The Pete Quiñones Show - Where is the Real Right-Wing? w/ Pete, Thomas777 and Stormy Waters on Astral Flight Simulation

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

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Today I have three guests. I've never had a roundtable panel like this, but I hope we get several more going, and I'm honored to be joined with Thomas 7 and Pete Kinones. I also have my sort of co-host, I think of him as like a co-host, even though he's only been on here one time. Storming Waters. Me and him have been cooking up quite a lot of content for the near future. And we've been having some discussions on, you know, what does the Trump presidency mean for the right wing? Where's the right wing at now? And where are we going to go? What are we going to do? What is it going to look like? How is it going to change? But also, where has it been? Where is it coming? from. So we're trying to work out a series of roundtable discussions like this, and we decided that the perfect person to start this all off with would be Thomas Triple Seven. So I'm honored and proud and glad to have you here, Thomas, Pete, as well. Thank you guys both for coming on. Say hello.

Oh, yeah, thanks for hosting the union. Yeah, thanks, man. Thanks for the invite. Likewise, happy to be here. I was telling Pete, I've been following his content for quite a long time. It feels like we're on the same trajectory. And actually, today's episode was inspired by a conversation that Thomas and Peter had. They've been having a series of conversations on Peter's platforms, YouTube's where I catch it. And, you know, there's a lot of food for thought there. There's a lot of fodder for discussion.

And I caught something Thomas said once that, Thomas, I don't know if you've elaborated on this elsewhere, but in the episode on Yaki that you did with Pete, you guys talked about Spengler and Yaki a lot. you said something to the effect of there hasn't really been a right wing since 1945. And not only did you say that, but you said something like there can't be a right wing since 1945. But in that episode in particular, you didn't elaborate on that. But I'm not sure what you mean by that. But I think that's a really good place to start this conversation we want to have here.

Yeah. I mean, that's a subject to the manuscript I'm working on now. There's a couple of things. I mean, there's a couple of things that underlie that. Okay. Like, first and foremost, the Roosevelt administration, it was as revolutionary as the Third Reich and as the Soviet Union, like the government that, you know, conquered the political structure of the Soviet Union.

I mean, yeah, it wasn't revolutionary in a sense that there was some sort of violent overthrow of the extant order or something, but it was a total restructuring of government. Okay. And what came within the purview of federal mandate, what was considered appropriate, you know, ethically, philosophically, practically, in terms of, you know,

federal authority, this represented a total kind of change in perspective. Okay. You know, like the regime you would wonder today. It's not like the legacy government of George Washington or something. Okay, it's, it's the New Deal regime. I mean, there's been changes do it, you know, like the Reagan administration deregulated a whole bunch of things. You know, and the financialization of the economy, I mean, obviously, that changes things, but the core of it, and it's most importantly for purposes of this discussion, and we just asked me, the core of it, it's ethical rationale, it's kind of civic narrative.

its political theology like that that is a hundred percent derivative of the New Deal revolution now what the American right wing was after the war between the states you know

despite Wilson being held out as this big liberal like he wasn't in the contemporary sense he was a segregationist he had a lot of love for lost cause historians it was Wilson that commissioned all these Confederate monuments because it shall be foot called the agreement, you know, in the decades

every work in the States was we honor each other's war dead and like we recognize like the valor and honor of each other's you know, politics and and fallen servicemen, you know, and

Wilson's, Wilsonian, like, nationalism. Like, yeah, I mean, that's, that's very much like a post, a post-1789 kind of conservatism, which is a cellist. like liberal in absolute terms, but you know, it wasn't like progressive and

in terms like the social engineering regime that we think of it. So you basically had, even like the American left, like other than true radicals, was fairly conservative and fairly right wing in absolute terms. Like the American right was exemplified

by guys like Charles Lindberg, like Father Cochlin, like Robert Taft. It was, they believed in Hamiltonian protection. like high protectionism, national economics. They were basically white nationalists. You know, not in some like

hardest fuck away, but, you know, they believed that immigration had to be restricted according to the national origins principle. You know, they were opposed to, outside of the Monroe Doctrine's parameters, they were opposed to foreign intervention. You know, it was like the Republicans

became like the America first party. Okay. Now, Roosevelt's whole Roosevelt's whole interest in the Second World War and more probably more relevant like the ideologues within his administration

like a lot of people look at Roosevelt is just some like big liberal and all but his administration was also compromised by Stalinist or something that's not the way that's true but that's not the way to look at it it was animated by this whole ideology of anti-fascism which I called

Godfrey points out, that's an ideology into itself, okay? Like, now make no mistake. Like, the U.S. government, like, profited tremendously from World War II. I'm talking, like, long term. Like, war itself is bad for business. That's why economic rationales for war are

stupid. That's not why wars happen. It don't happen so people can make money. But in absolute terms, I mean, America became a superpower because it destroyed Europe and Japan. You know, it wasn't, America's, Roosevelt's war wasn't like Churchill's war. It wasn't, like, the suicide. like incomprehensibly irrational

mission that that was undertaken because like Roosevelt was some degenerate or because he was just compromised. So I mean there was like a strategic logic to it if you can extricate any ethical judgments of you know historical nature. You know like um but uh you know the whole the animating principle of it was basically Roosevelt and his people they looked at the future as

we can annihilate any kind of, you know, what they viewed as like retrograde, you know, adivism, which, which manifested in terms like identity and politics. You know, we can divide the world up between the United States and the Soviet Union and this kind of like peaceful concord where there's like two spheres of influence. But ultimately, you know, there's not, there's not enmity between the two systems. You know, they kind of like evolve along with one another. they viewed they viewed fascism as basically a way to try and preserve

outmoded concepts of a human condition I mean it's more complicated than that and both more simple I mean depending on who we're talking about but that that was the entire ideology that underlay it okay and the way that this was enshrined after when the dust settled and Europe was in ruins and Japan had been subjected to a nuclear assault and 50 million human beings were dead was, well, you know, some sort of formal order had to be instituted beyond simply the kind of whims of Moscow and Washington. So the preceding system, which was the Westphalian system, which had basically endured since 1648, which was, you know, there's an equality of status between states where moral consensus reigns.

you know, mainly, mainly Europe plus America, the Russian Empire, related to the Soviet Union, and then Japan, you know, there's certain parameters within which war must be waived, but it's a legitimate policy instrument. It arrives like the seasons. It's just, you know, the reality of power politics. The International War Crimes Tribunal declared that was all illegitimate. It said, World War II happened because there was a conspiracy, a criminal conspiracy of in Tokyo and Berlin.

And they were bent on world domination. And everything they did incident to, you know, the kind of daily function of government was Taylor do annihilate categorically populations they viewed as inferiors or ops and to dominate the planet. So this can never happen again. So, you know, Moscow and Washington with the UK as kind of junior partner, we're declaring ourselves to be the representatives of planetary humanity. and anybody who takes on these sort of fascist ambitions,

they're a criminal. That is illegal, and they're going to be targeted for destruction. Okay? That's literally what became international law. So you can't be right-wing after there was, you know, two superpowers plus what remains the United Kingdom just declared, if you agree with these guys, he wasn't a communist, just annihilated,

you're a criminal and you're slated for destruction. I mean, they literally just declared it, illegal to be right wing and declared not only is it illegal but if you take on these imperatives you're an enemy of all of humanity on this planet they unpersoned you okay so what happened in america was it's like okay after Roosevelt died and the new deal kind of started to lose its mandate it's like well what are we you know the question was kind of answered like Truman was an interesting president and I actually think he was like a pretty good president and the bound irrationality of, you know, the backstage strategic situation.

But Truman wasn't any kind of new dealer, okay? And what the American right was, it had been Taft. And interestingly, if you read Kennedy's profiles and courage, it includes this kind of almost eulogy to Robert Taft. Like, you know, Robert Taft was a brave guy because he was wrong all the time, but he, you know, he fought a good fight. Like, that was basically saying, like, it's no longer acceptable to think this way,

so it's safe to kind of praise, like, what was the right wing. I mean, we're getting a little head of ourselves. I think that's important. But in any event, so post-1947, you know, you have Eisenhower, who's basically,

Eisenhower was, like, some sort of, like, military emperor. He, like, wasn't really political, okay? Then it's, like, well, what is the American right? Oh, it must be buried Goldwater. he's like this proto-libertarian gadfly he wants to abolish the IRS and I mean he was like a terrible

candidate but the way to interpret that is not just because he was propped up as some kind of stiff who was supposed to lose I mean that was probably part of it but it's like the American right like didn't know what it was you know so

then you get Mr. Nixon and like Nixon himself he wasn't any kind of it's not like Nixon was some kind of like extremist right-wing or it's not like Nixon was even trying to rule as an imperial executive by by executive order

without regard to you know this separation of powers or something but what began happening in America was you had LBJ who totally defected you know from the Dixie Crat

element and for context like the South always sent Democrats to Washington but they weren't like northern liberals. Like they're these Jeffersonian tight. They were basically Jeffersonian white nationalists. You know, there were guys who were like Reconstruction will never happen again.

And there was, they would rather have died than like voted on a Republican ticket. That's the party of Lincoln. It's the party reconstruction. But then the Dixie Crabs got Merced by Johnson going like 110% in on forced integration. So you get George Wallace, who runs this like insurgent campaign of like America first you know um white nationalism but not by

like edict you know basically like restoration of free association rights and end to forced integration you know and end of the Vietnam War and Wallace was carrying the solid south you know like in the polls and stuff then in the north you had a bunch of ethnic white guys who were like in to Bobby Kennedy. Even though Kennedy was kind of a crazy liberal, like a lot of like work in class, like Italian and Irish dudes and stuff, like, identified with

them because they thought he was like a real man. He like stood up to mob guys. He was, you know, one of them. Like Bobby Kennedy gets whacked and suddenly like all those guys start like backing Wallace. So like his Wallace rallies start happening and it's a bunch of like Peckerwood redneck guys

but it's a bunch of like South Boston guys and like Brooklyn Italian guys and like Slavic guys. so you get so what's developing is like this like mass coalition of like white dudes from like across like sectarian lines across like ethnic lines across regional lines and this thing started becoming huge so like Nixon basically at the behest of guys like Pat Buchanan and like Halderman he basically like takes on like that platform with some qualifications so the Nixon coalition is basically like the solid south like northern white ethnics and like adjacent like non-white people who like hate liberals you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you even before you you drive the new cooper plug-in hybrid range for mentor leon and terramar now with flexible pcp finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2000 euro search cooper and a

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last month they released in Chronicles Magazine like a great takedown of Watergate and how it's exactly like what they did to Trump or tried to do because when this coalition when this when this kind of like super coalition of you know like white Christians

like ossifies and like goes into revolt like the deep state like utterly like loses its fucking mind you know and they don't know what to do okay and that's basically what

underlies these I mean I mean the people the individual people people like go berserk about Trump, like they're just complete idiots and like NPCs like aren't in the game. I think like Trump's going to take away like they're gay porn or something, but I don't know if they're pee on their corn flakes. But like in terms of the people at policy level and the people are like orchestrating law there against them, what's in their mind is, oh, Trump's a fascist because look at the people who support him. It doesn't really

to do it like Trump the guy. Like Trump the guy, I don't think it's pretty political. I mean, I like Trump personally. But, you know, It's not like Trump is some, it's not like Trump is some like guy like George Wallace. It's not like he's some, like, guy like me, even. I mean, not that I'm so smart, but he doesn't, like, you know, hold the kind of opinions I do.

You know, he's not even really like a guy like Paul Gawfried. You know, Trump's like a, he's like a normal New Yorker in like his 70s. Like, if you're like a white dude from New York in your 70s, like how else would you think? But the coalition around him is a right-wing coalition in, like, a purest sense. And that's illegal.

It's illegal. It's unacceptable. the regime of Lugender is literally structured in every sense to oppose that tendency and like annihilated with military means if it emerges as a

strategic challenge and to basically like criminalize it domestically but like what do you do when 70 million people like ossify around that tendency? You can't just be like those 70 million people are all bad people. Like you can't do that and have any credibility or any mandate. Like people just like laugh at you.

you and like the police need to enforce your shit to be like I'm not doing that you know I mean so this so this is a problem but that if I understood the question and forgive me for like going on a monologue like that that's what I mean okay like philosophically yeah there's complexities but if I get into all those

will be here all night but that that's what I mean when I say like there is there is it's people like us but it's not like represented and it's not it's not Mitt Romney it's not you know um it's not Fox News. It's not some random Republican pack that's

like anti-abortion and wants low taxes. I'm not even, I'm not saying it was like bad things or anything. If like, you know, like honest, obviously. But that's not what we're talking about. And that that's not like right wing in the sense that we need. It's only viewed that way because you live in like erratically

like left-wing political culture. So like anything like remotely like outside the norm or like normal is like considered like, oh, it's like extremist, you know, because like you literally have this like social engineering regime that's promised on this like rabid

anti-fascist ideology that's both like outmoded and outdated. And it's, it's like raise on vitro is like trying to basically like eradicate people's ability to live historically, you know, so as to like make people more malibol to this kind of you know, this kind of rule by government. You know, kind of in every aspect of

of social existence. It's like ridiculous. It's like nobody, aside the evil of that inherently, nobody thinks that way anymore. That's like, that's like 60 years out of date. But yeah,

that's what I got in terms of, in terms of the question, uh, it's, no, that's great. And it's been about an 80 year span since, uh,

45. And the time you're talking about played out over almost 80 years at this point. And we can say that it's pretty much been a long, slow or gradual, maybe gradual, I guess it's rapid in terms of historic timelines, but watering down of the right wing, deracination of the right wing, and sort of even expulsion of the right wing from institutional politics. So like the guys you're talking about Nixon and Wallace in particular, like these were like, you know, mainstream politicians. One of them was the president of the United States. And these guys represented a whole swathes of the

population who were on board with their politics. But now there's really nobody in office that I really think for my entire lifetime, definitely my adult lifetime, since I've been paying attention to politics for about 25 years, who can hold a candle to those guys. But popular movements, organizations, coalitions, things like that, those two have been greatly watered down. But even if they're individual. politics are maybe the same, which I don't think they are, but even if you could say that they are, they have definitely been declawed. And Trump brought this resurgence. I would like to talk to you about the resurgence that happened 2014, 15, 16 with the first Trump election. But I don't want to start

there. I want to back up to the time period that you were talking about because you were talking about politicians and institutions and their support with the populace. But at the the same time, like, we're just individuals here and we have some semblance of a movement, I guess, if you want to say that, we have some groups, some coalitions. And we come out of this tradition that I feel there's been a huge break from. There's been a huge break from the right wing in, well, the 50s of America, but also there's been a big break from like some of the German thinkers and the Italian thinkers who are all starting to come back now.

They're all start, you know, you hear these names thrown around, Carl Schmidt, Spang, Ebola, but I really want to focus on Americans just because we have limited time here. And I'm thinking in particular, like the John Birch Society, George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party, and of course, your guy, Francis Parker, Yaki, who I don't know of him being associated with any group or coalition or organization. I know I've read the Birchers talking very favorably about him, but I've heard others, Rockwell and and others really kind of rejected him over the, you know, course of his life and the decisions he was making politically.

So I'd like to, if you can, if you'd like to, maybe sort of give the same rundown of those, you know, popular movements, intellectual movements, coalitions, how they existed then. I don't know if you were including those in your characterization of there can't be a right wing anymore. but obviously the right wing now is demonized the John Birchers they deserve their own episode on how they got taken down I mean I think the Burchards were fucking idiots but I mean like I those three elements you're talking about like the ANP

the Bertures and Yaki they were all in like a totally different tip oh yeah from each other you mean yeah right no I agree yeah no I wasn't saying you were suggesting otherwise but that's important to that's important to characterize But I'm comparing their politics to our politics now. Oh, no, I understand. Okay.

The, uh, the Berkshire is basically, I mean, it became, as the Cold War set in, like, in earnest, and I mean, like, especially, like, when Korea jumped off. There's a good intellectual biography of McCarthy. I can't remember who wrote it, but it drops not long ago. You know, despite what people claim, you know, like I said a moment ago, I don't think this is, paramount to understanding the trajectory of the ideological trajectory of the regime post 933 but there were over this is what's documented there were over 200

Soviet agents that infiltrated the rules of administration it's ridiculous okay so McCarthy he started identifying these people he's like okay we're in a state of war in all but name with the Soviet Union

and you're saying it's okay to be on record as a communist I mean it'd be like I mean, during World War II, like if you were like a card carrying member of the Boone or the Silver Shirts, if you were like a registered Asian or the Third Reich, would they just be like, oh, that's okay. Like, you're tipping at windmills

if you say this is bad. So it's like, there's like this kind of ridiculous fantasy suggested that, like, as if like the Soviet Union was imaginary or like it didn't, or like the colder wasn't actually happening and McCarthy was some crazy man, like picking on eccentric people or something.

I mean, what brought McCarthy down is Roy Cohn, and Roy Cohn either his boyfriend or some guy who he wanted to get close to this guy David Shine like Cohn started trying to pull sort of trying to flex on the US Army to get

shine out of the military draft so the Army is basically like why he's so interested in this guy and then I started digging into Cone O'Cone was very very gay okay so it's like okay McCarthy like your guy hear your

counselor record, like he's trying to flex on the army to get his like boy toys like out of their obligations. That's what brought down the car if he wasn't he was indecent and picking on patriotic Americans because of imaginary communists. It's because Roy Cohn basically couldn't control his

his baser desires. But Yaki Yaki wasn't Yaki looked, Yaki's old point first last and always was okay after 9033 America is the mortal enemy of Europe

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He absolutely was running around the East Block and nobody can explain why. When he was incarcerated in San Francisco, Willis Cardo went to meet with him. And he asked about George Lincoln Rockwell. Yaki said, I have no idea who that is. And he didn't. Because Rockwell was some like vaudeville crank. He was some vaudeville crank telling inward jokes and

dressing up as some like, TV wrestling villain or something. Like, he was a jagoff. You know, like, I, when I was talking to R.N. Taylor, a few months back was interesting. You know, like, I was at his house. Like, his wife had us for dinner.

It was great. But he's, like, his take down was, like, well, he's like, Rockwell thought he was John Wayne. Okay. And Taylor knew the guy. He's like, he thought he was John Wayne. He's like, the man was physically tough. Even, like, in his, in his 50s,

or, like, late 40s or whatever. You know, he definitely was not a coward. I he definitely was like believed in like white nationalism but like calling yourself a quote Nazi and holding up signs saying you know I support Uncle Edolph's gas cure like you're a fucking idiot's like yeah I mean I we make jokes and stuff too and I'm not I I'm gonna live in a fucking Chicago man like it's not like I

recoil in bad language but that's just like moron you know and um and he knew it was that was the whole point whole point was like be a fucking moron and like and it made people mad. You know, Yaqui was a real national socialist. And like, Yaki, Otto Riemer,

these guys who were like, these guys who had fought for the Reich, they basically agreed with Yaki. You know, and Yaki's notion was like, look, you know, like, Stalinism is a tyranny. Our people are suffering under it.

Half of Europe is imprisoned by it. But the Stalinists aren't like socially engineering Europe out of existence. and America is. You know, so it's like, would you rather like have a policeman, like, having his foot on your back? Would you rather be being, like, racially annihilated?

And beyond the practical, Yaiso point was like, look, like, if the Russians win the Cold War, he's like, first of all, they need us. They need Europe, like, intact for its techniques, for its mentioned material, for all

of that. You know, and he's like, again, too, he's like eventually, you know, even if Soviet domination is perennial, like, if anything, they're going to become like us, not like us like them. You know, a lot of like the Russians, like Putin was an outlier because he was KGB. I think KGB and G are you guys, these Russian guys and occupied East Germany. Most of them didn't even speak German and they didn't want to. Like it's like there was like this kind of, there was like this quarantine between like the occupier

and like you weren't supposed to fraternize with them. You weren't supposed to take on their habits. It was almost like deliberate that the Soviets, yeah, they'd crush your clergy. They'd arrest you having a typewriter. But they're not going to say, like, you're not German anymore. You're just a citizen of this planet. We're going to report African immigrants to tell your daughter to marry one. That was, like, not even on their program.

Like, they would have thought that was insane. You know, like, that's the difference. So, and I was looking ahead, like, a couple hundred. years, you know, and frankly, he was right. Like, where, where are Europeans, like, not mind fucked? Eastern Germany, you know, Slovakia, you know, places like that, you know, like the Russian Federation has terrible problems, but they're not, they're not promoting the children that they should be transsexual. They're not, like, declaring that Russia is too white and, you know, needs to atone for this. And it's, like, not even remotely within their country.

contemplation. You know, like, so what these fools claim about Yagga is he was a third worldist. Or like, it's like, no, he's not. You're a fucking idiot. That's not what he's saying. He's not saying, like, Russia is good. He's not saying the Soviets are good. He's saying that Europe is under occupation. Like, do you want to be eradicated from history or would you rather just have the Russians, like, cracking the whip on you? And yeah, that's not a good prospect either way, but there's a way out of the one. where you survive and arguably thrive, admittedly a century subsequent, and there's one where you cease to exist. Okay?

You can never make the choice to cease to exist unless you want to commit racial suicide. That was Yaqui's point. To conclude, my take on the birchers, I know we're going backwards, is what Tommy Messker said. They were like the politically correct, like, extreme right. They're guys who up until 1989 claimed everything that happened to some plot from Moscow. that's fucking retarded. You know, the Js don't exist.

The Social Engineering regime doesn't exist. You know, the New Deal regime wasn't what I said it is. It's communists are these bad guy ops who are like hiding under our bed and fucking else off. That's that that's it. It's that much of a funny fucking take. The guy I read is Revelo Oliver. And he's how I came to Yaki. It was through him because he praises him a lot.

He wrote, in the enemy of Europe, there's an addition that has, I think it's called The Enemy of My Enemy by Oliver. And he tells the story of the manuscript of the enemy of Europe, and he praises Yaki. But, yeah, and I have some other book by Birchers, but we'll talk up. Maybe we could talk about that another time. But yeah, I don't know. Oliver's pretty base, man. I'm assuming you've read him. Yeah, no, he was William Pierce's day one kind of inspiration.

him and William Galley Simpson It was worth reading too I'm not saying huge accolade Oliver Oliver was a weird guy I mean I think I've got I like a lot of what he wrote He was one of these academics who thought he had to prove He actually had Cujones

So he'd like he'd evoke a lot of stupid racial language for no reason Like look man I live in Chicago I'm not afraid of people dropping the N word But if you're some like fucking university professor Like trying to like talk hard by dropping that kind of shit It's fucking cringe so I could do without that stuff.

He had dumb ideas on the Kennedy administration, but he was a real philologist, and that was rare in America, even like 60, 70 years ago, and I respect that, and he had insights. Yeah, Oliver's worth reading, man, with some reservations. Well, and the reason I drop his name is because he's how I found Yaki. Yeah, yeah. He's a great Adam Green-esque ideas of Christianity,

and, you know, we need to somehow, you know, find a new faith struck. So, yeah, Adam Green is like, he's like some, he's like some Walmart motherfucker who, like, thinks he knows things. It's hilarious. He's adorable. He's like a J.J., which we call it, the J. Dyer. Well, no, he explained to me that he's more popular on the internet than I am. So, I mean, I guess he's, I guess he's, he's got the sensibilities of a 13-year-old girl.

It's like when he's not dropping, it's like Walmart take on, on great religions of the world, he's telling me. me that he's the he's the prettiest girl at his junior high school or something but I want to talk about that motherfucker he's um yeah he's like a bad smell who never goes away or her the reason why I don't even know who he is brought in I brought into that the reason why I brought it up is because uh you know since we have limited time with you one thing I I think it would be most useful to discuss is right kind of a lay of the landscape that the topology of the right currently like let's just take you know Normie con conservatism and whatever and just park that shit over here.

It's not going to be around much longer. It's no point talking about it. Right. So what we have now, the various factions that operate in it, the priorities of those factions, whether expressed or private, right? And the messages that these factions go about trying to propagate, you know, which ones are useful, which of these factions are viable, are none of them viable? Are any of them

good enough to, you know, do they, did anything possess a mention material capable of political organization and self-actualization? Right? Basically, what do we work with? What do we discard? Who do we work with? Who do we discard? Once we found that out, what do we work

towards? And how do we know when we're getting there? Yeah. I mean, what do we bolster? Who do we give, you know? It's not, most of these guys, they're just like internet guys. Like, they don't really exist. They're like these guys, like, and instead of like watching porn or being in the NFL

or like sports gambling, it's like say shit on the internet. So they pretend like, I'm like an odinist and droney, you know, like Iron Guard, like Ukrainian fascist and I want to kill Christianity, you know, it's like it's fake, you know. I mean, one of the reasons why, and again, I'm not saying like I'm so great, but the shit is like what I do 24-7. It's like my real life. So it's like, I'm going to talk to who. dudes or going to like an event or going to talk to like random like fucking other people i like say

here is where i'm going and these the people i'm talking to and this is like the shit i'm up on we're not yeah i mean like we are a movement but at the point i was making is like we pick you you don't choose us i don't mean you guys on deck i mean generally so like when i get like messages from motherfuckers like you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design they move you Even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range. For Mentor, Leon, and Terramar. Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2,000 euro.

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and this isn't some like internet club or something what my view is what I said on Burden's show a couple weeks back what we're doing what my peoples are doing what we've always been doing we are seceding from the regime and now there's the infrastructure to do that. We have our own communities.

We have our own capital bases. We own our own businesses. You know, we have, we have cooperatives where we educate our kids. We don't want anything to do with regime shit. We don't want to become the government. The state is dying. It's dead. It doesn't know it yet.

It's a zombie that is going to shamble on from under like 150, 20 years, but it's dead. We want nothing to do with it. Okay. What we're doing is. is we are living historically and we are bringing worthy people and we're a band-guard.

We do not want numbers. We do not want normies. We are a band-guard of people living historically and we are looking to the world after we are all gone, okay? Because that is when this is going to be fully realized. It has nothing to do with government. It has nothing to do with political parties.

There's nothing to do with, you know, capturing the city council of, you know, podunk, Iowa. None of that. We don't want to fuck with that. like that's not to say like one of the young buds who's in like homely infaction i took him to lunch today he's probably going to land a job in the trump administration and that's great okay i want young dudes to do that kind of thing and moving forward it'll like teach some things about you know like the reality of politics and like sharpen their chops for just like real life but our goal is

not we want to become the government and like stop immigration like that's we're way way way way way, way past that. That's the 20th century fight, okay? And there's not going to be there's not going to be some like system reinstated globally where like the Westphalian state comes back and you can just like

deport all the Mexicans and you know, create this like white person state that's where everybody's some like middle of the road Normicant that's not going to happen. That's never going to happen. Like what you can do though, the future looks like this. Like local is, I mean, this sounds

corny and I don't want to sound like some like Thomas Friedman like F-A-G-G-O-T or something but the future is this okay it's basically like sovereignty exists locally because like the government can't interfere with it anymore so it's like okay this hood over here is like 99.5% black like here me and my people's live

it's basically in the reverse but like white like over here there's some like mixed race community because that's the way people want to live you know people police themselves law enforcement basically private that's right starting to happen if you haven't noticed like policing is totally changing

like people's people's purview is going to become way way, way smaller. Economically though, like there's going to be a real homogenization of currencies and things. I mean, that's already happening. So you're going to have economic globalism. There's going to be like an availability of capital that's looking for a place

to go. The way people conduct business is going to be remarkably homogenous. But this idea of this is the government and it's it's the authority it's the parameters of the authority stopped here and you're part of this democratic state. These are your rights. These are your obligations. That's dead.

That's dead. Anybody who thinks it's not, isn't in the game. Just like these guys who talk about like the West, like we're going to defend the West. It's like there is no West. The West died at Stalingrad. You know? If you think in those terms, you're like not in the real world. You're like an internet guy.

Or you're some dude who like it's kind of like isolated from the reality of stuff because he lives you know in some in some town that's not really impacted to the full extent by globalism like Chicago is and he's trying to like piece together

he's reading stuff that's like 70 years out of date or that was written you know like in 1991 and thinking that represents reality when it doesn't I realize that was long-winded but yeah that's that I mean that's my take down I don't I don't fuck with like Wignass I don't fuck with like random

motherfuckers. I don't fuck with guys who like declare their part of some like imaginary like political movement. I mean, what we do is what we do and we get stronger every day. All right, man. Well, I want to give Stormier P a chance to ask a question or comment before I take it further.

Anything I've anything I've got to say is going to be like it's really long. I agree with almost all of those things some differences regarding global capital, things like that. But none of that is going to be interesting to any of your listeners.

Let's just be real. Thomas, when you talk about localism, is that just going to be de facto? Is that just going to be people, right now, if you start talking about that, it's almost like a plan. It's like, hey, let's all go. There's this really cool town in Virginia and everything where our people are already there. You know, we got to go there.

or is it just going to be people or it's going to become instinctual where it's just like, okay, we got to, I'm going to go find my own people now. It's like I'm not even, this isn't even a plan. I'm just packing up and getting the fuck out. It's both. I mean, look, man, like, I didn't think this would, I didn't think we'd reach this state. I mean, historically speaking, I don't just mean, like, in my own life, your own life. I didn't think we'd reach this state until I was already dead.

Okay. But, like, four, yeah, four years ago, I didn't have my first social media account until, four years ago. And, like, basically the minute I set it up, like, in two days, I have, like, 6,000 followers. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening here? You know, and now, I mean, I'm not clout chasing. I'm telling you, like, the reality. I literally know, like, 500 people.

Like, I know obviously some of them are better than others, but this all just, like, happened organically and, like, rapidly and spontaneously. and like the place I'm going to start spending my winters at that like burden and other guys turn me on to it just happened like a bunch of dudes and their wives like moved there because it's a nice place and it's deep big on Confederate heritage like nobody planned it just one day there was like 150 of us there you know this is happening all over the country it's probably happening over the world but I'm not a Globetrotter so I can't say So it's, like, I'm not saying you guys are saying this, but it's like, when guys talk to me, like, how do you see this shaking out?

I'm suspicious. It's like, bro, it's happening. You're not part of it, but it's happening everywhere. You know, like, it's not academic. It's happening. And it's a combination. You know, like, most of the guys that meet are up on this or like my buddy in the Southwest, um, who, uh, I used to lay a lot of content with. He's been busy with, like, you know, the business of raising kids and having his own business and stuff.

But he moved his town in Arizona. of and like the same thing happened. Like one day this like new like young dude and his wife or like girlfriend move in and they got a little kid and he's like some like huge trunk guys. So my buddy starts hanging out with him and then they start getting into like

historical revisionist conversations and then like all this guy's friends like move there. Then like random old people or like super right wing move there and then just like you know like it just happened. You know? And I hear these stories like over and over and over again. And just even, you know, I mean, like, now you're considered,

now you're considered, like, a nerd or something. If you're not at least, like, marginally, like, right wing. Or if you're, like, a white person who, like, acts, like, some pussy about stuff. Like, like, nobody likes that. Everybody thinks that's uncool and fucked up. And in contrast, in the 1990s, like, everybody fucking hated us. Like, you were viewed as basically, like, a scumbag, like, if you were, like, right wing. You know, yeah.

You know, so, I mean, that's, like, the degree to which that's why I think these black pill guys, it's, like, hilarious. It's like, you've either got no perspective, either you've got a perspective, you don't leave your house, or you're, like, 19 years old, and I have no idea, like, what the world used to be like. You know, like, basically, yeah, I mean, like, and I'm telling people, too, you know, like, summer 2023, like, I got spotted, like, some friends of mine took me to New York City,

which was awesome, because, like, I'd have been locked in jail before for the night, but this was particularly traumatic way it happened. Like, only bad happened in jail. I mean, it was fine. But, you know, this place, sovereign house out in Brooklyn, the only, like, subcultural action that's at all cool is right-wing. Nobody wants to be, like, Kamala Harris.

Nobody wants to fuck with Joe Biden. Nobody thinks it's cool to be, like, Tim Walls. You know, these, like right-wing spaces in places like Brooklyn, in places like Hyde Park here, in places like fucking, Los Angeles, it's like right-wing guys and girls doing their thing and like a bunch of artsy people and theater people and like fucking clout chasers want to be around it. I'm not saying that's cool. That's kind of retarded.

But that's the metric of the culture. So anybody who thinks like we are like anything subcultural that's happening or dynamic, like we are leading it, you know? So anybody... You know about Rogers theorem? Have you ever heard of Rogers theorem? No. I don't know what Roger's here.

It's a really interesting bit of math. Basically, technology, entrepreneurs use it to track, to predict and model the adoption cycle of like, let's say, a new way of doing things. It could be like how to interface the platform, you know, apps were completely different than anybody else's internet experience. So if you're going to plan out your runway, I figure out like, all right, this is how much I burn every month. This is about how fast my users are growing. how much more room do I need before the curve starts getting parabolic. Airgrid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area,

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Right. And the number, the magic number, it turns out this Rogers theorem, which is just for technology, works just as well tracking the propagation of ideas across society. Okay, I understand. Would you say that there's 13, 14% maybe roughly, of people that know what you and I know? Yeah, that's that much.

probably tries. So that means Roger Stearn basically says it may take five years, it may take six months, but once you pass 13, 14%, there's a point of no return. Right. That idea that knowledge, right, will be in every member of society, right, at some level of penetration, depending on what they interface with and what parts of that information is relevant to their individual,

Right. No, I understand. So when guys like the most powerful people in the world, like in the country, let's say, right? We know that they're listening to our guys. They're reading our stuff.

We've, I mean... Yeah, I mean, check this out. Our ideas are going to be everyone's ideas, is what I'm saying. It's what I'm saying. We'll check this out. And I mean, I got receipts for this. I got fucking witnesses. Like a year and a half ago, I got up playing to fucking Arkansas saw. And the co-pilot, when he's walking to take a piss, he says, hey, you're Thomas.

And I'm like, what the fuck? And he's like, hey, man, I really love your podcast, and my wife thinks you really funny. Like, let me take a selfie with you to send her. And then, like, at the Union Park, like, D&C shit, I'm there with Arthur Rimbaud, and, like, we're just talking. And this cop walks over. Like, I'm not going to drop what agency is wrong, because the last thing I want is for people that problems. But, like, I see him walking out of Rome, I was, like, gosh shit. He's probably going to get the fucking out of here. He's like, hey Thomas, like, you're awesome, man. You know, and I'm like, I'm like, talking about, like, guns and like all kinds of stuff.

And he's like, he's like, all right, fellas, you know, he's like, you know, be good, man, stay off. And he's like, you know, you got friends, like, you know, in the police department. And I'm like, this is fucking insane, man. You know, like, I, um, yeah. And like, uh, so that, that basically kind of hips me to, like, how the degree to which, like, what you're saying in, like, Roger's theorem is right. I don't really understand.

I mean, I understand statistics on some level, and I've read stuff. You know, like I'm always saying, like, I wish there was more serious sociology still being dropped, like academic sociology. But the stuff that does kind of spill over with neuroscience and things, I've read stuff about, like, how the nature of information, and how information is almost like self-perpetuating. Yes. You know, like, yeah, and I don't fully understand that shit, because it's not really my wheelhouse. Well, when you said, remember when I told you in the beginning before we started recording, that the conversation that you and Peter had about the last hundred years being an index, a dialogue with Marxist Leninism and how that was paradigm shifting for me.

So I came to faith, you know, I left the church as every young guy does, and then everybody, you know, has their atheist phase, and I got, You know, really, I'm going to, I hated learning in school. I didn't like it. Only much later on, like in my, in my mid-20s that I realized that I like it. Now I haven't had a TV in about a decade and learning shit is what I do for fun because I'm a weird guy. That's awesome. But I started pouring myself into science, had a learned all the science. Like I thought myself, you know, calculus because I wanted to understand like what the fuck I'm sign is saying.

Like, in his words, instead of just reading the books, like on the surface level. And then I had a bit of disposable income after I sold my first company. And I started like being, you know, like a guy in his 20s with too much fucking money. Like I want to buy, like, let me, I want to see, like, can I buy a piece of Einstein's notebook? Like, I want to buy that thing. And Google Translate like first came out where you could like hold your phone over the manuscript, like the writing. And it would just read you the text. And like, I'm holding my phone on this.

So yeah, yeah. So like, I'm reading Einstein's letter to another physicist, and this motherfucker's talking about God, right? He's like, I see God from the tiniest bit, from the tiniest of the tiniest of the largest, I see his handwriting everywhere. It's like he signed every single thing. And I was like, wait a second.

Like, this isn't what I was told that this man believed. This was, like, these guys are talking about something else. And from then on now, I just, I mean, consciousness science became like a hobby, then a passion, and then something like I started funding. And then like, so when you said in that episode, you said basically a race is a chain of being that stretches back from the beginning of time to the present and represents a form of epigenetic memory, right? and that collective epigenetic memory could be roughly called a consciousness. Yep.

You may have just been spitballing, but there's a hell of a lot of science to back up that that is not spitballing at all. Oh, I know. That's why I dropped it. That's a subtext on my science fiction. Oh, really? Yeah.

So I do have something about that. I mean, I, because that, I mean, that's all higher. Okay, like if you want to know, and then also that redeems. Air Grids, Operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans.

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stuff or yes it's okay well i mean what we're what we're talking about here i mean that that basically it defines it in different terms but that you're based that basically like this demonstrative like hail being right okay like at scale yeah yeah you know there's like this enduring memory that's heritable

yes you know and yeah that that basically informs you know like human behavior at scale like we consider to be like critical behavior. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. 100%. And like they've,

they've done this in animal studies as well. So like you could have groups of monkeys that are genetically identical, right, that were separated on an island. There's, you know, part of a large island. Then the waters raised a little bit. Split the monkeys up. Same exact, you know, set of monkeys. Just they can't swim the distance.

And they've basically been like many isolated for, say, three, four hundred years. Right. Monkey on island A. learns how to use a new tool. Other monkeys watching learn, but then other monkeys on the complete opposite side of that island, all of a sudden, all at once.

Learn. All at once. As well as the monkeys on the other islands that are separated on the other island. So the monkeys on the other island learn it too, instantly. 100 monkey syndrome. Yeah. There we go.

The Hunter Monkey Syndrome. And then their offspring know how to do it without being taught. So you're developing. There is a consciousness that we are both a part of and we exist in. Right. So it's kind of hard for people to kind of conceptualize. But if I analogize it to the radio. Right.

And the Pentagon is up on this shit. Right. And I know that sounds crazy, but we, 1957, the Pentagon Commission Stanford Research Institute, which at the time was the most prestigious research institute in the country, therefore the most prestigious research institute in the world at the time, saying, hey, we're hearing that the Soviets are doing research and things that the mind can do. All right.

We want you guys to figure out basically what's going on. They commissioned a broad study. It took SRI at three or four years. The report is called the report on the gateway process. Just type in Gateway Report. The very first thing will be the FOIA reading room. It's a 26-page document, which would later spawn the most successful military and civilian intelligence program in U.S. history.

But what these guys basically prove out through eight or nine different experimental modalities, so not like theoretical, this is like in the lab, that your brain kind of tunes into conscious. I do this is not where we want it to go, but basically, like, I guess you, when we, you could say it is like, right, racial consciousness is part of, you know, is wide as, you know, our history and our genes are wide, right? And it kind of gets blurry out on the sides. And that's why you're tuned into 101 and you're tuned into hot 101.7. All right. We're both listening to the same radio wave. We're only a fraction of a fraction of a decimal place away on the spectrum.

I got a different DJ than you got. I'm listening to different tracks, different genres. We have an entirely different experience. But yet we're all having a tiny little slipper of a much larger experience. So when people all of a sudden know things and intuitively know them in their gut all of a sudden, and they know the thing, they may not be able to express in words the totality of the idea that's just been given, the knowledge that's been given to them, but the same way that women's intuition works, right?

A woman will get information. She'll walk into a room and let's say, like, there's some scary guy down the hall that wants to hurt her. She doesn't know that fucking guy exists. She doesn't, she has no way of knowing that exists. But she will immediately instantly know. As soon as she walks in door and you say, what's wrong? She won't be able to tell you.

She'd be like, I can't put it into words, whatever. I just, I feel weird. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I think that's kind of what's happening, because it's all of a sudden white people know everywhere, all the ones. Sorry to take us off on a tangent, but from what you were telling me, that's wild. I didn't know about, like... That's what underlies, that that's what identitarian things are.

Okay, I mean, and so, and that's why trying to eradicate them. You're basically trying to rip out of people, like what makes them human. I've got to raise up momentarily. I'm sorry to be abrupt, but, um... No, it's all right. This was great, man. We should do this again when I got more time. I don't have to travel again for a minute so I can basically, within reason, make my own schedule.

So, yeah, I'd love to reconvene at some point. So, yeah, just hit me off, man. I mean, any of you guys, if you fellows don't on my number like Pete does, obviously, you can get it from him. But I really appreciate you host, me, man. Well, look, man, there's a lot to talk about, and there's no rush. so we look forward to we're going to be having more conversations so yeah if you came back that'd be

awesome we'd love no anytime yeah and like forgive me again for me in a bra forgive me for like rushing through stuff or like talking over people I wanted to get a lot of stuff up before I got to go so I didn't mean to be rude man no that's I appreciate you guys we needed the foundation laid and you did it so appreciate that

okay yeah hit me up uh I hit me up anytime man but yeah let me know this next week man if you want to do some more stuff and that would be great All right. Oh, here you go. A real Wallace for president, pin. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah, yeah. I got a Wallace-Lamey pin from the era. I gave it to one of the Youngbloods, if he promised to wear it on a Tuesday, and he did it. He said to be a photograph. What's your, real quick, for you go, what was your opinion of the first America first?

Because there's a lot of family history of me personally with that movement, particularly Charles Lindberg. No, they were great, man. Lindbergh was a great man and they were they were um after Huey Long died I mean they were basically the resistance to what we view as the deep state I mean I think long was problematic and all lot of guys in the right thing long was like this great hero and I'm not like throwing shade on him in categorical terms but there was problems there but no I um Cochlin um I mean I'm partial Dudley Pelley like he was kind of a crazy

uh, itinerant Protestant preacher. He was also like a writer. He wrote for Hollywood and he, you know, he, um, he's just a fascinating dude,

but, um, he was a little more extreme than, you know, the, I mean, the America first, uh,

woman was very mainstream. You know, um, so no, they were a fascinating tendency and very positive. And, um, Winberg would have made a great president,

um, I think. I think so, too. I think so too. Is there anything of that that is politically relevant today? Yeah, because,

um, yeah, it's the same fight. I mean, it's the same tendency. It's the same tendencies that essentially, like, create the battle lines. You know, conditions change. History doesn't repeat itself.

Like, only fucking idiots say that. But there are, like, enduring tendencies in political cultures that create, like, fault lines. So, yeah, you know, like, America First versus the New Dealers, you know, the silent majority, you know, versus the media and law enforcement, establishment in deep state, like

mega versus, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the hostile elite. Like, that's all, those are all components are like the same, um, the same constellation of, of conflicts that have characterized America since after the war between the states, you know, in some way, shape, or form.

That, I mean, that deserves its whole, like, a dedicated episode in its own right. It does. Look, man, we, we just laid fodder for fucking months worth worth of discussion, just from that. Just from that. All right, we'll let you go, Thomas. I appreciate it. Take care of Thomas.

All right, brother. Appreciate it. Yeah, I think this is the perfect time to take a break. I usually take a break in my show. Pete and Stormy. I'm good for minimum another hour. If you guys don't mind a quick break, I would love to pick up some of those threads

and talk to you guys. In fact, Stormy, I have a direct question from what you just said when you come back. All right, I'll be right back. The theory, you dropped earlier. You've told me about that before. Rogers theorem. That's why Elon bought Twitter.

I think that's why Elon bought Twitter. I'll be right back. Well, I think that was very pertinent to bring up. And it's happening. It's happening. So the thing you said about

a woman's intuition. If Elon didn't buy Twitter, if Elon didn't buy Twitter, none of this would have happened. He changed the entire political landscape just by allowing the flow of information to reach from little tiny frogosphere. Because it's not, just the J stuff.

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This is under two years. The mainstream media narrative isn't working. It didn't work. It lost the election. It lost the election. When you talked about the threat, the woman's intuition entering a room and feeling she's under threat but not knowing why. There's dozens of studies on that. This got Trump millions of votes, though. This phenomenon got Trump millions of votes because a lot of independence and even some Democrats flipped over to Trump. And the New York Times went out and asked these people directly, individuals that they interviewed.

Yeah. Ask them, why did you flip or why did you vote for Trump? why'd you go independent? Why'd you go for Trump and not the Democrats? And the number one response was immigration. Because the Democrats went so insane with letting so many people in during the Biden administration. And I think that it was that sense,

that intuition of a threat. Yes, and I don't think like crime. I don't think that's not what it is. I think like a racial threat. Like somebody is doing something bad to hurt. The media narrative that was trying to deny that that existed, didn't work.

They weren't able to sirep people into buying into all this liberal bullshit. And also the thing that didn't work is that they saw with their own eyes that the insane policies that the Democratic administration were causing

the threat. They were making the threat worse. So anarcho tyranny, which is what they were trying to use, which is what the Floyd riots were, was anarcho tyranny, didn't work. it had the opposite effect and it worked

it won trumped the election on the terms that you were just all the Taoists out there that's no surprise why the Taoist it's action

Taoism is like mysticism for rulers right it's there's a principle in there it's called action without action right if you're the ruler if you're the guy in charge right you have to

flow, your rule, your governance needs to flow like nature, right? Whenever you try and force something to happen that's not already happening, not already a current, you will get the exact opposite of whatever you try and do every time. Because you're going against the, like, your people are kind of like just the little receptors of a invisible current. right they're just like the little tiny you know like the little lights flashing on on the runway like that's just a current of electricity going through and then going through again you're basically trying to you know reverse something that's much bigger than you and much more much invisible is invisible and you will always generate whenever you try and forcibly change the trajectory of this

you will get the exact opposite thing right you're trying to awaken black racial consciousness So, oh, now you got white racial consciousness. Oops. That's a problem. Well, okay, so what do you guys think for whatever it is we're trying to do? And Pete, you got a lot of series with Thomas, your show. Even the episodes without Thomas are educating people. It's educating people.

And what do you think? My, the quickest way I can characterize what I think Trump does for these ideas. ideas. I mean, I think he helps people in real life materially. But what he does for our ideas, at the very least, is he gives us breathing room. He gives us breathing room so that we can let these ideas percolate. But I'd like to ask Pete, what do you think a Trump victory does for, I don't know, I guess I'll just say the right wing. Our guys. Yeah, our guys. Our guys. Yeah. I think it allows us. I'm hoping it allows us to start realizing that the progressive, the wokeism, is dying to the point where it's not powerful. It's not something that needs to be a focus anymore. What I'm hoping is from our guys and is they have to start looking at the real threat. to the right wing and the real threat to us.

And it's the same threat that it's been for basically 100 years. It's the same group that's given us the wokeism. It's the same group that's given us mass immigration. It's the same group that's basically tried to destroy white European Christendom. and by Trump actually being friendly to that group, I think it helps more people to, it's going to help more of our guys who aren't willing to step over the line that I have and that a lot of us have to start saying,

why are we allowing these Zionists and these radical leftist Jews to control our culture and control our culture and control. our politics. Because I think that's what the next thing is. The next thing is, is like if we're going to,

if we're going to make America great again, this has to be about America. And I don't know that it's even possible at this point or at any point in the near future

to decouple from the Zionist power and leftist Jewish power. And I think it's going to cause more people to do what Thomas is talking about is to just separate and do everything they can to get away from this regime. Do you think if everybody knows, they'll just let 2% stay in charge? Well, I mean, here's what I can't figure out.

But yeah, here's the thing is, you know, I was having a conversation with somebody on in DMs on Twitter today and he was talking about conservatism and everything and I said well conservatism is you know why would I want to conserve anything because conservatism is left wing and he said well how is

conservatism left wing and I said well define conservatism for me and he said well holding true to the values of the founding of America and I said oh so you mean white European rule you mean the only people who can vote are white males who are property owners.

Okay, so where is that in conservatism? And he's like, shit, you're right. And I'm like, most conservatives are civil rights regime Americans. And the civil rights regime destroyed the Constitution. There is no Constitution anymore. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is the Constitution. of the United States. And I don't know how you

break people of that. I mean, sure, a lot of it has to do with the fact that boomers live through that, and boomers look at it as something very important, and boomers are going to die off. They're dying off more every year. Gen X, I think as a Gen Xer, we're a nihilist,

we're a very nihilistic generation I don't know that we care so much and that's the problem is I don't know that most Gen Xters care enough to rebel against occupation millennials, millennials don't care enough

millennials aren't going to do anything to insult anybody in any kind of way that could be ethnic or religious or whatever so I think it's going to come down to the zoomers So the quicker we can get the zoomers in power, the better chance we have of breaking that 2.4% that are basically have been controlling our politics now for, I wouldn't even say 100 years. I would say really, you know, the founding, since the founding of the Lekud Party.

Yep. Is really where you see it. Which was, when was the Lekud Party founded? Was it with the founding of the nation of Israel? Late 70? Is Lekud late 70s? Let me look up real quick. Yeah, you're basically talking about when organized crime got diplomatic immunity.

But, I mean, I would, I mean, you have to go at least back. Yeah, 1973. Yeah, 1973. Why would you make it that late, though? I mean, the Civil Rights Act was prior to that. The founding of the same. They still haven't, they still haven't, hadn't completely disenfranchised my people. Yeah.

I mean, the basically every war since 1973 has been a war for Israel. Yeah. And when you go to go ahead.

I was just going to say World War II was a war for Israel. Israel didn't even exist yet. Well, it was a war it was a war for world jury. They had come in, they had come into power and they were

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Oh, hippie generation. I mean, in 1968, they voted in Nixon. Yeah. And that was the... And what was the... A Woodstock. In 19702, Nixon won in a landslide. Yeah.

So, I mean, it's not like we... It's not like we lost who we were. It was after that. It was after Vietnam. It was after... It was really with the... You know, I would even say, say the Reagan Coalition, bringing in all of these evangelicals in there who are

evangelicals for Israel. I mean, they're all Israel firsters. So, you know, I mean, I don't think it was full-on capture until, let me, Lekud came into power and, you know, was created in 73, but their power really started to really take off like 79, 1988. Well, this is really interesting then because A, L'Kud Party is almost dead and B, Israel is almost dead. And now we've got guys calling each other

wasps now. Powerful guys. Like, Astral to the point, like, we're talking about World War II. In my series with Pete, we outline how both the Republican party

and the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party, having just put FDR into into the White House. Within six months, they had figured out what was up. They're like, oh, this isn't actually, they didn't know that FDR was hiding a bunch

of, you know, Jews under, like Bolshevik Jews underneath his wheelchair. You know, they just scooted him on in there. And then, holy shit. Because the American Liberty League, what was the precursor to

the America per first political movement. This was, this is, you know, in the nascent days, but there was a lot more firepower behind the American Liberty League. You had the head of the Democratic Party, right, who was previously, right before FDR, I should, I can't remember his name, right? So you had, Al Smith, you had Al Smith, who was the Democrat Party presidential candidate, the year, the election cycle before FDR and the chairman of the DNC for 30 years. Then you had the head of the Republican Party, right? And you had Taft was there.

But also you had John J. Raskin, who is the largest funder of the DNC. He was the chairman of chairman of chairman, founder and chairman of General Motors. And then on the other side, also in the American Liberty League, you had Henry Ford. You had Henry Ford, you had Jack Morgan, the son of Pierpont Morgan. You had Nelson, sorry, I can't remember if it was Nelson or Nelson's dad, Nelson's dad, John Rockefeller Jr. Anyways, you had the Rockefellers, you had Irie and Pierre DuPont, you had literally all of the capital in America, like all of the WASP aristocracy,

their banking empires, their industrial empires, right? You had the chairman of the Democrat Party that just put FDR in, and the chairman of the Republican Party, you had Huey Long, you had Father Cochlin, all in the same place, at the same time, in the same organization going, what the fuck is happening? who are these people how did they get here and i read a i read one of their speeches on on pete's show these men are scared of something right none of these guys are friends raskin and ford used to feud like on a legendary level right more than mark cuban and

Elon has ever like i'm talking like you know actually industrial espionage industrial sabotage arson like these guys were at war. Al Smith would have never been caught in the same room with any of those guys. And these guys were like, this is the most important thing in the world. Somebody has taken over our government. They're talking directly about communism.

They're talking directly about Bolshevism. They're like, this FDR, this New Deal regime isn't from the Democrats. This isn't anything that we want. This is anything the Republicans want. this is coming from somewhere else. And the only thing that could have stopped those men was Pearl Harbor. Because it did.

They used a war twice. They used a war to solidify their control over England and World War I. And they used the exact same tactic. Yeah. Because the Wasp aristocracy was already onto them. Like they had, like everybody had figured out what the fuck was going on. and who the enemies were. Yeah, I dropped Yaki and Revel O.P. Oliver as two guys to kind of show as

beacons of what the right wing once was. Both of them insist that we wanted Japan to attack Pearl Harbor and we let it happen. FDR did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they say that we did for that reason that you just named, because that was the only way. For their revolution, the revolution in 1933, to really solidify, take effect.

Yeah, and the stuff Pete was talking about, Pete, I appreciate what you said a lot, and you used a very important word. I want to point out, too, you're talking about Nixon, how late that was. George Wallace ran for president 72, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, so that late, we had George Washington on the president,

or George Wallace on the presidential ticket. Yeah. So how far? his campaign slogan was stand up for America and after that run he didn't do any standing up. Well, you know, Pete, I don't know how much time you have, Pete. I want to pick up something you said, but before I do, I want to ask you a question, actually, because part of the inspiration that me and Stormy, me and Stormy cooked this whole thing up and, you know, hopefully we can get a lot of episodes out of this.

Part of our inspiration was to... I didn't know. I was signing up for all that. Yeah, you did. He's bullshiting. Part of our inspiration for that was to sort of track to some extent how far we've fallen. There was like a dark age is of the right wing. Definitely, you know, the George W. Bush administration, the Clinton administration. It was like a dark age. We went underground.

The paleo-cons were kicked out by the neocons. And then we had this resurgence. Do you, it looks like you've pretty much already answered this question, but I want you to, I want you to elaborate on if you'd like to. Do you think we've gotten it back to some extent? Do you think at least some factions or some outlets of the quote-unquote right wing are sort of picking up the thread and keeping it at that level? Or do you think we have a lot more building to do?

In other words, if this has been going on for almost 10 years now since the first Trump administration, what phase do you think we're at? I mean, do you think there's still a lot more work to do ideologically? Or do you think the stuff Thomas has been talking about the on-the-ground stuff is like what we need to take and run with? That's a good question. Let me just make something clear. People are going to think that I don't think the Jews were in charge until 1970. Oh, I hope I didn't give you the impression I was saying that.

The takeover, it's just the takeover wasn't complete until it started point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, all right. I hope I didn't miss character. anything you said. No, that's fine. No, no, that, no, it's fine. I'm glad I'm glad you, you, you push back a little bit on it because that, that needs to be cleared up. What I would say is, it seems that the, the closest we could have gotten to getting back to where we were was the paleo-conn movement of the late 80s and early 90s. And I think that, well, it went away, obviously, it was defeated,

And it was defeated from the inside. It was defeated. It wasn't defeated by Clinton, by eight years of Clinton. It wasn't defeated by Ross Perot, you know, talking about economics and things. It was defeated by, quote, unquote, right-wingers on the inside. That has, it's exploded. With the advent of the Internet, the ideas that, Buchanan was talking about and you know the paleocons were talking about they're back and

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and we'll find people talking about Carl Schmidt today. You might find people talking about Yaqui today. You'll definitely find people talking about Pap Buchanan. It's growing. It's spread. the vice president elect follows our guys and probably has a burner where he follows everyone

um yeah Elon Musk as well I've I've heard about this Elon Musk burner yeah yeah so you have this you have this happening you have people going these are the ideas that that need to be embraced

these are the ideas for going forward but once again our greatest enemy is on the inside. Our greatest enemy is the kosher right. This is actually what the... This is why when Astro was saying

like these are these problems. Like you need to do a panel and you need to get everybody that you can and it's worthwhile. This is the problem of our time right now. Right? You have two things are happening. The liberals are starting to realize that they're in real trouble. I don't know if you've already seen it but like New York Times journalist or you know Rachel Maddow's telling everybody on her show today that oh you just you need to actually like reach out and talk to Trump supporters take them out to dinner get to know them a bit and see if you can slowly

change their mind all right and somebody just put a picture the the perfect gift of like this the spider or the scorpion just crawling onto the frogs back I'm like all right so liberals are going to try and retake over conservative conservative conservative right and then we've got the kosher right trying to take control of the right now at a at this kind of um you know in the wake of considerable victory i consider eon the big victory i don't consider trump i and dude a thousand percent agree with that that i that is exactly where i'm at i see i see i see eon doing policy the fact that mike pompeo uh no pompeo was trending for Yeah, just today.

Or three days. Last three days. Who controls what trends? Trump made the announcement today. Trump made the announcement today. Pompeo or Haley are not going to be part of his White House. I saw that on. Whose hands juggled those algorithms?

Who decides what's trending or what's not? Yeah, man. Oh, this is great stuff. And let me tell you. You know, and the thing is that, so we have this term, this term that Lindsay came up with a couple years ago I think he came up with it I don't know who came up with it but he he's the one

who's trying to push it down everyone's throat is the woke right oh yeah yeah and the woke right apparently is are the people who are the people on the right who are pushing back against the kosher right that's all that's it

we see one ethnic religious whatever the fuck you want to call them group who is has been in control has exercised control for over 100 years

took total control 30, 40 years ago and then now we're fighting all their wars for them they want us to continue to fight they're trying to get us to fight their wars for them now and we have people

on the right a lot of them anons which you have to ask the question why are they a nons? Let me tell you something if I yeah If you're on the right and you're, you're on the, I mean, I hate the term dissonant, right?

Because it doesn't mean anything. But if you're on this, if you're on this side of the divide, you are pushing back on, you're an American. You're America first. You are heritage America first. You are, we, we should be calling our own shots this far. influence that has for the last 2,000 years and further back, every society they go into, they infiltrate into power, and they start trying to guide things in their direction for their benefit. If you're not concentrating on that, if you're not talking about that, I don't know that

you're on our side. Yeah, I also don't know why you're anon unless you want to infiltrate. If you're anonymous and you're not naming the J, what are you protecting yourself from with your anonymity? What is the point? Or if you're, or if you're, you name the J a little bit, but then you go and then you counter signal. The way I

look at it is if you counter signal you're then you're out. You're out. Yeah, well, once you start, and this is what Rufo did, Rufo started doing recently. Rufo

put out an article about Charleroy, Pennsylvania, and he mentioned in that article that Jewish family and children's services were the ones who were bringing the Haitians in there, and that they were working in there every week, and they were

behind this. And apparently, and then not a week later, he's counters signaling, and he's calling out quote-unquote anti-Semites. it's like he did this article, put this out, didn't clear it with his bosses, and got yelled at, and now he's like on, you know, on the attack for anybody who is.

And then he hires two women. He announces that he's hiring two women to come in and work. And then when you go into their backgrounds, you find out they used to work for Jewish NGOs. And it's like, okay. Well, I know who, if you're worried about who's controlled this government, if you believe Thomas Massey, probably the most honest man in the government, and he says, everybody but me has an APAC handler, has an APAC babysitter, we're a fucking occupied government by a foreign power. And that foreign power is, call it Zionists. All Zionists, you know, these Zionists are Jews. Okay? If you're not talking about that, or if you're making excuses for it, or if you're hiding the fact that you're Jewish and you're saying,

you're saying that, oh, Jews need to be coddled and, you know, we need to, we need to sell them on ourselves, but then when it comes to, like, women who vote wrong, you say those women need to be attacked and they need to be called out. this kosher right you're talking about let's just be honest they're just neocons really and the funny thing is the thing that kills me is they're like we're not neocons

because we're racist and you're like well that's really funny because the neocons all were racist up until you know uh george w bush's ethical conservatism and then all of a sudden the neocons were this like completely uh you know melting pot uh non racist non racial party all of a sudden.

Everybody's racist. Everyone is racist. Anyone who's ever lived in New York. Tell everybody where racism came from. Tell everybody that you did a show the term racism came from the same place that transgenderism

came from. Magmus Erfeld in Germany. He came up with the term. He promoted, I don't know if he came up with the term, but he definitely promoted the term and put it into the zeitgeist. The reason that they say only whites can be racist

is from Magnus Hirschfeld. They're actually being doctrinally correct. When they say, oh no, racism is actually just in-group preference and cultural preference, except for when white people do it. When white people do this, it's called racism. And then it

becomes this nefarious and evil thing. but only when European populations do it. That right there is directly Magnus Hirschfeld, who wrote it because the Germans didn't want to let him have his child brothel anymore. Yeah. And I dropped the term melting pot. Who came up with the term melting pot?

One of this guy's co-ethics. To your point, I found a very interesting thread today, and I posted it on X. and I haven't really gone too deep in the guy that put it together, but it's really good, it's accurate. I'll read you a quote for it, Astro, since you're not on Twitter anymore. James Lindsay worked with Christopher Rufo at Color Us United. Advocacy for a race-blind America.

Guess who funds this? The T-C-C-O-H fund, T-I-K-V-A-H fund, and the Manhattan Institute. Yeah, from the tick-off Olam. Yeah. So apparently Chris Rufo and James Lindsay. I have actually a bunch of... Paul Singer. Is it Paul Singer who funds Manhattan Institute?

I think you're correct. So these guys aren't kosher rights. This is an op. This is an op. Yeah. They're not right. This is an op. These guys being backed by these groups and these institutes kind of explains their sudden, like,

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Yeah, you know, they're both ops, apparently. Apparently, it's a family thing. But yeah, I think you were in my, you were in that Twitter, you and I actually met on that Twitter space where, it was about Lex Friedman's Lex Friedman's another one. He's another one. Yeah, he's part of the same group.

Completely astro-surfed. Bingo. I kind of know Stormy's answer to this question because we've talked about this, but I want both of you guys to talk about this. Pete, you use the term decoupling. Can we decouple America from this alien facehugger that's just like pumping its fucking

ideology down our throat. The Yaki's whole thing is that like we can't. Like he called America the enemy of Europe. And in that essay, he doesn't ever say America. He never refers to us as just America. He always calls it Jewish America. Every time. And his whole thing is that like we can't be decoupled.

And Thomas said earlier, Yaki was right. And he was. And if you read the enemy of America, it's very clear that he was correct. But yeah, sorry, thank you. But now it's, you know, 50, 60, 70 years after he wrote that. And a lot of things have transpired. And I definitely think we are in a historical singularity, at least since World War II now. I think we're in totally new territory.

And it's uncharted for America since then. And it looks like there may be a chance that we can decouple from, from Jewish influence. Let me just be explicit about it. Pete, do you think does it look like it's going that way to you? Or do you think we should just write it off like Yaki did and say it's not going to happen?

We need to do something different. I think it is going that way, but I think there's really only one way that it's going to accelerate. And that's that Americans are going to have to accept their identity as Americans. Yep. I was talking,

I have an episode dropping tomorrow with Paul Fahrenheit and John Slaughter. And the whole episode is about the Confederate flag. And that the Confederate flag, when you look back in our history,

is really the only symbol of Heritage America that exists. And, you know, we didn't say, we said that it would be, you know, the Confederate,

and flag would be great if we can make but it just has to be something it has to be a symbol it has to be that myth we need that myth you know when I first saw the whole work right thing I saw it as a myth war and that's what they're fighting against

when Darrell went on went on tougher and and said that Churchill was the villain of World War II he was attacking myth and Constantine Kisand's whole argument for why that's woke right is because

the left attacks our myths. They attack the myth of, you know, they tear down our statues, they tear down all of this stuff. They want to get rid of these myths and institute their own myths. Well, if you're going to have control

over a population, over a landmass, you're going to need your own myths. And if there's a myth that exists, you're going to have to destroy that myth. And we have our founding myths. The only problem is that they've been supplanted by

another myth which is the myth of World War II. The myth of the Civil Rights Act. So, yeah, if you want to say it's woke right to attack myths, yeah, but the myths that I'm attacking have nothing to do with the original

myths of this country. These are myths that replaced the founding myths of this country, and these myths come from outside America. They're not American at all. Just like Constant himself. Look, this is viral, this is viral rewriting of the DNA so that the virus is replicated by the perpetuation of our DNA.

That's what they're doing by putting these different myths in here. They're trying to literally, like, overcoat our genetic. They understand mysticism. Well, hold on. Before you get into the mysticism thing, I want you to... They're creating a paradigm. It's not just... It's not just...

It is a entire... The Jews are masters of this. Right? They don't try and create binaries between two different facts or two different political positions, right? It's much deeper than that, and that's why it has sticking power. It has permanence. And it's also why people can't...

get out of the it traps them in in the in the in the in the diet that they're set at the the purpose of dialectics is hermeticism right it's the principle of polarity is what they're doing right so what they're basically doing is like we on the surface like when when what's his name um adel guy um greenblat uh the little golem yeah greenblat when he's saying like oh well we've been playing a left right right game. Yeah. He makes it sound like, oh, well, we just wind up the left and we wind up the right

and we throw it at each other. But it's a lot more than that. These people are trapped in, they've, the, the media and the kind of cultural apparatus has created entirely different worldviews, right? They're, what they see as reality, right, what options they think are available to them at any look at the pandemic right this is this shows you like how too different how how how intricate paradigms are because the solutions and options that our side thought was available to us right we're going to we can do this thing we can do this other thing we're going to try different types of

like we're going to go and like dig up old bits of science and try and find other treatment like these were options that we found that were available to us the other side none of the options none of those pathways were even didn't even exist they were outside of their paradigm so it not only affects how you act in that particular culture or that particular conflict diet right but it affects how you maneuver right like what things you will take in as immediately true immediately false a problem gets dropped in your lap oh yeah and if I control your paradigm I know I know Oh, like, oh, your house is on fire.

Well, paradigm A, all of these doors are closed off and they're sealed off, right? And only these two doors over here are available in paradigm B, right? The exact opposite. We got three doors. Like, you control how people's minds move. You control how they think, and then you can pretty much control how they will interact with any particular new information. Sorry. Yeah, you get your mind, they trap your mind in a thought prison, and then any of the way.

maneuvering that you do feels like you're maneuvering, you're out maneuvering, whatever's being thrown at you, but you're still trapped within the confines at that thought prison. And yeah, so what I was saying... Check this out. Okay. A story came out today

by ABC. ABC all over the country. Locals had this. That an Iranian national, an Iranian American, was hired by the Iranian Republican Guard and everything

to assassinate Trump. And it says that two men were arrested in the United States for it and it was two Jews. Yeah. And when they say, now where does the article say this is just the level this is the level of

how you have to think about these things because it's so it's so much propaganda and it's so much brainwashing. So where is this Iranian? He's in Tehran. This guy doesn't even exist probably. This guy doesn't even exist.

These two Jews got caught in an assassination plot, and the cover story is that there's this guy, someplace where they can't get him, that is pulling the strings on all of it. Yeah. Okay. And people will buy this 100%. And I bought the story until it was like, until I realized, oh, wait a minute.

This guy, they didn't arrest this guy. They're saying he's in Tehran pulling the strings on these people. What? How do you know? How do we know this person? How do we know this is a real person? And this is the kind of stuff that we're dealing. This is our reality.

That's what we're expected. And our reality is fantasy. Our reality is fantasy. Half the country lapsed it up. Yeah, Stormy sent me that. Stormy sent me that article. It's the perfect example of it, right? And then when certain people read that information,

they're immediately going to think certain thoughts to how we've got to solve the Iranian. We have to solve the Iranian, you know, puppeteer problem, the Iranian occupied government. So in terms of this decoupling that I, it looks like it, there's potential for it to happen. There were conversations about this going on in the 50s and 60s. How are we going to do this? And I was reading so many, well, here's what I want to say. And me and you've talked about this story. I was reading Revel O'O Oliver, who I keep mentioning, because everyone has to read him. He will change your fucking life.

And he will make you realize how limp-risted and milk toast the right wing is now compared to this guy. He was denigrating the people on the right who were saying that we need to split the Jews and basically like split them on communism versus Zionism and say, get them going after each other. They're saying it'll never work. Well, back then, Oliver was saying it'll never work. But back then, they were talking about an active action that they, the right wing, took to make that happen. I think that that has happened and they did it to themselves when October 7th happened

because yeah Pete shaking his head so I don't really need to explain why they did it to themselves I've said since October 7th that there's a Jewish civil war going on yeah yeah but the reason I'm bringing it up though is that we have to be opportunistic

with this we need to like to see this for what it is and take the opportunity to jump in and and and ride that wave and to cynically steer any of it towards us for our benefit and our goals. One of the questions I asked Stormy was like, well, what do we do with the anti-Zionist left? Do we, the only people I see out there denouncing them are the kosher right. And I think it's because they're scared of them, because I think they're scared,

because a lot of the left who's going after Israel now are not Jewish. They're the liberals who were in lockstep with everything the Jews wanted up until now. Yeah, I think the, I don't know that you can take them both down at the same time, so you have to like prioritize. Oh yeah. You can't delegitimize, you know, and to me, the first one you delegitimize is the war party. because the war party is pulling us into basically

millions and millions and a billion people hating us and also trying to pull us into war war with Iran is ridiculous you can't win a war with Iran it's just impossible Ukraine fighting a war against Russia is fucking insane yeah

So, so, you know, the way I look at it is that, that whatever you want to call the right-wing lacude, these just war maniacs, these, the settler armies and everything, you know, we want to destroy them. We want to make sure, we want, we want, we want, we want, I would rather those left-wing lunatics, cultural lunatics, take over. Israel than the right wingers. And one of the reasons why is because eventually those left wingerers are going to be like, you know, it's kind of racist that we don't

let other people in here. And as soon as Israel becomes a multicultural country where it's over. Then the only thing we have to worry about is, like the Bank of London, the city of London, places like that, the centers of Jewish power and banking. And hopefully with the, and really the city of London, which I believe Jerome Powell has been at war with now for two, two and a half years, three years. If you take them down, basically they're the ones who are funneling all the money, well, except for, you know, for us. And, you know, but they're the ones who are basically guiding that whole project there. And when I say city of London, I'm not talking about, you know, bad teeth and things.

I'm talking about the one square mile city of London in London that is completely independent of England and is just basically a Jewish stronghold. It's its own sovereign entity within the city of London, where Herod's is, where all of these world banks are, where all the dirty money in the world is filtered through. And, you know, Jerome Powell has done a great job of cutting them off. and you're going to war with them and destroy, like, you know, weakening the euro to the point where the euro's on its last legs. And the British pound, I mean, look at what the British pound is now. The British pound is, what, a buck and a quarter for a buck in a quarter compared to, like, one of our dollars.

The whole time I was growing up was $2. And it's, and that has, that's coming down. So the way I see it is, you have to break, if you break that right-wing, war party and banking party through what Jerome Powell is doing and what's happening with, I don't know, look, I mean, they're just trying to go to have fight seven front wars, which aren't going to work. If you break them and the left, you know, the, say the city of Tel Aviv advertises the gayest city on the planet, those are the people who get power. They're going to destroy the country. They'll, Israel may not disappear, but they're going to destroy their culture.

and as soon as they destroy their culture, they're basically like anywhere, they're like anywhere else. And, I mean, they could even be friendly with, with surrounding countries, who the hell knows? I would much rather have those left-wing lunatics

running that than the right, than the war party. They will destroy, they will do our job for us. Just like, just like Lekud is doing, is, by, they can't even fight Hezbollah. The only way they can do

anything in Lebanon is to drop bombs. They can't go in. And you're not going to take over a country unless you can go in. You're not going to control a country unless you can put troops in there and you can take over the government. And I mean, that's supposed to be illegal under world, under international law, which I mean, we know they don't care about. But they're not going to be able to do that. So what are they doing? I mean, they can. haven't defeated Hamas. Netanyahu does not want the hostages returned.

He doesn't want this piece. He doesn't want October 7th investigated. I mean, this is a perfect time, and it could possibly, this could possibly be the decoupling. But, I mean, our guys need to meme, you know, meme this into existence

and talk about it more. But the problem is that there are so many people who are really uncomfortable talking about this and talking about the destroy I mean destroying Israel destroying their government or having their government become something completely different more like

global a global homo type of government and then you have people on who are quote unquote on our side who are pro-Israel who are I mean who are Zionists I mean they don't know what they're talking about they don't know what they're doing they're the i mean i think it's

a platform yeah they have a platform but okay so let me ask this i think we're probably i don't know how much more time we have but not a lot um the thing is the thing is well and i want i want you to rejoin but i got to get this out

those kosher right wingers that we're talking about they're cheering trump they're claiming it's them who got the victory so that's why a lot of like that's why like a lot of like white I mean obviously it's bullshit but that's

why a lot of white nationalists who I don't agree with by the way I'm with Thomas on this even though I like a lot of what they say I think they're bad at politics is the reason I don't agree with them they don't know how to do politics it's not that I disagree with their platform anyway they'll point to the kosher right

celebrating Trump to the point where they try to claim the victory for themselves as say see he's not our guy those guys love him if those guys love him if those guys love him. It must be because he's going to give them something that goes against our interests. They're terrible politics. I think they're wrong, but there's a point there that I think needs to be refuted. And based on what Pete just said, I'd like to hear his response to that.

Like, why is the kosher right celebrating Trump? Or just whatever you want to say about it. They honestly believe that they got him elected. Yeah, I think they do. I mean, that's it. They honestly believe that they got him elected. and maybe they did help. Maybe they meme some things into the air, and maybe there were some things,

you know, there was some kind of help there. But what have we seen from Trump ever since he, since, for Tuesday it was it five days ago? Today he says Pompeo and Haley have nothing to do with this government. It's so funny how it flies in the face of what Curtis Yarvin just wrote. I don't know if you read it.

I like him way better than you two guys do. But his whole article was like, look, this is fucking Pompeo's guy. Pompeo is Trump's boy. You want to be with him? And then two days later, Trump comes out and says Pompeo's out. And Jared Cushner's out. Is he out?

Jared Cushner's out. Is that official? And miss that. They said that. I mean, they said that earlier this year. Back in February, they said that if Trump wins, Jared Cushner's not going to have a place in the White House. I saw that. I saw that.

But there's people this week saying he's still around. He's using that. Isn't that quote from that sketchy Jerusalem Times article from a Lutnik? I love the one where they like just ripped out like one a couple lines from the Littnick interview and didn't take him in in context. I love I love the Jerusalem Times, me and Stormy. It's the funniest newspaper on the planet. Me and Stormy referenced it in our Ukraine episode because, they were literally calling deserters from Ukraine.

They were literally referring to them as refugees and like war refugees. And I'm like, dude, these fucking people literally deserted the minute Russia invaded. And this paper is called and fled to Israel, which is illegal under Ukrainian law to have a citizenship in Israel. And the Jerusalem Times is calling them war refugees. I'm like, this paper is fucking... Only the... Unintentionally hilarious.

Of course, of course. Anyway, Pete, I'm sorry, I interrupted you. Well, and it's what I've said, it's what I've been saying, you know, since like February. It's like, you know, Maria Madelson pledges to give a bunch of money, doesn't give it all. Yeah. Then you have all of these guys, then you have all of these guys from tech who are coming in there. You know, and I mean, David Sacks, David Sacks puts out on his, you know, and David Sacks of Jew from South Africa. He puts out on his Twitter account yesterday a button that says neocon and it's got a slash shrew.

He's like, no neocons in this administration. I mean... What is a neocon? What is it really? Neoconsky. I mean, it's what Michael Jones says is neoconsky. Yeah, there is Israeli firsters. Yeah. So he...

So what I've been saying is if the guys like Musk, if the tech guys, if the Little Tech guys are the ones who have more, they're the ones who are whispering in Trump's ear. They're the ones who are influencing Trump more. Then we have a shot. Because if he starts listening to the people around him who may have Israeli sympathies or who are Zionists, then we don't.

But so far, and we're only five days, into this thing. He's basically rejecting all of these people. I don't know enough about his chief of staff, Susie Wiles. I mean, I know her dad was a Christian, Pat Summerall, you know, because I grew up, I grew up watching the Giants, and he was like the announcer for the New York Giants. So I know who Pat Sumerall is. He was a Christian. I don't know what her sympathies are towards Israel. I'm sure if I really tried to dig deep into it. But so far,

it looks like the neocons are getting pushed out. And if the neocons get pushed out and you get people like, start naming like people who appear on Judge Knapp's show. You start getting like Ambassador

Freeman or Ambassador Jeffrey Sachs or you start getting Mirschimer. if you start getting, you know, McGregor, if these names start popping up as advisors and things like that, well, I mean, we have a chance. It's just a matter of the first time around, it seemed like Trump decided, made his decisions on personnel by the last person who whispered in his ear. So you basically, who's whispering in his ear right now? That's the only question. and as far as these you know the kosher right thinking that they got him elected

go ahead and think that yeah let them i mean i'm i'm fine i'm fine with people being delusional yeah yeah i think you're talking about about waiting to the counter signal is super important but i want you guys to keep going i just want to throw out here real quick uh pete mentioned miriam adelson pledging however much money and she didn't give all that a lot of people point to that a lot of people point to that to say oh look Trump is completely owned by the Jews that's what I fucking see all the time

he's completely owned by the Jew Elon Musk you heard of Timothy Mellon well hang on Elon Musk's pack gave like a hundred million dollars more than the Aetlesons did so I don't even really want to hear I got a step away

you guys take it from you back Tim Mellon Tim Mellon donated 170 million as a single individual how come that's never talked about anywhere how come nobody nobody I mean up until like a week ago but I mean like on a minute

we can have people and then we can have people like on the kosher right or you know just the complete lunatics who believe that the Jews control everything that they're you know that we're basically everything is Jewish puppetry including

Elon Must Buy and Twitter or whatever I think those are ops every time I see it now Yeah, the, but, you know, they'll just say, oh, you know, that Tim Mellon is, oh, look at his family. His, you know, he had relatives that funded the whole LSD experiments in the 60s and things like that. It's like every fucking family has, you know, it almost seems like Tim Mellon is like the black sheep of the family because he doesn't have anything to do with that. Yeah, but I mean, if you were a wasp, guy, a young man, like, you went into intelligence. Like, that was it.

Like, you did your, you did your state in the military, right? Either Army or Navy, or, you know, if you're a loony, you did Marines. And then you went into intelligence. Like, my granddad, same exact thing. Did Marines, did the OSS. All right. His son did the exact same thing. All of the other families that, you know, they were associated.

seated with did the exact same thing, everything from, like, it's just what lost families. What? Yeah, you meant. My great granddad did that. Great granddad went into, after a stint in the military, went into diplomacy. Granddad. Granddad was the guy that, oh, I'm trying to not to docks myself.

He's the guy that had the heart attack. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He, um, yeah, we go, me and the kikeko, we go way back, apparently. But to what you were saying about the factions that are in, or the, the, I wouldn't call them like levers of power. They kind of, their support structures. You have the neocons, the city of London, the left, and those are pretty much the factions of power outside of us. Because now apparently our ideas go a lot farther than anybody on our side really gives us.

This is how thing we're terrible at taking credit for our own victories. Like you have the smartest, wealthiest, most dynamic individuals in the country looking to our sphere for, I mean, for guidance. Like we are the, they're outsourcing their thinking. They've found people that they trust. right and they're like all right well give me the synopsis on x and we still act like we're losers like we still act like you know we we haven't gotten out of like we got beaten up so bad in 2017 2018 2018 2019 right under like the hard suppression we still go around twitter like we're lepers like our guy owns the thing now it's like we're still sleeping in the shed i pointed out i pointed

out on an old glory club live stream that like every time that Elon has in the past year or year and a half has had to you know like go to go to Auschwitz as soon as he's done with that the very first tweet is always something signaling to our side like he'll put out a tweet about like white replacement or something like that and and and i mentioned that and i said he's signaling to us and someone's like, oh, that's clown thinking. I'm like, no, you're a fucking loser. You're a loser. It's called politics.

Elon knows how to play the game and some people just aren't even fucking in the same. Same thing with Trump. What was Bill Clinton's specialty? Anybody that dealt with Bill Clinton said Bill Clinton would sit down and talk to you like you were the most interesting person in the world, like he was listening. And everybody thought after they went in to talk to Bill Clinton that Bill Clinton agreed with them and the Biltland was on their side. And now you look at what Trump's doing.

As soon as he got into power, he didn't want to fight with the neocons. Oh, yeah, sure. Come on stage. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. As soon as he wins the election, yeah, you guys aren't going to be, no, sorry. Do you think he forgets what John Bolton did to him? 100%.

Well, do you know what Mike Pump, when everybody's trying to tell me that Mike Pompeii. But maybe that Yahoo did to him. Yeah, I know. He was in the back of my mind, too. Yeah, I am from my little theory that, you know, I think I, you know, started like screaming about in the astral chat the day after it happened is that BB Net and Yahoo tried to kill Trump at Pennsylvania. And who was, who was, who were the people that people are pointing to now, Department

of Homeland Security? Right. They took over the secret service that day. All right. They had more DHS people than there were secret service people. All of the dedicated Secret Service people went over to go help with Mrs. You know, Madam President, Dr. Jill Biden. And it was all DHS people on the ground.

So what did Cynthia McKinney tell us about what DHS was? Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney on the House floor were famous for two things. Well, the tag team between the two of them were famous for two things, right? Cynthia said Israel did 9-11 in fact and she said that the I can't remember how she described them but basically the Zionists like the dual citizen class

right that were responsible that played a part in 9-11 we're trying to set up homeland security to basically embed them basically embed the neocons into every aspect of the intelligence apparatus, the military apparatus, and the law enforcement apparatus, so you couldn't tear them out. And DHS does that. If you look at DHS's organization

chart, they have offices in everything from the NSA to U.S. Marshals, to FBI, to CIA, to DIA, the defense intelligence, they're literally embedded everywhere, right? She was a hundred percent right. Department of Homeland Security was the same fucking guys that did Project Newman, the same dual citizens that gave you 9-11, right, Project New American Century guys, set up Department

Homeland Security to embed these, embed Zionists inside the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus with the hub so they can coordinate all these things. Before it was like, oh, we got to go talk to, you know, we got to go meet at the, wherever, the synagogue is Satan, wherever they hang out.

Right. sorry they you know then they would have to like meet and then they'd have to coordinate like all right so you tell your cousin who works at you know CIA and you tell your cut like no DHS gave them a hub they had an office now right now they whatever the central hub is is where the command structure is right is where the power is in any organization they've got a corporation look at you know government work you know look at the look at the thing that has spokes going into everything whatever has the most folks going out and other things

is the thing that has the power. And that's what DHS is. DHS was all over the fucking Trump assassination attempt and you know who was the only person that didn't call Trump after he got assassinated. Fucking president of Palestine.

Nobody even knows that motherfucker exists. He called Trump after he got it after the assassination that. Bibi Netanyahu did not. right anybody that's listening probably thinks this is fucking crazy just type into whatever search browser

you can even use the shitty ones like Google whatever Donald Trump the word quote Benjamin Netanyahu the very first thing that would pop up actually the first three or four articles

will be a quote from Trump he and finally it's finally Trump swearing on TV good luck like he never does that he never swears fucking Kamala Harris swears more than Donald Trump does fucking Joe Biden swears more than Donald Trump does

and Donald Trump on an interview with PBS 60 minutes said like the for for some reason the presenter of 60 minutes decides to ask a guy who's not present anymore what his relationship is with a foreign leader that currently is president which makes no sense but like what's your relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu

do da-da-da-da-da-da. His word, Trump's words, exactly. Fuck him. Fuck that guy. He stabbed me in the back. We had a deal. I did everything for Israel. And he stabbed me in the back. He was the first person. Like, we're talking like peak fraud. The day after the election, like, we still had mail-in ballots. It's like chaos was like nobody in America really knew who was president the day after 2020. But Benjamin Netanyahu called Joe Biden publicly, right? Because that basically is the signal. That's the endorsement. That this is the guy that we, the foreign country is recognizing as president.

He called Joe Biden first to congratulate him. right because hey whatever Ryan Dawson proves rather conclusively to anybody's paying attention there wasn't a Hunter Biden laptop there was three Hunter Biden laptops three right so we know Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump

got one where the other two go well according to Hunter Biden on video when he's in bed with his fucking brother's widow you know smoking crack well some Ukrainian hookers stole the other two in Las Vegas.

Where do you think those laptops ended up? Well, so you got your guy that you made a deal with. I mean, in that video you're talking about Hunter explicitly says, I have been caught in sexual blackmail. That is what he's happening. He literally says that in the video. Yes, he has. I forgot about that.

Yes, he does. He does say that. So who do you, who do you, if you're Benjamin and Yang, got your two different horses you can run on you got to deal with this guy you think you got a good relationship your son and you know his son-in-law is your mole you know like you got a good setup but you still have to be nice to him and it's a deal like it's two part like i got to do something for you got to do something for me or you have this guy whose entire life you can ruin named joe biden right you have evidence of his corruption like all of the whole family could go to jail along

with most of the people in Washington, which is good because now they're accomplices, and now they have to do this. And in this instance, unlike Donald Trump, you own the media. So that story, whatever, you know, that's going to get around. Right. So that's much more effective. You're going to back that horse. Because where is Benjamin Netanyahu with the time of the 2020 election?

Yeah. Part of the reason the election is going to prison is where he's at. That's where BB Netanyahu is. At the time of 2020 election, right, the criminal. proceeding against Benjamin Netanyahu is coming to an end. Everybody knows that the trial, that the Benjamin and Yahoo court case, right, the criminal case got put on hold when he got elected. What got put on hold? Particularly, the case is over. It was sentencing that got put on hold. sentencing. So that means this guy, if he steps out of power, because right now, because he just

basically let all those hostages die, because surprise, we actually don't care about the hostages, we just want a bunch of land and we want to, you know, we're going to, A, steal all of Gaza and the West Bank, then we're going to go start a bunch of wards with our neighbors, then we're going to get America to come and wipe out Lebanon and Iran in one fell swoop. And they, they, will make greater Israel for us. I did it. I'm the greatest. You can't be mad about all that criminal shit that I just got convicted

of and you don't want to send me to jail anymore, right? Or you could let all those hostages die and you can have a less than 11% approval rating. Benjamin and Yao is the most hated man in Israel right now. Lacoud has no constituency. Like Thomas and I talked briefly on

Pete's election live stream with the Old Glory Club. There is no native constituency for Lacude anymore. Benjamin Anjahus takes one step out of office and he's in prison. His son's a faggot that lives in Miami. He has no legacy. It's over with. Everything that he built will be torn down and he will be thrown in a box and forgotten about until he dies. Unless he starts a war, Donald Trump is a guy that you cannot let in the White House then. If Donald Trump

gets in the White House after you stabbed him in the back, you are not getting your war. And as Thomas laid out, the conflict in Ukraine, again, anybody that is listening, please go check out Thomas's and Pete's conversations

on the war in Syria and what the war in Syria is actually about. And what the conflict in Ukraine and Russia is actually about. Because Donald Trump's stopping the war in Ukraine tells you exactly what he's going to do with the war in Iran. He understands what the actual game is. So if he doesn't want war in Russia and Ukraine, he doesn't want war in Iran.

It's the same conflict. So that means Benjamin Netanyahu's in between Iraq and a hard place. He is fucked. And at the same time, I find it funny, which is why I agree with Pete. Pete said, you asked Pete to stack, rank the targets for you. Who does the right hit first? do we hit the neocons? Do we hit the finance people in the city of London?

Do we hit the left? In which order do we attack these people? And I agree with Pete's assessment. Has to be the neocons. 100%. What do they do? What did they do in 1916? Or sorry, in 1915.

What did they do in 1940? Right? How come we had the most powerful man in the United States. We had the chairman of GM, chairman of Ford, the DuPont family, the Morgan family, the Rockefeller family, the head of the Republican Party, Father Cochlin and all the Catholics. We had Huey P. Long and all the Southern Democrats. We had the chairman of the fucking Democratic Party and the former president. They're all on the same team. How do you break that up?

How do you stop that? A war. That's how you stop it. And that's the only thing that'll save them now is a war. The reason I grabbed a notepad where you guys were talking, because I wanted to make sure I could hit these all. Because the city of London, what Pete was talking about, that setup that they have,

that, you know, has they've basically been vampirizing the United States, you know, citizenry for 60 years to support. Literally, the American citizen is ground up into a fine paste mixed with a viscous fluid and turned into an oil to grease the wheels of global capitalism, globalism writ large. That's coming to an end. The sovereign debt collapse,

like, I'm sorry. What Pete was talking about with currencies, if a currency moves three cents in a year, that is a huge fucking deal. They don't lose a quarter of their value in six months. At the same time that the bond market's collapsing. They've basically been used,

using hypothesated fake money. I'm not going to go into how they do it. But they print a bunch of fake money through a bunch of fake debt offshore. Federal Reserve's not even in control this. Don't have any fucking say in it. And they use that debt to smush the futures contracts

and suppress the price of commodities. Right. Who produces the commodities? Commodity producing nations. That's what they do. All right. So you can basically thumb the whole third world down, extract all their resources with these fake dollars. That's breaking.

Right? The left, the left is in tatters. The left is trying to go be nice to us. So Pete is 100% right on that order of attack. And the reason that we're going to win is because when all those fucking Jews were like, yes, this is the media landscape. We control the media landscape. It is a landscape. It's territory. It's the most important territory. The digital landscape is the new media landscape. It is the high ground. It's the most important place. We control all the good territory now.

I agree. I agree. I got to get going. Pete, I'll give you the last word if you have a response. Please, I talked for way too long. No, it was good, though. I agree with it all. Yeah, I'm looking at an article from yesterday, and it says that the fallout over

Netanyahu sacking Galant means that Israel. Yeah, Israel is only projected to secure 24 seats. So basically in 120-seat Knesset, they're looking at just having 49 seats. If elections were held today, the opposition block is 61 seats.

I need to find out the opposition parties, by contrast, appear to be gaining momentum. The National Unity Party led by Bernie Gantz, yeah, by Benny Gantz. and you know, so Netanyahu's challenges the extremists, the religious Zionism

party, the even extremists, they appear to be struggling. So it appears that the quote unquote right in Israel is falling apart. And it's the best thing that can happen for

us. Because it takes war off the table and it also it's like a big fuck you to the city of London and it just it pushes Israel that much closer to becoming

just another gigantic global homogenous you know state where you know it's it's racist if we don't let these people and it's racist if we don't make them citizens

it's racist if we don't let them have the full rights of every Israeli. And that is what... Yeah, that is eventually what's going to be, I think it's going to be the downfall of Israel. Not that Israel will disappear, because we don't want Israel to disappear. We want them to become something else

because we want Jews to have some place to go when more people start noticing and noticing and noticing and noticing. and they're just going to not, whenever that happens, at least now they have a place to go. Yeah, well, the problem with that is they don't want to go there. Yaki points this out. He says Zionism is a huge sigh up because nobody fucking wants to go to Israel.

They want to come to America. And when they started fleeing Eastern Europe and all those places, they didn't go to Israel, they came to America. Well, that changed. that changed over the decades. A lot of people like to, a lot of Jews like to go to Israel. They like to have that out.

They want to have that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, as an out. He was talking specifically. What happens if you take it away? Then they stay and then they're going They're going to stay here. How do they behave? Right? Because David Sacks. I think Yaki was right about race. Not a lot of people want to talk about that.

That's a major whole other conversation. Yeah, but I mean, do you think David Sacks is thinking like a Jew? Do you think Howard Lutnik is thinking like a Jew? It's just food for thought that we can all think about because, I mean, they seem to be okay. David Sacks must know that if he gets his policy wishes, the state of Israel could not exist. There's a chance. It could not exist because he doesn't know all the intricacies that we're talking about, right? So all he knows is that they're at war with, literally they started a war with all of their neighbors.

All right. And that seven countries want to come kill him. And he's okay with the people that want to rush in and send U.S. people. The only people that, like, frankly, we are the only people that could save Israel. And the only people that would want that to happen, David Sachs drummed out of government. So, like, where is this guy's head at? well I don't want to arbitrarily cut the conversation off

but I got to get going this was far more fruitful than I expected because I didn't think we'd be able to get what's that book Hitler Democrat by Leon de Grohl it's rare a buddy of mine is doing Sonistot copies of it

it's um yeah yeah I know nothing about that book I know who Leon de Grell is so we got to stormy we got to a lot more than i expected us to we covered almost every point we wanted to but there's a lot more to talk about so i hope you guys are willing to come back and this was great absolutely yeah happy to have you on for the first time just uh just think no jewish kingdom has lasted more than 80 years but seven or six years now