The Pete Quiñones Show - The Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson Episodes (Updated) - Complete
Episode Date: December 14, 20259 Hours and 44 MinutesPG-13These are the episodes featuring Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson minus the 200 Years Together readings (so far). Uprisings and Pogroms in Historic Ukraine A Century of Zionist... Violence Vladimir Putin and His EnemiesThe Myth And Lies of the Russian 'Pogroms' The 'Red Terror' in Russia (1918-1922)Ukraine, Israel and Endless DestructionThe History of Khmelnytsky and his CossacksKarl Marx's Zur Judenfrage w/ Dr. Matthew Raphael JohnsonWho Is Claudia Sheinbaum?Dr Johnson's PatreonRusJournal.orgTHE ORTHODOX NATIONALISTDr. Johnson's Radio Albion PageDr. Johnson's Books on AmazonPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.
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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cignonos show.
I am pleased to have Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson with me today.
How are you doing, Dr. Johnson?
Yeah, I think it's about time.
We got together.
I know we have some mutual friends.
I'm doing okay.
So I'm really happy to be here.
I'm really happy to be helping you out this way.
I appreciate you doing this because this is one of those topics that once you start to
understand it,
starts leading you in other places and even up to the modern day.
But before we get into the meat of the discussion,
why don't you tell everybody a little bit about yourself?
Well, for those who don't know,
I've been doing this sort of thing professionally for 32 years now.
I've had my PhD in the history of political philosophy from University of Nebraska,
and then I went straight to Willis Cardo's Liberty Lobby.
The Barnes Review, and I worked under him for many years, and then I was a professor of many
universities until COVID hit, really.
And then, yeah, it just, I assume at that point, just like many other people, you just had to
adopt a new paradigm.
Well, it wasn't that difficult.
Academia has reached a point where I can't function in it anymore, but my name, I'm known enough
where through things like
website and Patreon and everything else
I can make some sort of a
decent living
but even when I was in college
in the 90s there's no
and grad school
it's an extremely difficult place
I always thought of it as a test
experiment for what the rest
of the society is going to be like in the future
like collective farm
but
since
I got my degree in my
I've written 16 books or something.
I can never remember.
And I've been, you know, the leader as far as nationalism is concerned in Russian and Ukrainian history.
And I was the very first one.
And this was in the early 2000s when I was at the Barnes Review in D.C.
To say that Putin was going to do things that we really could use.
That he is going to be, everyone at the time was calling him a communist KGB.
the right was saying that, the left was saying that, and that was by myself, and I convinced Willis Cardo and Michael Collins Piper that this is not true, and his agenda is not known yet.
I used to think it was Alexander Lebed in the 90s, and then they murdered him.
So that whole right-wing interest in Russia comes directly from me, and I took so much crap for it back.
They'd only been in office a couple of years by then.
And now, of course, it's taken for granted.
But at the time, the right wing was screaming and yelling about this guy.
He turned on his financiers.
And, you know, it's one of my several claims to fame.
But my main function now is the lecture series at Radio Albion,
which is located in Britain
the owner of that is in prison
for crimes against liberalism
you know thought crimes
and that's Sven Longchengs
and that gives me a forum
I have an hour long lecture on Wednesday
and a half hour more current events thing on Thursday
and it's called the Orthodox Nationalist
Orthodox religion nationalist in politics
which is how it's really organized.
And then my own website, rushdurnal.org, which I don't, I have to keep up with.
I'm not, but I need to do that.
And, of course, my Patreon page.
But if you go to Radio Albion, and I think in the description, you can have the website connected to that,
the Orthodox Nationalist.orgpress.com, where you can buy books.
You could donate to me directly, because I do this full time.
This is not a part-time job.
And I'm financed exclusively by my readers and listeners.
So that's, you know, this is what I'm doing now.
I just got remarried after a wretched divorce in 2014.
And this is, and, you know, I'm 50.
I'm going to be 52 soon.
And I'm getting to the point professionally where I could pretty much do what I want.
and I have some very loyal readers and listeners.
It was 2009.
I started doing the radio thing at a place called The Voice of Reason, which I don't think exists anymore.
But they're essentially university lectures concerning topics of interest to people like us.
Generally, you know, the nationalist right, whatever you want to call them, Palaio, the Palaio types, you know, E. Michael Jones type of
person or Russell Kirk, um, dogan, you know, people like that. So, and, and this is what I do.
This is what I do full time now. How long did you last in academia? Well, I taught when I was
getting my PhD for several years. I got a Warren Buffett, um, uh, fellowship to go there in, in 95.
Um, and then when I went to Willis Cardo, I left to get a university job, Mount St. Mary.
University in Maryland from there I taught a couple classes at Penn State
Mount Alto a few community colleges I would say that came to an end
2018 but I did teach another class after that I won't do online stuff but that's
where everything is thanks to COVID so I pulled out for that reason but clearly
it's not the only reason I probably couldn't go back if there was a gun to my head
Yeah, I was, it's shocking to me that you could have lasted that long having the, the Cardo associations, some of the associations you had.
And I just, I think it really just goes to show just how much things have changed even in the last four or five years.
Yeah, it irritates me when, you know, I'm not a big fan of conservatives in general.
I think they're extremely naive.
And, of course, I was one in college, you know, I got human events.
national review and all that stuff long before there was an internet um but you know this this
propaganda term woke which irritates the hell out of me conservatives being so naive they'll
actually use that term which is a flattering term for the honest it's the same left that's existed
for a very long time they just found a new set of targets and they cancel stuff you know it's
it's as if when the it's only when the media discovers uh something and gives it a name of course
they're a big part of this anyway. Only then does it exist. But this was the same in the early
90s. You know, that was just before the electronic social media revolution. So there's
nothing new here. But what happened, you know, the fraud of 2020, especially the what's his
name killing in Minnesota, which was, you know, he was not killed by them, given what we know
today, that created an impetus in the riots of summer of 2020 to, you know, that was a
violent revolution you need for the Red Guards to take over. And they function very much
like, whether it be in China or the Soviet Union. I have a book out on the Soviet Union,
and I'm working on a book on China, China as a national socialist state rather than a,
rather than a communist one. So that irritates the heck out of me. And I think I survived an academia for
while because my name is very common and I have a laundry list of academic accomplishments
and don't underestimate the fact that I'm a nice guy I know how to get along with people
so I'm not going to go and preaching anything to these guys I'm not particularly
ideological in my like the unlike the left in any university lecturing I do ask
some impertinent questions but that's that's about it and it's a thing
thing like, you know, they hear something about me.
They'll go, well, Matt's a nice guy, but he's a little nuts, but he's a nice guy.
And that's, that, that is how to do it.
You don't go in the first day screaming and yelling about how corrupt the place is.
You save that for later.
So you get to the subject at hand, I guess I really didn't start looking into Ukrainian politics
until about 2014 when everything started happening there.
And then I started reading history.
I got a translation of 200 years together by Solzhenycin in English, and I started reading that.
And that really piqued my interest because even though he a lot of the, most of the concentration is on the last 200 years,
he does a really good brief summary of the history of what happened in Ukraine and Russia.
before that, coming forward from about, I think, about 1,1100 he does in the book.
And I started talking with a friend of mine, and we started talking about what comes to be,
what came to be known as, the Kemmelnetsky Uprising.
And when I started looking at that, I was really intrigued because the players involved
the body count on on a couple sides there and it just seemed like something that could have been
very significant and even something that could be in the minds of certain people up until today
and so I asked my friend I said who's the best on this subject and he mentioned your name
reached out to you here you are if you want to give any kind of introduction into it ready to jump
right in if you are. Well, as far as Jews are concerned, followers of the Talmud and the rabbinical
system, other than Hitler himself, the only close second to that in the Jewish mind in terms of
tragedy is the Kimonitki uprising, which in part was against the Jews who were not just asking for
it, they were begging for it. And in fact, there's plenty of even mainstream writers that can't
avoid the awful Jewish behavior.
Remember, this occurs in the Polish Empire, where the Polish nobility, I mean, there
wasn't much of a central state there.
Poland was the largest country in Europe.
The king was mostly toothless, for the most part, and it was an oligarchy of landed
magnates.
And by 1700, there was about 80% of the Jewish population lived.
in the Polish Empire.
And they very tightly controlled it
because the aristocracy who controlled the country
did not engage in any kind of banking
or administration or trade in the cities.
That they brought, deliberately brought in the Jews
to act as their agents.
It's kind of like hiring an accountant.
And Polish nobles weren't particularly good
when it came to business.
They were involved in trying to create the old, you know, Roman Republic and the other fantasies they had about themselves.
So all of their financial dealings, everything from, you know, loans and pawn shops and all the rest, were in Jewish hands.
Jews, of course, worked in the name of whoever the landlord was.
Some of these estates were bigger than, you know, like Holland.
These were humongous places.
And so you had a number of, you know, so this.
exploded in the Kimunitsky rebellion in 1648 because Jewish power was so overwhelming
there was a messianic spirit for the first time in a long time in 1620 1630s in
Poland we ruled was called the paradise of the Jews at the time Jews were pouring into
the place especially after after Spain and their power was so overwhelming and they generally
engaged in short-term leases, and whenever the – which were monopoly leases, that could be a – it could be a small region.
It could be a church. It could be a – it could be a pastor land, whatever it might be. And the – of course, the noble Lord would get a piece of it.
And as Jews were heavily involved in usury, of course, and credit was called the Arenda system.
And in Polish, actually, Arenda and Jew is almost the same word.
It just means a short-term leaseholder.
And this is how Jews came into Poland.
This is how the country and the empire expanded, especially into parts of today Ukraine that has a very very
very different sort of people there than the Poles.
They've been enemies for some time.
And you have a number of players.
Of course, you have the Polish nobility.
You have the Jews themselves.
You have the Ukrainian Cossacks.
Now, of course, I should note, I have a book on this topic,
simply called Ukrainian nationalism,
which is you could find it on Amazon,
published by Hermata Press and with the assistance of the journal Russia Insider,
who I'm close to.
And the Turkish Empire was involved, of course, Russia, and then later on Sweden.
That's not even to mention the Polish monarch who on occasion would gain some sort of traction.
Though I think one of the reasons the Polish nobility brought the Jews in was to avoid the bear situation where a crown could tax the monetized economy of the cities and grow in power.
since Jews were dependent on their Polish protectors
and there's a number of Jewish historians that say
they got more obnoxious as times went on
they owned in the name of their lord of course
most of the land and most of the religious institutions
especially in in Ukraine
and given the extreme nature of Polish serfdom
than Jewish usury Jews were the tax farmers
and because their leases were generally
short term it um they didn't have much they didn't have long to to recoup their investment it was
intensive exploitation of these estates overworking the land the peasantry and not really caring
too much about long long term effects um and when they obtained the right to to collect and impose
taxes and fees even for church services um it it got it got worse and worse Polish serfdom was
particularly nasty. And it's even worse than that in Ukraine because you don't, they're not
Catholics. And so as Polish landholding became more and more centralized, as either states
became larger and larger, you had this excellent utilitarian connection between Jews and the
Polish nobility. The Jews didn't really speak the language. They never assimilated, of course,
They were involved in the Kahal system, which was their communal form of rule under the absolute control, the council, or even the head rabbi.
And the Poles, the nobility, could worry about military stuff and fighting, giving all of their financial stuff over into the Jews.
There's really nobody who has any brains at all that doesn't say or doesn't have to admit that the Jews were extremely irrational and unjust and exploiting.
in their financial practices.
And by the time Kimo Nitsky and the Kosak host rose up in 1648,
of course they'd been dozens of uprisings prior to that.
The Ukrainian and even much of the Polish working class in the peasantry
had been entirely dispossessed.
And so when the explosion finally came,
there was this whole movement that we can do whatever we want
because the Messiah is going to be coming.
And he's going to be coming here.
And it's because of our power.
here that we know that the Messiah is coming. Well, rather than the Messiah, they got Kim Il-Nitsky.
And the wars lasted really until the 1650s. And the Cossacks were the main fighters.
Kimon-Nitsky himself was in the higher ranks of the Cossack host. The Zaporosian Sikh
or the fortress in the banks in the rapids of the Dianeper, which was the
Perosia means. That name comes up a lot because of the nuclear plant that's there. It means
beyond the rapids, which was the main Cossack headquarters. Now, the Cossack is Slavic, and you had
to be orthodox to be a member, were what we would call freebooters, which is where the word comes
from. And they had a fortress, you know, the bikers of the day, but they had a strict moral
code in a very
their job was to raid
the Turkish Empire and rescue slaves
from the island of Khafa which was
run by Jews
and the
Crimea was run by an Islamic
Khan so the Emirate
which is a dependency on the Ottoman Empire
used the Kimmelnitsky uprising
to make more money for them
by engaging in the slave trade
Jews eventually talked
him into not backing Kimulnitsky and that's
when his rebellion fell apart
But the constant, you know, the demands of the Cossack hosts, they were spokesmen for the Ukrainian people at the time, they were strictly Orthodox, they were the military force of the church, and because they were so fanatically, you know, it was a knighthood, it was a brotherhood.
They believed in a Christian equality, and they loathed more than, you know, the Polish nobility, especially in their relationship with the Jews.
because for them, both the Catholics and the Jews that were the worst possible enemy by the time of the uprising.
And, you know, previous uprisings for the same reason, just total dispossession, wanting to even not just destroy the Kossack homes, but reduce them to serfs, which is really one of the things that sparked this.
And rather than deal with them, unless they absolutely had to, their reprisals for previous uprisings were so violent.
that you know it didn't solve anything so the situation by 1648 and in Poland especially in
the Ukrainian Orthodox areas was absolutely intolerable life simply wasn't worth living and it
certainly wasn't worth working because no one really had anything by this point don't forget
still the Baltic grain trade and the Jewish monopoly over liquor was what were the big you
know, for-profit crops, and that just means even more to work the peasantry to the bone.
And so that's why the Polish nobility, in the one hand, the Jews and the other, became, at least in the Cossack mind, one and the same thing.
So the Cossack movement that exploded that year under him, it had the force of decades, maybe 100 years, of this kind of extreme, almost hyper-exam.
exploitation. And of course, from then on, the Polish Empire weakened. And in what, 150 years
later, whatever it was, the Polish Empire seeks to exist. So they became victims of this short-term
financial mentality. And, of course, the partitions of Poland in the late 18th century, that was
the end of the empire. But the causes of all that can be laid.
laid at this mean this is the main foundation for it and the Cossacks fought for the Orthodox Church
and for a rational you know economy rather than usury you know labor and usury are opposites
and and so they became the core of of later Ukraine of course clearly ideologically it's not
the case anymore but that was Ukraine Ukraine came into existence as
as an orthodox state under Cossack control in their battles with the Polish and to a lesser extent the Turkish and Russian empires.
That's where it, that's where it came from.
That's what Ukraine is.
I mean, to this day, the Hetman's, the Hetman was ahead of the Cossack coast.
His mace is used in the, in the Rada, Kiev as a sign of authority.
It's like a big mace.
I have a replica of one here, in fact.
And that's, that's what Ukraine is.
So it's by definition, you know, almost a national, certainly a nationalist, national anarchist,
agrarian state with a Cossack military corps.
And the empire probably would, the Polish empire would have been conquered had not the Crimean Khan
been bought off by these very same Jews and then turned on Kim Mnitsky.
So then after that, it gets very complicated when you.
Ukraine was divided between the right bank and the left bank, and, of course, the partition of Poland
150 years afterwards.
But that's the basic foundation of what we're talking about.
Before we jump into any more detail there, it does seem like that story of a certain group
not being able to invest and make the kind of money they want.
they hear about this group of people who can they invite them in and then just as the system
we have today where the people on the top are getting the richest it actually starts to
impoverish the population around the person who brought them in to make money and it just
seems that, you know, when you read, like, Werner Sombart's book, he talks about that,
how that happened in multiple locations and it always ended up in expulsions, or worse.
Yeah, the, and not just Sombard, you know, E. Michael Jones is Barron Metal, which is a history
of Eusory, starting from North Italy and then going right up to the present day.
One of the best books, he's one of my favorite authors.
I know him personally.
and he uses some bark quite a quite a bit just to make that very same point you know the the gentile polish nobility was a little on the naive side
they just figured we could keep the money out of the hands of a monarch is going to tell us what to do the jews seemed to be very industrious and at the time you know economics as a science didn't exist the same thing for north italy no matter how sophisticated their banks were
they didn't realize what Yusri amounted to.
They didn't realize that, you know, the Jews come in with a massive amount of capital.
They could undercut their opponents.
They seemed to have an unlimited amount of credit.
They could undercut their Gentile opponents in that respect.
Many of them refused to charge interest, couldn't charge interest, forgetting that, you know, any economic downturn, you're going to have defaults all over the place,
which means, at least in the Polish case, the land and equipment capital, going to the Jews in the employ of the nobility, that wherever you go, use for you lead to mass impoverishment.
It's both a cause and a result of economic failures.
But it was very difficult to compete with a group of people who have, you know, thanks to the Talmud and later on the Zohar, a mission to gain wealth and power.
at the expense of their rivals, which is why Jones wrote his book in the first place.
And it's very uniform.
When you read all the documents about why they were expelled from, I forget, 109 since the end of the Roman Empire, country, cities, whatever, the complaints are identical.
It's unfair business practices.
It's mass indebtedness.
It's the property of the poor and middle class going to Jewish.
overlords and the state itself dependent on these people for a steady flow of credit and cash.
And it doesn't take long before the concentration of economic power in the Kahal, in the
Jewish elite, ended up taking over the state slowly but surely without the Gentile leadership
having any idea what's going on. And that's exactly what happened in Poland. They were engaged in
short-term profiteering, forgetting about what the long-term results of usury and dishonest
trading practices are going to lead to.
And Kimonitsky is what it led to, one of the worst examples of this.
And they had an excellent case.
Now, the killings of the Jews in that revolution have been exaggerated.
I think now it's a couple of thousand, usually in the cities, particularly obnoxious ones,
but that was only after their Polish bodyguards were overcome.
And Kim Ilitsky couldn't control that if you wanted to.
And they learned nothing because even after that, the same practices continued, but at least with some kind of an independent Kosanak state.
And it shouldn't surprise you that the two countries that, you know, like Shabad, the, the Hasidic sect, what really was his root, came from right after what happened to the Jews after Kim Malinsky.
And where Hasidim came from, one of the results.
of it and this kind of messianism the two places that they that they loathe are
Russia and Ukraine the current the population agenda is right up their alley and
Shabbat and groups like this make no bones about it this is a perfect
arrangement for them because to this day you have Odessa Ukraine is still a major
center for for Jewish power maybe later on we could talk about the project of
new Khazaria, which I've dealt with in great detail, which this war has derailed.
But the expulsions, as you said, pretty much the exact, there's also sexual vices, stuff like
prostitution.
But these expulsion edicts were identical in almost every single case.
Yeah, it always seems to come down to the same thing, and it's usury.
And, you know, the people who, whether it's people who are Jewish or people who defend or jumped, jump to defend against anti-Semitism, quote unquote, they try to turn that into riches.
Oh, you know, you're just upset because Jewish people have more money than you.
It's like, first of all, I know a lot of people who have more money than me, and I'm not jealous of them.
It's maybe it's how they got their money.
Maybe it's the fact that they control the money, and maybe it's what they do with that money.
Maybe it's the social programs that they take these billions of dollars and push trends, you know, the Pritzker is pushing the transgender agenda down people's throats and everything else that they do, which is basically to,
de-rassinate people from their from their heritage and to make sure in my opinion make
sure that there's never like an all-white country again that has any power well that's
unfortunately that's that's politics 101 but a joe sober and used to say um you know it's
talking about politics without the jews it's like talking about um uh basketball
without mentioning the Chicago Bulls or Michael Jordan.
It doesn't make any sense.
And an analysis, whether it be the early modern period or today, of world politics
without mentioning the power of these financiers, going back generations, leads to absurd
results.
But since in academia, you can't really talk about it.
Absurd results are the norm.
To talk about Polish history without talking to Jewish history is impossible.
The Jews were the most powerful group there.
And I've heard all the excuses, all the special pleading, the jealousy argument and everything else.
And there's really not much you could say.
It's dishonesty.
They don't really know.
Very few people have access to a lot of this data, especially in an age of censorship.
We know what their arguments are, but they often don't know what our arguments are, which is an important fact.
You go to grad school, I know their arguments in depth.
But we're still a bit of a mystery to them.
But because it involves Jews, all of a sudden people's brains get turned off.
There's a short circuit there.
I'm not allowed to talk about this because they could hurt me in a lot of different ways in terms of employment and anything else.
The same situation in the early Soviet Union.
As Sultan Eastern does mention it, 200 years together, I know, as I know you know.
And this isn't a matter of this.
This is not a personal matter, as you hinted.
I mean, this is not because you hate.
I've had, you know, too many personal.
I'm from New Jersey.
I'm from Union County.
There are Jews everywhere.
Over New York City.
You know, that's where I lived.
And it's, you know, I went to the University of Hartford, which is one of the most Jewish universities in America.
You know, there's nothing, nothing new here.
But there are a handful of Jews who are willing to listen, but they're not many.
these attacks on jewelry whether intellectual or otherwise aren't personal they're institutional
it has to do with with everything that derives from from the talmud in the rabbinic system
and their contempt that they have for us which is so easy to prove the you know the sheer amount
of material i've collected on all of this every once in a while you get a you get a few jews who
will say like ginsberg and jews in the state which is an excellent book that this short-term
drive for power, whether it be through Ushri or, I mean, I think Uxri is just an aspect of rent-seeking,
rents are even more broad.
That short-termism ends up leading to long-term irrationality.
But I guess the Jewish mind is used to going from place to place.
And, you know, Israel being an exception, but Israel's situation is so tenuous right now,
which is where Crimea came in as a new Qazdia.
I'm not sure how long that that country has last.
demographically and otherwise.
You know, they're running out of people to move there.
Well, and they're so overrun by homosexuals.
I mean, there is no reproduction is bound to peter out.
I remember when Rabbi Weiss, Rabbi David Weiss,
who many people know, who's a personal friend of mine,
actually, the head of Natura Carter, which was a vehemently.
They were actually at the Holocaust Conference.
in Iran. What was that? 15, 20 years ago talking about the exploitation of this. The very fact
that they call it the Holocaust, as if this is a superior event, is arrogant. But he's, and so many,
some of the ascetics are vehemently anti-Israel, because it's essentially a secular,
essentially cabalistic movement. And Rabbi Weiss always said, in all of his speeches, he says,
Zionism requires Jews to have a predominant influence over their host countries' foreign policy, because Israel's not viable by itself and controlling and funneling information.
That's because Israel exists.
Now, there were other reasons for this in the past, but because Israel exists and they want to keep it going, they can't allow too much criticism.
I mean, the wars that this is dragging the U.S. and Britain into because of this unfailing
and the inability to see the connection between the two, there's unfailing support for Israel.
But that has to be shut down, which is what APEC is for and all the rest of it.
So, you know, Jews end up being this very powerful, media savvy, very politics savvy.
I mean, the homosexual movement is exclusively Jewish at its leadership level.
I have the whole list of them here.
It's pages and pages and pages, even down to the local level.
That was their pet project.
The Hasidics in Jerusalem don't like it, but that's because the Jewish mind in these cases is based on a double standard.
So I know exactly what you mean.
Eusory is the dominant profession of these people, but rent seeking in general being in a position of cultural or political power and charging fees,
even if they're only intellectual ones
because they have this
authority. This is part of the Jewish mind.
One of the things that people
hear about, and
it's why Israel has to have
their own homeland, is
these programs that have happened
over the centuries.
And the Komenesky
uprising, I mean,
I think on Wikipedia it says
they have as much as
35,000
but maybe can you just give some insight into like was it because he was thrown in jail
and it was a reaction or was this going to happen anyway?
In reference to Kimmelnitsky, the cauldron of increasing hatred given the economic
practices of the day, it just needed a leader.
It needed somebody who, yeah, I mean, it was personal for him, but it wasn't just personal.
he lost his land at the at the hands of one of these jewish guys who took who took a polish name and um you know that he finally put it together but not him it would have been someone and there were many other uprisings both before and after uh under similar circumstances it was immensely popular in fact i'll go so far as to say in my ukraine book i say this that kimalnitchki is the second most important person in ukrainian history after you know of course st vla
Vladimir of Kiev.
He is the hero.
And the people who control the colonial administration in Kiev now, of course, don't either
don't understand that or don't want to understand that.
And it's a Jewish government there anyway.
This depopulation agenda is very old.
And it was the case, you know, hundreds of years ago as it is as it is right now.
So it just was a matter of focusing, and especially, you know, one of the things that caused his revolutions are, is dashed expectations.
Because the king at the time, who died that very year, had promised a whole host of reforms, whether or not he could carry it out.
But whether it be John Sobieski or Vladislav or any of these other monarchs in Poland, they were always overruled.
by the Senate, which was run by these oligarchs in their Jewish account manager.
Kind of like, you know, Black Rock is that writ large today.
And they would shut this down.
So, you know, simple, simple requests, you know, like, you know, equal representation or freedom of religion in Ukraine, lessening of serfdom were thrown out the window.
when a monarch would promise this
and then the chm or the diet would overthrow it
and make it worse in fact
and you keep dashing expectations like this
you're going to build a pressure cooker
and when you have a talented leader like Bogdong Kimmugnski
you're going to get the results that you need
none of this had to happen but it was inevitable by 1648
well
maybe get into a little bit about this new Khazaria.
I think it was obvious to some people when this started and looking at what's been going on
since the Soviet Union fell that Jewish interests had their eyes on Ukraine.
And Ukraine being the quote-unquote breadbasket of Europe, it seems to be.
a better
it would be a better long-term
place to control
than Israel, Palestine.
Is that what your theory entails?
Is that they're looking to
have another
quote-unquote promise line?
Well, I think
many of your listeners understand already
that the Jews that
populate the present day Israel
in the Middle East are of usually
of Ukrainian or Russian
initial citizenship
and they came from
the Khazar Empire
was overthrown by
destroyed actually
by
Svelte Pulk in
the middle of the 960s
they had
there were Turkish people who had
converted to Judaism a few
centuries prior to that and were
in fact a Jewish empire
and they functioned in the same
way that Jews everywhere do
they charged tolls on the on the vulga they were heavily engaged in the in the slave trade they weren't particularly productive the military was usually mercenaries they were given carte blanche to do whatever they pleased and after uh keyev destroyed the destroyed the system the mentality of of kazadega didn't go away the overwhelming majority of europe's jews come from in one form or another um that empire
and you know the Khazar Empire is called Red Zion in many cases
there was plans to recolonize it as early as 1943
even with an agreement with Maltov and Malinkov and Beria
the Jewish anti-fascist committee was was engaged in this
and when you have the oligarchic movement starting in the 1990s in both Russia
and Ukraine, which was almost entirely Jewish, you had the makings of a very unique situation.
The Bidobizdan, which I also have written on substantially, experiment in southern Siberia didn't quite work out.
But rather than denying that they, you know, denying that they're, that they're Khazars, that they should embrace it.
And it's not something.
I think this war has derailed it in Odessa, which is the capital, Jewish capital of Ukraine.
New Kazadia, the idea arose.
And now you have the world's largest synagogue complex right there in Odessa.
And thereabouts, this huge system.
It's like one big yeshiva in the southern part of the country.
close to the Black Sea and prior to the war there was some out migration from Israel
with IDF support and into into that part of the world when Russia because of the referendum
in Crimea took it that was a huge blow to this movement of course now now the war the Jews
were always very sensitive Zionists that they had no religious or ethnic right to return
the lease because they're strangers there.
So
the war of course derailed all of this for now.
But
this group has a few
thousand who lease land
on a 99-year lease. Sometimes it was a
48-year lease
from local Cossacks in
rural areas and they bought the grain elevators
here.
I know back in 2006
it was 500 Jews arriving of
Estabropo from Israel.
And, of course, they quickly separated themselves from the native Slavs, and they called themselves new Khazadea.
And they built even the security fence like you had in Israel itself.
They had ex-Mosad, private security, that kept watch over it.
And in the Russian newspaper, Ere Vossi, it was actually 2002, did a story on the state within a state project that
novel
Alexandrovice
and Stavropo
migrants are busy
building an entire
they're not productive
they don't work to land
obviously but they own all the grain elevators
and this was
you know from the old collective farm system
the community is growing
rapidly and very few people know about it
they are subsidized but they're
essentially settlers
it's just an extension of the settler
idea
and this became this new form of the red Zion
they don't buy anything local
they don't employ anybody locally
and they're isolated but they are in a
strategic agricultural area
Stavropo is
what was you know then was the largest
scrannery in Russia 50 million tons of grain yearly
and of course they don't want the attention
but, you know, media blackout was only ruptured in Russia itself.
And it's one of the reasons that the Jewish president of Ukraine had to repeal the law
that you can't sell Ukrainian farmland foreigners.
And, you know, that was kind of ignored to begin with, but now it's official.
And apparently, up until the war began, it was 500 at a time, 500 is rarely showing up at a time.
As I mentioned, 2012, the Minora, Jewish Community Agricultural and Business Center opened up in the East, actually, as well as in Odessa.
So there's colonization happening, at least there was, and because of the Jewish nature of the oligarchic, and now, of course, the Jewish nature of the administration in Kia, media and everything else, is,
they're in a perfect position to do this
maybe not in Crimea but in parts of Ukraine
and that really is going to me and the war is over
as far as Kiev is concerned
I knew that from the beginning
you know that's
you know they never had a chance to begin with
except for immediate manipulation
and as Zelensky has stated
that we are going to build a state
very similar to Israel he said this
he said this
via webcam
to a rally in Tel Aviv
it's going to be a massive security state
essentially totalitarian
on the
model of the Zionist state
and as
they're closing churches by the hundreds there
they're clearly not messing around here
I don't know how well known his comments
about building new Israel
in Ukraine are building this security state
that really will serve the interests of capital
only. All the labor legislation has been repealed. You know, there's no minimum wage. They use the war as an
excuse, although this has been around a long time. That's just the beginning. But a lot of things
are going to depend on the outcome of the war, which is largely a theta complete for now,
but what kind of negotiated settlement there's going to be. And this is just the beginning.
do you have any evidence that one of the reasons why Putin would have invaded was to
was this was an attempt to stop that it would surprise me I have no doubt he's he's aware of it
and what that would mean for Russian security if anything it's a it would be a minor matter
but it's common knowledge and Russia just not common knowledge here
you're not dealing with a lot of people
many Jews reject the whole concept
just like they rejected the Birrubis done
Siberian concept many years ago
but at least it has the effect
of derailing it
in order for this to work you needed
Zelensky in office
or someone very much like him
since 2014
only Poroshenko has not
been Judaic
you know
since the revolution of 2014.
And even Israel's approach to this war, I mean, you know, Jews support Ukraine for a whole
bunch of reasons, that being won.
But the Israeli government is, and he's been, they've been attacked by Zelensky, have, you
know, taken a wait and see attitude.
I thought they'd be jumping on the bandwagon, but they, but they've not.
Whether there's a connection here or not, obviously this is a, this is a Jewish part of the
world, is a separate issue.
Of course, now Netanyahu has his, has his own.
problems and can't really worry about this too much, but whether or not, you know, the direct
reason for the, I know the precise reason for the invasion, of course, was to save Nova
Russia against the Ukrainian attack.
That's what the, you know, this was a preemptive invasion, but being able to strip mine
the industry of the East was certainly a goal after 2014 and they still have failed to do it.
And now that they're part of Russia, they will permanently fail to do it.
You know, Ukraine is in a viable state just with this central and western part.
They go kind of like Israel.
But whether the Jewish media is prepared to talk about this is another matter.
The Russians know about it.
Ukrainians know about it.
Turks know about it.
But it's almost totally unknown in the West.
Is this a Ukrainian, white, Orthodox Ukrainian genocide on their point?
part. Is that what their, is that one of their goals is to get people, get these people out
of the way? As I mentioned in the beginning, depopulation of their two most hated groups
of people, the Ukrainians and the Russians, the Russians, because they are the third Rome,
and Rome is condemned in the Talmud until, you know, they use code names for it. But the fact that
yet it is a genocide of the best of the Ukrainian orthodox population is not an act.
accident and it's one of the reasons that the war continues despite the fact that it has no chance of
winning throwing these boys who aren't trained very well against now rested regulars i mean russia's
using what 10% of its military potential here it's not just and of course the outmigration is
huge desertion is huge there's no question i mean they're closing churches all over the place
because every orthodox church there has some connection to russia
I guess, except the Kiev and Patriarchate, I suppose.
But that isn't all that large.
It's an ethnic cleansing.
It's a religious cleansing.
And, you know, the war is really the perfect pretext for.
You know, if the West wasn't supporting Ukraine to this fanatical level to the point where they don't have anything left,
the war would have been over in a month.
just like the Georgian War in 2008, but given intelligence and the electronics of NATO and the U.S., the war has been dragged out, especially in Russia always had very limited goals in mind.
It really had to do with Nova Russia and to defang the Kiev administration militarily.
You know, it's been dragged out, which means that every Ukrainian killed in this war after the first month and a half is killed unnecessarily.
and is killed for this very same agenda.
The Russians haven't had many casualties
are minimizing civilian casualties,
especially since they're Russians, where they're fighting,
and all voted to become a part of Russia.
But, you know, the Ukrainians don't have that level of,
don't have that scruple because the whole reason
for them wanting to take Eastern Ukraine is to eliminate it
and re-colonize it, which, of course, would be very difficult to do.
They'd have a Northern Ireland on their hands
if they didn't do that.
But as an after effect that makes Jews happy, the two most hated groups of people fighting each other is this is almost a utopia for them.
Yeah, a friend of mine who was American military intelligence and also in propaganda units said that Russia as their military and what they're doing now, even using mercenaries, they've become like a perfect meat grinder.
to eliminate the Ukrainian population.
They just keep sending them in, and they just keep killing them.
And Russia will take losses, but he said, in his opinion,
it will be Ukraine whose losses are going to be devastating
to the point where anybody who would be allowed to go in there
and investigate would be able to see that it was,
I mean, this is just basically what he called the Meat Grinder Genocide.
Well, that's not his opinion. That's just a fact. You have to be an idiot to deny that. Russia's losses have been fairly low. This is an artillery in a drone war, but an air war is for Russia's concerned. They've avoided, you know, Ukrainians have set up shop in the cities, knowing full well that Russia won't attack them there. But now everything has broken down. Their command and control is broken down. They have very little ammunition. They have no fuel. It's been the case for a very long time.
The private military companies from Russia are taking the bulk of the losses, Wagner and a handful of others, but in Russia's rotating troops here, so they're always going to be fresh and trained and everything else.
Ukraine can't leave this meat grinder, as you meant, and that's actually the term they used for, to throw men who they know are going to be killed, to send equipment that they know is going to be vaporized, there has to be an expectation.
explanation for that. Obviously, it doesn't make any sense financially, militarily, or any other way. And I'm definitely willing to argue that that's the reason, that to depopulate these areas. Remember, one of the most anti-Jewish countries in the world up until recently was Ukraine. You know, our kind of talk, Holocaust, everything, that's, that's day-to-day discussion there. And the same thing goes for Russia. The Orthodoxy, the ritual murder of Tsar Nicholas II shows, is a
the enemy. Rome is the enemy. Kiev used to call itself the New Jerusalem in the Middle Ages. Russia, of course, is Moscow is the third Rome. This is, and it's extremely upsetting because Ukraine, up until the war started, had the best educated population in the world. The highest percentage of citizens with advanced degrees are there and heavily towards the sciences, everything from electronics to chemistry.
extremely well-educated population.
They could have been one of the dominant economic powers in Europe
if they went with the Russian deal rather than the EU deal.
There is nothing left.
Ukraine doesn't have an economy.
And that's been the case for a very long time.
So the tragedy here exists at numerous levels.
And if anything, it shows the evil of the current regime,
the current ruling class globally.
It's this.
who is that that idiot
Lindsay Graham
that piece of garbage said something like
at this stage
in the war this is just about killing as many Russians as possible
and yeah he's he's stupid
you know he's a figurehead
he's a half whit I think maybe he's a little
mentally challenged
he's very devious though
he kind of let the cat out of the bag
that's exactly what this is about
and they're good either way
you know, Ukrainian military created by the U.S. is a gollum, no different than the American military is, or the Polish military was many centuries ago.
You know, the gollum idea is extremely important.
So, yeah, it's extremely depressing because it's had 2014 not happened, really 2004 hadn't happened.
And Kiev went its natural route towards the Eurasian Economic Union.
You would have a powerhouse country.
you can mean the Soviet Union was a powerhouse
there wasn't just the
the agricultural center it was
what was the biggest electronic center
of the Soviet Union
and the
the rape of the country in the 90s
from the oligarchy now the rape today
from the oligarchy for the very
for this mindless
you know blatant military
defeat
it's
oh it reminds me of like
In 1943, when both Japan and Germany and a little bit afterwards had sued for peace and was told to go to hell, because they were only going to be satisfied with the total annihilation of these powers.
The war could have been over much sooner.
The Germans had feelers out all over the place, as did the Japanese.
Of course, it wasn't popular in Japan, but it was definitely an option.
They sent out feelers what we can resolve.
And, of course, they said no.
they had to incinerate the countries before they were able to deal with whatever's left.
So this isn't anything new here.
And everybody wants to get bogged down into the conversation of whether Putin is a good guy
or whether all these things that really have nothing to do with it.
And no one wants to talk about the, you know, why this is happening, why this pit place in particular.
and, you know, was this the, you know, how long is this plan been going on?
It's just, it really is frustrating for anybody who, I mean, this is, your whole life has been
about this section of the world.
I've only been looking at this section of the world for 10 years and I'm utterly frustrated
and I can just imagine where you're at this point.
Oh, yeah, I can't really watch any mainstream media discussion.
because I cringe to the point where I could have a stroke.
You know, these city and town names that these people haven't never heard of until very recently.
Now they're talking about it's their, it's their day to day, their day to day life.
All the lies of 2022 about, you know, the Russian defeat and all that, you know, they're still maintaining it despite the fact that even NATO says this is this is an absolute disaster.
lying about casualties
you know casualties
from the sources I have
both in Ukraine and Russia
Ukrainian dead are about 650,000
they were you know
admitting 250,000
in November of last year
and it's gotten much worse
since then this is why the casualty
figures are a state secret
they may never release them
and you know
because how long are these boys going to continue to go
how long is the high
command, they continue to send them to certain death. I mean, how many purges in the officer
corps has occurred at least one or two, at least two, I should say, since February of, of
22? Zolensky is well aware that he is despised, if for no other reason than this, the shutting
down of political parties, all media that was even vaguely pro-Russian churches, eliminating all labor
right, deliminating all, you know, God, it's going to be another 10 years.
It's going to be 75 now where you have to get any kind of pension with a worthless currency, no less.
And they wondered why Crimea wants to be a part of Rowe.
The East wants to be a part of Russia.
No one wants to be a part of this sinking ship.
But again, it's short-termism.
They stripped every bit of asset they had to pay the debts going back to the 90s, to remain a part of the Western
system and of course the industry was located in the east which is not under Kiev's control
so what do they have left the only thing of value that they had until fairly recently was
the land which is why in my work I'm doing on this topic of changing the land laws and bringing
the GMO Western corporations to buy the black earth areas up is very important but that's a
finite resource so that means the ultimate value that Ukraine
can use to pay its ridiculous debt to the western bankers is blood that's all it has it's it's
finally useful the west doesn't need anything ukraine makes the east may but but not the west
what does ukraine give that the west can't do itself um this is it it's existence because of this
you know it's a colonial government there they have no independence they haven't had a long time um
Zelensky was installed by the U.S., that's the last, the only thing, the only use that Ukraine has to the regime is being this golem against the Russian Federation.
Now that there's no more assets to sell or to privatize, the blood of its boys and justice boys and men are on the chopping block, and that's all they have.
Well, I told you I'd keep it at an hour, and I hope that if you enjoyed the questions and
the conversation, you'll come back in the future and we'll talk about other subjects that
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i appreciate it dr johnson thank you very much i had a good time you could contact me any
time. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show, returning, and I'm really happy to have
him here, especially at this time. Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson. How are you doing today, Dr. Johnson?
You know, I'm happy to be here, too. You're very good at what you do, and you know how to handle guys
like me in terms of questioning and responses. So I always look forward to this. I'm glad you
contacted me again. I'm doing okay. I'm doing all right.
Right. Good. I appreciate that. And let me, sometimes interviews, it's, you can just store softballs out there, underhand pitches. First thing I wanted to do was I wanted to get your take on the current, the current goings on in Palestine.
Well, I've been a student of nationalism, my entire adult life. Usually what happens in my personal life is when I go away somewhere, there's usually a massive,
um political event back even back to 1990 when the gulf war started um i was on a cruise somewhere
my parents um my honeymoon was when the russia war started the first day we leave to go down south
um this war starts this has been going on almost every time um so i was just wondering at which
which event's going to occur this time and I wasn't disappointed.
Don't forget, the Israelis just spent quite a bit of time over the summer leveling much of the West Bank.
And I know that there's a theory out there, which I'm willing to be wrong on because it's so early,
but that Israel was well aware of this, knew about it, and almost encouraged it, and they list a whole bunch of reasons.
And I think it's a bit too early to jump to that conclusion because I think if this really was planned, it was an idiotic.
It's an idiotic plan.
It's true that Israel would occasionally lean to Hamas, just like they used to lean to Iran, for the sake of dividing their opponents, although even that failed.
As of right the second, I'm of the opinion that whatever temporary use Hamas may have had.
had in challenging the Palestinian authority,
Israel was really caught in a security breach in this case.
And there's actually very good reasons to believe that.
But even if, you know, there's money that's been funneled to them, that's true, although it was from Qatar.
And Netanyahu has made statements that suggest, you know, some years ago that Hamas was something that was useful.
That's a far cry.
from saying, A, that it was the creation of Israel, like ISIS was.
And, you know, the way that ISIS and Hamas operator are two completely different things.
ISIS is most certainly a Western creation.
Hamas is constantly a thorn in Israel's side, largely because it's so well off.
It doesn't need Israeli money.
It doesn't need Israeli support.
So I've been irritated.
And right now, even like Paul Craig Roberts is talking about this,
only in the most tentative, tentative way.
I have a few issues with the general theory, and then the main one is that it takes away any agency or competence from Hamas.
These people have been fighting the Israelis every single day for now decades and decades.
It's like they've learned nothing.
You know, they can't figure out that there's an Israeli side to this.
They can't figure out the weaknesses in Israeli security.
You know, they're like prisoners in a federal penitentiary.
All they do all day long is look for weaknesses in the guards.
And that's exactly what happened here.
You know, even though Hamas is occasionally useful for Israel, there's no way.
Nottingahu thought this was going to unify the country.
It didn't.
There is no way he thought that he's going to use this to take Gaza, which he won't.
And some of the arguments, at least so far, are very weak.
I'm the first one to look at all the anomalies in this, like a 9-11, the Arrow Air flight, the story, which I broke, 1285, the U.S.S. Liberty for the 80s.
And, you know, the arguments are right now still tentative.
My God, Hamas is so advanced that they even have their own rocket factory.
And it's really tough for Israel to do much about it because they're often in popular.
areas and since when does Israel need an invasion to level an occupied territory last time all
they needed was a few rockets now they needed an invasion I think the Israeli casualties are now
2,500 or something like that military they're admitting there's something like 500 right now
there's no way Israel can occupy the Gaza Strip there's no place for these people to go it would be
10 times worth the Northern Ireland was for the for the for the brinket
British, but the divisions among Palestinians are normal.
It's like in the Jewish case.
And the comments that Netanyahu made would automatically imply that in any kind of invasion,
they would blame him, which is exactly what they're doing.
Right now, 80% of Israelis believe that Netanyahu is incompetent, if not behind it, then
certainly did nothing to stop it.
So if his real goal was to unify the country and all the rest, guaranteeing that he's
guarantee American assistance. Well, there was guaranteed
to that anyway. He was really bad
at it. The truth is that
you know, Amos is not to his street
thugs. Their main mission
is to take all
the social services.
They are the main, if not the only
social services provider in
Gaza Strip. They're very
literate. They're educated.
They're sophisticated. They're very
well funded. They have many
economic interests all over the
the Arab world.
but you know they have these two missions feed the population of Gaza and probe for weaknesses
in Israeli defenses and the assumption that they needed Israeli assistance or that they
deliberately stood down is I don't I don't think it's true but they have no capacity to act
independently but I do believe that this would have if you're going to attack somebody
you attack them when they're out their weakest
and this the Israeli society is now so divided
over the summer it became mainstream
to criticize Israel
so what do they do they bomb a Ghazan hospital
it doesn't it doesn't make any sense
they don't need an invasion to justify anything
they don't really need anything to justify anything
um
yeah I think Israel has assassinated
seven major leaders just over the last five years
of Hamas
ISIS of course is more obvious
because they will never attack an American or an Israeli outpost of any kinds.
They only attack enemies of the U.S.
But Amaz is constantly harassing the settler population.
The level of violence in Israel over the last year and a half, roughly, has skyrocketed.
One of the reasons that the Israeli forces were away from that part of the fence was over the Sukkut,
celebration in the Yitzar region, the northern West Bank, settler violence is out of control.
So the local military authorities with the approval of Netanyahu ordered two of the three army
battalions that are guarding that part of the fence to go north to protect the Sukkot Festival
that's going on up there. Essentially, it's a settler festival. And there's been, I think,
over the last couple of years, something like 2,500 acts of violence from the settlers around there.
But even at the best of times, the Israeli security services are stretched razor thin.
You know, the invasion couldn't have come in a worse time.
And this doesn't benefit the prime minister.
The Hamas has proven themselves just like Hezbollah did as very competent soldiers.
But, you know, Israel didn't require an invasion to justify leveling God.
They haven't over the last 20 years.
All they need is a couple of rockets or even do it themselves.
Now, Israel didn't consider that everyone's going to know, or it really is the case that he allowed this.
Everyone's going to know that.
He's made public statements years ago that Hamas was a great counterweight to the Palestinian Authority.
Even though they've come to an agreement over the last 15 years, they're not constant opponents.
Hamas isn't this rejectionist
group like Hezbollah is
So
For all those reasons
And the fact that this can go so badly wrong
Hezbollah has now mobilized
A lot of the Arab states
Who have been financing Hamas for a long time
Are turning on Israel
Just as their economic empire was going to grow
And
I just at the mom
moment, and I could be wrong about this, but at the moment, I have no good reason to believe
that Israel permitted this to happen. After the leveling of the West Bank, that parting
at where Janine is, Hamas was simply engaging in a preemptive attack to keep that from
happening to them. I have a friend right now who's in Lebanon, and he reported last week that
the IDF was actually firing upon the Lebanese armed forces,
which they've never, as far as he told me,
and as far as I know, they've never fired upon them before.
It's always Hezbollah.
So what would be, what is the purpose of this,
where it seems they have to worry about Hezbollah at this time,
but it seems like they're picking a fight to go even further.
I forget the American general who said Hezbollah had superior infantry to the IDF.
Hezbollah defeated the South Lebanon Army.
I think that was roughly around 2000.
It was the biggest defeat that Israel ever had to deal with.
And Hezbollah was able to establish themselves as a ginormous party in Lebanon.
It's difficult to tell so early why Israel,
you know they can't count on American backing they know that American military supplies
material is at critical critically low levels you certainly can't depend on a zombie like
Joe Biden and certainly that idiot defense secretary especially given what's happened in
Israel over the last I'd say roughly two years then Yahoo has painted himself into a corner
he's an extremely weak position and now you have pretty much almost everybody except a handful of republicans criticizing Israel over Netanyahu's judicial reforms which I dealt with a while ago you know because of this Netanyahu is not in a position to dictate events I don't think any of this ultimately is in his interest unless he has some secret assurance that the U.S. is going to do so.
something about it. The Turks are extremely upset over this. He forced all allies to become
enemies overnight. Does he think that this is going to be one apocalyptic war? I'm not ready
to make that statement yet, especially given his position. And given the death toll so far, I think
Netanyahu's political career is over. Something that we talked about before we started
recording was just how much of Protestant Christianity in this country just supports anything Israel does, just no matter how horrific at this point. And I don't want to turn this into a Protestant bashing. But I know you've been on vacation. I don't know if you've been able to look at social media. But it seems like this time, more than any other, the huge proponents of Israel, I mean, the
cheerleaders, the Zionists, the Ben Shapiro's of the world, they are desperate and their voices
are almost desperate in this while this is happening. And it seems like the pushback that they're
getting where you're just seeing so many more people who are so much much more confident in saying,
no, we're not going to fight these Jewish wars anymore. If you're talking about how Netanyahu is not
getting the support he needs is, is the American public starting to catch on and say,
no, this isn't our problem?
Well, the left, which is the same thing as the regime in the West, but maybe earlier this year,
had a severe problem.
On the one hand, they're terrified to criticize Jews, but on the other hand, given that
Yahoo's policy and his reforms that, you know, destroyed his international standing,
he promoted all of these fringe extreme Zionist parties to positions of prominence.
That's how the Lakud maintains its, it's very, very thin, knescent majority.
So that means he's imposing what we would call right-wing, although from a Jewish point of view,
religious policies all over the country and the dam broke i noticed it early last summer
where you had left this from all over the place condemning netanyahu primarily because
i mean he tried to nullify what you know it's not quite that simple but nullifying the separation
of powers and he's trying to keep himself out of prison because he's looking at a serious trial
concerning the Israeli media of all things.
So all of a sudden, it became very mainstream to criticize Israel.
Now, let me give you one example here.
I think you probably know about this, but Marco Rubio, who is a piece of garbage of the first magnitude,
I want to quote him directly.
He was asked by Jake Tapper, you know, who's an idiot.
He thinks that, you know, he's asking.
him is there a way to destroy Hamats without creating millions of casualties there's 2 million people live there 2.5 million people and a million of them are children so rubio said this yeah i don't think there's any way Israel can be expected to coexist or find some diplomatic off ramp with these savages i mean these people as you've been reporting and others have seen that deliberately targeted teenage girls women children the elderly horrifying things i don't think we know the full extent of it yet i mean there's more to come the days and
weeks ahead. You can't exist. They have to be eradicated. Now, we expect that kind of stuff
from idiots like him, but that's how far away. And of course, a lot of what he said was
nonsense. There's a few people at a kibbutz that claim that the IDF was shooting them,
that they were fairly well treated by Hamas when they came over the border. So, but whether
whether or not, you know, this separates coming out and saying what the Zionists, we're saying 70 years ago, that these aren't human, and saying this in public, saying this on CNN, well, we all know that people like Rubio and that idiot governor of Florida, who now wants to ban any anti-Israel social media post, you know, this, this is not going to be acceptable and thinking that he could say this openly, because he gets, you know, he's reliant on Jewish money.
Given the context over the last six, nine months, it's an absolute disaster.
And don't, you know, don't fall into the error that these guys, whether it be Hamas, Hezbollah, are just these thugs who don't know anything.
They're first-rate soldiers.
The U.S. military admitted that as far as Hezbollah was concerned when they defeated the South Lebanon Army, among many other things.
This is a sophisticated operation.
they're extremely motivated
now the Israelis are a different story
I don't know if they're so happy about supporting
Netanyahu the career soldiers versus
the reservists who are totally untrained by the way
and now having to go all over the place protecting settlers
from Arab violence
you know again it's put not just
Netanyahu but Israel and Zionism
in a terrible position if this is something
that Rubio's going to yell at Jake Tapper.
It definitely seems like there is a message out there of you're either 100% on the side of Israel
and any kind of, if you have taken any half measures, if you equivocate it at all and you, you know, like when people
bring up World War II and the Germans, if you start talking about Holodomor, they start losing their
minds. It really seems like at this point, they're going so far over the top with if you are not
100% on board with Israel, you are an anti-Semite. You want to see another Holocaust. And they're
comparing this. They're saying this is like they're 9-11 and they're doing things like using per capita
of numbers, oh, if you take the amount of people who were killed them the first day and you compare
it to the population, it's way worse than 9-11.
The desperation, I think, is very clear.
Well, when Israel used white phosphorus in the Gaza Strip from 2004, 2008, 2014, all the wars I'm
forgetting about over there, it turned the place into an open air.
gas chamber. You know, if you've seen
pictures of burns from white phosphorus.
Now, international law doesn't mean anything to me or to anybody,
but that is chemical warfare if it's
used against civilian populations,
which is exactly what they do.
Now, when the settlers started killing kids,
now they've been doing that for a long time, but recently,
it's gone through the roof just over
the last five years.
Let's make sure everybody understands that when you say
settlers you're talking about Israelis.
Well, yeah, yeah, settler with a capital S.
I'm talking about the most militant Jews who go into Arab territory and set up, you know,
they don't work, they don't do anything, set up a camp, which automatically means that
the Israeli military has to surround it to protect them from millions of Arabs, which is a
terrible job.
And because they're so militant, I mean, they're simply stealing land.
They usually move into Palestinian homes that they've thrown out.
They are the most militant.
And they've been an embarrassment for Israel except for now.
Because these parties that are allied with Netanyahu, they're all settler party.
That is the most obnoxious.
But when they kill kids, nothing was ever done about it because the chief rabbi.
I don't remember if it was the Ashkenazi or the Sephardic one said, look, the Talmud.
says that we all know these kids are going to grow up to be enemies and they even cited a
passage saying you can kill kids if you're certain that that's that's the case um and that
you know that became mainstream for a while i can't believe people are talking about the talmud
who never heard about it before uh because of that of that they mean it's really hard you're
they're pushing to the point where and of course yeah the black and white thinking that's been
their issue for a long time uh the
entire country is based on mythology and lies and and terrorism and the talmud is the perfect
set of books if you want to if you want to justify this kind of thing now people will say that
this war is a nanyahu's interest because um they rally around the flag but that didn't happen
people are blaming him people are people are hate him now more than ever and these war crimes
in gods are just like the west bank a few months ago
are so blatant in public, nothing here benefits him.
I mean, he couldn't have considered how badly this can go.
He knows exactly how advanced Hamas is.
This is not something that he can easily handle,
especially in the fall of 2023.
Israel's tearing apart at the seams as of a few months ago.
None of this benefited him.
And he had to have known that at some level.
I just think Hamas said Israel is in serious trouble.
The U.S. is, you know, bankrupt, of course, but doesn't have the military equipment like they used to.
Stocks are so low.
And given what's happened in the West Bank, maybe this is a time.
They're very popular in the West Bank.
They win every election.
I'm sorry, the Gaza Strip.
They completely rendered Fatah irrelevant, even though now they're semi-allies or they were before the war.
stockpiling weapons or either from the sea or from Egypt they've been doing that for so many years
they're experienced guerrilla fighters and all this nonsense the minute they start using rhetoric like that
9-11 with us or against us you know Holocaust nonsense you know that they have a very bad case
and you're starting to see Protestants all over the place converting at least to some variant
of a non-Zion, not an anti-Zionist, but a non-Zionist point of view because of the acts of Netanyahu in numerous areas.
When you mention that settlers are killing kids, what somebody is going to come back and say is that
somebody from the Palestinians, someone from Hamas is up there, they're throwing rocks, they're doing things.
And then when the Israelis fight back, they hold up kids in front of them.
Basically, the whole Hamas uses children and civilians as human shields.
Can you address that?
I don't think these people realize what's happening here.
The campaign against the West Bank over the summer, and certainly the Gaza Strip,
you have millions and millions of people living in a very tiny area.
human shields are just a part of the
part of the job
there's nothing you could do about it
it's not like there's tons of empty space
these guys operate
I mean this is exactly what
the Ukrainians were doing in the early years
or early months of the war
in 2022 that's why they took up
positions in the cities
but that also implies
that groups like this have no problem
with murdering their own kids
and in the past
even if that's happened, I mean, the Israelis have done it too.
The Israelis, and even in the Goldstone report, Israelis were using Palestinian children to keep, to draw Palestinian fire away from them.
And so this is a certain level of projection, but it implies that these people are, you know, willing to kill their own kids.
And it's not, to the extent, it ever was used.
It's not particularly successful, and it makes them look terrible.
And winning over hearts and minds has been a central, at least both Hamas in the one hand and Hezbollah and the other, not so much the PA, but the U.S. financed the Palestinian Authority for a while, especially in the media realm.
You know, it implies that the American media, which is almost completely Jewish, is reporting these things accurately.
the Israelis have killed thousands and thousands of children over the years
to think that they would just have no problem sacrificing more is nonsense
that would destroy the political foundation of these groups
and you know Hamas levies taxes you know they have strong institutions all over the
Gaza Strip they need and they're considered the most non-corrupt organization
in the you know in the occupied territories which is why they
They won the election in 2006 and maintained control and became very popular.
I think the Israelis see Hamas as an asset only in the sense that because they handle all the social services, they keep a lid on the anger.
The rage is always going to be there, but the anger that will come from starvation because turning off the water and turning off the electricity, that's pretty normal.
Israel does that all the time.
They don't need an invasion to do that.
But there you have, especially with white phosphorus, a war on children.
And settlers, again, these aren't countries.
In fact, I'm not entirely sure what the administrations and the West Bank or the Gaza Strip are.
They're ruling entities of some kind or another.
Israel, on the other hand, is a well-off country.
however with you know just a few million people um everybody is being mobilized today so you
automatically have asymmetric warfare you know people talk like you know Israel Hamas is like
two countries fighting each other no it has it's more like the U.S. Army attacking a Starbucks
far more than than two countries there's no countries there the institutions are rudimentary
and require popularity so the human shields
nonsense. That goes back to the Iraq war and all the propaganda, beheading babies, all that
stuff. The World War I propaganda is still being used today, knowing for well that people are
stupid enough to buy it. Some will say, and a lot of people have been saying that why should we
be worried about water and electricity being shut off? These Palestinians, these people in Gaza,
they're terrorists
they're all
they exist to do
is to kill Jews
and they basically
are
in line with
the worst Wahhabists on the planet
and that
is I've seen
Christians
evangelical Christians
saying that that is
the excuse that's needed
to just turn it into
glass and that these people they're they're not people are saying that they're not human so if
they're not human you know we know people who have been deemed not human before and then you can
do anything you want with them people that's done by many sides in history especially in the
20th century these all these people are terrorists there as soon as they're born all they're
taught to do is to hate Jews and to want to kill Jews. So why would we, why would we let them
live? So are they, are they asking me to defend their humanity? I mean, I don't think that
these people believe that they're human. So I guess the question I would ask you is,
Are these people brought up to hate Jews to become terrorists and to, you know, basically be a net negative on that area and the world in general?
Because right now, the West is most, a lot of people, especially on the right and on the hard right, are most concerned that these people are going to end up having to be evacuated and they're going to end up in Western countries.
and we are just going to see an increase of what we've seen in England and Sweden, Germany, France, places like that.
Well, that's an entirely separate issue.
The IDF, you know, what you're saying, and I know exactly what you're talking about, and who these people are,
but that's been the official IDF, the official Zionist point of view, for decades.
There's nothing new about that.
And the Lakud was based on the Urgun, one morphed into the other.
That's been their militant point of view for a very long time.
And certainly their policies reflected.
The use of the word terrorists, of course, is something that wasn't used nearly as much decades ago.
It has an emotional punch to it, but it doesn't really mean a whole lot.
they don't have to be brought up to hate Jews they just do they're living in a refugee camp
for generations with very little in terms of a functional economy constant blockades by the
Israeli those people see everything from the Israeli point of view and sometimes don't realize
just how absurd that is they also don't realize that these areas contain maybe
5% Christians. And certainly they do in Jerusalem. Orthodoxy O'Marionite. They just think that
they're just one big mass. And that's what comes down to dehumanization. It's like how the regime
destroyed American farming by calling them rednecks and hicks. Complete utter dehumanization.
And it makes it easier to control them. Same thing. The Soviets did that to the peasants
rebelling against them. That they're savages. That they're never going to.
going to be reconciled and therefore they have to they have to go but a materialist can get away
with that and on top of it all to think that there's any ethnic or religious connection between
the group of you know Poles and Russian Turks who moved to Israel starting in the 1920s or
you know Palestine as far as 1920s and the Israelites of old is is laughable you know they talk about
our people as if, you know, how inbred they would be if, if this is the same group of people
over time, they're not that many of them. These have, these people have no right either
theologically or ethnically to be there. It's two totally different groups of people.
You know, all the empires are the societies that adopted Judaism long after, long after Christ,
not just Qasaria. But again, that's also going too far afield. It's really a tough one to
answer because you're not really used to deciding whether or not someone's human. That's really hard to, that's really hard to quantify. But the easiest way to talk about it is everything here is seen from the Israeli point of view. And you notice it's only where the Jews are concerned that these issues are justified. It's not justified anywhere else. You know, it's like you could slaughter Germans after World War II on Mars. But because it was in the service of Judaism, it's okay. Anywhere else.
That would be a huge problem.
So you're talking about the special pleading
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Something you mentioned there, if you can expand upon that a little bit, is what I grew up hearing was what's going on over there has been, is 5,000 years old, has a
roots in 5,000 years and no one's ever going to solve it and when you step in and say
really it's less than a hundred years old people look at you like you're crazy so is this an
ancient blood feud I think you've already answered that or is it something that is just basically
you came here and pushed us off our land and yeah and like as I've been saying
saying lately, I mean, they pushed them off the land, they pushed them off the land and then they
let them stay there, which seems to me that you're, you keep your hostages right there and they're
always going to hate you. And to me, that lends credence to the theory that the reason they keep
them there is because if they have somebody right next to them that's hating them and
always attacking them, they can keep up with this victim consciousness that they've
built before World War II, but definitely since and has gripped the West since World
War II.
I can't fathom the level of ignorance someone has to have in order to make an argument
like that. It just requires almost a knowing blocking out of just mountains of information.
Because of the nature of censorship, whether it be on the Jewish issue or anything else,
Normies only get a very small percentage of the actual data available for any question.
So much is blocked out.
Entire points of view are blocked out.
And as you probably know, the EU, I know a few governments in Denmark and I think Germany are
banning any references to Hamas except as as savages, which has become the norm now.
But to think that these are the same, I mean, Islam didn't show up until the, you know, until centuries after Christ.
So I don't know how that fits into it.
I've written extensively on the connections between Jewry and Islam in its formative years, even when Muhammad was still alive.
He was heavily influenced by Jews in his area.
There's such a mixed area where he's from.
But very few people know who the Khazars were.
I think at this point, I've had to defend that thesis a few times.
Arthur Kessler, among many, many, many others,
the explosion of the Jewish population in starting a really turn of the first millennium
comes from the conversion of the Caucasus peoples in the Khazar Empire to Talmud.
of Judaism as a way to differentiate themselves from the Orthodox in the one hand and the
Muslims on the other and it was very much a trading slave-dealing merchant economy that was
finally smashed by the Kievan state not too long before the turn of the first millennium
that's the group of people that flooded Europe they don't speak Hebrew they speak Yidders
which is an amyglam of Turkish and several other, you know, German, some Slavic words in there.
You know, when the Israeli settlers first started to come to mandated Palestine in the 1920s and afterwards, they had no conception of Hebrew.
They had to relearn it.
Everyone who goes there has to relearn it.
It was a dead language by that point.
Everything about this is completely artificial.
So the Talmud, as I think many of your listeners know, is the total negation of the Old Testament.
It's a pagan, idolatrous sect, but the connection between what we call Jews and the rabbis who are Talmudists, even in the Middle Ages, when someone was referred to as a Jew, it was automatically a Talmudist, non-Talmud of Jews, like the Samarans, whatever, care rights, were not included in that.
and it's because of the mythanthropic ideas found in the Talmud that and of course as I already mentioned it's being used to justify the killing of children the hedges around the law the legalese that that Jews were able to accomplish in justifying policies that could be tolerated nowhere else derived from that Talmudic mentality it's a huge set of books and it is the core of Judaism and I
I've been through tons of it many, many, many times, but it is the core constitution of the IDF.
And so they have no problem engaging in everything that Americans think that the Muslims do.
And that's how we know that this is a totally different group of people here.
They have no roots in the area.
Now, up until recently, there was the New Khazaria movement, which is supposed to be in eastern Ukraine.
course, that's over now. You had hundreds of settlers from Israel going to Ukraine. The very
largest synagogue complex in the world is in eastern Ukraine. This was going to be the core,
a brand new civilization because Israel was just unworkable. And the IDF paid for a lot of this stuff.
A lot of the Jewish oligarchs in Ukraine created this. They even call themselves Kagan's.
the former title of the Khazar Empire, leader of the Khazar Empire.
But now the war has destroyed that in Russia.
So now they have to double down on the Israeli thing, which is why Jews were so obsessed
with the defeat of Russia in the war.
Although Israel was iffy, one way or the other, given the nature of the Kiev government.
Jews despise both sides, in other words.
so these are the people who showed up in the 1920s they're not the same people as the israelites not
theologically or ethnically and previously you had mentioned you said the term ergon
and something that i've been talking a little bit about lately is the fact that
israel the people in israel right now the leadership they decry terrorism they
you know call it the how could you possibly target civilians and I think that maybe there's a topic
we can talk about in the future and just touch on right now but I think most people don't realize
that a lot of terrorism and targeting of innocence was carried out by radical Zionist groups
and irgun was one of them.
In other words, the foundation of the Zionist state was terrorism.
That's absolutely true because Britain still had its empire after World War II, briefly.
It had many investments in Arab areas.
And after the war, the Zionist movement, which is very wealthy, started to pour into mandatory Palestine.
controlled by the British post-Ottoman Empire.
And it caused riots.
It caused extreme violence.
They came here very arrogant.
They, you know, created their own little economic world and committed violent acts constantly.
The British were in a terrible position because, you know, they didn't want to alienate all the Arabs.
They didn't want to alienate their own Arab population.
and their influence over the economy.
They didn't want to piss off the oil-producing areas.
And a handful of Jews with really nothing really for them to live on except subsidies was a disaster to them.
But that's where the terrorism against the British came from.
Terrorism against the Arabs was day-to-day.
Terrorism against the British, this is an empire that just bled itself in defeating Hitler.
And that isn't sufficient because they didn't move quickly enough in subsidizing their new state in the Middle East after the white paper of 1939 saying that it's probably not, given there so many Arabs.
But as the Jews continued to pour into the area, they formed organizations.
The Haganah was the main one.
And that was a more mainstream one.
But breaking off was the Ergun and the Lehi.
Lehi actually was talking about an alliance with Germany for a long time concerning the transfer agreement.
But Ergun was much larger.
And let's say in 1945, the height was 1946, you had a tremendous campaign of terror against the British.
this just it just never never ended and it culminated in the explosion at the
King David Hotel in July 22nd of 46 and you know it's not only the killing of people
but they destroyed the infrastructure there the Jewish militants had you know the
night of the bridges the night of the the the night of the the the the
the night of the airports, night of the trains, and all of this was the destruction of those
institutions that existed probably from the British and mandatory Palestine.
So they were going to render it impossible to live there, knowing full well that they could be
subsidized from abroad.
There was no lack of money.
You know, the Rothschild family really bought much of that land to begin with and financed it.
The Jewish agency, which was the main Zionist organization, wasn't happy.
with any of this. But even, you know, people like Yusak Shamir, who was Prime Minister of Israel
in the 90s, was a part of the, part of the year good. And the King David Hotel, you killed
roughly 100 people, civilians. That was the document center of mandatory Palestine. And there was
no warning given, although they claimed that. And it really, it drove the Jewish
agency or the sinus agency insane it was a terrible thing and people even know what happened
but they justify it they had this plaque a few years ago back when samir was still alive
that said um for reasons only unknown or only known to themselves britain refused to heed any
warnings that we're going to blow this place up um which is of course absurd if there were such
a warning it would have been removed this was a center of of british government in the area
but this became the most famous
but they were doing this
anywhere they could
they killed hundreds
of British soldiers
and God knows how many
Palestinian Arab
Arab civilians
and their cause
of course was establishing a state
there pure
purely Jewish
ethnically racially pure
and attacking the British
because they weren't too keen
on just Jews pouring into the area
because as they well knew
that would make it ungovernable.
And they had to deal with millions of Arabs and, you know, a few thousand Jews.
But that was perfectly acceptable to the initial crop of Jewish settlers from the 40s to the establishment of Israel in 1948.
So, yes, it was founded on terrorism.
It was founded on genocide.
Israel is the first state that you can claim was based on the, of,
obsession with ethnic and ritual purity at the expense of everyone else in the area and certainly
at the expense of the U.S.
Yeah, the old ditty about a land without a land without a people for a people without a land.
That's a good piece of propaganda that you will still see non-Jews defending them with.
Well, to this day, Jews are divided.
A lot of the old orthodox are anti-Zionists because they claim that only in messianic times is Zionism possible.
Now, they differ on whether that's the case now or not.
But especially as the war against the British continued in the mid to late 40s in Palestine,
You know, the issue was just so overwhelming that it didn't make any difference.
Terrorism was the central conception.
They don't call themselves that, although the Ergoon actually did call themselves a terrorist
organization because in the mid-40s, it didn't have the connotation it does today, they
deliberately targeted civilian areas, not just British soldiers.
but at the time of the war in Palestine
probably still a minority of Jews believed in Zionism
that changed a bit later
you're always going to have that hardcore
essentially the ascetics in Jerusalem
who absolutely despise the Zionist entity despite being on welfare from them
so maybe 30% of Jews were very interested in Zionism at the time
the U.S. was run by Jews, very privileged from the beginning
Although the oil companies were iffy about it for very obvious reasons, people like James Forrestall really counseled against the partition plan, which would have created Israel as an ethnic unit, which, by the way, you know, in and of itself, I have no difficulty with.
Of course, what I have difficulty, I mean, I'm anti-Zionist and only in the sense, not that they don't have a right to self-determination.
every ethnic group has that
the racial group has that
it has more to do
with the lifeline to the United States
that countries that didn't have to be enemies
became enemy
because of the arrogance of
the Zionists in the area
you know you simply plot a group of foreigners
in an area populated by millions of Palestinians
and expect nothing to happen
no they were quite willing and able
they were armed they were armed in Europe
and they were armed in the Mideast
and terrorism, violence was at the core of Zionism still is.
You mentioned James Forrestal there
and his death is rather suspicious.
Well, he was one of the last holdouts
in my paper on the Soviet support of Zionism.
I talk about the threats that were made against him,
And it wasn't, you know, Felix Frankfuruk and Morgenthau were the three people that were pressuring the U.S. government.
And they had connections with the Rothschild.
They had connections with the Zionist movement.
And they threatened Forrestall.
Actually, it was Baruch, who said, if you don't, actually, it was February 3rd, 1948.
Baru confronted him because
Forrestal said we can't alienate all these people
the people who were invested heavily in
yeah of course the West controlled all the oil wells
but they could still be burnt
he said you know America is going to be
perpetually at war with the Arab states
if the U.S. supported Jewish interests without any
reservation which of course
Zionism is based on
whether or not it could function without the U.S. is a different story
so forestall went to the secretary of state
marshal and said let's bring this straight to harry truman
and the state department at the time said that the plan for dividing
Palestine is impossible that would require
genocide
but forestall was identified
by the various jewish organizations as the main hindrance
to the u.s. backing of zionism
despite the lavish soviet support especially diplomat
of the Zionist movement in 1948, the Soviet Union was in no position to finance the
Israelis. They had lost everything in World War II thanks to Stalin. German invasion
was preemptive. But on the third, Bernard Baruch confronted him and said, if you didn't
shut up, and the quote is, your own interests will be now under threat. That's a direct quote
from forestall himself and it frightened him to such an extent that he refused to talk about it again
still didn't save him though um he knew and said the scientists were on a mass murder spree in the
mid-east with no real repercussions but those who support that are going to pay the price decades on
and he was absolutely right yeah what one of the things after 9-11 when terrorism really became an
issue for Americans and they started looking into people started asking the causes of it and from a
from a purely research point of view it seems like terrorism happens and especially like
suicide bombings happen in occupied lands when when a land belongs to somebody and then a foreign
entity occupies it and that's not that's not what has
happened. That's not why Irgun and Lehigh were, they weren't terrorist organizations responding
to an occupation. They were terrorist organizations. They were the aggressors. They were doing
this so that they could achieve their goals of moving people out and taking over. It was
basically the complete opposite of a lot of what, uh, the kind of terrorism that we've seen.
since then.
Well, you know, there's an argument to be made.
The Twin Towers were they had many police agencies, insurance companies who underwrote
military equipment.
CIA, FBI had offices there.
This was the economic core.
I think, I don't think these handful of Saudis had anything to do, anything to do with it.
I think much of their claims are impossible.
But what happened on that day is a drop in the ocean.
compared to what's been going on, the Arab population in the Middle East since really the 30s, let alone 1948.
In order to create an ethically pure Israel, everyone else had to be pushed out.
And that generation is probably all gone now, but they were quite proud of the slaughter of Arabs.
So you had to start off with the idea that we are the aristocratic people, we're the only people with a soul, which is a Talmudic idea about themselves.
and everyone else is just mud
which is the exact word used
you know the famous
gullium or cattle
that's what they are
they're occasionally useful
but they're not on our level
you have to start off with that mentality
to
I mean no one was talking about
the so-called Holocaust at the time
that rarely came
a persecution did
but in general that that didn't come up
it was this this conception
of you know
this generalized persecution
in the one hand, and this belief that they had and some racial and even metaphysical right
to be there, regardless of their totally foreign nature compared with the Israelites.
So that's how you have to think in order to do this.
Your point you make is a really good one.
One of the reasons that Stalin was a scientist, called themselves a scientist, and supported
the Zionist cause, is that it was special pleading for the USSR, who, by the way, suffered
far more than the Jews did.
Everyone suffered.
Belarus lost half its population.
And it certainly could be applied, so-called persecution, to what Stalin did his entire
career.
And it served Soviet diplomatic interests well because it allowed them to take any attention
away from their own crimes, which is part of why the Soviets created the Nuremberg trial.
And so the initial mythology for the creation of the Zionist entity comes from Stalin's Middle East Department and his version of the State Department, especially Andrei Grimico, who made the main speech, the UN supporting partition.
They, Soviets didn't care.
Even Goldemeyer was quoted later saying Soviets didn't care about the Arabs.
The Soviets were going on about how Jews are naturally socialist, the heart of the socialist movement.
And therefore, we're going to support them wherever they go.
The reason that they couldn't support mass immigration from, say, Soviet Union or, you know, Poland, whatever, is that government offices, we collapse.
These were so top-heavy with Jews, both in the USSR under Stalin as well as in Eastern Europe, that if they just allowed unlimited immigration in Israel, they would have no country left.
so many the leading offices would be would be abandoned only romania permitted some immigration
and israel so they that's why ultimately the the soviets were cooled on the idea is that you
you know we could support zionism but we can't um allow our our best people to leave you know
there was nothing russian about the ussr just like there was nothing polish about the the the
people's republic of poland after the war um so that's that's that's that's the problem
There's no doubt that Stalin, who was the first to recognize Israel, even when the arms embargo was imposed on the, you know, in 1948, Soviets continued to send weaponry, usually through Czechoslovakia.
They had no problem doing that.
And even people like James Forrestle were aware.
An arms embargo is just going to mean that only the Jews get weapons, which is part of why that came into existence in the first place.
you mentioned that Stalin said that he believed the Jews were naturally socialist and I mean
when you look at the the Bolshevik party even in books written by like Slezkin you see the
overrepresentation there there's maybe you could address the the trope that we hear now that one of
the reasons why you have to support Israel is because they're the only quote unquote democracy
in the region. Is Israel the only democracy in the region? Has Israel ever been in democracy?
Well, it's a state based on race and ethnicity, which in and of itself, I mean, democracy is not
used as a synonym of representation. Representation, a representative government and democracy
are two completely separate things.
In fact, they're at war with each other.
Part of the reason why so many liberals and leftists around the world came down so hard
in that Yahoo, when he tried to ban, you know, impose a much older law on the people of Israel
who are generally liberals was that he, and then when he allowed himself to be able to veto
Supreme Court decisions, among many other things, that argument fell apart.
It is a common argument of them.
Well, Lebanon was had a multi-party system.
Turkey had a multi-party system.
Syria does, contrary to mythology.
Iran does.
You have to be a Muslim.
But there's many parties in there.
There's more parties in Syria than there are in the U.S.
Certainly more parties in Lebanon than there are in the U.S.
With their proportional representation system.
Because of Netanyahu's complete destruction of the separation of powers,
which is why so many, even soldiers, were refusing to follow orders, including today, that argument, which is so, you know, faculties to be laughable, facile, they can't make it anymore.
It used to be their big stupid comment that there's two major parties, therefore it's free.
And yet it's a highly regimented state because it's unnatural.
It's what Lev Gulenov called a chimera.
It's foreign people based in a foreign land and a foreign ideology that has no connection to the region.
The entire thing is doomed to fail.
And when I say that, you know, we know the Soviet, the Bolivic movement was at its upper levels, almost exclusively Jewish.
The American ambassador to Russia during the war said that.
The British ambassador said that.
you had so many, you know, listing there were 375 people in the main institutions when they moved to Moscow, about 300, 325, that 375 were Jews, almost always from the upper classes, upper class merchant families, that many of them changed their name.
and the Bavarian People's Republic, which is one of the things that provoked the National Socials Revolution, as well as the Hungarian.
The People's Republic were exclusively Jewish.
And I have a paper out in the Hungarian situation.
Stalin got nervous.
How come every single one of you is Jewish?
Go find somebody and make him president, which had no power at the time.
And it took the months to finally find a non-Jewish guy.
I can't think of his name.
starts with an S. They made him president and then promptly forgot about him. This was under the rule of Bella Kuhn, which is just a Hungarian version of Cohen. It was exclusively Jewish. This is why Hitler said what he said. The Bavarian people's Republic, it was just, it was pieces of Germany who were being, you know, Judaized. In fact, even Winston Churchill said that. It's not, you know, at the time, it was, it was, it was a Jewish movement. And I mentioned that primarily because,
people claim that Stalin was
anti-Jewish which is a load of nonsense
I have paper after paper on that
any anti-Jewish statement
in the Soviet Union was punishable by
at least a 10-year Gulag sentence
but American scholars like to talk about this
because it relieves them from having to explain
why the entire almost the entire
Bolshek movement in the 20s was non-Russian
Stalin did persecute the old Bolsheviks
That's true
But there were mostly Jews
It wasn't a targeting of the Jews
But if you were a Bolshevik in the 20s
And hence an old Bolshevik by Stalin's era
You were most likely Jewish
Well they can't admit that
So they have to create the mythology
That Stalin didn't like Jews
Despite the fact
That he and his
And his Foreign Affairs Department
saw the Jews as the core of socialism
and they weren't necessarily even talking about
the foundation of the Soviet Union.
They were talking about the kibbutzim.
They were talking about just the natural
of course with an ethnic solidarity
so it's special pleading there
that it seems to be an already socialist
even Ilya Aaronberg.
This is the infamous film director
called for the genocide of Germans after World War II
and the essay
regarding one letter and he said he said we're sympathetic to the struggle being waged by the
Israeli workers at the same time every Soviet citizen understands the problem Israel faces cannot
be reduced to the national character of the state the social structure matters as well
Aaronberg expressed support for Israel on behalf of Soviet Jews with one reservation and that
reservation was it has to be a people's democratic republic independent of the West and
for somehow devoid of Zionist ideology,
which would put race ahead of anything else.
Now, I'm not sure how Israel can exist without Zionism.
But the Soviets were willing to alienate millions upon millions of Arabs
because they burnt down the Lebanese Communist Party headquarters once the Soviets made their speech.
but because the stereotype was that they're nothing but they're mired and futile superstition
they could never be pro-Soviet and they wouldn't mind getting rid of the British from the Arab areas anyway
now that changed later on of course and the Soviets became anti-Israel only because they were
you know this was this was a an American base now the Soviets and the Americans traded freely
throughout the so-called Cold War.
There weren't the enemies
that people have been led to believe.
But in 1950,
the Israelis backed the U.S. in the Korean War,
and that drove Stalin crazy.
And so Zionism became a big problem.
And they couldn't support it,
as I've mentioned.
They'd lose some of their best people
would be emigrating to that state.
Of course, the U.S. just was in a better position
to support Israel than the Soviet Union was.
They couldn't support itself.
at the time, not without American assistance.
But I think we're in an age where, no matter how powerful Jews are, you can't produce
the military equipment quickly enough after the Ukrainian debacle where there's almost
nothing left and then suddenly, you know, make it appear.
And I think most of you know that the weaponry meant for Ukraine on the black market has
found its way all throughout the world, especially the third world, and Hamas is using something.
Also, they claim it may well be true because the black market arms sales has exploded since
February of last year. But that's where we are right now. And that's why the new Khazaria idea
exploded starting in the 90s, but at least as far as the war is going on in Ukraine can't come
to fruition.
people often say that the reason Israel needs to be there is because they're the only
stabilizing force in the region before Israel got there was it a warring region was it a
warring region was it a region that was that something was brewing there that could
possibly have destroyed the West or, you know, I mean, it just, it seemed, when I hear things like
that, all I hear is propaganda, all I hear is Hasborough, that, oh, that the, the whole region was
this insanely unstable region, and then all of a sudden, these Jews go there, restart up
old Israel, and now they're the only thing that stabilizes it.
Yeah, again, that would require, I know you're not saying that, but that would require another just massive amount of ignorance that I can't picture.
It's like trying to picture the universe.
You just can't do it.
The instability, well, first of all, at the time, there were very few independent Arab states.
This was a colonial realm, if not from the Ottomans, then later the British and the French.
The Sykes-Pico Treaty, I forget the year, divided it between the British and their friends,
had their lines of demarcation, so they wouldn't butt heads.
The French were no more excited about Zionism than the British were, at least in the 1940s.
And still, I guess there's still a reluctant partner in this.
They were against the Iraq War and all the rest of it.
The instability became endemic, not just a decolonization.
but also because of Israeli policies.
And if anything, the one thing that unifies them all is their general support for some version of the anti-Zionist cause,
but because there's so much money coming in and out of that country that it's really hard for some governments to resist it.
And after the, you know, 1967 in the wars in the 70s, Egypt has figured they were going to make peace.
Syria never did.
Saudi Arabia is now so alienated from the whole thing.
They're not going to do it.
And in fact, the new leadership there is going to allow themselves with the Iranians.
Iran is considered now the last standard bearer of the militant response to Israel.
The attacks on places like Sudan, Libya, Iraq, going way back and Syria, it isn't so much that they are going to create.
nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons. It's that they were switching over to nuclear
power, which are two totally different things. All of those governments, including actually
Lebanon, that Israeli and American interference destroyed were all on the cusp of first world
status. Now, Iran's been a first world country for a long time now with a far healthier
economy than the U.S., which is insane a whole lot. But that was Israel's concern is to keep
everyone poor. That has a lot to do with their policies in the West Bank. Nuclear power
was proof that these were becoming first world countries. They had a huge scientific
establishment. So they invented the myth that somehow you could just make nuclear weapons out
of the material used to generate nuclear power, which is false. It's too totally different.
They're related, of course, but they're two totally different plants, totally different systems.
and keeping everyone around it impoverished is critical.
And that explains the U.S. intervention.
That explains Israeli policies in the area.
And now, of course, because of the U.S., every place but Iraq has been reduced now back to third world status again.
Iran remains more or less alone in this respect, which is why the venom against Iran is going to grow and grow and grow.
But now the U.S. is facing war on what three fronts, at least, the Far East, Iran via Azerbaijan, which is why the U.S. so interested in the Azerbaijan war, and of course in Russia.
The U.S. doesn't have the resources for one of these, let alone three of them.
The U.S. is so broken and decrepit and bankrupt in all senses of that term that it simply doesn't exist.
is the American, is a regime such that they're willing to destroy themselves for the sake of Jewish domination and Jewish power?
That's the question.
I think there's some of the neocons who are, but that's only a very extreme point of view.
The U.S. was willing to give so much weaponry to the Ukrainians, which is destroyed immediately, to the point where their stocks hardly exist anymore, making them vulnerable.
they're willing to go that far
all of a sudden you're talking
about nuclear weapons
where's all the anti-war movements
all the anti-nook movements
that dominated places like Germany in the
80s all of a sudden they've
disappeared
the anti-war movement doesn't really exist
like it did for Vietnam
but it's a very different kind of enemy then
since 1990 the enemies
have been essentially
generally speaking right-wing
governments well that's a very different story
than fighting the communists
that the American ruling class was heavily
invested in cooperative with.
So, because the country was founded on genocide, it has to continue to function.
And that automatically includes, function on genocide, that automatically forces the U.S., especially
Britain, to be perpetually at war with the Arab and, of course, the Iranians aren't Arabs.
These Islamic states, and it's destroyed American interests in the area, all for the sake of the Jews.
going to go so far as to destroy themselves for it, I'm not going to answer that.
Well, we could keep going on this, but we'll save it for a future date.
Remind everybody where they can find your work and we'll end this.
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And I want to welcome back once again,
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Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson.
How are you doing, Dr. Johnson?
A little tired, but I really appreciate you.
having me on again. No problem. This is the episode I wanted to record with you last time,
but then everything broke out in Palestine. So we talked about that. But as we were talking about
before we started recording, I consider Vladimir Putin and probably Bashar al-Assad to be
the two most interesting and probably powerful when it comes to their positions within their
countries and how they rule their countries in the world. And I know that there's no better
person to talk to about doing a deep dive on Mr. Putin. So what can you tell us about Mr.
Putin? Well, 10 years ago, I published Russian populace, the political thought of Vladimir Putin
and the Barns Review books, I'll publish that. And it's sold very well. And it's because
Putin doesn't deal a lot with abstract ideology.
This is the only political theory book on Putin in existence, at least in English.
And I go through it thematically.
Putin is probably, if not the most popular, one of the most popular politicians in the world.
He helped rescue Russia from the 1990s, where it had gone from an industrial power to a third world.
to a third world country, losing population, all at the hands of the U.S. to the seventh
largest economy in the world. Very diverse, very complex. Keep in mind that the energy
sector, depending on how you define it, makes up about 9% of the GDP. So this is a competitive
state-directed, although not state-owned or state-run, which is a competitive state-run, which
extremely important. In fact, Putin's doctoral dissertation concerned that topic in economics
on the mining industry, which I've read a long time ago. The state has a strong role
to play. He was baptized secretly as a young man and has been orthodox ever since. But it's
hard to deal with Putin without understanding the context. In the
the 1990s, about 80% of the old Soviet economy was liquidated, and while the nominal president
was Boris Yeltsin, people like Yuri Guidar and Anatoly Tobias, both Jews, both connected
closely with the United States, especially Harvard University, were making policy. So by 1993,
Yeltsin had roughly a 10% popularity rating. And because of that, he declared.
Clair and Marshall Law, the decree on the special order governing the state, and all opposition
parties were silenced, and the U.S. found this a victory for democracy.
His opposition, the so-called popular resistance, I've talked about the coup of 1991,
or the attempt at a coup, and one of the big problems is, at the time, they didn't have a unified
ideology. Now, the Communist Party could count on maybe a third of the vote, but keep in mind
that the agenda was never to return to the Soviet system, but a reassertion of the state
system with an iteration framework. And bizarrely enough, the 1993 referendum with less than 10%
in popularity, he got something like 60% of the vote.
clearly it was it was fraud and USAID actually admitted them so by the mid to late 90s
Yeltsin knew that if his government fell he's he's going to prison and in 93 Yelton
shredded the constitution and the Supreme Court dethroned him putting Wuchkoi in his
plate and that and that
The fact that Putin intelligently, throughout this period of time, vaguely supported the opposition
to the coup.
He was able to preserve his political career.
Ultimately, in that confrontation between the legislature and Yeltsin, you had about 1,500 deaths.
No one was ever brought to justice.
Yelton controls state media at the time.
He was sending them false information,
telling them that they're going to be fired on unless they shoot first,
all of that.
And as this is going on,
you have the total collapse of the Russian economy.
You had no functional central state apparatus.
Warlords had taken over the regions.
Of course, Chechnya was,
was going on
and I wrote a paper
Vladimir Putin's war against the oligarchs
Vladimir Zerunovsky political ideas
and Yeltsin's legacy
and they had
Zirnozki his real last name
as Edelstein
is this very false
opposition
but
Yeltsin's people
pardon those who were part of the emergency
so-called coup
a 95
Yeltsin got about 10% of the vote
so
his big fear at the time
was exposure
even though he was
an advanced alcoholic
they hardly had a functional
budget tax collection had
had collapsed
so with
5% popularity
in the mid 90s
somehow
he got 54% of the vote.
So you're talking about extreme bankruptcy, non-functional economy, and so much of it bought up by Western investors, or simply liquidated in the money sent a Swiss bank accounts or Israel.
The oligarchs, as you well know, at the time, were overwhelmingly Jewish, both in Russia and in Ukraine.
Ukraine even more so, and once Putin cracked down on them, so many Jews then talking, you know, by 2000, 2001 had fled to Israel.
There's not that many Jews left in Russia anymore.
Cost of living went up 3,000 percent in this period of time.
Alcoholism went through the roof, and strangely enough, vodka was subsidized by the Yeltsin group, making it artificially cheaper.
4 million Russians were homeless
The best and the brightest
This went to the West
And when you compare
Say Hitler's invasion
Destroyed about 40% of the Russian economy
This was almost 80%
In the few years in the 1990s
Under American IMF direction
They lost about a million trained scientists
In all fields
To the Western world
they pilfered all the scientific
conventions and the patents that they had in Russia
I mean Boeing in 99
had 600 former Soviet scientists at its disposal
so that's the context
not to mention the lost war
at the time now they won the war
eventually but the whole military chain of command
in Chechnya collapsed
and that was a big part of the problem
so Putin realized and of course every Russian in the world
realized that something needed to be done
they were going to carve up the country
they were going to completely colonize it
and force it to be nothing but a raw materials
provider in third world poverty
so Putin taking over
he was actually appointed
because Putin didn't support the
the national Bolshevik coup
just a few years earlier
he was able to work in the mayor's office
in St. Petersburg
and then once Anthony Sobchak
lost the election there
he went to Russia and went to Moscow
and he didn't talk much about ideology
he was in security services
and that's where his friends came from
in other words they didn't need
the billionaires to finance them
and because of that he had a decent political career
although he wasn't much of a you know no one really knew who he was and he wasn't
particularly political so right away now you know I want to make something very clear
2002 2003 I was the only guy to say that Putin is one of us to a great extent
at the time everyone the right wing was condemning him as a at the cage
agent and all that stuff.
I was the one I wrote the very first
article for the bond interview on that
score. I convinced
Michael Collins Piper and Willis Cardo
who I worked for at the time
of all
of this. And then they
went on and convinced
everyone else. And that's how
Putin became more or less
popular
in parts of the nationalist movement.
But the context
is absolutely
absolutely everything.
So
now the agenda.
This has a lot to do
with the Russian populist book
I wrote. It sold
very well. I'm very proud of that book.
I think it's the best book I ever did.
Taking the agenda and then extrapolating what
ideology
it served.
Everyone in the security service
was
National Bolshevik
and Eurasian.
Communist Party
operated on a semi-nationalist
and Eurasianist platform,
which I think they had always been.
Many Russians at the time didn't connect
Bolshevism with Marxism.
Many considered Bolshevism,
almost the kind of national socialism.
So Putin's agenda
was very simple.
First and foremost, the state had to
be rebuilt it had to be centralized it had to be put almost on an emergency footing and staffed
by Putin's people and that by itself you know the economy uh resurrected once the state made
sure that nothing was going to happen to your your investment unifying the country well that wasn't
all that tough at the time you're talking about people who had been driven into dire poverty
with a Jewish oligarchic
that ruled over them
and the more
of those guys he put in prison the more popular
he became
had he just shot them
he would have been even more popular
these people were hated
and liberalism
in the U.S. in the public mind
was associated with this
and you know this was an emergency
situation
the army and the security services
were reformed
the international monetary fund was kicked out of the country
and he built relations with the East and the South.
Putin won the war in Chechnya,
made sure that a pro-Russian but still Islamic man
was elected president, a former rebel.
Putin stopped the flow of American guns and drugs into Russia from Afghanistan.
and he watched while the U.S. was defeated in Iraq, later on, of course, and now driven out of the country and completely defeated in Afghanistan.
Now, you mentioned something when we first started about American politicians wishing they had the legitimacy, wishing they had the popularity and the effectiveness of Vladimir Putin.
And a kind of minor thesis of my book is that this is a form of projection.
I'm deadly serious about this.
When I say that because they're insults, you know, at the time, you know, Bush, Obama, McCain, you know, Schumer was so perfectly applicable to the U.S.
that it has to be
projection
every few months
the financial times would predict
the collapse of the
Russian economy
even though we're living in a collapsing
collapsing economy right now
military opposition
or civil war is inevitable
when of course they're dealing with a
broken military apparatus
but throughout all of this
His popularity never went below 70%.
Got to mind, I mean, at the time, the average Russian salary was $100 a year,
even though they had a lower standard of cost of living.
They used to, there were periods of time where government workers were paid in kind.
Total lack of any kind of credit, market networks, any kind of infrastructure at all anymore.
so what remained about that maybe 20% was controlled by a tiny handful of elites
and Putin threw them in prison partially because they were actually selling off chunks
of Russia to places like Boeing and Exxon Mobil and this is I'm still talking about 2002
2003 so on foreign policy he's won at all at all
fronts the American media is the only group that tries to say otherwise he did a
brilliant move both in Georgia and in Syria and of course the war in Ukraine has
been artificially extended due to American support and and work within the so-called
Ukrainian side and continues to prop up a man probably less popular than Yelson the
Jewish actor who's running the place now. So that, in brief, is the context of how Putin
functioned in one. You mentioned his doctoral thesis and economics. What else is there in
his background that prepared him for this? It's, you hear, every once in all you hear about
this great man coming forward and taking over and changing. And actually,
making change.
It tends, in the 20th century, it tends to have pretty much the same path with the same
people fighting against him.
But what in his past specifically would give him the, not only the ability, but just the
gumption to do this?
Well, it wasn't as if he was, you know, a general in the army and he took over in a coup.
Putin was extremely methodical, both in his KGB career.
You know, Marx was seen, or Bolshevism was seen as a national Bolshevism at the time, especially in security services.
And he had the foresight to reject the coup from the emergency committee and to get to work, because he was very well trained.
He spoke German without an accent, a bunch of other languages.
and he started off at a relatively minor position in the St. Petersburg bureaucracy.
He learned political economy from experience from the ground up.
So by the time Yeltsin had appointed him, New Year's Eve, 99, 2000, he knew the inner workings of the country, the army, what the problems were, and the basic foundation, the ideology that he was going to have to.
layout to unify the country
and while it's general
and I have some criticisms about it
whatever Putin's ideology is
it's worked
so learning from the ground up
you know a minor bureaucrat in St. Petersburg
slowly
moving up the latter
is what made him so methodical
so intelligent and so strategic
now I must say
that he wanted power at the time, and I think it was a bit of a surprise to him, but because
he was from the security services, that training isolated him from the oligarchs, and he knew
how to function as an agent, and self-defense instructor, he developed the confidence to pull this
off politically.
You mentioned the Chechen problem.
now I've read read up on this I remember when it was happening was there let me just ask the question straight were Western forces you know what we call global American Empire now were they importing Wahhabism and extreme elements into Chechnya to infiltrate?
so that they could have so the kind of violence that could happen that was happening that ended up
happening could happen yeah I have a couple of fairly lengthy articles on the Chechnya situation
like everything else the American press coverage was laughable pretty much the same kind of
sloganeering as I do in in Ukraine Georgia was done so quickly they really couldn't couldn't do that
In the Georgian case, you had Israeli citizens running the military, the defense secretary was, for example.
But, yes, especially the second Chechen war.
And, you know, yes, the Wahhabis from Saudi Arabia and Sudan, they were not popular.
And, you know, so they brought in, you know, the anti-alcohol stuff.
Yeah, they were Islamic.
Iran refused to support them.
But because they grew up in the Soviet Union, it weren't really that strict.
It was so bizarre to bring these extremists coming from Saudi Arabia and elsewhere.
And this is also the reason why Putin made, again, a very popular measure of banning foreign sources of funding for a political group, especially candidates in Russia.
So it's an extremely interesting story.
The former Soviet Air Force general, Zokar Dudyev, proclaimed the independence of the Chechen Republic.
He seized the Soviet weaponry.
And this was mostly a civil war.
And Dutyev was just as unpopular as Yelton was.
Of course, they didn't.
Russians didn't lose the war.
But the second Chechen war was the imposition of Sharia law.
and it actually came not just from Saudi Arabia but also from Sudan and just copied that
legislation and imposed it on Chechnya once the duty of was killed that just created a vacuum
where more severe foreign-funded Islamic militants could take over and they suffered ginormous casualties
the second war was a clear victory for the Russians and
whatever the Chechens had very quickly fell apart, they used terror tactics, they'd have
American advisors, they used poison gas, and really the only popular person was Meskadov, who was
pro-Russian, moderately pro-Russian, and ultimately you had no solidarity, the Islamic movement.
Everyone knew this was foreign, and had no connection to the kind of the secular political
Islam that Chechens
tended to accept
so the second war
you know about 4,000 Russians
were killed along with 15,000
Chechen militants and plenty of foreign fighters
but by 2009
the remaining cells
were cleaned up
and since then
really was April of
of that year
that victory was proclaimed
and the pro-Russian factions in Chechen politics
wins elections very easy
it makes sense as to why
and Russian investment
from the center into that part of the world
has been pretty substantial
so yeah foreign fighters
foreign ideology foreign money
foreign weapons
so just like in Ukraine
that conflict too
was artificially extended by the West.
Now, the first one,
the military chain of command had collapsed.
Yelton had purged it so badly
that you had utter chaos at the top
and no real functional state.
And you had al-Qaeda guys there.
But even with all that,
the American support for it
was absolutely unflinching.
And because Aslan Muscatto
was a moderate,
pro-Russian, Islamic
with great limit,
he won the election
right after the victory.
And that's what led to the withdrawal
Russian troops from the area.
And he was elected with a comfortable margin,
but you had many Islamic parties
competing. No one has ever said
that it wasn't fair or anything else.
So, yes, to answer your question, yes.
And it's clearly not the embarrassment
that the American
media made it out to be.
Well, no one can be a popular leader unless the economy is not even booming, just that
it's functioning properly.
What did he do or what did he get out of the way in order for the Russian economy to
come back after the 1990s, which was thought awful?
well i i gave you the first step and that's to resurrect the state on the basis not of i mean
there were always elections but no one trusted them that's why i mentioned all the poll numbers
for yeltsin and then how that translated into votes doesn't make any sense um in taking over the
districts in the regions putting his own men in there with the approval of the local legislature
which was condemned in the West, despite Yelton trying to do the same thing, created a far more rational structure.
Importantly, the export duty on petroleum products was repealed.
You know, and against all free market ideology, it allowed the free flow of oil to
to Western Europe.
The U.S. doesn't get very much from it.
The auto industry grew massively.
These are targeted investments, and you had consumer confidence had returned.
Massive increase in the social programs as the poor were being eliminated.
You know, under Yelts and pensions were below the poverty line,
25%
now of course
there
arise up a few years ago
it's more than 50%
above this line
and it's increasing
you know
just one example
I talked about this at the time
um
Michael Kutakovsky
who was the head
of the Israeli head of the
Ucos oil concern
he was going to sell
those fields which are monstrous
to Exxon
mobile
and that's why he was arrested
he was arrested on his way
to sign the documents
you've seen those videos
of Putin marching into a board
meeting
that's not all public
relations
one of the reasons that Western politicians
hate Putin is because Putin is very independent
the state is more powerful than any
concentration of capital
he ended up nationalizing the Ucos
firm. Actually, I was writing his dissertation on the so-called national champions. This was state
directed but not dictated investment. And these areas, again, like the auto industry. And then he
abolished the law. The law was, this is in 2004, the production sharing agreement. And he signed years
earlier that put natural resources under quote unquote international jurisdiction. That means de facto
though, not de Jure, BP and Exxon had tremendous control over not just oil, but natural resources.
And this increased his popularity.
Russian oil was not benefiting Russians at all.
It went to Shell, BP, the typical groups of people.
And by saying that Russian resources belong to Russia, he was automatically marked for debt.
So right afterwards, the Russian national budget went.
up by 300 to 400% very quickly.
You know, he was, he was the leader of the national revolution by this point.
Between 92 and 95, for example, what functioned as a state was essentially at the mercy of the
IMF and foreign advisors.
All legislation in the 1990s, including the tax laws, were written under foreign grant.
About 10,000 foreign advisors were working in Russian ministries and department, especially economic centers.
And all of this, you know, massive increases of revenue, increasing stability.
People were actually listening to the laws.
And one of the central things is, you know, of course, I forgot about the flat tax.
and by lowering taxes, people who had refused to file before now were filing.
And it didn't take long for Russians to realize that you can't get away with anything anymore.
Russia was completely taken out of debt.
State directed investment was focused on the elimination of poverty.
You had massive increases in incomes.
And even, you know, in the midst of the 2007-2008 crisis in the West, Russia increased pensions and other benefits by a huge margin.
Gold reserves, everything else.
And this means that life expectancy went up.
It was under 50 at one point.
In 2010, the birth rate was at least 50% higher than it had been in the past.
And that's really just the beginning.
economic indicator, inflation was brought under control. The ruble was properly functioning.
He had very close control of the central bank, and since sanctions was able to essentially
nationalize it, and that's how he's making these deals with the Chinese central bank,
which is totally under the state. And the impressive thing is that Putin had very little to
build from all of these taxes all this written by foreigners to benefit themselves and yet all
he had to do is centralized tax collection and the war in Chechnya and rebuild the regions
that the economy went off on its own nationalizing many industries this is this is where the
sanctions came from the plan was to divide Russia make it a third world country supporting
American manufacturers, the Western economy.
And by doing the exact opposite of the free market, he resurrected the economy in a way that
very few people can claim and in a relatively short period of time.
Just like everything else, this was slow and methodical, and the reforms were in place
about 2005, as well as the explosion of pensions, of personal incomes, consumer confidence,
exports and imports
and Russia
paid off its debt early
which
outraged the IMF
and again that's just the beginning
of what's happening here
and it turned Russia from
almost at the door of the fourth world like Ukraine is now
to again
the penny in how you count it the sixth or seventh
most advanced
and complex economy
who are the largest in the world.
So it's a little bigger than Britain,
roughly about Canada.
So again, that's just the beginning.
But, you know, Russia was able to collect
a mass of trade surplus,
where it was the opposite before,
that allowed Russia to weather any crisis.
And, you know, real simple, you know, the flat tax was
13%. All taxes were eliminated for homes, home improvement, any investment of a cultural
nature, subsidized loans for small businesses and farmsteads, and everyone knew at the time
that the carnival that the oligarchs had put in power in the 90s couldn't possibly last.
Extremely strict anti-corruption measures. All government workers have to divulge their assets
and any liability before they take office to prevent any conflict of interest.
No civil serving can have accounts in foreign banks, especially security services,
and any business dealings while an office is forbidden.
Can you imagine that being imposed anywhere else?
And that's because the state was stronger than any combination of privately owned capital in the country.
And I think kicking the IMF out and totally reversing the flow of trust,
trade that benefited Russia.
These gold reserves, currency reserves, are so ginormous.
They could weather any storm.
By the time sanctions were imposed, Russia had already rebuilt its infrastructure concerning
China, Mongolia, India, Iran was a huge trading partner, and that's where the Shanghai
cooperation organization came from, and the Eurasian Economic Union, especially in Central
Asia, Kazakhstan.
This was slowly unified.
Now, of course, China's Belt and Road initiative.
And that plus the Georgian victory, the Chechen victory,
brought his popularity to be through the roof.
And ideologically, I would call him a Eurasian because like so many people in the East,
no one trusts the West for anything.
There is no economy that you could predict.
positively. In any west of the debt, it's too high, the industrialization, especially now, is
extraordinary, and you already have chunks of Europe reverting to third world status.
Belarus and Russia are exceptions to this, and it's all because of these centralizing policies.
Well, you already talked about the Chechen wars, the Georgian wars, you start seeing the push-back
against him. I guess one of the first things that I saw where accusations were being leveled was,
and I mean, this is something that any enemy, anybody who stands up to the global American Empire
gets hit with is that any opposition that he has within the country, he takes care of,
that he has eliminated up to an including citizens. So what's the truth behind that?
Well, this has been actually a few years ago, a substantial preoccupation in my case.
Right off the bat, if your popularity rating, no matter what polling agency is used, has you at 70, 75%, and it went even higher after the Chechen War ended, I'm not sure why you would have to control any opposition.
Like in the Navalny case, no one ever heard of the guy prior to what happened to him.
he had a few thousand followers on Twitter, something like that.
I mean, he really was a nobody.
He was educated in America, spoke English.
You'll notice that all these so-called opposition figures are usually totally unknown,
and they're all educated in the United States.
In fact, I've gone through the color revolutionaries from all over the world, say, over the last 10 years,
and almost everyone had a degree at an American university.
in something or other.
And when Navalny went to Yale, to study law for some reason, that's when he was recruited
and then sent back to Russia.
I think his party got 3% of the vote, but prior to all this in the legislative elections.
And all of a sudden, now the U.S. created this opposition figure through its media that
had nothing happened to him.
To this day, no one would have heard of them.
So, and not to mention, the methods apparently that he uses are so crude and stupid.
The guy who is allegedly poisoned by radiation, for some reason, his name isn't coming to me.
He died of a long, agonizing debt because that makes sense, right?
Putin's going to make sure this guy who's front-center media dies a slow death because of him.
Yeah, it sounds just like him.
you know these are stupid and crude that that would never happen normally but they needed these
headlines they needed this emotional uh impact of these stories so he doesn't have to
the stories that the media tells are so full of holes that um it's it really is a joke and
and as of recently i don't really deal with it anymore uh because it's the same thing over and over
and over again, and everyone, everyone forgets and then they start over again.
It really is a, it's a joke.
One of the other things that you will hear, and I especially heard this last year when
after February 23rd was that, you know, Vladimir Putin is, and you've already addressed
the fact that he makes it so that people who serve in the government can't keep foreign bank
accounts, things like that, that Vladimir Putin is a trillionaire, that his daughter,
his children live lavish lifestyles all over the world.
He's the richest man in the world.
He's the biggest thief in the world.
And where do those come from?
Well, that's one of the examples I use as a form of projection
because all of that fits the regime in the West perfectly.
If he had that much money, we wouldn't know about it.
I mean, he'd be powerful enough that no one would ever find out.
Apparently, he was so bad at hiding this money that somebody had uncovered it.
And yet with people like Zelensky, politicians in the U.S., that's exactly what they're doing.
They are ridiculously wealthy.
Remember the Pandora papers had Zelensky having like eight mansions around the world.
I'm sure Putin has never done poorly, but it's absolutely nothing like that.
This came entirely out of whole cloth, and it was a way to deflect attention from precisely that kind of billionaire attitude in the West.
I do think it's a form of projection.
What about the another trope, and this one was, I think this one was put out there even more so than any kind of corruption, is that his intention is to invade all of these former.
satellites and reform the Soviet Union?
I mean, reforming it, but they don't, they don't say to what, what version of it?
Yeah, the fall of the Soviet Union led to tens of millions of deaths in Russia.
Even Schulteneitin said that in this extreme poverty that occurred in the 1990s.
Yeah, it was a tragedy.
By the end of the USSR, most state workers were essentially national Bolshevists or national socialists, you know, for lack of a better phrase.
of one kind or another.
But this is a justification that the West uses
for surrounding the country with military bases,
especially in the Baltics, Central Europe,
and in the East as well, completely surrounded.
And as they surround and act very aggressively towards Russia,
they then project that onto Putin saying that's what he's doing.
I mean, the correspondence is one-to-one.
It's perfect.
I think it's very clear that this is psychological.
as much as it is political because you know he's not supposed to be doing that
he was supposed to be you know overseeing a third world country and by using
non-market non-capital style methods are very much a national socialist thing just like in
China he created this power help he has every right to to um try to enforce that he has friendly
or at least neutral states on their border um
And, of course, the U.S. is absolutely no different in that respect.
Again, another form of projection.
I mean, they invaded Grenada in 83.
You know, it just didn't matter.
Panama a few years later, making sure that every neighbor, a close neighbor is directly
under U.S. control, I'm sorry, indirectly under U.S. control, which is why they've been
as well, and it was so severe at the time.
So all these people are doing, are imposing, projecting exactly their
policy on to Putin.
They've never explained how he was going to do this.
Why would he do this?
Why would he deliberately make himself, you know, the Ukrainian case was very obvious as to why he did that.
But so long as there's no aggressive action, you know, these militaries, especially in the Baltics, or created top the bottom by the United States.
So I'm not sure, you know, if I'm in the Soviet Union, well,
the U.S. media like the Soviet Union in the 60s and 70s.
This used to be not a big deal.
There were no sanctions on Soviet leaders.
There were no media condemnations,
mainstream media attacks.
No one's ever been brought to justice as far as what's happened.
The last, you know, 40 years of the USSR's life.
Oh, and by the way, I do have a book dealing with a lot of this called the Soviet experiment,
the Leninist and Stalinist economy.
also published by
the Barnes Review. So I get into much more
much more detail there.
So
you know, that's
where I am and that was established
a long time ago. And
this is just continuing the policies.
When you look at
organizations
that are forming things like
bricks, some of his
associations like with Assum,
people like that, people who are the enemies of the global American Empire.
Are these associations are things like Bricks?
Are these defensive or offensive to go against, to fight the West?
Is it a combination of both?
What are his intentions in doing this, do you think?
Well, from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization to the recent expansion of Bricks,
Yes, it's to consolidate a strong Asian region and that they could, without harming the state or the nations, rebuild an economy without the U.S.
as of now, thanks to the sanctions, and that never hurt Russia at all, quite the contrary.
due to sanctions they totally did dollarize it's almost a complete process now at least in
Russia nationalizing the central bank you know usually indirectly in their dealings with
China you know he has some questionable appointments there he's far from a perfect man but compared
the Americans. He's extraordinary. I'm not going to talk about defensive or offensive
because they really blend into each other. But to the extent that American institutions,
dollars, militaries can't penetrate, you will have the growth of nationalism and
regionalism in all of these areas. And the greatest fear of the American regime is cutting
them out of lucrative trade deals, but the irrationality of the political class and putting
sanctions on anyone and everyone, including India, now, presiding with Russia with all this, and needless
to say, the events in Gaza, which whatever support the U.S. may have had in Asia and Africa has
completely evaporated. So I remember he was in Syria by invitation, as are the Iranians.
And my favorite, I have to pick one favorite move of his.
It was the intervention in Syria.
He knew that the U.S. was allied with Hokkaida there to the extent that that really is a functional group.
The U.S. created ISIS from the ground up.
Putin said, I guarantee you, when I wipe them out in Syria, the U.S. is going to condemn me.
And it got to the point where the condemnation was defending ISIS, giving the Russian,
pilots, the wrong coordinates. They bombed nothing, all to protect ISIS. You had prison breaks
organized by the United States. I have several papers on that question. So what Putin did
is not only did he destroyed this Western finance organization, but he forced the Americans
to essentially admit that we've created them. How can you possibly be opposed to me destroying
them. And of course, they absolutely were. It's kind of like the president of the Philippines
who won his drug war over the last decade or so, immediately condemned by the United States.
He did what you guys are trying to do, and he did it very quickly. But the fact that what they
condemn and what they attack, that's really their true policy, not what they say publicly
at home.
When you consider the Bolshevik revolution, the revolutions in Russia in the early 20th century
and who financed them, people like Jacob Schiff to the tune of what would be considered
today, $2 billion.
When you look at what's happening now, does this just appear to be a continuation of this
Jewish enmity towards Russia to do whatever it can to destroy it, even if it needs to
salt the earth forever?
Yeah, the people who murdered Zarnigalus II were overwhelmingly Jewish and in their
graffiti on the walls of the Apatia of the house where they were murdered, raped and murdered
actually, you had all of these references to the Talmud, I'm sorry, Zohar, Tabala.
The Jews have this instinctive hatred for Russians, and to a great extent, Ukrainians, because it derives from the concept of Rome.
Rome and the Talmud is condemned.
This is, you know, the Goy government, and anything that has that kind of land power, national socialist approach is going to be attacked.
now the pogroms in late imperial russia are a myth
most of the people killed there were
orthodox
the Jews were very very well armed
in the western parts of the empire
but in their minds
and same thing for the Cossacks
this is the
pole of resistance
to American liberalism which is another way of saying
Jewish finance
and their hatred for Russia knows no bounds
you had all these orthodox rabbis coming out
protesting in favor of Ukraine in March of last year.
It seems to be an odd cause for them to rally around
until, of course, you understand
that because the oligarchy in Ukraine is entirely Jewish,
if anything happens to Israel,
at least the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine
are going to be New Qazaria, the successor to Israel,
I mean, the state of Israel,
Israel. So, yeah, the same people who created the Bolshevik revolution in, you know, from, say, 17, 1920, the same ethnic group who oversaw its dismantling and imposition of poverty. They're both the same. First of all, you know, Leninism and capitalism are very similar to each other, ideologically, at their root. But either way, it's still a looting of the country. Same occurred in 1920.
Same thing occurred in 1995, that the Jews were part of both of them, shows you just how close those two systems are.
I think the only big difference was that, you know, you have state ownership rather than private ownership, but otherwise their behavior is exactly the same.
Soviets were a little bit cruder, and the Soviet economy was built by the West.
Anthony Sutton's huge book on the topic is extraordinary, including its high-tech sector.
of course that could never happen today the difference is that the only real
battlement against liberalism the west and jewelry is nationalism soviets were okay
same thing with Mao Mao killed 30 million people that doesn't matter there was no
sanctions on him you know they knew exactly what was going on so yes it's a continuation
whether it be state owned or Jewish private owned it doesn't make any difference they
function in the same way.
And I think,
don't quote me on this, but I think
the new Khazdia idea has
collapsed given the obvious Russian
victory
in Ukraine. Because Ukraine
has long since been a fourth world country.
It's about at the same level as Ghana
or Mali and
Africa in terms of corruption in terms of
the economy.
No one wants to live there.
So when the Russians took
over, you know, Chechny and the eastern part of
Ukraine, all these referenda. The point was that even if you were pro-Ukraine in Crimea,
you don't want to live there. The minute these places became a part of Russia, their GDP,
their bank accounts, everything went through the roof because they switched over to rubles.
And with a massive Russo Chinese gold reserves, the ruble is very safe, despite the back
and forth that we've seen recently. It's really rallied over the last month or so. So,
You know, the short answer is, yes, it's the same mentality, but maybe using substantially different methods.
Either way, they were both revolutionary, then both were materialists, they both brought Jews to power, and they both were immensely unpopular.
Well, I said I was going to keep you at an hour, so I have one more question, one more topic to touch on here.
we're getting reports out of Russia that in the last 10 years birth rates have gone down.
We've seen encroachment of global homo like LGBT, trans ideology,
younger people or some younger people are latching on to that.
Is that, I mean, if that is true, I guess the question would be, if that is true,
I guess we know where that came from, where that influence, that influence was probably
very targeted upon Russia, especially Western Russia, right?
Yes, remember what the NGO is, the non-governmental organization.
These are the arm of corporate capital.
All corporations, big ones, have a tax-exempt organization, and their agenda is always
like Amnesty International.
Go to any of these websites and you see who's...
who's financing them.
Now, the NGO law, which is, you know, old news now in Russia and the foreign financing law
makes their operations much more difficult than it had been in the past.
So they've had to go in differently.
They've had to be more deceptive in their, and you know, Russian liberals, you know, liberals in our sense of the word.
There's only a handful of parties.
Normally they get between two and five percent of the vote.
there's been a couple times where they have been slightly higher than that but always in single digits
so regardless of what might be you know Putin isn't going to kill them all you know he would be popular if he did it but of course it's going to be something like that there
but now that the constitution has been amended where this stuff can't uh take any legal form um you know in georgia
you've seen these homo parade
that had to be protected by an army of cops
same thing goes for
for Kiev
you know it suits the Jewish interest to a great extent
to have their two
Slavic opponents Ukraine and Russia
slaughter each other
this is you know
infestrian to depopulate it
and then move new Khazadia there
although I think that's that's
mostly a that's mostly a fantasy
all right
then we'll leave it right there
I will
of course in
the show notes include what I links to the things you've sent me in the past if you want to
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Well, Dr. Johnson is always a pleasure,
and I look forward to doing this again really soon.
Thank you very much, and have a good Thanksgiving.
You too, my friend.
I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show.
Returning, someone who's quickly become a favorite, Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson.
How are you doing, Dr. Johnson?
Well, we have a beautiful snowy day here in Pittsburgh.
I love the snow.
I love wintertime.
I'm getting over.
What I think is the second round of COVID.
But I'm feeling pretty good.
It was a rough end to 2023, and I'm starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel now.
Yeah, yeah, it's the weather has been down here in Alabama, has just been rainy lately, but it's staying in the 40s.
So if we get snow, then we know that there's something weirds happening.
Whenever we get snow around here, it's just like no one knows what to do, and all the bread and eggs disappear.
I guess everybody's making a French toast or something.
yeah where's you know yeah around here you'd think that these people are from barbadoes
you know it gets under 70 uh degrees and the coats come out they're they're cramming the
the walmarts you know where half these people are from all right well um let's let's get
into a topic here because um this is you know you and i have talked about some uh some topics before
that are controversial in the mainstream.
This is a topic that could possibly be controversial to most people because this is something
that I don't think most people have, most people haven't looked into.
And I know that when people talk about this subject, they talk about it as it's a given,
as if they know the story, the history has been written.
And it turns out it looks like it's court history.
you. So let's talk about pogroms in Russia against Jews. And as you point out right in the beginning
of your lovely work that, well, let's talk about the origin of the term pogrom. What's the
purpose of that term? Well, I think it largely comes from the Jewish language. It may have
Greek backgrounds. I don't mention that here. In fact, I've never thought about it before. But I like the
idea of them using the word to separate violence against them from everybody else.
You know, no one claims, you know, it's one of the arrogant claims of the ruling class today
is the Holocaust affected the Jews.
It's separate from everybody else.
And that's a common claim.
Programs, you know, you didn't hear that word too much back then.
You don't really hear it now, except in relation to this.
and it's just, it separates violence against Jews from violence against any other group.
So that's, you know, I think that's interesting, or at least that's how it worked out in practice.
People bring up the programs in Russia, especially in the late 19th century, early 20th century,
as a, you know, one of the, one of the reasons why Zionism,
came into existence, why Zionism had to be created, people had to talk about having their own
homeland. And basically what we're told is that, you know, just for no reason at all, people would
just rise up and start killing thousands of Jews in certain locations. What does your research say
about that, especially when it comes to Tsarist Russia? Well, this got started when I first read
Joel Zinitsen's 200 years
because he does bring this up
I hadn't looked into it
in great detail before
although this of course is connected
to the revolution of 1905
in the January
so-called
Bloody Sunday
this is essentially
one in the same
one in the same battle
Shelton Eatson says
that and he's right to say this
that these pogroms began
after the murder of Alexander the 2nd
by one of the combat organizations
that people like Tickamedo eventually abandoned
but the violence against the left
which just meant violence against the Jews at the time
there was very few dead Jews
now after
his murder
when you use the word pogroma you're usually talking about
maybe between 1903 and 1906
where the newly absorbed areas of Western Russia
brought millions of Jews into the Russian Empire at the end of the 18th century.
In fact, I have another paper on Gabriel Dersov
and when he was sent by Emperor Paul I to get to the heart of
why are there, why is there violence and hatred against Jews in these areas?
These are very wealthy.
These are extremely important areas for the empire.
No one wanted any trouble in these,
in these trade hubs and all of these cities were and so they wanted violence ended before it began
and of course d'urzavin who tended to be you know at least neutral on the subject came back to
Petersburg and said well there's some good reason for this they're they manipulate the peasants
they hate them they don't charge interests amongst themselves but they do everybody else
they own a huge percentage of the land more than we ever knew and that's why that
the Jewish missions, as they're called, from both Alexander I'm the first and his predecessor
were extremely important why various people know about them.
It's rare that you had a lot of Jewish deaths in any of this.
People think that they were just sitting around counting money.
No, they had very strong militants, both leftists and Zionist militias in every major town
in Western Russia.
And I'm talking about both Belarus and Ukraine, even in, well, now as part of Romania.
They were heavily armed.
There's no, you know, no such thing as a gun law in the Russian Empire.
Couldn't be enforced anyway.
And most of the riots were started by them.
Any time, and I list from the Russian state archives, media at the time, example after example,
after example after example where a procession and there was an Easter Sunday procession that was
disrupted by them any rally in favor of the monarchy or any any church festival were met by
hundreds of armed Jews who wanted to break it up and when you're talking about fairly well-off
cities like Odessa for example which was the Jewish capital of Ukraine for the longest time
and the Jewish capital of the Russian Empire
prior to the revolution
when you have
a half a million Jews in a place like this
any public expression
of Russian orthodoxy
is to them extremely offensive
and they were egged on by the press
which I also mentioned there was very little censorship
the Jewish press was completely of themselves
The leftist press was completely free.
They were incredibly irresponsible,
not that anything has changed.
And they created a myth that the Russians lost the Russo-Japanese War,
which is an enormous myth.
Anything they could to whip up hatred against the government.
Not so much against capital, but against the government.
I have in the Barnes Review,
which is I recommend to everyone,
I had to cover a story a few years ago, I think it was 18, on the so-called Bloody Sunday
massacre, which is right here in the thick of all of this, in January 9th of 1905, which was an aborted
attempt to take over the government, rather than the march for peace and justice, as it's
normally depicted, with no exceptions.
You know, we have people, you know, challenging the narrative on the Russian Revolution, all three of them, and we have people challenging the narrative in World War II, but very few challenging the narrative of the pogromes, which still is a huge part of the elite Jewish mind.
And I came across another article by Andrew Joyce, the Occidental Observer, which was excellent.
He wrote this back in 2012, and people like John Clear, and in Russia, Oleg Plotanov is, you know, one of my favorite authors anyway.
And, you know, he, a lot of my information came from him, whether it be the Bloody Sunday thing or the pogrom, essentially this is all part of the same continuum.
and overwhelmingly it's Russians
and Russian Orthodox people
who were killed in these things
the only time you get an exception to them
is retaliatory strikes
which happened all over the place
you know a bunch of Russians get killed by Jewish militants
and then they actually strike back
that's usually when the state comes in and
ends it but the way that the press
at the time was presenting it both in Russia
and in the US in Britain
was that you have Jews
you know, totally innocent,
probably poverty-stricken,
and black hundreds in the black uniforms
show up and start shooting them.
They never give a reason.
It's just, you know, an early version
of the atrocity story.
The narrative is exactly the same.
I have a quote
from Solzhenitsyn here in that regard,
just the rape of underage girls
and things that
couldn't have happened
under the circumstances, with the implication
that this is the nature of
of Russians to do this, never give a reason, because the minute they give a reason, it becomes
complicated.
That means they did something.
And, of course, there was always a reason, usually now, in this period of time, we're talking
about endless provocation, especially where the church was concerned.
And so my paper was published in Barnview, both the Bloody Sunday and the program one, and it got
a lot of positive reaction because no one has really tackled it before. And it's a pretty
important piece of work for me. Silscheneson says, I'm quoting Salshaneson here, because I think
that when people hear this, if they've been paying attention since October 7th, they'll,
they may hear some stuff that sounds familiar in here. Soltian isn't in St. Petersburg became
frantic newspaper articles were read about the murders of women and infants, and on numerous
occasions, the rape of underage girls, wives raped in the presence of their husbands or parents,
quoting, one Jew had his belly ripped open and the insides came out. A Jewish woman had nails
driven into her head through her nostrils. Within the same week, the Western papers reprinted
these. They unconditionally believed the Russian press. Britain's leading Jews completely relied on
these terrible articles and incorporated them into their protest slogans.
This is, this is, yeah, this is right.
This is one of the quotes that got me to start looking more and more close.
I mean, Plotanov's work helped me there too.
Plotanov is nothing.
I don't remember if I translated this or if this was in English, because not all of that
book has been translated as far as I can see, but this is normal.
And you mentioned, you know, October 7th, you mentioned God knows how many events that are
treated the exact same way and there's not even an attempt to be original because the
accusations are exactly the same for the last hundred years 120 years almost um and they just
fill in the blank with a different country and you're a different person so the left when it comes
to this kind of thing they rely on two things number one that rely on deceit you know they're aware
that they're lying about this same thing for bloody sunday they know that's not what happened
this massacre for no reason
and the other one is public ignorance
now you couldn't say that
so much in Russia because people knew especially in West
Russia where they live next to each other
but to this day
Russia is this black spot
on the American
intellectual brain
such as it is
and when you have a black spot on your brain
you end up just filling it
with whatever you come across
even subconsciously
because there's so
Even among specialists, there's so laughable ignorance about Russia prior to the, prior to the revolution.
You could pretty much say what you want, supporting an agenda, and it's going to go through.
The Soviet press, Soviet books were taken uncritically by American.
Lennon's attacks on the clergy and everything else was partially based on these pogrom, as if they had anything to do with it.
It was such a Jewish movement that the Bolsheviks were so Jewish that any, the pogrom was an attack on the USSR before the USSR existed.
Any anti-Semitic statement was interpreted by the party as anti-Soviet as a matter of course.
So, and of course, they singled out the black hundreds or the union of the Russian people, the assembly of the Russian people who still exist.
And so they could just kind of create these James Bond villains.
killing people for absolutely no reason and knowing full well just how powerful the jews were then
and now and how they're um how these wild exaggerate without any um talk about how these things
came about who started it how heavily armed were these jewish militias in all um western russian
cities and how little i mean they blamed the government for this even though they
They were the only ones who came in and finally stopped it.
This is an empire, not a country.
So a lot of politics was local.
And even in 1905, you had a provisional government erected in Odessa, with very few people know about it.
It was more symbolic than anything else.
You had a lot of strikes.
You had some violence during the Russo-Japanese War at home.
And the strikes were targeted specifically from the defense industry.
and they spread the mythology about that war
same thing about World War I
it was just defeatism everywhere
to take any credit away from
the monarchy
and then in 1906
czar signed the manifesto
there are certain basic freedoms that are guaranteed
and Lenin himself said this is great
because now we could take advantage of it to overthrow it all
so in environments like this
rumors spread pretty quickly
so you know the fact that jews were the wealthiest group of people in the empire at the time
is conveniently ignored or simply unknown or they or people will just say that you're jealous
because you're mentioning their wealth yeah yeah well it certainly was important back then
but so long as there was no attacks on the system
the monarchy was quite you know interesting
in letting that go just to make sure that the tax money came in that these areas were
continuously built up that used to be a part of the of the Polish Empire but after a while
have you know from the really from like you know 5 especially bloody Sunday and on January 9th
in the strikes everything else they took advantage of a difficult situation to everything
as the Soviets did after
1980, 1919
had
all these many attempts
and experiment, do the exact same thing at the
local level. Odessa was one
of the more obnoxious
versions of this, where the mayor
had the red flag over his
departments
in 1905.
And a few other, you know,
Chunk of Moscow did it to,
typical leftist stuff.
And they cleansed.
whatever areas they control, however temporarily, of anything Russian Orthodox.
They pissed everybody off, and this is what the Bolsheviks were over that period of a generation.
This is what their agenda was, and it was so Jewish that they associated the two things normally.
They just go together.
So an attack on a Jew is an attack on the USSR, and that's how Lenin saw.
certainly on Sarkrotsky saw it, and the beginning of these policies were formulated in this era.
What I see today is when I bring up like woke ideology, Frankfurt School, feminism, these things that have basically movements that are headed up and the minds behind them are Jewish.
I mean, this is inarguable. This can't be argued is.
what a lot of people now will say is, well, no, it wasn't Jews.
It was leftists.
I'm like, well, okay, well, what are their names?
And it seems like you had the same thing happening back then where it's like, you know,
a lot of people listening to this right now could be like, well, if the Jews were doing all
of this, you know, if they were responsible for the murder of Alexander II, well, these
are just revolutionaries.
They're all revolutionaries.
These are people who are anti-a-z-z-ar.
They're just revolutionaries.
The fact that they're Jews are secondary.
But it always seems like they, when they're heading up and they're the brains behind these operations.
And especially at this time, also the guns behind it, the swords behind it, they're hiding behind something else like revolution or Bolshevism so that you don't see, you.
I think this is what a lot of people would say today is they would be like, well, the fact that they're Jewish doesn't mean anything.
They were just revolutionaries.
And it's like, okay, well, why are all of these revolutionary movements headed up by Jews?
Well, it's hard to blame them.
I mean, if they have a job, if they have a normal life somewhere, they can't be talking like us.
And to ease the cognitive dissonance, they have to come up with all of these explanations.
you know, at the time
I have it
the 1897 census Jews were about
4% of the population
but they were the majority
of the
members of the merchant class
which was an official class in the cities
meaning that they ended up creating this cartel
plugged into the international network
and getting money from abroad
they didn't charge interest to each other
but to everybody else
and especially the rural Russians at the time
who didn't fully understand
and all the economy was monetized at this point
didn't understand how money works
and there were very easy marks
so in the major western
Russian cities
Kishny of Gomez started up these places
even Kiev itself
Odessa
they were millions of Jews
they were extremely well organized
they were wealthy, they were well-armed,
far better off financially anyway
than the Russians who they live close to.
The Kiev program in 1905 that same year,
I think you had 250, roughly 200 killed,
and even according to the hospital,
about 12% were Jews.
These were started by very well-armed Jewish revolutionaries,
making war on any symbol of either the crown
or the church,
which they associated anyway.
And you could go on.
You know, I quote a few of them where in Odessa, of course,
Jacob Breitman was the guy who started that riot with a bomb.
The incendiary leaflets in the 1906 Chernigov version had three elite Jews,
Yanklebrook, Pinkus Kugersky, Tamagolski,
calling for the murder of.
of all royalists, deaths to the czar, and a shutting down of any non-leftist or at least pro-Jewish newspaper.
And this comes from Oleg Plotanov, too, in his work from 2005.
In places like Stodododub, you know, 1902, so we're going on a few years earlier than that,
there was a militia demanding the eviction of the Orthodox population of the city.
They're cleansing the area of these, you know, of the Gentiles.
was normal. The only time it gets called the pogrom is when the
Gentiles fought back. I cite
the June 1st, 1906, the Jewish Bund heavily armed,
attacked a nationalist, actually was an orthodox procession, killing 25
people. And let me quote the Vilna Gazette here
from the Baltics, and I quoted that from Plotano
that same book of his. Here's what they wrote at the time.
In Chisnau, the September
2003 riots saw the Jewish
provocateurs and their well-armed self-defense
units showing no care about the safety of ordinary Jews
organized to attack Russians
and cause disorder.
One thug, Pinkish Jasevsky
tried to shoot the Russian writer
Crucible on with a revolver. Unfortunately, the wound
wasn't serious. And the perpetrator
was arrested by the Russian people
and punished by the court.
Now, he says Russian people explicitly.
In other words, it was a crowd that went
and grabbed them.
so this happened over and over and over again and since no alternative point of view was ever let you know out of the country uh at least in a way that the englishman could read it the only version of this that they got was from the jews and then later the bolsheviks so um and this is you know you have people who challenge the the holocaust in 43 44 45 but very few people challenging this uh this set of stories and it's
and it's particularly outrageous, and the rhetoric was exactly the same.
What these Jewish leftists and Jewish nationalist groups wanted to do
was exactly what the Soviets did a few years later.
You can tell they wanted to do that
because between 1905 and 1906,
they were murdering governors and mayors.
I think you wrote 15 governors and mayors,
267 security officials,
which would have been some form of police,
and 12 bishops.
Okay, so, I mean, this is echo, I look at this,
and I immediately start thinking of the Spanish Civil War
because that was just multiplied by hundreds, by thousands, basically.
But yeah, how, if these revolutionaries are murdering,
sitting officials, police, and heads of the church,
how are we supposed to take it that they are the,
they're the victims here
that just doesn't make any sense
especially when you understand that these revolutionaries
are majority
Jewish
you know in my paper on
Bloody Sunday I say the exact same thing I use that
you know we're talking about the same period of time
here
and even people
who don't want to deal with the fact
it is an overwhelmingly Jewish movement
at least at the
at least at the combat organization level
terrorism was a huge problem
terrorism
usually you know
yeah governors you had some high level people but a lot of low level
bureaucrats were killed
were killed too
and
you know the only person really that would
that would do that in furtherance of some
kind of secular utopia in the future
is this is this Jewish elite
and I have I list so many of the names
and so many papers of mine
of who these people are I could I could barely
I could barely keep up with them.
I could hardly remember them.
There's so many of them.
And to even bring that up now in parts of Western Europe is to commit a crime.
The 1905 Bloody Sunday thing was such a tragedy because most of the people, a huge crowd that went to the Winter Palace in Petersburg, were very loyal.
They thought that they were giving a wartime list of demands as far as working conditions,
concern. The Russian working conditions were excellent at the time, and it was the leftists who
were armed, who started shooting people. And so you end up with a gunfight, with government.
People had no idea who they were being led by. They actually broke into the church, one of the
cathedrals, and stole icons so they could march with it. So people will think, oh, this is a loyalist,
this is a loyalist march. And of course, it's always deceit.
They base themselves on deceit.
They used deceit to get their way.
They could never get 300,000 people to march for their agenda.
So they lied.
And they said how moderate we are.
By the time they get to the Winter Palace, they're talking about burtering the czar.
No one else is.
And so innocent people get killed.
The state was not expecting it was a big march.
They thought it was going to be a peaceful thing.
And at the last minute, they opened fire.
And like it or not, it was a very Jewish movement, except for one of the leaders was Father Gerger Gippon, who was a left-wing priest, who was eventually defrocked because of a lot of this.
He was a secret revolutionary, and he, but he was working with Pinchis Rutenberg, Jewish nationalist, hated everything, everything Russian.
He was one of the founders of the American Jewish Congress, by the way, and the Jewish Legion during.
World War I. He controlled the Palestine electric company. So he wasn't just any old
Zionists. It's today the electric corporation of Israel. And he was one of the leaders,
not just of the revolution in Russia, but he built one of the first Jewish militias in Palestine.
He founded Palestine airwaves. He was president of the Jewish National Council.
He served in the provisional government under Kerensky very briefly. And he was a huge part,
not just of the organization of the revolution from 1905 to 1980 in Russia,
but then later on building the early pre-Israel militias in the Middle East.
So Gapan almost was used precisely because he was a priest.
They eventually murdered him when he wasn't useful anymore.
But at the time, even in the West, Bolshevik and Jewish were seen as more
or less synonymous.
He had the same thing in Hungary
and the so-called red government in Balakun
where Stalin was so upset
that he said you need to have one big Jewish name
in your organization. It's 100%
Jewish. So they had to search and make him president
of the Hungarian People's Republic
who had no power, of course. It took
days to find a non-Jewish
leader in Hungary.
You know, by a generation, after all.
of this.
But so, so that those two things, public ignorance and deceit, these two things are absolutely
necessary for this agenda to even have a chance of going through.
What I find interesting is that the, they even controlled the press in Russia to the point
where you had mentioned, I think you had already mentioned, how does that I pronounce
Chisinao or Chisano?
Yeah, Chisna, yeah.
Chisna, how they, the provocateurs, basically they tried to cause disorders there.
And it was for the purpose of disorder to create chaos, the population will be more sensitive
to manipulation.
And these stories of a massacre that happened to Jews that never happened.
You even have William Randolph Hearst writing in the American press.
We accused the Russian government of bearing the responsibility for the Chisanao Massacre.
We declare that this Holocaust is steeped in blood.
It is on Nicholas's door that we lie these killings and violence.
May the God of justice come into this world and finish Russia as he finished with Sodom and Gomorrah,
sweeping this hotbed of hate from the earth as a plague.
And this is from, this is from Plentinoff.
And I think he's quoting from, basically a lot of this was coming from like the Vilna Gazette from Russian newspapers.
Yeah, the Baltimore son in earlier, earlier than this goes back to Alexander the second two in 1903.
That was before even the worst of it got started.
And he, and this is why the American.
view at the time was so twisted.
This is why there was
support for the revolutionary. There was support for the
Reds amongst
otherwise normal Americans because this is
what they had been fed.
The same thing was occurring during the Crimean
War, a generation earlier, and the
same thing is going on right now.
So when you have zero
knowledge, especially back then,
Russia was just considered
a part of the Orient.
You had to go to Harvard to get to
get a degree in the Russian language.
Even regular state schools didn't have it.
And this man is aware that he doesn't know.
But because a few of these, usually rabbis,
were writing in English and French and German,
it must be true.
I mean, how could you deny someone like that?
Royce even mentions the Prussian rabbi
that served as the intermediary between events in Russia
and in the West.
Rabbi Yitzhak Ruf, who established himself as the intermediary between the Jews of the East and the West.
And even, you know, I quote here, clear, one of the important writers more recently, was their sensationalized accounts of mass rape, which came out of New York Times, the London Times, and especially the Jewish world.
The Jewish world newspaper invented a lot of this stuff.
and then because of the rabbi as well as the Jewish world,
the Times and the London Times in particular,
and of course anything where Hearst was concerned,
simply repeated this stuff,
repeated this stuff without any criticism.
It's the same thing now.
Very little has changed here.
And no one knew the first thing about what was happening over there,
why this happened,
they just bought the idea that for no reason,
Russians wearing black uniforms,
and went in the name of God,
shot all these Jews.
But the truth is
the overwhelming majority of both the
injured and the dead were non-Jewish
because they were the ones who started
this in the first place.
And it wasn't just this violence
by an organized militia.
It was also, you know, these leaflets
and little booklets that were circulating
saying we're going to kill all of these people.
And if we do it, the Messiah is going to come
and we could all, you know,
becomes Zionists and go to Israel
and rule with him.
Now, you did have, like I mentioned, the Vilna Gazette and a few other places, that's from Plotanoff, and there's a few from Solzhenits in that he quotes, too, that knew what was going on and reported it.
But when you have so few people who could speak the language in Western Europe, especially the United States, it fell on deaf ears.
Betharabi and Province News, also from 1903, or 1903, talking about the Jewish agitators.
and Chisinau and all these other places,
preparing for war, riot, and murder.
And so many of their violence occurred on Easter,
either the eve or the day of.
And in their province news, they were eyewitnesses to this.
But again, it wasn't in English.
So it never quite penetrated to,
even when the exiles from the Soviets entered the West,
they didn't speak English.
And they didn't do a very good job of translating their work
into the language that the average American could understand.
Really, still to this day, they're just terrible propagandists, the monarchy especially.
You know, he, for a mon, and I understand this, for the monarchy to lower itself to polemics
and left-right debates, that was considered a, that's what politicians do.
That's not what the great unifier does, the great restrainer.
So the problem there is that although you had many monarchist intellectuals,
then and now. Ivan Illegis is increasingly well-known, Plotano of being another,
Catason of so many of these great writers. Very few of them became popular in the West,
spoke English, wrote in English, and it's only been very recently that a lot of this stuff
has been translated for the very first time.
There's still not an official translation of 200 years together into English.
what we have what we have access to unless you do speak Russian and I believe it's also translated
into French or like samiz dot copies but one thing I do want to mention is we're recording this
on January 6th pretty much every newspaper in the world is reporting the three years ago
an insurrection attempt happened in Washington DC and
How people ask, how is that possible?
How is it that they, you know, they all seem so slanted.
They all say, no, they have an agenda.
And here's the thing.
They always had an agenda.
Newspapers have always had an agenda.
And especially newspapers, if you, if one group is behind a revolution and that same group
also controls all of the newspapers or it controls the majority of the newspapers,
and the newspapers that are being taken seriously in the West,
the ones that the West will pick up on and report,
well,
if they belong to the same group and they're on the same side
and they agree with each other,
of course they're going to have an agenda,
and of course things are going to be reported in a certain way.
I mean, you know,
what you wrote here seems to be true.
There's two sentences.
The majority of the terrorists were Jews,
the pogroms were a cover story for their own violence.
And it's once you start looking at this, once you start, when you have people quoting their newspapers,
when you have someone like Solzhenycin who went to great lengths to detail and footnote
everywhere he got his information from.
And Solzhenyson, so many people who would quote his Gulag Archipelago want to ignore,
or this book, well, why? Ask yourself, why if you're one of those people? Why would he, why wouldn't
this be the same level of research that he put into Gulag Archipelago? I mean, it just,
we know, everyone knows that the press has an agenda. They're not biased. They have an agenda.
Why wouldn't they have an agenda back then? But we're not talking about it.
the middle age, you know, we're not talking about the middle ages. We're not talking about
the town crier. We're talking about mass printed newspapers that are being read throughout
the empire. People are being told. I was told when I was in college that the czar ruled over
everything. Jews were second-class citizens and there was 100% censorship over the press.
And it was only when I don't speak Russian at all, but when I learned the language to read enough
to get by
it opened up a whole new world
because things that are of mainstream
opinion over there have
no bearing on reality over here
it's two different universes
and now there's very
few Jews left in Russia
since the 1970s and USSR
most of them have have left
I think it's like 0.02%
Ukraine is a different story
because again the farther west you go in the old Russian
empire the more Jewish you get
none of this stuff started
until after the Polish partition
when the Polish Empire fell
very late 18th century
some of these towns and economic hubs
were brought into the Russian Empire
now they have this
unmoving
Cahal system
to deal with and they had no experience
hence the Dershaven mission
to Minsk
in places like that
the Russians really were
very naive in dealing with these people
at the time
and then within
50 years
you have these
combat organizations
using the secrecy
and the autonomy
of the Kahal system
to hide
Shulz and Eaton
and so many others
and I have
God the sheer amount of writing
I've done on the October
Revolution
it's almost absurd
and you know
the Jewish
presence is overwhelming
as I said this before
there's really
know there's no reason
for socialism to be anti-Christian.
In fact, you had
idealist
and Christian socialist institutions all over
old Russia. And there were some of the
first things to be destroyed
when the Bolsheviks took over.
The working population
of the peasantry, not only these are last people
that they wanted to deal with,
they had no dealings with these people,
but they wanted to destroy the
knowing full well that the West will
bail them out. The overwhelming,
I mean, the overwhelming majority of the revolutionary at the time come from very wealthy,
either Polish or Ukrainian, upper-class merchant families.
None of these people were workers.
None of these people knew what a worker was.
And in Russia, doing so well, second half the 19th century, Russia was exploding in terms of
industry, in terms of money, in terms of population, in terms of the popularity of the system,
they needed to act
they needed to act fast
and unfortunately for them
they didn't they didn't pull it off in 1905
1906 but they were able to pull it off
a little bit more than 10 years later
and it got to the point
where if there was any orthodox
you know any public orthodox presence
in a city where there were a lot of Jews
there was going to be fighting
and the fighting
came from the Jewish side
at least initially
retaliation was often forbidden because of the presence of the state
because this is again they knew the bad press that they would get number one and number two
these are very wealthy areas they can't afford this this money to go elsewhere
and because of that I mean this is what the Jewish nationalist movement was gambling on
anyway and at the West wanted to believe everything negative about about Russia
so they were going to jump on every little thing and I have to go through them
but I have from the state archives and this comes from numerous
authors who cited this stuff, you know, act of terror after act of terror from
mobs of Jews in different parts of the empire.
You had the individual acts of terror where they would kill a bureaucrat somewhere.
It really became a huge problem.
They were getting shot all over the place and blown up.
But also mob actions all over turn, it was designed in Moscow itself during the violence
1905
Odessa was one of the worst
because I had the mayor's office
and they were simply
shooting non-Jewish
policemen. Orthodox people
in that city became rebels and acted
accordingly. And any
act from them against the
provisional government of Odessa
was seen as an anti-Semitic pogrom.
Peasants
reacted violently in the rural
areas.
The Rasta van Don
manifesto, which was almost exclusively Jewish, created their own militia there, and they tried
to seize power in the city there.
And it was only the citizens that were able to fight back.
And then that's when you had Jewish shops that were destroyed, was beaten by the demonstrators
after it, but only because of the damage that they did initially.
And this happened every few months in the era that we're talking about here.
and usually the aggressors were, almost always the aggressors were these Jewish militias
who really were convinced, I mean, they were both Zionists and Bolsheviks or Marxists of one kind or another,
like Moses Hess, that somehow we kill enough Gentiles, the Messiah will appear.
Some of this seems to be what we would think of as Bolshevism, as Marxism, as being anti-capitalist.
Yet we know that the, like you earlier as Solzhenitin points out that some on the left interpreted the protection of Jews in the region, the same as protection of capitalists.
Many will ask, how can Jews be Bolsheviks and also be capitalists, also be, you know, if you look at the whole, if I remember Solzhenitin, right, talking about 1810, 1820 is really when there.
they become huge merchants in Russia, their wealth starts growing, they start gathering all
these arms together. But it also becomes very revolutionary. It also becomes very what you would
see as anti-capitalist while they're basically creating capital, I mean, the famously the
alcohol, the drink, but everything else, farming, tenant farming, things like that. How do you square
that circle when so because somebody somebody will ask that especially liberal like the libertarian
crowd will be like well they can't be they can't be bolsheviks and capitalists at the same time
what are you talking about well i'm glad you asked me that because i've spoken about that way
more than i i want to admit i have a list of the of the fundamental assumptions that both
uh you know materialist Marxian socialism on the one hand has and capitalism on the other
meeting, you know, advanced capitalism, you know, around today.
And it's never-ending.
Bolivism and capitalism are very similar at their fundamentals.
And they function in very much the same way, especially today.
They're materialists.
They're obsessed with production and efficiency.
They believe that they are the true proper end of the enlightenment, that they're scientific,
that they're the true interpretation of them.
Darwin. They're secular. They're heavily Jewish at their foundations. You know, it didn't matter
who ran the institutions so long as they were easily able to be controlled. All the planned
economy meant in the Soviet system, especially early on, was that if you're able to plan
an entire economy, that implies that you own everything to begin with. Every bit of productive
capital, the Soviet Union, was owned by the party.
Every bit of productive capital in the West either is owned by or goes through a very
Jewish banking cartel, and that's international, not just in the West.
It's a matter of control and or ownership, not just, you know, an oligarchy is the end of
capitalism.
Aligarchy is in a market-based institution, assuming that that ever exists.
existed, oligarchy functions the same way, the Soviet Union did, just far more and more sophisticated
way, and after the fall of the Soviet Union in the 1990s, the oligarchs were almost exclusively
Jewish, and today in Ukraine, exclusively Jewish. There was one exception. I think that was
Putin, early on. It was the only exception to this, because the Jews separated from the USSR in the
1970s. And then suddenly it became okay to be anti-Soviet. The money was running out, and the
capital is not being replaced.
You know, the brechin of stagnation
changed everything.
So the system
and the slogans and the buzzwords
aren't important. It's who ends up
with money.
And now beyond that,
you have people like Jacob Schiff
financing the Bolshevik Revolution. He knew exactly
what he was doing. But because
of stuff like the Hearst papers
and this kind of rhetoric,
how many people in the West knew what the heck of Bolshevik
was?
People saw this group as able to capture the Russian market for us.
One of the shocking, one of the things that should completely change one's approach to 20th century history is the fact that the U.S. and Great Britain built the Soviet economy.
They had nothing in 1920.
They were starving.
And it was Ford Motor Company.
Henry Ford himself built the largest truck plant in the world in eastern Ukraine and in the 1930s.
Their entire automotive industry comes from.
from that. Their tank engines, their their military plane engines, both jet and previous to that,
are either of American or British design. General Electric electrified the country. The American
mining firms, what did they have? The Rothschilds owned the oil fields near Baku in today's
Azerbaijan. There was no attempt to destroy the USSR. The white armies didn't receive a penny.
from any, either Western government or, or capitalist.
The only reason you had Western military
and during the Russian Civil War
was to protect the oil fields in the South
or to keep stores of weaponry
from falling into the hands of the Germans.
They scuttled the ammunition
rather than give it to the whites.
The Reds were being lavishly funded.
Every staff member was paid.
So, you know,
This is just the nature from 1920 to, say, the mid-70s and even beyond, everything ultimately came from the U.S. or the U.K., sometimes some from Germany.
They didn't have, although they were highly industrialized, by the time Lenin essentially destroyed the country, and there was no food, they didn't have much of anything.
And in the Stalin era, you had, everything was under, you know, essentially contract with Western companies.
There was not one aspect of the industrialization process in the Soviet Union that didn't come fundamentally from the West.
I mean, Italy was the number one, under Mussolini, was a number one trading partner for a while in the early years of the Soviet Union.
They had technicians all over the USSR early on.
Italy was one of the first countries to recognize the Soviet government.
Everything that people think they know about this is BS.
Anthony Sutton's three-volume work on this very topic
and then his later work about national suicide
about how American military secrets were voluntarily given over
to Soviet scientists.
These weren't opposed ideological systems.
They may have had divergent interests
in certain parts of the world.
But ideologically, they had no problem with each other.
Or at least the capitalist had no problem with the Reds.
There were no sanctions on the Soviet Union, not until the Jews were involved in the 70s.
All Soviets' debts were from World War II were canceled.
The entire economy was built by Western technicians who then trained their Soviet counterpart.
I mean, the whole Gulag system, you had American and British architects putting this stuff together, not knowing what was happening.
They didn't have that skilled labor at the time.
given what happened between World War I and the Civil War.
Nothing that the average person thinks that the average normie thinks is true is real.
And it's extremely important to know that.
Capitalism is inherently revolutionary.
Karl Marx realized he said free trade is necessary for the socialist revolution
because the free trade destroys all local communities.
It destroys nations.
It destroys any integral body beyond the family and even the family.
It's revolutionary and it still is.
as ideological systems outside of, you know, textbooks,
the two, you know, capitalism built the USSR.
There was never any big ideological divide.
And the only time, like early on, Woodrow Wilson would condemn Lenin
because he was being too much like the czar.
And they came up with the nonsense that Stalin was an anti-Semite.
And this just nonsensical historical
point of view is destroyed by Anthony Sutton. I've done my own work in the area. U.S.
wasn't anti-communist. Sometimes diplomatically there were problems, you know, in Korea and
elsewhere, but that had nothing to do with ideology. There was constant trade between the two
countries. You can't have a cold war when you're building up your enemy. And once that's
understood and the evidence put in place, everything changes. Well, you finished out.
the article by saying that the pogroms were a crude set of stories invented for several
reasons. One was they covered over for Jewish violence at the time as well as during the Soviet
era. It depicted the Tsar as a Jewish stereotype of bloodthirsty, bloodthirsty ignorant, hypocritical
tyrant. Later it covers over violence in the Jewish USSR, run USSR. But one of those says
It gave permit Britain an excuse to demonize their main global rival.
How was Britain and how were they, Britain's main global rival at the time?
Well, Britain had two.
Very similar country, Germany and the Russian Empire.
Their populations were exploding.
Their industrial potential was extraordinary.
They were industrializing so fast.
it's really hard to get accurate statistics.
And, well, Britain couldn't fight both at the same time.
In fact, they probably couldn't fight one at the same time.
So World War I was partially a way to get her two biggest rivals to fight each other.
And, of course, Balkans was the flashpoint.
The biggest nightmare in London, the turn of the 20th century, was an alliance between
Germany and the Russian Empire.
I mean, the Kaiser and the Tsar were cousins at the time.
And because of the growth of the Navy,
the banking system, which was under state control in both countries,
the popularity of royal rule,
the tremendous growth of the military apparatus,
tremendous growth of the scientific apparatus,
their technological advances,
all under, you know,
fairly stern royal houses in both Berlin and St. Petersburg, this terrified the British.
And so getting in the fight each other was pretty much the only chance they had. Then eventually,
the czar was overthrown. And in 1917, 1918, the Soviet Union was put in its place,
which did not threaten Britain because Britain was heavily invested over there. So it was their
tremendous economic growth
under different auspices.
These weren't just strictly market systems
was a huge threat
just like Russia's growth over the last 20 years
is a huge threat to the liberal empire today.
When you really start digging down
deep into the
reasons why
World War I would happen,
many reasons,
and then you start,
once you start realizing that the Soviet Union
was a weight,
to how many capitalists, like Western capitalists, had their hands in it, even in the founding
of it.
It's just another one of those things that people need to realize that history isn't written
by the victors.
History is written by academics, and history is written by people who write newspapers
and write in magazine columns.
That's all you need to know about history.
And in order to really dig down deep into it, you're going to have to go back and try and find sources as close to the events as possible and be able to really read through the BS.
For some reason, I've dedicated my entire adult life to that process.
Self-inflicted torture.
And a lot of us, a lot of us are really happy that you're.
did because at this point, trying to know, trying to understand what the truth is is really hard
because, and let's face it, most people are set in their ways. Most people have already
decided that they know what the truth is. So changing their minds, I really, I respect anyone
who is able to change their mind and change their opinions.
And most people that I meet who don't, who, you know, who, I say like 2020 is one of those
times when you really needed to start reexamining and looking at what you believed.
And if you, if the politics that you believed in, you thought that it was going to be,
even your personal politics, how you live your life personally, how that was going to be able
to come up against people who could basically shut the world down.
And just finding people who are willing to go out and do that and devote their lives
to destroying these false narratives and there's just really this blatant agenda-driven propaganda.
And, you know, I want to thank people like you and thank you personally for doing everything you do because I don't, I want to know the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is.
Well, and that's, and I've made up my mind, even in college, I said, I don't care.
I can't, what's the point of becoming a scholar if you're just going to repeat what the regime is saying all over the place?
What's the point of getting a PhD in that case?
What's the point of having critical skills if you're just repeating the basic fundamentals of the system?
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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show.
Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is back.
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Well, I appreciate you and having me back.
I'm not doing too badly.
Great, great.
So got a topic here that I know is of interest to a lot of people,
and there was no one else that I really thought to contact to talk about it.
A lot of people talk about what happened,
And the revolution and the subsequent civil war that happened in Russia, especially starting
in 1917, but really nobody starts getting into the nuts and bolts of how it carried
out and how it played out.
So I wanted to have you on today.
And I guess we'll start right at about the time that after the October takeover and go
from there.
So you're up for that?
Yeah, it's what I do.
You know, for better or for worse, it's what I do.
And I have, in fact, so much writing on the topic, I can't keep them straight.
I have so many papers in this era.
And, of course, my book, The Soviet Experiment, really deals with the period of between 1917 and, I don't know, 1930.
So the early part is, I think, the most interesting.
And, yeah, there's a lot, of course, that the mainstream historians refuse.
to mention and uh i i i want to fix that i want to fix it right now in fact you you have the
floor go right ahead i will interrupt with any questions and uh anytime you want to you feel like
the topic has come to an end i'm sure i will have a question written down here for you well
zarn nicholas the second later canonized by the russian orthodox church in exile as well as
the moscow patriarch years later never abdicated the abdication
note is it's phoning it's uh it's a clumsy forgery put together by the general staff
um and in russia that's kind of well known it was it was a type written uh which is was
never the case for these kind of imperial statement uh partly to avoid forgery uh so and so that
that's uh that's one of the many myths you got to remember everything that the average normie
and believes about the world is wrong.
It's a series of stories.
And this is no different.
They refuse to talk about the Jewish role in all of this,
which is akin to talking about football and refusing to talk about the New York Jets,
you know, or the NFC.
It doesn't make any sense.
They end up sounding ridiculous.
You had,
essentially two factions afterwards
liberals
these all come from the wealthy elite
overwhelmingly Jewish
by the time the Civil War
began a year or two afterwards
all right wing parties had been banned
as popular as
they would have been
you had the
social democratic
revolutionary socialist
that eventually
became the bulk of
later on, the faction of them supported the provisional government and allegedly didn't
care much for violence, although I don't understand what the revolutionary would mean in
their name.
And the leftists ended up joining what eventually became the Bolsheviks.
And the constituent assembly didn't mean that much in Petersburg.
Peterborough wasn't going to be the capital for much longer anyway.
but rather the Lenin dominated all Russian Congress or Soviets.
But the Soviet, that particular council in Petersburg, opposed to Lenin's agenda.
So it's infighting among the extreme left.
The Petrograd Soviet actually took the side of the provisional government,
which is just as leftist as anything else out there.
and for a brief time
they shut the Bolsheviks out
Lenin and Zinovi
flushed with money from Germany
which is another way of saying from Western banks
Germany didn't have anything to give
at the end of World War I
Lenin was outraged
he said this is the new Belize case
as if to stretch the
that was one of the ritual murder cases in Ukraine
in fact from there on
in, Lenin considered any criticism of the USSR, the takeover as Jewish blood libel. And he used a lot of
Jewish turns afraid. So the provisional government eventually collapsed entirely. And at the same
time, of course, you have the Supreme Commander Cornelov who wanted to put a break on this,
on this chaos. Eventually, Cornelov was betrayed, quote,
unquote, you know, and his confederates like Khrimov, so-called committed suicide, in quotes.
The provisional state and the Bolsheviks, regardless of their public disagreements, worked together all the time.
The Bolshevik name, meaning, you know, Bolshoi or large or great, in this case, it means a majority.
By force had their people put into the, both the Petrograd and the Moscow Soviets.
Trotsky at the same time began preparations for an uprising, his so-called military revolutionary committee, thinking that this is going to guard and protect the second Congress of Soviets.
It was only a handful of Bolsheviks in the capital, but the government had absolutely nothing there.
So, on October 24th, 25th, a regiment or so of red forces took all the key infrastructure, power stations,
telegraphs and the media.
So, on the 25th, the provisional government was officially deposed.
So he triumphs only because of foreign money and violence.
He then created the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, which eventually in 1937 became
the Supreme between Soviet.
And much of Lenin's agenda was part of his very famous book in 1917 called The State and Revolution.
And I have torn this apart and he didn't mean a word of it.
He justifies terrorism.
But his program, 1917, talks about worker control of industry.
transfer of land to the to the peasantry, democratization of the army, etc., a convocation of a constituent assembly, which of course never happened, not to mention self-determination of nations, which was a big propaganda plank of the early Bolshevik party.
That, of course, they rejected the minute they took over.
the bolsheviks were a tiny party flushed with foreign cash it was a it was a judeic party and this is a key element
the jews were the beneficiary of these of these events i also want to note that the white
armies received zero support from the western powers the interventions were there to keep
Germany from re-arming itself to take the ammunition that the Russians were using during
the war and then they'd give them to the whites, they threw them in the water, just off
of Murmansk.
And this is at a time when UNDINich forces were doing very well.
White forces were doing very well.
But, you know, you had someone like Montgomery Skylar, Captain in the Army, American Army,
said in a telegram, he said, that.
Russian Jews dominate Soviet Marxism and the correspondent for the London Times, the very well-known
Robert Wilton, who wrote the last day to the Romanos in 1920, actually lists all their names
and in the Soviet, 384 Bolshevik deputies and about 300 were Jews. And the same thing
for their so-called opposition, the Petrograd Soviet had almost 300 people and 271
were Jews and of that
271, 265
were brought by Kratky
from Brooklyn
and he arrived
with, you know, Wall Street
millions
and, you know, if you've read
the last day of the Romano's, a lot of this will be
is already well known.
Russians had very little
to do with this
so-called revolution.
So in Staten Revolution, he made these promises and he had no intention of keeping.
No army, no police.
You'll be an architect one day, like Marx says, and you'll be a grocer the next day and intellectual
the third day.
But violence and coercion was always going to be a part of the agenda, no matter what.
When he talks about, whether Engels or Lennon talks about the withering away of things, he
means the old system. He doesn't mean his. Yet they call the police force by a different
name. And therefore, you could say the withering away of the of the police. But there, even
Frederick Engels. And then Lenin, of course, echoed him by saying that this is the nature of
revolution. It's a terrorist method. It's, and I'm quoting him directly, it's whereby one
part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of
the rifles, bayonets, and cannon.
He also then says
that the victorious party has to maintain
its rule by terror.
He talks about the reactionaries,
but the white armies
were so scattered
without supplies
and having no ideological core.
They were well led,
but the Soviets
had the propaganda outlets
down.
You know,
the
dictatorship of the proletariat was one of Engels' ideas from Marx, and of course, is one of the few things
that Lenin took very seriously in that book. It started off in October of, actually November of
1917, the decree in the media, which shut down all opposition publications. And then the
All-Russian Extraordinary Commission was created, a checker.
under the leadership of Felix Dersinski, who is a, who is not, not Russian.
He's Jewish and from, and from Poland.
So when Kerenzky fell, and again, I don't think there were as bitter enemies as they're made out to be,
the officers in PetroGuard completely gave up.
They didn't have, they didn't know what was what.
They claimed to want a constituent assembly.
but of course at the same time
the Cossack areas had refused to be a part of it
the constituent assembly was a theory
more than a reality even there
the elections really never mattered
but only leftist parties could be a part of it
and the Bolsheviks got about 20% of the vote
with a turnout rate of like 40%
because again
these weren't competitive elections
the Petrograd Soviet Soviet
is different from the constituent assembly
which never really mattered
but the elections took place
it's like having a one party
state if a democrat's
definitely going to win the election the only race
that matters is a democratic primary
and it's the same thing
here that Lenin had so much
money and was you know
not being a Russian himself
surrounded by non-Russians was willing to do
whatever it took
to take power
so again foreign
correspondence talk about this at great length.
It wasn't until
March in 1918 that they changed their name to
the Bolsheviks,
but the more they put its agenda
into practice,
the more they were hated.
And then
that very same month, November of 1917,
they took over the urban
factories, workshops,
everything, anything that produced anything
in Petrograd and Moscow.
And the economy
in the meantime had collapsed entirely.
supported only by Western assistant.
So you had left-wing opposition, you had right-wing opposition,
but since Wall Street had already put its bet on the Bolsheviks,
as at least the most, I mean, even said,
Lloyd George said that Trotsky was the only statesman in Russia.
And one of the things that the left eventually disagreed on vehemently
was the peace treaty, a separate peace treaty, in 1918 with the central powers.
And, you know, Trotsky was against it.
Lennon wasn't in favor of it.
But he knew that if he was going to take over, he needed to engage in tremendous repression.
You know, Lennon, you know, it's common to hear that Lennon promised the destruction of the landlords and land given to peasants.
The only problem is, is that by the start of the country,
of World War I, 95% of the peasantry owned their own land.
Landlords meant the peasants themselves.
The decree on land, all land was immediately declared state property.
So whatever the peasants received, the ones smaller than what they had before,
and they were users never owned it.
I mean, they rejected private property, so I'm not sure how they could promise anyone
their own plot of land.
By definition, it's a lie.
Zaris, Russia was a prosperous place.
Now, of course, they're dealing with shortages of absolutely everything.
These are revolutionaries.
They have no idea how to run a country.
The Jewish run, something called the Breadfront, a war against the peasantry, starting in November of 1917.
In 1918, it became the food and requisition army to take so-called surplus food.
And that's when private trade was declared a crime, punishable by death.
by the way. There were guard outposts everywhere.
This is, you know, this is at the beginning of the so-called Red Terror.
And it really never ended.
To a great extent, the Civil War never ended because there was never, up until World War II,
there was never a time where there wasn't peasant revolts happening everywhere.
The point being that power over food means power over everything.
Lenin calls this the security of any socialist transformation.
He always used mystification.
You can never take him at his word since he's using a very different vocabulary, and it's designed to fool people.
It's meant to be deceptive.
But the so-called food army had the mandate to confiscate property, take hostages, which, by the way, during Civil War was a very important way of controlling parts of the country, and, of course, to shoot any,
resistance. That's also part of his socialist transformation. And we have him, for example,
his encyclical to Sadatov explicitly says to shoot anyone who opposes him, to round up
the so-called Kulaks, which could be anybody. And of course, taking hostages was extremely
important. And it kind of is the apogee of all leftist revolutions that came before. And I'd be
remiss if I didn't mention the committees of the poor which was a rhetorical concoction
where you took the poorest in other words people who couldn't work the mentally ill
you know brigands whatever it was and they they had the right to then take whatever they
wanted in the name of the of the Soviet government so um but and this is the reason that
the Russian Civil War began and why it it became as expansive
as it was
in 1918 even the checker
says
245 major
counter-revolutionary demonstrations were recorded
just in 20 provinces of central Russia
I mentioned the Cossacks already
the entire Don region had revolted
but 1919
every plus except those two cities
the two main cities
had revolts against the red
there were both leftist results and rightest results
including members of the white army
they weren't all right wing now
huge
revolt against these policies
in Siberia
that never really had any kind of serfdom
and central Russia too
and one of the ways that the Soviets defeated this
was by the use of
of poison gas
now I don't know if gas had been banned by then
was obviously used in World War I
and the Red Army from Trotsky on down
these aren't really military men
these were revolutionaries
they knew how to operate a guerrilla war
revolutionary war but not how to run a normal war
the peasants were armed
and the white forces never quite
made the connections
with the peasant revolts that they
that they should have
the use of poison gasworth was never
done by the whites was done by the Reds on a regular basis but these peasant
revolts they didn't have the supplies the whites never had the supplies they never
had a common leadership they didn't have a coherent goal other than some vague
kind of agrarianism I don't know I guess I guess the latest number is like
25% of the peasants participated in the uprisings in the entire country and
And maybe 0.8% of the population, half million people, were active in terms of imposing communist policies on the country's side.
And then, of course, the Constitution written by, you know, Lenin and his friends, adopted in 1918, was also just justification for terrorism since anyone they didn't like was called a non-laboring class, non-laboring group, which of course included the clergy.
and any peasant that was doing fairly well.
You know, about 5 million peasants hire at least one worker at harvest time.
And remember, the deprivation of rights wasn't just to the person, but all their family members.
And it also meant the deprivation of food rations.
The Soviets were able, at least in the big cities, to put them on rations.
And, of course, they couldn't be educated or anything else.
So the Constitution, which, you know, they followed when it was in their interest.
it removed the very concept of personal guilt.
Now it's collective guilt and collective punishment.
So the head of the Petrochekka, Moses Yuritsky,
was killed by one of these moderate social revolutionaries,
and London was actually wounded that very same day.
So that gave him the excuse to increase the level of terrorism.
Any Bolshevik that's killed, a bunch of hostages will be automatically shot.
And that was renewed again in February of 1990.
This is also the origin of the Gulag system, which was built with Western money and expertise,
since the Soviets had none of their own at the time.
Remember, the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
Some people will claim that the Gulag system was already in existence with the Tsar.
Well, then they're idiots.
There were no, prisons were monasteries in most of imperial, imperial Russia.
If you were sent to Siberia, you were lodged in a private house.
And they all escaped one time or another.
Just you had to walk quite a ways to escape.
There were no bars or anything like that.
There certainly was no, anything like a systematic prison system.
You had, you know, Peter and Paul Fortress.
These were used on occasion, especially, you know, just before the war.
but um but there was no such thing as a labor camp uh in the in the czarist era and some monarchists
actually fault him for that he didn't take strong enough measures uh and not really actually
you know underestimating his his um his opposition so uh that would if anyone would hold that
view is, you know,
knows nothing since
nothing like that existed. It was a very
modern, very
you know, the whole concept of a
systemic series of camps
integrated with the
economy and staffed
by, you know, whoever was
unlucky enough to be arrested,
that was a Soviet creation.
And it didn't end with the so-called
victory in the Civil War in 1922.
He
continued.
He said this, Lenin says this to the People's Commissar of Justice, that we have to expand the use of executions and murder without any apology, without any embellishment, and make the causes for execution to be as broad as humanly possible.
And the broader point here is that it proves that Lenin, Trotky, Stalin did not differ, really in any respect, not ideologically, not in terms of policy.
The only difference is that Stalin had more cancer at his disposal and had full control over the country, for the most part, where Lenin did not.
And the very fact that Lenin regularly used terror, I mean, it was a normal policy tool, especially after the murder of Yuritsky.
terror became day-to-day and that includes the the camp system and they weren't they
weren't shy about this or shying about it and the western press didn't say a word about it all three
men used terrorism purges the gulag system it was a normal part of soviet Marxism from the
second they took over Stalin continued the same policies but he thanks to western especially
American investment, had an industrial economy eventually to work with.
So, you know, again, that's a very brief summary of these things, but obviously the situation
is far more complex than those people realize.
Well, I think most people would think that this happened because they wanted to, you know,
institute communism as far, much like Marx said, you have a dictatorship of the
proletariat, takes you into the workers' paradise. But they never had that plan at all in place.
So what was their plan? What was their main motivation? I mean, they had no problem killing
thousands and tens of thousands. They had no problem of just exterminating whole groups. So what was
the whole goal of all this? Why were they doing this? Well, this is,
Answering this question is part of why I wrote the Soviet experiment because they had no interest in labor except rhetorically.
They redefined the word worker however they wanted a proletarian however they wanted.
It ultimately was to collect the entire wealth of the Russian Empire in the hands of the party.
And you have to have all the wealth in your possession if you're going to centrally plan the economy.
and after the NEP was outlawed, so was any kind of profit.
So, and then the Jewish agents sent that to the USA.
The close, you know, the state and revolution is the place to go to see his basic agenda.
Karl Marx refused to talk about what the future society would look like, which is very suspicious.
you know they were certainly Marxists they put Marx into practice as best as best they can
so it's extremely important to note that that again they use the rhetoric but certainly
never explained how the well-rounded man of the Marxist utopia could ever be created by
violent revolution and the rule of the party you know doing away with a division of labor
doing away with with money to have a man expert in all important feelings
He doesn't explain how this is going to be done.
They didn't try to make it.
I suppose they could just change the definition of terms, and so they could create a workable consensus just through authoritarian control.
This is exactly what they did, and it was completely lawless.
Lenin refers to the narrow horizon of bourgeois law.
In other words, the party is the law.
And it's important to note that they wanted to make believe that they were opposed by the Western world, and they knew very well.
Both Trotsky-Inland knew very well that they were financed by this same Western world, that the so-called Red Cross mission was a cover for the British and the American Wall Street type.
and they knew that they weren't going to be called into account.
They knew they were going to be covered for.
And that they considered the profits eventually that they made in the USSR
as their payback for supporting them.
And this way Germany could never rearm itself.
It's one of the reasons they also built a strong Poland.
And Germany can never rearm themselves.
It's the only reason that they really cared about this.
and as far as a unified front only the Bolsheviks had it
and no one ever talked about the
uprisings in throughout the entire country
and you know that was nothing
you know nothing mentioned about that
the elections existed but were completely
phony
and their war was against Russia itself
remember both Marx and
as well as a few other revolutionaries like Moses Hess went on and on and on about how evil the Slavs were, not leadership, but Slavs in general.
And that even Engels said that the revolution is partially aimed at Russia and Eastern Europe.
So long as Russia exists, you can't have, in the royalist form, you can't have a global revolution.
They said this over and over again.
even Lenin used phrases like Russian fools or half barbarians or or whatever and the excuse was that they said that the you know Russian workers were didn't have the proper Marxist consciousness because either they were too stupid or they needed to be dominated somehow which of course is exactly what happened you know the terrorism was justified in that they're building a new a new man and you know
the only thing it really came out of it
is corpses. The only thing they were produced
properly. The economy was never stable
and every
screw in that industry, and any
industry that the Soviets had came from the West.
You know, GE
laid out their electrical grid,
Ford, and Henry Ford personally,
invested in eastern Ukraine where the entire
Soviet automotive industry came from.
Even the organization of the Gulag
a military apparatus completely built by a western capital, but eventually they took it over and added their own spin to it.
There was no one in the USSR in the early years that had this sort of expertise.
They were either dead or in exile or just refusing to be a part of it.
Russia, even the word Russian was generally prohibited in public life until the end of the 1930s.
the head of the Communist Institute of History, and then Pukroski was the head of that.
He created the so-called writing of Soviet history in the 1920s.
Even the phrase Russian history, according to him, was a counter-revolutionary idea.
And in my various papers, I've listed all the place names that they change from Russian names to local names.
Petrov's port for example
was changed
Verlini was changed to Almaata
Removing Russian names
This should just sound pretty familiar
Libraries were completely purged
And as both Lenin and Stalin believed
That there will be a global language
And they'll use Latin letters
In this global language
In fact they created a new alphabet
The All Union Central Committee
Of the new alphabet
that actually existed.
So, and this is temporary.
They never went back,
but somehow trying to please local nationalists
was the way to get them to support Bolshevism.
The minute they did so,
they were incorporated into the USSR
and totally denationalized.
Lenin, just like Marx and Engels before him,
realized that only a denationalized worker,
he can't have any ties
to the land or to the nation.
nation or to religion, because this was a totalitarian project where every aspect of human
life can be regulated by the state via the action and policy of the party.
So there was a whole lot of things going on here.
It was, you know, a Jewish hatred of all things Roman.
This was a Jewish revolution to a great extent.
It was to concentrate all the wealth of the empire into their hands.
it was creating a new man
and to use a mechanized empire
to destroy really the only counter-revolutionary force they saw
in the world after World War I, which was Russia.
And things have gone steadily downhill since.
In the time of 1918 to 1920,
I know that it would be very hard to answer this question accurately.
How many Russians do you think they killed?
Well, even in the de-stallonization campaign under crucial shift, during the civil war,
you see, it's hard to tell in a civil war who died from combat and who died from, for political reasons.
Of course, you have, you know, anywhere between a half million and a million combat deaths.
but of course this was an era of tremendous excess mortality because World War I had just ended.
But the camps were stuffed pretty early because everyone, including a lot of their leftist supporters, were considered unreliable.
Lenin always thought that quality and focus is far more important, it's a very Jewish idea, than having a lot of member.
You know, so you're talking about at least six figures.
By the end of Stalin's era, you're talking about, you know, seven figures.
And as Stalin said, you know, one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic,
meaning it's easier to swallow the concept of a million people killed than someone you know being killed.
I know that in any kind of revolution such as this was going to be,
the church would have to be eradicated.
Was there something personal about the Russian Orthodox Church that they,
something that they took personally that caused them to do what they did?
Yeah, this is the church that refused to make peace with jury.
And it's part of the reason why Slavs, and by that they largely mean Russians and Serbs,
were targeted.
And the Russian people, not, you know, not leadership, but the Russian people themselves were the target of destruction.
Marx and Engels called for this.
Merciless terror, as Engels called, the same thing occurred in Hungary.
In that case, the party was almost 100% Jewish.
And I have all the leadership names in a separate paper.
There were no Hungarians in the Hungarian Soviet takeover.
But you have, yeah, there's a whole as a church is concerned.
It's one of the proof that this is a Jewish movement
that under Lenin and the early Stalin,
the church was absolutely decimated.
The church is what animated the monarchy,
which in turn was the bulwark to revolution everywhere.
You know, even using Slavs against, like, say,
the Austrian monarchy was against their,
their policy. Slavs were targeted, therefore orthodoxy was targeted. It's an alternative source of loyalty and absolutely, you know, Marx was a materialist. He was a Darwinian and he used Darwin quite a bit as did Engels, as did as did Lenin. Don't forget, Marx was on the side of the Western aggression against Russia during the Crimean War. They were opposed to any anti-war movement. That was going on. The fact that
you have a starving population, a collapsed economy, and very little hope for the future in 1918,
their number one priority is to destroy the church.
Yes, this was a hatred.
The Jews despise the Russian monarchy, and they despise the church.
This was a militant, large, growing, and very powerful empire under the monarchy
that would not give in to the demands of the Jews like the British had done.
and so when they took over they started this this slaughter that went on
Stalin did not mitigate it that's another myth I have written written about
elsewhere there was this war it wasn't much left and then he created his own kind of
pet church in 1943 with a few bishops that were in prison and ended up being the
so-called Soviet church so yeah of course
it was personal it was it was ethnic
Russian orthodoxy was the number one threat
as far as the Jews were concerned
90% of whom
I shouldn't say that maybe 80%
of jewelry was
was from the east
so you know we talked
about the pogroms the last time
we talked about the mythology
there
Lenin
because of
of the constant accusation
this is the Jewish movement he
banned any reference to it. The so-called anti-Semitic legislation. People were in the
gulag for this kind of thing. Lenin fully admitted the Jewish nature of the revolution.
He mentioned it over and over again. There was no denying. You could list all the names. There's
nothing you could do about it. And of course, anything the Soviet government did, especially
in this era, has to be laid at the feet of those who ran it. And these were, they weren't
even Russian Jew, as I mentioned before.
Robert Wilton and so many
others, the Dutch ambassador, the French
ambassador, they all
say this over and over
again, and their number
one target, even before the economy,
will be the destruction of
the church.
I think a lot of people would be able to
wrap their heads around
the kind of evil that they
perpetrated.
If there was
some
If there were some kind of practical, ideological, something like that, it just seems, it's hard for a lot of people to look at this and try to even begin to rationalize it when it's just complete violence.
I mean, and, you know, I come, I bring it forward to, you know, the thing that I, I like to study a lot is the Spanish Civil War.
and what they did to priests and nuns and seminarians and churches, looking in from the
outside, I don't even think people take it seriously because it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't even seem real to most people, you know, that they would burn down 6,000 churches,
that they would execute priests in the street, you know, in the thousands.
As human beings, as, I don't want to say human beings, as Christians, how do we
we even look at this kind of violence and how do we try to rationalize anything and try to
understand anything about what they did well with the fall of the third rome rome itself was
removed from the equation and in the ancient church it was fully understood you even see this
in in the apocalypse that once the restrainer that is to say the emperor uh will be murdered
destroyed removed the end will begin and you know god may extend the period of time of history
post rome uh for the sake of our repentance but it's going to be a time of suffering how long it will
be i don't know if we're not in the time the early period of antichrist's rule then
you know it'll never happen um everything that even the fathers who barely had a vocabulary
for this kind of thing said what happened is happening not just locally but for the first time
on an absolutely global scale whether we like it or not this is a time of suffering this is a time
of martyrdom clearly you have an entire class of russian new martyrs which are those men
slaughtered by the communists from 1917 right up until the late 70s and the gulag was never taken down
except eventually near the end of Gorbachev's rule.
We talked about the pogroms last time.
I mentioned that again, because so many of these were restarted by Jewish attacks on religious processions.
The idealism, the authority over our decisions that comes from the existence of God, Logos, natural law in the church,
is absolutely intolerable. The revolutionary creed is that they're going to create a new man
because they assume that man has no human nature. It's up to them to create it. The old
Kabbalistic Tukun alam, which most of your listeners I know realize what that is, the healing
of the world, taking the sparks in the Kabbalah at creation and gathering together all of this
light in the proper vessels. And that proper vessel is jewelry.
By definition
That's why I quote
Moses has to a lot of these guys
And that's the nature
Of the Chabad movement right now
I know I can't do the guttural sound
But everyone knows what I'm talking about
This even when they took over the Winter Palace
The Bolsheviks destroyed everything inside
They wipe feces on things
You know it was it was almost a
A form of possession
They didn't just kill
Zarnikoulis in a ritual
They slaughtered the whole family
And all their servants
sexually molested the girl
and God knows what else they did
and it took a long time for them to die
this was considered then and now
the Russian church as a redemptive sacrifice
almost an imitation of Christ's sacrifice
at the fall of Rome
the day that the czar was murdered
is the beginning of the end
and that's one way
and in fact I think the most important and patristic way
to look at these kind of events
yeah yeah well when you look forward from the from the revolution revolutions was it really ever
really a revolution really wasn't it a civil war wasn't it just a civil war being a struggle
over who gets to control the power of a of the government well that would be nice if they
just left it at the government no a revolution it's not just a change in government
Calling it the American Revolution is a big mistake.
The nature of a revolution implies turning everything on its head, and I mean everything, the nature of what it is to be human.
The family, sexuality, the church, the banning of anything spiritual, mechanization of all things, the creation of a brand new earth.
I mean, Christ promised new heavens and a new earth in the Old Testament.
This is a new heavens and a new earth by mass party creation.
mechanistic method.
It's the inversion of everything.
The spirit is not superior to matter.
Matter destroys spirit.
Everything is turned on its head.
Inversion is the key issue.
That there is not a single human relationship
that doesn't come under the control of the party
as much as humanly possible.
So to completely uproot the old society,
I mean, no one did it as thoroughgoing
as Mao and Pol Pot, which was their explicit agenda.
And the use of terror is a part of that, to completely disorient people, to make them suggestible, to make them fearful, looking for any kind of a savior, but certainly not in Christ.
Not to mention the fact, it's not a materialist ideology, obviously, and it's an alternative source of loyalty.
That's what a revolution is.
The complete inversion and complete remaking of all social relationships.
just a change in government, everyone would have been much better off.
When Stalin finally takes over, what is the change there?
Because even more so, it seems, than Lenin and Trotsky, who eventually, Lenin dies,
Trosky gets, falls out of favor with Stalin.
When it gets into the point where Stalin is doing his purges and he's even purging the people close to him,
But what is he trying to do at that point?
What is he trying to create at that point?
Well, as I said in the beginning, as I say in my book on the topic, ideologically, and even at the level of tactics, there is no substantial difference among Lenin, Trotkin, Stalin.
They just had different tools at their disposal.
Stalin ruled after the Civil War was over, and for the most part, the peasantry.
country having been slaughtered in huge numbers. Now, the deliberate famines throughout the reign of Lenin
in early Stalin, you're talking about, you know, five million people, which was, you know,
they were living on Western aid anyway, Western food aid. So it really didn't matter whether they
had food or not. They only really cared about the cities. Lenin's goal, of course, was to create
one, the world would be one big factory that would mechanize agriculture. Everything would be
like the mechanized city everything would be turned into a factory everything would be
dedicated to completely transforming nature that's why it's a totalitarian system nothing can be
outside of the of an agenda like that there is no area you know if you're a materialist you
can't believe in free will because matter is just cause and effect it's certainly uh you know
to believe in free will by definition you have to think that the human consciousness um is
immaterial or else there is no no freedom and when you
reduce human beings to just matter in motion, then who cares if you kill a lot of them?
If that's all they are, then there's nothing special about them.
They could produce machines, and that's pretty much about it.
If they're not involved in that, then there's no reason for them to be around.
And again, St. Tikon in his writings against this system during the Civil War, which had become
silent by the time of Stalin, so few people were left.
the exile organization continued to put out materials on as to what's going on.
They supported Hitler's invasion, obviously, since anything was better than that.
The difference really with Stalin is that he already had a pacified country.
Industrialization was in its infancy there.
It had occurred under the czar.
It was industrializing rapidly.
And then bringing in Western, especially British, German and American investment to
build the industrial base of the country, the heavy industry necessary for any, you know,
worldwide factory to create a far more totalitarian and efficient state than ever before.
You know, the Bolsheviks didn't really matter except in Petersburg and Moscow.
The countryside, you know, that had to be pacified and that took a very long time.
And again, more peasants were starved to extract every bit of value.
from the food that they grow to feed the machines to feed the the cities because that was the
nucleus of revolution not the the countryside you had some old so social revolutionaries
in the late 19th century early 20th century who believed that the peasantry can create a new communal
way of life which of course they already had it just had to be on an atheist basis not on
on the old christian basis you had labor cooperatives all throughout czarist russia the artel
system is a local union wherever you know the tools are shared and this all existed long
before and these are the first things that the bolsviks destroyed the all this stuff was already
happening it was already developing rapidly um by the time the the marches took over but
Stalin was able to rebuild it on a new basis with foreign money everything about the bolsheviks
was foreign I mean that's all you have when you don't have that many real supporters but by the
1930s, you had a lot of opportunists and careerists realizing that I'd better join the party
or at least say I like them or else I'm not going to be able to get a job, which of course
was true.
No one wants to sacrifice themselves for this if they think it's, you know, the rule of the
communists is inevitable.
So Stalin, it was just a matter of degree.
It was just, you know, he had the beginnings of a mechanized infrastructure to work with,
which makes persecution much much easier.
Can you, I know you have a hard out, but can you take a couple minutes to go over something that you talked about at the end of the pogroms episode was, and you already started talking about it, was the fact that they, they couldn't, they didn't have anybody who could do anything.
So everything had to be done by the West.
Like, can you remind everybody who, their automobile manufacturing, their oil refining, everything that they were doing, who was, who was helping with this?
and, you know, why this isn't when people, when a lot of communists today, people who call themselves
communists from their iPhone, say that that wasn't real communism, why it really wasn't real
communism, it was just some, I mean, maybe it was, maybe, you know, as I've argued, I've argued before,
maybe this is what they're doing is the only way, the only thing you can ever call communism is this
is what it's going to look like, but can you talk about how they just couldn't, they had to
basically import everything, even manufacturing? Yeah, I mean, you had a manufacturing base in
the, in the Tsar's empire. And it was growing, very much like the German industry was growing
rapidly. And for the most part, they were trading with each other. Oil was discovered in,
you know, what we call Azerbaijan today. The only reason the British,
British ever intervened during the Russian Civil War in the South was to secure these oil fields.
Certainly had nothing to do with the Reds.
You know, the Reds were really a tool in their hands.
I discovered this through the work of Anthony Sutton, in particular, a book published
by the Hoover Institution, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development from 1945 to
1965.
And then his other one, technological treason, a catalog of U.S. firms with Soviet contracts
from 1917 to 1982.
And in all of this, you have major firms.
The two that I use all the time is GE for the electrification, which was a Stalinist thing.
You had a major mining company in Alaska, whose name I can't remember off the top of my head,
who laid out their, well, the mining was very important.
important, Neuro Mountains.
Henry Ford built
the largest truck plant in the world near
Kharkiv and the extreme
eastern Ukraine.
And as Sutton
lays out, you have weapons manufacturers
in Germany, in Britain,
and in the U.S. building
their
army.
It all comes from the West.
They did at one time have a substantial
workforce in certain
places for industry, but that was all gone.
Nothing was functioning. The Soviets had no
idea how to run anything.
They were professional revolutionaries.
The only choice thing.
But the fact that this Western
building of the U.S.S.R completely destroys
the whole narrative of the 20th century.
The fact that the
whites were never, ever
assisted by the Western powers.
And in fact,
the Reds were. And sometimes people
in the middle.
But the whites suffered from
lack of supplies because the West
and eventually Coltrak
Danikin had to admit this right in their memoirs
they said they said we didn't get a bullet
our supplies came from what we were able to
capture from
the Bolsheviks
now as far as military
assistance throughout
the Soviet
era including after the after World War II
Sutton also in 1973
he published national suicide
military aid to the Soviet Union
the Red Army was
built in the West.
So the major
companies saw
the Bolshevik Revolution as opening
up a new market.
One of the biggest markets, one of the biggest
trophies, Lord George
used to say, was
whoever was able to pry open
the Russian market.
And they took advantage
because they financed
the Bolsheviks.
Once they took over,
they wanted their payback, and that was
in this kind of
in this kind of profit
so you know
the West intellectuals people like
you know Herbert George Wells
saw thanks to bias press coverage
you know this is you know the Soviet system
is is the future
a totally administered state
a totally administered society
this is this is how we're going to rationalize everything
on the model of behavioralist
psychology
Oh my God, even in the early 20s, the starvation had already set in, President Hoover and the American Relief Administration organized the import of vast qualities of food.
But they were also exporting wheat in order to earn money for, you know, German revolutionaries.
You can't claim to be opposed to Bolivism while you're financing it.
And that was just the very beginning.
Avril Harriman during World War II, he talked about, you know, Stalin admitting and paying tribute to the assistance rendered by the U.S. before and during the war.
Stalin and Harriman both said that about two-thirds of the large industrial enterprises and the U.S.S.R had been built with United States help, financing, or technical assistance.
and that was a direct quote actually
I got straight out of the
out of the Sutton book
you know then and now
you go in as a university as a Bolshevik
you're celebrating
national solicit a very different
kind of reception
but because of all of this
because of the
Western investment
what still isn't
well known
everything about the 20th century history
is, has to be completely revised.
And, you know, I could go on.
In fact, I have a couple of papers.
Actually, in the book, in the Soviet experiment,
I have a full list of all the major companies,
many of which are well known.
They're, you know, predecessors of Boeing and Northrop Grumman.
All of this, heavily invested, all kinds of infrastructure projects.
Like Stalin said, like Avril Harriman said,
maybe two-thirds came from the West and Western financing as one of the reasons
that they were able to win World War II, but it didn't stop afterwards.
There was never any sanctions on the USSR during the so-called Cold War.
Yeah, it never made sense to me when I was a kid that the first thing that Reagan did
when he got into office was lift the grain embargo on the Soviet Union.
I'm like, isn't that supposed to be, aren't, isn't that our enemy?
What are we doing?
Yeah. Well, it shows how much, how limited the president's power is.
Yeah, the embargo was very briefly put on the USSR for the same reason that the U.S. boycotted the Olympics in, what was that, 76, I think, under Jimmy Carter. It was for the invasion of Afghanistan.
Yeah, in 1980. Yeah, that was for the only point of that. It had nothing to do with they were.
You know, there were Marxists or anything else.
And to those people who say it's not real communism, then I'd say to them that, well, the society you live in isn't real capitalism either.
Anyone can say that.
Anyone can rationalize their failures by saying, oh, they didn't do it right.
And yet every time these governments come to power, including the one that rules the U.S. today, they do the exact same kind of things.
Using terror and surveillance is part and parcel of the left from the British Revolution straight on.
to today in the
postmodern revolution in the U.S. over the last 40
years. It's identical
in every case. They use the same
rhetoric. They use the same methods.
These days, of course, it's a lot more
refined and psychological.
It was a little cruder before.
But it was the same, you know, the Paris commune.
It was the same exact
method
and the same people behind it.
You know, so that the
Jewish left is the engine of
revolution. And
they are
ushering in this new era
to Kunalaam.
All right, remind
everybody where they can
find your work
and support you.
I'll make sure
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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano Show, Dr. Matthew Raphael, Johnson, Return.
How are you doing, Dr. Johnson?
I'm doing very well, my friend.
We're living in very depressing times, but despite all that, we're doing pretty well, both of us.
Yes, yes.
So I wanted to have you on because we, I think the first time we ever talked, we talked about Ukraine,
and I don't believe we have done anything since then.
And with the news of billions and billions more of money that could be closing the border,
and doing all sorts of things going there.
We need an update on what's going on over there.
So what are your thoughts on all this?
Well, for those of your listeners who don't know,
I'm an academic specialist in Russo-Ukrainian,
both history and to a lesser extent policy by politics and theology.
I have many, many books out on this topic.
So back in 2004, when the first foreign,
revolution happened i got this flurry of activity then 10 years later when my done occurred and then
since um 2022 when i went away my first day of my honeymoon the war broke out which didn't surprise me
it didn't surprise a lot of people and um keep in mind you know the the trilemma of counterinsurgency
which essentially was what what's happening in in ukraine that war was over as a conventional matter
by the summer of 22
they've been artificially maintained
not just by Putin's conservatism
here but by intelligence
and mercenaries and everything else that are shipped in
from the Western world
who now with the Israeli situation
can't even defend itself
American military equipment
has performed very poorly
tactics have been switched by the Ukrainian side
back to the Soviet models
which most of them
most of the officers anyway
were trained in
and I have this from mercenaries personally
that the American way over there
war does not work
they could send all the weapons in the universe over there
and it doesn't matter because
being trained on these things requires a lot of translators
people aren't even asking
how many people know how to work this stuff
not only that but how to integrate it
with the rest of the strategy
which may or may not actually exist
a unified command structure
was destroyed last year
no one knows what's going on what's going on now don't forget the war is taking place in russian areas
these are russian speaking areas in the east that voted over and over again to leave ukraine
which now is a fourth world backwater it would have been a fourth world backwater regardless
of whether there was a war or not this is something up and following since you know i started in the
early 90s um but the trilemma of counterinsurgency is that you there's three ingredients you want to
maximize the damage done to your opponent and you want to minimize both your own military casualties
and civilian casualties. The problem is you can never have all three at once. So Putin decided
to eliminate the first one. He wanted to minimize his own casualties and certainly civilian
casualties, since they were all Russians to begin with. And unfortunately, it meant that he had
to sacrifice maximal damage to his opponent. That more recently.
has changed.
Ukraine has been depopulated.
No one knows Ukraine like the Russians do.
Most of the capital there is Russian anyway.
And it's been painful as a specialist
in these areas to listen to these media
morons start talking about these places
and things that they just discovered yesterday
as these authoritative figures.
So, but so other than that,
the aid to Ukraine bill and the entire funding issue was front page news for a while and this program at least in part as you mentioned should be on the aid thing a country that doesn't have money that for the first time has the majority of its budget going to interest payments on the debt and is being invaded by a hostile guerrilla army from the south and the north too strangely you know
and is cutting back on everything from health care on down but sending hundreds of billions
to a war that can't be won, the purpose of which solely was to weaken Russia because Russia,
as I said in the 90s, was the only self-s a nation who is completely self-sufficient
and has the population, military tradition, and the economy to stand on its own against what we used to call the New World Order.
Of course, now it's the Great Reset with their Chinese and Central Asian ally.
I also want you to keep in mind that this was never the case.
And if you don't mind me talking about this, I'm writing something here on a similar issue during the so-called Cold War, the aid to the Contras.
What suffering, Ronald Reagan had to go through, would he get even a few dollars?
to go to these people
despite the fact
it was right in the
backyard
what's the difference
between the hatred
the regime's
hatred of the contras
in the 1980s
in Nicaragua
or the El Salvador government
back then
and Ukraine today
and the only real difference
is ideology
I mean Reagan made this
a central plank of his program
the enemy was the USSR
the regime
and the Western world
was heavily invested
in the USSR
they vehemently opposed
any war against
everything from Vietnam
on down
the media
openly backed the kind of semi-soviet
or Cuban
Sandinista government
and had zero opposition
in the process for a handful of
conservatives so
so Reagan had to do this
secretly there's only one difference
between those two wars
and the one in Nicaragua
was anti-leftist
and the one in Ukraine
is anti-Russian
in this case
Russia is seen as a
more or less right wing power
it's a bit more complicated than that
but I think you know what I'm talking
about
he did get a few million dollars
through
the Congress and remember this is before the web
before everything else
it was really hard to contradict these people
I have a book on Latin America
the military dictators there
which aren't really too relevant here
but all this make believe information
about how evil the conscious were
nothing of course by the corruption of Ukraine
and of course they passed the infamous
Boland amendment prohibiting certain
U.S. agencies from giving aid to the Contras
Reagan of course was right
San Annaisa government was a satellite of Cuba
and hence of the USSR instigating revolution
all over Central America in particular
and the regime then created the Iran Contra scandal
complete with no reference to the
this was an entirely Israeli operation relative to the Iran-Iraq war.
So you have to ask yourself the crap that Reagan took for trying to support the contras
against Cuban revolutionaries in the early 80s and the fact that there really is no opposition
to the support of the fourth world Ukrainian state, which is a colony of the U.S.,
against Russia. They are night and day. And I'm saying,
that's the reason for it it's ideology ideology has always been the dominant issue uh with the regime
because ideology i mean the regime is a leftist force more or less um an oligarchy versus some
kind of a soviet top down thing course this is also a top down thing i have another paper on
the similarities at the fundamental level between marxism not socialism but marxism and postmodern
capitalism. It's based on the same set of assumptions. So that's the first thing back in
22, the first thing, or even years earlier, that struck me. And even I have something out on Joe
Biden back in, I think it was either 72 or 74, went over to the USSR with Richard Lugar
of Indiana and the respect that he showed Soviet leaders versus what he, what he, how he talks about
Putin today.
In other words, the U.S. was far more sympathetic to the USSR than has been, if the Cold War
was a real thing, that would have been going on then.
The only time he had some traction was when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, but that was
late in their career.
The difference between the Contra issue and the Ukraine issue, the difference has to be
explained.
I'm the only one who's explaining it, and the difference is in ideology.
One was an anti-rightist thing, the other is an anti-leftist thing.
When you really start nailing down, I was thinking about when you were talking about how they supported the USSR, it was the joke they came out a bunch of years ago about how the left really hated Russia now because they gave up on communism.
Let's take it in this direction.
Okay, so the USSR falls, you know, choices.
were made. You know, Pap Buchanan was like, hey, we just got to concentrate on being, uh, being that
shining city on a hill now, but no, uh, the neoconservatives wanted to go in a, you know, wanted to
keep it going. We need to find a new enemy to slay. And, uh, obviously the first one
was Iraq. But, um, this is, and you know, we've talked about this before. You've talked about it on
the show is this is a, a Jewish operation. And the ideology, the ideology there.
is that if it's going to be anti-right wing, it's usually going to come from them, from World War II, the authoritarian personality by the Frankfurt School, all of these things that just destroy the right, anything that's the right needs to be destroyed.
Well, Hitler's defeat was the approximate cause of all this, where nationalism and its various guises, not fascism as such, but nationalism and its various guises, now was.
considered irrelevant the world was divided between Truman and and Stalin and that's
simply how the planet was was governed USSR was internationalist it was materialist
it was obviously secular it put its faith in production and science it used a
politicized psychiatry it it was at war with with nationalism the there
regime cross borders back then. It was essentially one in the same empire. Now, of course,
at the fringes, when the Soviet empire got way too big, especially over the Chinese issue,
you did have some warfare, but it was highly limited and nothing like we're looking at today.
But today's Russian Federation, under Vladimir Putin, starting in 2001, started preaching
something very different. That was a nationalist. And in many cases, a royalist, so-called Eurasianist
world order, something that undercut the very foundational ontology of Western capitalism.
Capitalism, Marxism, had the same foundation.
They were, you know, essentially brother and sister.
Any empire that grew as large as a communist one was going to be opposed.
I don't care what ideology it had.
The ideology wasn't the problem there.
It was the fact that they may get into a position where they can cut out the U.S. from trade deals.
But that's exactly what the Russian Federation today is preaching.
And this is why there's this huge difference in the treatment of, say, the contras that they're in the 80s and Ukraine today.
The fact that the Americans are willing to go so far as to totally undercut their own ability to defend themselves and even get the U.S. involved in a major war, not just in Middle East, but East Africa and Central.
Central Asia over Israel and all of Eastern Europe as far as Ukraine is concerned taking on a country that's much better off economically and culturally than the U.S. is in the Russian Federation going that far, wanting to go that far to undercut their own, to spend money they don't have, to continue to demand that the Ukrainians, you know, the democracy fight to the last.
Ukrainian
that they're depopulating
that entire country
which is a tragedy
and you want to bring in
the Jewish element
Jews hated Ukraine
as much as they hated Russia
and for very similar
they hated the Cossacks of Ukraine
they hated the monarchy
of Russia they win either way here
Russian casualties have been very low
that's a matter of deliberate choice
but the descendants of the Cossacks
get depopulated
anti-Jewish ideas are mainstream, both in Russia and in Ukraine, especially in Ukraine,
especially in Ukraine. Making that is more obnoxious. You have a Jewish president installed.
No one ever heard of him before. He gets installed in power and starts shutting down any.
I mean, he's an internationalist. These aren't neo-Nazis or fascists. They wouldn't be supporting this.
If they were really that, they wouldn't be supporting this regime. And they are serving its interests.
you know we're going to fight the the russians to become a part of the european union
i mean no real nationalist group is going to talk like that but that's exactly what we're
supposed to believe is it's going on here and it irritates me when they call them neo-nazies
or something like that now if they were neo-nazi they wouldn't be doing what they were doing
it's a jewish regime shutting down the churches that have any connection with russia which
is all of them except for um you know the the nationally based uh so-called or but even the
thought a cephalists were consecrated by Russians in many in many respects and that that that line
doesn't really exist in Ukraine for the most part anyway so he shuts down all of the opposition
politicians closes the doors of all the parties all the think tanks that opposed them
shut down thousands of churches and monasteries says out loud that he's going to create a new
Israel in Ukraine we're going to borrow that kind of garrison mentality that they have in
Tel Aviv, and we're going to do the same here.
The state now controls everything, this forcible conscription now of women and old people.
Sometimes you're doing it violently, just dragging anybody, training them very poorly, and getting them killed, which is why the desertion issue is so huge.
And calling all of that democracy.
and of course the very simple answer is yes it is that is perfectly consistent with how the the regime
defines democracy and that is liberalism it's just an armed liberalism it's liberalism and power
that's exactly what the soviets are trying to do it's exactly what the u.s is doing now in a
different way but but using the same kind of institutions all this top-down stuff and in the meantime
and the media totally controlled.
Pro-Russian sources are totally banned in Europe.
I think you know.
You can't get RT in Europe now,
including in sympathetic states like Bulgaria.
The U.S. is, you ever wonder where the anti-war movement went?
Remember the anti-nuke movements in the 80s?
Where are they?
The U.S. is now bringing nuclear weapons and has been into Romania,
another place, Poland, without a peep of protest.
But if this happened 45 years ago,
You would have had all these leftists blocking traffic.
All of this stuff has to be explained.
I can't do everything by myself, but apparently, you know, I have to do it.
That these two things are so radically different, or so, you know, they're radically different in terms of American policy and why that is the case.
And to support this man who has a popularity rating of zero, if you could have a negative number,
He would have. No one trusts him. No one likes him. He doesn't know anything about politics. He went in as a comedian and just does what he's told. Ukraine is governed through the American embassy. Things have to be, everything that Ukraine does is rubber, you know, stamped approved by the U.S., whether military or civilian. There's no independent Ukrainian policy because there's no independent Ukraine. There are economic strength within the East, which is now completely.
gone. And all of this, terror attacks against civilians in Crimea and in the East, all of it perfectly
consistent with liberalism. It is the esoteria. This is liberalism totally exposed to the world.
They said the same thing about Israel, the world's greatest democracy in the Middle East,
forgetting Lebanon and Turkey, of course, the only democracy down there that would say.
But this, and he says, I'm going to build Israel here. I'm going to build a garrison state where there are soldiers in every
shopping mall and every supermarket
it's going to be a totally militarized
state he has completely
separated from reality
I think he believes his own press but he went
into this extremely ignorant
he was the perfect front man
he's like he's like Joe Biden
who no one elected
who doesn't know where he is most of the time
it was like Yeltsin in Russia in the 90s
you could tell him anything
the perfect front
leadership
and of course
that means domestically
tons of money being spent there
despite the fact that no one wants it spent there and they want control of the border which is never going to happen the American economy at the elite levels is heavily dependent on that cheap non-union labor coming in so that's that's just and that hasn't changed for a long time now this war is just to get one more step but the fact that the US is willing to go this far is something that the Russians can't understand they're saying
sacrificing their own security for the sake of supporting this clearly lost war.
And the only thing that they're getting out of it is a total depopulation of a one of the most educated and high tech countries in in Europe up until the 1990, not to mention the most fertile.
And it's the outrage and the ignorance of people who don't know the first thing about this stuff.
Bill Crystal's new
organization. This is just
Russia's coming for us. I don't know how many times
why would Russia be coming
for us unless of course the U.S. are making
it so. People
with no knowledge of international affairs
let alone knowledge of Eastern Europe
are making policy.
And I guess
I'm not sure of this, but I guess they believe that Russia's
getting ready to invade with the Chinese.
That's really the Republican line now.
They're going to come for us unless we stop them
here. Well, we're not
stopping them anywhere.
He's Ukrainian 15-year-old.
But they're not.
There's massive desertion at the front there.
They know that this war is over.
Russians are traveling outside of their turrets.
They don't have to worry about a sniper fire.
There's no supplies.
There's no ammunition.
There's no train crews anymore.
And just sending weapons is just a symbolic move.
It's like sanctions.
You could send Patriot missile batteries to Ghana if you want.
that doesn't mean that they're going to integrate it with their own military and have train crews ready and willing to use it it doesn't work that way it represents a certain culture there is no ability to integrate any of that stuff and it gets destroyed the minute it gets off the boat anyway they don't have the pilots they haven't trained pilots to fly these advanced military American pieces of hardware
we can imagine rookie pilots here they'd be they'd be slaughtered and that's exactly the point anything to create a war with the Russian Federation as the only thing standing in the way of the Great Reset.
If it wasn't all of the loss of life, it would be comical when they make statements like, oh, Ukraine, you know, Ukraine's going to win this because, you know, Russia is a paper tiger.
but then in the same breath, they'll be like Russia's going to invade Europe and take over Europe.
And they make no sense whatsoever.
That's why they have to bring the China thing into this.
And what is China's going to invade Europe?
What are these people even talking about?
I don't think that they're just relying upon the ignorance of the people anymore to believe this stuff.
I think that they have some brainwashed people out there who are going to repeat whatever line they say.
And then I think they just don't care anymore.
They just don't care.
I said in a little substack yesterday, but, you know, when I was growing up, there was this term that was applied to, quote, neo-Nazis and white supremacists and these patriot groups.
And now with everything that we've seen, where you can get the Speaker of the House of the representatives of the United States to go to some college on the Upper West Side of New York City, of Manhattan, and repeat lies, repeat Hasbara that's been debunked, you know, three, four months ago that we live in that term that was demonized back then.
We are a Zionist-occupied government, and there is to argue against that is just foolishness at this point.
I'm not even going to take you seriously because you're not in the game.
Well, you know what projection is as a psychological term.
It's a neurotic defense mechanism.
Of course, you're unaware of doing it where you can't handle and you can't even deal with the evil that you find in yourself.
So you project it, transfer it onto others.
And it's no accident that every single thing that the West says about Russia and China or both is 10 times more applicable to the United States.
This goes for every conflict.
And it's so perfect, there's such a one-to-one correlation that it can't be an accident.
So I've come to, especially my favorite, every few weeks there was one of the financial papers would say the Russian or the Chinese economy.
to collapse any day.
They've been saying that for 15 years.
No one gets in trouble for this.
No one's fired.
All their predictions are wrong about this kind of thing.
And it's because their own economies are on the verge of collapsing.
And somehow this notion that the world depends on the United States and that sanctions not only aren't hurting Russia, but helping them, is not something the American can comprehend.
But the evils of the regime are being removed from itself and projected onto an other, you know, in quotes, whether it be the Chinese or the Russians, which very few people know about, so then you could construct them in any way you want.
And that's how projection is working here, because you're dealing with public ignorance.
they can absolve themselves of their own sins by claiming that other countries, especially their enemies, are doing the same thing.
And it's such a bizarre thing to watch.
There has to be a psychological analysis of it.
You know, there's no legitimacy to these governments.
Well, you could say that about the West.
They've lost contact with their people.
Well, if anything is true about the West, it's that.
on and on and on
and that can't be an accident
this is a way that
I mean plenty of people in the regime
are sociopathic
they don't have a problem
they don't have to project because they don't care they have no connection
either with good or evil it's all the same to them
but for semi-normal people in that position
projection allows them to deal with the fact
that their policies are causing
the deaths from Iraq to now
of tens of millions of people
in the name of democracy
That has to be papered over in their brain in one way or another, and projection allows them to do it.
It's a very common thing, and it can be collective as well as personal.
And that kind of answers your question about what else other than public ignorance is being used here.
And to the point where every new article says something about Russia or China that I just finished arguing about the U.S.
there's no freedom of speech there they would say as Ukraine shuts down all opposition
no matter what they are you know etc etc and that's one of the ways that the regime can
continue to function mentally speaking and there's not enough work done in that in that regard
but it is too close a correlation for it to be anything else it is a collective psychosis
As far as on the ground goes in Ukraine, where does this go?
Yeah, you mentioned that they don't even have snipers,
that Russians can come out of their tanks and walk around.
I mean, what is it at this point?
What's Russia's goal at this point?
I guess that's probably a better question.
Where do you think Russia's goal?
What's Putin's goal at this point?
Russia's goal hasn't changed at all in a decade.
decade and a half, there was never any attempt to overthrow the Ukrainian government, which
is not really Ukrainian and is certainly not independent.
To get Russian-speaking areas out of that hellhole, you have no functional economy,
you have a worthless currency, the entire budget, all government offices are paid by American
aid.
It's like a real big Albanian.
you know um that's uh that's that's a main situation now salaries are being paid by the
by the american taxpayer um the goal is to protect russian speaking areas from this backwater
with you know 90% unemployment whatever it is um to make sure that kievs matter what happens
does not join nato and maintains a neutral point of view in terms of
of foreign policy and of course the previously very brisk and profitable trading in many things i mean
russian economy domestically maybe 10% of it uh is based on oil and gas that's far less than
norway or even canada um but but that's really been the goal from the beginning of course the media
said that he wants to conquer ukraine and every other place these are russian speakers for the
most part, in the eastern half, the country, who even if they weren't particularly pro-Russian
before, the economy that Kiev oversaw up until the start of this war made it impossible
for them to function.
And to maintain the rather constructive Russian presence in the east of Ukraine and in Crimea,
at the same time, American Ukrainian terrorist cells are blowing up dams, are destroying
sources of clean water. In other words, they're trying to slaughter them. If they were able to
take Crimea back, which of course is impossible, what would they do? No one wants them there.
There's a huge language barrier. If they're already engaging in terrorist acts against a
civilian population in eastern Ukraine and Crimea, what would they do if they actually occupied
place where these places are voting 97% to join the Russian Federation? Even if there was no war,
they would have very similar margins of victory because Ukraine doesn't have a functional economy.
It did at one point.
And as you know, Black Rock, who is one of the great pillars of the world rule, assuming some kind of a Kievan victory, which of course they can't assume anymore, has all the contracts ready to go for rebuilding Ukraine for their profit.
Ukrainians will have zero to do with any of this.
um and this is why you have thousands of guys risking death um to cross the river into into
romania and many other places you know this is just um um the the tease a river i should say
in particular uh mukchevo border um places like this this is why these young guys are going to
pay ten thousand dollars which is something where the average wage is like 250 a month to get
the heck out of the country.
Being dragged off
the street, you're 60 years old and you're dragged off
the street and handed a rifle. That's
precisely what's going on.
You send all the tanks you want, but if you don't
have trained and experienced crews
and a rational command structure, you don't have
anything. So what? They're destroyed
the minute they come down.
So
that's Russia's goals, and that's
the situation on the ground.
Supplies, ammunition is down to almost
nothing. Fuel has been a problem
for a long time. Of course, Russia has total air power, air supremacy. And the Russians have
been very careful. You know, some of the Ukrainian army tended to concentrate themselves in
eastern cities, which, of course, Russians could not dislodge them from without killing a lot
of civilians. And that's not an accident. But even that, you know, these guys don't want to be
where they are. Elite units are long gone. The volunteers are long gone. You have some stragglers.
What Russia is doing now is essentially a mob.
up operation and the U.S. just scuttled another peace deal, which would have given into
two Russian demands, which are very reasonable ones. And the U.S. said, no, you will never
surrender. So every death of this is on blood on the hands of the American politician, the banking
and the elite arms dealers from Boeing on down. The only part of the American economy except
porn that's growing.
I haven't talked to you since
this happened, so
let me get your take on this because
I mean, this was, I mean,
just the insanity
of it. The shooting
in Moscow, the
mass, the mass slaughter.
What was your
take on it? What do you know about it?
What can you tell us? Because it's already
out of the news. They made sure that
it's out of the news.
That was a Ukrainian
hit team using a group of people. It's been a little while since I even considered them from
Tajikistan, I think. Well, it was Central Asia somewhere. Yes, it was Tajik's probably trained in
Afghanistan. And the use of ISIS, you know, I have several lengthy papers proving without doubt
what ISIS is. It's an arm of the U.S. and Israeli military. And the proof of that is that they
only attack targets that are enemies of Israel or the U.S., Russia included.
There's no Palestinian group that believes that ISIS is a real organization, or, you know,
they're a real organization, but that they're anything other than a Mossad and CIA front.
Have they assisted the, here's an army that fought the Syrian, the advanced Syrian Arab army
to a standstill 10 years ago.
Are they doing anything against the Israelis?
No.
they had a fleet of oil tankers overnight you know so for them to say this is this is
ISIS well after I suppose if there's one target that I just would want to hit it would be the
Russians since they were the only ones who destroyed them and pushed them out of Syria
years ago with the Russian intervention there the Russians were invited the Americans are
illegal occupiers um the American
have no right to be in Ukraine either since they were involved in overthrowing the previous
government who the well highly imperfect was actually seeing some positive economic indicators
for the first time in a long time. So it's an act of terror because this is all Ukraine and the U.S.
have now. And of course when this happens, governments say, oh, the Russians are terrorist
organization. You know, the Revolutionary Guard course should be called the terrorist organization.
Well, of course, the Americans and the Israelis have been murdering their nuclear sciences for a decade.
Again, whatever they accuse Russia of their doing or Syria, whatever, whatever they accuse them of their doing themselves, the attacks on Crimea, the bridge, power, water, going to Crimea, parts of flooding parts of eastern Ukraine, this isn't exactly designed to win back hearts and minds.
they have no chance of that ever happening
it would be a massive genocide if they were ever able to take over
which was the point of the 2022 invasion in the first place
had the russians waited a few more days
the ukrainian army would have invaded nova russia dombas
and absorbed that capital at the you know black rock's behest
the americans being asked back into ukraine
and hence the western um the western
orbit but beyond that the russian economy is doing so well about 300 billion that um and it's very
unclear who owns at 300 billion that the the western world stole and wants to use for uh the ukraine
war um i talk about that at some length elsewhere um that's a rounding error as far as the
russian economy goes i'm not sure are these these they never make it clear are these state
funds are their oligarchs who you know um it doesn't seem to bother the russians very much at all
that's actually kind of hard to do i think it's more symbolic than anything else but now
as far as the third world is concerned which is growing by leaps and bounds thanks to bricks
no one's going to trust any of their money in an american backed or or nato-eu-baked account
because the minute you irritate them they could take all your cancer to the russian and that just
did that you know that so that dissuades them from that as
the Russians are actively, with the Chinese, recreating the world order based on regional nationalism, ethnic nationalism, civilizational forms rather than one abstract global economy.
Internationalism in the best sense of the word, meaning interlocking nations that are presumed to exist and are good things versus globalism, which is just abstract cosmopolitanism, which is acultural and essentially zombollah.
of, of everyone.
It's no accident that the Israelis always like to beam pornography into both the Gaza's
trip in the West Bank.
They've been doing that for a very long time.
Now, why would they be doing that?
It's not to liberate these people from the shackles of their, you know, Islamic
religion.
It's to render them, lackadaisical, to keep them addicted to anti-Islamic things that, of course,
they have to pay for in order to keep them from.
fighting to keep them from building a separate identity that's why the israelis are always doing
that it's it's it's not an uncommon thing and look at what russia's doing they're getting rid of
porn hub they got rid of burger king oh my god getting rid of mcdonalds how would that culture ever
going to ever going to survive their health just went through the roof by comparison to americans
no one needs any of these things but as the russian economy continues to do very well building new
trading blocks, the U.S. is looking worse and worse. Every foreign policy gambit of theirs has been a
failure. I think the last success was what, Grenada? No, Panama. That was about the last success.
Everything else has been a miserable failure from Iraq to God knows Afghanistan, Somalia, the Israeli
morass right now, and now, of course, the extreme unpopularity of liberalism and liberal economies
in the Western world, especially in the, in the Central European world.
So, and these sanctions are now going to be aimed at third countries.
In other words, if you assist a country in evading sanctions, you yourself will be sanctioned.
Now, you don't hear that many court cases about people who've been arrested for breaking sanctions.
It's very curious.
I've never seen, you know, IBM or Chevrolet getting dragged before a judge because they did something you weren't supposed to.
no the u.s still buys things from russia um britain says it won't it won't import russian oil
and gas we're just going to get it from the french but where do the french get it you know
it's it's hilarious you know how we're in some of these people are um so that's kind of a
a very very rough thumbnail sketch of what's going on um the shooting specifically yeah
it's just one more terrorist attack out of many and many more to come because that's all
the West has left. Well, you mentioned them just not caring about hearts and minds and public opinion
anymore. So, um, can you, what's your opinion on, I mean, Israel's bombing Syria, Israel's
bombing Lebanon, Israel's, you know, just turn the Gaza strip into dust. What's the purpose of all
this? I mean, it seemed, it just seems so like they're basically just trying to destroy everything.
They're trying to destroy themselves.
They're trying to destroy their own people.
They're trying to, there just seems to be a nihilism associated with this that I can't quite,
some people are jumping straight to like eschatological end times things.
What are they doing?
Well, if these aren't the end times, then there is no such thing as the end times.
Especially because it's global and scope.
and for some of the things that we suffer today
you didn't even have the vocabulary for
in Greek for example
millennia ago
so they can only describe it in very vague
terms
now the machinery
of Armageddon is a completely
different issue I spoke about that last week
on the concept of the Kabbalistic concept of Adam Cadman
the broader point
is that the western
the US is simply losing everywhere it goes
it believes it has this authority to throw its weight around anywhere
you know it's like that episode of the simpsons where um the old man in the nuclear plant
lost all of his all of his money in power but still walked around springfield like he
mr burns still walked around springfield like he had all that money and people were
laughing at it that's how the u.s appears uh now um which is why they have to rig elections
which is that why they have to use acts of terrorism um and simply
use genocide as a means of foreign policy, whether it be in Ukraine or in, because that's the only
thing you can consider Gaza to be.
And Israel's good with that.
So if Israel's going to kill babies, which they do, and toddlers, and those who survive
are going to have PTSD for the rest of their lives, if you're going to attack hospitals
and then, of course, accuse the Russians of doing the exact same thing, of course, almost in the same
breath, then you can't take, you know, their main.
pillar in the U.S.
is these
Republican evangelical.
It's now part of the Protestant creed
that there's only one group that's saved
by their race and that's these Khazar Jews
and the level of ignorance
that goes into that
is astounding. We don't even have
a common vocabulary anymore
but you can't be pro-life
for example and support
Israeli operations in Gaza.
You can't do it because you're killing
babies there. You're preventing them from being
born and God knows what kind of a level and it's mass slaughtered so either there has to be a
total revaluation of values on some Nietzschean foundation or simply the Jews cashing in with
you know we are the superior race and therefore the laws don't apply to us normal public opinion
doesn't apply to us and a complete of course there was also the whole question of new
Khazadia in Crimea but that's not going to happen now I have a few papers out on that this very
old concept.
Jews mostly know that they're Khazars and have no connection with the people of the Old
Testament.
So I want to rebuild the Khazadi, which is roughly where Crimean and the Black Sea are.
And the Caspia on the other side, that was pretty much the foundation of the Khazar Empire.
But Russia had to lose for that to be the case.
So now Israel's in serious trouble.
They didn't win this war like they thought.
they're grinding it out in a war of attrition you have the almost the entire world against
them you have the turks threatening to intervene in any given moment you imagine that um the
Iranians have been extremely restrained and intelligent their counter strike as we all as we all
know and now that U.S. is completely bereft of military equipment they're sending what they have
left to um to the Israelis and their their performance even in the israeli's and their performance even in the
Israeli side has been pretty poor
compared to their opposition.
The Houthis,
the, you know, Hesbalah has defeated Israel in the past
in 2000. They took South Lebanon.
And worse, as far as the Western world is concerned,
any Islamic state
run by moderates who wants
to actually talk to Tel Aviv are going to
be overthrown.
So you're radicalizing people who may not have been
radical before.
don't forget iran is a first world economy they have a first world scientific and educational establishment
the best mental health on the planet i think the lowest suicide rate in the world i think they're in the
they're in the bottom five um something like that a highly motivated group of people who now realize
who's the cause for their problems sanctions to the extent that they've done anything in iran
are blamed on the West,
the people where it should be blamed.
And it hopes that they want to weaken their opposition
just enough that they can continue
their strip mining of the world's assets.
And I don't even think that's going to work out.
We're living in wonderful times in many ways.
My audience would want me to ask this question
because I don't think we've spoken
since the interview with Tucker and Putin.
When Putin brings up denazification,
what is he talking about well we've already covered it i didn't watch it i had little interest in it
nothing new was said um i have a book out on the political philosophy of laudimir putt which came
out in 2012 called russian populist and really his agenda hasn't changed my big criticism though
i was the very first pro-putin guy in the nationalist right in 2001 2002 when i was at the barnes
Review. Everything that came after follows on me. And of course, the publications in the Barns
Review and elsewhere are proof of that. The one thing I disagree with Putin on is this notion
that these neo-Nazis, this glorification of World War II and the defeat of the German
army. And I get it from a Russian point of view, but not necessarily from an ideological point
of view, where somehow the Soviet banners should be put in the temple of the army that they
have in Petersburg right next to
Orthodox ones. That's
a very common pro-Soviet
ideologically
pro-Soviet but non-leftist
approach to
history. Putin is still
hung up on this World War II victory
and it's the ultimate
and the high point in Russian life.
And in fact, it wasn't Russian at all.
It was Soviet, which was largely a foreign
internationalist
body, which at the time was ruled
by a Georgian in an army
of Jews
Putin of course
has bought into this
neo-Nazis-run Ukraine thing
despite the fact that they don't have a single policy
that an actual neo-Nazi movement would engage in
against the power
that in many ways can be considered
somewhat social nationalist in Russia
like you have in Syria and Belarus
and elsewhere in a very vague sense
I mean that's what Russia is
I vehement disagree with them
and he uses that I think I mean he does believe it he's passed laws where if in a non-scholarly way you question um the the great patriotic war victory again non scholarly that's gone to the courts already and scholars have been perfectly of it exonerated I've actually covered that in the past non this is for non scholars um that somehow that was a pinnacle of soviet and hence Russian
life. I can't agree. I can't accept it. There's millions of Russians who agree with me. Putin is a great man and he saved Russia from utter dissolution by 1999. But as far as that is concerned, he's dead wrong. And I mean, the policy can end up being the same. But he says that over and over again, that this is the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, despite the fact that their specific agenda is to be a part of NATO.
be a part of the EU and be a liberal power in all definitions of that term.
So there's a little cognitive dissonance there.
It's irritating, but not a huge issue for me.
We've already mentioned that the people who are financing Ukraine have said that they're willing to fight Russia down to the very last Ukrainian.
when you examine everything that's happening right now
and you look at everything, in your opinion,
how does this end?
I think, and I'm not making a hard and fast prediction here.
It's going to be like how the U.S. surrendered in Afghanistan.
You don't have people who really know what's going on over there.
So you could say we won and we're getting out.
And that's it.
The media doesn't talk about it anymore, and no one even knows what's going on.
And they're going to do the same here.
You have a whole Ukrainian units refusing to fight shootouts between people being forcibly drafted and all that.
There's been a lot of violence in Ukraine.
It's going to get to the point where, you know, Ukrainian is going to refuse to fight.
This Zelensky is never going to put himself in front of elections.
They'd be rigged anyway.
but, you know, I don't think he's, he's dumb enough to do that.
May God, the Americans had an election right in the middle of the civil war.
The Syrians did it during their war.
It's not, you know, the problem is he has no, he has no support in the nationalist population, let alone anyone else.
So I think it ends with, with the U.S. pulling out and just dropping it, declaring victory,
so long as there's no follow-up questions.
the media move on to something else.
That's certainly depressing and demoralizing just all the loss of life.
What are you figuring, Ukrainian, 600,000 at this point?
Oh, yeah.
Did you read my paper on that?
I think I published 600.
Are you talking about military deaths?
Military, I think.
Last one I saw that was like 500,000, but another 100,000 in civilians maybe.
Oh, yeah, I had come up, there was a study that was some months ago on obituaries appearing in Ukrainian newspapers.
That was a guy who put it at 600,000 military casualties, not just deaths, casualties in general.
Deaths, you know, all countries lie about their casualties, the U.S. does it all the time.
There is no Ukrainian official number.
they would never release that it would be ridiculous anyway um whatever your view is is going to be
much higher than that there's very now you civilians it's really hard to tell um it's not as compact as
gaza is you know there you can keep track but this is a much bigger place um and this you know so yeah
i said 600 000 like three months ago uh the intensity of the war has
has gone down and there's simply no resources or manpower to engage in any kind of offensive
and the Russians are not going to fall for the let's talk peace while retooling and regrouping
which has happened twice in the in the past it happened at the Istanbul conference a few months
into the war and of course it happened at the Minsk too concerning east Ukraine they're not
going to fall for it a third time.
I think Russia will get its goals and at a minimum there'll be a cold peace between the two
sides, the rump Ukrainian state with the, I don't know, the eastern quarter already a part
of Russia, they're Russian speaking anyway, and actually being a part of a functional economy
for once.
China's already heavily involved in rebuilding Crimea.
You know, the Ukrainian administration kept the infrastructure in a shockingly bad state of disrepair.
So they have to rebuild a lot of this stuff from zero.
But there's no resources in the West, certainly nothing in Kiev that they could use to fight.
Whether they go to a purely ISIS-style terrorist group that they'll invent again, whole cloth, that, you know, that's a separate issue.
But this loss of life, now, I don't know, maybe 700,000 total casualties for absolutely nothing.
I've also heard reports of tens of thousands of fighting men who could be buried in unmarked graves while their commanding officers continue to collect their paychecks.
Have you heard anything about that?
I have heard about that.
I don't remember where.
I've been on a couple of Russian language blogs from former military officers who've spoken of this.
There's been many reports from 2014 on of Ukrainian officers fleeing the scene, leaving their men stranded.
It's a source of a lot of desertion.
And Putin has made it very easy for these boys.
Of course, it's all boys, just no girls, for these boys, young men to become Russian citizens.
And there's been a big explosion there, let alone those that have fled the border, paid the money and simply left.
The rich are certainly long gone from there.
The western part of the country is not entirely industrialized.
It's an agrarian population.
It still may be viable.
The eastern part, of course, is very pro-Russian and highly industrialized and urbanized.
But it could never function as a part of the Ukrainian economy.
Now, for the first time, it can function.
What Ukraine is going to do to replenish its numbers, that's, again, a separate issue.
And the whole thing is extremely depressing.
Well, let's end it right there.
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Hey, I appreciate you, my friend. Talk to you soon.
want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cagnonez show.
It's been a while.
I've been looking forward to this.
Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson.
How are you doing, my friend?
Hey, Peter.
It's a pleasure to be on.
It always is.
You have a great audience.
I hear from them once in a while.
And our topic today is definitely going to interest them.
All right.
Let's get into it.
Yeah, this is, it's not rare that somebody in the audience asks for a subject.
and I do it, but it's not every day that I do it, but this was definitely the topic of the
Cossacks and the Jewish question and Poland was brought up and your name was mentioned
as the only person they wanted to hear from. So I will follow you along with this and you can
start wherever you want and I'll interrupt whenever I, you know, whenever I have a question
or need clarification on something.
Does that sound good?
No problem.
Let me get started here.
The first thing we ought to do
is to find what the Kossak is.
It comes from the Turkic word Kazakh,
which means freebooter.
Something like the bikers of the era,
although very religious.
They were a free communal body
of full-time warriors.
They were semi-nomadic, well, they had their own camp.
You had to be Orthodox to be a member.
Generally speaking, it was Slavs from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus.
Its formation had a lot of sources, people running from serfdom, people who didn't have families, people who were in trouble somewhere.
And so long as yet they could maintain the rigors of the Cossack life,
they were considered a member.
Southern Russia has this very long step, this prairie, very difficult to control, especially without air power.
And this is where the Cossacks came into their own.
They essentially were an Orthodox force against Poland or Turkey.
They eventually come under the Polish Empire.
And generally speaking, worked for the Russians, although certainly not all of them.
after a certain time, they were the biggest headache
that the Polish Empire ever had to deal with.
The Polish Empire is interesting because it was an oligarchy.
It was an oligarchy in the true sense.
The emperor, the king, had very little power,
although there were some very rare exception.
The only thing that these nobles cared about
was the maintenance of their lands and the maintenance
of their power and they'll throw a war if they had to to keep the crown from getting any credit for
um and they didn't have a standing army but they had something called confederations
where groups of landowners would get together for a common purpose and bring together a regular
force uh and they would do this on a regular basis whether it be well especially against the
the other thing that makes Poland interesting is the Jewish issue. It used to be that Poland,
the Polish Empire was called the Paradise of the Jews. In fact, you had some extreme, quite a number
of Orthodox rabbis claiming that the Messiah is going to come because of the privileges that the Polish elite gave them.
The Polish elite were landed, they were often illiterate, they didn't have, again, they didn't want a strong monarch.
So rather than allow any centralization of finance, they imported 13th, 14th century Jews to handle the commerce of the cities.
The situation was always tense because of them.
You had a whole army of intermediaries between the landowners on one hand and their subjects on the other.
And the Jews were granted rights over taverns, trade duties, mills, fishing rights, bridge tolls, dams, and unfortunately even Orthodox churches.
And because the Polish forces would protect them, they had no.
obligation, no desire, to even understand the language of their servants. And they behaved,
as you might expect. And this, by the way, even the mainstream academic literature is forced
to concede this. But their arrogance was so intense that it's a miracle that the rebellions,
which did explode several times, most famous of which is Kimunitsky in 1648, didn't happen
sooner. They were very
inventive in their exploitation. One of the big
areas, I said
taverns, meaning the distilling of alcohol
which they had a monopoly.
And
they could call upon
Polish
local landlords
militia
to protect them if necessary because
these people were to
for lack of the better laundering
the cash of
the money of the Polish nobility.
the only reason they were able to function there is because of this very same nobility so the anti-colonialist fight of the cossacks who of course were orthodox very free anti-surfdom and poland who was roman catholic and had the harshest kind of serfdom at the time so the anti-colonial movement took aim at the jews as well and
The popular, for lack of a better term, again, the popular press, the Dumi, or the series of poetic cycles about Jewish oppression was popular.
This was the voice of the common person.
And the great Ukrainian historian, Gutyshevsky, went through them in some detail, which I've read.
There was nothing that any peasant, you know, I mean they were the townsmen, but that any peasant could have that wasn't.
and subject to confiscation.
Even travelers were sometimes stripped of their goods.
Anything that, you know, that they would use alcohol to trick people into doing things.
And this continued, even after Poland seeks to exist, even at the expense of, you know, the average man or the Cossacks' wife and children, I think the Jews very much feared them.
Don't forget, one of the original purposes of the Cossack host was to free Christian slaves from the island of Kaffa in Black Sea, which is a Jewish island and is where the main slave mark was.
So their contempt for the Jews at the time knew no bounds.
And that goes back to their very, they're very founded.
and often you know there were a lot of Jews there I think at one point 80% of the world's Jewish population was living in the Polish Empire straight up until the early 20th century so who could be talking about Zionism in a place like this
but probably the most obnoxious thing I mean they were the agents of monetization and as the explosion in which
Western demand for grain grew, 16th, 17th century,
Polish landlords needed to intensify serfdom.
And the only hope they had were the cost of coasts.
But probably the most obnoxious thing
is their control over physical churches.
We have plenty of firsthand accounts of this.
Their entire villages were seen as assets
that the Jews can use, including the local
church. The great Ukrainian historian custom
mottiv talks about this also at some
at some length. Now I have a book out
called Ukrainian nationalism. My editor had
that was Russia insider helped me put that together
and I go into this in some detail
but it's even mainstream writers
have to admit that the rebellions
against these Jews were earned.
But the rebellions that continue to occur from the 16th century right up until the 18th,
you have letters being written all over the place talking about how important it is to realize
that the Jews run things.
Financially speaking, there's a merchant from Moscow in 1648 who was there at the time of the
Rebellion says the Jews
robbed and abused the Ukrainians
as soon as they distilled vodka, brew
beer without telling a Jew
did not take off his hat in front of one.
The Jews assaulted him, robbed
and ruined him,
taking his property forcibly
and his wives and children
to work for him.
Many Poles, especially in
the church, were well aware
of this, this unbearable oppression, as
they would say.
And there was
a Catholic canon, Yusufovic, in Levov, in Western Ukraine, at the time part of the Polish Empire,
who says that there was no sacraments available to these very Orthodox people unless they paid a toll to the Jews.
And in his writings, Yusufovic said, you have suffered your troubles as you deserve, talking both about the Poles and the Jews.
so we talked about not just a financial political degradation but a moral one too
constantly having to endure injustice 24 hours a day and what did they expect to happen
did they overestimate because you know ultimately by 1648 by the time the kimonitsky
kosak rebellion exploded it was mainstream opinion that we don't have to rain or the jews are saying
We don't have to rein in our arrogance because the Messiah is on its way and he's coming to Poland.
Because in no other way could we be permitted this level of aristocracy.
Jews even had serfs in the name of the Polish landowner.
So not only was they paying a vig every week, but they had to work in the Jews' house and his field,
which he owned the name of Poland.
and there were taxes on whatever it was that he was being paid.
So it's clear that this was absolutely unbearable,
an unbearable situation,
that the Orthodox people and the only force they had against them was the cost of.
They were invited in, and that is the common refrain that you get
when you're talking about Jewish history,
is, well, because Christians were against Eusoryan Christians saw,
looked down upon money-changing things like that,
they invited the Jews in.
So they basically invited this upon themselves,
and, you know, they had no right to fight back.
Precisely right.
And it freed up the landlord to do whatever he wanted.
That's why they were always in debt.
But the Jews always had access to credit in any given moment.
You know, they could undersell anybody.
So they monopolized all of these fields.
The collective term for the Polish nobility, the slatsha.
And they didn't like the idea that a Catholic merchant class would develop in their cities
and give its loyalty to the crown, as what happened in Britain and England.
The Jews were organized into autonomous cahals, you know, fairly large, legally defined.
institutions
and were given
a totally
free hand
so it was
you know
it was diabolical
it was brilliant
because it kept
the elites
and noble power
centers
from ever being
co-opted
so the anger
of the peasantry
not to mention
the Cossacks
who the Polish
government was always
trying to make
serfs out of them
which is always
so stupid
Cossack
Rebellions is one of the reasons that Poland fell apart in the late 18th century.
But any indebted land, any indebted merchant group, and once they monopolized
money, you know, usury, they jacked up interest rate.
They clearly didn't have the same.
This is where the Talmud became so essential to all of this.
They made sure that everyone hated them.
They had no incentive to do anything else.
And I know Heinrich Greats, who was a German Jew who rejected the Zohar in the Talmud, talks about not just the domination of Jews, but how dependent the Polish elites were on them.
And whatever defects they had, the Jews were able to counterbalance it to them.
The aristocracy was seen as ditsy, unsurious, extravagant, reckless, reckless.
and so the Jews were the perfect group of people to profit
and keep them in power
but he was more than a financier
he was his help
whatever he got into trouble
a prudent advisor they were the dominant
cast
and revolts were pretty continuous
and they never learned their lesson
by 1648 the illegitimacy
of this Polish lead became so vile
that there is no defending it
And as he Michael Jones said, one of my favorite lines of his, rather than the accession of the Messiah in Poland, given the privileged position of Jews in the Polish Empire, the Jews got Kimonitsky instead.
So, and the importation of Jews was made possible by the Statute of Khalis.
and that's from there it became the paradisus udorum so the paradise of the jews
and you know they never even learned the language of their of their people and they also
were involved in prostitution the people you know women who were impoverished they had their
own state within a state um and even the uprising the cosaxin under kim munichki
which removed the Jews from
public life, however, temporarily.
They were,
and he's a key figure.
It was only temporarily, in fact,
they even signed treaties saying the Jews won't be
taking your debt anymore.
Because for the most part,
what the Cossacks wanted, among many other things,
was to be treated as the equal
to any Polish noble.
so um um and if you would like i could get into the rebellion of kimonetsky that year yeah let's do that
um we've talked about it before but definitely we needed in context for this uh for this episode
well bogdan kymnitsky was a kosa who had so many people appealed to him
saying that you know he was high ranking and we need to do something about
this and this is where the idea of the Ukrainian or South Russian nation came
into existence now depending on who you read what he wanted either was an
independent state or to create an autonomous unit within Poland or possibly the
creation of an autonomous unit as part of the Moscow state and Kimonitki really
leaned towards the Russian side
But as I wrote it, my book, the Russian side became just as bad as the Poles, just minus the Jews.
I mean, anything was better than what the Poles offered.
And they kept, you know, demanding concessions.
And rather than give it to them, they had to have huge casualties for them to do anything.
So most people think, especially in Russia, that this uprising was a way to extend Russia's border.
and it seems to be almost in inevitability.
The Cossack hosts, you know, having maybe 10,000 of the most, and there were several centers of it.
The most famous is the Perosian, this is Russian for beyond the rapids, the rapids of the Denepeer, a series of islands in some of the most inhospitable parts of that river, which is where they had their sick or fortress.
they tended to be a fairly radical egalitarian nationalist movement.
But within the Polish Empire itself, or at least on its frontiers, the Hetman was the chief executive, usually an older warrior.
Everyone was a warrior, every man.
But they tended to not be able to defend themselves.
Yes, of course, they were ferocious fighters, but against a regular force,
And this often didn't happen, but they needed allies.
I mean, Turkey at this point was one of the greatest, most powerful states in Europe.
And Ukraine, you know, Kimmitsky realized he had to go somewhere.
And the only place that made any sense was to go to Moscow.
This is a time of great ferment in Western Europe.
The glorious revolution in Britain, the front in France, the end of the 30 years' war.
So Kimonitsky started this war because people were absolutely exhausted.
And we hear talk about the Russian or Rus' nation within the Polish Empire.
But besides going to Russia later, he also went to the Crimean Khan because the Crimeans were dissatisfied with the Poles,
because the Poles used to pay them off to keep them from raiding.
Paul's territory and they stopped doing that.
And so the Khan sent 4,000 men.
He, you know, he needed their assistance, but because they were Muslims and other
headmins like Doroshenko later were going to, you know, how this bite them, because
the Tartars end up just plundering things.
And in fact, Kim Niske sent his son, Timofae, to the Khan as a hostage.
and vice versa so so that they could be assured of good behavior and that wasn't uncommon at the time
and it was also the possibility of the polls bribing them which is they have Kim Minuteski by 1640 and had 10,000 men
that includes the Tartars and the polls were trying to placate him but he said no this this time is come
And he succeeded for a time of expelling, or the three forces are the Polish landlord class, as I mentioned, the Jews, and then the unions, the so-called Greek Catholics that the Polish government, along with the Vatican, imposed in the Orthodox, the attempt to Catholicize it.
um now what kimonitki said is once he began his uprising well right at the moment it started
the polls had promised him all kinds of payments but as they were promising that negotiations took
place the polls were gathering their their army and he you know pretty much figured this out pretty soon
um you know count pataki was was one of the leaders of the polish forces um
who have the advanced guard of 4,000 men, usually mercenaries.
And they tended to be, you know, they lost bad, but the Poles did.
And did you have pro-Polish cross-action?
You had pro-Moscow cross-ex.
You even had a handful who supported Crimea, which was a subsidiary of Turkey, the Ottomans.
but one of the things that happened in their defeat of these three forces
was that many Jews were killed at least the worst of them
so of course Jews today with a few exceptions
you know act like there was no reason to hate them
this was just jealousy or something stupid like that
the polls eventually I think of of Ukraine at the time
Ukraine, meaning borderland, rather than an actual country, the left bank of the Jnieper River,
the eastern part of the country, and the right bank, or the Polish part of the country.
Well, the left bank was completely evacuated.
And so the coalition of the polls were using is this, you know, the elites, Jewish tenants,
Catholics and unions, and it was very hard for them if they were ever.
ever captured um and you have like rabbi henover who is alive at the time who talked about all
these atrocities that the um co-sex um allegedly did but you know has to is forced to to recognize why
and why this happened um they were what we might call pogromes but that was against that wasn't
merely against the jews uh and that was in the in the left bank
in fact and they simply disappeared Poles, Jews, Catholics, whatever.
And many of them had to take refuge in because that's where at least in one place
where the Polish state was able to maintain itself and you know we'd have so many
firsthand accounts because this was, I mean, Kimonitsky.
is one of the most significant figures in Eastern European history ever.
So what it comes down to is the struggle for independent South Ross,
Ukraine, a Ukrainian Orthodox shirt with the Cossack host as their protectors.
I mean, this is one of the defining issue of Ukrainian history.
But, of course, it can't be separated from basic politics of the head of it.
but the Cossack saw themselves
of having several functions
to protect the Orthodox faith
to rescue Orthodox slaves
especially from the Jews
and then later on to fight for
some autonomous entity
where they can be treated
as Poles of their own
elite
so from the 16th to the 18th century
this was a non-stop thing
infamously
Hetman in Majepa during the reign
of Peter's Gray
Peter I went to the Swedes
and the Hetman state as an actual government was founded after the rebellion of Kimonitsky
but the Sikh was always independent
and sometimes the Poles or the Russians would try to buy off
your better off cost of officers with grants of land and guarantees of political power
but you know sometimes that worked and sometimes it didn't
As I say, Poland was a federation of small, noble states, each with its own law, courts, and financial policy.
Yeah, it was ethnically Polish, but there was no political center that could unify people.
The elite, the slotja, viewed the nation as them.
And certainly, peasants, the Jews, your trunks, were never a part of this nation, but they could help it or hinder it.
So I guess starting in the 1620s and 30s, the constant uprisings against Polish and Jewish rule began.
And what made matters worse were the nature of the reprisals.
It wasn't like they were going to think about why these rebellions occurred and keep them from happening again.
No, they would attempt to go in and slaughter anyone who may be sympathetic to the revolt.
And of course, they had to raise mercenaries because they would never trust an army under royal control.
You know, in 1652, there was an invasion of the Polish nobility's hired army that would have destroyed the host, as not the Russians stepped in.
So I will continue.
In my book on Ukrainian nationalism, I say, Gimnizki is quite possibly the most important single person in Ukrainian history after St. Vladimir himself.
early on he defeated the Poles en masse he destroyed their parasitism and their usury
and the independent Korsak state was able to stand at least for a while and you know we
can go all the way back to the Kuznicki revolt of 1591 1592 all you know based
on on complex concern
But, you know, the point of bringing the Jews in was to keep the crown or to have any countervailing power in the cities that could be a mighty class.
And the fact that they were successful there, I don't know how many other places tried that.
And essentially was allowing the elite to have a passive income generated and maintained by these Jews who became some of the most privileged people on the planet of them.
yeah the it's a common story um sombart's book on the jews and modern capitalism he goes through a lot of it where he talks about how you know in places like in in austria they would you know a leader of a city would bring would invite a couple of jews in to help him with his finances to help him make money also because of the underground network being able to um talk to um
to other leaders around Europe, and inevitably other Jews would follow in, and they would start
doing business with the common folk, and they would immediately put them into debt, and, you know,
after a decade or two, the common folk are like, we don't care about the, you know, the leader
of this city, the mayor of this city, whatever they would be called at that time, making all
this money, now we're enslaved to these people, and we want them gone, or we're going to kill them.
And then, obviously, that is what would lead to one of the famous expulsions that we read about
over the last, you know, 1,000 and 1,500 years.
Oh, yeah, that's certainly an expulsion.
But you had a number of power centers.
I'm just to Roman Catholic Church in Poland, the union's,
Even the Vatican to some extent, the Cossack, at least while they were unified, and this Orthodox Church of Ukraine, which did exist, which came from the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, and maybe the Patriarch of Constance and Opel, maybe another one by Constantine Opel at the time was under the Turks and couldn't be of much assistance.
There were a handful of loyal bishops at the time, but as far as the Cossacks were concerned, by, say, 1650, the confederations of these elite Catholics were the military problem, not Poland, and certainly not the Polish monarchy, who tended to be very sympathetic to the Cossacks without supporting them directly.
and what eventually came out of his uprising
was the Treaty of Peresla
and it was a treaty
binding the Cossacks binding themselves
to Moscow
but in exchange
for a tremendous amount of autonomy
and that state that signed this treaty
didn't have Catholics or Jews within it
Um, today in Ukraine, the units are at the forefront of the national movement, despite it being a foreign creation, a Polish creation and a creation of, it's to some extent of the Vatican.
Um, but the only thing that could make a Cossack and, and, um, what he is and crane or his state independent is to be orthodox.
So by the second half of the 17th century, very few people, unless they had an agenda, believe that the CM could be trusted with anything.
Again, remember, what Poland actually was.
Now, the Kynitsky uprising in 1648, there's been thousands of books and articles in Russia, Ukrainian, and Polish written about him.
And the only thing the Cossacks didn't have prior to him was a talented leader.
And the ideology of that uprising, which I wrote of in my book, it's an ethno-national ideal informed by the Orthodox faith, their own.
Don't think that the Cossets were not religious, they very much were.
And in fact, once the old believers had to escape Moscow, not two decades later, they became Cossacks.
So they even became, even today, or an old believer movement, but not solely.
Cossacks were never unified under one person, Cimonytki being an exception.
So what that had been created was a centralized and authoritarian system because everyone knew that the Poles or someone else like the Turks was going to try to take a place.
piece of them. And the same thing goes for the, for the church. The church had to have the
resources to fight the Roman Catholics in the one hand, Jews on the other. But the alliance between
the Polish elite and Jewish merchants were so close that it's tough to separate them.
The Polish elite needed Jewish networks. They needed their capital and they needed to develop
urban trade. They didn't have to do anything, but they still got to cut.
I guess the only thing they had to do was keep anyone from hurting of the Jews.
But as far as Jews are concerned, the Polish nobility was just convenient.
But their insolence, their general parasitism made them, what I called in my book, an unstable
golem for the network's profits.
The last thing in the world that any Cossack could do is engage in any kind of serfdom.
they still needed alliance, and that caused them a lot of trouble.
Initially, the early rebellions had maybe 1,000 or 3,000, but as the 17th century
began, that number started to grow and grow and grow and grow and grow.
And that's the important thing to remember.
So, now I can continue after that.
if you would like me to, or do you want me to stop?
Well, no, definitely want you to continue with that, with their history.
But I did have one question.
You know, if you look, say you go to Wikipedia on the Cossack page,
they differentiate between Russian and Ukrainian Cossacks.
So can you just talk about the difference historically what they're talking about there?
They're not talking about ethnic groups.
They're talking about loyalties.
left bank, Ukraine, the eastern part of the country, I mean, they're all orthodox, of course, tended to be pro-Russian, although even the most fanatical pro-Russian headman had to turn on them, because they were especially repeated the grave, was extracting so much out of Ukraine.
And the western side, the right bank of the Nieupper, is where the Hetman was the strongest.
but you even had some
some Cossacks
Tataria and a few others
who thought that if the treaty is right
working with Poland as a way to protect themselves
from the Turks
may be workable
they never became a part of Poland of course
but
and if someone was more if a leader was more
leaned too far to one side or another
there would be rebellion against him
so everybody
this was a huge balancing act
for them
but after
the Kimonitsky uprising
eventually fizzled down
Kimminski's lieutenants
and this is all in my book by the way
the two big ones were
Ivan Velhouski and
Paul Tataria
and unfortunately that's
where the class conflict in the cross-sac coast
began
Ivan Velhotsky leaned towards Poland
as a reaction to the Russian presence
in part of Ukraine
after Perislav.
But when he died in 1664,
the Russians actually created
their own
Cossack noble class
complete with their own serves.
You had a Russianized
noble class at that point.
But Cossacks
who leaned more towards Moscow,
fomented rebellions against Vahowski.
I know the great historian
Doroshenko
that he claims that Moscow was deliberately spreading myths
to the effect that the Hetman's going to hand Ukraine over to the Poles.
That probably was at least in part true.
So loyalties split the Cossacks,
so-called Russian and Polish, as well as class.
Because the classic way of buying the Cossacks off
was to go to the elite and said,
listen, you stay loyal to us,
you could keep your way of life,
and we will guarantee your lands.
and even get some surfs of your own.
Sometimes it worked.
Sometimes it didn't.
So that's the difference there.
All righty.
So, yeah, you were talking about moving forward and moving forward in their history.
So go anywhere you'd like to go.
Well, after the revolt, 1648, there was something.
called the Board of Agreement of 1649 1650 and this this this was um this essentially was their
demands that uh had polish signatures but no intent of of making it real so cost like ukraine
number one was to include include the areas of kiev chernigov and bradslav in areas under
The Units were dissolved and its property granted to the Orthodox Church, that the Metropolitan of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine had a guaranteed seat in the Polish Senate.
Anybody involved in that rebellion had to be amnesty, which is not the Polish way of doing things, and that both Jews and Polish landlords will be prevented from ever returning.
So that's what immediately came after the Kimmelniki Rebellion.
What came after that is what we talk about as the ruin.
Now, the thing that made Hetman-Viherski interesting was the proposal called the Haidotts Treaty,
which said a lot of the same things as I just listed.
So much of the Union Church was already destroyed.
Many of them became Orthodox themselves, and that would be a continuous matter all the way right up into the 20th century.
But the argument was even if Poland couldn't be trusted, the Treaty of Perislav was very strict on Cossack autonomy, which the Russians had completely violated 100 times over.
There was something called the trilateralist solution to Ukrainian independence.
The Polish Empire was formally called the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Well, what people like the Husky wanted was Polish-Lithuanian-Russian Union,
with a great degree of independence and religious freedom as far as the Russian side was concerned.
And this eventually became the Treaty of Perislav.
or, you know,
the Paraslav was the negation of the Hydoch Treaty.
Even Kimmelitsky's son Yuri,
who was pretty hapless, but well-meaning,
thought that the Poles would be better,
now that they've been defeated,
better than the Russians would be.
And he eventually became a puppet hitman of the Turks.
So, and again, Amnesty was always a part of it,
because Polish reprisals were absolutely disastrous.
The Hetman at this point, I don't know, 1665, something like that, was Dorochenko.
The Zerdesky articles were with another treaty with the Russians promising local autonomy.
If there were Russian troops in Cossack areas, they had to be under the command of the Hetman
and that Ukraine had to be totally unified.
and just as important that the Orthodox Church would have to come under Constance and Noble, or at least Jerusalem, and much of that was ultimately rejected.
But by 1665 or so, the position of the Cossack Coast was very poor, and one of the reasons, and corruption had come in, especially under Moscow, and they would place very high taxes on them.
And this is why some people ended up going to, going to Poland.
But even very pro-Russian Hettens in the east, like Bruevodzky, who personally came under the Russian monarchs, the Russian monarchs protection.
And he had one demand.
He had one single demand, and that was that Ukrainian common law.
In other words, the traditional law, the Cossack Hose, would be respected.
And because of that, loyalty was promised to the czar.
and his interest. So what it comes down to is the retention of the Kossack tradition and in
urban areas that they had the Magdeburg law from Germany. The cities were essentially independent
and elections to urban offices, of course, had to be Orthodox. And any election for any of these
offices had to be free and done according to local tradition. Yes, Russia promised it and then
violated any time they got the chance.
So if one side of this got too strong, if the Turks became too strong, if the Poles became too strong, if the Russians became too strong, there was always a reaction to go elsewhere.
One of the things that made Hedman-Mazepa unique is that he went to the Swedes, given the nature of the war that was already going on.
The great thing about that was Sweden was too far away to really administer the Cossack host.
I mean, anyone wanted to get away from Peter the Great.
He reduced the Cossack Coast to absolutely nothing.
So ultimately, no one trusted anybody, not even internally.
And the only real stable point was the Duporosian Sikh, always the most radical of the, of the Cossack groups.
and that wasn't shut down until
until Catherine the Great.
So, you know, you had uprisings all over the place
and the worst thing that happened,
we'll talk about this here in a minute,
something called the Treaty of Andrew Solon in 1667,
which will negate the Cossack State entirely
and divide Ukraine between Poland and Russia,
which was a tremendous betrayal
since that's the one time where the Poles returned to that part that was promised to them, and the Jewish usurers returned.
So Poland and Russia were now bound by treaty as equals at the expense of Ukraine and the Cossacks.
And those who fell within the Polish sector were right back to where they were before.
So Poland essentially took the right bank, Russia took the left bank, and that condemned those on the right.
bank was an insult and condemned thousands of orthodox Russians to expropriation and exploitation.
And I guess part of the point of Andrew Chauvel was to combine Polish and Russian forces against Turkey.
Why don't you keep going? I don't really have a, I don't really have a question on anything there.
Okay. Yeah, I want to pause from time to time just in case you do.
Absolutely. Thank you.
But that, yeah, that treaty was an absolute disaster, and it created another, I would talk about here in a little bit, created another massive rebellion, probably the last one, the Hadamak Rebellion.
We'll get to that here in a second.
Because of Andrew Sovo and the subsequent treaties, Poland and Russia divided the area of the home.
Free trade was proclaimed, but that was a code for Polish colonization.
and dispossession, it meant massive interest rates and Jewish rule without any countervailing power.
Now, Russia had a tough time dealing with that because Jewish capital structure in Poland was far more experienced
and far wealthier than the relative of small merchant class in Russia.
So any kind of cost-tech independence was nullified.
And 1672, something called the Comtap Articles, imposed a headman on Ukraine that had
absolutely no independence whatsoever.
And this is why Russia is unpopular in certain, certain Ukrainian circles, historically speaking.
But I want to talk about someone else.
One of my favorite people at the time, and that is the military leader of the Cossack,
so Ivan Circle.
He is the unsung hero of this era.
We're talking about 1670, something like that.
he was from the Sikh
the Parosia
he backed
rebellions against
Moscow I'm thinking of
Brazil I'm thinking of Razine
in particular
he unified Ukraine
to the defeat of both Polish and Turkish forces
he was eventually arrested
and sent to Siberia but once
the Turks began to advance
they had to call him back
in 1674
there was a mass of Turkish invasion
that Serco had defeated
The Russian Hedman on their side, Semelowicz, didn't do a thing.
A year later, 15,000 elite janissary, not to mention regular forces, invaded Ukraine.
Serco again defeated the cream of the Ottoman army.
1678, another huge Turkish invasion.
Russia didn't do anything.
Semolovic wouldn't do anything, but Serco repelled them.
a third time.
The coalition force
under Serco grew to very large
numbers and a fourth time
a Turkish invading force was
defeated. Ivan Serco
was watching the Turkish Empire at this point.
Its best fighting men were destroyed and the road
seemed open for the Cossacks to take this
Turkish capital of Istanbul.
Rather than
the Russians and Samo, it's taking
this as a serious
way to completely take Constantine
They ended up destroying
with Cossack Sik for a ton.
Circo, who saw
the possibility of destroying Turkey forever,
was forced to retreat.
And he died
a broken man.
What ended up happening is that the
Hetman Dorshenko and the Russians
negated everything that he did.
The bizarre thing is that right after
Circle's death, Russia then went on to found the
Holy League as a military force
against Turkey.
Circo could have easily destroyed Turkey and maybe even Poland too.
Russian Ukraine was an oligris.
With both Cossack and Russian nobles, that 1% owned about half the land.
It wasn't the Jews, but the Cossack elites who controlled the cities in that part of Ukraine.
And the claim is that the Russians, their colonial governors,
corrupted the Cossack elite, they went out of their way to save Turkey by sending Circle away.
So that's, and throughout all of this, Circle tried to enlist the assistance of Semmelovich on the left bank.
after a while
Circle did endorse the pro-Moscow
but
even said in a letter of 1677
that we aren't going to separate
from you
they do talk about
Ukrainian fatherland
but it's hard to tell whether they're talking about
a nation or just the fact that this is
the Russian borderland or the Polish borderlands
for that matter
so Circle was
was just the absolute
perfection of the Cossack history and he was destroyed by his own allies.
So this was an absolute, absolute disaster.
And many of the offers by the Cossack host to Poland were completely defeated.
And had this occurred, had this treaty been accepted,
There would have been a Ukrainian orthodox identity outside of the Russian fold and outside of anything Polish and possibly could have brought old believers into the Ukrainian communion as a way to control Russian incursion.
The Austrians would do the same thing a little bit later.
But that's not just the left bank and the right bank, too.
The Vajowski alienated poor Cossacks because he was constantly negotiating with the Poles.
The terrible fear was that the Jews were going to come back.
So Vajoski was seen as pro-Polish.
Others were seen as pro-Russia and had Mazepa seen as pro-Turkish.
But once Russia had corrupted the left bank Ukraine, Poland was viewed by a lot of his allies
as a lesser evil relative to Russia.
But Vahavki was a lawyer, ultimately.
I mean, he created a balanced budget, laid the groundwork for institutions, created financial reserves, without Jewish assistance.
And we're getting into an era that's called the ruin, where the gains and victories of both Thirko and Kim Onitsky were completely negated.
All previous treaties were null and void.
And the one thing that dominated everything was class rule.
and the rank and file
revolted on both banks
of Ukraine
and these men
Teteria
of Vajoski
these were all
lieutenants of
Kim Onitsky's
and part of his campaigns
against Poland
at the ruin
it negated everything
it didn't destroy the ideas
and then you have
the interesting case
of Peter Doroshenko
I mentioned already
he blamed the upper classes
the Cossack host on both banks, especially the left bank, for this ruin, this period of utter
powerlessness, but thought that there were resources to continue the state building as
a zyotchnine had done. And Doroshenko was one of the few who was able to centralize the country
to himself, both banks. Unfortunately, he had to go to the Turks to do that. Dorshenko was
as anti-Polish as he was anti-Russian. The Russian state.
is the one who elected Samalovich to the left bank
and this was seen not just as an ethnic distinction
but also as a class distinction
you know if the Jews were going to be out
monetization had to come from somewhere
and it's very easy to buy some of these people off
I mean the Cossack ideal is a little nomadic
the sick didn't know anything
but the landed Cossacks
in Ukraine proper not on the island
Jordan Schengo had no choice but to go to Turkey.
And just like in Kimoninski's case, he did go to the Crimeans, the Turks, despite signing
treaty saying we're not going to plunder anything, that's all they did.
And Circle predicted that.
Dorochenko became very unpopular because now we have Islamic plundering and the Jews right
behind them, of course.
And using the Turks was his undoing.
And the one thing other than that that he was known for is that he created a personal guard,
a Praetorian guard, completely loyal to him and appointed by him alone.
This was a way that he thought he could break the class status in both sides of both banks.
So he rules from 1665.
I want to say 1676.
He did briefly unite both banks.
and he was a typical headman in all other respects but because Kimonitsky had initially asked for the assistance of Crimea going to the Muslims now was okay or at least that's what he thought
and then this unified Ukraine would play Poland and Russia off against each other and to a lesser extent the Turks
Russia then started to rule Ukrainian lands directly in 1666, 1667.
In 1665, there were the so-called Moscow articles, which was a complete domination of Russia over Ukraine.
But there was a Cossack that had nothing to do with Ukraine as an ethnicity, although they probably recognized it.
They're all Orthodox Slavs. Turkey was seen as the main.
enemy at this point and that justified
them going to
Turkey
but Kimoninsky considered it
as well as a way to balance
Poland
so
even the most pro-Moscow
the Cossack rulers would eventually turn on
Russia's heavy-handedness
you know, Brujavetsky
was as pro-Russian as you can get
but every promise that
they made they broke and of course no one
was worse than Peter
Remember, St. Petersburg was built on the bones of Cossacks who, because of the rebellion of the Zepa, were worked to death.
The city is literally, the city is literally built on the bones of old Russia, that is to say, the remnants of the Cossack hosts.
So even pro-Russia, and now the only reason that the polls were slightly more reasonable is because they were much weaker.
even promised an independent church, but that was constantly being violated. That's why Ivan Mezeppa was going to defect and went to the Swedes, because the Russo-Swedish war was going on.
Mazepa brought the Baroque from Poland. He stressed the ethnic connection of all of those within the head minute.
He needed to create his own ruling class.
And he fully admits that the Treaty of Androsova was the worst thing that could have happened to Ukraine.
A lot of excellent writers had said the same thing.
So in Mazepa's time, the last hope was Sweden.
Everyone else had been tried.
And not to mention the fact that the Russians at the time were under Peter the Great.
Peter the Great was a Freemason
He was an occultist
I have an article
About his drunken synod
Where he was a Satanist
He created his own make-believe church
centered around alcohol
And given the orthodox point of view
He had no political legitimacy
Not to mention he moved the capital
At some point
And the fact that so many Cossacks perished
In the White Sea building project
The foundation of St. Petersburg
But of course we'll know what happened
Mazepa went to Charles 12th, and they were both destroyed.
So, beginning of the 18th century, Ukraine had become part of the Russian Empire after the defeat of Edmund Mazepa.
And he fled to Turkey, along with the Swedish king.
So, you know, but that's the basic structure of, of.
of the Cossack, and I'm saving to the end, the last rebellion,
the Kalivashina, or the Hadamak Rebellion in 1768.
But I want to pause right here and see if you have anything to say.
Well, yeah, I was going to say, if you're going to finish up with that, that would be great.
And then, you know, maybe we can do a follow-up on a follow-up one day
and get in some more modern time to talk about Pallas settlement and up through
the revolution because there were still Cossacks. Cossacks still existed in 1917. So
let's finish up this period and then we'll work on another period another time.
All right. Well, remember, the Cossacks still exists today. Usually pro-Russian and the war
Ukraine, of course, destroyed anything, any concern with Ukraine. But the last true rebellion was in
1768, the 2nd was in Petersburg.
And just like before, Poland was divided between, I'm sorry, the Ukraine was divided
between Poland and Moscow.
And those under Poland were yet again under the Jews.
And now those in Poland had the even worse treatment than they had in the past.
and the uprising
the Kulivashina uprising
was one of the reasons
the Polish Empire collapsed
the arrogance
of the Jews never went anywhere
they behaved in the exact same way
including after the Polish Empire
fell apart
they created something called
the Bar Confederation
this was the Polish
a military alliance
a few landlords against the Polish king
Stanislaus
Augustus
also against Russian troops
in parts of Poland
and yes
Russian wanted to weaken the Polish Empire
but not necessarily
in power
a sort of a Cossack
force because they were a shadow
with their former self by 1768
in 1768
there was specifically an incident
based on the oppression
of Polish lords and Jews
against
enforcing them to join
the Catholic Church to join the union.
And as time went on, the rights of the Orthodox were whittled the way to absolutely nothing.
And making matters worse, that very same year, Prince Niccoli Rapinian had to proclaim the equality of Orthodox and Protestants with Catholics, including the right to hold government positions, being on top.
top. And that caused indignation not just amongst the Ukrainians, but the Polish elite too. And the result of all that was the Bar Confederation. And the Bar Confederation, this was the only unified institutions Poland had. And they did engage in pogroms against the orthodox. And that was a reprisal for this rebellion. It was started in May of 1768, Abbott de Milchizedek of the Mokic.
Trinichke Monaster, in the southern part of Kiev.
The Zaporosian had at the time was Maxim Zelizniak, who initially only had 18 people,
but given the arrogance of the Jews, it grew tremendously.
And it engulfed almost the entire southeastern part of Kiev and even expanded west.
Now, it wasn't all Crosaks in this case, but you did have the core of it was Zaporosian.
once. You still had plenty of runaway peasants and everything else, soldiers from Russia
who participated in all of this. The assumption was that once the Russians realized that
we can do it, they will go to St. Petersburg for assistance because they figured, well,
they want to weaken Poland. And yet, it didn't happen. It was a systematic rebellion,
the Lysniak sent attachments all over the place.
And there was something, is a fictitious document called the Golden Charter of Catherine II, which allegedly permitted the extermination of Jews and Poles and independence for the Cossacks.
This was not a real document, but many of the rebels thought it was real.
So they engaged in an uprising based on this alleged golden charter of Catherine II.
but this uprising led to mass exodus of both Polish elites and Jews and it ended up being Zelisniak's movement was very large and he restored Cossack independent he really in the case you had peasant Cossack detachments at Haidemach was a peasant rebel it engulfed most of Kiev Galicia and
no one was spared. The Hadimak detachment destroyed everybody. Their traditional enemies
because the confederation ultimately left the civilian population unprotected once they were
had to go in retreat. The Haidemak's actually hanged a Polish nobleman, a euniate priest, and a Jew
on the same tree and had the inscription a pole, a Jew and a dog, the same faith.
I don't know if they killed a dog for that or not, but it happened all the time.
But by this point, the anger had reached tremendous levels.
Yes, some of these rebels didn't think every Jew needed to be eliminated, but many of them were.
They learned nothing from Kim Ilitsky.
And this was the last real uprising of the Cossacks, really until the Russian Civil War.
Most of the, Catherine II, as well as the polls, had tribes of Lisniak and others.
There is a book, the Kodenskaya, Niga, the protocols of some of the court hearings there.
Most of these guys were tortured to death between 1769, 17700 people were executed.
And this is what finally allowed Catherine II.
to destroy as a Porosian
Cossack hosts which never really
returned. They weren't military
rebels. They were
simply criminals. In other
words, the Russians, even though
Catherine the Great was not Russian
and the 18th century
in Russia itself was an absolute
disaster politically, they fought for Poland.
Which was a huge shock
to everyone involved. Not only that,
but rounded the rebels up for not just their own, but for Polish interests.
How Russia can be served by supporting Polish interests is a mystery,
very much like Doroshenko with the Turks.
But she actually wrote these men be punished with the most severe execution,
used only with the greatest of criminals.
And he included the entire population of the Zaporosian sheep.
at the same time.
So, you know, we've covered a lot of ground here.
But the Jews were in that top three enemies of the Cossacks,
the Polish landlords, Jews, and the Greek Catholics, so-called.
And I guess Catholics in general, because they look to Poland rather than anyone else.
Catherine then purged the church yet again.
Abbott Mokizek was transferred
and the Greek Catholic metropolitan in Kiev at the time
Philip Volokovych instigated even worse persecutions of the Orthodox
and in the new Polish confedrations that were being formed.
So that was the last main.
major uprising and the destruction of anything approaching Cossack independence, and it wasn't until
the Russian Revolution, so-called the Russian Civil War, that the Cossacks again showed
themselves in spaces like, you know, Terek, on the dawn, even on the Volga, rose up against
the communists and consistently did so right up until the German invasion.
Well, that's fantastic. Yeah, I want to follow this up with another episode where we
can pick up there and go forward and come into the modern day.
That would be great.
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I will definitely make sure that they have access to that uh to that information so that they can
do that and yeah I do the people who listen to this show um I don't tell them often enough how
much how great they are and how much I love them, but each and every one. And, you know,
one more thing before we leave this, you talked about how you've been doing this for a long
time. And I think now we're starting to see that the kind of things that you've been talking
about for forever, you know, for as long as you have, starting to crack the mainstream. And
Normies are starting to ask questions.
I have noticed that.
And as things get worse and worse and worse, more of our people are going to be radicalized
and they're going to be looking for answers.
They're going to trust the media.
They're going to be looking elsewhere.
And I hope that they start looking at people like me and you and others.
Thank you, Dr. Johnson.
I appreciate it.
Always.
All right.
You're welcome, my friend.
I want to welcome everyone back to the Picanados show.
Well, this is different.
We're not here to read 200 years together.
We're here to talk about something else.
How are you doing, Dr. Johnson?
You know, at Willis Cardo, when I used to work for him, he would occasionally say, you know, all these other people, how come no one's approaching me?
Some government or a social body wanting to give me money to say something.
How come no one has ever done that?
No one's ever tried to buy me.
No one's ever trying.
I wasn't sure if he was feeling left out.
if he was if he was being complimented and i feel the same way you know no one has ever approached
me i'm starting to wonder maybe i need to up my game here um you know no no you know so i i
not guitar or anybody else yeah this is in reference to um apparently dr johnson didn't know
about the whole qatarri meme where uh where all the the new the hosbera for the last six months to a
year has been that, no, it's actually Qatar and not Israel and not Jews. It's Qataris and not Jews who
control the United States government because, you know, the ACPAC is the biggest, you know, has a
babysitter for every congressman and, you know, the Qataris control Hollywood and the porn industry
and banking and the press. So, yeah. Yeah. So.
Yes, I'm proud to have been unaware of that, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, the reason I asked you to come on today was about a month ago, you did an article,
and then you talked about it on your show about Carl Marx's, how do you pronounce it,
Judenfragha?
On the Jewish question.
Yeah.
On the Jewish question, yeah.
And I think when the Jewish question is,
discussed mostly in our circles, it's discussed from the right. And, you know, when you read what
Marx is talking about in the Jewish question and then the reactions to it afterwards, I think
it's important to see exactly how it was coming from the far left. So, you know, you can start
anywhere you want, Dr. Johnson. Well, I don't know why it took me so long. You know, a lot of our people
you know, really don't have the capacity. It's not an easy, it's not an easy article. It's very
early. It's what five years before the Communist Manifesto was, was published. His whole,
you know, philosophy hadn't fully come together yet. And, you know, we don't have a lot of people
who can properly interpret it. Because I know, you know, I spent decades on Hegel.
And the relationship between Hegel and Marx is, you know, minimal, but it's more Feuerbach and Marx.
But the Jewish question was written in response to Bruno Bauer, who for years I thought was Jewish, and he's not.
He's one of these weird atheists types, but talking about what we've been talking about with the Solzhenitsyn stuff, the nature of assimilation.
so this is a very young Karl Marx
and most Marxists try to pretend that he never wrote this
but as I say at the very end of this paper
most of the founders
you know Bakunin Prudhon
several others founders of leftist movements
all were vehemently opposed
to the capital
the domination the Jews had
over Europe.
The statements that Karl Marx makes here are only made by us anymore.
So this kind of sticks out, even though, you know, I first came across it as a young man in his early manuscripts.
And it's funny because the early manuscripts is what the Frankfurt School was trying to stress with the exception of that one.
And as I say in the very beginning of this paper, and I knew this was going to.
going to be a hit. I know people are going to be talking about this. I've got a lot of emails
about it because we kind of vaguely know it's there that he wrote on this, how harsh he was,
but his purpose, that's, you know, that's a separate matter. And I do note that so much of the
secondary literature on this has been written by Jews. In fact, it's very hard to come across
either academic or popular
intellectual popular
that's not
it's not a Jewish name or someone obviously
Jewish so
you know it gets very distorted
and obviously they're never going to ask if
it's true what Marx is saying
but calling Marx and
anti-Semline is very strange
you know
because I say you know Marxism is one of the official
ideologies of the American
University the Western University
So how could we possibly have this, you know, I don't know how many anarchists in the streets know about Prudhoun or Bakunen's views on the Jews?
But it does bear some connection to what we're talking about in Solzhenitsyn.
Because the debates in Germany, well, you know, what was soon to be Germany at this point,
very similar to what we've been talking about.
Now, assimilation, you know, we don't have a full definition of this.
We're going to remain Jews.
And this is the whole question that Bauer brings up.
And this is in response to Bauer's paper of the same name.
And, of course, the whole assimilation idea is strange,
since Jews never considered themselves Russians or Germans.
Generally speaking, didn't speak the language.
And we know what they thought of the people around them.
So the whole concept of emancipation
was really something created for a Gentile audience.
What it comes down to is that because they're Machiavellians
and they're better organized and they have more money,
any sense of emancipation from the various restrictions that they had
would mean, and I quote Moses Hess in this paper saying the same thing,
that it would turn, you know, trying to turn them into,
they would dominate the society totally,
turning the Gentiles into Jews.
Now, allegedly, Bauer made the argument that Jews had to give up their Judaism
if they were to become worthy of equal rights.
And I'm quoting Hal Draper there,
kind of a big name, Jewish intellectual,
but even there.
And Karl Marx actually deals with this.
What is Judaism?
mean here. It's not really
descriptive by itself. It could refer to a culture,
an ethnicity, a religion.
It doesn't say much.
Some of the
naive Gentile boomers still think
that you're talking about, you know, they just go to a different
church than we do.
But Bauer
still was operating under the assumption
that Judaism primarily is a religion,
not an ethnicity,
or even a way of thought.
Now,
Karl Marx,
again Marxism hadn't fully been developed yet
but some of the outlines can be found
Marx criticizes Bauer by saying that he doesn't make the distinction
between political and what he calls human emancipation
human emancipation of course is revolution
political emancipation is just a matter of tinkering reforms
So the political side, the civic side, doesn't require Jews to renounce anything.
It just removes formal restrictions on, you know, like the numerous clauses and things like that.
Now, technically, the human emancipation would involve the disappearance of religion and ethnicity altogether.
But within the hitherto existing world order, as Mark says, it's not possible.
But we all know what that will mean in principle.
practice. So that's what, that's the Marx's essential criticism. There's no need to abolish
any kind of religion with political emancipation. And so, you know, you have to talk about
Hegel a little bit to get this right. In his political theory, there's a, in the philosophy of
right, the central distinction is between civil society and the state.
The fact that those are two different things are, both Hegel and Marks thought were a matter
of alienation.
The state also refers to the nation, not just the government.
Civil society refers to the private sector.
And Hegel being a nationalist, didn't like the idea.
And, of course, they were going to be civil.
synthesized, you know, the family, civil society, that dialectic leads to the state, which uses both.
It's a very profound aspect of nationalist political thought.
In Marx's early view, you know, the party would absorb civil society, and that's where human emancipation would take place.
So that's how he, that's how he begins.
So let me quote Marx here early on in the Jewish question.
He says, the decomposition of man into Jew and citizen, Protestant and citizen, religious man and citizen, is neither a deception directed against citizenship nor is at a circumvention of political emancipation.
It's political emancipation itself, the political method of emancipating oneself from religion.
Of course, in periods where the political state, as such, is born violently out of civil society, when political liberation is a form in which man strived to achieve the liberation,
The state can and must go so far as to abolish religion, the destruction of religion,
but can only do so in the same way that it proceeds to the abolition of private property,
to the maximum, to confiscation, progressive taxation, just as it goes so far, the abolition of life and the guillotine.
And he has certain words, the guillotine is italicized in the original.
Abolition of religion is italicized.
but Marx is well aware
Political emancipation
ultimately turns Gentiles into Jews
because once restrictions on Jewish behavior are lifted
they will come to dominate the economy
and civil society as a whole
both through their money and through their ethnic
cohesion
that means when I take this to the final conclusion
there wouldn't be a Jewish community really
there wouldn't be a Christian one
they all would think this
it would be a Jewish community
but in terms of thought
in terms of basic attitudes
they'd all be thinking the same way
the Jewish community would just be on top
now religion
you know if anyone
you know Hegel was not a
he was an influence on Marx
but he didn't teach you know Marx was 13
when Hegel died
someone who was far closer
was Ludwig Foribach
who I read started reading many years ago
he was an atheist and religion essentially is a human construct
that reflects human suffering
it's a expression of suffering and a protest against it
and even earlier than this marx wrote the critique of Hegel's philosophy of right
really distancing himself from Hegel in general
but you know you can't so carl marks couldn't can't really be talking about religion unless you're talking about the social foundation on which it expresses itself so marks wrote and i think you know most of us know this religious suffering is at one of the same time the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature the heart of a heartless world the soul of soulless conditions it is the opium of the people
which is another way of saying that after the revolution,
religion would wither away.
And I'm always worried about the use of...
Whenever someone uses religion, be very careful.
They're usually just talking about Christianity.
But what this means in actual practice is, you know,
it's going to be a violent abolition of religion
because it's strictly illusory,
although it's justified given capitalism.
But it doesn't matter if they're opposed to it,
because religion is actually a demand for the conditions that gave rise to religion to go away.
That gives socialism its mandate.
They may not know this, but they all want to give up their illusions,
and we're going to make sure that that happens.
Now, beyond that, there is a question of free trade.
Everyone knows that you have, you know, primitive communism, feudalism, capitalism, capitalism, socialism, that's the linear, basic, simplistic description of how history goes in the Marx's system.
Generally speaking, not all the time, but generally speaking, Marx realized that capitalism was an absolutely essential step.
He knew that it was revolutionary.
it is revolutionary. It continues to be revolutionary today.
Capitalism is important, not just because it creates these huge methods of production and money and everything else that the socials will use,
but even more than that, it destroys national boundaries.
And as we've also discussed before, it creates an alienated proletariat,
which according to them, Marxist, doesn't have an identity.
So Karl Marx was vehemently opposed to any, like, you know, List and others of Ficta, who was, of course, earlier, who wanted any tariffs on Prussia, later Germany.
And he talked about sovereignty to Marx was backwards.
The French and the British revolutions, we've got to keep this in mind.
I mean, capitalism is revolutionary for, among other things, it abolishes the church's control over man's passions.
It justifies oligarchy.
E. Michael Jones wrote in one of my favorite books of his back in 2014.
When we say bourgeois revolution, we mean the French Revolution, English Revolution before it, 1848, etc.
Anything but what happened in 1917.
Bouchoir revolutions allowed the rapacious capitalist to gain the upper hand and oppress the poor in a way unknown
when Christianity was the source of the social order.
So, at the time this was written, or throughout Marx's lifetime, the evils of capitalism, especially in the factory system, and especially in the Western world, no one could ignore how evil they were.
At the time, it was the right wing.
It was Catholics, it was certain Lutheran, certain Anglicans that were, you know, they advocated the abolition of capitalism.
Karl Marx made believe that this was, his was the first scientific method of doing it.
but where'd Marks come from?
He kind of exploded onto the scene, as Bakunin will say,
he had Rothschild money to do it.
Only the international version of socialism
is called socialism today.
Not all the other, you know, left nationalism, medievalism,
everything else, national socialism.
And I come across people, whether it be in person
or in like comments
social media
they hear about
the rapaciousness
of the oligarchy
and well
I guess we have to dust off
our copy of capital
or something
and they really believe
that capitalism
and Marxism
are opposites
which they are not
what did the proletariat
mean to Marx
Marx?
Marx says here
and in many other places
that
it's a proletariat
Because they have no identity, according to him, that's the agent to bring about the end of the existing social order.
And he needed to mobilize them, and I say in here, against what we would call, you know, essentially national socialists, you know, List, Herder, Mueller, Fixter, and Germany, the Slavophiles in Russia, all of them striving to preserve their nation against predatory.
ultimately British capitalism through a free trade.
Now, we talked about this with Soltonitin,
but the proletariat is this group of people,
sociologically speaking,
who had to leave the village to go to the cities
to find work in the new factories
during and after the Industrial Revolution.
Usually they were alone.
Their families were back.
But that means that they were subject to new temptations.
They were cut off.
from the village they owned nothing at all that's the foundation of marxism the proletariat
has to rent out his own body you know for 20 hours a day as a worker that level that sort of
person is what's needed for uh the socialist revolution to come later on and i write here
men with a strong sense of ethnicity and religion don't fight for socialism
Remember, there is nothing conservative about capitalism, not its foundation and not its vicious postmodern variant that we live under today.
And Marx and Engels realized that this abstraction, the proletarian, you know, none of them had any real connection to them.
We talked about with the Jews in Russia.
None of these guys had any connection with a working man.
None of them.
Engels was a factory owner of all things who took advantage.
who had mistresses who
worked in his factories
but it's precisely because they were in such a
vulnerable state that
the party can kind of project whatever they want onto them
that kind of alienation made them perfect for this
and as Jones
and many others said
because of Marx in the Rothschild money
that went into him
The reaction against British free trade, which was, you know, Marxian socialism, was Jewish.
And that changed everything.
We talked about, you know, Werner Sombart and how the Jews completely altered how economies function.
Things like advertising, underselling, saying bad things about your competition.
That was unknown in Europe, up until, you know, the late 18th century,
the middle of the 19th century.
Jewish emancipation would mean that that would, the opposite of that,
those evils would become the norm for society.
And this is central.
It makes Jews out of everybody.
So this is what Mark says here.
And this is what gets them into truth.
trouble. And we'll go into
detail here in a little bit.
What is the worldly cult of the Jew?
Huckstring.
What is his worldly God?
Money.
Now, Marxists don't talk like that.
Marx did. As in all the founders have left
this movement.
Angles was very much aware,
given his position,
that Jewish emancipation would mean
the almost a Darwinian rule of Jews over everyone else
or at least
the total exploitation of the poor by the rich
emancipation also meant that they no longer had any of these
revolution especially in the French Revolution
there was no duty as you had in the feudal era
no duty of capital owners to those working for them
Marx argues in this that
the so-called Jewish religion, and it's always in quotes, and he means it that way,
is a reflection, so to speak, of not just Jewish life, Jewish economic life.
And it's true. The religious elements are always secondary to the ethnic element.
Now, his argument from here on in is fairly complex,
but he does say that there was a historical choice that the Jew made
as a huckster, a particularly financially competent one,
and he makes it very plain.
I could picture these young leftists coming across.
Is he allowed to say that special connection between Judaism as a religion and today's economy,
whether it be 1845 or 2025.
Free trade is extremely important for Karl Marx.
And he made his free trade in speech in Brussels.
in 1848, and he says this. He says, generally speaking, the protective system, he means
tariffs, in these days is conservative. While the free trade system works destructively,
it breaks up all nationalities and carries antagonism of proletarian and bourgeoisie to the uttermost
point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. In the revolutionary
sense alone, gentlemen, I am in favor of free trade. So,
In order to bring about so-called human emancipation,
Marx had to destroy everything about the social order
that had at one time protected them, private property, family, religion,
and most importantly, other races and ethnicities, other than Jew.
Now, I talked about projecting whatever they want into this abstract proletarian.
Here's what Engels says.
I quoted this actually from Barron Medal from 2014.
The great mass of proletarians are, by the very nature, free from national prejudices.
And their whole dispensation and movement is essentially humanitarian, anti-nationalists.
Only the proletarians can destroy nationality.
Only the awakening proletariat can bring about fraternization between different nations.
This is what I mean when I say that there's projecting whatever they will.
He has no evidence for that.
Jews
The biggest problem we have
The Jews monopolize the writing
on this and many other issues
concerning Jews
They're blinded by ethnic self-interest
Now let me quote
Hal Draper
I think I mentioned him already
And these Jews have such a tough time with this
They're not really sure what to do with it
Not only because Marx was the founder of socials
But he was a Jew
he says this.
Now he's talking about Bruno Bauer.
Bauer's court argument
that as long as dues remain Jewish,
they are too consumed with Jewish self-interest
and communalism to be worthy of full citizenship.
In effect, Bauer was calling for opposition
to the nation movement for Jewish emancipation in Germany.
His long essay was replete with anti-Semitic themes.
If Jews were ill-treated in the Christian world,
they provoked this mistreatment by their obstinacy.
Jews were not hated because they were misunderstood,
did since true understanding
or not ultimately
the hatred. Jews had lost interest in the progress
of man and concentrated entirely
on personal advantage.
Jews had evolved
no moral principle from their suffering,
etc.
Now, of course, that's true.
Bauer
doesn't even mention if this, or
draper doesn't even
wonder if this is true or false.
It's just anti-Semitic. It's as an argument
argument in and of itself.
We all know why Jews were treated poorly
from time to time in Christensen's society.
Now, I think
Draper, again, one of these Jews who,
you know, you can't ignore this essay
so you have to reinterpret it and mutilate it.
And Draper goes on. He says,
while Bauer echoed the general presidential representation
of the Jew as merchant and money man,
March propels was that in the modern
world, money had become a world power, and the practical spirit of the Jews has become
the practical spirit of Christian peoples. In other words, why become the Jews? The practical
spirit of Judaism is money-making, as Bauer suggests, this hardly distinguishes Jews from the
great array of non-Jewish entrepreneurs, merchants, bankers, who have risen to ascendancying a temporary
society. The idea that the Jew is fundamentally more rooted in money-making than a Christian
is wrong-headed. It's as wrong-headed as the idea that the Jew is less eligible for civil or
political rights.
Historically, it's true that many Jews played a significant role as middlemen between
landowners and tenants, state and taxpayers, capital and consumers, not a few Jews like
the Rothschild family, played a significant role as international bankers, but Marx insisted
that this progressive role played by Jews in the development of capitalism was coming
to an end.
The practical spirit of money-making was as general as a growth of nation-states, national
banks, and national capital.
Now, I'm saying that, you know, Draper speaks for most Jews.
This is a very common way to approach this.
The one thing he can't handle is that Jews created the modern commercial state.
No matter where we're analyzing, Jews come to control a huge share of its mercantile trade
using debt to take huge amounts of property
to themselves from
debtors who go under
this isn't prejudicial
this has been the direct experience of millions
all over Europe
international banking was the Rothschild family
in other words
if you're a socialist
and you believe that
these kind of concentrations of capital
in a few hands
are wrong
why are you ignoring the Jews?
It's all special pleading.
But because
Socialism earlier, you know,
thanks to Marx, socialism early on,
was very Jewish.
They couldn't.
The Jewish religion, so to speak,
which Karl Marx always kind of says, you know,
tongue in cheek.
Of course it doesn't need to disarmes.
disappear. Bauer still thinks of it as a theology. No, Marx sees it as a natural part of a
bourgeois society. In other words, by religion, he means the economic and experience existence
of predatory Jews, the Talmudis. Because Marx knew that practical Judaism was
huckstering, money, and profit-seeking, rent-seeking. Hence, Christians have become Jews,
and ultimately, it's mankind, both.
that needs to emancipate itself from this practical Judaism.
Now, what does he mean by that?
It's another way of saying that Jews have leveraged their financial power
to alter the basic moral code of the societies in which they live.
They were the revolutionary core.
It didn't matter if it was capitalist or socialist.
In poor Russia, they were the core of the Bolsheviks in 1917.
they were the core of the oligarchs in 1992.
You know, when you introduce dishonest fraudulent business tactics into society,
well, Gentiles just can't sit there.
They have to respond.
It's not a prejudice.
This is why Jews get kicked out.
So Draper says something like,
there is no longer any economic basis
for distinguishing between Jew and Gentile
hence no room for legal discrimination
between them. Now Draper
thinks that that's Marx's argument for
emancipation.
He means something a little bit more than that.
Society has been Judaized.
It didn't just happen.
Revolution, you know,
the bourgeois revolution just put a stamp on it.
The key element
is that the influence
of the Jews created what we call
capitalism, economic
modernity.
Although I do note here that
some persecution, as we talked
about with Solzhenitsyn, some
persecution is necessary for the Jews.
They need it. Not too much of it.
We saw
what their very distorted view of the pogroms
meant in Russia.
It created a unified
Jewish body that didn't exist before, or not nearly
to that extent.
So persecution, to exaggerate,
it's absolutely essential.
Remember, all the things, all the restrictions in Russia that we've spoken
out came from very specific reasons.
It didn't just happen.
They didn't just write them in there for fun.
Firstly, it was because of their dishonest business practices.
Then, later, it was their revolutionary violence.
The concept of commerce
changed at this period of time. Marx is looking at the Jews here, but in a good way.
Jews could charge interest to the strangers, that is, you know, William, whoever, but not to each other.
Sambart says that the entire modern conception of ego-driven profit-seeking comes from the Jewish idea of how they treat non-Jews.
Jews see the entire world as hostile.
And their influence would then loosen the bonds of any kind of feudal duties
and replace them with simple individualism.
And that was totally foreign in a Christian Europe.
But Jews can't be talking like that today.
I also cite Hayam Makubi, another Jew.
It's hard to find Gentile writers on this.
I think a lot of them just don't understand it.
Because it is, you know, it's, you have to spend a lot of time putting it together in your brain.
And this is just an example, he says, of Marx's early anti-Semitism.
Marx argues that the modern commercialized world is a triumph of Judaism, a pseudo-religion whose God is money.
Well, that's true.
It's exactly what he's saying here.
But then he says, well, Marx was embarrassed by his Jewish background
and used Jews as a yardstick of evil.
Now, he doesn't give any evidence of this.
But that's, again, another very common theme in these articles
written on this paper.
If you're anti-capitalist, how do you avoid looking at the Jews?
They clearly are in charge of huge chunks
of capital
way out of proportion to their numbers
so the only way out is a special
pleading
pretending it's not there cognitive dissonance
now Sombart did teach me something
in the Jews in modern capitalism which he wrote in 1911
the wealthiest Jews going back
not only either
were Talmudic scholars themselves
or finance them and he says
in page 133
the most learned Talmudists were also
the cleverest financiers, medical men, jeweler's, merchants.
We're told that some of the Spanish ministers of finance, bankers, and court physicians,
that they devoted to the study of the holy writ, meaning the Talmud,
not only in the Sabbath day, but also at least two nights of each week.
Now, I went to a handful of writers like Jones have ever bothered to even talk about this.
Jones mentions it once or twice, not too much.
talking about it systematically is you know
but sometimes it's kind of hard to see how this trajectory is going to go
how do you go from anti-Semite at the same time as being a Jewish revolutionary
and we have spoken of in the Shultanites and stuff the nature of the Enlightenment
whether the Jewish Enlightenment or the Enlightenment in general
and we know the purpose to dissolve tradition
overthrow the monarchy
to destroy religion
so then when you apply it to Christianity
it makes them Jews
Judaism and I agree
with E. Michael Jones
it's their essence is a rejection of logos
and that culminates by definition in revolution
the healing of the world
the German Enlightenment
gave birth the Jewish revolutionary mentality
We talked about in Shultzhenitsin, how these shuttles very quickly, once they were abolished,
became revolutionary communist cells, bringing about the state in the USSR.
And I love it.
Michael Jones says, you know, when the German Enlightenment affected the Jews,
it led to assimilation in the first generation and socially.
in the second.
Christianity didn't dissolve into universal human consciousness, as Bauer thought it might,
but a Christian who is placed in this environment becomes a Jew.
Thus, in Marx's world, they're capable of becoming emancipated.
They all were entitled, egoistic, alienated individuals.
both would attain true freedom
only a society
liberated from Judaism, Karl Marx says,
using the phrase the preconditions of huckstering.
Again, it's the same thing.
This is a nice way of saying the Jews
took over the morals of society
and perverted it in their direction.
Let me quote Marx again in this
and the Jewish question.
The Christian state
can behave towards the Jew
only in a way characteristic of the Christian state
that is by granting privileges.
by permitting the separation of the Jew from the other subject,
making him feel the pressure of all the other separate spirits of society
and feel all the more intensely because he's a religious opposition to the dominant religion.
But the Jew, too, can behave towards a state only in a Jewish way
that is by treating him as something alien to him,
by counterposing his imaginary nationality to the real nationality,
by counterposing his illusory law to the real one,
by dimming himself justified and separating himself from mankind,
by abstaining on principle from taking part in any historical movement,
movement by putting his trust in a future, which has nothing in common, the future of mankind
in general, by seeing himself as a member of the Jewish people, the Jewish people as a chosen
people. That goes away, though, when you make Jews out of everybody, which, you know,
a Freemasonry was supposed to do. The Jewish way, of course, is we all know. We all know how they
view Goim. At best, they're there to be led to the Enlightenment, you know,
or push to the Enlightenment, sometimes by force,
or at worst, they're to be neutralized entirely.
Of course, here we're talking about, you know,
proto-Germany, for the most part, Lutheran.
The Jews saw themselves both as separate and superior.
They can't be given abstract rights.
They're only granted privileges.
Now, Marx goes on to talk about the French Revolution.
and what a right might be.
The French Revolutionary Doctrine says in the rights of man, Article 6,
Liberty is the power which man has to do everything that does not harm the rights of others,
which is quite a defective view of what freedom is.
But we take it for granted.
I mean, Americans take it for granted today.
It's the absence of restraint.
The truth is that that's the removal of Christian principles.
the restraint, and that permitted the explosion of greed that empowered a new class of capitalist
oligarchs, and hence Jewish wealth.
Political emancipation to him means, he's writing about the French Revolution,
is the overthrow of the French monarchy, and of course, the church that went with it.
and he writes about the French Revolution
he also means not just the church and the state but also the guilds and the estates
what's left the ego the individual that leads to materialism
but that's a needed step on a road to capitalist revolution
and then at some point the socialist one
the rights of man are abstract they're not universals
they're abstractions now socialism is as
different story.
They had to destroy religion.
It always interested me.
You know, Russia of all places had functioning in a broad definition of the term
socialist institution, the commune itself, the Artel, the monastery, the Brotherhood of the
Holy Cross, all of these kind of things.
That was the first thing to be destroyed.
The Jewish element of it added something different.
This is what Prudhon had such a problem with it.
It adds this hate-filled element to it.
Now, the revolution, of course, ultimately you really can't talk about the state at all
and certainly can't talk about abstractions like rights.
And obviously, free trade is what, you know, free trade affects less, not just commodities.
It affects labor prices too.
Labor then competes with one another.
So that means for the libertarians, the highest degree of general competition leads by the same necessity.
to drive the workers' wages down to the lowest possible level.
That ultimately is a goal of free trade.
It leads to misery, and according to Marx,
that's absolutely necessary for revolution.
So what does freedom mean, then,
to the proletarian, this imaginary body,
imaginary unit who lacks the resources to do much of anything?
How can he approach the...
What does freedom mean to remain like this?
When he signs a contract, are they equal parties?
Neighbor unions were destroyed, the guilds were destroyed, the estates were destroyed.
Now, I'm going to get to the heart of the matter here.
This is what people either pro or con take out of the Jewish question.
Here's what Mark says.
And I kind of summarized what we've been saying so far.
Let's consider the actual worldly Jew, not the religious Jew, the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.
let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion,
but let us look for the secret of his religion in the Jew.
What's the secular basis of Judaism?
Practical need, self-interest.
What's the worldly religion of the Jew? Huxring.
His God is money.
An organization of society, which would abolish the preconditions for Huckstring,
and therefore the possibility of Huxring would make the Jew impossible.
We recognize in Judaism, therefore, a general anti-social element of the present time,
an element which through historical development
to which this harmful respect
the Jews have zealously contributed
has been brought to the present level
at which it must necessarily begin to disintegrate
in the final analysis
the emancipation of the Jews
is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism
the Jew has emancipated himself
in a Jewish manner
not only because he's acquired financial power
but also because
through him and also apart from him
money has become a world power
and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations.
The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews.
That sentence is the core of the book, or of the essay.
The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews.
So Marx is very clear.
Judaism cares about that, not the mystification,
of the synagogue, he doesn't care about that.
The real Jew,
he lives in service to Mammon.
Jews have poisoned Christian life.
So Christians,
or most of them, have become materialists.
Christians have become Jews.
Emancipation, because it's just an abstraction,
that would unleash total huckstring.
It's a dominant norm.
Rights are abstract, but the real Jew is not.
Let me continue.
This is what Mark.
Marx says, again, in the same essay,
The monotheism of the Jew, therefore,
is in reality the polytheism of the many physical needs,
a polytheism which makes even the lavatory an object of divine law.
Of course, he's talking about the Talmud.
Practical need, egoism,
its principle of civil society,
and as such appears in pure form,
as soon as civil society has fully given birth to the political state.
Money is a jealous God of Israel.
The face of which no other God may exist,
money degrades all the gods of man,
turning them into commodities.
Money is a universal self-established value of all things.
It has, therefore, robbed the whole world, both the world of men and nature, of its specific value.
Money is the estranged essence of man's work and man's existence, and this alien essence dominates the Jew, and he worships it.
The God of the Jews has become secularized, has become the God of the world.
The Bill of Exchange is a real God of the Jew.
His God is only the illusory bill of exchange.
The view of nature attained under the domination.
of private property and money is a real contempt for and practical debasement of nature.
In the Jewish religion, nature exists.
It's true, but it exists only in their imagination.
Now, those two quotes that I just, when anyone talks about it kind of from our side, that's what they bring up.
There's a pretty surprise to hear stuff like that.
But what Marx is saying is that, you know, Judaism is not a religion.
It's almost a cover for everything.
It's a revolutionary doctrine.
You know, people like Draper is a dynamic spirit of the present.
The spirit of practical rationality in private gain,
which is just another word for British free trade, oligarchy, imperialism.
A lot of people don't realize.
It isn't just, you know, even right up until almost the 20th century,
the concept of competition
in the way that we think of the term
in the economic marketplace
was something very foreign
to European cities.
I want to quote
Werner Sombard here.
To take away your neighbor's customers
was contemptible, un-Christian,
and immoral.
A rule for merchants who trade in commodities was
turn no man's customers away from him
either by word of mouth or by letter
and do not another
what you would not have another note do to you.
It was, however, more than a rule, it became an ordinance.
It's met with over and over again.
In Mayence, the wording is as follows.
No one shall prevent another from buying or by offering a higher price, make a commodity dearer for more expensive.
On pain of losing his purchase, no one shall interfere in another's business undertaking or carry out his own on so large a scale as to ruin the other traders.
In Saxony, it's the same thing.
No shopkeeper can call away the customers from another shop, nor shall he be.
be signed by signs or emotions, keep them from buying.
Even having a sign outside your shop was out of the question.
Advertising was out of the question.
It was stability, not profit.
That was the ideal of European commerce.
Advertising was vulgar.
That was something also brought in by Jewish traders.
And in Sombart cites a huge number of local laws and ordinances from
17th century, 18th century
in Europe
but wherever the Jews became
more numerous, more powerful, more wealthy
they were able to uproot that system.
That was Mark's response to Bauer.
The feudal must give way
to the mercantile or the capitalist.
That's a necessary step to revolution
before socialism could even be considered.
And Jews were a central element
to both transitions.
Essentially, it was a non-inquisitive society.
Almost impossible for us to really understand.
I mean, isn't that just because we've been completely Judaized, as he said.
I mean, there's, you can say what you want about Marx.
His analysis is correct in much of this.
And Sombard's book, Jews and Modern Capitalism, is important to understand this,
that there is nothing we do in finance or in business that that isn't Jewish.
We take it for granted.
It all comes from them.
And we praise it because we've been told that people in the Middle Ages or people,
you know, people 500 years ago, well, you know, they had no happiness.
They were slaves.
They were slaves on the land.
They didn't own their land.
Yada yada.
You had to have the black plague in order to have private ownership of property.
and, I mean, you can find just as many historians
to say this is complete nonsense.
Yeah, I don't even think they know how to conceive of it.
It took me a while to be able to put it together in my brain.
Because we remember, conservatives, you know, when I was, you know,
17, 18, I got into the conservative movement.
Capitalist competition was a wonderful thing.
We had to read Adam Smith.
You know, this was a great thing.
not realizing just how viciously revolutionary was.
Yeah, it might work in a, you know, in a small town where everyone knows everybody,
which is really the perfect capitalist hypothetical situation that Adam Smith has in mind.
But now we're talking about national and supernational scales.
Sambart says, a peasant had his land, the town dweller, his customers.
In either case, there were the source when sprang his livelihood.
In either case, they were of a size sufficient for his purpose.
Hence, the trader had to be short of his custom, and many were the ordinances which guarded him against competition.
It was basically commercial etiquette.
He says, competition was therefore out of the question.
Even look in your neighbor's direction was a problem.
It was stability.
Marks, and that's why I bring up Sombard in this paper.
I knew I had to.
Otherwise, you can't really make sense out of it.
What does Karl Marx mean where Christians have become Jews?
And you see how people like Hal Draper have tried to reverse it.
Like, this is perfectly normal for Christians.
They're rich and inquisitive Christians, too, right?
And either he doesn't know or he doesn't care.
That wasn't the case, by and large, not that long ago.
so what colonel marks generally says
along right with sombard many years later
profit seeking at the expense of another was a jewish practice
that spreads to the rest of society
and that's what sombart has shown
let me quote marks again from you know part two
of zyridine frog or um jewish question
christianity is a sublime thought of judaism
Judaism is a common practical application of christianity
But this application could only become general after Christianity
as a developed religion had completed theoretically
the estrangement of man from himself and from nature.
Only then could Judaism achieve universal dominance
and make alienated man and alienated nature
into endable, vendable, sellable objects
subject to slavery of egoistic need and to trading.
Selling is a practical aspect of alienation.
Just as man, as long as he's in a grip of religion,
is able to objectify his essential nature
only by turning it into something alien,
something fantastic,
so under the dominion of egoistic need,
he could be active practically
and produce objects in practice,
only by putting his products and his activity
under the dominion of an alien being,
bestowing the significance of an alien entity money on them.
Religion for Marx
is alienating because it involves transferring the essence of man,
which came from Foribach onto some entity.
For Jews, though,
They did the same thing.
Instead, that entity was money.
So when their power reaches a certain critical mass,
you know, you have the reformation, especially Calvinism,
money making becomes almost a commandment,
the scientific revolution coming from alchemy and the Kabbalah.
You know, it posited man as ruling nature, not as a part of it.
Judaism took a huge, you know, in Calvin
and the Puritans.
This is Judeanized
semi-Christianity.
And Marx continues.
In its perfected practice, Christian egoism
of heavenly bliss is necessarily transformed
into corporeal egoism
of the Jew. Heavenly need is turned into world need,
subjectivism, into self-interest.
We explained the tenacity of the Jew,
not by his religion, but on the contrary,
by the human basis of his religion,
practical need, egotism.
Since in civil society, the real nature of the Jew
has been universally realized and secularized,
civil society could not convince the Jew
of the unreality of his religious nature.
This is indeed just the ideal aspect
of his practical need.
But people still stubbornly see it as a theology.
Once the Jew comes out of his, you know,
nonsense and totally dominates the society,
it creates the conditions for what he calls a miseration,
for Gentile workers.
Amiseration, meaning bringing them to such a point of misery that they can't function anymore
and revolution is almost assured.
What came to my mind right there is?
Yeah.
The Gentiles that brag about working 16 hours a day and how hard they work.
Where did that come from?
Oh, that's, is that the Protestant work ethic?
Oh, okay.
Maybe think about that.
And then out of that came masonry, and out of that came the scientific revolution and then the industrial revolution.
You know, I think the reason that Jews or a socialist of all types can't handle this document is because it is an accurate portrayal of the Machiavellian economic thought and action of the Jews at the time and among Gentiles in general.
That's why the secondary literature is almost overwhelmingly in the hands of Jewish authors.
usually they can't even contain their emotion
the Jew changed the moral economy of Christian Europe
this is part of Marx's whole philosophy of history
let me quote Sambard again
and this is why it's so important to quote him
relative to Karl Marx on the Jews
and complaints against the Jews
he says now in a community where quality was regulated
the only effective means of achieving this end
economic dominance was price cutting
You shall therefore not be surprised to find Jews availing themselves of this weapon.
We shall see that it was just this that made them so disliked among Christian traders,
whose economic outlook was all for maintaining prices.
The Jew undersells.
The Jew spoils prices.
The Jew tries to attract customers by low prices, artificially low prices.
That was the burden of the complaints heard in the 17th and 18th centuries,
wherever Jews did business.
That concept was completely.
foreign to Christian society.
And then by the time Charles Darwin, you know, built the survival of the fittest, that
was music to the years of these people.
Charles Darwin had far more significance than Adam Smith on capitalism.
And of course, Karl Marx was a huge devotee of Darwin.
So I bring Sambard into this only because he just piles on the evidence that
through most of
Christian European history
what we take for granted
the competition and advertising
and underselling and stuff like that
was not just not the norm
it was a horrible thing to do to somebody
Poland
he talks about the Swedish part
he has so many examples here
there's no denying it
Brandenburg Frankfurt
Maggabird
you know
It's the exact same thing over and over again.
And he quotes so many people in the supplication of Augsburg in the 19th century.
Wholesale merchants against the admission of the Jews,
it says that the Jews understand how to derive advantages from the general depression of trade.
They obtain goods from people who need money badly at shameful prices,
then spoil the market by selling them at a cheaper rate.
That seems kind of, oh, well, you know, most people.
people is not what you do. Evil drove out the good because while being good is difficult,
and evil was very well organized. It was a moral economy and it gave way to capitalism and
free trade, the stages of revolution. And of course, Bolivism, the Jewish left took over entirely.
That's because the ego was set free that couldn't have come into existence,
had the enlightenment. And British free trade,
not become the norm.
And it's interesting.
We say, well, how did the Jews, how could they be underselling all the time?
Well, one, they were taken often by dishonest means.
How many times did I say in Russia, the Jews functioned as a mafia organization?
They rarely paid taxes.
They hid from the census.
Second, cheap goods came from the fire sales.
You know, once a debtor is liquidated?
And three, inferior quality.
People were talking about the inferior quality of their product
because they tried to hide using advertising and PR to manipulate the buyer.
The mafia concept, that's how they operate.
And Russia became a science.
And the only thing that keeps that from becoming known
is their control of the press and the legal profession,
all brought about by what Marx calls political emancipation.
Now, we have to stop here.
The rest of my paper on this is not necessarily connected with the Jewish question, Marxist Jewish question.
My point is that even leftists, you know, here's what Bakunin says.
And again, the founder of anarchism in Russia.
Yeah, well, I shouldn't say, Prudhon, Kupotkin, Bakunin, there were the three founders of anarchism.
Bakunin writes on the study of the German Jews, he said,
the Jewish sect constitutes a veritable power in Europe.
It reigns despotically in commerce and banking.
It has invaded three quarters of German journalism
and a very significant part of the journalism of other countries.
Then woe to him, who makes the mistake of displeasing it.
Now, that actually was quoted disapprovingly by Draper in his article.
And Bakunen said that Marx and Engels were on the book.
Rothschild payroll. He said it many times. That's why he got kicked out of the first
international. But now you have a man of Karl Marx's stature,
Bakunin's stature, as far as the left is concerned, saying this kind of thing.
Give up a Pekunin says, himself a Jew, Marx has around him in London and France,
but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile,
speculating Jews everywhere. Commercial, banking agents, writers, politicians,
correspondents for newspapers, one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement.
Now this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of bloodsuckers,
a single gluttonous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders,
but across all differences of political opinion.
The Jewish world today stands at the most part at the disposal of Marx,
and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild.
That may seem strange, Bukunan asked.
but there can be in common between communism and the large banks
the communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization
in the state and where such exists
it must inevitably be a central state bank
and where such a bank exists the parasitic Jewish nation
which speculates on the work of the people
will always find a way to prevail
now
Bakunin is not a nobody
he's one of the major names in early anarchism
You come across, you know, and the Antifa claims to be anarchists, generally speaking.
I don't think they came across this.
But leftist anti-Jewish thinking terrifies the Jews.
In fact, most of the founders of the main Jewish leftist schools in this era talk like this.
Leftist anti-Semitism is a Jewish nightmare.
P.J. Prudan, I will end here.
PJ Prudhomme, who actually came up with the word anarchism to describe his movement.
I always liked him.
He's an atheist, but everything else seems pretty solid.
He also created the phrase, property is theft.
Now, this was only a note to himself, December 26, 1847.
He's saying, you know, this is like a note.
He says, write an article, you talk to himself, write an article against the race that poisons everything by sticking its nose into everything without ever mixing with any other people.
Demand is expulsion from France.
Abolished synagogues.
Don't let them into any employment.
Demand this expulsion.
Pursue the abolition of this religion.
It's not without cause that the Christians call them deosites.
The Jews the enemy of man.
The Jew must disappear by steel or.
or by fusion or by expulsion.
The hatred of the Jew, the hatred of the English,
should be our first article of political faith.
I don't think anarchists know this about their founders.
This means that the founders of the socialist left in the 19th century,
Prudhomme, Marx, and Bakunen,
all have come to the same conclusions.
Even Moses has, despite, you know,
he says this exact same thing
I have him so we don't have time
but he wrote an essay in
1945
same time Marks wrote his
our year after
called the essence of money
he says pretty much the same thing
the main minds
the 19th century that created what we call the left
all say the same thing
regarding the role of Jews and capital
their takeover public morals.
So when we say those things,
but we're just saying what you said,
you know,
100 or so years ago,
maybe 150 years ago.
Yet for people like Hess and Marx,
the way ahead was to increase the power
of the,
what did they call money wolves,
to reduce the proletariat to hopeless poverty,
and then take advantage of their alienation
to take over the mass of animals,
because that's what has said,
entirely and call it a labor paradise.
Pruton didn't give a damn about emancipation.
In fact, he came very close to defining anarchism,
and he's the one who came up with the word,
as freedom from usury.
And Bakunin was very close.
And I bring this up because this is exactly what Marx was talking about.
All of this, in his mind,
is a positive thing though
I guess the only big difference
don't pretend the Jew isn't anything
than what he is
but without the Jew of course
future revolution
is impossible
capitalism is revolutionary
free trade
is meant to destroy
national about borders meaning
ethnicity
mix everyone up
the Jewish element is very
element is very important, as we know,
that Rothschild is in Britain.
And then once the proletariat
becomes the norm in their miserable condition,
then at some point you'll have
bolshevism.
You know, one of the things that
people listening to this will
say, because this is all coming
from the left, is that
well, you know, that undercutting
of prices and making things cheaper,
that just made people on the
ground wealthier. That just made
the average man, the average man now could have things that only wealthy people could have
before, you know, without asking at what cost.
Because you're just, it's, when you take that route, it's purely materialistic.
When the metaphysical disappears, family disappears, a coherent society and culture disappears.
because all you have to do is look around.
I mean, where's the coherent, where's, you know, where's the coherent society?
Where is the love of family and caring about where you came from when, you know, if you
inherit your family land, you're willing to sell it to the highest bidder so you can go
and live in the best zip code, you know, that you're told on TV is where you want to live,
then people will, you know, admire you, people just don't take into consideration.
They think that what I'm saying right now is complete like socialism and leftism.
They think that there's a black and a white, that there's socialism and there's capitalism
and that there's absolutely no in between.
Well, no, it's both of them need to be a, there's another way.
there are many other ways, but you just don't understand it because this is what you've been taught
and you've been taught by this group.
I mean, you know, to say that they control everything is, it's a bad argument.
And it's an argument that your enemies make against you that they'll use, the Jews will use
against you.
They'll be like, oh, you say we control everything.
control everything you don't have to control yeah yeah yeah you you don't have to control
everything if you have people if if if you're overrepresented in certain places no one's saying
that you know the average jew who's just going to work back and forth and is watching
Seinfeld reruns at night is controlling is controlling anything they may vote poorly or
you know, whatever, but this is, if you don't understand, if you don't read like what Sambart
wrote and what, and even what Marx wrote here, you don't understand what your predicament is
right now and where we are and why you're fighting so hard to keep the status quo or basically
you're trying to make their system better. Socialism in general, up until Marx, and even
Even afterwards, socialism was a right-wing phenomenon.
Capitalism was revolutionary.
There was nothing.
You know, if we can picture the factory in 1850 in London,
I don't think people comprehend the evil.
How many kids were killed there?
Because they were, you know, I trial labor and everything else.
This is a cost of modernity.
it was Thomas Carlyle
it was the royalists
the social monarchists you had
national social
social nationals of all stripes
going back even before the industrial
revolution
opposing the scientific revolution
opposing the rule of money as time went on
the industrial revolution
at the time this was written
no one could deny that the factory system
was evil
no one could possibly see
that system and think that this is good.
And the agrarian movement, the royalists, the monastic, all of this, Russia produced so much
of it.
I've talked about it at great length.
The Brotherhood of the Holy Cross is one of my favorites.
But because of a certain level of control over academic life, well, I don't like capitalism.
Therefore, I have to become a Marxist.
or maybe an anarchist
because there's nothing else
and that's wrong on two levels
number one
there are not opposites
and number two
I mean no one exploited
the same factory system exists
in the Soviet Union
with far greater
levels of
exploitation
far greater levels
you know you had no days off
in the late
Leninists in the Stalinist era
it was absolutely
vicious
and they tried to turn
in the collective system
in the countryside
to make even the farm
life of factory
that's what the collective
farm was
everything was to be mechanized
everything was to be a big robotic
machine
that's not
you know
nothing changed in that regard
so
there's certainly
not opposite
the other reason is that
there are so many other options
that you have no access to
there's so many great right
but Thomas Carlyle just comes to mind
because he was
God I spent a lot of time
talking about them
but the east and the west
so many great writers
condemning this system
Chesterton for that matter
didn't Spengler
compare the city to the army barracks
where you're just
You just go there
You live in this barracks
And then you go to work
And good luck
Good luck getting home
You're
Well yeah
That was their life of the proletarian, yeah
Yeah
You're just as liable to die on the job
As you would on the battlefield
Yeah, it's called human sacrifice
Yeah
And that's the cost of all this
yeah and if people don't realize that that is what that marks was right and that was going to lead
to what he wanted in the end well look around you just because you can still own a house
and go on vacation doesn't mean we're not you know headlong heading you know going right
into exactly what marks wanted because we're come you know mark said that capitalism
was needed to be there, needed to exist to completely de-rassonate people from their families,
from their religions, from everything.
And here we are.
And that, and that was, that was, you know, Marx's point.
That's why he was so in favor of free trade.
And, I mean, he knew he was a Jew, of course, but he acts like he's, you know, above it all.
And he, he says, you know, the Jews are absolutely necessary because, you know, and he's,
Of course, he's making fun of them.
He's trying to show that they're not who they say they are, obviously.
But this is really, and he mentions it in a few other places, but not many.
And there is simply no way to be honest and not noticed the fact that capitalism, that huge chunks of financial,
even industrial capital, whatever that's left in the West, is in the hands of Jewish financiers.
You know, 2% of the population.
There's no getting out of that.
Here's the last sentence of my paper on this.
And I say today's Jews and leftist professors in general have become intellectually soft
because they never have to even answer a question as to whether or not any of this is true.
Screaming anti-Semitism is an argument in and of itself.
And the EU, the law is clear.
One goes to prison for even.
been mentioning these issues.
In the mainstream economic world, Jewish academics, and public intellectuals never have
to worry about refuting these charges or anything else like this, because they never hear
them.
They know them only through caricature.
But this means they're not only intellectually lazy, hiding behind walls of law enforcement
and censorship, but they also have a very narrow view of the world around them.
Then soon, they assume their ideology is incontrovertible fact, since they have access to
nothing else. Unfortunately, historical reality doesn't bend that easily. So the Jewish question,
ultimately, is a Jewish role, not so much in the socialist revolution, but in the capitalist
one. Judaism is not a religion. Get rid of that concept, he says. Bauer makes that huge
mistake. Judaism is about the revolutionizing of the entire society. That's what free trade and
capitalism is. That's why I had to talk about Sambar. And it took me a while to put the two
together. Wait, this is exactly what Sambart's talking about. I'm pretty sure I'm the first one
to ever bring those together in that regard. Because in the Jewish question, that's exactly
what Marx is saying. They've turned the moral economy into a Jewish one. They've turned Christians
into Jews.
And that's really the point.
Now, of course, you know, there is nothing non-socialist
about the Bolsheviks.
Lenin was a Marxist.
He knew Marx very well, intellectually speaking.
There's no reason to believe that it wasn't real socialism.
I hate that argument.
And if you ever hear it, you just say, well, this is a real capitalism then.
Anyone could say that.
Now, it's exactly what Marx wanted, as Bakunin said, total centralization.
But to think that Marxism and postmodern capitalism are opposites is absolutely absurd.
They're the same enlightenment ideology.
I think the Soviets spent more time physically.
punishing people while in the West, they psychologically do it.
I'm not sure which is worse, although the physical part is getting worse as time goes on.
And I think the psychological part may last longer.
So that's my understanding of Karl Marx's on the Jewish question, its purpose,
and why I think we have to bring people like Sambart into it to explain Marx's statement
that Christians have become Jews.
And that's exactly what Marx means by that.
All right.
Well, we will be back to our regular programming
in a couple of days of recording 200 years together.
But in the meantime, as I always do,
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dr johnson how did a jewish woman get elected mexican president
Well, the shock is why no one's really talking about it.
She isn't just a Jew, you know, with a blatantly Jewish name.
You know, she comes from a communist background.
And, you know, she's a feminist.
Her opponent was a feminist.
Not a Jew, but she might as well have been one.
How does that happen?
You know, it was a bizarre situation, and I found, I think, one article.
from Lou Rockwell on the topic.
I think maybe one on like the American conservative.
And that's about it.
And I think when I did this on Radio Albi and I said,
why is no one talking about her?
The question is, how does a Roman Catholic country
with men in the millions known for their machismo
come to elect a woman like this,
where her big issues are, you know, fags and drag queens
and claim that it's a fair election.
How many Jews are there in Mexico?
There's about 40,000.
150 million population.
I remember hearing about her for the first time,
and I said, how is this even possible?
And I figured, well, the fixes got to be in.
And, of course, it was true.
And one of the ways I knew it was the media referring to her early on as a winner.
Not only that, she's going to win by a landslide.
This is long before they knew anything about the election.
And every newspaper article uses the word historic
and that she is the first female or first woman president and the first Jew in some combination of that.
They all say the exact same thing.
now being the first woman doesn't mean anything
being the first
Jew does mean something
so in other words
a huge in the landslide
mind you
a huge number of Mexicans voted
a Jew left us to be
to be president
of their country
and she comes from
this is
she comes
and she's pure-blooded
as well.
And I actually, you know, I'm going to go into her family background, which is very, very depressing.
Her family comes from the Communist Party, not just in Mexico, but also Cuba and the USSR.
Now, the one thing interesting about the way these elections go, this happens a lot in Latin America.
There's a lot of parties in Mexico.
and they have a first round and then there's a runoff and, you know,
but the first round, she got less than 40% of the vote, which still is massive.
She was also mayor of Mexico City and in a suburb, Flaupon.
For that, she won not quite 30%.
It was in 2015.
It was a suburban town.
The very first round for, actually, the first round for Mexico City was 15%.
What am I saying?
For Tlop on it, it was, it was just under 30.
And, of course, won both elections massively afterwards.
So it's a runoff system, given the large number of parties.
So given preferences in the system, she's about 15%
20% of the population at most
but given the runoff system
somehow she wins
I don't think it's a system
I think there's a lot more going on here
remember the Biden fraud
we see a lot of the same things here
but it's not nearly as blatant
now I don't claim to have the expertise
in Mexico like I do elsewhere
but I certainly know
comparative politics international relations
and I certainly know fraud and deceit
where I see it
Now this was last year
24
The media declared her
The winner long before
The voting ended
This is a very bad thing
To do
It means people aren't going to go
In fact
They were talking about landslide victory
Why would you vote
If the media keeps saying
She's going to win in the landslide
If you're opposed to her
The press was 100% behind her
And despite the
laws, which semi- forbid this, there was a massive amount of Jewish and leftist money flooded
into Mexico from abroad.
And some of these articles about her, remember, it's like in 92, 93, about Hillary, Hillary
Clinton, they were just, they were gushing.
They were so, so absurd about her, you know, she's glowing, she's, she's this almost
goddess, you know.
She represents the National Regeneration Movement, Marina.
And not only did she get elected president, but both houses of the legislature, they have even supermajorities.
And, of course, she's trying to stifle the courts.
We'll talk about that in a little bit if we get to it.
I find that interesting that she is a climate scientist.
I mean, could you get any more convenient here?
That guarantees her tons of NGO support.
Now, the claim, the National Electoral Institute, which he's trying to get rid of now, said that she won almost 60% of the vote in runoff, which is over 30 percentage points ahead of her rival, So Cheat Galvez.
I don't know how they get so cheap out of X-O-C-H-I-T-L, which is a woman's name down there.
But that's how it's pronounced. I've been told.
But still, even Al Jazeera said that the landslide, even though local media was claiming this, international media wasn't.
And the landslide, although they were saying it, was much larger than people had expected.
Remember they were saying that Biden had the most votes of anyone in American history?
Even more than Obama's second term?
Same thing goes here.
The largest percentage of votes of any candidate in recent history.
of Mexico. She's allegedly the follower of
Lopez Obrador, the former president
who himself is iffy about this.
And it just doesn't make any political sense to me.
She said, I will become the first
woman president of Mexico, she declared. And that was before
the elections and claims of a landslide.
now they keep referring to this she's a first woman i don't what differences that make
female leaders have not been different in a lot of ways than male leaders have
being jewish that certainly does matter i guess she gets more NGO backing that way
her ethnicity explains quite a bit of course they were both feminists
both of these candidates somehow somehow in mexico those those are the two choices
And even beyond that, the Mexican right wing, which was very in disarray right now, started its campaign very confident in victory.
But neither candidate was on the right whatsoever.
So it's not just until, you know, it's deeper than just her winning the presidency.
But I have a book out on Latin American dictators, so-called military dictators.
during the Cold War.
And there's a huge information block on the right wing,
because even the church supports the left in many places down there.
And military leaders in so many Latin American countries
have this been condemned without any conception of why they're there,
what they were doing,
and it turns out that the majority of them were very good men
that the U.S. did not support.
I go through a lot of them.
I, of course, can't go through all of them.
There are so many.
but the left has such a tight control of information coming out of Latin America.
Any Spanish speaker, Portuguese-speaking country, that it's really tough to get to the heart of the matter.
So one of these really bad articles I found was from Jacobin, you know, the French Revolutionary movement.
Name of a magazine came out in 2024 written by Noah Manzer, romanticizing this woman beyond belief.
Menzer, is that, what's that Irish?
Yeah, M-A-Z-E-R, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's him, yeah.
It may be from, maybe Sikh, yeah.
From Bangladesh.
Anyway, I like, you know,
Jocobin and Wikipedia, these places,
I go to them to see what the regime is thinking about something.
The Wikipedia is very good for that.
Now, the two people who matter in her family history,
These are the people who founded Marxism in Latin America, or at least Mexico and Cuba.
Her father and her uncle.
Sorry, her grandfather and her uncle.
Shane, although this is spelled C-H-O-N-E somehow, and Solomon Scheinbaum.
They were born in the Russian Empire, of course, Lithuania.
They migrated to Mexico in the early 20th century.
That's grandfather and great-uncle.
these are communists
and of course
Manzer of course
romanticizes them
beyond belief
I couldn't even read it
after a while
and this gives a huge
a lot of information
about her background
and ideology
you know
they were born and raised
around the time
we're talking about
with the Solzhenitsyn thing
they left in
I think it was in 1913
they left to the US
they returned to Europe
a year later, they went to Poland, 1914,
then again, Lithuanian, 1920.
You know, going back and forth,
we've talked about that when the Schultzhenitsen thing.
Trotsky did it.
A lot of these revolutionaries were moved from place to place,
mobilizing Jewish opinion.
But given that they were of, you know,
there were Jewish, you know, Jews living in Lithuania,
going back to Lithuania was a problem.
The Communist Party was outlawed as after the fall of,
of the monarchy after the Lithuanian Soviet war.
There was a very short-lived Lithuanian People's Republic.
And the leadership, there's a bunch of Jews in it, but the entire leadership, but the
Jewish or not, were from the land, they were either landowners or very powerful merchants.
The upper crust of the society.
So they trying to get to the United States.
again and apparently their way was blocked or so mansor tells us they wound up they wound up
in in in cuba well let me say can i ask a question here okay so my my great my great
grandparents on my mom's side where my grandmother came here um from um the galicia area in
like 1910 and 1911 respectively they never went back
they couldn't afford to go back if they wanted to they didn't send money back they couldn't
afford to send money back if they wanted to how the hell are these people going from from
russia to new york to lithuania to cuba eventually to mexico how the hell and and these aren't
huge names in like the communist movement these are just probably foot soldiers how the hell are they
doing this? Yeah, they were not from a poor family to begin with. They're obviously not an
oppressed minority, as they'd love for you to believe. Jocobin likes you to believe that, but doesn't
explain where the money came from. And at some point, one of them becomes a jewelry merchant.
Like, you can't just become a jewelry merchant. He doesn't ask where this money comes from.
Trotsky went wherever he wanted, but all these Jews go back and forth because they're mobilizing
people. They're bringing money back. They're bringing
men back. Trotsky was
known for that.
So the Scheimbram brothers
landed in Cuba
instead of the U.N.
And helped form
the Communist Party of Cuba immediately.
I don't know how. They didn't even speak
Spanish. It's like
there's chunks missing here
that these guys can do this.
The party even had a Jewish
section. Brand
new party in Cuba in 1914, or 1917, with a Jewish section.
They didn't know Spanish, but somehow Jews had a strong presence in the PC,
the Communist Party of Cuba.
Four of the parties, 13 members, founding members were Jewish.
I think it's more than that.
There were a few Chinese there, too, somehow.
There was a large Chinese presence in Cuba.
But why would the party have a
Jewish section at all.
Now, the party was outlawed in Cuba under Gerardo Machado.
Military government made necessary by Jewish revolutionary violence, including two
attempts to assassinate him.
They act like these people just took over because they love power.
He was a liberal at one time, Machado was.
But he moved to the right once the communist was, you know, trying to kill him.
The left became more brazenly violent.
Their aliases were.
were, and they stuck with them.
And it kind of makes me laugh.
Shane became Arturo Ramirez,
and Solomon took the name Garcia Blanco.
And eventually, Machado had them deported to Mexico.
Did the same thing in Mexico.
They land there, joined the fairly new Mexican Communist Party.
I've been outlawed at the time for terrorism,
but its leadership wasn't Mexican.
There was an Indian guy,
Manabendra, Roy, Indian leftist, Japanese journalist Katayama, San Katayama, and an American, who was a newspaper editor, which I mentioned, Bertram Wolf, also Jewish.
Bertram Wolf is interesting because he became a supporter of Trotsky and is one of the founders of the neo-conservative movement.
And I say that because, and his intellectual trajectory is precisely where the neocons came from.
Once he perceived the solemnness completely taking over, once Trotsky was axed, he became so anti-Soviet that he became an anti-communist altogether.
In fact, there were so many emigres from Cuba that they had their own organization in Mexico.
Again, there's all these missing pieces.
The brothers became members of the Central Committee in the Mexico City branch.
Solomon became the head of the party finances
Somehow
And then it's
Propaganda section
He was editor of El Soviet
The party newspaper
I love this
You just put Elle in front of something
And it's in Spanish
And apparently there was a
Even though there was a tiny handful of Jews in Mexico
They were one of the most politically dominant
elements of the country
at the time. A leftist, of course.
The rise of Mexico's Jewish left,
Manzer says, like this is a normal thing
to talk about.
The party was the Jewish left.
And they, you know, the ridiculousness,
they created the radical workers
center to organize
Jewish workers.
Jewish workers in Mexico
as if there were any such a thing.
Now, the radical workers' center was
another one. There were no Jewish workers. There was no Jewish
proletariat. There was a bunch of a proletariat in Mexico at all.
And the exact same behavior
occurred in Mexico as it had in Cuba. Emilio Gil,
as he was leaving office, they tried to kill him a few times,
broke off relations with the Soviet Union. He arrested the leaders of the
Communist Party in Mexico. It was rioting that paralyzed parts of the
capital, such as to the university. The left tried to
kill him on the inauguration day of the new president, Pascal Rubio.
So, all the foreign communists, the Italian Tina Modati,
Yuri Rossovsky, of course, a Jew from Ukraine, and Mexican ones were were imprisoned.
But Shane, though, somehow passed himself off as a Mexican.
Solomon didn't.
I'm not sure how that happened.
Shane may have looked less Jewish than Solomon.
but Shane
rejoined the Central Committee
of the party's Mexico City unit
he eventually became leader of the party
in the 7th Congress in 1939
and then of course
under the president of Lazaro Cardenas
who was a leftist but not a communist
he allowed the party to be legalized but they were not part of his
coalition
Leon Trotsky was still alive and apparently there was a
huge amount of debate as to
what to do with this guy
here.
There was a great interest in Latin America
in the Communist International.
But even the left
forbade immigration
by Africans, non-Japanese
Asians, Soviet citizens,
gypsies, and Jews
under Cardinah. So even the left had
enough of this.
But
under Stalinism, you know, these two brothers
grandparents of
well uncle and great
grandfather of the current
Mexican president
they kind of went with the flow
whoever was dominant they went with
they were not theoreticians
they needed to unify the party
under Stalinism they even
formed a purging commission
Trotsky condemned them
he said that they were running a
show trial on Moscow's behalf
that was in March
1939 Trotsky was axed in November
Eventually they even turned their guns on shame
Solomon was released from prison
Went to the Soviet Union, no problem
Join the Communist Party
And because he was in Latin America for so long
He was part of the Common Turn's executive committee there
He was expelled from the party again in 1936
So both brothers have been purged in two different places
That's when Shane, after his expulsion, moved to Ulyssgo and became a jewelry merchant.
Somehow the cash was there.
But, you know, most of these communist leaders were very wealthy men, even if they weren't wealthy before.
So then, and I said they just went with whoever was in power.
Shane wrote a very sniveling confession in 1954.
And I had to do that.
Please don't kill me.
I'm wrong.
I did everything wrong.
I'm so sorry, please.
And they accepted him in 1954.
But then Manzer is very sad because, let me quote him directly,
the Jewish left in Mexico was experiencing a steep decline.
Communists and Bundists fought bitterly throughout the 1940s,
their movements weakening in Zionism becoming the community's dominant expression
of ethnic activism by the 1950s.
The fact that Claudia Scheinbaum today appears to be neutral on Zionism
might come from this, but this is uncertain.
Now, Shane didn't die until 1989.
The party eventually dissolved.
It became the Party of the Democratic Revolution in 1987.
His granddaughter Claudia, who was well aware of all of this,
was married to one of the founders of the Party of the Democratic Revolution.
So she clearly is in line here.
And like Marxism itself was financed by the wealthy, the big banks.
and the Mexican Party as well as a Cuban party
to a great extent was founded and dominated by foreigners
Jews among others
Now as far as Claudia's concerned
She was well aware of this
She's proud of this background
Which is why this article came out in the first place
She became a climate scientist
In other words
She
And this wasn't her initial
Academic purpose
It happened quite suddenly
She went to California for this
and climate change apparently is her
but that's going to be the mechanism by which
what's left of Western civilization can be brought under
control
now something else happened though
and it was not it was a few years ago
the Colombian president
this was at a climate change conference at the
University of Mexico
said that
Claudia was a militant in an activist of
Colombian guerrilla MS-19.
Now, she didn't deny it.
She didn't sue him for slander or anything.
That was the April 19 movement there.
And this would make sense because this would follow her family trajectory.
So I don't know how could she be doing that and getting a doctorate degree in Berkeley at the same time.
But that's, you know, that was the claim.
And it's probably true.
She wasn't just an intellectual, you know.
MS-19 started from 1974 and allegedly ended in 1994.
And that was not just in Columbia, but throughout Latin America.
I think her connections there, as well as in the cartels, helped get her the presidency in 2024.
So that leads up to our situation.
It was a very bizarre situation.
June 2024, two leftist women.
That was a choice Mexico had.
Neither one representing Mexico in the slightest and all receiving foreign money.
It's funny because Shinebaum actually tried to pass herself off as somewhat of a conservative, roughly until 2021.
And then when she got more and more political, she became a socialist, meaning she was just lying before.
And so Cheat Gauvez, her opponent, was edging.
educated at the world's economic form.
In fact, they both were.
They both were part of the Davos system.
And it's hard to find, and so cheat, it's hard to find a lot of solid background information on her, despite her very unique name.
But they came out of nowhere.
They were heavily scarred by scandal.
There was all kinds of ethics violations.
But people like, you know, and the handful of people who write on this, simply ask the question.
90% Catholic, Mexico, what are the odds that either of these socially liberal, secular candidates have garnered votes huge enough to not only become candidates, but the muscle everybody out, and one of them won in a landslide.
And I guess, and Lou Rockwell, I agree with him here in my book on Military Dictories of Latin America, I used the word.
a banana republic, sort of as an insult.
But a banana republic refers to a weak
democracy
that simply does what they're told,
dominated by foreign capital, usually American capital,
and it's simply not strong enough to
really fight back.
Banana republics, usually when they fall apart, is when
they're when militaries take over.
And their only job
is to export
were raw materials. So they're always going to be in debt. And of course, drugs. So it didn't really matter which woman won. But the sign bomb thing just made it all the more blatant. She's clearly backed by at least one of the cartels. And in 20, just one year before the election, 2023, Supreme Court out of nowhere legalized abortion at the federal level. The states had decided these things. It's quite an unpopular.
thing. Same thing for the for fag marriage. Fagg marriage. But the point is these are two
jet setters. At least Seimbaum with these communist background. Seimaud was in California or
Columbia most of the time in the 90s. She's in her 60s now, I think. And she get her, I think she got
her doctorate at Berkeley. She finished it. Then she got a job at the intergovernmental panel
and climate change at the UN
and when you see
these color revolutionary types
even though this wasn't
really a color revolution
they go from
elitist job to elitist job
without a problem
worldwide
they get whatever they want
this is the
both coming from Davos
they have all the connections
in the world
but the last thing
she knows about is Mexico
she served as
Secretary of the Environment
in 2015
and then out of nowhere
she was nominated to run
from Mexico City
from the Marina Party
As I mentioned, she received very low percentage of the vote
and has many controversies.
A lot of ethical problems there and a lot of electoral irregularities.
So how would have this name could she ever have been elected in Mexico City, maybe,
but across the country in a landslide.
That electoral interference is impossible.
The Open Society Foundation has a huge office in the city,
which she was a part of, as does Davos.
Now, there's more technical elements of voter fraud.
There was one study that I quote, and it was only taken from one polling place, section 4279, bidding to Juarez, just that one section that votes for Sochit were given to Shinebaum.
and for that they use a preliminary election results program
and what they do is when the voting is finished and accounting is done
they put a poster out front so people can see it
and the PREP data and the poster data are very different
and so the fraud someone moved numbers there
This is
And the electoral commission
I was upset about this
Although they
They eventually came to
Claim she was a legitimate winner
But both her and her predecessor
Want to not eliminate the electoral commission
But weaken it
They're trying to make
They're trying to disallow the electoral commission
To have much power to look over these things
Oh and don't forget
So cheat was the mayor
of Mexico City before Scheinbaum.
She was a senator, too.
She was recognized for her leadership by the World Economic Forum.
She was invited by Brazil's Lula, the leftist, you know, to participate in globalization summit of Davos.
That means her job, and both of them did, of course, that they're going to impose a great reset onto Mexico.
And we're supposed to believe that they were the only two electable candidates.
So Devos and Black Rock are moving in
Neither one has any real international experience
They really don't have any political experience
Except for this army
There are 200 NGOs functioning in Mexico
So someone has to guide whoever won
You know, associate or signball
And the irregularities within the two-party nominations
That was far more severe
But it was NGO money
that permitted Shinebomb to get that.
There's no one really in Marina thought she was all that electable
and the national level, but they exist because of NGO funding.
Now, under Mexican law, a foreign government can't make donations to a political group.
Sovereignty issues, of course.
But an NGO, by definition, that's what an NGO is, non-governmental organizations.
They're corporate entities.
At one point, President Obador complained to, at that time, VP Kamala, that USAID has to suspend funding to Mexico because they're interfering too much in elections.
Open government partnership in 2011, they had a global southern Mexico in 2015, and that was the same, almost a coup, a group that put her, that put Sochi in Mexico City, and then, of course, just,
Seinfeldon a little bit later.
The partnership is funded by the UN, Open Society,
Seulet Foundation, and the British government.
And I say that they're going to make Mexico just a raw materials exporter
is that their agenda is to implement the sustainable goals
as set forth by the W.E.F., the World Economic Forum,
which is who trained them and who had them elected.
So she was a pre-selected winner.
Remember her first husband,
Scheimbaugh's first husband, went to jail for electoral fraud.
Claudia's entire platform was abortion, faggotry, you know, all that.
She pressured the university, a big university to give her daughter a free ride.
And, of course, it may not, you know, again, I mentioned turnout was very low.
Now, the other big issue.
this was the most violent election in recent Mexican history
especially at the local level
especially down south threats abductions assault
assassinations
Mexico was a violent place
so during the 2021 elections
102 politicians were killed
doesn't necessarily people who are holding office
or running for office
but people who are you know big bigwigs and parties
and all this
36 were nominees or candidates
for a public office
so before the campaigning period started
in January that number shot up
so the government tried to
they provided security guards
to 560 candidates
and also
27,000 armed forces and national guard personnel were deployed
to secure the electoral process
by May
just one month before the election, the death toll went up to 37.
That's actual candidates running for office.
And it will increase after that.
And not just politicians.
Now, so from 2018 to March of 2024,
people running for office.
The number of murders and attacks is 1,709.
And very few of these are ever prosecuted.
now here's what Breitbart had to say about it and again this is one of the few
Breitbart didn't really challenge the election but they did say that by the time this
was published 26 candidates have been killed throughout the electoral process
culminating with the elections according to Mexican government
now that's a low number because there's a local consulting agency
Integralia who said it was 34 candidates for office murdered before the election took place
but 231 were murdered when factoring in officials, former officials, politicians, former politicians, family members, etc.
And that's probably a low number.
So what does that mean?
First, it keeps turnout very low.
It creates a sense of instability.
It gives a sense that the government can't protect them, which it can't.
Who wants to volunteer as a poll watcher?
a lot of these acts of violence in this past election as well as in decades ago they destroyed voting machines especially in the southern states
Mexico has lost all control of its territory so the only people who can possibly benefit from this violence are those who are beneficial to the cartels including the current president
and all these are the threats these are very underreported so it didn't matter if there were 27,000
men, it didn't stop any of it.
There's a tremendous psychological pressure exerted on candidates far greater than what the data
showed.
The left is the primary beneficiary of this.
Although, to be fair, there were a couple of moraine candidates who were killed, but overwhelmingly, it was their opposition.
So that creates a totally different story.
I'm not sure you can have an election when you have a slaughter of, of, of, of, you know,
candidates and politicians, and they're timed, connected with elections.
I didn't even realize that until fairly recently.
I knew it was violent, but I did something on, I did a show not too long ago on why the Mexican army has lost the fight against the cartels.
But at this level, these assassinations, not just, you know, a lot of abductions, kidnapped.
You know, that kind of thing.
Apparently, Scheinbaum had a lot of protection.
She's connected with a Jewish real estate tycoon, Daniel Khabas, close ally who financer.
Now, I should note, and a lot of people noticed this at the time when she was in Mexico City.
This was a huge scandal.
She hired a crew to demolish a bill.
building. I don't know why, but it just so happens that it was a wall next to a church and accidentally destroyed the church. The parish priest said that he wasn't even given notification of the demolition. I think it was a test seeing how far she can go. And that was elected to landslide? This doesn't make any sense to me.
she of course is a you know being part of the party of the democratic revolution
which was part of the communist party that her family founded
touted by the wilson center
politico bloomberg
now I think the election of trump was was bad for her
but when you have the former I just wonder how close she was to the former president
who was a leftist
but not like her
he wants the NGOs to be tightly limited
but Putin is done in Russia
there's two in particular
Mexicans against corruption and impunity
in a group called Article 19
they're on a MacArthur Foundation
Bill Gates, NED, USAID
and they made sure
that only left as females vetted by Davos
would be selected as candidates
his position has always been
you know very strange he's not quite like he's on a communist
as I said before
he and his and and
shine bomb want to destroy the
National Electoral Institute
in other words they want to make sure that they stay in power
they could stuff ballot boxes and have no one looking over their shoulder
well Mexico
is really the best place to do that
I mean, it's a narco state.
It's pretty well known that she, either she is, has a lot of influence over the cartels or the cartels own her.
I would think it's probably the second one or a combination of both.
The murder rate in Mexico City went down incredibly, mostly because one, when the cartels killed people, they would get rid of the bodies instead of leaving them.
And two, they just stopped recording the crime.
And apparently that was from the cartels were basically running that.
So I think the reason she is there is to keep the narco state going.
And pretty much that's it.
Yeah, when the minute she was elected and I have to go around here.
Sorry.
Because of the super majorities.
No, no.
You got me thinking now.
She clearly is in the cartel's pocket because, you know, especially once Trump was elected.
She wants changes to the country's constitution that will block any investigation or any action by a foreign that is American law enforcement agency.
And anyone who assists them in Mexico would be criminally liable.
Now, that was right after this is, you know,
And it came a little bit later, but when Trump designated the six cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, which of course they are, not entirely so, but they are, and wanted to eradicate them.
All of a sudden, Scheinbaum is outraged.
And she justified this in public.
She suddenly is a nationalist now.
We don't negotiate sovereignty, she said.
We don't want the U.S. to invade our sovereignty.
Over and over again.
And her critics, I wish now there are many,
are claiming she is shielding the cartels.
That would be Article 40, adding wording to the Mexican Constitution,
that there will be no interference, intervention, or any other foreign act.
That would, quote, damage the nation's sovereignty,
which says any prosecution of alleged criminals in our country,
country, Mexico, the express authorization and collaboration of the Mexican state.
That was right after Trump said what he said.
Which is no, obviously not a, not a coincidence.
Now, you talked about the cartels.
On April 21st, it was a Sunday,
Claudia Seinbaum in her motorcade was stopped by men in hoods at a checkpoint during her campaign tour in Chiapas.
And this is one of the southern states, extremely violent.
They belonged to the Sinaloa cartel because they had patches and tattoos and stuff that clearly pointed to that.
One even had an image of Ismail Zambata, the head of it.
and it was filmed and recorded.
They asked her to remember them if you were elected into office.
They knew.
And the audio goes, I'm reading it directly here.
It says, we just want to tell you to remember the mountains down here and the poor people when you're in power.
We're not against the government.
Keep that in mind.
We're not against you.
You don't want any more problems.
We want you.
And your president, do us a favor of cleaning up down here because we can't travel down here.
because we can't travel down here.
And what, of course, they meant was getting rid of the military.
They tear us to little pieces if we passed through a certain section.
Now, she remained in the vehicle throughout the entire thing.
She made eye contact.
She just nodded along with these guys.
And her critics went nuts.
How did these guys get so close to the motorcade?
Why was nothing done as they were speaking to her?
This was a conversation.
it was very obvious who they were.
They were in a very violent place.
I don't know if Chepas has, Chippas has the highest rate.
I'm not sure 100%, but they didn't mention it in breaking bad, so I don't know.
So clearly, the fact that they could do this, they could speak to her.
They're requesting to get rid of law enforcement, that she wants this in the Constitution now.
And on top of all that, the extreme violence throughout the campaign.
You had a mayoral candidate shot in the middle of a campaign rally.
Right in the back of the head, a point blank range.
It was Alfredo Cabrera and Guerrero.
Again, another southern state.
Nothing ever came of it.
No one was ever arrested.
Most of the murdered down there.
And the number is far higher than reported.
they were usually running for town councils or mayor.
They're easier to assassinate a course.
They don't have security around them.
And they're important for the cartels,
taking advantage of small towns rather than cities.
So clearly there's a connection here.
You can't convince me otherwise.
Now, because they were both candidates trained at Davos,
she's a climate scientist
which I just can't get enough
you know
it's so bizarre
of all things
it's the most trendiest thing
you could possibly be
and suddenly
very suddenly
she decides to do this
she wants to turn Mexico
into a green society
of windmills
and solar panels
and if you know anything about that
they could never
provide the energy
needed for a country
as large as Mexico
there's massive blackouts
all over the country
sometimes for weeks, a putrid water, the dirt roads.
That's not important to her.
No one voted for her unless they were lied to or told to.
Media was talking about her being a feminist in a mostly macho country.
Well, that means that they didn't vote for her.
And isn't it the case that Mexico's female voters tend to be more Catholic than the men?
So who is she appealing to exactly?
cartels are in alignment with the NGOs.
And as I mentioned before, you had 100 million eligible voters in Mexico.
The previous election had a turnout of 63%.
In her election, it was 60%.
So very low.
No, I don't know if that's out of fear or what, just because no one represented them.
now the opposition parties which apparently were nowhere to be found
the national action party
the institutional revolutionary party
citizens movement all of these
240 challenges against the election results
they allege widespread fraud
very much as Trump did
not just for president also for the legislative elections
they exceeded campaign spending limits
they have evidence of vote buying, voter intimidation, most certainly, and irregularities
that we've mentioned already.
So it's not just a matter of recounting the votes, it's the system itself.
So this is why both the previous president and her want to destroy the electoral commission.
Now, I want to give you a quote from, so cheap, who really is a weirdo.
You know, it's trained by Davos, but it's all over the place, depending on who she's talking to.
She condemns the results of the elections, not just because she lost.
This is a tweet from her.
I know the results surprise us, and we have to analyze what happened.
Well, how could they be surprising if the polls showed her, you know, as everyone said,
polls showed her winning a landslide election.
then she said we all knew we were facing an unequal competition against the entire state apparatus
dedicated to its favorite candidate we all noticed how much organized crime was present
threatening and killing dozens of candidates it doesn't end here yes we'll present challenges
that prove what i'm saying and what we all know to be true and we'll do it because we can't allow
another election like this ever today more than ever we have to defend our republic
checks and balances the separation of powers remain at risk
now
it's a strange way to speak
it's
she's being very careful not to mention any names or any groups
she's very vague
but she keeps saying that you guys know what I'm talking about
it's very guarded
and the fact that she mentions organized crime
this is something that we know
and that was supporting her.
We know the U.S. supports Sinaloa.
There's no question about that.
The Sinaloa cartel
probably the largest, I think, in Mexico,
backed by the U.S.
They come in through Arizona,
New Mexico, Laredo, Texas.
And one of their source points
is the Philippines,
which is why I have very
very interested, you know, years ago in Duterte's presidency there. I was a big fan
of his. Wherever a government like his smashes the drug trade and he was very successful,
the U.S. condemns it. Same thing for El Salvador. He has smashed the gangs. The U.S.
wants him sanctioned, at least under Biden, wants him sanctioned and destroyed.
The Philippines, of course, you know, has been under CIA control since the 40s.
And Manila is really its Southeast Asia headquarters.
So there's a connection between, you know, Southeast Asia and Mexico.
And showing this, as if things couldn't get any worse.
The Marana Party, and they're supposed to.
to be they want austerity. They want the IMF to come in and, you know, balance the budget and cut everything.
And yet, their leadership, like Ricardo Monreal, who was a coordinator of the deputies, the chamber of deputies.
He was in Madrid, five-star hotel.
Mario Delgado, Secretary of Public Education.
the most exclusive hotel in Lisbon, in Portugal.
Five-star, no doubt.
Enrique Navarro, the youngest deputy in Mexican history,
was in Leo, the very high-end nightclub at Ibiza.
Very expensive, and the hotel connected to it is very expensive.
Arena's Secretary of Organization was at the Hotel Akura in Tokyo,
five-star property, a whole bunch of congressmen there with him.
they showed him with a bottle of champagne that was 2,000 euros
and it was a place called Conce d'Alsogno later on
a place only accessible by sea
and yet
Seinbaum who now is bizarrely very wealthy
I don't know where the money came from
she demands austerity
it will be imposed on the country through the IMM
and it doesn't even matter
that these displays of arrogance and opulence
undermine the party's image.
It doesn't matter.
But it also shows money from the outside sources like cartels.
They don't deny it happen, but they say that, well, they were privately funded.
In other words, they're trying to deflect saying, well, the state didn't pay for it,
but that's exactly the problem.
No one was never saying it was because government funds.
Who did pay for it?
And how did you get so wealthy all of a sudden?
So the party has been exposed as a fake.
Like the Sandinises, when they took power,
first thing they did is move into the mansions
in the wealthiest areas of the capital.
All these people, in the left,
they demand austerity for everyone else.
When the left takes over, they live the high life.
But I think when she was stopped by these men down in Chiapas,
I think that showed something.
She doesn't seem to be scared.
I saw a part of the video on Rumble.
I didn't see it on YouTube.
I don't remember now.
And it was only, they didn't have a translation.
But what shocked me, I'm watching this.
Why is she has a substantial security force?
These are cartel guys.
why they're not doing anything
they're like walked up to the
to the truck
so you have people in her own party now
all over the place saying she's a cartel president
and you know
is she a puppet of the cartels
you have the Colombian president saying that she was
yeah of course she was she was part of the
narco-revolutionary movement down here
that's why I spent so much time talking about her family
wealthy communists
like the rest of them.
You know, the agenda is the same,
and the Jews are at the center of it,
even in a place like early 20th century Cuba.
My Lord.
And this is what gets elected by a massive landslide?
I don't need the technicalities of vote fraud.
There's no way that could happen.
Of course there's vote fraud.
You know, there's no way this could, you know,
you would have to, I don't know how this could possibly be.
And I don't know why no one's talking about it.
I see the name Shinebaum, Mexican president.
I start laughing.
Well, that's a Mexican name.
They're voting for someone with the most blatantly non-Mexican name.
No problem.
How can that possibly be as the country gets poorer and poorer?
The only thing is, you know, Trump's election was a disaster for her.
And that's why these new constitutional changes, we're not going to cooperate.
in the Constitution.
We're not going to cooperate
with any American
law enforcement acts
against the cartels
in this country.
Well, we know
what the Hooded men said.
Don't forget us down here.
And I guess she didn't.
So that means
you have the alliance of
at least, you know,
back then, this is June of
24, that administration.
The NGOs,
pretty much all of them.
Davos, the cartels.
and the media
all working together
to make sure
that she is worshipped as a deity
and she gets elected.
Clearly it was a coalition.
And
parties like the National Action Party
were nowhere to be found.
But filing
240 challenges,
they can't do that without
reason.
They don't want to make fools of themselves.
It's not making
making stuff up.
Now, I don't speak Spanish.
I haven't read the,
um,
the,
um,
their initial filings.
All I know is that they allege widespread fraud
at all levels.
And that this is connected
with the extreme violence.
Violence is one of the ways that they
stuff ballot boxes.
They keep people from voting.
They know exactly what they're doing.
And it benefits,
Morina.
It benefits,
um,
signbaum and her.
That's,
that's how she got the,
the numbers that she had.
And I think I'm just crashing the surface here.
I'm not an expert in Mexican politics by any means.
But we have some people, I'm pretty sure, who might be,
who could really take this intro and expand it.
I think there's a lot more going in here than we realize.
The low turnout is only a part of it.
And the fact that no one is talking about her,
that Shinebaum becomes president of Mexico.
go and I'm all my all my right wing bookmarks I'm looking for who down it's me and
Lou Rockwell isn't it weird that why is no one talking about her it's hard to get information
you know if her background was if her you know one side of the family was like diamond
merchants or something like that you know that sent money to pala you know they sent money to
Palestine to get the new Jewish state up and running sure
The fact that she just comes from revolutionaries is just like, you know, Chef's Kiss.
It's so perfect.
It's like you couldn't, if you wrote this, people would say it was anti-Semitic.
Yeah, I think I mentioned, when I first mentioned this issue to you, I said, it sounds like I wrote it.
Like I'm writing, it's my first attempt to, at fiction.
It's something like they get a new protocol.
It's so low, you know, it's so, yeah, there are a lot of people who don't like the term below IQ.
anti-semitism anymore but come on it is it's just it's like this kind of fiction where you know
at the at the end someone rips a wig off and there's horns yeah i mean it's
but yeah i mean these ties her going to um her being a climate scientist all of this i mean
it's just yeah and none of this would be concerning if it wasn't on our southern border
if we didn't have a yeah yeah if we didn't have a narco-science
state on our southern border that that is now being run by somebody who is obviously in the
if not in the employ but you know of the same ilk as the sorroses and the w efs of the world i mean
it's just right it's like you said we couldn't julius you know julius striker couldn't have
come up with this yeah it's so blatant you know her family founded the the communist parties of
two of Mexico and Cuba, or at least we're right there when it was founded.
And she comes from this long line.
And the Colombian president's comment was never refuted by anybody.
She was a part of this, too.
And not just as a politician or intellectual.
She was part of the MS-19, very different organization down there.
So, and he said this at.
a climate change conference right after she spoke.
She said, oh, by the way, people, I have some news for you.
So, and, and how much did you really get her doctorate in climate science?
I don't know.
I don't know if climate science is an actual thing.
I don't know what that would actually be called, academically speaking.
Did you really do it?
Is they saying she did it?
So what they're saying, what it says on Wikipedia, if you want to believe anything on Wikipedia,
she earned an undergraduate degree in physics at the UNAM, that's the United,
and what is that the, um, uh, looking for her education,
National Autonomous University or something, yeah, National Autonomous University or something
like that.
And then it says she completed the work for a PhD thesis between 91 and 94 at Lawrence
Berkeley National Laboratory in California, while working for,
for the laboratory, she analyzed energy for use in the Mexican transportation sector and published
studies on the trends in Mexican building energy. So she came to the United States, worked at a
national laboratory in California so she could analyze energy use in the Mexican transportation
sector. I assume she's using the resources of taxpayers to do this so that she can go back and
what make Mexico
their energy,
their transportation sector
more streamlined
or better.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much
exactly what it is.
In other words, non-existent into the point where,
yeah, and of course, Mexico runs by its oil industry.
She has to be at war with them.
And being a climate scientist, by definition,
she's a huge part of the global warming thing.
and now she was promoted in that by the DeVos group Black Rock was already investing down there.
But again, you know, I don't care if they coat the place with panels.
You can't, that won't create enough energy to, you know, for industry, maybe a small percentage of it.
That's good for small applications, but it's simply not possible.
So it's, and the sustainability goals that she's personally dedicated.
to essentially reduce Mexico to just as a raw materials exporter.
So fourth world, it doesn't have to be that way.
And they're all coming in the NAFTA.
Very quickly what South Africa is turning into because it's always been a raw
material, you know, a raw metals kind of place, precious metals.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it didn't, you know, but at one time, it was industrial.
But once another group of people took over in the 90s,
early 90s.
Now that's all they do.
And they don't even do that well.
Well, but what is it?
They say that there is no black sub-Saharan nation in Africa that has a word for maintenance in their language.
I think that's actually true.
So there's this guy, Mr. Beast, who goes and he raises all this money to go and build wells in Africa.
And within a year and a half, two years, the wells don't work anymore because they leave there.
And when the white people leave, there's no word for maintenance.
They don't know what maintenance is.
Yeah.
Yeah, this was a problem also with Shell.
Now, I'm no fan of the oil firms for a whole bunch of reasons, but Shell invested massively in Nigeria.
Nigeria is swimming in oil.
Why are they dirt poor?
And the violence and the total lack of personnel, it wasn't, it wasn't profitable for them.
They left.
It didn't make any difference.
You know, there could be another, you know, you can't really compare them to Saudi Arabia.
There's a hell of a lot more people there.
But all the warfare and the ignorance, low IQ, what are you going to do?
They, you know, Shell couldn't control the, they needed some local input.
And so they pulled out.
And now the equipment has fallen apart and is flooding the area.
And now, and this was a few years ago, Nigeria wants to sue.
sell in a British court.
This is their fault.
Like they want to destroy their own investments and make no money.
I'm not up on that.
I don't know what came of that.
But yeah, same thing.
Why isn't Nigeria a much wealthier place?
And with all of that, and not just oil too,
they have many minerals, they have gold,
huge, you know, a huge river.
There's so much.
that they could, but
not the tribal warfare,
the corruption,
and when Shell says,
okay, we can't do it anymore,
we're leaving,
and they dump everything,
that's a pretty serious thing.
The Beyond Friends has something to do with that, too, I know.
That's how I found out about it in the first place.
So,
and it's the same kind of thing.
And this is what,
you know,
and she's turning Mexico,
again,
again, what does also has a lot of oil, which she can't possibly be in favor of,
into what will be a fourth world,
one-party state, controlled by Marina.
Even she has a Supreme Court,
because she has these alleged supermajorities in both houses.
The Supreme Court, she says,
she's going to make sure the Supreme Court can't challenge any of these.
The court can't challenge,
any amendments that they promote for the Constitution
or any law of hers.
Kind of like Netanyahu did in Israel prior to the war.
And that's being talked about much less
than things like the violence or anything else.
So she really wants to create what Jolensky did in Ukraine
slowly but surely.
And then you have even leftist NGOs saying
that this is outrageous.
So, you can't do this.
You can't do it so blatantly.
And yet the media is so tight, you know, so tight up there.
We're getting no alternative information.
The right wing either doesn't exist or they're so divided.
They can't do anything.
We have two leftist candidates.
And whether it be Spanish or English language media, all saying the same thing.
She's a woman.
She's a Jew.
Everything could be wonderful in Mexico.
That's a perfect thing to end on, because I know you have personal stuff to do it at 18.
Just a perfect sentence to end on.
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