The Pete Quiñones Show - The 'Thought Crime Syndicate' - The Signal We Should All Be Recognizing

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

85 MinutesPG-13The Thought Crime Syndicate sits down to discuss what the most important information gleaned from the Trump assassination attempt should be. Featuring Pete, Charles Spadille, Jose Niño..., and Dark Enlightenment.DE's Telegram ChannelJose's SubstackSubscribe to Jose's Newsletter10 Myths of Gun ControlJose's Mises.org PagePete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'VIP Summit 3-Truth To Freedom - Autonomy w/ Richard GroveSupport Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 even more than it already has. Thank you so much. So why do you're So why do you want to start with that Arriva So why do you want to start with that, DE? Well, for I guess you've been reading the Last Crusade by Warren Carroll,
Starting point is 00:04:24 which I strongly encourage everyone to listen to. But Charles and I have been saying to get it privately to each other for years that we're in January 1936 in Spain. And you get two choices. And I strongly believe that that's where we're at. We've been saying that since prior to the written house incident. I know we've been saying that prior to that. Because I remember the written house incident.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And it was one of the things that crystallized it for us. We had made that statement in a conversation. I still remember it. I was standing in my kitchen, and I'm not sure where you were, but I know we were on the phone together. And I said, we both said, like, this is it. Spain, 1936, you get the fascist, you get the communists. Anybody else just gets run over in the conflict between the two.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And then I want to say it was days. It may be a week, but I think it was honestly days before the written house shooting. that and then when that happened it's like yep see this is exactly what it is exactly what it is and if you're not ready to load a rifle I'm not really ready to listen to you I remember that was something we both passed back and forth between one another and yep in 2020 we were we were both talking about that and this is just what what these what systems go through right like we had this period of stability imposed from the top down by American and Soviet hegemony and and
Starting point is 00:05:47 that's ending And things are unstable. And things are unstable all over the place. I guess Malaysia isn't some sort of conflict of Israeli just bombed Damascus. There's, you know, the President of Moran just died and there's been a new re-election. And, you know, like there's stuff all over the place popping off. Because the people in charge of this country are the worst sort of people. They are subservient and negligent, subservient to certain powers abroad, belligerent,
Starting point is 00:06:19 abroad and neglectful at home, negligent at home. It's literally the worst combination you could possibly have. Yeah, excellently stated. And I would, this is not a pedanticism, but a yes. And I would say that it's not just this country is in the United States of America. I think we're seeing the cracks and the corruption show all over, all over Europe everywhere. We're seeing that people that know how to manipulate a bureaucratic system have placed themselves into power. or have been placed there by others that know how to use a bureaucratic system. We have long since past the days of meritocracy. Now, I'm not some rosy-eyed youngster that thinks the past was perfect
Starting point is 00:07:04 and that we've always had wonderful meritocracies. I mean, for crying out loud, every man in this room knows that we haven't. But we have had closer to meritocracies than we have had, than we currently have. I mean, this is the furthest thing from a meritocracy I've ever seen in my 51 years, and I would reckon anybody younger than me and even many older than me would agree that we are just so far beyond any sense of merit, that it's just unfathomable to think it even existed. That's a big yes end to what you were saying.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yes, I think we do have incompetent and corrupt and nepotistic individuals running things, But as you said, they're just, they're so far beyond the pale as to make the past unrecognizable. Well, I think one of the things, I think we talked about it last night, D. when we were talking to Thomas is, or no, this is when I was talking to Carl Dahl when we were doing a reading, the seventh reading for Last Crusade. And he was talking about how, you know, the reconquista that took, you know, almost 800 years was, you know, one generation may only take back three feet. The next generation may take back a mile. You know, maybe it might take a few generations to, you know, get a whole town back or even, you know, a county. But it has to start somewhere. And, you know, you were talking about, you know, loading a rifle. To me, I don't think that that's something that is, that's not something national. That is, if we are going to have a reconquista, it starts where you are. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You know, it is, we're, you know, we're going to say this is our town. This is what we believe. This is who we are. And, you know, if you don't like it, you can leave. and we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we do not need the federal government, maybe even your state government, depending on where you are, and we're going to take care of ourselves. And, you know, it could start on a block, and then it could go to your neighborhood, and then it could be, you know, then it could be the city.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But that is the kind of thing. If you're going to have a march through the, if it took 100 years for them to march through the institutions, well, the march starts now. well and and this is the post-war consensus I put it on my telegram like whatever else you might want to say right the last month or so
Starting point is 00:09:52 with the elections in France and Britain this incident others the the post-war consensus is over and effectively that the whole point of the Nuremberg regime and you know Thomas have talked about it I'm sorry for last night it was a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:08 disjointed but events being what they were there was no way we're going to make something coherent out of that. But the whole point of the Nuremberg regime is that it is that it is illegal and immoral for white people to assert themselves politically, especially right-wing white people. White people can only assert themselves politically on behalf of something else, whether it's the environment or non-whites or, you know, whatever, something else. They can never speak in their own interest, and especially right-wing white people. cannot speak in their own interest. They can be a sidekick, but not the protagonist is what basically. Yeah. They can be a sidekick, but not a protagonist.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. They can pay the taxes. They can, they can be the ones who make everything run, but they can't assert that. And before we get too much further, I think we need to say something about the gentleman who died, um, who the second shots rang out through his wife and daughter down and jumped in front of a bullet for them. And that, man was a hero. And his name was Corey comparatory. Something very salient. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And he was a retired, 50-year-old retired fire chief. There's been tributes from his daughter. Honestly, I teared up, you know, he was a great dad, apparently. And I know that there are people who I respect you have real problems with Donald Trump and don't want to vote for him again, and rightfully so, there's lots of things wrong with him. But Cory Kompinatorre deserved people who care about him in Washington. He deserved people who care about his family in Washington. He deserved a government that doesn't put him in danger and put his family in danger
Starting point is 00:12:01 and cares about whether his kids or his grandkids have schools and running water. and um and and and god damn you establishment for costing this good man his life on so that some genetic abomination communist piece of shit could get within 200 yards of a president and start killing people you know Jose put it best on Twitter like these these media communists who they need to be crushed
Starting point is 00:12:36 orans had some great stuff to say but but these people, they're scum of the earth. You think you hate them enough, but you don't. They all need to be crushed. Yeah. So one thing, one of my immediate takeaways from this incident, in addition to the death of comparatory was like that scene of people in the crowd instinctively calling out the media for effectively inciting this whole incident.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Because I've long said this and I agree with DE. I'm not the biggest Trump fan or whatever, but I do believe his supporter base has very strong biological and political instincts when it comes to determining the friend-enemy distinction. I believe that the Trump movement is much more politically switched on than Trump and his inner cabal itself. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design.
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Starting point is 00:15:05 the system is collapsing as we know it. And I think like I have said on Twitter, people have been put in a political trance by the liberal international order, thinking that things are a-okay. But now that this order has basically turned the U.S., the Judeo-American Empire into this Shadiqua state, where it's become so incompetent across the board from the governing functions to the way like their water supply is being administered. People are going to take extra political measures to handle, to like carry out political disputes.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Because when, like, when DC is relying on like executive orders and regulatory edicts to carry out public policy, there's going to be a backlash. And people will take to the streets and use assassination attempts and all this other forms of violence to impose their will. And I think people need to be ready for this because, as I've said before, like politics is an expression of like violence and it's ultimately going back to its primordial form as we were witnessing a systemic collapse on all levels of governance, whether it's ultimately going back to its primordial form as we were witnessing a systemic collapse on all levels of governance, whether it's. the U.S. or on the international stage, like history is continuing. It's not over. Right. History doesn't end. And I want to kind of jump on a few things you said, Jose, because I think we're very much simpatico today. I want to say it was back in 2013, 2014. I have a post on one of my two blogs. One blog is just personal stuff that I've written since 2004.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But the other one I've written as part of the Manosphere since 2012. We've talked about this previously. And that's called 80 proof ointamancy. And back in 2013, I wrote a post that ended up, somebody else did a breakdown of my post because I use a lot of negative space when I write. I let the reader draw a lot of their own conclusions. But what I talk about is you have to understand the United States is a nation that has already collapsed.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And the best way to think of it is it's a series of dominoes that have all fallen. In health care, they call it a cascade effect. And I wrote about this in my book, called the holistic guide to suicide. But the United States is a nation that has already collapsed. It's already done. You may not see it personally if you live in a nice area,
Starting point is 00:17:44 if you live in a clean area, if you live in a clean area, if you live in a safe area. But it has already collapsed on the whole because the dominoes to the left of the one of your left and to the right of the one of your right have already fallen. You just can't see it because the domino, your left and right respectively have not yet fallen. But there is a long string of them that have already collapsed. Church, county, state, federal, all of them have already collapsed. They're already
Starting point is 00:18:16 done. You're only noticing it now because the effects of that collapse have knocked into dominoes closer to you. And eventually the ones to your left and right will fall and crush you. And that's what we're witnessing now. And this is why I want to step back to a point that I said earlier. If you're not willing to load a rifle, I'm not interested in what you have to say. Because I understand, I write with negative space and I can understand a lot of people when they read me or when they listen to me speak, it may be hard for them to grasp, but I'm not saying that people aren't smart enough to grasp, but that's not at all what I'm saying. But what I am saying is I try and speak very clearly, but very briefly.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Brevity is the soul of wit and I try and let people draw their own conclusions. So when I say, I don't want to talk to you unless you're ready to load a rifle, I'm not saying you best be ready to kill somebody, although frankly I think you should be prepared to do that to defend yourself, your home and your loved ones, but you have to be willing to fight and you have to be willing to take a bullet. And this steps back again to the issue at hand regarding Trump. Understand, I don't think anybody in this room is actually a tremendous this Trump fan. I think we could all sit here and break him down into little pieces. And I don't want to
Starting point is 00:19:35 set our generous host off because he had already talked this afternoon about now is not the time to counter signal. And I'm not countersignaling. I'm not. I support him, support Trump more than ever now. However, I would say that the reason they're going after him and the reason we should support him and the reason we should not counter signal is because like the beam says they're not going after him they're going after us he's just in the way he's just in the way really they're going after him because for all his foibles for all his bloviating for all of his nonsense he is normal he has a wife he has kids he has a job he does things don't normal people do That's why so many can gravitate around him.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And being a northeastern or myself, Pete, I believe you're a northeasterner as well. Like, I get the bombastic nature. I get what he does. And it kind of rolls off my back, but it rubs people to roll away. But regardless of his nature, at the end of the day, he is still something people have not seen in 50 to perhaps 100 years. And that is a genuine politician. Like him or not, love him or not, hate him or not. hate him or not, he is a genuine politician.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And I wrote something in a telegram chat, D is a part of. And I'm not sure if I repeated it on Twitter, I believe I did. But somebody had asked, how are Trump's optics so amazing? And I responded thusly, because he surrounds himself, he being Trump, because he surrounds himself with patriotic imagery, sans affectation. So what we end up seeing is life actually happening rather than curated, crowd-tested Pablam crafted by midwits.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Or in the event that it is crafted now and then, it is crafted by the closest thing we have to a meritocracy and campaigning. That, I think, is the key to Trump's success. I don't find him personally charismatic. I think he rambles. I don't think he gets to the point, but what I will respect him for is his genuineness. What you see is what you get. What is in the Trump tin is on the Trump tin.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And I think there is a great deal to be said for that, because you can rally around the truth far more easily than you can rally around the falsehood. The only reason the left has survived and prospered as well as it has is because, because it can collectivize, not because it has the truth on its side. They're used to doing that. They've been taught to do that. And, you know, the, it was something that I saw someone's, I forget who said this, but, you know, they collectivize in such a way that it allows them to put the most radical people in the most important positions. So, like, You know, if Trump gets into office, he's not putting, he's not going to put one of us in, like, say, you know, the Department of Education.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But the left or, you know, the regime, they'll put someone who's been an open communist. And they don't care. And it's like, and you pointed out to them and they don't care. I'm sorry, Pete, I don't mean cut you off, but I want to jump on something because I think you've really touched on something very important. And that is there is a brilliance to putting your most radical people in and getting them there successfully. And the brilliance is if you can get your most radical, most vociferous, craziest allies into the positions of power, it's going to be 10 times easier to get the people on your side that are closer to center. Whereas the right does it the backwards way.
Starting point is 00:23:48 They try and get their centrists in and slowly boil the frog. And that doesn't work. That doesn't work. You get the radicals in and then your radicals will clean house for you, opening the door for anybody else. I think that is the key to the leftist collective success. I'm agreeing with you that that's absolutely what they do, but I think that is the brilliance behind that tactic.
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Starting point is 00:26:03 when it comes to infrastructure, probably knows 10 times more than anyone in the regime right now. And, you know, he's stuck out here because, you know, he's a radical. And, you know, but if the but the regime will put in somebody who read one book on infrastructure and yet they're
Starting point is 00:26:29 there are a raving Marxist and yeah but we try to we try to do it we try to they try to put one of our people in there and immediately you know what happens yeah the difference between us and them is that you know Sam Brinton the insane dude
Starting point is 00:26:44 who like to steal women's luggage and I was going to clean that up. Good. Yeah, like he might have been a genuine expert, but he's insane. It took him committing like multiple felonies for him to get like fired. Right. And no leftist was like, well, I mean, he's crazy, but no, they're like, oh, he's an embarrassing criminal prison. So we're going to have to just quietly let him, you know, go away.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Whereas if like I applied for a job of the Trump administration, right, like, I'd be doxed. and then they scream around like and here's the worst part of it like i'm going to soft disagree with you p but it's going to be a very soft disagreement in the sense of i agree with you that they would never let a guy like d into the system i agree with that but i think i think it's again this is not a pedanticism it's yes and i think the right wouldn't let d in because he's a radical the left wouldn't let D in because he's normal. He's a normal guy. He's got a wife.
Starting point is 00:27:51 He's got kids. He has a job. He has friends. He has hobbies. And I think that's why the left wouldn't let him in. I agree that the right wouldn't let him in for political reasons. But I think the left just because he's normal. What do you think about that, D?
Starting point is 00:28:07 I think you're both correct to a certain extent because look at the guy you shot Trump. I mean, just a just a dysgenic free show. And, you know, I've had friends harassed. I've had friends thrown in jail. I've had people I've corresponded with, you know, like thrown in prison for private speech in the UK or other places. And I got to worry constantly about, you know, private intelligence agencies like trying to find out where I live and kill me. And that's not that's not to like brag or be hyperbolic or anything. Like look at look at what they're doing to people.
Starting point is 00:28:41 you know and because I've always known what time it is because I've been saying for years that it's 1936 in Spain the Nuremberg regime saw what happened in Spain and forgive me Pete I can't remember was it the Riquete so it were the carlest men's clubs that basically formed the Nukk. Okay so the Rikete is right if a year old enough remember the 90s you know the American militia movement was a bunch of constitutional patients
Starting point is 00:29:11 to like the Cold War is over, why don't we go back to a being a republic down at empire again like Patrick Cannon said. And the empire said, no, we like being an empire. And they said, okay, well, then we're going to train to defend ourselves because we don't trust you. And what did they do? They destroyed it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Right? Mm-hmm. We don't even have the Rickettis like they did in 1936. Now, maybe we have chat groups and there's other things going on. But the Nuremberg regime, whether it's just because I'm normal or because I'm a well-known, you know, open, white nationalist, open, you know, openly don't, you know, call me a fascist. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And, you know, like, or just because I'm a normal dude who knows what I'm talking about, it doesn't really matter. What they're upset about is that I would, or any of us would be in a position to advocate for normal people and tell the truth. And that's what's not acceptable. Right. Because the Nuremberg regime exists to prevent our listeners. our fans, our readers, normal people from advocating for their own interests in the political sphere. I'll back up your point about the militias
Starting point is 00:30:23 because I personally know about that in the sense of I was in federal law enforcement in 1998. So I remember getting the memos and the alerts and stuff. And by and large, they were all about the, as you say, the militias. And I'm just thinking to myself, really? A bunch of guy, white dudes. in Montana. And I wasn't even anywhere near as right wing as I am now. But even then, I thought it was kind of silly. Like, you're worried about 12 guys in Montana. You're worried about 30 guys in the middle of, you know, Arkansas or whatever, really? These guys aren't even leaving their compound. They're
Starting point is 00:30:57 not even training with any kind of explosives. They're just marching up and down 12 acres or whatever. And really, this is our, this is what we're worried about. And then, you know, a few years later, the planes hit the towers. And I'm just thinking, yeah, boy, good things. we were watching all those white guys in the middle of Mississippi. Boy, that sure stopped something, didn't it? You got anything, Jose? I think one thing to note is that this obviously goes beyond Trump because the most, like, venomous rhetoric and, like, incitements to violence by the
Starting point is 00:31:40 corporate media is actually going um towards his supporters um i've noticed this especially among these jewish pundits they're much more scared of trump supporters more so than trump itself because um just looking at his first administration he proved to be somewhat controllable but um if you look at like some of these incidents in the last year or so of like that fbi i just like gunning down trump supporters like that one guy like in utah and then the culmination of this um and actually i even go back to 2020 in that um trump's war getting gunned down in oregon um it's not an exaggeration to say that any type of individual that's like a trump supporter or like rightly coded individual that is like on a public platform a public square or whatever
Starting point is 00:32:43 they're very much fair game and especially it's it's like a gang type of thing like you have like a gang sign um then you're you're very much liable to being targeted and this is it this is just like politics reverting to its natural state there's no time for debate any longer um it's gonna get even like nastier and um debates are for people who share based premises like yeah exactly very well put very well yeah like there's the type one disagreements and type two disagreements and i can't remember which one's which but we're we're dealing with people who literally think that a dude in a dress should be able to throw on a like a forgive me charles and a doc's just a little bit like you're a big hairy dude like you know and if you want to call yourself
Starting point is 00:33:36 charlene you get a thrown a sundress And then go change in the same blocker room as my kid, is my daughter. No, that's not happening. Yeah, right. Nope, fair point. You're not wrong. You're not.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And, and, and, and the people who, right, you know, oh, like, you know, why did you miss? And it's like, no, we're not, we're not living with people who, um, can be reasoned with. Like, you can't reason. These, these people weren't reasoned into this, you know, Thomas, well, last night, Thomas and. Pete and I were supposed to talk about the Audubon and then this happened. So we didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:12 But one of the things that Thomas talked about that I think is really important is the infotainment complex, right? Right. I thought about this quite a bit yesterday. How much trouble could be avoided if just one true thing, one hate fact, not all of the hate facts, not the truth about Jews, not the truth about blacks, not the, just, just pick any one major hate fact out there in the world. Like the truth about IQ, for instance. Yeah. How much trouble in our society would instantly evaporate? Right.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Well, right. Exactly. What did I say in our in our little group chat that sets these meetings up? What did I say? What was the, I was a little proud of my little pithy phrase. Racism is its own reward. You know? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I have, you know, I don't get mugged. I don't get cheated, you know, because I stay out of the wrong neighborhoods. I don't do business with certain people, you know. Now, has that made my life? life perfect? No, but growing up in bad neighborhoods and around certain people and stuff like that, I can tell you it saved me more heartache that I could ever possibly quantify, ever possibly quantify. So that this is me saying yes and you're absolutely correct. Just one true fact. Pick anyone you want. IQ, a pension for violence, low time preference, high time preference,
Starting point is 00:35:34 whatever you want. You pick anything you want. And we can, we can. start turning problems away overnight. But this goes back to the thing we were discussing a while back, which is the whole, we could turn this whole country around, or at least 80% of it. What did we say in two years? I think we said two to five years, something like that. Oh, yeah, one presidential term. Yeah, right. We could turn 80% of it around. All we have to do is start taking the truth. You've said this before, and I've held on to it, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. You said the three greatest things that America contributed. On the many days of Christmas the Guinness Storehouse brings to
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Starting point is 00:37:08 tabletop role playing games, an Alcoholics Anonymous. And I think that is absolutely 100% correct. Because Alcoholics Anonymous gives one of the greatest things ever. First, you have to admit there's a problem. And it seems so simple.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It seems so childlike that it's like, oh, that's ridiculous. So that's ludicrous. Everybody knows that. It's like, do you though? Do you? Because how much of life really is just...
Starting point is 00:37:34 Right. How much of... of, you know, like the FBI is listening to this show. Right. Guaranteed. Right. The FBI has been listening to everything I've ever done for five years. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Longer than that. Like I've been doing this since 2014 or so. So somewhere in the Bells, the NSA is like a file with every word I've ever said a no microphone on it. Yep. And a server in Utah with every word of it recorded too. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And instead of being like, wow. You know, this guy that just wants like things to function again, we're going to pay real close attention to him, but these violent communists that look like extras from a carney, you know. Yeah, yeah. Like, like rejected from like the ugliest man in the world tent. This, this, we're not going to pay attention to those people. Like, who does the violence, right? The Ricketts didn't do anything until they were like, oh, hey, they burned down a bunch of churches
Starting point is 00:38:34 and killed a nun. I guess it's time to saddle up. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, listen again to, I think it's episode two or three where Pete goes into July of 1936 where everything hop kicks off. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pete, please. But like, listen to that, not once, not twice. Listen to that two and three times.
Starting point is 00:38:59 My, my personal copy of, of Last Crusades, dog-eared is shit from this particular, like, I've read it over and over and over again. July is, July is about 55 pages long. Yeah. And it's, it's episode, I think it's episode three and four of my reading.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah. Right. Read that more than once because this, like, the right wing did not swing into action until it was 100% clear that there was no getting along with these people. There was no reason with them. There was no,
Starting point is 00:39:35 motives for Vendi you could come to. Well, right. This is why I, right, and this is why I hope that this bullet is a big lesson for Trump and not just another reason for him to self aggrandize and be like, see, I'm bulletproof. It went right by me. You can't take out the king. It's like, no, no, no, don't use this as an opportunity for hubris. Use this as a, these people are fucking serious. Like, this is not just civil this is not just a civil disagreement anymore this is not just mean tweets they are going to kill you now maybe you're a 78 000 maybe you now maybe you're a 78 79 year old billionaire with an absolutely gorgeous wife beautiful children a yacht and all that maybe you're ready to die
Starting point is 00:40:30 maybe you're like i've done plenty with my life i've done everything i've ever set out to do i'm a okay with dying. And you know what? That's fine. But it's not about you anymore. You are the, you are the head of a movement. You are the head. You are the figure piece of an entire zeitgeist, if you will. Right. Yeah. It's like it's not about you, bro. You cannot get killed. You cannot. And I don't mean cannot as in it's impossible. Let me be very, very clear. I'm trying to say, take this gift from God, because anybody with any sense in their head knows, it was sheer will of God that he survived. And I'm not going to presume to know why God saved him,
Starting point is 00:41:15 whether he's, whether for good or for ill, that's, I am not God, I can't answer for him. But he was saved by God, just like Rittenhouse was. And I will die on this fucking hill. I will die on this fucking hill. But I hope he takes it seriously, because I'm going to tell you, gentlemen, and if we get into it a little later,
Starting point is 00:41:33 I will go into more detail. But every man listening to the sound of my voice best have his garden of gestemite moment. Now, tonight, tomorrow night, this week. But you best have your garden of gestemany moment. You have to know fate is coming for you. And you have to get ready that it may be extremely, extremely unpleasant. But you also have to know Deus Vault. This is not about you, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:03 it's about your... It's not about Trump. Right, right. If our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, had to go to the cross, then you do too. Then you do too. I'm not saying sacrifice yourself needlessly.
Starting point is 00:42:18 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, have your garden of gestemite moment, know that this may be coming for you. Be spiritually ready for it. The one good part, the one good scene, in Indiana Jones in the last crusade is when Indy is beating the crap out of these guys that were chasing him on boats and he's got him and I still remember the scene sends chills down my spine
Starting point is 00:42:44 and he's punching this dude in the face and this giant this giant propeller is just turning and turn and chopping up the boat that they're in and it's this big like tanker or something and his little small wooden boats getting chopped up and they're getting closer and closer to the blade and he just pulls his hand back to punch this guy in the face one more time and the guy just looks up at him bleeding and he says my soul is prepared dr jones how is yours and then jones jumps off the boat with him and that's that's what you have to understand be ready because i promise you i promise you it is coming and and these people don't even i put it on telegram these people hate you if you're listening to this they really hate you
Starting point is 00:43:35 Really, really, I guarantee you they have files on all four of us. And anybody that's appeared on Pete's show in the last two years, there's somebody with a file on them. Guarantee. Yep. And much to my regret, I do not have children, but I would be willing to hazard a guess. And that is if you turn your head right now, if you are a parent and you look at your child and you think about how much they mean to you and how much you love them,
Starting point is 00:44:06 invert that. That's how much these people hate you. Yes. And they hate you. They hate Trump not because he's secretly reading Mind Conf and has read the entirety of the doctrine of fascism and has pictures of Jose Antonio and, you know, autoscarzani and stuff in his bedroom or something.
Starting point is 00:44:29 No. They hate Trump because. because they think he's that. They, they, they, there are people who are cheering the death of that man right now because he was a Trump supporter and a Nazi. Like, no, they, they said the same thing about Rush Limbaugh. Yeah. I'm, I'll say the same, they'll say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Um, you know, there are people who celebrated the death of John McCain because I thought he was a Nazi. You know, like, I'm just going to say with mystery groves attitude. I'm just going to go with, I'm going to keep writing mystery. Groves attitude. All the ideology is just window dressing. They hate Trump because he sleeps next to a beautiful woman and wakes up and has breakfast with kids that love him. That's why they hate him. And they hate him because people like him. They hate him because he has friends. Now, there's plenty of guys in this room that don't like him for other reasons, that he's a bloviator, that he doesn't keep his
Starting point is 00:45:27 word, he doesn't do this. He's not, he's not faithful to his wife, you know, whatever. Okay. And those are all valid. But the reason these people hate him is because he's successful and he wants all boats to rise with the tide. There are many things I can say bad about him, but everyone who knows him to a man will say he is one of those guys that wants to raise all boats with the tide. And I think that's obvious. I don't think it's an act. I think it's genuine. I think he does. And that's why they hate him. And that's why they hate everybody else because there's just something wrong and deeply broken in these people inside them, that they can't get over whatever trauma they suffered, whatever, whatever pettiness or vileness or vileness they have. And it's just like they just have
Starting point is 00:46:17 to destroy something beautiful. And that's why you can't tolerate it. That's why you can't tolerate it. That's why tolerance is not a Christian virtue, charity, mercy, all that. those, yeah, they're Christian virtues. Tolerance is not. Tolerance is absolutely not. Right. It can't be. It can't be.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Because that's why, because once you let it get a foothold, it doesn't stop. Go ahead, finish up D.E. Because I'm going to move the subject along. I'm going to change the subject. Okay, well, I was just going to say that tolerance is what led to, you know, the totally incompetent secret service that made is possible in the first place. Mm-hmm. Regardless of where you think the incompetence lies, it was tolerance.
Starting point is 00:46:59 that led to the institution getting captured by leftists or tolerance that led, you know, fat women be on the presidential detail or whatever. I have a lot to say about that, actually, but we'll, you know, we'll move on. Well, yeah, let's, let me give, Jose, do you have anything to finish on that subject? Anything to close with on that subject? Yeah, I would just add on that, like, Trump on whatever his political, failings with our many. He is like an avatar of a normal European white European America that is increasingly becoming an afterthought and the very fact that somebody like him could actually get elected freaks people out and
Starting point is 00:47:48 especially if these people are really get really freaked out when there are other people that kind of look like him and hold the same values start mobilizing collectively and try to express some form of political will and that's what really gets these people going and to the point where these freaks will use um straight up political violence to impose their will on us and um best believe there's going to be plenty of copycats like now after this incident because they're going to think oh i like if this person got so close i could do it there's going to be a lot of one-uping or they'll set up for the consolation prices of killing Trump supporters too because there's plenty of jurisdictions
Starting point is 00:48:33 in the U.S. where they could actually get away with it to literally get away with murder. So. Yep. Yeah. Co-sign 100%. One of the reasons, one of the reason my throat is so sore right now is I was doing a live stream for about an hour and a half before this. I called it.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I was sort of yelling at the top of my lungs. Sort of. Yeah, I was kind of angry. No, no. I'm not saying you never write. I'm just trying to be little levity, that's all. Yeah. But, you know, one thing that I noticed as soon as this happened,
Starting point is 00:49:10 I noticed that this was like a once-in-a-generation opportunity. Right. Like, this is something that changes the narrative. It's something that you can take and you can start pushing your own narrative. And something I immediately. saw was that people started jumping into people on our
Starting point is 00:49:32 side. I will say you're going to see it from quote unquote content creators on our side, quote unquote, who wanted to this is, dude, how do you get up there? Did someone put a ladder for him there?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Did you see the one guy who like stood down and he didn't shoot until he took the first shot? Is that guy is that guy a Jew? Did you see his bracelet? I think he was a Jew, and I think that's why he didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? I have a perfect analogy, Pete. Go ahead. So the establishment conservatives are retarded, and they'll talk about the right shake fire
Starting point is 00:50:19 as if, like, Hitler said it. And of course, actually, the communists did it, right? And they were right to, oh, he's going to use this as his rickick fire mode. This is exactly analogous. You know, the people who are too dumb to know what the hell is going on. Like, no, communists must be crushed. The entire Antifa network needs to be recode. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Absolutely. They need to have all their associations planned out. They need to be charged under the various felonies they commit every day, including drug use and massive numbers, drug trafficking, human trafficking. you know, violence, terrorism, like, you name it. They need to be charged with it and thrown in prison. Any of their attorneys that are probably also committing felonies, a lot of them, they need to be disbarred, bankrupted, and then thrown in prison.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And any of their media people, any of their collaborators in media or academia, they need to lose their jobs and be bankrupted and thrown in prison because they're committing crimes and trying to destroy society. Right. Yeah. Right. Agreed. So, you know, so my whole point was, is, I put it in one of my private chats, I said,
Starting point is 00:51:34 you know, understand that the people who want to expose this as a conspiracy or woefully ignorant of how to use this strategically. This is a game changer that they wish to, that all, all they're doing is diffusing it by by trying to, oh, well, where did the bullet come from? And, you know, and, you know, one of my friends said, you said, the narrative, the only narrative is the left and the media have blood on their hands after years of advocating for political violence. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:03 They were inches away from, they were inches away from blowing Trump's head off on live TV and would have celebrated in the streets if they did. They want you dead. Right. And that's, that's it. You know, they tried to kill Trump. They took out a chud, and they're celebrating that now. They may not be celebrating it publicly, but they're celebrating it privately.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I don't care. I don't care where the, you know, where the bullet came from. I don't care, you know, as far as I'm concerned, the secret service. A good man and a good American who threw himself, himself between his wife and his daughter in front of bullets, got killed. Literally. Yeah, like literally. This is a communist piece of garbage. Literally threw himself in front of bullets.
Starting point is 00:52:48 If you think that it's funny or whatever. or you are ironic distance or Trump supporters are cringe fuck you that man you deserve you deserve you deserve that man deserved
Starting point is 00:53:01 fuck that guy yeah you need to radically if you're on supposedly on my side of the fence and you're not pissed as hell that this good man was killed by a communist piece of shit
Starting point is 00:53:14 you're completely wrong yeah completely wrong and something Pete said in the in the broadcast this afternoon that the solo broadcast that you did this afternoon Pete and you're a hundred percent right when somebody brought up a statue to this fellow competuri who said oh put up well that might be seen as you guys as taking advantage of the moment and and making use of a tragedy it's like well and
Starting point is 00:53:40 and so who gives a shit like this that's just a george floyd we put ridiculous we put ridiculous are George Floyd right there's right like who the fuck are you to tell me this is We have simple. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. What do you interpret my political motivations to be? This guy literally threw himself. This isn't a metaphor.
Starting point is 00:54:02 He literally threw himself in front of bullets to shield his wife and child. Give the guy a fucking statue. I don't like, I mean, how are you going to look me in the face and look at like half of the statues that we get? Half of the public, air quotes, art we get.
Starting point is 00:54:18 You're going to look me in the face and say, now all of a sudden I need to worry about what we're putting up. Like that's just ludicrous. Get the fuck out of here. Don't piss on my shoe and tell me that's weird. Because it's a classic con-eat take. Yeah, don't politicize the situation
Starting point is 00:54:34 of all. Like, who says I'm politicizing it? I literally shielded his wife and daughter. Who said I'm politicizing it. It was terrorism that killed him. Terrorism. But I'm, yes. Yes. Yes. I agree. But what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:54:48 why do I, why does that he why do I need to even mention that? Like to me, it's like if I want to put a statue up for the guy, great, I'm going to fucking do it. I don't care what your opinion is. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:59 we need more symbolism. We need heroes. Yeah. Like, like, I'm going to step back to what you said, Pete, we have to take things two feet at a time,
Starting point is 00:55:08 three feet at a time. Well, I want the eight feet that that guy's statue's going to stand on. That's the eight feet I'm going to choose. Because he's normal and he's here. And not only is he normal, He's super normal. He's heroic. So I want to laud that. I want to lord that. I'm not worried about the
Starting point is 00:55:27 ideology. I'm worried about the culture. I want to celebrate a culture that rewards men for protecting their children, for protecting their wife. Like that's what I want to do. Yes, you're absolutely right. He was killed by a communist freak. Yes, it was awful. Like, this is not a disagreement. But what I'm saying is I'm going back to Pete's point with, I'm just going to take my three feet. my five feet, my eight feet at the time. This is what I want to celebrate. This is what I want to build. I want people walking through my fucking park pointing at that statue.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I want mom to look at the dad or dad to look at the kid or mom to look at the kid and go, do you know who that is? Do you know why that's there? You know, I want and I want that kid to think, hey, this is the goal that I should live up to, to care that much, to sacrifice that much. that's where you get this stuff. You laud your heroes because of that. You don't have those 12 layers of irony like,
Starting point is 00:56:28 oh, bro, this and that. No, that's cringe. Fuck off with that. That's not a culture that's just nihilism and nonsense. That's my first three feet. That's my first five feet, my first eight feet. The pedestal that his statue stands on.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You know, the fact that people are more interested in showing how clever they are. Right. Or, you know, I look at it this way. You know, I engage in conspiracy theories all the time, but I mean, I rarely ever talk about them on the show. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And, you know, in personal life, sure, you know, we can talk and have fun. But most of the people who I see engaging in conspiracy theories do so because they want to appear clever or like they have some kind of esoteric knowledge. You know, it's like, oh, I know something that you. You don't know. And it's just this smug. You know, it's smug. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Do you mind if I take the floor for a little bit on this? And I'm going to try and stay coherent. But as I suspect, and if I'm incorrect, please, please correct me. I suspect I'm the only guy that carries a gun for a living here. Is that correct? And does anybody do side work in security or law enforcement? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I don't. I suspect I'm the only one that's trained in executive protection. Is that correct? or incorrect. Okay. That would be correct. Okay. All right. Again, none of this has talked myself up. I'm just trying to, I want to make sure that I don't try and overstep my bounds. Okay, so I want to address a few of these, you know, the points about you're saying about
Starting point is 00:58:04 conspiracy. It's like, all right, first off, I was in law enforcement. I was in federal law enforcement. If you want to say, well, this guy hesitated because, you know, he was a Jew or a Mason or he got a special wink or a special handshake, okay, maybe that's possible. but I shave with Occam's razor twice a day. I shave with Occam's Razor twice a day. And what Occam's Razor tells me, as a guy that carries a gun for a living, as a guy that's been in law enforcement,
Starting point is 00:58:32 as a guy that does executive protection, what that tells me is that really this guy hesitated because we live in such an over-feminized world, he is terrified of his world collapsing because he shoots some kid that just wants to get a really good picture of President Trump. Oh, well, he saw the rifle. Did he? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I wasn't there. But I can tell you, I know you can lose your job for doing your job. You can't lose your job for not doing your job in law enforcement. Pete, do you recall when we talked on the episode bordering on insanity? Do you recall that you and me speaking? back and forth about that? Yeah, of course. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Well, I was, this is the same thing I mentioned there. I didn't get fired for not doing my job. I got fired for doing my job. Now, does that excuse this guy? No, that's not necessarily what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback when you're, you don't have any skin in the game. When you weren't there, it's not your career on the line.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It's not your kids that are going to go without food. It's not you going to lose your house. Okay, I was willing to push back, but you know what? I've been broke ever since. You know what? I've been drifting from job to job ever since. It cost me my potential marriage. It costs me kids.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Dean knows this story about me quite well. And not a lot of guys are willing to do that. Am I saying I'm a hero for that? No. What I'm saying, though, is it is, again, a garden of gestemone moment. you either understand that you are willing to take death upon you, whether it be physical, financial, professional, social, whatever. You are willing to take death.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And a lot of people aren't. They just aren't. And you only find out in those clutch moments when it really happens. And then somebody said that a cop was climbing up the ladder to go to the roof and he spotted them. Okay, they're like, oh, I didn't the cop do something? Do you know how to climb up a ladder? You ever done any actual work? Well, climbing up a ladder takes both hands.
Starting point is 01:00:50 What are you going to draw your gun with? Your teeth? Okay, so you're standing at the top of a ladder with both your hands on a ladder, and this guy spins around and puts a rifle in your face. What are you going to do? Use harsh language. Tell them to put it down. You're just going to get shot in the fucking face, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:05 No, what you should do is get down a little bit and immediately call for everybody. Hey, there's a guy on the roof. Shoot him, shoot him. and then draw your weapon if you can with your hand, try and get up with one hand. But again, like everybody wants to be Monday morning quarterback. And was there a lot of incompetence there? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:01:25 No doubt. And keep in mind, like if you want to talk about a conspiracy, I don't need to organize anything. All I got to do is put a bunch of dim wits and DEIs on your detail and let the public do the rest. Because if you want to know my attitude on this conspiracy, here's what it is, plain and simple. All it was was they spent years, literally years, making this guy to be the worst thing since
Starting point is 01:01:51 Adolf Hitler, you know, trademark, the worst thing since Adolf Hitler. And then they just give him the worst of the worst of the secret service. All the people that probably would get fired in any other industry. And they just go, yeah, you work on his detail now. And then you let nature take its course. Why? Because you didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Oh, I was just reporting the news. You called him literally Hitler. Hey, we're allowed to make a comparison. Oh, you set him up. You planned this. No, I didn't. We gave him secret security detail, secret service detail. Yeah, let's see their personal records.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I would not be at all surprised to see a lot of them have been disciplined. Or a lot of them, this is their punishment detail. And then you just let fate take its course. Hmm. I didn't know. I have no blood on my hands. I didn't do anything. Now, of course, every man in this room knows they do, but I'm telling you, if you want anything, I would say it's let it happen syndrome. They don't actually have to plan
Starting point is 01:02:53 anything. They can just drum up violent rhetoric until some tranny or lunatic grabs a rifle and goes after him. And then they just put the worst of the worst on his detail and let nature take its course. Tiree over. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is this point. plausible as everything else. I mean, it's amazing to me that you have people who will talk about the how bad the like competency crisis is.
Starting point is 01:03:25 But no, obviously it wouldn't affect Secret Service or government or anything like that. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, agreed. That just makes them look like, makes their theories look stupid, like incoherence there. Oh, yeah. I got told like I got tweeted in on your thread Pete like this conspiracy stuff like it was largely
Starting point is 01:03:52 relevant in the 20th century um like pulling off these fault complicated false flags was uh was relevant in the 20th century when you actually had like skilled people in government but dude like these days um if there's a conspiracy that's being kicked off it's largely being outsourced like the NGO space or like some like private like sector actor because like we're in a DEI Shiniqua state man like there nobody there can be can carry out the most like yeah yeah exactly the DMV the head of the secret service is a fat woman yep I mean right this is what I'm saying like that you're yeah that's exactly what I'm saying like like or everywhere's TSA right right yeah like yeah like like like yeah like like like
Starting point is 01:04:40 All they did was taken already crumbling, corrupt, useless organization and put the least useful members of it on his detail. Like, that's all they have to do. If I was Donald Trump, I would be calling Eric Prince right. I would have called him already and said, look, what's it going to take? You guys are now in charge of executive protection. You know, because I guarantee Eric Prince knows people who could actually do the job. Well, here's, I think Thomas 77 said this a while back. And I believe he said this.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And he said, you know, if this was a sane country, we would be doing back what we did in the 40s and the 50s. We would be trying to get all the smart, small town white guys to get back in government service. Like, like, and again, I don't say this to pat myself on the back, but this happened because I'm not there. They got, and I don't mean me necessarily personally. I'm an old guy now. So maybe I wouldn't have been able to do jack shit. But the point I'm making is you don't think they got rid of everybody like me or 90% of guys like me. Why do you think the SAT was invented?
Starting point is 01:05:50 The SAT was literally invented to find those guys. Right, exactly. Yes. Like there was a crazy. It was invented to find guys from small towns in Iowa. Right. That had 130, 140, 150 IQs and get them to places where they could go to. and Stanford or, right, and Caltech or Harvard and put men on the moon or, right.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And that's what Thomas 77 was saying. This was the same country. They would be, they would be using their resources to pull every smart white guy from around the country. And they wouldn't be working for Elon Musk. They wouldn't be working for Boeing. They wouldn't be working for McDonald-Douglas. They'd be working for the government.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Why? because you want the best and brightest to go not only when they be working for the government they'd make there'd be policies in place to make sure that they all had five kids or six kids kids yeah seven kids right but i'm just saying i want to address with something thomas seven seven seven had said it was i just thought that was when he said that it really hit me like a bolt out of the blue i was like this man is exactly right yeah thomas's not brilliant that people need to listen to him more but like this is I was sorry, I've been distracted.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I was just literally arguing with someone who, you know, this Corey fellow was apparently active on Twitter. And he was right about Ukraine. He was telling people to stop funding Ukraine and he was wrong about Palestine because, you know, he's a conservative white guy. Right. The problem isn't this guy has the wrong opinions. The problem is that he's been lied to for his entire life.
Starting point is 01:07:23 He's 50 years old. He's 50 years old. So he was born in like 1975. Yep. 1974. Yep. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:32 He was lied to his entire life. And he was never. given a chance to listen to this show and learn the truth about. Yeah, I'm looking to his political views is just out of pocket. I just like, yeah, I just find like this whole like internet smooth culture of this like delving into like the minute details of his views. It's just, uh, it's just really off-putting like, um, regard like, I think it's more important to talk about like the environment that the guy, was brought in like these mentioning that he's just been lied to but he has like heroic instincts like any freaking normal human being has and that's him being a freaking normal human being is
Starting point is 01:08:16 sufficient grounds to be like persecuted in this fucking political order we live in bingo that's exactly it right and i want to step to something you're saying about him d remember i'm actually older than he was if he was 50 i'm a year older than he was so i can personally attest that yes i've been lied to my whole life. The only difference between he and I is that my life was burned down to, and that's why it's my handle, whiskey and ashes, and his wasn't. So I had to learn the hard way all the lies, what they all were. And I can attest to this because Charles and I kind of became anti-sumites together in the last 10 years. Right? Like neither one of us started out. You know, Pete and I did a show like January timeframe about how I used to love Dennis Prager.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And this guy was lied to by the same people who were talking of like, oh, Trump had an incident. If Pete had me depressed like he deserves and Jose Nino was the number one, you know, Latino columnist at the New York Times, right? Then this guy would know what's up. That's what, that's what would happen. This guy, this guy wouldn't be, you know, he was just lied to. for his whole life about the fact that the Israelis are our friends. I can't get mad at that guy for believing things. Like, he's not a bad guy by his,
Starting point is 01:09:49 by he showed the turn of his character by jumping in front of a bullet for his wife and his kid. So I, this, this good man deserves better than to be, you know, talked about in a deraitary fashion because that's who we're trying to save the country for. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:06 That's who's going to build. Like if we ever, if miracles happen and we somehow make this, make it so we're in charge, good people, we're saying people are in charge again. Guys like that are giving me the backbone of our society. They always were. They always have been. And they need to be respected and treated with them. And again, they didn't go after Donald Trump because he's a Nazi. They went after him because they think he would stand up for.
Starting point is 01:10:36 ordinary white people. That's why they went after him. Yes. The fact that he was competent, the fact that he had, you know, he could do a job that he was competent at, the fact that he
Starting point is 01:10:52 is probably a hero on more than one occasion, the fact that, you know, he had a family that he took care of a lot of different facts is just, I mean, they hate that. I mean, they'd much rather that person can't that person doesn't need them you know the you know the welfare the welfare queen with five or six kids you know that's who they rely upon that's their that's their bread and butter their bread and butter is
Starting point is 01:11:25 or the you know is that um i forget who had the tweet today but it said um you shoot into a crowd at a Trump rally and you hit a firefighter and a hero. You shoot into a crowd in Kenosha, Wisconsin. You hit a pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah. And that's who they, you know, they'll never, they'll never build a statute of this guy, but they would, they don't mind.
Starting point is 01:11:53 They would want to build a statute to, you know, these chomos that they, that they thought were black until the trial actually happened. Half of them didn't even know he was, half of them didn't even know that they were Jewish. Yeah. Jimmy, Jimmy Dorr, who's, you know, slowly waking up guy on the left. I think we talked about him only yesterday, Pete, like, he didn't know. He thought Kyle Rittenhouse was racist. He just didn't know because he paid attention to lefty media.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And they, you know, he heard this guy shot three people at a BLM rally. And he thought he was racist. That's. And, you know, Aaron's been cooking lately and, you know, tap the sign. No matter how much you think you hate journalists, it's not enough. You know, prison company basically everyone who's ever been a reporter should be flogged just on general principle. Because those lies are destroying our society and they're getting good people killed. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:00 every day. Good people are getting killed. And our society is going down the drain because these people know the truth and refuse to talk about it. Because they're Jews, because they're coming, because they're homosexuals, because they're the people that Pete talked about this, the left depends on. Because they're affirmative action, DEI, you know, 350 pound black women with three inch nails. Yeah. You got something, Jose? No, yeah, I want to double down on these calls to clamp down on journalists because I was cooking also on Twitter, like just calling for the absolute destruction of corporate media. And like freaking clockwork, there was the typical libertarian counter singling like, oh, like this stuff is like downstream from like the government. And I'm like, I don't care if it's like private sector or public sector.
Starting point is 01:13:58 like you're like we need like for shit regardless of um of like how it's being care what capacity it's being carried out and it's freaking uh it's a it's a cancer on our policy like yeah so i'll have to say there yeah and you know another thing that that i'm getting is when i was talking in my live stream today is yeah you have people who are like well you know trump's not our guy Trump's a dog Trump said really you you fucking think I don't know this you I mean come on man yeah add some type of commentary or something yeah yeah it's like really really I mean I had some agorist libertarian a couple weeks ago no you know if you if if you if Trump gets elected it's gonna be a it's a pressure release valve on the
Starting point is 01:14:53 right really where'd you read that Did you read that? Was I writing that on my substack like two years ago? Well, who the fuck do you think? You think I haven't thought about all this shit? You think we don't, you know, I'm talking, you know, it talks to the guys from the OGC. You think we don't know that Trump's not our guy?
Starting point is 01:15:14 But we're going to be like they tried to kill him because he likes to chuds. Right. Because they hate him because we like him. Right. Because we think he's like him. Yeah. They hate him because he doesn't eat us.
Starting point is 01:15:29 That's why they. Right. Yes. That's it. That's it. Yeah. They hate him because he doesn't hate us. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Right. That's exactly it. And I stand by my statement. I'm not going to back pedal. They also hate him because he's just normal. I mean, for crying out loud, even Jimmy Dory had a great little blurb about him about Trump versus Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And they're like, how bad are you? This is Jimmy Dory's words. It's not mine. I'm paraphrasing, of course. but you can find it. Jimmy Dory had a broadcast that I watched and it was he was saying, how bad are you, Nancy Pelosi, that the average rural American identifies closer with Trump than he does with you, the guy that literally has gold-plated toilets. And these people, these people flock to
Starting point is 01:16:14 Trump over you, Nancy Pelosi. Like how far out of touch? How anti-normal are you that they flocked to him? It's like, exactly, because, you know, Trump still has a wife. He has kids. He doesn't hate white people. I mean, he still always panders to all the other non-whites, but he doesn't hate white people. You know, he's very much a civic nationalist. Again, I'm not saying these are necessarily laudable points of being a civil or civic nationalist. But what I'm saying is they're far more normal than anybody, any of the other, anything the left can produce.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Well, one of the one of the great comments from my my chat this afternoon at my live stream chat was someone named LS said Trump's politics aside. He's been a stand in for white people and our collective will in the eyes of the enemy since he first started campaigning. This is an attack on us. Yeah. Oh, agree. He's not. He's a symbol. Nothing more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Well, this goes back to what I said earlier. in today's broadcast. I said that's why he can't die. If you roll it back, that's exactly what I said. I said, that's why he can't die. I mean, that's why he should. That's why it would be very bad if he did. Not that again, if you roll it back, I said not that he obviously can be killed by a bullet. But I mean, that's why he's important because he is that symbol. He is that voice. And maybe it's not, yes, I know. Everybody here knows, yes, he's not our guy. But he's the closest thing we've had in what, D, 100 years? You know, something like that?
Starting point is 01:17:54 70. 50 at least, Nixon or Kennedy. Yeah. Look what happened to both them. Bingo. Now, will this radicalize him? You know, one of the things that I said today on Twitter was, you know, he's, from what I understand, he's gone straight to Milwaukee today.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So he'll be there for a couple days before he gives his speech. He'll be out of the public eye. it would be awesome if they wrote him this in like the best speech we've heard in a hundred years where he just calls these people out for what they did you know and you know basically says the stuff that we're saying and he goes on the offensive against these people even if he doesn't this is still a narrative that we can use yes this is still a narrative this is still a narrative this still are narrative. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:50 We don't. In the end, the same people who will say, you know, well, you know, Trump can't save us. When you talk about narrative, they're like, well, you, you know, you need a politician. No, you don't. You don't need a politician to push a narrative. Right. And the same people, they make it seem like we believe that a politician is actually coming to save us. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I don't think any of us believe that. No. Put not your trust in princes. The Bible itself says that. Put not your trust in princes. Was that grown from me, Jose? Or was that from... This wasn't true that.
Starting point is 01:19:31 No, no, no, no, no. I would add to some of these people is that they needed to start like assuming their historical role altogether because a lot of things are up for grabs to be honest here um there this is not the system that we see before our eyes is actually unraveling and people are going to have to step up to the plate or else somebody else will and
Starting point is 01:20:02 it's probably going to be some fucked up actor or in some cases some controlled opposition and i think this is this is the time uh for heroes not um people sitting on the sidelines or typing from their computers. And you can do this in many ways, too, whether it's actually producing good content or like getting out there like in the political realm and acquiring the necessary experience to actually become a net positive there.
Starting point is 01:20:36 But like these types here, I just think that like the system ultimately wants you to be just another deep purpose personalized bug man and the system that's doing nothing, like that's just contributing to this overall epistemic pollution of bad takes and I guess like letting things go as they are. But I do believe that I actually do take some pleasure and just watching the system collapse because it's going to force people to go back to their primordial animalistic tendencies of going back to like a hard politics because I want the system to unravel. And we need we need people to like actually stop being pussies and actually get, get ready to inflict pain on these degenerates.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Amen. I've got another engagement gentleman. Good conversation. I got to duck out. But this is, it's over. whatever Nuremberg regime nonsense
Starting point is 01:21:51 they're going to talk about I know long of regard I didn't think the 2020 election was legit ordinary people now see the system for what it is and I just don't I don't know what comes next
Starting point is 01:22:06 but there's no chance after this that the average Trump supporter is going to accept a Biden victory they're just not and they shouldn't. And we'll see how it plays out. But seeing all these people on TikTok lose their minds,
Starting point is 01:22:27 they know that they want that they don't hate Trump. They hate them. They hate ordinary people. They hate saying people. They hate healthy people. They hate people to go to church. So it's going to be a very fraught few months. and like Charles said, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:45 make your peace with the fact that, that it could be any time and be prepared. Yeah. Well, if you're going to get out of here, man, thank you for, thank you for showing up. And I think we're going to wrap up too because, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:01 I think worried about an end here. I'll give everybody a chance to drop any other opinions they have on what's going on. And then we'll end this. So if you need to dip out, DE, thank you. Thank you for showing up again. I appreciate it. All right, Charles, you have anything you want to end up, end with?
Starting point is 01:23:22 No, I think everything's been covered pretty clearly. I just wanted to make a few points regarding the earlier. I wanted to make a few points about the potential conspiracy theories. And I side with you largely on all of it. I think that's the wrong direction to head in. And the right direction is to make the utmost use of this, as we can. And just to reiterate, and I'll drop it after this, but just to reiterate once again, this is an existential fight. This is, I really don't believe it's about ideologies. I'm going to
Starting point is 01:23:54 lean on the now famous mystery growth tweet. Everything out, the ideology is just window dressing. This is the ugly deformed freaks wanting to destroy everything that is beautiful and good and everything else is just window dressing. and just be ready. This is the garden of Gistamany any moment for many of us, so be ready. What do you got, Jose? I would just like to reiterate
Starting point is 01:24:22 that we are witnessing a system collapse contrary to what some people who say that the American Empire has good multiple decades in it. I don't believe that at all. I actually do think that we are witnessing on unraveling out the system. and as a result you're going to see a breakdown in political norms where basic legislative functions and all of that are just not going to take place.
Starting point is 01:24:50 And as a result of that, you're going to see extra political forms of violence and other forms of conflict manifest themselves across the U.S. and ensuing decades. and hard like very like crude forms of primitive politics are going to emerge and people must be ready for this because we've been way too conditioned since World War II to this like Mr. Smith goes to Washington or schoolhouse rock type politics where things happen in like an orderly like polite manner that's going to go out the window soon man and people are going to have to like learn actual skills where they have to band together. They can no longer hide behind computers or engage in abstractions. They're going to have to build stuff together. They're going to have to commit selfless acts of heroism like this guy at the Trump rally did. Because the days of deracinated individualism and mindless consumerism are over, you're going to have to fight for a much higher purpose and interact with people. and build like solidarity because you can't do that you pretty much lost because most politics
Starting point is 01:26:10 is organized in nature and those who can um dish out organized violence more effectively are the ones who end that's a great message that's great that's a great way to put it hose yeah the you know if you want to start taking back that that that first foot that yard that you know that that hundred yards that mile, you're not going to be able to do it alone. You're going to have to find people to do it with no reconquest, no conquest was taken alone. You need someone. You need people there. So, you know, when Jose says this whole deracinated individualism, this this classical liberal libertarianism, it's dead. It's dead. It's dead and gone. I mean, it's just...
Starting point is 01:27:03 It's time for great men and people assuming historical roles. Yeah, and, you know, you can try to make great men out of people who are telling you that you, oh, you know, you deserve to be left alone. And, yeah, but if they're not willing to, if they're not willing to become a bulwark, a literal, physical bulwark and start to work with you to do that, they're not, they're not great men. they're just, they're selling you something. They're selling you something or they're just, they're, there is misguided, there is misguided as you are. And, you know, I hate to say that because I like a lot of people who preach that message. But it, at this point in time, after what we saw yesterday, I mean,
Starting point is 01:27:55 taking that shot, taking that shot at Trump, no matter what you thought happened, the whole, the whole idea behind that is to take a shot at you if you don't agree with them and that that bullet was meant for you they're just I mean they hate Trump because
Starting point is 01:28:19 they see they see him as a stand in for what you are what you believe for who you are and yeah to to believe that you can allow this regime to just keep
Starting point is 01:28:37 gaining power but also destroying everything it just if they're going to destroy you have to build and that starts that starts with the first
Starting point is 01:28:55 foot in the first yard yep and yeah reconcissa it is yeah we are we are at reconquist the reconquista stage so yeah that's it gentlemen thank you for joining me and yeah until the next time thank you Pete thank you very much thank you so much take care

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