The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Armenian Election Signals It's Done with Russia || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

Armenia has long depended on Russia for just about everything, from energy to security, and even broader economic integration. However, the weekend election results in Armenia reflect a rejection of p...ro-Russian politics and a desire to find a new path forward. This was likely to happen anyway, as Moscow has its hands full with everything else going on, but the big question remains: who can fill Russia's shoes? Not many Armenians will like the answer... Join the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/PeterZeihan

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Starting point is 00:00:39 every swing. Whether you're trying to lower your handicap or build an incredible simulator setup at home, Foresight is absolutely worth checking out. Go to foresightsports.com to learn more. Hey all, Peter Zine here coming to you from Colorado. Today we're going to talk about Armenia. Armenia is one of the former Soviet republics that is in the South Caucasus, sandwiched in a little pocket between Azerbaijan and Turkey, east and west, and north and south, former Soviet Republic of Georgia, not Atlanta, and Iran. It's a difficult position to be in. There's only 4 million people now, and the population has been hemorrhaging ever since the Cold War ended. It's a little state that has been completely dependent on security guarantees granted by the Russians. And in fact, in a series of conflicts with Azerbaijan, if it wasn't for those Russian security guarantees,
Starting point is 00:01:27 it's, Armenia would have ceased to exist a long time ago. But as much as we talk about drones in the Ukraine context, what a lot of people forget is that the first real wave of these new generation of drones that are changing warfare were used between Armenia and Azerbaijan, with the Azerbaijani's using a lot of Turkish weapons and basically completely obliterating the Armenian Air Force, its tank forces, and it's, artillery in a one-month war that happened all the way wet back in 2020, I believe. Since then, Armenia has panicked is probably the best word for it. They're landlocked, they don't have their own energy, most of their electricity comes from a single
Starting point is 00:02:09 nuclear power plant, the fuel is provided by Russia, and most of their security comes from a Russian base as well. Well, with the Ukraine war and all these new drones, Armenia's position has gone from untenable to something flirting with state collapse. And so there is a recognition among the political elite of Armenia that something's got to change and that Russia can't be part of the solution because if Russia was going to be part of the solution, they would be doing more.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But they're completely consumed with the Ukraine war. And especially today, now that the Russians are basically watching their entire frontline collapse in real time, there is not going to be any help for Armenia. So today is the 8th of June, and we had election. over the weekend, the ruling party, Civic Armenia, ruled by a guy by the name of Pashinen, got about 50% of the votes,
Starting point is 00:03:00 swamped the other parties. The Russians have been using their old playbook that they have used in Ukraine and in Georgia and the United States and in Germany and the United Kingdom everywhere to try to discredit their foes and boost their chosen proxies. And it's kind of funny, with the exception of the United States, it really hasn't worked anywhere,
Starting point is 00:03:19 but it's generated so much backlash from the non-Russian forces that people really turned out in numbers. Anyway, the guy, the party who are trying to find a new path, one decisively, they'll have an absolute majority in the parliament. And the question now is what's next. There is no good path. Let's start with that. The Armenian mindset globally is defined by the Turkish genocide during the end times of World War I. when hundreds of thousands, some people would say a million or two, Armenians were killed in Turkish territory,
Starting point is 00:03:57 and that singular memory is seared into the brains of all the survivors and their descendants. And so the idea of having any sort of long-term deal with Turkey is something that is really just allergetically rejected. But now that the Russians are no longer part of any possibility, it's something that they have to consider. You've got the Azamajani's on the east, which are allied with the Turks, get their weapons from the Turks, coordinate with the Turks from the Armenian point of view,
Starting point is 00:04:23 they're just as bad to the south of you have Iran, which has always been a good window on the world, but the recent degradation in relations between the United States and Iran means that Iran is no longer a viable option for goods coming in and out, and that just leaves Georgia to the north, which is in the process of sliding into authoritarianism. I guess that is another place where Russian misinformation has worked, and it's not reliable either.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So really, the bottom line is either they cooperate, with the Turks to a degree or they have nothing. So we do have real talks going on among Yerevan, Baku, and Ankara about what is next. And this has to involve some sort of trade quarter. It has to involve some sort of Azerbaijan energy so the Armenians can keep the light on. The Trump administration has gotten involved with a handshake deal. J.D. Vance was there a few months ago, basically saying that we will provide nuclear fuel to your facility. It's not clear if that is an above board or possible outcome, because this is a nuclear power plant that is ancient and decrepit, and it's not clear that the Americans can even make fuel rods that will fit into it.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But it's at least the start of a place to talk. And now that we've had the vote, we're going to see if this old slash new government can actually take concrete steps. But anything that does not involve a formal deal with Turkey is something that's not going to go anywhere. So they're going to have to take the hardest step first. And screaming in the background, you have the Armenian diaspora, which has always been very, very gung-ho when it's Armenian lives and Armenia that are a threat, as opposed to their own. And of course, the Russians looking to sabotage this at every opportunity.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I don't mean to suggest that the Russians haven't taken a hit in global and regional affairs in the last couple of years. They obviously have, but I would not count them out when it comes to the ability to sabotage political deals. that is something they are very, very good at. So this election is really the start of a very difficult process, and we're not going to see it wrapped up this year.

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