The Pete Quiñones Show - The Inquisition Part 6 w/ Astral, Thomas777, Stormy Waters, and Pete

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Stormy Waters and me, Astral, your host. And we have a lot to get to. So much keeps happening. What are we? Two weeks into, it feels like 2025 has been several years at this point, with two weeks into the Trump presidency. And a lot is happening. since the last show. So we're going to put that off for part two of today's episode because I wanted

to start out. We haven't actually really explained why did we name this show the Inquisition? Why is it called that? I like to think that it's self-explanatory to an extent. But we're going to take a minute to explain, you know, what the Inquisition has to do with, you know, kind of like our mission here, why we exist. And kind of, in addition to that, you know, this show started because me and Stormy were talking for a long time. I mean, at this point, it's been a couple years. And we've been trying to find a way for me and him to get on the mic and just put out

continuous content. And we noticed a couple of big events happened in the last couple years, particularly October 7th and then the Trump assassination attempt. and now the election of Trump, it looks like things have kind of like sort of resituated themselves and kind of realign. There's been like a realignment on the right wing. And I feel like the dust is kind of settled right now. And we saw an opening.

We saw a riff that formed and people have kind of settled into factions. And we could talk about those factions later. But we saw an opening where nobody's really speaking to the things me and Stormy believe, the way me and Stormy see things. in America and historically as well. So of course, who better to join us than Pete and Thomas? So we'll get to that. But first, we were talking before the show, Thomas and Pete, why we named the show

The Inquisition and Thomas was dropping some knowledge. I'm wondering, Thomas, if you can kind of get back into what you were saying about the reality of the Inquisition. It's one of the most misunderstood and maligned periods in European history. So if you could kind of give us a little bit of a background, we'll take it from there and explain how that relates to what we're trying to do here in our current situation on the American right in 2025. Well, yeah, like I said, I'm not a medievalist and I'm not Roman Catholic, but I do know something

about, I do know something about the subject, particularly as it relates to the development of the modern state and the forces of the Catholic Church in the late medieval and early modern period are it's essential to understand those things to understand the development of the modern state before and alive i made the point that the reason why government workers and people in the administrative element are called they refer to as clerical workers because clerics literally used to be responsible for those domains you know and even magiavelli he he suggested that ferdinand is a bellic created the first modern state in Spain, which is a bit, which is a bit incongruous of the overall trajectory of European political history. I mean, that this happened in Spain. That's a little bit

outside the scope of the discussion. But even as Spain entered like the Westphalian era, arguably spearheaded it, you know, before, um, before the, piece of his failure was even with anybody's contemplation. You know, the Catholic Church constituted kind of the middle layer of the administrative state and obviously enforcing political consensus and preventing subversion of the state by priestly clerical elements was essential. I make the point to people a lot, too. The Inquisition endured for three centuries.

In Spain, during the Civil War, in three years, the communists slaughtered more clergy people in three years than the total number of people executed by the Inquisition over three centuries. There's this idea like, like Randos who are conceptually illiterate, like the Inquisition is like the Crusades. It's like this thing that they have no understanding of.

They have no knowledge of. They can't tell anything about it. But it's some stand-in for something that's really, really bad. But, you know, I, enforcing a consensus is essential. And I mean, obviously, that's kind of the tragedy of the Catholic, the Roman church, is that they're negatively political aberrant.

I'm not saying that punitively. It's just a fact. I'm not down on Catholics or Catholic people where their institutions. But, you know, so that it's hard enough and even in congregational level to prevent people from, you know, subverting doctrine. You know, for somebody like me, you know, that, you know, the thing is if you're a reformed congregant, there's kind of like a readily available metric that kind of preclude that and that's scripture, you know, and despite what people tell you, like, scripture is not just this open-ended thing, you know, it actually, it actually does a concrete meaning. And, you know, it's, it's kind of perfectly invocable as controlling precedent.

But, I mean, that's a short answer as to what the Inquisition was. You know, and obviously there were abuses they were in, because, I mean, there always are in any kind of police apparatus, or, you know, de facto or literal. But, you know, the, more important than the enforcing of a consensus in politics, particularly, like, where we fall on things,

is there's problems that people that's, like, declaring that they're, that they're part of our shit when they're not. Or just, like, declaring that there's some, like, big tent um, sensibility that exists, like, that doesn't. You know, like, I made the point before, like, most of the hate shit I get, it's from these, like, random, like,

conservatives or, like, white nationalist weirdos, like, declare that, like, I'm, like, doing them dirty by, like, representing the message wrong. And I'm like, to me, you're just some faggot. Like, you have nothing to do with me. Yeah. Like, we're not part of the,

same thing. But that's kind of a different issue. But if that's what you were asking, in fact, and I didn't misunderstand, yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, there's a big difference between, you know, people talking shit and people who don't really hold our views or, if not even like, down the line, point for point, like big picture long-term goals. Like, what do they want to see happen in the world? what do they want for America for the future and what is their opinion on the global geopolitical landscape as it rests right now and where do they want it to go? There's differences of opinion and then there's active subversion. And I think the Inquisition was partially to get rid of people who were actively subverting.

I mean, you said not on record, but earlier today you said they can't have like revolutionary priest with like something you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you even before you drive the new cupra plug-in hybrid range for mentor leon and terramar now with flexible pcp finance and trade in boosters of up to two thousand euro search cupra and discover our latest offers cupra design that moves finance provided by wave higher purchase agreement from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited. Subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply.

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some like middle-level elected official or something. You know, and especially the way the Roman church does things, and again, this isn't me trashing Catholics. priests have a lot of power because there's a huge there's a huge body of work um adjacent and like to the to scripture and catholicism you know and it's it's written in languages that very few men can read and understand and it's it basically it's a lifetime of study so if you're if you're some like regular person and particularly in those days when a lot of people you know weren't literate i mean now most people are like functionally illiterate but like i'm talking like in

in in in in literal terms you know like they like if a priest tells you something and he says no this is that this is this is what you know this is what equine has said or like this is you know this is what this encyclical means you know that that's tremendous power there man you know and um that uh you know and there is a sense of you know don't question me this isn't your domain you know I'm a priest and you're not, you don't know of what you speak. And yeah, you do need, you do need to give clerical types, you know, something of a white birth and not trying to regulate, you know, their scholarly activity or the way they prosely ties within certain parameters.

But yeah, there was, clerical people are uniquely situated to cause problems. You know, like, I'm not talking about somebody, like, that ridiculous, like, you know, like, like pretend pastor lady who was, like, trying to excoriate Trump. Like, nobody pays attention. People just, like, laugh at people like people like that. And like nobody, like, nobody actually believes in, like, bullshit, like, woke episcopalism. You know, there's like, there's like, four, like, blue-haired 90-year-old ladies who, like, go to churches like that. Like, nobody gives a fuck. But if you're, but if you're a Catholic priest, you know, and particularly, I mean, this emerged in, like, the, I mean, I'm older than probably most of the people listening to this, but, you know, during, um, when the Cold War in the final phase, when things got really hot in Latin America, you know, like in El Salvador, particularly, you had, like, Warsaw Pact, like, a lied priest who were like, we're basically dropping, like, Marxist-Leninist doctrine on people. It's like, oh, this is, you know, this is correct doctrine, you know, and particularly in a place like El Salvador or Nicaragua.

where people were enduring like truly material deprivation, you know, and, and we're being impacted by, by political violence in day-to-day terms. Like, like a man like that wields tremendous power. You know, so this isn't just something that, you know, happened in ancient history. And that's, that's why John Paul II was so essential. It's not just that he said he was like a poll and he, like, stood up to the he stood up to the communists the Stalinist in eastern Europe I mean he also you know he was like this beloved guy and um he he could uh he could basically enforce um doctrine like contra these subverers without looking like some kind of brute or some kind of or some kind of political cipher for you know like American or um the interest of America or like uh or uh you know

of the Bundes Republic, which in those days, it's, they had been more of time, you know, the day. I mean, not, not in, like, cultural terms, but in terms of how they conducted, um, you know, the Cold War, um, and things like that. So, yeah, that's, it's important, man. And that's why, um, that's why, that's why,

that's why it gets so angry. Um, and it takes a lot to get me angry, frankly. I'm like an incredibly chill person. When these when these fucking morons are on the internet, they get mad at me for like making fun of like Princess Dickie Spencer or like

Breadmold Yarven. They're like no, and amused to the right. I'm like, these motherfuckers have known to do with me. Like these guys aren't part of the right. And even if they were, okay, so what? They're assholes. You know, I mean, I don't, I'm not going to like, I'm not going to like not criticize assholes because of some imaginary big tent political party you think you belong to.

You know, it's got only to do with me. And like, I mean, I don't, I don't fuck with that stuff anyway, man. You know, it's like I, I don't know why it's not clear to, I guess because people don't read, I'm not, I'm not trying to sound like some know better or something, but I don't understand anybody can, like, read my shit and then, like, misunderstand that or get it twisted. It's like I'm not trying to build some political party, you're not, I'm not, I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to, like, capture, like, the Republican National Committee

or, like, get people to, like, vote for this, like, random congressman or something. It's, like, I don't care about that shit. That's fucking bullshit. Or, I mean, if that's, like, your thing, fine. I mean, I, that's great. I'm not going to, like, make fun of people if that's what they're into, but that's got nothing to do with me. But that's probably, but I was going to stick.

I'm glad you said that no enemies to the right thing, though, because there's a difference between punching right and calling out, uh, you know, people who are actively lying or subverting. Well, they also look. Yeah. They also think that like, they also think that like crazy Zionists who love Ukraine. Right. Or like random idiots who are like terrified or like hood rats or like right wing or something.

Like it's like what that is nothing to do with me, man. Like I don't. Yeah, exactly. Well, I wanted to say that if you know. When you read, let me. Let me. When you read. Yeah.

one of the best sources on the inquisition is de maistra. Mike at Imperium Press has put out a version of his letters. He had written to a Russian noble that's not named. But basically what you see is it's the Inquisition was it's gatekeeping. That's how it started out. It was, okay, are these Catholics? Did they have a genuine conversion? and then what it becomes is it becomes a court system. It becomes a judicial system where they bring people who are accused of crimes and the priest investigate it and then they make recommendations to the Cortez. And, you know, I don't think now you can make the argument that the Inquisition was pretty

much done by the time that they disbanded it. But I don't think it's a, you know, it's a coincidence that as soon as they disbanded it, Spain basically erupted into chaos and had three carlust wars, like one after another, over a 20-year period. It seemed to, it seemed it was something that actually worked as a keeping cohesion in order. You know, and probably Spain losing the empire was probably the worst downfall that could happen, but that was bound to happen. But, yeah, I think the Inquisition is,

very, very simple to understand, especially, I mean, the de Maistre thing is just a pamphlet. And you read those and you're like, okay, this is, he's explaining exactly what it was. And it was gatekeeping and judicial process, basically. No, the Iberian states and France, like, needed the Catholic Church. Like, it's an essential part of their, like, sociologically, it's necessary. Like, otherwise, their political culture has no context and it can't function. Yeah, that's under percent true. Sorry. I want to say. Maras was an atheist, but he's like,

he, speaking of gatekeeping, he'd exclude people who attacked the Catholic church from action France say, because he's like, we can't do that because that's totally self-defeating. And he was like literally an atheist. Like he didn't, he didn't personally give a fuck about Catholicism.

But he's like, you can't, you can't dismantle Catholicism in France and salvage anything, you know, because it has, it'll have no core. Right. Well, okay. So, Yeah, the people you find most often punching right are the interlopers and not the real people. You know, very often the people who you find punching right, you trace back where their influences are, where they're coming from. They're not coming out of right-wing institutions or they're coming out of institutions that have a long-story history of subverting the right-wing.

So I'd like to name some of them soon. But Pete, just to stick to what you were talking about, because that what you just, what you just, said that's the conversation that made me want to do this episode we talked about this a few months ago um when you say conversion and was it a real conversion are you saying that or just just the maistress say that some of these people uh had uh pretended to convert in order to insinuate themselves into so discord or to propagate their own ideas well according to his his letters a lot less than you think um it seemed like the majority of the Jews and the Muslims who had converted to Catholicism were genuine

conversions. And it seems like the Cortez really only punished, did any punishment, put any punishment upon them when they were openly lying and they wouldn't leave. Because they were given, they were given the option, convert or leave the country. You catch them in the corner of your eye, distinctive by design they move you even before you drive the new cupra plug-in hybrid range for mentor lay on and terramar now with flexible pcp finance and trade-in boosters of up to two thousand euro search cooper and discover our latest offers cupra design that moves finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement from vows wagon financial services arland limited subject to lending criteria. Terms and conditions apply.

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and their belief system to do that so that they can stay and that they continue to subvert the country. So, yeah, I mean, the one thing you get out of the Maestria is you realize the Inquisition, the Inquisitors came to the conclusion

that a lot of them were genuine conversions but there were a lot that weren't well it's also yeah and that's the thing like with like especially the case of like in madonos well what do you yeah i mean not like first yeah it's a it's a term of derision for a for a jewish conversal um but a lot of these guys to to piece point yeah like uh like tell me Judaism definitely says it's okay to like trick people who like aren't of your tribe and basically like murk them and there's nothing wrong with that. But if you're going to go through your life, like literally pretending to be Catholic, like keeping up appearances and fooling your Catholic

neighbors, doing everything a Catholic needs to do, like especially a couple of centuries ago or even like even a century ago. So it's like basically you're going to be like, you're actually like a believing Jew who hates Christ, but you're going to literally pretend to be Catholic, 21 or seven. I mean, that's not, yeah, there's guys who did that. But so basically, like, you're going to, I mean, it's not like a life that's really sustainable for a lot of people.

You know, I mean, it's, it's, um, so, I mean, there's that. It's somewhat self-regulatory, but it's also, you know, a lot of, this is maybe a bit outside the scope but the 1848 revolutions a lot of that came from within dissident elements in catholicism and a lot of these like kind of utopian socialists who were like proto bolsheviks um that was a huge thing you know and so um and obviously like the inquisition had been profoundly weakened and um like the internal regulatory mechanism that you know, extrinsic to the Inquisition, it kind of been defanged.

That's one of the reasons why, like, the carlist faction of the nationalist coalition in Spain in the 30s were, like, so aggressively, you know, trying to root out nonbelievers in their own ranks. But, like, a lot of that came from guys who were apostate Catholics, you know, some of whom were Madanos, but, like, a lot of whom were, like, Spanish. radicals, you know, so that it's a, it's a complicated thing. I mean, like I said, if you're, I mean, Catholicism is just like totally different, you know, like I said, like if you're, if you're somebody like me, you know, like not only is they're not like a true reform congregation, like we

don't even accept like sign odds and shit. That's why I get to joke when, um, this one, these jokers in Missouri, like they, they declared themselves to be like the reformed signot or something and declared that like Calvinist presby's basically need to like prove they're anti-Semitic so basically like pretty much like every congregation is like yeah that's what we think about that you know because it's like the fuck are you you know like it's you're nobody

you know but it um in the Roman church there is a hierarchy you know and it is global in scope um I don't like again I'm not like saying that's bad or something but that's just but that does change things. You know, and it, if you get people, you know, if you get, if the Pope is compromised in some way, you know, and you've got some kind of counsel at Cardinals or something that,

that's able to kind of guide the trajectory of a church policy that can be catastrophic, you know, and that's what was the threat of, that was emerging. especially in 1848. All right, well, I'll bring it up to the present day in a minute. I want to stick with this just for a couple more points here. Pete or Thomas, off the top of your head, about when do you think the Spanish Inquisition started and how long after the Reconquista was that, more or less?

Or do you even look at the beginning of the Inquisition starting in Spain? Because I know there was multiple. Most people will say 1492. to the de Maestra points to interviews that were being done earlier in like the 1420s. What was it? Paul Fahrenheit and I talked about the disputation of Tortosa. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa.

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like on the spot it was kind of kind of odd but so i think de maestro points to that but really it's 1492 it's um when you're coming i mean i guess some might say 1488 um to give it a couple give it a few years prior but um yeah then and then i think really it's around 1820. Some people say 1831 is when it ends, but it's really probably around 1812 when wars are kicking out all over, where there's war everywhere. And they just, it's abandoned at that point. And it's probably, that was probably just the time that it needed to go away. I mean, obviously that, if you really look at that, there's a changing of the spirit of the age at that point that's taking over in Europe.

I mean, would you agree with that, Thomas, a changing of the spirit of the age around that time? Oh, yeah, definitely. And it's also the, that post-Jacobin, post-Reyn of Terror epoch, and I mean, the Battle of the Nations and, you know, Napoleon's final push for European and this world domination yeah that that changed everything among other things and yeah the the 19th century um you know i i abide what has what i'm said about about the the long century and the 19th century in europe being uh in relative terms uh you know um a in power political terms uh you know a period of a a stasis.

1848 was kind of a punctuated exception, but that didn't turn into something like the J-Gun Revolution or the Bullswick Revolution, but after Waterloo, like, Europe, basically, like, settled into stasis, contra America, which was, like, tearing itself to pieces. But, yeah, that's correct. And, yeah, I,

the Roman Church had, like a day after die, like not in doctrinal terms, like in political terms. You know, they, they couldn't do things the way they did before. So, yeah, I agree. Yeah. Pete, that's more or less when I understand the beginning of the Inquisition as well. And I read about a Spanish priest named Alfonso de Espina, whose book The Fortress of Faith, which I didn't realize at first, was never translated out of Latin.

And it's known as the Forteitum Fide. But basically, and this speaks to a lot of what Thomas was saying about the Inquisition in the 18, or excuse me, in the Middle Ages in Europe, the communication, you know, took weeks or months for people to communicate with each other across Europe. So the Roman Catholic Church kind of had to rely on its bishops and its deacons throughout all of Europe to kind of all preach the correct doctrine. And this guy, Alfonso de Espina, went to Nuremberg right after the printing press was invented and told many stories about Spanish Jews who converted to Catholicism and had become priests who had been seen. A, I mean, he accuses them of all these rituals. I read about this in a book about Simon of Trent. So it's obviously about blood libel. But he also accused them of teaching the wrong.

doctrines and accused them of, you know, scheming or making concessions to Muslims against Christians. And, of course, you know, this is considered a bunch of propaganda and lies. Interestingly enough, this is also how the Transylvanian Saxons spread information about what Vlad the Impaler was doing to them. They also went to Nuremberg, and that's where they would print all these books and they would get spread around. And so that more or less tracks with the inquisition for both people who don't preach the correct doctrine, but also have false conversions or maybe have duplicitous alignment or duplicitous allegiances. And that's kind of how we came up with the name here. That's how we came up with the name here because we've been seeing rhetoric floating around,

especially after October 7th, it's been escalating. and a lot of the rhetoric that's around the supposed online right mirrors or mimics of rhetoric that we've been hearing for decades now from certain factions in American, you know, right-wing discourse where they're, like I said earlier, the punching right right typically is done I've seen by interlopers. And you have a lot of these figures or figureheads who are doing a lot of this that work behind the scenes or are paid or funded by somebody

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some of the very same names, right, that were part of all of that, are still, you know, showing up within the right, within the online right, and A, punching right, and B, pushing ideas that are just not aligned with what we think. So I don't know where you guys want to start, but this all started when Stormy showed us or showed me the board of the Manhattan Institute. And the first thing I noticed, A, was that many of these board members on the Manhattan Institute were also board members of the American Enterprise Institute. And the second thing I noticed, what stuck out like a sore thumb, was Bill Crystal's nameless on there, who was one of the most infamous neocons that exists. And of course, the American, excuse me, the Manhattan Institute is behind the huge push for DEI and anti-CRT, which seems very, very amenable to right-wing thought, right?

It seems like we're against that, which I think we all are. But it turns out the reason they are against DEI and CRT and are pushing all of this, and there's a ton of money behind this push, which we can get into in just a minute, is because, of course, DEI and CRT lends itself to anti-Israel and anti-Zionist rhetoric. So the Occupier Colonias, I mean, this is specifically on their website. They say these terms specifically Occupier and Colonialist, which were applied to white Americans, are now being applied to Zionists and Israelis. So they have to shut that down.

I mean, woke is dead. Like, woke is dead. Now it is. Well, I mean, nobody supports that bullshit.

So, like, that's part of it. Because these guys, like, like, the project for New American Century guys, they realize,

like, they realize they have to keep up certain appearances. It's like, and, like, part of their whole thing, part of their whole ongoing thing is that, oh,

you're not right wing. You don't support Israel. and Israel are like these white people and they're being besieged by these bad brown people who are socialists. Like it's it's very, it's very fake. It's very, very at odds with reality. But that's basically where that comes from. And it's also too, like these guys, they want to control the narrative and they want to present it like, oh, there's these people who don't like Israel because they're socialist or they're these woke liberals.

like that's not you know that's such that there are like these like NPC illiterates who like think they quote support Palestine these same kinds of people who simultaneously like think they love Ukraine like they're not in the game they're noodies

you know like if you're and I've got some authority to speak on this because like I fuck with a lot of Palestinian people and adjacent elements here and you know they they've got a pretty active community. University of Chicago is a pretty active

like Palestine liberationist tendency. Like the truly like left wing ideologues, like guys like Rashid Kalidi, they're basically they're basically like old school like paleo leftists, a lot of whom are like very, very Muslim.

Like the idea that they're the kinds of guys who are into like Kamala Harris and that bullshit is retarded. like they're they're two totally different things so take um take with a grain of salt when zionists claim that we've got a real big de i because you know it's it's a bunch of wokeies who hate israel it's just more of the same like israel is the only western country in the middle east because if you're some crazy jewish guy you're western you know like it's uh it's

it's it's that it's that same fucking horses shit exactly I'm not talking to splitting errors, but I'm not. No, I'm glad you've laid that out because what I wanted to add to that is that what you're saying now, right? You see that thrown around on the quote-unquote dissident right, right, by Anans, who are supposedly these hardcore, you know, racist, whatever, Anans dissidents. The stuff Thomas is talking about that you see, they didn't come up with this. They didn't just start saying this. I mean, some of them are historically illiterate and they're, they don't know what they're saying,

but they're not, they didn't invent it. They're picking it up. And, you know, I'm old enough to remember these exact same lines were printed by people like Bill Crystal, Jeffrey Goldberg, David Frum in the op-eds in the New York Times, in National Review on Fox News. And Sam fucking Harris, the atheist, new atheist, used to say exactly this shit in like 2000. This was how they, you know, justified the run up to. to the invasion of Iraq and the people that they were calling left wing. You'll be called a third world that's in a left winger right now. If you say,

I don't think Israel should be like completely decimating and massacring Palestinian women and children. You'll be called left wing. Just like David Frum called Pat Buchanan and just like Jeffrey Goldberg called Sam Francis left wing during the run up to Iraq. So this has a storied history And these people are doing the same thing And they're literally the same people Because all those people were coming from the American Enterprise Institute So I'd like

Yeah, I don't I don't understand why I'm supposed to like It's like okay Like Zionists and a sort of other Like human trash Call me left wing. Okay, I'm a left wing. I mean that that means as much to me

If somebody calling me a faggot You know what I mean? It's like, okay, that's great. Like I, I mean, I, this is a subject for another day, but I, I don't, you can't even really talk about right and left wing after the Cold War because it doesn't really exist. You know, there's, there's globalism and intrinsic to the globalist enterprises is a belief in, in the legitimacy of Zionism. And there's the resistance. and like the resistance is a pastiche of different cultures and and you know

different political cultures and different you know human cultures um you know that are very different from one another but like that that's all there is there's not this um that that's why so many people are like confused as fuck like there's not

they think that there's like this wide spectrum of ideas that's like competing for hegemony, like, in this, like, sovereign, like, West or something. Like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, decades out of date, you know, um, there's not, um, there's only, there's only, there's only globalism and the resistance. And there's only one way, like, modern states are configured, you know, I made that point again, too. That's why, like, the democracy floating

signifier doesn't make any sense. There's not, like, dozens of ways that, you know, um, states are configured, you know, and there's not, there's not some struggle underway, you know, between, you know, what used to be called the first world and some, like, alternative system that, like, where billions of people live under, you know, I mean, like, that doesn't make any sense. So it's like, I'm a left wing. Like, I, that, but it's also, too, like, we're not, we're not a political party. So, you mean, even if I was, like, okay, so what? You know, I, I don't, um, I don't, uh, like, like, jess.

actually Hinkle, and I think a lot of the, like the serious left, like the post-Marxist left has made something of a comeback, at least if you're talking about political theory types. Like, he makes the point again, again, too, you know, and he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, Harris voters and the kind of people who pump money into that campaign, he's like, he's like, why are they left wing? He's like, if anything, he's like, a lot of them are just like hyper-capitalist degenerates who who who um you know kind of decided like try and create some sort of ideology around their like weird old lifestyles but that's actually uh traditional Marxists to view that kind of stuff as some kind of like stopgap effort to like preserve the capitalist structure it's like

okay we're going to let you be as degenerate as you want we're going to like give you all these incentives we're going to create we're in carve out like certain entitlements you know um like free health care you know to basically prevent um you know the the advance of the historical process i mean obviously i don't accept that paradigm but that's but this idea that uh but the idea that you know these are like doctrinally principled left wingers or like people who were actually like knowledgeable about political theory you know like on you know on on the one of the local left or whatever. Like, he like, Hinkle's right about that. Like, these people are just

stupid assholes. You know, and like they're not, they don't know what the fuck they think. Well, there's also the point that you make, Thomas, about how, once you realize it's globalism and anti-globalism, saying that you're a third positionist is just,

that doesn't exist. What do you think? You all, the way I look at the people who say their third positionist is, is they don't, want to be associated with some of the people that are anti-globalist. So they're like, well, you know, I'm not going to be on the side. Even though they may be fighting my enemy, I'm not going to be a third worldist and, you know, and say the Palestinians and cheer on the Palestinians in their fight. So I'm going to be, I'm a third positionist because, you know, I can't be associated with certain

people. It's almost like this, like they're like some kind of weird, like, like, like, like, they think they're above at all. And they don't... The same guy who think they're bad as is who are like, I don't care what it happens in the Middle East. It's like, well, okay, I mean, that's... If you're a grown man, you don't get to, like, not take a position. Or you can, but, I mean, just admit you're an NPC and, like, you're not in the game.

You know, like, it doesn't... It's like this idea that... What's also, too, like, the guy's saying this kind of stuff. Like, they live in places like a man. America or the UK. It's like there is no Britain. Like there was no like, uh, you don't live in some, you don't live in some like European country that's, you know, got some like robust, independent, like political system. You know, it's like, it's like what happens to you is decided in Washington. And what happens in what, and what's decided in Washington impacts this entire planet. And, um,

you know, the, what, what happens in, on battle fronts like Ukraine or Gaza, has this positive impact on what policy is within the global apparatus. And anybody doesn't understand that is profoundly ignorant. Plus, it's not a question of caring about things. And like, anybody thinks that, too, doesn't understand politics. You know, it's a question of power activity and, whether um you know when's enemies are are succeeding or failing and uh you know what position you take on you know the the enterprises that your people's enemies um undertake uh as critical to their

objective you know like i'm i but i mean i don't i don't argue this point with people who say those kinds of things because they're stupid. I mean, I also, like, incidentally, like, I, um, you guys are talking about these punch to the right types. Like, I run across Randos and they say, like, that's why I hate like the quote red pill metaphor. Like, like globalism in the social engineering regime. It's not this like secret nobody knows about.

And you've got to be like aware to some like special noses to understand it. Like anybody thinks that way. a fucking retard. You know, it's like the same people are like, no, you shouldn't criticize Richard Spencer. See, like, first you read like William Crystal, then you can read Richard Spencer, then you find this guy's website,

and you get red pill. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? You know, like there's not, it's almost like the way police talk about drugs. Like, see, first you smoke marijuana, you know, then you start doing cocaine, and then you're like shooting fentanyl into your eyeballs and like you're good.

like that who the fuck thinks like because what they're doing is they're like plotting their own weirdo uh faux intellectual journey to whatever stupid ideas they have so they claim that like

everybody is somehow like brainwashed by legacy media and then like you start reading stupid stuff by Zionists but then you realize you're like afraid of black people so you start reading like some crazy Jewish guy who like, you know, is a race realist, but then you like start reading this, you know, it's like that's, I, I don't know how anybody can think that way, but this is also why,

you know, I, this is also why I'm always making the point that we're not trying to convert normies because they're idiots, you know, I mean, not that I'm so smart, but it's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of being able to, you know, perceive, political realities and understand the implications of these things. Most people aren't built for political thinking. Obviously, they're not hard enough or something. I'm sure that's a component of it, but people either get this or they don't. Like some people can understand theoretical physics.

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people will think that because they've been quote unquote red-pilled on the JQ or something all of a sudden now they're they're like part of the high culture of a

of a society of a group of a people well yeah I mean that that's obviously a s-nine too but it's also like these guys they I mean you can tell when you're talking to somebody like whether they understand

these things in like a meaningful capacity they don't like even most of these guys who are like yeah like I'm pilled on the JQ they don't even understand what that means like they have this idea that like Jews or some standing for bad guys or something or like oh Jews are left wing like they don't they don't actually

understand anything about it you know like and it's um it's not I mean most like uh probably i mean the only majority of people i mean i can't put a percentage on it but like most people have no business like trying to fuck with politics they just don't just like i've got no business like deciding i'm going to like talk about nuclear physics you know um i mean yeah like where the

rubber meets the road um i mean politics impacts people ontologically like whether you're like whether you're a guy who works at a fast food restaurant and his IQ of 80 or whether you're some like savant political theorist, you know, the like the friend enemy paradigm like impacts people in like day to day like real ways. And like instinctively, you know, people understand these like existential realities like on some like primitive level. I mean, obviously. But in terms like actually unpacking and identifying like what the aspects are of. of a of of political reality like theoretically and practically like like 90% of of people like can't understand that whatsoever and they've got no business like deigning to like try or think that they have a say on it because they have no fucking ability to that's the issue yeah well in terms of like punching right and you know calling people names i i don't necessarily give a shit about that although sometimes people people do get hurt and some of the stuff that happens is really fucking nefarious and the worst the worst

shit that you see like doxing and stuff i've i've never seen that happen on the right except for from one of these fucking mouthpieces who who works for somebody uh oh when when the t rs when when when um what the hell was the name of that uh dee one of our friends one of our good friends was part of this podcast that was like a Southern Identity podcast. Yeah, I bet I'm thinking to the same one you are. Yeah, they all got docks. How did they get docks?

They got docs from the inside. By their, by their quote unquote friends. Yeah. Was it, it's not the, was it the Rogerair one? No. No, this was, this goes back to right around Charlottesville.

Oh, okay. Right there's some kind of weird freak who like, yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, and he's, there's something really, really wrong with that guy. But, no, and that's a serious thing. But it's also, I mean, people, especially normal people with families who, who you have like a 9 to 5 job or like a professional career. I mean, obviously they've got to, they've got to guard their privacy. But I, people who, people who don't have families.

families and who strike a partisan posture, like, like, you've got to, like, you've got to just, like, grow up and, like, stand by your shit and, like, stand on business. And if you're, like, if you're, like, terrified of some, like, some, like, crazy Zionist or, there's some, like, pink-haired lady who works for, like, an NGO, like, going into internet and saying you're, like, a bad person who said mean things. It's like, well, you really got to, like, fucking check your shit. Like, you shouldn't care, frankly, you know? Um, but, uh, it's, you really, Yeah, I... It's more of this.

Our thing is for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. The, um, I lost my hand. I thought, I'm sorry. Oh, but no, I... No, go ahead. I was just going to say to your point,

that's what I was... That's exactly where I was drawn the metaphor with the Inquisition. You know? Why are you anonymous? If you don't have any, you know, anything to lose. Why are you anonymous? Is it to subvert? Are you...

And some of the people, you know, some of the people that most of the people I have in mind actually aren't anonymous like rod trear and there's a few others but uh some people some people are anonymous and you wonder why you know and it's interesting that you find out that they have these subversive agendas and you say is that why you're anonymous because you didn't want people to know that about you well the also the other the other problem too is like the is people have like them like generally people have like the memory of a goldfish like one of the things that's fancying to me like when it became like what I mean when I say like woke is dead is that like basically that like the

Zykeyes has like shifted right word in like normie terms. So now there's like a million idiots like this fucking homo like Sernovich or is I call him Thernovich. Like he literally is like this he was like this like P-Way like wigger idiot. And he like he literally just like post on this blog about how to like score with like trans people and like be a sex tourist. And then like when that hustle dried up and like, like peeways came with lolocows he's like i'm mr right wing i'm pro white you know and now now he like

slimes his way into like all these like normy like right wing events and shit and it's like i said i'm like dude this guy's a fucking faggot i've told people i'm like this guy's like he's like he's like he's like that idiot who used to like wear that big hat then talk about how to pick up girls like that was his hustle like now he's like i'm mr right wing like um and people like look at me like i'm an insane person it's like do your fucking big diligence man like most of these guys they're goofies like who have some kind of resume like that yeah 100 he's literally a scabies infected tranny like enthusiast you come read my blog about how right wing i am and let me tell you how trans penis tastes like pennies and made my mouth feel weird like nigger like who are you what

are you doing when it's also like why why are these guys like suddenly like an authority on stuff you know this is the thing that bother me is how rapidly these guys have rose with virtually saying the same thing as like Bill Crystal. Well, some of them are backed by institutions with money and I'm gonna, yeah, I don't think Cernovich is, I don't know. I thought he was self-made, but some other people we know for sure. Is self-made? Like, Astro, am I self-made? Yeah. Did my money come from divorcing my lawyer wife. Yeah, Sarnovich divorced his wife and like sued her

Oh, right. sued her for like millions of dollars. Yeah. He makes him like rent boy like stay at like house husband who was like making a I knew that about him. Like maybe like sexy blog like yeah, that was his deal. You know if you're going to do

that, I'm not going to do that. If you're going to do that, I'm not going to judge you, but don't be fucking brat, you know, don't make it out like you, you know, you fucking, you know, hit a home run. No, you didn't. Well, all these, one of the reasons, all of the reason, all these corn balls, like, I didn't think this was still a thing, but like there's this whole new generation at cornballs who were like, I'm an alpha male. But it's like, you've never had a job, but you're basically like a male prostitute who like hangs around in some faggy gym all day and like lies on some girl or some guy's couch.

Like that's alpha male stuff. But it's, but like all these guys, like they all decided they're like. right wing like when they realize that you know like I said that like nobody everybody views it as corny to like talk about how to pick up girls because like younger people don't like that kind of stuff like nor should they no it's fucking stupid but that's but yeah like half of the half like the online right they're like these fucking queer i actually know three prominent right wing authority figures that are professional professional house husbands and stay at house and dads Some of them you would know.

Yeah, like that's, like we're supposed to... You may have been on one of their shows or two of their shows or three of their shows. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's just a joke. And like that's, I mean, that's, yeah, like, these guys are, these guys are studio gangsters writ large. But, yeah. But they're going to lead kids, these are the type of people that tell kids to, like, hey, go do this or go do this protest activity. and you just going to get young dudes hung up while you're sitting there making sure your wife's dinner is made on time

that that's why we have this show man that's why we have the show so you don't fucking get thrown off track by these jokers like because people believe the shit people lap it up especially young impressionable guys uh they's one thing that does worry what are young men like want to do like when i was 22 i only really cared about getting laid and getting glory and sometimes like they're that's the age unfortunately it's the age when a man young man starts to realize that you know like when you're when you're growing up like you know you basically take what your parents tell you as like a gospel air grid operator of ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest we're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital and shaping these plans.

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the ones that are face faggots, you know, try and like Mr. I suck trans, Pene, Cernovich, like, he's a macho man guy now. He's going to tell you how to be a macho right wing guy. You should totally listen to this guy. And there's three or four guys that are just like this. And unfortunately, the guys when time when people are waking up and questioning things is also the time when they're also most vulnerable to this shit. No, that's true. Well, it's also, too, like I try to you know and again I I probably sound like some like elitist dickhead or something because

you know again like most people have no business trying to trying to understand politics at any deep theoretical level but it's also like I I swear to God like half of the so-called dissident right it's like something like a lifestyle brand to them

you know it's like you just it's like a way of like getting cloud on social media or like representing certain things in like internet space like these guys aren't like that's why that's why frankly like a lot of time like i'll like i'll draw video of stuff i'm doing if you know i'm just like walking around like doing kind of corny stuff because it's like this is the shit i do 247 365 i'm not like some guy in the internet like you know i'm not some guy on the internet who's like some like social media right winger or something like what are you know like that's and if you're not um if you're not actually engaged but that's what i got

laugh too and like some of these goofies like they try and um they try and check me it's like look man i literally know thousands of people i can i can get on a bus or a train and land in any state plus alaska any um i don't know nobody in hawai yet and i can find a place to stay and like click up with friends because we're literally building like an alternative culture on like real world social capital. It's like that's what the fuck I'm doing. It's like what are you doing? You're

some like weirdo on social media who like doesn't even know his neighbors like who's he's like trying to like push some lifestyle brand that like you call like right wing. I mean that because like I guess because like you tell like you tell like nigger jokes or something like I it's ridiculous.

Well these guys aren't too much of a problem now. They're pretty easy to point out, but as the Zite guys shifts in our direction, there is going to be room that these type of people are going to carve out because it's like with the guys selling boomers gold IRAs. There's going to be guys that are coming in to try and get money out of these kids. Oh, no, and that's the problem, too, is that as, like, on the one hand, don't get me wrong.

There's, I'm not going to be something like too cool for. cool fucking jig off and see like oh this is bad that like if anything becomes mainstream is bad um the over it in window shift is that's like a net like

win that's a positive um but it does mean that there's going to be like there's going to be all kinds of shitheads who uh you know decide that um they're going to like self-identify with these kinds of politics when it's it's just like fake fucking cloud chasing bullshit And so one should double down on on gigkeeping.

But like I said before, I went live, for me, it hasn't been a problem. You know, like I don't fuck with corny people or like hobos or like normies with fucked up ideas. And I'm like singly impressed with like all the people in my orbit, which has gotten pretty wide over these past four years and some months. man um it's not um it's not some kind of flex that's true um i don't mean to be abrupt but i'm gonna it's been about an hour um and i got an early morning tomorrow so i'm gonna raise up man um

unless there's something else you require me right this minute no this message is not brought to you by the um uh by the uh singer family foundation So I wanted to say real quick, there's a big difference between, you know, a guy who just kind of hears about what's going on and shows up and, like, thinks what's going on is cool, but like doesn't know the, doesn't know the ropes. He hasn't learned the ropes. He hasn't read the shit or he hasn't been, you know, doesn't know the lingo or any of that. It's a big difference between someone like that who talks shit because he doesn't know any better. and someone who targets a certain sphere for infiltration in order to try to like either dampen the message,

take the edge of the message, or divert it into some other, you know, goal that him and his people are working towards and not what is a truly, you know, right-wing thing. Now, for me, call me naive, I kind of came into this because I'm, I spent a long trajectory over my entire life coming into this sphere. I always kind of had the idea that certain things were right-wing and certain things weren't. And nobody had to tell me that. I just sort of, that's just how it was.

Like, actually, you know what? To that point, let me ask a question to you guys. Thomas was talking about the resistance and, you know, the enemy, whatever he said, the regime or whatever it was he said, the regime and the resistance where and he said there's like no right and left and that where do you to think of where do you to stand on the term nationalism uh because before i like consider myself right wing i was basically a libertarian you know with some caveats and i always considered like nationalism to be what right wingism is and i decided that i was on the right when i realized like, hey, all of my fucking morals and ethics align with what I understand nationalism to be.

So I guess I'm a right winger. So what do you guys think of that term in the context of what Thomas was saying about like there's no left or right anymore? Pete said there's no third position. I mean, do you like that term? Do you think it's a useful term? Would you use that term? Well, I think it's a useful term. I think it delivers a message, like currently.

It's more of a against the regime dissident message, but I agree with Thomas that the way the world is going is to, you know, separation and smaller groups, smaller communities. And it may just be one of those terms that we're using. that could be, could still be used and be useful in a way to identify yourself and, you know, hail yourself as you're not an enemy. But I mean, I don't think there's anything useful in it anymore when you consider that it seems like especially people, a lot of the people who think like we do, are moving to be around other people who are like them.

And that's a distinctly local thing, not a national thing. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great. So, so, you know, I, you know, Hans Herman Hoppa talked about in a speech he did in 1997 called What Must Be Done, like breaking into 10,000 Liechtensteins. and I honestly think you're going that that's inevitability without the libertarian doctrine. So without the ideology. So like I tell libertarians now, I say, oh, I definitely think that decentralization,

as far as politics goes, is happening. And I think that the world is going to eventually look like the world you want to look, but it's not going to be with a libertarian ideology in a libertarian box because that's just not workable that you can't gatekeep and be a libertarian. I mean, it's just it doesn't work. You can talk about covenant communities all you want. And you can be like, oh, well, we got 20 families together that, you know, believe, well, you're going to have kids eventually.

You don't know what the fuck those kids are going to believe. So are you going to, if your kid grows up not believing what you do, are you going to kick them out of the community? I mean, what's go? This just, it doesn't work. It's, the way I look at it is it's less about ideology and more about order. What people are going to. I just wanted to add, I'm sorry, not trying to interrupt, I just wanted to say what you're talking about. People don't talk about that, but that's, you have to talk about what you're saying.

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to have any sort of realistic, you know, outlook and make realistic decisions for to try to live a life that somehow resembles your ideals or somehow reflects your ideals. And, you know, Stormy used the word zeitgeist. I think the word, the zeitgeist is a very useful term, as played out as it is, because the answer to what you're saying, as far as I could tell, is if the zeitgeist kind of moves rightward or moves in a more nationalistic direction, we could like take a breath of fresh air. We don't have to be, you know, quite so stressed out that like the country is going completely off the rails like Weimar Republic level, you know, degeneration and insanity.

So that's why somebody like Trump matters, you know. Stormy, I don't know if you want to jump in with the, where you think about the. So the way I see, I think nationalism fits historically. So when I say like, you know, nationalism, up until 1930, really the end of 1940, this country was over 80% Anglo-Saxon descent from C to C. I mean, yeah, people will be like, oh, well, we took a bunch of immigrants in at this particular time, and then all, we took some more. And really, you know, there's been a very fluid American identity. And there's some people that I really like that will disagree with me on that.

And that's fine. That's their right. But as being somebody that's been here since 1620, it is an identity. it is a nation is an ethnic thing we can pretend it's not but really that's the cultural conditioning that we've been forced to imbi historically a nation has always been an ethnos so what pete is talking about and my ideas of a much grander less decentralized state are kind of one in the same and even though they sound contradictory they don't really pardon me so if i go back to let's say 1940 a person in you know bosman montana or twin falls iowa or wherever that person when he read his

newspaper. The newspaper was a local newspaper. When he cared about politics, he would vote for his senator and his congressman, but the elections that everyone around him was talking about were the local ones, mayor and governor, you know, county commissioners, things like that. Those people did not care about much anything outside of their local community, and nothing really affected. them much from the outside of the community, except for things that were important on a nation-state scale. America is one giant geographic gold mine, and we all know enough about power to know that if it is split up into little bits, it won't stay that way for very long, because politics is a game of all. And the same thing with ideology. Politics is... It's... It's...

It's an outward expression of inborn ideological principles. And some principles you are willing to kill other people for. Some people, some principles you're willing to risk being killed yourself for. Some principles you are willing to, you know, sacrifice large aspects of your life financial and otherwise for, right? So the different things you believe in, you have different, you know, things you're willing to give up or give to them. but like on a national scale historically America has functioned very much like a bunch of decentralized little communities in how people's day-to-day lives were but also at the same time we're able to do grandiose national scale political objectives like transcontinental

railroads and you know globe-dominating industry we were able to do two things at once we were to walk and chew gum. So I don't think they are necessarily, you know, in opposition to each other as long as they are like Pete is talking about bound by the same rules and the ideological presupposition, like, again, like politics being ideology personified, right? how you make sure that you're basically the same type of social engineering regime that's been kind of put upon us would have been in any other healthy nation a very same a very similar amount of effort being put in to instill the values of a nation into its young people right

national socialism in germany probably put as much effort as our Jewish social engineers put into us. It was just different things that they were putting into us. So personally, I believe you can both have decentralized communities that only really care much about what's going on locally without sacrificing a national polity when you need it. Because, you know, unless we convince everybody else to give up their nation states, we're going to have problems.

What are your thoughts on that? Yeah. I identify as a nationalist. Well, yeah, no, I mean, that was the idea of the articles of Confederation, right? You'd have a bunch of colonies that considered themselves their own nation. And you also had this confederation of states that trade needed to be written down. You had to figure out how you were going to trade with each other. Also, what if you get invaded?

I mean, if one gets invaded, you know, it's like, it's like Ann Coulter said about Canada. Canada doesn't even need to have a military. We're not going to allow anything to happen to Canada. And so if at that time, North Carolina got invaded, you'd have to worry about that if you were in South Carolina or if you were in Virginia. So you have to have some kind of confederation, sure. but I think we're going back to more and more where people are going to identify

with their local or even their state, maybe even more so locally. But there is no reason why, especially a country that, you know, and I think I agree with Thomas, it's going to take, if the United States ever falls apart, it's going to take probably 200 years,

150, 200 years. But in the meantime, we are going to become more local, communities are going to become much smaller. But there is, you know, one of the problems with a small community is you run the risk of getting overrun by a bigger one. So I think, yeah, I think you're going to have a confederation of states or confederation of municipalities, and it'll mostly be for trade and for defense and, you know, even identity.

You know, like where you can have. identity I'm confused about because technology allows us to have mass identity. So I don't, I basically, I don't know how one would go about instilling domestic idea or local identities into people that have the technological, you know, access to having national identity or even larger, right? So, you know what I mean? Like, it's, if I'm watching some I don't know what kids do. I don't have a fucking TV. But like I know that I'm not,

I don't understand how TikTok, you know, functions, whatever, but I know people are watching TikTok videos of people across the country or the planet and they begin to develop some types of affinities and stuff for them.

Like, like, Carrie Lakes run for governor like two years ago. Like, I was reading, you know, almost constantly, about a governor's race in Arizona. Like, I shouldn't give any fucks about a governor's race in Arizona, but now it is a national political issue.

Yeah, but you do have to... Yeah, and you do have to care about stuff like that, though. I mean, Arizona's a great example because it's a border state, you know? So their policies matter. But, you know, also having Trump in office, it looks like... Yeah. He got Mexico. He got Mexico to send 10,000 troops to the border, and he's sending troops to the border.

So, you know, in a way, and this is what I mean about nationalism. Like, he's overriding a lot of the local shit with this. And hopefully all of this sticks. I mean, I hope everything he's doing sticks. I can see that, I mean. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are viability. and shaping these plans.

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forward slash under-insurance, brought to you by Insurance Ireland. Think about like the Russian Tsars. I think that is the only landmass and kingdom that has been, that's even remotely similar to the United States as far as size and resources and productive abilities I only think America stays together under executive leadership of singular leadership

I think if we I think anything else than Pete and Thomas are correct it's going to break apart and then it's going to go over itself Those two things don't happen. Trump and Musk are doing right. This looks like long-term stuff, though. You know what I'm saying?

Like, obviously, dissolution of America is only a matter of time. But everything they're doing, and just at a matter of two weeks, it's like it all looks very long-term. These look like changes that are, I mean, dude, I hope, we need to stay on this trajectory for a while.

I hope this isn't like a Julian, and Julian the apostate reign here where, like, there's a little blip on the historical radar of someone bringing everything back to the way it should be and then it just uh but it's just one part of a long slow decline you know hopefully this is a a true reinvigoration and not like a patchwork attempt to put a band-aid over this uh well it does have a function that kind of operates in our favor um greg johnson brought this up once he's really good for like just points that you don't really think about often and he said American

Renaissance is yeah he's countercurrents countercurrents countercurrents yeah he said it politicians are are basically just you know worms and pleasers right they just want to be left alone while they can you know do whatever terrible shit they're doing and whenever the citizenry gets angry about whatever particular thing is, they try and bribe the citizenry to fuck off with whatever the thing that it is that they like. So now that politicians have gotten a sense of how much the American public likes mass deportation, they're going to start using it as a get out of jail for e-card. So basically, the more and more Musk and Trump re-gear the state in America's best interest, doing things in the Americans' interest is going to be the mechanism that politicians used to create

a little bit of breathing room for whatever bad shit they're doing because they're always going to continue to do bad shit. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. You want to be a fuck up. At least I hope that's right. I think so. But like, I mean, every time I call you a fuck up, if the way you get out of me calling you a

fuck up is deport some people, this is going to go. on a lot of a lot of times. So I don't know how this plays out, but I know it's going to be efficient. And I think it's going to look somewhat similar to the past. Because how the nation was kind of structured outside of the Constitution, but like the articles of a confederation were an organic document as in like it, it served a purpose. Isn't like the things organically structured themselves a certain way. and it was a pragmatic document to put on paper what was already organically happening.

And I think that's a lot of how nation states work. A lot of the old stuff, the plumbing, is usually there for a reason because the state organically structured itself that way. You know, it's kind of like a slime mold. It goes wherever, you know, opportunity presents itself. but I don't know how it is going to look in structure

all I care about politically is how it looks as a polity I don't care how the governance looks I care about how the people look I want them like fat healthy and white That was that brings something up that I thought I would bring up

it was an interesting part of the conversation that our buddy Jay Burden had in an episode he released today with Ron Dodson was you have not I'm not talking about like really subversive or even

activist blacks who are saying we're part we're as much heritage American because we've been here that long as long as most of the white people who who are here. So what do you do with them? So like if you're looking, you know, we have a lot of people who are like, this country can't function unless it's white and Christian and European again,

have to kick out everyone who's not white Christian and European. When I hear that, I hear a libertarian or a narco-capist going, we just got to end the state, bro. Everything will be great as only in the same, like a literal impossibility. where you're going to get rid of it. Yeah. So it's like, well, what do you do? How do you handle this? Is it, you know, Thomas has always said, you know, people are just going to split up.

People are going to, black people are going to go off and be by themselves. White people are going to go off and be by themselves. And that's what things are going to get smaller. So what do you do? What is the attitude? What is these people who didn't ask? to be here who, you know, who got brought here. They, you know, sure, they could leave on their own, but, I mean, a lot of them are, a lot of them are 30 to 40 percent white. And if they go to

Africa, they've been here, their families have been here forever. They're, they can't, where are they going to go in Africa, where they can get along. What, what, what are they, what are they in the, in the, in the, in the context of this of this going forward. I agree with, I agree with both of both of you. I don't, I think like the all white, C to shining C,

ethno state is impossible. Only because there are certain people that are already here, like, particularly blacks. I mean, majority of the immigration that we have, even intergeneration, right two or three generations if we go back to 1950 right so something like 92% of the country was white right to really outside of the blacks everybody else is new and they were only the timing of

them arriving seems to coincide with America becoming globally dominant and the epicenter of you know, global prosperity and ease of transportation. All right. So even if you're here from like the 60s and you're like second generation, whatever, like, you're new. And if America becomes a wasteland, you're going to, like, look at all the Mexicans that are literally protesting and burning U.S. flags. Like, yeah, some of them, you know, we're born here, maybe, sure, okay.

But their affinity is along a racial one. Exactly. But the governance structure in which. which they exist is an Anglo one. So, like, those two things aren't going to coexist. And personally, I think a lot of the fantasies that people have about how this shakes out are just that fantasies. It's a lot.

The things that are actually going to work are a lot more boring. All right. Like, simply just, I mean, you could probably get rid of 30% of immigration just by banning remittances. Like, yeah, cool. You can't send money out of here. Literally 30 or 40% of these people would be gone and that would be like, you know, what?

I don't know, 25 million people. I don't think people like realize the scale of the amount of people that have come in. So if we went from 90%... One of the stats that I found out and I put out there recently is that 4% of India's GDP are remittances from the United States.

That's the only... alone. A 4%. 4. No, 4. 4. 4. That's still insane. Yeah, it's insane because it's only the United States. And how many are there in South Africa? How many are there in Australia? I mean, it's fucking nuts. And Trump talks about this. If you've angled up just the anglosphere, it would probably

be at least 15% of GDP. 100%. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Trump talked about this in the first term. Does he, has he talked about this recently? Because this is a huge issue that needs to come up. I remember he talked about a lot before, but I don't see that much talk about it now. But it doesn't mean it's not coming. People are trying to meme. People are trying to meme into this remittance thing where you have to start heavily taxing remittances. You don't even have to say they you can't send it home.

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at least on some level it will. I mean, I would love to say you can't do remittances, you can't do any remittances, but they're going to find ways around it. I mean, technology will find a way. I mean, I would be perfectly happy if we went back to 1950. I don't think you're ever going to get rid of black Americans.

I don't, but also I don't think you should. Like, I'm not a crazy person that just hates people. for no reason. I hate a few people and I hate them for very good reason, right? But it's only a few. And the majority of people, I don't know, maybe it is the inner Anglo that I, you know, view everything as like a garden to be tended and, you know, making sure everyone is okay or whatever. I don't know. It's a complex. But these people like, okay, let's say all the memes are correct. Let's say they're all a bunch of like 60, 70 IQ people. That's about a 12 year old or 13 year old. I'm not sending a bunch of 12 year old children to Africa to fend for themselves. I'm sorry.

If you're that person, you can go fuck yourself. I have to sleep with myself at night and I'm not going to be able to do that shipping off a bunch of people who can't fend for themselves and have been living a life of artificial subsistence for a very long time. I'm not going to kick my 12-year-old child out into the street. I'm like, oh, figure it out, fuckface. You know, if you really are so much better than these people, then you need to fucking act like it. And acting like a child and saying, like,

oh, we're going to kick them all out with catapults, whatever. Like, if you really are the master race, then you sure as fuck aren't talking like it, thinking like it. that's a sign of austeriousness the German the German Chancellor understood that too he saw Africa as just

a continent that needed to be coddled needed to he didn't want don't come to Europe but you know I think what he understood is what like and I'm not

trying to compare the German Chancellor to Eric Prince but I think Eric Prince understands that if you if you don't do something about that continent where you at least teach them how to be self-sustaining they're all going to go to europe or come here they're all going to leave they're going to figure out a way around that fucking desert or through that desert and they are going to fucking end up here and they're going to end up in europe so you have to figure out something to do and you know immediately the you know the lower IQ the lower culture people

who would hear this message will be like, well, not my problem. Well, it's going to fucking be your problem. I promise you it's going to be your problem. So you have to figure out a way to do it. And I think that's what Mr. Prince has figured out is like, we have to do something about Africa. Because if China goes in there,

which they're already there, they're going to fucking, they'll figure out a way to unleash them upon us and unleash them upon Europe. So they're probably given the book. They already, I mean, they already are. Yeah. So we have to, we have to figure out something to do some, some way to make sure they stay there and that they want to stay there.

Yeah. I don't think, I don't think Southerners hate blacks. I don't. I've spent enough time around them. I can tell you, I can tell you for a fucking fact. They don't. Most don't. And it's not that they've been, it's not that, oh, they, oh, the schools just taught them.

And that's who the Scotch Irish just are. They're open people. They're willing to open up their houses to people. And that's just who they are. And you can say, oh, well, that's not who I am. I mean, you've conditioned something happened in your condition to not want to. I mean, technically, I don't really want to live around them. I don't want them to be my neighbors, even the nicest ones I know, because they'll have grandkids who come and visit from the city.

And, you know, they, then that becomes a problem where they come to live there or anything like that. But I don't, how the fuck do you get rid of them? I mean, you can try to pay them to leave. Yeah, but where are they going to? And they don't have anywhere to go. They don't want to go. It's like, it's like, as I think about it. Where the fuck do I go?

You know, it's like if the friggin, if, if that friggin group of people continues to destroy this country and destroy this country, oh, where do I go to escape from it? I don't have anywhere else to fucking go. They've destroyed pretty much any place I'd want to go, they've already destroyed. Yep. So they have to be, they have to be beaten. Yep. They have to be put to heel. What do the, what do the black people do normally, like in the South?

the most respectful black people you ever meet are not anywhere else except for the south. The second they see you as a white guy, they immediately go back. Like the blood memory kicks in, and they are super helpful and super polite. Really quickly. Extremely polite.

Extremely polite in the south. You go to the city. There's something that happens when they fucking get in the city. And when giving the chance, they always go back down south. And I'm not even talking about New York or Detroit or Los Angeles. I'm talking about the city that's 30 minutes away from me. Their attitude changes when they get into it.

You know, a city of 30,000 people. It's completely different. When they're in the country, different people. Yep. And I think we effectively governed. Okay. so like do you do we see them all being kicked out no do i want them kicked out no right i want them to have effective governance i want them to be able to be the best person that they can be as god made them right

and the only way that that's going to happen is god gave my people the ability to make functional systems right well we're going to give them a functional system just like we did from the time of the Civil War onwards to 1950. It was Anglo-governance, metered out by local, I guess you can call them officials, but really all of the law enforcement in a lot of these black communities were all black. Like, if you give them the tool set, they're actually pretty effective at policing and beating the shit out of each other. Personally, I see the way black cops arrest black people And it's way, way harder than white people, rest black people. I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel.

We already had it figured out. It worked great for 100 years. Everybody else, I don't think they're going to culturally fit. And I also think they're going to export themselves. I don't think this ends in some violent Turner Diaries fantasy. Black people want to live amongst themselves. They don't like the cold. and they work well in super small communities,

and it's a good thing because they're not capable of building bigger ones. Like, they are fit to purpose, right? Like, we live best in the societies that our culture has created. Same with them. They like things, where do they function the best? Where things are small? Where they know everybody. Because a lot of their enforcement culturally is metered out in extended families.

right like you know discipline you know i mean another thing is like i don't know i i don't know i i don't know the indians and southeast asians they're here for exploitative reasons and the second those reasons those opportunities are removed from them they both have the means and enough intellect to get them back to where the opportunity is for them. So again, you could handle all that by legislation. And what I mean by legislation, I mean executive fiat, but it can be handled politically. They're not like, you know, on the ground solution.

So if it's just us and black people and black people live in the South and they live in their own communities like they always have and police those own communities, you didn't like reshape the world or bring in like hyperborean utopia. you just brought the 50s back. Or the 40s or the 30s or the 20s or the teens or the 1900s or the 1890s or the 1880s or the 1870. Like this isn't hard. We've figured all this shit out before.

And you've got to ask is what Musk is doing right now with Doge to USAID and other things? Are they going to eventually move on? have to talk about all the fucking new shit, right? Like, are they going to move? Are they going to move to welfare and Medicaid? The amount of fraud going on with that is just fucking unspeakable. It's just unspeakable. If you actually gave a shit about black people, when were they the healthiest?

Like, let's say you actually did give a shit and you're not some like just edge lord on the internet. Well, right, which is, again, a non-starter. But here, Stormy, let's just say it explicitly. Like if we're not kicking them out and they're not going anywhere on their own, we have no choice but to give a shit. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee, a visit filled with festivity. Experience a story of Ireland's most iconic beer in a stunning Christmas setting at the Guinness Storehouse.

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Possibly, possibly. But in 1930, the divorce rate was higher in white families. Oh, yes. Black families. Yeah, yeah. Up, no, even later than 1930. Yep. It went into the 50s and 60s. Yep.

Up until we started giving them free shit. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So if you actually gave a shit about them, you're asking me, like, what do you do about? Like food stamps and all the assistance programs that they're on and all that stuff at the same time as we're cutting drastically spending. Well, if you gave a shit about black people, the time when black people were the most successful, the most prosperous, and the happiest. Wasn't when they were slinging crack and wick cards.

Turns out it wasn't. And segregation is protectionism. Segregation is no different than the tariff regime that Donald Trump is putting up. When were black businesses the largest? When were black businesses the most successful? black people had their own insurance companies right their own banks and investment banks those all got annihilated instantaneously when we desegregated because even if you're a black guy and you love your community or whatever where are you putting your money are you putting it in white guy bank

or black guy bank yeah exactly so segregation and protectionist economic policies nationally are the same. Tariffs are good for the domestic economy, just like segregation was good for the black economy, and it is impossible to try and prove otherwise. The destruction of black businesses happened the day desegregation started. Why would you make them, why would I want my domestic steel manufacturer

to compete with China full of bugmen slaves that were 24-7, seven days a week? I don't. I don't give a shit. Like, I don't give a shit about Bugman steel company. Don't care. It could be cheaper. It can be, like, I don't give a shit.

Because politically, if I'm a political leader, I'm not an economic leader. My job is not, like, is the, is GDP, and I'm stealing Scott Besson's quote, right? Like, is GDP the metric? trick for human flourishing. No, it's not. Right. So how do I maximize human flourishing? Well, turns out protectionist policies help a lot. So what we are doing as a nation, we should allow them to do or force them to do. Because again, like they are often like children, especially when they get together like in mass like a mass psychology is always psychology of the lowest common denominator so certain things you're going to have to force on them just like certain things you're

going to have to force on white people right so yeah I think segregation again we figured all this shit out like it's really kind of crazy well it's a long process though I mean I I think for sure that you have to fix immigration first because that's a huge factor immigration is a huge factor those jobs are going somewhere I hate I even hate the fucking word immigration these people aren't immigrating

they're not immigrating they're not immigrants yeah my family my family immigrated and became Americans I mean they came here to be Americans they didn't come here to make money they came here to be American That's it. Yes.

When my great grandfather came here, he went right to the coal mines. And he went and found, he went and found Polacks just like himself and found out where they lived and went right. And said, what do you do? I said, well, we mine coal. Okay. So now you're a part of this community and you're American. And soon after, you know, he renounced his citizenship, renounced all loyalties to where he came from. and you know, like I've been saying recently,

we have a whole class of fucking people in this country who are dual citizens or even if they don't have citizenship to another country, a certain country, our greatest ally, their loyalty is there. Their heart is there. They will always, they will always identify more there than they do here. Not all of them, of course, because not all. It's never all.

But yeah, I mean, we, what is immigration now is all economic immigration exactly it has nothing it shouldn't even be called immigration it is economic exploitation and nothing else I think the tariff regime will do a lot of this the immigration restriction will do a lot culturally nobody goes where they're not wanted

and I think that's why the state department spent so much money and all the propaganda, I think it was 50% geared to us and the other 50% geared to convince the world that everyone in America will love you if you come. Because even if you could tell me like, oh, there's humongous opportunity, like just mega opportunity in Russia or something like that. But I also know that every single Russian hates me and doesn't want me there. I'm not going to go there because I won't feel good or safe or whatever nobody wants to be a place where everyone hates you

there's only a certain group of people that thrive on that everyone else is normal roughly at least in that respect Indians and Jews are the only people that are completely okay with going somewhere that they're hated and only one of those two groups thrives on it I don't think Indians have any friends

It's not even, they don't even thrive on in a history identity. 100%. So I don't know how to answer that question. I think the blacks will figure themselves the fuck out if you remove all government assistance, which also kind of looks pretty good if you look at the government's kind of financial situation right now. Yeah. I think it's probably, it's probably only a matter of time, but I don't think it's top priority. I think crime is top priority.

but in terms of like sorting out the black question, I do think, I mean, as far as priorities go, I think I'm seeing good things out of the Trump administration. Illegal immigrants. I can't believe, you know,

there's fucking arguments that happen about this shit, which I just bloggers, people just argue about anything. They don't care what they're talking about. They don't care what they're arguing about. That's why I'm so happy to see what I'm seeing out of Trump and Musk. Barely any of this shit is like bothering them or effective. them. They're doing it. They clearly had a plan and they're clearly implementing that plan.

And I'm hoping you to agree with me that yes, the border, illegal immigration and drugs coming in are the number one priority. That's the first thing they're going after. The next priority is widespread waste, fraud, and abuse of the taxpayer money. And they're going after that first. And it's not just waste, fraud, and abuse. I'm very happy. It's not just doorshain, it's money laundering. Yeah, everyone should go check out an account called, I think it's her name is Data Republican or something like that. Yeah, dude. Yes. Yeah, she's actually. Well, that gets back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, dude.

Bill Crystal, yes. Sorry. Sorry, you set me off with that. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. She maps out the entire funding network. So a majority of all of this money, like we're talking like probably, probably. in total a trillion dollars a year. Some insane amount is going to all these NGOs, or sorry, going to like USAID,

health and human services, FEMA, all these things. And not only are they, you know, funneling immigrants in, but it's also, it seems to be that we've stumbled upon the patronage network. Yes. That, um, I mean, I use the neat little tool that she built, the search and map,

the interconnectedness of all these foundations. and it seems to be a giant global money laundering system. And it seems like certain organizations like FJC and AJC and lots of other acronyms that have the letter J in them are at the center of all these. I got to follow this person right now. I know who you're talking about, though. I mean, she doesn't, she hasn't put that together yet,

but her tool is really useful. You just type in the name of the charity. or the foundation or the endowment or the EIN, and then you click map, and it tells you every other foundation that they're associated with. And it's not just like associated. These foundations are giving grants to each other. Why is the charitable foundation that's supposed to be giving money to charity to go be spent on charity?

Why are they giving grants to another charity? And why is that charity giving grants back to this other one that gave them money? That's fucking money laundering is what that is. Mm-hmm. Because you look at the grants that these foundations pay out, and they're all zero. Like zero, zero, zero there across the fucking board. But they're giving grants to each other like a motherfucker. And look, man, I'm not pulling.

Guys like Bill Crystal seem to be involved. Yeah, I'm not pulling this out of my ass. Me and Stormy were looking at this shit. I mentioned Manhattan Institute. The president of the Manhattan Institute. You want to know how much this fucking guy makes? The last one, I don't know about the current one. The last one was making like $600,000 a year.

All right. These are like- He's probably on two or three other of these foundations getting also. Oh, yeah. All of them are. Exactly. Exactly. Bill Crystal's on like eight.

Yeah. And he's American Enterprise Institute and the Manhattan Institute. I mean, dude, this guy, this one fucking guy that everybody knows and everyone hates, everyone fucking hates him, is behind political. pundits that you see online who are supposedly right wing punching right started this all this all

started when I noticed a certain guy telling my guys to go work at a panda fucking express fuck I was going to bring up James Lindsay that that's let's talk about that instead I was going to bring up James Lindsay

that upset me a lot I'm not going to name him but if you tell my guys that you want them to go work at a Panda Express and they should be okay with competing with all of fucking Vivek Ramoswami's, not immigrants, economic exploitors, not immigrants, they're not fucking immigrants. Pete's family was immigrants. Vivek Ramoswami is not an immigrant. His parents are not immigrants.

You know they're not immigrants because they still haven't gotten their fucking citizenship yet. That's odd. I think one of them has their citizenship, the other one doesn't. So why? Not for much longer. Yeah, please. right like for real

well a huge thing in that community and I think this applies to Vivek specifically somebody was tweeting about this I think it was him they retire back to their home countries and live like fucking kings

they live like kings I know somebody who went to India and I saw pictures of these sprawling estates at the foothills of the Himalaya and I was like this is gorgeous These are fucking amazing.

She's like, yeah, you know, all those houses cost like $75,000. They're mansions with multiple structures on them and huge gardens. And you can see the Himalayas in the background. She's like, yeah, that's like $75,000 American dollars. And what's what these people do is they rack up either pensions, which is obviously federally or state funded and retirements. And then they move, they retire back there at 65 and they live like absolutely like literally like kings. Like they live like on estates with like houses for their servants and shit.

Mm-hmm. 100%. And you only need one of them to bring in five others. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, can I just throw something out here real quick, Stormy? I know you're saying a thing. I just want to throw something out here. I live in a predominantly white upper middle class suburb in New York, upstate New York, right? It's probably 80, 90% white. And anybody who is in my neighborhood that isn't white is Indian, right? And it looks like they live like we do. They drive nice cars. They dress like we do. Their houses and lawns look the same.

But something I've noticed, and I went online to check this and other people say this, is that if you go into their houses inside, they live like they're in India. Everyone in their entire extended family is crammed into the house. and there's kids. They all sleep on mats on the floor. It sounds like quaint, doesn't it? But if you extrapolate that out to every Indian that you see that looks like they're assimilated, go into their house.

They're not assimilated. They're just living like they lived in India inside these, you know, McMansions that they live in. And buying their time. And the one guy that's got a good job on his H-1B program, all of those other people that live in the house. And this is statistically like, I mean, even fucking H-1B. Even, yeah, but even the fucking federal census, whatever, Bureau figured out that, like, for every H-1B person they bring in, they bring on average five individuals with them, right? So extended family.

And four out of the five, most cases, five out of the five, but, you know, let's just say four out of the five. are all on government assistance that they managed to rack up about $70,000 a year in government assistance right so they're on they have classes in India to teach you how to sign up for all of the government shit and then there's other classes that teach you how to sell your government like WIC cards and like food assistance and stuff like that and then they just send the money back to India yeah and I I should mention two of those classes he's talking about. They're like public, private.

So it's not like just, I mean, in some cases, it's a private, big private company. But in other cases, it's like funded by the government because they know that it's their interest. Yeah, exactly, because the money comes back to India. Yes. Now that I know it makes up fucking 5% of their goddamn GDP. Man, China's not stealing 5% of my GDP. Why don't, I'm totally cool. Yeah, they're fucking, it's not other ways.

So the guy, Mr. Mr. General Tows chicken. Yeah, I want to get back to that. I want to talk. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Luckily, these people always end up exposing themselves. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's the one thing we have. Yeah, go ahead.

If you're going to have an illegal immigrant wife and have a bunch of anchor babies, maybe you are not qualified to tell people how to think about immigration, illegal immigration or otherwise. Maybe you might be biased. Maybe you might not be giving us good advice. Maybe you're only giving people advice that's good for you. Maybe you're a scumbag. Maybe you get your paycheck from Bill Crystal and you pretend to be right wing. Maybe the founder of your, maybe the president of your organization, maybe that guy, the president of the place that you work, maybe he just came from this other place, right, called the New America Foundation.

Right? Maybe he's an honored fellow at the New America Foundation. What's the New American Foundation? Stormy? Well, hold on, I'll tell you. The New American Foundation is a far left, and this is Influence Watch. A fucking, like, this is them telling you.

And they're left. So that's a lot. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So they are far left think tank, United States, focused on policy issues. Technology, gender, gender education, and gender and diversity in the economy.

The think tank scholars are affiliated commentators include former and current journalists and members of the Obama administration. One of the largest funders of the New America Foundation is the Open Society's Foundation and Eric Schmidt, who's probably about the most evil motherfucker alive. Yeah, well, who's the Open Society? Yeah, surprisingly, surprisingly, yeah, surprisingly Eric Schmidt is more evil,

the more you look at him. But anyways, really? Yeah, he is. He is. You have a whole bunch of the previous president of this organization was Hillary Clinton's deputy at Secretary of State. So how come the president of this right-wing institute that you work at, is a soros faggot.

And how are you telling me that my friends need to go work and serve chicken and be okay with H-1B visas literally like taking up all their jobs and taking up all their spots at universities because America's top universities are over 60% filled up. Some universities, 70 to 80% filled up by foreign students because they make the foreign students pay full fare. All right. And the foreign students have this little racket where they know to have a baby while they're in college here.

Yeah. Well, look, let's just be explicit here. Who runs the Manhattan Institute? Yeah, we're talking about the Manhattan Institute. The guy he's saying that was from the New America Foundation. Well, let's, before we get to him, let me just say to your point that the guy that worked for the New America Foundation. who, by the way, just for the record,

he also worked for the fucking national review is Reihon Salon. He's the president. His predecessor was making $600,000 a year from this fucking tax deductible charity organization or whatever it is. So who no fuck knows how much he's making, right? So this is Chris Rufo's boss.

Chris Rufo is the one who tells you to go work at Panda Express and lies about how much money you can make there. Now we'll talk about Roger Hurtag, Stormy, you brought up another, I don't think you were talking about Roger Hurtag, but you brought up the Tickfah Fund once on this show. This guy, Roger Hurtag, who's on the board, one of the main board of trustees for the Manhattan Institute,

is co-currently working for the Tickfah Fund. So I don't know if you were going to talk about Tickfah. I don't remember why you brought it up, but you've talked about it on this show before. Yeah, isn't that, the Tikva fund isn't that the one that is, its purpose is to make, basically to reverse DEI. Yeah.

Because it makes Jews not, they're basically lobbying to make Jews a protected group like, like blacks or trannies or whatever. So they can, and there was a rabbi like literally bragging about this on Twitter. which probably not the best place to do that, about how this now makes every Jew eligible for tens of billions of dollars in U.S. grants and programs. So maybe you should not be on the board of the Manhattan Institute, or maybe if you're a pretend, it's a nonprofit, quote, unquote, charitable foundation, quote, unquote,

whose mission is to promote Jewish ideas. Yeah, so his role at the American. American Enterprise Institute, which is another Paul Singer funded. So American Enterprise Institute is Neocon. That's Neocon fucking headquarters. All of these people are like national review types. But he is the head of their of Washington Institute's Near East Policy. That basically is real policy.

And all of these fucking guys, all of them on their resume has near East policy, near East policy. Near East policy. Well, so who is the largest funder of the American Enterprise Institute besides George Soros and his fucking friends? Well, that's Paul Singer. Who is Paul Singer? Well, Wikipedia will tell you he's a hedge fund guy. He's not really a hedge fund guy. The same way that George Soros isn't a hedge fund guy, right?

The same way that Lex Wexner isn't a Victoria's secret guy. The same way that Steve Wynn is not a casino guy. Or Miriam Aydelson, Miriam Aadleson isn't a fucking casino lady. whatever. That's not what they are. They are human-shaped bank accounts. They look like people, but what they actually are is people-shaped bank accounts that a foreign nation fills up with money and then they tell their human bank account how to spend it. So they are quite literally an extension of a foreign nation. So that means if you work for a fleshy bank account for Israel, you're not actually pushing right-wing ideas at all you're just doing what like whether you know it or not

that's not my job it's your job to know who you work for he's doing paul singer does very much proudly know it and i can't prove it but i think he had a hand in the the assatler assassination attempt. Oh boy. But yeah, don't get me started. He was also the guy that put that lovely Republican National Convention together, the one that was fill of women, only fans women, and Indian women, and was started with an Indian prayer. That would make no fucking sense if Donald Trump was the nominee, which he was de facto at that point, but Nikki Haley, who is an Indian woman, and also a very close confidant employee of the fleshy bank account Paul Singer. She spent her entire campaign as brief and humiliating as it was, both for her and the nation.

She spent her entire campaign saying that if Donald Trump was the nominee, she would not be attending the Republican National Convention, which is strange because three days before she suddenly changes her mind and now very much is coming to the Republican National Convention. Well, that's odd. And it's odd that the whole R&C convention is trying to tell me how great Indian women are. It's almost like Donald Trump wasn't supposed to be there. And really, who had the most to lose from Donald Trump being elected?

Yeah, like Kamala Harris, she was drunk when it started. She'll be drunk after. She doesn't give a shit. Joe Biden doesn't know what planet he's on and Barack Obama is fucking some kids somewhere. Right. Who actually cares and who actually has a stake in American politics? right what that little handy dandy foundation tracker will tell you is that it seems that the people that have the largest stake in American politics are these fleshy bank account type people

these you know deposit boxes for a foreign state in near east and that's why all of their money goes to paying for guys that do near east policy it's amazing so the guy who is now basically getting his teeth kicked in politically. I mean, if you're a fugitive from justice in your own country and the only people, you know, kicking, the only thing keeping you out of a jail cell is your political office, I guess any attempt successful or not to push you out of that office, you would view as like a life or death thing, huh?

Because for you it is, right? You're like 70. If you go to jail, you're going to spend the rest of your life there. And your son's a faggot. So, you know, not really a lot of legacy there, you know, except for your son being a pool boy or some shit. So it would be really important to you to stay in office and continue this war. And a guy that's coming into office that already hates your guts

in the most powerful nation in the fucking planet and would like you to stop this war this is why all the people like oh well trump just authorized a billion dollars in aid military aid to israel first off that's authorized and i think it's very funny that it was authorized the day before which is tomorrow right the day before him and benjamin nettingia who meet yeah yeah and that's leverage is what that is oh well he authorized two thousand pound bombs yeah he also force a politically suicidal ceasefire on Israel, and every single person in Israel is angry about it.

All you got to do is just look on Twitter. They'll tell you very openly how angry about it they are. So how did he force a deal, a ceasefire deal, on people that didn't want a ceasefire? Well, obviously, there's leverage. So a political ceasefire will end Benjamin Netanyahu's career, politically. It's already starting. So I find the authorization kind of interesting. It's almost like you plan on doing carrot and stick. Because what good is military aid for you if I won't let you shoot it? It'll make your citizens feel a little safer.

But that's about it. Please, I'm going to take it from there. I've spoken too long. Well, it's like look what he did with Mexico. in Canada. The black pillars don't want you to think he's capable of doing that with Israel, but there's no reason to think otherwise.

You should talk a little bit about how that whole peace deal happened or that ceasefire deal happened in the 16 hours that happened in. Yeah, he sent what the hell is that guy's name? I'm forgetting it now. Witskopf or something? Wittzky.

Wittkoff, yeah. Whitkoff. Yeah, he's a gangster. He's a Jewish gangster from New York. You know, real estate magnate. If you're a real estate magnate in New York, you're a gangster. And apparently he was just sent there to tell him, get it done. Allegedly, I don't know that this is true or not.

I've heard it. This is lore now that he went on Shabba. He went on the Sabbath. And they're like, well, you know, it's a Sabbath. He's like, no, no, no, you're meeting with me right now. And he told him, he said, ceasefire. He said you're going to get the hostages back. And, you know, one thing we know is if the hostages are all released, Netanyahu's in deep shit,

which is why they're pivoting over to invading the West Bank now and taking parts of the West Bank. Because he needs some kind of distraction to keep people to, so people don't remember how much they hate him and want him to be in jail for all the corruption that he's done. But yeah, he just, Woodcock just basically went there and was like, yeah, okay. This is going to get done. Apparently, I hear that Whitkoff will be the one going to Iran, too, to talk to them. And I think what's going to happen is, sorry. Yeah, and Rubio, yeah, everybody was when Rubio got appointed, everybody freaked out. And I'm like, I remember I got, I think I got on the phone with Luongo.

and we're just talking it through and everything. And I'm like, well, you know, I think we both at the same time came to the conclusion that he's going to be in Central America. If you're going to be sending all these people, deporting all these people, or trying to get all these countries to take all these people back, you need someone who speaks Spanish,

someone who hates communism, and someone who's not going to take any shit from these people. And it looks like he went and got the Panama Canal back today. So and last I heard he was he had stopped off in El Salvador I just saw a picture a little while ago of him meeting with Buckelly And yeah they're talking there's they're talking about like sending our worst American prisoners to jails in El Salvador you know for a small fee So I mean

Isn't that funny he's now the head of you a USAID now? You're a person that can give that small fee. Yeah. I mean, this is gangster shit. And this is what's needed. This is what you've wanted. This is the only way you're going to get change out of them, the way you're going to get anything done in the managerial system,

and the only way you're going to tear down a managerial system is you have to go full gangster. And, you know, I mean, did you see the politicians where, like, going to the USA, AID offices today and they're like doing this grandstanding where it's like let us in, let us in. We should get, no. No. No. I said openly on Twitter, they, they need to follow the president's orders to the letter. And that means if they have to stop them from entering, they do whatever they have to do to stop them.

That's where we're at. I mean, he just a, just a couple hours ago, I don't know if it was before we started recording or not. But he did a press conference talking about, yeah, we're dismantling the Department of Education. It's going back to the states. This is what Republicans have been talking about doing

for 45 years. Yeah. And what he's going to, he's going to do it with an ex-o, with an executive order on a press conference. Pete. Yeah, no, Pete, thanks for saying I just want to drive the point home that if you don't think Trump knows what he's

doing or if you think you know better than Trump, fucking idiot and you know in the words of thomas you're not in the game so pete pointed out uh witsky witsko witskoff whatever jewish guy from new york they send him to israel marco rubio anti-communist spanish speaker from cuba they send him to south america i mean this is like this seems so simple right but it's the first time it's ever been done i've never seen this before in my life because the predecessors didn't want anything to get done they wanted things to stay the same and now shit is happening all of a sudden. So, uh,

and Homan and Tom Homan, who's the, um, on the border, right? Borders are is talking about, I was just looking at this there, he's going to arrest Governor Murphy for, um, harboring,

harboring an illegal. Yeah, he's saying, uh, Zar Homan has indicated, he may arrest Governor Murphy for knowingly harboring and illegal, and illegal, immigrant. I mean, if this is what needs to be done, this is what needs to be done.

And that dumb fucking person is going to think that them getting arrested for this is going to be politically good for them, but they don't understand the tenant of the fucking polity right now. And all they're going to do is spend time in jail and then realize that actually nobody gives a shit and turns out everyone's happy you're in jail. Yeah, you literally took the words right out of my mouth for that. Listen, I mean, he has. What is this? What is this? What is this? What The word mandate, the word mandate actually now means something. What were you saying? Can you talk about the guy that just got appointed to NCTC?

It's our friend. Hold on, let me pull up because we got some. What is NCTC? It's the, I will, give me one second, I will get there. The NCTC is the Hold on Here it is The

Shit where is it Oh no National Center National Counterterrorism Center Okay so This is Joe Joe Kent

Okay So Joe Kent is being Being appointed to be the head of this. Now, what we learned from a friend of ours is that this is basically, and what I learned from research is that they basically plan all the counter, quote unquote, counterterrorism that is carried out in the field. And from what we've been told is that Joe was a ranger,

and he was then CIA. his wife was also a spook that got killed hours after the Pentagon ordered extra patrols in Syria with the intention of someone dying so they could resist Trump's order to leave the country so basically they used

some soldiers some you know some spooks as bait hoping that one or two of them would get killed, that would cause an outrage and that Trump would not want to leave Syria. And the man who was just, is being appointed head of this government office that is responsible for the death of his wife is, now he's going to be in charge of it.

And this is the guy that was on TV screaming about anybody calling for war with Iran is a sick fuck. He literally came on Fox News right after Lindsey Graham came on and was like, that guy's a sick fuck. So what mean? What does this mean? He wasn't just a regular CIA agent. He's not like a spooky spook. He was Ground Branch, which is the CIA's paramilitary organization. This guy is a spook that kills spook.

and apparently from what we heard from our friend, he's pretty good at it. NCTC has the statutory responsibility to conduct strategic operations planning for counterterrorism activities across all of the U.S. government, integrating all instruments of national power, diplomatic, financial, military, intelligence, homeland security, law enforcement, and anything else within and among these agencies. NCTC has the statutory responsibility to serve as the central and shareable knowledge bank on known and suspected terrorists, international terrorist groups, as well as their goal strategic capabilities and contacts and networks. Also under the NCTC is the FMIC. FMIC serves as the primary U.S. government organization for integrating intelligence

pertaining to foreign malign influence, including election security. FMI is defined as subversive, undeclared, coercive, or criminal activities by foreign governments, non-state actors, and their proxies in the United States to affect nations, popular, or political attitudes, perceptions, behaviors to advance that foreign nation's interests under a president at war with Benjamin Netanyahu. Interesting. Interesting. Very interesting.

I didn't even fucking think of that until you just said that. No, you know, he's here, right? Yeah. Yeah, he'll be... In Gitmo, no, I'm just joking. That would be lovely. he'll be meeting with the president tomorrow, from what I understand. Yep.

To be a fly on the wall. Oh, God, yes. And if you look at how all of Trump's negotiations go down, it seems to be like Trudeau. Trudeau said the very same thing as Shinebomb. I had a call with the president, and now I've decided that all of these things that I'm going to do are a good idea and

I'm just going to do what he says so yeah I would love to be a fly on the and you know what's funny is that like what does everybody cry about oh the first trip that every president does overseas or sorry the first trip every president does is to go to the fucking wall you don't see Donald Trump at the wall this time do you you see BB coming to him

just like at his house in Marilago the day after he got shot at when he sent that letter out on Truth Social. If you are meeting with the Prime Minister of Israel tomorrow, and you just got shot at yesterday, it would be really odd for you to put out on Truth Social a copy of the letter that you receive from President Mahmoud Abbas. Who is that? That's the president of Palestine. And what did that letter say? All about how much he loves Donald Trump. and thanks him for all these things and is really happy that he didn't get assassinated. And what did Donald Trump say?

Basically, I think he actually used the word, I love you, which is funny. He's like, I love you too, but whatever. Everybody can go back and check it out. Like, I will make sure everything will be okay. This will be fixed. And then he also put in there that President Mahmoud Abbas was the very first person to call him and see if he was okay. You know who wasn't the first person to call him? You know who didn't call him at all?

Because pretty much, by the end of a 24-hour, 48-hour period, every fucking foreign leader had called presidential candidate Donald Trump. Even Mark Zuckerberg did. You know who didn't? Benjamin Netanyahu didn't. But he damn sure did the second time. He made like a big show of it. Like, oh, sorry, you found that guy in your golf course.

That must have been terrible. My bad. Or not my bad. You didn't say that part. But he didn't say that must have been terrible. No forms of political violence are acceptable, whatever. I mean, this would be absolute hyperbole if they didn't have a pension for killing, sitting U.S. presidents and or presidential candidates.

Yeah, or, you know, I don't, I got to get going. It's midnight now. We've been going two and a half hours. But I do want to end with this. I hope it was. Just real quick. If you think Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump are, friends, you're an idiot.

If you can, at this point, Donald Trump does whatever. You're not going to make it. You're not going to make it. Why you listen? If he does, if Benjamin and Yahoo goes home with a billion dollars and 22,000 pound bombs, that doesn't mean that they're, that they're friends. That a billion dollars in 22,000 pound bombs is nothing. No, that's the kind of stuff we give to Congo.

Yeah, that's kind of stuff we give to Congo. Oh, by the way, just, Marco Rubio just announced that El Salvador's president, Buceli, has agreed to accept deportees from the U.S., regardless of nationality, as well as violent criminals currently imprisoned in America. So violent criminals, not even, not even if they're foreign immigrants. So the threat that- Oh, yeah, Americans, yep. Yep, I will send your ass to someplace worse than Guantanamo.

How about an El Salvadorian prison full of MS-13 monsters? Well, look, Stormy, they just fucking solved the black problem that we were just talking about. That's hilarious. Listen, I want to end it on this question to both of you guys. Also, everyone pay attention to the sovereign wealth fund. The sovereign wealth fund is important. Oh, yeah, right, right, right, right. I hope I'm not made to eat these

I promised Last time you were promised Infrastructure and what did you get? You got an infrastructure bill that was a fuck you white people Here, let me fuck you in the ass As I steal $4 trillion And give it to black people

And brown people and use it to invade your country That's what you got last time A president said infrastructure bill So I've been living for a while No, it's Biden Yeah Is you have the inflation reduction act? and the infrastructure bill that turned out to not be an infrastructure bill was actually the green new deal

fucking nothing yes fucking nothing yes uh 100 percent so how does donald trump spend trillions of dollars on infrastructure when the last person to promise us interest infrastructure just uh fucked us and stole our money well i've heard this concept talked about and i won't say where but what is more efficient than taxing corporations if you want corporations to move back to America there's two reasons why they're overseas one is that manufacturing and labor is cheaper overseas that's a small portion of it right i know that you're probably like stormy it's not a small portion of it, must be all of it. No. It is the tax regime, right? I am fortunate enough to be in the top tax bracket. I'm unfortunate enough to not have a family yet because that makes a

difference in how bad the tax bracket beats the shit out of you. So I pay 37% for federal income tax now. You add in the 6% that I pay every time I buy something, and I'm at 41, 42, adding property tax and other bullshit tax, and I'm damn near 50% of my income in the top tax bracket. So, taxes, if they're shitty on me, they are shitty for corporations. Because the corporate tax bracket is very similar to like the top, income tax bracket, whatever. So it's America's tax policies

that are as punitive as the labor is cheap in, I don't know, fucking Bangladesh, right? Ireland has an economy because our taxes are that bad. Right? Like the reason that Google and Facebook are over there, like, come on, come on, guy. They're not exploiting the Irish for cheap labor.

So why the fuck are they there? What's more efficient? Like let's say I try and collect 30% of whatever Apple's corporate earnings are as they try and run around the world to hide it for me. Or what would make me more money if I just owned 1% of Apple's stock? Well, if I had owned 1% of Apple's stock, I'd be getting probably close to, I don't know. $200 billion. And then next year, I wouldn't even have to ask them for money again because their success actually became my success.

So let's say you needed a bunch of Americans to start businesses because you're going to have some supply shortages. But wouldn't it be great that for the privilege of launching a business in the world's greatest economy, the government would be your first investor? or one of your first investors for just, you know, one or two percent of that stock. And now the performance of America's companies, which are the greatest in the world, they produce more wealth than anything else in the world. Their performance now fills the nation's coffers that it can spend on, A, starting more businesses,

and B, infrastructure to be leveraged by those businesses for exponential gains. Infrastructure spend is multiplicative in its return. So it's a hell of a lot easier to not tax them at all, right? But take a tiny little slice of their stock. And this way, their success is your success. their failure is your failure, right? Because Apple gives me a little bit of its prosperity every year, but I don't have a bunch of like goons and guns to take it away from them in taxes. So how am I getting a little slice of that prosperity every year? Well, I own some stock. And Apple's success is my success.

And I didn't have to tax them to get it. And every year, that success compounds on itself. So you incentivize businesses by investing in them. And in return, you take equity in them. That's what a sovereign wealth fund does. And now, because of the prosperity of all of these companies, you have all this extra cash for infrastructure and you're not have to fucking tax a goddamn thing. Yeah.

Sounds like nationalism to me, man. Listen, I got to sign off. Socialism to me. Yeah, I got to sign up. No, seriously, like what I just talked about and the removal of taxation and the spending of infrastructure and the high tariffs of protectionism is Frederick List economics. Pete, who used Frederick List and his economic theories to revitalize their European nation state? A certain German chancellor. Yes, yes, yes, yes, it was. And Imperial Japan, by the way.

So, quite literally, Trump is doing fair. fascist economics. It actually doesn't get any more fascist than what he is doing. And nobody's fucking noticing. All of the fucking Antifa faggots that are out there fighting fascism, don't even fucking recognize it because they're stupid. Yeah. Listen, gentlemen, I have to unceremoniously cut it off because I fucking depends. Great show. Great show.