The Pete Quiñones Show - The Thought Crime Syndicate Complete (So Far) w/ Bonus - Part 2

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:42 I thought he did a great job. Wish we could have had you there. Oh, it would have been nice. Tim's the best of us, man. Tim, I hold Tim in the highest regard. So, yeah. Wonderful program. any whichever i can listen to it if they haven't already oh yeah and and listen to our interesting
Starting point is 00:02:01 times it's probably yeah i had a friend say this i don't know if i've said this before but she said when i was listening to alex jones i should have been listening to tim kelly and i thought that that would i 100% co-signed that message yeah yeah yeah yeah unlike jones Tim isn't hysterical he's he's he'll admit that there's conspiracies this is this is the the you know the we'll get into this later but you know the whole like oh
Starting point is 00:02:34 you're a conspiracy there's well are there conspiracies you know Tim will just ask the question well is there a conspiracy is five guys getting in the room deciding the fate of like a you know the the Fed meeting and saying this is what interest rates will be that's a conspiracy and Tim will just go through and talk about the actual things that have provably actually happened. Lo and behold, he'll find every single time, every single time. Yeah, I liked my interview with him.
Starting point is 00:03:03 He's one of the few conspiracy people, in my opinion, that is able to talk about issues of the national question, race, and any just anti-white topic in a very cogent manner. because my experience in the conspiracy fold, which has been like since day one when I entered politics, I was very much adjacent to that fold, is that they very much believe in a lot of the civic religion of the civil rights revolution and all that nonsense. And Tim's one of the few people that's able to refute that and operate under much more solid priors, in my opinion. I thought I switched to camera, so Jose didn't feel all alone, everything. And I'm not the only facefag here. So, all right, so let's jump into this.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I know DE, after the LP convention, you and I were texting, and, you know, you had some comments on that. So go right ahead. Maybe some comments that probably no one's heard before. Sound all key. But go ahead, bro. But like, and this is someone who was a far. formerly a registered libertarian, you know. Like, I'm not anti-libertarian.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I still hold, you know, uh, Rothbard and Rockwell and, and, I, I, I find Lou Rockwell's a hero. I find Ray Rothbard to be, you know, someone I admire great, very much. Ludwig von Meeses, you know, like, even though there's the, the J thing, like, like, there's a lot valuable there. I don't want to, I'm such a nerd. I have hard copies of Tom, Tom Wood's book. from before meltdown.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Like, I have multiple copies of Tom Woods books that, like, I was a fan of Tom Woods 20 years ago. And this isn't, so I'm not coming from a place of, like, hating libertarians. But this convention shows you why the idea is a failure. If Chase Oliver can be free, you will not be free. The people who, you know, if Thomas Jefferson, is going to be free, then other people are going to need to be oppressed. And this is just the way it is.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And, you know, many years ago in a different, in the chat, Charles and I met it actually, I destroyed Stefan Malonyu in five steps. And I'll just give it to you guys real quick. If you accept that genes are real, the influence behavior, which everyone does, right? And you accept that those genes will necessarily seek to. propagate themselves, right? Then inferior high time preference genes
Starting point is 00:05:55 are going to constantly seek to parasite off of low time preference peoples. And in order to keep them from destroying everything you've built, you're going to have to keep them out aggressively and thus violating that. You're just going to have to be able to do the family guy meme with the
Starting point is 00:06:14 color card and be like, oh, you're darker than Jose, you have to leave. Right, like, you're just going to have to do that because the nap is a great idea if everyone's like German, English, and Scottish. But you can't do that if you're going to have a bunch of sexual perverts and drug users. and at Tesco we're delighted to announce our brand new Belmain Express store is now open where the quality you've come to expect from us is now just down the road pick up some great value essentials along with some high quality meats and fresh fruit and veg plus some tasty treats from our in-house bakery serving you up freshly baked goodness Tesco every little helps
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Starting point is 00:07:51 and people who don't work for a living in your society, right? Like Dave Smith, who I like a lot, actually, I listen to his podcast that, you know, that's kind of what generated this discussion is I was listening to the podcast. And some dude who's in a thong walks up to the guy who was going to, like, who would have walked away with the presidential nomination if he'd wanted it and says, I want to debate you on immigration?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Bro, what? I mean, you literally just arrest, you arrest him right there and you take him to jail. Yeah. Yeah, you're, you're, right? Like, wear a shirt with a collar, at least for good to sakes, man. Like, you know, it's, it's really nice. complicated that and and this is this is this notion that everyone deserves to be free and this is just not true right you know um angelo ricardo i've never met the lady i'm sure she's a wonderful
Starting point is 00:08:55 person um we're of the same age you know both mid early 40s whatever um i guess she's you know like like the best thing she could have been doing for liberty is spend her entire 20s having kids rather than wasting time in political activism, right? This is the truth, right? If, you know, you want to, you want freedom to spread, make freedom, make people who are capable of being free the majority population of the United States. Stop subsidizing the people who aren't capable of being free. How, right, libertarians, well, I'm really concerned about,
Starting point is 00:09:40 the drug war. Like, if you have a wake and bake habit, you're a slave to weed. You're not free. St. Augustine had this nailed 1,700 years ago. You have as many masters as you do vices. And unfortunately, for the Libertarian Party, you just nominated a dude who thinks the anus is a sex organ. You're never going to, like, this is not freedom. you know this this fails like basic this isn't you know traditional this is basic canty and you know moralist like like everyone acted like chase oliver the entire society would fall apart and die in one generation that's the problem with Keynesian economics it's the problem with any any position of responsibility where you put somebody who's lives a degenerate lifestyle
Starting point is 00:10:33 and i'm not trying to pick on people as like oh like you don't have 10 kids So obviously you're not fit to be in charge. Like, no, no, no, that's not, that's not what I'm saying. There are people who live perfectly decent lives who, for whatever reason, just didn't have kids. Maybe they had a hormone issue or whatever. That's not it. Right? The problem is the way these people live their lives of indulgence in vice as the reason they're libertarians.
Starting point is 00:11:09 You know, I was a libertarian because I was tired of paying taxes, and I hated the central bank. I'm still tired of paying taxes, and I still hate the central bank. I'm just not a retard about how, like, the necessity of, like, having a society. So I'm a little bit less hostile to the central bank because someone's going to print the money. But these, this idea that Hans Herman Hoppa and dude in Fong at meeting. share the same is ridiculous. It's absurd. And anyone decent left in the Libertarian Party, I know
Starting point is 00:11:47 there are a lot of you guys out there listening. Just ask yourself, if you had your, you know, libertarian Mount Rushmore, and there's Thomas Jefferson and Ludwig von Mises, and Lou Rockwell, and Hans Hoppa, ask yourself if, like, dude who thinks it's appropriate to show up to a meeting stoned out of his gourd and wearing a thong
Starting point is 00:12:14 belongs in the same conversation as those guys and they don't obviously they don't it's absurd to think that and and once you understand it like not only is this guy not capable of being free for himself he needs to be kept from making decisions for other people because they're all going to be bad. His priorities are bad. At Tesco, we're delighted to announce our brand new Belmain Express store is now open, where the quality you've come to expect from us is now just down the road. Pick up some great value essentials, along with some high-quality meats and fresh fruit and
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Starting point is 00:13:47 Well, this is the inherent issue with the non-aggression principle is that, you know, as long as somebody's not hurting you or taking your stuff, everything's fine. But it's not. And that's what the deracinated individual, which is something I'm reading through Israel, Shah 's Jewish history, Jewish religion now. And he doesn't come out and, like, criticize, use this as a criticism. He just explicitly says it. He says any society built upon individualism that isn't nationalist is easily subverted. It's easily subverted.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Any society whose government is degenerate is easily subverted. And now he's saying this as a Jew, as an Israeli Jew, he's saying this about Jews. But it could be anyone. Yeah. One thing that is always kind of like perplexed me about libertarians in retrospect is like how economically reductionist they are. But then, like, don't realize that certain types of behaviors have insane negative externalities for, like, the rest of society, especially when you allow, like, butt banditry and all this stuff to become pervasive in society. You're just asking for heightened degrees of, like, instability and just total, like, social breakdown further down the line. It's just something that has never really...
Starting point is 00:15:28 People would be like that. I mean, Jose, you and I both came up in the gun rights thing, right? Yeah. And you'll have all these people be like, guns are for everybody, including, you know, 85 IQ morons from gangbangers in Philadelphia. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. This is absolutely a dumb idea.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like, a sane society says, you know, applies to that same, you know, Peter Griffin color test and says, can you buy a gun baby you know like but but certainly not right this whole idea like we've talked about it before
Starting point is 00:16:08 but white Americans have the crime rate of Belgium the people committing all the crime all the crime in New York City are black and
Starting point is 00:16:20 Hispanics emistizo gangbangers like not Hispanics like Pete's Hispanic like Spanish and Portuguese There's not like, you know, it's, it's, it's Indio and, and, and black gangbangers committing almost all, like 90% of the crime in New York City. And of course, right, you've seen multiple cases over the last few days, you know, 13 year old held at gun point by or knife point by and raped by, you know, migrants and, right?
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's across the United States and across Europe. And the libertarian is sitting here, well, borders are a spook man. And, like, they should violate the nap. Like, no, no, no, no, no. You need to find everybody who's committed a felony, who's a foreigner, right? They're not an American citizen. Everyone who's committed a violent felony. They just need to be shot.
Starting point is 00:17:12 They're committing war on the United States. Foreigners who kill people in the United States are waging war on the United States, period. Right? That's like 30% or 40% of our federal prisons. Boom. Gone. Population reduced. and if you're like, oh, that's the state
Starting point is 00:17:29 the big, okay, then either you're going to do it or people are good, how do you think the mafia became a thing in Sicily? Right? It's also one of the few groups that's like reproducing, like, rabbits. So like, your society is going to, like, freaking become insanely dysgenic with, within a matter of time.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Right. Right. Well, here's the thing, 115 IQ autiste who's at the Libertarian National Convention. Like, let me, let me, let's. I speak your language. I'm even putting on my bowtie. So I speak your language. Let me translate real world to you, okay? You think about externalities and market conditions and other things before you have kids.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Dumb people don't think at all. And then they subsidies to have more burdens on you. So you're sitting here thinking, well, I don't know about the market conditions and what about private school and all these other things, right? If it weren't for Brown v. Board of Education, see our race war in high school series, you could send your kids to public school. They could teach Latin and calculus in public schools again if you had standards for the students who entered those public schools. that's the reason we we teach you know remedial math in college now isn't that that everyone's gotten dumber it's that more dumb people have entered college well i mean we have gotten dumber on the whole right but so if you yeah we're saying and and you have to accept right and the thing that
Starting point is 00:19:18 cured me of being a libertarian you know 15 years ago was like reading the bell curve of the understanding that this didn't apply to everybody and I became a neo-reactionary around 2007, right? And, and... Air Credit Card, brought to you by Bank of Ireland in partnership with Air Lingus. Whether you're buying your weekly basics
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Starting point is 00:20:58 people want to be free like after 2020 you still think that oh everyone just wants to be free and everyone wants to be peaceful and you well it's not only it's not only that it's not only that people don't want to be free it's that other people want to suppress people who want to be free you know the people who possess the mental capacity and the IQ to actually operate within society without becoming, you know, gangbangers and criminals, they don't like those people. And if there are people in this society who will actively seek the means to suppress or to even, you know, try to, somebody posted, I guess they did a long clip,
Starting point is 00:21:53 from that new movie Civil War. And it's the one where the guy has the glasses on Jesse Plumman's. He's an actor, and he's, like, asking people, what kind of American are you? Yeah, and he shoots one guy. He shoots another guy. The three people who say they're from Montana, I think, you know, like three different separate states, he leaves them alone and everything. And people are like, this is what Trump wants for America. And somebody made the comment, that's what you wanted for people who wouldn't get the jab.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. So sitting around and waiting for those people to gain even more power, no, I'm not doing that anymore. Well, and not only that, right, and I was talking with the fairly prominent conservative writer. I'll talk to you guys offline, local county GOP thing, and I ran into some guy that's just, anyway. But not only have we been completely vindicated, right? The Ninth Circuit comes out and says, this isn't a vaccine, right? AstraZeneca is being sued. They pulled all these things, you know, like, it conclusively harms people, all this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:23:04 You know, I could just bathe in confirmation bias for the rest of my life, for this sort of stuff. But these same people that wanted to, you know, make sure that I couldn't go to a restaurant, that I was going to lose my job, that I wasn't, you know, be permitted to drive from one state to the next, whatever, right? the same people that, like, had, you know, killed people I know because they couldn't get cancer treatment, right? I'm supposed to just forget that. And these same people, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, sorry. You, you need to be resticated. Charles Haywood has it completely right. Like, you are bad at making decisions and you need to stop. You don't need to, you don't get to touch the public fisc or the public policy any more ever because you're, you're not. You don't need to, you don't get to touch the public fisc or the public policy anymore ever. Because you're, bad at it. And Chase Oliver is bad at it. Why? Because he's a sexual pervert who's very worried about diseases and like, you know, he was all for the masking. Well, as long as it's private. Like, bro, you're not fit to be free. I'm sorry that you were abused when you were 12 or 13 or whatever it was. Because you were and you know it. And the second, the second people, you people are honest about it. You know, we're in the
Starting point is 00:24:19 middle of June, right? The month of the Secret Heart that's been totally, the month that used to be for weddings is now all about um, Chase's real people, right? If he had to choose between free people and gay people, what would he choose? He'd choose gay people every single time because that's what actually matters to him. Right? He's a libertarian because he likes
Starting point is 00:24:36 sexual degeneracy. Yeah, likes poop dick, they think. Well, I wasn't going to be that crude, but go ahead and Jose, like, go off king, right? Like, and that's the thing that people need to understand is that this is not like a different, you know, Pete thinking we should pay 17% taxes and Jose thinking we should pay 19% and me being like a total status asshole being like, no, it needs to be 23%.
Starting point is 00:24:59 This isn't that kind of discreement. The three of us could live together in a society. This is civilizational. Right. And Chase can't. And I'm not picking on him in particular because I dislike the guy or whatever. I'm sure he's a fairly affable person. But he doesn't understand the way civilizations can actually work, right? Like, we're in real trouble.
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Starting point is 00:27:26 but they could. There's no controls. You have no idea. Yeah. You know, that's the logical endpoint of invade the world, invite the world, the blowback comes to your freaking country through mass migration. Ron Paul was completely right about this, right? You know, you've invited all of these people, right? And now, right, you know, oh, they want to destroy free speech on campus. campuses. Because the very thing that we said was going to happen when you invited a bunch of Arabs into our country, like, they will resent you. They will not like us. They do not want this. Now they're here and they're complaining because you're killing their cousins. Well, who who let them in the first place? Emmanuel seller? It wasn't, wasn't my Scots, Irish ass that let these people in. So again, these people, people can't be free. Jews can't be free because the second they're free, they undermine and subvert and destroy their societies. And it's not me saying that. It's Israel Shahak saying that.
Starting point is 00:28:30 It's you Gentiles. It's everything that they've ever said. They destroy the host society of the place that they're living in because they're more comfortable in a multicultural mess. It's Barbara Lerner-Spector saying that. It's not me. I'm just repeating what they've said to me. Yeah, make New York the global standard. That's like for them, like they want to create the similarities of all that across the globe. Yeah, I think the idea that we can have civilization and it be multicultural, multi-ethnic. I mean, even Aristotle, you know, preached against multi-ethnic societies just devolving into chaos. And, I mean, I don't know where we're at now.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You know, it's, the question is, is America was founded by Scots and English. And unfortunately, they dragged a bunch of Dutch secularists with them here on the first ship. The Mayflower and not the Nina Pinsett and Sons-A-Maria. The first person who actually came off the, off of Columbus' ships, was a Sephardic Jew, Louis de Torres. But the the idea that we can, then it was, okay, we're going to invite Europe. We're going to invite white Europe here.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And white Europe came here. And then we have the Emancipation Proclamation. We have the war at the end of the war. Instead of doing the nice thing and sending the slaves back, sending them somewhere where they could prosper with their own. Haiti, places like that, they left him here and weaponized them, as George Bagby talked about. They were weapons, you know, there were groups in New Orleans that owned newspapers that were
Starting point is 00:30:31 openly calling for the massacre and the genocide of white southerners. Yeah, yeah, no, they were. Right. And, and, um, and they were black, and they were actually black owned newspapers, which is really, you know, lets you know how we should have you know about that whole Louisiana purchase thing what we were bought what we were buying well we were buying trouble and and again right
Starting point is 00:30:59 this is not oh pizza you know my list bigot like no no no no I'm post judic I'm not prejudiced I'm post judic I'm very like we've had half a century of the 1965 Immigration Act Has Los Angeles gotten better? Has Dallas gotten better? Has Houston gotten better?
Starting point is 00:31:23 We're, you know, 1965. The only time that it gets better is when white people move into neighborhoods in those cities and gentrify them. Yep. Right. But if you move out, it's white flight, which, I mean, if I'm being perfectly honest, I'm probably the leading scholar of at this point.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And it's not, not because I'm a genius, just because most people aren't honest about it. It's not, like, when you move back in, it's, you know, when you separate yourself, it's white fortress. Like, there's no winning, right? Because. Looking for an electric SUV that delivers real value and reliability, the all-new MG S5EV from Frankine-M-G offers up to 480 kilometers of range with prices from 29,000. 995 euro excluding delivery enjoy a 2000 euro deposit contribution for a limited time plus a seven-year warranty across the m g range smart and efficient discover the m g s5 evi today at frankine m g visit franken mg dot i ee tease and sees apply and now a look at the forecast we're seeing lots of wind plenty of sunshine to come and a long-term outlook that's bright for Ireland.
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Starting point is 00:33:25 $650,000 and white people are like a positive $100,000, right? No matter where you go, if they're very dependence is like remoras will always follow sharks always and they and the sharks actually get something out of that relationship what do we get as Americans from all letting all these people in
Starting point is 00:33:52 nothing like oh cheap vegetables I what another another thing that Shahawk said in the book was he he made the point of when a government starts hating
Starting point is 00:34:07 its people. And when a government starts hating its people, obviously there's disorder, there's disunity, and that allows outside influences to come in and just take over. And you mentioned earlier, I don't know if I don't remember if it was you or Jose about Hamas actually being here. And people think of that and they're like, well, you know, I know Hamas isn't as, probably isn't as well financed as China. Definitely not. But we, we, We've had Chinese spies being the chauffeurs of senators, having relationships with sitting politicians, sitting lawmakers, to believe that infiltration can't be had. And especially infiltration where you just walk over the border and then you just wait. I mean, the 9-11 hijackers came here on planes.
Starting point is 00:35:04 yeah they left on planes but the off the air is a political tool yeah yeah well there's a massive Iranian diaspora
Starting point is 00:35:16 in Los Angeles right now right and you can say oh that's all the all the anti-revolution people you think that like you think that they're not smart enough to slip in a couple people
Starting point is 00:35:27 have them mouth all the things they need to say about how much they hate the supreme leader and they hate Islam and they're secularists and just LARP for 10 years while they, you know, and or, right, the Chinese, the entire, if they, the Chinese basically own Vancouver. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Vancouver's not that far, like, if they take over Vancouver, how hard is it to get to Seattle? How hard, how many, how many Chinese are in San Francisco? How many Indians are in, right? Like, can you tell the difference between, you know, Indians can tell them, themselves, but, like, there are Indian Muslims. How hard it would be to slip a couple Pakistani fanatics who were, you know, dirt-complected into the check scene in Washington State or Oregon or San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Like, and I'm not saying, right, and, like, those people who are hostile to us, and for good reasons, I'm not saying that they're wrong to be hostile to the United States, the more you learn about our foreign policy in the last you know 30 years right then where you're like wow we've killed a lot of Muslims for no damn reason whatsoever right like um on be on behalf of that one small state right like or out of ethnic resentment right the whole balkans war was basically a uh uh ethnic resentment on their part of like they they hate slavic peasants and the whole war in ukraine right now is because they hate slavic pensions they're ass mad from a program 375 years ago. We'll recommend Pete show with Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson about that. But like this is, right, that's who's in charge of America. And we're supposed to just treat everybody as if they're the same. And this is why, you know, like libertarianism is a failure.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Right. You can't have everyone be equally free in a society where people aren't equally capable of being free. in a society where almost everyone was like British or Northern European and the economy was structured around small holdings and small businesses, then yeah, you could be free. But in a society, the prominent Republican I was talking to, one of the reasons the 2020 election was so easy to steal is effectively, there are no such. this is, again, one of the problems with the generalism. There's just a thing as a private economy. Look at the 50 biggest or the biggest employer in every state.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It's either Walmart in like 24 states. It's university systems in like six or seven other states. It's hospital systems in six or seven other states. It's a Denver international airport in Colorado. Boeing in Washington
Starting point is 00:38:28 state. Like grocery stores. Okay. Walmart If you took away the EBT money, Walmart goes out of business. If you take away the Walmart's ability to foist their employees' wages off on public assistance, Walmart goes out of business. There's not just things that when Medicare or Medicaid is 35% or 40% of their revenues as a private hospital system, right? So every major employer is effectively subsidized by their. government. And that's one of the insights of
Starting point is 00:39:06 Mussolini that like the whole idea of this free economy is it's nonsense. The state is going to take a major role in every post industrial economy in the world. It just is. There's not any way around that yet. If you can find one, write the book and we'll like, good for you. But under present conditions, there's no such thing as private economies. Well, in every major city in America, right? You've got your hospitals, those are government jobs. You've got at major universities, those are government jobs. Looking for an electric SUV that delivers
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Starting point is 00:40:29 We're upgrading the electricity grid, so every single. home, business and community can benefit. We're powering up Ireland. Learn more at airgrid.I.E. You know, your NGO complex, right? How much of that is just money laundering for rich Jews to buy political stuff that they want? Like, you know, the Environmental Center for all good things
Starting point is 00:40:55 and we love the swamp in Alabama that, you know, some rich dude buys, you know, the environmental lobby as a money, like a way not to pay taxes and, and screw over small farmers because he wants, you know, his big, right, all of these things, those jobs, that NGO complex, it's a product of the tax code or a product of diversity requirements, right? Like, how much of the, those jobs are a result of government interference? And the answer is a lot, a lot, and maybe even a majority. And under those conditions, the people being subsidized are never going to vote to cut their own throat. They're never going to vote for freedom. They're never going to say, well, you know, I mean, I know I'm a,
Starting point is 00:41:54 employed in local public schools, but this is ridiculous. We're spending $20,000 a student and we're getting no results. We should just destroy public schools. Like, no, they're never going to vote that way. So they're not fit to be free. They're not, they're never going to be free. They're dependent on the public school system existing. And you know, Anthony Fauci's a son-in-law, I think. Pete's talked to, or Tim has talked about this, right? Like his son-in-law, produces, like, DEI curriculum for public schools and makes millions of dollars. So it is, right? Like, this guy has made a fortune off of hating white people.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm, you know, like, if my children were married to people who made millions of dollars off of hating, you know, hating white people, I'm not going to be a pro-white in public. me like that's that's that's that's my grandchildren set for life because their dad wrote some sort of you know BS manual about how like colonization and oppression so when he that one of the people who are complaining about this stuff like no he's just in he just gets power from hating white people I think it was Fauci's son-in-law or whatever like this so the conditions don't exist for these people to be free and in order for the conditions to reemerge where people can be free,
Starting point is 00:43:27 you're going to have to oppress the shit out of a bunch of people. Now, I think that reality is going to do that. I'm not interested in hunting people down and making them do what I want, making everyone dress in Hugo Boss and marching step and stuff like that. But this idea that freedom is just like this naturally emergent property that spontaneously happens like they used to think that you know, spoiled grain
Starting point is 00:43:58 spontaneously generated rats like like, you know, like you hand a dude like a knife and drop them off in the woods and spontaneously constitutional government and freedom like just sprout like flowers in the spring. Brut, no they don't. Like whatever you're smoking,
Starting point is 00:44:17 it's good stuff and you should probably stop because it's just not true. Well, it's the whole idea, you know, the libertarian idea is economics and private property. And basically, you don't, you see what happens when your country becomes an economic zone. When it becomes an economic zone, somebody has to step in in order to order it. And when you have a free market zone, which, people will say, oh, it's not a free market because the government's septant. This is chicken egg shit, okay?
Starting point is 00:44:58 Stop it. Stop it. You're always going to have someone to order it. The only thing is, does the person doing the ordering, do they look like you and do they sound like you? And do they believe the same things that you believe? Sure, there's going to be some graft. But if these people aren't even from here, if they don't have allegiances to us, If they don't have allegiances to anyone in this country, except this one little 2% of the population, what do you expect?
Starting point is 00:45:31 What do you expect? I mean, you expect you're going to build civilization off of private property and economics? Why? Because you're going to have a covenant community? When you've already admitted that the communists can have a covenant community over there, but what are they going to be planning the whole time? to show up to your house and take your stuff. Looking for an electric SUV that delivers real value and reliability,
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Starting point is 00:46:58 And this is their delusion. I've talked enough. One thing I've noticed over time observing a lot of libertarians is also that they're not talking about voluntary. association or freedom of association any longer which is one of like the pillars of like an orderly society where you can actually exclude people um from your venues from like your house and all all that stuff but they don't want to exclude the they don't want to exclude the homosexuals they want to exclude people have opinions like us yeah yeah they're like have bought into like the hyper inclusivity mindset of like the ruling class and um
Starting point is 00:47:49 I just think this is a total recipe for disaster. Like, I mean, just look at it on almost like a personal level. Like, if you let anybody into your freaking social circle, like, that's just asking for all sorts of trouble and apply that to like a macrocosmic level. And it's just a civilizational disaster. But, yeah, I've just noticed that you don't really hear a lot of this freedom of association when it comes to like controversial. lifestyles or people where like you have every right to kick people expel people that don't align with your values and whatnot but like they instead they want to kick out people like us but um i just think that for example um and some of these people goes uh go so far as to support forced integration as well
Starting point is 00:48:42 i've come across numerous beltway and normy libertarians that buy into a lot of the civil rights revolution and like Shelley of E. Kramer precepts of a force integration as well. So these people have really bought into like hookline and sinker into the regimes of
Starting point is 00:49:03 holy sacraments. And even if they haven't done it consciously, they've done it unconsciously. You know, it's like I've said this before. I've said, you know, you have people, this isn't going to happen, but you have people who have these dreams of deporting every
Starting point is 00:49:19 Jew in the country. Look, that's not going to happen. And even if it did, there are influences everywhere. There are influences in education, in the banking, in
Starting point is 00:49:32 economics, in Hollywood, in the culture. We're talking about a hard reset here. Yeah. There can be no tolerance of Democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They must have to be to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting
Starting point is 00:49:54 family and kin, there can be no tolerance towards those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They, the advocates of alternative non-family kin-centered lifestyles, such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature, environment, worship, homosexuality, or communism, will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order. Sounds familiar. Yeah. Yep. Very familiar.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Right. So this is the man who did more to any than anyone, Hans Herman Hoppa in 2001, right? Like, and in the Libertarian Party, because it's unable to draw these distinctions. Like, okay, Hans just invented feudalism. Good job. Like, government by property owners is just feudalism. Right? Like, that's, and that's fine, right?
Starting point is 00:50:43 That worked for thousands of years, feudalism or variants thereof, has worked for thousands of years. this universal franchise democratic republic has barely hung on for papac century and it's falling apart. So when it's the king's road, maybe the king makes sure that the road stays paved. But they're also, like Jose was saying, you know, they're unable to discriminate. They have all these ideas about who should be let in and who should be kept out. like they want to keep us out right like if you know you tried to go in like if we if three of us tried to go into park fest right we'd be like told to leave um which fine like i don't want to be around those people anyway but they're so confused like i don't want to hang out with weed smokers i find the habit distasteful i find that what it does to people i don't want it around my kids i don't want it um you know and i'm told i can't keep those people out of my life if I just if I just said like you know personally yeah but you can't like not do business with them like well why not and now a look at the forecast we're seeing lots of wind plenty of sunshine to come and a long-term outlook
Starting point is 00:52:03 that's bright for Ireland at air grid our forecast is for a sustainable energy future we're upgrading the electricity grid so every home business and community can benefit. We're powering up Ireland. Learn more at airgrid.e. In life, you've around 29,000 days, and those days can be full of what-ifs. Like, what if it doesn't work?
Starting point is 00:52:33 But what if it does? What if you really went after it? Because life is measured in those moments. So go after everyone. Talk to AIB today, and let's see how we're going. we can turn your what ifs into what's next. AIB for the life you're after.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Allied Irish Bank's PLC is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Right. These are the people. Like, I can't engage. I can't keep out Democrats, communist, you know, environmental worshippers, you know, the people who spray paints. I think the people who do things like spray paint stonehand
Starting point is 00:53:09 should be beaten with sticks. Oh, yeah. Right. Like, like. Definitely for those problems. Right. Like, you want to just stop oil, you know, you want to make, like, then make it so you can discriminate it on the basis of housing against. People don't have to drive 80 miles to get to and from work so that we're not dependent on cars. Like, all of these problems that these people say they want to solve are actually solvable if you're honest about things as basic as race sex and like race sex nature of the Jewish question.
Starting point is 00:53:41 All of these things, they're solvable problems. but if you lie about like one and one being two and you're like no one and one is 2.75 because I felt like it you're going to get wrong answers on everything and instead of dealing with the reality of like okay people who are you know the free market rate like okay well I talked about it earlier Walmart isn't the free market okay we don't have a free market that exists And you're never going to, you're in a democratic society, you're never going to get where the largest employers in all 50 states are some form of state, you know, they're some arm at the state in some fashion or other, whether the state's been captured or not or whatever. You're never going to get via democratic means the people to go back to a free society because their rice bowl is going to get taken away. And people don't want that.
Starting point is 00:54:43 so therefore you're going to have to do something authoritarian and unfree to get the free society that you want and if you're going to have to do something authoritarian to make things work where do you the only question then is who's authoritarianism and who's getting oppressed and for a lot of these people right they want authoritarianism for normal people in favor of unnormal people you know in spokane washington right like people can ride their scooters across the you know weird rainbow thing and they're going to get they're going to get arrested well 50 years ago normal people arrested the dude and address walking down the street and now the dude and address gets stood like it does someone is getting oppressed there is no such thing as a secular state i don't think it's been published yet but i had a great conversation with a two-bit podcast uh jason and and we talked about some of this stuff right there's no such thing as a secular society or in McIntyre's book, everyone needs to read it
Starting point is 00:55:47 Total State. It's really good. I mean, this is an ending thing I didn't know, but I still learned stuff from reading it. The idea of a religiously indifferent society is nonsense. This libertarian idea of like, we're going to, just everyone's going to choose, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. that worked when you were like everyone is a northern European Christian who basically believes in a Nicene Creed and then we can kind of work from there. But when you have a million Hindus who worship demons coming to, you know, Washington State, they're never going to, like, they're never going to, like, they're never going to, right?
Starting point is 00:56:32 And 500, you know, and 500, you know, or what, 50 million mestizos who, you know, worship demons and when you're like, I really care about the rights of a dude who has the I murder people tattoo on his forehead. And you're complaining about the human rights of that guy instead of like, well, I'm really worried about like the oppression under Naibo Kelly of these gangs that like, rape people and murder people and extort people and they have the I murder people tattoo on their forehead and they have you know six six six tattooed on your forehead like if you
Starting point is 00:57:13 have that tattooed on your forehead I'm just going to believe you and throw you in prison because I had I had one of those libertarians the other day when pointed out with Kelly you know posting up some article about you know some allegedly innocent kid who got caught up
Starting point is 00:57:30 and all this and I'm like you just want people dead you just you you want the murder to keep on going how do you deal with this how do you I mean this is probably somebody who lives in a state that's 95% white well and
Starting point is 00:57:47 this notion this is this is the thing that again libertarians they can't deal with things in tranches it's all like binary it's either like well everyone's fair nobody's free and now a look the forecast. We're seeing lots of wind, plenty of sunshine to come and a long-term outlook that's
Starting point is 00:58:07 bright for Ireland. At Airgrid, our forecast is for a sustainable energy future. We're upgrading the electricity grid so every home, business and community can benefit. We're powering up Ireland. Learn more at airgrid.i.e. In life, you've around 29,000 days. those days can be full of what ifs. Like, what if it doesn't work? But what if it does? What if you really went after it? Because life is measured in those moments. So go after everyone. Talk to AIB today and let's see how we can turn your what ifs into what's next. AIB for the life you're after. Al-Aid Irish Bank's PLC is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Okay, let's just deal with trenches. the dude with the i-murder people tattoo on his face
Starting point is 00:59:05 let's just let's just tranche this out maybe maybe the guy with the tattoo in his face we just treat all the guys with the i-murder people tattoo on their face as guilty maybe we treat everyone with the i-murdered people tattoo like on a sleeve that there's under their shirt maybe we treat them as suspicious maybe people with no tattoos we treat them as like i don't know maybe but the but the guy
Starting point is 00:59:31 with a tattoo that says, I kill people on his face, like literally on his forehead, six, six, six. Like, okay, that guy's, that guy's a Satanist who murders people. And Naeepa Kelly talked about this in his interview with Tucker Carlson, right? They're Satanists in MS-13. They sacrifice children to the devil in MS-13. You can't live with those people. Okay. And Jason's great line, we don't live in a civil anymore. We don't build beautiful things. We don't have, there's no carrying this forward
Starting point is 01:00:07 through time because people don't get married and don't have kids and what can you point to, right? That we like, oh, well, this, this, I bequeath unto you,
Starting point is 01:00:17 my son, go forth, therefore, and do likewise, bequeath this unto my grandchildren and my great-grandchildren and my great-great-grandchildren and I won't even see that they'll be able to point and say,
Starting point is 01:00:27 my great-great-grandfather planted those trees and you, my son get to sit underneath those trees and do the same thing, you know, like, there's none of that going on. And the reason there's none of that going on is we're being attacked and taxed and and parasited off of constantly by people who didn't build the civilization in the first place. And we're told that these other people showing up at our house to eat our food and sleep in
Starting point is 01:00:59 our living room have just as much a right to that stuff as our own children. And it's ridiculous. Yeah. Well, this has been, we've been going about almost 50 minutes getting pretty deep and everything. You want to watch something that's somebody who was trying to tell us something about 30 years ago, but also has a really good sense of humor about it and has a good sense of humor about him. And we can listen to this and stop it as we go through to comment. I have an audio that I resurrected of Sam Francis at the Rothbard Rockwell conference from 1995, November, and I think it's poignant. I think people should hear this, which is about immigration and what he was saying
Starting point is 01:01:51 technically 29 and a half years ago. You want to switch over to that and listen to that? Sam is always worth to listen. All right. Speech was called, and apparently Sam, he's going to say he submitted the speech and then Lou Rockwell picks the title of it. So let's get this going here. Let me make sure, I mean, unshare this real quick just to make sure that it's, that the audio
Starting point is 01:02:22 is working because sometimes it does, you have to check that. Audio works. All right, good. All right. Let's start listening to this and scream at me to stop any time, and I'll pause it, all right? Slam the golden door, Dr. Francis. It's always an honor to be asked to speak to the annual RRRR conference. And one of the interesting things about speaking at them is that Lou Rockwell always picks the titles of your speech.
Starting point is 01:02:53 They're usually very good titles, but it's always interesting to see if the speaker understands them in the same sense that Lou did, let alone whether the audience understands either one of us. In the case of the title, slam that golden door, I think I'm correct in assuming that Lou did not want me to attack the gold standard. The golden door, of course, comes from the last line of one of Lou's favorite poems, the one by Emma Lazarus on the Statue of Liberty, the line that reads, I lift my lamp beside the golden door. The golden door, meaning presumably the gateway to the utopia of goodies that the European immigrants expected to find in the United States. The statute, of course, never had
Starting point is 01:03:40 anything to do with the open borders policy that it was hijacked to symbolize. It was intended simply as a commemoration of our national independence and our Republican liberty. But Ms. Lazarus's poem, written well before the erection of the statue, was the agent of the hijacking. As Stephen Birmingham, claims in his book, Our Crowd, on the Jewish families of New York. She wrote the poem as an effort to raise funds for putting the statue up, but because she was by background a Sephardic Jew, and because many of the recent Jewish immigrants to the United States were German and East European Jews, the latter regarded her line about the wretched refuse of your teeming shores to be a nasty crack about them.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Our civilization is always going to just be about inter-Jewish fighting. Well, they weren't wrong, though. I mean, if you've ever been in an insidic neighborhood, oof, it smells, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's the story of the West. It's basically, like, the only people with political, that can engage in political debates
Starting point is 01:04:45 and actually have concrete public policies are the redacted. So, yeah. So the result was that the money raised to put up the Statue of Liberty was largely collected. among Sephardic Jews who had come to this country earlier, and the German and East European Jews tended to boycott the fundraising campaign. The irony of this story, of course, is that a statue in a memorial hijacked to celebrate immigration and the assimilationist ideal of the melting pot
Starting point is 01:05:16 was actually an occasion for ethnic resentment. And despite the eventual assimilation of most European immigrants of the 19th century, that kind of ethnic conflict is in fact the major effect of uncontrolled immigration. uncontrolled immigration, and that is precisely why we should slam the golden door and erase Ms. Lazarus' goopy doggerel from what ought to be an inspiring monument to American and Republican liberty. Immigration policy, of course, is now a major political issue, and nowhere more so than in the state where we are meeting, whose citizens have done so much to make it a national
Starting point is 01:05:51 issue through passage of Proposition 187 last year. Prop 187 passed overwhelmingly despite the concerted opposition of the Republicans and the Democrats and the establishment media, and despite the threats of violence to many of the grassroots activists who work so hard for it. Ever since then, immigration reform has been muttered about in the Gingrich Congress, though nothing has been done about it. Both Gingrich and Dick Army, as well as the Clinton administration, are opposed to controlling legal immigration at all, and our beloved neo-conservative friends are militantly opposed.
Starting point is 01:06:28 opposed to any reform. Indeed, as Morton Kondraki wrote in his column in Roll Call last year, it was William Crystal, now editor of the neo-conservative weekly reader, excuse me, I mean the weekly standard, who persuaded Jack Kemp and Bill Bennett that it would be a terrific idea for them to come out against 187 on the eve of the election. It was, in fact, a terrific idea because more than anything else, the Kemp Bennett denunciation of 187 led to the collapse of their political careers. As an encore, the same three have been pushing the Colin Powell candidacy, which has now turned out to be even more of a bigger bomb for them than their earlier brainstorm.
Starting point is 01:07:16 The perfidy of neoconservatives in the Republican establishment on immigration was bad enough, but even worse was the conduct of our own government in the wake of the 187 victory. After massive concerted intimidation by Mexicans in the United States against Californians who supported the proposition and after open intervention against the proposition by the Mexican government itself, including its own diplomats in California, the U.S. Ambassador in Mexico City actually apologized to the Mexican government for the passage of 187. And soon afterwards, several other Latin American diplomats also denounced the United States for permitting it to pass. I don't know what they thought we were supposed to do about it. It was a state measure. And discussed having it invalidated by the United Nations in the World Court. Of course, our own government did nothing to protest Mexican intervention in our internal affairs and politics.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And where emigration is concerned, that's par for the course. Even after passage of 187, the courts lost no time in declaring it unconstitutional, and school officials in California announced they wouldn't obey it anyway. I mentioned these incidents because they show the deep division in our society over the immigration issue. The elites, whether political or cultural or judicial, are for immigration, while the vast majority of the American people are opposed to it. 187, you'll remember, passed over overwhelmingly by about 60%, or more than that, even though polls supposedly showed that it might. So this was 30 years ago, and of course the judge who invalidated Prop 187 was a member of the tribe.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Have you looked at California's public finances lately? They're a mess. And almost the entirety of California's public fiscal problems, whether that's collapsing infrastructure, sky high housing prices, public schools that are overcrowded and unusable hospital system that doesn't function in any. longer and you know like across the board illegal immigration is if not the overwhelming cause
Starting point is 01:09:30 the plurality of the problem and you can you know other people have done the analysis you can look it up but we're talking trillions of dollars not billions trillions of dollars that california has spent in the 30 years since sam gave this speech and the people of california the real california it's Not people who, you know, who's just happened to be born in a free hospital in Los Angeles and then got to vote 18 years later because of a footnote in some stupid Supreme Court decision, right? We are talking trillions of dollars. All of California's problems. You know, oh, we're out of water.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Why? Because there's 50 million people in California. That's why. Why are there 50 million people in California? Because 15 million illegal immigrants have shown up in the last. 30 years for 40 years right? Why are housing prices ridiculous? Why are people having
Starting point is 01:10:26 to drive six hours every day, you know, to and from work? You know, people driving from Bakersfield into Los Angeles. You know, and you know, Sam Francis was right about everything, you know, everyone needs to read all of his stuff. He was a profit
Starting point is 01:10:42 without honor and his own land. It's a shame he died so young. But all of the problems in California are because of illegal immigration and in Mexican migration generally or Asian migration or whatever Los Angeles used to be known as Puritangeles there were so many wasps in in Los Angeles that it was known as Puritangeles and now it's can't have that yeah I mean there how are they going to
Starting point is 01:11:16 survive unless they're multicultural right so It's, it's not just, oh, Sam is saying this stuff and he's, he's a resentful, you know, no, Bill Crystal is a psychopath who's agitated for war with Iran for 30 years. His, he's failed so spectacularly that the weekly standard closed. You know, this is not some guy that, like, there's a slight disagreement. This guy hates ordinary Americans. Bill Crystal does. And just as Sam talks, think about what's happened into those intervening 30 years.
Starting point is 01:12:01 You know, and is it better or is it worse? It's like when you go to the eye doctor and you get new glasses, right? And they'll do the one and then say, is one better or one worse? Look at the lens of what Sam says and then what the mainstream media says and ask yourself, which one's better, which one's worse?
Starting point is 01:12:18 and Ron Dunn's, God bless him, was one of the main movers behind this Prop 187. You know, that's how he first got his start in politics, I think. And, right, look who's behind it and look who's right about things. And I just, you don't want to know how an ice Scotts-Irish kid from the middle of the woods became an raging anti-Semite with fans all over the world.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I say that because I have one fan in Australia and one fan in England. You probably have a secret global south following, too. Possibly. No, I'll blow Español, so I don't know if I have, like, Argentinian fans or not. But, like, this is why, right? Like, every single time, right? Emma Lazarus is a Sephardic Jew who puts this stupid, you know, statue, poem on a statue.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And so my country has to be destroyed. And just Sam, just, it's a, it's a, It's a criminal indictment of our ruling class. And I've listened to this before. But, you know, anyway, I've talked to the same. I want to chime in on Prop 187. It does feel quaint. It's been, like, well, like, 30 years since, like, it's passed.
Starting point is 01:13:39 But to add another person that was involved in successfully passing this was the late Justin Riemondo, people tend to forget that, apart from his anti-war. war activism. He was a big time immigration patriot and he was very active in the Bay Area trying to push for this measure to be passed. But this does show one other thing too. In this anti-white managerial system, organic expressions of democracy where people like what to express like a majoritarian interest, like say, for example, halting. mass migration could just be completely overturned
Starting point is 01:14:23 by the snap of the finger from some freak show judge that is likely as you said the member of the tribe and just like and there goes your sacred democracy there in the case of the 187 like the judge was a Jew
Starting point is 01:14:37 like 100% yeah so yeah but yeah but yeah like um but yeah like this just goes to show um that this system um that this system um Despite what they talked about, like, sacred democracy, it's just, like, nonsense because
Starting point is 01:14:53 any time we try to express a majoritarian interest of preserving a Euro-America, it just completely gets resented by these petty tyrants in the managerial state. What I was going to say is I was just going to do a quick little description of Prop 187. Basically what it said was it prohibited illegal immigrants from using non-emergency health care, so they could use emergency health care, public education and other services in the state of California. Voters passed it. Now, I'm going to share this. Okay? Look up here.
Starting point is 01:15:36 When you search, when you Google Prop 187, the first thing that comes up is Library of Congress research guides. This is a dot-gov website. What does it say? Ninety-four, California's Prop 187, a Latin X resource guide. And you think your government cares about heritage Americans more than they do, people who just walked over the border illegally? A Latin ex-resource guide, and that's a government website? Are you insane? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'm going to start playing Sam again, all right? The government of the people. Yeah, yeah. Populism, right? We're going to have a populist revolt. Oh, we are the government. Like, yeah, totally, bro. Incidents because they show the deep division in our society over the immigration issue. The elites, whether political or cultural or judicial, are for immigration,
Starting point is 01:16:42 while the vast majority of the American people are opposed to it. 187, you'll remember, passed overwhelmingly by about 60 percent, or more than that, even though polls supposedly showed that it might fail, and many commentators predicted its failure. But at the same time, and for some years now, almost all public opinion polls show that a large majority of Americans of all races and ethnic backgrounds overwhelmingly oppose immigration and want it controlled or even stopped. But despite that clear message of massive popular opposition, immigration largely from the third world non-European countries continues at the highest levels ever known in American history and is beginning to exert significant long-term effects on what America looks like and what America will be in the not too distant future. In 1992, the U.S. Census Bureau published a report that spelled out the future demographic features
Starting point is 01:17:37 of the United States as a result of present day and projected immigration patterns and the birth rates of the immigrants. The report concluded that by about the year 2050, the Hispanic part of the U.S. population will have grown from 9.4 percent of the population to 21 percent, that the Asian and Pacific Islander portion will have risen from 3.5 percent to 10.7 percent, that the black population is projected to almost double from 32 million to 62 million. But that the non-Hispanic white share of the U.S. population would steadily fall from 75% in 1992 to about 53% in 2050.
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Starting point is 01:18:51 In life, you've around 29,000 days, and those days can be full of what-ifs. Like, what if it doesn't work? But what if it does? what if you really went after it because life is measured in those moments so go after everyone talk to a iB today and let's see how we can turn your what ifs into what's next a iB for the life you're after allied irish banks plc is regulated by the central bank of ireland what's it now 60% is white population 60% now oh in the u.s lower than
Starting point is 01:19:31 that because it counts um arabs and jews as white and may all forgive me for using this word but armenians as well while non-whites and Hispanics will increase by some 120 million between 1992 and 2050 the non-Hispanic white population will grow by mere 11 million in that period and by the middle of the next century whites will be on the eve of becoming a minority in the United States. The report finds that non-Hispanic whites, quote, would contribute nothing to population growth after 2030 because the non-Hispanic group would be declining in size, unquote. What this means, of course, is that by the middle of the next century, for the first time
Starting point is 01:20:23 in American history, the white or European portion of the population, which settled North America, have founded the United States, and has been the dominant core of the American population and American culture from its origins, will have become a minority in its own country. The middle of the next century is no longer a date in a science fiction novel. It's less than 60 years away, and young children, born of white parents in the last couple of years, will live to see themselves become a minority in their own country. It is all but unimaginable that this demographic and racial revolution will not have the most far-reaching consequences for the political and cultural future of the United States.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And we already see the beginnings of those consequences in what some are already calling the Brazilianization of America, the transformation of the country into a third world society and economy in which a small slice of the population prevails at the top over a mass of economically depressed non-whites throughout the rest of the society. We also see the consequences in the emergence of an explicit anti-white racial consciousness among both native blacks and immigrants, including a bubbling erodentist and separatist movement among Latinos in Southern California and elsewhere. And we see the results of immigration in the rise of multiculturalism in both education
Starting point is 01:21:48 and increasingly in private institutions, where the heritage of white European Americans is debunked and discarded, and European Americans themselves are dispossessed of their country and their culture. Of course, there is an alternative view that the United States possesses some inherent or almost magical capacity to absorb and assimilate its immigrants, and that that process will continue to work even under the large-scale immigration and different birth rates that the Census Bureau reports. The same people who argue for our apparently infinite capacity to assimilate immigrants and
Starting point is 01:22:23 claim that the massive infusion of non-Westerners will have no cultural effect on the receiving culture, also often argue that the immigrants will have a positive cultural effect, that they bring habits of hard work, ambition, religion, and the much touted family values to a country and a people that has become lazy, irreligious, and licentious. Canning pick up on that message at all? I mean, all the time, you know, oh, the budget deficit, the budget deficit, the budget deficit. Who's causing the budget deficit?
Starting point is 01:23:02 Who's causing it? Like, you just invited 50 million people who are not tax recipients and don't pay taxes. I just saw something, I'll have to find it. Like, 130, I think it was white papers. Just publish something on telegram. $138 billion a year in remittances leave this country. That's a, and if you, right, that's just money that just goes out of the economy. It doesn't circulate.
Starting point is 01:23:28 It's just a pure deadweight loss. Remittances from this country, right? How many billions of dollars in, I don't know, someone's out there's probably done the work, since this speech have gone to Mexico. Just Mexico by itself. because it was like $30 billion per year in remittances. I'll do you even better. I would bet you the rent that $100 billion have left Mexico just from California all by itself since this speech was done. Why is California falling apart?
Starting point is 01:24:11 I don't know, $100 billion just left the state. Yeah, I mean, in Central America, I'd argue it's even like more pronounced because the majority of foreign direct investment, like in countries like Guatemala, like El Salvador, pre-Buceli, came from remittances. So they're even like smaller like banana republic economies as well. All right. I'm going to keep playing. Moreover, the cliché of the immigrationists, those who oppose virtually all restrictions on immigration, is that America is, after all, a nation of immigrants, and that it would be un-American, indeed xenophobic or racist, to restrict immigration.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yet the fact is that throughout our history, the United States has repeatedly restricted immigration in order to select the kind of population and the kind of culture that its people wanted. There is nothing un-American about restricting immigration for the United States. those reasons. This has been true since the earliest days of American history. The leaders of both colonial Massachusetts and Virginia did not allow just anyone to come to those colonies who wanted to come. An applicant for immigration to Massachusetts had to be interviewed by the Massachusetts Bay Company to determine if he met the religious and moral standards of the colony, and the
Starting point is 01:25:39 Puritan founders of Massachusetts deliberately excluded both British aristocrats and the British poor from immigrating. They wanted a middle-class society. The leaders of Colonial Virginia also sought to restrict immigration so as to select a population that would contribute to the building of the kind of society they wanted. At the time of the American Revolution, the founding fathers were virtually unanimous in opposing easy immigration to the new republic. Last year in my remarks to the Randolph Club in Washington, I quoted some of the founders on immigration using Dr. Wayne Sutton's research in his monograph, The Myth of Open Borders. And I'll repeat some of that material here.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Both Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, who rarely agreed on anything else, were at one in their view of immigration. Jefferson wrote in his notes on the state of Virginia that immigrants from monarchical countries should be discouraged from immigrating. Quote, they will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, or if able to throw them off, it will be an exchange for an understanding. unbounded licentiousness, passing as usual from one extreme to the other. It would be a miracle, were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. Alexander Hamilton,
Starting point is 01:26:56 in a speech of 18.2, agreed. The opinion expressed in notes on Virginia, he said, is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind, to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners. The influx of foreigners must therefore tend to produce a heterogeneous compound to change and corrupt the national spirit, to complicate and confound public opinion to introduce foreign propensities. That was Hamilton and Jefferson agreeing on something. I imagine that. Basically what Hamilton said was expounding off of what Thomas Jefferson said is that if you have... And now a look at the forecast.
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Starting point is 01:29:00 And it's not just here either. So the Euro soccer championships are going on right now, right? And you have Albanians living in England waving the Albanian soccer flag. right they'll go to games you know i don't know where all the games are being played forgive me i just know that's going on but like you i've seen pictures of foreign you know albanians diaspora albanians cheering for the albanian team in you know their new host country right just just like when los angeles in los angeles when mexico in the united states played years ago
Starting point is 01:29:36 right it was a basically it was a mexican home game because so many mass americans Mexicans shared for the Mexican team. Yeah, I interviewed that guy who was just like saying, like, yeah, this feels like a foreign country. Right. And this, and it's not just here. It's all over Europe, right? You know, they all go home, right?
Starting point is 01:29:58 Like, oh, you have to let me stay here. It's a dangerous shit hole. Then why do you go back to Syria on vacation twice a year? Right. Why are you constantly sending money and going back? to these places, right? Why, if it's, if it's so awful, are, you know, do you go back to Pakistan to pick a wife and bring her back to England?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Why? Oh, because you're just, you're here. And for the reasons that, you know, are elucidated in a bell curve and elsewhere and that every one of these people knew, this is the Rothfeld-Brockwell report, Jeff Tucker was there, Paul Gottfried was there, all these. You know, every libertarian in 1995 knew the truth about race and sex and the JQ. They all knew. The honest ones just didn't lie about it.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Right. In 1995, the average libertarian knew what was up. And they understood, and they might have not used the language that I use, but they understood what I understand. I learned a lot of what I know from these people. and the fact that today's libertarians lie, they know the truth. And they lie to make the world less free.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Is why they're just... Yeah, the 90s... No, go ahead, go ahead, Jose. The 90s were a peculiar period, because I remember there was a debate between Peter Brimelow and then I forget who that... ACLU president at the time was Ira Glancer or whatever I guess freaking name but that was like a very peculiar period where you did see like the emergence of like so-called based dissident thought somewhat like grow and almost turn quasi mainstream but man like that has declined significantly over the last three decades.
Starting point is 01:32:08 with, like, any type of, like, serious political discourse on race and whatnot, just confined to, like, our podcast, basically. Yeah, the, I forget what I was going to say. Damn it. All right. Let's just, let's continue with Sam. It'll come back to me. It always does.
Starting point is 01:32:31 George Washington wrote to John Adams in 1794 that my opinion with respect to immigration is that except of useful. mechanics and some particular description of men and professions, there is no use of encouragement. And later he wrote, I have no intention to invite immigrants. Even if there are no restrictive acts against it, I am opposed to it altogether. These sentiments were commonplace among the leaders and founders of the American Republic. And of course, they were mainly thinking of European immigrants. It probably never occurred to most of them that Asians, Africans, and Latin Americans would one day displace, even the Europeans who's coming, they opposed.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Much of the early American legislation against immigration was enacted at the state or local rather than the national level. And in the 1820s and 1830s, Boston, New York, Baltimore, and New Orleans all sought to curtail the practice of some European countries of dumping their paupers, vagrants, and criminals into U.S. ports. And they were talking about white Europeans. that's the way they talked about them. Well, were they wrong, though? I mean, look what...
Starting point is 01:33:42 Like, this is... Right, like Venezuela, very smartly, right? They're a geopolitical enemy of ours for reasons. Basically emptied all their prisons out and said, go to America. And tens of thousands of Americans have been victims of Venezuelan crime in the last year and a half. Because crime is committed by criminals,
Starting point is 01:34:02 and we got a bunch of criminals just dumped on our... Everybody, I think those 2.0. Yep. That's exactly what's happening. One reason there was not more federal legislation earlier was that immigration came in waves, and when there was no immigrant tide, there was no reason to build legal walls against it. But whenever the tide of immigration has increased, Congress in the past has always taken measures to stop it or control it. Indeed, in the very first congressional statute, regulating the naturalization of foreigners as citizens, passed in 1790, it was explicitly stipulated that citizenship was restricted, quote,
Starting point is 01:34:40 to any alien being a free white person, unquote. There were other stipulations, namely that you had to be a sound moral character and you had to be economically self-supporting. The myth of open borders, the myth that we are a nation of immigrants, Emma Lazarus' myth of the Golden Door, always open to anyone who shows up, is simply a lie. In the course of our history, we have had immigration restrictions based on economic condition, race, religion, morals, health, political views, criminal background, cultural habits, and mental capacities.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Measures to those effects were passed in 1880s and 1890s. And eventually the 1924 Immigration Act enacted the national origins test by which immigrants from other countries could enter the United States in proportion to the past contributions of those countries to the American population. The 1924 Act remained the law until it was replaced by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. But the new law retained the national origin system
Starting point is 01:35:46 and also excluded aliens who were, among other things, convicted criminals, communists, anarchists, drug addicts, drug pushers, lunatics, prostitutes, sex deviates, or mental or physical defectives. See, how did we get libertarians in this country? Why is Sam talking about the Libertarian National Committee? And now, a look at the forecast. We're seeing lots of wind, plenty of sunshine to come,
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Starting point is 01:37:03 Get the Faxby Drinkaware visitdrinkerware.i.e. while stocks last. Of course, today that list sounds more like a description of the Clinton cabinet than anything else. Only in 1965 was the national origin system abandoned. Although both supporters and opponents of the 1965 law, that did away with the National Origins Test, argued that the new law should not or would not alter the traditional cultural character and ethnic composition of the country.
Starting point is 01:37:38 It was, in other words, a given of the 1965 debate that retaining our traditional ethnic and cultural character was desirable, and Congress consented to the new law on that understanding. It was, of course, an understanding that was in error since the abolition of the National Origins' test made possible the third world invasion that we are seeing today, and the racial and cultural revolution we and our children will live to experience. My point in recounting this history is merely to show that throughout our national history,
Starting point is 01:38:09 we have never followed a policy of open borders or subscribe to the notion that anyone who wants to come here barring convicted criminals may immigrate. I'm not all that familiar with the immigration histories of other countries, but it would seem to me that the United States throughout its history, up until very recently, has had one of the most restrictive and one of the most carefully selective immigration policies in the world. Yet despite the economic cost of the taxpayers of aliens who receive welfare, education, health care, law enforcement, and other services, the major problem that Matt... But Sam, there's Americans who collect that too, so why aren't you complaining about them?
Starting point is 01:38:50 Typical libertarian response. Well, I don't think they should vote either. Yeah, I think they should be kicked out. I mean, unless they need help. I mean, unless they're, if they're heritage Americans and they can't work, if it's, I mean, we'll take care of our own. If an otherwise productive citizen gets hit by a bus and needs help for a little while, that's one thing. But, you know, fifth generation welfare recipients who have never had a job in their life, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:21 like that's a different thing entirely yeah gone bye yeah massive third world immigration presents to us remains cultural supporters of immigration like ben watenberg and other neoconservatives who argue that even third world immigrants assimilate quickly simply subscribe to a superficial idea of what culture is they seem to think that once an immigrant has started wearing t-shirts and blue jeans learned pigeon english eaten a few quarter-pocket with cheese and started slobbering over Michael Jackson and Madonna.
Starting point is 01:39:55 He has become an American. In a minimal sense, perhaps he has. But in the first place, even in the minimal sense, immigrants often seem to assimilate less than as supposed. One test of this is language, and the evidence is that an increasing number of immigrants continue to speak a foreign language at home. In New York City, for example, in 1980,
Starting point is 01:40:18 35 percent of all residents spoke a foreign language at home. By 1992, that had increased 41 percent, and nearly half of these said they did not speak English well. In Miami, nearly 75 percent speak a foreign language at home, and 67 percent say they don't speak English well. While some 45 different languages are spoken in the New York City school system, some 60 different languages were spoken in the homes of students at Los Angeles's Hollywood High School in 1980, and many as 83 languages were spoken in Los Angeles County. In 1989, a Census Bureau report showed a 40 percent increase in the 1980s of those who speak
Starting point is 01:41:02 a foreign language at home. In just one year between 1990 and 91, the number of limited English students in American schools increased by 14.3 percent to more than 2 million. Thus, even by the standards of minimal assimilation, the evidence is that an increasing number of immigrants are continuing to adhere to languages other than the traditional language of American civilization, government and literature. In the absence of common language, a common culture, and a common nationality are simply meaningless. Language is merely the minimal test of assimilation. Another and more meaningful test is religion. We know that there are now more Muslims in the United
Starting point is 01:41:44 States than there are Episcopalians. Though admittedly the Muslims may be closer to traditional Christianity. We also know that cults like Santa Ria are highly popular among Caribbean immigrants and that the practice of sorcery and animal sacrifice that Santa Ria and similar cults indulge strike us as highly offensive and barbaric. There was a fairly recent case before the Supreme Court in which the Santa Ria cult in Hyaliyah, Florida, challenged the constitutional law that banned Um, so you'll see some people on the right talk about Catholicism from Latin America being, um, a factor that can make the U.S. more conservative and preserve it's more careful.
Starting point is 01:42:34 this is like totally totally ignorant of the fact that a lot of Catholicism in Latin America especially when you go to countries with people of largely Ameri Indian or Moloto extraction tends to be very syncretic that it blends a lot of animalistic
Starting point is 01:42:54 rituals, animist rituals and all this crazy shit of witchcraft and sorcery that turns that Catholicism into something completely different from European how Catholicism, just to put that out there. So, I'm, I just wanted to chime in on that real quick, Pete. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I was laughing, but there's a heroic bishop, Bishop de Casimir, who was one of maybe half a dozen bishops to actually resist Vatican 2, a great, a great hero. He was German. you can look at the Plino de Correa de Oliveira is like I think he's Spanish the traditional movement
Starting point is 01:43:42 in Latin America is white it's it's Iberian it's it's people who were and it's Iberian and German and Italian the the not only
Starting point is 01:43:57 and I've worked in doing like, you know, religious, like volunteering religious ed in some of these places in California many years ago, like 20 years ago. And, um, not only are the
Starting point is 01:44:13 Latino immigrants like barely catechized or, you know, like, they're barely literate in Spanish, let alone English. Um, but they're, they'll say they're Catholic and they go to mass every, you know, like, oh yeah, I remember, like, it's Sunday. right and they'll wake up from you know saturday night of you know 20 model especials and you know three three spliffs and they're like oh yeah i should probably go to church on sunday once every six months they have no idea what any like any of the creed means they barely
Starting point is 01:44:52 know their you know uh no is their padre like their grandma might kind of like know the rosary or something, but in terms of actually practicing the faith, they just don't. And it only gets worse as they live in America where there's more material indulgence. And so this idea that
Starting point is 01:45:12 all these Joel Barry types and have of like, these people are going to be conservative. No, they're not. They're state dependent. They're highly prone to vice. They don't They don't understand Christianity at all, and most of them, like, are, you know, it depends
Starting point is 01:45:34 of what flavor, but, like, you know, Santa Wente, right? Like, you know, they have, they're, they worship demons. They just put a coat of Aztec, like, they're still the Azteca underneath, and, and they're indulging in all kinds of, like, really wicked shit. And anybody that wants to pretend that, that the Catholics, the Catholicism of like Cornine Cortez and these people is the same thing as it's just not it's not no it's not absolutely not it's just like completely wishful thinking and like totally ignorant of what's actually taking place on the ground there and now a look at the forecast we're seeing lots of wind plenty of sunshine to come and a long-term outlook that's bright for Ireland At AirGrid, our forecast is for a sustainable energy future.
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Starting point is 01:47:34 a Santa Ria God who apparently received his name from a hit song recorded in the 1940s by Desi Arnaz. In 1983, as Haitian immigrants prepared to... That's a demon, and it's bad, okay? Yeah. Yeah, and he was on... He was, in the 50s, he was on American television singing songs about Babaloo. I love you on the biggest TV show on the planet. Yeah, which is still very funny, but, but like, these are not people, like, oh, this ancient, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Santa Berte's a cult that's come up in the last 30 years, right? Like, they just made up Saint Death, Patrons, San of Criminals and Smugglers. Like, there's a demon that said, hey, no, no, no. hey, I'll give you power if you sacrifice babies and give me money and drugs and whatever else, right? And I'll give you earthly power and these people made deals with demons. And I'm supposed to pretend at, you know, local parish X, Y, Z, that their demon worship with, you know, occasional road three beats slapped on it is the same thing as my, you know, Patronos, turquies and jellis,
Starting point is 01:48:55 not the same thing. They're not the same thing. They're not the same thing. These people are not Christians. They're not Catholics. They're not Americans. And in pretending that they are is a vile offense.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I hate it. Anyway, more Sam. All good, man. All good. to embark on their illegal voyages to the United States in anticipation of President Clinton's lifting the ban on them, one of the things they almost always made sure to do before setting out was to get a voodoo priest to use magic to help them make it across the sea. The Washington Post interviewed one Haitian who had already lost 23 relatives to drowning in two attempts to come to America, but he told them, quote, we did not have the right magic last time.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Next time we will have more powerful magic. That will make us invisible. Who knows? He may be among us today. Indeed, in Miami, so serious has Santa Ria and Voodoo become that officials at the county courthouse have instituted what they call the Voodoo Squad, whose job it is to go around in the morning and clean up the bodies of dead chickens, goats, pigeons, lizards, and other voodoo items from the courthouse grounds. It seems that adherents of satiria and voodoo engage in these rituals on the grounds before their legal cases go to court.
Starting point is 01:50:25 And in some cases, they sprinkle voodoo powders on the chairs of the judges to influence the judge's decisions. It actually may be more effective than trying to argue the law to many of our judges. What we are seeing in the demographic and racial revolution that mass immigration causes, then, is also a cultural revolution. a displacement of the traditional British and European culture of the peoples who discovered, created, and conquered North America and the United States by cultures and cultural fragments that are entirely non-Western. And if this revolution today is far more obvious in high impact immigration states in areas like Southern California and Florida, it soon will become just as obvious as immigration
Starting point is 01:51:07 begins to spread out into other regions of the country. then represents more than just higher costs for welfare or dislocation in employment. Immigration, more than any other demographic phenomenon of our time, means the end of Western and American civilization, and of the people who created that civilization as we have known them. And that meaning is upon us today. Slamming the golden door, if that is how we should think of protecting our nation, our people, and our civilization, from the invasion that threatens them is absolutely essential, nor would it involve either increases in the power of the federal government or any unusual expense or
Starting point is 01:51:47 any departure from our real traditions as Americans. Ending immigration, legal and illegal, like so many of our other problems in this country, is really a simple matter. But it does require overcoming the political power of the business and political elites who want mass immigration for their own selfish purposes. And it requires an understanding that this nation and its culture and the Republican liberty that grows out of that culture are not the creatures of an intellectual abstraction, an idea or a proposition, but that they are the product of a particular people and a particular
Starting point is 01:52:20 historical heritage. We cannot preserve our liberty by building statues and wheezing bad poetry or pretending that every other culture in the world is really composed of people who would be good Americans if only they had a chance. But only by preserving the people and reclaiming the heritage upon which our freedom really rests and without which it will vanish. As Peter Brimelow says in his recent book, Alien Nation, like a candle in the gale. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:52:51 One million percent vindicated. Name one thing he got wrong. And not only that, but there's a Peter Brumelow he mentions, he mentions this Christmas on Sky. This Christmas on Sky. you can turn a silent night into stoppage time delights An old mince pie
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Starting point is 01:53:54 so every home, business and community can benefit we're powering up Ireland learn more at airgrid.i Sam himself, I forget who else was at this thing, but all, you know, Pat Buchanan, 100% vindicated, all of these people who were telling the truth about race, about the JQ, about women, about all this stuff, 30 years ago, were 100% proven right. and the people unwilling to admit that those people were right are either, one, so ignorant that they don't deserve publicly comment. It's like an illiterate person talking about Shakespeare. Or two, they are lying.
Starting point is 01:54:52 In which case, they're liars and you can't trust what they say in the public square. Right. So in either case, they shouldn't have a voice in the in the res public the matters of public right so the libertarians who say oh well we can just have open borders no you're lying you're lying you're stupid in ignorant and so you shouldn't talk and the people who think that you should be able to debate public matters while wearing a thong no no this is information pollution right like you don't know what you're talking about or you're lying or both and you just you don't like shut up grownups or talking and the people who'd want to say that oh what do you hate jews we'll look around everything's falling apart and they're in charge you know Greg conti has a great little thing like like Jewish power means Jewish responsibility just quote in spite just quoting stanley but it's you know stanley with great power comes great responsibility right like you're
Starting point is 01:55:55 spider man not mean like if you're the ones in charge of everything The World War III, and no one can get married, and the economy sucks, and at any second, like, our senator, like, dude, the State Department in the last two years has reversed the Senate of the Soviet split, recreated this Cuban missile crisis, right? Like, you recreate a Cuban missile crisis. Literally, there are Russian weapons in Cuba right now. And I'm supposed to, like, you've restarted. at the Cold War. Not just one, two Cold Wars. Like, oh, yeah, double containment, man. Like, what? You're re-engineering the split of Germany,
Starting point is 01:56:42 right? Like, Germany will split on East-West lines, if this keeps up, because the East will just be like, this is ridiculous. We're going back to the Russian sphere of influence. They don't want us all to die. Right? This is this is what is, like, you're
Starting point is 01:56:57 everything that we gained in the 20th century through all those, you know, the second 30-year-s world war from 1914 to 1945 that was all about, you know, keeping the Germans down from becoming powerful on the continent, as Tim says, you know, right?
Starting point is 01:57:16 There was all about the Anglo-Zog power, you know, punishing the Germans for being good workers and industrious and capable of creating vast sums of wealth. We're supposed to just, We're just supposed to just pretend that this is, like, everything is fine. And, you know, they're losing the French Empire. They've created a refugee crisis in every single country.
Starting point is 01:57:44 They've ended the petro dollar. And we're supposed to pretend that everything is fine. Look around. Where was Sam wrong? like Saudi Arabia joining or getting rid of the petrol draw ought to be like 50 page front in front of New York Times like we're screwed you know all those people that Sam has talked about Sam just talked about that have entered California in the last 30 years that are welfare dependent what happens when there's no petro dollar to those people are they and there's no money to just pay them to to exist.
Starting point is 01:58:33 What happens to those people? What happens to those California public schools that are basically just daycare centers when there's no money? Or the Texas public schools? Or the Florida public schools? Or the roads? Or anything. And, right? Oh, and everyone deserves a gun.
Starting point is 01:58:56 so gangbangers with rap sheets right like their their sister can buy a gun because she's an American citizen and she's free and she can purchase a gun because she's not a gangbanger but she lives with her brother who's got a rap sheet a mile long and we can't be like no you can't purchase a gun you live in a house with a felon or you're related to a felon because you're a free American citizen and we shouldn't be able to restrict your rights. get out of here you know I mean am I wrong Jose like oh no no I really do think that one of the big issues I have with people across the right spectrum from like libertarians to conservatives is that um there's There's a point where, like, you have to get confrontational in politics, where you just cannot debate people that are just too stupid, too malicious, or that really just want to, like, clobber you over the head. You eventually have to expel them, and it's going to get physical, and it's going to get nasty, and the more you put this off, you're going to, this whole process is going to get more violent. The worst it's going to get, right? Like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Right, there's an irregular Venezuelan army in Florida right now. and it's only getting bigger as the white American population of Florida gets older. Also, I would suggest, too, whenever San Francis was talking about the so-called, like, Mexican
Starting point is 02:00:40 irredentist, I think, I've joked about this, but I'm also kind of serious too with, like, some people, that that whole, like, Asat-Lan movement is very likely going to be spearheaded by cartels. Like, once they start really setting up shop here and
Starting point is 02:00:57 police departments become like non-existent that's going to become a very harsh reality soon when they start just carving out statelets within like the US I've heard of the power vacuum
Starting point is 02:01:12 they're already de facto sovereign in northern Mexico anyway the only reason Fort Liberty which used to be Fort Hood right like woo liberty right is just outside of El Paso the only reason the cartels aren't de facto sovereign over trans Pecos, Texas right now as they don't want to be.
Starting point is 02:01:31 It's more work than it's worth to them at this particular moment. Yeah. Right? And it's not a paying proposition. If the U.S. government collapses and President Shinebomb doesn't, you know, why can't they just take? What's stopping them from taking it? Fort Hood?
Starting point is 02:01:52 What percentage of the basis on Fort Hood is Mexican? oh yeah it's also well documented that a good deal of of these like veterans of like Hispanic and Mary Indian extraction they become like hit men for cartels
Starting point is 02:02:08 afterwards there's like a growing sector of that in Mexico well you want to you want to hear what Mr. Build the Wall 50 feet high and don't let them in had to say about immigration this week?
Starting point is 02:02:28 Do a way. Let's say. But what I want to do and what I will do is you graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma, a green card, to be able to stay in this country. And that includes junior colleges too. Anybody graduates from a college. You go in there for two years or four years.
Starting point is 02:02:49 If you graduate or you get a doctorate degree from a college, you should be able to stay in this country. Folks, it makes absolutely no. sense by the way that we send home 40,000 engineers and scientists who are in a PhD in our university every year and we send them back home. We should be stapling a green card to each and every one of those degrees as they walk across the stage. That's what's destroyed Canada right now. Canada's Oh yeah. Yeah, Canada and Australia, man, those are like exhibit A's of so-called skilled migration. Yeah. And of course, the second you do that, right, these low trust, dishonest, third world people who don't come from frankly
Starting point is 02:03:26 Anglo-Saxon Liberty, right? It's like a CCP forward-based like waiting to be created. Yeah, or, or Indian forward base, right? Like, so a bunch of Indians create like a diploma mill where like, like, what they're taught is like how to look up stuff on Stack Overflow
Starting point is 02:03:44 and all of a sudden they're a computer engineer. It's like, no, they're like, please, sir, how to code here in Austin. Yeah, like, you know, allow me to complete, please, sir, you know, know, like, these are not people who are highly qualified. They just, they have a bullshit credential. And everyone who knows anything, right, like Donald Trump should know.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Like, Bessie DeVos was his secretary of education. He should know that education, like, it's nonsense. Like, we're graduating people who are semi-literate from college. This Christmas on Sky, you can turn a silent night into stoppage time to lights. And watch him out of the next to go! An old mince pie Into a stunning try And a winter chill
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Starting point is 02:05:17 We're, you know, look at the NFL. Tell me that, you know, all these people who are college graduates, and they're not literate. Yeah, the, what I was thinking about when I was listening to Sam, especially towards the end there, is the fact that, and then some of the comments that you were making, D.E. is people just, the people who, especially heritage Americans, who've bought into all this stuff, They just don't see the benefit anymore in preserving it.
Starting point is 02:06:02 They don't, I guess, it's been so long now, you know, Nuremberg regime long, that everything that was done in the past in this country was somehow evil, and that multiculturalism is evil, that the people would, fight to not keep this that they would they're very willing to just let it all erode well you've been told right like you know congratulations three survivors are the biggest sci-up in human history right like how many people took the jab because they were told billions of people billions of people of people took this jab because they they were told to.
Starting point is 02:06:59 At a bare minimum, hundreds of millions, I have no idea, but probably in the billions of people took this jab because they were told to take the jab. And nobody, right, you tell people for 50 years that white people are evil, that any sort of discrimination is basically Hitler, that, that, you know, the 109 times they just didn't do nothing that, you know, the 1964 Civil Rights Act is, you know, Martin Luther King is a latter-day founder, like Glenn Becker said. And you wonder why people don't care, right? Like, you can see it, go to the U.S. Army recruiting ads on YouTube. Like, oh, they got a bunch of white guys. Guess we're going to war for Israel, right? Well, of course, you wonder why, you know,
Starting point is 02:07:45 you tell people this isn't worth preserving, and then they believe you. And then you're mad that they believe you. Like, I'm sorry, Bill Crystal, you can't spend the last 30 years undermining America and then be mad when, you know, it worked and all of a sudden a bunch of people who, like, they don't want to go or die in Ukraine for your freaking ethnic, you know, your ethnic resentment from 350 years ago, right? Go fuck yourself, Bill. Go fuck yourself, Victoria Newland. I don't care anymore. I'm an American. My ancestors have been here a long time. um there's there's no reason for me to you know um whoa from uh stone choir it's like if they try to draft you you know you know you're going to war they just don't get to choose which side if if the u.s government tries to draft me or my sons or my daughters were at war the u.s government you know like they're trying to destroy my family so that Israel can go fight. Like, Israel started the fight with Hezbollah.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Israel started the fight with Hamas, with their All-Axamask stuff. They could have just stayed home. They didn't need to go just like trying to destroy the Al-Axamask. They didn't need to do that. They don't need to go try and steal the Latani River water from Lebanon. They don't need to assassinate the president and vice president of Iran. They don't need to, they don't need to like start screw off games in eastern Ukraine since 2014, 10 years of civilians getting killed and all of a sudden it's a problem.
Starting point is 02:09:28 All of a sudden, my kid's got to go get killed. Go fuck yourself. Like, why should, you know, like, oh, well, we got to worry about Taiwan. All the chips are made there. You know, Silicon Valley, California. Why do you think it got that name? Assholes. Sorry to, you know, but.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Oh, that was made here. Shockey was the guy who invented a transistor. He won the Nobel Prize. Guess what he had to say about racing IQ and all this other stuff? He was my guy. He was telling the truth. It wasn't me that moved all these, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:07 that took all these tech jobs and manufacturing jobs and other stuff and moved them to Taiwan to save $5. It was you. This Christmas on Sky You can turn a silent night Into stoppage time to lice An old mince pie Into a stunning try
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Starting point is 02:11:10 We're powering up Ireland. Learn more at airgrid.com. who destroyed this stuff. So why should I care? If you don't care enough to preserve this country, elites, Jews, and now you're mad at me that I don't want to preserve the country that's destroying my people? You know, if it weren't for the fact that Germany is occupied territory, AFD would be in government right now, and they'd be deporting all these people.
Starting point is 02:11:41 And they've done all the studies. These people cost taxpayers. The Danish government did a study, right? Like, these people have cost, you know, these migrants don't pay taxes. They cost tens of hundreds of billions of dollars. So why is this just naked parasitism that offers no benefit to me or to my ancestral homelands or to just anywhere in general? Why is it allowed to continue? Oh, because the people in charge, the Jews, their lives.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Blackies hate white people. They hate white Christian Europe. They hate white Americans. Well, sorry, I hate you back now. And it's not anything I did. It's everything that you did that San Francis talked about. It's you taking that libertarian tradition that's part of my heritage as an Anglo-Saxon, you know, British person, that English liberty. and turning it into dudes in their underwear
Starting point is 02:12:46 trying to demand a public debate as opposed to just being arrested and then have the crap beat out of him by the police as he ought to have been. Right? A man running around in a thong should be on a public street should be arrested
Starting point is 02:13:00 and then get whacked a couple times in the kidneys with a truncheon till you learn's better. Yeah. Flogged with bamboo sticks, man. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Singapore will still be free in 100 years because they've kept the culture that demands discipline. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the thing is people look at, I mean, a society that is monocultural, mono-ethnic needs some sort of discipline. The only way, when you look at societies that are multicultural, that are functioning around the world. And, I mean, really, which is just Singapore. I can't think if somebody wants to name another one, you know.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Probably like UAE. Yeah. It's like authoritarian as far, too. Yeah. That's the only way. Yeah, I've been, I've said this. Eric Prince can clean up Chicago, can clean up this outside of Chicago in a week. You don't even need Eric Prince.
Starting point is 02:14:06 You just need to unleash what you have at your disposal. All of this can be solved in a week. 80, 20. Charles and I talk about this all the time. I can turn 80% of her problems around inside a year. But the problem is, is the second you actually did what was necessary, you'd get, you know, a thousand.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Chinik was going, my baby didn't do nothing. Why you got to do? Okay, I'm sorry, 50% of your people, your men are criminal, violent criminals and just need to be executed. Not my problem. Like, like, face tattoo guy just needs to be, executed sorry yeah i could see like a situation like that like
Starting point is 02:14:46 in a really just like dystopian scenario like a nato gathering of how like we need to intervene in like this like jurisdiction for oh because like this guy is just trying to like impose order on these poor uh for non-whites yeah well there
Starting point is 02:15:07 i guarantee you there are people who NGOs in america who are putting it I would overthrow need Buckelly and letting all those Oh big time No 100% Yes
Starting point is 02:15:16 That is like I don't think that's even like You're crazy in the CIA Who are mad That their drug running revenue That was generated by Al Salvador Is no longer being generated And they are
Starting point is 02:15:27 Trying to overthrow Buceli through the NGO complex Right now 100% guaranteed Yeah and I saw like he He opened that public library That was like Oh fight ass by China
Starting point is 02:15:39 It's like damn Like he's like definitely getting like a, there's definitely a consortium of people that are going to go after him for sure. Like, well, right now and Joe Jordan's talked about this, like, if you're
Starting point is 02:15:53 El Salvador or you're Hungary or you're anywhere, right? And the United States of America and, well, Zog generally, right? Britain, France, all these, all these NATO countries. They have nukes. They have,
Starting point is 02:16:08 you know, billions of dollars, trillions of dollars, and military equipment. They have 11 or 12 aircraft carriers. They have tanks and bomber planes and all this other stuff. This Christmas on Sky, you can turn a silent night into stoppage time to lice.
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Starting point is 02:17:13 Learn more at airgrid.e. And you're a small country with 3, 4, 5, 10 million people, even 20 million people. How do you stand up against that? You know, they have trillions of dollars in GDP. They go at a war with you economically. What do you do? Well, you go to the other people on the face of the planet that aren't trying to do this to you, aren't trying to make your kids gay,
Starting point is 02:17:36 aren't trying to destroy your manufacturing sector, aren't trying to make all your food weird and fake and GMO and all this of the stuff. And you say to them, hey, like, let's make a deal. And you can say that the Chinese Communist Party is evil and they're bad and they do all these other things. Yeah, but are they trying to make all the kids gay? Nope. Right? And if I was naive and said, well, wait a second, the Chinese might be, you know, this might turn El Salvador or into a Chinese colony.
Starting point is 02:18:05 but is that better than like a CIA drug dump? Yeah, a global homo colony. And a sex tourism spot pedophiles, which is what they are, you know, like, like what Central and South America has been turned into by, you know, Americans. Like, what was it?
Starting point is 02:18:29 The Secret Service, three or four guys got busted for sex trafficking people in Venezuela. you know, 10 years ago or something, five years ago. I can't remember exactly when, but like you think that they're not trying to, you know, go after small kids in Central America perverts from the United States. Get out of here. Of course they are. Of course they are. Well, yeah. And really the only. As far as I can see, the only answer right now is to keep just building locally and keep doing things locally. Definitely look to build social capital with people, and that's something that the Old Glory Club is doing.
Starting point is 02:19:25 We had our conference, and just the amount of people who've contacted us to either try to join a chapter or start a chapter, is truly humbling. And, you know, the whole goal is to build social capital and then to cross, in real life, and then cross over and build civilizational capital. Because really, if we're going to have a civilization, we're going to have to build it ourselves. And if we want to have it now, we're going to have to build it ourselves. And that means that you're going to have to build it where you are.
Starting point is 02:20:02 and I just don't see any other way through this because we will get through this. You know, it's very easy to be black-pilled in the short term, but in the long-term, you shouldn't be black-pilled. You know, we know we win. We know we win in the end. But start building what comes next. You know, the whole thing, I know.
Starting point is 02:20:24 I know Orrin talks about it all the time. I don't know. I think it might be Nick Land that the only way out is through. Yep. That's Nick Lane. Yeah. is we're going to have to just punch through this and not pretend that it's not there
Starting point is 02:20:38 always have it in mind that it's there but building what comes next, what you want to see coming next because we talked about the Petro Dollar, we haven't talked about bricks, when you look at what Bricks is doing, when you look at just the fact that the people who are in charge in this country
Starting point is 02:20:57 are not only incompetent, But, I mean, they possess incompetence and hubris at the same time is, that's a remarkable, that's a remarkable combination. And how do you fuck up California? I don't know. It's like the greatest, it's like the great, literally the greatest, um, potentially economy with just all of its agriculture and everything there. I don't know how you do that. How do you like, yeah, these people have made, yeah, I mean, they've messed up Chicago,
Starting point is 02:21:40 New York, and California to the point that they're unlivable. Think about that. Think about that. Think of all the greatest deepwater harbor on the west coast of a continent. that's the natural point interpote for all trade with Europe trillions of dollars
Starting point is 02:22:03 the world's greatest stock exchange a short industry everything you know Chicago you're basically on the Mississippi Delta or Mississippi and the Great Lakes at the same time in Chicago
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Starting point is 02:23:46 that again they should never have any voice in public ever again or they're malicious and evil and destroying everything but in either case they're in charge and it's not working yeah I mean yeah this is where we're at and um I do I look at those as so far gone that if we were to take it all back that those would be the last ones we'd say take back.
Starting point is 02:24:18 Yeah, I mean, or it's just, it's going to be a slog. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it would be like a reconquista. Yeah, we're just going to, yeah, we're going to have to take back. And, well, that's it. Well, in a lot of cases, take back what you can or preserve what you have. You know, if you're in an area that this hasn't touched yet where, you know,
Starting point is 02:24:42 the idea that there would be drag queen story hour at the local library is an anathema, you just want to, you want to set up a shield. You know, you want to, you want to figure out a way that if this, even if you get to start sniffing that this is going to happen, that you have a way to, you have people to go to to say, it's not going to happen here. And just, you know, start building, you know, start building fortresses, be a bulwark against this. And, um, build culture, build capital.
Starting point is 02:25:16 And, yeah, that's about, that's about where we are. That's about where we are. Donald Trump is not coming to save us. Donald Trump is, Donald Trump's, if he gets reelected, he will be run by the same exact people he was run with. Jared Kushner may not be in the White House with him, but believe me, there's plenty of recent. 10 Jared Kushners will be there with him.
Starting point is 02:25:43 You know, Bill Ackman, the Aedleaders, Wilson, Widow, David Sacks, who he was on that. I mean, these are all billionaires, and they're all of a certain tribe. On the plus side, though, more and more people are waking up to the realities. And I think that they're, I wouldn't do this if I didn't think that there was some kind of hope. I mean, if there was no hope, I'd be gone. I disappear off the internet, the name Dark Enlightenment would just, like I'd scrub everything and go away. But like you've said, Pete, they're in charge and everything's falling apart.
Starting point is 02:26:27 This is great because you can't deny, after October 7th, you just can't deny now, right? Yeah, Benzbriot saying, it's hard to call a person, you know, that's just a constituent, it's not a handler, and then the comments underneath his, you know, YouTube video or just constant, you know. And I do think that shows like this one, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do it if I didn't think that this really makes a difference. And I applaud Pete for all of his hard work and, you know, foregoing massive opportunities elsewhere at Griff. and actually tell the truth and make a lot less money, right? Yeah. Well, I wanted to mention something. Institute for your historical review tweeted out an article by, of all people,
Starting point is 02:27:20 I was shocked Eric Margulies, who seems to be on the, to me, has always been on the left, definitely an anti-war voice. Yeah. It was an article typed, yeah, titled Europe Thunder on the right. And Thomas retweeted that. And I think Thomas 777 had this right. In policy terms, this is meaningless, unless until the Euro right begins speaking the language of European liberation from Zionist occupation and demanding an end to NATO aggression against the Russian Federation and the Bundes Republic. Nobody likes immigration.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Immigration is as popular as high taxes. Immigration restriction control is always a winner at the best. ballot box. European liberation is the only meaningful, rightest tendency on the continent post-1945. Anything less is begging the occupier to slow down the Morgenthau plan. And if we are not talking about ending this Zionist occupation here, if we don't have someone rise up, if the message isn't to end the Zionist. occupation here, even though we know what that's going to do to that person, then we have we can maybe assume that that that's their intention in the background, you know, that they're
Starting point is 02:28:49 not saying it, that they're not being forthcoming about it, but then you're, you're just hoping and you're wishing and you're waiting for a hero, you're waiting for a hero to come when you should just be working and you should be building on your own. And speaking of building on your own, you know, subscribe to Jose's substack. I was right before this, I was in the middle of Jose's podcast with Keith Preston and talking about the education system. Right. Like, give money to people who tell you the truth. Please.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Because if you want more of it, you got to pay the people who actually are willing to come out here and show their faces and tell the truth. and not apologize. So, you know, the Titanic hit the iceberg a long time ago. It's time to stop arguing about which way to change course and start building life votes. And, you know, do what you can to do that. And the first thing that you need to do,
Starting point is 02:29:55 aside from get yourself set, is give the people spreading the truth about the fact that we hit the iceberg, your time and attention, go for your funds so that you're not by yourself when you need to be. Because only the people who also know what you know are going to be able to help you when the time comes. Well, I appreciate that and I really want to say, thank you.
Starting point is 02:30:29 I really want to say that I really want to thank everyone who sends they're hard-earned money every month, I cannot put out the, on average, one episode, one recording a day that I'm doing right now with also doing recordings on my substack now, trying to do like shorter video essays for them without being able to have all the free time and being able to do this without having to worry about going to a job for eight, nine hours a day and, you know, hide the fact of who I am and things like that. So, yeah, I just want to thank everybody who does indeed donate their hard-earned money because there's no way I could do the amount of work that I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:31:18 And, you know, from the feedback, I think people think that the work I'm doing is actually making a difference, if not in the greater culture, in their lives. That's what I hear the most. And that's probably, that means more to me than anything else. when people say I can make some of the information I'm putting out there or even a little bit of advice is making a difference in their lives. I just want to say thank you to everyone. Jose, why don't you, yeah, I guess DE talked about the substack. What's the name of the substack? Where can they find it? Yeah, you can find my substack, Jose Niño, unfiltered at JOSBCF.substack.com.
Starting point is 02:31:58 That's also where you will find my podcast, El Nino speaks. And if you are so inclined, you can listen to that on Spotify or iTunes. And then, yeah, and I'm active on Twitter at Jose Al Nino as well. Well, D.E., I will link to your telegram chat, but something that people I get asked all the time is, where does DE show up, where does he have his own podcast? So can you point anybody to where you've shown up lately? I was on a recent third rail on the right stuff that is. I think two weeks ago or last week.
Starting point is 02:32:40 Yeah, it was good. I listened. That was good. Thank you. And I will be on an upcoming episode of at the end of the day with Jason at 2bit podcast. And I've been, my profile pick is like an automatic ban on Twitter. So I probably won't be headed back.
Starting point is 02:32:59 And unfortunately, I've just been censored because I hung out in too spicy circles for too long, I guess. And so it's not worth it to me in terms of risk management and other stuff to try and claw back to the mainstream. I'm sorry, folks. I've got a bunch of other projects, but a sub stack might be in the offing in the fall, but we'll see. well i appreciate that and yeah i um as long as we're um as long as we're patting each other on the back um any any place that you show up um i always get something out of uh out of what you say and probably even steal a bunch so um i appreciate that thank you all right let's end this thank you uh hopefully we get charles back here next time because i know charles has quickly become
Starting point is 02:33:52 favorite as well. People have asked me about him all the time. So both of you, I really appreciate it. And have a good weekend. Thanks, guys. Thank you. And there'll be And there's a Foyte If I'm And I'll I'll tell
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Starting point is 02:35:13 that for the earth mares above squadra's to So why'd you want to start with that, D.E.? Well, I guess you've been reading The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll, which I strongly encourage everyone to listen to. But Charles and I have been saying to get it privately to each other for years that we're in January, 1936 in Spain.
Starting point is 02:35:47 and you get two choices and I strongly believe that that that's where we're at. We've been saying that since prior to the written house incident. I know we've been saying that prior to that because I remember the written house incident was one of the things that crystallized it for us. We had made that statement in a conversation. I still remember it. I was standing in my kitchen and I'm not sure where you were, but I know we were on the phone together and I said we both said like this is it Spain 1936 you get the fascist you get the
Starting point is 02:36:21 communists anybody else just gets run over in the conflict between the two and then I want to say it was days it may be a week but I think it was honestly days before the written house shooting that and then when that happened it's like oh see this is exactly what it is that's exactly what it is and if you're not ready to load a rifle I'm not really ready to listen to you I remember that was something we both passed back and forth between one another. Yep, in 2020 we were both talking about that and this is just
Starting point is 02:36:50 what what systems go through, right? We had this period of stability imposed from the top down by American and Soviet hegemony and that's ending and things are unstable and things are unstable all over the place.
Starting point is 02:37:08 I guess Malaysia isn't some sort of conflict of Israeli just bombed Damascus. there's you know the president of moran just died and there's been a new re-election and and you know like there's there's stuff all over the place popping off because the people in charge of this country are the worst sort of people they are subservient and negligent subservient to certain powers abroad belligerent abroad and neglectful at home negligent at home it's literally the worst combination you could possibly have. Yeah, excellently stated.
Starting point is 02:37:43 And I would, this is not a pedanticism, but a yes. And I would say that it's not just this country is in the United States of America. I think we're seeing the cracks and the corruption show all over, all over Europe everywhere. We're seeing that people that know how to manipulate a bureaucratic system have placed themselves into power or have been placed there by others that know how to use a bureaucratic system. them. We have long since past the days of meritocracy. Now, I'm not some rosy-eyed youngster that thinks the past was perfect and that we've always had wonderful meritocracies. I mean, if we're crying out loud, every man in this room knows that we haven't. But we have
Starting point is 02:38:27 had closer to meritocracies than we have had, than we currently have. I mean, this is the furthest thing from a meritocracy I've ever seen in my 51 years. And I would recognize, anybody younger than me or even many older than me would agree that we are just so far beyond any sense of merit that it's just unfathomable to think it even existed. So that's a big yes end to what you were saying. Yes, I think we do have incompetent and corrupt and nepotistic individuals running things, but as you said, they're just, they're so far beyond the pale as to make the past unrecognito. Well, I think one of the things, I think we talked about it last night,
Starting point is 02:39:16 D when we were talking to Thomas is, or no, this is when I was talking to Carl Dahl when we were doing a reading, the seventh reading for Last Crusade. And he was talking about how, you know, the reconquista that took, you know, almost 800 years was, you know, one generation may only take back. three feet. The next generation may take back a mile. You know, maybe it might take a few generations to, you know, get a whole town back or even, you know, a county. But it has to start somewhere. And, you know, you were talking about, you know, loading a rifle. To me, I don't think that that's something that is, that's not something national. That is, if we are going to have a reconquista,
Starting point is 02:40:10 it starts where you are. It starts, you know, it is, we're, you know, we're going to say this is our town. This is what we believe. This is who we are. And, you know, if you don't like it, you can leave. And we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we do not need the federal government, maybe even your state government, depending on where you are. And we're going to take care of ourselves.
Starting point is 02:40:38 and, you know, it could start on a block and then it could go to your neighborhood and then it could be, you know, then it could be the city. But that is the kind of thing. If you're going to have a march through the, if it took 100 years for them to march through the institutions, well, the march starts now. Well, and this is, the post-war consensus I put it on my telegram, like whatever else you might want to say, right? the last month or show with the elections in France and Britain, this incident, others, the post-war consensus is over. And effectively, the whole point of the Nuremberg regime, and you know how Thomas have talked about it. I'm sorry for last night. It was a little bit disjointed, but events being what they were.
Starting point is 02:41:26 There was no way we were going to make something coherent out of that. But the whole point of the Nuremberg regime is that it is illegal. and immoral for white people to assert themselves politically, especially right-wing white people. White people can only assert themselves politically on behalf of something else, whether it's the environment
Starting point is 02:41:48 or non-whites or, you know, whatever, something else. They can never speak in their own interest. And especially right-wing white people cannot speak in their own interest. They can be a sidekick, but not the protagonist, is what basically... Yeah. They can be a sidekick, but not a protagonist. Yeah. They can pay the taxes.
Starting point is 02:42:06 They can be the ones who make everything run, but they can't assert that. And before we get too much further, I think we need to say something about the gentleman who died, who the second shots rang out through his wife and daughter down and jumped in front of a bullet for them. And that man was a hero. And his name was Corey Comparatore. something very salient yeah yeah and he was a retired 50 year old retired fire chief
Starting point is 02:42:40 there's been tributes from his daughter honestly I teared up you know he was a great dad apparently and I know that there are people who I respect you have real problems with Donald Trump and don't want to vote for him again and rightfully so there's lots of things wrong with him
Starting point is 02:42:58 but Cory Compton of Tore deserved people who care about him in Washington he deserved people who care about his family in Washington he deserved a government that doesn't put him in danger and put
Starting point is 02:43:16 his family in danger and cares about whether his kids or his grandkids have schools and running water and God damn you establishment for costing this good man his life so that some
Starting point is 02:43:33 genetic abomination communist piece of shit could get within 200 yards of a president and start killing people right you know Jose put it best on Twitter like these media communists who
Starting point is 02:43:50 they need to be crushed Oren's had some great stuff to say but these people they're scum of the earth you think you hate them enough but you don't they all need to be crushed yeah um so one
Starting point is 02:44:03 thing, one of my immediate takeaways from this incident, in addition to the death of comparatory was like that scene of people in the crowd
Starting point is 02:44:19 instinctively calling out the media for effectively inciting this whole incident. Because I've long said this and I agree with DE. I'm not the biggest Trump fan or whatever, but I do believe his supporter base has very strong biological and political instincts when it comes
Starting point is 02:44:42 to determining the friend- enemy distinction. I believe that the Trump movement is much more politically switched on than Trump and his inner cabal itself. And, but yes, as is to just add on is that they um they people like truly understand that um the system is collapsing um as we know it and i think any like i have said on twitter people have been put in a political trance uh by the liberal international order thinking that things are a okay but now that this um order has basically turned the U.S., the Judeo-American Empire into this Shadiqua state where it's become so incompetent across the board from the governing functions to the way, like, your water supply is being administered. People are going to take extra political measures to handle, to like carry out political disputes. because when D.C. is relying on, like, executive orders and regulatory edicts to carry out public policy, there's going to be a backlash, and people will take to the streets and use assassination attempts and all this other forms of violence to impose their will.
Starting point is 02:46:18 And I think people need to be ready for this, because, as I've said before, like, politics is just an expression of, like, violence. And it is ultimately going back to its primordial form as we were witnessing a systemic collapse on all levels of governance, whether it's the U.S. or on the international stage. Like history is continuing. It's not over. Right. History doesn't end. And I want to kind of jump on a few things you said, Jose, because I think we're very much simpatico today. I want to say it was back in 2013, 2014.
Starting point is 02:46:55 I have a post on one of my two blogs. One blog is just personal stuff that I've written since 2004. But the other one I've written as part of the Manosphere since 2012. We've talked about this previously. And that's called 80-proof ointamancy. And back in 2013, I wrote a post
Starting point is 02:47:13 that ended up somebody else did a breakdown of my post because I use a lot of negative space when I write. I let the reader draw a lot of their own conclusions. But what I talk about is you have to understand the United States is a nation that has already collapsed. And the best way to think of it is it's a series of dominoes that have all fallen. In health care, they call it a cascade effect.
Starting point is 02:47:36 And I wrote about this in my book called The Holistic Guide to Suicide. But the United States is a nation that has already collapsed. It's already done. You may not see it personally if you live in a nice area, if you live in a clean area, if you live in a clean area, if you live in a safe area. But it has already collapsed on the whole because the dominoes to the left of the one of your left and to the right of the one of your right have already fallen. You just can't see it because the domino on your left and right respectively have not yet fallen. But there is a long string of them that have already collapsed.
Starting point is 02:48:15 Church, county, state, federal, all of them have already collapsed. They're already done. you're only noticing it now because the effects of that collapse have knocked into dominoes closer to you and eventually the ones to your left and right will fall and crush you and that's what we're witnessing now and this is why I want to step back to a point that I said earlier if you're not willing to load a rifle I'm not interested in what you have to say
Starting point is 02:48:44 because I understand I write with negative space and I can understand a lot of people when they read me or when they listen to me speak, it may be hard for them to grasp, but I'm not saying that people aren't smart enough to grasp it. That's not at all what I'm saying. But what I am saying is I try and speak very clearly, but very briefly. Brevity is the soul of wit, and I try and let people draw their own conclusions. So when I say, I don't want to talk to you unless you're ready to load a rifle, I'm not saying
Starting point is 02:49:14 you best be ready to kill somebody, although frankly, I think you should be prepared to do that to defend yourself, your home, and your loved ones. But you have to be willing to fight, and you have to be willing to take a bullet. And this steps back, again, to the issue at hand regarding Trump. Understand, I don't think anybody in this room is actually a tremendous Trump fan. I think we could all sit here and break him down into little pieces. And I don't want to set our generous host off because he had already talked this afternoon about now is not the time to counter signal.
Starting point is 02:49:47 And I'm not countersignaling. I'm not. I support him, support Trump more than ever now. However, I would say that the reason they're going after him and the reason we should support him and the reason we should not counter signal is because like the beam says, they're not going after him. They're going after us. He's just in the way. He's just in the way. Really, they're going after him because for all his foibles for all his bloviating for all of his nonsense he is normal he has a wife he has kids he has a job he does things the normal people do that's why so many can gravitate around him being in northeastern or myself beat i believe you're a northeasterner as well like i get the bombastic
Starting point is 02:50:38 nature i get what he does and it kind of rolls off my back but it rubs people to roll away But regardless of his nature, at the end of the day, he is still something people have not seen in 50 to perhaps a hundred years. And that is a genuine politician. Like him or not, love him or not, hate him or not, he is a genuine politician. And I wrote something in a telegram chat, D is a part of. And I'm not sure if I repeated it on Twitter, I believe I did. But somebody had asked, how are Trump's optics so amazing? And I responded thusly, because he surrounds himself, he being Trump,
Starting point is 02:51:22 because he surrounds himself with patriotic imagery, Sands affectation. So what we end up seeing is life actually happening rather than curated, crowd-tested pablum crafted by midwits. Or in the event that it is crafted now and then, it is crafted by the closest thing we have to a meritocracy and campaigning. That, I think, is the key to Trump's success. I don't find him personally charismatic. I think he rambles. I don't think he gets to the point. But what I will respect him for is his genuineness. What you see is what you get. What is in the Trump tin is on the Trump tin. And I think there is a great.
Starting point is 02:52:12 great deal to be said for that because you can rally around the truth far more easily than you can rally around the falsehood the only reason the left has survived and prospered as well as it has is because it can collectivize not because it has the truth on its side they're used to doing that they they've been taught to do that and you know the it was something that I saw someone's, I forget who said this, but they collectivize in such a way that it allows them to put the most radical people in the most important positions. So like, you know, if Trump gets into office, he's not putting, he's not going to put one of us in like, say, you know, the Department of Education. But the left or, you know, the regime, they'll be.
Starting point is 02:53:11 put someone who's an open who's been an open communist in and they don't care and you pointed out to them and they don't care. I'm sorry Pete I don't mean cut you off but I want to jump on something because I think you've really touched on something very important and that is
Starting point is 02:53:26 there is a brilliance to putting your most radical people in and getting them there successfully and the brilliance is if you can get your most radical most vociferous craziest allies into the positions of power, it's going to be 10 times easier to get the people on your side that are closer to center. Whereas the right does it the backwards way. They try and get
Starting point is 02:53:54 their centrists in and slowly boil the frog. And that doesn't work. That doesn't work. You get the radicals in and then your radicals will clean house for you, opening the door for anybody else. I think that is the key to the leftist collective success. I'm agreeing with you that that's absolutely what they do, but I think that is the brilliance behind that tactic. Because it's kind of like when you're working around the house, you always tackle the hardest job. That way everything else is easy from then on.
Starting point is 02:54:30 Yeah. And I don't know. It's just so, it's so frustrating. It's so frustrating to know that we have these people, you know, someone like, someone like DE who is, when it comes to infrastructure, probably knows 10 times more than anyone in the regime right now. And, you know, he's stuck out here because, you know, he's a radical. And but if the, but the regime will put in somebody who, you know, read one book on infrastructure. and yet they're a raving Marxist.
Starting point is 02:55:11 And yeah, but we try to, we try to do it. We try to put one of our people in there and immediately, you know, you know what happens. Yeah, the difference between us and them is that, you know, Sam Brinton, the insane dude who like to steal women's luggage and, you know. I was going to bring that up. Good. Yeah, like he might have been a genuine expert, but he's insane. It took him committing like multiple felonies for him to get, like, fired. right um and no leftist was like well i mean he's crazy but no they're like oh he's an embarrassing
Starting point is 02:55:43 criminal prison so we're going to have to just quietly let him you know go away whereas if like i applied for a job with the trump administration right like i'd be doxed and then they scream around like and here's the worst part of it like i'm going to soft disagree with you pete but it's going to be a very soft disagreement in the sense of i agree with you that they would never let a guy like D into the system. I agree with that. But I think it's, again, this is not a pedanticism. It's a yes.
Starting point is 02:56:16 And I think the right wouldn't let D in because he's a radical. The left wouldn't let D in because he's normal. He's a normal guy. He's got a wife. He's got kids. He has a job. He has friends. He has hobbies.
Starting point is 02:56:36 And I think that. That's why the left wouldn't let him in. I agree that the right wouldn't let him in for political reasons. But I think the left just because he's normal. What do you think about that, Dee? I think you're both correct to a certain extent because look at the guy who shot Trump. I mean, just a just a dysgenic free show. And, you know, I've had friends harassed.
Starting point is 02:57:00 I've had friends thrown in jail. I've had people have corresponded with, you know, like thrown in prison for private speech in the UK. or other places. And I got to worry constantly about, you know, private intelligence agencies, like, trying to find out where I live and kill me. And that's not, that's not to, like, brag or be hyperbolic or anything. Like, look at what they're doing to people, you know. And because I've always known what time it is, you know,
Starting point is 02:57:25 that I've been saying for years that it's 1936 in Spain, um, the Nuremberg regime saw what happened in Spain. And forgive me, Pete, I can't remember. Was it the Raquette? So it were the carlest, you know, men's clubs that basically formed the new, okay, so the Ricketts is, right? If you're old enough remember the 90s, you know, the American militia movement was a bunch of constitutional patients who like the Cold War is over, why don't we go back to a being a republic down at empire again like Patrick Cannon said. And the empire said, no, we like being an empire. And they said, okay, well, then we're going to train to defend ourselves because we don't trust you.
Starting point is 02:58:05 And what did they do? They destroyed it. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. We don't even have the Rickettis like they did in 1936. Now, maybe we have chat groups and there's other things going on. But the Nuremberg regime, whether it's just because I'm normal or because I'm a well-known, you know, open, white nationalist, open, you know, openly don't, you know, call me a fascist, I don't care.
Starting point is 02:58:28 And, you know, like, or just because I'm a normal dude who knows what I'm talking about, it doesn't really matter what they're upset about. is that I would, or any of us, would be in a position to advocate for normal people and tell the truth. And that's what's not acceptable. Right. Because the Nuremberg regime exists to prevent our listeners, our fans, our readers, normal people from advocating for their own interests in the political sphere. I'll back up your point about the militias because I personally know about that in the sense of I was in federal law enforcement. in 1998. So I remember getting the memos and the alerts and stuff. And by and large, they were all about the, as you say, the militias. And I'm just thinking to myself, really?
Starting point is 02:59:19 A bunch of guy, white dudes in Montana. And I wasn't even anywhere near as right wing as I am now. But even then, I thought it was kind of silly. Like you're worried about 12 guys in Montana. You're worried about 30 guys in the middle of, you know, Arkansas or whatever. Really? these guys aren't even leaving their compound they're not even training with any kind of explosives they're just marching up and down 12 acres or whatever really this is our
Starting point is 02:59:44 this is what we're worried about and then you know a few years later the planes hit the towers and I'm just thinking yeah boy good thing we were watching all those white guys in the middle of Mississippi boy that sure stopped something didn't it you got anything Jose I think
Starting point is 03:00:00 one thing to note is that this obviously goes beyond Trump because the most, like, venomous rhetoric and, like, incitements to violence by the corporate media is actually going towards his supporters. I've noticed this especially among these Jewish pundits. They're much more scared of Trump. Trump supporters more so than Trump itself because just looking at his first administration, he proved to be somewhat controllable. But if you look at some of these incidents in the last year or so of like that FBI just like gunning down Trump supporters, like that one guy like in Utah, and then the culmination
Starting point is 03:00:57 of this, and actually you can even go back to 2020 in that. Trump's war getting gunned down in Oregon. It's not an exaggeration to say that any type of individual that's like a Trump supporter or like rightly coded individual that is like on a public platform, a public square or whatever, they're very much fair game and especially it's like a gang type of thing. Like you have like a gang sign that you're you're very much liable to being targeted. This is just like politics reverting to its natural state. There's no time for debate any longer.
Starting point is 03:01:44 It's going to get even like nastier. Debates are for people who share base premises. Yeah, exactly. Very well put. Very well put. Like there's the type one disagreements and type two disagreements. And I can't remember which one's which. But we're dealing with people who literally think that a dude in a dress should be able to
Starting point is 03:02:04 grow on a like a forgive me Charles I'm going to docks you just a little bit like you're a big hairy dude like you know and if you want to call yourself Charlene you get a thrown a sundress and then and then go change in the same blocker room as my kid
Starting point is 03:02:23 is my daughter no that's not happen yeah right nope fair point you're not wrong you're not and and the people who right you know oh like you know why did you miss and it's like no we're not we're not living with people
Starting point is 03:02:38 who um can be reasoned with like you can't reason these these people weren't reasoned into this you know thomas last night thomas and pete and i were supposed to talk about the audubon and then this happened so we didn't but one of the things that thomas talked about that i think is really important is the infotainment complex right right i thought about this quite a bit yesterday, how much trouble could be avoided if just one true thing, one hate fact, not all of the hate facts, not the truth about Jews, not the truth about blacks, just, just, just pick any one major hate fact out there in the world, like the truth about IQ, for instance. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:19 How much trouble in our society would instantly evaporate? Right. Well, right. Exactly. What did I say in our, in our, in our little group chat that sets these meetings up? What did I say? What was the, I was a little proud of my little pithy phrase.
Starting point is 03:03:34 Racism is its own reward. You know, I haven't, you know, I don't get mugged. I don't get cheated, you know, because I stay out of the wrong neighborhoods.
Starting point is 03:03:43 I don't do business with certain people, you know. Now, has that made my life perfect? No. But I, growing up in bad neighborhoods and around certain people and stuff like that, I can tell you it would save me more heartache
Starting point is 03:03:57 than I could ever possibly quantify, ever possibly quantify so that this is me saying yes and you're absolutely correct you know just just one true fact pick anyone you want IQ a pension for violence low time preference high time preference whatever you want you pick anything you want and and we can we can start turning problems away overnight but this goes back to the thing we were discussing a while back which is the whole we could turn this whole country around or at least 80% of it. What did we say in two years?
Starting point is 03:04:32 I think we said two to five years, something like that. Oh, yeah, one presidential term. Yeah, right. We could turn 80% of it around. All we have to do is start taking the truth. You've said this before, and I've held on to it, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. You said the three greatest things that America contributed to the world,
Starting point is 03:04:48 to world history and world culture, where Westerns, cable top role playing games, and Alcoholics Anonymous. And I think that is absolutely 100% correct because Alcoholics Anonymous gives one of the greatest things ever. First, you have to admit there's a problem. Yep. And it seems so simple.
Starting point is 03:05:07 It seems so childlike that it's like, oh, that's ridiculous. So that's ludicrous. Everybody knows that. It's like, do you though? Do you? Because how much of life really is just. Right. How much of, you know, like the FBI is listening to this show.
Starting point is 03:05:26 Right. guaranteed right the the FBI has been listening to everything I've ever done for five years longer than that like I've been doing this for since 2014 or so somewhere in the battle of the NSA is like a file with every word I've ever said or no microphone on it yep and a server in Utah with every word of it recorded too yeah and instead of being like wow you know this guy that just wants like things to function again we're going to pay real close attention to him, but these violent communists that look like extras from a carney
Starting point is 03:05:59 you know. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, rejected from like the ugliest man in the world tent. This, this, we're not going to pay attention to those people. Like, who, who does the violence, right?
Starting point is 03:06:15 The Rickettists didn't do anything until they were like, oh, hey, they burned down a bunch of churches and killed a nun. I guess it's time to saddle up. Yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, listen, listen. again to I think it's episode two or three where Pete goes into July of 1936 where everything hop kicks off
Starting point is 03:06:35 correct me if I'm wrong Pete please but like listen to that not once not twice listen to that two and three times my cop my personal copy of Last Crusades dog-eared is shit from this particular like I've read it over and over and over again um July is July is about 55 page
Starting point is 03:06:55 ages long. Yeah. And it's, uh, it's episode, I think it's episode three and four of my reading. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 03:07:03 Read that more than once because this, like, the right wing did not swing into action until it was a hundred percent clear that there was no getting along with these people. There was no reason to do with them. There was no modus vivendi you could come to. Well, right. This is why I, Right. And this is why I hope that this bullet is a big lesson for Trump and not just another reason for him to self aggrandize and be like, see, I'm bulletproof. It went right by me. You can't take out the king. It's like, no, no, no, don't use this as an opportunity for hubris. Use this as a, these people are fucking serious. Like, this is not just civil, this is not just a civil disagreement anymore. This is not just me.
Starting point is 03:07:55 mean tweets. They are going to kill you. Now, maybe you're a 78-19-old. Maybe you're, now, maybe you're a 78-79-year-old billionaire with an absolutely gorgeous wife, beautiful children, a yacht, and all that. Maybe you're ready to die. Maybe you're like, I've done plenty with my life. I've done everything I've ever set out to do. I'm a-okay with dying. And you know what? that's fine but it's not about you anymore you are the you are the head of a movement you are the head you are the figure piece of an entire zeitgeist if you will right yet it's like it's not about you bro you cannot get killed you cannot and i don't mean cannot as in it's impossible let me be very very clear. I'm trying to say, take this gift from God, because anybody with any sense in their head
Starting point is 03:08:51 knows, it was sheer will of God that he survived. And I'm not going to presume to know why God saved him, whether he's, whether for good or for ill, that's, I am not God, I can't answer for him, but he was saved by God, just like Rittenhouse was. And I will die on this fucking hill. I will die on this fucking hill. But I hope he takes it seriously because I'm going to tell you, gentlemen, and if we get into it a little later, I will go into more detail. But every man listening to the sound of my voice best have his garden of gestemite moment. Now, tonight, tomorrow night, this week, but you best have your garden of guestemany moment. You have to know fate is coming for you. and you have to get ready that it may be extremely, extremely unpleasant.
Starting point is 03:09:42 But you also have to know, deus vault. This is not about you, bro. It's about you. It's not about Trump. Right. Right. And if our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ had to go to the cross, then you do too. Then you do too.
Starting point is 03:10:00 I'm not saying sacrifice yourself needlessly. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, have your Garden of Gestemite moment, know that this may be coming for you, be spiritually ready for it. The one good part, the one good scene in Indiana Jones in the last crusade is when Indy is beating the crap out of these guys that were chasing him on boats. And he's got him. And I still remember the scene sends chills down my spine. And he's punching this dude in the face. and this giant propeller is just turning and turning and chopping up the boat that they're in and it's this big like tanker or something and his little small wooden boats getting chopped up
Starting point is 03:10:42 and they're getting closer and closer to the blade and Andy just pulls his hand back to punch this guy in the face one more time and the guy just looks up at him bleeding and he says my soul is prepared Dr. Jones how is yours and then Jones jumps off the boat with him and that's that's what you have to understand be ready because I promise you I promise you it is coming and and these people don't even I put it on telegram these people hate you if you're listening to this they really hate you they really really I guarantee you they have files on all four of us and any like anybody that's appeared on Pete's show in the last two years there's somebody with a file on guarantee yep and much much to my regret i do not have children but i i would be willing to
Starting point is 03:11:39 hazard a guess and that is if if you turn your head right now if you are a parent and you look at your child and you think about how much they mean to you and how much you love them invert that that's how much these people hate you yes and and they hate you They hate Trump, not because he's secretly reading Mindomph and has read the entirety of the doctrine of fascism and has pictures of Jose Antonio and, you know, Otto Scorsani and stuff in his bedroom or something. No. They hate Trump because they think he's that. They, they, there are people who are cheering the death of that man right now because he was a Trump supporter. a Nazi. Like, no, they said the same thing about Rush Limbaugh. Yeah. I'll say the same, they'll say the same thing. Um, you know, there are people who celebrated the death of John McCain because I thought he was a Nazi. You know, like, I'm just going to say with mystery groves attitude. I'm just going to go with, I'm going to keep riding mystery groves attitude. All the ideology is just window dressing. They hate Trump because he sleeps next to a beautiful woman and wakes up and has breakfast with kids that love him.
Starting point is 03:12:58 that's why they hate him and they hate him because people like him they hate him because he has friends now there's plenty of guys in this room that don't like him for other reasons that he's a blowviator that he doesn't keep his word he doesn't do this he's not he's not faithful to his wife you know whatever okay and those are all valid but the reason these people hate him is because he's successful and he wants all boats to rise with the tide there are many things i can say bad about him, but everyone who knows him to a man will say he is one of those guys that wants to raise all boats with the tie. And I think that's obvious. I don't think it's a, I don't think it's an act. I think it's genuine. I think he does. And I, that's why they hate him. And that's
Starting point is 03:13:46 why they hate everybody else. Because they're just, there's just something wrong and deeply broken in these people inside them, that they can't get over whatever trauma they suffered, whatever, whatever pettiness or vileness they have and it's just like they just have to destroy something beautiful and that's why you can't tolerate it that's why you can't tolerate it that's why tolerance is not a christian virtue charity mercy all those yeah they're christian virtues tolerance is not tolerance is absolutely yeah right it can't be can't be because that's why because once you let it get a foothold it doesn't stop guide I'd finish up D, because I'm going to move the subject along.
Starting point is 03:14:30 I'm going to change the subject. Okay, well, I was just going to say that tolerance is what led to, you know, the totally incompetent secret service that made is possible in the first place. Regardless of where you think the incompetence lies, it was tolerance that led to the institution getting captured by leftists or tolerance that led, you know, fat women be on the presidential detail or whatever. I have a lot to say about that, actually, but we'll, you know, move on yeah well yeah let's um well let me let me give jose do you have anything to finish on that
Starting point is 03:15:04 subject anything to close with on that subject yeah i i would just add on that like trump um whatever his political failings which are many um he is like an avatar of a normal european white European America that is increasingly becoming an afterthought and the very fact that somebody like him could actually get elected freaks people out and especially if these people get really get really freaked out when there are other people that kind of look like him and hold the same values start mobilizing collectively and try to express some form of political will and that's what really gets these people going and to the point where these freaks will use
Starting point is 03:15:55 straight up political violence to impose their will on us and best believe there's going to be plenty of copycats like now after this incident because they're going to think oh I like if this person got so close I could do it there's going to be a lot of one-uping
Starting point is 03:16:12 or they'll settle for the consolation prices of killing Trump supporters too because there's plenty of jurisdictions in the US where they can actually get away with it to literally get away with murder or so Yep. Cosign 100%. One of the reasons
Starting point is 03:16:28 one of the reason my throat is so sore right now is I was doing a live stream for about an hour and a half before this. I called it. I was sort of yelling at the top of my lungs. Sort of? Yeah, I was kind of angry. No, no. I'm not saying you'd never write.
Starting point is 03:16:46 I'm just trying to be little levity. That's all. Yeah. But, you know, one thing that I noticed, as soon as this happened, I noticed that this was, like, a once-in-a-generation opportunity. Like, this is something that changes the narrative. It's something that you can take and you can start pushing your own narrative. And something I immediately saw was that people started jumping into people on our side. and I will say you're going to see it from quote unquote content creators on our side,
Starting point is 03:17:24 quote unquote, who wanted to, this is, dude, how do you get up there? Did someone put a ladder for him there? Did you see the one guy who like stood down and like he didn't shoot until he took the first shot? Is that guy a Jew? Did you see his bracelet? I think he was a Jew. And I think that's why he didn't do it.
Starting point is 03:17:49 And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? I have a perfect analogy, Pete. Go ahead. So the establishment conservatives are retarded and they'll talk about the Reichshank fire as if like Hitler said it. And of course, actually the communists did it, right? And they were right to, oh, he's going to use this as his right shake fire.
Starting point is 03:18:13 This is exactly analogous. you know the people who are too dumb to know what the hell is going on like no communists must be crushed the entire anti-fund network needs to be recode yep absolutely they need to they need to have all their associations planned out they need to be charged under the various felonies they commit every day including drug use and massive numbers drug trafficking human trafficking you know violence terrorism like you name it they need to be charged with it and thrown in prison any of their attorneys that are probably also committing felonies, a lot of them, they need to be disbarred, bankrupted, and then thrown in prison. And any of their media people, any of their collaborators in media or academia, they need to lose their jobs and be bankrupted and thrown in prison because they're committing crimes and trying to destroy society.
Starting point is 03:19:09 Right. Yeah. Right. Agreed. So, you know, so my whole point was, is I put it in one of my private chats, I said, you know, understand that the people who want to expose to this is a conspiracy or woefully ignorant of how to use this strategically. This is a game changer that they wish to, that all, all they're doing is diffusing it by, by trying to, oh, well, where did the bullet come from? You know, and, you know, one of my friends said, he said, the narrative, the only narrative is,
Starting point is 03:19:42 the left and the media have blood on their hands after years of advocating for political violence. They were inches away from, they were inches away from blowing Trump's head off on live TV and would have celebrated in the streets if they did. They want you dead. Right. And that's, that's it. You know, they tried to kill Trump. They took out a chud, and they're celebrating that now.
Starting point is 03:20:05 They may not be celebrating it publicly, but they're celebrating it privately. I don't care. I don't care where the You know where the bullet came from I don't care you know As far as I'm concerned The Secret Service A good man and a good American
Starting point is 03:20:21 Who threw his self Between his wife and his daughter In front of bullets got killed Literally Yeah like like literally This is a communist piece of garbage Literally threw himself in front of bullets If you think that it's funny or whatever
Starting point is 03:20:35 Or you are ironic distance or Trump supporters are cringe Fuck you that man you deserve you deserve you deserve you deserve that guy you need to
Starting point is 03:20:51 radically if you're on supposedly on my side of the fence and you're not pissed as hell that this good man was killed by a communist piece of shit you're completely wrong yeah and something Pete said in the in the broadcast this afternoon
Starting point is 03:21:08 that the solo broadcast that you this afternoon, Pete, you're 100% right. When somebody brought up a statue to this fellow, compituary, who said, oh, well, that might be seen as, as taking advantage of the moment and making use of a tragedy. It's like,
Starting point is 03:21:24 well, and so? Who gives a shit? We put ridiculous, we put ridiculous art and Floyd. Right, there's, right, like, who the fuck are you to tell me this is ridiculous? Simpleism, not distractions now. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 03:21:39 What you interpret. my political motivations to be. This guy literally threw himself. This isn't a metaphor. He literally threw himself in front of bullets to shield his wife and child. Give the guy a fucking statue. I don't, like, I mean, how are you going to look me in the face and look at like half of the statues that we get?
Starting point is 03:21:59 Half of the public, public air quotes, art we get. You're going to look me in the face and say now all of a sudden I need to worry about what we're putting up? Like, that's just ludicrous. get the fuck out of here don't piss on my shoe and tell me that's like a con his classic con
Starting point is 03:22:15 take yeah don't politicize the situation of all like who says I'm politicizing I literally shielded his wife and daughter who said I'm politicizing it was terrorism that killed him
Starting point is 03:22:28 terrorism was politically murdered yes I agree but what I'm saying is why do I why does that why do I need to even mention that like to me it's like if I want to put a statue for the guy. Great. I'm going to fucking do it. I don't care what your opinion is. Yeah, we need symbolism. We need heroes. Yeah. Like what like if like I'm going to step back to what you
Starting point is 03:22:50 said, Pete, we have to take things two feet at a time, three feet at a time. Well, I want the eight feet that that guy's statue's going to stand on. That's the eight feet I'm going to choose because he's normal and he's and he's here. And not only is he normal, he's super normal. He's heroic. So I, I would Lord that. I want to lord that. I'm not worried about the ideology. I'm worried about the culture. I want to celebrate a culture that rewards men for protecting their children, for protecting their wife. Like, that's what I want to do. Yes, you're absolutely right. He was killed by a communist freak. Yes, it was awful. Like, this is not a disagreement. But what I'm saying is I'm going back to Pete's point with, I'm just going to take my three feet, my five feet, my eight feet of the time. This is a what I want to celebrate. This is what I want to build. I want people walking through my fucking park pointing at that statue and I want mom to look at the dad or dad to look at the kid or mom to look at the kid and go, do you know who that is? Do you know why that's there? You know, I want and I want that kid to think, hey, this is the goal that I should live up to,
Starting point is 03:24:00 to care that much, to sacrifice that much. That's where you get this stuff. You laud your heroes because of that you don't have those 12 layers of irony like oh bro this and that no that's cringe fuck off with that that's not a culture that's just nihilism and nonsense so that's what that's my first three feet that's my first five feet my first eight feet the pedestal that his statue stands on you know the fact that people are more interested in showing how clever they are. Right. Or, you know, I look at it this way.
Starting point is 03:24:41 You know, I engage in conspiracy theories all the time, but I mean, I rarely ever talk about them on the show. Right. And, you know, in personal life, sure, you know, we can talk and have fun. But most of the people who I see engaging in conspiracy theories do so because they want to appear clever or like they have some kind of esoteric knowledge. You know, it's like, oh, I know something that you don't know. And it's just this smug, you know, it's smug. That's all it is. Do you mind if I take the floor for a little bit on this?
Starting point is 03:25:13 And I'm going to try and stay coherent. But as I suspect, and if I'm incorrect, please correct me, I suspect I'm the only guy that carries a gun for a living here. Is that correct? And does anybody do sidework in security or law enforcement? No. Okay. I know.
Starting point is 03:25:30 I suspect I'm the only one that's trained in. executive protection. Is that correct or incorrect? Okay. That would be correct. Okay. All right. Again, none of this has talked myself up. I'm just trying to, I want to make sure that I don't try and overstep my bounds. Okay, so I want to address a few of these, you know, points about your saying about conspiracy. It's like, all right, first off, I was in law enforcement. I was in federal law enforcement. If you want to say, well, this guy hesitated because, you know, he was a Jew or a Mason, or he got a special wink or a special handshake. Okay, maybe that's possible, but I shave with Occam's razor twice a day.
Starting point is 03:26:08 I shave with Occam's Razor twice a day. And what Occam's Razor tells me, as a guy that carries a gun for a living, as a guy that's been in law enforcement, as a guy that does executive protection, what that tells me is that really this guy hesitated because we live in such an over-feminized world, he is terrified of his world collapsing because he shoots some kid that just wants to get a really good picture of President Trump. Oh, well, he saw the rifle. Did he? I don't know. I wasn't there. But I can tell you, I know you can lose your job for doing your job. You can't lose your job for not doing your job in law enforcement. Pete, do you recall when we talked on the
Starting point is 03:26:58 episode bordering on insanity. Do you recall that, you and me speaking back and forth about that? Yeah, of course. Right. Well, I was, this is the same thing I mentioned there. I didn't get fired for not doing my job. I got fired for doing my job. Now, does that excuse this guy? No, that's not necessarily what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback when you're, you don't have any skin in the game, when you weren't there, it's not your career on the line. It's not your kids that are going to go without food. It's not you going to lose your house. Okay. I was willing to push back, but you know what? I've been broke ever since. You know what?
Starting point is 03:27:41 I've been drifting from job to job ever since. It has, it cost me my potential marriage. It cost me kids. Dean knows this story about me quite well. And not a lot of guys are, willing to do that. Am I saying I'm a hero for that? No. What I'm saying, though, is it is, again, a garden of gesteminy moment. You either understand that you are willing to take death upon you, whether it be physical, financial, professional, social, whatever. You are willing to take death. And a lot of people aren't. They just aren't. And you only find out in those clutch moments when it really happens. And then somebody said that a cop was climbing up the ladder
Starting point is 03:28:23 to go to the roof and he spotted them. Okay, they're like, oh, I didn't the cop do something? Do you know how to climb up a ladder? You ever done any actual work? Well, climbing up a ladder takes both hands. What are you going to draw your gun with? Your teeth? Okay, so you're standing at the top of a ladder
Starting point is 03:28:39 with both your hands on a ladder and this guy spins around and puts a rifle in your face. What are you going to do? Use harsh language, tell them to put it down. you're just going to get shot in the fucking face dude no what you should do is get down a little bit and immediately call for call for everybody hey there's a guy on the roof shoot him shoot him and then draw your weapon if you can with your hand try and get up with one hand but again like everybody wants to be monday morning quarterback and was there a lot of incompetence there absolutely
Starting point is 03:29:10 no doubt and keep in mind like if you want to talk about a conspiracy i don't need to organize anything. All I got to do is put a bunch of dim wits and DEIs on your detail and let the public do the rest. Because if you want to know my attitude on this conspiracy, here's what it is, plain and simple. All it was was they spent years, literally years, making this guy to be the worst thing since Adolf Hitler, you know, trademark. The worst thing since Adolf Hitler. and then they just give him the worst of the worst of the secret service all the people that probably would get fired in any other industry and they just go yeah you work on his detail now
Starting point is 03:29:53 and then you let nature take its course why because you didn't do anything wrong I didn't do anything wrong oh I was just reporting the news you called him literally Hitler hey we're allowed to make a comparison oh you set him up you plan this no I didn't we gave him secret security detail secret service detail. Yeah, let's see their personal records. I wouldn't be, I would not be at all surprised to see a lot of them have been disciplined or a lot of them, this is their punishment detail. And then you just let fate take its course. I didn't know. I have no blood on my hands. I didn't do anything. Now, of course, every man in this room knows they do, but I'm telling you, if you want,
Starting point is 03:30:32 if you want anything, I would say it's let it happen syndrome. They don't actually have to plan anything. They can just drum up violent rhetoric. until some tranny or lunatic grabs a rifle and goes after him. And then they just put the worst of the worst on his detail and let nature take its course. Tireate over. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:54 I mean, that is as plausible as everything else. I mean, it's amazing to me that you have people who will talk about the, how bad the, like, competency crisis is. but no obviously it wouldn't wouldn't affect secret service or government or anything like that yeah yeah agreed that just makes them look like
Starting point is 03:31:20 makes their theories look stupid like incoherence there oh yeah um like I got told like I don't tweeted on your thread Pete like this conspiracy stuff like it was largely
Starting point is 03:31:37 relevant in the 20th century, like pulling off these complicated false flags was relevant in the 20th century when you actually had like skilled people in government. But dude, like these days, if there's a conspiracy that's being kicked off, it's largely being outsourced like the NGO space or like some like private like sector actor because like we're in a DEI Shenequa state, man. Like nobody there can carry out the most like DEC function. yeah yeah exactly the i is the dmv the head of the secret service is a fat woman yep i mean right
Starting point is 03:32:16 this is what i'm saying like this that you're yeah that's exactly what i'm saying like like at or everywhere's yeah right right yeah like all they did was taken already crumbling corrupt useless organization and put the least useful members of it on his detail like that's all they have to do yeah and if i was Donald trump i would be Eric Prince right I would have called him already and said look what's it going to take you guys are now in charge of executive protection you know because because I guarantee Eric Prince knows people who could actually do the job well here's I think Thomas 77 said this a while back and I believe he said this and he said you know if this was a sane country we would be doing back what we did in the
Starting point is 03:33:03 40s in the 50s we would be trying to get all the smart small town white guys to get back in government service. Like, like, and again, I don't say this to pat myself on the back, but this happened because I'm not there. They got, and I don't mean me necessarily personally. I'm an old guy now. So, you know, maybe I wouldn't have been able to do jack shit. But the point I'm making is, you don't think they got rid of everybody like me or 90%
Starting point is 03:33:32 of guys like me. Why do you think the SAT was invented? The SAT was literally invented to find those guys. right exactly yeah like there was a thing was invented to find guys from small towns in Iowa right that had 130 140 150 IQs and get them to places where they could go to and start Caltech or Harvard and put men on the moon or
Starting point is 03:33:55 right right and that's what Thomas 77 was saying this was the same country they would be they would be using their resources to pull every smart white guy from around the country and they wouldn't be working for Elon Musk. They wouldn't be working for Boeing. They wouldn't be working for McDonald-Douglas. They'd be working for the government.
Starting point is 03:34:19 Why? Because you want the best and brightest to go. Not only would they be working for the government. They'd make, there'd be policies in place to make sure that they all had five kids or six kids, seven kids. Right. But I'm just saying I want to address with something Thomas 777 had said.
Starting point is 03:34:37 It was, I just thought that was when he said that it really hit me like a bolt out of the blue I was like this man is exactly right he's exactly brilliant and people need to listen to him more but like this is I was sorry I've been distracted
Starting point is 03:34:52 I was just literally arguing with someone who you know this Corey fellow was apparently active on Twitter and he he was right about Ukraine he was telling people to stop funding in crane and he was wrong about Palestine because you know he's a conservative white guy right the problem isn't this guy has the wrong opinions the problem is that he's been lied to
Starting point is 03:35:07 for his entire life. He's 50 years old. He's 50 years old. So he was born in like 1975. Yep. 1974. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 03:35:16 Okay. He was lied to his entire life. And he was never given a chance to listen to this show and learn the truth about. Yeah. He's political views. This is out of pocket. I just, like, I, um, yeah, I just find, like, this whole, like, internet smooth culture.
Starting point is 03:35:37 of this like delving into like the minute details of his views is this uh it's just really off-putting like um regard like I think it's more important to talk about like the environment that the guy was brought in like these mentioning that he's just been lied to
Starting point is 03:35:54 but he has like heroic instincts like any freaking normal human being has and that's him being a freaking normal human being is sufficient grounds to be like persecuted in this fucking political order we live in Ingo. That's exactly it. Right. And I want to step to something you're saying about him, D. Remember, I'm actually older than he was. If he was 50, I'm a year older than he was. So I can personally attest that, yes, I've been lied to my whole life. The only difference between he and I is that my life was burned down to, and that's why it's my handle, whiskey and ashes. And his wasn't. So I had to learn the hard way all the lies, what they all were. And I can attest to this because Charles and I kind of became anti- somebody's together in the last 10 years. Right?
Starting point is 03:36:41 Like, neither one of us started out. You know, Pete and I did a show like January time frame about how I used to love Dennis Prager. And this guy was lied to by the same people who were talking of like, oh, Trump had an incident. If Pete had me depressed like he deserves. and Jose Niño was the number one, you know, Latino columnist at the New York Times, right? Then this guy would know what's up. That's what would happen. This guy wouldn't be, you know, he was just lied to for his whole life about the fact that the Israelis are our friends.
Starting point is 03:37:28 I can't get mad at that guy for believing things. Like, he's not a bad guy by his, by, he showed the turn of his character by John. in front of a bullet for his wife and his kid. So I, I, this, this good man deserves better than to be, you know, talked about in a deraitary fashion because that's the who we're trying to save the country for. Exactly. Exactly. That's who, that's who's going to build.
Starting point is 03:37:53 Like, if we ever, if miracles happen and we somehow make this, make it so we're in charge good people, we're saying people we're in charge again, that guys like that are giving me the backbone of our society. they always were they always have been and they need to be respected and treated with them and and again they didn't go after donald trump because uh he's a nazi they went after him because they think he would stand up for ordinary white people that's why they went after him yes the fact that he was competent the fact that he had you know he could do a job that was that he was competent at, the fact that he's probably a hero on more than one occasion, the fact that, you know, he had a family that he took care of, a lot of different facts is just, I mean, they hate that. I mean, they'd much rather, they're, that person can't, that person doesn't need them. You know, the, you know, the welfare, the welfare queen with five or six kids, you know,
Starting point is 03:39:04 That's who they rely upon. That's their, that's their bread and butter. Their bread and butter is, or the, you know, is that, I forget who had the tweet today, but it said, you shoot into a crowd at a Trump rally and you hit a firefighter and a hero. You shoot into a crowd in Kenosha, Wisconsin. You hit a pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:39:29 And that's who they, you know, they'll never, they'll never. build the statute to this guy, but they would they don't mind, they would want to build the statute to, you know, these, these chomos that they that they thought were black until the trial actually
Starting point is 03:39:48 happened. Half of them didn't even know he was, half of them didn't even know that they were Jewish. Jimmy, Dore, who's, you know, slowly waking up guy on the left. I think we talked about him yesterday. Pete, like, he didn't know, he thought Kyle Rittenhouse was racist. He
Starting point is 03:40:04 just didn't know because he made attention to lefty media and they you know he heard this guy shot three people at a BLM rally and he thought he was racist that that's and the you know Aaron's been cooking lately and um you know tap the sign no matter how much you think you hate journalists mm-hmm it's not enough you know present company basically everyone who's ever been a reporter should be flogged just on general principle. Because those lies are destroying
Starting point is 03:40:40 our society and they're getting good people killed. Yep. Every day. Good people are getting killed. And our society is going down the drain because these people know the truth and refuse to talk about it.
Starting point is 03:40:57 Because they're Jews, because they're coming, because they're homosexuals, because they're the people that Pete talked. talked about this this uh the left depends on because they're affirmative action dei you know 350 pound black women with three inch nails yeah you got something Jose no yeah um yeah I want to double down on um these calls to clamp down on journalists because I was cooking also on Twitter like just calling for the the absolute destruction of corporate media and
Starting point is 03:41:31 like freaking clockwork there was the typical libertarian counter sing like oh like this stuff is like downstream from like the government i'm like i don't care if it's like private sector or public sector like we need like for shit regardless of um of like how it's being carried what capacity it's being carried out and it's freaking uh it's a it's a cancer on our policy like yeah it's all I have to say there yeah and you know another thing that that I'm getting is when I was talking
Starting point is 03:42:05 in my live stream today is yeah you have people who are like well you know Trump's not our guy Trump's Zogg Trump's it really you you fucking think I don't know this you fucking think I mean come on man
Starting point is 03:42:20 yeah I had some insightful commentary or something yeah yeah it's like really really I mean I had some agorist libertarian a couple weeks ago, no, you know, if you've, if Trump gets elected, it's going to be a, it's a pressure release valve on the right. Really? Where'd you read that? Did you read that? Was I writing that on my substack like two years ago? Well, who the fuck do you think, you think I haven't thought about all this shit? You think we don't, you know, yeah, I'm talking, you know, it talks to the guys from the OGC.
Starting point is 03:42:54 you think we don't know that Trump's not our guy yeah but we're going to be like they tried to kill him because he likes because he likes to chuds right because they they hate him because we like him right because we think
Starting point is 03:43:10 because we like him yeah they hate him because we don't eat us that's right yes that's it that's it yeah they hate him because he doesn't hate us exactly right that's exactly it and I stand by my statement I'm not going to back pedal They also hate him because he's just normal. I mean, for crying out loud, even Jimmy Dory had a great little blurb about him about Trump versus Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 03:43:34 And they're like, how bad are you? This is Jimmy Dory's words, not mine. I'm paraphrasing, of course, but you can find it. Jimmy Dory had a broadcast that I watched, and he was saying, how bad are you, Nancy Pelosi, that the average rural American identifies closer with Trump than he does with you, the guy that literally has gold-plated toilets and these people these people flock to Trump over you Nancy Pelosi like how far out of touch how anti-normal are you that they flocked to him it's like exactly because you know Trump still has a wife he has kids he doesn't hate
Starting point is 03:44:13 white people I mean he still always panders to all the other non-whites but he doesn't hate white people you know he's very much a civic nationalist again i'm not saying these are necessarily laudable points of being a civil civic nationalist but what i'm saying is they're far more normal than anybody any of the other anything the left can produce well one of the one of the great comments from my my chat this afternoon at my live stream chat was uh someone named ls said trump's politics aside he's been a stand in for white people and our collective will in the eyes of the enemy since he first started campaigning. This is an attack on us.
Starting point is 03:44:56 Yeah. Oh, agree. He's not, he, he's a symbol, nothing more. Yeah. Well, this goes back to what I said earlier in today's broadcast. I said that's why he can't die. If you roll it back, that's exactly what I said. I said, that's why he can't die.
Starting point is 03:45:13 I mean, that's why he should. That's why it would be very bad if he did. Not that, again, if you roll it back, I said not that he had, he had, obviously can be killed by a bullet. But I mean, that's why he's important because he is that symbol. He is that voice. And maybe it's not, yes, I know.
Starting point is 03:45:30 Everybody here knows, yes, he's not our guy. But he's the closest thing we've had in what, D, 100 years? You know, something like that? 70. 50 at least, Nixon or Kennedy. Yeah. Look what happened to both them.
Starting point is 03:45:44 Bingo. Now, will this radicalize him? You know, one of the things that I've said today on Twitter was, you know, he's, from what I understand, he's gone straight to Milwaukee today. So he'll be there for a couple days before he gives his speech. He'll be out of the public eye. It would be awesome if they wrote him this in, like, the best speech we've heard in 100 years, where he just calls these people out for what they did. you know, and, you know, basically says the stuff that we're saying. And he goes on the offensive against these people.
Starting point is 03:46:25 Even if he doesn't, this is still a narrative that we can use. Yes. This is still a narrative. This is still our narrative. Yes. We don't. In the end, the same people who will say, you know, well, you know, Trump can't save us. When you talk about narrative, they're like, well, you know, you know, you, you know,
Starting point is 03:46:46 You need a politician. No, you don't. You don't need a politician to push a narrative. Right. And the same people, they make it seem like we believe that a politician is actually coming to save us. Right. I don't think any of us believe that. No.
Starting point is 03:47:05 Put not your trust in princes. The Bible itself says that. Put not your trust in princes. Was that grown from me, Jose, or was that from? This wasn't true. No, no, no, no, no, no. I would add to some of these people is that they needed to start, like, assuming their historical role altogether,
Starting point is 03:47:30 because a lot of things are up for grabs, to be honest, here. This is not the system that we see before our eyes is actually unraveling. And people are going to have to step up. the play or else somebody else will and it's probably going to be some fucked up actor or in some cases some controlled opposition and i think this is this is the time uh for heroes not um people sitting on the sidelines or typing from their computers and you can do this in many ways to whether it's actually producing good content or like getting out there like in the political realm and acquiring the necessary experience to actually become a net positive
Starting point is 03:48:20 there but um they like these types here i just think that like um the the system ultimately wants you to be just another um de-personized bug man and the system that's doing nothing like that's just um contributing to this overall epistemic pollution of bad takes and um i guess like letting things go as they are but i i do believe that um i actually do um take some pleasure and just watching the system collapse because it's going to force people to go back to their primordial animalistic tendencies of going back to like a hard politics because um i want the system to um right to unravel and we need uh we need people to like actually stop being
Starting point is 03:49:14 pussies and actually get ready to inflict pain on these degenerates. Amen. I've got another engagement gentleman. Good conversation. I've got to duck out, but
Starting point is 03:49:29 this is, it's over. Whatever Nuremberg regime nonsense they're going to talk about, like, I will, I know long of regard. I didn't think the 2020 election was legit. um ordinary people now see the system for what it is and i i just don't i don't know what comes next um but there's no chance after this that the average trump supporter is going to
Starting point is 03:49:57 accept a biden victory they just there's just not and they shouldn't and uh we'll see how it plays out but um seeing all these people on ticot lose their minds they missed oh like like Like, they know that they want, that they don't hate Trump. They hate them. They hate ordinary people. They hate saying people. They hate healthy people. They hate people to go to church.
Starting point is 03:50:23 So it's going to, it's going to be a very fraught few months. And like Charles said, you know, make your peace with the fact that it could be any time and be prepared. Yeah. Well, if you're going to get out of here, man. Thank you for, thank you for showing up. And I think we're going to wrap up, too, because, yeah, I think, I think we're at an end here. I'll give everybody a chance to drop any other opinions they have on what's going on. And then, then we'll end this.
Starting point is 03:50:57 So if you need to dip out, DE, thank you. Thank you for showing up again. I appreciate it. All right, Charles, you have anything you want to end up, end with? No, I think, I think everything's been covered pretty clearly. I just wanted to make a few points regarding the, Earlier, I wanted to make a few points about the potential conspiracy theories, and I side with you largely on all of it.
Starting point is 03:51:20 I think that's the wrong direction to head in, and the right direction is to make the utmost use of this as we can. And just to reiterate, and I'll drop it after this, but just to reiterate once again, this is an existential fight. This is, I really don't believe it's about ideologies. I'm going to lean on the mystery, the famous, the now famous mystery growth tweet. everything out the ideology is just window dressing this is the ugly deformed freaks wanting to destroy everything that is beautiful and good and everything else is just window dressing and just be
Starting point is 03:51:56 ready this is the garden of guest them any moment for many of us so be ready what do you got jose i would just like to reiterate that we are witnessing a system collapse uh contrary to what's some people who say like the, that the American Empire has good, like, multiple decades in it. I don't believe that at all. I actually do think that we are witnessing unenravelling out the system. And as a result, you're going to see a breakdown in political norms where basic legislative functions and all of that are just not going to take place. And as a result of that, you're going to see extra political forms of violence in other. forms of conflict manifest themselves across the U.S.
Starting point is 03:52:46 and then suing decades. And hard, like, very, like, crude forms of primitive politics are going to emerge. And people must be ready for this because we've been way too conditioned since World War II. There's, like, Mr. Smith goes to Washington or schoolhouse rock type politics where things happen in, like, an orderly, like, polite, manner. That's going to go out the window soon, man, and people are going to have to, like, learn actual skills where they have to band together. They can no longer hide behind computers or engage in abstractions. They're going to have to, like, build stuff together. They're going
Starting point is 03:53:25 to have to, like, commit selfless acts of, like, heroism like, um, like this guy at the Trump rally did. Because, um, the days of deracinated individualism and mindless consumerism are are over you're going to have to fight for like a much like higher purpose and interact with people and build like solidarity because you can't do that you pretty much lost because most politics is organized in nature and those who can dish out organized violence more effectively are the ones who end that's a great message that's great that's a great way to put it Jose yeah the you know if you want to start taking back that that first foot, that yard, that, you know, that 100 yards, that
Starting point is 03:54:20 mile, you're not going to be able to do it alone. You're going to have to find people to do it with no reconquest, no conquest was taken alone. You need someone, you need people there. So, you know, when Jose says this whole deracinated individualism, this, this classical liberal libertarianism, it's dead. It's dead and gone. I mean, it's just It's time for great men and people assuming historical roles.
Starting point is 03:54:52 Yeah, and you know, you can try to make great men out of people who are telling you that you, oh, you know, you deserve to be left alone. And, yeah, but if they're not willing to if they're not willing to become a bulwark,
Starting point is 03:55:08 a literal, physical bullwork. and start to work with you to do that. They're not great men. They're just, they're selling you something. They're selling you something or they're just, they're misguided. There is misguided as you are. And now I hate to say that because I like a lot of people who preach that message.
Starting point is 03:55:34 But at this point in time, after what we saw yesterday, I mean, taking that shot at Trump no matter what you thought happened the whole the whole idea behind that is to take a shot at you if you don't agree with them
Starting point is 03:55:54 and that that bullet was meant for you they're just I mean they hate Trump because they see him as a stand in for what you are what you believe for who you are. And
Starting point is 03:56:12 yeah, to believe that you can allow this regime to just keep, you know, gaining power but also destroying everything.
Starting point is 03:56:31 It just, if they're going to destroy, you have to build. And well soon. That starts, that starts, that starts, starts with the first, with the first foot in the first yard. Yep.
Starting point is 03:56:43 And, yeah. Reconquise that is. Yeah. We are, we are at reconquist, the reconquista stage. So, yeah, that's it. Gentlemen, thank you for joining me. And, yeah, until the next time. Thank you, Pete.
Starting point is 03:57:01 Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Take care. And the Thought Crime Syndicate is back. how are you gentlemen doing? Who has something that's on their mind that's so pressing they want to jump in with the subject?
Starting point is 03:57:16 Good to be here, Pete. Thanks so much for having me again. Just to recap real quick, nothing ever happens, which is why since the last time we recorded a month ago, there's been an assassination attempt with probable assistance of the Secret Service,
Starting point is 03:57:32 a coup, the Olympics where Satan isn't beginning to end, and it looks like a race where it's kicking off in the UK. Did I miss anything? Nothing ever happens. Come on. That's ridiculous. I don't think you missed anything there.
Starting point is 03:57:54 Just a normal day. Yeah. Well, a lot of people are bringing up the fact that, like, Trump, now he's posting videos on Twitter, again and a lot of people are upset that he's not using there's only one video that i really saw where he used the assassination what do you think should he just be i mean should that be something he should just every video and every time he speaks he should be talking about that and uh and just staying on that one subject i'm a bit torn on that topic i i can kind of see both sides of the fence
Starting point is 03:58:30 not to be wishy-washy but to be genuine i can see tried kind of overplaying the hand if you will, but I think it would behoove him to at least keep it in the public mindset. I don't know if that would involve. I'm not a marketing expert. I'm not a positioning expert when it comes to things like that, but I just think it would behoove him to continually reference it at the very least, if not, maybe not use the video all the time or constantly talk about it 24-7, but definitely keep it in the public mindset. Because it is important.
Starting point is 03:59:04 It really is. as it's been said many times they're not after him they're after us he's just in the way and i think it's true i 100% believe it to be true that's what i would yeah that's that's what i would um that's the message i would be sending constantly i'd be sending you know um i i would cut images of the border being invaded i just saw a video of like a cartel people dropping off on like wave riders or skis-dos dropping people off in the beach in San Diego. I'd super cut a bunch of that along with a bunch of the Muslims carrying knives and stuff walking down the street in the UK and all that.
Starting point is 03:59:44 And then I'd say, you know, and then show that, say, they're not after us. Or they're not after me. They're after all of us. And then just, you know, Trump 2024. Yeah, I think that he's, uh, it seems like his can. or he had decided that they were going to try and hold stuff back and you know basically not let Trump be Trump like he was in 2016 I think the hiring of Cory Lewandowski and a couple other people this week signal that he may they may be
Starting point is 04:00:22 ready to let him go off leash I honestly think they're just waiting for the the DNC the Democrat National Convention to be over because If you can just sit back for a few more days and let that pop off and see whether, you know, all of these pro-Palestinian protesters show up and cause like 1968 type of riots, then you have a ton of stuff to play off of. You have, I mean, that'll just show you. that'll, this is the, this is what you're going to get. You're going to get chaos if these people win. If the, you know, if the cackling hen and the hen pecked husband, you know, who doesn't have an opinion outside of his wife and every female friend that he has,
Starting point is 04:01:19 um, if they, if you elect them, this is our future. And just, you know, you know, hopefully they have some like 1916. type fire hose footage or something like that well remember in 2016 remember that that they put a fence around the DNC so that all the Bernie people couldn't get couldn't get in and I mean remember like what was it 50% of the delegates walked out if I'm recalling characterly I remember watching it and just cackling like a madman I'm I was glued to to watching it. But they never really capitalized on that. And I thought that was, again, they didn't capitalize on it. And again, I thought that was one of the many mistakes that he
Starting point is 04:02:09 and his people had made throughout the beginning of their tenure and beyond. So I hope they learn from the mistake there and take your advice here and capitalize on whatever may happen this time around. But I think it would be good to keep in mind that there was a lot of drama, if you will, and a lot of opportunity in the 2016 DNC that they just simply didn't capitalize upon. But I'm hoping that they'll take your advice here. Overall, I think the Trump campaign needs to avoid, in my opinion, turning this into just some boring debate about public policy
Starting point is 04:02:51 and start using much more visceral imagery and just more like primitive. appeals to the population that we're dealing with an opposition that are just about the savages that are going to unleash chaos and bash our heads in if we don't push them back. And I think the DNC will provide a ton of content to riff off of it, especially with a lot of these pro-Palestine protesters and disgruntled leftists that are probably going to re-cap it because like Chicago
Starting point is 04:03:28 is going to have like a lot of those in scores and I think it would be a total folly by the Trump campaign by going the high road and turning this into some boring policy debate as opposed to like just showing that like
Starting point is 04:03:44 what we're dealing with here is America versus anti-America on the other side Excellent point You got something to eat Well I think that there's a I think Jose is completely right And I've heard from multiple people that
Starting point is 04:04:02 They're not actually aimed at getting you know The 5 to 10% of the black butter what they say that they're gonna get What they're aimed at is like Suburban women who are milk toast about like not one nice white suburban Ladies And that might be true and it it discussed me that you know for the last 50 years The presidency has been decided by Whoever made the most, you know, housewives in Ohio and Pennsylvania, you know, feel funny.
Starting point is 04:04:28 But that's the absurdity of the, you know, society we live in. And as I've said for years, you know, nothing is going to get fixed long term until we repeal the 19th Amendment. That's the separate discussion. What you need to do is make it clear to voters that this election is not about, and I have plenty of criticism to Donald Trump. No, we need to bring tons of people with AI. Like, no, actually, it's a complete opposite of that. So Donald Trump is messaging completely wrong. But this election is about,
Starting point is 04:05:01 are we going to have a civilization or are we not? Those are our choice. It's a 50-50. You know, and the United States will not survive as a functional entity if we get another 20 million freeloaders
Starting point is 04:05:23 who are of you know misdezo or African racial stock here and spent keep spending money like you've been spending money without any real growth
Starting point is 04:05:33 in the private sector the United States will fall apart and most of our states aren't in a position to be able to you know do the local thing and actually survive
Starting point is 04:05:42 you know Alabama governor K Ivy right like she's not actually prepared to do what we necessarily to make Alabama function absent massive amounts of federal dollars, just for example. So this election is actually really important. I know that the, for years, they say this is the most important election ever, but actually, this one actually is pretty important.
Starting point is 04:06:06 Because as Charles pointed out, they're not after Donald Trump. They're after you. Look at what's happening in England. Do you think the police in the United States are any less hostile to ordinary white people? how many little kids have been killed in the United States by immigrants or by just black criminals and if white people in you know when Canada and was killed if white people in you know I think of South Carolina
Starting point is 04:06:34 but if every time a white person who was just needsly slaughtered by an illegal immigrant white people got out there and rioted and started burning down you know Iglesia do lose immigration church whatever Do you think the cops wouldn't just start beating the shit out of light people? I mean, they're just as hostile here. They're just a little bit more reticent about it because we have guns. They're just a soft out.
Starting point is 04:06:59 I think on the point you're raising, Dee, I just want to say very briefly, when you say that this important, they always say that, well, this election is the most important one. I agree with you. I think for once the blind squirrel has found a nut. I think this really is very important. and to sort of give a metaphor to what you're saying about this election to will we have a civilization or not i i sort of look at it roughly i haven't had a lot of time to think about it because i'm just roughing off of what you said but i look at it as a very tumultuous river before us that we could easily step in when we try to for it and get carried away and drown and this election is simply are we going to tip a log over the river across the river so that we can walk across to civilization or are we going to walk into the river get swept
Starting point is 04:07:52 away and drowned and the reason i use that as a metaphor is because we we all know every man in this panel knows trump is not going to save us it's not going to happen he's just a democrat from the 80s now does that mean we shouldn't vote for him absolutely not like again he is a bridge to get us where we need to go. He is not the end destination. Hopefully that makes sense to you gentlemen. Well, one of the things that I would say is I have an episode coming out tomorrow with some, if you listen to Judge Napolitano show, you probably heard him. Larry Johnson, former CIA agent. Yes, he's fantastic. Yeah, he's great. Yeah. The reason I had him on is because it became very clear to me, listening to people like Mark Andresen, that our military is 20 years behind Russia and even Iran.
Starting point is 04:08:55 So I wanted him to come on and say that and, you know, say that. Talk about why. And, yeah, he basically says Russia has things, Russia has technology, even Iran has technology. I mean, he says that one of the missiles that was shot at Israel actually changed direction mid-flight as it was falling and, like, did a 90-degree turn, then did another 90-degree turn to evade countermeasures. He goes, that's not something we have. So if we're, if we're 10 to 20 years behind Iran, we're definitely behind Russia. I mean, Russia is far beyond military technology what we have. not having people in there
Starting point is 04:09:43 who recognize this and want to do something about this is not only going to spell our demise from the inside but I mean it could be a double whammy of demise from the outside as well well I mean Tucker's talked about this a little bit but we're just getting reverse opium crisis right now
Starting point is 04:10:04 what is fentanyl but a Chinese weapon it's a weapon to destroy the United States like you are my friend Trey Garrison wrote a book available from Animal Appeal publishing
Starting point is 04:10:15 you know about the opioid crisis pick it up if you can um this is a just this was a bullet aimed at the heart of America and the same people
Starting point is 04:10:30 who took the factories that those people who used to work at you know the Chinese allowed you know, massive amounts of drugs that kill people into the United States. And it's, you know, Trump's trade policy is the only way, you know, that we're going to be able to defend ourselves.
Starting point is 04:10:56 Like if your antibiotics and your chips and everything else that, like, you actually require to be sovereign, is made somewhere else, you're not a sovereign country. sorry we're not yeah the book that um the book i'm reading right now um kudatah by edward litbach that's one of the the big takeaways in that book is that there's only six or seven countries in the world that can make military technology especially military aviation that can help you win a war that can actually cause you to win a war that's that's powerful enough for you to defeat your enemy. And because of that, any, like, African nation that does business with one of those seven countries is basically enslaved to them. They're relying on them for
Starting point is 04:11:49 parts. They're relying on them for training. They're relying on them for everything. And that's where we are right now when it comes to China with a lot of the parts for our military, for our, for our, um, for for our military equipment and drugs and I mean basically. Yeah, everything runs up like this now. And so if you don't control your own microchips, you're
Starting point is 04:12:15 not sovereign. And so the book I mentioned is opioids for the masses by tricarrison. But so before Sweden joined NATO, when they were still neutral, they had their own indigenous combat aircraft in that.
Starting point is 04:12:33 I can't remember the name of the manufacturer, but they did. And many years ago, like 10 or 15, when I was first starting to learn about this stuff, I looked it up. The Nordic countries by themselves, so Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Finland, and Norway had more combat aircraft than all of sub-Saharan Africa bar, South Africa. And, like, put together, they had, like, 25 million people total. But, yeah, like, five little countries in North Atlantic had, you know, a tenth the population of, like, two or three, right?
Starting point is 04:13:25 Nigeria has, like, 100 million people almost, and Egypt has, like, 100 million people, and by themselves. Like these five little Nordic countries had more combat aircraft than all of Africa put together. Referring to the drug point that you raised earlier, D, about the fentanyl crisis and the Chinese, I think it's excellent that it is, it is just the opium 2.0. But I think it's interesting that the Chinese send this in and the elites use the drugs to kill the folks that would do the jobs that were now getting immigrants to come in and do. I mean, I think that's sort of the sick and vicious cycle. They used to say when I was growing up, oh, immigrants are doing the jobs, Americans
Starting point is 04:14:11 won't do. Well, is it that or that you're murdering by degrees, literally, the populations that will do these jobs. Not only are we losing the population that will do these jobs due to the cratering birth rate, but you're outright killing the other percentage that would, thereby by fostering this invasion. So I just wanted to mention that to your point. I'd like to raise another point that I think is sorely lacking in any discussions regards to China. I think it cannot be appreciated the role. I believe that Chinese espionage in the Anglo-Sphere countries with large degrees of legal
Starting point is 04:14:56 Chinese migration from Canada, Australia to the U.S., how these legal migrants have basically formed the fifth column embedding themselves in universities. And I dare to say even military institutions where they're probably facilitating massive forms of corporate and military transfers back to the Chinese mainland. I think that has played a significant role in. not only bridging the gap between the U.S. and China in terms of military power, but potentially giving it China advantages. And the fact that you have all these China Hawks not talking about, like, saying, let's have a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0, like, ban all freaking Chinese nationals from even setting foot on these territories and, like, seizing their assets and all that stuff. Um, they just revert to the typical, um, neo-con, like, regime change stuff.
Starting point is 04:16:00 Oh, we're not gonna, we're not fighting the Chinese people. We're fighting the Chinese government. This type of like low IQ form of politicking is, um, it's just like a symptom of really, of this rot that we're facing, the civilizational rot where we aren't defining like what our civilization is. didn't feel like, and we have to start being a lot more exclusionary from trade to the immigration restriction and not cuck ourselves by falling for politically correct tropes or embracing inadequate ideologies from civic nationalism to neoconservatism. Yeah, well, I think that you're completely correct there. But let's not forget, it's also the Indian government. Like, liberalism is moral syphilis, as Jonathan Bowden used to say, and it makes you crazy and makes your virility fall off, as it were.
Starting point is 04:17:03 So we have this idea that, you know, seek truck drivers who just run over kids in Canada. Like, they're just as capable of driving truck as anybody else. It's like, no, no, this is not true. Every time someone gets busted for espionage, like the U.S. Navy, it's like Lieutenant, you know, Harry Lee busted for, you know, like, of course, he's only second generation Chinese. He has cousins in China right now. I was going to say that. I was talking to somebody the other day who is in the know, and they said that basically everyone who ever gets arrested for espionage. and sending secrets to China
Starting point is 04:17:52 is either a Chinese national who's here visiting or somebody who is from a Chinese family who may be second and even third generation is it it's not white people it's Chinese right well and look at look at you know look at what's the most famous case of espionage ever
Starting point is 04:18:09 it's the Rosenberg yeah you know Stalin wouldn't have had nukes without you know a certain tribe right like this is not a new problem we just need to we as white people just need to be honest enough right we need to shed liberalism as such and just be honest enough like no no one else is going to and I think it was Joe sober who you know there's that long quote from Joe sobering that like we don't understand how resentful everyone else is because we're just they live in our world and they know it and they resent us for it I could find it you know but but basically, right? You know, the Chinese
Starting point is 04:18:54 for the last 500 years have lived in a world defined by bearded dudes from the North Sea. And they're the oldest civilization on earth and it rankles them. Do you think, do you really think Xi Jinping likes having to put on a suit and tie to conduct business?
Starting point is 04:19:14 Excellent. Why isn't he wearing a Mandarin costume? Why isn't that the, the, the mode of formal dress. It's because we dominate them so much that they have to wear our clothes and speak our language and use our technology. And of course it makes people mad. Of course they resent it. Yeah, that's excellent point.
Starting point is 04:19:37 I mean, a lot of this to kind of dovetail your, Jose's point with you, Dee, you've been saying for years, and I've, well, we both have, but you've vociferously been saying, a lot of the problems we have, you just have to have the fortitude to just deal with them. We know what the solutions are. We know what they are. And the solution is, as Jose said, you have to start excluding huge swaths of the population. You have to. That's it. It doesn't get better if you don't. And that's a lot of this, the issues that we're having is just having the fortitude to make those decisions, to make those claims. But again, that also goes back to your point about the 19th Amendment, which is a whole other discussion. But I know for a fact regarding specifically
Starting point is 04:20:20 the Chinese, I've said on, I'm fairly certain I've said on this program multiple times, all the F1 visas, like a tremendous, huge, huge percentage of them are all just spies. They're just here to take our intellectual property, both military and civilian. They're just here to take that. That's all. That's why when Trump said he wanted to give citizenship to everybody that goes to school here. I could have puked blood. I was like, that's just absolutely insane. That's, that's absolutely, 100% bat shit crazy. Like, that's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard in my life. It's just, I couldn't believe it. It knocked me over how bad it was. Because you're exactly right, Jose. That's what the vast majority of this is. If they're here, 80 to 90% of it is just, is
Starting point is 04:21:11 just espionage, either corporate or military, but that's what it is. That's a simple fact. Well, just their presence is that there are ordinary 105 to 110 IQ white people
Starting point is 04:21:28 who could do those jobs that were destroyed by the evil education system brought to us by the tribe and given weed and opioids and Netflix to make them retarded so that they're not people of actually living up to their intellectual potential and doing those sorts of jobs.
Starting point is 04:21:45 And then when those people have been destroyed, lo and behold, like, oh, well, we need someone to do this job that requires a work ethic and 108 IQ. So we have to bring in a Chinese person. Like, no, you could have just found a white dude from freaking Kansas, but you got him addicted to weed when he was 12. So now he's a retard. I want to expand upon a point D.E. raised about like the Rosenbergs, because this just goes to show the level of decay we have in leadership because back in the Cold War, at least when you had like a white European political establishment, they at least had the common sense to erect certain immigration reforms that excluded at least communists, which were overwhelmingly
Starting point is 04:22:34 represented by the tribe. But nowadays, though, you can't even do that because of the fact that you have just a totally alien ruling class that is just going to resort to say oh we just need to like educate and convince these people about our values or whatever and when it the the real simple answer is like hell no like this is all this is our land from our European ancestors if you're um not part of this um overall stock like get the fuck out like it's simple as you're not like invited but we can't have these type of conversations and i would also add another point that um regards to like something of pete said um immigration whether it's illegal or illegal has multi-generational
Starting point is 04:23:26 effects it's not just about like the immediate boost to like the GDP or whatever you could have legit colonies of people that um for in like 30 to 40 to 40 years that could be tapped into by an external actor um i think in the chinese case they have like this like united front work department or something like that this bureaucracy that um is dedicated to tapping into the chinese diaspora abroad from the u.s even down to panama countries like panama which have close like three to five percent of the population there is chinese and they do that for like outreach to embed themselves and project influence and you even see this too in europe with the so-called long arm of Ankara how the Turkish government does the same type of outreach
Starting point is 04:24:26 and influence projection there and these are migrant communities have been there for generations so yeah like this is the problem why you can't cuck on the legal immigration issue either well like Italy got hit so hard by coronavirus because there's tens of hundreds of thousands of Chinese working in Italian factories in North Italy right um because you know it's made in Italy by Chinese people right so all the luxury stuff well the general just the generational thing I mean look at UK these some of these rape gangs these aren't like new they're second and third generation yes Yeah, 40 years. Yeah. What do you expect when you import, you're not importing people. You're importing a culture. Exactly.
Starting point is 04:25:19 And when you protect that culture and you say this culture needs to be able to live their culture out while you're destroying the native culture by bringing in people from another culture and saying this is the dominant, basically just saying this is the dominant culture now. This is the culture that needs, if it's not going to be dominant, this is the only one that's allowed to be respected. And now you basically have people who are living in their ancestors' land. And it's, and they, it is, I would probably say that to live in, like, to live in one of those towns, what's one of those towns that were as, um, fire southern, what was one, Sutherland or I can't remember the name of it. I think that in Spain, yeah, in Spain, under the Reconquista, the average Spanish person lived better under more rule there than the average English person is living in Great Britain right now. Excellent. Absolutely. If you take out the city of London, England's, England's a third world country.
Starting point is 04:26:32 Oh, yes, yes. if you remove city of london which you've talked about pete um from from their figures uh england is poorer than mississippi holy hell yeah it's poorer than some second world countries yeah like poland and whatnot like uh yeah i'm um i'm about to read uh that vassal state book about how like england has been just completely like hollowed out by the judeo american empire and Yeah, I really do think that people need to start thinking about the multi-generational facets of mass migration in these debates, because let's be brutally honest here. Like, let's look at the black population in the U.S. Like nobody is going to say a straight face after like 400 years of like residing here that they've like assimilated to U.S. culture.
Starting point is 04:27:27 And like this applies to a lot of alien cultures here that are coming. We have to start being, like, brutally honest and have these uncomfortable conversations because we should not be sugar-coding this stuff any longer. No, you're 100% right. And there's a few things. I've been kind of taking notes during this conversation to just stay on track. And I've come to a few things you said earlier, Jose, that I would like to address. And I'd like to dovetail them with Pete if I can keep my thoughts coherent here on my end. First, I'd like to say when you said the European stock that we have, we needed to keep.
Starting point is 04:28:03 and we needed to keep it in power. Well, remember, it's written specifically for ourselves and our posterity. I mean, this was my family's nation. This was D's nation. This was, like, it was peace. It was our, it was our nation. This was our people. And I also want to say, having worked in immigration, and this is something I'm touching
Starting point is 04:28:26 on that you said also, Jose, like, I could tell you, like, not only is that necessary, I can give you some the biggest reason it is and this dovetails with pizza as well like assimilation is a myth that doesn't happen you I it really doesn't you either conquer
Starting point is 04:28:44 or you are conquered you don't really assimilate you don't just show up and say hey I'm going to I'm going to do what everybody else does that that's not really a thing unless you're unless you're in small doses in small areas and it's definitely not going to happen
Starting point is 04:28:58 if you're in a place that quote unquote celebrates all cultural is equal. How is that going to work? What's there to assimilate to? What is the motivation to assimilate? Like when my family, mindless consumerism. Right, exactly. When my family came on my father's side from Portugal, Italy, respectively, like there was nothing written in Portuguese. There's nothing written in Italian. It was English because that was the culture here. If you want to live here, then you have to be conquered. You have to assimilate, but really we're going to conquer you. If you come here, we're going to conquer you. You know, my family's like,
Starting point is 04:29:36 hey, that's fine. I chose to live here, so I lose the war. They basically forfeit a cultural battle is what I'm trying to say in a succinct language that they have to come here. You have to forfeit a cultural battle. But instead, what have we done here? The best population has forfeited the cultural battle, which is insane. Because once you forfeit the cultural battle, you forfeit the geography it's just that easy and in regards to your your point hose about about coming to america how you about communism and things like that it's like i i worked in immigration up till the year 2005 okay i understand it's getting further and further away every day so that's 19 years ago now but that's still within every man's here's lifetime like this is it's not some ancient
Starting point is 04:30:25 history that you wield me out of a hospice to talk about 90 years ago that i can vaguely remember. Like, this is literally 19 years ago. And I'm telling you, for a fact, I used to give citizenship tests with that very question on it. Are you now or have you ever been part of the Communist Party? Like, that was there. And technically, that was an exclusionary thing that you could be excluded from citizenship for. Now, was I ever allowed to really exclude anybody for it? No, but was it still on the books? Absolutely. But again, This relates to something D has said for quite some time at Pete and you and I, and I definitely myself. Like, the problem isn't that we can't solve the problems.
Starting point is 04:31:11 That is not the problem in America. And I know D will back me up vociferously on this. The problem is we aren't allowed to solve the problems. And this goes back to your point, too, Jose, that a lot of this is simply, no, you just can't come here. That'll solve 40% of our problems. No, if you're from this country, you can't come here. That's it. Like, it's that easy.
Starting point is 04:31:31 it isn't rocket science it sounds difficult but it isn't rocket science that's it so i just wanted to address all the points you gentlemen made hopefully that was coherent what i was trying to say therefore you put them all together i mean yet you see the inverse because it's really a a question of political will you see the inverse the present occupation class is also exclusionary towards us towards people like us like because they're they know um full well that if we get any semblance of power, it's going to be tacitized in something that's going to see them get overthrown and further down the line.
Starting point is 04:32:11 And it really a lot of politics boils down to the ability to use exclusionary power and other forms of state power to ensure that usurpers are kept at bay. And that's the thing. It's not a question that we don't have like the tools or whatever. It's that we are legitimately being excluded through de-platforming and other mechanisms from being engaged in the political arena. Exactly right. And just to touch something I brought up earlier, there was a coup. There was a coup.
Starting point is 04:32:48 The president of the United States was basically barred from running again by some intern in his office sending out a tweet. And no one's talking about it. you know, like right after the former president who probably won the 2020 election, you know, was a, was assassinated to assassination with the obvious either incompetence or assistance of the Secret Service, that right after that, right? The deep state basically said, we're getting rid of Joe Biden. And to bring up Jose to dovetel with Jose's point here, the reason programs like this and everything, else that people are doing is so important, is very simple. If you know about it, you can do something about it. And the vast, overwhelming infrastructure of media and information and everything, finance, it's all geared towards the Nurembergene regime against you learning about things,
Starting point is 04:33:56 because then you could organize in solidarity. you know, like Thomas always says, like the whole point of Interimberg regime is to keep conservative white people from being able to exercise political sovereignty. That's the point of the nerve group because the second conservative white people do anything that's, you know, mustache man and, you know, goose stepping and, you know, and you can see it. Like, Candace Owens was just talking to, um, not annotate, uh, his brother. them, Tristan Tink. And they brought up Ursula Havaback without mentioning her name. And one of the things that Tristan brought up is like, why are all these people who were born in the 70s or the 50s
Starting point is 04:34:41 judging Ursula Haviback for stuff that she says she saw with her own eyes? Why, you know, the media will say to you, yeah, I know that you just got robbed by a black guy, but it's not the black people that's the problem. It's like, well, I just got beaten up and robbed by a black guy. I just watched Mexicans or Hispanics or mischizos or whatever cross the border carrying pounds of drugs. Why are you telling me what I'm seeing with my own eyes is a lie and if I talk about it, I'm a bigot?
Starting point is 04:35:17 Because the second people can actually say, oh, yeah, actually. It is, you know, this problem. it is it is black Americans who commit huge amounts of crime and are you know a friend of mine privately in conversation do you know why every baby in America has to have like goop put on their eyes Tucker Carlson just had a brother's sister couple talk about the health industry in the United States but every baby in America that's born gets like antibiotic ointment put on their eyes do you know why that is because 46% of black women have an STD and so every baby in America gets treated for this disease that most people don't have but because there's one
Starting point is 04:35:57 population that just can't not be filthy and disgusting and have diseases liberalism says we have to treat everybody the same and we have to treat everyone like they're you know potentially have STDs like well what about all the boring married people who just don't fool around on their spouse and just to have kids? kids together. Or we need to treat them like hood rats. What? Why is, why is this even happening? And the irony is like, as you say, it's the worst part of it is it isn't that we're treating the married couple like the hood rat. It's that we're treating the hood rat like the married couple. That's the worst part. Like, we're giving the hood rat, the vote. We're giving
Starting point is 04:36:47 them a say in society. We're giving them access to firearms. you know, Second Amendment, do you follow my point deep? You see where I'm going with that? Like, that's what the worst part of it is to me. It isn't necessarily, yes, you're right. It's crazy and it's goofy that we do what you're saying. But what I'm saying, it's worse that it goes the other direction.
Starting point is 04:37:09 What's that? Right, yeah. Like, yeah, the Second Amendment shouldn't apply to black people. Like, just like the founders intended. Sorry, like, you don't get guns because you guys don't. Like, you can, like, okay, Tom Sewell and. Walter Williams and Candice Owens and, you know, Alan Keyes. Okay, those like tics black people can have guns.
Starting point is 04:37:29 Everyone else? No, sorry. You don't know. Alan Keyes. I've heard that name in a while. That's a well-regulated militia that they're always saying we should have. And because that's what the Second Amendment says. It's like, okay, let's well-regulate the militia then.
Starting point is 04:37:43 Only these people that show up for these things can get guns. Okay, let's do that. And then watch how quickly they don't want us to play by that ruling. just watch how fast that's it and to go back to kind of dovetail your point d well they do that with the franchise well to kind of join jose's and d's points together like this this is the real reason they don't want us to get any kind of foothole as you said jose why they really want to prevent us from any kind of foothole and also why thomas triple seven you know says the purpose of the nuremberg regime i i think it's simply to go back to what you said d it's like because they know everyone will be speaking
Starting point is 04:38:21 speaking English the instant they do. They know everyone will be wearing suits. Everyone will be wearing Western clothes. Everyone will be doing Western things within 15 years. And I mean, I know people are listening going, we already do that. It's like, right, but I've just, it's an example. They know that our victory will be so total, so complete, so utter, that they just have to stop it before it even starts. They can't let the ball even start rolling. because then it goes back to what you said, Dee, is that everyone will have to adopt what we have. They'll just have to.
Starting point is 04:39:00 There will be no other real, real workable alternative. If they want to enjoy any of the benefits of what we provide, it's just going to be that simple. Well, I wanted to, I thought Charles Haywood had a pretty good tweet today about immigration. Let's go back to that. He said, the migrants who ultimately, overwhelmed Rome were nothing like the migrants overwhelming us. In some ways, most were superior to the Romans. The migrants-dwesting ruling class invites to invade us today are almost all the
Starting point is 04:39:34 civilizational slop. That is the default state of the world for all of history, where even successful civilizations accomplish very little. If not for the West, that is. What succeeded and built upon the Romans, the entire globe would today live in the world of the 15th century, or more likely the 7th century, and not the Western version of either. What follows if Europe and America drown is, most likely, not some new synthesis that takes us to the stars, but nothing worthwhile, nothing that advances mankind in any way, perhaps for thousands of years or forever, given the exhaustion of easily extractable energy. This is the core reason all migrants must be expelled from America and our society remade,
Starting point is 04:40:17 since just getting rid of them won't fix all the problems of our civilizational decay. Charles is one of the wisest men in the world. I can't disagree with anything there. And, right, this is obvious. I mean, Charles is, Mr. Haywood, rather, is a very articulate man, and he's both insightful and successful, so I can't put it better than he can. But to just elaborate on that for a second, Why did we give all of these people access to stuff that they didn't build themselves?
Starting point is 04:40:58 Like, no one in Africa built a wheel, sub-Saharan Africa, built a wheel until white people showed up. They didn't have writing. Do you know what's going to happen? Like, I think I've talked about this in the past. There's three possibilities. We win. I think that's probably the remotest chance. and we stop subsidizing them
Starting point is 04:41:20 and they die by the hundreds of millions because they're not receiving Western subsidies anymore we lose may all end up here everywhere ends up being Africa and everyone dies because they're starving or the Chinese win and the Chinese stops subsidizing them and millions of people die
Starting point is 04:41:39 there's no there's no future where you know that what Steve Saylor calls the most important graph in the world where there's like 100 billion Africans in, you know, 2200. It's just not going to happen. We're going to run out of petroleum. We're going to run out of something. Some key component of that chain that enables that sort of thing to happen is going to run out.
Starting point is 04:42:03 And once that, you know, once that little support is kicked out, the whole thing's going to fall apart like a jenga tower. So if you're just honest about these things, it's like a feedback loop where you keep putting more energy in the system to make it more and more unstable it's like a watching it you ever seen like a truck jackknife
Starting point is 04:42:27 going down the highway right and the amplitude of the jackknife just gets worse and worse and worse and worse until the whole thing falls apart we're just adding more energy to the swing instead of trying to correct it and trying to make it make it stop jackknifing and stop swinging back and forth
Starting point is 04:42:44 back and forth, wider and wider and wider kill. You know, a bunch of people were dead and the whole highway is destroyed. We're going to just keep adding, making things worse. If we don't do what Charles just said, if we don't stop making things worse, be a liberalism and mass migration and perversion and everything else, then we're just making things worse. We're actively adding bads, as Hans Herman Hoppa would say. We're producing baths as opposed to goods.
Starting point is 04:43:17 Oh, I was just saying that and to speak to the piece you just read. I mean, think about that awful poem that we bolted to the side of the Statue of Liberty. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. You're tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. What does that describe? That describes cattle, you know, tired, poor, hungry, huddled, mass that describes cattle that doesn't describe people that you want here that describes at best a domesticated animal at worst just a herd of buffalo like that's not that that's not what you really
Starting point is 04:43:57 want on your and do they want to be free that's a good point do they I don't I don't think a lot of the ones they do get now do I think maybe eons ago when you had people from Europe and I would and I would argue that like the reason the I saw somebody writing on Twitter a while ago. It's like, oh, well, what's the difference between the people coming now than all like the Italians and the Irish and all that? You mean their countries weren't, you know, didn't suck back then or whatever? It's like, well, first off, we're talking about tremendously different populations biologically and culturally. But second off, you're talking about places like Spain and Portugal and Italy where a lot of these families have been in
Starting point is 04:44:41 power for literal hundreds of years, like literal centuries. And it's like, well, they don't have a lot of upward mobility. That was, that's the problem with a lot of those places at the time. It wasn't that they were necessarily dysfunctional shitholes. It's that there was no upward mobility. Where were you going to go? The Domenichies have been in power since the bubonic plague was raging. They still have power. And it's just like, well, yeah, why do you think a lot of these people came to America? It wasn't because their countries were dysfunctional shitholes. It was because, well, there's really nowhere to go up because everybody's already filled it
Starting point is 04:45:19 and has filled it for hundreds of years. Go ahead, Dee. I just want to make that point. Yeah, and before you say that, just a real quick point, Tomas de Victoria and Giovanni de Palestrina. Vittoria was Spanish and Palestrina was Italian. They're two Renaissance composers. It's almost beautiful music you'll ever hear in your life.
Starting point is 04:45:40 So the Italians, even when they were poor, you know, and ruled by this oppressive oligarchy, you know, whatever you want to say, right? They produce greatness at a level that, like, never had. You can find a little tiny town in the middle of Italy and look at, like, people from such and such, and it'll be, you know, more contributions to world culture at some little tiny town in Italy than, you know, some whole countries have made. And to pretend that, you know, these are on the same level as, again, one of those just moral syphilous lies that we're just expected to swallow because it's convenient for our ruling elite. Like, no, that's not true at all. Not true at all. Going forward, let's talk about this because we, you know, we do have an election this year. Thomas has been questioning whether it's even ever, if it's ever going to happen.
Starting point is 04:46:40 I look at this election and I see, okay, if it does happen, I mean, I don't even, I don't know how one happens in 2028. I mean, depending on who wins. I mean, I just, that could take, this could take a whole episode. This could take a series of episodes of my thoughts on this. I was talking with somebody this morning. I don't have permission to say who. Everyone here knows who they would know who they are. And I told them, I said, this is just, if, I know that it's the trope. This is the most important election of our lifetime. But guess what? I've never, ever said that in my life. Ever. Never. Because, you know, I've always been very, I don't know what's going to change. You know, you have, seems like one, both parties are the same side. But it seems like
Starting point is 04:47:37 at this time, if Kamala Harris, if the regime continues, without being challenged, that we're headed for, I mean, destruction on many levels, okay, not only financial, societal, and if Trump wins, well, hopefully the people that are surrounding him, and I know there's a lot of people surrounding him, that I would rather not be surrounding him, but I don't get to make those decisions, I just get to decide, look and say, which one is better. And I see one side as an existential threat to our existence. And I see the other side as, hey, maybe we have a shot. So, I mean, what is everybody thinking about this year? I mean, is Trump surrounded by Zionists? Absolutely. Okay. At this point, what's the other option? I mean, it's like,
Starting point is 04:48:37 Thomas says we're under occupation until the West breaks the power that they're being occupied from there are things that we're just going to have to deal with and there are things that are just going to be a given so do we have a shot if Trump wins and if Kamala wins I mean what happens well I mean I a lot of what you're saying here Pete I'd mention a podcast from Gitmo are going to be lit I mean, if Camalo wins, we're all going to nail, man. Yeah. But a lot of what you're saying, Pete, is what I'd said earlier in the program.
Starting point is 04:49:15 I said, I'm with you 100%, Pete. Yes, I know it's the trope. This is the most important election ever. But as I said earlier, I think I used these exact words. This is the one time a blind squirrel found a nut. This is that one. And as you say, again, I mentioned earlier in the program. I use that log being dropped over the tumultuous river metaphor.
Starting point is 04:49:39 I don't think he's going to save, but I do think, as you say, I'll use your words. I do think if we can get him in, then at least we have a shot. There is at least a path open to us at that point. That would be the phrase I would use. At least at that point, there is a path open to us. And again, as you say, and as I've mentioned earlier, in a much short a shorthand version of what you're saying at the beginning do i like who surrounds him no no i don't do i like a lot of the people that he seek whom he seeks counsel from no no i
Starting point is 04:50:19 do not but again like i he's the only log i have to drop over that river that's it he he's the only potential bridge i have to drop over that river so i have to take it i just have that that's it That's what I have. That's what I have to work with. And as you say, if he doesn't get it, I mean, it's done at that point. What do I mean by done? I mean, that's, as you say, Pete, I'll use your words. That could take an entire episode and then some.
Starting point is 04:50:49 I wouldn't honestly, Pete, we would have to sit down together and try and trying to an outline. Because I think we would all just be stumbling over ourselves, trying to even, we wouldn't know where to begin. It would be like the Keystone cops all trying to get through the three stooges trying to get through the same door at once. And I don't even mean us. I mean the ideas. The idea. We just wouldn't even know where to begin. Well, what's going to fail?
Starting point is 04:51:14 Society. Well, that's already on its way out. The drug problem gets worse. The smuggling gets worse. The economy gets worse. Like, where would we even begin? I honestly wouldn't even know where to start. And I'm not, I hate to sound catastrophizing.
Starting point is 04:51:26 Like, oh, no, red team loses. Blue team is the end of the world. But again, the blinds. squirled found a nut. Like the blue team has been winning for a while now and nothing has gotten better. Objectively, nothing has gotten better. Well, at least for honest people, I think criminals can say things have gotten a lot better. They're not getting prosecuted. But for honest people, I don't think there's anything by any metric. Am I wrong that this is an existential crisis if the regime in charge stays with the course with this woman who is just,
Starting point is 04:52:01 is going to be even more of a puppet than even, you know, weekend that Bernie's Biden has been. Never forget, Kamala Harris is literally married to a Jew. I mean, what? I don't like Donald Trump. I'm probably not going to go to where I live. It doesn't matter. But for all those people who are like, oh,
Starting point is 04:52:21 Harris will be better because Harris is a resentful, non-white person who hates you and will use every power of the federal government that she has, and some she'll invent to hunt us down and put us in jail. 100%. I'm not joking about the podcast from Cell Block E
Starting point is 04:52:41 being pretty based, because that's the choices. What's happening in England right now will absolutely happen to America under a Harris administration. She's a dumb prostitute. If I know, and I'm a provincial hick who's never
Starting point is 04:52:57 really left my provincial hick town, if I know she's a prostitute, the Israelis know and have photos MI6 knows and has photos the Mossad knows the Chinese know the Russians know you think that you think the FSB doesn't have
Starting point is 04:53:12 compromising pictures of Kamala Harris pull the other one it sings it sings Dixie I mean come on D to your point I would argue that like they don't even need compromising pictures I'm just going to use your exact words
Starting point is 04:53:29 she's a prostitute it doesn't she doesn't care what pictures there are they're not even necessary just keep putting money in her pockets she'll i mean i forget me for being crass but she's already literally sucked dick to get power like you know that d you've you've talked about this on this very program before she's literally sucked dick to get power like what what i mean there's nothing necessary to compromise her the the the check will be enough there is no morality there there are no ethics there there are no higher principles there there's nothing you don't need the blackmailer i mean you're you're probably right let me be abundantly cleared
Starting point is 04:54:12 you're probably right that there probably are those photos but i'm saying i don't i don't think they're even remotely necessary it's wheels on a tomato it you don't they're not even necessary she literally sucked thick for power what what what more do you need like that's it that's it Jose, you got anything? Yes. I think that this election will probably be one of the last elections where you will see any of like the formal trappings of liberalism. Because I think that from here on out, you're going to see all these. members of the ruling class just
Starting point is 04:55:02 go fully mask off with blatant forms of tyranny against people on the right. I just think that the present order is incredibly unsustainable. They can't use the tools
Starting point is 04:55:19 of yesteryear to quell the scent. They're just going to have to start using like really ham-fisted forms of hard power. And I would I would also add, like, on that point you guys raised from Brandon Hayward that, I just think that we're going to see this just total degradation of the U.S. turning into this weird tower of babble, like idioticratic state that it's just not going to be able to keep the lights on, to be honest. And I'm not the most enthusiastic Trump guy like I was in 2016, but it at least gives us some breathing room, like, tactically for voting for him in 2024.
Starting point is 04:56:09 But at this point, though, I've become more focused on, like, what for life, like, in, like, post-America, if you will, how we organize there. that's going to be one of like the bigger debates in my opinion because i'm more um thinking in like in a reconquistimo that we're going to be engaged in a very like protracted struggle in the long term and it will consist of us having to retake territory at like the local level and build from there but um i um i'm not really that fixated on like whether people vote for Trump or not like some others or like some of the purity spiraling or whatever because I'm just focused on like a lot of other things like exposing
Starting point is 04:57:06 interracial crime and really organize jury and also trying to organize at the local level. But I do agree that for those that are interested in preserving some semblance of like civilization um in the west like it it makes sense especially if you're like living like in a competitive state like in the midwest like if you're in pennsylvania or whatever that like trump is like your last like lifeline to be honest um and your vote actually will count there whereas in other states it might not be the case yeah no i get that too i what i've been saying is that whichever side wins, you're going to want to concentrate locally and fortify
Starting point is 04:58:02 some kind of locality, because if the regime side wins, that's obvious. If the other side wins, and they are able to actually do anything, the plans that I've heard would be to drastically cut government and if they were to do that I mean, I know that I'm in fantasy land here right now, that would be, you'd be
Starting point is 04:58:28 rolling back to local government as well. So the idea that we don't concentrate on some kind of reconquista from our local area at this point,
Starting point is 04:58:44 I think no matter who wins, no matter who wins. And to just bring up something we were saying earlier, something I said on my substack this week is, we've been brainwashed and our minds are really diseased. And I said on my substack that we could get rid of whatever your trouble group is. If you have multiple trouble groups, you could deport all of them
Starting point is 04:59:16 and be back to Heritage America and you're still going to have to deal with the fact that you've had a lifetime of this brainwashing that it may take a couple generations to rid yourself of because it, I mean, from sports, playing sports growing up and everything, It was like 90% of the game is between your ears.
Starting point is 04:59:45 It's all between your ears. And between most people's ears, if you're not, if someone's not willing to step up and tell people what to do, because at this point, 95% even more need to just be told what to do, then you're, we're still, you can get rid of all these people and you still haven't dealt with the root, the root problem that, yeah, here's something that. I said this week. I said that propaganda from the right, I was listening to Cryptos on Jay Burden's podcast, and he was talking about how propaganda from the right doesn't work. And I was, and I'm like, okay, let me think about that. And I thought about it. When the right uses propaganda, sometimes they can get the right to agree with them, and they may get a couple leftists. When the left uses propaganda, it affects everyone. You know, that whole whole. You know, that whole thing about conservatism, being progressivism, driving the speed limit, 10 years down.
Starting point is 05:00:47 The left throws propaganda out there, and everyone eats it up. I'm going to quote something that you sent to the group, Pete. We make a great mistake in supposing that all people are capable of self-government. John C. Calhoun, America's one genuine political thinker. Show me the only political thinker. show me a population other than
Starting point is 05:01:13 white men who have the capacity for self-government. We've been running a continuous experiment in this country for 100 years about women voting
Starting point is 05:01:23 and for 60 about non-whites voting. Show me where it's worked. You can't. You can't. They're not capable
Starting point is 05:01:34 with self-government. Getting mad at women to who not being capable of self-government is like getting mad at the dog when it pees on the carpet. That's just what they do. They're not capable of it. This idea that everyone is equally capable of self-government is just not true. Right.
Starting point is 05:01:54 And in our whole project, the whole, I was thinking about this as we're approaching recording recording. Right. The whole project of everything we do here and I'd recommend everyone give it listen to Exit Group, how to fight the West, that did a recent show, right? And he talks about how politics actually works in that and how all these disparate actors beat the United States. Because right-wingeres in America,
Starting point is 05:02:20 mostly white people, have all this bad programming that Pete mentioned, they don't understand how things actually work. And my whole project, coming on 15 years I've been doing this, is just to stop line. about a couple of things in particular, but if you just aren't
Starting point is 05:02:41 honest about the nature of race, the JQ, men and women, whatever, it's like trying to do physics without Newton's laws of motion. You're just going to be wrong. And if people don't understand that, if they don't, if the average
Starting point is 05:02:58 right way are consistently, well, what about what Martin Luther King said? No one cares, man. the great Gregory Hood said this and I think he's 100% correct but black people want two things when it comes to politics. They want access to the public fist
Starting point is 05:03:14 and they want crime to be legal which is both just saying they want your stuff. That's the only thing black people want politically. That's it. Sometimes they want it be illegal means. Sometimes they want it by illegal means. But they just want your stuff.
Starting point is 05:03:28 They have no political program. They have no goals. They have no like wants. They just want your stuff. Well, I would, I would argue how is that any different? They want access to your women. I would argue how is that any different? Yeah. Women at least are women are, yeah, women are really supposed to give you something in return. That's the right. Not to cut you off. I'm sorry. But I just wanted to make the point that I would argue
Starting point is 05:03:52 that that's the same thing, that women basically want the same thing, access to your stuff. That's it. I would argue they only have one, they only have one desire politically. Access to your stuff. And I would say to your point, Pete, I think there's a black pill in what you're saying, because as you say, it's a tremendously large issue that we're facing. You have to go through generations of people to get the mindset back where it needs to be. But I would also say that it's, for me, personally, I look at that as more of a white pill. Like that's, that's really not. Yes, there's a lot of people that you need to do that with, but we've already, learned, COVID. I know we've talked about this. You have personally talked about this, Pete,
Starting point is 05:04:39 that that COVID showed you just how much people just go in lockstep and do what they're told and how both of us were shocked at all people we knew throughout our lives just fell right into whatever people told them to do. So to me, I look at it as a white pill. It's like, really, our biggest problem after we get rid of a lot of these populations, exiled them, is we have to change mindset. Okay, great. Like that's not that big a deal. I watched people demand a vaccine card just to go to McDonald's because somebody told them to. Okay, so we'll just tell them to do what we want them to do. So maybe I'm being a bit flippant there, but I do think I do look at it as a white pill largely.
Starting point is 05:05:21 Like that's not really, to me, that's not really a big deal. And I do have a question for you. And it's a very sincere question because I wasn't there. I didn't hear it in the context. What did the individual mean when he said right-wing propaganda doesn't work. What was he referring to specifically as right-wing propaganda? I have a sincere question. Well, no, when you're when you're crafting propaganda, when you're when you're putting a narrative out there, he's basically saying how governments just go leftward. So basically the only kind of
Starting point is 05:05:55 propaganda that really works on the masses as government goes leftward is left-wing propaganda. right-wing propagandas just looked upon as, well, that doesn't have anything, that's not what our zeitgeist is. That's not what's, this is just foreign to me. So if, you know, so we do have some good right-wing propagandists out there, but how many of them are bringing people over from the left? Okay. No, they're mostly bringing people over from the right. but the left-wing propaganda that goes out there, regime propaganda, that hits all of us. We all still, I mean, we're sitting here, and there are still things inside ourselves.
Starting point is 05:06:41 There are still impulses inside ourselves that we fight because we've been so propagandized. It's like, yeah, well, that should be, and then we're going to change our mind on it sometime down the line to be like, shit, I can't believe. I'm a fucking moron forever believing that. And usually stuff like that is stuff that was just everything is. propaganda. I mean, everything that comes, if it has, if it's in the public, it's propaganda. And we have to remember that. Everything we see is propaganda. And we believe it. You know, we, I'm not saying that, you know, the Trump assassination was faked. But I mean, what were we sold? We were sold a certain story. Most people are going to believe that story no matter what.
Starting point is 05:07:28 And if they do say, well, there's something fishy about it. They're not going to dive real deep into what might be fishy about it or what the motives behind it are. And, I mean, that's mostly coming from the regime. It's mostly coming from, you know, the first reports that came out that was, oh, Trump tripped and Nick DeZere, stuff like that. Yeah. Right-wing propaganda really doesn't work. I mean, when you go back and you look at, like, um, propaganda. from the 1930s in that country we're not supposed to talk about it wasn't hard right-wing
Starting point is 05:08:05 propaganda it was kind of propaganda of the this group over here kind of stuff and that's normally left-wing propaganda this group over here is doing something to you and you need and I mean there's a very the reason I think it was very successful was because it wasn't like standing up with this classic right-wing kind of message of, you know, hierarchy, this and that. No, these people are trying to take advantage of us. This group over here is trying to take advantage of us. These people are taking advantage of us. And what is that? A lot of people will say, that just sounds like leftism. Those people are just engaging in capitalism. So why are you, if they're just engaging in capitalism,
Starting point is 05:08:58 him, what are you a socialist? Well, maybe of a sort. That's what I'm trying to, that's what I'm trying to explain. Understood. Thank you. I was just curious as to what that meant. That makes sense. And to the extent that we have anything that works, what works on our side of things?
Starting point is 05:09:21 There's two things that work. Aesthetics and memes. Because they're not arguments. Right. Thank you, Dee. Yeah, the right wants to make an argument. The right wants to show you, the right wants to show you how smart they are. That's what they want to do. They're like, oh, that's what Con Inc is, right?
Starting point is 05:09:40 Oh, if we just get, how can, look at the economic policy we have here. It's laid out perfectly. Read this. How can anybody deny this? Yeah, how can anybody deny it? But no, when you do it, when you, read this 50 page, sorry, read this 50 page white paper was great. I'm sorry. I just love that. Like, yeah, that's going to work, bro.
Starting point is 05:10:01 And I think I just would have jumped in on something you're saying. Just give every immigrant that. Yeah, right? Give them the pamphlet on not to rape. That'll help. But yeah, like, I think you raise a good point because where our strengths lie, and this is what I wanted to raise. This is why before I wanted to say anything,
Starting point is 05:10:18 I wanted thank you, Pete, for that. Because I wanted to, that's why, before I said anything, I wanted to make sure of what point was being made so that I didn't mistake. mistake anybody and that was the propaganda issue and i think d you stepped on you touched on exactly what i wanted to say which is i think the right wing strengths are aesthetics like i mean you're they're still talking about nazi imagery almost almost a hundred years later 80 some years later they're still talking about hell they're still talking about roman aesthetics
Starting point is 05:10:51 i mean people don't realize there was architectural 2500 years later yes I mean they're still talking about Roman aesthetics like you can't like that's why when I heard the thing right wing propaganda doesn't work I was like hold on a second am I having a stroke like there are still people talking about the Roman
Starting point is 05:11:09 empire and the Nazi Germany and the and the Spanish not so much the Spanish fascist but when they brought up or the Italian in the Spanish but they still win it's like now I see a terrible soul is a banger dude yeah right but I'm not arguing but now I see that the
Starting point is 05:11:25 subtle differentiation we're making. But I think right-wing aesthetics are our biggest strength, like you say. And I think really the reason memes work is because true right-wing propaganda is wordless. You don't have to convince anybody of anything. They really know it already. To me, like right-wing propaganda is fairy tales and Grimm's fairy tales. Now, maybe this is the tabletop role player in me coming out, but as you say, Dee, I like your line. It's one of the greatest America, one of the three greatest contributions of the United States to world culture. To me, fairy tales are the best right-wing propaganda ever. You know, here's what little girls should do. Here's what little boys should do. Here's what parents should do. Here's how you
Starting point is 05:12:09 should behave. Like to me, that's the best right-wing propaganda ever. And to me, it's the most effective. Yeah, listen to your mother. You can get in the woods. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Like, and step parents are very dangerous. You know what I mean? Be careful who you led into your house. You know, you really want to just have your biological mom, your biological dad. Again, like, go back and read these. I would humbly suggest people go back and read these. To me, the best right-wing propaganda is all fairy tales because it's speaking to a human condition. And ironically, I would say they're more true than facts because facts are just a series of things
Starting point is 05:12:47 that are easily, you know, easily mentioned, easily put out there and anybody can twist. But these things are nuanced. These things speak to the soul, the core of human existence, or at least Western European existence. So that's my take on that, gentlemen. I'll wrap up here with, I've got to get going, but I just want to put a call back to Pete's excellent series on reading The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll. There's an incident in that book that brings good tears every time I talk about it, so I'm going to have to struggle through this. During the siege of the Alcazar, the colonel in charge, at the very beginning of the siege
Starting point is 05:13:25 and the communists have his son and they get on the phone and they tell him, Colonel, we have your son. We're going to kill him if you don't surrender. And the Alcazar is the... Alcazar of Toledo is the traditional fort that oversaw Toledo. And the colonel in charge says,
Starting point is 05:13:45 may I speak to my son? And they say, sure, you put him on the phone. He says, my son, I love you, commit your soul to God die like a Spaniard Viva Crystal Ray I think I can't remember the exact
Starting point is 05:13:59 but that's basically he knows his son is going to die and the son knows that his father knows that he's going to die and the son says I will father give my love to brother
Starting point is 05:14:10 and then they kill him that's not an argument that's just that's just truth that's just honor that's just glory that's just beauty
Starting point is 05:14:21 and sacrifice and everything good in the world wrapped up in one small little story. And I don't need to make arguments against people who beat up old ladies or rape little girls or stab little girls with knives or deal drugs or sexually perverse or any. I don't need to make arguments with those people.
Starting point is 05:14:42 I'm not interested in arguing with those people about anything any longer. I want a good, decent society for people to live in where old people are safe and where children can grow up to be good people and if you're against that I'm against you and I'm not interested in arguing anymore there's nothing to argue about
Starting point is 05:15:04 you know we live in an oligarchy that is now pretty nakedly out there the president's not in charge and they try to kill people all the time they're doing you know uh Pete was on on Mike Ferris
Starting point is 05:15:23 Mike Ferris just had an episode like you know the U.S. government does sex traffic the U.S. government deals drugs. I'm not interested in arguing with these people about anything. I want the bad things to stop and I want the good things to happen. And there's nothing to argue with the communists about. There's nothing to argue with blacks about. There's nothing to argue with Chinese people about.
Starting point is 05:15:44 You just got to go. This is my civilization, built by a white Christian people. And if you're not a white Christian person, then this isn't for you. Fuck off. We're full. Yeah. Beautiful, Dee. Beautiful.
Starting point is 05:16:02 If you have to get out of here, yeah. Thank you. Anybody else have anything? You know, we can wrap up here. It's kind of hard to top that story when it comes to, the kind of existential crisis we're looking at and how yeah the hard decisions are going to have to be made and you know the fight going ahead is um is not one that's going to be easy and we really don't know what's left for us in the future so um if you gentlemen want to
Starting point is 05:16:46 want to finish with anything go right ahead i only want to say one thing to d's point and that's it i think he said everything beautifully and there's not much more i can add to it but i just say i'll just say this arguments and debates are for the men on this panel and the listeners to this program to have amongst ourselves everybody else gets war and nothing less thank you for having me pete of course charles was that i wanted to go back to a point that charles raised and i think that it's emblematic of like a theme of this show that the assimilate versus conquered dichotomy because i i think that whenever we when somebody uses the word assimilate that is the telltale sign that this person
Starting point is 05:17:46 has had their mind zonked by liberalism, ultimately. Conquer represents, in my opinion, a mindset of real politic, of politics, of like, of a primordial style of politics that we have to, like, start embracing. Because when we start thinking in a liberal, with liberal priors, we just end up becoming politically retarded, lack of a better word because of the simple fact that we um just imbibing the the noxious substance of liberalism will just consign us to the dustbin of political irrelevance and eventual like vanquishment honestly and that's why i believe that it's very important that we have to go back
Starting point is 05:18:39 to our primordial roots and start seeing politics as it is and not um get ourselves entranced by the false god of liberalism. But yeah. Yeah, we need to start seeing the world as it is and work on changing what is and just looking at the world and going, well, it ought to be like this without having a genuine way to get there.
Starting point is 05:19:13 You're just, it's just theory cell masturbation. It's just theory, cell masturbation at this point. So anyway, I'm going to, I'm going to end it. I thank both of you gentlemen for joining me. Thank, thank Dee for showing up. And, yeah, until the next time, just want to thank everybody for listening. Take care, guys. See you.
Starting point is 05:19:38 God bless. You have had this conversation many, many times. So just everyone knows we're recording, because, you know, why not? Yeah, hey, short. Oh, yeah. Well, like, nothing ever happens, right, bros? Yeah, nothing ever, yeah. Like a second assassination attempt, you know,
Starting point is 05:19:58 catastrophic flooding across, what, five states? Yep. Did you see the thing I shared with you, Dee? My buddy, Chris, who, um. Did you see the thing I shared with you, D, about the welding? Yeah, yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah. Normal days in Clown World USA.
Starting point is 05:20:17 Yeah. Normally Alabama gets, southern Alabama gets a lot of this when a storm comes through. But it doesn't seem like we, I mean, I'm not in southern Alabama, but I'm in central. I'm closer to the, closer to the south than north. But a buddy of mine who, he lives up in East Tennessee. I mean, he lives like, he's so East Tennessee, he lives north of Asheville, North Carolina. Um, yeah, like, there's a dam out in his town. Bridges are down. Um, yeah, several people without power. He just moved there. He just bought a property that's like up on a hill. So he's been perfectly fine. He still has power and everything. But, um, yeah, this is really, really fucking bad. And obviously, you know, because white people aren't in charge anymore, not going to be able to do anything about this. Yep. But there's, I mean, this is kind of the news of the moment, but this was inevitable.
Starting point is 05:21:16 Yeah. If it hadn't been this year, it'd be next. You know? Yeah. Pittsburgh News is blacker than a tar pit. So of course, like, what did you think was going to happen when you put a major shipping, you know, shipbuilding facility there and then mandated, you know, local hire and diversity and got rid of all the dudes that didn't want to take the jab?
Starting point is 05:21:39 What does that know? What is that noise? It's driving me crazy. right there what is that no idea who's that coming from stop it it's gonna make me insane
Starting point is 05:21:51 oh okay well i can't hear anything okay yeah it's fine go ahead good good it shit it could be me I'm retarded so no it's um yeah I'm just watching all this you you watch this then you you see um
Starting point is 05:22:11 uh Benjamin. I can't remember what his name is. I don't think it's Ben Braddock. I think it's over at IM 1776 just released a, did an article. I guess he went up to Springfield. And it's exactly everything that you would think it is. It's the local. It's incompetence. It's locals getting rich. It's punish the white people. Punish the poor people. Evict. Evict someone. who's paying $800 a month rent and move in a Haitian who somehow can pay $1,800 a month rent or $2,000 a month rent into apartments owned by the mayor, Rob Brew.
Starting point is 05:22:55 Jeez. Yeah, we're just, it's over, man. It's, you know, sorry, guys. A mutual of mine put it very well, very succinctly on on Twitter this week.
Starting point is 05:23:12 He said, All of our solutions are fed posts. Yeah, yeah, that was correct. Yeah, he's saying what I said in January. He's going to come down and said that same thing for a year later. Yeah, and exactly. I said that before written house. I mean, your friend put it very succinctly, and I like the way he put it.
Starting point is 05:23:30 I don't, I'm not diminishing that. But that's what I have pinned on my Twitter for since what? January 4th of 2024. There is no peaceful solution. Yeah. I've had that pin for like 10, 11 months now. Yeah, 10 months. Like, there is no peaceful, peaceful solution.
Starting point is 05:23:49 And the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloody or the inevitable will be. Like, this is it. This is, this is Hartis. For those of you that remember him, this is Hartis's motto writ large in blood on the wall. Diversity plus proximity equals war. For crying out loud, Detroit is going to rip itself into pieces because the black gangs and the Mastizo gangs are going to start. going at it and that's just going to go to philly that's just going to go to Atlanta yeah it's going to go everywhere Chicago you have you have
Starting point is 05:24:20 Chicago well basically what's happened in the last two six months or so is that is that black americans have realized we can only afford one low IQ non working underclass at a time and they're being replaced yes and they're they're good i mean they're going to get violent about well yeah that kid uh you know who got from university Chicago who said, you know, like, hey, look, dumb black people are killing some of the brightest people on earth who go to the University of Chicago and robbing them. And it happens every year, and we need to talk about it, right? Peter Schmidt, I, you know, I'm not
Starting point is 05:24:54 entirely sure he's, you know, I'm a little leery of his association with Mason Coughness, but that doesn't mean that in this particular instance, he's incorrect. And the fact of the matter is, right, like, like a Navy that doesn't have skilled machinists is not a maybe it's a bunch of scrap metal at the bottom of the ocean bingo the target for hypersonic missiles sitting duck yeah yeah you know and if you can't have a population that's capable of being you know pardon but but you know autistic about like every single weld you're talking about freaking submarines man yeah every single one of these welds has to be buff yeah and not not to not to belittle your point Jose but not to belittle your point Jose but when you were saying
Starting point is 05:25:46 it's target practice for hypersonic missiles I we I think we'd be lucky for it to even be that these things aren't even going to get it in out to see like they're just going to sink like good point I mean I mean again not to diminish your point you're correct that they're not going to service but this is this is actually to agree and amplify your point it's like they're not even going to go anywhere. They're just going to sink and somebody's going to make a crap ton of money off the contract. And that's about it. And then here's the worst part of it.
Starting point is 05:26:17 They're going to find a way to create another little shell company and get paid to do it all over again. Like that's the scam. You don't have to deliver because there's no punishment. And honestly, that's another thing we need to bring back. I'm all about prison abolition. Yeah, let's get rid of it. It's either beatings, hangings, or incredible. Yes, I've got it too.
Starting point is 05:26:37 Yeah. Like, that's it. Like, that's it. Yeah. Get rid of prisons and you get rid of prisons and you, but we, we need to open asylums again. Yes. I've come to the conclusion this week that we need to, we need public asylums again.
Starting point is 05:26:52 Right. Absolutely. Well, one of the. Landshare had a great tweet, you know, that there's basically no downside to just like executing violent felons. Like, and then the more you do it, the better things get until basically things are in paradise, except the all. the wrong people are like upset
Starting point is 05:27:09 by this. Right. I just did a show with the guys over in the midst of the 20th century like half an hour ago we closed up talking about this so 2015 book Prisoners of Geography
Starting point is 05:27:22 right? And basically the United States hit the jackpot. There's more navigable water like in the United States than the rest of the world put together between the Mississippi and at the Great Lakes, right?
Starting point is 05:27:39 We're talking about tens of thousands of miles of, like, easily transverse, cheap transportation. And we've had it so easy here for so long that we've just indulged in stupid ideas and stupid people. Right. Like, half the Kamala voters don't even, like, they don't belong in public. They belong in insane asylums. Literally the only thing that would make these women better is to take away their SSRIs and force them to have seven children. yes unironically this is not this is not something that can be fixed this is not something that can be like oh well we like Donald Trump and things get better like no these
Starting point is 05:28:20 people are a permanent problem until they're dealt with and yeah like like because the politics are all the problems that can be fixed yeah because the politics are just extension of of the dysfunction like it's not I mean in a way it's become a vicious circle, right? In a way, it's become a vicious circle. The dysfunctional people created a dysfunctional system, and then the dysfunctional system creates a dysfunctional people. And what we have to do is we have to break the cycle. Like you said, a lot of these people, a lot of these women just need to have their SSRIs taken off of them. And they need to just, they just need to have kids. They just need a grounding force. They need, it's like, think of it
Starting point is 05:29:05 Like if you own a pickup truck, right? For those of you who don't have a pickup truck, what you have to do is you have to throw weight in the back during certain weather conditions, snow, slick roads, stuff like that. And it allows it to drive more safely because that added weight keeps the tires on the road and keeps things moving forward, right? And that's, it's like women are the same way. They need a job. They're like a dog.
Starting point is 05:29:28 If you don't, if you don't train a dog, if you don't keep it disciplined, it's going to run around and it's going to tear everything apart. look at people that don't have a firm hand with a dog look at how awful they are the jump on you they shit all over the place they piss all over the place they tear everything up it's the same thing people people everybody needs a job everybody needs a goal everybody needs a purpose now how that manifests and what those purposes are well obviously they're going to vary but if we're painting with broad strokes men need x and women need y and that's just how it is and now we've burdened one sex utterly and completely and entirely with everything under the sun plus plus more and then the
Starting point is 05:30:10 other we've just completely unshackled and completely unburdened only to find out that that was equally terrible both are a terrible idea worst yes no no like this is a civilization ending yes like this is civilization will not survive because these people want a girl boss and like do the gritty over like, lo, we made Vladimir for Putin look stupid. Well, we made Xi Jinping look stupid. Look at us. We're so great.
Starting point is 05:30:42 Like, do you realize you insane bitches are about to, like, start a global thermonuclear war because you can't read a map? Right. Liz Truss before she was, when she was Foreign Secretary of, of England, before she was briefly prime minister, like went to the Russian foreign foreign minister. I can't remember who it was at the time. And he said to her, like, Rostov-on-Don is not, you know, like, will you let, will you, you know, is this in dispute and let us, you know, or are you going to take that?
Starting point is 05:31:15 And she said, no, of course not. We're going to kick that back. And he's like, Rostov has been resting for 400 years. It's never been part of Ukraine. Like, this is, this lady can't read a map. Right? Like, this is, do you understand that the entire freaking conflict in Ukraine is over? the fact that the Volga goes into the Caspian Sea, which is landlocked, and the Russians
Starting point is 05:31:39 absolutely have to have, have to have an outlet to the Black Sea and freedom of navigation of the Dardanelles. Otherwise, they're dead economically. Well, and when it comes down to it, Ukraine doesn't need any of that because Ukraine's not a real country. They're not a real, they could be a real people, but they're not a real. They're not a real people, but they're not a real government, okay? Right, yeah, but when someone else is paying for your pensions and paying for your wages and paying, like, you can't collect taxes and, yeah, like, this is not
Starting point is 05:32:13 and your arm has been armed by someone else. And, like, this is just, literally just a, a, the entire government of Ukraine is a puppet because the new ones and the blinkets are still salty about a program from 350 years ago. Yeah. Ukraine is, you know, it's like, it's like Lutwak talks about.
Starting point is 05:32:37 You have a country that cannot, they can't manufacture their own anything, basically. Well, what are they? Now they're enslaved to whoever can do that. And that's exactly what they are to the United States. And people don't realize that because people just, they don't read, they don't have, they don't use logic.
Starting point is 05:32:57 I mean, if you can't, if you can't manufacture your own jet fighters, You have to get them from the United States or you have to get them from England. And then they have you by the balls. Right. We talked about this. Sweden made the Gripen. The U.K. makes the Harrier and a few other jets.
Starting point is 05:33:17 France has its own capability of making jets. The U.S. does. Canada used to have one. China has it. Russia has it. Maybe South Africa. I forget if they still have an indigenous aircraft industry. you can't do it you can't wage war without airplanes okay and every dollar you spend on
Starting point is 05:33:46 airplanes is a dollar that's not going to things like I don't know roads and bridges and dams and we used to have enough money to be able to do both guns and butter that was our big secret after the second world war but when we closed the gold window in 73 after the great society and Vietnam, you know, we were kind of running out of money. And we've kind of been running the printing press ever since. And people kind of pretended because we had the biggest army and everything else that we could do both at the same time. Well, it turns out, actually, you can't import tens of millions of people with sub 100 IQs and provide them subsidized food and housing and health care and everything else and still run a first. world country and pick fights with the Chinese and the Russians and the Iranians all at the same time. You might be able to do one of those things. But, you know, if you really, really want to have a first world country, you have to have a first world population. So every white person in Venezuela is in Houston, basically, we can keep them. Everyone else has to go home.
Starting point is 05:35:02 The, you know, one of the things when you look at is, like, I've been saying this about, like, immigration, like, especially these Haitians. There are a lot of aspects to this. One is punishment is here. We're going to drop, like, the most violent people in the Western Hemisphere. I mean, basically people who live like animals right into the middle of your, right into the middle of your community, just because. just because we hate you. Then there are the people who are making money from this. The NGOs, the NGOs are funding this. What do they get out of this? They get money from the government, which is money from us. And then what happens?
Starting point is 05:35:47 These people get sent into a place like Springfield. And there's this whole system of graft that has been set up by locals who, you know where they live. I mean, you know, it's the old Sam, I'm not going to repeat the Sam Hideline, but it's the Sam hide line. You know, and then you have, you know, like Benjamin, Benjamin Roberts from IM 1776. He went up to Springfield, and he said this. He goes, Springfield Mayor Rob Rue claims to be helpless about federal directives. He claims he's done his best.
Starting point is 05:36:24 Talk to those who must be talked to and heard the speakers at City Hall. In truth, his hands are less clean, as well as serving as to mayor or Springfield. Rob Rue is the owner of Littleton properties of Springfield LLC, which owns six rental properties in Springfield. Going door to door, I confirm that at least four of these properties are rented to Haitian migrants. These tenants are not nuclear families, but multi-generational households, including anywhere from 10 to 15 people, crammed into one half of a duplex. It's not clear who's paying the rent. He's supposedly concerned about the government sending migrants and overwhelming his constituent services, but he's also making profit from it. The way
Starting point is 05:37:02 website, when you search the website, you can see his properties, his tenants don't speak English. When I interviewed him, I needed a translator. He said, at one point in my door-to-door investigation, a white man in a car began following me and honking incessantly in an attempt to drown out my recordings. As I ended my inquiries at Mayor Rue's funeral home business, he threw a, I mean, he has a funeral home too. The fucking, I mean, another person just died the other day from a fucking car accident from one of these fucking savages. He said, they threw a large metal object and yelled, the guy in the car threw a large metal object and yelled at me to come over.
Starting point is 05:37:42 I kept walking. Was this a member of Rue's security detail sent to discourage investigations? I mean, this is, it's, how do you fucking win? How do you, how do you do anything if the people who were, quote, quote like at the top the chief executive of a town is benefiting from this and is basically saying fuck all of you i mean what do you do like it's like i said all of our fucking all of our solutions are fed posts right yeah because what how else do you do this i mean you can hope that trump comes in and just and says okay people just got to you know do what they do
Starting point is 05:38:26 puts together some kind of task force to send them into towns like this, arrest these people, put them on trial, get rid of all these fucking people and send them back to their godforsaken hellhole of an island.
Starting point is 05:38:39 But I mean, who wants to make a bet that that's going to happen? Well, none of these, not going to happen, but I've talked about this on on the two-bit podcast,
Starting point is 05:38:51 and I'll talk, I'll briefly touch on it again here. Like, this is why they've spent a century now, a century and a half, vilifying lynching. And they've made it all about, oh, it's just about abusing black people and the oppressed. It's like, no, no, it's not. Linching is when your government complete either doesn't exist or is effectively not existing. And then you realize your community is going to have to deal with the problem. And that's what it's for. And then And that's the reason they vilified it, because if we understood what lynching is,
Starting point is 05:39:27 if we understood how it's supposed to be used and how it's been used historically, we would bring it right back today because we understand that there is, as your friend put it very succinctly, every solution is a Fed Post. And as I put it more poetically, the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And what we need, that's why they vilified it because they know that's the only solution. nobody is going to be able to come and fix the system because they all control and they spent time vilifying and criminalizing external means to fix the system external regulations because they don't want to give you the option they don't want to let you know and the only way is to risk it all like you said is to fed post that's all you've got left at this point what argument is anybody going to listen to there is none nobody's going to listen to any argument all the are already.
Starting point is 05:40:23 Not only is that that the... Go ahead, Dee. So, right, like, you went through this with COVID, right? Like, the only people who weren't completely insane about COVID were people who had alternative sources of information and were willing to listen to them. You know, I'm going to publicly thank Charles. Charles saved my life by giving me the information ahead of time. Like, no, dude, you do not want to take this.
Starting point is 05:40:50 I was pretty skeptical, but Charles was like... And let's not forget. And I'm sorry to interrupt you, but let's not forget, there are a bunch of people, quote, unquote, on our side that did nothing to counter signal COVID because they didn't want to be seen as counter signaling Trump or they didn't want to seem to be boomery. And I'm wondering how many of these people took the jab. Pete, I just want to jump in very briefly. Just want to jump in. First off, Dee, thank you very, very much for that credit. I really appreciate it because you know how much work and how many countless. hours I put into that. And Pete, I want to take your point and run with it too. You are so correct. I could hug you right now. I was, now I'm not saying I was the only person on Twitter to do it because that would be disingenuous. That would be a lie. But I was the only, I was the first person that I knew of out of all my followers that was deep diving into it, that was talking about it, that was addressing it from the word go. I still have, I think it was in March of 2020.
Starting point is 05:41:52 You check my Twitter. You can fact check me if you want, where I started laying out exactly what the plan was. And the phrase that I used was solidification of corporatocracy. And then eventually, I want to say six to ten months later, again, you can fact check me. There's a Philadelphia, a Pennsylvania judge that almost used my argument verbatim in his ruling about how a lot of these things were unconstitutional and illegal. But my point isn't to talk about my constitution. The point is, to say why I'm so grateful to both of you gentlemen, D and you, Pete, are because Pete, I was so lonely. I can't even begin to tell you how I was getting attacked from our own guys. Our own guys were trolling me and golden hammering me with the, I won't name names, but were golden hammering me with their followers. Like, oh, this guy's an idiot.
Starting point is 05:42:43 We know the names. We know that. We know the names. Yeah. And it's just like, I was getting gold. And again, I'm not saying I'm literally, the first person to have shouted out from the rooftops about it. But D will back me up. I was among the first, and I was certainly the first in my very small. I didn't have that many followers at that point. But I was, I still really don't, but I'm grateful for who I do it. But the point I'm saying is I was, I was a lone voice in the wilderness for a very, very long time. And you're 100% right, Pete. I will never forget that until they put me cold in the ground. Never forget that. Jose, you want to jump in here?
Starting point is 05:43:31 Yeah, I'd like to go off on the point about lynchings and extra political violence. Because let's face it, if you look at human history, like 95% of it, especially up until like the mid-20th century, that's the way of, of a lot of these disputes were adjudicated. And the reason they're demonizing a lot of the extra political means is that they want us to continue to be under this managed system of racial replacement, where they make the population consume all manner of Soma, whether it's porn, outrage, politics, and a whole other distractions, while the elite continue to bring in more and more. more non-white foreigners while also waging wars on behalf of the Talmudic serpent in Israel. So which accelerates this process. They want us to go out with a whimper. They don't want this to get heated.
Starting point is 05:44:36 And that's why they continue to demonize this. And they continue to demonize any form of like muscular type of protest against the present order. Like say, for example, what happened in Southport. Because that's really what's going to get their attention is when people start getting loud when they start kind of breaking decorum because they want us pacified. They want us to submit to this order and just disappear into the ether without even mounting any form of resistance. Manors, right, there's in a civilized society, you know, 90% of everything just is not on
Starting point is 05:45:17 the law books. Like if you have to write it down, it's probably too late. and what they've done is make it so that you can't object to objectionable behavior in public because that's racist like I shouldn't even have to write this down if you're you know doing what Jose described you should be shamed by everyone yeah and to bring Jose's point like the I truly and I sincerely again I mentioned this on the two-bit two-bit podcast with jason i i to your your point hose like the real reason they they shut that stuff down and i'm going to i'm not going to back pedal i'm going to stand on it
Starting point is 05:46:01 and i'm not only that i'm going to i'm going to press the pedal even farther the floor the real reason they do it is you want things to change you want things to change watch how fast things change when four guys with t-ball bats not even baseball bats t-ball bats show up to a city outside of a city council meeting late one night, and they whoop the shit out of somebody for voting a certain way. I'm not saying kill anybody. I'm not, I'm not even saying maim anybody. When somebody goes home with a few cracked ribs and maybe a busted leg or a busted arm, maybe, you know, and they say, you're going to straighten up and you're
Starting point is 05:46:42 going to fly right, you watch how fast things turn around. Because as Dee will tell you, as a married man with children, especially daughters, not to docks anybody, but daughter or two in the mix. He's going to tell you, our feminine society only learns when it touches the hot stone. Am I right, D? That's when they learn.
Starting point is 05:47:02 And these people, when they get an ass, well, they're going to learn real quick. Well, either that happens or you're seeing right now, right? Like, outside in 2020 in Philadelphia, there were people, you know, there were armed black
Starting point is 05:47:20 Panthers, you know, with with sticks outside voting precincts. So the idea that, that like there's this, this liberal idea of a world without coercion and violence is retarded. No, it's, yeah. And the idea, and the correct is, you know, who holds the whip hand? Who is, who, who, who is sovereign and gets to make the decision of who gets to use violence and who doesn't. And that's the question. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:47:54 You know, I've been I've been saying since, um, since really since COVID started is man, a good sheriff means, would mean so much at this point. You know, a sheriff
Starting point is 05:48:14 who knows how to deputize people. A sheriff who, if you have a good enough sheriff, things like this just don't happen because you know he's going to deputize people and he's going to solve the problem. Is there a possibility that at the state level
Starting point is 05:48:31 they may try to, yeah. So what? So what? I mean, how is a shit? I could understand one of us. I mean, we're talking about, you know, we've mentioned lynchings here. None of us want this.
Starting point is 05:48:46 None of us want this at all. And we're not calling for this. just in case anybody we're saying that if there is a threat and that threat normally would come from someone like a sheriff. A sheriff is meant to be there to be the one who puts his foot down and says, no, not in this town, not to my people. These are my people. They've been entrusted to me. They elected me. It's not going to happen here. And this county, we have. have standards. And sheriffs have done it before.
Starting point is 05:49:23 I mean, Obama had everything ready for like the biggest gun ban of all time. And like a load of sheriffs. I mean, I mean, like more than 20 in California said we're not going to enforce that. That is not going to happen here in California. And it basically killed it. And it happened in Illinois recently. a sheriff stepping up and having the like in silicaa alabama right now the sheriff is an interim sheriff and he looks like a retired rapper and it seems like his only job is to protect the she boon who these
Starting point is 05:50:02 fucking idiots elected to be like the head of the city council can we stop electing these fucking idiot, these fucking people who it should be at Waffle House serving us at Waffle House. Okay? Not in front of a city fucking council. Well, because it's because you know what?
Starting point is 05:50:25 I respect, I go to Waffle House. I go to Waffle House all the time. I respect the waiters and waitresses at Waffle House more than I do these motherfuckers. Yeah, because the waitresses and waiters at Waffle House are doing the job they were given. They're doing the job they were given. These other people, it's just a retirement for them.
Starting point is 05:50:45 Or it's a secondary income for them. Like they don't take the job seriously. That's the problem. People have been, people have been, and I'm going to go back to your point, D. People have been so spoiled for so long. Like America, the beautiful says, God shed his grace on me. We have been graced with so much, blessed with so much, which is why I'm a huge isolation.
Starting point is 05:51:09 this, but that's a whole other topic. But like we've been blessed with so much that people have gotten so complacent isn't quite the right word, but it'll have to suffice. So lazy, so complacent. When I say lazy, I'm not even talking about they don't want to work anymore. I'm not trying to go on some boomer rant about, oh, my lazy workers and my bootstraps. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about intellectually lazy.
Starting point is 05:51:33 They've outsourced all their thinking. They've outsourced all their processes, all their critical thinking. all their analyses they've outsourced every single they just want to kind of do their thing watch their watch their sports watch your television play on their whatever they don't want to think about anything you don't know we want to see the world's crumbling around them they don't want to address in the conflict and that's the problem because they don't have to because the dominoes on their left and their right haven't fallen yet even though all the others have but those dominoes will fall they're going to fall very very soon and you're absolutely right
Starting point is 05:52:06 I'm with you. I'm old school. If you do your job and you work hard, I couldn't care if you empty trash or you're a CEO of business. It doesn't mean anything to be. If you do the job of the best of your ability, you deserve respect. We do an honest job. You deserve respect. But there's a book that addresses your point, Pete, specifically,
Starting point is 05:52:24 that I would highly recommend. It's by Matthew Trujella and it's called the Doctrine of the Lester Magistrates. And it talks about the European tradition, more of the English, the Wales, all that tradition, but European tradition in general of when lawful authority is not utilized. Or the people above, tyranny, it's a defense against tyranny, it's a defense against injustice,
Starting point is 05:52:52 where it is your duty, it is not your freedom, it is not your right, it is your duty to say no. It is your duty to go against the grain. It is your duty to protect your people, to protect your community, to protect your locale. I highly recommend it. It's called the doctrine of the lesser magistrates, Matthew Trewella. And it talks all about the point you're raising, raising Pete, all about that. Go ahead, anyone once we go.
Starting point is 05:53:28 Well, the problem in the first place, and this is the problem with the Nuremberg regime, is like prior to the Nuremberg regime, the people of Alabama knew that people like that shouldn't have any voice in public policy. They just said they might deal with the black community, but women like that, they weren't allowed near anything. The white people would go down to the Prince Hall-Mason's Lodge.
Starting point is 05:53:56 They sit down with the black leaders of the community. And they say, all right, this is what we need. This is how it's going to be. You guys figure it out. And the leadership of the black community will be like, all right, we're going to need some walking around money. We're going to need, you know, two seats in the city council. We're going to need, you know, this and this, you know, jobs for people.
Starting point is 05:54:25 And, you know, so many police officers, et cetera, whatever. But they make a deal. and then things would basically function. You know, if you put your cat in a sled dog harness and then you get mad at your cat because you're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 05:54:51 Who made the mistake? You or your cat? Bingo. Right? This is if you want to go somewhere, get a team of huskies. Line them up and they'll take you wherever you want to go because they're like, this is great, this is a job.
Starting point is 05:55:12 We want to run, we want to, oh, we get to run, we get to run. Oh, really? We get to run. This is the best. Are we running? Are we running? We're getting to run today. This is the best.
Starting point is 05:55:19 Have you seen what huskies are like when you, when you get them in harness? They're like, oh, this is so cool. We get to run today. Whereas if you do the same thing for a bunch of cats, they'd like it'd be a tangled mess and there'd be fights and and you know it'd be a mess you'd get nowhere so why you're in earth are we letting people who can't do the job be in charge of anything right coming you know like yeah Kamala Harris is dumb and venal and and all kinds of things like at some point you got to kind of feel sorry for her because
Starting point is 05:55:55 she's been put in this position where it's like like right we're asking her like okay she's like a hammer made out of jello like it's just not going to work man you know like like okay we know is this person who doesn't know anything has never worked in the private sector her entire life has been you know put in place because of her loose morals and low standards like all of a sudden we're going to require her like knowledge and moral rectitude and and seriousness this like What? You know, this is not a recipe for success. And increasingly, you know, I'm not, I mean, of course, you know, ADL or whatever,
Starting point is 05:56:45 be like, you're a terrible racist. Like, no, you're asking people like that poor lady from silly, I'm sure she's a vile human being and terrible in every single way. I'm sure she's on the take. I'm sure she's, you know, got lots. of like low level schemes that that you know damage the public fisc I'm sure her boyfriend or you know her niece or somebody has been given a no show job I'm sure like all kinds of stuff but like that's what happens Eric Adams you know the mayor of New York he's he's
Starting point is 05:57:18 been indicted for being corrupt it's like he's a black politician that that's literally inherent to how they operate what what what what are you mad that your dog shot on the lawn. Right. Yeah. I put that very thing. Like it's inherent in the way they operate from James Clyburn on down. They're all crooked.
Starting point is 05:57:40 They're all guilty of fraud and corruption. And that's the way the system has been set up. Well, I, and they've never operated any way differently. Yeah. I put my first book. And I said, I said with you,
Starting point is 05:57:56 if you give your dog a treat every time, it pisses on the carpet. Don't be upset at the cleaning bill. That's in my first book. And it's the same, this is, it's exactly the point you're addressing. It's also why I don't have hate in my heart for the black community. I don't. I really don't. Even with all I've been through, as Pete and I talked about on, on the first time he and I spoke on his broadcast about race war in high school. I don't have hate for that community. I really don't. I sincerely and truly don't. I have, I have Christian love for them, but that's also a paternal love. It also doesn't mean I think you should be allowed to commit crimes and be held to no standard and none
Starting point is 05:58:34 of that. Like you were saying, Dee, like, everybody will scream and call me a racist. And it's like I'm not. I love, I love them like a Christian. I just don't put up with dumb behavior, shitty behavior. And I also don't burden them with expectations that they couldn't possibly meet. you know if you people wonder why they're why they're violent people wonder why they're always angry why they're so dissatisfied it's like well if i'm constantly holding you to a standard you can't meet you'd be pissed off too and this isn't to make excuses for them that's not what i'm doing i'm not making excuses for anybody but what i am saying is i'm addressing your point d and i'm agreeing and i'm amplifying with it and that is to say don't be it's not the cat's fault that it couldn't
Starting point is 05:59:19 pull your your dog slay you gave it the wrong job And this is the problem, at the end of the day, this is the problem with, with quote unquote equality and why it's inherently satanic. It's because hierarchy is the only way to make things function and for people to find a certain contentedness. I won't say happiness, but I'll say contentedness with their lot in life. Because when you're where you belong, when you're where you feel that you, you succeed, you're much more content, you're much more stable, you're less depressed,
Starting point is 05:59:52 you're less angry you feel more in tune with the universe you feel more in rhythm with things and when you pull get pulled out of that either up or down it throws everything off and it throws one's life into turmoil and that's that's why we do nobody any assistance by trying to either pull them up or push them down let water seek its own level that's that's how it should be well like no one started out a master of their trade whether it's blacksmithing or like no one no one's inherently just like a general capable of seeing the whole battlefield and understanding you know the movements of tens of thousands of men and you're like you got to start out being responsible for you know a company or a squad you got to be a lieutenant and then a captain and then a major and then a lieutenant colonel and then a colonel and then a colonel and then a colonel and then a general and then you know get promoted on higher up no one starts a master craftsman to the trade everyone's got to start at a spot where they don't know what they're doing they don't know their elbow from a hole in the ground and we're essentially taking people that haven't
Starting point is 06:01:08 gone through that process either individually or on a civil or or collectively and then expecting them like okay like Haitians don't know how to drive but why would why should they and then we're being like, okay, well, you should be able to drive F1 with all these Germans and Swedes. Like, what? No, they're just going to get themselves killed. They're just going to hurt a bunch of people because they don't, they don't know. And I'm not defending any of them. They need to go back, like Pete said.
Starting point is 06:01:39 But, and this is, this is the real understanding. Like, this is really malicious, this mayor, right? The purpose of a system is what it does. Everybody knows that X amount of little kids are going to get run over on their way to school in a crosswalk because Haitian does not have to break their, you know, like somehow to use the brakes on a car. They know that, you know, certain amount of rapes are going to occur, a certain amount of petty theft, certain amount of assault, certain amount, whatever. They know that this is going to happen. And they let it happen anyway. So that's what they're intending to do.
Starting point is 06:02:20 The tens of millions of girls, tens of thousands of girls, probably millions of girls who've been raped in England, but Pakistani gangs, they know it and they wanted to happen. The crime in America from black inner cities, they know it and they want it to happen. This isn't, this is in 1956. We're like, oh gosh, what could happen? No, this is, this is 50 years or 60 or 70 years after. We know what's going to happen. race war in high school was half a century ago there's no excuses now so the question they have to ask you dear listener is do you want to live in a civilization or not and if you do
Starting point is 06:03:06 there's certain things are going to be required and legitimately the system is one of those things that might or might not survive whatever is required Yeah, the, um, I, I, I just found this online. Um, one of my mutual, one of my mutuals shared it. And it goes to something that we said was something we were talking about earlier. And I'm going to, I'm going to share this and play this, because, um, I think, I just find it very interesting that this was, This was shared with me right at the time that, you know, we're talking about this. So let me get this up here. Hold on.
Starting point is 06:03:57 This is from a podcast called the Berm Pit. I think it's like ex-marines kind of guys. But I want to see if anybody can detect any lies here at all. The funny thing is, the funny thing is, you know where I stand on this. The whole reason. that this country's fucked up is because there is no right-wing violence. Left-wing violence is why this country's in the shape that it's in, because all the violence is being carried out to push left-wing policy,
Starting point is 06:04:29 left-wing ideology, and none of it is used to push, there is no violence from the right, pushing right-wing ideology and right-wing policy. Where's the lie? No lie's detected. Yeah. If you saw true right-wing, Violence. You would see the Federal Reserve abolished by physical force, by physical violence.
Starting point is 06:04:51 You would see tax codes and tax laws completely eradicated and erased by right-wing violence, because that's a right-wing policy. You would see more abortion clinics being freaking blown up. You would see BLM being shot in the streets like dogs whenever that happened in 2020. And also, you would have saw the right-wing shooting any government official, including law enforcement, for protecting their businesses from being unconstitutionally shut down. There is no right-wing violence, and that's why our constitutional rights are being trampled. Because you know who did, historically speaking,
Starting point is 06:05:24 used the best right-wing violence, Scotty Seaberts? Waco? No, that was another thing. The founding fathers used right-wing violence, and the nation of America was born because of it. That's just a fact. It is a fact. I would only quibble that founding fathers were right-wing,
Starting point is 06:05:43 but otherwise he's 100% correct. That's exactly. I'm with you, Dean. Well, yeah, that would be literally. Any serious political, any serious political movement that wants to actually establish a legitimate political order is going to have to use, like, a certain degree of violence and coercion, like, that's just, like, that's not even up for debate. To deny that is just, like, engaging in, um, And an historical analysis of how, like, political orders emerge. And like, yeah,
Starting point is 06:06:21 violence inherent in the system, right? Like, this is, this is, this is the way it goes. And, like, these people want to pretend that, that there's such a possibility as a system without violence. And, like, there just isn't. That's the nature of a system. The nature of a government system is. the nature of government is the government says this violence is acceptable and this violence
Starting point is 06:06:47 is not. Yes, that's exactly it in a nutshell. That's that's literally the point of government is to legitimize certain kinds of violence and to delegitimize certain other kinds of violence. Yes. And I would the second you say, oh, well, that's not going to happen. A biker gang is going to move in and
Starting point is 06:07:05 say this kind of violence is acceptable and this kind of violence isn't. Right. So you're going to have a government no matter what. Yeah, and that's the post Nuremberg order. And this is what people will not, this is what people still fight me on, is, you know, we talk about the post Nuremberg order and who instituted the post Nuremberg order. Read the authoritarian personality. That book lays out all the recommendations that they had in that book have come to pass.
Starting point is 06:07:38 Destroy the family, destroy churches, make right wing. being, make right wing illegal, and people do not want to accept the fact that a book that was commissioned by the American Jewish committee was their playbook. And that the way you can tell us their playbook is everything they recommended was done. Okay. If someone tells meeting, me personally using violence, I get arrested in the international thought group. But just hypothetically, let's say, me and a whole bunch of other fathers, daughters, found every, male trune who wanted to use a bathroom with our girls and persuaded them that they didn't want to do that anymore right okay in any society prior to 1950 in america they'd be like what took
Starting point is 06:08:32 you so long right exactly like and here's the here's the worst part of it all for me as far as far as I'm concerned, as far as I see things, it's, it's, it's not just the lack of, of right-wing violence that is, that is the issue to me. To me, it's, it's that not only is it the lack of such, it's that what's the difference between left-wing violence and right-wing violence? Right-wing violence is far more surgical in its nature than left-wing violence. Left-wing violence is generally just destabilization tactics. That's generally what it is. is. Now, I'm sure somebody could quibble here and there with me. But overall, that's the purpose of left-wing violence. Just overthrow whatever stability exists and then try and quickly fill
Starting point is 06:09:20 the vacuum. That's it. Whereas right-wing violence, as you point out, D, it's, hey, we don't want these guys in our daughter's bathroom. It starts there, it stops there, until the next issue arises. Hey, we don't want this taught in our schools. Maybe all these books need to disappear. Maybe these teachers don't need to be teaching here anymore. Whatever. Then it stops. Then it starts. Again, it's patriarchal in nature. And you want, you're either going to have your, your dad lay down the law, or you're going to have your mom lay down the law. And you never want mom to lay down the law. And in fact, a good mom doesn't want to lay down the law. Why? Because she's not good at it. Because mom is not good at laying down the law, because the rules change with
Starting point is 06:10:07 mom because a lot of things that she does are on a whim or on her moves you know one day it may be okay the next day it may not be and this isn't this isn't to attack women it's just again to go back to what you were saying d you can't put the harness on a cat it's just not going to work so you want you can either have mom to lay down the law or dad you always want dad because again unless it's a really dysfunctional family dad is going to say hey this is the rule today This will be the rule tomorrow. This will be the rule next month. And that's just what it's going to be.
Starting point is 06:10:42 You know where your boundaries are. You know what you're going to be allowed to do and what you're not going to be allowed to do. But mom will bend and with the wind. And that's the difference between the two forms of violence and why left-wing violence is so much more deleterious to the social fabric, not only because that's its intention to be more deleterious to the social fabric, but because by its very nature,
Starting point is 06:11:06 It is not constructive. It is not surgical. Its main goal is not to build or to heal. Whereas right-wing violence, the main goal is to heal or to build. Maybe not in the short term, but definitely in the mid-to-long-term. Yeah. Yeah. One thing to know about a lot of, like, right-wing violence,
Starting point is 06:11:33 especially the accepted variety is that it tends to also be pretty reactive in nature because I think the left is proactively destabilizing when it comes to how it ushers in all this violence in its political orders. They are designed to disrupt and destroy things. And I think one of the main issues with the right, especially in my my time observing how they do politics is that they will take small victories, whether it's like with gun rights or any type of like transgender policy, but they don't really build off of them. They don't try to go towards the nexus of organized jury and the myths. It's created
Starting point is 06:12:22 with the Nuremberg regime. They're content with these very marginal victories and they pack it in where we have to be taking a much more systematic approach where, yes, you can engage in gradualism, which I accept, but you have to have a target mind. You have to define who the enemy is and their myths and then replace it with your own myths and narratives as you move politically.
Starting point is 06:12:47 That's an excellent point, Jose. The right wing are reactive and not systematic thinkers. They don't, they don't it became illegal to be a systematic thinker on the right after 1948 or 1946. you know that that's just right
Starting point is 06:13:08 Francis Parker Yaki had a systematic well thought out critique of what went on right even Pap Buchanan who I love but but isn't you know he's kind of weaks off for what we really need right any systematic critique of like oh Pap Buchanan's a Nazi right so any kind of really
Starting point is 06:13:32 honest to goodness, look at where we're at and what's necessary, or just the truth of things, right, is not allowed under present conditions. And that's the point of the system. The point of the system right now is to outlaw political self-faxualization for white people to make an effective government. there's only one group that is allowed to commit violence and commit violence against the innocent, commit violence against anyone they want, and they're doing it as we speak. Right. They're attacking a country that is 30 to 40 percent Christian. They're killing Christians, and a lot of Christians in this country are clapping their hands like fucking seals. you know, buying like sheep, and they're like, oh, they can do whatever they want, you know,
Starting point is 06:14:32 they, yeah, you know, I get, yeah, they can do, yeah, just dropping frigging bombs that you paid for right on buildings that are killing, you just signed a bomb that's going to go kill Russians. Yeah, most ghoulish shit seen this week. That's, oh, yeah, that's the real sovereign. Yeah, these are, you know, you just watch, you know, if you're on the right telegram channels, you can watch this happen in almost real time. And it is just, it is a city block and all of a sudden, boom, a building is gone. Why? Because a certain group that has brainwashed you into believing that they have, because of, because of something,
Starting point is 06:15:22 because there's some terrible thing that happened to them 85 years ago they can do anything they want kill anyone they want make up any lie about well there was someone hiding in the basement so we had to kill 2,000 people to get the one guy in the basement oh what did the 2,000 people do
Starting point is 06:15:38 oh are you an anti-Semite go fuck yourselves fuck you it's fucking done over I don't care anymore fuck you yeah yeah it's well if you're going to do that if you're going to be that way be that way without my money and without like saying let's you and him fight right to
Starting point is 06:16:04 people that control you know what the access to 40% of the world's oil like yeah i i i don't think my my eggs doubling in price over your shenanigans and uh the Houthi's shutting down the Red Sea is worth it. Sorry, you can call me any name you want. But I don't think it's worth it. And I'm perfectly okay to think that. And it's perfectly okay for me to say, I don't want you, you know, still mad about a program from 375 years ago to,
Starting point is 06:16:42 you know, start shit with Russia and risk nuclear war. And I don't want you to risk the entire world's oil industry, grinding to a halt and energy prices doubling or tripling because you you all of a sudden can't get along with your neighbors. I don't think it's a good idea to start shit with China because you are worried about them having, you know, unfettered access to the sea. Well, the Chinese can't let you control the Straits of Malacca and freeze them out of the energy industry or a billion Chinese people.
Starting point is 06:17:20 people die. So when you make threatening moves like, oh, well, you know, if you mess with those, we'll do this thing, you know, it's just a repeat of what happened with Japan in 1940 and 39. Like the Japanese had to attack the U.S. Navy because the U.S. Navy was going to make the Japanese starve to death. If the United States presently, it's like, oh, we have to contain China and prevent them from access. to the resources like do you understand what you're doing and the answer is for most of them no they don't they're stupid and venal and corrupt and dumb and if a system that lets these people be in positions of responsibility is an illegitimate system and I'm not going to pretend anymore that that I need to give my loyalty or my tax dollars or anything unless you point a gun at my head I'm not
Starting point is 06:18:18 going to support it anymore. Kamala Harris is a dumb prostitute. No system that's legitimate that has a valid future for my children would put her in any kind of position of responsibility whatsoever. Tim Walls is a creepy pervert. Any system that lets him anywhere near a position of responsibility is illegitimate. Any system that lets Anthony Blinken pretend he's a diplomat as opposed to, you know, So just a bloodthirsty Zionist warmonger is illegitimate.
Starting point is 06:18:55 Joe Biden has his brain has more holes than Swiss cheese. Any system that puts him in notional charge of anything is illegitimate. And I'm not saying I love Donald Trump or I'm going to be super happy with Donald Trump. Like Donald Trump's on probation with me. He's not nearly done enough to help ordinary people in this country. But this system is illegitimate. you know, Pete, you linked a report. Like, Texas is among the better governed states in the country.
Starting point is 06:19:23 And the state and local governments in Texas are screwed without federal intervention. Oh, yeah. I can attempt to that. Yeah. Screwed. Tens of thousands of dollars of debt per person on a state and local county levels. Right. Well, so there's just no way this system can continue as it is.
Starting point is 06:19:46 Well, to address your point, Dee, just very briefly, one thing that's been coming to mind for a while now is we are learning the hard way. We, and when I say we, I mean humanity itself, but the West in general, is learning the hard way that certain people were marginalized for a reason. And it was a good reason. Like, no, you're marginalized because you can't do these things. that's why you're off to the sidelines. No, we're not putting you in the game because you can't play it well. So get off to the sidelines. And but again, this goes back to what I was trying to say earlier about.
Starting point is 06:20:27 This is why equality is inherently satanic. Because again, you're pulling people in where they don't belong, where they cannot function. It's not even a matter if they will or they won't. Now, we both know that they probably wouldn't even if they could just because they're corrupted, venal, etc. But they couldn't even if they wanted to. So in short, that's something that's been coming to my mind for a long time. People were marginalized for a reason. And for whatever flaws we've been bombarded with tales of over the last two centuries about aristocracy and monarchy,
Starting point is 06:21:05 those things were built over more or less qualified people, capable people. working and breeding their way into positions. Like they got there because they could do the job. And my argument for saying that they could do the job is stability, more or less, for hundreds of years. Where there were, of course there were. There were always going to be wars. But the entire social fabric was not torn to pieces.
Starting point is 06:21:33 That happened much, much later after we got rid of most of these people. And that's my take on it, as far as I see things to do. dovetail with your point. You know, and make it, go ahead, Pete. And I really think, you know, something like what we're watching right now in Israel, what they're doing, really helps me to understand who my real friends are. You don't have to like Islam. You don't have to like Muslims.
Starting point is 06:22:09 You don't have to like Hamas. You don't have to like. like Hezbollah. You don't have to like any of these people. But if you think they're more of an enemy to you than those psychotic maniacs who are run by the city of London trademark, by the people who basically have held banking hostage in this country for a century, who own your mortgages or your debt or anything, basically own you. I mean, go, fuck you. You're over there, if you're celebrating, if you're celebrating the assassination, you know, if you're making fun of these of, oh, this assassination, because apparently the person who replaced the head of Hezbollah has already been assassinated. And there's people celebrate, there are people laughing at that on, you know, who are supposed to be on our side. Who the fuck? Who in Hezbollah has control of the, of the press in this country? Who in Hezbollah? Who in Hezbollah? Who, who, who? when Hamas has
Starting point is 06:23:14 brought porn to this country? Who controls Hollywood? Yeah, we're not living under Hog. Feminism. The fuck is wrong with you people. Who the fuck did this? And if you can't, if you're so fucking blind or you're
Starting point is 06:23:31 so fucking, I need to be a good person, I can't be one of those people who sees a Jew behind every fucking bush. Fuck you. Literally, fuck you. Stop listening. Stop. You're not listening to us. Well, you're welcome to see Canadian health care.
Starting point is 06:23:48 Like, the problem isn't, right? Okay. The reason all those southern states flooded isn't that it rains and that they get hurricanes. Okay. That's happened for hundreds of years. The reason those states flooded is Tennessee doesn't have the budget. do proper maintenance any longer because memphis exists and who's in memphis and who's in memphis and who made memphis the way it is it wasn't good old boys from the appalachians okay it was
Starting point is 06:24:29 robert moses and um um uh levitt and sons builders and the all the people who are the lawyers on uh Shelly v. Kramer were not black. They were Jewish. And, you know, the man, Victor Grewin, the men who invented the shopping mall, you know, the people who invented the shopping mall, Victor Grewin, Jew. Like, if those people weren't forced to pave a third of their state in Walmart parking lots, maybe that rain would have been absorbed by the ground like God intended and maybe there wouldn't be as bad of flooding
Starting point is 06:25:18 and maybe the people could live in places that weren't so far away so they didn't require massive roads so the bridges wouldn't be washed out because the bridges weren't so like there's this whole cascade of failures that at the heart of it is Jews took control of our society and they used non-whites particularly blacks as bio weapons until you're willing to say that you are not dealing with politics as it actually exists yeah well it goes like it's like my you are not you are not dealing with the real world yeah it's like my experiences in philadelphia d they keep talking about oh we you know the
Starting point is 06:25:55 housing shortage houses are so expensive the housing shortages they're not building enough homes like we don't need to build homes there's there's plenty of homes the homes should be honestly homes should be pretty damn cheap all you got to do is two things stop illegal immigration and start informing homes yeah yeah and start enforcing laws that's it like that's start executing everybody that has more than five felonies that's it five or more felonies you get the acts you get the guillotine that's it like i can't tell you there's whole swaths of philadelphia detroit Chicago, Atlanta. There's plenty of homes, homes everywhere that a young couple could get very cheaply and start a family.
Starting point is 06:26:41 Very cheaply. Oh, maybe they need to move into something bigger down the line, sure. But a young married couple, one kid, easily, plenty of homes, tons of them. But you don't want to live there because they're not safe because there's no order. There's no law. And the infrastructure is completely collapsed. but there's homes there's plenty of them you just reclaim them take about five years that's about it not even maybe two or three i'm sure guys like you and not even that yeah could get together
Starting point is 06:27:11 and fix it in two go ahead yeah half of redemption you give me a free hand and a first half of a presidential term i could i could get it's 80 20 and this is the thing yeah exactly again yeah I'll tell you who's responsible for the war in Ukraine Victoria Newland and yeah we'll make who's responsible for the war in Ukraine Victoria Newland God I'm sorry I think I got a terrible lag Go ahead please no I have a terrible lag sorry
Starting point is 06:27:43 Go ahead Like the people responsible for the war in Ukraine are Jews People responsible for the Toronto in the Middle Eastern Jews People are responsible for And by the way this isn't only us saying this I mean, go on Judge Napolitano show. They admit it. Colonel Douglas McGregor has been saying this.
Starting point is 06:28:05 Half the people go on Douglas, on Judge Napolitano's show talk about this. This isn't a bunch of anti-Semites saying this. This is people who just are like, it cannot be denied anymore. Yeah. Anybody want to have a functioning brain and that can like recognize basic patterns,
Starting point is 06:28:24 understands this? And to echo Pete's frustration, It is like a litmus test That if you're not able to recognize organized jury You've effectively either A become an enemy Or be a useful idiot For this fake polarized regime That relies on the left
Starting point is 06:28:48 And this like controlled pseudo populist right That just functions as just like the wing of like this predatory Talmudic bird of prey that is designed to just constantly attack this population it's just like at this point
Starting point is 06:29:05 in the game that I've been doing this analysis for well over a decade it gets frustrating to be honest with people falling for the same tricks and it comes down to the lack of like the basics where they cannot do a basic friend enemy distinction and identify who the actual enemy is
Starting point is 06:29:22 yep it's 100% true So Jose, you're an expert on firearms and concealed carry and gun rights and all that other stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the gun control movement in America is exclusively run by Jews. Yeah, Bloomberg, Soros, orgs. Yeah, there is largely bankrolled. Right. I mean, it's black people saying we're too violent to be trusted with guns. So make us take, so take them away.
Starting point is 06:29:53 and then Jews saying oh well take them away from everybody which like okay I'm fine with like guns being taken away from black people like yeah okay yeah not a problem I don't I don't see the issue with that and this is this is white conservative's biggest problem well this against the second amendment no the second amendment was intended for fucking white people to be able to defend themselves against savage Indians and slave uprisings like that's what right like this is not and and like your point about not being able to make the friend enemy distinction, Jose is completely correct. Like the friends of civilization and good order are conservative white men. There was a study going around like hierarchical individualist white men are the only people who don't fall for the global warming scam. Are the only people who didn't fall for the COVID scam? Are the only people who think guns, you know, who are correct on guns and abortion? They're the only people who are correct on homeschooling. Like you take every other issue, there's essentially the mask.
Starting point is 06:30:53 unbrained men that have the right opinions about this stuff and then there's the feminized mass media zombieified everybody else and for the libertarians you still listen your party nominated a sodomite socialist out of stupidity and inability to draw the friend enemy distinction i would also add one thing about the second amendment movement because um i've largely exited that space, but I have a different understanding now. I believe that one problem with the Normy pro second amendment movement is the framing they've used. They've seen it as like a liberty versus tyranny thing, whereas it really should be viewed more as a exercise of collective white political power versus as like a mechanism to defend against a growing
Starting point is 06:31:52 like horde of non-white golems that the Jews have activated because of the simple fact is when you go to like if you take the like the second amendment absolutist route you're going to be eventually defending the right the so-called right to bear arms for illegal aliens and dysfunctional non-white minorities and that's going to lead to like a really nasty scenario you absolutely believe it's schizophrenics should be able to own a gun because yeah it's going to lead to like a huge chimp out as a system breakdown and that's one of the big issues I've had with a lot of these movements is that there's been certain organizations I've been pushing this nonsense it's like no it's this is a the right to bear arms is very much a northern European political construct that was designed by white people and it's specifically for them and when you have this whole mishmash of people. from all over the global south coming in, you're basically giving them the ability to form their own type of ethnic militias and even statelets. Like what's to say that the illegal aliens coming from Mexico and Meso, America, 20, 30 years later, start to turn into like effectively drug cartels and other entities that will form their very own statelets here and reconquer Azzatlan, if you will.
Starting point is 06:33:21 like they're already doing it like like Atlanta is effectively a Bantustan. Yeah. What did they just do in? Wasn't it Denver? Colorado. They veterans, armed Venezuela started taking over. Aurora, Colorado.
Starting point is 06:33:35 Aurora. Okay. Yeah. It's already happening. Like, not only are you correct, Jose, you're, you're more correct than you're giving yourself credit for being. It's already happening. They're already here. It's already being done. Yeah. You know, it's I was, I recorded last night with president of the Central Committee for the OGC, Old Glory Club Red Hawk.
Starting point is 06:33:58 And we were talking, we did a whole episode about conservation and about how conservation is right wing. And we talked about, I mentioned like the National Association for Gun Rights. It's like, and he was talking about, well, you know, all these gun rights organizations, you know, they've won in most places and everything. Now it's time to switch. If someone like the National Association for Gun Rights switch to like conservation and like real environmentalism and started pushing, well, what's the first thing that we would talk about if we want to really clean up the environment and conservatorship? We have to start deporting people. We need less people here. Absolutely.
Starting point is 06:34:41 The Sierra Club used to be based on immigration and then a Saturday person bribed them with hundreds of millions. dollars and and they change their tune right this is you know the city of london financial rothschild whatever you want to call it like it's just sog um until you're willing to talk about that and the realities of race and the reality of weaponizing women um that you're not dealing with reality it's like trying to do physics without understanding newton's laws of motion you're just going to be wrong all the time. And I'm sick to death, had it up to my back teeth, of just dealing with people who refuse to engage with reality. To quote my good friend Borsoy, all we're asking is that you engage with reality. And the question isn't, uh, what should we
Starting point is 06:35:34 do vis-a-vis the Jews or Hezbollah or Iran or whatever right now? Because we're not in charge. right everyone in congress but thomas massey has an apac minder apac's in charge apac's in charge of who gets you know Pete doesn't have a youtube anymore why because apac said he shouldn't you know that's why apac and the edel say oh well you know i mean you make too much sense so you can't
Starting point is 06:36:13 speak on the internet we'll get you banned off twitter we'll get you band off PayPal. We'll get you banned off Facebook. We'll get you banned up Trovo and and D-Live and all these other things because we can't let you talk. Well, I thought we lived in a liberal system where everyone got to talk. Isn't that what the point is? But no, it's not. He is sovereign who makes the exception. So instead of sensible people talking sense, in Silicon, Alabama, you've got this woman who's notionally the head of the
Starting point is 06:36:45 you know, city council saying, well, I don't, we need to talk about that because it's about what the way people look. No, you dumb bitch. It's that it's that everyone who looks like you is stupid and incapable of living in a civilized society. The looking is, you know, just literally coincidental. The problem is, you know, behind the eyes. Right.
Starting point is 06:37:10 No. Their brains don't function well enough to live in this. Right. We have been judging you by the. content of your character that that that that's the joke like like like that's the bitter humor in it's like no we have been it it just so happens all of you that you think that way look that way that's all it just so happens right right the the one of the great privileges of my life is like i know some of the some of the best southern nationals in the history you know and and be associated
Starting point is 06:37:41 with some of those guys for several years you're telling me That's someone who grew up in rural Virginia, whose ancestors owned plantations for 350 years. For 400 years. Didn't understand these people? They've cheek by jowl with them for four centuries, and they have no idea. Why do you think all the white people in Mexico, all the Iberians in Argentina and Brazil and Chile and Bolivia, say, oh, no, no, no, no, you can't let these Indios have, like, liquor or guns because they'll just, like, they will make mistakes.
Starting point is 06:38:39 there's this notion that I'm wrong because I'm dealing with the reality right in front of my face there's spiritual components too
Starting point is 06:38:56 like you know Hades literally you know decursed by demons we can get it to that some other time but
Starting point is 06:39:05 that somehow I can't make any kind of value judgment because that would be racist seek Canadian health care buddy you know go go somewhere else so that those of us who actually care about living in a place with
Starting point is 06:39:24 you know no dysentery can forge a future because the way you're going there's going to be dysentery everywhere I guarantee you after all this flooding that's happening in four or fives, there will be outbreaks of disease due to diversity in these places.
Starting point is 06:39:48 I mean, they're already, it's already being reported in Springfield, like in the, in the hospitals, that the, the amount of people coming in there with AIDS, with HIV. Well, yeah. Coming in there with TB coming, I mean, it's going to be leprosy soon. Smallpox, things. I mean, we're going to, we have no idea what we've. imported in here. I mean, we have an idea of what we're importing. But most people don't have a clue yet as to what's being brought in here. Yeah, I think I'll comment on this. When I lived in
Starting point is 06:40:23 Chile for a bit, this was like 2014 to 2017, I actually had a lot of experiences with Haitian migrants then. And at that time, Chile had the first cases of leprosies for like well over a century due to that mass migration wave, and that was like 10 years ago. So, yeah. Yeah, like in, in 2003, when I was in, when I was living in Romania, there was like one place in the world that had leprosy, and that was like Moldova. There was one leper, you know, leper colony there and everything. And now you're starting to see it, you're hearing about cases everywhere. Why? Because since then, this policy of mass migration, and I just recorded with John Fieldhouse, a friend of Dees, reading Martin Van Kreveld's war and migration. Yeah, war and migration. Migration is war. It is you are declaring war upon a
Starting point is 06:41:27 population, and he just goes through, we went through the whole article where he's just talking about how movements of people is war. Is how you defeat. a people. Right. Yeah. Right. The English are no longer sovereign in London because it's North Pakistan. Well, I think we've discussed this previous. And that was a war. I think we've discussed this, but touched on this previously. And I, because I recall mentioning, I thought it was on this program where, where you're absolutely right, Pete, migration is war. It absolutely is. But I would say, and again, I'll agree and amplify
Starting point is 06:42:03 what my, what our cohort is saying here. I think it's even, more so in the modern era, in the democratized era. It's even more so. Because now if we have universal suffrage, everybody gets a vote, man, woman, and, you know, let's be honest, child effectively at 18. It's just, then now it's even more. You don't need a gun. Why would you need a gun? Just show up and start voting. It's that simple. Like a gun is actually pointless. Why risk your life? You don't need to. They will literally hand you the power. Just walk in the door. That's how insane universal suffrage is. Literally just walk in the door and you have your hands on the lever of power. Now, some may say, oh, but one vote doesn't count. Yeah, but if I bring 20,000 people in your community, it certainly
Starting point is 06:42:53 does, especially if I bring 20,000 people in that are from a very tribal society, a very close-knit society, it absolutely does, especially if I bring in a very uncomplicated people where their needs are very simple. I want gimme-dats. I want shelter. I just want Gibbs. That's super simple. If that's all your community is, is a very tight-knit, very basic people, very uncomplicated, then you're going to form a voting block overnight. You don't need to shoot anybody. You don't need to take over anything. You don't need a plan. just show up and start saying give me that the great Gregory hood has the the the great Gregory hood has a phrase this is there is no ideology with black people in
Starting point is 06:43:43 America they want crime to be legal and they want access to the public fisc that's it yep just give me that that's basically the mentality yeah and I I don't think that anyone you know if you still are like oh well there's this ideological commitment I have or no no you're just you're just wrong okay the the the the Pakistanis and Indians who have moved into into the UK they want to live in a better and more prosperous place than they're capable of building for themselves just like all the Arabs who have moved into Europe just like all the blacks you've moved African blacks zero ideology on that man yeah they want PlayStation and Buffalo
Starting point is 06:44:29 Wildlings and Thanks to, you know, Jews, every single one of these people has seen white women naked and they prefer white women to their women. Which, I mean, I can understand that, but like they want to go where the hot blondes and redheads are because they have this idea that from all the, you know, like disgusting weird shit that they've watched,
Starting point is 06:44:56 that somehow like a blonde and a redhead are going to fall under their lap the second they come to America and like it's not going to happen because those women know just how valuable they are and they don't throw themselves up mostly don't throw themselves away on that sort of thing but let's just let's just be honest about the way the world actually works and most people especially most conservative people they're wedded to the previous conception because they trust institutions and if we have have a project, it is getting these people to understand that the institutions have been subverted, and you need to think for yourself because the institutions lie to you.
Starting point is 06:45:42 And you will be sitting there in your home in Silicon, Alabama, and five Haitians will bust through your front door and beat you to death, and you'll be, but we're an nation of immigrants as they smash your face with a baseball bat and you might get one or two with a shotgun but there's five of them or ten of them or twenty of them or fifty of them and at some point all your ars and full giggle switch doesn't mean anything because there's enough of them and few enough of you that you're just going to get your lunch taken And that's the cold, hard facts of the matter. And what do they want?
Starting point is 06:46:31 They just want. They want to live in a place that's not filled with trash. In six months, it'll be filled with trash. But they'll just move on down the road to where there's no trash. You can see it. There's Google Earth, you know, 2008. Nice, single family, row homes, small. And then blacks move in and it's trashed and destroyed.
Starting point is 06:46:53 15 years later. They don't, they don't care about the future. Because them in 20 minutes is a whole different person. They have no conception of the future. There's only the eternal present. Whether that's black Americans or black Haitians or blacks from Botswana or blacks from Kenya, they don't care. I'm hungry Give me food
Starting point is 06:47:26 I'm sleepy I'm gonna just sleep Well dude you're in the middle of the street Yeah but I'm sleepy And we Because of the system that we have That's been designed That has that we've
Starting point is 06:47:43 That has been captured We allow it It's allowed It's encouraged Right It's yeah it's You can come here And you can do that
Starting point is 06:47:53 You're not expected to change at all. And, yeah, we just can't live that way. Okay. A few of us, I think almost all of us have a hard out in a couple of minutes. So let's start wrapping up. We can go around the horn and anyone can give a closing statement and plug anything you want. Start with Jose. Again, thank you so much, Pete, for having me on.
Starting point is 06:48:27 And it was also a total delight talking with Dee and Charles about these subjects, which I believe are the utmost importance, because I think that for those of us who have worked directly in the political realm or have been at least in this whole so-called marketplace of ideas, it does start to become tiresome after. especially if you've been working in this space for more than 10 years. It becomes very tiresome after you just notice people making the same mistakes over and over. And a lot of these people are actually quite intelligent and are pretty talented. But because of the simple fact is they do not have the fundamentals down pat, which is understanding the friend enemy distinction and be willing to name the enemy, in this case, organized jewelry. which is responsible for the overwhelming majority of the societal ills imposed on us. And I've been harping at this point for some time. But it's good that more and more people are beginning to recognize this
Starting point is 06:49:39 and are slowly organizing. Now it's a question of trying to find out which are like the best vehicles for retaking back this country that has been effectively. usurped by this new occupational class. That's going to be the challenge for the rest of the century, in my view. But in the meantime, people can follow my work on Substack, Jose Niño, Unfiltered. I also have a YouTube channel now, which I think might not be long for this world, especially given the content that's been coming out there.
Starting point is 06:50:16 But that's also, it's El Niño Speaks, which you can also find on Substack, Spotify, and iTunes. and I've done some interesting interviews lately with the Great Noticer Horace, so check that out. Charles? Yeah, I'll just say a couple of points. Very, very briefly. We were talking about the state of things in general on this program today, and we were talking about the failure to engage with reality. And something that I've been touching on for many years now in conversations with DE, because he and I are friends, IRL, is the fact that we are run by women and spiritual women. And this quote from Joseph Conrad's heart of darkness has stayed with me for many years, and I feel it's extremely apt to where we find ourselves in the West right now.
Starting point is 06:51:16 And I promise you, it's a brief quote, but I would like to read it to the audience. and the quote is this. It's queer how out of touch with the truth women are. They live in a world of their own and there has never been anything like it and never can be. It is too beautiful altogether and if they were to set it up, it would go to pieces before the first sunset. Some confounded fact we men have been living contentedly with ever since the day of creation would start up and knock the whole thing over. Thank you for having me, Pete. Of course, always a pleasure. D.E. Thank you so much, Pete. It's the pleasure to be here. All of this is on purpose.
Starting point is 06:52:05 The flooding, the power outages, the roads destroyed, the people drowned. The chief's responsibility of statesmanship is prevention of avoidable evils. I think that was Enoch Powell. All of this was foreseeable. Prudent and wise men would have seen and done the needful and prevented all of this.
Starting point is 06:52:30 So ask yourself if the purpose of a system is what it does. Our system sends billions of dollars to Israel and Ukraine. All Americans drown. And Americans catch dysentery. And then ask yourself, is this system really for America? and I've spent my entire public career screaming about the fact that this sort of thing is happening and I take no delight in it
Starting point is 06:52:56 but you dear listener you can go out and ask your friends wait a minute why are we spending money we don't have starting wars with Iran with Israel with Russia with
Starting point is 06:53:14 China with with everybody when there are Americans who are starving in the dark and freezing and up to their armpits and floodwaters. This is the point of the system. It is to exploit decent, hardworking Americans and to take every last bit of their sustenance and give it to other people. And that, I think, is an evil, evil system.
Starting point is 06:53:44 And your job, if you're listening to this program, is to tell the people in your life who are good people and otherwise mistaken the truth. And if you can, I know times are hard for a lot of people. Please support Jose Substack, support Pete Substack, buy Charles's books, you know, and support the people that don't lie to you because the biggest problem we have in this country isn't Zog, It isn't unruly minorities. All of that could be solved overnight if the average white man
Starting point is 06:54:21 understood the truth from good sources of information. So please support those people that are going to tell the truth and not lie to you. And thank you very much for having me, Pete. Well, I appreciate it, gentlemen. I think I've said all I need to say. I will just ask you all to stay in the rooms
Starting point is 06:54:44 Stay logged in until all of your recordings are uploaded. Thank you. We'll be back next month. Take care, everyone. What are they selling there? Nausea medicine? Nausea treatment medicine, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 06:55:37 I think they'd be selling PrEP that AIDS medication. There you go, Truvada. Is that a new Truvada ad? As somebody who has owned and driven a Jaguar, I must say, hashtag never again. As someone who is not just a client, but is also a customer of HIV medication, I endorse this advertisement. how are you doing gentlemen well thank you fantastic how about yourself good well we're waiting for DE to get in here he's having some connection issues but um what's on your mind
Starting point is 06:56:26 anyone got anything uh anything they want to they want to get off get out there and um start we'll start talking about well besides uh israel spying on literally all of our phones and social media accounts. Yeah. I'm pretty annoyed about that. I just saw that on the fucking timeline. Yeah, I saw that there was an, that was
Starting point is 06:56:52 them basically saying that they are going to combat anti-Semitism at the personal level. So your phones and every... Maybe this is not your country. You don't live here. I mean, it's becoming more and more
Starting point is 06:57:08 apparent that they just can't be American. They can't be anything other than what they are. A nation within a nation, as Queen Victoria described. Yeah, even Stalin said, you know, Stalin didn't persecute them until they became their own nation. When, after 1948, it was like, you know, Stalin at that point had, he had executed literally tons of polls. Germans, any diaspora group that was in, within the Soviet Union. He got rid of them because, you know, they could be colluding with the home country. And it wasn't until 1940, you know, 1947, 1948 that, yeah, as soon as Israel came into existence,
Starting point is 06:58:04 that was when he started going after them. The whole idea, the whole thing in the late 1930s, when he was. was targeting some of his highest generals. I mean, they just got in the way. It wasn't like he was targeting them because they were Jewish. He was targeting them because he was just targeting everyone. Just anyone had to have a power center. You have to take out. Well, not only that wasn't the tremendous preponderance of the party, the Communist Party at that time, especially the mid and upper tier echelons. Weren't they vastly majority Jewish? I I seem to recall reading that.
Starting point is 06:58:43 Well, the power broke. Yeah, the power. 75%. Yeah. Yeah. And we're talking, we're not talking about like every party member, but we're talking about leadership, especially in the, the checka and KVD. Right.
Starting point is 06:58:57 Well, I mean, that's the first step to really controlling any kind of authority. I actually believe that was pitched. Go ahead, Charles. I was just saying, well, especially in the checka, that makes perfect sense. Because if I want to run a police department, the first thing I do is, get my fingers in the internal affairs pie, and then I just find a way to purge all the guys that don't work the way I want them to work. Whatever reason, whether it be valid or specious, I just start cleaning house and then putting my guys in. It's really not that
Starting point is 06:59:25 tough. All you just have to do is don't be high trust, just, and you just have to be very ruthless. So it doesn't surprise me that they're overrepresented in the check, not even minutely surprised by that fact. I actually believe I was like to believe that the doctor's plot was bullshit right it was just Stalin being paranoid but when you look at what happened to Robert and John Kennedy
Starting point is 06:59:50 when you look at what happened to John Forrestall a American hero probably one of the greatest statesmen save John Foster Dulles that America has ever produced at least in the last 150 years that all you know met with very suspicious ends. I wouldn't be surprised if the doctor's
Starting point is 07:00:10 plot was legit. Yeah. So much else what we were told. I bet he did have somebody waiting in the wings. Go ahead, Charles. I was just saying, I said, so much else, what we've been told has been a lie. Why wouldn't that be as well? I mean, at this point, who knows
Starting point is 07:00:28 what to believe? Well, let's bring this a little more current. What do we believe about that Gates? stepping aside, because it seems like he did it on his own. So, you know, this is probably the most intriguing thing that has happened in this post-election insanity. The Matt Gates thing is really interesting, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 07:01:01 So the thing about Gates is, the thing about Gates is, I'm trying to think of who did that really good thread. I want to give her credit. I think the account was Mel something. Yeah. All right. And a lot of the names there is probably one of the best threads that ever came out on Twitter. I mean, full stop, like legit.
Starting point is 07:01:24 Incredibly well researched, super long. And one of our friends in that chat that we have Pete, I guess got with Ryan Dawson and got some additional information regarding some of the names in the early Matt Gates affair. And funny enough, surprise, surprise, it's Russian oligarchs, quote, that kind of had to flee from Putin, which, you know, where did he flee to, Israel. And last I check, I can't flee to Israel. but um this particular oligarch that backed that um that basically had i mean correct me if i'm
Starting point is 07:02:14 out of line pete but uh had people in the doj at least two right to get him fake documents including the one that he gave the girl that i believe he you know intentionally set mac gates up with it wasn't even it wasn't even anything that nefarious uh the position he had within the government locally down there, he could get, he could issue driver's licenses. Oh, yeah, I never even thought about that. Yeah, as a Florida ID, you know, if Gates wanted to, he could have done it. But the oligarch in question has ties to Natty Rothschild, Nathan Rothschild, as most of the oligarchs do. This is why Putin purged them.
Starting point is 07:02:59 What people don't understand about a lot of these oligarchs, have you ever, wondered why guys like Iri Kolomoisky, right, run around and, you know, literally, like, E.R. Colomoisky, his spending habits are identical to, I don't know, like, Rick Ross. Like, just tons of jewelry, tons of jewelry, tons of exotic cars, yachts, pictures, like just literally duffel bags and duffel bags of cash. Like, why are you a billionaire, owner of both the only energy pipeline in your country, the only really media corporation in your country, as well as the nationalized bank, right?
Starting point is 07:03:54 A person that owns a realist, like a person that owns all this doesn't actually like a drug dealer, right? Doesn't act like some black, like this is behavior that you would see from like a crack dealer. So it's really confusing. Why is this motherfucker shoving cash anywhere he could? And why is also Igor Kolomoisky, like the guy who was the original funder and 30% shareholder of MC squared modeling, the other shareholders were one, John Luke Burnell, may sound familiar, the next one will really sound familiar, and the and the other shareholder was Jeffrey Epstein, right? John, you know, Ery Kolomoisky is Jeffrey Epstein's kid pipeline from Ukraine.
Starting point is 07:04:39 Why is this motherfucker also dealing drugs? Right. Elon Musk doesn't have to deal drugs. Elon Moss doesn't have to child sex workers, or sorry, traffic sex workers. Right, this is gangster shit. And billionaires don't have to do gangster shit because I mean, if you have a billion dollars, that's earning $100 million a year just in carried interest, right? That's just, that's reasonably invested without taking too much risk, right? Elon Musk doesn't have to sell drugs because he's a fucking billionaire. So how are you, in one hand, a billionaire?
Starting point is 07:05:17 And also spending and acting like a fucking drug dealer. Well, it's because it's not his money. So the fact that this oligarch that is, you know, tied up in this Matt Gates' blackmail attempt has direct investment, basically been directly invested into by Natty Rothschild is suspicious as fuck. And the reason it's suspicious is because when Putin purged all the oligarchs, right, before they all fled to City of London and Israel, One of them accidentally died, right? And it was a big scandal in Russia, right? Because, like, you know, generally when a billionaire has a helicopter accident,
Starting point is 07:06:03 nobody's really that surprised, right? It's not like shocking. But it came out when they were trying to settle this dude's estate. It was like literally a national scandal that his bank accounts and his yachts and his properties or whatever, they were. will to his family, his wife and his three children, which, you know, would be perfectly normal. But the state, the massive nickel mine
Starting point is 07:06:31 and mangane is mine, which you need to make steel. So actually the real assets, like the real goods, that made this guy so rich. Yeah, it was just... They were willed to an unnamed party. And this was like a huge fucking flip out because you can't legally do that. The Soviets and the Russians post-Soviet Union are still very bureaucratic.
Starting point is 07:06:55 Like, they need all the paperwork, you know, crossed and dotted and all the shit. Like, you know, everybody thinks that, like, in Vladimir's Putin and Russia, you can just, like, wave your hand and like, oh, don't worry about that. Like, no, like, they are the most paperwork-obsessed society ever. It's like a hangover from communist times. So, this was a huge deal. It ended up coming out that that unnamed party was, Natty Rothschild's dad, Jacob, right?
Starting point is 07:07:26 And what these billionaires actually are are the same thing that a lot of our billionaires are. They're fleshy looking pink human-shaped bank accounts for somebody else. Right? They're a human shaped safety deposit box to hold assets
Starting point is 07:07:42 for someone else and they get to be a billionaire. They get to look like a billionaire and do all the billionaire shit. But they're basically a placeholder for a generation, right? You are a 60 year safety deposit box for these natural resource assets. And that's what this fucking guy was doing. And now somehow this guy is tied up in the blackmail and extortion attempt of Matt Gates. Like, what the fuck is going on here? Well, I mean, I think it's pretty
Starting point is 07:08:15 simplistically, you could look at it and you go, okay, Matt Gates' father is somebody who was in the healthcare industry in Florida. He started a health system. I think it was up in, up in the Jacksonville area, and he sold it for, I think, like half a billion dollars. Matt Gates doesn't need money. Not at all. His grandkids won't need money. Right. So, so APEC coming to Matt and being like, you know, hey, you know, here's this, he's, go away. So how, what's the way they get you? It's always going to be sex. I'm assuming at this point, APAC is nothing, when they walk into someone's office, you know, Massey said it, they all have a babysitter. I don't think that babysitter is showing up
Starting point is 07:09:05 with checks. I think he's showing up with a thumb drive or even an old school folder, analog pictures, and saying, here are the pictures we have of you doing X, Y, and Z. You're going to do whatever we want and that's so they had to find a way to try to get gates and um from everything that mel who goes by um village crazy crazy lady on twitter it's an appropriate appropriate account name it's so good it's such a good name too um from everything that's in that but and what's funny is what what's being reported basically backs up everything he said when he was on tucker three years ago when he went on Tucker told this whole story and people were like okay he's on drugs he's lost his mind he's paranoid he's insane and you know it all matches up and what how does it
Starting point is 07:10:01 start it starts with a tax collector from florida name joel greenberg and who is and who is joel greenberg he's a classic rich kid who dinks through life lighting fires everyone else is forced to put out. Now, Village Crazy Lady isn't going to tell you what that means, what those lighting fires means, is he is getting people into compromising positions. And that is his job. And the job is he's doing it for somebody else because you can see he's one of those people, just like you were describing, who gets involved with drugs. You're selling selling IDs there and everything.
Starting point is 07:10:50 He's not dealing with his own money. It's obvious. Yeah, you're not making any fucking money selling fake IDs, bro. Like, there's a reason why they had to outsource that shit that China and kids have to like buy it it on fucking Tor browser. There's a reason for that because there ain't no fucking money in it.
Starting point is 07:11:06 He's done a crypto scam. As a tax collector, money has gone missing. I mean, this guy's, I don't know what this guy's doing. I think it's interesting, but he's not in jail. I think it's interesting the way all of this ties together.
Starting point is 07:11:25 You mentioned Stormy a little while ago. You mentioned James Forrestle. And that really dovetails nicely with the Matt Gets three years ago. Everybody thinks he's crazy. Yeah, well, they thought Forrestle was crazy too. That's why they put him in the hospital, if I recall correctly. So I think that's interesting. There's so much of this dovetails, and me being just a natural investigator,
Starting point is 07:11:45 I like how all of this ties together, because as I believe I've said on your program previously, Pete, the truth is a puzzle that assembles itself. If you're really doing your job as an investigator, you don't need to make things up. All you have to do is pay attention and let the truth tell itself. Let the truth be a puzzle that assembles itself. And I think it's interesting, the forestall similarity with gets or the gets similarity to forestall, whichever you prefer. if you choose to look at it. The other thing I find interesting is what you were also saying, Stormy, regarding the sex trafficking and how that links to what Pete was saying,
Starting point is 07:12:24 where sex is actually what gets people. And in the intelligence trade and in the intelligence community, that term is a honey pot. That's what they call it. When you're trying to snag somebody, you use a honey. As honey potable as any other man. Exactly. Correct.
Starting point is 07:12:39 And I think there's a reason that you find all these sex trafficking organizations behind this, because as you gentlemen were saying moments ago, most of these men these days don't need money. They're wealthier than pharaohs of old. They don't need money, but they still have base human urges. And now that they are both rich and shameless and amoral and completely absent religiosity, then they're just going to satisfy whatever sick predilections they have, whatever dark whim that crosses their mind. So that, and enter sex trafficking.
Starting point is 07:13:15 We will bring you whatever you want to, and I'll try and keep my words relatively clean here, whatever you want to fornicate with, we will bring you. And then we will let the world know if you don't stay in line that you are fornicating with X, Y, and Z. I'd prefer to not paint too clear a picture here. I'll let you gentlemen in the audience fill in the blanks yourself.
Starting point is 07:13:38 That's what the Jaguar commercials are for. Right. Well said. Very well said. That's what the Jaguar commercials are for? Yep. Very well said. So what I also find interesting, again, just to keep these threads moving, I also find interesting you have that angle, the sex trafficking. And then we go back to, again, something else you mentioned, Stormy, with the whole, why does this man have money?
Starting point is 07:13:59 Well, because he's a safety, a skin and bone safety deposit box, somebody else, the real wealth creation, the real true assets. And I don't have to explain this to you. you stormy you've got more money than i than i have and probably ever will but the real asset creation they hold on to because they know that's where the real wealth is they know that's where the real wealth is so they hold on to that i also find that interesting when i draw the line from that collateral correct and then when i draw that line to hollywood where we'll give you whatever you want whatever you like will give you you can have a you can have a platinum album you can have a a phenomenal
Starting point is 07:14:39 film career, whatever you want. But at the end of the day, you exist at our whim, just like that billionaire you mentioned. He exists at Natty Rothschild's whim. And I would wager, if you're correct Stormy, which I suspect you are, a preponderance of billionaires really just exist at somebody else's whim. That's provable. I can do the same thing with Elon Musk. let's say hello to DE I'm sorry for sorry guys computer troubles of course
Starting point is 07:15:15 you know the Windows update as soon as I need to like it's like they can anyway I think I just real briefly to comment on that because I know storming and I've talked about this a little bit money is power right so a billion dollars is real
Starting point is 07:15:37 power. Why would any power system allow someone to have a billion dollars and not be part of the power system? That to, I mean, just thinking about it from the perspective of the reality of elite theory, Pete, that you've always talked about. Why wouldn't the power system be like, oh, this is our man, you know, because you think about how much good or how much damage someone could do with a billion dollars. You just look at what George Soros has managed to do, right? You know, and to a certain extent, you know, this is all arbitrary. If the British state had been like, you know, actually, we don't like you shorting the pound and we're going to, like, show up, especially back in that, back then when Britain wasn't the how it a husk it is now, they could have just shut up and shot the guy. You know, like, MI6 couldn't have, MI5 couldn't have found George Soros and, like, nope, you're not looting our country.
Starting point is 07:16:36 yeah you're trying to destroy our currency on purpose and publicly right you know and so why wouldn't this idea of like a billionaire who's effectively part of the power system why is that shocking or even why is that even surprising yeah they they represent a public display of wealth right so who do we not see is the question, right? Right. We're allowed to see George Soros. I know who George Soros, I know who backs George Soros, right? George Soros' first hedge fund was the quantum fund, right?
Starting point is 07:17:20 I still think that's the name of his fund. So with a hedge fund, there's the LP and then there's the GP. So in VC, we take a little, we have, a lot more skin in the game, right? So we'll have, you know, 20% of the pot beat our capital, right? The general partners, like the guy that's managing the fund. And the other 80% is outside investor money. All right.
Starting point is 07:17:52 So we manage it. They invest it. Or sorry, they invest it into the pot. We then, in turn, allocate that to specific investments. Hedge funds are different. It's like 98. and two percent, right? So 98% LP, 2% GP.
Starting point is 07:18:12 So that means when George Soros's quantum fund, only 2% of that money is actually George Soros's money, and 98% is outside investor money. And George Soros only had one outside investor. Right, so that means George Soros' quantum fund is 98% someone else is. All right, so even how George Soros made his money, being a hedge fund manager
Starting point is 07:18:36 someone staked him somebody gave him all of the money and he put up a little 2% of his own and funny and that's the same thing Jeffrey asks it's the same person it's the same person it's Natty Rothschild right
Starting point is 07:18:52 well and you know Jeffrey Epstein didn't have any of his own money it was all Lex Lex Wexner's money right? I mean or whoever you know like I don't know if we'll ever find any of his stuff out But, you know, money is power, and the power system kind of, to a certain extent, allocates who has money. What's shocking about that. So let's do this, okay, because this is something we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 07:19:20 I believe this is from the Jerusalem Post. Let me share this and play this. So, you know, you talk about, we were talking about how, you know, Gates has all the money in the world. so you have to get them with sex and in order to do that there has to be some kind of surveillance well let's see what they have going on here let's see what they admit
Starting point is 07:19:43 to openly bring up a whole lot of fear just to be public in their own communities what does Israel do to support diaspora Jews and perhaps feel alone kind of isolated so first and foremost
Starting point is 07:20:01 the new war room that we have established in the Ministry of the Aspora is a significant tool to combat anti-Semitism. We launched it about two months ago, and this is a new tool that is very, very powerful in terms of the systems that allow us to monitor basically every social network that exist and to provide us with details, sometimes details that prevent terror attacks against Jewish communities, and also details that allow us to monitor the level of anti-Semitism in various states, the engines of anti-Semitism, who are the profiles, who are the people who are leading, whether it is politicians or influencers or organizations who is spreading anti-Semitism?
Starting point is 07:20:55 And we have also results coming from these reports, one of the most important results, recently we have Canada and the U.S. banning Samudan activity in both Canada and the U.S. Samudun is a pro-Palestinian organization who was orchestrating mainly in Canada, huge demonstrations and also a lot of cultural and educational activities against the Jewish community, against the state of Israel, pro-Hamas, pro-October 7. And this is actually a branch of the P.F. FLP terror organization and it was proven and therefore this organization has been banned in both Canada and the US and one of the reasons for this event is that we've published reports and we shared our reports with the governments both in Canada and in the US and it helps
Starting point is 07:21:55 to pressure and eventually also to end the activity of this organization and we are doing the with other organizations such as SJP, that is now cannot function in campuses, but it's still a legal organization. And there are legal procedures that are being held currently, and we hope that we can prove the linkage between SJP and Hamas. These kind of reports, these kinds of work is very, very important. It takes a lot of time to prove it, to bring all the information. but this is a significant activity that comes from the research department that we have in the office and from the world that allows to monitor basically everything that goes on
Starting point is 07:22:41 in terms of OSCE, open source intelligence. Right, so, I mean, these are... So. Gibbs are the name engines of anti-Semitism. Hello, Mossad agent who's... Hello, Mossad agent, who's assigned to listen to... this program um first of all who brought all the immigrants to canada in the first place who brought all the immigrants to the united states in the first place who's who's responsible
Starting point is 07:23:07 for all the immigrants in europe you know heart cellaract there was all the heart seller you talked about it on tim kelly's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well and pete you talked about this uh with um with tim kelly recent on recent program like who's responsible for the immigration in europe that caused the quote unquote program in nsterdam where they They were, you know, during a moment of silence for people who died in floods, they were shouting and screaming, you know, in public and then starting fights and tearing down flags. And then, you know, then they cry out as they, like, why are they hitting us? Right. This is like, you just confirmed everything every AT Sambite's ever said.
Starting point is 07:23:53 And they have no, no self-awareness to be like, oh, maybe this is. why people hate us. It's astonishing. If I said, you know, Donald Trump, I think you should have a ministry of white boy affairs. Cracker diasper, right? Like, like as the, as, as, as an American. And we should, we should, um,
Starting point is 07:24:21 interfere in the domestic politics of, um, Australia and New Zealand and Canada. and Europe because there's there's white boys in those countries and and we're the government you know of white people so we we get to you know we get to pressure the Australian government that they're they're mistreating Jake present so they have to right now I'd be okay with us doing that but these Jews right they're saying we're the government of all Jews everywhere oh so your American Jews don't owe any loyalty to the United States and can't be trusted. Thanks for the heads up. You can't be trusted because you're going to
Starting point is 07:25:01 interfere in our domestic affairs. Okay. No, no, that's not what we meant. So this, on November 14th, and this article has disappeared from their website, the Intermountain Jewish News, which just happens to be one of the oldest Jewish newspapers in the United States had a editorial it was by the editorial staff and it said Europe's payback for the Holocaust and the one piece that I got from this
Starting point is 07:25:31 was it says is the beginning of it says Shimon Felder was right for minutes to introduce Shimon Felder the IGN that's the Intermountain Jewish News wrote and published a profile on him in 2001 he was one of the very few child survivors of Bergen-Belsma and Bivarach
Starting point is 07:25:48 and one of the many Holocaust survivors the IJN has profiled over the years. Feldor's story was different in that his mother, father, sister, and grandmother survived. I swear German efficiency is a myth. Perhaps for that reason or because of an innate goodness or because he was a world traveler, linguist, and astute observer, Felder commented, quoting Felder, Europe's punishment for the Holocaust is the destruction of its culture
Starting point is 07:26:21 the fact that radical Islam is taking over the continent and what this basically the what the article went on to do was it went on to say well you know because of what we did because of becoming overwhelmingly
Starting point is 07:26:37 because the Muslims have taken over there that's why we got pogromed in Amsterdam they were actually self-aware that's probably why they took this article down. Out of all the shit that they put in print, that's what they take down.
Starting point is 07:26:57 I had it bookmarked and I went back and I got a 404 and I tried to search their website and it's gone. I'm hoping that somebody you know, somebody put that on archive so we can look that up again.
Starting point is 07:27:15 Yeah, man. I've told you about my favorite game, right, Pete? The Daily Forward or Daily Strummer? Oh, yeah. Tell everybody. Well, so you take an article dealing with this particular subject, and you cover up, you send it to a friend to just text, and you say, is this daily forward?
Starting point is 07:27:38 Or is this the daily forward side of the ledger or the Daily Stormer side of the ledger? And about half the time, I get it wrong. You know, like, because, because, because they're so, so, right? So, you're saying IGN, and I have a brief history of the IGN up here, right? It's all pale of settlement diaspora people, right?
Starting point is 07:28:05 That because the Dutch endured occupation at the hands of the National Socialists. we can debate you know whatever um they deserve and and many of them died in the resistance and you know if you believe the story of corey ten boom and um right the the franks that were hidden and just taking your version of events completely seriously yeah thousands of Dutch people fought to save you and you bring in millions of Moroccans to destroy their country
Starting point is 07:28:50 and the Dutch deserve it or the English deserve it. Yeah, or the Portuguese. The Swedes deserve it. Yeah, or the Portuguese. Like, aren't they all European? Or the Spaniards. Right, yeah. Like, what? All of Europe? I don't understand. All of these countries. Right.
Starting point is 07:29:12 The Russian. deserve it you know what what is this it's like oh no no no you're not being honest at all you're just hostile you just and you know to be fair to them here i am right uh everyone feels that way like you know the i'm sure you've seen it the the you know india and pakistani diaspora now owns owns more land in london than native brits you see all these you know and they're all they're all celebrating oh yeah yeah and they're celebrating and they're celebrating you know look at this is what colonization feels like you know or or you know like oh well we're wealthier than white americans like well maybe because white america you're here stealing from us right
Starting point is 07:30:00 and this is of why these people are so hostile to Donald Trump is because he said he's he's not even you know promising you know blood and iron the way some people might have you know a hundred years ago he's just like can you stop taking ruthless advantage of people and they're like oh god this is the waste thing ever this is the new hitlet okay you said it not me okay i'm just going to believe you when you say you hate the dutch
Starting point is 07:30:40 even though the Dutch did nothing but help you the Dutch have been one of the most finalest countries in Europe for hundreds of years yeah how come Abe Foxman has a chart on his wall that tracks the
Starting point is 07:31:03 the white birth reader what was it the percentage of the US population that is that's not that's that's that's that's not a foxman who is that d do you remember his name the guy at the i think he's at the ACLU who tracks the uh or the southern poverty law yeah it's the it's not Abe Foxman I know you're but that's a good guess because Abe Foxman is also somebody who is an absolute um in great in that he was taken in by a Christian family and protected and
Starting point is 07:31:42 hates them it was who was it at SPLC I want to say Mark Potock yep Potok that's him yep
Starting point is 07:31:55 yeah just and he um I mean why why why is he tracking and why is he celebrating white replacement in the United States? Why? What did white people
Starting point is 07:32:17 ever do to him? Why is this newspaper that's like in Denver, right? Since 1918. You know, like in Denver. Why are, why are they deeply, deeply concerned with Amsterdam? Right. Well, the answer, of course, is right. Now, the second I, care about, you know, something happened going on in Europe, then all of a sudden I'm like an imperialist bigot who needs to be, you know, like I can't, I can't have anything that I want. You most certainly can't have a country and your kids can't go to a high school or a college where they all look like them.
Starting point is 07:32:59 You can have that. Pete, but they can have their own privates. Pete, to address what you said, why, to address your question, why? Why does he think like this? All the Christian family that adopted him, you know, helped him, did good things for him. Why? Well, this goes back to something that I've been telling D, you know, on the side for how long has it been now, D? Five years, eight years, something like that.
Starting point is 07:33:25 And I've mentioned it on this program as well. It's just a spiritual femininity. These people are just spiritually feminine. And it's the female loathing of quote-unquote weakness and the misinterpretation of kindness as weakness. And that's what it is. He just loathes people that appear to be weak. It's the same thing that Sasha Barron Cohen does. He finds good-natured people and he abuses them and he mocks them because he thinks they're weak because these people are sick and they are spiritually feminine and they do not understand that kindness is not necessarily weakness. But they believe
Starting point is 07:34:02 the two are the same, which is why Sasha Barron's Cohen's whole routine is to destroy is to destroy people's kindness, is to mock it, to belittle it, to say that it's stupidity, and you're a rube if you trust people. And that's what it is. That's why they all live in low-trust shitholes, too, because that's their attitude.
Starting point is 07:34:23 And that's why, that's the answer to why, as far as I perceive the world. Yeah, there is literally nothing that a woman hates more than a weak man. Bingo. They, you know, they will actually go out of their way to destroy the man that they think is weak.
Starting point is 07:34:41 The resentment. You know, I forget who said it. Maybe Greg Hood said this years ago, or maybe you said it, Dee, was there should be statues all throughout Israel to Americans and Frenchmen and Englishmen and anyone who fought on the Allied side. There should be statues erected saying they should be paying. for statues in this country to be erected to remember
Starting point is 07:35:12 you know what they did for what you know what the white world did what white Europeans did to help save them to help them establish their own country but we get
Starting point is 07:35:31 we get we get we get spied upon we get anti if you question anything. It's anti-Semitism. What were you going to say, Stormy? I said there is, there is a statue, there is one statue, James Jesus Engelton, overlooking a park named after John F. Kennedy. They are not without a sense of humor.
Starting point is 07:35:58 Oh, that's disgusting in a terrible sort of way. Right, and it's, it's American money that saved him. in the Second World War you know 53% of Soviet aircraft most of them are most of our ammunition production actually went to
Starting point is 07:36:16 Russians there was so much material going up through Iran and Iraq over the Caucasus that it was enough for 40 40 divisions
Starting point is 07:36:28 yeah why are American factories manufacturing 762 by 54 are like 54 rim like That's not even, like, sure, 7-6-2, yeah, we use that. Not the rimmed stuff, though.
Starting point is 07:36:46 And this is the, this is what Americans don't know, right? They think that, like, the whole war was fought, you know, band of brothers style or whatever. But also, you know, you'll get certain people that, you know, Stalin himself said that if it weren't for American production, and they would have lost the war, and of course they would have. You know, 10,000 aircraft flew from Great Falls, Montana, all the way through Canada, across Alaska, across Siberia, and onto the eastern front. And actually, further than that, because the factories were in Iowa, Buffalo, New York, Seattle, Washington, and Southern California.
Starting point is 07:37:30 Because those are the places with the cheapest electrical power in the country at the time. and the production of aluminum for the airplanes required massive amounts of electricity. So the fact of the matter is that instead of being grateful, they've shown for 50 years, right, or 80 years, that there should have been statues to the doughboys. There should have been statues to the Red Army soldiers. If what they say is actually true, is true. And then even today, how many millions of billions of dollars have we given them in grants and loans to get forgiven?
Starting point is 07:38:14 You know, how much of our ammunition production is getting sent up for there right now? Why are we courting terrorism in our country? Because every Palestinian knows that those are American bombs that were made with American tax dollars and they're only being shot by Israelis. if i if if if stormy and charles are in a knife fight and i i throw charles a sword and then somehow stormy wins and then he's pissed at me and like well what do you mean i wasn't in the fight like you you handed the guy who was stabbing me a gun you know what are you talking about you weren't involved in the fight
Starting point is 07:39:02 And this, you know, and this can be just demonstrated over and over and over again, which is why their total information control is so necessary. Because the second the average American figures this stuff out, they're doomed. That's why they have that, you know, bring it back around to the thing that you, you know, the clip from Jerusalem post television you showed. That's why they have to manage all this stuff. That's why the IGN in Denver has to care about. stuff that happened in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 07:39:39 Yeah, that makes sense. Because once that goes back to what I've also said on this program previously, that thread on the sweater. Once the American public starts pulling at that thread, the whole thing is going to come unraveled. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it will. And it's just not going to stop because you can't put it back together. It doesn't work that way.
Starting point is 07:39:59 It does not work that way. Yeah, how does this really end, guys? What is your opinions on that? Because we gotta be, like, I don't know, to the, to the previous point, like, what does this look like when this unravels? Because I think we're really getting close to it. Like, random strangers at the grocery store
Starting point is 07:40:28 want to have conversations that I, I, when I first got into this, like, would, you know, feel nervous about not, you know, putting on my regular phone and going, getting a photo phone. Like, now, like, 30, 30-year-old ladies at fucking Fresh Market. I'm talking to me about the shit. You know, the guy behind the counter is talking to me about the shit. Like, the guy cutting my, you know, my beef is talking about the shit. Well, not only that, not only that's stormy, but, I mean, I don't know if you want to, you know, if you want to talk about this,
Starting point is 07:41:01 but, you know, also people that you know who have generous means are asking questions about this stuff. Bro, I have, oh, man, now you're definitely going to get Mossad on my phone. I'm on a list already. But, yeah, you have, like, hedge fund managers emailing me at, like, one in the morning, tell me, like, I'm the guy that's known as, like, the guy that knows the weird shit, right? Well, you know, I was. Now everybody knows the weird shit. But guys that manage billions of dollars have sent me emails at 1 o'clock in the morning saying,
Starting point is 07:41:40 tell me what you know about the USS Liberty. And be like, well, that's going to take a while, how much time do you have? Yeah. And I get like a three-word response. I've got time. Like, well, it's fucking 1.30 in the morning. Like, I'm glad you have time. But, yeah, a lot of people up and down the income ladder and they're pissed.
Starting point is 07:42:01 well I think a lot of people are pissed and they're asking questions and I'm not going to say the two are entirely unrelated because I think it would be disingenuous to say that but I don't think it's necessarily related to income I don't think it's necessarily related to asset possession I think it's more what type of mind does the individual have and I can't tell you I'm not God I'm not Nostradamus I can't tell you where it's exactly this is going to end. But I am good at putting threads together, and I can tell you where I see the chips slowly falling, where I see the breadcrumbs slowly being dropped. I think you're going to see more and more of this across the spectrum, the income spectrum. Now, I think you may collect towards the higher middle or lower upper than other places, but I don't want to get lost in the weeds. I think you're going to see it across the spectrum. You're going to see this natural, curiosity. Or should I say, I hate, let me step back a bit. I hate the, ever mentioning the human condition. You're going to see this natural European inquisitiveness of saying, hey, I found
Starting point is 07:43:13 this, and this is slightly mysterious or slightly unknown. Explain this to me. Tell me how this works. Tell me what this is. Especially when you're dealing with Americans in the sense of the larger culture, that larger culture being very, shall we say, personally ambitious in the sense of individualistic but also ambitious. I want to solve something. I want to learn something. I want to build something. I want to get something. I want to achieve something. And I think you're going to see that those people are going to start asking more and more questions. And then that's going to have a snowball effect into the larger world, as certainly and people start asking more questions, and since these are the people that, again,
Starting point is 07:44:00 I'm speaking in broad generalities, other people look up to, it's going to trickle down to the other people. Now, where that ends, again, I'm not God, I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. I couldn't tell you. But I certainly can tell you that the path is going to lead us down a road that you would have just 10 years ago, or probably even closer to 5, not even imagined happening. And I think the landscape is going to change both drastically and dramatically in the next three to five years because of it. You're going to see people making much different demands than they have made in the last 100 years because I can tell you I'm 52 now and the world I was born in doesn't exist anymore and I suspect the world I die in will be vastly different than the one I'm
Starting point is 07:44:53 even in now. I will probably have lived three to five lifetimes in one if we're talking about just the map and the territory changing and the world changing. So that's the best answer I can give you. Oh, I've said for years I've said for years I'm going to die
Starting point is 07:45:11 in the left because I just don't think everyone else should be wiped out as a Christian. I can't support it. I think you and me are both going to die in a what? You're going to die in the what? I'm going to die in the left. I'm going to be, I'm going to be a flaming leftist when I'm not going to change you in my positions but I think by the time I'm 80 or 90 years old
Starting point is 07:45:29 being born in the late 70s like I think the world have changed so drastically and and you know call it Russian disinformation you want but thank God for Vladimir Putin because Russians play chess and he saw an opportunity
Starting point is 07:45:48 to hit the United States and the system where it hurt by by supporting Bashar al-Assad in Syria. And that's exactly what's led to this, right? You know, it's been a long time since I played chess. But if you play it all seriously for any length of time and you get used to it, you can kind of start to see a weakness on the board. And if you get like a queen or a rook in their back and you just start, you know,
Starting point is 07:46:22 one piece, two pieces, three pieces, four pieces, you know, and then they finally take you out, right? But you've just blown a hole in their entire game, right? Well, what Vladimir Putin did, and thank God, he's not one of these crazy people, like our State Department, because otherwise you'd be in the middle of a nuclear war right now. But he saw where the weakness was of the system, and by supporting Assad in Syria,
Starting point is 07:46:48 I think that's exactly where things led to today. And by never being able to live with other people, right? You're going to force the Egyptians, the Jordanians, the Iraqis, the Saudis even, probably, to have to go to war with you, Israel, if you keep trying to kill people with all, excuse me, with all of your neighbors. Right? You're killing people in Syria, Iraq. Yeah, it's five times. Lebanon
Starting point is 07:47:23 Um Iran Iran Gaza um West the West Bank Egypt
Starting point is 07:47:35 Egypt like you are you are killing people you are you were provoking wars with literally all of your neighbors and then we don't have it anymore we don't have the machinists and I know because I used to work with a lot of these guys
Starting point is 07:47:55 who'd been machinist in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. I know that, you know, you're a Jerusalem post reporter, and so you have no idea what it's like to get a part that has to be, has to be to the 1,000th of an inch, or it doesn't work. But let me tell you, that guy might not have gone to college,
Starting point is 07:48:19 but he said, genius. that guy can work a lave like you've never like a like some violinist work astradivarius and those guys they all had kids and you convinced all their kids to go into gender studies or convince them not to have kids or took away their job and now we don't have the skills because that guy retired and there was no no word for him to pass the skills on to and so his knowledge dies with him I worry about that. But also, like, is there a job that a white kid can't learn in a year? Like, just I'm thinking about, like, just the autistic kids that are on our side.
Starting point is 07:49:03 Like, just the guys that are in the comments section of every single thing that we do. Right. Like, these guys have, like, leveled mind autism. They probably could learn almost anything in two or three years, yeah. But they've not given the opportunities. Remember, you know, the Fortune 500 hired 94% non-white men. Right. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 07:49:28 So where are these jobs for these guys? They don't exist. Well, I would also say, too, they've been deliberately frozen out. To address your point, Dee, and to also kind of dovetail in Stormy's point, one of the things that America did well, and I think this is often overlooked by people, and I will freely confess that I was one of these people that overlooked it until the last year, year and a half, absolute top. So that's half a century, even I overlooked it.
Starting point is 07:49:57 One of the things America did very, very well throughout its history, and I'm not going to even presume to know why or guess why, but it did. And that was it recognized and promoted talent extremely well. Look at the 1930s, the 1940s, the 1940s. I believe I've mentioned this on the program before, and I've definitely given a nod to Thomas Triple Seven about this as well, because I recall Thomas Triple Seven saying, like in an intelligent country, you wouldn't be sending,
Starting point is 07:50:30 first of all, you wouldn't have the corporations running amok like they are now, but you would be taking all your brightest people like America did very, very well, recognizing talent. You'd be taking these, as Stormy says, I'm not really a big fan of this term, but I'll use it in the shorthand that I believe he intends it to. be these autistic white kids and just grabbing them and going okay you're going to mit yeah but i'm from like baton rouge louisiana and i've only won shoes three times in my life and two twice were
Starting point is 07:51:01 at funerals because we're just so poor it's like yeah but we can tell you're smart we can tell you can work a lathe like a violinist plays a strativarius you know we saw you in shop class and they told another person and that teacher told another person so next year you're going to be a MIT. America did this and it did it very well. And America also put a lot of these guys in government positions. This is to step back to what I was saying a moment ago about Thomas Triple Seven where he was saying that a lot of your best and brightest, they shouldn't be working for private industry. They should be working for the government. They should be serving your nation. They should be serving the country. And they don't anymore. Because why? Because like
Starting point is 07:51:41 you said, Dee, first off, there was all the government employees went to diversity hires. And now private businesses are becoming all diversity hires. So America, what once made it great was that recognizing talent, that recognizing merit and promoting it has long since been satanically inverted. And I don't think it's a coincidence
Starting point is 07:52:00 that we're seeing it all fall apart. Well, that was a very Prussian kind of idea to recognize talent and pull them into the state and push them to, you know, serve their fellow men. And, you know, Prussia's been destroyed. So, you know, Prussia's been destroyed so much
Starting point is 07:52:31 that in March of this year, I'm sure some, I'm sure a couple of you remember this headline. Germany adds new citizenship requirements, including knowledge of Judaism, the Holocaust, and Israel, along with a vow to protect Jews. That's... That's also a way that you know that they're panicking. because you don't do something like that unless you think that, oh, people are starting to realize what we've done here. People are starting to realize what our program has been and how it has not been to the advantage of the white European. You don't start passing laws like that unless people are noticing. and you start laws like that where do you do laws like that in the one country that you've
Starting point is 07:53:41 sought to absolutely destroy more than any other but i'm going to quote something that you've said pete that this is an age of absolute politics for the whole form of our life is now a function of power that's yaki me quoting yaki yeah Right. Okay. Well, if you want to back off the ledge, I'm not the one who's decided to play jungle ball rules, right? I'm not the one who said, okay, well, you can put concrete in your gloves and spikes and, you know, low blows and razor blades are okay in the boxing match. you know this is entirely them not being able to play by a fair set of rules and as trials has pointed out more and more over and over and over again that because they're so feminine they can't just lose gracefully so who made it this way You know, and if, you know, you're effectively forcing people, you know, Elon Musk said, if Kamala Harris wins, I'm going to jail, right?
Starting point is 07:55:11 The Jerusalem Post says, we have doxing software, we have an entire ministry whose job is to listen to every podcast they've ever done. and like try to destroy my life right banned off a paypal banned off of youtube demonetized like if you believed in all the things you say you believe in if we're just a bunch of idiots okay let me be monetized on youtube don't don't you know don't hound me off to d live and then try and destroy my to make a living on D-Life. Right? Because the second you don't do it, I'd be making a hundred grand a year.
Starting point is 07:56:04 Podcasting. About roads and trains and telling the truth about Jews. And you're deathly afraid of that. You're definitely afraid of all of that. You know, I think there is a, go ahead.
Starting point is 07:56:26 Well, the natural constituency for these sorts of things is intellectually curious white guys with a job that is maybe not, might require their attention, but isn't super intellectually demanding. And so they, rather than listening to NPR or sports radio, yeah, sports radio, eight hours a day, they throw in their headphones and they find stuff like this and they listen to this. and that's how I entered a pair, too. And if you let those guys work jobs where they're not frozen out, they'll all be making high fives or six figures, right? Why can't they run the gas station? Oh, because you're giving the Indian family a tax break.
Starting point is 07:57:21 Yep. so he so the indian guy doesn't pay any business taxes and he can hire his kids and not pay them real wages the second the second you say okay well you have to pay taxes like a regular person you know he switches he switches ownership with his cousin who lives in toronto and they switch immigration and then the whole thing starts all over again mm-hmm right the second we say oh well you know you maybe your credit your credential from you know uh kaka tech university as a doctor isn't the same as like an actual MD from someplace that doesn't
Starting point is 07:57:55 just cheat. No, it turns out it's actually fake. The NIH is totally exploded because they're like, oh, we have a doctor shortage and a nursing shortage. Right. So it's bringing in literally hundreds of thousands of Indian doctors.
Starting point is 07:58:11 And they're all fake. And Jamaica. Yet every fucking single one of them basically paid their cousin to give them a fake medical degree and none of these fucking NIH bureaucrats ever bothered to call and see if the medical school on the piece of paper was actually real.
Starting point is 07:58:26 So now their entire health care system is full of fake doctors right that they can't get rid of because they're not legally allowed to deport anybody. So they basically, that'd be like you steal in my wallet and me
Starting point is 07:58:42 and you having to catch an Uber back to my house right for like the next 45 minutes. Like me and the guy that stole my while are stuck in the car and we have to just stare at each other. Yeah, well, and a state that allows this to happen is illegitimate. Yes, exactly. 100%.
Starting point is 07:59:01 That's this, you know, it's a Kier-Starmour. Kier-Starmour is a tool of the city of London, which is just drug money and prostitution money and Lord knows what else, human trafficking, right? You know, the Cayman Islands, Jersey Islands, all these different little banking havens. that laundered trillions of dollars through them every year. That's all, that Kirstriam is their man. He has absolutely no regard whatsoever for the actual people of the United Kingdom. And, you know, you're seeing the same sort of thing happening in Canada
Starting point is 07:59:36 and the same sort of thing happened in Australia and the same sort of thing happened here in the United States, right? Because these people just aren't honest, like white people. Like, if a white person got the fake doctor thing and then, like, accidentally killed somebody, they'd turn themselves in. They'd feel so horrible, like, right? But these sociopathic Indian guys, like,
Starting point is 07:59:58 well, you know, I mean, like, you've seen cases where, like, you know, an Indian woman doctor, you know, like literally ripped the head off of a baby, right, in England, and, you know, like, contesting, like, why are you taking my license? I don't know. You've freaking ripped the head off a baby using, like, like, I don't know what to tell you, right?
Starting point is 08:00:17 So these high-trust systems, are only functional when you have high trust people. Bingo. Exactly. And that's that's the that's what the problem is
Starting point is 08:00:31 is you froze out all these all these white guys Charles and I've been around a long time. I know you have two Pete, right? The entire libertarian movement in 2008 to 2009 during the Rompelle Revolution was de class A white guys who had been denied a bunch of opportunities
Starting point is 08:00:49 who thought that the solution was like, well, if you just let me be free, things work better. And in their case, it's true. Like, if you let, you know, 160, 150 IQ white guy, I never actually thought about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 08:01:04 The entire alt-right is like, okay, well, there's this dude, the entire alt-right is 150, 130 IQ white guys who are working a job. Yeah, working a job that doesn't require them to actually. Yeah, the TLDR on that, one thing. We both know. Yeah, the TLDR, we know is. Underemployed white guys. That's basically what it is. It's underemployed white guys. That's what it is. And the only thing we had wrong in 2008, I can't get, I can't get. Yeah, the only thing we had wrong in 2008, 2009 was whose boot we had to take off our necks. Right? I mean, really, at the end of the day, Dee, that's what it was. Underemployed white guys. And all we had wrong was whose boot we had to take. Yeah, yeah. like it's better to wear the boot than be under it that's that's what we were wrong about
Starting point is 08:01:53 like there's going to be a boot no matter what you do yeah exactly so put your foot in it that was that was also also who is who is the enemy we were we were concentrating on the fed yep the state the state yeah and okay and okay fine sure okay all right who who controls the state bingo yep pizka yep where who's controlled the state since since world war, too. Yeah. I don't know. Like guys who got the wrong
Starting point is 08:02:23 ending, but I, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yep. Right. Well, and as you,
Starting point is 08:02:30 right, and this is why, this is why he's been demonetized on YouTube. I mean, I think you have. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 08:02:40 Yeah, I've been, I've been demonetized on YouTube, yeah. Right. Because the second you start asking those questions, right, then, and the answers are,
Starting point is 08:02:48 like, I'm sorry, Chris Langen is, and Dan, you know, like the smartest dude in the history of IQ tests is like, it's like, no, no, it's just, it's just them, you know, and you got all these people who are like, no, it's Zionism wins, like, okay, if you're so smart, why is the smartest guy in a world, like, like, pointing out like this is the problem. Yeah, on that note, too, though, Dee, look at the, look at the life history. Yeah. On that note, too, Dee, look at the life history of that guy, this smartest guy. look at look at his life history look at his employment record like that that's just even further proof of what I'm saying so yeah I'm glad you brought him up please continue I didn't mean to cut you right well yeah he's he's he's one of the underemployed guys because he was just too damn smart to put up with bullshit bam um and he said no I'm not going so so he would he would just you know load load I think he was like a dock dock worker or something or unloading trucks in a warehouse and thinking, because he could, you know, work, exercise his body and think at the same time. And the fact of the matter is, right, that you've structurally disadvantaged things so badly for the people who can actually make the system work that the system's falling apart.
Starting point is 08:04:08 And at the same time, you've structurally disadvantaged, you gave them a reason to be super skeptical of the system. If it was 1957 and every one of us, you know, got three, you know, a nice suburban house that we could, and a wife that was, you know, a deaf-free virgin with no tattoos, at least four kids, and a solid job. Do you think any of us would be here? Hell no. No. We'd have nothing to complain about. I mean, okay, yeah, the school is to get integrated. You'd be like, what the, you know, but okay, but like, we can afford to move.
Starting point is 08:04:43 it's not that big a deal, right? But you've pushed us and pushed us and pushed us until people are freaking living in northern Alabama and commuting to Atlanta. Listen to the show Pete and I did years ago, or last year, two years ago, where Pete talked about his friend that spent four hours a day in a car. He had no life.
Starting point is 08:05:03 That's insane. Jeez and right. Right. So when you tell that guy, like, hey, man, your life is being destroyed, your health is being destroyed, your family is being destroyed, all because
Starting point is 08:05:13 like Griggs v. Duke Power and Shelley v. Kramer. He's going to listen. You're right. My life is being destroyed. Why am I spending this much time in a car? Why is my food poison? Why is my food poison?
Starting point is 08:05:28 Why can't I talk about any of this? Why is Hartsfield Jackson, you know, this just massive dysfunction? You know what Hartfield Jackson is? No. Well, I mean, I know, yes. Brilliant.
Starting point is 08:05:50 I'm assuming that's the Jackson involved. Yes. Well, I mean, you guys saw the, saw the picture of the one melanaded individual woman in her car. Like, do you hate me? Why? Why? There was some funny memes about that, and someone put that to chirps. It's like, you know, lady, I don't hate you.
Starting point is 08:06:10 But I don't. want you in any position of responsibility anymore because you ruin everything when you're told that you're not just dumb like if you were if you were if you were if you were told the truth about yourself that you know on average you have an IQ in the mid 80s that you can't really defer gratification you're sexually profligate you don't save money can't really plan ahead and in general you just don't run things very well you know Richard Nixon
Starting point is 08:06:46 said you know the Asians can do it run their own run themselves like we do and the Latins can do it in a kind of desultry kind of kind of way that that doesn't really function all that well but they do it and then the blacks they just can't do it
Starting point is 08:07:04 paraphrasing you're talking like a 70 IQ average right that's a slightly less. And 50% of them can't stand trial legally in the United States. Right. And why are they allowed to vote if they can't stand trial? Bingo. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 08:07:23 Why are they allowed to work at the DMV? Right. Why are they allowed to do anything? And you always laugh at the libertarians who say that anybody can be a libertarian when all libertarianism is is like one shy
Starting point is 08:07:39 gigantic hypothetical and they can't entertain hypotheticals. Oh, I never thought about that. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking funny. Anybody can be a libertarian, and somehow the only libertarians I've ever met are all like nerdy, white, and Asian dudes and there's no girls. That's really odd, huh? It's weird that the Venn diagram crosses with the whole playing games so powerfully.
Starting point is 08:08:08 Yeah. well and and this is like Rand Paul who I like for other reasons you know is sitting here like well we shouldn't have the army invade because it would look really bad well I wouldn't want that you know the arm it would shut up you fucking idiot Kentucky's being destroyed right this very second by invaders yeah why are you why are you not calling for the Kentucky National Guard to drive the MS-13 out of Lexington because they're there. Because they're dealing drugs. They're drilling fentanyl. You're the United States senator from Kentucky. Where do you think all the fent that's killing all the your people is coming from? It's not coming from the United States, buddy.
Starting point is 08:08:56 It's coming from China via Mexico. You know, and if I kill 10,000 people with drugs, is it any different, any less of an act of war than if I do it with bullets and guys in uniform and and where did the Chinese learn how to do that oh right the Sassoon family
Starting point is 08:09:17 staunch Calvinists them I thought they know you've never heard of the Sephardic Calvinists oh yeah yeah of course yeah and this is this is why that whole operation to like
Starting point is 08:09:36 be like Zionists are winning or whatever that I'm not on Twitter so I have no idea and I probably never come back No he just hears me bitch about it Yeah but Like is Bap wrong to be Tell people to be in good shape? No
Starting point is 08:09:51 But like when you Lie about something as basic as like who's Actually occupying our government or who's in charge You're just making things worse Like Confucius say first the rectification of names Like who's actually in charge You know, I put it out on telegram, but like this needs to be repeating. Thank God.
Starting point is 08:10:13 And I'm a thousand percent serious. Massad, write this down. Thank God for Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin because the United States being schizophrenically whipped back and forth between two to competing fractions and two competing ideologies every four to eight years makes the world a very dangerous place. And when you deal with China, you know who you're dealing with and you know what their incentives. are and you know that there's a serious man in charge and you deal with Russia, you know there's a serious man in charge and you know what his priorities
Starting point is 08:10:44 are. This democratic government nonsense of, let's start a war with Russia. No, let's stop the war with Russia and start a war with Iran. Like, it's crazy. It's insane. It might blow up the entire world. Any second, Joe Biden could look up
Starting point is 08:11:02 from his pudding up and be like, you know, I think we should start a war with Iran and blow stuff up. Congratulations, $300 barrel oil and people are starving to death. Millions of Africans walking north because there's no gas and they have to get somewhere. And there will be Hebrew Immigant Aid Society with boats waiting for them in Tripoli, waiting to take them to Sicily. Yeah, Alexander Mayorkas will be like the Leonardo Ruther Caprio standing on front of like in the Titanic, just, you know, holding out some fucking sub-Saharan niggers arms like,
Starting point is 08:11:38 Yep, yep, they'll be in Marseille. They'll walk from Botswana all the way. So who's actually in charge? Like, you know, like Pete said, who's in charge and everything sucks? Like, yeah, and well, what's the best part about that is, and I know I've said this before, but you get this thing about it's like, Okay, so why are they overrepresented in pretty much everything? Well, how come Biden's cabinet is 80% Jewish?
Starting point is 08:12:15 80%. Yeah, you're just jealous because they're presidential cabinet. You're just jealous because they're successful. Successful at what? What are they successful at? Well, and, you know, oh, the Department of Defense was Lloyd Austin. The dude left his job for four months and no one noticed. Tell me he's in charge.
Starting point is 08:12:38 Yep. He was gone for how long? Literally, his deputy, his second in command didn't even know where he was. So how important is this motherfucker? Yeah. Like, who's in charge there?
Starting point is 08:12:54 I mean, you know, Michael Jones has talked about this. Who actually runs the American government? Is it anti-Blinkin? Is it Alan Majorcas? Is it Kamala? Harris. I don't think so. I mean, I think she's, she's got a, you know, three bottle of shardin a day and a habit and probably can't even freaking stand up straight without some
Starting point is 08:13:13 chemical assistance. But that's my thought. I don't know. I don't know. Is it Barack Obama? Right? You know, and Barack Obama, um, he, he answers to, you know, it's like, um, was it like six months ago he flew to London and it's like, oh, he's going, to London to tell them exactly what's gone. It's like, no, he's not. He's gone to London to get orders. Yep. You stop. What's in London? Chattermouse
Starting point is 08:13:46 is in London. Whose house is Chatham House? I don't know. Right. Well, and why do all these conspiracy theories, and I'm a proud conspirator I'll wear the, I will wear the tinfoil
Starting point is 08:14:01 head. Conspiracy theories flourish in places where there's epistemological crises and if you don't think that like yeah I'm sure there are
Starting point is 08:14:16 conspiracy theories in Russia but no one's like you know what secretly Vladimir Putin is controlled by the space aliens from the planet Zongo and he is receiving orders from the feelings in the seat everyone goes dude that's crazy
Starting point is 08:14:31 because Vladimir Putin is obviously in charge now maybe there's interest backing Vladimir Putin. But he has billions of dollars of his own. He's obviously in charge. And whatever interests might be backing him, it's transparent what their interests are and what they want. He is in the United States in Russia. Same with Xi Jinping in China, right? Like, why or who is in charge and what do they want in the United States? No one knows because we have this shadowy cabal of Jews that run everything that lie constantly. Like if Victoria Nguyen said, look, I'm still salty about a program that happened in 1648,
Starting point is 08:15:14 and I can hold a grudge. I can at least respect that she was being honest about that. And so I want to like mess up Russia and I want to watch a bunch of Ukrainians get killed because my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather, you know, had his shoe store burned down by Himmolinsky's Cossacks. Okay. Maybe that's reasonable. Maybe it's not. But at least tell me.
Starting point is 08:15:43 There's no reason that the average person should have to listen to, I mean, I like Dr. Johnson, I think I'm the one who turned Pete on to Dr. Johnson. Corresponded with him for years. You shouldn't have to listen to weird, obscure radio programs like this to know what the basis, like, why is there this gigantic war that might start a nuclear war and destroy the world? You know, Matt Brack and the great Navy SEAL author, and was on coffee and a mic the other day, talking about this. And it's like, it's, the analogy is like in 1962, if instead of covering the Cuban Missile Crisis, the newspapers were all covering like, I Love Lucy reruns and celebrity gossip. The Russians just used a weapon that we have no response for.
Starting point is 08:16:30 it's it's hypersonic in atmosphere we don't know what it ranges we don't know I mean maybe we do but like that should scare the shit out of everybody and no one's talking about it except crazy people on the internet why not if my kids are going to get nuked. I want to know why. That's actually a really good point. Has anybody heard mainstream news cover the Merv launch? Tucker's talked about it.
Starting point is 08:17:11 On the podcast. But nothing on TV. So like fucking, when I talk to boomers, they don't know that Russia literally launched an ICBM at Ukraine. Yeah, and you can, the video is out there. We showed it on the OGC screen the other night.
Starting point is 08:17:29 The video is, it's one of those remarkable things because if you're, if you're like a dude, you're like, holy crap, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen. But then you're like, we don't have an answer for that. So what happens if that comes our way? I remember back in 2018, they were talking about how he had an ICBM or it was, something just brand new that he could launch straight down to the South Pole come up around the planet and reach the United States. Why don't we have anything like that? Or do we?
Starting point is 08:18:13 We do. It's space launch. We don't have to go around the pole, but still, it doesn't matter. Once they launched, we can't shoot it down. He's literally just showing. Yeah, he's just literally showing off. He's just like, look at what we can do. What are you guys doing?
Starting point is 08:18:28 And what are we doing? But sending 20-year-old technology to Ukraine, along with billions and billions of billions of dollars who now they're admitting, we have no idea where that money is. It's unaccounted for. Where is it? Oh, yeah. And, oh, it's only the conspiracy theorist. Wait a minute. Victorian invention that there were 42, not one, not two, not 10, 42 different biological labs in Ukraine.
Starting point is 08:18:55 And, oh, by the way, the Hunter-Laptop, 100 Biden laptop story. actually accurate, you know, censoring the New York Post, which is founded by Alexander Hamilton, back in like, I don't know, the late 1790s, like one of America's oldest newspapers. Now, we don't know the full story of what happened in Ukraine, but we know for sure that, you know, the Biden family was influence peddling there. And why has John Kerry's stepson got a job with Burisma? Or John, let me, John Cohen. John, formerly known as John Kerry, right? Yeah, and you got Cofer Black, though, former head of CIA counterterrorism. What, why is this happening, right?
Starting point is 08:19:40 You know, why is it tape? Why is that, why is that company Burisma owned by Igor Pulamoyski? The guy who is on the same modeling company, the guy that funded that modeling company, which we already talked about before you jumped on, DE, that gave Jeffriette steam all of those little Ukrainian girls. So those blackmail, Jeffrey Epstein's blackmail tapes are actually Irochola Moiseki's blackmail tapes. At the same time as he was head of the World Zionist Council, interesting. Yeah. Well, and again, if there's no conspiracy.
Starting point is 08:20:09 The fucking internet is forever. Well, maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. They're trying to shut it down for sure. But if this is not a big deal, and millions of people said, hey, you know, if we'd known about the laptop story, we wouldn't have voted for Biden, he would have lost the 2020 election even more. than he did in reality right the question then becomes well why are you you know again just be transparent why are you why are you laundering all this money why is there tape of a victory newland picking the cabinet and in 2014 for a coup why was john mcane and lindsie graham
Starting point is 08:20:50 basically could you even imagine if two like senior duma members like came to Mexico and said you know thank you president Shinebaum for having us here um glorious Atslan will be retaken um first via bodies and then via bullets
Starting point is 08:21:13 and then the United States not doing a damn thing about it I mean can you even imagine how much and people should lose their minds they should be angry they should be they should be really like that's that's a really provocative thing to have senior legislatures of a neighbor of other superpower show up to your neighbors and say you should start some shit with your neighbors you know and it didn't work out last time we know that the georgians tried it michael schaksevili who's now i think the mayor of odessa or something right but the same playbook right there's a a russian minority
Starting point is 08:21:48 that was put there by the soviets to to create conflict in all of these soviet satellites in Kazakhstan in Ukraine, in Georgia, in all these places. Now, mostly in Kazakhstan, they just got repatriated or a lot of the stands. They all just left. But there was a significant Russian minority in Georgia, and they were getting oppressed and shot at, and they were told that they couldn't use their official language. And then when the Russians sensibly said, that's not kosher, stop it, right? Mikhail Shackziovi starts a war, and he gets his ship pushed in.
Starting point is 08:22:23 And John McCain, God bless that tumor serving the whole world, you know, wants to start a war with Russia over the, the one of Georgia and NATO. Georgia is not even on the Mediterranean. Georgia is on the Black Sea through the Dardanelles. There is no way, right? like the North Atlantic, Georgia, look at a map, let go on Google Earth right now. It's a ways, right? So why is this?
Starting point is 08:23:03 Oh, because the people who own John McCain and never forget that John McCain had some dark stuff in his closet, too. That he'd flipped in Vietnam, that he'd been the one who started the forest all fire, that his dad and granddad, the admirals, managed to quash that for him. But he sang like Canary in Vietnam. His wife, Cindy, was not a particularly good person. You know, this is all common knowledge
Starting point is 08:23:37 if you hang out in our corner of the internet. But somehow, right, this has never talked about in public where people could see it. Why not? You know, I think you brought this up recently. Dennis Hastert was the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, I think, still to this date. And the dude was a chomo. If I was a Democrat, I'd be talking about that forever.
Starting point is 08:24:10 Why isn't it brought up? Why are only crazy conspiracy people like me remember that? I mean, it's obvious because you can't talk about it when you've been implicated. located in it. I mean, that's what this, that's what this brings us all, brings us all the way back to what we were talking about in the beginning. It's, they have something on everybody. They couldn't get anything on, they couldn't pay Gates off because Matt Gates's family is worth, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. So how do you get them? Set them up, set them up in a trap. So it has to be sexual. And, you know, I, I said earlier,
Starting point is 08:24:51 I think that all of these A-PAC babysitters are not there going, you know, showing up with checks. I think they're just showing up with pictures and going, just remember, this is how you vote. This is what you do. This is, I mean, easy, easy, easy, easy. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's essentially what they had. And, you know, Matt Gates was at the time, you know, like in his 20s, a single good-looking guy in Florida. like and you've been to florida pete like i live there's dimes literally just all over the place you can just pick them up off the ground right like there's probably south florida has
Starting point is 08:25:39 outside of maybe what los angeles and like paris like like the best collection of like ridiculously hot chicks of probably top top five in the world south florida i would guess mm-hmm so there's tons of them around and you say hey do you want to spend a bunch of time with like a handsome rich dude who's got political power get some pictures of them right and i i sent you the story right if you put echoes on that story you'd break your echoed machine right like it was literally just other than matt gates everyone involved is jewish everybody and it sounds crazy but that's what they've got on everybody and that's why uh personally i think congressman's massy's wife died under suspicious circumstances um right after coincidentally right
Starting point is 08:26:43 after he said something about everyone having APEC mind who on the world's biggest podcast. Yeah, I was talking to Dr. Cynthia McKinney. Some of the fucking old heads will know who that is. But I was talking to her about Massey. And her in the house after 9-11,
Starting point is 08:27:06 I believe it was her, Ron Paul, and what was the guy's the gentleman Traficonte. All right. And after 9-11, you know, Cynthia McKinney goes on
Starting point is 08:27:20 like the famous, you know, her famous C-SPAN or CNN interview where she says, you know, Israel did 9-11, which is factually true. Like,
Starting point is 08:27:31 it's documented. I can pull up the FBI reports. Like the FBI caught a bunch of, you know, Israeli spies leaving the FARC towers with Vans full of C-4. Yeah, Ryan Dawson's done. Yep.
Starting point is 08:27:43 I was about to say everybody go check out Ryan Dawson's work right this work on who actually killed JFK he documents everything literally literally you'll never see any you'll be sick of seeing documentation if you go check out Ryan Dawson
Starting point is 08:28:00 but she says on the Senate floor or the House floor Israel did 9-11 and they're setting up this Department of Homeland Security and this Patriot Act to basically get you know tentacles in every single one of our intelligence agencies, civilian, and the NSA, not into the, you know, Army intelligence and
Starting point is 08:28:22 Air Force intelligence, Navy intelligence, but all of the semi-civilian ones and all of the Justice Department. So who else coordinates with DHS? DoJ, FBI, ATF, literally all of them. and the next, I think the next, basically her and Traficonte were, you know, just like they did with Jamal Bowman and who was the other one, Cory Booker, right, where they spent millions of dollars for a house race that no one prior had spent more than $100,000 in history, right, millions of dollars for a house race, and push these guys out, and within a week, Jim Traficonte, or not Jim, I can't remember. I just remember his last name's Traficonte.
Starting point is 08:29:09 Jim Chalkanth is the mobster. James. James Trafficking. Traffigant. Yeah, that's exactly right. He had a very strange lawnmower accident, right? He was mowing his yard
Starting point is 08:29:23 and suddenly died. And Cynthia McKinney had to go be a teacher in fucking Bangladesh. Right? That was the furthest the way that she could get because she would have been just like him.
Starting point is 08:29:36 And they would have been just like Massey's wife, who was just like John Forrestall, who is just like George Patton, who was just like, I mean, anyways. You know, there's a There's a pattern, and that's one of the biggest problems that we have is that their high IQ people are really good at noticing patterns. remember Bobby Fisher
Starting point is 08:30:07 he noticed patterns and he noticed patterns so well he had to live the rest of his life in Iceland he's buried there too yeah this is this this is what happens to people who have pattern recognition yeah and Iceland is the size of a medium-sized city
Starting point is 08:30:30 there's like 350,000 400,000 people in the whole country and they got in trouble after they, after 2008, when they got their bankers and said, hey, you can't keep doing that. And right after that, they got their first rabbi. And five days later, that rabbi was in, there was a newspaper article saying Iceland gets their, gets their first rabbi. Five days later, he's back in the newspaper saying Iceland needs to do more, needs to do more for, for migrants. It needs to let more migrants into it. It needs to start letting migrants into his country, into its country.
Starting point is 08:31:10 Well, thank you, Rabbi. We appreciate that. Notice a pattern? Well, it's not just Bobby Fisher, right? Bobby Fisher, one of the highest IQs I recorded at the time, 187. Chris Langen, current highest IQ holder, right? Both, you know, noticed patterns. leave, I can't, I don't know my phone, but I have a really funny newspaper story
Starting point is 08:31:38 headline is one of my backgrounds, and it's like a smartest man alive says that the world is controlled by a criminal cartel of Zionist bankers. And that's funny because Francis Parker Yaki, which was also one of the, one of the smartest IQ is recorded around the time. What is the 30s? That he was in school getting standardized tests. Was it 180 something IQ. So it seems that's, yeah, the smart, it seems like anti-Semitism, or at least noticing, is not
Starting point is 08:32:10 low IQ at all. It's actually high IQ. It's so high that everybody with the highest IQ seems to notice the same shit. And anybody on the timeline telling you that it's a low IQ, like, okay, well, please explain to me how the highest IQ is ever recorded. How come all of these people are saying
Starting point is 08:32:28 the same thing I am that you're trying to tell me as low IQ? Go tell Chris Langan, it's fucking low you and he'll be like nigger i'm the smartest person a lot it's the meme it's the meme of of you have the you have grug and he's saying oh it's it's the jews yep and then the bell goes up it's like no no no no you're you're just jealous and then it comes back down and you go into the 150s and 160s and it's like yeah it's the juice yeah well and i wouldn't i'm not saying i'm a genius I'm not, I don't think. But certainly not any in the Chris Lincoln and Francis Parker-Yaki type territory.
Starting point is 08:33:08 But how can you look at the world? Straight up, tell me, you have a Ministry of Diaspora Affairs. At any time, I try and talk about what's happening to my fellow Scotsman in Scotland, being ethnically replaced, being raped, mass, raped, being brutally killed, being attacked, their church is being burned. Oh, because I'm a white nationalist and an American, that's like a national threat. And, like, my friends can't come see me because DHS will deny their visas. But you have a, you have a Ministry of Diaspora Affairs, and your Denver-based newspaper cares very, very much about and lies
Starting point is 08:34:00 about a program in Amsterdam like well who started it dude who you know only these people could have come up with the term chutzpah
Starting point is 08:34:13 right and when I believe you about you I'm a bad guy right when I believe my ancestors about you I'm a bad guy
Starting point is 08:34:27 it's only when I believe you about my ancestors and believe the people you paid to lie about you about you then I'm okay
Starting point is 08:34:43 but when I read what you have to say and the daily forward says yes Vatican 2 the destruction of the church was brought about by Jewish converts okay I believe you yes abortion is entirely entirely Jewish okay I believe you contraception
Starting point is 08:34:58 entirely Jewish, homosexuality, Jewish, pornography, Jewish. Okay, I believe you. Central Banking, entirely Jewish, Hollywood, entirely Jewish. I believe you. Okay. And I'm the bad guy for, I just read what you write. Dee, Dee, on that note,
Starting point is 08:35:18 D, on that note, you're married, you have children, so I'm going to say this to you, and I'm just going to, again, I'm going to beat the drum that I've been beating, for quite some time now. If your wife is getting ready to go out to dinner with you, and she says,
Starting point is 08:35:36 I think these pants make me look fat, what do you think? Are you going to be the bad guy for lying? Are you going to be the bad guy for agreeing with her? So, I... Both. I mean, the answer to that is yes. So there you go.
Starting point is 08:35:57 again, I'm just, again, I'm noticing patterns and putting paint threads together. Again, there's more of that, again, that's spiritually feminine behavior. That here, I'm telling you all this stuff, okay, I believe you. How dare you believe me? All right.
Starting point is 08:36:13 Then I won't believe you. How dare you not believe me? Exactly. Well, there's no other group. There's no other group that when their spokespeople tell the truth and tell the lie, and tell the lie, where it's just obvious.
Starting point is 08:36:31 You know when they're telling the truth, and you know when they're lying. It's so, it's, it's one of the, it's so obvious. And, you know, you say that, you say that out loud. And it's like, well, that sounds insane. But it's not. It's not. Those who could notice the patterns know when they're telling the truth because it's almost like they're bragging.
Starting point is 08:36:55 Yeah. And when they're lying, it's when they're really, really defensive. It's really odd. It's really odd. And I know, oh, you're supposed to judge people as individuals, although they don't judge themselves as individuals. They judge themselves as individuals, but then they, you know, Sandy Kofax, oh, what a, you know, what a credit he was to the Jewish people. or when they said recently that 83% of Jews support abortion, consider abortion to be a human right.
Starting point is 08:37:36 And it's like, okay, so you're talking as a group right now, but if I say that that's wrong, if I disagree with you, not only am I anti-Semitic, but now you're going to want me to start breaking it down into like, oh, no, well, you need to be judged. These people need to be judges as individuals. But you can't take credit for stuff as a group and then say you need to be judge as individuals. I'm sorry, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 08:38:04 Well, you can't advocate as a group to destroy my country. And then when I try to get together with guys as a group and fight back from that or complain about it or notice it, then I'm the best, like, no, this is not how this works. this like morality requires reciprocity and they will never reciprocate so they can never play the game that's just right they have to be dispossessed of power in every country because in every country that they're that they have any kind of influence in they destroy it look what they're doing to Canada look what they're doing to Australia look what they're doing in New Zealand look what they're doing in Argentina look what they're doing to Europe look what they're doing to South Africa. Name one
Starting point is 08:38:46 place that functions better now than it did in 1940. That's under Jewish influence. You can't. You can't name one. And that's
Starting point is 08:39:07 right. That's if I'm wrong BAP someone in your circle is going to listen to this. Prove it. Prove how these will to power Zionists are in fact the best thing and the coolest thing.
Starting point is 08:39:28 And like, show me where it's working. Because I can't see. Has the world gotten better since World War II or has it gotten worse? Did the good guys win World War II? You know, it's the old Norm MacDonald thing. Isn't it odd that the good guys won every war? Well, what the hell has happened since then? That's the easiest ways.
Starting point is 08:39:55 It's like, okay, so in the 19th century, we had problems in this country. We had a war. Fucking horrible. Some people who know that there was a lot of influence on that war. I have a book right over here of diet. diary by the diary of what he what a Rothschild saw when he came here during during the war and we were we did pretty good in the 19th century we did pretty good up until about world war one and then you know we still had a chance there were still men fighting for this
Starting point is 08:40:35 country through the 1920s and 1930s to take it back to where we to to stop the progress the quote-unquote progress. And then they started another war where they probably killed 40 million people so that all of this progress, all of these gifts that have been given to us, everything that's been done to this society, you know, the World Jewish Congress bragging about all the things that they did, feminism, gay marriage, civil rights act, all of these things that they were on the front lines,
Starting point is 08:41:13 fighting for. And I'm, and you're bragging about it. And I'm not supposed to stand back and go, well, you know what? I judge that we're not better off for all of this. So why'd you do it? Why'd you do it? It always comes back to why. I'm one of those people. He's like, you talk about 9-11. How did that happen? Towers came down, Pentagon. Fine. whatever. Why? Tell me why. I want to know why all these things happen. Why in 2014 do you stage a coup in Ukraine? Why? What? Tell me what how is how did that coup, how does staging that coup better our lives? How did that make us a more cohesive, a better country, a more prosperous country how how are all these things that you're doing how does it make us better how and then you know
Starting point is 08:42:22 now we find out that well we have massad is listening to this is going to i mean they're using from what i've seen recently is people are getting doxed on twitter using software from israel from Israeli intelligence, ADL's using it. Okay. Why? What are you so scared of? I thought you guys were, I thought you, you're the successful ones. You're the ones who are, you're better than us.
Starting point is 08:42:57 Yeah, I mean, you're just, we're just jealous, right? But why? Why this all, why do all this after that? If they're so, if they're so great, it's so much better and so much smarter and the Vietnamese are better than us and the Turkish Americans are better than us and the Indian Americans are better than us and the Japanese and all these other people make more money than the average white person, they're all so much better than us. Why can't we just compete on an even playing field? Right? Because we're losing because that's right, right? Like there's a competition.
Starting point is 08:43:35 Stop giving Indians tax breaks. Stop hiring You know Vietnamese doctors that don't have real credentials Stop importing people You know With an overclass
Starting point is 08:43:55 That are laundering money out of China But if we're all even Right Let's be even or you know i seen recall a document once that said for ourselves and our posterity well i'm that posterity stormy's that posterity charles is that posterity pete's that posterity and you can't have it it's ours
Starting point is 08:44:29 you can't take my kids christmas presents from under my christmas tree they're from my kids fuck off you know you can't take you can't take the thing that says from grandma that was intended to go to their posterity at Christmas time
Starting point is 08:44:51 and take it just because my kids got lots of presents and your kids got none I don't care maybe your grandparents should have been more successful You know, and it is just a resentment It was kind of funny in a sad sort of way Jared Taylor had Dinner
Starting point is 08:45:12 With this Eddie Eddie Quang fellow or something Used to be like big with Vice Media I think we talked about it Pete You know I think he's married to a Jewish He's a weed dealer
Starting point is 08:45:30 He got in trouble To your Shiva Yeah, I went to yeshiva The Asian that went to yeshiva law school Yeah, Shiva law school The Benjamin Dark Cardozo School of Law, right? And he wants to justify like, well, you know, all these other people don't care about
Starting point is 08:45:49 Okay Eddie What if I try to go to Taiwan or China and pretend that I'm Taiwanese? Can I be? Can I be? Rich and powerful and famous in China. Promoting degeneracy in China, the way you got rich and powerful and famous in the United States. Promoting gangster culture and gangster ways of dressing
Starting point is 08:46:17 and dealing drugs because he was a weed dealer. What happens if I go to China and try any of that? I'd be deported so far. Deported. me the best thing what happened to me. I probably followed on a couple fights of stairs
Starting point is 08:46:36 on my way on the way to the airport or I'd just disappear and you'd never see me again. Rightfully so. You know? If you go to Singapore and try that, they'll just kill you.
Starting point is 08:46:56 Because they're a tiny island, they have no resources, they have no room for error. And so they go, hey, yeah, if you're going to make things more difficult in this country, we're just going to, we're just going to make you dance on air for a bit. And then we're going to tell everybody else, like, hey, you don't deal drugs in Singapore.
Starting point is 08:47:14 Is there a perfect sovereign right to do so? But you, but Eddie Wang can come to this country, make it worse. And then when Jared Taylor, whose family has been here since, I don't know, like 16, 20 or something, objects, his objection is, well, you can't object. That's mean. How about go fuck yourself? How about go seek some Canadian health care, as Pete's been saying lately? Jared Taylor has a perfect right to say that he wants this country to be for him and his children because his ancestors are the ones who gave it to him in the first place.
Starting point is 08:47:55 And everybody that's been here since 1965, you're just visiting. and you know why I know you're just visiting because you've never treated it like it's your home what do you do you ruin it you export jobs you send billions of dollars trillions of dollars out of the country you make everything worse
Starting point is 08:48:21 there's trash everywhere you're dealing drugs I made a bunch of crime. This is just a place to make a buck for you. Well, I got nowhere else to go. I'm an American. My ancestors are buried here. I'll be buried here.
Starting point is 08:48:43 My kids will be buried here. You're going to take a bunch of money out of my pocket. Go live like a king. Whatever third world shit hill you're from. And then I'm the bad guy. go fuck yourself well i think um i think we're um i think we're um we delivered a message so i'll give uh do what i do at the end of everyone every one of these um go around the horn and everybody can give their final message if they have one and uh we'll end this because
Starting point is 08:49:21 we're getting right at about two hours so um charles why don't you go first not too much thank you Not too much to say beyond just stepping back to where this all began with the Matt Gett situation and tying threads together. And the only piece of advice or the only offering I would present at this time at the end of this program is I think this is one of the most important reasons. It's good to get right with God and it's good to find a moral center because when you do that, you are far more able to protect yourself. those you love and retain that which you love because if you find that self-respect if you find that self-love and I don't mean it in the narcissistic sense I mean it in as a divine sense if you find that then you cannot be bribed money will will hold very little appeal to you beyond meeting your basic needs you cannot be caught in a honey trap so I would say try and order your
Starting point is 08:50:27 steps to the best of your ability, and your future will be all the brighter and all the safer for it. Thank you for having me on your show, Pete. Of course. Love having you here. Dee. I'll let people know I'm going to be doing a different, a friend of mine is going to be launching a different project.
Starting point is 08:50:51 It's going to be Catholic-focused kind of Catholic version of country. My Numbers don't inquire. Keep an eye out for that. But just repeating what I always repeat at every show, you know, like go to buy Charles's books, support Pete with, you know, via the substack or Patreon or whatever. Because the only people, the only reason I have this opportunity is Pete was brave enough to do it and put his name out there and, and whether the slings and arrows. So if you want more stuff like this, you know, support the people that don't lie to you. So that's all I got to say. Thanks, Steve. Stormy.
Starting point is 08:51:30 To Charles's point, it's a vital importance that a man finds his center. And before you can exert your will on anything else, you need to own your own headspace. If you are not sovereign in your own head, you are not sovereign anywhere. If you can't close your eyes and say, no thoughts. for 60 seconds, then you're not sovereign inside your own head. How could you possibly be sovereign anywhere else? And try it. I bet you can't go 60 seconds. It'll take, probably, you trying it for a week,
Starting point is 08:52:14 two weeks. When you do it, you can go longer. You do it even more, you can go longer still. And you will find a piece and a strength that you're not going to be able to get anywhere else and then like Charles said it doesn't matter what they do to you it doesn't matter what they threaten to take away it doesn't fucking matter right
Starting point is 08:52:40 because you have this place this structure that you are anchored to that they will never understand they'll never be able to take it away from you no matter what they do and when you have that all of the other things that they could take away
Starting point is 08:53:03 just seem absolutely meaningless and pointless so I guess that's all I have to say a man needs to be sovereign in his own head and once he's sovereign there he can be sovereign anywhere well i want to thank uh stormy for coming in and uh covering for hose jose is uh taking a little thanks for having me pietes i really appreciate it of course of course osse taking a little uh taking a
Starting point is 08:53:34 little uh taking a little hiatus to deal with some stuff and um you know pray for him pray for all of us and until the next time thought crime syndicates out take care god bless

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