven or eight now. And in the 50s and 60s, you still had restraints on the money supply through still having some semblance of a gold standard. Yes. Yeah. So that's how I remember my family in Pennsylvania telling me that they bought their houses

in the 60s for like 15, thousand dollars and twenty thousand dollars yeah yeah while they were you know on a coal miner's salary yeah yeah so and the and the wife didn't work yeah so yeah yeah it's six six point three one in nineteen fifty three got down to as low as you know three point seven in the late sixties and you know it's back above seven now so Anyway, and I was going to mention those $900,000 houses that were popping up. Those were on like a quarter of an acre. Yeah, there's a quarter of it.

You're not getting any land with that. You're just, it's just a house. It's just like that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Part three of this. The wealth created by the Fed's stock and bond bubbles flowed into housing.

It is not a coincidence. The housing bubble, number one, expanded rapidly from 2000. thousand onward. As the stock market bubble deflated, those who reap the gains sought a new place to park their excess wealth, and with interest rates falling due to the Fed, housing was the place to put that bubble generated capital to work. Mortgage rates hit historic lows, and the resulting bubble was self-reinforcing, simply securing the purchase rights to an as-yet unbuilt house with a small down payment could generate astounding gains in a few months. I remember being in South Florida, and a friend of mine bought a house in January.

And this was at the ending of 2004. He had bought a house in January for $165,000 and in April sold it for $325. That's what the market was doing back then. He doubled his money. Yeah, just about. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That's insane.

Yeah. In four months. I bought a condo and I sold it two months later just because we weren't really, didn't, weren't really familiar with the neighborhood. And it turned out the neighborhood wasn't that great. So I just turned around like two months later and flipped it. And we made 30% on the sale. Yeah. It was.

Yeah. Right. But again, you know, what if you're a young person who's getting started? Yeah, yeah. I mean, those days are gone until somebody does something, basically. All right. Financial fraud, oops. I mean, innovations added icing to the Fed's bubble cake, liar loans, zero-down payment

mortgages, adjustable rate mortgages, deceptive packaging of toxic mortgages into highly rated mortgage-backed securities, et cetera, fueled the bubble, bubbles, final blow off top. Massive sustained Fed stimulus inflated housing bubble number two, a bubble that went ballistic in 2020 as the Fed engaged an unprecedented stimulus, doubling its balance sheet to $9 trillion, dropping the Fed's fund rate from a meager 2.4% back to zero and boosting its portfolio of mortgage-backed securities to $2.6 trillion. Fed stimulus also inflated bubbles in stocks and bonds, as interest,

rates fell to near zero, bonds soared in value, and the S&P 500 index of stocks rocketed from 666, ironic, in early 2009 to 3,380 in early 2020, a five-fold increase. The vast majority of these massive gains accrued to the top 10%, roughly 13 million households. In parentheses, there are 1,3,3,000. 31 million households in the U.S., so basically, yeah, 10%. The top 10% includes the financial nobility, billionaires in those worth hundreds of millions, the top 0.01%, the financial aristocracy households worth 10 millions,

the top 0.5%, the wealthy net worth in the many millions, the top 1%, and the upper middle class, the bottom 9% of the top 10%. Historically speaking, the upper middle class has often owned more than one property, a vacation cabin on the lake or beach, raw land held for investment, or a rental property. With interest rates locked by the Fed at unprecedented lows, the 12 million households in this class who had seen their stock bond and property portfolios zoom to staggering heights tapped their newfound wealth and ample credit to go on a housing real estate buying spree.

Recall that housing was still affordable in the mid to late 1990s. Mechanics and librarians could still buy a modest home in a good neighborhood in the San Francisco Bay Area and many other now unaffordable metro areas. When the housing, when housing bubble number one finally popped, housing was very briefly affordable, circa 2012. Five, many frugal investment savvy upper white middle class households acquired properties when they were still affordable. It's not at all uncommon for families to own multiple income properties in addition to the family home. Vacation homes bought decades ago at low prices were converted to short-term vacation rentals for part of the year, generating

income when the family wasn't using the home. Nearby cabins were snapped up for investment rentals. The upper middle class also inherited properties and other assets. Asets, for example, houses, bought decades ago for 30 or 40,000 have stored to 1 million valuations in many metro areas or even 2 million in desirable neighborhoods. Selling a home for a million plus leaves more than enough capital to buy multiple properties in less pricey regions. Unfortunately for the upper middle class, the financial aristocracy and wealthy already owned the most desirable properties

and the most desirable areas. So the upper middle class lowered their sites to what was still affordable, and this has driven gentrification. as those with excess capital and credit seek a place to park their wealth that will rise in value. Neighborhoods that were once affordable quickly became unaffordable at the bottom 90% as the top 10% bid prices to the moon. 7. The immense wealth created by the bubble economy hasn't just enriched a few billionaires. It's created an entire class of wealthy numbering in the millions.

When 10 million households have the wealth and credit to buy houses beyond the family home they live in, that's a very large pool of buyers, buyers who have seen their initial purchases soaring in value, incentivizing additional purchases of housing. 8. Housing is priced on the margin, so a relative handful of purchases can push the valuation of an entire neighborhood to the moon. Compared to stocks and bonds, housing is illiquid. Transactions are few and take months to settle.

The last five sales will adjust the valuation. via appraisals seeking nearby comparables of the surrounding hundred homes. Corporations and the super wealthy have always been on a massive buying sprees, staffing up hundreds or thousands of houses as rental properties. The $55 trillion in excess bubble wealth is always seeking a higher return, and as rents have soared, see the chart below, rental housing has been seen as a safe and profitable haven for the trillion. millions of dollars floating around seeking a low risk high return as the last chart shows

the current housing bubble is far more extreme than housing bubble number one it took a much shorter period of time to reach far higher heights of over-evaluation this is why the bottom 90% can't afford a house the bubble economy created 55 trillion out of thin air and 90% of that went to the top 10%, a class historically attuned to owning real estate for income and investment. The bottom 90% skimmed a few bucks in the past 25 years of the bubble economy, but nowhere near enough to compete with corporations, the financial aristocracy, or the upper middle class. This is the direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that give the wealthiest households the means to

bid up housing to the point it's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And I'll make sure to link this in the show notes so people can, if you're listening, you can at least look it over and everything. As more and more people are renting, right? Like you buy a house in a decent neighborhood, right? And you're just a middle class person and your mortgage is you can afford it. But one of those upper middle class people that, had, maybe had the wherewithal to get in, you know, to, you know, climb the ladder, as it were.

Moves out of that nice, middle-class neighborhood that, you know, your parents bought for $50,000 in 1987, right? And they take that middle-class house and they start renting it. If you rent it out to Section 8s, it's guaranteed income. I mean, who cares? You don't live there anymore. Who cares if, you know, the people who live there that you rent to are terrible? I've personally, I've personally known many people who take advantage of that and get that Section 8 check every month. Right.

You're guaranteed the check. No, never going to be late. It's always on time. And, you know, it doesn't matter to you if, like, the people who live, live in your house are playing ranchero music three in the morning you don't live there anymore who cares about you know like you don't know your neighbors you're not friends with them you don't have any solidarity with them they're not your kith and kin that you care about you moved you moved up to the east side you know into the apartment in the sky you made it and

it it's right so as that suburban model that requires vests of land and just eats landing huge chunks because the roads are huge and wide the houses are far apart right sprawls out more than the land is required

it costs more materials cost more all of this other stuff that I've talked about endlessly elsewhere I don't really I mean I can recapitulate that if you want me to but I don't feel I need to you've got this

doubling effective, like, okay, not only is the process more expensive, but you've got to move. If you have a family and the guy next door moves out and puts in a bunch of Section 8 stuff and there's, you know, cartel dudes with face tattoos playing Ranch Arrow at 3 in the morning, you've got to move. If you've got kids, you've got to leave that spot. You've got to go. You can't have your kids around those dudes. I mean, you'd be insane to have, have a white daughter living next door to a bunch of Section 8 cartel guys.

It's insane. So you've got this, this, maybe you sell at a loss. Maybe, maybe you, you know, your quality of life is significantly degraded. Now, what moving is awful. hate moving it's it's it's among the most stressful things you can do right i mean you just you just get done with a move and it was and even with i wanted to die i mean i like literally i've i've already decided i'm dying in this house yeah you just don't want to do it it's terrible um and and you know you weren't this was like okay um i got a great wife we got a great job

I can live everything where I want. I'm moving someplace. I'm excited about living. It's going to be great. We're going to have all these positive things to come of it. And it was still a pain in the neck. It was still awful. I remember,

you know, like we talk privately. Oh, I got to go find, you know, going to find an end table. Oh, shoot me now.

It took 35 minutes to find the right end tables. I don't want to kill myself. Right. It's terrible. It's awful. And what you've got to do. You need, you know,

you need certain things for your house. house. Well, imagine going through that entire process. But instead of all these positive accruals of like I'm going to live in some base homogenous someplace safe, someplace where I'm going to get to do things that I want to do. And with all these, you know, awesome plans that you have that are frankly kind of cool. I look forward to visiting you someday. It sounds awesome. The idea that like you're forced out because like I can't live here. right left behind in rosdale this is uh the book or imagine to call back to you know our series that we did on um uh race worn high school imagine you're one of those folks living in that neighborhood in brooklyn it was brooklyn right um like the school was right on the border between brooklyn and queens if i remember right right imagine right imagine you're one of those in brooklyn at the time you've just got to leave. You're literally being chased out by, you know, insane, violent, non-white people

wielding machetes. You got to take whatever loss you can and move. And it's going to cost you more time and it's stressful. And all of these things, right, these all of these increased costs that just make it more and more and more difficult. And so, you know, many years ago when I was new to all these sorts of ideas, I was like, I got to tell these people, the truth is like the bell curve is a thing and and that's why there's this this problem here and then oh my gosh everybody knows lindsay graham knows camoia harris knows everybody knows all of the true things that we talk about and they base their policy on it that you think that the people who are facilitating the invasion of lampadusa right now don't know that like bring 10,000 single African men into a little tiny island with like 7,000 people on it, a lot of whom are old folks, isn't going to cause a huge number of problems. And probably mostly criminals being led out of a prison somewhere.

Oh, yeah, of course, just like the Mario Boatlift, right? Like, you know that 80% of the Turkish refugees in Germany don't work. so why right the german the german state knows that they publish the data so why are they the one saying oh well we need these people for the economy no you don't you know that they don't work i mean if if 80% of the time pete you're like a complete drunk jerk but 20% of the time you're great as a neighbor right yeah are you a good neighbor or not. I've had those neighbors

before. Right. And it's awful. It's terrible. You know, Atlanta is physically enormous. Yeah. And it's physically enormous because people have been moving one exit down the highway from bad neighbors for 50 years. Or no.

Atlanta probably, 70 years. Yeah, 70. Right. So at what point one of the things the precipity of the housing crisis in 2008 was the war in Iraq caused a massive

spiking fuel prices and people just couldn't afford the drive you know the drive until you qualify thing that happened in you know like wait a minute you know something that's tenable you know living in Bakersfield and driving to Los Angeles

it might be tenable at you know a dollar 20 a gallon it is not at 350 or 475 or whatever it got up to back of the day it's just it's not tenable and now we're looking at you know four and five dollar gas again and these massive housing prices and you have to ask yourself you know this is on purpose when you flood the country with tens of millions of illegals right is anyone in eagle past Texas like oh this is fine this is we're going to be able to stay here we're going to be able to build life here or are they like we need to get the hell out of here

you know look at what the COVID thing it's going to be millions and I mean not to get too paranoid but it is precisely that middle class upper middle class person with a million dollars I mean you know oh my gosh you know what you or I could do with a million dollars

right but it is precisely the person that owns a diner or has a small business where they have access to capital that was the you know the Jeffersonian yeoman class

that was supposed to kind of carry this country and did for you know centuries you know not not that they were had a million dollars

in 1780 or whatever but you know the the um petite bourgeoisie folks that owned

a business maybe had a house had enough money to like reciprocally complain to you know a state representative or a local congressman and and actually get listened to because you know they were able to afford the you know three four or five thousand dollars for the rubber chicken dinner

and complain in his ear and you get enough of those people right you get 500 people you know the middle Alabama small restaurant tourist association where you got 500 dudes who operate barbecue joints and uh hash houses and you know family run pizza places and whatever and they all each of these people's got a million dollars and they can compete with like you know a dude with 500 million dollars you know you get 500 people that they own a real

business well what was the 2020 from you know what was COVID but like oh pizza hut can stay open but you know Joe's pizza down on the corner they have to close right it was just a gigantic transfer from local grocery stores local businesses small restaurants to you know the big guys amazon and walma you know walmazon took over and this whole this whole housing crisis and it's not even just like an america thing right i mean we could look at you know prices in south beach miami or new york or san francisco or what have you it's It's happening in Toronto. It's happening in Vancouver.

It's happening in Paris. It's happening in England. It's happening in London, England. It's happening in Italy. It's happening all over the world because this is a policy of the globalists. I've seen ads for, you know, like a garage in Vancouver for $500,000. A garage, like a garage, like a literal, you know. And so you have to ask yourself, wait a minute, if this is happening all over the world,

every one of these places is getting hit by massive waves of immigration that not only bid up prices just because they're having more people, but they force people out because it's intolerable to live, you know, can you imagine even imagine living in Lampedusa right now? I mean, could you even imagine? No. Would you even let your wife out of the house? No. You'd be planning your exit.

You'd have to leave. You'd have to leave. I mean, it's a wonderful place. I'm sure it's absolutely fantastic. Like, you know, middle of the Mediterranean, beautiful, white beaches, gorgeous weather. I mean, old, beautiful architecture. I'm sure it's a paradise. And just like with Maui, right?

Like all those folks are going to leave and someone's going to buy that property for a song because they're distressed. and then, you know, Oprah Winfrey can be like, well, you know, actually get the riffraff off my beach. Because she has enough juice with the people in charge to actually make it so that, so that, uh, so the nice happens. But what about, what about the poor folks that got displaced? What happens to them? What happens to their kids? Well, you, you sent me that, um, thing in Rocklaw, Poland. Yeah.

They just took an apartment, divided it into 20, five, nine foot by six foot bedrooms, and they're charging everybody $320 a month, U.S. dollars. Yeah, I mean, Poland, Poland, which is, you know, supposed to be based. But, you know, who are they in business with? They're in business with Global Homo. Right. So, Hungary. Now they get to live like Global Homo.

Right. My friends over at the White Papers Institute, if you're actually interested in the new degree of your policy, I can't recommend White Papers, to see Hyman alphan substack. I mean, you know, you should be following Pete substack, but there's many others out there that are awesome that are,

and substacks have been a great platform for our people to tell the truth on. Hungary has one of the largest diasporas in the world. They're importing foreign workers from Asia, South Asia. Instead of going to local Hungarians and being like, hey, come back to,

come back to the homeland. We need workers. back. Right. They're importing. So even like Victor Orban, right? Like based Victor Orban. Right. You know, oh, Greg Abbott's

tough talking governor of Texas. He doesn't take no guff. Like, well, why is he letting in tens of millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where? Asia, Africa, all over Central America. You know, how is that constitutional government? How is How is that the protecting the rights, liberty, and property of Texans to let tens of thousands of people just trump across your land?

I wrote, I wrote a substack yesterday saying one of the most dangerous things in existence right now is the religion of civic nationalism, is that we have to stick to the Constitution. We have to do it. It's what we've done in the past and everything and not realizing that all of those things were set up by. by a, you know, the Constitution was set up by a bunch of oligarchs so that they could subvert it, so that it could enrich them. Do you know who the four richest people in America were in 1776? Who? George Washington.

John Hancock. Charles Carroll of Carrollton. and Philip Schuyler, Alexander Hamilton's father-in-law. I mean, you're people... Pretty sure that's the four. Yeah, it's a religion. It's a religion, and they will not... People still haven't figured out that, you know, like, you know, oh, I'm a staunch conservative.

What are you conserving? What are you conserving? Bro, you can't conserve the girls' bathroom. Yeah, the New Deal. regime? Is that what you're conserving the New Deal regime? Nuremberg by calling leftist Nazis owning

the leftists by calling them Nazis? And right birthright citizenship like birthright citizenship guarantees that none of these people like you just you just destroy Texas

it might take 30 years. They might have to get married and have kids and those kids will be born But those kids won't grow Like with the housing prices the way they are now Those people will be permanent renters Will they ever be not be on Section 8? Of course not. Will they ever not be on SNAP?

Will they ever not be on Medicare or Medicaid? Will they ever be Productive taxpayers? Will they ever be part of that Petit Borgiaz that actually carries America? You know, the people with their own businesses who live you know, without much state dependency.

Of course not. Of course not. And their kids are going to vote accordingly. So what are you doing? This housing crisis that is preventing young people from getting married and having children or living in a secure life or growing assets, this is a policy. This is on purpose. You know, I just saw a, I put a, I put a,

in our private chat. I think that, you know, the national median rent versus annual household income as ratios. So like if they started at zero in 1985, by the time 2023 rolls around, rent goes up like 160%. And housing goes up something like, this is on TikTok. So I don't know, like maybe you could forward it or put it in a little, I don't know how to do any of this link stuff. I'm a complete boomer when it comes to technology, which is kind of funny. But, you know, wages, household income is basically flat, right? And it started to creep up just a little bit in, you know, after the tariffs and Trump's, you

know, rightful understanding of the way things are working, but, you know, incomes up 30% housings of 160%. How are people supposed to live? How are people supposed to live? And so ask yourself the question, well, they know what's happening. You read the financial press. You read the right people. They know what's happening. So what's happening? Like, is this on purpose? Oh, it has to be. There's no other explanation. Yeah. And so the market's going to correct?

How? The guys that cornered the market, the top, you know, not even the top 10%, but the top, you know, 1%. You know, the local shop owner that had a million dollars that was part of that 10% had a house at the lake, had a decent place on the local pizza joint. You know, how's he going to compete with Bill Gates? How is he going to compete with Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk? He's not. So, you know, libertarians, sorry, you're going to have to do something that's like not market-based if you want to correct this imbalance somehow. right yeah because it wasn't a market-based thing in the first place you know who are the richest

people in the world uh Elon Musk got all his money through a government basically he's working for the military industrial complex right doing all the R&D for electric vehicles that the that the deep state wants getting paid for that right Starlink who's the major contractor for all of his SpaceX stuff. That's all NASA and other putting aside whether or not any of that's real or not. Right. Like he's working for the government.

Jeff Bezos without not paying sales taxes and without being able to use the post office and government roads, Jeff Bezos goes out of business. Walmart, which is the major employer in like, 45 of the 50 states you can look it up um you know without snap benefits every one of

their stores goes out of business without um you know there are many of their employees right are on some sort of assistance you know that with without some sort of government intervention Walmart goes out of business you know health care is the other major like health care and state university systems or the other like biggest employer in you know state x is either Walmart um I think in Washington state it was Boeing remember looking this up five four or five years ago so it might have changed since then but I doubt it um in four or five states it was like the local uh local health system right which of course is just a pass through for Medicare and Medicaid dollars with some private uh private money sprinkled on top

so what are you going to do right state universities like they're a real private employer please you didn't get here uh because oh the the free market or government you know like this is all been a government operation from start to finish we haven't had a free market since 1913 at a minimum dude you're you're missing the answer here just end the Fed and end the government, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so the people with all the money and all the guns and all the lawyers, they're going to just let you end it by saying, well, I don't like that.

But that's the moral thing. This is all about morals. They're immoral, and I'm moral. That makes me right, and that's all that matters. Okay, yeah, you're moral, but your children aren't to be able to afford to have children, and you're never going to have grandchildren. You might have, like, a grand dog. Yeah, that's not, you're going to have, like, you're going to have to live in your old age.

And by the time, by the old age surrounded by gangbangers, you're going to, like, beat you up and take your stuff because you can't afford to move. And by the time they figure this out and start talking about it, their trend, if they do have grandkids, their trans grandkids are going to load them onto a box car. Yep. So, this housing crisis that, again, it's not just happening in the United States. It's happening in Canada. It's happening in Australia. It's happening in New Zealand. It's happening.

And I've talked to Aussies and New Zealanders about this numerous times. You know, like this is not a new thing. This is all over the world. And, oh, the other thing that we didn't talk about, let's say that you're Chinese. And you made, oh, I. I don't know, $300 million illicitly in China. And because China is actually a serious country, they do things to criminals in their country, like execute them.

And you're like, I need to get the hell out of here. But because you're in Hong Kong, you've got some sort of relationship with the British. And so you're like, I'm going to take my money and go. And you go and you buy a $155 million apartment in central London. And that's how some of these places cost. Hundreds of millions of dollars for an apartment. That's insane.

No one lives there. Why is that? Well, here's what happens. Mr. Lee takes $155 million of his dirty money. He buys an apartment in Central London for $155 million. Cash. Then maybe does the same thing a couple other places. maybe he's got a place in Miami, maybe he's got a place in New York, right?

All of a sudden, well, he's got these three houses. What does he do with it? Well, he's got a $155 million asset just sitting there. He can borrow against that. So he can borrow $110 million. Put that in the stock market, in dividend stocks, and live off that for the rest of his life. And all of a sudden, boom, whatever dirty money he was making, is clean and never mind that oh well ordinary english people can't afford to live in england

and that they've been driven out of their home capital their own capital and there's all these empty houses in you know a huge chunk of trump tower was actually because of stuff like this right you know it's just the just the place that uh you know these these super wealthy live like well well why can't you just say actually nah we're not doing that in the middle of Manhattan. Sorry, you can live here. No one's saying you can't. But like human beings have to live like in the most expensive real estate in the world. We're not just going to leave it empty so that you can launder money. Because because ordinary people can't afford to live in New York anymore. Maybe Staten Island is the last place. Ordinary people

can afford to live in New York. But if you're not, you're not. not somehow state dependent, like receiving Section 8, Snap and free health care and all that other stuff, how does an ordinary person live in New York? You have to be super wealthy to live in New York City anymore. I mean, am I wrong? No, I mean, I don't understand how anybody who, you know, hasn't lived there for decades and parents, you know, have their parents' house or, you know, I've had a rent control place passed down to them for, you know, from a generation ago, how you can afford to live there unless you are, you know, the child, you are the 1% or the child of someone in the 1%.

And I don't even know how people, the 1%, you know, 1% really isn't that much anymore. It's really that top 0.5%. Because, I mean, all you have to do is go to New York for a weekend. And see how much stuff costs. And you ask yourself the question, how do people live here? Yeah, they don't. People are just, I don't know. People are waiting for it to get so bad that they're forced to react.

And by the time you get to that, to there, you may not even have the, you may not have the strength to react. You may not, I don't know what people are waiting for. I mean, I'm not, you know, saying, oh, people got to overthrow, overthrow this government and everything, but wake up to the fact that of what we're living through and, you know, where we're at in this moment in history and, you know, what it's going to take for you to, you know, fortify yourself and get through it. I think many people think that this can just go on, they can go on forever in this. yeah I mean you can't you can't explain to me how this is going to work right like Texas Tucker Carlson actually just had a really good interview with Ken Paxton the AG of Texas and Ken Baxter is the sort of civic nationalists that would be a decent person in a decent country but is completely ill-equipped to deal with the realities the world

that we live in. And I urge the listeners to, you know, it's about 45 minutes long or something. I think you can probably find it on Rumble and listen at two times speed, which is what I did. But,

you know, the oligarchy Bush clan, right? We've been CIA people for what? Prescott Bush was, right? Like, not just, and then, you know, HW was director of the CIA,

just happened to be in Dallas when Kennedy was shot. God Bush tried to overthrow the government. Yeah, that's right. I remember. Yeah, he's part of the business plot, wasn't he? Yep, business plot. Okay, all right, yeah. So, not that FDR was great, but, yeah, anyway, skull and bones, right?

You know, the 2000, uh, hey, you know, Eight election was, look at that one, bones been from Yale versus another bonesman from Yale. Who says if the business plot didn't go through it might not, we might not actually be in a better spot. Who knows? I don't know. I don't know, but nevertheless, right? We've got this oligarchical family that aren't really from Texas, but Carl Rove, their homosexual hatchet man, goes after Ken Paxton for. effectively you know he's opposing the Obama administration on civic nationalist grounds

and his boss Governor Greg Abbott doesn't do anything because Greg Abbott you know has a wheeled himself all the way up to the wall wearing a Kippa you know um but the the left it's it's worth listening to or worth watching because he just goes through oh well the left captured this particular institution the administration the administration administrative judges so that they don't commit you know they don't prosecute crimes or they don't or the DAs or this particular legal thing so that we couldn't do this or they took away all my campaign funds so I don't like almost bankrupt myself defending myself with lawyers or you know this that or the other thing right like Mark Stein the former communist at National Review he's been in a lawsuit for I want to say 10 years. against Michael Mann, the guy that did the hockey stick graph. You know, like he said this was fraudulent BS in a blog post, and this case has gone on for 11 years.

And Mark Stein's very famous phrase of the process is the punishment. Right. This whole system is illegitimate, right? Peter Rice says it's the wrong thing on a podcast, and all of a sudden we get sued. This the suit's completely frivolous. It's nonsense. It's total, total BS.

It doesn't matter. They know that it's BS. The problem is they want to bankrupt you with lawyers. So you have to sell your house or you can do all this other stuff. They want discovery. They want, you know, look at the Charlottesville lawsuit. It was nonsense. Total nonsense.

But the whole point was to just bankrupt people with lawyers. So if this system makes it impossible for your children to have a family, makes it impossible for you to live in a safe home, makes it impossible you to afford, you know, transportation, makes it impossible for you to live a life where, uh, anything approximating what your ancestors lived. Why do you still support it?

Why do you, why do you think there are rules? There's just power, bra. Like, there's, there's the people who have it and they want to use it on you in a malicious, in evil fashion, stop pretending that there are rules. I mean, I can't help, but let me find the article here.

Justice Report did the news site associated with the National Justice Party. did a story on Section 8 in Texas, right? And people got stabbed within, like, hours of, of the, you know, Section 8 housing being allowed in this neighborhood. You know, so why? In the studying blow to public safety, Texas lawmakers have now made it illegal for housing authorities to bar Section 8 tenants from branding in their neighborhoods. Welcome to Providence Village, a predominantly white town in North Texas rife with black violence. Thanks to Republican politicians, now has no way of stopping the tide of Section 8 tenants from destroying a once-same.

community. I'm going to throw you a link here, Pete. But why is this legitimate? Why are we even pretending this is something that these people, like they're not playing by

rules, except we hate you and want you to die. That's the rule. We get into quote the great Sam Hyde, they want you dead and broke and they think it's funny. Yeah. Yeah, that's another thing I wrote, you know, I asked some questions in my substack yesterday.

It's, you know, for civic nationalist, it's, I'm trying to figure out what they, what they think the end game is. What do they think? Like, should you be forced to live next to people who hate you? Should people who hate you have a direct say in your life? How about in the way you're governed? Who are, who are you content with sharing a podcast? Why are you content with sharing a polity with people that hate you?

Why are you truly unaware that people hate you and what you did? What is it going to take to wake you up to that fact? Why wouldn't you want to be surrounded by people who think and act like you do? And I will add and look like you do. Why are the, why are questions like that a threat to the civic religion? Use an example. I would be perfectly happy. I prefer to live on some land by myself.

But, you know, if I got a little bit older and didn't want to mow the lawn and all that stuff, if I could live in a, you know, reasonably private condo with, you know, my kids are out of the house or whatever, and Pete Canones was on the other side on my white wall, you know, I'd have you over to grill out every other Tuesday. like, oh, it's Tuesday. We're headed over to Canornaz's house to, you know, Canonaz's condo to have a couple glasses of wine and grill some steaks. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. The problem is, is if you share a common wall with people who, I don't know,

don't know how to change smoke detector batteries and frequently, you know, like African immigrants who frequently like cook using charcoal, That could cause some real freaking problems, man. I'm calling it. I'm saying that, like, our national religion now is smoke detector, smoke detector nationalism. It's like, I don't know if you saw the meme,

but like Enhealed the Grass Tyson saying, I know why the caged hallway chirps. Yeah, yeah. Did you see that one of the video of Kevin Samuels? Rest in peace. Shouldn't have taken the jab? Yeah, that was hilarious, but also terrible. I mean, what a great loss.

What, yeah, yeah, like, but you know, what do you mean? The hallway just do that. How can you, how can you live next to someone who can't take basic precautions of, like, not making sure your mutual dwelling doesn't go up in a fire? I don't even think it's the question of how you can. It's why would you want to? and what is it in this religion of this national of this you know constitutionalism America whatever you want to call it what is it that forces you to think that you have to

that you have to accept the fact that this person who can't change a fucking battery is that they should have any say in your life why would you want to be around what is what is wrong with you that you've been is it because you think you're going to be people are going to think you're a hateful bigot who cares they're going to think you're a hateful bigot no matter what yeah what have the last 10 years taught you have they taught you anything I mean I was thinking about this the other day

now 2013 was a pretty pivotal year because this year Barack Obama started his second term and Pope Francis came on board. And to me, that's the year that, like, everything was just illegitimate. Now, I don't know if Barack Obama stole the election or not. Frankly, I don't think there's been an honest election in Philadelphia since, I don't know, ever. But at least, at least in the 20th century. Like, there's never been an honest election in Philadelphia in the 20th century.

So, right, and this is one of those things where, to your point about the substack, like, why should anyone in Philadelphia have the vote? Why should they choose anything? Look at their community. Look around. It's full of trash. Look at Kensington right now and tell me that anyone who lives in Kensington should have a say in anything. Find the one dude who's on his mowed in that neighborhood and make him king of the block.

Right? Like find the one dude in that neighborhood who mows his lawn and keeps his house decent. And just hand him high, middle, and low justice. Like, yeah, you can shoot in. anybody you need to shoot or whatever, just make this community worth living in for decent people again. You don't understand. If we have the ability to choose who we associate with, China is going to march right in here

and take us over. This is, you know, I'm not even, that's not even a straw man. People say that shit all the time. Oh, if there's, if there's a session and, you know, this, the country broke up in six or seven different pieces. China would march right in. How is China not marching right in when you have a guy who's shitting himself in the White House

and you have a trans military? Well, the Chinese have dirt on. Like China doesn't need to march anywhere. They own the White House. Clinton started selling the Democratic Party to the Chinese in the 90s. Does anyone else remember that? You know, a California senator had a Chinese spy being their private limo driver for years.

The Chinese own the West Coast Democratic Party. California, Washington, Oregon. They have huge intelligence gathering operations at every major university in America at a Confucius Center. You think that they... Well, they need to physically conquer America. No, they don't. No, they don't. They've already, they'll get it without firing a shot.

Yeah, I heard this Baptist church down in Auburn was talking about how they were moving to a bigger place because they were growing. And they're like, yeah, and, you know, this building, we're going to use the money we sold from this building. You know, we sold it to the Chinese Bible study that's been meeting here. I'm like, no, you just sold this to China. Yeah. Yeah. A Chinese Bible study is not buying the building. I'm sorry.

Sorry to tell you guys. No. No, they're not. Well, and even if they are, you know, good, solid, let's just for a second, assume that these are the persecuted minority of Christians in China, which is a real thing. Chinese Christians are horribly, horribly was treated. What are they doing in Alabama? like bro why are you here like we we needed one other like strange unassabled minority like we kind of have the one we the one we have is enough why are you here well i think it's a lot a lot

come from china to study at auburn and then they uh they end up staying why i don't why is And being like, oh, it's okay. Well, like, we'll just have. Because it would be, it would be racist to, you know, to say that certain people can't live in certain places. You know, just like, you know. But it's not racist or evil to just price out, like, ordinary people from living in certain places. Like, oh, you're a middle class person. You don't deserve to be safe when you sleep at night.

Or it's not, it's not evil or racist to, you know, if people want to be a citizen of your country to make them take a blood test. and yeah can't get married by approval of religious authorities yeah oh and you can have a wall and a tariffs and

my holocaust bro my holocaust right well that's that's why the reason I wanted to talk about this and thank you very much for having me on and indulging in the discussion is this is all on purpose.

It's being done deliberately. And as you and Thomas is so brilliantly explicated, it's the Nuremberg regime. The second you say, and I've seen this happen, right? The second you say, well, I just think that we should do something to make sure that ordinary people should be able to, like, have a decent house and live decent. it, you know, within three steps of the argument, you get to, well, but that's the Holocaust.

It's not even, it's not even exaggeration. If you say, okay, well, we need to control immigration because it's driving up housing prices, and it's making, you know, certain things unlivable, or we need to not allow Section 8, like in the article I just sent you, you know, in Providence Village. so we can people can afford to live here and not and be safe like well that's racist no it's not it's just it's just you know infesting on certain standard behavior well the disparate impact well who cares about disparate if that's just the way people are what are you some kind of Nazi you think everyone like is like determined behavior is determined

by genetics and no black people are capable of behaving decently they'd say that but the odds are pretty good that they're not so what it's like I've told people. I've had a lot of black friends in my life. And as, as individuals, I'm fine. Once they get into groups, that's where the problem starts. No matter how good, no matter how good they are. Everyone's got a cousin Pookie. It's going to be staying over at his Cudden House for the weekend. And Cudden Pookie is going to have eight buddies that are all members of the Crips. And someone's going to invite a game member the blood's over and they're going to start shooting each other and lo and behold, you're going to start digging

45 slugs out of your wall, or pardon me, 9mm, not 978 anymore. You're going to start digging out. And then do you go, oh, well, this was fine? Or do you move? Or the easier thing to say, this is,

hey, look, decent, well-functioning black dude. Yeah, there was solving your problems. Solve your problems in your community and don't make your problems my problems. About 40 minutes south of me in a town called Daveville, there was a shooting at a

Sweet 16 party a few months ago. This was like just before we moved up here. And, you know, it was all, it was the usual suspects. Well, of course it was. It's every single time it's that way. Yeah. And you, when I went on,

there was, there's a guy who does like these YouTube videos and he goes around to like Alabama towns and he just like drives germ and reviews them and he like just all of a sudden did this special video where he was saying you know the reason that this happened is because of racism the reason that these black people are killing each other is because of historic racism here and i'm like you stupid fucking mexican i mean what what the fuck are you even talking about and that's what they go their their brains are i mean in this guy this isn't a guy who's like openly

lying you know who's just like going on there to propagandize he's like being all emotional and this is what his emotions bring out his emotions bring out that the reason black people kill each other is because at some point in time they they were slaves or their ancestors were slaves and you're like, never mind that the, the, never mind that the, uh, the ancient Egyptians said there, these people are like this and it's literally the exact same that they're dumb, they're violent, they're, you know, much, you know, like Arab slave traders are written about how they're much akin, you know, like Indian slave traders like literally every, everyone from all over the world, Europeans, Arabs, subcontinental Indians, Egyptians,

they've all had the same, the exact same. Yeah, it's, it's really, it's really interesting when all, when a whole bunches of groups in different civilizations have the same opinion about certain groups of people. And you're supposed to ignore that like every single one of them was wrong. Yeah. Across thousands of years. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're not, yeah, we're not talking about, oh, you know, in from 16, 19. to 1865. No, we're talking about like thousands of years. And thousands of miles. Yeah.

Every country. Groups go into. Right. People are like, we can't live with them. And another group that same thing applies to is our Hebrewic friends, right? Yeah. I mean, it's like, well, yeah, I mean, it's the old joke. You know, if I had, if I had a hundred and nine girlfriends who kicked me

out of their house, I guess I had, you know, I had a hundred and nine shitty girlfriends who were just, you know, they just hated me because of who I am. Yeah, that's it. You know, I'll close with this. I put this up on telegram a few days ago. Number one,

our places are nice. They suck. Two, they'll never leave us alone. Three, they'll follow us everywhere we go. Four, they're completely unreasonable. And five, We're trying to make it impossible to tell the truth about items one to four.

That's the root of the housing crisis right there. Because the second somebody gets some money, like, you know how the media lies and tells all these people that, like, let's be honest. Just like, I've seen better looking girls at like the checkout at Costco than are like beauty present winners in Africa. like straight up just like go down your local Costco and and and you know in a decent decent area right and she's going to be able to find a girl that's just better looking than you know beauty pageant winners in Senegal or Congo or wherever right or Bolivia or whatever like or Miss Bolivia is going to be like 97% you know Iberian yeah right right

we're German yeah something like that but the they're told oh all these all these gorgeous women are interested in you

you just need to get there and they'll throw themselves at your feet of course it's a lie and it's not true but that's what they're told right and and speaking of like people who are earning too late I know you saw this

and I hope you find this as hilarious as I did. You know, old Megan McArdle, right? I am finding it increasingly difficult to general explanations for El Salvador's crime decline other than, quote, absolute savagery works. Like, this is the problem. Like, okay, Megan McArdle, childless woman who married a Jew, who's been yamering on about freedom and markets and libertarianism for, you know, the 20 years or 25 years I've been following politics.

You know, you've literally wasted millions of people's time. Like, all you've done is just lie. I don't even think she did it on purpose. I think she's just not capable of abstainting the truth because she's a woman. She's been married to a Jew who doesn't have any children. But this is what we're trying to stop. It's like, yes. Yes, Naibu Keli is the greatest statesman in the Western Hemisphere, possibly the world.

Why? Because he just said, hey, you have a face tattoo. You should probably be in jail. like if you have if you have a gigantic 13 tattooed on your forehead i'm just going to go with you're probably a member of a criminal gang and we're going to throw you in jail and they have up there you know that's i mean the guy is the guy's cleaned up his country i mean the guys i mean he's i think somebody on his on his behalf made some claims about um murder disappearing but that doesn't happen when you have humans

Um, but I mean, the murder rate in, in, um, in El Salvador has just dropped, you know, so, I mean, what's the problem? Right. It's like people are safe. Ordinary decent people are safe now. No, it's, I mean, I, when I saw what he was doing, I'm like, and they should be doing that here. I wish we had someone who could do that, who would do that here. He's like, oh, well, if somebody, once somebody. Once somebody does that, there are going to be, you know, innocent people are going to be swept up in it and everything like that.

It's like, I'm, I'm, okay, and innocent people, innocent people always get hurt. That's how this works. And innocent people are going to get, like, speaking of these people getting hurt. I'm sure you saw the video of those two teens in Las Vegas running down that old man on the bicycle. I mean, he's the former. Oh, you mean, you mean the two, the two obviously Hispanic teens that, when they were booked, their race was put down as white? Well, I think one guy was black and one guy was Hispanic with like a face tattoo. Okay.

And, okay, like he has a tattoo on his cheek. Just throw him in jail. Just anybody with anybody with a tattoo above the collarbone, they obviously make bad decisions. you know, is she like, you know, is the person with a tattoo, like, you know, a dumb 19-year-old white girl will be like, yeah, sweetheart, get that removed, or is you like a dude with, like, tear-drop tattoos on his, next to his eye? Like, just take that guy and throw him in jail. Or make it possible so that you can write a law that says, like, hey, decent people with families don't have to live around dudes with face tattoos. and that's the you know why is housing costing so much well because you're paying a premium to get away from people who will do things like randomly run down old men on bicycles and even then that's no guarantee that you're going to be able to like avoid it and this is the problem is that ordinary decent Americans have been in like conservative types have been gaslit

into almost being kind of pseudo libertarian because they can't can't actually collectivize anything because that's nazism of of not being able to advocate for themselves and believing that there are individual solutions to collect the problems is nonsense and so when glenbeck tells you oh we just need to go back to the constitution and we everything will work out like no what you need to do is pass a law that says um people deserve to live free, it's free from impediment by undecent people as possible. And if you're this sort of dude who's dumb enough to get a tattoo on

your face, ordinary people should be like, yeah, I don't want to live around you. Well, you saw what, um, you saw Glenn Beck's latest, right? For yesterday. Yeah, making the sign of the cross in front of a Jew. You should, you should know that that's not allowed. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm to do it. Now I'm going to do it all the time. Now I'm just going to walk around doing it. Yeah. Well, he's an apostate who's, yeah, not a big fan of Mr. Beck. But, and he's, he knows exactly what we know. He knows everything we know. He just, someone sold him, he, he was getting down the

rabbit hole back in like 2011, 2011, 2013, and someone showed him just, you know, the other side of the Zepridor film. It was told, this is how far you can go in your foot, no farther. And that's what he did. But, but pretending that there's the, right. Yeah, how many problems could be solved if you just said, hey, look, no, no, no one with a face tattoo. No one in MS-13. No one, you know, no black man between the ages of, I don't know, 12 and 50. Yeah. So, right. Somebody comments it under one of my posts on Twitter yesterday and he said, I'm talking about, you know, just getting called fascist. He said, fascism possesses perennial appeal for a reason. It is ultimately the ideology of unvarnished nature.

Accusing someone of being a fascist is to accuse them of being a human being unaccustomed to self-cuckery. Many more such cases will appear. Yeah. Like, you're the ideology of water was wet and fire burns. Yep. basically and i like people who like people who come at me and they're like um they're like oh oh fascist you know the fascist the fascist would have killed you right and i'm like so you've never heard of the philongue in spain right are you people retarded well yeah they are that's

that that's the problem they don't know that that literally uh i mean bidconquisling was has been his name has been maligned to the point of um right uh he was a lutheran oswald mosley was anglican yeah caudriani was orthodox metaxus was orthodox franco and salazar were catholics musilini was a catholic the arrow cross party was christian all and and this isn't me saying this this is paul godfrey saying this fascism is the liturgical christian response to bolshevistic subversion that's all it is and you can't and for all those people who you know the the uh the catholic types who want to just restore uh you know like distributism or whatever like i i get the idea it's very attractive here's the thing if you live in a world where your artisanal handmade widens cost 10 times as much and take three times as long to produce as the mass-produced widget down the street

and the mass-produced widget down the street is 90 or 95% as good as your artisanal hand-produced widget, you're going to get buried. And you can't undo the Industrial Revolution. You're never, you're never,

like, look at what's happening in Ukraine right now. well our artisanal hand handmade artillery shells are morally superior to the mass-produced artillery shells of the Russians how's that working out it's a production game and it has been for 400 years you know England was able to win because they were to build more ships

the only reason the Soviets didn't lose World War II is Weiss the United States produced tons and tons and tons of stuff and sent it to them by the truckload. We sent them 10,000 aircraft from Montana up through Canada, through Alaska, and all the way across Siberia, literally halfway around the world, the long way. Like, that's some dedication. And it's literally just the stuff making stuff. The Chinese will beat the pants off of us.

and whatever war that, you know, a war over Taiwan, because the Chinese can actually make things. The Russians are winning their war because they can make things. And you know what? In China or Russia, they don't waste money on financial schemes and constantly swapping properties back and forth because they constantly have a move away from people

who have tattoos in their face and run down. old men in the street. I'm pretty sure if you did that in China just randomly where a non-Chinese person who just randomly ran over an old Chinese man in the street and then posted up on our social media, I'm pretty sure the Chinese, you wouldn't even make it to the courtroom.

Now, China's a sociopathic, you know, bug people country, so they do randomly just run each other over. But I'm pretty sure that if you were a non-Chinese, person who just killed an old Chinese man who was well respected in his community I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be this whole hand-wringing about whatever caused him to be you know

do this you know there wouldn't be people you know to get back to your point about the dude who went to this thing in Alabama you know this Mexican guy who's here's oh gosh this racist why should I share a community why should I be forced to share a polity with someone who's too stupid to understand that is racial. Why?

You shouldn't. You shouldn't. I mean, you know, that's culture is everything and there is no civic national. That's not a culture. That's just a,

I don't even know what it was. And until, until you deal with all of these problems, right? Until you deal with the racial, unconherence until you deal with the violence until you deal with the usury and the central banking right people just aren't going to be able to live decent and we're not talking like super extravagant homes or anything like that we're talking a home for a family yeah and it could be

it could be it could just be you know a three-bedroom apartment in Queens or a row house in Philadelphia. We're not talking, you know, lords of broad acres here. We're talking ordinary people living decent lives in a decent place that they can afford. Yes. Well, let's end it.

I'm going to go about my day. I always appreciate talking to you. Do you want me to plug your telegram channel? Is there anything else? Yeah. I've got the two. I'll send you both. One's app band.

So if you're still foolish enough to not download directly from Telegram, first of all, get off of Apple just because. But if you're still downloading directly, like download directly from telegram.org and install or use a fork or something like that. But,

you know, all the interesting stuff is app banned because someone said something spicy and true. like it's banned because it's true it's not banned because if i was if i was saying that the moon was made of green cheese no one would bother banning me yeah because i've said true things that offend the regime that's why i've been banned from things yep yep telegram always get it off of uh get it off their website and never get it off the app store app store will censor there'll be things people will be sending you things you'd be like i can't read it and that you

you'll you'll know why because you got it off the app store get it off their website every everything i have telegram downloaded on came off their website so i can see everything so all right d appreciate it always thank you thank you very much pete well i mean people can back this up and start let's just get going and keep you waiting here everyone i want to introduce you to dark enlightenment and um how are you doing today great man thanks for having me. It's been a real pleasure getting to be your friend and get to know you and listen to your program. And I've got to say, I've gone through probably at least 100 episodes of the Pete Canarnas show. I think I think my first discovered you like last year on Tom Woods' show or something.

And I forget exactly how I found you. But I did. And then I've just eaten it up. and you've been kind enough to have me on multiple times and I really appreciate it. And I really love the program and it's kind of cool that we're buddies. I find that amazing. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate the, I appreciate the kind words.

I really do. I enjoy your work a lot too. You are a fan favorite whenever you come on. I've known that astonishing, really. I do. I find that really weird. It's good to be here. Yeah,

now that we finish jerking each other off. Um, well, you know, why don't we start with this? I mean, the whole Prager thing is your origin story, you know, is, it's a part of your origin story. I believe, I believe it's one of those things that, you know, you, you look at and you're like, oh, that's what got me here. But then you look at it and you're like, this is really evil. But what, you want to start just talking about some current events and you want to talk

about this um well yeah so um our in mcantyre actually it uh who's on the blaze who's on glenbeck's network that i think it's astonishing that that's that's a real thing but you know how to show yesterday day before something like that talking about this whole satanism in the iowa state capital thing and uh and he did a fantastic job well dismantling the whole but my first amendment requires us to let satanists no it doesn't no it doesn't And anyone who says it does is an enemy of civilization and not a conservative. They're a flaming communist who should be exiled from the public square at a bare minimum and put in summer camp. Most of them should be put in summer camp and everyone else should be, you know, barred from the public square.

And you know what I were talking about that privately about how it's just so absurd. And anyone who, you know, wants to claim to be a libertarian or wants to live in an order, liberty society. Like, you can't have people whose whole idea of the good is there is no good, you know, let be evil thou my good, as, as Milton put it, right? You can't have a society with something like that. You can't have a society for someone who thinks that something like abortion and, you know, like, is a positive good and that they should be more of them and that it's a useful thing for society. Like, you know, I'm against it 100%. and someone who like reluctantly comes to the conclusion that it's necessary in certain limited cases might be you might be able to share a society with that person right the safe legal rare you know bullshit from can we swear I'm sorry yeah yeah anyway uh Clinton was lying when he said that but but you know if someone who genuinely believe that you might be able to share a society with that person the people who think like oh it's a positively good thing and I celebrate it and every abortion is wonderful and I think abortion is great and I think you know no there's no there's no society with that person. person. And any Hoppian who or any libertarian who thinks that you can is either a joke or

evil. And I was just thinking about like, how did I get here such that, um, and for those you don't know, I'm in my mid 40s, graduated high school in the late 90s. Um, and I drove for a living for many years after that. So I got a lot of drive time, a lot of windows windshield time. This was before podcast really a thing, and I was a late adopter. So I listened to a lot of different talk radio sports. At one time, brother, I had like three or four different local stations, you know, like, oh,

such and such as rush and such and such as, you know, Sean Hannity and whatever. And to be honest with you, like, Sean Hannity actively cultivates an audience that's stupid. Like, Sean Hannity is stupid, and he's listening to him makes you stupid, and he wants his audience to be stupid um so when you get somebody like mark living or russ or a dennis prager or

michael medved or any one of the other notice with all three of those guys have in common besides being talk show host um they are deliberately trying to cultivate that audience that's maybe a little bit more on the ball supposed to like the 97 iq carpenter guy who's like I love America and big trucks and war. Sean Hannity said so, right? I mean, there's nothing wrong with that guy that couldn't be fixed by fixing the source of information as the Trump's campaign shown. But for the most part, you know, certain talk show hosts cultivated, you know, an audience that was more interested in ideas. And to give you an example, Dennis Prager, you know, who didn't graduate but attended Columbia for graduates.

school um and was invited to write for national review and other places you know in his late early 20s uh has three different you know set hours on his show where he'll talk about uh you know all what he calls the ultimate issues hour you know like atheism god things like that um and uh the male female hour right so he'll kind of do proto red pill stuff like that and he's And he'll do the happiness hour, right? So he's got, of the 15 hours a week he's got on his program, he'll dedicate three hours to these kind of sort of, kind of edgy issues. And he doesn't do that because he wants people to have more information.

Dennis Prigger knows everything you and I know. He's a talk show host. Everyone who's an intellectual has known everything we know. They all read the bell curve back in 1994. All of them did. If you didn't read the bell curve in 1990, 94 in most when then you're not an intellectual period and it is your job to read things like the bell curve or race war in high school which p. I read you can check that out on the channel

or any number of things right or more recent book Christopher Caldwell's age of entitlement so Dennis knows all this stuff and his job I came to figure out later and I figured over time was to provide a functioning liberal society that let his people get away with whatever it is they get away with or as much as they can get away with while providing a stable functioning society for them to pariside off of and that's that's essentially what the what the Levin's and the Prager's and the other, you know, Jewish toxo hosts, that's their job, is to provide enough of a rationale for conservatism to, you know, for society to function. You know, Ben Shapiro was not just stupid.

You know, the dude graduated Harvard at like 20 or something. he's going to college early super smart guy so why is he in favor of all this stuff that's not true why is he a talk show host yeah there's the question somebody who graduates harbored at 20 why is he a talk show host right you know michael medved went to went to school with the clinton's i can't remember which school he went to but he's you know like i you know why are these people in these places? And the answer, of course, is that their job from the system is to corral the right-wing populist reaction against this stuff, against the destruction of the country, against the needless wars, against the massive inflation.

I mean, Pete, we're roughly the same age, give it eight, five, six years. Was $20 an hour good money when you first started working? If I had made $20 an hour when I first started working, I would have easily been able to buy a house. It's not even survival weights now. Yep. So that's in one working lifetime.

30 years, $20 went from being, you know, like you could support a family on $20 an hour. Like you could work and your wife could stay home, money or wife could work part-time kind of money. And now I just saw something someone posted on Twitter. I can't remember who I

loved to give them credit. Someone did an inflation adjustment calculation of whatever Bob Cratchett got paid in a Christmas carol and it was worked out to 1870, 1847 an hour. Inflation.

So rather than engage in a systematic critique, right, of why has the value of money halved in, you're in my working lifetime, right? Why, you know, are there 450 billion dollars, half a trillion dollars has been spent on the new arrivals in America just since Biden took office? half a trillion dollars the debt service is now more than the defense department the uh three million illegal like ask the average person listens to npr right how how many illegal immigrants do you think came just in the biden administration like oh you know a million maybe no it's three million or more right and i mean that's going to that's destroyed the country it's i mean it has to be more than that oh it's it's definitely more than that but they'll admit to three million admit to at least three million yeah right i mean it's probably i would say

five million a year it's probably 15 million in the last three years oh probably and again right you know if you're a serious intellectual if you're an honest person you've read things like the age of entitlement you read the bell curve you've read um Jerry Taylor, you've read, you know, race war in high school, there's nothing and or, you know, the coming AI revolution. You think about these things. What are these, you know, 87 IQ mestizos from Wauca and Guatemala and El Salvador going to do in a world where there's AI everywhere? They're going to help libertarians and NCAPs build Ancapistan. How?

that's what that's what that's what I understand I mean they're just not like like this is the this is the like borders are like a spook man it's just an imaginary line in the sand bro yeah you know unfortunately there's a lot of that it is and and right like what did what did Hans say Those who embrace non-family-centered lifestyles must be physically removed from society. Is that the correct quote? I think that's the one that's stepping out to me. It's pretty close, yeah. Right. So wait a minute. Like you've got this mass invasion of military age men from South America and from, you know, into Europe.

It's from Africa and Arabia. Like, they're never, you know, between AI. And the downward pressure on, you know, slipping down the other rung as middle-class jobs become done by AI and then, you know, people who would have done those middle-class jobs get pushed down the scale. There's nothing for these people to do. And a serious society would address these problems. The talk shows would talk about them. Right. This question that was just asked, I mean, I think it's a fair question, but Flash asked, is it fair to say that Conn Inc is the gateway dose to this kind of circle for some people?

And I would say, yeah, that sum, though, is very small, is that most people get stuck in there and they never leave it. Yeah, Scott says Bill Buckley worked for the CIA. That's the origin of Connick. Like, yep, that's true. But think about this. Okay. I don't know if I've ever told a red pill story to this audience, but it'll be very brief. I graduate high school late 90s, and I did a job that had a lot of windshield time

and kind of worked in Republican politics a little bit, you know, just volunteering and that kind of thing at my state. and I was very enthusiastic about George W. Bush because, like, we'd been attacked, and I was like, oh, thank God, Al Gore didn't get elected. Things would be a disaster. We need to go get them at your abs. You know, and I had a lot of time to listen to a lot of different talk radio. And a lot of time, you know, I listen to NPR and I listen to Rush and I listen to sports. And, you know, pretty, when you're driving eight, 10 hours a day, you get, you get some time to, you know, you know, when the commercial breaks are and you skip them, right? And, uh, I remember the first two years of the Bush administration, we got nothing done. Like, it was, there was 50 U.S. senators who were Democrats, 50 U.S. senators or Republicans. And the system said, oh, we can't do anything. 50 senators that you need 51 to pass things. So, obviously, so there was a complete waste, the first two years of Bush administration. In 2002, Republicans get 55 senators and the Supreme Court and the president, who was a conservative Christian evangelical, he's going to, we're going to repeal Roe v. Wade, we're going to, you know, pass school choice.

we're going to privatize social security let's let's go right we're going to you know we're going to do something who and of course you know all we got for that was a lousy unwinnable war that killed millions of Christians in Iraq and like destroyed their country and now my cab drivers are all like Assyrian Christians Caldian Christians from from Mosul who like got out with you know nothing Um, and, uh, so, right, and then I help with the Tea Party stuff and, and again, that got, we got nothing. And con ink, you know, it puts you in this box and gives you these pseudo solutions because fundamentally they're liberals. Establishment conservatives are large L liberals

They are Lockhean liberals The conversation politically speaking Is between the left who says to conservatives You are bad Rawlsian liberals And the conservatives say to the liberals You are bad Lockhean liberals And they're both right Because they're both wrong

liberalism capital l liberalism is impossible to salvage because the only way to make anything actually work in liberalism is to make an unprincipled exception right is to you go to your schmitt and say yeah we're not doing that we're we're we're saying no freedom to do this thing no freedom to well what if the child consents though right like nope what about satan public say, no, any society has an official religion. And this whole Satanism in Iowa, like, okay, the First Amendment, as interpreted, effectively mandates state atheism. Because it says no truth claim can be backed by the force of the state. No truth claim, can we, can we, we, there's no truth claim in this society that is just assumed as valid.

Every truth claim is equally invalid Because Pete can say Create the one unum damn And I can be like I don't think that God exists at all And we could both be like, well, you're wrong and I'm wrong Or whatever And The effective

What has effectively happened due to positive law And frankly Jewish lies Is no society Or no legal framework exists for us to just say, no, this is beyond the pale of what we're able to tolerate, you know, I'd be okay with the society to say, yeah, you have to be able to, like, believe the Apostles' Creed and in the energy of Scripture to hold office. Yeah. There's a, um, a friend of mine sent me this. It's an article. It's up in Winnipeg in Canada. I know how it's screwed Canada is. Um, it's basically

an article celebrating an LGBT, Q plus reimagining. of Handel's Messiah as a way to push back expectations. And, you know, they basically said nothing musically is altered, but we're swapping gender roles subverting them, said Poole, who is gay in conducting the concert. Well, I'm sorry, but in my libertarian paradise, I'm going to crush those people. Yeah. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen in public.

Right. Yeah. It's not going to happen in public. The people who did the, uh, the Biden family Christmas, you know, dance thing, the L MNOP, QR, QR, QR, QRty thing with the strange, you know, White House Christmas stuff. They should all be arrested. Yeah. The people tearing down the, you know, reconciliation monument, um, at Arlington. and right like we're wanting to trade that done they shall be arrested yeah i mean deported

deported would be like that there'd be like conservative it would be um yeah i mean deportation would be treating it nicely because a lot of people would like to go someplace else but if you just crush them then people know you're not going to do that in the future yeah well and to i kind of been rambling in and you're good the the problem is right there is no such thing as a secular society this is one of curtivus jarvin's great points this is where i started breaking with uh the conservative conservative ink um because i had the time to like work it and i was a single dude i basically read at night and like listened to radio all day and um You know, you can just see, right, that this whole idea of, like, I have to tolerate Satanism.

Well, that means just our religion is Satanism. If there's Satanist public memorials or Satanist public statues or we're tearing down Christian statues or tearing down the cross in San Diego or tearing down statues of Saints, St. Juno Perocera in California, or attempted to tear down the San Luis in St. Louis in St. Louis. Missouri or tearing down the statues of, you know, like, then we're just, our public religion is, you know, anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-male. Wokness, that's just our public religion.

And you're going to have a public religion no matter what. This whole idea that, you know, positive law types who, oh, but the Constitution says, you know, well, if all truth claims are equally invalid or equally valid, then all truth claims are invalid. Because if you can say the two and two is four, and I can say two and two is

17, and we both have to be respected because of the First Amendment, then the First Amendment says, you can lie, you can, you can deceive people, and that's acceptable. Now, Thomas Jefferson, for all that he was a heretic and had lots of other bad ideas, I'm pretty sure, like, he wouldn't have been okay with, and he was the most radical of all of them, I'm pretty sure like trannies in front of fifth graders would

old TJ probably would have had you hung for that I'm just going to guess and certainly the men who fought the revolution the average farmer who was in the continental army

they would have hung your really fast there wouldn't have even been a discussion and there's no um there's no way to reconcile certain visions of society. All of our religious

problems internally are in fact political problems. Bad people are in power. There's nothing, you know, Pope is a whole separate issue, but he's a bad person in power needs to be removed. All of our political problems are in fact a theological issue of like normal people think that they share base assumptions with the left and they don't. Leftists are evil. Capital E,

evil and they're trying to destroy society because they hate Christianity, they hate God, they hate white people, they hate men, they hate America, they hate Europe, they hate pretty much anything good in the world, if anything like established order or made things better or, you know, they hate it. They hate fossil fuels. They hate all good things. And so a society, you know, saying that the First Amendment, rather than saying that, you know, the Presbyterian and the Methodist and the Baptist all can have like a church on Main Street and no one can say, well, you can't have a church here. It's not the same thing as saying, like we have to have Satanists and Muslims and Buddhists and atheists be the, you know, moral arbiters of what's okay in our society. That's, that's ridiculous. is it's it's it's literally insane um i just want to let everyone know um you can super chat on

youtube you can super chat on entropy uh it's christmas time if you i'm not asking it i'm not expecting anything from anyone i know that people are spending money this time of year so um yeah if you want only if you want to and um yeah but um here here's the thing okay what all you have to do once once your eyes are open to this you can go to any Dennis Prager type of person talk Ben Shapiro talk when they're talking about liberty when they sound like you're on their when they when they sound like they're on your side ask what you know it's quibono every time how ask how they're benefiting from it and ask yourself this how are how are

they going to benefit from it? And is it really going to benefit you at all? Or is it just playing to your principles? Does it feel, does it sound really good? And it sounds like your principles. But really, if it happens, if whatever they're talking about, were to come into fruition, which it never does, how is it going to help you? Or is it going to benefit them? And then once you get, once you start asking that question, you can start asking questions like, Okay, if it's not benefiting me, and it doesn't seem to be benefiting anybody around me, it doesn't seem to be benefiting the United States at all, then who's it benefiting? Right.

So Dennis Prager has his American Trinity that he's always talked about. He was pushing this many years ago, but, you know, e pluribus unum, in God we trust. And what was the third one? Liberty? Let me look this up. But, like, okay, but e pluribus unum, what? Like, oh, which many are you talking about, Dennis? Am I supposed to, you know, 83 IQ Congolese that are literally incapable of making a living in America and are violent?

Um, you know, like, like, I'm supposed to just be pleuribus with them. and liberty who's liberty like my liberty to say what I think um or you know there are more of these people like they'll blaspheme our Lord

in public but if I say you know N word in public right I'm going to get fired what do you mean by liberty like liberty to do what?

You know, but stuff in communism, right? Like, this is not. And then, you know, in God, we trust, which God? You know, when Dennis Prigers says God and I say God, we, you're using the same word, but we don't mean the same thing, you know. It's like what Israel Shahawk talked about in, in Jewish history, Jewish religion, Jewish history, is that because the person in who's listening to the message from a preacher, a rabbi, doesn't matter, but he's specifically talking about rabbis, doesn't have to believe in the Kabbalistic spectrum of gods

and their satanic kind of chance that they do and how they pray that Christians would die three times. times a day. But over centuries, what they're teaching their people actually starts to resonate in a way. And I compare it to the fact that most people walking around the United States do not, can't quote the U.S. Constitution, but they have an idea. They're walking around with the spirit of it. Even though it's dead, even though it's dead, there's nothing it can do. They're walking around with the spirit of it. And that's really bad because they're expecting the Constitution to save them. In much the same way, you know, the average person who's sitting in the, you know, who's sitting there listening to somebody talk who has very, is a Satanist,

basically, is teaching their people. That's coming out and it's affecting them even though they don't know it. Does that make sense? Yeah, and again, or in McIntyre, he made it great points. The left is correct about the Constitution. It is a living document. It is whatever people who are alive today say it is, right? Because this is the problem with Protestantism and liberalism itself. Texts do not interpret themselves.

They have to be interpreted. so they're always mediated by men and that's what the tradition is for and that's what a hierarchy is for is so that you can say no this is what this is what this text means and you know you might be you in your bible under a tree or you and your constitution under a tree but the people with guns and 90% of your neighbors or whatever are going to say nope no we think it means this and if you disagree with this we'll shoot you look at what happened to you know um randy weaver right he had an interpretation of the constitution it was perfect far more in keeping with what the original intent was but the people with the guns said no we

don't think that the constitution means that and you know look what they did to him david caresh for all of his thought flaws was was a guy who believed in the constitution believed in the Bible and the people who, you know, like, so this is what that whole, like, oh, well, don't compete for power because competing for power is immoral, you know, libertarianism, self-licking ice can cone stuff is nonsense. It's because if you don't have any power, if your ideology, it's like using power is immoral, so I'm going to cede power to the people who will use power against me is totally self-defeating.

I can't remember when you posted it, but there's that hilarious meme of like, you know, the stick of state power where the, the dude. in the no step on snake hat or it's no step on snake t-shirt like nope using this would be immoral and then he gets beaten to death by like the dude with multiple hair and face piercings yeah I remember which meme you

when you posted that but I remember it was a while ago yeah I saved that meme though and because the right so if Dennis Prager said look I'm a Jew um we've done really well here in America um

and um people should and and Protestants were really good to us we should we should you know appreciate that and promote like Protestant was Protestant Christianity in America and we shouldn't undermine that society right so Dennis will actually very famously got in trouble got you know got in trouble for people with like saying you know Keith Ellison shouldn't have taken his oath of office when he was House representatives when he was in the House of representing from Minnesota

and he took his oath of office on the Quran right but Dennis will sit there and go well you know I mean there should be Muslims in America like we shouldn't get to be able to keep them out we shouldn't just say yeah no no Muslims no Negroes in the in the

like it's perfectly reasonable to say yeah you know on average just Negroes aren't capable of like actually debating stuff they're too narcissistic they're too stupid they're too unable to unempathetic to really be representatives in a representative democracy

so yeah we're just going to keep them out right like show me one who's done anything other than like pass money out or just make a fool of themselves John Lewis Jew with Jackson Lee I mean there's not one

in the entire you know and something that just occurred to me I posted a little bit about on Telegram um uh everyone I assume because you've your woke beat you knew Obama was gay in like 2007 right

yeah I mean it was obvious right from the start right okay so I was also one of those guys is like this dude's gay everyone guys gay right and now you know 20 years later right now uh yeah so he first came to prominence in 2002 um do you know how star trek is indirectly responsible for president baroque obama no okay funny story uh actress jerry ryan who played seven of nine on star trek voyager i know yeah i know right and boston legal and other stuff she was married

to a fellow who's literally named jack ryan you know yeah dartmouth dartmouth Harvard educated investment banker guy who was like they'd divorced in the late 90s and his divorce their divorce records of like he liked taking me to weirdo sex clubs and like showing off the fact that I was like super hot I was like well that's a little weird but like if I was married to Jerry Ryan

I'd show off like to be honest fam right like like maybe not that way that's a little weird that's a little that's a little uncouth it shouldn't happen but like they'd been divorced for years by that point and those records got unsealed and those records were used to humiliate him and basically cost and race he dropped out

and then they put up like a token opposition of I want to say Alan Keyes who's actually not a bad guy I remember yeah anyway so Barack Obama cruises to easy election in the Senate

and then he gives that big speech at 2004 convention and, or maybe, yeah, 2004 when they nominate John Kerry and it's basically like, oh, this guy's going to be, you know, he was obvious. It was, anyone who was watching it knew that they were grooming him. Yeah. So, like, they knew he was gay. The CIA knew he was gay back in, like, like, and, like, and, um. I mean, I knew about Larry Sinclair in 2006 or 2007.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. Right. so would he have made the Senate election would all those blacks in Chicago have voted for him if they knew he was gay would he have won the presidential election if John McCain had known like if John McCain said my opponent is a closeted homosexual who uses crack cocaine right and this is all I mean if you

look in the right places Larry Sinclair other people would have told you right a serious media right a serious conservative media Dennis Prater wall I don't know but believe in no if you were really about winning really about like Barack Obama did more damage to this country than any president we've ever had and all these people who would decry

oh look what he's doing he's trying to divide us by race like no he's of course he's trying to divide us by race he's was probably born in Kenya he's a mulatto he's gay his wife might be a tranny like I mean I mean of course he's going to destroy this country he hates you he hates you because you're white and because you're Christian his father was a black radical Muslim bigamist we're supposed to just sit here and be like oh this is okay you know like Ilhan Omar shouldn't be in the in the house because like oh she married your brother or whatever like fraud but like just because I don't think that people from like the least functional society on earth should come to this country and then be like you know what you guys need to change you need even more like us like no you just be quiet just be glad that you live in a society that functions and be quiet and not only should you like be kicked out of Maine kicked out of Minnesota kicked all these other places that they're you know making significantly worse but like you shouldn't even get to complain you're a Somali like your people do tribal warfare and pirates that's all you do you're you're literally some of the dumbest people on the face of the planet

But a serious conservative media, and this is where Dennis Prager is such an effective gatekeeper, why Ben Shapiro is such an effective gatekeeper? Because he says, oh, the second you start bringing up IQ or sex realism, you're a Nazi. And that's the end word for white people, right? Nazi. And I know you've been dealing with that lately of people calling you a Nazi for like, wait a minute. Yeah, I care. Right, yeah.

Yeah, but it's also like, it's like, it's like, Oh, am I? I don't know. Never really thought about it. Right. Like, yeah, do I, do I subscribe to the tenets of national socialism? I never, yeah. Say what you will at least, but at least it's an ethos, right?

I mean, yes, thank you. That's a good one. So good. Right? I mean, at least it's an ethos. I'm like these nihilus, Donnie. Right? And that's the Cohen brothers, like some of the most honest, like, self-loathing

as you've ever seen. Yeah. But like, you know, like, uh, so why are these people not talking about that? Why are they not talking about the fact that like, you know, at least 15 million,

15 million people are in this country, probably a full 15 to 20% of this country, at least, at least is illegal immigrants or their descendants. their average IQ is 90 something. And we live in a society where, you know, Stefan Moly, God bless him. I don't know what he's up to these days. But, you know, he pretty conclusively proved. Like, you can't have a democracy in a society where, you know, the IQ falls below 92.

So how are these people going to, you know, make their way in the world? If they can't understand a budget, you know, this, this, this, school just something as simple as like your local school district budget and they can't understand it how are they going to vote for people how are they going to participate in town meetings how are they going to go to the local school board you know they're not this is not you know this is supposed to be a republic of anglo-saxon yeoman farmers with like a sprinkling of like oh you're italian i guess you can come in i you know like like like there's there was no i mean i guess i guess every society needs a couple of um you know

high time preference mediterranean's right well that's that's what you want your that's you want you know guarding your borders is the people who smell of cynicism and garlic being like hey what are you doing here like what do you i don't trust you why you look funny right like that's what we want um right but like if conservative media was serious you know and tucker carls and jack prosopic just had a conversation at at human events where they conceded 90% of what we were saying 15 years ago because without you know the collectivism stuff because that's just where things are at you know um my first presidential vote was for harry Brown in 2000.

But, so I've known about Congressman Paul for close to 30 years now. And, you know, if that was the kind of libertarian as we were talking about, we could live in a liberal Chinese society. You know, personally, Ron Paul is about as conservative as you get, right? keeps keeps himself in good shape uh you know married to the same lady for what 60 years something like that um you know no vices really doesn't smoke doesn't drink doesn't i mean yeah this is the kind of guy that our society was built for and you can't have a society of you know and carlson admitted like like in the great

Depression, you know, we had a post-Civil War, we had all these other things. Look around. How are we going to, you know, in a serious conservative media would actually talk about this stuff. And so if you ask yourself a question, why don't they? Why isn't, you know, Ben Shapiro as a graduate of Harvard being like, what is this ridiculous woman doing as the president of Harvard University? You know, Adams is used to be the president.

You know, people who are related to the, you know, Quincy's and Adams's and, you know, real serious people from real serious families used to be the president of Harvard University. What is this ridiculous, plagiarist lady doing here? And not one of them, not one of these conservatives will say it's because she's black and all black academics are frauds. All of them. You know, Cornell West is broke, despite the millions of dollars he's been given. because lo and behold, right, he's been married like five times and has multiple children out of wedlock

and spends like a drunken sailor and like, oh, so he's just black. Right. My brother, what you must understand is that I have no impulse control and no time preference because of the natural environment in where my people's come from where food just fell out the trees.

And so we didn't have to plan for winter or anything. So I just, you know, I seize it and I grabs it and I likes it. and you can put a Ph.D. behind my name, but I'm still just a, you know, shucking and jiving. Like, that's, and a serious conservative movement, Dennis Prager, if he was serious, about preserving the, you know, Protestant Wasp America with, you know, a little bit of Catholics and the occasional Jew would call that out, would be honest about that. we say, hey, we want more white people. We want more Protestants. We want more, you know, we shouldn't just be open to everybody.

But that's what they are. They're open to everybody because a coherent Protestant America with a sprinkling of Catholics could actually oppose these people's agenda. And that's the problem. That's by Ben Shapiro, who knows everything I know. Right. He's read the bell curve. Ben Shapiro knows. Ben Shapiro knows absolutely everything I know in terms of race and IQ and time preference and all of that. He knows all of it. So why is he lying about who could come to America and be successful? Well, it's still on YouTube. I don't know if I want to say it, but.

Well, right. The question answers itself, right? You know. Right. Yeah, I mean, he's getting something personal out of it, but not only is he getting something personal out of it, but his first, and he proved this, and that's probably the best thing that's happened in the last couple months is the revelation that a lot of people see, have realized that these are a people who, and maybe it's not necessary, it wouldn't be a bad thing if it wasn't so down. damaging to other people, but they have their... Their first loyalty is to their own tribe. And that's not a bad thing. The only problem is, is basically since 1945, they've made it criminal for anyone else to believe that and to live like that.

Right. And that's the, that's the unprincipled exception of, like, those people, particularly conservative Jews are all about advancing conservative Jewish interests. They'll rail endlessly, Dennis Springer. Why are so many Jews far leftists? Look, Dennis, I don't know.

But it seems to me that if 90% of the Jews are far leftist, it seems to me it's pretty good odds or 80% or whatever it is, but I should be able to say, you know, I don't really want any Jews in my country because 8 out of 10 of them are far left communist agitators. And then Dennis will say, well, you can't keep Jews out just because, you know, we're all a bunch of communist subversives. well why not it's my country isn't it you know Tucker Carlson again to bring up Tucker you know

like my ancestors fought in the war of 1812 this is my country what are you doing here why are you you know like who voted I mean who voted that APEC would have more power than any lobby is a lobbying group in this country right who voted for that who elected Larry Fink head of the financial markets Why can the ADL and the SPLC, I'm reasonably good at this, I think. Why can't I open my own drive time talk radio show and compete and have advertisers and say the things I say that are true, not behind a pseudonym? Oh, because the SPLC and the ADL and all these other Jewish NGOs would destroy my life.

And that's one of the reasons I so admire you, Pete, is you just said, I don't care. Mende Frego, as they say, and, and did it anyway. But, like, why, you know, if we're all about the marketplace of ideas, why isn't there a real marketplace? Who's telling the truth, right? And this is that unprincipled exception that they're always indulging it of, like, you know, oh, racism is bad.

Well, first of all, define racism. And secondly, why is it bad? you know you're racist against honkeys why can't i be racist back well because you're um colonizers isn't that the word colonizer those white people are colonizers yeah what about the irish well they all left to other places so they they they they have to reciprocate and let a bunch people into their country because they all went to other countries you mean white european countries that wanted them there. Like the Australian,

Australia and New Zealand and America and Canada that were like, please show up, we need the labor, please. Before there was a well-fair state. Yeah. It's a complete, right? The only consistent thing, and I know you know this,

for the audience probably knows all this, is the only consistent thing, is it is against white Christian Western civilization. Right. It's just against that. And that's the problem with Dennis Prager is, is a man I greatly admired who died about 10 years ago, closer to 15 now, but Larry Oster.

I found him through his links to, you know, when I was still an establishment conservative, John Derbyshire and Steve Saylor and stuff would link him. And he was an immigration guy from back. the 90s, and he was himself ethnically Jewish, but he was a convert to Christianity, and I think genuinely a convert, but he would attack Jews

as like, as like Dennis Prager is at the same time insists on the mass immigration of Muslims. It's like, okay, well, then Dennis Prager is a subversive, and he needs to go, and he needs to be, like, banned off the airwaves because he's using his platform on the airwaves, the public

Airways to, like, destroy the country. So maybe that shouldn't be allowed. I know that it's kind of subversive that she's doing it from Sweden, but, you know, at least Barbara Lerner Specter comes out and says exactly what she's doing. I mean, it's subversive, but it's openly subversive. Dennis, there are people in this country who believe in people who, you know, call themselves conservatives, good people who believe Dennis Prager is their friend. Yeah, I've actually, when I was in college, I went to go see him.

And there were lots of really wonderful low church Protestant people, the type of people who built this country for whom this country was built, you know, who, you know, Dennis, they would go and they would hear Dennis preach at their church and how ethical monotheism is the mission of America. and American Israel are the two nations in the world who's, you know, reason to the Etre is is spreading, you know, ethical monotheism. And so, you know, you should love Israel and Jews. Like, it's really terrible.

They've been lied to so much, but that's what these people believe. And it's really, really terrible. I'm going to go over. We got like four super chats. Eric says for $3 over an entropy, Pete, you stateist motherfucker. Yeah. Then he says $3, another $3.

He says, no offense taken. Minowen, who's been in the comments here on YouTube, this is Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thanks for all the good content. $50 super chat. That's, thanks. Thank you, Minowen. I appreciate that.

And Tunes... And Tunes, $5.00 Super Chat says, I've referenced D.E.'s model of our guy, our guy way forward multiple times this year. Death to America, long live Americans. Well, I'm glad I'm proving useful. I can't even remember what that is, but I run my mouth so much that. I was trying to remember, too.

Yeah, well, thank you, great much. And, you know, folks, I've given to Pete in the past. I plan to give more to the Pete in the future. Support the people that support you, you know. If you're still paying for cable, please stop. Find, find decent people who are in our thing to do, you know. You know, pocket half your cable bill and save, you know, spend it on food because you need to anymore. But, um.

Dr. Prepper here says, I, yes. I prefer open subversion to insidious subversion. That's why I think wokeness open-as-hee-whiteism is better for us than going back to fresh prints. At least enemies are showing themselves. Exactly right. That is completely true. Better someone just say, I'm going to punch you in the face

and then try to punch you in the face than someone who's like, I'm your friend and stab you in the back. And it's the James Lindsay's and the Chris Rufos and who else was losing their mind about the people who are openly, you know, pro-god and against this whole Satan of subversion. James Lindsay was losing, you know, clutching his skirts about that. I can't remember who else was doing it, but. I mean, there was, uh, Jenna Ellis.

That was the, the lawyer, Trump. Well, isn't she, isn't she Bush's daughter? No, no. This is, this is someone different. She, she was Trump's lawyer. Okay. Let me, well, Janet, Jenna Bush. Tunes, Tunes answered the question.

He said, um, the, he said, what he's talking about are, um, um, when he, um, um, when he says the hour guy way forward a shed weight room communal utilities everyone works for a local business oh yeah okay yep that's right you know i'm glad you glad that that's proved useful and right because planes are going to start falling out of the sky right like nothing works anymore uh you know your local hamburger joint instead of being ready in five minutes it takes 15 And then you go inside and you look at, you know, and it's, it's, you know, a four foot 11 tall and three foot 11 wide, Misteza from Guatemala and a couple of Negroes from Africa and a couple other people of various, you know, backgrounds, who knows what, a couple, a couple Asians maybe running this hamburger place. It's like, oh, 15 years ago, it was a bunch of like one 30-year-old white dude who was the manager and a bunch of, white high school kids this place hummed like a

well-tuned guitar yeah why is you know something as simple as your hamburger stand isn't doesn't function anymore it's not going to get better folks you know I mean I'd be happy to be wrong but if someone can show me a place where things are going to get better

you know yeah you know it's just not So, A. Anninson, this is Merry Christmas and Happy Yule. Jim Bowden. Hey, Jim, Merry Christmas. It says Merry Christmas from Sydney, Australia. Emin I one says, you mean coming to America was fiction? Yeah.

America on track to be Brazil, 2035 to 2040, and South Africa by 20, by 2060 that could go a lot quicker yeah well in the brazil like i wish i was able to do memes because like the the brazil we thought we were going to get you know these gorgeous beaches with all these you know women with firm posteriors and brief bikinis right and you know the brazil you're actually going to get is all these like shanty towns made of corrugated bar corrugated bar cardboard and like tin roofs with sewage running down the street like you know the Brazilian vindication of America. Like, oh,

a multicultural rainbow of hot women in like barely their bikinis. Sounds awesome. Actually, no. Right? You're going to get the favelas. Actually, it would be the opposite of what

of that. It would be the dialectical antithesis of that. Right. But, yeah, I mean, it's

it's going to take something new and it's going to take going through going forward. I mean, there's no, I don't think there's any way to hold on to like this, the idea of this government. I mean, the only reason to even think about taking, getting power in this government is as defensive and offensive. I mean, that's the, that would be the only thing that you, the only reason you'd want to do it because you don't want this anymore, this has to go. And this can't be fixed. It's, it's designed in a way that it can't be fixed. The cancer is, the cancer can't be reversed. Right.

Well, I mean, you remember, I, I still love Tom Woods. I owe Tom Woods a great deal. I don't think I'd be here today without him and a few others, but. any idea that libertarians had of like making the argument and then convincing people should have been shot in the head and drug out back after 2020 right like like i'm sorry most people are sheep they're going to take the vax they let themselves get locked down they let the election get stolen that the these are these are not people capable of being free yeah right yeah and and you

still see libertarians out there who are advocating for self-governance, they're advocating for that, no, people need to be told what to do. People, I mean, if it gets bad enough, you're basically going to have to impose your will on people. Because if you don't, they're going to take you down. And that's why leadership, and that's why, you know, it's more about leadership and finding the right people now than it is about, you know, changing people, changing, oh, if we can just get 10% of the population to change their mind on something. That's just not it anymore. That's not it.

That's not it. It never was. Am I wrong? Nope. Yeah. Yeah, it's just, it just doesn't seem that. it's if right like okay so preger gets millions of dollars to write books

he gets a nationally syndicated radio talk show where he makes millions of dollars you know people advertise with them all the time um you're just as good as he is I'm I'm better than Sean Hannity I wouldn't say that I'm as good as Rush Limbaugh but you know you and I are both pretty good at this whole like yak and endo microphone thing

if people were really capable of deciding for themselves is that the marketplace idea is really a thing why am I not making $70 grand a year to talking to a microphone? Yeah. Right?

I mean, and some I mean, when you look at the like the contracts that these daily wire people get, I mean, Stephen Crowder was like bitching and going crazy over what, 50 million over five years

or something like that? Oh, yeah, set for life money. Yeah. Now, it turns out, like, there's, he's gay too, but like, yeah, right? Yeah. Right. But, like, you know, and, and why will, you know, Matt Walsh, we otherwise like, right? He's a conservative Catholic dad.

We have a lot in common in terms of, like, our daily lives. But he knows where his bread is getting better. And so he won't tell the truth about certain things. he'll edge up to certain things and the reason this happens and the reason the dissident right became a thing is

once you admit and it doesn't take much this is why Prager Gate keeps so hard once you admit that there are like massive biological inborn differences between men and women that are not solvable quote unquote and inherent

and those inherent differences lead to very different outcomes in terms of things like education, jobs, politics, you know, whatever, across the board. All fields of human endeavor, men and women are vastly different. The second you admit that, you have no argument against race, IQ,

or Jews. Wait a second. What about these people that are, you know, massively inbred, have their own religion. They're very tribal. They're all like first cousins or third cousins. You know, how can you prove Kevin McDonald wrong? If you admit that boys and girls are different.

All it takes is boys and girls are different. And someone of us, both sons and daughters, I can tell you, like, massively different. that once you admit that boys and girls are different how do you stop people from going well blacks and whites are different blacks and Asians are different whites and Asians are different because all the science is out there and that's why they get keep so hard of oh we'll talk about this right Dennis will say women are men or women are vastly different we need to find a way to live together Dennis will never say you know actually

the 19th amendment was a horrible idea and anyone who supports it is a subversive communist and they should be you know like yeah of course they should look around letting women vote was a disaster yeah i've been i've been talking lately about how on orrin mackinty show chris rufo was like we need to get CRT out of schools we need to get all this we need to go back to you know to a real education in schools and orrin brought up you know well we also have to get rid of the civil rights act and chris rufo lost his mind yeah well he did what you see many Zionists doing right now. Chris Rufo pointed to a bunch of people on the left

who were against the Civil Rights Act and implied that if you were against the Civil Rights Act, you were on the left. Right. And you see Zionists doing that on Twitter all day now is, oh, if you're anti-Zionist or if you have anything bad, If you bring up the JQ, then you're a leftist.

Yeah, you're a leftist. You're with the woke crowd. And then when you point out, well, who invented, where did this woke ideology come from? Well, no, it couldn't have come from, it couldn't have come from the tribe because they hate the people who are woke hate the tribe. And they get to play this fucking game. And you just wish that you, they were face to face. He can smack them in the fucking mouth. Well, yeah.

And that's, well, notice that, you know, Dennis Pryker is pretty tall. actually, he's probably 6, 3, 6, 4. That's weird. Yeah, but like Ben Shapiro, right? Dude's 5'7 in lifts and maybe 125 pounds soaking wet. Of course he's against violence as a way of deciding things. He's bad at violence, right? Like, you know, I'm not good at basketball.

I wouldn't be the guy being like, you know how we didn't need to decide everything? A basketball game. Like, of course. Right? like dr prepper here says it says yeah anyone you know they do that all the time anyone to the right of me is actually a leftist because and then they'll invoke horseshoe theory right it's like oh well you're you've gotten so far right you're on the left now and i'm sure you've gotten that you know fuck your mother yeah how about that how about you shut your mouth how about you shut your

mouth. How about you such a lying mouth or people will shut it for you? How's that? You know? And it's the unprincipled exception of people like Prager or Shapiro or any of these people that will make you like, well, I don't know. Like, what about Satanism? Like, what about it? I don't think we should have it in public. Well, are you going to ban Judaism? Well, are you guys Satanists? Because like, I mean, seems to me that there's a pretty good case. that you and the Satanus have more in common than you and the Christians. Yeah. Yeah, it's just, it's, it should be, it should be very obvious.

But the problem is, is that the one thing that the regime was really good at doing was convincing people that this constitution and this, this bill of rights is what, you know, is what saves them is what makes them free. so anyone who comes along and defends that they can but here's the and defends that then they're they're on their side the problem is is that you know as edward bernay has talked about you can take the first amendment and the first amendment is the greatest propaganda tool ever known to mankind because not only does it give you freedom of speech it also gives freedom of the press and the press can do whatever they want the press can just go on become the greatest social engineers in the world and they have all this freedom and if you talk about well maybe we need to get rid of freedom of the press oh you're against the con you know maybe we need to get these people in check um we need to check these people oh you're just like Stalin who would you know would persecute anyone who any you know what Stalin did

he won and then he died in his bed like Franco, just like Franco did. Right. And, you know, freedom of the press, like, okay, freedom of press to do what? Again, like liberty to do what? Every war in the 20th century, actually past that, the Spanish-American War, World War I, World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq 1 Every single one of them If you look into them

There's a pretty good case to be made That every single one of them Had some sort of false flag Attached to it Like the Spanish Empire Was on his last legs Spain was broke from a completely Tribalant 19th century

That it had seen what Like three revolutions in Spain And the 19th century You had three carless revolutions Within 20 years Right So they were going to go pick on The United States of America

a country 20 times its size with money and like who just finished conquering the frontier they were going to blow up a battleship right sure right and then what did a her say you know you give me the

you know show me the like I'll give you the war if you show me the right story or whatever and of course the Lusitania right the Germans are like don't sail on this ship it's got a bunch of guns on it then you know the press goes, look at what they did do with our poor passengers. We need to go kill a bunch of Germans and 170,000 Americans

go die in this useless war in Europe that shot the civilization in the head. Never might, you know, like World War II, right? All the stuff you've done with Thomas about that. Like, you know, literally, literally like an audiobook worth of just, you know, a dozen hours or two dozen hours of Thomas

going, breaking through all the different BS that's behind that. You know, the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I forget what the thing in Korea was, but like, just look at what's happened. And again, if Dennis Prager or Mark Levin or any of each other people were, I mean, Wicker v. Philburn is ridiculous. Like, oh, you can't grow wheat to, you know, like, yeah. Congratulations, Mark Levin. I agree with you. Wicked v. Filberin is ridiculous.

Now go after Shelley v. Kramer and Brown v. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Yeah. Right. Because Wicker B. Filberin is ridiculous. but in terms of like what makes my daily life more difficult Brown v. Board hands down hands down Brown v. Board is the worst you know like or Shelley v. Cranber or whatever right

so oh well that's that's that's a leftist racist institute you know like like Earl Warren made like all these other decisions were really bad but this one or two times Earl Warren made good decisions so we should totally be conservative behind that and and um you know or in mackinty who's great credit is is going against and stuff but you know chris caldwell is completely right you know the shadow constitution of the civil rights act

is what has these people in their sights and they believe it and that's that's where we need to say no actually the civil rights act is nonsense because it doesn't put any bound It puts all these constraints on the white Christian majority, on the decent people, and it has no bounds on the other side. There's no like, well, you know, if you're a like fentanyl abusing felon, porn actor who's passing off fake 20s, maybe you just get what you deserve. maybe that's unfortunate we'll send a card to your family but like like that happens

when you do those things like bad things happen to you when you do that and you die of drug overdoses and and it's unfortunate for you but the world's a better place without you in it but i mean it was just some guy who decided that he was going to do drugs it was him alone you know it didn't harm anyone else It had no repercussions on anything that's happened since then at all. It was just some guy who decided he was going to take fentanyl. And then the press, you know, like, I'm sure you've seen the compilations, right? You know, like all the press talking, these are the exact same lines at 37 different local news stations, right?

So all of them said the exact same thing. But that wouldn't have happened if there was no government, don't you understand? The only reason that happened is because we have a government. We just got to end the state, bro. I mean, like, I'm sorry, but those people are so childish and so ridiculous at this point in time. I can just like, oh, so you want government by Larry Fink? Like, the state's the only thing we have is Jenny between us and Larry Fink. And from what I understand, that's what Javier Malay is doing in, um, doing in, in Argentina is he's

privatizing everything and basically selling it to his friends. and guess who his friends are. Go ahead. Stop noticing, goy. Right. But, you know, Argentina used to be a first world country. Argentina used to be wealthy. Yeah.

100 years ago, Argentina was the second wealthiest country on the continent. Oh, third. Absolutely. Absolutely. In 1920, Argentina was doing great. It was 60 to 80% German country at that point

and just, I mean, doing well was just going to be a European country in South America. What happened? Yeah, it was basically Italian and German. Yeah, and I forget exactly. It's been a number of years since I looked it up, but like there's that southern cone

of Chile was like 70% Basque or something Argentina was mostly Italian Southern Brazil was German Uruguay was still is still basically a functioning country which is very small but there was those four you know four functioning South American countries

and they managed to mostly stay out of the First World War and they were more prosperous than any country in the Americas except for Canada and the United States I think

and what's not Cuba was up there too but Cuba was basically Castilian right up until the revolution Cuba was effectively yeah it was much like Chile it was much like Chile was

yeah and pretty much still is yeah right right and so if Dennis Prigger knows these things and I'm not saying Dennis Prigger needs to you know, do what I've done and scream, you know, naughty words all over the internet. But, like, um, if he was genuinely interested in conserving a society, he'd conserve the raw material of that society.

He would do things like, tell women, like, uh, you know, actually, the best thing you can do is get married and have kids. Like this whole, like, oh, well, you can have a career and, like, no, you can't. No, you can't. Like, you can't raise small children and have a career. sorry. Could you ever dealt with small children? You can't do it.

Like being a mom is a full-time job until your kids are, you know, kindergarten-aged, at least. You know, if you want to go back to work after all your kids are in school, you know, maybe. But like this whole idea of, of just,

you know, Ben Shapiro knows everything I know about. who breaks the law and who doesn't. Why doesn't Ben Spirited? Yeah, actually. It's because they're high time preference and inability to see future consequences and low IQ and inability to compete in the marketplace because they're too dumb to actually hold down a job. And, you know, whatever, that makes them this way

and no decent people should have to live around them because they're, you know, violence. and they're violent and dumb. Yeah. Right? You know, there was a kid who just got shot in the head in Oklahoma while he was out looking at Christmas lights with his mom

and I don't know if he's passed away at an hour as I saw he was in critical condition. And it was the usual suspects, right? You know, a 30-year-old guy had been convicted of multiple crimes and shot this poor kid in the head and, of course, he was like, why are we even pretending that there needs to be

much of a trial other than like oh this guy did it yeah like it you know why can't we like oh well you don't normally like you get you get a week reprieve because it's christmas time but come next saturday at noon in the town square right people who shoot kids in the head we do one thing to them in this county you know yeah they go dancing on air and that's it there's nothing to discuss why are we even talking about this right how many how many billions of will be spending in America's prisons on people that should have just been flogged or home. Bob Tona, Bob Tona sent a $25 super chat and said, I think the closer we get to boomers

dying off, the less influence these conservatives will have as the myths of the civil rights movement and the halibunga are taken to the grave. Anyway, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and we're already seeing it. You couldn't see that like 20% of Zoomers or something like that support Israel and like 85 to 90% of boomers support them. So he says, Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Thank you, Bob. Tunes just came in and said, long-term ancestral timeline, bug in or bug out. If you're going to bug out, where? man there's a lot there could do a whole four hour stream just on that yeah um goodness um I'm a big believer in

mountains are good for white people um so anywhere from northern Alabama to Maine along the Appalachian chain there would be decent anywhere in the Rockies

problem is those places are relatively poor so if you can find yourself a laptop job you know by all means do it you know go someplace that's relatively white relatively rural

we can get a little bit um get a little bit of land grow some potatoes get to know your neighbors yep um stay stay out of the big cities

stay out of the big cities they are not going to function now we're going to they're going to have just for reasons of geography and transportation those places are going to get taken back at some point. But right now they're not, they're not viable. They're just not viable. It's not possible to live in Chicago for a decent person. Well, I think we're going to end it right there. I want to thank everybody for showing up to this and everyone who's super chatted. That's

frigging awesome. I really appreciate it. Merry Christmas. Love. Merry Christmas, everybody. Yeah. Love all of you. I try to put something out next week maybe on the 30th on Saturday instead of Sunday because I know on Sunday people are going to be people are going to be getting ready for their New Year's celebration and don't feel like that's just cheesy to do get together with people you love and spend time with them take whatever chances you can to do that and family's important people who share values with you just as much so you got a matter if I can I well first of all Merry Christmas and thank you so much for having me Pete it's always a pleasure and I'm kind of astonish that you put up with me your friendship your friendship means a great deal Merry Christmas but I would if I could just part with one thing I've kind of rambled today and I'm guilty of that but I would say this to people um your sources of information

are vitally important. How many people did Pete save? How many people did other people on our side of the defense save from not taking the Vax and not getting heart attacks or cancer or strokes or what have you? Because they were able to tell people the truth. And as the information environment degrades further, and you've got people who genuinely, you know, like on national television, we'll be like,

we was the charity and we will you know like they're not going to stop this they're not going to they're not going to be able to stop this and those gatekeepers that people talk about as the boomers die off they're they're going to start to fall apart so good solid reliable sources of information who are honest with you and admit when they were wrong as pete has done are going to be more more valuable as time goes on. And so, you know, support the people that support you, whatever that may be. You know, if you got three favorite YouTube shows, if you love Aaron McIntyre and Pete and academic agent, like, kick everybody a few bucks.

Because as time goes on, stuff like this, it's fun now. It could be really, really important in a year or two. So that's all I would say is, is the difference between. me and like a friend of mine who just stayed with Norman conservative media is, you know, I clicked on the wrong link one day and found like V-DARE or something, 20-odd years ago, and now Pete and I are talking. And you could be that V-Dare link for somebody. So, you know, support the people that support you.

And it'll make a big difference. You never know. I mean, I've yapped on the internet for a long time and over many hours. and I've heard my talking points in the mouths of like mainstream people and it's been very very strange to hear that it's always weird to um it's always weird when you when you find out that oh there might be some people out there who are actually on TV and it's like wait a minute is that they hear that on my show yeah yeah that is weird and and um you know That's all I've got to say is just support the good source of information, support people that support you.

And, you know, thank you all very much for your kind of listening. And Merry Christmas. And, you know, thank you so much, Pete, for having me. Thank you. Merry Christmas. So Merry Christmas, everyone. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekaniano show. And D.E. is ready to go.

So, Pete, I don't know if you saw, but we have now, like, redacted messages for, from, I believe, Francis Collins and other people, basically admitting that, like, those of us were like, hey, this is a bio weapon, you guys are doing something weird. This was a lab. You're lying. This is proved now, like, completely vindicated. And now these people want to be like, well, it was a pandemic.

And we didn't know what we were doing. Please don't throw us in jail. No, I mean, that was to be expected, right? I mean, here's what we knew. we knew back then that one day this would come out maybe it would be 70 years you know on they'd release it maybe to be a couple years well we also knew that no one was going to do anything because our people aren't in charge and you know they they just get to walk they get to say uh we we screwed up um and um we were doing the best we can and um you know don't you know but there's nothing you can do about it basically yeah right exactly and that's the thing that that I bring that up because in inner Oklahoma which is a small town outside of Oklahoma

there was a guy who'd been to Charlottesville who had been elected to the city council and he just got recalled after a massive effort by the left hit piece by um NBC news and a whole bunch of other stuff the only place he got any like sympathetic coverage was like VDAIR which that's a whole other thing that makes me super super super I'm super mad, but, right, this whole notion, you know, before we're recording, I was telling you that how your emphasis on elite there is basically the only thing keeping me from, like, crippling depression right now because, right, they're just in power.

And so they get to do what they want. And this whole notion of, like, the democratic will of the people and knowledge of like, no, no, no, no. The vast majority of people, and this is where something where the left is actually correct, right? The average leftist treats politics like their religion. They take it seriously. They will tell other people what to do. And conservatives want to sit here and be like, well, I shouldn't tell other people what? No, no, no, no, no.

Most people are slaves. They do not want to be free. Being free is work. I mean, think about all the reading you've done just on this show that if you're, you hadn't done that reading you wouldn't understand the world at all i was thinking about it as was preparing for the show today like if i was to give someone like a a six pack of like books that you had to read to understand just how the world works basically right i was thinking about it and it's all books that you've talked about i was thinking uncle ted uh nema's book um the bell curve

um race warren high school Bryce Warren High School might be one on the list. But, like, that's thousands of pages of dense political reading that most people don't want to do. John Calhoun, disquisition on government. Like, conservatives are delusional. And it is precisely because they're so delusional that were censored. Because the second that they, because you and I both used to be conservatives and libertarians, the second you like actually tell them the truth

they go oh yeah I guess it is that way and then the next and then the next day they you know they listen to you they accept it and then you see them the next day and they've completely forgotten about what you were talking about

mm-hmm yeah yep yeah they they really get off on being the victim, they get off on being the loser. And then they try to like take this moral stand by doing it. It's like, well, you know, you can't, you can't, I just want to be left alone. Don't you just want to be left alone?

Well, actually, no. Actually, no, they don't want to just be left alone. And they don't want, well, they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave you alone. You want to be left alone and you want to leave other people alone, but they want to be left alone. they don't want to leave other people alone, okay? Their entire existence is dependent on, like, this is Calhoun, right? Like in any society, there's going to be the people that pay taxes and the people that

receive taxes. And if they're the people that receive taxes, whether that's government workers or central bankers or underclass people or the teachers union or whatever, they're the people that are getting taxed, getting the tax money. No public employee ever pays taxes. Yeah. They're just taking money from the, when they pay taxes, it's taken money from your wallet

in your left hand pocket and putting in your right hand pocket. That's all. Yeah. So this. No, good. So this is what, if you can't understand this. And I mean, for the folks listening, congratulations, you know, I've, I've profited immensely from Pete's work and his friendship. And it's a real honor. But, you know, for those of you who are just listening, don't think that like, oh, I'm just listening. Now, this is really, really important. The messages, the reading that Pete's doing here is basically a graduate course in how to unscrew up your mind from the result.

indoctrination for conservatives and it might be the most important project in our entire sphere right now by doing things like reading Calhoun and Camp the Saints and all this other stuff that Pete's talking about you know every single one of the series with Thomas I've said this privately to Pete but I'll say it publicly is like a college class it's it's like a graduate you know upper level graduate college class of series of lectures with Thomas going over

how World War I was nonsense or World War II and you have to understand how all of this stuff is nonsense before you can even begin to fight back because the second, right, what did they say about Mr. Blevins

on this NBC hippies that the only people who would give Mr. Blevins a fair hearing is V-Dair and V-Dare is like going away at the end of the month, tragically. The second, like, oh, if this guy who's from Oklahoma and believes in the people of Oklahoma and the state of Oklahoma, if we let him have his thing, that's basically Hitler. That was the, that was the hit piece on NBC, you know, NBC News, right? So, well, it's the regime, the Nuremberg regime justifying itself in this insane way that, You have to believe nonsense, otherwise, mustache man.

Well, here's what I will say, and this is what people have asked, oh, you know, Thomas, why do you have Thomas on all the time? What, the Nulte episodes, so we have two Ernst Nulte episodes released, and we recorded the third one last night, and it's available to. to subscribers right now. It'll be published by the time this comes out. People really need to listen to those episodes because what Nalti is describing is he's describing a people who existed and still exist. But specifically when he's talking about the 1920s and 1930s,

he's talking about a people who their ideology was spreading all over the world. It had taken over Russia. It had taken over Spain. And it was an ideology of not only killing the physical body, but killing who you are. And the soul. It killed the human soul. I mean, everything about it.

They, they, if you want to know a good picture of what they were, and then, you know, the communists be like, no, that was de anarchist. No, same thing. Same thing. Sorry. Look at the disinterring of the nuns in Spain. Look at them executing 6,000 priests, nuns, and seminarians in a six-month span. Twice the amount of people who were killed in the Inquisition over the span of 300 years. In the span of six months, they killed 6,000 priests, nuns, and seminarians burned down 8,000 churches. they tried to kill Spain they tried to destroy Spain they did more damage to Spain

than 700 years of Moorish occupation yeah I mean at least the Moors allowed them to still be Catholics or or be Spanish right so I mean people forget about this but the Bavarian Socialist Republic was a thing in 1919 the German Navy almost completely over you know

communist stuff they weren't just you know I've been introduced to lots of thinkers thanks to Thomas and I'm I pride myself you know think of myself as reasonably well informed and well read and um compared to your average normally I suppose I am but I'm always learning stuff always learning stuff when when you guys talk and you know I have this you know oh we're going to pick up this book and my my thank you to Thomas stack of books is probably as tall as I am you know but it's because these people you know, and what did they do to China?

They destroyed China, you know, a 5,000-year-old civilization that was dependent on the family and this and right order, the Confucian idea of right order within the family and within the society of these are the duties parents have to children. These are the duties siblings have to each other. These are the duties you have to aunts and uncles or cousins.

Well, in the one child, One child policy, China, there are no aunts and uncles. There are no cousins. There is no, you know, traditional Chinese society. It's been destroyed by the communists. Russia, the reason they hate Vladimir Putin so much is that Vladimir Putin for all of his faults or whatever is turning Russia around and Russia is recognizably Russian again, or at least. you know, trying. And the idea that we can like compromise or come to some sort of an modus vivendi

with people who think that it's normal to like burn churches and like rape nuns. I mean, I feel dirty even using the phrase, you know, rape nuns. It's viscerally, it gives me the creepy crawlies, man. I hate it It's so gross It's so evil It's so disgusting And

The Republican Party And the establishment Will compromise with the communists Over the nationalists Because they have a Please Eat Me Last type attitude And They'll always lose

They will always lose And that's why the elite theory of stuff is so important because all we need is like five guys who are in power in some fashion doesn't need to be Elon Musk, doesn't need to be Eric Prince, it can just be, you know, like Greg Abbott realizing that like, because he was, you know, a big, big ag guy in Texas for years, he didn't do anything about it, but he finally realized, oh, wait a minute, like Texas will be uninhabitable. in 20 years if I don't do something right now. Well, yeah, congratulations. Good job, buddy. Peter Brimler has been screaming about this for 25 years. Good job.

But, you know, I'm sure Greg Abbott would rather be, you know, the governor of Texas as an independent Texas, you know, the president of Texas, than, like, the de facto sovereign of, like, three blocks around Austin. because the rest of Texas has fallen to anarcho tyranny. Those are his choices. And people are screaming for someone to change all this. And you mentioned somebody like a Greg Abbott who, I think you're just using him as an example.

But you mention anyone. And it's going to be somebody who's already in the system. It's going to be a known entity. Caesar was a known entity. Binochet was a known entity. Franco was a known entity. was a known entity. If you're going to scream because, oh, that's an insider, it's always an insider. Napoleon was an insight. Like, these were all, like, you think that these guys were just generals and then, like, like, they were like, hey, man, I'm really good at this military stuff. You should make me a general and let me take over your society. That never happened. Right? Like, these guys had been through the whole system. They'd been through, you know, in Cesar's case, he's been through the cursus honor room.

And done really well, you know, Napoleon was part of the revolution, but he was the best military commander. So that's how the cookie crumbles, you know. People don't want to accept the fact that these people are serious, and they're serious about destroying who you are. I mean, that's what this whole trans thing is. The trans thing is just a picture into what they want. They want to be able to say X is actually Y, 2 and 2 does not equal 4, and we're going to create this issue.

We're going to create this problem. We're going to politicize it. We're going to make it so that if you don't bow down to it, you know, you're a bad person, you're a fascist. And they're basic, what they're doing is they're create, it's a picture of creating, a Soviet man or a Soviet woman or a Soviet woman that is a man who thinks it's a whatever you want to call it. They're creating. It's not even like they want to destroy who you are. They want to destroy all human beings everywhere. Right. They're their explicit goal. They're very, very clear about this. They want everyone to be 10% Asian, 5% West African

13% South American Indio 5% Sami Laplander A little bit of Russian Maybe some French You know they don't want there to be any culture

In the world They'll talk about You know Respect for Indigenous You know whatever Like they're doing it in Australia right now Right that the voice vote didn't pass voice to parliament didn't pass thanks in large part to efforts of men like Blair

Cottrell and Joel Davis and Thomas Sewell nationalists to save their nation but the big cities are doing it anyway well okay um if the aboriginals are so important then why why won't you let the aboriginals just live like aboriginals why do you have to like give them housing why do you have to send them to school why do you have to you know you're destroying the Aboriginal way of life, not that I think much of Australian Aborigines, but like if they're just so special and wonderful and they need to have a voice and everything

and they need to be in charge of the government, they need to be this and they need to be that, then like let them run and run in the bush and eat cancaroos. Why even bother sending them to school? Like if average, being an aborigine is so great. Right? If, if all non-white cultures are inherently superior and inherently better, like go let them be

that. Why? Like, oh, no, you can't have television. You can't have computers. No internet for you. You're aboriginy. And your culture is too important to be polluted by the internet and television and cars and whatever else. No, they want to destroy everything. They're just using all these other things as a weapon of convenience to destroy all human societies. Thomas talked about in the unreleased episode, the one that will be out on Monday, the Potetsi prison experiments in Romania. And basically what these... Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you, I have the book, The Anti-Humans, I have Asimus.com, because it's impossible to find. And if you understand what they were trying to do in Romania, they were trying to re-engineer humanity.

and they were trying to turn humanity into there it's very you can turn somebody into a slave i mean you can you can force someone to work your fields you can't make them you can't take them back to zero and the whole goal was to take them back to zero to destroy and strip everything from them everything from their minds to make them feel like the only thing that they could possibly do was embrace the state embrace this i don't even want to call it an ideology oh it's pure satanism like like yeah that's all it is it's it's pure evil and as as interesting as the multi episodes have been one of the things and this is why we're so censored and so everything been better than us men braver than us men smarter than us all across the world

in France in Spain in Italy in Germany in you know in England um you know fought this they saw the stakes in Belgium you know read what Leon de Grell had to say about like um I put it up on me telegram but I was I was rereading um burning souls over Easter and and listening to your track and it made me cry man like there's a man who understood what the stakes were and he loved God and he loved life and he loved creation so much that he was willing to go like fight and die in this horrible hellscape of the eastern front for it and um he was an exemplar of of that reaction to just how evil communism was or is rather. But

all over the world, there are people who saw it and fought against it. And that's, and basically, you know, we're censored because we're anti-communists. Because the Nuremberg regime exists to like disempower people who notice just how awful communism is. That's the point. Well, it's also to just take away,

everything that we have, and it has. It's taken, there are very few people that you can point to who are operating in societies that have been, I don't even know if you can call them societies anymore, that have been taken over by this where people have a sense of, of their history. You know, when it comes to being, you know, ontological ideas and philosophical ideas as such, the first thing that people should go to is where they came from and who they came from. And that's been all but stripped in most places. And it's something that most people don't even give a second thought to. You know, we're, we live in this gigantic strip mall.

And it's how you operate within the strip mall culture is how you're judged. It's not judged by who you came from, where you came from. That's why I'm so glad to be surrounded by so many people who, you know, in my personal life now, whose families have been living in the same place and operating the same business and doing the same things for over 200 years. Because they know who they are, and they would never leave. There's no thought of them going somewhere else. And they're rightfully suspicious of outsiders.

And that's just not allowed anymore. That's racism. That's fascism. That's backwards. These are just backwards people. Yeah, well, the correct response to that is yes and. Yeah. I mean, if being someone who's forward thinking is being the kind of person that the people I grew up around in New York City who are completely deracinated from anything and, I mean, they're living in a city.

How do you build a legacy in a city? How do you build a legacy in an apartment? where you're renting it's yeah it's tough and and i'm you know like i could go on about at that length but the the the important thing that people need to understand if you're listening to this right the regime hates you and i i can't remember if it was matt from remember who's matt ericson you know like you don't live in a society anymore you don't live in a culture anymore. Was it Matt from

2? Or Matt from Kingfield. Okay, Matt from Kingfield. Yeah, like you don't live in a society anymore. So you don't, you know, if you're one of those people, right, who all of your ancestors were gray, and you live in rural northeast Mississippi.

and your family's lived in that same area for 300 years or 175 years, right? The system's trying to destroy you. You don't live in a society anymore. That's bad. It's awful. There's all kinds of negative consequences to that. But conversely, you don't owe it.

You don't owe the regime anything. you don't owe it the time of day and so instead of being worried about what the regime thinks or what the national news thinks or whatever you just go on and being that person from rural Mississippi whose ancestors all wore gray and you keep your Confederate dollars

because they're going to be worth something again someday if enough people believe it's so right and it might just be in your little corner of northeast Mississippi where confederate dollars are once again legal tender but they might you know but the dollar is not going to be checking you know like so stop caring what the regime thinks live in it um do you remember the late larry auster repeat does that name ring a bell not off the top of my head no

Larry died about 10 years ago. He was a Jewish convert to Catholicism, Christianity, and then Catholicism on his deathbed. Wrote a blog called View from the Right and was pretty influential on me. I found it via John Derbyshire and National Review of all places, actually back in the early 2000s, when National Review was still worth something. But after Obama was elected a second time, he made a great point. and I've tried to live by this and failed sometimes but it's worth saying

that I no longer consider the regime legitimate I'll pay the taxes and obey the laws just because I don't want to avoid jail but this is no longer a government that I can respect that I care about whose good opinion matters to me whose officers

I will you know defer to in any meaningful way. Like, no, none of these people deserve any respect. None of these people deserve. And until Greg Abbott does something to actually help Texans, he should be relentlessly mocked. He should like fear going outside because stand up for Texas, you bleep-de-bleep, bleep, you know,

he should be more afraid of being turfed out and made fun of by the average Texan than whatever the regime thinks because the regime is it doesn't matter it doesn't it doesn't well not to say it doesn't matter in this instance like they can't throw you in jail but like in terms of legitimacy they're not they're not legitimate they're not a government that anyone should respect.

Yeah, they create the situations. They go out of their way to create the situations that would have you have to become reliance upon them, which is why people who aren't reliance upon them are demonized. They seek to, you know, a farmer who can grow his own food, they seek to come up with every possible regulation to make their life miserable. If they own their own land, they continue to tax them. If they dare to sell raw milk, they will show up with a SWAT team. I'm not exaggerating.

I've seen video footage of SWAT teams. Farmageddon is a, I think it was made by lefties, but that doesn't matter. It's still one of those documentaries that you want to see because you'll see exactly what they'll do to people who can provide for their can provide for themselves, can survive on their own and not have to rely upon the government. That's why they love cities so much. They love cities so much because they get people to move there. It's impossible. Eventually somebody's going to get on, uh, you're either going to have a bunch of rich people who move there that they can, they become tax cattle or you have a bunch of poor people who move there who become tax feeders. It's perfect. It's the perfect kind of

synchronicity for them and but weirdly the rich people who will live in cities will continue to vote for these people and the poor people who live in cities will continue to vote for these people but as soon as you get outside of those cities and you're like oh i can actually provide for myself huh well like those are yeah those are the people that they need to destroy yeah well or just like the the whole like the constitution um look at what uh Michaela Scott or McKenzie Scott or whatever

Jeff Bezos is his ex-wife look at the damage she's done with her billions and tell me bills of attainder are a bad thing like no we're just taking that like you're you can live in Malibu

and have your private jet but this whole like hundred billion dollars to things that destroy the country no we're just taking your money right like yeah They don't, people don't get, people will defend that because capital, because quote unquote capitalism. And it's, it's amazing how the same people who will tell you, well, that isn't real capitalism. You know, that's cronyism.

As soon as you start attacking cronyism, they start saying, why are you attacking capitalism? Um, will be because. Because the same thing, dumbass. Yeah. Because, like I said, like I said last time. like I said last time, right? Nobody got rich without

government intervention Jeff Bezos depended on the post office to be rich. If the post office didn't carry his stuff for cheap or free, you know he would he would he would have been able to you know so he's socialist roads and you know Walmart right they use socialist socialist socials roads and and uh

EBT for their employees to cover their low like there's nobody who in the system and it's impossible otherwise to give you just a quick example uh do you know where to see 130 is pete yep Okay, I think it's a really cool airplane. Not a jet, you know, 4-engine tripoprop can land on rough fields, really great, you know, kind of rough field, short-field aircraft. One of those, a new one, is $100 million. dollars near enough like 80 or 90 depending on you know like whatever you know like a fortune that would last like multiple lifetimes yeah and who gets that money I mean and does it really cost a hundred million dollars or is 75 of that being

diverted somewhere else. And 100% though, the money that that money is, which is technically tax money is just created out of thin air, it's inflation at this point. It's going to be turned around and used against you. It's going to be used against you in some way. The people getting rich from this, they don't hate the government. You know, so I think there are people who get rich from the government who, don't like the government at all. They're just taking it as an opportunity and maybe they're

biding their time. There's just probably a couple out there. But for the most part, Daniel McAdams was telling me about a, that when he used to live in D.C., there was this community that didn't exist, and then he went there in the last couple years, and this community just popped up. It's a community from Boeing. It's all people who lobby and work for Boeing. And it's the whole community. well why would they why would they have their own community there well they used to have their own senator i mean you're old enough to remember henry jackson one of the last good day you know like he was no joke the senator from bowing and that would actually be a little bit more honest right like

if if lindsay graham had to wear like a nascar style suit with like rithion and with Donald Douglas and you know whatever whoever else is you know behind him on his as opposed to a 3B suit right

but like of course there's an entire community full of people from Boeing if you could live around a bunch of people that you like worked with and liked and and you know again there's no such thing

as a private billion dollar corporation there's a just i mean go back and relisten to the john c calhoun episodes again reread them read it yourself listen to them two or three times there is no such thing as purely private economy there's people in power and there's people out of power and there's people who are dependent on the state, right? If you have power and money that's somehow tied to the state apparatus, it can't not be. I mean, that's just how it works.

The state apparatus is how we, you know, generate and allocate money and power. that's the point of the apparatus is to like hand out money and power to people yeah I mean I was telling you privately but like I can't believe

I ever took Thomas Jefferson seriously after rereading Calhoun yeah I mean Thomas Jefferson is it's it's platitudes it's wishes it's fantasy it's just it's just

flights of fancy and you know it's one of those ways is one of the reasons why once you really start studying and understanding power you you're like all right i don't hate alexander hamilton as much as i used to because he was one of the only ones who was realistic about the whole thing he's like this is going to turn this is going to be a bank this is going to be a bank attached to a state okay that's what that's what countries become let's just get it out of the way right from the start well or just admitting that power was real i mean something as simple as power is real you're going to have to deal with it and you're right you know for for up until i would say world war one probably we were just a you know I mean, listen to Tom Luongo.

Tom's, Tom's been banging on about this for, like, a couple of years, right? The city of London ran America for 150 years. Yeah. I mean, you can make a pretty good case that, I mean, I don't know how tinfoil you want to get, but like the Federal Reserve, Ross trial, bank connection, J.P. Morgan. Like, I mean, you can make a pretty solid argument that they still do. And, you know, Jerome Powell, the Fed chairman, right, that we're all supposed to hate because end the Fed, it's the most terrible, you know, we're supposed to, I remember hating the Fed chairman for years.

But Jerome Powell is like the one, maybe half a handful of people in Washington who's actually trying to preserve American sovereignty. That might be completely out of his own self-interest of like there's no point of being, you know, king of the dung heap. if the dollar goes to zero but um you know what what's the point of being fed chairman then but jerome pow is actually trying to divorce our system from the city of city of london so you know alexander hamilton might have been a bad guy you know ran around on his wife you know dueled drank excessively whatever uh But he was at least acknowledging that, like, you have to have your own bank to be sovereign. I don't like it, but it's true.

Yeah, it's very easy to look at the Fed because, you know, money printing abilities, what they can do with interest rates, basically. And, yeah, and you'll even get people who are. you know, big fans of the founders, he'll be like, well, Congress should be running that. That's what, that's what Congress is for. Sure, I agree. Should. Should, would could.

Outs. It ought to be like this. You can just act like libertarians all day. But, you know, what is he doing now? What is, you know, as Luongo, yeah, I had somebody come into the, into the live chat on a live stream and, you know, just start arguing. about, about, um, Powell, saying, Powell's not our friend and everything. I'm like, well, go listen to Luongo.

See, he goes, I listen to Luongo. I just disagree with him. And I'm like, that's great. That's, okay. At least that's honest. At least you went and listened to them. You can't get people with platforms that could actually, you know, get a message out there, you know, that possibly could, you know, I'm not a

populist. I'm not, I don't want, you know, like, I think it would be really scary if 200 million people all of a sudden decided that the Fed was, the Fed needed to be ended. Because when you have that, if you have that many people, you're leaning a little more towards what France was in the 1790s than what the United States was, what the revolution, the differences between the revolutions. And really, we don't want, we don't want the French one here maybe we're yeah we definitely don't want the frank one we we can maybe argue about the american one but definitely don't yeah right um but just trying to get through people's goals that okay let's look at the look at what the evidence is look at what he's talking about you know you shared this fortune article with me where he's talking about commercial real estate something i was talking about

in march of 2020 because i said oh all these people working from home all these companies are going to figure, well, we don't need to pay for brick and mortar. I'm like, we're going to have a commercial real estate crisis at some point. And, you know, it seems like he's locked into the fact that, yeah, there's some real bad commercial, there's some commercial real estate problems happening now. And, you know, what happens if we have a commercial real estate crisis? Oh, it's already there. It's impossible to avoid.

There's articles in Forbes. and fortune, so this is not like, you know, team foil hat conspiracy dot, you know, dot biz. Basically, right, and Donald Trump actually probably would be one of the best people to be in office to understand this because he's built a, you know, a billion dollar fortune off of commercial real estate.

But, you know, two generations, three generations of his family involved in commercial real estate. But for ease of math, right? A big building in a core downtown of any big city in America, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, New York, Los Angeles, whatever, is going to be like $100 million. Right? And even really, really rich people don't like just spending $100 million straight up without. any kind of return. So what they'll do is they'll spend $15 million in finance and rest, right?

Because the architects are going to cost, you know, a couple million bucks all by itself. The structural engineers are going to cost millions of dollars. The construction is going to cost millions, tens of millions of dollars. You know, the concrete guys alone are going to cost millions of dollars. No one wants to just lay out this huge sum of money for no return. or no return over time. So they talk to banks just like this is what that, Donald Trump had to go to, you know,

the half a billion dollar fine or whatever that ended up getting reduced. That was over this sort of deal. Well, you know, they have a, like, this thing needs to be, you know, X percent occupied for this thing to pay off. And it's usually like 80 percent plus. Somewhere between 80 and 90, they don't want it like 100% occupied because that leaves them with no flexibility all the time. But like, you know, mostly occupied. Well, all of these and a lot of local governments, right, they're dependent on the property tax revenue brought by these commercial buildings.

Your businesses pay property taxes. If you own the building, you pay property taxes. Right. So whoever owns that building that your office is in, you know, pays property taxes. And that goes to schools and roads and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well, if none of these buildings are actually worth any money, you know, to use the $100 million building example, right, you've got $85 million financed. In order to pay off that $85 million financed, you have to have 80% occupancy other than, the building.

Otherwise, you can't pay the bank back or the building is worth less money. And so the bank will say we have this building worth $100 million. We have 85% of it as part of our portfolio. It's an asset. We can get loans. What if that building is only worth $70 million? Because it's not instead of being 85% occupied, it's 65% occupied. it's 65% occupied.

All of a sudden, the bank has a hard, huge problem because they're not getting, you know, the landlord is not getting paid. So he's going to have a hard time making the note. And whatever the bank is done on the back end of like, we have this gigantic asset. And if they have to mark that down, huge numbers of banks in this country will just go belly up that fast. like instantly because they'll have taken a 5, 10, 15% cut in, in, um, in what, what their evaluation is. And then the margins are too small for them to, you know, just weather that without having a major problem.

And then what is the city going to do? You know, they're dependent on this tax revenue of XYZ tower. That's worth $100 million. They pay $250,000 a year in property taxes. What if they're only paying $175,000 in property taxes next year? What are you going to do then? Where are you going to go up with the extra, you know, $75,000? You know, it's a gigantic mess.

And this is, this is what libertarians ought to be doing is, like, spiking the ball in the end zone on this sort of stuff as opposed to being like, those there is pronouns are this and like illegal Mexicans should be allowed to have guns because everyone deserves to have guns, even though like crazy people who are like high all the time. Well, priorities, right? I mean, really, how many of them own commercial real estate? Of the libertarians, I used to know, none. No, I have not owned commercial real estate. No, I have an uncle who made a lot of money in commercial real estate for a lot of years, especially in the 80s, but that doesn't make me an expert on it.

It doesn't make me, but I can still talk about it. I can still examine it, but this just isn't on, you know, their radar. And it really, I mean, take it to conservatives, too, is it on their, their radar. They're not thinking about it. They're not thinking. I mean, what is it? They could be talking about this or they could be talking about Michelle Obama's penis. What would they rather be talking about? Big Mike. Good. Well, I mean, let's be honest. Talking about Big Mike is far more entertaining. It's entertaining, it's entertaining, yes.

But it's, you know, still, it's like, what are you doing? You know, why are you going after TikTok? What is it? The enemy is within the gates. The enemy is inside. And they keep want to pointing outside. They keep on to point outside. You know, they don't want to talk about.

You never hear them saying, you know, when we get power, some of the things these people have done are criminal. We really should try to, you know, penalize them for it. Take them to court. Throw them in jail. Why would they want to do that? They just want to be left alone. I just want to be left alone. Hey, if you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone.

I used to say that when I was a libertarian. Just leave me alone. I'll leave you alone. and you realize how it's just it's loser mentality because no one's going to say that unless they're losing. But not only is no one going to say that unless they're losing, it guarantees you to lose.

Because if the guy that wants to be left alone is always going to lose to the guy that's like, I want to take your lunch money, I want to kick your grandma out of her house, and I want to screw your sister. Maybe. he only gets two out of three. But he took all your lunch money and kicked your grandma out of your house.

Why are there more people right now talking about Carl Smith than there were 10, 15 years ago? Because people see that friend, enemy is so clear. It's so clear. And when you point that out. to them, when you point that out to the people who are losing and just want to be left alone, you know, just want to win, if we just get Trump reelected, he's going to do everything. Yeah. This pressure release, yeah, this pressure release valve, you know, like, like, you know, how QAnon

was it was the pressure release valve for the first term? What's going to be the pressure release valve for the second term? You know, if he does get elected. Where it's like, oh, we don't have to do anything anymore. somebody's coming to save us. No, no. Well, Trump was president for four years. He had accomplished very little.

And accomplished very little. Why? Because he wasn't in power. And he was in power, but he wasn't using power. And then when you talk about using power, well, that's immoral. Right. Okay. Then the great jury has the best answer to this question.

I believe he calls it Forced Restication It's like no You're just You can go live In the middle of nowhere Even somewhere nice Like you can have your little island

In the Caribbean It's just that you know There's a boat once a month There's no planes There's no satellite communications And you're not in power anymore But notably You know

Who did Carl Schmidt site all the time from America was the Calhoun yeah right like the one serious thinker that like

people cited in European universities was John C. Calhoun like this is so it's not like for the people the one of like that's a foreign weird ideology it's john c calhoun it's translated it's translating john cah calhoun into german that's what it is i mean there's there's

additional insights and i don't want to take anything away from crush mid he was obviously genius but like there are plenty of americans who understood the way the game is played you just haven't heard about them you're not allowed to talk about bottom you know all this paper you don't you don't want to be a fascist do you you don't want to be called a fascist do you well I mean if you if being called a fascist means like I don't think that you should be able to like rape don'ts or sexually

mutilate children or systematically disenfranchised and destroy the economics of American families oh okay fine I'm a fascist I don't care I mean, if you want to be strict about it and be like, do you subscribe to everything Benito Mussolini wrote in the doctrines of fascism? No, I don't. But considering fascism has lost all meaning to the point where Paul Gottfried is a fascist, then, okay, I guess me and me and Paul Gottfried, the Jew, can be fascist together. They're not serious.

I mean, and that's the problem is, is, When you get to this point in, like, Empire, you don't have a lot of serious people. So you look on the left, okay? Who are the serious political thinkers on the left right now? Are there any? There haven't been any for decades. I mean, like, Gnom Chonsky, kind of, but he's lost his fastball for years. And he's very dishonest, always has been.

All this is is a machine rolling on, and this machine was. designed to serve the managerial class. And the managerial class doesn't even have to be that smart. They just have to know how to keep the machine going. Somebody has to figure out, somebody has to step in and go, well, this machine, I'm putting a wrench in the gears. This machine can't go on anymore. But if you talk about that, if you talk about, let's face it, we both know this. This form of government, whatever it is, cannot exist.

Whatever the next thing is, it can't be this. You can't, when a car breaks down, you have two choices. Okay, you know the car is broken. You're either going to fix it or you're going to replace it. There gets a point with a car where you're like, I just can't fix this anymore. I'm just going to replace it. We passed a replacement part like 75 years ago. it needed to be replaced then and people are so into this civic religion of well what else could it be

if it's not going to be this it's going to be fascism okay if whatever you think fascism is if it dismantles this and gives you the ability to i don't know have a farm, have a family, be able to, um, you know, like some countries are doing now. And if you have five kids, you don't have to pay taxes ever again for the rest of your life. Countries that are doing that are being called fascist. Is that okay? No, but Kelly's being called the fascist for like throwing people who have the I commit crimes tattooed on their face.

You're like, hey, I'm just going to believe you when you say like, I've murdered people like when you have the I murder people tattoo on your face and then he's just like okay I believe you that you murdered people and guess what we do to murder people who murder people we throw them in jail and all of a sudden Eibu Keli's a fascist for like hey I think ordinary people shouldn't have to be like worried about like the demon tattoo face guy showing up with their you know their little bodega stand and like taking all their profits for years at a time okay, if that's fascist, right? If Victor Orban and Paul Gottfried and Peter Bermelow and Neibu Kelle and, you know, Curtis Yardin and Vladimir Putin are all fascist, the term has lost all meaning and it should be mocked.

when when you come to a point in civilization and you know there were groups there were groups in Europe in the 1920s and 30s who decided that okay there's a threat this threat will end our civilization it will destroy everything that this that our people stood for that our families stood for that our country stood for this land it will destroy everything it will ravage it like locust there will be nothing left we need to do something and we need to do something and it's going to look it's going to be really really drastic okay that sounds like if you if you've diagnosed a problem that well then well you're going to do something you're going to do things that people are going to look at and go well you maybe you shouldn't be

doing that. Well, maybe they shouldn't be raping nuns. Maybe they shouldn't be burning churches down. You ever seen what happens in a controlled hard landing on an airplane or like with the train that has to slam on the brakes? Yeah. Or a big truck

when they have to slam on the brakes. Like, it's ugly. There's a bunch of damage that's done. It's not good. Right? People get throwing around. Stuff gets thrown around. brakes break and stuff smokes tires get shredded but like if the alternative is like driving off the cliff you got to slam on those brakes and maybe you know bounce into a few trees here and there if the alternative is end up at the bottom of the Grand Canyon it's and it's it's that's basically our choice right now the the problem with those situations I was in an

aborted landing once that really, I mean, it was one of the most frightening things that ever been, and we were literally like 10 feet off the ground when the landing got aborted. And at least you know that you're in danger. The problem is, you know it. At that moment, you know you're in danger. People don't feel like they're in danger yet. You know, when, you know, maybe in 10 years when boomers are going to be loaded onto box cars by their trans grandkids because of something they said on Twitter like, you know, two weeks ago, two weeks before, previous to now. Maybe then they'll get it. But I don't, you know, I don't trust people anymore.

I don't trust the public to do anything. I know people, I judge people by talking to them. The masses are, I mean, wanting, advocating for the individual liberty of masses who don't wouldn't be willing to even step up and speak about their individual liberty why are you wasting your time no these are the people who are these are people who are equally the enemy okay but also they're also people waiting to be led you know the proverbial you know there's a crown laying in the gutter right now And now we're just waiting for someone to pick it up.

But it's like, oh, no, that crowd, that person is going to become a king. They're going to become a dictator. It's going to become totalitarian. They're saying the same thing. They're saying the same thing about Buckelly. They're saying, I mean, guy, what, 87% of the vote? Yeah. So.

Or Vladimir Putin. They've said to say they're not him for 20 years. Yeah. Like, look at that. Maybe 80% of the population wants to live in a society that functions. and they don't care how it gets there, you know, I don't care. I would like to be able to go, you know, visit Big City, X, Y, Z, and go to a symphony. I'd like to be able to go to the opera.

I'd like to be able to go to a concert and not encounter people who are on drugs and who might attack me. I would like Same here man I would like to be able to go um you know buy raw milk from a guy that I know and not have him be attacked I would like my society

to not be invaded by tens of millions of invaders from all across the planet but we're not in power right now and the people that are don't care and they don't play by rules and they don't, I mean, you know, I mean, you and I haven't always agreed on everything, Pete, but like, between the two of us, right, we can come to sort of Komodis Vivendi and like, if we have a real disagreement, we'll, we'll play by Queensbury rules and neither of us won, you know, cheap shots or, you know, but there's no. They killed millions of people with COVID. millions of people were killed on a disease that was man-made in a lab with a cooperation of the United States government and the Chinese Communist Party.

And you're telling me, and no one's going to see any jail time, and no one's going to, like, you have, and most people in America, if you say, hey, guess what? you know the head of the NIH lied Francis Collins lied and they have email proof like like actual honest to God proof that like these people lied and businesses were destroyed tens of millions of people were thrown into poverty you know government balance sheets all across the world got wrecked the economy got destroyed millions of people got sick you know tens of thousands of people hundreds of thousands of people have had this vaccine that has done major damage We don't know, really, in terms of numbers. And nothing's going to happen to these people until you decide that, like, oh, people who will do that to people and murder 60 billion babies in the womb and lie about the Nurembergium regime, they might not believe in rules. I know this is a shock to you, Pete, but, like, if you're willing to, like, murder millions of babies, you might be a bad person. Like, they're just bad people. people doing bad things and until people understand that until they can make the friend enemy distinction and like go through the peak quinonez university of crime think um and and listen

to all the readings you've done and and all that I don't think that they're going to be able to understand and I think that that's why you've been you know demonetized in YouTube and everything else because you're waking people up. Well, you will hear people say we're ruled by psychopaths, and then if somebody gets righteous anger and steps up and says, well, somebody needs to pick up that crown and do something about it, they're more scared of that person than the, I guess, the devil they know. And until they get past that fear, and until they get that kind of righteous anger amongst themselves, why would anybody step up? you know the only good thing to me the only good thing populism is for is for to so that that person out there who wants to pick up that crown gauges that there's a he'll have enough support to do it notice i didn't say she he'll have enough support to do it and yeah yeah if you keep

counter signaling that person they're not going to show up they're not going to show up I know you got to go, so I'll let you. You want me to link to your telegram chat so people can go in and read your musings? That would be very kind of you. Thank you so much for having me, Pete. Oh, well. Thanks. And see on the next thought crime syndicate where I think we just decided, I think we just decided what to do for the next one.

And I think people will like it. Sounds good, man. All right. Later. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. Dark Enlightenment's back. How you doing, Dee? I'm fantastic, Pete.

Thank you so much for having me back. It's always a pleasure to be here. Well, we're going to read this article by Thomas E. Woods, Jr. I've heard of that guy. Me too. I think I know who that guy is. It looks like this was written in 1997, actually. And, yeah, you had brought this article up.

You told me about a couple of years ago. so um you know you had the idea of reading and commenting on it uh why well if i could just fan boy out here for just a second um tom woods if you hear this you're a hero you're one of my personal heroes um i cannot state how much regard i hold you in and how highly i think of you and your scholarship and your stand for what is good true and right and this art this essay in particular, when I accounted it many, many years ago, changed my life because it told me all kinds of things about the true nature of our conflict, that it's not just a economic thing or anything else. It's a religious conflict between good and evil. And I just, the moral

clarity and truth in this particular essay just blew my mind when I first read it like 20 years ago and I think more people need to need to read it and I know Tom is normally very very measured very just the facts you know very dispassionate and I think that's a credit to him but this essay in particular I think he gets a little bit more um

maybe emotional or isn't quite so disinterested scholarly I guess and I think that that's actually a really important part of this is that our enemies they're not just people that like

we disagree with about a 20% tax versus a 30% tax they want bad things because they're morally bad people and I just want to say that Tom Woods had the courage to write this you know 30 years ago

and and it reflects very well on him and I learned a lot from it and so I just think more people should be aware of it. All right. Sounds that's heartfelt. All right, let's get into it. I'm going to start reading and you like always do stop whenever you wish. It's Christendom's last stand by Thomas E. Woods, Jr., 1997. Richard Weaver begins, ideas have consequences by admitting that this is another book about the dissolution of the West. American conservatives have frequently looked to the New Deal for the origins of this

more general dissolution, but both of these giant leaps forward had precedents earlier in U.S. history. The real watershed from which we can trace many of the destructive trends that continue to ravage our civilization today was the defeat of the Confederate States of America in 1865. Our so-called intellectual class insists that the war was fought over slavery, pure and simple, an argument which the southern activist finds himself responding to with a depressing frequency. A similarly myopic approach to history would conclude that America's first war for independence was fought over a small tax on tea.

Aestute observers on both sides of the country. conflict, in fact, recognized the war less as a clash between two systems of labor than between two kinds of civilization. Southern theologian James Henley-Thornwell described the two sides this way. Quote, the parties in this conflict are not merely abolitionists and slaveholders. They are atheists, socialists, communists, red Republicans, jocobins on the one side, and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other. other. In one word, the world is the battleground. Christianity and atheism, the combatants, and the progress of humanity is at stake. Doesn't that just describe the day to a T?

Yeah, it's, uh, whenever you... He could have written that, he could have written that yesterday, but with updates for language, you know, style and such, but effectively, right? And this is why I kind of bothered Pete to get it in in June because we have an alternate religion that is imposing itself on the public right now right if we lived in a Christian country there'd be banners to the sacred heart everywhere in every public space for the month of June but we live in a devil country we live in a demon country live in an evil country and so there are banners to the first sin of Satan all in our public spaces and our banks and all our major institutions,

cow d'ao, to literal Satanism. And Henley Thorneville saw this 150, 200 years ago. Mm-hmm. Yeah. When you look at the list, I just started my reading of The Last Crusade by Carol about this Spanish Civil War. And this is the Spanish Civil War. Atheist, socialist, communist, red Republicans, Jacobins. Yep, it is. I was just thinking about that because I know you and I've talked last crusade is another book that changed my life, but we'll get into that at someone later date.

But no, this is vitally important to understand that these people haven't changed one bit since Thornbow wrote that in, what, 1854 or something? I can't remember when he wrote it, but but he wrote it a long long time ago all right i'm going to keep going this assessment was quite common among southern theologians to the south wrote benjamin morgan palmer is assigned the high position of defending before all nations the cause of all religion and of all truth looking back on the conflict robert lewis dabney one of the most brilliant of the southern presbyterian theologians agreed that it had fallen to the South to defend eternal truths from the onslaught of an alien ideology. Quoting,

Providence ordained that the modern rationalism should select as its concrete object of attack, our form of society, and our rights. Much of the conflict, in fact, can be summed up in what Richard Weaver identified as the two types of American individualism, each of which is endemic to a particular section of the country. Henry David Thoreau represents the philosophy of northern radicals. His is an aesthetic philosophy, which refuses to recognize any authority to which the individual has not explicitly consented, and which in any case tends to shun collective affiliations of any kind. Does that sound like now? Sounds like a lot of,

libertarians, even a lot of conservatives, I think, would agree with that. They would think that any kind of collectivism would be, is socialism, is communism. Anticipating Thoreau, many modern political philosophers, when speaking in favor of individual liberty, have criticized not simply the state, but also the various intermediary institutions, such as family, church, and community that stand between the individual and the state. This is certainly true in the case of Hobbes and Rousseau, who viewed with extreme suspicion any independent association that existed wholly outside of and prior to the central state. Rousseau feared that such associations by dividing the individual's allegiance would impair the functioning of the general will. And John Stuart Mill is only one of the many classical liberals who consider the bonds of community and other such affiliations to be nearly as threatening to.

to individual liberty as the state itself. But the cult of the individual that has flourished since the Enlightenment, and which has celebrated man's progressive emancipation from the various corporate bodies that once commanded his allegiance can no longer claim the moral high ground. For what was supposed to have been mankind's most progressive enlightened century has yielded only disillusionment and alienation. and I would say mass slaughter. Yeah, how many people died as a direct result?

I mean, you can criticize the Civil War, and certainly both of us are now fans of Mr. Lincoln or the way the Civil War turned out. And, you know, when I both spent, you know, a great deal of time talking about this. But the result, right? Some guy once said, by your fruits, he shall know them. Right. And when our Lord talked about that in the Gospels,

you can apply that. Like, what's the 20th century? You know, they lied us into every war in the 20th century after this, right? Yeah, Spain didn't blow up the main, okay? Spain had gone through. How many civil wars had Spain gone through in the 19th century, Pete? Three. Plus the wars with Napoleon, which is effectively a civil war.

war. Right. So there's the three carless wars and the war with Napoleon, the occupation, the total destruction of Spain, the occupation of all Spain and Portugal, right? So Spain, barely hanging on to

its colonies, right, blows up the battleship of the most powerful country in the world at that time or the second or third most powerful country with what five times the people 10 times the economy right yeah you know the lusitania you know world war to we go on and on and on but for our own good these red

republicans these jacobins these secular saviors have lied us into all of these wars that have gotten tens of millions of people killed and have lied about, you know, oh, your social security, where is the fruit? Where are the large, happy families? Where are the beautiful cities? Where are the, you know,

gleaming roads that are in perfect repair? Where's the beautiful vistas with the nice, you know, roadside? Where is all this? Where's this utopia that they promised us, you know, in onward Christian soldiers? individualism has yeah and when you if you would criticize individualism people will say well no we

never real that wasn't real individualism well what what was it oh you the only way it can be individualism if this is if a state doesn't doesn't exist well that's not going to happen so maybe stop maybe stop making stuff up we can talk about the Easter bunny for an hour if people want to or Santa Claus and then you can talk about anarchy

no no no no the problem is you just don't believe in the tooth fairy hard enough and the problem is with those Santa Claus people and the Easter Bunny people because they're both religious fanatics but the tooth fairy that tooth fairy is real well I mean the tooth fairy does create an economic zone.

Well, obviously, that's why the tooth fairy is real. Because the only thing is just economics. Yeah, because Santa Claus is just a socialist just giving you stuff. But with the tooth fairy, it's a fair trade. It's a fair trade. All right, I'm going to keep going. Oh, and before we go on, Warren McIntyre put out an episode this week on his show. talking about

maybe you don't want the state to be smaller? Yes. Brilliant episode. Everyone needs to go listen to it. Yes. He talked about blue laws. For people who don't let know, blue laws would be like cancel alcohol on Sundays

or you can't open any stores on Sundays. And he talked about how those laws actually make the state smaller. And that is so foreign to most people who, you know, believe the state is Satan and radical individualism is Jesus that, you know, they can't even begin to understand why blue laws would make the state smaller.

Yes, and Tom will get into it later than to say, but it is precisely because we've made individualism the load star of our society that the state has gotten so big because there are no more ethnic clubs or there's no more fraternal lodges and there's no more churches

and there's no more associations and there's no more, you know, Tom will get into this in the essay, but, you know, big government is not necessarily bad government. A state that says, I was on with Jason Jason from 2-bit podcast a couple weeks ago, right?

And Jason was kind enough to have me on. And one of the things that got brought up was Jillian Michael was talking about how she was leaving California and she was just really sickened by the legalization of pedophilia by homosexual men. And, you know, she's a half Arab, half Jewish, you know, lesbian with adopted foreign kids who are both, you know, black and Latino and blah, blah, blah, you know, she's laying out

all of her cards. She's got all the cards in the Victim Olympics. A state that just says, that's really nice, Ms. Michaels, but you're like a foreigner and a pervert, so you just don't get to talk here, is much, much freer than a state that just says, oh, we're all individuals, right? this idea that the government you know any use of of

morals enforcement by the government is is inherently wrong because it somehow impinges on the individual's freedom is how we got here you know if we were to wind the clock back to 1997 when Tom wrote this and didn't change any of the inputs we'd end up where we're at

So you need to turn things around. You need to change certain things. And one of those things that needs to change is this idea that the state is inherently immoral when it acts for the common good. Yeah, nothing makes a libertarian anarchist or radical individualist, classical liberals, head explode more than when you tell them that degeneracy grows the state. that it expands the state at a i mean you're talking about you've just you the you just put the pedal on the floor but no they don't want to hear that all you need how much how much who you remember a few years ago matthew mccanay won that uh oscar for um dallas buyers club yeah right um because the government was you know deeply concerned about aids

Who was the villain in that movie? That's right. But the government, right, all of a sudden, there was this, you know, crisis among degenerates that required massive state intervention. And we needed to have all kinds of state sponsorship of, you know, research for this disease and state, you know, state intervention in medicine to get this made and the state intervention to get these people in hospitals. and state funding for Medicare,

state funding for this, and state funding for that, and, you know, a huge state outlay because these people, right, these people gave Anthony Fauci a bunch of power because they were sexually degenerate.

No, but no, Fauci should have been working for a private company. If he was working for a private company, it would have been totally different. you know if he was the only one who could solve the problem no it's the monopoly don't you get that it's the monopoly it's not it's not my actions my actions don't my actions only affect me as long as i'm not hurting somebody or taking their stuff what i'm doing to myself that doesn't harm anyone else yeah and my son still believes

in the tooth fairy, but he's four. All right, let's keep going here. This kind of individualism coincides well with the design to the omnipotence state. The central state also wants to liberate the individual from his traditional attachments, not because they infringe on his liberty, but because they compete with the central state for his allegiance. In order to obtain absolute power, the centralizes, the centralizes, seek to crush, the centralizers seek to crush all competing source of authority. Historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions by claiming that only a strong

central authority can adequately protect the individual. But in practice, from whom did the state protect the individual, from family members, wives from their husbands, children from their parents, from churches, from communities, and it is done so by increasing its own power at the expense of these institutions. What Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature. Once these institutions have been destroyed, once they have ceased to perform their traditional roles, something will step into that vacuum, and that something is the

absolute state. See, this is where people who are radical, yeah, this is a place where radical individualists are going to hear. those last two sets, they're going to, they're going to interpret it the way they want. So when it, when it says historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions, it's like, oh, it's the despots. It's all the despots fault. It doesn't matter if we get rid of churches and we get rid of civic organizations and we get

rid of mutual aid societies. No. We've played your town with foreigners. Yeah. No, no, that's fine. It's the despots fault. But then Tom comes back and he, you know, says, um, he blames, he says, Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature.

That's not something that I remember Sheldon Richman at the Libertarianist to put out a book called them what social animals owed to each other. And when that was announced on Twitter, the amount of libertarians and anarcho-capitalists that went under it and said nothing, they don't even want to know what's in the book. They just read the title. And they said, I don't owe you anything. Okay. All right. That's the game you want to play. If you want to play jungle ball rules, right?

Try building a civilization. Try building a gigantic bank with beautiful parquet floors and fluted columns and towering glass skyscrapers. when we're playing Jungle Bowl rules and we owe nothing to one another and I can just like, hey, I know you've mixed all this concrete for this foundation, but I need it more

and I don't know you anything, so I'm just going to steal it. You sure you want to play that game? But they have $400 AR-15s. And I have a bunch of friends, and they don't have any because they're individualists. That's the problem. See, that's the thing.

You know, I'm sitting here where I'm sitting, and I know that if I get into trouble, there are people that I can call who will show up and who will help me. And I'm talking about violence, with violence. How many people talking about individualism have that? How many people have gone out of their way to build a kind of social capital

that these people would grab their guns and come and help protect me and protect mine. And I would do the same for them. How many of these individuals have that? Very true, I imagine. Yeah. Yeah. As they're hiding, you know,

as they're hiding in their homes, you know, during COVID, tweeting about how brave they are because they didn't wear their mask in their living room today. The political science, go ahead. And actually, just a brief point about that. Okay, so all those, who are the people that resisted the COVID shot?

Those were the people that were attached to intermediate institutions. It was the people who had a strong attachment for their church. It was the people who had a strong attachment to something else in their life that could say, you know what? Someone at, you know, Broaderie Club or someone at my church or someone else, you know, said, this is nonsense, and here's why. And then I looked into it, and I found out it was nonsense. And, right, I was having a conversation with someone yesterday,

and they didn't know that, like, the United States blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. And they didn't know that, not because they're ignorant person or they're deliberately ignorant, they're just up to pay attention to news, because they pay attention to mainstream news and the mainstream news never talked about the fact that the United States made war on Germany. Right? So it is only the people

that have these intermediate institutions in their lives and it could just be like a group chat but had a source of information and a source of solidarity outside of the total state that were able to resist this. so we've seen it in action you know and i would say that there were a lot of people who flying the libertarian individual banner places like reason magazine and cato cato where that homosexual deviant david

David Boaz, who's burning in hell right now, who died recently, used to, well, never mind, I won't talk about the things that have been told about people who worked at Cato, especially young men who worked at Cato, young college-age men who worked at Cato, and David Boas.

You know, they defended the regime. They came out with articles about the libertarian argument for vaccine mandates. And the way they get around that is, oh, well, we just ran an opinion piece. Okay. In my opinion, you know, you should have all

your wealth confiscated. Your building should be salted, raised, and then salted. You know, there's prime real estate in Washington, D.C. that would be better used as a garbage dump rather than the Cato Institute, because Cato, right, Because Cato isn't actually interested in building up these intermediate institutions and actually making people free. No, they will write articles to tear them down and say that they're unnecessary. All we need is an economic zone.

You know, with a little, you know, just cut about 20% of regulations and everything will be fine. You'll have some more individual liberty. The political scientist, J.N. Figgis, was particularly prophetic when he remarked earlier this century, quote, more and more, it is clear that the mere individual's freedom against an omnipotent state may be no better than slavery. More and more, it is evident that the real question of freedom in our day is freedom of the smaller unions to live within the whole. How many people won't let Texas be Texas now? because, well, the trans-disabled lesbian in Austin isn't free in Texas. So we, we, the total state, must intervene on the behalf of the trans-disabled lesbian in a wheelchair and make sure that people in Texas aren't able to live the way that they want. Because they decided as Texans, like, we like guns.

So, his most libertarians, radical individualism, and big government, are two sides of the same coin. It has been part of the genius of southern civilizations who have recognized this all along. Repelled by a philosophy that would lead to a combination of moral anarchy and political tyranny, John Randolph of Roanoke,

Weaver's second type, would have none of Thoreau's pop theology of radical individualism. He acknowledges, good. Moral anarchy, anarchic tyranny. This is all... You know, truth, I'm no fan of Hans Erzvon, Hans Erzvon, the Catholic theologian, modernist, terrible in many, many ways. But one thing that you did say that was really, really great, is that truth is a symphony.

If you hear something true, it might just kind of be the windward line off in a distance, but it's going to harmonize with the violin line that you hear somewhere else. So, I hope people include a link in the show description to this essay. But when you read it, think about all the other true things that you've heard, whether it's Oren's book or Sam Francis or that we discussed a couple weeks ago on thought crimes indicate if there's anything you get from this essay. Think of how many times you could say, oh, that could have been written yesterday. or that describes

you know, like think about all of this stuff that's consistent with what you know. All right. He acknowledges with Aristotle that man is a political animal and that it is only through his interaction

and relationships with other people and through his membership in society that he becomes truly human. Randolph's defense of state's rights, on the one hand, had a repudiation of arbitrary central authority, explicitly recognizes the individual status as a member of a corporate body, in this case, a state. Yeah, that's one thing that you'll hear some of the libertarians

who don't want you to know that they're leftist, but the easiest way, I mean, there's tons of easy ways to find out when a libertarian is really just a leftist or progressive. States can't have rights. Only individuals can have rights. Well, that's not the point of state's rights, is that you can only have rights as a member of a body. And this is something that C.J. Engel and I were talking about saying that rights don't come from nature.

rights come from a historical, cultural model of who and where you came from. They're historically contingent. Right. Yeah. You cannot have, as soon as you say rights are from nature, rights come from God, while they're universal. That means that every street shitter walking over the border has the same rights as you do. now. And you can't say anything about it. Right. And I have

no right. You know, I mean, my particular Bayloric right of urban planning and city like, so if I have no right to defend my hometown, I have no right to defend my home. If I can't say that this is

a town full of you know, Scott's Irish people and there's the Catholic Church and the Presbyterian church and that's it. and if you're not scotch you know if you're not scott's irish or married to a scott's irish person you know kindly move on down the road yeah then i have then i then i then you know i have no right to like maybe what about my right to not have low trust foreigners you know traipsing through my yard

because they felt like it you know they've got a right to be there right they live here too what's your problem yeah i mean how can you have private property if you have if rights are um universal everybody has the rights of everything you just fight over it that's it's basically if you if you believe in universal rights you basically believe in you're a um you're a darwinist You believe that, you know, that I don't have any, I don't have any legacy. I don't come from anywhere. I don't have a people.

I don't have any. It's just everyone for themselves. Or you have a cultural historical right that a group of people agree upon. And if you're not a part of that group, maybe you can marry. into the group and you can adopt these beliefs. But these beliefs aren't for anybody who's just walking in. And people just can't get that because we live in a democracy, bro. And people have rights and people are individuals. And the state, the existence of the state is just, I mean, you can't be, you can't have individual rights if the state exists.

bro yeah well hans talked about this in multiple times but in democracy the guy that fails right like the the border is just merely the collective property line of the net taxpayers of a particular polity and that the net taxpayers of a particular polity don't want you to cross that mind for whatever reason they should be able to say hey keep out

and keep going. It is almost unnecessary to point out that over the past few centuries, it has been the rose brand of individualism that has flourished in Randolph's, which has suffered a precipitous decline. As Richard Weaver explained in 1948, quote, for four centuries, every man has been not only his own priest, but his own professor of ethics, and the consequence is an anarchy,

which threatens even that minimum consensus of value necessary to the political state. Today, of course, the message imbibed by our children and by all too many adults as well is that no moral court of higher appeal exists apart from individual whim. Bro, I just decided I'm a girl and I'm going to put on an address and you have to let me change with your daughter or you're a bigot. Yeah, I'm like six, four. and 250 and fat and have a beard.

But I'm a pretty girl, Pete. You have to let me change in the same changing room as your knees. I'm just going to take your word on that, and I don't want to see a picture. And this is the absurdity, right? like of course I don't know those things but like no more core apart from individual whims

so we have this absolutely insane person it's like I am a pretty girl and I am a six foot four man with a beard and you have to let me into the same changing room as your 12 year old daughter because my individual whim says so

as long as they're not hurting anyone okay as long as they're not hurting anyone but what happens after they hurt someone because they're really likely to hurt people because they're crazy and evil what then how about we just prevent them hurting people

by saying yeah no no like you're not a pretty girl in a dress you're just a crazy person who needs to be locked up for your own good and the good of society. But you're acting like the overwhelming majority of these people are on meds. Yeah, maybe they are. And if they're not, they should be.

Maybe, maybe a dude who's 6'4 and 250 pounds who throws on a sundress and then says, I'm a pretty girl who's 12, Maybe that's your first clue that this person is, in fact, crazy as shit and probably doesn't belong in normal society. Continuing, it is highly significant, therefore, that the U.S. Constitution makes hardly any reference to individuals at all. It views Americans, not as part of an undifferentiated mass, but as members of particular

states with rights and traditions of their own. The Bill of Rights, moreover, erroneously invoked by modern civil libertarians, was never intended to protect individuals from the state governments. Jefferson is far from alone in assisting that the only federal government, that only the federal government is restricted from regulating the press, church-state relations, and so forth. The states may do as they wish in these areas, and they know this, and that's why Roe v. Wade, That's why when the Dobbs decision was overturned, they lost their minds because they know it goes back to the state. And a state can be, well, you can't get an abortion here. And an abortion is an abortion is their sacred, one of their sacred sacraments. Well, yeah, my friend Spector, the third rail many years ago, you know, we were joking around where he came up with an insight.

You know, USA stands for usury, sodomy and abortion. and it has for a long, long time and when you have a society built on free money and sexual immorality that's a society doomed to fail. Nine of the 13 original colonies, I think, had established churches.

You know, men were for sodomy. What was Maryland? Maryland. Yeah, it was Catholic. Men were hung for sodomy in George Washington's Army. Thomas Jefferson thought that

Sodomite should receive a deck penalty. Thomas Jefferson, this is not, you know, archery actuary, cryptosist Alexander Hamilton. This is old T.J. Pot smoking, libertarian himself thought sodomite should be executed

right and if you didn't like you know the way of particular state and there were actual conflicts Tom talks about these and other books she's talked about but like you know if you were from Rhode Island and you didn't like you know and this happened a lot actually you know particularly

obnoxious people would be like well I'm a congregationalist and I'm going to go into Massachusetts the established Puritan you know state and just be obnoxious and cause trouble. And they'd be like, well, we don't want you here. Leave.

You're deliberately being a pain in the ass. Go away. And if me, as someone who lives in a red state, I don't want like pornography billboards on the side of my street, on the side of the highway. You know,

I don't want my child who's just now learning to read going live nude nud girls. Hey mom, why's that lady not have any clothes on when we're driving on the street? I want to be able to ban that. I don't care about your first man right to display pornography to small children on the side of the road. And millions of other parents should have the right to say,

yeah, no, no advertising, strip clubs on billboards in our state. Well, I mean, that just means you're a prude of some sort and, you know, you hate other people's freedoms. You just want to. Yep. And I have rights too. Why can't I live in the kind of society I want?

Why do sane people, normal people, historically the norm people, why do they always have to give, give. to red Republicans and Jacobins and crazy people and perverts. Why is it always that I have to lose and you get to win? And any time I say, hey, I object, you get to follow me home until you're sitting on my front porch, blaring obscene music and showing my children pornography. Because technically speaking, being right outside the sidewalk in front of my house,

you're in public so I can't just shoot you technically speaking I didn't follow you home no everyone on my streets you'll say hey cut that out or we're going to you know solve this problem as a corporate body we're going to engage some

some collective self-defense and stop you from acting this way sounds like fascism to me d sounds like fascism yeah well that's i i i no longer really care about that sort of label call me that all day long yeah it's like and you're a fascist and what are you going to do about it kind of kind of honestly disappointed there was a fascism test going around in the the very good you know private group chat for the show

and uh and i only scored like an 87 i don't know out of 100 i think i got an 80 i think i got an 83 oh wow i mean i was hoping for a 90 you know i was hoping for an a but i'll take the b plus yeah i'll be fine with the b all right for the first seven decades of its existence the united states found its constituent parts very rebellious indeed many americans would have agreed with john randolph of Roanoke about whom John Greenlift Whittier once wrote To be honest or too proud to fain A love he never cherished

Beyond Virginia's borders line His patriotism Perished Not only was John Ranoff a great American A great man But like how absurd is it That we have military bases from Maine to

Hawaii and from Florida to Alaska and that someone from Hawaii, a congressional representative from Hawaii, a senator from Hawaii can vote on stuff that happens in Maine or someone in Florida can vote on stuff and that happens in Alaska or that some Alaskan can vote on something that happens in Florida. It's ridiculous. You know, maybe if you were in Alabama, you might have some say about, you might have some say about, what happens in Georgia and Florida and Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee

because those could affect you. What do you care what happens in Idaho? Like if you care what happens in Idaho as someone from Alabama, there's something wrong with you. Well, because what they accuse us of is what they're always guilty of. They accuse us of caring about what's happening,

you know, what they're doing in their bedroom across the country while they're, you know, worried about what we're doing. You know, if I never have to go above the Mason-Dixon line again, I'll be happy. I'm fine where I am. But, yeah, they're, they, You know, and another thing is they hate us because, you know, we believe in God, we go to church, we do this. I mean, they have their own God.

They have their own church. Yes. They have their, and they don't realize it. They don't realize that, like, you know, if they find out that Alabama outlawed abortion, they're going to want to do something about it. Okay. Why? You live in New York. what do you care

why do you care what happens in Alabama they're just a bunch of dumb rednecks anyway why do you care well they can't be dumb rednecks why why can't they be dumb rednecks

I mean if you think that they're a bunch of troglodyte knuckle dragging hicks who you know drive f-250s and smoke you know smoke marlboro reds

and dip and you go to even those hurt yeah yeah right why do you care what these people do

oh because your religion compels you to well my religion compels me to stop people murdering babies yeah well so which religion is true well there's only one way to solve that particular problem

and it ain't through argumentation ethics Nope Oh no No I I caught you in a performative Contradiction

I win I win Oh wait Why are you pointing a gun at me Oh because no one give Because no one in the real world Gives a fuck about argumentation ethics You have to be some autistic

You know Frigin I'm not gonna straw man them. But they, yeah, there's just, I mean, theory is fun. Yeah, I like reading, I like reading theory. But I also exist. I exist in the real world. And in the real world, there are people, and there are people who you have to, you either respect their boundaries, And you do what you can to help them if they need it or you are going to have chaos. And the best way to not have a problem with helping them or even having the local government force people to help them,

but which you don't really need to do if you share a culture. And you share values, you share religion, you sound alike, you look alike. You know, there was no problem in Sweden with their gigantic welfare state until they started importing, until they started emptying the prisons of Africa and putting those people in there. Then it became a problem. Until there was a bunch of money speeds, yep. Economics aside. Yeah, it wasn't a problem.

because they all looked alike. Well, they believed alike. They were all in different Lutherans. They were all Swedish genetically. Right? They all came from the same places. Right? You could,

um, if you've ever been to Europe, right? Then, yep. and live there a significant or spent a significant amount of time there live there yep then you can start to recognize like that guy's not just german he's like bavarian you know like pure bavarian phenotype is a thing right like oh that guy's a saxon well how do you know i mean we'll just just look at the guy he's from saxony all of his parents grandparents great grandparents great great

grandparents. All of them were Saxons. And probably he came from this, and I'm not very good at it, but if you spend any significant amount of time in, you know, Europe and start to notice these things, you can notice like this guy's from this place. And most of the time you're right. Right. One of the rules I have in my life is that no one, no woman with East Anglia face, should ever be allowed to have political power. And you can see it, like kind of the pinched schoolmarm look, the Elizabeth Warren, Governor Kate Brown of Oregon, right? Like, mm, nope, nope, just no. You look like you told Goody Thompson, you know, said Goody Thompson was having sex with the devil. I'm just not going to let you have political power.

Because that East Anglian school marm stuff just leads to disaster, as Tom has elucidated here. all right let's go we um we got we got more to i just checked we'll get a good bit more here so all right upon ratifying the constitution for example several states explicitly reserved the right to withdraw from the new union quoting whatsoever the same shall be perverted to her injury or oppression unquote and all the states retain the spirit of resistance well into the 19th century. John Taylor of Caroline, repelled by the Alien and Sedition Acts, advocated tocession as early as 1798. Madison and Jefferson drew up the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions,

respectively, the latter of which suggested the doctrine of nullification, whereby a state government could interpose between the people and the federal government when the latter exceeds its legitimate constitutional authority. And Tom has a full book called Nullification. You read, all about it. After the Louisiana purchase, and then again, after Jefferson's 1807 embargo, former Secretary of State Timothy Pickering gained some temporary support for a plan by which New England and New York would succeed and form an independent country.

The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard. Yeah, right, yeah. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard as secessionist in character, but we now know that it was convened by moderate federalists who hoped to keep secessionist sentiment at bay. The point remains, however, that secessionist sentiment was widespread and by no means was it confined to the South. And these are but a few of the lesser-known examples of the jealousy with which the states once guarded their sovereignty and independence. The nullification crisis of the early 1830s, for instance, has not even been

mentioned. The secession of the southern states was virtually the last sign of life to emerge from a once vibrant federal system. For by the 1860s, such figures as Andrew Johnson and Ben Wade were prepared to dismiss as traitors, anyone who even applied, appealed to the Constitution, let alone advocating secession. And in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 1869, that secession was unconstitutional. Not surprisingly, after the war, it became common

to replace the old expression, the United States are with the United States is, or these United States, they replaced these United States with the United States. Most significant for our purposes was the ratification by highly questionable means of the 14th amendment. Now we can debate the original intent of this amendment, but it seems clear that it inaugurated a radically new stage in American constitutional history. From the point of view of the federal essential government, the fundamental units of the federal union were no longer the several states, but the individuals of which those states were composed. Can I talk about this for a second? Sure. That. So just as an exercise, it's a useful thing to do.

copy and paste the text of the 14th Amendment into your word processor. And then do the same for the first 10 amendments. The 14th Amendment is like as much text as the entire Bill of Rights. I'm pretty sure. I've done this a couple times and I can't, I don't have it offhand. But right, like it is verbose to the point of being absurd. And Chris Caldwell has talked about this in the age of entitlement. But basically, we live in this 14th Amendment state.

where everything is justified through this particular interpretation of the 14th Amendment, right? Like liberals and conservatives are arguing over good faith or bad faith interpretations of the 14th Amendment. You know, the reason that the Constitution had, like, in the very, very fine print that gay dudes can get married, quote unquote, married, is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't regulate who lives on your street as a neighborhood is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't prevent people from posting pornographic billboards in public is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't, the 14th Amendment has basically taken over the rest of the Constitution as like the lens through which everything is interpreted. and everything bad that we're dealing with, whether it's sexual perverts or an overreaching state

or, you know, racial problems or problems between sexes. All of these come down to like this weird interpretation of the 14th Amendment that like the 14th Amendment demands we'd shoot ourselves in the head on behalf of trans-disabled lesbians and wheelchairs

or like America isn't real and you know if you don't think that the 14th Amendment demands this interpretation you like hate America puppies apple pie and all things good in the world and Orrin talks about this in his book

but like the 14th Amendment has been so abused and so perverted that I think the only way to deal with it is it's just scrap the whole damn thing and I don't I'm not a lawyer and I wouldn't be the first person to ask of how to how to fix it

but you just can't allow this sort of egregious misinterpretation to continue because it's been proven to be so open to abuse yeah I just did this really quick. I did some quick copy and paste.

I made a document. The 14th Amendment is one page of this PDF with a little bit of the First Amendment at the bottom of the first page. The Bill of Rights goes through the second page and one line on the third page. So basically the Bill of Rights is about four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment.

So 10 amendments are four or five lines longer than the 14th Amendment. Right. And all of it's been abused. Every single clock has been abused to the point of making it just something that we can't depend on it anymore. It has to be scrapped. Another good book, Tom Woods, and I think Kevin Gutsman,

um who killed the constitution shows how basically every goes through every basically um every all the bill of rights and i think through all the amendments and shows which president and how they basically destroyed them all yeah yep so yeah great great book highly highly recommended all right let me see okay where it was were composed. Okay. The architects of this constitutional revolution were less than candid about what they were doing. The beginning of this process by which American federalism was destroyed was couched in the saccharine language of justice and rights. The states cannot be trusted to protect

the individual, Americans were told. Only the federal leviathan can do this. So once again, in the name of protecting individual liberty, the central state set out to crush an important intermediate institution the state governments well how yeah i got an argument many many years ago with a prominent conservative guy who was decrying uh how awful the federal government was and i pointed out to him like bro without you know federal funds your state government is broke what are you going to do right the state governments are no at present moment are no more than pass-through entities for federal funds Medicare Medicaid SNAP benefits section 8 housing state highway transportation funds right look at your state's budget how much of that is federal funds. I guarantee you, guarantee you it's at least 30%. And that doesn't count like federal matching grants for local school districts that don't necessarily touch the federal

budget or the state budget. I guarantee you at least 30% of your state budget is federal funds. So the states have effectively been erased as sovereign entities. I mean, never let, you know, never mind the 17th Amendment and whatever else. But, The state governments have been destroyed and they've been conquered and they're merely just past three entities of Levite. Yeah, I mean, I've tried to tell people this as somebody who, you know, has worked in an official capacity at one point that, you know, if your state has, like, emissions testing, it's not because the state wants emissions testing. it's because the federal government wants emissions testing in your state and has said we will pull funds

if you don't do emissions testing in your state. Right, the 55 mile an hour speed limit. Yeah, all of that. Yeah, 55 mile an hour speed limit. Insurance, car insurance, seatbelt loss, all of that. All of it.

All right. But although a moderately conservative Supreme Court was able to keep at bay the utter obliteration of the federal system, the 14th Amendment has since become Washington's favorite tool for imposing its will on what remains of the states. The human rights that it seeks to protect grow stranger and stranger every year. The 14th Amendment was invoked a few years ago, as you no doubt will recall. call to vindicate the inalienable human right of an unqualified overweight woman to attend an all-male military academy.

Noted that that woman is now in Congress. That was Nancy Mace. And she's a disgusting, disgusting person. But that was the Citadel. And it's like, this was written 30 years ago. Right. Now we literally have, instead of women attending the Citadel, We now have, you know, men bathing with women, people in wheelchairs demanding that they be allowed into professional sports leagues.

I mean, there is literally no limit to which these people will stretch the meaning of words, and it is beyond satire. The British Libertarian and Southern sympathizer Lord Acton saw all this coming and expressed his profound. anguish to Robert E. Lee in 1866. Quote, I saw in states' rights the only availing check upon the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction, but as the redemption of democracy. Therefore, I deem that you are fighting the battle for our liberty, our progress, and our civilization, and I mourned for the stake that was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo.

Well, look what happened. Germany is no longer sovereign. Italy is no longer sovereign. Spain is no longer sovereign. England is no longer sovereign. They're occupied by American troops. And anytime, I mean,

AFD is pretty moderate. But the German federal, you know, deep state, intelligence agencies are monitoring those people and throwing people in jail for saying that the German should be Germany should be German, right?

My friend Mark Collette can't organize his political party, his patriotic alternative. They've been erected by, rejected by the Electoral Commission like 10 times, right? So Lord Acton was completely correct here. You know, they saved themselves at Waterloo, but that same Leviathan, which won at Richmond, has taken over England, France, Germany, Italy is taking over Poland right now, is taking over Spain. But if there was a genuine popular revolt in Germany, you know, and they were playing El Slender Rouse, as they did it, does anyone really really doubt that the American

troops stationed in Germany wouldn't just go out and crush those people? Do you really think the American troops who were stationed in Germany you know, who are there because of the Cold War which ended 35 years

ago? They were supposed to... They were never there for the Cold War. I mean, that... Sure. Yeah, okay. But it was to keep Germany in line. It was to keep Europe in line. It was to keep it was to keep Europe under

Zionist control. Right. Well, of course, you and I both know that, but like the, the ostensible reason, right, is like, oh, we got to have U.S. troops in Ramshund Air Base because, like, fold the gap at stuff, bro, like the German, brave German firebacht will stop the Soviet tanks at the

fold of gap and we'll fight shoulder to shoulder with, you know, the Bundeswehr to stop the communist menace. Well, okay, well, maybe if Germans, as Germans say, you know, we don't feel like having all these people who are foreigners here who rape children and don't work and don't contribute and produce graffiti everywhere and have kids that they, like, they're destroying our country. We want them out. What is Ramstein going to be done? Like, the U.S. Air Force will be used to bomb those people in Germany.

Because Lord Acton was completely correct. All right, I'm going. Just as Northern Radical sought to make the individual the fundamental political unit, so also did they attempt to make him supreme in the moral and ethical sphere. This is particularly true in the case of the abolitionists, many of whom stated frankly that if forced to choose between their private beliefs on the one hand and the Holy Scriptures on the other, they would be compelled to jettison the Bible. What Southern theologians found especially alarming was the dubious method of argumentation

which the abolitionists employed. They might have argued, to offer just one. example, that biblical slavery might not be analogous to modern slavery. There were certainly a number of such arguments, which, if not compelling, at least were based on relevant considerations. But the abolitionists tended instead to make vague appeals to the spirit of the New Testament. And the results of this kind of reasoning, the Southern Divines recognized, was the moral anarchy that ensues when, as we ever put it, every man becomes his own professor of ethics. It is worth recalling that a good number of anti-slavery feminists took the next step and compared the status of the slave to that of the married woman.

In fairness, a great many abolitionists were horrified by this line of argument, but having made their bed, they were now being forced to sleep in it. Dabney was rather amused at the spectacle of anti-feminist abolitionists, desperately trying to refute feminist claims, when in fact the feminists were only used. using the abolitionist approach to biblical exegesis. Pete, have you ever taken a road trip to rural America? Yeah. I mean, I live in pretty much. I live in pretty rural America. Okay, so I've done it a few times.

An interesting exercise for you folks out there in radio land. Once you get like really rural, I've had this experience more than once. Hit search on the dial, right? The rock station, pop station, and then you'll hit, you know, 989.7, low end of the dial,

low power, and this is Bible hour, but Pastor John. And today we're going through the Bible, chapter you know gospel of john chapter two verse three and he'll preach on that for an hour and the next thing you'll hit is 91.7 national public radio for upper missoula valley and then sh shh through the rest of the dial

and the only two radio stations you'll get in large parts of rural America are NPR and the Christian radio station for the exact same reason this is very real you are not lying from a lot of things

but dishonest isn't one of them the reason those two radio stations is the only stations you can get in large parts of America is that they're both religious radio stations. NPR is just religious radio for secular liberals. I'll never forget, you know, many years ago,

I was sitting in my coming home from church, and I like to listen to the enemy's radio. And, you know, morning edition Sunday. And they had their segment with their ethicist. And I was just thinking to myself, what the fuck do they have an ethicist for? Like, I just got back from church. If I really want to know what, if I have an ethical problem, I'll go see my pastor. And then I realized, wait a minute, none of these people have a pastor.

NPR is their religion. Like, this is just religious radio for shitlips. And, right? So all of the disaster of the 19th Amendment. I mean, I've talked about it. You know, if you really want to understand how bad it was, talk to our mutual friend, Charles Bediel, right? But like, this is the same impulse.

These people are just secular progressives. It is just as much a religion as I declare that the KGV is the only valid, translation of the Bible and anybody who uses anything other than the King James version is a heretic and an apostate. You

must understand that this Bible is the word of God. There's no difference. And the lie is that the NPR person will say oh, well, we're not religious. we're just telling you the news bullshit you're just as religious as the guy who thinks that

everything you ever needed to know was in the king james bible he's just honest about it and you're lying yep i mean it's 100 percent what i mean everything you said was true it's out here. Yeah. And it really is. It really is when you meet somebody who is a liberal, says they're a liberal, if you meet somebody who, if you meet a college professor, they have NPR. When they start their car, NPR comes on. It's their re-legistation. 100%. Cannot argue with you at all. All right. I'm going to keep going here. The South has never been fertile soil for religious liberalism. This is not to say that Southerners are guilty of the unforgivable sin of intolerance.

As Professor Eugene Genovese reminds us, a kind of tolerance is observed in both North and South, but it is a different kind in each place. In the North, where religion is more frequently considered a matter of mere individual preference and whim, The attitude is, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in ours. But in the South, where tolerance is not the same thing as indifference, people are more likely to say, you worship God in your way, and we'll worship him in His. Unitarianism, for example, utterly failed to take root in the South, and in 1860, only 20 of the country's 664 Universalist churches could be found below the Mason-Dixon line.

Resisting the spirit of the age, Southern Calvinists refused to adulterate the Christian faith with 18th century philosophies and refrained from turning Jesus Christ into a divine Barney the Dinosaur. Many Southern observers notice that the Northern society in which individual conscience and rationalist philosophies has replaced Scripture as the generally accepted authority lacked a certain stability that was, so conspicuous in the South. As Donald Davidson put it in the attack on Leviathan, quote, While the North has been changing its apparatus to civilization every 10 years or so, the South has stood its ground at a fairly safe distance and happily remained some 40 or 50 years behind the times. The South has never been able to understand how the North,

in its astonishing quest for perfection, can junk an entire system of ideas almost overnight and start on another one which is newer but no better than the first that is one of the principal differences out of many real differences between the sections and it's i mean how true is it it's you know my favorite thing about driving through a small town small southern town is pete but is uh you get out of the big cities and you drive through a small town in alabama and Mississippi, which I've done. And I'll be like, man, we got a, we got a lot of diversity here.

We got a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church, and a Methodist church. Hell, we even got a Catholic church. That is my favorite thing. And right there in the middle of town, you know, for those of you who know me, right, I care very deeply about town planning and the way we, the structural way, which we live our lives. Right in the middle of town, you will have a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church, and a Methodist church, and maybe a Catholic church on the outskirts. The Catholic Church is on the outskirts in our town.

Yeah, of course it is. But like, right, that's, that's diversity in the South is you got a Presbyterian church for the Scottish people, Methodist church for the Welsh people. Maybe an Anglican church, but that's diversity. We even have a Seventh-day Adventist church here. Oh, my heavens. Yeah, we are diverse. But they're all right on Main Street, ain't they? They are, all of them.

That's right. The Seventh-Day Adventist one is right downtown, right next to the flower shop. Yeah. All right, let me go. In his own assessment, Dabney was characteristically blunt. Quote, we might safely submit the comparative soundness of Southern society to this test, that it has never generated any of those loathsome isms, which northern soil breeds, as rankly as the slime of Egypt that spawns of frogs. While the North has her Mormons, her various sects of communists, her free lovers or spiritualists,

and a multitude of corrupt visionaries whose names and crimes are not even known among us, our soil has never proved congenial to the birth or introduction of a single one of those inventions. The South has indeed stood firmly over the years against a series of deplorable trends in politics and religion, but her adversary is tenacious. liberalism has no logical stopping point. No points of rest. Once one traditional belief is institutional, or institution, has been undermined? The liberal proceeds to his next conquest. The number of practices we are expected to tolerate, for example, seems to increase by the hour. The University of Massachusetts, apparently in all seriousness, has added pedophiles to its list of protected groups under its non-discrimination policy and that and that's now like yeah 30 years ago the

University of Massachusetts was full of crazy people and communists and well crazy out there wacko leftists and now you can't discriminate against you know LGBT LM and OP people yeah

a useful exercise that liberals always fail is you ask a conservative in what society would you be a liberal and they'll say I'd be a liberal in like czarist Russia in 1650 and you ask liberals like in what society would you be conservative and they never have an answer because they're always chasing perfection on earth which if you read your Bible is not possible.

The same is true in the political arena. The revolution that began in the 1860s has proceeded to this day with a cold and relentless logic. It was a vain hope that the left would be satisfied with undermining state and local authority. Now its target is national sovereignty. The old struggle between the local and particular on the one hand and the abstract and universal on the other is being carried out on this new level. Two years, years ago, while at Harvard, I attended an address by Jack Kemp, who could hardly contain his excitement as he described the ideal international order that he saw coming rapidly to fruition, what he called the world without borders. Kemp's world without borders is the logical

outcome of the process I have described in which the smaller associations which once claimed men's allegiances, having gradually and deliberately weakened. We have witnessed over the past decades, and especially since the end of the Cold War, the growth of transnational, globalist elites for whom patriotic sentiments and national sovereignty are so many obstacles to be overcome in the construction of a new world order. In the course of building a centralized national government, it suffices to weaken the competing authorities of families, churches, local governments, state governments, and so on. And if you are a libertarian, seeking to tear those down

you are on their side well what's the point of going to Paris and eating McDonald's yeah what's the point of visiting Florence or Rome or Berlin or

Madrid and and seeing strip balls right like I want to go to Alabama and I want my local barbecue pit to be operated

by either like the most Scott's Irish dude you've ever seen or like a guy who's so cold black that like like bends around him. I got both of those for you. Okay. I'll have to come hang out. Right?

Right. And I want that guy to be like like this is where we get the wood from and he can point to me to the tree stand that his family has been using for the last 150 years to get their oak to smoke the wood over, right? And while I'm eating his brisket,

I want him to trash North Carolina barbecue as like completely inferior, right? Mustard, why you talk about mustard in my shop? Don't you know that white sauce is the one true way to barbecue? Don't you understand? I want that because, and then I want to go to North Carolina, line and be like, have the guy go, Alabama white sauce. Get out of you, right?

Like, that's the point. Right? This, this, this idea that, that Jack Kemp had that, right, that everywhere could just have the same, you know, whoa, Burke, King, McDonald's, Wendy's, that's all the diversity we need. It's, it's both anti-human and disgusting. It's, it's stupid. and evil.

Yeah, and just to remind everybody, Jack Kemp was a Republican. So, yeah, there you are. Paul Ryan was his greatest disciple. All right. But for those who would construct the unitary global state, there remains a persistent problem of national allegiance and loyalty. A few of the methods of choice employed by those who would absorb the

United States into a global regime include a policy of open immigration, which balkanizes the populace and makes resistance to central states' designs less likely, the promotion of multiculturalism intended to make children ashamed of their country and its history, and trade agreements like NAFTA and GATT, which delegate legislative authority to unaccountable supernational bodies. Oh, and I'll just mention everything that we just mentioned there in those parentheses, a few of the methods of choice, the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine and those like libertarian kind of thing.

And Cato, the reason I bring up Cato is politicians listen to Cato. They actually use Cato. They use them because Cato is a – Cato is seen as a institute that wants – an institution that wants freedom. So if I say, oh, wow, look at this. It says open borders. It's from that Nostorastra, that fucking guy on Twitter. He just did this – he did this immigration, and it shows that immigrants were net positive, economically. none of this stuff

everything here they they employ pro nasda he wears a you know leather jacket dude

he's a rebel man I mean you know and you know and you know I know a lot of people who call themselves like conservative libertarians

would call themselves right libertarians, they would argue that open immigration is the right policy because if not, you're using the police and that just turns everything into a police state and you're, what do you like, you like the police? Are you a statist? Yeah. When the status is used on communist and trainees, yes.

Yeah, when you use a state on your enemy, it's actually a good thing. Oh, but at some point, if you grow the power of the state then when you lose power they can use that power yeah they're doing that right now so shut the fuck up that's what they're doing right now

okay why do I have to worry about the SPLC coming after me trying to destroy my life and docks me and find where I live and toss and incite communists to fire bomb my my house right oh

oh wait a second fucking morons yeah it's unbelievable and you know and I was there at one point I was a libertarian at one point but

just wake up wait I mean I'm fully I'm almost fully convinced that like 80% of the people who are still libertarians just do it because it's an identity they don't have an idea they're not a Christian they're not a husband they're not a father they need an identity and libertarian is their identity

and if they stop being libertarian they're kicked out of the group chat if they get out of the you know porkfest facebook group they'll have nothing yep Madeline Albright our new secretary of state made a quite revealing remark in a recent commencement address at Brandeis University Because our country was founded on individual liberty, she claimed, and not on loyalty to family or clan, Americans are particularly suited for real global citizenship. Without these competing loyalties, Americans can be disinterested advocates for the entire human race. Ticumolam, anybody?

Mm-hmm. This is a lady who claimed that killing 500,000 kids by starving them to death in Iraq. was worth it. It was worth it for her tribe. But when we want to talk about our tribe, well, that's not allowed. We can't even put a tribe together. If we put a tribe together,

if we put a tribe together, there's Rico laws. Yeah, I'm a Scots-Irish Redneck. I literally can't advocate for my tribe because the last time we tried it, they literally named you know like the kKK act after like wait this is just this is just cal you know this is just celtic self-expression what's your problem the kkk is just just us as a people advocating for our own interests

why do you object to that madeline albright right right so this is this is again right this is This is a Jewish woman... Mahalcost. Mahalcost. Yeah. This is a Jewish woman claiming, right, that she gets to speak

for the entire human race on behalf of Americans. Disgusting. There was a time, of course, when one was considered part of the lunatic fringe for suspecting that we were moving toward world government.

Today, our rulers are amazingly frank. Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, for example, example, recently remarked that the United States and Western Europe should enter into what he called an Articles of Confederation-type relationship. Strobe Talbot looks forward to the day when nationhood, as we know it, will no longer exist, when we will all look to a single global authority. And who do you suppose will be staffing that?

I can tell you who it will be, but you're going to call me anti-Semitic. Right. And right now, the EU and NATO, right, they're just Zog supremacy of Europe. Like Thomas says, you know, if you haven't been listening to the stuff that Thomas puts out and the stuff that Thomas and people together, you're missing out. They're basically like graduate level college courses, you know, on a podcast and I listen to all of them. But right, like until the nations of Europe can say, we no longer wish to be. be under the yoke of Zog. They're not free.

We, and that's the only issue. You know, the Danish government did a study asking how much immigrants, like, contributed to the economy and they found it was like to the negative in hundreds of billions of crooner. There's no point. No, I'm sorry. The government just say, like, okay, well, then these people want them to go home. I guarantee you, right, American troops would use violence against the Danish government

if the Danes sent all the Turks home. There is no point in multiplying examples. Let it suffice to say that recent trends towards global centralization provide ample reason for concern. Equally certain is that the global status do not particularly like places like the American South, and they detest all that she stands for. Like all centralizers, they prefer a subject population of atomized individuals with no particular attachments. People, in other words, who are content to eat Big Macs, vote in sham elections, and watch Seinfeld. This really is dated.

It would be naive to suppose, well, that's the only thing that really dates this is the Seinfeld reference. It would be naive to suppose that the South is not also cursed with this kind of apathy. But the growth of the Southern League and the continuing popularity of Southern partisan reminds us that many Southerners are prepared to defend their civilization. and a people that still possesses even a spark of resistance, a sense of history and tradition, and attachments of the locality, and a strong Christian faith, is a potential threat to the left's new order.

Can I tell you about something that changed my life? Good. It was 1994, 1995 or something. It was in a small local bookstore. in the Pacific Northwest and I came across I was already

politically conservative it's in high school it's kind of a nerd so I spent only you know I'd work summers and basically all my money went to books and I came across

a copy of Southern Partisan magazine and and I think the cover was, are you tired of the government, we need to roll back in the 60s, not just the 1960s, but the 1860s. I remember looking at the cover going, huh? What?

Because, of course, I had the standard American education. But Tom's completely correct here, right? That this is what has happened to us as a society is we can't even begin to discuss things in terms that were normal in 1840 and all time periods prior to that. One thing that's striking once you learn a little bit more is you realize that the man from,

say 8th century France and the man from 16th century New England or no 17th century New England could basically talk to each other

could converse they were agrarian they were Christian they understood the world in the same basic terms and those same basic terms extended from the fall of Rome all the way up until

the middle 19th century and until that point there was a decisive break and we this liberalism that Tom Woods is talking about kind of took over and so the vocabulary

doesn't really match right but it is precisely that questioning of what why can't I read the same books as my ancestors and come and understand them in the terms that they understood themselves that has caused the problem the why are they so afraid of me reading a book from 1550 or from 1,050

and understanding Thomas Aquinas as he so understood himself why are they upset with me thinking the same way that someone in Alabama in 1850 understood himself. What's the problem with that? Those are my ancestors. Why shouldn't I understand what my great, great, great grandfather thought of as himself? When he put it on his diary, you know, what's wrong with that? Why do they hate it? And then that's a very, very revealing question.

I think we know the answer, but, yeah. Indeed, Southerners have had too many strange philosophies shoved down their throats already to go quietly in the face of this one. As former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan explained, speaking not of Southerners in particular, but of his supporters in general, we love the old republic, and when we hear phrases like New World, order. We release the safety caches on our revolvers. Make no mistake. The persecutors of the South hate her today for the same reasons they hated her in 1860. An 1868 article in the Pro-South Periodical, the land we love summed them up quite well. Quote, her conservatism, her love of the Constitution, her attachment of the old usages of society, her devotion to principles, her faith and

Bible truth. All these involved her in a long and bloody war with the radicalism which seeks to overthrow all that is venerable, respectable, and of good repute. So the war between the states, far from a conflict over mere material interests, was for the South a struggle against an aesthetic individualism and an unrelenting rationalism in politics and religion in favor of a Christian understanding of authority, social order, and theology, self. The intelligent left knows this, and even the incurably stupid like Carol Mosley Braun must at least sense it.

For all their ignorant blather about slavery and civil rights, what truly enrages most liberals about the Confederate battle flag is its message of defiance. They see it in the remnants of the traditional society determined to resist cultural and political homogenization. and refusing to be steamrolled by the forces of progress. I've been a northerner for my entire 24 years, but when we reflect on what was really at stake in the late unpleasantness, we can join with Alexander Stevens in observing that

the cause of the South is the cause of us all. Amen, amen. I've been privileged. by my work in Zidarsphere to do a couple things and one of those things that I've been able to do is to become correspondence with Dr. Michael Hill, who's been the chief of the league of the south

for the entirety of his existence coming up on 30 years now and I guess Tom wrote this back but the thing that needs to be understood is that the people who who are against us

aren't against us because they have a minor disagreement or they have this slightly different interpretation of things they're blowing up this minor disagreement to a major fight they are

atheist individualistics race hustlers communists Zionist Jews who seek to destroy not only you personally because you're listening to this program and merely listening to this program

is enough reason for them to want to see you destroy but they seek to destroy it because they hate good things and God bless Tom Woods for having the courage and foresight to see all this stuff 30 years ago 25 years ago when he wrote this

and God bless Michael Hill for continuing to bear the charge of a freedom in defense south but that that same civil war that was brought to people in places like Chickamauga and Gettysburg and

Manassas and countless other places all across the south, that's brought to your doorstep right now by the same people and the same ideas. And they want you just as dead as the boys in gray who fell at all those different places. For the same reasons, they hate you. They hate you for going to church. They hate you for being married.

They hate you for being straight. They hate you for being white. They hate you for actually believing the Bible. They hate you for any number of reasons And there's no getting along with them There's no coming to some sort of reasonable motives of Vendi There's no saying this is the Methodist side of the street And that's the Presbyterian side of the street

Like you see in small southern towns These people Want to destroy everything that is good, true, and beautiful. And that's why I do what I do. That's why I take the risk that I take. And anybody that wants to pretend that we can come kind of, you know, live with these people,

I invite you to read this essay in its entirety and tell me where Tom was wrong. Because you can't. You know, I have this thing, everyone, and while you get on social media where if you're talking about Ilducci or even about Adolf, you know, people will be like, they'll post a picture of Mussolini hanging upside down, or, you know, they'll tell you to follow your leader and blow your brains out like Adolf. Just understand the people who defeated them,

they're forebearers of the people who are in charge right now. The people who hung Mussolini upside down and killed them, those are the same, they're the same group of people, not literally because those people are dead, but they are the forebearers of the people who want to trans your kids, want to teach your kids about gay anal sex when they're in kindergarten. The same ones who basically started a war, basically got the world to fight against one country in the middle of Europe, they're the ones in charge right now. They are their ideological ancestors. And they view you, if you just want to be a dude who goes to church on Sundays, and lightly banses your Baptist friends about infant baptism

while you go to your Presbyterian church or your Anglican church in a small southern town. They view you as the same as the Nazis as confederates. They see you in a gray uniform. It doesn't matter which side you're fighting for, right? I said many times that all my heroes wore gray. They don't see a distinction between you and the Nazis, or the Confederates, or George Washington, or El Cid, or Charles Martel, or Julius Caesar. They see you all as bad.

And I hate you, and they want you to die. And I want your children to be destroyed. and want your church to be destroyed and they want the beautiful buildings that your ancestors built or you maintain to be torn down and they hate all good things and they're proud of it

and they it's a crusade they're on a crusade it's a crusade for evil. And I would strongly hear people to listen to Pete's readings of the last crusade by Charles Carroll, because it lays it out

pretty starkly as well. For many, many years, Charles Spadio and I have bands back and forth that we're at the moment now where we're basically spring 1936 in Spain. Everybody knows that something's coming. You just got to

pick a side. So are you on the side of order liberty let me quote here you know are you in the side of um red republicans

atheists communes are in the side of order to liberty regulated freedom which which side are you want I'm on my side, bro. I'm just on my side. I'm an individual.

I'll just fight this out. I'll just fight this out for my homestead. Good luck. Yeah. And those are the kind of people, the kind of people who say that. I mean, I don't want to wish bad upon anyone. But you're used to.

useless. You're less than useless because you know, you know, and you're just choosing to do everything you can to promote an ideology that this regime has been promoting since 1860. It's just pathetic. Take it from somebody who used to do that. Take it from someone who used to do that. take it from someone who used to promote it. It's pathetic. And I repents of it every day. I'm embarrassed that ever promoted that.

One of the reasons we're friends, Pete, and I don't mind, if you don't mind, like, the amount of money you've given up by not promoting this stuff is ridiculous. And I'm going to talk about my friend Pete here for just a second. Understand, dear listener, that I am the most toxic thought criminal out there aside from a few buddies who co-host a podcast for me. I'm openly racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic. You name the bad thing that I'm it. And because Pete saw that I was right about this, that, the other thing, when I reached out to him, he could have said, Ew, don't touch me.

You're gross. Oh, God. You're going to cost me a ton of money. No, he reached out his hand in friendship and said, oh, that's interesting. You know, what have you got to say? And then I told him a couple things I had to say. He said, that sounds right to me.

And, you know, I don't mind saying. I think that Pete and I are good friends now. It's been a couple of years. But rather than protect his own income, or his own prestige, or his own, you know, standing within the community. Pete went after the truth at the cost of everything else. And that matters above all things. Go to the place, you know, free man be on the wall slash donate, I think.

Support slash support. Okay. I'm sorry. Great. That's all right. I just said you it would be a cash app privately so I don't know right

but okay with all these forces of all these evil people who want to use the centralized safety to destroy everything and you've just heard us talk about

again someone I admire very very much Tom Woods who has been a hero of mine for 20 years draw the best battle lines when Pete could have pretended to be neutral

as so many people do and ranked in not tens of thousands of dollars but hundreds of thousands of dollars maybe even millions of dollars he said nope I'm going to choose the right side

and that cost him a lot of money and a lot of friends and a lot of other things and he stood for you between your children and the people who want to turn them into homosexual trannies in wheelchairs

who want them to be atheist, communist, red Republicans, jacobins. And I think that you should do as I've done and support Pete for that. And support the people

that don't hate your children. Support the people that don't hate the possibility of you having children. I appreciate that. I mean, I appreciate that. It's just, you know, I'm not one of those people who can lie. I can't live a lie. I've never been able to live a lie.

So, you know, once I learn something and once I'm presented with more information, I change my mind, you know, I have to change my mind and I have to talk about it. I have a platform. I have, for better or worse, I have a platform that people listen to. And, you know, when I saw that it's nice to have hobbies, you know, one of my hobbies is become pipes at the OGC conference. Someone has become a good friend now. Give me like 15 pipes. He's like, here I used to work at a pipe shop. He's like, and now I'm like just in heaven trying all these different. pipes and everything like that oh yeah it's awesome it's it's a great hobby um i love to smoke pipes um but it's a hobby and it's not going to change the world it's relaxing is that nicotine is proof that god loves this and wants us to be happy absolutely um but libertarianism is a hobby that's all it is it's not going to manifest itself it's no different than

and being really into R.C. cars or a way you be for, you know, putting the chips in bottles. It's a harm. Yeah, well, it's not harm. It's, it could be harmful, but the, it's just, it's, it's, it's just. it's a way to hang out with people. It's like Comic-Con. If you're, like, really into comic books or you,

I mean, I know Comic-Con has expanded movies, TV shows, everything like that. You know, if you're into that kind of stuff, and you go there and be around like-minded people, but stop pretending you're going to change the world. Stop pretending you're, I mean, stop pretending you're going to change the world and go change your own life first.

one of the reasons I stopped being libertarian is I saw that it was 2007-2008 I can't remember when I stepped on Moldbug but it was around that time and I had read this Tom article is that I saw that

there was no way for me to mandate everyone understand liberty the same way I did without using force and so libertarianism was pointless and without the ideas that are shown in this article and I strongly strongly urge everyone to

just read it without our commentary and see how pressing it was. Tom Woods is a genius, and I don't, you know, that term is overused in our time. But I legitimately believe Tom Woods is a genius. He sees things that others do not see, and he shows people things that they otherwise would not have seen.

But this article, my eyes to the fact that it's those intermediate institutions that are the most important things in our lives. It's our circles of friends. It's our churches. It's our neighborhoods. It's our civic associations. It's our small governments.

Like if you want the government to be small, you know, your city council seat costs $10,000. Ten guys can come up with $10,000. You just go without lot of age for a couple years and you came up with $1,000. to make sure that your city council seat isn't run by a communist. It was just a house race, a house primary race, like Jamal Bowman and a Latimer, I think in New York City,

where APEC put his thumb on the scale pretty hard. It costs tens of millions of dollars. Nothing you can do is going to change that as a normal human being. but you can act in that local sphere. You can support the church and the Rotary Club and the bowling league and all these intermediate institutions that stand between you

and the ever hungry maw of the commonest Leviathan. And if you don't understand that it's more important that your local municipality be able to pass a law that says no pornographic billboards than it is for the individual right of some weirdo

to own strip clubs to be able to want to promote his billboards then I'm sorry you just lost the plot you're not capable of being free Simple us. Simple as that. All right. Let's get out of here. It's getting a little late for me. I know it's still a little bit early for you. Just a couple things real quick. Sure.

Thank you so much for entertaining this particular whim of mine. Pete. I appreciate it very much. and that's a great article i want to say a great article and knowing tom you know knowing tom and reading this it's like i mean i as soon as i read it i'm like yeah that's tom yeah it's great um but again i want to reiterate like tom woods is a hero of both personally for me and just generally read this without our commentary i'm sure that There'll be a link in the description. Read it twice. And find me one thing Tom got wrong.

And understand that our enemies, Madeline Albright's, the Bill Clintons, the George Bushes, the Karl Rove's, whoever you want to name. They aren't just minorly. disagreeing with you. This isn't a dispute about a 17% tax rate versus 27% tax rate. These people want you to die. They want to tear down your churches. They want your children to be killed in a useless war, and the children survive at

useless war. They want to turn trans. And they want to import. Tens of millions of foreigners to destroy your pet your money. They want to tear down every statute that's ever been erected. They want to rename every street or every park. And they don't do it because, oh, they have a disagreement. They do it because they're evil.

They're positively on team Satan. and every time you go to battle with these folks keep that in the back of your mind like these folks aren't just Roberta Kaplan just isn't somebody that well I might have minor disagreement no she's on team Satan she hates everything good no

and then go to proceed accordingly you know, with that knowledge. Cato with David Boas, right? Why are all these handsome, slim young men with clean-shaven faces working at Cato? Well, yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, it's individual liberty.

freedom and, you know, the freedom to escape responsibility and, you know, make the world the worst place for everyone else. But as long as you're doing okay, as long as you're having your fun, then, you know, what I do shouldn't affect you. Well, it does. It does. And it has to stop. And it's going to stop one way or another. That's why I don't think people understand it. it's going to stop. The only question is, is, are you going to like the way it stops? Because when things, historically, when things like, when things get like this, the way they're stopped, well, your precious individual liberties are going to mean shit when that happens.

and no one's going to care. No one's going to care. I'm going to die a moderate. Yeah. All right. As always, I will link to your telegram chat and everything. And, yeah, until I guess we'll talk on the next thought, I'm thinking of it.

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you very much. And, you know, if you're listening, don't skip anything Pete's producing because it's all gold. Whether there's the readings or the individual shows or specials or whatever Pete's doing, please both support me materially, but also just listen because you've been lied to by almost everyone for your entire life. and Pete Cunonez is that rarest of things. You know, Diogenes put it this way, you know, over 2,000 years ago.

He was trying to find an honest man. And I'm very proud that Pete's my friend because Pete is that honest man. So listen to everything he says, not because he's a genius or because he's the, you know, the perfect paragon of virtue or anything of that. but because Pete is an honest man and he will bring you people that tell you the truth as best they know how whether that's me or Thomas 777

or Charles Padil or Jose Nino or whoever else Tom has on a guest or Pete has on as a guest I guarantee you Pete has never had on a guest that will lie to you and if I thought I'm lying I would I would call them out and that's the most precious thing you can have

so please you know support Pete but also listen to what he has to say because he's doing his best to tell you the truth and there are very very very few people in the world today who are trying to do that you know I give Pete money not because he's my friend but because he's honest man And this matters to me very, very much. I risked everything to do what I do.

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Thank you, man. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. Dark Enlightenment returns. Seems like I talked to you a couple weeks ago, and I don't know if something happened. What's going on, man? Yeah, the optics fairies got to it. Well, for good reason. Yeah, that's...

for a reason that we can excuse. Yeah, well, no, that's okay. I mean, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't congenital of keeping my mouth shut. So I suppose that's good for you folks that are out there that are entertained, but sometimes it's not a prudent thing. But I'm doing all right. And the intervening time has given me some time to reflect. It's not quite in the news so much right now,

but I know that there are a lot of pro-lifers out there who are, you know, sour on Trump. And where I live, it doesn't matter. You know, he's going to win by 60, 70% no matter what. So I am free to vote third party and I'll find, you know, if the Constitution Party or American Freedom Party are on the ballot, I'll vote for them. And the thing that people need to understand is this is this is. is all about power, and you can't build a pro-life culture where abortion isn't a thing

until you're willing to use power to make it happen. And that was, you know, if you want me to dial down, you know, our previous discussion, pro-lifers, I love you. I'm one of you. I've done the whole stand in front of the abortion clinic with the rosary for, you know, hours on end in the snow and in springtime and I participated in 40 days for life in multiple states that was from the pro-life club in college. You know, I've done the bit. I know people that, you know,

were part of Operation Rescue. I wasn't quite old enough myself, but I know people that were, you know, veterans of it, I had people that lost everything. And until you're willing to use power to make it happen so that pro-life becomes policy, you're going to lose. This is not Operation Rescue's great error

was in thinking that this was a civil rights movement. You can link arms and stand in front of the abortion clinics and seeing we shall overcome and justice will fall like rain and all the babies will be saved. And that's just not the truth. The truth is, the Jews wanted a civil rights movement,

so they got it. and the Jews want abortion, so they got it. You know, I have my differences with the Michael Jones, but when he says that, you know, this is all about, you know, a fundamental Jewish value of abortion, he's right. The people that brought us abortion,

people that brought us contraception, the people that brought us pornography are all Jewish. So when you say, it's not a part of our Judeo-Christian values to have abortion in this country. It's like, hold on. these are these are acronyms they cannot be the same thing Judeo-Christian is a fake made-up term that doesn't really mean anything

it's a post-war consensus term you're not going to find that yeah like the second world war yeah what it is is a Nuremberg regime approved term to denote that your Christianity is so toothless that you'll accept the constraints put on you by the Nuremberg regime

that's what it means yeah i was having a conversations with a conversation with my wife and a friend today and i basically uh i've gotten so frustrated with christianity in general i i've like you know you're you're driving me away from this and there's a reason why i there have been long stretches in my life that i've stopped going to church because I can't I can't stand to be around I because we're supposed to come together as the body of Christ and I don't want to be with these people these people want to be martyrs and they want to die and they want their kids to die they want their kids to be raped they want their kids to be um you know destroyed and cut up in the streets and they somehow think that that's something good you know you look at the way Christians are reacting to like Springfield uh, Springfield, Ohio, or Albertville, Alabama, and, you know, you would think that, yeah, I mean, you know, what I, what I think when I see that is, I think of a book that I read on my show earlier this year called Camp of the Saints. Mm-hmm. And these are not, these are people who are not compatible.

You know, I've said this before. As much as we, you know, as much as we say, you know, Mexicans have to go back, you can talk to a Mexican. you can you can tell a Mexican turn the music down and they'll listen to you because there there's something somewhat of the same somewhat of a clover of a cultural um yeah there's 60% spaniards so there's enough there that you can be like hey but you don't know unless you've lived around Haitians you don't know what the hell's going on here and i lived in south Florida for 19 fucking years and they're everywhere.

And you don't go near these people. Right. Well, and what do the Dominicans think? Oh, they shoot on site. Right. The only reason there's the only reason there's anyone on Haiti left at all is the Dominicans know

that if they just went full of ham and retook their entire island and drove the Haitians into the sea, that the U.S. Marines would show up and kill them. And the Dominican Republic's, like, Chief Act support is baseball players. This is not, you know, I mean, right? This is not a, you know, particularly, they're, what did I, what did I call them on thoughtgramsson? A lot of white supremacists, that these are not people that, that are, you know, white.

but there are dead chickens that have been sacrificed to Satan all around highly of Florida don't go to well that that's even another group that's the Cubans that are into censoria right too so I mean South Florida really is a cursed place

I was in South Florida last not this past week but the previous week it's cursed you get in there and you and you want to get out as soon as possible Well, because they've got demons everywhere. And this is the error that pro-lifers make. I suppose we should rather than, you know, we're 20 minutes into the call here,

but we're specifically trying to talk about the abortion pro-life, anti-abortion pro-life movement in the context of the current political thing. And they're just wrong about everything. if their idea of every human being is equal and that everyone is you know, if they just get baptized they'll all be upper middle class white Christians is not true.

There are such things as generational spirits and that there is such a thing as being too dumb to grasp the creed and Haitians will tell you they're Catholic on Sunday morning and go to Mass and then they'll go home and sacrifice the chicken or your cat

to a demon and so the people that want to pretend oh these people are Catholics, they're revitalizing our churches but they're not they're there to grift off you they're there to steal there's no way

the pro-life moment can get anywhere when you're more concerned with building a society where every baby is valued and that means that you work really

really, really hard to help people, to help your enemies. And you don't do anything for your friends, which is what the pro-life movement has done for the last 30 years. Oh, we got to help all these single moms. Why? Are they the sort of people that go to church and are conservative? Or are they going to be, you know,

on the public fisc their entire lives. Are they going to be public charges their entire lives? Are they going to stop behaving in such way as to be a drain on the public fisc and lower the tone of society? No. Well, the abortion movement is racist. Mara Ria saying it was a racist. Well, yeah, she was. Was she wrong?

That's the question you have to ask yourself. Pro-life movement. Donald Trump is a very flawed man. There's a lot about him I don't like, and I probably won't vote for. But if you think that Kamala Harris, who's probably had multiple abortions, let's be honest, isn't going to throw all of you in jail. David Deliatton, the guy who proved that they're selling baby parts in California, Kamala Harris was AG when he was hemmed up.

She tried to throw him in jail. You think that, you know, her, the people who are saying, Kamala is a brat. Who do you think that's aimed at? Childless millennials, women, of which there's an extremely large contingent who are fanatics. demonically fanatical pro-abortion people. You think empowering them is going to be good?

You know, the Biden regime went to pro-lifers' houses with guns and woke people up at, you know, four in the morning, raiding their house. Do you not remember that? Am I the only one that remembers that?

you know the safe access to clinics acts or whatever it was where uh one gentleman the pro-life activist of you know eight kids or whatever some dude who you know assaulted his son so he pushed him out of the way and all of a sudden he's he's violating the safe act so we got to show up at his house and the wee morning hours with you know eight FBI agents with guns scare his kids half the death drag him off to jail

put him through a trial. I think he got acquitted, thank God. But, you know. And when you win, you know, Donald Trump gave us the one thing that we needed. That is, the federal Leviathan is no longer involved in abortion. Thank God. So now there's 50 different states that can all have their own policies. and the amount of pressure you would need to fix things in California or Illinois or whatever is so immense that it's never going to happen.

But you can make Mississippi and Alabama and Idaho pro-life. So do that. And the fact that the pro-life movement didn't have 50 state operations ready to go with funding and people is an indictment of the pro-life movement. you got what you wanted for 50 years you've been saying Roevy Wade has to go well it went

it was a bad law it was stupid it was poorly written it was engendered all kinds of ridiculousness from the federal bench I mean any of you actually

read Planned Parenthood be Casey it's all you know emanations and put numbers it's woo talk fit for like a horoscope reading that was issued from the federal bench so we got what we wanted and then you proceeded to rack up L after L after L because you refuse to deal with the reality of Americans aren't very philosophically inclined and most people don't think very hard.

So they're kind of icked out by like the idea of a six-month pregnant woman getting an abortion. But a three-month woman getting three-month woman getting an abortion is like, well, you know, how can you tell? And instead of saying, okay, well, we'll get a, you know, 12-week ban. in place, across every state, and then work on everything else. We'll work on changing the culture so that people can get married and have kids and have jobs. I can tell you where people aren't going to have kids, where people are going to have more abortions. Silicon, Alabama, and Springfield, Ohio because they're going to look at their car insurance bill

that went up like 300%, and they're going to go, I can't afford anything. Most people aren't ideologically Christian. They don't show up to church every Sunday, no matter what. They're kind of culturally Christian and a little bit indifferent. And if you want them to live in such a ways so that they don't do things like murder babies, you're going to have to provide them with some incentives

to actually get themselves back to church and not destroy their society. You have to get some clerics out there that say, you know what, this is a white country, and white people deserve to have a country of their own. And having a constant stream of racial strangers and foreigners who aren't assimilated to our Republican way of life, small our Republican way of life,

is a net drain on us, and we shouldn't have to pay for it. But no. You know, my ancestors have been here 300 years, and I'm supposed to just be like, oh, okay. someone who just got off the boat from Africa's just as much as American as me. Nonsense. The one thing that I did, I did find out today is that, yeah, you know who, you know who is having a baby boom? every Haitian woman in Springfield, Ohio.

Yep. Yeah. So 20,000 becomes, you know, 30,000 and 40,000 really quick. And yeah, what do you do? What, what do you do? You love your, you love your neighbor. You forgive your enemies. yeah there is such a thing you know augustin wrote about just war theory

and augustin believed that the reason to go to war was to win peace i mean is springfield ohio and peace at peace right now no no and uh you know god forgive me for this but but the guy who you know whose son guide who i wish my son had been killed by a six year old white man well wearing a sports cap of you know of a team he and his wife he and his wife are teachers at the local school

yep yeah okay well yeah he might he might want that um but uh in my opinion he's too fat and uh any man that would wear a baseball cap inside of a team of

a basketball American ball you know after your son have been killed by one, like you're not saligible. You don't get to, you might not care about your kid dying. I care about my kids dying and I care about the kids of people I care about dying. So you don't get to make that assessment for me. I care about little old ladies.

And in fact, I'm going to state here that I care more about the kids in the community than you do. Not often I can say that, but I for 100% care more about the kids. Springfield, Ohio, that went to his son's elementary school, then he does. Because he doesn't want them to be safe, and I do. The, when you think about the abortion thing, it's the whole abortion history in this country. especially since Roe, you're not taking into account the fact that, well, it took the courts to overturn it, what, 50 years later, when if every Christian in this country would have said no? I mean, I'm an elitist, I'm an elite theorist, but I understand what happens when an overreuth.

when an overwhelming majority of the population says no and says no continuously. I mean, I know for a fact I've seen in my life church-going people who go every Sunday as soon as their daughter got knocked up, taking them to the abortion clinic. Of course. I've seen, yeah, this is not me making this up. I can give you the names, but I'm not going to, because, you know, why would I do that? And plus, I don't want to get sued just for, because everything is still litigious. The problem is you have to deal with reality as it is, right?

To me, the only reason I'm still a Christian is, I believe that Jesus is the God of the copybook things as well as, you know, everything else that he is. and when he said, I'm the way, the truth in life, he meant everything that's true is somehow contained in him. Because if we can't be honest about the fact that, I don't know, 50% approximately, what is it, 46% of black women have herpes simplex say, or whatever the sexually transmitted one is. Yeah, it's, it's right at 50%.

I mean, it's insane. Right. So you can't make that population, like, sexually continent enough to not need abortion or starving to death. Like, even, you know, in Europe, in, at the height of Christendom, women left their babies exposed because they were starving. That's, that's one of the things that monasteries did is, you know, take in foundlings and they'd adopt. them and they'd become brother so-and-so who didn't have, who never got married and never had kids, but was none of the less allowed to live. You know, single mothers in Christendom would give the baby up, the baby to be born, you know, weaned, live in a monastery, become a, you know, brother so-and-so, and the mother would take vows and become a nun, right?

and so people those people wouldn't be and a lot of the time you know babies starve to death and this is something that's awful and I don't like it but that's nevertheless what happened and people would have kids and those kids would die but

the church is teaching on abortion doesn't, like, all of a sudden make people, you know, snap, oh, we teach this. And all of a sudden, people, you know, like 15-year-old kids aren't going to get horny. Because the church says, no, that's not what, that's not what, you have to deal with the reality. Right? You know, with AI, a thing, is there going to be a single job available for anyone with an IQ below, I don't know, 120? 110? Where is the cutoff?

Well, yeah, I mean, even the higher IQ Lib Tards, what are they going to do? What percentage of the New York Times is already written by Chapuch, TPT? Half, a third? I mean... you know, why would they, why would they even pay somebody to do slop like that, put in a couple of key words, the people who programmed it are already shitlib, so, you know, it's just going to spit out shit livery. Yeah. So, if the pro-life movement is going to get serious, and this is advice from two guys, you're pretty sympathetic to the pro-life movement.

It's one of the three things we've won on in my lifetime, the other two being homeschooling and concealed carry rights. Those are the things that we acted like leftists on. Pete recently reissued both, like, the complete series of our talk at Race War and High School of the book. And I keep talking about this book, because this book blew my mind and it's changed my life in the two years since, you know, since I came on to talk about this. But the leftists always, always, always got something that we wanted and then came back for another bite at the apple. over and over and over again until they got what they want. So the pro-life movement,

rather than saying, all right, we're going to get a 12-week ban in every state, you know, a state-by-state basis. We're going to work really hard for that. And then we're going to work on,

you know, maybe enforcing a, all doctors have to have admittance privileges at a local hospital. You know, so to make sure that the doctors, you know, employed by Pint, employed by Planned Parenthood are actually doctors. So, you know, there's things you could do to move the ball forward. Football season started, so I can't help but using the metaphors, right?

but no like unless we can get a touchdown immediately we don't want to play well while you're sitting there and talking arguing about what's the best play you don't get to trick play to get and then we'll fool everybody or then we'll go to no

your opponents work for Satan and they're okay they're perfectly okay with three yards in a cloud of dust every day every play they'll import tens of millions of welfare-dependent people who might be against abortion for cultural reasons. But they don't care about, they don't actually care enough to, you know, vote for somebody else on religious grounds because they get free stuff.

And to them, the free stuff is more important than abortion. So basically, every non-white population in America thinks their first. free stuff is more important than dead babies. Period. Sometimes it's 70% of them think that. Sometimes it's 90% think that. Sometimes it's 60%. But the vast majority of non-white people think their free shit is more important than

dead babies. So unless you're against immigration, period, full stop. And four massive, massive, repatriation, you're never getting rid of abortion. You have a highly dependent population that is sexually incontinent and can't make a living in America on their own because they lack the requisite IQ and the ability to plan for the future. You might think I'm a racist for saying that, but those are just the facts.

so if you want to build a pro-life America you're going to have to make America white again you're going to have to make America fiscally conservative again you're going to have to do things and use power to actually reward your friends and punish your enemies

when 17-year-old girls and 17-year-old boys do what 17-year-old children do. In 1957, there were jobs for that. You could be like, well, son, looks like you're getting married and getting a job. And he got married and he got a job.

And it might have gotten divorced a few years later or whatever. But a lot of those folks actually just stayed married. But there's nothing to do for that 17-year-old kid to do right now. Now, can you name a place where a 17-year-old kid get a job? I mean, you'd think maybe in the metal industry, but, you know, that kid just got replaced by a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, you're not going to get a, not a 17-year-old white kid. I mean, that was, and this has been going on for a while because boomers won't retire.

They, you know, and I'm really trying hard not to shit on boomers much anymore, but, you know, when you go and take jobs, because it's like, oh, I need to keep working and you take the jobs that a 17-year-old would normally take, and you're five times larger than any generation that's ever lived, well, teenagers aren't even going to be able to get jobs anymore because you're taking them all. Well, housing costs too much when I need a job. Why does housing cost too much? You only had two kids. Oh, right. The endless wave upon wave, upon wave, upon wave of immigration that have force people further and further and further out

and housing prices up and up and up and up. You know, the number one thing that keeps young people from having kids today is Eusuria's student loan debt and housing prices. You want to be really pro-life? Take Harvard's endowment. Pay off white kids' student loans with it.

And if they have a kid, give them 20, you know, Give them $25,000. And you watch those, you know, Zumer gals just have eight kids apiece. It's not complicated. We've set up all the incentives to be wrong. And the pro-life movement believes in the Nuremberg regime.

And the Nuremberg regime exists to take people who are part of the pro-life movement and politically disenfranchise them till they're dead. That's what the point of the neuroprone regime is. Until you understand that and accept that and deal with that, you're going to lose every single time. You can't make New York pro-life. You can't make California pro-life.

Pretty soon you won't even be able to prove you pro-life in Texas. right because of the invasion what are you concrete going to do if you really believe that it's a sacrifice to Moloch and it's the most evil thing that anyone's ever done I can make a pretty good case for that what are you going to do in concrete steps that actually helps that stop and I'm 100% lifest. I'm an abolitionist. I'm one of those guys, right? I've done my time in front of the clinic.

Holden signs, protesting and saying the rosary. But I recognize that in order to stop this, I have to have power to do it. People who agree with me

and my friends need to be in a position where they can actually make a difference. You know, Lila Rose pays herself a very generous salary off of, you know, live action. Look at their tax forms, right? The point $2 million in all about $150,000 goes towards salaries. So a lot of these pro-life national organizations raise money to raise money to raise money to raise money. They don't really do anything. They're pretty nice grifts as you get it.

But Lila Rose. It's like politics. It's just another jobs program. Yeah, it is. You know, it's a job program for people. Yeah. Showbiz for ugly people, as people say. But you can't have a bunch of women who are against guns and care really badly by poor George Floyd in charge of a poor life movement.

I'm sorry, the world is a better place without George Floyd in it. That doesn't make me happy to say. Doesn't I'm not like dancing on his great. or anything like that. But if you don't think that the world is objectively a better place without George Floyd or Michael Brown or Tamir Rice

or what's your name from Kentucky, you know, then you're just wrong. I can't even remember. I mean, there's so many, right? If you can't accept that these people's interests are 100% against yours.

And, you know, you and I, bandied back and forth in private chats, right? That one graph by alternative hypothesis, right? The lifetime negative impact of black people is like negative $850,000 per, like, that's how much they take out of the system. and Hispanics is like $650 or whatever and white people is like positive $150,000. I can't remember over the light type. You can't build a pro-life society

that has spare resources to take care of people and offer, you know, poor single moms who are 16 or 14 a chance to have their baby and get on with their life in a society that's overrun with people who aren't productive and vote for communism. What are you going to do? I'm really mad at Donald Trump because he's not as pro-life as I want him to be.

He got you the one thing that actually gives you a W in the last 50 years. I mean, were you... I've been to the march for life. Washington, D.C. is not like a, you know, cold northern city, but we could get pretty miserable in January. Were you just happier, like, going and freezing in the rain and slushy snow of Washington, D.C. every January 20th? Happy to be a beautiful loser. Because then you were doing something. You were going to the march for life.

Okay, well, now that you've got it, what are you going to do? Well, we wanted to go to the March for Life. It's not a party. It's a political movement. You're trying to get something out of it. What are you going to do? You know, as a Catholic, it deserves me. But white evangelicals are the only reason we aren't living in a communist dystopia right now.

So how about we live, build a society where white evangelicals hold political power? And everyone else gets to live in a decent place. Well, I mean, I know white evangelicals that talk about that. And as soon as they talk about it, other white evangelicals come after them. and, you know, accuse them of, well, basically just regurgitate every Nuremberg regime talking point to them and, you know, every pejorative that has been advanced in the last 80 years. Yeah, of course.

And that's because these people, they're regime evangelicals as our friends at the Contramundum talk about. David French basically apostatized. because he adopted a black girl and he got roasted on Twitter for it of like, bro, what are you doing? This is a status symbol for you. You thought you'd be president

because you went to Iraq as a lawyer and awarded yourself a bronze star and you thought you were going to get to be senator or something and it didn't work out for you and you got made fun of viciously on Twitter rightfully so and so now he's like

writing from your time and how everyone that he used to be is like a horrible person. It's like well maybe so David but maybe they just understand the way the world actually works better than you do

it's ridiculous to think that a population that is already addicted to drugs and pornography and isn't productive is just going to turn around and see the light on the evils of abortion on their own. Like, oh, you know, I was totally, you know, smoking a J on my way to my, you know, wage, low-wage job. But then I saw a sign that said abortion equals murder and I totally changed my mind. It doesn't work like that. I mean, it is. But what are you going to do with that person to make them see the light?

You can remove them from power. You could say, oh, yeah, this whole democracy thing, not really working. You can't talk now. Or are you going to just continue to let that person live their life and when they screw up, you know, like, and then they have their baby and they do a bad job as a parent, you're going to go to the rescue center and give them all kinds of stuff

and help them and then they're going to do it again and again and again and again. I'm not against you know pregnancy resource centers

or anything like that. I've given time and money to both those sorts of organizations. But you have to deal with the real world. You have to be honest about what's actually happening. And if you're not capable of doing that, then politics isn't your game.

I'm sorry. Everyone just acts like they're completely defeated, like that there's nothing that there's nothing that they can do. And then they're like, you know, they're, they're always looking to somebody else. It's like you say, well, you know, you really have to, you really have to, you know, get together with people, you know, people of like mind and, you know, oh, well, what are you doing? Well, about fuck you. That's what I'm doing. That's my kite.

Like, maybe, maybe I don't talk about that publicly. Yeah. You know, you want to, you want to find out. You want to talk? Let's get face-to-face, leave our phones, you know, leave our phones somewhere and go for a walk. Yeah. But until then, fuck you. Right.

You know, it's like, I mean, and we're not talking about, like, violence, like, raising up, you know, raising up militias or anything like that. We're just talking about strategy. Why would you be, why would you be talking out loud about your strategy? The only reason you want somebody else to talk out loud about their strategy, about their strategy, about, their strategy. is because you're talking out loud about your strategy that will never work. The only person who ever says, well, what are you doing? Are people who are doing things that are absolutely useless? I never, I don't care.

I mean, I don't care. I don't care what my former libertarian friends are doing and everything. If they want, if they want my advice on something, they can ask. you know, I have no problem helping anyone, anyone, as long as they're respectful, as long as there, no problem at all. We'll fucking bend over backwards to help you. And I can confirm that because Pete's done the same for me. Like, this is not, but, you know, for a lot of these pro-life people,

and a lot of them are, you know, childless women in their 40s and 50s. who, you know, were raised right, and so they have this empathy for this sort of thing. But, sweetheart, ma'am, I love you. You're a wonderful person. It's really good of you to care for these babies. But until you can make the friend enemy distinction of like our enemies are not fit to wield power, and they're going to commit abortion and you want to go jump on a grenade and save those, save our enemies. It's not going to work. It's just going to make more enemies.

Okay? It pains me to say that. I genuinely feel bad. You know, I really genuinely don't like it. But it is true. that until you have a regime in power that does not care what the, you know, does not care about the Post-Durembert consensus, right?

You're always going to lose because any time you try and do anything, stop the abortion holocaust you're using you're playing on the enemy's field they're going to beat you every single time because stopping abortion oh you must hate black people you're racist you're basically hit until you can break out of that frame and say I mean he had some good points Had some bad points I wouldn't have invaded Greece Maybe you should have taken that six weeks

Instead of saving Mussolini Should have driven from Moscow But you know overall he was pretty effective guy Until you can actually discuss the world As it actually is You're gonna lose and if you're a pro lifer in Ohio and I think there was

there was one like nice sweet evangelical lady who was part of the pro life Ohio movement who you know over this October 7th right like the people who run pro life Ohio you know were Jews and they got her fired if you're a pro lifer in Ohio what's happening in Springfield should horrify you. Not because little kids are getting killed or cats get eaten or whatever,

but because it's entrenching demonic abortionists in power in Springfield for the next 50 years. You will lose in Springfield, Ohio, for 50 years. if you don't get a handle on this and be honest about it I can't show my face because the people who are listening to this who are hostile would destroy my life and starve my kids

if they're the sort of people that would destroy people's lives over a political disagreement what makes you think you can reason with them you think another argument about when a baby's insult matters to these people it doesn't matter

not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk in the world but he debated some pro-abortion woman and it went around on telegram and, you know, she's bringing up all these super, super edge cases. What about, you know, the 10-year-old or the 5-year-old, they got pregnant, and this, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I hope, you know, what about these? And there was not a factor, you know,

Charlie Kirkson, or, well, what about facts and logic, you know, and, you know, he got the better of her in debate, right? But this is not a woman who's reachable with reason. You just have to take away her franchise, pat her on the head, and put her at the kids' table, until you're willing to do that pro-life moment, you're going to lose. Okay, until you want to say, look, ladies, if you want to vote, you've got to have at least two kids.

You know, who'd be in favor of that? Anne Coulter. Anne Coulter doesn't think women should vote. But if you want women to vote, you have to have two kids within marriage. You want public assistance. You got to be married. You want government housing? You got to be married.

Because right now, all the people who think abortion is great, treat you, you, pro-lifers, they treat the men in your life's wallet like a pizza that's been given to them for free that they get to cut up. and they fight over what's in your wallet and they take it from you and you're expected to just hand you over your wallet

every April 15th or quarterly if you're self-employed who boy, that's a fun one, isn't it? Pete, right in both sides of Social Security for yourself and you know you're not going to get any. Yeah. It's about the dryest.

left that ever heard from you. So, all right. If you really want to build a pro-life culture in the United States of America, you're going to have to get power and use it to boost the people that are pro-life. You have to change the culture.

You have to destroy the local public school. Because that's just a cat lady factory. you're going to have to get it so that you're going to have to get your clergyman to a point where they don't advocate civilizational suicide every Sunday in the pulpit. We need a new welcome our new brothers and sisters from Congo or Guatemala or Haiti. You're going to have to do something that requires both the long game, and pragmatic realism about where we're actually at.

You're going to have to get rid of every Jew in any position of any kind of power whatsoever. You're going to have to stop posting Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro or Nat Hentoff or any of these people as like pro-lifers that you agree with. They don't. Abortion, as E. Michael Jones has pointed out, is a fundamental Jewish value. Because Talmudic Judaism is just Satanism. That's all it is. And anybody that wants to sit here, well, what about, no, they're not your friends.

You're going to have to listen to people like Andrew Torba and Andrew Isker. and Stephen Wolfe and Corey Mahler and, you know, real solid Christians who are dealing with the world as it actually is. Or you're going to lose. And it pains me to be as brutal about this sort of thing as I am, but I've got 20 years of doing this. And, or more, actually. And when you constantly seed the ground, seed the frame to the enemy, and allow the enemy to set the rules, you lose. That's the truth.

When, you know, all pro-life bills will say, well, you know, abortion was illegal in all 13 colonies and was illegal in the United States, you know, everywhere up until such a time. You know who was in charge then? White Christians. That's who was in charge. That's who wrote those laws. Those people who filled that society. You're not going to get those pro-life laws back

until you make those people in charge again. Maybe not the majority population, or the majority population, but they have to be the ones in power. You know, and you keep saying that, you know, you have to want power. That doesn't mean that you have to run for office. That just means that you have to, you may have to organize to have the right people run for office,

to have your friends run for office. You know, I've said recently that I would, you know, I want to have, like, my friends in the, you know, in the Trump administration. And it's not because we agree on everything politically. It's because we're friends. I'll give you the perfect example. We share values. I'll give you a perfect example.

If one of our guys in your county is the county health inspector or start to the county public health department. And every second Tuesday of the month, they go by the local abortion clinic and they inspect the place top to bottom. How long do you think that place is going to remain open when they get a $300 fine for the slightest, you know, a pen being out of place for the wrong spot?

Hmm? If one of our guys is in charge at the county health department and, oh, hey, look at that. We're not vaccining everybody in this county. It's not a public health matter. The cold is not an urgent public health matter. but I'll tell you what isn't there's a public health matter making sure everybody who's at this clinic is properly licensed

oh you're not properly licensed doctor abortion is so-and-so oh well you don't have admitting privileges at the local hospital I'm sorry you can't practice here Kermit Gossnell is a pretty awful horror story for those of you who might remember it he kept literally kept babies in pieces in jars and stuff

was a black doctor in Philadelphia not qualified remotely to be a physician but that's all of these people I mean he was in a particularly egregious case but do you think like real good competent physicians like

sign up to murder babies who does that evil people do that wicked people do that incompetent people do that you're not going to get you know cream of the crop from Harvard medical school or

um John Hopkins or any place like that to be abortionists So just make sure that they're, you know, inspected on a regular basis. Make sure that all the nurses have their license requirements met. Make sure that the people who actually have children can support them. Make sure the economy is structured so that, you know, mom can stay home and dads can go to work.

making it so that housing doesn't cost 10 times what it did. You know, Pete and I have talked about housing a lot. Maybe if people lived in coherent neighborhoods again, and their neighbors were people that they went to church with and were of a similar ethnic background and they'd known each other for all their lives, maybe they could, you know, mom could go to work for a couple, and the kids could go next door to people that were,

basically family, and they wouldn't need to have, you know, go to daycare with people that they don't know. Pro-life is a totality thing. It's not just a, oh, we're just against abortion. You have to have affordable family formation. You have to have housing that works for families. You have to have jobs in an economy that works for families. You have to have food that families can afford. I guarantee you that there are families that are desperate

that have gotten abortions in the last two years because of food prices. Think about that. In America, people have been driven to have murder babies because food got so expensive. I just spent $200 on groceries today. I was late to this recording. For Suffet, it should have cost me $80 three years ago. You think that's not a pro-life issue? How is having more people come here who are completely dependent on taxpayer funds

drive up rents because they're getting thousands of dollars from the government get free food get free health care don't have to have car insurance don't get their houses inspected so that there's only

you know one person per bedroom but there's 20 people living in a three bedroom house How can a normal person compete with that? How much money would you have in your pocket, Pete? If I paid your rent, your grocery bill, your medical costs, and for your transportation. Life would be good. That's for sure. I mean, you'd have no major expenses left.

Yeah. so if you want to build a pro-life regime in America you're going to have to do things like I don't know pay for the young white people of America the young white people of Ohio of Alabama of wherever give them that largesse instead of foreigners who hate you and will always always

is always, vote against your interests. You know, the Trump campaign is here, oh, we're going to get a majority of black males. Bull. Absolutely not. You might get more. You're not going to get the majority. Because the entire Democratic Party since 1965 or whatever.

since the 60s, has been based off of giving them free stuff. Well, they shouldn't want free stuff. If you read Thomas Sowell, please. Most black people in the inner city are illiterates. They don't care what Thomas Sowell has to say. They don't care what Walter Williams has to say. Well, well, if you listen to Alan Keyes' natural law argument against Barack Obama about gay marriage, he completely destroys him.

Well, yeah, he did. It was embarrassing. But you think that the black people of Chicago even know who Alan Keyes is or that they're capable of listening to an argument between two professors? They don't care. They're going to have to have pro-life policies imposed on them. they're on what generation four or five of total welfare dependence

they've never lived outside of government housing they've never been to a doctor that they paid for they've never bought their own groceries and you're gonna you're gonna make this person into an independent yeoman republican who's pro-life overnight by making an argument are you crazy I understand that abortion is a horrifying subject

and it's awful to think about and it's fissually off-putting I understand all of that but in motion goes to the left because you can make the argument what about the poor babies but they can also always make an argument

what about the poor child who's been you know is eight years old and was raped by your father and is pregnant with triplets and doesn't speak English from Guatemala and she came here from a boat from Africa like you could they can always outdo you in that department the left is based off emotion you're always going to lose

and I keep repeating this because I want listeners to this program probably know the score already but when you're arguing with pro-life people in your life keep hammering this you will always lose if you don't deal with reality and that's all I'm asking you to do as my friend Boisroy says

all I'm asking is that you engage with reality and the reality is a lesson until you acknowledge that our society is structurally against set up against the family and in particular against white people having families and until you rectify that, you're going to lose. So there's things you could do government policy-wise to fix these, but you need to be in power first before you do it.

And until you're willing to actually exercise that power, until you're willing to put your differences aside and actually accomplish things, all you're doing is wasting your time and money. You know, there are multiple people. I've talked to you on different podcasts who should be both vastly higher paid than they are, but should be running institutions. And they're not because they are,

we're foolish not to get on a podcast with me. And I'm radioactive. Because I'm, you know, racist, fascist, homophobic, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. you want to be a pro-life, put Key Canotas in charge of Cato Institute. Then, you know, we'll still some real pro-life policies happen. Put, you know, put Andrew Isker in a position to run a seminary. Put people who actually understand. the way the world works, in positions of power and influence,

you know, put James Edwards in charge of Southern Baptist Convention. Then, you'll see some real change. Until you're willing to actually do it, all you're doing is mine. And if that's what you want to do, fine. But you don't get to tell me what to do. And until you want to engage with reality, you're just talking and those of us who actually want to accomplish something have a perfect right to tell you to be quiet yeah I mean the fact that

the fact that more people aren't talking about you know how Springfield is basically a city that unless they just basically bring in bus after bus after bus after bus and take these people to i mean moving 20,000 people isn't easy but you can do it if you want to unless you want to get them out of there that that city is basically now poured out prints in the middle east in the in the Midwest. Yeah. I mean, that's it. That town is gone.

That town is now a Haitian town. And, you know, if you want to go down of South Florida and talk to, like, the Cubans and the blacks, the American blacks,

you know what they, you know what both of those people have in common down there? Both of those groups have in common down there? They hate Haitians. They look at Haitians and they're like, what are they doing here? I mean, who allowed them to come in? And I don't want to make this all about one group, but it is. I mean, you're literally talking about the funniest thing that I saw this week, not funny, but Scott Adams.

Scott Adams was upset because somebody contacted him and told him that the, you know, he's like, why are you lying to me and telling me the average IQ in Haiti is 62? And he's like, and he, you know, he does this Scott Adams thing. He goes, so I went to debunk them. And I said, there's no way that they have an IQ of 70. that it has to be it has to be somewhere

you know in a higher range and he goes and I found out that or he said it has to be something different than like 70 and he's like

I found out I was right it was 62 so that's barely what do you do with that? Yeah what do you do with that? I mean they're not

the the interim police chief of Silicaaga, who you can imagine what he looks like. Somebody said he looks like a retired rapper. Has said he's not going to, he's not going to arrest any of these people because he can't communicate with him. He said, and any of his police who do are going to be written up. And you think this isn't a plan, you think this didn't, you think this happened on

by accident? it? These people hate you. They took tens of thousands of millions of your dollars extracted at the point of a gun. And they brought these people here to destroy you and kill you. And even when you give them money, speaking in South Florida, Tyreek Hill, star wide receiver for the Miami Dolbins, right?

He gets out of a game like last Sunday, two Sundays ago maybe. He gets pulled over by bike cops because he was doing 120 in a 40 zone. And the bike cops, God bless him of these tough Latino guys. And there, Emma rolled down the window because this window superintendent. No. Hey, man, roll down the window. window. I need to be able to see you, man. And you can watch the tape up on YouTube or

wherever. This is a dude who is driving, like at Lamborghini or some, some ridiculous, like half a million dollar car. Great. He's been given fame and fortune and everything that goes with it to quote the queen's song. Right. and he and a co-worker of his who got out of the car to almost start a fight with the cops over him getting arrested. Callais Campbell, one of his teammates. Instead of being like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have been doing 120 in a 40 phone or even a 60, like 120, like 120, but there's no road in America where you're not going at least. 40 miles an hour over the speed limit. See, you know, one and a half times the 80 miles an hour, which is probably the highest speed limit in America.

There's no place in America where that isn't a massive ticket, a take your license away sort of ticket. And this guy proceeds to act a complete fool, act belligerent, and then get himself cuffed and arrested. Okay. I think his, his house burned down because he didn't have, you know, I'm pretty sure it's Tyreeks Hill's house that burned down. Pete, did you look that up? Because he didn't have proper smoke detectors. Right? Of course, right? The ceiling bird chirps. This man has been given everything. Is he polite? is he grateful she like man i should be you know thank god for all these white people who love to watch football they give me everything i should be i should be really really grateful to them no he's a complete dirt bag he's an entitled piece of crap and instead of

wanting to live in a society where stuff like that doesn't happen pro-lifers will say well but abortion disproportionately affects black people we've got to stop it it's racist so what

let's be honest with ourselves and say, yeah, you know what, the black American population not exactly known for their ability to live with others. And that's caused untold amounts of abortion in this country, not just because the abortions that they get, but the nice middle class couple. They could only afford two kids to send a private school because they live near Atlanta. and they can't send their kids to Atlanta public schools because they die. And so that 35-year-old mom of two who works,

you know, her birth control failed and she got an abortion. Because her and her husband can't afford another kid. And a little 17-year-old Janie, right? who was sexually assaulted by people that shouldn't have been around her in the first place. Her mom and dad quietly take her to the abortion clinic because they know what color the baby is going to be and it's not the one that they wanted for their grandkid. I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's what's happened. And until pro-lifers can deal with the realities in front of their face,

and be honest that abortion is here. It was on a couple weeks ago with Great Tim Kelly, and he put it this way. In modesty and dress and feminism, which is a transgender movement, led to pornography, which led to abortion,

or which led to contraception, which led to abortion, which led to transgenderism. You have to reject all of it. And you have to be honest enough with yourself to go, it's going to take a long time to reverse all these ill effects. It's going to take years of hard, patient work, of rebuilding a culture that is actually capable of being pro-life. Our culture right now is not capable of being pro-life

because we live in the degenerate society. And until you want to do the hard work that it's going to take to change that, every time you give in to the regime framing, you make it that much harder to change course. Make it impossible to change course. You know, I mean, when Donald Trump says, if Kamala Harris wins, Israel will be destroyed. Okay, well, you just gave me a good vision to vote Kamala. But if you're not willing to actually deal with the reality, you're going to lose.

Well, I got to button it up for tonight, man. I'm sorry for the delay, but, I mean, am I wrong? I'm sorry. You've been pretty quiet. This has pretty much just been me ranting all night. No, I mean, it's, I mean, I'm at my wits. And it's like, you, people really need to start understanding. now that they can't wait until

they have to start planning for this stuff now to happen in their area especially if they live in a really nice area, especially if they live in a rural nice area. I mean 20,000 Haitians in the span of 18 months, your town

is gone. That's two divisions. That's like the 801st you know and it's and one of the reasons I keep bringing that up and I brought that up is because it's the same thing as the abortion thing it's like you're you're just not going to do anything about it you're not you're just not you're if you're not willing to do it about that what do you suppose I mean people are people who have to leave

like the only place their family's ever lived I mean look at like like CJ Engel, like a six-generation Californian and Andrew Isker, like a sixth-generation Minnesotan, they're like leaving. Why? It's just, it's been taken over. I had to leave. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, well, we're not going to tell, say anything about from where and to where. I won't because, but, yeah, but yeah. And you had to leave. you were from the greatest city on the place of the planet yeah why why

couldn't you you know in what we know circumstances otherwise but why couldn't you be peeped from Queens who took your like why weren't you able to get married to a girl down the block

who you know in all your life you went to the same parish you went to the same high school that was you know you know the girl next door you get married you live in an apartment two blocks from where your folks lived

you went to the same church does 2,200 murders a year yeah because 2,200 murders a year that's right and until the people who in the pro-life movement accept the truth about

the JQ the reality of race the reality of women not being fit to hold any kind of political power, and as long as they accept framing of the enemy, they will continue to lose continuously. There's no way to win

if you're playing by the enemy's rules. If you want a world where every child is welcomed, then you're going to have to work to disempower the Jews, repatriate all the immigrants, and remove the franchise from women, period. And that's, you can like it or not, but that's what's going on.

And until you're willing to be honest about that, babies will continue to get slaughtered by the tens of millions. You know, the Nuremberg regime supplied Stalin with 10,000 aircraft from Montana that flew all the way through Canada, all the way through Alaska, and all the way, like halfway around the world, it was like 10,000 miles. And enough material for 40 divisions from around through the Caucasus. Stalin himself says that they would have lost without all the stuff that the Americans gave these people. no Stalin, no Mao, no Mao, no, uh, no, uh, no, uh, no, uh, no one child program in China that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions, no, uh, no, uh, no, uh, no, no J dominated America. no New Deal regime that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions. You know, this is a serious, serious thing where the people in charge effectively worship Satan

and sacrifice babies to Molok for political power. Until you're willing to treat it like that and not an excuse to virtue signal, you're going to lose. and you have to reward your friends and be indifferent to your enemies. If New York wants to go to Satan, it pains me to say this. It's a beautiful city. I wish I gotten to see it when it was still something. But that's not my problem. I can't care about that.

I can care about my patchy dirt. And the pro-life movement has to care about their people and only their people. Or they'll lose. Make sure every kid in your church can have three kids and then get back to me about the poor, benighted Haitian immigrants. I don't see why people think that they shouldn't be taking care of their own when they look around and every other group is taking care of their own. Why?

Just because somebody told you that white people are evil? Why do you believe them? Why do you care? Why do you care what they have to say? The same people that have sacrificed 60 million American babies to Satan tell you you're evil for caring about your people as opposed to the people that sacrificed babies to Satan. Huh?

Like, what? Kamala Harris is a prostitute who murders babies. She tries to people who stop that, tries to throw them in jail. She sells baby parts. Why do you care what anybody who's on her side of anything thinks about anything at all? Oh, they call you racist. So what?

46% of black women have herpes. You think you're going to get them to stop behaving in a vulnerable way just because you told them that it was wrong? Haitian immigrants are driving with, they're killing old people by a little old lady who was just putting her trash out. By driving, just driving all, over the road drunk at 10 a.m.

You think you're going to breach that person with an argument? They have an IQ of 67. I'm not saying we should be pro. Margaret Sangha was a goal. She was an evil person. She was a servant of the devil. Right? But when she says, oh, I want to kill all the stupid people.

you can't be like, well, I, I, we need to be very pro, pro the stupid people because that's the moral thing to do. Like, no, you need to be pro good people. And eventually they'll find a way to take care of the stupid people. But you can't let me. You know who, um, do you know who the wealthiest person in Haiti is? Uh, I believe it's the one billionaire in the island who's Jewish. Can't remember his name. Gilbert, Gilbert, Beasio.

A Sephardic Jew from Aleppo in what is now Syria. Yep. Just like Heim Sabin, no, no, Heim Sabin is Jewish. The guy who owns New York Times is a, Carlos Slim. Carlos Slim is a Lebanese. Is, I don't think he's Jewish, but he's, he's, of Syria. or Lebanese extraction. The entire elite in those countries is low trust, you know, gold chain race.

And because they're not, like, there's no, how are you going to find a guy to run the DMV with an IQ of 67? That's the average. Half or dumber than that. All right. Let's wrap. I got to get. Good night. I got to get some sleep.

Yeah. No. Thank you, man. I'll make sure to link to your telegram chats and everything. And, yeah, thank you. Thank you. I mean, I know that we bounced around a little bit, but I hope people understand that all of these things are related, you know.

And I brought up Augustine because Augustine said that Christians, Christians can go to war when there's, with the intention to make peace, with the intention to bring order I mean and I'm not asking people to be violent politics is war by other means but if you look around

and you think that we have peace and we have calm and we have order then there's something wrong with you and there's something equally wrong with you if you call yourself a Christian and you think that somehow you martyring yourself and your kids and basically murdering making the decision to martyr every other Christian in this country because oh we're not supposed to do

anything we lose down here we all our treasures stored up in heaven well again it's one of the reasons why i i didn't there have been long stretches in my life where i just avoided church not because i didn't not because i didn't not because i didn't believe in the doctrine not because i didn't but because i just didn't want to be around the people just didn't want to be around these people pathetic i mean they're really really pathetic that's it that's what i got Thank you.