The Pete Quiñones Show - The Thought Crime Syndicate (The 2026 Episodes) - Part 4

Episode Date: May 3, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone. Thought Crime Syndicate is back. And we haven't even talked about anything, a subject that we want to talk about. But let's do this. Since Jose has been making the rounds on pretty much every show, because he's, you know, the Venezuela expert. Jose, what are you, what's on your mind? really just how chaotic things are getting these days and how the political class really isn't doing much to push back against the post-World War II order on both foreign policy fronts and also domestic fronts, whether it's fully restricted, immigration and actually getting rid of the civil rights revolution rolling that back completely and I just see a reversion to new conservative tropes or just Reaganite tropes and just a completely
Starting point is 00:01:13 distracted government and also where I'm definitely looking with interest of what's happening in Minneapolis as well so you have a Jewish mayor in Jacob Fry that is just calling for people to abolish any form of immigration enforcement.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So we're just seeing a breakdown and that's one thing I'm more concerned with is just the fact that there's no real serious action from DC or whatever to
Starting point is 00:01:52 implement meaningful reforms to fully roll back some of like the stuff, the legislation and other policies that have hurt the U.S. for decades, if not a century or so. And that's what I'm mostly kind of talking about. And obviously like the whole Venezuela thing, I just gave my perspective on that and how I just think that really, if you want to actually have any form of legitimate security and restrained foreign policy, you have to end the, invade the world, invite the world consensus that has governed us since end of World War II, and that requires a thorough overthrow of the ruling class, because frankly, these people,
Starting point is 00:02:40 they have very different priorities from the people that have elected people like Donald Trump in office and other politicians that claim to be populace. So that's what one theme I'm trying to convey here. do you think that they're with Jacob Frye doing what he's doing and then you know there's a bunch of right wing Jews that are calling for border control quote unquote right wing Jews I mean these are left wing left wing anti-trumpers you know just a couple of years ago do you think there is like a split in in judah right now between some on the left and some on the right stipulating that you know you even if they don't, even if they, they aren't conspiring together, when one does, when one side does something, it always seems to work out for the other side. Strange how that happens.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, I think what is happening, well, I mean, if you look at David From, for example, he's actually historically said stuff like, hey, Democrats, you guys need to stop pushing all this open, border stuff so radically or else you're just going to create a backlash. But there's always a bait and switch because it's like it's like the civil rights revolution that once that whole process was initiated after let's say like eight to 10 years and the black golems start flirting with pro-Palestine stuff. They'll be like the organized jury will be like, okay, we need to
Starting point is 00:04:19 pump the brakes on this and just consolidate our gains because we have golems that could potentially turn against us. And I mean, in the case with organized, with action of organized jewelry that's talking about border control, in many respects, they're kind of doing that for tactical reasons, because when you just have an insanely open border for more than like multiple decades,
Starting point is 00:04:41 you're going to provoke a backlash. And the best way to consolidate those gains after you've let 30 to 50 million illegal aliens in is to at least concede, shutting down the border, but then start talking about legal migration, opening up the airways to so-called skilled migrants, whether it's like
Starting point is 00:05:05 South Asian Pigeets or striver class West African migrants, like those types. And that's what I think is happening because there's always a poison pill with what they're proposing. They may concede ground on saying, okay, we'll shut down the border and stop border crossers, but then they'll then open up a new front. to replace elites or aspiring elites with new dolombs.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Because if you look at, for example, a lot of young professionals under the age of 40, whether they're right-wing or the left-wing, they are starting to question jury, especially this is very pronounced, especially on the Democrat, liberal or progressive side, where any pundit below the age of 40 is going to be at least pro-Palestine. So now they have to just start directly electing Jewish representatives. You see this especially at the state level with governors that have disproportionate Jewish representation and even senators where they can't even trust their golems anymore. And on the right, it's also starting to happen too,
Starting point is 00:06:14 where the amount of Judeo skepticism has risen mediocratically since October. October 7th. So the organized jury is engaging in multiple rear-regard actions across the political spectrum because there is a torrential wave of anti-Semitism, Judeo-Scepticism, anti-Zionism, forming. Everybody else got anything? Oh, it's just richly deserved. I mean, what's your name, the absolute psychopath from New York state used to be the UN ambassador. Or Stephanie At least
Starting point is 00:06:51 Stepney She stepped down From the governor's office Or the governor's race Because a Jew's running Right Like there is no Right
Starting point is 00:07:02 Everyone knows that And you wrote about it recently Pete Like everyone knows that we live in effectively What is it pedocracy From Assad What other conclusion can you come to? Yeah you know It's rather difficult
Starting point is 00:07:18 when you see, you know, Jose's work on, you know, just exactly how, um, you know, the Venezuelan opt was probably the people who are going to be most, most benefit from it are going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:33 what, what Jose loves to call panjuda. The, then you look here and it's like, okay, we need remigration. Like yesterday. and it's a fix everything switch the kids have been naming about yeah you you look at ice and you're like okay
Starting point is 00:07:56 this isn't what's going to do it what's going to do it is basically arresting arresting mayors arresting governors arresting judges and taking away the protections from these people so that they remigrate on their own yeah i hate to say it this way that they don't feel safe being here once you you see that and you're like okay that would be a great thing it's like okay and then we're still occupied right well yeah just just two things real quick and then I'll shut up and let Charles and does they talk more um Tyler Oliver God bless him did that I mean you all four of us knew about curious Joel right in New York and there's all kinds of other acid you know hatcheries all over America where these people don't work and they and they don't contribute anything and
Starting point is 00:08:47 And of course, the Somali fraud is a thing. To be a citizen of a republic from all the way back in ancient India where there was all white to, you know, modern times, you know, to being of America, to be a citizen of the republic, you had to basically fulfill three or four criteria. You had to be a member of the tribe. You had to, like the same blood as everyone else. Occasionally, you could let it in a foreigner, but it was exceptional. You had to obey the law. you had to pay taxes and you had to serve the state in some fashion, whether there was military or something else. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:24 All of these people, whether the Somalis, Haitians, Cidic Jews, lots of different types of Latinos, they don't make these criteria. They need to have their citizens stripped out and if you're a public charge, you need to go home. and the thing to do isn't these, you know, four show ice operations. The thing to do is tax remittances at 90% to remove any welfare from these people and to throw the people who employ them in jail, all of which is against the law now.
Starting point is 00:10:05 We have public charge laws. We have remittance tax on the books. It's just like 1% right now or something. And it's already illegal to employ illegal. aliens. Once you start doing this, they'd all go home on their own. Oh, I guess the free ride's over. We'll go home. We didn't like it here anyway. It's too cold. It's too white. These people complain when we play regatona three in the morning as ours is our natural want. You know, I mean, like, they don't like it here. That's why they try and turned everywhere they are into where
Starting point is 00:10:41 they're from. Yes. Well, and as you said, the, the, and I'll use, your words and I understand we need to use them carefully. You do need to make them feel unsafe. That's not necessarily meaning threaten them with violence, but it is cutting out all their support. Remember, one of the most punishing things you can do to a man imprisoned is put him in solitary confinement. That will drive people crazy and you're not doing him any physical violence. I know I'm speaking very technically here that is still emiscerating somebody. It is still causing one to suffer. But that's the whole point. And as somebody who has worked in the field for close to a decade, just tried to get back in, succeeded in getting back in, and jumped out
Starting point is 00:11:31 in record time because I saw what an absolute dumpster fire it is. The American public would be shocked, appalled, and up in arms if they witnessed what I did just this week. But I'll pass over that. lied over that for the moment. And I'll say the drum that I have been banging for decades since I first came up with it in 1998 is remember most of the world views America, not as a country, but as a strip mall. They come here, get what they want and send stuff home and then eventually go home to retire. And they use all that money to live like kings wherever they're from. I'm not sure if I said this when you and me were speaking, Pete, on one broadcast, one of your live broadcasts, we were talking about immigration. But one of the biggest times for self-induced remigration in the United States, the biggest time of the year is around Christmas.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And why is that? It's because all the South Americans go home to see family. And when's the highest rate of illegal immigration again? Right after Christmas. so they can come back here and understand most of these people's money when they earn it a significant portion of it goes back to foreign countries that's the whole point so as d said all you have to do is take laws that are already on the books and enforce them maybe maybe turn the dial up on them a little bit maybe but i would say one admittedly is it would have to be cranked up to 11 but
Starting point is 00:13:10 But it's still not changing any law in and of itself. Just a, an application of it would be just the remittances. Sure, tax them up to 90%. You would be shocked at how many people would leave just because of that. Because, again, this is a strip mall. You don't have to escort these people out. You just have to make them unable to afford the goods in it. They'll leave themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:37 There's nothing interesting about a strip mall except what you can. can get from it. And if you can't get anything from it, there's no need to go there. And you'll find these steps in and of themselves will start to have the problem solve itself. Now again, there will come other necessities, I'll say. I will absolutely say that. But the easy start is simply use what we have. For example, where are all our sedition laws? Why aren't they being utilized? all these mayors talking about i find a bitterly ironic and humorously ironic that a lot of these people that in any other context if we were discussing the civil war they would call the confederates traitors betrayers disloyal and they got what they deserve by getting stomped out by the north
Starting point is 00:14:30 for wanting to separate for wanting to do their own thing and for denying federal troops yet in the last 10 days alone, they themselves have said, forgo any kind of federal government intervention. Get rid of them. We don't want them here. They don't belong here. Fight them. Fight them. I mean, I know no one here is surprised by their hypocrisy. No one is. And I'm not saying, see, look, look, see, they're hypocrites. That's not my point. My point is to simply say that they know they're guilty of it. They just know no one will punish them. And we need to punish them. And I'm not even saying punish them extra legally. I'm saying use the power that we have. And the irony is, and I'll close here and let somebody else take the floor. The irony is the real reason Trump is
Starting point is 00:15:23 as popular as he is, is he's the first president in my lifetime to actually use one, one hundredth of the power that he was given to change things for the better. Now, we can say that he didn't do enough. We can say that he's doing it for Israel. We can put a million qualifiers on it, but that does not change the fact that he is the first one that has at least dipped his toe in the usage of executive power for the benefit of a significant portion of the native stock of this country, the European stock of this country. It's just talking about it, about talking about doing it, not even actually doing it, but just talking about it is what has these people freaked out and ready to commit treason and ready to commit insurrection.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Because the last person to actually try and do anything, you know, they impeached him and he resigned. And that was half a century ago. So for half a century, Donald Trump was the only person. to actually even talk about using the powers of the federal government for the actual citizens of this country. And that was enough just talking about it, not doing it, not cracking down, not, you know, killing people in the street and whatever all these other people are talking about. Just talking about like actually doing his job and these people are freaked out. Right. And there's a reason for that, D, and we both know what that reason is. The reason is because once that spicket turns on, the flow is only going to get faster and harder.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's not going to turn off. Because once people start realizing, wait a minute, we can just do things to use the colloquialism. And not only that, once you start convincing the civic nationalists, yes, they're a plague, I know. But as I'm very fond of quoting, our list of allies grows thin. Once we get the civic nationalists to realize, wait a minute, these are already existing laws, we can just use them. These are all already illegal. As I pointed out on Twitter, not long ago, maybe a month ago, Tops, which I guess is a long time for the Internet, but not long ago to me, I pointed out, and people were misunderstanding my point, but I pointed out, illegal immigration is not just hopping over a fence. Did you lie on a form?
Starting point is 00:18:00 You're an illegal immigrant. Did a company lie for you? You're an illegal immigrant. Did you fake a relationship for somebody to come in here? That person is an illegal immigrant. We're not talking about just jumping offense. If we actually just used the law where it says, if you're lying on this form, then you are denied the benefit. I promise you there wouldn't be more than 2,000 people.
Starting point is 00:18:28 of Indian of Indian nationality here wouldn't even be 2000 in the whole country because either some company lied about lied for them some family member lied for them or some combination thereof lied for them just that alone they lied about their college college college degrees they're exactly they lied about their educational credentials people forget that again this is a drum i've been banging for a long time illegal Immigration is not just somebody swam across the border. Somebody jumped a fence. Illegal immigration is way bigger than that.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You would be amazed, amazed how many people you could legally just say, oh, we investigated your forum and found out this company didn't need you. Boop, your citizenship's gone. Your I-551's gone. Your H-1B's gone, et cetera. All of it. It's gone. Get on the plane.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Go. I think the will is there, and I think the will is there amongst the people. But it just seems like at every turn, the administration is not willing to cross the Rubicon and do what needs to be done. The remittances thing is the easiest one. I mean, they could do that by, he could do that by executive order tomorrow. the but you know but the the problem is is crossing the rubicon and also being somebody who worries about your own legacy and you know there there really is the opinion amongst a lot of people and i'm pretty sure I share it. I mean, sometimes I'll be like, eh, that Trump wants everyone to like him.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Like, even those shitty people that he grew up with in New York City, you know, the shit lives and, you know, the Jews, he wants them all to like him. And he doesn't seem to want to take that final step. He's willing to go and fuck around in another country because no judge is stopping him. No, you know, no, no Jew is saying, don't do that. He's willing to threaten Iran, but he's not willing to do what needs to be done with someone like Tim Wals or Jacob Frye or just the people on the street. I saw a video, I saw a video today from Minneapolis. Guy was walking down the street with a, he had a hoodie on that had an American flag on the back of it.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And like, there was just a crowd that bullied him into taking it off. This wasn't a white dude. This was like obviously an immigrant of some sort. Some sort. And he eventually said, you know, yeah. I mean, they broke into an ice vehicle the other day and started. all a rifle. On the guy.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Well, and they only found the guy because he's got face tattoos. This is there. I saw a video of a guy who was just driving an SUV. He's apparently working for the press. He got surrounded by a bunch of shitlibs. And they basically bullied him like, well, you need to rent another car. You need to drive something else.
Starting point is 00:22:15 You can't drive an SUV run here. Look at all the. This is pathological empathy to the point of like suicide. And we can't live with. these people. And the fact that the average person understands this and then the government doesn't. And I'll go one step further. It's not just Tim Walls or Jacob Frey or Kathy Hokel or what's the new governor of Virginia, whatever, like Spanberger. Like it's, it's, it's, it's hot wheels. It's it's, it's Greg Abbott. It's Ron DeSantis. They're just as complicit as these other guys,
Starting point is 00:22:56 because they're not doing their job. You know, if you took the Constitution's claim seriously about providing a federal form of government, then you wouldn't let illegal immigrants vote in your state. And you would complain about non-citizens voting. And you would do something about auditing your Medicaid books or your public schools and making sure that taxpayer dollars did not go to people who were there illegally.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And yet, I guarantee you, without even looking, I guarantee you an audit of the state of Texas could find $5 billion being spent on illegal immigrants in Texas easily. Oh, absolutely, no doubt. And not even like anchor babies who were born here as citizens and technically, no, like, I guarantee you there are. easily Texas Texas is going to be is going to be Canada Texas is going to be Ontario because they're just
Starting point is 00:24:04 Indians are just flocking in yeah right and you know they're they're putting up their fucking you know their demon their statues and they're their demonic temple you know
Starting point is 00:24:20 temple you know temple of doom well And just because this is my wheelhouse and kind of talked about a little bit, Pete, if you had a guess, what would you say like the worst two types of environment to like operate any kind of construction project are? Environment? I mean, you saw weather? Like climate, like.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, yeah, climate. I mean, I would say cold, freezing snow and probably. like desert conditions. Well, you're right on the first one. You're wrong on the second. And then the two worst are the Arctic and sub-Arctic and Antarctic. And the worst, second worst is the jungle. And for lots of reasons that I won't get into here,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I have experience operating in both those. I've been working in and around the mining and energy sectors for a long, long time in and around. And all this tough talk about, oh, we're going to take over Greenland. Like, you think the Danes don't like money? You think they like just having these 50,000, 60,000 Eskimos that do nothing but soak up welfare and molest their sisters? You think, like, they, the Danes, right?
Starting point is 00:25:51 They couldn't put together a mine. They couldn't. Of course they could. it's just really hard. Everything runs off diesel. Diesel turns to jelly when it's negative 50 outside. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:06 metal fatigue. You know, people can only be out for a short amount of time. Everyone's got to be bundled up like the Michelin Man. You show even a flash of skin, you freeze is off. It's fucking awful. And you've,
Starting point is 00:26:20 you've lived in the South. I don't need to tell you, right? Imagine Houston, but like worse. And if you're in Venezuela, everything rusts in like no time at all. Everything rots that the, you know, moss and it just makes everything very, very difficult. Food spoils, it's without AC, it's just impossible.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And, you know, oh, Venezuela is a failing state. Well, the only place that they don't have a functioning electrical grid. Well, because you sanctioned them in Siemens, the only guy that actually, the only people that actually make the transformers that a modern electrical grid requires, you said that they couldn't buy any. So, yeah, they have a failing electrical grid. They couldn't afford maintenance on their oil infrastructure for the last 10 years because Jews sanctioned them. Because, you know, Hugo Chavez said some mildly critical things about Jews after they killed a bunch of kids. And Jose can speak to that more than I can. I mean, strong allure
Starting point is 00:27:32 everyone to follow his substack and listen to all the stuff, different stuff he's been talking about because he's been burning up the airways lately. But, you know, we're doing all this stuff, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I guess the one side benefit when Trump destroys NATO, but we're not sovereign over Baltimore. We're not sovereign over Minneapolis. We're not sovereign over Texas, Houston, Texas. We're not sovereign over New York. city. Why do we
Starting point is 00:28:02 fucking care if Newk Greenland is Danish? Who fucking cares? It's insane. Baltimore's, what, 40 minutes down the road from Washington, D.C. And it's not an American city. Well, I mean, that's exactly what I've been saying ever since the Venezuela thing. I've gotten people say, oh, the only reason I'm like, well, what the fuck are we doing with Venezuela is because I used to be a libertarian.
Starting point is 00:28:45 The libertarian priors or what is, yeah, when I was a libertarian, I was saying, yeah, why the fuck are we doing this for Zog? That's exactly what I was saying. Fucking retards. Yeah. Yeah, another one, you know, another one is like, oh, yeah, I just love brown people. I deport every fucking person. I would deport everyone, you know, I'm a little darker than, than most, but not really. I mean, anyone who's ever met me has been like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:20 But they're all gone. Venezuelans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Indians, Filipinos. They're all gone in a heartbeat. How the fuck does Venezuela? What does Venezuela have anything to do with that? I need to cheerlead Venezuela to prove that I care more about this country, that I care as much about this country as somebody else. How about you go fuck yourself?
Starting point is 00:29:51 I think it's funny that people say that about you, yet how many times have we said on this program, we should be the darkest people in your neighborhood. Like how many times have we, how many times have we made that joke? And how many times have I said, and I think that you and D have laughed and agreed with it, is like, okay, we'll take 60 days of you peeking out your blinds at us to make sure that we're not up to no good. We'll take 60 days of you going to slowly driving by the house to make sure we're keeping the area clean. Okay, you got 60 days, we'll deal with it.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And then after that, we're wanting, you know, it's okay. Just leave us be. We're just like you. But how many times have we made that joke? Two, three, easily on this program? Easily? Dude, I've had my policy. I've had my politics.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I'm sorry, but yes. I've had my politics attacked. I've had my character attacked. I've had my Catholicism attacked. All of this. All of it. Because, because, you know, I don't want Paul Singer, you know, to have billions more than he has already. I want to strip him of every fucking dollar he has and send them to the fucking desert.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Well, he should be in Leavingworth. He destroyed Sydney, Nebraska. I think it was Sydney, Nebraska. Yes, yes, yes. Tucker did a story about it. Like, this is a man who's malicious. He hates Americans. He promotes sodomy.
Starting point is 00:31:18 He uses his ill-gotten wealth to undermine other nations. He's, you know, if doing something bad in another country, it's grounds to like round people up and take all their shit why can't vladimir putin or zijing ping be like paul singer is a bad person who does bad things and so we're going to like arrest him right like if that's the standard we're saying he's the real sovereign yeah well he came and um fucking jonathan uh greenblad at the adl right like if you know conspiracy against free speech johnny can William Brad just like admitted to it. Like this is not.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And to your, to one quick point, Pete, you know, there is under Catholic just war theory, and I'll be talking to doing that about this next week on my show. No intervention we've undergone in the entire 21st century passes the test. The Afghanistan one kind of sort of did at the beginning, but you have to have a defined goal of like, what's the goal of this war? Is it just like show up and just like randomly kill people? Like that's not just. There is no, you know, okay, so under Catholic principles, like none of these wars are acceptable.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Under, you know, libertarian or under, you know, constitutional, like this isn't, like, where's Congress? Did they pass a law? Did they declare a war? No. Okay. So we're just going to randomly kill a bunch of people because Jews want us to? Like, under no circumstance, can I think of a single good reason other than like team of America World Police type shit of like America, fuck yeah, that this is any kind of good idea.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm like, that was supposed to be a satire, guys. And then, and then they want to be serious policy proposal. And now that we're going to war, like every war is not only for Jews, but going war like Jews, we're going to war like Jews. Then it's like, oh, well, you know, you got to cheer on, cheer on when your enemy, you know, make fun of your enemy. write down to, right down and then dance on their grave. That's not what white men do.
Starting point is 00:33:37 That's not what Europeans do. That's what Jews do. You're acting like a fucking Zionist. You're acting like the Jews that made t-shirts for, you know, shooting pregnant women in Gaza. That's never been what white people, the way white Europeans celebrated their war victories. They went home and they went home,
Starting point is 00:34:01 they celebrated it, but they also respected their enemies. And it's hard to respect your enemies when your enemies are not deserving of respect. But still, you have to have a fucking higher standard. And just declaring anyone your enemy, I mean, like literally, like, I had people arguing with me saying, oh, you like commies now. Are we still fighting the Cold War? is this what thomas says he goes to the military it doesn't even really work anymore because it's still fighting the cold war are we still people still fighting the cold war is was maduro is maduro a
Starting point is 00:34:41 commie or why isn't the communist party of venezuela like 100% behind him how come they think he's a piece of shit so i don't i don't like maduro i don't really i shouldn't even know he exists in the first place. But they have resources. Jews want resources. Jews control our government. Those resources have to be ours, quote unquote, hours. And I'm, I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to, rah, rah, look at our foreign policy and everything.
Starting point is 00:35:22 While everything's turning to shit here? no motherfuckers until you get shit fixed here you can't this is this is the whole thing that i've always said i say you people are like well what our country needs to be taken back what can i do first thing you got to do is fix your house you can't expect to go out into your neighborhood and fix your neighborhood if there's something wrong with it until your house is fixed you got to get your shit in order before you can start looking outwards And as a country, sure, we fucked up. Outsour shit to China.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You know, basically allowed the Jews to declare war on Russia, who should be our natural ally. Yeah, there's a lot of problems there. But those are problems that should be handled diplomatically. The military shit should be happening here. Yeah, sorry to say. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, no, I agree 100%. As a matter of fact, that's what I've been talking with. And I won't drop names or anything. But that's what I've been talking with federal officers and military guys.
Starting point is 00:36:32 It's one conversation that keeps coming up repeatedly. And I'm going to draw on these point as well, you know, leaning on, I can't speak personally of it, but leaning on governors not doing their jobs and state officials not doing their jobs. A lot of guys in law enforcement, federal and local and the military, they're all lately very much thinking about. their oath. Specifically, federal, where it says protecting the United States from enemies foreign and domestic, foreign and domestic. I took that oath years ago. I took it again recently, and I take it very, very seriously. And a lot of our guys are like, hmm, that's my oath. That's the oath I swore, and that's the oath I want to uphold. And we've got plenty of domestic enemies. aren't they being officially identified? Why aren't we being mobilized to get them? Because again, I'll go back to the point I raised earlier. I am not saying do anything extra judiciously.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That is not what I am saying. I'm not calling for that on this public program. I am saying we already take that oath. There is already a definition of domestic enemies. Okay. So, let's go to war with them. let's do it i i agree with you pete that's exactly where our arms our forces should be deployed against domestic enemies i agree with one of the points that were that was raised before about how you don't really need to do some intricate restructuring of the government or implement a novel system to fix these problems because ultimately we already have the laws and the books the bureaucracy and the mechanisms in place to get things right. The issue is the one of who is actually the sovereign,
Starting point is 00:38:28 and under the one sovereign principle, what we see is it's organized jury. It's a hostile sovereign that has very different types of interests in mind. And sometimes they may use clever marketing and other strategies to enlist the resources and assistance of Gentiles, but they ultimately are going to a, different destination from us. And that's the big challenge is to effectively topple this sovereign that is a domestic threat for sure. And that's how you set things right because you don't need
Starting point is 00:39:05 some of these problems aren't that complicated to begin with him. There's no need to reinvent the wheel, especially when there are plenty of like anti-terror legislation on the books, anti-racketeering and all that to bust up these NGO networks and other bad actors that promote mass migration, never anything worse, cultural degeneracy, and other social maladies. So, yep, you have to get rid of these hostile actors effectively. Well, aren't all these transnational drug gangs already designated terrorists? like Trend de Araagua and
Starting point is 00:39:46 the Mexican cartels and correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they're all already designated and so every dude with a face tattoo that says I am part of a transnational gang of killers why can't you just be like oh hey they looks like a terrorist I believe some of them are I mean my I will confess outright
Starting point is 00:40:05 my knowledge is woefully woefully ancient But I know groups like Los Zatos and others were, yes. And how hard would it be to just classify them as such and then round them up? Oh, well, that would be easy. I mean, they're committing terrorism. They're killing people for political reasons in Mexico. They're killing people for political reasons in the United States.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's not difficult. Right. And again, once again, you and me were saying very similar things, if not the same, which is, that's my whole point. Just all we have to do, and thank you, Jose, for the support. Like, all we have to do is use what we have on the books. All we have to do is just get somebody to have the courage to say, X is now classified as a terrorist group.
Starting point is 00:40:56 X is now classified as a domestic enemy. Y is now classified as a domestic enemy. That's it. And then you just start moving. I know it sounds like I'm over there. oversimplifying things, but I'm really not. I'm really not. Look at what they do. Again, look at what, look at what the FBI has been doing to citizens. Look at what they did in January 6th. These aren't even people that were officially classified as anything. They were simply arrested and throwing
Starting point is 00:41:27 in prison. And did anybody get punished for that? No, nobody got punished for that. And I mean, why exactly? Because they just used the powers they had. They just found the loopholes they had. Our enemies are willing to do it. We don't even have to cheat. Just play by the same rules. Say, okay, we found a way to make you prosecutable. We found a way to imprison you. We're going to do it. That's it. That's all there is to it. But as you said, Pete, maybe Trump just wants to be liked. And that's a problem. I can understand the human compulsion wanting to be liked. I want to be liked. I want all of your listeners to like me. But that's not a reality. That's not going to happen. And I'm certainly not going to sacrifice my principles to be liked. Do I want them all
Starting point is 00:42:14 to like me? Sure. But am I going to change myself to be liked? No. And I mean, and I'm a nobody. Who am I? If I have wielded power, that would be even worse to be want to be liked to change myself, to change my course of action, to change my point. I got to disagree with you, Charles. I don't want these people to like me okay yeah right well i said pete's listeners i didn't say i didn't say everybody i said i want to pete's listeners to let's fair but but these people you know the people complaining about the the freedom of of you know nicole good and she deserved no Nicole good was bad actually and it's a positive it is a positive good that she got got because she was an enemy of all decent people of white people of civilization of america
Starting point is 00:43:04 of pick your thing. This woman was an enemy of it. And the and the true and you still you still don't have to celebrate your enemy's deaths. That's what Jews do. I'm not, I'm not going to like dance on our grave and celebrate. I'm just not going to be upset when bad people have been bad things happen to bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Exactly. And the people who want to complain about, well, you're a bootlicker now and you're going to grow up. Grow up. This is not a game where, like, oh, Pete beat me at chess, and so I got to buy him a beer. This is, do we have a country or not? Is there a civilization or not? Are we on the verge of nuclear war? Now, maybe it's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Maybe it's crazy. Maybe it's just some old boomer nut job. But Tucker Carlson interviewed Sergei Karadanov, who was apparently some sort of political in Russia, and maybe Jewish, I don't know. talking about how if the Ukraine war doesn't end, Russia is going to nuke Germany and England. That invokes Article 5. That means worldwide global thermonuclear war. And as us children of the 80s will remember, the only way to win is not play. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like this is not fucking a game. Okay. Vladimir Putin, bad guy, killer. Say whatever you want about him. He's not a fool. And he's serious. You do not get appointed KGB of Colonel of the KGB in East Germany in 1987 by being a nice guy. You get there by being a serious, serious dude.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And his country was in the dumps in 1999 and 2000. And he brought it back to where it's one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Moscow is the biggest, nicest white city in the world. And if this Sergei guy who was on Tucker, and I strongly urge everyone to listen to Tucker's monologue, it was fantastic about why, I think it was deeply deeply wise what Tucker had to say. But if that's what actual Russians are thinking, they have the world's biggest nuclear stockpile. They have a country that spans like 10 time zones. They have all of natural resources in the world. Not some of them, all of them.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Why are we letting a bunch of resentful Stettel Jews who are ass mad about a program from 1648 drag us into a war that might destroy the whole world? If you don't understand what time it is and that there's no living with people who are more upset about Vladimir Putin defending actual Russians in the Dombas, then their neighbors getting killed by drunk Mexicans and that they care more about the rights of Somalis to steal taxpayer money than little English girls who get raped by foreigners. There is no living with these people and they cannot have power and they cannot vote and they cannot have any responsibility for anything in the public.
Starting point is 00:46:44 They can't be in government, they can't serve on juries, They can't be teachers. They can't be in the media. They have to be rooted out, root and branch and resticated, as Charles Haywood says. They need to be picking turnips in Nebraska. Yeah, but that's, I mean, what you're missing is that we took out a Latin American dictator. So, you know, what do you, what do you ask Matt about? I mean, like literally, I mean, like, literally, I mean, people, it's like,
Starting point is 00:47:22 I said this and privately people are telling me I'm right. These people have like, you know, especially the ones who are like, weren't even of age for Trump number one. They're like they've never had a win in their lives politically. And they see this as a win and it's an extent. And they like treat it as an extension of them. Like, like somehow they won something. No. No, the occupied government. The occupiers won something. Tell me what you won. Well, our Paul Seeger's bank account won something.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, well, we're safer. Safer from what? Cocaine came through, cocaine came through, that's the main thing that came through Venezuela that may have been facilitated by Venezuela. okay you know where mosaic cocaine's going to new york city washington dc los angeles all the shitload places do you think they're going to do without their cocaine all they did was switch distributors but yay you got your win you got yay i mean i've seen this fucking i'm so old i've seen this movie over and fucking over again. It's like, you know, it's like now, oh, well, Iran, we'll have regime change in Iran, and then, you know, we'll have, what?
Starting point is 00:49:00 I've heard this before. There are people like celebrating this who were like completely against Bush's wars. Oh, no, but this is different. This is in our hemisphere with an occupied government, right? These people think that like, I mean, has it the quote unquote deep state, the administrative state, has it been dismantled? No. No. Just as Charles.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It's 10 times worse than it was in 2001. I mean, this is ridiculous. There are people like, you know, who they believe that because they know somebody who works in the administration or. they have people that are talking to people in the administration, that the government works for them. I trust people in the administration. I am not at all, at all, thinking that, oh, you know, because I know some, I know a couple people in high places that the government's working for, the government's working for me. Are you fucking, how retarded do you have to be to believe that you, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:20 may know somebody who's going up to Washington, D.C. and talking to people that you're in charge, that they're working for you. That's, you're a child, if you believe that. And it's childish thinking. And you need to grow up. Because this is what I'm hearing. Don't disrespect Trump. He's the commander in chief. Okay. And if you're 25 years old. Do you know the thing, do you know the things that I've, does that mean I have to take back, you know, like calling Obama the N word for eight years? Because he was the commander in chief. Grow the fuck up. Leave your fucking house.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Kiss a girl. Well, Pete, I don't take political advice from, from pacifists and I don't do social advice from girls from a dude who's never talked to girl out of her underwear. So for most people, this would probably just like, if you have. and meet that basic standard of competence, I'm just not going to talk to you or take you seriously. But if you're 25 years old and you're desperate for Trump to, you know, to win one, you need to understand three things about Donald Trump. One, as Pete said, he wants everyone to like him.
Starting point is 00:51:46 So the way you get him to do things you want is not like him. He treats his enemies better than he treats his enemies better than he treats his. friends. Look at what we did to Jeff Sessions in the first term. Look at what we did to Marjorie Taylor Green in the second term. You know, this is not a man that is loyal, is a great friend. Now, everything's a business transaction with this guy. So you treat him like an enemy. You constantly say, that was nice. Now give me more. Okay. Second, I sympathize very deeply with, you know, you're Zuma kids who were born in the late 90s or early 2000s, and you've never known a functioning sane society.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I mean, I'm old, so I remember one. But if you want that back, if you, you know, want 80s vibes back and, you know, PIPVipers and America and whatever, the first thing you need to do isn't support Donald Trump. It's support the American. that are getting screwed by Donald Trump. Yet gas is a little bit cheaper, great. Woo. It was only minorly bank breaking when I had to fill up my truck.
Starting point is 00:53:25 There's not going to be a solution out of Washington. Because Obama and then Biden after him purged the entire federal service of anybody who was remotely competent or had the right ideas. And Trump did nothing about it. Trump should have fired everybody above colonel. Colonel in above should have all just been fired, but he didn't. He left those people in. And what did they do?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Nothing. Because they're on the team. Every federal agency is full of people. We had someone in the Secret Service betray the vice president for Christ sakes. A fucking an immigrant. Yeah. They have immigrants protecting the vice president and you're trusting. the plan the fuck is wrong with you well who do you think runs us c i s the immigration and naturalization
Starting point is 00:54:36 service now who do you think runs that that's all foreign born border patrols almost all foreign born yeah border patrols full of mexicans yeah they get that they they are they are they are the it is the fox guarding the henhouse well and the judges right we live in it we live in a we live in a jewish oligarchy, but to the extent that we have a formal government structure, it's all a criteria. And of the, I was talking with someone who's in a position to know, I'll just say that. Something like at least 20% of our federal inmates are illegal immigrants that have committed like violent, you know, like murder and other violent crimes, right?
Starting point is 00:55:21 So you're a foreigner who commits a violent felony American soil. You should just be executed. But the judges who would hear that case, they are at least 50% foreigners and women. Very often, foreign women. You think that you think that Judge Laquanda Johnson from Jamaica, you think she's going to, like, render a sane verdict? Or is she going to be like, well, he needs a pat on the head. And maybe he needs to be told how to be American. And in America, we don't like rape, kill, and eat it, not necessarily in that order.
Starting point is 00:56:03 you know, innocent 10-year-old kids. I never forget it. I was talking with Charles a couple months ago, or like last year. There was a, the governor of Oklahoma, whatever his name is. He's like the worst Republican, the worst Republican governor in America. Are you talking about Stitt?
Starting point is 00:56:26 Right. He committed the sentence of a guy who committed, like literally a cannibal murderer, and then commuted the sentence, black guy, that guy got out and then like committed murder again or something like that. It was some awful, awful thing.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I can't remember exactly the details, but it was stuck in my memory because it was so terrible. Okay. This is an ostensible Republican. Trump's bragging about all the first step back. Oh, look at all these criminals that let out of jail. How many people have been killed in America? It's not none by all the criminals that Donald Trump let out
Starting point is 00:57:05 because he wanted Negroes to vote for him. And did they vote for him? No. But he's always chasing them. you know as ron mackaday put it recently where's the stuff that the evangelical white christians who vote for don't trump get like they're the they're the only demographic that's loyal to him why what did they get what what what's what's what's what's what's in it for them where's the patronage if you want my support where's the fucking patronage yeah because the other side the other side
Starting point is 00:57:40 they get patronage yeah why isn't pete running a think tank for a million dollars. No matter who you vote for, you get Jonathan Greenblatt's agenda. A hundred percent correct. Thank you, Jose, for putting it much more succinctly than I could. Just an addendum to the woods rule. That's a good one. And apparently, laying out the reality that was just laid out last year and the reason
Starting point is 00:58:16 why people voted for Trump is blackpilling. When you put it on the line and say, you know, I voted for Trump because I thought Trump would be better than Kamala. Pretty much, end of story. That's it. Figure it I had a better chance of no one breaking down my door with Trump than, um, than with Kamala.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Questionable nowadays, considering, who the faction that won out that was that was warring for his attention but um all the things you know like um oh there are no epstein files oh it's the democrats made it up it's a democrat hoax oh there are epstein files i mean garyl cooper said something once that i maybe the smartest thing he ever said. If when Jeffrey Epstein died in his cell, Americans didn't march on Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:59:27 and do whatever needed to be done to end this government, no one's coming to save you. Because that should have told you, Americans are not in charge of the government. And you can just look at this administration and be like, I don't think Americans are in charge of this government. There's some paperwork Americans. There are some fake dual loyalty, but we also know dual loyalty just means one loyalty.
Starting point is 01:00:03 They're only, as Ben Shapiro said, his loyalty to this country ends when they stop being loyal to when this country stops being loyal to Israel. So what's changed? Sure. Some great things have been done. some band-aids have been put in place. Where is the change? Where's the lasting change coming from?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Where is the hope of lasting change coming from? They sold out the whole industry, the economics of this country to China. Then they financialized the country to the point where, really, if you want to get rich in this country, you better be able to know how to play the market because it's not like you're, it's not like you're going to get a, you're, you're going to get a job unless you're probably, you know, going to be a CEO of something that's going to give you the kind of,
Starting point is 01:00:58 the kind of wealth that was promised, you know, that was the old promise of this country a long time ago. Where do you think this is, where do you think this is coming from? Where do you think where are the answers going to come from? if you can't, if you can't stop people from breaking into an ice vehicle, put them down. If you can't put those people down, if you can't remove a sitting judge who probably wasn't even born in this country. So that you can get your agenda through and you're going to, you know, and then you're just going to, your lackeys are going to tell me, no, you just got to wait. You just got to be patient.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You got to be patient. They're coming. They're coming. 10,000 more ICE officers. 10,000. This isn't going to be solved by ice. Fuck, you fucking fuck wits. This isn't solved by ice.
Starting point is 01:02:00 This is solved strangely by decree. Do you know how many, if there's 50 million people here, 50 million illegals here or 100 million people, you really think that they're just going to rat. that that's going to be rounding them up. No, you have to make it so that they cannot survive here and that they leave. You cut off everything. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Cut off everything. Minneapolis, there should not be a federal dollar and entitlement dollar, anything going into Minneapolis. And if there are heritage Americans there who are good people, set up something, set up something through the churches, set up something through however you have to do it, and make sure that it's only heritage Americans that are getting taken care of. Starve them the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:02:59 One out of six children in the Charlotte, North Carolina school district is a foreigner. Yep. It's one out of four nationally. It's one out of four kids sitting in a public school is either, is either, for it is either for their they're they're an immigrant or their parents were an immigrant one out of four yep nationally and how many of those were you know white Venezuelans or uh white Cubans or white South Africans or white Europeans making you know coming to this this country and assimilating I've seen video learn with it's supposed it of like some Australian guy who
Starting point is 01:03:45 came to America, somebody like, America's awesome, you know, like I have freedom here and I can have guns and I can read speech. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:51 more guys like that, right? You know, if Mark Collette or Thomas Sowell came to, from the UK or Australia and seeking political asylum, I'd be like, sure, let them in.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Because they're genuinely under political repression. But we both, everyone here knows and everyone listening and everyone in Washington and all the people who hear this, you know the vast, vast, vast majority of the people that have come to this country in the last half century are not good citizens who just want a better life and contribute.
Starting point is 01:04:24 They're here as free riders who want to take our stuff because to them, this is the land of milk and honey. It's a strip mall, as I said, yes, it's a strip mall. That's exactly correct. Do you know how many people of European descent I gave a green card or citizenship to in my eight years with US INS? Did I tell you this already, Pete? Did I tell you how many that was? Because I counted. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Five in eight years. That's less than one a year. And I did 14 interviews a day, a day. So tens of thousands of people, and you did five. Yep. Of European descent, yes. And I can tell you why every one of them did it. I can remember there was not one that was different.
Starting point is 01:05:19 They were all older white guys that were in more often than not the shipping business, like literal sailors, captains, stuff like that. And the only reason they were here, they didn't even particularly like America. They were here because their wives were American and they wanted to finally do it for their wives and their wives wanted to stay here and come home because they were getting older. They wanted to be around their families. So they did it for that. most of them didn't even particularly want to be here because they saw the writing on the wall
Starting point is 01:05:51 what was there here for them what was there here for white people and nothing not for them they weren't stupid men they they saw it five in my whole career i mean i mean what do you how do you fix that how do you fix that outside of you know drastic drastic drastic measures yeah Has anybody had the misfortune of being in an emergency room recently? I was hurt on the job not long ago. I live in a small town. I was, but I live in a very small town, and I was the only person in the emergency room. I'm sorry you were in the emergency room, but I'm glad you got very quick service.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I live in not as small a town as you, but also a small town. But there was me and one other person, and I could tell you, 100% easily that the other person wasn't illegal because didn't speak a lick of English. They had to get a translator. She didn't have any identification. She was here with the baby. And I was like, so even though there's only two people in here, that's 50% of this room is illegals. So all we have to do is extrapolate from there.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Well, and moreover, I mean, everything, everyone said tonight is correct. but like Donald Trump is working to get rid of Thomas Massey he already got rid of Marjorie Taylor Green
Starting point is 01:07:30 where is you know even on like fiscal grounds you know Thomas Massey can put on his like black and yellow bull tie and be like well it's not fiscally sustainable
Starting point is 01:07:43 and we need to cut the deficit and so you know I don't care how right but Thomas Massey generally comes to the correct conclusion just because he's an autistic libertarian about the economy of the federal budget. Whatever, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Why isn't Donald Trump going after Susan Collins and Lisa Rikowsky and all the other Republican squishes who are trying to ruin his life? You think that these people don't have campaign finance violations? You think he couldn't find something on these people and throw them in prison? Of course he could. They're all crooks. They all fuck kids. Pardon my language.
Starting point is 01:08:18 But that's how they get there. And Donald Trump is there and safe because he's, probably in on it. I mean, I love you guys. I genuinely do. But would any of you stay friends with me if you found out that I was buddies with somebody like Jeffrey Epstein? Or would you be like, get the fuck away from me? I don't want anything to do with you for the rest of my life, which is the correct and proper response. I mean, there would have to be a huge maya culpa and, you know, an explanation. But I mean, it's, you know, you even, you even, you know, have people now who you know i remember when when all that was happening when they were bombing
Starting point is 01:09:06 or ran and you're like hey what about the fcine files and people people quote unquote right wingers oh what you just want it you you want to see child porn is that what you want i mean these i really hate the term cope because i think it's something that you reserve for your enemies but the um It's getting clearer and clearer that there are a lot of people who say they're on our side who are our enemies. Because they're cope and the way they're coping with the fact that nothing is basically being done to solve the domestic problem. And then they're attacking you when you bring that up. I mean, that's what enemies do.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Maybe it's just me. I don't know. Maybe that's the way I see. people. I mean, I've had a lot of really fucking bad opinions in my life. I've had a lot of really bad opinions since I started this podcast. And I'm doing everything. I've tried to apologize for them over and over again. I'm doing everything I can to try to bring people with this podcast, like reality-based reporting or whatever we're doing here, commentary, history. You know, real history, true history of what happened.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And, you know, it basically means that you have to swallow your pride and your ego has to, you know, has to disappear. If you're going to say, yeah, I was wrong about this for a lot of years. And I led people down a real, you know, I was leading people down a really bad path. Yeah. I hope to see that from a lot of people right now who are like just making, cheering on policies that are not doing anything to strengthen this country. And it's not that I can, and not the country, the people. Fuck the idea of a country.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Let's talk about a nation, which is a people. there is very little being done to solve that problem. And one thing that when you understand how big this problem is, you realize that it can't be done incrementally. It has to be done all at once. If Curtis Jarvin was right about anything, he was right about the fact that if this country was going to be taken, back if the administrative state, the deep state, you know, whatever you want to call it,
Starting point is 01:12:01 was going to be taken down. It would have had to be in the first two weeks. Sam Hyde was right. After Charlie Kirk got shot, you had two weeks. And Charlie Kirk getting shot proved one thing, and it should have proved one thing to everybody. When you saw no response for that, that MAGA died with the whole idea or hope of MAGA. died with Charlie Kirk because apparently for all of his flaws and I have many criticisms of the man and his policies, he seemed to be keeping things focused and, you know, and basically keeping it from becoming what it, what it has become. Apparently, he didn't want the bombing in Iran.
Starting point is 01:12:56 did he after the Iran bombing did he say you know good job the way it was done sure you're going to do that you're going to try and support your friends and a lot of people are just going to root for the home team even when they're wrong but it is it is undeniable the change how basically clear since charlie Kirk's death it has become that we live in Judeo America and anyone who can't see that and anyone who can't see that everything that's being done right now to try and solve the problems is just a band-aid at most I don't know what to say to him I don't know what to say to them gold is $4,500 an ounce and silver is $90. So I know what to say to him doing your local chapter the old glory club because they're the only people who are going to give
Starting point is 01:14:02 a shit whether you get shot or not because there are insane communists you think that these insane communists who are you know like exercising law enforcement you know they're they're they're tailing people they're interrogating people you think that they're not going to be like after you you think that oh that's in minneapolis that's not in my city. Bullshit. There are insane communists who think, because they have the moral self-confidence. They have the moral self-confidence to actually say what I think is good is good, and the people who are against me are bad. And conservatives want to play fair and think that, oh, well, they might have a point. We need to be fair in both sides. No, Greeny Good was bad. And the people who
Starting point is 01:14:57 supportive are bad and anybody that wants to doesn't want to let america be america is a bad person and they'll they'll kill you dead for listening to this show let alone what they want to do to me or jose or peter charles they want us to die slow and painful and i've seen them talk about it so take it seriously because no one in power is going to because if they did you changes. Anyone? Just briefly, I want to step back to you, Pete, saying that you hate the word cope. And I'll be honest with you. I do too. I don't know if we hate it for the same reasons, but I loathe it. I loathe it. I want to try and keep this cogent by using all of your, all of the men's points here to kind of make a point. I loat the word because I think it's
Starting point is 01:15:57 constantly misused. I think what the real cope is. I think what I think what cope is are the people that you've been battling for some time, Pete, when you talk about you maybe had some bad opinions, but you're trying to move past them, get rid of them, get people back onto the right path. You have the courage and the humility to admit error. I'd like to think all of us here do. I'd like to think we do. I'd like to think I do. But who cope to me is people that just keep finding excuses. Cope to me is people that keep living vicariously, getting wins, air quotes, through other people.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's Cope. Cope isn't saying, hey, we're going to have to do this all or nothing. One fell swoop. That's not Cope. That's talking about reality. Saying that, well, this plan isn't going to work for X reason, so we need to think of another one.
Starting point is 01:16:57 is not cope. Cope is just making excuses. Cope is just pulling thin air reasons. Cope is just moving the goalposts on the back of a golf cart every time somebody raises a good point. That's what infuriates me about cope. Cope is, to put it quite simply, in terms I think D might appreciate.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Coop is failing to take things seriously. that's one thing, Dee, that you said to me that turned my life around from the self-destructive path it was on. And you weren't even judging me or attacking me. You were talking about yourself and how you were, and I believe it was Thanksgiving dinner. And you were surrounded by adult men older than you. And you were the only one that said, well, I guess somebody's got to cut the turkey. Nobody's doing it. I'll get up and do it.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And you said something that changed my life. You're like, because I was the only serious adult in the room. Everybody else was goofing off or doing something or shirking responsibility. I was the only serious adult. And that changed my life in a breath. Be a serious adult. Understand what time it is. Understand what is it stake.
Starting point is 01:18:20 You can give explanations. but do not give excuses. Yeah, well, I'm very flattered to hear that that meant so much to you. And I want to say something to both Pete and Jose that I've learned an immense amount because both of them, right? After 2020, people's like, oh, these people don't want to be free. They don't want the responsibility of being free. They'll just sit in their house and smoke weed
Starting point is 01:18:52 because the government told them not to go outside because someone got the cold. You know, Jose could have been, Jose could have been in Congress right now as the pro-gun Hispanic guy in Texas. If he'd pushed hard and been like, I love America and guns, and I'm Hispanic and I'm not a communist,
Starting point is 01:19:17 vote for me in Dallas. He'd be either a chief of staff or in Congress right now. No bullshit. The establishment Republicans would have, creamed their pants at the idea of Jose Niño pro-American brown guy. But he didn't because he had some self-respect and realize that the only people that are going to, like if they lie to you about Jews or they lie to you about the reality of race,
Starting point is 01:19:48 or they lie to you about women or whatever cope you want, they're not going to tell you the truth when the chips are down. They're lying to you now when it's easy. what are you going to do when just as a for instance what happens when England defaults because they don't have any money and then all of a sudden the global financial system isn't a absolute shitstorm and all of a sudden people aren't getting paid do you think that these people that you know love love America right alongside you do you think that they're going to care about your kids being hungry no they're not because it was all bullshit and they were trying to, they were trying to grift off of you from the beginning, whether it's Nick Fuentes or Steve Bannon or anybody else. I'm not speaking for anybody else here, but whoever it is that's not telling you the truth about who this is for, that we're living under a Judeo-occupied America, the Zog is real, and it's the problem. Anyone not telling you that
Starting point is 01:21:07 is lying to you, and they're lying to you for a reason because everybody knows it now. there is no excuse to not know the truth about Zod now. I mean, it's kind of frustrating when you, when people who understand that it's not the man, it's the system. It's how it's been structured. there for life and how they are there to work against your best interests and how you can get your
Starting point is 01:21:56 best friend can get elected president and if he isn't going to cross the rubicon immediately and keep going and seek to destroy all this and say they're probably going to kill me but at least I'm going to try to do it. And they're not just going to wade in the river and, you know, throw a band-aid here and a band-aid there and a misdirection in Venezuela and a misdirection in Iran. I mean, people knew this. People know this.
Starting point is 01:22:38 And they're allowing themselves to be taken in because, you know, And not once in their life have they had a, um, a, a political, something that seemed like a political win. We're going to go. I heard,
Starting point is 01:22:55 I heard my dad or my granddad talk about how the cop, about the communist threat back in the day. And I've been told that there's this communist down, down in South America. And we went and we defeated the communist. Woohoo. It's that pathetic. It's literally that pathetic.
Starting point is 01:23:20 If you step back, you examine the situation. You look at Minneapolis. You look at Los Angeles. You look at places in the Pacific Northwest. You look at what's happening in Texas with just the invasion of Indians in Texas. But sure, you got your wind. defeated that commie it's that i am sorry i'm laughing at you i'm laughing at you because you because you fucking know better and you got distracted and i wake the fuck up and come back to reality
Starting point is 01:24:11 well yeah how does this how does this coping help you for as you can spending time doing things like building local networks spend all this time and energy that you have following you know, whatever's happening on Twitter X, whatever, the latest drama. That's where the war is being fought, bro. We can win it on Twitter. Chimp out, chimp out,
Starting point is 01:24:38 chimp out. That's the way we're going to beat them. Chimp out. Okay, well, but also but also build local networks. Can you call five guys to help you move a couch? If you can't solve that problem first. you know, it's not difficult. This is, this is, who's, who's going to help you if,
Starting point is 01:25:15 like, we're not, not necessarily a fan of like Cam Higby, but like, when he got his car surrounded by communists and they soaped his windows, you saw that, like, okay, who's going to help him if he has to shoot a bunch of people? Do you have a lawyer on, Tanner? Does he have money for a lawyer? Do you have money for a lawyer? Do you know a lawyer? Well, do you have enough friends that everyone can chip in 50 bucks?
Starting point is 01:25:42 And get you an attorney if you have to shoot somebody who's like, you know, sees the way you drive your SUV. Oh, you can't drive a pro-America car around here. You have an American flag sticker in the back of your truck. You're obviously a fascist Gestapo boot. You know, jack boot. And I'm going to surround you with, you know, five crazy women in pink hair. to box you in and stop your car. They're going to tell you you have to remove that sticker in this
Starting point is 01:26:17 neighborhood because we care about our neighbors. You're going to deal with that? How are you going to deal with that? You should probably start thinking about that instead of like, I don't know. Can you name the major, you know, drainage in Venezuela? Do you know the river there that? Do you know the topography of Venezuela? Do you know anything about Venezuela? Can you even pronounce it correctly? Like, can you tell me who the first president was? And I'm not an expert, but like, do anything about Greenland? You know, before you do the whole, like, do flexing with, you know, fireworks and
Starting point is 01:27:11 like American flags, GIF about Greenland, do you know what 50,000 Eskimos will drink if they come to New York City? Like, everything. There won't be a shampoo bottle with alcohol left in it in your little town if the people of Denmark, or not Denmark, of green, get moved here. How's that going to work out? But America, fuck yeah. Grow up. It's really not that difficult.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I mean, I've had to eat the fact that I was wrong about the Iraq war for years and years. And I was. It was terrible. But I admitted I was wrong. Do you think anyone would listen to me now if I was like, well, yeah, I was wrong about the, oh, I was right about the Iraq War. What? No, it wasn't. It was stupid. It was wrong. It was evil. It was bad. And so was this. And so is every other war we've waged. This is not, you know, we have a war at home where some huge percentage of your ostensible fellow Americans hate you and want you to die because you think your kids should have a country or that you should have kids you know to your point d about do you know anything about greenland do you know anything about
Starting point is 01:28:56 venezuela and you throw the gif about you know america the flag the eagle all that i i'm going to piggyback off of your point okay what's your state capital i'm not even going to get to get into america what's your state capital what's your state capital what's It's a state bird. Do you know those? Do you know those two? Who's your state representative? Yeah. Who's your state senator? Who's their city manager? Like who's yeah, who's on the board of the county commission? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, Jose. And you're absolutely right. The reason I choose what I choose is to say, I guarantee at least 40% of people won't even be able to know their state capital. I mean, I agree with your point, Jose.
Starting point is 01:29:45 I don't want you to think I'm trying to undermine it. I'm just starting out very easy and very small. What's your state capital? What's the state bird? Do you know either of those two? Because I know mine. Now, that's not to say I'm some kind of expert on the state or some brilliant mind, but I mean, if I claim to like this state because I live here, if I claim that if I have
Starting point is 01:30:09 the five the balls to say that it's one of the best moves, I ever made in my life was to move here. Is it perfect? No, but was it one of the best moves I ever made in my life? Yes. Well, then we'll learn a little bit about it because I like it. Well, if you love America, why don't you try and learn a little bit about it? How about paying a lot less attention to what goes on outside of our border and a hell
Starting point is 01:30:33 of a lot more on what goes inside? So please, Jose, you can go ahead. I just don't want you to feel like I undermine your point. No, I just wanted to just stress how people need to secure their neighborhood and just get their neighborhood in order before they start going on like bigger political projects. But I want to also highlight another point that if you're going to get into politics, you need to define what your goals are and what constitutes like a victory. for example, you want an immigration moratorium? Cool. How are you going to get there?
Starting point is 01:31:11 Who are you going to entrust? What type of vehicle are you going to use? What organizations are going to use? Which representatives are going to get behind? Because if you pick the wrong vehicle or whatever, you're just not going to get there, no matter how hard you try to rationalize your bad political behavior. And how you're going to get to that final destination. It's going to be like the hardest part.
Starting point is 01:31:33 If you can't find people on the inside. you're going to probably have to take matters into your own hands and start from scratch and building an organization from the bottom up on finding like-minded people because the time to rely on relying on false profits is long past us and there's no reason to be embarking on a ship that's going to take you on on the wrong destination ultimately yeah it's people um i i think we we have some people good people who are getting involved politically, especially at the local level and everything. But yeah, they definitely need to know what they're in for. I have a friend who he's been a local politician up in Indiana for a while. And, I mean, he gets attacked. He's very, he's extremely right wing. And, you know, he gets just massacred for even talking about immigration in a red state.
Starting point is 01:32:34 For it's, yeah, I mean, know what you're getting into. I mean, the, the new governor of Virginia, what the hell is her name? Span. Do you know it? Yeah. She had her, yeah, she had her acceptance speech today. What was her, what was one of her main points? Fighting Trump's immigration policy.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Her first executive order as governor was to repeal Junkin's policy. of allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with immigration enforcement. So not even 100 miles away from Washington in Richmond, like literally across the river from Washington, where most
Starting point is 01:33:19 of the people who live and work in Washington actually live in Virginia. Right? Like literally across the street. In Washington, D.C., I'm on Google Earth right now. Okay?
Starting point is 01:33:38 the Potomac is not even a mile across. Less than a mile from Washington, D.C. You're in Virginia in Arlington, and the writ of the law does not run a mile. Right outside of Arlington National Cemetery, the governor of Virginia, but the Civil War people were traitors. Robert Lee went his home, his family home that became the National Cemetery. He was a traitor. We need to tear all his statues down. But Abigail Spamberger, no, she's just a patriotic American.
Starting point is 01:34:26 No, she's a... Isn't she Jewish? She's not an American. Whatever she is. It doesn't matter if she's Jewish. Your husband might be Jewish. Doesn't matter. She's not American.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Deal with that first before we're like, we should invade Venezuela, or we should invade Brazil, or we should let the Israelis burn down Patagonia. We should invade Greece. England, invade Baltimore, and then see how that goes and then get back to me. I don't know that there's much more that we can say on the subject. I've kept you guys long enough on a Saturday night. And I appreciate you all joining me because, you know, just the frustration is there.
Starting point is 01:35:15 The people fall back into this because they like Trump or they know someone who works in the administration or you know well i i have a friend that talks to the administration okay good good good um those um those administrative employees are they they still there yeah they're still there okay all right well you know um he is very able to uh deport people without a judge stepping in And no, no, okay, okay, okay, okay, good, good, good. Thank you. Appreciate that. A lot of cope going on.
Starting point is 01:36:05 But, yeah, I appreciate you guys getting with me and adding and definitely adding to it because it was just me. I just sit here getting frustrated. So I'll go around the horn. We'll start with, start with Jose. Jose's got a lot going on. Where can people find your work, Jose? What do you want to plug? No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:28 so much Pete for having me on again and also it's great chatting with De and Charles as always but yeah you find my work at Headline USA where I'm an editor there and I write about some new stuff there and also I'm very active on my substack
Starting point is 01:36:44 Jose Niño unfiltered with my articles and my podcast El Niño speaks which can also be found on YouTube, Rumble Odyssey and Spotify and then Yeah, I occasionally write for Occidental Observer. And if you would just want like my regular musings, I'm on X slash Twitter at Jose Al Nino.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Mr. Spadillo. Thank you, Pete. As always, thank you very much for having me. I greatly appreciate it. It's always good to speak with you, Jose definitely. D, we speak plenty offline and online. But it's always a pleasure. I don't have anything specific to plug.
Starting point is 01:37:24 I've got a lot going on personally trying to get a lot of things in order, career change, et cetera. but I just want to say that I can be found on X at Whiskey and Ashes. I still have a book out there, The Holistic Guide to Suicide, If Anybody Has Depression, Suicide, Idiation, anything like that. I do hope it will help you get past any trauma or difficult times. Other than that, God bless everybody. Thank you for listening. I'll pass the floor to date.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Muted, sorry. I am on Substack, Fundamental Principle. I have my own religious-based show there. and I kind of hear there everywhere. Jose and you're supposed to speak on his show at some point. And, you know, just thank you all very much for your kind words and your following. And please support the guys that support you. You know, why Charles's books subscribe to the different substacks.
Starting point is 01:38:15 You know, kick a few bucks because everyone else is going to lie to you. And the only thing, the only weapon you have is the truth. So, you know, pre-man being on the wall slash support. I think. I always get that wrong, but, you know, kick Pete a few bucks because without him, this wouldn't be possible. Whoops, I was muted out that time. I appreciate that. And I think I actually got a change to the Pekinguna Show.com now, but if there is a forward slash something after that, I totally forgot what it is. But appreciate that. Appreciate all three of you. And until the next time, thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I want to welcome everyone back to the Piquignonez show. The Thought Crime Cendix at minus 1. DE is under the weather. So I got Jose and Charles here, but we're just going to jump right in. And Jose has been writing and recording about what's been going on. So I'm going to kick it to him. And, you know, Jose start out wherever you want, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Thank you for having me on again, Pete. And appreciate being here with you. again as well Charles but yeah I mean things are just going off the rails and that's one of the main reasons why I was not enthusiastic this past election cycle and just sat out because I feared that Trump given his multi-decade connections that even like start with his father with American Jewry especially some of the weirdest factions of world jury like the Habod, Lubavich group, and other Kuk Zionists gave into their pressure and is now mired in a kerfuffle, to say the least, against Iran that has potential, not just like geopolitical
Starting point is 01:40:20 implications, but also economic implications that could really derail his just agenda and presidency and that's one of the things that I've been warning about for some time, especially on substack, about just the fact that not just this term, but in his first term, he has gone, Trump has gone above and beyond when it comes to carrying out the racial will to power of the Jewish people, specifically the Israelis on foreign policy affairs. And these Iran strikes are just the latest escalation and the maximum fulfillment of what the clean break agenda of just trying to knock off Iran and who knows what's going to happen. But let's just hope for some type of restraint, a just complete conclusion and a fast conclusion to this conflict because the longer it drags on, you could see energy prices, soar, A lot of casualties for young American white men and soldiers that should not be there
Starting point is 01:41:33 that should actually just be placed at the border or in other parts of like the country or Western Hemisphere where the U.S. should be at. But that's what happens when your country and government, the commanding heights of the economy and financial institutions, are captured by a hostile ethnic group. So, yeah. Yeah, the, I mean, I guess we knew that there was going to be a lot of Jewish influence over this, over this second term of his.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I think at that point, you just hope that it would be as much as the first, not this. I mean, this is, you know, in a week, this is above and beyond what he did for Jewry in the first term. Yes, 100%. Yeah. I mean, they broke a good deal of taboos in the first term. As I mentioned in my piece, the Judeo accelerationist presidency, whether it was like the attacks on Syria, Qasem Soleimani, the assassination. there and even like the recognition of Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights and the movement of the capital of from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. These are all just largely diplomatic gestures that even neocons and neoliberal, their interest in this didn't do before.
Starting point is 01:43:15 But this is way different because it's much like larger. It has obviously global implications, but it is part of a series of things. that a pattern that we have seen that's just escalated because since Trump's first term, there is a very escalatory pattern we see. And this is one of the reasons why I have become very skeptical and outright hostile now to what I like to call zio populism, where you're seeing this. This is not just exclusive to the U.S., but it's also happening in a lot of these Western countries in Europe, of these so-called populist parties that use populist. is cosmetics such as campaigning against mass migration and
Starting point is 01:44:03 pushing economic nationalist agendas which are actually good policies if implemented obviously but that's just the lure that they're using to get the bait to get people into a political coalition
Starting point is 01:44:22 whose real policy agenda is just making the world safe for Zionism. And that's what I fear is happening from whether it's like the Trump movement all the way to Vox in Spain or La Lega in Italy. A lot of these movements are just stalking horses for Zionists interest. But this go around, they're just using populism as the skin suit. Yeah, that makes perfect sense to me, Jose. When you were talking about the cracks were in the first administration. And Pete, you were saying that you saw, you were hoping at the very least that his bending the knee, the Trump's bending the knee to Zionist interest wouldn't,
Starting point is 01:45:08 would not worsen. You were hoping that at least it would stay. Obviously, you'd prefer it to be lessened, but you at least hope it wouldn't worsen. To me, this is all like a giant spidering piece of glass. Imagine getting a crack in your windshield. We can all see the first, crack but unless you do something about it it's just going to grow and grow and grow and now we're watching that happen in real time and the worst part about all these obviously there's myriad terrible parts of this but to me my thinking the worst part of all of this is that it's it's cracking and it's just so obvious I guess you could say in a way it's a silver lining or a or a backhand
Starting point is 01:45:56 success. But it's so obvious now that we are an occupied nation. I said long ago in 2020, the worst thing a shadow government can do is to step in the light. And I think that's what they've done. And by this, it's just become so obvious, even the most normie of normies are now engaging in the noticing TM. So as I said, I can see the cracks are getting worse. And that is a bad thing. It's just the slavish devotion to these, as we talked about in previous thought crime syndicate episodes, specifically one, the slavish devotion to the psychopathic nation is just worsening. And the irony is it's just going to be this self-replicating cycle that's just going to keep spinning and spinning. It's going to be that piece of glass, that windshield
Starting point is 01:46:49 that through cracking is going to get worse and worse. Because once you put your foot on the gas with this, then it just becomes, it has nowhere to go but grow. As we all know, they have all these laws and they're pushing them even further and harder with anti-Semitism laws and all that, blah, blah, blah, to get rid of anti-Semitism and to fight anti-Semitism. Crying out loud, they put a commercial on the Super Bowl about it. But the bitter irony is the more they keep doing this, then the more they keep making those cracks larger and larger and larger. So we're going to see this spiraling outwards until everything comes crashing down in a, I mean, in a spectacular in every sense of the word display.
Starting point is 01:47:34 The only problem is what's going to be standing. And I couldn't even tell you. I wouldn't even feel comfortable guessing as to what's going to be standing at the end of this. Because right at this moment, the only thing keeping things from just completely spiraling out of control is just the fact. that I truly believe in a way it's like COVID. Nobody really knows what to do about it.
Starting point is 01:48:00 We have these people obeying the psychopathic nation and everybody else just standing on the sidelines, I mean, realistically standing on the sidelines, they can saber-rattle all they want, but realistically standing on the sidelines, looking at each other, going, well, what do we do now? What do we do? Because the stakes now have just been amplified. How exactly do we respond to this? And to me, I mean, I think we're going to, I think you're going to see that this is just going to build speed.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I wish it didn't. But I have a sinking suspicion that it will. Yeah, this seems like it's, it's only going to get worse before it gets better. But who could, who would have predicted 10 years ago that over 50% of the country would be pro-Palestinian? I mean, I know that like democracy is retarded. but one thing that I also know about history from studying these people is that it normally doesn't go well for them when the majority of people start to notice them. I mean, look at Russia, what you might call what some people have called peasant's antisemitism.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I mean, that was rampant throughout Russia. Any kind of reaction against them was never top down, was never from the Tsar. it was always from the people around them who were you know who could see that there was something going on yeah i mean that's that's why all of the cries of anti-semitism and all the and all the victim this self-sessed victimhood is just so absurd you're talking about cultures thousands of miles and thousands of years apart from one another all seem to somehow and keep noticing the same thing i mean as i'm fond of saying it's become a meme now but i'm and i'm not saying to be stole it for me personally, but I mean, I've been saying it for 20 years. If I get thrown out of
Starting point is 01:50:02 109 bars, nobody blames restaurateurs. I'm obviously the problem. But yet we have to keep playing this ludicrous, I mean, in every sense of the word, this ludicrous and incredible, by the most classic definition, version of history where somehow they're always just inexplicably picked upon. And that's what I was saying earlier with this, was that it's only going to get worse. because as more and more people notice and see the behaviors, I mean, for goodness sake, my dental hygienist, whom I've gotten to listen to the show, has started out years ago as a very strong supporter of Israel.
Starting point is 01:50:44 And in the last six months to a year, has only begun really, as we say, noticing TM and putting connecting dots and drawing lines together. And then realizing, wait a minute, perhaps everybody's dislike or distaste or both is not entirely unfounded. Perhaps it's not this boogeyman of bigotry and ignorance that is the cause of this dislike of this group of people. Perhaps there is something to be said for it. Yes, I think as well to add on is that this is just a natural civilizational cycle of recognizing a parasitic,
Starting point is 01:51:30 entity and a group of actors that have just borrowed themselves into the polity and the gentile body is reacting to it i mean it might not be optimal but it's there's going to be a big reaction brewing and more people are noticing this and i do think the one thing that is very instructive is that in the whole lead up to this conflict in iran it is it is a it is pretty breathtaking how there's just no more pretense of democracy or representative governance. Now, it's just done through Caesarism for Jewry, if you will, through just blanket executive actions to carry out the racial will of the Jewish people in the Middle East. And that's something to remind people that, like, the schoolhouse rock model of governance that were taught in school, like, That's over when you let this hostile click take control of the state.
Starting point is 01:52:37 And it's been a reality check. And one thing that has been really that has made me pull my hair out, there's just been no pushback from the freaking Congress whatsoever, both chambers. I mean, they're obviously bought and paid for like super majority, if there's one thing. And the thing that's even more. frightening too is that
Starting point is 01:53:02 this whole apparatus in Congress can't even pass any good laws but the one thing they sure can pass or move forward is mostly stuff dealing with organized jewelry but they can't pass an immigration moratorium they can't repeal
Starting point is 01:53:20 birthright citizenship they can't end chain migration they can't do any of this type of stuff but they sure can pass these resolutions condemning anti-Semitism or other acts like that or pass like military aid for Israel, but that just goes to show who's actually the sovereign here. And that's the who-who-who question. We always have to ask ourselves when analyzing politics
Starting point is 01:53:44 because you can talk all you want about democracy, liberalism, individualism, blah, blah, blah, but if you can't even identify who the sovereign is and who the actual friend-enemy is in this friend-enemy distinction, it's not engaging in politics. You're engaging in just like a form of wishcasting or at best political masturbation. Well, you know, one of the things that is commonly talked about is how democracy,
Starting point is 01:54:15 republicanism, it's just going to default to oligarchy. The problem is that if you understand that there are oligarchs, well, then they'd be pretty simple to see. And for a long, well, for a long time, they weren't. Now the internet comes along and people like have all this information at their fingertips. You have Twitter where you can see people, you know, even prominent people making comments. Then, you know, the Epstein files comes along and it drops and it's like, okay, well, if we're an oligarchy, that means we have oligarchs. And it seems like the top group are, is this Jewish group of oligarchs. There are other oligarchs out there. I think that, you know, the Teal Network is its own separate group that probably,
Starting point is 01:55:12 you know, has ties to Jewelry as well. I think someone as simple as Hunter Biden. The Biden crime family was trying to put together their little kind of thing and that Hunter was like their Jeffrey Epstein and shared the same predilections as well. You have to be able to name the oligarchs, but I guess they figured out that, well, if we're going to have an oligarchy and we're going to be able to dominate it, then we're going to have to be the one group that you can't talk about because it's illegal, it's unseemly. You're blaming another group for your problems. You're just jealous because we have high IQs, you know, and that's pretty much what you've seen since World War II is a brainwashing and social engineering campaign to make people either not
Starting point is 01:56:10 notice who, you know, who is wielding power, who's punching way above their weight, and, if you do notice, well, you think there's something wrong with noticing them. You may be able to talk about, you know, how many right-wingers are there on Twitter that will talk about how terrible the blacks are and the Muslims and everything. But no, you know, we're not talking about, we're not going to talk about that group. That group, they're just so high IQ that they're really, really smart, you know, and, you know, you really should pay attention to them. and maybe even, maybe even, you know, ally with them because, you know,
Starting point is 01:56:54 would Jews you win? Would Jews you win? Well, what do you win? What are you talking about? You know, the one thing about the deal with the devil is, is you don't, you make a deal with the devil, you don't get anything out of it. It actually, you actually end up screwed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:16 I mean, I mean, ask, who's, the famous golfer that lost everything. Jack, am I thinking of Jack Nicholas? I'm trying to think there's a famous golfer that basically lost everything, even his own name. It was just, it's unbelievable. Look into it. Yeah, he made a deal with them and everything just snowballed from there. He lost everything. And they owned him lock, stock and barrel. So you, I mean, I understand, and I'll be the first one to say it. I've said it on this program and other programs. You know, our list of allies grows thin. It's always been thin.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And although it is expanding more and more with each passing day as our opponents reveal themselves, we still are very small and number. We're still not very numerous. But still, it's like you have to be careful with who you want to jump into bed with. And especially, as you said, you know, with some groups, you're just guaranteed to lose. You're just guaranteed. Indeed. Why? Because you're dealing with two fundamentally different worldviews, fundamentally different approaches toward allyship. One is in good faith. One is purely and utterly just ad hoc. Like what am I going to get out of this now? If you're not going to be useful to me in 10 minutes, then in 10 minutes, we don't have an allyship anymore. There's no foundation of any sort of lasting alliance. That's one of the things that's always made me. about Sasha Baron Conan all his air quotes comedies like what's he really doing he's mocking
Starting point is 01:58:55 high trust societies look at these people they're rubs they're fools and it's like that's called a high trust society like that's that's people giving other people the benefit of the doubt giving people good faith and yet it's just being mocked so i to me even thinking as you said Jose like some of these people will know or beat both of you said you know I'm imagine getting into bed with these people. It's like to me that I just can't even imagine that crossing my mind. I can understand whether I agree with it or not is completely irrelevant to the point, but I can understand why some people may not want to name the enemy, may not want to put them in their sights necessarily. Not sure I agree with it, but I can understand that.
Starting point is 01:59:39 I can comprehend it. But to ally or to seek fake hurry favor, that's just it's just insane as you said pete you don't you don't deal with the devil because it's never going to come out on top ever and the worst thing you can do is think that you will is think that you can't outsmart the devil you can't you simply can't he's been doing this for too long and has far too much practice you don't deluge yourself you're not going to outsmart him what are the opinions on basically Hegg, Seth, and Mike Johnson coming out and basically saying what we would say and what we would get in trouble for saying. And he just said it.
Starting point is 02:00:29 They just said it. Well, I mean, most of the political class, honestly, they know about the JQ, but they just have the mindset that you can't beat them, join them. Or with Jews, you win. And they know about this. And when push comes of shove, they'll say it. But, I mean, it's already too late. The facts are already being created on the ground as we speak.
Starting point is 02:00:56 And these people, like, they could obviously fall off, witness damages to their career later down the line because they're ultimately fall goys. That's what happens when you pact with the Jews. You become expendable. at any given moment and by blowing up their spot they're now in that
Starting point is 02:01:22 fall going territory especially if this whole campaign turns into a complete disaster like in the case of Haguesef but yeah I mean in the highest echelons of power especially among Gentiles
Starting point is 02:01:37 they know about this stuff but they just willingly join it because they have really messed up morals and principles And that's why when I do what I tell people, like when you're making political moves or whatever, you want to make the right moves and the ones that are like in line of your principles and morals, it's one thing to shut up about these issues because of work-related stuff where you can suffer like economic punishment and stuff like that. You have to pick your battles there.
Starting point is 02:02:03 But if you're actually like a serious political actor that is going to be in an antagonistic struggle against, like, jewelry or some other allies, you have to stick to your guns because if you try to play these slick games, make these Faustian packs and deals with the devil, you're just going to end up getting screwed and the people around you screwed as well in the long term. We have to have like long term thinking when getting into the arena. Well, remember too, you're dealing with a fundamentally spiritually feminine group. And this is what I've said for a while. You're dealing with a fundamentally spiritually feminine group. So you have to approach it as that. And that has to be kept in mind at all times. In a lot of ways in life, you don't deal with women. You either make your
Starting point is 02:02:56 decision or you refuse to concede or you willingly lose. You just say, okay, that's fine. You either choose to win or you choose to lose. You don't negotiate. That's generally by and large how many, and really interact with women. You choose your battles. And I know a lot of people listening say, oh, no, no, that's not true. But I think, I really believe it is. You choose your battles.
Starting point is 02:03:21 You either say, yeah, sure, we'll do what you want. Or you just say, no, you won't. It's very rarely in negotiation. And that's what you have, in a way, that's what you have to do here. But to kind of go back to what you said, Jose, I think even if one were to approach them with a real politic attitude and say,
Starting point is 02:03:39 well, we have to deal with certain people They have certain things we need or certain things we want. I do think that even in a real politics sense, there are some groups you just shouldn't deal with. You should just try and circumvent at all costs. There's some people you just should not do business with. And yes, we already said that about dealing with the devil, but I think it even goes further than that. You should just try and either keep them as your opponent or just simply don't deal with them, period. you like that's it just try and completely circumvent them because i think anything else they're
Starting point is 02:04:15 going to they're going to much like women they're going to fight on their field of battle and it is one you will probably be ill equipped ill equipped upon which to fight because they're going to use tactics and things that you're just that just aren't yours and that you're just unfamiliar with things like emotion appeals to authority appeals to all sorts of things, all your loyalties. And they're going to twist them. As you said earlier in the program, Jose, you were saying earlier, they're going to draw you in with these notions. And then they're just going to turn it around on you.
Starting point is 02:04:53 They're going to find ways to taint it. So to me, you either make them your opponent or you just try not to deal with them and then just go from there. That's all you've realized. can do as far as I see because any other option you become their golem you become their slave you become their puppet you have to treat it like any other occupation like a real occupation like if a military was occupying um you know foreign military was occupying your country um you wouldn't unless you were a traitor you wouldn't you wouldn't side with them you do everything you could
Starting point is 02:05:34 to mitigate all risk in dealing with them. And people just don't get that we are occupied. It's not the same as it used to be, but I mean, it's really a, it's a political and a cultural and even a metaphysical occupation, because that has, you know, our beliefs have been under attack for so long. And, you know, it's, you, to play, to dip your toe in that, it is to get caught up in it. It's why so many people decide I'm going to run for office,
Starting point is 02:06:12 I'm going to go to Washington, D.C., I'm going to do what I can to change it. And as soon as they get there, they're consumed by it. And they just become another one of them. That's what happens when you play in these waters. And that is what happens, that is what's going to happen to you if you decide, oh, well, you know, with these people, I have a chance in winning. Good luck. Yeah, exactly. Like you're not going to win. And it's not even a matter, and this is what I was trying to say earlier. It's not even a matter of I question people's self-discipline or power or drive or principles, anything. I don't question any of that. Again, I just say you're dealing with people that have been playing this game in a certain way for a very, very long time. It's why historically the only way to handle them was, Exile. Like, no, that's it. Or confinement. Confinement. You stay in your neighborhood. That's it. Because any other way, we lose. It really is that simple. We can't underestimate the wisdom of our ancestors and our forefathers. It was, this is the only way these problems are handled. Exile or containment. That's it.
Starting point is 02:07:31 And then, oddly enough, both work swimmingly well. And that's about it. Yes, I think there is a point to be made here as well that going back to basics goes a long way and getting his, becoming a historically literate will help you understand why these type of Faustian bargains are just bad from the jump and just have a reference point too, because I feel that, especially in this incredibly, deracinated society where people don't have good reference points or models to look at. Just going back and dusting off your history books will go a long way to get you up to speed
Starting point is 02:08:18 and help prevent you making big political mistakes by consorting of the wrong people. And sometimes this may be hard work for people. It's simple but hard, but it has to be done because, as I say, the lazy man does like double or if not triple the work. So I want to stress this point. Some of this stuff is not sexy. It will be tedious, but doing so will prevent you a whole lot of headache
Starting point is 02:08:45 in the long term for sure. And that's what we need this type of thinking that goes back to the classics and to our ancestors. And also that stresses historical literacy, learning about your heroes and also their struggles
Starting point is 02:09:00 and your civilization struggles over the course of history. and identifying bad actors so that when those bad actors come again, but in a reappear in a modern context, you're ready to actually go toe to toe with them. Well, what's your all's opinion on just how it seems that nobody knows history? They think that Iran, a country that is, far more advanced and far more capable than Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, even Syria to a certain extent,
Starting point is 02:09:50 is just going to, oh, this is just a walk in the park, we drop some bombs, and we get regime change. You know, my friend John Fieldhouse pointed out this week that the only from the air regime change that we've ever seen was in Bosnia. And they had a very active color revolution happening on the ground. And they were preparing to invade. So it's like Trump's a smart guy. Like J.D. Vance said last year on Meet the Press after whatever. that operation was called that they did in June. Well, the reason why it didn't work is because the last presidents who tried it were dumb.
Starting point is 02:10:38 And now we have a smart president. I mean, the hubris is staggering. I don't know. I don't know what else to say beyond that. Like the hubris is staggered. Yeah, there's a lot of cartoonish type of thinking with regards to, how people view geopolitics and this goes back to the point of
Starting point is 02:11:05 being historically literate and having good reference points because when your reference points are Marvel Cape shit and Star Wars, G.I. Joe's stuff you're going to view things like in the forward policy realm in a way that
Starting point is 02:11:20 it's just a matter of pressing the right buttons, dropping the right bomb, killing the right people at the top and you take over the government. It's not how things work abroad, especially when you're dealing with different civilizations that are far more structured and can actually resist and that are willing to sacrifice because one thing to point out, and this is just evidence that we live in a thoroughly Judei-ized society, is that many people, because of the fact that they are
Starting point is 02:11:49 de facto mammon worshippers, they see things in a purely economically reductionist and financialized lens. Like, let's face it, there are people abroad that fight for more than just money or whether something's going to be bad for their bottom line they they will fight to the bitter end to keep foreigners out of their territories or for higher ideals and that's something that many people can't comprehend because their minds have been effectively colonized by the panjuda but this is a point that we have to start emphasizing with people around us or those who are receptive to what we have to say is to get them back to the the basics so that we can actually re-arianize, if you will, our society, you get thinking more
Starting point is 02:12:39 like our ancestors than the present cap-shit-addled populist as brains have just been melted by all this bad information and content. Yeah, my buddy, Mike Ferris, who has the coffee on a Mike podcast, real heterodox. You know, he's had me and DE on, and he all. I'll have like Paul Craig Roberts on. It'll just have some Normies on there. But, you know, he just talks to everybody. He has this thing he's been saying for a while.
Starting point is 02:13:09 He's like, everybody thinks they're living in a superhero movie. And, I mean, it's like someone's coming to save them. And they're not. You know, and no one's coming to save you. To me, I think, honestly, Pete, I'm not, this is a green amplified, not a pedanticism. To me, it's yes and I think it's even worse than that. I used to think that yes, the worst of it was people think someone's coming to save them, but they're not. To me, now that I look a little farther and I look a little deeper and I think a little bit more about the past and the present and possibly the future, to me, the worst of it is not only do they think people can save them or that somebody's coming to save them, they think they're just the good guys are going to win.
Starting point is 02:13:59 It's like that's like the old Norm MacDonald joke goes. You know, well, what do you know? The good guys literally won every war up till now. I'll be darned. What about that? It's like, but that's not actually how the world works. You know, as you said with the cap shitting stuff, it's like there, Iron Man and Captain America and all those guys aren't just, you know, they don't win every time.
Starting point is 02:14:25 That's not how the real world works. I wish it were that the good guys always win. All they had to do, all they had to do was show up. But that's not how it is. It's simply not how it is. And I think that's part of the ignorance that we have, that we really need to remedy, is that victory is not guaranteed. I mean, as a man of faith, I do believe God's going to win in the end.
Starting point is 02:14:51 But that doesn't mean that we, doesn't mean that things are going to go well for us down here. And if we want things to go at least reasonably well for us down here, then we have to fight and we have to take it one bloody inch at a time, one muddy patch of ground at a time. And I think that's what we have to recall. We have to remember what's worth fighting for. That's the other thing. Our creature comforts, I've talked about this on another podcast. Yeah, it's nice to have a 52-inch TV. It's nice to have an Xbox or whatever you want. I'm not going to argue any of them. those things. But are any of them really making you happy or is there a profound hole in the center of your soul, the center of your being? And I think that would be the note that I would want to
Starting point is 02:15:40 strike with people most often. Well, you know, if I rock the boat, then I'll lose my X. I'll lose my Y. I'll lose my Z. It's okay, well, are any of them making you satisfied? I won't even use the word happy. I'll use the word, do you wake up every day and feel content? with the man you are and your place in the world. If you do, I'll shut the hell up. Then great, good for you. God bless you. You found what I think is you won life as far as I'm concerned.
Starting point is 02:16:09 But seeing the world around me, I don't think I could count that five people like that. And maybe I'm projecting. It's certainly possible. But I don't see any evidence of that being a commonality. Well, what's something? I'm sorry. What's something that, you know, we've always said. It's like, okay, if you were to even begin to try to fix this, it would take, I mean, will.
Starting point is 02:16:39 I mean, just sheer will. And, I mean, a concrete kind of temperament. We just haven't seen that. I mean, we're out there supposed to, we're supposed to be freeing. you know, Iran so that their women can become only fans models and, you'll go back to dressing like sluts like they did in the 1970s pictures that I keep seeing. And mind you, all you have to do is search any videos that are six months to a year old on, on YouTube, that say Tehran, streets of Tehran. And you'll see people walking around with cameras and you're
Starting point is 02:17:27 not seeing any hijabs, and you're seeing basically people who look like Westerners. So the country is not, it's, oh, they're oppressing their own people. Yeah, that'll happen, but I mean, they're not out there actively doing anything, because every, pretty much every regime has fallen to managerialism at this point. But the, if you're going to have real change, you would have seen, it, it would have affected your life by now. You know, Meanwhile, you know, California is, you know, when I was a kid, California was every white person wanted to get rich and move to California. I mean, that was just a goal of so many people. It was like a dream.
Starting point is 02:18:13 You know, people talk about Minnesota, like they talk about, you know, Maine and, and, you know, Vermont now, where it's just like mostly white and it's mostly peaceful. and you had the old joke about, you know, the only two black people in Minnesota were Prince and Kirby Puckett. And, you know, it's, you know, and you have these states that are based in Texas is getting, you know, sections of Texas are getting overrun by Indians. And you have a hundred foot statute to a demon. And no one's doing anything about that. And so it's, I mean, okay. I mean, if the Iranian people are being, do have this dictator who's killing them. And, you know, I mean, well, we didn't do anything about that when there were the numerous African dictators who were doing that to people.
Starting point is 02:19:08 I mean, you're, look, just be fucking honest with us and say, look, these people have something on us. They're paying us a lot of money. We're true believers. We believe. Do what Don Bacon did to me on Twitter. Don Bacon told me if Israel or the United States had to be wiped off the map, he would choose the United States. Just be honest. I would have more respect for you if you were honest.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Just say you're doing this. Say you're doing it because, you know, you, you know, there's something about these people, whether they have something on you or whether, you know, you worship them, you know, like a, you know, in a sacrilegious way. Just be honest with me. And don't try to tell me that, you know, behind the scenes, oh, no, we're fighting. The Q shit's dead. No, I'm sorry. I never believed that for a second.
Starting point is 02:20:10 So, yeah, just either tell us that you're, tell us what you are. And stop fucking playing games. And then, you know, at least if everybody knows. that these people are, they run shit and that we're, you know, we're basically working for them. I mean, that's information we need to know. Just tell us. Yeah. And I do think one of the few positives about all of this is they are telling us. I mean, some of them have been emboldened to say it right out loud. And if they aren't, they're certainly getting closer to it every day because they feel they have enough power to do it openly.
Starting point is 02:20:55 directly, unashamedly, unabashedly. So I would say that if I'm trying to find a silver lining or a bit of a white pill, I would say the good news is they are telling us in their own way in so far as they can admit to things. And even in the few that won't, like they're going to get lumped in anyway. It's already happening. So I'm with you though. I would prefer that. I would prefer just that salute from across the battlefield at least.
Starting point is 02:21:24 okay, let me know you're my enemy. Fly your flag. Where are your uniform. Do what you're going to do. And I mean, during your whole mention of that, all I kept flashing back to, ironically enough, is a speech by or an exchange, an interview. But with Malcolm X talking about how he liked his, you know, air quotes, racist opponents more than he liked white liberals because he compared it to a fox and a,
Starting point is 02:21:54 and a wolf and he says the wolf i'll just see it'll be across it'll be across the you know across the field from me and i'll look at him and he'll look at me and i know what he wants and he knows what i want i can at least respect that but the fox you know he's going to wait for me to turn my back he's going to wait for me to slip up and then he's just going to sneak in there in the chicken in the henhouse and get all my chickens and that's kind of where i am but then again that goes back to what i was saying earlier in the conversation like we're dealing with people that do not function like us. They just do not.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Whereas if you and I, Pete, we'll have a disagreement, we'll hash it out. You know, you'll say to me, I'll say to you, whatever. Okay, hey, what's going on? Let's approach each other one-on-one. Not necessarily even hostily. Let's just, okay, what's this? What's up? But that's not what these people do.
Starting point is 02:22:46 It's just not. They don't, again, it's very spiritually feminine. They don't want to admit things until they're sure that, that they have the upper hand and you won't be able to do anything about it. And they'll attack you publicly and try to humiliate you, which is the feminine and Jewish thing to do. Right. Instead of going to somebody,
Starting point is 02:23:12 especially if you know them or you're aligned with them to go to them privately and be like, hey, you know, I have a problem with something you said or something like that. I mean, that would be the, you know, and if somebody does that, I don't think any one of us here on this call would have a problem with that. Right. Not at all. As a matter of fact, it's like I can't, I tend to prefer things like that, if anything. I can't fix what I don't know I did wrong. I mean, it's just not reasonable.
Starting point is 02:23:43 Obviously, I think there are ways that things, such things can be approached in such ways that are unadvised to unadvisedly chosen. to approach. But yeah, absolutely. I would agree with that 100%. Let me know. Say something. Because again, I can't fix what I don't know was broken. So, but like you said, and as I said earlier too, like you're dealing with a very spiritually feminine group, which is why the only way to handle them, I'll circle back to it is either exile or containment. You either tell, you either tell your wife or your girlfriend. Yeah, sure, I'll do what you want. Or you tell no, we're not. There really isn't a third option. You just say, yes, we'll go with your plan, or no, we won't. That's it. And that's basically what you do with them. Now, obviously,
Starting point is 02:24:32 we also said earlier, it's best not to go along with their plan, but I'm painting broad strokes here. And that's why containment and exile are really the only two options when it comes to dealing with this group of people. It's like, no, we're just incompatible. And I mean, I would argue there are plenty of other groups that we're largely incompatible with as well but we're talking about this specific group at the moment yeah and one thing to keep in mind as well with the breakdown of the post-world war two order that has put western countries in a trance where people don't acknowledge race they don't acknowledge jewish influence and all of that and see things in an economic economically reductionist lens or repeat mantras about how multiculturalism, multiracialism, and diversity is like a strength.
Starting point is 02:25:29 The strong gods of real politic, they're coming back now. And one of the actual existential fights that's going to rear its head, it's going to be dealing with the Jewish question. And to paraphrase Peter Brimelo, in a metaphorical sense it will come down to blood in the sense there's going to be a struggle it's not going to just be like a friendly debate any longer
Starting point is 02:25:58 especially as our societies break down and these antagonisms ultimately surface because you can keep society in a depoliticized state and sedated with cap shit stuff porn drugs and all of that but eventually
Starting point is 02:26:14 nature has a way of correcting itself and these type of battles that are put off for a few decades, they're eventually going to come. And that's why it's very important for people to always get their basics sorted out and prepare for this because there will come a time for us, whether it's tomorrow,
Starting point is 02:26:35 10 years or now, 20 years from now, where we will have to step up to the plate to shape history. And it's always good to have done the work before so that you're not learning on the fly or, God forbid, in you follow the battlefield but that's the thing why we need to always keep moving forward and adding to our knowledge and to our experiences about this because the the fictional society we're living in before as me as warped people's minds with regards to reality but now that we're seeing a breakdown of the system a form of judeo accelerationism especially on the
Starting point is 02:27:16 geopolitical sense but also So as the system breaks down on all fronts for the economy, the culture, and all of that, there is going to be a power vacuum and who's going to fill that vacuum will shape the course of history. And if the good guys what to do that, well, you got to put in the work and get ready for that because having the right ideas is simply not enough. One of the things I noticed about this too is that, you know, who's talking about deportations? I think you mentioned this earlier, Jose, you know. All of a sudden, all of the energy is, hey, look over there.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Why? Well, because what's happening here? I mean, the promises that we heard about the mass deportations and you get the southern border closed, but then you have the northern border and anyone who knows anything about what's going on in Canada, should probably see the Canadian border is a bigger threat to us right now than even the southern border. But, you know, actually, if you didn't have the military traipsing all over the world, you could actually, you know, Ron Paul talked about this years ago. If you don't have the military, if you don't have bases in, you know, 112 countries, then you can bring those people home
Starting point is 02:28:46 and you can make sure that the people who are coming into this country actually belong here. One thing to quickly point out, too, you can, I mean, if this whole Iran thing just turns into a geopolitical and geopolitical and geo-economic debacle, rest assured, the Republicans are going to get wrecked in the midterms. And you can just say goodbye to any legislative, long-lasting legislative efforts to restrict immigration ever being passed. because of a split Congress. So, I mean, the stuff, what ultimately, the system is what it does. And when you see that the political system just prioritizes these wars over the stuff that politicians campaign on, like, say, immigration restriction like Trump did, and all of his presidential runs, it just goes to show you it's captured that way.
Starting point is 02:29:41 And this makes people have to answer tough questions about who actually is the sovereign here. But yeah, I mean, we have to reassess a lot of things. Many people that have been operating under really flawed political assumptions or engaging in wishful thinking and bad political behavior are going to have to take stock and recognize that some of the things they learned were obviously wrong and they just have to adapt. But one thing is for sure, we should always be looking at politicians track records, their funding sources. the people they network with over the years so that you don't get duped by the next populace snake oil salesman. Oh, that's a good point, yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Some of the work you have to do is monitoring your allies or your potential allies at the very least. That's an excellent point. Yeah, we also have to see who is working with them. And we need to know. We need to know who's supporting them. as they're doing this. I think I said this on the episode I recorded this afternoon with Dodson and Modod,
Starting point is 02:30:57 but Fox News is saying, oh, Iran, 26 is nothing like Iraq 2003. And, well, that's actually correct. It's more, what it could more turn into is Iraq 1992 to 2000. and two, which results in Aboots on the ground invasion. Because this is pretty much how that all started. Take out, you know, go in there. The difference with Iraq War I was they didn't take out Saddam, but they're not going to be taking out the leader.
Starting point is 02:31:40 What are they going to do here? They don't even have, they don't have a plan right now. I mean, right before I heard this last night, but right before we went on the air, it was revealed that the three F-15s that got shot down over Kuwait. We're shot down by a Kuwaiti F-18A in a quote-unquote friendly fire. It's a cluster fuck what's going on over there. Yeah. Yep. That's what I was saying earlier.
Starting point is 02:32:12 I really think you're seeing a lot of people that don't know what to do. I mean, both in a larger sense as far as politically or allegiance-wise, but I mean, I'm also meaning it in a more micro sense. You've got so many of these militaries, so many of these organizations, military and non-military and non-military alike, they're just rife with incompetence. They're just rife with buffoons. They just don't know what they're doing. And so many people have been chosen because of either DEI or just nepotism, if you're
Starting point is 02:32:46 dealing with other parts of the world where nepotism is just incredibly rife. Like, I mean, this is just going to be, it would be funny if it weren't so tragic. But the problem is it's tragic. It's incredibly tragic. And as you said earlier, like, I do, why are we even here? Like, we have so much, we have so, why are even there? We have so much to do here. These people need to be watching our border.
Starting point is 02:33:15 And I understand I'm on record as saying that you don't use the military as a law enforcement arm. And I'm not backpedaling from that. But they should be monitoring the border. It should be a joint venture with U.S. Border Patrol and all that. And just, hey, we see somebody coming. You go snag him. There's no reason we can't use the military to observe and monitor and to pass on information to an internal law enforcement agency. There's no reason we can't do that.
Starting point is 02:33:44 For crying out loud, I thought that's what the point. I mean, I'm being a bit tongue in cheek here, but that's what I thought the point of the Patriot Act was. I mean, we all know that wasn't really it, but that's what we were sold it to be. This big means of all these huge organizations working together hand in hand to keep America safe. And, okay, well, can we have it actually do what it was promised to do? The answer is obviously not. this is just, as you said, this is just another distraction and it's going to prove to be an extremely expensive one in one way or another, whether it being military costs and lives in just a tension
Starting point is 02:34:26 that's better placed elsewhere or a combination thereof, but it is going to be extremely costly. One of the things about it is that we're not going to know how costly because we become so much like Israel that we're going to hide how badly things are turning out. So the CIA station got hit in the Saudi capital and a drone strike. Iranian missile hit the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East. I mean, there are reports out there that, and I think this is on Fox News, actually, 650 U.S. military personnel are killed or wounded in this retaliatory operation. I don't think we're ever going to know because they're going to want us to be like,
Starting point is 02:35:21 look, this is a walk in the park. So just, you know, cheer it on. And, you know, it's like, I mean, I'm not anti-war. If we need to go to war for something, something that benefits us that we're, that is actually a threat to us or is going to be a great benefit to us, you know, mostly something defensive. I have no problem with that. But I mean, we're told clearly by the Secretary of State and the Speaker of the House, I mean, the third in line to the presidency, that this is a war for Israel. And I mean, sorry, I don't, Israel doesn't mean anything to me.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Yeah, a cosign 100%. I find it baffling that that American society found involvement in Vietnam. I mean, obviously not exactly the same people in the different times, different places, but I do find it fascinating that the American people found Vietnam on the whole more distasteful than they find this. It's like I don't even, what? I just, I'm not saying either of them are really great causes, but for goodness sake, like what we literally have no interest in this whatsoever. I don't understand like, or if we want to go back further with the Cuban missile crisis, that was a legitimate concern. Hey, these things are being put in our backyard.
Starting point is 02:37:03 We need to worry about this because they can reach us here. Like that, okay, whether we want to say how it was handled is right or wrong, that's fine. That can be a whole other conversation. But to me, like to go on to your statement, Pete, yeah, there are sometimes. There are reasons to go to war. There are reasons to say to get serious and say, yeah, that we can't allow this. We're not, we're not going to have this. But like this, I mean, if you had told me, I'll be brutally honest here, if you had told me,
Starting point is 02:37:32 hey, Charles, I just got word that the U.S. Navy is attacking Chinese ships at sea because they're just utterly obliterating the maritime ecosystem, the oceanic ecosystem. They're just, they're going to starve, you know, huge swaths of the planet with just their rapaciousness. I'd be like, okay, that's a good use of the military then. You know, hats off to. They earn their 15% off at home Depot now as far as I'm concerned. God bless him. But this, we, what? Like, if you want me to, if I were in charge of the military, I could think of about 50 things that are more righteous cause than this one from an American perspective. Yeah, I think this moment is the silver lining here in the Iran conflict is that it is truly power revealing itself. There's no
Starting point is 02:38:32 way you could spin it that this is like a fight for like an abstraction like democracy or whatever this is a fight for world jewelry for Israel and there and it's good because it's now waking a lot of people up to how this ethnic clique is what runs is the sovereign especially on foreign policy and this can also open up discussions to about organizing jury's influence on domestic policy from mass migration, transgenderism, and other forms of degeneracy. And I do think that in this type of crisis, there's always a silver lining, and we should always try to exploit that because it ain't over until the fat lady sings. And that's why even in struggle and in these moments of great upheaval, there is a way out. And those who
Starting point is 02:39:29 are innovative and resilient, we'll find them, find new avenues to break the cycle and forge a different path that we've been on. Yeah, because as you said just now, I mean, now we can, they just reveal themselves. And they're doing it. And you were talking about just now, Jose, with the whole, it prompts, it prompts people to ask now, what else are these people involved in? And I mean, as we've passed around between us and the, between us is here and us is in the larger section of the right on Twitter and other places, other platforms. You know, we've passed them, you know, they themselves, that community themselves saying, hey, we're responsible for all this.
Starting point is 02:40:16 I mean, it's always in a phrasing or in an emotive state of a grievance or smugness. But it's always, they're admitting it. Like, yeah, we're responsible for the Hartzeller Act. We're responsible for civil rights. We're responsible for transgenderism. We're responsible for feminism. It's like, really, cool. Thanks for telling me.
Starting point is 02:40:40 I appreciate that. And now I don't look like a coup blaming you. Now I can just have you tell everybody that. So as you say, Jose, yeah, there are silver linings to this. There are white pills. And remember, like, this is the same community. that talk about the rabbi and the golem. Like that's just because it's true.
Starting point is 02:40:59 Like they'll build these things and then they'll come back and get them. That's what it does. It's what's going to happen again. And that's not even me being optimistic. That's just history repeating itself. It's the pattern repeating itself because their their destruction, their failures are baked into the cake. Their success is baked into the cake, but their failure is too.
Starting point is 02:41:24 And that's just how it is. They're just locked in a cycle. And sadly, we're locked in it at this moment with them. But once we break away, again, it goes back to exile and containment. Just get away from them so you don't get locked in their self-destructive cycle. Yeah, people, they just really need to, they don't need to. I ask them to wake up to that. those the um you know there are things you can do just try not to do business with businesses
Starting point is 02:41:57 that are going to benefit them and you know certainly you know do everything you can just to you know boycott those businesses you know not boycott like you're going to go out there with a frigging placard although if you want to do that that's that be funny um but um you know personally just because it's going to make you feel better. You know, because, yeah, there are so many people who black pill over this, and I don't black pill over this. I mean, this is just, this is history. We're in a part of history now that other people have been in before, and it always comes to an end. They don't win. They don't win. They can't win. And I'm not even talking about, you know, that, oh, some biblical prophecy. So I'm about, like,
Starting point is 02:42:45 here, in, you know, on earth. They don't want to. So, you know, just keep pushing forward, keep doing what you can do and align yourself with people who are noticing the same things. You know, if your parents are if your parents are frigging boomers and they're, you know, you know, cheering this, you don't have to frigging them. You know, don't do that. As soon as you disown your family, the Jews win. That's what they want. They want you to be deracinated while they're not. So just, you know, do what you need to do to get through
Starting point is 02:43:29 and prepare for, you know, prepare everything for the future. And, you know, the generation that comes next, try to do the best you can and build something that, build something that they can't touch. And I think that starts between your ears. you have to build up a mentality that they that they can't touch that they're not going to own and I think that's very important agreed cosigned wholeheartedly 100% really nothing else to add yep all right let's get out of here um Jose uh do some plugs man you've been working your
Starting point is 02:44:09 ass off lately I'm sure there's plenty of places you can point people to yes so you can catch my work on substack Jose Niño unfiltered Jose alnino.org go there to get my podcast and also my articles which have been much more prolific. I'm also at the Occidental Observer.
Starting point is 02:44:34 That's where I write more about Jewish influence and then you get my regular takes on politics at on Twitter slash X at Jose Al Nino. Charles? I don't have anything to plug.
Starting point is 02:44:49 I've got a lot going on on my personal life and professional life. I'm trying to sort out. But I will always say, I'm always open hearing from people. You can always contact me through Twitter at Whiskey and Ashes. Or you're always welcome to drop me a line on telegram at the same address. Always interested in hearing from people, especially not going to lie, especially with people and say, hey, I caught you on this program. And I like what you had to say. It helps me, it helps me keep going.
Starting point is 02:45:13 It's not just for my ego. It's just, hey, makes me feel like I'm hurt. out there and it makes me feel like I'm I've been at least I'm doing something for people that I'm affecting change in whatever small ways I can so that's all I would I'd have to plug or to offer your audience beat as always thank you so much for having me on your program of course and I'll have your Amazon page link in the show notes thank you gentlemen appreciate you we're back thought crime syndicate gentlemen how are you doing hey in there Pete how about yourself Doing good, Jose.
Starting point is 02:45:51 I'm doing well, pretty busy, but I'm doing life. DE, missed you last time, man. How are you doing? Maybe DE stepped away for a second. I did, just sorry about that. It sounded like the cat broke something and I got to get you. Because cats are assholes. I love cats, probably because I'm an asshole.
Starting point is 02:46:15 But I love my fellow. of my fellow assholes. So you got anything on your mind? Do you wanted to start us off, get us going with? Well, as much as I enjoyed talking hockey, $8 gas is going to be a thing, Jose and I did 45 minutes on it, but I think it's worth talking about it.
Starting point is 02:46:35 It being Eastern and everything, right? Like, everything we've dealt with for the last 30 years, politically speaking, in terms of war, is just the Jews saying, give us Barabbas, and decided to make war in the rest of the world. and they've done nothing but that for 2,000 years.
Starting point is 02:46:53 And it's, this is, you know, between the cuts that Trump is trying to make to like, mail service in rural America and a bunch of other crap, you know, millions and millions of dollars. That until you deal with the occupied government, nothing else matters. So I guess that's worth talking. about I mean I don't know you're probably tired to talk about the war so if there's something else you want to talk about that's fine with me well I mean I mean I'll just make one comment on the war you know it was something I was listening I can't remember who I was
Starting point is 02:47:32 listening to today but um you know they they're an insider and they're like Netanyahu tried to get George W. Bush to attack Iran he tried to get Barack Obama to attack Iran he tried to get Joe Biden to attack Iran. And somehow the three of them, and Bill Clinton as well, the four of them said no. Said, no, that's just a bridge too far. It will even bomb fucking Somalia. You know, okay, sure, why not? But it took this fucking guy.
Starting point is 02:48:12 This guy. And you know what? A lot of people said this before, before, when he was running for president, probably Jose was one of them, said, no, the reason he's going to get elected because he's going to be able, he's going to be the excuse to do shit that is going to piss everyone off. And it certainly looks that that is the way it turned out. Yeah, it's exactly the way things turn out, right? Like, no matter what, he's the accelerations candidate because the system is broken now.
Starting point is 02:48:45 I mean, I did an episode of the Inquisition when you were out, Pete, with our friends Stormy and Carl Dahl. And no matter what, like, this, this president disposition is broken now. Because, I mean, guys like you and me, like the four of us were talking about Jews five years ago, right? I mean, we didn't know each other five years ago, but separately each of us were talking about Jews. and their bailful influence on the society. But now everybody knows, right? And it's not just guys who listen to weird podcasts like this one that now know about the fact that our government's occupied.
Starting point is 02:49:34 That's the important thing, you know, is that our government's occupied, you know, if you want to call gay Satanist pedophile occupied government, I can't disagree with you and that's probably why Trump got got in you know I mean he's he's been importing uh
Starting point is 02:49:56 Eastern European women for what 50 years I mean when did when did he Maria Ivanka like in the 70s probably yeah 70s or 80s right right so I mean this this is a guy who's who's known vices is women I wouldn't be surprised if the, you know, he was boy good friends with Roy Cohen. Roy Cohen was doing the same thing that Jeffrey Epstein was doing on a different scale and a different time period.
Starting point is 02:50:26 You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they got their hooks into them in the 70s or 80s. Yeah, and people will say, well, you know, in the Epstein files. He's not in the Epstein files for anything unless he doesn't have to be. No, it doesn't have to be. But let's not forget that like more than likely Monica Lewinsky was a massage. asset. So this isn't even like the first president in my lifetime that was compromised by these people and Bill Clinton couldn't do it.
Starting point is 02:50:53 Right? It's not like Bill Clinton's not a sociopath. I mean, look at, you're old enough to know and remember, I think probably Charles and Jose as well that what they did in Mina, Arkansas to cover up their, you know, the, like the 92 election was like two CIA connected cocaine smugglers and the crazy guy. Right, like that's who was who was running in 92. Is both H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton had connections too. And, you know, they make a movie.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Starring Tom Cruise 20 years too late after it's too late to do anything about it. They'll be, oh yeah, we actually were kind of smuggling cocaine with Barry Seal into Arkansas. And HW, I think I was listening to Horton talk. and he was saying that H.W. They wanted, they were pushing him to do more than Iraq. You know, you're right there, going to Iran kind of thing. And he said no. And that's when they just decided, well, you're not going to be president.
Starting point is 02:51:56 And they said HW admitted afterwards. He goes, the reason I didn't become president. No, he said, no, he actually said this. And Horton quoted this as somebody really, close to H.W. at the time said Jews. James Baker. Yeah. They don't vote for us.
Starting point is 02:52:17 James Baker said fuck them. They don't vote for us anyway. And I want to say it was the book Jewish power where he was trying to get them just like slow down. Not not not do something in Palestine.
Starting point is 02:52:33 But like slow down because he was trying to manage you know, the world's very chaotic places. The Soviet Union just fell. He was trying to manage things. And I think it was the book Jewish Power by J.J. Goldberg, where he talks about this, where basically Jews tanked his, you know, you can maybe say put Perrault as a spoiler or because he had intelligence community connections. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:52:53 Maybe Perrault was just genuine. Certainly Stockdale was a hero. But like, they cost him the election in 92 for sure. Like the Jews withdrew the support, got behind Clinton, used their media manipulation, you know, called him a wimp. wasn't he the youngest fighter pilot in World War II? Hadn't he been part of the CIA? How do you get, how do you get away with calling this guy a wimp?
Starting point is 02:53:24 Right? And that might seem like irrelevant. You know, this guy's one-term president from 35 years ago, you know, before most our listeners were probably born. You know, I was in short pants. But this is what happened. And every president since has been some degree or other compromised by Israel. and now everyone knows.
Starting point is 02:53:50 And that's the... I can't think of anything else there is to talk about. I know it gets tiresome to hear, just constantly banging on about the Jews. But what else is there? I don't know if you... Yeah, I don't know if you heard this week. I was saying that, you know,
Starting point is 02:54:09 here in my small town with 2,500 people with 12 Baptist churches, a business that I frequent, the person who always takes care of me there is like a 60 year old white woman and she this week she tried to j pill me yeah that's awesome if you've lost 60 year old baptist ladies in Alabama you're yeah you're cook yeah and they are game over yes i mean they're they're you know their power is is just slowly draining away because they rely upon, you know, they rely upon the population to protect them.
Starting point is 02:54:56 They rely upon the population to look upon them as victims and to feel sorry for them, which is always the, which is always the most ironic thing when they're like, oh, you just blame all your problems on Jews. It's like, well, where did I learn that for? If that's true, where'd I learn that for? It's like, and so, you know, she's like, someone. me she's like Hamas takes hostages and when they release them they're all you know they're fat and they've been fed Israel releases hostages and it looks like they were doing they were doing medical experiments on them and then I was like all right that opens the door okay yeah everything they accused Mangala of they do right including the prisoner rape yeah we went right down the just went
Starting point is 02:55:41 right down you know I mean and this isn't everybody is telling me this everyone is contacting me to go, yeah, I mean, I went someplace and somebody tried to J-Pill me. And it's like, well, fuck. I mean, it looks like you're going to get to do that hockey podcast full time sooner than you thought, Pete. But the, but you know, it's, it's also one of those things where it's like, okay, they still have a lot of wealth. They still have a lot of power.
Starting point is 02:56:10 Still, you know, the diaspora, the diaspora is the biggest problem. and it's you know just like it took rome 200 300 years to fall it's going to take a while we just have to be patient we just have to keep doing what we're doing don't even really have to change anything we're doing we just have to keep doing what we're doing yeah i think it's interesting d i by the way i appreciate you dropping my name recently on a on a podcast where you were talking about my linking the jews to a very spiritually feminine way of doing things very spiritual Feminine approach. I think it's interesting that we had the manosphere come up. I want to say, God, it's been 15, 20 years now. It's how long the manosphere has been more or less a thing,
Starting point is 02:56:57 with varying levels of prominence in the counterculture, but it's been a thing. I think it's interesting that we become aware of, as you like to say, the WQ for a while and then quickly on its heels, we're aware of the JQ. And I don't think that's a coincidence. I think one is naturally flowing into the other because once you start to see certain patterns of behaviors you see where those pattern of behaviors begin where they end and where they mirror one another so i don't really uh yeah i don't really think it's a coincidence and i mean i'll just use pete's own words it's like oh well where did i learn that it's like well yeah exactly where did we learn that where did that come from well and to give you an idea like the game by neil strous that book
Starting point is 02:57:43 came out in 2005. So that's pretty much the advent of the Manosphere that book and then the associated forums that propped up around it. So we're looking at, and I know Jose's got some experience with the Manifere stuff, but there was the 2005-ish, that book came out,
Starting point is 02:58:00 Minchin's Mild Bug, Curtis Yarvins, started writing. That's how I got my Dark Enlightenment. You know, I started reading Curtis in 2004, 2005. It had failed, but excellent Ron Paul presidential campaign in 2008. We're coming up on 20 years of Dave Smith did a really great show with Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 02:58:19 I think everyone should listen to that. And not that I agree with Dave or Tucker on everything, but I think they're both honest guys. And the only reason this show or anything else that we do has any cachet is like, I might disagree with Pete. In fact, I disagree with Pete about a lot of stuff behind the scenes. But the reason Pete's my friend, the reason Jose is my friend, the reason Charles is my friend, is none of us try to bullshit you about anything. Yeah, he has never once bullshitted me about anything. He said, I'm wrong, he said, I disagree with you. He's always been respectful and told me why.
Starting point is 02:58:55 And the mainstream media lies to you about everything. They lied to you about COVID. They lied to you about elections. They lied to you about Jews. They lied to you about women. They lied to you about race. They lied to you about foreign policy. Like, they lied to you about food.
Starting point is 02:59:12 Like, what don't they lie about? Yeah. I want to draw a distinction here very briefly. too, not to stop your flow here, but just to say, too, like, we could misinform people, but there's a difference between misinform and disinformed. There's lies and then there's a misinforming. Like, if I tell you the wrong time of my doctor's appointment, that doesn't mean I lied to you. It means I'm human and I made a mistake. So this kind of draws off of what you were saying, Dee, regarding we can have a disagreement. Maybe my perspective is skewed. Maybe I'm
Starting point is 02:59:47 something that you saw or maybe I saw something that you missed and we disagree that's fine but that's not dishonesty that's just a matter of perspective and maybe and maybe a human error but nobody here is lying to anyone I'll give you two entirely different things I'll give you a perfect example I on a recent show I said there were 90 million people in Egypt and I was wrong there are in fact 120 million people in Egypt right I was working off of old information or a number that I'd seen somewhere and gotten wrong. Okay. Happens to make mistakes.
Starting point is 03:00:23 The point I was making was true, and I wasn't trying to deliberately lie to people. What, you know, starting in the late aughts, right, the system cracks that were showing are starting to show that some of us saw back then, you know, the catastrophic relationships between men and women. Well, I'm sorry, like, the Roche, saw that in 2007. Right? Like, as bad as things are now,
Starting point is 03:00:52 other guys saw it happening 15, 20 years ago. You know, the problems with inflation in central banks, like guys like Pete who did the libertarian thing, they saw the problems with the economy and all the inflation that we're seeing now. They saw all that, you know, 15, 20 years ago when Ron Paul was running in 2008. And nobody who's paying attention
Starting point is 03:01:16 believes the mainstream narrative anymore and nobody who's like if I if I'm constantly telling you the sky is green right then my model sucks now occasionally it's green but most of the time it's blue
Starting point is 03:01:39 and then you know it kind of turns to orange and red and stuff during sunsets or whatever but how can anybody constantly when the model that you're presented as the way things work like there's democracy and we vote and then we get what we want and you know people argue in congress and bills get passed like no that's all horseshit like banks by congressman because you know i mean i'm not saying you should avail yourselves or the services but like the gal in the skippy dress showing some leg downtown at two in a morning she's actually
Starting point is 03:02:16 you know selling and what's your buying is what she's selling in Congress they lie to you and say oh I'm going to work for you I have fabulous hair and cap T vote for me and they're working for somebody else 100% of the time with like maybe two exceptions and then Marjorie Taylor Green left Congress so what how many like Thomas Massey maybe Pete? I mean, Jose, you guys pay more attention to this stuff than I do. Is there anybody in Congress besides Rand Paul and Thomas Massey that are worth a damn? Well, when it comes to that, yeah, when it comes to that subject, I mean, there are some of the people on the other side of the aisle that are, that will, I believe, if they get power again in 2028, they'll push back because I think they know that they're like, their whole base doesn't like, these people. I mean, well, nobody could be, I could be wrong and I could be delusional, but,
Starting point is 03:03:25 um, you know, I get the idea that the left is at this point, whatever, the Democrats, whatever you want to call them is way more, way more, um, especially on the ground than the younger politicians is way more like, screw this. We can't do this anymore. Yeah. I think like one thing that I'm noticing now but the Jews have gotten so desperate especially like liberal Zionists that they're now doing a rear
Starting point is 03:03:57 guard action where they're they are positioning themselves against A PAC but they'll be supported by other like lesser known groups like J Street which is like a Soros funded liberal Zionist outfit or some other organization
Starting point is 03:04:13 that doesn't have as explicitly of a pro-Jewish pro-Zionist type of branding, but that's still like functionally Zionist when you look at its political actions. And that's what they're trying to do right now. But I think that's going to end up being like, like I said, like a rearguard action, that's not going to be able to contain this title wave. And I think the same thing's going to end up happening on the right because this is,
Starting point is 03:04:36 this is a historical process that is cyclical in nature where the, the broad Gentile population of a given polity. eventually revolts against the organized Jewish interests that have taken power economically and politically, and this is going to manifest itself in a different way, but this is a tale as old as time itself when it comes to Jewish and Gentile interactions over the course of thousands of years. Yeah, so put it bluntly,
Starting point is 03:05:11 we know how this is, we know that this is going to play out. We just don't know how this is going to play out. out at this point. Makes sense? Yes. Yes. Yeah. So I mean, there's there's a reason that the Jewish rabbi and the Gallum story comes from that community. I mean, there's a reason because it's just a truism. It may not, it may not be a European fairy tale, but it's their fairy tale. And just like European fairy tales, it's based in a reality. It's a lesson, but it's a lesson they never really seem to learn. And it goes back to what was said earlier in just this program already.
Starting point is 03:05:48 They build these golems and they hide behind them and they use them to carry out their will. And it's a cycle. Okay. So we know how to play this game again, very, very spiritually feminine. We pull people in. We get them to do what we want, dance to our tune, work from our puppet strings. And then eventually it gets noticed and it gets turned on us. As you say, like this is a cycle.
Starting point is 03:06:13 This will, this has happened. It is happening. It will happen again. The only thing is, is how will it, how exactly the chips will fall. But I would argue that we do know how they're going to fall in a broader sense, if not perhaps the exact specifics. Right. Well, it's Easter's,
Starting point is 03:06:32 so I've kind of got spiritual things on my mind, and there's a Catholic prayer that most people should know the glory be, you know, in Latin it's glory apaches, Cvili, spiritu, sancti, I don't know,
Starting point is 03:06:45 anyway, my Latin's terrible. it's as it was the beginning is now and ever shall be is the English at the end um and that's just like that's how it is right it was in the beginning like ever since they said 2,000 years ago has bled be upon us and our children right they've declared war on the rest of the world and for the first time in history they've lost power and everyone's seen it all at the same time. There's no there's no bolthole they can go anymore, right? They tried, I think
Starting point is 03:07:26 Stormy's talked about this, like, they tried to go to China and that failed. They're going to try to go to India and that fail. Like, I don't think it'll work. Like, you know, India's going to be, India's been five years away from being a superpower for like the last 30 years. Yeah, I mean, if you're turning to India that you're hitting rock bottom, like, that's, You'll, you'll, you'll get sick of fancy there for them, but you're not, what are they going to build for you? What are they going to? What are you going to, how are you going to be a parasite off of them?
Starting point is 03:08:04 Right. Yeah. Like, it's like a tick with ticks, you know, like, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, you'll get poo filled, go fill to fish. But, like, that's only, that's the best you're going to get. get some very repulsive type of
Starting point is 03:08:22 cuisines yeah being Holy Saturday and penantential like thinking of like an Indian crossed with Jewish food and just oh vomit
Starting point is 03:08:33 yeah imagine the smells right oh Lord it's like WMD in of itself and and really I mean
Starting point is 03:08:47 yeah we have all this like why is there a birth race citizen why is this even a thing you know like oh the supreme court is going to like you really think that absent like jewish control of law schools that we would have i mean not just not just the uh you know ridiculousness of like a Jewish lesbian sitting on the Supreme Court telling Americans like, hey, your country doesn't deserve to have a future, right? And Katanji Brin Jackson, like a literal retard, a literal retard sitting in the Supreme Court, right? Like, does anyone seriously think that Jews weren't behind both those people?
Starting point is 03:09:38 I mean, I know it without even thinking about it. And I know that by the time this gets posted, someone will post in the comments like, yeah, here's the, here's the, here's the, here's the, here's the, here's the, here's the, you know, Katanji Brown Jackson or Sonia Sotomayor or Amy Coney Barrett or anything, right? Like, like, because that's, that's, that's who's been, you know, running our laws. And it's like, well, why is this even a question birthright citizenship? Why does it, like, this is stupid. You know, 1.1 million Chinese people have gone to them.
Starting point is 03:10:17 Northern Mariners Islands and given birth there, and then all of a sudden, they're Americans? What? You know, like 10% of what? Also, if you want to destroy us, you can, but it seems like the final boss of that whole thing would be to get us into a war we can't win. You know, everybody's like, oh, you know, I don't know if anyone saw Trump's speech the other night. it was just absolutely insane. It was, I think, I genuinely think he's sundowning and is like where Biden was in 2018,
Starting point is 03:10:57 2019, where he's clearly going senile. Well, but there's two ways to go in senile. There's the way that you go where, where, like Biden did, where it's obvious he's not all there.
Starting point is 03:11:09 And then there's that way where you're not all there, but you're still belligerent, you know, where you're still, you just, you know what I'm talking about. You've experienced this. But it's like, oh, get into this war.
Starting point is 03:11:23 Iran is nothing and everything. So what happens? Like he gives this speech, which I think Daryl Cooper described it correctly. It just basically was like they put a bunch of his truth social posts up on the teleprompter. And he was just reading them. I mean, it just sounded like truth social posts.
Starting point is 03:11:40 And then within like the next, what, 48 hours, F-15E destroyed. A10C destroyed. A10C damage, return to base. CH 47 destroyed in Kuwait. F-16 reportedly damaged return to base. H-H-60-2-H-60W's damage returned to base. F-16 squawk over Iraq damage, return to base. KC-135R damage, return to base.
Starting point is 03:12:13 MQ9, destroyed. of one of the few Ewax planes on earth like radar destroyed this is the worst this is the worst conflict the u.s air force has been in it since vietnam yeah that was all in one day it was literally i was in a 24 hour period and you're up there going oh they're so destroyed they need to give up and they just need to come to the table we're going to bomb them back to the stone age you know and i mean i'm not going to tell you where i might have got this information from but i got it from a pretty good source at that missing weapon system officer is a woman. Just think about that. Yeah. I mean, that's insane. You know, I mean, God bless Joe Kent for speaking the truth. But why are we said
Starting point is 03:13:02 it mom? Why are there moms in the Air Force? Why are their moms in the U.S. military getting deployed to go get shot at for Israel when their children are at home who need their mom. Okay? Like, this is insane. Because we become Israel. Because we have to become Israel. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:28 And things like blowing up bridges and blowing up schools and you can, I don't know whether the school thing was a deliberate on purpose thing or not. I'd like to believe it was an accident. But we both know that the Jews would happily feed his false targeting information and blow up a school. It'd have us help us blow up a school or help us, you know, blow up a school for them, just out of spite. And because they killed thousands of children in Gaza. Thousands. And they're probably, and they're busy, you know, destroying Christian villages in Lebanon right now.
Starting point is 03:14:04 Because for them, the most important thing is while there's a war on, you know, strike while they're iron's hot and then established facts on the ground so that, you know, the northern border of Israel is the Latani River and that we can just suck that thing dry and we don't have to depend so much on, you know, desinalization plants. And never mind, like, they're constantly committing war crimes and they're constantly, you know, like starting shit. And, you know, like Dave Smith, who I don't always agree on and, you know, and is, Jewish, but he made a great point. We're at the point now where Wesley Clark, the guy, the general who's like, yeah, we're going to do the clean break memo and kill, you know, seven countries in five years.
Starting point is 03:14:50 Well, like, you know, in five years from now, when the, when the war with Iran is still going, get back to me, bud, about how you're going to win. We don't have the ability to win this war. We don't have the personnel that could win this war. This is not 2002 where you have a bunch of you know corn fed white boys who grew up in the 90s
Starting point is 03:15:17 and loved American grew up in a peaceful, prosperous society. You have a lot of very desperate people in America. You have a lot of very unhealthy people in America. You have a lot of people who watch their brothers, uncles, dads fight in all these useless wars
Starting point is 03:15:36 and they're not. not fucking going, dude. And if, you know, what, like the majority of people under, under 20 are now, like, non-white in the United States of America, you're not getting a bunch of brown kids that you've told all their lives that, like, America's brown or evil because it's colonialist and white to go die in a colonialist white people war in Iraq. Exactly. It ain't happening, chief. Yeah, well, I mean, this is, this is one of the few white pills that I kept trying to bring up about what with the 2020 election. It's just like, you know, you can't get these people to vote. And I don't care what anybody tells me. It's like we learned in 2020 that all their
Starting point is 03:16:22 overwhelming preponderance of votes from non-white communities is just fraud. It's just the Democrats filling them in and putting them in there. It's not that they wouldn't vote. I'm not saying they wouldn't vote Democrat if they did vote. They absolutely would. But I'm saying, they don't even get that far. They don't bother. They're not interested. You can't get these people to show up and do that kind of stuff, not in anywhere near the numbers they claim. So for people to try and tell me that they're going to fight in a war and defend America, just like you're saying, and I agree with you 100%. Like, that's just ludicrous. They're not going to do it. You can't get them to show up to vote. You can't get them to go to work half the time on time. You think they're going to
Starting point is 03:17:06 fight in a war? Are you insane? And even if they did, let's go out on some huge limb and say that they will. Well, are they going to have the ability to even wage it? Are they even going to have the ability to use any of this equipment? I mean, for crying out loud, so many of these manuals are already written at like a third grade level. What are they going to do? It's just laughable. It's laughable in every sense of the word.
Starting point is 03:17:32 Yeah, a lot of those non-white troops are just already like busy committing crimes in like those military bases because like if you look at the state of a lot of military bases like the US they're actually like quite dangerous and I and there's like a good book um the fort brag cartel by Seth Hartworthy he documents how even in like more elite units that have also have seen like some of this non-white demographic shift like do you see the same type of behavior there. Like they're not if you're not they're not going to be fighting on the front lines. A lot of these people, they're just going to try to find positions like administrative positions or just like do nothing jobs. So that gives them like cover so they can
Starting point is 03:18:17 sling dope and get involved in like all other types of antisocial shit. Yeah. That's that's a hundred percent right. And I can't I can't give absolute particulars for this or I would just to bring receipts. But I still know the people involved so I don't want to do it. But I mean, I've I've had guys outright tell me guys I knew in the Air Force saying oh they're they're making meth on base they're they're doing tons of stuff like they're using the armory they're raiding the armory I've known guys in the army that have told me oh yeah there's basically two big gangs here and they're like you said Jose slinging dope or they're just stealing weapons or ammunition or like oh yeah it happens it happens a lot and you just have to have the right people and the right
Starting point is 03:19:04 locations to get away with it. How many rounds did we fire on the range? Well, we're going to change that number a little bit. And again, this isn't me making shit up. I've known people who've told me about it. So, yeah, like if not only that, Jose, or you're familiar with Los Zetas, right? You know who they are? Yeah. Okay. Well, who are Los Zatos? You want to give us the TLDR on that? Who are they? Yeah, I'm not as, as authoritative on that. For what I've, I've gleaned through some articles and videos I've listened to, they were former, a lot of them were like former special forces like. Bingo. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:44 And they were involved like Fort Bragg and like a lot of these, a lot of these people like they use the, if they're able to ascend the ranks, they, it's part of like a broader type of career move where they're going to try to pivot towards just being a career criminal because a lot of these people, there is like a pipeline of like U.S. military to cartel pipeline where they just become like a Sicario like in Mexico or in Latin America because the US defense community is has been thoroughly embedded with
Starting point is 03:20:17 Latin American cartels like from the jump and that is like a pipeline like these people they're not there to like defend the country they're just using that the way to get like experience weaponry drug smuggling and all that so they can like translate those skills and apply them like once they become part of like a transnational
Starting point is 03:20:33 criminal outfit like defending the homeland is is like a very low priority for these people yeah thank you jose that was absolutely excellent that was exactly the rundown i wanted thank you very much yes well well from from what i understand is it's not only like nons doing this there are high IQ white guys i mean like in you know in top tier outfits who were who are doing this and why would you, even if you can't articulate it, you know that this, the military isn't for what you, what it's supposed to be. It's not a patriot. I mean, who's joining the military to be patriotic? I mean, that number has got to be really low. It's a jobs program. It's a place to go. That's actually a really good point that Seth Harp notes in the Fort Bride cartel that even
Starting point is 03:21:33 some of these special forces guys, like some of these white guys, they were actually became more anti-war after they got this disillusion with the Iraq War and Afghanistan War. And as a result of that, they channeled that energy to just do a lot of like antisocial criminal activity and all of that. And you, you turn people into like violent sociopaths and you tell them that like, hey, I'm going to turn you into like a violent sociopathic killer. And you're going to be really, really good at it. it. And you do it for bullshit reasons and you lie to them about it. And then you take away,
Starting point is 03:22:10 like, you show that like, oh, yeah, actually, like, you died so that, like, the Epstein class can get away with killing kids in another country. Like, of course they're nihilistic. You know, you told them it was for patriotism and for God and mom and apple pie in America. And then come to find out, like, oh, yeah, you became this, like, violent sociopathic killer. And I'm not saying that's everybody. But, like, with, like, substance. abuse problems and you can't sleep and and the only god we have is money and then you're like well wait a minute why am i you know sitting here as an e7 or whatever making you know less than a hundred grand a year and shitty base housing when like i'm one of you know the best killers on the planet
Starting point is 03:22:56 yes exactly you know like i have a very particular set of skills right like what else are they going to do? Well, it's, yeah, this is agreeing and amplifying. Yes. And you also have to realize that let's, let's even say, let's go so far as to say everything you're saying is absolutely correct. And there is like, what else are they going to do? What other job skills do they have to kill people and break things? That's their job skill set. And that's what they signed up to do. And that's what they were trained to do. And then they were put in a box that said break glass in case of conflict. And then they ran out and did it. Well, now they're out. of the box and what are you going to do with them? You've either got to keep them busy or they're
Starting point is 03:23:37 going to make them get back in the box. Bingo. They're the most dangerous people on earth. I would that and that's the point I'm just getting too deep. Here's the other problem is you have now created a bunch of wolves in a land of sheep. Right. And now like what do you think they're going to do? They're big well hey I can gobble all of you up no problem. I see how soft and flabby and nobody can fight and very few people can fight anymore or even even complain about the meal they got they're too afraid to start a conflict and you're going to put these people out in public like of course they're going to want to start gobbling everybody up why wouldn't they they just see it's like this is this is a land ripe for picking I put this out on Twitter
Starting point is 03:24:22 recently and I think about it a lot and I can't even tell you the show it's from because all I've ever seen is just this is just the meme it. And it's this man looking at this woman who didn't take in a punch to the face. And he says, you will not survive here. This is a land of wolves now. And you are not a wolf. And I think about that a lot because this is what we are coming into. And this is what people are failing to understand. They are failing to understand that the dominoes, I wrote about this, God, what is it now, D, 15 years ago I wrote this article, where I said, said, you know, your civilization has already collapsed. All of your, all of your institutions have
Starting point is 03:25:06 already collapsed. You just don't notice it yet because it's one big row of dominoes. You ever see them when you were younger? They're still on YouTube now where these people make these big, intricate diagrams out of dominoes and they tip one and you watch them all fall in these different patterns. Well, that's your civilization. That's your church. That's your government. That's your social fabric. That's your family unit. That's all of that. But if you, if you, don't see it yet, that's probably because the domino on your left and the domino on your right are still standing. But I solemnly assure you, and I'll use our Lord and Savior's words, I solemnly assure you that the dominoes beyond those have already fallen. And the ones on your
Starting point is 03:25:50 left and right are going to be teetering soon. So that's one of the reasons that I'm not surprised by any of this. And why that I say, if you think these people are going to fight for, for you know, God, mom and apple pie, you're insane. Because I wasn't even trained to be some badass. I wasn't even some sociopath. Okay, they gave me a gun and they trained me how to use it pretty well. Okay, but I've never claimed to be any big badass. And look what they did to me. They disabused me of that notion. Now, have I, you know, broken federal laws or gone against the government violently? No, I haven't. but it's obvious to anybody who's listen to me since my dismissal 20 years ago that I obviously am not their friend anymore.
Starting point is 03:26:35 We'll just say that. So what do you think a lot of other people have done? And what do you think a lot of these people do now? Like that just say, hey, okay, well, everything's falling apart. I'm just going to gobble up the sheep. I'll give you a perfect example. And that's Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan is a former Navy SEAL, former CIA guy.
Starting point is 03:26:54 you know he got bored and got into a bunch of drugs and stuff he shouldn't have he his family kind of pulled him out of that um he's furious you know he's and and you can say that it's probably an op that the CIA was like we need somebody with some credibility to get into this podcast base or we're screwed but he's constantly talking about like kids getting trafficked and um you know he's mad about the obscene stuff i don't know if he's genuine or no well there's there there is a i i know this i've been told this I believe it. There is a faction within the CIA that is just absolutely sick of the Mossad and they just want their fucking CIA back. Right.
Starting point is 03:27:34 Well, and another example with someone like that would be John Kariaku, right? Like he's former CIA and he went to prison for whistleblowing about the torture program. And, you know, he's talked openly about how Mossad will like take Americans dogs
Starting point is 03:27:49 and like torture your dog just for shits and giggles in Israel. Like, and oh, Tucker's CIA, his dad was CIA. Like, okay, so what? Yeah, you know, you know what? Wasps have mafias too. If you went to a nice school, it was the CIA.
Starting point is 03:28:05 If you were a low, low-class shit kick your hillbilly like me, guess what? It was the clan. That was a wasp mafia in 1957. Okay. It doesn't matter what, like, what their affiliations aren't. now, are they telling the truth and are they, you know, not lying about the most important issue in front of us, which is like our government is occupied by Israel. Like the only sexually normal person to sit in the Oval Office in the last three decades is George W. Bush and he was a
Starting point is 03:28:44 dry drunk. There might be some sort of awful weird thing. I mean, Pete, when did you know Obama was gay? The first time I saw him walk. Okay. But like, when did you read stuff like, oh, this, this, this dude is his career as a $3 bill when he spoke at the 2000 2004 convention yeah ZNC convention yeah Jose what about you
Starting point is 03:29:07 uh repeat that again when was the first time you like like when were you like this this dude is gay like Barack Obama when did you strongly suspect I would say probably during the campaign trail
Starting point is 03:29:24 yeah like just so 2007 and Charles probably are the same time. Yeah, I would say I was going to give the same answer, Jose did, probably around 2007 is where I would, where I would put it at. Yeah. Okay. So the three of us all knew that, or four of us all knew that like Obama was gay like 15 years ago at a minimum. And it's basically come out in the news that the dude was gay. And not a huge story. Like, wait, what? What? Like, like, the president of the United States was sexually blackmailable because he was gay in 2008.
Starting point is 03:30:09 And that Trump probably was also blackmailable. I don't know to what extent like he's, you know, whatever weird stuff he's gone up to. I don't know. But like Bill Clinton, blackmailed by Mossade, you know, who knows with Bush. Um, just kind of sociopathic and something seriously wrong with him. Like, this is the healthiest people. Of course, like the Sean Ryan's or the Tucker Carlson's or whoever else is or the John Kyriacus are upset. Like their kids can't live in America. There's no jobs.
Starting point is 03:30:56 I was talking with someone recently last couple days who's a high-ranking academic and has spent a lot of time in the educational system at the higher ed levels and we're sitting there drinking a beer and talking about stuff and he was like genuinely worried he's like all the stuff that I got my start in you know like my teaching assistant job my grading papers job my you know whatever that's all could be done by AI where's how is someone going to replace me in 15 years when Like they need that how is the person who needs that first step on the ladder going to like progress to where they get to me without being a rich kid in year in 2026? And the answer is a lot of those jobs are gone because AI is going to take them or foreigners are going to take them.
Starting point is 03:32:00 Right. And this is on purpose. You know, white men have been replaced in the labor market by women and non and foreigners and AI. on purpose. Well, somebody did that. And I guarantee you, sure as we're sitting here, that if you do the math and find who was responsible, it'll be Jews. Not to defend the Quakers or homosexuals or women or any other group of people, because they're all awful. But I guarantee if you find the party most responsible for the destruction of white men's ability to make a living, there's going to be a Jewish hand behind it.
Starting point is 03:32:52 I mean, it's at this point, it's just so obvious as, as you read through like 200 years together or as you, like, Daryl's latest episode, episode two of enemy, the Germans war. Oh, dude. Outstanding. Oh. I mean, that's one of the most brutal things I've ever listened to. And I mean, there is a. reason there's a reason why and he didn't even get into like hungry in that he didn't even get into
Starting point is 03:33:26 bella coon that's the next episode i mean there's a reason why they were like okay well we have a we have a jewish issue here right we have to deal with right and the no king's protest who's behind that jews oh yeah the two like leaders of the um what's that indivisible Yeah, they're Jews. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, like you, I mean, you just go, they put videos on YouTube. Just go look at them. Listen to them. You've heard, we've heard this all before. Yeah. We've heard this revolutionary shit all before. That's like that's why you, that's why you can't not talk about it anymore.
Starting point is 03:34:13 So because it's so obvious and it's so obvious that like Normies are. seeing it like people who people who were brought up in an environment to be like oh the Jews are god's people they're Christians and waiting you know yada yada and now people are just like holy hell old ladies in Alabama they just murder tens of thousands of people in 4k and and then they they say they did it because they're victims okay where do you want me to go with this to your point about murdering a bunch of people and then claiming their victims. Like, right, Dave brought this up on his show with Tucker. Like, if anybody else tries that, right?
Starting point is 03:35:06 If young white men go to Ben Shapiro and say, like, man, I can't find a job. I can't get a girlfriend. I can't find any hobbies. What does Ben Shapiro say? Pull yourself up by your bootstrap. Quit whining. Leave it. You're not, you're not entitled to anything.
Starting point is 03:35:27 If you, if you, if you in a town where your ancestors settled there 400 years ago, you may have to leave and go somewhere else. But, you know, don't expect handouts. That's only for Israel and the Jews. Right. Well, yeah. Well, it's like, you know, I mean, Pete, you and I have talked about this separately, but I know, like, all four of us were like given the whole like you're a special boy stuff in school as kids right
Starting point is 03:35:56 like you're smart we want to you know we want you to do stuff were you given free college or did you have to pay for it um i finished paying college last year in your 50s yeah right yeah Uh-huh. And our, right, in Israel, if you're the equivalent of, of Charles or Jose or Pete, who's like, everyone notices, wait, like, this guy's in fifth grade. And in third, fourth and fifth grade, he topped it, you know, topped out in the top 1% or top 2% of, you know, he's in 98th or 99th percentile in everything in his standardized tests. Let's get this kid, you know, like, let's get this kid moving. Let's get this kid some resources. Let's help this kid out. On this, on this story, I'll tell it now. I've never, I've never told it publicly because I wanted to respect this guy's privacy.
Starting point is 03:36:53 But I'm sure it's been so long now. It's been 40 years. I'm sure he's either dead or long since retired. So I'll say it. When I was getting out of high school, I come from, I come from a very modest lower middle class background. As we know from my history with Pete, my father was a public school teacher. We talked about that in race war in high school. So we didn't have a lot of money. I went to the state college. My grades were good. So my mom and my dad packed me up.
Starting point is 03:37:28 We went to the state college not too far from where I lived. And we went in to see the financial aid officer. I was a white guy, so that'll tell you how long ago this was. I still remember this like it was yesterday. We walked in. He was very polite. Shook my dad's hand. Shook my mom's hand. said, hello. Brought me in. Shut the door behind us. Went to his desk. And before he even sat down, he said, look, if you tell anyone I said this,
Starting point is 03:37:53 I'll deny it. But you're white, your middle class, you're getting nothing. I still remember that to this day. It has never. And it was 30 years ago or more. Closer to 40. Yeah. Right. Closer to 40. So this is why like I really just try and keep my mouth shut on Twitter when a lot of the younger generations are like, oh, you don't get it old man.
Starting point is 03:38:19 It's like, bro, this has been a problem for 60, 70, 80 years. Like you don't, this is way older than you think it is. You're just seeing the rot now. It's just noticeable. But if fish rots from the head and tail first, if you were from the coasts, you saw all the shit long ago so yeah i'll give the floor back to you d i just wanted to say because that was extremely pertinent to your point and again who was behind that it wasn't episcopalians like i don't know p you tell me am i am i barking up the wrong tree here well i mean i've i've
Starting point is 03:39:04 read enough books with the receipts to see that you know once they got control of this country that it was, you know, it's like Thomas says, we live in a social engineering regime. The regime has been for the last hundred years about social engineering, and it really kicked up after, after a World War II. And if you are going to have a social engineering regime where you are going to turn people into deracinated cogs in your machine, you're going, I mean, once your eyes are open to that, you just can't unsee it. All you have to do is go to the authoritarian personality and read the authoritarian personality and look at the five authors and look at the early life on four of them.
Starting point is 03:39:55 And then they have their Shabas koi with them. I mean, it's anyone who's denying this at this point is just is blind. I can understand not wanting to talk about it because that comes with, I mean, you know, It really pisses me off when a bunch of people online who are anonymous, who are anans, are like talking about the Jews all day, but then somebody who is like there with their legal fucking name who is like hesitant to, you know, make this the whole center of what they're talking about. And they're like, oh, well, you're a sellout.
Starting point is 03:40:34 Motherfucker, you're anonymous on the internet. why are you anonymous on the internet because you're scared right because you're not not not not without reason that you know like masad might accident no i understand i understand completely but those of us who are out here you're using our fucking legal names how about you fucking lay off well and that's why i think everyone's got to be really careful attacking people like Tucker doesn't go far enough. Orrin doesn't go far enough. Dude, Arnne works for Glenn Beck, okay?
Starting point is 03:41:11 He doesn't even work for Glenn Beck. I mean, Glenn Beck doesn't even, he sold his controlling interest in that thing. I mean, it's just, that's not Orrin's concentration. If you want to hear someone talk about the Jews on the Blaze, Jason Whitlock is on the Blaze. He's had E. Michael Jones and Kevin McDonald on his show. okay yeah how many people know that they e michael jones and kevin mcdonald have both been on the blaze
Starting point is 03:41:41 network oh i'm gonna be mad at oran because it wasn't orrin who did it well fuck yourself that's not his that's not his wheelhouse there are other people out there doing this well and and as one of the guys who was you know i mean granted i'm anonymous but you know i've been in the game a long time And a show I was on that's most famous that I did got like 4,000 listens. It was not impressive. Like your stuff gets way more reach, Pete. Thing is, we were like the Velvet Underground, like me and Thomas are the Velvet Underground of like racist right wing podcasters. We don't have that many fans, but fans we do have everyone pays attention to.
Starting point is 03:42:29 I don't care, man. Like when 60 year old grandmas are like, you know, this is really bad. Like, I'm like, great. I want to do a podcast about like historical bridges. Like who built them and out of what materials and like, you know, like if I had, if I had my brothers, I would do like a YouTube show about like cool infrastructure. And I do the whole like, here's who built it and find, you know, this. Ken Barnes style, like, do this zoom in on the guy who built it and talk about the project
Starting point is 03:43:11 and why it was cool and what was important about it and do a bunch of pictures about the Erie Canal or, you know, the Great Union Pacific Railroad or, you know, particular bridges. I mean, like, if, legit, if I had my dream job, it would be to go to cool projects and, like, explain them to people and why they were cool. That would be, like, my dream job. Go to the Hoover Dam and, like, do a full hour on the, Hoover Dam, two hours, something like that. Get into the nerdy details about how, like how cool the bridge was and how the
Starting point is 03:43:50 forces, like the structural engineering behind it and how that was cool and whatever, like that kind of stuff. That would be what I would want to do if I could do any, any, any content creation. I can't. Not because it's not possible, but because I've done this stuff. If I was to come out and just be like, hi, someone would, recognize my name. I'd be docs. I'd be fired. I'd lose the show. And they would still control my country. And so no matter what I would do in 20 years, there's not going to be, you know,
Starting point is 03:44:24 a Hoover Dam because some allow me to complete type guy is going to mess up the, you know, computer and break the damn thing. So I got to be here. If my kids are going to have a future, I got to be here. I'm going to be on thought crime syndicate. And I'm grateful that you give me the opportunity and I'm grateful for your friendship and everything. But until these people are driven from power and they can't get us into these insane wars that benefit us in absolutely zero way, there's no, like, what else is there to talk about? You know, Virginia is going to lose their gun rights because Jews didn't want the, you know, the, you know, the uppity goyam close to their center of power to have the ability to push them. back because they got scared when there was that one rally in Richmond. And they're like, oh, we could get pushback.
Starting point is 03:45:37 So we're going to arrange things in Virginia so that you lose. Never mind the history, never mind the culture, never mind the people. You know, they just get to lose. Well, this ties back into how the show started, really. And I mean, it's sort of a full circle in that we keep banging these same drums. And we'll stop. As a matter of fact, I'll speak for myself and I'll speak for UD because you just said it. I don't have to really speak for you. I'll just say that. But yeah, we'll stop. Hell, we want to stop. Absolutely. Let's talk about something else. But we can't because this is what's true now.
Starting point is 03:46:22 When something else is true, we'll be happy to talk about that. But until then, we have to talk about what's true and this is it. one thing that I've learned in the last, especially since this, I would say probably since the Iran thing last year, last June is that people are either in complete denial, the people who don't see it, who don't want to address this, or they're making excuses for it actively, or they're benefiting from it from it in some way. And I don't know how you can talk about anything else. I mean, there's, I mean, there are reports coming out that like double the amount dead and wounded have been reported or being reported. So they're basically hiding numbers.
Starting point is 03:47:21 They are, you know, you know they don't want to talk about. You know that probably the only reason they even reported on planes going down is because that that's kind of. kind of hard to hide, but also it's going to give them an excuse to escalate. And at this point, the escalation, in my opinion, is basically just to destroy the country even further. If you destroy, if you embarrass the military, our military, which, let's face it, our military is not designed to fight a war in Iran. It's designed to fight proxy wars in Vietnam. It's still fighting, you know, as Thomas says, they're still fighting the Cold War. You can't, you know, Iran is one of those places.
Starting point is 03:48:12 It's like the graveyard of empires. The only time the Persians have lost wars is when they've gone trying to expand their empire. They've gotten their ass kicked a bunch of times trying to do that. And then they learned. And they're like, yeah, we're not going to do that anymore. But it also comes down to the fact that Iran has one. Iran finances Hezbollah and the Houthis and Hamas. Whose enemies are those?
Starting point is 03:48:44 Iran has one enemy. If the United States wasn't joined at the hip, if it wasn't an occupied government, if it wasn't a Zionist Jewish occupied government, Iran has one enemy, and they would have destroyed them already. It wouldn't be a problem. The only reason Israel exists as the psychopathic nation that it is right now
Starting point is 03:49:12 is because they occupied us. And I heard somebody say today, I was listening to someone talking to them, they were talking about boots on the ground and everything. And I know people are saying boots are on the ground, aren't going to happen, but maybe not in any mass mobilization. but they'll probably try something special forces related and this person said you know and when
Starting point is 03:49:40 american troops go in there and i was just like i'm screaming because i'm like you said american troops you didn't say this col it you know the coalition the um the partnership of the united states in israel why because israeli troops don't fight don't send their They don't send their troops to fight with us. They never have. And all the terror wars, they never did. Iraq, Afghanistan. No.
Starting point is 03:50:11 They aided ISIS in Syria. ISIS bombed. ISIS had a rocket go off course and land in Israel. And they publicly, they went on TV and they went in the newspaper and they apologized. I mean, they're, ISIS is just another cutout for, for, for the, is for the Zionist occupied government here and Israel. Yeah, another thing I heard Daryl say today, which I thought was really interesting, he was recalling the Molly Ball article after the election in 2020 that said, you know,
Starting point is 03:50:54 where they, they, they admitted that they had to have this vast conspiracy to make sure that the one in time that says that they fortified the election and that they. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And what it should, you know, what they said in there basically was these protests, like these on the ground protests, the Antifa, all these things, they can turn them on and off. After the election in 2020, we didn't know who was president for for about five days. They said that they were going to protest if we didn't know, if they didn't know that night,
Starting point is 03:51:28 they didn't. They admitted that they can turn it on and on. off. Daryl made a great point. He's like, look, he goes, why you have all of these terrorist groups surrounding Israel. Why aren't they like going to checkpoints and blowing things up? Why aren't they going in? How come they're not doing terrorist attacks against Israel? He said, he said, what if Zog controls them too? And they can turn that on and off. When you think about it and you pay attention,
Starting point is 03:52:09 you're like, you know, probably fucking true. Dude, there's even one paper I saw that it got a lot of attention towards the end of 2016. It's from like the Begin Sadat Center for Strategic Studies. It's like an Israeli think tank. It's quite literally titled. It's by an Israeli professor. It's titled, The Destruction of Islamic State is a Strategic Mistake. I mean, come on now.
Starting point is 03:52:42 People just don't get this. All these so-called terror groups are just golems that are directed by the, by Usrael, the Judeo-American axis. Like, these are not organic movements whatsoever. I can't remember. I think it was
Starting point is 03:53:03 Tucker who talked about the official history of 9-11 or the of the, no, I remember if it was Darrell. Somebody smart and well put together, talked about actually no, it was my friends over the American son.
Starting point is 03:53:21 they talked about the official bin laden raid right like bin laden was down the street from the Pakistani west point like literally down the street you you really think that like the united states went in to their west point with helicopters and gunships and a bunch of navy seals and killed a bunch of folks and shot a bunch of people with no awareness whatsoever and no like Oh, hey, there's a bunch of gunfire going off right next to their military academy and nobody knew a thing. Yeah, zero dark 30 was written by the CIA. Yeah, of course it was. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 03:54:08 Anyone who saw that movie knows that that's not that's not. Right, and there's the net the Netflix that added like mini series just came out. That was the occasion for him to talk about it. And so this, right, there's no king's protest was put together by Jews. And I'll give you an example of. like a non-organic thing that shows just how it looks successful these sorts of things can be.
Starting point is 03:54:33 Charlottesville. I knew most of the guys speaking at Charlottesville, we're supposed to speak at Charlottesville at the time. Which is not a hard thing, though. I'm sure like all of you guys have interacted at one point or other with a lot of the guys that we're supposed to speak there, especially if you're active on Twitter.
Starting point is 03:54:48 It's not that hard. But like sub-5,000 white guys showed up to like protest their displacement and destruction of their culture and the entire society freaked the fuck out there were movies there was tv shows there was commercials you know the governor of virginia so there's one thing that they didn't control a couple thousand white boys get a little motion and all of a sudden it's the end of the world and everyone's getting sued and people are losing payment processors and we're getting kicked off of YouTube and you know it's it's all nonsense and and you know screw YouTube for kicking
Starting point is 03:55:39 Pete off but like contrast that with like oh here's this like violent communist or maybe not violent but like certainly communist flavored massive organization that can get tens of thousands of people out in the street and they get nothing they get to keep their YouTube channels they don't get to get docs they don't get fired why not? Why were there a bunch of feds at J6? You know, why did the one person who got killed at J6,
Starting point is 03:56:26 I mean, people died, I guess, but the one person was shot, right? Like, you get medals for shooting that lady. Like,
Starting point is 03:56:39 it just doesn't make any sense other than, like this, the intelligence services, you know, the military industrial complex, the Pentagon, whatever, they're,
Starting point is 03:56:50 they're all, the same entity, they're all the occupying force of the government, they're all putting their thumb on the scale. That's the only thing that makes any sense. It's hard to, I think one of the biggest problems that people have is, is that they just don't, once they recognize all this, they just don't know what to do. You know, I have interviewed and talked to, privately talk to people who were at Charlottesville. And the question I always ask is, why'd you think you could get away with this? Was it because Donald Trump got elected,
Starting point is 03:57:30 did that give you some confidence? And I don't know that they've ever been asked that question before, but they basically say, yeah, yeah, that's, we thought the tide was turning. Even when the tide is turning and the tide is turning now, you know, as far as, you know, more and more people just realize when we're knocking on. more occupied government the now is the time you really just have to be careful you know and
Starting point is 03:58:06 i think that people should also realize that if you have to be careful everybody has to be careful and just because somebody has a platform you know and has you know talks to thousands of people and tens of thousands of people you know that doesn't they're not insulated So, you know, just I think it's probably the most important reason I tell people to organize with other people, no matter who it's true. You don't have to do it through the Old Glory Club or anyone like that. You know, you don't have to be, you can go start your own thing. It can be completely local. It could be through your church.
Starting point is 03:58:53 Just you have to get with other people and you have to have a contingency plan for if things get worse. I mean, we started off, you started off talking about how, you know, I mean, we could get oil. If this escalates anymore, we could get oil at, you know, $200 a barrel. And, you know, we're seeing the oil is at $112 a barrel now, but that doesn't mean anything. Oil is selling, actual oil is selling for $141 a barrel. You know, so those are royal futures. It's not what, you know, what oil is actually costing in real. like today, you have to be prepared. You have to figure out what you can, you know, what you need,
Starting point is 03:59:38 what the people around you were going to need. And then if you pull your resources, you can, you can weather this because people have weathered worse before. I mean, we're not Orthodox Christians, Russians in 1917 in Russia. We're not there yet, but this isn't the worst anybody's ever had to ever had to put up with. Were you there in 73, Pete, do you remember 73? The oil crisis? I don't. Yeah, I don't remember, no.
Starting point is 04:00:15 Okay. I mean, I remember like seven, like the Carter years, like 76 through 2000 and like 79 more, more so my my dad going and you know trying to find a gas station that had gas and gas that wasn't really expensive at that time which it was probably if it got close to a dollar that was like hella expensive at that time but um yeah it's uh you're just you're gonna have to figure something out you know there's not everybody i don't think most of the people who are listening to this are wealthy people who can go out and buy, you know, endless amounts of deep freezer, you know, deep freezers and stock up and, you know, have standby generators and all sorts of
Starting point is 04:01:11 things. So you're going to have to just figure it out. You're going to have to figure it. You can't do it alone. You've got to figure it out with other people. And, you know, that is really, the future is collectivism. And you got to find the people that you, that you collectivize. with individualism is just a lie taught to you by libertarian Jews sorry it's the truth go look at go go look at the most famous the famous ones yeah Murray Rothbard uh and Rand Rand um um um the normal and free no real and freedom ludic on these is um although although i have a soft spot in my heart for for for for Mises and for Rothbard because Rothbard was really good on a lot of things but you know there were there
Starting point is 04:02:02 was also stuff that uh yeah hopper does the same thing I think hop is probably the you know the libertarian I would person who calls himself a libertarian that I would agree with the most but you know he still promotes free markets and stuff like that so yeah well I prefer Murray unreleased the police on the rioters in 1992 Rothbard versus the man owning himself Murray Rothbard, but... And I prefer the Mises, who worked for the fascist government of Dolfus in Austria.
Starting point is 04:02:35 Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I don't know, I'm just a guy bloviating on the internet. So, you know, take that and that in five bucks, good a cup of coffee, I guess. But again, like,
Starting point is 04:02:50 not me, not Charles, not Jose, it's certainly not Pete. We're not trying to bullshit you. So, you know, like, I'll close with the same thing I'd say every time. Support the people don't lie to you. You know, buy Charles's book. Like subscribe to Jose Subsdack.
Starting point is 04:03:06 Subscribe to Pete, you know, because we're the only, like, yeah, Pete and I did the joke, April Fool's thing for hockey. But, you know, we're the only people who are going to tell you like, okay, this is the way $8 gas is going to affect your life. You're going to have to think about things like, is your sheriff's department? If you live rural, like, is your sheriff's department? Sheriff's where I'm going to be able to even come get you if gas is $7 a gallon or $8 a gallon. You know, they might only be able to be your neck of the woods like once a week.
Starting point is 04:03:43 Is the school bus going to show up? Things like that. And the only reason, you know, we can see farthest because we don't, we don't lie to people about stuff. You know, women aren't men. Race is real. Jews are not white people. That might all seem like simple stuff to you. and it is, but 90% of everybody else out there,
Starting point is 04:04:10 they've been told the opposite for years, and they still kind of believe it, a lot of them. Yeah, yeah, I think we should probably start getting out of here. I know Charles has a hard app and everything. So Charles, go ahead, do promotion, promote anything you want. Okay, thank you. First off, as always, thank you so much for having me. I really do appreciate it.
Starting point is 04:04:36 It's always good to talk with you, fellas. Second off, I'm hoping to start, once I get my life a little bit more in order after my recent debacle with immigration for the second time, I'm going to try and start being a little more prolific. I think working on a second book, I don't want to talk to, or a third book, rather. I don't want to talk too much about it just yet, but it is slowly coming together. As far as one last thing I really do want to say, I want to thank everybody in your audience, Pete, that's reached out to me after I said, please feel free to reach out. I got a few very kind, very loving messages, and it was a tremendous help. So to those of you that reached out, I say a very sincere and a very warm thank you. It was a ray of
Starting point is 04:05:17 sunshine in an otherwise dark past couple months. So thank you all for your kind words. I do appreciate it. Everybody stay well, and I will pass the floor to the next gentleman. God bless. Well, say. Thank you again for having me on, Pete. And it was a pleasure talking with Charles NDE as always. And yeah, people can follow me on on X slash Twitter at Jose Al Nino and also my substack, Jose Nino unfiltered. If you want what to join my live stream where you have like the power to ask me questions about like the latest like developments on politics,
Starting point is 04:05:52 become a paid, you can become a paid subscriber to my substack at Josealinio.org. And I'm also writing at the Occidental Observer and the Libertarian Institute for, with regards to a lot of foreign policy and other stuff dealing with Zionism and organized jury. Anything else, D.E? Fundamental principles kind of been on Hades, as we deal with some behind the scene stuff, but it's coming back.
Starting point is 04:06:17 And, you know, if that's your interest in Catholicist intersection of our politics and religion, then that's where I'm at. And once again, Pete, just thanks for having me on. It's always a pleasure to be here. And I really appreciate you extending an invitation. It feels like we just talked a couple days ago. Yeah, maybe. All right.
Starting point is 04:06:39 Thank you. Good night, gentlemen.

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