The Pete Quiñones Show - **Throwback** Reading Samuel T. Francis' 'The Cult of Dr King' w/ Charlemagne

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

79 MinutesPG-13This is a re-release from 2024 when Charlie joined Pete for an MLK Day livestream in which they read and commented on Samuel T. Francis' 1988 article, "The Cult of Dr. King."Charlemagne...'s SubstackCharlemagne's YouTubeOld Glory Club YouTube ChannelOld Glory Club SubstackThe Cult of Dr KingPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:03:51 I never thought I'd be happy for it to be MLK Day, but I'm off work and desperately needed some sleep because that blizzard that came through the whole country basically was pretty devastating, and I basically got no sleep the last two nights before last night. So thank you, Martin Luther King, for letting me rest. Yeah, it's, of course, being in Alabama, we're not getting it here and everything, but it's going to drop into the teens a couple nights this week.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And, I mean, people are just going to lose their minds. Yeah, it was freaking crazy. I mean, what was it? Three nights ago, it was minus 35 here. Real time. Windchill, it was minus 55, which, which is, is insane. Whenever it gets that coal, I always think of the Vermacht. I find it very educational. Oh, man. I mean, it's like when you read, when you read DeGrelles, the book I have back there on the Russian campaign, it's just brutal.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And I was reading, I read another book on the Blue Division, the Spanish division. You can imagine how those guys felt coming from the climate they were in. Yeah, I started listening to the DeGrelle stream last night. That's a large chunk. of content there. It's like almost three and a half hours long. That should be interesting. I've read a good number of memoirs at this point and even a fiction book, mostly also recommended by Thomas. So yeah, the last Citadel was the fiction novel I read. That was quite good. Well, let's, let's start off with this. Let's get our friend Devon Stack had a tweet today. And what did he say? Black people, the last. like MLK are like kids who think Santa is real. White people that like MLK are like adults that think Santa, the tooth fairy, and count chocular
Starting point is 00:05:51 are real. Yeah, I think that's just a perfect summary of the myth of MLK. When you really think about it, I mean, what do most people know about MLK? They know, he said, like, I have a dream, and it was that people are judged by the content
Starting point is 00:06:07 of their character and not the color of their skin. And that's literally the only, the only thing they know about MLK and they have this entire mythology built up around him. I mean, just ask any normie what they actually know about MLK and see if they can cite
Starting point is 00:06:23 literally anything other than that one quote. When you think about it, most people know absolutely nothing about this guy. They just know that one line and they have this whole concept that's been propagandized into their brain about what he is, what he represents. Yeah, I put, you know, the, what is it, like the Rockwell painting of the guy standing up and everybody always does
Starting point is 00:06:45 different stuff. He's in a room, people. And I posted that on my shockingly still have a Facebook account this morning. And I said, happy MLK Day on and it said, I hate them for the content of their character. Yeah, I saw that. That was a good meme. All right. So let's stop sharing this. I see every let's see I mean we got about a hundred on YouTube um got 23 on on Odyssey waiting for rumble as the as the as the question goes preger was somebody just says um Justin and eight liner Justin Lainter said Prager J.U has been ratioed today pretty hard oh I didn't see them. I probably have them blocked. So yeah, yeah, yeah, real quick. Yeah, I can't I can't deal with that. No. All right. So entropy is going. And yeah, let's, let's share this and get this started because this is a,
Starting point is 00:07:49 it's not the longest article we've ever read, but it's definitely lengthy. So this was written in 1988 by Samuel Francis. This is good 12 years before he got canceled. and I think it was for Chronicle print version of Chronicles magazine at the time. Most likely. I mean, 1988, I doubt it was a digital publication. No,
Starting point is 00:08:16 it wasn't digital at all. And they re-put, they redid it here. And this is three years after Ronald Reagan, the hero of the right, made MLK's birthday a holiday. So let me start reading. here because this is if no one's ever read this they'll uh they're in for something here before you do can
Starting point is 00:08:40 can we check at that illustration real quick i think it's just a great illustration it reminds me of those uh demonology books from the catholic church uh showing you know the various demons from hell and false idols and that sort of thing i i really like uh i wonder who made that actually it's got initials on it but it's a it's a great illustration to show the sort of uh idolatrous position uh m o occupies in America? So many. So many people occupied, too. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But not all of them get a day. So, all right. The third annual observance of the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. passed happily enough in the nation's capital with the local merchants uploading their assorted junk into the hands of an eager public. It is hardly surprising that King Day observed as a federal legal public holiday since 1986 has already become part of the cycle of mass indulgence through which the national economy annually revolves.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Excuse me. Christmas itself commemorating an event almost as important as the nativity of Dr. King has long been notorious for its materialism and appetitive excesses and a visit to any shopping mall will alert the consumer of the next festal occasion on the public calendar and instruct him in what ways and to what extent he is expected to turn out his pockets in its celebration. I think it's appetitive, but, you know, I'm just a street kid. Let me alone. Since Dr. King, wherever he is now, has been promoted to full fellowship in the National
Starting point is 00:10:22 Pantheon, it is to be expected that he too must perform his office and keeping the wheels of American commerce well greased. I like the line wherever he is now at the moment. That's a sly little thing I missed the first time I read this. Yes, Stone Choir did an episode on Michael King
Starting point is 00:10:43 in which they showed that he was he had no way held to the tenets of Christianity. Yeah, and what he says about the commodification here, I suppose it's dwarfed now by what they've done to Christmas, but it's been interesting
Starting point is 00:10:59 over my life to observe the commodification of Christmas to where it's It's so far removed from any sort of religious celebration at this point. You know, we, I remember when this idea of Black Friday got really big and now the entirety of Thanksgiving is like the Black month, which is interesting to use that particular color in relation to Christmas. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:21 it's like two months of just engorge yourself on consuming product and quote unquote deals on crap from China. Yeah. And yeah, MLK Day, same thing. I mean, you know, does anyone celebrate? The day, no, no, not really. Well, considering how many merchants were around him, it's not, you know, you would expect that his holiday would be commoditized in some way.
Starting point is 00:11:47 What is remarkable about the King holiday, however, is that alone among the ten national holidays created by act of Congress, it is celebrated in other ways that are pretty much in keeping with its original purpose. While the other nine festivities are merely excuses for protracted buying and selling, three day weekends with an attractive compadre or orgies of eat and swill punctuated by football games. Only the third Monday in January is the regular subject of solemn expatiations by the Brahmin's
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Starting point is 00:13:33 Newspaper columnists, television commentators, and public school teachers. The nearest things we have to a priesthood devote at least a week to discussing Dr. King's life and achievements and their place in our national consciousness. Certainly they do not explore the lives of Jesus Christ, George Washington, or Christopher Columbus with such piety, nor do they usually dedicate much time to reflecting on the less anthropomorphized occasions that celebrate national independence, public Thanksgiving, or remembrance of American fallen in war for the fatherland. only Dr. King seems to elicit effusions from the guardians of the public tongue and as in the rituals of the heathen gods of old, woe to the blasphemer who fails to bend the knee.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I think that's supposed to be gods of old, but it could be gods of eld. Yeah, I mean, this is the one, he makes a good point there. You wouldn't see on Christmas Day or Christopher Columbus Day, you know, I guess now we would say tweets for the most part about, you know, how, how, the importance of these men or the great things they've done. But on MLK day, you see literally everybody, including so-called right-winger's, you know, sort of praising MLK as this idol of the true spirit of America. We're all brought together.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You know, under those lines I quoted from, is I have a dream speech earlier. It is the one time where, like, everyone comes together and puts their differences aside and celebrates. I mean, really, it's mostly just like white. people doing this on Twitter and for these magazines. In fact, I have no idea what black people do on MLK Day. I probably, as he said, just, you know, engage in the sort of orgy of engorgement and consumerism.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, I think they just take the day off just like pretty much everybody else does. And since most businesses are still open, they go ahead and get errands done. That's pretty much what I think everyone's doing. The fate of Jimmy the Greek Snyder is a case in point, though not unique. Approached, I'm so old, I remember this. Approached at a table at Duke Zeibert's restaurant in Washington on the Friday before the official ceremonies, Mr. Snyder, a sports commentator created and employed by CBS, was asked by a local reporter for his views on the progress of blacks and professional athletics.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Mr. Snyder perhaps has dined too well, and he was foolish enough to say what he really thought in response to the uninvited question. Yeah, he had been drinking just a bit. He praised the accomplishments and hard work of black athletes, made some insulting remarks about the laziness of white athletes, and suggested that the athletic prowess of blacks was due in part to their having been bred for size and strength in antebellum days, specifically for their big thighs, and that they can jump higher and run faster because of their big thighs. It is not known if the Greek, a professional gambler, gave odds on how long he would keep his $750,000 a year job after uttering his inanities, but there was little time to place any bets and probably few would have taken them.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Within 24 hours, Mr. Snyder was in the ranks of the unemployed. Yeah, that's pretty interesting to read for me since this was written before I was born, and this easily could have just been written yesterday, and you just replace Snyder with some other canceled white person. And I guess it really highlights how, you know, we have this stupid concept called the woke. I really hate this term. It's mostly used by center-right people to obfuscate the true issues. But this kind of brought to mind to me the sort of myth of the 90s.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And I'm probably getting slightly ahead of myself here. But people talk about, you know, return to the 90s. This time when the 90s was like this time of unity and everything was like, pretty good and people will well off and you didn't see the crazy racial tension today but that's all just a lie i think a lot of this myth comes from millennials like myself all they are a member of the nineties is you know nintendo sagu genesis die hard fun movies but really if you if you think the 90s existed um as i've described you've actually just been duped by hollywood because the the idea of the 90s is as this sort of island of stability like you know in nuclear
Starting point is 00:18:00 physics you have this idea of islands of stability for like highly unstable elements that's not it's not actually real that never happened it was never like that so-called cancel culture always existed um and there was never this sort of great time period uh you know right at the end of the cold war where america was this this unified like post racial state it just didn't happen if and if you believe any of that you've literally just been duped by the movies um You know, that's what I was asking, I was, you know, asking someone the other day, like, what do you actually know about World War II, for example, that isn't from the movies? Like, do you know anything about World War II that isn't from the movies? Same thing as I brought up earlier with MLK.
Starting point is 00:18:47 What do you actually know about him other than that one quote that you memorized from your school days? So, yeah, I think this article is really punctuates this point that everything we think is new right now isn't new at all. just really coming for everyone at this point. And that, you know, there was never a time when this stuff wasn't there. And we should have, you know, stomp it out a long time ago. Anyway. Yes. You know, when you really look at this, like when you look at the movement of King, so when
Starting point is 00:19:20 does the real civil rights move, when does it really start to pop off? When do you really start to see organization? It's after Brown v. Board. Before Brown versus Board of Education, sure, there was some, you know, actually, but you didn't have this militancy until Brown versus Board of Education. You know, and if from my reading of race war in high school, the whole book by Harold Saltzman, it really just goes to show that you have, you went from, okay, you have, we're going to force you to desegregate the schools to, teachers being lit on fire 15 years later. Yeah, MLK, the whole reason we're taught about him in that one particular quote and how he was quote unquote nonviolent, which is a lie. It's all just this thing so that you can trick white people
Starting point is 00:20:17 into accepting the entire civil rights movement, which is 98% violent like Malcolm X, for example, weather underground, take your pick. And it's just a trick, you know, a very simple trick played on white people to make them think that this the civil rights move it is just totally benign and all about fairness and you know the the minority cases when you know it actually becomes violent but that's all just a lie. Our buddy prude here says I don't know if you've read it but you should give what went wrong what went wrong with the creation and collapse of the black Jewish alliance. I'm just sharing that so that I can have it in
Starting point is 00:21:00 have it on the screen so I can come back to it later. By the way, anyone who wants a super chat, I'll read your comment. I mean, I don't really care what the comment is. If it's insane, I may censor it a little bit, but comment away, please. Mr. Snyder was not the first victim of the new deity, and the practice of ruining a white person once a year in honor of Dr. King is becoming a national tradition. Last year, the victim was another sports figure, Los Angeles Dodgers official Al Campanis, who was asked on ABC TV's nightline about black athletic performance and wound up discoursing on the comparative buoyancy of the races when immersed in water.
Starting point is 00:21:43 He too got his clock cleaned by his employers, and though the incident did not occur in connection with Dr. King's birthday, it did happen to fall during the week of the 19th anniversary of the Civil Rights Leader assassination in April of 19th. You got something? Yeah, I just find this interesting because it's like it's not enough to just, you know, praise black people. If you do it in like an out of date fashion that more or less shows you're not, it's sort of like a shit test for whether or not you're really one of them. Like now we have the term people of color or whatever and you can only you can only keep up with the latest terminology if you're sort of a true believer. So it's not even enough for you to like, you know, praise them and say, anti-white statements.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Like, you have to do it in this very specific, updated, ritualized way, or else they sort of, they detect that you're, you know, not from the same ant colony and just destroy you instantly. Urban non-swimmers. That's funny. Thank you, Toledo Solomanka. All right. Onward. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:52 In 1986, when King Day was first celebrated after its enactment by Congress in 1983, the victim got off easy. In Montgomery County, Maryland, Mrs. Karen Collins, a part-time music teacher in a Silver Spring Elementary School, made the mistake of giving her private opinion to a colleague that the country was making too much of Dr. King and that she had heard
Starting point is 00:23:12 that he had been a communist supporter and had communist friends. True. Her remark was overheard by some students who ran home to tell their parents who alerted the local NACP to the presence of un-American activities. Even before the NAACP invited itself to settle the matter, however,
Starting point is 00:23:31 Mrs. Collins had received a reprimand from her principal, had been placed on an administrative leave, transferred to another school, and required to enroll in a human relations course where she could learn something about the American way. Ready for huge savings? We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse sale is back.
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Starting point is 00:25:01 but he was probably just acting out, you know, the Nuremberg moral paradigm here and just did all the work for them. That's exactly what I was thinking, Nuremberg, yeah. Yeah. Cato Man 55 over on entropy with Super Chat says, throughout the 20th century, there was a concentrated effort by Jewish activists like Frank Boas, Ashley Montague, Stephen J. Gould to distort scientific truth to benefit their
Starting point is 00:25:28 own ethnic group. Monsicue explicitly stated reducing anti-semitism was his goal of his promotion of biological equality. All right. Let us move on. Thank you for that. The NAA CP was not at all satisfied and demanded her dismissal. Quote, any person who says Dr. King was a communist is either maliciously racist or uninformed, said Roscoe Nix, president of the local chapter. I wonder where he learned that where he learned that from, where, you know, anybody who says A is B. Actually, well, I mean, if you know who actually started the NAACP and it wasn't black people, yeah, might have an idea. Actually, it was never certain exactly what Mrs. Collins had said. She denied saying the king was a communist and after her disciplining school superintendent Wilmer S. Cody acknowledged,
Starting point is 00:26:30 that, quote, although her exact words are still in dispute, she did express some satisfaction about the school system's special program concerning Martin Luther King's birthday. Mrs. Collins appears to have kept her job, but the God whom she blasphemed had tasted blood. This reminds you of that popular video I published called No Exit. It's not a nut. You can't just opt out of their system. You know, if you don't, especially if you're in one of these, you know, priesthood positions, like an educator, if you don't zealously bow down to their idols
Starting point is 00:27:04 and zealously enforce their moral paradigm, they're going to come after you. There's really no way you can sort of be the House Conservatives successfully that always backfires on you in the end. And it's actually worse to be that than to be one of them because then you're just a traitor to your own people.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Good point. A.O. asks a question, super chat over an entropy. do you think the MLK idolatry will begin to crack when the FBI files are declassified? Nah. Yeah, I say no. Yeah. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I mean, the release. That's like winning with facts and logic. Like that just yeah. They're really and we're not laughing at you. A.O. You know I'm not laughing at you because I know you and I respect you. We're laughing because it's just, yeah, I'm laughing because nothing ever changes with the release of information. Nothing gets better.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I mean, even the Snowden leaks and even the Wikipedia, I mean, what does it change? Things just get shittier and shittier. Yeah, because it, you know, that's sort of the irony of the internet is the access to all information was supposed to fix these problems. But you still just have controlled sources like Wikipedia. So it doesn't really matter how much information is out there. What matters is, you know, what's on the controlled platforms that are, you know, taken to be. canonical. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Moving on. If the reader thinks I exaggerate the metaphor of King as God, consider the demand in 1979 and since to add Dr. King's letter from the Birmingham jail to the Bible. At the third annual conference of the Black Theology Project in 1979, a proposal to add the letter as an epistle in the New Testament was approved by the convention of about 40 black ministers, theologians, and lay people, and the Reverend Muhammad Kenyatta, instructor in sociology at Haverford College, held that we believe God worked through Dr. King in that jail in Birmingham in 1963 to reveal his holy word, end quote. The pious sociologists also noted that, quote, people generally do not realize that the process of deciding what is in what is or is not holy scripture has been an ongoing one, end quote.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah, this is a big problem with Americans. If there's one major thing you could criticize about Americans, and I found this tendency to in this book I read by Thomas Fleming, disease in the public mind, yeah, also recommended by Thomas. If you look at my blog, it's basically just book reviews of books recommended by Thomas. But basically abolitionism was this exact thing as well, where Americans just get obsessed with these.
Starting point is 00:29:59 like preacher characters who sort of speak in a certain religious way and they sort of project one of them that they're put there by God. And it's a big problem in revolutionary American politics that we've had from the beginning. And this is a sort of part of our character. It's probably intrinsic to our character. So I don't think we can get rid of it. But we need to understand how to sort of control this negative tendency in the American spirit to just become obsessed with the and idolize, you know, in a heretical way, frankly, these, these preacher characters that we just sort of declare like prophets from God. You know, if you speak in that,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I have a dream that every man and woman, regardless of color and creed, is, deserves a five piece chicken dendage from Popeyes. You know, it's like, um, like people just fall for this and like,
Starting point is 00:30:50 they have to stop that. Yeah. Um, super chat over on Odyssey from Potatoa mutt says, supposedly Malcolm X talked about the tribe a lot in his auto biography, but his co-author, Alex Haley, who later went on to write Roots, removed most of it. Haley also interviewed George Lincoln Rothwell for Playboy in the 1960s. The interview may be worth looking into.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And I will say, and this is basically, no one's reporting on this, but it is, everybody pretty much believes it in academia now. Haley's book Roots, that was turned into a mini-series that was meant to guilt every white person in the country for slavery. in the early 80s, completely made up. Just completely made up. So, you know, there you go. A whole bunch of including, including myself watching this going,
Starting point is 00:31:43 why are they weapon that man? Why are they weapon that man? It's like, yeah, it'd be like me. It'd be like me taking a frigging tire iron to my computer equipment here. Why would I want to, why would I want to hurt something, destroy something that makes me money? It's ridiculous. Anyway, moving on.
Starting point is 00:32:02 If the thirst of the new God were slaked only by the ritual slaughter of school teachers and sports commentators, if the thirst of the new God was slaked only by the slaughter, by the ritual slaughter of teachers and sports commentators, Dr. King's apotheosis might actually represent a step forward for the country, but evidence mounts that more is being demanded. King Day is in fact, King Day in fact represents a revolution in our national mythology, a transformation that seeks to delegitimize the symbols of American history and national identity and to redefine the meaning of the American Republic, perhaps even the meaning of the Christian faith. This, at least, is the explicit understanding of the holiday that the dominant molders of public opinion articulate every year in their ceremonial ruminations.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Writing in the New York Times on January 18th of this year, Vincent Harding, professor of religion and social transatlantic, at the Illif School of Technology in Denver rejected the notion that the King holiday that the King holiday commemorates merely a kind, gentle, and easily managed religious leader of a friendly crusade for racial integration. Such an understanding, he writes, would, quote, demean and trivialize Dr. King's meaning. And the higher truth of King Day is made of sterner stuff. The Martin Luther King of 1968, writes Mr. Harding, quote, was calling for and leading civil disobeying campaigns against the unjust war in Vietnam, courageously describing our nation as, quote, the greater purveyor of violence in the world today, he was arguing us away from a dependence on military solutions. He was encouraging young men to refuse to serve in the military, challenging them not to support America's anti-communist crusades,
Starting point is 00:33:48 which were really destroying the hopes of poor non-white peoples everywhere. This Martin Luther King was calling for a radical redistribution of wealth and political power, in American society as a way to provide food, clothing, shelter, medical care, jobs, education, and hope for all of our country's people. Right, it's race communism. Like, you know, BAP likes to point out. I think it's pretty accurate to call him a communist, both in the sort of original technical meeting and also, you know, in his racial politics. I mean, a friendly crusade for racial integration. Get real. I mean, this is a problem, too, where, uh, like the thing with MLK is like, oh, he's, he's peaceful or whatever. And like I said earlier, that just gets you to ignore all the violence. You know, I think it's actually right to, you know, judge people not just by what they do themselves, but what their followers do, you know, in their wake. I think that's a completely valid way to, you know, look at figures like this. And, you know, judging by everything else around MLK, you know, he was fully aware of what he was doing and the role he was playing in terms. of, you know, being this, you know, figure that white people were supposed to, uh, to love while, you know, providing cover for the, the radicals, uh, Malcolm X.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Connor on YouTube says, I'm taking a workplace harassment course for MLK Day. Thanks for the fire content. One of the things I wanted to say here when you go back to this paragraph, um, the transformation that seeks to legitimize the symbols of American history and national identity. Well, that happened. they succeeded in doing that. Also, perhaps even the meaning of the Christian faith.
Starting point is 00:35:32 They've succeeded in doing that. Even like the Presbyterian Church of America, when I went to one of their seminaries from 2000 and 2003, they were probably some of the most conservative people I've ever met with the conservative program. And I just thought the PCA would always be conservative. It's not anymore. they're changing the Southern Baptist Convention another one I mean I worked for them at one point they they're all bowing down to the woke and where did this stuff start it started with this
Starting point is 00:36:09 it all they've been bowing uh you know since before I was born they came out of the womb in in the bowed position because the you know their progenitors were doing it too like this has just been going on when was this written 88 so it's it's like 38 35 years or something something like that. It's been the same thing. All right. Roger Wilkins, civil rights leader, activist, and now a senior fellow at the Far Left Institute
Starting point is 00:36:35 for Policy Studies in Washington, had some similar thoughts about the meaning of Dr. King's legacy in the Washington Post, and similar interpretations of the man in the holiday could be reproduced from the major media of public opinion for every year since the holiday was created.
Starting point is 00:36:50 To be sure, the use of the King holiday to legitimize the left's long march to America's institutions is not the only meaning attributed to it. At the time of its enactment by Congress, various rationales were offered by liberals and conservatives alike, that the holiday was merely a celebration of the personal virtues of a man of courage and vision, that it honored the national rejection of racial bigotry, and that it was a holiday for American blacks who, it was patronizingly said, needed their own hero, much as children in a restaurant need their own menu.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, he's not really a hero for blacks, as he though. He's a hero for whites. That's the whole point. Like, blacks don't care about MLK that much. They care about the other more radical figures and more. Yeah. But I think that's a great line just as a, just as a child in a restaurant needs your own menu.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yet these are not the presiding apologia for the holiday, nor were they at the time it was adopted, and the radical interpretation of Dr. King and his legacy is both the dominant as well as the more accurate version. The objective meaning of the King holiday, the actual meaning independent of what its sponsors thought they meant or what some of its celebrants think that they mean now, has little to do with the renunciation of cross-burnings and lynch parties
Starting point is 00:38:13 or even of less malevolent incarnations of Jim Crow. To be sure, a nation that honors Dr. King and his legacy, renounces such manifestations of racial inequality, but it also must renounce all forms of inequality, racial or other, because if all men are indeed equal, then it is absurd to say that only some forms of inequality are equal. If, as Dr. King understood it, the Declaration of Independence is a promissory note, not merely declarative of national independence, but also imperative of social reconstruction, then the de-litimis de-legitimis. of the traditional symbols, values, and institutions of America is not only in order, but also long overdue, and the radical reconstruction of American society is not only a legitimate goal, but also the principal legitimate goal of our national endeavors.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah, this is another problem. Americans are susceptible to where, I guess we read too much in literally to some of the founding documents like the Declaration of Independence. if you if you sort of worship these documents and treat them like their scripture which again sort of plays into this religious you know weakness that Americans can have for for this sort of trickery well you can get trapped in these these sort of tricks that King is pulling here where he's sort of a he's appealing to your sort of Anglo sensibilities the in with reference to the Declaration of Independence there I mean these things can't just be understood purely textually, they have to be understood
Starting point is 00:39:50 within the historical context of the men who produce them. And you have to understand that context in order to get what America actually is, or at least it was supposed to be. It's not just something that's written down on papers. Dr. King understood this well himself,
Starting point is 00:40:11 expressing it in the millennarian imagery he loved and used so effectively. I have a dream. that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places shall be made plains, and the crooked places shall be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together. I mean, that sounds great when you read it in his millenarian voice, like I mimicked earlier, but actually read what he's saying there.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I mean, this is what communism is or race communism. It sounds awful. It's every valley and hill leveled, everything, turned into one giant flat plane. I mean, that doesn't sound good to me. That's what, that's what communism is. It's literally, it's a leveling of everything. It's, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:40:59 It produces a completely boring world devoid of anything interesting at all. It's like, this is, this is literally the bug man. He's laying out a sort of religious statement of what a bug man is. Everyone's just going to live this singular boring life where no one is allowed to express difference, which is where everything interesting comes from. Dr. King, of course, seldom trouble to inquire into the sources of his dream, and today it occurs to no one to ask why his dreams should prevail over the less grandiose dreams of others. Like all charismatic prophets, he was the fount of his own authority, and his private visions
Starting point is 00:41:39 were intended to become law for lesser men. Among the several hills and mountains that await lowering by the new God and his gnostic bulldozers is the tradition common among white southerners of displaying the Confederate flag in places of honor. Some southern states, Alabama and South Carolina in particular, still fly the stars and bars over their state capitals, while the official flags of several other southern states retain its St. Andrew's cross-design in one way or another. The NAACP has recently decided that the flag must go and has given the project priority in its current legislative agenda and innumerable southern schools, already have been obliged to give up the flag as a symbol of their local football teams,
Starting point is 00:42:22 along with the playing of Dixie, calling the team the rebels and other traditional usages distinctive of Southern culture identity. I mean, could you imagine that, I mean, there were actually football teams that displayed the Dixie flag at the Southern flag at this time? Yeah, I can vaguely remember, you know, that sort of imagery from my childhood, but it was fading at that point. You know, this once again totally blows out the water,
Starting point is 00:42:53 the idea of the slippery slope being a fallacy because it isn't, you know, they're still, they came for the Mississippi state flag a few years ago, and they come for the flags, they come for the statues, they come for you. You know,
Starting point is 00:43:06 no one is protect from this. It's not going to stop at any point. It's not reasonable in any case to remove any of these symbols ever, period, simply because they demand it. Yep. All right. In Alabama, State Representative Thomas Reed threatened to tear down the flag over the statehouse if it were not removed. It wasn't, and Governor Guy Hunt had the local head of the NWACP arrested when he clambered over the fence with his merry band of icon smashers. Alabama Representative Alvin Holmes readily compares the Confederacy to Nazi Germany and instructs the people of the state, quote, they need to forget about the Confederacy. Earl Schenhoaster, head of the southeastern division of the NWACP, says of the flags, they're racist symbols.
Starting point is 00:43:55 These flags stand for racism, divisiveness, and oppression, and also for defiance and resistance to school segregation. Yeah, well, he just said the quiet part out loud there, more or less, you know, that's the Nuremberg moral paradigm. You know, if you're a right wing, that means you're a Nazi, and that's illegal. Yep. Columnist Carl Rowan, who seldom declines to dance to the NAACP's tune, compares the flag to the Nazi swastika and writes, quote, show me a guy who rides around with Confederate flags flying on his front fenders, and I'll show you someone who thinks the civil war still goes on. I'll give you a racist who thinks that it is only a matter of time before this nation makes white supremacy, its official policy, and returns to slavery with black people, the God-designated hewers of wood and draw of water. Mr. Rowan apparently has never had a dream
Starting point is 00:44:48 of a day when men would not be judged by the color of their front fenders. I mean, that's literally insane. I love this return to slavery thing. Who would ever even want to own slaves? Like, could you imagine how miserable that would be to, like, manage
Starting point is 00:45:05 slaves? I don't want them to make them like build your furniture. I mean, what? I don't want them near my property now. What the fuck? No, it's, it's so, I mean, slavery would have been out of the window civil war or not just because it's so horribly inefficient. Like the idea that white people like actually want to own slaves is crazy. I mean, even at the time, it was viewed as this unfortunate problem that, you know, we wish we could get rid of.
Starting point is 00:45:35 But the economy in the South was simply too tied to slave labor in order to easily just sort of untangle everything. But, I mean, there's there's virtually no experience. of the idea in America that like really we really want to own slaves like nobody wants that in fact like it's a good thing that at least given that the war between the states happen at least out of it slavery was actually eliminated you know that's that is that actual positive you know for all the bloodshed at least we got rid of this one thing that you know we really should never have had to begin with and nobody nobody wants to bring it back yeah nobody and nobody and It's just the problem was is they don't,
Starting point is 00:46:18 after they ended it, they didn't deal with the obvious issue that, you know, the elephant in the room. Seasider sent a super chat on YouTube, saluting us. Thank you. All right. Next.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But the fact that many Southerners and some non-Southerners regard the Confederate flag as a symbol of things other than racism, Southern cultural identity, sacrifice for a cause, and interpretation of the Constitution, or simply ancestral piety does not really help Mr. Shinhauster, Mr. Rowan, Mr. Reed, and Mr. Holmes all, and Mr. Holmes all are correct that the Confederate flag symbolizes a cause that was defeated in 1865 and which is not compatible with the worldview symbolized by Dr. King's holiday. If as a nation we are going to honor Dr. King as an official hero, then we cannot also continue to honor the Confederate flag and the political and cultural identity that is the main contents of its symbol. It is merely a matter of time before the Confederate flag is surrendered, along with local
Starting point is 00:47:21 statues of Confederate veterans and heroes, Dixie, and most other memorials of antebellum civilization. Their passing may not be a cause of mourning among many outside of the South, or many within the South for that matter, but the same logic that compels their abandonment reaches further. The three most prominent monuments in Washington, D.C. are those dedicated to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln. If there is a school child in the United States today who does not know that the first two were, is there a school child in the United States today who does not know that the first two were slave owners? Talking about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Is there any literate person in America who does not know that none of the three was a racial egalitarian, that every one of them uttered statements that made Jimmy, that make Jimmy the Greek sound like an ACLU lawyer? The same argument that drives Mr. Snyder from his low but honest trade and pulls down a banner commemorating the last stand of a desperate people will demolish the obelisk in temples that memorialized the major statesmen of the American nation. And we saw that happen. We're watching it happen now. Yeah. And then that quote earlier about the Civil War, you know, still going on. Well, is it not?
Starting point is 00:48:38 I mean, that's what MLK is just a continuation of, just a war against America itself. So, yeah, it is still going on. It's not white rebels doing it. It's the other side. And they're, you know, it's just pure vindictiveness on their part. Nor is it merely the physical symbols of the old America that are shattered. Last May, Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall proclaimed in a public speech that he could not find the wisdom foresight. and sense of justice exhibited by the framers of the U.S. Constitution, particularly profound.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Because they did not bow to the egalitarian and universalist idols in the shrines where Justice Marshall has worshipped all his life, and because they failed to include blacks and women in the Constitution. The document they drafted was defective from the start. No doubt it is just, what happened? It's like, how could this guy be a Supreme Court justice? I mean, you know, we have we have clowns in there today, at least 50. 50% of them are total clowns who have no business even being in that highest court. How can you be an effective and fair Supreme Court justice if you don't even believe in the Constitution itself as a document that you're supposed to dedicate yourself to?
Starting point is 00:50:01 I mean, we saw the latest Supreme Court judge didn't even know what was in the Constitution. and one question. So, yeah. No doubt it is astonishing that an associate justice of the Supreme Court could say that the fundamental law of the country, which it is his business and his duty to interpret, is inherently flawed, but the justice merely forces us up another rung on the latter. We forfeited the right to revere the Constitution, the governmental principles and mechanisms it established, and the men who wrote it when we put Dr. King into the pantheon.
Starting point is 00:50:33 The federalism, rule of law, states' rights, limits on. majority rule, checks and balances, and separation of powers that characterize the Constitution, all are incompatible with the full blossoming of the egalitarian democracy that Dr. King envisioned and which is the completion of the radical reconstruction to which his holiday commits us. Political symbols in the form of the Confederate flag, anthems such as Dixie and Maryland, and Maryland my Maryland, and the Constitution itself are not the only routes to be pulled up, however. Last year, the Reverend Jesse Jackson led a protest march at Stanford University in one of the more explicit demonstrations against the humanities curriculum at the school,
Starting point is 00:51:15 giving the chant, hey-ho, hey, hey, ho, Western cultures got to go. This year, the Faculty Senate of the University considered a proposal to abandon a required course on Western culture and to replace it with one entitled Culture, Ideas, and Values. The latter contained no core list of assigned readings, and the only requirement was that the professors include in their assignments works by women, minorities, and persons of color, and emphasized the last six to eight centuries in particular. One alternative course developed by Professor Claiborne Carson, director of the Martin Luther King Jr. Papers Project, required such texts as Black Elks Beeks, Ain't I a Woman, W.E. Du Bois, the Souls of Black Folk, Frant, Franz vannon, and those long-neglected third-world persons of color, Herbert Marcuse and Carl Marx. Whatever merits such writers might have over the ancient, medieval, and modern classics of the West, it should be clear that the alternative curriculum was intended as part of the radical reconstruction
Starting point is 00:52:22 of the American mind and the extirpation of the philosophical roots of Western predominance. The demand for the change at Stanford, according to news reports, was led by black, Hispanic, and Asian students who denounced the traditional curriculum as a year-long class in racism. Yeah, we still see that war chant used today in various contexts. It shows just how old their organization is, how long they've been doing this. I was also forced to read, you know, these works by women, minority. persons of color, whatever, you know, W.E. Dubois. You know, so this stuff did effectively replace any more traditional education you'd have in the Western canon. You know, most people, my age and younger, only read this modern trash now
Starting point is 00:53:13 and spend very little time actually in our own history. Of course, the idea is just to, you know, eliminate our own history. That's why we only look at the last six to eight centuries, as they said there. We don't even go that far back. I mean, it would be actually great if we covered anything that far back in most of what happens in, you know, public schools since the 90s and beyond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I mean, I actually took an African-American lit course in college as an elective and, you know, the stuff is just garbage. It's just, it's just garbage. It shouldn't, and no one should study it in any serious university, period.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I mean, even, I, I read the book Black Elk Speaks and all that is is the perpetuating the myth of the noble, you know, the noble Native American who, you know, was peaceful and never had any wars among themselves. And just total fucking bullshit. The point, of course, is not that the establishment of the King holiday makes the extirvation of the traditional symbols of American and Western civilization inevitable. Anti-American and anti-Western movements found that.
Starting point is 00:54:28 that on militant egalitarian universalism are powerful forces and would make gains regardless of the holiday. But that, once the United States, through its national government, chose to adopt Dr. King as an official hero, neither the American people nor their leaders have any legitimate grounds for resisting the logic and dynamic of such forces and the radical reconstruction of American society that is implicit in them. It is one thing to say that Dr. King was a great man and a great American, a man whose personal courage and vision, despite his human flaws and errors and enthusiasms, challenge lesser men of both races and force them to confront evils, falsehoods, and obsolete ways.
Starting point is 00:55:05 It is quite another to say, as the U.S. government does say in creating a legal public holiday for him, that Martin Luther King Jr. was the most important American who ever lived, at least the peer of George Washington, the father of his country, the only American in history to have his birthday made a national holiday, the man who is now first in the hearts of his countrymen. conservatives, some of whom like representatives Jack Kemp and Newt Gingrich voted for the King holiday in 1983,
Starting point is 00:55:33 may devise whatever clever rationales for supporting it they can imagine. But Mr. Harding's understanding of the meaning of King's holiday is far closer to the truth. In any case, aside from obligatory genuflections to the king by neo-conservatives, cultural conservatives, and the adherence to Mr. Gingrich's conservative opportunity society, I know of not a single serious sustained effort by those on the contemporary American right to substantiate their endorsement of the holiday or of any serious argument why conservatives should honor Dr. King at all. If there are valid reasons why we should do so, we do not hear them.
Starting point is 00:56:12 What do we hear are sermons from apostles such as Mr. Harding and company, most of whom can press a far more persuasive claim to Dr. King's legacy than conservatives of any description. Yeah, I mean, I saw some of this today. It's, uh, you see so-called conservatives or so-called right-winger's, you know, uttering the praises of Martin Luther King, you know, they'll say something negative about him too, but it's like, can't you just say nothing instead? Like, why even say, why even say anything positive about this guy?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Rejected completely. Um, he was total scum, terrible human being. Uh, we reject the idea that he deserves to have a holiday on the same level as the actual people who created this country for their um you know for their um children and yeah there's no reason to pay
Starting point is 00:57:02 lip service to it you don't win either way as we saw earlier um you know if you if you try to play house conservative you still lose so why why play the stupid game where you like you know do some sort of a mental gymnastics to figure out how you can like
Starting point is 00:57:18 espouse something positive about the guy because it's not going to be enough infuriating. Everyone who's watching, as I said earlier, if you want a super chat, I'll read it. You can make it as, you can write whatever you want. I may just alter it a little bit if it's a little more insane than something even I would say.
Starting point is 00:57:40 That legacy, as its keepers know, is profoundly at odds with the historic American order. And that is why they can have no rest until the symbols of that order are pulled up root and branch. to say that Dr. King and the cause he really represented is now part of the official American creed, indeed the defining and dominant symbol of that creed, which is what both houses of the United States Congress said in 1983, and what President Ronald Reagan signed into law shortly afterwards, is the beginning of a new order of the ages in which the symbols of the old order
Starting point is 00:58:10 and the things they symbolize can retain neither meaning nor respect, in which they are as mute and dark as the gods of Babylon and tire, and from whose cold ashes will rise a new god, leveling their rough places, straightening their crookedness, and exalting every valley until the whole earth is flattened beneath his feet and perceives the glory of the new lord. Yeah, one of the problems, too, I've been seeing is people will,
Starting point is 00:58:42 well, even at the time you saw that lady point out in that article, the school teacher that, you know, MOK was a communist or whatever, Obviously, that came with more weight at its time, but people will still say that, you know, the problem is that he's a communist or he's a Marxist. It's like, no, the problem with MLK isn't that he's a communist, is that he's a black supremacist who hates and wants to destroy whites and wants to take away everything that, you know, white people created America. And actually, well, you know, they succeeded at doing that pretty much. That's why he's bad. It's not because he's a freaking communist. I mean, that's not good either, but that's not why, you know, you should revile this person.
Starting point is 00:59:17 you should provide him specifically because of his racial politics. You know, that's not the redeeming factor that he was a communist, but he was like this gentle, you know, racial equality guy. Like that, that itself is the reason to hate him.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when you read this article and when you, especially that he's quoting so many people, when you see the quotes and the things that they're trying to accomplish, and then you finally, you look around today.
Starting point is 00:59:47 you're like, oh, they accomplished that. That's done. They won. Where do you go from there? I mean, it's, I mean, they won. Yeah, they did win. And yeah, it's like, this is what really, I hate the term woke. I hate all this crap where we supposed to like call our enemies Marxists or play into this stupid colorblind myth that, you know, this particular holiday
Starting point is 01:00:18 is all about like no that is the problem it's not that the left or radical Marxist or something stupid like that or postmodernist it's like it's it's that they are racial supremacists who hate white people they want to destroy and take away everything from white people the only sense in which there are communists is that they're their race communists and that's the whole problem that's not the redeeming factor you know i just get so tired of this you know i have to say i mean we are getting some pretty good wins the last couple of the last year you know even watching devon stacks uh video on the uh the tunnels in new york he even sort of expressed some white-pilled sentiments which was pretty surprising considering his channel was named blackpilled but you know it's it's like
Starting point is 01:01:06 you still have this tendency on the rate that we have to just smash like that's the enemy right the enemy is the center right you know Rufo is putting himself out today as this sort of figure I mean these sentiments where you pay any lip service to the idols has to be just totally crushed and shamed out of existence
Starting point is 01:01:27 because the only way to get the power within our faction is to destroy the direct competitor you know which is the people just to your left right it's kind of like the opposite of the way the left works is like there's no enemies to the left.
Starting point is 01:01:44 All enemies are to the right. For us, all enemies are to the left. And if you're one of these like center right dorks who's just like, oh, it's the woke and the Marxist and we love racial equality, even though that's not what it means. Like, you're the bad guy, right? You're doing more
Starting point is 01:02:02 than the radicals ever could do to actually reinforce the regime that actually crushes you. Yeah, Rufo said today that to attack MLK is short- We measure our great statesmen by their accomplishments within the tragic conditions of history and human nature. Oh, so do we don't, do we measure great statesmen on the conditions in Weimar in the 1920s? No, no, let's not talk about that.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Whether it's founders or Dr. King, a certain degree of idealization is necessary for creating a coherent national narrative. necessary. It's necessary to idealize Martin Luther King. Are you kidding me? I mean, I agree that a certain level of idealization is needed for a coherent national narrative. But if your identity is going to be associated with Dr. King, it is completely at odds with that of the founders, which you put, which you put right before him. Right. He's doing this game where he's, you know, he's reinforcing what the holiday is, is where Martin Luther, King as a, what do they call it, a late arriving founder? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Then he says after that, the correct reaction to the left's noxious ideology is not to say we need radicalism on the right. It is to say we recognize the realities of race, but aspire to a higher standard, the full expression of natural rights that subordinates racial faction to the best of our nation. Yeah, I would just recommend on this point go read the distributors. substack from the other day, which sort of addresses this idea of the purpose of what a system is what it
Starting point is 01:03:48 does, and it gets into this idea of meritocracy and what it really means. I think he totally blows this take out of the water in an indirect fashion. That's probably the best essay of the year so far. It's only been 15 days, but in terms of what I've seen
Starting point is 01:04:04 produced this year, I think the distributist essay is a must read. It's like the latest on the substack. I forget what the title is. We do have a super chat here. Tony offshore said, can you guys elaborate on Stanley Levinson and who his backers were? I will tell you what I know about Stanley Levinson. Outside of the obvious, he was a radical.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I mean, he aided in the defense of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, which they were communists and they were traitors. He was the treasurer, the American Jewish Congress. this is all stuff on it. You can find out on his Wikipedia. I mean, he, he's basically one of the, one of the create,
Starting point is 01:04:51 he basically helped create the civil rights movement in the United States, working with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, who was more than happy to help them. So, yeah, I mean, it was, you want me to say it? I'll say it. It was Jewish money that backed the civil rights, the civil rights movement, the civil rights movement.
Starting point is 01:05:11 movement was distinctly Jewish. The heart, what was his first name? I can't even remember. Something really Jewish from the Hart. Oh, no, seller from the Hart Cellar Act, Jewish. And he basically wrote the Civil Rights Act. He wrote the Immigration Act, which is basically destroyed the country as far as immigration goes for the last, you know, since 1965, 50, almost 60 years.
Starting point is 01:05:41 So, yeah, I mean, this is a, it is what it is. It's what we say it is. And as Zeman said in his podcast, there's great podcast from this past Friday. He said the problem with the right is they always ask how and they never ask who. If you're not asking who, what's the point of knowing the how? Well, they can't ask who because that starts to get into, oh, scary, identity and politics. Like, that's bad.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I really hate this concept that having, like, collective group politics is somehow bad. It's the most asinine way of looking at the world ever. And it's frankly born from a serious hubris as if, like, oh, you're an individual. You don't need anybody else. You could just be an individual and not, you know, you don't actually need any similar people around you to help. you, you're totally independent. It's this sort of like libertarian-esque attitude that some Americans tend to take, but that's retarded, frankly. You're not an individual. You are part of a group whether you want to be, you're not. And you depend on these systems and other people
Starting point is 01:06:57 to keep your life going. You know, like me, like I'm quote unquote off grid, right? But I still need gasoline from complex systems and refineries. You know, I'd need complex electrical systems, all kinds of stuff. I'm never, you can never be some like truly independent, you know, man on your own. So rejecting quote unquote, identitarianism as this bad, weak thing is completely asked backwards. It's not a weakness. It's actually a strength to recognize that actually, no, you can't just stand on your own and you do need to depend on other people, right? It's overcoming your own hubris to do that. It's not weakness to feel these, you know, the belonging to some particular identity that way. People call it like, you know, it's like, you know, it's
Starting point is 01:07:42 like you're prideful. It's like, no, you're not prideful. The pride is imagining that you yourself are this self-contained unit who can get by without anyone else that you're going to depend on as part of this larger group. That's what pride actually is. It's self-pride. Anyway. So, son of Haster, super chat on YouTube, thank you very much, says, finally caught a stream live. It was cathartic to hear Charlie talking about how much he hates the term woke. There's a lot there's a lot there. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing with like the term dissident, right? I've always hated that term as well. Mostly it's used as a slur, but what, yeah, again, woke, it's just a horrible term.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The only context in which you should use it as when there's, there's no viable alternatives, you know, at least put scare quotes around it if you're going to use it. It just totally fails to, what woke does is this new speak that hides this entire history that we just went through and pretends like the woke is some new phenomenon that just sort of came out of nowhere in response to President Trump, which is total nonsense. Cato Man 55, another super chat over an entropy. Thank you so much. He says, Rufo is a subversive person paid by Zionist Paul Singer, whose other causes are
Starting point is 01:09:02 pro-immigration and LGBTQ. He asked the question, is this quote-unquote, based or is it neocon 2.0? What is the question again? Yeah I'm Cato Man I love you I don't understand the question he says I can quite get it Rufo's subversive paid by Zionist Paul Singer whose other causes are pro immigration and LGBTQ is this and he puts in quotes based I'm thinking he's saying based in a negative way I just don't understand what the negative way he's saying it is in or is it neocon 2.0 well for the reason the term neocon is getting thrown around a lot lately
Starting point is 01:09:47 I don't I don't because no one wants to say because people don't want to say Joe yeah fair enough yeah it's it's not neocon it's it's definitely not based I mean yeah it's like Rufo seems to be doing this thing where he's like oh yeah I scout Claudine Gay or whatever but it's like I don't care how many you know black ladies you get fired I'm not gonna listen to your Zio takes basically like you're not you're not gonna become some right wing hero because because you did that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Like, you know, I was great. I thought that was, you know, cool to do, frankly. I know some people are like, oh, well, the Js are just coming and now. It's like, yeah, okay, whatever. I mean, it's nice to sort of break their aura of invincibility, you know, even if they just sort of play this like two-step where they swap in another person. But, you know, it's, you're not going to become sort of a hero we all listen to just because you sort of orchestrated that.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah. El Cid Leone on Superchat on YouTube. Thank you. The quote unquote white man's burden is destroying the world that nuns have the tools to violate the planet and are multiplying quickly. Something must be done when we have power. Lincola and others warns this. I think El Cid Leon is English is not his first language. And thank you for learning how to speak other.
Starting point is 01:11:10 have him be able to speak more than one language because I don't. But the white man's burden is saying is destroying the world. These nuns have tools to violate the planet and are multiplying quickly. Something must be done when we have power. So yeah, I mean, he's basically saying, I think the quote, he's quoting white man's burden, he may be talking about another group who claims to be white. I mean, that's the white man's burden right now is to overcome this. this self-destructive impulse to go around elevating everyone else on the planet,
Starting point is 01:11:45 even if it means, you know, exporting all of our industry and bringing the third world into Europe and America. That's the burden, apparently, is we're just obsessed with this idea of elevating the planet. Yeah. John Morton, five British pounds on YouTube. Thanks, mate. Did blacks in general actually want desegregation or did they want more stuff for black people? I would answer that they wanted neither.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I think this was foisted upon them. Yeah, the civil rights is not some sort of movement. It's just, you know, the will of the people in power being enforced. You know, like you said, most blacks, like, you know, most white people are just more or less apolitical. And this ideology has been forced on them just as the same. It's been forced on white people. when the reality was, you know, things were moving along well enough for everybody. And there was no real organic, you know, mass civil rights movement.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I don't like the term movement, what even referencing this thing, because it implies some sort of populist dimension to it, which there really wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, El Cid says, he says, I was forced to compact. I ran out of letters. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for another super chat there.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I've talked to old blacks here in South Carolina. They didn't support desegregation. I think it was Justin. Justin Lander saying that. Oh, what it did is it ripped up their communities because, you know, they were brought at gunpoint on both ends to white schools and white areas and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Like you're forcing them also to break up their, you know, community bonds and just go get thrown into these other places. don't belong in. Wing T. Prad with like a penny super chat over on Odyssey says if dissident right isn't a good term
Starting point is 01:13:55 what does Charlemagne propose, I use Westman. I don't know, man. Like, dissident right has become a slur. I don't feel the need for a term. I kind of use sensible centrist and a tongue cheek way. I like BAP's faction of truth idea, but do we even need some
Starting point is 01:14:17 sort of like faction label like it's a video game or something? I don't really, I don't really care what you're called. Would people call me about like grouping myself in some Broadway? Like I can pretty easily identify my friends and enemies without any sort of label.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I think the labels are they just become slurs as dissident right has. Yeah, I like what Thomas says. He says, we're not Jehovah's witnesses we're looking for a vanguard. Yeah. We're a vanguard movement. And, you know, I think a lot of people don't understand what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I hesitate to explain it because of the implications. But, you know, it's something I think people should look up. Yeah, because it's exactly what it is. And I love that he says, you know, we're not Jovis witnesses because it just immediately destroys democracy. Even libertarians are like, libertarians like, well,
Starting point is 01:15:13 you know, we just need to get more people woken up. I'm like, okay, so then you believe in democracy. You believe that if you get enough people to believe what you believe, you can,
Starting point is 01:15:22 no, that's not the way it works. Yeah, and I stopped caring about convincing people or debating or arguing. I mean, debates are good. Don't get me wrong. But I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:31 like, in terms of like trying to red pill people a long time ago, like, I just don't care. I don't, I don't care how many people I, like, wake up or something.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I just sort of, Put out the content or whatever that I feel needs to be set at the time for the people who are already sort of like Part of this thing of ours rate and if you're not you know you're welcome to come in but I'm not really out to like Propagandize and you know try and like turn turn this thing into a mass movement or something I'm just you know You know I'm just interested I'm interested in History truth or you know these sort of things is the kind of content I make if you're interested and you sort of you know vibe with what we're doing doing it's yeah you know that's that's great and if not well whatever man you know like i'm not out
Starting point is 01:16:17 to form some sort of like big political faction or something yeah i mean right now we're not at the point we're nowhere near the point where we need to be you know so it's like i'm just i guess more than anything i'm trying to tell people just get your personal shit together you know get your personal life together buy land pay get out of debt um get your home. Getting out of debt can't really be overstated. Like, I'm not at that point yet,
Starting point is 01:16:47 but, you know, I will be eventually, if everything continues right, it'll still be well, obviously, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:54 do just don't take on debt. And if you have debt, your priority should just be paying it off. Once, once you actually live debt-free and you don't owe constant, you know, large sums of money to a bank or whatever, it's like,
Starting point is 01:17:07 that will just liberate you to such a huge degree. Um, because you, you just gain the freedom to sort of not care anymore and not sort of have to enslave yourself to these systems to, to get by. Because you can actually, you know, if you actually own your property and everything, uh, you can get by on actually very little money. And it becomes actually like viable to do what you're doing, for example, where you're, you just, I mean, I think you're just like full time stream at this point, right? Yeah. Like if you, if you want to do that, that's how you do it as you get rid of your debt. Yeah. I mean, I'm not completely out of debt.
Starting point is 01:17:41 But like when we moved here, I had to buy a mower and I didn't want to buy a use one. So I bought one new. But I got it. If I paid it off in six months, no interest. And I mean, that was like, I mean, I was, I stressed over it. It's like, I got to get this thing paid off. I got to get this until. And then when I made the final payment, you know, in five months, you know, four
Starting point is 01:17:59 and a half months, five months. I was just like, great, great. Now I only, I mean, really, I only have both of the cars are paid for everything. It's just a house at this point. And that's it. And having, having like a decent size property. not in a suburb as well is really good because what you can do is, okay, yeah, maybe you can have very small home and no debt, but what you can do is you can build up something larger
Starting point is 01:18:22 over time without having to take on, you know, additional loans for it. So yeah, I'm a, I mean, that's, this is also what I did, right? But I'm a, I think it's a good idea to, to get a large foundation first and work from that the correct way rather than trying to, you know, buy your giant house on a small piece of property because then then you're just stuck there too right and the only solution to expansion is okay well now I guess I got to go in a debt to buy a bigger house whereas if you had started with your foundation you know you can build within your means yeah now that's a you're 100% right it's just um what I have now is uh what I have now is perfect and the people I have surrounding me in real life who I can rely upon for for things that if I had a bigger property
Starting point is 01:19:12 I could deal with. I have people around me that I can rely upon for things and they can rely upon me for things. So I've already been here less than a year and already made some really, really good, really good contacts in real life. So yeah. All right. That's it, man.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Let's get out of here. What do you want to promote? except all the Lori Club. Oh, well, that's a good question these days. I guess you can always check up my blog, Neo Reactor. I do try to do book reviews there. I am working on one right now. I mean, this is my paid content.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I've been reading a few books on mid-century Germany, and none of them have quite done it for me into being able to produce a post, but I'm trying to come up with a combination post. I'm reading an interesting book right now called This is Germany by, Anglo written in 1938. That's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Check out my YouTube channel, Charlemagne, for mostly coverage of the Ukraine conflict these days. And I guess in terms of Old Glory Club, we're going to be doing true detective reviews in the coming weeks. So I think people find that fascinating. So definitely, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:22 buy a subscription to check out that content. I'm doing, on my substack, I'm making every attempt to do three a week, two of them public, one private and the one private one private a week I started a series last week basically on things that I've been reading that have been written by Jewish authors and philosophers trying to understand the psychology behind their thinking.
Starting point is 01:20:54 So I started last week with how they, when one Jew is attacked, every Jew is attacked. That's the way they look at it. I think 10-7 proved that pretty much that they all come together. But, you know, if one is a torturer, like if one is Yegota in the Soviet Union, he has to be judged as an individual. And I've just taken to looking at, I'm reading right now Israel Shahawks, re-reading Jewish Jewish history, Jewish religion the weight of 3,000 years. And there's so much in there.
Starting point is 01:21:34 There's so much in there that people don't know that even, I think even most Jews don't know, that I'm going to start tearing that apart. So, all right. Dawn threw a super chat at the last minute there. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. She says good luck with that, Pete, with big, with eyes wide emoji. But thank you, everyone, for tuning in. I appreciate it. And for myself and for Charlie, take care.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Have a good day.

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