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Episode Date: April 10, 2025

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illumination is of the soul hence all is dark but this certain star and only a part of it is a glow from such a distance one can obtain an utterly untrammeled view of what is transpiring on this earthball drawing somewhat closer continents are visible

closer yet population streams. One focal point exists, whence the light goes forth in all directions. It is the crooked peninsula of Europe. On this tiny pendant of the great landmass of the earth ball, the greatest intensity of movement exists. One can see, for out here the soul and its emanations are visible, a concentration of ideas, energy, ambition, purpose, expansiveness, will to form.

Hovering above Europe, we can see what never before was so clearly visible, the presence of a purely spiritual organism. A close look reveals that the light stream is not flowing from the surface of the earth upwards, into the night sky, but downwards, from the hitherto invisible organism. This is this discovery of profound and revolutionary importance, which was only vouchsafed to us by reason of our complete detachment from terrestrial events in the outer void, where spirit is visible and matter visible only by reason of the light from the spirit. Thus begins Francis Parker Yaqui's magnum opus,

and I contend one of the greatest books of the entire 20th century written by an American, Imperium, the philosophy of history and politics. That little sample gives you an idea of what you're in for when reading Imperium, and I worry Imperium has a reputation because it's so long of being dense and difficult to read. it's imminently readable and the entire book reads that way. And you can already see in the first opening paragraph and this, this is, this drew me in immediately.

I was sold immediately when I read this paragraph on this guy and this book. This gives you an idea of how Yaki talks about culture and how Yaki talks about race. It's a book of metaphysics and he talks about the spiritual and he talks about materialism as a fallen state in the spiritual being. a higher thing that most intellectuals and historians ignore. Part of Yaqui's mission was to bring the spiritual aspect of culture back into the discourse. And tonight, Thomas and Pete have joined me to talk about Yaqui. Yaki's perspective on race, but Yaki in general and his ideas and how they, why they

are important for us today. And I guess my first question to you guys, before we get into Yaqui's ideas, is that, I don't think we can call Yaki forgotten anymore, but he was forgotten for a time, or not forgotten, maybe overlooked is a better word. And I personally never heard of him until maybe five years ago. So I think it's good to start by saying that this man's work was intentionally buried. This man's work was intentionally kept out of the discourse. And I don't think there's anything like this that's been written by an American since World War II.

I don't want to call him forgotten now because he's been brought up by the dissident right and he's being talked about now online. But for a long time I don't know, I don't know if his name was talked about in political discourse much at all. I mean, it's suicide.

I mean, there's a handful of people who really understand Yaki. Like, that's not some kind of flex. And honestly, and nor is this a flex, but the reason why Yaki has cashé now, in part, is because of me.

I mean, I, you know, the fact of the matter is, unless you've got some rudimentary fluency in German, like, reading it, you're not going to understand Heidegger, you're not going to understand Fichta, you're not going to understand Schopenhauer,

you're not really going to understand Nietzsche, which means you're not really going to understand Aswell Spangler, nor Hegel, which means you're not really going to understand Francis Yaqui. So there's these guys who on what passes for like the dissident right

in America and despite what like internet guys think, it wasn't like, the dissident right wasn't like invented in 2019 by like internet guys. It goes back decades upon decades. But their perspective was generally like this kind of policy based

pragmatic viewpoint that was like discreetly oriented towards specific problems. Like why is racial integration being forced at gunpoint and let's like address that from a policy perspective or like why is there this kind of schizophrenic seeming disposition towards the cold war and communism let's like deal with that you know like America is not a philosophically driven society you know like there's like like r Russell correct me that point this isn't some like wild dissident point so this like hegelian spanglerian like national socialist author who basically

defected to Europe. Like, no one's going to be into that because it's not speaking their language, figuratively and literally. And Willis Cardo, who was an important guy, and there's the Willis Cardo Library now online, which I highly recommend to people, because there's some really fascinating stuff there, if you're historical research,

or not just as writing, but as correspondences with all kinds of people and stuff. But Cardo, Cardo was kind of in that vein of the American right I talked about, but Cardo realized Yaki was an important personage, what important things to say. So when Yaki was locked up in San Francisco on charge of espionage and a bunch of other stuff, Cardo went to visit him and made sure he made contact, like with Yaki's sisters and stuff,

so that he could make sure that, like, his work got out there. because Yaki's number was up. If he hadn't killed himself, he was going to go away probably for like decades. Okay. And Carter was the first to admit he wasn't some like political theory scholar or some kind of like highfalutin intellectual. But again, to his credit, he realized this was very important. You know, but again, the reason why people never really bandied Yaki is because they didn't understand him. He wasn't even in their, he wasn't like even in their wheelhouse.

And that's like a point. When I started studying this kind of stuff, I came across Yaki through the IHR and Super Civil Review. Because like back, you know, pre-internet, their newsletter was like an essential source of a kind of scholarly information. And Yaki's book would come up again and again. And that owed to Keith Steinley, who I mentioned before, went live, who was a, um, uh, an IHR a writer and

he he was a big yakiite so I began wondering like what's like you know you'd hear like bits and pieces about yaki being an important intellectual from various people and yaki was also much a partisan

I mean that's why he died I mean he was he was very engaged as an active partisan but um so I sought out imperium I found it to use the bookstore door and I started diving into it. And I realized, okay, this is like the only like meaningful post-war statement in National Socialism in English.

It's not like, because Americans don't know what the fuck they're talking about in this regard generally. Like national socialism isn't George Lincoln Rockwell like trolling black people. It's not it's not, it's not it's not it's not guys who who don't like school busing like dressing up like horse vessel. You know, it's not, um, it's not just like. conservatism on steroids. You know, like, and other than Yaki and guys like George Sylvester Vyrrick and Condi

McGinley, and a guy who I think, who I draw a lot of inspiration from, James Hartung Maddell and the National Renaissance Party, like, they were very thick with Yaki. Like, Maddole knew Yon. And anything Rockwell did that was worthwhile, which was not a lot, he basically stole from Maddol. Like, Maddo had a legit like fascist presence in the street in the 50s.

And the NRP endured until the late 70s. And they were openly pro-Soviet. Not because they liked Stalinism and not because they like the Russians, but they realized that the Cold War paradigm, you know, meant that

an American victory in the Cold War would lead to the situation we have now. And if for no other reason, you know, that Europe's only, Europe's only opportunity to liberate itself would be some kind of concord with the Soviets, which is absolutely true. You know, these are the only guys who really understood national socialism. I realize that was long-winded, but that's, I mean, that's, that's why, like, you don't really see Yaqui on the right.

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for more infoosies sky.a slash speeds. people on the internet who banned you in without really understanding. But yeah. Well, that's true. I found out who Yaki was because of you and I had read Decline of the West, both volumes. And, you know, at this point, having read Imperium more than once, I would say you should probably go straight from Spangler to Yaki. He's very much Spangler's heir.

And I don't know. I think this stuff is pretty lucid and straightforward and comprehensive. if you haven't read Spengler, but I think you're missing a lot if you haven't read Spengler. I mean, it isn't. And like I, I said the same thing to people about Heidegger.

It's like, yeah, like in plain English, if there's a correct translation of Heidegger, you can perceive it in some basic way, but you basically need to have a deep understanding of Aristotle. And that means you need to have a deep understanding of the pre-Socratics. and again, you also got to understand the lineage there, you know,

and I don't present myself as understanding these things because I'm so smart, but I'm almost 50 years old, and I've spent 30 years studying this stuff. You know, I mean, like, so there's that, you know, like, it's a very involved enterprise, and

there's epistemic priors to people like Yaki and Spangler that draw upon the European canon that, again, like, doesn't really exist in America. You know, like, such that there's an American, like, metaphysical tradition. It's basically, uh, it's basically biblical, you know, and that's, and I'm not putting shade on that.

That's my own heritage. You know, I'm a Bible Protestant. Um, there's a, the federalist papers, uh, like, draw upon the capital R Republican tradition in some basic way, but, you know, there's not, um, there's not, um, there's There's not a philosophical tradition in America that's continental. And such that there's like American philosophers. Like they're their guys in the analytics school and it's basically formal logic and like philosophy of science and like theoretical math. There's nothing that's important stuff, but that's not political theory.

It's something totally different. Well, I was, okay, so I'd like to start with. So check the show notes because Thomas and Pete have a great episode. which is more introductory on Yaqui, I'd like to just get right into his ideas and his concepts here because they're pretty idiosyncratic for an American audience. And to build on the last episode, I don't know if we,

how does Yaqui understand race and how does Yaqui talk about race? And the thing that I really want to ask is why was his perspective on race controversial? And it still is today. Because Americans don't understand it. because it comes on an epistemic triers, okay? If you're talking about including the actual national socialists of the Third Reich, if you're talking about race, like Ross, in the traditionally understood sense,

you're not talking about like people's biology or like, you know, animal husbandry but applied to people. And like we're not talking about race because we're worried about, you know, Do these people have an IQ like these people? So is affirmative action the right way to go? That that's not within anybody's contemplation, but Americans. And this kind of idea, the fact that matter is what Americans think is like right wing. They think it's basically like a post-enlightenment discussion on like the efficacy of like treating everyone the same or different. That is nothing to do with, with capital our race.

Yaghi's position is this. It's the Aristotelian position. It's the traditional capital T position that the origins of human culture, like the origin of human life is mysterious. It's not clear exactly where this comes from. But what's fundamentally important to it is things like historical memory, which is in part biological and epigenetic, but is in part ill understood and like how people inherit those the things that can't really be rationally quantified. You know, culture basically is defined by prime symbols, a certain like aesthetic, like a certain series of symbolic psychological phenomenon that people identify with in some perennial way. You know, the natural environment in which they live, like the soil in which they're dead or literally.

buried and then from which like the food they eat grows you know this has the effect of like shaping like a people and it kind of like this common like social organism and that's what a race is like is there a biological component to it like yeah course but like you're not i made the point of people bored too especially these like weirdos who insist that like being jewish is some like biological thing it's like so if i took like i took like like a baby who like had Jewish parents, and put him on a desert island, and he never heard of like the outside world.

Like when he hit 12 years old, he'd suddenly start acting Jewish. Like that, that's retarded. That's not, that's not the way human life is. And, but that was like, that was Yaki's, like, perspective on race,

okay? And, like, the collision with the modern world of, you know, traditional things and the capital T, this, this kind of, fear and loathing of what Ernst Noli called practical transcendence. This kind of, not just like a demystifying of the world, but this kind of inability for people to engage psychologically anymore with, you know, these prime symbolic aspects

of culture, but also the historical phenomenon that underlies it. Like, that was like a big concern of national socialist, obviously. That was like their paramount concern. but people I misunderstand but you know because in the 20th century as politics became total and the state became this kind of absolute arbiter

of affairs of a political and sociological nature you'd have like you'd have guys like in the Third Reich and in America and everywhere talking about race you know in in in juristic terms or in administrative terms like

oh we we need to sterilize habitual criminals or how do we define as a matter of law like who is a white person that's not what we're talking about in philosophical terms of like whatever race is you know you're talking about like some kind of some kind of diminished understanding of an incredibly complicated and deep phenomenon for the purpose of administrative like praxis and like a practical business and government and like that's what the problem is yeah like don't mean wrong like people who's people who are interested in like human biological diversity and interested in like race in anthropological terms.

I'm not saying it's like something wrong with it. And I'm not saying it's not important. But that's totally different than like what I'm talking about and what people like Yaki and Heidegger and Spangler and Nietzsche and Ficta and Hegel and everybody else was talking about for the last literally thousand years. Well, let me, let me ask this. It seems like Yaki in his chapter on race and nations, He definitely makes a, I think one of the problems a lot of people have what Yaki too is, is that once you get to a world where, you know, religion doesn't matter anymore, people don't have a confessional heritage anymore. They're, you know, oh, I'm going back to my pagan roots kind of thing. Yaki speaks in very metaphysical terms, especially when it comes to, when it comes to race, because it seems like,

he's like, sure, there are, you know, the spirit is tied to the soil, but it also seems like he, he doesn't put any kind of importance in any race other than one that possesses a high culture. Yeah, because you, you can't talk about, well, I mean, now Spangler's a point, too. And, like, Spangler, despite, I mean, one of the ways I can tell people don't actually read this stuff, because, like, both people on the right and on the left, like, your critiques of Schengler don't make any. sense. Spangler said that Mesoamerica had a high culture, you know, like the Aztec empire, they reached genuine civilization, which goes without saying,

but this idea that Spangler disdained, like, non-white people. I mean, that's not the way people thought about stuff. Like, yeah, obviously, like, Spangler was concerned with his own kind. I mean, it's the whole point. But you can't talk about

you can't talk about a race in historical terms. We were talking some like forgotten tribe of like 50 people that spoke a language nobody else did that never got beyond like the Stone Age that was like a ceremoniously overrun by like the Zulu Empire

say in like 1805 I mean there's probably like a million instances like that okay but in an anthropological sense yeah like such hypothetical people have a culture but not in the sense like we're talking about here

and they don't like engage with the historical process in a meaningful way. You know, so that's where some of the confusion arises. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.

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But it's also, you know, I'm always making the point that Schopenhauer is a lot more important to the European right than Nietzsche was. And Yaqui is constantly falling back on Schovenhaer tropes. I'm not saying that pejoratively. I agree. Like Schopenhauer is a philosophical giant and he's far more important than Nietzsche. But this idea that, like, the only thing that really redeems man is like high culture. Like that's a Schovenhauer idea.

And it's not like a will to power idea. Like, although there's some common conceptual ground there, but that's what he's getting at, basically. It's not just that if we're talking about the historical process, you know, peoples without and races without high culture, they're not engaged with that process, but also, like, if we're talking about kind of like the raison d'etra of what it quits, like, human life, like, that's what it is. Okay, it's the ability to, um, it's the ability to rise above, like, uh, man's, like, deistial aspects and partake of, you know, his truly God-given aspects of, um, um, not just higher reason, but, you know, the ability to perceive like higher forms and like the platonic sense. Well, on that note, something Yaki says repeatedly, and this is in Spangler as well, is that he says that like races and peoples are stratified. And they both refer to a culture bearing stratum. And they talk about in Spangler, the peasant class.

And he says that the peasant class is like the founding stock, but they're not the culture bearing stratum. And this is basically, Yaki seems to agree with this and take this up. So I don't know if we want to get into that, but briefly, the way they talk about it is, like, you have the peasants who are close to the land, who are agrarian. And then you have the culture bearing stratum who comes in, who are the nobility. And in the case of Europe, it's like the same group of people that are in Russia as well, the Norsemen, the Norsemen. right the goths the danes the vrangians the swedes the norwegians uh they sort of uh went out across europe and they populated they seated their genetics all through europe and they became the culture bearing stratum i think that the most common example of this is uh normandy france and uh southern

england where the nobility spoke french but the the peasants uh on the the lower rung spoke English or middle English. And I want to get to Russia, but we'll wait for a second here. I don't know if Thomas wants to say anything about this, what the culture-bearing stratum is, and that these are the people who have culture, who create culture and perpetuate culture. The standard bearers of it, you know, like the peasant class who's like the blood and soil peasant cast, they absolutely have culture, but, you know, they're the subjects of it. And, like quite literally. They're like the mentioned material like

of the cultural organism but they're not like the standard bears of it. Like if you'll allow an imperfect metaphor, like imagine like a neo-classical skyscraper. Okay. Like the peasant cast is literally like the concrete foundation of it. Like the artifices and like

the beautiful sculpture and work and whatever and the edifices like of like all around around to the spires, all right, that's the culture very straight of them. You know, look, if you're going to talk about, like, if you're going to talk about, like, what it means to be, you know, if you're going to talk about what it means to be, like, English

in, like, historical terms, or what it means to be, you know, like, Prussian, like the standard bearers of that tenancy are the nobility. Okay, they're the people that have, like, a deep historical understanding of these things. they're the people who embody those characteristics or the people who literally rule over the lower orders

in a conscious as well as instinctive way you know that that's what the difference is the way to think about him as the standard bearer and that's why well it's also too why capital T traditional societies are attached to nobility

because in royalty specifically like that's like with the king of the queen or like the emperor's like role is. First of all, like the origin of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, mysterious. I mean, in the case of Japan, it goes back literally thousands of years in a linear capacity. Okay.

But it's like, okay, these people also, they're, they're, they're literally like the living standard bearer of the nation. Like, that, that's the difference, you know, and it's, um, and again, if we accept that, like, the culture is a constellation of, of prime symbols. of a symbolic psychological nature of aesthetical judgments and um like an inherited uh and inherited concepts um which are pre-rational in nature you know um obviously for some reasons prosaic and some profound the uh the ruling cast is going to like embody those things like that's one of the reasons why another problem in america is people confuse the right

wing with like a like capitalism or something like oh the political divide is capitalist against socialist it's not what it is and the uh the rise of the business class that there was as much enmity between an eminy aristocracy as between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie like like the enlightenment was basically class warfare of like the business class against the aristocracy they're not the same thing. Not only they're not the same thing in some ways they're opposites and their enemies.

You know, like that's and one of the things one of the things people like although I mean people like Cromwell and Napoleon like Hitler Hitler very constantly was trying to do this

the former weren't this is what they were doing although to varying degrees of consciousness like reconciling that hostility to reintegrate the cultural organism is like a prime mission of

of these kinds of heroic figures in the Carlisle sense. We seem to be able to reconcile dialectical antithesis into coherent revolutionary imperatives. Okay, good. Can I jump in?

Go ahead. Yeah, please. Okay, so when you're looking at the culture-bearing element, one of the one of the things that Yaki mentions a characteristic is self-sacrifice and when I'm reading that I'm reading that as

it sounds to me like a partisan like how the nobility would go out and they would lead the charge in a war they didn't sit back they didn't send their they didn't send the sons and daughters

of the peasants off to fight the wars. They, they were actually out there with the men. Is that part of it is a, is, is a culture-bearing element of a high culture? Are they going to be a partisan for that culture where it's to live, it's delivered to die to protect it? Well, I mean, that's your job. Like, partisanship's problematic because that's very much to me. I mean, it, and the one in it's perennial, I mean, it goes back in the Bible. I mean, like, zealots were partisans, but, and if you're, like, the nobility is the trade-off is if you're a nobleman you have benefits and privileges normal people don't and uh it's kind of axiomatically you're going to be wealthy but like the trade off of that is

that when the nation goes to war like that's you're you're probably going to die you know and um that also means that you're held to a higher standard you know you're like george bagby and i were talking about this the other day like you know you're you're permitted to bear arms and you're permitted, for example, you know, to demand satisfaction for insults to your honor, but it's considered completely abhorrent and unacceptable for you to say challenge like a peasant to a fight because that's not fair, you know, and you're, say, for example, if you're like a peasant who gets caught up, like, you know, being drunk in public and acting like an idiot, that's not a big deal. For a nobleman, that's a very big deal. You know, so it's, yeah, it's,

you're you're not wrong um but it uh it's intrinsic to uh no bless oboge um you know not not only are not only are these guys literal like fathers kind of of of the nation and it's their job to to be benevolent towards their charges and you know to be equitable in um in their administration of justice. You know, that's, uh, that's why like in the American tradition, like, King David is invoked a lot, you know, as like a man of like sound judgment in dealing with, you know, his charges. Um, but you also, when the nation goes to war, like, you've got, you've got an obligation

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princes was KIA in the Falklands War. And then after that, like the British got all weird about, oh, we can't send the royals to wars. Like, the fuck are you talking about? That's their only job. You know, and like that, there's something really perverse about that.

But that, I mean, that's kind of an aside. But yeah, that's a good point you raised, man. Obviously. All right. So to talk about the low culture and the high culture, something Spengler says is that like the peasant stock that I was referring to earlier, that's the lower KC culture. And a point that him and Yaki make is that they're there like forever. The people who were telling the land in Europe in, you know, 2000, let's say 2,000 years ago are the same people who were telling the soil a thousand years ago.

And they're the same people who are going to be tilling the soil in a thousand years. So when culture, when Spengler and Yaki are talking about culture, they're talking about. upper case C culture. And there's only been a few of those in history. And they have them worked out. The quote I read from Yaki, he goes on to talk about all the different cultures that Spengler identified,

the Magian culture, the classical culture, Apollonian. So Western culture is Faustian culture. And Spangler says it was born around the year 1,000. So there was a break when classical Apollonian culture, died or declined and went away. And then the Byzantines that we know about that some people say is the continuation of Rome. According to Spengler, that was the Magian culture. And then the Faustian culture started in the year 1000, right around the time of 1066 and all that, the Bayou tapestry.

So what was happening between the fall of Rome and the year 1000 when the Faustian culture was born? according to them that's lowercase C culture. And the Faustian culture was the uppercase C culture. So that brings up a question. What are we now here in America? Are we the continuation of the Faustian? No. America was, in many respects, founded in opposition to Europe.

You know, and I, Hitler himself made the point that, like, the American South was like the high culture of America and that's true. But even that, it was a discrete kind of thing. It was different than it was different than the continental tradition. And I made the point, too, I take exception. There's this book called LBian seed. And there's some

there's some insightful analyses in there, but there's also some bullshit. And there's this paradigm a lot of a lot of historians and cultural anthropologist types

assigned to the Americas where it's like oh you know the north and especially the northeast you know they were they were the heirs to Cromwell and the south was a bunch of royalist cavaliers that's not true and um the kind of backbone of the south

was reformed the center elements you know like like stonewall Okay, like that's, that goes without saying. But I make the point a lot. If you read, especially read John Jay and Hamilton and the Federalist papers, they're constantly coming back to this point that America is like the Anglo-Saxon heritage. And where we're reasserting the rights of like free men and the Yale menry against this kind of Latin tyranny. And that's the way Americans thought of themselves.

themselves. You know, that's why Americans identified as Angles Saxons. They didn't identify as a bunch as a bunch of Norman royals. You know, they didn't, they didn't identify as a bunch of Frenchmen. Like they, despite like Jeffersonian,

I mean, Jefferson was, was completely incoherent in his kind ideological fetishes. So I get sick of people invoking, like, oh, America's a Franco phone culture politically. It's like, that's retarded. but the um it's not it's not just some kind of romantic mythos or some meaningless turn of phrase when the federalists in particular like talk about how we're like this anglo-saxon country

that's got certain implications okay um but um you know the like like the west is i mean this is something of a different question but it relates directly to yaki's enterprise as a partisan as a writer because you know he was he was fighting the cold war um america's not america's not like the heir to europe it's not fausty in civilization like not even close it's it's hostile to it like the west went down at stolengrad

and even with that not the case there's only one form of government today and there's that the prime primary imperative of that government planetary scope and scale is to eradicate discrete cultural forms and impose this like ideological monoculture on the planet so when people talk about like we're in the west and there's these sovereign states that are like jockeying for power that's that's completely at odds of reality the world hasn't been like that since 1918. You know, so this is important. But, so there is, there is like a high cultural European-derived strain because Anglophone peoples are European. But even long before the 20th century and long before the kind of controversies and politics of

of the world wars and things like Great Britain and the several cultures that constituted was discreet and insular from the continent in basic ways that carries over into America. I mean, that's why when people ask me about cultural stuff. I mean, first and foremost, if you're somebody

like me in my background, your confessional heritage is paramount. I mean, I'm like a reformed Protestant, but also I'm Anglophone. I'm not a European. You know, like I, I don't mean like pejoratively or something, but like people, if you're a descendant of an anglophone heritage, and that includes people like Hugueness, it includes people like, you know, German Protestants, not of the Lutheran tradition, but of the reformed tradition, and there's more than you might think. I include that in the same kind of cultural prestige. And that's why in places like South Africa, that's why in places like Ulster, that's why in places like Ulster, that's why in places like,

like Australia, New Zealand, you find this kind of common constellation of those different ethnicities kind of ossifying into this like Anglophone hole. But it's different, it's different than continental cultural tendencies, you know. And that's one of the reason Mosley was such an interesting figure. I realize I'm jumping around a bit because Mosley kind of reconciled that divide in a way that that was meaningful and organic terms, but that's basically the way

to understand it. And that's also why it's that's also why it's misguided. He'll talk about like the West. I mean, I realize like regime conservatives, like when they see the West, they're talking about like fast food

in certain ways of doing business and like governments the approval of. It's like literally like meaningless, but I'm not talking about that. But even people who are obviously more intelligent and, you know, who are in the correct place in terms of their ethics and the concepts that inform those ethics. They don't really understand that, like, there's not, you know, that there's not like, we don't live in, like, a truly multipolar world. We don't live in a world of, like, nation states that are truly discreet and sovereign. We don't live in a world where like, oh, America, because it has a bunch of white people is like the error to faustian civilization.

That's not what's happening at all. And that's the reason why World War II is so critical because it created the modern world in political and sociological and historical terms. Okay, good. This is extremely important to understanding Yaqui and his concept of Imperium. Go ahead, Pete. I'll save there. Is one of the reasons why Yaqui would say that the

Jews don't have a race is because they all they're appearing to do throughout the last 2,000 years of history is to either preserve a bloodline or preserve

a way of living. It seems like he would say that there's no high. there's there's not even a hint of a high culture there because everything seems to be on the aimed at the material well it's also it's not something people don't understand yeah that's true but something people don't understand either is that when you're talking about like the jewish people of like 2025 like you're not you're not talking about the descendants of of king david

like you're not talking i don't mean that in some corny christian identity way the temple was destroyed in 70 AD Judaism was done. There is no Judaism without a sacrificing priesthood without a temple, you know, without a kingdom. So Judaism was done. Then in 135 AD basically a bunch of Jewish lawyers, like literally, like a bunch of Jewish jurists and like rabbinic students and guys who spent all their time like studying the Talmudians.

they approach the Romans and they're like yeah we want to set up we want to set up like a rabbinic school and the Romans are like do whatever you want so this like rabbinic tendency developed around around Talmudic Judaism and it's about it's about tricking people and like hostility to the other and this kind of ethical discourse on you know on vengeance and things. It's not like what we think of as like a religion. And it's not premised on it. It's like a political grievance structure.

You know? And yeah, that's why I'm always making the point. And people chalk this up to, people chalk this up to, you know, my own prejudices or whatever. Like, if you look at Israel, it's this weird pastiche of like 20th century, like racialism, like military socialism,

some, like, bizarre, kind of totally outmoded, like, secular, atheist, identitarian stuff. And it's like, why do they speak Hebrew? That makes no sense. You know, like, why wouldn't they speak Aramaic if the whole thing is we're going to pretend to be, you know, the kingdom of Judea, you know, of Saul and David and Solomon? Like, the whole thing's like really fake, you know, so, yeah, he's right. And this idea, and you see that, too, like, with these, um, the ultra-orthodox that people recall that, I mean, obviously they've got a more sophisticated and incredible view, like, of their own heritage. I mean, regardless of what anybody thinks about them.

But people like Netanyahu, and these, like, idiots who constitute kind of the front bench elite, who just like, look at the way they talk. It's like sometimes they're pretending to be just what I said, you know, like the standard bearers of, like, Old Testament Judaism and Masada. like sometimes they're pretending to to be this this like superior race like they don't sometimes they're like pretending to be

true blue Americans like it doesn't make any sense and I don't just mean it doesn't make any sense in that it's cynical and tailored to discreet audiences in terms of its propaganda I mean it's that too but

in like ontological ways it doesn't make sense, you know, because there's nothing there. You know, like, it's fake. You know, it's this idea of, um, there being like this deep kind of heritage, uh, to, to, to rabbinic Judaism is nonsense.

But it's also, again, like, there is, there is no Judaism without a temple. I mean, like, read the old testament. I realize, like, I'm not saying everybody should abide my traditions, confessionally. But, okay, when you read the old test, man, and they're talking about the temple, and they're talking about

the Sadducees and the Pharisees, and they're talking about the essential aspects of literal sacrifice. Does that sound like Judaism today? Like, no, it doesn't. You ever met a Jewish priest? No, you haven't. You know, why? They don't exist. Because there is no more Judaism.

Yeah, and it's, it seems like if you're going to use the definitions that Yaqui uses for race and for high culture, there's just nothing there. No. So all so all you're experiencing and all anyone was experiencing at the time that Yaqui was alive was basically this group of people who their whole, if you want to call it a heritage,

is tricking people and basically looking to get over on everyone. And that's basically what's controlling Europe now and the United States. And the only pushback you're getting that he even sees. starts to see is in the 50s with the USSR. Yeah. Yeah. And Yaki had a complicated view of the Russians, which I basically agree with. You know, but, but yeah, the, and Russia, um, uh, Russia and the Jews as a people are, are, massively at odds. You know, I mean, that, that, and people, that's not the thing Americans can't seem to understand. I mean, that's a whole other issue. But yeah, I

basically agree with that. And that's why, but that's also too why, I mean, a lot of people misunderstand Nietzsche's writing on I mean, on Jews. And a lot of that stuff is also kind of deliberately de-emphasized because, uh, academic academic academic academic academic academic academic midwit, but it's also obviously like, like very left-wing in nature. So they, it's a, it's a combination of misunderstanding the the nuances of

Nietzsche and historiography but it's also a basic discomfort with his account of the Jewish people but Nietzsche's all claim was that well like rabbinic Judaism is going to cease to exist because there's no foundation so he's like essentially these people are going to like become European

you know or their or their culture is going to die out of inability to perpetuate itself like if we can call it a culture I mean for the reasons like we've been discussing you know because like how can something like that endure. You know, of course, like Nietzsche was writing during the 19th century and that it would have been impossible to predict the outcomes of these kinds of titanic struggles of the century subsequent.

But yeah, I'm going to raise up in a minute, Frank, because I don't feel great. I'm sorry to could be abrupt, but um, it's kind of like a rough day in terms of, um, things. I, uh, I'm not trying to be a bore who pitches about its health, but um, it's, uh, that's where I'm at. But we can reconvene later this weekend or next week if you want to continue this discussion. I do. Uh, as we're talking, it's hitting me that it was completely naive of me to think we could talk about yaki in one episode.

It's, it's way too expansive. So if you guys are up for it. not to put you on the spot. Oh, no. It's, uh, we, whenever you guys, I, like, this is what I do with my time. I mean, like, I, we can reconvene and talk about this anytime you want. Just, uh, let me know when you want to do it. You know, like I said, you know, probably next week, it'll be better for this weekend.

It's a lot of it. I got a lot of commitments, like, like, content wise, but yeah, just let me know.