The Pete Quiñones Show - The 'Robber Barons' Who Tried to Save America w/ Stormy Waters - Complete

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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I'm doing good. How about yourself? Doing good. So this is probably a little different than some of the appearances you've been making lately. Yeah. How did you put it? You just put it right before we started it, right before I hit record. Let's talk about WASP history.

And specifically, let's look for some heroes in the past that some people may have overlooked as heroes. You've gone down that rabbit hole, right? Yes, I have. As a member of this class that everyone seems to forget existed, I very much focus on, you know, kind of the better years of my people. before we were, before we took our eye off the ball. What's really interesting, though, is that, you know, one specific group, you know, we're going to look at is,

yeah, I think most people who would be listening to this would definitely think that they were, they were villains. And they tried to do something, they tried to do something awful. And you'll be happy to know that I gave, I gave, And I gave my lovely bride an overview of this today. And she's like, oh, what could have been? Yes, what could have been? I bet you like I would, I've talked to a couple guys in our scene about this.

And nobody has any idea that this happened. So what I hope to do with you pee over, you know, probably, you know, this episode and maybe a couple others go through. the fascist America that could have been and what was called in the press at the time, the business plot. And it would probably surprise a lot of people that are listening to this that not only were there, they've all heard of like Charles Lindbergh in America First. But there was a lot more to it than that. And Charles Lindbergh didn't just up and get the idea of America First.

America First was the second at bat, right? The Plan B, so to speak, of, unfortunately, probably the most villainized people, people in American history outside of, well, in, you know, contemporary history outside of Adolf Pittler. Right. Like you're supposed to hate, you know, Uncle Adolph and you're supposed to hate Mussolini. Yeah, that's correct. And you're supposed to hate guys like John Pierpott Morgan and David Rockefeller as villains. these are robber barons right we're we're forced to like a lot of us come through at least some level of conspiratorid land to get to where we are right like it takes a while going down all these different rabbit holes and you get to your final one that the final one you realize like who's really

at the bottom of all of this and then then you switch Well, some people will stay in conspirator land. And this is like I view these are like the people that view that certain group is omnipotent and all knowing and that resistance is futile. Like those are the conspirators that got to the bottom of the rabbit hole and didn't get the urge that people like me got or people like you got because one or two things is going happen you're going to get to the bottom of that last rabbit hole and you're either going to get real political real fast or you're just going to stay down there and be useless but the ones that decide

to get real political real fast they don't know it but they take a lot of that with them a lot of all of the other false rabbit holes that they were taught like or that they went down and all the the villainous deeds of John D. Rockefeller and all the villainous deeds of John Pierpont Morgan. And it would surprise many of them that these great men saw what was happening in Germany. And there's really no other way to put it. What these men witnessed was a miracle. Like up until that point, these men, I mean, there's going to be a lot of civil war hate and stuff and you know evil yankee fucking carpetbagging industrialist bastard but their enemy is now your current current enemy so maybe we can be a little forgiving

as we go forward because these guys very much built this country like as we see that like those all of those you know huddled masses that the statute of liberty talks about all these peasant farmers from all over Europe. Like, these people barely knew how to read and write. But they weren't stupid. And we joke about how all these people thought that, you know, the cities were paid with gold. Like, they're so stupid.

But they don't understand what America was up until World War I, World War II. what America did from 1860, arguably to 1910, was create more wealth per capita, right? So you can say whatever you want about the rich industrialists. They actually shared the wealth, unlike our current elite. They built more wealth as a nation than any previous civilization in his. history, right? Whether you can add ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese, ancient Indians, whatever. Put them all together in a pot. Right. And they won't even fill up half of the glass that these men created in under 100 years. So when they saw the Great Depression, right, and what it was doing to the country, and they looked across the ocean at what Hitler did in four years, these men thought it was a miracle.

And guys like closet leftists, Anthony Sutton wrote books about, you know, how the Nazi government was just a creation of, you know, rich bankers and industrialists, just a puppet, you know, just like the communists were. And that's not the case at all. Guys like Henry Ford, guys like Jack Morgan, guys like, oh, I forget the guy. guy's the guy's name that started IBM doesn't matter and guys like Nelson Rockefeller when they saw what Hitler was doing it was a fucking miracle to them but he did something impossible and they saw what the Soviet Union was doing and they're like this is not the thing so the business plot is the story of how these and doesn't realists sent agents, personal representatives to every single one of the fascist governments

for years, for a year and a half. The one that Jack Morgan sent was operating out of Morgan and Hodges, which was the Paris affiliate, right, his Paris subsidiary, and sending reports back to Jack Morgan from Germany about how Hitler came to power, how he was able to do what he did. And when they thought they learned enough, they went to recreate it. They wanted hear what they saw Hitler having there. And if it wasn't, and the other thing that pisses me off, Not only do we trash our own heroes because we've been trained to think that they were villains, but we laud our enemies. You know how many fucking stupid right-wingers will hit me with Smidley Butler quotes?

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is because of that, that terrible, terrible human being and him betraying the men that put their faith in him. So, like, for instance, I'll read you a quote from the Morgan Library. It's very interesting. Just to give you an idea of what could have been, and then I'll get into who these men were. Right. So there were three, you know, on the ground guys. that were all heads of various industry at one point in time or another, right,

that went overseas and fought in World War I and came back, and now were the head of veterans organizations inside the U.S. after World War I, that kind of organized around the, what was called the bonus farming. Right. And two of those guys, Mr. McIre and Mr. Dord, Mr. Doyle were heads of the Massachusetts and New York Veterans Associations. And it was the veterans associations that these guys, as in like the guys higher up the food chain, saw as the mechanism at which a fascist government could come to power.

They saw it in Germany and they saw it in Italy. and they saw how central the veterans were from the very beginning. So through emissaries like R.S. Clark, guys like Jack Morgan and his good friend, Henry Ford, and they were very close friends. In fact, the largest or the most frequent contributor to letters to the editor and frequent pener of op-eds in the Dearborn Independent was one. Jack Morgan. And that's J.P. Morgan's son. Yep.

J.P. Morgan's son. And after his death, the chairman of J.P. Morgan Chasing Company. And for those who are unaware. Yeah. And for those who are unaware of the Dearborn Independent, can you tell them what that was? The Dearborn Independent was Henry Ford's newspaper. So not only was it in, we've always heard the stories that the newspaper was something that he printed as like a side project, you know, it was like a little thing, a crazy old man did.

And he had to stuff him in the glove compartment of every Ford car and truck to, you know, get it out there. It's not the case. The reason that they were able to get such a wide circulation is because it was subscription-based. It was basically like podcast and shit art today in substacks. It was like a vast majority of Dearborn Independent newspapers went out via subscription. And it was the most red newspaper outside of the New York Times. in Wall Street because, you know, those people were the enemy.

And, I mean, just finance in general was villainized. But anyways, you want to talk about Jewish power. The only place you were hearing about Jewish power was in the Dearborn Independent and Father Cockman's radio shipping. And that was it. And the largest contributor outside of Henry Ford himself. to that operation was the head of J.P. Morgan Chase and company, a guy that we often villainize. The second most frequent op-ed contributor was one John D. Rockefeller. Interesting,

and his sons would continue the tradition. I'll get more into Anglo history later, or WOSP history later, but another guy that's frequently villainized. is Alan Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles. If I had to stack rank great Americans in the last 100 years, 150 years, patent would be somewhere in the middle of that list. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest.

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make it up. But these men were not only fascist sympathizers, but they actively tried to create a fascist government and came within a cunt hares. distance away from actually pulling it off. And if it wasn't Smetley Butler, you know, I guess staying true to the brokenness that's inside of a person to be a communist and him running to FDR and snitching on all these men, you probably would have one. and the two representatives of the two veterans organizations, John Doyle and Mr. McQuire, they wanted Smedley for the position, right?

So the way that they planned it, never mind, I'm going to back up a little bit, but you could have had a fascist government and the people that you're taught to hate or just flat out think don't exist came inches away from achieving just that. And there's virtually no history right outside of knowing that j p morgan is a bad man right or john d rock brother was a bad man

the history of america from the civil war to world war one like doesn't exist it's not taught so we became the richest civilization in the history of the world nobody fucking talks about it how did that happen who did it it's been virtually erased And we'll start with J.P. Morgan, Jack's father. And then I'll go into some other people that you were probably taught to hate. What do you think, Pete? We start with Pierpont. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the most interesting men that ever live for damn sure. Yes, he was. So John Pierpont Morgan was the great-grandson of Captain. Jack Morgan.

That's who Jack, his son, was named after. It was probably one of the, I guess, most notable, privateers after the Revolutionary War, saving countless white souls from enslavement on the Barbary Coast and the killer of many, many English sailors. You know him today. You are familiar with this man, or at least his likeness.

He is emblazoned on, well, the most popular rum bottle in the country. John Pierpont's Morgan, John Pierpont Morgan's granddad is that Captain Morgan. Yeah, like literally a pirate. a privateer. So John Morgan believed that he owed all of his success to America, and he firmly believed it. And this is something our elites don't get. Right. So how do I put this? A lot of the things that we associate with nobility, right? concept of no glasso liege and duty died in europe about 200 years before they died in the united states america was never supposed to have an aristocracy or like never had one you know officially but that's what these men viewed themselves as and if you have unlimited money all the

money in the world right and you never have to work a day in your life and you can have to have anything you want whenever you want it on the surface to regular people that sounds like the best life ever but it's not it's hell it's very depressing life it's a purposeless life so the one thing that we know about men is that man needs purpose he doesn't need sustenance like you can give him sustenus you can give it this is why communism never works all right he's You're basically in a... How does Thomas put it? You know, you're basically living in a prison-slash-retirement community,

just waiting to die. That's what would have been these people's lives if they didn't search for meaning in other places. And the thing that indexed the most with their soul was the nobility and aristocracy of Europe. And the traditions of the British aristocracy continued in America, far longer than they continued in England.

These men lived their lives around duty and honor. I mean, one of the most famous quotes, I think from J.P. Morgan, When asked if somebody could get a loan, you know, let me pull up the quote. It's really good. There we go. His quote about taxes is actually quite funny, too. Every American has the God-given right to evade taxes if he can get away with it.

No citizen has a moral obligation to assist in maintaining his own government unless my choice. Yeah. He's pretty pretty interesting guy. I don't care how much money a man has or how much credit.

He can have all of the silver in Christendom and he won't get a dollar from me. I'm sorry, he can have all the collateral in Christendom and he won't get a dollar from me. The reporter goes, really not if he had all the collateral in the world all the money in the world and he goes no sir the first thing is honor and the second thing was character and he believed it everybody he dealt with

right was basically on a handshake deal like there were contracts and stuff like for stock issuances and legal things right that had to be done but so much of i guess you can call it Pierpont's diplomacy was done entirely on reputation. So to him, that was enough. And this is really the problem he had with a certain group of people that kept on trying to barge their way into American finance, particularly one group of them that were financed by a certain banking interest that tried desperately to get in. and were relegated to stocks, right?

So being a stockbroker was not glamorous at all. So being a stockbroker would be what we would have as an equivalent as like people that trade crypto, right? Like that's where sketchy people go, right? That's like, you know, that's fly-by-night shit. Right? This is why the term speculator is an insult. Like, oh, you know, these people don't care about anything.

They're just speculators. That was basically how it was viewed. Banking was separate. Banking was legacy-based. And the wasps desperately, like to the last, defended banking. So banking in America was something that your family had to be in the country for 800 years or more to even get an apprenticeship in. You couldn't even be a career.

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Right. But if you were like, you know, I'm trying to think what's a, I can't believe I'm blanking. There's a, you know, any one of the top 20 law firms in the country, if you make a partner at any one of those, you're set for life. Because now you get a share of all the money that that firm makes. Right. Like you basically get a stipend for life. And that's how it was in banking. So being made a partner was like being knighted in America. And this is why almost to a man, the WASP aristocracy was in Drexel Bernard or Brown Brothers or Morgan Company. A partner in anyone. A partner in anyone. of those banks could pick up the phone and get any senator on the line whenever you wanted to

right like you were somebody at that point unfortunately it's not the same today but i uh i lost my train of oh yes yeah yeah j p morgan's super chad adventures so not a lot of people will know this but the united states well one of the the reasons that the United States has the reputation it has around its currency, right? Everyone thinks that, oh, the dollar is the world reserve currency and is the number one currency of the world because of the U.S. military. And if you don't use it, we'll just come fuck you up. Like that's true in the most extreme sense.

But that's not why people want to use it. It's not like we're forcing everybody to get their money into dollars. Literally, you can, the one thing that you will notice about any impoverished country that you get into, they, like, if you give them a dollar, like that shit is getting stuffed in their mattress, they view that dollar, you know, like it is made of gold. right so like the thing in russia the thing in china like people hoard physical american currency like their gold bars because it basically is and the reason i say that is because the united states of america is the only country in the history of the world that has never called in its currency And what that means is, I mean, like, England did this recently. Europe has done this.

The EU has been alive for a whopping, you know, 30 years. He's already to do it twice. France is fucking notorious for the shit. All right. Like, they will call in all of their notes and destroy them and issue you out new notes. All right. It's basically, you know, it's currency default. And the United States is the only nation in the history of the world.

to never have recalled its currency. There are even countries, you know, in the Middle Ages that had gold coins that would have to recall their currency. And you can dig a dollar out of the fucking ground in your backyard from 1799 and walk into a grocery store and buy something with it. Not that you can want to, but you could. It's also why America has never actually defaulted. on its debt. It's come close twice and technically it's come close three times but people don't know about the third time. It's also why they don't know how fucking Chad JPM fucking Morgan is. But it's never actually done it. So America is the world's reserve currency because we are the most dependable when it comes to money. And it's that dependability. knowing that it's always going to be there in 100 or 200 or 300 years from now like like that dollar you dug out of your backyard that is why people all over the world scramble to get their hands on physical dollars and you don't need to hold a gun to their head doesn't matter how many fucking missiles or aircraft carriers that you have they're going to do it all themselves and in 18 In 1990, America was on the verge of going bankrupt.

Like, it was happening. If nothing was done and nothing could be done from inside the government, America was going to be bankrupt in less than six months. And what John Pierpont Morgan did was bailed the entire country out himself. He put every single, thing he owned, every share of stock, everything.

He would have been homeless. And the guy had like fucking 12 homeless. And the first yacht, like the first mega yacht. The Corsair would have been gone to. He leveraged every single thing he had and he still didn't have enough. He was 12% short, right? Why was he doing it in the first?

first place. Well, because he believed it was his duty to do so. As a member of the unofficial aristocracy of America, these men believed they had a duty to the nation. And so how we got that other 12% is really interesting. Because there was a whole bunch of people that at this point in time had made a fortune trading stocks you know those people and those people didn't want to chip in a fucking dollar so your pawn held them hostage he lured them all all the um all the saturday people bankers onto his yacht the corsair full lunch and they're going to do a cruise around New York Harbor. But shortly after they pulled off, they didn't go anywhere near the harbor. They just went straight out into the ocean. And about two hours later, now land very, very, very far away.

Pierpont comes upstairs from a state room and says, all right, one of two things is going to happen. option A is you gentlemen are going to voluntarily come up between the, you know, at the point there's six of them, the six of you are going to come up with the other 12 percent to bail out the United States alongside my 90 percent or sorry, like my 88 percent. And if you don't want to do that, all of my money is liquid right now. right having collateralized everything that i own right basically borrowing against everything that he owned which he reminded them right these margin loans were extended by the by the brokerage firms that were sitting around the table from him at that very moment so he was like all right guys

I've leveraged everything I own and you guys have been nice enough to extend me right several multiples on that in credit so if you don't help me bail out the United States government I will take my 3x net worth that's all liquid

right and I will have the captain radio my man on the shore who will in turn tell my man at the stock exchange to begin shorting your stocks. And I will have bankrupted every single one of you by the time you ever get into port to warn anybody about it. And yes, the country will go out of business, we'll go bankrupt. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area

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What? I'll have no one to pay these margin loans back to because you'll all be out of business and then I'll made all that money shorting your stock all the way down to zero So I'm going to get my money to bail out the government one way or the other It's either whether you want to cooperate with me or you want to be put out of business by me and then me taking that money from putting you out of business and using that to bail out the government and having to put up none of my own. And what do you know? All of a sudden, a bunch of immigrants got real patriotic, real fucking quick. And that's why the U.S. has never defaulted on its debt. Thanks to the evil bad man, J.P. Morgan Chase. I'm sorry, J.P. Morgan and his company J.P. Morgan

Well, you know, somebody's going to jump, somebody's going to jump in and say, you know, he, he was one of the planners of the Federal Reserve, things like that. The Federal Reserve is actually a brilliant system. If you keep the currency pegged to gold, the Federal Reserve system was built to stop what arguably has caused every single. financial crash we've had. The Federal Reserve wasn't supposed to be omnipitude. It was supposed to be feudal in nature. Now the Federal Reserve is a monolith. The New York Fed and all of the other little tiny feds are a joke.

It may as well just be the New York Fed and one interest rate for the whole country. Well, that's not how it was laid out. A farmer in Iowa was never, ever supposed to be paying the same interest as a stockbroker on Wall Street. It became that way after FBR. So the Federal Reserve System that everyone and every stupid libertarian has been trained to hate worked an awful lot like how one Frederick List imagined such an institution working, right? It's not supposed to be monolithic. It was supposed to be decentralized and

offer decentralized interest rates. The only reason you've had the catastrophes we've had is because you're forcing a farmer in Iowa to pay the same cost of capital as a stockbroker in New York City. But there's a lot of things that Roosevelt destroyed. And this fascist coup, which we'll get into next time that was, you know, ruined by one communist general that everyone loves to lionize and a stupid faggot book, War is a racket. Now it's not a racket. This is, it's communist logic again. All right. We adopt the left's framing has been embedded so deeply into our paradigms, that even though we think ourselves right-wingers, we mouth their platitudes. War has nothing to do with money-making.

If money is made during war, okay. All right. But that's not what drives men to war. It has nothing to do with it. This is like that Rothschilder omnipotent type fucking people. Same thing. Politicians drag people to war, not bankers. And you'll also be surprised that the number one policy plank of this fascist takeover

and also of America First, which was bankrolled in its entirety by by Jack Morgan, by Henry Ford, by the DuPont family, and by our good, good friends, the Rockefellers. The number one issue was keeping America on the gold standard. And why would a bunch of evil bankers, if they're so evil, be campaigning to keep us on the gold standard? Why would, if everything that you believed is true about J.P. Morgan, about the Federal Reserve, and about all that, you would think that would be the last thing that they would walk, right? Because yeah, you know, Federal Reserve, and then we got Fiat's monies, and they took the gold away. Who took the gold away? Who did it? FDR did. the fucking class traitor FDR.

The entire New Deal, these guys viewed as a slow role communist takeover and purging of the power base of the WASP class. Let's look at what came out of the New Deal government. in rapid secession, the first term was the SEC Act and Glass Steeble. I'm not going to go into the intricacies of the banking business and what the banking business was at the time, but if you know that the Lossp aristocracy was the American banking industry, then you, like them, saw this as a direct attack against their class. All that, that whole war is a racket and that whole money trust bullshit was actually, in typical fashion, created in its entirety by one Randolph Burst. And who was that lovely gentleman that paid off all of Winston Churchill's debts?

Bernard Baruch. Who was Bernard Baruch a representative of? Rothschild and Company. So the guys that put the new dealers into power roughly at the exact same time

as they were pulling off a communist revolution in Russia, the very first thing that these men did once they got if you can call them that, once they got into power was attack the WASP aristocracy. In fact, the biggest critics of FDR were the Roosevelt family. Like the level of class traitor and family trader that FDR is barely understood.

And like, who are these men? Right. You and I got into a Twitter argument recently with a, I guess, a pastor. I guess he is a preacher of the dispensationalist kind. And you threw an insult at him that I didn't understand, but it seemed that it really pissed him off about the high church and low church. Are we talking about like pop-up churches, like these, you know, kind of like they look like Walmart super centers almost? The empty space next to the circle, Kay?

Yeah. That kind of thing, yeah. All right. So not those churches. The churches that are actually built of like granite, you know, and bricks, the permanent churches, the ones that look like fucking churches and cathedrals. Three quarters of those churches across the country were built by John D. Rockefeller because he felt it was his duty. All of those, literally every public library in the fucking country was built by Andrew Carnegie. The reason that life sucks the way it does today in the particular way that it does is because these men have.

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Availability subject location, new customers only, 12-month minimum terms, standard pricing thereafter, TV and broadband sold separately. Terms apply for more info.cise sky.a. slash beads. And their stories have been erased. So these men had nothing but history to turn to, right? There was no existing aristocracy that taught these men how to be noble. I mean, what was in England at the, you know, the 1800s was a joke, especially the latter half. 8th and I was a fucking joke. So these men

turned to history books. And they modeled themselves and their families off of the nobility, you know, that made the nobility famous. And the reason why are elites today, why are Elon Musk's,

why are Jeff Bezos is, we'll forget the fucking Jewish billionaires. I'm not talking about them the reason they don't act like these men is because they don't know these men existed outside of just you know the shibbolets you're allowed all right Elon Musk is never going to be like JP Morgan because if you were to tell him that he's being like JP Morgan he'd probably be he probably think you are insulting him right like everything Elon Don't must does cool. He's doing great stuff. But he's also doing business. Oh, he's sending them,

you know, people to space. Yeah. But he's also doing that because he wants people himself to go into space. John D. Rockefeller didn't build 2,000 churches, real churches for any other reason. Then he felt that it was his duty. Andrew Carnegie didn't build every, fucking public library in this country because he thought Americans should read good. Because he thought it was his duty, that that wealth came with a debt, that he owed it to someone. The reason that Grand Central Station is probably one of the years and years and years and years, went into the designing of the acoustics of Grand Central Station.

And there are places in Grand Central Station where you can stand in a corner. Grand Central, Pete, you've been to Grand Central Station. It's pretty fucking big, right? Many times. It's enormous, and yeah, I've done what you're talking about, yeah. Yeah, you can go into one... Pete can go into one side

of Grand Central Station, and I can go into the other side. And I can whisper, I can stand in a corner and I can whisper. And if Pete is also standing in the corner, even though he's on the other side of the fucking place, he can hear every word I'm saying like I'm standing right next to him. Even though there's fucking hundreds of thousands of people marching through that place at the same time, making a fuck ton of noise. Just the acoustic properties makes that building one of the most impressive buildings made in the last. 200 years and not to mention Pete for those of the listeners that haven't been to Grand Central Station is Grant Central Station beautiful it's it's unbelievable it's

yeah it's one of those things that stupid people okay let's say one of those people one of those people will be like oh why do you even build something like this well there's a reason and you build something like that. It's the same reason that you build, you know, that you build these gigantic churches. You see these churches in Europe that are, you know,

stretched to the sky and they take people's breath away. Because some people love God and one who, and one who glorify him, and others hate you. And that's the difference. That's the difference between architecture today and architecture in the past. The people that built Grand Central Station not only had their train car, their own train cars, but they had their own station.

Outside of christening the building, they never walked inside of it again. They wanted it that way. They wanted it to be beautiful because they thought Americans, while commuting all over the country, deserved to be in a place that was beautiful. And Elon Musk and Mark Andresen, as much good as these men are doing, Peter Thiel is doing, I don't see them doing that. I don't see anybody, any of our mega billionaires doing that because none of our mega billionaires think it's their duty. Cool. You get to go to space because I want to go to space. right so you get to you know hit your ride on they're already self-fish pursuits their cool pursuits

don't get me wrong but these men didn't operate that way and every single orphanage in new england was bankrupt in its entirety by either church which did the catholic ones but all of the Protestant ones were bankrupt by one of these men through whatever that local church was. Pierpont Morgan gave the equivalent of $70 million a year, just to the orphanages. The reason that we have beautiful concert halls is because these men build them, only maybe going inside once a year. The reason that we have beautiful art museums was because these men built them. The reason we have beautiful museums, period.

The Metropolitan Museum is beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful buildings in New York City. And these guys built it for free out of their pocket for you to enjoy because they felt it was their duty. And how did a bunch of bankers get involved in a veterans movement after World War I? because it was their duty.

Every, I don't know how to describe the level of shame that a family would have if all of their sons of age did not go fight in whatever fight that America was in. And I'm not talking about like what George W. Bush did going out in the Air National Guard. Right, like one third of the class of Harvard and Yale, Princeton got wiped the fuck out. None of those men, none of those young men,

would have had to fight if they didn't want to. Every single one of them could have called their senator that their dad put into office and gotten them a commission like FDR did. FDR was a figure just like George W. Bush doing the Air National Guard routine. right America's Air Force

in World War I was the aviation club of Yale, Harvard, and Princeton as in like aviation was in its earliest earliest days and was basically I don't know

not like a fad but it was the cool and exciting thing to do right if you were a young man this is the second in command at J.P. Morton and company. I'm trying to remember his name. But his son became a paralegic

because he was in the aviation club and they were doing an air show. And the planes at that time usually had two motors, one in the front, one of the back. And the motor in the back came loose and struck this young man in the head and he was paralyzed from the waist down. He still went on to be a, you know, a fucking Chad.

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East Guy.a slash speeds. Leaving school, they took, you know, took a year off for two years off, however many years they needed off, like they were in university, right, and temporarily dropped out and donated their planes to the American government and their bodies. And I think something like 20% came on, maybe. I don't see anybody, any, any senator's son going to fight today. I don't see any of Bill Gates' kids. He's got a bunch.

He's got five. I don't see any of these people that think that they're aristocrats. they think they are America's aristocracy, right, because of money. I don't see any of them sending their kids to fighting any of America's wars. It's kind of a joke that we all say. Like, how come Dick Cheney's kids, right? How come none of these warlongers are sending their sons? And the reason that America is in as many wars as it isn't is because,

precisely that this class of people were disenfranchised. They were the casualty of the New Deal government. The New Deal government was basically an attempt by Jews and by very willing participants and co-conspirators in the English financial industry. and they were specifically targeted at Bernard Baruch and Randall Hurst concocted one of like the first really good sciops called the money trust scandal and it wasn't a scandal at all it was entirely a media creation And these great men were dragged in front of Congress and harangued again and again and again by two Jewish congressmen who both turned out later to be members of the Communist Party.

And the person bankrolling them and the person providing the air cover in the press, one Bernard Baruch, the man who's long. largely responsible not only for Winston Churchill what happened in Germany in the Second World War, right? But the first attack on the Anglo-American aristocracy, all because we wouldn't let them in the banking industry. Right? Like John Morgan's number one rival in the world was Jakob Rothschild. He sends, Rothschild sent four separate different proxies. One of them, John Belmond.

And Pierpont sent them back penniless each and every time. And it wasn't until they saw their success with the communist movement, or the Bolsheviks. Did they really start getting politically aggressive? and everybody remembers well some of you may remember not remember right some of you may have come across in history um

Pete maybe you've talked about this but the anarchist bombings and the communist bombings in America the turn of the century are you talking about the Haymarket affair and things like that yep one of the biggest bombs

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all just wanted to bring down one specific capitalist, so much so that after the bombs didn't work. This is when, um, this is during the lead up to the coup attempt. All right. This is a, I think 29, 28. But a communist armed with two pistols, um, shot the gate guard at Jack Morgan's home and shot the butler. that answered the door and rounded up Jack's wife and two daughters. His sons were away at school and brought them into a back room.

He's by this time Jack Morgan figured out what was happening. He was in the study and ran up to the back bedroom where this man was hiding with his two children and his wife. And he said that he just wanted, you know, to talk to him to get, basically to get America to stop being mean to the Soviet Union. Yeah, this is not, this is this is 1920. So, um, yeah, this is all happening in 1920. You said start of the century and, um, it had, hey, market was, was, uh, 30 years before that. So we're, we're around 1920 now just for, uh, just everyone knows. The JP, you can go to 21 Wall Street and see the JP Morgan building and they refuse to fix the building from the bomb. So there is like you can literally see chunks taken out of the building from basically paving stones that were broken apart and turned into projectiles. It killed five people at J.P. Morgan. Yeah, this was in the 20s.

Let me check. I think it was 28. Wall Street bombing. Yep, 1920. And it was a good guess, Pete. That was a good guess. But, yeah, this gentleman said that he just wanted to talk and that Mr. Morgan was able to make the American government do whatever he wanted.

So he was going to basically do diplomacy by hostage. And Jack rushed him, beat the man into a coma while taking two revolver shots in one to the stomach and one into the inside of his thigh, almost died. But the good thing about being rich is you have a doctor that usually either lives in your property or, work goes by. And this happened in 1915, July 3rd. Yes. I'm looking that up right now. Yes.

And the gentleman that did it, I believe, correctly from wrong, was a crypto. His name was Eric Muntter. Yeah, well, he was under three different names. teaching at Harvard as a as a professor for a while. Yeah. Graduated University of Chicago, University of Kansas, began teaching as an instructor at Harvard University where he was a doctoral student.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, it was, he was a quote unquote German saboteur who went under the name of Frank Holt. I love my fellow whites You know he was a Jack was a big dude Right he was

He was 6-2 I actually both Morgans were 63 and 62 Right so they were not small dudes But yeah So Only Which is funny enough because

You had What's his name? How am I going to... I can't believe I'm blanking. He was the guy that funded a majority of the communist revolution. How am I blanking at his name? Jacob Schiff. Jacob Schiff, there you go.

Shift and company. Jacob Schiff lived right next door. Oh, it's actually shift just like the shift that we... The perma bear shift that we have to deal with today. I wonder if they're related. I'll look that up real quick. Keep going. That would be very, very interesting to know.

And for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, the communist revolution was funded in its entirety by two people. Yacob Rothschild and Mr. Jacob Schiff, and Mr. Jacob Schiff. And we, he was actually you that educated me on this, but a majority of the Bolsheviks were actually from like Brooklyn. Well, when Trotsky left New York, he got on a boat and I think he had 30, they had 30 men with him. Someone fact check me on that. I'm sure somebody will.

They always do. And they all made it to Russia. And they were all, yes, of a certain tribe. That's really funny. and Trotsky got, correct him wrong, but Trotsky got stopped in Canada by a Canadian police. Yep. And because of, you know, who controlled the crown at the time, he was released and let go.

Yep, with a hundred thousand. He was apprehended with a hundred thousand dollars in cash. Yep. I also think he had, I think he had, I think he had done. I think he had diamonds too. Oh, what is that in 1910? So what is that? 100,000.

Yeah, it's rather interesting when you start really getting into it. Yeah, so basically he had the equivalent of $3.5 million on his person. And the Bolsheviks didn't come to power through revolutionary prowess. They're actually incredibly disorganized, a bunch of fucking retards. But with that $100,000, they point. lot every single newspaper in Russia or in Moscow. And that's really where any communist clout came from. And so when wrong, by the way, just to just to clear this up,

Peter Schiff is not related to Jacob Schiff. Oh, Jacob Schiff, Jacob Schiff's dad, Peter Schiff's dad, Erwin Schiff, Erwin Schiff, who was a tax protester who died. in prison in 2015, his parents emigrated here from Poland around 1930. So, okay. Oh, thanks. I'm so glad they joined us. I'm so glad they came to America. That's funny. So in Trotsky's memoirs, he talks about

his exile from Russia the first time. So Lenin and Trotsky were both rounded up by the Ossetia. Is that how I'm saying? Am I saying quickly? I think that's how it's pronounced. I'm terrible. I think anyone who's listened to my reading, so I'm terrible at pronouncing foreign words.

Same. Same. So they got rounded up and thrown out of Russia. once and then they were basically airdropped in a second time which is the time that Pete and I are talking about but there was a space of about eight years in between those two right and where these guys they they chose to hang out in Germany briefly got booted out of Germany and then they went to Switzerland for a little bit got booted out of Switzerland and

And after that, they kind of go dark for like five years. And in Trotsky's memoirs. I think it's also in Lenin's too. But Lenin spent those five years in a villa in the south of France. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital. and shaping these plans.

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Please tell everyone. It was Lord Jacob Rothschilds. And Trotsky in his memoirs talks about. his time in Newport Road Island staying at what he called the magician's house and the magician would take him around him and his daughters in for automobile rise all over the city all over you know Providence and then also to the magician's house and in Long Island. And the magician would go, you know, into the city.

And Trotsky says he's like, the magician controlled all the wheels of finance and capital. And, you know, with his, with a move of his hand, all the wheels of industry would move one way. With another wheel of his hand or another wave of his hand, all the wheels of capital would move the other way, you know. And basically described this man as like a magician slash, chauffeur that would drive him and his daughters around places. That man was Jacob Schiff. So the reason nobody could find these communist stumbags is because arguably the, you know, three of the top five were just men on the planet that were not royalty of some

respect, of some, you know, respects were hiding them to use later as a weapon. Just like the new dealers were used as a weapon against a similar entrenched aristocracy that they wanted to remove. And Roosevelt was really a compromise. All right. Like I said, including his own family, nobody suspected what FDR would become, what he would do. Like the Roosevelt family, they weren't in banking that much. But if you go back and look at the newspapers of the time, hold on. Cat, what do you want? I find what you in?

Showed him who's boss. Your cat makes a lot of appearances on a podcast. I completely forgot where we were. Trotsky three men Trotsky was put they were basically put on a shelf

to be used later Yeah as weapons Just like the progressives were Used as weapons Or not the progressives The new dealers were used as weapons Against an entrenched aerosocracy You were like all the

All of the All of the legislation That came out of the new deals The new dealers first terms It is an attack. Like, there's very hard to see it any other way.

And if you look at who was doing it, because he needed help in Congress, it was the same Saturday folks that were dragging Jack and his dad before his dad passed in front of Congress for hearing after hearing about the fake money trust scandal. It was Randolph Hurd, and actually here let me um let me find out the commission the uh I'll get it to

you after the show what the congressman's name was it was two of them that were on the committee oh and um yes I remember it was a young Lewis Brandeis um huh that's huh wonder what church he went to something of Satan, I think. Lewis Brandeis would communicate with FDR. And the only place that I've really found this mentioned is both in the Dearborn Independent and in the Morgan Library and in some of the, some of the, he's called it the memoirs or biographies of the John Foster Dulles and, um,

Shit, I forget really, anyways, this was kind of like an open secret that Lewis Brandeis was giving basically marching orders through Messenger, his daughter, who, all right, let me see you and pull it up. Louis Brandeis Wow how is like How is their daughter like nowhere in here Susan and a Susan or Elizabeth I believe it was Susan Can you see who they're married to?

I will check right now One of them is going to be married To a very important new dealer Susan Brandeis Gilbert Oh, wait a minute, hold on. Susan Brandeis. Jacob Gilbert, Elizabeth Brandeis. Joseph Gilbert? Jacob H. Gilbert.

American lawyer, one. Who served six terms as a U.S. Senator or sorry, a U.S. House of Representatives member. Jacob H. Gilbert. Yeah, this guy served six terms in Congress. I said he was a big deal in the new dealers. And William Brandeis, scroll back, over here, in 1890 Brandeis began to question his views on American industrialism. He became aware of the growing number of giant companies, which were capable of dominating whole industries.

And he began to lose faith in the whole American capitalist economic system. And its ability to regulate and its need to be regulated for the public's welfare. As a result, he denounced cutthroat competition and worried about monopolies. He also became concerned about the plight of workers and was very sympathetic to the labor movement. Oh, really? Crusader for justice. I'll have to look at that later. His earlier battles had convinced him that concentrated economic power

could have a negative effect on a free society. Wow. Yeah. So Brandeis was then in the Supreme Court. They had four or five. Yeah, the money trust. They had four or five guys in prominent positions in the Congress. And I can't remember who the senators were.

But you've got the president, you got the Supreme Court, and you got the Senate. Brandeis was often referred to by the people as the people's lawyer. That's funny. Because all of the references for that are from press publications owned by one Mr. Hurst. Oh, okay. It was called the Pujo Committee, P-U-J-O. P-U-J-O.

Yep. Named after Arsaint, Pauline, Pujo for Louisiana. Oh, why does this guy's name always come up? Samuel Untermeier. Yeah. You know what else Samuel Intermire's responsible for? What? The Schofield Bible.

No, uh, keep the fuck out of here. Yeah. Yes. Then there was Hubert D. Stevens of Mississippi. Yeah. Oh, if you just Google, Samuel Untermeyer, pull up his Wikipedia page, there is a whole bunch of political caricatures of Mr. J.P. Morgan.

Yep. Wow. after every single, wow. Oh, and in case anybody was wondering what the early life is on Mr. Untermeier, it's what you think. Yep. And what he never talks about is who his law firms' clients were. He was later, after World War I, he became a top advisor. Why is a lawyer and advisor to the Treasury Department?

He's responsible for the income tax. It's very interesting. Corporate lawyer, advocate of stock market regulation, government ownership of railroad's various legal. Air grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are before. vital in shaping these plans.

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Untermeier also identified early as a Zionist and served as president of the Karen Hassad, the agency which the movement was then and is still conducted in America. How have I not heard about this? K-E-R-E-N-H-A-Y-E-S-O-D. In 1933, he founded the non-sectarian anti-Zion or anti-Nazi League in 1933. Oh, I wonder what the, the non-sectarian anti-Nazi League,

right, changed its mission to directly investigate. right-wing propaganda groups. Amongst them were the Christian front of Father Coughlin. Non-sectarian anti-Nazi League. Its mission was to directly investigate right-wing propaganda groups.

Among them were the Christian front of Father Coughlin. The Christian mobilizers of Joseph McWilliams. I'm going to check that out. The America First Party. And this group, this anti-Nazi League also began to support the civil rights movement. Oh, we are so shocked.

Yeah. And it filed its first lawsuit in 1945 against Columbia University to have its tax exempt status revoked for discriminating against who? Jews. Which is really interesting because that's where his son graduated from. I wouldn't doubt it. It was also instrumental in shutting down hate-based groups in Atlanta, Georgia, by hiring Stetson Kennedy, William Stetson Kennedy, to infiltrate these groups.

The League continued its investigation to expose activities throughout the 1950s, providing the FBI with intelligence about such right-wing neo-Nazi groups as National Resistance Party, Oh, wasn't that the party? That's National Renaissance Party. Sorry, National Renaissance Party, yeah. Yeah, Kurt Mettig. Yeah, and also, isn't that the one that, what's his name? The painter, Rockwell.

George Lincoln Rockwell? I'm not sure that he had, I'm not sure he had anything to do with this. I will look, though. Yep. Well, it says the party also endorse standard racist ideas as a, it maintains ties with other groups, including George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party. Yeah, it turns out this, this organization, the non-secular, the non-sectarian anti-Zionist League, when it shut down was right. It seems to just not get shut down at all, but folded into the ADL. I guess that's where they kept their really tight relationship with the FBI. Wow, we're doing research live, folks.

Listen to this one. The National Renaissance, which, unlike its political activities in New York, was widely influential in right-wing circles in the early 1950s, H. Keith Thompson and Frederick Weiss subsidized a larger-than-usual print run of an issue of the magazine containing an essay by Francis Parker Yaqui, entitled What is Behind the Hanging of the Eleven Jews in Prague on the Prague show trials of Rudolf Slansky and ten other Jewish members of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, which Yaqui had attended. Eustace Mullins, who Martin A. Lee called the NRP's self-proclaimed expert on the U.S. Federal Reserve

published his notorious article, Adolf Hitler, an appreciation in the journal as well. They were investigated by Hughak for possible prosecution under the Smith Act and no additional action was taken. Yeah, I guess that's what happens when communists try and bring something to fucking Joseph McCarthy. Probably not going to look into it. Oh, God. Yeah. The Lewis Dima bits, the gentleman that, uh, the gentleman that, uh, that married Brandeis' daughters?

Yes. Yeah. It turns out he started the conservative Judaism movement. Oh, well, that, I mean, that's just to teach us good

Judeo-Christian values, right? Yep. Wow, that's so fucking funny. All of this. I mean, it's amazing once you start digging deep into this, how all of it's connected. Yep. Wow. So the wife or sorry, the husband of Louis Brandeis.

I'm sorry, the husband of the daughter of Lewis Brandeis, the guy who was a courier for Mr. Brandeis into the Roosevelt administration. then goes and gets extremely active in conservative politics afterwards. I'm sure that was my accident. I'm sure he was 100%. Yeah, probably went into the wrong building. This is unreal. I didn't even know that part.

All right. Like Lewis Brandeis made his career off of going after. John Pierpont Morgan and the Morgan family and the Rockefeller family and the DuPont family. And it seems that his progeny was, you know, after they crushed the real American right wing, they inserted themselves into conservative politics at the same time as they're driving left-wind politics. It's almost like they're doing something. Yeah.

You could do a whole show on just Louis Brandeis. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Dev's versus United States. Wow, dude, this guy is unreal. doing it's amazing to watch uh i guess it's amazing to watch us do research in real time huh his final years of his career like the rest of the court he initially

commanded the untermire was um untermire was responsible for like getting like moody moody bible college to um pushing that moody bible college would take and start using the um The Schofield study bubble. And you have to wonder, why would, why would a Jew be so interested in that? I wonder. And the entire time as this dude is passing messages to FDR, he is openly saying that he's against the new dealers. Wasn't Louis Brandeis?

Wasn't, yeah, Lewis Brandeis was the guy. right that leaned on fdr to get who is that crazy secretary of state that he put in there that wanted to basically genocide all the germans oh um morganthau henry morganthau yeah morganthau yep wow henry morganthau came out of the same fucking law firm i mean wow all at the same time they kill i mean i got it credit we're credit is due is impressive right they're taking over the left they're completely disenfranchising and chate and like a like a face hugger taking over the american right at the same time as i bet you father kofflin scared the shit out of them oh you want to hear something even something that i'm

finding here on the puy the show committee okay so the resolution that that was picked up by Congressman Pujo, was introduced for a probe of Wall Street power by Charles Lindbergh, Sr. Can you imagine that he probably did this thinking there might be a problem here, we need to investigate it? Then all of these people... Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid,

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I think so. And funny enough, it was actually, not a lot of people know this, but I heard Thomas say it once on your show that the bankers and industrialists they didn't actually want war. They didn't like go start wars for money. And there's a lot of truth to that because in the Morgan archives, right,

they basically communicated. A lot of bankers did this like Rothschild had their own secret code. Everybody had their own secret code. So only until very recently did a lot of these banks open up their archives, right? They were obsessive about saving correspondence. But in the archives, here, let me pull it up. In line notes, too, yeah, wow.

So in the run-up to World War I, William Randolph Hearst and his bestest friends, in the papers, right after they got in the run-up to World War I, it was when all this money trust stuff started and the Pujo Committee started, basically kind of made it toxic to be associated with kind of lost Wall Street, politically. But during World War I, right when it initially started, it was actually Morgan and company that tried to stop World War I.

World War I by clandestinely, by clandestinely trying to stop the fighting between Turkey and the Baltic states in 1912, right? They, the only, the only really tool he had was to offer large loans to both sides in exchange to agree to US mediation to kind of catch the conflict when it was in its early stages. Because war is terrible to banking, right? Like what banking wants is stability. Banking wants everything to continue as, you know, it is going. Especially when you're banking at that level when you're making huge loans to, like,

German industry, British industry. Like if you were a big company, like that's been in business as long as Crupp has, right, that has got a whole bunch of government contracts and get great government relationships the same as like a lot of the British arms companies or the British shipping companies those are very safe companies to you know to give loans to those countries are going to be able to pay them off so the idea of one nation full of companies that you have that you lent money to trying to blow up another country full of companies that you lent money to like how does this benefit bankers like yes maybe they

made some money in like the u in investing in the u.s companies that were making arms and making other things but these men already own those fucking companies anyways so they this clandestine diplomacy was happening out of the same office in paris morden and hedges that will later come back to in the businessman's plot right so The, it was run by the head of Morgan, the head partner at Morgan and Hodges and the US ambassador to France, Myron Herrick. And Myron got both of these nations to sit down, or both of their ambassadors to sit down while the Morgan and Hodges partner with a letter from Pierpont was like, hey, here's a gigantic loan that you guys don't really have to pay. off if you both, you know, just agree to U.S. mediation. And unfortunately, they didn't bite.

But there's no reason for that to even have happened if JP Morgan wanted fucking World War I. Like it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Anyways, obviously they side the Brits once the world was forward. But they were kind of forced to choose at that point. They had way more loans to England than they did to Germany. I think this is right about the time we should probably wrap up and prepare for part two.

Yeah, then we'll get into the actual committee. Because luckily enough, the Senate did a investigatory committee into this attempted fascist coup. So it leaves us with a lot of first-hand evidence. So lucky us It's the McCormack committee MCC-O-R-M-A-C-K committee For any of you listeners at home That want to start digging into this

And have your fucking minds blown Before Pete and I You know, blow them in the next episode Yeah, the Looking it up right now And trying to find Trying to find a page on it but um the cormack committee yeah um the cormac dick steen committee 30 34 to 35 got it all right cool

yeah the the dickstein committee i wonder let me let me do an early life on mr dick steen i'm i'm sure that's not even i'm sure you don't even have to do that no out of curiosity I'm going to wow yeah I

Democratic congressman he played a key role in establishing the committee that became the House committee

which used which he used to attack fascists and Nazi sympathizers wow that's nice that's nice of him

him and Alan Weinstein. That's great. All right. Well, that'll be, we can, we put that out there as a teaser for next time. All right. Well, I'll, I'll make sure to link your, your Twitter in the, in the notes and everything. He was a, he was a, he was born to a, a Jewish family of five children from Russia. His dad was Rabbi Israel Dick Steed. Settled on the Lower East Side, public and private schools, city college of New York. Yeah, there was a time when that was one of the only colleges that Jews could get into in New York.

So it was CCNY. Yeah, CCNY, the joke used to be that it was circumcised citizens of New York. that's what they call the college. Oh man, back in a better time. But yeah. All right, man. I think next time we will have a lot of fun, you know, talking about that evil Nazi coup

that Mr. Dixstein luckily put a stop to. Thank goodness. Oh, man. Yeah. John and Mr. McCorm. Hormack is he was born in Boston, but his dad was a Canadian. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Really? They look to be very Mick, though. They, um, it looks like the Irish, the Irish runs deep in that family, so. I have to, I have to be honest. I can't just blame the Hughes for all this. Right. It was the, it was the Irish that were kind of. of like their men on the ground.

You know, the problem with organizing all of the workers of the world, they don't mean like, you know, cubicle workers. They meant like, you know, manual labor workers. Problem with, you know, this certain group of people trying to organize labor when they themselves are allergic to labor, like, you know, fatally allergic to labor, it's very difficult. You need help. and the Irishmen were more than happy to be the bridge into the labor that these certain people were too good to do themselves.

So I can't leave the Irish out of it. You fucking mix are just as guilty as they are. Guilty immigrants, all of you. You're all going back. I guess I'm going back too. where am I going where the hell am I going to do that all right then

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since there was a United States of. Like, where am I going to go? I actually have citizenship to another country. If I wanted to, I can reapply for it. I had it at one time. I let it lapse. I have to reapply. I can't step foot in that country because I've said stuff publicly that could get me thrown in jail in that country. Oh, that is quite the conundrum. A good way of at least getting your money out of the country is taking a flight to Singapore. I highly recommend anybody that is listening that has the means to do so, to do it. Singapore is a very brilliant country that, obviously, because it was, you know, created by such a noble man as Lekwant, you, who I think everyone that is interested in politics needs to study Lee Kuan Yew.

I think he might actually be one of the most brilliant political minds of the last 60, 70 years. And he's often overlooked, a very race realist. But in Singapore, they are very smart. And all the Singapore banks have branches in the international terminal of the airport. So you could fly to Singapore in like a layover somewhere else, right? Never even get your passport stamped as far as anybody knows. You were never even in Singapore, right? The same way as if like I have a layover in Germany, I never leave the international terminal.

I never went to Germany. But tons of Singapore banks. will happily set up accounts for you in that international terminal. Most of them won't even ask for docs. Find me another bank. Not only is it the only banks that ever find an international terminal in airport, but they're also the only ones that will take gold, physical on deposit. So, yeah, if you can, if you ever get your money out of the country,

you can do it. And once you have that account set up, you can wire from your account back home into it. And once it goes in, the U.S. can't get it back. So even though we can't go to Germany without getting arrested, or at least our money can go somewhere else.

All right. Well, until the next time, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Bye. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Kenynez show. Stormy is back for part two

talking about the quote, quote, Robert Barron's. How are you doing Stormy? I'm doing very well. I'm doing very well. Before we get started, Pete, yeah. What do you want to do? Housekeeping? Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So in the previous episode, I mentioned that Jack, no, sorry, John Pierpont Morgan's,

I think a great, great, great, no, great great great-grandfather. at that point in time, was the same as the rum bottle pirate. It's not necessarily the case. All he was is he was a very famous privateer during like the lead up to, he was doing sketchy stuff before the Revolutionary War was a privateer and then continued on being a privateer. I'm assuming in it, Was it the, when the U.S. had the problem with the Moors, so this was like still like what? The Barbary Pirates, there you go. There we go. So yeah. So he was a pirate named Morgan and a privateer named Morgan.

Whether or not that's the same Captain Morgan, probably not. I probably don't think that it is. I don't know the genealogy of the rum bottle guy. And was that from, was that from the House of Morgan book that that implied that? Yes. The House of Morgan first two chapters is about the, is about his, the, the Morgan family prior to John Pierpont. Right. So you had his, John Pierpont's dad, who I can't remember, I'm blanking on, which I think was just Pierpont. and then before him going back like two generations, three generations.

So it goes into very early Morgan history long before banking and long before Pierpont was selling American bonds to English investors. So this would still be like British financial primacy, both pre-revolutionary war and early after. And then so two generations, it goes back to like, yeah, it goes back to like, the mid-1600s Morgan family not doing too much it's you know the chapters are kind of quick in comparison but the rest of the information you know packed into the later chapters it's a 900-page tome but I say anybody that has the time to read it I really think you should

because it goes into after John died and Jack took over the bank had gotten so big I was talking to a mutual friend, a fantastic account to follow. He and I geek out about science and consciousness science all the time. We actually did a really popular, which I'm glad. I still find it, I still find it kind of like shocking that anybody like finds my private interests, like interesting. You know, I know people like professionally, I'm kind of used to like, like, you know, speaking at summits or whatever or conferences. So I know like my public, you know, professional ideas can sometimes be interesting.

But I still find it amazing that people find, like, the stuff I nerd out to privately of value. But he and I did a really great consciousness series on like the state of consciousness science and what the implications are. But he and I were talking about the peculiarities. of wasp patronage and why it's different than anything. So A, he called me because when I said in the last show that the European aristocracy had really been dead for 200 years. By the time, the revolution rolled around, and he very begrudgingly, you know, was calling it said, like, yeah, I think you're right.

really sad, but by the time this 1600s, 1700s, I guess it was more similar to what we have today as elites, just very unimpressive people that became, with few exceptions, but very, very vampiristic, and not the type of behavior that you and I were talking about on our first episode. And in talking about that, we touched on kind of the solo. You're not going to, like, I've never heard of something like this practiced in any other society or any other culture. But you see it throughout the American, you know, everything. aristocracy and it died out roughly around the same time as their power died out in the 60s was probably like the total disenfranchisement but by the 40s it was it was really well underway

but jack morgan the son of john peer pont by the time the second or the first world war wrapped up jp morgan and really wall street in its entirety had a few officially, like it wasn't in doubt anymore, right? The financial headquarters, the financial capital of the world was now New York. World War I ended England's financial, you know, primacy in the world. And the financial capital of capital was in America now. And all of a sudden, It became very important for J.P. Morgan, the institution, to,

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Get the facts be drinkaware, visit drinkaware.comer. And that was it. But a rapid expansion was needed before, for them to hold on to that primacy. So Jack ended up moving to England shortly after. These guys never really moved to any place, not to, you know, called them cosmopolitan, you know, ruthless cosmopolitans but these men you know had a estate in the UK usually and it wasn't just it wasn't just Jack Morgan a lot of these guys did right that they would spend the summer months because you know the hunting particularly bird hunting and

most importantly fox hunting was it was just the thing to do so these men would have places and you know in the city New York City a place in London in the city and then a country estate and usually another estate out in like the Hamptons or Newport Rhode Island but Jack would move to spend most of his time in his country estate he literally became like full-on country gentlemen like out of what you would imagine like downtown Abbey is all right like that's how you know live the rest of his life he would probably spend Only five or six months back in New York because this primary focus became the international operation of the bank. Right.

Like a lot of responsibility comes from primacy. And so the need for J.P. Morgan to have a footprint in Japan, which at this point was just rising and rapidly industrializing. Capital needed to be there. And in Shanghai. and in Brussels and in France and and and and that really dominated most of Jack's involvement for the rest of his life in J.P. Morgan. So U.S. operations was really where the core of the business was, right? you know, kind of like how all of our, even all of our corporate, you know, decisions are now

made in Washington, right? Like, you know, power kind of centralizes all by itself. So, the U.S. operations passed on to a guy by the name of Thomas Lamont. And Thomas Lamont is probably the, It probably doesn't sound like a very familiar name to anybody. But if you Google Thomas Lamont, you'll find out he's one of the most important people in the last, you know, from merely World War II onto his death, which I believe was in the 80s. All right. But the man who made J.P. Morgan kind of what it is today was Thomas Lamont. and not Jack Morgan. Right.

Jack, at this point in time, by the time World War II rolled around, Jack's entire interests were politics, particularly U.S. politics. You know, being in Europe and seeing what was happening in Europe. Just increase that even more. But I want to touch on this type of patronage

before we get into the business plot. Thomas Lamont was an orphan. right, a pauper. So not only did he have really no family to speak of, no, I think he had his father, who I believe died when he was, um, in a 12 or 10. And the family that Tom's father worked for, All right. This is another thing. So like, let's say you work for one of these men, right? Like you're their mechanic for their automobiles. Because back then, you know, you needed a mechanic because you probably had two cars. And if you didn't have a mechanic, there wouldn't be a guarantee that one of those two cars would be running at any given time. So if you wanted a car that you could drive, you know, whenever you wanted to,

that required a mechanic to guarantee. So whether you're the mechanic, whether you're the cobbler, right, you make the, you make one of these men's shoes, you're his tailor, right? You work closely with any of these men. And if something were to ever happen to you, right, this is before like Medicare, Medicaid, so security, life insurance was kind of a thing, but it was prohibitively expensive. really all of insurance was prohibitively expensive in that in that time whether it be shipping or otherwise there was no safety net for you right so if you're the son of a mechanic and your dad dies

your mom is basically going to be on the streets and the rest of your life is going to look like just abject horror right and what only the one Only the was aristocracy made a point of doing is whenever something like that would happen, right? Anyone that worked for the family in any capacity, if something were to happen, they felt it was their duty to house, whether she, you know, whether, you know, your, the mechanic's wife, you know, your mom in this hypothetical scenario, got moved into one of the guest homes. or the maids quarters, whether that be a separate house on the property or inside the main house. And you would be sent to boarding school. These people, it's really a shame. These men believe that it was their duty to ensure that you were educated to like the highest degree.

right because you were basically their responsibility right so if you're going to be their responsibility you are in one way shape or form a representation of their of them of their mag of who they are as a man right so like the reason why you treat your wife nicely or your girlfriend very nicely the reason why you want her to dress very nicely be presentable, why you want everyone to treat her very, very well when she goes out, is because she is a representation of you. She is your proxy. So if somebody disrespects her, they're disrespecting you, right? And how she appears and how she carries herself is a representation, is a representation of you, right, how your house looks. If your house is a fucking mess, nobody's going to

respect you. Like, your home, your family, your wife, these are all a man's proxies, right, like his avatars. Wherever they go, they will always be a representation of him, the man. And these men viewed that, that boundary layer much further out than we, do. So if you were in the employ of one of these men and God forbid something happened to you, they would take, you know, that man's children as their responsibility, not their children, right? They're not adopting them, right? But they're taking them on because it was their duty. Right? This man worked for me. He was under my employee. and now something terrible has happened to him. It is my job as a man to make sure that his

kids have at least every opportunity. Whatever the children do with the opportunities, right? That's no reflection on you, but them being denied those opportunities is a reflection on you. You send the child of your mechanic, your former deceased mechanic. You send him to the same boarding schools that you send your children to because that's the type of person you are. Not only are your sons, it's expected that your sons would go to this boarding school, but you are sending that young man to the same boarding school, which means you're basically telling something to the world.

They're telling the world that they have not shirked their duty, which is, which is, which is really like the defining characteristic of these, you know, how they oriented themselves in the world. So Tom Lamont was one of those kids. And this is what the WASP aristocracy did that no other aristocracy did. You, it was a type of eugenics. And the entire, like, defining criteria was character. And you see character. talked about all the time. If you read anything, any of the correspondence of any of these men, whether it be Rockefeller, whether it be Carnegie, whether it be DuPont, any of the DuPont brothers, they talk about character so much, right? And character is, you know, everybody talks about

like how based, you know, how base the national socialists were, you know, that, you know, they understood the importance of eugenics. Where did they get that? understanding of eugenics from Pete? The progressive movement in the United States, basically. Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, yeah. I would say it's not the progressive movement. I mean, John D. Rockefeller wasn't a progressive,

and he was the guy that endowed all of the institutes. But they were sorting for care. They were doing eugenics, but they were sorting for character. If you look at like all of the genetic or the eugenics discussions at the time, they weren't trying to like root out who is going to be like the weakest or who is going to be the most frail or who is going to be the strongest and the best looking. That's not what they were sorting for. They were sorting for character.

Right. It's impossible to miss if you're looking at any of the dialogue on eugenics of the time. right like oh well you know this is a lot like you know these people these people you know can't reproduce because if you look you know both of the parents are criminals or the mother is an alcoholic and the father is a criminal the children of this union will only have poor character so character was a defining thing for the aristocracy of America And when they would give out this patronage, when they take responsibility for these kids,

and they would do it a lot. Like, you could find, it would take you not too much searching, but you could find that you would find out that John D. Rockefeller probably did that, he probably put 40 kids through private school that other than his children, the DuPonts even more, the Morgans. this was how they brought new blood into the aristocracy. When anyone, somebody was, when someone was in their service and something bad happened to that person, they would take the children and give the children the same opportunities that their children had. And they would see.

They would sit and wait. And if the person was of good character, the same opportunities, you know, later on in life, would be provided to them. Right, that's how you get to be Tom Lamont, you know, orphan kid going to the nicest prep school in America because who your dad worked for. Were you aware that his great-grandson,

Ned, is the governor of Connecticut? No, that is right now. Yes. Oh, that's so upsetting. That's so upsetting. one of the things I resent the most is not being able to live in New England anymore. I grew up in Connecticut. Like I had probably the most idyllic childhood anyone could ever have.

I've done a beautiful old stone house. Fucking almost a mile long driveway to a nice gate with big stone wall. And the stone wall ended up. ended in two pillars with lamp posts. I don't get to live there anymore because the city governments and the state governments can't stop borrowing money. And the interest on that money is literally making them insolvent. So my friends that still live there, their property taxes are roughly about as much as their mortgage, except for they're never going to be able to pay off their property taxes, and unlike their mortgage that stays roughly the same, their property taxes

double pretty much every five years. So either their money doubles every five years, which it doesn't. Eventually, every town in Connecticut is going to be the largest property owners in Connecticut are going to be, you know, the towns themselves. So, yeah, that and, how they are intent on, you know, running the country. Like, it drives me nuts that I can't even live in New England. Like, the only, New England's the prettiest place in the entire country. Like, sorry, you know, out west bros and sorry Montana bros and sorry Wyoming bros. Rural New England is the prettiest place in the entire continental United States.

It just is. And it's the only place with history. Right. Like, you're not going to be walking through the woods in Wyoming. Anyway, yeah, it just gets more angry. I think Virginia, I think Virginia Bros will have a, have a fit if you say it's the only place it has history. Yeah, but we also have, yeah, but Virginia Bros don't get fall, like New England gets fall. So they are as pretty, 75% of the time.

Actually, like, yeah, 75% of the time. But then, like, you know, when fall comes around, we kind of edge our way up. out in front. And I'm sure they would be willing to concede that. I will concede their springs are probably prettier than ours because they get warmer faster. But yeah, also another place that's been equally destroyed. So I find it really, really funny that that guy, especially with that name, is now presiding over it. Like just the absolute destruction of the moral compass of the boomer generation astounds me. Anyways, getting getting off track, I do that a lot. But it was a type of patronage that I think that we should, obviously I don't think we should be

putting strangers' kids through college or to school. But I think that this is something that all of us can do, right? If you, I think if somebody loses their job in our thing, I think it's every one of our duties to try and help that person find a new job. Like at bare minimum. I mean, I just released an episode this week, today, myself and not me, not you from OGC. He was on the ground in North Carolina for the past. He was there after the, try to help with the relief efforts and everything. And, you know, one of the things he said at the end was,

He said, young guys who think you, you know, you're missing out on adventure, go there right now. People need help. There are people who are willing to help. The means are there. You can click up with people in the old glory club who are on the ground right now. Go do it. And we owe it. We owe it to these people to do it.

How many people took them up on that? I mean, I just released the episode. So I released like three hours ago. Oh, okay. I missed that first part. Yeah, I strongly encourage anybody that's listening to this to go then listen to that episode. And just we need to be better because we used to be better.

And we're really good at making excuses. And I think that's what much, like, I think that's one of the biggest crutches of our time is that we've gotten so much better. And there's so many, like, little things that take. take away your time or could consume your time, whatever, that we've gotten really good at coming up with excuses or the excuses are provided to us for why we don't do things that we know we should. So I know there's a couple guys in the, you know, our thing that, you know, I've tried to

employ, sorry, not personally, but make sure that they are introduced to people that will give them a career that they want. or a career that I think that they would be very foolish to not take. And if you're listening to this and you're in a similar position, that needs to be something you do. If something bad happens to somebody, not just in our thing, if you're listening to this, you have a responsibility to be better than everybody else.

And not like in the way that all the people in our, that some people in our thing, LARP as aristocrats, as disenfranchised aristocrats, there's nothing, that, the way the term has been kind of bandered around, or sorry, batted about in our things is really kind of like how, you know, the way people in our thing view aristocracy or nobility is really no different than how a, um, I don't know, how a drug dealer views wealth. Right. There's a term I want to use, but I know this is probably going to go on YouTube, so I won't use it.

But it is, it's N-word rich. And we have a similar concept of nobility and aristocracy. If we go back in time, what did men? Men of means think of nobility. Well, they didn't think it was about being better than anybody else, right? You don't build 2,000 churches, 3,000 churches because you're better than everybody else. You don't build every public library in the nation because you're better than everybody else. You build them because you want everybody else to be better.

just period better, which means that you wouldn't be so much better than them. Right? If your whole identity is being better than everybody else, the last thing that you would want to do is to give people the means, people that you viewed beneath you, the means to self-actualization to be better. In fact, that is your duty. That's what nobility is really all about. It's about those four letters. So whether it's go to North Carolina and help out, I apologize.

That was very rude. I put my phone on silent. I thought I already did that. It's your duty to go to North Carolina if you can and help out. It's your duty to help get one of our guys a job when he gets docs, laid off. It's your duty to help chip in if some unforeseen and regrettable medical thing happens to one of our guys or just someone you know, right, and they don't have insurance. Like, we shirked so much of our duty to our fellow people and we view it like, oh, well, you know, sometimes it's tied up

like religious things, but it's just, it's not. Like charity can and is part of, you know, the Christian faith. But that's also just what you should do if you look like me and you look like Pete. That's your responsibility. And I think that's probably the thing, that's the most regrettable. things that we've lost. I think that one's the worst. Yeah, the whole idea of like when we, when we had our event, the old glory club had our event, you know, it's suit, it's jacket and tie the whole time, the whole time. The old glory club here in Alabama, when we meet, it's at least jacket. And there's

a reason for that. And I think a lot of people don't don't understand just exactly how casual. And that word has many meanings and can be taken many ways we become about the way we carry

ourselves. Yes. Yes. How we speak. How we dress. We're wearing a jacket. Waring a jacket makes it a lot easier to It's a hide a weapon too. So there is, you can actually hide a weapon and several reloads.

You can get at least a couple of bags in and probably a PCC, depending on how chunky you are. If anybody is listening that doesn't have the capital for like a nice suit or a nice suit jacket, I want you to DM me. If you do have the capital and you lie about it to get some really, really, really sick, you know, dress attire, you'll have to live with that for the rest of your life. I don't know what that's going to be like, but I can't imagine it's great. Well, you would hope that somebody's conscience would be clear. Exactly. Yeah, you would hope that, yeah, you'd hope we're dealing with quality people.

people here. And I know we are. So let's, uh, yeah, very high quality men. All right. So let's talk a little bit about, uh, the specter of fascism in America. Let's do that. Yeah, yeah. So the organization that the business plot was, um, was done that under right? Like what the official organization was. was something called the American Liberty League. And I know we touched a little bit on it at the end of last episode. And I'm probably going to have to do some house cleaning again on the next one. I make broad strokes.

So just salt the taste. But if I were to say right-wing fascist and then I were to say Huey Long, would you think those things are diametrically opposed? or simplest. I have no, I have no issue with, uh, the term right wing fascist and Huey Long being in the same sentence.

Well, they were. So Mr. Mr. Huey Long was a very avid, so this is a, this is a, this is a bigger thing. I can,

and getting just Huey Long. and what his role in this was. But his presence kind of, it points to a larger trend about what was going on, or what these men thought was going on, right? Because what is fascism? Why does Mussolvini's Italy and how his government functions? and Hitler's Germany and how the Reich functioned and Franco's Spain and how that government functioned.

If I were to try and draw parallels, I would be, I'd be in big trouble because if fascism is a type of governance structure, how come all the fascist governments are different? Right. Like if, you know, Mussolini and Franco are the same thing, right, like how Mao Zedong and, you know, Stalin are supposedly, are the same thing. They're both communists, right? Well, their governments function almost identically. They even have the same names for the same shit. But I'd be hard pressed to find really any parallels between any of the so-called fascist. nations. The only parallel that I can find, the only commonality between any of them, all of them, is that they came about as an immune response to communist revolution. That's the only commonality they have, that their nations were undergoing a communist revolution. And these were the men that were organized and capable of fighting against it and pushing back against it to protect their, A, their nation, and B, all of the citizens in there, even the reluctant

lefty ones. That's the only commonality. So is the U.S. and the attempted fascism, is that any different? And I would argue, no, it's not. And we joke about what was, you know, we joke about FDR, we joke about the New Deal. We've got a million commie jokes. And the Venona cables proved that there were, in fact, a lot of commies in the Roosevelt government and many of the government subsequent.

But what did the men at the time think? And why were they so scared? Because they were scared of something, right? Or else, Huey Long, John J. Braskin, the founder and chaired, of General Motors, a longtime Democrat and DNC supporter. I believe at one time he was co-chair of the DNC. He actually was head of the committee that got FDR elected. So what the fuck is he doing in the American Liberty League?

And why is he so scared about what's happening with FDR? Or what about Al Smith? Al Smith's a very interesting man. He was the chairman of the DNC at the time that FDR got elected. He was actually the Democrat candidate for president, the election cycle prior. Like, you couldn't get more on the same team as FDR. But somehow, now John J. Raskin and Al Smith, long-time governor of New York and chairman of the Democrat Party, and these guys and Hughie Long are on the same team as Irie DuPont and Pierre DuPont. Iry DuPont.

I mean, this guy funded every... every extremist right-wing political movement in America, his entire lifetime. Since he was like 14, he's basically the polar opposite to John Raskin and Al Smith. And Huey Long got famous for fighting standard oil and taking a percentage of those oil profits at the great state of Louisiana. was making and giving it to some of the people in Louisiana, right? Standard oil tried sending people to beat him into a coma or kill him. I don't think I actually kill him, but, you know, beat the hell out of him. And he fought standard oil for years.

Like he was enemy number one on John Rockefeller's list for better part. to half a decade. So why is Hughie Long on the American Liberty League with John D. Rockefeller? At that time, very old. So the Rockefeller boys at this point.

He was either, he'd either just passed, but the Rockefeller boys. I don't want to have to do more house cleaning next time. Why are these men? Why is John Raskin on the same team as Henry Ford? and Pierpont Morgan.

Again, why is the chairman of General Motors on the same team as the founder chairman of Ford? What were these men afraid of? Because they were afraid of something. Because outside of the American Liberty League, these men, I would be surprised if any of them bumped into each other on the street, a fight would ensue. With Huey Long, I guarantee it. So what made these men come together? There is a speech that, Pete, I sent you this morning,

that I came across that just kind of, I'm going to read the last couple pages, or sorry, the last couple paragraphs, they're short. There we go. Here we go. Now, in conclusion, let me give this solemn warning. There can be one capital. It is either Washington or Moscow.

There can be only one atmosphere of governance. The clear, the pure, the fresh, free air of America, or the foul breadth of communist Russia. There can be only one flag. the stars and the stripes or the red flag of the godless Soviet Union. There can be only one national anthem. The star-spangled banner or the Internationale. And there can be only one victor. If the Constitution wins, we win.

But if the Constitution... Stop. Damn, he's really good. Stop. Stop. there. The Constitution can't lose. The fact is, it is already won, but the news has not reached certain ears. And this was from the first meeting of the American Liberty League in 1932. This is from, I found this in a cycle teaching American history. It's like a progressive like, I guess if you want some progressive college, like for a law degree, like this is where you go for additional resources. But here's the study questions. In what way does Smith believe that the Democrat, sorry, the Democratic administration he helped put into office as the chair of the DNC has not been faithful to the Democrat Party's platform of 1932?

Why does he think the New Deal is somehow Russian Bolshevism and in league with the Soviet Union? And what is he calling his fellow Democrats and Republicans to do? It's a study question. I mean, anybody that needs it as a study question, just read what I read. I don't, if that's a question to you, I don't think you've got a very prominent career in law ahead of you. And what does Smith's critique of the New Deal compare to that of Herbert Hoover in his speech this challenge to liberty? And how does it compare to the criticisms of one Huey Long in his speech, a statement on the share? of our wealth society.

And Father Cochlin, a third party. A challenge of liberty by whoever was written in 1936. Huey Long's speech, December of 1935. And Father Cochland's A Third Party in 1936. What the fuck does Al Smith a Catholic and an Irishman, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, former Democratic presidential candidate,

Herbert Hoover, the previous president, Republican, Huey Long, like, Hughie Long is just Huey Long. He's, like, you can't even call him, like, a member of a party. Like, he was a political force in and of himself. and he ran the state of Louisiana that way. What did he we long, Al Smith, Herbert Hoover, and Father Coughlin have in common. Father Cawley, really? Yeah, you got it.

Yeah, strange bedfellows, right? I mean, it's a good question. And, you know, I think maybe even a better question at this point is, well what why don't we learn about this in school right like this i mean you want to talk about bipartisanship right like if this isn't a guy this isn't unity i don't know what is and what force was so strong that jack morgan nap rockefeller john braskin iri and pierre dupont Al Smith, Huey Long,

Father Conklin, Henry Ford. Like, what's more powerful than that? When you have the head, yeah, when you have the head of Ford Motor Company and the head of GM coming together to agree on something? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah, and this wasn't them coming together to be, it's a plot to be like, oh, you know, let's, let's corner the market. on this and everything, no matter what Tucker wanted to say, you know, 10 years after this, 15 years after this. No, this was something different. These members were scared.

Where is my ancient Greek history bros right now? Because I'm pretty sure this is exactly what all the Greek city states had to do. They didn't take a break from killing each other when Zerk City showed up. Go ahead, Pete. Sorry. Well, yeah, I was going to say, when obviously, when you look at this, you realize that this is a movement

that the people who they were going against realized had power, had money behind it, had influence behind it, and then you, you, well, what's one way to just put a bullet in this? We've been attacked. We have to go to war. if you don't all come together now, well, you're, I guess you're anti-American. I guess you're on the side of the Japanese or you're on the side, you're on the side of the

Germans and, well, well, you know, or they could have said you're on the side of the Soviets, but no, they took the side of the Soviets, but no, had to start not only, you know, he had to start a two theater war. You just have two wars going on just to stop this and just to show. shut them up. And then after the war, what do you have? You have the greatest propaganda campaign

of all time, which basically makes these men criminals. Monsters. Yep. Like if you think that these men were anything like how they were portrayed, just monster capitalists

that only cared about money, you don't know anything about money. I'm not saying that I do, but I have lived a rather charmed life so far. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, so I'm going to add that caveat in there. And I wouldn't be angry if I did. But one thing I have been able to observe

both a change in, myself as I became more successful and also from observing those who had more success than a one person could, could possibly ask God for and not feel like they were sinning. Those people, people that have money that can't be spent, right? If you have, let's say, $50 billion. dollars, at a reasonable, reasonable rate of return. And this is what lefties don't understand about money, is how interest works. And so let's say we have $50 billion.

$1, 2, 3, $5 million, 1, 2, 3, 5 billion times 0.1,000. So if you have 50 billion, let's say the first year you act like an absolute maniac. You don't just buy one jet. You buy three. I did 150 million a pop, sometimes more depending. They start at 150. And you buy not one house, but you buy five. One in every place you like going.

Right. One for every season plus a bonus one. Maybe and you buy palatial estates say 30 to 50 million. Right. So what is that? I'm up to three, four and a half. So 450 million plus another hundred million in five houses. So I'm like 550 million.

What else Pete? What else do we need to buy? What could you possibly think of? Maybe a yacht, a mega yacht. What do you want? Mega yacht. Okay, let's say, yeah, I don't like boats all that much. I'm a very bad wasp.

I don't go sailing. I don't know how to sail. And I'm terrible at golf. So, like, all of my wasp credentials, like, it's a good thing. I'm very well read. And I speak well because all of my other wasp credentials, like, it's pretty rough. Let's say you buy another, but you buy a mega boat, 150 million, which I think is roughly what Bezos spent on A. No, he spent 200 million.

Let's just say 200 million. Fuck it. We're only 750 million in. We haven't even cracked our first billion yet. We haven't even cracked a billion dollars yet. So that 50 billion dollars, that earns an interest every year. At a reasonable rate of return, 10%. Right.

I mean, honestly, ultra low risk, you'd probably do pull 5%. But you're going to have to pull 10 now because you're losing 5 to inflation. Sorry, butts. That's $500 million a year. So the crazy spending spree

that we just talked about, you would have to do that every year. You can't. You couldn't. It would take you, you know, weeks and weeks and weeks just to pick out the different leathers on one of the planes let alone three right you're like three months in just in specking jets not not even including the you know the homes then the boat god the fucking boat every single thing thank you you know you see and or

touch on a boat you get to pick like you couldn't spend the money fast enough so you are earning more money than it is humanly possible to spend. And you're not even touching the principle. So that 50 million or 50 billion is never getting spent. And if you spent, it would take every day of your life to do nothing but try and figure out new ways, creative ways to spend money. And you still wouldn't even be able to burn through half a billion a year. Good God.

So these people, to think that these people, to think that these. people care about money do things for money even talk about money any there's a there's a good rule my dad taught it to me and hopefully god willing i will teach it to my son because it's served me very well in life anybody that talks about money doesn't fucking have any so to think that any of these men did anything because of money to make more money, you simply don't understand wealth. What motivates these men, if I could think of any remotely tangential, or sorry, tangential motivator that had anything to do with money would be capital preservation.

You could probably get these guys to do stuff to protect what they already have. But if you think they're going to do, you know, political machinations that could end them up in jail or hurt their legacy, tarnish their reputation. These men valued reputation and standing far more than they valued money. And so would you. I know it sounds ridiculous. It sounds ridiculous to you. But if you're the guy that is in, you know, in that hypothetical situation, that I had to fucking pull out my calculator for because I'm retarded.

If you're that guy, he doesn't care about money. He probably cares a hell of a lot more about what people think of him, how he's perceived than some investment or a chance to make more money that what he can't spend. So when you look at these guys like Elon, right, and Greece. and feel. You think money motivates them? You're nuts.

You don't understand money. Granted, I wish that they would take a page out of the book of the great men that came before them because now all they are is just nerds with money. That makes me sad. You know, Elon wants to go to Mars because he wants to go to Mars. Not because he wants humanity to be a spacefaring nation. or America, you know, to dominate Mars as our next. Like, he, that is tertiary maybe.

He wants to go to space because Elon Musk wants to go to space. So the one thing that I wish that our rich nerds would look back in time and see, and I understand why they haven't, because the history of these men, what these men were really like has been hidden. The only reason I know about it is because these are family stories. Like, Pete, you know a bit about me and my private life. This is relevant to me. And that's why I know it.

So I can't get angry at anybody for not knowing what these men were actually like when everything that's written about them is a fucking lie. But now that we're starting to clear up the record, right, looking back with clear eyes and sound judgment and a level of discernment that we did not previously have until certain ethnocentric machinations were revealed to us. However, I mean, we each got here different ways. But now that we have, we need to hold our elite to a higher standard because if you have $50 billion.

It's not about you anymore. Back to that four-letter word. That is the founding, the central pillar of our society. We live in the house built for us by better men. We just fucking live here.

We didn't build it. They did. We just get to hang out in it. And stop people from tearing it down. But when we compare ourselves to them, these men, our elites don't stack up that great. Our rich men are just rich men. And that's sad. So I hope that they familiarize themselves with these great men who've been slandered to just an insane degree and how much they've been slandered should tell you a lot about how great they were. I don't want Musk to

build a public library in every town like Andrew Carnegie did. I don't want Peter Thiel to build 2,500 churches in every city in America, because that's already been done. But I want them to look, sorry, I suck at swallowing today. I want them to look at these men for inspiration to do something different. I mean, dare I say better, it'll be hard to do, you know, one-up these guys. But it's a worldly pursuit. And I bet you America, in the state it is now, if you look at how it's embraced Donald Trump, we are desperate.

Desperate doesn't, like, it almost isn't like a strong enough word, but we are desperate for nobility. And if you look back in the time that this was happening, America loved these men. You can be a rich nerd, cool, like nobody knows you. This is why you're scared of dying. You're throwing millions and millions and millions of dollars into biotech research to squeeze days and days of more life because you're scared of dying. If you know you're going to be remembered and loved,

like for what? Like it's 200 years almost and we're still talking about it. A hundred years and we're still talking to these men we'll be talking about it for another 100 more. Like you're immortal. You don't have to be like that guy who's like sticking his dick in a freezer. Right. Whatever his name is. Something Johnson.

A fitting name. Right. For a guy trying to reverse his age. Fucking hubris. The pride. But really all it is is just he's scared of dying. Probably be. because he's going to have to meet God.

And when that happens, he's going to have to tell him what he did with the most precious gift that he was given. And he won't have much to say. This is part of the reason and a lot of the reason. I would say probably if you really want to look back on of the majority of the reason that you're not allowed

to live historically anymore, that you're not allowed to live historically anymore. you're not allowed to, I mean, if you're not allowed to, if you're dissuaded, if you're told it's wrong to look upon your ancestors and have pride in them and know and celebrate their accomplishments, how much less are the accomplishments of people, you know, you don't know. So it's just a, it's just another mechanism for destroying our civilization. and destroying what came before us, making us believe that everything that happened back at this time,

oh, this was such a terrible time to live. There were these people who all they wanted to do was get rich, and they would do anything to gain wealth and gain power. And then when you look and you find out that they saw what was coming down the line, they saw, you know, the takeover by a foreign entity. and they tried to do everything they could to stop it. And it was only because of, you know, a soldier who, you know, killed Haitians and, you know, actually in the field serves his country well from everything

I've read. But when it came down to it, he was a fucking commie. Yeah. And he sided with the commies. You know, it's funny is that a rare bit of justice was served. He lived to regret it. He lived to see it. The thing that Smithy Butler was so desperately afraid of

was World War I happening again. And the very man that he betrayed to FDR were trying to stop the thing that he was so afraid of. And he sacrificed all those men. Right. What happened to Father Cochlin? What happened to Henry Ford? Right. These men were killed, right? Just like the guy freezing his dick off right now. He's scared of dying because he doesn't have a legacy. He's never going to have immortality. So they killed these men's memories off, which I think is far worse.

And Huey Long, they killed. They assassinated. A tribesman assassinated him. There is a, without talking to myself, I think I've told you this, Pete, but there is a very widely shared suspicion and rumor in my family that a similar man of a similar time, a similar mission, was also killed. There was a lot of killing, I think, that was done in the lead-up to World War II to make it happen. I think it's no different than what we saw in the 60s. Right? If these people are willing to kill to keep that little place, we have to assume that they were willing to kill to get it.

And Smedley Butler got to live long enough to try and give speeches against FDR once the man did what he because remember like FDR was campaigning on not taking just like fucking Wilson campaigning on what was Wilson's campaign speech I will not be sending our board or his campaign slogan like we won't be sending our boys off to some war right his his re-election thing was Wilson, he kept us out of war for his first term. But what he didn't tell everybody is that he was already planning and getting us into it. He just needed his second term. And that's what FDR did.

So the man that Smedley Butler saved and betrayed men that trusted him, he saved because he bought that FDR actually wanted to keep. us out of war. And less than two years after he did it, after he betrayed all these men, he lived to see that they were right and that he was wrong. So I don't know what Smedley Butler's death was like, but I can't imagine it was good. Because I believe, like, at the point that you're dying, right, as that's happening, kind of the veil things between our world, than theirs. And from what I've heard, from what I've read in accounts, that how a man, like, you know, if a man lives a certain way when he dies, you know, his flesh will be,

will begin to be clawed at before he actually passes. This is why some men die screaming. And if you live a different way, that doesn't happen to you. In fact, the opposite. that happens to you. There are those that die smiling and calm and happy, content. And I don't think he was content when he died because hundreds of thousands of American boys were being turned into mulch because of him. America would never be the same again. It would be, you don't know, trying to think of a...

better word than, you know, like the body snatchers. But that's what happened. All because of him. And it was pride. If you read and encourage everyone to, after Smendley Butler gave his testimony to the Senate, he did a public announcement kind of like Roosevelt's fireside chat, the TV and the radio was just like a thing. and it's recorded it's really good at least the recording quality

this is really good and you basically see this man so proud of himself for what he did and like you could just you could just see this man this he was fucking smug

like I did this because I'm a great American and da da da da da da da da da da da It just smacks of pride. It's really kind of painful to watch. And anyways, he thought that it was his, you know, he was saving the country by turning in these traders. It was like, you know, it all hinged on him. It turns out he was the one that handed the country over to monsters,

the monsters that these men were terrified of. enough to where they would reach out to their sworn enemies and their sworn enemies would reach out to them and they would come together to try and fight it and he was too fucking stupid to ever think because before he did turn them in before he did go public he did spend probably the last six months

before he brought in like he even brought in like a journalist friend to document it you know, these meetings because he needed an extra credibility. He thought nobody was going to believe him. He was literally planning like his book tour, basically. He brought a writer along with him to document, you know, his detective work in finding out who all of these people were. You know, he literally thought he was, you know, James Bond hadn't been invented yet, but anyways. That's the guy.

And so many of our, I wouldn't say our guys entirely, but I do see it occasionally, glorify this man. They all go around talking about, you know, war is a racket. No, war is a diversion in this instance. Smedley Butler didn't see the racket. He was the useful idiot. So I don't want a man with that just deficit of judgment to tell me what is a racket and what is not because he clearly can't see one when one is staring him in the face. So I don't think Smedley Butler is qualified to tell any of us anything, except I guess how to blindly betray your country and sentence. the nation's progeny for three generations to vampirism,

because that's what happened. After these guys were gone, no rich men built any more churches. No one built public libraries anymore. The whole concept of a public library didn't exist. Like there were university libraries that sometimes people, regular people could go to. But the idea,

of a library, a building just full of books for you and your small town in Minnesota. Just for you. Why? Because you're an American. That's why. You deserve unlimited knowledge.

We want you to have every book there is to have. And if it doesn't have it, tell the lady at the counter, and she'll get it for you in a week. That didn't exist anywhere. And it never existed again, thanks to him. Because no rich men after this ever did anything like it. Because the type of men that were allowed to be rich were different. They sure as fuck weren't great. Well, you know, it's

also when you, even if you do have the idea to do something, knowing what's going to rain down upon you. Yeah. Yeah. What's your incentive? To be great now. Holy hell coming down on you? Like that's American policy now. We tear down those that are great. Because their greatness exposes the weakness of everybody else. So they must be destroyed.

We need... So, you know that I have like a friend that was a, was a, you know, a political person, a long time. you know, person in Congress. It was a vehement anti-Trumper. Yep, I am. Yep, I know exactly you're talking about.

Yeah. And do you want to know why he, I already told you why, that this man went from the most vehement anti-Trumper. He has quite a platform. To the, I would probably say, no man in D.C. believes in

Donald Trump like this man. And this man has known politics since he was like 12. He was involved in like literally involved in like, you know, staying at the YMCA. Everyone would know this person. Everyone would know this person's name. Even if you weren't alive when he was, you know, in a very prominent position. Yeah. This person said when asked by other people,

of like similar stature why how he could possibly support Donald Trump and when we're talking about holy hell raining down on you you could say whatever you want about Donald Trump but this guy said I've studied Paul like I've studied and been a part of politics in American politics all of my life and I've never seen any presidential candidate any president do what Donald Trump has done he said It's like something out of a history book. Yeah. Donald Trump, after his first term, could have, and this is why this guy didn't, wasn't a big supporter of him until I would probably say the lawfare started.

Right? When all the court cases, the felony started just raining down on Donald Trump. That's when this guy had his conversion because he said, that every single president of his lifetime, he could pretty much kind of guess all of his act, like how they would act in any given situation, any adversarial situation. He said, I never guessed what Donald Trump did.

He's like Donald Trump could be, he could spend the rest of his days out on one of the many beaches, he probably owns outside of Mar-a-Longa, which is on the beach. Or he could be playing golf at any one of the resorts that he owns, that bear in his name. He could be in beautiful castles, stunning beach resorts, being served on hand and foot, surrounded by his big, gorgeous family, right? his beautiful wife, like Melania's hot,

his gorgeous kids, all of his sons are fucking studs. His daughter's hot. Like, just cranking out even more handsome grandchildren. Just a man at the pinnacle of success surrounded by loved ones all the time. And not only is he risking all of that,

as he put all of that on the line, but not just him because not only will Donald Trump be destroyed and everything stripped away from him this political guy knows it I know it Pete knows it you know it that they'll destroy his kids too they'll probably destroy his grandkids

they may not throw them in jail like they would him but they will strip away every single bit of inheritance they would have gotten, every dollar, all the legacy. And I can't even imagine what Donald Trump's kids would be like if he lost, like what their life would be like. Because it's not just like not being rich anymore because that wouldn't be it. It would be worse than that.

The regime is sadistic. The regime hates. Like we hate. the regime, but that's, the regime started that. We didn't start that. You know, they hit first. But they hate, the regime hates nothing more than it hates Donald Trump. It would destroy his kids, his grandkids.

And this man is willing to put it all on the line. Not for any reward, right? Like Donald Trump's life doesn't get better. He spends the last couple of years basically working for shitty pay. Not fucking golfing in resorts or like chilling on some fucking beach. The White House is shitty inside. Anyone that's been inside, it's an old building. It fucking smells like it.

Right? It's gross. Because he believes that he can make America better. That's why. He believes it. Whether you say like, oh, like, you know, he's he's compromised in this way or that way, whatever. Like, that's your opinion. In certain parts, I'd probably agree with you. But he believes that he can make the country better.

And he is willing to risk everything in his life and his children's life, his entire legacy, that immortality that we were talking about. Yeah, that's gone. they will destroy him worse than they destroyed any of the men that I mentioned. And that's what made this man a convert. He's the most fucking vehement Trumper I've ever met. More than me. Because he knows history more than me.

He knows political history more than me. That's why. And if Donald Trump can do it, you know, this fucking kind of, you know, Rough around the edges, you know, not exactly. It's a good thing Donald Trump, you know, built and owns a lot of country clubs because he fucking wouldn't get invited to many. All right.

He's from Queens. He's kind of boorish, at least from the standing of people that run country clubs. So if he can do it, if he's willing to be like this, I think Elon is just starting to get there. but every single one of those men, the men that we talked about, they would do what Donald Trump did in a heartbeat and most of them did. And they were just businessmen.

They were just rich guys. So if you're a man of means, it's your duty to do what Donald Trump did. Just like every single one of these, there was a listener that Pete, Pete told me about. And I'll close this off on him, even though he went to a prep school that was the, the school he went to should make him my sworn enemy. Because his school was the sworn enemy of mine. We had men that would be like Mike Frederick T.

Davidson or F. Truby-David-Davidson, depending. All right. When you talk about like American aristocracy, this guy was one of them. He's a Yale guy. I won't hold that against him. Skull and Bones kid, like, probably the most privileged of privilege classes. And even, you know, even as a kid.

And he wouldn't have been able to do this unless, his parents didn't think it was his duty. So Davison was the founder of the first Yale unit, or first Yale Air Unit. So when I mentioned that those young men in the previous episode that had everything, the world was their oyster, what did they do when America got into a conflict?

And what did their fathers do? because their fathers were too old to fight when World War II or World War I came around. And now every single one of us would not let our children anywhere near a recruitment office. But this was different times and these were different men. So Davison was the founder of that air club that I talked about, right? America's first Air Force was young men from Yale in their personal planes. And most of them didn't come back. Luckily for us, Truby did come back.

But I bet most of his friends didn't. So we had elites that made sure that their sons not only served, but served in combat, led men. So these great men were willing to risk. their legacy, their offspring. It doesn't say, I'm pretty sure Trupy was probably

the eldest son because he, you know, usually when young men go by their first initial and their middle name, usually it's because somebody else in the family

has also named that, right? Like Jack is just short for John. And John J.P. Morgan was His dad was Pierpont, so he didn't want to go by John Pierpont. He swam by JP. I imagine Mr. Davidson.

It probably worried him sick. Sending his boys to war, especially something as risky as a fucking airplane back in those days. But I bet you he didn't think twice about it. Just as like an early 20s. Truby Davison didn't think twice about taking his plane and his friends. Most of the first Yale Air Unit was comprised of young men that were in skull and bones or scroll and key, which is a similar organization at a different school. These men could have known whatever they wanted and what they wanted to do was their duty.

And that's what their parents, their fathers wanted. It was more important that their sons did their duty than their sons stayed alive. Because most of those men, right? The Raskins, the Smiths, the DuPonts, they knew that some of their boys were not coming back. And they did it anyways. Now our elites, our elites send other people's kids to die. So I just hope some of our. elites now, the elites that have realized what time it is, that they hold themselves to the standard of

not even just guys like Truby or guys like Raskin-Dupont or Carnegie or Morgan or Rockefeller. Like those are big mega shoes. But to hold themselves up at the same standard as Donald Trump. Trump is doing right now. Like a real estate developer from Queens is making every rich guy look like a coward. Well, you know, you would hope that those people are out there and that they're thinking about it and they're making plays. I guess we shall see.

Because, you know, I mean, one of the one of the points of of the old glory club is to identify and raise up elites. And it all starts with elite thinking. Yes. And that's what people, that's what a lot of people don't get is, you don't have to think like you've been taught. You don't have to think like the cog that's school.

You know, I was lucky enough to go to prep school. you know, to start my secondary education in a pretty prestigious prep school. And it gave me an attitude. It basically gave me an attitude. It hasn't always been the best attitude. I've been able to. Yeah. But I've been able to reel it in.

And most people just don't get that. You're not getting that in a classroom full of, you know, my classroom. were 10, 15 people. You're not getting that in a classroom full of 40 and 50 people. And the teacher, you look at the teacher and you're like, shit, I'm smarter than that person.

I'm assuming a lot of people who are listening to this did the same thing as me in school, especially in high school, definitely in college. Oh, wow, I'm smarter than this person. This person's a moron.

and yeah there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that kind of attitude no I bet you the attitude that you're talking about specifically was that the rules don't apply to you the rules apply to other people right you know the people dumb enough to follow them

like the people don't have to color color you know within the lines like okay but yeah we're the one thing we're really good at I would say as a thing, I guess, is meming things into existence. All right, like, we are setting. I mentioned this on Jason's podcast.

Everybody should go listen to Jason Marichick's podcast. He's got guys much better than me on it, like Dark and Lightning. It's just a brilliant resource. But I mentioned, on his podcast that even though we don't realize it we're too dumb to realize it we've been losing so long

we don't even see more winning we're driving the cultural zeitgeist and if you don't see that you're foolish the culture is coming to us I could probably waste another hour and a half of Pete's evening giving you examples of doing that or how it's doing that

but I think you can already think of some yourself. So if we're setting the cultural tempo, if we're setting the narrative that the other side testified against, and we're really good at meming things into existence, we need to meme, we need to propagate, and we need to carry ourselves accordingly,

we need to bring back duty. And there is a very unhealthy attitude. that because the system hates me, I hate it and I have no duty to it. And that's a wrong way to think about it. The system, this nation, and I may disagree with DE on this, right? But that's my flag.

When I look in D.C., I see my buildings. When I look at this country, I see mine. my country, the people that are in it, mine. These are my people. And just like the people that worked for guys like Jack Morgan, if you're listening to this, you have a duty to them because they're your people, right? You, like Pete mentioned, probably smarter than everybody in class,

probably smarter than the person teaching you. In a better time, you would have ended up in a better place. place, but we don't ask for better times and we don't ask for easier jobs. We don't ask for, you know, an easier go at it. So these are your people. The institutions are your institutions. The buildings that they occupy are yours. Just because some guests have long overstayed their welcome doesn't make.

the guest house, no longer your house, in your house, are yours and your responsibility, whether it's the people in North Carolina, whether it's the people that are less fortunate in your community. You need to act accordingly, right? Aristocracy isn't about thinking you're better. It's about making people that are your responsibility better. give them the ability for self-actualization to be the best, that they can be with the gifts that God gave them. That's your job. If anybody tries to hurt them or take away their ability for that actualization,

it's your responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen. We need to be shepherds, not edge lords. We're better than these people. Not because we think we're better. others will think we're better because that's because they're going to be watching what we do. We're just going to be better because we are better. I think we need to, I think we're in that stage of the game that we need to start taking ourselves quite a bit more seriously than we do now. How we act in our communities, how we act in our day-to-day lives.

Because very soon, I mean, if you understand Rogers' theorem, it's how social networks work. It's how technology works. It's originally used to model the propagation of technology. It's very important to tech entrepreneurs. Every tech guy, or any founder at least knows what I'm talking about. Elon knows what I'm talking about. I guarantee it. Because as you're planning your tech company out, right?

It's very important that you understand about how quickly those ideas, Right, your new way of doing things, your new piece of technology propagates throughout society. Like somebody's come up with a new solution that saves a bunch of time. Okay, well, how long does it take for the rest of the population? To understand that this new solution is the better way of doing things, this platform, whatever it is that you built. Right. How fast those ideas travel will give you an idea of how much capital you need to outlay. How much needs to be spent into growing the platform.

How much needs to be spent? in bringing on new, you know, new team members, what are you going to need? Roger's theorem is important. It turns out it's applicable to not just technology, but ideas. It's a very good way to model how fast ideas propagate through society. And the magic number of the point of no return, I guess, before the curve becomes parabolic, before the system becomes nonlinear, I guess. is I may have to do some house cleaning.

It's late. I haven't eaten since yesterday, but I think it's like 13%. 13 and a half, something like that. And I'm sure everybody listening would agree. Pete, do you think that 13% of the population knows what we know? I think it's got,

I think especially over the last year, if it's not 13, it's damn fucking. Close. Yeah. I would actually think it's more, to be honest with you. Because Twitter is just whatever, whatever the conversation is on Twitter is the conversation in Normandy Land six months later.

Okay. So hypothetically, we're past 13%. That means the knowledge that we have, the idea, the way we view the world, is eventually, right? Not hypothetically, not possibly is going to be. the idea that everyone has, the thinking, right, the realization. Right. So our worldview becoming the dominant worldview is a fate of complete.

The idea is out of the barn. It's coming. So that means whether it's a year, whether it's five years or ten years, people are going to need men like you to be men like we had a long time ago, right? Because if the rest of the country is coming to where we are, right, if you have a whole bunch of people coming to a party at your house, right, they haven't arrived yet, I think you probably should get dressed, have the table set, you know, get to looking like the man of the house.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's, uh, let's just end it right there i think that's the spot yep till next time yeah till next time man thank you very much and um yeah hold on don't go anywhere because we're probably going to talk for another hour without recording probably thanks man i want to welcome everyone back to that we don't even need to do introductions for this guy what's going on stormy how are you done how's it going Pete. Happy to be back. Good, man. Let's, uh, I think this will finish it.

I'm talking about the, the robber barons of old. And, uh, I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're going to start getting into the specifics of America first. The real America first. The real America first. And, and what did people actually believe back then? And we're not even talking about them.

We're talking about what are the common person on the street believe? So where do you want to start? Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First Committee is a really, really interesting thing because we talked before on previous episodes about the American Liberty League and the men that made that up. And those men didn't go away. And we discussed at the end what it took to stop those men.

Because it really was the most powerful. men in the country, trying to, frankly, save the country. And to give you an idea at the time that the America First Committee was formed, it really only had four policy planks. I'll get into those in a second. But the overarching narrative was to keep America out of any military intervention in Europe, right? Because there was no military action happening anywhere else in the world.

The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet. And it was announced on the day that Lend lease started, right? Because Roosevelt campaigned just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned. And these men, that fact was not lost on these men. Like, you campaigning on keeping us out of war means nothing because less than 20 years ago, well within the professional lifetimes of these men, like, how long does a man usually have in a career 30 years? So most of these men were roughly in the same positions as they were. in World War I, and they remember 30 years ago,

Woodrow Wilson campaigned on vehement anti-interventionism and literally his only campaign slogan was Wilson, kept us out of war. And one of the most famous speeches that FDR gave on the campaign trail was that he no American young man is going to go off to some foreign land and die in some foreign conflict right the only way that that would happen is over his dead body if only that were true because unbeknownst to most of America but not unbeknownst to people in elite circles and the Hall of Pallels of Power is that Roosevelt was not only planning on intervening

in Europe, but had been since the midway through his first administration. So like, the man literally, I mean, from the very beginning, Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right? Woodrow Wilson didn't run Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a lot. In his second term, he was a lot like Joe Biden. And I mean, really, we don't have TV cameras. But we didn't have TV cameras back then. But you can imagine.

That his wife was doing a lot of the same things that Joe Biden's wife was doing. And the Colonel House was just basically running the show. 100%. Who did Colonel House working? I think he worked for the city of London. Yeah. It's barrenard baroque work for the city of London. Yes, correct.

That is 100% correct. Literally just like we see today, it's no different. It's the same interest groups doing the exact same things. I caught your interview with Tom Luongo last night. And I agree with almost everything he says. what he knows about like the motivators in the financial world what he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled or at least his views are paralleled in like the private defense or private defense industries and

and we'll say like um it's generally called risk capital but it's not really like I mean VC is risk and yes we all know now I mean some of you guys that have followed me on Twitter for a couple years I'm suspended right now for being a bad boy I got a 12 hour this morning

for something like I posted like a week ago somebody was talking about like inheritance tax basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to throw down on on its farmers some communist was like yeah well my guy this will increase production you know how can you not think it's going to increase production

my guy and then i said something like how about i cave your head and with a rock will that increase production my guy it'll it'll make the world a better place oh god communist brain splattering. It definitely increases production and it sure is shit increases motivation. It's a motivated workforce, but it's the same people again for roughly the same reasons. What happened in 19, the reason that we had 1929 is because in 1929, for those that don't know, There was a cataclysmic financial crash, right? Like massive. That was global.

It was the very first global. I came to call it market crash because it was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just like the stock market. It affected all aspects of sociopolitical economy, right? Like, you know, from, it was Wall Street and Main Street. And it went all the the way around the world really fast because at that point in time, the reserve currency or the currency of trade was the pound sterling. And in World War I, we lent our banks,

lent the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the behest and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody, everyone says, like, the bankers pushed them into some bankers, yes, but U.S. bankers, not so much. Because at the time, like, Germany was kicking people's asses. So once the Rothschilds were tapped out and they had to go to America for capital, like, they're good and well getting their ass beat. So who the fuck wants to lend to a like would you lend a bunch of money to you the

Ukrainian government right now? No. No. Not at all. The only way that like J.P. Morgan is extending a huge line of credit is if you know the go like the you know, pharmaceutical animated corpse of Joe Biden, you know, holds a gun to his head. That's the only way that's happening because it's just happening no other way.

So obviously the Brits did not pull out of World War I okay. And the reparations money that they tried to get from from Germany couldn't come in fast enough to cover the interest on all the sovereign debt. And the pound blew up and England defaulted. And a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the Brits just stiffed everybody. And you had the great crash of 1929, which basically ended the American golden age. So it was actually the sins of World War I coming home to roost that ended America's golden age. Everyone says, oh, the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept them going up and up and up.

yeah as mark andreson on joe rogan or any other one of his appearances will tell you like yeah innovation does that innovation creates value out of nothing sorry libertarians and austrians right like an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum and for it to exist in a vacuum which it does have to, under the tenants of really either Keynesian or Austrian economics, the only room inside this vacuum bubble is for buyers and sellers, making entirely rational decisions for the purpose of getting A, the highest price, and be the most value, depending on what side of the transaction you're on. And these are the only people that are allowed inside this vacuum.

And that's not real. Do we think that, what do you think, Pete, what would you say influences oil markets today more? The rational decisions of buyers and sellers, going about price discovery, in a free market or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin. Well, I would assume the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin, but then you look at the price of oil in the last six months to a year, and you're like, why is it stayed pegged somewhere? Yeah, the left pegged, right?

That's a choice word in the beginning of the Ukraine war, and I'll take a tangent. But for those of you that don't remember, Janet Yellen You know What I mean like went on tour Like you know went They don't really let that troll on TV much

For good reason For good reason She is horrific She's a horrific human being And that's just not because any ethnic animosity I may have Or my preference To

Anglo-Saxon in Ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell, but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis, she's an academic and has never actually worked in the real world, was on labor theory of economics. Labor theory of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like the pretend Jane Liz Lindsay kind or the pretend boomer con kind, but actual kind. her husband is the world's foremost Marxist economist, if such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist. Out of Berkeley, I believe, or Stanford, I can't remember which.

But she tried to impose a $80 oil price cap to stick it to Putin. And the Europeans are like, yeah, it's a good idea. We're going to do a price cap. And then people in the market were like, this is a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. you should never, ever, ever talk about this again and never talk in public again. And it's kind of disappeared. But yet we have, what is Russia?

Russia's like, what, 18% of global production? No, I think it's more than that, right? It's got to be more than that. Oil? Yeah, I'm thinking like oil and we'd have to include NACAS, right? But yeah, it's massive. It's at least 20% of the market. percentage

sorry guys for dying on my keyboard wow are you getting 12% of global oil yeah 12% of global oil 21% of global energy okay yeah that's incredible well that's another reason why

the United States can put sanctions on on them even blow up their pipeline and they're still fine I mean the rubles the rubles crashing now and people think that that's like Oh, we're taking him out. How many times we have crashes here?

Come on. Stop it. Yeah. Like the rubble crash, I mean, it was bound to happen. Just like, you know, that's like everyone's like, oh, Bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like 100 to 90. Like, they forget the up from 8,000 part, which was like five years ago. Yeah. But, you know, oil makes up 45% of the Russian.

Russian federal budget so oil revenues so they thought they could you know do this but so we're going to sanction the largest oil per one of the largest single oil producers in the world and the largest single oil producers in the world and the largest single one of the largest single oil producers in the world is currently at war with its neighbor and the pipeline infrastructure runs through that neighbor, but yet oil doesn't move. And then what happens next is, last year we have war in the Middle East

where, I don't know, I'd say 50% of global energy comes from. So that's some total of what we're at, percent of global energy production in those two nations in those two areas and only because we haven't opened it up here yes but so 70 percent of the world's oil market is technically on fire right yeah and oil has and they're and they're blowing up pipelines and they are um you know downing oil tankers with drones so we haven't seen oil move past 70 this defies all credibility. Like this,

yeah, the oil market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive. It's really expensive. And it's a good microcosm for what, like the one thing like Luongo talks about with the Eurodollar system is that he doesn't talk about what it does and why it's so pernicious. which I think is very important.

So basically what the Europeans, and this is why I'm actually not upset that their pipeline got blown up. Fuck them. You don't get America paying for your entire national defense and you go buy oil from someone else. Buying our energy is the least they should be doing. I'm sorry Eurobrose,

but it's true. Like you can't even contribute two percent. of your GDP, in fact, for the large portion of the history, less than 1%, and at the same time, you're basically expecting us to foot the bill for the largest single line item budget item on the federal government. And it should be the largest single line item on any government. You expect us to pay for that. And then you also want to just buy oil from the person that we are paying to defend you from.

Like, it wasn't for us. Like, Russia could just take you. It's, I am, I know it's an unpopular take, but when you put it next to the fact that, yes, America blew up the pipeline, or the Brits actually blew up the pipeline. And America didn't really care that they did. because fuck them so in the rare instance i kind of agree with james joe biden donald trump and victoria newland but uh yeah america didn't uh blow up that pipeline sorry bros i i know there's tons of euro guys that'll tell you about how it had to be america and i'm sorry for the tangent pete but the very first person yeah the very first person to uh announce the uh the detonation

of the Nord Stream pipeline. Who is he? It was on Twitter. The Polish Secretary of Defense. He posted a picture of the gas bubbling up from the C floor and

it said, thank you America. What a fucking odd thing to say, right? Why would you say that? Why would you say that publicly? Like, okay, let's say America did do it. and a defense minister of a NATO country takes to social media to rat out the United States to the world.

What did we do to Julian Assange? What do we try to do to Snowden? And you're going to like fucking breathe oxygen in a sphere of U.S. control? Like, you shouldn't be drawing breath. I mean, there's, that made absolutely no sense to me. All right. Like, nobody that fucking airs out U.S. secrets like that, especially secrets of U.S. misdeeds will continue to draw breath if the U.S. has anything to say about it.

Well, you know you can get away with doing stuff like, yeah, you know you can get away with doing stuff like that if Joe Biden is president. It's the same way you can get away with invading another country, you know, basically, knowing it's going to draw us into it if you know that the people there's no one in charge yes possibly yeah i i can totally agree with that i could totally agree with that but this polish defense minister is a very interesting human being besides being married to one and apple ball i thought you'd like that um he is and this will be breaking news on the p quinoa show because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this, at least in our spheres. So this Polish defense minister is a nobody, an absolute nobody.

He's a poor, unimpressive, unacademically gifted, uncollegial sports gifted human being, a really mediocre person. But somehow, this poor Polish person, foolish nobody gets a full ride to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger. While at Oxford, his first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join the Bullington Club. Do you know what the Bullington Club is, Pete? No, that I do not know. The Bullyington Club is like skull and bones if it was somehow more secret and more exclusive, because it is, both of those things. I believe it's five members a year. So four years, at any moment time, there's 20 members.

And you have to be, which we'll call it, your invitation has to basically be chaired by one person or sponsored by one person and then agreed on by all of every other member of every other, including not just the freshman class, but all the other members. But the class of people, so it would be like those other five guys, the other four guys are going to really be the determining factor of, you know, who the next person is going to be in their grade year. Do you know who that person was that vouched and sponsored him? Because it's not something you can apply for. it's something that you have to be just picked right one young boris johnson who else was in the

bollington club the freshman year bowling club well that would be one david cameron current secretary of defense or whatever their equivalent of secretary of fences i can't remember um There's one other one. I can't remember some of their famous politocrat in Britain was the third one. And magic number four was Lord Natty Rothschild. Nattie Rothschild owns that other pipeline that went online the exact same day that Nord Stream blew up. Nobody probably heard about it. It's a big pipe line. But I mean the news kind of gets drawn you know drowned out by you know a pipeline being exploded by a foreign actor and kind of takes all the air out of the room but it runs

from Norway to Poland it's one of the umbrella companies of the same group that does Genie Energy you may have heard of Genie Energy I think we talked about Genie Energy it's a Rothschild they um I think they're Golan Heights. I think they control the oil production on the Golan Heights. Yes, yes. They tried to also propose South Stream. They also have Dick Cheney on the board.

Interesting. And Donny Rum, and the late great Donny Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were a big deal in Iraq war days. But anyways, they were trying to do something called South Stream. So basically, the U.S. didn't go into Iraq for oil and it didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to Iraq for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go.

All of the shitlibs at the time were correct. It was blood for oil, just not oil for us. U.S. net oil imports decreased after the Iraq war. But a country that has no natural resources, of any kind outside of human capital, but that is arguable. It is of arguable value. Suddenly is the seventh largest energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil under its ground.

The holy land is not that holy when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi Kurdistan right next door does. that's who the Don was firing his missiles at. Remember when we invaded? Yep. He was supposedly mad at the Qataris, right? Or sorry, the, uh, was it Qatar? Kuwaitis. Kauwaitis. Kwaid is. How come we didn't fire any of those missile, scud missiles into Kuwait? Was it really Kuwait that was stealing his oil? I don't know. but I know after he was thrown out of power,

the country that he fired missiles at stole all his oil and now exports it. They have a thriving energy industry now. Seventh largest in the world. Amazing. Completely non-existent. Anyways, let's head back. We're going to have to get back to the 20s at some point.

Yeah, let's let's let's add on back. America First Committee. So speaking of skull and bones, it was founded at Yale Law School. One of the men that were, it was a part of it, just to get you an idea of who made up these fine gentlemen. You had a young Gerald Ford and a one Potter steward, a future Supreme Court judge. and the main policy point was to keep America out of war in Europe. The founding of the America First Committee happened after the defeat largely on the continent of the other European powers.

So the Battle of Britain, England getting its ass kicked in the air, had already been underway for two months at this point. Lendlis had just been announced, and everybody started to see the setup. Everybody tries to say that Charles Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathizer. I would say he's a Nazi respecter, only because of having toured there and seen their capabilities, right? As in like the same way I respect Russia.

I don't love Russia. I'm not sympathetic to Russia, but they have more nukes than we do. And apparently as of like last month, they have new ways of delivering those missiles. Or sorry, those warheads. So I respect their military capability. And that's basically what Lindbergh.

That was his opinion as well. But what about Stormy? But what about the pictures, the pictures of, of Mr. Charles Lindberg with Herman Guring and he was awarded the what is it, the Iron Cross

I can't remember the medal Thomas 777 somewhere is chimping at me I'm sorry Thomas I can't remember Keep going, keep going, I'll look it up But why was he in there? Why was he in Germany? Because he was living in Britain at the time after his son was murdered suspiciously his infant son

was called a crime of the century well he was in Germany at the behest of the state department sorry the war department and at the explicit invitation of the U.S. embassy

in Germany for the purpose of gathering intelligence on Reich airpower and aircraft production. Hermann Guren is an aviator. Charles Lindberg was the most famous aviator in the entire world, times like 100. He was like Elvis. People got trampled when he landed in Paris. There were so many people rushing the airfield, which is a pretty fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded. And 20 people were still crushed to that. It's estimated a really good book to read if you can get your hands on it.

It is hard to find. But, you know, let me pull it up. It is written by the aid to camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors, former governor of Ohio, Myron T. Herrick. The book is titled Myron T. Herrick Friend of France, an autobiographical biography. It was written after his death. I mean, this guy's Uber famous at the time. The French actually put him on their currency, the five, I think it's like the five franc piece.

I can't remember for many years. A whole bunch of streets named after him, including the one that the U.S. embassy is on currently. And a bunch of statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World War I were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris within a month. I mean, the government had already made plans to evacuate. And Mr. Herrick didn't feel like going anywhere.

So he got a bunch of howitzers and some Gatlin guns and a hundred Marines and turned the embassy into a fortress. and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere. And the French loved him for that. He won the, he was awarded the Legion of Honor or whatever. He was the guy that received Lindbergh in the landing of the super famous flight. So his account of what the public, he was also Lindberg's, it was the first that those two had met. and he would later

Linberg would become the political protege of Myron so if you want to know about Myron or so if you want to know about Linberg and his political worldview and where it came from Myron is probably the place to start but yeah

this was probably the biggest event to happen in Paris in a hundred years as far as like individuals coming to see a specific event that wasn't you know like beheading or you know something like that it was the biggest like public spectacle and he was the most popular man in the world charles limburg was so herman guring like jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like i think i could probably get uh mr charles limberg to come over um Because at this point in time, the Germans were not doing so bad in the Battle of Britain. And generally on the continent, were viewed us unstoppable. So a very famous German fighter pilot gets a chance to show off all his new toys and the military might of a now strong Germany to the most famous.

famous pilot in the world. Of course. Absolutely. So what if the war department who cares if the Americans learn how strong we are or see how many planes we crank out? I get to hang out with

like I don't know if he was Guring's idol, but the excitement like Guring like it took him home like showed him his house. He was super, the pictures of Guring and Lindberg are very, very funny. As far as like how excited and kid in the candy store

Gurdling looks, it's pretty awesome. But he was awarded. What's the, did you find the name of that medal? Yeah, it's the service cross of the German Eagle. Okay. Yeah, nobody, including Lindbergh and everybody else at that dinner was expecting to get an award. Gering kind of surprised everybody. And of course, a bunch of pictures were taken. And

a very hostile press took this. I believe because his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford

Edison and Myron, Myron Herrick. Myron Herrick is also a, besides a governor of Ohio, he was a big wig in Republican Party politics, and it's the primary reason, what is it, Calvin Coolidge? Was that trying to think. I think it was Calvin Coolidge. I can't believe I'm blanking on this. But was a big reason that the Republicans had won the White House prior to FDR. No, Herbert Hoover, there we go.

Fuck. Jesus. Also, the same man who gave FDR his start in politics. And recounted often how it was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made the deal, which you'll find in that book, to give a position to, a young Francis Dillan of Roosevelt at the was it the undersecretary of the Navy it wasn't secretary of the Navy he was the guy right below it um second in charge of the Navy at the time

of World War I and in his memoirs he says specifically he made he was forced to make the deal all right to get Herbert Hoover in right at the caveat of appointing fdr who a vehement democrat at that point and a insane appointment for republican administration to make but he said that was the deal that he had to make with Mr. Bernard Baruch He says the I can't remember what he, what words he used

but a lot of derogatory words that we probably shouldn't say on YouTube if this is going on YouTube. But anyways, Mr. Myron was not a fan. But basically he, Lindberg's associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group.

and when that photo with Gering was taken, the very next week, it was on the front page of the New York Times, calling him a Nazi sympathizer, saying he was going there because he loved the Nazi so much. And that is the narrative to this day. And the entire time, He was asked to go there by his country.

He would later go on to serve his country several more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a majority of the country's media was decrying him as a traitor and a Nazi, neither of those allegations, the fact that they were coming from the halls of power, and literally out of the mouth of the president of the United States of America, I was thinking about this the other day.

If Joe Biden made a point to where he was, every time he got on the radio or the television, was talking about how much of a traitor in a scumbag stormy waters is. If all the newspapers in America were calling me a traitor in a scumbag, And this idiot president decides to stumble us into, on purpose or in ignorance, stumble us into war with Russia, right? A war that was easily avoidable and a war that 80% of the country, by far more now, but let's just say 80% of the country, because that number is going to come back in a little bit.

80% of the country oppose. So a war that the American people don't want, and a war that was a war of choice for a small, privileged, powerful group of people in the American government, the deep state, whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or through whatever lens you want to use.

It is undeniable that the common, conflict, we find ourselves in with the ancient Russian people and the country that is over a thousand years old, is one entirely by choice and a choice that was not made by the people that would end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened. Joe Biden at the same time telling America and all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor, would I have the commitment to my nation and what that nation is currently and what it once was if I would have the decency?

calmness of Seoul to basically not be moved by any of the negative comments being made by the president or the media. And I would serve my country in a war that I hated, in a war that I didn't support, and in a war that most of America didn't support, including the men fighting it. Would I, would I have the courage and temerity to do that? I don't know if I would, but he did. And that's the type of American you're taught to hate. Just typing Charles Lindberg into YouTube or into your podcatcher of choice and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life. No hardship suffered none telling us how much of a Nazi, how much of an anti-Semite,

how much of a horrible person this man is. And what's even funnier is that his service was secret, as in he would get no credit. No newspaper would ever report that Charles Lindbergh is in fact not a traitor and in fact fighting for America in a war plane. As we speak, he's in fact not a traitor.

Nobody was ever going to know that. And he knew that at the time. So it's not like he was doing it to try and get out of the allegations of being called a traitor. He was doing it. Again, here's that word that we don't see

anymore he was doing it because he felt the sense of duty. His nation was at war. So therefore, he was going to fight its enemies, whether he got credit for it or not, no matter what the media said about him, no matter what the fucking present of the United States

in the White House at the time said about him. So it was published 25 years after he left or basically after the war was over because that's about the amount of time that he could get in trouble

for releasing classified information which at the time that he was doing it his combat missions into Japan. And we don't know, but there is a lot of suspicion that he took part in the Doolittle raids. But what we do know is that this man flew 186 combat hours in the Pacific. That is about three times as much as a typical combat airmen would see. over their tour of duty.

And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was going to, he wasn't going to come home and no longer be called a traitor. He was going to come home and still be called a traitor. And no one would know what he did or that he, in fact, wasn't a traitor. It was illegal against the law for him to tell anybody what he did. And he still did it. And I don't know. When I think about that beat, I don't know if I would be that brave.

I don't know about you. Yeah, I mean, it's a difficult choice to make, especially when you, um, when you look at the way they, they treat people and the way they hound people. And even back then, I mean, McCarthy, McCarthy was already a drunk, you know,

when all the hearings started and everything. But, um, you know, what they did to them just drove them to, drove it, drove them to drink that much more, You know, so it's not, you know, people have a tendency to believe because we're in this information age and things can get out over the internet in a split second that, you know, back then it would be harder to slander someone. Well, not when everybody's reading the newspaper, not when the newspapers are, you know, all printing the same thing.

Yep. And they're controlled and they're being told what to be, what's a print. Yeah. Or the radios. Yeah. They drove people. They drove people to become pariahs as just as much as they do it nowadays. Even more so, because at least on the internet, you can post and you could say, no, this is not true.

At least that we also. Yeah. But we also had a more moral society back then. So people leapt to their morality a lot quicker. And they took their morality a lot more seriously. So if they thought somebody was treasonous or something like that, That meant something to them. It's not thrown around, you know, like we, like most people do today.

Oh, yeah. I mean, Tucker Carlson was to call the traitor. I mean, Donald, we thought the president of the United States was a traitor and an active Russian spot. I mean, like, they just throw these words around. Like, they don't mean anything. But back then, you were 100% right. These words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious about, how they were being thrown around

because the progressive I hate to even call it the fucking new deal right or the new deal regime the new deal administration right because that's not what the men at the time fighting what FDR

was doing to the country thought on the last episode I did with you Pete we read some of the speeches that were given by the head of the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith and what he thought the New Deal was and he had just gotten FDR elected. So it obviously wasn't going.

Basically what he was told was going to happen in the FDR administration did not happen and something else happened instead. So I hate to even call it the New Deal regime because the men at the time saw it as communism being driven by a foreign group of people both within and without

and from without so right the entire new deal regime came kind of crashing down on the uh on him and pretty much all of the other men that stood up to it

And now, like, none of the hell that we live in today would be possible if it wasn't for this. And you could say, like, oh, yeah, there were still subversives. And, you know, oh, yeah, this group has been in here doing all this other bad stuff for a very long time. Look at the Schofield Bible, but nothing. Nothing like the fucking New Deal. It fundamentally, it was a, it was a. revolution no different than 1776 as it fundamentally changed the governance structure and the relationship the dialogue between American citizen and his government forever and I hate to bring up

Mark Andreessen again but he's a really smart guy I I respect that guy a lot but I don't think anybody even in our spheres that know how pernicious the regime has I don't think I think what he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as a surprise to most people. It came as a surprise to me and I fucking think about the shit every day. I'm pretty smart. Like, the level of persecution at like a granular level was just shocking to me. And like the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own attack agency that not only isn't in the constitutionally, but isn't accountable to anybody because she's a senator.

She has no authority to have an agency, but she does. So, like, the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it. I mean, you certainly can't stop it. You can't, like, call up a number and talk to a manager that, like, there's no, you're just being, it may as well being, it may as well be persecution from a demonic entity, right?

It's just, you know, this persecution that is happening everywhere all at once. And you can't figure out where it's coming from. There's no way to put your finger on it to get a hold of what's, you know, what's afflicting you. There's no, you know, command structure that you can air your grievances with. It's just insane. And all this came from the New Deal. And I don't think he, I don't think we, I think we've become a little bit hyper-focused on a specific, a specific aspect of the regime.

And we kind of miss, we sometimes miss the meta, you know, of it all, right? Like, the thing in its entirety. But anyways, if it wasn't, if it was anybody else besides Charles Lindbergh, I think they would have been sunk because his popularity, like I said, was hard to describe or hard to contextualize it. In modern times anyways, because, like, yeah, there's famous people, but there's also so many famous people and people that are famous in all these different ways. and there's all these really, like, different niches. But like Pete, to what you were talking about, about how there really was only newspaper and radio, and if you controlled those things,

you literally controlled the entire public dialogue. Right? No one was, you know, getting, finding new bands on SoundCloud. Right? The only music you were exposed to was the music that was shown to you. The only news that you were exposed to,

your whole conceptual reality, and this is public consensus reality, was dictated through two business verticals, radio and print media, that's it. You had total paradigm control. At least they thought. So, you know, when someone becomes very well-known, like, in those days, like, it was kind of similar in the 60s, kind of. But there was no, like, thriving subcultures or anything like that.

So if you think of how popular the Beatles were, Charles Lindbergh was more popular. I think I have a better, maybe a, a, please. stronger astronauts. Oh, yes. Like Neil Armstrong. Yeah. Yes. Buzz Aldrin.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. So these were celebrities and national heroes at the same time, as well as international sensations. Like being an astronaut was like quite literally like being in the Beatles. Like you were that like you were getting pussy that easy. And if the if the astronauts happened to have, uh,

you know, been on stage a lot, which they, luckily they hadn't. I'm sure panties would have been thrown at them as well. But yeah, so luckily Charles Lindbergh was popular. He had a voice and he could, he had really good advisors. So the way he spoke was very much the way Donald Trump speaks. also in that book by by ambassador Mr. Myron

he talks about like he heard Charles's speech and was like it was so natural he was basically just saying the whatever was on his mind like as it came into

his mind like very very much like Donald Trump and myron like recounts how he's like to the average you know uninitiated observer what he's doing looks very very easy but to an experience public speaker or rhetorician like he was like a prodigy was charles limber like he wasn't taking like public speaking class like he he just was a fucking natural very much like trump is And he spoke in a, I urge everyone to listen to, I know, uh, kind of like the Hitler AI translation speeches are going viral, which is great.

I think that's awesome because if everybody, if anybody still thinks that national socialism was about you know just hating jews or you know global conquest or any of the you know american secular state religion belief structures the second you hear you know adolf hitler speaking in it And what he's speaking about? All that goes away immediately. Like, if you replace the word Germany, that could have been any America, like, that could have come out of Donald Trump's mouth. Well, not so much Donald Trump, because he seems to like or be comfortable with our media environment, right?

Probably because he's so good at playing them for fools. Like, he literally fucking lives, not just lives in their head rent-free. like he owns them they're they're so reactive to him he basically puppeteers them um but outside of outside of that all of the other aspects of the nsdap's you know policy positions it's i think it's it's 20 planks you would want any u.s politician to be saying the exact same thing and you're like oh maybe this was about something different i urge everyone to look up the uh it's called the demoyne iowa speech right so charles linberg on septemberg on september 11th 1941 in demoyne iowa is a speech i'm gonna oh i forgot i can't because i'm i'm in the time out box uh i would post it to uh to

Twitter, but when I'm allowed back on Twitter, I will do that. Or anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you for, you know, supporting one of the best guys in our sphere with your money. Like the thing that matters, Mr. Pete Quino knows. But yeah, if you get access to this early and, you know, it comes out quickly, just to start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need to hear it. it's that good.

It really is. And that'll give you a really good idea about what America First was about. I'll leave some stuff out so the man himself can tell you, because I think it'll be better that way. But what he did say, what caused outright insanity, if the press hated him before. But again, so we say the press hated him, and FDR hated him were vehemently denouncing him.

It was very much like a Donald Trump phenomenon where all of the consensus media and consensus policy, you know, people and the, you know, important people, all 100% agree that Donald Trump is the worst and the, you know, the vast majority of the country's like, yeah, we don't give a shit. We think he's great. 80% of America. supported America first. It's policy positions of non-interventionism, right?

So 80% of the country was against any type of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support, and most of all, you know, troops on the ground, around 80% of the country was isolationists. They say isolation is like it's a bad thing. Like these bad isolationists. Yeah, sorry, access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right.

Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in my nation, which are farmers boys in Iowa, bricklayers, kids in New England. Right. And farmer sons in the South. And some electricians kid on the West Coast, that's America's most valuable resource. And access to it is not a human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that we can do. Because, frankly, no other nation has the right to American blood. I don't care if your nation has a right to exist or whatever. I don't care. You're not my people. I don't give a shit about you. Well, it also, it also shows respect for other people's cultures. We're not going to fuck with you.

Yes. You get to have, you get to have your culture. You get to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us. You know, if you want to, if there's something you want to trade, we'll have a talk. If not, yeah, you know, God bless. Don't fuck with us. Yeah. But if you, but apparently, if they move here illegally, and then they subvert the nation, they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything, well,

that's okay. And they don't fight. No. 98% of combat arms just happens to be one ethnic demographic. 96% of combat arms, MOSs, sorry, 91% something like that. In the special forces, I think it's 80% high 80s in the regular, the broader Marine Corps and Army. It's white boys. is white American boys.

That's who does the fighting. I don't care how smart your Indian friend is. I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they came here legally. I don't care if they flew here on wings they grew on their backs. don't fucking care because they don't fight and who fights well patriots fight so i guess they didn't assimilate did they i guess they really don't share our values do they because they don't fight

they won't fight for those values so therefore they don't have them because you only believe something if you're willing to die for it anything else is a fucking hobby and these people don't fight so they don't believe so they don't share your values they don't share your beliefs is vivac ramoswami is he gonna is he gonna pick up a gun is he gonna go fight i don't think he is is what was that chinese motherfucker uh Alex Wang was it Wang was running for office. Is he going to pick up a gun? Is he going to fight?

No, he's not. Because he doesn't believe. And nobody has the right to have young Iowa farm boys trying to stuff their guts back in their stomachs as they scream. Because a certain group in 1933 decided that they were, they didn't even have a country and they decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation and a nation is not a country a nation is a people yes it's a race culture is ethnic culture is genetic culture is racial so they didn't have enough men to fight

so how are they going to fight this war that they just declared they're not exactly the fighting people as mr. Netanyahu is finding out right now because he can't get a certain subset of those people to fight they refuse to they're such a non-fighting people there's such a a people that doesn't fight that in their own country they have to have mandatory draft because no one will join you can tell who's who believes something by who is willing to die for it and october eighth of twenty twenty three was it one fifth one fourth of that population went to the airport on one-way flights so whose land is it you know it's funny when i um when i move to after high school

when I moved down to South Florida. It was described to me. They were like, you know, it's the one thing about South Florida is, you know, you're going to find out that it's very transient. I didn't really understand what that meant until, you know, I didn't understand what that meant until years later when, you know, when I learned other terms like rootless. Yeah, we're cosmopolitans.

Literally everyone from Florida is from somewhere else. particularly South Florida. South Florida is like this. And really, anything south of Palm Beach is, you know, West Tel Aviv. Or North Cuba, or North Haiti, or North Puerto Rico, or Western Russia. or now Western Ukraine. Right. South Florida is a fucking mess. I can't wait to get out of here.

Luckily, I live in the last bastion of, you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics. But I'm sure that's about to change. Sooner or later, the population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just doesn't agree with my, cultural soul. Florida is an ugly place. It really is.

Yeah. I don't fucking like the beach. Okay, so what else is there to look at? Nothing. It's flat. And it's either swamped. Yeah, the true south, the Midwest, where people actually put down roots. That's what America was.

Funny, that's the only place where men that fight come from. Mm-hmm. men that are going to be torn apart by sharks in the middle of the Pacific slowly bleeding out on a beach that they can't pronounce in Europe right that's where those men come from and those are the only men I find it very interesting that make up our sphere not to you know fire shots or whatever

I'm not going to I am a New Englander that's where I was born and raised and my family has been since the 1640s when it comes to like people in our thing

I find like the people from New York no offense that still live there that choose to live there in the city or all just wearing our thing around like a skin suit like a fendi handbag or you know some louis Vuitton duffel bag or you know name a shoe right it's a fashion accessory it's the it's the edgy transgressive thing right it's fun to talk about

doing a racism and they don't believe any of the things so few of them I've met a precious few from New York City that believe what I believe to the degree that I believe with the acceptance of the possibilities and externalities that could one day show up at my door for believing what I believe There are a few, and I love them very much. But for the most part, same thing with LA. It's just a fashion accessory. They like to say the transgressive thing.

They like to be seen as transgressive. But that's it. I'll never be anything more than that. That's why you got to both, you know, be a right, wing edge lord but at the same time don't let anybody say anything mean to our trans friends or anyways i i just find it so hilarious that they somehow believe that they take that this is their thing and we're along for the ride but nothing could be further from the troop i find it offensive like to the highest degree.

Like it's the insolence that gets me. But the men that like those, they're no different than the people that had headed to the international terminal at Ben-Gurion Airport, October 8th. Because if you ever make a move to actualize, any of your beliefs. It'll be people like that that stop you. It'll be people like that that stab you in the back. Because if you ever seek to make it a real world reality, it's no longer fun. It's no longer transgressive. It's no longer pretend. You're ruining it

is what you're doing, right, by making any steps towards actualizing any of the things that we believe, that they say they believe. But it seems that when we make moves towards bringing our convictions into our concrete reality, they screech and holler like I am tearing up that fendi handbag or I am pouring bleach over that Chanel sweater or whatever because I'm ruining their fancy fashion accessory they wear our heritage and our identity like it is a fancy dress and i say dress because turns out most of you fucking faggots like to wear them or like boys that wear them nothing right wing about you you don't believe anything we certainly wouldn't

die for anything not like those men in the spanish civil war did not like those men in the spanish civil war did not like those men and in the Battle of Berlin did. Both of them knew their situation was hopeless. In the Battle of Berlin, not only their situation, but their cause and their nation, was lost. And they still fought. And you guys Kavich, whenever we actualize any right-wing beliefs,

outside of the precious view, but I think we have a problem of people wearing our beliefs as fashion accessories and I think that's something that we're dealing with right now I think it's a teething pain that we're going to have to go through you know you really can see like you mentioned the Spanish Civil War and you also mentioned Israel it almost brought me to tears

when you're reading it Pete yeah well brought me to tears every time I read that The, the, when you look at how the nationalist handled the Spanish Civil War, so they had it in, they, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't even like they had foreign invaders. I mean, they technically, but it was, they had, they had elected, a government was elected, that decided that they were going to, this came out later, kill half the country. that they were going to kill half the people in the country. I never realized that. I'd never known that. Yeah.

Yeah, their goal was to kill 50% of the Catholics in the country. So what they, when you look at that and you know, and you know that the only people that fled north to France were the infirmed and the old getting out of the way of war, and then they stayed there and fought, it really goes to show that when you look at Israel and you just have people hopping over this fence and killing a bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages and then running back and you know millions of people decide they're going

to go home Israel is not a country Israel's not a people it's not a vacation destination yeah it's a place where people go to have extended vacations to be around their own which you're not allowed to do pretty much anywhere in the West because of a certain group telling you you're a fascist if you do that yeah they don't have when you compare that when you compare the Spanish and you compare them there's no there's no question who the better people are who the better breeding is who the better bloodline is there's the people who are going to stay and they're going to fight for their own not run who the noble bloodline because they have no because they have no home, no matter what they say about Israel.

As soon as something goes, as soon as something goes wrong, they no longer have a home. They go to their other home or their, you know, wherever that may be. Yeah, these aren't a, these aren't a people to be. Idolize. There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh, God, I see it everywhere. We wish we could have our own ethno state. No, it's like, yeah.

Why can't you? When a couple, yeah, when a couple people get killed, you know, when a couple people get killed, what happens? Oh, we're going to, we're running home. We're going to run to Europe, or we're going to run to the United States. Okay. The army should have been overflowing the very next day. The army should have been overflowing, right? Just as every single recruiting station in the country was the day after 9-11.

The only people in that, the only people in that country who actually give a shit and are willing to die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it. They're the ones who are like, we took this. Fuck you. No matter what you think of that, we took this. Fuck you. Unleash us. Let us go, let us go kill Palestinians.

Let us go kill the enemy. Yes. They're the only ones. I actually respect them. Yeah. And I understand me. They don't want to fight in the IDF. I don't fucking blame them.

Right? You got these, like, if you're on the, if you're on the cabots, like, you're fucking, you're the closest that one of a cosmopolitan people that have had no roots could be to one of those Iowa farm boys, right? Or one of those Appalachian coal miners' kids. Right? You're doing work in the land. They actually believe in what they're doing.

Yes. and you're working the land. That's what you're doing. And a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I know this because I've taken to growing food and a certain amount of peace comes over you, tending the soil. Like, it really does.

It clarifies your mind. I wish all of our elites would do this. We were out in the backyard. today getting things prepared for the winter. Yep. It makes you in tune with the seasons. It makes you in tune with your surroundings and you bond with the land. It is a dialogue and no one can tell me different. So those people on those cabusses, their connection to the land is now a spiritual one. And it seems that that's funny because they're willing to die for it. And they also won't fight with the people that have to be forced to fight the conscripts the

draftees like i actually respect that they won't join the idea of like that to me isn't a negative what why would true believers want to fight the fight besides um trans people and other things yeah the world world's fighting force yeah homosexuals and i mean sorry but women yeah when they when they occupied that church in leban on the other day i And the one own that they could think of on the Christians, the own and desecrate the church, was to have a mock gay wedding, except for surprise,

the bride or sorry, the groom and the groom, you know, made out at the end of the ceremony. Super tough guys. Like, again, I don't think that's the own you think it is.

All right. Let's let's go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, see, Pete knows how to get the most out of me, because I do have to be kept on topic, especially like that. But so the guys that, briefly, we'll talk about who else, before we get into Charles Lindbergh's fight with FDR, which basically it became because being as popular as he, he was, any radio station would fall all over itself to get Charles Lindbergh on the air.

Advertisers would pay insane multiples on what they were normally paying to be either before or after Charles is a Charles Lindberg speech. And it got to a point where the president's fireside chats, President Roosevelt's fireside chats as painful as they are to listen to, I urge you to start seeking out Charles Lindbergh's radio appearances, or I guess you can call them like addresses, right? And then find the FDR fireside chats either immediately after or immediately before. These men were addressing the nation ostensibly, but they were having a debate like tit for tat. I mean, it was literally like they were on the debate stage going at it, if you listen to them in order.

And it was a debate that FDR was losing, and Charles was winning. And after the Des Moines, Iowa speech in 1941, when he said, FDR, the British race and the Jewish, race were pushing the country into war that settled it 70% of the country at the time it's not my these are here they did the poll um this poll was was this page 18 this one yeah Gallup Gallup 1938 and then Yeah, most of these are going to be Gallup polls. And there's the O.P.O.R. surveys, which I think the organization is now defunct.

But 68% of the population of America said that the Jewish race had too much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't just him. In fact, Pete, I sent you a book the other day. What was it called? FDR in the shoes. That's probably why I didn't remember because it was literally that obvious. No, I thought it was, yeah, okay. And I remember reading a couple paragraphs.

I read like the forward in the introductory chapters of the book. and basically the purpose of the book was because it's one of those great things where they do like the actually it is happening or sorry it's actually happening but also it's actually a good thing and not a bad thing that you know the left so famously does um so fDR in modern times uh you know in the in the late 90s 2000s uh read around like the Ken Burns, the suspicious history documentaries started hitting the air. FDR's memory was starting to get a lot of flack because he turned down or he rejected that boat full of Jewish emigres that were fleeing manual labor in Germany.

And, hey, man, like, you know, Africans, I believe, are what, like, lactose intolerant? Some people are, some races are labor intolerant. But he rejected, he basically turned away the ship. Right. And that kind of came back into public consciousness. And basically, like, there was this, you know, narrative going. around that it's probably from some, probably from some idiot conservatives. I actually, I guarantee you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh, FDR, don't, you know, love the Semites like I do.

In fact, FDR and the progressives were anti-Semites. And that's why they turned away these, uh go on always always attack always attacking the left as the um oh they're the real racist or they're the real anti-semit and um yeah it's like okay it's like that antioch declaration i was listening to uh i don't know what the antioch declaration is i they saw cryptos post about it everyone should follow cryptos one of the best accounts um i saw his post about it but i was listening and i still didn't really understand what it was or basically on like whose authority it was issued and then I was listening to probably the angriest I've ever heard orin McIntyre just I guess just dropped a stream about about this and about how to handle in you know disagreements and infighting inside your cultural

political movement that was a really good talk very angry which is interesting and refreshing to hear. I think Aaron should get more angry. Aaron, if you're listening, need to lean into that. It's good. Not like being angry. It's good. Being angry is not good. No emotion is good in and of itself.

But hearing him deliver points like that with some anger and hostility in his voice. It makes Aaron hit much different

and in a very positive way. So Aaron get angrier and preferably right before your streams. But yeah, it was it's like what conservatives do, man. They go run to the left to try and cancel guys they don't like on the right.

Anyways, but yeah. So this book came out to try and like it was basically like no no no uh in fact um the jewish people in the fdr administration was actually their relationship was so close in fact that the public started you know asking a lot of questions and getting very concerned and with the his third election right around the corner it basically became politically untenable for him to accept them because of all the other good things that he had done for the Jewish people in his administration thus far.

So surprise, FDR, not an anti-Semite at all, but was so philosemitic, in fact, that it became politically toxic. and if he had done any more of it, the toxicity would have been fatal to his third presidential aspirations. So that's why. And the book that I encourage everyone to read it, I've only just started, but if it keeps on hitting like the intro chapters, I think it's going to be a really interesting book.

But, yeah, 70% of the country saw it the way that Lindberg did, that these were the three interest groups, right? When I think he says the FDR administration and FDR personally, he was saying FDR personally, but the guys that were backing him, backing the America First Committee, these were the same guys of the American Liberty League. If you remember my talk about the American Liberty League in the last episode I did with Pete, you'll get an idea who he's talking about when he says, like, the FDR regime as its own separate interest groups. Because at least from the men that were in power, industrial, financial, social, capital, like that type of power, even though they weren't in the government because the progressives, I'm sorry, the new dealers.

These men saw it as a political regime that was being puppeteered by Bolshevik Russia. And there was a lot of good evidence for it. A lot of that evidence would be confirmed. by what's called the Venona cables. Turns out, like, they had some, the Russians had some pretty good encryption tech at the time. And their ciphers, it took, like, computing power of, like, the early 2000s

to come around before we had the ability to bust it open. So I think the NSA cracked Venona, or at least released, announced that they cracked it and released it. I believe in the early 2000s. But surprise. McCarthy was right. And not only was he right,

all of these guys at the time of FDR were right and were more right than they even thought they were. Right. Like our first lady was literally a CC, a CP USA member. What the fuck? Like Barack Obama, isn't a Marxist.

Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, isn't a Marxist. But the FDR regime was. The New Deal regime was. At least most of the people in prominent positions within the administration were. And they wanted the U.S. in World War II, real bad. Because who is the other group of people

that were withering against the onslaught brought on by the Vermont? for the Lufthofa. It wasn't just the British, wasn't just the Jews, it was the Soviets. And the Soviets, unlike the British, their lend lease.

I heard you bring up the other day, Pete, and I don't think not a lot of people know it, is that at the time of the U.S. entry into World War II, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing, weren't set up for from the very beginning we're not set up for. And we're not at the time making

American calibers. Yeah, it's like you, I think the main character, caliber they were manufacturing was 762 by 54. R, yeah. What's that, what's that for? That's a mosenagant.

Yep. Other Russian whatever that, rifles. Yeah, what is it the the DPM? Is that the one with the plate on top of it? It looks like a dinner plate or a record on top of it. I can't remember. Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD.

Now, wait, is the RPD the fat AK-47? Now, what's the, what's the 762 by 39 belt fed? That's my favorite. I'm not a P-KM respecter. I think it's the RPD. I think it's the DPM.m. Yeah, the DPM machine was the 762, let me see. 39, or was the DPM the 54R?

No, 74R. 762, 54R. Okay. And that's the one with the weird disc magazine? Yep, and if you go out to Battlefield Vegas, you can rent one and shoot it. Oh, man. And FDR? you know, fed the magazines.

That's great. Hooray. Makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America First Committee were equally as interesting. They were all the men that I previously talked about with the American Liberty League.

But you've got an idea of this organization. It was the largest organization, political or otherwise, in the country. It had 800,000 paid. members paid. Think about that. Like even today, do you think, you know,

Act Blue or DSA or do you think any Democrat, let alone Republican, Republican is laughable? But do you think any political action group in the U.S. has 800,000 paid members? Paid isn't like they've received a check. Well, you don't need that anymore because you have so many big, gigantic, you know,

billionaires willing to fund you that yeah you don't need that well you got to hire you i mean these were people collecting checks not not submitting them oh wow yeah insane well they also like like it was also like a union their members also did pay you know uh did contribute um but they don't actually know how many members right even the president of the america first committee even said like I have no idea how many actual members we have there was and what was the population what was the population in 1940 uh you have a much less loud keyboard as i do so i'm not subject the listeners to that population you USA was a um population 132 million okay well there was over a quarter of a million

America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again, 80% of the population not only agreed with the tenants of the America First Committee, but I would probably say a majority of that 80% back to the organization themselves. So who come checks? You want to know what's really interesting about that? So those numbers that he's quoting, I'm almost 100% positive.

He got those from a book called Hitler and Los Angeles, how Jews foiled Nazi plots against Hollywood. And in there, which was written by Stephen J. Ross, in there, they actually post these surveys from the 30s, asking people, you know, do you trust Jews? to use it. Yeah, they, yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I think it was the American Jewish committee at the time that was doing those if I remember the book correctly, but yeah, those are, those had been long for, those numbers have been long forgotten until they

decided to write this book to brag about how they foiled all these Nazi plots. What was the, do you remember what it said, uh, the percentage of the US population that trusted Jews that viewed them as trust were there? It was between 70 and 8. The trusted? Trusted or distrusted. I'll think either or. Well, distrusted was between 70 and 80%.

That makes about... And you can even... And I'm on Amazon right now, and like even one of the reviewers says... What is it? I found this book well-written and fascinating. I was somewhat amazed at the strong sense of anti-Semitism, and isolationism that existed in some of the more progressive areas of America at the time. I'm concerned that some of this thinking is raising its ugly head once again in both Europe and America.

This is a review from March 7, 2018. So, yeah, they actually went through those numbers in this book and just, you know, basically told on themselves that, you know, it's like, it's one of those things where you're... they do it all the time. This is information that they do it. It's so ridiculous that they do it all the time. They think that if they put that out there, that thinking people aren't going to ask questions like,

well, why? Why? I mean, people in the 30s are. Because you have to think that they think that they're the only ones that are thinking people. So I don't believe in all of the, all of the sillier tropes about, you know, their cartoon representation of in the figure of Dracula. I mean, yes, I understand St. Simon.

For St. Simon. St. Simon is going to have it. We'll have his revenge, I'm sure, of it, at least in Europe. But the fact that the vampire can't see his reflection in the mirror, I find just so on the nose. I hate to even cheapen it with a pun like that. But they're not only incapable of self-reflection, aha, but they're also incapable of seeing themselves as a broader group, right?

So, like, in that public bragging, like you would think like oh this may be a bad idea for us more broadly you know like there's no there's no reflection at a group level either anyways yeah because the telling on themselves is constant it is a constant theme i find it just deranged but um some of the fiscal backers the the check cutters the big ones um one is Julius Morton, governor of Nebraska and U.S. Secretary of

Ag under, I believe, Hoover. He was kind of a big deal in the budding conservationist movement. Arbor Day exists because of this man. He made

his money I can't remember. I can't remember. made his money. Somebody should check it out. I'm sure it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It was a millionaire at the time. Very much of the establishment and was founder of the daily news, which was the only newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back in time, and this is the other thing. Like, our academics represent the opinions of the the American people in past times by seeing by basically looking in the newspapers right

pete like if they want to see like what americans were saying about a certain thing well who owns the fucking newspapers all right like yep i have never heard but go on especially the new york times yeah right who said that that's the paper of record who says uh how come i have never how come i and you have never heard of the daily news, the newspaper. We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah, in New York, you have the New York Daily News. You have the Post in the New York Post, and you have the New York Times. Let me see.

I'd have to go back and check. But yeah, it's just the daily news. The founder is Joseph Peterson, or Patterson, P-A-D-T-E-R-S-O-N. But I had never heard of the daily news, but it was the largest newspaper in the country, right, in the 40s and the 30s and the 20s. How have I never heard of that? It had the largest circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes and looks at the daily news

when they're looking through microfilms about American opinion? Because I just found that out yesterday. And as of now, I am going to start looking at when I want to look at opinions of the past, that's what I'm going to look for. Because almost all of the historical, you know, academic work, right, is, you know, when newspapers are involved or, like, you know, going through archival newspapers, it's always the New York Times or the Washington Post. but one of the most interesting backers of America first and a frequent check cutter was one John F. Kennedy so you had Gerald Ford as one of the founding members and which I find that very interesting that he was Nixon's VP choice right that's pretty cool but anyways

John F. Kennedy would write handwritten notes because he would always put his checks in envelopes and on the envelopes each time would be like this is the most vital

this is the most vital effort in the nation this is the most important effort or the most important undertaking of the nation And he was a vehement supporter of America first. John F. Kennedy. His father as well, right, but his father is a business magnate

and a foreign diplomat, right, very similar to like the Myron T. Herrick types. You know, I think Herrick was a banker. Yeah, a successful banker because he's who the, he's the guy who was, I think in the very first episode, when we were talking about, the very first episode of the robber barons, we were talking about how Pierpont Morgan was trying to get out ahead of and stop before it really, really, really, really got underway. Like, I think it was like Turkey and some other country, you know, like this, the, the, Eastern European countries had just started, right?

and it would later melt over. But the JP Morgan and Company tried offering very large zero interest and forgivable loans to both of the belligerent nations. And

Myron was the it was orchestrated out of Morgan and Morgan and Grenfell was the London office Morgan and Hodges was the Paris office

it was operated out of the US embassy in France or in Paris France which was that Myron guy's operation and and out of Morgan and Hodges so I

find it really interesting that like the same guys that tried to stop world war one are also the same guys that tried to stop world war two that makes i don't find that a coincidence at all oh and by the way they're also the most um financially powerful people and you could say the most financially literate people in the country so sorry libertarians uh sorry leftists turns out industrialists and bankers don't want wars so no wars or bankers wars, retards. God, I hate the sloganeering of libertarians. Their ideology is a bumper sticker deep.

Because all of the U.S. bankers seemed to work very, very hard at substantial personal risk to themselves and their fortunes to do the opposite of war. So, at least as far as America is concerned, no wars are bankers. bankers wars and the guy that headed the guy that was the first president of the America first committee is a really interesting character so like you're talking about like the level of American brass top top as I guess you could say like pop ethnic stock of the heritage American ethno-hast I shouldn't laugh right Darryl Cooper already spends enough time

trying to tell me that I don't have a people, and I don't have a country. I shouldn't give his silly position any help. But he's great on everything else. Darry Cooper's a really good guy. Just wrong about one thing, which is all right because a lot of smart guys are usually wrong at least one thing. Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one DVD.

Really? I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think I should be allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier General Robert Wood was the president and chairman of the America First Committee. like you know before this is this guy is actually really really interesting right um he was a successful executive and he went to west point and he served in the philippines from 1902 to 1903 and if you know anything about what happened in the philippines you will understand that this man saw some shit like some real horrific stuff. But he retired in 1915 and then became the vice president of DuPont Company and headed operations inside

the United States. Just to clarify, for his service in the Philippines, because you wonder, like, is this guy like a cadet? like how old is he right so at the time that he was retired and he was a major and would later be in 1905 became assistant quartermaster or assistant chief quartermaster and then chief quartermaster but that was that was after his service in the philippine so he started off the Philippines just a regular officer as one does when you graduate West Point. But he would leave a major and then go and be vice president of DuPont and head of U.S.

operations. Pete, do you remember who was one of the largest backers of the American Liberty League besides Jack Morgan? I read, I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember. So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they came under by the newly birthed regulatory state,

I'm assuming that these guys thought it best to put at least one layer of insulation between them and their political action. and that was Mr. Robert Wood, sorry, Brigadier General Robert Wood. And he stepped down from the DuPont Company on the eve of 1917 and America's entry into the First World War. He returned to the army as an infantry lieutenant colonel. So he was on the front line. he stepped down out of the vice president's office of one of the most successful and wealthiest companies in the country to go to the front lines find me anyone in corporate America today in senior leadership that not only served there's lots of men that serve that hold those positions at least a handful but how many of them are going to step down from those positions and fight on the front line if their nation is ever called to arms

we used to be better just unheard of yeah we used to be better this doesn't happen it doesn't happen anymore all of this stops tomorrow all of it this hell we live in, this frail husk of a once great house, this amazing place turned into a haunted house, a house of like horrors. Now, all of this ends tomorrow when the men with money realized that some things, in fact, most things are more important than money. These men knew that already instinctively. Somehow it's been conditioned out of us. I don't know how.

But I'm sure it wasn't easy and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened. These men knew that there were things more valuable than money, that there were risks. of loss far worse than money there are worse things as we are finding out today than losing money and the sum total of our past sins well what's that quote from the movie the Patriots are the only quote of that movie I like he's like he says that my greatest fear was that my past sins would one day come home to roost like sorry the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost and the cost would be more than I could bear I believe is the quote it's a good one because I hope that that's not the case

with America. I hope that the ghosts of our elite's sins have come home to roost. We live in it. I just hope that the cost is not more

than the nation can bear. But he would later lead the entire American expeditionary force and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would then go on to chair the Sears Roebuck company. He became one of the most important business leaders, not only in the company's history, but in the country at the time, serving as its president from 1928 until 1939, also founded Allstate, a pretty serious dude. To give you an idea of his

Bonifides as far as American Anglo aristocracy is he in 1950 was admitted into the fraternal and hereditary society of the Cincinnati. If you know, you know. I don't leave it at that. But these people, these people weren't like the men like I just see these men and I look at like our guys and the shoes that we have to fill are immense yes we have been gate kept away from the wealth of our nation and I say that rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included, have not been. But I know most of our guys have. So the bounty of the greatest country in the history of the world, their inheritance has been kept from them.

So as far as positions of prominence in our leading business institutions, cultural institutions, and political institutions, like Esau, that inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can reasonably expect our guys to fill, but their character, their sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation that is a sum total of the intergenerational, what's the word to put it? I guess I don't want to get too metaphysical, but we believe intrinsically that there is some type of, every now and then science throws us a bone, right? Science confirms something that surprises science, but does not surprise us, people of faith.

All right. And one of those things is the discovery of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can test it in entirely controlled environments now. First, it was that 100 Monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on. Our show with Thomas Astral and Jay Burton. Jay Burton. Yeah.

Also a great guy. But we can replicate it in the last. an entirely closed environments. We're using different colors, spiders, and things like that. Where a chimp will, you know, associate some very negative stimuli to certain colors and shapes, and their offspring are inherently, or, sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors and shapes

within one generation. So our consciousness, right, is, there is that innate nature of it, that observer, that passive participant, that is pure awareness. That is, that's our soul, that is our spirit. But then there is our consciousness, our conscious mind.

the part of our soul that is us and not God. That is a sum total of our memories, our life. So if a portion of memory is inheritable, intergenerational memory, then consciousness, it's impossible to denounce. that there is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a people and ethnos or racial consciousness in the real sense, not in the rhetorical sense like the left uses, but there is a real living conscious entity that is in some total of the memories of each generation.

I don't think I'm doing an adequate job of explaining it. I'm a little slow today. But the results of this are undeniable. Go on, please. Save me. Honestly, I think that's a conversation for another day. Yeah. That deserves its own episode.

Yeah, I'd like to have that chat with. but maybe Thomas too, because he was the one that initially gave that light bulb. But like the people that serve are moved by that consciousness, right? Those are shoes that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were dumb in their worship, at least in some spiritual capacity, their ancestors alongside their gods. because I mean you know anyways so we can fill those shoes we don't have to fill the shoes you know financially or economically or in positions of prominence yet but we have to be able

to fill those men's shoes in our concept and our mortal devotion to those things. To be ready to fill those shoes, to be deserving of filling those shoes. And when I look at these guys, and then I look at our guys today, we need a lot of work. Just like the blackpilling, for instance,

the constant defeatism. If you were in a trench, that type of attitude would get everyone killed. if they didn't kill you themselves. Like, we have to be better. We, you know, I'll end it. I'll end it on this. You mentioned Oren and an episode he did,

and he was talking about the Antioch thing. I'm about. Well, what the fuck is there? That's some bullshit. bullshit inter-protisan fighting. You know, sign this to prove you're not a fascist or whatever. But the point of Orrin's, that whole episode, and a couple comments I've made recently is that it seems like now that the left is seemingly defeated,

instead of the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left so they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems, some big problems on the right. They're arguing over memes. They're basically unfollowing people going to war with people over the meaning of memes. And we can't be expected to be ready for the kind of fight you're talking about. if we're fighting it with each other over this meme or, you know, what is, you know, or, oh, well, you know, if, if you're, if you're against Israel, if you're against Israel right now because they're at war, then you're obviously on the side of the Palestinians. I mean, it just, and if you, if that's, if that's true, you're a third worldist. And it's just bullshit. It's just the right got it, the right decided they were going to get in. the right is like, oh, well, look at this. I mean, Trump got elected and, you know, the woke is, you see people taking, removing their pronouns and stuff like that.

So they're defeated, so let's fight with each other. You know what this sounds like to me, Pete? What? The Army Rangers and also NATO has been nice enough to do something similar. The document's called Cognitive Warfare. I cannot read. The Army Rangers have their own psychological warfare outfit. And you can get a hold of the training manual and doctrine.

They've been, I think it's the repository I found them on, it was like a cycle public intelligence. It's a great site for policy documents. and training manuals, a training manual for like anything military is really like not just like a, you know, it's on an instruction manual. It's really like everything, right?

It's a complete text. But public intelligence, I believe, was the site I got it from in this particular instance. But it basically goes through what Psiops actually are. And I think it's very informative. And I think we would do well in knowing it. because all the things that we get chalked up to so that we chalk up to siops, right, like hoaxes or trying to convince us of things that aren't real, right, like holograms or whatever,

like all the stuff that Alex Jones screams are siops, right? Like these fake things that didn't happen, trying to convince us of not real things. That represents less than 10% of what a siops unit actually does. right so our whole conception of what a sciop is is less than 10% of what psychological operations soldiers right and operatives are actually doing do you know what 90% of their time energy and resources is spent on sewing discord and creating infighting in a target group It's what 90% of SciOps is on the ground.

Sounds familiar. Yeah, it does. Because the number one priority is to break enemy cohesion, right? And get the various

leadership individuals or organizations in an enemy population or an enemy fighting force to fight with each other. Because when that happens, logistics breaks down, command and control breaks down, and most importantly, trust breaks down.

If you don't trust this part of your outfit, you aren't going to be confident that they will resupply you or reinforce you. So that completely changes your paradigm of what is possible on the battlefield. you won't do certain things. Simply sewing, creating infighting, and sewing discord, all of the second and third order effects of that on the battlefield are huge. So much so. It is so worthwhile that it represents 90% of what psychological operations units devote their time to.

It's all about infighting. Infighting is the name of the fucking game. And when I see contrived controversies that no one asked for, taking over the entire discourse, I get suspicious. Because if I have to ask, why the fuck does this matter? And whose issue was this prior? Was this like the hobby horse of any particular subset of people? No, it wasn't.

Is this suspicious as fuck? And anybody fighting on either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous. This is an actual sci-up. Fucking holograms or, you know, no planes or Project Blue Bean convince you of an alien. That's not sci-ups. This is siops. This dumb shit. Yeah.

I think that's where we should end it. I think so too, man. It's a pleasure. Thank for having me all. Always, always. And let's get back together with Astral and Thomas and Jay real soon and pumps some of that out because people are, I think people are loving that too. I really like that.

Yeah, we do a lot of stuff in real time there too. Yeah. I mean, I think panels are the way to go. like for like current stuff or like stuff that's effect like stuff like stuff like this a panel is perfect for stuff that's afflicting our guys and the scene like right now also for planning like objectives um for you know anyways that's something that's something we should definitely get together and talk with thomas about yeah absolutely because he's going to have a lot on that all right man i appreciate you thank you very much talk to later bye