The Pete Quiñones Show - The Inquisition Part 5 w/ Astral, Thomas777, J. Burden, Stormy Waters, and Pete

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

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gift vouchers. Trump on Dunbiog, Kush Farragge. Welcome back to the Inquisition. The first episode after Trump is officially our president. And Thomas Pete and Stormier are here. And Jay Burton has joined us once again. Jay, thanks for coming on, man.

Yeah, thanks for having me, man. All right, dude, we got a lot to get to. In particular, Thomas was at the inauguration. So I want to get a I want us to get a full report from him what he thinks about the inauguration, what he thinks about Trump's delivery, and also just a report for the homies on the ground in D.C. They linked up with. I don't know what the crew's like out there, but saw some stuff on Twitter. It looks like you guys had a good time. And then in the last week, there's been a flurry of activity.

And I think, you know, if I may, I think we're some of the most vindicated guys on the right who've been talking about Trump. because we're, you know, critical when we need to be. We're supportive when we need to be and we're realistic. And we're not blackpilling. And I think based on what we've seen in this last week, man, a lot of stuff we've been predicting and a lot of the angles we've been taking on Trump were the correct ones. And Stormy is like the most vindicated guy I know because he's been talking about the same

couple things for actually some of them years now. And a lot of them were coming to pass. We've got a lot to get to. So if you guys don't mind, Thomas, if you'd like to start, share your thoughts. I don't know anything you want to say on your trip to D.C. I think you were at the last inauguration, if I remember correctly. No, I was that last time I was in D.C. Other than on a layover when I've been traveling was on January 6, 2021.

Oh, no shit. Yeah. I mean, I've been there since, but just hanging out at Union Station while I wait to get on the bus to the train or something. something I uh no I had I had I had a good I had a good trip man I had a lot of fun and um queen thug shaker rode with me out there and she's a lot of fun like uh it's so weird fun in the Amtrak but uh um we didn't raise any hell or anything but it's nice to have a nice um traveling rapy but I they I thought that Trump's people went a little overboard and shutting down that

district. Like when, I mean, I'm hit to the fact. He got shot and stuff. And I'm sure that some of that came from a security detail. But like, like, when we disembarked at Union Station, like, there was like police and, like, guardsmen everywhere. And it was a bad look. It reminded me of four years ago. And that's not something that should have been telegraphed. But it was very positive energy overall um i've never in my lifetime and i've been to dc a lot going back to the 1980s i've never i've never um i never felt um as much of a you know kind of like a high energy like celebratory atmosphere as i that's what i wanted to hear man yeah yeah yeah and i said yeah i was very positive and uh you know very there was a ton of people who

I mean a huge number of people and like everybody pretty much everybody on the Amtrak and everybody on the Greyhound on the way back like that's why they'd gone there and so it was very good and I got to

I got to I got to see the Virginia OGC guys and and just like a lot of random people like when we disembarked at the Union Station like these like random guys recognize me and we talked to them for a minute that was kind of cool

and um i was going to crash this uh ball but i decided not to because they were shouting out like dickhead stuff about like if you don't have a ticket don't come here then i then i found out that then i found out that like rabbi breadmold was there and so was that like thernovich faggot so like i probably would have said something stupid anyway and gotten removed but um it was it was a lot of fun man and i um I think a lot of positive things are happening.

I mean, some of that just knows the natural resolution of some of these crisis modalities in the world, especially the conflict paradigm and Ukraine in Gaza. These things are reaching a natural conclusion, even if

Trump hadn't been elected. But I, you know, I, regardless of, um, regardless how contrived a political processes are in America these days. For all practical purposes, there's been no executive in the last four years, and that's disastrous. I mean, that's a disastrous situation.

You know, that's one of the reasons why it's not defensible, like the position of people who hate Trump. It's like, okay, that's great, but you can't not have an executive, you know, or have, like, a literal, like, white nigger piece of shit, like, fucking Biden in the white house. It's not, this is something that transcends politics. Like, it's, like, endorsing the Biden administration is equivalent to, like, endorsing drunk driving. Like, I don't, it's not something that rational people would do. So, then I quite that's over.

But, yeah, so it was a great success, man. I was glad that I went. I was a little bit banged up when I got back, which is fine. That's just something that happens. But it was, like, really, really, really cold here. Like, when I got back, it was. It was like below zero and stuff. So the last few days I've been kind of rough,

but it was very good in him. That's my report. Good, man. Awesome. And you're, you're seeing good stuff coming out of the Trump White House. I mean, what do you think about,

I don't even know where to start here, but you mentioned Gaza, the ceasefire and everything. We were talking about Netanyahu before we went on before we started recording. And as of right now, they're supposedly pulling out of Lebanon, but there's suspicion that they may continue the war in Gaza, and it may partially be due to Netanyahu's own personal position.

I don't know what you think about that. Well, yeah, 100%. I mean, Netanyahu's been, then he's been grossly mismanaging this conflict from day one. I mean, in part it's because he doesn't know what he's doing. But there's also perverse incentives for him to make bad decisions. decisions in strategic terms because this conflict paradigm was one of the things that was keeping him out of penal jeopardy, quite literally. To be clear, too, like, IDF got their face broken in Lebanon by Hisville, Leveg, in 2006, and

despite a lot of cap, and despite some deployments suggesting that they were going to assault, like, they haven't, they haven't tried to properly assault Lebanon during this current conflict cycle and they won't because they're going to get because they're going to get smoked if they do. I think I don't see what else IDF can accomplish in gods other than like continuing to kill a lot of people and that doesn't, you know, I realize their entire strategy from inception has been one of attrition, but that's not a real victory metric. And I don't think I think at some point I mean, Israel's kind of,

he's real strange in the way that their system is, like their prime minister actually has a lot of authority. He's got more authority than most in a parliamentary system. He can't, like, Netanyahu can't just be fired by like a no-confidence voter, it's equivalent. And that would be, the problem with somebody like Netiyah,

who is that he can, it's basically impossible to get rid of him. once like an active conflict cycle is underway. But I think if you tried to escalate again, I think you probably, at some point I think IDF, too, would just, if you let the level of general command would just stop executing his orders, I think maybe it's already starting to happen in a defective way.

I don't know. I don't have any great insight into the internal situation on the Israeli side. Well, the question for the, oh, go ahead, sorry. no it's all right i uh but there's not there's not really anywhere to escalate too i mean yeah so i don't think so i think it's basically run its course and um overall it was a mistake there's a bunch of uh like when kameini and iran was saying like basically gaza's one you gotta look at this long term there's a bunch of simpletons on the internet

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and your entire victory metric is, yeah, we killed a lot of people. Like that, that's not only work, you know, and the situation's not going to go away. So, yeah, I mean, I'd argue that Gaza is, they've got political agency they've never had before. Go ahead. I'm sorry. And there's another dimension to it, right, which is Israel is given a Schmidtian exception, right? They are allowed to do things.

No other country is because of the narrative of World War II. And the argument basically runs because, you know, this group of people have been historically mistreated by you and your ancestors. you need to provide them a nation, you know, you need to subsidize that, you cannot criticize them. And the problem is, right, as that, you know, great event, you know, however mythologized it is, receives further and further into history. And the current behavior of that nation gets worse and worse, even within the bounded rationality of that, quote unquote, deal, it starts to become, you know, less and less morally clear, right? Like if Israel operated like Switzerland, they could probably operate effectively

indefinitely because they wouldn't bother anyone, right? It'd be like, okay, well, we have to be nice to them because something mean happened. It'd be like the Indian reservations, right? Where it's like, okay, we'll let you have casinos. But because, you know, the state of Israel seems absolutely incapable of just letting something go, you know, they need to, you know, be doing this kind of like extremely gross, you know, exterminist policy. They are alienating whatever diminishing goodwill they had. And so you have kind of two forces at once, one, which is the like natural PR drain of Israel constantly bombing children, blowing up hospitals, you know, doing the most kind of horrific

shit you can imagine. Well, also the fact is that they're their positive store of propaganda, right? The kind of propaganda that's completely brainwashed the baby boomers. Well, that's diminishing with each successive. generation. And so it's this push-pull situation where, you know, that window of time where they can cash in that card, well, that's decreasing. And, you know, any other goodwill is fast, you know, going out the door. And so, you know, even aside from any kind of like geopolitical reality, and I'm not trying to minimize it, but let's just put that aside, it's not a good situation.

No, it's not. And they've got, they've got no political capital anymore. But it's also totally, I mean, the point I was making too, and we were talking about, I was talking about this in D.C. with the kids who were staying with me in my hotel the night. You know, like, Zionism has no context anymore. It's a dead ideology. Like, nobody thinks

that way anymore. And even, like, such that such that the Israeli right as momentum, it has nothing to do with Zionism. You know, like we talked about before, it's the people who it's the people who in regime shorthand are called the quote,

ultra-orthodox. Like those are the people who are kind of carrying the torch of Jewish radicalism into the future. Like, it's not, um, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you, anitarian radicalism, I mean. Like, it's not, like, like, Zionism is this, it's this, it's this, it's this 20th century anachronism that's like a pastiche of dead, kind of like European state socialism. This, this kind of materialist, uh, like secular, like racialism. Like, nobody, nobody thinks that way anymore. You know, so like it can't perpetuate itself. And increasingly,

like the minority, a kind of Walmart shopping idiots who like think Israel's great in America. Like, I mean, first of all, these people are totally disengaged. Like, they've never ever met a Jewish person. Like, they don't, they don't have any fucking idea about this world. But, but it's also,

you know, you can't go to bed for, you could go to bed for Israel when they're literally fighting the Soviet army, when the world's regularly on the brink. You know, when even Nixon is like, look, like, we've just got to kind of, like, hold our nose and, like, support these people when they're fighting Warsaw Pact. I mean, that's one thing. It's nothing to say, like, yeah, you've just got to, these people who are incapable of getting along with anybody else on this planet, you just have to unconditionally support them for, like, reasons I saw on TV, you know, 40 years ago. Like, that doesn't, that doesn't wash.

And it also, whether people like it or not, I just. It's not the issue. Like, world opinion doesn't matter these days. And there's one billion people in Darl Islam or in the Islamic world, you prefer. You know, I mean, that matters. Like, this outrageous people across this planet when Zionists, you know, throw their way around like this and murder people to make some kind of point. You know, like this idea that that doesn't matter. or something is ridiculous.

There's a huge percentage of this planet that finds that outrageous. And there's millions more people who sympathize with them. That's my take down on a nutshell. Yeah, they don't really understand. I mean, I think even the boomers running APEC don't really understand. The political diet has changed as much as the conflict dyad. Watching all of these politicians, you know, post, you know, I love Israel, whatever they do.

You've all seen them. The rate at which these guys are getting ratioed is really insane. I mean, we're talking like maybe 50 likes, hundreds of comments. And it's the thing about politics and money is that money doesn't buy votes. Money buys ads. And ads were really, really powerful when everyone's only interface. with political reality was the television that makes ads and money

the most powerful thing in the world. But Kamala Harris had, nearest makes no difference, $1.5 billion. And Donald Trump had less than $400 million. So if money is everything in politics, then please explain to me how that happened

because that should be impossible. Yeah, you can't buy a money. Exactly, exactly. And that's rapidly becoming even more extreme. And for everybody that's like, you know, chimping out at Donald Trump saying, oh, well, you know, he did this peace deal that Israel is really upset about. And everybody that's on that side of things is really upset about it. And he managed to do it in literally six hours. But then everyone's upset because, oh, he's, well, he's, he canceled all foreign aid to every country

except for Israel, Jordan, and Egypt. And he's continuing to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and he's going to continue selling giving them two thousand pound bombs well that's okay because if i just forced a ceasefire on you i need that environment as in like you and the neighbors that you were currently at war with i need that to freeze or else the negotiations i just did aren't going to stick so if these guys are getting aid egypt you know Lebanon sorry egypt jordan and israel we're going to make sure nothing fucking changes until this piece of deal has a chance to settle and Netanyahu is forced out of office. Because that's what Trump did with that peace deal.

That wasn't him wanting Israeli peace. That was him wanting to politically assassinate Benjamin Netanyahu because he fucking promised him he would. So exactly. Yeah, we got to flesh this out. No, I just, just real quick and then I'll be quiet.

Yeah, people also understand the Camp David Accords may have been like a bad plate by Carter but that is why this is the foreign aid exception and that is why Egypt also like is on the slate it's not like oh the Jews intervened to keep getting paid like that's not what happened and like again maybe it's a bad policy but people don't understand like why it's that way like that's the Camp David Accords basically and we don't understand the political realities of Egypt right now

no no exactly and Egypt and you explain that yeah can you explain that time the cost of peace at Camp David was that Israel and Egypt like always get paid It was what like there's there's a bribery aspect for all practical purposes, okay? Because like Egypt was Israel's primary enemy. And in Jewish strategic terms, um, other than, I, in military terms other than Iraq, like Egypt was Egypt for decades was like the, like the conventional, uh, power center of, uh, of Arab power in, in, in terms of military affairs. and also You catch them in the corner of your eye

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of the Arab world of Egypt Okay so the Camp David Accords It was a diplomatic concord Egypt for all practical permission is demobilized. I mean, they still obviously have, like, a healthy military budget, but it's very, operationally, it's very much integrated into the United States. That's why there's Operation Bright Star every year, which is a, which is a joint military

exercise going back to the late 70s, early 80s. But it's actually, it's basically a diplomatic and political concord. That's what I meant. That's not, it wasn't some stopgap issue to, like, find a way to keep paying the Jews and the Egyptians. That's what I meant. I keep talking. Further Thomas's point, Egypt is a nation of, correct me if I'm wrong, over 100 million people. Yeah.

130. Yeah, it's a huge country. And yeah, I'll be right back. Keep talking. Yeah, to Thomas's point, that country is really only one city, right? Tokyo is not the most highest dense population in the world. That is Cairo. all right it has more people per square inch than any other nation on the planet and these people

subsist entirely on grain shipments from russia exactly paid for by u.s grant money the government is effectively so corrupt cec has done nothing but destroy and embezzle every dollar that's ever gotten shipped there except for the bare minimum he has to spend on food the last time there was a revolt in Egypt they captured the government within an hour and a half right the apartment projects the slums are literally across the street as in like literally so we're talking 25 feet away from all of the government buildings they're physically unable to defend the government it's got 22 million people 19,000 per square kilometer and this thing about bread if you remember the Arab Spring. The Arab Spring kicked off for different reasons in different countries. I just wanted to throw this out there because of what Stormy said.

The Arab Spring kicked off in Egypt because of people killing each other in lines for the free bread handouts. Yes, 100%. And the rate at which the government toppled just staggered, really everybody involved because there is no barrier between the government and very, very hungry people. Right. So as it is right now, Egyptian army soldiers and border patrol people are committing effectively suicide by cop with Israeli border guards. I don't mean to keep interrupting you. Yeah. Go for it. People need to keep in mind the border with Gaza on the west side is with Egypt. It's very fucking important.

But the border guards, the Egyptian border guards are effectively because of the bribery system, in Cece's government, they're effectively ordered to stand down, while the entire Arab world, like Thomas said, is basically crying out in anger and agony. So the border guards are choosing to basically commit suicide by cop because they're very religious people, unlike the secular Israelis. And you can read some of their comments that they leave on, you know, Twitter or, you know, I think now that they're big on tick,

Talk is the big anyways, whatever, it doesn't matter. These guys are basically saying, right, I'm supposed to sit here and watch these people die, but then when I die, God is going to judge me and I'm going to go to hell. So I can either accept my death now and go to heaven a martyr, or I can watch the genocide happen and be damned to eternity. And this has happened like, I think, 15 times the last two months. Right. So the entire Egyptian army and the Egyptian populace is ready to tear Israel apart. It is the most population dense place in the fucking Arab world, and it's right next door. If Trump messes up, and it would be a mess up, it would undo the peace deal he just forced

on Netanyahu, which is the death of his political rival. This is smart politics. If he pulls aid from Egypt, Egypt collapses, and Egypt rolls over like World War Zee, the zombie apocalypse into Israel and tears it to shreds within, I would guess, two days. We wouldn't be able to mobilize forces in theater fast enough to stop it. Well, it's also, I mean, that's what, it was the reason, the reason that 73 crises happened, and obviously it was a totally apparent. I'm what, you know, the IDF had, in the 73, the, when, when IDF surrounded,

Egyptian forces. The Soviet Union deployed nuclear weapons to the port of Alexandria, and they shifted to affording a high alert, and Brezhnev's declared that if the IDF tries to move on Cairo, or if they try and annihilate the Egyptian army, we're going to assault, because it's an act of war against the Soviet Union and the socialist community of nations. Like, basically, Nixon averted World War III, quite literally, by standing down the Israelis. and then what after about half a decade subsequent Carter was able to essentially buy off these Israelis and the Egyptians to not ever allow this to happen again. So I mean it's like for better words, it's like the cornerstone of a strategic policy in the

near East. It has nothing to do with like Donald Trump's just a site and he wants to pay people. I mean, so that's, you know, it's interesting too. like I mean, I believe that there's a burgeoning, the Soviet or the, the Russian Federation has flipped Yemen in the way that the Soviet Union did, which is fascinating. There's also a burgeoning concord with Iraq. And there's also, I believe, Egyptian, the Egyptians have now firmly rejoined Moscow in terms of the, you know, in terms of their political allegiance. So the Israelis aren't in a position to be demanding anything. And unless the United States, to your point is, ready to fight some general war on the ground against the entire Arab world. They better keep paying Egypt.

I mean, it's the only thing that's the only finger in the proverbial dam on Israel's frontiers. So, yeah, and the main thing is people also misunderstand, like, I think against Trump. I mean, I like Trump as much as I could like any political figure. But even if Trump's a bad guy, that's not important. like the important thing is that Zionists can't continue to hurt people and that and that um this uh this terrorist state of ukraine is going down in flames and that uh this this this kind of hijacking of of u.s policy in the absence like literally in the absence of a president the past four years is over with that's what's important like you've got to look at it that way you can't look at it like there's not some ideal man in the oval office who i want to break bread with and go to ball games with and talk to about women and stuff. So not to be the eternal naysayer, right?

But what do you guys make of the reports that Trump has gone back on Biden's decision to cut off the supply of 2,000 pound bombs to Israel? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If I force a ceasefire on you and you're not allowed to shoot anything, who the fuck cares how many, bombs I give you that you can't use. If it make you feel safe, if having that gun underneath your pillow makes you sleep okay

and shut the fuck up. But I unwind this piece deal. If you throw one, then whatever. What's also, it's a non-issue. It's kind of like, like, so we're going to arbitrarily ban, like, certain categories of weapons. I mean, like, that's not, Israel's ability to drop bodies in theater. It doesn't come down to like the poundage of bombs that it has.

I mean, I, if Israel wanted to really escalate anyway, they'd be popping. I mean, don't get me wrong. They've shown no restraint whatsoever. I'm not saying that. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa. Save her sumptuous farm-fresh dining. Relax in our exquisite accommodations.

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diplomacy is, like, let's find some, like, arbitrary sticking point and then pretend we got some concession. Like, so it's like 1,000 pound munitions are okay, but double that is not because that's extra bad or something like that. And it's people looking for a reason to black pill, right? This is another thing is the 2,000 pound bombs are laser guided munitions. they only interface with effectively our command and control system. Everybody screams and cries and says,

Peter Thiel's a Zionist, Peter Thiel's a Zionist, because Palantir is being used by Israel. So that must mean that, you know, Donald Trump gave him 2,000 pound bombs. That means he loves Benjamin Netanyahu. The Israelis had their own targeting AI program. It was called Lavender. Anybody can go check it out. So in the beginning of the war,

effectively, this never before used AI targeting system created by the supergenyces of the Israeli intelligence unit 8200 that are so much better than everyone in the whole wide world in computers and their hackers are better than anyone. And if you use a computer, it's basically owned by Israel. yet these super computer geniuses apparently don't know how to build a fucking targeting system and it was

well you saw the carnage in the beginning of the war it was targeting people for virtually no reason every 30 seconds and the IDF gleefully just greenlit every single one to the point where in the beginning of the war the backlash from again the community of nations that Thomas talks about that is important optics matter in diplomacy. It got so bad that the Pentagon said this is untenable.

Either we run targeting and you shut the fuck up or we're not going to say, like all of a sudden our transport planes are going to have a big problem. You know, things are going to break down and all of a sudden things aren't going to get to you as quickly, whatever. The Pentagon has all types of ways to muck things up outside of executive authority. So the Palantir was forced on the Israelis. Well, it's also, too, I don't think you understand what Gaza is like. I mean, I don't mean, that's not a similar genetic statement. I mean just like in tactical terms, like what it is.

It's basically, it's just massively overpopulated, like, little sliver of dirt. And basically, basically the way IDF does things, they deploy their grunts who basically, they get their target, they declare that, you know, okay, this is the equivalent of like a strategic hamlet or the, you know, as was the case in Nam, if you need a metaphor, or an analogy. And

they practice like walk and fire. They basically treat it like a free fire zone. And then like when they take then when people throw shots at them, like basically they call in like a massive artillery strike. Or they call in air support and they waste everything, you know, with

their fuel weapons or whatever. and then they do their walk and fire and basically like target everything in the area. Like that's what's going on. Like it's not it's not it's not like okay on this side here's the IDF and here's Hamas

and oh but the Israelis are doing all this bad stuff behind the lines with like super powerful bombs like that's not what's happening. Like what they're doing is basically it would be like if the British army had assaulted the falls in like 1970 and like gone nuts and said like okay everybody who's Catholic as an op like kill everybody

and then like once a sniper, like, throw shots at them, like, they would draw, and then they call in, like, massive artillery and air support and, like, flatten everything. Like, that's what they're doing, just for context. Well, the question I have for... One of the things that came across... One of the things that came across the ticker today that I think is interesting is Netanyahu's press office announced they were going to allow Gaza residents to return to the north Monday morning.

And my immediate thought was, okay, either we have a ceasefire or, I mean, there's no telling what they want, what they're going to do. I've heard people say they're going to stop in Gaza, they're pulling out of Lebanon, and they're going to concentrate on the West Bank. They're just going to go in and they're going to cleanse the West Bank, that that's the next thing you're going to do. this thing with Gaza you know the north is pretty destroyed I mean I don't even know that they're not

inviting them back in to start this all over again to just you know start killing again and when you look at the way they've reacted there is no there's no rhyme or reason for what

they do and why or why they do it it just seems net and yah who gets a wild hair up his ass and oh okay we're going to let them back in oh we're going to stop you know an attack happens a rocket gets fired over and now we just move back in and we just start killing killing again we start destroying again um and you know something that stormy i was driving yesterday and stopped it stopped to get gas and stormy hits me up and goes you have to listen to like the first eight minutes of the next of the new tucker episode with kurt mills and i just got caught up listening to the whole thing and it was right

they recorded this as an emergency podcast like an hour or two after heggseth got got put in there and it got confirmed and what i remember from when he was at Fox, when Tucker was at Fox, Trump would say something, he was going to do something really fucking stupid during the day. And Tucker would go on at night and be like, this is why it's fucking stupid,

and he shouldn't be doing it. And then all of a sudden Trump the next morning, I'd be like, eh, you know, we're not going to do that, everything. And when you listen to this whole thing, I've listened to this whole hour and a half twice and I've taken notes on it, it looked like it was a message to Donald Trump

that Hegseth has surrounded himself, hired people around him to man the Pentagon who are not anti-Israel but basically want to cut off

in any way stop supporting what they're doing as far as getting us into wars as far as just sullying our name around the world as being the weapons dealer to this regime of death. Yeah, I'm sure that's true. It's also, it's not a traditional military quagmire.

I think people don't understand that, or they think it's just propaganda from secular humanists and liberals or something when people point this out. But, you know, it's not like, I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I said before I went live. Pumas caught idea with his pants down and they really embarrassed them. So there was going to be some kind of conventional response at scale.

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They're outnumbered literally by a billion people. Their whole notion is we're going to drop bodies and we're going to thin out this population that causes us problems. And there's not an exit strategy and it's not part of some grand strategic design to like make Israel safer in terms of it's in terms of like where the main line of resistance is or something is literally what I said. It's like these people are our racial enemies. We're going to kill as many of them as possible because we're under threat.

just by them existing as a threat to us. It's really, really paranoid and really primitive, and it's not well thought out at all. And part of it, too, as like I said, just like the rant man of Kiev, you know, Yenahu himself is an odiferous little subhuman, and he's trying to keep his ass out of the sling, you know, because you can't remove his sitting executive at war

and to force him to answer charges. And everything else aside, and then Yahu's just like a cheap gangster, you know, and he's, um, he's, days are numbered in the free world. So the longer he keeps this war going, like, the longer he gets to stay out in jail. I predict that there will be a political change in the office of the prime minister within the next 45 days. How do the end, I can, I'll circle up with some of you privately about why I think that,

because it's a little too early for me to, to go out. No, it's probably true. That's probably true. I was saying two years ago just resigned Yeah I was saying And Ihood Barack

He's he's um Ehood Barack's one of the only Israelis I pay attention to him Because he's a serious guy And I think he's As much as somebody That persuasion can be I think he's a pretty decent guy

But I He's been saying that For the last couple of years Like when this Like things are going to change When this war end And that's one of the reason This perverse incentives

for the for the civilian command and control authorities to keep it going. And no, Israel's got a real problem. And they're going to this kind of carte blanche, they do whatever they want. Like that, that's all over with,

that the past four years changed everything. And the degree to which, like the degree to which to like this kind of, this kind of dummy regime represented by Biden and that whole cadre like that that's over with like that's like literally everywhere on this planet is contempt for that shit other than like a handful

of senile old people who who don't really know what's going on yeah they have no idea what's really no they're totally senile and this idea of Israel waging race war on people is fine you know shoveling money at this terrorist state in Ukraine is fine

as long as we you know as long as we kind of sit around and talk about Donald Trump is putting against us. Like nobody respects that bullshit. That's broke as fuck. Let me ask you guys a question, man. On what pretense can they even continue the war in Gaza after the ceasefire? I mean, it's over.

Like, what? I think that's why stormy's. They're going to say if they want to, they're going to say that they're still under threat. Or they're going to say that. And the place to watch really is going. And like I'm always made, I don't want to hijack the conversation. But, you know,

people misunderstand what happened in Syria. They misunderstood it when it was going on. I'm not stroking myself, but I'm one of the only people who actually predicted what was happening, as opposed to people like Pepe Escobar, who totally got it wrong. But one of the reasons why the Turks and Israelis can achieve with the Russians to essentially divide up Syria is because that would the Israelis get to occupy going. And the regime, this like Salafi regime in Syria, they've been issuing these like omnis. like ominous statements that they're quote not going to let Israel occupy Golan.

I mean, the degree to which they can mount operations to preclude them from occupying it remains to be seen. But I think they're going to do something. And when they do something, if Netanyahu still survives, he's going to claim like, oh, this is Hamas, which is Pizabla, which is, you know, all of our enemies are colluding together, you know, in Golan. And if our forces come under fire in Golan, we're going to retaliate against Gaza. Um, so that's how it would play out. Um, if they want to, but I, I don't think that's in the cards and I, you know, Hamas actually quoted itself pretty well. And I think they can fight indefinitely. You know, they agree, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think his real really wants to keep on fucking with it. But we'll see. But that's how it would play out in terms of a pretext, I think. And then this is she'll go over she knows in the hamsterer. Islear that we'll goa and not do any other than do. in the Gala Ghaelphada Gaila Deiardin. In Ergrid, we're taking the

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that Netahu's gone in 45 days means he thinks the war is over, that they're not going to keep i mean for all predile purposes it is but yeah if they need if they need a pretext to assault that's what it's going to be and they're going to claim what they've always claimed like anytime uh any if like if net niahu's if net niahu's if net nioux's cornflakes are soggy he claims hamas is doing it but that also iran is supporting hamas and making his cornflakes soggy exactly yeah but this time uh the head of the idf who was the only willing which is generally very to Thomas's point. I think the situation that Thomas described as a possibility

of Benjamin Netanyahu ordering the men into the field again and they just don't listen. Because now the head of the IDF is about to be appointed by a very, very, very hostile Knesset. Yeah, people forget too that Israel is actually kind of a shithole, like just living there kind of sucks. While the billionaires live here. No, exactly. And they've also, they've got a general. military draft and I mean there's a lot of young guys who find them you know find themselves drafted and sent into Gaza in in some fucked up role when they didn't even want to be in the military in the first place like that does change things like it's not as well it's not just like

running around with like the Jewish person of Blackwater doing this stuff but a lot of them guys are just like dudes who got grabbed and drafted and like shoved in dentists and shit yeah we got who got shoved into this like messed up like highly racialized situation like it's not the They can't just do whatever they want at the command level without some sort of revolt. Yeah. The only people backing Netanyahu have their own paramilitary faction, right? The ultra-Orthodox, whichever you consider. They are armed, operated militia, right?

This nefarious bit of stuff that happened with the Palestinian prisoners and the rape, the reason that those guards and really the prison itself were freed, right, because basically this ultra-Orthodox militia surrounded the prison and basically threatened the lives of all the prison guards. These are Israeli ultra-Orthodox surrounding an Israeli prison, demanding the release of an Israeli prisoner. And the guards were forced to do it. and nothing happened.

Like, imagine if this were to play out in the United States. Us and all of our guys, I don't know, surround Folsom or Rikers with small arms telling everybody that we're going to shoot any guard that comes out of the door and we'll stay here as long as possible until the prisoner that we want inside is released.

Could you imagine such a thing ever have? happening? Yeah. How how deteriorated would our government have to be to allow it? Like this is the political situation on the ground in Israel four months ago. It's only gotten worse. Like

the same. Yeah, it's totally nuts. And yeah, that's the whole you know, like we were talking about at the top of the young. Oh, and they don't fight in the army. Yeah, no, it's a really weird paradigm. I mean, there's a bunch of those guys, the quote ultra-Orthodox, like here, like literally they're like, they live like right by. And they're really, really weird.

And they're not, they're not, they're not an admirable people. But they, but they're very, very different than these kinds of, like, secular Zionists who are, who, who have basically been kind of like left behind by history. Like, those guys, the future of the Israeli right. Like, they're not, like, Zionism is dead. Nobody believes in that bullshit anymore. So the guys demanding that Nanyahu fight and continue the war are also the guys that don't want to, or the guys that refuse to fight in it. How long do you think that's stable? Yeah, well, and what's also too?

I mean, the entire paradigm is like there's, um, they're not, uh, like a lot of the ultra-Orthodox, like they view Zion, like, like, they're anti-Zionist, like, not, not for like, humanitarian reasons or something, but they view it as, like, offensive to God and they view, like, they view Jewish culture in Israel as being, like, decadent and they, you know, having abandoned the Torah and stuff.

Like, it's not, like, so does it, Israel reigns viable going forward. It's going to be this kind of weird theocracy. represented by like a vanguard of of those guys. Like this idea of like, you know, this kind of secularist, oh, we're part of this like special race of the Jewish people, you know, and we're gonna pretend that, you know, we're European socialists in 1950, like that's dead. That's over with.

So therefore you're saying de facto Israel is dead. Because the only reason Israel's been able to sustain this support racket is because of their very careful and curated, We're just like you, Europeans. We're just like you Americans. We just live in the Middle East. Oh, yeah. By enemies.

These orthodox are alien. Oh, yeah. As well, be from fucking Mars. Yeah, that's a big part of it. Yeah, the mask is dropping. Well, it's also, too, like the, you know, world opinion, one of the things, too, that's kind of changed things, especially with younger people.

And I'm always making the point. I mean, I like younger people for all kinds of reasons, but also they've got better sense than, than a lot of generational encodaries. You know, for decades during the Cold War and subsequent, they tried to present, they try to present Palestine. Like, it's these crazy, like,

it's like these crazy, it's like these, I mean, Dave, I saw the reference, but it's like these crazy colored people, like Snokely Carmichael or something, who want to burn everything down. But then you see Palestinians on TV. Like, it basically, like,

they're like normal people who dress, like, Westerners who, like, don't look any different than, like, Greek or Sicilian people. Like that, you know, but then, like, cut to, like, Cut to like these these Jewish people who are like these crazy guys like swinging chickens around and saying they want to kill everybody It's like well gee, you know something here doesn't add up You know so yeah, it's an optics problem

But also I like I'm always saying and I'll be quiet a minute But be the only would understand kind of the Concord politically why like I was real was able to kind of lock in This this unconditional support. I mean obviously it owes to like the mythology and trying to nirmber of like holocaust theology and stuff. But it's also the Cold War. Like the Soviet Union literally was at war with Israel for decades. So the Soviet Union, the East Germans, the Czechs, you know, are on the ground in the Middle East, like fighting the Israelis, you know, and people, you know, are sitting around singularly

terrified of the Soviet Union. You can make the case for Israel a hell of a lot easier than you can in 2025. You know, that can't be overstated, in my opinion. do you think the general public sees any connection between Israel and Ukraine I don't know if they do or at least No they're idiots

Yeah they're idiots But it doesn't matter what they think like they Yeah these people These people always think Donald Trump Is like implanting ideas in their TV To make them gay or something Like they're they're idiots It doesn't matter what they think

Yeah Worrying about what the population at large believes is these are people who are waiting to be told, waiting around to be told what to do and what to believe. So, I mean, an article to president could tell them what to believe

and they'd believe them. And Trump could do this right now. The, one of the, one of the worst takes I saw on Twitter was after he pardoned all the January 6 people, someone said oh he should leave him in there it'd been better off if they got left in there because that would radicalize people more

and I'm like who the fuck is that going to radicalize it's not like tell this motherfucker to go sit in prison and tell me how he likes it some people would say he is in some people would say he is in his own prison of his own making right now but you know it's like he's like you know Hitler got

Hitler was right I'm sorry, I thought Hitler went into prison and when he came out, he's like, I got to do this legitimately and get elected. Not like I got to get, I'm going to come out and burn everything to the fucking ground. It's like a retardo, it's a retardal take anyway, because even if you are like some hard line, even if you're like some hardline partisan, your whole notion would be that you're a vanguard. It's not that I'm going to get Walmart shoppers to get radical, quote, radicalized and really mad. I'm going to lead like, I'm going to lead this like army of like the stupid and the broken to like burn down this regime I don't like. Like, who the fuck thinks that way? Like nobody.

I think there's a small contingent of people who do fucking think that way. Like is ridiculous. I agree with Astro, there's a bunch of retards that have this idea. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're not, they're not in the game. And like, they're not in the games. Yeah, there's the same guys who like, it's a crime that they were like taught to read because like they don't, they don't understand the way things work for it. I'm like, I'm not.

They're lessover libertarians. They're trying to convince 51%. Yeah, exactly. And it's also, um, it's also not even, I swear to, like,

some of these guys, they don't even understand why, they don't even understand why, like, Zionism is problematic. Like, in their mind, they're just like these dumb fucking hicks and,

like, like, like, to them, like, Jews as some, like, stand in for bad guys or something. Like,

they don't, it, like, it doesn't actually compute. Like, I'm convinced of that. You know, this is why,

this is why, So I'm always saying, like, I don't, I don't know how many delusions of these people are, like, politically educable. And, like, generally, like, I just, like, I just tune out when, like, 99% of people, like, start talking about what they think is politics because they're fucking illiterate. It'd be, like, listening to some hobo and the CTA telling me about his, like, theory of astrophysics. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design. They move you.

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So forgive me for like being a lame and like ending the party early. But we do this. You want to cut us on Ukraine real quick before we jump? Yeah, yeah. Follow me. What do you think, how do you think the, how do you think this plays out? Do you think, well, actually, just for. I'd like to hear just like broadstrokes.

I mean, it's what I've been saying for months. I, there's not, I mean, this whole Ukraine thing has been a joke from jump. I mean, it's not funny because huge amounts of people are dying. And there's this grotesque little subhuman in Kiev who's profiting from the deaths of thousands of people. But like this idea that there was ever some victory condition that could be realized by Ukraine is, is preposterous. First of all, the only raise on detra if the Ukraine war has been America under the fiction of NATO deploying a decapitation range. That's the only reason on vetro. This idea that Russia coppets Ukraine for no reason is ridiculous, or this reason that there's like

independent causal variables leading to the war is ridiculous. And as is this claim that somehow somehow the Ukraine armed forces were going to defeat the Russian army in the field, then assault Russia, then occupy Moscow, then prevent Russia from reconstituting to threaten a newly sovereign Ukraine, which presumably

also in this counterfactual like occupies and controls the Donbass and probably Russian territory within visual range of curse. Like that's literally delusional. So the only purpose of this military operation has been to kill Russians

and to try and punish Russia for the hurt it laid on America and Israel and its terrorist allies in Syria years ago, and to try and force concessions by hitting Russia where it hurts, metaphorically speaking. So this conflict cycle had an expiration date anyway. There's not the political will, there's not the material resources, there's not the manpower for this criminal mafia. Ukraine to pretend to continue that they're waging this war against Russia that has some sort of realizable victory metric in mind. So that's coming to a natural end. Also, I mean, the Russian position has always been this war will end as soon as you stop attacking us and deploying a decapitation range. That's always been Moscow's perspective. That's the rational perspective. And, you know,

nobody in Washington has talked to the Russians in years, incredible as that might see. seem. So the Russians have been beyond eager to talk to anybody in Washington because, like I said, for all practical purposes, Americas have been headless for four years, which is incredible. When you consider the kinds of commitments in war and peace terms that have been underway, it's literally incredible. It's surreal. But that's where we're at. So, yeah, as soon as it was, it was, went without saying that as soon as there was an actual president in the White House, the war would end because it's it's it's it's based on a preposterous fiction and nobody's to be intent that Europe though is trying to continue this the Europeans into it it's wild to me.

The Europeans are literally senile you know like it's not gaslighting the rest of this planet they're like they're literally senile like these faggots are still going around claiming like America didn't really assault German infrastructure. It was the Russians that blew up their own pipeline. You can't make this up. Like, nobody listens to these fucking people. Like, they're a joke. You know, and even if they weren't a joke,

there's no, they have no ability to project power. You know, they have no credible military records. You know, they have, they have no saying anything. They're just like these yapping chihuahuas and these, like, senile cabos, you know, who nobody listens to. You know, they, they, and they pissed away whatever credibility they had, you know, about cheering on this, um, this entire charade. That's my take on.

So I have it on good authority. Um, and I kind of wish it wasn't true. But it's from someone I, I trust very much that, um, and I'd love to get your take on this. But it seems that Britain and France are, trying to get out in front of Putin and Trump coming to some type of arrangement, which is why I think Mr. Trump, or President Trump, is so eager to get in front of Vladimir Putin as quickly as he seems to be. But I mean, maybe that's true.

There's a French battalion fighting the Russians right now in combat in current. I'm sure there is. Which is in Russia. But nobody takes these people seriously. Like people take Keir, Starmor seriously. Get the fuck out of here. No, the battalion's a large force, though. Okay, but I mean, the Russians have been at war for years.

I mean, I'm sure. They're going to get chewed up. They're going to get chewed up. Yeah. But I mean, I don't. Scream like, oh, my God, Russia killed a, you know, a battalion of our troops. This is a tragedy. We have to invoke Article 5.

Okay. Let them, let them say that. I mean, the, so the, France is going to deploy France is going to deploy to the Ukrainian battle space, then they're going to assault Russian tank columns with chemical weapons, then they're going to move on Moscow, then they're going to extract

concessions from Putin. There is no chance if they're happening, so they're literally just, they're literally just talking shit. They're talking literal shit. Yes. So what I think, my theory, is that this is, well, so let's say Europe

had a sovereign debt default tomorrow. The leaders would end up hanging from limbs unless they're at war. Yeah, I don't, I don't. The fact that faggotry was just marketing PR spin for austerity because the leadership knew that this is in the cards. We're watching it happen now. And I think the French and British leadership are so terrified of the debt unwinding

and them not having someone to blame it on or not have, I guess, the ability. as a government would, if it were to be at war to clamp down on civilian civil unrest? All I can say is this. NATO doesn't exist unless or until whoever the consular is, the Bundes Republic, can issue an order for all military age, able-bodied males to mobilize. That order will be executed. And then a half a million strong force will assault Russian tank columns in the battle space, if necessary with nuclear and chemical weapons.

and they will continue to fight until, unless they're until those forces reach Moscow, prevent the U.R.R.R.S. the Russian Federation reconstituting, and then literally force concessions at gunpoint. Unless that's possible, NATO doesn't exist. France can say whatever they want. Kirstarmer can wisp about whatever he wants. You know, that's like, it's literal shit. You know, like let them that the British are going to deploy half a million strong to the battle space

and fight the Russian army. Like, I mean, there's... Yeah, there's no chance of that happening, so they're talking literal garbage. You know, I mean, they can say whatever they want. They can claim they're going to invoke, Article 5, okay, go fight a nuclear war with Russia and Central Europe. Like, oh, that's not going to happen.

Okay, I guess you're just talking shit then. Well, this is, this actually speaks to a very interesting development, right? that it seems like Trump has pulled roughly 20 to 30,000 servicemen out of Europe. Really? When did this happen? Today. I was. And like I said, I saw this on Twitter. It might be fake.

But let's assume it's real, right? I only report the best information here. Right. It does speak to an interesting. refocus of the American Empire, right? And effectively, like the world police game is, if not over, it's shifting focus, right? We are no longer global. On road doctrine, baby. Exactly, which is something stormy that you may have mentioned once or twice before. Yeah, only all the time for the last two years. Well, also, these guys that, these guys that Mr. Trump deployed to the southern border, they got to come

from somewhere. And I realize a lot of those guys, the Marines, the Marines aren't really in Europe, but I, but you know, the force isn't being, this isn't 1985. Like, these guys got to come from somewhere. I mean, they've got to be pulled off some, some meaningless deployment and we're going to actually, you know, be, to plug these gaps in the south. I mean, unless it's, I have no idea, like, how many forces Trump is throwing down there, but I assume it's more than just like a token gesture or assuming it is i mean they i i i'd assume that those guys are are coming from somewhere and um that would that would tend to indicate that um you know he's he's making decisions about where to prioritize those um those force levels but uh but yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna raise up man

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All right, yeah, all right, fellas, I'll be in touch, I'm going to go to a bit, but yeah, I'll hit you guys up on next couple days. So Trump,

Trump for sure is announced withdrawing 20,000 troops from Europe, and this goes back to his whole thing about, like, how our NATO allies have left us in the lurch

and they expect us to pay for everything and man everything, and basically have us be completely responsible for NATO and that they need to step up. At the same time, they're actively trying to get NATO into a war. Yeah, well, they, who's they? You know who they is.

Rogue fucking gangster billionaires. But Stormy, this speaks to what we've been talking about, the pivot to South America, the Monroe Docter. Is this the Stormy was right about everything episode? Well, I think that this is the, Yeah, this is that segment of the show. Pete, I'm glad Pete brought up Kurt Mills on Tucker. That is like the fucking best Tucker episode I ever heard.

And I also have a page of notes from it. And he says explicitly in the episode, me and Stormy already talked about this. I think maybe it was on this show with you guys. I can't remember now. But somewhere we talked about the pivot to South America. That's why Marco Rubio is the Secretary of State. And what Kurt Mills said on Tucker was, you can't secure the border if you're in war with Middle East.

And to Pete's point, yeah, well, I was just going to say to Pete's point about Trump. I mean, he directly fucking called out Barry Weiss. Like, sorry, Barry Weiss. Like, you can't get us into another war. It's not going to happen this time. Like, your days are numbered.

Well, so Pete was the one that clued me into Rubio. Yeah, well, the Rubio thing is important. Rubio just got sent to Panama today. Did he? Yep. He's in Central He's going to be into a Central American and South American tour. Well, that's it, man.

This is the only fucking show. We're the only right-wing show that isn't either like rabid pro-Zionists, Jews. Or crying about the Jews. I mean, here's the worst thing. I said this on my live stream today. The worst thing you can do is give somebody

who really is, is not educated on how the post-war consensus works, and you give them the JQ, and have them wake up to the JQ. Go on Twitter. There's a certain group of people who just run around, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, everyone's a Jew, you disagree with me, you're a Jew, you're a Jew, Jew, Jew, you're a Jew, Jew, what are you doing?

Who are you recruiting? Is this, are you building a vanguard? I mean, they think they are. How can you do you get a rest in January 6th? So, Pete, there's something to this, right? So I made a post, right? Which basically said, you know, something along the lines of like, Trump has done more for us in the past two weeks than the conservative movement has in my entire life.

Let alone. That's a brilliant post. any of your lives, right? And so we owe him some loyalty, right? And, you know, generally well received, but there's a lot of chimping, right, saying things like what you were saying, Pete. And to me, right, if we have any amount of political realism, it comes down to the idea that politics is an exchange, right? I give you things you want, and in exchange, you give me your loyalty. And to be honest, that exchange is why people like Trump, right? Because Trump actually does the things that they want. So we recognize that as, you know, hard-nosed, big-brain political realists until it's time to pay up your part of the deal, right?

Because look, he did what he said. So fair enough. Right. And when I say loyalty, I don't mean the kind of like blind loyalty that you see and like the actual MAGA movement, right? Like the credit. The benefit of the doubt. but also, I don't know, man. This guy did like, I don't know, nine out of the ten things I like would have written down if you said, hey, what are the ten things you would do to make America better tomorrow? So like, I don't know, man. Like, that's worth noting. That doesn't mean he saves the West.

That doesn't mean he is, you know, the guy, the Caesar, whatever. But like, look, like, we were in a very big. bad situation. Now we're in a better situation. It has gotten better. And the idea you were talking about this, Pete, earlier, that a certain individual who remained unnamed talked about, which is, you know, the idea that it would be better for us if the Jan 6 protesters would still there to drive radicalization. One, this is a complete fallacy. Right. And the example to this is one actually that Endeavor, right, the Canadian video essay brings up all the time, which is he's like, look, look at South Africa. Look how much worse South Africa is than anywhere in the West.

They still have shit lips. They still have white progressives there. They have not been radicalized. Very clearly, right? They are living in the consequences of their actions and they still believe it just as much. So that doesn't work. And then as far as the masses go, they don't give a fuck. Like people who don't care about politics barely even remember January 6th happened. And the idea that any time you win, you actually lose is so deeply embedded in all forms of right-wing politics. And we can point it out in the normal conservatives, right, who complain about, you know, Trump's executive orders not being constitutionally correct. We can point it out in them. But when it's one of our guys or one of the guys adjacent to us, you don't see the exact same mechanism.

that cripples the right in America just completely. Well, do you guys think you can answer this? Because, I mean, I don't, there's a tough question to answer. Why do you think these guys are addicted to losing? I mean, why do you think they spin every victory into a defeat? And why is that their anger? Well, because I can, I can say this. Jay mentioned it.

Trump will give you 10, Trump will give you nine out of the 10 things you want. The 10th thing so many of these people want is for, the United States to be 110. So if Trump doesn't make the United States 110, country number 110, then it's all a loss. Okay. And something that Thomas talks about is the fact that the post-war consensus,

the way this country, the way the government is structured, the way everything is structured, until that, you could, watch the way Trump is dismantled. things. And he's not doing it for this purpose, but what the point Thomas tries to make is the reason why they can have so much power in so many places is because of the way this is structured. You break the structure and they just become another, they just become another group vying for

influence, struggling for influence. Right now they're at the top. They're at the top. They're at the top because they built this structure. This structure comes down. They're back on the ground floor again. And you can see this in Russia. I don't care how many of our fucking retard Spurgs post pictures of Putin meeting with Putin meeting with Jews, Putin doing this, doing that and

everything. Jews do not run him. Anyone who tells you that Jews, like, oh, they control Russia. It's like, Literally the fucking gun that Russia created is the one that the enemies of jewelry uses. Okay. I mean, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about?

And you just can't. They found the enemy, the one enemy. And they're literally bigger Zionists than Ben Gavir and any of these guys are. Because they think that they're like, oh, you can't. beat them unless you, oh, you can never have control of. And then you point out Russia and they go, and they go, oh no, well, look, he's meeting with these rabbis here. Yeah, if you had a country and you ran it like a fucking, you ran it like a king, you can meet with these people who have undue influence in other countries that don't

have, you're not going to give them undue influence in your country. It just, these people, that's why they're so addicted to losing. because they've created this gigantic like the reverse of a golem that is like they look at at Jews as a reverse of a like these super menses

that they until we beat them it's like well how do you beat them? Well you have to kick them out of your country what? Well it's it's actually similar to the recent drama

with the whole Panda Express situation. So for any of the viewers who aren't familiar with the genuine retarded depths of online Twitter drama, basically what happened is that Chris Rufo was saying, you know, you shouldn't be complaining about the economy because I'll have you know, you can get a job as a Panda Express manager and make 70K a year, right? The implication basically being, you know, stop complaining about H-1B visas or immigration. still money to be made. Giant uproar kicked up. One of the interesting things in that, right, not going into any specifics, is that it sort of does display an actual flaw with the right

wing. And actually, just people in general, they have a very hard time holding two ideas and tension. In the case of Panda Express, two things can be true at once, right? Both the economy is rigged against you and you in your situation have person. you have a range of decisions you can make and you have a certain amount of personal accountability. So similarly, right, you can recognize that the country of Israel has undue influence due to a number of reasons, right? Everyone would agree with that. But that doesn't mean, like Pete said, that these are like impossible super beings. You know, there are other special interest groups who have fallen out of favor.

right? Big tobacco does not have the same amount of leverage they used to have, right? Cotton farmers don't have the kind of leverage they used to have. This happens all the time. And in the same way that businesses rise and fall, special interest groups rise and fall. This is a problem that can be solved. Now, admittedly, this particular special interest group is very, very deep in there. But the idea that that is baked in, that that will always be the case. It's the same thing that people always said about James Burnham, right? That what James Burnham did is identify what's currently happening and said that will be the case forever. Where it's like, look, like in the grand scheme of things, how long has this special interest group been at the fore, like of American politics? I mean,

hardcore? I mean, what? 70 years, right? 80 years? And we can get really fine about it. But, like, you know, there's still people alive who remember the preexisting time. Like, this isn't the default state of being. And I don't mean to minimize the amount of control they have, but like, there's still people, you know, this is still a solvable problem. And the idea that until that happens, nothing can be done to make your life in any way better is exactly the same thing as the in cell sitting at home saying, until we go back to handmade style patriarchy, I won't talk to a girl, right?

It's like, okay, you're just giving yourself an excuse for never get anything fucking done. Yeah, it's a self-perpetuating spiral into, you know, negativity. And the other thing to your point, Jay, what you're saying about like the waning influence of a certain lobby group, in this particular case, we're talking about Israel, but it could be anything,

is who the president is surrounded by. And Trump, you know, you could say what you want about Hague Seth and Rubio and who's the other guy, Huckabee. We've talked about them at length on this show. There are nothing compared to Blinken and Newellyn and fucking Dick Cheney Rumsfeld. I mean, it's a totally different group of people. They're totally different generation. And they're not as entrenched. And they're not as diehard either.

And they came up under totally different circumstances. and Kurt Mills talks about this on Tucker. I've never heard of Kurt Mills before. I don't know if you guys are familiar with his work, but he's great. He talks about this. He says, you know,

I think one of you people, you might have said this earlier on this show, that he's not surrounded by the same type of people. And he's also not in anyone's pocket. That's the thing. Biden was in Colomoisky's pocket. Victoria Newland was in his pocket. Blinken had a very close ties.

with them. No one here has any of that. If anything, it's on the other side. It's on the pro-Russian side of Ukraine that Trump's people are aligned with. Well, one of the points that I like that they made was about Steve Whitkoff.

Yeah, he's another one, yeah. Jewish, real estate, New York guy. And he's like, well, Trump just asked him to go to Israel and said, well, didn't ask him, told him to go to Israel and said, get a piece deal done. You just have to do what you have to do.

Whitkoff is not anti-Israel. Whitkoff's a Jew. He's not anti-Israel. I don't know that he's a quote-unquote Zionist. But he went there. He told them that you're going to do this. You're going to do this. And it happened like one day.

It took like one day. Yeah. And I mean, there's a legend out there that he went there on Shabbat and made them like, you know you're still going to meet with me and everything. I don't know that that's true or anything like that. But he went there and he got it done. And he didn't go there like Anthony Blinken and go, I'm here as a Jew as far as I know.

And Anthony Blinken went there to help them do whatever they can. And Whitkoff went there and said, stop, just stop. And I don't know Netanyahu's motivations for saying that that Palestinians can go back into North Gaza, they could be completely nefarious. But they went there and let

him know, didn't go there and bend the need to him. But there are still people who are going to listen to this and be like, well, you don't know that. This is all it up. This is all being orchestrated behind the scenes. This is all Jewish. Everything.

It's like, And I've heard Whitkoff is going to do the Iran. They're going to send him to Iran to negotiate this. I think one of the great things that Mills said in that was Trump needs to get rid of the JCPOA, which is basically the Obama peace deal, and do the Trump peace deal. It's the beauty of that podcast that he did with this guy, Kurt Mills, who I had never heard of before, is apparently he's with the editor for the American conservative,

which would make you think, this guy should be on their side. But the beauty of that podcast is, it's basically, we know that Trump and people in Trump's orbit listen to Tucker. They respect Tucker. Tucker was at the inauguration.

Tucker is close to Trump. Tucker can text Trump. He's, they're basically, basically saying this is what you have to do mr president yeah if you don't do this we are going to you Tucker is trump's biggest fan if Tucker turns on Trump on issues it's going to be it's it's going to be bad for Trump does a lot of people listen to Tucker and you know Trump is one of those people who he's not I don't know maybe he's a vanguardist now but he's not a vanguardist He wants to be loved.

And if there's a bunch of people out there who are like on the right who are like, I voted for you and you didn't give me this, you're doing this and this is against what I want. It's the brilliance of this podcast. I think this is one of the most important podcasts. Not because it's waking up normies. Right. Okay? Right.

Because he's speaking directly to Trump and Trump's orbit. And it's that orbit trusts and looks at Tucker. And it's almost like Tucker is trying to speak something into existence to go to Stormy and my, you know, the episodes that we're doing on the metaphysical, on the intention. He's throwing the intention out there of getting something done. And he's expecting it to be done. Dude, did you catch the part in that episode? I'll link it, by the way, because everybody listening has to listen to it. Did you catch in that episode where he was talking about Europe being suicidal and he doesn't know why,

but he thinks there's something nefariously spiritual going on there? Supernatural element causing Western Europeans to want to kill themselves. Yes, exactly. Exactly. It's not funny, but I'm laughing because that's what Stormy and Peter talking about. that's what they've been talking about. I'll have to link those episodes too. Storm, are you there?

Well, the second one's not out until Tuesday, but supporters have had it for a while, though. Okay, because, yeah, I knew it was recorded. I didn't know it was out and wasn't out for free yet. There is both a metaphysical and physical, or a corporeal reason, I think, for what Europe is doing. One of it is, so another thing that, you know, in the stormy was right episode.

The rap, something I called, I think, on Pete's show, on Jay's show, and one of my earliest shows with U.S. was the rapid devaluation of European currencies as the sovereign debt begins to roll over. When I first told you this, the euro was at. a dollar 56. It's now a dollar three, a dollar two, depending on the day. Pound was a dollar 80, now a dollar two, sorry, a dollar 20. So both the currencies, and particularly most of the movement happened in the last six to eight months, as things got really, you know, COVID bought them. COVID was a scam. I won't, everybody knows it was a scam, but they don't actually know why the scam happened and it wasn't to sell vaccines. I thought it was.

to steal the presidency. No, it wasn't that, it wasn't that either. I mean, they could have, it's liquidity. All this is, we're talking about tens of trillions, a hundred trillion. A hundred trillion, don't give a fuck about it. Like, the presidency, okay. But whatever. This is a lot more money.

Canadian dollar, same thing. Right. So the rapid devaluation, as these things kind of, Unwind. I made a little list. Astro was, for dear listeners, Astro was asking me to put together a list of all the calls. So I think I did them.

I think I did at least most of it. But one of the things that is happening is the U.S. government is going to drastically downsize. It has to. The same reason why deportation is suddenly on the table in Europe. They're trying to buy themselves more time. Oh, yeah. All right. The deal, without getting into it, I can later, whatever, if we have time, explain why the mass immigration allows the debt bomb to roll a little bit further.

Absolutely have to talk about that. All right, we'll do that later. You can wait if you want to do it later. Yeah, I'll do. Yeah, just somebody jot down a note, but, right, so this bubble, this derivatives bubble that's collapsing is few. by liquidity. And liquidity needs treasuries. The treasury market allows basically a fig leaf of cover for otherwise completely uncollateralized debt. So that would mean like, so what if I just gave you a mortgage to your house, astral, but I didn't ask for the deed

to be held until that debt was paid off. That'd be a terrible loan. You wouldn't want to do that. You'd be like, fuck, what if you just decide not to pay me? That's uncilateralized debt. But they need at least, you know, we'll call it like 2% and 98%. They need at least one or 2% treasuries. And then they'll put, then they'll hypothesate the other 98%.

Right, right before COVID happened in our August of 2019, there was something called the reverse repo crisis, a liquidity crisis. There wasn't enough treasury. There wasn't enough dollar-denominated reserve assets. So this thing, the Trump doing what he's going to do, doge doing what he's going to do, is going to drastically shrink the U.S. budget, which means if the budget gets cut by, my prediction was at least 20%, which would be insane. The rest of the world would see that it's such a signal.

It would be, I mean, people are like, oh, well, we got $37 trillion of debt. The market always front runs everything. So if I see Donald Trump cutting massive spending, reorganizing the entire, how do these fucking global homo, the whole of government response, if he's restructuring government to drastically downsize it, laying off all of the federal employees, which he's doing en masse, freezing all the agency spending. By the way, there's 480 executive branch agencies. That's not including all the committees and advisory boards and regulatory boards.

If we were to add all those up, it's roughly about 1,800 federal agencies. And Trump, on day one, froze all of their spending. Right? So like things like the inflation reduction act or whatever the green new deal, whatever these, you know, single to double digit trillion dollar bills that the Biden Hunter pushed through Congress, right? Just because they get signed into law doesn't mean that that money gets spent right then and there, right? That's what appropriations are for. Right. So that money will be spent over five, six, seven years. So if Trump comes in and be like, yeah, I know we have appropriated a trillion

dollars, but I think we spent enough money already and I don't think I'm going to spend the rest of it, even though it's appropriated. The Inflation Reduction Act doesn't mandate that money be spent. It just appropriates it. Right. So Trump already cut that fucking inflation reduction act in half because half the money wasn't even spent yet. Now it's not going to be. Right. Freezing all agency spending, freezing all agency hiring. All this means that the government is going to have to borrow less money. Well, how does the government borrow money? It creates treasury bonds. So by Donald Trump shrinking the government and or freezing spending, you are creating the very liquidity crisis that these people have been moving hell and earth to avoid.

You know, you can go back into my episode with Astral that we did on the back of Thomas 7-7's season finale to explain all of what I'm talking about. But the fact that he is doing this and pulling troops out of Germany at the same time, because the Europeans were like, all right, if we don't have somebody to blame this on, if we don't have martial war powers at the time that this fucking bomb goes off, we're going to end up with our heads on spikes. right so then the french and the british are hell bent on starting world war three with russia for america to come in and fix it for them like we did in world war one and like they managed to do in world war two this time trump's not doing it and how do you signal to nato that we are not coming to fucking bail you out well you pull 20,000 troops out of germany and you're like well guess we're not coming to bail you out so i guess i'm going to go ahead and shrink the budget

I don't care if you blow up financially. And that's what he's doing. At the same time, he's trying to cause regime change in the UK. Yeah, and Germany. Yep. Isn't that funny? It's crazy. He's pulling troops off the border.

Why would he want to be regime changing the UK and Germany? I haven't been able to figure that out. Well, if you knew that the UK, was really the force behind the UK and Zionist inside the US were responsible for the Ukraine war period to create the Casas Beli for NATO. Yeah. It's a city of London. You knew that these two governments, the UK, well, to say Germany, are hell bent on starting World War III with Russia because they know that they have literally just in the uncolateralized stuff, 80 trillion. 80 trillion. Everybody cries about the U.S. debt, 30 trillion, whatever.

We got the deepest fucking capital markets in the world. I don't give a shit. All right. We could sink 30 trillion in twice. A bunch of European countries with an 80 trillion dollar derivative bubble, that's a big problem. And before people get confused and nitpick, unless you understand the function of the city of London, this is all going to sound hyperbolic and nonsensical, and that's its own separate fucking thing. So these guys are hell or high water. They're going to try and get a war with Russia. They deployed very large troop formations in Kursk, secretly, without telling their population, on Russian soil.

That's happening right now. So if you're President Donald Trump, you get inaugurated on Monday. And you're now finding out all of this. the very first thing you do, you stop Gaza, now you have to move on to Europe. Okay, well, the Europeans are trying to start this war. And the more I try and shrink the government, the more they're going to escalate and or false flag, how do I tell them that no matter what, false flag, no false flag, two battalions, 10 battalions, get wasted and cursed, no matter what you do, the U.S. is not.

going to commit to Article 5. No matter what you do with Russia, we will not be coming this time. Well, you pull all those troops out of Germany. And in the meantime, how do you buy yourself time before you get inaugurated? Because they started doing this three weeks ago. Well, you bring in Elon Musk to literally cause the biggest political shitstorm in UK history in the meantime to keep them occupied. It does the same thing in Germany. So two days after I found out that those troops went into Kursk, whether they did or not, and no one's going to be able to confirm or, you know, whatever, you can go ask an MI6 friend. Two days after that happened, Elon Musk starts going in on Kirstarmer's government. Coincidence? I don't know. Anyways, that's why we're trying to do

regime change in the UK. And honestly, they fucking deserve it. But not just for this, but World War I and World War II, you're lucky. Sometimes I wonder whether the world would just be more simple if the only atom bomb that got dropped in World War II landed on the city of London. Sorry, that was a lot. The people who created that bomb actually wanted it to be dropped on Berlin, so I guess. Germany must perish, right? Yeah.

Well, I mean, what we're seeing is obviously a restructing. structuring while we were sitting here. I mean, this is completely anecdotal. A buddy of mine contacts me and says, says, I want to share that I have dealings with a lot of federal vendors and employees and things are nuts for them right now. He says, my neighbor, a federal employee and known LibTard, is retiring this year so that they don't have to go back into the office or see things with Don E.T.'s portrait in the office.

and I think that's another one of the, when you realize it was like a perfect storm of being able to get rid of people. Because if they're working from home and assuming they have a second job, which they probably do, because they're not, they're most likely not doing their government job. This is a great way to get people out. And we know that we have to get people out. We know that the size of government has to be shranked dramatically in order to, to do the kind of financial, the kind of financial healing eventually that needs to be done in order to keep us going. That's a really interesting point, Pete.

Obviously, again, the like, you know, right-wing wet dream is basically, you know, walking into the Oval Office and then sort of, you know, quote Trump, just saying, you're fire. at everyone in the federal government, right? Pack it up and go. But, you know, much like immigration, you certainly can do that, but it's a more economical move, right? You expend less capital if you just change people's incentives, right? So for instance, you don't literally have to load up 10 million people into a C-130 and, you know, ship them back to wherever they belong. I mean, that'd be fun. But what you can do is, obviously that happens. Like we've seen Trump literally say, if you are in the DEI office, you're gone, right?

But also, you know, by changing the incentives, by basically treating your government job as a job with real responsibilities, all of a sudden the type of people who want government jobs for all the wrong reasons, right? The kind of sinecures of the state, they react to those incentives, right? They say, I want to go elsewhere. And so, again, this seemed like a nothing, right? Like, oh, just why would he do that? Why would he say they have to come in the person? Well, one, because the data on that is the people prefer working from home, right?

Given the choice they'd rather do it. So it's creating a barrier of entry to government jobs, right? And also, let's be honest, if you have a government job, you can do remotely, it's probably not that important, right? These aren't exactly our like, you know, the soldiers manning Fort Knox. So, you know, I think that really it was a very, very good move. And, you know, to look at all of these executive orders, I think one of the most shocking contrasts between Trump Round 1 and Trump Round 2 is that this was very clearly highly prepared.

Right. We were talking earlier about, you know, the fact that Trump has deployed troops to the border. The fact that that happened within just a few hours of him being sworn in indicates that there was pre-planning on this. You know, you and I have a mutual contact with some military experience. And what he said is to do this, you'd need a month, right, to prep, to get it going. And, all right, let's say he's off. Let's say it's two weeks. Well, it didn't take two weeks.

It took a couple hours. You can't organize a church picnic in a couple hours, let alone a foreign. scale military operation. And so regardless of your opinions on Trump, this indicates that he has institutional support of some variety of another. And that means there is a faction in power that is one aligned with Trump and two interested in securing the border. And that's a really interesting thing because what we saw in 2016. Oh, but I thought the regime want Trump. The regime want Trump to put in, you know, Kamala just a jobber. Well, and the reason that I bring this up is because I think that if the purpose of this

podcast is to basically like lambast and identify certain kind of common failings on the internet right, I think one of them is one that you were sort of aping there, stormy, which is the regime is this like evil monolith, right? Very clearly what we've seen is the birth of a secondary interest group, or at least the political emergence who knows how long it's been there. And I think that's really interesting because obviously this is not a pure MAGA project, right? Trump is not getting this level of organization with your crazy Facebook boomer aunt, right? There are real serious people behind this. And we see that both because of what he is able to do in such a short term, right? But also because a lot of these are

very, very well thought out. And this is the kind of experience that you would have to know about Washington to know about the system to be able to do. Like, all right, okay, maybe he gets lucky once, but to drop all of these all at once with nothing leaked and then act on it like that, I mean, it speaks to the level of organization that he has standing behind him. Well, and let's, let's just be honest, there are a bunch of people who are just going to be like, the plan trusters are going to be like, well, you know, he was, he was in charge the whole time and everything. But, yeah. I mean, it's very obvious that there were people.

I mean, he had what, two months? Is that what it is from November 6th? If there wasn't a power faction, he would have been dead. Yeah. Let's just be real. So you can say the regime wants at him. And I think as you clearly explain, yeah, people working inside the regime and people coordinating inside the regime and

this just goes to show that that word no one wants to use conspiracy conspiracies happen and you can get people organized behind the scenes and ready to go and he's not the first president who's done this I mean Ronald Reagan famously

on the day he was inaugurated the hostages left Iran because apparently someone was working behind the scenes. What I'm seeing is a lot of what we wanted and a lot of people who are really having a hard time with this because first of all, they don't know how to deal with Ws. And second of all, because a W to them is everything they want, as we've already stated.

and they think everything can be done in five days and not everything here that needs to be done can be done in five days. He needs certain people in place in order to do this. I mean, look at Secretary of State. Rubio gets confirmed. And in two days, he's in South America. He's going down to Panama. And they're going to, we're going to, I mean,

I don't know for 100% sure, but I'm 95% sure we're going to have control back over the Panama Canal. What are they going to do? What is the Panaman government going to do? What is China going to do? Same thing the Colombian president just did. Yeah, I mean, we're recording this on the day when the Colombian president, the United States sent two plain loads of Colombian illegals back to Columbia and he's like no we're not going to take them here you have to be you have to be humane

and everything it's like well I mean you have you know you have to respect them it's like okay you see you respect them so much you don't want them back in your country that that sounds great and not only do you see not only does he immediately say we're going to put 25% tariff on things but then he comes to out and says, and we're kicking basically every diplomat, every representative of the Colombian government out of this

country. And then a half hour later, he is, the Colombian president is not only sending his own planes to get these people, but now he is being excoriated on Twitter

with a frigging tweet showing him, showing, oh, here's the very, here's the married president of Columbia in another country walking hand in hand with a trans woman. I mean,

this, they were ready for this. I mean, this is this level of organization is impressive. But you also have to understand that this was, they've been organizing this for a while. Project 2025.

Everybody's like, see? I saw John Cooper, who's blocked me on Twitter a long time ago, go, see, see, they said that they didn't do any all of this was project 2025 yeah we lied motherfucker fuck you well there's another

everybody thinks the Pentagon and the executive branch are their own things or there are all one thing right when I urge everybody to go back to I mean we said it in Syria on a previous episode of this show

we talked about Syria And also we talked about what happened in Ukraine. Right. President Biden, two troops in Poland, comes out and says, this time, next month, you're going to be in Ukraine. And somebody from the fucking Joint Chiefs of Staff, when was the last time you ever saw somebody from the Joint Chiefs of Staff on TV?

Come out and say everything the President said was bullshit. And the very next day, the White House comes out and says, yeah, everything the president just said is bullshit. If you haven't been paying attention to how the U.S. government's been operating over the past, just the Biden administration, and you can't see that there are two factions, and one faction is clearly represented by DOD and DOD adjacent people who don't want to go to war with Russia and who don't want to go to war with, Iran trying to stop the insanity of mostly Jewish people, either through loyalty to Israel or resentment

from Russia, or resentment to Russia, try and start wars with both Iran and with Russia. In fact, in that Tucker episode, Tucker tells you exactly which people these are. I'm not good with, I know Victoria Newland and a bunch, really they're all the same to me. Anyways. There are factions in power. The thing that pisses me off the most about a certain UK person, his interpretation of politics, not just to mention this wrong, is simple. Is Jewish power real? Is the power real?

Yes. Yes. The power is real. Okay, if the power is real, then de facto, the competition for that power is also real. You can't have power without competition for it. To Pete's point earlier, you know, I don't know how we can confirm this, but there's a report out on Twitter that says President Trump is in talks with El Salvador President Naib Ukele on the creation of a safe third country. agreement. This agreement would allow the U.S. to deport non-Savodorian migrants to El Salvador and also block them from requesting asylum in the U.S. So you see all these news headlines about

the president of Colombia, as Pete mentioned, the president of Mexico is not allowing their planes to land. So what's Trump going to do? Oh, okay, I guess we got to keep all these people. No, they're taking immediate action to make this shit happen. These people are serious. There's no way that they just cook this up, you know, on day one. This has been their plan. from the jump or going back before they even won the presidency that they were going to be doing all this. And they were prepared for these contingencies and I don't think they're going to be stopped.

Jay, you were going to say something. Not everybody in the U.S. government hates America. Remember that great reset slide deck, the one that everyone was making fun of, the one that probably costs the World Economic Forum, really all of its legitimacy, that you will own nothing and be happy. It's a 12-page deck.

12 slides. The last two slides are the most important. And the second slide is also the most important. So those three slides, right? Because these people roll out agendas two years in advance, Aidan-P-R, if you ever want to know where all of these global narratives come from, the two weeks to flatten the curve, safe and effective, apart but together, all the dumb shit from COVID, build back better. Comes from Edelman PR. They're the Sciop factory. Have been since I ran Contra.

Adelman PR was the people that came up with that deck. And the last two slides are, the U.S. will no longer be a world superpower, a world military superpower. And the last slide is, the U.S. military. will come under control of an international consortium of European faggot chomos. You know who doesn't like the idea of what is the U.S. military? Well, it's the most powerful killing machine ever been created. And whoever wields that power can kill anyone at any time and any place

and however many of them that they want to kill. And that makes you de facto the most powerful person in the world. If I can kill anybody anywhere, anytime, and however many anybody's I want to, in real power, that makes me the most powerful. And if I wield that power, I may not like the idea of giving it up to a bunch of European commie faggots and their international consortium of commie faggots. I may like being in power and I might want to keep doing it. And the second slide is a central bank digital congoats.

currency slide. Well, that pretty much kills banking. If you're a bank that's in business and not a bankrupt European one, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, Barclays, I might like the idea of staying in business, especially if I'm Jamie Diamond, who we found out has been advising Trump for years. Big surprise to everybody except for me. You get to take my little victory lap now. That means why do bankers want to get behind Donald Trump and why are they only U.S. bankers? Well, Jamie Diamond has spent every dollar he's ever made on Wall Street buying J.P. Morgan stock. He's the chairman and the CEO because he fucking owns that much. Like Elon Musk gets to be the CEO and chairman of Tesla because he fucking owns that much.

It's his company. J.P. Morgan is Jamie's company. And Jamie may not like the idea of his life's work going up in smoke and him not. and him not getting to be the head of the most powerful financial institution in the world. And he might not like the idea that that power and this thing that he built goes to some fucking pantsuit wearing drag queen like Elizabeth Warren, some shrieking shrew, right, that knows nothing, has never done anything. These pathetic losers in government, you're telling me, Wall Street guys, guys that fucking

these are probably outside of people that actually fight and kill other people. These are probably the most raging fucking, you know, hyper-masculent type of individuals that you can find because really in their world, it really is as close to combat as you can get, except for, you know, one person goes bankrupt instead of the morgue. But that's all they think about is basically ways to kill each other financially. You tell me that person, is going to like the idea of AOC or Elizabeth Warren being in control of the U.S. monetary system

and gets to decide who gets loans and who does in, who gets to run the stock market. Absolutely fucking not. About as much as the Joint Chiefs of Staff, like a bunch of Eurocombe faggots, wielding the power of the U.S. military to go enforce global sodomy and faggotry. I don't see this possible. So right there, off the top, there are two separate power factions that are not aligned with the regime. If power is real, then competition for that power is real.

I'll get off off my hobby horse now. Well, if nobody else has anything stormy, there was a, uh, uh, uh, Trump spoke at Davos and said, uh, Bank of America.

Remember he called out Bank of Americans so they had to stop debanking conservatives. Did you say Bank of America was like one of the people? It's not an American bank. Yeah. Bank of America is only American in name.

And the fact that they're trying to convince you that blatantly that they are American should tell you that they're not. Look up the ownership structure of Bank of America. It's an Italian and French bank. that moved into the U.S. Bank of America and Citibank are Rothschild Bank. It used to be Bank.

It used to be Bank of Italy out of San Francisco, I think. Yep. And that's what it was originally called. Yeah. This is why it's always Bank of America that's on board with all the Davos ship. So, yeah, Bank of America, since Citibanks fall from grace,

Bank of America really was, um, well, call them you can call it like city of london you can call it world jewelry whatever you like it really they are interchangeable have been since the 1700s when they thoroughly took over really they thoroughly controlled the year the british financial system by the end of 1950 with the euro dollar and then by the end of 1960 They took this unfair advantage, this privilege that was supposed to go to the Bank of England and the Crown,

hijacked it through some Jeffrey Epstein shit into a private institution called Midlands Trust Bank. Midlands Trust Bank was owned entirely by the Rothschildtel family. And the privilege to print, or basically issue dollar-denominated loans, as in like lend in dollars, create dollars, was given to this private institution. And at that point in time, the U.S. had already gone home and forgotten about it. They didn't forget about it. And they use this artificial system to basically undercut all the regular, you know, banks in Europe. So when I say like European commie faggots, world jewelry, like these Davos people,

I'm all talking about the same people. They're all the same people. Because for the last nearest makes no difference, 80 years, the global financial system, using the offshore dollar market, the euro dollar system, has been controlled by five or six Jewish private banking families in Europe. One of those private banking families are on all of Israel's money. All right. They created the Balfour Declaration.

And the Balfour Declaration was repayment from the British state to this private banking family that convinced the British crown that they could get America into World War II on the side of the UK. And they did because Roosevelt, well, go watch Pete and I show on the robber barons. I think episode one pretty much hammers that issue out. All right. So these people are the people that founded Israel. The Knesset building, all right, their parliament building is named after this family. This family is in all their money.

And they're more Rothschild streets in Israel than there are Martin Luther King Boulevard's in America. So it really is all one fucking thing. And that thing is taking fucking L after L lately. since the inauguration. Also at Davos, Jamie Diamond said he backs Trump's tariffs that good for national security. He didn't just say that. He said sometimes national security supersedes economics.

What banker would tell you that? It's almost like he has a counterpart in the defense establishments. Not an individual, but we're talking coalitions. right why would jimmy nudge the fuck about national security over global banking oh i know that it was the first time you ever contacted me you asked me to look at the board of jp morgan chase and tell and tell me what was there yeah what was there so what was there and what wasn't there well the only people who were part of a certain tribe are lawyers who don't get to make decisions

It was former intelligence and former like Pentagon military. That's who's on the board of J.P. Morgan Chase, along with Jamie Diamond. Why? Because J.P. Morgan is the financial arm of U.S. foreign policy. J.P. Morgan is, I won't get into too much about it, but J.P. Morgan controls 95% of the global bullion market. So when Jerome Powell started raising rates, Jerome Powell, the guy that used to work for Jamie Diamond,

right, not at J.P. Morgan Chase. J.P. Morgan owns and is or primary in hundreds of funds, hundreds of private equity funds, hundreds of hedge funds, and all these other different financial institutions. Right. So I believe Powell ran a P.E. fund. that was under the J.P. Morgan wing, which is a very big wing. And Jerome Powell started cranking up the interest rates. And again, if, you know, you're aware that the global monetary system is fake, when you start cranking up the interest rates,

money starts pouring into the country that has the highest interest rates because money will go where it's treated best. So even half a percent more interest, interest, in let's say treasuries over European sovereign debt or Chinese sovereign debt whatever wherever's got the pay in the highest

big is going to get the most dollars and Jerome Powell made sure the highest big was America. When Jerome Powell first raised the interest rate even a quarter of a percent you drained the world of four trillion dollars in capital in a month and a half so he's been having he's been having Jerome Powell crank that interest rate lever because he knew that everyone was

swimming naked. And when the money rolls away, all these people that are overextended, all these countries that have been overextended, an astral on your podcast that I, that we went on after our show with Thomas, I talked about how this mechanism works. But basically, he made every central bank basically show its hand that it was insolvent and you've seen central bank gold buying off the fucking charts more in the last year than in the last 60 years central banks are desperate for collateral because their ass is hanging out in the breeze and they've got way too much debt and not enough right there's there's it's like a one million dollar mortgage on a hundred thousand dollar house that makes lenders real full.

fucking scared and want their money back. So they've been trying to backstop their reserves. And the only way you do that is with gold. Well, if JP Morgan and Jamie Diamond control 95% of the global bullion market, that just makes Jamie Diamond the most important man in the world. And now he can decide whose central bank gets gold and whose doesn't. Yeah. It's fucking brilliant, man.

It really, I wish I was that smart. But this has obviously been planned for several years now. What about unlimited immigration and the financial situation? What were you saying about that before? I don't know. I thought you and I, I was trying to convince you that Trump wasn't going to import a million H-1B visa immigrants from India for Elon Musk. How does that look now? Well, I don't know for sure, but you were saying earlier that the financial situation, because in that Tucker interview with Kurt Mills, he said that there should have been higher inflation in America after COVID, but there wasn't.

And I think he said he doesn't really understand why that happened. I do. Because all those treasury bonds were scooped up by Europe through British Virgin Islands. and a couple of those little Tax Haven islands, and the Eurozone officially bought some. But they bought about eight times as many unofficially. So all those treasuries, instead of going to create new loans, which would cause inflation, right?

Because you know how reserves work, right? So the bank takes a treasury bond, puts it on its balance sheet, and it says, this is reserves now, and I'm going to go lend nine times or ten times whatever I have in reserves. So when treasuries go out the door, new dollars get printed through loans. But if you have tens and tens and tens of trillions of dollars in bad loans, those treasuries are going to be going and covering up all those bad loans to backstop those bad loans and they're not going into new loans. That's why.

So what about? Yeah, what about immigration? why do they need to run their schemes why do they need unlimited immigration unlimited immigration is unlimited government spending also it is political instability right if you were afraid of Donald Trump well yeah that we can go to all the reasons that that poll that immigration is bad for nationalism I think many other people have hammered that out thoroughly but the things that Trump needs to do are going to be inflationary. Not just right now, but down the road. So how do you stop inflation from hurting America? Well, I can either, A, force every company in the country to give

Americans a raise and hire Americans only, right? Increase their quality of living and their quality of life, or I can just end the way that they have been using to undercut Americans and destroy their quality of life. What did Stephen Bessent say to the Senate when he was getting confirmed? Specifically about immigration, do any of you guys remember? No. Pete, I know you do. I don't.

It's escaping me right now. I forget. No. Well, one of the senators is asking like, oh, well, we need immigration to do this, you know, because the GDP. And Steve Besson goes, yeah, I can't remember. If somebody remembers it better than me, I hate to quote him horribly or butcher the quote. But he basically says, oh, well, if immigration is what drives GDP,

why don't, instead of a wall, why don't we just build a big bridge over Tijuana, a big one? and then we just have everybody in the whole world come to America right now and live here. We'll have the greatest GDP in the whole world. And he's being sarcastic. And he goes, we may have the greatest increase in GDP in history, but the Americans that live here, they will have the most rapid decline in quality of life and in, I can't remember how he said it,

but basically you will collapse the financial condition of the American people that live here, and you will destroy their quality of life. And that's why trying to drive GDP through immigration is a terrible idea and basically shame on you for doing it. So basically the Treasury is now saying the same thing as Trump is. Seems like a short-term thing, too. They can't go on forever. So, okay, so why do you think we're not getting, why do you think they're going to?

Legal immigration or legal immigration doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Steve Besson is telling you that you can no longer drive fake GDP numbers. Fake GDP numbers allow the government to print more money. If GDP goes up, that means the government gets to borrow more and spend more. you're trying to make the government spend less, borrow less. You're shrinking the balance sheet. You're shrinking the supply of treasury bonds around the world.

So if you're shrinking, you don't need to pump GDP through fucking immigration. Because immigrants provide two things. A, they need money in government programs. Okay, so right now, I think 30% of our total. total GDP is government spending, which means it's fake. Where does that government spending go? Each one of these fucking brownoids coming across the fucking border gets $10,000 a month debit cards. We spend a trillion dollars a year giving them free health care. At the state and the federal level, obviously the state is then paid for by the federal government.

So you have to add the state and the federal together. right California spends what $800 billion and fucking free shit to my or $8 sorry $90 billion $100 billion something like that that's just in free hospital care not the free child care that they get right because every H1B person

brings their entire family that's the racket everyone's been seeing the shit on Reddit right Pete have you been seeing the stuff on Reddit where the Indians are crying like I can't have kids now my little anchor baby scheme isn't going to work so me and my eight aunties can get free health care and all get welfare yeah so what would have been h1b person yeah this is the government's numbers for every h1b person they bring on average five additional family members yeah i know i know the h1b scheme yeah so basically 80% of those people brought over.

So basically, out of those six people, the H-1B and the other five assholes that they brought, it's only the H-1B person that isn't signing up for welfare the very first day. So for every one H-1B person, you're bringing in five welfare recipients. On average, about $70,000 in government benefits per person. So it's not just you take jobs away from Americans. You ever notice The businesses and the corporations Don't complain about that?

Why? Because those people are spending that money at their businesses. Bingo. That's how you crank fake GDP through immigration. Pete just hit the nail right on the head. For every dollar, the government gives these scumbags. They go spend at Walmart. Walmart's not going to come out against mass immigration.

No corporation, no big business is going to come out against immigration because they know that they're coming here, they're getting free money and they're going to spend it with them. That is why the whole libertarian it's a private company, bro, they can do

what they want. Yeah, well look what they're doing. Look what they're doing. Go ahead, defend that. Bingo. Defend that. Just end the state, bro. Pete just hit the nail on the head. That's exactly. That answers the question, Astral. That's

why? So why don't you think the H1B things? I mean, I know why you think the H1B thing's not going to happen, but what,

what has happened recently? Vivek is no longer part of Doge, which is nice. I mean, that guy's fucking... No, he's fired. Well, I know,

but supposedly the story is there, he's going to run for governor of Ohio, but I think he's... Yeah, but then Trump wouldn't have come out publicly and said that he fired him.

Yeah, but what evidence do you see, though, that the H-1B thing 's going to reformed. Do I need to spell this out to you? Well, you did, but I'm just saying that something happens since then? Yeah. The Treasury is telling you that they're on board.

Which means that Oh, the Jamie Diamond thing? Yeah, well, so not just Jamie Diamond. Stephen Besson was Jamie Diamond's pick, obviously. Scott Besson. Scott Besson, I keep on saying Steve Besson. Right. So this is basically telling you that Trump

doesn't give a fuck about the drop in GDP numbers. Right. That's good. Because all the GDP was fake. Right. The goal is to stop government spending. And that means that the administration is aware that the immigration thing just is a purpose of draining wealth out of America. Yes. But when we drain our wealth and spend it on immigrants, we create more debt.

that gets turned into treasury bonds that the rest of the world can use to backstop their currencies with. The rest of the world needs them. So this is the thing. The rest of the world needs the U.S. government to not just not reduce spending, but increase spending. This is what globalization is. None of this works unless the U.S. government keeps spending an insane amount of money more than it can afford. You cannot decrease the government's balance sheet without sending all these. Globalization was fake. China didn't pull half a billion people out of poverty. We did. South Korea didn't turn itself into a bombed out shithole into a first world country. We did. Sorry Japan, but you two. Europe, same thing. And now that we built up all these economies,

they need us to keep spending and impoverishing our people for them to continue working. So literally the rest of the entire world is against U.S. nationalism. And Trump's telling you who doesn't give a shit, right? If GDP goes down, that means the amount of treasury bonds going out the door in government debt goes down. Trump shrinks the government. that means the amount of treasury bombs going out the door, right, that these people then turn into, you know, fake money goes down. And since this is all debt-driven, not only can the system not slow down without breaking, but if it backwardates at all, it seizes, like convulses.

Right. Some people on the right have correctly said that in a perpetual growth, right, debt-driven economy, which is what was created after World War II, that the system has to continue growing every single year. It cannot go backwards. Because it needs to, because everyone needs to get paid interest. If you and I live on an island and it's only the two of us, A, it would be terrible. But B, if I lent you $10 at 10% interest, and it's the only $10 I have, and you don't have any money, right, I give you the $10, where are you going to find at the end of the year the $1 in interest to pay me if there's only $10 on the island? You have to go somewhere else to find it. The system can't go backward at all. And that means Trump knows what he's doing. He knows what the economic chaos is going to fucking, he knows what's happening. This is the biggest white pill for me because I was afraid that the sovereign debt collapse, right? It's not going to be the US,

but I am seriously saying that most of the developed economies of the world are going to fucking have a sovereign debt default. They're either going to have a sovereign debt default or hyperinflation. Some of them are going to get both. This is why every government was on board with COVID. Every government was down because it was the only way the system could continue. We're going to switch for the CBD system and now it doesn't really matter what happens in the U.S. because we get to control the CBDC system. Right?

We get to control global money no matter what the U.S. does. This is why every from Papua New Guinea to fucking everywhere, they were on board. right but what I was afraid is that Donald Trump wouldn't know this going in that this was happening but knowing Jamie Diamond has been advising him from the very beginning means that not only does he know this is going to happen but he's going in and he's structuring his administration and as Pete and and Jay and you can go on and continue so I can tend to drink water um it seems that he's brought a whole bunch of people from private industry, right, guys like Musk, guys like Jamie, I mean, those are the ones I pay attention to, but he's got a whole bunch of people

from industry on board and on his campaign or on his team. So that means he's bringing in business leaders that also now know what the score is. That's why you're not getting any more H-1Bs. Well, I hope you're right, man. Do you want me to go through the list of all the things that I'm right about. I think we did mostly. Jamie Diamond. But anyways, let's move on.

We spent enough time on H-1Bs and I've talked about. Yeah, I think I'm, it's almost midnight here. I think I'm, done, but I want to, if anybody's got anything else. There's a ton of stuff that happened. Yeah, pardon the J-S-6.

The D-E-I's, like. He nuked all the D-E-I's, yeah. Yeah. He's literally turning back the civil rights era. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that that's a really interesting point. In addition, right, there were several other things that I don't think he's done yet, but he said he will. For instance, he said he's going to release the files on JFK, RFK, RFK, and MLK, which is a confusing number of people to try and list out in order. But I mean, look, guys, I know my audience.

How deep do you have to go into the Kennedy assassinations before you get to our favorite Middle Eastern democracy, right? Not particularly deep, as Ryan Dawson can tell us. Now, on the other hand, right, so that's one part of it. The other one is MLK is like the saint of the kind of like liberalism. of yesteryear he's still like very deeply buried in our civic religion uh but even just knowing what we do now right with the limited amount of declassified information uh that does not survive you know that that kind of like rosy picture of him with any actual like contact with the man right and if those documents get out right in addition to the repealing a lot of the civil rights act

I mean, that's a very interesting kind of shift to the, shift to the discourse. One other one, which we haven't mentioned yet, and I think it's actually pretty interesting, is Trump pardoning the 20-some pro-life protesters, right, that the Biden DOJ went after. So he gave a speech to the March for Life, which I think had 150,000 people at it this year. And he spoke about a woman who was 73 years old. who was sentenced to jail for two years. The judge made fun of her for believing in God and then laughed at her husband because he asked to be sent to jail with her because he was worried his wife would die in prison. And not only did Trump pardon her, but Trump basically said like, this is done.

The DOJ is not coming after you anymore. I'm ending it now. And Pam Bodie, I think that's her name, who he is nominated for age. that has been at the forefront of her speeches. And look, again, my point in all of this is, you know, not to to over-emphasize Trump, himself as a man, but also, right, like what is power? Power is the ability to punish your enemies and reward your friends. And what is Trump doing?

He is punishing our enemies, right? Whether it's through foreign aid, whether it's through, you know, forcing these, you know, government workers to either get new jobs or to actually come into work. You know, he's punishing our enemies. And he's rewarding our friends, right? He rewarded the J6 guys. He rewarded these pro-life protesters. And again, we're not done.

We don't need to kick up our feet and say, the West is saved. But this is a win. And, you know, I was DMing back and forth. with Jeremy Carl, right? The guy who wrote The Unprotected Class, the war. The subtitle is something along the line of the war on white Americans. Yeah, isn't it? Well, go ahead.

And what was really interesting is he included a number of policy provisions in that book. I think it was roughly like eight or nine of them were basically directly lifted by the Trump campaign. Like they were like, yep, we're going to do that. And again, like I said, I sort of feel like it's, it's Christmas morning. It would have been Christmas morning if we got any one of these things, right? But we're sort of, we're sort of spoiled now, right? We got, you know, like we were talking about earlier, we got 90% of what we could have reasonably expected. And I think that we need to just take stock of like the situation we're in and compare and contrast that to the mood in 2020, 2021, you know, really up and

until just a few short months ago. And I don't know, take stock. It's a dramatic, dramatic reversal. Yeah, like, I don't want to stop at age 1Bs because this is literally the most exciting time. I think I can remember in my life politically. 100%. Like, this is the most massive.

Pete, have you ever thought that anything like this would be possible? No, man, you know, I know that guys on our side are going to to have different opinions on Ross Oldbrook, but, you know, him pardoning Ross Ulbrook, but, you know, I've known Lynn Oldberg for almost 10 years now. And I remember, you know, Tom Woods and I were talking the other day about her.

And one of the things that we said privately was, like, I met her, I remember being with her in New Hampshire in like 2019, February 2019, and just talking to her. And in my head, I'm going, she's going to, this is

her life trying to get her son out of jail until the day she dies and he is going to die in jail it was just it was a foregone conclusion there was no hope at all and um just seeing that is like i mean i can't believe that that actually happened and um the january 6 prisoners too it's like i thought that if he got back in he might pardon some of them but not all of them apparently at the last minute he was just like fuck it you know pardon them all and you know i didn't just the right i didn't think yeah and i didn't think i'd see you know things like affirmative action you know the the the the executive order it was an executive order any president since then could have overturned it any president could have done it and i mean this is

Wait, affirmative action was a fucking executive order? Yeah. Get the fuck. It was an LBJ, it was an LBJ executive order. Well, concerns. It was, I think, it was eventually put into, it was eventually codified, but, I think it was eventually codified into some, you know, some code. But. Case striking the precedent.

Yeah. Yeah, the case law president. Yeah, but striking that executive order now, now, it just eliminates all of that, just negates it all. So this is, I think, kind of the... That includes disparate impact, right? I don't think disparate, there's disparate impact is a separate, is separate, and I don't think he's addressed that one yet. So I think this is a really interesting point about Trump. That, you know, as someone who's, you know, doesn't have necessarily a long political career, but grew up in red. America. I remember decades of, you know, think pieces, both from, you know, the left and also

from like the Cuck right, right, the David French types that basically said abortion, mass migration, gay marriage is inevitable. You can't do anything to change it. So just accept it. And, you know, I think probably the most important thing Trump has done is completely smash that narrative because it turns out no mass migration isn't inevitable you can just decide to say no like that all of these things with just a you know a relatively small amount of political will can be ended you can say no the adults are back in the room like uh i don't know if you heard Mel Gibson basically said you know dad's back and he took his belt off yeah and that's really all it took. You know, it didn't, and again, it's not done, right? We didn't fix it fully. But so many of

these things were presented as insurmountable issues. But effectively, you know, in many of these cases, we're drowning in a bathtub. And all you need to do is stand up and say, no. Because like this whole great liberal myth of progress, right, forever going one way and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Well, guess what? That myth is fucking over. no you can say no and i think even for that right even just for shifting the bounds of what is seen as possible like trump is easily the most like the most important political figure of our age without question i mean just thinking about thinking about it how these things work because trump is a showman if this is what you did for your opening act

Yeah. How you have to step it up. Like, it's not going to be just like, oh, well, I did all the things the first two weeks. I guess you guys have to hang out and love me for three and a half years. I guess just, you know, we can keep replaying my greatest hits again and again and again. No, where does it? This is, I mean, yeah, I can say, oh, it's not over. But that's not how Trump works.

Trump keeps upping and upping and upping the ante. And I think what also has been changed is the most dramatic cultural shift I've ever witnessed in my life. I mean, I think that we had a lot more friends than we even knew about and people that didn't even know that they were our friends because they probably thought we were crazy because all the things we thought we needed were to them impossible. So being our friends would be pointless, you know, engaging in, you know, you're basically larping or playing dungeons and dragons if you believe. any of these things that these guys believe because it'll never fucking happen.

Yeah, it'd be great to fucking live in a neighborhood with just white people. That'd be amazing, but that's never going to fucking happen. Like, people are thinking differently. Well, call me crazy.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it even looks like the liberal meltdowns aren't as extreme as I expected. I mean, there is not, I think everybody's just kind of collectively like, yeah, shit got crazy for a minute.

They're performative. They're performative. If you watched a meltdown, like on Twitter, the people who are melting down, they're performative. They're, it's everything you've heard before. It's nothing new under the sun. It's just, no one cares.

I don't even, yeah, exactly. Totally. I don't think it's like, it's not as much as you expected, or at least not as much as I expected. I think it's happy. I think TV is very important. I think what CNN just had to lay off

another third of its workforce. Yeah. Sorry, not yesterday. Whatever it would be Friday. This past week. You fire people on Fridays. Yeah. The nation.

I think Trump is going so fucking hard on truth social. He's going so, he's tearing everyone a new asshole. He was mocking CNN. I think that's how I learned about CNN. It was true social. Bro. Was it the old glory club stream?

the other night because you guys went through all the executive orders it was brilliant but i think somebody on the show said that you guys had more listeners than the average like cnnnn morning show in the stream yeah we had we had more we had more views at that time than the average cnn morning show has on youtube at that it yeah yeah i mean i i've been saying it for a while astral i said it to you when I think I first reached out to you, that the zeitgeist is coming to where we are, or to where this is. And this is the place with the hot new ideas.

And I think this is going to be the place of cultural primacy. And you want to get in on the ground floor. Now that it is self-evident, that this is the place with the winning ideas, because that's what Trump's done. Trump's just done the impossible, 10 times in a row, 20 times in a row in a week. So not only is he like, are his ideas de facto correct? He is able to make, because people, the average person is not going to sit down with me for two hours and learn how the global fucking economy works. And why Trump doing this is going to make this happen and this happen and this other thing happen.

And the third thing is going to be what's good for them. They don't have time to do that. but what they've never seen in their fucking life is an executive wave his hand and then get things done yeah like when was the last time you saw a politician say

I'm going to do this and the very first chance he gets he does it and then does more like I don't think people have seen executive action like this yeah I hope he just keeps it going man bro i mean this is going to make the normie so trump-pilled right i don't think that i don't think there's any

political fence-sitters anymore but i think people are going to want to be a part of it right because like okay the reason you want to get in onto the right is because i'm like this is where the cultural primacy is going nobody knows it yet but this is where it's going because this is the place where new ideas are happening. But now that Trump is in and now that things are actually happening, everyone in their fucking mother is going to want to be a part of it. I think I told each one of you at least separately that the real estate you occupy is about to become fucking Fifth Avenue. The audience you have is going to be, it's just going to grow. Yeah. Because where we are is now the place to be.

and all those people in normie i mean fucking how easy is it to ratio joel berry with like zero effort like Rufo still is trying to make up for that fucking Panda Express bullshit like it just flatly won't fly anymore yeah you know I think they hung out

I wanted to talk about Rufo more but it's too late now but i think i saw he's trying to meet up in a while he's trying to claim victory saying that the DEI initiatives are because of him and it's like a little digging on him

I know I know but we got to save it we got to save it because we're at two and a half hours here I got I got to tap out we got to talk about the Manhattan Institute so can we reconvene I think we do can we reconvene soon oh yeah what did

what did Thomas say later that next later this week or this weekend. All right. I mean, this is not the most exciting time to be talking about politics because it's the most exciting time in politics? Yeah, and I,

the one thing I didn't get to was Manhattan Institute. I meant to bring that up and I forgot about it. So let's start with that. Let's make that our next thing. Oh, yeah, because that's exciting. Yeah. It's very relevant. It's extremely relevant.

It's important. And I think it is a lens that we can look through a lot of these pied pipers on the right. Yeah. And I think we need to put him, if Jay's still there, me and Jay talked a lot about James Lindsay. Kind of pretty early on in his whole Woke Right Crusade. I mean, I don't want to say we put our episode out before the Woke Right Crusade started, but it was right at the beginning. And based on what we're seeing now, remember the Panda Express Gate. I want to put Rufo right next to Lindsay, man.

It's just an op. It's just an op. But that's all I want to say about it tonight, because we're two and a half hours in. I got it to bed. How much of all of Republican and conservative dialogue for the last 20 years has been an op? Well, yeah.

And all they do, you're right, is they just jump from platform to platform and they find new people. But it's all the same shit. It's all the same shit. Why is Chris, Grupo telling you the same shit that I need to accept the same quality of life as the fucking American Enterprise Institute. Well, the last thing I'll say is because American Enterprise Institute neocons are the fucking money behind the Manhattan Institute.

There's not much American about the American Enterprise Institute. But like what Jay Burden was saying, how his entire life following conservative politics, people were telling him that mass migration is inevitable. And you need to accept it. And I can't remember what the other three things were. But it just sounded like something a think tank person would say. I think all of these people. There was another thing that just before we leave that was on Tucker, something that I caught that was remarkable because now he sounds like us.

He brought up David, he brought up David Wormser. And he said, David Wormser, he's, he's not even he's not even american he said he's not from this country and david warmser was born in switzerland he is jewish arch neocon that he is an american citizen so tucker is actually saying the same things we say we don't care that he's in a these are american citizens they're not from here their loyalties are not to here i thought that was i picked that up and i was when he said that i was But this episode is going, is going to go certain places. And it certainly most certainly did.

If you want to give anyone listening homework, go, if you haven't listened to that Kurt Mills episode with Tucker, go listen to it. It's going to be one of your top podcasts of all times. It's going in the show notes. It's my favorite Tucker episodes. And man, that's saying a lot because Darry Cooper was on there. That's the fucking homie. But this episode with Mills is ridiculous.

I mean, it's like, it's like us. I mean, we say whatever the fuck we want on here. And those guys are on that level. Yeah, they're not exactly being as harsh as we are. No, but they go all the way, though. Yeah, they go all the way. All right. I got to sign off.

But we're going to reconvene an ASAP, and it's going to be Manhattan Institute. Yeah, I think it'd be funny to take a peek at some of the other people. Like, I think Cerno is saying he's producing a movie. I'd love to know who's financing it. Cerno's different, though. We got to remember, Cerno's a little different. He's a little bit more of a free agent.

He's a free radical. From what I understand. I mean, I don't fuck, what the fuck do I know? But based on what I'm seeing. Rufo, though, Rufo is like totally controlled. Rufo is totally fucking controlled. For anyone at home, if you want to be instantly blocked by Mike Cernovich,

just mentioned the phrase, it tastes like pennies, drives them less. Yes, apparently it does taste like pennies and chemicals, but I'm not brave enough to find out. But luckily he was. He treaded where only gay man had gone before. No one should ever go. Yes. I'll put it this way.

Maybe we can wrap up on this. Yeah, Jay Burton. Like Sertovich seems like the kind of guy who eats a Snickers bar upside down. I'll put it like that. Yeah. Well, at least, you know. I'm going to have to Google that, but that gave me a very bad image. Oh, man. You didn't know what this? Snickers bar, then the vainy part feels like it's on your tongue.

Yeah. Hey, if you have the, if you accidentally, you know, find yourself dancing with a transvestite man, at least have the common courtesy to sucker off, right? Oh, God. Mike Cernovich, conservative leader Also trans-pean enthusiast You know, I have to say I've seen him give several different excuses for that How many excuses you got for sucking Tranpeen? I don't have any said or done it.

He said it's satire, he said someone else wrote it, he said it's a story, someone told him, he said it was a fucking, I mean, what is it? He said, whatever, whatever, fuck him, I don't even care. He's irrelevant, man. He's irrelevant. He seems to be showing up the parties and talking to all the leading conservatives. He has been for a while. He was in that Trump documentary that came out. Remember that Trump?

Trump documentary. He's trying to cozy up with our guys. I think gatekeeping is extremely important right now. He shows up to those parties where you think that probably at the door you're going to be handed to Kippa. Yeah. I think for the most part, most people. Good worms are they're not American. All right, Jen.

I got to wrap up. It is late. I got to wrap up. Thanks for a later, everyone. Take care now. Great time is over. Stay tuned for more.