The Pete Quiñones Show - The Thought Crime Syndicate Complete (So Far) w/ Bonus - Part 1

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

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month. And, you know, we'll go from there. How are you guys doing? We're good. Very well. Thank you so much. I'm doing great. So, yeah, you know, let's start with D.E.

D.E., you were talking about how you've been following what's going on. down on the border pretty hard. A little bit, yeah. I mean, I don't live in that area, but I've been following it with interest, and I got to say, like, all credit to Greg Abb for finally doing something, but this has been

going on for years. Why have they not? You know, they stole the election in Arizona for governor. Katie Hobbs, you know, was the Secretary of State. And the election was stolen using, you know, illegal Mexican, or let me rephrase that. We are on YouTube. Allegedly, you know, people will say that the election was stolen

using this sort of thing. And Carrie Lake, God bless her, you know, has fought hard on this stuff. But I'm old enough to remember Pete, you probably remember too, when Jan Brewer back in the Obama administration, when she was governor of Arizona. tried to do something about this. Yeah. And, and, and the truth is, right, that Texas's public schools, Texas's roads, Texas's

hospitals, Arizona's roads, Arizona's hospitals, you know, and I'm the infrastructure nerd, so I'm going to talk about this for a second. Like, they're all going to fall apart because of this massive amount of illegal immigration that they're not they're working under the table, they're not paying taxes. They're not sufficiently high IQ, most of them to be a positive return on investment for the society that they live in,

which is why they ran away from wherever they were from. And, you know, geez, back even in, I mean, people talk about it, you know, now, but Proposition 187 in California in the 90s, Even California, you know, like voted to not give illegal immigrants who were non-citizens access to the public fisc. And then, of course, you know, a Saturday person federal judge overturned it. So like this has been an ongoing problem. In fact, this is kind of how I am.

One of the things that got me into, you know, our sort of politics is paying attention to the border reading VDair and other stuff like that, you know, 20 years ago. And it's just been an ongoing disaster for. for years. So why is Greg Abbott, I mean, credit to him now for actually trying to do something, I guess, maybe it's just an election year's stunt. Who knows? You know, um,

maybe somebody who wants something done about the border has pictures of him in a compromising situation. I don't know. But the fact that this is just now becoming an issue when it's been a real problem for 25 years. Oh, longer. I remember. Yeah.

I started, I started my career with INS in 1998. That's when I, went to Fletsey, Federal Law Enforcement Academy in 1998. My I OBTC, that's where I was for four months. So this has been a problem for 98 to now is what? 26 years, 26 years, 27, somewhere around there, depending on how you want to measure. Yeah, so I mean, I noticed that when I started working at the border. I was mainly doing airports at the time.

But I wasn't with immigration for six months that I'd already figured out America had stopped being a country and started being a strip mall. Everybody was coming here to shop. Everybody was coming here to get their goodies and then go home. I'm not against illegal immigration. I'm against all immigration. I've been calling for a 40-year moratorium since you want to roll my Twitter back, D, what, since 2014, 15?

When did I start, like, going hard for that? Like, now we need to 40. I was this in 2013? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like I've been calling for a 40-year moratorium. So everything you're saying is 100% right. Remember, the U.S. Border Patrol had illegal immigration to basic, okay, I'm going to use the phrase statistically zero.

Obviously, that's not literally zero, but it's statistically zero in 1952, 1953. How could we do it with 1950s technology? How could we seal the border? and now for some odd reason walls stopped working. I mean, if we want to talk about things like that, I guess that opens a rabbit hole to a few other historical subjects

that couldn't have been done with, but we'll just leave that aside. Why are we paying for a wall in Israel between Israel? Yeah. The $6 million question. Yes. Well said, Jose. On that note, Dee, real quick,

you talk about why are we paying for a wall for Israel and we don't get one? That's what just drives me mad about these evangelicals in the sense of, like, didn't you read the Bible? Like, it's, Christ commanded you to love your neighbor as yourself, not love your neighbor more than yourself. You don't buy your neighbor a new car and a wall, and you don't give yourself any of that. Like, I don't, I'm not even getting hard into scripture. I'm just like, I just read the one line. That's enough for me. Employers, rewarding your staff? Why choose between a shelf voucher or a spend anywhere card, when with Options Card, you can have both. With Options

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And he's documented it too. He has like one article that I think it's like titled suicide by legal immigration. And he just like talks about that. And he was even like writing in the Bush era. I remember about how, like, a lot of parts of California just turned into, like, a war zone because of mass migration. And he's just saying, like, why are we paying so much attention to what's going on in Iraq at the time and not paying attention to what's happening, like, actually in our country because of mass migration? Yeah, with respect to what's happening in Texas, it is kind of, like, too little too late because under Republicans watch, like, and they've, like, dominated Texas policy. politics now for the better part of 40 years, the state has demographically transformed

in an almost irreversible fashion. Like you do like at this juncture, like you need like a 40 year immigration moratorium to like you have like a sense of like for like a sensible immigration restriction measure. And I would also call attention to the fact that I remember Charles was mentioning like infrastructure that most of like Texas cities like the traffic is just so unbearable, whether you're like in Austin where I'm at or Dallas and Houston. And I would posit that a lot of that is owing to like illegals like on the roads. There's just so many of them now that it's creating like a infrastructure bottlenecks and just total strain on public resources in the state that I just don't see.

Yeah. So a couple things about infrastructure in Texas because again, I'm a nerd. and I know a lot of that stuff. The Houston metro area floods a lot, not only because it's on the Gulf and gets a lot of, it is the size of the state of Massachusetts. It is a parking lot, the size of the state of Massachusetts. Yeah.

Is Houston Metro. And I think he was with Cato, Randall-Wole Tool. Libertarian, like he calls himself the anti-planted. but he's he's absolutely hates hate urban planning of any sort and Texas has some of the fewest restrictions on property development anywhere in America

right so Houston Dallas San Antonio they can just sprawl out like crazy because Texas effectively has no rules stopping it and of course then you get you know a Walmart will be 3.8

acres say and the parking lot around the Walmart will be 15 acres right and that'll happen everywhere all around Houston you've got three and four rings of suburbs right pretty soon they're like you know Houston suburbs are going to run into like Dallas suburbs yeah right like Atlanta suburbs go into like northern Alabama eastern Tennessee and like far western south Carolina. Like there are people who commute from all those places into into Atlanta because Atlanta is so bad. And for all the same reasons, right? The reason people drive, you know, three hours a day outside of Atlanta or outside of Houston, everyone knows why. It's Steve Sailor Month for a reason. And that's why, right? So, you know, these have been problems in Texas for, as, you know, as, you know, as Jose said, you know,

years like Chronicles Magazine is you know a venerable institution it's a fantastic magazine you should be reading it if you're not but they've been talking about this VDAIR's been on you know the case for 20 years and

you know how can you have libraries you know I laugh a little bit when like oh the LA Times is bankrupt or they fired all their reporters well of course they did they imported you know what five million people in Los Angeles who were come from a countries where everyone's illiterate. So of course no one, of course Los Angeles Times is going

out of business. You just replaced all the people who read with people who don't. What do you think was going to happen? Well, weren't you the one telling me about car insurance, too, D, about the effects of illegals with the car insurance as well? No. I thought you were the one talking to me about that a while ago, or was that somebody else that brought that up? That might have been somebody else, but talk about it because like car insurance in Texas, car insurance California, anywhere. Actually, I forget who might have been the governor of Montana. We're all border states now. You've got illegal populations in every state in America.

You've got illegal Mexicans in Hawaii. Like, how does that even happen? It's a rock in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. And you have illegal farm workers in Hawaii. I've heard about the car insurance thing too from a Canadian guy that lives in Vancouver. he says because of like the massive like influx of Asiatic immigration there you can put two and two together why there's a there's massive like premiums on car insurance there but like

yeah it's brought about because of that and he said like and this is like predominantly legal migration like obviously because of like the nuances of like China's immigration system which actually is going to turn like Vancouver is going to turn into like the first like majority like Asian like metro area in the Western Hemisphere because of that. Yeah, they call Hong Cooper. Well, because it's all chain immigration. I mean, anybody know what book this is?

I can't see it on my screen. What's that? America extinguished mass immigration and the disintegration of American culture by Samuel T. Francis. And this is basically a collection of his newspaper articles starting in October 2nd, 1998. And it just runs through. It's packed. I mean, it's 200 pages of his article.

So you can imagine each, it's three pages each. And all of these are on immigration. And, yeah, he just starts talking about, oh, this one's from May 26, 2000. New Coalition is a well-paid push for more immigration. And who does he mention? Grover Norquist. I didn't remember Grover Norquist? Oh yeah, I remember Groverness.

Yeah. How about Norman? The guy you said, I want to take strength the government so as small that I can generate in a bathtub, except when I want the government to like go kill people somewhere far away, you know, like then Raytheon, right? But, but, you know, for just a second. And this is the thing that that drives me crazy is that our government will pretend there's nothing you can do, right?

Well, if there's nothing you can do, why is, why do you, you, you spend billions of dollars giving Israel money for walls. You know, MS-13 is killing people in America in, just outside of Washington, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. In Washington, in Northern Virginia, in Maryland, MS-13 is killing people. But in the land that MS-13 basically took over, right, in El Salvador, 10 years ago, MS-13 was basically sovereign.

And Naïbekele, God bless him, he is the greatest. politician in the Western Hemisphere. He might be the greatest politician alive today. He's the greatest statesman alive today. He solved the problem of MS-13 in three years. In three years. So don't tell me that you couldn't solve the problem in MS-13. Just take every dude with a face tattoo and be like,

we're going to at least take you in for questioning. If you got a gigantic 13 on your cheek and a bunch of teardrops down your right eye, I think that's probable cause. I think that's probable cause for at least ask you some questions about what you do when you're Saturday evening. Well, Governor, um, governor, um, governor psychopath out there in California prove that you can clean up a city in what two weeks. Oh, absolutely. It's just absolutely. Yeah.

It's just, it's just the will. That's all. All it is the will. I mean, they have used to have you. Go ahead. What was that, Jose? No, just to add on like the Dominican Republic, like routinely deports like, massive amounts of Haitians.

So if it's like a third rule dumpster, fire of a nation can like do that. Like the Dominican Republic has a state capacity. Like the Dominican Republic, their main export is baseball players. And they somehow can still manage to be like. Right. Again,

it's just a really good resorts too. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's simply a matter of political will. That's all like you said. You can clean up a whole city in a week. I mean,

I was saying with the riots, I remember telling somebody that a mutual, on Twitter. I was like, you give me three guys in a slow rolling squad car and a bunch of Remington shotguns loaded with birdshot and I'll clear the riots out in 10 minutes. And I won't even get anybody killed. I'll just fire a couple, a couple shells worth of bird shot into the crowd. That's it. A little bit of stinging and they'll clear. Employers, did you know, you can now reward you and your staff with up to 1,500 euro and gift cards annually, completely tax-free. And even better. You can spread it over five

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Now, loudspeaker, you are on this street illegally after this time. You need to go home or you're going to be arrested. you'd be amazed how quickly things can clean up with just the will to do it. They just arrested for this Face Act thing, this free access to the federal like abortion care access or something act. They just arrested six guys who were protesting in front of an abortion clinic. And they're all going to do like 10 years or something for peacefully protesting in front of an abortion. abortion. So abortion has been returned to the states. This isn't even a federal thing anymore, but because, you know, the case or whatever, so the state wants to persecute pro-lifers.

The state wants to persecute January 6ers. The state wants to persecute right-wing white people. So it will do it. They don't want to persecute, you know, MS-13. So they don't. It's that simple. It is that simple. The great-R. McIntyre had a great show. recently, you know, the purpose of the system is what it does. And our system takes money from productive people with families who are mostly white and gives it to nonproductive people who do not have families or who do not form families. They have children, but no families. And that's what our system does.

It gives money to single moms and, you know, illegals and, you know, Steve Sailor of Month people in the inner cities and government workers. and that's what it does. So, you know, it's very frustrating for someone like me who's been, you know, obnoxiously allowed about this sort of thing for many years that the average conservative can't just accept that like the system hates you and stop supporting it. Like if you're paying a cable bill or you're, you know, subscribing to the National Review, like stop. Like take your National Review subscription money and go to Pete Canona's, you know, like go to

Pete site and go to the donate page and put in your National Review money into, you know, Pete's channel. And I don't ask people to do things I don't do. I supported Pete. You know, he got some, some, some money for me just like two weeks ago. This is important. The only people who are going to tell you the truth, you know, the only broadcast radio station that's going to tell you the truth at all. It has Jose on on a semi-regular basis, the political cesspool. No one else, um, aside from our corner of the internet and a few places is going to not hate, you, let alone tell you the truth. This is how delusional conservatives are. Just me,

the meme I just put up. Yeah. Like, yeah, they hate you. You know, they're going to get us into World War III because they can't not genocide people that they put in a concentration camp for 50 years.

The, the whole idea now of immigration is I think it used to be replacement, but I don't, it was replacement. It still is replacement. But in the beginning, it was replacement. Now it's obviously clearly punishment.

It's demoralization. Yeah. It's, we're going to do this directly in your face and there's nothing you can do about it. Because we hate you. Yeah, because we hate you because you, because you can't, white people cannot be trusted to be a homogenous society because, you know, 1930s. Yeah. Or ends up.

Go ahead. I was going to say, I don't even know if I believe that. Like, I may believe everything you're saying except for it's because of the 1930s. I'm going to sign on with what D says. That's way older than that. That's, I think it's just projection because you have an entire tribe of people that are basically, for all intents and purposes, spiritual women, which means they project, project, project. They're going to accuse you of something that they're doing themselves.

So what it is is they inherently believe that everybody else is going to do what they're doing. I mean, what's happening in Gaza is exactly proof of that. Oh, everybody else wants to kill us off. Everybody else wants to murder us. Like, well, that's weird. How come when you got the guns, you're just killing everybody you can get your hands on? I mean, I mean, you've killed 10,000 kids in three months. Right.

I mean, so I agree with your point up till when you assign the date, Pete, I would say that it goes way beyond that. I would say it's just, I would say it's just they assume everybody when they get collectivized are going to be as bloodthirsty and as petty and as vengeful as they themselves. And then that's it. So they figure if everybody else is going to knife them, they better knife first. And that's why every nation they run falls apart in what, 80 years or less? Yeah, I'm sorry.

You don't know what I mean. The model of their Massad is rise and kill first. Like the motto of their intelligence agency is, and it comes straight from the scriptures, like if someone is coming to kill you, rise and kill them first. That is the motto of Mossad. Yep. Right. And I actually a really good book too.

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and whenever they went back to original source materials, it always turned out it was them starting violence. And then as soon as somebody fought back, oh, we're being programmed. Oh, we're being attacked. Right. And we formed a communist gang. that killed a couple shopkeepers or a landlord or somebody.

And then when like his family was like, what the hell are you doing? You know, and, and like fought back or called the police and they tried to arrest the guys who'd form the communist gang killing people or extorting people. And then all of a sudden, no good.

Yeah, I see like the, this latest like Bruhaw and Gaza and really, um, in general, with the rise of like the populist right versus this rootless cosmopolitan class as just like the latest chapter of a thousand plus year struggle of Aryans versus sorcerers. So I think there's like nothing new under the sun here.

It's a very protracted like struggle. You sound like you've been listening to Stryker. Yeah. Yeah, to credit, yep. well well but again and I I know these guys I've talked to Dr. Johnson I've talked to um striker before like uh you know like the only people who are going to tell you the truth on anything are on what you know Zeman calls this side of the great divide and to me you know the only people and it's it's not just you know the border in Texas or the

stuff in the Middle East or anything, you know, and some people I would consider, you know, maybe it's just a soft spot in my heart, but like Tom Woods, I would consider an honest man who's on my side of things, even though we disagree about economics. That, you know, I still find Lou Rockwell, for instance, to be an honest man

and a valuable writer. But this is, you know, life is serious business. and when you do things like throw open the borders of a country and make the hospitals unusable and make the roads unusable and make the public fist a complete disaster for like five generations into the future and you know start you know

pick fights with the entire world and possibly just you know like screw with major shipping routes and you know like the United States you know the oh the Iranians are attack attacking us. Why are we on illegal basis in Syria? You're like, we're illegally occupying the Eastern third of Syria with all the oil. Why? You know, like, like, if, if I have, if I have an armed gang show up in your house and squat in your house for years at a time and you finally get

enough, you know, enough resources together to kick me out, all of the sudden like, oh gosh, you attacked me? What? What? Like, like, Iraq has asked us. us to leave multiple times, you know, the supposedly sovereign state of Iraq. Like they've been like, you know, actually the, the, um, the money on, you know, isn't, isn't worth the like violence and, you know, the sexual assaults that our people endure, you know, like in Okinawa, right? Like, there's sexual assaults that happen all the time from meetings on base. And we all know they're almost all, you know, Steve Taylor Month people doing that. And, you know, the three people who were killed in America, you know, the

supposed American base, right? Like, why are Americans illegally occupied? I'm sure you guys, here, there's an old meme. Like, why did Iran put itself so close to all of our military base? Yeah. Why? Why?

This entire time, actually. Right? So, like, why do we have, right? Why do we have, why are there Americans on bases in Jordan, in Syria, in Iraq, wait in all of these countries when, you know, like,

our, are the main job of the U.S. Army should be defending the United States of America. And exactly. We just started talking about how the state of Texas is going to be destroyed. And, and this is very much on purpose, right? Oh, I see it. Arizona has been destroyed. You know, the state that elected Barry Goldwater has been irrevocably changed by mass immigration. it will never elect a man like Barry Goldwater ever again.

The California elected Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan will never come back again because of mass immigration. The Texas that gave us Ron Paul will be destroyed by mass immigration. So the reason this is frustrating isn't that the left is playing jungle ball. They've always played jungle ball. They've always played by no rules. They've always done things like kill nuns and burn down churches and all this stuff. You know, their playbook really hasn't changed for 250 years.

Saddle true. You know, they've always done this. The problem is, the supposed right wingers don't say, yeah, that's the play. So, you know, you're not playing Marquis de Queensby rules. you're playing, you know, like Shiv a guy in the back rules. So act accordingly.

And the second you do that, you know, someone on Twitter says, Pete, you're a fascist because you think that you shouldn't let people who want to forcibly transition eight-year-olds shouldn't be listened to and should be, you know, opposed with all means available. Oh, oh, you want to know, you, you don't want to know what's cool. They're sexually mutilating eight-year-olds.

I don't know what to tell you, except that you have to stop this. person however you can. I mean, I've been called the fascist for how long now. And think about this, Javier Malay gets his package pushed through to cut a whole bunch of government and then privatize it, not telling you who he's going to sell it to. I have my assumptions. Wasn't he in Brooklyn the day the the tunnel's thing came out? Yes. No, he wasn't in Brooklyn. He was there like a couple weeks before that happened. But he visited that Khabab. But yesterday, protest started.

And he, you know, in very rough body in form, unleashed the cops. And it didn't escape me that what I've always said, if you're going to have anything that's close to libertarian is minarcho-capitalism, you're going to have to be authoritarian. So he unleashes the cops to put down this,

to put down this protest. There's going to be more protests. So the cops are going to have to constantly be doing this, just like in Pinochet's Chile, for people who actually know the real history of Pinochet's Chile, there were constant uprisings, there were constant things that he adds to quell, unless he goes full Buckelly and just says, I'm going to arrest these people, I'm going to throw him into prison, I'm going to let them rot, and I'll give a fuck. He's going to have to do this over and over again. But still, just by a narco-capitalist standards, him unleashing the cops upon these

people who are just protesting peacefully in the streets, he already proves that all of that is bullshit. That the only way that you can rule and you can get your shit done is by crushing your opponents. May I remind people that Murray Rothbert died after endorsing David Duke? Just get the same. I mean, like,

this is, you know, Marie, unreased the police, I'm not against a lot of, you know, people tend to, you know, go after libertarians for a lot of dumb stuff. The libertarian problem with central banking and causing inflation, we have the best that last, the inflation of the last three years is, proves the libertarian case against central banking 100%. Like, they caused inflation through the roof by the lockdowns cutting production,

and pretty much of money like it was the recipe for inflation and libertarians should be proud of like yeah we told you this was going to cause a bunch of inflation and look what happened but instead of saying we told you what was going to cause a bunch of inflation look at all the suffering that people are having

because they can't afford food they're going well I mean but what about freedom though to like you know trans eight year olds but freedom though it's like you are deliberately taking the biggest W have had since the Ron Paul revolution, right?

Of foreign wars being a total mess, of non-interventionism, of, you know, domestic interference causing problems in the economy, you're taking those Ws that prove, if such, if, you know, if there is such a case to be made for libertarianism of the, you know, the paleo-conservative, like small C conservative, you know, type of, that Ron Paul were. represented, which in many ways I still respect and still am. The Hans-Terman Hoppian tradition of, you know, boring

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sustainable electricity supply for your community. Find out more at airgrid.i. 4.6 Northwest. You took the biggest W you possibly could have in the last couple years, and you turned it around and said, but weed and like weird sex stuff, though? Yeah.

I mean, am I wrong? They snatched defunded. from the jaws of victory so well they may as well be Republicans that that's my take on the matter yeah yeah it's pathological with that

with that crowd um yeah they'll just focus on like like the most like degenerate issues like you mentioned with like like transgender stuff or like even um like just talk about like legalizing pot and all this stuff

as opposed to like, going with a rather relevant political issue that's very, like, structural in nature. Like, if you solve this issue, you can solve a lot of other economic issues. But instead, they just pick, like, the stupidest political issues to die on a hill for it. And it's just, it's one of, like, the many reasons why when I did a lot of political work, I tended to avoid working with, libertarian people just because of like their mongoloid tier like political IQ when it comes to the fights they choose it's just like pretty bad i never to realize that that's a good point that they're interesting they focus on these niches almost to the yeah it's session and it's just you just they come across looking comical at that point just ludicrous like why are you worrying about

this it's kind of like the guy that's you know furiously scrubbing the spot out of, you know, one side of the couch and the other half is just drenched in filth. It's like, what are you doing? Like, do you not see the rest of the couch? So, well, I mean, like, I'm not a big fan of the Democrats and things might change. But like up until pretty recently, the only, you know, national political convention that had like a dude in his underwear dancing around was a libertarian one, right? Like, you know, the trans thing might, might change that.

um you know uh right you know the republicans will be like our are uh you know our trans bruce jenner is uh is you know so much better right yeah we are like republican transsexuals are so much prettier than the democrat ones like like you'll give their ideas well that's what they're that's what they're basically saying what is it uh um jesse kelly right that you know the guy you know like uh you know i'm not not going to lie the dude and, you know, the guy at the White House, you know, with the bolt-ons, they look pretty good. I'm like, oh, God. This was, this was several months ago.

But, like, if you can't, and this is why this show is so valuable. And I want to say thank you to Pete for all the stuff he does, you know, dredging up old readings and, and, you know, interviewing Thomas and getting people, you know, I think you single-handed. I have to thank Jose. Jose is the one who told me about Thomas. I had no idea who told us why I actually you forgot about that yeah yeah well thank you both but but like you know Pete you're probably I was thinking about this this morning in preparation for the show like you know I've been around for a while and I was a reader of you know kind of mold bug and sailor and VDair and all that other stuff there were back in the day Steve's sailor's blog role was like you know

the place to be like if you wanted to find something out you could just go Steve's blog and like click on the right hand sidebar and you'd find something. More people today know about, you know, the Institute of Historical Review. Thanks to Pete than probably ever have in history, you know. And it's stuff like that where, you know, people got to, people ask themselves a question. Like, you know, we can make all the jokes about, you know,

Greg Abbott standing up for America or whatever we want. but the fact that he's being forced, Charlie Kirk is effectively being forced by events and by pressure from normal people to concede everything I was saying in 2012 when I was still out on Twitter. You know? Yeah. And it is, it is people like people. Pete pushing that, telling the truth, you know, and and bringing new stuff to people's attention.

You know, Pete just brought up a book at this stream about, about, you know, San Francis and stuff from 25, 30 years ago. Um, and it is that, you know, truth, the events, the events around us are vindicating our side of the great divide all the time. And I think that's pretty exciting because, you know, normal people are finally waking up to where, you know, Pete was in 1997, which if everyone had the same politics as Pete, we know and is in 1997, thinks to be a lot better than they are now. But, you know, and that doesn't make your fascist necessarily, you know, not that there's anything wrong with being a fascist. Well, wait a minute. I didn't discover his Institute for a Star-Hore review until 1998. Oh, I'm sorry. Man, we keep going back to 1998.

A lot happening then, huh? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I started. And, you know, this is something that I've talked about with other people. I talked about it with Scott from history, homoes, is, you know, I was very, very radical in my individual thought. And then I discovered libertarianism, and that really, like, de-radicalized me for a while. So, oh, I have to judge everybody as an individual. But, you know, if you really go back and you listen to some of my podcasts, I mean, there was a reason why, you know, I'd have Scott Horton on and we rag on Zionists. And I would talk about the Zionists. And they're awful. Like, let's not like let's not kid ourselves. You know, I said this no longer online. But I first learned about Jabotinsky and, you know, the militant Zionists from a friend of mine who's, you know, on our side of the wall.

And they basically took all their program from, you know, Europe in 1935 and applied it to themselves and then said, no one else can have this, you know, in our Antarctic ethno state with a wall and like socialized medicine for families and, right? Like, you know, if you if you love the Second Amendment, you know, that little country in the Middle East is great. Everyone has weapons all the time. Why? Because there's rare by people who hate them. You know, it's only in America where, you know, you look up gun control and like, who's behind it? And you're like, man, is this a minion? What's going on here?

Why are the, well, it's in America. I mean, at least in Israel, they're on the other side of a fence. Here, we have people who hate us that live right down the street. Yeah. Well, and, and the reason you can't put a fence between you and those people is Shelly v. Creamery, 1948. Just going to see that. Just going to see that.

that damage. And guess he was behind that, right? Like the entire, you know, the entire Shelley legal team was Saturday people. So, and I've been on, Paul Kersey's got a couple books out, but from Aelo Hill publishing talking about this sort of stuff, but I've talked about it extensively. This is, this is, you know, the only people who are going to tell you truth. Like, there are other people who will say the truth. But if you want to go through the archives of the Pete Kwinornet show and just find the people that Pete's talk to, that's a really, if you're, this is your first show, go through the Pete's archives, listen to the people who, you know, Pete has on and find and branch out from there, you'll find pretty much everyone who's

going to tell you the truth on something. And I'll, many years ago, He and I were on Twitter at the same time. A former Pete can earn his guest, and he's a friend of mine. Travis Corcoran, who's now in the New Hampshire State Legislature. He and I were talking, and this was 15 years ago. But the only conversations that were at all interesting were, you know, between, like, at the time, like the Pat Buchanan types, the paler conservatives and the libertarians. right so only the only interesting conversations that are going to happen today are between people that are on this side of defense no one else is going to have anything useful or interesting to say at all ever yeah well i mean and let's bring up the uh the old trope here the the quote unquote libertarian's alt-right pipeline

Remember when that was a thing? Remember when that was so poo-pooh and it was all over Twitter and everything? I mean, we might not call it the alt-right anymore because, you know, the alt-right became corporatized pretty quickly. It's like I was talking about with Millet. If he's going to institute anything that looks like libertarianism in Argentina, This Black Friday, game stream and go full speed with one gig Sky broadband and watch unmissable shows like all her fault on Sky. These nice people killing you, John.

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And, you know, I don't trust him because of his associations. And I think that, you know, when I asked a question, if he's privatizing the government, who's buying it, I think I know that because I read Stryker's recent article on exactly who his, who his backers were. But let's leave all that aside. If you are going to have order, if you are going to have what you want,

what you want your culture to look like, what you want your society to look like, you're going to have to unleash the cops. You're going to have to do the things that Murray Rothbard where there was Facebook groups that are like, we don't talk about 90s Rothbard. No, 90s, Rothbard's whole progression from beginning to end, he ended exactly where society, where

the kind of idea of structuring a society and having a culture where it should be. And to argue against that is basically to argue, is basically to just, you're always going to lose, but I'm always going to be right. You know, it's what San Francis called the beautiful loser, you know, where it's like, Oh, I'm morally correct, but, you know, I'm never going to see what I want out of society. Well, and this is, this is, um, the, the, and I've talked with, Stryker about this and others, the, the two things that the right has won on in my lifetime. And again, I'm in my 40s, are homeschooling and guns and a little bit on abortion, but I'll get to

that in a second. The two issues where they act like left. where they say no. Constitutional carry for everyone all the time, all 50 states, until I get exactly what I want, I'm going to keep pushing. I don't want an NFA. I don't want the FFA. I want everything. Right? You talk to the GOA guys.

You talk to the hard, harder core NRA guys. The whole point of the NRA is to moderate the guys who are like, no, the whole thing is the old. The outfit Jose used to run with. natural association for gun rights. Right. The reason they win on that is they made the moral case for, you know, going whole hog, like repealing the NFA, repealing Federal Firearms Act, you know, legalizing suppressors,

you know, like maximizing two, eight, you know, getting rid of, you know, permits for concealed carry, letting everyone have constitutional carry. all of that insisting on everyone's right to keeping bare arms and you know concealed carry in every all 50 states not requiring a sheriff whatever they act like leftist they say they get half a loaf and they go okay when's when's the next you know when's my other three quarters of the love what's what's next what can I get next and the other thing was that homeschooling they said I don't care if you throw me in jail I'm not sending my kids to public school and they put to a homeschool legal defense association and they pushed in all 50 states to get laws.

They pushed to get, you know, if you throw a mom in jail, there, there'd be, you know, for homeschooling, there'd be rallies on the steps. There'd be, you know, immense political pressure, you know, legislators to get called. I'm not old enough to, you know, I wasn't, wasn't homeschooled, but I know people because of being a traditionalist Catholic, like, I know some of those like weird homeschooling moms from like 1987 who like, you know, had the, you know, the 15 passenger van with nine kids in it. Right. I know those people.

And they would go to them, Matt. There'd be 30 moms calling, you know, like the entire, you know, statewide. There'd be instantly a network activated. And they would absolutely push. And if like they would, they would make direct. Like, if you don't help us with this, we will primary you. Well, you're only going to help us. you're only going to get the life you want if you're willing to die for it.

That's really what it is at the end of the day. You're only going to get the life you want if you're willing to die for it. Because that's the common thread that you're weaving through all of this. These people have a goal. They have a way of life that they will not compromise on. I will not send my kids there. I will not give up my firearms, my right to defend myself. I will not, et cetera, et cetera.

If they are willing to die for it, then they get the, life they want. That's the paradox that it is. You follow me? Yeah, right. And I would I would posit that the only reason we don't live, well, there's a few, but I would say the main, I guess I should say the main reason. We don't live in a medical tyranny post-COVID is because there was a significant swath of our population and, and I, that became a bone in the throat of the authoritarian system that they wanted to implement that just simply said, no, we're not going to do this. And a lot of them were, as you'd like to say, celebrants of Steve Sailor Month. They're just like, no, we're not going to wear a mask.

We're not going to put a needle in her arm because, no, we don't trust you. You know, we've done this to us before and we're not going to take it again. And it's like, okay, I mean, there's plenty of footage of them fighting in restaurants, them fight. You're saying, I don't have to show you a card. I don't have to show you nothing. And where did it all go? It all disappeared almost overnight.

All of New York said you needed to bring a vaccine card. you need that. And there was what? Two instances. One was in front of an Italian restaurant where they're like, you can go jump in a lake. I ain't showing you a car. I ain't showing you nothing.

And wow, where did all of those implementations go? They're all gone. Like that. Instant what? Do you think that was because people like peacefully protested or they wrote on Twitter? No.

It's because people were throwing punches in restaurants saying, I'm not showing you nothing. I don't have to show you anything. That's where medical tyranny went. Yeah. And that's that's one thing, like those of us who, I think all four of us on this call, we're pretty adamant. Like, not only no, but like, I'm, I'm never going to forgive you for this. I'm never going to forget. I'm never going to, like, I will hold a grudge to the day I die. There are still things that, like, I remember, like, somebody will bring it up, like something that happened back then.

and I'll remember that they did that. And I'll be so mad that my eyes start tearing. Because it's, I mean, back then it was, I mean, I was podcasting. I was trying to do as much as I could. I was trying to. But, you know, I was also really, really fucking defiant about what was going on in my personal life. I was working a job and they're like, we're going to fire you if you don't wear a mask.

and I'm like, well, fire me. Go ahead. I'm your biggest producer. Fire me. Go ahead. And it's like, well, can you just like pretend? And it's like, leave me the fuck alone.

And actually, if I can talk about it for just a second, I mean, people like yourself, Tom Woods, Carl Deninger over at Market Ticker, you guys save thousands of lives. And I got to say, you know, God bless you for that.

Because without, the sources of information that you guys provided, particularly, you know, Tom and Carl were absolutely invaluable. Tom was on that thing like white on rice, you know, charts and everything, you know, provided the ammunition and, you know, the ability to push back on that. And I just, I got to say thank you because, you know, without support from guys like you, Pete, you know,

I might have taken the damn thing, you know, but because, you know, I think, you know, I got to know you around the time that things kicked off. and I started, you know, from Tom and a few other places, I was able to find alternative sources of information and, and just say no. And that saved people's lives. Well, remember, Dee, when that first started, I was one of the ones that was against two in our personal circles. How many times in our purse telegram channels was I getting into it and scrapping with our own friends, our own IRL friends. And I'm like, nah, this is all nonsense. You can't be doing this. These people are lying to you.

I remember that clearly. And I, won't forget that either. I will not forget that. No, no. I remember me and Jose getting together at like the misuses to and be like, you want to go out to a restaurant? Like in 2020 and it'll be like, are they going to try and, uh, fuck them. We're not going to, we're not going to follow anything.

Awesome. Whatever they say. Yeah. And that's, it's, it's precisely, and I got to give I mean, Charles, we're great. He and I've been friends for many, many years and we, you know, we'll just randomly call each other up. We're buddies. I had to call him and apologize. I think in 2021 or I'm like, no, like, because I was like, it might be a Chinese bio weapon and the Chinese are so sloppy that this might actually be a real thing. I actually called him to apologize and like, you know, after a year and it was like, no, man, you've right.

This is this is all complete nonsense. The entire thing is, you know, faker than, you know, Pamela Anderson's chest and more, more. homosexual than Liberacee. You know, like, this is, this is, right, and again, right, the people who won, you know, the four of us aren't axed.

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Bill Crystal debate in 2021 in New York because you had to have a vax because you had to have a vax card and I'm like yeah you had to have a vax card and coincidentally I had a printer like I was just going to say I had four I could have mailed you one Pete They were looking for Vax cards to go into bars in New York after that. We went to a bar after the debate and everything. There were people in the bars. It's something I was talking about recently. I was talking about how they didn't even have to, like,

I was living right outside of Atlanta at the time, and the police just disappeared. The police didn't have to enforce any of this because people were enforcing it. private businesses, quote unquote, it's a private business bro, was, we're enforcing it. I mean, it was fucking madness. I remember getting into an argument with my girlfriend at the time. And she's like, oh, well, because the library had demanded you, you wear a mask. And she said, well, they're a private business.

They can do what they want. I was like, the public library is a private business? Do you libertarian? No. Oh, on what planet is that? Is that a thing? And I wish I went out to eat with you and Jose Pete, because I was the same way, the nearby city where I go to eat.

I literally went online. This shows you the type of guys that we are. I literally went online and downloaded the PDF of the mask mandate. And I read through the whole thing. And I would just walk into restaurants. You have to wear a mask. And I'd be like, no, according to section. subsection I section three.

If you're hard of hearing, you don't need to wear a mask and I'm deaf in my right ear. I absolutely did that every time. And the one time somebody really pushed back on me, because usually I would just get like the look of a dog that had just been shown a card trick. The one time I got pushed back, they're like, oh, we're just trying to follow the rule. I just, I actually yelled at him in the bank. I was like, you're not trying to follow the rule. I just told you the rule and you're going against it. Get your manager.

It was a blast. Well, and I've talked plenty, but I just think this is important. I will make this one point. The people who took the opportunity to screw with normal people's lives, this was the biggest wealth transfer in the history of the human race. It was a destruction of the middle class. And the people that make this country run, you know, I'm not a big fan of Thomas Jefferson, but it's it's the guys with a small restaurant where, you know, the land is worth, you know, a million dollars. And he's got, you know, total assets maybe of like $1.5 million. And that might seem like a lot, but he's, he's not wealthy, but he's, he's okay. But, you know, a hundred of those guys can put together, they can hire a lawyer. They can, they can get a lobby firm, whatever. It's those guys, those people that own. or, you know, own a McDonald's franchise or own a small business that make or made this country work.

And those people were targeted by the goal that are going for destruction. And I'm never going to forgive or forget that these petty totalitarians and frankly, morons decided that they were going to destroy all that. favor of Walmas on because someone kind of caught. Yep. I will not forget. I think it was March 28th on my Twitter. I got into it with somebody, March 28th of 2020 when it was just when it was just starting. And I had said, this is the solidification of corporatocracy.

That's what you're seeing. That's why Walmart can stay open. That's why Lowe's can stay open. That's why all these big companies can stay open and mom and pop can't. It's the solidification of corporatocracy. and this is how they're doing it. They're crushing all the little guys, and what they're going to do is they're going to crush all the little guys

because the little guys can't survive with their business being closed anywhere near as long as a big guy can. And then once all the little guys close, the big guys are just going to buy up all their property, take up all their former customers, and increase their profits. So not only are they getting rich off of selling you poison, they're getting rich off of putting you out of business

and then taking your customers. I think if you scroll back to my Twitter in March of 2020, you'll find that. I just went into my, opened up my Skype account and went back to March 19, 2020. And I remember I was talking to a guy, I'm not going to name him, he was in Switzerland. And he was, he worked with law enforcement in Switzerland. And the crazy thing is Ryan McMacon at, me since we had been doing these episodes. talking about decentralization and using Switzerland as a model. And I get on this private call with this guy in Switzerland on March 19th.

Now, it was only three days before that the mandates started coming down. Some states started mandating counties were mandating, you know, shelter in place, stay at home, all this crap. And this guy tells me that in what I think is the freest country in the world, that like they have orders to arrest people if they leave their homes for like a week. You know, they food, if they don't have food, fuck them. There, no one is allowed the only people that are allowed to walk, uh, walk the streets or, um, are law enforcement. That's when I knew this wasn't just America.

This wasn't that this was something global and that there's no there. And I had said it was something global, uh, starting in February. But this is what, this is what, this is what solidified it for me. And I just said, okay, well, they're just, this is the new thing. This is, this is worse than 9-11. It's going to change things for 9-11. I mean, think about it.

After 9-11 was, were there people killing themselves? Were there people who committing suicide because they couldn't see their friends? Were there people who couldn't be with their loved ones because they were dying? Yeah. And then when you, when you bring up the fact that, you know, One of these days when we, when our guys are in charge, people are going to have to answer for this. People are, oh, you're just going too far. You have to, it has to be like reconciliation in South Africa.

No, a couple of points. Not to cut you off, forgive me, not to cut you off, but just to riff off of what she said, like not only were there not the deaths of despair that you, you, you discussed there so poignantly. After 9-11, it was the opposite. it. If you go back and you look, you'll find that their marriages had noticeably increased, and there was actually a lot more camaraderie and a lot more of an intertwining of people at that point, a lot more community at that point. Because, again, people had endured something, and they were not despairing. If anything, they were positive that they had endured it, and that they had come together, and that they had, at least in their minds, overcome.

So I would say not only were there not, not only was there that absence of deaths of despair. I think if you go back and you look at the records, it's completely the opposite. And when you talk about there has to be a reckoning for these kinds of things. I think the most recent developments in Spain, Dee and I talked about this not long ago, about what they're doing to Franco in his memory. It's like if that doesn't tell you, you need to crush these people. And I mean mercilessly. say that as a Christian and I'm in a, I'm a pretty terrible Catholic, but I definitely define myself

as a Christian. We're all pretty bad Catholics. But the point I'm saying is I still, I still do believe in loving my enemy even if I have to destroy him. That's like I can't allow evil to exist, but it doesn't mean I have to hate you. I hate the evil. But anyway, the point I'm getting at is simply, if Franco doesn't teach us that you have to just be ruthless and merciless when the time. comes, I don't know what to say. Now, I don't think a man should take pleasure in it. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think he should. And as somebody that was in law enforcement for many years and may again find himself in it, I don't think one should take pleasure in that. I think that that's not morally correct. But I do think it has to happen. Just like a hanging, you know, just like an execution

of a criminal. Like it has to be done. We have to put this mad dog down. To not put him down would be an injustice, but you shouldn't take pleasure in it. Regardless, there were not the deaths of despair after 9-11, and Franco teaches us you have to crush these people mercilessly, or they will come back before you know it. Well, I think a lot of people, you know, just bring up Franco, you know, people in Spain understand that. That's why we have the Vox Party now. But, you know, just recently in November of last year, you know, a couple months ago, one of the, one of the leaders of the box party, Alejo Quadras. Someone walked up to him and shot him in the face in the streets of Madrid. They understand. They're beginning to, well, they're not beginning to, but if you've been

on Twitter this week and you've been following this one Will Stancel account, it's real, what they're doing and some of the things that Mark Cuban did this week, what's this real name, Mark Khamiski? One of the things that you're seeing is they're starting to understand that the pendulum is swinging to the other side and they're freaking the fuck out. That's why you would walk up to somebody and shoot them in the face and the street. You know, an old man. I mean, Allah is an old man. They're scared because they know that they put. I think that many of them know that they push too far.

and they're in they're very much in fear because they know what's happened in the past when this when they've pushed this way i i think to kind of just join with your what you're saying with what jose had said earlier i think they know that the the wheel is turning the cycle is turning once again as jose you said earlier about the whole this is a this is a battle that's been raging for a very long time and i think that's what they're feeling now is they had their time up on that medieval concept of the wheel of fortune. And okay, now they've they've, they've crested the top of that turn and they've enjoyed it,

but now they have to see the reality that here comes to decline. And that medieval wheel of fortune is just turning again to kind of dovetail both your and Jose statements together. And I think they aren't scared. I agree with you. I think they're very frightened because I think they know exactly what happens next. And our job is when the pendulum swings is to keep it there. Like,

with the whole, yeah, I think this, um, new, like new phase of instability, which I'll just like, colloquially label,

like, as like the trials, if you will, um, is like ultimately, like a system breakdown, um, of the,

so-called, like, unipolar order, both like a, like, domestic and international level. Where, um,

There's going to see a complete abandonment of norms altogether. And people have to be ready for a lot of like wild stuff to pop off. And I'm, um, when we were talking about political violence, I remember that one incident, um, I think it was like in 2020, where like that Trump supporter got gunned down in Oregon like execution style. Um, that should have also been a wake up call to people on the right that like, this kind of stuff is going to become normal. soon because when you look at

say like a lot of younger millennials zoomers and people who have been growing up like exclusively on the internet and that live incredibly deracinated in like antisocial lifestyle these people will have very little regard for respecting basic norms and then you have also just these like psycho

winette types and um millennial women that are going to come into age, that a single millennial women that are going to come into age. And when they start taking political power, like all bets are off. It's going to make Aristophanese assembly women look like a walk in the park. And I really do think that people have to be like really embrace themselves both like physically,

mentally and mentally for what's to come. because this is not going to be a political debate ultimately. It's going to be a total, it's going to be a slug fest. And I can't like stress it enough that most of the like, like the schoolhouse rock politics that people have been accustomed to. It's just going to go out the window. And you're going to see just pure like Fred enemy distinction. And dare I say, it's going to be very primacy.

memorial to at times. So people are going to have to make some very tough decisions in the years to come. Jose, just to say, just to latch on what you're saying very briefly, I put out on Twitter not long ago. I don't post much anymore. It's just too busy. But to kind of address what you're saying encapsulate it, I did that. I know it's tired now, but it was the first and last time I'd used it. I did the freedom of speech meme, the Rockwell painting. And over I put it, my state on it was there is no political solution. The longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And that's, that was my take on the situation akin to yours.

I think Jose made a very good point there. And I know that Charles, you know, I've talked about this. Childless millennial women are going to absolutely lose their minds. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee a visit filled with festivity. Experience the story of Ireland's most iconic beer in a stunning Christmas setting at the Guinness Storehouse. Enjoy seven floors of interactive exhibitions

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Find out more at airgrid.i.4.net. They're already pretty crazy. but like they're they are going to lose their minds in the next five to ten years when they realize that like every dude who's worth having is either already taken or he's shopping for a 23 year old like like right like like you know like sorry sweetheart empty egg carton BPD can't cook I'm going to shop in the in the you know not crazy aisle sorry um and again this is you know conservatives conventional republicans i guess um they are conservative like like the 19th amendment was a disaster um it's still a disaster no one who's saying thinks it's a good idea like the the the like restoration of sanity to our politics um

and i'm you know murray rothbert was not in favor and culture's not in favor like anybody who actually thinks about this stuff is like no no this is a bad idea they are not going to be, you know, the four of us probably just, we could easily find an issue that we're all four of us disagree about something. And we could have a conversation where, you know, the four of us managed to come to a compromise that everyone on us could live with. Right. You know, I think the tax rate should be 17%. Posey thinks it should be 19%. Charles thinks should be 25.

Pete thinks it should be 23. Whatever. We can come to some sort of Moses Vivendi. There is no living with a crazy lady who thinks she's still hot when she's 39. And that any day now, her prince is going to come. And she's going to have kids and an awesome career and still be like, you know, hot. And, you know, get a million dollars. And like, you just, it's not going to happen.

and if she doesn't get those things, she thinks that SWAT should like, if you tell her, sweetheart, that is not going to happen. She thinks the police should show up at your house and arrest you because you're using violence against her. And that's not even an exaggeration.

Like, if you tell these women, like, sweetie, I realize you're alone on Valentine's Day and you feel really bad, but you're 38. The time to actually find a dude was 15 years ago or 20.

And I'm sorry, you know, we built the state on catering to, you know, Sailor Month people and invaders and, you know, alone on Valentine's Day women. And, you know, Murray Rothbard, when he died, said, like, no, you have to, Hans Herman Hopper, right? Like, like, if you do not have a state or a society that is geared around, male-headed households that work in the private economy, your society will fail. The centerpiece of any society is the patriarchal family, and you have to put that at the center. Or everything is going to fall apart. Because the only net-tax payers are men with families.

Like, women don't pay taxes. Sorry. A alternative hypothesis is no longer existing, but it's available. you can find it. You know, sorry, this, uh, February month people are like a negative $750,000 over their lifetime tax recipients, like just a huge sunk cost. Um, you know, the recent invaders are, you know, oh, they're not as bad. They're only minus, you know, 300,000.

They're only, they're more, they're about half a million. They're about half a million. Yeah, or whatever it is. Yeah, they're half a million. Not much lower, not much better than the others, if, ironically enough enough. But go ahead. Yeah, but there's twice as many of them and their, you know, seven million of them just showed up last,

let go. Continue, please. So like you're not, this isn't going to succeed. And whether you want it to or not, you know, like Jose said, this whole paradigm is crashing and burning. Right. If you don't have, um, I talk about this a little bit.

I know a lot about, um, airlines and airlines have been in the, news lately. As briefly as possible. Oh, there you go. That's it, right? Airplanes almost fell out of the sky because diversity, equity, inclusion. Okay? In order for commercial airline travel to be a thing, everyone,

everyone involved has to be an autistic nerd. I'm not even joking. No doubt, yes. The runway has to be exactly level. There can't be anything on the runway. There can't be any foreign object debris on the runway. The runway has to be super thick concrete that's super level. The substrate on the concrete has to be exactly right.

Because you have, you know, multi-tonn objects moving at 150 miles an hour as they land, right? The tires have to be exactly right. The wing has to be exactly right. that I was on a plane a couple years ago where the door got a little jacked up. We had to get on a new plane because if the door is a little jacked up, if it's just a quarter inch, not, you know, too proud of the rest of the plane, the door gets ripped off as you move at 700 miles an hour, right? Like everything about it from the construction of the plane,

the construction of the facilities, the people running the, you know, the FAA, the air traffic control, the radar networks, the radio communications networks, the entire thing, all of it, in order for people to move at hundreds of miles an hour through the sky in the jet turbine engines. Do you know how, I've never been a machinist, but I know a little bit about how, do you know how fine the machinists have to get in order to make a jet turbine function

without like blowing up in a gigantic fireball that causes shrapnel to spread across like a quarter mile radius? I mean, we're talking thousands of an inch, thousands. The tolerances are super tiny. So, like, how, I mean, show me a place that isn't filled, you know, that's filled with February people and, you know, invaded people and women where they've had people that can do this. You can't find one. I mean, you just can't. And people are going to die because somebody said, oh, yeah, that's good enough.

Manana, right? Like, manana, that's the, right? Because the manana people are like, this both is tight enough. Yeah, you're going to get like tons of diversity bridge scenarios, unfortunately, unfortunately because of the competency crisis that's going to be pervasive. across like the U.S. It's actually like pretty scary. And all these like infrastructure collapses where you see like in like

the blackouts in California or even like the whole like energy issues in Texas. I think that's just going to magnify as like society idioticizes if you will over time. Yeah, I sincerely tell. I sincerely and humbly suggest to all of. of Pete's listeners that they start taking the stairs instead of the elevators. Well, and I think that's going to become a, I think, I say it with a bit of a nod and a wink, but I'm not entirely kidding. I think you may want to, for numerous reasons, avoid the elevators and start taking the stairs. Yeah, and I told my wife yesterday, I said, you know, I'm someone who

likes to fly because you get there really quick. And, you know, I'm like, we should just buy an RV. and not that we're going to become like RV people because I think RV people are some of them are like is cringe as like frigging Steve Sailor people but um just so that when we go we we don't have to worry about staying over in a hotel I'd rather drive for two days than fly for three hours at this point I do not want to walk on a plane look into the cockpit see what I expect to see and be like oh no no no I'm out My last flight, Pete, to kind of riff off you and as I'm kind of getting into your camp was I was coming back from Japan in 2019. And what ended up happening was, again, just the laxation of rules everywhere. They had this fellow.

I was getting on to the plane and they had this fellow. I believe he was a Chinese national, but I couldn't take it because I was flying out of, excuse me, I was technically flying out of Hong Kong. But I had been to Japan and I visited Hong Kong and I flew out of Hong Kong. But as I'm leaving Hong Kong, there's his Chinese national, and he's obviously like feverish. Like obviously he's very ill. He's in a wheelchair. And I'm thinking to myself, you can't let this guy on the plane. He's going to have a medical emergency.

And he's probably going to die. But not only that, you're just going to cause a complete upheaval of everything going on. And no, what do they do? Like, no, we don't want to say no. We don't want to be mean. Let him on the plane. Let it profits over everything. Put him on.

And it's like, okay, by helping this guy, by doing something quote unquote nice for this guy, you're screwing all the other passengers. Well, what of course ends up happening is this guy has a medical emergency while we're in flight. So we have to circle back and then land again. And I am on the plane, no exaggeration, 21 hours. I am not allowed to leave the plane. I am stuck on this plane for 21 hours. So like, you're absolutely right. Wanting to drive somewhere is starting to become a much more palatable option.

And I won't even get into who rushed to this man's aide and who instead took out phones to film him die. I'll let I'll let you and your listeners guess what demographic did what. And that's because, you know, we've failed them. So that's why they act that way. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee a visit filled with Festi, Experience a story of Ireland's most iconic beer in a stunning Christmas setting at the Guinness Storehouse. Enjoy seven floors of interactive exhibitions and finish your visit with breathtaking views of Dublin City from the home of Guinness. Live entertainment, great memories and the gravity bar.

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Like, it's all going to fall apart. It's all going to fall apart. How are these suburbs of houses outside of Houston where you're 90 minutes from town, depending on a Walmart? How's that Walmart going to get anything when like the highways between, you know, the port and the Walmart, you know, trucks snap their axles.

Yeah, that's what, like, that's why. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, again, I know I'm a nerd about this. I know I'm a little bit autistic about this. I know it's tiresome for some people. It will break and people will starve.

Like a road that can hold and a fully loaded 18 wheeler requires people to really care about the substrate of that road, really care about the paving of that road, really care about the maintenance of that road, really care about the maintenance of the truck, really care about making sure that all the tires are properly inflated, making sure that the drive train of the truck is properly maintained. If the people who are, you know, now being put in charge of this stuff, either don't know or don't care about any of that stuff, stuff is just going to start breaking. Dee, you can't tell me that a major reason that you believe in God is because, like,

you just look how everything is just hung together by bailing wire and hope. Like, I remember you talking about our rail system in the United States and just how the catastrophic conditions that all these things are already under. And we're not even getting to how they're going to get even worse. So it's like one of the reasons I still maintain a belief in the divine is like, when you see just how everything is held together by a wing and a prayer, either literal or metaphorical, it's, it's mind-blowing, mind-blowing. And that's just, that's to go along with you and say, I agree.

And I also want to address a point you raised earlier insofar as the whole autistic white dudes need to, you need to have a ton of them to do this stuff. Well, that's what I think women need to be reminded of. It's like, no, you got to bang this guy because he's why you have a road. He's why you have food. Yeah, testosterone built that. Like, like, seriously. Like, I mean, like, I know, honey,

I know, I know. You don't want to hear him talk about, oh, hey, the yellow lines are really cool. Like, look, look at how symmetrical they are. I get it. He's boring, okay? But you know what you like? You like a roof over your head? You know, you like running water?

Well, I suggest you lay down and think of civilization. Lie back. Lie back and think of the first world. Because if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, like, because if you don't bang the guy. Because if you don't bang the autistic white guy and take one for the team, you're not going to like where you end up. You're not going to like where you end up.

And that's actually, you know, Jose was talking about this. But all these women, these millennial women who didn't do that, right, they want the benefit of being the wife of the guy who maintains the water or maintains the road or many, you know, you know who should get that? The guy who gave that guy three kids. that's the only people that deserve the benefit of that. Right. It's absolutely right because she paid the dues. She understood, okay, I want to live at a certain standard of living.

And I'm willing to forego, you know, fill in the superstar of the day. You know what? This guy's decent. He doesn't drink away all our food money. He doesn't smack me around. You know what? Hey, there could be way worse lives and women throughout history have lived them. So I'll bite the bullet a little bit.

I'll learn to love them because that. That's what women can do, and it'll be okay. And you're absolutely right. She's the one that deserves. No, I get a washing machine. I get heat in the winter. I get air conditioning in the summer. You know why?

Because I was willing to compromise like an adult. I was willing to understand maybe life is a series of tradeoffs. Is that what you're putting down, D? Am I picking it up properly? No, that's exactly right. And like, why should, you know, BPD, millennial woman with last top job that's fake. Sure.

Who's voted for comment is her entire life. Like, like, this lady's voted against me my entire life. She's, she's done nothing but like, make my life difficult. Why should I do anything as,

as one of those autistic white dudes who keeps things running? Well, let me kind of, why should I help her with anything? Let me kind of just piece, piece in with your, without obviously, without doxing you or your family.

Like, like, like, who deserves civilization, her or your wife? You know what I mean? The woman that gave you, How many kids, I won't say that's, I'm not doxing anybody, but like, who was the one changing diapers and wipe and vomit off of everything and crayon off of the refrigerator?

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then yes well technically I think it was like oh wait I saw it okay what about you Charles you remember the first time you saw it yes yes I remember I distinctly lost interest after I want to say the first 10 minutes or whatever but I yes yes I recall seeing it. DE? Yeah, I saw it in like 2007, I think. Okay. When you saw it, you looked at it just the same way I did.

It's like, oh, man, you know, it's probably going to be 50 or 60 or 70 years. You know, they're saying 500 years, but it's probably going to be 50, 60 or 70 years. But, I mean, it's 18 years later. And I... I know it's a meme, but the fucking thing has come true. Yeah. I mean, can we talk about the fact that the secretary of defense while we're like picking, while there's like several major wars going on, like left the job for a month and no one noticed?

Yeah. I mean, mercy didn't tell anybody. And second, no one noticed. And third, he came back blacker than when he left. He no called no showed. This. Lord. I mean, like, one of the things I used to talk about is like, who was in George Washington's

cabinet, right? He had a part-time bit of Trinity General. Alexander Hamilton was the Secretary of the Treasury. He had a Secretary of State. He had a Secretary of the Navy and a Secretary for War, I think. Right? So, no matter what you think of the federal government, like, Like the guy running the defense department is one of those important jobs.

We can argue about whether we need the Department of Education or not. But if George Washington thought, I need a guy in charge of the military, it's probably a pretty important job. I'm just saying, like there's continuously been a guy in charge of like, you know, defense of the nation.

What? I mean, what? The dude left the job for a month and didn't tell anybody. And we're supposed to be like, oh yeah, we're going to start a war with Russia and China and Iran all of the same. time.

His dad went out for a pack of cigarettes and never came back. I guess he figured a month wasn't too long. He said, figure out. Wow. That was racist. Oh, I'm sorry.

But true. And this is the, like, have you seen, have you seen the things where people are showing pictures of him before? And these aren't pictures where he's like, like speaking or, under lights. It's pictures

of him where he's actually doing just regular everyday stuff before and after and he's actually like blacker now and his ears have completely changed. I don't put it past that they're just fucking with us at this point.

I'm convinced there's five Bidens. There's been like five different Bidens. If you put in Joseph Biden into Google, hit image and just start scrolling, it will fuck you up. It will make you think, it'll make you

question reality. Because there are, there are pictures of Joe Biden in there that look nothing like the Joe Biden you remember, Joe Biden now. I don't know if it's Mandela effect. I don't know what the fuck's going on. But there's some weird shit going on

with these people. I'm sure they have body doubles. No doubt. Well, like, can we talk about, I don't think I've ever talked about this. Okay, Pete, you and I've talked privately. Like, we both knew that Barack Obama was, um, bad from the other team in, in, um, in like 2007, right? Yeah. Like, it just came out within the last six months that actually the crazy conspiracy

dude who was like, Barack Obama's a cake. Can you just crack is actually true? And, and people just kind of went, oh, no big deal. Yeah. What? What? The former president of the United States is. Is it is a gay, can you like, like, what?

And I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to just sit here and be like, oh, yeah, this is, this is fine. Like, you know, dog and house burning me. But here's, like, here's why it's a good thing. That's the next article. But here's why it's a good thing. Here's why it's a good thing that, you know, Barack Obama. Like, and I knew, Larry, I was telling people, people were looking at me completely insane in 2007, when I'm telling people,

you know, there's this Larry Sinclair guy. People are like, are you, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, he offered to take a lie detector test and he's offered to pay for it and no one wants him to take a lie detector test. He's offered to pay for it. I didn't even hear that one.

Right. So like the media, right, covered up the fact that this dude was, you know, at least played, both, you know, played both sides of it. We can talk about big mic another time.

Joan Rivers says something and then she dies the next day. I'm a little suspicious. But, um, right? Like, and the same media that will cover up 60, you know, oh, like 60 million, 60 million sacrifices to Moloch in the United States. It's no big deal.

You know, this dude's, uh, this leading presidential candidate is gay. And we're supposed to just ignore all this. This is, I mean, we've kind of talked around it a bunch. But the real reason, and I mean, Jose, I've read all your work for the last several months and it's outstanding. I strongly recommend people follow Jose and read all of his writing as well as

Pete's. But like, you should be. you know, Pete should have his own Sunday morning show, you know, like, you know, load the press at some, you know, at, you know, 10 a.m. on Sunday with Pete Cunonez, right? Like, hate the, hate the press with Pete Canones. It's Sunday mornings at 10 where, you know, Pete just hosts panel discussions like this, when or others. And, and, you know, weekly, right? Like, if we had an honest media, you know, Pete would be running his, own Sunday show.

You'd be, you know, the leading opinion columnist and major newspapers all over America. You know, instead of that absolute moronic mediocrity, what's the blowhard with New York Times, Lexus and the Olive Tree, I can't remember his name. A freedman, yeah.

Instead of freedman, you know, you'd be writing leading editorials for people because you actually tell the truth and are, you know, an engaging writer. as opposed to being boring and dumb. I mean, it's one thing to be boring. It's nothing to be dumb. It's a whole other thing to be like,

if you got to be one, at least don't be the other. Right. I got you. And it is precisely because their lies are falling apart like in front of your face. Like you can't tell me that like having the door fall off an airplane mid-flight where they got a bunch of video on it.

Like, oh, this is fine. This is good. This is, you know. well hey um excuse me uh aren't there supposed to be like rivets in that hole in the wing and the airplane that keep the airplane attached to the rest of the plane oh yeah actually that that's a good idea we should do that um like i haven't been really following this thing with with mark Cuban on Twitter but like like like when a bloodthirsty maniac with a billions of dollars is like you know actually instead of being grateful that like my family fed

the program in Ukraine and like we got here and I made billions of dollars by, you know, arbitraging, um, you know, computer stuff through Taiwan, whatever. Instead of being grateful, he's like, I hate all of you and want you to die. Maybe, you know, people should actually pay attention to be like, why is this guy saying this? Why does he feel like he can sit here and like threaten Americans? when when America's been nothing but good you know to mark jabitinski he's gotten fame and fortune he's you know on shark tank and he's he's got all these things you know he's successful television show he owns a Dallas Mavericks he's got billions of dollars oh and by and by the way he didn't buy the

Dallas Mavericks um what's her what was trump's um benefactor's name the the the Jewish gambling guy uh Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Sheldon Aitelson. Yeah, his wife, his wife, his wife, yeah, he bought the Dallas Mavericks and put it in Mark Keminisky's name. Oh, okay. So, yeah, so he can engage in financial fraud to the tune of billions of dollars and, um, like, like, uh, I can't, I can't use, uh, well, you don't have, you don't have the press running, you know,

running interference for you 24-7. Yeah, that's the, that's it. Yeah, I mean, it's the narrative. It goes back to the narrative. I don't know, do you know Josh Neal? Yeah. American Extremist, good book. Yeah, well, got an episode coming out with him tomorrow.

And, you know, we're going to be talking about individualism, anarchism, and psychopathy. But we're, but we're going to do an episode soon about narrative, American extremists, because that's one of the big things he talks about in the beginning of it. It's the narrative. Who owns a narrative? Who runs a narrative? It's something I was saying in 2020 when all this was happening. Who owns a narrative?

Well, if you do not have control over the narrative, if you can't put your own narrative out there and it can't go wide, well, I mean, then maybe you're going to have to just concentrate on a local narrative of some sort because, you know, I'm, I think that's pretty much where all this breaks down in the future is going to be local, decentralized. And, you know, if we want our, you know, if you want, if DE wants his, his NS society and, you know,

I want whatever I want, it's going to have to be local. And I think that's where all this is headed. I mean, not to, I'm just trying to steer this in a direction. now because what we're talking about is we're talking about chaos and everything is in chaos. And I think really the only way that we can possibly get order is locally. And yeah, I mean, that's what I've prepared to do. That's what I've been working on since I ended up in this and where I ended up. Thanks to Oliver Semiagog, who suggested.

the county and now it's 15 minutes away for me. So maybe we can start building our own little thing here. Well, it's certainly, it's certainly not going to, like, planes ain't can be reliable for much longer there, chief. Like, hate to break it to you. But unless something very drastic changes, you know, when the FAA is like, you know, what we really need more air traffic controllers of color and women. Like, and they publicly state this.

And you have, you know, pilot's unique will being like even though I failed my first check ride like for those of you know what that is that's like that's like when you've gone through ground school and gone through the simulator and done everything you need to do and then you actually take you up on a plane and like a guy who actually knows what he's doing who was probably an air force naval a aviator and has a couple thousand hours behind his under his belt sits down and says okay you fly the plane and then he watches you and goes oh hell no and then takes the stick from you that's what happened like when a guy who's like an instructor pilot tries to take you up on a plane and he goes nope and then takes the plane from you that's bad okay and uh you know oh i still get to fly like what you failed to check ride like you literally need to go back to school like this is not acceptable like you don't know what you're doing stop

Yeah, to expand on the localism theme. I think what we're talking about with the collapse of infrastructure, this is another thing that many people are taking for granted, like cheap, reliable travel and just like a functioning like infrastructure system. It's just going to compel a lot of people now to do much more like activism and outreach in meat space IRL. because you're just not going to be able to do all this, like, fancy traveling to meet up with people and all of that stuff as reliably. So you're going to be forced to, like, interact with your immediate community. And it could get so bad that, like, I could foresee a scenario where people will just have to, like, not only, um,

downsize a lot of like their lifestyles, but they may have to like, um, go much more, um, primitive and then they will have to start, um, banding together and do a lot, uh, and focusing much more with like physical type of interactions because, um, I do think that in, um, my time in working in politics, um, especially, whether it's like in conservatism, Inc, libertarianism, it's been an extremely online. And because of now, um, of this, inflation pushes up building costs so it's important to review your home insurance cover to make sure you have the right cover for your needs

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going to be just going much more local yeah you know we um we found out on our property there was just a little hole in what is a driveway but it was really just a dirt driveway um that leads up to the carport and after our a really huge rain, it expanded. And it's perfectly circular. And it looks like we have a well. It looks like there was a hand dug well and everything. And all I could think was competency crisis, people suck.

I don't know if people are, I can rely on the government getting water out here at all. We have a backup now. It's like, okay, I have a hole in my driveway, but it also might be a backup. I mean, you just got to look at the silver linings of some things at this point, especially like free water. Yeah. And the other thing that, you know, Jose has worked in, there are many people who used to work in conservative politics that have kind of Kevin to Anna, Paul Kersey, yourself, Jose. others um you know the average republican knows what i know camala harris knows what i know you know everyone knows what we know

they just lie about it and rather than admit that like martin luther king wasn't a christian wasn't a good person was a communist you know like was a subversive they would rather die like your average republican politician if he said like like say Martin Luther King was a vile, godless communist, or I shoot your dog. They'd be like, shoot my dog, right? Publicly denounce Martin Luther King as a godless communist, or I shoot your dog. They would be like, I guess the dog is getting shot for 99% of them. And don't let, when a bus full of kindergartners gets hit by a train,

because the people who run things, like, let it happen or made it happen. Don't let them get off easy because they all know what I know. I might talk about, I might opinionate more than they do. But like, they know. They just refuse to do anything about it because they would rather someone shoot their dog than tell the truth about Martin Luther King. When an old granny gets robbed and beaten half the death and, you know, and carjacked, they know who's doing it.

Negey Buckelly proves that you can solve the problem. So they know and they just don't care because they'd rather bend to the narrative. And when you're down to just your local newspaper and, you know, your local newspaper reporters like, well, you saw it in Ireland, right? You know, the Irish were fighting. I don't know where the situation is. If you want to know more, you should probably follow Keith Woods. but I remember when things that just kicked off, there was a reporter who'd gone down to like one of the scenes

and he just got bullied. All the Irish folks were like, you're a reporter, get out of here. You need to leave. And he was this, you know, nerd in a bicycle helmet with a soy face and problem glasses. Like, when this sort of stuff starts happening, you need to say, I told you so. You need to say I told you so,

because otherwise it'll keep happening. When the conserv is like, well, I mean, maybe I guess if we change this thing a little bit of copper, like, no. You need to make Franco look like a pussycat. If you want running water and functioning roads and planes that don't fall out of the sky and families to function and wars, you know, endless, useless wars that have wasted trillions of dollars to stop, you need to make Franco look like a pussycat. And whatever that, however that makes, looks like for your locally. that's what you got to do. But like, you know, K. Ivy, Governor of Alabama, I think that's, right? She'll fold like a cheap suit.

So the people of Alabama need to, the people of Alabama need to be like, look, you need to make Jeff Davis look like a wimp, or we're getting rid of you, right? There's no, I mean, Jose, you tell me, but I've worked it a little bit in politics too and for the most part I mean they're just cowardly

yeah definitely um yeah I would agree with your statement that these people actually do know um because I was actually at a turning point event in uh December um it's like whole like America Fest thing and you talk to a lot of the attendees there

especially like the younger ones. It's like a fundamentally clear they knew about the taboo issues ranging from like immigration to race. And even some of the actual turning point people, staffers and all of that that I would talk to, if you were able to pry deeply in the conversation, you would figure out pretty quickly that these people kind of knew what's up. It's just that like the pundit tree

and the party apparatchiks in like GOP and like conservatism Inc and the conservative media complex, they're largely just cowards and they're just towing the line. But I think because of really the power of these ideas, now like you are seeing people like Charlie Kirk Payne nominal lip service to these concepts. And it just goes to show that you have to keep pushing the envelope. And I learned this through gun lobbying too that in AGR where I worked at, we were able to even change the establishment gun lobby's behavior where they would bend to our will eventually. Because one of the things we have to remember in politics is that the squeaky wheel gets to grease and you have to keep pushing the issue. But I do think these ideas have already, like, they've largely won.

Like, it was mentioned earlier before, like, Prop 187 was passed in California. Like, look at like pretty much all, a lot of polling in general. Immigration restrictionist measures are won a lot. It's just that now the question is, is a question more of mobilization, how to like best use our resources so that we can build a power base and then go from there to. change of policy and ultimately punish our opponents and all that. I think we've gone long enough. I mean, we could probably stay here for another hour, hour and a half if we wanted to. But I think at this point, we got everything off our chest.

Let me ask you guys a question. When we did the race war in high school, like the post-mortem on it, a couple people had said that we need to these four people need to do this every month is that something you guys going to be considered doing I'd be deeply honored and thrilled but not talking about obviously not talking about race war but just getting together and talking

talking amongst ourselves and talking about what's going on you know three men be all be on the wall slash donate if you know like Back at the point where he did. Backslash support. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Yeah.

And I actually have that. I actually have that as Peter R. Kenyones.com now. Okay. Well, whatever. Like, you know,

read Jose's columns by Charles's books. You know. Support Jose too, man. Yeah. Jose has a substack, subscribe. His podcast recently

have been fucking fire. His episode with Striker. don't miss it. Don't miss it. They talked about Sombart. And Sombard is somebody that I've really gotten into in the last year and a half. And Werner Sombart was, you know, he will, oh, I had Libertarians attack on me. He's a socialist and everything.

I'm like, well, what does that mean? Yeah. Does Libertaries? Send me a link privately. I'd appreciate it. I'm sorry. Send me a link privately if you could. I really want to listen to that.

You support the people that don't hate you. Yeah. Like it's really that simple, right? Yeah, really is. Like, you know, I reread one of Charles's books, the holistic guide to suicide about three weeks ago. And it's one of the wisest books I've ever read. You know, Pete's substack is, there's some,

some of my substacks where there's like, you have 37 unread articles. every time Pete publishes something, I read it immediately. I'm, you know, Jose Substack is fantastic. This not like, not only like canty on effects, like not only does bad money drive out good, almost more important than that, bad information drives out good information. if you want to live in a functioning society where it has clean water and roads the function the most important thing you can do as listen to this program

is spread good information spread some people subscribing to this show get people you know like if take everyone one notch further if you got someone who's listening to Fox News make sure they start listening to you know to get them to listen to Tucker Carlson if they're listening to Chuck Carlson get them get them talking to Tom Woods. If they're talking to Tom Woods, get them listening to Scott Horton and Ryan Dawson. If they're on those guys, you know, whatever, like get them better information that is replacing the bad information.

Because that's how they control the narrative. So many people think that like Rachel Maddow is like a centrist. That, that they're reliable, like she's not a far leftist. She's a, you know, kind of, you know, left liberal centrist type person, right? You know, the United States government destroyed Germans industrial economy by blowing up a pipeline and most people don't know about it. Most people don't know that Barack Obama's gay. Most people don't know that like the people who got killed in Jordan, right, like they're there as an occupying force. We're starting a war with Iran and we have bases in.

Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Yemen. We have, you know, the U.S. Navy, Bahrain. We have all this stuff there solely to do things like start a war with Iran. We, you know, Victoria Newman's people, right? Like she started the war with Russia in 2014. How many people know that? I mean, Pete knows that.

Very few. Right. You know, Jose knows that. We know that. But, you know, and the war or the, I will bring this up again and then shut my mouth because I've talked too much tonight. The Institute of Historical Review has been telling the truth for over 30 years. Mark Weber should be a household name if America was a serious country. And I will be talking to Mark Weber soon.

Awesome. In a just world, you know, Mark Weber, would be a household name. The only reason he doesn't have a PhD is that no one would give him one. He's a scholar and a gentleman. The fact that, well, no, no, seriously, Mark Weber, he, you know, he got a master's degree and then started telling the truth about some things. And then he just wouldn't get into a PhD program. Oh, I'll tell the story about Mark Weber. I went to American Renaissance last year and Mark Weber was there.

I have never been speechless in front of somebody before. I just, I didn't know what to say to him because, I mean, when I started reading Mark Weber in 1998, he, it just changed my mind so much. It was, it shaped my mind in a way that I'll never be able to thank him. And that's what I told him, I said, I'll never be able to thank you for what, you know, what you did. And, yeah, it's like, I don't miss his episodes with Frody, which usually drop every Wednesday on the Guide to Culture Channel. right yeah and he would be a household name and he would have a Sunday show and he'd be the guy that he'd be the expert that people talk to Jose's but again like the if you want Jose Nino to be the main opinion columnist in you know whatever replaces the Los Angeles Times or whatever replaces the Dallas Morning News when those inevitably go you know then you need to support the people to support you and push people because the contradiction are all there. You can ask, you can ask Norman conservatives. Why do we care about Iran's border or Jordan's border, but we don't care about the border with Texas? And there's a million one of those things you can do. And we replace the bad information with good information. People can slowly get to the truth. And, you know, I was just going to say, just to kind of riff off what you're saying very briefly. It's, it's simply a matter of embrace the truth. The truth cannot. set you free if you don't embrace it. If you flee from the truth, you cannot be set free. It's

impossible. You cannot break free from where you are unless you're willing to engage with the truth. And the prison around you is nothing but lies. Unfortunately, lies are easily destroyed by the truth, but you have to be willing to face it. So even if you don't like one, two, three, or all of us, it's irrelevant. We're not lying to you. That's why you should listen. You should listen. to Jose, to Pete, to D, and to myself. We're not lying to you. Nobody's asking you even to like us. It's listen to us because we're not lying to you.

And let the truth shine through. And you'll know it when you hear it. It's that simple. Don't flee from it. Well, I will make sure to put DE. I'll put your link to your telegram channel in the show notes. Jose, all your stuff will be in the show notes. notes.

What's the name of your, the substack again? Yeah, my substack is Jose Niño unfiltered. You can just go to JOSBCF.substack.com to find it there.

And then it also has my podcast, El Nino speaks, which you can download on iTunes and Spotify as well. Well, I appreciate you, gentlemen. And, yeah, I would like to do this more often, at least once. Let's try for once a month if you all like it.

Sign me up. Does that seem okay, Charles? Sounds great to me. I love the sound of it. D.E. I'd be flattered. I'm absolutely flabbergasted that anyone would want to hear me, Jaws, more. But thank you very much.

People love you, man. People love all of you. All right. Appreciate it. Take care, guys. God bless. I almost feel like I can't do a proper introduction when I have these guys on. So once again, I have Dark Enlightenment, Charles Spadil, Jose Nino.

We are going by the name for this month, at least, the Thought Crime Syndicate. And DE came up with that. Yeah, DE came up with that. I thought it was great. But who wants to start talking about Haiti? I think D.E. should kick it off. Go, D.E. I just point out that before we talked to the call,

Catherine Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary, who I think can read, but I'm not sure, is the elite of this island. And I will kick it off with that. Like, she's the high class one there. Yeah. Well, I mean, our elite isn't really much better. Air quotes around elite, of course,

have we qualified. So, I, I mean, yeah, that's, that seems to be an epidemic of all things. We got rid of the COVID, air quote, epidemic. And now we have an epidemic of elites, air quotes. So that's sort of where we are, I suppose. And what, I guess, fraternity, galate, all that stuff. I guess that's where this leads.

I guess this is where that leads. I wanted to start off. We can start getting into. into what's going on there. But I've seen a lot of people making excuses, especially libertarian types. Oh, look how the United States is. This is what they've done,

how they've interfered in it in Haiti over the past 10 years and 20 years and everything. If you really want to get a picture of Haiti, there's a book out. It's one of those forbidden books. It's by Hesketh Pritchard. It's called When Blacks, When Black Rules white. And it's the whole story of the 19th century of Haiti. Haiti won their independence in

1803, I believe it was. And it talks about after winning their independence the next century and how Hesketh Pretcher went there in, I think it was 1899, and what he witnessed. And how if there had been such a thing as a slasher horror movie at the time, what he walked into was absolute chaos where the, you have these very black and mulatto, you have a very black and a mulatto population who the mulattoes hate the black, the blacks, the blacks hate the mulattoes, the blacks, the blacks took over rule, and proceeded to, any white people that were on the island, they completely slaughtered, just killed them all, and then proceeded to genocide the mulattoes.

And high-state statistical affair. I mean, a lot of people don't realize that what, and I'm not trying to change the subject, I'm addressing the point you're raising specifically. A lot of people forget that in the U.S. Constitution, when they put race, color, and creed, that's exactly why they put color in there. because if you talk to anybody in the black community or for African American community, then you're going to see that there is a lot of colorist in that lighter skin versus darker skin. Anybody that's intellectually honest, which, you know, that's basically us and, you know,

maybe 10,000 other people in this country. But anybody that's intellectually honest will tell you anytime around the black community, that's still extant today. That's exactly white color is there. So I'm not surprised to hear that it was, it was a, factor in the Haitian uprising or revolts or independence, whatever term we choose to use. So that's an important note that people need to understand that colorism, colorist thinking is always present. It's omnipresent. It doesn't, it's not exclusive to any one community.

And the other point I want to raise specifically is I can't recall the exact quote. Your listeners can look it up and maybe somebody can pull it up on the side if they have a better internet connection than I do. But there's an actual quote by one of the revolution leaders in Haiti. It was something like we should write our Constitution on a white man's skin, use his skull as an ink well and a bayonet for a pen

and his blood for the ink. So you look that up. Again, I'm not surprised to find that that book discusses some serious horrors that were witnessed firsthand. You can't really understand the American Civil War

without understanding that Every single white planter, like, had nightmares of Haiti. Yeah, I didn't even think of that. That's excellent point. The revolutionist sent me, and there was a book. Matt Turner. Yeah, and Nat Turner.

And, like, so why were they so, like, insistence upon white supremacy? Because they saw what happened otherwise. There's a book. There's French and Spanish refugees from Haiti. and elsewhere, where were these uprisings who made it the way to New Orleans and Charleston with just horror stories. And, I mean, not to get too woo-woo, but like Haiti was literally frowned by like a satanic demonic ritual where like the people of Haiti were like made a deal with a demon

like, if we kill all the white people for you, you'll give us power. And they were like, yeah, sure, that sounds. And you can't. live with people whose idea of politics starts with like making deals with devils and killing you. And isn't that ironic that we're having the exact same problem now in America? So I mean, again, not to change the subject, but I think it's interesting that there's a direct, a direct correlation there with our Moloch worshipping, again, elite air quotes. To bring them back the point to libertarianism or whatever, there was one.

personal experience. I had that really solidified my views on more like racialist politics. When I was living in Chile, I was working at this like free market think tank as like a translator. And there was this guy that was working next to a white Venezuelan guy who lived in Chile for like 20 odd years or so. And he went on a trip to the Caribbean, specifically to Haiti and Cuba and his experience there was quite telling because during my libertarian phase

I would be led to believe that like Haiti would be like the more prosperous, orderly society based on the fact that it doesn't have like a communist regime or whatever but based on this guy's experience he said like he felt a lot safer and he noticed that Cuba

communism notwithstanding was actually like more orderly had better infrastructure than Haiti and that really made me start to change a lot of my precepts and priors with respect to how I viewed politics there. And that was like a, and the funny thing is too, Cuba has actually gotten wider over the last like 150 years. They used to be almost like 80% black in the middle of the 19th century. Yeah. Oh, I did not know.

You know what? You know what is really telling the we all know that Israel has a very secure. border around their country. Do you know what the securest border on the planet is? And I looked this up this week, and it's pretty much unanimous. Is it between Haiti and the Dominican Republic?

Yep, I was going to say it. Yeah. The Dominican Republic's border with Haiti. Immediately, people started, Haitians started fleeing to the other side of Spaniola.

And the Dominicans were like, turn around or we'll shoot you. they don't want them anywhere near and now they don't fuck around and for anybody who knows the DR is not one of the safest places I mean there's some great resorts there but there are some places

you definitely don't want to go and they're like you can't come anywhere near here well yeah I've heard the DR is described as mulatto white supremacists that's actually pretty accurate yeah And, I mean, this is a country whose main expert is baseball players.

We're not talking about a wealthy place. I was going to say, I think a very small sideline is also cigars, but I think that's about it. So we're not talking about wealthy people, but Drogilio, the dictator from the early 20th century, is like, no, we have to, because we are what we are, we have to have a very system set up for the realities of what we're dealing with. Like we don't have a lot of civilizational capital. We need to be very top down and manage our resources very correctly.

And we cannot, cannot let Haiti sink us. Because the second we, like, even open the tap just a little bit, every Haitian will be here. Yeah. Drinking from a fire hose at that point. Right. And Pete, something, you've been talking about Eric Prince a lot lately. And he said something. I think it was either his interview with Patrick, Pet, David, or BAP. But basically all of these people are seeking governance by white people.

Right? That's, that's, yeah. They want to live in societies run by white people, but they want a voice at the same time. Like, these are mutually contradictory. You just want, you want the peace, prosperity, good order, relatively fair, courts and whatever of of white civilization but you want to come here and then you want like a democratic saying the way things work and that's mutually country just look at the you know now falling apart case in Georgia with fanny willis and other stuff the well let's let's be honest

let's be honest de sorry to cut you off but just to kind of riff off of the point you're making let's be honest really what it is it's just a slightly modernized form of car cultism. It's just they want white people magic without white people. I mean, really, at the end of the day, that's what they want. You're exactly right. And so, um, you know, Eric Prince is like, we need to recolonize these people. And, you know, I think you're talking specifically about Africa. But, you know, the U.S. Marines, like, basically invaded Haiti and, like, took it over and ran it for twice in the 20th century. And it still, right? Like, the best roads in Haiti are the ones that they built in the, in the, 30s. Probably the only roads at this point.

If Africa is any indication, probably the only roads remaining. Isn't that the big point that's raised by the Chinese construction worker? Empire of dust. I actually did an episode of... The only thing standing is what somebody else built and even

that's falling apart. That's his line. That's not my opinion. That's his as a boots on the ground guy in Africa. So go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off. I actually did a pause button episode on that. If you look forward the pause button and Empire Dust, I actually did an episode on that many years ago. But like, you can't, right, AA, you know, America's one genuine spiritual innovation to the world. You can't solve a problem unless you deal, like, unless you admit that there's a problem.

And, you know, our regime is actual purpose is never admitting. like actively suppressing the truth that people aren't equal, right? Ideologically, the Nuremberg's point is we can't admit that there are real differences and that people are different. Otherwise, you know, all the, all the war crimes we pulled, like firebombing dressed in and torturing people is no longer morally legitimate. And so, like, it's literally an existential crisis for these guys. that if you even question whether or not like cannibal,

um, demon worshippers should be allowed to like be flown, you know, into your neighborhood and the government. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's for Joe Biden and for the democratic regime that we live under.

If they admit that Haitians are awful and no one should want to live around them, not even other Haitians, it's just it's that first domino right you know you guys have all seen the memes like Zoe Quinn cheats on dude and then like complete total you know the domino meme yeah right yep I'm familiar with you talk about yeah you know like that's that's literally what they're worried about right now yeah is the second you admit that like hey maybe people who worship demons and are cannibals and are violent and retarded shouldn't be like allowed to go to my children's high school you know, like, you know, this 23-year-old dude is like, I'm 17, you know, shouldn't be allowed

around my, you know, 13-year-old daughter at middle school. Yeah. You mentioned Eric, you mentioned Eric Prince, and I've been listening to him a lot lately. He's come back on the scene and been doing, he started his own podcast off-leash. I think everybody should listen to it. The last episode he did, he did an episode on Haiti, and he shared some personal experiences that he's had there. A lot of people will be like, well, you know, he's just this mercenary guy.

Eric Prince never had to work a day in his life. His dad invented like that, I think the, the visor in the car, the light that goes behind it, you know, the light behind it. I think his dad invented that. He's basically admitted he'll never have to work. He never had to work another day in his life. He joined the seals. He joined the military.

He saw inefficiency everywhere. and he decided to start his own private company. You know, and a lot of people have, you know, oh, well, they killed, you know, there was that incident where they killed civilians. It's like the military, the volunteer military does that, you know, on a weekly basis, on a monthly basis. Yeah. Okay.

So they're actually much better at what they do because they know that they can get fired. And then he sold the business, and now he's back out there. And I encourage people to go listen to him. When he says we want to colonize Africa, it's not because he's a neo-con, it's not because he wants the military industrial complex to, you know, to make money. I mean, he doesn't like the military industrial complex. He would rather every, he would, he would rather those contracts go to, you know, he's talked about how, you know, the F-35 project and how inefficient it is, how much money's been sunk into it. He's somebody who's talking about foreign policy who's actually making sense when he talks about the danger of China, when he talks about why Africa should be colonized. I mean, this is stuff that Yaki was talking about.

I mean, there's a problem. If China, you know, it's what I say is if China takes over Africa like they're doing, they could just unleash more Africans upon Europe and just completely overrun it even worse than it is now. They could unleash it upon here. There's reasons for all these things. But to get back to Haiti, you know, one of the things, you know, so he's talked about his latest episode, I think it's called The Purge or something, and it's like, and it's all about Haiti. But one of the things people have to understand about Haiti is the average IQ in Haiti is 67.

Okay. People can make all the excuses about IQ doesn't mean anything. I mean, you're just, you're out of your mind. Somebody who has a 67 IQ, I don't even know if they can be prosecuted for a crime in this country. I don't know if it even IQ measurements break down at the ages. Yep. You know, like, really, you know, what's the difference? Like, can you really measure the difference with the IQ of 190 to 195?

I mean, really, it's very difficult, right? you know, um, 67 is so low. It's like, how do you even tell the difference between like, is this person sentience or not? Like, seriously, this is not a digger at any kind of insult or anything, but like, is this person capable of sentient thought? I mean, it's a serious question. Yeah. You know, below 60. And if the average is 67, you know, a significant chunk of the population is going to have an IQ below 60.

I mean, are they even sentient? I'm not an psychologist. I'm not an expert to talk about this. But like, at what point do you go, is this person? Yeah. I mean, and immediately people are like, oh, we need to bring them here. And it's like, I lived, look, I lived in South Florida for a very long time. I lived in South Florida for almost 20 years.

That's where the biggest Haitian community is. And I'm going to say it. I knew a lot of Haitians that were really nice people. But for the most part, they're very unintelligent, and this is what Haitians were telling me. It was observable, but this is what Haitians would tell me, the Haitians that I knew who had higher IQ, who own their own businesses, who I did business with. They said, most of these people should not even be here. They said, they do not, they couldn't pass. He says, I don't know how they have driver's licenses because they couldn't pass a driving test, even if it was in their own, even if it was,

was in their own language. So he's just assuming that people are just given driver's licenses down there. And that's what, I mean, how many, you already have tons of them, Lake Worth, Florida, Lauderdale, Florida, Pompinot Beach, all these places and everything. And there is a good deal of crime in their neighborhoods. I mean, and immediately, you knew when this jumped off, the first thing I thought was, okay, well, it's about time that this happened because this has been boiling over

for a decade. But second, I'm like, they're going to want them to bring them here. And, you know, what do you, where are they going to put them? Well, where? We know exactly where they're going to put them.

We know exactly where they're going. Come on. We know exactly where they're going to put a voting box. Yeah, they're going to put them the breakup voting blocks. That's where they're going to put them. I mean, I understand what the question you're really asking is, you know, why they have no place here. Where do they belong?

But we know where they're going to put them. And I mean, to go back to Dee's point about the 67 IQ. And again, I'll follow along with you, D, in the sense that this isn't even about malice. I'm not even criticizing. I'm just pointing out. Like, picture the slowest kid in your class in high school and how much they would drag down the process and realize he's probably two standard deviations. smarter than 67. Like, just think about that.

And then extrapolate that to a civilizational level. We'll go back to your point, Pete, about the driver's license. Like, okay, now extrapolate that to plumbing, electricity, all of that. Like, just think what's going to happen when even 10 to 15% of your population is 67 IQ? It's all going to grind to a halt. Well, I can't understand why we're surprised that planes are literally full. falling out of the air at this point. It's like, that's not at all.

Matter of fact, I remember when I was on my way to Japan with my father for a trip in 2019, when we had to go through the security theater in the United States of TSA. Excuse me, pardon me, with the security theater in TSA. And I remember just thinking, I think I said this loudly in public. I was like, why are we doing this? What's the point? We just import people. and then let them work on the planes.

And then sure enough, if you look up in the news, like a few days after I left in September of 2019, some guy in Florida, where I flew out of, some Muslim that we led in, started to sabotage planes, and they caught him. And I was just like, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. And that's somebody that was intentionally sabotaging. Now, just imagine all the people that, due to DEI requirements,

we have to hire. And it's like, no wonder planes are falling out of the sky. Wait till buses start losing wheels in the middle of the street and swerving into your grandmother, waiting at the bus stop. Like, it's just what's going to happen? Boeing, there was an expose recently. The guy who died, right, shot himself twice in the head, the whistleblower. That's a little scary, but I, coincidentally, yeah. Right.

to Hillary Clinton was nowhere was it was has an alibi right uh anyway there was there was some hidden camera type footage of of the Boeing plant and less I'd be accused of of racism there were a lot of really trashy white people who were like oh no people are on drugs once you lower the tone of the society lets you make it more present oriented less there's a lot of people who could have been productive say 50 years or 60 years ago or 70 years ago in the 1950s who were just, you know, kind of working class trash who would spend all their paychecks on booze, but could be reliably, you know,

counted on to show up to work five days a week. And they built the American West, dude. Yeah. Like look up the history of boom towns. That's literally who you're talking about. But go ahead. Prove your point. That was to prove.

I know some of these people. Yeah. Anyway, right now, right, they're, they're high on weed. They do other drugs because our society has been lowered. You know, we've normalized marijuana to the point where it's not even really a crime anymore in most states. I mean, huge chunks of, you know, many states have legalized it. And, you know, are you surprised that this society? is no longer capable of building complex machinery.

You know, like WD40 as the as the lubricant or don't know. Don just soap as the as this as the lubricant in the seals on the doors. Are you are high? Oh, wait, yeah, they are high. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, yeah, like, oh, hey. Dawn soap, it'll it'll take care of, you know, oil slicks off a duck's back, wash your chicken

you'll loop up your airplanes just the it'll do it make sure to get the spicy brand yeah yeah in terms of this regression I would also

keto flavored dawn soap I would also I would also add that when it comes to like Haitian mass migration and other like permutations of like third rule migration. It's just like an invitation for the resurgence of medieval disease epidemics.

Like, you don't realize this, but that in Chile, they had a pretty nasty wave of Haitian mass migration from like 2013 until like 2020. And for the first time in like over a century, they had like the first cases of like leprosy breakout because of that and um like people don't get this that it was obsessed about like novel viruses

like the sweet and sour sickness and all that but like I'm more afraid of the type of like medieval diseases that are supposedly eradicated in the West coming back because of the fact that we're just um importing like the trash heaps of all of all the global south.

And that's something that is not talking. You're 100% right, Jose. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You're 100%. I'm just emphatic. In my support of what you're saying, that's why I was so eager to jump on.

Because I worked for immigration for almost a decade. And that's one of the things that I've been trying to scream about and getting people to understand. I think it's just so absolutely indicative that we live in a serious clown world to borrow a my posting career term. we live in an absolute clown world that we just got done undergoing. Again, my fingers are going to break by making so many air quotes, pandemic of COVID where we all were masked and boosted and all this nonsense.

And now we're just letting the entire third world come in, bringing whatever infections they have. And to continue with your point, Jose, you are 100% right. We saw leprosy come back. We're going to start seeing the bubonic plague come back. You're going to start. Matter of fact, we'd almost completely gotten, people don't realize this, we'd almost completely gotten rid of bed bugs in the continental United States,

almost completely got rid of them. And now they're back. Now they're back bigger than ever. Because again, people are bringing them in. People don't understand that civilization is only 20% innovation. It's 80% maintenance. And if people don't maintain the things that they have, the levels of cleanliness that they have,

then it all goes back to to use your term to a medieval disease level. And that's, I couldn't possibly support you more, Jose. Everything you said is 100% right. And that's why it drives me crazy that these people are like, oh, COVID, long COVID. It's like, bro, you're going to get the plague in a couple months. You're like, hyphen. Yeah, like Ninja, what are you talking about? Like the sniffles are the least of your worries.

Have you seen what happens when people don't have clean water? Do you know what mass dysentery does to people? Yes. Like people don't understand. Like I almost, I literally almost died. I was unconscious for 36 hours. And then six months later, my appendix ruptured. I almost died on the table.

And that's just because I had a bad flu. Now, to be honest, I was in terrible shape. I was in alcohol. I had made a lot of bad choices up to that because my life fell apart. But the show isn't about me. I'm just saying that, like, you don't. don't need the bubonic plague to kill you. You can die of dysentery, as Dee just said. You can die of diarrhea. You can die of all these other things. If your level of cleanliness and your personal health isn't that great, you'd be surprised just how much out there is waiting to get rid of you, waiting to take you off the planet. Some of you guys might remember the big earthquake that happened Tady about 15 years ago, right? The UN brought, you know, uh, dysentery to Haiti and now it's endemic. Um, because of some peacekeepers from I think

Nepal who wouldn't, you know, who, uh, weren't clean and, and then use the rivers. Now it's in the rivers in Haiti. Um, and, and Port of Prince has millions of people and no sewers. And you're bringing people who live in a gigantic slum with millions of people and no, sewers to America and expecting things to work out. Like you're going to get, you're going to have outbreaks of dysentery in South Florida. Dissentery. Basically,

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Pete, but basically Florida is just basically a big swamp from about, I don't know, Jacksonville down. Like the entire panhandle of Florida is just a gigantic swamp, right? Can you imagine how bad things will get if you get dysentery in that, like, just

oh God. Good. It's gracious. endemic to the swamps in Florida? It's a disaster. No, it's, I mean, it's, it's horrifying down there because it's just so hot and it's so wet. It's like if a, if a flu does, if something breaks out down there, it's just, it sticks around forever because there's no place for it to hide. I mean, you have to wait for, you know, hopefully a 60 degree day or something like that. But the one thing I did want to say is that when Eric Prince talks about colonizing Africa,

I mean, he's really talking about. What he's talking about is looking at them as children and even having an attitude of like nobles obligé, where it may be our duty to try and do something for these people. But the problem is, is we've tried that before. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Yes.

And I, when you look at Haiti, It's like, okay, you would literally, if the average IQ is 67, you would have to bring people in there. They would have to create industry. They would have to run the industry. And basically these people, all they would be is a class of people who walk up with a bowl and saying, thank you, please, may I have some more. So I did a quick Excel calculation, Pete, Norm just for those of you interested. You can kind of just check how much of a podcast.

population is below a certain IQ. You've entered the mean and all that. 32% of the people in Haiti with an average IQ of 67 and assumed standard deviation of 15, which is, you know, the normal, right? 32% of the people there have an IQ below 60. Jesus right. So, I mean, it might be more. It might be less.

But you're talking about a substantial chunk of the population somewhere between 20%, 30%, 40%, maybe as much as half, that is literally too dumb to do anything. The United States military found that if you have an IQ below 83, they can't train you for anything useful. Yep, I remember that, yeah. And this is why what we're doing talking about is so important, because Jordan Peterson will bring that up. Well, you know, that the U.S. military has found that no one with an IQ below 83 is capable of doing anything useful in the military. untrainable. And this is a really severe problem because that's a substantial part of the population.

Okay, Jordan, but who is it? And then what do we do with the one talking about here? If you didn't know a constitution, it'll boost their IQ, though. If you didn't have a constitution. Rub some magic dirt on it, coach. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Right.

And, Dee, just to step back to something very, very briefly, you were talking earlier about how this is an existential crisis for the globalists, the sense of once they admit that their differences, everything starts to fall apart, right? You recall mentioning that earlier in the program. Well, I mean, this is just more proof in the putting of that in that what are you going to do with these people? Eventually, you have to realize that your way of life can no longer exist if these people are here. And I'm not even referring to anyone specific when I say these people. I just mean, a basic incompatibility of civilizations. And that's why the big tent, I think we're seeing the big tent beginning to collapse

because more and more people are saying, you know, ex-population is just completely incompatible with mine. And there is no way around it. It has to be confronted and one will defeat the other. You can't just keep propping up the weaker parts of it. And to kind of use that to segue back to point Pete was making about, Prince and saying that we need to the noblesse oblige and this paternalistic attitude. Well, paternalism is great, but keep it to your own family.

Otherwise, at best, it's a waste of resources. At worst, you're just opening the door to future problems. If you want to go to a foster home and pick up kids and, you know, try and help them out and raise them, that's great. That's sweet of you. But understand that that's going to be bringing a lot of problems into your. home because they aren't of your blood, they aren't of your foundation, and they may be incompatible with you.

And that's not to say that charity is a bad thing necessarily, but what I'm trying to say is a paternalistic attitude in the 19th century is exactly what got us where we are today. I mean, think of how many people build hospitals and roads and everything in the 19th century, and they're all gone. They're just all completely, what was the point of that? Let's look back at race war in high school, the episode that I appeared on, talking about what happened to my family and the families of countless others that spent their lives teaching in these institutions. Like, where did that go? Okay.

So now my father doesn't have a relationship with his own children. You know, we were all sacrificed on the altar of diversity. Where is this paternalism getting anybody? Is it really helping the people over whom you're being paternalistic? Probably not. Or if it is, it's for a very limited time. and it's hurting the people that you should be paternalistic to, your own children, either metaphorically in the sense of your nation or yourself, literally, as in your own children. I'll exercise my autistic anarcho-capitalist pass for today.

I think that there is some validity to Eric Prince's venture at a privatized scale in Africa, in concurrent. with like a proper like immigration patriot order where we just have um huge fences against um Haiti and other denizens of the third world where I think that there is probably a role for like highly competent um private like military institutions and advisory institutions to at least like somewhat stabilize these countries um and all all while we have like strong borders but I do agree that um I think like these mass scale colonial like paternalistic ventures like conducted by estates and whatnot um we've already tried that the west has tried that with then it's it's just not worked it's not very sustainable but I do think that

there um there might be like a role for some of these privatized ventures but I think that ultimately we have to focus on our civilizations first before we start talking about like I don't know preserving like wildlife in Africa and all this other shit because um yeah but i do think this is a telling moment though with the whole Haitian crisis because these people on these parasites that lord over us use every possible crisis abroad to just justify bringing in like migrants no matter what and this case is very telling because i think like just bringing in like masses of Haitians and Africans is like an accelerationist version of mass migration that will put massive strain on the system and bring out about possibly a mass die-off because of like

just as we mentioned before about the medieval diseases and whatnot and already like questionable health of the general American populace like this is not something to talk about lightly whatsoever well I know that um prince has brought up Hernando de Soto and his book The Mystery of Capital. And the work that DeSoto was able to do, I mean, notwithstanding his, not to mention his support for NAFTA,

the creation of NAFTA, but the work he did in Peru helping them to basically institute a modern kind of economic system. I mean, I believe he thinks that he, the good can be done and that, you know, at least if we try to help that, you know, it's like, when I look at Haiti, it's like we either, at this point, it's either we do something there and the country does

something there, the government does something there, or they're going to come here. I don't think that. Or we sink boats. I mean, that's why. I mean, but, you know, but they're going to get, they're going to get, they'll have, Coast Guard cutters bringing them here. Okay?

I mean, that's the way it worked. That's the way it worked in 1970 and 1980. Okay. So something needs to be done. I mean, they've, it can't be the Clinton Foundation because we know that was just a, basically a pedophile outfit.

It turned into pedophile tourism for all of their friends. Thank you. but um but i mean yeah that was but the something's going to have to be done and i mean i i just don't know what it is because how do you you can bring there we know that there were there were lower IQ civilizations that have you know south korea south korea 100 years ago the average IQ was insanely low and now it's it's gone up okay it can happen It's not,

they're not stuck there. Yeah, but North Korea has also gotten so smart that they're going to like be gone. Well, that's the problem. They got too smart for their own. That's the problem using neoliberalism.

That's the problem with using neoliberalism is the answer. And, Bocahoram, the terrorist group in North Africa, it literally means female education is forbidden in their, their local, I think,

Wolof language. And, uh, And actually, they're not wrong because female education is the number one predictor of like lack of fertility. Eric Prince has 12 children. And he's been married three times. His first wife died of cancer in her late 30s, which is pretty tragic. But then.

Yeah, not really tragic. So if everyone did what he did, right, had tons of money in like a bunch of kids, we could, you know, like we could provide good governance to all these people. But all 12 of Eric Prince's children are going to be necessary in the United States just to keep the lights on here. Yeah. Yeah. It's not possible for, you know. But the most important thing.

The most important thing was born in South Africa. And is English as anyone because England had planted itself in Kenya in South Africa and, you know, all these other Australia. And because everyone had six, seven, eight, nine, ten children. Right. The most important thing is you want to make sure that they're not coming here. And one of the ways that if you had a regime that had a mind, you know, that that wasn't running on this obsolete software and hadn't just adopted hatred towards everything that the country was founded upon, you could figure out a way to keep them there. and make it so that at least they don't want to come here. At least that we or or and be able to suppress anybody who would be,

who would want to bring them here for nefarious purposes. But, you know, we're not, we're not there. And, you know, I guess that I'm, I'll try to use that as a segue into something that I wanted to talk to DE about because I released an episode this, this week with, goes by Catgirl Coolock. Gentleman, he lives in Canada, uses the whole cat girl thing as a way to try to throw off the doxers. Probably doing pretty good so far, so I'll give it to him.

But the episode was basically talking about the entitlement problem here. And one of the problems, and I'll link this to what we're just talking about, one of the ways they say, oh, well, the way we're going to solve this entitlement issue is because white people aren't having enough kids, we need to import more people in here and that'll solve the problem. One billion Americans. Yeah. It's interesting because this goes back to our race war in high school episode.

I think it was Chapter 7 people, you and I were talking about it, the ridiculous pensions that the teachers had to be given in order to go teach in these jungle schools. that's now the fruit of that 50 years later is what's you know causing the entitlements crisis the Nuremberg regime is built on not acknowledging certain realities about well biology really it's funny it's funny you bring that up D just because I was just talking to my dad yesterday and he was saying how he's so glad that he made the choices he did because his pension's been so good now because he'll be 86 this year and he sees all these other people in his age bracket that are still those that are still alive, obviously, that are struggling. And I'm just like, well, Dad, good for you. What about the rest of us? You know, because they bribed you and you took it. And, you know, we're all struggling now.

Your own kids, your own nieces, your own nephews. And he's like, oh, oh, wait. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I didn't even realize that. I was like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, yeah, you're not wrong. I'm agreeing with you.

That's to give you, like, at least anecdotal proof of what you're saying. I'm familiar. It's, and California is completely broke. It's one of the reasons I left there. Illinois, New Jersey, New York, like, they're all completely underwater. And Pete, did you want me to get into why all these cities are going to go broke real quick? Or is that something? Yeah, go ahead.

No. Okay. So, I'm going to condense this as my. much as possible and try and limit my tism. But let's just say that there's a town outside of Atlanta that they're going to build the new suburb and they're going to call it peach tree acres. And there's a thousand houses in there and they each pay $1,000 a month or $1,000 a year in property, Texas, just as for ease of math. So that's a million bucks. Okay. And the city is, is like we need new growth and development.

We'll put it in this suburban house. But it costs $10 million to put in all the housing, all the streets, all the roads, you know, to 1,000 families, right? That's, you know,

at one and a half kids per family, that's 1,500 kids. That's two new elementary schools, a fire station, a police station, you know, whatever, a mini mall,

you know, a Walmart. All this. stuff grows up around piece tree acres and is necessary for new schools and what have you. So everything else costs $10 million. That's 10 years of the taxes that, you know, area pays to replace everything in the 20 years it takes to when you need to replace all the pipes and everything else, assuming a constant cost and no inflation in materials costs and everything else, which we all know is not the case, right? Well, that means that other 10 years of revenue needs to do things like pay for the new school, the fire station, the police station, the teacher's salaries, and everything else. And basically, cities have been papering over this difference between how productive the suburb is with how much a lot of.

costs with bonds and further expanding the growth. And cities and states can't print money. So modern monetary theory might or might not be true, but it certainly doesn't apply to, say, the state of Florida or the state of Georgia. And when, you know, a thousand Haitians move in to mangrove of acres in West Florida, Florida and they're paying $1,000 a month in property taxes and all this other stuff, right? Not only are they not paying for themselves, but over time. And not only are they probably going to be a burden because of their low IQs, but the teachers at the school that teach the Haitian kids, their pension, right, just adds to the crisis more because that they're not going to, that community is,

it's not going to pay, not only for itself in terms of like pipes and roads and everything else, the things for like the school, the teacher's pensions, they're not going to be able to cover that, even if they were, you know, 100 IQ white people, let alone, you know,

67 IQ or 80 IQ Haitians. So each one of these kind of crises all rolled together into a thing where we're, We're out of money and we're running out of productive people who could cover the, you know, cover the bill. Right? Yeah. It doesn't matter where Haitians live. They're never going to be a net again, right?

Maybe one out of ten of them meets that at 85 IQ threshold for being a productive member of society. And that number is not going to go down as AI and C&C machine. Like that number has been creeping up of like, like threshold of minimum threshold of IQ in order to be a productive citizen is not going down. It's going to go up until things fall apart and then it's, you know, then we'll see and it's mad Max. But, you know, jobs, janitor jobs are getting cognitively demanding because you're asked to do all this stuff with machines and computers and, you know. Yeah, not to do not to derail

your thought, but just to add on to it. Yeah, just look at auto mechanics as a perfect example. look how technologically advanced that's become. It used to be working on a basic engine, and now you have a great deal of computer work alongside it. So please continue. I was just trying to get. So it doesn't matter. Like the very nature of the state and local governments is doomed to fail.

And when, you know, the teachers union is in a fight with the firemen's union, which is in a fight with the, you know, prison guard. Union for the last dime that California or Illinois has because we're coming to that fairly soon, you know, by 2030, that's not that far away, you know, six years from now. They're not only going to be like much less effective at their job, but it's going to be the the dominant crisis in our state houses, you know, because every state house in America has one or two people who are, might as well just say, you know, from the N.A, you know, tattooed on their face. They're not there to represent anybody, but they're the teachers union's man in the state house or woman, most likely. Right. Or the prison guards union, you know, the correction officers are a very powerful union in the state of California.

Right. And they get what they want. So you're going to have all of these groups instead of actually solving problems. They're going to be fighting over the scraps. We're at the looting stage. And things, a state government is busy making sure that, you know, the teachers union gets their piece of the pie. And the correction officers union gets their piece of the pie and the firefighters and the police and whoever, like all of these different groups that are at the trough. And the DEI coordinator gets their piece of the pie and whatever is not going to be able to do things like basic governance. There's only 168 hours in a week.

If you're interested in, you know, sexual harassment training and diversity training and and making. There's just not enough time. And you're seeing it now, like Charles was saying with all these, I mean, how many, how many in the last two months, how many major incidents have there been with bowling aircraft? Like 10? I mean, it's bad, you know, and I'm the infrastructure doom dude. And I'm shocked and amazed at how bad it's been. And keep in mind, too, again, not to derail your point, but keep. in mind, too, that's just what we're hearing.

You know, that's just what makes the news. That's just what makes the, that's just what manages to make our section of the news. And I flatter myself that all of our listeners are well aware of their own workplaces, what they do for a living, their own industries, et cetera, where they know how many things just get swept under the rug because somebody doesn't want to fill out the paperwork, the company doesn't want the attention, et cetera, et cetera. I don't care if you're in security. you're in manufacturing, you're in civil engineering, it doesn't matter. I'm sure every guy seated at this table metaphorically knows that a significant percentage of the problems that they encounter just get swept under the rug and everybody moves on. So again, not to belabor a point, just to tie it back up, that's just what we're hearing about Boeing.

So can you only imagine by an order of magnitude, probably multiple orders of magnitudes, really happening. Yeah, it's, and again, you know, it's existential for the regime to not tell the truth about this stuff because the second you did, you'd have to admit a bunch of stuff that they don't want to admit, right? Can, you know, look me in the face and tell me Kamara Harris is capable about being honest about race and sex. I mean, I would just laugh you out of the room, right?

Like, she, she can't because to admit that, like, she made, her bones on her knees and that she's dumb and stoned all the time. And part of the reason she's dumb and stoned all the time is that she's a girl and that she's not white. You know, she can't. I will say, I will say this, you know, after talking to Kulak this week and D.E. told me about that episode and told me about the substack that he had written. And I immediately reached out. really the only way for them to kick the can down the road that I can see, and maybe I know DE and Jose, you were econ nerds at one point just like me. Really, the only way that I see that they can do this,

and I'm not advocating it, obviously, is through MMT and Central Bank digital currency. That's the only way they can kick the can down the road for any period of time on this, because they're just going to have to print the entitlements. And we know what's going to, and it'll have to be digital. They can't have people hoarding cash anymore. It's the only way they're going to do it. And, you know, they do, at that point, you do, they do risk having revolutionary action taken probably more on a local level in certain places. But at that point also, maybe people just won't.

because they know that this is the only thing that can keep them going. And maybe people are just so bad off at that point. They'll look at this upon this as if it is secure to everything. That's possible. I mean, you know, not to get too tinfoily, but what was COVID, but a bio weapon aimed at old people to take China's old people problem and shift that, you know, five, ten years into the future? Exactly. Right. I mean, that's what it was, was a boomer remover for China and probably with some help from the United States.

Right. Well, I mean, we shouldn't be surprised that a disease that killed, the older, the infirm, the unhealthy, what came from a country that's basically a foundational principle is from each according to their ability to each according to their need. Well, those people need a lot and have no ability to do anything. So it's like, of course. And also had a period where they stopped people from having kids. They went to like a one child policy. Right. Exactly. They dove to your point in mind dovetail.

Exactly. I'm just trying to say, like, of course it would come out of there. It's logical if you're talking about an atheistic state that has a bunch of people that have a lot of need and can't produce anything. Well, of course they're going to get rid of their, you're going to create, as you said, the. a boomer removal. But yeah, Pete, you're right, exactly. Combine the childlessness with this. Yeah, it was just a,

if anything, it was an inevitability. Yeah, the, um, Yaki, Yaki posed that when you start importing populations from other places, historically what you see is that the native

population stops having children. That there is just a slowdown. And he doesn't, He doesn't know if it's a metaphysical thing or if it's, he really can't explain why it happens, but when you look back, you see that that happens. And so what you're seeing now is you look at China. Russia is having the same problem. What country is having a baby boom?

El Salvador. Why is El Salvador having a baby boom? Okay. The third world countries that these people are coming from, they've never stopped having babies. Okay, so who's going to take over? Yep, the people that show up. No. I mean, that's the long and short of it, right?

And if you know for a fact, if you're a middle class, let's just say you're a normie American middle class person, you and your wife both work, you know, being brutally honest about it, having kids is a pain in the neck, right? They're expensive. they take all your time, you know, like it's a lot of work, having, especially, you know, more than two or three kids.

You know, having, having the 12, Eric Prince has billions of dollars so he can have nannies and cooks and all that other stuff. But if you're a normal person, right, and you and your wife are both forced to work because of the economy, having more than one or two children is very, very difficult. And unless you have, like, moral objections, like, you know, hardcore Catholics are orthodox due or whatever to like avoiding having children like it's really easy to do to avoid having children um the benefits of being married you don't lose any of those and if you just know you're going to get economically exploited all your life for retirees in florida with gold-plated pensions that your state really can't afford but they're constitutionally obligated to give them out

So your estate spending is going to go for that. And on the low end, you're, you know, going to be constantly supporting, you know, Section 8 housing and food stamps and stuff. And you get nothing unless you have some sort of religious motivation to have children. A lot of people are just going to be like, nah. I mean, I have friends who are great guys who, you know, know the score and everything. He's probably going to listen to this later. He didn't have kids for that very reason. Like, he was like, why should I support the system?

to me. That's what happened to me. I mean, and it was just that I didn't meet someone until I was 35. And when I was 35, that's when every, the prices of everything started blowing up and, you know, inflating all over the place. And I just, you know, I said, well, what am I going to do at this point? And even at 35, I was like, well, I seem to be a little bit old for this. But now it's some at this point. And it was purely, it was purely economic reasons. And, you know, I look back on it and I wish I could change it, but I can't. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, no, you shouldn't have kids. No, I, you know, I encourage people to, you know, even though I don't, you know, learn from my mistake. Well, but, you know, if it was just a mistake Pete made, that'd be one thing. But like, you have to look at systematic issues systematically, right? Like, and if normal working class people are just treated like tax cattle who get no benefit. from the state whatsoever and are constantly being sucked dry by the high low versus the middle coalition you're going to run out of middle class people

really quick right because everyone in no one in our society gets rich you know Eric Prince got rich by by basically using government money right so he Eric Prince has billions of dollars because of tax dollars Neil and Musk has billions of dollars because it's tax dollars yep Bill Gates has billions of dollars because of a tax dollars. I'm not criticizing any of them in particular. I think a lot of them deserve the money that they've got. But like, no one who has a fortune of a billion dollars hasn't gotten so without, you know, basically government cooperation. Right. Whether that's like Apple, right? Apple would have died if it weren't for the fact that Apple was in every single elementary

school in America for years, right? The Apple 2E sold tens of thousands of units so that, you know, third graders could play, you know, the original Oregon Trail. Like, that's, you know, that saved Apple. That saved Apple. Yeah, but like that, you know, that's a good, that's, that's, that's Steve Jobs getting billions of dollars from the government. And I'm not saying this was wrong, but that's what happened. So rich people in America get rich by, by government intervention and poor people

survive off of government largesse. Yeah. Beautifully stated. No bootstraps there. Yeah. And when you, there's a blogger by the name of La Grift de Leon, who was big in the 2000s, and he's the originator of what's called Smart Fraction Theory. And Zeman and John Derbyshire talked about it.

He was an HBD guy back in the day. But he uses his great analogy. He says, imagine you're a dude walking up a hill with a load on your back. And if you're a big dude who's used to carrying lots of stuff and your sack is really light and the hill is pretty flat, you can go all day. Imagine now that you're a skinny dude going up a steep hill with a huge load on your back. It's going to be really slow. And that person carrying everything forward is the fraction of a society above, I forget what the exact number was, but like 110 IQ, right? that's carrying the society forward and doing all the real in actual work,

doing all the things that make society function, like provide clean water, like provide electricity. And the load of who you're carrying and how steep it is, is how many people around you are, you know, able to also contribute. And,

you know, to get back to the Haitians thing, not one in ten of Haitians is capable of even contributing on the most basic level. we're not even talking about like oh they don't speak english or they can't read or whatever things that might be mitigated by some education we're talking about they can't do it because they lack the IQ now I would throw in there's some demons problems in there but that's me and I'm a you know no hardcore nut but like there's no there's no way for the regime for the regime for Nuremberg regime to deal with their dilemma, right? Kamala Harris knows everything we know, or someone around her does, guaranteed. So they know that the entitlement spending is out of control. They know that they can't, you know, Florida schools can't deal with the influx of Haitians.

They know all this stuff. And they just refuse to do anything about it because to admit anything, I mean, you're watching the regime destroy its legitimacy among middle-aged women just because they refuse to admit that the boys are boys and girls or girls. Yeah. I mean, the regime cannot admit that there's a difference between boys and girls. Something is basic as that. Otherwise, it loses because all the dominoes go down. And Charles, you can talk about this all day long. But, like, there's a reason the manosphere was such a path for most guys into all of this stuff, because the second you admit that there's differences in interests and aptitudes, abilities,

whatever between men and women, it naturally follows that those same things are not just confined to the sexes. Yes, you're exactly right. As a matter of fact, a matter of fact, in my first book, I have the exact line that is the Manosphere, I wrote The Manosphere Paradox. Enter the Manosphere, wishing to get girls, leave not giving a shit about getting girls. and that's what happened to a significant percentage of guys. I wouldn't posit a number,

but a very significant percentage of men. They came in, they're like, oh, hey, I want to know what's going wrong. And this kind of dovetails somewhat with your point earlier to Pete about how this isn't a P problem. This is a systemic problem,

and it needs to be acknowledged as such, which I also want to address something on that as well. But yeah, you're exactly right. A lot of guys got into that. And then they started realizing, well, you start pulling, it goes back to what I call the sweater, the thread on the sweater theory.

Once you start pulling at that, everything unravels. They started pulling it, why can't I get girls? And they end up with, so this is why we can't mass importations. And you think it's a joke, but it's not really a joke. It's exactly what you're saying. Because a regime built on lies, once you start undermining one lie, then they all start falling apart. They all just start collapsing.

The thread just completely accommodating. is undone and the sweater is no longer a sweater. It's just a mess on the floor. And to address, just to give a bit of anecdotal proof to your statement about it's a systemic problem with the fertility crisis, the gal that I wanted to marry, but she left me after I'd lost my government career. And again, not a show about me, but just to use an example. She has, I'll try and keep it very vague because I don't want to docks anybody. She has two sisters, neither of which have children. And she, the gal that left me and got married, she has one child. Last I checked. I mean, it's been a long time, but I know people that know her still. And the last I heard a few years ago

is she has one child. Now, one gal that I know personally that I still talk to, she is one of four girls, none of whom have children, none of whom. And these are all females now between the ages of 38 and 48. None of one child among all of them. Like that's not a Pete problem. That's not a Charles Spadiel problem. That is a systemic issue. When you're talking about that many women don't have one child among all of them.

Like that is unbelievable. I can't imagine there's a time in history that's ever seen numbers like that. I just can't imagine. And the bitter late millennial. or late Xer, you know, childless woman is going to go absolutely insane. Oh, absolutely. You like Xanax's the power box wine is going to make some absolutely insane,

insane political choices here in the next five to ten years. It's going to be. Yeah, it'll be like a walk in the park. Yeah, it'll be the, it'll be the rage of an empty womb. And I mean that very sincerely. It'll be, it'll be rage at, at a literal void. and I

it's horrific it's absolutely horrific yeah the fact that the assembly woman had women in politics pegged 2,500 years ago and no one seems to bother to learn the lesson yeah oh goodness

yeah man um yeah I can relate to the point about the manosphere too because I also went through that pipeline as well and still know a good deal people in that space and yeah once you were a to draw that connection with the

gynocracy and like intracial dynamics, it applies to a lot of other things from like mass migration and all of that. Once you have like a really feminized society, all sorts of like dysfunction is going to emerge downstream from that.

Yeah, exactly. All of this stuff just seems to all of these principles cross over into any subject you want. There are some basic principles and there are some basic human laws that you cannot escape. And you can apply them to everything. You can apply them to you do not want 67 IQ people flooding into your polity.

You can apply it to the relationship between men and women. I mean, all of these things, these are just basic truths that are gone, that just don't get taught anymore. And when they are taught, when somebody tries to bring them up, they're immediately shouted down. They're immediately a fascist. They're immediately this. They're immediately that. And it just goes to show you that it's, I can't say that we lost this because all of this was lost because we just moved on to something else. It was definitely done on purpose. And the only way it's going to be reversed. The only way we're going to get those,

I mean, the future doesn't have to look like the past, but the future has to have elements, has to have the truths in the past that we've always held on to, that keep us going, and create that civilizational capital that we need in order to have order. If we don't bring that back,

we're going to, if it was purposely removed, it needs to be purposely, put back in. Well stated. If it was intentionally obfuscated, then it has to be intentionally revealed or rediscovered. Yeah, very well said. Yep. Very well said. Very well said. Anyone? I think that, I think that was perfectly stated. Because as you say, it wasn't forgotten. It was intentionally obfuscated and remains intentionally obfuscated. And I think this is the infuriating thing about modernity or about what these people do now, what the people do with these concepts.

And I'm going to go, Jose may appreciate this because I'm going to kind of pull an old Manosphere line and I'm going to use it. A fellow used to write by the name of Doll Rock in the Manosphere. And he had, Oh, yeah. Yeah, and he said this and it was absolutely brilliant. And I love it.

It's like you have to understand the almost everything we see today. The overwhelming preponderance of everything we see around us today is not water finding its own level. It is a massive pumping operation to sort of draw on these specialities. This is not water finding its own level. This is trillions, literally trillions of dollars of pumping equipment that are maintaining what we see around us, for good or for ill, for better or for worse.

This is not the natural state of men and women, men and women, of man and male and female. This is not the natural state of people in their behavior. This is trillions upon trillions of dollars manufacturing what these people, what we have around us. Some of it good, a lot of it bad. And when a lot of that disappears, that's when, as you said, Pete, these fundamental laws of humanity will start reasserting themselves. And that's why the machine is so damn costly because you are trying to undo or circumvent these laws that are, as you said, Pete, inescapable. And they are inescapable.

And I'm not contradicting myself here because I'm saying that these trillion-dollar machines that they have, they don't prevent the laws. They just hold them back a bit. The instant that machine even mildly starts to break down, when the oil just slowly, starts to fade or somebody replaces it with dawn soap, then you start to see that it, it just, it breaks apart and then water finds its own level. That's why there was an old quote. I can't remember who said it originally, but somebody said, be the oil in the machine, be the sand in the machine rather than the oil. And I think when it comes to modernity, a lot of people need to do

that. They need to start being the sand in the machine rather than the oil. If that makes sense, to you gentlemen. Yeah, the more you look at when you, if you break down and start looking at problems, it's one of the reasons why I really don't concentrate on doing a lot of episodes where I'm talking about what's happening in the news. Because what you end up doing is you end up just basically reporting on it. Maybe you'll have a point about something that's happening. that somebody else isn't happening who's also reporting on it.

But it all comes down to the answer to all of it is a return to fundamentals. And that's why it just gets boring after a while. It's like, okay, well, how many times can I say this? How many times can you say the natural order of things have been co-opted? We are in this artificial world, this, where everything, thing is like this sweet and low world where you have to be sweet, but we're living the lowest possible, you know, the lowest possible civilization that we have. And, you know, it's like the concept of the longhouse. We literally everything is the long house now. It's like people, people want to,

people keep bringing up, you know, it's like you watch them like stone toss got, got, got stocks this week. And like people are, like, people are celebrating like they've destroyed his life. And I'm like, the dude made like seven figures selling NFTs a couple years ago, like made, made a couple million dollars in like the span of 24 hours. I think he'll be doing, I think he's okay. I think he's fine. But they're all celebrating this. And when you, when you watch them celebrate this, oh, we got this Nazi. And people were like putting his name in their profile. They were using it as their profile. They were using it as their profile name on X and then they were and they were suspending people for it. They were they were suspending people's accounts because you know it's like you're putting that you're doing this on

purpose and now they're crying. It's all feminine. Yeah. Right. Well, Dean knows I've been talking about this for years. The global global foundation. Go ahead. Go ahead. There's some there's some there's some I'm sorry, Dee. I'll I will let you jump in but I just want to address your couple points you raised Pete and a couple points Jose had raised to sort of. broadly, in my own way, broadly. But if you'll pardon the pun broadly, that the global feminization, you could just see it. I mean, look at our regime. It's all built on niceties, not goodness. And I keep, this is a, this is a drum I've been banging for much of my life. First off, one of the first points of feminization is you put in niceness, which, which is actually

pro-social behavior, but not necessarily good behavior. It's just a smoothing behavior. It's a diplomatic behavior. It's not actually being good to anybody. You're just not causing a problem. You're not being hostile. That's the first thing. Another point that you're seeing is projection. Remember, it's never the problem. It's never that person's issue. It's somebody else doing it. And I mean, we see it. And again, I'm not trying to turn this into a Democrat or Republican issue, but we see the Democrats do this all the time in the United States. It's always, you know, the Republicans are selling secrets, they're selling uranium to Russia. The Republicans are doing this. They're cheating in the election. And it's all the stuff the Democrats are doing. But it's, again, it's another female

behavior. It's projection. It's what I'm doing. I'm going to accuse you of doing. Those are just two of the primary ways that the system operates. It's a heavy reliance on pro-social rather than actual good. And there's also a complete reluctance for any kind of sacrifice. Because, again, in the female brain, it's all about nesting. It's all about resource hoarding. Ostensibly, or ideally, rather, it's that's to take care of one's children, one's offspring, one's family.

But that's been hijacked now to just becoming a hoarder, just becoming it's all for me, and for now for my own hedonistic pleasure. It's not actually for the benefit of anybody in the grander scheme. That's the irony of all this, is they like to engage in pro-social behavior. or rather pro-social statements, but the actual behavior is very selfish. That's why all these people, again, we use an example, all these people about climate change.

Oh, we need to do this and we need to do that. We need to give up this. We need to give up that. How many of these people are giving up their cell phone or all of these environmentally destructive things? None of them. None of them. They're not doing any of that. It's all about laws for thee and not for me, which again, is a very female way of doing things.

because whenever you tell a woman no, it's, they'll say, well, I have my reasons that I, you shouldn't, you shouldn't tell me I can't do that because I have X, I have X reason. I have Y reason. I have extenuating circumstances. But that's a very childlike logic because children will do the exact same thing. Well, it's okay if I do it. Well, why is it okay if you do it, child? Well, because I'm me. That's like, well, we could all say that. You know, Pete, why did you rob that liquor store? Well, because I'm Pete and I needed the money. It's like, well, okay, but that we could all say that, Pete. So a lot of this stuff, as you say, it is the longhouse writ large. And that's why the workplace has devolved because a lot of places, and I haven't written this one out yet, I really should sit down and write this out. But when you bring women into a space, women are naturally nesting, nesting creatures. So they'll turn wherever they are into a nest. And that's a good thing.

Don't get me wrong. The nest is very important, a place of safety. safety. Children need a peaceful, a placid place. They need security. They need shelter. They need nurturing. And that's a good thing. But you can't turn everything into a nest. The workplace is naturally a battlefield. Man only progresses through conflict. Now, it doesn't have to be a violent conflict between men, but man versus nature, man versus himself. These things build, these are how men grow. This is how things progress in the sense of technological advancement, intellectual development. Iron sharpens iron. So some places have to be a nest and some places have to be a

battlefield. But the reason everything is falling apart is once you bring women into things, then everything becomes a nest. Well, the workplace can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield. The military can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield. But now they're nests. And that's why you're seeing all of these in these institutions fail because their most basic tenant that is to be a battlefield has been usurped and now they're a nest sorry d so if you want to go ahead d that's my point well and something i learned from you charles was the the problem with um say minority populations and you can see it when you interact with the more jewish populations right is that they're very feminine in nature.

Yes. Right. Shmali Botaa, you know, sitting here saying, oh gosh, this is so terrible. Look at what Candice.

Oh, it's really disgusting that I'm promoting my daughter's sex toy company. Right? Like there's no masculine self-ownership of like, maybe this is my fault. Right. It's just constantly projecting like, what,

why are you so mean to me? What did I ever do to you? my only called for genocide and all this other stuff and I'm also promoting my daughter's sex to a company but this is so easy someone else's fault right like yes yeah like bro you're you're a disgusting sick weirdo right the idea of like my daughter's daughter's sex to a company like i i feel dirty even saying the word yeah exactly and and look at like look at inner 24 for you You know, look at inner city black culture, too. Like a lot of guys grow up, a lot of young white guys grow up and a lot of women too. They look at that and they think, oh, that's so tough. That's so masculine because,

you know, they don't take any shit, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, take a step back and look. They're all about money. They're all about clothes. They're all about dancing. It's like, that sounds like women to me. Like money. It's like, if you really take a look at it, it's all actually very feminine, not masculine. Right. There's no self-ownership, but you can't look at the Haitians and be like, hey, maybe this is your fault. Maybe you suck. Maybe you're dumb. Maybe you worship demons. Maybe you have too many kids that you can't afford. Maybe you shouldn't chop down the last tree and turn it into charcoal. Maybe you should, I don't know, not live in filth. Right. It's spiritually, it's never. It's spiritually feminine. It's all very spiritually feminine. And as I said, there is a place for the feminine. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist. Because if you eradicate the feminine, then you get, the hyper masculine, which is, you know, tyranny and just absolute brutality. But it just has to be, there just has to be a balance. And we've gone way too far in the opposite direction.

I mean, yeah, they've long-houseed Boeing. Right, exactly. All these solutions in the world that you shouldn't long-house, the people building fighter jets, I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, you know, that also goes towards. the idea that they're doing this on purpose to try to get people to fly less. I mean, I've decided about a year ago that I don't really want to fly if I don't have to anymore. You know,

and it could go towards their whole, you know, their whole climate change kind of thing. But, you know, I mean, we are dealing with a competency crisis. And I think I've been trying to express that it's actually hopeful because, you know, if you want to, if you see a competency crisis, then you know you need to get, you need to get competent people in there. So people are going to, if people present themselves as competent and can get the job done, people are going to rally behind them. You know, I also say, you know, people, I've been saying lately that, you know, everybody's like, well, you know, the J has run everything. I'm like, okay, well, I, hey, you look around, it's hard to argue when you look at the top of every pretty much industry and everything.

But everything's falling apart. There's a company crisis. I'm like, okay, well, it looks like they created a system. Their system that they created cannot operate anymore. You're going to have to step up. Somebody's going to have to step up. A group of people are going to have to step up and say, we can do this and we can do it better.

And they're just going to have to prove themselves at this point. And if people, I think people are so desperate now for somebody who can just do the job, somebody who can just get things done, that they're willing to put aside the old and usher in the new. And whatever that looks like. And I'm not even saying that that's something that I would necessarily want. And I would necessarily endorse. But if it's something that is not hostile to me and somewhat neutral at this point, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

Dee, do you recall my fix-it monologue? We've talked about it. Please share it with all those lucky to who were, unfortunately, I would not hurt it because it's perfect. Okay, to kind of riff off of your point, Pete, I've had this for years. And again, this goes back to something Jose and I were discussing earlier about the Manosphere and the pipeline there. Well, I agree with you, Pete, 100%. I think what's going to change things?

And I've said this for a long time, and I used to get laughed out of the room at the beginning. I said, what's really going to change things is when we get women on our side. And I used to get people coming at me from all sides screaming at me, oh, how can you be a Manosphere author and say that we need women? And, oh, you're a cuck. You're a simp. You're saying they need to lead us.

and like, that's doomed to fail. And I'm like, okay, guys, you're not, you're not hearing me at all. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we need to get women on our side, because the only way things are going to change is when you unleash the 15% of the population that's being held back by the 85% of the population that listens to women, that only does things to please women. Because what we need now is a bunch of women to just look at their men and that men in general, and say, fix it. And just to be true women to their very core and just be the ultimate pragmatists that they are. Remember, men are romantics pretending to be pragmatists.

Women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics. Just we need women to look at men and go fix it. I'm going to be over here making dinner. I'm going to be over here changing the baby's diaper. I'm going to be over here doing the laundry. What you've got to do to fix it? I don't want to know. I don't care to know.

That's not my issue. I'm going to keep my head in the sand, like most women do for most things that they find distasteful, and I'm going to let you be a man and go handle it. Don't come home and tell me about it. I'm not interested. But I want to be able to go to the grocery store without getting cat called. I want our daughter to be able to school without getting groped.

I want our son being able to get school without getting beat up. And I want you be able to come home from work without getting killed. That's what I want. Fix it. Fix it. And that's when things are going to change. Yeah. I agree with that too.

Yeah. And if anyone who doesn't think that that's right, just think back to COVID, okay? Would we have had the lockdowns? Would we have had the masking? Would we, any of that, if it wasn't for women? women were leading the charge on that. And unfortunately, white women were leading the charge on that. Yeah.

I mean, Orwell, in 1984, he said women, especially young women, were the most vociferous adherence to the party. I mean, Orwell wrote that forever ago. So yes. Yeah, in 1948. And moms were the ones, were the biggest ones, you know, moms for liberty, moms for, it was it was the moms seeing their kids' educations go down the toilet who, you know, radicalized the most and went hard against it, too. Who's fighting the trans thing now more than anybody? Right.

Right. Middle-aged women with children. Yeah. Moms are like the vanguard of the revolutionary classes in a lot of, like, revolutions from like the French revolution to even like the Bolshevik revolution you have, like, when the moms go out in the streets and like, either like kids, like dying because of starvation or whatever, like going through like a lot of shit. What do you think happened in 1932? some lady who was slowly watching your children starve to death.

Yes. I don't care what you got to do, Dieter. Fixed it. What do you think happened in Spain in 1936? Abuela said, Mijo, fix it. And he said, yes, abuela. Yep.

You got it. That's it. Fix it. Fix it. Yeah, biology trumps all. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were going to say something.

Jose. No, no, that's all I have to say. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, um, people are just going to have to step up. I mean, and women, yes. Women, it's, it really is amazing how at this point where it's, the energy of everything is so feminine, what, um, what Jason from the two bit podcast calls, um, um, uh, the smothering mother. I can't remember what, what it, what it, what it is. The devouring mother and the vengeful son. Yeah, the devouring mother, and that's what we've been going, what has been the predominant spirit of the age since at least World War II. And what you're starting to see now is you're starting to see the age of the vengeful son,

where the son comes in and starts fighting back against the mother. and, you know, as he, as Jason points out, the hardest part is going to be being able to try to control it. Because we know how far it can go. And, you know, we want it to go just far enough that we go, we get the change that we want, but we don't want it to go so far that we're stuck in 1789 and 1793 France. I've told people for years that I'm going to die on the left. I wouldn't be surprised if I get the same. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if I got it.

Because I'm still a Christian. Like you don't like for the for the SPLC folks, for the ADL folks who are listening to this program, you don't understand just how angry the average dude who's 19 and has no prospects is and knows what we know and knows that it could be fixed easily if he just, you know, did redacted to everyone that you care about. Yep. That's exactly right. Yep. And whether it's a Haitian dude with a machete or an MS-13 dude or an angry white dude or whatever, you keep creating these revolutionary conditions or Wymer conditions. You're going to get Wymar solutions whether you want to or not. Yep.

They're not for course of things. Like Stu Peters is going so hard in the paint, right? now. Stu Peters, right? You know, conservative. Yeah. I was on his show. I was on Stu Peter's show last Friday.

We did a segment on what the, what those men in the, what books those men in the 1930s burned. And I, I, I, I was the reasonable voice of the thing. I was the, I was the one, the centrist. I was the one pulling the converse. Yeah. I was one trying to pull him. him back and go,

I get it. Enlighten centrist. I've been there. I was there. Now I'm, you know, I've moved on. I see, I see light at the end of the tunnel. And he's at the point where now he's just stuck in the tunnel. And all he can see is all this stuff that's, you know,

that's coming in from all sides. He's, the noticing is, his noticing levels are insane right now. And I'm at the point where I'm just like, eh, well, I see the name. I see something horrific. I see the name, and I'm like, eh, what do I expect? You know, well, so, you know, we just got to... You're in a meditated state.

Yeah, yeah, we just got to come up with an alternative to all this. And that's about it. I mean, present the alternative. And I think what Charles there was talking about was good. And I will, you know, I will say, I wanted to mention that I got a letter recently from a female fan. And, you know, it's like, holy crap, I have those. a listener and she mentioned our last episode together and she wanted to thank Charles because Charles went out of his way to praise mothers and what mothers do.

Oh, well, if she's listening, I appreciate your appreciation. I do. I sincerely do because I do trying to take a very balanced view of things. I think danger lies in taking either. the long house, you know, or the tyrant, I do. So thank you. Yeah, we're at the point where it's, yeah, I, I went, I went off the rails there for about six months and I just couldn't, I mean, I was floating back and forth.

There was just so much, I was taking in too much information. And then it took basically to see, like, I think one of the things it really did, it was Matt Erickson said, start following these tech guys on Twitter. And I'm watching and I'm following these tech guys. And some of them are, you know, like pretty right wing, David Sacks, Joshua Steinman. These guys are pretty, you know, pretty hard mega down the MAGA road and, you know, retweet some, retweet some of the people on our side too, all the way over on our side too. But seeing the optimism that they have, that got really infectious.

seeing that they're just like, we don't care about it. We're trying to build. We're trying to build what comes next. And I don't know if that technology is going to be great if it's going to be something that I'm going to embrace. But hopefully it's going to be something that moves us past this obsolete system,

something that can replace something in this obsolete system. And I don't know what that is. I mean, AI is looking in, impressive. I use, I've started using AI for certain things, for certain research. There is an, I saw an AI this week that was repairing code. Hmm. Like, yeah, like repairing, actually it was floating all over Twitter. I actually repairing code. So it's like, okay, so it's, how long before it's writing code?

How long before you just get an, you get a, you get a subscription to AI and you, you're like, okay, write me an APK that I can release my RSS feed on and I'll put it on my website or I'll get it in the Google store. I probably won't get it in the Google store, but I can release it on my website and people who can just listen to my podcast directly through my web. And it just builds it for you. I mean, there are things coming down the pike that a lot of people, you know, I'm a semi-Luddite. some of it worries me, but I don't want to stand in the way of it because I actually believe that

I'd rather live in a world created by these people than the monsters than these monsters right now. I've always thought, to riff off of your point, Pete, I always thought, I believe it's the Mennonites, forgive me if I'm incorrect. Somebody wants to correct me in your audience. By all means, I'll humbly take it.

But I believe it's the Mennonites, not to be confused with the Amish. It's, they are a very, They are much like yourself in the sense, very Luddite tendencies. But what they do is they communally, the church father, their church fathers, wherever you want to put in the look at it, their faiths, followers, leaders rather, excuse me, they're church leaders. They look at it.

They look at the new technology that comes along and they say, will this benefit our community? Yes or no. And they engage with it intellectually in that sense. And then they decide what are the ramifications, the best that we can foresee. Obviously, man, this. has a limited vision, but they do the best they can. And I think that's a good way to do it. And I think that's what you're sort of doing in your own way is that whole, okay, I have my, I have my trepidation

regarding a lot of this, but perhaps it could be useful. And instead of just kind of knee-jerk, denying it, let me see if it can be used for good and let me see what the dangers are within it. And I think that's exactly the way it should be handled. Like fire, frankly. You know, we should have the same attitude toward fire fire is a very good thing can't have civilization without it but it doesn't mean you just you know light your sofa on fire and say everything's great so yeah i think that's yeah well if nobody has another subject they want to touch on uh we've been gone a little over an hour and a half we can end this uh anybody have anything else they want to pull up bring up no i'm i'm okay at the moment no it's been great to

good. Cool. All right. Um, plug away. Jose, plug what you're going to plug. Um, yeah, doing the usual of my substack, Jose Niño unfiltered, um, dropping weekly articles there and, um, getting back into doing some recordings next week now that I'm like, all settled in my new place. Um, yeah, you can still follow me on X at Jose Alinino. Yeah, go to Jose's substack and episode 107 of his podcast has this dark and lightning guy. It was a pretty good one. Oh, yeah. He's insufferable.

I got to listen to that guy all the time already anyway with the phone. Oh, thank you very much for having me. There's a polite, centrist conversation there. Yeah. Yes. What do you have to plug D? Just my telegram channel. for those of you who are listening and go um please either download the app directly from if you've got

google or um are able to uh use the browser bypass for apple users but but uh i've been censored and i know that folks have asked like hey i tried to click on the link and can't well it's because um i said some naughty words one time and so google and its infinite wisdom decided that um you don't deserve or you can't hear what i think because uh i was i was mean All right, I'll make sure to link to that. And yeah, what do you say in is if you get the telegram app, get it off their website. Don't get it out of the stores. The stores, they censor a lot of things.

I'll see stuff. Stuff will be shared in my chat that on one of my devices, I have it downloaded from the store. I won't be able to read it. So, yeah, we can go get it off of their website. And Charles, do you have anything? If anybody's interested, I still do have two books on Amazon. both are, I need to clean them up and do second editions, but I have whiskey and ashes and inebriates, vowels, maxims, and observations. And then I have another book by, under my name, Charles Padill, and that is the holistic guide to suicide.

It's all about coping with depression and suicidal ideation, trying to get yourself out of a bad situation. So if any of those, either of those sound appealing to you, I humbly ask you pick them up from Amazon. Thank you. All right, gentlemen, until the next time. And, you know, let's plan on it like a, like a month from now. I think, I think if we plan that far in advance, we should be able to do something, right? Sounds good. Sounds good. All right, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you, Pete. Thank you for having me, Pete. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show. You are here with the Thought Crime Syndicate. What's up, guys? How are you? Hey, Pete. Very well. Thank you. How about yourself?

good Charles D.E. I'm doing well, man. Thank you for having me. Jose. I'm doing fantastic, though, and I'm ready to riff off. Yeah, I mean, we already warmed up with, we had an appetizer to start us going and get the blood flowing. So I read this with my buddy Aaron, and I think we did a good job looking at this paper. this article that Loren Gignor wrote, but I wanted to come back to it because we're six months into this, quote-unquote, war, and things just escalate and escalate. You have Douglas McGregor who finally on Twitter yesterday said the word Jewish,

said that this whole thing is about Jewish supremacy. Um, he's been dancing around it for a long time. Apparently on Judge Knapp's show, he's been, he's actually been saying it a lot recently, but I haven't gotten a chance. Judge Knapp puts out like five episodes and, uh, puts out like five episodes a day. Yeah, he's got crazy volume. Yeah. I need to check that stuff out. And, but yeah, so I wanted to go back to this Israel, the psychopathic nation by Leringenio and, um, start reading it. And, um, start reading it. allow us to comment. So you can stop at any time, and I'm sure there'll be a lot of stoppages, because, you know, this is basically looking at the reasoning and the thought behind Jewish

leaders and philosophers through the years in their own words. So, yeah, I'll start, if you guys are okay with it, I'll start reading, and then we can go from there. Yeah, go right ahead. All right. Israel is the psychopathic nation by Loring and you. Quoting, first thing, starts off with a quote, Judeophobia is a psychosis. As a psychosis, it is hereditary and as a disease transmitted for 2,000 years. It's incurable. So, okay, let's start off with this. Leo Pinsker wrote this in auto-imantipation 1882. He is a founding Zionist thinker. If it is incurable, if it is incurable, curable. What are the implications of it being incurable? Well, that means it's terminal. I mean, that means there's no way for the patient to be saved from whatever fate that the disease brings upon him. Yeah. What do you think, Jose? I just, yeah, like the way, that's just like it just like it just shows you the world view of them. They just see it as all as amalekites that ultimately have to be put down in some type of way.

Like, we're all sick to them. Yeah. All right. I'm going to start. reading. Stop any time. Jewishness is a notoriously ambivalent notion. On the one hand, Judaism is religion. On the other, Jews are a people, an ethnic group or race. I know that there's arguments about that. We'll just gloss over it. Okay. We'll just go past it. It all depends on the circumstances. But in both cases, Jewishness may legitimately be subjected to psychological analysis. If Judaism is a religion, we may turn to Freud, who addressed the relationship between religion and neurosis in three books, Totem and Taboo, Civilization and His Discontents, and the Future of an Illusion,

in which he calls religion, referring mainly to Catholicism, a universal, obsessional neurosis of humanity. What was Freud's background? Mm-hmm. Yes. I believe he was amongst the tribe, as they say. Okay. If, conversely, the Jews are a people, then we can base our analysis on common sense, which admits that every people has a national character forged by history, or a collective memory, which is to say its own representation of its history.

Concerning the character of the Jewish nation, there is no shortage of opinions from Jewish intellectuals. The hypothesis presented in this paper can be summarized as follows. The Jewish nation as a state, but also as an organized world, community acts collectively towards other nations and other human communities in the way a psychopath acts towards his fellow man. I will first describe psychopathy as a cognitive and behavioral structure and show how the ideology and methods of the chosen people are related to it. Pete, may I jump in here just address a couple of points very briefly? Okay, first off, I'd like to step back to the comment about Judaophobia being an incurable illness.

if you're part of a nation that looks at other peoples as the next rung down from you, I might not go so far as to say animals, but we'll just use that as an example. If you're part of a nation that looks to you and your people as animals, what do most humans throughout history do with sick animals? What do they do with them? They put them down. Right, exactly. Now, the one thing I want to keep in mind by using this example is when people put down sick animals, how do they justify that?

They say it's for its own good, correct? Putting it out of its own misery. Right. Now, I want that to be firmly in the mind of the audience as we progress further through this article. It may seem unrelated at this point, or it may seem like I'm being a bit hyperbolic. Those of us that have read this, we'll see why I'm setting the stage now for that. The other point I'd like to raise very quickly is if we look at the Jews as a nation, as a collective, I want to be clear about this.

I can declare war on, let's say, Germany. That doesn't mean I hate every single German. That just means their nation is currently operating in opposition. to my nation, or if we want to say Iran, or if we want to say Russia or China, that's fine. I can be at war with those countries without hating every single person that is part of that nation. Do I make myself clear with this statement? Yes. I understand exactly what you're saying.

Okay. I just want to be clear about that. Okay, go ahead. I would also add that there's another way that people deal with terminal diseases. they seek to make the patient as comfortable as possible. Yeah, palliative. As a date as possible as basically drugging them to the point where, you know, when my mother was dying of cancer and she was in brain cancer and she was in great pain,

methadone was the treatment. I lost my mother the exact same way, Pete. So, yes, the term is palliative. That's exactly, yes. That's what you're described. Yes, sir. Yes, it is. All right. I'm going to go on then. Please. It goes without saying that I do not intend to imply that the Jews are psychopaths, but instead that they are the first victims of a mental straitjacket imposed by their elites, who, through veritable intellectual terrorism, make of them to the extent that they comply, the instruments of the collective psychopathy of Israel. What is a psychopath? Psychopathy is a syndrome of traits classified among the personality disorders. Canadian psychiatrist Robert Hare, in the wake of Hervey Cleckley's The Mask of Sanity, 1941, has defined its diagnostic criteria on the basis of a cognitive model that is now widely accepted, though some behaviorally oriented psychiatrists prefer the term sociopathy.

In an effort to get everyone to agree, the diagnostic and statistical manual on mental disorders, the American Psychiatric Bible, suggested antisocial personality disorder, but the term psychopathy is still in use. The most striking trait of the psychopath are lack of empathy and conscience. Other traits are common to narcissism. Psychopaths have a grand vision of their own importance. In their mind, everything is owed to them because they are exceptional. They are never wrong and failures are always the fault of others. They often show megalomania, but some learn to hide their arrogance under false modesty. If the psychopath pretends to rise to the universal level, it is because he confuses it with his personal interests and the truth with his own opinions.

However, the psychopath is distinguished from the simple narcissist by his appetite for power, which makes him much more destructive. Moreover, his... Can you briefly? Sure. Go ahead. Okay. When we're talking, I want to step back just very briefly. I want to accent. He confuses it with his personal interest and the truth with his own opinions. I want to repeat that. He confuses the truth with his own opinions. That is narcissistic and solipsistic to a tremendous level. I mean, just an unbelievable level. Now, if you confuse legitimately, the truth, with your own opinions, and you run most of the information highways in your country,

in your society, what have you, whatever term we want to use, collective. What is going to happen there? What is going to happen there? It's going to be absolutely devastating for everybody that isn't in lockstep with you, and everything will just seem absolutely topsy terms. to anybody that has an actually rational point of view, and actually sees a duck as a duck, a rabbit as a rabbit, a tree as a tree. It's just going to be absolutely catastrophic.

There's no other way to it. There's no one that would have a way to determine the truth unless they were literal mind readers for the person who is controlling the information. Does that make sense to you? No, I'm putting it. Yes. I will say that, um, I think Owen Benjamin did a really good job of breaking this down one day where he mentioned that these are people who are raised to believe that they're special and that they're chosen, but they're also a people who are raised to believe that everybody wants to kill them and everybody wants to hurt them.

He said, and when you combine those two in, when you combine those two things together, you're creating a form of narcissism. that you've never seen in history before. Excellently stated. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I said this last time I read this, but I have a friend who, you know, he told me. He told me that he was raised to believe that because he's Jewish, he was to be, you know, that everybody was out to get him and everybody wanted to kill him.

And then his mother invited a bunch of people. His mother was a teacher invited a bunch of people from his class to his bat mitzvah. And he's like, why are you doing this to me, Mom? These people want to kill me. We don't even talk about the fact that we're Jewish. And think about that. How old is he at this point? 12, 13 years old?

And he's expressing these feelings. Good grief. Yeah. They talk about it more in the article, but I just want to touch on it very, very briefly. Just, I mean, that is a person who is being victimized into being. It's like a lot of forms of abuse. The abused will eventually become the abuser due to that abuse. Like, you have to actually look at pity on that person.

Like that, he didn't choose to be raised that way. He didn't choose that course. What child would choose to see the world? that way. That was imposed upon him. Now you start to see where a lot of the rest of the article makes sense. That's an excellent anecdote, an excellent anecdote. All right, let me continue here. Moreover, his capacity for harm is not inhibited by any scruples or remorse. He is incapable of feeling guilt. Although he imagines himself a hero and in some cases looks like a hero, the psychopath is, on the human spectrum, the polar opposite of the hero who sacrifices him for,

for his community. He will not hesitate to sacrifice to people around him. When he knows he is lost, he consoles himself by causing as many people as possible to fall. Basically, the psychopath perceives others as objects. He has a mechanical view of people and human relationships, and in some way of himself as well. Although devoid of conscience, he often has a keen perception of the law, which he, as a mechanic of the social engine, overestimates. He has not internalized moral law, and in this sense is not socialized, but he has mastered the rules of the game and cheats without qualms if he can. It's very interesting that he says that.

Couldn't that just like, doesn't it act just perfectly describe Ben Shapiro? Yeah. Thinking the same thing. Yes, I was thinking the same thing when I read that. Well, said, D. Yes. Yeah, he says that he is in no sense. in this sense is not socialized. When I think of socialization, I think of

Ted Kaczynski. We talked about overssocialization. People who become so dependent on the state and see the state as like God and everything. And they don't. They see the state as only something that they can use. Right. It's just another tool in their box for manipulation, and attainment power, right?

It has absolutely no, right. There has no, what goes back to the truth, there is no objectivity to any of it. It all results to, it's wrapped up in this narcissistic, solipsistic attitude. There is no, no objectivity. It's just me against the world and the world against me. That's it. For the same reason, the psychopath almost always develops an immoderate taste for money. He idealizes it as the epitome of power, the very essence.

of the social. He thinks that people can be bought and sold like things and life often proves him right. Well, one of the things that really terrified me about that particular statement, I have it highlighted here on my copy, people can be bought and sold like things, is when you are controlling the message and you can make people devalue themselves or outright loathe themselves in the case of the trans movement, to me, that's, then you are by immiseration, by the emiseration of others, you are causing them to commodify themselves because they have no other option, thereby reinforcing your own sociopathic worldview and continuing the cycle. That's what terrifies me about that statement, is when you combine the power

with that attitude, it becomes a self-perpetuating machine. And it just, that's what I find absolutely terrifying about that. The diagnostic criteria for psychopathy also includes pathological lying, deception, cunning, and manipulative behavior. The psychopath feels only very superficial emotions and has no real feelings for anyone, but he has developed a great ability to deceive. He can be charming to the point of. being charismatic.

He typically shows highly developed verbal intelligence and lies with disconcerting a plum. He is unable to empathize, but learns to simulate it, sometimes with a tendency to histrionics, Latin histrio, theater actor. The psychoanalyst Helene Deutsch makes this trait the mark of as-if personalities endowed with purely memetic pseudo-emotions devoid of inner experience. a little like an actor with a good technique but not animated by actual life. But the psychopath is more than... That's a really astute observation because if you look at like marketing, for example,

which is a field that has a lot of disproportionate Jewish representation, you see this a lot with, especially like Israeli Jews, with how they try to market Israel to Westerners. On one hand, you have, like, Likudniks that will pal around with Christians and try to sell Israel as, like, an ally to Christians. But that's really, like a split, like a split test. They're just trying to see what works like best

because I think, like, behind the scenes, these guys are just, like, talking smack about Gentiles and whatnot. And in like a moment of crisis, that's when you start seeing these Lakutenics types start trash talking Westerners, like right now and everything. And then you have like another faction of Israelis that will try to like sell Israel as like a liberal democracy friendly to LGBT and all this stuff. And it is all part of an act because they they try to keep a good image among the West. but when you actually look at them in like, like say put a few drinks in them and behind closed doors, they just start

behaving like total maniacs, like Fno-narcistic maniacs that could care could not care less, but wasn't there's anything that. Give me a perfect example of that. So the Salem Radio Network. Hugh Hewitt, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager, Sebastian Gorka, Charlie Kirk,

Eric Mataxis. some black guy who used to be Tatum. The person who really runs that program or runs that is Dennis Prager. And I sent it to Pete. Maybe you could like, but Dennis Prager straight up admitted, right? Other than Nazism, all the isms choose feminism, communism, communism. You know, so we have people, right, Dennis Prager hates Jesus Christ. he'll say, oh, I love wasp people.

Okay, well, then let wasp people advocate for themselves as wasp people, Dennis. Instead of saying, oh, well, if you do that, that's Nazis. Right. That's Naziism, if you do that. If you say that as a white person in America, I think white people, that's, if you as a white person in America think that white people deserve something in America, that's, that's Nazis, that's slavery, that's, you know, because you get that, right? Trust me, I read Hebrew and teach Torah.

So I am an expert on your religion, right? Right. I've never, I've never in a million years told Buddhists. Like, you know, this is what you need to be, how you need to be a Buddhist, right? I read, I read your book once, so I know more about being Buddhist than you do. I know more about her, right? Yeah, exactly. So here's this guy, right, whose job it is in the Salem radio network,

goes after specifically like religious Christians who are you know like conservative talk radio the people who thought rush should be more religious basically um and you know i i watched Andrew claven last night so you folks didn't have to and um taking one for the team taking one for the team and you know he talked about uh this this recent Tucker interview right and there was there was no well i could see how people would feel that way, but here's why it's wrong. It was just, this is wrong. It was just this, it was straight out of this book. And I, as I was listening, I was like, this, this French dude doesn't miss because it was like word for word, what was happening? Like, oh, narcissism,

inability to see another another else's point. Just, and once you understand this and you see it everywhere, right? Yeah. Then a lot of things become clear. And why these people are losing their mind so much? And I was just literally just on another program. The Blaze, Glenn Beck's outfit, you know, Lauren Chen is out there saying, you know, hosting Nick Fuentes and forcing Jeremy Boring, the Daily Wire guy, to talk to Nick Fuentes. And I might have my differences with Nick, but Nick's way more on my side than

these other people. But the delta between what the world is actually doing and what the establishment conservative media are saying is growing so vast that normal people are unable to take a cognitive dissonance. You've got, you know,

working class dudes who just are loggers in their truck, you know, screaming about on TikTok, screaming about like, why does Israel get all this money and I got to drive five hours to work every day? Right. Exactly. And well, the answer is is Jewish power. But this level of narcissism is why they've been doing this for and why they're losing their minds. Because they know they're losing their grasp.

You know, Ben Shapiro lost his mind because he knows that he can't. I put it out on telegram. I think I told you guys like fundamentally, right? These people destroyed America. They destroyed Europe. They destroyed Canada. And then they expected their little colonial project to still be strong. even though like all the supports were undermined and rotted and rested out.

Yeah, a couple points to what you're saying, Dee. It's interesting you even bring up loggers because I have a friend that actually used to run a logging company in Canada. And one of the things he says, and he's been saying this for at least five years, probably more, but I'll say at least five. He's been saying what you're saying for at least five years. And that is he was absolutely just completely befuddled by the fact that, Israel undermined the United States as much as it did and then expected it to defend the state and nation of Israel. It just boggles his mind. As a matter of fact, I think, and he'll forgive me, he'll probably end up listening to this, but I might mildly misquote him, but I guarantee you not by much.

He's like, if Israel really was smart about what they wanted to do, they would have made sure that America stayed a bunch of six foot three. blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guys, and then use them to just be their strong arm in the rest of the world. But they didn't. They didn't. They dissolved it like an acid. And now they're terrified that they have nobody to protect them on the world stage. And that's exactly what you're saying now. And it's 100% true.

It's a hundred percent true. The gallum is turning against them. Yeah, that's very true. But I would say, in a way, Jose, it's, I'm going to go, I'm going to go with the yes and. I think in a way it's that and it's even worse. It's not only is the gallum turning against them, they, it can't even, it's not even powerful enough to defend them if it, if it wanted to, like even if they could regain control of it somehow, which we know they're not, but even if they could, it couldn't defend them anyway.

It wouldn't do any good anyway. It's enough to beat them up, but it's not enough to beat up most of their opponents or any of their opponents. And one other thing I want to throw credit where it's due when they talk about the histrionics being related to theater actor. My first thought in my head was I believe it's Aaron McIntyre that coined the phrase, the theater kids are at it again. And it's like, you know, by the theater kids. I was like, I have to, I have mixed feelings on Aaron McIntyre. I think he's a good guy, but he's bad for him. my hypertension. Like every time I read

him, I'm like, I just want to get rope and go out and redact. So it's just like yeah, it's bad for my hypertension. But other than that, I really like them. So yeah, I just had to give credit where it's due to R. and McIntyre. First thing I thought was the theater kid administration. I thought that was bang on the money.

So, last point I want to raise, though, in regard to the, they can be charming to the point of charismatic. Therein lies the rub is that It's not true charisma is being able to empathize with people and being able to make them feel like, frankly, like they're a human being. I mean, if you go out to eat, if you talk to people, stuff like that, the best way to just get them on your side. And it's not, it's not, I guess it is manipulation, but it's not meant with any kind of malfeasance or maliciousness. I always just try and let them know that I see them as a human being.

Sure, they may be my waiter. they may be the person that's answering at the help desk, but I try and make them feel like they're a human being. Like, yes, I understand this is your job. Yes, you have certain requirements, but that doesn't permit me to abuse you. I'm allowed to complain, but I'm not allowed to abuse you. Like, first thing I say when I'm on the phone with somebody is, look, we'll say D.

Look, Dee, I understand you just answer the phones here at Bank of America. You don't control any of it, but I got to tell you, I'm really upset. my account problem here. Could you please help me out? Could you please do anything you could? I'd really appreciate it. And that's, and that's the difference. Right. And you know what guys, you know what? To a man or woman, everybody has said to me, you would be amazed how fast they try and help me. Just with that little phrase, hey, look, I know you don't run it. I know you're just answering the phone, but I'm just all tied up in knots here. I'm super upset. Can you please help me out? But you were going to say to you, God. Well, but, you know, who doesn't do that?

Right. Yes. Psychos and Jews, right? Like, when's the last time Jews went, you know what? 150,000 Americans died saving us from the Nazis. And if it hadn't been for the tens of thousands of planes and tanks and trucks and millions of gallons of fuel and everything that you'd sent to the Soviets, the Soviets would have lost their side of the war. uh thank you what can we do to make america better right there's there's no gratitude whatsoever none it instantly right like i brought this up before but but just you know okay so nineteen forty six right war ends eight years later eight years later who's behind brown v board well who's behind shelley v kramer right yeah the two years after that yeah i was just good to say right Right. That's what I mean. Like, too, like, like, the authoritarian person, they started writing the authoritarian personality in

1948. Right. Yeah. Like, like, like, there are literally still American troops in Europe, putting the place back together and, and keeping a lid on the Germans in 1948. The last, like, they still didn't go home, right? But, like, the demobilization for the war isn't even complete. And they're already destroying America.

Right. Right. Well, I mean, I don't want to go through far down this path because this is something Pete and I discussed her we can discuss another time. But that's the curse of Eve. I mean, they're always going to rebel, but they're always going to be subject to somebody else. That's the bargain they made.

That's right. Anyway, please, Pete, continue. Sure. All right. But the psychopath is more than that. He is a manipulator. It is through his extraordinary ability to feign, trick, trap,

and capture that the psychopath draws his power. Although he himself is immunized against guilt, he becomes a master in the art of using guilt to dominate others. In any situation, the psychopath projects a persona, which can vary according to circumstances. The opinion he wears in public are all disguises that he tailors to his own advantage. However, lying is so deeply embedded in his nature that the question of his sincerity is almost irrelevant. The psychopath can beat a lie to his sector. The truth has no value in his eyes.

merges with it with the version of events that suits him. I'm sorry, this is, this is again what makes them dangerous. And I've tried to point this, having been in law enforcement for many years and in investigations for even longer, this is the dangerous thing. Everybody thinks, oh, lie detector, all that we can catch somebody with a lie detector.

It's like, no, if I believe this steps back to the earlier point. If I believe the truth is whatever I say it is, then the lie detector doesn't work. Because what a lie detector does, and I coined this phrase and everybody stole it from me at my job in immigration, something I didn't mention on our solo talk, Pete, on our dialogue between one another. The phrase I coined was stress indicative nonverbal communication. That's what gives somebody away when they're lying. That's the phrase I coined and I put it in all my memos.

Subject exhibited stress indicative, nonverbal communication. Everybody stole that phrase. Because what it is is it's your own conscience telling you that you're lying. And then that's giving you away. And this is why you can't catch these people because their opinions are the truth. They have no guilt. Therefore, they have no stress. Therefore, they have no stress indicative behavior.

Therefore, they are never, quote unquote, lying. That's why these people are so incredibly dangerous because they are. without a conscience, and anyone will tell you any honest person in the law enforcement field, which I admit they are growing fewer and fewer every day. But any person that's honest in the law enforcement field will tell you 95% of people that we catch and put away, give themselves away in one way, form, shape, or another. And when you have people like this, they are almost uncatchable. And even if you do catch them, they are almost impassable. And even if you do catch them, they are almost impossible to break.

And I'm going to go on. The psychopath is unable to put himself in the place of others and thus to view himself critically. Confident in any circumstance of being right and innocent and superior, he considers the resentment of his victims as irrational and pointless. Although those close to the psychopath, at least those who learn the hard way his true nature, can judge him raving mad.

The psychopath is not sick because he does. does not suffer. He is innocent of neurosis and never request psychiatric care, except as a strategic calculation. He is not psychotic and cannot be regarded as maladapted to social life. On the contrary, he is, in a certain sense, over-adjusted. That is why the real mystery from a Darwinian point of view is not the existence of psychopaths, but they're low proportion in the population. Next section is Jewishness and selective empathy. The most optimistic low-end estimate of the proportion of psychopaths in the Western population is 1%. This 1% should not be confused with the famous 1% who owns half the world's wealth,

but a study of senior executives of large companies published under the title, Snakes and Suites, shows that psychopathic traits are widespread among them. This is not surprising. Modern society values psychopathic traits and favors the upward mobility of psychopaths. The fact that Jews today are disproportionately represented among the elite, they form half of the billionaires in the United States while representing only 2.4% of the population does not allow us to conclude that psychopathy is more prevalent among the chosen people. In a way, I can one more time, please?

When we talk about here that the upwards mobility is valued, society values psychopathic traits and favors the upper mobility of psychopaths. This steps back to something we had discussed in our dialogue, and that is the fact that it's a pro-social behavior, but it is an anti-sociital behavior at its heart. It's a pro-social in the fact that the psychopath is being nice, he's being friendly, and he is smoothing the gears of social interaction.

He is not, however, doing anything. anything but destroying the society that it's meant to keep moving. That's a classic con man game when you think about it. Yeah, it's a great point. Yeah, because like the, yeah, the, the, the, a successful con. Um, is it something that like is just like malicious off the jump. It seems like innocuous. It comes, oh, the guy will come off as innocuous and friendly at first, but then like,

once the con actually goes down. It's going to be too late when you realize that, oh, shit, you got screwed. But, yeah, that's actually, like, it's like in the short term, it looks pro-social, but in the long term, it's actually very noxious on a societal level. And that's how this organized jury operates, it ultimately. All right. I'm going to continue. In a way, quite the opposite is.

the case. Jews demonstrate among themselves an extraordinary capacity for empathy, or at least familiarity that breeds exceptional solidarity to the point of self-sacrifice. But the selective nature of this empathy suggests that it is addressed less to the humanity of others than to their Jewishness. In Nomads, essay on the Jewish Soul, 1929, we learn what transpires when two Jews meet. Quoting, We have never met before. But I I instantly know him. One look, one phrase, and I know where he grew up, how he grew up, where he got his drive, and his sense of humor. He is New York. He is Jewish. He looks like my Uncle Louis. His voice is my Uncle Sam. I feel we've been together at countless weddings,

bat mitzvahs, and funerals. I know his genetic structure. I'm certain that within the last 500 years, perhaps even more recently, we shared the same ancestor. This is a comment from Robert Reich, Secretary of Labor, about his meeting with Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Council on the Federal Reserve, two very influential Americans about whom we would like to believe that such familiarity does not affect their judgment of the nation's interests. Who is Alan Greenspan of a disciple of? Einrand. Yep.

Part of her inner circle. Kodmi Isaac Cohn described Judaism as, quote, the spiritualized deification of the race. Thus, the definity in Judaism is contained in the exultation of the entity represented by the race. It is as if the Jews felt united by a collective or ethnic soul, which occupies more or less of their individual soul according to individuals and circumstances. This is indeed how many Jews recall their Jewishness. Being Jewish to me, says Alan Finkelcrow, is to feel involved, concerned, sometimes compromised by what other Jews do. It's a feeling of belonging, affiliation, and in this affiliation, there is, for example,

the tortured link to Israel. Every Jew experiences himself as part and parcel of the chosen people. Everything he is doing reflects on the community. When a Jew is a victim, all Jewish people are victimized. By contrast, if he is a torturer, his Jewishness is repressed because it would implicate the whole people in his guilt. Jewishness is in some sense a latent sentiment capable of being activated by the slightest alarm. The feeling of Jewishness remains in me something dark, abysmal, and above all, unstable. Both powerful and labile, easily altered.

Nothing is as important to me as my Jewishness, which, however, in many respects, has so little importance in my life. writes Jacques Derrida. I just want to say something very quickly to this, Pete. I want to go over that quote again. The feeling of Jewishness remains in me something dark, abyssal, and above all, unstable. Again, this goes back to what I've been saying for many years to D, and what I discussed with you in our dialogue recently on bordering in insanity. And that is, this is a very feminine thing.

Keep in mind in the yin yang symbol, the white and the black turning. The black is actually the feminine energy. And that is the unstable change. Think of this. The feminine is biologically at its very core, literally unstable with menstruation. Like this is all a very feminine energy. So I just want to point that out. Growing up in New York as I did and knowing being around a lot,

of Jews. I can say when he says when a Jew is a victim, all people are victimized. By contrast, if he is a torture, I used to hear the tales of Sandy Kofax, the pitcher for the Brooklyn Dodgers, that he was such a credit to Jews everywhere that he didn't pitch on the Sabbath and just how remarkable he was. But what about Levit de Beria? Yeah. No one ever says that about Yagoda. You know, when you bring up, when you bring up your goda, well, it's not that he was, that has nothing to do it is the fact that he's probably responsible for 20 million deaths. That has nothing to do with his Jewishness. Yeah, Marx is Jewish. You know, it's, it's this, you know, if it were for double standards, Jews that have no standards at all.

And I think I brought this up, but I know what they brought it, a private, but you know when I say I want the same thing that Israel wants I want smart kids to get free higher education I want the not as smart kids to get a good solid Votech education at the expense of the state I want a wall one an ethno state I want it shouldn't cost you $100,000 if you you know fall and break your arm your basic help here should be basically covered uh jews will call me a fascist

and then I'm like well that's just what you have in Israel and then the that's different why how and they're literally incapable of seeing from someone else's perspective and you can't live with those people

right could you imagine being married to a woman who literally never saw your point of view. Could you imagine sharing a house with someone like that? It drives people insane. So why should I have to share a country with people who literally can never see if I have a point or not? Excellent point. Yeah, yeah, that's an excellent point.

How, how are you supposed to live in peace with people who literally cannot see if you have a point? I could be completely crazy, but they can never, never acknowledge that someone else has interests. And that's the same, to your point, Charles, about feminism or femininity, that's the problem with the, with, you know, the black community, too, is the solipsism of, you know, my baby didn't do nothing, right? Yeah, again, like, this is all coming back to that, that very feminine energy.

Right. It's not me. And, I mean, if it is me, it's different when I do it. I mean, I still remember, and I'll tell this story very, very briefly, just because it's extremely pertinent. Dee, you've already heard this, but so please bear with me. A young woman I was with a while back, she's a great gal, but it didn't work out. But anyway, but we were driving to pick up her car because her car had gotten towed because she parked in a handicap spot. And she was regaling me on the way to pick it up.

I was driving her there. She's regaling me about how she's a Democratic socialist and it. things will be better and different when we have more laws that, that keep people in line. And I looked at it and I said, you mean laws like parking, like against people parking in a handicapped spot? Like those kind of laws?

They'll make society better. And she was just floored. And they said, well, this is different. Like my situation's different. I'm like, no, it's not different. It's not different at all. There was a rule and you broke it. Now you're paying penalty.

Why do you get a special dispensation? Why is it different for you? I don't think she could say it. And that's the same thing here. Like you were saying, with the black community, he didn't do anything. Because, again, it's at its core. It's a very feminine. It's a very childlike argument.

We can also. Right. And why this is a Jewish psychopath thing is, Shelly v. Kramer, that was the law that let us live separately, destroyed by Jews. Brown be bored, the one that let us keep our children safe, destroyed by Jews.

The, you know, I mean, just go back to our race war in high school series. Hart Cellar Act. Jews. Yeah, right. Like, so even when, right, there's other populations that don't get along with them, right? How many Jews have been beaten up by blacks in New York or, or, you know, Puerto Rican

gangsters or whatever? Right. Hundreds. Hundreds. But because they don't care, because it'll hurt the white people more. Because it'll undermine white society more and they can just turtle up. in their ethnic enclaves, right? All I want is an ethnic enclave for me and mine.

I'd love to live in like a Hasidic, like a Hasidic neighborhood type situation with a bunch of white Catholics. Oh, wait, we had that. It was called Brooklyn. Right. I was going to say, if you were Irish, it would be Philadelphia. Yep, thank you, Pete. You have sections of Philadelphia, yeah.

Right, we had that, and then it was destroyed. By whom? right so there's no living with these people because they don't have any empathy whatsoever for anybody all right i'm going to go on jewish ethnocentrism in contrast to the empathy it shows for itself the jewish community as a whole to the extent it submits to its representative elites tends to behave towards the mass of gentiles in a psychopathic rather than empathic manner this is why a goy observer verner sombart despite his reputation as a Semedophile that went away after World War I, highlights features of Jewish collective psychology that are similar to psychopathic tendencies,

including a temperament toward a coldly utilitarian and calculating alongside a propensity to mimicry combined with a mechanical conception of human relations. the founder of sociology Emile Durkheim, 1858 to 1917, very critical of his Jewish community, noticed among Jewish intellectuals a pragmatic and self-interested notion of truth, which can be compared with that of the psychopath.

Excuse me, also with that of a woman, pragmatic and self-interested notion of truth. That's also a very feminine behavior. Please continue. Sure. Quote, the Jew seeks to learn not in order to replace his collective prejudices by prejudices by reflective thought, but merely to be better armed for the struggle. He superimposes this intellectual life upon his habitual routine with no effect of the former

upon the latter. End quote. Many Jewish historians, for example, seem to value history less as a pursuit of truth than as a means of power. The hypothesis of a form of collective psychopathy with narcissistic tendencies makes it possible to deconstruct the universalism in which Judaism is draped. At the first level, Jewish universalism is a fable intended to obfuscate reality and confuse the goy. But it is not only this, as it also appears in the literature internal to the Jewish community, where it amounts to an expression of limitless ethnic narcissism.

Let's start getting some quotes here. The Jewish people are, quote, the seed that is germinating the humanity of the future, Jacob Kaplan, Chief Rabbi of France. Quote, the living ladder that meets the sky, Emmanuel Levinus. Quote, Israel equals humanity, Levineus. Quote, the Jew is closer to human beings.

than any other, so that, quote, the enemy of the Jews is the enemy of humanity, and therefore killing Jews is murdering all mankind, Eli Weissel. Worse, quote, hitting a Jew is hitting God himself, quote, end quote, according to Cardinal Aaron Jean-Marie Lestiger, taken almost verbatim from the Talmud,

Sanhedron 58B, quoting, hitting a Jew is like slapping the face of God himself. This is why the strange notion of crimes against humanity was created specifically in 1945 at the Nuremberg trials to describe the massacre of Jews, while the term genocide was coined for the same reason by Raphael Lempkin in 1944. These terms have since been galvanized to other victims of history. These, excuse me, these terms have since been generalized, to other victims of history, the copyrighted term Holocaust was coined, hard to beat.

The equation between Jewishness and humanity, which is the height of ethnocentrism, is the real meaning of Judaism's claim to embody humanism. Though Israelis are, quote, the most separatist people in the world, end quote, according to Nahum Goldman, former president of the world Jewish organization and founder of the World Jewish Congress, he adds, quote, the Israelis have the great weakness of thinking that the whole world revolves around them. End quote. So there is not necessary a contradiction in their mind between universalist discourse and the practice of tribalism.

If the Jew is the essence of humanity, what is good for the Jews is good for humanity on principle. Well, again, that goes back to what I, this is what I was setting the stage for earlier, Pete, regarding. If everybody else is below, if everybody else is below you and possibly at the level of animals and they have an incurable illness, what do you do for their own good? Right. Yeah. So there's a popular YouTuber, what if alt-hist guy. And I just found something on his Twitter. And he said the following, quote, I legit led the Jews, but if you look at the philosophers pushing atheist materialists and postmodern cultural relativism, it's all Jews.

Jared Diamond, Stephen Pinker, Sigmund Freud, Marx, Boaz, Marcusa, Frankfurt School, you all know Verrari, Sam Harris. Okay, but this is what they do. They say, you can't believe in God.

We can't, but you can't. We get an ethnic state, but you don't. We get to have normal, you know, we get to have strong marriages, you don't. We get to have state support for our families, but you don't.

We get to have state support for our families, but you don't. We get to have. have a sound economic policy, but you don't. We get subsidies, but you don't. And then when people notice that all the people pushing the stuff that destroys your country, Marcuse, Frankfurt School, France Boas, right, these are liars. Sick, evil liars. I mean, how, Freud, how freaking sick and weird do you have to be to think?

that every dude wants to screw his own mother. What's wrong with you? Instead of like, oh, this guy's got something valuable to say. Why did no one just take a step back and go, dude, what's your problem? Like, everyone wants to screw their own mother? Really? That's some sick shit, man. Like, I, I, the inability to be honest and reflect, you know, I'm not going to defend people that share my race or ethnicity were religion who've done evil things. Like, I'm not going to defend them on that basis.

You know, if there's... If some libertarian, you know, does something awful, right? The Center for a Stateless Society guys, right? No one, no one was like, oh, yeah, well, it's perfectly okay that... I forget what his name was, but, like, you know, he molested his own daughter, got arrested in McDonald's. No one in the Liberty movement was like, you know, know this is really awful but we have to defend him because he's a libertarian they're like this guy's a sick

fucking he needs to be out of our out of our movement you know all the decent people were right right you know well that's a patriot again like not to keep harping on this but you know this is a drama i've been beating for a long time d that's a patriarchal attitude versus a matriarchal attitude don't hurt my baby he didn't do nothing you know he my baby don't don't take him you But dad, that's mom. Dad says, no, whoop that boy's ass. He shouldn't have done that. Whop that boy's ass.

Right? That's what it is. You know? That's how it works. You're a parent. Am I wrong? Isn't that how it really works? Yeah.

And like I've said a million times, this isn't to degrade the feminine and say that there's not a place for it. There absolutely is. But this is why they don't scale well at a societal level. Because the feminine starts turning into the psychopathic. and when it gets scaled up. Like, that's what this is. To me, like, that's what I keep getting out of this.

Maybe I'm just suffering confirmation bias and projecting my own beliefs onto this. But as I read this article, I'm just like, this is what I've been saying for a while. I don't know that I would agree that it's all psychopathy or sociopathy, but I do agree that there's a lot of that feminine energy that's just out of balance and just destroying these people, you know,

and has been by accepting the curse of eat. But anyway, yeah, that's what you were saying. Ben Shapiro says, I don't give a damn about the browning of America. I care about ideology. Right. Fine. Fair enough. And then says America has to like bankrupt itself, making sure that Israel has all the

shells and nukes and whatever it needs. Ben doesn't see the contradiction there. Well, that's what I was saying earlier. That's the worst part is he doesn't see it. Like, it's not an act. He literally doesn't see it. And that's why is to go back to what you said, Dee. How am I supposed to live with you?

this man. Like he literally, this isn't a matter of him even lying. Like eventually if I show him enough evidence, he'll come on my side. That's never going to happen. You and I both know that's never going to happen. We could show him reams and reams of data. Right. And he's never going to change. It's not going to happen. And if I say, okay, fine, Ben, right winged Jews like you are okay, you're nationalists, you're on side, your, your pro-constitution. If I just round up all the communists and do what's necessary for the communists. Are you going to complain? Like, no.

Like, oh my gosh, the anti-Semitism of running up Marcusa and the Frankfurt school and throwing them in the East River and leaving them there. Because that's what should have been done. They should have landed in New York. I'm like, oh, hey, that's nice. And then they should have been like driven onto Long Island sound with concrete around their ankles. You said something there, D, that I will say, I'll try to push back a little bit upon.

You said that they're allowed to believe in God, but we aren't. Well, no, we are allowed to believe in God. Just, we are only allowed to believe and worship like they want us to. You've seen that recently where, you know, people with the whole, with the whole Crisis King thing. It's like, we're, you know, we can believe in God as long as we believe in it, like Andrew Claven wants us to do. A kosher perspective.

Jeremy Boring wants us to do. Yeah. Right, Jose? Yeah. As long as, as, as long as it's in line with how they want us. to worship God. And the ludicrousness, that steps back to D's point earlier about how these people are trying to tell us how to worship.

Like, D, you would use Buddhism for an example. Like, imagine if you went to, you know, somebody that we know, we're mutual friends with and said, yeah, well, I know more about your faith than you do, because my wife took a yoga class once. Like, yeah. Could you imagine, like, the temerity of saying that statement? Like, yeah, my wife had, I, I took. care of the kids one morning on a Tuesday and she went to a yoga class. So let me tell you how to

behave. That also kind of reminds me to go back to like the manosphere or like red pill spaces whenever like women get in those spaces and they become like influencers and then they tell like men like what to do. Like it's like it's so subversive and obviously like feminine. Right. So I mean the reason Ben Shapiro argues way down. is because he's 5-4 maybe 5-5 at the top and maybe 125-130 pounds and the dude's never thrown a right cross that landed clean in his life yeah he's get shoved in a locker to be honest like right so i'm reasonably big guy over six feet and over 200 pounds but i don't go picking fights with dudes who are seven foot tall and 300 pounds yeah bro i don't i don't pick

I'm six three and I don't pick fights with dude that are at all because it's like I don't know what this guy knows and why do I need the trouble. Exactly. I know how to fight and not to go down the wrong rabbit hole here, but if you really know how to fight and you've been around the block, you know that especially as you get older, nobody wins a fight. You're still going to pull something. You're going to hurt something on his job. You know what I mean? You're going to break a knuckle. Yep.

Everybody who's actually been in a tussle listening to me right now, especially as they get older, like, yep. Yep. Yeah. So to go back to your point. Yeah. The only bone I've ever broken in my whole life or in my hands and that was because in a fight. Yep. I've never broken a leg or an arm or anything.

But yeah, my, what are they? The metacarpals or met. Yeah. Yeah. Those I broken because I got in a fight and I punched someone in the friggin' head. Yes. Right. Right.

So. So. So this really goes, I'm only going to fight when I really have to. Because even if I win, I'm going to lose. And for guys like us, you know, who have to pay our own way because we don't have our own ethno state to pay for us. You know, it's like, well, that's time out of work. That's time at the doctor. That's time here.

That's time that I can't get other stuff done. So anyway, I don't want to go down the wrong rabbit. But I do want to say one last one quick thing over a side note to Jose. Jose, I'd love to use this opportunity to say, we should talk some time on your show more about the mannosphere and everything. Yeah. I think we could have a good time on that. I don't want to take up Pete's time with that. We're here for a different reason.

But I would really like to put that on your radar, if I may. Yes. One thing I want to add about the picking fights, I joked with somebody that when you have a really Jewish controlled foreign policy, it's kind of like, it's like one of those like YouTube like hood pranks where you have like people that are like going. It's like it operates on that kind of logic where you literally have like this. group of people that are trying to like stir shit in like the most dangerous areas of like the

globe and it it and when you have like the psyche of like organized jewelry with like a delusion of grandeur you're going to have um people that's going to create all sorts of enemies man like you that's how like you now have literally this like triumvirate of china iran and ron and russia forming like a balancing coalition against the Judeo-controlled West because of organized jewelry picking fights with people from George Soros complaining about how China won't let him short sell to like Russian Jews that have like centuries-long grievances with Russia trying to topple Russia and then like obviously Iran like the Zionist fetish with Iran. these people, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,

and, like, lack of, like, self-awareness leads you to these situations where there's no, it's no longer a prank. It's becoming like a really nasty reality that's going to blow up in their face. Um, yeah. Yeah, Jose. And I mean, to kind of, again, to kind of go back to what I always say. I agree with you. I think that's a phenomenal, a phenomenal, a phenomenal metaphor, by the way, really do. But to go, to go, to go back just a little bit.

And, you know, I'm sure you guys will understand. I'm sure Dee does being married. I'm sure Pete does be married. But like it's like having the woman in your life just start picking fights with guys in the street. Like how dare you talk to me that way? My husband will kick your ass. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. How about we talk about this a little bit first?

You're going to get me fighting every dude in Walmart or Target or whatever. Right. And this is not to say that I haven't had to like, you know. Massive Shinneque energy. Right. Yeah. Like, I remember being in a big city several years ago. And it was one of the Pacific Northwest cities that has gone to pot.

But this was before the summer of Floyd. So it wasn't as bad then, but it was bad. And I'm walking down the street with the misses. And, you know, we just gone to like a Walmart to get something and we're on our way to do something else. And this absolutely, you know, absolutely high as hell dude. starts like given my wife the i want to do things to you eyeball and so i kind of look at him like really bro and uh and uh and he kind of backs off a little bit and she she kind of gets behind me and i get in front of the guy and um you know the usual dumb posturing shit and yeah well

he goes right you got to do your job yeah right yeah right so so it's not it's not that that you know I'm allergic to doing that. If she'd, the difference between that and then her being like shoving your boobs in the dude's face and then getting offended when he's like, hey. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Right, I'm not talking about a man.

Right, right. What he has to do. That's not what I'm, I'm talking about women in your life. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Trying to analogize here, right? Like, Israel, right? American Jews are responsible for the crime that happens in your streets because they're the ones who stopped us from enforcing the law.

American Jews are the ones who are responsible for the destruction of Republican education system because they're the ones who did it. American Jews are the ones who are responsible for almost every social pathology in America today because they're the ones behind all of them. pornography, abortion, divorce. You know, you name it. They're, you know, Dennis Prager admitting, oh, environmentalism, communism, socialism, humanism, all Jews, everything except Nazism. Okay, thanks, Dennis.

Thanks for, thanks for the one ideology that actually works against you people. But, right, if you're going to be responsible for all of these bad things, if you're going to go pick fights with people who want families with people who think that killing babies you're going to go pick fights with all these people and then get mad when one of them takes you up on it and then hide behind a guy you're insane

you're completely insane that's exactly it instead you know like how many billions of dollars has Israel gotten just from Christian pilgrims you want to go see Jerusalem oh yeah I guarantee you it's billions billions of dollars just in tourist tourist revenue alone, right? Instead of saying, well, you know,

we really appreciate you guys coming here and we want to make sure that you guys have a good time and we want to keep you safe and all that. What do they do? They spit on Christian clerics. I was going to say, don't they literally spit all them? There are a few videos out there of them literally spit out there. Yeah, like an abbot in his full clerics with the Spector World Cross.

There was an abbot of a, monastery, I think in the Middle East somewhere, but he was like literally, you know, an abbot in Jerusalem. And all these little 12-year-old, you know, ultra-Orthodox kids spit on this guy. Like, okay, well, then, you know, if, if, to use an analogy, right, if the four of us were like, this is Long Island, this is Catholic. And we spat on a rabbi. Right. In a group, if the four of us is a group, we're like, this is, this is, this is, Mick Wop McWop storage in Long Island, right?

Yep. Like, you know, TLM only, everybody's got to have a big gold crucifix, right? You got it again. Right? You know, like if you don't have your rosary with you,

we punch in the face, right? You know, if the four of us were in a group and spat on a rabbi in Long Island, how long do you think before we were arrested? Oh, minutes. minutes. Right.

With a quickness, man. Yeah. Right. But in Israel, so this is, again, you just can't live with these people. You can't. How, you know, if they won't enforce the law against theirs, but then, you know, make the law such that, like, you just can't live your life. And living your life is against the law. Right.

All right. Let me keep going? Yes, please. There are so much more. And although fundamentally racist, Jewishness can not see itself as such, quote, Judeic ethics, by definition, deny racism. A Jew cannot be racist. Eli Weissel.

This does not prevent the same Eli Weissel from stating that, quote, Jewish history describes an ongoing conflict between us and the others. Since Abraham, we are on one side and the whole world is on the other. It has often been said that the Jews have an ethnocentric conception of universal history, which has no meaning in their eyes except in relation to the Jewish people. Joseph Castine acknowledges this in his book History and Destiny of the Jews 1936. Quote, because it accepted the idea of the chosen people in salvation, the Jewish world was Judeo-centric, and Jews could interpret everything that happened

according to a single point of view, with themselves as the center. End quote. Joshua Jehuda illustrates this perfectly in anti-Semitism mirror the world. Quote, he who plums the depths of universal history to gain an overall vision, finds from that ancient times until today, two opposing currents are fighting over history, penetrating and shaping it constantly, the messianic current and the anti-Semitic current. because messianism and anti-Semitism are the two opposite poles of the journey of humanity. In his megalomania, the psychopath is convinced that when he uses others, it is for their good.

Similarly, according to the rabbinical logic, it is to enlighten humanity that the Jewish community must preserve itself, prosper, and eventually dominate humanity. Quote, Judaism considers only the salvation of the House of the House of the Romanity. of Israel, which alone will permit the salvation of the 70 nations of the universe. That's from Rabbi Anatomy of French Judaism, 1962. This is where the double ethno-religious nature of Judaism helped streamline the paradox that the Jews should remain a separate people in order to spread their universal religion. Such Jewish intellectuals as Felix Adler, 1851 and 1933, have defended the paradoxical idea that the Jewish people must remain ethnically united to accomplish their mission,

to spread the universalism that will dissolve ethnicity from the rest of humanity. Only when the mission is completed will the Jewish people disappear. In this way, has the most ethnically oriented community manages to impersonate the champions of universalism. Thus, when Martin Buber called for the state, calls for a state for the Jews, it was so they could serve humanity. For it is only by fulfilling his messianic dream of a national home, he said that the Jewish religion can lead humanity towards the Messianic age. This argument developed by reformed Judaism is intended primarily for Goyam, but also for soft Jews, in order to convince them that their commitment in favor of the Greek, group is a service to humanity. You know, they, when

I love when people talk about, you know, how Christianity is an evangelizing religion, Islam is a conquering religion, and Judaism has no evangelism or any

anything. Of course they do. They admit it. There's a video of them talking about Tikamala. What is that other than spreading their beliefs. But I think it's, I'm going to say yes and to you, Pete. I think it's worse than that, though.

Whereas if I'm a Christian and I'm evangelizing, that means I want you to become a Christian. That means I want you to join me in my faith. These people don't want you to actually join their group. They just want you to be their employee. They want you to behave the way they want you to be. Do they want you to behave? but you're not actually allowed in the club. You can just work for them.

Like that's where I think this is even worse than evangelizing. Like at least, say what you will about Christianity, at least they'll let you join. Say you what you will about Islam, but at least they'll let you join. These people will never let you join. You are never part of the club. Unless you're born into it, you are never part.

Yes, and I'm sure there will be some listeners and say, well, no, technically you can convert and they allow convergence. It's like, yeah, right, but they're not open armed. Yes, you're allowed to do it, but they're not trying to get you to become Jewish. Nobody comes up to you and says, hey, come to my synagogue, right? Nobody says. Conversion comes up when a Jew wants to marry a goi. Right.

And the goi has to convert. Otherwise, they're not. And from what I've heard is they're never really accepted after. Right. But like the same thing that I've heard. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so certain people will be allowed to convert and will be treated as respectfully because of like Ivanka Trump, right, she converted and she's allowed in because she, you know, she comes with access to billions of dollars in power. Yeah, right.

That's a catch. Exactly. It's no different than Scientology. Like, like if you have, that's it's the same thing. Right. And so there are, there are, you know, wealthy women. married Jews who convert to Judaism and, you know, they're, they're allowed in the club, as it were, because they're a celebrity and they have power. Right.

But it'll be three and four generations. Like, wasn't your great, great grandmother, a guy, you know, like within the inner, you know. Yeah. And one of these things about this sort of this attitude, right, is it's inherently very Gnostic, too. in the sense that there's always an inner inner circle, right? So would any, any three, um, letter acronym with the letter J in it, there's going to be a Jewish organization that has that, you know, the AJC, the CGA, the BJC, you know, like, like any, you know, there will be a non-governmental organization

dedicated with, with that acronym. and if you get to, you know, the Central Committee of Rabbis in Israel, right? Well, they say, oh, yeah, we'll let Ivanka, you know, convert and she can come, come visit, but she's not really Jewish. Her children, you know, like maybe her grandchildren will really be Jewish. Right.

You have to be three generations removed from being a Goy before we'll really accept you as a Jew. Right. Right. And this is exactly my point. All right. The innocent victim. I've actually, from the last time I talked about this, I actually clip this and I put this on my reading of this, two-minute reading of this. I spread this around because I think this is one of the most important points in this whole paper.

The psychopath is unable to see the other person's point of view and criticism strikes him as irrational aggression. This is the reaction of the Jewish elites to criticism. To them, it can be nothing other than the exception. expression of visceral anti-Semitism, an atavistic boyish disease. Judeo phobia is a psychosis, wrote Leo Pinsker, a founding father of Zionism, a hereditary demonic madness, a congenital perversion of human mentality, passed down for 2,000 years, incurable. The psychopath does not know the feeling of guilt. He constantly plays innocent. Those who get in his way or even cast a shadow over his path are solely responsible for their own

destruction. Their accusations are baseless fabrications, their anger and irrational hatred. One thing that Judaism has which other spirituality's lack is innocence, explains Andre Nair, one of the leaders of the Jewish School of Thought of Paris, with Emmanuel Levinas and Leon Ashkenazi. We are innocent, and we feel even more deeply that we are innocent when we are accused. It is this innocence that we must be aware of at present, and that we must never deny, never, in any circumstance, and it works. You will understand nothing of anti-Semitism, wrote John Paul Sart, if you fail to remember that the Jew, the object of so much hatred, is perfectly innocent, nay, harmless. Antisemite in June, 1946, John Paul Sart. The Jewish question is

thus reduced to the question of anti-Semitism, which, thanks to the mythology of the Holocaust, is elevated to the status of metaphysical evil. Quote, the hatred of the Jews is the enigma of enigmas, Andre Gluckman, Hate Speech 2004. It is a necessary enigma, without which the Jewish people could dissolve. Toward the end of his life, the Jewish writer Ilya Ehrenberg repeated that he would consider himself a Jew as long as there was a single anti-Semite left on Earth.

persecution is the central theme of the Passover holiday, Hanukkah, Puram, and Yom Kippur, and Jewish history as taught to Jewish children, according to Michael Valser, is one long tale of exile and persecution. Holocaust history read backwards. According to historian Zygmint Bauman, Israel uses the Holocaust, quote, as the certificate of its political legitimacy as a safe conduct past, for it as a safe conduct pass for its past and future policies and above all as advanced payment for the injustices it might itself commit i mean how do you even comments on that section when it just it speaks for itself well i mean the thing that i find interesting about all this i have a couple points highlighted on my copy and the first is that quote as long as there

was a single anti-Semite left on earth, end quote, about that he would consider himself a Jew. But yet, you go back earlier in the article that says they believe that it is them against the world. Therefore, everybody else is, everybody in existence is an anti-Semite other than them. So it's tacitly saying, we have to get rid of everybody else. like we literally have to get rid of everybody else in order to be who in order to be safe like like that's how else can you read that there's not a other way to read that no one else one else no one else can have any any decision making power in their country right because they need they need servants right because you know but but they can't they like you said Charles like

they'll let you in to like the vestibule Right. And they'll let you, they'll let you, uh, you know, uh, hull water and Hugh and Hugh would, but they won't let you into the congregation as it were. Exactly. And, and so if everyone is your enemy, right? Then they, then, and you still need certain things done, then none of those people can have power. None of those people can pursue their own interests. Because obviously they're going to be against your interests because they're your enemies. Right. Exactly. So you literally have to dominate all the nations of the world, destroy any ability for those people to pursue their own interests. And, you know, this is a great way to create anti-Semites because, I mean, Charles and I've been friends for many years. 10 years ago, neither one of us was an anti-Semite. Absolutely not. Right. Correct. And it was exposure to them and their, and this sort of behavior. You know, I used to listen to Dennis. Prager every day. That is Prater was my favorite

talk radioist. I loved him even more than I loved Rush Limbaugh. And it was watching the behavior of the Jews that turned me into someone that they hate. It was watching this exact behavior that

this guy has been going over. The psychopathic behavior, the double standards, the hypocrisy, the hostility to everybody. Yeah, it's My attitude has been they didn't make me their enemy,

but they certainly have made me realize that they are mine. Like I don't want to say that I just want to be left alone, bro, because I don't believe in that philosophy, especially after listening to the two of you in your last excellent broadcast, they want you dead on the inside too, which absolutely brilliant title, gentlemen. But what I have to say is I look at it more and forgive me for using this metaphor, but I look at it as very much like a snake. It's like, no, I don't hate the snake.

I don't want to necessarily kill the snake, but I certainly am going to keep my eyes on it. I certainly am going to watch where it's going, what it's doing. Like I, and I certainly don't want it in my bed, you know, in my living room, in my kitchen. That's, that's my attitude at this point. Around my kids. Right. Exactly, right. That's exactly. And it's just because how can I think otherwise? You know, if somebody were to just randomly say, oh, well, you're, you're just hateful. You're an anti-Semite. It's like, well, first off, what does that mean exactly? Because anybody, according to the, a lot of these quotations, is automatically an anti-Semite. Just automatically because I'm not in the club. I'm therefore against them. So what does that even mean? And second off, how could I not? even if it does mean what they say it means.

And I'm not giving that ground, to use a friend's quote, I'm not buying the frame, thus buying the farm. But let's just say to be devil's advocate that I do, how could I be anything else? I mean, it says here throughout that I can't basically be in the club. I'm always going to be an enemy. I'm less than human, or at least I'm certainly not as evolved as human as they are. How am I supposed to take that?

I don't think there's a rational way that I can just be okay with that. I don't see it. If there is, then by all means, you're welcome to enlighten me. But I don't see it. Well, I mean, you know, just go back to Freud's comment about universal, obsessional neurosis of humanity. And he was referring mainly to Catholicism. Right.

which when when um when vincent james and um and i think it was foentes were debating um Gavin McGuinness and i forget what that guy's name is adam king or something like that and that and vincent asked the question to king of if you could get rid of Islam or you could get rid of catholicism which one would you get rid of and he said Catholicism and it's like okay the cat's out of the bag yeah that's when Gavin McGinnis walked Gavin McGinnis walks out but yet I mean he's still he he still wears the leash proudly but um yeah I mean that's obviously they want to get rid of they want to get rid of Catholicism because Islam is not their enemy yeah what did the one guy

Islam is to broom Islam is the broom of Judaism yeah I didn't out of that that's a great quote. I don't mean, look at the historical record of expulsions. They're predominantly from Europe, not really from the Middle East. Of course they'd want to get rid of Catholicism. They got the Messiah, and they killed him. It's like if you have a Messiah, then you can't

have a Messianic religion any longer. It's like, you already have a Messiah. There's nothing to wait for now. It does everything. To just talk for just a second. I don't know, I know Pete, you've been to the occasional traditional Mass. I don't know if Jose or Charles. Yes, I have.

Yep. Okay. To liturgy posts for just a second here. They're best people who've ever done an explanation. If you go to Catholic Family News, they have a website and a series on their, like, comparing the old and new mass. But if you go to an old mass and the full thing with, you know, the priest, the deacon, the subdeacon, you know, multiple altar service, the whole nine yards.

choir, everything. There's a moment in the old mass where the subdeacon who represents the Jews covers his eyes as the gospel is moved or as the liturgy book is moved from the right side of the altar to the gospel side to the left side. And that is to symbolize the Jews' blindness to the full truth of the faith.

Right. So one of the reasons the old mass was destroyed by Jews, you can look it up like the Daily Forward has like The Jews, you know, instrumental in Vatican, too. So this isn't, this isn't me. This is them. Malachi Martin being bought off, basically. Yeah, I mean, there's a whole bunch of other people that will admit that, yeah, they'll admit it amongst themselves.

One of my favorite games is Daily Forward or Daily Stormer. Right. You just take the bottom of the article. Anyway, so you take that. Right. And they're not wrong that, you know, European Christian civilization is inherently anti-Semitic. Okay, fine. Why not just leave then? Why do you insist on staying in France and England and Germany and Spain and Italy in all these, these, you know, Christian countries? Why does Barbist Bexer say, well, you know, we're presented, but we're instrumental in making Sweden, you know, diverse? Why? If the Swedes are your enemies and you're teaching your children, you're teaching your children,

children that all the Swedes want to kill all the Jews. Why do you insist on staying here? Why don't you have Israel? Why not go? Why do you got to why is, you know, a part of Brooklyn where if you don't read Hebrew, you can't understand the street signs? Why? Why don't you just go? Why don't you leave? Well, they don't go. Why do you have to be here? Right. Well, they don't go because they know that that that means they're not special anymore. Remember, they define themselves by their opposition. That's what they do. I mean, they say, why would you want to live? You get rid of everybody else. It says in this own article that once we dissolve everybody else's ethnicity, then we don't exist anymore. So therefore, they don't want to really at heart

dissolve everybody else because if they do, then they're gone. Like, that's their own philosophy. That's not me. That's their word. Yeah. I mean, they claim it's a goal, but they don't because then they'll lose their identity. They don't want to lose their identity. They won't be chosen anymore if everybody else is gone. So they work towards it, but I know that sounds crazy, but it, but it really is at the end of the day, a half-heartedness. Because if they really wanted to be, to be just one of the crowd, as you say, Dee, they would just go somewhere and be one of the crowd. But they don't know. Like if, if you think that, that everyone else is a psychopath out to kill you. Right? Right. Like,

like, uh, like you mentioned, right? The other friend of yours, he was like, mom, why are you inviting my class mister, Barm, Britsma? Mm-hmm. Right? Like, like, they want, they want us to die. Like, if, if every Swede secretly in his heart, you know, is, naturally wants you to die, why don't it just leave Sweden?

Why not just go? Why not just leave France? Why not just leave the United States? If, if the United States is this, you know, you know, avatistic Christian Christophascist country which is only like five minutes away from like doing pogroms again

why not just go why don't I just leave why does Ben Shapiro you know fake move to Nashville and then goes down to South Florida with all his buddies why can't they just you know

I'm not really a big fan of South Florida we'll call it New Israel and you all the Jews can move to like Miami county, it could be its own sovereign state, you know, whatever. Just go there. Leave us alone. But because they're inherently parasitic, you know, this is, the Jews complaining about

their treatment in America or Western Europe is like a tapeworm complaining that, like, the host is like, like, you really need more X, Y in your diet. This is not as comfy as it should be. Yeah. Right. Like, you need more iron, buddy. I'm not getting enough here. This is psychopathic.

It's insane. Yeah. Speaking of, the next section is called Israel's psychopath state. The state of Israel is now in the international scene what the psychopath is in a human community. With regard to the Palestinians,

Israeli Jews consciousness is characterized by a sense of victimization, a siege mentality, blind patriotism, belligerence, self-righteousness, dehumanization of the Palestinians, and insensitivity to their suffering, in the words of journalist Akiva Eldar, Operation Castlet against Gaza in 2008-2009. As noted by the deputy's director of military intelligence, Yehosefat Harkaby, dazzled by its self-righteousness, Israel cannot see the case of the other side. self-righteousness encourages nations no less than individuals to absolve themselves of every failing

and shake off the guilt of every mishap. When everyone is guilty except them, the very possibility of self-criticism and self-improvement vanishes. The Israeli journalist Gideon Levy wrote in Haretz in 2010, that only psychiatrists can explain Israel's behavior. Well, unfortunately, the psychiatry is a Jewish, is basically a Jewish invention. So that would be, we're going to imagine what that explanation will be. However, the diagnosis he offers. There you go.

However, the diagnosis he offers, including paranoia, schizophrenia and megalomania, is, in my opinion, insufficient. It must take into account Israel's extraordinary, extraordinary, manipulative capacity on the world stage via corruption and propaganda, that is to say, the bank and the press. Israel's relationship to the United States is that of a typical psychopath to an influential and impressionable man he has decided to use to accomplish his misdeeds. The golden rule of manipulation formulated by Colonel Mandel House, who is the intermediary between the Zionist Network and President Woodrow Wilson, applied.

generally to Israel's manipulation of the United States. Quote, with the president, it was invariably my intention to always make him believe that ideas he derived from me were his own. Indeed, Israel has managed to lead America into a Middle East policy that only serves Israeli interests by pretending to the American people that it serves their interests. The psychopath tries to interfere in all the human relationships of his prey so as to prevent any alliance that could allow him to be unmasked. Isolate and divide and rule are the essence of this strategy. This is exactly what Israel and its neoconservative moles have done by trying to split the United

States from its historic allies in the Middle East with the aim of one day remaining the only ally of the United States in the area. The demonization of all heads of state in the Arab world is part of this strategy. That's one of the reasons why when people say, well, Why would the United States keep overthrowing secular dictators, let's call them dictators? I don't think that's a bad word. And replacing them with clerics who are out of their minds and lunatics. Well, because then it gets to, we get to hate them.

We're not going to look upon the guy who. Well, Tassily supporting the clerics. Like, you know, not a big fan of Jimmy Doris politics, but he's an honest man. And he'll, you know, like he'll talk about the fact that, you know, not now who bragged about supporting Hamas, you know, in 2019. ISIS fighters in Syria, like, got treatment at Israeli hospitals. The Salafist Muslim, you know, insurgency in Iraq that, um, that was so monstrous. The Israelis never went after.

They never went after the Israelis. There was no, there was no terrorist attacks in Israel. they're destroyed the Christians, you know, and the reason the Baothism, right, the Baoth party is secular Arab fascism. And the Christians in Iraq, the Christians in Syria, both supported Saddam Hussein and the Assad regime, because that was the only things didn't bring them and the Salafas crazies. So why, why destroy those? Well, because what happened to the Assyrian Christians, the Georgian Christians, the Maronite Christians in Lebanon, the Coptic Christians in Egypt? What happened to all those people? They all got destroyed.

Yeah. You're seeing that right now with Armenia, with Azerbaijan basically being like an Israeli proxy as well. Yeah. Right. Actually, there is even a really blatant, like, Masked off article from this like Israeli think tank that, they were. saying like that Western forces should not try to destroy ISIS in Syria because this could create a power vacuum that Hezbollah will assume it will fill. It's just like it's so obvious at this point.

Yeah, ISIS, I mean, means is Israel. It's just short for is Israel because they're, they, what were they bombed? They were bombing southern, um, in southern Syria and some bombs went over. Israel and they went into the newspaper and they apologize. Why would they apologize if all they want to do is kill Jews? Right. And that's what we're told, right? Yeah, well, and that's where the dishonesty of Jewish figures in the media, you know, I'll sense of, you know, Andrew Clayton will be like, about this Tucker Carlson interviewing this Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem, right? You know, and, oh, this is a, you know, Tucker's going on a dark path and took, you know, in total distortions.

and okay, well, if you weren't just a psycho, a Jewish narcissist psychopath, Andrew Cleven, right? You would, you know, okay, well, here's why he's wrong. And you cite some examples, right, of why this Christian cleric who's from Bethlehem and can't go to Jerusalem without getting shot. It's basically a prisoner is on home. Why would he feel the way he does? A non-a psychopathic would try to empathize and be like, okay, well, I can see why you feel that way, and here's how we would come to some sort of motives vivendi. Here's how we would live together, you know, but they don't because they're dishonest psychos.

Yeah. Speaking of the power of the Zionist manipulation of the United States based on quasi-total control of the mainstream media alongside large-scale psychological operations such as September 11th is truly bewildering. But it becomes understandable in light of the cognitive mechanisms of psychopathy. It even becomes predictable to some extent if we keep in mind that the psychopath has no ability to question, no limits to his appetite for power, and no remorse about leading humanity into ruin to save his skin. Nothing better illustrates the psychopathic nature of Zionism than the apocalyptic nuclear blackmail Israel perpetually exercises over the West under the name the Samson option. In 1974, Golden Maitre summed it up as Israel's willingness in a doomsday situation to take the region down with it in the event of looming defeat. And remember, there is no limit to the psychopath's thirst for power because he does not seek power for the comfort it can bring him, but instead loves power for the sake of power.

Conclusion. Speaking of the Samson option, real quick. Good. The same synopsin isn't just like, if you destroy us, we'll nuke Damascus and we'll nuke Cairo and we'll nuke Ankara and we'll nuke Beirut. Right. Whatever, their enemies in the Middle East. They've threatened Athens and Rome and Paris and, you know, European countries too, because it's the responsibility of Europeans to make sure that they don't lose, right?

You know, you have Jews, whether it's in Nukkazaria in Ukraine or in Bibi Netanyi, like you've got these two Jewish presidents and people have made lots of jokes, but fundamentally, right? You've got these two Jewish presidents of these two Jewish ethnostates with freedom of wudgeon with, you know, all of these other evil policies that if we tried it at home, they'd be the first people to complain, right? But if you do it in Ukraine, you do it and you do it in Israel, it's okay. they've both complained, you need to give us more money and more guns and more,

you know, more lawyers, guns and money, or you're a bad person, or you're an anti-sumite, or you're a criminal, or you're a, what the fuck?

I mean, I started to swear, but like, what in the hell is wrong with you, people? I mean, that is madness. Like,

if I don't give you guns, if I don't give you guns, if I don't give you guns, if I don't give you, you billions of dollars that I can't afford that I need for myself and for my children, for my country, for my home, then I'm a bad person. When your own people in this country are wealthier than anybody else, Ben Shapiro has millions of dollars.

Let Ben Shapiro, like, let there be the Ben Shapiro brigade, the Daily Wire Brigade and the Daily Wire folks with all their millions of dollars. They can do it. Right. Why you got a reason in my pocket? I haven't got a dime to rub two dimes to rub together. Right. You know why?

I don't have two dimes to rub together. Gas is $5 a gallon. And food cost 25% and whose fault was that? Who was Biden? It was Biden's fault. It's all Biden's fault. Isn't that what Ben Shapiro is going to tell you? Right.

Yeah. It's not his secretary of treasury. It's not his department of home security. It's not his, you know, his NIH and his department of health wait a minute who's in charge of all those his secretary

right yeah yeah his secretary of uh home and security he's letting in 10 million you know well violent welfare dependence into my country in the last four years and I don't have any money because of it

but you know highest board member Andrew Alejandro Mayorkas he's just a purely disinterested guy he's just a liberal. He's not actually a Jew, right? I know you're old enough to remember this, Pete. Do you remember David from? Of course. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I remember that name. What a loathsome creature. That's exactly the right answer. We'll bring him up because I only brought him up on this week's

third rail. So give that a listen to the right stuff that is come out, comes out Sundays. David from started out Canadian came to the United States became a policy guy right wrote George W. Bush's axis of evil speech that basically you know that had that insane manichaean thing of like if you're not for this new conservative project you're an enemy of all humanity right and um so he picked the fight with the whole world with that speech right And then as the conservative base in America was like, wait a second, we're not getting anything out of this and became more Trumpian, became more paleo-conservative, returned to actually what our ideological roots are as an Asian, more Taftian republicanism, right? Tariffs, more Calhoun and less ridiculous messianic nonsense. He is now over at the Atlantic magazine as a far leftist.

talking about how right you know the cover an image of the latest Atlantic magazine right the end of the golden age for Jews in America what I thought David Frum was a conservative yeah shape shift for wait a second what

now you want to know something even wackier about David Frum this goes back to your point D about like the tape Worm complaining about his host getting too fat or out of shape is that he's not like a liberal, but he also will like countersignal them saying like, you guys need to like reconsider your open borders. You're like mass open borders policies because it's provoking a right wing backlash. And it's like, dude, you're the one that's like advocated for the nonsense before. And to be honest, I hope like one of those like, um, migrants from like the Middle East

and introduces you to like some of the Middle East as the finest cutlery so to get your come up. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And yeah, this is a guy, his, his wife, I believe, Daniel Crittenden, um, who's also like a, you know, a big wig and watch.

She's a convert in Judaism. So his children won't be considered, you know, if he wasn't like the, you know, Canadian Jewish royalty because his mother, Barbara. from was like a big columnist at the Toronto Star, right? He's not a particularly intelligent guy or like good looking or anything. So why is this guy, you know, important? Oh, because his family's important. Right.

Yeah. Right. And I've, I said it last time, but, but like, you guys are all more insightful than he is. Why aren't you, you know, on the, you know, a senior editor at the Atlantic magazine or Harper's or something like that, national review? why isn't human events call you guys up and said, hey. Right? Exactly. Yeah.

Well, there's a reason why. It's because who controls all of those. Nepotism. Yep. Yeah. Right. There's a sound bite for you. Yeah.

Anyway, well, I could rail about this for, like, literally all day and never repeat myself, but I'll let Pete. All right, let's do the conclusion, and then we can continue the conversation. All right, conclusion. By drawing a parallel between psychopathy as a personality of disorder and the attitude of Israel, I do not mean, of course, the Jews in general. They are the first being manipulated by their elites, and they are part of a collective psychopathy only to the extent of their submission to those elites.

Jewishness do not forget is whatever idea the Jews make of it, and the ideas the Jews make of it is, almost entirely, the one imposed on them by their elites. What is at issue is to prevailing ideology of Israel and more discreetly of the organized Jewish community. Dominant discourse is always shaped by the elite. Sometimes a strong current of popular thought emerges to challenge the dominant way of thinking, but nothing of this kind is yet observable in the Jewish community. It is overwhelmingly docile to its elites, which currently dominates the media and the entertainment industry and therefore enjoys considerable mind control powers.

Their ruses to maintain in the Jews an absolute conviction of the immaculate innocence of their people and simultaneously to inculcate a paranoid fear of anti-Semitism, this, quote, disease transmitted for 2,000 years, incurable, quoting Leo Pinsker. In the corporation, the pathological pursuit of profit and power, Free Press 2005, Joel Bakken noted that those legal persons that are large companies behave like psychopaths insensitive to the suffering of those they crush in their pursuit of profit. Corporate behavior is very similar to that of a psychopath, quoting. That company culture, which involves every employee to one degree or another,

is driven by its ruling elite. The Enron case has shown the world. the tremendous damage that can be done by a company run by people of high intelligence and perverse ideology. My analysis here of the Jewish community is based on exactly the same reasoning. Like it or not, the character of a nation is as much determined by its legitimate leaders than the reverse. Until proven otherwise, Benjamin Netanyahu is as much Israel as Vladimir Putin is Russia. Lidin is indeed a terrorism expert. he is said to be an Operation Gladiowet operative.

And since Israel has New York as its second capital, we must also count among its elites the neo-conservatives, neo-here means crypto, and conservative means Lakudnik, whose leaders define themselves as disciples of Leo Strauss, therefore implicitly as super Machiavellian. In his thoughts on Machiavelli, in fact, Strauss claims he is the only one who understands what Machiavelli, why Machiavelli never dared to write.

This hyper Machiavelli knows some of the neoconservatives to which they admit when speaking amongst themselves must be taken very seriously. In an article in the Jewish World Review of June 7, 1999, the neoconservative Michael Ledean defends the thesis that Machiavelli was a secret Jew since, quote, if you listen to his political philosophy,

you will hear Jewish music. According to Strauss, Machiavelli is the super patriot who understands that only the nation has an eternal soul, and that therefore the best leader is one who has no fear of losing his soul, since he has none. In practice, the art of the Machiavellian prince is to terrorize while diverting popular resentment towards his enemies.

I believe that the admission of Ledeen sheds light on the psychopathic nature of Israel. From the Judeo-Machiavellian, i.e. neoconservative point of view, the current leaders of— Israel from Tel Aviv to New York, from Benjamin Netanyahu to Larry Silverstein, are superpatriots. This article is in no way anti-Semitic. It is a severe criticism of Jewishness as a system of thought, a representation of the world and the self. We are critiquing an idea by exposing its dangerous irrationality, nothing more. Even if it is as old as the world, an idea still deserves critique. Since the first victims of a toxic area are the men and women it inhabits, they are likewise

the first we would help liberate. This article is basically a fraternal message to all Jews, Jews of all countries, Jews of all countries disunite, break away from your elites in their pathological ideology, rejoin humanity. Likewise, not all elites deserve to be put in the same bag. Many are the Zionist leaders who have had the courage to confront the monster they created and to try to try to. to undo the damage. Moesha Charette, foreign minister from 1948 to 1956, and prime minister from 54 to 55, advocated a moderate Zionism respectful of international laws in contrast to the methods of Ben-Gurian, Pinnis-Livan, Moshe Dian, Shimon Peres, the clan determined to set the Middle East on fire. That's a quote, to frighten the West into supporting Israel's aims, another quote,

by raising terrorism to the level of a sacred principle. Another quote, according to Sharet. The Zionist leader Nahum Goldman quoted above was in favor of a genuine dialogue with the Arabs and was deeply disillusioned by the attitude of Ben-Gurion, whom he described as, quote, organically incapable of compromise, and blinded by self-righteousness.

After 1967, he became an outspoken critic of illegal occupation in Palestinian territories. During the government of Beghen, he advised President Carter to break the back of the Zionist lobby that he had long-headed, which he believed had become a negative factor afflicting American foreign policy. Why have men like Shoret and Goldman never managed to overcome the psychopathic ideological power machine of Zionism? Could it be because it, why Jewishness itself, is rooted deeply in the Bible? In the final analysis, does not the Zyman? Zionist manipulation go back to the creation by those ancient priests, the Levites of a tribal

god by the name of Yahweh, who usurp the title of the creator of the universe and father of humanity. Ultimately, is not Zionism the logical outcome of Yahwehism. This is a question that I will reserve for another article. Yeah. Three and a half pages and notes. So this isn't just some dude giving opinions. This is three and a half pages of citations. Yeah, there's, oh, this site, there's 37 citations in here. A few of them are over and over again. I mean, and a lot of these books I've read, which is, which is, right. So 37 citations and pages, right?

This is like a major citation in every paragraph. I just want to talk about the new conservatives for just a second. I know we brought up Andrew Claven earlier, but it's worth talking about here for just a second. now some of the west coast strasians at the american mind have kind of come along to they they have fully understood that like america is weak and um angelo kateauela and um those sorts of guys west coast trowsians at the clarimine institute have have

almost kind of come on board with like the mega thing um but they're still jews and so i'll just bring this up for a second so andrew claven sits there apostatizes on television and still presumes to lecture Christians. But there's standards in the Bible for, like, who should talk. And his son, his only son, Spencer Claven, is at the Claremont Institute. He is, quote, unquote, married to another dude,

who's the Daily Wire's lawyer, and claims to be a Christian. So here's this guy who's openly a sodomite, presuming to lecture Christians and conservatives about, and he's got his own podcast about like the classics or Western tradition and stuff. And he's got his very cushy perch at this new conservative think tank that is largely responsible for all the problems we have today in foreign policy. No one at the Claremont Institute should ever talk about public matters ever again. Anyone who is responsible for the Iraq war, I've had to loudly, and I will continue repenting

for my support for the lack of war for the rest of my life. But I wasn't the Deputy Secretary, Assistant Secretary of Defense when that happened. I was just a dude who listened to the radio. Yeah. Right. Like, I'm not responsible for all the dead, all the dead kids in Iraq. Claremont was ghoulish at that time, too. Yeah, they were like saying, like, they didn't go far enough.

Right. Right. Yeah. So these are people that, you know, Michael Ladeen should never be allowed. Like, he shouldn't, he should be in jail, honestly, for war crimes. But if he wasn't in jail for work crimes, every time he leaves his house, he should be pelted with rotten fruit and call a kid murderer because that's what he is. Right. But there's never admitting that you're wrong, never paying any consequence, right?

How many Paul Wolfowitz? What's happened to him? You know, Don Rumsfeld died in bed. That shouldn't have happened. Right? We're talking about if Andrew Claven wants to presume. to lecture Christians who listen to other Christians who say, we're being killed and our churches are being destroyed. Andrew Claven shouldn't apostasize on television and and not fit the requirements

of like, hey, if your son's gay and proud of it and talks about how he's a gay Christian, maybe you should just be quiet. Maybe you shouldn't be lecturing other people whose children aren't openly committing sins on the regular cry to heaven for vengeance. Just saying, like, where's where's the humility of like I I screwed up really bad as a father to have a gay son because because somehow his son got abused that's how that happened right he let his son get abused somehow because it's your job as a dad to make sure that sort of thing does not happen to your children right if there's any job that you have as a father it's making sure that some of the dude doesn't physically sexually abuse your children

That's like job number one, right? Yeah. And here Andrew Claven is, you know, he ought to just like shut his mouth and be ashamed. Yeah. But he never will. A little bit of breaking news. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

I was going to say anything. Yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. The 50 to 100 Iranian drones are headed towards Israel right now. Yeah. May God speed the day. Like, yep.

Yeah, let's hope that the Halak Talmudic serpent meets its maker. Well, if they bombed the consulate in Syria and killed major Iranian generals, if the Israeli consulate in Egypt got bombed by a bunch of people from Sudan, do you think that the Israelis wouldn't level Sudan to the ground? Right, absolutely. Are you crazy? I mean, I know I keep repeating this, but this is, this is worth these people are crazy. This, this whole paper, you know, we spent the last two hours going over this paper. There is not one example you can cite of these people being reasonable with other people.

You know, privately Charles and I have disagreed about stuff over the years. Privately Pete and I have disagreed about stuff. I bring it up to Pete in private. Pete goes, yeah, okay, I see your point. but I also disagree with you and we're just going to have to learn with it. I go, okay, yeah, sure, you're right. Same thing's happened with Charles. Same thing happened was to say I've interacted with almost everyone who's there's able to interact with on the far right.

I disagreed with them or agreed with them across the board. You know what I've never done? Refused to see their point at all. Yeah. And then, and then said, oh, if you disagree with me, you're, you know, you're an animal. You're not a human being. which is what these people are doing. Yeah.

Just to step back to the psychopathic behavior real quick. I had a couple of notes that I wrote down while we were going over the conclusion. And one of the things I just want to mention is they constantly discuss in all forms of media, the rise of anti-Semitism, quote. And I think it's interesting when one combines the information age, the global information network, with abusive behaviors that psychopaths, I prefer sociopaths, but I'll keep to the word psychopaths because that's what the paper uses. The psychopathic behaviors of divide and conquer manipulation.

And I think it's interesting because my perception after reading this is that really what they're saying when they say anti-Semitism is on the rise, they say it's really what we call the noticing colloquially. But what the noticing is in the context of this paper is seeing the divide and conquer, is seeing the abusive behavior. Because as somebody that's been in more than one abusive relationship as the victim, and yes, that's on me. I am the weak link in my own chain.

I can say, like, when you're trapped in one of these things, it's hard to see the forest through the trees, as they say. It's hard to know you're being abused until you start talking to other people that are in healthy relationships. And you're like, wait a minute. Wait, this isn't normal? This isn't, no, that's not normal. That's crazy.

Like, why are you letting her do that? Or why is this happening? Or why, you know, why you're letting them do that or him do that? And that's what's really happening is a lot of people are starting to see that their friends are being abused or that they are in an abusive relationship. And that's why these people are scrambling because the abuse is being spotted. And that's why they have to shut it down because when, That's why they have to ban TikTok.

Right. Yeah, exactly. Like at the end of the day, that's why. It's really because that's what the noticing colloquially, that's what it is. It's just everybody acknowledging that they're in an abusive relationship and everybody pointing out that you shouldn't be treated this way. It kind of goes back to your point. Not kind of.

It does go back to your point, D, with the whole, okay, I get it that I shouldn't have these things, but why do you have these things? You know, why? Okay, if you say I shouldn't have these things, but then why do you? well, you're not allowed to point that out. You're not allowed to see the abusive nature of the relationship. Because if it was a healthy relationship, well, then you can have what I can have because I care about you and it's a good way to live, et cetera, et cetera.

And that's really what the noticing is, just all of us revealing to one another, the unhealthy relationship in which we find ourselves. Another point of an analogy. Go ahead. Please go. Okay. So if I go to work at a job I don't like. And I come home and I buy my spouse, you know, but, but it pays well and I work hard.

And I buy my wife a nice house. Right. And I come home and I get in the driveway, get the mail, open the door, drop the mail off. And then I'm like, you know, glad you have a nice house and it's got those beautiful ceilings and everything's really nice and all the bills are paid. And then I walk through the house and go out the back door. and go lay down to a shed with a cot and a hot plate. If I'm paying for the nice house, but I don't get to live there.

I don't get my, you know, like people are like, what in the, what is wrong with you, man? Your wife is a psycho. What do you mean you can't live at home?

Exactly. Yep. That you pay for. Yep. That you, that you, right? But you're going to go live in the shed on a cot?

with like a space heater and a hot plate. There's no comb cooked meals. You don't, you know, you got to do laundry at the laundromat. What? What? Right. That's nuts. And, you know, I mean, to your point, Charles, about the, about the abusive relationship, right?

For all those people, you know, Andrew Claven will sit there and I've only been picking him a lot, but he deserves it. we'll sit there and say, oh, America's got a major problem with abortion. Well, Andrew, if I point out who's behind abortion, freaking Ruth Bader Ginsburg was abortion Barbie for these bitches. Who's that? Who's behind abortion? Right. Who's the people that supported it?

Who's the people that it made it possible legally? Right. And I don't want to cut you off, but I just want to say the last two very brief points that I have because you've just led into them. One of them touches back to Pete's anecdote about the individual that he knew that he was genuinely befuddled, the individual that he knew was genuinely befuddled why everybody would be invited to the celebration when they all hated him and wanted him dead. It's like this, and this is what I think of.

I love that anecdote so much because to me that that confirms the last words in this conclusion, the ones that I want to hold on to too, too. It's like, no, I'm not doing this to hurt all Jewish people. That's not why I'm doing this. I'm doing this to critique the idea. And I'm doing this for kids like that. Like, who does that to a child? Who makes a child that neurotic, that paranoid?

Like, my issue isn't that they have their own culture. My issue isn't that they have their way of doing things. I happen to believe everybody should have their way of doing things. But when it's abusive, when it's destructive, when it's perpetuates a cycle of horrors, like, then it shouldn't be a thing. And to me, like, I want to free the 12-year-olds that are like that, that are in that mindset. That's what I want to do with this conversation. I mean, obviously, I can't solve all the world's problems with the conversation.

But I'm just saying, to me, I agree with the last line in this. My goal isn't to just attack, attack, attack. It's righteous anger. and it's for what I'd like to believe to be a higher purpose. And then the last thing I'll say, and that's it for me on this episode as far as I'm concerned, to give everybody else the time to finish their thoughts. When they talk about hyper Machiavellians, one thing that's always driven me crazy is when people constantly use the quote, it is better to be feared than loved.

That's completely missing the point. Yes, it's technically accurate, but is completely missing the point. The quote in its entirety is, in the question of whether it is better to be loved or feared, the answer is, of course, it is best to be both. However, if one must choose, it is better to be feared. But the actual quote, it is best to be both. Like any good father, D, you is a man who have children, it is best if your children both, love and fear you. Yes, they should fear when

dad comes home if they've been misbehaving. But they should love him and look forward to his return. I'll stop there. I just thought of that. But think about this, right? So these neoconservatives have hollowed out America with their ideology

of free trade and effectively I can't remember where I saw it, but someone said, you know, the entire 20th century was a bribe to the rest of the world, right? America had everything, and we gave it all away as a bribe to other people who won't reciprocate, right? There's absolutely no way that we're getting all that manufacturing capacity back from China. China's never going to be like, you know what we need to do free trade? Like, that ain't happened. Right. It's not going to happen. So there's this vast destruction on all areas of American life, economic, social, political, religious, you know, you can't, can't name a sphere where things have gone better in the last 80 years after Jews took over in 1950. Like, you just can't. And a sane, healthy people would look at that track record and go, okay, what do we need to change to turn this ship around?

And it might not be that you need to like defenestrate all Jews from any position of authority, responsibility, or influence whatsoever. But you'd have to at least look at it and go, well, who was in charge of the ship when he ran into the iceberg? You know, maybe we shouldn't put that guy in the captain's chair again. And the second you ask the question of like, well,

you know, a constitution that allows pornography and abortion isn't much of a constitution, really? I mean, if you think about it, like shouldn't we take a look and go, well, whose idea was it, like murdering babies and letting 19-year-old girls sell images

that are naked butt on the internet was like somehow like a core part of freedom of speech? Whose idea is, that's crazy? That's insane. And lo and behold, every single time, it's every single time. you know, Stu Peters two years ago was like a conspiracy guy who thought that they were putting nanobots in the vaccines. I'm not saying Stu was wrong about the vaccines.

But what's to talk about now? It's just it's Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews. Because everywhere you look in every single endeavor, as Dennis Prager himself admits, everything but Nazism is Jews all the way down. Okay. Thanks, Dennis. It's interesting to me that I, before October 7th, you know, I had really started talking it up and everything really started mentioning, hey, there's this group that has out, you know, overrepresented control. And they're called the Jews.

And I had somebody who I know in real life, somebody that I've, you know, had a meal. with who contacted me and said, I had totally given up on your show because of this whole Jews thing. You were just talking about the Jews until October 7th happened. And I saw how they reacted. And you saw how, you know, people who never talked about their Judaism before, you know, Dave Rubin, well, how did he, how did that Sotomite ever, you know, he'd mentioned it in passing. you know, Gadsad said. I mean, I didn't know, I didn't even know he was Jewish. I didn't even really, you know, never even gave it a second thought because I thought he was just a milked toast, you know, gatekeeper kind of kind. And then he, he unleashes and everything. It's like,

I'm not saying that October 7th was the, you know, the greatest thing that ever happened. I mean, I wish stuff like that didn't happen in this world, but I'm also realistic. And I know man's, I know man's nature. But I also know how people react. when they've been, you know, basically oppressed for 80 years. But really, the, this wouldn't happen without the internet. And I don't think this would happen without Twitter becoming as open as it has with musk buying it where people can talk. I mean, and I know that there, I know Jared Taylor is not on Twitter.

I know Nick Fuentes isn't on Twitter, guys. I'm not saying it's, I'm not saying it's perfect. But I'm saying that it's, um, it's the great, you know, I mean, you would not be having these conversations. You wouldn't be having people like, you wouldn't have Candice Owens doing what she does. If you think she's a grifter, I don't care. But it's amazing.

I mean, you have Candice Owens, basically. Like, people contact me and go, does Candice Owens listen to your show? Because she, she's repeated, she's tweeted word for words, word for word things I've said on my show. Of course. Tucker Carlson's repeating stuff I've said.

And it's not to say that necessarily the people are listening or Blake Neff was, you know, feeding him lines. It's just that the only people that are having real conversations is us, right? That's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's been the case for at least 15 years. I mentioned this years and years ago to somebody else. Um, but trying to describe politics without being honest about Jews or race or women or, um, um, And the other things that we're honest about that no one else is honest about it. It's like trying to build a bridge without, well, ignoring, like, Newton's laws of physics, right? You just, you can't, you can't do it.

And so necessarily, as things get more difficult, as the money runs out, as debts gets higher, as inflation, as, you know, world's civilization, as these foreign wars go on, right? All of these other things kind of, like, you can't paper over. the problems in the world with like sympathetic media coverage and quantitative easing anymore. Right. Right. And so as these things have gotten more difficult, right? You know, Candace first got in trouble by like, she's a black lady. Right.

You promoted her knowing that like black women are insanely solipsistic and incapable of, of listening to arguments. Right. you put her in front because you've, you've made it so conservative, anytime a conservative says, well, how about I just advocate for myself as a white dude? You're like, no, we must find the base black person to talk for you. Otherwise, you know, you're not, you know, you're not allowed.

Right. And so you, Candace Owens, like, when she first got her start, she was like going to run like a Doxton website. I've never trusted her. But I'm not the one who, you know, she, she ended married to a dude, George Farmer. his father is in the house of lords and is worth hundreds of millions of dollars or a billion dollars or something. Right. Her father and her, her father was literally a baron in the house of lords.

And do you think that she just found that connection, like randomly walking down the street like some dude, right? Like, no, she got there because of who she knows and she was, I think he was part of like TPUK or something turning point. Yeah, T.

U.S. T. U.K. Yeah. Right. So like that, that's who she. Like she was promoted to these, you know, to this stuff because of who she is, because she's a reasonably intelligent, you know, articulate black person who's clean and doesn't, you know, like whatever, you know, Joe Biden's that applies to Candace.

And because, you know, Kanye, right, obviously one of the top 10 most important entertainers in the world of whether, you know, whether you like his music or not, I've never bought a Kanye album, never listened to any of his stuff. But I have to acknowledge that he's a big deal. Yeah. That he's influential. Yeah, right. Whether we like him or not, he's influential, full stop. Right. Right.

So when she does what black people do, which is say, be insanely, insanely solubistic towards their own race, you guys get mad at her. And, you know, like, okay, I'm sorry, this lady's had kids. And then you bomb a bunch of kids that look like her kids and she gets upset. Like, she's a woman. What the, oh, yeah, I'm just going to say, like, what woman is it? That isn't even a black thing. Welcome to women, bro. Like, like, her.

Her little mulatto quadroon kids look like Palestinian kids. So when you bomb kids that look like her children and then she gets upset and then you're mad that she's upset, bro, are you retarded? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Very, very briefly to Pete, your point about, you know, we wouldn't have these conversations if we didn't at least get the stranglehold on them loosened slightly. And I did like how you point out, no, we may not have Nick Fuentes or et cetera, et cetera, all on Twitter,

but at least we're able to have these conversations. And I want to follow up to that. That's an excellent point. And I want to dovetail that with mine. You don't need a trained psychiatrist to come into you. And I know it's a bit bad choice of words on my part, but just bear with me. You don't need a trained psychiatrist to come in to your house and say, Pete Canonez, you're in an abusive relationship.

what you need is D or Charles or Jose to sit on your porch and have a beer with you and be like, bro, that's fucked up. Your wife did what? No, man, that's not fucked up. That's fucked up. She shouldn't do that. What do you mean you're sleeping in the shed, man?

Yeah, right. That's exactly right. Am I wrong, Dee? Am I like, you just need a buddy to be like, yeah, Pete, that's weird, dude. Wait, you mean my wife shouldn't do X? It's like, um, look, I know all women are crazy. but that's really crazy.

Like that's that's above beyond the pale. And then you'll start figuring it out yourself. You just need to have somebody, most people just need to have somebody open the door. So that I'm sure your wife's a wonderful woman, Pete. I'm just, it's just an example. But the point of saying is like Charles, you know, I'm dated a psycho and not in the far, not in the far past either. So got.

Yeah, like Charles, you know, When the ex keys, you know, I hate love you into your car. Yeah. I go, she did what, Charles? Right. Oh, they don't all do that? No. No, they just badmouthed you on social media and then move on with life.

Right. Like, you need to, you know, right? You know, like that's not normal behavior. Right. And again, this we've, we've spent, you know, two and a half hours here, two hours talking about not normal behavior. Right. And like I said, that's why I just wanted to dovetel that with Pete Stee. And a, and a ton of super like, super air quotes knowledgeable people.

We just need people to just tell each other that's not right. That's not healthy. Right. Well, and for all of these people, right, like the article brought it up. Where are the Jews who will admit that, well, this is, you know, where are the Jews that will admit, you know, where are the Jews that will admit they can, control everything and they're doing a bad job. Where are the Jews that will admit race is real? Where are the Jews that will admit men and women are different? Where are the Jews that will admit free trade doesn't work and free

the free market's bullshit? Where are the Jews that will admit John Cahoon or Carl Schmidt is right? Okay. They don't exist. You can't point to me to a Jew who will tell the truth the way I would tell the truth. Where's the Jewish conference

Catholicism saying, yes, the traditional teaching of the faith is anti-Semitic and it's right to be so. Right. Unless a Jew is a brother Nathaniel tear. I was just going to say, Brother Nathaniel's the one I can think of. Yeah. Right. But I would say, just to be devil's advocate, D. And I'm not trying to be an apologist by any stretch of the imagination. But I would say just a minor, a minor retort to your thing would be they exist, but they're not going to be allowed to speak. because again, it goes back to one reflects all of them, according to their psychopathy. You know, so they don't want to get that ball rolling.

Yeah. And again, I'm not, I'm not being an apologist. I'm just saying. No, no, I understand that. Yeah, yeah, right, right. But, but if these people were, were deal withable, right? If these people were, except, like, could live with other people. Right.

Right. Okay. 15 years, I made this point on that show. Everyone should go relisten to the, race war in high school series. But, okay, Brown v. Board passes in 1904, or 1954, because Jews wanted it to, right? It was all Jewish lawyers. Fifteen years later, the kids that were born in the year Brown v. Board passed, those kids are in American high schools, you know, committing attempted murder on their teachers, lighting their teachers on fire.

Literally. Raping their other. Yeah, yeah. Literally. raping fellow students, sexually assaulting fellow students, right? So not even a full generation after this passes. Did one single Jew go, you know, the entirely Jewish New York public school system go, wow, that was a mistake. We screwed up. We need to reinstit.

Like, we need to go back to Brown v. Board and say, yeah, that was a mistake, fellas. We need to, we need to reinstigestion and we need to do it yesterday. though an honest man would do that. Right. But, you know, whatever's name was, the Jewish president of the union that, that, you know, gets extensively profiled in race war in high school, he didn't do that. Shanker? Was it Shanker?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was who it was. But I'm not, right? Albert Shanker. Yeah. Did Albert Shanker go, oh, my God, I've destroyed public education in America. No, they fortified. No, they took over the union. fortified it so that it couldn't be attacked and basically gave all, gave themselves all raises.

Yeah, that's what they did. That's exactly what they did. That's what the book. That's the craziest thing about that book is. I went into that book thinking, oh, I'm going to learn about this, no, not only did you learn about the violence and the just absolute insanity that integrating the schools caused, but you also, you also found out that the biggest, you know, one of the biggest unions in the country was run and completely consolidated by Jews and that the two-thirds of the teachers in the union were Jewish. Yeah. And you found out that what they did was they just basically fortified themselves as the

leaders of it and took all the money and basically gave it to themselves. Right. Well, and to call back to another show that you've done recently, the show with Keckyulak, What do you think that incoming entitlement's crisis is, but the coming home to roost of all those policies that were instituted in the 70s in reaction to race war in high school? The massive teacher pensions, the, you know, the incredibly bloated state budgets, the entitlement spending. What do you think that all that was? But this, you know, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I. The guys at Myth of the 20th century talked to Mike from Imperium Press about lists theories of economics recently.

Yeah, Friedrich List. Yeah, great episode. Yeah, great episode. Give those guys a listen. They've been friends of mine for a long time. But, right. So Alan Greenspan is sitting there saying the free market, the free market, the free market, the free market, the free market. Well, he's sitting in with buddies with Rand and everything else.

And we're losing the ability to. survive as a country. What do we produce? If we were to get into a war with Russia or China right now, they have larger military, industrial, uh, capability than we do.

You know, like we don't have any shells. You know, Detroit that built all, everyone here listening to knows how I feel about our conduct in World War two, right? But nevertheless,

like, like we built a lot of trucks. 9,800 aircraft went from not too far from me in Montana all the way up through Canada, all the way across Alaska, halfway around the world to the eastern front. 9,800.

On top of everything else that went through the North Atlantic that recent movie with Tom Cruz or Tom Hanks and everything went up through Iran and into the Caucasus, right? You know, tens of millions of tons of supplies that without which the Soviets would have lost the war. That's Joseph Salon saying that, not me.

Right. We've lost the ability to produce that stuff. And the same people who caused us to lose that capability, like Alan Greenspan, like Albert Shanker, by destroying our education system, by destroying an

industrial base, by destroying our monetary system, they're the ones picking a fight with Iran, with China, and with Russia right now. That is the behavior of a crazy person. And so you can't let crazy people. Like if your wife is the sort of woman who will just randomly start shit at a bar on a Friday night, guess what? You don't get to go to bars on Friday nights with your wife.

Right? Like if, you know. Exactly. And I don't, I'm not sure that we would have to make every Jew like out of power and like bar them from power as a matter of course. But it's a good start because I can't think of a single thing that's gone better since they took over in 1950, 1945, whenever it was. I mean, you could probably draw the line in 1913. But being as generous as possible, Knights run number, 1950. when they took over America.

And can you think of one thing that we do better now than we did then besides, you know, technology, which was basically all just a bunch of board Gen X white guys? That's a great point. No. I mean, am I wrong, Pete? You know, like Jose? No, I mean, yeah, it's, you know, we're at a crossroads and people are asking, people are blackpilled. I get that.

It's so easy to be blackbilled. People are looking for a Caesar. People are, they want answers, they want solutions. And really the, I think the easiest thing that we can hope for, not hope for, but, because it just sounds so weird saying it that way, is that I think that with everything that's happening with Israel, and I think that a lot of people may just decide, not that, you know, oh, we need to deport all the Jews, because let's face it, that's not going to happen, but that people are going to become more suspicious,

they're going to distance themselves, they're going to stop doing business with company. There could be a, there could be some kind of eye-opening for people. I mean, I don't see anyone who runs, you know, ran for president, say, that would be the kind of Caesar that would run on a specifically anti-Israel kind of, or anti-Zionists. Let's not even say anti-Jew, anti-Zionists. They're not going to get elected. They're going to get run out. I mean, so much money is going to be thrown at them. I really think it's going to have to be like a decision that people just decide.

to, I don't want to do business with that company if it's Jewish owned, if it's anything like that. I just don't know where else it goes. I don't see, look at the problem we've had in this country for, what, 400 years. We imported a labor force. After it was decided, oh, that labor force, you know, we don't want them anymore. They didn't get rid of them. And look what we have now. And what are the numbers?

Like if, if, if you take black crime out of, if you take crime out of the, yeah, you have the, the crime rate, the, the gun violence of Belgium, you know, of a white, of a white, of a white, homogenous European nation. No one's calling for that. I mean, I just don't know what the answer is at this point. I mean, you're, that that influence needs to people, you know, I mean, I think one of the things that you said, you know, when we were, we were texting back and forth one day, D.E. was, you just have to outlaw usury. You outlaw usury and then, I mean, that's, you need somebody, get someone in there who'd be like, okay, there's no more usury. And then what, I mean. That was you actually. Like, I, well, yeah, that was, that was, that was your first. like, oh, I just outlaw usury. And that would, that would, right?

But again, you know, this is the behavior of a psycho. If, if what you say is true that the Holocaust is the worst thing to ever happen and you're uniquely disturbed people, then like the Canadians and Americans and Brits who saved your lives literally pulled you out of the fire. you would want more Canadians. Instead, who's replacing the Canadians with Indians? Yeah. All those red ends and Canadians who died in droves at Juneau Beach, the Scots, the Irish, the Welsh, the, the Brit, the Anglos, the Ukrainian Canadians.

All of those people who died in droves saving your lives. What's happening to Canada? Who's behind that? It's being destroyed. You can just check out, you know, Ferryman's Toll or Jeremy McKenzie or any of the other number of folks from Canada who, why are you doing that? You know, if these people saved your lives, don't you want them to have like 10 sons? Exactly. Yeah.

Where are the statues? Where are the statues to the American soldiers? Yeah. Why isn't there like a 50-foot high statue to the Great Liberator Patton in, like, Tel Aviv? Here's really demonstrates this this psychopathy of it to me. It's not even the absence of the statues. That's in gratitude. That's a terrible quality, but it's not necessarily psychopathic.

What's psychopathic to me is not the absence of the statues, but now the liberators are lumped in with the perpetrators. I can't even fathom that. Oh, white men are the disease. It's like, wait a minute. I'm sorry, wasn't a white men that saved you? Well, it was white men that was killing us. Okay, but also it was white men that saved you.

Like white men. Hold on a second. That does matter. That absolutely matters. Like the white German men. The white German, ethnically German men who, you know, came from the Midwestern United States to kill their cousins. Yes. That's what I'm saying.

That's, again, I want to be clear to not, I'm going to overstate it so as to not be misunderstood. Yes, I agree. There should be statues. Yes, I agree. There should be gratitude. Yes, I believe those things. But ingratitude is not psychopathy. Lumping your perpetrator in with your

liberator is psychopathy. Right. And of course they lied about we could go all night about revision about what really happened from 1933 to 1940s. Yes, absolutely. But the truth is, right, it doesn't matter when you're dealing with, you know, a BPD woman, what you do.

No matter what you do, she's going to lose her mind, key your car, and blame it on you. It's so funny you say that because I will not go down this rabbit hole, I promise. But that is really what I walked away from this article with was just, and I wrote this on Twitter, for those of you that are interested, you could search for it. That have you ever been in a relationship with a BPD woman? Congrats, you are now. because that's what all of your government, all of your administration is. But I won't go any further with that now.

That's a topic for another day. But you're right, Dee. That's 100%. Right, right. That's 100. Right. Alejandro and Mayarchus is effectively a BPD woman. Yes.

Yep. Exactly. And it doesn't matter. Like, well, Alejandro, like, we took you in from communism and we saved your family. And we, and we allowed you to prosper and allowed you to be wealthy and powerful. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, shouldn't you know, nope. Okay, well, if you're just a Hispanist, supremacist, then, then why are you in charge of, like, if you hate Americans and, you know, you want everywhere to be Cuba, why not go back to Cuba? Like, why are you here?

Right. You don't like it here. You don't like the people here. You don't like their culture. You don't like their religion. You don't like their food. you don't like, you know, why are you here in the first place? You know, if I go to a restaurant and I don't like the staff and the food sucks and I hate the decor and it smells bad, like, I don't go back there and just, you know, sit there complaining, oh, my, you know, I just leave.

I don't spend more time in this place. Just, oh, I hate it here. Oh, man, everything's about this place is awful. Oh, God, the waitresses are ugly. that cooks can't cook and the food's terrible and the decor is awful and the silverware is dirty and i just get up and go man i i don't like oh i don't really like it here i'm gonna you know i'm gonna order my one beer and leave right i and and and you know thank you to pete again once again pete's done the done the coming through the trove of

forbidden documents so you don't have to. And like, this is an incredible find, right? Because this is just what's happening now. You know, who actually, what actually happened on October 7th is a bunch of Jews who were rolling on Molly,

throwing a dance party in someone else's living room, got kicked out of the other person's house by the angry father of the family. Like, why are you doing drugs in front of my children? get out.

And the cops who busted into that guy's house to let their kids throw the dance party inside this guy's house got attacked. And then the insane overreaction of the police department to this domestic is they burned the living room down. Most of the people who were killed on October 7 that were killed by Israeli fire. Now, if you don't pay attention to our sorts of things, you're not going to find out. that like you you want to be rolling on molly when you get you know blown up by your own helicopters right that way it'll sparkle when you get you know like wow the chain gun has such pretty lights

picture you know from the 2012 movie dread where everything's nice and nice and pretty and the yeah well that's what's going on and you know oh god we were crushed a pelvis She was raped at a, what are you talking about? You're crazy. And the more and more people are finally realizing that these people are crazy. The Ben Shapiro is crazy. That Andrew Claven is crazy. That all the Shabos Goyim, like Eric Erickson, are crazy.

That all of these people are dishonest, insane, or both. And that's their biggest fear in the world is, Some like Pete Canones gets instead of Chuck Todd the Jew, if Pete Canones ran, you know, meet the press, you'd actually learn something. And that's what they're terrified of. They are terrified that if the media actually informed you to the truth of what's going on, that's their biggest fear. Yep. Yep. They don't want an abused relationship. Exactly. Yeah. Well, we've been going for over two and a half hours. Let's, um, let's, um, let's end it right there. I'll give everybody a chance to, to do a closing, uh, closing statement or whatever, um, you want to do. So, um, let's start with Jose. Cause Jose's been, uh, the quietest, uh, among us. Yeah, I, um, I've come to, like the realization of this that say what you want about social media and, there's plenty of criticism on my end about it,

but it just has not been in the social media era. It has not been kind to Israel and organized jury. And I liken this to, I'm eluding to a speech that John Meersheimer gave, like I think almost a decade ago, where he talked about how the rise of social media has made it, like incredibly difficult for countries like Israel to get away with its mistreatment of the Palestinian people. And it was just only a matter of time before this became, um, mainstream, like

criticizing Israel now because there, there's clearly an act of desperation on the part of a lot of Jewish interests now to censor any criticism of Israel or any type of criticism of organized Jewry altogether online or in meat space. And this is clearly a case of them fearing that like there is something brewing. And we mentioned in our discussion about Candace Owens. There is like a really peculiar trend now among black conservatives. They're revolting against Zionism as well. When you had like Jason Whitlock of all people bring on E. Michael Jones.

and then the Hodge twins, like those of YouTube, like fitness influencers turn MAGA people. It's getting really out of control. And we are in a watershed moment that is one of like the most like unpredictable times of like contemporary political history that I think is very fascinating. I'm one of like the more like cynical types. But I am excited to see both domestically and geopolitically. and geopolitically how things unfold because we are on the cusp of a massive paradigm shift and it's going to be entertaining to say the least. Charles?

Yeah, just a couple of very quick thoughts I want to build off of what Jose said. There's an old saw, forgive me, I'm going to, I know I'm going to butcher it, but I believe the audience and you gentlemen will get the point. There's an old saw that goes something along the lines of a lie makes its way around the world faster than the truth can get its trousers on. Well, the good news is that with the information age that we have now and the technology that's available to us now, we can get our trousers on faster than ever,

and it can be moved around. And we don't, as I said earlier, we don't need an intellectual Caesar to tell us we're in trouble. We just need to see that we're, that for ourselves. As I've said many, many times, and Jose and I can discuss this one day, perhaps, together on his program.

As I said many, many times, Facebook did more to help the Manosphere than the Manosphere did itself. By women just showing their behaviors openly on Facebook, it made every guy realize, you know, the girl just didn't treat me that way. Women treat men that way everywhere.

So men were able to form healthier relationships from that. Maybe some of them made the choice to simply not get in relationships at all, which I think is a mistake, but they at least avoided abusive relationships. And I think that's what we're seeing here. We're seeing just that information, that truth, get out faster and faster. And if I can boil it down to just one line, I would say, while the Internet proliferated profane nudity,

it also proliferated naked truth. And we should be grateful for the latter. The, I just couple, yeah, I completely agree with Charles's point. And what's interesting about, again, the system is not running well. And what Candice Owens or the Hodgstrands or whatever, they've realized that they're being replaced as, you know, America's unparachive underclass that occasionally works by, you know, Hispanics and others. And they're upset about that. And that's why you're seeing the rebellion. You know, that's why you're seeing the blacks in Chicago

complain about all this stuff given to immigrants. Stephen A. Smith, who's a vilely anti-white man, you know, complain about all this free stuff given to immigrants. But it's that naked truth that's getting out there that is our greatest weapon. And I would just encourage people to, you know, follow the people that care about you, whether that's Jose Substack or Pete Substack or, you know,

kick him both a couple bucks, buy Charles's books. I bought both Charles's books, you know, and continue to support the people that don't lie to you. You know, if you have a boomer friend who's, you know, loves the Daily Wire, just show them these lies that the Daily Wire is responsible for. You don't need to get them to Pete. But if you turn them two notches to, you know, maybe, maybe get them off a Daily Wire and onto Tucker.

And, you know, move them. Darrell, like Darrell Cooper, get him to martyr made. Yes. Yeah. You know, Darrell's great. Listen to Darrell's series about Israel and the whole war there. And he's very fair to both sides. You know, he doesn't shy away from the atrocities committed by Yasser Arafat,

but he also doesn't say that Musha Dayan was a saint because neither of those things are true. You know, Daryl was remarkably even-handed with that whole series, and it's like seven hours long. It's really depressing. I had to cut it up into like three or four different chunks because I couldn't handle it. but, you know, it is important to tell the truth. And the only people doing that right now across the board are people that are, you know, dissidents. I would just promote that this is my third show in two days.

I did a third rail yesterday and I did another episode of National Institute for Game Review. Both those can be found at the right stuff. That biz. And then, of course, there's my telegram and stuff. But, you know, if you don't like me, if you don't like what I put out, find someone else who's telling you the truth about these issues and support them. That's all I would ask for people is, you know, support the people telling the truth. And, you know, free man who all be on the wall slash donate, I think is the correct. But, you know, I kick Pete a couple bucks every month because I, not just because Pete's my friend, but because I believe in the mission that Pete is doing.

Pete's not my friend. Pete is my friend because I believe in the mission. And I just want to thank him for once again unearthing a text that I never would have found on my own that's, you know, worth it's weight in gold. And I want to thank the Twitter rando who pointed it, pointed me to it because I didn't know it existed until someone randomly on Twitter and Anon was like,

here, check this out. And I read it and I was like, wow. Okay. I think, you know, my audience needs to hear this. And, you know, I will say this, that I had someone contact me and say, you know, this is somebody who's a little more mainstream, but, you know, still somebody I'm friendly with and said, I read it to my wife. I wanted my wife to hear this because, you know, it's in their own words. And, you know, it's something that they needed to hear.

So I just want to thank all of you. until the next time, next month. We'll come back with another one. And hopefully we can outdo ourselves every time. Hopefully we just keep getting better and better. But I do want to thank you all. And we'll thank everyone for listening. And yeah, keep your heads up, white pills only.

And just prepare. prepare for what you need to do to get through this. And hopefully I'm helping. Hopefully I can add a little bit of help with that. And you're always free, everyone's always free to reach out to me. So thank you, gentlemen, and thank everyone for listening.

Thank you, Pete. Guys, we're not even going to do introductions. I'm sure everybody knows all you all by now. But, D.E., do you want to jump into, like, a two minutes of hate already? Sure. I subscribe to Roger Substack so you don't have to

listeners Pay Pete as recompense for my pain, please So for those of you who Don't know or didn't pay attention The last old Glory Club live stream South Baton Rouge

Just seceded from Baton Rouge And is going to call itself St. George And Roger used to actually live in what is now St. George and I first started following Rod about 20 years ago when he was still at National Review and National Review was still worth a damn because Derbyshire was still there and others. And even then, you got the sense that Roger

understood that Christianity and liberalism are incompatible, but it made him really uncomfortable. And he published like this several thousand word piece about how St. George is like this, like, failure of the Civil Rights Act and what are we going to do, like the people who don't want their kids beaten up or raped in school aren't villains but also what about the poor the poor children and the dysfunction and and his father was a

clansman and um and very contentious like rod wrote about this bunch um the cowardice of the conservative establishment to just admit that the old right was right is going to doom this country. Has doomed this country, but yes. It has doomed this country. Thank you for the correct, Charles. That later, I had an conversation with someone who's very senior in aviation,

and it's bad. But, um, the, you know, Roger was like the absolute right edge of the Overton window for many, many years. And his refusal to just acknowledge the facts.

Race war at high school came out in the 70s. I was just about to say, Dee, not to cut off your train of thought, but I wasn't being pedantic and jumping on you about that correction. That was not pedanticism. Please don't take that as such. I was going to make the exact point you're making now, which is race war in high school was talking about as far back as 1969 or 1971, whichever date you choose to use because it mentions both. And that is more than 50 years ago. So this is not a new problem. Even most of Gen X or, yeah, I would say most, a significant percentage of Gen X has been living with this forever.

That's how old this problem is. So please continue. That's what I was just trying to draw. And Rod's almost 60. So he's an older Gen Xer. I'm like the tail and Charlie of Gen Xers. So we got a bunch of cynical Gen Xers here. There's just four cynical Gen Xers complaining about the world, right?

That's the show. Yes. But there is absolutely no way that Rod Dreher or Rich Lowry or Jonah Goldberg or anyone else on the establishment right doesn't know this is true because it's been common knowledge for half a century. Right. I mean, and no and the point that I think that you've made many times and a bare. repeating. I don't blame you for for banging the drum repeatedly because it bears repeating.

And inculcation is the really only way you can get people to understand things anymore with the bombardering of information. And that is that these problems have been around for a while. One of your go-to lines, and this is the drum you beat constantly and rightly so, is X knows, and when I say X, I'm not referring to Generation X. I mean random individual, pundit or writer or speaker, what have you. knows what we know. How many times have you said that day? A thousand, two thousand, three thousand. You know, X knows what we know. They just don't want to admit it because they want to be allowed to go to their cocktail parties. They want to go, they want the money. They want the prestige, whatever.

They don't care that their societies falling apart. They don't care that most people can't walk the streets at night. They don't care that kids aren't getting any kind of education. They just don't care. They took the ticket and they're going to and they're going to let Mammon give them a comfort life, and then we all have to pay the devil because we're stuck on the same hellbound ride. I think something that I've really been examining recently as far as my own thoughts and basically looking at society is Cryptos, who I had on the podcast recently, talks about, I guess he had a professor who talked about first and second order disagreements. and first order disagreement would be like us for here, we have a disagreement and we're going to

work it out because we come from the same foundation. Foundationally, we're all in the same place. If we have a disagreement, even if it doesn't, even if we don't come to an agreement on it, we'll just be like, well, that's just one thing we had disagree on. But it's fine. when you're dealing with this situation, where you're dealing with a situation like St. George, when you're dealing with a situation like Baton Rouge, when you're dealing with a situation like how do you live with a people who fundamentally just don't know how to act?

It's a second order disagreement. And a second order disagreement means that these are people who you have no foundation with. There's no argument to be had. There's no discussion to be had. There's no debate to be had. You just have to separate from them. You have to do whatever you did. What was it?

Greg Hood had that great tweet about how all the Civil Rights Act was, basically what the Civil Rights Act did was it created a world where all you're doing is trying to escape from the, from everything that the Civil Rights Act has created. And you're trying to hide the fact that you're trying to escape. from all of the hell that the Civil Rights Act has created. And that's basically where we're at. When you look at something like St. George and Baton Rouge, it's a second-order disagreement. No more conversations, no more debate.

We have to split from each other or bad things are going to happen. Right. And people have been convinced by, you know, democracy or the enlightenment or the Renaissance that, well, you know, you. You know, as long as we talk it out, we can just, man, we just keep talking it out. We'll come to the, we'll, we'll meet in a place where everybody's happy. No, no. Well, I mean, there's a, there's a couple.

Go ahead, Dee, go ahead. A certain value of like, we'll talk it out. Like, if, if you can find the conversation to 120 IQ plus Whiteman, yeah, which was what the conversation was confined to until, like, 1950. Right. Right. Because you're dealing with ideas that a lot of. lot of people can't process. And even if they could, like, let's just let's let me step that back just a bit. Let me not, not be condescending unintentionally, but let me not be condescending.

Well, remember to kind of go back to your first point, Pete, about the first and order, second order disagreements. The second order disagreement is so completely that gap is so completely unbridgeable because as you said, they don't share a foundation. We don't share a lexicon even with these people. We literally don't even speak the same language. Now, when I. say that, I don't mean we don't mean we may not speak English, although the argument could be made, we don't actually both speak English. But what I'm saying is our glossary, our lexicon, our vulgarago, if you will, is just completely different. We don't, we don't even understand the words that the other is using. So how can you have, how can you come into an agreement if you don't even know what any of the words mean that the other person is saying? It's just impossible. And when you say we have to break away, that I agree with you completely. Because you know what follows a second order disagreement. You know what follows a second order disagreement on its very heels. And that's physical violence.

Because what was it, Louis XIV. I think what did he have written on his canons, the last argument of kings? That's what's going to happen now. That's the Rivers of Blood speech that D has referenced many times. When you get to this point, violence is sure to follow. I'm not sitting here advocating violence necessarily, but I am saying that's an inevitability. And I've said it on Twitter and I stand by it.

If we can't share the foundation, as you mentioned, Pete, if we can't share a lexicon, then there's no way around it. That's just simply what's going to happen. Go ahead, D, if you want to continue. I'm interested in what Jose and Pete have to say. I want to go back to a point that D raised, with respect to the old right. And I want to tie it in with Rod Dreher

because I remember quite vividly right when I was getting into politics that the American conservative around 07 was one of the blogs that I was frequenting a lot. And it is not a coincidence that like in 2008-2009 when Rod Dreher was starting to blog at the American Conservative that the American Conservative

just started to gradually go to shit. They used to feature people from like Steve Saylor, even Ron Unz and Roger McGrath that were talking a lot of like non-PC stuff. And then eventually a lot of those publisher and it was founded by Tacky and Pat Buchanan. Yep, exactly. And the, um,

And that was like one of like the last vestiges of like the old right when it came to like a public a respectable publication that had a decent readership and was able to get like some degree of mainstream dissemination. But when he arrived, that was in my opinion looking back like a turning point where the American conservative just got progressively more and more just cucked and mainstream. so-called respectable. And from that point forward, I just stopped, like, reading. What I will, coming back to St. George and Baton Rouge, separation is important, okay? Basically, what these people are doing is they are escaping violence. They're escaping, you know, the worst, everybody's nightmare that you live in a place where you don't know, whether a bullet's going to fly through the window at night or in a day or in the morning,

into a crib. This is what they're escaping. But really, it's not enough. When you make this kind of escape, then you have to fortify. Then you have to go, you have to basically go on the offensive. And you have to say, we've escaped. There's people that just can't come here. You know, my wife and I talk, my wife and I have talked all the time because, you know, we live in

Alabama. There's a lot of black people here. You know, none of my neighbor, I don't really have neighbors, but nobody in my general, there's no black people in my general vicinity. You have to drive for miles. And my wife asked me one day, she's like, well, we know a lot of really nice black people here. You wouldn't mind living next door to them, right? And I'm like, yeah, here's the problem. What happens when their nephew Pookie comes over to visit? I was going to say, everyone got a cousin Pookie. Well, yeah, what happens when what happens when their grandson comes over to visit, if St. George doesn't go on the offensive now and decides to fortify and decides to say, you know, hey, maybe this is some gigantic HOA now,

and certain people can't come in, you've already seen, as soon as this happened, they were like, these people are racist, they started comparing them to the clan, they started invoking all of these things. they're going to send people in there. They will, these people are malicious. They're animals, okay? And I'm not even talking about the people they'll send in there. I'm talking about the organizers that'll do this.

And we know who I'm talking about. Well, speaking to that, I personally lived that. When I was growing up in New Jersey, I was, my dad was born or raised in Camden. And then I'm sure you have an idea of what Camden is. like, especially now. Well, when I was growing up there, I went to a Catholic school in the area, and all of my friends around, I want to say sixth, seventh grade, all of my friends were moving away. Now that they were getting out of the school and they were moving away. I was in the very center of what we now call white flight. And another facet, I can tell you, I co-sign everything

you say, Pete, this isn't to disagree with you. This is to yes and you. And that is to say, it, I was there. So not only do you, yes, you do need to fortify, but one of the other reasons you need to fortify is if you don't, you're only going to keep running because all those people moved and then 20, 25 years later, they had to move again. Because again, that all you're doing is seeding ground. I don't mean S-E-E-D. I mean seeding, CED. And that's what ends up happening. If you don't fortify, then you just have to move out of that suburb, and then the next suburb. And then next, D's talked about the whole reason the creation of the creation of the suburbs. But that's one of the reasons you're correct is that you have to fortify it because you're just going to continually, you're going to continue to lose ground.

And one last thing I want to say, well, one more thing I'm going to say on the point is you bring up the HOAs. The HOAs, it's like that's, it's basically the only way you can get around. Shelly v. Kramer. This is a discussion D. and I've had for a long time. It's basically the modern moat. It's the modern moat of, we won't let you in our town because we give standards that these people can't maintain. That's how they get around Shelley v. Kramer. They don't say, oh, you're not allowed in here because you're the wrong religion. You're the wrong skin tone. They put these standards that a lot of these people just simply can't or won't maintain. And that's how they keep them out. And again, that's why they get called. racist because they hold these people to a standard. But that's, that's, that's, that's exactly how they get around, Shelly B. Kramer. And the last point I'll raise on this, when we talked about the Civil Rights Act and how they, a lot of these people are fleeing its, it's, uh, it's the fallout from it. That's one thing I've said for years is what's the first thing. And I'll use this as an example, although there are many. What's the first thing black athletes do when they make it big, when they

get signed to the Chicago Bulls, you know, or a major football team. What's the first thing they do? Find a white girl or move? Move to a white neighborhood. That's exactly what they do. They move to a white neighborhood. That's the first thing they do. So it's the ultimate irony that the first thing the beneficiaries do, the beneficiaries of

the civil rights movement do, is escape the results of the civil rights movement. That's what cracks me up about. And I know I keep saying, I have one more point, but I just keep thinking of these things. I don't know if you saw any of you saw this a little while ago, maybe a month or two ago, there was a video going around. I know, Dee, we had talked about this of a black community bemoaning the fact that illegal immigrants were flooding their town. Dee, do you remember us discussing this particular? Yeah, yeah, I remember.

Yeah. And there was one elderly black woman on it that was saying, oh, we have to, we have to refuse to sell our houses. to these people because they're ruining our neighborhood. We have to band together and refuse to sell our houses to these people. And I mean, I just couldn't, I couldn't hit forward to D fast enough. I couldn't hit forward to D fast enough. Yeah, that's one of those ironies that's so painful, it's hilarious. I think the first thing that I ever, you know, that's been years and I've been off Twitter for a long time,

but the first thing that really made the rounds that I ever said is what is moving one exit down the highway doesn't solve your point. problems. Mm-hmm. And that's basically what this is done. And I will bring up something else and tie this in. So like Charles just said, it's 20, 25 years later and you've turned a bunch of farmland that could be growing food and promoting nationalism and autarky and other good things, providing local jobs.

And, you know, like the chief economic activity of the state. to Georgia for the last 35 years or 40 years or 50 years has been running away from Atlanta. The suburbs of Atlanta touch four states now. There are people who commute from eastern Tennessee, western South Carolina, and North Alabama into Atlanta every day. Am I wrong, Pete? Oh, yeah. What's even, Atlanta's really odd, too, because so much gentrification has happened inside

Atlanta that in 2008 when Katrina happened, basically we got overrun with people who had moved from there. And I was living outside of Atlanta, probably like 15 miles outside of 285. We actually moved into Atlanta to get away from them. We actually had to move into the city to get away from them. And, you know, there's a reason why Cobb County forever and ever and ever didn't want Marta coming there. They didn't want a moving after the train coming there. Yeah.

For those of you who didn't listen to it, I strongly recommend you both pick up the book, Black Mecca Down by Paul Kersey from Analop Hill Publishing and listen to Pete's conversation with Paul Kersey. Paul Cursey has not only been a hero for our thing for a long time, but Black Mecca Down is just a total indictment of what we're talking about. And he's been ready for years and years. So I strongly endorse, I think it was on your show, Pete, where you talked to Paul,

but it was really, really good conversation. But a couple days ago, while we were setting this up, I was at work, and I happened to talk to someone who was very, very senior in aviation outside a little airport, like gravel strip type place. I was making some deliveries and ended up talking to this guy for 15, 20 minutes. This guy used to be a senior engineer at Boeing and then decided he hated it because of all the DEI stuff. Do you realize that they are letting people into the left seat, the captain's chair, on commercial aircraft with 500 hours flying time at major U.S. Airlines now? That's insane.

I mean, what is it? you, what is it, 125 to get your license or how much is it? I don't remember. I don't know. I haven't kept up on the, but, but right, major U.S. Airlines in order to

diversify the cockpit, right? Or add more women. And, at rate your congressman, this is why we were talking, is, uh, the Commerce Committee is considering

not extending the ability for pilots, like mandatory retirement for pilots at 65 and not moving up to 67 as the pilots unions want because frankly there's a lot of 64-year-old guys who are, you know, being 64 now is not like being 64 in 1970, right?

Right. So a lot of these guys could continue to fly until there's 67 or even 70. But there's just not, and this guy was a boomer. So I couldn't get him to understand that like the abilities and talents necessary to be a pilot, good reflexes, good eyesight, high spatial awareness, high mathematical ability, ability to stay calm, right?

Like all of these things that are required to be a commercial airline pilot are not evenly distributed across the population. So here's what it is. Private pilot license is 40 hours. Commercial pilot licenses 250, 250 hours. Airline transport pilot certificate is 1,500. And you're saying the transport pilot would be knocked down to 500? Yeah.

This could be completely wrong, and I have no idea. But this guy is a senior guy. And I have no reason to admit that, you know, no reason to think that this guy was BSing me. But he, I think one of the, I have a buddy who works for FedEx and he's a pilot for FedEx. And I think the problem that we have is, it's very easy to blame a lot of this on DEI and, and I do blame a lot of it on DEI. But there's also the fact that these planes fly themselves. They take off and land by themselves. The pilot is only there in the case of like a very, you know, a commercial plane.

in case something goes wrong. But here's the thing. If something goes wrong, you want the best person there. I remember growing up, my dad would tell me about how most commercial, like, Delta only wanted people who were like fighter pilots or who flew in the military. Because they've flown under stress. They've landed on ships. You know, they've landed on a carrier. And, yeah, I mean, now it's like you don't know.

you don't know. United were two of the airlines you mentioned that were that were lowering standards. Right. Yeah. I want my pilot to be between 40 and 60, has some gray in his hair, look like the aviators

have been welded on his face, and I want him to, you know, like have either gone to Annapolis or, you know, Colorado Springs and been a pilot, you know, for the Navy, the Marine Corps, or the Air Force, or like a Bush pilot or something.

And I bring this up only because this particular guy knew I was just in aviation and infrastructure generally. And I talked to him about some of the groundside stuff. You know, with all the stuff that's happened at Boeing, right? We're fundamentally the problem. Suicide too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

I love Hillary Clinton. I love Bill Clinton. I think nothing but the goodest things about both of them. And, uh, and, uh, right, you know, I'm, I'm not suicidal. Anyway, what a whole bunch of people, right, the people who go through high school in North Baton Rouge and graduate being semi-illiterate at best, right? They have no idea what it's like to have the machine. a jet engine to tens of thousands of an inch moving at thousands of r pms where if even the slightest thing has been off the whole thing explodes and there's millions of things like that and literally millions all across our society chemical processes the way the roads work the way electricity works like go and as pizza

said, you know, you have to fortify. Okay. You're, you're going to, certain places are going to be non-viable. Right. When one out of 10 flights to Hawaii ends up in the Pacific or even one out of 20, are people going to go to Hawaii anymore? Well, I mean, no one's going to go to Hawaii. If there's a one in 25 chance, your pilot is named Shinikwa and has five inch long nails

and doesn't know how to fly a plane. Like, you're just not going to go. because it's only going to take one or two. That's happening already, not to cut you off. That's happening already. Just talk to people. You'll find more and more saying, I don't really like flying.

I don't really feel safe flying anymore. And I don't know if it's a conscious decision on these people's parts as far as, when I say conscious, I mean the sense of, I guess I should say informed rather than conscious. I don't know if it's a fully informed opinion on these people's parts or not. But I'm encountering that more and more and more. with increasing frequency.

I'm counting. People say, I just don't want to fly. And to step back very briefly to your point, Pete, earlier, about planes fly themselves now. I can tell you personally that when I was working for immigration, when I was a badge and gun officer, one of the pilots I used to meet regularly told me that those exact words, and this is 25 years ago, maybe even 26, that he said, oh, these things fly themselves now. These things fly. I'm only there in case of a problem.

But in a way, to me, that that justifies even further why you want the best qualified people, like the ones you were saying, D, about the whole, you want the aviators basically welded to their face, guys that have done all that. Because that's what they are there for. You're right. They aren't there to fly the plane. The plane flies itself. They're there for when it all goes wrong.

And that's not what we're staffing for. we're staffing for the plane flies itself, not staffing for the plane flies itself, but you're there. That's not your job. Your job is to deal with it in crisis, and we're not hiring people to deal with it in crisis. In fact, I would posit that we're probably hiring the worst people to deal with a crisis possible, which is women. Those are the people you absolutely do not want in a crisis, because the first thing they're going to do is look to the person next to them and go, get me out of this. because that's what they do. That's just what they do.

Matt, I'm not to go too far down to tangent, but I still remember, God, this has got to be 10 years ago now. A gal I was involved with a long time ago texted me. And she said, you know, I'm watching a horror movie. And I'm always wondering, why do women just wander off and get murdered in these films? Like, why does this always happen? But why does it always still feel real to me? Why am I always still scared for? Why does it always feel like something I do?

And I said, well, it's easy. Because over the long course of human history, and I don't mean since 1960, I mean the long course of human history, when women did dumb shit like that, they would either get killed or a man would come and save them. Neither outcome means they learned a lesson. Yeah, like they have such poor. They'll choose a bear over a random dude. exactly you're right yeah it's like okay i i i live in the woods in the pacific northwest and uh i used to

work in canada in the mackenzie river delta so i have seen all three north american bears um in the wild they're terrifying they're scary a grizzly is the size of a car has paws like dinner plates claws like steak knives it smells like death from 20 paces like death and musk it's got teeth like five-inch teeth it's strong enough to

like literally rip your head off oh by the way it can also outrun a horse and can smell your sandwich from like two miles away and I'm perfectly fine with a world where women just have no idea what bears are actually like that's fine

That's actually a good world. But if you don't have any idea of what a bear is like, you shouldn't be making any decisions about bears. And yes, exactly right. This is the sort of world we live in, right? And, you know, for people who aren't as online as we are, why don't it should explain what you're talking about? Okay. So apparently, I'm not on Twitter, but I'm on enough telegram channels that talk about Twitter or had Twitter. that like this thing went around Twitter of you know some woman asked like would you rather if you were just in the woods by yourself

um would you rather run into a random man or a bear and a bunch of these women chose bears and a bunch of guys are like what is wrong with you and they're like you know they were doing the whole like until you understand like why we're afraid of man and don't like and then like don't judge us for like understanding the bear because we're like doing risk it out like first of all we're erases the guy second um yeah exactly right right and you know there's like I saw some woman on TikTok like basically just making fun of her husband because he was like well what kind of bear is it and you know um you know is this like like some random little girl like I would try to help her and trying to get her unlost and like like like do you know do you have a phone what your daddy's cell phone number like all you know like basic good man dad stuff

and this woman was like trying to like basically mock her husband for a TikTok point. But right, if you don't understand the consequences of what being next to a bear that wants you to die is, you should make decision about bears. If you don't understand just how difficult it is to manufacture an airplane engine or build a runway or fly a plane plane, you shouldn't make any decisions about planes. And this is, right, so to Pete's point earlier about defense, the problem with conservatives is they'll admit that like, oh, well, we can't fly planes like this.

We have to have people who know what they're doing. They have to have, you know, thousands of hours. They have to know what, you know, they have to be, you know, they have to have, you know, to use Tom Wolves phrase, the right stuff. Right. And not everyone can do that. In fact, very few people can do that.

and so we need those people who are capable of doing that in those spots right um you know it came out relatively recently that that uh someone at Boeing I can't remember which CEO but about 10 15 years ago fired all the quote phenomenally talented assholes unquote who only cared about making planes the best planes in the world and the guy I was talking to, worked at Boeing when there were those phenomenally talented assholes. And what would happen in those days is there'd be a guy who, you know, blue-collar guy who maybe drank too much on the weekends, wasn't exactly this sort of guy you could, you know, bring to a cocktail party. But he played the, he worked the drill press like a strad of areas.

And he was like the world's best drill press operator. And he could just like hear the metal and like he understood it right and that guy by virtue of his skill and talent and hard work could walk up to a junior engineer with plans and say this is wrong and i don't care about your degree or this or that this is this is wrong and you need to fix it and the senior engineers and senior management knew that that guy call him larry right, the shop foreman and whatever, like had the experience. And that if he was upstairs, you know, with his dirty coveralls and, you know, greasy fingers and, you know, if he was upstairs, there was a major problem.

And Larry wasn't the, Larry wasn't the problem. Whatever caused Larry to come upstairs was the problem. And women, oh, why is Larry upsetting the status hierarchy? Doesn't he know he's a pleb who's supposed to stay downstairs? Hmm. Yeah, right? Well, I went to college. What's this white boy doing trying to tell me what to do?

Well, maybe. Larry the Rivet guy is a genius at Rivets. And maybe you don't know what you're talking about because you just got out of college. And you haven't got the 10 years of experience that are required to really know what's going on. Maybe you haven't had beers with Larry just to ask him, like, what should I learn as an engineer engineer? Maybe the guys in management, as opposed to chasing a 1% higher profit, when they used to be engineers, used to say, you know what, it's okay. We got to stay profitable, but we got to make sure that we retain the guys that can actually do the work. You know, rather than saving a bunch of money, we're going to plow some of those profits into Votech programs.

so that we have the guys who can bend the sheet metal, do the rivets, work the machines. And across all domains of our society, you see this. And I only bring this up because it's of an interest of mine and it's relevant at the moment. Conservatives will identify the problem, but they fail to fortify. And they fail to say, you know what, actually,

white supremacist airlines would just function better because we're not wasting any time trying to find the one black person in 10,000 who's actually going to be worth it. We're just going to say, ah, we get 200 slots. Find us, find us the 200 best white guys. And there might be one or two black guys that, you know, unjustly get sorted out. But they'll be fine. Intelligent, well-socialized bracts to use a, to use John Devers's phrase, are the most high demand commodity in America. A guy who is capable of being an airline pilot's capable of a whole lot of other stuff.

He can do something else. and, you know, women in blacks and other people, they don't see, you know, going into the sim on weekends. They don't see all the stress. They just see, like, cool uniform, lots of money, get to travel. I want that job. You know, I want to be a doctor and a lawyer. And you need, like, the point of this program is, point of our thing, the point of old glory club

is to put the ability to actually defend yourselves, not just point out the problems, but actually defend yourselves and defend our civilization in terms that people can understand. Now, I'm bad at some of that stuff because frankly, I just want to swear and use slurs a lot.

I get mad. But like Old Glory Club does this better than anybody. And Pete does a really fantastic job of this and Jose does a really fantastic job of this of like explaining in terms that the average American can understand why colorblind meritocracy and classical liberalism aren't sufficient. Until you can say, look, I don't, you know, this one happy black kid who really cares about his education in North Baton Rouge, she wants to come down to St. George for his schooling because he actually wants to learn.

I can't make exceptions. Sorry, this is a whites-only school district. Because once we make one exception, there's going to be a bunch of others. Conservatives are incapable of understanding that there's always going to be an exception, and you have to be sovereign. You have to be the guy that decides the exceptions. And I don't think that until our ordinary people, understand this, they're not going to make any progress.

So you're going to see planes fall out of the sky. You're going to see people get shot at schools. You're going to see old people get beat up in public. You're going to see all kinds of stuff, you know, riots on campuses because people are incapable of being honest about the real issues and affirmatively defending their right to exist and the right to a functioning society. Well, Jose, you guys. anything to add to that? Because I think

we hit this pretty hard and I want to move on to the next topic because it's going to be a doozy. So you have anything more to add to that, Jose? Well, I think this goes back to

something I've been saying of how if you don't understand the Shelley versus Kramer and the subsequent went civil rights revolution. You're just not going to get politics like an mess in this

multi-racial open-air prison. And even when you see these victories with St. George happen, the modern day conservative movement is going to just follow up on them with like some of like the stupidest causes, like say, school choice. for example and it is essentially make these areas try to like contaminate these areas through diversity

and bringing in all these other people and it's just like a very predictable cycle and the way we break this cycle is quite simple is just by going straight to the root point out why the civil rights revolution opened this talk about Shelley versus Kramer which is something that you will not hear not even like some of these so-called based MAGA influencers and whatnot talk about.

So I think it's like very important to keep stressing this point because as a old political mentor's what said, repetition is the key to learning. Just one real quick point. Then we'll move on the next. Just very quick regarding the point about these guys that, what was the phrase? you used D from the article, these assholes that just built better planes, that sort of thing. Remember, a lot of these guys get into that trade, that machining and stuff. And I know this personally, because I have friends in those industries.

Remember, a lot of these guys get into it because they aren't good with people. They're not interested in being good with people. They like machines. They like that they can get metal to bend. They like that there are rules. And I hate to use this term because I think it's overused and I think it's, I don't think it's the best way to say things, but it'll do for now because we do want to move on. They have a very autistic view of things.

They like rules. They like that these things work. They like that there are physical laws. And that's why they come across as assholes to a lot of people. But remember that these two things are inextricably linked. The ability to machine these things within such a low tolerance, these abilities to do these things, these complicated, processes is because they don't want to deal with people. They're not interested in dealing with people. That's not where their skill set lies and it's not a skill set. They care to even develop.

So remember, those two points are inextricably linked. And when you get rid of the thing you don't want, it's a very, very dangerous proposition because you may get rid of the things you do. All right. Well, DE brought up the topic of a debate that happened recently. and it was on, I think it was hosted by Zero Hedge, and it was the debate about Israel, Iran, Palestine. That was, on one side was Chank Yugar and Dave Smith, and on the other side was Dennis Prager and Batya Unger Sargon. And, yeah, I guess we thought we would discuss the,

the meat of the debate, the topic of the debate, and what we heard in the debate. So who wants to go first? I'll just be very brief because I've talked plenty enough, but I want to bring up two or three points real quick. There are four non-Americans talking about, and I like Dave Smith. I subscribe to his podcast, but he's not an American. He's Jewish, right? And Tink, Chink Wager, do whatever his name is. He's a Turk.

Batsha Ungar Sargon. There's very little information about her on the internet, so that gives me some bad vibes. But she's supposedly born in Gaza to a Palestinian and Indian parents. So she's two different flavors of a non-American, and Dennis Pratt is Jewish. Why are these people telling me what I have to do in my country? That's my first point. And the second thing is, I think Pete and I talked about this on a separate program,

but the sheer inability of Dennis Prager to see the others point, you know, constantly, oh, if the Palestinians lay down their arms, they'd be peace immediately. You know, the Jews just want peace, Jews just what peace, Jews just what peace. Jews just what peace. I don't, I don't think Dennis

Prager's lying. I think he's literally incapable of seeing the other side. Like, he's not capable of understanding that these people have been in prison, that their families have been destroyed, that they've been, you know, pushed out of their homes, and they're fighting back.

And that's perfectly legitimate. I literally don't think Dennis is capable of enough empathy to understand these people's point. And again, that's a second order to discriminate. There's no way to, like, live with this. And so why is this the terms of the, debate for non-Americans talking about what my country needs to do and they're literally incapable of of a first-order disagreement on this issue it's all second-order

disagreements what the hell let me let me let me push back a little bit here because that's what we're here for the argument could be made that neither neither Jose nor I are Americans my neither side of my family had any part in the founding I can find very little information about my one side of the family I know was here during the Civil War, whether they fought which side they would have fought on. So, yeah, how come Jose and I would be considered Americans? But like someone like Dave Smith, who we think is a good person, why he wouldn't. You're both white Christians?

I'm part white. Yeah. So do we do we do the do we do the like I what I say about myself is is that I'm not a heritage American. I'm an American citizen basically because that's how my family wasn't here at the founding or I forget how somebody I heard somebody describe Heritage American the other day but it wasn't Well, if your family was here in this civil war, then you've got a pretty good claim to being American. What I think is more telling that Adi mentions here is that in these type of debates, there's just nobody like, no white person that's allowed to get into these debates to have any input whatsoever. whether it's a Catholic, ethnic, much less like founding stock American, it is absolutely bizarre. And like there's going to be also like if you want to get like a nuanced perspective, if you need people like honestly like people from like TRS to be on there.

But no, they're not going to let that happen. Like the so called like anti-Israel position is going to be this kosher approved pro-Palestinian like Jew or something like that. whether it's like Dave Smith to like Norman Finkels, and you're not going to get like an actual nuance perspective from an anti-Israeli white that's coming from like TRS Occidental Observer or that type of network. And I'll give you the, I'll give you one example from the debate that I thought was,

was telling to me that Dave Northshank jumped on, which I would have jumped on. Any one of us would have jumped on. Dave brought up the Dyer-Hassan massacre, and immediately Prager said, that was in 1948. Now, let me ask you, any one of you, if he would have said,

basically, why are you bringing up old shit? What would you guys have responded? Oswald was in 1943, dude. Why are you so but-heard about it? Yep. Yep, exactly. What if it? Chryskelnacht was 19, what, 1937?

1930 something like that okay why why are we still talking about that if we're if we're going to put a time an expiration date on these things yeah let's let's do it all the way i yeah when you meant when you mentioned the king david hotel bombing well i mean there is obviously that there's a statute of limitations on that and it was war that's what that's another thing that um that preger said preger's like well the darya has that was war oh oh really you do you really want to want to go with that. Is that the argument you want to make, Dennis? Right. Yeah. I mean, I just found the whole thing so incredibly frustrating. I'll be honest with you. I'm going to have a hard time discussing it because it just, it eventually just came down to

just screeching as far as I'm concerned. I think I messaged to you guys privately on telegram saying that at like 53 minutes in, I was just already at my limit. It just was just devolved even further into just constantly referring to the Nazis, the Nazis, it's the Nazis. And I mean, I think the real reason, I want to kind of step to one of your points, Jose, I think the real reason they don't bring in other guys, like more like us. And as Dee said, more heritage American types, or as you said, Pete, just American citizens whose families have been here at least since prior to 1965. eyes.

Excuse me. The thing that drives me crazy, the reason they don't want to bring people like us in is the closest they had to that on the panel was Dave Smith. That's the closest they had to that. And the reason I say he's the closest is he's the only one out of all of them that just said, hey, yeah, you can have your little war, but don't take my tax money. But even he wouldn't cross the line and say things like, you know what, America just needs to be completely isolationist.

I don't think there's a guy in this panel. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this will be our first order disagreement for today. But like I tell myself my buddy in Canada, I am a lawn sheep American. There's a famous photo out there in photography books on the internet of sheep grazing on the White House lawn. I think it was taken like 1898 or maybe even as late as 1901. It's like that's the kind of American I am.

I want sheep grazing on my White House lawn. I want to be able to shake the hand to the president when I meet him on a because that's another thing that happened in American history. Like, I don't want to involve myself with any of the rest of the world if I don't have to. I'll be nice to the Canadians because they're literally my next door neighbor, but even they have to stay on their side of the fence. And I'll say the same to the Mexicans. God blessed us with a tremendous amount of natural resources.

Every year, we find more and more and more. We don't need the rest of the world. You know what? So their problems are not my problems. The first thing I thought of with this debate, and Jose, again, I'll step to a point you make. Another reason they don't bring guys like us on that program, and I'll speak for myself in this. I won't speak for all of you, gentlemen, but I suspect there's at least one of you that probably feels the same, is because one of the first things we're going to say is, I don't give a shit.

Why are we even having this discussion? This is your problem. You guys want to kill each other, bomb each other into oblivion, knock yourselves out. I've got a ton of problems at home that I need to. worry about. And I couldn't care less about any of what you people have been doing. You people have been killing each other forever. And I have no interest in bringing your feuds into my life, let alone on my shores. I think that's another big reason they don't like guys like us in the program. Yeah, like, you know, Prager, you've got millions of dollars. Equiped your own company.

Take the millions of dollars. You've built from American Christians. And there can be, you know, the, you know, the dentist company of the, you know, third brigade of the, you know, is IDF that you paid for their gear, you paid for their training, you paid for all that stuff. Why is my tax money going to it first? And second, as long as you're taking my tax money, as long as your people are permitted to live in my country and built it for millions of dollars every year, right? Bacha Ungar Sargon, who I personally am convinced to some kind of,

Fed asset. Oh, same here. Yeah. Yeah, agreed. But she's worth three million dollars. She's the, you know, like, she's the editorial head of Newsweek. Okay, but that used to mean something. Now probably Pete gets more readers than the Newsweek does. I mean, like I guarantee between the four of us, we have more readers than Newsweek. Um, but wouldn't surprise me. Oh, yeah. Probably bought, like, to be honest, like, from like an Indian, like sort of a good chunk of it. I would imagine, but regardless, right, she's worth $3 million. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's not.

She's not any sharper thinker than I am or any of the other guys in this panel. I'm frankly, the dumbest guy here. Why is she worth $3 million that was stolen from Americans? Because she will lie. That's why. It goes back to the point that raised earlier in today's conversation because she's willing to take the ticket and we're not. And, you know, if you're going to take it.

take my money, if you're going to get rich off of my country, if you're going to constantly involve us on this other stuff, then you have to treat the Christians in Palestine decent. Do they? No. Why do you think they lost their mind over that one Lutheran pastor that Tucker Carlson interviewed, who told a smid of the truth? You could ask the Oriental Orthodox and the Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic, you know, right? How many uh, marinate Christians in community with Rome have been bombed by Israelis

in Lebanon over the last 30 years. Thousands? Tens of thousands? I don't know, but it's a lot. Why? If it is going to be my business, why can't I impose any terms at all? Well, said.

On this discussion. Just to be in the discussion, that's the thing. They don't want people like us in the discussion because basically we know more than them. I mean, I know more about the last 2,000 years of Jewish history than anybody on that panel. Probably all four of them combined. I know their history. I know what they've done.

I know because why? Because I consider them to be an adversary. And I want to know my adversary. Okay. To speak to you. This is what, Pete, not to cut you out. I read something about Jewish history every single day because I want to know who they are. I want to know.

I want to figure it out. To speak to your point, Pete, and I didn't know that you were that informed on. I mean, you've always struck me as extremely informed, but I didn't realize you were that informed. And kudos to you. But the thing that really makes me think now, especially that you say that, Prager says at one point, that anti-Semitism is unique in that it's exterminationist. Nobody else wants their opponent dead like they want Jews dead. Everybody wants them dead.

It's unique. Everybody wants us exterminated. And the thing that gets me about- Do you know what no one on that panel said? Why? Do you know what no one on that panel? No one on that panel asked why. Why?

Exactly. That was honestly my first question. And I say this is somebody that genuinely rankles at being called an anti-Semite. It's like, well, hold on a second. Let's, let's, I'm one of, probably one of the, I might be the only guy on this panel that kind of, no, it bothers me too.

Okay, but the point of me, it bothers me. I'm with you, Pete, like that was literally my first question. It's like, if, if you, if this, if the, if the, if the animosity against these people is so vitriolic, and I'll even use their word, so vitriolic that it is exterminationist, Like, why does it never occur to them to say, hey, why does everybody want me fucking dead? Like, if all you guys on this panel said, Charles, we fucking hate you so much. If we get your address, we will fucking put a bullet in your face.

It's like, you don't think the first thing I would think to myself is, uh, what on earth did I do? shit, if Dee stopped talking to me for a month, I'd be like, Dee, did I, did I insult your wife? Did I say something to your kid? Like, what happened? Pete, we don't, we barely know one another. Why, we don't even know each other outside the context of podcast. But if you stopped responding to any of my telegram messages,

not that there are many, I can promise you on a stack of Bibles. I would be on, on the phone with D. Like, hey, man, did I, did I cross the line with Pete? What's going on? Let alone if you said, hey, Jose, if I meet Charles, I want to stab him in the fucking throat. Like, I just can't even fathom. These people don't ask why. Well, not only do they not ask why.

But when, and Prigger was lying. Big surprise. Because there is genocidal hatred that is in the world right now, not against Jews, against white people. they say we're going to wipe you out and destroy your genetics forever. If I said the same things about Jews, the Barbara Ler Inspector said about Swedes, I would go to jail under this new law. The house just passed. Great point.

So, and who is it that's doing this? Alejandro Mayorkas? The highest board member? Because now the secretary, you're like, the Jewish Attorney General and the Jewish Treasury Secretary and the Jewish Secretary of State and the Jewish Homeland Security Secretary say the border is fine, we have enough money, we could fight multiple wars and diplomacy's working, right? This is, this is nonsense. I'm an American. I have nowhere else to go. What about my kids? What about my future? That's a point. That's one of the points I wanted

to bring up today was as they, as you see people seeking to destroy, this country, you see how many, and you notice how hard they're going on trying to blame the borders, the open borders on the Catholics, right? And it's like, oh, look at this Catholic charity. Oh, look at this. Just ignoring their own words, ignoring their own words, okay? I, I have, if this country's destroyed, where the fuck do I go? They get to go back to that piece of shit fucking, that piece of shit in the Middle East. Where the fuck do I go? Yeah. That's a great point, fellas. And he, that's the other thing Prager keeps saying. Oh, it's only the size of New Jersey. It's only the size of New Jersey. But to riff off of your point, great, at least you've got fucking New Jersey.

What do we have? There's nothing. I don't even have nothing. That's it. Zero. You were, you were just, yeah, you know what? The NACPA happened to white New Jerseyans in 1967. They were destroyed. By who? We've talked about it. Race war in high school. Who was it behind Shelley v. Kramer?

Who was it behind Brownbee board? Who was it behind all the riots? Who was it behind all this stuff? So it's one thing, you know, if the Jews, and one of the guys on the Old Glory Club lives, one of the recent Old Glory Club lifersers made this point, and it's worth repeating over and over and over again.

You know, everyone who's listening to this probably knows that the so-called Holocaust is, if not greatly exaggerated. was completely fake. There were no gas chambers. Gremmer Rudolph. You'd be looking at all that stuff. Let's just take them at face value for just a second. If people from across the ocean poured everything they had into a war that killed millions of people, if they spent every penny they had building trucks and planes and ships and bullets and guns and masks conscripted all their young men and sent them off to war

and gave an entire generation PTSD and alcoholism to save my people. And I was a dick about it. I was ungrateful. You know, if the Jews weren't the scum of the earth that they are, they should have taken the control of financial system and media system and they said, every corn fred six foot two blonde-haired Iowa farm boy that saved our lives we wanted them to have

27,000 kids we want them to have 37,000 grandchildren we want them him to cover the earth yep these people saved us yep that's what's what did they do what did they do zero gratitude yeah no gratitude at all so wait a second you're taking my money you got no gratitude you're behind all of us literally behind all the stuff that's wrong in our society. Proud of it. Proud of the fact that, yo, like the nice Jewish couple behind most gay porn in America.

Like, that's an article I've seen, right? Like, you're proud of the, of the, you know, destruction of free speech for, for political speech, but, you know, the allowance of, of, of, the most disgusting forms of pornography, right? That's okay.

I can't use my real name on the internet. Right? Right. Pete and I were having a private discussion elsewhere. It's like, look, if free speech was real, we both be millionaires. That's not me overall evaluating my abilities. That's looking at the people who are millionaires under the controlled environment and going, you know, if I was allowed to compete with these people, I'd be a millionaire because I'm better

than they are, and it's not because I'm great. It's because they're terrible. Yeah, agree. Yep. Look, somebody's just, and now somebody's listening who's just going to say, we're jealous. We're jealous to these people who are a millionaire. That's what it always is. Yeah, we have like lower IQ and stuff like that.

Yeah, have you ever heard this one? They say, oh, when you talk about the Jews like that, that's just like when the left talks about white people and say there's white privilege. I'm like, you realize when they're, the only mistake they're making is that it's not white people, it's Jews that they should be talking about. Yeah. Okay? It's not white privilege.

It's Jewish privilege, all right? Yeah. It's structural Jewish supremacy, like, structural Jewish parasitism. like Ron Unst talked about it like they get into you know massively at higher rates than at elite universities than we then did white people do the magic of nepotism right oh yeah yeah forget the IQ yeah those IQ argues is it's that's it's all it is exactly it's like it's like it's the same thing as the rich get richer it's it's it only it's it's not necessarily money at this point if I if I get my guy let let let's let's

I'll just keep this very simple, very quick. Let you gentlemen continue. It's like, okay, first off, if I get my guy, let's, we'll pick a police department, local police department, because this is more or less my area of expertise, law enforcement. Okay, pick your local police department, right? I get one guy on internal affairs. That's all I do is I get one guy on internal affairs. Well, what can I do then?

Well, then I can start weeding guys out because I'll use the rules and I'll get the other guys out. Because I'm the internal affairs guy. well, who do I put in? When I get rid of a couple guys, who do I put in? I put in my guys. And then what do they do? They get rid of a couple other guys with the rules and then they put their guys in. And then that just continues. So it just becomes an exponential growth. That's why the nepotism is so dangerous. It isn't because nepotism is unique to that particular people. Let's be honest. I mean, Huey Long said it in what? Well, that's why they had to pass the civil rights act. Like I would put all my relatives, you know, in things. Like nepotism isn't unique to them, but it's just how it works. What was that, Pete? I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to talk over you. Go ahead. No, I was talking over you. That's why they had to pass the Civil Rights Act. They had to pass a civil rights act so we couldn't have freedom of association. They can have freedom of association. We can't. Right.

Okay. As soon as we say, oh, let's, you know, we're going to exclude people from this community, their lawyers come down upon us. Right. Right. Yeah, that goes back to my HOA point, not to cut you off, but that dovetails nicely with my HOA point. Like, that's all an HOA is. It's holding people to standards that they otherwise can't or won't. So it just becomes de facto segregation. So that's how they get around it. That's how they use the word games, the law games, the lawfare against them. That's what that's all, it's all in HOA is. Anybody tries to tell you, it's, oh, just because we want to have a nice community. It's like, no, this is just segregation by another name, which I'm not against, because that is how you get a nice community. They can live how they want to live.

You live how you want to live. But that's exactly what an HOA is. So please continue, Pete. I just wanted to just bring those two points together. No, it's perfectly fine. I also wanted to bring up something else that just made me absolutely insane in this debate was, I think Dave mentioned Dyer Hassan being a

you know like a genocide and Dennis Prager started screaming you've just blood libeled Israel is there any other do you need any other evidence that this guy is not right in the head I don't care

he may have a hundred six guy man oh my god he may have 160 IQ but he's he's fucking insane he cannot he's just i said this on twitter the other day a friend of mine we were going back and forth and everything and um i think it was um i think it was radlib radical liberation he said uh someone mentioned lorangigno and he said i know who lorangin yo is because of pete and it um he posted up the video of me and aaron my friend Aaron reading Israel the Psychopathic Nation. And my response to him was most people do not like

having a mirror held up to them. Jews consider it a blood libel. If you try to show them how they're acting or what they've done, they take it as you want to kill them. And not only them, but all of them. How the fuck do you share a world with people like that? That's a point I want to raise very briefly. Again, just man, Pete, talk about two of us, Sympatico today. The word that sprang out to me throughout this whole debate more than any other,

and I encourage your listeners to not just take me using the word, go look it up and look it up and look it up, in five different dictionaries, physically, online, whatever, and look at every single meaning of the word. Because as D-K knows, who's followed my writing for at least 10 years now, I ring meaning out of words like nobody else. Rightly or wrongly, good or bad, is irrelevant. The word that sprang up throughout this whole debate in my head, Pete, and this is to riff off what you said, is alien. Alien. Like, I couldn't even fathom the way these people were. thinking it was just

foreign is too insufficient far too insufficient for me their method of thinking it was alien as you say the whole well if you hold a mirror up to me not only is that is that awful it's blood liable it means you want to kill

all of us all to goodness gracious like it's alien and then just I want to step back to what a question you asked Pete you said you were going to be devil's advocate and you pose this question to D. What makes Jose and I more American than the people on that panel? I'm going to give you my answer, Pete. Here's my answer, because neither you nor Jose are alien to me. I may agree with you, I may disagree with you, but I can at least understand where you gentlemen come from. Maybe we

could be neighbors. Maybe we couldn't. I don't know. Maybe we could have a good time drinking together. Maybe not. I don't know. but you are not alien to me in the way those people, I want to say literally every one of them was alien to me. And again, I'll drop it after this. Please look that word up in a bunch of different dictionaries because I mean just about every definition you can take from that, referring to that. Here's what, from my research, okay?

Maybe, maybe D.E knows this. I don't know if the other two know this. The original, we're talking about early 1800s when the phrase the Jewish question came up. What was the main concern when people talked about the Jewish question? When Marx wrote about the Jewish question, what was the main concern? I don't know. I will confess my ignorance. Assimulation.

How do we assimilate these? How do Jews assimilate into white European? society. I'll leave it at that. I mean, yeah, my answer would be they don't, and they don't wish to, but that's a whole other topic, really. They don't. And what do they, and what do they do? They immediately start to undermine. They immediately start to make it there, try to make it theirs. This goes back to a point that I raised when we were discussing the psychopathic nation. This goes back to a point I raised there, And it goes back to something we just said, D and Jose were going back and forth about this conversation.

I could live within gratitude. And forgive me listeners who have heard me say this already, but I'll say it again for those that didn't purchase the gum road broadcast. But go purchase it if you can. If you can. But I'll say it again here for the benefit of those that didn't hear the first time. I could live without the statues. I could live without the gratitude. I could live without all that stuff.

What I can't live with is the hostility. It's one thing to be in gratitude because there's plenty of assholes on this planet. There's no shortage of them. But when I'm going to, in the broader sense, when Western Christians rush to your aid. And if we're saying the Holocaust happened exactly as they say it did, which let's just say for purposes of this conversation, it did. If it did, it's bad enough. there is a lack of gratitude, a tremendous lack of gratitude. It's unconscionable, and I choose that word carefully,

unconscionable that you're undermining the civilization that saved you. It's just unconscionable. You know, you were asking, is there, could we be neighbors? Could we be, you know, could we have drinks and get along? I'm sure, you know, the answer to that is yes. I would not, I wouldn't want to be at the same conference as Dennis Prager. I would not want to be in the same city as Dennis Prager. I mean, this is a guy who was laughing as he was talking about,

except for Nazism, Jews are responsible. I mean, he didn't say only responsible, but promoting Nazism, I mean, communism, feminism, capitalism, capitalism, all these is. and everything. And he's like, uh-huh, yeah, this is also a guy

who said that he's responsible for more Christians coming to Christ and probably anyone else. Um, he said that he was fine with AI child porn, uh, with, uh, child porn.

This is a guy who is, the one of the most incredibly dangerous people to any Western value. I mean, Western value is destroyed. because Christians, the Judeo-Christian, which is the biggest oxymoron,

it's not even an oxymoron. It should be, that term should be melted and it's not true. It's appear from the Lexcon. Yeah, man. Dry water. Yeah, it's dry water.

Yeah. I mean, this, this guy has, I mean, you want to talk about the ultimate, ultimate gatekeeper. The ultimate, God's chosen lunatic. But it's worse.

It's worse than Gatekeeper. He's doing everything possible to destroy what has been built here. And he probably already has. It's probably already done. Pete, doesn't he even say at one point that he spent his life defending American values in the debate? I'm pretty sure he does. I mean, if anybody can bear it goes through it for a second time, or if any of your listeners end up watching it or have.

please, I implore you. Comment on Twitter to either Pete and I, or Jose, excuse me, Jose is well, comment and let us know. Because I am 80% sure he says at one point he spent his life defending American values or upholding American values. Like that's why it's just so bitterly ironic that he says that in the context of what you just mentioned, Pete. Well, then you have to ask the question, what is American values?

And if ask him, what do you think American values are? But this dovetails nicely with my answer to your question, Pete. I'm sorry, Jose, I didn't mean to cut you off. I'll jump off in a second. But this dovetails nicely too. I think you and Jose and myself could more readily agree foundationally on what, air quotes, American values are, than we could with the aliens that were on that panel. Go ahead, Jose.

You were starting to speak when I was, you know, I was just laughing. I want to speak to that because of the point here, because Dennis Prager has what he calls. This is when I first started breaking with the guy, because I used to love him. I used to listen to him every day.

I thought Dennis Prager was the best talk so host in the world. I thought that Dennis Prager was wise and benevolent and a kind man, and I looked up to him. and now I despise him. And here's why. He has what he calls the American Trinity, which is blasphemous when you think about it.

He calls it out of E pluribus unum. In God we trust. And I want to say his third one is a liberty. And I'll look that up real quick. But the sheer dishonesty of that, of like liberty to do what drag queens

because Dennis is okay with child porn you know as long as it's animated what many we can't can't live with bad people right and which God you know right because my God's different my God's triune

my God's the father son and holy spirit your God's Molok Mamm and Moloch you know yeah You know, so, so why, um, you know, like, and this is just his, uh, um, inability to be honest, right? Um, there's just no ability to live with a guy who's going to lie as much as this guy does. Towards the end, this guy lies the most about. And you have to keep him from public, you know,

Yeah. You know, I was, I asked the question earlier. I said, you know, if they destroy this country, where do I go? Yeah, and somebody could be like, well, you know, your family's from Spain. Yeah, they destroyed that. Well, you know, your mother's, you know, Polish, Hungarian and everything. They're under attack. Yeah, exactly.

Where the fuck do? Right. Where do we go? Exactly. Where do we go? And if I go to those places, if I, let's just, Just hypothetically. I mean, they moved Franco's fucking body.

I was actually just. They went into his fucking memorial. God bless you. And took it out. God bless you. It's just about to say, like, yeah, like, like they're literally disintered. They're literally exhuming Franco. Like literally.

Where am I going to go? Well, that's the other thing. Dee, I, I see to one second. That's the other thing that got me. When he, when Prager kept harping on, oh, there's 22. there's 22 Arab or Muslim nations, blah, blah, blah, this, and, oh, just one of us and blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking, okay, well, first off, there's only one Jewish state. Okay, first off, are we talking about Jews as a race, or are we talking them as a religion?

Which one are we talking about? Because Muslim is not a race. It's a religion. There are popular European descent Muslims in England. it's like okay so are we talking is that a race or is it a faith which one is it are you choosing judaism and second off if it is a race you can't have that because apparently nobody else is allowed to have that right nobody else and if it's a faith you're also not allowed to have that because whenever i say hey i'm a christian nationalist not not that i say that but if i do you imagine

how quickly i'm going to lose my job because i'm not allowed to have that either oh you could be you could be uh native american you could be mestizo you could be of african descent you could be of european descent i don't care but you have to be christian oh oh can't have that it's like well wait a minute hold on so what you're saying is we can't have an ethnic an ethno state and we can't have a feocry we can't have either so no matter what definition they want to use for judaism it's like you know you're right your country shouldn't exist by your own standards because whatever whatever one you want to be you can't have it right and and that's why i broke slowly like i thought about i turned around in my head and wait a minute out of many one you know dennis preger

doesn't have a problem with abortion dennis prigur doesn't have a problem with uh child pornography as long as it's like virtually produced dennis prer doesn't have a problem with pornography So when I say I do have a problem with those things. And what is he conservative about? You know, he's this conservative talk show host. Like, what is he conservative about? Conservative about the culture? No, doesn't mind destroying it.

Doesn't mind Playboy. Doesn't mind lowly porn produced by computers. Conservative about religion? No, not really. He's pretty liberal about religion. because I can't say like you know we imported more Muslims after 9-11 than we're here in the first place why what do they bring to the table that's so great falafel joints I mean really you know why oh because we can't discriminate that's the most evil thing no what his real religion is what

the real product of Judaism is is to destroy white Western Christian societies once you understand that? There was not one person in that entire debate who said, I am for white Western Christian societies because they have been the unequivocal best thing to ever happen to the world. All that debate was about was whether the United States should serve Israel as like this, you know, where it's not even nobles oblige. It's we're basically the, their slaves. We're their slaves. They're their tax cattle. That's all it was about. Whether we should do that or whether we shouldn't, whether we should help them fight their wars, whether we shouldn't. Not whether we should have any fucking things to do with these people. Yeah.

Whatsoever. Right. That was the point I raised. It was the exact point I raised earlier. Again, we're very sympathetico today. Be all the same wave like, yes. And the fact that right Dennis Prager made millions of dollars travels all over the country to low church Protestants sells them

to this soap oil bullshit convinces them to basically sell themselves out and I can't get on the radio to tell say that Dennis Prager's full of nonsense right Dennis Prager has to say

oh the American Trinity right liberty e pluribus unum in God we trust right well okay but that is you're a jew you you you can say oh everyone can come to america but i can't go to israel except to spend a bunch of money as a tourist and you know pray before the wailing wall and put on my little funny hat and pretend that we have the same fate like no Dennis's minions in the congress just made the scriptures illegal

they just made the gospel of john really right right right and and Liberty. What about liberty? Liberty to be safe on the street? Liberty not be shot. You know, liberty, liberty to not have my kids get beat the crap out of in the public school that I pay for. You know, my kids can't go to a public school. Yeah, the only liberty he's concerned for is about, um, wearing his skin suit or like his otherwise, like, beastial, like agenda. Because like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's the thing. thing about like in terms of coexistence how can you like live with people that wear this like skin suit of like pseudo civility but like whenever they go back home and just take off the skin suit they just turn into this like feral beast that's just like plotting to destroy your

civilization like at some point you have to realize like these people also you can't live with Because you can put on the skin suit and like for a while, but eventually it's going to melt off and you're like true fucking reptilian colors. And Dennis Prueger is full of exceptions. You know, he thought that Keith Ellison shouldn't be allowed to swear in when he was in Congress. Shouldn't be allowed to swear in on the Quran. Because Dennis Prager thought everyone should swear in on the Bible. So wait a second.

If we're excluding people from Congress because they're not culturally compatible, Why can't I kick out that dude from Memphis, Tennessee, the student, uh, why are all the Jew, Ben Cardin? Why isn't he, he's a Jew? Why is he centered from Maryland? Maryland's for Catholics. Right.

Why? Why is, you know, for 30 years, Congress, California, you know, the most important state in the country, according to the leftists, was represented by two Jewish women, one of whom had a Chinese, spy on her payroll for like 25 years driving her around everywhere why can't I just say hey yeah like these Jews they can't represent

ordinary people in Congress right when the Secretary of State Anthony Blinken you know that used to be the most prestigious cabinet post right when Thomas Jefferson was the Secretary of State it I believe he was the Secretary of State under Washington he says you know I come to you as a Jew

you know E. Michael Jones makes one of the the time, but he's correct, right? Like, okay, that means you can't represent Americans. You know, the highest board member who's supposedly in charge of border security doesn't care about American borders. He can't be the board, he can't be the Homeland Security Secretary because he's not an American who cares about American borders, right? Janet Yellen's in charge of our money and what she care about, funding $95 billion to pick wars with the entire Arab world, which were still highly dependent on for energy, the Russians,

you know, and the Chinese. So we just, we just spent a ton of money. We don't have $100 billion that my children's grandchildren are going to be paying off so that Jews can start wars on three continents. What on earth are we talking about here?

And I like Dave Smith and Dave is a very funny guy in his podcast. guest is great. But even Dave wouldn't go there and just say, why is this even a conversation? Why? Because I know what he knows. I absolutely, for a 100% of fact, know that Dave knows. What's up?

Why can't anybody in the conversation just say, and ordinary people are noticing at a level that you wouldn't have thought possible 15 years ago? When I first started doing this, this was like we were like a voice crying in the wilderness and now that most people are noticing hey wait a second now now we got to shut people down now we got to beat people kids up on campuses now we got to take away people's free speech now we got to docks people now we got to debank people why if i'm lying prove me wrong if pete's lying prove pete wrong but again that's that

all of this dovetails a couple points you raised like we talked about oh you were picking fights where we're energy dependent, but that goes back to the point I said, we don't need to be energy dependent. We don't need to be. We can do it ourselves. We don't need to be. And not only are they dragging us into this.

You know why we're not in energy independent? You know why? Yeah, go ahead. There's two reasons. They like being energy dependent because that forces us to be involved in the Middle East so that we actually have to go to, there's that first part.

Because then we can start shit with Iran over the Gulf of Persian Gulf, right? Right. You know, well, how dare the Persians be upset about, you know, shenanigans in the Persian Gulf, right? Yeah. But secondly, and this is, this is absolutely 100% true and malicious. You know who works in oil business?

Who specifically? Right wing white dyes. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Yeah, absolutely. You're talking about, yeah, absolutely. The guys who make money in that part of the country, yes, absolutely. Right.

Like the guys who make money and drive F-350s, then beat the hell and have, you know, or work trucks, they're right-wing white dudes who have dirty hands and clean money. And when they have money, what do they do with it? They have families. They have kids. They do stuff for themselves. And they, and from the guys doing the mud stuff to the engineers,

Dennis is Prager's people do not want those people to have the ability to defend themselves by having a secure job and lots of money. Right, because that'll end up with mustache man at the end for in it for reasons. It's like an old four chan meme or something, you know, step one, step two, step three is all question marks and then four is mustache man. And it's just like that just goes. Yeah, well. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, the only thing he did wrong was lose. So, so like, but this is why you can't live with these people. This is why they have to be, that's why you need to have an affirmative defense. As Pete said, like, you just need to be able to say, like, hey, yeah, can I see your 23 in me before you, before you go out on the public airwaves? Oh, you're not in America. Oh, that's nice.

You're not talking today. Sorry, Dennis. Yeah. Because, right? I mean, even Dave, right? Who was by far the best person on that panel. Agreed. Agreed.

You know, wasn't being fully honest. And I like Dave. He's funny. I've listened to some of his stand-up. It's good. You know, his appearance on Rogan was one of the best,

you know, he's a great guy for what he is, but he's still what he is. So why? Is there no, ability for a person who's telling the whole truth anywhere in the public debate about anything. Well, because they own Congress. Look at what's happening in Congress.

There are still people who want to argue that, I mean, after all of this, there are people who want to argue that, you know, oh, there, you know, there's no such thing as Zionist occupied government. I had somebody, I posted something from 4chan the other day. It said, someone posted on there, you have no idea. idea how Jewish things really are. Who? Whom?

That's the fundamental question. Somebody commented. Somebody corrected me and said English. Like British. You know, you know, going to the Carol Quigley route and everything like that. And I'm like, yeah, because they just passed a bill in Congress. They just passed a bill in Congress to outlaw bad talk against British people. You fucking moron.

Yeah, they just made St. George's Day in a mandatory public holiday. No one can make fun of the, you know, effeminate Episcopal priests. No, you know, every, you know, evangelism of an Episcopal church is considered a hate crime. I was just going to say, loycense memes will get you thrown in jail. Yep. Right. It makes fun of people's bad teeth and all of a sudden, you know, you're, you're, or bad. food and all of a sudden you're going to

know. But right now, Mike Myers is languishing in Gitmo for the Austin Powers films. You just had, and this happened, I don't remember if it happened before after we recorded last, but you know, what another hundred billion, a bunch of it goes to Ukraine,

which is a Jewish operation, a bunch of it goes to Israel, and I've said, a bunch of it goes to Taiwan, which who wants to destroy China? You know, who Who wants to Who's sold all of our stuff to China in the first place?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, people don't even want to talk about that. I mean, that's so buried on the Internet to try and find how military secrets that we gave to Israel. They turned around and sold it to China. Oh, imagine. You mean, we gave him something free and they sold it?

That's called me shocked. I mean, that never happens. Who was it? Who was it in the 90s? who who was the secretary of labor under bill clinton pete do you remember i don't remember no i do his name is robert rike yes who when did all of our manufacturing capacity get shipped overseas and under which labor tech you would think the american secretary of labor's job was i don't know protect american labor why did this guy just oh yeah let's ship all the dyes and all the two

You know, like, why can't we make planes anymore? I don't know, because you shipped everything to China. You know, who's behind weed legalization? We talked about it last time. I'll bring up Boeing briefly. You know, you've got these people working in a South Carolina plant who are smoking weed before they go into work. So if you're under 40 as a white person in America, you've been destroyed by drugs,

pornography, a degenerate culture, a lack of hope and jobs. I mean, you think, you know, us gen X-extres are pretty cynical. But, you know, what was normal for us was in our 20s was to, you know, tie one on on Saturday night and maybe Sunday and then stumbling to work and still work hard Monday through Friday. Who was it that was behind the destruction of America's young people to the point where they can't work the kind of jobs that we need them to work to make airplanes anymore? You know, that might be true that Americans just won't do the jobs anymore. but who imported tens of millions of low IQ people who don't read who are not capable doing this or work wasn't me certainly wasn't me I mean you know there's no

honesty and there's no self-reflection here you know Dennis Prager will oh the liberal leftist Jews are the real problem it's like no no no all of you are a problem and yeah if I say I don't want to live like Dennis you You should be for the expulsion of every left-wing Jew from America tomorrow. I should be able to say, Dennis, I don't want to live or anyone to the left of Ben Shapiro. They all need to go. I don't care where, but they need to go. And he should be the first one to say, you're absolutely right.

They all need to go somewhere. Let him go to Akibbutz in Israel and get their fingernails dirty and learn to be men again. Right, but he won't. That's why he was so infuriating in the debate, because he said, and he tried to come across as high-minded and noble, but it came across as far from that, when he says in the debate, yes, I'm an American, but there are loftier ideals than just one's country. Like, I'm phrasing him a little more dramatically than he did, but he did. He's an alum.

Right. And that, exactly. That's exactly. You got it. And that's, he didn't use those exact words. he didn't refer to that exact concept. But he does say that, yes, I'm an American, but there are bigger ideals than just that.

And my immediate thought was, yes, and it's Israel. Like, like, that's what, that's what you're saying, Dennis. Like, it's just, and Dennis is a lacute supporter. And so, as is Ben Shapiro, but Ben, you know, Ben Shapiro's openly like, I would gladly waive that you have to be born in America, you know, requirement for B.B. No, he'd be president of America.

Okay. I just want what you have. Right. The Laku Party is based off Jabotinsky. Do you guys know who Pete knows who Jabotinsky was? Do you guys do who Jabotinsky was? No. No, I do not.

I confess makers. Yep. Pete, would you care to elaborate? No, go ahead, man. Okay, so Jabotinsky is a Jewish fascist. He was a Jewish fascist. So I want an ethnostate with a wall and free health care. and education, you know, free secondary education for bright kids and technical training for kids who are more inclined to that sort of thing.

And an autarkic economy that supports its own, you know, defense industry and, you know, has government subsidies to farms so that we can grow our own food. And if I want what he has, I'm the bad guy. I'm a fascist. I'm a racist. I'm a sexist. I'm a humble fault. We're under it. And it's funny because Dennis will talk about the left only has the six-heard argument.

Well, he'll talk to us. Sexist. Let me. Sexist intolerance. Zinophobic, homophobic, intolerant, racist, and bigoted. That's the only argument's the left test. Well, the second you actually make an argument from Dennis is right, what's he say? It's sexist.

I'm like, yeah, exactly. It's racist. It was wrong for people to discriminate against black Americans. 60s. Okay, Dennis, then you explain race war in high school to me. Right. And none of these people can. And that's why this, you know, I so value the stuff that Pete does is because you have to give ordinary people the tools to understand the actual game they're playing. Yes. Yes. Very much so. Yeah. What's funny is if you were to talk about Jabotsinsky and anything that he, was promoting if you were to bring up his, you know, his activities in Turkey, his, you know,

his basically wanting to conspire against the crown. There's an excuse for all of that. There's an excuse for it. All of it. Because they see it all as an end. they can't criticize their own unless their own is denying the faith, denying, you know, basically blood libeling another Jew or something like that, you know, just like, I mean, you could see Prager how upset he was that, I mean, another Jew would, those words were coming

out of Dave's mouth. You could see how the word blood libel comes out. And then when they, when they agree on something, he's very calm. Oh, yeah, it's great that we can agree on that. It's great. It's like you just can't agree with them. You just can't disagree with them. You cannot disagree with them. You can't disagree with them if you're a Jew. You can't disagree with them. Well, not to go down the wrong.

You can't hold a mirror. You can't hold a mirror up to them. You can't say, look at what you did. You can't say the, Yagoda is responsible for the murder of 20 million people. Well, Yagoda was a communist. Okay, but he was also a Jew. But he was a, so that has nothing to do with it.

He needs to be judged as an individual. Well, that could be. Marks was me calling them spiritually feminine. It's like the only people, who are the only people women will rally? Who are the only women women will rally against? The ones that break away from the herd, the ones that break away from the collective, the ones that defame other women. Like it's just a very spiritually feminine trait.

These people have collectively taken upon themselves the curse of Eve. And that's why everything you deal, whenever I deal with them, I always just constantly reframe it as if I'm dealing. dealing with a woman or a borderline, if they're exceptionally neurotic or crazy, then a borderline personality woman. It's that collective acceptance of the curse of Eve that has them there. Because that's the only people, that's the only women that women will rally against are women that go against the female collective.

And that's, yeah, I'm not surprised to see his behavior that way. And also why he can't self-reflect. Again, it's that acceptance of the curse of Eve. He can't accept that he has flaws. It's just like women. It's like, it's not my fault. I had reasons. I had reasons.

And I mean, D has children. I'm not doxying for that. Everybody knows he has children. It's like, Dee understands that immediately because, yeah, it's a child's argument. You know, because with D, I'll say, okay, well, why did you, why did you eat that? That was for your, you know, that was for your mom or that was for me or that was for your sister for their birthday or whatever. It's like, well, I was hungry and I wanted it. It's like, well, yeah, but we can all say that.

I was hungry. I wanted it. It's a child's argument. Everybody can say, oh, I have my reasons. Like, well, right, we can all say that. But if that's the limit of your argument, it's really just a child's argument. Well, I mean, you know, right? You have kids.

Yeah, well, okay, so here's how this works, right? That's a second order of disagreement. If the only thing that matters is what you want, right, you're unreachable to be a reason. And every argument with you is the second order disagreement. And what you've said earlier in the conversation applies immediately. So if you're not reasonable, like not reachable be a reason at all, which frankly Jews and blacks have shown that they're not. Others too, but those two especially because they're so spiritually feminine, any conflict immediately becomes existential and violent because there's no arguing. You know, Charles and I've been friends for many, many years and there's things we disagreed about, quite viscerously, actually.

but because those were all first-order disagreements, he would come up with new information, or I would, and then we'd go, oh, okay, well, I was wrong or you were right or whatever. You know, so any disagreement with Dennis, and it's, it might be a first-order, like you and I might have the same disagreement, but any first-order first-order disagreement with Dennis immediately becomes a second-order disagreement because he's incapable of having enough empathy to see the other person's side.

You know, Dennis is from Southern California, or he grew up in New York and lives in Southern California. I happen to have lived in Southern California for a little while. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. It's perfect. The forecast for San Diego is pretty much the same all the time, 70 and sunny. I would love to be able to still live in Southern California.

I can't because it's been overrun by foreigners who are violent and bloud and just everything awful. there's people living under every bridge and there's trash everywhere and human feces everywhere and the prices are insane. I'd love to be able to live there again. It's gorgeous, the most beautiful place on earth just about. But I can't.

And if I go to Dennis and say, Dennis, I want to be able to live in this place again. We need to clean it up. There's certain things that need to happen. immediately he's going to say that, you know, he's not going to be able to argue on the merits. It's just, oh, you're a fascist. For one being to expel a bunch of foreigners who are squatting. Los Angeles used to be called Puritangeles because there were so many Wasp Protestants in Los Angeles in the 50s and 60s. Wow.

I did not know that either. And now it's, you know, like there's wealthy Jews who live there. You know, Harvey Weinstein just got sprung from jail. You know, if I can't say, hey, look, I don't like this degenerate filth that Harvey Weinstein produces that, you know, propaganda is my children and destroys the public discourse. Right. Can I throw, can I, can we, can we deport Harvey Weinstein to Israel? Can we take all of his money, you know, can we, can we confiscate his money? because he's done damage to public fisc,

and even if he has $2 billion, you know, taking every dime of that and doing good things, but they wouldn't do half the damage that he's done to America in the last 30 years, not Dennis would be against that. So there's no arguing with Dennis. There's no arguing with any of these people because everything instantly becomes a second-order disagreement.

The, um, the, I, idea that, well, I guess I'll say this, the, knowing how well and how adept they are at what they've done to conservatism in this country. Conservatism is dead. I mean, we know that. I mean, conservatives are running around calling people racist and fascists. I mean, what do you do with that?

What do you do with a conservative? They're running around calling people racist. and fascists. How do you talk to these people? How do you talk to them about, you know, Baton Rouge, St. George. How do you talk to him about this? You don't. You can't.

Exactly. I was getting, I had a, I was, I called somebody a boomer on Twitter yesterday, and I said, now you don't understand. Conservatives are liberals. You don't get this. And boomers are the worst. This is somebody who, like, you know, loves, like, end-wokeness account. Just end-wokeness.

We'll listen to those, work those initials out. All of these accounts that have been, that are run by them. This person tagged the FBI on me. This is a conservative. This is somebody who's voting for Trump. And they tagged the FBI on me because I said that boomers were useless and the conservatives were liberals. I mean, if you don't understand that populism, there is no such thing as populism.

Sorry, that doesn't work. Nope. Never has, never will. Yeah. Populzumink is J-Op. Yeah. There's only one way out of this. There's only one way out of this.

And I think that if you want to see the way out of it, look at what just happened in Louisiana. And that's your, that's one of the ways to do it. But also, once you do that, you're going to have to gate keep the hell out of it. And you're going to have to be willing to be like, nope, nope, I don't care what the Civil Rights Act says. I don't care what this new house bill says, which as far as I know right now, this house bill would only apply to colleges. It would be under Title VI, but you know, they'll expand that out. I don't care what any of these things say. Nope, nope.

We're doing our own thing. and if you try to come in here, there's going to be consequences. That's the only, there's, Donald Trump is the worst of them. The only good thing Donald Trump is for is Donald Trump radicalizes people enough that they may come and start listening to us and we can take them to the next step. Very well put. It's the only useful, that's the only thing Donald Trump is useful for. Yep, amen.

Yeah, and he's a paving stone on the way on the way to a better destination. That's it. I mean, how do you talk to these people about the fact that you just can't live with blacks? Oh, but I know this. Of course you do. Of course you do. We all do. It's not the point.

How do you live with them? Well, how do you live with anybody who's completely immune to being reasonable? Yeah, that's more where I was, yeah, exactly. It's not even just one community. It's just so many. The theme of the whole conversation today is how do you live with anybody who literally cannot be reasoned with? Right. And it's not even a...

It's why I put on Twitter. It's still out there. I have no desire to take it down. It's the longer we be longer we there is no political solution and the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And that's what you're saying, Pete, is if we don't start, if we don't start, fortifying what we have, if we start balkanizing to a point, and if we don't, that sort of thing, then we just go to this, the second order disagreement is going to become what I said.

It's going to be violent. What you're saying is it's trying to it peacefully now and fortify it now before it gets there. We can only hope and pray that we're able to do that. And at least this is a step in the right direction, but I don't know if it's too little too late. I hope it's not. But whether it is too late or it isn't, it doesn't invalidate your words. If anything, it only backs them up, it only supports them. It's like, this is the way out and this is what you have to do.

It's not even a matter of one. It's what you have to do. And you have to stop seeding ground. You have to. I mean, I left the East Coast and I now live in almost the exact dead center of the continental United States. There is nowhere else for me to run. nowhere. It does not exist. Not only do I not even have a foreign country to go to, I've run out of places in my own country to go to, because now it's here too with illegal immigration. I have a weed farm around the corner from me that is run solely by illegal Chinese, and I can't get anybody to do jack shit about it. And I've called everybody from district attorneys to drug and control boards to the fucking water company of my,

local city to see if I get them into looking into it because they don't have a commercial water well they they they have a a residential so it's like so they just turn the aquifer in a semi-arid environment right and they're not legally exactly you're exactly right and that's exactly what they're doing and it's just there's nowhere to run and they are taking what you are not to go down the wrong road but just to kind of prove how badly we're losing ground and how how this how far these things are going. I'm, law enforcement,

security fields, investigation, all that. Dean knows my background. You guys know my background. Well, I know a security guard that works at the libraries

in Oklahoma City. And he says you are, the homeless are literally allowed to bring in spears. One guy has a halberd, literally allowed to bring spears into the library, as long as they leave them at the front desk. because these people need to be able to protect themselves.

Now, Dee, what's going to happen to guys that grew up like me or possibly yourself, like lower middle class white kids that want to just read books and want to better themselves and be autodidacts and educate themselves? You think they're going to go to the library now? Do you think they're going to feel safe? Now that there are literally spears leaning up the counter and schizophrenics, Getsoprenic homeless people wandering around there because we have to let them. Yeah.

Like, now we've lost the library. Like, if you don't think the library is how guys like me and I don't know if there, I'm sure many of your listeners got out of upper lower class or lower middle class, I got bridges to sell you because that's why I used to get a lot of the library. Go ahead. And my mother would do a shopping and I'd be like,

hey, can you just drop me off at the library? Yep. I'd be up at five hours. Yep. I'd take my backpack. Yeah, the destruction of these public spaces is one of the most insidious of facets of this multicultural area. There are no third spaces. Yes, exactly.

There's none of them. And this is, again, who's responsible is every single time. But third spaces are how you organize. Third spaces are how you organize politically. Third spaces are how you meet dates. The third spaces are how you maintain friendships. Third friendships are third spaces are how you live in a community with people. But every third space in St. Joe in Baton Rouge is one wrong person showing up away from being a bloodbath.

And it is. Yep. I couldn't use the pool of my old department complex for that exact reason. And understand, like Pete, to kind of address something you were saying a moment, to go and I'll try and keep this cogent and give the floor back to you gentlemen. But to go something you were saying, we have to kind of do what St. George did and find find this common ground and fortified. Understand there's already huge sections of the United States that do this. There's already huge sections of the United States that have their own way of doing things.

There's literally entire sections of Philadelphia that are completely free of government interference. Why? Because these people have become ungovernable. And why? Because they don't need the laws to tell people not to live there. They tell people not to live there. I was chased out of my Philadelphia community because they told me in no uncertain terms, you don't need to live here anymore. And I got bad news for you. It wasn't the black community. You did that to me. And it wasn't the Jewish community. You did that to me. That was the Mastizo community. Like, nope, you don't need to live here anymore. They chased me out of Philadelphia. There are entire sections of this country that are already balkanized, that already don't care what the law said.

There's a billion dollars of real estate and civil rights. They already don't care. Why? Because they're ungovernable. Because the police department doesn't go there. Because the fire department doesn't go there. Because they say, get the fuck out. We don't want to.

And that's all that's all people here have to do. the more that's all right wing communities have to start doing the only difference is they're going to bomb the shit out of you like they did randy weaver or you know shoot the shit out of you like randy weaver that is the difference but that again that's another reason that defunding the police is starting to become a good idea like they're they're they have a boot on your neck they're not protecting you anymore they're they're the ones with the boot on your neck you just have to they're race traders what's that they're just race traitors yeah oh yeah i mean as a guy who's been in law enforcement his whole life i'll be the

first one to say, you know, no, I, if you say you love cops, I think we've talked about this between you and me, Pete. If you say you love cops, I disagree with you. If you say, hey, cops, I also disagree with you. I'm very much a knee-jerk iconoclass with that. But anyway, you were saying about, they, they're race traders. That what you said, Pete, about the. Yeah, I mean, in 2020, they, you know, what I've been trying to do with this whole college, um, campus protesting and everything. Um, I think some of it, some of it's organic, some of it's an op. But I've been trying to point out, look, I mean, these are the cops who let, you know, blacks and, you know, everyone else who wanted to do whatever they wanted in the summer of 2020. They enforced lockdowns.

They did. I was just going to say they did a lot. Yeah. They're teasing the people throwing pregnant women into the ground because they weren't a park bench. Yeah. But now what are they doing? Yeah. Yeah.

But now what are they doing? When it comes to their, you know, we just found out. that the NYPD has an office in Israel. Did you see that that was revealed? Yes. NYPB has an office in Israel. Surprise, surprise. Something that like libertarian,

Scott Horton's been saying for years is that a lot of American police go and train in Israel. And that's where they learn a lot of their... Zio... Yeah, yeah. So... The whole neon... What happens in Israeli...

Their whole, yeah. Oh, yeah, that is. But the whole thing is now, when it's them attacking their masters, now they come and, you know, they shut it down. I mean, it's literally like the meme. Yes, it is. The dude is standing there with the walkie-talkie and he goes, shut it down. And they go and shut it down.

Oh, and I'm sorry to interrupt you a bunch, Charles. I was on a little delay there. But who was behind, like, there were, there are places where the, the 2020 riots didn't touch. Wasn't places predicted by police. It's places that the Latin King said, if I see your black ass cross this street, everybody in your neighborhood is dying. In places in Chicago where the Latin King said, you're barely hanging on. If we see anybody going to our neighborhood, the race war is on. And they understood it.

And they kept the hell out. Well, they left the, what white neighborhoods got left alone too? How many TikTok videos, YouTube videos, Twitter videos? Did you see,

go ahead. You know where I'm going with this? Yeah, but dads will play carriers and they are is going to stand in there. Yep, just standing there. Not waving it at anybody,

not making threats, just standing there. And here's, here's to reach back. And this is why I, this is why conservatives are hopeless. your biggest problem and in fact every problem in the world i mean we've we've talked a lot about two particular populations today the only thing stopping everything literally everything in the world

from being better by a year from now 80% solved yep is white liberals yeah and if you don't understand that there is no living with these people that there's no well she's my brother-in-law or is my sister-law Like, no, no. You can tell your brother, like, look, until your wife is not insane anymore, you're not welcome in our house. We might move and not even tell you where we live. Right. You want to send a Christmas present to your niece?

Send it to mom and dad's house. We'll pick it up. But until you're not married to that crazy bitch anymore, we're not doing this. And I hate to be that harsh about defuing family members, but these are the sort of people that will help the mob burn your house down. Yep, because you have a Twitter account that said something spicy. And there is no living with someone who refuses to contribute, refuses to be reasonable, and refuses to leave,

right? Yeah, it also doves deals with your point earlier about you don't get to talk about airplanes if you don't know anything about them. You know, a lot of these people just have these attitudes. Like, okay, what's your, what's, what's the old thing? on Twitter, what's your zip code? You know, when they would say, oh, we need, you know, you need to import this many people in your your neighborhood. You need to appreciate diversity. What's the meaning in your neighborhood?

Then you just say, okay, what's your zip code? I want to know where you live. You know, or a lot of these fellow whites that would say stuff. My answer, my question to them would be, what parish do you go to? What parish do you go to fellow Christian, fellow white? You know, it's like, oh, I'm not, yeah, I'm not. I'm not, wait a minute, exactly, right. You see where I'm going with that.

Yep. Who's your pastor? Who's your minister? What parish are you in? Oh, well, oh, okay, that's interesting. That's interesting. Right. That's why you got to shut a lot of these people down.

It's like, don't dictate to me what life is like on the front lines. I live there. Don't tell me who I need to live with. And you just don't get to say shit about, us saying we want to live around who we want to live around when you have a country that you have to have a fucking DNA test in order to be a citizen. Yes. Go fuck yourselves.

I mean, literally, I'm fucking sick of it. I'm sick of it. Oh, oh, Israel, but let's debate Israel and Palestine and Iran. How about we debate the fact that you fucking people, what you fucking people have done. to this country that you brag about. It's not like I'm making this shit up. Yeah. I can show you video.

I show people videos and they still don't believe it. I'm just going to say, I've seen you on Twitter. I've seen you literally on Twitter, like, send them the, the, uh, it's the video of the woman talking about all the accomplishments of, of, yeah, of Jews in America. I've seen you. The Dennis Prager video, the Barbara Ler-Spector video. Yeah. You show them that.

And it just, and they're so fucking thick. in the head. Right. Like the Goy, the Goyim, who they can't, they can't see it because, you know, it's like Israel greatest ally. And the Jews, you show them that and it's blood liable or that doesn't mean anything. They have to be judged as individuals. So what I say, I'm speaking for the world Jewish Congress. Exactly right. When Dennis says, every ism in the world except for fascism is basically Jews, feminism, Jews, communism, Jews, socialism, Jews. And I take, kick him as an word and say, you know, all of these things are really horrible to destructive to society except fascism. Can we deport all these people? Do you know how anti-Semitic I am?

I believe them when they say something. Yeah. That's how anti-Semitic I. I believe them when they say something. No, I believe you. I just disagree. Oh, the fact that I disagree, that makes me an anti-Semite. Go fuck yourself. Right. Well, and- Fuck all the way off. Well, and how dare you? I don't think Dennis Prager has any biological children. That might be wrong. He's been married a couple times.

Oh, so he's a conservative American that's had been married three or four times. Conservative boomer that's been married three or four times. Don't worry. He'll get married to an Asian before he dies, and his boomer cycle will be complete. Yeah. Anyway. That's the final. Metamorphosis is that with it?

Right. Yeah, that's last wife was an Asian woman. There are a bunch of Filipinas right now just anxiously awaiting the plane ticket. Yep. Anyway. So, he is gambling

with my children's future by picking fights with nuclear powers and one of the most ancient empires in the world. Iran just proved that they have the ability to basically destroy the oil infrastructure of the entire Middle East. If the Saudis get froggy and start fighting with the Iranians or the Jews get froggy and start fighting with Iranians,

the Iranians just proved they had the ability to completely destroy the oil infrastructure of the entire Middle East. I don't need to tell you guys how horrific that would be for the world. ironically the Iranians have moral qualms about this sort of thing and they're they're far more moral than the uh than the Israelis okay so Dennis Prager gets millions of dollars gets to set the terms of debate and he gets to impose conditions on my children that will leave them impoverished and possibly dead out of an inability to be honest about his own about honestly looking at in the mirror. And I'm supposed to live with the guy, pay the guy's tax bill, permit him to talk in public. And if I get away from him and say, you know what, you go live in Brooklyn. You're not welcome here. I'm the bad guy. This is insane. There is no living with this. This cannot continue. and what conservatives need to understand

I think this whole first and second order disagreements thing is a really great way to frame it Pete thank you for that agreed there is no way to live with people who

can't be reasoned with won't leave you alone and depend on you completely. Why is everyone in St. you know, mad about St. George? Why is everyone mad?

You know, like if the Israelis were really, really the master's universe that they purport to be, right, if they were smarter than us, better than us, more handsome than us,

right, have more kids, all this other stuff. You know, we're super rich. We have, we have all this money where the wealthiest people

in America. Okay, fine. You guys can take your millions and billions and just all of you can go to Israel. You can go live in your garage apartments on the beach,

Tel Aviv. ethnically cleansed Gaza, turn it into, you know, Miami West or Miami East and or Palm Beach East. And we'll just, well, no one will watch television in America anymore. We won't have any TV. We won't have any funny sitcoms. No one will have any newspapers. Right. We'll just, we'll just wither and die in the vine, right?

Okay, fine. Maybe that's what I want. Yeah, I can't. I think not having television isn't really a lot. But like, okay, yeah, maybe you know, you won't have science or we don't have this, one of that, whatever, not your problem anymore, but you won't do that. Why not? Why are you a dual citizen constantly telling us what we need to do with respect to your home country?

Why don't you just go there? Benji, you want you want you want you want you want you want BVNet and I here to be your head of state, move to Israel, Ben. Yeah, I was going to say he's already head of state over there. Just go there. It's that simple. Move to Israel, Dennis. Move to Israel, Batya Ungar Sargon. Move back to Turkey, Sink. Move to Israel, Dave. And all of this stuff won't be your problem anymore. And if I am a bad person for suggesting this, fine, I'm a bad person. I don't care anymore. Yeah, I mean, It's gotten to the point where people just have to take sides. They have to decide whose side they're on.

Are they on the side of Americans? Or are they on the side of this group that has absolutely captured every institution and everything about this country? Spain. And stop debating. Stop debating it. There's no more debates. Yep.

Spain, 1930. Right, D. Yep. Yeah, Spain. D and I had that, like, how old is that conversation? now day god that's got to be five years at least easily five years easily yeah where we are right now is january 1936 in spain you get us pick aside well i don't really i don't really agree with either because no no no well you know guy i'm not this no nope nope pick one you get this you get this you get

that that's what you get well no well the problem with the problem with a lot of people picking sides you know what that means right that means they're going to lose a lot of income oh yeah absolutely Believe me, I did it. When I decided to pick sides and I was like, libertarianism is total leftist crap garbage. And I'm not going to promote this anymore. And I decided I had a libertarian this week coming after me online for the way you cover World War II and Hitler. I'm like, I guarantee you, if you go back and listen to my episodes where Aaron and I read Lenin,

state and revolution, I had more positive comments about what was written in that book within those six or seven episodes than I have in the probably 75 episodes, Thomas and I have had on World War II, on Hitler, on the fascist, on the on the national socialist. I guarantee you I had more positive comments about in that than this. Why? Because even though I've picked aside, when it comes to stuff like this, I'm going to remain neutral. But the reason I cover is, oh, why would you even cover that? Because it's the other side. It's the side.

Look at who won. This is the one thing that people cannot figure out. Like if you, if you Il Duce posts on Twitter, inevitably, you're going to have somebody who thinks to our right-wing or come along and post a picture of Mussolini hanging upside down dead. Yep. And my response to them is always, you realize, the people right now who are trans and kids who control this country, who have the borders open,

who are doing everything that you voted for Donald Trump to stop, their forebearers, their ideological forefathers are the people who did that. They won the war. Their actual fathers. Joseph Stalin's granddaughter lives in Portland, has pink hair, and is a lesbian. Really? They, the people who won. Yeah.

look at Mussolini's granddaughter and she dresses in the nicest clothes and looks like a professional woman. I mean, the people who won World War II were the bad guys. They were the bad guys. Everything that you're suffering now comes from the people who won World War II. The fact that people can't fucking get that through their head is probably one of the most, I mean, after all of this that we've done, after the hours upon hours upon hours.

I mean, fucking doing this while we're sick, doing this while, you know, doing this when we know that we can get taken down at any time, doing this when we know we can get a fucking call from the FBI. I mean, Warren McIntyre said to me a year and a half ago privately, he said, I would not be shocked if they start shooting, they start taking out podcasters because we're speaking way too much truth. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't be shocked either.

No, I have to be honest. I wouldn't be, you know, I'm walking it. I'm up in, you know, I'm up in Aniston, doing my shopping and everything. Oh, and some, some fucking... Comes up behind me and just puts a bullet in my head. And, oh, it's completely random. Yeah. I'm not saying I want this.

I'm not even... I know I'm making myself out like a martyr now, but it could happen to Orrin. It could happen to any... It could happen to anyone who's speaking truth right now. Keep in mind. D knows this. That's how I... That's very similar to how I lost my federal government career because I started standing up and saying, no, this is wrong.

I'm not going to fast track these mestizo sex criminals and give them their green card, their citizenship. I wrote all I've talked. We talked about this. Remember when you and me were talking about it on the bordering on insanity? I talked about this. It's like, yeah, they will come for you. No, nobody put a bullet in my head. Nobody, you know, but I mean, they got rid of me.

They ushered me out. So that's not a very, where you're talking about is not a very big step from where I already am, from what already happened to me. It's not that big a step. If they're willing to ruin you professionally, make you unhireable by almost anybody, then it's just a short hop, skip, and a jump to where you're talking about, somebody putting a bullet in the back of your head. And when you want to talk about that real quick, I still remember to this day. And if people want to scroll through the receipts on my Twitter, you may be able to find it. I got into it with Pax Dickinson of all people when Seth Rich got murdered. And he's like, oh, it was just a random street crime.

Like, bro, are you fucking serious? You think a guy that had all this and got shot twice in the back, nobody took any of his stuff, was a random street crime. I'm like, do you know the last person that got shot in a random street crime like that? Batman's parents. Because if you've got a gun, you go rob, liquor store. You don't pull it on somebody in the street.

Most people don't get robbed at gunpoint in the real world. They get robbed at knife point or they get robbed by a strong arm intimidation. Guns are usually used to rob actual buildings, businesses, banks, if even then. And it's like, what you're

saying is the point of that story is just to say, like, you're right. These people don't believe it until we're so far past it. It's mind-blowing. That was Tax Dickinson that I argued about that. I don't know if he's since come around to Seth Rich's murder, but at the beginning, he and I got into it. So yeah, just to wrap it up, I wouldn't be surprised if they start going after podcasters.

I agree with R.M. McIntyre. I agree with that. And like I said, they've already gotten me to a point. So it's just a short hop, skipping a jump to where you're talking about. Go ahead, Dick. And the amount of Glenn Beck is the biggest Zionist tool in the first. face of the planet. He's received thousands of death threats. He has to have an armored car. Sarah Palin has received thousands of dead. Like tea party people receive thousands of death.

For Milk Coast stuff from 15 years ago, they, they know that they're utterly dependent on us and that they can't live without us and that they're parasites. And so they're really resent the host. It's like, maybe I should get a flea collar. Right. But I want to just briefly talk to your It doesn't really matter if obviously suffrage was murdered by some sort of political agent, but even if it was just a random street crime, that street crime is policy. Houston is a shithole because Sheila Jackson Lee wants it to be a shithole so she can keep getting elected. Because if it was nice, if it was safe, all of her people would be economically, politically

displaced, right? When you move away, it's white flight. When you move in, it's racist or it's gentrification. They're both bad. Okay. So Greg Hood's made this point better than anybody over it, um, uh, American Renaissance. Right. Uh, black crime is a public policy.

You could just lock up all this kids. You could just, you could just, hey, hey, look, he's 15 and he's got three felonies. Hang him. That worked for a thousand years, right? Yeah. I think the actual... If you were to execute everybody that has, I want to say, I want to say it's five felonies.

Everybody that has five felonies, crime would drop by 70%. Yeah. You could double check. Jose, you're great with numbers. Does a eugenics program right there. Yeah, but I want to say if you, and that's five felonies.

I'm not even getting to three. I'm letting you have your three strikes and then some. You have five, crime will drop 70%. I think if you execute them at three, it drops 90%. But don't, don't, you can check my numbers if you want. Jose, I'll definitely, I bow to you if you find something different. But I'm 90% of it. But that's a policy.

Yes. Yeah, agreed. Yes. This is not like random elements. It's absolutely political. Deported three times who rapes and none, right? That guy, and that sort of thing has happened, right? Yeah.

You know, he should be deported to, you know, international waters and given the, you know, thrown out of a plane treatment, like the Pinnichet treatment, because he's a, right? Like, that's a policy. And if everyone who's a criminal from Venezuela who's coming here, because Venezuela is like, we're broke. Let's just export our criminals to America that will hurt our political enemies and help us a bunch. Madi really can't part two.

Yeah, we're mighty equals. Yeah, exactly. And I really can't blame Nicholas Madero in terms of policy. It's a brilliant policy. Right. Yeah, addition by subtraction. Right. So, you know, he's

helping his friends and hurting his enemies. That's politics. Right. So that's a policy. And so when you look at it and say, okay, well, where's name me one Jew other than like maybe Paul Gauthored who's advocated for sane public policy in America in the last 20 years. Ron Ones. Ron Ones. Okay. That's two. Yeah, the exceptions always prove the rule.

Congrats. You've doubled the number. I should have hit the same. Jew quota. Right. Okay, other than those two guys who are frozen out of everything, despite Dr. Godfrey being an eminent scholar who has a degree from Yale and taught it, you know, right? Instead of teaching it.

He learned how to speak German just so that he could read Carl Schmidt in the original language. Yeah. It speaks multiple languages, has a degree from Yale. He's taught in a small Christian college because they're the only people that would hire him. Why wasn't he, you know, teaching at Harvard or Princeton or Georgetown or some point? Like he's he's one of the great public intellectuals of the last 50 years. Why is, why is he editing,

you know, this small little magazine that only, you know, a couple thousand people read. Right. Chronicles is great. I love it. You know,

been read it for years, but, but it's not, right? So why? And Ron Nuns, you know, this brilliant guy who made millions in software who's done nothing

but public service ever since, you know, published one of the great magazines before it went bad, American conservative. is one of the few people, to be honest, about all sorts of issues. Why isn't he on Sunday talk shows? Oh, right, right, because everybody else is lying. And if I say that they're lying, I'm the problem.

Because Dennis Prinker says, oh, you're an anti-Semite. No, Dennis, you're just lying. And all of your friends are lying. And everyone you go to synagogue with on Saturday lies and is a parasite and is a thief. And he's playing, let's you and him fight with the rest of the world on my children's dime and my children's future. You're picking fights that my children have to, like you're saying, in 10 years, your 10-year-old son is going to have to enlist in a war I started. Yep. Excuse me.

Literally. Fuck you. Yeah. If you are saying that my 10-year-old son is going to have to get drafted to go fight in Siberia. because do you have an ethnic grievance that goes back a thousand years and that's my problem go fuck yourself my daughter's got to lose husbands in the South China Sea

because you talk about she might have to go fight yeah yeah because remember this is now you know quality yeah I got to worry about my daughter going being drafted into the Navy and serving on a ship with a bunch of men yeah you don't even you're not even worried about the enemy yet because she's still got to make it safely there yeah exactly and not only that who's in the military now so you get to worry even more than you would have just 20 years ago who's you're going to be on your daughter going to be in a ship with now think about that people trying to get

their citizenship through military service which yes that's a thing you know or uh you know some trune you know what i mean like okay think about that like you she'd be she'd be lucky to make it to the enemy. And I don't wish your children ill. Of course, you understand what I'm, you understand. Well, no, but. But, but, but, and, you know, the great Charles Haywood, you know, like, has, has the prescription for these people. They need to be rusticated. That we need to, we need to, we need to, we need to set up a reservation in North Dakota, right on the Canadian border. And they all need to farm potatoes for a living for the rest of their lives. They're, they're fortunate. And, and, and, and, a message to those people, that's the

moderate option. Yes. The sensible centrist option. Yeah. I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and again, because you're not reasonable,

because you're incapable of first order disagreements, this is the choice you're forcing people to make. And all we are doing here is telling those people that you steal from, that you lie to, that you get into wars, that you get into intergenerational debt that'll last until the sun goes out, that you've turned their cities into unlivable shitholes where there are public schools and the public transit aren't safe where kids just randomly get shot in the middle of the afternoon.

Right? No conservative white people did this. You did. And when I say you did it, and I play video of you saying, yeah, we did that. We're proud of it.

And I say, well, I don't want to live around those people. I don't think they should live here. I don't think that they should be sovereign. because they don't know anything about building an airplane. So I don't think they should have any say in who flies the airplane. They don't know what flaps do.

I don't know how the rudder works. They don't know what flaps. They don't know how a turbine functions. I'm thinking that they don't need to know. And I'm not saying I know all of this stuff either. But if you claim credit for all the bad stuff and don't know anything about any of the good stuff, and then I say, perfectly reasonably, maybe you just shouldn't have a voice on these issues. and then you immediately go to

oh well second order to discreement it's word of knife okay that's the choice you made you could just be like hey we can't live together and I'm moving to Israel

okay good see you don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out all right well we're at two and a half now so we should probably I think we've I think we sent the message we want to send as far as

Baton Rouge St. George goes and as far as the debate goes, I'll give everybody the floor to do a closing, any kind of closing comment they wish. So Charles, why don't you go first? Thank you, Pete. There's really not much more to add. I interjected where I felt was capable.

But I'll just wrap up very briefly with this, something you were mentioning earlier, Pete, about the friend-enemy distinction and who stands for one. lot. And there was a tweet a while back that I believe the way you count was frog wave. And I've, man, this has just been stuck in my head for the longest time. And it was, I don't know if this was, if this literally happened to him or it was just an example. I suspect it was the latter. But regardless, it was phrased thusly that he approached somebody demonstrating at a pride slash trans parade.

and he said, well, what do you stand for? This individual said, you know, gay rights, trans rights, the ability to, no, no age of consent laws, etc., all things along those lines. And he said, okay, what would you say is your nemesis? What position do you think is antithetical to trans, communism, homosexuality, pederasty, what would you say that the number one nemesis is to all that? What do you think your worst enemy is?

And the response was Nazis. And he says, thank you. Thank you. So I'll leave it with that. Perfect. I mean, nothing more to say about it's just insane. All right,

Jose? Well, I, have spent like a lot of time really trying to get it into like people's heads about um the importance of reading just like revisionist history or really like censored history if you uh if you will with respect to understanding the host of problems we are we're facing at the moment because they have a clear origin story that most people don't want to accept. Like, I remember a conversation I had like a few weeks ago about all of a guy who was kind of complaining about how like things in like, like the city I'm at were getting

like pretty trashy and we were talking about white flight and stuff. And he was like saying this, oh, this is like all like Biden's fault. like, dude, this has, this has been multiple decades in the making. And I've, um, I, I really do think that we have to start talking about all of this stuff from, um, the rise of organized jewelry to like their most successful pet projects, uh, started from like, uh, Shelley v. Kramer and then turned into a, the massive, like, um, ICBM. launched against historic American nation, that is the civil rights revolution. And I just think it's very important to continue harping this point because at some point, we're going to have

to look at things a lot more soberly and eventually draw battle lines because this is no longer, there's no longer going to be debates. That's like the province of a functional polity. Once things truly break down, that's when we go back to the state of nature where the friend, enemy distinction becomes the operating norm. And we have to be ready for the worst. And I believe that this will be a process that's going to weed out the week in a very lurid and grotesque fashion. But that's why I've been prepared for this for a while, both with the facts and the physical conditioning. Jose, and I'll come right back to you, Charles, to do plugs. as they plug your work because you've been putting out a lot lately.

A lot of like good short little bangers there. So that. So yes, my main podcast content can be found on substack. My podcast, Jose Niño, unfiltered. And El Niño speaks is my podcast, which I, which is also on iTunes and Spotify. And I've introduced a more like short form segment that's called El Niño sounds off where I talk about more like daily news and other crazy stuff that's happening. And then you can also follow me on X at Jose Alinio. The Charles do real quick. If you want to plug your books,

go ahead. I have two books currently on Amazon, whiskey and ashes and inebriates of vowels, maxims and observations. And then the other book is the holistic guide to suicide. It's all about coping with depression, ideation, suicide ideation, and trying to rebuild one's life after tragedy. So I strongly encourage you to pick up definitely the latter, if not the former. And I mean that sincerely because I have heard from many people that it is helpful. So I do very much ask that you pick that up. And lastly, I can be found on Twitter at Whiskey and Ashes. If you had, have a comment, you'd like to hear more for me.

If you'd like me to broadcast more or just appreciate what I do. I'm always open to hearing kind words. And even if it's a constructive criticism, if it's just you suck, go kill yourself. Please spare me the time. But if it's constructive, I'm also happy to hear that. So thank you for having me to Pete. I'll cede the floor.

All right, DE. Obviously, after this stream, none of us are ever getting a job in the mainstream media ever again. So please support you. I was looking for my spot on the view. Yeah. I'd pay to see that. So, you know, go to support Pete.

Go to subscribe to the subsstacks. Buy Charles's books. You know, follow my telegram channel. I legitimately think these guys are some of the sharpest people talking today. And I listen to the mainstream so you don't have to. So please do support the people that support you. Pete will have links to my telegram channels in the, you know, in the show description, I think, and, you know, get, get the telegram from, from app, not from the app store because they censor.

And just be prepared, you know, listen to the people that aren't lying. And, and I've said it before on these shows, but like, take somebody who's listening to going back and get them to Tucker Carlson. Take someone who's looking to Tucker Carlson and get him to Orlin. Take somebody who's listening to Orrin and get him to Darryl. You know, you only need to get them, the filter only goes one way. and you might just not only enlighten their minds would save their lives. So that's what I would ask people to do. I know DE went over this really quick.

What he was saying is his telegram channel, if you get the telegram app out of the app store, either the Apple App Store or the Android App Store, his channel is going to be censored. You won't be able to see it. You won't be able to open it even with the link. Go to the Telegram website and get the app from there. You can get it for your desktop, laptop.

I have it on everything on my phone, my laptop, my desktop, everything. So that's what he was saying there. All right. Well, once again, thank you, gentlemen. We'll see what the reaction is to this one. And hopefully, yeah, hopefully we, we survived this one and, you'll get completely shut down. But we'll see what happens. I'm sure after the last one, people could just be, could assume that maybe we couldn't top that one, but hopefully this conversation was for,

let's not even think about topping it. Let's just think about trying to give people things to think about and hopefully to push them over the edge and pass the, um, the, um, the, gatekeeping Dennis Prager's of the world and, you know, to true independent thought and independent speech. So, yeah, that's all I have to say. Thank you, gentlemen.