The Pete Quiñones Show - The JQ in Historical Context w/ Thomas777 - Complete

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

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Hey, everyone. Looks like I got a guest with me today. What's up, Thomas? Hey, how are you, man? Doing good. Doing good. Just logged on and waiting for everybody to catch up here. How's your Sunday going on?

It's going fine. I realize I'm going to kind of a bomb on Sunday. I kind of go into a recourse, you know, so don't take it to course. That's fine. No problem. Are we watching a movie tonight? I'll see what I feel, depending on how long as goes. How's that?

I don't mean to be flaky, but I'm... Okay, yeah, no problem. My energy level's going to vary, but we'll go as long as you want on the stream. Sure. Okay, cool. So I wanted to have you on today to... This whole occupation regime that we've been suffering. there's a lot of people who once they discover, you know, things like the JQ and things like that,

they believe that everyone, that the world is basically fallen to it and that it controls everyone. And to the point where they don't think that an independent, like country a country could actually have a jewish population and and organized jewish population and not be controlled by them so i guess you know first this came up this just a whole russia thing yesterday because apparently putin is uh putin has been called habodnik How, without even addressing the Russian thing, because I think it's stupid, the, the idea that a country cannot have an organized Jewish population and still be a country that isn't run by them, how does that, in your head, how does that work? Well, the problem is that lay people, I don't want to get terminology. but I can't think of a better way to characterize it.

They don't understand politics and they don't understand historical processes and they don't understand the anthropological aspects of these things. It's like these guys who, you know, and I don't be too hard on Alex Jones because I think in some ways he does good things, and I'd rather, I've got no wonder to convincing normies of anything,

but I'd rather people consume that kind of stuff than, say, like, Fox News. but even like a bunch of Alex Jones fanboys they'll claim stuff like the Cold War with some sort of a ledger of Maine I mean that that's just not how human society at scale works and that's not how humans

interface with technology you know you don't you don't kill off hundreds of thousands of people like pretending to wage proxy wars against the Soviet Union and you don't you don't devise weapons platforms that cost billions and billions of dollars at the end of the day, that deploy to

orbital space and can wipe out entire cities so that you can pretend that you're fighting some sort of ideological conflict to fool people. I mean, if you think that, you're a complete idiot. But, I mean, more people think that way than you might suspect because the variables are too complex or they're too nuanced or there's an intuition required to kind of perceive these things that's just beyond them so their view is that the world's organized like their workplace or something where interseen rivalries don't compromise the core mission of the firm or something and ordinary people are just subject to these designs of more powerful people

it's like a symbol as character the way things really are and I think what people think about Zionism their idea such that they can perceive it at all is that Jews are bad guys

or they're like rich guys who are some sort of Machiavellian global elite who just control everything like some sort of like some sort of a majority shareholder population and a big company, you know, and like I said, it's a case of people not understanding of human populations interact and how conceptual horizons of respective populations

collide and how even people who don't necessarily have personal enmity towards one another or some sort of horrible cultural clash and how they live among each. other sometimes the existence of one has a deleterious effect on the way of life of the their before dominant culture and that leaves too violence I mean honestly there's that aspect in post-soviet Russia between Slavs and Jews I don't think most Slavs hate Jews or vice versa I think they look down on each other okay but they don't look at each other the way, you know, like white folks and blacks did during like the worst days to like the 60s and early 90s. And they don't look at each other the way like Palestinians and Israelis

knew. You know, people think that like politics has to do with like people you personally don't like. Like that has nothing to do with it either. You know, but there's the same people too. Think that like the grand question is like there's too many Mexicans and I don't want to live by black people. Like neither one of which is a place. political problem there's political implications that both of those things but those are social problems you know if this is exactly why you're an idiot if you pretend that like people voting somehow dictates the course of actual events and the disposition of elites like even if there was some ethical

characteristic to mass enfranchisement which there isn't but you know there was these people can't understand the subject matter. So it would be like, it'd be like consulting people who can't do math on how to like design and build a bridge that will be able to bear a load or something. You know, it's that kind of stuff. And people particularly people born after the Cold War.

I'm not trashing young people at all. I don't do that. And I think young people at scale, I actually have a lot of insights. Older people don't. But I think people, unless they have been, like, insinuated into the culture or they're kind of part of the minority, it's a growing minority, but it's still a minority of people who, like, travel a lot and, like, spend time in the old East block, they don't understand the Russians. Like, they just don't. But they think, like, Russia is, like, the EU, but they're just kind of different.

Or they got this idea that Russians are these kinds of malicious bad guys, but they don't understand that there's a really tragic. and really dysfunctional relationship between Jews and the majority there. You know, like Solanese, they wrote an entire book on that. This characterized the Soviet Union for 70 years. They literally went to war with Israel. You know, a catalyzing moment, one of the major plane hijackings, and one of the few were a successful direct action team, was able to liberate the aircraft without killing all the hostages.

It was an early success at GSG9. They were like the Bundesphere, like, counterterrorism unit. It was not surprising that the crowds did this well, okay? Flight, what Lufthansa is a Flight 181. It was hijacked by the popular front floration of Palestine, General Command. They're the same guys who blew up the discotheque in West Berlin. But interestingly, and people don't know this, it was like three men and a woman

or the hijack team and that was the first time anybody ever wore like a shade of a vestige on their shirt like the PFLP did that because they were saying that like you know Palestine's the front line of the struggle against you know capitalism

you know and like the Jews are these like oppressor standard bears of you know America you know and incidentally that's why guys like Korshtamah and other like national socialist partisans you know were involved with like the roth army for action and things but uh it was understood during the cold war like the mortal enemies of

israel are the east block okay i mean this one without saying everybody understood that the you know basically like the main enemy of jury and political terms is is russia okay it was went without saying you know and that they didn't saw go away after the cold war and the Ukraine war I the enemies of the Russian Federation

were shot me at the bit to do that anyway like NATO was looking for another make work deployment but it was mainly returning the serve because the Russian Federation deployed to Syria and routed the Israelis

You know, Russia is allied with Hezbollah. They were allied with Assad. They sold out Assad because the Russians do. But I don't really understand how unless you're a complete idiot, like you couldn't notice that. You know, and so to you, like Putin was just kidding when the first Russian Federation deployed, you know, basically to provide combined arms for Hezbollah

and the Syrian Arab army against the IEF. their allies. And then this guy who's like randomly, this Jewish Zionist somehow gets installed in Ukraine and then suddenly there's like this massive escalation that's just a coincidence. But like Putin actually loves Israel and their

friends. I mean I that's so stupid, I'm not going to entertain it. I mean, I don't argue with people like that but I don't argue with people who tell me that like the moon landing was fake or that like 9-11 was fake. I mean you're I mean, you're, you're mentally retarded if you think that way.

But, yeah, and that's why, well, it's the same reason people, I mean, I don't like care what my ops say, because, like, generally I don't respect them. Like, the only ops I respect it in my life, like, we're all dead by now. Like, the ones that exist now, like, just don't cut it. But, like, these internet, I get, like, hate shit all the time. And, like, generally, I don't read it, but occasionally. they do and like uh i think i i don't know exactly what they were talking about and i'm not trying to personalize this but like it's it's illustrated like uh this like r t chick i don't

want to hide parks she's like this jewish broad i mean she's cool she's a friend of mine you know like sometimes we go for drinks or something and um you know uh she knows some of the same people i do university chicago but you know she like posts up some selfies with me which is fine you know i i like it when girls want to take photos of me you and people are like, you're a phony because you, like, don't hate Jews. I'm like, well, why would I hate Jews? I'm starting like hating people. Like, what does that even mean?

You know, like, I walk around. I'm, like, attack mode, and I'm like, this person's my enemy in political terms. I'm going to go egg their house or, like, murder them. I mean, what's it, well, it also, it by, it's you becoming them. I mean, they have a genuine hatred. of people who they consider to be their enemies.

Oh, yeah. And it's a bad look. And it's also insane. I mean, for the record, there's chicks like anti-Zionists. That's one things we have in common. You know, but like it's, I mean, obviously, okay?

Otherwise, why would she associate with me? But the point is like, um, yeah, it's that you feel like a rational person. I mean, sitting around hating people is unmanly anyway. That's not,

that's not what rational men do. It's un-errian. It's uncrean. some Christian, but it's also not what politics are about. You know, I mean, God forbid, uh, God forbid, uh, if some sort of early 90s or like 1968 situation jumped off here.

And like black folks were gun for me for the color of my skin. I would not hesitate to like lock and low and throw shots at them to defend myself. That doesn't mean like I hate the black guys I know. Like, again, like why, why was the one thing they have to do with the other? You know, does that mean? If your country goes to war, you're only going to answer the call. If, like, you personally hate the people down range of your field of fire.

That's only like little girls think about stuff. Yeah. It also takes away from the historic respect of one's enemy. That too, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's not personal. I mean, like, it, I mean, it's, um, for better or worse um the natural state of the of this world is conflict conflict's endemic i mean

like i'm always saying i mean general warfare at scale is rare but conflict is endemic and i mean that's it's literally authored into every aspect of sociological existence and um it wouldn't make any sense to be upset about that i mean the kinds of people who can't accept reality are these kinds of ridiculous you know uh progressive types who thankfully are mostly going to die off with the elder generation but they're the only people who think it's incorrect that the world is this way and we've got to social engineer that away you know you're you claim to be right wing but your whole kink is like I hate X, Y, and Z people, and

that's what informs my politics. Because, like, I just hate people. Like, that's, you know, like I said, that's not the way it's not the way that's unmanly. And aside from the fact, it's got nothing to do with existential realities. Well, here's a question.

And I'll, um, as somebody who may be Catholic, but also has a pretty good education in Calvinist theology. So hate is always irrational. God made a mistake by providing that particular emotion. God provided everything, and some things are a sin.

Yeah, that's like saying that, like, God approves of rape because, like, men, rape women at war. You know, like, there's not, you don't understand Christianity if that's what you think about it. Yeah. If there's no sin, there'd be, like, no point to human life, and there'd also be no piety, and there'd be no salvation. Yeah. So one of the things I wanted to say about Russia was, I have a friend, he's been on the show a couple of times, Ferris Modad. He's from Lebanon originally. He lives in England now. And something he said about Putin was Putin can accept the fact that there are people in his country that are talking about communism. people can accept the Putin can accept the fact that there are people in his country even talking about fascism

but Putin cannot accept that there is anyone promoting liberalism in his country he goes when when Putin when people start to promote liberalism which is probably the most de-rassinating and chaos-inducing system

he has to put that person down he has yeah well it's also people don't understand they're like the Russians are anti-Nazi so they must like Zionism or like liberals it's like do you realize these people lost

one in six of their population in four years so 25 million of them went down fighting the German Reich are they supposed to be like yeah we we love Nazism and so you're fucking retarded I mean like why why the actual

fuck would the Russians like national socialism or think they're like that's cool like that's their it makes perfect sense the ivan's to hold out the german rike as their like ultimate like telluric evil that makes perfect sense like what else would they how else would they conceptualize it you know but it's not it's not the it's not the russians who build holocaust museums it's not the russians who when the Russians conquered the eastern occupation zone, they encouraged the National Vox Army to preserve the traditions of the Vermont.

They said, we're not, we're not going to build a memorial of Jewry. We lost 20 million people fighting the fascists. We're the victims of fascism. You know, they went to war with Israel. You know, you can't pull that card that, you know, stupid on purpose card that, because the Russians don't

don't like the German Reich and they don't appreciate it when these like confused white N-words in Ukraine like pretend that they're Nazis by like fighting for greater Judea you know the fact that the Russians don't appreciate that doesn't like make them a bunch of like anti-fascist liberals

but again I mean some people are too stupid to be alive and the people propose those things constitute that class. So I think people see that Putin would go out of his way to protect the Jewish population in his country, which is also something that Assad did, which is also something that Iran does right now. So I guess if you do that to some people, that means that you have to, you're bowing down to them. They somehow control you. It just doesn't make, it doesn't make any sense.

It only makes sense if you've bought into these people can control or are in control of everything. Well, it's like I said, that's why most, most normies, like, shouldn't try and understand these things because apparently they're not capable. I also think that most people, like for better or worse. worse. I kind of a weird upbringing because again, you know, like my mom was a rich kid from L.A. My dad was like this dirt poor Oki who ended up becoming very successful. But I'm kind of like as a redneckish person who grew up in Chicago. And specifically, I grew up in like a very Jewish hood. Okay. I was like around these people my whole life. I'm like still around them. Like that doesn't mean I have like any grand insight, but when there's guys from like

the middle of nowhere or from like Mall of America, geography and nowhere places. They developed this kind of like weird idea of like Jews that is like no basis in reality. You know this goes for like the megachurch retards who think Jews are like

these like Vikings super erians who like love democracy or whatever. And it goes to these guys who think that they're like these like super being bad guys who control everything. Like you don't understand them as a people. I think that I do. I think I frankly that's part of it you know yeah yeah as I was talking to dr.

Johnson the other day Matthew Raphael Johnson and him just like I mean he that part of Jersey he grew up in was Jewish and Italian same deal yeah yeah and he and he says he says this he goes when I'm talking about jury I'm not talking about my dentist I'm not talking about an organ I'm talking about an organization a and inclination a um you know a he goes something that something that can't just be laid off on one person it it's something you know and you know we're covering you know social he wrote the wrote the book on this and gave us a whole history of one country and how they dealt with it and we're covering this and even even the solzhenyson shows that early in the

book in the Stettel system that it was 5% of the population of that system that had any power, any wealth, anything. And they were just as apt to destroy or oppress their own people as they were anyone else. I mean, people also don't understand, I mean, they don't understand, I mean, they don't understand the political. I mean, you're talking about impersonal forces of a historical nature, at literally global scale you know

it's just it'd be like it'd be like saying um it'd be like judging a variable in economics or like a

or like a scale of economic actor by how this guy you know spends his money and invests like it's not it's not we're talking about you know and it's maybe but it's also the reason why it fails when these like american renaissance types act like Asians or some super race because they don't commit crimes it's like you know your enemy in political terms is your enemy because him asserting his own

politics constitutes a repudiation of your way of life like maybe this population are a bunch of great guys and they're stately or maybe they're like reprobate savages and criminals it doesn't matter because that's not how we judge politics i don't want to be ruled by the chinese because they don't go out and steal cars you know that and if you think about it that way again you're you're you're a bourgeois simpleton you know well i mean it's odd guys or maybe maybe or maybe they're terrible people generally. It doesn't matter because Jewish politics constitutes a recudiation of my way of life. Correct.

Whether they're the kind of guys that don't want to have over for cocktails or to talk about women in the NFL or whether they're like guys who are like scumbags and I can't stand the sight of, that's totally irrelevant. So you can look at things like this. I love reading the Jerusalem Post because they basically will tell you, it's almost like it's like is that old joke about you see a headline or you read something in a jewish periodical it's like okay is this the daily forward or the daily stormer i can't tell yeah yeah yeah so they had this article and um shout out to the guys on the third rail podcast

for pointing this out it's from two weeks ago it says if new york falls the country follows is the future of american jury at risk and they're they're talking to this rabbi Dr. Hank Scheimkoff. And this is what he says, okay? He says, this is the way they describe him. Scheimkoff has worked on over 700 political campaigns in 14 countries, in four continents, and in 44 U.S. states. Some names among his previous clientele, Bill Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, Mexican President,

Lionel Fernandez. People read that. And it's obvious that there is organized jewelry. If this guy is on four continents promoting elections, I guarantee you, he's not promoting elections that are not in his best interest or whoever's finding. He's in a piece that says this guy they're talking about, he's running from here in New York, you sound like pussy liberal. You know, if you find this guy scary, you're either a demented old woman

or you're some crazy Zionist who like when the wind blows you claim you're about to be programmed. So I mean like the fact is these people are slipping because I'm holding up for a member when they didn't talk that way. There was actually like something slick

about their propaganda. You know like in 1985 if you'd read the J-Post it'd be like you know, for example they'd be saying like you know the Soviet Union brutalizes you know

a non-conformist of where they go. look at what they're doing in Afghanistan. You know, Soviet Jewry loves freedom and wants to live like Americans and he's Stalinist oppressors are abusing them. Now, I mean, obviously a narrative like that is laden with propaganda too, but it's, like,

actually credible in a certain way. Like, claiming some, like, claiming some cornball, like, Berkeley-type guy who claims to be Muslim, but, like, goes to, like, his gay friends, his weddings and shit. He's like, she's going to program us.

It's like, you look like a fucking idiot. You know, I mean, it's like, and then, yeah, like, and then it'll be like, this guy, like, rabbi, like, shiki, like, fuck, Bach. It's like, he owns, you know, like, a, uh, he owns, like, a gay pornography label and, like, he's involved in human trafficking. And, you know, he's on the staff of, like, freedom loving Vladimir Zelensky and, like, this Italian mafia boss. And, like, he was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein. And then, like, when people, like, on the internet, like, start dropping comments, like, you know this guy sounds like a super villain or something you know they they like banish all comments and stuff it's like man like you guys you guys are like something out of austin powers

or something man it's like what happened to you did you all like lobotomize yourselves or something like i mean that's kind of a silly rant but and you can and you can tell how bad off they have it where they still have to go to the russia evil well and then they go Then they go to, like, Iran and Syria and Assad, Syria and places like that, which anyone who, like, can do a search on Google can find out that there are huge Jewish communities there have been for thousands, you know, for a thousand years, and they're protected by the government. And here's another thing.

If you say that, there are people, you know, who, like, just found out about the JQ a month ago, who will be like, well, why are they protecting Jews? Why would Vladimir Putin care about Russian Jews being in danger anywhere? He should want to kill them all, right? Yeah, because it's like retardo politics. It's like retardo non-politics. What's also, too, I mean, the problem with Zionism, I mean, and I'm not going to sit here and, I mean, obviously, I don't think Israel was ever like anything but a totally dysfunctional political system. But it did actually use to be a multi-party system, like before Rabin was.

assassinated and uh you know they the policy in terms of a direct administration of conquered territories and obviously the founding action of israel was a mass ethnic cleansing operation you can't like erase that but moving forward you can't have a leekud one-party state that's like this openly racial state that uh regularly assaults into um this kind of mass concentration camp that is Gaza they're quite literally thin the ranks that people have identified as their racial enemies

you can't do that then turn around and talk about how like well we're an especially victimized population because racists don't like us like that just doesn't work you know even a simple tent and that's one of the reasons why like world opinion is totally shifted I mean part of it's the Cold War ending

and the whole paradigm ending but world opinion doesn't matter whether that's right or not it isn't important you know you can't um you can't make yourself a pariah and then appeal to like nuremberg morality to say no i'm not a pariah i'm a victim that doesn't work that's what i'm always saying it's like late soviet in nature you know both the propaganda from the department of state as well as out of um telavid it's like these people don't understand there's got to be context, you know, otherwise it doesn't serve a purpose. Otherwise, it's your, it's self-defeating. It's worse than neutral. It's self-defeating. Yeah, it's, it really is with how people can access so much information and then they can talk in public now through social media and different

platforms. They can start a podcast and everything. It really just goes to show you how people don't understand politics. Like, if you were to say, you know, if you were to tell people, ask people the question, okay, so basically the Vietnam War was a proxy war with world communism and the United States. And, okay, so, well, why was the United States, you know, why was your grain trade between the United States and the Soviet Union during the Cold War? They can't, they can't wrap their head around that. You can't wrap your head around how you can have your, you can trade.

with like your biggest enemy on the planet and that well they don't understand they don't understand globalism but I realize that too even people who otherwise I think I said really realizing this you know like I rejoined the world and stuff

and you know October 2020 before that you know it had been a few years already since I got my life together and stuff but like when I was on probation and stuff I was still writing but I was basically just like going to it Washington Library and Winston Library and like writing stuff and doing my own research and there was like two or three guys who I'd run into like around the city who I'd talk to about these things but I didn't really realize the depths of people's ignorance I remember like right when I got online again I was trying to explain to this guy kind of my interpretation of the Great Depression and uh

I realized he was talking about national states, which is something you probably picked him in college. He's like talking about the world, like it was the year 1930. I'm like that there aren't no more states. You know, there's something nominally called the United States of America where like powers concentrated. Periodically is crackdowns on like the free flow of persons and commerce across the border is what you're seeing now. But this idea that there's like these discrete, self-contained loci of power. that are essentially insular from one another. It's like that, that honestly hasn't existed since 1918.

This is a fiction. You know, it's a fiction. And it's, I'm not even saying it's like led your meaning by horrible people. Like, people invoke these concepts more or less to kind of conceptualize the world because otherwise we're talking an abstraction. And there's not like a common conceptual vocabulary. I mean, like, yeah, there's a place called France. there's a place called England, there's a place called Japan, but those places have been called

that for thousands of years, you know, this idea of like Westphalian-style states, that's not some permanent thing. And essentially the 300 years subsequent were like moves towards, modality of globalism, which was the superpower era, which is why World War II happened. The Cold War was the grand struggle between two globalisms. Now there is one globalism. Like, where are these other forms of government? Don't say like North Korea, which is some weird garrison state, because unfortunately for them, they border Russia and China. And don't talk about some like random kingdom of like 150,000 people. I'm talking about like real, at-scale political organization there's only one form of government that's one is the department of states illiterate

there's not democracy and not democracy what's the not democracy is there is there a is there an eastern block i i thought it went away i seem to remember watching the brilliant wall fall when i was a kid what's the not democracy but i mean this cuts to the whole the illiteracy i mean i mean israel is a particularly extreme case because they're a very, they're this weird outlier, like in terms their political values and their security situation, within their rationality of those values. But there's not, there's not like dozens of forms of government. You know, there's only one. It doesn't make sense to talk otherwise.

But the State Department, Israel, this entire constellation of the dominant globalist faction, they speak as if it's 1980 because they're illiterate and they don't know how to characterize the world anymore. I mean, part of that is problematic because it pokes holes in their narrative, but even aside from that, there's like a monumental

illiteracy in conceptual terms there. So Dr. Johnson and I are reading 200 years together. We're 61 episodes in on that. Oh, wow. That's a lot. We're not even halfway done. We're just getting the halfway point of You don't get forgotten that.

Yeah, it's, you know, no problem. And, you know, like, Carl, Carl, Carl Dahl and I just did an episode on, Yeah, he's my front. Yeah, he's a good guy. And we just did an episode on Kudriano and the Iron Guard and, you know, how A.C. Cusa was such a inspiration on them because of his talk of how jewelry was taking over Romania. What is the benefit? Like, what do you see? as the benefit of talking about that now talking about jury historically how zog now what's the

benefit of doing i mean and i mean i could take arrows on this one from you if you want to point is there what is the benefit of me doing all of this and talking about all of this because you're not going to be able to nobody's going to be able to make sense of the current um political and sociological paradox unless they understand these things and unless you understand the Second World War and the variables that led to it you're not going to understand the 20th century and if you understand the 20th century you don't understand today and everything that happens today is derivative that precedent and particularly the these actors uh in the Islamic world the uh the uh The Russian Federation, Israel, you know, the Jews as a people, like globally, their global diaspora, the disposition of America, which is not, like, the legacy government of George Washington or something.

It's the legacy government of the New Deal regime. That's the only way to conceptualize these things. And plus, too, like, you know, you know, Schumpeter, I mean, Schumpeter was actually, like, a pure political economist in a lot of ways. I don't think we can talk about, like, a pure economics and the way we can talk about, like, neoliberal economics. We're talking about Schumpeter. But, you know how we talk about conditri waves? Like in economics, okay? Very much of my portraying the pronunciation.

But basically, in his book business cycles, like, capitalism is also under democracy. It's kind of his most accessible book, and that was his book that sold the best. It's most important, what was business cycles, which, one of the other things, is, like, a huge repudiation to Keynes, but it's very, very dense. It's two volumes. It's very difficult. But it's, in my opinion, it's a seminal statement on political economy. It'll, like, last, like, 500 years probably. Okay? But his whole point was, look, you can't, aside somebody else that's wrong with Keynes, that entire paradigm, you can't look at, like, a 30-year increment of, of macroeconomic activity and scaled actors therein. You gotta look at this over, at minimum, probably 250 years, honestly,

probably more like 300 years. If you wanna get a conceptual picture of economic development at scale and what business cycles truly represent, you gotta look at politics the same way. If I take like the last 30 years, for example, I say, I'm gonna study from 1995 to, you know, August 10th, 2025, that doesn't tell me anything.

You know, I mean, so, okay, I can break down, I can break down, like, orders of battle and casualties and geostrategic nuances of, like, the Gulf War, you know, and then, um, person just like bin Laden and then how they were able to corral, you know, um, guys with combat experience as, like, you know, direct action elements and terrorist activity, and I can talk about, like, the response to 9-11, but in and of itself, that's meaningless. Like, that's like, uh, it'd be like, it'd be like if accident investigators, like, these days, I know this, so I'm on foot a lot.

I'm on footer on CTA. And like, forgive this, it seems like an old person tangent. But I, I'm walking the other day when I, I took the bus back from the city, and I disembarked, like, two rounds from my house. and there was like this big accident at this intersection by 94 and there was like this lady police

and she was like doing something with her phone with this weird app and I'm like excuse me man I'm like what are you doing you know and she's like oh well you know this is like what we use to like try and you know basically you know

try and like restructure like accidents and things and I'm sure there's just like a simple app to help with the report and like okay thank you it's interesting so when i got home like i said a research and like how they like how this guy evidence has admitted in court and stuff and the guys who actually do like the insurance adjuster types they use them bring into that app but they do all this like modeling okay to try

and see if like the physics what they think happened like could it happen okay all right trying to just take like a 20 or 30 year increment of history they'd be like if these accident guys came on an accident and said no no no we're not going to model anything that happened before i only care about what happened at the moment of impact that's how we're going to solve this accident that wouldn't tell you anything they'd like tell you how the body's ragged old that tell you about how like a teslo when it collides with like a jeep Cherokee it tell you like how the conventions come apart or like how the airbag deploys it would tell you nothing about the causal variables at accident do you see what i mean that jumped out of me because of the

kind of research i do i guess that was like the connection i made when this lady told me that and when i got home and started like google fooling this shit but that's why you got to look at it so that's why it's important let's do the iron guard specifically is a weird not weird in negative terms it's it's it's unusual phenomenon that's why so much it's written about it in romania you don't think of romania has this country that has uh this monumental impact on on culture generally because it's it's it's it's it's a key other than all stirring the troubles it's really the only and I realized this the sectarian um the sympathies were very different in each case but it's only the only case of like late modern Christian

populations developing like a holy warrior element okay and uh that's highly significant and there's a parallel there between that and the islamic awakening um and that makes it relevant to today in a way that not in ethical terms but in formal and structural terms you know things like things like these most fascist parties and like the national socialist movement aren't you know there's like a national it's relevant to study the german rike but you know again like that dialectically it was so bound up with like the labor movement and direct

antithetical resistance of communism and stuff you know again like the ethical foundation of it's perennial but the structure of it is kind of historically contingent the Iron Guard is an outlier and it I mean all

political modes of warfare and mobilization therein are historically contingent But that has a more, that has a more timeless significance, you know, even though that's temporally bound and everything else, too, that's why those things are significant. I think one of the interesting things that, uh, that Carl Dahl, that Carl said about the Iron Guard was that they were, they were early. They're doing what they were doing what we're doing now.

They were going around the country, building social capital with people. They were going around the country building parallel institutions. They were doing things that we should be doing now, which a lot of the same people who can't get their head out of their ass, who should be sympathetic to the things that we talk about, but they can't get their head out of their ass because they think that this is all going to be solved on the national level. Well, yeah, because they don't get it because they're still thinking in terms of they're

imprisoned by 20th century thinking you know yeah well that's why that was the whole point of um that I mean that's another thing is that

uh these Romanian guys they weren't they weren't reactionaries you know but they also weren't these like secular arch futurists you know they uh and that but that's why

that's why I met Marcia Eliotti who really was kind of their uh like a lot of uh a lot of ad vishem types who kind of wanted to murk him exaggerated his uh his role in direct action type of stuff in the iron guard but murci aliyadi he really was you know uh like a philosopher of the romanian dissident right and that's why he was an important theologian that's also why he had that's why he was conceptually sophisticated on anthropology and theology and stuff like that you know and he because he had a very progressive view of politics and direct action they're not not progressive in values terms

I mean progressive in like formal terms and you know that's remarkable but a lot of uh I mean Romania is a great country and a great people I'm not saying bad things about them but Romania traditionally is you know someone underdeveloped you know and there's and there's structural difficulties there, but that's those the kinds of situations where often you get very sophisticated revolutionaries emerge it from. You know, probably because those people have a difficult life and, you know, the kind of true intelligency among them, you know, they spent a lot of time thinking about things, especially in comparative terms, you know, because they, because this stuff directly impacts your life. You know, if you're a comparatively

comfortable guy, you know, in the United States, or even to this day, like, in a place, like, a lot of the UK is messed up, but like in London or something, like generally, you're not really thinking about, nor do you care about, you know, what life is like for people where, you know, things like, you know, the things like, you know, religiosity is, like a day-to-day significance and kind of immediate conceptual terms, you know. I mean, I think about that stuff, but I, I, I mean, that's not like smart than anybody, but I have like kind of a weird life. And there have been times where in part, like, due to my own doing, I was, like, really poor. Like, I was having difficulty surviving and stuff. And, like, you know, generally, like, that's not, like, an entirely bad experience. Like, I mean, I don't, at my age and now, I prefer not to go through that again. but uh you know it you get you it promotes like you know um meaningful reflection on stuff you know um and uh you compare like different modes of life you know and so i think that's

part of it but also elia rania is an interesting i mean Romania's a they're literally like a Latin culture I mean it was like a Roman lost battalion who basically, uh, bred with, you know, docchians. Um, and stuff you have, like, Romanians. And like they, the language they speak is closest to Latin, the moving languages. But they're like a bit, but they're like, they belong to Byzantium. You know, they're like very Orthodox. So they straddle this like weird kind of civilizational diet. And, uh, I think that's part of it. Um, you know, that tends to, prompt reflections on things of

you know like an ontological nature but I don't know but there's a there's a tenor of mysticism in Romanian religiosity too that was able to

remain alive even as the ontological shock of modernity kind of strip that kind of thing away that's also why I mean, that's why Ben Laden gravitated to Afghanistan. Like, people make jokes, people make jokes and stuff.

I mean, it's fine. I'm not saying people shouldn't joke about ethnic stuff, but you know, bin Laden, his first destination was Sudan. You know, he funded a bunch of infrastructure projects there because he thought that he was going to replace like a pure Islam but thrive. And people superficially, the way they come

at that, the way they come at that is oh, well, he's talking about primitive conditions or, you know, places where, you know, like a local imam, so was a lot of clout. No, that's not what he was talking about. He was talking about like an intuitive way of life where this kind of awareness of pre-rational things was like a part of the living faith. And he came to the conclusion that Sudan was not that place. You know, people like Sudanese are a bunch of like bombs. You ride around in Toyotas with like clashing across

and there's something to be something to that. But in Afghanistan, I mean, Afghanistan is probably more primitive than Sudan but he's like among these pastunes you know there's like a like true islam can thrive they're like receptive to it and you know they it's you know and i them being like a warrior race i'm sure it's something to do with it but you know um i'm not suggesting something like romanians are like you know that their conditions are as are as primitive as that of pastions but I'm just saying a complimentary thing of both populations. You know,

so that's something to consider, you know, but this is one of the reasons why, like, religiosity and the praxis of it is mysterious, you know? So there are a lot of people who have this, this romantic, if you want to call it, romantic notion of that the way that, you know, the United States is going to be,

de-zogged or you know the globalism will be kicked from it is the country is going to become 110 it's going to be oh they mean kicked out of 109 countries and the United States is going to be the 110th country that it kicked out of

I have a tendency to believe that that's not going to happen so I guess the question the question is is how is Zog how is this occupation defeated ultimately because

historical processes are taking it down and you know the only strength of it is the strength of it is the ability to manipulate sociological factors and to enforce social engineering well that apparatus is going away you know and um ironically as true globalism sets in economically, I mean, the multilateral system is dead, but that's a different thing. Like, what matters, I mean, don't get me wrong, like, that's the one thing I like that the administration is doing is they're, you know, they've realized a workable return to bilateral trade arrangements, which is essential, because we're running massive deficits, that, that's catastrophic. Okay. But the issue, the issue, the issue,

was imports and exports as regards globalism it's uh it's the velocity and mobility of money and that's not going away that's here to stay it's becoming more integrated okay so anywhere on this planet i can do business and access money and so can any other man okay unless he's like in a penitentiary or something obviously but concomitant with that political globalism is becoming decentralized because there's no other choice so free association is returning by necessity but also because it's not the political will to try and break it up you know and as there's a the court of global opinion truly becomes just positive people won't

tolerate these imperatives anymore it's already happening the entire world despises israel you know this idea that uh you know like i said before too like you know even even policing it 20 sentence is coming to an end so it's like okay like moving forward over the next two three centuries i mean it's already happening in earnest but i'm saying like this gets more fully realized so here's a community that's like 90% white is like a community like hardy it's like 99% like black folks you know here's like a community you know like like Polson is now where it's basically like Spanish okay what what's gonna happen is like the National Gargman with salt and say we demand you stop living this way or

what you're gonna shoot us all try it how's that gonna work for you I was gonna work when like your live streaming guys like opening up on like regular guys and their wives and kids for like not having enough black people live there or in the case of black folks like not being integrated enough that's done that's unthinkable that's how i think what a lot of i think what a lot of people will argue is is that um whether you take the kevin mcdonald route about evolution you know how how jews have evolved through evolutionary processes to be so insular Or you take the E. Michael Jones where, you know, they denied Logos and at the cross, you know, they've been since then. I have a tendency to take a mixture of both.

I believe both have validity to it. That as long as they're there, as long as they're amongst you, they're going to be seeking to subvert. So how can you live with them? Because that's not because people don't understand. The reason why does reach such such intent? Hannah Arendt, who was Heidegger's acolyte, her book, The Origin of Totalitarianism, is a really good book.

You know the title's a little weird? She basically breaks down exactly like what Jewish power is. And, you know, before the end of the 19th century, Jews had no political power. They had economic power.

That's not like a small thing. but they had no political clout that was laughable suddenly in the 20th century they did and gee look what happened isn't that interesting you know it's also too like i'm not i'm not saying that people in the pale settlement or that uh you know the the jewish minority in england uh and you know 1280 like was doing good things to the country or that uh you know the jewish minority in england uh and you know 1280 like was doing good things to the country or was benign but the reason why people like edward kicked them out was because he didn't want to pay him back it's not because he's like i'm a white man and the hell with these jews who aren't white and they're commies it was okay you guys like fund of my war against the french but you know i don't like the fact that you're shylocking me on these on interest and i can't pay right now anyway i'm the king what are you going to do oh you don't like it get out those few rights you had they're gone that's what it was it wasn't like he was he was

was big and cromwell was like a liberal who liked Jews like that you can't like extrapolate current conditions back then you know and uh with the rubber met the road

yeah you had especially like I mean Poland Ukraine which were like the same territory for a long time that was basically like a goy of slave plantation you know the most um the you know the most enslaved

populations were like North African's Arabs and Slavs. You know? And so, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that's, like, a minor thing. But people have this idea that, like, the political paradigms of, like, the 1930s existed in, like, the 1130s, and, like, that's why Jews were disliked. Like, that makes no sense. You know, and like I said, okay, move forward, like, 200 years where there's, like, not really

United States of America, then kind of like in name only, law enforcement and military power is like almost exclusively private. You know, if you or it's like self-help oriented. You know, there's no more

public school. There's a, the bully pulpit of media as it's the 20th century is gone forever. There's no possibility of something like a cold war happening again because true globalism is now centuries old. Like, what is the federal government going to do to people?

Like I said, they're going to get a bunch of Pinkerton to, like, shoot everybody who's not diverse in the community they live in. That's laughable. You know, like, it's, this is coming to an end, and people don't understand that. And I try and tell them again and again, and they don't listen to me.

Old people do know some things. When I was like a teenager, half of the places I go out regularly like night time or daytime if I went there I might have gotten fucking killed like black people would literally like kill me now that's unthinkable 30 years ago

Bill Clinton he'd say to the DNC like you know in like 50 years it'll always be one race people like ooh yeah anti-racism if a president can't say that now people want to fucking lynch him.

They'd be, like, outraged. I mean, can you imagine that? You know, now people act like you're either corny and they roll their eyes at you or they tell you're, like, a total piece of shit if you, like, stump for Israel. Unless you're in, like, some, like, dumb hick town,

or unless you're, like, in Skokie, Illinois where, like, 90% of people are Jewish or something. You live on a different planet than 30 years ago in this regard. like it's it's like a different country you know and people act like they should like somehow like a staying power it's ridiculous people also think that the um that this was forced upon us and yeah in a way you do have a social engineering regime but you also have to have people who are willing to go along with it and also willing people who are willing to collude you know i tell people this all the time i'm

like if you're if you're if you're in if you want to complain about this jew did this and in history and it led to this and it led to this and everything they didn't do it alone well that's all point of parables about people like nero and julian the apostate you know these guys these guys were roman patricians you know they they thought that they were gods basically you know, the fact that I mean, even like Donald Trump's like that. You know, like I call him rabbi Trump.

They have to say he's a piece of shit. But Trump doesn't fucking care about Jews. Trump cares about Donald Trump. Like if every, you think of Israel seats to exist tomorrow Trump would care. You wouldn't care. You'd be like these guys can no longer pay me. You know, when he'd find somebody else to pay him.

And somebody else would. You know? I mean, in some ways, think that's worse than, like, being a partisan for your own people, even in a warped way that's, like, against a God, like Zionist are. But that's the whole point, you know, and it's, but also, I mean, like I said, if you don't, part of the, the reason why I'm writing this manuscript, I mean, it's for a lot of reasons, because, you know, like I mentioned you the other day, because I don't have children, which I'm totally fine with, and I can't sing and dance. You know, I'd kind of like to leave something behind in my own small way, so that's like this book I'm writing. And I'm trying to explain the 20th century in one volume that's like not too cumbersome as actually someone readable. You've got to look at the Jewish diaspora, like as a people, like as a true nation in the diaspora. You've got to look at them as like a combatant actor in World War II, as everybody did in the era, frankly.

and America and the Soviet Union allied with that actor contrary Europe and the Empire Japan okay then as this divided globalism set in

the Soviet Union turned on America and this nation in diaspora which now had representation of international law like in the state of Israel so you're talking about like the winning coalition of the victorious element in the 20th century. Like, that's why.

Okay. And that's something I try and explicate. I'm drawing things for the Sega conceptual intelligibility. I'm kind of drawing this in broad strokes, but that's the short answer. Yeah, I think that we I think everything so we live in a world and I think I heard you say this recently it's like people want to be like oh I didn't know this and I can't be educated in this even though like literally there every book in the world is in the palm of their hand with the phone and they can

find out anything they want and I think that the people are not going to understand exactly exactly what's happened until you start blaming you don't just blame one group you blame it you blame everyone who was in on this well they also understand historical processes like I said I one thing I do think of on museums are on to I don't accept their whole I don't accept their praxis you know or anything but something they are right about is you do need some kind of intuition to interpret business cycles i mean trumpeter made that point too that's not it's not it's not that's not anything mystical it doesn't i'm not making reference

a drawing among like augury or something but you either have that you don't it the whole is greater than some of its parts it's not as it may i really reading the discrete codeable variables it's the same with politics and historical phenomenon or cultural things i mean eliotty made that pointing in two you either it's like you know he's talking about shamanism and prime symbols between very diverse cultures

and what commonalities are he's like yeah I can list variables that I can identify synonymous according to some some arbitrary criteria you know ideas of edification and suffering and things that are and feelings that are universal

of the human condition but it doesn't really tell us anything so like a secret experience and things that are symbolic of it in psychological terms. You know them when you see them or you don't perceive these things. Okay?

And I suppose that's what a talent is for religion, I miss cultures. Once that have stronger and more evogative symbols of this nature or stronger in that regard, ones that don't are weaker. Okay? But that's part of it. Like, even people are intelligent.

I'm not like a super smart person. Like, I don't think I'm stupid. but I'm the last person who's going to pretend like I'm some kind of like genius or like I'm so much smarter than the norm because I'm not I can perceive things in my field of concentration that other people can't okay there's guys who trade stocks and there's guys who trade for it's they can do that with financial quantities and things like that and financial instruments I can't do that with that kind of stuff I can with macroeconomics and politics and if you can't you're tripping over your dick because you're just looking at variables and treating it like some sort of formal equation or something you know and if that was the case

the guys like metternich or Henry Kissinger or James Baker wouldn't exist if you were a king or like a president or like a warlord you just like hire a guy from MIT and be like go get code what's going to happen you know what's the Soviet Union going to do like code these variables

now I'll know for certain. Nobody can do that because that's not what it is. But somehow guys like Mannernitch and Kissinger and Baker knew what was going to happen. As long as they're psychic, you know. I'm not saying like I'm anywhere near guys like that, obviously, but on the spectrum or scale spectrum, I said that, not people are going to call me a retard.

But on the scale of the way my mind is wired, that's where my skill set is, okay? Well, one of the points made, here, and I'm just doing a bunch of devil's advocate at this point, is that the monetary system allows them to go, you know, do a lot of the things that they can do. Do you see the dollar going away? Yeah, it's going to be, it's not going to just disappear and there's not going to be some punctuated collapse like 1929, but that, you know, wipes out the dollars in reserve currency in some punctuated way. Like the dollar is going to

to be kind of devalued to the point where it's just in a de facto way even if there's still going to be incentive to maintain it as reserve currencies you can still like encourage america to do business with you in the way that america wants to you know and like a lot of countries i mean china is the most prominent but you know they are to eventually peg their currency against the dollar you know um so that's going to endure for a while but gradually even countries that insist that like the dollar still the reserve currency they're going to deal like what bricks does I'm not one of these guys just like bricks is the future

because I mean that's the Kremlin being stupid but uh and coping is like the youngsters say but uh their model of like maintaining like a floating basket of currencies as uh you know

to flesh out their reserves that's going to become the norm you know yeah well what you know I think what I hear a lot of people say is It's like, oh, the government's doing Bitcoin reserves. El Salvador has Bitcoin reserves.

We still have gold reserves. But what these people don't? Like, Bitcoin is not a currency. You know what Bitcoin is? There's nothing wrong with crypto, but it's not a currency. It's a non-traditional bond, and it's a way of banking without being availed to the enforcement mechanism and control and possible seizure of federal authorities. like you don't have a currency when the only store in value when your currency is pegged to the dollar.

Right. Yeah, I made that point about that. I made that point about gold. It's like anything that you're trying to identify as a potential M1 currency so that you can stop fractional reserve banking, that's not what stops fractional reserve banking. What stops fractional reserve banking is people in charge who don't want to fractionally reserve reserve the reserve the

banking also wasn't some like insidious thing in itself like that's antiquated thinking you know like what's the alternative we should have like in Islamic banking system where you're basically like when you take out a loan from a bank you're basically selling them stock and

you know you're selling them like perennial stock like beyond the scope of their investment I mean like lending it lending it interest in a way that's not usurious yes, that's, that's what fuels business and innovation. That's not like evil somehow.

But they're the same people too, like the people who claim like banking is evil, or the same people who claim like gold is, is, is, uh, is somehow like immune to interest rate manipulation. Gold is literally a shiny rock. Like shiny rocks aren't real and like bearer paper is not fake. Like how's like a shiny rock real? you know like I think gold is cool I like to see stuff made out of it it's nice to give you a girlfriend or something

I'm not anti-gold but it's a shiny rock I mean that's what it is all right I'm going to get us out of here let me just read a couple super chats here ex-comeron rumble says and I don't believe this for one second I mean I believe the second part I don't believe

the first part. It says, I've never met a Jew, but I did shake George Bush's hand when I was 10 in the year 2000, so close enough. That's awesome. So Sully the Amalek. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. Sully the Amalekite, subscribe for five. Thank you. Carl Y. N says, Pete, did you ever see any gigs at the brass mug in Tampa? I saw some great bands back then. Yeah, that was like the friggin, there was a lot of punk stuff. there and hardcore stuff and like at that time when i was in tampa i just wasn't into it i bent to the browns me down there too yeah yeah yeah and that was that was kind of blowing up when uh when i was there too but yeah i was more into like the um there was like a big goth clam

scene there and everything and that was like most of my friends that i was hanging out with were like into goth clam and everything so uh yeah sully the malachi says pete did reading the last crusade have anything to do with you getting back to your catholic roots understand you likely were on your way but wow carroll's uh carol's work really pulls me that way too um for a for a bunch of years like i was just getting put in like catholic hardcore catholics were getting put into like my friends were like everyone that i was coming into contact with was a hardcore catholic and everything and then i guess what cinched it was when i moved to this little town in East Alabama that has, you know, more, like a hundred times more chickens

than people. And there's this little Catholic parish in this town. And I'm just like, let me go visit that and everything. And that's what that's basically what pulled me back in and got me for my first confession in decades, which was a load of fun. And then, all right. And our buddy creg says always great to see pete and thomas on a sunday night stream after work creg's creg coming in from austria that's awesome but um all right man i'm gonna let you go i i appreciate you joining me for this stream and i appreciate everybody um you know i was i was reading the comments you know and um i just wasn't responding to him because i thought this was a conversation that uh needed to be had at this time so um i want to thank thomas for

joining me once again and um yeah man and oh and by the way everyone in about an hour and 15 minutes the next episode what thomas comes out it's part four of the uh radical traditionalist school where thomas talks about mercia leadi and uh julius evela so tune in thank you thomas i appreciate it yeah thank you man i want to welcome everyone back to the piquanetto show Thomas is back and I guess maybe this will be like a part two of what we talked about in the live stream last week

yeah that that's sensible to characterize it as such what do you got for us I refer to Hannah Arendt a lot I mean I cite her a lot as one of my sources I mean she was an important historian and she was an acolyta Heidegger

and she wrote specifically about the historical experience of Jewish and European hostility and that's important because it's not something people understand and unfortunately I mean I honestly don't understand where people get their ideas from

I guess maybe they think internet memes constitute some sort of education on things or you don't you don't even have to guess that I've had people tell me, like when I was a libertarian and I would talk about, you know, narco-capitalism, I would have people tell me everything I know, I'm in a narco-capitalist and everything I know about a narco-capitalist I learned from memes. Yeah.

And I mean, just like the terminology that will invoke, it's this weird polemical stuff that doesn't really have a context and, you know, I mean, which is like whatever. I don't, I prefer people like that. didn't have the capability to poison our conversations but you know it's something uh it's something that's ill understood and uh it's not reducible the subject matter i mean it's not reducible to polemic or things like that and you can't i mean regardless of uh what's pathological or dysfunction about, you know, Talmudic Judaism,

you can't project current political conditions into the distant past, as if that this is just some sort of structural schema that's always existed. And the reason why things became so anybody became so violent

in the 20th century is because there was issues of first impression emergent from a structure that was no. you know one of our rents big points is that first of all the third reich was not at all in nationalist government in some ways it was the opposite they looked at their mandate and their mission and their ideological imperative as civilizational you know their veldt politic was a superpower politic Hitler was always talking about how Germany is the axial pivoted Europe into strategic terms.

Europe is the heir to classical civilization, and that's why we've got to understand ourselves. Nationalism is this Westphalian contrivance that was a mile wide and a centimeter deep. You know, and I think I made the point before, the National Socialist, they'd contempt for the narrowness of nationalism. And their early enemies, I'm talking, like when Drexler was heading the party, before Hitler even, you know, came on the scene with the DAP, these regional nationalists were the guys they'd fight with a lot of the time because these people were stunted in their perspective and that's not what national socialism or any of the dominated

theological strains they were actually having an impact in a world affairs like nobody thought that way anymore who was actually engaged you know and the way to understand Jewish power is that it was kind of the legacy of the balance of power system in Europe you know the slow development of nation states under kind of the tutelage and domain of absolute monarchs you know one of the ways they kind of were able to project power across national frontiers especially in the terms of fluid capital such that existed then was through Jewish financial concerns and this also the kind of unofficial means diplomacy so such that

Jews were kind of the de facto integrated banking structure of, you know, Westphalia in Europe. You know, and to be clear, that didn't convey any direct political power. As a matter of law, Jews had no political power. You know, so when people act like in Cromwell's era or something, Jews were these bad guys who were sabotaging political events. or engaged in socially revolutionary activity that's asinine like whatever hostilities existed sociologically it didn't translate

to that kind of paradigm because that wasn't possible it's just ignorant to suggest otherwise you know and after the French Revolution the degree to which everything abruptly changed across the continent

that can't be over-emphasized. You know, among other things, aside the sociological disruptions and the kind of ontological shock of it, political power started to become global, you know, in a nascent way. And the nation-states that still existed, their concerns became more and more

scaled and an exponentially larger amount of capital and credit needed to be placed at a government or a monarch's disposal you know and this caused a consolidation these kinds of smaller concern financial concerns were wiped out um jews were downerly mobile during that period and that radicalized a lot of them. The combined assets of the wealthiest strata of Western and Central European Jewry became

more and more consolidated. And then that became a political concern just because of the power that it wielded. And suddenly the fortunes of that sort of

financial structure was no longer abstract from politics and political events, you know, and there were certain showpoints whereby access to that kind of fluid capital depended upon, you know, political imperatives. And so you had ambitious men within these remaining Jewish financial concerns who became, who became political actors, you know, in part because that will was always there and couldn't be realized and also partly by necessity, you know, and to be clear, this is a fairly formalized structure long before, you know, a lot of court historians have this idea and even people who have someone of a revisionist perspective, they view the kind of weird interdependence between

European monarchs and aristocrats in Jewry as suddenly after, you know, emancipation and the granting of political rights to people across creedal divides, you know, this was suddenly when Jews started appearing at European court. That's totally inaccurate. Pretty much every noble house, every monarch, every royal court. They had some representative at Jewish financial concerns, literally posted at court to handle this kind of business. You know,

and these guys, it was almost always a single individual. It was almost always a single man who wasn't tethered intrigues by virtual like the woman he was married to. He almost always had contacts, familial contacts, across national frontiers. And ideally, he'd have some sort of end with whoever the primary rival, the court he served, was so engaged. And that was kind of the start of Jewish political power as we think of it.

you know, despite what people think, I mean, yeah, in the modern era, like post-Westphalian peace, money took on an outside significance in political life. But this idea that having money axiatically makes you political powerful, politically powerful is a non-sequitur. It doesn't. I mean, even today. There are two different things. There's an interdependence there that's natural and financial power and political power. There's incestuous aspects to the human component of who serves these concerns. But one doesn't somehow translate to the other automatically. you know so it's not the thing of

Jews as rich guys like that's not that doesn't tell us anything all kinds of people have money you know in terms of control of wealth at scale the Japanese and the Saudis

control an astronomical amount of money the world's not run by Japan in Saudi Arabia okay and that's not an accident plus two production of commodities at scale it had this kind of homogenizing effect on European economies

at least in the west of Europe and that changes things too because if basically every nation state it's national economy accounting for comparative advantage such that it can be said to exist in macroeconomics is engaged in basically the same kind of business

financial concerns and financial houses that service them they basically start gambling on the same imperatives and futures and outcomes you know and that's got the effect of

not just driving up the cost of doing business but you know it allows for a certain homogenization of how of how capital functions

at continental scale you know and to be clear too this is I think I made this point before probably somewhat polemically but going back to the middle ages through the late modern period this is the big reason why kings fell out with jews it wasn't because jews don't like white people and their commies it was i'm in a hawk to these people and the vig i'm paying them is positively usurious and i think i'll not pay them and i'll banish them from my kingdom you know that's what it came down to and that is the effect of you've basically got

to handle your banking needs by proxy through some other friendly government or you've got to stake out some sort of path of autarky and accrue massive at that time would have been gold and silver reserves and try to go it alone this had a profoundly negative effect and your ability to do business if you did that okay but that's that was the main catalyst for Jews being banished from the court it wasn't people deciding that Jews are bad because I'm based so I don't want them here anymore there was absolutely peasant and pogroms against Jews that were born of hostility and Jewish financial and labor concerns abusing those people that was what that 100% happened but at the

level of royals and edicts formally banishing Jews from these territories it was what I just said it was it wasn't this fantasy of what people seem to think and you can't corral that into some sort of common paradigm with the current situation or as things have been since

you know the close of the 19th century or whatever um the this started coming somewhat to an end at least in you know

by the time Germany was united the whole schema of how national military endeavors were funded it changed but in a lot of Europe this endured

really until the great war the the the the Austro-Prussian war of 1866 one of the big banking concern one of the big prussian jewish banking concerns was uh bleakroter

and uh bleakroter himself gerson van bleakroter he and bismarck had this fairly tight business relationship contemptuous as it may have been otherwise and uh one of the things uh uh that's sort of solidified their partnership. You know, Bismarck was not, he was not some, the Reichs consular was not some sort of absolute monarch or something. He had to appeal to parliament if he wanted to fund any kind of military activity. And when the parliament cut the purse strings,

Bismarck, he made his case to some of the Prussia's traditional allies and when they weren't biting, he went to Bleak Rotter and essentially found himself in a hoax to, you know, the Jewish Berliner banking structure. That was going to the last time that happened at scale. And this is one of the things that's interesting.

Like, you read the Nuremberg laws, and if you read kind of the, if you read, like, what Gerbil was writing in his diaries about, like, what the cadres were saying, you know, this was a very political act. It was, we're going to get Jews out of the civil service. We're going to get them out of the professions. You know, we're going to, we're basically going to strip them

of political rights. And if they try to mobilize, you know, for example, some KPD cadre and, like, sick them on our people in Munich or whatever, we're going to throw them in a concentration camp. There's no talk of Jews are not allowed to conduct financial business because at the level we're talking about that wasn't really an issue. you know it's not like it's not like in berlin in 1934 if i needed a small business loan to like open my restaurant or to you know buy like building tools my construction firm it's not like i was like appealing to some jewish guy and i had uh it basically cowtowed or he wanted to get you know like um some sort of line of equity and i think people misunderstand that you know they're absolutely jews actually

did absolutely did wield financial power particularly the uk and the usa but not in the way we're talking about in you know westphalia in europe it sociologically it played out totally differently you know and it was a political problem um in the german rike it wasn't it wasn't an economic problem or a banking problem you know I'd even argue too I mean I'm the case I'm the first to stipulate you know a lot of America's involvement in World War I they quite literally was Wall Street having the Wilson administration by the balls and demanding interventions they didn't eat a billion dollar loss based on this unsecured line of credit was being afforded to the british crown but i mean that was

j p morgan was absolutely a war profiteering firm but this wasn't jews manipulating an outcome from wall street jp morgan didn't care how the how it shook out they wanted their money you know it so happened that they bet on the wrong horse you know so that's important too it was uh and and again that's an odd case in the late modern era i mean all of the things about the first world war were strange but that's important to say i'm sure the rebuttal is going to be coming from somebody in the comments insisting that uh insisting that uh wilson was owned by jews because jp morgan wanted its money but uh you know um and this is uh uh

you know traditionally too there was sometimes formally sometimes just de facto these european peace treaties that established national boundaries and rights therein and these territorial swaps and everything else that characterized europe for centuries there's pretty much always some sort of jewish representation on deck when these things were fleshed out and that by the end of the 19th century that had basically come to an end you know and one of the, a rent makes the point two I mean aside from the political structure and the characteristics

that derive from that structure that was emergent as Europe truly entered late modernity you know as wars became total culminating in World War I the metric became victory or death for waging war you're not going to have some financial representatives on deck

running unofficial diplomacy with your enemy as to how we're both going to kind of make sure our economic concerns aren't devastated by conflict when you're trying to annihilate your enemy in absolute capacities you know you're trying to physically annihilate him in his country then occupy it

and then essentially either rape what remains figuratively and literally or reconstitute it as you know a kind of destination market for your manufacturers and financial instruments

like you're not you're not going to have some Jewish banking representative on deck from the enemy country to like negotiate with your people i mean that's that's absurd obviously you know and that's important too nascent globalism you know the limited globalism that was emergent uh by world war one basically precluded that kind of stuff you know so it's it's uh it's ridiculous to talk about jewish financial power in the 20th and the 20th century is driving from banking that's not what it derives from you know um

interestingly too i mean back when during the the merkle consular ship you know when famously when um when these wall street types um including goldman sacks they were trying to they were basically trying to break uh the industrial national like an o of the Bundes Republic and they approached these German banking concerns which were largely goish and I'm talking like in the 2000s and when they tried to get this was obviously pre 2008 crash Goldman Sachs was trying to get the Germans to sign on with funding these financial instruments and basically put their you know integrate retirement funds and welfare outlays with like 401k like structures and like the whole like

german bank community like laughs in their face like we don't invest in derivatives the fuck's wrong with you you know i mean like it's um i mean that speaks for itself you know that this is uh Germany is literally an occupied country. It's being subjected to ethnic cleansing by social engineering. But the indigenous financial structure, they like laugh at Wall Street when they try and get them in on these like Shylock

you know, con shell games at scale you know, with respect to financial derivatives. I mean, frankly, I would have been surprised with any other way. I mean, now the Europeans are literally mentally insane people now. I mean, like, you can't, they're patently irrational. But, you know, I, when there was, when, when some kind of basic reason still prevailed,

even a mithogling occupation, you know, I mean, that, that speaks for itself, that, you know, banking concerns are particularly on the side of financial capital not commercial banking obviously it was very very discreet from whatever the political situation was and the political culture was and endorsed to this day because

in in some basic sense you know so there was this there was this odd contradiction where on the one hand this Jewish diaspora

which existed in terms of basic hostility with indigenous European majorities the thing that built their power base was their peculiar insinuation into financial affairs

and life at court but what ultimately created this terrible and catastrophic enmity between the two populations was an almost exclusively political matter that didn't really have anything to do with high finance you know and this isn't a trivial point or something that should only give interest to academics it's actually important but um moving on let me find my place here um you know and this is one of the reasons why in the era the era being in the 1930s and 40s and then beyond to the Cold War and even today this pops up in historical discussions people attack revisionists or people they perceive as being sympathetic to fascism of history or whatever

saying like, well, how can you, quote, blame Jews for revolutionary communism if they're these arch-capitalist manipulators? I mean, that's a false dichotomy anyway, but also it's not one or the other. And again, by the 20th century, you know, other than at great scale, we're talking about massive fortunes, you know, and these consolidated financial concerns, Jews really weren't insinuated into finance. Erie Schleskin makes the point, you know, he's a guy who wrote the Jewish century. He's an interesting scholar. You know, obviously he's a, you know, he's a, he's descended from pale settlement people, you know, so it can't be said that he's just

just some constitutional anti-Semite or something you know he's got an anthropological in the traditional sense you know drawing upon the same kind of methodology as people like dumazzo you know he talks about the jewish conceptual horizon how they view themselves you know as a people and how they view the world outside themselves and the prime symbols that constitute that worldview. You know, he's the guy who coined the phrase Mercurians to describe the Ashkenazum

and Apollonians to describe these European populations that, you know, are descended from a warrior yeomanry and I identify with those kinds of values and things. You know, he very much borrows him to try functional hypothesis, but, you know,

the Mercurian view or cultural perspective or, you know, orientation, existential orientation. I'm going to look at it that way. It's not reducible to a belief in money and the power and efficacy of money or something.

You know, it's got an emphasis on abstraction as the way of doing business in lieu of agricultural activities. You know, it kind of, profiteering and negotiation sometimes which is perfidious and hostile liberally in lieu of warfare you know um an idea of the historical process as uh being kind of related to concrete particulars and intrigues therein rather than you know a kind of narrative whole that is uh exists under, you know, the Christian God, obviously.

You know, and Schesley makes the point two, or Slitsky makes the point two. At the turn of the 20th century, the total population of European Jewry was about 8.7 million. And over five million of these people lived in the Russian Empire. where they were about four or five percent of the population and most of the Russian Jews lived in the pale settlement and residency laws restricted them there are some slim minority who were farmers or factory workers like scattered about but you know his point was that breaking down these demographics realities you're not you're not talking about some like cosmopolitan group of people you're

talking about a really kind of primitive almost backwards living people you know in majoritarian terms you know so the idea that these this kind of cultural milu was giving rise this kind of worldly conspiratorily sophisticated perspective is kind of nonsense. You're talking about very basic hostility, okay? From people who mostly

were kind of incestuously insular. You know, and like within that kind of strange existence, developing and curating like an increasingly violent hostility to the world without you know and that reality seems totally at odds with the kind of caricature that exists in people's minds of jewelry you know and slitsky makes the point too that this a major component of them kind of Purian conceptual

horizon, it's contingent on the outside world retaining this kind of strangeness. You know, and the cliché is that you know, the Ascanism it's this paranoiac

tendency and not just dislike for outsiders, but this idea that the outside world's dangerous, you know, that's very much the source of you know internal

cultural life here you know this is the opposite of a sophisticated worldly perspective you know it's it's um

it's um it's incredibly it's a cultivated ignorance you know like it really it really is you know and that

that breathes on pathologies too So what are the cultural poll stars and psychological metrics in terms of, you know, historical memory, you know, oh, the Cossacks are programming us? You know, there's, there's a World War II as a world conspiracy against Jews, you know, like this kind of stuff would be laughable, were it not, you know, enshrined into this kind of reigning ideology. of uh you know um that that oppresses people at scale you know if you if you remove that aspect of it and the historical significance of it and the danger of it you'd pity and laugh at people who think that way you know um and that uh you know and to be clear there's kind of a naturally built-in almost

commissarial structure very few people talk about this I think it's because a lot of Americans don't really have a taste for serious theology and anthropological characteristics that are related therein

you know the degree to which Jewish society became this sort of fractious remnant of a once complete cultural paradigm after 70 AD really can't be overstated like this idea of the synagogue being the center of cultural wife and these these rabbinic scholars who aren't priests and I'm not sure people really understand that without a temple there's no priesthood about a sacrificing priesthood there's a is no Judaism as is understood in biblical terms but a rabbi is basically he's kind of one-part minister but he's more almost kind of a scholar of the law you know

like a juristic professorial type you know having men like that be kind of the cultural backbone and in lieu of a temple or a church having a synagogue which is basically a which is basically an academic and political institution be the center of humanitarian life that's very strange you know and that's also why that's also why the kind of two poll stars of status among the Ashkenazim were being a learned man in Judaism and again not

a priest and not a and not a kind of not a not of you know like a learned man in Islam you know what people are going to colloquially call it Mullah which is improper for a lot of reasons but that's something different too you're going to think of

these guys in places like Iran and you find it across sectarian divide like Shi or Sunni who kind of aspire to be like learned men in Islam that's kind of a different thing that's drawn almost upon you know like a tradition of mystics that's common to a lot of these

a lot of these Islamic cultures like I'm not I'm not saying that's a lofty thing to aspire to either but it's a different thing you know there's nothing mystical about a rabbi there's nothing you know it's uh like i said it's fundamentally commissarial you know and uh so that role you know being kind of coveted or like being able to accrue money you know that's like how many people feel about that and whether that's you know

moral or not it's a strange thing to assign that kind of profound cultural value like most most developed cultures kind of view with the in terms of the opposite you know like oh he's a pious man he foregoes an interest in you know material things for their own sake you know um so this is all very strange and again the way to understand it is that it these tendencies derived from this self-imposed isolation and kind of ignorance of the outside world and this sort of like incestuous insularity. It doesn't derive from the kind of

like cynical worldiness that comes from, you know, running things and, you know, knowing about the world and being urbane, that's preposterous. It's literally the opposite. You know, and this is a and this

is one of the things, too, where once that kind of interdependence, that existed between European elites and Jewish elites based again on kind of the how politics was done at court and things like once they all went away you're talking about populations that are situated really as vicious enemies and not only was there no longer any sort of interdependence that insinuated a kind of common objectivity about one another if not respect you know once that went away there's something horrible was going to happen and that's exactly what did happen you know um and to be clear too i i don't know if i got on this before but like slensky makes the point you know most uh well most jews didn't even speak the the the languages of the people they lived among you know like Ukrainian Jews spoke Yiddish they didn't speak

Ukrainian or Russian you know if you went to a if you went to a Jewish village in Latvia even when that was situated you know amid you know like a larger constellation of towns or something these people didn't speak Latvian they didn't eat the same foods they didn't go to the same places they looked at each other as dirty you know and similarly like unless you were some sort of linguistic scholar or something or just by accident of being immersed in some sort of truly sort of cosmopolitan and multi-racial city like Hasper in Vienna you know non-Jews didn't speak Yiddish like why would they you know so there was it is possible in late

modernity perhaps even especially in late modernity to literally live next door to a people and remain totally insular from them and I think a lot of people I mean that's one of the reasons why the whole narrative of globalism at scale fails I mean that's starting to fade now people don't really you're you're finding those kinds of appeals to you know moral platitudes and social propaganda that's that's becoming less and less common but this idea that oh in the modern under modern conditions you know you live around over kinds of

people it's like yeah and people got their face in the screen and like they hate each other you know like it's not you're not going out to like work on a farm with like a you know all these great people who work there with you or something or

you know and increasingly you're not even like you're not even passing randos on the street anymore if you don't want to you know I mean I kind of have to because I don't have a car you know like put in a the uh that agree to which even

prior to information age innovations you could entire communities could avoid each other while being situated two miles apart I mean that was reality you know it's um

the uh but that's um you know and this obviously this obviously this is a bit tangential but it's related you know uh

and particularly on point it needs to be this kind of ongoing discussion about the reason for this profound and catastrophic enmity of the regime to Russia that I mean the degree to which

the degree of the Ashkenazum hate the Russians can't be overstated you know and even even when you read this this kind of yeah van vishem type propaganda like even within their own narrative they say stuff like

you know Germany was a civilized and culture land and you know Jewish Berlin Berliners were patriotic Germans you know if we were going to suffer a horrible program anywhere, we'd have thought it would be Russia.

I mean, Russia is the enemy to the Ashkenazim. You know, and I like you know, that piece Stalin's willing executioners. It was originally a paper that

Kevin McDonald drafted. And then he expanded into this not quite book-length essay, but that most of that piece it's a review and a breakdown of Schleskeen's book because this is a huge

aspect of what Sleskeen talks about you know and he fully acknowledges a huge amount of Jews joined the Cheka and they set about to massacre their Slavic neighbors who they viewed as oppressing them

you know they hated these people and Stalin exploited that you know and I don't know how anybody can look at how the Soviet how the Russian Revolution developed

you literally had the Jewish population locking and loading slaughtering these people that they hated massacring their priests destroying their churches trying to wipe them out as a culture and then when

these criminal personalities like Stalin after kind of the cycle like killing it run its course and after the Second World War and the emergency wrought-bited pass like what does Stalin do you being hanging and purging all of them because they were too dangerous to allow to survive

in this kind of socialistic empire that derived its what, you know, derived its internal cohesion and its legitimacy from this claim that, you know, the Russians are the first among the nationalities. Like, how anybody can look at that and be like,

Putin likes the Jews, and Israel and Russia are allies. I mean, like, you're, you don't live in reality if you think that way. Or, I mean, you're so fucking stupid. You probably are at risk afraid to breathe, you know, and then dying. You know, to say nothing of the fact that the Soviet Union was literally at war with Israel for decades, the Russians went to war against Israel again in 2011, and then a Zionist government was installed in Ukraine and receded to assault the Russian Federation.

Like I, this isn't esoteric or crazy stuff that requires a lifetime of study and. attention of subtle nuance to to understand. Like if you look at a political map and if you turn on a legacy media programming for five minutes, this is what

jumps out at you. Like even if you're not an intelligent person. You know, that's why I just, I refuse to engage with people who say such things anymore because some things are too stupid.

do acknowledge but that's um you know that's that's the long and short of it i mean don't get me wrong i've got my own theories on geopolitical affairs and obviously i'm no environmentalist type of person but the reality is that this voracious appetite for consumption and the conversion of, you know, natural resources and commodities into usable value-added things. This has, you know, there's a limited carrying capacity here. And one of the reasons America is the loci of world power is because it's, it retains, you know, what remains the bounty of nature is situated here and it's being rapidly depleted the remainder the other remainder of the world's natural resources are in central asia you know oil natural gas

arable land um you know all all these things Central Asia, the Russian heartland. It doesn't quite have what we do here, but it's compared to the rest of the planet. It's a tremendous wealth of resources. And so there is that incentive too to break up the Russian Federation and be able to access and exploit those things.

You know, I mean, this goes way back so that's that's always a consideration but that is this far from the primary catalyst for the you know adopting a an irrational war footing towards the Russian Federation has happened in 1999 and plus two if that was the only if that if that if that was the only objective you won't that's not that you don't go about it by waging some irrational crusade against the Russian Federation and transforming Ukraine into a kind of suicide torpedo. It's not how you do it. You know, so it doesn't defeat

or rebut the proposition to point out you know, well, you know, these some of these energy concerns are trying to break Russian state control as far back as like, you know, 99, 2000. Yeah, that did happen. That is happening. But like, it's one of the other you know um that's why too the when uh the bush baker uh plan the bush baker gorbachev model for the post-soviet era you know like i said before that's really interesting because in in part um that plan called for the soviet union to remain

until full disarmament had been realized and then for it to transition to something like a common of independent states this kind of devolved federalism but with uh the supremacy of moscow as the political core remaining but rumsfeld cheney um a bunch of the pnac guys their big notion was to break the Soviet Union essentially into three pieces you know like the Siberian East or like so what was Soviet Asia then there was like basically

the greater Moscow Leningrad kind of constellation of of territory and then like Ukraine and like Belarus and like Western Russia

you know that was kind of how it was supposed to break down and some sort of some sort of Cypher like Yeltsin would be kind of like the dictator of you know like American commissariat Moscow there the EU

would be able to essentially cannibalize Ukraine you know uh with uh you know america in the driver's seat obviously is the occupying element and then uh the uh the soviet far east would what would have been like the soviet far east that basically be uh like the territorial hedge uh against china and that also be uh the origin point of deployment into Central Asia and stuff, you know, in the subcontinent and what have you. And that would also facilitate pressure being brought to bear on Iran and stuff. So that's really interesting to contemplate.

Well, the people who think that Putin works for the Jews would have to believe that he basically is doing what Yeltsin was supposed to do as far as, Pinnak was the end which means that if he works for the Jews he works for America because I mean if we're Zogged that means that means that Putin works for the United States what works for the United States government

these same people like I said like I don't I haven't followed him lately maybe he's become more sensible I don't know but I used to run into these guys who were like Info Wars fans and they drop a lot of Alex Jones's talking points

and they'd claim stuff like the Cold War was ledger in Maine and I'm an idiot because there was never any chance in nuclear war because it was all fake and it's like that's not how things work I mean that's stupid for all kinds of reasons

but it's like so America and the Soviet Union they were just maintaining these massive constellation of military forces then they were pretending to go to war in places like Vietnam and Angola and killing them

bunch of people just as part of like the magicians act why would anybody do that you know but i mean there's the same people who claim that well 9-11 was a controlled demolition it's like okay but you don't need to blow up the old trade center to get a war mandate you know what you basically need to stir up war fever you know this isn't uh this isn't this isn't 1940 where you got you know president for life Roosevelt saying how do I how can I mobilize 20 million men you know and kill off uh they were from like a quarter million like a million American boys in some unpopular war and basically shut down all activity other than this you know unrelated to this you know unrelated to this you know massive war effort yeah then you do need a pearl harbor to make that happen you

don't need to you don't need to blow up new york city to invent a catalyst to intervene in the Middle East, you know, I mean, did Bush 41 order some sort of bomb to be planted in Chicago or L.A. to intervene in the Gulf War? I mean, like, apparently not, you know, like, because that's acidine. But the, you know, I said with the Russia thing, it's like, okay, I understand in some cases we're talking about historical or political phenomena. Like, trying to explain to people especially people who don't really understand these topics in depth

why there was this incredibly violent enmity between you know Jews and Germans okay that's a complicated topic and it's subtle the case of Russia and Israel they both

talk both Russians and Israelis and Jews write books about how they hate each other why they hate each other they go to war constantly and then people turn around and act like this is like they're like befuddled by the reality of this like

it's very much above board you know like essentially the entire final phase of the Cold War especially after you know Southeast Asia and

the subcontinent and you know we're stabilized they settle into this kind of divided paradigm and the Sinovian-Soviet split was you know kind of ossified into a new paradigm

like basically the front line of the Cold War was Palestine you know Moscow literally passed a law making it a crime to be a Zionist this goes back centuries

you know it's I don't understand it how you can be like that fucking stupid but uh you know like i i i just don't um i just don't engage with those people because they're i worry it might be contagious like i might become like unbelievably fucking stupid if i like catch whatever they have or something well it's like the 9-11 thing the how not how 9-11 happen and how the buildings fell why three buildings fell is really like that's for the low IQ people to talk about why it happened and you know why it was carried why that mission was carried out

is way more important and but people don't want to know the why because if you can figure out where the bomb was placed here and what happened here you you seem to be a whole lot smarter you know it's like that's one of the things about conspiracies is and I'm not talking about conspiracy I mean there are conspiracies there was a conspiracy to get the States into World War I. We know this. I mean, that's that's inarguable. I'm talking about these conspiracies that are meant to divert you away from the things that you should be concentrating on. I mean, it's like you have people who believe that like the reason Putin is a Jewish puppet is because he's crossing over border and killing white people. Yeah. Well, that's what that's what

that's what jews want right jews want to kill white people and even even if he's not working with him he's so fucking stupid that he fell for it yeah you can't i it's just like a total lack of understanding of how sociology functions at scale to like i don't i think people's idea that if you're talking about a country or a political constellation of hundreds of millions of people it functions kind of like the office they work at just bigger or something like they don't they don't understand that when you're talking about humanity at that scale there's nobody really at the helm you know you've got politically powerful people they're responding to essentially apoccal forces or acts of god if you're going to look it that way and identifying you know when where and how

you know a directive intervention by political or military means you know can swing an outcome in way or the other you know and there's other things there too i mean it's like what honor demands and you know impulses relating to the passions and things and you know uh paradigms of religious belief that like informed conduct but you know i don't yeah that's well people also don't even understand like what what politics is like it's not or they think that the planet is like some sort of variant of whatever like weird corner of america they live in you know like one of the things like um you know and uh i think too they've got this idea that warfare only emerges as some sort of as some sort of deliberate policy and like you can You can just make it happen or make it not happen like you can by tending your garden or something. You know, like war arrives like the seasons. You can inspire to capitalizing conditions of enmity and push those conditions towards catastrophe, you know, like America is done in Ukraine.

But it's the situation there, you're dealing with a totally dysfunctional culture. and there's an irrational animosity there, particularly coming from the Ukrainian side. But they didn't like spontaneously emerge one day because, you know, idiots at the American Department of State have some ability to like mind control people or something. But I maintain, and this isn't some sort of stupid flex. understanding politics at scale it's like anything else I don't understand why people just decide they understand this it's like would you decide

you understand nuclear physics you know like you know why do you think you have some say on this you don't know what the fuck you're talking about you know you have no ability to perceive these things but you're like oh this is what I think it's like why because you watch you watch TV like you know it's really really really weird

Yeah and you're not going to get it from podcasts either that's coming from a podcaster Yeah. We can help you down the road. We can point you in the right direction. But if you're not leaving here, if you're not leaving this and reading Yuri Sleskin or Hannah Arendt, well,

you don't know what was just discussed. And then you're going to have the people who are going to immediately say, well, you're invoking a rent and you're invoking Slezkin, and they're both Jews. And of course they're going to say that all, all this blame needs to be deflected away from Jews because, you know, they're trying to protect their own. Yeah, I just don't, I read a, I'm probably like a layman in terms of like space science and stuff.

And I listen to a lot of podcasts like by that guy, John Michael Godier, you know, he's the Event Horizon pod and stuff. And whether people agree with the takes of him and these other guys, these guys are all like PhDs and physics. I'm not saying credentials mean you know something, but in that whole kind of sphere, there's not just like random guys who are like, yeah, I manage at Walmart, but today I'm going to talk about, you know, black hole cosmology because I watch TV, so I'm an expert. Like literally in like political sphere, that's what it is. It's like, I'm some like random dickhead, like Dan Billzerian. And you might remember me from like how to pick up girls and like steroid guns. stuff, but I don't like Israel now. You know, it's like, where do these motherfuckers

get their fucking balls? You know, it's like, you have no opinion on this. You know, like, you know less than nothing. You know, and that's what's weird about it. But I realize there's an entire legacy media culture that

is kind of tailored to confer these delusions upon randos that they actually understand politics, but I still maintain it's a fucking weird phenomenon. I literally spend, like, 10 hours a day, like, studying this stuff and I have for my entire life. And I feel like I'm just scratching the service of things. But then there's, like, a billion randos who are, like, barely literate,

who have, like, some hardest-fuck opinion on politics. Like, it's retarded. Some of them have audiences, too. No, like, yeah, that's, like I said, like, if you look at these supposedly, like, right-wing fags, it's just like random idiots like that's why he's that like dan bilzerian guy he's literally like this like gym bro guy one day he's like i don't like israel like it's it's just like a gift but it's just weird it's weird these people think they understand that it's weird they gravitate the total randos who they decide are authorities on you know like political theoretical affairs and

stuff and it's just like weird they think that they're into they haven't have a stake in this anyway but it's it's like it's like the randos have decided like trump is ruining their life it's like it's like it's like you don't understand these things this has no impact on your life like why why you convince like Donald Trump is after you it's like whoever the president is it's like you're not capable of understanding this shit just like go about your goofy life that you know where you like work at target or whatever like why why have you decided you're like some Marvel comics character and Donald Trump's a super villain who's trying to do things to you know like that that should have like no bearing on your world

You know, I like it. All right, man. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's just frustrating sometimes because, you know, you, you bury your heads, bad in, head in these books, and you actually read them to people sometimes. You know how I like to do that and everything. And people still don't get it. It's still black and white. It's still this black and white. good versus evil kind of thing and it's there is no i mean if you bring up if you bring up

sociological issues you know within within the framework of two people of two distinct people who just are not going to be able to get along with each i remember one time you and i talked about i think jews in spain and it's like how the hell did jews go into a catholic country and both of those groups not immediately start killing each other it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever and why because there's a so it's not because one doesn't like the way the other one looks one doesn't like the way the other one smells it's because there is a fundamentally sociological issue there that is going to cause one of those groups to realize that the other is a grave threat to their to their survival in in that milieu well yeah and it's yeah exactly well no and that's why that's why it's why gay keep so hard and increasingly

I'm sure part of it's because I'm like old and cantankerous but I'm just not I'm not here to like try and spoon feed knowledge to stupid people or like disruptive or ignorant people and it's like I don't the thing it really gets me and like I said

I mean I try to overreact to this stuff and I'm very fortunate in all kinds of ways it's not bitter but they'll be motherfuckers they will literally plagiarize my shit and like say stuff i've said word for word and then like say i'm an idiot and i don't know what i'm talking about it's like really man it's like you got you got you have you built a content brand on plagiarizing me you know so it's like you must be a real idiot then because like apparently i don't know anything but your entire kink is like appropriating everything i say

and write but you know like johnny thunder has made the point that like people People would, like, hate on him constantly and see he was, like, a junky piece of shit. But then they, like, imitate everything he did. So, I mean, I guess it's like a thing. Yeah. And then you get a chance to have a conversation when people have been studying this for decades and, like, are actually, like, real academics. And you have conversations with them. And they're like, they're not calling you an idiot, like some fucking anon on Twitter will.

Well, it's also, too. I mean, frankly, like I said. I don't, I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm better than anybody, I don't think I'm like some kind of genius, but it's like, well, I don't know, man, I have a conversation about this kind of shit with people like Henry Kissinger, and, you know, I've never been told that I'm, that I don't know what I'm talking about or that I'm an idiot. And like I said, it's like, okay, fine, I'm an idiot, then, well, you motherfuckers stop plagiarizing me now. you know like i whatever but yeah yeah all right man um so people where they can find you yeah i mean uh the best spot remains sub stack it's real thomas seven seven seven seven seven at substack.com you know that's from there you can get to my social media and all that shit and uh my website now is pretty like everything should be working

right it's number seven h m as 7777.com like go there first and foremost yes sir oh one thing i took away from this you said it at the end gate keep gate keep in your personal especially in your personal life yeah if you're if you're out there gatekeeping on twitter oh that guy over there he won't name the jew so that means that he wants the jews to take us over. Yeah. Seek Canadian health care. Really?

Yeah, yeah. This is why this is why you don't teach people to read exactly. Yeah. Yeah, be good, man. Take care, brother. Bye.