The Pete Quiñones Show - The Inquisition: Episode 38

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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After a long hiatus, the Inquisition is back right now. We have Thomas, Peter Quinonez, and, of course, the man who's perpetually on color people time, Carl Dahl. That's right. CP time. That's right. Yeah. I'm surprised you were able to make it. I mean, it's only like five minutes late.

I mean, this is some type of land speed record for you, Carl. Hey, I'm usually on time, but many of these early afternoon things, I have other pressing items, but thank you for your patience, gentlemen. Like a job? Yeah, allegedly. All right, I think that's as full of a house as we're going to get. Thomas, you want to kick us off? Well, yeah, I've been exhausted with Iran.

I've been exhausted with just the Iran talk, watching it spiral. I think the domestic implications of it are far more interesting. Well, yeah, the people were throwing shade on Friar talk for apologizing for endorsing Trump. I think that was every sincere sentiment, and it was well placed. I this regime is in the this administration is indefensible. I mean, even if even if you're some sort of infantile moron or some sort of or some sort of race trader Zionist, within the parameters of of those commitments, there's absolutely no strategic framework to the war on Iran. There's no plausible military mission. There's not a force structure that can facilitate. an outcome. There's not there's not any declared outcome, there are a declared objective that

could be realized as a military outcome. And I think that that's, I think that that's inarguable. I've tried to make the point of people too, especially when Rabbi Trump, I mean, first of all, too, it's Trump's handlers, it should be, it should be restricting him from social media and keeping it out of public view at all cost. Like Colonel House did Wilson after Wilson had a massive stroke the last year and a half his administration and for all medical purposes, his mind was gone.

So House made sure that you know, and I mean for decades, people didn't know about this. You know, finally, some of Wilson's staffers came clean literally in the 1950s. You know, those were still alive. But just like letting Trump make a fool of himself on social media day after day after day. I mean, you're really your only job

if you're in one of the more superfluous cabinet positions is making sure that doesn't happen. But I, you know, aside from that, I'm sure people think I'm just being cantankerous or pedantic,

but when people try and organize the discussion around, well, it's terrible that Trump's talking about regime change. Regime change doesn't exist. it's some delusional fantasy of globalists and Zionist Cretans who who are incessantly want to avail other societies to unprovoked violent military action. There's never been a single instance where an unprovoked massive military assault on a foreign society

has resulted in the body politics spontaneously deciding they love the people killing them and they want to provide an actual organic majority and mandate that some client of the government that is killing them and attacking their country. Like that that's asinine. Like anybody who thinks that that is possible or that is a thing or that that's some sort of precedent activity or outcome in the historical record, they're either staggeringly fucking stupid or they're literally delusional. So let's remove the phrase regime change from,

the lexicon. I think it was coined by that by that future William Crystal anyway. It's like why this, why somebody like him is being allowed to

invent um you know, invent terms that are or are then bandied as if they have some sort of deep and substantive meaning is beyond me. But you know that the regime change

than something that exists. It's like saying Easter Bunny or, or, you know, something on that order, as though it has meaning. So I don't, even people, even people who lack sophistication or a meaningful understanding, the implications of, the deeper implications of what's underway here,

you're talking about an indefensible policy course that obviously is, you know, only going to result in the material impoverishment of the country and the diminution of what remains of its vestial credibility. So, yeah, I, Trump has managed to accomplish nothing

during his tenure rather than to, you know, again, like further pissed away any vestigeal credibility that America had. So, I mean, that's a positive because this regime needs to die and the more that's expedited, the better. yeah that that's the main story you know it's not um well and then you have these low IQ mutants out there who are like no no Trump needs to act this way because he has to be tough with other countries because other country Putin is tough um j is tough so he has to act tough problem is he's not acting tough he's acting like the old man that you know used to get put into

public asylums before fucking Reagan closed him because he was probably going to end up in one. He's fucking, that's not acting tough. I don't know what it means like, because, yeah, I mean, the strategic landscape's not like a junior high school playground, but if we're talking about, does Putin act tough?

Putin doesn't act tough. He acts quiet. In the, in the, in the, in the, um, if we're talking about credibility in the terms that it was discussed during the Cold War, where those concepts had meaning

and had implications for, you know, everything from force structure to the ability to deploy at scale without resorting to open hostilities and still yield desirable outcomes, you know, that came down to, that came down to a force structure that was able to produce outcomes commensurate with, you know, the desired strategic interest. it didn't there's really not there's not this like wide range of outcomes from deploying military force you know and there there's a very very narrow spectrum of activity that you know uh will be yielded from that you know this idea that there's some like open-ended creative aspect to attacking other countries is literally senile or and delusional but also again, without a meaningful strategic framework, you know, it's the same, it's the same, it's the same, it's the same anti-logic as Ukraine.

But at least there, I believe the, I mean, at least on the Zionist side, their view is that, you know, they wanted to punish Russia for the L, they got, you know, the IDF got handed in Syria and the Levant. But also they want a permanent, I mean, they want to kill Slavs because they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're over a genocidal hatred. of the people who live there. But they also, they want to permanently tie down the Russians, their own frontier. But this idea that in broad strokes that Ukraine is going to defeat the armed forces of the Russian Federation, then invade Russia, then prevent the armed forces of invasion from reconstituting, then occupy Moscow, then overthrow the government. You're literally delusional if you think that's going to happen.

That's ridiculous. That's a joke. just like these fools who you know one of the reasons why I got contempt not just for the the conservative enemy and these people who act as you know unpaid in some cases

compensated propagandists for this criminal regime but even some of these people supposedly on side the you know part their grip is like dropping hysterical clickbait like it's World War III Trump's going to invade Iran it's like with what

so Trump he's going to invade a country of 100 million people that is the 17th largest country on this planet. And, you know, the armed forces of Iran are going to be wiped out. Hezbollah is going to be wiped out. Iraq's also going to be invaded because sympathetic correlations underarms are going to be then wiped out. Then Tehran is going to be occupied. Then the government's going to be overthrown. You know, it's like you, it's acting like Trump is God or like he's elegant or the

great or acting like the military. the Zog and Milford apparatus of some is like the Vermaac 2.0 or I mean that's a fucking joke you know anybody who talks that way again is either totally delusional or totally senile

yeah we're going to go to war war three without any mass mobilization of men under arms with no strategic buildup of our magazine depth of existing systems no manufacturing of new systems no positioning of those

systems, no staging of those, like, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. No, and no infrastructure to sustain it. Well, it's also, too, under globalism, it's like people, I don't understand, because some of these people are my age or older than me. It's like, did you take a nap? It's like, are you Rip Van Winkle? Did you take a nap, you know, on November 8th, 1989,

and then just wake up yesterday? It's like, do not understand that the 20th century ended? You know, this idea that, this idea that interstate warring, Interstate conventional combined arms warring at massive scale. The idea that this is some normal thing that never, ever, ever, ever, ever happens. Like the 20th century was this bizarre and insane outlier because that became the norm.

That literally never happens. You know, the war period norm. But my myth. And stuff like Bosnia. Yeah. And under globalism, like the idea that the idea that a country like Russia or that China is going to somehow secede from the globalist apparatus is going to build up some World War II style combined arms force then decide for no

reason to attack the U.S. carrier fleet in the Pacific and pretend to fight the battle of Midway. I mean, that's like saying, that's literally an order saying, okay, the British are going to the British are going to attack Washington, D.C., but they're going to do it with sailboats. And they're going to arm their men with muskets. They're going to wear bright red coats when they do it. And they want to do that to burn down the White House to humiliate the colonies. See, that happened in 1812, so it's going to happen again. That's literally in the order of saying that.

But Thomas, the TV has prepared me for this moment for the past 50 years, ever since 1982. we've been at war with Iran for 40 what is what is the what is the 47 years yeah come on come on the these are what you're doing is these are still people who in their minds are like but we beat the Nazis we beat the slow heads I mean you're telling me you're telling me that we shouldn't have done that they were bad yeah but it's like I can I can Okay, okay, what's an American? You said that the Americans beat all these guys. What is an American?

Well, I mean, according to, according to regime. Why should I fight? It's people with the right paperwork, according to regime criminals and the Helots who serve them. But I, but my point is even... Have those motherfuckers go to the enlistment center? But I mean, even if, even if somebody's got these, even if somebody's, I mean, even if you're some, you know, like, whino helot,

it's like again within the bound irrationality of those commitments this is delusion you know and it doesn't as is this idea that you know um within uh you know i mean if i mean i think of this every day man it's like if there were if the regime was smart and if um it basically it basically would have leaned into the way things were going anyway and are being fully right now after 1989. It basically would have dismantled the sort of public bureaucracy and the tax-funded military and then essentially profited by these nominally private entities that nonetheless are basically the government and are different guys.

And they were to replace the military essentially with a dozen Blackwater type outfits. you know, and essentially duplicated that model in a dozen different theaters, you know, while retaining ultimate command and control authority. Like, that's how you do it. You know, and that's how you, and, you know, a sophisticated propaganda apparatus that makes hostile propaganda within the targeted theater appear to be truly spontaneous.

Like, that's how you do it. You don't maintain 14. obsolete aircraft carriers pretend that globalism never happened, that Vladimir Putin is an evil man, and then hurl the population of your proxy state

over and over and over and over and over again at the Russian Federation, and then declare victory every week. Like, that's not how you do it. Yeah, you could literally partner up with the out-groups in these various countries to make...

If you did the way Thomas is describing you could literally have this apparatus pay for itself. Yeah, that too. And it's also, it's, I mean, there's a repeat. Like, like, like, it's some big mystery how the, yeah, I think the British Raj, I think at peak, like not, not counting guys who are serving a crown charter companies or just, you know, like freebooter businessmen. I think there was literally about like 2,000 guys who were in uniform or serving the

crown at direct capacity. in the 1920s, and they were ruling over, you know, like 400 million people on the subcontinent. You know, it's not just some, like, weird accident. And it's not because, you know, Hindus are stupid or something. I, you know, or whatever people bandy about. I mean, obviously, you can't reduce this stuff to memes anyway. But, you know, the, you know, that's how you sustain something like that. and plus two i mean it's just i don't i i will die on this hill and um i think it's yet another

thing people misconstru because of the poisoning at discourse by these sort of gadfly ideologies that don't really exist outside of the internet but people are making some libertarian point when i raised the fact that as structured the regime is decades obsolete you know they they they don't understand that what the government claims, a strategic reality, as well as the reality of conflicts independence, is totally at odds with actual reality. You know, and maintaining the force structure is constituted, even accounting for them, these canceled programs that arguably were progressive in terms of their potential,

in terms of potential near-upy adversaries that were being counterplated within the scenarios, these platforms were devised for like the littoral ships. You, the regime is structured its military apparatus as like a scaled-down duplicate of the Rima era

military. That literally makes no sense. You know, and if you read about how these like command decisions are made, it's literally make work uniform fetishists and delusional people who don't understand that 20th century style of warfare, not only is it, not only is it 40 years obsolete, but even in the epoch, it was this total outlier, you know, and I, um, for the average IQ of a, of a officer in the United States military is 98.

Yeah, that sounds about right. That doesn't surprise me. That's for your officer corps, because we, you know, just like every other place in the civil service, if you legally mandate, you know, the, if you make it illegal to test aptitude in any type of way that may be discriminatory, you're going to get an army full of retards. You're going to get a civil bureaucracy full of retards. And this is what we have. Like, how can't?

But I mean, it's. World War II is kind of an outlier like you're talking about, but even the men that fought that, like, you can go to the Navy. And I bet you you test any single one of those guys in the Pacific Theater. You're dealing with geniuses each number one. That's why people had a big deal about it that Donets at the highest IQ out of all the Nuremberg defendants, except I think Helmar shocked. And, yeah, I mean, being a Navy admiral in the mid-weptainting,

20th century, you had to be something of a prodigy. You know, but I, but I mean, it's just a regime that's not, that doesn't abide the zeitgeist is not long for this earth. You know, and like I said, I'm not, I'm not suggesting some punctuated collapse as imminent. This is, this is not ongoing process that's going to be like a century and a half or 200 years until it comes to full fruition. But, like, this idea that the regime, you know, the regime. regime can continue at naked odds with reality while masquerading as if the 20th century is still

upon us. I mean, that would have been like, that would have been like when the, when the Soviet system was actually exhibited vitality, if the, the Politburo and the Supreme Soviet masqueraded as if there was still a czar. Like, it doesn't, you can't, you can't proceed at odds with consensus reality and physical reality. and sustain, you know, aggregate political power within a dynamic system that is governed by historical processes in both approximate and remote capacity. And like I said, I'll die on that hill. Yeah, it's coming to a point where I started to look at it, like Pete said, about the dysgenic freaks, that, you know, view it as their religion, almost like Trump as a religion, to where they,

to admit any fault or the lack of a plan is similar to, you know, denying that, you know, God constructed the universe to where, like, the truth or falsity of that statement could literally unwind existence. Like, this is how they view the fallibility of Donald Trump. They're literally holding onto a quarter, you know, a quarter millennia ago. Civic national, belief in civic nationalism. That works. That works when we're 90% white. But I mean, these people, they don't, they don't actually have opinions. I mean, that's why I'm always coming out of the point. Like, these people have no take. You know,

they're, and I think a lot of these motherfuckers, they don't even leave their house or they, you know, they, or they live in some shit town. They have no idea what the fuck's going on, even in day-to-day capacities. They can assume memes, and, and, uh, they watch some,

you know, some goofy YouTuber who calls, like, everybody that he doesn't like a Marxist or something. And then they, and then they decide that, like, they have some take.

Like, these people have no take. You know, they're, they're conceptual illiterates. So I treat them like illiterates. You know, they're not,

they're not part of this. It's, it's, it's like you said, Thomas, uh, that they're playing an online MM-O-R-P-G called the online right.

It's completely irrelevant. And the good news is there aren't that many of them or that are under 75 years old. And so it's completely irrelevant. These people are completely irrelevant. Yeah, we have to see them. Yeah, we have to deal with them, you know, from time to time or other people encounter them. We ignore them.

But like, they're completely irrelevant. And so I just can't get like too down about it. It sucks. They don't. Like, we've just got to charge through it, right? So the same thing to people about these like grifters and these like nobody's like, like, like, Princess Dickie Spencer and like that, that, that, that, that, that milo faggot. It's like these guys are, these guys are nobody's.

You know, they, it's, um, vanity fair in the Washington Post. When they declared that like these random theater kids who like play it being the alt-right, which is a term that makes no sense either that they invented are, like, an actual. thing, you know, and it's like if you, if that's what structures, conceptual horizon, you know, you, you, you basically view the world through the lens of system media, you know, it's like, so why, it's like, so why, why do you think you're disincoded if reality to you is what, it's what legacy media says it is, you know, that's why I don't, but I mean, like, I was limiting to Pete a minute ago,

Pete was nice enough to sit on my live stream and help me what this afternoon, like we do on Thursdays. I still, I still, I, I still, I, I still get fools, like, emailing me, you're popping up on my, on my, um, substack threads, you know, saying like, you know, you've got to, you got to get back on Twitter to reach more people and you've got to, like, moderate this. I'm like, who the fuck told you that I'm part of the Jehovah's Witnesses? Or that, like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, like, run for office or something. I'm like, if you think that, it's like, why do you fuck with my condo if you think that way? You know, like you're, it's like you're a total weirdo.

I swear to God too, some of these people, they don't even really consume content. They're so fucking stupid, and their attention span is that of, like, a dung beetle. So, like, they, they, like, they look at memes, like, on TikTok, and they got some, like, loose idea

where, like, they'll, you know, they'll, like, recognize me or some other kind of, um, like, subcultural content creator and be like, oh, that's, that's that right wing guy. You know, right wing is Donald Trump and, like,

making watermelon jokes about niggers. So that guy is this right wing guy. And if you're a right wing guy, you've got to like own the libs by voting the right way. Like I think it's literally like that. I think they don't, I think these people like never read anything I've written. I've like never like listened to anything I've said. You know, it's literally a level of like, you know, monkey me recognition. It's a, it's almost like a complete lack of the ability to conceptualize oneself out of,

outside of their immediate surroundings. outside of their immediate reality because it's like they can't interpret anything you say outside of the lens of what exists now. Oh, yeah. The open their mouth. Structure. You have to do an election. So they're like, oh, well, I mean, I guess Thomas has to like, he's going to have to run for

office or he's going to have to like get the message out. Like they're using something that was not real and handed to them as the lens through which they evaluate any and all new. information, including yours. No, exactly. Well, that's why, too, I mean, we got a, and this is a Julius Evola point. And, you know, like I said, I, I, I've always leaned in that direction in terms of sort of, like, the underlying theoretical paradigm that I abide.

But as I age, I, I take it increasingly seriously. Like, you've got to, and I, I, I'm sure people who hate on my perspective and on me for personal reasons because they're dysfunctional, are going to say that this is just some rationalization for, you know, like a misplaced sense of elite status or whatever, but you

you've got to realize literally like 95% of these people like have no take. You know, they're not part of this. You know, there's always and the people who win in revolutionary capacities, you know, whether you're talking about the NSDAP and the struggle, years, or they're talking about the Leninist cadre that conquered the Russian Empire.

Or what you're talking about Salasar in Cambodia. You're always talking about a cadre structure that is a minority within a minority of Vanguardists, you know, and eventually such that, because this isn't the 20th century, this is increasingly diminishing in importance every day, such that you do need to build at least like a raw majority, at least a plurality within the sense of both is the body politic. I mean, that, that, that comes basically after you've defeated all the other vanguardist tendencies. So, because they just, they just follow the leader. And the leader is whoever, you know, dominates the core institutions in such a way that, you know,

you can impose as will across the entire structure, you know. To where it's beneficial for being a part of that contrary. plurality. I'll go ahead. I'm sorry. I said it has to be that way. It can't be any other way. Yeah. Because there else, there's no benefit of being, so the only way to get that majority is to dictatorially control those institutions because it's the only way that you can confer any type of benefit and raise up other. Like, if you can't raise me up in power and protect me from, you know, the wilds and machinations of the world, I have no reason to follow whatever political program, even whether I believe in it or not.

So basically, Thomas, it has to play out exactly, as you said, because it's the only way it can play out. Well, also, no, that's true. In ontological terms, definitely. But also, in the way people, in the way people develop a conceptual picture, it's both complicated and it's not. I mean, it's complicated because the structures of mind, particularly that constitute. the conceptual aspect of mind and people's ability to structure abstract phenomena and render it concrete,

according to, you know, various reference points, both tangible and symbolic, that's a complicated process. And you're talking about someone who's not particularly intelligent. But it's at the same time simpler than a lot of people make it. You know, it's not the body politics not sitting around spending their day in a library or contemplating, you know, the nature of man is a political animal. And even today with remarkable, you know, information awareness that is temporally current almost to the millisecond. people aren't developing some independent perspective en masse of how political affairs are structured. It's always a top-down engineering of the psychological environment, and then further curating that environment towards particular ends based on demographic.

considerations and, you know, based on contingencies of a historical or sociological nature that, you know, whoever's controlling the flow of information, which is to emphasize, this is the way propaganda works, you know, and propaganda is not axiomatically insidious. I mean, it's become a sort of a synonym for evil or disinformation. I mean, it can mean that, but it can also just literally mean public awareness, you know. And, you know, it's not, and there's also like an instinctive aspect to this, too, man. So I always emphasize when I, the only reason why a random brand like mine has any legs is because I know what the fuck I'm talking about. And it's not because I've got like some like super high IQ. I don't. It's not a question of intelligence in that sense. Instinctively, you can either perceive these things that you can't. It's like having an instinct for playing cards.

Like Stewie Unger, he was the, yeah, he could count cards and he was a smart guy, but a lot of guys are smarting and count cards. Stewie Younger somehow became the greatest gym player whoever lived because he had some weird instinct for the game other people don't have. You know, and systemically, if you can perceive political affairs as they're happening, even before they happen, you know, that puts you ahead. of the pack and I can do that and that's you know again it comes down like how your mind is wired and um this idea that like random people who consume uh memes and uh and legacy media like have

some take i mean that's that's ridiculous and i think that's going to die too like it doesn't as um people have meant the fact that the internet and and some social media and, you know, the ability of the consumer, they curate their own taste, you know, that's, that's killed the common experience of popular culture. And that further sort of like isolates people into these kind of cloistered demographics. Like, it's like that's good. Okay. That means that there's, you know, like a return to a genuine popular culture that is produced,

you know, within the consumer basis of these things, you know, whether you're talking about visual art or music or whatever. but it's also that means that not only is the not only is the legacy media bully pulpit dead because it no longer enjoys

that absolute monopoly but there is it's impossible to it's impossible to curate a singular and monolithic case and point rap music yeah

rap music has completely disappeared yeah overnight within one year here the next year gone as soon as they lost the bully pulpit. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's why, yeah, that's why, like, Hood culture

become, like, in the early 90s, just, like, absolutely saturating the entirety of media. That was a total fucking sciop. There was nothing organic about that at all. Yeah. And that's why it took physical, like, intervention to kill rock and roll, but yet rap music was gone. the second they took their foot off the gas.

No, exactly. It was weird. It was hard to, like, it's as a, I mean, that's a whole, like, weird thing. And it doesn't, and trying, trying to, trying to universalize it across demographics. And across time. Yeah, and it was a, and part of it too was,

I look at part of rap music as being, I mean, obviously it was like a strong ideological catalyst to pushing it. but also like if you don't if you're gonna just like if you're basically gonna like grab hood rats off the street you know guys like method man or something and then just like shuttle him into a studio

where you don't you know you don't even need literally kill him with crack you're just like record the guy like wrapping over some freaking hook that repeats over like you basically just like bottomed out your costs you know just like

it's kind of the same model as like how like reality reality TV you know killed a like traditional primetime programming because like reality TV is like I can get want to be actors to you know perform on camera you know you're going to have to pay them and then I'll pretend it yeah then I'll pretend it's a documentary the bifurcating uh so it's to your point earlier about like you didn't want to self-designate as an elite and really you don't really have to

do, right? The only people that can sit around all day and read books, sit around all day and think about these ideas that are large enough to where you have to sit around and think about them all a fucking day, because they're big, like, just as a fact of the nature of the thing. So you have to have some type of life situation that removes the necessity for grinding labor. Your attention is not being purchased by, you know, a company, whether that be pecking away at a keyboard or moving boxes. Your attention is being purchased for money. So it's only people that don't have a need for that, whether they have obtained a way to financially support themselves or have amassed a certain amount of capital to where they can, you know, support themselves

in perpetuity. This takes time. Like, you need time to think about this stuff. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, and Thorsten Vablund talked about that. And a lot of the heterodox socialists had interesting things to say, including obviously Werner Sombart, first and foremost. But Thurston Vablin, he famously coined, quote, the right to be lazy. And people are stupid on purpose about what that means.

It wasn't saying it's like laudable to literally be lazy. He was saying this idea that, man, time must all be accounted for and that man's natural state is to be idle. So you're really, you're really not harming the agency of the individual in an industrial economy by forcing him to sell his attention and sell his labor to a producer. You know, Vave Vable and very effectively rebutted that.

And that's, and that's very true. You know, right to be at leisure would be a better way of, you know, into, today's parlance because that's what a gentleman was. No,

a man at leisure. A loss in translation like that. But it, but it also, this idea that, uh, yeah, I mean, that this, I mean, that this, that, that, that, that, that, that, that there was a real thing. And, um, under industrial conditions of a value-added national economy, you know, that, like, most employers really were time thieves, you know, and, uh, that's why there, there, there were, there were, there were, profound sociological insights that they rendered, even if the paradigm that those insights emerged wherein was corrupt and, you know, and false. That's one of the reasons I take sociology seriously. It's been strangled for the same reason why disciplines that traditionally would have, in the continental system, would have been lumped into, like, philology.

Like, real cultural anthropology doesn't exist anymore. My British friends that you guys know has really kind of driven that point home to me in the last couple months to where I'm surprised I didn't see it before. But the level of which the social sciences have been absolutely just crushed is really hard to grasp until you really start digging in there. Yeah, very much so. I mean, thankfully, I mean, the university system is dying. And one of the reasons I do what I do is because I think I'm contributing to, the you know we're remedying that because um there's a there's a resurgence in intellectual life and it's it's being effectively you know produced just by guys who you know take an urge in these

things and dedicate their life to it and find a way to monetize uh this is why i draw such a big difference between between streamers and podcasters right or sub stackers because a streamer is basically being paid for his attention. You have to entertain people right then and there. You have to do your dance or whatever it is and you depend on them watching you and you have to be entertaining for them to watch you. It is no different than working a job. You are being paid for your attention. But with podcasts and substacks, I find that basically it is you sit around and you think, doing the type of at leisure things we're describing. And then you condense those, you know, the fruits of that intellectual labor, and you present them, right?

And people pay to support you, very similar to like the patrons of the arts, unfortunately, at a much less in noble fashion. But this is what the population is doing. They are being patrons of things, which if you think about it, and what a noble, what a lord situation was like. Yeah, and that's why there's all kinds of correctives remarkably similar. And that's why black pillars are fucking idiots,

because things are literally intellectual lordship. Right. Well, I mean, in the arts, too, it's a real thing. There's great music being produced, including rock and roll. There's great visual art being produced. Like, there's all kinds of shit that is great, that even 20 years ago was unthinkable

because the bully pulpit was still absolute, even if fractures were appearing therein. Hey man, you're going to sell me. The second time my family was ennobled was for poetry. Yeah. No, that's pretty cool. The Anglo society was refined enough once upon a time to realize nobility

in a man's ability to create poetry. poetry was as good in determining a man's noble worth as martial prowess well yeah because that's that's part of the that's part of the perennial cultural mind and

there's a linear epigenetic aspect to heritage quite literally I agree with this that's why culture is very immortal you know and that's one of the things along with meaningful faith in God and congregational observance therein that mitigates people's anxiety about and lament about dying,

but also cultural productivity is as important as economic productivity or military productivity or anything else. You know, it's all part of the pastiche that constitutes a complete human experience. and that's the entire reason for these community institutions that taken together constitute a culture or a way of life. And that's why the reason it's so insidious that the arts for almost a century

have been totally co-opted by an occupational element whose ambition was to not just pornography it, but to de contextualize and dehistoricize these things and demoralize people. people and ultimately, Robin had their ability to live historically,

which is a kind of... You can kind of see this. Go ahead. In support for modern arts. I have a friend who's a very large art dealer. And he and I were talking the other day, and he said it's overnight people's interest in not like people's interest in go seeing it,

but the people that actually support the arts, like the people that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, you know, to stare at it. the interest in purchasing modern art has almost collapsed overnight. Interesting. Yep. Yeah, it's very telling. Everyone only wants great masters.

That's it. So they only want the classics. It's the only thing people are willing to buy. What? The spell is broken? I think so. I mean, no, he's like, no one will, no one is really showing up. to gallery events for new artists.

He's like, really, he and I were talking about new artists. And we sat and struggled with it for a couple minutes. And we can only think of one, one that was worthwhile, that one artist where we would actually purchase a painting of his and hanged on the wall out of hundreds. There's modern earth that is dope. You know, like the guy who got an appetite for destruction, Like his entire catalog is a, what is it, Williams, I think.

Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, no, it's, he's awesome. And there's, uh, there's random, uh, like street artists here that I actually, actually like. Um, but no, I, the days of, uh, you know, like the, the, the 90s, the 90s, the 90s, the 90s, the 90s, and even into the 80s, this is it kind of, it became too esoteric by the 90s. People were still paying top dollar from art in the 90s, but it'd become the, kind of niche thing, but the days where, you know, you host like a cocktail party in the 70s and there's some like super abstract piece of shit on the wall and some guys like, yeah,

you know, I got paid like $20,000 for that. And everybody's like, ooh, like nobody, nobody's impressed by that anymore. Like even if you're, even if you're into art for all the wrong reasons or a cloud chaser, like nobody gives a fuck about that. Which is fascinating. Yeah. And it's, well, even like, I, when people come visit me a lot, I like, I take him to the I take it to the museum campus.

You know, obviously the highlight to me is, you know, the U-505 submarine and there's like a schuca at the Science Industry Museum and all kinds of cool stuff. But I take under the Art Institute. I got warm feelings about it. My dear friend, Ben, who was an artist, he died really tragically years back. But he was my dear friend from high school and he lived with me when we were in college. I don't really well, he went to the Art Institute. and so I'd hang out with them there all the time, you know.

But even my favorite aspect there at an institute, it's the Renaissance and early modern religious paintings and stuff. And just like that heroic realist style, the color saturation and the depiction of light and shadow, it's completely freaking insane, man. That, you know, and anybody, even early 20th century stuff that I like, you know, like Salvador Dolly his colors might pop better

but it's not the same sort of saturation I don't know anything about visual art I remember I want to say Dilettatah but I know what I like to watch. Check out somebody named artist by the name of Ross Calyendo okay it's spelled

C-A here I'll spell it for you because I also suck at spelling R-O-S-S-C-A-L I-E-N-D-O and I think you will be it's very similar to what you're talking about I-E-N-D-O

Yeah, he uses color theory very, very proficiently. Oh wow, okay. I'd like to think I got a good eye for optics. Like I think I'm good at like picking out clothes and stuff and I think I'm, I think I got a decent eye for like what's going to pair well

in terms of color schema, but I very much like a words guy in a mute. was a guy. I can't draw for shit. You know, it's like, it's the jinx to the lefties. Like, lefties are their great artists, so they can't even draw stick figures.

I'm like, I'm like, one of the latter. I was always trying to learn more about. I was a pretty good artist. To that is a really good artist. Yeah. I know that's, I have always envy guys who can draw.

Plus, too, like, everybody respects. If you're a writer, people think you're a weirdo and probably an alcoholic, like, or like a criminal, all of which made me true. If I'm like an artist, the girls are like, want you to, like, paint them naked and stuff. Like, it's just, there's just, like, way more, like, clout behind it. Yeah.

I, uh, but no, I always, um, I took, uh, when Burden was visiting Mrs. Burns' relatives in Andersonville, like, I took him to the Art Institute and we had a blast. He was really impressed, man. Um, he really, uh, he really, I got to, uh, I got to sit in, in Salvador Dahlody's Rolls Royce a couple weeks ago. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah. It was pretty fucking rad. Yeah. Ross Caliendo, this is great stuff, man. Thanks for the tip. This is the only, it's the only modern artist. If you want to, if you want to buy a painting, I can hook you up with a good deal. It's incredible.

I'm going to brushing up against people, because, you know, um, you know, like Picasso is a big deal in Chicago because of like the Picasso, which is like a fucking horrible culture. And like, in the same thing that Picasso was like a dick kid in terms of politics. Like I've always thought, I've always thought is, I've always

hated the Picasso. It's a fucking piece of shit. And, um, I've always thought it. Picasso himself was trash. Like, I just never gotten into it. Except I do love, I do love the jam by modern lovers on the, uh, Rehomance Outerrick. He was, Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole, unlike you.

Pablo Picasso is a faggot. Yeah, he really was. Can we, can we go back to something that, uh, Thomas mentioned? Of course. Yeah. Thomas mentioned, you know, not being blackpilled and everything like that. You three, you three know me in real life. Am I black pill?

No. Not at all. Okay. If you were like, we wouldn't be friends because you'd be like weirdo who like didn't, like, I mean, you're my friend to my friend. And, you know, I got, I got, everyone who's my friend. I got like huge love for him. But I mean, I, but you'd be, you'd be, it'd be like a detriment to.

hang out with you if you were a blackpilled person. Like people like toxic negativity is a real thing. I don't fuck with people. Yeah, but apparently, he'll still come to do it. But apparently, if you talk shit about the grand rabbi of Washington, D.C., Donald Trump, and how much of a traitor he is and he's not, he doesn't work for, you know, America, that's blackpilling. And you're going to black pill people. That's really good.

These, these fucking helots have, they have. have no take. I mean, like, I... Yeah, they can't conceptualize winning outside of winning presidential elections and owning the Republican Party. Like, they physically can't conceptualize a worldview where the shit that is fucking them over doesn't exist. Right? They're slaves. No, exactly. And their brains have enslaved them. Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, I don't get wrong. They still think, they still think like this, like this system, somehow, if I get control of the reins of this obsolete, system, I'm going to make it work for me.

Yeah. You're going to pay all the black people their welfare benefits? No, no, they're all going back. They're all going back, dude. They're all going back. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's why it's, uh, it's some like weird, it's, it's like weird, it's like weird, it's like playing video games with them.

It's something like weird, cathartic fantasy that, for stupid people that, that, that doesn't actually exist in reality. Like, I don't, but I mean, that's something. also the reason why. You know, I tell people, like, I'm like, you know, look, like, if you're using social media and these online platforms to do what we're doing here, you know, we're to come together with people, you know, basically and have, like, what, it's like a study session or, you know, to bring people up to speed or, like, worthy of this kind of content, you know, by while at the same time,

you know, augmenting your own knowledge base. Like that, that's a worthwhile use of time. Like, beyond that, what you're, everything you should be doing. It's either, you know, worrying towards, you know, the posterity of your long-form stuff or the stuff that's going to be enduring as going to serve, you know, cadres that succeed us, or, you know, building social capital in real space. If you're not doing those things, you're just some guy, like, consuming memes and training bumper sticker platitudes with other idiots and, you know, playing a video game. You know, like, these guys don't actually exist in real space.

You got to look it like that. you know like they're not it's uh it's a difference between a guy who is in some battle theater under fire and some guy who's like literally playing a video game you know and and the the latter trying to have a conversation with the former about the reality of uh of uh you know modern warfare at like fire team level or something you know one thing it's not going to do with the other I'm trying to figure out how they're all dealing with their pussies bleeding over the past week when, you know, Bovino comes out and says, there are no deportations happening. This is the hardest. Tom Blongos brain has ever worked.

Yeah. If it's a really, or it's a really small number. And, oh, by the way, there's like a hundred million ill. eagles here. Everyone knows it on the inside that there's a hundred million people who shouldn't be here. And it's like, they're all going back, man. They're all, go ahead. Go ahead. Tell me, tell me how the fuck you're going to do that. Well, we're going to get our guy elected and he's going to be like the Austrian painter and he's going to, shut the fuck up. Do you control, look at Virginia. Virginia told everybody, do you control how the elections are counted?

no, then elections mean nothing to you. Ding, ding. Well, also, I mean, anybody who, I mean, like, nobody should be voting. I mean, this idea that was also, too, I mean, like, even these guys don't understand too. I mean, I've had to make a point to, I've had to make a point to a Wynow Wignette. I'm like, if you guys actually wouldn't. Ricky Spencer. Like, you'd be the first to go.

We'd have to, like, get rid of you because you're, you're, you're, because you're, I mean, because you're white N-words number one, number two, it's, you know, again, you think in terms of memes like you don't you don't actually understand what you're saying you have no idea what you're talking about you know like you're not it's it's all Twitter posts it's one long it's just Twitter posts and like yeah like and and and and like bullshit they they they they saw unfortunate you know so yeah I have I have a I have something I want to present to you so my my British friend that you all know she is very like hip to like the state of the art whatever in

in various social sciences. And she pulled up a study that apparently has been replicated a bunch of times because I obviously bitch about this a lot. For as much as it bothers Pete, it bothers me how these fucking cock suckers can just continue on it. And what she said to me was, well, and this to your point, Thomas, about how, like, it's something outside of intelligence, right? Intelligence in the IQ scale sense is different from having this political sense of things.

Right. Because the studies show, like, the more intelligent someone is, right? The more that they will use that intelligence to basically twist themselves up into pretzels to preserve their worldview. So increasing in intelligence doesn't actually make you able to, basically decipher what's going on, you just use that intelligence more to figure out ways to basically to rationalize this, to where it doesn't assault your worldview, to where it's not a threat to you, right? The intelligence goes 100% towards pain avoidance. Well, yeah, there's a reason, there's a reason why it's, it's not, it's not a bunch of, like, savant mathematicians who run

everything. You know, like, it's making the point of people, I guarantee that, like, some, like, little worm, like Bill Gates has a high, IQ than Napoleon or Mohammed or Adolf Hitler. There's also like not a single person on this planet who would ever die for Bill Gates. You know, like it doesn't like IQ's a real thing. There's a set

of characteristics and trade should measures but it's a very, it's a very narrow spectrum of human characteristics. It's not some like end all be all thing. You know what I think I don't know why people. It is almost a spiritual sensitivity of what we're talking about.

Yeah. Because that's actually what you're doing you're picking up on basically the subconscious isn't real, but the collective conscious of the mass body of people that surround you. That's how you know what's coming down the pike. That's how you know what is possible and what's not. It's because you're basically doing. Symbolic psychology is a real thing. I mean, it's why I like the Frank Herbert book,

because he was a big Carl Jasper's and guy, and he was really into the, you know, back, psychology had a, like before a charlatans and idiots, uh, it came to dominate the discipline and,

and turn it into this grift. And, you know, first among them, you know, people like Freud, um, before it became this like voodoo garbage.

Uh, there was a lot of really insightful stuff being produced. And, you know, I take that seriously. And yeah, symbolic psychology is a huge aspect of,

of political ontology it's like a type of ESP yeah yeah yeah there's something to that not in the sense of ghost hunters and things

but you know there are I was talking the other day to burden on one of the one of the one's when we were recording about that's one of Herbert books there's on a planet Iraqis there's a tarot deck and and Carl Jung he towards the end of his life

feel a lot with with not just tarot cards but run in the middle playing cards you know that had the conventional paint you know face cards and um

visual stimulus that's you know random within a certain data set um people uh not entirely consciously like gravitate towards patterns that they associate in their mind

symbolically with other phenomena and the more people gravitate to those things presumably you can divinate certain aspects of you know the the public mind and what's what you know what aspects are being excited they're in in terms of extent narratives and things like that

and I take that seriously it's not it's not just mystical mummo jumble or something but um I uh I'm going to I'm going to bounce because I'm not feeling well and I got to eat something, get off my feet. All right, my friend.

So yeah, thanks for you guys. Good time, sir. What's up? I'm just saying, take care. Good talking. No, no, no, yeah. Thank you for us. Take care.

Yeah, we'll catch up in the chat later today or something. Yeah, and let's, we'll try and make the next one a little bit sooner than three weeks so I don't get haranguing on on social media because apparently one of the things social media is used for is bothering stormy waters

I appreciate you guys including you can't know I'd like to talk later I'd like to ideally I'd like to do it biweekly but you guys you guys got demands on it was fine yeah all right fellas let me know when this is posted and please like tag me in the description

like add on substack when you upload it like add my name as one of the creators that will automatically get notified. Why am I not able to do this? Carl is the only one that sub-sac lets me add this to. Well, we'll take this offline. I will have one of you guys walk me through it. Yeah, thank you.

All right, guys. All right, later. All right, man. What are you going to talk about now? I think we should talk about respectability politics and the fact that, all right, I was talking to our mutual. mutual dark enlightenment about this a lot lately.

I'd like to reference the Charlie Kirk assassination and what's happening now. Because at the time of the Charlie Kirk assassination, there was this narrative that got seated into our space rather quickly and then became a means of enforcement. Right. Like if you tried to say this was Israel, you are a kook that's just like Candace Owens and you are helping the left. We believe it is Ross. Was that his name Ross? Whatever. Doesn't matter. Right. This is who did it. We're going to believe the FBI narrative.

And if you try and say that it is Israel responsible in or Israel involved in this, assassination of Charlie Kirk, and you are not a serious person, and you need to be pushed out of dissident right-wing spaces, and you're helping the left, and basically Candace Owens. And I did an audio essay about that, about, I titled it Walking and Chewing Gum at the same time, and which Tucker later went on to basically perform magically with, basically, basically, basically he's been doing that he's been doing that a lot lately exactly what happened i've been quoted almost directly in his newsletter a few times in the last couple weeks and i'm like saying all right guys come on his most recent interview today uh that dropped like there is three stormy waters

like it's like each more each episode that he drops like more and more times can you like point and be like i said that i know where he got this i know where he got this first framing for this. Well, it's his producers and hi guys. We love you. We love you very much. And you are allowed to steal all of the stormy waters takes. You would like royalty free. Ben Shapiro, it is $1 million per frame reference. If he starts talking about feats, I'm going to like really jump out of my chair. Starts talking about what? About feats. I just did a big effort post about footwear and socks and stuff like that. Because I get a lot of questions about my kind of niche preferences because of my hiking

and running experiences. And immediately people are like, why didn't you tell us the story about the foot fetishist that you met? I was like, look, here's the thing is, I don't know how you, how I'm supposed to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination theory seriously, like the official story. All right, Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson's trans boyfriend's name

is Lance Twigs. Lance Twigs? A trans name Lance Twigs, you're fucking with me. Okay? I can see you're fucking with me. I can see that this isn't real. Fucking stop it.

There's no way a trans dude's name is Lance Twigs. That's made up. Come on, stop it. Yeah, and people, people think, like, oh, no, that's, you're being, like, this is cuck stuff. Case in point, the nine Iranian women or whatever that the regime is going to hang or something, right?

Like, there's no, the, the first person to post this is Eli Yaacobi, right? Nowhere else. Is there any of them that they're going to do this, right? One of them was Mom Dami's wife in a wig. Yeah. It's retarded. They made up nine women and the fucking president of the United States, right? That supposedly the most powerful man in the world is now begging the Iranian government

to not kill nine made up bitches. Nine not real hoes. And guess what? They agreed to it. Of course they did. Like, he wants to do what? Yeah, sure. We'll kill nine fake.

We'll not kill nine. nine not real people for you. What do we get in exchange? Oh my God. It seems like a flex. Like all this stuff seems like someone gloating. Right. I mean, it's, it's so, I mean, how hard do you work at your job? Right. Like, you need to tell me, if this was your job, like, because there's thousands of people that are employed to create these type of meta narratives. Yeah. Right. Like, how hard are you going to work? Nobody takes their job 100% seriously. So you're telling me when you're in the in the control room typing up,

you're like, all right, we got to think of a fucking true name, true name, true name, true name, true name, twigs. Like you're going to take, you're going to have some fun with it. It's like the pilots that have to fly all day and then knowing that radar, radar, you know, flight control people, watch them and they draw dicks in the sky. It's no different. But the thing I wanted to get back to is because of seeing it's all, it's all, look, to your point about, you know, it's all this. If you criticize the administration, you're siding with the left.

If you're doing, look, man. Yep. Here's the problem. They know that scared little babies who think that the regime is going to come after them are going to vote Republican no matter what. Yep. Yep. They've got them into that corner.

And I'm not saying that you have to vote Democrat, okay? Because that's the next thing they say, because everyone has to have the Jewish argument of, yeah, maybe you shouldn't be, maybe you shouldn't be bombing Gaza. Oh, so you're pro Hamas. So everybody jumps to that kind of argument because everybody's become so judiized. Um, the, it's, look, man, these. people are not working for us, you know, and I think the proper, you know, when they say, oh, who's the future of MAGA? Is it J.D. Vance? No, you are. You're the only one. You and your friends.

You and the people you're getting together with. You and the people you're organizing with. You and the people who you're looking to, you know, get your buddy elected sheriff of the county or get a friend, you know, elected, try to get them into the governor's office or something like that. You're the future of making America great again. James Fishback. James Fishback is the leading candidate for the governor of Florida. The leading candidate. Dan Bolzarian is running for Congress and will likely win.

James Fishback was an unemployed, crazy person whose only claim to fame was working out a hedge fund for two weeks, and then suing the hedge fund, saying that they stole his trading ideas. Like, he said, don't even wrong. James Fishback is a pathological liar. Like, he's not a good person. But he pulled out of his ass what will likely be a Republican governorship. Incredible. I don't think he's in a way, bad.

I think. Byron Daniels is the only person that they have. I know this because I talked to the person. Remember when I told you, remember I told you I talked to, I had a conversation with a boomer, you know, important political person. Mm-hmm.

This is what he's upset about. It's basically nobody vetted Byron Daniels, who's an absolute disaster. As soon as you basically, like, look into him. Somehow he managed to fucking slink his way into Congress. Well, the problem is... It's Byron Donald's, by the way. Whatever.

Apex Shakur. Apex Shakur. Don Quavius Jenkins. Yes. But basically, like, what is your fucking excuse? Is James Fishback doing respectability politics? Is James Fishback scared to say? No, that...

I think the Jews have enough power, thanks. Or, yeah, maybe we don't do stuff for Israel. Israel's the fucking worst. Like, Israel is actually a detriment to our society. Our relationship with Israel hurts us, right? We have guys on our side thinking that they're doing respectability, policy. So first, I want to say this and I'm going to talk about, I want to say why. why I'm not angry at them, because I'm not.

If Tucker Carlson is breaking down the most popular media figure in America, Candice Owens, say whatever you want, she is the most popular podcaster in the fucking world. That's a fact. And Tucker Carlson is the most popular in America. And if he is breaking down to all of the people that watch him, how the Holocaust is the official religion of America has displaced Christianity and the people that are responsible for this. When about creating this situation intentionally?

And it is the one thing you're not allowed to criticize. And it's the only thing the government is willing to come after you with force and try and disenfranchise you and or throw you in jail. This is the thing you can't criticize. This is the most important. That is the crux of really all of our, like, all of the dissident. If you could like pick one idea that came out of our spheres that if you were to chuck at the popular narrative would do the most damage, it's fucking Holocaustianity.

Oh yeah. That's it. Like Holocaust ain't fucking real. this is a religion, right? They're using it to displace Christianity and also control the minds of America and its political process. Like, this is the one thing. And Tucker, and it's been like the, like people that'll say, like, oh, Jews are being bad. Even they won't touch the fucking Holocaust. And Tucker Carlson is demystifying and taking all the power away from the Holocaust to the largest media audience that's ever existed. in the United States of America.

And there's a lot of guys in our sphere that are just afraid to be like, yeah, well, the Jews did it. It's the fucking Jews. Sorry. You're not allowed to say that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by Jews. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by Jews. You know how to say that. If you do that, you're helping the left and you sound like a kook. I'm sorry.

Is Tucker Carlson a kook? No. What he's doing is legitimizing these ideas. And our guys are missing the fucking moment. James Fishback's not missing the moment. Right? A fucking pathological liar and probably psychotic person that he may be. He's not missing the moment.

He's doing the thing that half of the guys in our sphere tell us that Normies aren't ready for. To Thomas's point, these guys are so fucking online. and up their own ass, that they don't actually talk to regular people. They don't know what the regular person is ready for or not. Tucker does. So I'm not angry if you're listening to this and this sounds like you. Or you were one of the people that told me, told Carl or told Pete that we were helping the left. We need to be pushed out of distant spaces because we're saying the Jews, killed Charlie Kirk. Well, motherfucker, first off, we were right. Ha-ha. And second off, like,

you are, there has, something has interrupted your ability to perceive what regular Americans are willing to take and what answers Americans are looking for. And this is a fucking thing that we are going, this respectability politics, stuff, like this whole narrative about Charlie Kirk getting killed by Jews. This is going to help. This is going to hurt the left. This is going to help the left. This is going to, we only have this small window of time. We have to do this in. We have to point it at this. Don't be a kook. Like, that message went out everywhere, just like the second the SPLC thing went out. This other narrative immediately came down about how all white advocacy the organizations are just FedOps, like we've seen it everywhere. This type of narrative manipulation

is going to hit our spheres really, really hard because, and this is the same reason why I'm not mad. There are guys, a lot of guys, Pete, you know him, Carl, you know them, we've seen them at meetups, right? Like, there's a lot of guys that through no fault of their own haven't really been given a chance to do anything, right? That they can. feel accomplished about, right? They're guys that are, you know, in their early 20s. They're doing all the right things. Like, they're the Eagle Scout kids. Like, they're our guys, right? They're the guys that are stand-up dudes. But our society has removed from them any chance of recognition that they are men. right like there there's no method there's no mechanism in our society that allows these guys

especially because their age especially because what our society is basically chosen how it's going to treat men right these guys are doing all the right things they're trying to be buttoned up they're trying to be stand up guys and nothing exists to where they can basically earn the respect of other men they can't they're unable to get recognized as respectable guys, right? There, any way of doing that through employment or education, right, or entrepreneurial accomplishments, those have all been denied them, right? The type of social organizations and religious organizations that would confer that type of stuff,

that's all been denied them. So they have no way of getting respectability. And if you're 20, if you're in your early 20s, there is nothing. You want more than that. the recognition of other men that you are a man. And because of this, we are going to, a large percentage of our guys are going to be fucking susceptible to this respectability bullshit every single time. Take it away. What are your thoughts? Go ahead, Carl. I totally get what you mean. and it's hard because we really need all kinds.

Like, people serve different roles. Like people reach people at different stages along the way. So I understand some of these arguments for them, but what you're pointing out, Stormy, which is the killer point, is that these people determine that they are the, respectability police because they want to be respected and they want to be respectable. Yeah.

Like, no, that's not how this works. That, you know, you need to, you need to, you need to understand reality and you need to explore things. And sometimes you'll be like, yeah, the official story is, is closer to what I think is probably the truth. I mean, I think we were all kind of like with the Charlie Kirk thing. at first we're kind of like, well, you know, let's see how this plays out. I can't make a, make a proclamation yet.

But then there's enough compelling evidence, you know, that comes out where you're like, holy shit. And yeah, so it's, it's an interesting, it's an interesting quandary because, you know, we have to find ways for these people to do things in real life. that matter. And like that's literally the most important thing that I could say about anything is that if you get together with guys, you don't have the misunderstandings when you're talking face to face that you have online, just inherently. It's just inherently siloing and alienating and leads to conflict and so on and so forth. And so that's really what the answer is.

uh, you know, and it sucks because like, you want to reach these people, but, you know, a lot of people just can't be helped. So hopefully, hopefully these people are developing cadres of people, IRL and they can hash it out there and they don't need to be performative online and the thought police for their enemies on behalf of the enemies. There are, there, generally, I see this from the digging around that I've done is like, all it really takes is like for some person in the system, like a, let's say a, a congressional staffer or something like that, because we, we do interface, right?

Like, it's a spectrum. So our guys are like us to where they're just completely disengaged. And then there are guys that are still involved, right? Like, they're still mentally archives, but they are in the machine. Yeah. And it's just, it's very easy for somebody with a little bit of clout, right? Somebody with that respect to where they can believably confer some of that. And be like, hey, man, like, I agree with everything you're saying, like,

hey, if you could just tone it down about like the Jews and this Charlie Kirk thing right now. Because it, it seemed to be time sensitive. and it's imperative, right? Like, it's the one thing that it kind of dominated the narrative. I would say, like, all of regime efforts in our space. Because, I mean, don't get me wrong. Like, guys, there's a whole bunch of guys you can think of off the top of your head that are just regime spigots, but that somehow exist in our spheres. Right?

All those guys, all at once, were like, you can't say the Jews killed Charlie Kirk. You can't say a Jews killed Charlie Kirk. Yeah. And in that moment where our guys can't really decide, like, what to do, all it takes is just a little nudge from someone that they view as respectable. It doesn't have to be a tacit promise. Our guys lack, a lot of guys lack things, experience, accomplishments that they can stand on their own two feet and say, fuck you. Like, I don't care what you think. Like, that's nice, but, like, I don't need anything from you.

There's nothing the system can give me. What do you think, Pete? Well, I mean, I've been saying this. It's the whole respectability thing. You know, people, you know, I know, I know I've been saying this and people are probably really sick of me hearing me say this. I'll never be sick of it. If you're going to go, if you're going to join the GOP, now I can understand on the local

level, state level, that's where we want to work. but the national GOP, Washington, D.C., the GOP is gay as fuck. Okay? I think it was, it was. Yeah, they're trying to fucking root you out if you didn't attend fucking Shabbat dinner. Yeah, one of my friends said it. Yeah, one of my friends said it this way. He said, um, the Democrat Party promotes homosexuality.

The Republican Party practices it. so you're going you you go to washington dc and i'm going to i'm going to i'm going to infiltrate i'm going to you're going to be working side by side with sodomites probably child molesters i mean you you're telling me that's not going that's not going to hurt you in some way shape or form spiritually yep i mean you you you think you're doing the right thing but you've basically just you've gone to sodom and gomorra and there is not like i'm I'm sorry. You think you're the one person who God's going to look upon and go,

oh, okay, okay, we'll save it because there's one upright man here. Now, that ship has sailed a long fucking time ago. Get out because it is going to be destroyed. And if it's not destroyed, it's going to destroy you. And these people who are like, oh, well, I need, you know, I get in there. You know, and I mean, I can have a career. I can really, I can really make change. really it what did you stop the did you stop the bombing in iran did you stop the one last

june did you stop february 28th are you getting the are you getting mass deportes what are you doing what do you can't have that same part yeah i mean if joe kent is like the head of like this i mean robert f kennedy is starting a podcast because he says he can basically influence the do more in the world with his podcast than he can as the head of whatever. I can't remember what fucking agency he had. NHS, yeah. Yeah. It's like,

the system is not this. The system is designed so that one group, one small group can, or competing groups can, can take control and have control of it. But it's turned out that just one group has control of it. And they're set. They're basically initiating wars.

And they're saying, no, you can't do deportations. But no, you're going to go there and as a staffer and as a clerk. You're going to change everything. Oh, no, I'm going to implant myself there because the regime is going to fail one day. And I need to be here so that I can take, shut the fuck up and get out. Go back to your whatever state you're from to your local area. and take the knowledge you've learned there and start working there. That's the way this works.

That is not, it is not going to change. It may as well, they may as well call Washington, D.C. Tel Aviv now. It's going to die. That's most important thing. It's most, yeah,

it's going to die, but we don't know when. Yeah. And people are like, well, you know, it's an intergenerational war, which I agree.

So we need to intergenerationally, insert ourself into there and make our, own deep state. No, it just needs you step back. By the time you do that, it's going, it's, it's, it's already an anachronism. It's not going to work at that point. It's going to get to the point where it doesn't work. And now you're middle age with a mortgage and need the gig.

Yeah. You, everybody who thinks is like, oh, I'm going to go there and I'm going to, you know how many people have gone, I mean, I remember back in like 2018, this guy contacted me. He's like, dude, I, I, I work. at the biggest, one of the biggest lobby agencies in, in D.C. Can I come on the show and talk? And he talked about his origin story. His origin story was he was working with a guy in Texas. He was working on his campaign. And the guy ran as Ron Paul to get elected. And then when he got to D.C., what did he do? He immediately reverted to becoming one of them. So this guy was like,

well, shit, I mean, I'm here. I don't want to work on the hill. because I'm not going to make any money. I've made some contacts along the way. Let me make some money by going to work for a lobbying group. And he went to work for a lobbying group, but he just came on the show and said, you know, and basically exposed what's happening.

Thomas Massey actually listened to that episode and said it was one of the best episodes of a podcast he ever heard because it explained how Washington works exactly, perfectly. Well, how do you think you're going to go there and change it? How do you think you're going to go? What are you going to go there? and set up so that when it collapses, you can take over. What are you going to take over?

The only thing you have control over is where you are. And D.C. is not your home. Go home. Go home and start working there. There's people there you care about. You can take care of the people you care about better by working within a 100-mile radius of your home than you can go into fucking,

Tel Aviv on the Potomac. Yeah, this is a credibility thing. This is why I think it's hilarious that all the fucking Indians, the new arrivals are clamoring for positions just like the Jews did in the existing apparatus. They don't actually, like, they're not creative or intelligent people, right? So they can only see what exists, right? Like from an investor standpoint, this is a crowded trade. You already know it's not the play anymore because everyone is piling into it.

That tells you that it's not where it's going to be. And that's exactly what they're doing. So like they don't realize that the thing is rapidly, like they can't see where it is going. They can only see where it is. It's like, oh, well, this is the, the, the, the whole. halls of power. This is how you get power. And they don't actually, probably because I haven't been here very long, they can't see the diminishing, rapidly diminishing credibility of the system. Governments don't need militaries. Governments don't need internal police forces. All these things

are secondary to credibility. Once credibility is lost, none of those other systems function. right those are secondary systems that exist to protect the credibility and this is something i i've been thinking about a lot guys is the uh kind of like the black hole nature of credibility and the jews are going through this right now trump is going through this right now right once in a black hole it's kind of interesting uh once you pass what's called the event horizon right which is like the apex point, right? The laws of physics literally flip, right? It's like this relationship between the fundamental forces flip.

So when you cross the credibility event horizon, every single action can only go the opposite direction. Right? So once you pass the credibility horizon, it doesn't matter what you do. Things that would generally gain you credibility now have the opposite effect. They take it away. Right. So the things Trump does to try and regain credibility because he has passed that credibility

point, all they do is diminish his credibility. And I'll dumb it down really simple. The day before yesterday, a captive dreamer that fucking peanut head. faggot was he's a white Somali yeah he fucking is isn't he he's a white Somali literally someone's so ugly your dad wants nothing to do with you uh slave he is a fucking slave but he thought in me criticizing this s plc d oj indictment which is not something like yeah you can celebrate it cool But if you're not concerned with the particular thing that they went after the SPLC for, then you might not understand what's going on.

But anyways, he tried to insinuate that I am a paid SPLC agent. The SPLC is defunct. All the Jewish leadership, like they all left. There's nobody there. It's a ghost. Yeah.

It's a, it was a skeleton that money was still passing through, but it hasn't been any. Exactly. Exactly. But what did they go after it for? White supremacy, funding of white supremacy organizations. And they're saying that that's funding of terrorism. Oh, well, that's interesting. So basically giving money to white advocacy organizations is a crime.

Okay. But captive dreamer, you know, basically quote tweets me. He's like, oh, well, you know, You know, this is obviously a paid SPLC agent, da-da-da-da-da. And I was like, man, like, nigger, you're the guy that gets paid by Israel to post shit. Like, what are you even saying? And I got him a little flustered, and he was like, yeah, so, well, yeah, so I put, I put on those condemning anti-Semitism posts that they were paid promotions, right? I got paid by Israel. How come you won't put in your posts that you're paid by the SPLC?

I was like, whoa, you were what? Oh, I was just joking. I was just joking about being paid by his. Yeah, clown nose on, clown nose off. Yeah, exactly. That's what they all do. Oh, no. Exactly.

Oh, I was kidding. Exactly. But if everyone already thinks that you're a paid Israel shill, then that joke actually. doesn't work. It becomes counter-effective. So if I say, hey, guys, I'm paid by Israel. Because that's such an outlandish possibility, that joke is funny.

But now, somebody else can make the exact same joke, and it's not funny. It actually further condemns them as a paid, you know, Jew show. Captive Dreamer has passed the credibility event horizon. nothing he does to try and gain credibility back works. It always just backfires. Everything the Trump administration does to try and gain credibility back ends up back because once you pass that point, you simply acting at all, brings eyeballs to you.

This is like the whole thing with them trying to distract away from the war and Iran. right by making a big deal out of nothings at home well see that's a problem like yes you want to take away eyeballs from your fuck up in Iran but the problem is is that because you have absolutely no credibility those eyeballs are going to find other stuff that you're not going to want because if everybody's like oh well Trump's fucking controlled by Jews whatever I'm bored of Iran, where am I going to look? And now all of a sudden, everyone is finding out how much money him and his family have been making. Nobody was paying attention to that before. Nobody was even noticing, really, the Trump corruption on the right until he had lost that credibility to where now when our

eyeballs are focused away from the thing that you don't want us looking at, where do you think we're going to go? And this is a problem with the regime. Everything it does, right, reduces its credibility. It's losing legitimacy rapidly. So you trying to embed yourself into this thing so you can be there when it collapses. What? So you can take it over. Like, you're going to take over a thing that nobody finds credible anymore, right?

Like you're going to, it's like taken over the SPLC. Oh, you took over the SPC. You embedded yourself in the SPLC. Well, cool. Now nobody gives a shit about the SPLC. Looks like you spent all that time for nothing, right? Like you're going to take control of a thing that nobody fucking likes anymore. It just, it drives me nuts, Pete.

You know, there's one positive to, I generally, I generally feel like the SPLC thing is generally positive in terms of how it can move the needle. forward as long as people spend two to three minutes thinking about it and the people and we talk to people who can be reached not retards but people who can be reached there's no point in trying to convince

retards online of anything it's it's explaining the criticality of the SPLC's role you know in dog essentially in moving the needle forward in terms of creating justifications for various things.

They were at Elohim City and their own operatives were basically running the op that led to the Oklahoma City bombing, right? And the FBI was running things through there. Oh, wow, the FBI went after the SPLC. That's pretty comical. But the value in it is the proof retroactively in as far as what they were actually doing. Are heads that need to roll actually rolling as related to this? No, not at all.

But it's documented evidence as to what they actually are. And it isn't, of course, the retard explanation that we're seeing from, again, retards who are irrelevant. and the people who believe it are generally irrelevant people, you know, or, you know, particularly over 75, is the whole deal with, you know, just proving that this is the way that they operate and mapping it to now, right? So here, let me give an example. If you were online engaging in any of the politics associated with kind of this area, in the past, I want to say since probably about 2000, well, a lot of it goes back to just after 9-11, but certain aspects of it, it really didn't start ramping up until around 2012. But 10 years ago, definitely, if you were on, like if you were on Gab or something like that, you were constantly dealing with SPLC people, literally people who are branded like Michael E.

Hayden and that carless loser and, you know, shitbags like that, as well as people who are undercover agitators who are looking, basically looking to get information on people internally so that they could turn people. They were trying to get people to click links so that they can ID them, you know, get their, you know, their Google IDs by having them click through to documents and stuff like that. And then being able to tie it back to Gab, for example. And so they've operated this way for a really long time. Yeah, they blew up whatever.

And it isn't that they were manufacturing, like, quote unquote, racism. And in reality, it's like, the Democrats, the Democrats, the Democrats. You have to manufacture racism, you know, just like the way that the KKK is a Democrat thing. We know that that's retarded. But the value of all this is in being able to prove that it's all in op and that what happens is it's basically illegal to organize as a white person in your own interests. and unless you like do all the denials and you put your um you know Earl Winston Sears or whatever her stupid name is you know as your candidate you have to constantly sell out or you're under attack and how are you under attack by law

enforcement who and uh informants and NGOs and the five eyes intelligence organizations who will send people out, you know, on loan to your, your various NGOs. So you have German intelligence, you know, trying to run in these things, you know, paid for by the SPLC, among others, which we know about. And they're trying to entrap you, trying to get you to commit a crime and trying to turn you or to find a retard in your organization who will will just take money, but it's usually associated with entrapment and things of that nature, so that they can steer your organizations so that, you know, Charlottesville, right? Charlottesville was a legitimate thing.

People did not want the monuments to come down and they wanted to literally just be able to talk about it. Like, all they ever wanted to do was be able to talk about, hey, this is what's going on and we don't want this to happen. well, you know, what happens? The whole world moves to stop that from happening and try to turn it into a precipitating event that will allow them to crush the right forever and blame it on, you know, quote unquote fringe people. And so what they do is they take over these organizations to entrap people. It isn't that nobody is interested in speaking up for themselves.

It isn't because, well, I'm a racist, so I want to join a racist organization. No, you want to be able to assert your rights and you can't do that. And so when you try to do that, they try to stop you. It really doesn't take that long to explain it to people. And most people understand it. people have been around for 20, 30 years understand this. People have just started figuring it out. Can learn to understand this with very short conversations.

So that's just me going through like it's not as bad. And we see these stupid narratives, but don't believe out there that many people actually believe this. The people that are putting this out there, they're a tiny minority. of retards who are repeating it or their page shills. Well, I think it's ominous. Go ahead. Well, I mean, I think there are people that are just absolutely diluted and still think that the system works.

That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. And those are the ones I'm trying to talk to. I know I don't do a really good job because I'm not very diplomatic, but I'm trying to talk to the people who still are like holding on to this, you know, 250 year old civic religion that, you know, maybe we can get back to the Constitution one day or something like that.

And it's like, you know, and we're going to have mass deportations and the country is going to be completely bright, you know, just white people and just Protestants and only Protestants from my denomination. It's like, guys, look, you have to deal with reality. This is why people get, get pissed. off at Darryl Cooper. All right.

Darryl Cooper has a bleeding heart for a lot of things and he's explained why. And I accept it. To me, Darrell understands the biggest problem that we have. And that's important for me. But when you see Darrell talking about, when you see Darrell talking about the, like, immigration and stuff like that and how sending out ICE, like they did in Minneapolis is just, it's abhorrent. One of the reasons he's saying that is because that's not how you solve this problem.

And he also doesn't think that this problem is going to be solved. And he's probably right. I mean, we're going through it again, aren't we? Donald Trump in the White House, has the House, has the Senate, and he basically went to work for the Jews. so who's going to be who's going to do the deportations is jd vans going to do the deportations when he get when he gets there in 2008 and in 2028 he probably won't even be elected because he's in this administration so who's going to do that who's how this is getting done so it's like you know

when people you know shit on darrell darrell's just like look i'm trying to figure out how to deal with this with the reality of what it is not this whole like libertarian fantasy of living in Ancapistan in your head that, you know, I phrase I coined, and where you're like you're living your life now and all of your decisions and everything that you think is being based upon the world you want to see and not how the world works, like how the world works right now. Sure, you want to plan for the future and you'd like to see this and you'd like to see that. But I can fuck. guarantee you the world you want that you're picturing in your head is not going to happen.

It is not going to happen. Now, you may be able to set up your personal life in a way that you can live as free as you'd want. But if you're going to, if you think you're going to look out at the world the way it is right now, and somehow by you believing in some kind of utopian dream that you're going to get it? Or, you know, well, maybe if there weren't black pillars out there, we could will it into existence while we're just posting on Twitter. Okay. I think you need to wake up. I think you need to figure out, you know, you need to figure out your own life first.

I mean, I think people have this idea that I'm like black people. that like I live my life in a blackpilled way. No, I don't live my life in a blackpilled way at all. I like my life. I really like my life. I think politics as people who I know and that I trust and that I work with want it to work is not going to happen. So why would I pretend that something is going to happen that isn't,

that I don't believe is going to happen, just so that you feel good, just so that you don't feel black-pilled, just so that you can sit there and keep imagining that the world is going to be something that it's not going to be. I'm sorry, that's not who I am. And if you thought that's who I was, you shouldn't have got on board. You know me. You hear the way I talk.

You know my opinions. You know, I think that this is, occupied, that this government is occupied, and the only way it's not going to be occupied anymore is if it's going to have to fall apart. It's going to have to stop existing as it does so that it, because it was designed in a way that occupiers could occupy it and take over. And that is democracy. And that needs to be destroyed. And that is the only way that this government, the way it is structured right now can operate. So stop living in a fantasy world,

thinking that you're going to make it into something that it is, that it's not going to be. That's not blackpilling. That's just accepting reality. And if you think that's blackpilling, then you're a Pollyanna faggot. And I probably don't want to have anything to do with you. Yeah, like literally none of the voting machines are real.

so the system has to go I think it'll go a lot faster than other people in our sphere just because these things tend to cascade yes right so if it starts going a little bit it starts going a little bit faster

if it starts going a little bit faster it starts going faster still and where are you going to be right if you're doing the thing that Pete's pointing out right trying to will it into existence while having sorted yourself out, you're just as fucked as everyone else. Now somebody's got to come and sort you out. I'll do it. The immigration issue, right?

Like, I mean, Daryl Cooper is also not asking to be the one setting up our immigration policy. He'll be the first to tell you he's a bit of a bleeding, heart, squishy when it comes to that issue. Right. That issue is going to sort itself out. Right. a vast majority of people are going to leave because the government's going to have collapsed. And I know this is something that, oh, you're just basically saying that this impossible thing is going to happen. So the thing that's been around for the last 70 years, 80 years, because the government that we have now is not the government we had before World War II.

Like literally not even close, doesn't even resemble it. It's a different thing. You're literally fighting for the New Deal regime to keep the New Deal regime. 100%. And you can tell you that it's going to be around for forever, and that'll never collapse. Like, really? This little, we have a, we have a welfare system that lets us pretend to vote. Like, that's actually the thing that exists.

So you think this fucking shit show is going to be able to continue to pay all of its gives while it's eroding rapidly? it's capital base, okay, sure. That issue is going to sort itself out. And it's probably, unfortunately, for Darrell, who, you know, cares about people deeply in lots of respects. And he probably will be the first to agree with me, and that it's not a good thing, that it will probably resolve itself violently, as these things always do. So the immigration issue is for us to sort out at the time in which we can sort it out. So in that way, I very much agree with Darrell.

This government is not going to do it. They've fucking straight up told you. They're not going to do it. So when we kind of end, the regime kind of goes in two phases, I think, especially as far as it did in Germany where we've seen it elsewhere. First, it's we have to stop people from finding out the information. And they did that for about 10 years or so. And they became more and more and more and more and more frantic.

But now that everybody knows the information, investing any more time, like once a critical mass of people know the information, any resources spent trying to to stop people from learning that information is a waste because there's more people on the ground sharing it socially, like in person with one another through conversation, then are going to be able to learn about it, even if you get kept everything, if you censored everything in television, in online, in podcasts, like you just took it all down. If literally the entire internet and everything went dark, the environment.

information would still spread almost as rapidly as it is now without you censoring anything, right? Like, this is how exponential systems work, right? You've passed that point of criticality. So you're not going to spend any more time and resources there. You would have to immediately pivot into stopping people from organizing on that information, which is what I think they're doing now, because it's the only move that they can make. Right. Like, not only are you not getting any results censoring, but any money or resources that you invest in censoring

aren't going to do anything. So they're going to stop doing it. And that also means they're going to start doing something else. And the only thing that they can do is the only thing that they will do, which is stop people organize. on that information. Right. Like,

this is when things get a little bit more soft touch. Like, this is actually where it, this is actually the shortest period, right? Like the sensor information, the try and control the narrative period, that's a long period of time. Right. In the scale of how fast these things, or in the scale of the lifetime of, of the regimes of the Jewish people. this bit is the much shorter bit by comparison. It's also the bit that's going to be a little bit scary, I think. Because if their goal is just, if they have to move to stop you from organizing

on information, right? We're talking about IRL things. And if permanently banning your account or suspending your account sucks in a digital sense, what comes next is going to suck in a physical sense. And I'd like to know what your guys' thoughts are about that. Because I think people are going to have to be a little bit brave. Like, if there's any time that you're going to get a knock on the door or get politically persecuted,

we're entering that phase of the game now, in my opinion. I'd love to hear what you guys think. Pete. Yeah, I think a lot of people think that by, voting for a Republican and J.D. Vance getting elected or something like that. That's going to protect them from that. Where, I mean, all you see is like, you know, do I believe Jewish power is collapsing? Sure. Is it going to collapse tomorrow? No. So they're going to go, they're going to go hard. And I don't know that J.D. Vance is going to stand in their way. You know, people have this idea that he, you know, that, I mean,

he's I don't even think he's going to be able to get elected considering just how much of a disaster this this administration is and considering taking into consideration Stormy and Jay's GOP Sampson option. Yeah, I mean, it could I don't know that it could be any clearer that they're destroying the GOP or at least if they're not destroying the GOP, which I don't think they can. they're destroying the GOP to the point where the Romney Bush crew can come back in. And I'm not saying that Mitt Romney or a Bush is going to come back in. No, but they need to stop it from being a vector for nationalism, to your point. Right. So they, you have somebody who is in that camp, you know, I mean, Marco Rubio is in that camp. Sorry, these, you have a bunch of these people who are still loyal to,

that worldview and who are still bought by that worldview, you know, maybe even, you know, blackmailed by that worldview. And I think that is the goal is to get those people back in power. And, you know, it's going to come around in 2028. And I'm not going to make any predictions because my predictions always come wrong or always wrong. But if it is one of those people, you're going, you know, there are people listening to this who are going to go to the ballot box and go, hey, at least it's better than the Democrat and hit the lever for the, you know, for the Zionists, for the, you know, for the person who's owned by Jews. Is there a chance the left, the Democrat would be owned by Jew? Sure. Yeah. Okay. But it always seems like, yeah. I mean, but when has the anti-Semitism, the crackdown on anti-Semitism happen more? Under the last couple years of Biden after, after October 7th, or under Trump.

When has it been more obvious that Washington, D.C. is owned by, is owned by Jews under Trump. So you have to look at these things. And I'm not, like I'm saying, I'm not saying vote, vote for,

go vote for Democrat or go vote for Republican in 2020. Do whatever the fuck you want. But don't pull that, you know, don't push that button or touch that screen or whatever the fuck you do it. where you live thinking that you're like this is a like a protest vote or this is a vote that's going to like protect you from like the work you know oh there's there's bad and there's worse I don't think there's bad and worse anymore I think there's bad and bad or

worse and worse and I mean I just think that's coming oh who's going to be the one who's going to who's going to crack down on me because of my beliefs. I don't know. I'm thinking both sides. Yeah. I mean. And it's going to be worse than it was before because they're more fucking frantic than they are before.

They're more exposed than they've ever been before. The state of Israel is more imperiled than it's ever been before. So the stakes are increasing for them. Do you think they're not going to make the stakes increase for you? Yeah. 100%, man. Like, go into the voting booth, fine. If you think that you have to, right, if you think that actually does anything, right, do we get in, did we get the Save Act?

Do we have any way of even policing our voting machines? Who owns the voting machines? Right. Like, none of these questions are answered. The only questions that people demand are, are you voting for our guy or the other guy? Are you going to vote for the Democrats? Like, do our votes count? are our votes counted correctly?

You can't even get a legitimate poll. People like Mark Mitchell have been run out of the industry. You get polls like, oh, 100% of people who support Donald Trump support the war. Okay. You're giving the system legitimacy. It's the last credit. It's the last legit. It's the last credibility fucking that they have is everyone believes.

believing that they have a stake in it and that fucking ritual is how they do it well the way they do it makes them come out and say it it's partly the ritual and it's also partly hey if you don't if you don't vote for the republican the democrats going to be 10 times worse if you don't vote for the democrat the republic you know if you don't vote for this administration the democrat's going to have is going to institute marxism if you don't vote for the If you don't vote for the Democrat, the Republican is going to institute fascism. Everyone's going to do a fascism or a Marxism, depending on how you vote. I fucking wish the Republican would institute a fucking fascism.

But geez. You actually like that to vote. But that's not happening. I mean, the only thing I care about the 2028 election is I want to see if somebody on one of the sides runs staunchly anti-Israel anti-Zionist. Yeah. That's all I'm interested in. And I'm not even interested in them winning because I don't know that I would trust that they were.

I would just want to see the reaction by the people. That's all I care about. This is the thing is that we're so fucking removed from even having any hope. Because honestly, Pete, just like you said about like, you just want to see, that was the big thing with Trump. I think people were just, people were skeptical the entire time. They voted for Trump, but they were skeptical. And I think that's what he hasn't figured out, right? Like how fast his, how fast his support basically just disappeared when he started basically backtracking on everything?

I think he has the opinion that, oh, well, no, the people believed in me just like last time. well like in between your last presidency and this one people have had COVID and they all watched 2020 happen they watched the rioting in the streets they watched the fucking experts tell them like uh COVID wants you to support George Floyd and if you support George Floyd it won't infect you they watched the election get stolen right there was like before the election there was a complete disillusion with a disillusion with government entirely. And really, I would say in most people's minds, the voting for Donald Trump that happened in 2024 was a skeptic vote. Like, okay, sure, like, I'll vote for you, but I don't really think

you can do anything or I would like to see you do something. I think people are skeptical now. How skeptical are they going to be after the last guy that they rolled the dice? on basically turned around and did everything that he said he wouldn't do. Like, how do you get people to trust the system anymore? Like, 2020 hurt the credibility of the system. COVID hurt the credibility of the system. Now when they do a protest vote, now that doesn't work either. It's just like Donald Trump trying to manipulate the oil markets. It worked at first. then it started working less and now it doesn't work at all

because people don't believe him. I don't know, man. Martin Armstrong has been predicting since the 80s and whoever's listening to this and doesn't know who that is, then just completely disregard this. This will have no weight for you. But Martin Armstrong has been predicting since the 80s

that 2020 is the last U.S. election. Based. Yeah, whether that means, means like 2032 doesn't happen or that 2028 like kicks it off. I don't know what it means and he doesn't know what it means. And it sounded really, really crazy in 2010 when I first heard it. It sounded crazy in fucking 2019. Like seven years ago, that sounded insane to me. It doesn't seem so insane now. And what I think he's... If if three years ago, if four years ago, someone would told you that like random strangers on the street were trying to j pill you you would have been like

get the fuck out of here yeah well not me because i was yacking your ears off about rogers theorem yeah true but yeah four years ago before before october seventh yep 100 percent no one would believe where we were even where we are today nobody would even believe it a year ago to where like random strangers are coming up to you on basically on the street nearest makes no difference and not trying to anti-Zionist pill you but trying to straight up Jew pill you like that's the biggest I think that's the biggest change that I've noticed is before it was like yeah well you know Israel's not really our friend right and now it's like you know, like Jews kill babies and like drain their blood, right?

Like whether or not that's true or not, it likely is. The fact that that's what the normies are trying to fucking red pill you on is a drastic difference because that means the normies have noticed race. Yep. And I think that's the biggest difference between 20, even 2024 election and now. is the awareness of race. And it's the fucking Jews, funny enough, that's done it. Because you can't notice the fucking Jews as other without going, oh, well, wait a second.

Why do they hate just white people so much? Like, I don't know, Pete, I don't know if that's been your perception, but, like, every time a Normie's kind of like, try and Jew pill me, which happens quite a bit. And I just be like, and I tilted towards race. like yeah like what do they have against us what do they have it's like they hate white people they like yeah they fucking hate white people yeah it's obvious and um and then you can even get them to um if you push them into how um jews do the counter jihad where they try to they try to get you to hate it's like oh you know it's really the muslims it's the you know look we're surrounded by muslin israel's a small country surrounded by Muslims

there's there's 1.5 billion can't Israel have its own country the Muslims have all these countries there's 1.5 billion Muslims how many Jews are there? Yeah there's going to be more fucking Muslim countries than there are Jews that's basically geography so shut the fuck up with that argument it doesn't work on me

but they try to get you to hate Muslims and it's like oh well look Muslims are just natural terrorists all they want to do is kill Jews okay why if that's true why and no one wants to answer those fuck no one wants to either ask that question or answer the question it's like i mean i'm i'm sorry for knowing my history i'm sorry you know i experienced the guy i was at a party friend of mine's house did not want to rock the boat but this fucking jew told me straight to my face that Palestinians don't exist That land was empty before Jews started going there.

And I'm like, you know I have a fucking gun, right? You have to assume I have a fucking gun on me. I just, I mean, these people are, how do you fucking deal with people like that? They basically, they are exterminationists. They're lunatics. They are exterminationists. They want to kill everyone who's not them. And then as I forget, I think it was Michael Collins Piper pointed out.

Yeah, but Michael Collins Piper pointed out, he said, I mean, even if the Jews killed every, like every non-Jude, they just kill each other after that. Because, I mean, that's how, that's their attitude. I mean, and think about it. I mean, if you have, if you have two thousand years. That was the real punishment of the concentration camps. We forced them to only interact with one another. If you have 2,000 years of a, you know, I mean, assuming that this bloodline is 2,000 years old, let's assume the Khazar theory doesn't exist, that this is one continuous bloodline.

Can you imagine 2,000 years of not being able to get rid of your sins, to expiate your sins, that that builds up for 2,000 years? And you deny Logos, and you killed Christ, and you like, burned down 40,000 churches in Russia and killed, you know, tens, you know, probably 30 or 40 million Christians. And you have a war going on right now that you orchestrated where Christians are killing Christians. How are you not cursed? I mean, and I mean, that's, I'm choosing the word cursed and that's not the word I want to use. It's just a word that, you know, you can use in public.

How are you not the most cursed? It's remarkable to me. I don't understand how people, see, this is the difference. The difference is that I see organized jewelry as civilization destroying force. There are people that I know that just see them as more wealthy Somalis, just another interest group that's taking advantage of us. Well, you don't know your fucking history like I do.

Yep. You cannot understand the last 3,500 years of history, but you cannot understand the last 2,000 years of European history until you understand the JQ. The 2,000 years of Christendom. You do not understand it at all, until you sit down and I'm not trying to blow my own horn. I'm not trying to promote my own shit.

124 episodes. Go listen to it. Go watch it. It's on Rumble. It's on Odyssey. All 124 episodes. I think a 124 will drop on Saturday. Alexander Solzhenycin, pretty sure he was married to a Jewish woman, wrote about what they did in Russia.

Go. Tell me if you do not see. the parallels. You're lost and you need to get out of the way. You're not, you know, as, you know, Thomas says, you're just, you're not in the game. I'm very happy that a lot of our cultural leaders, like guys like Tucker, and just a lot of people I bump into on the street that would have otherwise been like atheoid, you know, interactions. have you guys also noticed, like, along with the J-pilling, people are also trying to, like,

spiritual pill you or metaphysically pill you? Right? Like, the normie realizes somehow, they have no way of, like, putting it into words. They can't contextualize it. Some will contextualize it, you know, by just kind of, like, mimicking, you know, Tucker and his framing. but I'm getting the sense that people are starting to recognize that there are metaphysical forces at play. Yes, very much so. Yeah, you too? They take a variety, it takes a variety of forms.

Having a lot of people hit me up with like astrology and numerology stuff also. Like out of out of, and there's one of the challenges that I have is that like, yes, people, believe in it. Yes, I think that there are some influences like on certain kinds of things and yes, uh, our enemies believe deeply in

these things. And so being able to draw these parallels to understand, you know, what's making it happen. Could be people doing it, you know, along these timings. Yes, absolutely.

Uh, we certainly know that they were all excited about, you know, Purim and some alignment this time, like three planet alignment, et cetera. But in general, yes, people are very much. I've had more guys come to me and be like, I realize that evil is real and so God is real. Like I've heard that more people than ever in my entire life in the past year. Yep, same. Year and a half too wild.

and it's accelerating. I don't know if this is the place, time of place for it, but if you want me to break down astrology, like astrology isn't what people think it is, right? And the reason why it's, it's predictive in broad,

broad ways isn't for the reasons that people think it is, right? In the same way that like thinking a clock is, you know, predictive, but not realizing that a clock is just measuring time. Right.

So when people of ancient times looked at the stars, that was the clock that they had access to. Right. Like all of the assigning, you know, deities to this or that or whatever, right? That's backfilling, right? That's retconning to try and help them make sense of why the clock in the sky was, you know, telling them things. Right. So time has a geometry like every other spatial dimension. That means it has curves. That means it has shapes. That means it has angles and lines. It has a geometry. And what that clock in the sky allowed them to do was recognize the patterns in the shape of that geometry. They didn't need to know why things were happening. But God from creation,

encoded patterns in all of the dimensions. We see them in our spatial dimensions, right? We see the fractal patterns that emerge in every bit of living life, every bit of non-living life, right? A rock structure is just as fractal as a leaf's structure. These are both fractal forms of geometry, right? they are the geometry of the spatial dimension, and there is a fractal geometry to our temporal dimension.

And the only thing that they had to measure the geometry of time, the flows and lines in it, were the planets, because it operates, I don't know if anyone's noticed this or not, Time is long is big. It's a very long thing. And human beings only represent in our life a very short period. So the only thing that they had that was big enough and long enough was the planets and the stars.

Right. But if you give a bitch fucking chicken bones, she'll turn it into divination. Sorry, ladies. It's just something that you do. You guys trying to turn everything into fortune telling no matter what it is. but that's why astrology is predictive in some capacities. And that's what it's usually very indicative when you look at it retroactively, right? Like when you backtest it, right?

Because it's measuring the shapes of time. Funny enough, Pete, I shared, the only thing that does scare me is about like a certain personality and personal components. I shared this with Pete. Carl, I don't think I shared it to you, but a friend of mine put in my birth chart into an astrology AI and basically made it freak out in a way that this person who does this frequently has never seen before. And it's literally in this printout or like in the thing

is telling me I need to stay away from nationalism. And that... hilarious. Oh, bro, I'll share you with you. really funny. It's basically astrology Hitler. But yeah, so it is it is something that people are going to pick up on. It's the same thing that they're picking up on in like with men like I I'm seeing evil places. Like I can't describe these events or these behaviors any other way. And I think that at the same time as racial consciousness is starting to emerge.

against white people in a big way. This is really, really good. And like Pete, I don't know how anyone could think that you're blackpilled because you have been talking about this very thing for fucking years. Like the desired end state where we need to go, that Pete's been saying we need to go here for forever. We are almost to that point. And people think that Pete is blackpilling?

Well, because when we get to that point. Well, because when we get to that point, we're going to have to do something. We're going to have to work. And that's what people don't want. People do not want to work. People do not want to grow their own food. People do not want to go haul frigging soil and dig things up and build beds and do all sorts of things like that. People don't want to hear that that's going to be.

That may be a part of the future and it may be a big part of the future. They don't even know their neighbor, let alone help him build a. shed or a barn. People don't want to, they don't want to know that there's pain coming, but there's pain coming. And you're just going to have to deal with that. Your fucking ancestors dealt with that.

I mean, think about 150 years ago, think about what dental, like dental. I've had dental surgery. I probably had like five or six dental surgeries. I can't imagine what it was like 150 years ago for like dental surgery. You know, if you had a, if you had a fucking toothache,

yeah, I had surgery last year for kidney stones. You imagine being in the middle ages and you get that pain kicks in. What do you do? Your ancestors live through this shit. And now you're just so fucking, you're so much of a pussy. You're like, you're scared that you might actually have to, like, grow food or get a couple chickens. Or you might have to, or God forbid, you might leave the house and go. organize with a bunch of people and figure out exactly how you're going to get through some hard

times. I mean, God forbid you would do that. I mean, because I mean, you're not post what you mean, I'm not going to change this by posting on Twitter. Dude, I'm one tweet away from changing the world. I'm one tweet away from defeating my enemies. Pete, not only are we going to go through pain. We deserve every bit of the suffering we are going to go through. It has to happen. It is right for it to happen. Like, people are going to cry about boomers. Like, yeah, you want to know what? We are paying for the sins of our fathers. Right.

But God will be paid what he is owed. Someone's going to pay. And that's the only way we're going to enjoy any of his blessing ever again is if we pay the fuck up. So yes, the boomers skirted on the bill and left us with the debt, but it's a debt that's owed, and it's going to have to get paid. And we'll come out better for it. Like, we will, we need to pay what we have, like, the debt that has accrued for the last hundred years. And that is the only way we're ever going to enjoy God's favoritism again, because we had it. And that's going to take fucking pain. Pete is right.

Can I ask you something? It has to suck. Fellows? Yeah. Sure. Have you, have you ever felt anything that felt genuinely rewarding, that was genuinely satisfying that didn't require a shitload of pain, which drove growth, which drove development, which drove humility, which drove appreciation? like every it's it's nice one thing yeah only one thing i can think of and that's charity yes like genuine genuine yes i am going to go out of my way and i'm going to take care of you know let's say a very big in my most recent instance i spent a large amount of money paying for an

unexpected expense of a person um i only know tangentially but it was just very sad And I got more happiness out of that than I've gotten from buying anything. And it lasted a really long time. If I buy a new car or like a new thing, like, I'm happy about it for like a day. A new watch. Like I'm happy about it for a day, maybe. But when I pay for something like that, like it made me smile for like a fucking week, man.

Yeah. But that's the only thing I can think of. I think that I would say it's safe to say that is the only thing that will make you happy outside of what you're describing, Carl. Yeah. Because I think about all the stuff that I thought I wanted when I was a young shithead and like, I didn't deserve any of it. Like, it took so much for me to actually grow.

and develop as a person to be able to appreciate a thing. To, again, to your point, stormy, like, someone gives you something for free, and it's just, like, something that makes your life easier. Like, it's, you don't really appreciate it. I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying that if someone gives you charity, people who receive charity, don't appreciate it. There's some that don't, but, um, but in general, like, if something is going to come from me, the only thing that

that is good long term is stuff that is that is suffering and is hard and is difficult you know it's the only thing you're proud of it's the only thing you're proud of yeah other than but that was a lot of work and that was hard

a lot a lot a lot a lot of sacrifice and so you guys want to join you and not join it yeah yeah I'll tell you guys a story one or when we're off there. Yeah. You got to. I don't like to talk about stuff like that publicly.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's the easiest thing we can do too. I just got done rattling off about how our young guys are hyper susceptible to people leveraging respectability against them nefariously or dishonestly. You know, it's a great way.

to overcome that and make yourself immune from that. And also give yourself a huge leg up in the world is to do exactly what Carl's talking about right now. Right. Like even something as dumb is like building a barn, building a stone wall, building a greenhouse. These are things that don't cost any money

and are very hard to do. I would recommend building a stone wall and a barn and learning timber framing and stone construction back to back. It doesn't have to, like, the one thing I can say about having the success that I've had, I guess, like financially or whatever, is that I got to buy all the things,

that I thought as a young man would make me happy. And none of it did. So I was immunized from that. I was still fucking miserable. Like, you can be suicidal with a lot of money. I hate to, hate to break it to you. But all of the things that you think you want, unless they're like real things like we're talking about,

they will mean nothing to you. You work all this time and you'll save all this money and you'll buy this thing that you're super excited about. And in two days, it'll be as if it never happened. And all that time and all that work and saving is gone. You saved it up to buy a thing that you were really excited about. you thought was going to make you very happy. And two days later, it's gone.

Yeah. It doesn't make you happy at all. And that's the biggest trick of it. It really is. I've seen to notice people a lot less materialistic, which is really good. Like, just regular people. And times haven't even really gotten that tough yet. I think the pursuit, basically opting out of,

the material consumerism. If a person's done that, they're ready to hear what we have to say. And they may not even consciously know that they're doing it. Right. Like just, I notice this in myself. I notice it in others that I see just the vacations, the material things just aren't exciting people anymore.

I don't know if you guys have seen that. Like the status purchases, right? that they're almost, I don't see any of them anymore. Outside of real estate, like people trying to, you know, buy nice houses, usually with like a bit of security in mind or some land. Outside of that, I'm not seeing any of it. I would love to see what, you know, the luxury car sales have been. I'd love to see what, you know, the entry level Rolexes are doing.

I'd imagine they're not very good. No, they're not. It's funny, I know all these, especially like retirees who have been buying cars like crazy. And it's almost like it makes them miserable. It's really strange, but like, they're like, uh, you know, and I'm like, I drive a 14 year old car that I love. And it's like it, it just, it just works for me. It's good enough. it's fast enough, you know, it's responsive enough.

I just, you know, it's, it's absolutely wild to me. These are guys that are buying. I can completely understand because that's, you just describe my life right now. Yeah. I have too many cars and most of them make me miserable. They, they buy a brand new car that costs a ton of money and they're just like, ugh. And like, one of the guys, I was like, how's your car?

And he's like, I took it back. I was like, what are you talking about? You take it back. Was there like a penalty or anything associated with it? Yeah, it was fine. It just wasn't worth it. I didn't like it. Too many screens. You know, something was annoying about it. It wasn't, it wasn't instinctive. It costs too much. I hate the payment. I'd rather pay, you know, X dollars to get out of it. All right. Well, I mean, you know the, um, Stormy understands the South Florida mentality when it comes to, uh, status purchases.

Yes. I remember back in like, man, this was in the late 80s. I remember I was working in a gas station, you know, like right out of high school and everything, right? But like in between that and college. And this guy pulls in with a truck, a flatbed. And there's a brand new Corvette on it. And I was like, oh, what's wrong with that? He's like, oh, nothing.

Nothing. I just bought it. And everything. And I'm like, really, man. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. He's like, yeah, yeah. He wasn't happy about it. Like you would think you just bought this, you know, this new vet and everything and you'd be, you know, ecstatic. You'd be excited. You'd be like, I can't wait to get home to it. He wasn't happy about it. Yeah. You would see,

I saw a lot of that, you know, being in South Florida, you get to experience a lot of people who have money and, you know, even old money, but, you know, South Florida is also a lot of new money. Yeah. And yeah. They're driving around and it's like, oh, man, you know, nice car. I remember this guy had an Excalibur. And, you know, I've always liked the Excalibur because I love the classics, things like that. I was like, man, that's really nice and everything. And you can't get them to smile and talk about it.

Like they're excited about it. It's like it's almost, it's a fucking burden. It's a burden to them. You know, I think I've seen a lot of people just pairing. down, you know, getting, you know, my truck's 30 years old. My car is 14 years old. And I've just seen a lot of people, they're just paring down, even houses. They're looking to sell their big house and get something smaller, things like that. And, you know, just have something reliable. It's almost like people know something's coming. But, you know, that's going to be area specific too. You know, I mean,

I live around a lot of people who, most of the people I live around are very down to earth. They're not like, you know, chasing, waiting for the new, you know, waiting for the new generation of Rolex to come out or waiting for the new F1 50, the King Ranch that they're going to spend 110 grand on. Nobody around here, nobody I know that I hang out with does that. and when you meet people like that, it's like they burdened themselves by having that thing. And if they get rid of it, you notice like an attitude change. You notice it.

It's like, oh, that's like a weight off of my back. I mean, I haven't had a car payment in well over a decade. And people don't realize just how much of a burden a car payment is. And, you know, and, you know, mortgage is bad enough. But, you know, that's the one thing that you can make an argument that it's like, look,

I'm not going to be able to come up with three, four hundred grand. But, you know, once they get out from under that, you know, if you know someone who's paid off their mortgage, I mean, they're, they're walking different. Yes. People don't. There used to be parties for that. Oh, yeah. The mortgage book burning parties.

it is a debt i mean and and you know forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors i mean this people do not realize what a spiritual burden that is that they're taking on and you know i encourage i encourage people to buy land you know but you can find a very you can find a lot of land with a you know a humble house on it that is well built, maybe 100 years old, but very well built. We'll survive a hurricane, you know, we'll survive a tornado or a hurricane. People have just been, their minds have become so judiized by, you know, hey, I got to go into debt if I'm not in debt. You know, it's like, oh, no, man, no, I mean, no, when it comes to tangible, when it comes to the things you need

to live, no, you want to be able to, you, you want to be able to, You want to be able to go, yeah. I mean, all I have to do is take care of the upkeep on this. And when you know that that's all you have to do and you do have to pay for the upkeep on something, you treat it better too. So there's more responsibility there. And that's a lot of what we're talking about is just responsibility. You have to take responsibility for yourself.

No one is coming to save you. You're not going to vote your way out of this. So when I say that, people are like, oh, you're calling for revolution. I'm like, no, just you're not going to vote your way out of this. So you're going to have to find another way to deal with it. I do not condone violence because, I mean, initiating violence against what people, what most people seem as a legitimate authority, you're retarded. I do not tell people to commit, you know, to commit crimes.

But you're not going to vote your way out of this. So you're going to have to figure something out. And, you know, it seems like that people, just don't want to do that. They just want to live. And I'll tell you, honestly, a lot of the people who say that I'm blackpilled, I know that these are people who, you know, aren't married, don't have the job for the degree that they have.

And I know it's just projection. But I want what's best for you. And what's best for you is get to. together with me and let's talk about a way forward and, you know, forget about, oh, if we just get the right person in office. Sure, maybe if you get your buddy elected sheriff and mayor of the town, you work towards getting him into the governor's office, maybe, you know, you could throw some patronage down your way and take care of you and everything. But I mean, Washington, D.C., Tel Aviv on the Potomac. Come on, guys. Come on. I'm here for you, man. I'm here

for anyone listening to this. All you tell me people, people contact me all the time to tell me their problems. And I try to help as much as possible. A lot of times I can't help because, you know, it's just, it's out of my hands. I, you know, I can, as much as I might want to help, I might contact somebody else who might be able to help.

They may not want to help. And, you know, that's really out of my hands. But I will, I will sit with you. I will cry. with you i will do anything you you know you need you know what makes what gets you through it but we're all going to have you're going to have to do this on your own you're going to have to do this and you're not going to be able to do it on your own so you're just going to have to get with other people and that means leaving the house and that means putting down the fucking phone yep funny you say that i just got

rid of the only car that I had a payment on the other day. And like, I actually noticed it. Like, I legit feel like I've had, I've had you got rid of the eight cars. Yeah, I did. Oh, wow. I bought a land cruiser in cash. Hell yeah. It's a big one. Yeah. It's a new, uh, whatever, like the LX, uh, 570. The land crusher. Yeah. The prettier land cruiser.

Yeah. I just was like, it was just bugging me. And you do feel better about it. Like immediately. And funny, like Tom talks about Evela a lot. Evela was the guy that really hammered home for me. Like, you have to make yourself a spiritual fortress. like an emotional fortress

you need to basically be in a castle in your own mind like nothing it doesn't matter what the news says it doesn't matter who gets elected like none of that matters none of that should alter your inner state none of it should even raise your blood pressure

one tick. Like in order to be ready for what comes next, you need to be immune to all this stuff. And there are certain material things that are the, that can, that will be able, that would pull you out of this state, right? Like material needs for, you know, safety and sustenance.

But if you do the things that Pete's talking about, about, you will be able to be in a state physically to get where Evela says you need to be mentally. Right? Like you need to be unfuck withable. And that's the type, like, people always, like, you talk about like, people think that they're just going to will something like will change to happen. Your will doesn't mean anything.

in the state that you're in. Right. Like, you can't even stop scrolling or stop the timeline for making you feel different things. Like, you're not in control of your emotions. The phone is the events that are happening in Washington are. The events that are happening in Iran are. Like, that is controlling your emotions. What are you thinking about?

Well, you're thinking about what's happening? in Washington. What's happening in Iran or what's happening about this election or what this crazy leftoid is doing? You don't have any willpower. I mean, literally, not willpower like, oh, I'm going to decide I'm not going to eat any sugar. I'm not going to pick up a cigarette. That's not willpower. That's habit. Like actual force of will requires sovereignty. in your mind. The person that is sovereignty in his mind, that person can will things to happen. Because he gets to use 100% of his brain. What is he thinking about? Whatever he wants to think about. Nothing can distract him. Nothing can alter his emotional state. No intrusive thoughts

are getting in. Nothing is distracting him. People can't make it fight. minutes holding a single thought in their head and nothing else like if you do that you'll have actual power you will be able to will things into existence if there's enough of you but like getting to that state requires doing what pete is talking about anyways right you're already removing yourself from the system anyways right so in men doing what it takes to be the type of person that Julius Evela is describing will give you the situation that Pete is describing. You will have a political revolution when there is a large enough number of men that are worthy enough for that to happen. You don't get to change your

political situation, your cultural situation, by remaining the same. same. If you are not a different person, a better person, a sovereign person, then how do you think that any of those things are going to happen around you on a broader scale if you can't even do them internally in your own life? You want the United States to be sovereign? Can you get yourself to be sovereign? You want to exert your will politically? Can you exert your will anywhere else in your life? Do you have control over anything in your life? And I think for a large amount of people, the answer is going to be no. Right? Like a person that lives, I mean, Pete, the amount of stuff you were doing, like, the amount your garden pulls down is insane. Like, he doesn't have to worry about food. He just has to upkeep his house and God literally gives him and his neighbors everything they need to survive.

You were telling me, I don't want to put you on blast too much, but all of your meat needs and dairy needs are within like a mile of your house. Your garden is putting out a crazy amount of food. Like, you have a complete setup. We still have food in the chest freezer from last year.

And this year we're going to have to get another chest freezer. are just nice I'm getting another chest freezer this here what a coincidence be it's awesome if you're in a position where your garden is producing literally hundreds of pounds of things and your neighbors have thousands of livestock and you have relationships with them and your house isn't like a debt burden that forces you to go be an attention or a labor slave somewhere else like you now have the preconditions where you can be mentally and spiritually sovereign But if you don't have your shit together. Yeah.

No, because you don't give a shit. What's happening in D.C.? Like, I don't care. I allow nothing to affect me here. Within this space, like, nothing can get, like, it's like a fortress. You know, it bothers that person, nothing. Unless he decides that it's, it is going to occupy his attention. But people can't.

even decide for themselves what to occupy their attention with. The timeline tells them. The algorithm tells them. The president tells them. The juice basically tell them. They tell them what to think about. They tell them what's important. What needs to be talked about right this minute. You can't focus any academic agent actually was the one that pointed this out. Like if you're getting mad you're losing, right? Because the regime will just throw up literal rage fuel. And now it controls what you're thinking about. Like, you don't ever get to tunnel down on like, I'm going to do this fucking thing. Like, we are all going to work together to achieve this fucking objective. Because the regime moves the current thing. And it controls by moving

the current thing about what we're outraged about. Everyone's attention shifts with it. everyone is forced to react to the new stimulus. So you don't ever get to sit down and just obsess about something until it's done. You don't get to sink your teeth into anything because it's constantly moving. You're constantly getting basically swatted at by stimuli. And it's true. I think that's a good place to leave it, boys. Sounds good to me.

I got to go get some stuff done. All right, boys. It's been fun. Until next time. Don't disappear. I want to tell you something when we... All right, yes, please. You got it.