The Pete Quiñones Show - The Inquisition w/ Astral, Thomas777, Stormy Waters and Pete

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

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Today, we have a variety show, I guess. We have a bunch of stuff we want to talk about, and we have a lot to get to, so we're just going to get right into it. Just always remember, check the show notes. I don't just put random links down there. I put episodes that these guys have done that sort of contextualize the things they talk about. So you could keep the conversation going and sort of get the context. But, you know, we were talking before we went on, and Pete brought up a really good question that I think needs to be discussed because you see these words thrown around a lot.

And I think we need to clarify terms here. Pete asked, is what we're doing, a mass movement or a vanguard? And Thomas, on the first episode, you said you're a vanguardist. And I think, you know, it's pretty clear what you mean, but I'd like to differentiate that between vanguardism and a movement. And this is, of course, within the context of the wider, you know, Trump election and the MAGA movement. Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me for my perspective, you know, any, this idea that Plague will change happen. because you convince everybody to

vote a certain way or you stack up the most members. That's not really how you implement any kind of paradigm shift or any kind of revolutionary change. Like that's how you consolidate it. You know, because there's no this thing that despite like cap

to the contrary and like lazy state government propaganda. There's no this thing as like a regime that like has no democratic mandate. I mean like I I don't like that term because it doesn't make any sense to talk about democracy in the modern era. But, you know, all governments are basically structured the same these days. I mean, their political values differ dramatically, but it's like assinine to talk about, like, democracy versus not democracy.

I mean, even if that wasn't a meaningless voting signifier. But this idea that, you know, that the current situation is somehow like, you know, like Weimar or something, and if you fight for some kind of parliamentary plurality, you know, then you can capture sort of key bureaucracies and

executive offices like within the state apparatus, like that's, that's not the way things are in America. Like, in some ways the American government's, like, structured to prevent that. And it just long perceives, like, the current incarnation of

of the government. But but beyond that, you know, the whole point in my opinion, I mean, the whole reason I do what I do, and like my own political values, like, majoritarian appeals are bullshit.

And they harm what I think is important. And what I think is important is people's ability to live historically and guarantee the posterity of linear cultures and

popular. and the production of culture and, you know, the improvement of life in in communityitarian and cultural terms. And you don't do that by, you know, devising some sort of scheme where you can, like, convince the most people that you're right, like, categorically that just, like, breeds, like, mediocrity and, and, and, and, um, and compromises and, and, and pointless. societies. So while I want anything to do with that. And secondly, if you look at this as, is, you know, if you look at this objectively, you know, I'm always saying there's only

globalism and the resistance. There's not like a sovereign West. There's not some constellation of sovereign countries that like make up some sort of like global pastiche of power bases. So even aside for, even if I didn't, hold the kinds of political values I did if you want to resist globalism it's a assign to

say like you know we're going to resist globalism by becoming globalism like that doesn't make any sense and finally most people who aren't cut out for partisan activities you know and I'm not advocating people break the law

because I never do that and we don't do that and we don't advocate violence other than his self-defense. But if you look at somebody like Gusty Spence, if you look at somebody like Sayy Kutte, or if you look at somebody like Krammel or Adolf Hitler, you know, the understanding was that only, like the sharepunk of political change

is a vanguardist tenancy. you know, like, what, what exactly would you do with, like, 20 million supporters, kind of, like, middle-of-the-road normies, even if you could persuade them, you were, like, a good guy or something? Like, what would that accomplish? You know, like, they're not, they're not going to, like, follow you at a war and become your, like, suicide commandos or something. I mean, like, I'm being deliberately silly, but, you know, like, why we're not the Jehovah's Witnesses. we're not trying to become the Republican Party. Like, we're not trying to become globalism.

Like, if that's what I wanted to do, I would have tried to get into the Ivy Leagues and, like, follow a career path, like, J.D. Vance. You know, and, like, not... I'm not trying to, like, stroke myself, but because of my father and because of where I grew up, I'd have better odds at doing that than some men, or I would have when I was young, okay?

I didn't do that because I don't want to fuck with that kind of stuff, because that kind of stuff's fucking stupid. You know, like, so people, that's where we're at. You know, I don't know how anybody, I'm not talking about you fellas. I'm talking about, like, random people who stumble across my con or whatever.

I don't know how anybody can, like, mistake me for some guy who's, like, trying to become, like, Mitt Romney or something. No, I think I feel, something. I like to take this moment and actually have to clarify something because I both agree and also,

one clarification in a kind of point which I've actually been meaning to get your take. I left the audio message in that in our chat and you were the one that I was hoping would catch it because I mean, Mind Comf gets a lot of flack as like, oh, I think you described it best as like, this is an election year's screed, but there really is two books. And the latter book, too, I think is really quite useful because, as he goes into a political movement in two parts, how in the age of mass democracy or mass politic, really, because you can't say that we have a democracy now,

so we'll just say mass politics, right, or mass media politics, I guess would be a better term for it. And, you know, unlike the medieval ages, things like that, when the peasantry or the mass were completely disenfranchised, as in like, weren't, I mean, I view stuff like BLM and shit like that as some type of political self-actualization outside of voting, right? That's a group of people that got organized organically, rather rapidly. We could say organically, right?

I mean, I, BOM is just brought to you by Soros Inc, in my opinion. A hundred, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah, go ahead. A hundred percent, but you're able to, a core group of cadre were able to, utilize a mass for political objective. So like Hitler talks about like this is these, you need this in these parts. You first need, this is what's important. You need your vanguard, your elite cadre, like this is where you're going to form your officer corps. These are the important people.

This is how many of them you need. This is what you need them to do. This is all this important things that can only be done by these type of people and they represent a very, very small percentage of the total population and you need to find them and they're your most important people. And then after that it goes to how to build the mass movement using those people. So when I look at when I look at kind of like the roadmap, he laid out. I'm like, well, we don't live in the 15th century and a lot of the elite school of politics is really based in a time where, I mean, let alone social media, like mass communication changes the entire world.

Like, even humanity is not the same type of person or could ever be the same type of person as it was at the time that that political theory was written. We live in a different... We're a different species now. So, which is, I mean, whether it's radio or whether it's, you know, tweeting, the situation, as far as mass communication,

isn't terribly different between now and the 30s, as much as we may like to think it is. No, but is that what are your thoughts on that? We've got totally different objectives. Like we all... You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design.

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Like the 20th century There's not much people can extrapolate from the 20th century because those conditions basically never ever ever happen And it's also in like a Vimar situation It's like okay what's what's what's the missionary intent like in Weimar if you're in the SA or if you're like an Alta coffer your notion is

we've got to capture parliament then we've got to build the state such that we can like pursue a policy of gross ROM and like prepare for war with these like superpowers want to destroy us like that never ever ever ever happens and what we

are trying to do is quit this dying regime you know, and build social capital with people who are capable of being a culture-bearing element and, you know, who are similarly motivated. And, you know, I don't, I don't need to, I don't need to corral like a cadre to fight World War II. You know, and I don't need to build a cadre to take over the Republican Party and, like, find some guy who can, you know, supplant like the president

and and bring executive power kind of like back into the hands of some sort of like sovereign mandate like from below you know and that's I

like the modern state too is if something that existed for about like 500 years give or take like all told like when it finally kind of ceases to exist and I mean honestly like I don't post like 90

45. I don't even there's really only like once, I mean the world was divided between like two globalisms for like 45 years, but now it's not, it's not like sovereign states anymore like in you know, in like the 19th century since. So, you know, it's not

this idea that like the 20th century is kind of like this ghost that won't die and people can I think globalization is dying. What's that? I think globalism is dying. Oh, it absolutely is. But what's where replacing it, it's not, it's not going to like revert to, you know, some kind of like true multipolarity in like the street,

in terms of the discrete, like, sovereign actors, you know, who are competing for power political imperatives. I mean, that's, that's over with. Like, what's going to replace it is going to be this, like, peculiar kind of like heavy interdependence between people, like, across, like, national frontiers, like commerce. Yeah, that's what I'm like, yeah. Monroe Dock. Congress is going to remain global and scale, but, like, politically, like, no one's going to pretend that, like, the U.S. government is, like,

this, like, the sovereign thing that, that is the source of, of all kind of, like, what we should have an exercise of power or something. And it's even, like, the state is dead, man. Like, it's not, like, even economically, like, just, like, just the degree. Yeah, and the degree to which the percentage, the public sector constitutes to the overall economy

is, like, tiny compared to, you know, 40, 50 years ago and it's like shrinking every fiscal year. Like it's dead. Yeah. I agree. I guess what I said about like mobilizing the masses is basically mobilizing the masses to allow you and your friends to do whatever you want. And when I see like elites and cadre,

I see both the political side, but then I also think of guys like myself and guys much, much larger than myself that are having these similar type of talks, guys with billions of dollars instead of just millions of dollars or hundreds of millions of dollars. I see their political kind of, compass checking, coming at a very fortune time because I agree with you, this state, as we initially know it, is falling away. But at the same time, as we have men of extreme means,

means like we've never had means before, really, kind of waking up to the necessity that something new needs to come. I agree with you. It likely is, I don't think we're ever going to see a political state in the sense that any of us are ever used to ever again. So I guess, I guess what I mean, but like organizing mass people is basically to allow them to acquiesce to you building the next thing because something does have to come out. They won't have any choice.

You know? I mean, it's the issue. It's like, we're going to do our own thing. Like the black folks who like leave a few miles away from me, they're going to do their own thing. Like the Spanish dude, they're going to do their own thing. Like, people want to live in some like multicultural environment. They're going to do their own thing.

and if people want to fuck it up okay bring your own army you see that works out for you are you gonna like die for some stupid principle because like you think we're doing bad things no no I'm gonna do that well think about it this way too

so you know the Jews can do their own thing right now they're wanting to do their own thing in Israel but because Israel is such a antiquated state I mean it's it shouldn't exist because

states like that don't exist anymore. It is, it's almost like on a metaphysical level it's being destroyed. Yeah, absolutely. Like, the process can't abide it. Yeah. What's also like,

they can't even, they don't even possess the will to defend it. Right? So like the Palestinians, they, you know, you can tell a lot by October 7th, by whose land it is, when you look at who left on October 8th.

Right? It just doesn't have a context anymore. Like, Zionism is this weird, it's this weird pastiche of, of, of, like, of, like, 19th and early 20th century, kind of like European nationalism. It's like this, like, racialized view of what is to be Jewish.

You know, it's like I said before, like, why, why do Israeli speak Hebrew? Like, that's what, that's bizarre language. But it's also a liturgical language. Like, like I said before, it'd be like if I corralled a bunch of kind of day one Americans are like, from now on

we're going to just write in Viking runes. And we're going to be like the Aryan state of Odin or something. You know, like there's this great book by this guy called When We Were Arab. Like he was a guy who was like culturally Arab

and he spoke Arabic. But like his family were like Arabic Jews. So like one day these Haganat types come to his house and they tell him and say illegal for them to speak Arabic anymore and he's like, what are you talking about? You know, like, there's nothing organic about that that's contrived

as fuck, you know, and like this idea that, I mean, yeah, there's like a biological component to heritage but this idea that to be Jewish should be part of this race. And you can be an atheist but you're part of the Jewish race. Like, that's bizarre. Nobody thinks that way

anymore. Like, this way people thought in the 1930s, you know, where it's like, oh, your blood makes you what you war and you're like programmed to behave a certain way. You know, like, no real Jew, like, regardless of how whatever else he feels about his politics or how, like, prejudice he might be,

like, no real Jew is like, yeah, I don't believe in God, but I'm part of this, like, Jewish race. Like, that's, that's retarded. You know, and that's one of the reasons why Zionism's collapsing. And, like, because it doesn't make any sense. You know, and it can't, like, he said, it can't, like, historically,

it can't, like, exist, because it's too much like an anachronism. you know and um it's all kind of stuff there too like zionism is weird because it's basically this like resentment paradigm where it's like it's not just it's kind of like robust nationalism like like africanors would would describe to or early or like or like or like ulster prods who are like hardline and they're in their kind of sectarian viewpoint

it's like it's like zinism is always based on like hating other people and looking at other people is like not legitimately having political interests and like not being You know, it's not, it's not like, it's not just like what's good for the goose, it's good for the gander nationalism. It's like, you're all pieces of shit. Only I matter. Only I have political interests. Only what I want is legitimate.

So anything you say, like, has to serve what I want because you're just not even human. Like, I'm not exaggerating. That's what it is. And nobody thinks that way with science. Well, it's also based on, it's based upon what it is in its modern day, upon something that happened 80 years. ago. And basically it's stuck.

While people like Mark Andresen and while people like Elon Musk are talking about, let's go to the stars, let's go to Mars, let's do this. Zionism is stuck in playing this 19th century role of tribalism that just basically

renders it renders it useless except to people who have... And friendless. Yeah. Well, and Well, it renders it useless except to people who have been brainwashed to believe that it needs to exist for a certain reason. I forget who said it was. He said, it's like you want to have an, it's like the United States and certain powers in the West want to have an aircraft carrier in the Middle East.

But it's the worst aircraft carrier possible because no one wants to serve on it. And as soon as a bottle rocket gets fired anywhere, a quarter of the population, leaves. So there's also, you can't, I mean, just the degree

to which is pathological, like I've tried to explain to people too. Like, especially if they pull the, the dunny card, like,

oh, Israel's like South Africa was. It's like, no, it's not, because South Africa was allied

with Lama and Angola. They were allied with the Zulus. You know, they relied with this entire constellation of,

like, non-Africaners. Like, Israelis literally make ops of everybody on this planet. They're a war with the Sunis, they're a war with the

Elowis. they're worth the Salafis, they were at war with the secularists, they're at war with the Iranians. How can you make an op of everybody on this planet? I mean, obviously the problem is you, if that's the case. Like, any normal, you know, this idea that

like basically the the like the natural ally of like a normal Western government in in the movies to be like Syria. You're the secular government.

it causes the sectarian divide. All the Israelites are probably occulted Oriental Christians. If they weren't, it's run by a white guy who was educated in London. So the American view is like, this man in this country must be annihilated. And we're going to hire like Salafi mercenaries who cut off people's heads to annihilate it. Because for some reason, nobody can explain like the Israelis can't get along. with anybody else. I mean, I understand exactly why they can't, but, you know, this is

not rational politics. You know, and it's finally being exposed for what it is to even people who are very, very slow on the uptake and aren't really cut out for understanding these things, but yeah, there's a naked irrationality to it. And it's also

finally, and I have some rambling, so I'll stop in a minute. Like, this isn't the Cold War. And, like, you don't just, like, deploy to, like, random theaters and say, like, we need to find allies so we can like train in our own image. It's like to do what? There's not some competing globalism.

Are they going to be cultivated by the imaginary Soviet Union? Like it doesn't matter what anybody in Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria, at the end of the day in geostrategic terms, it matters in ethical terms but it does not matter what these people believe or

like how they live their lives. Like not a wit. This isn't the Cold War. And a lot of people in government just invoke that as an alibi cynically, but a lot of them really are that fucking stupid. You know, like, they're unbelievably fucking stupid. And they, like, actually believe that. That it's, like, some legitimate strategic orientation that you, like, occupy other

countries and then, like, tell them how they should run public school or, like, say, like, you shouldn't join the Taliban or whatever, you know, whatever that means. Like, it's, it's incredible. It's, like, something, it doesn't, like, funny about it, but it's, like, something out of, like, a satire. Well, I have a question. You guys are saying Zionism is collapsing. You mean Zionism as an ideology and also whether or not that's collapsing as an ideology. Do you also mean support for Israel within, like is it collapsing within Israel ideologically and globally ideologically? Are they also? All right. So I'd like to kind of hear why, but I also want to ask if you think support for Israel within America is on the way. absolutely people hate Israel and not long ago saying like pointing out that this country is a is is is this bizarre outlier that's an albatross populated by deranged biggest if you pointed out that reality even like 10

15 years ago like people had act like you said something unconscionable or said or advocated something horrible or evil you know like nobody, nobody thinks that way anymore. Like, nobody likes Israel. You know, the fact that there's, the fact that there's some, like, pathetic hillbilly preacher or something who gets paid by Likud to preach about, oh, Israel is holy. Like, nobody believes in that.

You know, people look at, that's cringe. Like, people look at that as ridiculous. And in terms of... Well, go ahead. Sorry. In terms of the historical, the ability to Zionism, the ability of Zionism to endure historically, It's what I just said. It has no context.

There's no dialectic that sustains it. It's this bizarre anachronism premised on epistemic priors that nobody accepts anymore and that don't even have a context anymore. Zionism, as we know it, it derived from the same nexus

of a causation and dialectical processes as the Marxist-Leninism and national socialism. And obviously Israel is the only state that still exists that

it's based on ideology that derived from that same nucleus of operative causes. So it because it doesn't make sense. That's why that's why the that's why like

admittedly American discourse is incredibly stupid. But that's why these people don't even know how to like define Israel. Like, oh, it's a democracy. It's like, nobody claims that. Like, nobody in Israel claims that. Nobody pretends that.

But they don't know how else to define it as something that's like valid and legitimate to endorse. Because, not just because they're intellectually impoverished, which they are. Ready for huge savings? Well, mark your calendars from November 28th to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse sale is back. We're talking thousands of your favourite Lidl items all reduced to clear. From home essentials to seasonal must-habs, when the doors open, the deals go fast. Come see for yourself.

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And nobody thinks that way anymore. So there's nothing to appeal to. There's not the reference points to make it cognizable. So it's done. It's dead. It's a zombie. Unfortunately, like as it dies, it's like hurting a lot of innocent people. And our allies in places like Palestine and Syria, but that'll end up.

soon and you know the future looks bright for humanity because there won't be in Israel anymore well putting our initial topic aside would you care to speak about what's going on in Syria right now in the greater context you and Pete have a great series on Syria-Russia relations and

Aleppo go ahead I was going to say Aleppo was yeah go ahead no it's part of the same front as the Ukraine war. And the reason why the reason why the Ukraine war was

launched, I mean, the mass escalation whereby this this kind of, this, this, this, like, irrational, like, kind of like suicide attack on the Donbass and this provocation of, you know, tailored to the drug of Russian Federation and, like, open conflict

on the frontier. That is 100% Israel and America is returning to serve for the loss they took in Syria at the hands of the Russian Federation the Syrian Arab Army Hezbo and Iran

you know because Syria is the Golden Heights is a critical theater operational theater is a critical staging point for indirect fire and all kinds of other things

okay and also Syria is actually like a developed advanced country like it's not idiot Americans like imagine it's like it's a bunch of towelhead it's like

it's it's it's it's actually full of cultured people when it's as modern as anywhere else You know it's a secular it's a secular regime that has proven remarkably durable less the reason why Bush 41 in Bayer cultivated it You know and a there so what America is doing now Assad and the Syrian Arab Arab Arab Arabi and Hezboa and the Russian Federation they fought off the effort them to destroy the Syrian state, you know, by Israel and America and these Salafi proxies that they were exploiting, like ISIS. So now, um, Aragon who's a third rate, uh, you know, nobody in a, in a, in a goon and and a bully, you know, like, uh, Tel Aviv and Washington, you know, undoubtedly bribed

him, you know, to, uh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the back up these, uh, these Islamic terrorists, you know, who are American and Israel's favorite proxies. And then when Erdogan realized, like, the Terps in a real fight and, like, the Russians and the Syrian Arab army, we're going to actually resist, you know, like, suddenly he pumped out and now was trying to de-escalate. It's a pathetic gesture, like, as, and it's just, is it trying to burn, is just trying to rag up a body count, like, as the Ukraine disaster is coming to a natural conclusion? but they're front of the same conflict. They're not two different conflicts.

They're the same conflict. And people don't understand that. Like don't understand what's happening today in the world. You know, Russia and Israel are always at war. They're always ops. Israel views Russia as their number one enemy. And they are. All right.

So a question for the panel. You mentioned Ukraine and how it's another front in the same conflict. I'm pretty convinced that, the Ukraine war is going to end or at least our support for it's going to end or it's going to change in a major way when Trump comes in. I think everybody in the Biden administration feels that way too, which is why they gave Ukraine missiles and Ukraine fired them. But it was a pretty weak gesture. So do you guys agree with that that Trump coming in is going to somehow alter, if not end, the war in Ukraine or at least our support for it? It's naturally ending anyway, but yeah.

Yeah, they can't hemorrhage this many people, this many men anymore. It's, I think that even Zelensky's gotten to the point where he knows that that can't happen anymore, that this can't go on anymore. So, yeah, that's, I think it's, I think Trump will end it, or Trump will be the force that ends it, but it's dying already. I mean, it's, there's no reason it should, there's no reason it should have went on after April 2022, but, you know, our state. What's also, it's, I mean, it's devoid of strategic logic. Like, the whole point of it was just to, like, rack up a body count. You know, the whole point of it was, like, hurt the Ivens with attrition.

You know, this idea that, you know, I mean, it's not even really like, I mean, the only possible way for some kind of NC condition to ensue, you know, you've, Ukrainian Armed Forces, they'd have to ethnically cleanse the Donbass. Then they'd have to defeat the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. They'd have to chase the remainder of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation into Russia, utilizing nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons on the way, if necessary. Then they'd have to annihilate what remained of the armed forces of the Russian Federation and prevent them from reconstituting.

Then they'd have to be able to pressure and threaten Moss. to some kind of draconian peace whereby Moscow would abdicate any claim to the Donbass and would be precluded from deploying within probably like 50 kilometers the frontier. There is no chance of that happening. It's like preposterous that that could ever happen. So considering that from jump, Ukraine war has been this like little Zionist rant man, like throwing the population of Ukraine at Russia

to like splatter on the peribial wall and like trying to rack up Russian casualties like meanwhile there's like this like legacy media apparatus declaring that like you know Ukraine's launching an offensive like it's I've never seen it's bizarre and it's

it's incredible that the Ukrainians want to like commit suicide for for Judea but I mean apparently they like it slaves are going to slave So, well, first of all, I had a hunch the day I read that Aleppo was invaded by terrorists again, that they were just, this was just an attempt to stretch, overstretch Russia and put pressure on them and maybe distract them from the Ukrainian front.

But what position does this put Russia in globally, you know, once Syria gets restabilized and the Ukrainian war ends? Are they going to be in a stronger position than they were? Before all this, or is it going to go back to the way it was before? I mean, Russia was in a strong position. They were in the strong position they'd been in since 1989 as they defeated these terrorist proxies the United States and Israel and Syria, because they proved that in limited capacities,

at least in key theaters, they can project power, and they can win, and they can operationally integrate with their allies in a way that's a force multiplier. that is capable of tipping the balance. You know, like America's a joke. You know, you tell me, like, the Russians can take thousands of casualties,

continue to retain operational effectiveness in key theaters, morale doesn't collapse, and they can deploy to the Near East at relative scale, integrate with Hezboa and the Syrian Arab Army, engage Salafis on the ground, win, and basically challenge the IDF and U.S. Special Operations Element to come get us. You know, and the U.S. Army is not going to start taking, like, thousands of casualties, like, fighting the Air Force of Russian Federation.

They can't even handle, like, 20 KIA a week in Iraq. You know, like, so it's a joke. Like, this, like, hard talk out of the Pentagon is a fucking joke. So Russia isn't very good standing. Plus, America is a... America is a sponsor of Islamic terrorism and unconditionally ally of Israel. Like America is universally

hated, man. You know, like, we're fighting the war on terrorists. We're going to try and kill people who fight Islamic terrorists. People's... America lost all credibility in 2011, man. Like, that's when it was over. Because they started they started, like, supporting al-Qaeda

against a secular government in Syria, led by, like, a white eye doctor educated in London. That's when America was done on the power political stage. You know, you also have a world leader who, unlike ours, we don't really have a leader, but what

we have is we have rabid, basically politicians who at the, when a bullet is fired, anywhere near one of their soldiers, one of, one of their soldiers, they want to, they're calling for war. They're calling, I mean, Putin, the greatest strength of Putin is his patience. I mean, I don't have the kind of patience he does.

I don't, I would have invaded, I would have went into Ukraine in 2015. But he waited and he tried everything he could to avoid this. And every provocation, he's sat back, cool, consulted with Sergei Laxie. Heveroff and his people, and he has not acted like the animal that our animals could accuse him of being. I mean, Lindsay Graham, this incredible faggot, talks a tough game and just wants to be, you know, wants to appear. I mean, he's like butching out all over the place. But you really, you can understand why people ask, okay, who owns him when you hear the rhetoric? And then he'll...

It's just not credible. It's like America, you know, like Russia produces it. I mean, nobody has to like the Russians. But, you know, Russia produces like an actual statesman. Like America's got, yeah, it's got like some bizarre, it's got some bizarre guy with a girl's name who, like, runs around shrieking that he wants to kill people because he's like pretending to be Jewish or there's a there's these hysterical um there's these these these histrionic uh people in the state department who go around like streaking at other countries you know you can't you can't consider yourself a serious country

let alone a hegemon if that's your strategy is we go around streaking at people when we're not when we're not you know when we're not listening about how we want to kill everybody who

who is an enemy of greater Judeo like nobody takes that seriously because it's it's a vulgar and insane and bizarre you know like it's the equivalent of like some like

shitty hobo like yelling at you on the subway like how do you even respond to that you know so I mean so the Russians ignore it because like you know you there's

there's not anything being conveyed there. You know, it's just and, you know, that's why, I mean, the French are getting kicked out of Africa as we speak. You know, this stuff is, the consequence of this are sitting in, you know, and thank God for that. So, yeah, that's what we're at.

It's just, I mean, I, I, um, it saddens me that, you know, again, like our allies in places like Syria and Palestine are, are dying, but, you know, and see like belongs to them ultimately. So that's the thing to keep in mind. It's interesting

that, you know, anyone could argue against what Thomas when Thomas talks about the Vanguard. When you consider that there are people who, you know, try to sidle up to us and online and do, you know,

oh, I'm on your side and everything. And they're still buying into all this. They're still buying into the Lindsay gram stuff. They're still buying into they still, they throw around terms like third worldest when you when you say yeah I mean the Palestinians have been

they've been savage for 80 years of course they're going to fight back and they're fighting our end. Let's kill that term right now. Yeah I want to get into this because a rift formed I think there was already a rift and now a chasm has formed and some people are on one side and some people on the other side. And

what I've noticed in the online sphere, the online right, as they call it, the Twitter right, is that some people basically now, they're indistinguishable from MSNBC and Fox News, especially when they talk about Israel. And you just mentioned Lindsay Graham. When you have people who two years ago were like posting Hitler memes and videos of marching, you know, SS soldiers who now sound exactly like Lindsay Graham all of the sudden. Well, they're not, they're, they're, they're internet guys. These guys don't actually exist.

They're like playing a video game. You know, so, I mean, it's, like, it's important to tune out the flakes. You know, like, when people, like, I won't even, like, engage with those guys. You know, like, I, like, one of the, what I learned about Islam and what I learned about near-eastern people, I learned from, like, breaking bread with these guys and ladies and, like, hang out with them. You know, I mean, I, I, I mean, I personally, it's not anybody's business, but, you know, I got very tight with some of these people.

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He's like playing a video game. All right. So what is a third world is? Now, there's a difference between the origin of the term. It actually comes from the Cold War and the way it's thrown about now. I don't know, Thomas, if you want to take, you know... Well, I mean, there is no, quote, third world anymore. I mean, the three worlds are... The first world is NATO.

the United States and allied elements, the second world is Warsaw Pact and the socialist community of nations. The third world, the third world is everybody else. Like, it actually doesn't have to never had to do with, like, level of development. Like, there could be, like,

hyper-developed states that were third world. It had to do with, like, where they fell in the Cold War paradigm and strategic and military terms. Third world... Go ahead. But, I mean, not... Go ahead.

I was distinguishing it between what is the third world. Where is it located on the globe, which typically the global south. But more importantly, third world isn't, which was like a communist tactic to recruit the third world. There was something, yeah, I mean, the Soviet Union did very well at cultivating proxies in places like Southeast Asia, in place like Latin America. in place like Sepsar in Africa. But I mean, that's, yeah, okay. I mean, I, if you want to take the Spanglarian view that, like, communism was a colored revolt, yeah, I guess there's some truth to that.

But, like, this, I mean, it's AS9 anyway. Like, even if, like, what these, like, internet flakes, like, said was true about somebody like me or anybody else, again, there's not, there's only globalism and the resistance. There's nothing else. Right, right. You know, there's not, just not, like, there's not like a bunch of like Western countries. Then there's like these

other countries that are the third world who somehow are kind of with some like independent power base. There's only globalism and the resistance. Plus I mean I don't I don't I don't I don't fuck with that kind of stuff anyway

because I'm not I'm not a freaking I'm not some like goofy like white nationalist. I mean like I I uh I don't know what you have to think like me and I don't care if people like me not or what I think or not, but you've got to deal with non-white people because

they're a huge percentage of this planet. At least where I live, they're the people who are all around me. I'm not going to like being, I'm not going to like run around making ops of everybody to impress internet guys. You know? Absolutely.

To me, what white power is is the fact that because I'm mastered cast, basically like, everybody responds to me positively who's like worth talking to and I don't fuck with people who aren't who I don't view as like superior

in some way like regardless of their cast or race and that's how you rule you know running around like being something like bigoted idiot that's basically basically you're acting like a Jew if you're saying I mean like I hate to say it

but it's true I know I know I don't want to act Jewish sorry you know and one thing that people have to remember is that there were before the whole Brown versus Board of Education, Civil Rights Act, all this stuff.

The blacks were doing pretty good in this country and one of the reasons why, and I'll just come right out and say it, is because basically whites kept them in line. One of the things Thomas Sowell,

I don't think he didn't have great intellectuals. or anything, but he does make some good points. Like, really all, I mean, the civil rights movement is, aside from, like, ethnic cleansing, white ethnic neighborhoods, and Roses is a some ethical imperative. You know, it also, it basically just, like, robbed

in, like, the black community of, like, their natural leadership cast, and it's like, okay, like, go figure it out by yourselves, everybody else. I mean, like, it's, basically foobartum. Well, it's also, you know, this idea that black folks really really really want to live like on the west side of

Chicago or really want to live like in the Bronx if they have their way they leave and that's why there's been this like mass exodus out of Chicago I mean who the hell wants to live in some like cold gray like brutal city like especially if your people we were you know frankly like evolved to live in in like desert and tropical environments I mean And so basically all these problems derive from like forced integration and social engineering. You know, like I, like people left their own devices. Like suddenly these problems evaporate.

You know, I mean, yeah, there's always going to be like tensions between populations. But like this idea that there's like this ongoing war between like all races for no reason, like that's fucking retarded. And that's not reality. Well, also, you know, if you come down, if you come down to the south, okay, so say. You have a town that's like 75% white, 25% black. Out in rural areas, that didn't happen through engineering. That's just natural. And when they go to the local Piggly Wiggly,

and a black person walks by a white person, they say hi. Yeah, yeah. And they get along. And black people have their own neighborhoods. White people have their live in certain places in the same town. I'm talking about small towns. And you rarely see anything jump off. Usually it's when, if you have a high concentration in one place of blacks and very poor,

you'll start seeing real problems. But like in Alabama, where do you think the black crime is? It's in Montgomery. It's in Birmingham. It's in Tuskegee. It's in two huge cities and one city that is 98%. black. Well, it's also, these people don't, like, these internet guys and these lames, like, look, I, I've lived here my whole life. I've been fucking homeless here.

People don't need to, like, explain to me, like, what black folks are like, and they don't need to explain to me, like, how depraved, like, they can be. But, you know, a lot of, like, the hood bullshit that goes on is, like, people don't understand, like, where, it's coming from. It's not just like guys locking and loading and saying, I'm going to go fuck up white people today. It's like this weird

dynamic that doesn't really have to do with anybody with black folks and sometimes other people get caught in the cross, either like white or Spanish or other. And then it becomes like a racial matter and then like really bad things happen. And like don't get me wrong.

I think any who you're ass in a wilding exposition Expedition. If I had my way, they'd be hanging from fucking lamp post. Like, I have to have to a drum head corn marshal. So I'm not at all soft on that. But it's, like, corny when these motherfuckers act like blacks are, like, just out to fuck you up for no reason. Like, that's fucking cornball, like, pussy bullshit. I think they're scared, and they've never seen a black person.

That's how it comes across to me. I think that's a problem just broadly. Most of these people have not. never had anything bad happen to them their entire yeah exactly and it's they know nothing they've never had any success they've never had any real tragedy happen to them they've had nothing right so they will sit there and post about how having a wife and a family is gay without ever having getting their dick wet they will tell you that it will keep you from success and achieving great things when they themselves have achieved no great things and have no success.

I think that's insightful. It's just, I mean, to me, I mean, like I said, I don't claim to have great insight into my fellow man or woman, but I literally live at like ground zero of like, of of like hood shit so like when fucking people, like,

your neck guys like, you don't do it with blicks or like, I'm like, okay. well if if we can go back to the third worldist term that's being hurled around because it is being hurled around and as much as i agree with thomas that these are just guys on the internet playing a video game it is where a lot of the the discourse happens they're getting boosted let's just be real they're getting boosted and stuff that's coming out of the sphere is uh really making actual having having an actual impact on politics and you know Elon Musk randomly retweets people and comments So it's making its way all the way up.

So Stormy, what do you think? Listen to the most recent, well, I don't want to docks him or throw them under the bus, but some of the most recent Joe Rogan guests or whatever seem to be saying a lot of this stuff that... Yeah, they're paying attention. I've said... You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design. They move you even before you drive.

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Thomas has said and things I know that I've heard Pete has said, and let's put it this way, if you have wandered into our tiny end of the internet, then you probably believe some heterodox ideas and convincingly believe them. Right? Like you, there's so many detours. What we do definitely has a, it has an outsized impact, and it's like crazy of me the reach of it. like legit

I've taught like that before I'm not like stroking myself or something like my only point is look there's guys who do like have that impact then they're just like random motherfucking nobody's who are like dropping cap

about this is third worldism you know and it's like okay you're some like random fucking faggot like nobody cares what you think like that's the difference I'm talking about target priority yeah well it's also I mean who's like

whose ideas have been taken seriously. I mean, there's always going to be, like, a great course of idiots who, like, think that they're being, like, edgy if they, like, I'm a race realist, and I betcha about hood rats.

Or, you know, okay, man, like, that's basically, like, that's basically been, like, the subtext of,

of what, uh, of what, of what, like, Mitt Romney types, like, like,

talk about, like, you know, at, when they're, when they're not, like, like,

like, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, It's like lame old bullshit, but... It's very similar to the guys that talk about white supremacy. Hold on real quick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead. Like, they need to convince themselves of it. I'm sorry. I go to China, and the Chinaman dresses like me. He tries to talk like me. He tries to use my technology. I go to India, the Indian man. He tries to talk like me.

He tries to dress like me. He uses my technology. He dreams my dreams. He's not going to America. Right? if he wants a house and a tiles wing like everyone wants what they can't have right no but that's why this idea white white white supremacy is reality like it no i live in it every day so like you shouldn't have to be worried about these people there's only one group of people that have accumulated enough

power to challenge my group of people right there's only one group of people that have made it there is on Detra to come after my people and marginalize my people and my institutions. So there's really only one up. I only have one up. If you're not talking about that up, then you're not on my team. Yeah. That's why I tune out like 99% of these fools because they got nothing to do with me. Yeah, go ahead.

I'm sorry. No, I'm glad Stormy said that though, because that's why I don't want to get off the term third worldist because I wanted to make this world. Are the Palestinians? That's exactly. Palestinian occupied government motherfucker. That's why I'm bringing it up. I have the

PDL, you know, coming to shut down my accounts, is the PDL, the Palestinian defamation league, you know, coming to fuck up my shit and take away, you know, my PayPal or whatever, like, get real. Yeah, it's a smear it's a smear thrown at people who

voice support for the Palestinians in any regard, be it Hamas or be it the innocent Palestinians who are being killed, people who voice support for Hezbollah. They're the ones who are being called, being called third worldists. Yeah, so I'm sorry. Like, I don't have a brother anymore because a bunch of you faggots lied a bunch of young kids after

committing a terrorist attack on my country to go fight a misguided war in the Middle East, right? I don't have any family members killed by any Palestinians, Iranians, even Russians. Like, I'm sorry, you're my enemy. Well, that, and it's also, like I said, these guys don't have any thick skin in the game. their guys they're just like talking some shit because

you know they they've confagulated this kind of like fake world view like out of like internet and legacy media like it doesn't I mean I people call me all people see all I get like hate shit constantly I mean I'm not playing martyr it's like whatever I mean that

nobody puts a gun to my head and makes me do the things I do but it I give I can't possibly give like less of a fuck than like what some like internet cuck like things about the fact that like I don't hate Muslims and like they're my friends. I mean it's like

that's that's awesome man and plus two like you shouldn't men shouldn't be like worried about other men are doing and thinking there's like my friends and obviously I'm like invested in them you know and like that they're doing well. There's like my ops who I want to keep track of

because they may try and kill me or something like beyond that I why do I give a fuck what other men are doing this like let's all gossip about this other guy and call him names because he thinks the wrong thing. It's like a real feminine energy. You know, it's like real...

That's like serious bitchitis along everything else aside. That's like fucked up. It's also extremely immature because typically what they end up calling these people, they call their ops gay. Like, fucking, I haven't... People haven't done that since like 12 years old.

It's like you gotta come up with something better. So the thing they come up with is third world is. But, you know, for the listener and for someone who's sort of, on the sidelines are just a spectator. This is a tried and true tactic of the neocons and the Zionists to call anybody who opposes American foreign policy that supports Israel a leftist. They've always done it.

I mean, Jonah Goldberg, I just read an article by Jonah Goldberg from 2003 in National Review. God bless your heart. Calling Pat Rock, not calling Pat Buchanan a leftist because he didn't fucking support the Iraq war. And to this day, you can go on Twitter and say you don't support Israel's war, and you'll be called a leftist. And that's what the third world is slander is. It's calling you a leftist. Well, it's calling you a leftist, but it's our, John Goldberg's not in our camp. No, of course.

Oh, he's our up. These are people who are adjacent to us and even might do podcast with us. But then they come out with this bullshit. And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, what are you trying to accomplish here by shitting all over people who are willing to listen to you and hang out with you and break bread with you? Well, fuck you then.

Yeah, exactly. Fuck you. Well, no. Because they're Zionists and then we get hip to it. And then they just... Either matter, they're scared. Let's just think about the other motivator. Yeah, because they see the tide.

They got exposed and they see the tides turning against them. So those are the actual Zionists. the actual conversos, we'll say. Right. But then they're the other guys, the guys that Thomas is more talking about, the guys that'll come in his comments. And, you know,

so, like, oh, you don't hate blacks enough or you don't hate this or the group enough. Right. Why are you focusing on these guys? They're basically Europeans anyways or whatever. Like, no, you've come up with a clever ideology that lets you be edgy without actually attacking anything that could have negative consequences on you.

Right? You've somehow twisted, your worldview to take your enemy's enemy thinking like that that will make you safe like nobody cares then right so okay the power

structures enemy is the same people your enemy is like okay you should go work at the state department or like you should go like work at some NGO you're not on my team well no that's why that's why I'm always

I mean I think people get mad because they think they think I'm like talking some of shit or something but I'm constantly, it's gotten better lately because I think people realize like all this time make fun of them and and, you know, until they want to commit suicide but these fools like wash up on all that platforms like, we gotta do this. I'm like, you're nobody to meet. You're some like random fucking faggot. Like there's no we like, who the hell are you, man?

Like I know you. I'm like accountable to you. It's like you just go up to like random people on the street and telling their business because like because they're part of a wee like you know i it's it's ridiculous you know like i got these people got nothing to do with anything i do man you know like and i don't i don't know why you know like i said i've been out and about and i've had like random idiots come up to me and like they think they've obviously like never read or listen to anything i say they think i'm like a meme or something and they think i'm like some guy like like tells like inward jokes or something.

Or they think, I don't know what they think. But, you know, it's, I've been, I'm not, I'm not running for office, and I'm not trying to, like, make friends on the internet. So, if anything, man, if there was, like, some quorum of these fucking faggots, like, saying, like, I, like, like, like, giving me stroke and stuff,

I'd think that I was fucking up, man, because I'm, you know, you can judge me. I'm not just by the company they keep, but if, like, a bunch of things, Dickheads think you're cool. Like probably you're like a dickhead too, you know? And I, you know, that would concern me, man. That's the kind of, that's the kind of shit that was sticking to my shoes, man.

You know, I've been, yeah, I've been doing this a while with the podcast and putting out tons of content, thanks to Thomas. You know how rare it is that somebody who actually listens and somebody who actually like will give me two, five, ten dollars a month so that I can do this on a full-time basis like comes at me? It's like happened twice. I mean, the people are out there. I mean, the other people who come at you

it's like, that's a very good, that's an interesting point. Yeah, I'll have people who come at me and they'll be, you know, like if you have a private telegram group, the greatest moderation for it is you have to pay $5 a month to get in. Yeah. You don't have to moderate it at all. And the, but you'll, whenever somebody comes at me and they're like, oh, I listen to you show all, you know, what, and everything. And it's like, I'm, usually I'm like, okay, well, if you listen to my show all the time,

what you're saying is you'll know what you're saying is not true. And second of all, you're not in my telegram group, right? Oh, well, yeah. It's like you're a, no, you're a disrespectful prick. And you're just, you're looking, you want something for free. Is it? So these people sort of genuinely, are just genuinely not so. This was about a year and a half ago, but this one guy,

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And they apparently thought I was some other like random guy who like vaguely kind of like was like a white dude who like post a lot of selfies and like a leather jacket. And I'm like, I don't know who you think I am, but I'm like not that dude. Oh, what about when you said this? I'm like, bro, I didn't say that. you know, and like, oh, yeah, your girlfriend's a pig. I'm like, bro, I don't have a girl. Like, who do you think I am?

And, like, couldn't register. Like, I wasn't this, like, random guy, you know, because in their mind, I think it all like blends together, like, oh, this guy is a racist guy who kind of looks like that other guy. They're the same person. And I talk to other people. There's something actually kind of profound about it. I mean, I'm not saying, like, something profound about idiots saying.

No, that sounds like a, that sounds like a different racial group because to them, we really all do look the same. and, you know, it is mutual. I think these guys were white dudes, but they were just like, it, like, it, like, didn't compute that, like, I wasn't this other guy. You know, it's like, everybody somehow, like, blends together.

You're like, oh, you're, like, racist white guy on internet. You know, like, um, and there's, um, like, one of the dudes who does a bunch of, um, he's actually an interesting guy. Like, he, he's one of those guys who started out with kind of like a prison podcast, like, right when he got out of the joint. but he was getting hate from this guy

like I apparently thought he was like that Wes Watson idiot and he's like bro I'm not like West Watson I don't know why you think that I am and this dude was like insisting like oh bro but you said this that and that he's like no like West Watson said that like who's like do you think I am you think I'm

Oh like like prison beef they actually like boiled out into like the outside world Yeah it scooped you up Yeah that could actually be kind of serious No it's it's not And like I said, like the, it seemed like surreal. It was like not one, but like two guys. Like at first of all, they were just like gaslighting me.

And I'm like, no, they legit think I'm like this other dude. You know, and it's like, yeah, yeah, it's so. The one thing, and I think Astral would be kind of cranky that he stepped out for this, this park. I know it's something that really kind of aggravates him a great deal. Is like the, the absolute, I guess you say, the absolute state. state of the, or counter signulars, I guess, both on the third world is an issue and also on the, um, a lot of the, I mean, I don't even, I don't even want to say that like things like marriage and family formation would ever be an issue to anybody that, you know, is semi-raised conscious

at all, but yet it is. Um, well, again, these, these guys, they're, they're, they're just externalizing their personal resentment, you know, and they can't, so it's like they they've got problems with females or they had, you know, some, some girl like, kind of unceremoniously did them dirty.

So now it's like, I'm going to make, I'm going to pretend it's a political imperative that I've got like an axe to grind with females or like, or it'll be like some like fucking hood or ass like made me feel like a pump. So I'm going to go on being like a super a nigger or hater because like these guys

made me feel like a punk. You know, and again, it's like a real like feminine energy. Like, like, politics isn't personal. Like, that's all point is like, that's why like there's an intrinsic brutality because it's like not personal. You got to like put your feelings aside and just like stand on business.

I mean, I think. Go on. Astro. I just wanted to say my opinion is that in right wing discourse, pretty much the only thing that needs to be said about women at all is that should marry them and make babies with them and maintain a healthy relationship through thick through thin and through difficulty.

So I don't know how you guys feel about that, but all this other stuff is just noise that like it's fine. People can talk about whatever the fuck they want. It's social media, but to come around and try to say like, you know, this is like, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, do your thing.

But like, why do you have to try to make it about this like, you know, movement or whatever we want to call it? Because like I said, It's like, it's, like, it's this, like, feminine energy of guys, like, externalizing their, like, personal resentments and trying to turn it into some, like, ideological imperative. I just, I just get pissed off on, like, some guys that should know better. So, you know, women are real stupid and too emotional.

I'm like, bro, I'll take, like, a down-ass female over, like, five, like, fucking faggot mama's boys or, like, race traitors, and you get a fucking weak. You know, it's, it's weak. You sound like, you, you yourself, sound like a weak bitch if you won't cook's like women are stupid you know like it's like it's like talk that way like makes you a bitch 100% like anybody that anybody that knows is women are attracted to authority right like that's what they really like right so basically what you're

saying is like that women are just these dumb useless people but in fact if you're that guy that she views in that authority, right? Not only will she listen to you and whatever you say and follow your lead, that woman will be the only person in your life that will crawl over broken glass to help you. Well, it's these guys too. I swear to God, these guys, I guarantee you,

I'd stake, I'd stake my left arm on it. These guys are like Mama's boy, he's like trying to convince themselves, they're hard. You're like fucking teet and bitches. You know, like, I grew up in an all-male household, because my mom bounced when I was, like, 12. She, like, intermittently came back, and I mean, I love my mom, but she was, like, literally an insane person. Like, this idea that it's, like, awesome to be around only dude. It's, like, man, like, one of the reasons it was awesome when I was, like, old enough to move out,

it's, like, like, be around girls a lot. You know, it's, like, if you, like, there's a reason why, like, there's no women in prison, because, like, prison fucking sucks. And that's the whole point. You know, like, uh, like, yeah, like, there's nobody, like, lower than a sim but I get like any any motherfucker who like wants to talk about like how much he hates bitches

that I make the assumption that he's either like a closet dick sucker or he's like some model who you like who's like feels like a lady yeah he can't get laid yeah or some combination I mean I it's even I mean I don't know I mean I but yeah I don't I I lose an adverse

for anybody who's like external like where's their resentments on their sleeve you know some of you guys I've met in real life. Some of you, I hope to meet in real life soon, but every single one of you guys that I have met has no problem getting laid. I mean, especially to the woman that you're married to, and Astro, in your case. But I've never heard from anyone that is able to pull girls just singular or in general, depending on my audience, salt to taste. but that's ever said anything like that. I can't think of any single person

that is either married or could get married if he so chose to. That has ever said any dumb shit about, like, oh, we need to hate women. We need to not allow them to talk or voice their opinion or whatever. Like, I'm sorry, are you a robot? Like, if somebody says the wrong thing,

will you then immediately go and do the wrong thing because you listen to the wrong person? Like, are you, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, it's, it's like, it's, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you're, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like It's like, monkish stuff. Yeah, the fact that you're worried about women and whether they can talk or, like, what they can say or whatever, like, that is weakness. No, it's bitchitis. Well, like I said, it's the same energy. It's the same, like, bitchitis energy as these guys who, like, worried about what other guys are doing or thinking and want to, like, gossip about, like, here's that guy's the wrong opinion.

I mean, honestly, even, like, let's say like white girls. We better, we need to, we need to exterminate them all so they don't get them because, you know, women have absolutely no agency and there's going to just immediately any guy that's worried about that can't sling dick and is ugly like it's just a fact like if you're worried about some like well i think it's i think it's guys like who sit on watching pornography and they decide that's like reality you know like pornography is like a sicko sigh-up i mean in all kinds of ways

but at least i i literally haven't seen like a porno in like 30 years okay um when I was like a teenager pornos were all like girls making out with girls like guys and multiple girls and like black guys like getting with like white women that's like what pornography was

I assume it's pretty much the same today and I mean you get you're somebody weird fuck who like can't relate to people anyway you're like watching pornography all the time I mean that that like I think these

I think these these people decide like that's like what reality is like oh women all go with black guys because that's it's in prance in pran so that's the way it is well i actually there's some truth to that so i usually there's some truth to that so as a

man that is able to you know have sex with women when he so chooses i obviously like them younger and you know i'm really glad that so many of you zoomer kids are such fagots because it you catch them in the corner

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like, just not to men in their own age group and I asked them lots of things. A, that they're... A, women need to... strong men right now. Most every zoomer girl, whether, you know, I'm in my late 30s, you know, a date between, you know, 21 and 24, something 25, a little bit, a little bit older depending on how she looks. But the one thing I have noticed, um, I see it almost every time. It makes me very, very sad. It literally, literally breaks my fucking heart is that most of these girls have like,

you know, you could see at one point in time, like, and this is everyone. I'm talking like, I would say, out of a sample of 10, 8, or 9, you know, they're put on some type of psychotropic medication. They have constant anxiety all the time because their fucking world is a hell of a lot scarier than any of their parents or any of their, you know, immediate family members ever had to, you know, deal with. A lot of these girls have cut themselves at one point in time in the past. You see it when you get them naked because it'll always be like up on their end. or thigh or some shit like that and it makes me really sad. And the reason it makes me sad is also the same reason that girl is in my bed. Because there is, the men of her age are a level of,

are they feminine to a point where I would say 40% of the girls have, you know, try to go on dates with guys their age and have, have basically had a guy bring up, you know, hey, are you cool if you, like, throw a strap on, on and, like, fuck me in the ass. Like, and when I first heard that, I almost fell out of my fucking chair. And I was like, wait, are you serious?

And they're like, yeah, like, I would say it's like half of the, you know, guys my age. So, I don't know. Trauma porn seems to be, like, going somewhere into little guy's brain. That's what porn brain has.

No, no, nobody would even think. about that if they hadn't seen it in a furneau 100% like I don't I'm like a chase like sold to the apocalypse you know like I don't I don't do fun stuff with girls but like I like hang around women because like they smell

good and like they're a good company and like they're fun to tears but it's like yeah you're like a you're like a fucking four star weirdo you're like bitches but it's like but no man like I said you have no concept of what's great man everything that man did every time

that man tries to make something beautiful. He basically, whatever he's using as his medium, whether it's paint and canvas, whether it's sculpture, marble, it doesn't matter. He tries to make a woman. The female form,

the female body is the only way that man can conceptualize beauty. Right. So if you hate women, you hate beauty. You hate your people. Like, I'm sorry. If you hate women and your, not gay because I've said on this show

that the only misogyny is basically a meaningless term except for I think that the only true misogynists are homosexuals because they truly hate women so I yeah no it's also

I gotta raise up in a minute sorry to be a brook but I you know like I told people that I was actually around like a lot of homoes for a minute because like I worked at Edgewater and plus I feel like if you're like involved in like body bowling at a competitive level

you're just gonna be around like a lot of gays like most of dudes like think of themselves as like tough guys and like they they do hate women they think like pussy's like dirty they think like women are shitty they're not these like they're not these guys like they're not these guys who act like for whiny ass but they haven't to be men they're like they're like prison type dudes you know like uh

I mean that that's that's that's whatever is like the movie cruising it's not just because it's kind of like an American Jallo movie like it's kind of a rough movie like it's this kind of queasy but that is what like gay life is like it's not like Will and Grace it's like cruising it's like dudes who like

think they're tough guys who are just kind of like weird gross caricature of like some kind of jailbird type dude who like look at like women like they're fucking shit you know like um

like um like I had some of these guys that literally say to me you know I didn't encourage obviously, but a lot of people was kind of, like, talk to me. I had something's got to say to me, like, man, like, the idea of, like, pussy is so fucking disgusting.

I'd, like, mean it. You know, like, that's the way they think. They're not, they're not, like, they're not these. I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's, there's the other type, too, but there's, like, way more a bit fucking type, man. I mean, why do you think so many,

I mean, why do you think so many, like, fucking, why don't think there's so much, like, gay shit in prison? You don't, like, automatically become gay in prison, like, display with these fucking, like, normie sociology type say. It's because, like, a lot of fags and open... Unless you're black. I have heard that. I mean, there's a lot

of, like, hood fags end up in prison. Like, I don't know if your alibi, it's like, no, man, you know, you got a bust a no. It's like, no, you're a faggot. It's like, you're a faggot before you went to the joint. You know? Like, um,

I mean, like, this is like a a close topic. I didn't mean to, like, dwell on it, but it just realized how, like sheltered norse are that they think that if you listen man if you hung out on the online right for a certain amount of time and you haven't come to the conclusion that some people are just here fetishizing

the people who like post you you are fucking clueless you're totally fucking clueless if you haven't figured that out yet I don't mean you guys everything is a fetish for them yeah exactly exactly right who

who fetishizes third Reich shit more than some closet like Jewish dude or you know Yeah man That doesn't want to like confront like any type of actual like that this has to be said I'm never gonna I'm never gonna confront power

I'm never gonna go after enemies of my people What I'm gonna do is I'm going to go after black and brown people because they're weak I'm gonna go after women because they're weak and none of these people control the levels of power or actually trying to hurt me or my people Right, but I'm going to post so much third Reich shit to try and make up for it because I need to fetishize it. And don't you dare try and actually confront any type of Zionist power and make my fetish real, right? Because once you make it real, I can't enjoy it in my head anymore. And now you've ruined it.

Well, it's also a lot of these guys. I mean, I'm like a day one, like, third right freak because like since I was a little kid, like this is like what I was into. Like I was always into like rock and roll and like third right stuff and things. But like, like most of these like I realize these internet guys like I'm talking like even big and using it days but it's even worse now you know they

I'd try and interact with them because like I thought they were okay at first they were saying that stuff I do but then I realize like to that in their mind like third right stuff is just like about bad guys so it's like it's like if you were like a seventh grader in the 80s like claiming you're into Satan or something

like that's exactly correct yeah like they're not actually into it And then when I'm like, man, when I point it out to him, like, they like don't, I'm like, you just like expose yourself. I'm like, you don't actually like respect this shit or no like why it's cool. You're just like a bag. It was like, like, thing he's being like, like, he's like trying to piss off squares or something. Well, there's another thing about like the twink type gaze because twink type gaze are basically just trying to misbehave.

All they all. They want to be abuse. Exactly. They want to be like the bad boys. They want to basically be acting out. they wanted like and i mean we can think of guys right now like i don't know wearing like cap boy shit or whatever like you're doing this because you want to be like the bad you know naughty boy and surprise you're also into a bunch of gay shit surprise you're also like you know fetishizing third

rike shit i mean it's like if i if i believed you know psychology and you know psychotherapy was a real thing i would have a fucking field day no I've been I've occasionally been called approach to by fucking weirdos and they taught they're like

yeah like I you know like I love this like image that you know you're like playing online I'm like bro this is like my wife man like I actually am like

into this stuff I'm not like playing a character or something and it's like alien to them because their wife is like playing some character or something

it's like yeah it's legit like an RPG to them yeah and that's why like I I'll post pictures of KG on myself when I'm like a little kid because it's like, see, man, I'm actually a real person

and this is just like what I'm into. Like, life isn't this like bizarre, like ironic, like fucking like play acting where you like act like a dickhead. You know, like I'm not like pretending. I like the third right because it's like some like ironic joke that like you know, my like my bisexual

friends will think it's funny or something. Like I've had Zoomer guys tell me like oh, so is that like your bit? I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, whatever you've got to have a bit, man. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, it's really weird, man.

You know what the best thing to be the one fucking brown third world guy on the panel here? Actually, I don't know what Pete, I don't know Pete's ethnic background. But as an Italian, like, when I come around to... Yeah. Peter's black. I mean, I have two, that's why we're homies. I haven't come around to all this stuff and being where I'm at. And I'm like, man, I've really fucking come a long way.

since I was 20 years old. Then I remember when I was a little kid and my mom used to be like, you know, your grandfather. My middle name, by the way, is my grandfather's first name. She's like, you know, your grandfather. I love him, but he, he loved Mussolini and he didn't think the Holocaust really happened.

So whenever I think I'm cool, I remember, like, wait a second, I'm fucking just barely catching up to this guy who never read a book in his fucking life. That's awesome. It also goes like this is, it also goes with like the hatred of poor, people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a whole, yeah, man. Like, that upsets me more than that was never a thing. That was like, I mean, that was a thing like, but like, in terms of what

it's like, it's like a weird old, like striver thing because like. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's goofy. I mean, again, I'm not trying to stroke myself, but like I did grow up and was commonly called like a super zip. So I'll run into these like goofies from some like, random Walmart town and they're like trying to come at me like gangster rappers or something like I'm poor it's like I don't know man like I grew up like meeting world leaders

and like yeah I went to like school with like fucking like millionaires kids like I'm not impressed by the fact that you know you're you're like the richest guy in the trailer park and Terry Hope man it's okay I'm like a big loser who's poor okay

it's like you're like outing yourself as like a white and word if like you think that way 100% But yeah I gotta I gotta I gotta raise up man like forgive me for being A lame I'm just like really tired and I I gotta

I gotta I got a really I got a really morning tomorrow for a change I wake up early always but generally I'm good at avoiding I'm gonna schedule stuff early but Yeah thanks for joining us again man No of course man Yeah I guess Well uh it's in my calendar, man.

If you wanted to record some stuff like on Wednesday, is that correct? Thursday. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Thursday. Yeah. No, that's fine. Yeah. All right, fellas.

Yeah. We'll reconvene soon. And I'll see you all in a bit. All right, Thomas. Thank you. Cheers. Yeah, man. Take care.

Pete, I hope I, I hope I didn't call you out, man. But your last name made me think me and you might be co-ethnics. I think of you two of the greatest. empires in history. I've never hit it. I've never hidden this. I'm like 86% European and then it's like a mixture of

there's some North African in there. There's some 1.2% Jewish. No shit. There's also some American Indian in there and like French and other stuff mixed in there. But

I'm like 50% 50% Polish Hungarian because my mom's the mom's Polish Hungarian and then my dad I have a lot of I have like 36% Iberian Peninsula and then starts breaking down after that

Kenunis is Spanish and the Spanish like two of the most I would probably have to say like largest and most successful empires in history well the Spanish Empire I mean Spangler thought that the Spanish Empire was the most

successful in history as the one I believe that he in Prussianism and socialism he keeps referring to it referring referring back to it so what I was going to say earlier about Hey are you guys good for like another hour by the way Yeah yeah I should be alright

Sorry to interrupt you go ahead Yeah what when you guys were talking about like Women and everything I think one of the I mean this is just a theory of mine, one of the main problems is that life is so easy nowadays. You don't have to go kill your food. You don't have to pick it. You don't

have to clean it. You just go to the store and you get it. Most people can get a job where they don't have to work with their hands or do anything strenuous. Life's too fucking easy. And being married and having a relationship with a woman is not easy.

It's something you have to work at. So it's like people are like, oh, fuck this. They look upon like getting married. and dealing with a woman as they would like working with their working manual labor. Yeah, that's also why they say like, oh, well, it's keeping you from success and greatness. Well, where's your success

and greatness? Yeah. That also takes hard work. It seems to be the only common denominator is that you don't want anything that involves duty. The thing is... Just fuck around and do whatever you want. Pete, you're married and Stormy. I know you're not married, but Pete, I've never once heard you bit

about how hard it is to be married. And I've never heard any of my married friends bitch about how hard it is to be married. Dormie's met my wife. Yeah. Granted, granted, I mean, I've met some other people's wives, too, and I understand if some of them would have reason to bitch, but I don't think that Pete would have. Let's put this way. She's the nicest way.

But the point I was trying to make, though, is to Thomas's point, A, it's, just a it's a bitch move to complain like that. It's what a woman or a Jew does. But also, my ultimate point is that the people that we're talking about who bitch about it aren't fucking married. There are people who aren't married. So they're scared or they're jealous because they feel like they can't get married.

I think it's that. Yeah, I think so much of the right. And I mean, this is the uncomfortable truth. I post about today for the first time, but I've been thinking about it for a long time. I think so many of, like, the people that think that they're in our thing or whatever

are as much, if not more resentful than leftists. I really believe this. Yeah, I do, too. If you try and post any, like, I've noticed that nobody, everybody talks about, like, success and doing great things, but I never see anybody post about theirs ever. And statistically, that's impossible. because I mean at least some of these guys. However, like, there's a ton of us.

Somebody should be, like, I should be able to find one thing every single day I scroll the timeline of somebody fucking knocking it out of the park, somebody doing something great, and then I should see nothing but our guys uplifting them. If you ever fucking do something great that's anybody that's listening or something that you're proud of, tag me in it, and I'll fucking retweet that shit for the rest of the day.

Because that's really how we should be. Well, one of the reasons I don't, really talk about stuff that I've done in the past and successes I've had done in the past is I'm just not like one of these people who talks about themselves. You know, I mean, I worked. I noticed that. Before I, before I did this, before I started podcasting, I worked, I've podcasted full time and worked full time for the first four years. For the first four years, I was podcasting. And then I was able to, through the generosity of,

of the listeners transfer out and be able to do this full time. But, you know, I mean, I had a, the reason it took me that long to quit is, I mean, I had a great job. I had a great career. The company I worked for was an very, very old company. And I had a job for the rest of my life. I had promotions if I wanted and I used to turn down promotions all the time, just because I liked where I was at in the company.

and sometimes promotions are the worst fucking thing you can take in the company. And all I need to do is look at the person who's doing that job and go, okay, why aren't they at that position anymore? You know, so... Yeah, why aren't they happy? Why do they always look like their fucking hair is off right? So, yeah. So, I mean, I just don't talk about it. But, you know, it's not like I wasn't successful before I did this.

I mean, I think the reason I was able to be successful at this. This is because I was successful before, and I understood what you'd think. But also something I did that a lot of people just won't do is I asked for help. I went to people who had podcasts who were huge, and I said, what do I do? Give me tips. Tell me how to do this. Tell me what I need to do. And I listened to what they said, and I did exactly what they said.

And people just don't want to do that. They feel like it's some kind of weakness if they ask other people for help. And there's a difference between asking people for help and then asking people, oh, can you fund this for me and that for me? And I want to quit my job and I need you to pay my bills for me. No, that's not what I did. I just went and I said, how did you do, how did you get to the point where you didn't, you could do, you could do this full time?

And how did you get to the point where, you know, you had people who were listening. You had people who, you know, I, today, I was contacted by the OGC man on the ground melon in North Carolina. And they're, you know, at the point of trying to recover bodies. And they needed, yeah, they needed a boat. And it was, it was basically a raft. And it was like $14,500 or something like that. And he reached out, he said, is there anything? you can do to, you know, try to get this money and everything.

And I said, well, let's see what I can do. So basically what I did was he said, oh, it's on Amazon. I'm like, all right, it's on Amazon. So I bought it. And I had a ship. I'm having a ship to him. And then I went and I put out the word that I said on my substack email, my email list. And I said, you know, we still have people on the ground.

They're still people working. they're at the body recovery point now. I bought this. They need a boat. I bought this boat. If you would like to contribute to this by basically reimbursing me and everything, feel free.

And, you know, it's... I haven't looked because I've been new in this, but it looks like, you know, we've already gotten enough money for it and everything. And anything else that comes in, I'm just going to... You already do? yeah and i'm gonna anything else that comes in now i'll just send to them so that they have um they can use

it for something else because they're constantly needing money we're constantly sending them money so that they can let me know yeah but you know this is the you know when thomas talks about this all the time it's something that i learned you know that i talked about with people that i've known who've been in doing the kind of thing, podcasting and newsletters and stuff for, for over a decade now. And they always talked about it's social capital, what's most important.

And if you don't have social capital, you don't have anything. And the only way you're going to, the only way you're going to get social capital is you have to be an honest person. And you can't fake that. I think most people know I'm not faking when I do this. When I talk about, you know, this regime needs to die, we need to be able to take care of ourselves.

I'm not playing a role. You know, I didn't play, I wasn't playing a role when I was a libertarian, and I was promoting libertarian stuff. When I realized that that was wrong and I apologized and I made the switch and everything, I did it in a real way. There was never anything, there was never anything phony about it. I'm, that's who I am. And that's who we all have to be. And the problem is, is there are most people, a lot of people nowadays, because everything is so phony, they just buy into that.

And they don't realize that they're buying into it. And then they come off as phony to a lot of people. And, you know, I see that because of, you know, the kind of audience and the kind of following I have on Twitter and stuff like that, I just see phoniness all day. And I've gotten to the point now where I can just tell who's being real and who's being phony. And we live in a world where there's hardly any, the kind of person who will stand up for their own principles and everything be damned. They're so rare that people need to realize that if it's you, if that's who you are and you're staying shut and you're, you can achieve. you can achieve great things

by just being yourself and speaking your mind. I mean, don't get yourself fired, don't get yourself in trouble, don't get yourself, you know, but we live in a world that's just fake. And by being real, you're like, oh, you're a rebel.

If you act real on Twitter, and you have a real opinion, people are like, oh, this is, you know, you're larping. This is, no, I'm not fucking larping. No, no. If I was larping, I wouldn't have moved to where I moved and live where I live. You would have larked as something that was way more profitable, like libertarianism. I don't think enough people in our thing give you credit.

Like, I was listening to you early on and listened to you make that switch. If you wanted to just larp, you would have kept larping at what you were doing and made twice as much money. Like you literally took, I believe, probably more than half. If I think it's half, that was probably, that's probably an understatement. then? You don't, you don't, you know,

you're pretending. I could have went to con ink. I could, I could be making millions of dollars in con ink. Yep.

That's not who I am. It's not who I'll ever. Because it's funny. This is kind of what listening to guys like you and, you know, people can say whatever they want about, you know,

oh, our thing doesn't matter. Oh, nobody's really listening. and da-da-da-da-da-da. I, hearing you and a couple other guys, you know, basically, because really, like, for someone like me, this is even saying any of this stuff is, there's really no positives, right? It is all downside.

If you're successful inside the system and the regime, you know, all of your incentives are just like, hey, just shut the fuck up, pretend you don't see what you see, and keep being successful. Right? Like, there is no upside at all. But if you guys had the courage to do it, then what the fuck was I doing? Like, your options are keep on living a lie or, you know, basically, you know, sorry, keep on living a lie while trying to listen and consume content by people

that refuse to listen to or to live a lie and then just, you know, think that what that you're doing is okay or make excuses for it or say like, oh, well, this thing, like, if you're not taking as much risk to yourself as you can conservatively, right, again, to what Pete says, you're not quitting your job or you're not getting fired or anything like that. but how can you expect anyone to go out in a limb for you if you don't do it yourself like i don't get it i really don't yeah i hear this i hear this all the time i hear um you know people people will complain and they'll be like um well if we have people who are fans of ours who are who are millionaires and billionaires why aren't they just throwing money at us

me a reason. That's another thing, is that they have no concept of money. Like, oh, I have an idea, so therefore somebody should give me money to do it. Like, if you're not trying to do it yourself regardless of my money or Pete's money or anybody else's money, that means the second that it gets hard and all of my money is gone, you're just going to give up because if you really wanted to do it you would have done it

whether anybody gave you money or not and that's the only reason that people would ever give you money because they're like oh shit this guy's going to do it whether I'm involved or not so I need to either get on the train or watch it go by like I have to choose

right but if you're just sitting around like oh I'm not doing anything I have this great idea for this amazing thing. It would be so great. It would fix everything. But no one has just stumbled across me and written me millions of dollars in checks.

So I guess I'm never going to do it. Or, you know, I'll do it when magic money person comes around. Nobody's willing to put any skin in the game. Like, again, again, we're right-wingers, right? Yeah, okay, we supposedly value self-sacrifice yet. We see none. we're supposed to value on or we see very little of it we're supposed to value greatness and success

but yet we tear everyone down there there is a lot of money floating around though and as far as I can see it's actually a bad thing because the people who are yeah the people who are getting money not the people who are making money by the way. We got to distinguish between the people who are doing what they're doing and they're making money on it versus other people who are getting paid to do it by someone else.

They're two very different things. The people who are getting paid to make money, to make content, excuse me, by someone else, well, they're kind of doing it to forward an agenda that the money bags has. and we see the negative consequences of this in politics and in the discourse. Because, well, I mean, I don't really, I'm not really here to start calling out institutions or people by name. But I guess if we have to name one, it would be the Manhattan Institute. I mean, also everybody's, the one guy everybody loves to hate is James Lindsay. I mean, James Lindsay is not just out here on his own saying what he thinks. He's working for someone. I don't pay attention to him enough to know who it is.

But that's why I don't even think he's worth... Your YouTube algorithm will always put either him, Jordan Peterson. Yeah, exactly. Or Lex Friedman, you know... Yeah, Lex Friedman and Jordan Peterson are the other two guys. I was thinking of... The CEO of YouTube got cornered once at like an all hands meeting. So it is on video if anybody wants to look for it.

And she gets basically cornered by this like rabid, like I'm assuming trans woman or whatever. Basically, I'm like, how can you allow people like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and all of these vile like hate. filled people on YouTube and then come here and tell us you have a commitment to safety and you have a commitment to you know whatever the words are and she goes no we've done our research and the lady the trune the trum looks confused and she's like no we've done extensive research you know even though these are you know basically like you know hateful bigots they have a de-radicalizing effect all right so we actually want to promote them because they are de-radicalizing people that would go on to find much more extreme content.

Oh, that reminds me. I wanted to ask about Pete's stepped away for a minute. I'd like to get his take on this too, but the radicalization pipeline. You hear the left talking about the radicalization pipeline. I think that's real. I think the radicalization pipeline is real and it needs to be. taken seriously and thought about and that's why i i think there's there's two there's two things there's people who are not as far right as you on the spectrum and then there's other people who are

running subversive campaigns and you'd be able to distinguish between the two of those and call out you call out the ones who are running subversive campaigns but the ones who are maybe farther towards the middle on the spectrum but aren't necessarily subverting uh are are are they should be left alone. Pete, Pete stepped away for the listener. Pete, I brought up a... Yeah, I'm just letting the listener know why I'm reiterating the topic I brought up. I'm talking about the radicalization pipeline.

It's something that the left talked about a lot when they were going after the internet. They were trying to cordon off the internet and silence people and delete people. I remember when Stephen Molineau, who I wasn't really a fan of. I never really followed him, but he's somebody who got. got unpersoned. You got completely deleted out of the discourse. And the reason why is because, you know, the radicalization pipeline. But my opinion is basically that if someone's not as radical as you, like I'm talking about

a pundit. If a pundit podcast host or a Twitter personality is not as radical as you are, that's no reason to denounce them. In fact, you should support them. You should let them do their thing. whereas the subversives and I mentioned, you know, the only, one of the only people I wanted to name in that was James Lindsay. It's pretty clear to everyone that he's a subversive and he's being paid and he's got people behind him who are there to try to steer people away to take people out of the radicalization pipeline. So, of course, he should be denounced and attacked.

But someone, you know, closer to the center, I don't even want to necessarily say to your left, but closer to the center. but closer to the center, if you're attacking them, but they're sincere, you should leave them alone. You should see them as an ally. I don't know where you stand on that being. Well, I mean, I think the most obvious,

I mean, there's a couple people we can talk about. I mean, Jared Taylor is probably one of the most effective people on the planet for what he talks about, but he gets yelled that because he doesn't mention the Jews. Yep. That's a great example. Yeah, and then, E. Michael Jones

Yep, that's another great example. He doesn't talk about race. He doesn't even like believe in race. But when he talks about, when he talks about the Jews, he has, he has a historical context. But in our, like immediately in our group, like Orrin McIntyre. Yep. Or another guy. If you're counter signaling Orin, you're a cool. Yeah.

He's a boomer friend. He's a boomer whisper. Yep. I know very powerful boomers, very powerful boomers, very powerful ones that. listen to Orrin McIntyre show every day. I mean, so why would you... Oh, he's not calling out the Jews every five seconds and everything. Oh, it's because he works for the blaze.

Oh, it's because he's getting paid not to. Or maybe he does what he does, and by doing what he does, he's effective, and by calling out the Jews, he wouldn't be as effective, because he wouldn't have the platform that he has. Yeah. Who is he platforming? Yeah. Look at the guests he brings on.

He's had Greg Hood on. He's got crap and caught crap over it. Yeah, and he's had our dear Jay Burton on several times. Jay Burden, the Prudentialist is on all the time. I mean, he has Charlemagne on. I mean, come on. Come on. Come on.

We'll use avatars to these. people, these online, so many of these people, like, why aren't you doing the thing that I want? Why aren't you doing the thing that I want? I have one. That person. My interest, why aren't you talking about my interest? Well, somebody else is.

And somebody else is doing it probably better than you know, than the other person you want to hear. Oh, but he has such a big platform. If he would just talk about them. How do you know? How do you know they're going to be effective? Yeah, welcome to, welcome to,

welcome to the right. It's so nice to have you. You've been here for 30 minutes. Please shut the fuck up. Yeah. Oh, no. I've been in the right for 10 years. Okay, who are you?

Yeah. How come nobody knows you? Yeah. Who are you supporting? Because anybody that's been here for five minutes knows that's a terrible idea. Whose worker you're supporting for $2 a month? Whose work? Oh, you want everything for free?

Oh, okay. Okay. And then, and then when you, this free product, you're going to bitch about. Okay. Fuck you. I mean, literally, fuck you. Thomas is right.

It's a vanguard. You want to be a part of the vanguard, but you just don't have what it takes because you don't have the temperament for it. Every once in a while, I will scream at my audience, especially on my live streams. I will do it.

Why am I doing it? Unfuck yourselves. Stop. You're doing, you're fucking up. You're attacking the wrong people. You're coming into my fucking comments, my chat on my live stream, wanting to talk about internet gossip. Did you hear about Twentis?

Did you hear about destiny? Did you hear about, I don't, I don't care. Yeah, man. I haven't posted about that. Why? Fucking useless. Useless information has nothing to do with Syria. It has nothing to do with Trump's cabinet picks.

It is a distraction. And if you're too fucking stupid to figure that out, go, I mean, stop. I don't want to hear from you. If you can't tell a distraction, I don't want to hear from you. If you can't even figure that out and then you want to complain about what we talk about, I think people also don't know the difference between public and private conversations Yeah

Yeah Yeah You want to complain You want to complain that Thomas is Thomas doesn't hate Islam I mean What is this? 2001

What are you If we don't fight them over there We're going to fight them here The fuck's wrong You have to you have to You have to trade the people That Bill Crystal says you need to hate Yeah

When the Jews tell you who to hate. You better fucking hate them. Oh, no, I don't need you just to tell me that, really. Really? Who do you say did 9-11? Yeah. It's too bad. These people don't see that, and not to repeat myself,

but they don't see that this stuff they're saying has been said in mainstream media outlets for 25 years, if not longer. And I don't... You're saying the same shit. It's the State Department. not my friend. And I didn't go online to fucking hear this shit. Like what's the point of going online to participate in these discussions if you're going to get the same thing you can get if you

fucking read the national review and turn on Fox News? There's no point. You might as well just not even bother. You might as well go online and talk about music and video games and movies, which is perfectly fine to do. But don't act like you're a fucking reincarnation of, uh, you know, the third Reich. It's part of Yaki or someone like that. I mean, you don't have that in you. Most of these people just don't have that in them. I don't have, I mean...

Let's talk about Yaki for a minute. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I have the power to do. I'm just a voice out there. I'm just a voice putting information out there. That's it. That's it. I'm telling you about things that are happening. I'm telling you about things from the past.

I'm trying to, you know, I try to, like, not tell people what to believe. Mm-hmm. And it's so hard because people want to be told what to believe. They want to be told what to do and what to believe and how to live their life. And I wish we didn't live in a world where people needed to hear what to believe and what's it. But here we are. And the problem is, is that anything I'm telling you,

if you don't go and double check it yourself, that's your own fucking fault. But no revelation that, oh, 40 years we've been talking about this and shit has just gotten worse. And whenever we do have a little win, whenever somebody goes, whenever somebody adopts our,

what we want to do, oh, what is it? Legalize weed, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution, everything that is like leads to the degeneration of society. Okay.

Thanks, guys. Are you talking about the libertarians? I mean, yeah, because that's where I came from. But why does Oren talk about conservatives? That's where he came from. This is what I know.

And it's just, I mean, how can you, how can you, like, for four years? I mean, just say, just everybody's like, oh, well, if 2020 caused you to change your values, my values didn't change. How I understand the world

and how I understand other people, that changed a lot. Yeah. And things should change too because the world changes, politics changes, the shifting tides of American political culture has changed drastically over my lifetime, you know?

And over time, you can't keep necessarily the same position on certain things that you did earlier because, like, the zeitgeist has shifted, you know? Like, for me, I've always been anti-war. I mean, Pete, I think from observing your content over a number of years, I know we're both, like, we both follow, like, Scott Horton and, like, Ryan Dawson and Darrell Cooper and other guy. to they're like the anti-war libertarians right but other things have shifted as well like

culturally um film and literature has just been completely captured by the woke and by the left hopefully that's coming back i mean people are saying the woke is dead what do you guys think about that let me ask you guys about that do you think it looks like perhaps we may have come out of that morass where like leftist points A, B, and C, if you don't meet these specific points that are like as far left as you could possibly be.

You should hope that that does not happen. Why is that? That was the greatest gift we ever got. I mean, it radicalized me, for sure. Yeah. Well, definitely radicalize me. Just as the spirit of the age doesn't change overnight.

I mean, that's what you're talking about. We're talking about the spirit of the age changing over time. has to be over a lot there. So what you're going to see is you're going to see the woke is going to continue to, it'll be there, we'll hear about it. It'll take some scalps along the way, but we'll also be changing over to something else. Whatever comes next.

And I have a tendency to think that said this for, said this for a while. The next thing is either going to be left or right authoritarianism. And the way it looks like, it looks like it's probably. going to be some form of right-wing authoritarianism. Yeah. I'm glad you said that. I agree. You're not going to see that with Trump. I don't think

I'm 99.9% positive because, I mean, he's a Democrat from Queens. But we're going to shift. The spirit of the age doesn't happen in four years. It doesn't happen. I mean, how long did it take Rome to fall? I mean, there were people

who were saying that Rome had fallen 200 years before it did. all right well we live in an information age things go faster now I don't think it's going to take 200 years but in the spirit of the age I don't know that it'll change in my lifetime but it's changing you're seeing it go to something else and I mean I think people should be excited about it if you if you like history you should really be excited about seeing change even even bad change you know things changing poorly if you like history because maybe it doesn't match up with your values but it's really when you see a societal shift and you see like a when you see the spirit change, that's something that's, you know, rather interesting. But yeah, I mean, you, is the woke's dying. Just as Israel, people, you know, people are like, oh,

Israel never die, you know, it's like, you know, the whole thing about 80 years, no, no Jewish kingdom lasts for it longer than 80 years. Well, they got four more years. is Israel going to disappear in four years? No, probably Israel will still be there, but I think quickly it's becoming something different. Well, that goes to something I wanted to bring up earlier. The shadow of the Holocaust that was the capital

that the Holocaust was able to afford the Zionists and, you know, Israel as an entity that had an effect on American politics, A new generation is coming in. And one of the reasons why I'm optimistic about Trump, despite disliking a lot of his picks in his cabinet, is that people that we've been talking about, like, Mike Huckabee and Lindsey Graham in particular are like dinosaurs. They're like holdovers from an earlier era that's dead. And they're just like the last vestiges.

And then somebody like Marco Rubio is like kind of like a persona non grata. I mean, even though he's got this position, like I was. I was actually surprised that they put him in there. But I don't think he's a harbinger. They wanted to get him out of the Senate. Yeah, I don't think he has much of a political future despite his current position. They need to get him out of the Senate and he wasn't going. He probably wouldn't accept anything like less than something like the like Secretary of State.

Yeah, he's got no. You know, now, oh, another thing I wanted to ask about before, do you guys, where, where are these pro-Israeli, excuse me, not Israeli, but pro-Israel Zionist Christians, the evangelicals that bolstered the neocons, that the neocons courted and actually got under their sway for a long time. The reason I said, Mike Huckabee is a dinosaur and a holdover and a last vestige of a bygone era is because he's like, he's one of those guys. But like, I mean, are they still around? Are they still an influential voting block?

And if not, where are they going to go? Are they just going to kind of fade into the background? Just from somebody who lives in a small town that has like 20,000 Baptist churches, well, not 20,000, but literally 90% of the churches are Baptist churches. I think I've seen one Israel flag since I've been here. Yeah, that's, they just don't even care anymore. Is that, I mean, you know, at sure, at the, at the Baptist church, my wife, my wife likes to go to. No one mentions Israel.

There's one guy who, if he's asked to pray aloud, he'll say, oh, and let's pray for Israel and everything. And no one responds to it. The preacher is not talking about Israel. The parishes I go to, no one has mentioned, you know, support for Israel. I'm sure. I heard from a single flag, and I live in fucking South Florida. Yeah.

It's what Thomas said. It's like, it's just dying. I mean, it's any kind of like, pro-Israel kind of sentiment is just basically now like muscle memory but they're not going to be able to back down

though because it is they are unified by this right so basically what we are doing in pushing back against Israel it all is confirming all the things that they're yet to told them about how one day the white Christians will come and they will throw you

in a camp or whatever right so I have seen it unified unified them. They're not so much trying to convince us anymore. Yeah. But I think it's great. That means they're being more out in the open. Like, it's great.

Like, I mean, my mom and her hairdresser, like, my mom hasn't watched a fucking television news, like, but like I can't think of anyone more disconnected with current events than my mom.

And she's telling me, how awful it is what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Like every, I had two zoomer girls trying J-Pill me over, over like apparently the last two weeks. Dude, the zoomers know what's up, man. It's insane.

If you get the chance to somehow talk to them, they're not fucking buying it. They're not buying it. But the thing is, is that I'm seeing. And the kids, the Jewish kids are embarrassed by it. Yeah. Right. The real young ones. I'd say the pro-Palestinians.

Yep. Yeah, I'd like to remind people, by the way, that like, we sure talk about Jews a lot. But, like, dude, you talk to a normal fucking Jewish person who lives their life and doesn't fucking hang out online. It isn't a rabid foaming at the mouth, Zinus. They're just normal fucking people. They're just normal fucking people. and they don't feel any sort of like ethnic commitment to Israel. Like the sciop didn't work.

You know, John Cuddehy calls in the introduction to, what is his book, The Ordeal of Civility, he called Zionism another ordeal of civility along with psychoanalysis and communism. And Yaki basically says, too, I said this on a earlier episode,

that it's basically a sciop. It's basically a sciop because they want people to feel a certain type of way about Israel, but they don't want to, these fucking people that aren't like refugees from the Holocaust and aren't refugees because refugees from the Ukraine war, because that's where Israel

gets a lot of the people, especially the West Bank settlements. You know, when everything happened in Kosovo and Albania in the 90s, when all that popped off, the Jews fled. They fled to Israel. When everything happened in Ukraine and Russia invaded,

the Jews fled. They fled. They half the Jewish population of Eastern Ukraine fled to Israel. So that's where they're getting their people. But the people who have comfortable lives in America or Europe, they don't want to go there. They don't want to live there. What are they, what am I going to do?

Leave my comfortable life in middle class America to go sign up for the IDF and fight and fight Hamas? If I want to go to Spain or if I want to go to Poland or Hungary or something like that, I'm going to basically look at my history. What's their history when they go back there? What, is there a temple waiting for them to? Really, think about this. Think about what is the history of Israel?

If I go to Spain, I'm going to go and I want to see, I want to see the fortress that was defended during the Spanish Civil War. I want to go to Basque country. I want to go. I want to see these, you know, the churches that survive the war and, you know, are a thousand years old. If I go to Poland, same thing. If I got hungry, same thing. I want to see all these things that my relatives, like the churches they went to, you know, the place.

What are they going back there for? What's the history they're going back there for? There's nothing. Yeah. There's nothing. You have the religious nuts, right? The Shabbatniks, which there's so many of the ones that are lopping online as Nazis turn out to be Shabbat guys.

All right, so like, all right, you're in like a little cult. All right, like you've gotten zapped with a little bit of Kabbalah. Yeah, it's exciting. It's stolen, by the way. For any of you that don't know, if this is the first time you're hearing it, Kabbalah was stolen from the Greeks and the Egyptians. It's not theirs. It's a couple books out of a much larger tomb of texts.

So even the Kabbalah isn't theirs. But the ones that got like a little zap of mysticism or two, they're in this religious cult that is quite fanatical and quite insane. Those guys, I don't know if they're going to ever give up the ghost. Meaning what? Let's clarify for the listener that Shabad is... It's important. Kabbalistic

Kabbalistic Yeah I don't like calling anything What do you mean by They're not going to give up the ghosts It's not even It's not even believe in one way It's not even monotheistic

It's polytheistic to Israel Shah I've talked about that in Jewish history Jewish religion He exposes the whole Kabbalistic Where these rabbis were up there And they're praying for the The male

the male deity and the female deity to get together and they're there you know to basically have sex this is why they hump the wall yeah and then you know they what they do is they get they go they have the temple and then these people come to temple and they're there to worship like the one true you know the god of the Torah and the rabbi is by

you know it is using their prayers It's trying to use their prayers and their energy and their intention and steal it and bring it up to their polytheistic sex cult. It's actually really... It's perverse. It's really fucked up. Most people don't know this, but most of the Jews that are going to synagogue that think that they are praying to the God of the Torah

that actually believe in the Judeo-Christian values is like a thing, not ironically, right? What they think that they're doing because they don't read Hebrew, right? Is they're getting their prayers stolen? Pete's being 100% accurate. I mean, it doesn't get talked a lot in our scene.

Maybe that's for the best. Mysticism isn't for everyone. But that's exactly what's happening. Pete is 100% accurate. And I'm just repeating what Israel Shahak, a Israeli Jew, wrote about. wrote about in his books. Well, they're not wrong, though, either.

This stuff has power. Yeah, the Old Testament says, presupposes multiple gods up until a certain point, and then that stops. They come back from... They didn't go away. They come back from one of the captivities, and then all of a sudden, the prophets

stop talking about multiple gods and start talking about just one and the only. So which is true. Yeah, well, look, for the audience who's not familiar with what we're talking about, I want to say two things. The first real quick is you've got to go to the show notes, like I said, because me and Stormy talk about this extensively in another episode that I'll link. But I also want to stress that this actually is very important because very powerful people on the world stage

adhere to this religion, to this sect of Judaism. Haviar... Very powerful forces are like... So yes, they may be crazy cultists, but they're not crazy. Yeah, they know what they're doing. They're not insane. Exactly, exactly.

Because things have power. I mean, if you were crazy, Christian, then you believe in Satan. If you believe in Satan, then you believe in his minions. God has power over heaven and earth. This is true. But who also has power on earth? And if you don't believe in the afterlife and you're not really too concerned about it,

exactly, then who, if you're only concerned, if you don't conceptualize the afterlife, like a Christian does, right, where you're worried about your eternal soul and where you go when you die, if you don't believe in any of that, then to you, right, if your only concern is your mortal life and your time on earth, then to you, Satan is just as good as God is, right? They both do miracles on earth. They both can get me where I need to go. they can both, you know, answer my prayers and make things happen for me here and now. God can do that.

We can also do stuff in heaven. But if we're just talking about who can do stuff here, Satan can do stuff here too. And if all you care about is down here, then he's a hell of a lot easier to please. And that's why atheists are not a threat to these people. They don't care about them. Atheists are a threat to me. no I'm not talking about you I'm talking about your enemies I know I know

them running their mouths right it's like I know I said this to you before Astro what you can say whatever you want you can do the cool atheist bro thing and I can you know rant and rant and rant about how actually the science is more on my side than it is on yours

but if you're spending your time trying to convince people that none of this is real. Right. Magic is not real. Demons are not real. These things don't exist. You're literally going to a group of people that are being shelled daily

and trying to convince them that bombs don't exist. That's what you're doing. And if you think that's productive, then voice your opinion that way. Say, oh, I think it'd be better if we just imagine the bombs didn't exist and then we wouldn't obsess about them so much. Have that argument with me. But this shit's very real.

People that have the amount of power that these people do don't believe in nonsense. They don't waste their time with nonsense. When Lex Wexner says that he has a demon that lives in his head, right, that tells him to do things and those things make him a lot of money or help him. or give him power of other people. All right. And I can go and I can see, you know, Leon Black of Apollo group

talks about a little demon in his head. And it gives him power and tells him what to do. And those things turn out really great for him when he does. I can go, I can rattle off half a dozen more examples. So you may not believe in this shit, but they do. And you may not believe in the shit, but it believes in you. so these people aren't foolish

they're evil it's called like I see it right they are spending seven million dollars to bring a perfectly genetically pure red calf to Israel

it's already there actually Hamas attacked two days after they brought the red heifer and if you look at the the statement, the communique of the eluxa flood, which was what the first operation on October 7th said, one of the reasons that they cited for why we have to do this now

is because they brought the fucking cow here. Because the intention is that they are going to sacrifice that cow. They have 20 some odd guys that have been training for 10 years on how to move the knife in a particular way, to make sure, right, they do the certain cut in the exact particular way, in the exact particular place, they've already built the fucking altar, they're ready to go. And what happens in their minds, we don't know, but what they're trying to do when they sacrifice that cow is bring back their Mosheyek, the Antichrist.

So I may be stupid, Pete may be stupid. all those Palestinians may be stupid, right? And none of this may exist. But the people that seem to have control over the most powerful institutions in the world seems to think that it does exist. And it does matter. And these people don't really just, you know, waste their time on bullshit. So a group of people are intent on bringing about the Antichrist.

You can tell me how you feel about that. You can say, like, oh, I don't think he's real. Okay. that's an opinion, but that's what they're doing. And they're spending tens and tens of millions of dollars to do it, and they're burning through every last bit of political capital and social capital that they have to do it. So they think it's pretty fucking important.

Well. Sorry. Okay. I just don't have anything to say to that. I think that's a good note to end on, unless Pete has a follow up. I can't follow that up. Yeah, it was a great, that was a great episode. For those of you who've listened this long, check the show notes.

I'm going to link me and Stormy's episode on Biden corruption in the Ukraine. Evil is real, people. Evil is real. People can, you know, literally set out to do evil. Evil is not like this bad thing. They're like, oh, I did an evil thing by accident. Right? Evil fucking exists, you thick twat.

Well, the survival of Israel is at stake. They know that if they don't act continually, they won't survive. And you say, oh, Israel is a secular government. Yeah, ostensibly. But the only reason Bibi Netanyahu isn't in a prison cell is because he made a deal with those religious crazies that you think are just silly crazies? Well, at any moment in time, they can break the coalition and bring down his government, and then he goes to jail.

So the only people with the power, right, the only people with leverage in this situation are those religious crazies. So Israel will not be acting in a secular sense right now, because the person in charge is only in charge because the religious crazies. Again, they're just crazy people as in insane and murderous and evil not in the sense that they

can't determine what is real and what is not. They have all the fucking power in Israel. Ben Gavir is a... Anyways, I don't want to get into it. But like all the people here, like Ben Shapiro, he believes with those religious nut cases. Yeah, I know.

I know. So people in the power structured there are the ones with the crazy ideas. So Israel is going to be acting on these ideas, whether you think they're insane or not. These are real motivators. I think Israel Shahak also talks about that. Correct me if I'm wrong. Israel appears to be a secular government, but it is driven by the religious sects. Right.

What he says is he says that even if somebody is not a, is an atheist, doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe that those things are true, what's in the Bible, and especially in the Torah is true, they're still going to, because others look upon that as authoritative, they're going to use that, they're going to use that as an excuse to destroy their enemies, kill the Philistines, yada, yada, straight down the line. And the midwit, and not even the midwit, the idiot reaction to that is, well, you just have to destroy Christianity because, you know, the Bible isn't,

the only way you do that is you have to get rid of the Bible. You have to destroy Christianity. Well, Christianity. People that actually say that. Yeah, there are people who actually say that. There are people with, I can think of one person with a huge following who has people who, you know, they'll come and they'll be like, oh, did you know that the Romans? Did you know that the Romans were so cucked by the Jews that they passed laws that you couldn't like assault a Jew? I'm like, could you assault anybody?

I mean, if you have a civilization, do you want people just randomly going up and killing people and hurting people? I mean, these are laws. Yeah, but let's be clear, the Jews do demand special treatment all the time. And they did. And you can see it in Russia, I mean, you know. Yeah, exactly. Everything in Russia and everything. Sure.

But that doesn't mean, I mean, these people believe that, like, the Christianity is a, is a basically a conspiracy. I ultimately. agree with Pete, though, that Rome, it's ridiculous to say that they were cucked by the Jews of the Christians. Yeah, I mean, but here's what they're saying.

They're basically saying that Christianity is this conspiracy theory to allow Jews to keep ruling forever, because the Christians aren't going to be able, aren't going to do anything about it. Oh, they've never done anything about it? Why are they crying?

Where did those 107 countries come from? Well, we need to have a whole episode on this because it's fucking idiotic to say that Christianity is a Jewish sciop. And it took me a long time to really acknowledge the fact that people actually do. Yeah, I know. There are people who actually try to say that this was a 2,000 year-long plan that got set out back there. And it's just, I didn't even want to leave it for a long time. Then why do they hate it so much? Then why do they hate it?

Yeah, no, it's bullshit. I don't agree with it. you're either globalist or you're not. There's no in between. There's, you're either global, you're either for globalism or you're not for globalism. Yeah. If you're trying to read. Because the ones that don't want Zionism didn't say they don't want to be in power.

All right. I like it. Look, we're going to reconvene for the listener. We're going to reconvene in two weeks. And we'll have a topic. But between then and now, we will all be putting out a lot of content. So not to be unceremonious, guys, but I still need to edit this to put it out tomorrow so I have to cut it off here.

I appreciate you both coming in. Those of you who are still with us go to the show notes because the last hour of conversation me and Stormies have talked about extensively and I'll link that and Pete and Thomas did the spiritual stuff on the thing you and I did the

No, no, but... Like an organized crime racket. No, that's, we need to talk about spiritual stuff on a different episode. We talked about how there are very powerful people in this world. Some of whom are orchestrating and provoked the Ukraine war who believed this. And others who were the paymasters of Jeffrey Epstein, who really believe all this stuff. So if you want to learn more of that, go to that episode.

All this stuff Thomas and us were talking about Syria. Pete and him have a three-part episode, which is indispensable learning. I listening. It's literally probably the most excellent commentary I've heard. It's not optional.