The Pete Quiñones Show - The Foreign Policy of Adolf Hitler with Thomas777 - Complete

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:27 slash communities I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. I'm back here with Thomas. It's been a little while. How are you doing? I'm right. I was quite ill for a spell that owes to my absence owes to that as well as, you know, my not dropping content, a particularly timely manner. But I think I'm out of the woods, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:55 I mean, I got to be. I'm going to the meter conference this weekend, but I appreciate you hosting me, as always. What I want to get into today, and of course, you're the boss of this program. I want to discuss how there's a nascent sort of revisionist there's a nascent tolerance for a revisionist
Starting point is 00:02:21 scholarship about Adolf Hitler, okay, that I think is undeniable. I'm talking about, you know, in corridors where that was not tolerated. whatsoever, you know, even a decade or a decade and a half ago. And it's very interesting. It owes to a lot of factors. That owes to the Second World War truly fading from living memory. You know, it owes to the kind of democratization of university resources. It owes to, you know, the complete and total absence of a bully pulpit
Starting point is 00:02:56 to that academe in, you know, in conjunction with media used to enjoy and, you know, facilitated a really kind of complete and total capability to dominate the conceptual landscape, you know, not just enforce, you know, strictures on what's considered to be an acceptable opinion, but quite literally control the conceptual narrative. You know, I mean, people find that hard to believe now that that could be done. But I mean, think free internet. Think when any media you can assume it's truly passive. You know, you don't select the programming. And your access to data really is limited to what you can find at your local library, you know, or library system. But it's interesting because I would have thought it would be the opposite within the bounded rationale of revisionist enterprise.
Starting point is 00:03:54 a soft version of enterprise relating to the Third Reich. I would have thought that the Nazi party would have been somehow rehabilitated in terms of oh, these were just ignorant people or some such thing. But, you know, Hitler was this sort of evil Svengali type
Starting point is 00:04:08 who swept them up in this, you know, sort of miasma of evil and madness. It's really kind of the opposite. You know, a lot of these treatments have a very, very punitive view of the party and of its loyalists and they're certainly not friendly to Adolf Hitler but they
Starting point is 00:04:30 normalize him in within the context of historicist discussion of of his life and times and and career as a war as a politician and as a warlord um most recently 2019 this book Hitler at global biography
Starting point is 00:04:50 by Brendan Sims. This is an important book. And specifically, it dovetails with something I've written about rather extensively. That is, it's my belief that Adolf Hitler believed America to be his primary adversary. He believed Roosevelt was his personal enemy. He believed in America was New Deal America. You know, as America had become constituted with a nice 33 revolution. Hitler viewed that as permanent, and he wasn't wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:24 He viewed America as the foe of Europe, and he viewed it as this still essence of, you know, kind of the Jewish perspective on political life, you know, and kind of like the penultimate expression of of of Jewish social engineering you know writ large like people turn around and say
Starting point is 00:05:57 you know you can't say that you know the entire raison d'etra of the NSDAP was anti-Bolshevism and its emergence owed 100% to
Starting point is 00:06:11 you know the emergence of revolutionary communism you know so you can't discuss this discrete quantity you know contra America that developed according you know to geostrategic challenges and ideological discourse somehow unrelated to that you know and and and um and came to you know identify America as as the primary adversary I want to get into my rebuttal of that today in terms of what actually happened, you know, rather than counterfactuals. And we're going to cover a little bit of familiar ground, but I figured today, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'll kind of address, you know, I'll kind of present rebuttal to what I think of the main objections to that perspective. I just, I just explained the second episode, the second part, you know, we'll talk about Hitler-Contra Roosevelt and the kind of direct hostile discourse between the two. You know, Roosevelt's radio addresses and Hitler's radio addresses, they were obviously in direct dialogue with each other, and it's fascinating. And then finally, you know, how I want to get into some comparing and contrasting, you know, in direct, kind of indirect capacity, you know, of textual criticism. them, you know, like the Sims book, and books like RHS Stolfe's fantastic biography of Hitler called Hitler Beyond Evil and Tyranny.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And John Toland, who I believe wrote the kind of seminal biography on Adolf Hitler, I part ways of them on some claims. And we'll get into that later, Toland, I mean. you know and I know I know that he I know that I know that I know that I'm Toland accepted some aspects of the court
Starting point is 00:08:19 history narrative and the Nuremberg narrative that people find highly objectionable but you know the Institute for Historical Review when they were quite a bit of a harder line arguing than there today you know I hosted him on multiple occasions the guy wasn't you know some milk toast and he wasn't you know some he wasn't just some
Starting point is 00:08:38 some national review type, you know, trying to score points by, you know, writing an edgy book and, you know, during the detente era or something. But I wanted to ask a question before we go on. Does Sims reference Hitler's second book a lot? Yeah. Can you address the people who think that it is not legitimate? Yeah, because everyday idiots tell me things are fake. the girl's areas are fake, mind comps fake
Starting point is 00:09:09 Hitler's second book is fake you know my dick is fake the moon landing is fake the air we breathe is fake I was fucking retarded I'm sick of it like it's not fake you know like at some point
Starting point is 00:09:20 people have to accept that reality is what it appears to be you know and somehow somehow the second book tracks exactly what would Hitler related to confidons
Starting point is 00:09:33 particularly you know to gerbils to Hess, you know, long before the most critical phases of the war ensued, obviously. You know, things that he disclosed to Speer, who, I, Speer was a real weasel, but he was, you know, that doesn't mean you discount every single thing he said as being, as being some, some self-serving lie. Like, oh, I, it, I'm sure that sounded feral, but, like, I, I, I am so sick of people
Starting point is 00:10:04 just declaring things to be fake, you know, like, I, it's like a mental illness or something. You know, people, that's why I object to, not for the tangent, but I don't like the whole, like, red pill metaphor,
Starting point is 00:10:19 because it's like, it's this idea that everybody's kind of ditty-bopping around, like an idiot, then they come to some, like, special knowledge that, like, things aren't what they appear to be. Like, they all of a sudden realize that, like, maybe everything they see on CNN isn't true. You know, and that's the red pill.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So then if that, they decide, like, literally everything, thing on this planet is fake. You know, like, Hitler was fake. He worked for Wall Street, and the Bilderbergs, put him there, and, you know, World War II was fake, and then the Cold War is fake. You know, so, you know, the fake moon landing was part of the fake Cold War.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's really, really, really, really stupid. Like, it's how really stupid people kind of, like, makes sense of a world that confuses them. You know, it's like these hood guys will claim that, like, to heat and trade fruit punch, like, makes you sterile. And you know, like, that doesn't make any sense. Like, nah, dog, it do, it do. It's literally
Starting point is 00:11:07 the same thing. It's like just as fucking stupid. You know, I'm okay, fine. Everything is fake. All right. I'm an idiot and everything's fake. So don't watch. All right. Well, let's get into it. I think they're not just in terms of his character
Starting point is 00:11:24 that's misrepresented by people like Alan Block, by people like Kershaw, really by kind of the seminal, like, mainstream historians of Hitler. They cast him in ESB, Tomic Chommer. The people. That's the fogg, we'll be a broadule and take you to hear of the
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Starting point is 00:12:30 as this kind of provincial rube who was not an old worldly you know and um you know kind of had no understanding of power political affairs outside of you know this narrow corner literally of the kind of of the hasehry empire where he was raised you know this kind of this kind of underdeveloped you know sort of failing by the time he was born like monarchist dinosaur you know that was that was racked by like ethnic conflict and things and the kind of arcane political structures, you know, and intrigues and vendettists they're in. That's not at all the case. It was very, very rare for people in Hitler's epoch to travel overseas.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You know, like, for example, it was like a big deal when, like, Wilson went to Europe, you know? Hitler himself also, as Kuzabek and his sister relayed, Hitler was in love with like American stuff. When he was a little kid, Hitler's two passions were reading, and he constantly would pour over maps with his colored pencils. He was obsessed with geography and cartography, and sketching out with his pencils, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:48 battle scenarios of, you know, the Napoleonic wars and, you know, the Franco-Prussian wars and, like, these great conflicts he'd read about. But he loved reading about cowboys and Indians and, like, playing cowboys and Indians. And, um, so I found hilarious as,
Starting point is 00:14:04 know the Wheatcroft collection, that eccentric Englishman from central casting, Wheatcroft, who's got the most extensive collection of third-right artifacts on this planet, from, you know, like Hitler busts to a panzer tanks and everything in between. I guess when the Berghoff was dynamited, there were still the basement areas one could access. and Birgau and um Weecroft and his buddy they went there they rappeled down
Starting point is 00:14:39 you know into the basement area I mean they're lucky he didn't collapse on them and there was like a game room there you know like I guess there was like this there was a bowling alley but everywhere there was like Coca-Cola signs
Starting point is 00:14:51 on like a Coca-Cola vending machine and I guess we cross buddies is like wasn't this like nuts and we felt like no Hitler loved Coca-Cola you know his favorite movie was King Kong you know Hitler had fought the Americans you know as
Starting point is 00:15:07 as a Lanzer in the Reichs in the Kaiser's army okay Hitler wasn't like ignorant of America or something or like just viewed it as you know like in the way like some provincial European you know full of sort of small-minded
Starting point is 00:15:27 and small town prejudices would and what he began saying to his one-time confidant Pouty Hofstangle Hofstangle was one of the even after the
Starting point is 00:15:44 even after the Rahm purge Hoshtangle he was one of the people who was you know at least party adjacent if not you know truly insinuated into the
Starting point is 00:15:58 into the intersicle fighters. He was in that orbit and he'd speak freely to Hitler and he was constantly trying to sway Hitler away from viewing the Soviet Union as something that had to be destroyed. And Rosenberg
Starting point is 00:16:16 hated him and both men seem to think they'd somehow like sway the fewer to their perspective out of Russia. You know, I see Rosenberg this violently punitive view of Russia which is totally understandable, him being a Baltic, German and Hofstangel said to Hitler that, you know, it would be a fool's errand
Starting point is 00:16:35 for any, you know, for any for any, for any, for any, for any, you know, to make war in the Soviet Union, you know, that'd be an unwinnable war. And Hitler said, no, no. Hitler said, uh, that would be an essential war. An unwinnable war would be against the United States, when it awakens.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The United States is going to rule this planet. You know, I'm paraphrasing. But in the second book, he talks about how America possesses quite literally 50% of this planet's natural resources. Hitler himself had an uncanny ability to take reams of data and take conceptual sets of data that don't really lend themselves to translating into inputs. and he had this kind of way of understanding how these things translate the power political variables both concrete and
Starting point is 00:17:36 and behavioral and everything else Hitler viewed the United States says this bargaining superpower unlike anything the world had ever seen and in terms of the American people one of the things Sims drives home and this makes me so happy because I've been saying this
Starting point is 00:17:59 for ages and people claim it's like a quote quote quote cop epilogia Taylor did not view the the German people as some master race as they existed in 1933 he thought Germany was in terrible shape he said you know
Starting point is 00:18:14 the 30 years war smashed Germany into pieces literally you know and he's like in 1648 our population was scattered to the four winds you know we like lost who we were you know like the best of our the best of our mentioned material
Starting point is 00:18:31 was in the grave you know and he's like there was just kind of like this you had a bunch of you know you had a bunch of people made war refugees who had been made into like refugees
Starting point is 00:18:42 you know who were basically forcefully assimilated into you know by the you know by by these by these Slavonic peoples that they then had to live among after being banned from banished from their own land you know and he said after that
Starting point is 00:18:56 you know Germany um even even after unification, Germany is slightly smaller than Wyoming. In power political terms, Germany is a tiny
Starting point is 00:19:09 country with no natural resources. All it has is its people. And you know, from the turn of the 19th century until the Immigration Reform Act of 1924,
Starting point is 00:19:25 something like 5.9 million Germans had left Germany for the United States. Hitler said, like, these were our best people. He was like, they were the people who could survive a journey, which in those days was no small thing. You had to be a robust person. You know, these were the guys going to handle, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:42 like weathering poverty and terrible hardship for years of need be to build something. You know, these are the guys who weren't afraid to literally look at a location on a map and say, I'm going to travel thousands of miles away in some cases, you know, and live on this new continent. You know, Hitler's like what was left in Europe, you know, he's like um for people who were just like weaker in mind and spirit or uh people had been like left behind by history it goes on to say and only to the fact you know Hitler he knew americans he'd fought them he said like you know when i fought these people when we fought these people you know he's like
Starting point is 00:20:17 they're these large robust people you know and he's like compared to them you know he was like we're like these kind of like sinewy weaklings who get knocked out by rifle fire you know he's like these guys could take shots to the chest and like in some cases recover he's like it was he's like we didn't stand a chance in 1918 being bled white as we had like fighting like you know the american army you know the bulk of which in those days was made up of a bunch of german people you know by by race if you're looking like that okay so this was this was Hitler's perspective you know it wasn't uh America sucks you know it's weak it's misogynated you know the Germans are the best people on earth it was the opposite it was we're dying out And the only way we cannot die out is through this kind of top-down process of palingenesis, part of which is spiritual, you know, part of which is historical in nature, you know, part of which is physical and biological, quite literally, you know, part of which is a matter of social engineering,
Starting point is 00:21:22 but of such a nature that's going to have organic residence and isn't, you know, just some sort of contrived, it isn't just some sort of contri-political program you know like emerging from the minds of of you know a of a of an information ministry or something so this is where this is where Hitler was coming from
Starting point is 00:21:44 and I want to add too and Sims makes this point in both Mind Comp and the second book Hitler does not he barely even mentions black people he says that he has some punitive things to say about the American South
Starting point is 00:22:03 because he said that importing he said importing thousands or millions of of Negro or Aboriginal slaves he said that's called barbaric You know he didn't so much mean it's like mean to enslave people
Starting point is 00:22:20 And he didn't mean that at all Like he meant that you know Having this like massive slave population That's not assimilable You know that in some places outnumbers you know, the, you know, the master cast, I mean, that's literally perverse, you know, and he, uh, beyond that, and mind comp, he makes him passing reference to how, you know, the kind of, the kind of universality of, of cultural identity, and, you know, kind of like, kind of like rudimentary
Starting point is 00:22:56 religion, no matter how primitive it can be, and it may be. And he said that, like, you know, people even see this in, you know, people even see this in the most, like, primitive Negro tribe, you know, which was, like, short-hand for, like, Africans. So that's, you know, I mean, like, why is that important? It's not that it's so important, but I, for years,
Starting point is 00:23:14 not just, as long as precedes, like, wokeism and kind of fake scholarship online. There's this, like, narrative that, like, Hitler for no reason had some, like, demented hatred of blacks and, like, hated Jesse Owens. And, I mean, that's, like, that's literally demented. But that was basically Hitler's musings in America, kind of like looking at the strategic landscape when, you know, he became Greg's consular and when Mr. Roosevelt took the oath of office.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So why was Hitler so fixated on Russia? Well, there's the obvious exigence of, you know, it being, Germany being situated on the Soviet front. frontier, you know, the communists were an existential threat to the Germans. You know, the, there was an inextricable aspect of anti-communism to national socialism. But the thing is, the Germans had won in Germany. I mean, that's why Hitler was a Reich consular. some years later, you know, they won in Spain. You know, like the communists were losing in Western Europe.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And the thing with communism is that, you know, once it loses that kind of like revolutionary fervor, it doesn't come back. You know, that's why after World War II, you know, when one would think like, oh, you know, like Marxist-Leninism is at zenith, you know, in the third world it was. but in Europe, like nobody, it literally had to be imposed at the point of a bayonet. You know, so it's a different thing, you know, and so people will, then other people will raise the question then like, well, then why, why was, um, the war in the East literally declared to be a Rossen Krieg? And why was it so brutal? And why, why did Hitler formally distinguish?
Starting point is 00:25:30 from the war in the West. And I'll get into this in a minute and declare that, you know, any German officer or enlisted man in the East is immune to prosecution for crimes against humanity. You know, and contrary, you know, the occupation of France or nothing like that would be tolerated, you know, not even, like, by anybody. There's an interesting little factoid. I think it's more than a factoid.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I think it's fundamentally important. there's this really interesting book it's one of my favorite books it's by this author named Proudon Proudin P-R-A-W-D-I-N the Mongol Empire or the Mongols in their empire
Starting point is 00:26:17 by Michael Pradden which was a pen name but this book made the rounds in German Academe you know in the I think the first I think the first edition was published in 1929 if I'm wrong somebody correct me
Starting point is 00:26:35 but people like among comparative people into like comparative social anthropology and cultural anthropology people into philology particularly people into military science they found this to be a very important book hydric Himmler became fixedly down this book um at the uh at the SS Juncker Schools it was a signed reading um every SS officer upon receiving his commission was given a copy of it. Yacquim Piper, his term paper or his thesis, I guess what he considered, you know, his bachelor's thesis,
Starting point is 00:27:23 when he was at SS officer school, it was on the Mongol, but it was on a specific aspect of Mongol culture. That aspect with something called Yasa YASSA Ready for huge savings We'll mark your calendars from November 28th to 30th Because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items
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Starting point is 00:29:06 decrees. Later it was expanded, um, extrapolated from these military conventions, you know, to include, um, behavioral conventions, you know, things relating to cultural things and, and conjugal things and, and, um, you know, um,
Starting point is 00:29:26 disputes over property and things like this. But, um, it remained a secret. Um, the, it was, It's believed that there's a very incomplete record of the Mongols in terms of their cultural practices and things. It's believed that this was supervised by Genghis Khan himself, who appointed his adopted son, Shigi Kutu, as kind of like a high judge or like a lawgiver. he appointed his second son
Starting point is 00:30:07 Shagatai Khan to oversee the law as execution quite literally as Lord High Executioner Now This idea of a body of law That Obviously one of the reasons for its Secretiveness It's not just so that
Starting point is 00:30:31 You know the high lawgiver Can maintain this mystique and decrees therein and precedent can be modified and applied selectively but it also you know it's it also it also obviously speaks of
Starting point is 00:30:52 of belief in a divine origin okay the social order and of military endeavors and of you know the the function of soldiery in and of itself okay um
Starting point is 00:31:07 Piper wrote his his paper on Yasa and um you know uh it got glowing marks from his teachers
Starting point is 00:31:22 and Himmler um Piper would periodically refer to Genghis Khan and Mongol concepts just uh in the discussion in military affairs it's obviously like looned really large in his mind okay so
Starting point is 00:31:36 what this translates to is there was a belief that they're quite ahead to be some sort of adjacent moral ethos of your vanguard soldiery and that's what the SS was supposed to be they were supposed to be a kind of they're supposed to be kind of the reconstituted
Starting point is 00:31:59 Teutonic Knights but they they were really kind of a isn't a perfect example but they were almost you know like a jihad element and some sort of integrated some sort of integrated structure of law and command authority
Starting point is 00:32:18 and theological small T theological imperatives is really what something like that requires and I'll get into that in a minute why that is so important okay a couple things that stand out or a couple instances
Starting point is 00:32:37 with people who discuss some command responsibility relating to the German war crimes and genocide in the in the Second World War
Starting point is 00:32:53 one of those instances is Himmler's post in speech or speeches in October 1983 where Himmler addressed and assembled you know the assembled higher SS and police leaders
Starting point is 00:33:08 and he openly stated we're talking about we're talking about the eradication of the Jewish people. This was in 1993 October, which really shouldn't surprise anybody considering the state of things. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The second instance that they tend to raise, you know, they raise it as almost like a litigation attorney would, you know, an admission by a party opponent. The Obertsalzalzberg speech on August 22nd, 939, which obviously was right,
Starting point is 00:33:41 you know so was the eve of the assault on Poland this American journalist Louis P. Lochner this gets a little complicated he contacted a diplomat named Alexander Comstock Kirk he showed him the text of this speech
Starting point is 00:34:05 that Hitler had delivered to the or assembled over to the assembled brass at Over Salisburg. In turn, it was transmitted to the British diplomat, George Ovalvee, Forbes,
Starting point is 00:34:26 who of course made it public in British intelligence circles almost immediately. And the belief, almost certainly, or the understanding, almost certainly, it was Wilhelm Canaris, chief of the adver, who was the intelligence leak. Okay, and he was
Starting point is 00:34:44 present there. And it's interesting for all kinds of reasons that this is what he chose to really this is what he chose to leak in lieu of some other things over the Because because canaris didn't leak everything and sometimes he did what was um What one would consider to be the patriotic thing to do at critical junctures like other times he Was engaged in catastrophic acts of treason as a ways to you know the disclosure of what would be considered eyes only um secrets but
Starting point is 00:35:17 as in may um these documents the documents constituting the speech or at least the notes that
Starting point is 00:35:25 constituted the speech as much as um as much as um our snitch who will will accept as Canaris
Starting point is 00:35:34 proffered to um the allies um every um every uh every uh every uh
Starting point is 00:35:45 every uh every uh every exhibit Provident Nuremberg was cataloged with a letter and number code this the text of the speech
Starting point is 00:35:58 it's paragraph in number code is paragraph 3 of exhibit L3 I'll read the relevant paragraphs it's short this is Hitler speaking our strength consists
Starting point is 00:36:16 in our speed and in our brutality Gangus Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter, with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak Western European civilization will say about me. I've issued the command, and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by firing squad. Their war aim is not consistent in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my deathhead formation and readiness to the present only in the only in the East, with orders to them to send death mercilessly and without compassion.
Starting point is 00:36:55 With orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and heritage. Well, thus shall we gain the living space, which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians. That's that famous quote about the Armenians comes from. Okay. So what is Hitler saying? Now, mind you, when he talks about putting any insubordinate, of the firing squad he's talking to men in uniform without exception okay so that's
Starting point is 00:37:21 that's draconian but it's appropriate okay within a commonly accepted um laws and customs at war um as uh that comes up with the commissar order comes with the barbarosa decree you know which again i'm not going to read verbatim word for word the text of those documents, but it essentially stripped away any and all precedent relating, you know, permissive or compulsory related to the laws and customs of war since 1648, while acknowledging that in the West these things would still be scrupulously honored and observed. Okay. So what does that mean? What that means is that, in practical terms, Hitler realized that in order to become a superpower,
Starting point is 00:38:30 Germany had to annihilate everything east of the order. That was not reconcilable with the German ambition of conquering of conquering a landmass essentially from
Starting point is 00:38:49 the Atlantic Ocean you know, to the Earls and perhaps beyond. There's no way that one can reconcile that ambition and there's no way that one can imagine a grand strategy that doesn't entail some variant of that whereby Germany survives. You know, it's, I mean, if you want to, you know, keep in mind, too, like, you know, you know, Prussia was populated when the Prussians conquered it.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You know, these, these Slavic Wens, they, um, there were people somewhat adjacent to, you know, the pagan Baltic tribes, you know, who some of the later crusades were waged against. You know, this was a wild land, but, you know, the, um, there's precedent within the German, cultural and military psychology for this. And you know, it's like saying, you know, people saying like, oh, you know, it's laughable to say that, you know, Hitler viewed America as the adversary of Europe, you know, when he was talking about putting, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:17 entire countries to the sword in the east. It's really not, man. I mean, it's, did, you know, did, during the Creek War, did, uh, did, did people view the United States? kingdom is a greater existential threat to America or, you know, or the Comanche.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You know, like one thing is related to the other because, you know, if you're fighting quite literally a war against two discrete populations, you know, there's there's going to be some sort of
Starting point is 00:40:53 weighing of, you know, the relative threat potential of both. But the idea that you know, the willingness to exterminate a people in lieu of abiding the laws and customs of war is pre-finition evidence that those people are, you know, your worst enemy. It's not conceptually, that's not how high politics works. Are we, you know, the theory. Are we seeing that today on the news every day?
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, yeah, exactly. the uh you know there's also too there's not um we don't think of germany as a colonial power you know during the second wave of colonialism but they were you know and um arguably contextual pretext too is the herero uprising in in 1904 in German Africa General Lothar
Starting point is 00:42:00 Von Schrothe there was this uprising obviously of these Herrero tribesmen and they were driven out and chased into the into the Kalaharra
Starting point is 00:42:20 into this adjacent territory of the Kalahari Desert which was which was a wasteland Okay Montrotha He had them locked down
Starting point is 00:42:32 And he had any Refugees who tried to Access water Were shot So my Montrotha At his men were quite literally
Starting point is 00:42:48 Hunting these people To extinction in the desert Um Trotha himself Um referred to the order he was the order that he issued, you know, regarding the treatment of these people and not distinguishing, you know, between, um, between persons, you know, regardless of sex, age, ability to bear arms, overall health, you know, they were all to be killed. So-called, very next stung as badful, quite literally an annihilation order or annihilation command.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And his words, the her, quote, the Herrero are no longer German subjects. Within the German border, every Herrera was shot with or without a rifle, without cattle. I take no more wives and children. I take no more wives and no children. I drive them back to their people or let them be shot. You know, I mean, that's incredibly hard words from a hard man. But the, um... Ready for huge savings?
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Starting point is 00:45:05 I hope that that's not, you know, rendering this whole pig. You'll bring it back home. We got it. Right. The, the Revenge of the Sims, and to tell you, you know, I make the point about
Starting point is 00:45:26 Hitler being, Hitler was a political gambler, but he was militarily cautious. And that's a stolfie point. as well. We'll get into some of that too because it's significant to kind of like the myth versus
Starting point is 00:45:47 reality of Adolf Hitler. But something that something that is undeniable is that Hitler was several steps ahead of his generals.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I don't think anybody in the OKW had truly developed sense of the political in the way that Hitler did. Okay, in generals, for the most part, don't. That's the only thing that's crazy to me, you know, people these days in this country act like generals,
Starting point is 00:46:29 you know, understand power political affairs and that it's perfectly legitimate for them to have opinions on policy. Like, you know, the army has no policy. But it's also, and this isn't me trashing military men, they
Starting point is 00:46:42 they deal in concrete particulars. And a very kind of discreet, you know, it's remarkably complicated, but a very discreet, you know, sort of a sphere of action. You know, they don't generally have a great understanding of the political impactfulness of military activity, nor how political occurrence is indexing military activity. I mean, most people don't, but, you know, generals especially, this stands out, contrary Hitler. Hitler could look at a political situation and a burgeoning crisis and generally discern what was developing, you know, four or five proverbial moves ahead. Like, that's what the game of chess is, okay? Like, I went to a phase I was playing a lot of chess as a kid, and, like, I read all the chess books and stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Then I found out like I love pool, you know, and Dilliers. But, you know, what these chess masters can do, like, there's this movie about, like, Bobby Fisher. Now he's like a persona on Grata because he's, like, anti-Semitic, or he said something nice about Serbia or something, but he's, you know, he was canceled. But there's this movie about Bobby Fisher and, you know, kind of like his life as this, you know, child prodigy. and the way they portray it, I realize we've got to portray things in a certain way in film to make it compelling,
Starting point is 00:48:18 but especially if it's a cerebral process you're trying to convey to the audience. But the way these high-level chess kids are playing, it's almost like a shootout. You know, like Fisher, like moves his night. You know, then like the other kid, like Perry is almost and moves as bishop. It's not how, like, top-level chess masters play.
Starting point is 00:48:38 They're like five moves ahead. You know, and they're figuring out the best way to facilitate, like, that in-game. that they've already seen. And like, if that potentiality collapses, it's like, okay, you know, they're rapidly reorienting towards, you know, another outcome
Starting point is 00:48:56 that's like five moves ahead. You know, that's, that's same thing with the game theory. You know, if you want to fight and win a nuclear war, I don't, I don't get into the debate about, like, can anyone win a nuclear war? That's an ethical judgment. And also, like, yes, you can,
Starting point is 00:49:11 but it depends on what the victory metric is. and that's not an absolute criteria. But point being, if you're going to fight to win a nuclear war, you basically have to be three steps ahead. Okay, you can't be rendering decision, you know, in the moment and waiting for the variables to reveal. But, so Hitler,
Starting point is 00:49:39 Hitler realized that God damn I lost my train thought I'm still like not at 100%. Oh Hitler took On
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Starting point is 00:51:07 Liddle, more to value. You know, on December 11th, and we'll get to this next time, that was Hitler's speech to the Reichstag you know where he announced the Declaration of War against the United States this was also you know as the assault
Starting point is 00:51:29 on them Moscow was failing like catastrophically um Hitler a famously issue of the order you know the army group center
Starting point is 00:51:46 um don't you dare retreat and this is characterized as Hitler being you know like this madman but um Hillary was trying to salvage what remained of the operation because
Starting point is 00:52:04 Moscow had to fall in December or all was lost okay and I believe he knew that on some level and everything subsequent was an anti-climax but apparently apparently
Starting point is 00:52:22 OKW over the High-March's High Command This was when W. Chief Operations Walter Varlamant He contacted Yodel and said, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:44 who was then chief of operations of OKW? Rolamant, you know, said, you know, have you heard of the Fuhrers that's a clear war in America? you know Yodel said yes and um according to Varlumont like Yodel was like white as a sheet
Starting point is 00:53:07 you know it said that you know now the you know the the general staff is charged with you know now we have to examine where the United States has most likely to employ the bulk of our forces initially whether it's the far east or Europe and we can't take further decisions until that has been clarified Verlermont replied, well, he said this is obviously a necessary consideration, you know, commissioning this analysis. But he said, you know, he said this is mad. We've never been considered a war against the United States,
Starting point is 00:53:50 and we have no data on which to base this examination. You know, we can hardly undertake his job just like that. Hitler fired Verlomont when he heard of this and said he never wanted to see him again or speak to him. Hitler sidelined yodel and Hitler said, you know what? I'm making myself chief of staff of
Starting point is 00:54:13 OkW. Hitler said there's nothing that like, he said there's nothing like a general a staff officer of Feld Marshal can teach an army. What he can do is he can educate them politically.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You know, and he can explain to them what needs to be done by inundating them with an understanding of the stakes they're in. Now again, people turn around to say that megalomaniac Hitler, like he appointed himself
Starting point is 00:54:52 Chief of OKW. Well, you know what he did by doing that? Everything that went wrong now Hitler could not issue responsibility for. Okay? From that point forward, he couldn't blame the generals or the army for sabotaging anything.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It seems like the play of a man who was trying to avoid responsibility or take on offices symbolic or or wielding actual authority for the sake of
Starting point is 00:55:25 for the sake of glory. But part of Hitler's rage here you know was against Varlamat. It was what the hell are you talking about? Like the whole reason we're doing this is because America is going to destroy us. You know, we don't survive unless we become a superpower.
Starting point is 00:55:48 You know, we don't survive unless we can compete on all these conditions of parity with the United States. You know, and fortify, you know, fortify the Western, the Atlantic Wall. in such depth that is essentially suicide to assault it, you know, and sort of force America to accept our hegemony over the continent in Central Asia, west of the Urals. Just as, you know, everybody's, you know, all other, all rival, sovereign powers are, you know, must accept. America's a Gemini
Starting point is 00:56:35 pursuant to the Monroe Doctrine. And that was that was Hitler's thinking. You know, his exact words Hitler's were, this little affair of operational command is really something anybody can do.
Starting point is 00:57:00 The commander-in-chief's job is to train the army and the national socialist idea. I know of no general who could do that is I want it done. For that reason, I've taken command of the army myself. The European winner of 1941 into 42 was the coldest of the 20th century. There's rarely temperatures of 49 below Fahrenheit. Just horrible conditions to fight in.
Starting point is 00:57:35 But again, Germany was racing the clock. you know, it wasn't just Stalin planned to assault the German Reich, absolutely. But even with that not the case, you know, Germany had to survive. Germany had to win in the East before America was able to accomplish full mobilization. And the Rainbow Five document, which was leaked. For years, it was blamed on poor Hap Arnold. Deliberately, I believe, by intelligence elements in the United States. But the entire League of the Rainbow Five document was to convince Berlin and specifically Hitler
Starting point is 00:58:26 that America could reach full mobilization potential and deploy both the Pacific and the European Battle Theater. They basically pushed it back. pushed it forward a year. In, you know, contra what was actually possible, you know, and Hitler saw the writing on the wall. And
Starting point is 00:58:52 that's why it's laughable and, you know, I mean, I raised this again, because we're talking about, like, the real Hitler here and his ambitions as well as his character as warlord. But this is idea that, you know, Hitler declared war in the United States for no reason or because he was a crazy man or because he wanted to you wanted to quote distract people from the looming failure in in the East which
Starting point is 00:59:25 makes no sense whatsoever but it um you know I the United States already declared war on Germany de facto on December 11th on September 11th another ausp of September 11th 941 when um you know the the Department Department declared that any any German flagship of in the North Atlantic, encountered by American vessels, will be destroyed. You know, so that's,
Starting point is 00:59:51 um, that's, um, in strategic terms and political terms, all this, um, I mean, all this coal lasses into, you know, um,
Starting point is 01:00:09 an inevitability that, um, you know, an American global superpower means that Germany perishes. And, um, Germany is Europe. and Europe is Germany and power of political terms such that we're extended in the 20th century.
Starting point is 01:00:29 You know, and that's another thing too, and we'll get into this as we get into some of the second book, some of the substantive stuff in the second book, Hitler viewed the Soviet Union as kind of a Frankenstein's monster, where there was this revolutionary cadre piloting the proverbial head. that without that kind of firm control on the machinery of that monstrous head, you know, the entire sort of Golem just, it collapses, you know, or perhaps it's hijacked by, you know, socialist, nationalist, nationalist, Russian elements. Air Grid, Operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your
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Starting point is 01:02:54 military you know um so is that too um and obviously this was you know pre-atomic age um so that didn't teach into the equation but um let me see what I'll say there's something else I think I wanted to mention yeah well uh again I'm sorry I mean kind of scatter shot. I'm still I'm still not 100%. We'll get into the brass tax of a we'll get into the brass tax of
Starting point is 01:03:36 Stolfi's characterization of Hitler. The Sims book will get directly into some of Sims claims and you know then we'll do kind of a comparative retrospective you know on these kinds of soft revisionist views of
Starting point is 01:03:55 the furor like what they have in common with you know in terms of um in terms of a historical agreement and what they don't and then um maybe uh maybe we'll conclude
Starting point is 01:04:12 you know with um discussing Poland a little bit more and um you know kind of like the personal side of Hitler and how that's been um that that's been kind of more addressed more and a more mature and and sober way as well, which makes sense.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Because regardless of everyone feels about a giant historical person, it's, you know, his personal life such that it existed in any given case is essential, understanding the man. And that's all I got. Like I said, sorry if I wasn't up to snuff. I'm still getting over my last little bout of rheumatoid misery. No problem at all. do some quick plugs and we'll get out of here.
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Starting point is 01:05:46 it's thomas seven seven seven how are you doing thomas i'm doing well man um yeah it was it was a good trip and West Virginia is a fascinating place and it's a really it's just really interesting part of the country man and it's still America's so big there's still like a lot of there's a lot of differences between places you know on the ground like at the local level
Starting point is 01:06:12 and that that was a no exception like um I wonder this guy's like there's this guy with like an antique like junk shop it literally looked just like he literally just looked like some order like sitting in a garage I think it's like what he was. He was like selling the shitty hordes. And there was some like fascinating stuff there. Some of which was like not remotely politically correct.
Starting point is 01:06:37 When you get to the south, when you get to the south, you can find a lot of places like that. Well, if you're asking my buddy Damon, who's from Shytown, um, he, uh, he found this, uh, he found this menu from a Picaninnati's restaurants. it's like a it was on like a you know like it was like a menu that's like also like a mass you can hold the front of your face like a very plainly incorrect depiction of uh i guess a picketing and then like we look at the back and it was uh it was it was from a freaking location that was on like west madison in chicago like back in the day i'm like wow it's wild but uh yeah all that all that kind of stuff that people um i guess i got stuff that makes like redditors like soil their panties with like outrage and shock or something like whoa just whoa this used to exist like uh but that um i mean you find some pretty weird shit like here at all you know in chicago like that ddr helmet it's like an original like vaux police eye um like m56 helmet i totally i found this like random antique shop and there's this old lady's like oh that's my husband's stuff just give me like 30 dollars for it so
Starting point is 01:07:42 like yeah bet but uh but i mean don't um like it sounds like weird an entirely different way and um like went to this like really good bar at you place like my guts weren't agreeing with me I've got a Pepsi, but it was just, it was literally like these two trailers and like this guy, this like boss hog looking guy, like working at grill. And like, and then, yeah, like a couple of like picnic tables as like an eating area. And like, it's like this is fucking nuts. You know, like cash only, of course. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Like Rustic America lives on, at least in West Virginia. So that's good to see, man. I spend so much time in like big cities. you know I uh and um and being like in places you know like Baltimore suburbs like DC or it's like damn man like has everything been like homogenized into into a big like Walmart so it's good to see that shit man so yeah it was good yeah growing up in the city um and now living where I live it's when I go to the city now that I'm like what the hell's going on here I don't really I want to go back to the country yeah no I in the country yeah no I in the country
Starting point is 01:08:51 is dope, but I'm a city slicker, so I can't permanently leave. I like, I, um, I can only survive, like, in this ecology or something. Like, I, I don't know, like, too much wholesomeness and clean air. It might, like, kill me. All right, man, part two. Yeah, I, I, something I think I need to emphasize. And like I said, like, the reason I discussed primarily the Sims biography of Hitler from 2017 last time.
Starting point is 01:09:23 When I say that Roosevelt was Hitler's primary, was Hitler's mortal enemy, like people misunderstand what I'm saying. That's not, you know, people who kind of accept mainstream narratives say like, oh yeah, you know, Hitler was anti-American. No, no, no, no, no, it's not what I'm saying. And it's not, um,
Starting point is 01:09:40 Hitler didn't covet. I mean, Hitler definitely was practicing like a Velt's politic and a, like, gross wrong politic. But this, I mean, this idea like, oh, Hitler had Americanist sites on grounds of some, for, you know, like world domination. That's ridiculous, too. I mean, for no other reason, I mean, it's ridiculous conceptually, but Germany,
Starting point is 01:10:01 Germany's a country that's smaller than Wyoming. Okay, I mean, it's just not. And finally, you know, like I said, in one of our earlier series, I cited Hannah Arendt, who's an interesting thinker for a few reasons, but one of, in her book, The Origin of Totalitarianism, which is a stupid title, because that sounds like just some kind of boilerplate,
Starting point is 01:10:26 you know, kind of like dummy academia type work product of the kind that came out of the era. But it's actually a really insightful book. And, you know, she was an accolite of Heidegger. And may have been like a romantic partner of his, but, you know, she's on making the point that, like,
Starting point is 01:10:44 Hitler wasn't a nationalist and that, like, German nationalism was dead. You know, and you don't understand national socialism and you don't understand the move Hitler was making if you don't understand that he was thinking in terms of like the superpower age you know and to survive
Starting point is 01:11:00 Europe had to be able to capture you know the the land and resources that it needed in order to in order to mobilize into a superpower you know like the future belong to the United States and the Soviet Union and
Starting point is 01:11:16 um and um and there was perspective ideology, unless Europe could find a way to survive. And also, you know, Roosevelt was, um, Roosevelt viewed Hitler as his, as his adversary. You know, the New Deal regime, it was a revolutionary regime in all kinds of ways in terms of its values and underlying philosophies.
Starting point is 01:11:41 But at base also, the, the framework for globalism, at least conceptually, was being laid by the, ideologies of the day and the New Deal was no exception and if for another reason you know like we've told we haven't really taught about this here and it's it's outside the scope but like the great depression I don't think it's mysterious I mean like I've said before like Murray Rothbard's book on it I think it's the best treatment and Joseph Schumpeter his his is a his his his his magnum opus business cycles was a huge undertaking it's like two values it's incredibly complicated, but that kind of explains over time.
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Starting point is 01:13:27 but I mean it was basically a cash drought and it owed the absence of an integrated banking structure okay I don't want to get a debate about like whether banking is evil or not like the guys have like banking on their brain or like cockroaches like they'll infest like a discussion and then they won't shut the fuck up because like they think bankers pissing their corn flakes I don't want to talk about that well what's what's so
Starting point is 01:13:49 What's inarguable, though, is that however you fall on the issue of, you know, fiat currency and that entire kind of category of economics, you know, like finance economics and monetary economics. It was clear that, you know, not just for, not just not just only to, you know, conceptual and political reasons, but for structural reasons, you know, like globalism was was going to take shape somehow. So you were going to become a superpower or die. and um you know Roosevelt obviously um owing to a an affinity for the Soviet Union but also viewing Europe as as basically America's like primary adversary I mean that's perverse for a lot of reasons but um within the kind of internal logic of like the New Deal ideology I mean it makes sense. I'm going to start. I want to talk a little bit about Hitler's December 11th speech to the Reichstag. I've mentioned that before. It's tremendously important. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:58 For a long time, we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Roosevelt's radio address in 1938, which was a direct challenge to Hitler. And then Hitler surprised everybody. Hitler directly responded to Roosevelt point by point. And the consensus was that he utterly destroyed him and made him look like a fool. And the thing about Hitler was that Hitler wasn't a normal politician. He wrote all his own speeches. He didn't have speechwriters. Despite the fact that he kind of founded the modern political campaign, like Hitler wasn't going around taking public opinion polls and like worrying about optics.
Starting point is 01:15:40 You know, he put a premium on presentation and Elon and a certain aesthetic you know that would obviously animate people and kind of stir their passions but in terms of the content of what he'd say he was basically like he was behaving like some kind of evangelical
Starting point is 01:16:02 preacher almost you know everything came back to like the European cause and like an antel social revolution and these are our ambitions you know this is what we have to do you know this is this can't be compromised you know these are the core principles you know like it was never um oh I'm talking I'm talking, you know, the German labor front, you know, so I'm going to pretend to be a worker.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Or like, you know, now I'm talking to the, I'm talking to, you know, men who represent the textiles industry. So I'm going to pretend, you know, that they're going to get subsidies if they back me and, you know, put money in the Congress. Like, shit like that didn't even figure into the equation. Okay. Roosevelt, I think, thought Hitler was a politician. I don't think, I don't think Roosevelt had a real interest in the rest of the world. You know, like, he was worldly in the way that, like, kind of the old, like, Brahmin cast here was. but he, you know, it's like, Hitler was a polymath.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Until his, until Hitler's, I'd say before 942, you know, when Hitler really started deteriorating in terms of his health and everything. Hitler didn't do anything all day but consumed data. You know, like, uh, Otto Gunch famously relayed, he's like, you know, during, during OKW briefings, like, somebody would misstate the caliber of like an artillery piece or like the specs of like an armored vehicle and Hitler would correct him. and then like somebody would go check you know in the in the
Starting point is 01:17:18 in the tech manual and realized like Hitler was right you know like he he was so I mean Hitler he had a weird rep for being you know rep for being a weird bohemian who like slept late and stayed up late and had weird habits which he did but during his waking hours everything Roosevelt said publicly
Starting point is 01:17:38 Hitler paid attention to and took seriously like everything Churchill said publicly like everything the Soviet Union was doing, you know, he was studying it. You know, like he was, that's all he did. You know, so this idea that Roosevelt could kind of like grandstand and, and issue this kind of like dummy polemic,
Starting point is 01:17:58 you know, about, you know, Hitler being a threat to world peace. I'm thinking that, like, that would just be allowed to stand. Like, that's, that's laughable. But we're going to go backwards a bit, because like I said, I think the starting point should be the rachshed speech, because people don't understand why. First of all, that the Reichstag speech, it was never translated in English in full until the 1980s sometime. Like the New York Times ran a fake translation, like full of Hitler saying crazy things, like about he wanted to conquer the world and full of this
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Starting point is 01:19:29 The vitrole against Jews and stuff, that's not what was said. And I came across the full, like, accurate translation and Institute for Historical Review stuff, sometime in the 90s. But, you know, it's something, it's not, I mean, the speech was, it was significant for a few reasons. First of all, because Hitler announced that we were reforming at war at the United States as my declaration at war. And despite what people claim, you know, like I said before,
Starting point is 01:20:01 America was waging war on the Third Reich for years. And then three months previously, the U.S. naval commanded declared that they were going to fire on any German flight. ship they encountered in the North Atlantic. And then it was also declared that America's, the contiguous zone to America's territorial waters was considered to be our essential defensive Concord stretched from,
Starting point is 01:20:27 stretch all the way to Greenland. And, I mean, it was just basically like America said, like anything in the Atlantic Ocean with a German flag, we're going to kill. Okay. You don't get to turn around and then say, like, oh, the Germans are making war on us. but um so there was that and also it's interesting because you know Hitler fought American infantry you know and like I said in the Sims book he talked about how like the Americans are better than us in key ways yeah he wasn't some like dummy chauvinist at all and he said um you know he was big into
Starting point is 01:21:04 Americana he loved King Kong he loved Coca-Cola he read Western books all the time like both history as well was like cults when he was a kid. I mean he he knew America and like what it was about. You know, um, it's this idea that he, he just had some kind of like haughty disdain or that he was like some some hicc from the sticks who didn't understand power politics of scale is ridiculous. But it's also too, you know, the Wilson's intervention is what really changed the war and it wasn't just, I mean, they changed the outcome of the war. You know, so I mean, any an American president was going to loom large in the mind of, you know, a guy he'd served as a frontline lonsor, even if he wasn't, you know, politically engaged, you know, let alone the man who's, you know, entire life is politics. So it was just a couple key.
Starting point is 01:22:01 There's a couple, the speech of the Reich Day, again, it was Thursday, it was over Thursday afternoon, December 11th, 1941. Four days after the Japanese assault in Pearl Harbor, obviously. it was an 88 minute speech which for Hitler was long. He'd written in himself as he wrote everything himself. He explicated why the status of forces on the Ostfront, which by then the assault on Moscow was in the process of failing. So I mean, a crisis was looming. So Hitler emphasized, you know, the
Starting point is 01:22:44 victories to that point, I mean, which were massive. You know, but mainly he talks about America. You know, like he doesn't, he doesn't mention Stalin at all. He talks about the Soviet Union and how the Soviets, the Soviets acted in bad faith. He's like, we signed the non-aggression pact because, you know, we had no illusions that the Bolsheviks
Starting point is 01:23:08 were our mortal enemies. But he said, we believe that they wanted peace, at least for the time being. He says that when it became clear to me, he said it became clear to me that their intentions were hostile when they immediately opened up diplomatic channels with the coup in Yugoslavia, 1941, which, uh,
Starting point is 01:23:34 Yugoslavia was key to Germany's ability to deploy in depth, obviously. and the coup was a it was for all practical purposes was a Chetnik coup and Hitler said subsequently you know the Red Army is deployed offensively on our frontier
Starting point is 01:23:51 he said only a fool wouldn't realize the implications of you know 20,000 tanks and you know dozens of divisions you know a raid on the eastern frontier I mean so he said
Starting point is 01:24:06 that war was forced on us, but, you know, there's an inevitability to this paradigm anyway. He talks about Churchill as being kind of just like a pathetic cipher of the focus, which he was. But the rest of it, he talks about Roosevelt, and he talks about America. You know, that's what the bulk of the speech is dedicated to do. You know, like, while, again, German forces are actively engaged at the gates of Moscow and across a, you know, a 2,000 mile front, you know, literally the greatest battle in human history. And Hitler's talking about Roosevelt in America.
Starting point is 01:24:46 You know, not, and that, that's apropos. You know, he basically outlined, he, well, first he starts out of saying, like, you know, look, he was like, we made repeated peace over chores to London. one of the last of which actually divided the war cabinet and almost cost the Churchill and government its mandate. Quoting Hillary says
Starting point is 01:25:22 Already in 1940 it became increasingly clear from month and month that the plans of the men and the Kremlin were aimed at the domination and the destruction of all of Europe. I already told the nation that built of a Soviet-Russian military power in the east. During a period when Germany had only a few divisions in the provinces bordering Soviet Russia, that true. Continuing, only a blind person could fail to see that a military buildup of unique world-historal dimensions is being carried out. This is not in order to protect something that's
Starting point is 01:25:47 being threatened, but rather only to attack that which is incapable of defense. Again, because people in this country to this day have this idea of Germany as being this kind of, almost almost this kind of, I think they imagined almost like the Soviet Union is presented in Rocky Four or something. But again, Germany, was this it's a country smaller than Wyoming you know um and for context too and Hitler gets into some of this I'm not going to read a word for work so it would be pedantic but you know the issue of Czechoslovakia as we got into in one of our earlier series Chicago's the most artificial of states
Starting point is 01:26:33 Venice literally had no mandate to rule Roosevelt and his press corps presented it when very rapidly the bulk of Czechoslovak territory came under German dominion as some sort of like threatening ledgered main, you know, leading like the kind of bullying occupation of a sovereign country. That's not remotely what happened. Her context due, Prague is, as the girl flies, 200 miles from Berlin. I mean, think about that. I think it was I think it might have been Hess. He said the Czechoslovak state
Starting point is 01:27:16 is a contrivance and it literally is like a knife like pointed at the heart of Germany which is true. It came into existence because the French needed some sort of ally in the east in order to stage you know assault operations from
Starting point is 01:27:38 and in the era of military aviation which was then burgeoning at pace like the implications were obvious okay but as it may like as we discussed the Sudaten land was seated to the Reich
Starting point is 01:27:56 which was overwhelmingly German after that Father Tiso and the Slovox seceded from the Czech Slovakia and Union, I mean, at that point, it was a foregone conclusion. Like, what, I mean, that's like saying, that's like saying, like, East Germany should have, like, it was a tragedy that East Germany ceased to exist. I mean, like, I, what, um, I still
Starting point is 01:28:20 at this day don't understand, like, what the proposed alternative was, should they, should the British have assaulted Czechoslovakia to force it to exist? Like, I don't, that's not, that's not how political realities work. Um, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, literally assinine. But moving on, Hillary continues by saying, he essentially says what Suburov echoed later,
Starting point is 01:28:49 that the rapid conclusion of the war in the West you know, May to June 1940 meant that that changed things in terms of, you know, Moscow's strategic perspective. They couldn't count on they counted on the, they count on
Starting point is 01:29:07 right either exhausting its offensive capabilities rapidly and not being able to reconstitute you know for for months if not years or some sort of quagmire stalemate setting in you know whereby um whereby the only where by where by germany had nothing to deploy in depth in the east other than uh you know maybe like a skeleton crew of conscripts air grid operator of Ireland's Electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person. So together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community. Find out more at airgrid.a.e. 4. Northwest.
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Starting point is 01:30:32 Be drink aware. a drinkaware.a.e. Which would make for, you know, easy pickings. The, you know, thus Suvorov's icebreaker descriptor, you know, let the German Reich, you know, break the proverbial ice of what remains of capitalist power on the continent, you know, and then the Red Army will assault and take it all. And that's definitely reached the Atlantic.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Most significant to me are some of what Hitler says about his worldview. I'm quoting Hiller now at about the midpoint. He says, what is Europe? There is no geographical definition of our continent. But only an ethnic national,
Starting point is 01:31:17 the word he uses vocalish and cultural one. The frontier this continent is not that rural mountains, but rather the line that divides the western outlook on life from that of the east. Now, if you look at a map, and I don't know if people spend time with
Starting point is 01:31:35 maps anymore. I mean, just looking at maps. Europe's an indefensible rump peninsula. You know, there's not a Sahara desert or an Appalachian mountain range between Europe and the other. It's so amazing that Europe existed at all. You know, really, and it's essentially starred of natural resources. You know, Europe's very beautiful in terms of its fistas and things, but it's basically a wasteland. If you're talking about tertiary economic capital and things like that, okay?
Starting point is 01:32:17 So that point's well taken. You know, Europe's an idea. You know, Europe's not sub-Saharan Africa. Europe's not, you know, East Asia. Europe's not North America. You know, like Europe only exists as like it's the mention material. in the several cultures that constitute it. Hillelwyn proceeds to break down
Starting point is 01:32:38 his view of, you know, kind of like European origins or like Aryan origins. Okay. And again, as I said before, Aryan wasn't some scare word. That's, um, philologist. That was like what, that's the term they used. Okay. And it's not, it's been appropriated by some dummies, but as well as, you know, the usual suspects, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:00 like commies, hysterical SPLC types, like other other shit bags, but it's not an ideologically loaded word, you know, or it shouldn't be. And I find Indo-European to be clunky, unless you're a linguist and you're simply talking about
Starting point is 01:33:16 you know, kind of the nuances of linguistic development. We're talking about like an actual culture of people like Aryan is appropriate. It was stated at one time Europe was confined to the Greek Isles. With a flame first burned that slowly but steadily enlightened humanity.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And when these Greeks fought against the invasion of the Persian conquerors, they did not just defend their own small homeland, which was Greece, but also the concept that is now Europe. And then the spirit is, Europe shifted from Hellas to Rome. Roman thought and Roman statecraft combined with Greek spirit and Greek culture, an empire was created, the importance and creative power of which has never been matched, much less surpassed, even to this day. and when the Roman Legion defended Italy
Starting point is 01:34:00 in three terrible wars against the attack of that occurred from Africa and finally battle the victory, in this case as well, Rome fought not just for herself, but also for the Greco-Roman world that then encompassed Europe. The next invasion against the home soil of the new culture of humanity came from the white expanses
Starting point is 01:34:17 of the east. A horrific storm of cultural was horrors from the center of Asia, poured deep under the heart of the European continent, burning, ravaging, and murdering, a true scourge of God. On the Catalonian fields, Roman and Germanic men fought together for the first time, in a decisive battle of tremendous importance for a culture that had begun with the Greeks, passed under the Romans, and then encompassed the German peoples.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Europe had matured. The Occident arose from Hellas and Rome, and for many centuries its defense, with the task not only the Romans, but above all of the German people. What we call Europe is the geographic territory of the Occident, enlightened by Greek culture, inspired by the powerful heritage of the Roman Empire, its territory enlarged by German colonization, or was the German emperors fighting back invasions from the east
Starting point is 01:34:59 on the Struct or on the Lechfeld plain or others pushing back Africa from Spain or a period of many years it was always a struggle of developing Europe against a profoundly alien outside world There's this heavy stuff
Starting point is 01:35:13 for a consular or a president or a prime minister Okay I mean I I think that goes about saying And it's not It's not just It's not just like hyperbole or can
Starting point is 01:35:28 polemic of the kind that they you know of that was common to the nationalist era or whatever the kind of dismissive suggestion is
Starting point is 01:35:40 favored by court academics these days and also what he's saying what he said is inarguable like all those things are true you know what um and then um
Starting point is 01:35:52 and we'll get to the meat of the the kind of Roosevelt the challenge Contra Roosevelt in a minute, but he goes on to say specifically that, you know, we're now engaged in a war for our civilization against another terror from the East, and this is only possible only to the, you know, the volunteers from Croatia, from Italy, from Spain, you know, from Norway, from Denmark, from France.
Starting point is 01:36:16 You know, this is a European war. There are no more Germans. There are no more Norwegians. There are no more Frenchmen. You know, this is the battle of the the Occasand for its survival against the barbarian-Asiatic horde. And, you know, the Jewish capitalist ideology that's facilitating its attack on us, you know, exemplified by Mr. Roosevelt. That's, and he concludes kind of this summation, I like the strategic situation by saying, you know, this is what happens on these battlefields is going to resonate for 5,000 years, you know, and Europe will not survive unless it's victorious. And again, I mean, that's an arguable too. You know, you don't have to be a Hitler partisan to accept that. How anybody can kind of contradict that reality anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And, you know, kind of paraphrines that, you know, Hitler is the double in this kind of like Life magazine perspective of the condition of the oxidant, you know, circa 1941. I don't know how people can possibly think that way, but I mean, people think all kinds of crazy things. And now here's the meat of what we're, of what I want to emphasize.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Quote, Hitler says, and now let me speak about another world. One of those represented by a man who likes the chat nicely at the fireside while nations and their soldiers fight in the snow and ice. Above all, the man was primarily responsible for this war. Speaking of Franklin, then what Roosevelt, obviously.
Starting point is 01:38:07 The only continues, with regard to Germany's relationship with America, the following should be said. Germany is perhaps the only great power which is never in a colony in either North or South America, nor is it otherwise been politically active there, apart from the immigration of many millions of Germans with their skills, from which the American continent and the Middle States has only benefited. In the entire history of the development and existence of the United States, the German Reich has never been hostile or even politically unfriendly towards the United States. To the contrary, many Germans have given their lives to defend the USA. That is true. The German Reich has never participated in wars against the United States, except for the United States went to war against it in 1917.
Starting point is 01:38:43 It did so for reasons that have been thoroughly explained by commission. What he's talking about is the Nye Commission, which we covered in an earlier episode. I can't emphasize that not how much World War I was kind of viewed as like the Vietnam War of its day. It was viewed as a lie that duped the American people. people, you know, killed 100,000 young men in the prime of their life, who were then later abused, you know, by being denied their pension rights. Gerald Nye, who wasn't some like America Firster, he was a big progressive liberal. He chaired the, he convened the Nye commission and basically, I mean, it basically exposed that J.P. Morgan when it realized that it had, you know, it's, it had hedged adequately. in its loans to the UK.
Starting point is 01:39:43 It essentially demanded, you know, action from the White House when we olded undue influence to get a war declaration. You know, like, people were outraged by when this was coming out. You know, like nobody viewed World War I as anything but a disaster and as a big lie. So, you know, and Hitler obviously, like, like the view of a... And I was shouted down by this code or
Starting point is 01:40:08 of a of a of, of, um, of old party men saying, you know, you're besmirching them, you know, you're, you're smirching the grave of of, of, of, of President Wilson. When he's doing no such thing, and honestly, like, even Hitler didn't talk about Wilson as being a bad man.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Like, Wilson was cast as this kind of, like, naive guy. The 14 points actually was, like, the only kind of honorable piece. Um, uh, the situation that was presented, you know, that honored the rights of the combat and said any real way. You know, it was Wilson who basically said that, like, you know, states have an absolute right to, you know, to preserve the majority national culture. You know, and it was the French and the British delegation who basically laughed in his face and demanded vengeance.
Starting point is 01:41:00 you know like it was so i mean i and i wasn't wasn't burning wilson in perugel effigy and honestly and hitler never held out wilson as an evil man like you basically he basically looked at him as like a weak man was pulled over by um by high finance and uh and dupont uh which was a which was a a a huge arm and's concern among other things um you know they they made they manufactured uh they manufactured basically like everything that allowed the AEF to fight. You know, like we talked about, like, this is a rare instance of, you know, financial concerns and economics basically, you know, being the proximate cause of a war declaration or like intervention at scale. You know, so it's not like Hitler wasn't just saying crazy things. I mean, this was basically the majority opinion, you know, of, not just of, of Europeans and of Germans, you know, obviously felt like uniquely agreed.
Starting point is 01:42:08 But, I mean, in America, this is why, this is the way people looked at it. You know, I mean, it, um, this wasn't, uh, the fact, uh, I mean, honestly, like, I think we, we talked about in the new, when we were covering the New Dealers War and some of the Tom Fleming scholarship. I mean, had it not been for the Pearl Harbor attack, I, I don't think Rosell could have gotten a war mandate. You know, and once under our system, you know, when, I mean, even today, even, even post-Watergate, when the executive has been gilded, you know, a, a wartime president is, is, for all practical purposes, you know, a lawn to himself. I mean, like, look at, look at, I mean, look at, look at Bush 43. Like, I mean, like, he might have been like a goofy and effectual guy and whatever, but his administration wielded real power. Okay. And that, that only came,
Starting point is 01:42:59 they only derived from the fact that he was a wartime president. You know, and no matter what, like all rhetoric kind of goes out the window of the opposition when so situated. Vietnam's a weird exception, but that's too complicated to get into here as a tangent. But that's, I raised that because I'm sure people who aren't familiar with the history will just say, like, oh, Hitler's just maligning, you know, of course, he's going to say that, you know, World War I was based on a lie. That's not, that wasn't as like Hitler's take. That was what everybody viewed it as. And frankly, that, that's what it was. You know, what, um, why, why, why, why did America fight World War I? Because it just, it just really,
Starting point is 01:43:43 really doesn't like, it really doesn't like monarchs and, like, democracy has to reign. Like, so, so we got to make sure that the British Empire can squeeze every last, every last bit of, um, reparations that of Germany. I mean, honestly, I was, I was his, was bullshit. But, um, it's, uh, the, uh, and finally, um, interestingly, Hitler makes note of like the article two presidency, he says, America is a republic led by a president with wide-ranging powers of authority. Germany was once ruled by a monarchy with limited authority and then by democracy that lacked authority. Today is a republic of wide-ranging authority between these two countries as an ocean. If anything, the differences between
Starting point is 01:44:25 capitalist American, Bolshevik, Russia, if these have any meaning at all, must be more significant than those between the America led by a president and the Germany led by a fear. And that's important too because obviously, you know, the constant refrain not just of Roosevelt's Roosevelt and his loyalist, but
Starting point is 01:44:40 you know, administrations before and sense who want to malign people and countries they've identified as a opponent is they're talking about dictatorships. I mean, America is a presidential system. Like again, I mean, there's
Starting point is 01:44:57 there's few there's few countries in the western world or what was once the Western world that have a system that orbits around the chief executive to the degree that America does. There was something of a weird irony to America going around saying,
Starting point is 01:45:16 you know, Mr. Putin is a dictator. Like, you know, this country is a dictatorship. You know, it's like, well, as opposed to what? Like, you, they should have, they should have a House of Commons and a prime minister can be ejected by no confidence vote. I mean, you know, I mean, it's the, um, America's the land of the sovereign executive. You know, I mean, I was, um, air grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up
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Starting point is 01:46:35 Get the facts. Be Drinkaware. Visit drinkaware.com. That really is the legacy of Hamilton more than anything. And to his credit, in my opinion. But the... What's interesting about this, too,
Starting point is 01:46:54 is that this... the Reichstag's speech. I mean, it was timely, again, because of the... strategic situation, but also FDR on April 14, 1939, in his radio address, he issued this what was called his challenge to Hitler. Okay, now, the words of it were
Starting point is 01:47:21 as follows, quote, because the United States, as one of the nations of the Western Hemisphere, is not involved in the immediate controversies which have arisen in Europe, I trust that you would be willing to make such a statement of policy to me as head of a nation far removed from Europe in order that I acting with only responsibility and obligation of a friendly intermediary may communicate such declaration another nation now apprehensive as the course
Starting point is 01:47:44 which the policy of your government may take. Are you willing to give assurance that your armed forces will not attack or invade the territory of possessions of the following independent nations? Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain and Ireland, France, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, Lechtenstein, Luxembourg, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Russia, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, the Arabia's, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, and Iran. Wow. Now, that's almost comical. well and there's at the
Starting point is 01:48:35 in the Reichstag's speech there's some footage of Hitler like reading that list down and it pans are like a gearing like laughing like laughing like in his hands you know what
Starting point is 01:48:48 but the now let's uh no I mean let's let's let's let's think about this for a minute that Roosevelt's list of countries that Germany was supposedly threatening. Let's break that down.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Finland, the first country on the list, was invaded by the Soviet Union seven months later. They were actually allied with Germany from then on. Okay. The three Baltic nations mentioned were conquered in 1940 by the Soviet Union. Later, Roosevelt accepted Stalin Corporation of the Baltic states in the U.S. S.R. Poland was assaulted by the Soviet Union and by Germany, but the Soviet Union's assault apparently did, what it didn't count. Neither Britain, France, or the U.S. did anything to counter the Soviet aggression against Poland. When the Soviets took complete control of 1994, the U.S. had no problem with it.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Hitler himself pointed out Syria and Palestine are currently occupied by your ally of the United Kingdom and you Mr. Roosevelt are working tirelessly to facilitate a Zionist conquest of Palestine thus displacing the people or indigenous to the region so why why are you telling us to what fair play for Palestine?
Starting point is 01:50:21 So I but again it's um the uh this this this earnest sharp rejoinder, because again, I think Roosevelt thought,
Starting point is 01:50:34 first of all, I think some of these guys, some of these, like, Morgenthau types, that they're actually, like, high on their own bullshit, and they actually believed that when they said, like, Hitler's an idiot, there's, like, some, there's, like, some, like, bohemian hillbilly who can't read a map. Like, they, these guys were totally outclassed. You know, it's, um,
Starting point is 01:50:53 like, I, I think, uh, I think Roosevelt really thought this was, like, befuddle Hitler or somehow, you know, resonate with people who had a less than sophisticated understanding of power politics. But it's clear, like, he didn't even, he didn't even, like, study, like, who Germany's ops were at that time and, like, who they were kind of, like, integrated with, you know, politically and diplomatically. And, you know, one of the, in the case, again, a palis and the Arab states, the,
Starting point is 01:51:22 as I made the point before, about guys like von Lears and by the propaganda ministry generally, like these guys were actually broadcasting like Arab language broadcast to try and court like the Arabs like I mean a lot of the reason why they were doing it was you know to agitate against the United Kingdom but the point is it's like it's like where the hell do you pull this list out of like I don't
Starting point is 01:51:41 but it um but like again I think uh these guys didn't um these guys didn't they were they weren't up on you know the character of Hitler and kind of what he was what his tendencies were you know so he uh
Starting point is 01:51:56 so Hitler two weeks later Hitler issued a direct rebuttal point by point and he broadcasted over the radio and even Gerald Nye again
Starting point is 01:52:19 who he said that you know the president really took it on the chin the consensus was that was that you know was that you know was that you know it's also the
Starting point is 01:52:34 this was you know the generation after you know the great white fleet you know Teddy Roosevelt had sent the U.S. Navy on its world literally its world tour you know you had you know you had America just
Starting point is 01:52:51 you know a few of your stuff went to that effort, you know, had deployed at scale to Europe, you know, to literally change the course of World War I. You know, America was engaged in Asia, you know, it was engaged in, you know, the, the banana wars. They kind of sway what remained of Iberian influence in, in Central and South America. You know, again, Germany, we're talking about it. We're talking about Germany smaller than Wyoming. You know, so this, you know, now Roosevelt's going to lecture us about, you know, like, alligrants, you know, and what
Starting point is 01:53:27 constitutes acceptable application of force in the course of a of power political ambitions and realities. You know, the, so I don't, but it's, I, I, I think this point too, because I, again,
Starting point is 01:53:49 I think John Tolan made the point. I mean, I realized Tolan, and Tolan was certainly hostile to the, the new dealer perspective. you know, I, Tolan was a true revisionist. He went where, like, the facts took him. But he wasn't, he wasn't any kind of national socialist or Hitler partisan. He was just a rebalanced, you know, scholar. But he, his take was, his take was that Roosevelt, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:19 whole challenge of Hitler was basically a publicity stunt. Obviously, it was not a serious initiative for peace. But, you know, by that time, you know, the American president, viewed kind of everything they did as a publicity stunt. You know, in contrast, Hitler, and to his credit, Mussolini, they took seriously what official statements were from, from national capitals, you know, they took, they took seriously what the American president said as a statement of policy, you know, and when Hitler, Oral Duce, you know, issued a statement
Starting point is 01:55:00 you could take that to the bank like regardless what do you think of the merit of you know what policy was within the bound of rationality of their strategic ambitions you know they weren't they weren't on publicity tours they weren't saying things to kind of you know spoof public opinion
Starting point is 01:55:18 you know and that's um that's something that's got to be acknowledged like I and like I said too like imagine even even in the 19th century or even in
Starting point is 01:55:33 uh even in arguably kind of the most uh even the most kind of populist era in Europe you know after the excess of 1848 it had been kind of quashed but yeah there's still
Starting point is 01:55:47 remained kind of the um there still there still kind of remained the sensibility of you know the the third estate having final say. It's pretty remarkable for, you know, not just a Reichs consular, but any chief executive to publicly address the legislature and say, look, here's the military situation,
Starting point is 01:56:11 here's why I give the orders I did. These are our losses. You know, these are what we need to reconstitute in order to win. You know, this is my political vision for the future. And this is my view of, you know, these men who've positioned themselves as our enemies. I mean, it's just not, that's a level of engagement and transparency that I don't really think exists. One of the reasons I like Putin, and Putin is no Adolf Hitler. I don't even particularly, I don't think it's the best man for...
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Starting point is 01:57:40 Book now at giddlestorhouse.com. Get the facts be drinkaware, visit drinkaware.com. Russia, I think, I, it's unfortunately for the Russian people who's not a better man who can rise the occasion for all kinds of reasons. What I will say about Putin, though, is that I think he is basically transparent. You know, you'd be hard for us to find a statement he's made on high politics, you know, war and peace questions. That isn't exactly what, you know, intended policy was.
Starting point is 01:58:13 So, and there's that, too. Like, I don't, there's this, I mean, there's all kinds of, like, weird mythologies about, um, about chief. chief executives of states that America's fought in these 20th century wars and their alleged bad character or whatever but there's this kind of there's this ongoing like mythology that like oh Hitler was this liar and he was always resorted like this ledger at main like it's really not true you know I mean I think um the big uh Czechoslovakia you know Munich and 38 and um Barbarosa being that was you know a sneak attack in violation of the
Starting point is 01:58:55 non-aggression pact, I guess so the kind of big points of contention for people who insist on that viewpoint. But again, I, if all treaty law is permissive, not compulsory, because it can't be,
Starting point is 01:59:14 because that's impossible. If the party to a treaty is acting in bad faith, and in the case of a non-agreting pact, he intends to attack you, and is mobilizing for that purpose, you're not under some moral obligation to wait to be assaulted. You know, I mean, that's like saying I...
Starting point is 01:59:33 That's like saying my man tends to kill me. I've got to wait until he draws on me and fires. Otherwise, I'm a bad actor for preemptively shooting him. I mean, it doesn't... This is not the way things work. And, you know, I mean, aside from that, if you take the side of the Soviet Union over Europe, I mean, regardless of the...
Starting point is 01:59:54 of the merit of um Hitler's decisions or lack thereof you've got something wrong with you you know like you you support um your own civilization right or wrong and finally in the case of um you know in the case of Czechoslovakia again it was uh it uh it was it was a there was no center there you know I mean it it it it rapidly came apart, literally, once the Sudanian land was seated to Germany. Like, there is no Czechoslovakia. It ceased to exist immediately after the inter-German border came down.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I mean, was that, like, was that, like, a crime against history, too? Like, should we insist Czechoslovakia exist? I mean, I, so there's not, you know, and that kind of surprised me, man. Because, like, honestly, it's just because people aren't particularly educated. Like, when I think about things that kind of, that kind of caused me to, like, give me pause about any positive feelings about Hitler. It's what he did to do is friends in June 1934 and things like that. You know, I mean, I, if you give you pause of a man who's willing to murder his friends for political expediency, which is what Hitler did.
Starting point is 02:01:09 I mean, it seems to me to say, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a man who wields power over the fortunes of nations. but um it's like really like your your your big um you're big um you're big and diamond of hitler's character is that chico slovakia ceased to exist and this it was mean to attack the soviet union like it doesn't it doesn't really track but um anyway it just um i thought it important to um get that out there. I want to cover the I want to cover the
Starting point is 02:01:55 the Warriors and what specifically Roosevelt's final term where his mandate was evaporating and I think Roosevelt wasn't quite in his he didn't have his family about him anymore and this resonated very much in the court of the Third Reich
Starting point is 02:02:12 and there's a reason why the July 20 plot happened when it did there's a reason why a lot of the intrigues within the Reich itself developed heads they did Stalin was making decisions looking forward to a future without Roosevelt and I mean Stalin was pretty old himself excuse me it was pretty old himself at this point okay but I'll be more clear in the next episode but on what I mean but I
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Starting point is 02:03:49 Visit drinkaware.a.e. Putting together not just an understanding of the psychology of Hitler, as warlord and as political actor, but also, you know, disabusing people of conceptual biases they have about, you know, the war declaration against the United States. It was, it was just like some brazen, crazy act, or some sort of, um, attempt at a,
Starting point is 02:04:23 some sort of attempt at a gamble, um, or something. But, yeah, that's all I got for today. All right. That was great. Let's do plugs and, uh, we'll end it. Yeah, man. Uh, you can always find me on, at Thomas 777.com.
Starting point is 02:04:42 it's number seven HMAS 777.com I'm on Twitter at the Real Thomas Capital R-EAL underscore number seven HMAS
Starting point is 02:04:59 You know Substack Real Thomas 77777 That substack.com I'm on Instagram I'm I'm going to be I'm going to do what I can in the next four weeks
Starting point is 02:05:13 to be more productive content-wise. I was traveling and my hell isn't been great so that's monkey runs some things. But I think I'm going to try and turn that around, I promise. All right. Until the next episode. Thank you, Thomas.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Yeah, man. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Cagnano show. How are you doing, Thomas? I'm doing well. Thanks for hosting me. Thank you. And I guess we'll take this time to talk about this little project that we started and just released on gum road we sat through
Starting point is 02:05:52 and watched a movie and commented on it last week. I think he did an amazing job. Let's talk a little bit about that, what you think people can get out of this. Well, like I said, people have long been requesting that there be more content relating to movies and things and uh I uh I um yeah I guess uh I guess it's kind of our version of mystery science theater 3000 what I'd like to think a little more serious commentary
Starting point is 02:06:19 but uh yeah man there's a lot you know films and important media I'm not I mean I I grew up kind of living my curiosity to the movies which I think is kind of a I mean that that's a very American kind of resume you know at least for people born before like 1980s or so, but, you know, it kind of like American cultural life exists, like, in cinema, you know, in a way that it doesn't in other mediums.
Starting point is 02:06:52 You know, I guess the Great American novel is a trope, you know, and don't get me wrong, like there's still at this day, like, you know, Americans make an impact on the literary scene, but when we're talking about kind of like America's contribution, of like, you know, the kind of like global cultural pastiche, like high, high culture and like lowest of the low, we're talking about cinema.
Starting point is 02:07:18 So I think that's important to me. And especially, you know, these days the common lament and it's well placed, you know, including the people like Martin Scorsese himself. There's not like real films being made by Hollywood.
Starting point is 02:07:34 I think that's true. But the there's something of a backlash against that, then, you know, the kind of removal of barriers to entry in the form of, you know, production tech becoming kind of democratized, for lack of a better word. You know, I mean, like, anybody can shoot a film, man, like who's got, you know, like a bare minimum of investment capital.
Starting point is 02:07:58 So, you know, I make the point, too, that guys like Nicholas Reffin and Ryan Gosling are kind of keeping filmmaking alive, you know, like basically taking a love. on these passion projects and I just know I just tweeted out you know something about Kevin Costner who I'm not any like big fan of a I think he's like a well-meaning guy but I think some of his work product is shit but he he made this big Western like epic that's like three hours long had um got the standing ovation and um one of the big film festivals I don't think it was cans but it was you know one of something in that
Starting point is 02:08:36 thing. So I maintain that film's not just something for like old people nostalgics like me or for you know kind of people with um subcultural uh interests um so I'm excited about it and feedback's been very good and like we talked about before we went alive I mean trying to think about what movie we should cover next and uh um I'm welcoming um feedback on that or you know request from
Starting point is 02:09:12 subscribers as to what they'd like to see reviewed and obviously it'd be heavy to abide that but yeah I'm excited about it man I just want to mention I threw up a page on my website free man beyond the wall.com forward slash taxi driver taxi driver is all one word
Starting point is 02:09:31 and there's a link there to the gum road episode of the video and I also put audio up because I know some people are just not going to be able to sit down and watch video. So some people are still going to want to hear the commentary. And I had one guy in a live stream yesterday to say, I know that movie so well that I could listen to your commentary and know exactly what scene you're talking about and envision in my head. So I just film, yeah, there's I, if you're like a movie person, the other films you watch, like, dozens of times over a lifetime. I mean, even,
Starting point is 02:10:08 I've been looking at since I was a kid. I realize some people think that seems weird. Like I, like years back, like a lady I knew was, like, why, you know, why do you always watch, like,
Starting point is 02:10:18 why do you watch the same movies over and over? You know, I'm like, you know, like, doesn't everybody do that? , films they like, and she's like, no, you know, I'm like, okay. I remember, I remember, like, in the 70s and 80s, it'd be those, like, coffee table books, like, Leonard Moulton's movie guide or, like, the home video guide to, like, movies,
Starting point is 02:10:44 and it'd be, like, a thousand pages, and it'd be, like, write-up. So, like, every movie you can think of from, you know, like, the 19-teens, like, later silent era, like, until, like, the then-present of, like, 1985 or whatever. I'd, like, pour over that shit for, like, hours, man. Like, I, you know, like... because I was always like a data junkie, but yeah, man. And before internet, that's also like how you found out about like film titles, man. Like, I remember Future Kill, which is a bizarre movie.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Like I found that through there. Christian F, which was like really kind of shocking, man. If you're like a kid in the 80s, you know, that was that West German movie about, you know, kids, like homeless kids, like who were strung out of heroin in like West Berlin. that's, I mean, it's point in, but, I mean, you know, stuff like that, like, I found that, do like a Leonard Mountain movie guide. And I was lucky enough in, like, greater Chicago land, there was, like, a critical mass of, like, independent video stores, even after Blockbuster kind of conquered the landscapes,
Starting point is 02:11:50 you could still find a lot of that stuff. But, yeah, it's a very good thing, man, this series, I mean. All right, so, yeah, free man beyond the wall.com, for us last taxi driver, all one word. And, well, let's get to it. Adolf Hitler's foreign policy episode three. How are you doing? Ready to go?
Starting point is 02:12:10 Yeah. You know, like I mentioned earlier on, I put a, I put a lot of premium in a lot of these sort of soft revisionist takes that have crept into the mainstream. I mean,
Starting point is 02:12:27 these things are changing. You know, I know, but biographies of historical percentages are always kind of hit or miss. I mean, even people obviously aren't nearly as controversial as Hitler, because even fairly objective historians, you know, they run the risk of interpreting events and statements and even the documentary record through kind of the lens of current affairs and things. And I mentioned before that Brendan Sims, his book,
Starting point is 02:13:06 his 2017 book, Hitler, a little biography, that's really great. I consider it to basically be on the level of John Tolan's biography in terms of its scholarly integrity. Obviously, Toland, I you know, Toland's book edges it out a bit because
Starting point is 02:13:25 Toland quite literally, you know, was able to access Hitler's then living relatives, including his sister and, you know, as well as, you know, people who'd served a Third Reich in critical capacity. who wouldn't talk to anybody else. But Sims, his book, the only other book that focuses really on Hitler's Geo-Satogenic Vision
Starting point is 02:13:54 and Hitler's view of the United States, which is absolutely key in understanding Hitler's worldview, the only other book I found that deals with that in a dedicated capacity. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person, so together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community.
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Starting point is 02:15:02 Get the facts. Be Drinkaware. Visit drinkaware.com. It's this old book from the 70s that was put out by this naval war college type called Hitler. versus Roosevelt. And kind of the focus of that book was the undeclared naval war between the United States and the Third Reich, which carried
Starting point is 02:15:21 on literally for years before the form of legislation of war. And that was an early example of a kind of revisionist text, you know, of which you find in that era, like, in kind of military science type of
Starting point is 02:15:39 type of type of books more than you would and kind of like more broad historical treatments but that was I mean that was important it was an important contribution but obviously
Starting point is 02:15:53 you know again it focused kind of more on impersonal circumstances that you know when that author's estimation kind of put Hitler and Roosevelt on a collision course I take some exception to that you know like I said I Hitler
Starting point is 02:16:10 was not unsophisticated on geostrategic reality. He's like quite the contrary. Like he really did have like a forward-looking perspective and even more than a lot of these people of aristocratic pedigree who supposedly you know, um more cosmopolitan
Starting point is 02:16:33 leanings. You know, whether they're in the UK or Germany, Hitler saw things that they didn't. And obviously, over to the brutality of the war in the East, as well as the kind of dialectical nuances of the national socialism, you know, like people, people kind of view the Soviet Union as, you know, as the mortal enemy of the German Reich first, last and always,
Starting point is 02:16:58 and in kind of total existential terms. That's the wrong way to look at it. And, you know, the degree to which Hitler himself as well as kind of any any kind of right Hegelian which basically everybody was of Hitler's generation who
Starting point is 02:17:19 had any kind of grand theory of geopolitics. They viewed the kind of tragic course of a Russo-German affairs to be something of an inevitability, almost like a phenomenon of nature. Germany's relationship to the United States was totally different
Starting point is 02:17:43 and premised a lot more on on, you know, ideological nuance that was somewhat accidental. I don't get into what I mean by that. But a point that Sims made, and I've always made, is that people need to read Hitler's second book to really understand what his perspective was. And there's a reason why, in my opinion,
Starting point is 02:18:16 Hitler, after about 1928, 29, you know, he kind of put it to the side. You know, I think, in my opinion, didn't feel that the body politic and the electorate was really ready for that kind of hard political realism. You know, and thus there are people read a kind of inconsistency in some of Hitler's public statements, particularly after 1930, you know, Kod for the second book, which I think is misguided.
Starting point is 02:18:46 They'll get into the way I think that in a minute, but by 1928, like people, people kind of misunderstand that, you know, the, the big people view kind of the National Socialist Party is like this crisis party that was only able to capitalize, you know, and breakthrough during the years when, you know, the global depression, like, really kind of hit Germany hardest. I mean, that's true and it's not. I mean, like, obviously, the punctuated breakthroughs, you know, like, happened in those years. But Hitler's overall kind of program, it wasn't just based on, quote, resentment over Versailles. I mean, the Versailles Treaty wasn't in ethical terms and in practical terms. It wasn't worth the paper.
Starting point is 02:19:40 it was written on verbally. But that wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't just a mere, like protest vote party or something. The, um, something Hitler constantly talked about in, um,
Starting point is 02:19:59 to Hess, to Gering, um, to, you know, his intimates all in sundry, as well as something he wrote about in the second book. was that the greatest, one of the biggest existential threats to Europe
Starting point is 02:20:16 was mass emigration. You know, and every time Europe was hit with a punctuated crisis, you know, basically it lost, you know, millions of people over, you know, over a century. And that's exactly what had happened in Germany. A lot of people attribute to Hitler,
Starting point is 02:20:38 they say, you know, they suggest that he borrowed the idea of a pan-y, pan Europa This idea was kind of first got public kind of attention and you know in the Vimer era like 1920 22, 1923
Starting point is 02:20:57 this this Hapsburg diplomat Count Richard Cotonhoff Calerby he was he was a son of a
Starting point is 02:21:11 of a Habsburg diplomat. He was a guy of aristocratic pedigree. He'd married a Japanese woman, which is somewhat rare. I mean, there was a lot of cultural exchange being Germany and Japan, but like a Haasburg Austrian aristocrat, like marrying a Japanese woman was kind of,
Starting point is 02:21:26 it was unusual. You know, he was, his ideas gained ground kind of as the internal situation deteriorated in Europe. up vis-a-vis the, you know, the German economy and kind of the demands of the reparations regime. He was, he was backed early on by Max Varberg, who some people believe was a, what was a site for the Rothschilds. But be as it may, I mean, whatever, Caler, I don't know
Starting point is 02:22:09 if he was Jewish or not, I think he was part Jewish by, like, Heritage. but I don't he did in fact have like a vision of Europe that with an eye to render it geostrategically competitive like he wasn't just he wasn't just some banker like looking to insinuate this kind of you know faux European ideology and what I'm on to do a kind of um you know a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a kind of a capital. to repeat, although I know a lot of his detractors than to now claim that. But be as it may, Heinrich Mann a year to have to go to 1924. He drew heavily upon
Starting point is 02:22:58 Kellardgy's writing, and he published this kind of popular, circular, calling for, you know, a United States of Europe to prevent, you know, the car from becoming an economic colony of America. Now, the key takeaway of that again, like Hitler didn't have any common talk with people like Calergy and man, but
Starting point is 02:23:17 you know, the understanding that America was really you know, if whether you were in Germany, whether you were in Japan, whether you were in China, whether you were in the Soviet Union, like your eyes were willing into America as to like the future of like your great power opponent. Okay, like that they'd agree to which this was in the minds of people can't be overstated. Okay. And they agree to which America, American power actual and potential dwarfed basically like everybody else combined like can't be overstated. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:54 And Hitler, Hitler was very, very aware of this. And honestly, too, in the political culture of Weimar, this was something people kind of took for granted. You know, like the social Democrats in 1925, 26, you know, as they were kind of trying to finesse moderate voters, you know, kind of take a strike a more kind of like nationalist posture. I mean, however, milk toast terms, you know, they were talking about, you know, the Europe needed some kind of integrated banking structure, and not just to get a handle on the reparations regime and to not, you know, be tethered to the fortune of the pound
Starting point is 02:24:42 sterling of the American dollar but you know this was this was the way forward you know anything anything else was a provincial in scope um the uh but it's also there was Hitler had a lot of admiration for the United States you know we told it before people thought it was weird when um it came out that uh that um At Eagle's Nest, you know, like Hitler had a bunch of like Coca-Cola signs and stuff, like in the parlor. Like, Hitler loved Coca-Cola. And he liked bowling. Like, he liked his favorite movie was King Kong when he was a kid.
Starting point is 02:25:28 You know, he was into Western and stuff. You know, he thought like Hollywood was awesome. I mean, he had exception to what he viewed as, you know, it's the kind of insinuation of Jewish values into the movie industry. But he was far from alone. in that take, but his idea that Hitler was some like provincial like Habsburg type who hated America is complete nonsense.
Starting point is 02:25:52 He, you know, and Germans all went to American movies. You know, like from about 1928 onward, you know, like basically, like you went to the cinema, you, we were going to see like American movies.
Starting point is 02:26:14 You know, there was a, the transatlantic flights by airship during like the brief sort of a sent to see like airships as this big you know um kind of uh um you know travel platform you know like the big push was uh to to link you know berlin with like new york you know as the ambition of me of course like turn berlin and like this kind of like world city you know this wasn't um this was very much this was very much
Starting point is 02:26:52 who like Germany were looking to emulate. They weren't looking to emulate France. They weren't looking, people weren't looking other than people who'd been like radicalized in the streets of Weimar or people who were just, you know, kind of already ideologically dedicated only to their own, you know,
Starting point is 02:27:07 kind of like philosophical commitments. Like nobody in Germany was like looking east to the Soviet Union as a model society. You know, um, they had a, they had, they looked at America with admiration. and um you know so like not a no small degree of awe and um the uh you know frederick list uh who's
Starting point is 02:27:29 considered kind of like the father of uh of german national economics you know the guy he basically premised his entire paradigm on hamiltonian economics you know like any he openly acknowledged that you know um well i mean he even spent a lot of time in the united states Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. And it's also the, you know, Hitler also, Hillary had a keen understanding of, he had no illusions about, you know, about the situation of Germany and, like, in Europe in general.
Starting point is 02:28:11 And he, I was going to do in a minute, too, like, he, now he's not only telling him some, like, chauvinistic, like, nationalist or whatever, but he, like, if anything, he, especially, He didn't say this on the campaign trail for obvious reasons. But, you know, like we talked about before, you know, this reputation of the national socialist being fixated on eugenics is misplaced because if anything, you know, America and, well, less than a degree, the Soviet Union were kind of like the hub of that sort of thinking. But, you know, Hitler believed that Europe was basically sickly, you know, spiritually, biologically,
Starting point is 02:28:47 every other way, like, contrary to the United States. And he talked about that constantly. know, like, Hillary and Goran saying, like, yeah, we're the master race, like, quite the contrary. Part of that's deliberate, like, mistranslation. Part of that's just, you know, like attributing kind of a caricature-ish view to, you know, Europeans generally and, you know, Hitler specifically. But, interestingly, you know, Hitler also, too, it went without saying, you know, that communism
Starting point is 02:29:17 was a blight and had to be eradicated. but I mean that was something that again in dialectical terms that was something that just was was taken for granted you know I mean like you're going around trying to convince communists like
Starting point is 02:29:33 you know of the that they were misguided or trying to explain to people why you know it wouldn't be good for there to be some kind of Soviet revolution in Berlin like you you know you're you would have been pissing into the wind to dedicate yourself to those sorts of endeavor
Starting point is 02:29:49 But also again, it, you know, the kind of view of communism was almost like, it was almost like it was like a mind virus or something, you know, like it was almost people who almost viewed it almost like they would like BLM, you know, today, but obviously exponentially more serious and more dangerous. Like it's not, it like goes out saying that they're your ops. Like what, what, what people like Hitler actually engaged with. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the, we're planning to upgrade the. We're planning to upgrade the. electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital and shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say online or in person so together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community. Find out more at airgrid.a.e. 4.n.n. Northwest. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive by design. They move you. Even before you drive.
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Starting point is 02:31:16 Terms and conditions apply. Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. trading as Cooper financial services is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. You know, what the real danger was, was explaining to people why, you know, Europe had to basically carve out an autonomous path or the situation at Germany and Europe in general eventually would be comparable to a bit of colony. You know, like Europe would just become a colony in the United States or the Soviet Union, you know, if the Soviets militarily were able to, you know, subsume all other
Starting point is 02:31:48 all other competing powers you know just just by you know at a point of the bayonet like figuratively and literally
Starting point is 02:31:58 um you know Hitler said during the later stages of you know the kind of campaign for the Reichstag
Starting point is 02:32:07 in 1928 for the you know for Reichstag seats I mean Hitler said he'll compare Germany to India in like the way that
Starting point is 02:32:17 you know he said that uh you know india like britain allows like these hindus like keep their princes and their kings and it doesn't it doesn't divest you know these aristocrats and in the raj of their wealth and let's a pretend have authority but in reality these guys are you know these guys are ciphers you know they're they're nobodies they're they're coolies who you know dressed up and kind of the glamour of of a sovereign court you know and um you know he said you know anybody who thinks that you know, the real truth is not that, you know, the Britain is the Lord and the Indian is the slave is diluted. You know, and he said, you know, the, you know, Hitler wasn't suggesting, you know, some kind of solidarity with kind of like, you know, the rich and oppressed of the earth or whatever. You know, but he, he was saying that, like, basically, like, this is the way, this is the way we're viewed by Europe and America, albeit for some of different reasons.
Starting point is 02:33:14 And something I'll get to do to at this point. there was real, there was, there was not, there was no level loss between the UK and America at this juncture. And as late really as the Edwardian era, the potential for America and Britain, like, going to war, especially over claims in the Pacific, it was very real possibility.
Starting point is 02:33:40 You know, so it's like the, Hitler talking about the UK and America, like having some convergence of intradiction, but also being ops actual potential. That's not some weird conceit of Hitler. That's the way everybody viewed it. Because that was the truth. You know,
Starting point is 02:33:56 that ended because Churchill destroyed his country, liquidated the empire, and literally sold it to America. I mean, like, had that not happened, it's an open-ended question. But the main, you know, Hitler, Ler came back and again and again
Starting point is 02:34:20 to what he called Anglo-Saxon capitalism Okay And he distinguished these He didn't see this was axiomatically The progeny of the Jewish political mind But he said that You know if you're talking about international finance And you're talking about the UK and America
Starting point is 02:34:40 You know There's always going to be like some aspect of Jewish power therein But um he said that that doesn't mean, like you said, even like if we removed like jewelry from the equation, that does not mean that like Wall Street in London is our friend, you know, and this will lead a lot of people to say like, oh, Hitler was just a socialist or something. Like he was, but not in the way that people are talking, like those kinds of people refer to. And, you know, for context, when a Hitler's big targets was Parker Gilbert. Um, Parker Gilbert died young. He was only in his
Starting point is 02:35:17 like early to mid-40s. But he was most known for, was being the agent general for the reparations to Germany from 1924 to about the middle of 1930. And afterwards, interestingly, he became an associate at J.P.
Starting point is 02:35:33 Morgan. You know, as we talked about before, like, if you don't understand the degree with J.P. Morgan had, I mean, J.P. Morgan was Wall Street in those days. Okay? Like, they're kind of like the Goldman Sachs of their day, all right? and the degree with J.P. Morgan was insinuated into the,
Starting point is 02:35:51 you know, kind of forcing the decision to go to war on the Wilson White House. You know, Hitler's saying, like, look, okay, like, you don't believe me, like, what's Parker Gilbert? You know, why is our economy basically the hands of this guy? You know, I mean, that can't be denied, you know. So, I mean, this was, you know, like, again, the acting like it was something, acting like, I mean, these things especially, anybody acting like it's some benign thing for, you're, your national wealth being divested by you know Wall Street and
Starting point is 02:36:20 you know kind of you know the your currency being bottomed out by the repean of a reparations regime like anybody who thinks that's some benign thing like I don't know what to tell them okay but this wasn't this wasn't this wasn't as Hitler in some like vestigial like Marxist
Starting point is 02:36:42 sympathies or something I know some people like to claim that you know, during the Vimar years, he was taken in by the KPD briefly, which is nonsense. But that's what, that's the reason why he's constantly talking about capitalists, quote-o-capitalist. And also, too, I mean, the, you know, the, the, the, the, the KPD was basically beaten by this point, and, you know, they lost the street. You know, like, there was still a threat, you know, um, And kind of the final, it wasn't until the Enabling Act incident to, you know, to the Reichstag fire, which was in fact set by a communist, you know, Van Loeb, or Lub.
Starting point is 02:37:31 But the, I mean, it wasn't until they were formally banned, as it, you know, what amounts to a terrorist organization, that they were no longer a factor. but it wasn't, you know, the political culture of Germany in 1930, like, wasn't orbiting around, like, you know, people weren't debating in Reichstag sessions, like the legitimacy of Marxism. I mean, like, this was the issue in existential terms on the table, you know, like, whether the reparations regime could be rendered benign, you know, whether some kind of, like, conflicts and independence with America, which meant essentially, you know, like, subjugating the German and. economy to that of Wall Street, is there some way out of this, or some way, like, within this paradigm, whereby, you know, Germany survives
Starting point is 02:38:20 as an autonomous political culture. Like, that's what was on the table, okay? And that's why that's why Hillary's emphasis comes back again and again, you know, the capitalism and the capitalist ethos. It's not because
Starting point is 02:38:36 he was some sort of like occulted mercist or something, or whatever people say. um the uh and you know again too like it wasn't um the uh the reparation of the regime like the dawes plan hiller was always saying that don't speak to me of constitutions and the Weimar constitution he said our three constitutions are in the Versailles treaty the Dawes plan and our car and the little colonel pact and the Dawes plan specifically you know you had uh you had Parker gilbert and his cronies intervening essentially as the French were threatening
Starting point is 02:39:16 occupation of the roar as kind of their as kind of their damically sword if they weren't paid what they believe they were owned in Italian manner you know Dawes said the Dawes basically advocated like taking the German
Starting point is 02:39:31 National Railway Company as collateral and you know I need all revenue from the tariff and tax regime essentially being put in his hands in the hands of the reparations committee which was de facto J.P. Morgan
Starting point is 02:39:49 and from there like they'd you know they'd they'd integrate these public revenues that the Berlin government was receiving and be like kind of the middleman with France you know like as they saw fit you know and this was this this was a big plan
Starting point is 02:40:08 to like dig Germany out you know was essentially allowing J.P. Morgan to loot the public coffers as they saw fit. You know, I mean, and that's, I mean, like, think about it. Like, like, Americans freak the fuck out about, you know, when they think, like when they think they're paying too much in real estate taxes, which is no small thing. I mean, I feel the burden of that, too. I mean, it's like, people like, oh, Hitler was just making a mountain out of a mole, hell about this whole Versailles thing.
Starting point is 02:40:42 It's like, you're fucking serious. You know, it's like, come on. But, um, and of course, too, like, people during Vimar, I mean, they're in the Vimar regime. They, they, uh, this had most, by, by the time of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, the breakthrough, this was mostly, they had mostly abated, but people were starving. You know what I mean? I mean, the point about horse vessel, horse vessel, you know his
Starting point is 02:41:08 coroner historians in the comments at the time claimed he was a quote unquote pimp because like his his living girlfriend was a prostitute like you don't know why she was a prostitute like a lot of women in Vibevar became prostitutes because they were starving I mean like that's
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Starting point is 02:42:52 But, like, categorically, where something like prostitution becomes normal, because no one has anything to eat. So, like, we can't even imagine that. I mean, that's, that's where people are coming from here. and um you know that's uh that's what owes to the kind of uh you know the kind of focus of the um the national socialist paradigm but it's also um the problem with the national socialist party even into like 1928 2930 i mean really this is outside of scope but i remember we really underlay the 1934 incident, you know, the the Romfouche. I mean, there's a lot of intrigues there, but I mean,
Starting point is 02:43:39 the kind of the overarching impetus was the need to eradicate, you know, divisions in the party just, you know, by a final and violent executive decision. The Germany's fatal, the fatal flaw in the German flagged culture with these fractures um you know foreign policy was still highly disputed Rosenberg and um you know the almost of the Baltic German faction within the party as well as a lot of the Prussian military element they were insisting that the Soviet Union was you know was a what was the ideological letamy like everything else
Starting point is 02:44:22 was secondary um obviously the Strassers as well as Gerbils himself interestingly if the Soviet Union is like a key, but it's anial ally against Anglo-America, the South Tyrol issue. And obviously, you know, Hitler courting Mussolini, you know, this, and ultimately South Tyrol was, was seated in its entirety to the kingdom of Italy. You know, this big, this was like a sore point for a lot of German racialists, you know, like Hitler's selling out our people. You know, he's for the sake of, you know, someone of a geotrategic vision that may not. come to fruition um you know the uh and this uh you know this was not this was not workable and um despite uh despite the fact that people always talking about like america especially in this era and um in the preceding epoch you know the world war one era as being like oh in america you know we
Starting point is 02:45:28 we debate all possibilities like this that's that's total bullshit you know like when a policy gores to decide in war in peace terms or economic terms like America just does it like after the war between the states like that kind of discussion just like ended that was all done
Starting point is 02:45:42 okay um and this is one of this is one of the big reasons for the fewer princim it's not because like Hitler was some control freak or he just thought it was really great to to play
Starting point is 02:45:56 um leader or something. You know, the early on his career, he treated these like the various separatist types, you know, these various these various regional parties all in sundry,
Starting point is 02:46:13 you know, who kind of wanted to sabotage any kind of centralized government in Berlin. You know, he treated these people as much as as as as big enemies as the communist because, again, they, these, um, like these people are kind of like fools today, like in the old East block,
Starting point is 02:46:29 where, like, you know, hold themselves out. It's like, yeah, I'm like Ukrainian nationalist. It's like, your ass is literally owned by Wall Street. But, like, as long as you get to, like, go around, like, weaving, like, a little flag and pretending, like, you know, you're some kind of sovereign, like, micro-state. Like, you're, you know, you think you're, like a fucking pigging shit. But the, um, you know, and, uh,
Starting point is 02:46:55 it was right around this time, like, around 1928, that's when Hitler began writing the second book. And for about 18 months subsequent, after the election cycle 1928, he worked on it pretty consistently. You know, it's, and again, the overarching theme of the second book is the overwhelming power of Angle, America,
Starting point is 02:47:25 and especially the United States. the theme was in M. Kopp, but my Kopp's a totally even kind of book. Again, Mike Kopp is an election season appeal. The second book is quite literally like Hitler's geostrategic vision and is like,
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Starting point is 02:49:00 that it threatens to overthrow all previous state power rankings. He said there's probably a question of literal space, you know, gross rom. He made the point that Aboriginal elements, you know, like Native Americans, if you will, obviously they were both divided, you know, by tribe, language, ethnos, as well as being relatively thin on the ground compared to the size of the continent.
Starting point is 02:49:28 So there were easy pickings for you know, a conquering population animated by, you know, kind of an almost theological imperative of a man of his destiny. And also
Starting point is 02:49:46 the relationship between the population size and the territorial extent is just like awesome. Like literally, it's just massive. you know like heller wrote that this is like inconceivable the europeans you know especially because i mean again like europe's an indifurop's a tiny peninsula really um it's got no it's impossible to defend it in depth you know um it's got uh you know no no natural barriers
Starting point is 02:50:16 between itself and you know the other in the east you know it's um like america's if you're gonna if you're gonna draw sort of a perfect geostrategic situation for a people, like you basically draw the United States of America. You know, like assuming, um, assuming their ops in terms of a ability to project power are where, you know, the, the British and the Spanish were respectively when, you know, America fought them off and essentially kicked them out of the, the new world. But, uh, you know, it's, um, there's nothing, there's nothing comparable to, to it in history. And again, Hitler was correct as assessment.
Starting point is 02:50:59 He said the United States had, as of the time of, you know, as of the world of 1928, 9030, probably 50% of the available natural resources of this planet. You know, its industry not only had, you know, what was not only the envy of the world and it captured, you know, markets on every cost. even by the 1920s, but even if all that went away, like even an event of some total emergency, you know, if America could only had only to rely on its domestic market, like, it could still survive
Starting point is 02:51:38 and arguably thrive. You know, like the, like America's internal market was, was, uh, what was greater than the British Empire's, like an entirety of capital. And like that's, that's totally insane, you know. Um, and Hitler made the point again and again in my conf, or not in the second book that like European statesmen like don't understand this. And Hitler then talked about England and America and Germany and race. And interestingly again, he had a pretty unflattering diagnosis of his own people. Hitler said that basically the greatest people whoever lived are the Anglo-Saxons.
Starting point is 02:52:24 He said that the Anglo-Saxons were truly like the master. race, the world's like master race, the era in which we live. Like anybody alive and then present. Okay. He said the key to British power was that you had this like critical racial value of Anglo-Saxonum
Starting point is 02:52:42 that was able to conquer the political culture in Britain entirely and then perpetuate itself and kind of develop it developed this like rigid cast-based society where the leadership cast was uh it viewed its it's like whole raison d'etra as um you know being like lordship over this enterprise that
Starting point is 02:53:11 they had created that they believed it had been like you know conferred upon them by providence um Hitler said that because of this sort of cultural indoctrination over time and this kind of like unwavering, like, mastercast will even in themselves. He said that, uh, he said that one in was basically able to colonize, you know, this entire planet.
Starting point is 02:53:36 And meanwhile, like, their leadership cadres, like, who never saw, like, the motherland again, like maintained, like, nevertheless their link to, like, a post culture and, like, to the Angles, Saxon race, which is absolutely true. Um, it, uh, Hitler said, you know,
Starting point is 02:53:55 this is why, you know, the Anglesaxon he's like totally outclassed as like the German of 1930. Okay. He said the other... He said the reason the United States is so dangerous is because he said, well, you know, he's like... The United States said in the core of this Anglesaxon population that was just referenced. Like when these people saw the like endless horizon of the new world, like they realized that they could quite literally like invent a new world in their own image
Starting point is 02:54:27 and they no longer had to take a knee before anybody you know and he said that the mass influx of immigration of immigration from Germany which by from from
Starting point is 02:54:44 the treaty was failure until Hitler was writing amounted to about six million people and Hitler said like this was the cream of the crop of like European the year of like of European people you know he's like so in America he's like you have he's like you have this like core of Anglesaxon leadership like utterly ruthless utterly committed to its own posterity um like utterly insatiable and his desire to like dominate the planet he's like and like the mentioned material they presided over were basically like millions
Starting point is 02:55:15 of the best of like you know central Europe and Germany you know who realized like only diminishing fortunes like on the continent. You know, in those days, immigrating to America was, you were like taking your life into your own hands. It was the opposite of today where it's like, you know, the world empties out to its jails and sends them to America. You know, like, if you had, like,
Starting point is 02:55:36 like, you could become rich beyond your wildest dreams in America, but you also might, you also might die, you know, and like at a, it, uh, you, you had to have a tremendous, um, even, I mean, just surviving the journey over here. You know, I mean, like,
Starting point is 02:55:51 was an ordeal. He said basically, like, the people when he'd get up and go, like, got up and went. He's, like, the best of, like, the white race, like, lives in America. He's like, you can't dispute that. He's like, yeah, he's like, American culture might be vulgar. He's like, you know, there might
Starting point is 02:56:07 be, like, deformities within it. He's like, it might suffer from the absence of, you know, like, like, cultural patrons. But he's like, you can't say that they're not, like, the master race because they are. He's like, they're the best racial material. and he's like
Starting point is 02:56:22 you know they and he's like he's like he's like the Americans are self aware of this he's like that's like Hitler's writing right
Starting point is 02:56:30 with the 1925 Immigration Act and he made the point he's like he's like America's entire he's like he's like America is continuing
Starting point is 02:56:37 to like siphon all up like the best of Europe he's like well privileging you know Scandinavians and Germans and you know in English
Starting point is 02:56:45 you know and he's like limiting the number of sloths and Latin's and basically excluding like Japanese and Chinese from immigrating
Starting point is 02:56:51 because they view them as like their probable adversaries, you know, in a kind of great game of of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, I mean, all this stuff is true. And that is the way the Americans viewed themselves, you know, like this.
Starting point is 02:57:05 And, um, for context, like, Hitler literally fought the American infantry, you know, like, as, uh, like he was saying, like he, like he, I mean, it's something, it's been said that, like, if you know a race of people,
Starting point is 02:57:21 like there's no way to know them more intimately than if you like had sex with them or killed them okay and there's something to that I wouldn't characterize it that way but it it's not wrong you know like the idea like hiller was some bumpkin it's like well apparently he wasn't man and he fought uh he fought he literally fought the u.s army um you know after uh you know after having face down the british and the french and like what he wrote about in his later years was how the American army was tough as nails and and were these incredibly robust
Starting point is 02:57:57 like hard people who were like the sons who left us centuries before you know like grown like bigger and stronger and faster and smarter than we are you know and it was devastating you know what I mean that's he didn't he didn't say something like that about the Tommy's
Starting point is 02:58:14 he didn't say anything like that with the French he was talking about the Americans you know um do you think this is why so many people want to claim that the book is a forgery because they've basically bought into this romantic notion of the Prussian people at the time and the Prussian people being the cream of the crop as far as genetics goes and then that Hitler would,
Starting point is 02:58:46 they're putting words in Hitler's mouth so that it would, it makes it look like Hitler doesn't really like the German people that much. I mean, that's what it sounds. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid
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Starting point is 03:00:01 But it's all of it, too. It's like, some of these people are just guys who claim everything, like literally everything is fake. Like, remember what it is? They claim it's fake. Like, these are the guys who think that, like, um... Like, Joe Biden is, is like, a hologram. We never landed on the moon.
Starting point is 03:00:15 like if you tell him like you eat cornflakes like bro cornflakes like matter to people man you don't believe that bro you're like brainwash bro like the second book's a fake like Hitler was fake Hitler was like this Jewish gay guy like he was fake bro
Starting point is 03:00:28 I mean I think it's part of it's just like that but part of it yeah like people at the point before that a lot of these guys who claim to be like national socialist or like or like to like I guess like to troll people by like wearing a swastika when they really know what it means
Starting point is 03:00:45 they got this like, they got this like cartoon idea of Hitler is basically what like the war department of like 1941 said he was. They just like claim that's cool, not that that's bad. So I mean, yeah, I think part of us that these fools, like they want to pretend Hitler was like this Darth Vader type figure like who as alleged and not actually like a thoughtful person with like a critical view of his own kind and stuff. But it, you know, but it's also, um, but it's also, you know, Hitler, came from the Hathbury Empire, like the frontier of it. The Hapsbury Empire was a fucking mess. I mean, it's fascinating.
Starting point is 03:01:21 If I had a time machine, like I said, I'd want to go back, among other places, the Vienna in like 1910 to check it out because, like, that kind of decadent, baroque architecture is just, like, really cool. And, like, there's, like, very cool things about it. But, you know, it's like something out of, like, a fairy tale or something. But it's a whole, it was totally dysfunctional. You know, like, you can't, I mean, and that was really kind of the, that was kind of the prime, the distilled.
Starting point is 03:01:45 essence of like decadent, like dysfunctional, like 20th century Europe. You know, so Hitler's like, this is what our problem is. You know, and there's a reason why he like refused to be drafted by the Hasbrook army and went and joined the German army. That wasn't like an accident. You know, like, and it wasn't because like, oh, Hitler was such a big racist. It's like, no. Someone said that being allowed.
Starting point is 03:02:08 Someone claimed, can you answer this? Someone claimed that the only reason you think the second book is authentic, is because you're taking the word of Gerhard Weinberg and Gerhard Weinberg also said David Hogan was full of shit. So is that true too? I mean, various people like saw the second book. He talked to Hess about the second book. He discussed its contents with Ribbentrop with Gerbils.
Starting point is 03:02:35 He openly discussed on the campaign trail in 28. I view myself as a writer and I'm writing my second book. Like what? I mean, what, what, what's the evidence that it's a fake other than that like guys in the internet say it's fake? I mean, like, I don't like what. I don't think it's fake. I have no reason to think that it is.
Starting point is 03:02:58 Like why? It's romanticism. It's there. It destroys some kind of romantic notion that they have. Apparently, yeah, yeah. It's, uh, but yeah. It, um, I realize we're coming up on, uh, the hour, so I'll
Starting point is 03:03:14 I'll wrap up soon, but it... And it's also, too, like the... You know, conspicuously absent, and I make this point just because, like, court history is so like, demented on this point. You know, you wonder one thing Hitler does not mention at all. And the second book is, like, black people
Starting point is 03:03:34 and America's, like, racial situation. He just, like, has no interest in it. Like, he did say that... The only time he ever spoke about, like, slavery in America... was he said, quote, like, transplanting, transplanting of millions of African Negroes, the American continent as an example of a quote, barbarian custom, you know,
Starting point is 03:03:50 because he said, I mean, but that was like the view of like a lot of people. Like this, like, um, you know, uh, but he didn't, this idea like Hitler was sitting around, like, hating on black people or like obsessed with, like, race, like in that regard. Like he, that's totally, that's literally retarded. But it, um, you know,
Starting point is 03:04:09 and if anything, too, like the, the, the traditional understanding, is that, you know, like, the Germans, like, sympathize with, like, the North and kind of, like, the Union, like, national economic paradigm. You know, Hamiltonian economics and all of that. Like, the idea that they were, like, Neo-Confederates is, like, literally demented. But, you know, he, and, like, most importantly, I think, too, not, like, Hitler spoke in the table talk, you'll glean this as well as other place. And according to the second book, like Hitler talked about the American dream. Like now, he didn't use those words.
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Starting point is 03:05:57 The American simply lives on average better than we do. You know, and he made the point, that's why he emphasized motorization so much saying like every German is going to like have an automobile like a family car. Like Stalin famously said that like, oh, this, this film of like American workers like driving is, this is all propaganda. That's not possible. You know, because like it seemed like science fiction to people in the old world. You know, and Hitler is like, you know, we got a like basically like we've got to, we're going to have an auto bond.
Starting point is 03:06:32 Like we're going to have, you know, a continent. We're going to have our own manifest destiny in the east. you're like we're going to have a space program Berlin is going to be you know like a capital of the world you know like he his competitor was America you know
Starting point is 03:06:49 it's um but this I mean granted it's like it wasn't unqualified you know like he he talked about the part of a new culture of America that was
Starting point is 03:07:01 uh and he uh famously like he he mentioned one time like some some like Robert Barberin type had mocked up like a faux palace of Versailles
Starting point is 03:07:13 as like his house and I think like Life magazine like exhibited it like this was really cool Hitler's like you know this is this is this is you know
Starting point is 03:07:22 this is bullshit you know but uh you know this idea that and he said too like a lot you said America had some great things that came out of Hollywood and some great music but also had some like decadent bullshit you know what he called race music
Starting point is 03:07:37 I mean that's what people call it then But this idea that, like, you just had contempt for America, or was, like, it is totally asinine. You know, and, um, the, uh, you know, and it's, and I mean, at the end of the day, too, like, I, again, like, even the, uh, Germany's geo-traategic exposed, oh, and interestingly, too, like, you know, and I mean, Hitler said, uh, it was, Europe's literally impossible to defend in depth.
Starting point is 03:08:10 Even if the 1914 border was restored, it wouldn't matter. And, you know, he said, where Germany is both surrounded, completely hemmed in. You know, he said, moreover, in the age of the airplane, you know, he said, like, any German population center can be struck in a matter of hours. You know what I mean? Like, it's, like, again, like, this idea that, like, Americans just don't understand this.
Starting point is 03:08:34 Like, I realize that when people, when this, like, the Zionist war against Russia, commenced in 2022. Like, girls with the politics, like, like, like allowing standoff weapons
Starting point is 03:08:47 to be based, like, 200 miles from your capital, like, that's not an act of war. That's not like an existential threat to your existence. You know, it's like,
Starting point is 03:08:56 I, I don't think people understand, like, I think people think that, like, everyone else on this planet is, like, some version of America.
Starting point is 03:09:02 It's like the size of a continent, you know, like any, you know, any, any military enemies you have are basically, you know,
Starting point is 03:09:10 like, a thousand miles away at minimum I don't think they as the crow flies in 1998 like the border of Czechos the border of Czechoslovakia was now the Czech Republic
Starting point is 03:09:25 to Berlin I mean it's like it's less than two hours like by car if I'm not mistaken you know it's like this idea that like oh you know allowing allowing a you know
Starting point is 03:09:39 allowing a French to base or whatever aircraft after they can devise, you know, an hour or so from our capital. Like, that's no problem. You know, we'd be war mongers if we objected to that. Like, I, it's completely, it's completely insane. But, um, I, uh, you know, that's, uh, and that's also, too, like something I, uh, and Simms makes this point too. One of the, uh, one of the, one of the reasons for the, at least in the Hitler's case,
Starting point is 03:10:20 is his personal perspective. One of the reasons for the brutality in the East, the Ostfront, obviously it's the ideological challenge of communism, which just had to be eradicated in the estimation of the national socialist culture. The fact that the Soviet Union declared it didn't honor any, you know, any laws and convention to customs of war, it only abided its own revolutionary imperatives but also um you know the the contiguous continental space germany needed i mean that it wasn't that germany hated like quote hated slavs but the nazis hated
Starting point is 03:11:04 slavs categorically air grid operator of ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest we're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online, or in person. So together, we can create a more reliable, sustainable
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Starting point is 03:11:53 hitler's words could come to pass in russia like it wouldn't be off the table for some kind of alliance with the russians in the future but that's not where we're at now and right now we're facing oblivion i mean that was really the that was really the what underlay the kind of like rass and creek in the east more than anything it's not we hate slavs and let's annihilate them because we hate them. And I was glad that Sims made that point. They're not going to be wrong. There were, especially among the ranks of Baltic Germans, people like Rosenberg
Starting point is 03:12:22 and Prussians who had been like marinated in kind of the culture of Rassan Krieg. I mean, because like they, that's what their people were steeped in for centuries. They did hate Russians and I'm sure they viewed them as subhuman. But it's generally like that wasn't, you know,
Starting point is 03:12:40 that wasn't like some, There was some grand racial theory of why the Slavs are subhuman or something. But that's, yeah, we're coming up on the hour. I think, I think, I think, I think we'll call it. Is this said on the subject or do you, or do you? Yeah, we can do. I think a concluding episode might be good, but because I still have some order to stay, but I don't want to, I don't want to tell you your business in terms of. No, no problem. Yeah, I think wrapping this up, uh, one to wrap this up would be great.
Starting point is 03:13:14 do some plugs and we'll end it. Yeah, man. You can find me at Thomas 7777.com It's number 7. HMAS 777.com. I'm on Instagram.
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Starting point is 03:13:44 out for that. I'll like shout that out when there's like more stuff on it. But the main place to find me and find my podcast is Substack. It's Real Thomas 777.7.7.com. You know what I mean? Like Sika, you shall find. Appreciate it. Until the next time. Thank you. Yeah, likewise, man. I want to welcome everyone back to the Peking Yon-A show. Hey, Thomas. How are you doing? I'm doing well. I realize I kind of look like a hobo. I'm getting over a really severe flare up. So I,
Starting point is 03:14:15 I'm not 100%. So that's what's going on. I didn't, I didn't just like sleep in my clothes last night and then like drag myself off my computer, even if it looks that way. So forgive me for that. Well, yeah, if we,
Starting point is 03:14:32 since this is a wrap-up show, if it needs to be a little bit shorter, that's fine. I think I'll be okay. Yeah, why don't, okay. How do you want to finish up this? I wanted to do, a retrospective on Hitler's character a bit because the main biographies of Hitler that are accepted by court
Starting point is 03:14:52 historians are Ian Kirshaw, Alan Bullock, Yakum Fest, and John Toland. Although Toland increasingly, I mean, he's been dead for many years, but increasingly he's no longer considered part of the canon because he you know people who want to finesse their ideological prejudice would say like oh he humanizes Hitler or he minimizes
Starting point is 03:15:18 the severity of you know purported you know fascist evil and things but if you're going to deal with Hitler in any meaningful capacity you kind of have to you kind of have to
Starting point is 03:15:34 you have to rebut those allegations and those kinds of speeches claims but you know if you're dealing with any tyrant or any
Starting point is 03:15:49 warlord or any or any great leader you've got to you've got to both identify his analogs and you've also got to identify what sort of psychological processes particularly symbolic psychological processes
Starting point is 03:16:07 animated him in his vision. Okay. And this is controversial, even for people supposedly on the right, like I read this, I've been reading a lot of Hitler biographies lately, only to my manuscripts. I'm writing too many scripts. I'm working on Steel Storm, but I'm writing this Nuremberg book, and I realize that character evidence of the equivalent
Starting point is 03:16:36 isn't just positive of anything. It's not even formally admissible, but so much of the Nuremberg indictment kind of orbited around what supposedly was in the mind of the furor as like the seminal command authority that's something's got to be addressed. So, you know, it's just kind of refreshing, my recollection, you know, kind of on what,
Starting point is 03:17:01 on what the primary claims are. And, um, Russell Stolphy's book, which is a, splendid rebuttal that I was reading this really good review by this guy who I think periodically writes for countercurrents and I got like halfway through it and then he
Starting point is 03:17:17 and he starts shrieking about how awful it is that Stolfi claimed that Muhammad was an analog to Hitler. I mean apparently because this guy has got some like cultureized prejudice against Muslims or something. That's a completely fucking idiotic. They're like people still think that way
Starting point is 03:17:33 or that they essentially just kind of apply those same conceptual biases. It's just, you know, kind of with reverse colors to the historical analysis. And plus, like, Muhammad was a great man. You know, like they can't, he wasn't, he wasn't what his believers think that he was. But, and it's not some slamming Muslims either. You know, they worship the same God I do, however incomplete their interpretation is. But saying, like, Muhammad wasn't one of the greatest men ever lived.
Starting point is 03:18:03 It was like saying Julius Caesar was a second raider. It's just idiotic. but um moving on from the kind of tangential complaint um I believe and even if I didn't
Starting point is 03:18:17 um what historians claim which makes sense even if they weren't dealing with a figure as kind of monumental and controversial as Hitler you know like the man Hitler became
Starting point is 03:18:30 was kind of that kind of character trajectory was set when he was about 18 years old, which is generally the case, especially for males, I think, like when I kind of develop their sort of visionary ambitions. But, you know, that was right when Hitler's mother died. And that's also when he, you know, suffered his first major disappointment when he applied to the Vienna School of Fine Arts, and which Hitler was not rejected for being, quote, terrible artist. He was told that he was a great architect, but that, you know, he obviously
Starting point is 03:19:07 that for his skill set lay so that, you know, he was accepted into the architecture program and told that, you know, fine arts were not really his forte. And, um, a, uh, not having attended a real school and not having the credentials to pursue that alternate track, um, you know, we that basically cut off that career trajectory um unless he was able to find somebody to kind of act as a patron in a strange city that wasn't very likely but the um one of the things that's claimed about Hitler is that oh well you know Hitler had this un uh had this unhealthy relationship with his mother and then and then this kind of things like steeped and like Freudian nonsense obviously these kinds of claims, but that also that Dr. Block, who
Starting point is 03:20:00 was an oncologist who treated Hitler's mom, that, oh, Hitler obviously came to hate Jews, because Block was a Jew and just blamed him for the death of his mother. That's not at all true, and Hitler actually thought really highly a Dr. Block. In a rebuttal to that kind of off-repeated claim, Block said to Collier's magazine during the war, he said, I'm probably like the most privileged Jew.
Starting point is 03:20:27 like you'll find in Germany or Austria today. I don't believe that's an accident. And when Hitler told me that he owed me a great debt of honor for caring for his mother, apparently he was sincere. Okay? That's straight from the horse's mouth. But
Starting point is 03:20:43 I do believe Hitler's upbringing was very strange. You know, Hitler's father, Alois, he kind of exemplified what was wrong with the Hathbury Empire. And something Tolan says, which I think not off base is that um you know Hitler alois was a tyrant he was just kind of a mean guy he beat his family especially Hitler's older brother alois junior alice junior was Hitler's half
Starting point is 03:21:10 brother and his father terrorized him and you know um alois ran away from home at 14 and never came home which speaks for itself but um you know uh after alois ran away Hitler was kind of the of his dad's, you know, kind of bullying. And his dad was a, Hitler wasn't poor, despite what some people claim either. Like, the family was solidly middle class. Hitler's father was, he joined the border guards or the custom service. Air grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest.
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Starting point is 03:22:22 immigration and customs enforcement. So he's basically a cop. You know, he joined this. he joined up at 18, retired at 58, you know, so he had this like solid pension and he was, you know, he had a lot of, he had a lot of clout, like, within that institution. And, you know, like, Hitler viewed him as this kind of like, is this kind of like crude ignoramus who had sort of like a reverence for authority for its own sake, you know, um, in those days we'll get into this, it was actually illegal to sing the German national
Starting point is 03:22:59 national anthem. It was illegal to display images of Bismarck and other like patriotic iconography. You know, the, um, we talk about a nationalities problem in, in the Soviet Union. Like the Habsburg Empire had the worst nationalities problem like ever seen. Okay. So, um, it was just kind of like authoritarian bureaucracy that was aiming at suppressing like everybody's, um, you know, kind of nationalist or self-consciously, like ethnic, healing. You know, so in Hitler's mind, from very early on, Hitler was self-consciously German, which makes a lot of sense. You know, this kid who lived on the frontier of the Hasbrook Empire, you know, basically, you know, as a minority around a, you know, around a bunch of other minorities.
Starting point is 03:23:48 But it's, um, I don't think it's off base to suggest that one of the reasons Hitler came to hate the Hasbro regime, like not the emperor himself, like he, or anything like that, but there's like you know, the regime that propped it up. He identified that with his dad. He really was just like a bully. You know, and, um, Hitler's dad died, you know, when Hitler was 13 years old. He just had, like, a mansup heart attack. You know, on the one hand, uh,
Starting point is 03:24:14 on the one hand, that kind of freed the family from his, from his brutish tyranny. But, you know, um, he, the family got a pretty, they didn't fall into punery or anything because they had, like, a decent pension. But Hitler's older brother had run away years before. Hitler's four younger siblings of Hitler's had died. You know, Hitler's mom, even before she got cancer, was kind of unwell.
Starting point is 03:24:43 You know, Hitler was like the man of the house at 13 years old. You know, it's not, that it was not an easy thing, you know. So this idea, too, that Hitler was just kind of like layabout, like idiot or something, who, you know, just you know, had an act to grind with his daddy and wasn't doing anything in his kind of care for his adolescence as regards, you know,
Starting point is 03:25:08 real responsibility. Like, that's nonsense too. But what's fascinating to me is that some of these formative things, like not just fascinations, but conceptual, um, but by the conceptual fixations
Starting point is 03:25:29 like emerged like around this time. Like before after Al Lewis senior had retired he bought this like gentleman's farm you know he was trying to live this like kind of country squire life or something and like the farm failed
Starting point is 03:25:45 because you know Al-Ois didn't know what he was doing and he actually was Al-Ois actually was kind of drunkly about you know like when he wasn't you know doing his border guard you know policeman thing but the um
Starting point is 03:25:59 after after that the family moved to this apartment house that was right across from this Benedictine monastery and the school year of 1897 1898
Starting point is 03:26:17 Hitler the path he walked the school went it went through this gate abutting the Benedictine premises specifically the monastery and there's a stone arch in the center of it
Starting point is 03:26:41 and like very prominently was carved in the monastery's coat of arms like a swastika which I don't think that's accidental that you know that and that's why I raised the people who say like no Hitler was signaling to these people in the tool society that
Starting point is 03:26:56 you know he he was some of a culted pagan And like, no, no, no, no, that's not the case. Swazquez were ubiquitous and in medieval and Gothic, freezes and things. And the kind of gothic, the kind of mini Gothic revival, you know, that was emergent, you know, really for a few decades, you know, from about like the 1870s or 80s. I'm not at all like an architectural historian or anything. But, you know, approximately around the time when, you know, like Hitler was coming up, that that kind of thing was still prominent, particularly in some of the kind of suburbs and excerpts of Central Europe, from these, you know, from these, um, Baroque cities, of course, like Vienna. But, um, it's, um, and interestingly, um, Helene Hofschvangel, who is Putsi Hofstengel's wife. I mean, obviously, um, and Hofstangels. Osstangel was kind of a buffoon and he became very much on the outs with Hitler and even
Starting point is 03:28:05 even when he was even when he was in the good graces of the kind of core of the of the National Socialist Party he never really got any respect but his wife kind of before Magda Gerbils became Hitler's like top of not and arguably kind of like de facto first lady the third rike like helene hofsnagel kind of filled that role and Hitler told her that you know during this time he um he considered becoming a priest you know because he's like this is this is like a higher calling for you know that's it's not it's not sullied by you know these guys like worldly things that you know um i don't want any part of and you can you know you can surround yourself with art you know but do it in a way that you know um
Starting point is 03:29:01 you know, people can index with, you know, in their worship and things. Like, it's very interesting because that's the only kind of, despite a lot of fake quotes and a lot of speculation, like Hitler never said bad things about Catholicism. Like he just didn't, but you never said anything particularly praising of it either. Let me ask you a question. During the Strasser debates, does he refer to himself as an atheist? No.
Starting point is 03:29:27 Okay. No, and that's why, um, most, uh, notably in the December 11th speech, he mentions Providence or God over half a dozen times. And I mean, it's a constant, um, it's a constant, uh, motif, you know, um, but that's, um, well, that's, that's a, that's a discussion for another time, because there's, a lot there, but no, he, that's, that, that's absolutely asinine. What people do is they take, they take, they take, they take, either, like, totally confabulated quotes from gurbos or something, they're just, like, made up, or they take actual quotes on some buffoon, like, Borman, like, you know, mouthing off on much he hates the Catholics and saying,
Starting point is 03:30:18 like, see, like, you know, the Nazis were seat, worshipping Jews, wanted to burn all the churches. You know, like, Bormon said so when he was, like, three sheets to the wind and talking shit, you know, like, um, but the um you know it uh the um there was something uh you know even in um even in a place kind of like it's cultured as like hasburg austria you know i don't mean like culture necessarily in consa poland terms though it was that too but you know there was there was this kind of like deep reverence for the arts and things you know like just saying um when when hitler was asked other than this kind of brief dalliance with the with the idea of becoming a priest you know
Starting point is 03:31:09 Hitler, when he was asked what he was going to be, like, what his career was going to be, he'd always say, like, I'm going to be a great artist. And the adults would be like, well, you know, you have to have a proper profession, you know, like, it, uh, you know, so it's not, it's not as if he, these, these were, like, flights of fancy that, you know, were encouraged by some, like, doting mother who's just out of it, you know, like,
Starting point is 03:31:28 like, not even remotely, but it, um, the, um, it was around, uh, it was around this time, too, Hitler realized he could draw. he uh from the time um you know he's about up in our system like fifth or sixth grade age you know like 11 or 12 years old um he'd start uh surreptitiously sketching um one of his school chums named wineberger the vineberger you know he relayed um that uh he watched over several days as hitler like you know you know, in class when they were listening to some lesson or another, Hitler, he recreated from memory the castle at Schaumburg and just like sketched it out.
Starting point is 03:32:22 You know, um, any early on in life, like other kids looked at him as a leader. You know, um, what's fascinating to me, too, was that his favorite stuff to read was, uh, stories by James Fenimore Cooper and kind of his German, his German imitator or kind of counterpart was Carl May who also wrote Western stories but uh you know the kind of the the Cowboys and Indians you know kind of genre like came from James Fenimore Cooper
Starting point is 03:32:59 you know like Hitler's a kid actually taught himself to throw a lasso which I think is hilarious but um he'd uh his uh like those who remembered him you know, this was multiple people
Starting point is 03:33:18 said that Hitler always wanted to play cowboys and Indians, you know, um, and, you know, he talked about America as this kind of, like, wild a place,
Starting point is 03:33:28 but also this kind of, like, like, the land of odds of, like, you know, infinite power, infinite wealth,
Starting point is 03:33:35 but also like wild people and, you know, like warriors and like, you know, um, it's, I find that, I find that fascinating,
Starting point is 03:33:43 you know, know, it's like, this like little Austrian kid. Like, that's what he's getting into. But, um, according to Hitler, he said, and, um, and then this tracks, um, by what is, um, sister Paula told him,
Starting point is 03:34:00 um, Toland, as well as other, uh, as well as other, um, witness testimony, which I have no reason to think is incredible. Um, Hitler, uh, he became, fixated on these two, like, historical mega,
Starting point is 03:34:17 that were dedicated to the Franco-Prussian War, which obviously was loomed hugely in the minds of Germans. You know, I mean, that was their great victory, you know, like, and the kind of, the kind of finest hour of Prussian arms. But it's also, you know, Europe in the 19th century, like, didn't go to war, really. You know what I mean? There was the Franco-Prussian war. There was the Crimean War.
Starting point is 03:34:46 you know but after waterloo like there wasn't there wasn't any um there weren't like major engagements you know that that that involved you know have a dozen countries and millions of men you know that's why that's why so many european mercenaries ended up you know fighting the war between the states because that's where the action was you know it um and hitler uh he became he's stated by his own testimony that the Boer War was
Starting point is 03:35:24 you know what really imbued him with like self-conscious patriotism as well as you know as well as his understanding that like you weren't German you know which is fascinating and um that like we talked about in a World War I series the degree to which
Starting point is 03:35:41 the Germans felt a deeply a deep affinity for the like they can't be like overstated you know um it uh it was also his um he was about this age too when uh his his younger brother edmund died of measles and that was the fourth death of one of the hitler children um so hitler was the only remaining son okay um alois was you know was hitler's half brother but he was like long gone anyway. His family didn't even know if he was dead or alive. You know, um, the, uh, this is when, um, this is when, uh, Hitler was kind of forced to grow up, in my opinion, you know, and then shortly thereafter, you know, Alouis Sr. died. But, um, before he did, um, just a couple
Starting point is 03:36:44 years previously, um, Hitler reached the age where he's eligible to attend either. gymnasium or a real school. And his practical minded father was, you know, thought of gymnasium was a waste of time. You know, and for those who don't know, like in those days, I've known to the European systems like now, but in those days, you know, gymnasium
Starting point is 03:37:06 would prepare people for, you know, classical education and what was then the university curriculum, you know, a real school was, um, it was like, you know, a technical and scientific academy. Okay. Um, and the nearest real stool
Starting point is 03:37:25 was located in Linz. So Hitler set off for Linz when he was when he was like a little kid you know he'd pack a rucksack on his back
Starting point is 03:37:45 he'd quite literally walk for three hours you know and sometimes he'd stay over at night or through the weekend you know but this is that kind of degree of autonomy and kind of worldliness and like understanding
Starting point is 03:38:06 of like mortal things that's not think of all the kids in the West these days you know I mean I um you know in a what the testimony to Toland is as most of the other people was
Starting point is 03:38:25 Hitler this was basically when Hitler abandoned like all interest in schoolwork like viewing it essentially as bullshit you know and Hitler said
Starting point is 03:38:36 quote I thought that once my father saw a little progress I was making at the real school he would let me devote myself to my dream whether he liked it or not um however Hitler did perform
Starting point is 03:38:48 you know to pass Joseph Kaplanar was one of Hitler's friends who provided testimony to Toland said Hitler and I find this significant because other intimate to Hitler both from his childhood, his life as a young man as well as his later adulthood. Kaplanar said, quote, he had guts. He wasn't the hothead
Starting point is 03:39:14 but he really was more amenable than a good many. He exhibited two extremes of character, which are not often seen in unison. He was a quiet fanatic. You know, Hitler wasn't like this carpet chewing maniac. He wasn't this guy who was like yelling all the time. He wasn't this guy who came off like a tweaker. You know, there was like this quiet, quiet intensity. Like dude almost never raised his voice.
Starting point is 03:39:36 He almost never lost his temper. But he was obviously a fanatic. You know, like that's the key to Hitler. You know, people don't understand that. don't really understand like how we indexed with people the way you did and they don't really they don't really understand his um like kind of like what what appealed to the people about him in personal terms as well as in kind of you know idealized terms but um you know kepler also made the point he said you know he said the board war he said it it kind of he said it like
Starting point is 03:40:16 invigorated us you know not just the kids be adults you know the sense of historical mission and like a desire for like our own state you know german state you know he said bismarck was our hero you know he's like um you know we'd sing bismarck songs you know when when um authority figures were out of out of earshot he was like we'd uh he's like we'd secretly like um you know in private like salute each other and things you know with hale you know like it's like a lot of this a lot of stuff that became kind of the key lore of the Nazi party like literally developed when like Hitler's little kid on the frontier with other Habsburg Germans
Starting point is 03:40:54 and kind of the world situation was changing in critical ways this idea that like Hitler came up with this you know one day in 1922 because it seemed like a way to kind of sway public opinion like is ridiculous you know the degree which Hitler was a product of of that time
Starting point is 03:41:15 and epoch, particularly the you know, lins in the turn of the century. I mean, don't get me wrong. There was by no means, like, a politician or a conventional political actor, but nothing
Starting point is 03:41:32 um, nothing that, uh, he considered to be, you know, the, um, intractable kind of core of the NSDAP and its ambitions. Like, no, no, that was like, none of that was strange. None of that was, you know, issues of first impression or anything like that.
Starting point is 03:41:54 Apparently his first kind of real pageant of the opera, he came from Longgren, the Wagner Opera. He played at the Linz Opera House. and um the uh in those that don't know in long run um
Starting point is 03:42:14 a key episode is uh king Henry to assembles the like the German knights who are trying to expel
Starting point is 03:42:26 like the Magyars which I mean interestingly you know with I mean obviously that would resonate with with a Hasford um
Starting point is 03:42:35 Austrian kid But there's this There's this poetic refrain When the king's addressing the men That Travis says quote Let the Reich's enemy now appear We're well prepared to see him near From his eastern desert plain
Starting point is 03:42:54 He'll never dare to stir again The German sword to German land Thus will the Reich in vigor stand If you go by his own testimony As well as you go by kind of the what can be verified as populated the kind of cultural landscape at the time. You know, these things that, um, these kinds of key aspects, um, of Hitler's early romanticism, as well as kind of as the kind of cultural pastiche that, you know, he, he, he wanted a national
Starting point is 03:43:25 social system to become a kind of a vehicle of, um, this stuff developed when he was a kid. and I think people who commit themselves to things of that nature I mean great and small I mean obviously I'm not talking about I'm talking about regular people like myself not just you know kind of great men of history
Starting point is 03:43:43 like the stuff you really get into is the stuff like that you get into before like pre-adolescence like the stuff you're into is like a teenager young man comes and goes it tends to be kind of informed by passion and in the moment sort of impulses but like the stuff you get into when you're a kid
Starting point is 03:43:59 when you're like no longer an infant, but you're not properly like an adolescent yet. This stuff you get into when you're like 10, 11, 12 years old. You can't fully understand it yet in terms of its um, its core characteristics.
Starting point is 03:44:15 That's kind of like what stays with you as a mature man. You know, like I think. Um, it's, uh, it's somewhat different for women, but like women have to grow up fast too. You know, but it's, um, I firmly believe this. I, um, I think,
Starting point is 03:44:30 it's uh I think it should be written about more um but the um you know the real kind of um you know that more than the uh than the Vienna
Starting point is 03:44:49 Hitler I think uh I think informs the the structure of the the man's like Hitler the man's like uh Kubuzek when people and I think Kubuzek is a
Starting point is 03:45:03 something of an unreliable, you know, an unreliable narrator of myth and lore, but I think his testimony about Hitler, I mean, basically tracks, in my opinion with what other people say. And it's, um, you know, when, um, Hitler, um, Hitler being told, uh, Hitler was confident based on, on his, you know, what he'd submitted to other people who were in a position to judge such things, you know, kind of people in like administrative and gatekeeper roles, okay? When he, that he was confident that his portfolio would be accepted, you know, to the school of fine arts. Like when it wasn't, and when the rector said, oh no, but don't be discouraged, you know, your, your, your ability obviously lies in the field of architecture,
Starting point is 03:45:51 young man, you know, it wasn't just that, it wasn't just that Hitler didn't want to jump in a bunch of hoops and probably his financial situation wouldn't, wouldn't allow that. but I mean it was that his whole kind of vision itself and what he wanted out of life and you know the you know artists are artists of the soul is wanting to participate in something like greater than the cell it's very spiritual you know this this was crushing in a way it wouldn't be just you know if if hitler didn't land his first job that he coveted or something you know um and uh immediately after you know like the following month um that's when Hitler received news from the postmaster that his mother was dying. So he rushed back to Linz.
Starting point is 03:46:44 He saw a doctor Block again, who when Hitler's mom first fell ill, you know, was the doctor Hitler retained because he had a reputation for being, you know, the best in his field. the drastic treatments that were available then involved um involved uh treating the patient with large doses like dangerous large doses
Starting point is 03:47:12 of ideoform um what's uh I uh it's basically a kind of crude for chemotherapy you know something with the surgery and somebody where metastasis is already present. They'd be wrapped, the open wound would be wrapped in claws, gauzes dipped in idiiform.
Starting point is 03:47:45 And an idiiform, one of the side effects is that the patient wouldn't be able to swallow. Um, you know, it was a, it was, it, it's, it sounds like a kind of torture, you know, um, you know, and Block admonished Hitler that, you know, this, this is a very dangerous procedure and I, there's not any reason to believe that she'll recover, but this is all we can do. And, um, you know, uh, Block explained later in his interviews, you know, he said that, you know, the procedure was the idiiform itself as a nauseating odor, like chemical odor. It would burn its wing to the tissues, you know, to kill the tumors ideally. But it was, it basically would torture the patient, okay? Block said that Hitler's mom was a typically stoic Germanly. He said that, quote unflinchingly and uncomplainingly she bore her burden but it seemed to torture her son
Starting point is 03:48:58 and anguish grimace would come over him when he saw pain contract her face speaking of him speaking of Hitler when when she died you know Block expressed his condolences to Hitler um
Starting point is 03:49:23 you know and Hitler thank Block for everything he'd done. He assured him that he'd be compensated for the remainder of who was owed, and he was. The doctor said he saw that Hitler was his Hitler's sketchpad. Hitler had drawn a final sketch of his mom, like, you know, as she died. And Block said that, you know, he said, I've seen many deathbed scenes. I never saw anyone so prostrate with griefs, they'd off Hitler. Now, you know, before people, I mean, Hitler was at the teenager at this point, and before people say,
Starting point is 03:49:57 like, oh, you know, this represents some sort of an inappropriate attachment to his mom or something. Like, Hitler's mom was all that he had. You know, he had a dead father who'd been a, you know, a mean bully who was kind of loathed by everybody. You know, he had four dead siblings in the grave. He had a big brother who, like,
Starting point is 03:50:25 you know, ran away and never looked back. He had a little sister that he had to take care of. You know, I mean, I and plus like losing your mom sucks I speak from experience you know I mean like it's I uh same yeah you know um
Starting point is 03:50:39 especially and it's one thing if uh it's one thing if you're you know if you're a married man and you got you know like a family and like you know people around you it's like you know
Starting point is 03:50:53 at the end of the day like you know if if you're a single man it's like your mom and your dad care about you and like that's about it you know I mean that's not that's not playing some kind of murder or something, but it's it hits hard if you're a young person
Starting point is 03:51:07 and your mom dies. You know what I mean? I mean, it hits hard anyway, but you know, the and like I said, Block, he was emphatic. You know, he said, Hiller, he's like, obviously, you know, like I was enjoying
Starting point is 03:51:22 certain privileges and immunities I would not have if I was not, you know, who I am under the right government, this idea that like Hitler like was seeking revenge against a block or something, and this, you know, took on this, like, anti-Jewish posture. And that's, that's fucking ridiculous. But the reason I emphasize this is because it's, like I said, it's not, um, there's not really any way to understand Hitler without, you know, appealing to kind of symbolic psychological phenomenon.
Starting point is 03:51:53 I mean, that's true for like any, you know, Alexander the Great, very probably murdered his father. I know that there's there's controversies and people have many, I mean, there's many kind of competing theories, but I, you know, one part because he felt his mother was being disrespected by the, you know, his father's kind of new concubine and became the favored wife and also that, you know, who wasn't Macedonian. but you know and the era parent would become you know the child that he sided with her
Starting point is 03:52:36 but it's you know you're not going to find you you're not really going to find a kind of squeaky clean I don't know if that's even the right way to characterize it your early life in a
Starting point is 03:52:51 in any truly great man's biography and especially he's a Hitler you know like Stofi is always driving home in his kind of rebuttal biography of the furor
Starting point is 03:53:09 Hitler wasn't the politician pretty much in every opportunity Hitler avoided politics or said this is a waste of our time or he did manage people you know like he did Von Poppin and the kind of legacy um the members of the legacy regime
Starting point is 03:53:26 you know, like you don't understand what we're doing here. Like, you know, we, this is a historical mission. We're thinking in terms of millennia. You know, we're not, we're not trying to, we're not trying to come to terms with the social Democrats with the budget. You know, we're not, we're not playing this, we're not engaged in this charade of parliamentarism, you know, um, where, uh, we're engaged in a world historical enterprise, probably sight unseen since Genghis Khan.
Starting point is 03:53:57 you know, and I've emphasized before in my writing as well as in our discussions the degree to which Hitler and particularly Himmler emphasized Yasa as well as other aspects of the Mongol
Starting point is 03:54:18 culture. But you know, Yasa was the oral legal tradition, knowledge of which was restricted to a dedicated cast but the national socialist interest in this kind of thing,
Starting point is 03:54:38 particularly in this subject was nuanced, but the understanding that we've got this kind of pastiche of peoples that constitute our civilizational organism that were scattered to the wind by the 30 years of war. Now we're trying to create a kind of cohesion therein and rebuild and bring up our racial stock or cultural stock, what do you prefer, that's become weakened and is definitely inferior in critical ways vis-a-vis our adversaries. And we've got to, you know, we've got to create a kind of new European man.
Starting point is 03:55:25 You know, these are things that the Mongols are charged with two in their own way. I mean, the Mongols, they, you know, the Turks, when they were, you know, a step people, they, you know, they, they, they, they were like a pastiche of ethnicities, you know, that they'd taken on as Janusers or slaves, and then were like manumitted and assimilated. I mean, it wasn't, we're not talking about that degree of, of, um, alienage, you know, between German people, but, um, um, Hitler was correct. And what he described as, you know, the kind of shattering catalyst of the 30 years war and, you know, later modernity on the Germans as a people and thus Europeans as a people.
Starting point is 03:56:18 You know, so that's key. And, I mean, I, and of course, too, the thing to keep, anybody who um anybody who views himself as possessing a mandate um a providential mandate
Starting point is 03:56:41 a world historical um right if you will um anyone who finds themselves in circumstances where they are the agent of
Starting point is 03:56:59 of history or of providence or of a divine will you know what you're talking about Cromwell or Muhammad or Philadelphia Napoleon or Genghis Khan you're gonna be forced to set aside conventional moral considerations because at a at a certain scale and and and um that that just doesn't apply anymore you know and at certain um the exigencies presented do not allow
Starting point is 03:57:39 for individualated moral judgments. This is reality. You know? And people want to pretend like that's an alien phenomenon to America or something. It's absolutely not. That's what every during the Cold War, that's what every man who took
Starting point is 03:57:59 the oath of office had to be prepared to kill tens of millions of a Soviets. I mean like that's, you know, within minutes potentially you know so um
Starting point is 03:58:13 Americans don't get to echo luf and say like oh no that's just an alibi of you know people in the old world who you don't possess or developed moral understanding but um you know the
Starting point is 03:58:28 one of the things about people like Hitler like Muhammad like Cromwell despite the kind of dummy clif's notes um propaganda versions of Hitler's ascendancy or of like or what these
Starting point is 03:58:43 like Chetnik types and these Zionists say about like Muhammad you can be the biggest con man in the world and like people aren't going to people aren't going to follow you like you're a prophet or they're not going to they're not going to decide you're like a stride history
Starting point is 03:58:59 and um you know um and and just you know say yeah I agree with you you're a messianic person just because you say so that's not the way things work. Like Hitler was the fear because that's what 80 million people said. You know, Um, Muhammad apparently was a messenger of God because, well, the entire Arabian Peninsula said he was.
Starting point is 03:59:26 You know, other, Archerromwell was never particularly religious. When he was about 40 years old, he started claiming he was in communion with God and he had no military experience, but he just like one day raised an army and uh went and cut the king's head off you know i mean like that you can um you can't just like decide what you're going to be you know um and you can't you can't just uh you can't just say like subtle circumstances somehow facilitated this like mythology being developed after the facts you know so i mean there's that too um i um I um But I focused on what I did today, because like I said, the main, excluding Toland, obviously, the main court history biographies of Edolf Hitler.
Starting point is 04:00:28 They claim that Hitler's early life and his purported psychological frailties and pathologies therein, is what made him evil. And that coupled with this irrational desire for revenge in the wake up World War I constitutes like the psychological landscape of Hitler. And none of that makes any sense. but that's why I forwarded on what I did and also I didn't um if people had uh things I wanted to raise about um the series generally I thought we could cover that but I put
Starting point is 04:01:20 I solicited questions and people didn't really have anything outstanding at least that I at least it hadn't kind of been asked and answered but that's um that's uh yeah it's what I got for today man serve being this being kind of brief but like I said you can tell I'm not at 100 send you. But I hope Not a problem. Oh yeah, I hope I hope I think I would like What's it?
Starting point is 04:01:43 I think I would like to do an episode one day where we just ask the tough questions about About him. No, it's fine man. And I'm always um yeah. I uh, people are always getting on me to do a space. I I don't really like Twitter as like a platform to do live stuff.
Starting point is 04:02:01 But um, we should do, I definitely like to do a stream. Um, on Hitler, you know, like basically on our series that we just completed, but on, you know, outstanding questions and stuff that people want to take up. Sure. I have a bunch, too. So, um, well, let's do plugs and, uh, let you get back to heal it up.
Starting point is 04:02:26 Yeah, I'll be fine, man. I mean, I, but yeah, thanks for the well wishes. Um, you can find me, my once-up shop for all my content is, It's just my website. Thomas 777.com is number 7. HMAS 777.com. The podcast and other good stuff is on Substack. It's real. Thomas 777.7.7.com.
Starting point is 04:02:55 The Twitter is real capital R-E-A-L underscore number seven, H-M-A-S-777. I'm on Instagram and TikTok and all that bullshit. But like I said, seeking you shall find. Like, go to my Twitter, go to my website, all of that. I'm in the process of a... And, like, a colleague of mine, we're pointing out of some MERS that at long last
Starting point is 04:03:25 is going to be available on the gum road. And thanks again for doing the movie series with me. People are very excited about that. And it gives me something to populate my gumroad with, as I kind of, you know, diversify products that are available and stuff. But, yeah, man, that's what I got. And we'll reconvene later this week and do more stuff. Thank you. Have a good day.

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