The Pete Quiñones Show - The Star Chamber - Episode 3

Episode Date: July 4, 2026

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All right, here we go. Star Chamber episode three. Stormy's here. Thomas is here and waiting on the ever late Carl Dahl proving himself to be a non. Literally blackest dude, I know. Oh, God. But so who's got something on their mind? Who wants to start this off? Yeah, we need to run a credit check on Carl. Something tells me he's in the six, sub 650 range. Yeah, not like much is happening or anything. There's a lot happening. There's a blackout in the news cycle, and that's very deliberate. What does jump out of me, and I'm sure remaining loyalists of the president, are going to push back on this.

But, you know, originally that fight card was supposed to be this weekend. You know, and obviously he bumped it up because that was supposed to take center stage in lieu of this, you know, what amounted to a total capitulation to Tehran, you know, and taking a massive loss in the Horn was straight. But

now Trump's trying to organize, he's trying to organize some event on the national mall. I mean, I didn't, I mean, even if, even if Trump still had a kind of momentum he did, you know, a year or two ago, I mean, who's going to, Washington, D.C. is not particularly pleasant,

I'm there a lot. You know, I'm not just talking shit. And I mean, there's things I like about it. But who the hell, even in the best of times, like, who the hell wants to, like, sweat their ass off on the national mall with their family or their wife or girlfriend? And be like, yeah, Donald Trump is awesome. Like, is that a fun way to spend the Fourth of July?

Like, I don't think so. The founders hated it in D.C. It was they called it a swamp. Like, this is how you, like, a malaria infested? swamp is I think what I want to know. Kennedy said like something like dad reminded me of the other day. Like Kennedy said

that Washington, D.C. is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm. Oh, God. But yeah, so but it's it's going to be kind of an own goal no matter what because first of all

I mean, unless you really can unless you can really stack up bodies in the national mall, it never looks like there's many people there unless you literally get you know like 50,000 people there you know so unless this was a genuinely well-attended event Trump's ops would be able to say oh this is a big failure you know look at you know look at how far the president's fallen in terms of his grassroots popularity and

but I mean it's just you know like I said it's just a goofy idea and for a guy who you know for a guy who's first and foremost a media guy It seems weird, man. But they, what's been dominating the news cycle is people, you know, obviously, you know, a lot of legacy media saying, yeah, this is a huge bust, you know, and Trump's people trying to push back. But the whole thing is goofy. And I think Trump's really slipping, man, you know, not that, I mean, I'm actually, again, I'm sure I'm sure people who continue to fan girl over him are going to say I'm just talking shit. I just like him, but objectively, he's not managing the media environment well. And that is a change because he traditionally is quite adept at that.

But that's what I'm not raising that suggesting it's some important factor. It's just there's an ongoing blackout on substantive coverage of, you know, power political events and things. and so this is what's dominating the news cycle was my point. Yeah, it's like the news media being equally as Zionist captured as, you know, Fox News or any R&C headquarters. What was changing is. They can criticize him as on like some algae. Like algae is fucking news.

We don't want to say the war for the Jews is bad. So we're going to criticize Trump on what, his pool cleaning abilities? Well, what's odd is this. I mean, there's a couple of things. Back when, back before there was a true consolidation of legacy media and felt weight power. And I mean, this, this happened in earnest under the Clinton administration. You know, going into, for example, Gulf War I, there actually was, you know, a diversity of opinion on policy questions and things. and legacy media was as bad as the regime was in terms of their intentions,

but they were opposing elements in substantial measure, you know. So there's that consolidation. But what's changed since, say, the GWAT era, it's not even as if legacy media tries to spin events in ways that conventionally one would as part of a propaganda, narrative to shore up support for a fledgling war effort. They simply black out

the subject matter. And that's a mistake. You know, you can't just you can't control the psychological environment by simply refusing to address it. You've got to show up to play.

Otherwise, just as nature abhors a vacuum, well, you've got to look at the psychological environment of a media culture or a discrete market media market as sort of you're talking about an anthropological phenomenon at scale in the absence of a narrative to characterize what's underway is something will emerge that you can't control so it's it's really, really foolish.

I mean, that's the old Soviet method. We're going to pretend, we're going to pretend that Chernobyl didn't happen. Okay, see how that works out. It's funny, because there is a collective consciousness of, like, the nation, everyone, you know, will have states of raising apprehension for, you know, for no reason individually, but, you know, one or multiple reasons collectively. where everyone just feels on edge. So not addressing the points like Thomas is talking about literally drives people nuts.

Like they will actively go out. If they collectively feel a sense of, you know, anxiety or impending doom, they will go seek out the information to validate that concern. And you not presenting it is fucking up. Because I find it else. No, that's true. And don't get me wrong. There is a full court press by regime allied NGOs on the internet right now. That's why social media has become basically unusable.

But that's not enough. It's not enough to just run interference and sabotage, you know, legacy media adjacent social media platforms. Because then you're still just reacting. You know, just you can't control the psychological environment in a reaction. way. But, you know, I, it's going to, it's becoming imperative. This is another question. I don't want to, I don't want to hijack the conversation, but people need to disengage from social media as much as possible, you know, of this sort of, you know, I'm talking about like Instagram and X and things like that because it is becoming increasingly unusable and a waste of time and, uh, uh, a sort of

self-defeating distraction. You know, people should be spending their time on constructive things. Or, I mean, maybe that, I mean, I have a hundred percent favor of filtering mechanisms. You know, so that's the silver lining, but there's too many people who I think otherwise are

productive in a partisan capacity or fucking around with social media and that's really, really a bad use of time. You know, there's this interesting thing that I started noticing after October 7th and I started telling everyone and that's when I

you know re stumbled upon Pete's stuff because I was like the people that are speaking in these walled gardens like on Gab or you're an X and you're siloed into this

kind of you know kind of a mini walled garden but you can see out of it unlike on Gab, unless people bring screenshots in or something, is that there was all the stuff happening in regime media that points to the left that they were ignoring, and thus they were unable to understand the landscape or the psychological preparation that was being made for this shift. You know, CNN was taught, was preparing the Libtard's anises for

the fact that they were going to do something different, which to me was like Trump is going to be elected, right? And people outside and like really deeply subverted and people who have essentially defeated themselves psychologically couldn't believe that I was saying this. And they're like, no, they don't want Trump. And I'm like, no, you don't understand what I'm saying. Let me walk you through the things that I'm seeing. And to your point, Thomas, they have to talk about these things. Because that way you can control the conversation around them or you can give your people their talking points. And, you know, so, but again, to your point, the dilemma is social media is also unusable and it's being used primarily as, as, as,

a weapon against you. So those two things can, those two observations can exist in conjunction with one another. Oh, definitely. And thankfully, we've carved out alternative communication platforms

and information platforms. The way they used to back during the Biden administration, the way they'd render it unusable is, remember how like when you'd constantly get spanned with porn bots? Not everybody did, but only certain kind of accounts did. So you basically couldn't use your account anymore.

Now what they do is you just get bombarded by ops who somehow can find you, despite the fact your shadow banned for everybody else. You know, and, you know, I think it's kind of run its crows. course. I mean, for the time being, I maintain a timeline, kind of a perfunctory way, and I I'll shout out stuff that I record on other platforms and things, but it, you know, it's just not, it's not a good use of time, and it's, I don't, I mean, look, everybody's surveilled these days, and I certainly don't advocate breaking the law or anything like that or anything of a sensitive of nature, but I don't, I, I don't really understand why I should be utilizing a platform. There's very little return.

And all I'm really doing is sort of availing my ops to what's going on in my mind in terms of what I'm working on. You know, like, why, why is that a good use of time? There's a rhetorical question. It's not. And like I said, I think, I think the trend is generally in the correct direction. People are actually committed and people are actually on site. are disengaging from it, but, you know, it's, I think that kind of conventional social media is dying anyway, you know, and it has been for a minute.

Well, I mean, I have the proof of that. I mean, we have, we have really good evidence that, like, the Jewish money that goes to pay people to post and things like that is not going to the left anymore because the left is seen as anti-Semitic. because they are pro-Palestine now. It's all flooding into the right. And so a lot of what you see being posted on social media is people who are being paid by Tel Aviv to post. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's not even being hidden anymore.

Yeah. It's the best filter you could have ever applied. Like, the Jews just pretend they have no choice. but to out themselves because they can't have any environment. Like, they can't exist by themselves knowing that people are criticizing them somewhere. They have to try and, you know, alter influence that conversation that they're not a part of. So please keep paying faggots like Captive Dreamer. Keep just so everybody can block them.

Like, if you're going to use social media at all, you need to curtail your environment aggressively. But it's also, if you, if you, you know, the study of, if you studied the history of how the Jews operate, this is just another signal of how weak they've become. Agreed. Because normally they can straddle both sides. They'll be able to give some money to the Republican Party, some money to the Democrats, and they'll be able to keep things going. Now it's like they've based. basically they have to concentrate on one group and as there and they're concentrating on the oldest group that's dying and the younger people they may want to take the money but most of the young people don't give a fuck about Israel anyway so I mean this is basically a death now this is this is a signal that there's not real terms also really what propped up the Zionist

enterprise really they can only be that can only be facilitated by the kind of bully pulpit that legacy media enjoyed for about 65 years. And that's an incredibly rarefied situation. You know, that it was an accident of, you know, a convergence of odd circumstances of historical nature and the state of technology such that it was possible to prevent, you know, to create barriers to entry, such that the monopoly could be sustained in a near absolute capacity. You know, you've really, you need the ability to create a kind of immersive propaganda environment. And believe it or not, television and movies is immersive.

People don't think that way anymore because there's genuine virtual reality and things. But especially when it was a new modality, it's very immersive. The brain responds to it as it would stimulus and meat space. You can tell that by anybody that lies in bed at night and thinks about movie scenes or how certain scenarios played out in movies. That's because you're going to log those as memories. Right. And parisocial tendencies develop relating to fictional characters and things.

Okay, so basically, Designus Enterprise was premised on the ability to create this bully pulpit, immersive, media, psychological environment, whereby you can essentially code people from the time really that their civic memory emerges, around eight, nine years old. You can code people essentially to develop a sensibility around, you know, an Airsoft's religion, where Adolf Hitler is Satan. The Jewish people are Christ. The world is this grand struggle against fascistoid elements

who do things like slaughtering people wholesale and then bulldozing their bodies into ditches. And you saturate the media environment with these images over and over and over and over and over and over again. and then you organize an educational curriculum that can be rigidly enforced because there's really no remote learning or anything whereby what they hear every day in school is you know Hitler is the devil Hitler is the devil Holocaust you know today we're going to read the diary Van Frank tomorrow we're going to watch a movie of bulldozers pushing emaciated bodies into a ditch you know and interspers with images of Hitler and swastikas and then you know we're We're going to have a guest speaker here who is a brave war veteran who's going to tell us about how al-Qaeda is an anti-Semitic element and they're as bad as the Nazis. And he's protecting our freedom by fighting these Nazi al-Qaeda terrorists. You know, and that's the only way that can work.

It can't work amidst a totally alternative and discreet media environment that can't be managed in the way that the way that the, bully pulpit of legacy media could be managed. And information awareness and the ability to crowdsource in real-time events changes things too. What the regime is trying to do, the reason why they're constantly engaged in this epilogia for AI is because they're thinking long-term that they can completely break down the barrier between categories of mind and confabulated stimulus and reality so that they can simply devise reality as they see fit and claim that, you know, there's no different, you know, AI is just as

legitimate as something you, you know, traditionally captured through the camera lens, you know, because it's a truth being presented, even if it's not literally true. So they're thinking that they can replace, they're thinking they can replace immersive reality with AI and reestablish the bully pulpit and defeat and destroy people's ability to distinguish between what's a lie and what's true and what's a category of mind or fantasy. It was a category of reality. But there's so much pushback against that, that what's going to happen is if there's any sort of mass reaction into that, it's not going to be an acceptance of that. It's going to be people are simply not going to trust anything anymore other than what they literally see in front of their face. So that's going to

backfire. That's what they're trying to do. Yeah, great separation. They'll be the slop consumers, but those are bottom rung people anyway. Everyone else is going to just move towards ignoring it. And I'm starting to see that with a lot of people. I know a lot of people who are like, I'm so sick of the internet. I'm so sick. I click on a video. It's supposed to be that I had this today. I wanted to look at a classic trailer for a movie that was released in the 60s. And it was some insane AI generated slop. I was so outraged immediately that I was just like shut everything down and walk away. Something that really irritated me is there's this old movie with a, It's with Christopher Lee and I think Roddy McDowell might be in it too.

It's one of those hammer horror type movies, but it's a rare science fiction one. It's called a Horror Express. And it's based on who goes there. And it's about in the Orient Express, Christopher Lee is this eccentric, like, Englishman adventurer in the early 1900s. And he captures this frozen monster that he thinks of some early hominid. but in reality it's an alien that's been frozen for you know like a million years and when the thing wakes up

it starts uh it starts murdering people on the organ express and what it does is that uh it absorbs people's memories and consciousness so it's interesting but there was this episode of creep show and uh it was called horror express it just it just popped up in my recommendations

and I'm like what the fuck is that so I click on it you want to know what it is it's got that like annoying we easily guy who's in all those movies like a barbarian and weapons and it's just him being insinuated into footage from horror express because it's like yeah it's like why that's fucking retarded you know and like that's uh he's supposed to be this like movie buff guy and he he develops this uh he develops this virtual reality machine that is obviously a tanning bed and then it's like they just like a a item into scenes from horror express and it's like

they passed it off as some fresh content. Yeah, I mean, like, how fucking retarded is that? you know but that's uh but yeah that's that's that's that's that's all they do now is is uh is is uh manipulate old IPs a lot of which have passed into public domain and just do like dumb stuff like that and you know but i but the you know the the the point is that yeah i you know the the environment of the 20th century the media environment can't be it can't be recreated you know that doesn't mean that it's not going to become more difficult to reach people on mass, but we really don't need to do that.

You know, I mean, that's the point I'm always conveying. And people who think we do aren't on the side. They need to go join the Jehovah's Witnesses or start contributing to their local, you know, Republican candidate for Congress or something. You know, the infrastructure, I think, socially and psychologically, any other way, it's already been, it's already in place. You know, I mean, that's one of the reason I can tell, like, people who aren't on sides. Every time we do one of these live streams, there'll be some guy in the comments saying, like, yeah, but see, everybody's right wing is isolated. I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?

I can hop off a Greyhound anywhere in this country and find a couch to sleep on. like all the people I associate with are on side. If you don't realize that you're not part of this, you're some guy in the internet who like accidentally stumbled upon our content. You know, I mean, so that's important too. Yeah, I think they only use for social media now is just networking with newer guys in your area as people come online. I've started to see that there's a lot more young people basically,

taking this from like lurking to I want to start meeting up and I want to start knowing the guys in my area. I mean, Carl, the Pacific Northwest has always been like a hot spot kind of for this as far as a, you know, IRL organizing, but I'm starting to see the same thing and the good parts of New England that are left. I'm starting to see the same thing here down south. Same thing in Texas, Tennessee. Like, if you're using it to find your friends, then just find. your friends. Post-only stuff, just throw out beacons.

That's what you should be posting for. You should be posting to find your friends. When you find your friends, you should be coordinating with those friends and DMs and get together. Social media is a powerful tool. Yeah, to keep up conversations remotely. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

Because we are a decentralized group, just because we've been forced to be that. And just use these platforms the way you want use them, not how they want you to use them. And if you make a conscious effort when you're on them, this is how, like, let's say X, for instance, this is how X wants me to use X. Fuck you. This is how I'm going to use X.

Just treat it like Slack. And there's a lot of zoomers that haven't had jobs. Carl, can you tell people what Slack is? It's basically a communications channel where you have, you have, you have, different working groups or you can ping people individually. And so it's a very good analogy for how you should use social media. Sometimes you have large group chats. You can put together like work streams or, you know, planning for certain events,

different groups of guys introducing people, you know, through you, et cetera. It's a, I think that's a good analogy. Instead of being at the whim of the algorithm and stuff, use it to find people and network with people you are. know. Somebody needs to vibe code me a Slack style overlay for X and Telegram. Like, you want to be really useful. We have enough cultural power where we actually, I think if you got a whole bunch of the big right-wing accounts pushing something, I think you could actually kick off something that has a bit of virality to it amongst getting the right people. And the fact that there's not a right-wing slack yet for like actual guys that want to organize is a damn shame.

Yeah, there's too many separate tools. You know, come here. Come to this one. Come to this one. Come to this one. Like an overlay that had some anonymity baked in. You know, layers of things would be really helpful. We don't own Discord.

We don't own Telegram. We don't own X. These were all barriers, right? Remember how the fucking lives? He's like, oh, why don't you build your own? Yeah, well, now I can just queue up Claude Fable. and go tell some fucking robot to build it for me and they'll do it in an afternoon. Telegram's massively hostile.

Like, people got to quit telegram too. I mean, I'll take me hostile. It's full of like literal child molesters and Ukrainian freaks. Like, people should not fuck with it. I agree to be amazed that people will be like, yeah, hit me have a telegram. I'm like, why, man? I'm like, that's not a good way to go. It's, you know, I mean, that's why I migrated to signal.

I mean, telegrams uniquely insidious, man. People got to fucking quit that shit. You know, I don't want to preach it people, but this is a common sense thing. And just on general principle, man, I mean, I, do you really want to fuck with a platform that exists essentially for two reasons that, you know, for Ukrainian race traders to do their thing and for literally for like kitty reapers to trade like fucking CP? like that that's why it exists you know I'm not just talking to them shit you know and I agree I think the whole the whole idea of you know setting up Slack channels and everything is great but you know people have to be discerning about who they want to deal with hell yeah I was already thinking you could have a vouch system that tracks for forever

so not only could I see who vouch for this fucking moron that is in the chat I could see who vouched for that guy too I mean a lot of people are online just to be on because they they want to feel like they're doing something it's it's a surrogate activity they actually grew you got to ask permission to join it and if i don't know who you are generally i'm not going to let you join it you know and uh when i've taken a chance on people because they're bona fide seem good there's enough dudes who i know i i know face-to-face or in there on the regular if not daily you know who who sort of share us the, you know, the

channel, man. You know, there's ways to handle that. And people don't know what they're fucking talking about or are just random weirdos who, like, shuffled in there. They out themselves pretty quick, you know.

It regulates itself in large part, but you've, you know, you've got to keep it fairly intimate. But then again, a channel or a chat, like that if you've got 50,000 people, it's kind of defeating its purpose, you know? And yeah, I think, I don't want to like talk shit on Gab, because I think those guys hard isn't the right place, but Gab is like, was like dead on arrival and it's like remain

like a corpse for years. There's like, you know, it's not, somebody used to take the sensibility of gab and but actually makes something that has some like life in it and and is actually you know it attracts people um and and bring something to the table in terms of its uh utility man you know um but again there are that the the social infrastructures in place um and what things are as they should be. I just, you know, like I, my, my concern is, like I said, that conventional social media is becoming unusable again, so people should disengage from it. You know, I disengaged from it for about two and a half years totally, because it just wasn't, I mean, first of all, like, I couldn't get any social media account. I just be banned immediately. But also it, you know, even if I went

behind proxies and stuff, it just wasn't usable. you know, and we're getting to that point again. So, you know, and plus anyway, it's just not a good use of time for that to be the focus of some of these intellectual energies and activities. You know, the time you're, like, dicking off on social media, you could be doing something actually constructive, you know, and ultra-short-form writing makes people fucking lazy, too, I think. You know, I'm going to realize I'm an old person,

You know, it's all of those things. I think the Gab guys need to, if you are listening, I know you guys are listeners. Keep doing what you're doing with AI. I think that's the most important thing that anyone's doing right now. Because like Thomas said, it's an extremely powerful tool that our enemies are trying to lock down for them. So, you know, any effort that exists for our guys to, Even if it's, whether it's just free, as in like free from any type of gating or steering,

or whether it's just strictly ours for our guys, getting a hold of that technology and owning it is extremely important. So, like, if the Gab guys had to focus their energy and anything, just keep doing that, because that really matters. If I can provide a very brief history for people, the reason Gab became unusable was because it immediately out of the game. was being attacked by state actors, probably Israel.

Among others, NATO was dedicating a huge amount of resources to subversion and intelligence operations there as well. And there were just continual, continual network disruptions against it, network shatter operations taking place. I have three articles on my substack talking about some of the stuff from those days.

But there's also another thing that happens, which is something that is very dangerous, and it is the walled garden. You have people that have been banned everywhere, and there's great people there who are very thoughtful, and you get to see real debate, real information. So, like, Matt Bracken, who's, like, Uber boomer,

awesome guy on X for years would argue with anti-Semites on GAV and now he's he's like realism posting on X because it's it's just it wears you down

after a while. And to his point is like you don't have to you shouldn't have your primary Mission B restoration of you know a foreign symbols and so on as like your reason for being, right? Like you have a real mission, which would just turn into just continual dog piles.

And it was pointless. But the reason I mention all this is that you also get people who are so broken and battered and shattered that everything is about defeatism. Everything is about, you know, if you have any hope whatsoever, you're coping and so we're going to dogpile you and you're you know you're just like you know a libitart for trump et cetera that is a mentality that we have to like strenuously avoid because that's that's poisonous uh that's a poisonous defeated mindset um and so that kind of thinking is something that we have to issue um while also you know exploring alternative

and focusing on doing our own thing. Because again, like you said, Thomas, there's a lot of people who are just posting their board during the day. There's literally no value to their thoughts. If you're just shit posting, if you're just dragging lib tards, like that's one thing. But if you're just attacking anyone who's talking about a topic in another area, that's someone who's useless and a net drain on anything you're doing. And you got to get rid of those people.

Well, you got to take them aside and talk to them. It would be like, do you want to be part of this thing? Do you want to actually do something? Or are you just going to be posting? Yeah. And like I said, I, you know, I'm probably more intolerant of people than a lot of my fellow man. But that's one of the purposes. I, vestigial purposes of conventional social media is it's a, it's a, it's a,

filtering mechanism because like people who avidly fuck with it are are generally chum and they they're fucking useless and um they're just they're just goofballs want to want to bitch about stuff you know or um and it's it's essential i'm not saying everybody has to agree with me either i mean i do my own thing and i'm trying to build my own faction around that tendency you know i this has nothing to do with being a conservative you know conservative you know conservative is fucking boozy fucking bullshit you know and anybody who's locked into that is is one of the others and that I that they've got nothing they don't bring anything to the table you know like what what why why would

you associate with people like that you know um because people like have this idea that they need like they need 50 million people in order to get get what they want you know. Well, they just want to be part of, uh, they, they, they're, uh, they're a bunch of females who, they, they, they don't want it to be like naughty to say the word nigger anymore or something. So they've got to convince a raw majority is that, you know, they can, is that it becomes socially acceptable because then, the, then neighbors won't think bad things about them having bad thoughts. Democracy, I mean, say, just, he said democracy enjoyers.

Yeah, no, exactly. It'd be like, if it'd be like a guy like Billy Wright or Gusty Spence saying like, yeah, we, you know, we need to sit down with the Tories and, you know, really, really coordinate with them. You know, there's absolutely, I've absolutely no interest in associating with breaking bread with or having anything to do with conservatives. I mean, I don't know why people can't get this through their head, you know, but, um, you know so that to people we we we've got to develop means that you know subtly code for outlaw sensibilities and you know deterring people who aren't with that kind of programming from you know deciding that they're somehow on side with us and well like I said I think it's basically working things are a lot better now than a couple years ago man and I think it's

becoming clear to like the fuck wads that they don't belong with us and we don't like them so yeah the amount of people who um who think that like politics beyond the town they live in or even if they're in a if they're in a good state like national politics is somehow hey if we just get our guys infiltrated there you know they won't all become pedophile faggots like everyone else who goes up there and Jew worshippers. Sure. Yeah. I'm sure they're not going to.

You know, you already see so many of them who used to be on side, who are like taking Jewish money now and say, say things like, with Jews you win, you know, we just, we,

we, it'd be like, it'd be like, it'd be like some guy like Solvonitze and or like Melenza or some of these sem is that guys. It'd be like a suddenly, you know people were acting like befuddled that they weren't trying to get

jobs with the Communist Party you know like I it's you're either on site with the regime you're not you know and this I you know like I said I don't understand that's one of the reasons why I fly the flag I do is uh

because I've tried to make it as clear as possible that you know this is not this is this is an outlaw tendency it's an anti-regime tendency it's not it's not it's not it's not It's not the Mitt Romney faction of the Republican Party.

But, you know, motherfuckers can't get it through their head somehow. Amazing as that is. Yeah, I think with this 250th anniversary, I'm starting to see a lot of guys, like, I don't know how to put it double down on conservatism. Well, yeah, they're figs. Like, in order to, like, to be excited about this. Like to be like to be not excited about the 250th as it's like the greatest thing ever is is truning out or I just don't understand the headspace that you have to be in for you to look at it and be happy instead of a reminder of why you should be outraged. Like I don't think doubling on conservatism is the way to go. If you're, I, if you're, if you're, if you identify as a conservative, I assume, I assume you're a member of Nambla and you also shove gerbils up your asshole. I mean, like, that's basically what you're telling us. If you say you're a conservative and you like the, the 250 celebration, because it, it, it, like, because that, that 250 represents, like, the number of Jewish dicks, Donald Trump has sucked. But, like, I, like, I, you know, so, I mean, you're, you're telling us a lot about yourself if that's, like, what you're into.

You know, as the equivalent is saying, like, I like Nambla, you know, or, uh, or something on the head order. Okay. I have to say, I, I enjoy the classical aesthetics, but I'm equally torn, right? And, and so, so I tend not to get super upset about it. But the people who are acting like, uh, using, using, you know, my weakness, which I openly, and confess as entreeism to be like, you know, and this is why, you know, the true conservatives, you know, like, you know, the fucking Israeli shills and everything, you know, are who believe in a strong America.

It's like, bro, they literally have Cash Patel's Mossad girlfriend, Handler's, fucking Star-Spangled thing. Oh, that's brutal. That's brutal. That's so awful. So, so like let me feel, let me feel devastated while enjoying some of the aesthetics, but let me feel. I mean, there's nothing wrong with like in the four July. Before the July is a positive holiday and stuff. Exactly. I always call it Independence Day. I go out of my way to call it Independence Day.

Oh, yeah. I always wear the bloodstained banner. That's right. Yeah, we're, we're putting up flags in the backyard. And, you know, my wife is like, okay, Confederate flag. Alabama flag Appeal to Heaven flag She's like Okay, we need an American flag back there Which one do you want?

I'm like 13 stars Yeah, you know Exactly, man, exactly 13 stars Exactly 100% That agrees with my disposition Pete, I like that

Yeah, so no, there's nothing wrong I like the 4th of July man I mean one of the Um one of the One of the uh One of the reasons I was

to go is I'm going to go to be to BLT and go spread good cheer with my magic bag to my friends at the landmark and then oh yeah I want to thank you guys again and including burden although he's not undecutus burden's been putting in crazy work on on editing the manuscript and so I want to thank him and all you fellows for helping me with that that's huge man anyway but especially because I've you know I've been feeling unwell and stuff, man. It, but yeah, on that,

on that, no. I linked up with the burdens last weekend. Yep. Burden and Mrs. Burden and, I guess, brother-in-law, Burden are going to come see me on Sunday, so I'm excited. But, yeah.

Yeah. He's looking jacked. Yeah, he's like the, it's the burden tour, which is pretty cool. It came out a couple years, I took him to the Art Institute and we had a lot of fun. I mean, I always have fun when Bird was on deck. But I was hoping, like I told him, I'm like, look, man, I'm like, if you want to come in on the fourth prop or, uh, and do the downtown thing,

I'm like, I'll take you around, but I'm like, I'd really rather not do that because it's, there's, there's going to be a lot of, uh, there's going to be a bunch of, like, unwashed, like, Walmart people as well as a bunch of like, simian, like, teens, like doing dumb stuff. And, uh, even the best of times, it's just, like, mobbed in the, in the, in the loop on the fourth but he's like no no nothing like that so yeah I'll uh I'm sure

I'm sure I'm gonna Jean and Georgette's what's out Gene and Georgette's man that's my favorite rest that's my favorite steakhouse literally in the in the country Peter Louvreuz has fallen off so in case anybody's wondering one of the best steakhouses in the country is in Chicago I like Rana Japan man

like uh really yeah Ronna Japan is my favorite steakhouse unironically um I don't have to check that out Well, we'll be up there in September, so you're going to have to take us. Yeah, we'll see. Well, I mean, well, yeah, no, I mean, we'll have my birthday. It'll be my treat, but now I'm, now I'm intrigued.

Yeah, well, I, speaking to which, after the fourth, I'll, I'm going to start making concrete plans for the party, and I'm going to shout it out and stuff. Like I said, I found that two months is kind of the sweet spot. It got shorter than that, it's not of notice for people, but longer than that, and they just, like, forget about it. so um yeah i gotta get with you on that and yeah we'll coordinate you figure it out yeah i think me you stormy and um and jerry needs to coordinate on that so yes we will do that and uh but speaking of food i'm feeling really faded man i'm gonna go i'm gonna go eat and stuff um forgive me from being

abrupt we'll keep talking yeah yeah i appreciate you guys man and we'll uh i'm just gonna be chilling, man, on the actual fourth, because I'm saving my energies to entertain the burdens and stuff. So I'll hit you guys up tomorrow. I'm not saying I expect you on the holiday to put in work, but we'll touch base and stuff. And, yeah, just let me know when this is all edited and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, happy Independence Day, everybody. Happy Independence Day. Happy Independence Day. Hey, Gary Thomas. Yeah, you too, buddy. So Carl, about your beacon score. My beacon score. Yeah, you and I need to work on some strategies for raising your credit score up.

Oh. You're always so late. Yeah, man. I'm just implying that, you know, Carl has terrible black people credit because of his inability to get anywhere on time. I don't think I actually wanted to help him. I don't think I got the link. actually. How about this?

Did you guys see that that the guy who tried to make it legal in California for like for people who have AIDS to just give other people aids and not have to tell them and

Oh, Scott Wean. Consequence, Scott Weiner. Did you see that he, did you see what's happening to him? Yeah. I love it. Literally. Yeah. Mark Levin

is tripping the fuck out because basically now five in a row, you can't be a Democrat running for Congress and support Israel. They've lost five. I mean, some of these were really safe seats, like the one in Colorado. The ladies had like five or six terms. And these are safe seats for APEC lovers for a very long time. And Mark Levin is tripping out because he's, that exact same energy is coming from the right. Like here, I'll read a few. You guys familiar with the guy, Brandon Whitegert. He's been making the rounds.

He's been on Tucker. He was on Tom Wood Show yesterday, actually. He was talking about how Mamdami gave this speech and he goes, look, it's a great speech. He's dynamic. The GOP is cooked because there's a bunch of young Dems coming up who act and sound like him. Meanwhile, the GOP keeps bombing the mid-Dombs. used to giving tax cuts to the oligarchs they finally got what they wanted they kicked the populace down and out yep yep and the same exact thing is going to happen to them too yeah like uh i had a phone call

from a i think i talked to you guys about this a while back uh from a person running you know who is currently uh at the uh the the the head of a very large state Senate and is making the very likely jump into national politics at the senatorial level. And he's like everywhere I go, I get asked about Israel. Every single place, every stop, every place that I go, 20 kids line up and they want to know about how much money I'm taken from A-PAC. They want to know, you know, what my views on Israel are. He's like, why do the young people care so much about this? I was like, how much time do you have?

It's the same thing on the right. And I don't know how you come back from it. Don't get me wrong, Mom Dani is literally just Michael Bloomberg's proxy. So he is just another tool of the Jews. But it's a different kind of Jew, the kind that's not. not so big on Zionism. If you notice there's a difference in origin, I think you're starting to actually see like a big beef between like the German and the and the Ashkenaz.

I mean, that's that that's ongoing. That's been going up for a very, very long time. I mean, Kissinger hated them. Kissinger was German Jew and he couldn't stand them. and he's not the only one of the german jews who um what's that who's that one that um that set that i just i just started i bought and started going over um what the hell is his name history of the jews by uh greats he was a he was a german jew i mean this guy this guy i mean the ostuden he couldn't hate them anymore. I don't think it's possible for like, I mean, it's wild. Is it here the way they talk about

the way they say. And also all the young Jews, right? Like the young Jews don't want to say they're fucking Zionists. They don't want to support Israel. So you got the German Jews and the young Jews trying to distance themselves from Israel. Like it's fucking over. It's over. And then they're, of course, you know, trying to deal with the fucking. German ones and the young ones later. But go ahead, Carl. Yeah, I was saying that, yeah, and then they're trying to control, you know, well, you can't be anti-Semitic, but you can be opposed to Zionism and do all that.

So they'll just wear out their welcome from that angle as well because you can't, you can't help but have it happen. It's just, it's just, we're in the flow of time at this point. It's just the way it is. Well, Mark Levin tells me that Judaism and Zionism are indistinguishable. So how about I can't tell who is right? I'm not a Jewish scholar. So I guess I'll have to ostracize both.

I'm going to just believe him. I mean, he's crashing out so hard, too. I mean, any Republican politician who refuses to denounce the woke right Jew haters, not only will never get my vote, but I will work tirelessly to defeat them. Yet we know this about you. we know that you'll become a Democrat. We know that you'll become a Republican. We know that you will become whatever you have to be

because you're neither and you're not an American. You're a Jew. That's it. Thank you for confirming you've lost control of the DNC. Now we can help you lose control of the RNC. Yeah, exactly. As well as your own bowels. Like, I mean,

the level of like Hebrew freak out I see daily now is did any of you guys catch that conference that was in Israel but recently that they were they were nice enough to record on and live stream for everyone what is it the JNS or something? They've been doing that like crazy. They just like they is this is a in us huh yeah it's just i was bummed for a while when the con when their old

conferences started going viral on social media they took them all down yeah but they only do it reactively they put them up and then people react and then they take him down too late we got them archived we got the clips yeah fucking they always go too far they oh this is what happens when they get power. You know, the difference now, obviously, is that the, you know, is that they have nukes and, you know, they have a, they have a country. But, I mean, it's still the same exact thing as Kemmelnitsky. It's still the same exact thing as Weimar. It's still the same exact thing everywhere they've ever, this has ever happened, wherever they've decided that they've gotten a little bit of power. They just move, they go too far. You mentioned something on Tim Kelly's pod recently,

Pete, that I thought was really good. You went over what the Ukrainian and Polish Jews did when they thought the Mosheyeak was right around the corner because a lot of the Shabod Jews basically believe the exact same thing now. Yeah, it was 18, it was 1648. They, it was they were like proto-Sabotians and they believed that the Messiah was coming. So they just started killing Gentiles. Like they just started slaughtering Gentiles. And Kemmelnitsky and his Cossacks came in and said, well, we got to stop this. And Kemal Niski is, Kemal Niski is second to Hitler with them. Like if you mentioned Kemal Niski to a Jew, they'll know exactly who you were talking about. oh yeah because he he came in and he they say oh he slaughtered 35 000 it's probably like 20

it was probably like 2,000 2,500 not enough they were killing people i mean they were literally slaughtering people because they thought their messiah was coming and what have they been doing for the last three years they've just been incinerating human beings in high death and cooking up, you know, white hairless cows. Everyone jokes about the cow thing, but it's what it is is a symbol of exactly what Pete is talking about. They think it's right around the corner that the big guy is coming right around the corner, and that means they basically go into overdrive mode. So the fact that this is coming about right at the...

a time of, we'll call it mass Semitic you know, realization, couldn't be better for us. Like, everyone says, because I don't like the fucking, I didn't,

I thought the 250th was less dignified than it could have been. And before I catch any fucking heat and say, like, oh, I hate the chuds or whatever. No, no, no. I don't hate UFC or Motor cycle jumping, but we're the United States of fucking America, right?

I don't, we don't have to do backyard or front yard wrestling. We should have built the Coliseum and had fights in it. Look at what we did for the world's fair. We built entire, you know, Renaissance era, you know, complete with Venetian canal systems. We built whole cities. We built giant statues. all across the country for just the world's fair and we had to anyways like everyone says i'm blackpilling i couldn't be more white pilled i really couldn't exactly they're only saying

you're blackpilling because their plan is trump trump's going to save us and if you're not down with the Trump is, Trump is going to save us, then you're blackpilling. Yeah, it's faggot. That's exactly what it is. It's pure faggotry. It's, I mean, literally, take his dick out of your throat. There are no difference than the Iran war guys. Anything.

His Supreme Court just fucking upheld and said, yeah, birthright citizenship, you know, is in the 14th Amendment, you know, birthplace citizenship, basically. And, and immediately the fucking. cope is, well, it didn't change anything. It's the same thing as yesterday. Oh, you mean the same thing that's destroyed us? So we just keep getting destroyed, right? Oh, well, you know, they can, there'll be another thing.

There'll be another. Now, the purpose of the system is what it does. Yep. You're like, oh, no, we have to continue to color within the lines. Like, literally you're celebrating 250 years of a rebellion. when the founders of the country, the people that instigated that rebellion, fully expected there to be a completely, you know, a complete revolution in how America is governed by force every two decades,

every three decades, right? Like the fact that we have had the same government for 250 years would be considered a failure in the eyes. of the people that framed the Constitution. Whenever it wasn't fit for service, the people were to throw off the government and build one that did suit their purpose. So the fact that we have 250 years,

150 of it, 100 of it easily serving somebody else's interests, all the 250th should mean to you is that we're 100 years late, or what the founders would have preferred we do. Like every single one of them was no fan of government. Any exist, any institution. So like to celebrate the founders, but then also celebrate 250 years of the same institutions

while complaining that those institutions are broken and don't work. Like you're missing the point of what the whole thing was about. Right. We should not as Americans celebrate the longevity of these fucking institutions. We should mourn that they haven't been torn down. Yeah. It's like Mark Levin saying he defends, you know, he's this great defender of veterans and stuff. Give me a fucking break. Yep.

There shouldn't be any Pentagon defenders. There shouldn't be any White House defenders, president defenders. That attitude is un-American, right? It's basically oriental in its nature, like the worshipping of institutions as conveying some type of magical status. or magical power or the worshipping of individual leaders as individuals that convey any type of magical power. This is what I would think to see in some conate in Uzbekistan. Americans hate government. Americans hate politicians. That's who the founders were. sort of tell me that I need to love Donald Trump.

I need to love the White House. I need to love the Supreme Court and the Congress and the way that we elect officials and the 100th senator. Like, you're fucking an American. Every single one. Like, you can't read the Federalist Papers. You can't actually read the writings of any of these guys

post the founding of the country and come away with that. we should be excited about a government that doesn't serve us existing for a quarter of a millennia. You're the same people that are, you know, GOP fagging. If you love your country, you should be counting down the days that this structure of government slips its mortar coil, if not actively pushing it in any way you can. That is the most American thing to do. It's so gay.

It's just so gay. I could see getting paid to do it. There's people out there who are doing it for free. I can't do a recording without getting fucking tons of DMs front to telling, like, okay, so I've truned out. I'm wrong. whatever, why do you keep telling me this? Am I a loss, or are you a missionary? Just type back brown hands type this.

It's worse when you know it's white hands. I've had this happen to a ton of people. You are angry at me for not supporting the executive branch of the government in which it's like the FBI. Like, I have to celebrate an Indian, because it's not, the president doesn't do fuck all. It's an entire apparatus of literally a million people, 90% of which hate you,

with 10% being, I don't know, indifferent and just wanting a paycheck. Yeah. All right. Like Donald Trump just got the power supposedly from the Supreme Court right now to fire federal employees just now. So that means like the Trump admin is literally just the Biden admin plus, I don't know, two dozen people. He may not end up firing anybody.

Like, if you don't know what the fucking government is, don't tell me to support it. Like liberals don't know how fucking economics works. And conservative rightoids don't know how fucking government works. Well, I mean, there's a lot of people who just don't understand politics. political theory and then when you'd tell them, hey, maybe you should read this book. They're like, no, no, no, I'll read Heinlein or something like that. That's where I'll get my political theory from. I'll post Hitler edits and tell you to vote Trump.

How about I do that instead? You're truning out. Like, if you post a Hitler edit and you tell anybody to vote for anything that is on our current slate of options, you're a faggot. sorry. It doesn't mean voting in itself is stupid. It doesn't mean creating political parties that have to operate through the democratic process. It's stupid.

Hitler was elected into office on the back of a cultural movement. So that's what you should be advocating for. Everybody says like, oh, we only have two parties. Okay. well then I guess maybe the system doesn't need to exist anymore. What did Washington tell you about political parties? Everyone should read George Washington's quote, is in his farewell address.

His greatest fear that America would fall into a two-party system. He said it would surely be destroyed. Yeah, what did he say about entangling alliances? Yeah. I think he just meant Jews. Because that's how I interpret it. Yeah, there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of,

of rabbit homosexuals who will like, like pull out this John Adams quote about, um, about the Jews and he's being complimentary. And they'll leave out like the last sentence where he goes, and they have to become Christians. Sorry, they have to stop being Jews.

Yep. Like, like, I can't support a thing that... Okay, so, like, what are you in opposition to then? Right? Like, if... Are you in opposition to Democrats?

You're a Republican, bro. Congratulations. Like, what you are in opposition to needs careful reflection. And that'll maybe tell you where you're supposed to be, which probably isn't here. On different news, though, boy, oh boy, are we growing? Mm-hmm. Like, in real life, it's crazy.

Like, I see, like, high school kids with fucking black sun stickers on their car. I don't know what's happening, but I like it a lot. I've seen, like, two or three of them or the cross in the circle. You get a lot of that too. And only some of them are pickup trucks. I saw one on the, I saw a black son on a fucking Kia, Santa Fe.

Great. I'm down for it. It's hard out there for Zoomers, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. Literally as Donald Trump's

press secretary. Shames. You already know what I'm going to say, right? Gen Z is lazy. They're born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and that if they misbehave, they should be sent to Iran and sent to Cuba. This is coming from a bitch who is literally in a sexual relationship with a 60-year-old man. Washington, D.C. just needs to be destroyed.

No cool person lives there. No person that deserves your support lives there or exists there. Yeah. Something our friend, our friend Paul Fahrenheit has said is, is that if you're going to have a central power base, it's got to, you have to move it out of Washington, D.C. And move it to somewhere that is American, which is, you know, more place like Texas or something like that. I've been hearing so much cope about this. like, oh, we need to save the blue states because the blue states are the culture creators. Like, the one good thing about the 20, the 250th bullshit is that it's kind of forced

a debate that keeps on coming up and coming up and coming up. But I think it's gotten further than it used to is where does culture come from? And a lot of people have been like, oh, well, culture comes from the blue states, like New York and California, where all the movies are. Retarded. Culture is downstream from the state religion. Culture is downstream from the state religion. I mean, also...

If you look at the culture now and you see something that just is unrecognizable to the founders, the state religion is no longer Christianity. Yeah. And I mean, Dave Green is getting really angry at me right now. Dave Green, I am sorry. I'm sorry for, you know, disagreeing, but I don't think it is. I don't think culture comes from urban centers at all, actually, let alone wherever they're located. You know, West Coast, Hollywood types or, you know, Berkeley, San Francisco, tech types, or

or New York City, you know, Madison Avenue fucking advertisers. It doesn't. Kallergi said it does. Calergy says that the cities are the culture creators.

And Hitler said it wasn't. It was the opposite. And then Hitler proved it. Culture comes from the hinterlands. American culture is a frontier culture. You can see that in all the,

the reason that the dissonance is happening, to your point, why our culture is so far skewed from where the average American is psychologically and why it reeks of just being foreign, right? Yes, it's weird, yes, it's gay, you know, but it's alien. It is all those things,

But when you look at it, before you make any other realization about it, you know, it's not yours. And we didn't see this in 19. The difference really became the time where you basically saw the cementing of Jewish power in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. That's when the culture radically started splitting off, like kind of like a K-shaped from, where regular people were like the american was and this is why this is why you know people think it comes from urban centers yeah exactly urban centers because if i go to like your 1950s movies 1950s culture it was based every fucking television show was just a western or a western taking place in somewhere that wasn't the wild west look it's westerns

and westerns in the desert it's westerns in world war war war war war two It's Westerns in a hospital. The movie Bullet is literally just a Western with a car chase. Yeah. That's what that movie is. A Western in San Francisco. Yep. Yeah.

And because that's where American, that's where the culture of the country actually came from was the hinterlands. It's the Chuds. The Chuds make culture, right? They dictate what the culture of the nation is. It's based on their customs, their traditions. That culture is refined in urban centers. It is not created in urban centers.

But the refined product, the finished good, so to speak, comes out of the urban centers. So it's very easy to believe that that's where the culture originated from. And the very first thing that Hitler did was base his political political party around the culture as it was in the hinterlands. And you're like, oh, well, that's not high culture and da-da-da-da-da-da. Yes, that's correct. I mean, Carl, Pete, you know all about the cultural efforts of the NSDAP post getting into power. They brought the high culture back to common folk, right?

This stuff isn't exclusive to, you know, urban cities. Right? The common man that lives in the hinterland enjoys opera, right? Enjoyes classic music just as much, it turns out, as the urban, you know, socialite sophisticate. He just doesn't have access. And lo and behold, when you bring them in on trains and buses or whatever, you let them have access to these cultural products for free? It turns out the guy, you know, working the fields in Bavaria really, really likes opera, really, really likes classical

music, wants to actually participate in the refined product. So I think the dialogue about the 250th should be less about where the cultural byproducts or the cultural finished products come from, but where the actual culture comes from. And as long as that is preserved, the culture factories don't matter. They can be rebuilt anywhere. They can be rebuilt in Texas. They can be rebuilt, you know, in Wyoming.

It doesn't really matter. As long as that hinterland culture is preserved. guys like Braxton, whatever, you know, people like joke and say it's a larb. Like that guy needs to keep on doing exactly what he's doing. Yep. Right. Everybody needs to keep on living exactly how you would have like 100 years ago in the places that you came from. Like that needs to be preserved.

We can rebuild culture as long as we have that. I don't know about the destructions of the small towns. That makes me sad. Well, I mean, it just depends. It depends what people in those towns are going to concentrate on. If they're still thinking, oh, you know, I'm going to go about my life and just vote for the president. Vote for the president. Well, then there's a good chance your town is going to get outsourced to India.

Yeah, go to hell. But if you concentrate on local politics and, you know, building up a, you know, building up a, you know, building up a, a bull. work against against federal intrusion, then, you know, you have a chance to survive all of this. And, you know, there's going to be a lot of, there's going to be a lot of places that won't because they're just going to keep, you know, jamming

the next Republican president's stick down their throat. So many of these states and so many of these big, you know, urban counties rely entirely on federal government. money, which is going to come to an end. Oh, yeah. Right? Like a lot of these places, I mean, I know you and I were looking at once how much, how much money in bond issuances these counties and these cities and these states have been doing.

And it's more than anyone really can even imagine. Right? Your town, your small town is probably billions of dollars in debt with no way of paying that. So, like, even the towns that are all fucked up, there's going to be tremendous opportunity when these things go bust. Like, a town bankruptcy is fantastic if you have capital on the side and you're the one with boots on the ground. You'll actually be able to get a hold of public assets.

And getting a hold of public assets is de facto political power. The guy that controls the water treatment facility has power. All of these things, I mean, you're already starting to see it in places like in certain counties in Texas or are you starting to go default. The things that happened in Jackson, Mississippi, and I forget what the name of that town was up in Michigan. I mean, it just really just goes to show you that you're, how dangerous it is, how, how, how, how, how, you know, if you're not concentrating locally. I mean, you're, you should be worried about your water supply.

Yep. There are a lot of things that you should be worried about. And if you're in a city and you think, well, I mean, they got that taken care of. Well, good luck.

I mean, good luck. The rich people that live in that city, they can leave in a second. They have an out. You know, what do you have? the best thing I think the regime ever did was exclude white men from corporate jobs.

It's the shittiest in the short term. But those are the guys now that have the ability to locate themselves where they want. They're the guys now that have had to find other ways of making money that are not centralized. Yep. All right. Like, there are whole towns in beautiful, demographically pristine places like Vermont, New Hampshire, where a house with a couple acres, a very nice house with a couple acres, is sub-400 grand. The states, Maine, too, right? It would take absolutely nothing to take over that state government. Absolutely nothing. Same with a lot of these states.

like the states that are nominally live-tard states are also very, there's some that are very, very sparsely populated, and it takes very little political organizing. And I'm not going to advocate for voter intimidation because that would be

bad. But if anybody were to do that, it would be very easy to do in such a location. I mean, if they start busing in the Somalians, it doesn't take much. I wonder I wonder if we could convince ice to sell like ice blazers, like as official merch to where

you're not actually impersonating an ice guy, you're just a guy in an ice blazer, or sorry, like an ice windbreaker, like you just go to vote in your blaser, or sorry, in your, in your windbreaker, and every fucking Mexican is going to haul ass. You can probably get a lot of mileage out of wearing ice merch ice guys dhs guys if you're listening if you're cool dhs guys if you're listening sell merchandise please oh you can buy them can you yeah they're not like official but you can buy them oh hold on i need to find i'm going to wear an ice blazer to my nearest polling station or sorry an ice windbreaker i don't know why i keep saying that yeah don't wear a blazer, especially now it's a fucking heat wave. Yep.

Spice. There we go. I can, I can, I can, I can buy several. Wow. You can buy them for you and your boys. La Miga. I get to, I will become La Miga and it'll also look stylish while doing that. Is it Army Universe is the main link that comes up for you? Yeah. Get the Navy boot blue boys and girls. girls get the navy blue oh there's a website literally called fed apparel this is

amazing it's it's it's not yeah it is it is not um impersonating is just stylizing it is like you said merch yeah this is why I'm saying if they did official merch man like it would be great good luck trying to say I'm just big fan of the girls government yeah huge fan i'm just here to vote vote by shit that conservatives refuse to do alaween they'll sell stu'd every long but yeah my nicest my nicest windbreaker happens to be my ice windbreaker and it is very windy out today and i just want to come here to vote i don't know know why all the short brown people are running to the parking lot. That's sad. I hope I don't

smell. But yeah, I think that there is put on your ice windbreaker, run your errands, Home Depot, Walmart. 100%. Yeah. You want the easy, everyone's complaining about like the, uh, like the Costco shopping experience now saying it's like Somalia or whatever. Go shopping in your ice windbreaker. It'll be like Moses parting the Red Sea. How has no one done this yet? But I don't know. I saw an article go around. I can't remember which one of our guys put it out,

basically decrying how he tried to like move back to his, you know, hometown and just couldn't make it work. Turns out it's in like upstate New York or whatever. Like, yeah, places with high income taxes. High property. taxes you can manage, right? Are you thinking of that Hick-Lib guy? What's his name?

Yeah. He's basically a bum, and he's like, everyone should be a bum, but you should also move back to, you know, and create these intentional communities, and where does he go? Upstate New York. In a place that's completely been just gutted since the 50s. And it's like, don't, people with experience with these kinds of areas. know why people leave them. You know, there's some that are recoverable.

The ones that are within like a commuting distance of, you know, you know, small to medium-sized towns with, you know, that aren't completely overrun. You know, those sorts of places are great. It's, but it's just a totally different, it is a people of Walmart scenario a lot of the time. Because if a place is completely, destroyed and there's no jobs.

There's no pride. Check out Burma, New Hampshire. It's on the north side of the White Mountains and is probably the whitest place in the world, but also it has endured a ton of shrinkage as the boomer population dies out. It's a very small town. You and 20 of your friends, you know, 50 of your friends could literally become king of the town.

I'm looking here. I'll drop some in the chat because you're not going to fucking believe me. New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont. These are these are places that, I mean, I think Maine has got some Somalis now. But they were the towns in Vermont and Maine and New Hampshire were the ones that dispelled the whole myth, the whole conservative boomer myth of Democrat. If it has if you're trying as a Democrat mayor, you're going to have crime. Um, no, actually.

Um, New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine actually disprove that. We know why, we know why cities have crime as a matter of fact. And it has nothing to do with the, the party of the mayor. Bro, this is 350 and 450k right now. There's many even cheaper. Hmm. 97 sorry 98% white on three acres um yeah three bedroom two bath 2100 square feet very classic looking home yeah built in 1993 but built to look like uh have a style almost like a what would that be called like a

Floreshaker. No, I'm not a northeastern year. I'm trying to think of the term for it. Yeah. Which one? The 389 one? Yeah. That's a Dutch farmhouse.

Thank you. Yes. And it has a slate roof, which will literally last forever. That's sick. That's awesome. A slate roof. Yeah. And there's another one for 269.

on two acres. Surrounded by state parks. And white people. And public land. And white people. Hunting and fishing everywhere. Okay, that's pretty sick. And it's all throughout the area.

Like, here's another one, $2.99. Yeah, that's the move, man. So I can tell, let me tell a little story. Please. The, you know, I hate the whole you have to keep moving thing to go where the work is, to go where the economy is good, to go where, you know, X, Y, Z. But in fairness, you do have to be strategic. And the most important thing is to go where you have people is my, the biggest thing is you have a network. You can't run away to live in the woods by yourself.

You have to have the right people, right? And if you have enough of the right people, that's great. Like, you can actually have a life there. I've seen so many people try this thing where they move to the middle of nowhere, and it doesn't work out and they come back poorer, right? They lose a lot of money on these sorts of things. In the same way, a lot of us are very familiar with moving to different cities. I spent 10 years in a city or the burbs of that city that was seeing explosive growth from people from all over the place.

And the average person I would talk to who was my age-ish, you know, like young parents, let's say, had jumped. They're like, oh yeah, we spent a couple years in Austin and we, you know, after going to like grad school in Boston, and then we were in North Carolina and now we're here and I think we're going to move to here. And it's like that is insane. But what those people, those people haven't figured out a strategy. They haven't figured out what they're trying to accomplish. They're looking for something, but they don't know what they're looking for. And so when we talk about these kinds of things like if there's guys in this area, in this state,

that you can plug into from an existing, like if you remember the old glory club, for example, we all network with each other, the different clubs network with each other. We have guys move from one place to the other and just plug into another crew and they have a social group. And that's the kind of thing that you have to look for. And the Hicklib guy who moves out there and is like,

you should all move with me? Like, first of all, the guy's socially retarded. So no, you don't want to do that. But non-socialally retarded people can plug into these things or like, again, this is one of the values of the internet is you find friends and then you can follow these patterns and move in these directions. Like Portland, Maine, around Portland, Maine, along the coast in the larger towns there, the cost of living has skyrocketed. But you can go a little farther out. And again, people aren't moving to New Hampshire because it's not as hip as Maine is right now. I'm sure there's people moving in New Hampshire and not saying much about it.

But like those are the kind of opportunities, is those edge cases. This house you're looking at is, holy crap, what is that like five, ten miles from Maine? So it's like, yeah, there's a lot of options like that. Here, check this one out, you'll trip. And demographically, these places matter. Oh, absolutely. Oh, that's someone's like ski retreat, someone who lives in New York or Connecticut. A beautiful colonial house for 250 grand.

Yeah. Or again, like right on, if you go to Maine, like Maine is cheap as fuck. Yeah. And it used to be much more cheaper as fuck. 4 bedroom 2,500 square feet built in 2008 on 2 acres 400 grand 2200 square feet 5 bedroom 2 bath on 10 acres 399,000 the other thing I'll say proper houses the other thing I'll say in fucking lakes how does that how does it have so many lakes

How does everybody have a house on a fucking lake? How can I buy a lakehouse for sub-350 grand? Lasures, dude. So, yeah, that's it. So it's really interesting. The Pacific Northeast and the Pacific Northeast, sorry, the Atlantic Northeast and the Pacific Northwest, I think are going to be the future. And I think for most people, the Northeast is a little more feasible price-wise. the Pacific Northwest is insane.

Not for much. Yeah. I foresee some dramatic deflation in your future, Carl. I do too. And because a lot of the like like so stormy you pointed out, you were one of the first people that I talked to who said software is dead. And that could that could not be more true. You know, developers are still important. They're still doing stuff.

But the getting rich off of software is over. It's just going to take a while to get there. Like when Thomas says it's over, it's ending, it could still take a while, but that is happening. There's just the economic considerations also of bringing a bunch of Indians to like Kirkland, Washington. just it's infeasible and you know people are very upset with the administration but things have changed significantly to where they thought they were the you know the rulers of the roost up there and now the Indians are all paranoid in these when they go out and they go places and people don't like them very much because of their behavior and stuff and they're starting to be like I think

I think people hate us and their scams are running out and there's a lot more investigatory activity going on around these areas. So I honestly think that we're going to see over the next couple years. Now, it depends on, you know, what happens two, three years from now. There's a lot of people who think they can just stick it out. But it'll be really interesting to see because, again, between, I just think the economic conditions are going to be a big part of it. Now, the problem is that India sucks so badly that the only thing you want to do when you're in India or Pakistan or Bangladesh is leave. So that's going to be something that's going to be very interesting to see how that plays out. A lot of people have left Israel because of the war.

I think Israel needs workers. I think they need Rajat. Yeah, they already don't. Don't even joke. Like, it's actually happening. They're trying to build a strategic partnership with. India. Yes. Exactly. It's amazing. I can't take people who were made for each other,

two groups of people who were more made for each other than those two. Oh, they absolutely are. Ooh, this place is sick. Yep, on 18 acres. Yeah. It's five minutes, or sorry, 10 minutes outside of a decent size time. Like, I really, And housing prices are only going to continue to go down. When you revisit this conversation in six months from now, it doesn't matter really where you live. Property prices have fallen 30% across the board.

And I got so much shit for this. But I don't know. Some of you guys, I mean, you two, you guys have been listening to me running my mouth for a fucking long time. I was saying this two or three years ago, like don't fret the housing prices. They are going to come down dramatically. That ship has already set,

like it's happening so like now is when you really want to start planning where you want to be at and this is why I think it's really awesome that guys are whether it's active clubs or organizations like the OGC like this is the perfect time for this type of stuff because guys are now it's now becoming cheap enough where you don't need to make a lot of money annually to get out somewhere safe And the best thing about AI is it pretty much nukes every single girl boss job. It just does. Can confirm it. Like this is what a lot of people, like this is also why we can't innovate.

A company is started by a single guy's idea. And he'll round up four or five other really. talented guys that he selects and this company will do innovative stuff six 10 people and then it you know becomes successful and then two or three years later that same company has got 200 people 400 people and the more and more people that this organization hoover's up the slower it moves the the dumber it becomes. All of those people are just in between the guy with the idea and executing, especially in anything technology, right?

Like all those 200 people, those are just there because the idea has gotten so big. It needs 200 monkeys pounding on keyboards to realize it. And then another 200 people like doing HR and bullshit. AI solves so much of this. An organization doesn't have to get big to achieve scale anymore. So all of these HR jobs, all of these fucking email jobs, none of that shit matters anymore. And I say that because the economic security argument that,

modern liberal feminism has made for women. That deal is being revoked. Yep. So not only is your safety not guaranteed, but your economic security isn't guaranteed either. And a girl in her 20s, a white girl in her 20s has maybe about a slightly better chance of finding a job than a young white guy in his 20s now.

except for all of the jobs that she is qualified for are all jobs that AI does much better and cheaper than her. So at the time that housing prices are coming down, they'll continue to go down. We're going to go back to pre-2018 levels. The median house price was 250K in 2017. I think family formation for us, for our type of guys, is going to really step into a world of possibility where it otherwise wasn't fucking regardless

of what Donald Trump does, regardless of what the Jews do, that's just the fucking math. So now all you really have to do is just show up, but you have to show up. I mean, just think about how big we're growing. Like, our ideas aren't fringe anymore. Yeah, you have a bunch of people complaining that, oh, oh, I know this really super big, guy, but he doesn't like the things Pete says on live stream, so he doesn't want anything to do with the old glory club. And I'm like, nothing I'm saying is out of the mainstream. Everything I'm saying is like in the mainstream now.

It's totally in the mainstream. So, I mean, if my, if me just chattering out mainstream talking points is a good filter, I'm fine with that. So what you're saying is this person is Jewish. Outside of that, everything else you talk about, Pete, is basically front-page news now. It's just a different spin that each party is going to put on it. All of the contradictions of the regime are being laid bare. Britain is the best place to look at that. And I really wish guys wouldn't actually look so much at, like, the British two-tier policing

and how horrible it is. because as bad stuff is happening here, it's just getting no play. I wonder actually why so much of it is focused on the UK right now, probably because the UK is continuing to try and start wars with Russia that the U.S. wants no part of. So I'm assuming, you know, destabilizing content is being boosted. There is as horrible, like, one of our friends, a friend of each one of us,

us that we know personally, when he got arrested, it was by fucking four Jets. And this is an Akron, Ohio, right? Like, basically a bunch of black guys were acting very black around his kids. And the police literally ran away from the black guys. Like, oh, no, we're scared, whatever. Then came to his house later for beating the shit out of them. after they ran away and arrested him. Like the two-tier policing shit happens in America just as much.

Oh, hell yeah. Of course. Everyone wants to shame the Brits over it, but I would say it's just this bad year, especially now with the amount of immigrants we have in our police force. Well, yeah, to your point, it makes you wonder,

like, what's motivating it because it's an algorithm. Like, there's no way. Like, we had Japan on the timeline, which was very wholesome. for a couple weeks and then it's you know a UK government atrocities which some of that is

Elon frankly and his sympathies but what what are they trying to actually accomplish here and these are that because we know that they can suppress it perfectly fine exactly so these are the things we need to think about you know yeah maybe Elon is going to finance your container ships full of weapons Have you guys been watching Elon's posting lately? Pretty edgy. Like, I try and watch his stuff on social media because that guy is basically taking... I mean, not only is the dude like...

Is it me or is he fucking like save the white race posting now? Yes. It's very interesting because of how that part of... society works. So like with Elon, somebody has big and call you'll you'll agree with a lot of this because you're adjacent to the same type of people. Everyone in tech is afraid to say something unless someone that everyone views as universally intelligent, i.e. successful and rich, start saying them. Yep. So what Elon is doing is basically giving permission for guys lower down the chain to say things like that at dinner parties and in public.

So like, you know, if the trillionaire says it, the billionaires can say it. The billionaires say it. Now the aspiring founders, right, the entrepreneurs that are starting new companies, now they can say it. Because the smartest person, you know, by value of how much money they've made he says it so everyone's like oh well he's just the guy he's not going to do anything about like he's just posting about it he's not like funding you know white army to reclaim it like a warlord no it's not what he's doing you're right he's giving permission yes to younger guys

that are on track to become very very successful to have that as something that they can say openly and organize around. Like, I don't give a shit what Elon says. I care about what the guys running the biggest company 10 years from now are going to be able to say and are going to be inculturated with, like, that's what matters. Exactly. And I'm hearing conversations that I haven't heard since before 2012, like realism type conversations in like,

not like business meetings, but in the kind of interstitial times and in, you know, business dinners with people all over the place, people complaining about the very obvious, uh, explosion of homelessness that is now starting in some places like Portland,

Maine, interestingly, uh, I have heard recently, you know, there's um there's a lot of room to operate and so we don't need these people like like the uh it was just the anniversary of the passing of our friend z man uh press f he used to always say smiling down from us in heaven exactly zeman hitler and jesus are smiling down there these things like no one is

coming to save us. It's up to us. And these people give people permission. And when permission is everything and perception is everything and people are tired of the same old shit. They're tired of the parasitical jeet, you know, possession of the technology branch and killing forward momentum on projects. They're tired of all that crap. And it's like, it's, they're not going to say it in the way that everyone thinks is the most wonderful, you know, and based. And they're not going to use the memes that, you know, the retards are demanding. I'm not saying retard right. I'm saying the retards.

I'm not going to, you know, reinforce that nonsense. you know, there's there's a lot of room to operate. And another thing I'll say, you know, kind of... You don't need VCs posting Hitler meetings. You just need them not funding Jeets. And I know a lot of them that are doing exactly that. Exactly. Because they just assume it's a scam now.

They just assume that it's just a scam to basically take their money, bring a bunch of their friends and family, which it has been for a very long time. For 30 years. Yep. But VCs not funding... Indians is new and very welcome. Very. That means somebody else is going to get those checks.

Yeah. And again, I'll say so, you know, I've told you about what's going on in the fam gentlemen. And I was having a conversation with my son, you know, and he's talking about, you know, what he's going to be doing, what some of his friends are going to be doing. And I've always said, look, the important. thing to understand as it relates to AI and

planning your future and what you're going to do for a living. You actually have a lot of room. The days of a floor in an office filled with developers are over. You are going to have to be a passionate developer and you're going to have to learn

the basics and then you'll be able to use AI to build on top of that and build things based on your vision and the good habits that you develop and the good coding skills that you develop are going to get you in these places much faster. It's passion and actual knowledge and drive. It's up to you. It empowers you as an individual, but you're not going to, the autopilot American, life is over and the autopilot American life thrived until very recently. And you just are not going to be able to do that anymore. You're going to have to actually believe in something.

You're going to have to actually care about what you're doing. And so go for it. And the other thing, too, that's really interesting is it used to be that if you had any tech skills whatsoever, people are like you need a job in tech. And now people are, you know, smart kids who have programming experience, for example, are like, well, I can study the law and then I can use my tech skills to, you know, develop things for firms and, you know, that I work at and I become, you know, irreplaceable. because not only do I have a legal education, for example, but I also have the ability to code and develop custom things that you can't buy off the shelf,

and then we don't have to buy things from people. We can use AI to spin up these things. And there's a lot of opportunities like that. So you're kind of going to have to develop a lot of this stuff on your own. You're going to have to bring your value to the table instead of just being like a smart guy who they're happy to train, right? Like all that stuff, all the old way of doing things is over, but there's a lot of opportunity.

Not for everyone. There's a great separating taking place, but you're going to have to just get with it. And you're not going to be moving to some hipster city, you know, to work at a regular corporate job those days are gone. You have to be self-driven, self-motivated.

You have to have more of that founder mindset just out of the gate. You're creating your own brand and your own enterprise. Congratulations. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know about you, Carl, but I see, I see at least in a lot of the soft touch companies,

I don't see it ever going, back to, I mean, just look at, just looking at fucking commercial real estate, it is a disaster. Yes. Like, buildings, huge, like, you want to buy, like, a 25-story office tower in Houston, you could do that for under two million bucks. These buildings are selling at 3% of their last sold value, something that's sold in 2018, 2017 for, you know, $50, $100 million is now barely able to get off the auction block for less than three. Why? Because so much of this is remote now.

Yep. A lot of it's never coming back. So being able to be in a place. And also, I've noticed something like there's a lot of, a lot of nude companies doing fucking, like, small materials and basically like real tangible thing businesses. Yes. In all types of cool locations. And a lot of there, like they'll have a facility and that'll be run by like three or four guys.

And the rest of the company operates remotely. So like the building things in America again, the small manufactured that made America famous, that's still like that and remote. working are not opposites. So there, I mean, has anybody looked at the SBA program now that it's eligible and primarily for white Americans? That would be a smart thing to lean into. I, I, I know people, I know you want to buy like 80 acres and then take an SBA loan for a real estate development opportunity and build homes for all your friends. You basically got two and a half years to get as much out of the treasury as possibly. Exactly. And you could do that with grants

by setting up nonprofits and applying for grants, whether they be art. I mean, there's so many different ways that this could be done. I know people who are doing this now. And it is really, I mean, I think we need to replace USAID with our own thing. Yeah. Well, I think all real, you know, white Americans have that libertarian streak of, no, we don't want to do this, but no, you want to do this because that's how, that's how they're getting the money to rule over you. You have to figure out the way to do it. You may only have two and a half years to do it.

Who knows whether you may. unfortunately, depending on what happens in the midterms. And I'm starting to change my mind about what might happen in the midterms. I don't know. I think some of this redistricting really actually may help. Oh, yeah. But still, it's like, if you're not operating with a sense of urgency right now, you're going to get left behind.

And there are people out there who are figuring things out. Like as we speak, as we're speaking here, they're figuring it out and they're going for it. And this is something that everybody should really be doing. But, you know, this is why you have to create a network. And if you're scared to be a part of a network or, oh, I heard that there might be someone in that network who has said something nice about a Jew once. then, you know, I mean, it's just, it's just excuses for failure. Yes. I really think that there are a lot of people out there who, and I get accused of this

all the time, who just want to complain. I mean, their whole thing is, look, all I have to do is predict that things are going to get worse and probably they're going to get worse. and I can lift myself up to be the person who was like, look, I got everything right. Everything got worse. And I told you it was going to get worse. What did you do in the meantime to make things better for yourself? Well, nothing because things are getting worse.

Well, that's not the attitude that everyone is taking. And you will get left behind and don't come crawling to us when you know, you're down to your, when you're just desperate. You could be doing shit right now. If you're not punching into an AI, like these are the things I'm good at. These are the things I want to do. Please outline all of the government grants

that I can be leveraging to do this. Then you're done. Pete is right. We do have a libertarian disposition. We make, you know, we make as little use of the of the state treasury as possible because we, you know, pay into it. But really, we're the only ones paying into it, right?

White guys pay 85% of the fucking taxes. Like, this is our money. And the attitude you need to have is, I'll be damned if I'm going to let some fucking Somalian take it. Yep. And build his little empire in my country. We need to be maxing the welfare state to the extreme. Because like Pete said, it's not going to be around for much longer.

Like that data Republican bitch, whatever, that was mapping all the USAID money, that she had this basically like spider map that was interactive that she took down because it didn't take you very long to figure out that majority of that USAID money was getting funneled to fucking Jewish groups. and then washed back and forth between other Jewish groups. So that's not around anymore. But if you want to know where all that USAID money went, check your local synagogue. Yep.

The system is not like the fucking regime is not going to be around very long. And it's damn sure not going to be in the position to be shelling out as much money as it is. Right? Your taxes aren't going down. So you need a claw as much of that shit back as possible. Right. The fucking Indian is going to use an SBA loan to buy the gas stations and the hotels in your town. Unless you do it first.

Right? Like the Somalian is going to set up with fucking SBA money and a bunch of other fucking grant money. Like healthcare companies. He's going to do a lot of Medicaid fraud. But you who. isn't going to do a lot of fraud, you could have used those same money to set up an actual healthcare company and take care of people in your community. Like, I don't know, I think we need to, the left is really good at being adversarial to the state, but then at the same time

of the mindset of siphoning off as much money out of the state as possible. Working it. Yes. This is a critical failure, I think. If you're a veteran, in. I mean, depending on like how much service you have, you can get up to 10 million from SBA loans, I think. If you stack them. Like, what are we, what to Carl's point about how you have to do your own thing, use the system to pay for it. Like, rich people don't spend their own money. They borrow against their assets and spend the bank's money. All right, well, their money is earning somewhere else for more than whatever they're paying an interest. That's how they got rich.

You can do the exact same thing. As long as your business returns more every year, then you pay an interest on your SBA loan. You are making money for free. Yeah. I'm sure this is just one program that I keep on harping on because it's the one that was top of mine, but I I guarantee you there's a dozen other programs, two dozen other programs that are spitting out free money for anybody willing to even show up.

Like Pete, I don't know. You said you knew somebody that was, you knew groups of guys that were doing exactly this. How many fucking different grant programs are they just no matter, like, I don't wanna know what they're doing specifically, but I guarantee whatever they're doing, there's at least four or five different grants programs that they qualify for.

You just gotta pick one subject. And here's the thing is the subject may be way out of, you know, something the average right-winger wouldn't think of. Something that would be more like historically you would think about the left being involved with. And then you just start searching for grants and you find out that they're endless. There's endless grants up there. I think one of the guys was saying that that complete for those for those of us who are old enough. I know that Carl remembers that psycho Matthew Lesko. Oh my goodness.

Everything he was talking about was true. Totally. There was totally free money just waiting. There was just free money waiting to be taken there. And like you just have to figure out how to do it because, you know, this is another one. of those things it's like okay you're not an insider no one you weren't raised in an environment where people were doing this you don't know how to do this on your on your 18th birthday how did you just go and get government money oh but that's money from the taxpayer shut the fuck up um you're the

taxpayer yeah um it there's it's endless it's once you start looking into it it's like holy shit I picked this one niche subject and there's like 150 grants available. There's a stupid fucking guy. There's a stupid leftoid. I don't think he's around anymore called like Jimmy Falun Gong. He had a podcast called Like License to Chill or something where he documents basically secret fascist networks or whatever throughout history. He took it down.

but in his very first episode, he says that this podcast was started with a $1 million grant from the Ford Foundation. A fucking podcast. Crazy. A million dollar grant to document fascism through history. I mean, how it would take all of two brain cells for one of us to figure out a very, very funny way of going about doing that. where maybe the message isn't the same as Jimmy Fallon Gong's but a million dollars to start a fucking podcast. Pete's not lying.

Get that money while you can. Yeah. It's just one of those things. It's going to be given to someone. Yeah, you got to decide you're going to do it. And why shouldn't, you know, why shouldn't it be us? Yeah, it's our fucking country. Someone will, it's the same guy.

that tells me like he's excited because you know so this is our country we'll sit ily some somali and gets fucking paid well and especially if you're you're one of those people who believes like this this all is going to crash at some point yeah i mean you you need to get everything that you can and turn it into something that is tangible like lands things like that a house, property, things like that. Now, obviously, if you're getting grants, it's going to have to be in the name, but you'll figure it out.

You'll figure it out. Yep. And you can use SBA loans to buy existing businesses. You want to get in the ammunition business? You want to get in the X, Y, Z business. You can use SBA loans to buy existing businesses, or else some fucking Indian is going to do it. That boomer that's about to die that doesn't have any kids to leave

this business to, you better fucking get on it. Like, yeah, Pete, you're 100% correct. It's a very condensed timeframe that we have to work with. And this money, like, I mean, I know you guys have listened to enough guys that, you know, worked on the defense side, every single budget in any bureaucracy gets spent to zero because if it doesn't get spent to zero, they get less money next year. So every single aspect of the federal government is designed to literally spend all the money every single year. So this money is going to be given to the

these grant-making agencies and that money is going to be given to somebody. Not taking it yourself doesn't mean that no one takes it. It just means that you don't get it. Somebody else will get it. And that fucking agency will damn sure make sure somebody does. Because if they don't, that means they don't get to ask for as much money next year from the federal team. And how much money they get is how much fucking

juice they have in Washington. So every bit of the bureaucracy is set up in a system that makes them actively try and give away all the money. Because if they don't, they can't ask for more. And they need to ask for more because the more they have to give out, the more clout they have. I'm not going to say that you should pretend to do this, but you use that you, you should. should hire on as a co-founder a black guy that smokes crack in your neighborhood. Because now 70% of government contracts are exclusively available to you. If you want to even work with the federal, because it's the other things that you can just, you can take money from grants. And you can also contract to the federal government or the state government. I know guys that

have made tens of millions of dollars doing basic IT, like, retard level. I mean, Carl, I know, I'm sure you know somebody that's done more of this than I have, but I know too, guys that have made a fuck ton of money doing generic IT support for state and federal government. Yes, I do. And they make a shitload. How much IT support are they actually doing? Would you say it's like the forefront of the cybersecurity freaking field?

Certainly not. Certainly not. And let's just put it this way. If you are, if you have a Spanish origin surname, regardless of any other characteristics of yours, you can get sweet deals with lived hard state governments, where you basically do nothing. It's quite impressive, actually.

And if you know how to use agentic AI, because you're a smart guy, you can literally have an AI be applying for thousands of these grants a day. While you're sleeping. Hint hint, hint, wink, wink. I mean, legally change your name to Deshawn Hakein Jackson and just go clean these Lid Tard states the fuck out. I don't, I mean, Carl, how hard is it to have a Mexican surname? As a Mexican yourself, is it inconvenience you in any way?

Not at all. Not at all. So there's no negative profiling that happens to you. None whatsoever. Wow. So I may be changing my name to Carl Dahl Diaz after a turtone recording. That's actually what Carl's real name is. Carl Dahl is actually Carl Dias, Carlos Bias.

So true. Sorry for doxing you. But yeah, he's also a state contractor for the Orgy State government. Yeah. And if you're, if your name ends in a vowel, like, it's all over, they're just, they're just stacking money in your lap. I'm not, I'm not joking about that. No. No.

100% European, uh, guy for him from Puerto Rue. Rico, smart guy, competent chops, makes four times what he made as an employee of a certain state government, moved to Florida and is living the dream. And he basically works like six hours a day, four days a week. And he just monitors things. And then he can hire guys who do all the work. And then he charged like three times what, you know, what their salary is. Their salary and benefits.

He charges the state three times that. Right. You can subcontract. Correct. Correct. So he makes sickening amounts of money. And people, people can be mad. But I'm like, you know what?

Fuck it. Get it. He's a good guy. I can't hold it against him. This has probably been the most informative episode of the, uh, the Star Chamber or really like any podcast. People need to do. This is how you steal Liptard books. This is what you need to do is you need to figure it out. And if you have professional skills from

any skill that you have, you make more money as a business owner. Again, you have to be competent at running the business. That's a whole other thing. That's a whole personality type. But maybe if your wife does accounting and bookkeeping, she can do that stuff for you while you do the work. You know, like people always talk about, you know, there's this thing where like conservators are like, you should be a plumber. And it's like to be honest, like a tradesman who does real work with his hands can do very well in their own business.

And it's one of the easier small businesses to start up and thrive in. And you don't want private equity to buy you out, right? And if your competition is private equity owned places, like they're a fucking disaster. They're just better at advertising because they have a bigger budget for that and promoting them nationally. Or they plug into you through this network nationally and then they take a skim off of it. And so what you need to do is think about how do you make the most money that you can out of what you're doing for a living currently? I mean, I know all these anarchists and discontents who work for, you know, big corp with a very mediocre level job for their whole life and, you know, just rent apartments. And, you know, they've been renting apartments for 32 years.

And, you know, do you want that to be your life? Hell no. can you what can you do to break free and then have some flexibility i mean it's it's usually hard work it takes a while but you know our good friend dr j burdon uh just took the first like real vacation he's had in years but he's independent and he's not 30 years old yet like he's still several years away from being 30 and he's frankly he's living a dream and he's able to be way more effective doing what he's doing because he took the chance and because he didn't have other good chances because the opportunities were denied to him.

So think about it that way. I mean, I've been talking to a lot of recent high school graduates about this kind of stuff lately because it's like, look, you're not going to be like your dad who worked for some company for 15 years and then, you know, there were layoffs or reorganizations and he went somewhere else and he worked there for seven years like that's not going to happen so you that's a huge opportunity because that life sucks to be honest it's nice you can have a nice life but like those are not the conditions that we're in currently and the world you're going to you don't want that to be your expectation for the world we're going into money is options money means

options, freedom and risk are coupled together and it's just the way it is. Yep. It's, I mean, you're, no one is coming to help you, but also there's tons of people willing to help you. Yes, exactly. No one's going to drop down, but if you have a network, you can find plenty of people who are happy to help you. I mean, I help people with writing all the time. I do reading. I help with like formatting. Here's how you launch it.

Here's how you publish it. Here's how you do the graphic design element. If you need my help, I can help you create the template file. Like there's a lot of people out there doing that. People helped me, you know, in the same way.

And that's what we need to do is we need to help each other achieve the level of like independence that we want and then we do business with each other and we we support each other and then we take local power together like that's that's it that's the plan that's the dream I think that that is actually a really good place to end it I think that is so I will I rarely end on a positive no especially when we're not positive yeah let's do it but the um carl and stormy you're uh when i really sys on mine your your your links will be in the show notes great and i i will get you i

will get you guys this audio as soon as okay thank you all right excellent happy fourth yeah happy independence day guys happy independence we're gonna win keep your head up enjoy your carrot dinner stormy oh you heard the carrot chopping in the background yes i will enjoy my carrot dinner thank you very much all right gentlemen later on see you guys take care