The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Building the Anti-Russian Alliance || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

Between geographical barriers, neutral countries, and bloody history, the European space has historically been disconnected. Now that central and western Europe is forming a coalition against the Russ...ians...Putin should be shaking in his boots.Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/building-the-anti-russian-alliance

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone. Peter Zion here coming to you from Doubtful Sound in New Zealand's Fiordland National Park. Anyway, a lot of things have gone down in the Ukraine space politically, not so much militarily. And I thought it was worth kind of looking at what the big picture is. And to understand where we're going forward, we have to go back. If you go to the world before 1945, the age of European competition, you had shifting alliances because the geography really prevented the area from coalescing into a single entity. So on your northern Europe, plain and plain, you've got the French, the Dutch, the Belgians, the Poles, and the Germans, who if there was ever going to be a zone where someone controlled everything would be them. And so most chapters of history have been one of those powers trying to assert control over the others.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You've got Scandinavian in the north with fjords and peninsulas and islands. So always fiercely independent and very navelly oriented compared to everyone else. In the south, you've got a more occluded close line with very few navigable rivers of any type. And so you get regional powers who are relatively isolated from the others, but who could really punch above their weight economically because they're all trade-oriented, whether that's in Spain or Portugal or Italy or the Balkans. Makes for a bit of a mess. And so for most of the half-millia leading up to 1945,
Starting point is 00:01:18 it was kind of a war of all-against-all with shipping alliances here and there, always changing texture, always changing sides. Then the Americans came in in World War II, and the Soviets rose during World War II, become major powers who injected themselves into this competition, and kind of changed the rules of the game. Suddenly, you had these two outside-ish powers who were determining all the major decisions, and we kind of forgot that Europe was the most blood-soaked part of the planet until that point. Now, with 1990 and the end of the Cold War, the Europeans have been living in a vacation from history, where the security paradigms of the Cold War exist without the security threat of the Cold War.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You combine that with the late globalization period and a time when pretty much all of the world was open for business, and you got a very different sort of environment economically and especially politically. Well, the Russians now are kind of climbing back, clawing out of their post-Soviet whole, and attempting to reassert themselves as a major regional power. Whether you believe they're doing this out of stupid reasons or same security reasons, doesn't really matter. They're trying to change the nature of the system for their own long-term benefit, and that is forcing countries to do something that they haven't had to do for decades. Take a side, take a position, and form an alliance to counter the Russians.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Now, from the Russian point of view, it's all about the Americans all the time. Turn over here, look at this view. It's all about the Americans all the time, and everything that's going wrong for the Russians can be laid at the American's feet. But that is to completely ignore the history of Europe, which is, that of a series of independent and semi-independent primary and secondary powers. So what is kind of shaken out this week? Well, first and most importantly, the German leopard tanks, mainline battle tanks, have finally reached the war.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And so now the Germans have fallen to this position of, we don't want to be in a leadership position. We know what that has looked like in the past. We understand why everyone was nervous about it. Well, we don't have a choice. We are the largest economic power in the northern European plane, the largest economic power in Europe. And historically speaking, we have also been the most powerful military force.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We have to take a leadership position because if we don't, this is all going to fall apart and we will be facing the Russians on the plains of Poland. And we know exactly where that leads. And we don't want that. This has a lot of depth because the Dutch, also on the northern European plane, are into the hilt, so are the polls. The French are contributing in a way we haven't seen the French contribute to multinational operations since World War II, and even further back, technically off the plane, places like Spain and Portugal,
Starting point is 00:04:00 Portugal tanks arrived with the German ones and the Spanish ones will be there within a month. So everyone in that kind of strip of what you think of as core Europe is already fully committed and back in the game. Scandinavia is a little bit different. Here you've got mostly independent city states that masquerade as countries, and then Sweden, which has kind of been out of the game for three centuries. By the end of next week, Turkey will have voted on whether or not to let the Finns into NATO, and a vote on Sweden will probably go within a couple of months of that. And that means that these two traditionally neutral powers are going to be taking a leadership position in security policy in Europe, and the only issue they care about are the Russians.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Now, the Swedes have been out of the game for three centuries after a massive military defeat in what is today's Ukraine. And it's in the aftermath of World War II, the Finns were forced into a degree of neutrality where they could chart their own economic course, but on any sort of security decision-making, the Soviets had full veto power. Well, that is now gone. And these two countries that have very strong militaries relative to their size economically or in terms of population, all of a sudden are the horror-bangers of the apocalypse when it comes to the Russian point of view of how European security should go.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because they are extraordinarily anti-Russian. Every security question that they have ever faced has been framed in the context of what do we do the day of the Russians invade. Everything else is around that. And now they're about to be part of the decision-making architecture. That also means that the Turks are coming in from the cold. They've been trying to kind of have their cake and eat it too. But in the last few weeks, they've joined the sanctions regime.
Starting point is 00:05:44 relatively forthrightly and are now no longer an avenue that the Russians can use to evade the sanctions regime, especially when it comes to materials import, things like semiconductors. And then finally, of course, there's the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom was always going to be anti-Russian because it's an naval power on an island, and any time it looks like a land power in Europe is going to become more potent, they get a little nervous and they want to make sure that the land powers are busy with land issues so they can't float navies that can challenge London. Well, King Charles, was just coronated and his first full state visit is to Germany. If there are two countries in the European space that tend to be on opposite sides of all economic and security questions,
Starting point is 00:06:25 it's the United Kingdom and its Germany. And the fact that they're within sight of one another is something that should turn anyone on the opposite side of that axis to turn the blood cold. So what we're seeing here for the first time, not in decades, but in centuries, is everyone in Central and Western Europe at the same time coming together to form a broad coalition against a single power. We haven't had that since Napoleon. If you want to get technical,
Starting point is 00:06:55 we haven't had that since the Treaty of Westphalia. And the Americans, while they are a part of all of this, are not steering this party of the equation. This is the Europeans doing what makes sense to the Europeans. And if I were the Russians, I'd be very very, concerned about that.

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